April 09, 2012
— Ace This isn't new. It's from Romney's speech after his win in Wisconsin. But I wanted to call attention to it.
Maybe Mitt Romney does speak conservatism "as a second language," but he is trying to gain fluency.
he president, Romney said, has “spent the last four years laying the foundation for a new government-centered society.”“Government-centered society” isn’t the most felicitous phrase, nor the most memorable sound-bite. But that may be for the best. What it lacks in mellifluousness, it makes up for in deadly accuracy.
Every major initiative of the Obama presidency has placed the government at the center of the policy the president wishes to effect and the change he wishes to see. Its policies have not necessarily put government in charge, or given government total control; but they have made government a dominating presence.
Video below. It's pretty good. If you want the meat of it, listen from 1:40 to 3:00 (or even up to 6:00). Although he continues to avoid the word "socialism," he speaks of Obama's vision being to doom the economy such that the government must then do more, and says we know where that leads: Look at Europe.
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Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 09, 2012 12:16 PM (vHUZA)
Blood pressure.
Posted by: eleven at April 09, 2012 12:17 PM (KXm42)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 12:17 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Roy at April 09, 2012 12:18 PM (VndSC)
Obama is white wine: Maybe good for a while, but soon turns to vinegar
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, neither Morg nor I-Morg at April 09, 2012 12:19 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 09, 2012 12:19 PM (IhUxK)
Posted by: lorien1973 at April 09, 2012 12:20 PM (0tkqC)
Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 09, 2012 12:20 PM (IhUxK)
Posted by: EC at April 09, 2012 12:20 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 09, 2012 12:20 PM (JEpGb)
maybe Romney is a Jack Mormon..................
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, neither Morg nor I-Morg at April 09, 2012 12:21 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 09, 2012 12:21 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 12:22 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 09, 2012 12:22 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 09, 2012 12:22 PM (IhUxK)
Mitt: Listen to me. Don't fall into the JEF's traps about contraception, stealing lady parts, etc. If the question does NOT pertain to the economy or national defense, you must blow it off as irrelevant and bring the focus back to those two issues. Keep hammering on him.
Got it?
Posted by: real joe at April 09, 2012 12:22 PM (KDLYC)
I know that SCOAMT wants a "government-centric society."
I'm just not completely sure Romney doesn't.
And, before anyone jumps all over me- yes, I'm certain (well, relatively so) that Romney will be parsecs better than Obama. I'm just not sure his solutions will be sufficiently radical to fix the problems we've got.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 12:22 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 09, 2012 12:23 PM (M0NzJ)
Posted by: Lou Ferrigno at April 09, 2012 12:23 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Roy at April 09, 2012 12:23 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: maddogg at April 09, 2012 12:24 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Soona at April 09, 2012 12:25 PM (2Z3Hb)
Posted by: The Jackhole at April 09, 2012 12:25 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Come And Take It at April 09, 2012 12:26 PM (8Yc/9)
I put Shockwave back into his cage. He's been... ornery since he lost his hand, IYKWIMAITYD.
Also, you will all be my slaves blah blah blah and I need a new speechwriter.
Posted by: Megatron at April 09, 2012 12:26 PM (zgHLA)
Posted by: Not Really Shockwave at April 09, 2012 12:26 PM (cYMja)
Posted by: Larry O'Donnell at April 09, 2012 12:27 PM (QTVh2)
Government-controlled.
Keep trying, Mittens. You're getting there. Slowly.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2012 12:27 PM (X3lox)
This clears the way for foreclosures, which had been held up in 2011, to go ahead at a rate far exceeding that of 2010.
2012 will be the "Year of the Foreclosure"
Posted by: Steve Wozniak at April 09, 2012 12:27 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 09, 2012 04:23 PM (M0NzJ)
YES !! As soon as he finishes his meat!
Posted by: Shockwave's Mom at April 09, 2012 12:27 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: The Mega Independent
Alex Trebek is a conservative.
Posted by: mpfs at April 09, 2012 12:28 PM (iYbLN)
Mitt Romney is by the far best Presidential option. He has done in the real world what every other candidate claims that they might be able to maybe do in some possible future political environment.
I also believe that he posseses high character, superior intelligence, and in his own way, a natural persuaviness.
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 09, 2012 12:28 PM (HethX)
Posted by: RomneyBot since 2007 at April 09, 2012 12:29 PM (cYMja)
The more I listen, the more good things I hear. Problem is, I don't know if he is trying to hide conservative ideas in non-threatening phrases to grab independents, or slipping in conservative code words to hang on to the base.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 09, 2012 12:29 PM (HLFzM)
Damn, that made me feel better.
Posted by: Not an Artist at April 09, 2012 12:30 PM (uRumV)
Posted by: Entropy at April 09, 2012 12:30 PM (TULs6)
That's because odds were in favor that the "stop me when you've heard something you like" candidate would eventually get around to saying something that appealed to you.
This is precisely why I don't like him.
Posted by: Sgt. York at April 09, 2012 12:30 PM (vyS+v)
Doesn't matter to me. All that matters is that he wins.
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 12:31 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 04:22 PM (8y9MW)
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The massive gears in the government machine will be brought to a halt slowly, then slowly reversed. I don't think anyone, no matter how conservative we would have liked, could make it stop on a dime.
Correcting what the SCOAMT has layed asunder may take more than 4-8 years. I think once a new administration takes over will we learn the extent of the damage Baraka's regime has done.
Posted by: Soona at April 09, 2012 12:31 PM (2Z3Hb)
Posted by: Entropy at April 09, 2012 12:31 PM (TULs6)
Seriously, Ace, how much more garbage do I have to buy through your Amazon portal before we're once again allowed basic punctuation and spacing?
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 09, 2012 12:31 PM (HethX)
I want to fawn the Federal Government. I will crush it. Its entrails will be its extrails... Pain. Great pain...
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) On a different meme at April 09, 2012 12:31 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: RomneyBot since 2007 at April 09, 2012 12:32 PM (cYMja)
Powerful funny right there.
>>>Something about the "S" word that causes spontaneous combustion of RINO hair.
The establishment think that accusing O of being a S is hyperbolic (Actually calling him a communist would be accurate, but hey, who keeps these ideologies straight anymore?) and turns off moderates, so they are looking for a way to call him a euro-zone socialist (and therefore forecast European style economic grief to the US should we keep O) without actually using the S word.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 09, 2012 12:32 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Entropy at April 09, 2012 12:32 PM (TULs6)
Posted by: dagny at April 09, 2012 12:32 PM (CMM9V)
Posted by: Steve Wozniak at April 09, 2012 12:32 PM (e8kgV)
Four more years would be a disaster for the Republic.
Posted by: mpfs at April 09, 2012 12:33 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Roy at April 09, 2012 04:18 PM (VndSC)
You're going to have to soak that overnight. Add a tablespoon of Oxyclean.
Posted by: dagny at April 09, 2012 12:33 PM (CMM9V)
There was a chance of actually doing that starting right after the 2010 elections ... but the GOP stomped that possibility to death within weeks. They're a rough bunch when they are fending off Constitutional fanboys ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2012 12:34 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 09, 2012 12:34 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: ScottyE_FL at April 09, 2012 12:34 PM (4/cQ8)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 09, 2012 04:32 PM (0q2P7)
My Liberal wife who likes Obama calls him a Socialist. A good thing in her eyes!
Posted by: Pyrocles at April 09, 2012 12:34 PM (cv5Iw)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 09, 2012 12:35 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: mpfs at April 09, 2012 04:33 PM (iYbLN)
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Four more years, and there wouldn't be a Republic. I'm sure the commerce clause can be stretched to cover voting as well.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 09, 2012 12:35 PM (HLFzM)
Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 09, 2012 12:36 PM (IhUxK)
Posted by: ace at April 09, 2012 12:36 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 09, 2012 12:36 PM (Af3Wg)
Posted by: dagny is now smarter at April 09, 2012 12:37 PM (CMM9V)
Slowly but surely the real world is dawning on them.
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 09, 2012 12:37 PM (HethX)
Well how did you get to your polling place without affecting commerce? Knowing that even if you didn't engage in commerce your decision not to affected commerce.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 09, 2012 12:37 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: mpfs at April 09, 2012 12:37 PM (iYbLN)
Can't pay your mortgage? GTFO!
Sheesh..
Making me pay might be the last straw.
Posted by: sickinmass at April 09, 2012 12:38 PM (bcNec)
Posted by: ace at April 09, 2012 12:38 PM (nj1bB)
“Government-centered society” isn’t the most felicitous phrase, nor the most memorable sound-bite
How is that not memorable? It's short, it's accurate and it's pretty damn self-explanatory.
Posted by: Putin. Vladimir Putin. at April 09, 2012 12:38 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 12:38 PM (VtjlW)
Wisconsin--->tossup Pennsylvania--->tossup New Hampshire--->tossup Colorado--->tossup Michigan--->tossup
Posted by: CAC at April 09, 2012 12:40 PM (mKQHa)
Posted by: dagny is now smarter at April 09, 2012 12:40 PM (CMM9V)
Posted by: Mr_Write at April 09, 2012 12:40 PM (VJUQK)
Posted by: Mike James at April 09, 2012 12:40 PM (spLGA)
Obama must be evicted from the White House. Romney is the only person in America in a position to do that. We have to get this done.
That is all.
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 12:41 PM (P6QsQ)
Dude he is srsly still a RINO. He just compares favorably with the remaining of the field.
Just because people prefer the Pinto over the Gremlin doesn't suddenly make the Pinto a great car.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 09, 2012 12:41 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: ace at April 09, 2012 12:41 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 09, 2012 12:41 PM (IhUxK)
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The word has now been used so often that it sounds like a gotcha word and has lost its punch. It's lost it's power while many still have no friggin clue what it actually means. Romney, instead, is defining it at its core. That, in my mind, is far more important to educating and appealing to those who want the government to leave them the hell alone.
To the idealist, the word "socialism" means "fairness".
I think it is smart to continue to avoid the word.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 09, 2012 12:41 PM (piMMO)
I see no teleprompter and if he has notes, he never looks at them. So he did this entire speech without assistance.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 09, 2012 12:41 PM (9t6jP)
I'm just not sure his solutions will be sufficiently radical to fix the problems we've got.
I'm certain they won't be.* But I'd rather fight a holding action than surrender.
*Mostly certain. Romney's background as a numbers guy and his friendship with Ryan given me some hope that he's going to be the first President since Eisenhower who will take budgeting seriously.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at April 09, 2012 12:41 PM (epBek)
Posted by: maddogg at April 09, 2012 12:42 PM (OlN4e)
You're right, it doesn't but I will drive the Pinto anyway.
Posted by: mpfs at April 09, 2012 12:42 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 09, 2012 12:42 PM (HLFzM)
[font color="purple"]"Romney trailed Obama amongst independents by 21 points in our January poll, now leads the President by 2."[/font]
-EPIC/MRC April poll of Michigan.
Romney was leading narrowly over the President, then collapsed under him during the primary, and is rebounding. I am not ready to track it regularly with the other 10 swing states but if that trend continues Obama's little firewall is collapsing, regardless whether/not he takes VA.
Posted by: CAC at April 09, 2012 12:43 PM (mKQHa)
Not true. I want to win.
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 12:43 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2012 12:43 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 09, 2012 12:44 PM (IhUxK)
Posted by: CAC at April 09, 2012 04:40 PM (mKQHa)
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I might start paying attention to these polls in October. Any further out, they're just cooking the stats to make the nightly news.
Posted by: Soona at April 09, 2012 12:44 PM (2Z3Hb)
Posted by: dagny is now smarter at April 09, 2012 12:44 PM (CMM9V)
Under Florida law, only first-degree murder cases require the use of grand juries.
does anyone know if this this true?
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2012 12:45 PM (TomZ9)
Doubt it...the LSM is going to the mat for Obama this election, and they are the ones that mostly control "the numbers" Still, we can always hope.
Posted by: Mr_Write at April 09, 2012 12:45 PM (VJUQK)
Just an FYI, but Gingrich had been saying "Government Centered Society" since the mid 1980's.
Posted by: ScottyE_FL at April 09, 2012 04:34 PM (4/cQ
Which is why this speech is just meh. There has to be a better way to say this. A shorter way. This isn't an election for Chairman of the local Rotary club.
Posted by: Rocks at April 09, 2012 12:45 PM (Q1lie)
At this point a hard boiled egg could beat Biden in a debate. The neurons in his brain misfire constantly. Biden is one aneurysm away from a toe tag.
Posted by: mpfs at April 09, 2012 12:45 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 09, 2012 12:45 PM (IhUxK)
By the way, Mitt had me at "Looks like he's going to wrap up the nomination."
Posted by: Samuel Adams at April 09, 2012 12:46 PM (vhT+/)
Yeah and back when you didn't have them boo-boos we got Medicare D, and a nice push toward collapse. The Republican party NEEDED (And still needs in my mind, though we can't afford to do so right now) a swift kick in the junk for their squishy candidates and progressive lite policies. The only one I regret of the bunch is CO.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 09, 2012 12:46 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: maddogg at April 09, 2012 12:46 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 09, 2012 12:46 PM (IhUxK)
So he is reading from a sheet with the major themes, while engaging the audience. The words are his own, while the themes are decided by his campaign (not saying he doesn't have major input into those themes).
I do a lot of public speaking and also watch a lot of public speaking. That is a very good technical delivery. I think this extended campaign has really helped him.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 09, 2012 12:47 PM (9t6jP)
****
I'd rather see Rand up againt Biden.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 09, 2012 12:48 PM (piMMO)
The media set off miniture rockets to explode some GM trucks. That didn't make them worse than gremlins but everyone thought so.
Posted by: dagny is now smarter at April 09, 2012 12:49 PM (CMM9V)
Posted by: Rocks at April 09, 2012 04:45 PM (Q1lie)
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Maybe European. Better yet, Russian.
Posted by: Soona at April 09, 2012 12:49 PM (2Z3Hb)
Yes and the Gremlin was famous for imitating a beer can when in an accident.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 09, 2012 12:49 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 09, 2012 04:48 PM
I'm holding out for Paul Ryan. I think Biden would lose bowel control.
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 12:50 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: mpfs at April 09, 2012 12:50 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: rectal exam at April 09, 2012 04:46 PM (O7ksG)
I hope everyone gets into Mormon stuff. Especially the polygamy angle. Given that we have the first Occupier of the White House to have been the direct product of a polygamous family, unlike Mittens, this is a perfectly appropriate line of inquiry.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2012 12:50 PM (X3lox)
News reports have said a noted Colombian designer is making a series of guayaberas for Obama to wear at the summit of the Americas in Cartagena, April 14-15.
Castro, whose brother Raul formally succeeded him as president in 2008, offered a history lesson on the origins of the light, tropical shirt, asserting that it was created in an area of Cuba that is watered by the Yayabo River.
“That’s why they were originally called yayaberas,” he wrote in an article published in the Cuban press.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 09, 2012 12:50 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at April 09, 2012 12:50 PM (epBek)
Actually, I don't think there is. "Government Centered Society" is pretty good. It's got some punch.
More-over: it could be a focus for an entire speech. One where he goes on about the Constitution establishing a People Centered Society- where people were in charge, and Government existed to serve them, but that Progressives have been "progressing" to Obama's Government Centered Society since the New Deal (I really think it's longer than that, but that's okay).
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 12:50 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Malia in DC at April 09, 2012 12:51 PM (c3mby)
Any Republican Presidential candidate who won't openly label President Hussein a socialist isn't worthy of the job. If you won't call evil by its true name, you are part of that evil itself.
No sale. I'm voting Obama just to prevent this turd of a fauxpublican from ruining conservatism. At least we can get a true patriotic conservative to rise from the ashes in 2016 after the nation has grown sick of four more years of Obama. Then they'll realize what's been missing.
See y'all in November 2016.
Posted by: Freedom Lover at April 09, 2012 12:51 PM (irCrF)
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 12:51 PM (P6QsQ)
Elect me and I will happily prove you wrong.
1. Close (as in: bolt the doors immediately and fire all of the employees) Dept. Of Education, Dept. of Energy, EPA, Dept. of Interior (Transfer all National parks to a slimmed down National Park Service), Dept. of Agriculture, Dept. of Labor.
That occurs on January 21st, 2013.
When the inevitable suit arrives on the doorstep of the Supreme Court, I will announce that I will accept whatever ruling they write, but will not spend one penny to reopen anything. The court will be allowed to fund their decisions on their own.
Then I'll get medieval on the rest of government.
We will be left with a strong, well maintained national highway system, a strong armed forces, an impregnable border, and low taxes.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 09, 2012 12:52 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: dagny is now smarter at April 09, 2012 12:52 PM (CMM9V)
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 12:52 PM (P6QsQ)
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I'd rather see Rand up againt Biden.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 09, 2012 04:48 PM (piMMO)
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I'm with you NDH. I'd rather see Rand get the nod for VP than Rubio. We're going to really need Rubio in the senate this next term.
Posted by: Soona at April 09, 2012 12:52 PM (2Z3Hb)
Posted by: Mr_Write at April 09, 2012 12:52 PM (VJUQK)
Posted by: Rich K at April 09, 2012 12:53 PM (X4l3T)
Posted by: maddogg at April 09, 2012 12:54 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: dagny is now smarter at April 09, 2012 12:54 PM (CMM9V)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 09, 2012 12:54 PM (0q2P7)
Harry Reid, the Majority Leader in the Senate, is a Mormon. Just how hard can they push that stuff?
As hard as Reid will let them. Which I'm guessing is pretty darn hard. Reid has never been a profile in courage.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at April 09, 2012 12:54 PM (epBek)
Posted by: Enemedia at April 09, 2012 12:54 PM (vpe0k)
Posted by: dananjcon at April 09, 2012 12:55 PM (8ieXv)
See y'all in November 2016.
Posted by: Freedom Lover at April 09, 2012 04:51 PM (irCrF)
what nation
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2012 12:55 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 12:55 PM (P6QsQ)
He hasn't exactly been rushing to distance himself from his dad's more kooky ideas. Which makes sense, of course, but is politically harmful none-the-less.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 12:56 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 09, 2012 04:52 PM (nEUpB)
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That's a well-thought-out strategy. But between that and reality is that ugly shitswamp called politics.
Posted by: Soona at April 09, 2012 12:56 PM (2Z3Hb)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 09, 2012 12:56 PM (jucos)
He blinds people with pure awesome.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 09, 2012 12:57 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Lily at April 09, 2012 12:57 PM (3NV05)
To all who are wavering about Romney ... we need to keep our eye on the ball.
And the ball is making "Barry" and Moochelle customers of Bekins in January.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 09, 2012 12:57 PM (jHzFg)
In the early days of the Trayvon Martin dust-up, he sided with the likes of CNN, MSNBC, Al Sharpton, and Jessie Jackson assuming that it was "racially motivated."
To my knowledge (admittedly incomplete) he hasn't walked that back.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 12:57 PM (8y9MW)
John Lassiter spoke for an hour and half and looked like he was doing the whole thing off the cuff, even though he had a PowerPoint screen at his feet.
People notice these things. Giving a speech that "feels" like it is from the heart really resonates with an audience, while the Obama teleprompter crap will leave people cold after the 6th or 7th time.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 09, 2012 12:57 PM (9t6jP)
as for me i would like that.
Id like someone to be totally upfront with what they were seeing inside washington.
i think ryan is also good at that.
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2012 12:57 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: dagny is now smarter at April 09, 2012 12:58 PM (CMM9V)
Okay, so there is a wee bit of fantasy in there...but a guy can dream!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 09, 2012 12:58 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 09, 2012 04:57 PM (0q2P7)
True. I have to wear a welders helmet to look directly at him.
Posted by: maddogg at April 09, 2012 12:58 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 12:58 PM (P6QsQ)
A man who quotes Plato vs a guy who eats Playdoh."
Now THAT is funny!
Posted by: Mr_Write at April 09, 2012 12:58 PM (VJUQK)
The question for grassroots conservatives is less of voting for Mitt in November and more of how to effectively influence / control / threaten him into not being a leftist retard once he's in office.
Posted by: Jaws at April 09, 2012 12:58 PM (4I3Uo)
"At least we can get a true patriotic conservative to rise from the ashes in 2016 after the nation has grown sick of four more years of Obama. "
You neo Nazi white trash rednecks and your dreams of Armageddon.
Posted by: Sockwave at April 09, 2012 12:58 PM (kaOJx)
Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2012 12:58 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 09, 2012 12:59 PM (IhUxK)
Posted by: dagny is now smarter at April 09, 2012 04:58 PM (CMM9V)
Nice.
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 09, 2012 12:59 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: Bell, Biv, Devoe at April 09, 2012 12:59 PM (jucos)
Posted by: The Dude at April 09, 2012 12:59 PM (M8yfa)
Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 09, 2012 01:00 PM (IhUxK)
1 minute.
And I'm taking the under.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 01:00 PM (8y9MW)
Actually, look at Venezuela.
Posted by: Lily at April 09, 2012 04:57 PM (3NV05)
Actually, look pretty much anywhere outside of America.
"Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expresly that the Command in chief of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen. "
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2012 01:00 PM (X3lox)
If he's elected again I have a desire to walk to Boulder Colorado. I think Vegas would be a bad idea.
M-O-O-N that spells nice dagny
Posted by: Enemedia at April 09, 2012 01:00 PM (vpe0k)
Posted by: The Dude at April 09, 2012 04:59 PM
Gets a new dog for his car?
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 01:00 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 09, 2012 01:01 PM (e8kgV)
...and that is worse than Obama being re-elected?1
Posted by: Mr_Write at April 09, 2012 01:01 PM (VJUQK)
You neo Nazi white trash rednecks and your dreams of Armageddon.
It's Romneybots like you who have turned a critical mass of authentic conservative voters away from the GOP. You exemplify everything rotten and snooty about Mittens and his Establishment-education gang.
Make no mistake: we WILL vote for Obama (or Constitution Party) in order to prevent Mitt Romney from becoming President. The GOP must be purified, at any costs.
Posted by: Freedom Lover at April 09, 2012 01:01 PM (irCrF)
Not really. He said the event was an outrage, but specifically stated that it should not be considered a racial incident, but rather a tragic loss of life.
Lots of links available.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 09, 2012 01:01 PM (nEUpB)
See, that's not fair. He wasn't strapping his dog to the top of his car to be cruel, he just thought the Mack Truck hood ornaments were really cool...
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 01:02 PM (8y9MW)
To my knowledge (admittedly incomplete) he hasn't walked that back.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 04:57 PM (8y9MW)
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Yup. That right there made me back off on my enthusiasm for West.
Posted by: Soona at April 09, 2012 01:02 PM (2Z3Hb)
I liked the bit about unions at 8:05ish. We'll never get rid of unions per se (any attempt to hamstring them significantly will backfire.) The best we can do (IMHO) is push Right-to-Work and let them crumble under themselves. Which will happen sooner rather than later. (BTW, where's the commerce clause on that one when you need it?)
In any case, Romney isn't the rightest of the R's, neither was Santorum. Newt is...Newt, which is to say complicated. That being said, a term of Romney, even if it's a holding pattern, will slow the exponential gov't growth we've got going now. With any luck it'll will start to reverse some of it. If we don't start turning off the Government Morphine Drip (tm pending.) We'll never be rid of it. But you can't just cut an addicts supply when that addict (i.e. the voters) get's to call the shots. I wish we could roll cold turkey on this, but I just don't see it. So I'll take a wean if that's all I got.
Posted by: tsrblke at April 09, 2012 01:02 PM (SYrwI)
Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 09, 2012 01:03 PM (IhUxK)
Obama is white wine: Maybe good for a while, but soon turns to vinegar"
That's not a reference I understand... try it again with diet coke or something.
-Mitt "the stick" Romney.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 01:03 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: dagny is now smarter at April 09, 2012 01:03 PM (CMM9V)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 01:03 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: longerthoughts at April 09, 2012 01:04 PM (CVVLU)
Raise from the ashes in this instance will not be metaphor. If JEF gets another term, this country is finished. I am not kidding.
Fine, then burn it all down. It was all going down anyway. At least I'll have the satisfaction of knowing I was right as we retake this nation with a real conservative candidate and a real conservative message. (Dare I say it? Sarah, a lonely nation turns its eyes to you.)
Posted by: Freedom Lover at April 09, 2012 01:04 PM (irCrF)
Posted by: mpfs at April 09, 2012 01:04 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 01:04 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 09, 2012 01:04 PM (9t6jP)
Posted by: nickless at April 09, 2012 01:05 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: The Dude at April 09, 2012 01:05 PM (M8yfa)
Then you will have to excuse yourself from it.
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 01:05 PM (P6QsQ)
I'm a ground squirrel and I know that's retarded.
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at April 09, 2012 01:05 PM (pVvkk)
Posted by: dagny is now smarter at April 09, 2012 01:05 PM (CMM9V)
"I'd rather see Rand up againt Biden."
Bad idea. Looks great on paper. Plays terribly in real life.
The Media still has yet to choose who will "moderate" the debates. If the VP Debate is Rand Paul vs. Joe Biden, then I would wager money that the debate will be conducted by someone who will spend the entire time race-baiting Paul over civil rights opinions and giving Joey easy scores.
Remember Gwen Ifill?
Posted by: reason at April 09, 2012 01:05 PM (kZVsz)
In the early days of the Trayvon Martin dust-up, he sided with the likes of CNN, MSNBC, Al Sharpton, and Jessie Jackson assuming that it was "racially motivated."
To my knowledge (admittedly incomplete) he hasn't walked that back.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 04:57 PM (8y9MW)
I second. Definitely NOT what I expected from West. Very discouraging.
Posted by: Havedash at April 09, 2012 01:06 PM (F0WNa)
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 09, 2012 01:06 PM (RD7QR)
So freedom lover is a fan of St Sarah the Spineless. I guess it'll warm her heart to realize a dipshit like fl is supporting her.
Posted by: Sockwave at April 09, 2012 01:06 PM (kaOJx)
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 01:06 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Freedom Lover at April 09, 2012 05:01 PM
I think if you just have several enemas it will purify you just fine. You'll be right as rain there Sparky.
Posted by: mpfs at April 09, 2012 01:07 PM (iYbLN)
There are several odd (and I'm being polite) origins in the religion game. Admittedly, the Mormons have a weird one, but honestly...I don't give a rat's ass how any religion sees its own founding. I am content to judge them based on the number of Americans killed in their names.
Islam is #1 on the hit parade, with no sign of it slowing.
LDS?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 09, 2012 01:07 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at April 09, 2012 01:07 PM (0tRzD)
Posted by: mpfs
He doesn't make the questions, that guy reads from a card.
-Sean Connery
p.s. about your pen.. is it mighter?
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 01:07 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: dagny is now smarter at April 09, 2012 01:07 PM (CMM9V)
I prefer a more rigorous test- but that's a good "rule of thumb" estimation.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 01:08 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Y-not at April 09, 2012 01:08 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: dagny is now smarter at April 09, 2012 01:09 PM (CMM9V)
Posted by: tasker at April 09, 2012 01:09 PM (r2PLg)
5 I still have a vision of [censored]. The bleach didn't help.
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And why would you want to share? I had managed to get it out of my mind.
Posted by: Anachronda at April 09, 2012 01:10 PM (xGZ+b)
Posted by: Jeff B. supports SMOD/Coldcuts '12 at March 13, 2012 01:14 PM (irCrF)
You guys are fucking fucking fucking idiots.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 09, 2012 01:10 PM (JEpGb)
Not as anything other than a member of the human race! I'm not talking about conversion...I'm talking about coexistence (and not that stupid bumper sticker either!).
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 09, 2012 01:10 PM (nEUpB)
Oh. That should go without saying.
He *did* call for the AJ to investigate, but I'm sure that he was under pressure from his constituents to do so and that is his job, after all.
Ah. My apologies. Though I'll point out that it is not actually a legislator's "job" to call for a Federal Investigation into a State (and, really: local) criminal matter.
So, not as bad as I understood, still bad, though.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 01:11 PM (8y9MW)
@Mama Winger,
I've got a few "former liberal" friends who jumped the boat to far to anarchist. I don't think they realize that in such a "burn it all down" scenerio, their pretty little houses and at least middle class jobs will probably be toast. (one of them works for a university, admittedly as a security guard, but still a job that will go.) I try to explain the example of a middle ground and they scratch their heads at me. My guess is they'll Vote Obama anyway. It saddens men.
Posted by: tsrblke at April 09, 2012 01:11 PM (SYrwI)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 09, 2012 01:11 PM (0q2P7)
Google is our friend.
Not a bad attempt though.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 09, 2012 01:12 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 09, 2012 01:12 PM (hO8IJ)
Ah. I thought we were talking about the Truth of the Religions in question.
Yes, to your point- absolutely correct.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 01:12 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Jeff B. supports SMOD/Coldcuts '12 at March 13, 2012 01:14 PM (irCrF)
You guys are fucking fucking fucking idiots.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 09, 2012 05:10 PM (JEpGb)
[Shrugs] Everybody with two brain cells knew it was a troll.
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 09, 2012 01:12 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Y-not at April 09, 2012 01:13 PM (5H6zj)
Dude! He's trying to set the hook. Give him a little time.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 09, 2012 01:13 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: D. Hopper at April 09, 2012 01:13 PM (+u57l)
The DOOM gun is trained and loaded, and we are going to get smacked. It is a question of when. If Romney wins, look for collapse in December before his inauguration.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 09, 2012 01:13 PM (0q2P7)
67 I trust Mitt to be a conservative about as I can throw Chris Christie with Michael Moore on his shoulders.
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Mitt ain't conservative so much as he's conswervative.
As in he swerves around all over the place.
It sounded better in my head.
Posted by: Anachronda at April 09, 2012 01:13 PM (xGZ+b)
There's nothing punchy about 9 syllables. How about Collectivist?
Posted by: Rocks at April 09, 2012 01:13 PM (Q1lie)
Rubio is touting his version of the Dream Act. I suppose the conservative shelf-life is about 2 yrs.
Posted by: Havedash at April 09, 2012 01:14 PM (F0WNa)
Posted by: Freedom Lover at April 09, 2012 05:04 PM (irCrF)
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I really don't think you realize how heartbreaking that would be. I'll do my best to keep this nation from burning.
One of the things you absolutely must consider in your zeal to see the deconstruction of civil order (yes, we still have an emoticon of civil order) is that there are nations, movements, religions, tin-pot dictators that are licking their chops at the prospects of this nation "burning".
Posted by: Soona at April 09, 2012 01:14 PM (2Z3Hb)
Posted by: tasker at April 09, 2012 01:14 PM (r2PLg)
Agreed. People who have never lived in a war zone have some kind of bad sickness to be wishing it upon their families and their neighbors.
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 01:14 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Y-not at April 09, 2012 01:15 PM (5H6zj)
Ah, I see the confusion.
No, I will never judge another man's religion, as long as he allows me mine.
Islam is a revolutionary political philosophy that co-opted a budding religion for its own ends, so I feel perfectly comfortable criticizing it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 09, 2012 01:16 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: dagny is now smarter at April 09, 2012 01:16 PM (CMM9V)
Collectivist doesn't necessarily have the right connotation, though. It's important that people understand that the Government is becoming for the Government. That is, that people understand that Obama sees the rest of us as peasants and serfs, not as Citizens. And that's important.
I've used "Neo-Feudal" before... how about that?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 01:16 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: tasker at April 09, 2012 01:17 PM (r2PLg)
It looks pretty damned good on the screen.
Well done.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 09, 2012 01:17 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at April 09, 2012 01:17 PM (niW49)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 05:16 PM
I would suggest "HEY! They want to be the boss of you !!".
But then. I am a flyover type gal.
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 01:18 PM (P6QsQ)
Romney has about a 95% chance of getting the nom at this point. From your point of view, political participation at this point is pointless. Why are you bothering those of us who still care enough to try? Why don't you go home (shut down your computer) and get ready for the DOOM that you intend to help along?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 09, 2012 01:18 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: joeindc44 the bluff caller at April 09, 2012 01:18 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: tasker at April 09, 2012 05:17 PM (r2PLg)
oh be quite you, if you don't suck Romney's dick then you're just a faghag Obama fan
Posted by: The Dude at April 09, 2012 01:18 PM (M8yfa)
Posted by: blue star at April 09, 2012 01:19 PM (wPV9+)
Rather, I think what is really going on here is that Derbyshire broke two tacit rules of the entente between progressives and right-liberals. These rules are as follows: (1) The Right is permitted to be very modestly scientifically racist, so long as no action of any kind is advocated, and the left gets to shriek “racism”; (2) The education of children is entirely and completely the domain of the left.
Derbyshire broke both rules, and flagrantly. Not only does Derbyshire advocate taking personal action based on racist stereotypes, he also advocates teaching such foaming hatred to children. That is why he had to be defenestrated by National Review.
Posted by: from Amnation.com at April 09, 2012 01:19 PM (Dll6b)
I'm a ground squirrel and I know that's retarded.
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at April 09, 2012 05:05 PM (pVvkk)
Viva Rondentia!
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 09, 2012 01:19 PM (NVu2l)
To the idealist, the word "socialism" means "fairness".
I think it is smart to continue to avoid the word.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Hors"
Agreed
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 01:19 PM (RfvTE)
Certainly accurate.
We could go with the classic "Autocratic." But I think that's lost some of its bite.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 01:20 PM (8y9MW)
Romney is the best candidate we have fielded since Reagan, I am convinced of that, and one of the best since Coolidge.
Posted by: crosspatch at April 09, 2012 01:20 PM (ZbLJZ)
Well Morons, got canned from my little dead-end, I-was-making-more-on funemployment, making-twenty-percent-of-my-last-job job today, something I'd been expecting for a while.
Whee! My second round of funemployment begins!
Napkins and straws for everybody!!!
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 09, 2012 01:21 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: crosspatch at April 09, 2012 05:20 PM (ZbLJZ)
haha
Posted by: The Dude at April 09, 2012 01:21 PM (M8yfa)
Posted by: tasker at April 09, 2012 01:22 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 09, 2012 01:22 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 01:22 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet maybe ex-hobo at April 09, 2012 01:22 PM (QTHTd)
I can't keep track without a scorecard, is this Freedom Lover character the actual Jeff B or not?
I'll keep my powder dry until I receive confirmation.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 09, 2012 01:23 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 05:14 PM (P6QsQ)
I think they expect the "burn it all down" will go fairly smoothly. Because you know...Egypt and stuff. We'll just tell the politicians to go and...
Point is they aren't really thinking straight. Like I said, inevitably they either get wooed by the Bread and Circuses of Obama (or another Lib) again or they don't vote out of "anger."
New rule around my group, if you don't vote, you can't complain.
Posted by: tsrblke at April 09, 2012 01:23 PM (SYrwI)
Agreed. People who have never lived in a war zone have some kind of bad sickness to be wishing it upon their families and their neighbors.
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 05:14 PM (P6QsQ)
Yep. I've had a taste or two of real social chaos and it was NOT pleasant. I suspect anyone wishing for the system to collapse is living in a Mitty-esque fantasy world.
Posted by: Mætenloch at April 09, 2012 01:23 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet maybe ex-hobo at April 09, 2012 01:23 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: tasker at April 09, 2012 01:23 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Soona at April 09, 2012 01:25 PM (2Z3Hb)
Posted by: Tami at April 09, 2012 01:25 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet maybe ex-hobo at April 09, 2012 05:23 PM
That indeed is good news. Very happy things are looking up for you, Boulder.
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 01:26 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet maybe ex-hobo at April 09, 2012 01:26 PM (QTHTd)
@Soona - that'ssh intenssshional. Because he's gone from peddling shams to peddling schtick.
I think the product name is even spelled in a humorous way in order to intentionalize the speech impediment.
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell's Gristle-Encased Frontbutt at April 09, 2012 01:26 PM (kZVsz)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 09, 2012 01:27 PM (eCnLg)
That was fun, wasn't it?
I didn't mean to set him off- but I'm not really sorry I did.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 01:28 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: tasker at April 09, 2012 01:28 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 01:28 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Y-not at April 09, 2012 01:29 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 09, 2012 01:29 PM (hiMsy)
Posted by: Y-not at April 09, 2012 01:29 PM (5H6zj)
It's like Dad versus the Snarky Sophomore.
I have hope.
Posted by: PJ at April 09, 2012 01:29 PM (DQHjw)
It's going to be tough to vote at my polling place, if I am knee-walking drunk. .....It's at a church. People will notice if I am clutching the wall to stand up.
I may just have to do the mail-in ballot thing. That way I can stay home...and get really shit-faced.
To all those folks who have been Romney fans from the beginning....just remember: Gloating will only make us hate your guy. And the majority of conservatives didn't willingly choose Romney....he was forced on us. ...We will vote for him only because the alternative is horrible.
Posted by: wheatie at April 09, 2012 01:30 PM (+5U+B)
Posted by: Y-not at April 09, 2012 01:30 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet maybe ex-hobo at April 09, 2012 05:23 PMulations
Congratulations!
Still looking since September 2011.
Posted by: YIKES! at April 09, 2012 01:30 PM (1mF6D)
Posted by: Tami at April 09, 2012 01:30 PM (X6akg)
When did class time become picnic time?
All these muthafuckas around me are eating chips, cookies, and drinking cokes.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2012 01:30 PM (f/6q2)
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 05:14 PM (P6QsQ)
Yep. I've had a taste or two of real social chaos and it was NOT pleasant. I suspect anyone wishing for the system to collapse is living in a Mitty-esque fantasy world.
Posted by: Mætenloch at April 09, 2012 05:23 PM (pAlYe)
Wonderful thought- in a total breakdown, half the people on "Doomsday Preppers" would croak from congestive heart failure about a month in. So don't count on just stocking up. There is no justification for the glee some show for a total breakdown of society. I think such people are psychopaths with an urge to kill and that situation would fulfill that sick urge in a hundred different ways.
Posted by: CAC at April 09, 2012 01:30 PM (mKQHa)
Posted by: Siggy Freud, M.D. at April 09, 2012 01:30 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 09, 2012 01:31 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: Y-not at April 09, 2012 01:31 PM (5H6zj)
It is clear that Mitt Romney will win the Republican Nomination for President of the United States.
Consequently, it is becoming ridiculously obvious that all remaining Romney-haters are effectively engaged in the campaign against him becoming President. (They can no longer cover themselves with the thin veil that they really just want to see someone else win the nomination. – That’s over.)
That essentially puts them in league with the Obama campaign.
And that's all we really need to know about them.
Posted by: _Dave_ at April 09, 2012 01:31 PM (2amQY)
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston would be forever alone without AoS at April 09, 2012 01:31 PM (KCvsd)
ItÂ’s ironic that they hurl the utterly irrational and lame insult that Romney supporters are trolls. We are? Really? Trolls pretend to be something other than they are.
But consider that they are the ones who are verbally tearing down a man of significant accomplishment who has openly embraced the Paul Ryan Budget and who is solely challenging Obama for the Presidency. Attacking Romney makes them the trolls. – And from here on out, they should always be dismissed as such. Call them by their category: Obama Trolls.
And even more specifically: Romney Bashing Obama Trolls. (Or: RBOTs)
Posted by: _Dave_ at April 09, 2012 01:31 PM (2amQY)
Posted by: Y-not at April 09, 2012 05:29 PM (5H6zj)
I'm pretty sure it's a troll socking Jeff B. - Jeff's usual hash is hIWe1.
Posted by: Mætenloch at April 09, 2012 01:32 PM (pAlYe)
282 -
Same here. Jeff B was/is a HUGE Romney supporter. Now that I think about it though, I haven't seen much of him lately. He also made a big announcement about having cancer a couple months ago. Is this the same person or not?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 09, 2012 01:32 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 09, 2012 05:27 PM (eCnLg)
It helps if your thought was 'ARMAGEDDON!"....anything less than that is good news.
Posted by: Tami at April 09, 2012 01:33 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Siggy Freud, M.D. at April 09, 2012 01:33 PM (Dll6b)
"Do the funemployment benefits reset at least?"
AFAIK, they do, how much they'll be, I don't. Oh well, my gasoline expenses just went way down, so there's that.
I'm not terribly distraught about it. This cold Guinness in my hand is helping, although I may have to give that up until things improve. If I can get back in a manufacturing job, which the great state of Florda is supposed to be on the forefront of (I hope), then everything will work out. And congrats to BTH - you have completed the great circle of Intawebz life by starting your job Monday.
I'm in a new band that plays classic rock and if we can position ourselves to start getting some convention gigs down here, that'll help.
Thanks for the well wishes. B'Gal and I will survive, just like we did when I was out of work the last time. We cut our expenses to the bone pretty much during that time, so UE may be all we'll need for a while. That's all I need, that and this ashtray... and this magazine...that's all I need.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 09, 2012 01:33 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: toby928© at April 09, 2012 01:33 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell's Gristle-Encased Frontbutt at April 09, 2012 01:34 PM (kZVsz)
Posted by: wheatie at April 09, 2012 05:30 PM (+5U+B)
time to get on your knees and start sucking on Mitt's honey dipped balls, it makes the medicine go down
Posted by: The Dude at April 09, 2012 01:34 PM (M8yfa)
When there was a chance that an alternative candidate could win the Republican nomination, we could give the Romney-bashers the benefit of the doubt.
But now those who continue to bash Romney have no excuse left. They are Obama Trolls bashing Romney - plain and simple.
Sure, they will claim that they hate Obama also. But thatÂ’s just the thin disguise they employ to give themselves the permission to bash Romney. And now itÂ’s obvious.
They are Obama Trolls who pretended to support weaker GOP nominees. - Just so they could get their jollies by ripping on the likely Republican Nominee who would eventually be challenging their precious, messianic Obama.
Posted by: _Dave_ at April 09, 2012 01:35 PM (2amQY)
"Obama is muslim kenyan born fucking marxist traitor"
Even Mr. Obama who clearly has anger fueled daddy issues with Bush didn't run against him as a "neo-con warcriminal Bu$hitler"... so riddle me this. while "government centered society" might feel a little lukewarm coffee to you.. are you smarter or dumber then radical leftists?
Also, Americans don't want to believe that they elected a euro-socialist or that Obama is a far left academic radical. "government centered society" will play well in the suburbs, its about as far as most people are willing to go agree in their criticism of him. Not to ramble.. I would bet $$$ that this phrase makes Axelrod very uncomfortable and knows how potent this is.. So find some comfort in that.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 01:36 PM (RfvTE)
Their continuing attacks on Romney reveal their true agenda.
Yet they are stupidly shredding their own obvious disguises – exposing themselves for the nasty Obama Trolls they clearly are.
Posted by: _Dave_ at April 09, 2012 01:36 PM (2amQY)
James O'Keefe told us why.
Those who control the law and voting process have too much to lose. They have been given the reins of power and no one wants wrestle them away.
We will submit to voter fraud just like we submit to TSA child-groping, creeping sharia and EEO.
And because we love the Constitution, we will submit to accepting the results of the 2012 election as Hussein the first is once again coronated.
Your daily life will go on. You may just have to show your papers a little more often year after year.
Posted by: reality check at April 09, 2012 01:36 PM (Zw/H7)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 09, 2012 01:37 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff, lookin' for a new gig at April 09, 2012 01:37 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: CAC at April 09, 2012 05:30 PM (mKQHa)
Si, si: Nations which collapse do so slowly, unless they lose a war and are occupied--even the German Empire / Deutsches Reich kept most of itself intact after Versailles, and even after the Madness of 1923.
a collapsing America will take decades to reach The Nadir. Long, ugly ride..
Posted by: the girl from Ipanema at April 09, 2012 01:38 PM (Dll6b)
SNL is going to be on overtime trying to find a way to diffuse that phrase. Again find some comfort in that.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 01:38 PM (RfvTE)
293 -
I have two regular hashes (work/home), and I think a changing hash when I'm using my phone. Like I said before, I haven't seen Jeff B post recently, but I don't follow every thread either. So, if we can get clarification, that would be good, and if this Freedom Lover character spoofed Jeff B previously, I think that's worthy of the death penalty.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 09, 2012 01:38 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 09, 2012 01:38 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet maybe ex-hobo at April 09, 2012 01:39 PM (QTHTd)
It is clear that Mitt Romney will win the Republican Nomination for President of the United States.
Consequently, it is becoming ridiculously obvious that all remaining Romney-haters are effectively engaged in the campaign against him becoming President. (They can no longer cover themselves with the thin veil that they really just want to see someone else win the nomination. – That’s over.)
That essentially puts them in league with the Obama campaign.
And that's all we really need to know about them.
Posted by: _Dave_ at April 09, 2012 05:31 PM (2amQY)
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That's what I've been thinking. Now that we know who will probably be our nominee, we'll start seeing who the DNCbots have been all along now.
Posted by: Soona at April 09, 2012 01:39 PM (2Z3Hb)
Posted by: tasker at April 09, 2012 01:39 PM (r2PLg)
Are you trying to be an ass? Because, if so, you're succeeding spectacularly.
Yeah, some of us still don't like Mitt. If he'll keep saying the kind of thing he said in this clip, it may get better. But it certainly won't if jerks like you keep up your little emotional blackmail routine.
Yes- people are people no matter where you are, and most of them just get more stubborn (no matter the cost to themselves) when they believe they're being brow-beaten, or railroaded into something.
A better way to handle it is just to ignore the more vociferous ones, and to provide information to those who ask for it. Most of them (no- not all) will come around- but the only thing they (we) have left is our option of griping about Mitt. If you're going to say that griping about Mitt is the same as supporting Obama, you'll find that some of them (on this one: them, not me, but it's true nonetheless) will be willing, if reluctant, to prove you right.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 01:40 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Daniel Jeyn at April 09, 2012 01:41 PM (jBA6+)
And that's all we really need to know about them.
Uh huh. You're either with us or against us. And you're unpatriotic too!
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A not-inconsiderable amount of small-government Conservatives, myself included, won't vote for another Progressive-lite Republican nominee.
Tough shit - better luck next time! Someone's got to keep this wreck of a party from capsizing over left-side.
Posted by: MlR at April 09, 2012 01:42 PM (vj9lA)
Posted by: Soona at April 09, 2012 05:39 PM (2Z3Hb)
thought the main reason for Romney was because the dems, moderates and independents were comfortable with him?
Posted by: The Dude at April 09, 2012 01:42 PM (M8yfa)
Those who control the law and voting process have too much to lose. They have been given the reins of power and no one wants wrestle them away.
We will submit to voter fraud just like we submit to TSA child-groping, creeping sharia and EEO.
This is where I make my pitch. I will be making it again and again, so I probably should just paste it somewhere so I can access it easily from now till November.
YOU CAN HELP in a real way here. Contact your local Republican party office and tell them that you are making yourself available to be a poll watcher on election day. The more Republican bodies that we have at each polling place, the better the chances of stopping this kind of nonsense. They will train you what to watch for as far as election fraud goes, and how to challenge it, as well as how to watch at the end of the evening when they tally the votes from the machine. It's not hard . Do this one thing if you can .
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 01:42 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: nickless at April 09, 2012 01:43 PM (MMC8r)
I didn't read this thread.
I didn't read the movie review thread, either. But I know how that one ends.
No Matt Damon? No Stars.
Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2012 01:44 PM (CYD6E)
Dave,
the Right's lack of cultish hero worship this go-round is a good thing. Don't try to bring up the average all on your lonesome.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at April 09, 2012 01:45 PM (epBek)
*****
I think West has a bit of difficulty in controlling his anger reflexes. I like that the guy is angry...hell, I LOVE that the guy is angry, but he comes off sometimes in such a way that the focus of his anger is lost to the focus on his anger.
He, like Rubio, needs to simmer in the pot a while longer.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 09, 2012 01:45 PM (piMMO)
SNL is going to be on overtime trying to find a way to diffuse that phrase.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 05:38 PM (RfvTE)
Hardly. Leftists will tell you that they love a government-centered society, because it sounds so nice and benign. "Government-centered society" doesn't make anyone feel overly anxious about an encroachment of individual rights because it's designed not to. It's how Mr. Nice Guy would describe any totalitarian, real or wannabe.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2012 01:45 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: polynikes at April 09, 2012 01:45 PM (eKmTe)
Sounds like Jeff B.
Posted by: tasker at April 09, 2012 05:39 PM (r2PLg)
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Yes. Yes it does.
Posted by: Soona at April 09, 2012 01:46 PM (2Z3Hb)
Posted by: tasker at April 09, 2012 05:39 PM (r2PLg)
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Yes. Yes it does.
Posted by: Soona at April 09, 2012 05:46 PM (2Z3Hb)
True - that does sound Jeff B-ish.
Posted by: Mætenloch at April 09, 2012 01:47 PM (pAlYe)
He voted for Pigford, and then walked it back. He jumped shit with Zimmerman, walkback still pending.
Posted by: toby928© at April 09, 2012 01:47 PM (GTbGH)
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Adding italics is now a PITA so I just use asterisks as dividing lines. It's easier.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 09, 2012 01:49 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: tasker at April 09, 2012 01:50 PM (r2PLg)
As President, you don't get to call back the missiles once you've fired them.
...something to keep in mind.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet maybe ex-hobo at April 09, 2012 01:52 PM (QTHTd)
Nah. Didn't forget. I figured it wasn't germane to the fact that uderscoreDaveunderscore was acting like the south end of a north bound cow.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 09, 2012 01:53 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: LGoPs at April 09, 2012 01:54 PM (+Uv5V)
Posted by: The Dude at April 09, 2012 05:42 PM (M8yfa)
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I'm talking about some people posting on the political threads that call themselves conservative or, at least, center-right who have savaged every front-runner we've had during the primary. And I'm not talking about critisizing a point or two about what a particular candidate has said. I'll still be doing that with Romney.
Posted by: Soona at April 09, 2012 01:55 PM (2Z3Hb)
Forgive my doubt as I wish I could believe that would matter.
The Attorney General of the United States watched a national viral video of a Black Panther intimidating voters.
And refused. to. prosecute.
To a roaring chorus of citizen silence.
Posted by: reality check at April 09, 2012 01:57 PM (Zw/H7)
Posted by: Daniel Jeyn at April 09, 2012 02:00 PM (jBA6+)
Posted by: nickless at April 09, 2012 02:00 PM (MMC8r)
*****
Please tell me you're not tempting the fates with the it can't get any worse argument.
Quick!
Everyone knock on wood!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 09, 2012 02:01 PM (piMMO)
Wasn't it worse than that? The NBPP had already been found guilty by default. The AG dropped the case after it was won.
Posted by: toby928© at April 09, 2012 02:01 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: reality check at April 09, 2012 05:57 PM (Zw/H7)
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I don't think the citizenship was silent. As a matter of fact, when it happened there was quite the turbulence. But, as with everything else with this regime, the SCOAMT said, "Shut up, we won".
Posted by: Soona at April 09, 2012 02:02 PM (2Z3Hb)
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 02:03 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 09, 2012 02:07 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Daniel Jeyn at April 09, 2012 02:07 PM (jBA6+)
As many as I feel it necessary and yes it will.
Mitt's never getting my vote. I don't "owe" the Republican Party a vote just because "my guy" lost.
This country vacillates between a Republican and a Democrat in the White House. With Mitt as the Republican president, the next Democrat will be more of an America-hating Socialist then Obama, and Mitt will be painted as the new face of "Conservatism".
I'm not voting for a pro-socialized medicine, pro-abortion, anti-gun, big government Republican. I don't care WHAT he sounds like this week.
Better a Republican Congress who can thwart Obama's efforts (yes, including Supreme Court nominees) and a conservative nominee in '16, than a Romney Presidency that fixes nothing and drags us all to the Left.
Posted by: Sgt. York at April 09, 2012 02:16 PM (vyS+v)
Wrong.
We'd rather win both.
But we won't compromise one for the other.
Posted by: Sgt. York at April 09, 2012 02:19 PM (vyS+v)
I'll settle for Romney this time around.
Of course you will, that was decided for you long ago by your banker masters.
Posted by: Frankenstein Government at April 09, 2012 02:21 PM (GOG1H)
Fine, I get it. You don't like him.
Not sure what your election plans are. Mine are evicting Obama from the White House.>>
Mine are insuring a Republican-controlled congress. I would rather have the devil I know than the one who pretends he isn't what he has been his whole life until now.
After three elections where I compromised my principles, held my nose and voted, I've had enough of candidates I don't believe in (and I wouldn't have voted McCain if Palin hadn't been on the ticket).
Posted by: Sgt. York at April 09, 2012 02:23 PM (vyS+v)
Posted by: Daniel Jeyn at April 09, 2012 02:37 PM (jBA6+)
Posted by: belial at April 09, 2012 03:00 PM (J3Ovp)
Wait, I haven't even read most of this thread since I left the office, so just to be clear: OF COURSE I was "Freedom Lover" -- isn't that as transparently obvious a sock-puppet "over the top" Hot-Air style frother as it gets?
Anything else that might have gone on since then, I don't know crap about that.
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 09, 2012 03:12 PM (hIWe1)
I thought the "Sarah, a lonely nation turns it eyes to you" made it really, really obvious. I dunno, maybe it was too close to the real thing to come across as parody.
Maybe I have to work on my tone.
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 09, 2012 03:14 PM (hIWe1)
Maybe you should just post as yourself, and say what you want to say in a straight-forward manner.
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 03:15 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 09, 2012 03:15 PM (hIWe1)
>>>Maybe you should just post as yourself, and say what you want to say in a straight-forward manner.
I use sock-puppet gags approximately once per Presidential administration, as opposed to 90% of the rest of the Morons here who do so on a daily basis. I even gave myself an implausibly over-the-top username to signal the lack of seriousness. Why is it allowed for everyone else and not me, again?
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 09, 2012 03:18 PM (hIWe1)
Who said you were not allowed? You were complaining that you don't do it well. I suggested that maybe a strategy that would work in that instance would maybe be not to do it.
Posted by: mama winger at April 09, 2012 03:20 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 09, 2012 03:42 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Mr_Write at April 09, 2012 03:50 PM (VJUQK)
Posted by: S-Cargo at April 09, 2012 03:51 PM (xP8Aq)
Immigration (especially the attempt to re-write the 14th ammendment), Campaign Finance Reform (McCain/Feingold), his opposition to the Bush Tax Cuts, the Gang of 14, Voted for TARP.
<< What is it that you want that would motivate you to bother to vote against Obama?>>
And actual Republican candidate...not a RINO.
Posted by: Sgt. York at April 09, 2012 04:16 PM (vyS+v)
>>>How ya hanging in there, Jeff? You feeling alright?
Felt better, felt worse. Primary issues right now are related to job stress, actually.
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 09, 2012 04:25 PM (hIWe1)
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 09, 2012 05:23 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: VRWC Agent at April 09, 2012 06:16 PM (NbODQ)
"Government-controlled society"---Methinks he's waiting 'til the nomination to take the Mittens off.
Pretty good speech! One of the least robotic I've seen thus far.
Posted by: Taxpayer1234 at April 09, 2012 06:34 PM (NpmCe)
Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 09, 2012 04:22 PM (IhUxK)
http://tinyurl.com/22ozj7g
In a town hall in I think 2008, Romney goes out of his way to praise Hezbollah as a humanitarian organization when asked completely unrelated to that group. He then goes on state his commitment to fighting "Jihadism" a la Bush with free money and global goodwill programs:
http://tinyurl.com/7ly5p8n
And here's Romney asserting forcefully, that "Islam is not an inherently violent faith" -
http://tinyurl.com/c5w7eoz
If you just want to beat Obama and don't care how you do it, then fine. But keep the lipstick of that pig!
Posted by: november1981 at April 09, 2012 06:57 PM (bl+pY)
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 09, 2012 07:18 PM (hIWe1)
It's in the delivery.
Posted by: Barky The Tardy From Jakarty at April 09, 2012 07:00 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Vercingetorix at April 09, 2012 08:02 PM (pOUA4)
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I've been in the hospital three times in the last two months with health concerns due to job related stress. Each time things gets bad, I push myself harder assuming that I can magically fix the situation.
Now my cardiologist has taken a stand and proclaimed I appear incapable of making decision with my own best health in mind.
Now I am on short-term disability. I intend to use this time to get healthier and the look for a new employer.
18 years with them, but I can't allow them to kill me.
I know it's difficult to consider with any sort of clear mind how to hold on to your job and, most importantly, your health benefits, while not working yourself into the grave but, sometimes it's just that cut and dry: You work your ass off to keep a job and benefits that, in the end, will make absolutely no difference in your life when you drive yourself into the hospital for good. Trust in someone you care for to lend guidance and try to do something to reduce the stress in your life. Stress erodes the well-being of a healthy person and is deadly in those with chronic illness.
God Bless. I hope all improves for you.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 09, 2012 08:03 PM (piMMO)
Get back to us come Autumn when Rove and Romney start fire-bombing Obama with PAC money.
You think Romney's negatives went up? Wait until you see Obama's.
Realize, beyond the gasoline and failed pipelines, beyond the bailouts and corruption, beyond the gun-running and Fast & Furious, beyond the green energy bullshit -- most American voters never saw Rev. Wright. They don't know who Bill Ayers is. Fox reaches, what, 5M people? Perhaps 10-15M through one association, mostly concentrated in conservative social circles. And McCain was too much of a pussy to push the button.
We don't need the MSM anymore. Citizens United means we can buy our own airtime and run commercials strait into your neocortex.
Just wait until you see what they do to Barack Hussein Obama's negatives come November.
They're going to make Dresden look like a bonfire,
Posted by: Uriah Heep at April 09, 2012 08:43 PM (JdSQO)
America needs conservative military men in the white house...
Perry/West 2012
DUMP MITT NOW!
Posted by: Pragmatic at April 09, 2012 10:11 PM (elHhH)
Posted by: Pragmatic at April 09, 2012 10:14 PM (elHhH)
Nope, gotta vote Mitt. Obama is just that much of a shitbag.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at April 09, 2012 11:32 PM (fiXQh)
Posted by: McThag at April 10, 2012 09:24 AM (zElJI)
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And I'm pretty much against that. If you are, I mean.
Text me.
Posted by: Mittens at April 09, 2012 12:15 PM (QKKT0)