October 10, 2012
— CAC Poll links developing.
Horrible, horrible news for Romney out of Pennsylvania. After trailing the President by double-digits pre-debate, Romney is now in the awful, no-good, ugly position of trailing him by 5, 46%-51%, in the latest Rasmussen poll. This on the heels of the awful Susquehanna and Sienna polls that have already narrowed the race there.
EVEN WORSE for Republicans, Tom Smith in Pennsylvania is now in an M.O.E. fight with Senator Bob Casey, trailing him 46-44 in the latest Susquehanna poll.
Horrible, awful, terrible numbers.
Clearly no bounce.
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Posted by: cheese at October 10, 2012 07:44 AM (i3OIF)
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Posted by: fluffy at October 10, 2012 07:45 AM (z9HTb)
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Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 07:47 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 10, 2012 07:47 AM (98+n7)
Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 07:48 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Gerg at October 10, 2012 07:48 AM (VrVBw)
Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 07:48 AM (MzQOZ)
If you want good sarcasm head over to Little Green Footballs. Ask for chuck.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 10, 2012 07:49 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Honey Badger at October 10, 2012 07:49 AM (GvYeG)
Haven't seen Greg here in awhile. Maybe he went to cheer up Andy Sullivan with all this good news.
Posted by: JLD at October 10, 2012 07:49 AM (aDkUp)
Posted by: Will Not Whatever the Latest trend is or is not at October 10, 2012 07:49 AM (JaaVD)
We are mocking him.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 10, 2012 07:49 AM (98+n7)
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Obviously, you are new here. We.Don't.Do.Sarcasm.
Posted by: runninrebel at October 10, 2012 11:47 AM (N/1Dm)
19 14 - It is an unusual day when we aren't being sarcastic.Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 10, 2012 11:47 AM (98+n7)
Someone isn't being truthful.
Posted by: huerfano at October 10, 2012 07:49 AM (bAGA/)
But Intrade has Obama up by 20%!!!!!!!!
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Looking at tbe comments I suspect its a bunch of campaign staff trying to skew the price. It should be at 50/50 at this point. If I was positive of that I'd go in and short sell a bunch of shares for Obingo and take some of the campaign cash. But I'm not positive, and Intrade won't take my card anyway.
Posted by: Up with people! A man. at October 10, 2012 07:50 AM (kzFo5)
Posted by: fluffy at October 10, 2012 07:50 AM (z9HTb)
I can't tell you guys what a superb campaign Tom Smith has run. I actually gave him money a few months ago and probably will again. His TV ads are wonderful and are running in heavy rotation in Philly. His events are well produced and his direct mail is snappy and eye-catching. He put out a jobs plan and also says he will introduce a bill to cut Senators' pay if they fail to produce a budget. Just a textbook campaign. It reminds me very much of the campaign Mitch McConnell ran ages ago in his first race, when he tagged the incumbent Senator as a do-nothing chair-warmer. (I'm a native Kentuckian so I followed that race closely.) McConnell was the only Republican that defeated an incumbent Democrat that year.
Posted by: rockmom at October 10, 2012 07:50 AM (qE3AR)
As I like to say, "if my lips are moving, I'm being sarcastic".
Posted by: Mama AJ at October 10, 2012 07:50 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Steven at October 10, 2012 07:50 AM (4z/Oq)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 07:50 AM (jUytm)
look, I'm in SEPA, one of the all-important collar counties. Not only am I seeing minimal representation of preazy support around here, I'm seeing emphatic Anti-obama signage. Such as a remorse voter who took their lawn sign from 2008 and amended it to NOBAMA, UNBIDEN. Such as signs reading: FREE AMERICA< FIRE OBAMA.
I'm in Delco, not predicting the GOP will get my county. But these counties went big for preazy four years ago and this year I'm not feeling the love. Chesco and Bucks are more likely to go GOP.
Posted by: kallisto at October 10, 2012 07:50 AM (jm/9g)
Cause I didn't get those. How many electoral votes does Poland get this year?
Posted by: eleven at October 10, 2012 07:50 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: wahiggle at October 10, 2012 07:50 AM (QXiRr)
Bad habit
14 - WE ARE BEING TOTALLY SERIOUS, THIS RACE IS FUCKING OVER, OBAMA WILL WIN 895 ELECTORAL VOTES
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 10, 2012 07:51 AM (98+n7)
CAC...that 5 points is down from 12 points just two weeks ago...that is a 7 point drop for Obama...LOL!! Love it and I trust the Siena/Seq polls better in PA then Ras only because both are based in PA....but nonetheless....from 12 to 5 is OUTSTANDING and again when Ras does not poll on a Sunday (this past Sunday was Holiday Sunday before Columbus Day) he gets a more accurate lay of the land. Reps are never around Sundays....especially Holiday Sundays...Reps/Conservatives are out and about...but nonetheless.....Great News for Mitt....a 7 point drop in two weeks is impressive. It will be interesting to see if Mitt goes into PA big??? This is moving towards him and OBAMA is going to have to defend PA turf! The closer these polls come in PA from 2-5 points down from 7-12 Obama will have to defend especially if Mitt goes in there!
Great News for Senator Smith in PA....He was on Mark Levin the week before last and he was outstanding...HE IS TOTALLY SELF FINANCING his campaign....WOW...putting his own money where his mouth is! Down only 2....I would imagine more likely tied or up 2 in PA!
Mitt is there in Ohio...lets see if he makes a move into PA....I would love to see it!
Posted by: bluerose75 at October 10, 2012 07:51 AM (HDcKc)
a) Hawt.
b) I don't see that one getting out of a Dem-led committee, though.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 10, 2012 07:51 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: lorien1973 at October 10, 2012 07:52 AM (mcWHD)
Posted by: huerfano at October 10, 2012 11:49 AM (bAGA/)
BOTH are being truthful.
My research indicates they work for the State Department and the Administration.
Posted by: jwb7605 (working and lurking) at October 10, 2012 07:52 AM (+KHIt)
Posted by: rockmom at October 10, 2012 07:52 AM (NYnoe)
Polls & GOTV Fun Fact:
The guy who runs Susquehanna Polling, Jimmy Lee, is the guy I replaced on my local county GOP Committee.
Developing....
Posted by: CJ at October 10, 2012 07:52 AM (9KqcB)
The red pixel ration has increased from 20 to 15 pixels per post.
Posted by: Mama AJ, Pixel Czar at October 10, 2012 07:53 AM (SUKHu)
Hermione - "But house trolls are people too and should have rights and stuff!"
Hmmm....interesting point. However, you're now old enough for me to tell you to shutup and open wide.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 07:53 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: eleven at October 10, 2012 07:53 AM (KXm42)
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Posted by: Love Reggie at October 10, 2012 07:54 AM (JMt7S)
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Posted by: docj at October 10, 2012 07:54 AM (A5uiv)
Posted by: Honey Badger at October 10, 2012 07:54 AM (GvYeG)
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 10, 2012 07:54 AM (JxMoP)
Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 07:55 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 10, 2012 07:55 AM (nUH8H)
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at October 10, 2012 07:55 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: rockmom at October 10, 2012 07:55 AM (NYnoe)
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 10, 2012 07:55 AM (tOkJB)
Posted by: mpfs at October 10, 2012 07:56 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 10, 2012 07:56 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: t-bird at October 10, 2012 07:56 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Up up with people! at October 10, 2012 07:56 AM (kzFo5)
Just google "louisiana congressional districts".
Posted by: Mama AJ, NW Louisiana at October 10, 2012 07:56 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: stace at October 10, 2012 07:56 AM (ugBjy)
Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 07:57 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 07:57 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 10, 2012 07:58 AM (Dnbau)
10 -
That's a great question, just where IS Sarah Palin these days? What is Sarah Palin doing with her time? How does Sarah Palin feel about the latest poll results?
If there's one thing I think we can all agree on, it's that Sarah Palin's name just doesn't seem to come up as much as it has in the past.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2012 07:58 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 10, 2012 07:58 AM (nUH8H)
Posted by: BitterClingy&Buried at October 10, 2012 07:58 AM (encrR)
Posted by: t-bird at October 10, 2012 07:58 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: rockmom at October 10, 2012 07:58 AM (NYnoe)
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that he disappeared immediately after saying "we want to raise your taxes by $1 trillion"
Posted by: lorien1973 at October 10, 2012 07:59 AM (mcWHD)
Not there yet?
Several Morons are happy to assist.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 10, 2012 07:59 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 10, 2012 07:59 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 07:59 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 07:59 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: mpfs at October 10, 2012 07:59 AM (iYbLN)
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... actually, Akin is inside the margin of error..... I still loathe him for not stepping aside, but if he STILL unseats McCackle.......
Posted by: fixerupper at October 10, 2012 07:59 AM (C8hzL)
I keep suggesting that they should define a honest-to-goodness "sarc" style, but we can't even get the comments to work some days.
So I don't push it.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 10, 2012 08:00 AM (4+LTj)
She's just trolling for clicks, right? She's not really that stupid, is she? And why does Reynolds give her so much love on his blog?
Posted by: not the mama at October 10, 2012 08:00 AM (kzCIn)
Posted by: kbdabear at October 10, 2012 08:00 AM (wwsoB)
@55
What? I work for one hour straight without checking here and I missed Greg's return? I'll have to check it out to see if he's gloating, shrieking like a madman, or crying like a baby. Could be any of them.
Posted by: JLD at October 10, 2012 08:00 AM (aDkUp)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 10, 2012 08:00 AM (HNwOT)
Have you seen the pic of her backstage at DWTS? Politics be damned, I'd like to........
*cough cough*
.....sorry. Got a little carried away there for a second.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 08:00 AM (da5Wo)
tee hee. go ahead greg, put some more cream on your oatmeal. ewww.
Posted by: mallfly at October 10, 2012 08:00 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: AmishDude at October 10, 2012 08:01 AM (T0NGe)
Yeah, his first day would be awkward, wouldn't it?
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 10, 2012 08:01 AM (4+LTj)
Oh Puhleeeze don't walk away. I caaaan't helllllp it.
::real tears:::
Posted by: eleven at October 10, 2012 08:02 AM (KXm42)
No. Yes. Third base.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 10, 2012 08:02 AM (4+LTj)
Is Ryan's expression of support for Stacy Dash the nail in the coffin for the Romney campaign?
http://tinyurl.com/9c6sflq
Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 08:02 AM (jx2j9)
The lawyer fraternity. The legal profession is so incestuous, they don't realize how intellectually limited they are.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 10, 2012 08:02 AM (T0NGe)
So Bo is Toto, Biden is the Scarecrow ...
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 10, 2012 08:02 AM (4+LTj)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 08:02 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: Bosk at October 10, 2012 08:02 AM (n2K+4)
Dick Morris (I know, I know) has a theory that Obama is about to spring an October surprise; a deal with Iran to temporarily stop uranium enrichment in return for a lowering of the sanctions which are finally crippling Iran and causing hyperinflation.
Iran will of course have more flexibility to ramp up again as soon as it has helped Obama get elected, as it prefers a Shia in the Presidency to a Mormon. (I have long held that Obama is Shia, as is Iran, Assad and Hezbollah).
Iran got Reagan elected, this type of thing is not new for them.
If you look around the ME you will see that Obama has attacked and taken down Sunni as much as possible while leaving Shia alone as much as possible.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 10, 2012 08:03 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 10, 2012 08:03 AM (HNwOT)
I don't think Biden will do all that poorly. However, I think immediately after the debate, in the next 2-3 days he'll be a gaffe machine again
I said it the other day, when his back is against the wall, he performs. He only becomes an idiot when he thinks he's among people who already think like him.
You know....idiots, mouth-breathers, knuckle-draggers, first generation of the family to walk upright....
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 10, 2012 08:03 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Chris P at October 10, 2012 08:03 AM (LuvqF)
Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 08:03 AM (fWAjv)
#48 Liberal media people tend to discount Susquehanna polling for that reason, the CEO is a big Republican. The Siena and Rasmussen polls are considered more accurate.
To be honest, I hadn't seen Susq on the national stage as much before. In PA he's considered to be reliable.
Posted by: CJ at October 10, 2012 08:04 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: joncelli at October 10, 2012 08:04 AM (RD7QR)
watch it. i resemble that remark
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 10, 2012 08:04 AM (HNwOT)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 10, 2012 08:05 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at October 10, 2012 08:05 AM (GBXon)
http://tinyurl.com/8z59b3v
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 10, 2012 08:05 AM (f9c2L)
And? The American people don't care about foreign policy unless there are deaths involved. They EXPECT peace. If Obama made a big deal about that, he might as well announce at the next debate that he made a poopie.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 10, 2012 08:06 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 08:06 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Steven at October 10, 2012 11:50 AM
Here in MA, a hack Democrat named Tierney is using the Tea Party label, complete with images of Limbaugh, Palin and Teh Noot to smear ghey Repub Richard Tisei the same way.
Seems that the closer we get to election day, the stronger the attack ads are. Funny that no one seems to want to mention reasons they might actually do a better job.
Tierney can't. His family criminal connections are getting the buzz.
Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at October 10, 2012 08:07 AM (ZgX/g)
Posted by: jakeman at October 10, 2012 08:07 AM (96M6e)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at October 10, 2012 08:08 AM (9eDbm)
She's just trolling for clicks, right? She's not really that stupid, is she? And why does Reynolds give her so much love on his blog?
Posted by: not the mama at October 10, 2012 12:00 PM (kzCIn)
Althouse will look for any excuse possible to vote for her sex fantasy in the white house again. She cannot concede how terrible he is or else she won't be able to lie to herself that she is not voting based purely on her liberal emotional feelings.
Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at October 10, 2012 08:08 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: Snoop Dogg's Index Finger at October 10, 2012 08:08 AM (Mj4Zt)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 10, 2012 08:08 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:08 AM (r2PLg)
Dick Morris (I know, I know) has a theory that Obama is about to spring an October surprise; a deal with Iran to temporarilystop uranium enrichment in return for a lowering of the sanctions which are finally crippling Iran and causing hyperinflation.
I don't really understand how this would boost his campaign. Distract the press, certainly. Affect the voters, not seeing it since the major issue is and always has been the crappy economy.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 10, 2012 08:09 AM (JxMoP)
See you on the high ground, Sergeant Major...
Posted by: Country Singer (likes teh ginger ladies) at October 10, 2012 08:09 AM (L8r/r)
Nate Silver's statistical virtuosity proves too much for Romney campaign:
http://tinyurl.com/9etcfv7
Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 08:09 AM (jx2j9)
watch it. i resemble that remark
She's a law professor. What do you need to do to be a law professor? Graduate from law school. What characterizes law school? No math, no dissertation (seriously, a professor who doesn't write a dissertation), we don't even have an immigration program designed to import lawyers from overseas.
You think Ann could get a Ph.D. in physics?
You think any Ph.D. physicist (whose native language is English) would have any problem with law school?
There's a reason the SCOAMF graduated with honors from Harvard Law and I think it taints the whole profession.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 10, 2012 08:09 AM (T0NGe)
118 -
Biden has always been good at the job of being a Senator, which presumably includes debates, although I haven't seen him do one. Being a Senator means you have talking points at your disposal, you get to look Senatorial in hearings, and every six years you have to go back home and act like you actually have some connection to the state that keeps sending you back to Washington.
I think if the questions become about the last four years, he's in trouble, but if the moderator can keep Joe at a slow hum, doing the Senatorial shuffle, he might do fine.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2012 08:10 AM (TOk1P)
Fraud academic.
Posted by: eleven at October 10, 2012 08:10 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:10 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 08:10 AM (ck76k)
We need to determine an over/under for how many times Biden says Big Bird in the Debate.
Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at October 10, 2012 08:11 AM (GULKT)
The rally around the flag effect perhaps.
Perhaps, but that typically only happens with some sort of military conflict.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 10, 2012 08:12 AM (JxMoP)
Posted by: jakeman at October 10, 2012 08:12 AM (96M6e)
Posted by: Redd at October 10, 2012 08:12 AM (guxHP)
My dad grew up in Derry. I grew up in North Hills right outside Pittsburgh. Westmoreland County in particular has swung hard right in the past decade. But if this is spreading to Allegheny County, then a whole lot of things are getting shaken up.
Posted by: Chris P at October 10, 2012 08:12 AM (LuvqF)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 08:13 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 10, 2012 08:13 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: t-bird at October 10, 2012 08:13 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: CAC at October 10, 2012 08:13 AM (1MGSH)
mostly because Germany feared job losses
Posted by: Lord of War at October 10, 2012 08:13 AM (e8kgV)
http://tinyurl.com/9ja7wx8
Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 11:55 AM (jx2j9)
Just keep running it Barry, keep running it. And mention it at every campaign stop too
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 10, 2012 08:13 AM (1Jaio)
Interesting that the Rolling Stone guy is saying polls should not be published (see the Wednesday news dump). Funny, four years ago when the polls were, in truth, really bad for W, these folks didn't have any problem with having them trumpeted every day.
I don't like the favoritism of these hacks, but it's the sheer chutzpah of their hypocrisy that really makes them loathsome scumada.
Posted by: RM at October 10, 2012 08:13 AM (TRsME)
Posted by: voter fraud at October 10, 2012 08:14 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 10, 2012 11:59 AM (Dnbau)
Search 'There are Two Paths' on YouTube. Two paths is a reference to a speech Breitbart made before his passing.
Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 08:14 AM (jx2j9)
See, that's where Biden is probably smarter than TFG, he won't mention it. He knows it's a loser.
That Obama commercial about Big Bird was really proof that his campaign is actually being run, not by David Axelrod, but by 28 year-old hipster douchebags who think they have their finger on the pulse of America.
Good news for Obama: he has the hipster douchebag vote locked up.
Bad news for Obama: hipster douchebags don't vote.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 10, 2012 08:14 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 10, 2012 08:15 AM (Dnbau)
I made the same complaint about our ex-senator, and the GOP chair dumped all over me. Voters retired the senator.
There must be tasteful ways of bragging about pork...just don't get in the taxpayers' face about it.
Posted by: jeanne at October 10, 2012 08:15 AM (GdalM)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 08:15 AM (ck76k)
97 So in Althouse's latest post on Instapundit she says "I did not think Obama did such a bad job at the debate."She's just trolling for clicks, right? She's not really that stupid, is she? And why does Reynolds give her so much love on his blog?
Posted by: not the mama at October 10, 2012 12:00 PM (kzCIn)
Althouse will look for any excuse possible to vote for her sex fantasy in the white house again. She cannot concede how terrible he is or else she won't be able to lie to herself that she is not voting based purely on her liberal emotional feelings.
Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at October 10, 2012 12:08 PM (GULKT)
Either that, or she doesn't think Obama did as poorly as prevailing wisdom dictates.
Posted by: CJ at October 10, 2012 08:15 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 08:16 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Baldy at October 10, 2012 08:16 AM (opS9C)
Once the debates are over the real polling will show just how far behind Romney really is.
On top of that the Economy is roaring back to life. Last month unemployment dropped from 8.3 to 7.8 % in one month! That's the result of President Obama's amazing policies that have saved created or found 1 million (114K created + 885 found) last month.
Unemployment hasn't been this low since Obama took office, This is proof that he has brought this terrible economy that Bush handed him back to where it was when he he took office. Obama is america's real Come Back team. But just because we are back where we started when He took office, does not mean we want to return to the policies of the past. Americans are too smart to fall for republican lies and empty promises. As our great president Obama has said, we tried their plan and we tried Obama's and only Obama's was able to get us back where we started. But the work isnt done and we need 4 more years to fix this 3 year proposition and the American people who love Barack Obama the Patriot will give him that chance!
And please stop using the excuse that Unemployement dropped because people left the work force, of course people leave the workforce, a lot of people have retired and died or gotten cancer and cant work thanks to corporations like Bain which was run by Mitt Romney.
In addition, with still legal abortion the kids arent popping out as fast as they used to so a lower workforce is to be accepted. Ofcourse I am sure that if Romney gets into office, woman will be strapped into pens like cattle and turned into baby machnes so that the republicans can pump out more slave labor to fund their war machine.
Next months unemployment numbers will drop again and will be pretty close to 6%. When that stunning news drops the Friday before the election, its going to be over for Romney.
The bounce from Romney's Debate lies should dissipate starting today. President Obama was just too much of a gentleman to call Romney out at the debate because Like Lincoln, Obama is an Honest man and confronting the lies of a lying divisive rapscallion and bamboozler is foreign to him.
But our president is a quick study. He took office 4 years ago with no experience and here he is now running the free world where al quaida is on its heels, bin laden is dead and GM is alive and Recovery summer is here and the american people love him for saving america and restoring her place in the world as a member nation of the collective. No longer the Bully nation.
Thursday night when our great Vice President Biden who like President Obama is a wonderful orator and one of the most adept and clever debaters in Washington tears that thin skinned light on the facts and figures Ryan apart, America will see that the Wannabe emperor has no clothes and the campaign that focused on big bird and insulted our allies over seas will be history.
By Monday of next week Obama will be back at 54% even with these faulty republican oversampling polls.
Besides polls don't matter.
Posted by: Greg at October 10, 2012 08:16 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 12:15 PM (ck76k)
Exactly. SW PA is trending GOP, while SE PA is treanding the other way.
Posted by: CJ at October 10, 2012 08:16 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:16 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 10, 2012 12:00 PM (HNwOT)
[Begin buzzkill] We need to rein in the anticipation. The bar for Slow Joe is set microscopically far from the ground, and Ryan could have stage fright or something. We shouldn't celebrate victory before kickoff. [End buzzkill]
Posted by: joncelli at October 10, 2012 08:17 AM (RD7QR)
OK, CAC, start compiling these into single posts, please. Different states' polls, over and over, is not a good blogging format, especially when they come within minutes of each other. Yesterday was funny, but it was funny because it had never happened before and was a one-off.
Friendly advice is all.
Posted by: tod von oben at October 10, 2012 08:17 AM (UaxA0)
Posted by: Mr. Spanky at October 10, 2012 08:18 AM (pjO3t)
Posted by: t-bird at October 10, 2012 08:18 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 08:18 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 10, 2012 08:18 AM (BjOUT)
Posted by: ChampionCapua at October 10, 2012 08:18 AM (KZi9D)
Posted by: CJ at October 10, 2012 12:15 PM (9KqcB)
She probably would have been right beside Obama agreeing that he had won the debate. I bet she's really happy she didn't put up a post right after the debate declaring that.
Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at October 10, 2012 08:19 AM (GULKT)
With 40 years of debating experience under his belt, Vice President Joe Biden hunkered down for several days of intensive preparation in his hometown of Wilmington, Del., this week ahead of his duel with Rep. Paul Ryan in Danville, Ky., this Thursday.
The vice president has been studying and watching videos of Ryan's interviews and speeches, and he has read a book co-authored by Ryan and Reps. Eric Cantor and Kevin McCarthy.Biden has held mock debates against Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md.
At the time, Van Hollen predicted Biden would "kick my butt" in the mock debates.
Joey is going to turn it all around for them.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 10, 2012 08:19 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 10, 2012 08:19 AM (i0vBR)
Posted by: Hank Johnson at October 10, 2012 08:19 AM (DGIjM)
Then she didn't watch the CSPAN version with the split screen.
Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 08:19 AM (MzQOZ)
Posted by: t-bird at October 10, 2012 12:13 PM (FcR7P)
Good one! Hope you guys above are right (Amish Dude and Ghost of Lee Atwater, IIRC) and this would be a nothingburger.
Everything else is looking good. It just fits Obama's "Shia lean" over his term, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Hopefully the "Carville Constant" (ITES) will carry the day.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 10, 2012 08:19 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: duck and cover at October 10, 2012 08:19 AM (LpQbZ)
Allegheny County actually stayed in place in 2008 compared to 2004, which is pretty good considering the difference between the two years. The suburban township I grew up in (Ross Township) gave the same result to Bush and McCain to the tenth of a point. I have to wonder what is accounting for the change. Is it that suburbs that lean Republican becoming solidly Republican? Is Obama having real problems in some of the blue-collar neighborhoods in Pittsburgh? Maybe both?
Posted by: Chris P at October 10, 2012 08:19 AM (LuvqF)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 10, 2012 08:20 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: VBJonny at October 10, 2012 08:20 AM (bED4B)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 08:21 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: maddogg at October 10, 2012 08:21 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Rich at October 10, 2012 08:21 AM (pnHKr)
Posted by: Baldy at October 10, 2012 12:16 PM (opS9C)
Who gives you the more negative reaction? Telling liberals you're conservative or telling conservatives you're gay?
Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at October 10, 2012 08:21 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: Ezra Maddow at October 10, 2012 08:22 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Joe being Joe at October 10, 2012 08:22 AM (LpQbZ)
Is Obama having real problems in some of the blue-collar neighborhoods in Pittsburgh? >>>>
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I know for a fact that he's having real problems in the blue collar, ethinic White neighborhoods in Philly. Not enough to overcome the ghetto vote (I denounce myself), but it could affect the overall margin coming out of the city. Obama won the city by 800,000 in 2008.
Posted by: Some guy not from PA at October 10, 2012 08:22 AM (YmPwQ)
Whoa! Whoa, don't go all full-goose-bozo on us here. What about me?!?!?
Posted by: Archbishop Timothy Dolan at October 10, 2012 08:22 AM (sbV1u)
Romney campaign will never be able to overcome the Obama campaign's "well you're a big poopie head" defense of the illegal fundraising revelations:
http://tinyurl.com/9ttwrup
Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 08:22 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 10, 2012 08:23 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: maddogg at October 10, 2012 08:23 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 10, 2012 12:15 PM (Dnbau)
Yes, agreed. The MSM will go nuts pushing it, but that might not work out for them.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 10, 2012 08:23 AM (1Y+hH)
Basically, Pittsburgh has been emptying out for decades and it's a much much smaller middle class city that's now completely dominated by the suburbs.
It's actually a nice place to live. Housing in good neighborhoods is relatively cheap.
But they've still had that residual union mentality even though all the steel mills are gone and the only union members are teachers.
They're all in for the union even though the union is why their grandkids live in Texas.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 10, 2012 08:24 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 08:25 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Meremortal at October 10, 2012 08:25 AM (1Y+hH)
Drudge is flogging the story about Obama attending Martha Raddatz' wedding. LOL. How could Raddatz have failed to disclose this to the Debate Commission? Unbelievable. She's just given the Romney campaign a HUGE battering ram to use if she helps Biden or asks Ryan tougher questions. And even liberals will attack her as being "cowed" by the story if she pulls a Jim Lehrer and just asks general questons and lets the candidates converse.
Nobody is going to lose more in this campaign than the MFM.
Posted by: rockmom at October 10, 2012 08:25 AM (aBlZ1)
He'd have an easier time making the argument that we didn't have security because Obama blew $1.4B on vacations.
Because at least that's a provable fact.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 10, 2012 08:25 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 08:25 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: AmishDude at October 10, 2012 08:26 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: CAC at October 10, 2012 08:26 AM (1MGSH)
It's galling that people can't connect those two dots.
Posted by: eleven at October 10, 2012 08:26 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 10, 2012 08:27 AM (i0vBR)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 10, 2012 08:27 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: maddogg at October 10, 2012 08:28 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 10, 2012 08:28 AM (Dnbau)
I know for a fact that he's havingreal problems in the blue collar, ethinic White neighborhoods in Philly. Not enough to overcome the ghetto vote (I denounce myself), but it could affect the overall margin coming out of the city. Obama won the city by 800,000 in 2008.
Posted by: Some guy not from PA at October 10, 2012 12:22 PM (YmPwQ)
The vast majority of these folks are Catholics. They send their kids to Catholic schools. The new Archbishop in Philly is VERY political and has been outspoken in the media here. The priests are speaking from their pulpits about the contraception mandate and other threats to religious freedom.
Jill Biden did an event in South Philly yesterday and only about 50 people showed up.
Posted by: rockmom at October 10, 2012 08:29 AM (aBlZ1)
Yeah, I think Romney/Ryan (to the extent that they had input) were willing to put up with this crap knowing they'd have an advantage. If you discredit the referee, he can't make a call against you.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 10, 2012 08:30 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Snoop Dogg's Index Finger at October 10, 2012 08:30 AM (Mj4Zt)
Posted by: Red Shirt at October 10, 2012 08:30 AM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Joe being Joe at October 10, 2012 08:30 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Snoop Dogg's Index Finger at October 10, 2012 08:30 AM (Mj4Zt)
Considering she's a native Delawarian (Delawarite?) that's a big f'in' deal.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 10, 2012 08:31 AM (T0NGe)
She said a woman with a Romney sign on her lawn had her house broken into, they stole the electronics, etc, and painted something like "Obama B*tch" on the living room wall.
Posted by: duck and cover at October 10, 2012 12:19 PM (LpQbZ)
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A school bus driver in the Milwaukee suburbs blasted a 12 year old on her bus because the kid's family has a Romney sign in their yard. Told the kid she should have been aborted.
Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 10, 2012 08:31 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 10, 2012 08:31 AM (feFL6)
I mean, it's funny. For me, at least, 2008 was easy. You don't vote for anyone from Chicago.
There is one statistical near-certainty in politics: a Democrat from Cook County is a crook. Hell, a Republican from Cook County isn't much better, but you'd need a microscope to find the line on the chart that says 'Chicago Democrats not guilty of something indictable'.
Then you grab 'Dreams from My Father' and open it to any random page and read for ten minutes, and see if you can get through it without throwing the thing at the wall. It pitches a worldview so completely at odds with my own, and so completely at odds with what I want in a leader, that it was a bit scary.
Then add up everything else, and you've got a very clear NO WAY IN HELL.
Posted by: JEM at October 10, 2012 08:31 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: RWC at October 10, 2012 08:32 AM (fWAjv)
Nobody is going to lose more in this campaign than the MFM.
Posted by: rockmom at October 10, 2012 12:25 PM (aBlZ1)
I'm pretty sure Ifill forgot to mention to the debate commission that she was writing a book about Obama's campaign in 2008 before being picked as the VP moderator.
Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at October 10, 2012 08:33 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: yep at October 10, 2012 08:34 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Baldy at October 10, 2012 08:34 AM (opS9C)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 10, 2012 08:37 AM (i0vBR)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 08:37 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 10, 2012 08:38 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: rockmom at October 10, 2012 12:25 PM (aBlZ1)
Lose?
We Got Nothing Left to Lose Buddy!
Posted by: Andrea Mitchell Mathews StuffinObamaCockInMyMouthopolous at October 10, 2012 08:38 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Baldy at October 10, 2012 08:39 AM (opS9C)
But McCain, Bush, Bush, Dole, Bush I all lost the collar. They lost Montgomery, Bucks, and Delaware. You need to hold Obama's margins down in Montgomery and Delaware Counties, and flip Bucks County.
Sadly, those counties are being filled by Democrats fleeing Philadelphia to live in a GOP haven, where they promptly...continue voting Democrat.
Posted by: CJ at October 10, 2012 08:39 AM (9KqcB)
OK- I went to the Romney local headquarters in my mom's suburb- they would only give one sign, and I had to sig a sheet (as others did) and give ph# address. At McCain headquarters 4 yrs ago, they gave me more than one sign- cant remember how many I got but it was at least 2.
That's a positive sign, uh, indicator. The signs are in demand, and they got your contact info to make sure you vote (not that you weren't going to) and to maybe help get others out.
Posted by: CJ at October 10, 2012 08:41 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at October 10, 2012 08:43 AM (ovpNn)
Rockmom, I live in South Philly and your post was the first that I've heard about Jill Biden being here. Where did she appear at, the Wal Mart?
Anyway, it might be redundant, but many of those Catholics are also trade union members. They haven't gained anything under Zero, and have suffered big unemployment numbers. They also don't like the public sector unions very much...jealousy, I suppose. They may not vote for Romney but they ain't supporting Obama either, no matter what the boss says.
And there's also the walking-around-money thing. If Obama doesn't pay up, the fraud machine goes on union time. Allegedly that's why Sestak and Onorato fell short in 2010, they didn;t greasse the right people. Obama's crew is notroriously tone-deaf, they may think they can skip Philly, but money talks, Obama on the ballot or no.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 10, 2012 08:43 AM (YmPwQ)
OBAMA’S FORMER CLASSMATE: ‘HE TOLD US THAT HIS FATHER WAS AN INDONESIAN KING,‘ THAT ’HE WAS A PRINCE’ & ‘WOULD BE A RULER’
http://tinyurl.com/98w4h69
the blaze"
he was too polite to tell her that he is actually a deity, worshiped in indoensia and among various hawaiian and kenyan tribes
Posted by: undeniablefacts at October 10, 2012 08:45 AM (WR5xI)
"But I am with the other morons that are worried about him showing up drunk and just babbling any nonsense. That's hard to refute."
Isn't that kind of what he did with Palin? As I recall he made a number of assertions that seemed very forceful at the time ("Since everyone with a brain knows 2+2 equals five, it's equally obvious that if you double it, you have 10!") , but later proved to be false. Obviously the MSM squelched it, but I always felt Palin would have really clobbered him if she had forcefully refuted his incorrect assertions ("No, no, Joe, once again you're simply wrong on the facts. 2+2 does not equal 5, it is 4, which makes the rest of your analysis pretty useless.").
Hope I'm correct, but I think Ryan will not let him get away with any of this. If anyone does, Ryan has the correct facts, and I don't think he will be shy about using them to his advantage and not letting Biden demagogue endlessly without contradiction.
Posted by: RM at October 10, 2012 08:46 AM (TRsME)
sounded like an official in the town where this occurred.)
She said a woman with a Romney sign on her lawn had her house broken
into, they stole the electronics, etc, and painted something like
"Obama B*tch" on the living room wall.
Posted by: duck and cover at October 10, 2012 12:19 PM (LpQbZ)
Lets just hope the B isnt backwards.
Posted by: Ashley Todd's Mirror Image B looks fine at October 10, 2012 08:48 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 08:50 AM (ck76k)
*
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Reminds me of that old "Star Trek":
"Brain and brain! What is brain!"
"The power to remove Biden's brain exists right where we are. Restoring it must also be possible!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 10, 2012 08:51 AM (exvgC)
Posted by: Baldy at October 10, 2012 12:16 PM (opS9C)
Maybe they are just as prompt as their Dear Leader is
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 10, 2012 08:55 AM (1Jaio)
Boy, you one stupid fucker.
Posted by: Greg's mom at October 10, 2012 08:57 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Baldy at October 10, 2012 12:34 PM (opS9C)
Thanks for the antedotal. Good stuff. Oh yes, for goodness sake don't mention Lutherans. The horde goes crazy. Bunch of green bean casserole bigots around here!
Posted by: Ammo Dump at October 10, 2012 09:00 AM (YYyqq)
#248 Jill Biden was at an Obama or Democratic Party office with Bob Brady and some other Dem hacks. Very small crowd. She did a little tour of southeastern PA yesterday and today, mostly to buck up the volunteers I think.
I live outside of Doylestown, and the Borough itself is very Democratic. In 2008 it was plastered with Obama signs and there were kids waving signs on the main streetcorners every weekend through October. This year, nothing. They opened an office downtown in an abandoned storefront and put up a bunch of cheesy homemade signs, but I never see anyone in there. Out in the 'burbs, it is heavily Romney/Smith in terms of signs so far. Also in 2008, Patrick Murphy weas the Congressman from Bucks and he was THE first elected Democrat to endorse Obama in the primary. Obama repaid him by visiting Bucks at least three times and spending a lot of money here. We haven't seen even any outside surrogates for Obama this year.
In 2008 the Bucks County GOP just used its main HQ building in Doylestown for phonebanking and sign pickup. This year they have also opened offices in Bristol and Quakertown at both ends of the county. That in itself means much higher enthusiasm.
Posted by: rockmom at October 10, 2012 09:30 AM (NYnoe)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 10, 2012 12:31 PM (feFL6)
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I hadn't even considered that aspect. We've been plagued by foreclosures in my area as well. I wonder where the overextended buyers who had to abandon their homes ended up? Here in Delco they could have just moved to a grittier part of the county. But I'm hoping they hauled ass back to the city.
Posted by: kallisto at October 10, 2012 09:58 AM (jm/9g)
I see Gumby Greg is still trying. Anyone bother to read that crap?
More good news though, this time Ohio. Mandel is tied with Sherrod "I'm an idiot" Brown. Totally unexpected and a sign Ohio is turning. Now if we can get rid of both Brown and Casey that would be the the culmination of a whole lot of work. I hope everyone sends a few bucks to Mandel in Ohio and Smith in PA.
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