March 28, 2012
— CAC This last one isn't a "best case scenario" either. It's how I actually see the few gubernatorial elections going this year. The Demplosion of 2010 on this level was massive, with Republicans entering 2011 up 29-20-1 over the Democrats. If that was the Permian Mass Extinction, 2012 will be Chicxulub:
The biggest surprise is West Virginia. I see a rematch of 2011, but with more time on the side of the Republican who ran out before he could enjoy his surge late last year. Maloney barely lost to Governor Tomblin, 49-47, in a race that had started off giving the Governor a 30+ point lead. PPP even issued a caveat in their final polling (giving Tomblin a 47-46 edge) that Earl Ray could thank his lucky stars Maloney didn't have until November (the special election was held in October), because he would have lost.
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Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 06:14 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Robert at March 28, 2012 06:15 AM (nuu5o)
Posted by: joncelli, at the climax of mental masturbation at March 28, 2012 06:16 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: mama winger at March 28, 2012 06:17 AM (P6QsQ)
It just took me a good 30 seconds to pull up. They may just be having exceptional traffic.
Or they're sniffing their web server requests for your IP so they can refuse your ability to connect. Maybe they don't want your cooties.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 06:17 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at March 28, 2012 06:18 AM (pVvkk)
"Thank you, screaming leftist teacher union thugs for making us do this all over again. For the children."
**
That's why they trashed the State House too, for the children.
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2012 06:20 AM (jm/9g)
What's going on in Missouri? How do they have a blue gov? They keep getting redder.
Also, I will eat my hat if we win Washington. We're always told this is the year and it never happens.
Posted by: Ben at March 28, 2012 06:21 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 28, 2012 06:22 AM (tf9Ne)
Neither. It was a "Best Case Scenario" projection of Senate Races.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 06:23 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 28, 2012 10:25 AM (PJ+vx)
Check the roof first!
Posted by: EC at March 28, 2012 06:26 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: tsrblke at March 28, 2012 06:26 AM (SYrwI)
Well you know, overturning legitimate elections because you didn't like the results is "what democracy looks like." And did you see the story about thugs killing the new puppy of a Walker supporter in Dane County?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at March 28, 2012 06:29 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 28, 2012 10:19 AM (j+DX4)
It's actually the State AG running against our lame duck Queen Christine Gregoire.
Sen. Maria Cantwell's polling has been lower than expected. Of course, the RNC ain't pouring enough money into Baumgartner's http://votebaumgartner.com/ campaign. Asshats.
Posted by: Sean Connery's Hand at March 28, 2012 06:29 AM (EL+OC)
Thanks, I assumed it wasn't really NSFW but wasn't willing to risk opening it.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 28, 2012 06:30 AM (tf9Ne)
Soap
It's Cleveland. Who knows what their polling methodology was? It's just BS cranked up for the masses of idiots that read their paper.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch, writes..... at March 28, 2012 06:30 AM (sJTmU)
Please post the link.
Posted by: EC at March 28, 2012 06:30 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Welcome To The Glenn Beck Show at March 28, 2012 06:31 AM (ETgqz)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at March 28, 2012 10:29 AM
Oh my gosh, no.
Posted by: mama winger at March 28, 2012 06:32 AM (P6QsQ)
Well, Reynolds puts puppies in the blender all the time.
At least that's what Frank Fleming says, and he's unbalanced and unmedicated.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch, writes..... at March 28, 2012 06:32 AM (sJTmU)
Posted by: CAC at March 28, 2012 06:33 AM (6gk77)
Posted by: t-bird at March 28, 2012 06:34 AM (FcR7P)
They went all in on the JEF; they thought their two of Clubs and two of Spades would be enough to win it all.
They have to--have to--have the JEF win to cement their power. See, while we're well aware of their projection that the right is racist, evil, etc., we forget that they also project their own ruthlessness, relentlessness and drive--they think if they lose now, the right will roll it all back. They really don't know the GOP very well . . . .
Posted by: Jimmuy at March 28, 2012 06:36 AM (kSaUf)
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at March 28, 2012 06:36 AM (r2PLg)
I would love to, but the blogs that covered it are blocked at my office. CAC or someone could get it off my Facebook, I posted it there last night.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at March 28, 2012 06:36 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at March 28, 2012 10:34 AM (vbh31)
I read somewhere that the sampling in that poll matched 2008 with a large D discrepancy. No where near the 2010 which is what the author believed 2012 will be like.
Posted by: Hedgehog at March 28, 2012 06:37 AM (3jGS1)
Racist.
Posted by: taylork at March 28, 2012 06:38 AM (5wsU9)
What's her phone number, CAC?
Posted by: EC at March 28, 2012 06:38 AM (GQ8sn)
well.... if this doesn't get a flaming skull, can we at least haz our dancing ewok?
Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at March 28, 2012 06:39 AM (6M2rK)
@25
Um....dude, if you haven't noticed the growing anti-Semeticism and strident calls for revolution and even murder on the part of the leftists, you haven't been paying attention. Also, if you think the world economy or even the U.S. economy is healthy, well, good luck with that.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at March 28, 2012 06:39 AM (M0NzJ)
His rhinestoned fat ass has got way too much class for that cesspool.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at March 28, 2012 06:41 AM (ZKzrr)
Living here in parallel Hell, or Ohio for you outsiders, the telephone polls are especially suspect.
How are the phone call numbers generated and selected? Who answers or responds?
Like most states, political affiliations within the state can be incredibly oriented with the respect to location. I live in a highly Republican area, but you can go a few miles away, and it becomes highly Democrat populated.
The R's are not particularly popular statewide right now because of Issue 2 (SB5 referendum) last fall. Gov. Kasich wanted to control pension and benefit expenses by reducing collective bargaining rights, and the usual union suspects rallied to oppose it.
However, he also got a two-year balanced budget through the Assembly without raising taxes, and unemployment is dropping, imperceptibly as it might seem. After years of crapping on business by the state government (Republicans and Democrats), there is the beginnings of a small bounce back. Kasich will get no credit for it from the news vultures, but it seems to be happening nonetheless. Poll numbers might change a lot in six months.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch, writes..... at March 28, 2012 06:43 AM (sJTmU)
@AllenG, re: Rick Perry.
NO JOKE. Honestly, there were times last election that I didn't think he'd survive over White. Honestly, even for a while after Glenn's ruination of her campaign, I was a Medina supporter.
I think that, were Rick up for re-election, he would have either not run, or would have been "primaried" by a conservative with less baggage and the wisdom to not talk to any national radio hosts that are close friends with an opponent.
I wish there was an AoS-TX Politics Edition somewhere. I wish I had someone outside of my family to really talk about the races we do have this year...
Posted by: reason at March 28, 2012 06:44 AM (kZVsz)
Posted by: Quinnipiac U at March 28, 2012 06:46 AM (J3Ovp)
It might be a good idea to have a more or less general designation of which Governor's have real power, and which states have strong legislatures that pretty much run things.
I thought that was the case in Missouri, with previous Govs like Ashcroft and the late Mel Carnahan both being popular, while being almost complete opposites. I don't live that far away, but I never hear anything about Jay Nixon, if anything comes out of Jeff City it's about what the legislature is doing.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2012 06:49 AM (TOk1P)
I think the second one is more likely. Honestly, though, I think Rick would win a Republican Primary (it's not the Republicans who are upset with him), but would barely lose in a State-Wide race (maybe- at the very least, he'd have to campaign harder than he did in either of the last two elections).
The only State-wide race I can think of this year is the Senate Race (Tom Leppert, Ted Cruz, David Dewhurst, maybe someone else?). I don't like any of them. Ted Cruz seems to have a lot of conservative support, so I might be able to vote for him, but David Dewhurst is too moderate for me (and a lawyer), and Tom Leppert was Liberal enough to be elected in Dallas. Ted Cruz is also a lawyer, and has never held elective office, though, so he's a bit of an enigma. I don't like electing enigmas to the Senate. They're there far too long to gamble, IMO.
I think it's a given that whoever win the Primary wins the General, though, and should be infinitely better than whoever the Democrats nominate, so I'm fairly sanguine, there.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 06:50 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 28, 2012 06:52 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: maddogg at March 28, 2012 06:52 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: CAC at March 28, 2012 06:56 AM (C3KwS)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 28, 2012 06:56 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 28, 2012 06:58 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: Greg at March 28, 2012 06:59 AM (J3Ovp)
I don't believe that there has ever been a reelection of a sitting President that was accompanied by the opposition party flipping one of the houses of Congress.
If Obama is reelected, he will also hold the Senate. The only way he can win is through severely depressing the GOP and independents while turning out 100% of the Dem base. In that case, they will also win all the Senate races.
What you are seeing is Santorum people (and vice versa) pissed because people aren't voting for their guy. Once there is a consolidation around a candidate, then these polls will flip. Also remember, all the advertising running right now is negative against one of the GOP candidates. No one is running against Obama, so Obama's negatives are self inflicted.
It is very very telling that Obama doesn't break 50% in any of those polls.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 28, 2012 07:00 AM (j+DX4)
Posted by: rickl at March 28, 2012 07:01 AM (zoehZ)
There are essentially two ways spelled out in the Constitution for how to propose an amendment. One has never been used.
The first method is for a bill to pass both houses of the legislature, by a two-thirds majority in each. Once the bill has passed both houses, it goes on to the states. This is the route taken by all current amendments. Because of some long outstanding amendments, such as the 27th, Congress will normally put a time limit (typically seven years) for the bill to be approved as an amendment (for example, see the 21st and 22nd).
The second method prescribed is for a Constitutional Convention to be called by two-thirds of the legislatures of the States, and for that Convention to propose one or more amendments. These amendments are then sent to the states to be approved by three-fourths of the legislatures or conventions. This route has never been taken, and there is discussion in political science circles about just how such a convention would be convened, and what kind of changes it would bring about.
In either case, 38 state legislatures or state conventions are needed to pass an Amendment. So 34 R governors is a good start but not enough -- if we assume that the Ds would vigorously oppose change (a safe bet imho). Note that going the Convention route dodges both the Pres and the Congress entirely. They would have to stand around holding their impotent dicks and mewling like newborns on an empty titty.
Oh, and good morning all.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 28, 2012 07:01 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: polynikes at March 28, 2012 07:02 AM (HzcmT)
Posted by: rdbrewer at March 28, 2012 07:03 AM (Iyg03)
Posted by: rickl at March 28, 2012 11:01 AM (zoehZ)
You do realize that Chicxulub is another "concensus" determination? There are some noted paleonologists who aren't buying the asteroid theory.
Posted by: maddogg at March 28, 2012 07:05 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Sub-Tard at March 28, 2012 07:05 AM (ursbV)
Clinton got re-elected while the House and Senate stayed R, but he had Perot helping him.
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 28, 2012 07:05 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 07:05 AM (UpwlP)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 28, 2012 07:06 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 28, 2012 07:06 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: San Antonio Rose at March 28, 2012 07:07 AM (rtvsq)
6661Actually, the Permian mass extinction was worse than the one caused by Chicxulub.Posted by: rickl at March 28, 2012 11:01 AM (zoehZ) You do realize that Chicxulub is another "concensus" determination? There are some noted paleonologists who aren't buying the asteroid theory.
It was all caused by an increase in gravity. Shit falls from the sky and excessively large animals are crushed by their own weight.
Posted by: Sub-Tard at March 28, 2012 07:07 AM (ursbV)
Yeah, because Glenn was completely wrong about Van Jones and other stuff too. You know, it wouldn't hurt to be prepared if he's right about the topics you're mocking him over.
Posted by: Spock grocks Glocks, say it 3X fast at March 28, 2012 07:07 AM (jj2g1)
I'm trying to find if FDR lost the House or Senate during one of his reelection years, but it looks like he lost both houses during a midterm.
Surprisingly hard to find results from back then.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 28, 2012 07:07 AM (j+DX4)
Woodrow Wilson, 1916. House flipped to Republicans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at March 28, 2012 07:08 AM (ZKzrr)
http://www.timnerenz.com/2012/03/farm-animals.html
Posted by: mama winger at March 28, 2012 07:08 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 28, 2012 07:09 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at March 28, 2012 07:09 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 28, 2012 07:09 AM (j+DX4)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 28, 2012 07:09 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: San Antonio Rose at March 28, 2012 07:11 AM (rtvsq)
( Hence, W. Gamaliel Harding in 1920 )
Bull Moose, my ass.
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 28, 2012 07:11 AM (Dll6b)
On the Ted Cruz stuff- he did "defend X, Y, and Z" from "liberals" In court. At the direction of State AG Gregg Abbott. He did so quite ably, apparently, and even argued at least one case in front of SCOTUS. But that doesn't say anything (to me) about his personal positions.
Michael Williams (the RR Commissioner) decided to run for Congress in one of the new districts (happens to be the one I'll be in). He's running, in the primary, against Roger Williams- former Sec State of Texas. As far as that goes, I'm just as undecided about my Rep race as the Senate race- but the other way: I know they'll both be good- I'm trying to figure out which one is better.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 07:12 AM (8y9MW)
Like the last time when gas prices spiked, the people living on the edge will go over. A new wave of foreclosures has to be in the works right now.
Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 07:13 AM (UpwlP)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at March 28, 2012 07:13 AM (QTHTd)
"I think it's a given that whoever win the Primary wins the General, though, and should be infinitely better than whoever the Democrats nominate, so I'm fairly sanguine, there."
Jussa you wait until I unveil my FABOOLUS PLAN for Nationalized Hair Care!
Posted by: Farouk Chamois at March 28, 2012 07:13 AM (kZVsz)
I think I'll take those odds.
So to rephrase: No sitting president since Woodrow Wilson has won reelection while losing one of the chambers to the opposition party.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 28, 2012 07:14 AM (j+DX4)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at March 28, 2012 07:15 AM (Dll6b)
A trend is a trend, until it's not. Up until the last election, the House has never changed hands without the Senate also changing.
Posted by: Barry Soetoro at March 28, 2012 07:15 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at March 28, 2012 07:15 AM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 07:15 AM (UpwlP)
Posted by: toby928© at March 28, 2012 07:17 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 28, 2012 07:17 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: San Antonio Rose at March 28, 2012 07:17 AM (rtvsq)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at March 28, 2012 07:18 AM (QTHTd)
Posted by: SECRET GUY WHO IS TOTALLY NOT GREG at March 28, 2012 07:20 AM (pNjSx)
Re: the puppy story - I'm not seeing it on the usual Wisconsin conservative sites I follow. I'll listen to Mark Belling's show later this afternoon and see if he mentions it. He stays on top of these things pretty well.
Posted by: mama winger at March 28, 2012 07:22 AM (P6QsQ)
Our flight out was without incident, except as per usual, I was seated next to a crazy person (not D'oh). Guy introduced himself as "Memphis" and proceeded to talk to himself as we pulled away from the gate and took off.
Sounded exactly like Billy Bob Thornton in Slingblade. "We'll, we're gettin' ready to take off. Mmmpf. Just think. We're ridin' on 360,000 movin' parts. grunt. Here we go. 250 miles per hour. Yessir. *weird noises*"
Sigh.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 28, 2012 07:23 AM (PJ+vx)
"MADISON, Wis. -- The reward to find the person who killed a puppy last month in rural Dane County is growing again.Officials with the Dane County Humane Society said that the reward, called the Animal Protection Fund, is now at $10,000."
http://www.channel3000.com/family/30432219/detail.html
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 28, 2012 07:23 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at March 28, 2012 07:24 AM (QTHTd)
I wouldn't bet too much on bucking that trend.
In other words, if you are betting on opposite results between the presidential election and senate elections, make sure you get good odds.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 28, 2012 07:25 AM (j+DX4)
Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 11:13 AM (UpwlP)
**
I've been on a house hunt, have looked at dozens of houses. About a third are foreclosures. It's sad for me to walk through them, seeing the evidence of a family who had to leave in a hurry, or whose dream just didn't pan out. Although there's a fair representation of homes on the market due to divorce, and that's even sadder, especially when it's obvious little children are affected.
But I do have an offer in on a short sale, we'll see what happens.
(referenced homes are in suburbia, not in a marginal neighborhood. Those areas are in a meltdown.)
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2012 07:25 AM (jm/9g)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 28, 2012 07:26 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: Gayos4U (greg) at March 28, 2012 07:26 AM (tpTYM)
So, let's see, Romney has never polled well vs Obama in Florida or Ohio, and somehow by magic, this is going to turn around before November.
Posted by: ramrod at March 28, 2012 11:20 AM (pNjSx)
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I know an anecdote is not necessarily evidence, but ... my 94 year-old grandmother (a life long Democrat that happily voted for FDR all four times) can't wait to cast a vote for whoever the Republican nominee is. She happens to live in Ohio, too.
->I think anyone can beat Obama or no one can. It all depends if a majority of the American people want more of what Obama has been peddling for the last four years.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at March 28, 2012 07:26 AM (M0NzJ)
Nice to see the other TX members of the horde know just as little about the "not-Dewhurt, not-Leppert" candidates as I do.
I haven't heard any opposition / attack against Cruz, which says that either there's nothing to criticize because he's awesome, or there's nothing to criticize because there's no track record at all. Seems like it's the later.
Maybe once the Trayvon stuff settles down, then the local talk-radio guys will put some serious time into these candidates.
I think there are some state-level rep races, too.
Posted by: Farouk Chamois at March 28, 2012 07:27 AM (F26eZ)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 28, 2012 07:27 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: polynikes at March 28, 2012 07:29 AM (HzcmT)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 28, 2012 07:30 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 28, 2012 07:30 AM (jUytm)
He's got Jim DeMint's endorsement- which isn't nothing. And Rick Perry "speaks" highly of him in Fed Up! I'll probably end up voting for him over Leppert/Dewhurst simply because he can't be any worse than them (and still be a Republican in Texas).
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 07:32 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 28, 2012 07:32 AM (qx7YW)
That would be former State Legislator Marco Rubio? Who, you know, had a voting record?
I don't know about Cruz because there's nothing to know. He has no legislative record, and his political position (Solicitor General) was one in which he was a (high profile, highly competent) worker-bee. The Gov. and/or AG gave him his marching orders and he followed them.
You'll excuse me if I (who engage in argumentation fairly often) am not persuaded that he actually believes what he says, just because he was getting paid to say it.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 07:34 AM (8y9MW)
Yeah, and he's got my (tentative, at least) support. But he's still a lawyer, and I don't like electing people to a 6 year term who have no legislative/voting record that I can use to examine their beliefs.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 07:36 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 28, 2012 10:25 AM (PJ+vx)
................................
how yall doing out there? dont take any woodin nickels........
Posted by: Racefan at March 28, 2012 07:37 AM (phhAi)
1858, 1874, 1882, 1888, 1890, 1910, 1916, 1930....
Admittedly, there were actual regional third-party candidates in the 19th century.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at March 28, 2012 07:37 AM (ZKzrr)
I live in TX, and consider myself disappointingly lacking in my "up-ness" on state-level politics. I and the missus have been getting our kicks at the city-level for the last couple years.
Posted by: reason at March 28, 2012 07:37 AM (q/kmn)
Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 07:38 AM (UpwlP)
http://tinyurl.com/cezls58
These are the insider assholes who run DC.
Posted by: Hedgehog at March 28, 2012 07:38 AM (3jGS1)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at March 28, 2012 07:41 AM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 07:43 AM (UpwlP)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 28, 2012 07:43 AM (mFxQX)
So Sphincter is into pron? And who uses the term a pornographic movie queen? I do declare that you look like one of them hussies you see on the moving pictures
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2012 07:45 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: mama winger at March 28, 2012 07:46 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at March 28, 2012 07:46 AM (QTHTd)
I was watching when it was first spotted this morning! So exciting! Two hatched, one to go.
Posted by: mama winger at March 28, 2012 07:47 AM (P6QsQ)
The Republicans held both houses before and after the election. I'm going to go check 1916 now but as far as the others, anything before 1913 is a different animal since Senators were not universally elected.
I should have noted that.
Posted by: toby928© at March 28, 2012 07:47 AM (GTbGH)
Ha , the lady on FOX pushing the merits of pink slime.
Can you imagine the howls of outrage had the Bush administration approved pink slime?
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 28, 2012 07:48 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 28, 2012 07:49 AM (jUytm)
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Jay Nixon (D) isnt your typical rabbid lefty progressive. You could think of him as a Zel Miller / Joe Liberman type of Democrat. Rurally oriented. Served hot dogs and burgers at is inauguration.
Was very very angry at Washington recently because his request for federal assistance for the storms in Branson was denied. I might consider crossing over and voting for him this go round.
On the other hand, McCaskill, (D) senator from Missouri.... HAS been infected with rabid DC progressive-ism and will be kicked to the curb this fall.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2012 07:49 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: toby928© at March 28, 2012 07:51 AM (GTbGH)
We're just on a slower roll to socialism under R's than we are with D's.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 28, 2012 07:52 AM (UK9cE)
Jay Nixon (D) isnt your typical rabbid lefty progressive
Then why does he run as a Demo? Personally I will not vote for any fucking Demo unless he/she is a former Demo. But that's just me
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 28, 2012 07:53 AM (mFxQX)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 28, 2012 07:56 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: mama winger at March 28, 2012 07:57 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: mama winger at March 28, 2012 07:59 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 28, 2012 08:06 AM (BatdI)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 28, 2012 12:06 PM (BatdI)
I thought that was the plan all along.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 28, 2012 08:09 AM (YEelc)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 28, 2012 08:12 AM (BatdI)
@143
Because it pulls in KC and STL city votes who won't vote (R) even if God himself ran on that ticket. In this case though, Nixon gets to run on his storm damage response. Missouri's kinda wierd actually. We have to many actual problems (floods, tornados, etc.) for any progressive dem to get very far on his agenda.
Posted by: tsrblke at March 28, 2012 08:16 AM (SYrwI)
Quinnapac crosstabs for that Florida Poll:
PARTY IDENTIFICATION
Republican 29% 390
Democrat 33% 371
Independent 33% 407
Other/DK/NA 5% 60
Posted by: toby928© at March 28, 2012 08:27 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Have Blue at March 28, 2012 08:46 AM (0dPUM)
Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2012 10:23 AM (7W3wI)
The one and only time I ever voted for a Dem, it was for Jay Nixon when he ran for Atty. General for the first time. He ran as a fire and brimstone, law and order kind of guy and I was too young to have sufficiently built up my cynicism levels.
The legislature passed a law that state funds couldn't go to Planned Parenthood and the state was sued by the abortionists. The plaintiffs venue shopped and got a liberal judge in S. StL to go along with their idea and Jay Nixon refused to appeal the ruling, forcing me to pay for abortions with my tax dollars.
I'll die before I vote for another Dem.
Posted by: someone at March 28, 2012 12:05 PM (uDAyD)
Rob McKenna - the state AG - is running against former Congressman Jay Inslee. To say the Ds aren't happy with Inslee would be an understatement. They cleared the deck, no primary and now they're stuck with him.
The ruling on Obamacare will play directly into the race as McKenna - over the objections of Gregoire and every other Democrat in the state - joined the Florida lawsuit.
Whether Obama wins or not won't have any effect on us out here. Republicans will turn out to vote in the governor's race. We haven't had an R governor since 1984, and we can taste it this time.
It's Rob's race to lose, and I'd be very surprised if he does.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at March 28, 2012 03:32 PM (dM1NM)
If your officer's dead and the sergeants look white,
Remember it's ruin to run from a fight:
So take open order, lie down, and sit tight,
And wait for supports like a soldier.
Wait, wait, wait like a soldier . . .
When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
So-oldier of the Queen!
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 29, 2012 09:19 AM (NVu2l)
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Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 06:13 AM (8y9MW)