January 11, 2012
— Ace Barbour pardoned a lot of people -- 208, many criminals of the worst sort -- and caught red Mississippi by surprise. One thing you generally count on Republican governors for is keeping murderers behind bars.
One snag, though: Part of the Mississippi Constitution specifies that all pardons must follow a 30 day period of notice, for public complaint and comment. Mississippi's AG says he can find no such notice, so the pardons are void, at least for now.
I wonder what happened here? Maybe people just didn't notice this part of the constitution and it's been ignored in practice for one hundred years? And now, in a frenzy to find some basis to challenge Barbour on the pardons, it's now found, hiding in plain sight?
Interesting. Check out this 8pm Update:
Mississippi Circuit Judge Tomie Green has temporarily blocked the release of 21 inmates who'd been given pardons or medical release by Republican Haley Barbour in one of his final acts as governor.
Thanks to @slublog.
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Posted by: Rmoney Voter - You All Will Be Assimulated at January 11, 2012 05:39 PM (7MFxV)
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 11, 2012 05:39 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: huerfano at January 11, 2012 05:40 PM (lXi+d)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 11, 2012 05:41 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Call me Ishmael at January 11, 2012 05:42 PM (kkQ6Q)
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 11, 2012 05:42 PM (rCEvh)
Posted by: El Zopilote at January 11, 2012 05:44 PM (U4wlZ)
Posted by: AoSHQ Book Club Member at January 11, 2012 05:44 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: eman at January 11, 2012 05:44 PM (dWuuB)
Posted by: Dave R. at January 11, 2012 05:44 PM (bAsJQ)
Posted by: El Zopilote at January 11, 2012 09:44 PM (U4wlZ)
Isn't that Merck's new entry in the ED drug market?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 11, 2012 05:45 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Greg at January 11, 2012 05:46 PM (2Y56z)
Posted by: Meggie Mac at January 11, 2012 05:46 PM (OO+Nq)
Posted by: maddogg at January 11, 2012 05:46 PM (LVY/f)
Posted by: Jimbo at January 11, 2012 05:47 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 11, 2012 05:48 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: El Zopilote at January 11, 2012 09:44 PM (U4wlZ)
Isn't that Merck's new entry in the ED drug market?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 11, 2012 09:45 PM (nEUpB)
As long as it doesn't prevent some kind of STD, it should be golden.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 11, 2012 05:48 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: palerider at January 11, 2012 05:49 PM (dkExz)
Hey - I'm a firm believer in capitalism, thanks for the recognition!
Posted by: El Zopilote at January 11, 2012 05:50 PM (U4wlZ)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 11, 2012 05:50 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 11, 2012 05:53 PM (niZvt)
Scarborough could use him on his staff...
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 11, 2012 09:53 PM (niZvt)
Delivered, as promised, on time. Not funny, but punctual. I'd pick on you more, but the Czechs have given us Pilsner, the 1968 revolution, and Ceska Zbrovka.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 11, 2012 06:00 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: probably banned now at January 11, 2012 06:04 PM (aPkU9)
Posted by: dome sope at January 11, 2012 06:05 PM (+kznc)
Updated 8:40 p.m. ET: In response to criticsm about the pardons, former Gov. Haley Barbour released as statment from his office Wednesday evening that said 189 of the 215 people pardoned were already out of prison.
"My decision about clemency was based upon the recommendation of the Parole Board in more than 90 percent of the cases," the statement said.
The statement, reported by WTVA of Tupelo, went on to say 13 of the 26 inmates released from custody cost the state a lot of money due to their medical expenses and can be returned to custody if they commit another crime.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 11, 2012 06:07 PM (5atBc)
Posted by: Tjexcite at January 11, 2012 06:08 PM (sk1Ym)
Posted by: Serious Cat at January 11, 2012 06:08 PM (2YIVk)
Posted by: I am the walrus, goo-goo-ga-joo at January 11, 2012 06:09 PM (ybkwK)
Posted by: t-bird at January 11, 2012 06:11 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: palerider at January 11, 2012 06:15 PM (dkExz)
Has anyone said exactly how DOOMed we are in the past hour?
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 11, 2012 06:17 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: chas at January 11, 2012 06:18 PM (xAq1C)
Posted by: t-bird at January 11, 2012 06:19 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Uncle Wang's Pancake House & Boob Emporium at January 11, 2012 06:22 PM (jiwQf)
Posted by: mycherrysmores at January 11, 2012 06:34 PM (khS/6)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 11, 2012 06:36 PM (QcFbt)
I'm from the Magnolia State, and guys, this is huge down here. Apparently because it's a tradition among outgoing governors to pardon trustys who work at the Governor's Mansion, Barbour overlooked some pretty....egregious....offenses. One of his last pardons from the Mansion was a charming individual who stalked his estranged wife, then burst into the home of a family friend where she was staying to have some degree of protection against her hubby. Once there, the future-pardon recipient ignited some fireworks to cover up the sounds of the shots her fired, one of them into the head of his wife at point-blank range as she held their six-month old child, the other into the head of the family friend. He left their child there on the floor in a pool of his mother's blood. The wife's family and that of the friend have gone public with their fear about what this gentleman might decide to do when he's a free man again.
The Clarion Ledger has a comprehensive list of all 200-plus pardons, and it's pretty appalling - Brett Favre's brother is on there, being given a pass for vehicular homicide, as is the wife of a prominent Jackson entrepreneur for a similar offense. Everyone's wondering - influence, maybe considerations offered? The shocking thing is that it's completely out of touch with Barbour's public image here, which until this moment has been overwhelmingly positive. He was the "Katrina Governor," the state exec that handled it right, the standard-bearer of the G.O.P.'s return to power in this state after a century in the wilderness. This is an inexplicable move on his part to have, as Marshall Ramsey put it yesterday, "opened the doors on all the cages" before he left office.
Posted by: A. Pendragon at January 11, 2012 06:37 PM (XDdB5)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2012 06:45 PM (qqYb/)
Posted by: LASue at January 11, 2012 06:48 PM (hrr4h)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2012 06:50 PM (qqYb/)
Posted by: Uncle Wang's Pancake House & Boob Emporium at January 11, 2012 06:51 PM (jiwQf)
My cynical instinct is that he's hiding a payoff among the mass pardons.
Hardly cynical. A large percentage Clinton's pardons were bought. Selling pardons is a time honored practice.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 11, 2012 06:52 PM (WCBz9)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2012 06:55 PM (qqYb/)
Posted by: Anabolic State at January 11, 2012 06:55 PM (e1pl5)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2012 06:58 PM (qqYb/)
Amish - it isn't merely a lot of pardons, it's more pardons than any other Mississippi Governor, Democratic or Republican, has issued in the last half-century, if not indeed further back. While thirteen of the recipients of pardons or clemency may have been sick and could represent a savings to the state in cost-care (although that's doubtful - most of them are impoverished and the taxpayers will likely still be picking up the bill), that doesn't appear to hold true for the remainder of the 200-plus. Plus, there are way, way more than 13 of the pardons that are "horror cases." The fellow I referred to above now has an entire community in fear, and similar stories are coming out from other families.
AG Hood is undoubtedly seeing a chance for some political point-scoring here, but his actions do reflect the feelingss of a significant number of Mississippians. We're almost in a state of shock - Haley Barbour let a guy go like the one I described above, who shot his wife at point-blank range as she held their infant child, then departed, leaving that same child pooled in his mother's blood, and we can't figure out what he was thinking. Not that he's giving anyone a chance to know, either - Barbour dodged questions about the pardons at yesterdays gubernatorial inauguration, and his office has been stonewalling the media since last weekend on this question.
Posted by: A. Pendragon at January 11, 2012 06:59 PM (XDdB5)
Amended to add - didn't see it earlier:
A trusty is a convict selected from the state penal system to perform work outside the prison walls, sometimes for an extended period - they have to have solid records of good conduct and to be rated as responsible and trust-worthy by penal officials. It's an archaic term that Mississippi hangs onto for some reason - probably for the same reason that we still elect a constable for each county, and that the person who certifies causes of death is an official with the elaborate title of Coroner-Ranger, something right out of medieval English jurisprudence.
It became a standard practice during the tail end of the nineteenth century and the onset of the twentieth to assign some trustys to the Governor's Mansion, to act as unpaid staff, and as Uncle Wang pointed out above, it's often been seen as a path to some sort of clemency, if not pardon, but in times past it hasn't been folks like the father of the year I described above.
Posted by: A. Pendragon at January 11, 2012 07:08 PM (XDdB5)
Posted by: Ken Royall at January 11, 2012 07:08 PM (9zzk+)
Posted by: Haley Barbour in Chief at January 11, 2012 07:26 PM (E/4T5)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 11, 2012 07:35 PM (lTl0z)
Posted by: mycherrysmores at January 11, 2012 07:55 PM (khS/6)
Mississippi does require any inmate seeking a pardon publish a public notice near the location of the crime, and some might not have done this.
Posted by: Adjoran at January 11, 2012 08:14 PM (VfmLu)
One candidate is winning overwhelmingly with 50.82% of the vote.
Posted by: hey at January 11, 2012 08:22 PM (oZfic)
I'm disappointed. I googled Ceska Zbrovka thinking it was the name of a hottie Czech model.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 11, 2012 08:23 PM (SbxFW)
Posted by: Max Power at January 11, 2012 08:40 PM (+wxCD)
Posted by: Max Power at January 11, 2012 08:43 PM (+wxCD)
I'm disappointed. I googled Ceska Zbrovka thinking it was the name of a hottie Czech model.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 12, 2012 12:23 AM (SbxFW)
Me too. I guess great moron minds think alike.
Posted by: Have Blue at January 11, 2012 08:54 PM (IKTC8)
Posted by: NortonPete at January 11, 2012 09:35 PM (8zxoH)
One candidate is winning overwhelmingly with 50.82% of the vote.
Well now he is managing to fall in that poll too. Consistency.
Posted by: RioBravo at January 12, 2012 06:02 AM (eEfYn)
Posted by: deepred at January 12, 2012 06:13 AM (2aETb)
"My decision about clemency was based upon the recommendation of the Parole Board in more than 90 percent of the cases," and tremendous cash-money payouts just in time for retirement for the remaining 10%.
FIFHim.
Posted by: Entropy at January 12, 2012 08:30 AM (Ci0JG)
This is probably nothing compared to what will happen if pres. B.O. finds himself a lame duck this fall.
I have said before and will say again, if Obama loses in November, we must use any of the 15 excuses we have (non-recess recess appointments?) to impeach him in late November.
Or else. Seriously. We should be afraid.
Posted by: Entropy at January 12, 2012 08:31 AM (Ci0JG)
Czechs have given us Pilsner, the 1968 revolution, and Ceska Zbrovka
Koprova.
Boiled beef in a dill sauce, with sweet cabbage and potato dumplings.
Posted by: Entropy at January 12, 2012 08:33 AM (Ci0JG)
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Unless he decided to get started a little early in the Ray Blanton and Bill Clinton model. Do the Yankee governors also sell pardons, or do they only do that south of the Mason-Dixon line?
Posted by: Dewey at January 12, 2012 11:39 AM (YTJQp)
Posted by: BulletPeople at January 14, 2012 11:59 AM (GcX2V)
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