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June 25, 2012

NBC's Deceptive Edit of Sandusky May Serve as Grounds for Appeal
— Ace

First -- of course Jerry Sandusky is guilty.

That's not the point here. The point is that the prosecutors relied upon NBC to provide an accurate edit of the Jerry Sandusky interview.

They were burned on that.

Lawyers for Jerry Sandusky sought a mistrial before his conviction for child sex abuse on the grounds that prosecutors showed jurors an inaccurate version of a bombshell NBC News interview with the former football coach, and the mistake may now form part of the basis for an appeal.
In response to a subpoena, NBC News turned over three versions of Bob Costas' NBC News interview with Sandusky, which aired last November on different NBC shows.
One of those versions, which was broadcast on the 'Today' show, contained an erroneous repetition of a key question and answer - about whether Sandusky was sexually attracted to young boys, Nils Frederiksen, a spokesman for the Pennsylvania attorney general said on Sunday.
The repetition, Sandusky's lawyers contend, made it appear to jurors that he was stonewalling.
"It wasn't noticed by (NBC News), it wasn't noticed by us, but it became obvious when it played in court," Frederiksen told Reuters.
...
Sandusky attorney Joe Amendola said NBC's error would form part of the basis for an appeal. "Oh my goodness, yes," he said, when asked about whether it could be used in an appeal.

I can't quote the whole thing, but they apparently knitted together two parts of the interview that were not actually connected. Bob Costas asked him if he was sexually attracted to young boys, and then Sandusky answered (according to NBC's edit) "Am I sexually attracted to young boys?" as if he was stonewalling, or attempting to delay answering, the way people do when hiding guilt.

The article doesn't say in what context those two statements actually appeared, but it appears they were not actually connected.

Big Journalism wants to know how many deliberately deceptive edits NBC's chief is comfortable with.

Apparently the answer is "at least five, and counting."

Posted by: Ace at 11:45 AM | Comments (252)
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1 what a surprise... not.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 25, 2012 11:47 AM (8MasJ)

2 rats (i should have posted "first" %-)

and Obama is a Stuttering Clusterf**k Of A Miserable Failure.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 25, 2012 11:48 AM (8MasJ)

3 Hide some Mexican bodies, get a child rapist a new trial, is there anything NBC can't do?

Posted by: Lauren at June 25, 2012 11:48 AM (2c6C/)

4
Bob Costas is 4 feet tall.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 11:48 AM (9Q7Nu)

5 It's starting to look like NBC is *incapable* of putting together an un-edited piece of film.

Posted by: Polliwogette, Teahada hobbit at June 25, 2012 11:48 AM (Qe7jo)

6 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 11:48 AM (8y9MW)

7
4' 10" at the most

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 11:49 AM (9Q7Nu)

8 It's no coincidence that Politico is going down while NBC flails... Breitbart was (all over that) here.

Posted by: connections downward at June 25, 2012 11:49 AM (HOOye)

9 I don't think any Moron has noted it yet, but an article is claiming that Sandusky's fellow prisoners are taunting him by chanting Pink Floyd lyrics.

Specifically, the line from "Another Brick In The Wall - Part II" that goes "Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone!"

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 25, 2012 11:49 AM (e0xKF)

10 Hey, we have a story to tell.

Posted by: NBC at June 25, 2012 11:49 AM (QKKT0)

11 Add to this that Sandusky's lawyers petitioned all the way up to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court stating that they were not adequately prepared to try the case.

Sounds like a strong ineffective assistance of counsel claim is in the making. I don't know what 6 additional months of preparation time for the defense would have hurt. (keep in mind, the Attorney General's office built its case over a course of years).

Posted by: Alec Leamas at June 25, 2012 11:49 AM (mg08E)

12 Can we prosecute the prosecutors for criminal naivete?

Posted by: eleven, team giggity at June 25, 2012 11:49 AM (KXm42)

13 Can I point out how stupid the prosecution was to use a TV interview as key evidence?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 11:50 AM (8y9MW)

14 Bob Costas is 4 feet tall. And, he always looks stoned.

Posted by: connections downward at June 25, 2012 11:50 AM (HOOye)

15 Why in the shit would the stupid prosecutor use a damned TV news show as evidence? Where in the hell was the judge?

Good Lord, if that guy walks because of that the damned prosecutor and the judge should be disbarred.

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2012 11:50 AM (YdQQY)

16 How hard is it to NOT deceptively edit things?

Posted by: Matt S. at June 25, 2012 11:50 AM (moRRg)

17 It's nearly the 4th of July, when we buy fireworks in bulk.

Posted by: NBC Dateline at June 25, 2012 11:50 AM (QKKT0)

18 I figured out interviews were purposefully edited when I was still ball-hairless.

Posted by: eleven, team giggity at June 25, 2012 11:50 AM (KXm42)

19
I wonder if Jerry Sandusky was sexually attracted to Bob Costas since Costas looks like a ten year old?

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 11:51 AM (9Q7Nu)

20 Sounds like a strong ineffective assistance of counsel claim is in the making. I don't know what 6 additional months of preparation time for the defense would have hurt. (keep in mind, the Attorney General's office built its case over a course of years).

I'm wondering more if "incompetent counsel" will be the appeal.

Sandusky's lawyer was obviously no rocket scientist given his statements to the press.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 25, 2012 11:51 AM (e0xKF)

21 Tune to us for the flaccid attempts at destruction of a Republican and stay for the release of a pedophile

Posted by: NBC at June 25, 2012 11:51 AM (136wp)

"Am I sexually attracted to young boys?"

Yes.

Posted by: Jim Messina at June 25, 2012 11:51 AM (p1nWj)

23 Fucking editing - how does that work?

Posted by: NBC at June 25, 2012 11:51 AM (Ky1+e)

Their deceptive editing of the 911 tapes in the Trayvon case....may also serve as grounds for an appeal if Zimmerman is convicted.

The NBC mothership is getting all tangled up in their own deceptions.

Posted by: wheatie at June 25, 2012 11:51 AM (0T8H7)

25 N-o B-asic C-redibility

Posted by: nickless at June 25, 2012 11:52 AM (MMC8r)

26 Can I point out how stupid the prosecution was to use a TV interview as key evidence?

I don't see a problem with that, but where was Sandusky's own attorney? He should have subpoenaed the uncut tape if he thought that there were edits. (His own client surely had to know there were.)

Posted by: Cicero at June 25, 2012 11:52 AM (QKKT0)

27 Great hustle on the tape editing, NBC!!!

Making Romney look foolish was pretty funny, so you did it again with Sandusky too. Except now there's a slight chance that Sandusky could get his whole case thrown out and escape justice for molesting 45 little boys.

GREAT JOB!!!

Posted by: EC at June 25, 2012 11:52 AM (GQ8sn)

28 They don't know NBC very well, do they- well, now they do Should've asked a blogger, NBC = just a bunch of mediocre hacks and Obamapologists

Posted by: Reaganite Republican at June 25, 2012 11:52 AM (qfiA8)

29 N Nefarious B Bunch of C Cods

Posted by: connections downward at June 25, 2012 11:53 AM (HOOye)

30 Its called ineffective assistance of counsel and can result in a re-trial

Posted by: Thunderb at June 25, 2012 11:53 AM (Dnbau)

31 >>>The point is that the prosecutors relied upon NBC to provide an accurate edit of the Jerry Sandusky interview.

You mean NBC when supplied a subpoena for evidence to use in a child rape case doctored that evidence before providing it? Is doctoring tape so common at NBC that it never occurs to them *not* to do it?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 25, 2012 11:53 AM (0q2P7)

32 Wait.. Sandusky's a REPUBLICAN?

Posted by: nickless at June 25, 2012 11:53 AM (MMC8r)

33 I thought his lawyers were crazy to put him on the air like that. Turns out they were crazy like a fox, and were counting on NBC to do what NBC does. Yeah, not going to be enough though.

Posted by: Dave S. at June 25, 2012 11:53 AM (bxpf3)

"Am I sexually attracted to young boys?"

Yes. Yes I am.

Posted by: Mohammed at June 25, 2012 11:54 AM (p1nWj)

35 Open Sandusky's cell door. Turn off the lights. This whole situation would be over in one night. And how much would that cost?

Posted by: Dang at June 25, 2012 11:55 AM (Ky1+e)

36 Posted by: nickless at June 25, 2012 03:53 PM (MMC8r)

Of course he is. He raped children..what else could he be.

Posted by: Journalism school geniuses at NBC at June 25, 2012 11:55 AM (nEUpB)

37 I thought his lawyers were crazy to put him on the air like that. Turns out they were crazy like a fox, and were counting on NBC to do what NBC does.

IMHO, they were still crazy. As in, not like a fox.

Posted by: Cicero at June 25, 2012 11:55 AM (QKKT0)

38
Look, the UE and GDP numbers are coming out in two weeks.

They're gonna be lousy. UE rate might even go up. Obama will get his illegal-lovin ass spanked, then.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 11:55 AM (9Q7Nu)

39 Sloppy of the prosecution to not request a full transcript and complete tapes with timing shown on the tapes (and the transcript). They had to know that would exist.

Posted by: Y-not at June 25, 2012 11:55 AM (5H6zj)

40 Irony isn't the right word, but it would be something if a major "news organization" and the MFM in general is finally reduced to ashes not due to overt political bias and lack of credible independence, but this complete flanging of justice?

Posted by: The Hammer at June 25, 2012 11:55 AM (wo1YR)

41 Could this really form the basis of an appeal? Would it be enough to overturn the verdict?

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at June 25, 2012 11:55 AM (RD7QR)

42 Can the men that have to testify again because NBC f'd up sue NBC because they have to testify again?

Posted by: rd at June 25, 2012 11:56 AM (9sUlj)

43 They're gonna be lousy. UE rate might even go up. Not after he executive-orders it down.

Posted by: nickless at June 25, 2012 11:56 AM (MMC8r)

Tom Brokaw must be turning over in his grave.

Uh..oh...wait...eh..

Posted by: Tom Brokaw at June 25, 2012 11:56 AM (eavT+)

45 The MSM's deceptive editing would come back to bite them. Helping a convicted child rapist will do more to give them their comeuppance than any of us could. They played with fire and finally got burnt.

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 25, 2012 11:56 AM (XvHmy)

46
Not after he executive-orders it down.

Rule by decree!

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 11:56 AM (9Q7Nu)

47 Sandusky attorney Joe Amendola said NBC's error would form part of the basis for an appeal. "Oh my goodness, yes," he said, when asked about whether it could be used in an appeal.

More like the basis for a malpractice suit.

Posted by: Cicero at June 25, 2012 11:56 AM (QKKT0)

48 Sandusky and Paterno both registered republicans apparently. Goody.

Posted by: Thunderb at June 25, 2012 11:57 AM (Dnbau)

"Am I sexually attracted to young boys?"

Yes. But not Oliver.

Posted by: Mike Brady at June 25, 2012 11:57 AM (p1nWj)

50 Not after he executive-orders it down.

Posted by: nickless at June 25, 2012 03:56 PM (MMC8r)

HAHAHA!!! I'd love to see Obama go down to BLS and EO another 50 million people into unpersons.

Posted by: EC at June 25, 2012 11:57 AM (GQ8sn)

51 >>>And how much would that cost?

You could save money on electricity.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 25, 2012 11:57 AM (0q2P7)

52
In Shamelot,
In Shamelot,

The Unemployment never goes above three

In Shamelot,
In Shamelot,

And the water stays level in the sea

In Shamelot,
In Shamelot,

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 11:58 AM (9Q7Nu)

53 You fucked up. You trusted us.

Posted by: NBC at June 25, 2012 11:58 AM (MMC8r)

da Zero may issue Sandusky a pardon. After all, it would help him with his OWS base.

Posted by: maddogg at June 25, 2012 11:59 AM (OlN4e)

"Am I sexually attracted to young boys?"

Yes. I like to play Tarzan with them.

Posted by: Bike Shop Owner from a very special episode of 'Different Strokes' at June 25, 2012 11:59 AM (p1nWj)

56 >>>The point is that the prosecutors relied upon NBC to provide an accurate edit of the Jerry Sandusky interview.

Does this open up possibilities for criminal charges against anyone at NBC?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 25, 2012 11:59 AM (/kI1Q)

57 Sine your pitty on the runny kine.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 25, 2012 12:00 PM (Gye7Z)

58 About that violence and liberal meme... New Black Panthers Threaten to Kill Crackers Â– SHOWDOWN at RNC Posted by Jim Hoft http://tinyurl.com/cp6ywvj Racist crackers gotta die. The St. Pete Â– Tampa New Black Panthers are tweeting out threats to murder whitey.

Posted by: this is exactly what obama wants at June 25, 2012 12:00 PM (HOOye)

NBC will probably come out with a 'disclaimer' now....

"Our broadcast are for entertainment purposes only...and should not be used as evidence in any legal proceeding."

Or something like that.

Posted by: wheatie at June 25, 2012 12:00 PM (0T8H7)

60 Hopefully they go bankrupt and get sold to Fox or something.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 25, 2012 12:01 PM (caAEA)

If they are going to use the fact that "NBC sucks" for their appeal, they should also throw in "water is wet".

Posted by: Roy at June 25, 2012 12:01 PM (VndSC)

62 "Am I sexually attracted to young boys?"

------

No.... I like mine a little older.

Posted by: Zombie Zed vis a vis Pulp Fiction at June 25, 2012 12:01 PM (C8hzL)

63 Could this really form the basis of an appeal? Would it be enough to overturn the verdict?

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at June 25, 2012 03:55 PM (RD7QR)

--------------------------------------------

I'm sure NAMBLA is a big SCOAMT donor. There'll be a pardon issued very late at night toward the end of Baraka's term.

Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2012 12:01 PM (AdWAw)

64 Obviously, the prosecutors are idiots. The MFM is in the business of shaping public perception, not reporting facts accurately.

Posted by: maddogg at June 25, 2012 12:01 PM (OlN4e)

I wonder how the Comcast Executives and the Board of Directors feel about this?

There asset is being tarnished and the value is being diminished. Maybe they should take action?

Posted by: rd at June 25, 2012 12:02 PM (9sUlj)

"Am I sexually attracted to young boys?"

No. I was doing research.

Posted by: Pete Townsend at June 25, 2012 12:02 PM (p1nWj)

67 News broadcasts are admissible in court? Who knew.....

Posted by: © Sponge at June 25, 2012 12:03 PM (UK9cE)

68 If the one thing that convinced a juror was the appearance of stonewalling and not the testimony and evidence, that's an issue.

That said, another bang-up job by NBC. They've been editing the hell out of interviews for a long time, though, otherwise no one would have thought Katie Couric had journalistic chops.

Posted by: Karusky at June 25, 2012 12:03 PM (dKyuh)

69 68 Augh ... THEIR asset.

Posted by: rd at June 25, 2012 12:04 PM (9sUlj)

70 "News broadcasts are admissible in court? Who knew....."

A party's own words may be in most circumstances. I do believe he admitted to "horsing around in the shower" with boys in the interview.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at June 25, 2012 12:05 PM (mg08E)

71 Suckers of cock. Wait ... what?

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pallor at June 25, 2012 12:05 PM (QupBk)

72 4' 10" at the most

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 03:49 PM (9Q7Nu)

Wiki says he's 5'7" if you believe anything they say.

Posted by: © Sponge at June 25, 2012 12:05 PM (UK9cE)

73
N-o
B-asic
C-redibility
Posted by: nickless at June 25, 2012 03:52 PM (MMC8r)

N-o
B-elievable
C-overage

Posted by: © Sponge at June 25, 2012 12:06 PM (UK9cE)

74 News broadcasts are admissible in court? Who knew.....

Not news broadcasts. An interview with a suspect. This consists of the suspect's statements. If they're incriminating, they're fully admissible as admissions. That's why it's such a mystery why his attorneys let him go on TV in the first place.

Posted by: Cicero at June 25, 2012 12:06 PM (QKKT0)

75 http://tinyurl.com/cp6ywvj

Racist crackers gotta die.
The St. Pete Â– Tampa New Black Panthers are tweeting out threats to murder whitey.

Posted by: this is exactly what obama wants at June 25, 2012 04:00 PM (HOOye)

Phew...they're really just after the pink people.

Posted by: dananjcon at June 25, 2012 12:06 PM (eavT+)

Posted by: Cicero at June 25, 2012 12:06 PM (QKKT0)

77 It has been said so many times and in so many ways but it bears repeating. If you relied upon NBC to provide an accurate edit of anything, you are a world class gold plated fucktard.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at June 25, 2012 12:06 PM (SDkq3)

78 Thanks, NBC.
Thanks, GE.
Thanks, Mr. Immelt.
Thanks, Mr. President.

Chain of fools.

Posted by: PJ at June 25, 2012 12:06 PM (DQHjw)

79 Faux News! Faux News!

Posted by: nickless at June 25, 2012 12:06 PM (MMC8r)

80 Screw these italics.

Posted by: Cicero at June 25, 2012 12:07 PM (QKKT0)

81 "Our broadcast are for entertainment purposes only...and should not be used as evidence in any legal proceeding." No accuracy is implied. Use at your own risk. Not applicable in Alabama, Texas, or Alaska or where prohibited by law.

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pallor at June 25, 2012 12:07 PM (QupBk)

82 "I like little boys... that look black".

Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 25, 2012 12:07 PM (Njb/E)

83 We told you. We <i>produce</i> the news .

What did you think we meant?

Posted by: MSM at June 25, 2012 12:07 PM (zsgo8)

84 I deal with both sides of the bar on both sides of cases both civil and criminal.... how many times do you have to explain to these morons that the only acceptable piece of video that won't bite you in the kiester is the raw unedited recording.

Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at June 25, 2012 12:07 PM (L4CWX)

85 Zombie Shane is mad that Sandusky looked him over and just said 'Pass.'

Posted by: nickless at June 25, 2012 12:07 PM (MMC8r)

86 tagfail ......urp

Posted by: MSM at June 25, 2012 12:08 PM (zsgo8)

Freedom of Speech! We have the right to deceptively edit anything we want to...to forward our own agenda.

Posted by: NBC douchebags at June 25, 2012 12:08 PM (0T8H7)

Would an appeal be enough to get the pedophile out on appeal while waiting for the next trial?

At his age he knows that that is the only way he gets out of jail before he croaks. And he has to be grasping at straws by this time. Or is he going to accept that he is an evil person and deserves to rot in jail?

Posted by: rd at June 25, 2012 12:09 PM (9sUlj)

89 A party's own words may be in most circumstances. I do believe he admitted to "horsing around in the shower" with boys in the interview.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at June 25, 2012 04:05 PM (mg08E)

But, as previously mentioned, wouldn't you need the raw footage and not something that aired? I think this is a HUGE error on the prosecutions part.

Posted by: © Sponge at June 25, 2012 12:09 PM (UK9cE)

90
Wiki says he's 5'7" if you believe anything they say.

It's rare, but when the camera pans back, Costas' feet don't touch the floor.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 12:09 PM (9Q7Nu)

91 It's rare, but when the camera pans back, Costas' feet don't touch the floor.

That's just because he's happy.

Posted by: eleven, team giggity at June 25, 2012 12:10 PM (KXm42)

92 NBC has a long history of this crap here's an example from1993.

Where NBC Went Wrong The network suffers a humiliating bout of confessions and soul-searching after admitting it rigged the crash-and-burn of a GM truck

http://tinyurl.com/mtptnj

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 25, 2012 12:12 PM (tf9Ne)

84"Our broadcasts are for entertainment purposes only...and should not be used as evidence in any legal proceeding."

No accuracy is implied. Use at your own risk. Not applicable in Alabama, Texas, or Alaska or where prohibited by law.

----------

This is good stuff. We are working on a disclaimer such as this, and may incorporate this into our work product.

Posted by: NBC douchebags at June 25, 2012 12:13 PM (0T8H7)

94 Sandusky's attorney is blowing smoke. He allowed his client to be interviewed on TV. He had to know the tape would be used as evidence. He also had to know that the tape had been edited, yet he never bothered to obtain the raw footage from NBC. He just fucked up, and no appellate court is going to overturn a verdict because the attorney was too lazy to do his job.

And the "ineffective assistance of counsel" strategy isn't going anywhere. Those claims win only when the representation was egregious. Like, counsel was sleeping through parts of the trial or was seriously impaired by drugs, alcohol or a true mental disability. Run-of-the-mill attorney negligence doesn't cut it.

Posted by: Cicero at June 25, 2012 12:13 PM (QKKT0)

95 Oh, crap. From what I'm hearing about Brave (yes, I want to see it. No, you may not have my man-card), we need a "Brave" "Crossbow v Longbow" thread.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 12:13 PM (8y9MW)

the mistake may now form part of the basis for an appeal.

Well the defense wouldn't be diong their job if they didn't appeal. The question is, how big of a part?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 25, 2012 12:14 PM (d0Tfm)

97 "But, as previously mentioned, wouldn't you need the raw footage and not something that aired? I think this is a HUGE error on the prosecutions part."

Both sides would be entitled to the complete material. Typically, both sides would know that the tape is edited and the defense would file a MIL or seek suppression of the edited tape. Of course, a prosecutor wouldn't (shouldn't) knowingly offer an edited tape if the edits are misleading because a defense lawyer could then blow up the prosecutor's credibility.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at June 25, 2012 12:15 PM (mg08E)

98
I just noticed the newest story in the sidebar.

Without looking, I'll bet my leftnut that Blackberry is on that list.

Any takers?

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 12:15 PM (9Q7Nu)

99 I think this is a HUGE error on the prosecutions part.

It's a HUGE error on the defense's part. The prosecution didn't make up those statements. Sandusky said them. If there are other parts of the tape that are needed to put them in proper context, it's the job of the defense to show that to the jury.

Posted by: Cicero at June 25, 2012 12:15 PM (QKKT0)

100 Actually, it was in context but they looped it twice. It made it appear as if he didn't answer the question, so it was asked again. It then appeared he refused to answer a second time.

The prosecutors realized the error at trial and the judge instructed the jury to only consider the transcript which was accurate. I don't see this going anywhere.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at June 25, 2012 12:15 PM (Gkhxf)

101 I'll bet my leftnut that Blackberry is on that list.

No. Since it's mentioned in the blurb. Research In Motion is the company that makes the Blackberry.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 12:16 PM (8y9MW)

102
Is SEARS on that list?

How about Current TV?

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 12:16 PM (9Q7Nu)

103 Whoops, quoted wrong part of that.

No, you won't get any takers on your bet.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 12:16 PM (8y9MW)

104
Dammit, I shoulda known that.

I knew it sounded familiar.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 12:17 PM (9Q7Nu)

105 I'm not understanding. It was a court of law, evidence was produced, a jury of his pears had him guilty on 45 of 48 counts.

Isn't the Costas interview in the court of public opinion only?

Posted by: food tester at June 25, 2012 12:18 PM (oZfic)

106 so the prosecution submitted lies as evidence? sure, they didn't know, they said so. amazing how the mistakes never seem to lean the other way though, toward exoneration.

Posted by: Ron Fucking Swanson at June 25, 2012 12:18 PM (KHo8t)

107 Can the PA taxpayers sue NBC for the cost of the prosecution, appeal and the retrial? And by can I mean someone should file that suit, if only for the lulz.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 25, 2012 12:19 PM (VtjlW)

108

Is SEARS on that list?

I doubt it, but I wouldn't be surprised to see K-Mart on it (a Sears division). The last few times I've been to the one here close to the house, it was a wreck.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 25, 2012 12:19 PM (d0Tfm)

109
yeah, that was a smart buy by Sears

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 12:21 PM (9Q7Nu)

110 >>a jury of his pears had him guilty on 45 of 48 counts

They threw out all the apples and peaches in voir dire, eh?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 25, 2012 12:21 PM (/kI1Q)

111 The NBC brand deserves to be on that list.

Posted by: wheatie at June 25, 2012 12:21 PM (0T8H7)

112 Another Dem. Congressman Refuses to Endorse Obama 11:33 AM, JUN 24, 2012 Â• BY DANIEL HALPER President Obama's reelection problems continue in North Carolina, the state that's hosting this year's Democratic National Committee convention later this year. Congressman Mike McIntyre, a Democratic representative of North Carolina's Seventh Congressional District, is now refusing to endorse President Obama.

Posted by: tasker at June 25, 2012 12:22 PM (r2PLg)

113
btw, 3 years ago the print media was all but dead

what's been keeping them afloat?

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 12:23 PM (9Q7Nu)

114 "And the "ineffective assistance of counsel" strategy isn't going anywhere. Those claims win only when the representation was egregious. Like, counsel was sleeping through parts of the trial or was seriously impaired by drugs, alcohol or a true mental disability. Run-of-the-mill attorney negligence doesn't cut it."

To be fair, I don't know tat it is a strategy. Sandusky's lawyers basically told the highest Court in the Commonwealth before the trial that they were not prepared to try the case. The Attorney General's office built its case over a course of years (beginning in 2009) and Amendola had only 8 months to get up to speed. That's a gross disparity. I think he's guilty as sin but I still believe that the defense should have had adequate time to prepare in a complex case where the punishment is essentially life in prison. The facts and evidence were strong enough that 6 additional months for Amendola with Sandusky under house arrest wouldn't have affected the outcome, and would have removed or greatly diminished an appealable issue.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at June 25, 2012 12:23 PM (mg08E)

115 Oh you stupid motherfuckers. Good God, if this monster gets a new trial because of these thumblessly inept halfwits, I'm going to get really stabby.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 25, 2012 12:24 PM (WYOrt)

116 President Obama's reelection problems continue in North Carolina, the state that's hosting this year's Democratic National Committee convention later this year.

That's got to sting. How does that not make the news when it's convention time?

Okay, I know how- the MFM will simply ignore it- but it certainly should make the news.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 12:24 PM (8y9MW)

117

Another Dem. Congressman Refuses to Endorse Obama

Preference Cascade = Surf's UP! Last one in's a rotten egg!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 25, 2012 12:24 PM (d0Tfm)

118

Bob Costas is 4 feet tall.

Dude, yes. I'm pretty sure that I'm taller than Costas and I'm a hobbit.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 25, 2012 12:25 PM (VtjlW)

119 OT: SCOAMT is at again with the $3 fundraising e-mails. Now a staffer says Bark has been known to write thank you notes to babysitters. Yeah, that did it. I've changed my mind and will now enter the contest, just for the chance His Imperial Majesty might write a note to a babysitter.

Link to Washington Examiner:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/7ms3guk

Posted by: Retread at June 25, 2012 12:26 PM (I2fq9)

120 NBC: Who are you going to believe, us journalists or your lying eyes and ears?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2012 12:26 PM (1Jaio)

121 Let's hope all Dems are singing this song... http://tinyurl.com/bssvo4x

Posted by: flipping at June 25, 2012 12:26 PM (HOOye)

122 4
Bob Costas is 4 feet tall.
Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 03:48 PM

He plays center on Bill Maher's b-ball team.

Posted by: irright at June 25, 2012 12:26 PM (RzLbD)

123 Deceptive Edits R' Us

Posted by: PMS-NBC News at June 25, 2012 12:27 PM (+XVQe)

124 Real Clear Politics has a link to the WaPo with this title: Why Supreme Court May Do Unthinkable Within a matter of months, the fact that the individual mandate was unconstitutional was as much a part of Republican Party dogma as Â“no new taxes.Â” All of this forced the controversy over the individual mandate into the mainstream media, too. After all, if one of AmericaÂ’s two major political parties thinks the most significant health reform since Medicare is unconstitutional, well, thatÂ’s a story! They forced us to report this!! --Ezra Klein

Posted by: tasker at June 25, 2012 12:27 PM (r2PLg)

125 Now a staffer says Bark has been known to write thank you notes to babysitters.>>>

In lieu of paying them?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 25, 2012 12:27 PM (tf9Ne)

126 I doubt the court will order a new trial. Initially, I thought it's still great b/c the MSM will be humiliated once again and may stop this crap. Rethinking it, no they won't. They think nothing they do is wrong. Nothing.

Posted by: Redd at June 25, 2012 12:29 PM (MlggS)

127 Interesting times, people. Interesting times.

Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2012 12:29 PM (AdWAw)

128 That's got to sting. How does that not make the news when it's convention time? Okay, I know how- the MFM will simply ignore it- but it certainly should make the news. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 04:24 PM (8y9MW) ******** Weird...I posted the Ezra Klein crapola before reading you here... but hell--Ezra has your answer!

Posted by: tasker at June 25, 2012 12:29 PM (r2PLg)

129
But if a "consensus" of "scientists" say the sea levels are gonna rise (but only one side of the Atlantic)...well, that's a story!

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 12:30 PM (9Q7Nu)

130

He plays center on Bill Maher's b-ball team.

Posted by: irright at June 25, 2012 04:26 PM (RzLbD)

Now that was funny, right there.

Posted by: ErikW at June 25, 2012 12:30 PM (y4M8G)

131 Now a staffer says Bark has been known to write thank you notes to babysitters.

I don't believe it for a minute. The Obamas are exactly the kind of people who tip like crap, never say "thank you," and barely even acknowledge your presence if you're "the help."

And babysitters? By the time they had kids, I'm betting they had a full-time nanny.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 12:30 PM (8y9MW)

132 Speaking of the misleading MSM, here's a funny: http://goo.gl/OEam0

Posted by: Redd at June 25, 2012 12:30 PM (MlggS)

133 I hope they let Sandusky go out into the prison's general population. Faster please

Posted by: Not an (angry) Artist at June 25, 2012 12:30 PM (uRumV)

134 @ 130 Probably. He says nothing about pay, but will likely have the IRS check that they report the money as income.

The other funny is the staffer claims he enters each "contest" just to make sure they are run properly. People that stupid aren't likely to be able to send or read e-mail.

Posted by: Retread at June 25, 2012 12:31 PM (I2fq9)

135
If the media suddenly takes an interest in Michelle Obama's huge muscular arms, well, that's a story!

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 12:31 PM (9Q7Nu)

136 @FredThompson Boehner memo to GOP: "no spiking of the ball" if Obamacare is overturned. Fine, we'll just move right along to leaping into the stands

Posted by: Retread at June 25, 2012 12:32 PM (I2fq9)

137 All of this forced the controversy over the individual mandate into the mainstream media, too. How in the hell is he even writing that with a straight face-? GAWD!

Posted by: tasker at June 25, 2012 12:32 PM (r2PLg)

138 I don't want Thursday to come, but yet I can't wait for it. Am I living in a dichotomy?

Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2012 12:33 PM (AdWAw)

139 140 If the media suddenly takes an interest in Michelle Obama's huge muscular arms, well, that's a story! Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 04:31 PM (9Q7Nu) ******** Jeebus--the irony. Ann Romney should name her horse-- Unconstitutional.

Posted by: tasker at June 25, 2012 12:34 PM (r2PLg)

140
After all, if one of AmericaÂ’s two major political parties thinks ~~the most significant health reform since Medicare is unconstitutional~~ it's okay to destroy an entire health care system to gain political power, well, thatÂ’s a story!

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 12:34 PM (9Q7Nu)

141

NOTHING

BUT

CRAP

Posted by: runningrn at June 25, 2012 12:34 PM (WGmy2)

142

Dude, yes. I'm pretty sure that I'm taller than Costas and I'm a hobbit.

When describing a woman, the formal term is 'Spinner'.

Posted by: garrett at June 25, 2012 12:34 PM (p1nWj)

143 Oh wait... she doesn't have to.

Posted by: tasker at June 25, 2012 12:34 PM (r2PLg)

144 @FredThompson Boehner memo to GOP: "no spiking of the ball" if Obamacare is overturned. Fine, we'll just move right along to leaping into the stands Posted by: Retread

Spike them? Dip, Boehner, dip them.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at June 25, 2012 12:36 PM (famk3)

145 After all, if ~~a Presidential candidate has a baby with a mistress bought and paid for with campaign funds~~ well, thatÂ’s NOT a story!

Posted by: tasker at June 25, 2012 12:36 PM (r2PLg)

146

James Fallows UPDATE....from Althouse:

James Fallows regrets "5 Signs the United States is Undergoing a Coup" as the title of his attack on the Supreme Court.

It's now "5 Signs of a Radical Change in U.S. Politics."

http://tinyurl.com/7oqdwtr

Posted by: CJ at June 25, 2012 12:37 PM (9KqcB)

147 Today, we have Andrea MitchellÂ’s spectacularly lame followup to Â“criticism of the Romney clip editÂ” Â— which amounted to Ms. Mitchell saying, with a sigh and a frown, Â“Oh, bother. Fine. HereÂ’s what we left out.Â” She failed to acknowledge what the Â“criticismÂ” entailed; she neglected to point out how the editing misrepresented the event being covered; and she offered nothing resembling an apology or an admission of responsibility for something that was, as a matter of fact, irresponsible.

IÂ’m tired. Truly. IÂ’ve grown weary of trying to defend the indefensible and explain the inexplicable. For years, people have stomped their feet and pounded their fists and snorted Â“Liberal media bias!Â” and IÂ’ve always tut-tutted and shooshed them and said, Â“No, no. Calm down. They meant well. It was just a misunderstanding. A mistake. These things happen.Â” I spent over 25 years working in the oft-reviled Mainstream Media and I saw up close and personal how the sausage was made. I knew the people who wielded the knives and wore the aprons, and could vouch (most of the time, anyway) for their good intentions.

But now?

Forget it. IÂ’m done. You deserve what theyÂ’re saying about you. ItÂ’s earned. You have worked long and hard to merit the suspicion, acrimony, mistrust and revulsion that the media-buying public increasingly heaps upon you. You have successfully eroded any confidence, dispelled any trust, and driven your audience into the arms of the Internet and the blogosphere, where biases are affirmed and like-minded people can tell each other what they hold to be true, since nobody believes in objective reality any more. You have done a superlative job of diminishing what was once a great profession and undermining one of the vital underpinnings of democracy, a free press.

Posted by: Chet Huntley at June 25, 2012 12:37 PM (e8kgV)

148 Does Jerry prefer to be the meat in a Wa Wa sandwich?

Posted by: Fritz at June 25, 2012 12:37 PM (/ZZCn)

149 I don't want Thursday to come, but yet I can't wait for it. Am I living in a dichotomy?

Go stand under the Big Rock. CAC says it exerts a peculiar calming effect.

Posted by: Cicero at June 25, 2012 12:38 PM (QKKT0)

150 In Sandusky, the appellate court will find error, but harmless. I don't even see any indication that the video was objected to at the time, meaning only very serious harm from its showing would warrant a re-trial. I expect there was more than sufficient trial evidence besides the video--including the personal testimony of many of those assaulted--to support a reasonable jury's decision to convict.

Posted by: Boston12GS at June 25, 2012 12:38 PM (0VqvZ)

151 Mitt RomneyÂ’s statement: TodayÂ’s decision underscores the need for a President who will lead on this critical issue and work in a bipartisan fashion to pursue a national immigration strategy. President Obama has failed to provide any leadership on immigration. This represents yet another broken promise by this President. I believe that each state has the dutyÂ–and the rightÂ–to secure our borders and preserve the rule of law, particularly when the federal government has failed to meet its responsibilities. As Candidate Obama, he promised to present an immigration plan during his first year in office. But 4 years later, we are still waiting.

Posted by: from The Corner at June 25, 2012 12:39 PM (HOOye)

152 I'm sure it was an honest mistake.

At least they didn't do something truly dishonest, like secretly rigging the gas tank on a truck so it would ignite under impact to give the false impression of safety flaws.

Oh wait...

Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 25, 2012 12:39 PM (SY2Kh)

153 >>Now a staffer says Bark has been known to write thank you notes to babysitters.

Begging them not to tell the media what they found in the hall closet?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 25, 2012 12:39 PM (/kI1Q)

154 Hey, anyone want to know how to edit a picture of a black Tea Partier so he looks like a dangerous armed white racist?

Posted by: MSNBC at June 25, 2012 12:40 PM (QKKT0)

155 Shorter --than Bob Costa--Ezra Klein: Damn those Republicans forcing us to report their crazy ideas because now --since the world revolves around the media and we make everything possible--The Supremes may be forced to do the unpossible-- Overturn ObamaCare!! The humanity!!!

Posted by: tasker at June 25, 2012 12:40 PM (r2PLg)

156 I wonder if NBC would edit the Super Bowl footage and tell viewers that the Giants lost the game?

Posted by: kbdabear at June 25, 2012 12:40 PM (Y+DPZ)

157 NBC News, we just make shi* up.

Posted by: Buffalobob at June 25, 2012 12:41 PM (676kt)

158

I wonder if NBC would edit the Super Bowl footage and tell viewers that the Giants lost the game?

Pish posh. Heidi won the game.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 25, 2012 12:42 PM (d0Tfm)

159 The Weather Channel is owned by NBC too.

That's why you should laugh at Geraldo Cantore whenever he acts like he's in the worst of the latest Storm of the Century

Posted by: kbdabear at June 25, 2012 12:42 PM (Y+DPZ)

160
I don't want Thursday to come, but yet I can't wait for it.

I can't explain it very well, but this has something to do with Schrodinger's cat. Somehow.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 12:42 PM (9Q7Nu)

161 Mitt RomneyÂ’s statement:

TodayÂ’s decision underscores the need for a President who will lead on this critical issue and work in a bipartisan fashion to pursue a national immigration strategy. President Obama has failed to provide any leadership on immigration. This represents yet another broken promise by this President. I believe that each state has the dutyÂ–and the rightÂ–to secure our borders and preserve the rule of law, particularly when the federal government has failed to meet its responsibilities. As Candidate Obama, he promised to present an immigration plan during his first year in office. But 4 years later, we are still waiting.

Posted by: from The Corner at June 25, 2012 04:39 PM (HOOye)

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Not bad, except for the bipartisan shit.

Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2012 12:43 PM (AdWAw)

162

Wow, the sun came out for a microbleem. First time since Saturday. Now it's all cloudy and will rain again.

Tease...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 25, 2012 12:44 PM (d0Tfm)

163
incidentally, after 3 days of Olympic style nose-blowing, my nostrils are raw

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 12:44 PM (9Q7Nu)

164

I expect there was more than sufficient trial evidence besides the video--including the personal testimony of many of those assaulted--to support a reasonable jury's decision to convict.

___

That's the gist of what the one juror who was interviewed (post-verdict) said.

Posted by: kallisto at June 25, 2012 12:45 PM (jm/9g)

165 Wow, the sun came out for a microbleem. First time since Saturday. Now it's all cloudy and will rain again.

You could share some of that, if y'all weren't so greedy. We in Texas would take all the clouds and rain you'd like to send us.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 12:45 PM (8y9MW)

166 Wow, the sun came out for a microbleem. First time since Saturday. Now it's all cloudy and will rain again.

Tease...

I'd send you all the gigableems you wanted if I could. Shit.

Posted by: eleven, team giggity at June 25, 2012 12:46 PM (KXm42)

167 I can't explain it very well, but this has something to do with Schrodinger's cat. Somehow.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 04:42 PM (9Q7Nu)

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So I could be dead? I guess I'll have to go to Chicago to vote.......just to make sure.

Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2012 12:46 PM (AdWAw)

168 Not bad, except for the bipartisan shit.Posted by: Soona

I hope he meant it as snark, as in "Let's be bipartisan by passing everything my side wants."

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at June 25, 2012 12:46 PM (famk3)

169

Not bad, except for the bipartisan shit.

Yeah, he also needs to install something along the lines of my suggestion: "I'm all for the rule of law and legal immigration, but..."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 25, 2012 12:46 PM (d0Tfm)

170 SE Cupp tweeted that she had a blast on MSNBC's The Cycle

Any bets on when she succumbs to Scarborough Stockholm Syndrome?

Posted by: kbdabear at June 25, 2012 12:46 PM (Y+DPZ)

171 Since things are slowing down here...

Go take a look at my place. I've had a few posts go up (mentioned on twitter, but not everyone here tweets).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 12:47 PM (8y9MW)

172 168 Wow, the sun came out for a microbleem. First time since Saturday. Now it's all cloudy and will rain again.

Tease... Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 25, 2012 04:44 PM

Quick, turn those fans on and throw some water on me, I'm supposed to be braving a killer storm !!!

Posted by: Geraldo Cantore at June 25, 2012 12:48 PM (Y+DPZ)

173 I can't explain it very well, but this has something to do with Schrodinger's cat. Somehow.

That little bastid keeps pissing on my front door.

Posted by: fluffy at June 25, 2012 12:48 PM (z9HTb)

174 This the fault of Steve Capus. Steve Capus must go.

Posted by: Dave G at June 25, 2012 12:48 PM (n7xol)

175

The Weather Channel is owned by NBC too.

___

The Weather Channel jumped into the Global Warming pool head first...I remember seven or so years ago when I still watched, the one lady who was their chief meteorologist was propagandizing every time she opened her mouth. It was that and the over-the-top storm coverage that lost me. Now I just go to weather underground online.

Posted by: kallisto at June 25, 2012 12:49 PM (jm/9g)

176

You could share some of that, if y'all weren't so greedy. We in Texas would take all the clouds and rain you'd like to send us.

As soon as we get the retention ponds back up where they're supposed to be (ie, no beachfront), we'll send Debby your way. We needed the rain, too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 25, 2012 12:49 PM (d0Tfm)

177
Right now, between now and Thursday, we have hope.

On Thursday, there is no hope. We either win or lose. Sorta like Schroder's cat.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 12:49 PM (9Q7Nu)

178 Wonder who the "anonymous" resident was who picked up the $20K tab for obama in NH... Just throwing money to cover his ass

Posted by: ? at June 25, 2012 12:50 PM (HOOye)

179 If he did get a new trial, it would be helpful to expose their lying asses. Not that I would want it to happen.

Posted by: hmmmm at June 25, 2012 12:51 PM (e9LVX)

180

You could share some of that, if y'all weren't so greedy. We in Texas would take all the clouds and rain you'd like to send us.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 04:45 PM (8y9MW)

We could use that In ohio too. It's so dry the geens are now rolling a 19.

They're so fast the balls actually accelerate and leave a vapor trail when you tap them.

Posted by: ErikW at June 25, 2012 12:51 PM (y4M8G)

181 Costas has a thing against the Giants. Says he's "big where it counts."

Posted by: Cricket at June 25, 2012 12:51 PM (DrC22)

182 Has anyone mentioned that Watergate did not have a body count?

No, not in this thread. No one has mentioned that Watergate did not have a body count.

Posted by: fluffy at June 25, 2012 12:51 PM (z9HTb)

183

Go take a look at my place. I've had a few posts go up (mentioned on twitter, but not everyone here tweets).

Me too! I posted the song from earlier in this thread just now. And I still can't log into my Twitter account. Have no idea why and none of their suggestions have worked.

Free BackwardsBoy!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 25, 2012 12:52 PM (d0Tfm)

184 No, not in this thread. No one has mentioned that Watergate did not have a body count.

You're right. It should be mentioned that Watergate did not have a body count.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 12:52 PM (8y9MW)

185 Sorta like Schroder's cat.

I thought Schroeder had a piano.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 25, 2012 12:52 PM (Brjev)

186
On Thursday, we open the box and we find out if the cat is alive or dead.

But we already know it's dead, right? But if we open the box, we're definitely gonna kill it, right?

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 12:52 PM (9Q7Nu)

187 Now I just go to weather underground online.

Those bastids frosted my ass the other day. They are allowing the AP to post news photos. Included in the captioning is editorial disguised as news.

Posted by: fluffy at June 25, 2012 12:53 PM (z9HTb)

188 Theoretically, anything the defense objected too can serve as the basis of an appeal. The issue is whether, apart from the videos, there was such overwhelming evidence of guilt it is essentially harmless error. If the appellate court determines that, then snafu with the videos is a non-issue.

Posted by: Penfold at June 25, 2012 12:54 PM (1PeEC)

189 Watergate DID NOT have a body count.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 25, 2012 12:55 PM (jucos)

190
I thought Schroeder had a piano.

Yes. And Linus has a blanket.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 12:55 PM (9Q7Nu)

191 Posted by: Waterhouse at June 25, 2012 04:52 PM (Brjev)

Not quite.

Posted by: Schroeder's Ben-Wa balls at June 25, 2012 12:55 PM (nEUpB)

192 I was watching NBC News the other day, and they re-enacted the Gettysburg Address. It sounded a little different than what I remember from school:

Seven years ago our fathers conceived.

Now we are engaged, testing whether so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure.

We have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before usÂ—that we shall have a new birth.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 25, 2012 12:55 PM (SY2Kh)

193 NUZZLING BARRY'S COOTER

Posted by: runningrn at June 25, 2012 12:55 PM (WGmy2)

194 Yes. And Linus has a blanket.

Snoopy has a thing for furries in bird costume.

Posted by: fluffy at June 25, 2012 12:56 PM (z9HTb)

195 Yes. And Linus has a blanket.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 04:55 PM (9Q7Nu)

And Lucy is a bitch.

Posted by: Charlie Brown at June 25, 2012 12:57 PM (y4M8G)

196 I thought Schroeder had a piano. Yes. And Linus has a blanket. Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 04:55 PM (9Q7Nu) ---------------------------------------------------------- And Pigpen had a smelly ass.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 25, 2012 12:57 PM (jucos)

197 @BretBaier says Holder contempt vote will be held Thursday. Barky may be in for a very bad day.

Posted by: Retread at June 25, 2012 12:57 PM (I2fq9)

198
The Peanuts don't deserve this.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 12:58 PM (9Q7Nu)

199

And Lucy is a bitch.

Maybe Schroeder could loan her the Ben-Wa balls?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 25, 2012 12:58 PM (d0Tfm)

200 Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 04:52 PM (9Q7Nu)

No, I think we know that it is dead, and not dead.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 25, 2012 12:58 PM (nEUpB)

201 Barky may be in for a very bad day.

Or a very good one.
Either way, I'll be eating my own liver on Wednesday.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 12:58 PM (8y9MW)

202 I've researched the data. I'm finding that Watergate didn't actually have a body count.

Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2012 12:58 PM (AdWAw)

203 Romney's response, as most things his team has done the past 2 months, is pitch perfect... It hits the sovereignty of the States issue, the close the borders issue while hinting something can be done, once the borders are secure...

Was Scalia's dissent hitting the majority for inconsistency with the upcoming Obamacare ruling, or a preview of a major Rant on Thursday... My WAG is that he wanted to toss the entirety of the 2700 pages of ObamaCare out, it Roberts/Kennedy split the baby and killed the mandate, giving We The People a major, but not complete victory... Scalia will have a scathing opinion on why the entire law should have been tossed.

Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at June 25, 2012 12:59 PM (Bxm/r)

204 And Pigpen had a smelly ass.

We had a cat named Pigpen. Bastid woulda tore off Bob Costa's head and buried it in the litter box.

Posted by: fluffy at June 25, 2012 12:59 PM (z9HTb)

205 OT: Ok, all you New Yawkers (not you cat piss), I need a restaurant recommendation near Grand Central (for lunch). It's been years since I ate anywhere near there and I'm not up to date on the good places.

Posted by: Tami at June 25, 2012 12:59 PM (X6akg)

206
No, I think we know that it is dead, and not dead.

ahhh, as I said, just like the Court and Obamacare

or not

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 12:59 PM (9Q7Nu)

207 Our interview with Dean shows Watergate DID have a body count.

Posted by: NBC at June 25, 2012 01:00 PM (p9yIY)

208 I couldn't tell for sure, but when I was watching TWC's coverage of Hurricane Irene, I thought they were using a large fan and spray like they do in on a movie set

It was The Today Show that got busted with that hilarious clip of the reporter in a canoe on a flooded street when two guys walk into the shot with the water not at about ankle depth a few years back

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8slEPV9LyS0

Posted by: kbdabear at June 25, 2012 01:00 PM (Y+DPZ)

209 It was The Today Show that got busted with that hilarious clip of the reporter in a canoe on a flooded street when two guys walk into the shot with the water not at about ankle depth a few years back

That was hysterical. Even Matt Lauer had to say something...."were those shaman walking by?"

Posted by: Tami at June 25, 2012 01:01 PM (X6akg)

210

I've researched the data. I'm finding that Watergate didn't actually have a body count.

How fortuitous. My own research as to whether Watergate didn't have a body count appears to confirm your results that Watergate didn't have a body count.

Does anyone else have research results that indicate Watergate didn't have a body count?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 25, 2012 01:01 PM (d0Tfm)

211 Does anyone else have research results that indicate Watergate didn't have a body count?

I haven't researched, but my recollection is certainly that Watergate did not have a body count.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 01:03 PM (8y9MW)

212 Or a very good one.
Either way, I'll be eating my own liver on Wednesday.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 04:58 PM (8y9MW)

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I'm having another piece of strawberry cake. You know, to soothe my aching soul.

Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2012 01:03 PM (AdWAw)

213
What would happen if you put Bob Costas, the midget, and George Will in the same room with you?

They would bore you to death talking about baseball.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 01:04 PM (9Q7Nu)

214 Read this creepy little "open letter to the Obama campaign that I wanted to pass along. I will not disclose the author, except to say that it is somebody who is in a position to know many of these things. It is not somebody who has any association with American Crossroads with whom the writer speaks about in the email." ... "It goes without saying that if President Obama has worked in conjunction with the IRS to target political enemies, the fallout would be enormous. One hopes that mutual assured destruction is enough to stop this here." http://tinyurl.com/8ycl9qh

Posted by: from redstate at June 25, 2012 01:04 PM (HOOye)

215 I'm having another piece of strawberry cake. You know, to soothe my aching soul.

Okay, well, what I actually plan to have is the last piece of the S'Mores Cheesecake my wife made this weekend.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 01:04 PM (8y9MW)

216 Oh, and Bob.........Mickey Mantle is dead. And I can name 20 players who were better than old Mickey on any Sunday when I am hungover, feeling ill and do want to think.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 25, 2012 05:02 PM

Bob and Keefums would bore you to death with that "baseball of my boyhood" shit when they were on together

Posted by: kbdabear at June 25, 2012 01:08 PM (Y+DPZ)

217 This issue came to light during the trial. Defense lawyers could have insisted that the "correct" version of the interview be played for the jury, but I'm sure they didn't want that bell rung a second time. According to the coverage in the Patriot-News, the judge decided against replaying the interview, but the coverage doesn't mention what position the defense lawyers took. I have to assume that they would not have wanted that damaging interview played a second time.

This is important because an appeal will generally be denied if the trial court's action is deemed "invited error," or if the complaining (appealing) party didn't ask for, and be refused, the proper corrective steps at the time of trial.

In due time, it won't matter, because jurors will understand that as soon as they hear that NBC is involved in editing something, they'll just assume it has been doctored to be misleading.

Posted by: Voiceguy at June 25, 2012 01:08 PM (V6jkK)

218 My research indicates that, indeed, thousands and thousands of people died during the Watergate scandal. Maybe not directly as a result but they died none the less.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 25, 2012 01:09 PM (jucos)

219 Okay, well, what I actually plan to have is the last piece of the S'Mores Cheesecake my wife made this weekend.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 05:04 PM (8y9MW)

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Ah. A home-refridgerated cheesecake. The best kind.

Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2012 01:09 PM (AdWAw)

220 Ah. A home-refridgerated cheesecake. The best kind.

Well, home-baked first, but yes.

I would seriously put her cheesecake against any commercial (including Cheesecake Factory) that you could find.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 01:12 PM (8y9MW)

221 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at June 25, 2012 01:12 PM (Xb3hu)

222 My research indicates that, indeed, thousands and thousands of people died during the Watergate scandal. Maybe not directly as a result but they died none the less.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 25, 2012 05:09 PM (jucos)

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You need to put it in PC medical terms. Thousands and thousands of deaths are "associated" with the Watergate scandal.

Posted by: Soona at June 25, 2012 01:13 PM (AdWAw)

223 Does anyone else have research results that indicate Watergate didn't have a body count? I believe we have a consensus, which makes this statement Science.

Posted by: toby928© at June 25, 2012 01:13 PM (QupBk)

224

Since this usually instantly results in Teh Furry One posting a new thread, here's some music for y'all.

A live version od Three Dog Night - Mama Told Me Not to Comehttp://tinyurl.com/yyfaq2o

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 25, 2012 01:13 PM (d0Tfm)

225 I would seriously put her cheesecake against any commercial (including Cheesecake Factory) that you could find. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 05:12 PM (8y9MW) ======== make sure you tell her that you will be rewarded

Posted by: hugs at June 25, 2012 01:13 PM (HOOye)

226

I've got an APB out on a kitten.
Small, white/gray, last seen 2 minutes ago, being heard as I type. Possibly turned invisible. Reward.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 25, 2012 01:14 PM (HethX)

227 If the discussion here is about the legal case, as a non-lawyer it sure looked to me like the defense attorney was either terrible at his job, or he just didn't care. I don't think that's the prosecution's fault. If the discussion is about NBC being terrible at their jobs, well, that's like a dog bites man story, isn't it?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 25, 2012 01:14 PM (TOk1P)

228 NBC should have just rigged Sandusky's tank to explode and we wouldn't have to worry about this.

Posted by: polynikes at June 25, 2012 01:14 PM (4+PCd)

229

I would seriously put her cheesecake against any commercial (including Cheesecake Factory) that you could find.

Cream Cheese or Ricotta?

Posted by: garrett at June 25, 2012 01:14 PM (X+WXU)

230 >>Costas has a thing against the Giants. Says he's "big where it counts."

The bank account.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 25, 2012 01:14 PM (/kI1Q)

231 We are in the middle of the era of the shittiest prosecutors in history.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at June 25, 2012 01:14 PM (lHn6+)

232 It wasn't noticed by (NBC News)? How could that happen?

Posted by: Charles Gibson at June 25, 2012 01:15 PM (vhwRj)

233 NBC should have just rigged Sandusky's tank to explode and we wouldn't have to worry about this. Spontaneous combustion of football coaches is a well documented safety hazard.

Posted by: toby928© at June 25, 2012 01:15 PM (QupBk)

234 I think the majority of Americans believe Sandusky is guilty and if he walks because NBC screwed up, I think there will be a HUGE backlash against NBC. I can't see them surviving being the reason a guily man goes free.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at June 25, 2012 01:15 PM (KL49F)

235 >>Small, white/gray, last seen 2 minutes ago,being heard asI type. Possibly turned invisible.

He's eating, sleeping, or planning to murder you.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 25, 2012 01:15 PM (/kI1Q)

236 'nother new post up. Re: SCOAMT refusing to allow ICE to take AZ's calls.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 01:15 PM (8y9MW)

237 Is there any chance of him going free from this? Or would it just result in a re-trial?

Posted by: sandy burger at June 25, 2012 01:16 PM (y15sM)

238

Speaking of watergate, what was Bebe Rebozo's deal? No expert, but I've read all the big Watergate books, and seen references to many of the figures for decades since, but that tool never made sense to me.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 25, 2012 01:16 PM (HethX)

239 He's eating, sleeping, or planning to murder you. He could also be crapping in your bed.

Posted by: toby928© at June 25, 2012 01:16 PM (QupBk)

240 Cream Cheese or Ricotta?

Cream cheese.

Though, if you're eating a Cheesecake for the cheese flavor- you're doing it wrong.

My favorite is her Sweet Potato Cassarole Cheesecake. The S'Mores one (she did that for the first time this weekend) is a very, very close second. I may end up buying her a butane torch just so she can make those with less trouble.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 01:18 PM (8y9MW)

241

Is there any chance of him going free from this? Or would it just result in a re-trial?

Someone upthread mentioned that it would need to be pretty bad for a retrial. He ain't gonna walk.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 25, 2012 01:19 PM (d0Tfm)

242 This company is NOT on of the ten brands expected to disappear in 2013. The guy next door says: "D'uh, did you really expect us to make it to 2013?"

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at June 25, 2012 01:19 PM (SDkq3)

243 He could also be crapping in your bed.

He could also be doing any combination of those- short of eating and sleeping at the same time.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 25, 2012 01:19 PM (8y9MW)

244 237 NBC should have just rigged Sandusky's tank to explode and we wouldn't have to worry about this. Posted by: polynikes at June 25, 2012 05:14 PM

I am sooo stealing that on Twitter!

Posted by: kbdabear at June 25, 2012 01:20 PM (Y+DPZ)

245 Kitteh is cashing your checks and buying kitteh toys. And you can not take them back because they have spit allover them!

Posted by: Steve Martin at June 25, 2012 01:21 PM (YdQQY)

246

I can't believe the prosecuters were THIS stupid. First, relying on a tv interview at all and second, relying on an *NBC* tv interview at that.

Bye-bye, NBC. America will never trust you again. Couldn't happen to a nicer network.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at June 25, 2012 01:21 PM (KL49F)

247 New ace post up

Posted by: Vic at June 25, 2012 01:21 PM (YdQQY)

248

He could also be crapping in your bed.

...or puking in your favorite slippers. I'll go with plotting to kill you, tho'.

To quote that great philosopher Steve Martin, "How many of you have cats? How many of you trust them?"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 25, 2012 01:21 PM (d0Tfm)

249 144 140
If the media suddenly takes an interest in Michelle Obama's huge muscular arms, well, that's a story!
Posted by: soothsayer at June 25, 2012 04:31 PM (9Q7Nu)

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Jeebus--the irony.

Ann Romney should name her horse--

Unconstitutional. The Big Ugly Wookie

Posted by: model_1066 at June 25, 2012 01:28 PM (YbQJm)

250 fuck you too, mr. no strikethrough....asshole.

Posted by: model_1066 at June 25, 2012 01:28 PM (YbQJm)

251 He has emerged! Dusty but fine.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 25, 2012 01:28 PM (HethX)

252 I just want to remind everybody what a bunch of liars the MSM are. But you knew that. The other dumb move was the prosecution trusting them.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 25, 2012 01:39 PM (bxiXv)

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