October 16, 2012
— Ace Big roundup at Instapundit, but this is the one you want to see:
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Posted by: El Kabong at October 16, 2012 10:53 PM (HWj39)
Posted by: Filly at October 16, 2012 10:54 PM (247Qj)
Posted by: Born Free at October 16, 2012 10:57 PM (eTWFH)
Posted by: schizoid at October 16, 2012 10:57 PM (BQhYY)
Posted by: Country Singer (likes teh ginger ladies) at October 16, 2012 10:58 PM (+r4NB)
Posted by: Crith Mathiuth at October 16, 2012 10:58 PM (r535j)
Posted by: Icedog at October 16, 2012 11:00 PM (PTS+l)
Posted by: Filly at October 16, 2012 11:03 PM (247Qj)
I wouldn't be surprised if they thought they had. Liberals being poster children for competence and all.
Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2012 11:03 PM (6LvlL)
I count one Obama, one Romney, two lean Romney, a black guy who's just pissed that neither candidate pandered to black people, and a girl who's realizes Obama sucks, but can't quite go for Romney yet.
Time to "call" this election yet?
Posted by: Optimizer at October 16, 2012 11:03 PM (4MJt/)
Posted by: Crith Mathiuth at October 16, 2012 11:03 PM (r535j)
I still think that a lot of these "undecideds" just don't want to come out and admit that they're not voting for Barky.
Posted by: wheatie at October 16, 2012 11:05 PM (ipkPX)
To the black man sitting right in front of them, you mean?
Posted by: Filly at October 16, 2012 11:06 PM (247Qj)
Posted by: Crith Mathiuth at October 17, 2012 03:03 AM (r535j)
Maybe I'll finally get a raise now that Chris has stroked out.
Posted by: Lawrence O'Donnell at October 16, 2012 11:06 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Icedog at October 16, 2012 11:06 PM (PTS+l)
Posted by: Optimizer at October 16, 2012 11:06 PM (4MJt/)
Posted by: Demotard Journo who ass-rapes own-goal metaphor at October 16, 2012 11:06 PM (jKE+Z)
Favorite Obama In the Weeds moment of Debate 2: Jobs for Wimminz = Free Condoms!
Posted by: Filly at October 16, 2012 11:08 PM (247Qj)
And voters just like her are why Obama is toast.
Posted by: Clint at October 16, 2012 11:09 PM (Ya5KA)
Posted by: Optimizer at October 17, 2012 03:06 AM (4MJt/)
True, if you looked only at age, skin, and marital status...through a liberal prism...I'm sure the MSNBC folks were floored with the responses.
Posted by: Icedog at October 16, 2012 11:09 PM (PTS+l)
Posted by: Honey Boo Boo at October 16, 2012 11:10 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2012 11:10 PM (HWUYs)
"16 I count one Obama, one Romney, two lean Romney, a black guy who's just pissed that neither candidate pandered to black people, and a girl who's realizes Obama sucks, but can't quite go for Romney yet."
Oops. I meant "two Romney, one lean Romney ..."
Again, they tried to stack the deck with single women and a black guy (although I suppose the country might be roughly 1/8 black, so maybe that's fair), and only one of them delivered for Obama. That's amazing.
Posted by: Optimizer at October 16, 2012 11:10 PM (4MJt/)
Meanwhile back in households across America every undecided voter who watched, just yawned and said "that Romney ain't so bad huh"?
Posted by: Knightbrigade at October 16, 2012 11:11 PM (Q76p7)
How fugly are these women that they have to pay for their own BC anyway?
Girl: "Sure, we'll have sex, but I need you to buy the condom"
Boy: "Screw that noise...I'm outta here!"
Posted by: Icedog at October 16, 2012 11:12 PM (PTS+l)
Posted by: Last American Undecided Voter at October 16, 2012 11:13 PM (jKE+Z)
Posted by: Richard at October 16, 2012 11:13 PM (5t/xx)
19 "I still think that a lot of these "undecideds" just don't want to come out and admit that they're not voting for Barky."
To the black man sitting right in front of them, you mean?
I mean...across the country.
But yeah, now that you mention it....that might've been a factor in this focus group.
We've got a Thug in the White House.
And he has thugs who bully people, when they admit they're voting for Romney.
A lot of people just don't want to deal with that...so they say "I haven't decided yet"...to deflect the question.
Posted by: wheatie at October 16, 2012 11:14 PM (ipkPX)
Posted by: logprof at October 16, 2012 11:14 PM (jKE+Z)
Boy: "Screw that noise...we can still do anal, though."
Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2012 11:15 PM (HWUYs)
Watching the Luntz focus group replay (missed it last time) I'm floored.
My impression was that Romney ran the gauntlet, and came out without losing ground, but a lot of these formerly undecideds are just saying "Obama didn't deliver, and all he does is attack, while Romney seemed presidential and offered alternate solutions."
Holy crap!
Posted by: Optimizer at October 16, 2012 11:15 PM (4MJt/)
Given the last 4 years...
Can anyone say...Obama has moved this country in a "Positive" direction?
Posted by: Richard at October 16, 2012 11:17 PM (5t/xx)
Posted by: AussieMarcus at October 16, 2012 11:18 PM (RstsB)
Posted by: Optimizer at October 16, 2012 11:19 PM (4MJt/)
This person will then be likely to turn to someone who's opinion she trusts to ask how they are voting. Then vote that way.
Overall, that should be a net plus to Romney, as one of the main sources for advice will be her parents/grandparents. Those demos favor Romney in general.
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 16, 2012 11:19 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: logprof at October 16, 2012 11:20 PM (jKE+Z)
Is the MSM really going to ride this ship all the way to the bottom? This has really got to be the point-of-no-return for them.
IMO, they have about 48-72 hours to salvage whatever is left of their pathetic reputations...
Posted by: Icedog at October 16, 2012 11:20 PM (PTS+l)
Posted by: Adriane Loves the Classics but is Easily Confused at October 16, 2012 11:21 PM (/OhbZ)
Scrap yards and pawn shops are reporting record business. For them, bad is good.
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 16, 2012 11:22 PM (o4HGL)
Just for Ace, in case he's still up, I have to say it...
PREFERENCE CASCADE!!
Now go to bed and sleep very well. Great job, sir!
Posted by: Optimizer at October 16, 2012 11:22 PM (4MJt/)
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 16, 2012 11:22 PM (o4HGL)
42 So as I read it, the pundits went for Obama narrowly, but the Joe Publics went for Romney strongly?
Yep.
Barky came across as petty, and 'trying to act agressive'....telling the usual whoppers that he's gotten away with telling before.
The moderator tried to help him, repeatedly.
But it just drew attention to the fact that he needed help.
Romney came across as patient, respectful....and Presidential.
Posted by: wheatie at October 16, 2012 11:23 PM (ipkPX)
Posted by: logprof at October 17, 2012 03:20 AM (jKE+Z)
..and the accidental upskirt will blow your fucking mind! I'll try to post later.
Posted by: Icedog at October 16, 2012 11:23 PM (PTS+l)
>>Is the MSM really going to ride this ship all the wayto the bottom? This has really got to be the point-of-no-return for them.
You May Rely On It.
Posted by: Magic 8-Ball for the Preezy at October 16, 2012 11:24 PM (HWUYs)
No..
some high brow journilisto's are already putting on dresses to get on the lifeboats first. They want the paycheck going into 2013...
Posted by: Richard at October 16, 2012 11:24 PM (5t/xx)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 16, 2012 11:25 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at October 16, 2012 11:25 PM (jZn+7)
...but he's a tard and always holds the charts upside down.
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 16, 2012 11:27 PM (o4HGL)
"Besides, they will have a big enough corps or foaming lefties to keep some of them afloat."
Could it be time for "MSNBC 2, the Revolution!"
Posted by: Icedog at October 16, 2012 11:27 PM (PTS+l)
Posted by: logprof at October 16, 2012 11:28 PM (jKE+Z)
That word, decided ... I don't think it means what MSLSD thinks it means.
"Most people thought it was a draw, Chris."
WTF? Is that a solid B+?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 16, 2012 11:28 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Adriane Loves the Classics but is Easily Confused at October 16, 2012 11:29 PM (/OhbZ)
That lady in red behind Hannity during the Gillespie interview was fuckin' smokin'. Period.
- And she knew it. She was soooo show casing that fine ass.
Posted by: _Dave_ at October 16, 2012 11:31 PM (/nxRb)
Not a convincing argument to people looking for some actual hope.
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 16, 2012 11:31 PM (o4HGL)
Posted by: logprof at October 16, 2012 11:32 PM (jKE+Z)
Posted by: Serious Cat at October 16, 2012 11:33 PM (zrpqj)
Posted by: logprof at October 16, 2012 11:36 PM (jKE+Z)
Given the last 4 years...
Can anyone say...Obama has moved this country in a "Positive" direction?
"The lab results are back and......"
Posted by: sistrum at October 16, 2012 11:36 PM (SUlmX)
Did they bleep the "bullshitting" on the replay?
Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2012 11:36 PM (6LvlL)
@76...I constantly smack him down with facts and logic, but everyday he wakes up as if it's 'Groundhog Day'.
...with liberals, every day is a new day, with no memory of the past, and no concern for the future.
Posted by: Icedog at October 16, 2012 11:38 PM (PTS+l)
Posted by: d_fitz at October 16, 2012 11:41 PM (BZHvG)
I think for this one, God said, "Yeah, I did that in the last two and I'm kind of bored now. How about if I show what the MFM is instead?"
Posted by: Filly at October 16, 2012 11:46 PM (247Qj)
Ace,
I commented on here several months back (when Romney was close to locking up the nomination) regarding the asymmetrical nature of any presidential race where there is an incumbent.
My point was basically that any sitting president has 100% name-face ID among registered voters. But challengers who have yet to pick their running mates and hold their conventions are under 80%.
Anyway, what I believe is happening now is that the more voters start paying attention here in the home stretch, the more they get to know the challenger.
In this case the challenger is Romney, and the more they get to know him, the more they see that he's obviously a highly competent, highly intelligent and basically decent guy.
And as we get closer to election day, the undecided voters start to get more and more serious about what it means to cast a vote that will determine a direction for the next four years.
A couple of months ago, it was one thing for a swing/squish voter who was not really paying attention to give a nod in the direction of the president and say, "Yeah, he's doing alright. Isn't he? I sure know his face better than the new guy. Why shouldn't I vote for the president again? Sure, I'd probably do it again."
It's an entirely different thing for a swing/squish voter to be approaching a day of decision (by secret ballot) where there is a clear choice between directions, and the current direction sucks, and now he's basically comfortable with the new guy who represents the new direction for the next for years.
This isn't yessing some question that basically validates that you think the most well known man in America (the president) is alright by you.
This is privately laying down your marker for an actual approach and direction that you believe to be best for you, your family, and your country.
Posted by: _Dave_ at October 16, 2012 11:52 PM (/nxRb)
These people may not vote for Romney, but I bet most of them will NOT vote for Obama. They just will not vote.
But there is no way they were going to tell the truth to the big black guy asking them questions. They are truly the undecideds, with no strong sense of self. If they did have a strong sense of self and strong beliefs in their principles, they would not be undecided. They sure as hell are not going to offend the black guy, he might think they are racist. They are too meek and wishy-washy to make a stand.
"I like Obama as a Person." "almost there" "I think I am going to have to vote for Romney..."
If they had principles and strong beliefs then they would be able to decide on this election. They would not have trouble deciding Romney or TFG. These people would have trouble deciding paper or plastic; curly or waffle fries.
Posted by: rd does not belive the MSNBC group at October 16, 2012 11:52 PM (zLp5I)
Candy Crowley, in her eagerness to save Obama, may go down in history as the one who sunk him. She's now the object lesson in now NOT to run a debate.
Mitt flubbed the Libya j'accuse, but it's forgivable - he wasn't dealing with one opponent, he had to handle the (factually incorrect, as it turns out) flank attack from the "moderator" as well. Now that even Crowley acknowledges that Mitt was right, it'll be fair game in the next debate unless Obama does some serious housecleaning and a mea culpa or two before then. It's not the crime, it's the coverup...
This was a very important debate, and it's good that it happened now and that it went off the way it did. It's a very good thing that Crowley was so blatant, that her corpulent thumb was so visible on the scale.
Maybe, finally, the GOP will learn that it simply cannot accept press figures as moderators. Personally, I'd like to see the moderator wear a harness with a cable attached to it, such that the sucker could be whipped off the stage at the press of a button if they start to get Crowley-uppity.
Posted by: Candy Jowly at October 16, 2012 11:53 PM (o+SC1)
ABO voters are morphing into weak Romney supporters.
Weak Romney supporters morph into strong Romney supporters.
Agnostic oblivion voters are figuring out that Obama "ain't all that" and just need a nudge to become an weak ABO voter.
Romney doesn't come off as the ogre he's been painted as. That weakens the OBama campaign's cred.
There's a full spectrum shift going on. In another week, Obama will have bled another point or two across the board.
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 16, 2012 11:54 PM (o4HGL)
The more unfiltered direct exposure Obama gets, the worse he does.
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 16, 2012 11:57 PM (o4HGL)
Tonight Barack Obama was the kid with the hovering nana who can't do anything by himself, he has to have his mouth wiped and his shoes tied for him. Bless his heart.
Posted by: Candy Jowly at October 17, 2012 12:01 AM (o+SC1)
I still have a car payment
I still have a mortgage payment
I still have to buy my own gas
DAMNIT OBAMA!!!
Posted by: Sho Nuff at October 17, 2012 12:03 AM (jo0fs)
logprof @74
I only wish I did have a screen capture to share of that babe.
If you've got a DVR that's on FNC you can still rewind back to about 3:15am eastern standard time and see her voluptuous beauty. She's on screen for several minutes of the segment. Ooo la la.
Lady in Red behind Sean and Ed.
Posted by: _Dave_ at October 17, 2012 12:04 AM (/nxRb)
Romney and the RNC should really go on the offensive about Ms. Crowley. Demand a public apology broadcast at the beginnig of the next debate. Cut the MSM swine off at the knees by making an example of her. Fat, Stupid, Self-Important, and Biased is not very likable or sympathetic. Make an example of her. She ran her mouth before the debate about how she was above the rules, so she has no alibi.
Explain to the debate commission that either they give an apology and a promise for better behavior, or Monday is the last debate ever run by these clowns. Will the debate commission risk their cushy jobs?
Lay down the marker. The MSM coverage cannot get worse without it being any more obvious.
Posted by: rd does not belive the MSNBC group at October 17, 2012 12:04 AM (zLp5I)
Posted by: jimi ray at October 17, 2012 12:06 AM (79EF9)
Posted by: jimi ray at October 17, 2012 12:12 AM (79EF9)
I cannot think of a GOP nominee since Reagan who could have handled the moderator malfeasance as well.
Posted by: JEM at October 17, 2012 12:12 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 17, 2012 12:17 AM (C3KwS)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at October 17, 2012 12:20 AM (eEev7)
Posted by: Fielding Mellish at October 17, 2012 12:24 AM (IvvrO)
News Flash! That was NOT "Candy Crowley", it was John Lithgow in drag, just as in "TWA Garp". Sheesh, John Boy, get the lines and story straight!
Yo, Bammy-brutha, the AA POTUS, needed a clear and convincing "W" tonite and instead got two thirds of the national panel to say "Nope, draw or Mitt wins". You don't win anything with 37%, especially when yo' nanny has to help you even get to that number!
When you say you got 37, that means 63 said "NO" to your line of BS! These Lib-tards just don't get arithmetic, let alone math!
Posted by: earl t at October 17, 2012 04:58 AM (iHY8x)
This "women's issue" stuff makes it seem like women are still fighting for a vote. It is so "catch-phrase." This is what social media has turned a generation into: people without ideas, vocabulary or the ability to quickly make a decision on the facts they have. If you could look into their thought processes (or "word clouds"), you would see them thinking like this: "U R 2 a 4mer 8er"). Thank God they were not in charge for D-Day. Their idea would be, like Dear Leader's, to have committee meetings to discuss the pros and cons of killing Nazi's.
If you think I am getting a bit testy, irritable and cranky, you are correct.
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Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2012 10:51 PM (6LvlL)