June 15, 2012

MSNBC: Asking A President A Question As He Closes Comments Is Racist
— Ace

Uh-huh.

Reich-Wingers Helen Thomas and Sam Donaldson would never interrupt a white president.

The Daily Caller defends the question.

Neil Munro, White House Correspondent: “I always go to the White House prepared with questions for our president. I timed the question believing the president was closing his remarks, because naturally I have no intention of interrupting the President of the United States. I know he rarely takes questions before walking away from the podium. When I asked the question as he finished his speech, he turned his back on the many reporters, and walked away while I and at least one other reporter asked questions.”

Tucker Carlson, Editor-in-Chief: “I don’t remember Diane Sawyer scolding her colleague Sam Donaldson for heckling President Reagan. And she shouldn’t have. A reporter’s job is to ask questions and get answers. Our job is to find out what the federal government is up to. Politicians often don’t want to tell us. A good reporter gets the story. We’re proud of Neil Munro.”

Poison: An argument that Obama's power-grab short-circuits any kind of real solution.


Posted by: Ace at 11:58 AM | Comments (355)
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1 Thread closed - ?

Oh.

Posted by: jeanne at June 15, 2012 12:00 PM (GdalM)

2 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2012 12:00 PM (Xb3hu)

3 Hey!

Posted by: Dang at June 15, 2012 12:00 PM (Ky1+e)

4 Jan Brewer on Cavuto!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 12:00 PM (piMMO)

5 I guess the question is whether or not the President was done with his prepared remarks before the question was asked. Did Donaldson or Thomas interrupt Reagan or Bush prepared remarks? That's the question. I guess. Not that I care all that much. Tempest in a teapot.

Posted by: Fred at June 15, 2012 12:01 PM (xWGQr)

6 Whelp. They went there.

Posted by: Filly at June 15, 2012 12:01 PM (ebG9b)

7 Again,POTUS is not king.He should be treated respectfully but not with undue deference.He works for US.

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2012 12:01 PM (Xb3hu)

8 In the marketplace of ideas, MSNBC is the Qwik-E-Mart.


Posted by: wytshus at June 15, 2012 12:01 PM (u93Ac)

9
MSNKBC?

these dopes belong in North Korea

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 12:01 PM (G/zuv)

10
Remember how outraged the left/MSM was over this incident here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duLds-TZMGw

They were OUTRAGED!!!!!

Posted by: dan-O at June 15, 2012 12:01 PM (sWycd)

11 So the rest of the reporter pool didn't beat him to death for questioning Dear Leader? I'm surprised. Hope he isn't planning on going to any cocktail parties soon though.

Posted by: Doc at June 15, 2012 12:02 PM (2grn/)

12 why did the other thread close?  i was just warming up to talk about the young black male unemployment (really, really high) & how Barky's little DREAMing will make black male unemployment go UP.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at June 15, 2012 12:02 PM (p3a8+)

13 Remember, Anne Coulter found this poll which states Americans support reducing immigration by 3 times those who like the current (fire hose) level, and only 5 percent want to increase legal immigration.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 15, 2012 12:02 PM (QxSug)

14 Is it safe?

Posted by: toby928: Premptively powermad at June 15, 2012 12:02 PM (QupBk)

15 Oh, and... I'm thrilled they went there.  Anything that gets people focused on the question and not the content of the press conference is awesomesauce.  Helpin' the cause, PMSNBC!  Leanin' extra-forward!

Posted by: Filly at June 15, 2012 12:02 PM (ebG9b)

16 I have no comment.

Posted by: Cicero at June 15, 2012 12:02 PM (QKKT0)

17 Where's Romney's response to this amnesty shit? He better hit this 60 mph fastball out of the park. It is not hard to say "An extra 800,000 illegals are now allowed to take your jobs."

Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 12:02 PM (1jv9o)

18 So the rest of the reporter pool didn't beat him to death for questioning Dear Leader? I'm surprised. Hope he isn't planning on going to any cocktail parties soon though.


****

Apparently, there were several reporters shouting out but only Munro got his full question out.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 12:02 PM (piMMO)

19 If obama had ignored the interruption or laughter it off as Presidentush probably would have, this would be a non-story. But the fact of the matter is obama has real thin skin and thinks he is above normal politics like some master being.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 12:03 PM (j1gX1)

20 Now I know why Obama was too busy to campaign in Wisconsin with all the union workers.  He was working hard on giving  their jobs away to illegal 29-year old children.

Posted by: mama winger at June 15, 2012 12:03 PM (P6QsQ)

21 Well gee, if he ever gave a press conference maybe the press wouldn't have to shout out questions.

Posted by: Mrs Compton at June 15, 2012 12:03 PM (Why44)

22 This Alinsky stuff really sucks when they do it TO you, eh?

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at June 15, 2012 12:03 PM (44/AS)

23

Would I be in error to think half  of MSLSD's viewing audience consists of righties looking for talk show / blog fodder?

 

 

Posted by: Jaws at June 15, 2012 12:03 PM (4I3Uo)

24 I'm proud of Neil Munro, too.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at June 15, 2012 12:03 PM (3346+)

25 Up side?

Racism has lost all it's sting as a charge.

Down side?

Racism has lost all it's sting as a charge.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at June 15, 2012 12:03 PM (famk3)

26 Huckabee say's he's going to sue on the illegality of executive legislation angle.  Says he did it to a Gov.

Posted by: Dang at June 15, 2012 12:03 PM (Ky1+e)

27 I just wish I'd gotten my SCoaMF post in before the last thread was closed.It doesn't look right without it.

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2012 12:03 PM (Xb3hu)

28 sean, your comment is all WMR has to say.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at June 15, 2012 12:03 PM (p3a8+)

29 Who was that one, that 'retired' recently after demanding that all jews in Israel relocate? She had a face like a plate of pan-fried boogers? I kind of remember her heckling Bush on a few occasions.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 15, 2012 12:03 PM (L7hol)

30 This is not a winning issue. And what's worse, in this Hail Mary attempt* is that because of attrition due to SCOAMF's terrible job performance, 1million illegals have left voluntarily. * the five hail mary's: -gay marriage -amnesty -legalize marijuana -forgive student loans -forgive mortgage debts after that, there's nothing, right?

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 15, 2012 12:03 PM (QxSug)

31
Dan Rather's "No, sir; are you?" in response to Richard Nixon's "Are you running for something?" during a press conference set the "New Tone" many years ago.

White on white crime is the awfulest...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at June 15, 2012 12:04 PM (7GfKM)

32 I am once again roused.

Posted by: ravel at June 15, 2012 12:04 PM (QupBk)

33 Shadowy conservative figures shouting questions at King Barack I is totally racist.

Posted by: Andy at June 15, 2012 12:04 PM (5Rurq)

34 Rule #1:

Never interrupt Dear Leader when he is busy assuming dictatorial powers.

Posted by: mama winger at June 15, 2012 12:04 PM (P6QsQ)

35
See what I mean? (points to thread below)

You just say Yes, Ace. As you wish, Ace.

You do not engage. Now he's getting even more upset and angry and frustrated.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 12:04 PM (G/zuv)

36 24
Would I be in error to think half of MSLSD's viewing audience consists of righties looking for talk show / blog fodder?

Posted by: Jaws at June 15, 2012 04:03 PM (4I3Uo)

 

Yes you would.  Its higher.

Posted by: buzzion at June 15, 2012 12:04 PM (GULKT)

37 I guess the question is whether or not the President was done with his prepared remarks before the question was asked.

Did Donaldson or Thomas interrupt Reagan or Bush prepared remarks? That's the question. I guess.

Not that I care all that much. Tempest in a teapot.


*****

Was Reagan trampling the Constitution?

There comes a point when standing on convention... on courtesy...becomes a liability.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 12:04 PM (piMMO)

38 ***18 Where's Romney's response to this amnesty shit? He better hit this 60 mph fastball out of the park. It is not hard to say "An extra 800,000 illegals are now allowed to take your jobs." Posted by: Sean ** true dat, sean. Better write/call your congressman

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 15, 2012 12:04 PM (QxSug)

39 >>If obama had ignored the interruption or laughter it off as Presidentush probably would have, this would be a non-story. But the fact of the matter is obama has real thin skin and thinks he is above normal politics like some master being.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 04:03 PM (j1gX1)

^This.

Posted by: Cyn at June 15, 2012 12:04 PM (WyR2K)

40 If I had a lynch mob, it would look like Neil Munro.

Posted by: Barky O'Dogeater at June 15, 2012 12:05 PM (QKKT0)

41 after that, there's nothing, right? -- You forgot "Kaboom in _____"

Posted by: Doc at June 15, 2012 12:05 PM (2grn/)

42 Was interrrupting obama a class act? I don't know. Was leaving Netanyahu alone while he went to eat dinner a class act?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 12:05 PM (j1gX1)

43 "There comes a point when standing on convention... on courtesy...becomes a liability.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse"

And ^this.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at June 15, 2012 12:05 PM (3346+)

44 * the five hail mary's:
-gay marriage
-amnesty
-legalize marijuana
-forgive student loans
-forgive mortgage debts

The only thing missing from the list is reparations.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 15, 2012 12:05 PM (e0xKF)

45
12 So the rest of the reporter pool didn't beat him to death for questioning Dear Leader? I'm surprised. Hope he isn't planning on going to any cocktail parties soon though.
Posted by: Doc at June 15, 2012 04:02 PM (2grn/)


I'm sure Sally Quinn might have a place open at her table... but not for him.


Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at June 15, 2012 12:06 PM (7GfKM)

46 "The only thing missing from the list is reparations.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge"

Surprise!

Posted by: October at June 15, 2012 12:06 PM (3346+)

47
Outrage from MSNBC for the jerkoff who blew off D-Day?

ya, color me unimpressed.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 12:06 PM (G/zuv)

48 SCOAMF got exactly want he wanted... all of us Americans shouting at each other while quickly forgetting the speech-o-fail from yesterday.

Posted by: Ryt at June 15, 2012 12:07 PM (L7BXh)

49 Looks like Neil is onto the Obama "press conference":

1. Filibustering speech.
2. 1-2 questions from friendly reporters (you'll note he often has a long introduction like noting their birthday or something).
3. Filibustering "answers".
4. Leave because of a lack of time.

I also like how it showed the teleprompter dependency when Obama went back to the speech.  The whole thing suddenly seemed a lot less genuine.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 15, 2012 12:07 PM (T0NGe)

50 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at June 15, 2012 12:07 PM (8y9MW)

51

Obama's fuse is getting a bit short isn't it?

 

We will see a full meltdown by Obama before the election. It's coming, oh yes it is.

Posted by: booter at June 15, 2012 12:07 PM (5KRL6)

52 It's a big deal cuz it's the Daily Caller, not one of the anoited media. Or am I mistaken? I take it Munro is from DC.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at June 15, 2012 12:07 PM (UEEex)

53

Obama HATES pressers.  He doesn't like having to answer questions, especially without the security blanket of TOTUS.      His is the most transparently opaque     administration in history, and I'm not exaggerating.

 

 

Folks have made the assumption that he stormed off because     he was peeved about being interrupted.     I think       he'd never planned on taking questions to begin with.     I'm     sure     he'd PLANNED to walk away   with     a     chin-in-the-air   appearance     of dignity.    Instead, he    got     his    knickers in a twist and stormed off like a petulant child.  

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at June 15, 2012 12:07 PM (4df7R)

54 >>Who was that one, that 'retired' recently after demanding that all jews in Israel relocate?

Helen Thomas. I can hear her scratchy voice heckling Bush in my head, but not enough to google up some relevant footage.

Heck, she was probably heckling Coolidge back in her middle age.

Posted by: HeatherRadish has a sugar buzz at June 15, 2012 12:07 PM (ZKzrr)

55 I find this incredibly funny! In a good way.

https://secure.mittromney.com/donate/donald

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 12:08 PM (piMMO)

56 If obama had ignored the interruption or laughter it off as Presidentush probably would have, this would be a non-story. But the fact of the matter is obama has real thin skin and thinks he is above normal politics like some master being. Posted by: Nevergiveup


That thin skin can be like blood in the water to a bunch of fame-hungry reporters.  This could become a competition.  Many of them are starting to think Obama is toast.

Posted by: Dang at June 15, 2012 12:08 PM (Ky1+e)

57
Neil Munro ruined Obama's informercial.


Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 12:08 PM (G/zuv)

58 Barack Jung Un, our petulant man-child Preezy of the United Steezy was not pleased?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 15, 2012 12:08 PM (jucos)

59 When the deems apologize for all the things they called President Bush on the record and camera, get back to me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 12:08 PM (j1gX1)

60 Posted by: ravel rabble?

Posted by: Stormy at June 15, 2012 12:08 PM (Lo7Ka)

61 We will see a full meltdown by Obama before the election. It's coming, oh yes it is. Yep.

Posted by: Scobface at June 15, 2012 12:08 PM (IoNBC)

62 Is it safe?

Posted by: toby928: Premptively powermad at June 15, 2012 04:02 PM (QupBk)

Is it hidden?

Posted by: Methos at June 15, 2012 12:08 PM (6LvlL)

63

@20  "Presidentush"

 

Too easy.

Posted by: Jaws at June 15, 2012 12:08 PM (4I3Uo)

64 Another step towards complete tyranny. Mr. Obama usurps the Constitutional role of our Congress to enact his kingly fiats.

He puts 800,000 foreigners (and more will apply, if past is prologue) at the head of the line for jobs which should go to citizens of our country.

How long do we put up with this?

Posted by: EXILE at June 15, 2012 12:08 PM (8IBSO)

65 Henceforth I shall communicate my Big Ideas only via Twitter.

Posted by: Barky O'Dogeater at June 15, 2012 12:08 PM (QKKT0)

66 15 Is it safe? Posted by: toby928: Premptively powermad at June 15, 2012 04:02 PM (QupBk) ****** The ALL CAPS say.... No.

Posted by: Ancient Chinese Secret at June 15, 2012 12:08 PM (r2PLg)

67 Down side?

Racism has lost all it's sting as a charge.


Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 15, 2012 04:03 PM (famk3)


Exactly. We are losing the ability to actually call out real racism, most of which comes from the left side of the aisle. Win-win for them.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 15, 2012 12:09 PM (ichgg)

68 I think it's time to disband Congress. 

They haven't passed a budget in years. 
They don't pass laws, but Obama implements them anyway. 
They DO pass laws, and Obama won't enforce them. 


What's the point? 

Posted by: mama winger at June 15, 2012 12:09 PM (P6QsQ)

69 Amazing! World record time in the "racism" hurling event!

Posted by: NBC (Home of the 2012 Summer Olympics) at June 15, 2012 12:09 PM (j0WSV)

70 I don't want Rubio as a a VP pick.He's shown himself to be unready.

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2012 12:09 PM (Xb3hu)

71 "Presidentush" Too easy. Posted by: Jaws at June 15, 2012 04:08 PM (4I3Uo) That was suppose to be President Bush but ....ah I type shitty

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 12:09 PM (j1gX1)

72

-forgive student loans

 

This one is a given I think.  Barry has nothing else to offer the recently graduated but unemployed legion of yutes.

Posted by: toby928 at June 15, 2012 12:09 PM (QupBk)

73

The correct terminology is "Ax" him a question.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 12:09 PM (3GZGr)

74 Obama's fuse is getting a bit short isn't it?

We will see a full meltdown by Obama before the election. It's coming, oh yes it is. Posted by: booter


No telling what's going on inside the White House.

Posted by: Dang at June 15, 2012 12:10 PM (Ky1+e)

75 Do these 800,000 count in official employment stats now?

Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 12:10 PM (1jv9o)

76 Boy there is going to be a lot of shit for Romney to unwind on day one.

Posted by: EXILE at June 15, 2012 12:10 PM (8IBSO)

77 I don't think anyone should be rude to a sitting president. I was angry with the left for the way they treated Bush, and though I don't care for him, I don't want to see the right show bad behavior towards Bammy. That said, he is not polite to others. Using his middle finger when talking about Sarah Palin, the rude joke about his wife, calling a reporter sweetheart, (wow, he may be sexist too) all indicate that he was not taught respectful behavior towards others. So I guess he is reaping what he sowed. I do think we on the right need to tread carefully. We are up against an enemy who have no morals, compunction, limits. They don't care about anyone but themselves. WE have to be smarter and more clever. I think we can manage that!!

Posted by: moki at June 15, 2012 12:10 PM (dZmFh)

78

<i>"I didn't ask for an argument..."</i>

Are you f**king kidding me!!!! What f**king country do you think you are the king of, you f**king a**hole???????

Sic Semper Tyrannus

Posted by: LGoPs at June 15, 2012 12:10 PM (BvA3A)

79 I don't want Rubio as a a VP pick.He's shown himself to be unready. Posted by: steevy

Amen to that.

Posted by: Dang at June 15, 2012 12:10 PM (Ky1+e)

80 Testing testing. Got to AoS today just as the fertilizer was hitting the rotational ventilater.

Posted by: Soona - banned but certainly not angry at June 15, 2012 12:11 PM (cQCm/)

81 Looks like the Choomer in Chief got all "wee-weed up", doesn't it?

One of the last acts of a desperate narcissist...

Posted by: Mjölnir the banhammer at June 15, 2012 12:11 PM (Jls4P)

82 Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 04:09 PM (3GZGr)

<cough>

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at June 15, 2012 12:11 PM (famk3)

83 Do these 800,000 count in official employment stats now? Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 04:10 PM (1jv9o) It'll be a push because they will push 800,000 others into the "No longer looking" category

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 12:11 PM (j1gX1)

84 FYNQ!

Posted by: Honey Badger at June 15, 2012 12:11 PM (GvYeG)

85 >>I don't want Rubio as a a VP pick.He's shown himself to be unready.

Watch for Vikings.

Posted by: Æthelred at June 15, 2012 12:11 PM (ZKzrr)

86 76 Do these 800,000 count in official employment stats now?

Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 04:10 PM (1jv9o)



This^^^

Unemployment just went up with this announcement. There are now at least 800,000 more people in the job pool.

Posted by: EXILE at June 15, 2012 12:11 PM (8IBSO)

87

Neil Munro sleeps with the fishes.

Posted by: dananjcon at June 15, 2012 12:11 PM (eavT+)

88

All legal citizens will be immediately deported to states 52-57

Posted by: mama winger at June 15, 2012 12:11 PM (P6QsQ)

89 Respect is earned, not automatically given. Thus far, 0bama has done nothing to earn my respect, and has done a great deal to earn my derision. The fact that merely asking questions ignites a firestorm of "raaaaaaacism!" screeching is telling.

Posted by: Clp at June 15, 2012 12:11 PM (iKtPX)

90 No one should be rude to ANYONE,but if someone is rude to POTUS,it's not a big deal.He's just a guy with a job.Seriously,we need to remember that.

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2012 12:12 PM (Xb3hu)

91

 

This is what strikes me.....whenever the left starts with that "it's racist" stuff....

 

Are they saying that Barky's behavior is representative of his race...as a whole?

That...lying, totalitarian, socialistic cronyism....is a characteristic of all black people?

And therefore....to criticise this behavior....is an affront to all black people? 

 

That in itself...seems rather insulting....to all black people.

 

Posted by: wheatie at June 15, 2012 12:12 PM (M2JTb)

92 Heck, she was probably heckling Coolidge back in her middle age. Posted by: HeatherRadish has a sugar buzz at June 15, 2012 04:07 PM (ZKzrr) ------------------------------------------------------- Helen Thomas used to heckle Nero

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 15, 2012 12:13 PM (jucos)

93 Ace, I looked for a clip of Donaldson interrupting Reagan and got a great line instead-
http://tinyurl.com/2pcrp4


Posted by: kdny at June 15, 2012 12:13 PM (64UiT)

94 86 I see what you did there.

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2012 12:13 PM (Xb3hu)

95 Where's Romney's response? He's been fairly ruthless thusfar.

Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 12:13 PM (1jv9o)

96 test

Posted by: LGoPs at June 15, 2012 12:13 PM (BvA3A)

97 Don't let MSNBC distract us from the real issues. The media have a right to answers: * Why is the President of the United States putting the interests of foreign workers ahead of struggling Americans. * Many of these illegal aliens have been violating our national borders by illegally remaining inside the United States in defiance of our laws. Why should they be given job permits when 23 million law-abiding Americans cannot find a full-time job in the United States. * Isn't this a blow to the efforts of the working man you claim to represent. He's trying to get a job, and the President of the United States wants to give out job slips to millions of people here illegally.

Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2012 12:13 PM (sEXZ/)

98 MSNBC thinks breathing the air in the same hemisphere as Derp Fuhrer is racist.

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 15, 2012 12:14 PM (pqW4Y)

99 Michelle's huge ass beckoned.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 12:14 PM (3GZGr)

100
Obama is a 10K gold plated turd.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 12:14 PM (G/zuv)

101 93
This is what strikes me.....whenever the left starts with that "it's racist" stuff....

Are they saying that Barky's behavior is representative of his race...as a whole?
That...lying, totalitarian, socialistic cronyism....is a characteristic of all black people?
And therefore....to criticise this behavior....is an affront to all black people?

That in itself...seems rather insulting....to all black people.

To split hairs on top of that, wouldn't it only be HALF racist?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 15, 2012 12:14 PM (e0xKF)

102 Do these 800,000 count in official employment stats now? What do you mean you want a 1099?! See ya...

Posted by: Employers at June 15, 2012 12:14 PM (FcR7P)

103 Hey it's good to know that the celebrities will be the final arbitrators of this coming election ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 12:14 PM (j1gX1)

104 One does not question the Dope.  Er, Pope.

Posted by: Cicero at June 15, 2012 12:14 PM (QKKT0)

105

Weren't we told earlier in the year that Mexicans are leaving the U.S. in mass and returning to Mexico because the opportunities for jobs and the economy there are better than here?  South Park did a great episode about that--how the border patrol were trying to keep the illegals from fleeing the U.S.  So why is His Royal Amnesty pandering to people who aren't even here?  Oh, but it isn't political, and those who say it is are racist!

 

Posted by: runningrn at June 15, 2012 12:14 PM (WGmy2)

106 how does this DREAM stuff help him?  with Latinos?  is that the sum total of the positive for him?

because there have to be some blacks that are upset with this--especially in hard hit areas.  there should be alot of young people upset by this too.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at June 15, 2012 12:14 PM (p3a8+)

107
Where's Romney's response?

It appears that Mitt concurs with Sen. Rubio.


Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 12:15 PM (G/zuv)

108 Those NBC turds can sure lie with a straight face can't they.

Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2012 12:15 PM (YdQQY)

109 Florida's challenge to purge its voter rolls just got a little more complicated.

Posted by: Doc at June 15, 2012 12:15 PM (2grn/)

110 Where's Romney's response? This is a very good question. Will Mitt Romney reverse this Presidential Executive Order if he is elected to the White House and return these millions of jobs to hard-working Americans? Where is Mitt Romney? And why has he not released a statement about this very controversial policy of end-running the United States people and their duly-elected Congress by a bunch of out-of-control bureaucrats who have decided unilaterally NOT to enforce our laws? Are we a nation of laws, or dictator's orders?

Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2012 12:15 PM (sEXZ/)

111 See, Munro made the classic mistake of not throwing a shoe along with his question. That is why the rest of the press is mad.

Posted by: Wilkins at June 15, 2012 12:15 PM (cgOkw)

112 That in itself...seems rather insulting....to all black people.

No.  They attribute all that stuff towards his white half, but any criticism automatically accumulates toward his black half, so... racism.

I now denounce myself.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at June 15, 2012 12:16 PM (8y9MW)

113 Anything from Star-Khan Reince Preibus yet?  The RNC has been pretty quick lately.

Posted by: toby928 at June 15, 2012 12:16 PM (QupBk)

114 golly, it just seems that this plays right into /Republican hands.

even if you are one of those "love everyone, even illegals" types--this is going to make it harder to find entry level jobs for everybody.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at June 15, 2012 12:16 PM (p3a8+)

115 I expect repudiation from Romney,shortly.

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2012 12:16 PM (Xb3hu)

116 Have I won June yet?

Posted by: Baraka Obama at June 15, 2012 12:16 PM (5npD/)

117 This Alinsky stuff really sucks when they do it TO you, eh? Tasty, tasty sauce for the gander.

Posted by: Clp at June 15, 2012 12:17 PM (iKtPX)

118 "There comes a point when standing on convention... on courtesy...becomes a liability." See, that's an argument that works when preaching to the choir. I'm not particularly outraged by the reporters question and its timing and I suspect very few commenters here are either. But then, we aren't the audience that counts, now are we? It's the so-called independents, the folks that pay attention politics for about 3 months once every 4 years that tend to swing elections. We all know a ton of these people. They don't like it when people make a scene. I'm not saying it's right. It just is.

Posted by: Fred at June 15, 2012 12:17 PM (xWGQr)

119 94 Heck, she was probably heckling Coolidge back in her middle age.    
Posted by: HeatherRadish has a sugar buzz at June 15, 2012 04:07 PM (ZKzrr)  
-------------------------------------------------------  
Helen Thomas used to heckle Nero    

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 15, 2012 04:13 PM (jucos)

 

I still have nightmares     of talking prunes demanding to know why Eve was so much better than     them...

Posted by: Adam at June 15, 2012 12:17 PM (4df7R)

120 We are in for months of executive orders like this,especially when Obama loses.

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2012 12:17 PM (Xb3hu)

121
again, word is that Mitt concurs with Rubio on this matter

see: Y-not's comment about Ben Domenech

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 12:17 PM (G/zuv)

122

"In the marketplace of ideas, MSNBC is the Qwik-E-Mart."

 

RaceTrac.

Posted by: reason at June 15, 2012 12:17 PM (5npD/)

123 Thank you John McCain, you brain-damaged twat.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 12:17 PM (3GZGr)

124 This is not a winning issue. And what's worse, in this Hail Mary attempt* is that because of attrition due to SCOAMF's terrible job performance, 1million illegals have left voluntarily.

* the five hail mary's:
-gay marriage
-amnesty
-legalize marijuana
-forgive student loans
-forgive mortgage debts

after that, there's nothing, right?

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 15, 2012 04:03 PM (QxSug)


Add increase taxes and healthcare you got your list. He won't be able to add anything else, because that's all there is. I think he will just ramp up the degrees on everything. It will go from changing student loan interest rates to abolishing their debt all together. I do disagree with a lot of people here that this is not a winning issue, a lot of Republicans in the west and southwest will have to battle it out, and if Hispanics end up on the democrat side that's ballgame.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 15, 2012 12:17 PM (tKFT6)

125 Did Obama make this announcement while wearing a sombrero perched on a juanty angle>

Posted by: runningrn at June 15, 2012 12:17 PM (WGmy2)

126 Comparing Reagan to Obama is like comparing apples to oranges.  Let's see.  "Apples"?  I think that's OK.  "Oranges"?  I think that's good, too.  I guess I can post as long as I don't mention Brazil nuts.

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 15, 2012 12:18 PM (jUZRg)

127 We all know a ton of these people. They don't like it when people make a scene. I'm not saying it's right. It just is.

Hmm.  curiously put.

Posted by: Cicero at June 15, 2012 12:18 PM (QKKT0)

128

Where is Mitt Romney?

 

I'd give him a few hours to get his wording straight, unless he read your comments in the other thread, which were pretty good I must say.

Posted by: toby928 at June 15, 2012 12:18 PM (QupBk)

129 I just heard Mitt Generics take on this issue. He never poo pood Amnesty. He's on board people. Get ready for it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 12:18 PM (9TTOe)

130 God damn asshole. He doesn't care about this country.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 15, 2012 12:18 PM (J0tQ5)

131 95-kdny-that was one of the most brilliant come backs I have heard. How can the left even begin to call Ronald a bumbling old man? He was amazing. And he was always polite. Unlike the current incumbent.

Posted by: moki at June 15, 2012 12:18 PM (dZmFh)

132
If Ben Domenech is accurate and Mitt is with Rubio on this, it's more evidence for my crazy theory about Rubio being picked for veep long ago.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 12:19 PM (G/zuv)

133 Come se dice "Choom" en espanol?

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 12:19 PM (3GZGr)

134 * the five hail mary's:

-gay marriage
-amnesty
-legalize marijuana
-forgive student loans
-forgive mortgage debts

The only one that would affect me is the last one... and he still wouldn't get my vote....

Posted by: Mjölnir the banhammer at June 15, 2012 12:19 PM (Jls4P)

135 no, i don't think Romney should say he will reverse this EO.  once we let these illegals have a work permit, its really mean-spirited to take it away.  especially if they are off their ass & really working.

Romney should hit this with "if you are un/under employed, the President just gave you 100,000 more competitors for that job.--isn't that stupid of the President?  & counter productive to getting Americans back to work."

Posted by: kelley in virginia at June 15, 2012 12:19 PM (p3a8+)

136 Every time this president speaks, all I'm hearing is that giant sucking sound.

Posted by: Ross Perot at June 15, 2012 12:19 PM (IoNBC)

137 From Hot Gas link:


But his basic point, that youÂ’ll need a compromise in Congress to finally settle this issue, is all too true.


Bullshit.  What we need is no compromise. Allpundit has become Jeb Bush.  We have had too much of that already. 

Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2012 12:19 PM (YdQQY)

138 And now, a racist comment to keep Ace occupied and frustrated:

"White folks be trippin'."

Thank you, that is all.

...and I denounce myself.

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 15, 2012 12:19 PM (pqW4Y)

139 Neil Munro's question was out of context.  We now return you to our regularly scheduled clustering and stuttering.

Posted by: Bob Saget at June 15, 2012 12:20 PM (SDkq3)

140

Mitt needs to leave this issue alone.

Again... effectively NOTHING on the ground changes with this speech. It's just a vocalization of current policy intended to distract from the economy and SCOAMF's failures.

 

The only play I can see here is if Mitt is asked about the President's comments is to say something along the lines of, "Yes I saw it. The president doesn't like to be questioned, does he?"

 

AND THAT'S IT.

 

Posted by: MiloX at June 15, 2012 12:20 PM (96Fx0)

141 I'm not particularly outraged by the reporters question and its timing and I suspect very few commenters here are either.

But then, we aren't the audience that counts, now are we? It's the so-called independents, the folks that pay attention politics for about 3 months once every 4 years that tend to swing elections.

We all know a ton of these people. They don't like it when people make a scene.


--------

I have a feeling that anyone who is not already supporting Obama has a problem with someone calling him out on giving away jobs to illegals.

Posted by: mama winger at June 15, 2012 12:20 PM (P6QsQ)

142 Senor Calderon, tear down this wall!

Posted by: Famous Quotations and Aphorisms of Baraka Obama, vol 1, pg 1 at June 15, 2012 12:20 PM (QKKT0)

143 We all know a ton of these people. They don't like it when people make a scene. I'm not saying it's right. It just is.

Posted by: Fred at June 15, 2012 04:17 PM (xWGQr)

 

And I don't know that that's the impression those folks will get.  Maybe some of them, possibly even a majority of them.   But I think a reasonable    chunk of them are going to go, "Wait, what the heck?   Why is this a big deal?  The guy asked a question.  And you know what, it's a reasonable question.  Instead of yapping about how rude it was to ask the question, why isn't anyone asking, 'So, what's the answer?'"

 

The uninformed are incredibly stupid.   But even stupid people can spot       weapons' grade diversions like this.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at June 15, 2012 12:20 PM (4df7R)

144

 

The Baby Eagles....taking turns, tearing up a Squirrel.

[watch it live...linky in my sig]

 

Seems kinda like a metaphor....for what the conservatives on Twitter have been doing with the squirrels that Barky throws out.

Heh.

Posted by: wheatie at June 15, 2012 12:20 PM (M2JTb)

145 well, he's in a world of hurt because of self-deportation. There's already a million less illegals here than a few years ago. Obama would have to order the border patrol to stop and pay illegals to vote for this to matter.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 15, 2012 12:20 PM (QxSug)

146

Come se dice "Choom" en espanol?

 

Je ne c'est pas.  Mais en Backwardians c'est "Mooch"!

Posted by: runningrn at June 15, 2012 12:20 PM (WGmy2)

147 <<* the five hail mary's:


-gay marriage

-amnesty

-legalize marijuana

-forgive student loans

-forgive mortgage debts>>



Derp Fuhrer's just about run out of diversion tactics.

Next up: Asylum for immigrant puppies...because the Republicans hate puppies, and the president needs a snack.

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 15, 2012 12:21 PM (pqW4Y)

148

Romney just responded on fox.

 

He said that we need a national solution, long term on what to do with the dream act kids, He said Obama just made that harder because it's temporary and could be reversed by a future president and that he agreed with Rubios approach.

 

I was open minded about rubios approach, not so much anymore. I think Obama just killed it for illegals.

Posted by: robtr at June 15, 2012 12:21 PM (MtwBb)

149 so was He interrupted during his speal or just asked  a question about it?

Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 12:21 PM (TomZ9)

150 Florida's challenge to purge its voter rolls just got a little more complicated. Posted by: Doc at June 15, 2012 04:15 PM (2grn/) That may be why he did this-since he couldn't win in Court for a state rights issue. This end runs Rick Scott and any other governor who tries to clean up voter rolls, or demand voter id. Ugh. This whole administration is vile.

Posted by: moki at June 15, 2012 12:21 PM (dZmFh)

151

So Helen Thomas speaks truth to power and Neil Munro is rascist?

Personally, I think Neil and Scott Walker should go on a ball-clanging tour.

Posted by: old glazier at June 15, 2012 12:21 PM (KcINh)

152

@78  "I don't think anyone should be rude to a sitting president. I was angry with the left for the way they treated Bush, and though I don't care for him, I don't want to see the right show bad behavior towards Bammy."

 

You think the left's boorish, nasty, and sometimes violent  behavior will change if conservatives play nice?  Well, that'd certainly be a first.

The mushy, stupid  middle doesn't care about such niceties.  They back the strong horse - a winner - because they're too lazy to do their homework on the issues.  It takes "outrageous" behavior like this episode to get through the MSM filter and out to low-info voters who, like it or not, control the outcome of elections.

 

 

Posted by: Jaws at June 15, 2012 12:22 PM (4I3Uo)

153 Now see, this is how you handle a REAL heckler...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NopfkczmJ88

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 12:22 PM (piMMO)

154

shpiel*

was he asked when it was open to questions from reporters is what i meant?

Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 12:22 PM (TomZ9)

155 <<Where's Romney's response?

It appears that Mitt concurs with Sen. Rubio.>>



I trust that was said without any surprise or shock whatsoever.

Posted by: Sgt. York at June 15, 2012 12:22 PM (pqW4Y)

156 What Romney should do is unilaterally reverse and cancel every XO issued bu Obama.  ALL of them.  And just release a statement saying all of his executive fiat and unconstitutional actions have been cancelled. 


He should do that with no further explanation.  except possible asking Congress to reverse every law passed by the Democrats since 2007.


Then he should go in a kill every regulation enacted by the different departments while Obama was Pharaoh.

Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2012 12:23 PM (YdQQY)

157

This end runs Rick Scott and any other governor who tries to clean up voter rolls, or demand voter id.

 

How so?  Legal immigrants can't vote either.

Posted by: toby928 at June 15, 2012 12:23 PM (QupBk)

158

ugh, it was in POST:

 I know he rarely takes questions before walking away from the podium. When I asked the question as he finished his speech, he turned his back on the many reporters, and walked away while I and at least one other reporter asked questions.”

 

how is that an issue?

Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 12:23 PM (TomZ9)

159 I heard Sam Donaldson shout questions to Reagan at his second Inaugural Ball.  He was sort of the designated shouter for the whole press corps. 

Posted by: rockmom at June 15, 2012 12:23 PM (aBlZ1)

160

And Romney pours lukewarm water all over it.

What a fucking leader

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 12:23 PM (3GZGr)

161 Perry, Cruz, and Dewhurst all issued excellent statements. Here's Rick's: Gov. Rick Perry released a statement regarding the Obama Administration's immigration announcement: "The Obama Administration's election-year tactic to bypass Congress and arbitrarily grant amnesty to potentially millions of illegal immigrants is another example of its blatant disregard for our Constitution, our rule of law and our democratic process. The laws of this nation are not open to selective, convenient or political interpretation; they are the very foundation of our freedom, and the protections they guarantee make our nation strong and attractive to immigrants around the world - millions of whom abide by our laws and processes and seek legal entry. These are decisions that should be thoroughly debated within the halls of Congress. This Administration has failed to provide a secure border, which is essential to national security, and is instead granting blanket amnesty to those who have broken our laws. Failed border security and immigration policies have created a magnet for those who came in the first place. It's clear President Obama prefers to upend the rule of law, picking winners and losers, rather than work with Congress and the American people on a sustainable, long-term solution."

Posted by: Y-not, former Texan at June 15, 2012 12:23 PM (5H6zj)

162 was He interrupted during his speal or just asked a question about it?

Interrupted.  The reporter claims he thought Obama was wrapping up and knew that Obama was unlikely to take questions; that he just wanted to make sure his was early enough in the cacophony of questions that follows the president that it would be heard clearly, instead of garbled with everyone else's.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at June 15, 2012 12:23 PM (8y9MW)

163

Neil Munro should have asked, "What jobs are they going to get, Mr. President?" Maybe he did, I couldn't hear him.

;;;;

The really funny part was when Obama started in about how these illegal Mexican immigrants are going to start businesses and hire people.

''''

He looks for salvation everywhere except the American middle class. Oh, that's right, they are all to become teachers and other union members, then they will be taken care of too.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 15, 2012 12:23 PM (jTKU5)

164 Mitt should point out Obama has had the most anti-immigrant policy, his work in the economy alone has scared away hundreds of thousand if not a million immigrants.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 15, 2012 12:23 PM (tKFT6)

165 The Executive branch is charged with executing the laws of the land.  I don't see how this is not a violation of his oath of office.

Posted by: mama winger at June 15, 2012 12:24 PM (P6QsQ)

166 91 The only thing I can gather from all of this is that Barry is throwing the election. I've always been the one saying never overestimate these idiots, but even he can't be this dumb. Posted by: runninrebel at June 15, 2012 04:12 PM (N/1Dm) ------------------- Don't kid yourself. Baraka's sole purpose to being the preezy was the destruction of the US. Now that he knows that he probably won't win a second term, he's going to. E doubling down. Hang on, folks. It's going to get scary (if it isn't already).

Posted by: Soona - banned but certainly not angry at June 15, 2012 12:24 PM (cQCm/)

167 **152 Romney just responded on fox. He said that we need a national solution, long term on what to do with the dream act kids, He said Obama just made that harder because it's temporary and could be reversed by a future president and that he agreed with Rubios approach. I was open minded about rubios approach, not so much anymore. I think Obama just killed it for illegals.*** That's not good enough, we liked Mitt because he wasn't an open borders nut. At least Perry is on the ball.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 15, 2012 12:24 PM (QxSug)

168
I'm not shocked that Mitt would handle the issue delicately. But I am disappointed he didn't use the opportunity to question the fiscal wisdom of Obama's decision in Obama's recession.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 12:24 PM (G/zuv)

169 He said Obama just made that harder because it's temporary and could be reversed by a future president and that he agreed with Rubios approach.


So Romney now has reversed himself and agrees with Rubio now???


All you Romneybots tell me again why we should vote for Mutt.

Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2012 12:25 PM (YdQQY)

170 Illegals spending the food stamps that Americans won't cash..

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 12:25 PM (3GZGr)

171 Legal immigrants can't vote either.

--------

Ever been asked to show your citizenship papers at the polls?  Me neither.

Posted by: mama winger at June 15, 2012 12:25 PM (P6QsQ)

172 something else the MFM will ignore while hyperventilating over Munro:
http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/144957/

Posted by: Æthelred at June 15, 2012 12:25 PM (ZKzrr)

173 52 We will see a full meltdown by Obama before the election. It's coming, oh yes it is.

I'm betting on it. This guy is as unstable as a 90 year old bottle of nitroglycerin sitting in the sun.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at June 15, 2012 12:25 PM (Qxdfp)

174 That may be why he did this-since he couldn't win in Court for a state rights issue. This end runs Rick Scott and any other governor who tries to clean up voter rolls, or demand voter id.

How?  Getting to stay here not to work (real ue is 14.5% or more, remember) does not mean you get to vote, and the FL Voter Purge was specifically for people who are here illegally anyway.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at June 15, 2012 12:25 PM (8y9MW)

175 I was open minded about rubios approach, not so much anymore. I think Obama just killed it for illegals.

Much in the same way he did by fucking up the Middle East negotiations by demanding more than what the Palestinians were openly asking for.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 15, 2012 12:25 PM (e0xKF)

176 Kimberlin Case Against Aaron Walker Dismissed!

Posted by: skree at June 15, 2012 12:25 PM (6HDCK)

177

Come se dice "Choom" en espanol?

Je ne c'est pas. Mais en Backwardians c'est "Mooch"!\

 

****

 

Whoa!  Mind blown!

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 15, 2012 12:26 PM (jUZRg)

178 All this does is divide the nation more. And, I think this tosses a handful more over to the Romney camp. I cannot wait to see the response from Romney & Company. They need to really think it through.

Posted by: dream on at June 15, 2012 12:26 PM (HOOye)

179

That Jenny Craig chick staring at her cootchie cracks me up.

 

Reporters vs. Obama.  Can they both lose?  And then get chronic spastic acute diarrhea?

Posted by: eleven at June 15, 2012 12:26 PM (fsLdt)

180 Romney is exactly correct that this requires a legislative solution.I don't see a problem with that.We elect the right legislators than the conclusion is to our liking and Romney signs it into law.The way it's supposed to be done.

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2012 12:26 PM (Xb3hu)

181

allen the sReporter said this;  

 

 When I asked the question as he finished his speech, he turned his back on the many reporters, and walked away while I and at least one other reporter asked questions.”

Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 12:26 PM (TomZ9)

182 Romney is not the problem here folks.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 15, 2012 12:26 PM (jTKU5)

183 All you Romneybots tell me again why we should vote for Mutt. Because you prefer Obama. Good enough reason for us.

Posted by: Kaitian at June 15, 2012 12:26 PM (s34Mw)

184 What to do with illegals who have been here for a long time, particularly those brought as children, is a tough question. Send 'em back doesn't play that well on the national scale, and Romney is wise to avoid opening that can of worms. This is exactly why he advocates for self-deportation.

The way I would have expected Romney to address this is along the lines of:  The people, through their representatives in Congress, have specifically rejected what Obama is now proposing to do. Now Obama is circumvention Congress and the people, and that's not how we do things.

Posted by: Xander Crews at June 15, 2012 12:27 PM (QvARJ)

185 Mitt Generic=Prog Republican. I'm going to be projectile vomiting while pulling the lever for this man.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 12:27 PM (9TTOe)

186 That said, that remedy is unavailable, because of course the Democrat-controlled Senate would vote against impeachment.

Remember me?

Posted by: CUS at June 15, 2012 12:27 PM (84pE9)

187

perhaps Obama shouldn't have called a Presser, it was  just another camapign speech for another group.

 

 

Posted by: willow at June 15, 2012 12:27 PM (TomZ9)

188
Why So Fickle?

Posted by: The Joker at June 15, 2012 12:27 PM (G/zuv)

189 What the hell did you guys have a Revolution for?

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 15, 2012 12:27 PM (J0tQ5)

190 It is not hard to say "An extra 800,000 illegals are now allowed to take your jobs." Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 04:02 PM (1jv9o) Not just that sir! They have a federal permit to do it! STIMULUS!!!! Next naturally, is that it won't be fair that their parents will be deported but they get to stay.

Posted by: cajun carrot at June 15, 2012 12:27 PM (UZQM8)

191 Hello? Am I on the air?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 15, 2012 12:27 PM (MCDCp)

192 So, he calls a press conference, then gets pissed when the press asks a question?

Interesting.

Posted by: © Sponge at June 15, 2012 12:27 PM (UK9cE)

193 All you Romneybots tell me again why we should vote for Mutt.

Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2012 04:25 PM (YdQQY)

;;;

Vic, if you can't figure that out, do us a favor and don't vote.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 15, 2012 12:27 PM (jTKU5)

194 Moki- Reagan was brilliant. He spent years writing and giving speeches about politics before ever running for office.

Even as a kid, I cheered Reagan in his handling of the press and Donaldson in particular. I intend to go back and look for more like this later.

Posted by: kdny at June 15, 2012 12:27 PM (64UiT)

195 185 Romney is not the problem here folks.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 15, 2012 04:26 PM (jTKU5)

But he's supposed to be the solution.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 12:27 PM (3GZGr)

196 So to review:

Anything less than total fealty to Dear Leader is racist.

Posted by: Jones in CO at June 15, 2012 12:28 PM (8sCoq)

197 #162 It's an issue because the initial report was that the Preezy was "heckled" and it took a while for the idiots in the MSM to figure out that it was a real reporter asking a real question. 

Posted by: rockmom at June 15, 2012 12:28 PM (aBlZ1)

198 Romney is not the problem here folks.


****

DING! DING! DING!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 12:28 PM (piMMO)

199 What other laws is he simply going to ignore because they might help score political points?

Posted by: mama winger at June 15, 2012 12:28 PM (P6QsQ)

200 Sounds like he made a rookie mistake; interrupting the speech is going a bit too far, and he jumped the gun a bit.

That said, if the MSM wasn't still in full fawning mode, they'd be more aggressive in trying to get answers out of the King Who Shall Not Be Questioned.

Remember when Bush was criticized because he didn't always answer questions (but sometimes did) when walking away from Marine One?  Good times.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 15, 2012 12:28 PM (SY2Kh)

201 Romney is not the problem here folks.

No, Romney is not the problem.  His position is problematic.  The two are different.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at June 15, 2012 12:28 PM (8y9MW)

202

Hell, I'm too conservative to be a Republican (left the party in 2007) and I know enough to vote fro Romney.

 

Just like I'd vote for a cold over cancer.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 15, 2012 12:28 PM (jTKU5)

203 @163 I dunno. If Romney came out with a flame-thrower, he'd be a cast as a racist.

As is, he quietly reminded folk that another pres could come in and undo the EO.  Rubio's approach? Legal, constitutional law-making, the way it's supposed to be. I think Mittens played this correctly.

Posted by: Lizabth at June 15, 2012 12:29 PM (JZBti)

204 But I am disappointed he didn't use the opportunity to question the fiscal wisdom of Obama's decision in Obama's recession. --- Yep. I don't expect Mitt to go all fire and brimstone. But I do expect him to point out the effect on the unemployed. And I also expect him to follow the lead of our more "severely conservative" governors when it comes to immigration, not some junior senator from Florida who apparently wanted to resurrect the DREAM Act for his own political benefit.

Posted by: Y-not, former Texan at June 15, 2012 12:29 PM (5H6zj)

205
#191

perhaps Obama shouldn't have called a Presser, it was just another camapign speech for another group.

At least we didn't have to pay to fly him to the rose garden for this one.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 15, 2012 12:29 PM (L7hol)

206 How so? Legal immigrants can't vote either. Posted by: toby928 at June 15, 2012 04:23 PM (QupBk) I guess that's the case of the dream act just makes them legal residents. The problem is that many on the voter rolls are legal residents, and thus not citizens. But by declaring amnesty for 800,000 kids, that will screw up the bureaucratic mechanism for getting these people off the roles, because they will then be taxed with changing status for the dream actors. Florida, for instance, doesn't have the money to hire two teams-one to work on illegal voter rolls, one to redirect dream actors, so they are stuck with double work, insufficient work force, and just a few months before the election. And I don't think volunteers can perform this work-although I could be wrong. Basically, bammy is using anything he can to screw up voter purging, to ensure his political survival. This is just one thing. If the president declares that these 800000 kids are now citizens, they can't be removed from voter records. Scott has been pretty forceful about getting that done in the next couple of months, and now, if this is the case, will be stymied from getting them off the rolls, becau

Posted by: moki at June 15, 2012 12:29 PM (dZmFh)

207 One of my favorite tricks on other boards was pretending my comments were deleted by moderators: [--post deleted by moderator--] It always got people lathered up in a frenzy. But I try not to troll here. But it's tempting...

Posted by: Max Power at June 15, 2012 12:29 PM (q177U)

208 you go Rick Perry!

Posted by: kelley in virginia at June 15, 2012 12:29 PM (p3a8+)

209 ace, re: poison addendum, i think what matt lewis was saying is that conservatives will experience such an odious visceral reaction that there is NO CHANCE for immigration reform to be seriously considered and discussed by both parties. essentially, his post is as much a warning to conservatives against automatically discounting the inevitability of immigration reform (and the possibility of going about it the Right way, pun very much intended) as it is an excoriation of obama's heavy-handed force-feeding of pseudo-amnesty to the american people today. i think it's important to focus on the essential tyranny of obama and his DHS, but then again this behaviour is little more than par for the course. as another supporter of Rubio's approach, i agree with matt wholeheartedly on the necessity of conservatives to maintain an open mind to conservative alternatives to immigration reform, but i'm afraid the "poison" has long lay in THAT well. this same argument was made when obama speechfied on gay marriage..."he's turning people off by the way he's approaching it"...and while there's some truth to the argument, i honestly don't think conservatives are going to be, collectively, much less disposed to conservative immigration reform plans than they already have shown themselves to be. if the GOP hadn't fought rubio's "misguided efforts" so hard, we would have had the initiative on the hispanic vote today...not to mention on crafting the domain of the debate! do y'all who oppose immigration reform flatly really want hispanics that come to this country to think that DEMOCRAT is the right set of values to espouse?

Posted by: jimi ray at June 15, 2012 12:29 PM (FcOR4)

210 Personally, I see this whole amnesty thing for the desperate ploy that it is. unless they were desperate for this election to be at least close-instead of a blow out-they would not be willing to lose so many voters. Who will they lose?? Whites and blacks. why?? well, whites because this is just another thing they will have to defend him to. and blacks because he is saying to them that they are no longer his special people. They have been replaced. Just like the black pandering radio ad. It says they have his back-not that he has theirs. I used to live near Detroit. Blacks and Mexicans and Arabs do not get along.

Posted by: Chilling the most at June 15, 2012 12:29 PM (6IV8T)

211 199185 Romney is not the problem here folks.
Posted by: Meremortal at June 15, 2012 04:26 PM (jTKU5)
But he's supposed to be the solution.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 04:27 PM (3GZGr)

Heh. See #206.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 15, 2012 12:29 PM (jTKU5)

212 8 In the marketplace of ideas, MSNBC is the Qwik-E-Mart.


Posted by: wytshus at June 15, 2012 04:01 PM (u93Ac)

 

 

More like a busted gumball machine.

Posted by: model_1066 at June 15, 2012 12:30 PM (YbQJm)

213 185 Romney is not the problem here folks. Posted by: Meremortal at June 15, 2012 04:26 PM (jTKU5) Not Yet, but if he gets in? Stand by.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 12:30 PM (9TTOe)

214 This announcement happened when?  A couple of hours ago?  And Romney hasn't completely neutralized it yet?

DAMN HIM!!!!!!!!

Posted by: mama winger at June 15, 2012 12:30 PM (P6QsQ)

215 All you Romneybots tell me again why we should vote for Mutt.

Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2012 04:25 PM (YdQQY)

 

 

Romney said a month ago he agree with Rubio. Rubio is basically giving them work visas, no citizenship although they could apply at the back of the line.

 

Mitt wasn't strong enough though. He could have said he agrees with Rubio but he disagrees with Obama taking a dump on the constitution.

Posted by: robtr at June 15, 2012 12:30 PM (MtwBb)

216 these illegals get a work permit, not citizenship.  not that any Dem cares--they should all participate in voter fraud.

maybe i shouldn't read the news anymore.  i'm just so worked up

Posted by: kelley in virginia at June 15, 2012 12:31 PM (p3a8+)

217 A modest proposal: train the 800,000 to be journalists.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 15, 2012 12:31 PM (ozSsd)

218

All you Romneybots tell me again why we should vote for Mutt

Not a Romneybot here, though that is pretty clever, but if this hasn't been hashed and rehashed enough times for you already why are you still asking?

Mutt?  ....I see what you did there.

Posted by: eleven at June 15, 2012 12:31 PM (fsLdt)

219 Hey, any of you Morons in the Philly area, I just got a text that Romney will be at the Milford Wawa at 12:40 tomorrow.  I will try to go with my daughter and get some pics. 

Posted by: rockmom at June 15, 2012 12:31 PM (aBlZ1)

220 The  speaker  on  campus  yesterday  sucked !    A  honking  bus  sounded  better  informed. 

Posted by: Cuyahoga Community College at June 15, 2012 12:31 PM (c3mby)

221
sorry but I'm reminded of that scene in the restaurant in SCARFACE when Tony says, "It's okay. She'll take a Quaalude and she'll love me again."

relax, Mitt will make up for this soon and you'll love like him, again.




Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 12:31 PM (G/zuv)

222 219 I'm pretty sure that will come in further statements.

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2012 12:31 PM (Xb3hu)

223 Someone should overnight Obama a Rodney Dangerfield DVD. hehe

Posted by: I get no respect! at June 15, 2012 12:31 PM (HOOye)

224 oh shirt

did I?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 12:32 PM (G/zuv)

225 Meanwhile, Romney was busy judging a clogdancing contest in Pierre, South Dakota.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 12:32 PM (3GZGr)

226
220 A modest proposal: train the 800,000 to be journalists.

--------

Wait .... wut???  Journalists are TRAINED????

Posted by: fixerupper at June 15, 2012 12:32 PM (C8hzL)

227 123 "In the marketplace of ideas, MSNBC is the Qwik-E-Mart."

RaceTrac.

Pawn Shop

Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at June 15, 2012 12:32 PM (Bxm/r)

228 oh good, I thought I left the strikethrough on

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 12:32 PM (G/zuv)

229 Not Yet, but if he gets in? Stand by.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 04:30 PM (9TTOe)

;;;

Agreed, but please see #206.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 15, 2012 12:32 PM (jTKU5)

230 Remember that supposedly about a million illegals have LEFT the country and headed back to Mexico because of the SCOAMFing the past 3 years. I smell desperation at the White House. He's pulling an October surprise in June. Next week will be pardoning all student loans and the week after that mortgages. I wouldn't panic about this from an election standpoint. But it is a shocking violation of the rule of law. This alone makes Watergate look like a child's prank.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 15, 2012 12:33 PM (MCDCp)

231 where is Milford ?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 15, 2012 12:33 PM (SB0V2)

232 8 In the marketplace of ideas, MSNBC is the Qwik-E-Mart.

In the marketplace of ideas, MSNBC is a crackwhore with AIDS.

Posted by: Warden at June 15, 2012 12:33 PM (HzhBE)

233 In my second term, I'll have more flexibility to send people like Munro to GITMO.

Posted by: Barry Obama at June 15, 2012 12:33 PM (BVkEs)

234 #229

Ok Texas. You don't like Romney. What's your solution, spit it out, so you can stop reminding people how much you don't like Romney.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 15, 2012 12:33 PM (L7hol)

235 Mom!

Drew and Slublog are confusing me again!

"Vote for the RINO, It's important. Romney 2012."


Oddly enough, that actually meant that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 12:33 PM (piMMO)

236 DAmn, I didn't preview before hitting post. Ultimately, if you are on the voter roll, it's going to take an act of Congress, literally, to get you off, illegal or not. If you gum up the works for the states, you buy some time to keep your voters able to vote.

Posted by: moki at June 15, 2012 12:33 PM (dZmFh)

237 I wonder how obama treats his kids when they interrupt, because ya know all kids do?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 15, 2012 12:33 PM (j1gX1)

238 I see a coming boom in leafblower sales..

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 12:33 PM (3GZGr)

239 Dunno, sounds like Mitt just defused the fireworks that Obama was hoping for.

Posted by: I get no respect! at June 15, 2012 12:33 PM (HOOye)

240 Question - Did this just make Rubio or Martinez Mitt's VP pick?

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 15, 2012 12:34 PM (t06LC)

241 I bet he's not a White House correspondent tomorrow.

Posted by: d_fitz at June 15, 2012 12:34 PM (AnTLs)

242

Wait .... wut??? Journalists are TRAINED???

 

Sure. Most of them know to scratch at the door when they need to go outside.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 15, 2012 12:34 PM (ozSsd)

243 I wouldn't panic about this from an election standpoint. But it is a shocking violation of the rule of law.

Which begs the question of "If it violates rule of law and it's challenged, could this be tied up in court until after the election so Romney can reverse it?"

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 15, 2012 12:34 PM (e0xKF)

244 Romney said a month ago he agree with Rubio. Rubio is basically giving them work visas, no citizenship although they could apply at the back of the line.

Mitt wasn't strong enough though. He could have said he agrees with Rubio but he disagrees with Obama taking a dump on the constitution.

Posted by: robtr at June 15, 2012 04:30 PM (MtwBb)

 

And it should be an issue that should be so near the bottom on the "what do we do about the illegal immigrant problem" that they shouldn't even have a plan.  They should have a "we need to do X, Y, and Z before we even talk about this issue" response.  But nooooooo they want this to be priority number one.  Fuck Rubio for pushing that shit out there.

Posted by: buzzion at June 15, 2012 12:34 PM (GULKT)

245 Why is there even a push for a DREAM Act? Keep the existing laws and increase enforcement 10X. Problem solved.

Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 12:34 PM (1jv9o)

246 Work VISAs when un/underemployment is around 20%. Are you shitting me? What Planet is Mitt Generic and Rubio on?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 12:34 PM (9TTOe)

247 Soon, maybe next week, the next shoe will drop, and The One will issue an executive order directing the states to allow voter registration for these guest workers.

Count on it.

And that is just next week.

This fucker will executive-order his way all the way to the election.

I want cannabis next.

Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at June 15, 2012 12:34 PM (PH+2B)

248 Question (I know I am dumb) but isn't there a difference between being latino and being hispanic?

Posted by: Ma Bell at June 15, 2012 12:35 PM (uVuwp)

249
yeah, think of that way

The Obama camp would've have loved for Mitt to come out strongly against this. But he didn't take the bait.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 12:35 PM (G/zuv)

250 @NeilMunro: enjoy the audit, baby!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 15, 2012 12:35 PM (ozSsd)

251 Its time for me to go.  I have been hitting the bourbon.

Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2012 12:35 PM (YdQQY)

252

"In the marketplace of ideas, MSNBC is the Qwik-E-Mart."



RaceTrac.

Pawn Shop

7-Twelve.

 

Posted by: eleven at June 15, 2012 12:35 PM (fsLdt)

253 Scared to even try...

Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at June 15, 2012 12:35 PM (GBXon)

254
Mitt did good. This will die quickly in the news cycle and by Monday we'll be back to the Economy.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 12:35 PM (G/zuv)

255 Munro is going to get swatted pretty soon.

Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 12:35 PM (1jv9o)

256 Hell, I'm too conservative to be a Republican (left the party in 2007) and I know enough to vote fro Romney.

Just like I'd vote for a cold over cancer.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 15, 2012 04:28 PM (jTKU5)


Best summary of this election ever.

Posted by: Methos at June 15, 2012 12:36 PM (6LvlL)

257

 

If Romney comes out and criticises Barky....for making this EO....then, that will come back to bite him.

Because...there are a lot of things, like ObamaCare, that Romney has said he will immediately take care of....by Executive Order...if he is elected.

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at June 15, 2012 12:36 PM (M2JTb)

258 Does the executive branch fall under RICO?

Posted by: Pimpbot 5000 at June 15, 2012 12:36 PM (ggRof)

259 sweet england 3 sweden 2

Posted by: o/t euro 2012 - US Open at June 15, 2012 12:36 PM (HOOye)

260 You go Rick Perry. At least you got your version of the Dream Act passed by the legislature even though you are known to like EOs. Now I return you back to the normally schedule Romney bashing.

Posted by: polynikes at June 15, 2012 12:36 PM (2J4Qq)

261 The Obama camp would've have loved for Mitt to come out strongly against this. But he didn't take the bait.


****

His campaign has been very, very smart when many on our side have been all too eager to take the bait.

Remember the SuperPAC post?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 12:37 PM (piMMO)

262 Speaking of Mitt, has there been a reaction from his camp on this yet? I hope he hammers it home like he's been doing for the past few weeks.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 15, 2012 12:37 PM (MCDCp)

263
......  In Related News......

President Obama has issued another executive order all but guaranteeing a second term for the besieged president.

 AP has obtained a transcript of the order that reads as follows:

"I, President Obama, hereby declare a second term for my Presidency."

The President issued no further statements and took no press-corps questions.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 15, 2012 12:37 PM (C8hzL)

264 The Barry Campaign seems to be circling the drain more and more every day... and the GOP PR people have got to be hip deep in Barry/Slow Joe/Clueless Jay/Debbie Dimwit/Botox Nan/Harry Palm sound bites and gaffs - and there is nothing that the LSM can do to help their Messiah keep his exalted throne.

I bet that if he loses the election, he leaves town inauguration morning so he doesn't have to be seen with Mitt...

Posted by: Mjölnir the banhammer at June 15, 2012 12:37 PM (Jls4P)

265 244 Question - Did this just make Rubio or Martinez Mitt's VP pick?

I hope not.

NM is a lost cause, so Martinez is a waste. 

Rubio fucked up his response to this by emphasizing the end result and leaving the "it was unconstituional and illegal" comment until the end, almost as an afterthought.

Pick Jindal instead, who is a minority child of two legal immigrants as well as a Rhodes Scholar.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 15, 2012 12:37 PM (e0xKF)

266 drink water, Vic!

Posted by: o/t euro 2012 - US Open at June 15, 2012 12:37 PM (HOOye)

267 Ok Texas. You don't like Romney. What's your solution, spit it out, so you can stop reminding people how much you don't like Romney.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 15, 2012 04:33 PM (L7hol)

Most of the people here don't like him much either. We're not stupid. Jeez.

But we'll vote for Romney.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 12:38 PM (3GZGr)

268
Ace posted.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 12:38 PM (G/zuv)

269 Ok Texas. You don't like Romney. What's your solution, spit it out, so you can stop reminding people how much you don't like Romney.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 15, 2012 04:33 PM (L7hol

''''

There are certainly at least two alternatives available to those who think presidential elections are about satifying THEM.

1. Waste a vote on some fringe candidate.

2. Join the irrelevant 35% of the electorate that never votes.

 

What's funny is that these people will insist that no one is more conservative than they, but in the same breath decry the fact that a presidential candidate (who has to attract 135 million votes to win) isn't as conservative as they. It's called delusion. 

Posted by: Meremortal at June 15, 2012 12:38 PM (jTKU5)

270 >>Ever been asked to show your citizenship papers at the polls? Me neither.

Indiana required proof of citizenship for my driver's license, which was required at the poll.  It's pretty cool.

Of course, I don't know how they mark the legal-resident non-citizen (foreign students, etc) licenses or the drivers under 18.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 15, 2012 12:38 PM (ZKzrr)

271

259 Munro is going to get swatted pretty soon.

But...but...dissent is the highest form of patriotism n' stuff!  Wah!

Posted by: model_1066 at June 15, 2012 12:38 PM (YbQJm)

272

Now I return you back to the normally schedule Romney bashing

 

Seriously dude....just about everyone here has gotten behind your guy and your still getting butthurt over lightweight shit like this?

Posted by: eleven at June 15, 2012 12:38 PM (fsLdt)

273 -forgive mortgage debts

The only one that would affect me is the last one... and he still wouldn't get my vote....

Posted by: Mjölnir the banhammer at June 15, 2012 04:19 PM (Jls4P)


No way it would be for everybody, only the geniuses with homes underwater, Marianas Trench style.  Im a sucker for paying mine on time(or at all)

Posted by: Red Shirt at June 15, 2012 12:39 PM (FIDMq)

274
Remember the SuperPAC post?

umm, I'm drawing a meghan.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 12:39 PM (G/zuv)

275 @261 Yes, that's true. He should have focussed on the economic impact and backed up the Republican governors who have been in the trenches fighting this shit.

Posted by: Y-not, former Texan at June 15, 2012 12:39 PM (5H6zj)

276 Do not disrespect President Cardassian.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 15, 2012 12:39 PM (QcS9L)

277 @249 "...increase enforcement 10x..." really, we don't have the money for that. our municipalities are already strapped. the fed govt is the brokest govt (by relative debt) in the history of EVER. we just can't be diverting resources to decidedly non-economic ventures. the LAST thing we need is another bureaucratic money sink...and that's what "enforcement" always results in (cf.: how many MORE americans do drugs today, after so many years of 'increased enforcement' vs drugs?). unfortunately, this is a complex problem that requires a complex solution. @ma bell "latino" is classier. xD at least, that's how we cubans see it. there's no difference semantically, but i'd wager that a hispanic is much more likely to self-identify as "latino", as the word seems to have a more positive connotation than does "hispanic".

Posted by: jimi ray at June 15, 2012 12:39 PM (FcOR4)

278

Remind me again - what is the definition of the word "illegal"?

 

Isn't Government's responsibility to ensure that the citizenry DOESN'T break the law, and to protect  law-abiding citizens from those who don't follow the rules?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 15, 2012 12:40 PM (0xqzf)

279 All you Romneybots tell me again why we should vote for Mutt.

Eric Holder.

Steven Chu.

Timothy Geithner.

John Bryson.

And that's without using Google. Shall I continue?

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at June 15, 2012 12:40 PM (bjRNS)

280

Work VISAs when un/underemployment is around 20%. Are you shitting me? What Planet is Mitt Generic and Rubio on?

 

****

 

Most unemployed Ph.D.s in philosophy aren't smart enough to work a leaf blower or a hammer. 

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 15, 2012 12:40 PM (jUZRg)

281

@269

Jindal would be up there too. Its not about states, its about groups. A minority veep would blunt the intended effect of this attack while immunizing Romney from the "old white guys" hobbyhorse they dust off and ride like Pelosi after a TGI Fridays happy hour

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 15, 2012 12:41 PM (t06LC)

282 269 244
Question - Did this just make Rubio or Martinez Mitt's VP pick

Mel Martinez is actually ineligible for the presidency. No, this isn't a conspiracy theory. He was born in Cuba (and not an Army base or anything) and immigrated in 1962. I looked it up once.

Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 12:41 PM (1jv9o)

283 So we haven't had a convention, we don't have a platform, we don't have a VP, but we are not allowed to try to get our nominee to be firm on one of the key issues facing us? Got it. That's a recipe for success.

Posted by: Y-not, former Texan at June 15, 2012 12:41 PM (5H6zj)

284 Work VISAs when un/underemployment is around 20%. Are you shitting me? What Planet is Mitt Generic and Rubio on?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 04:34 PM (9TTOe)

 

Yeah that's a good point, except that they already are here and working.

 

The main problem with this is that ALL illegal aliens under 30 are going to get work visas, not just the kids of Aliens. There is no way they could know that or enforce it, plus they don't want to enforce it so it was basically amnesty for every illegal under 30.

Posted by: robtr at June 15, 2012 12:41 PM (MtwBb)

285

@283

Supreme Court Justice Eric Holder (or Hillary Clinton)

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 15, 2012 12:42 PM (t06LC)

286 Susanna not Mel

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 15, 2012 12:42 PM (G/zuv)

287

Pixy hates me, always screws up my formatting.

;;;;;

Time to get ready for tonight's gig, which is at a very happening club where the patrons like to dance their asses off and sometimes a few of the gals will flash some boobehs. Later, morons, I'll check in about 1:30 AM Mountain time.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 15, 2012 12:42 PM (jTKU5)

288 Another way to look at it - by Mitt  making "meh" noises, and giving an similar-yet-legal alternative, he does take the "hero" wind out of Obama's sails as he attempts so play Big Shot to his lefty base.


Look, ICE isn't deporting these older teens brought here as children anyway.  So in practical terms nothing much has changed.  They weren't sending them back before, and they aren't sending them back now. The only thing Obama has changed - and it's a biggie - is his stance that he is above the law. Oh, and that jobs can legally be taken away from  real citizens now.

In my opinion, that is what Mitt should focus on.  Rule of law, and jobs. 

Posted by: mama winger at June 15, 2012 12:42 PM (P6QsQ)

289

All you Romneybots tell me again why we should vote for Mutt.

Eric Holder.

Steven Chu.

Timothy Geithner.

John Bryson.

And that's without using Google. Shall I continue?

***

 

Sotomayor

 Release the Kagan!

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 15, 2012 12:42 PM (jUZRg)

290

I held my nose and voted for McCain.

I knew he'd fuck it all up with his wimpy RINOness and reach across the aisle bullshit.

And he did.

I just hope Romney doesn't. He seems a lot more savvy.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 12:42 PM (3GZGr)

291 The Martinez that should be considered is Susana Martinez, governor of NM. She was born in Texas.

Posted by: Y-not, former Texan at June 15, 2012 12:42 PM (5H6zj)

292

@286

Awesome.How about Susana Martinez, Gov. of NM

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 15, 2012 12:43 PM (t06LC)

293 "I don't think Romney should say he will reverse this EO. once we let these illegals have a work permit, its really mean-spirited to take it away." If Mitt Romney isn't willing to reverse this Executive Order, then why should I vote for him?

Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2012 12:43 PM (sEXZ/)

294 I don't know if it's unseemly or not, but Neil Munro seems to be having fun with this.

https://twitter.com/#!/NeilMunroDC

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 12:43 PM (piMMO)

295 Most unemployed Ph.D.s in philosophy aren't smart enough to work a leaf blower or a hammer. Posted by: WalrusRex at June 15, 2012 04:40 PM (jUZRg) That's bullshit. These Amnesty pricks always point to Agriculture when the real theft of jobs by illegals have come from construction and small factory jobs. Entry level jobs and family sustaining jobs like carpentry. Darn you, I'm sounding like a libtard.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 15, 2012 12:44 PM (9TTOe)

296

what is the definition of the word "illegal"?

***

 

That which is against the will of King Choom is illegal.

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 15, 2012 12:44 PM (jUZRg)

297 So they won't deport illegals under 30? And they won't deport illegals over 60? So we can only deport illegals age 31-59 who don't have children under 30? WTF?

Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 12:44 PM (1jv9o)

298

@283
Supreme Court Justice Eric Holder (or Hillary Clinton)

 

SupremeCourt Justice Obama's horse.

Posted by: eleven at June 15, 2012 12:44 PM (fsLdt)

299 so 3 or 4 years till this hits the Supreme Court? As you just know non-waivered illegals will sue the government under equal protection

Posted by: The Dude at June 15, 2012 12:44 PM (tw6Ar)

300 All you Romneybots tell me again why we should vote for Mutt.


-------

Commander in Chief. 

Posted by: mama winger at June 15, 2012 12:44 PM (P6QsQ)

301
In my opinion, that is what Mitt should focus on. Rule of law, and jobs.

Posted by: mama winger at June 15, 2012 04:42 PM (P6QsQ)

This. Eleventy.

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 15, 2012 12:44 PM (t06LC)

302 President Choom...hahahaha...

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at June 15, 2012 12:45 PM (4s7w4)

303 Its time for me to go. I have been hitting the bourbon.


****

either Jake Tapper or Major Garret tweeted yesterday that it is the anniversary of bourbon.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 12:45 PM (piMMO)

304 296 @286
Awesome.How about Susana Martinez, Gov. of NM

Born in El Paso, Texas though I'm not sure about her approval ratings in New Mexico. She was a tough prosecutor before she become governor.

Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 12:46 PM (1jv9o)

305 “There are enough laws on the books by Congress that are very clear in terms of how we have to enforce our immigration system that for me to simply, through executive order, ignore those congressional mandates would not conform with my appropriate role as President.”

Barry is a liar

Posted by: Land Shark at June 15, 2012 12:46 PM (e8kgV)

306

How about a VP that is not merely some half-assed purely AA pick?

You know, someone competent.

Remember the Michael Steele clusterfuck? I bet you do..

If a true conservative was running, it wouldn't matter as much, but that ain't Romney.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 12:46 PM (3GZGr)

307 ...In his next executive order, Obama declared himself "Presidente" saying he might as well make it an official banana republic, he was running the country that way anyhow.

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 15, 2012 12:47 PM (t06LC)

308

@283 Supreme Court Justice Eric Holder (or Hillary Clinton)

 

***

 

I doubt that there is a snowball's chance in a microwave of The Choomster appointing Hillary absent some very incriminating photos in Bill's desk or a massive transfer of money.  Or choom.

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 15, 2012 12:47 PM (jUZRg)

309 Born in El Paso, Texas though I'm not sure about her approval ratings in New Mexico. She was a tough prosecutor before she become governor.

Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 04:46 PM (1jv9o)

El Paso is in New Mexico.

The state line is 100 yards from where I'm sitting.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 12:48 PM (3GZGr)

310 IMHO, just complaining it's a rule violation or power-grab isn't a good response. Historically, individuals are willing to cede violations and impingement on liberties and the rule of law when times are economically hard -- see the 1930's in FDR's America or the drastic actions in the interwar period in Europe and Germany.

The proper line of attack is to couple his actions not to leadership but to narcissism -- that it's a calculated political act of self-preservation.

So:

"President Obama has failed to lead for the xxx days he's been in office on the economy, on creating jobs for the middle class. The democratic Senate, his party, has not produced or voted on a budget for this country in over a thousand days. 1000 days of no leadership from this president over his own party.

Now, with 150 days to go until his reelection, with his interests at stake, the president has decided it's time to unilaterally act without regard to the rules and the role of Congress where republicans such as Senator Rubio of Florida have been working on such a plan.

Leadership is about making the tough choices, of leading when nobody is watching, when it's in the interest of not just yourself, but the nation.

Blah, blah..."

Posted by: Uriah Heep at June 15, 2012 12:49 PM (JdSQO)

311 When I did some reading on Martinez, it sounded like she ran a very clear/honest campaign vis a vis her immigration policy. She's stronger than Romney on that issue. I'm still leaning Kyl because he doesn't weaken our bench, leave a seat open (he's retiring anyway), and he boosts Mitt in areas where he's weak.

Posted by: Y-not, former Texan at June 15, 2012 12:49 PM (5H6zj)

312 "MUNRO: Obama ignores questions about controversial de-facto amnesty decision"http://tinyurl.com/7f7x8y8

at the end of his story is the link to his twitter...
he does appear to be enjoying the notoriety.

Posted by: pooh at June 15, 2012 12:49 PM (oZfic)

313

Shit, stormy and TexasJew hanging out today?  It's a reunion episode!


Posted by: imp at June 15, 2012 12:49 PM (UaxA0)

314 310
Fine. Jindal. True conservative, healthy tan.

Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 12:49 PM (1jv9o)

315 Sorry about the formatting. I don't know what happened.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at June 15, 2012 12:49 PM (JdSQO)

316 Pick Jindal instead, who is a minority child of two legal immigrants as well as a Rhodes Scholar.


***

And is turning education upside down which, in LA, means he turning it right side up.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 12:50 PM (piMMO)

317 OK, Sean made me LOL on that one. I'm outta' here. Be good, homies.

Posted by: Y-not, former Texan at June 15, 2012 12:50 PM (5H6zj)

318 Jindal isn't a strictly AA pick. The man is highly intelligent and extremely competent. AA cred and immunization from RAAAACISM charges are just bonus points.

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 15, 2012 12:51 PM (t06LC)

319

From NRO:

 

"Romney was asked if he would reverse Obama’s order if he was elected — and didn’t respond."

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 15, 2012 12:51 PM (jUZRg)

320 Executive order is still not posted:  http://tinyurl.com/ycu245d

Posted by: pooh at June 15, 2012 12:51 PM (oZfic)

321 If a true conservative was running, it wouldn't matter as much, but that ain't Romney.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 04:46 PM (3GZGr)

;;;;

Do you spend your entire life rehashing the obvious to people who have already moved on?

Posted by: Meremortal at June 15, 2012 12:51 PM (jTKU5)

322

Yes, even I had to comment today.

This was the last straw...

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 12:51 PM (3GZGr)

323 322
I only wish he was from one of the swing states.

Posted by: Sean at June 15, 2012 12:52 PM (1jv9o)

324 From the Washington Post:

"Naturally, Martinez has some suggestions. First, Republicans should remind Latinos that Obama pledged to pass comprehensive immigration reform by the end of his initial year in office, but “didn’t even have the courage to try.” Next, the GOP should outflank the president — on the left — by proposing its own comprehensive plan. “I absolutely advocate for comprehensive immigration reform,” Martinez says, sipping a caramel macchiato. “Republicans want to be tough and say, ‘Illegals, you’re gone.’ But the answer is a lot more complex than that.” Martinez envisions an approach “with multiple levels”: increased border security; deportation for criminals; a guest-worker program for people who want “to go freely back and forth across the border to work”; a DREAM Act-style pathway to citizenship, through the military or college, for children brought here illegally by their parents; and a visa (coupled with a “penalty” or a “tagback”) that allows the rest of the illegal population to remain in the U.S. while they follow standard naturalization procedures."


Posted by: RioBravo at June 15, 2012 12:53 PM (eEfYn)

325 "I believe the status of young people who come here through no fault of their own is an important matter to be considered, and it should be resolved on a long-term basis.

"I believe the status of young people who come here through no fault of their own is an important matter on a long term basis so they know what their future will be in this country. I think the action that the president took today makes it more difficult to reach that longterm solution because an executive order is, of course, just a short term matter. It could be reversed by some president."

"I happen to agree with Marco Rubio. He said that this is an important matter. We have to find a long term solution but that the presidents action makes reaching a longterm solution more difficult. If I'm president we'll do our very best to have that kind of long term solution that provides certainty and clarity for the people who come into this country, through no fault of their own, by virtue of the action of their parents"

Posted by: robtr at June 15, 2012 12:53 PM (MtwBb)

326 spend your entire life rehashing the obvious to people who have already moved on?

Posted by: Meremortal at June 15, 2012 04:51 PM (jTKU5)

I had to explain it to you. Very slowly.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 12:53 PM (3GZGr)

327 Important newflash: I have discovered that shit stinks.

Posted by: TexianJew at June 15, 2012 12:53 PM (jTKU5)

328 328 was romney

Posted by: robtr at June 15, 2012 12:54 PM (MtwBb)

329 Awww fuck!

I love Cavuto, but he just waxed on and on, still waxing, in fact, about what an incredible father Obama is.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 12:55 PM (piMMO)

330

OK, that was pathetic.

Ciao.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 15, 2012 12:55 PM (3GZGr)

331 Just joshing with you TexasJew, I'm a 7th generation Texian myself. Deaf Smith was my gggg uncle.

Posted by: TexianJew at June 15, 2012 12:56 PM (jTKU5)

332 And 329 was regarding Susana Martinez, Gov. of NM
----
Aaaaaaaaaaaa

Posted by: RioBravo at June 15, 2012 12:56 PM (eEfYn)

333 322 Jindal isn't a strictly AA pick. The man is highly intelligent and extremely competent. AA cred and immunization from RAAAACISM charges are just bonus points.

Look at my posting name and figure out if you need to tell me that.

I've been seeing him around since he was head of Health and Hospitals under LA Governor Mike Foster when he was a whiz kid in his 20s.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 15, 2012 12:56 PM (e0xKF)

334

"Romney was asked if he would reverse Obama’s order if he was elected — and didn’t respond."

;;;;

Good, that's how gaffes happen. There is time to create a cogent response.

Posted by: TexianJew at June 15, 2012 12:57 PM (jTKU5)

335 That reporter got stones!

Posted by: B.O. at June 15, 2012 12:58 PM (mQMnK)

336 That was seriously one of the sloppiest suckings-of-cock I have ever seen!

I am stunned STUNNED that Cavuto went there!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 12:59 PM (piMMO)

337 I bet that if he loses the election, he leaves town inauguration morning so he doesn't have to be seen with Mitt... ------------------ Leave town? I'm seriously thinking that he'll be leaving the country. There's other lands that would more than welcome a dictator.

Posted by: Soona - banned but certainly not angry at June 15, 2012 12:59 PM (cQCm/)

338 "This was the last straw." Barack Obama and the Democrats have now made clear what they think of the 23 million Americans who cannot find a full-time job in America. They've put the interest of a bunch of illegal aliens AHEAD of the interests of law-abiding Americans who are struggling to find work in an economy that Barack Obama refuses to fix. It's not enough to fire Barack Obama. We have to fire all the Democrats. They've proven that they do not have our interests at the top of their list. When you vote on November 6, 2012 ... it's not enough for you to vote out Barack Obama. Because there is an entire political party behind him ready to step up and continue his work. You have to vote against Democrat Party Senators. You have to vote against Democrat Party Representatives. You have to vote against Democrat Party governors. You have to vote against Democrat Party mayors (especially ones who have made their cities "amnesty cities.") You have to vote against Democrat Party dog-catchers. Your country is being destroyed - systematically. If you don't act, it's already too late. It's time to end the Democrat Party in the United States.

Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2012 12:59 PM (sEXZ/)

339

Uh oh.  Things are not looking good for Bo.

 

" "A new study suggests that the Obama family's four legged companion is a political liability," Politico reports:

"In times of war or scandal, dogs are welcome public companions, but not so in periods of economic hardship," a George Washington University study of political pets find. . . .

"We surmise that diversionary pets are a political liability when their frolicking on the White House lawn in hard times might cue the public that not everyone in the country is suffering equally and that being president is not a full-time job," the study concludes."

 

And them there's Choomerino's culinary inclinations.

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 15, 2012 01:00 PM (jUZRg)

340 And them there's Choomerino's culinary inclinations.

Will the campaign be called the Barack Obama "Puttin' On The Dog" Tour?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 15, 2012 01:01 PM (e0xKF)

341 The poor prickly President Princess is finally realizing that he's having a bad term.

Posted by: Fritz at June 15, 2012 01:02 PM (ZN5qR)

342

I want to remind everyone that Romney is not a true conservative, water is wet, and fleas will bite.

 

You are welcome.

Posted by: CaptainObvious at June 15, 2012 01:05 PM (jTKU5)

343 Munro thoughtcrime. Unperson.

Posted by: General Zod at June 15, 2012 01:14 PM (2+bRt)

344
Fatty mad:

Meghan McCain ‏@McCainBlogette
Any politician or candidate should be allowed to finish their statement without being heckled by press. Ask questions when the time comes!

Meghan McCain ‏@McCainBlogette
I don't care how you feel about the president, since when does the press heckle the president?!? The disrespect is astounding.




Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2012 01:38 PM (kdS6q)

345 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2012 05:38 PM (kdS6q) Chimpy McWhatever.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 15, 2012 01:46 PM (bxiXv)

346 We are talking about Mexicans here, right?

The fastest growing segment of the Mormon sect?

Yeah .  So what's for lunch?

Posted by: Mutt the Unimpressive at June 15, 2012 01:47 PM (zsgo8)

347 wrong thread. still unimpressive.

Posted by: Mutt the Unimpressive at June 15, 2012 01:48 PM (zsgo8)

348 Helen Thomas interrupting Bush: http://tinyurl.com/yaot4fj

Posted by: Country Singer at June 15, 2012 01:51 PM (CPM02)

349 After cruising the Latino channels on cable, I can tell you that this didn't get Obama a lot.  Of course, this is just the beginning as far as they are concerned.

Meanwhile, as the DC reporter so aptly grasped, there are going to be problems with unemployed citizen's take on all of this.

Bottomline, this was an unforced mistake.  This was desperation.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at June 15, 2012 02:18 PM (e8kgV)

350 333 Awww fuck!

I love Cavuto, but he just waxed on and on, still waxing, in fact, about what an incredible father Obama is.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 15, 2012 04:55 PM (piMMO)

saw a clip of that, it was good, it was the right thing to do.  Seems he saw ace's little discussion of civility here and implemented it there.

Posted by: pooh at June 15, 2012 02:18 PM (oZfic)

351 Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at June 15, 2012 06:18 PM (e8kgV)

actually ole dylan, soon to be working elsewhere, ratigan on MSNBC seemed to think the administration somehow got wind of Rubio and the democrats introducing something on this.  He alluded to the fact that it was a sort of pre emptive strike.  He then went on to discuss the morality of this kind of political football.

Posted by: pooh at June 15, 2012 02:20 PM (oZfic)

352

The correct response to Prezzzy Whiney Pants is,

 Well you can kiss my grits!

Posted by: Comanche Voter at June 15, 2012 02:35 PM (6USwK)

353 It's raaacist to disagree with an African-American because they are morally pure while you are all racists because you are white because all white are racist! Obama is just trying to turn AmeriKKKa into something morally superior like Zimbabwe, where they overthrew their oppressors and now live with flowery meadows and rainbow skies, and rivers made of chocolate, where the children dance and laugh and play with gumdrop smiles. SOCIAL JUSTICE dictates we must purge ourselves of this Anglo-Saxon nonsense about "freedom."

Posted by: Social Studies Graduate Student at June 15, 2012 02:58 PM (XvHmy)

354 1. He thought the Pres was finished, 2 it was a Presser/Statement NOT a Speech. 3. I am STUNNED that the discussion is whether a reporter shocked that our President announced a Policy that is directly against US law and just bypassed the Legislative Process, tried to ask a Legit question. Some of the people FREAKING out over this really should watch Media Clips during the Watergate days. This President has a practice of "Punishing" any reporter or outlet that attempts to ask the questions that need need asked and subsequently, we no longer have a MSM. Get a grip people! He is not God but IS accountable to the people of this country. This President just announced a Policy that not only makes the job of Immigration enforcement impossible but mandates that illegals (800,000 give or take 10s of thousands) will not only be released but NOW issued work visas that will put them in direct competition with LEGIT Immigrant and American Citizens for Jobs, educational and job training opportunities. 

Posted by: wilkie4 at June 15, 2012 04:02 PM (f/j7U)

355 Don't call a "press conference" if you don't want questions conference implies two way communication instead have a press or news release. Tape it then release, what a bunch morons are occupying the White House and the lapdog MSM is carrying their water as usual.

Posted by: Oldcrow at June 15, 2012 04:46 PM (rAKo4)

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