January 10, 2012

New Hampshire Primary Results Thread
— Ace

I predict Romney wins and Paul comes in second.

Hack blogger, indeed.

Yeah... So Romney won, as expected.

In New Hampshire, they're looking at electability, which is fine, but I just don't know if Romney's as electable as people seem to think.

Posted by: Ace at 02:30 PM | Comments (961)
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1 I predict Paul comes in second and Romney wins... just to be different.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 10, 2012 02:31 PM (Gc/Qi)

2 If Perry does badly I fear I shall sacrifice myself on my trident this evening.

Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:32 PM (iYbLN)

3 do not take this the wrong way, but I have never cared less.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 10, 2012 02:32 PM (loM0R)

4 New Hampshire Primary  is the BCS of Elections.

Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:32 PM (iYbLN)

5 Prediction:  I never see you or him again for the rest of my life.

Posted by: Jerry at January 10, 2012 02:33 PM (fOmkv)

6 I long ago learned that the East Coast doesn't give a shit about the rest of the country.  I return the favor.  Fuck New Hampshire.

Posted by: kathysaysso at January 10, 2012 02:34 PM (ZtwUX)

7 4 New Hampshire Primary is the BCS of Elections. Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 06:32 PM (iYbLN) no it is only 2/3 of the BCS

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 10, 2012 02:34 PM (loM0R)

8 Open primaries are FUBAR and should all be shit canned.

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 02:35 PM (i6RpT)

9 Really going out on a limb, there.

Posted by: cranky-d at January 10, 2012 02:35 PM (H2G0R)

10 I love how the "true" conservatives have forced Mitt to defend capitalism lately.  Mitt couldn't have a better sendoff into the general election in terms of securing the base. 

If this is just Newt being Newt, how do the other candidates explain themselves?

Posted by: Dumas at January 10, 2012 02:35 PM (0DSBL)

11 I predict a human wave of Rombots and Paulbots will inundate this thread.
 
I'm going to think about canning apricots.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 10, 2012 02:35 PM (BhuDE)

12 As a long-time Romney supporter, I am confident Mitt will pull off a commanding victory tonight.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2012 02:38 PM (XE2Oo)

13 Like I give a rat's ass what the Pepperidge Farm people think up in New Hampshire.  Screw 'em.  We could carpet that state in 2 days tops and they get to be the Chosers.  Fuck them and their cookies.

Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:38 PM (iYbLN)

14 I sense a groundswell for Huntsman, I put him at two






voters

Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 10, 2012 02:38 PM (GaIwz)

15 Just shut it down now. There's really no point in carrying this process any further. Romney is the rightful, inevitable victor. All of America has spoken.

Posted by: Karl Rove's Encephalopathic Brain at January 10, 2012 02:38 PM (eHIJJ)

16 My prediction: I'm drinking a lot of fucking booze.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 02:38 PM (zLeKL)

17 10 - If... and that's a big if, Mitt actually DOES defend capitalism, I would say Newt and the other "trues" did him a favor.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 10, 2012 02:38 PM (Gc/Qi)

18 #11 But did you predict that a Romney/Paul ticket bot would arrive?

Posted by: Ron+Rombot at January 10, 2012 02:39 PM (dHqot)

19 I predict I dont give a shit who wins there and Romney and Paul can kiss my withered ,well, you know!

Posted by: Rich K at January 10, 2012 02:39 PM (X4l3T)

20 13 Like I give a rat's ass what the Pepperidge Farm people think up in New Hampshire.  Screw 'em.  We could carpet that state in 2 days tops and they get to be the Chosers.  Fuck them and their cookies.

Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 06:38 PM (iYbLN)

That forget, Pepperridge Farm remembers.... They always remember...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 10, 2012 02:39 PM (GaIwz)

21 Santorum was the Iowa surprise, will NH produce one? Not Huntsman, right? Santorum again? A darker horse?

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 02:39 PM (hiMsy)

22 Following the primaries this year is not unlike repeatedly stabbing yourself in the eye with an old Nokia phone.

Posted by: January at January January at January January at January January at January at January 10, 2012 02:39 PM (j9etX)

23 Early results show a strong showing by Perry. Are they just screwing with us?

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 10, 2012 02:39 PM (YeIP1)

24 Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot Looks good on you, lad.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2012 02:40 PM (0yt4x)

25 I predict Romney comes in first and Paul comes in First Loser. As for the others... meh.

Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 02:40 PM (FcKXR)

26

That forget, Pepperridge Farm remembers.... They always remember...

Posted by: The Robot Devil

I'm going full Lutheran.  Shortbread Cookies and white cake!!!!

Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:40 PM (iYbLN)

27 21 - RACIST!!

Posted by: BurtTC at January 10, 2012 02:40 PM (Gc/Qi)

28 And you can keep your damn Hickory Farms crap too!

Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:41 PM (iYbLN)

29 Lincolntf: "A darker horse?"

Racist!

Posted by: David Axelrod et al. at January 10, 2012 02:41 PM (eHIJJ)

30 Looks good on you, lad. Thank you, sir.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 02:41 PM (zLeKL)

31 11 I predict a human wave of Rombots and Paulbots will inundate this thread.
I'm going to think about canning apricots.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 10, 2012 06:35 PM (BhuDE)

What proof have you that they are human? Out with it!

Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 02:41 PM (FcKXR)

32 polynikes,

Are you thinking Rick Perry or Rick Santorum?

Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:42 PM (iYbLN)

33

2If Perry does badly I fear I shall sacrifice myself on my trident this evening.
----------

No no no. Don't do that. .....New Hampshire is hardly a bellweather state. It only has a handful of delegates, and a small number of electoral votes.

Sometimes the winner of NH goes on to become the nominee.....sometimes they don't. .....So I am still hoping for a Perry comeback.

Posted by: wheatie at January 10, 2012 02:42 PM (oPkw3)

34 I predict that I will hate New Hampshire even more than Iowa after tonight.

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 02:42 PM (1PXIb)

35 Perry needs to roll a natural 20 to crack 3%. He still has a chance.

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 10, 2012 02:43 PM (hUM6f)

36 Coprophagia... it's what's for dinner, eh, GOP?

Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 02:43 PM (FcKXR)

37 >>Thank you, sir.
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 06:41 PM (zLeKL)

And damn polite in the dark as well.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 02:43 PM (HBqDo)

38 .So I am still hoping for a Perry comeback. Posted by: wheatie at January 10, 2012 06:42 PM (oPkw3) I'm waiting for the Edsel to make a comeback

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 02:43 PM (i6RpT)

39 12 Lol

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 10, 2012 02:43 PM (hUM6f)

40

And you can keep your damn Hickory Farms crap too!

Pssst! Ohio.

Posted by: fluffy at January 10, 2012 02:44 PM (O6q63)

41 38 .So I am still hoping for a Perry comeback.

Posted by: wheatie at January 10, 2012 06:42 PM (oPkw3)

I'm waiting for the Edsel to make a comeback

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 10, 2012 02:45 PM (UR5vq)

42 >>predict that I will hate New Hampshire even more than Iowa after tonight.
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 06:42 PM (1PXIb)

Iowa does not hate New Hampshire, You are on your own.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 02:45 PM (HBqDo)

43 Ace, what's the word on the street?

Posted by: Rick Fucking Perry at January 10, 2012 02:46 PM (lVGED)

44 2 If Perry does badly I fear I shall sacrifice myself on my trident this evening.

Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 06:32 PM (iYbLN)

Iowa has 28 delegates

New Hampshire has 12 delegates

Texas has 155 delegates.

And I think Iowa and New Hampshire are proportioned.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 10, 2012 02:46 PM (GaIwz)

45 I'm the smartest raccoon I know

Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 02:46 PM (FcKXR)

46 mpfs. Perry. Fox site had running first at 36% and Drudge had him at 19% just behind Paul and Romney. Granted this very early reporting but that is a positive start.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 10, 2012 02:46 PM (YeIP1)

47 predict that I will hate New Hampshire even more than I hate Iowa after tonight.
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 06:42 PM (1PXIb)

Iowa does not hate New Hampshire, You are on your own.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 06:45 PM (HBqDo)

fixed!

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 02:46 PM (1PXIb)

48 Obama 2012: because the media will turn on Romney so hard it will make Steven Seagal wince in sympathy in about 3 months

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 10, 2012 02:47 PM (hUM6f)

49 Why does Fox think I'll waste my time watching a "All star Panel" that has a New York Times reporter ans Juan? I can take one or the other but not both.

Poor Steve.

Posted by: Mike in CFL at January 10, 2012 02:47 PM (motsG)

50 NH, a state even less representative and meaningful than Iowa. (This blog needs a mobile app!)

Posted by: nickless at January 10, 2012 02:47 PM (/McNP)

51 Thanks, polynikes!

Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:47 PM (iYbLN)

52 I'm the smartest raccoon I know Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 06:46 PM (FcKXR) The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler?

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 02:47 PM (i6RpT)

53 Open primaries are FUBAR and should all be shit canned.

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 06:35 PM (i6RpT)

And the semi-closed ones as well.

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 02:48 PM (qKEux)

54 Open primaries are FUBAR and should all be shit canned. Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 06:35 PM (i6RpT) And the semi-closed ones as well. Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 06:48 PM (qKEux) Yes

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 02:48 PM (i6RpT)

55 40

And you can keep your damn Hickory Farms crap too!

Pssst! Ohio.

Posted by: fluffy


Sorry.  My bad.

Well, you know what I mean.

Are those two old codgers who sell wine coolers from NH?

Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:48 PM (iYbLN)

56 WAR RICK PERRY

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 02:49 PM (zLeKL)

57 Me for Perry !

Posted by: GrandeMe at January 10, 2012 02:49 PM (gavWU)

58

I predict Romney wins and Huntsman takes second. Then I predict Romney wins the nod and selects Huntsman as his Vice.

Then I predict we get 4 more of Obama, cause the way it looks right now, we are cutting each other's own throat, and when the election comes, too many of us will be butt hurt about what happend to "our" candidates and either we stay home, or the media ceases on the talking point we created for them.

Obviously....I've lost hope....and I am mister negativity today, and if you don't like it....well then K.M.A. 

Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 02:49 PM (JMsOK)

59 Frank Luntz' focus group thinks that Frank Luntz is a stud.

Posted by: nickless at January 10, 2012 02:50 PM (/McNP)

60 There's a lot of seething anger in this thread. DHS has been notified.

Posted by: Frightened Democracy Supporter at January 10, 2012 02:50 PM (jiwQf)

61 Bye the bye, where's CAC been?

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 02:50 PM (qKEux)

62 51 NH, a state even less representative and meaningful than Iowa.
Posted by: nickless at January 10, 2012 06:47 PM (/McNP)

Au contraire, mon ami, vous avez omis de considérer la très importante voter sans papiers des travailleurs du Québec!

Posted by: frog went a courtin' at January 10, 2012 02:50 PM (FcKXR)

63 Obviously....I've lost hope....and I am mister negativity today, and if you don't like it....well then K.M.A. Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 06:49 PM (JMsOK) Don't lose hope, it's way to early. But Romney will NEVER pick Huntsman

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 02:51 PM (i6RpT)

64 @mpfs Bartles and Jaymes?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2012 02:52 PM (vzFJV)

65

I predict Romney wins and Huntsman takes second. Then I predict Romney wins the nod and selects Huntsman as his Vice.

Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 06:49 PM (JMsOK)

Huntsman? No way. Willard will take McCains advice and pick a woman from Alaska to energize the base. But maybe Murcowsky will decline.

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 02:52 PM (1PXIb)

66 WAR.  What is it good for?

Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:53 PM (iYbLN)

67 Screw them, who cares what folks in NH think when they always tend to vote Dem in the general election; just like the idiots in Kalifornia (why oh why won't the hubby agree to move from this rat hole of a state?!)

Posted by: IC at January 10, 2012 02:53 PM (jZNCU)

68

Are those two old codgers who sell wine coolers from NH?

You need a good spanking, Young Lady.

Posted by: Franklin Pierce at January 10, 2012 02:53 PM (O6q63)

69 Wednesday, January 11, 2012 00:03Clinton: Iran enrichment activities show blatant disregard for international commitments (AP) Boy ya gotta get up real early in AM to get anything past hillary ha?

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 02:53 PM (i6RpT)

70 56 Are those two old codgers who sell wine coolers from NH?
Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 06:48 PM (iYbLN)

Bartles and James? Those old codgers were marketing fronts for Gallo Wineries out of Alta California.

Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 02:53 PM (FcKXR)

71 68 @mpfs

Bartles and Jaymes? Posted by: Empire of Jeff

Yeah, that's it.  Are those asswipes from NH? If so I'm gunning for them and the cookies too.

Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:53 PM (iYbLN)

72 Don't Forgit, Mitt's the Shit!

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 10, 2012 02:53 PM (PddVe)

73 70 WAR.  What is it good for?

Well, everything. 

*okay, mostly everything*. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 10, 2012 02:54 PM (UR5vq)

74 67  I think it was Ace who promoted that comment during the live blog of the debate the other night.  Only the poster knows what it means.

Posted by: no good deed at January 10, 2012 02:54 PM (mjR67)

75 Bartles and James? Those old codgers were marketing fronts for Gallo Wineries out of Alta California.
Posted by: Byte Mie!


Well they look New Hampshirest to me!

Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:54 PM (iYbLN)

76 NH?  Pfffft.  I'm waiting for the big boys to settle this.  I'm getting tired of everyone thinking these pissant whistle-stops will have the last word.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 02:54 PM (/VmDe)

77 66 Don't lose hope, it's way to early. But Romney will NEVER pick Huntsman
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 06:51 PM (i6RpT)

He will if it looks like Utah is wavering!

Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 02:55 PM (FcKXR)

78 I Predict... Pain!

Posted by: Comrade T at January 10, 2012 02:55 PM (CLIf7)

79 I fart in New Hampshire's general direction.

Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:55 PM (iYbLN)

80 Frank Luntz' focus group thinks that Frank Luntz is a stud. Posted by: nickless at January 10, 2012 06:50 PM

It's the Dynel toupee.  You can't take your eyes off it.

Posted by: huerfano at January 10, 2012 02:55 PM (lXi+d)

Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 02:55 PM (FcKXR)

82 >>what does the WAR reference mean?
Posted by: chemjeff at January 10, 2012 06:51 PM (7FadD)

We'll explain later just get yourself a gun and get qualified pronto.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 02:56 PM (HBqDo)

83 Really thoughtful post by Melissa Clouthier on the Romney-Bain stuff, populism, and the campaign. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 02:56 PM (5H6zj)

84 2 If Perry does badly I fear I shall sacrifice myself on my trident this evening. Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 06:32 PM (iYbLN) Does Amazon sell those?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 02:56 PM (niZvt)

85 I predict that I shall eat chocolate and go to bed by eight because I am just.  that.  hard.  core. 

Posted by: alexthechick at January 10, 2012 02:57 PM (Gk3SS)

86 Haunting Twitter to see which on the spot newser tweets the initial returns first.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 02:58 PM (hiMsy)

87 Does Amazon sell those?

No, but I do!  Only $22 a pop.

Posted by: Rick Perry at January 10, 2012 02:58 PM (ad7NF)

88 I predict...BUY GOLD AND SILVER!!!

Posted by: RON PAUL! at January 10, 2012 02:58 PM (+zWnc)

89 WAR.  What is it good for?

Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 06:53 PM (iYbLN)

Classic episode!

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 02:58 PM (qKEux)

90 I predict some will take joy in Romney not winning by a lot.

Posted by: soothie at January 10, 2012 02:58 PM (j7IJ7)

91 So who will exit this time?  Who, if they don't exit, won't be invited to the next debate? 

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 02:58 PM (oZfic)

92

He will if it looks like Utah is wavering!

 

The way things have been going Utah may just start wavering. This is such a smuckfest of a primary.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at January 10, 2012 02:58 PM (ursbV)

93 Alexthechick, taking a walk on the wild side, I see. 

Posted by: no good deed at January 10, 2012 02:59 PM (mjR67)

94 Speaking of Luntz, did you guys see this link (I posted on a thread this morning)? 

Luntz tells his gathered throng that Governor Perry is George W. Bush “without the intellect.”  Then, upon discovering that there are cameras present, his demeanor suddenly shifts and he makes a sheepish attempt to play it off as though heÂ’s “just messinÂ’ with you guys” before ordering the person shooting the footage to “take your suit and leave.”

Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 02:59 PM (5H6zj)

95 The one true thing I know is that tomorrow there will be a second State in the Union over which chemtrails will dare not show themselves ever again!

Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 02:59 PM (FcKXR)

96 If Huntsman is second and Romney first, I predict a lot of NH hate...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:00 PM (niZvt)

97 Alexthechick, taking a walk on the wild side, I see.

Yes, indeedy deed, you are just jealous you aren't me.  It's also possible that I took some cold meds and am about to faceplant on my keyadhjfa;lhfa;sldhj

Posted by: alexthechick at January 10, 2012 03:00 PM (Gk3SS)

98 in b4 "it's a loss if Mitt doesnt win by double digits!"

Posted by: soothie at January 10, 2012 03:01 PM (j7IJ7)

99 I really hope Newt finishes strong enough.  Honestly I am going to be very depressed if he gets knocked out as I highly doubt Perry is going to be making a comeback.

Posted by: Shiggz at January 10, 2012 03:01 PM (RfvTE)

100 Chill. Iowa and NH are proportional. They also cut themselves moving the race back far. I predict a 35% win for Romney and second place for huntsman since paul under performs always. It would be funny if Romney got less votes than 2008 (75,000)

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 03:01 PM (40rE+)

101 I predict: Michael Jackson... Still dead.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:01 PM (niZvt)

102 They said Mitt has to win by 32 or above.  They didn't explain why 32 but I've heard several use those numbers.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 03:01 PM (oZfic)

103 Okay, I read "Luntz tells his gathered thong..." I had better go get me some dinner.

Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 03:01 PM (FcKXR)

104

Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 06:59 PM (5H6zj)

Never like him. The Jerry Springer of politics. His Thanksgiving debate was repugnant.

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 03:02 PM (1PXIb)

105 I predict we'll be very busy tonight.

Posted by: Association of Goal Post Movers at January 10, 2012 03:02 PM (ad7NF)

106 That may leave a mark.  Sorry, about the cold.

Posted by: no good deed at January 10, 2012 03:02 PM (mjR67)

107 early results show a strong showing by Perry. Are they just screwing with us?

What does the media love more than polishing dem knob? That's right making conservatives feel like SH*T. People can't fall and be crushed if they aren't willing to climb the stairs first.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 03:02 PM (0q2P7)

108

Think about it....after the shit that's has been thrown around over the past couple of weeks you think Romney is gonna pick Gingrich? Paul? Perry?Santorum? as his runningmate. Hell No...It's gonna be Huntsman, and I'll tell you why.

Because it looks like to me, that Romney is running for moderate Democrats and Independents who already left Obama long ago. He is gambling that Conservatives are voting Republican regardless.......and he knows that Huntsman is who all the sissy Democrats and Independents want.

Hell he locks up a good number of disinfranchised Democrats a chunk of Independents....and he can't lose the general. The only problem for him now is, that he has to figure out how to win us back during the general.

You know how many Conservatives that is gonna piss off just in principle? Could backfire!

God I hate NorthEasters....you people suck! Especially you Romney!

Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 03:03 PM (JMsOK)

109 I predict Huntsman gets 10% more votes than he did in Iowa.

Like they say about Huntsman in China

Nǐ tài chéngsè yíngdé

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at January 10, 2012 03:03 PM (zgwWv)

110 I predict Bob Newhart will get hit in the head with a golf ball. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 03:03 PM (Ec6wH)

111

It is more a wish than a prediction but Romney and Huntsman tie for first place. Just because.

Posted by: snowcrash at January 10, 2012 03:03 PM (w3YD7)

112 I predict Dianne Sawyers runs out of Nyquil tonight before she runs out of designer vodka.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 10, 2012 03:04 PM (tCDfu)

113 Yes, indeedy deed, you are just jealous you aren't me.  It's also possible that I took some cold meds and am about to faceplant on my keyadhjfa;lhfa;sldhj

Posted by: alexthechick at January 10, 2012 07:00 PM (Gk3SS)

 

I guess someone should have told you that Lortabs and anti-histamines don't mix well.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 03:04 PM (/VmDe)

114 President Barack Obama defended the work of the Environmental Protection Agency on Tuesday, saying he would stand with the agency that has taken a beating from Republicans in Congress and on the presidential campaign trail for regulations that the GOP maintains will cripple the economy and kill jobs. Obama, making his first-ever visit to the EPA, took issue with those claims, saying he did not buy the notion that there is a choice between clean air and clean water and a growing economy. He said the mission of the agency was "vital." Elections have consequences

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 03:04 PM (i6RpT)

115

They said Mitt has to win by 32 or above.  They didn't explain why 32 but I've heard several use those numbers.

YES! YES! We are all individuals!!

Posted by: I'm not at January 10, 2012 03:04 PM (O6q63)

116 I am was a Perry guy, but after him spouting OWS-type crap today (as well as other stoopid things he has said lately) about Bain, I nominate Perry as SCOAMF, Texas edition. F*ckwit.

I will no longer ride 120mph for Perry.

Posted by: Ducatisti at January 10, 2012 03:05 PM (KYE7u)

117 I predict Frank Luntz' toupee will decide to get up and walk out of the the room during the 2nd Presidential Debate in South Sphincter, Colorado. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 03:05 PM (Ec6wH)

118 Huntsman's on CBS news...he strikes me as an insufferable douchebag. 

I know these things.

Posted by: jeanne! at January 10, 2012 03:05 PM (bEnlY)

119 I predict someone's going down tonight and it ain't gonna be Romney.

Posted by: Some Fat Guy at January 10, 2012 03:05 PM (oxgwp)

120 Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 07:03 PM (JMsOK)

When there already are folks squeamish about it, doubling down on Mormon would be epically dumb.

Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 03:05 PM (FcKXR)

121 They said Mitt has to win by 32 or above.  They didn't explain why 32 but I've heard several use those numbers.

31 percent in 2008

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 03:06 PM (40rE+)

122 UP WITH PEOPLE!

Posted by: soothie at January 10, 2012 03:07 PM (vzLhi)

123 Posted by: snowcrash at January 10, 2012 07:03 PM (w3YD7)

Like the nickname. Great book!

Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 03:07 PM (FcKXR)

124 Shouldn't a primary results thread have a link to, you know, the primary results?

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 10, 2012 03:07 PM (lVGED)

125 T'suk Mai Wong T'shwong Mo Wons!

Posted by: John Huntsman at January 10, 2012 03:08 PM (niZvt)

126
I for one welcome our Mitt Overlords.

Ok, maybe not.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at January 10, 2012 03:08 PM (1hM1d)

127 WAR.  What is it good for?

Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 06:53 PM (iYbLN)

Classic episode!

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 06:58 PM (qKEux)

I tried like hell to find the quote but got lost:

Elaine: Do you believe in God? 

Puddy: Yeah... 

Elaine: Is it a problem for you that I'm not religious? 

Puddy: No.

Elaine: Why not? 

Puddy: I'm not the one going to hell.

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 03:08 PM (qKEux)

128 uhh... uhhh



uhhh.

Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 03:08 PM (U1GWm)

129 115 I predict Bob Newhart will get hit in the head with a golf ball. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 07:03 PM (Ec6wH)


Flash back to playing "Hi Bob" while watching Newhart on FEN (Forced Entertainment Network) on Okinawa.

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at January 10, 2012 03:08 PM (zgwWv)

130 124 I predict someone's going down tonight and it ain't gonna be Romney.


I predict you're right.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at January 10, 2012 03:09 PM (lVGED)

131  UP WITH PEOPLE!

Posted by: soothie at January 10, 2012 07:07 PM (vzLhi)

 

IT'S A BIG WIDE WONDERFUL WORLD WE LIVE IN! 

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 03:09 PM (/VmDe)

132 130 Shouldn't a primary results thread have a link to, you know, the primary results? Posted by: Dr Spank at January 10, 2012 07:07 PM (lVGED) Let's not get too tachnical - this is a smart military blog.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:09 PM (niZvt)

133 HUMAN CAIN!

Posted by: soothie at January 10, 2012 03:09 PM (OHhPo)

134

I have much confidence in the people to choose Romney.

Posted by: Jimmah at January 10, 2012 03:09 PM (TMeYE)

135 130 Shouldn't a primary results thread have a link to, you know, the primary results?
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 10, 2012 07:07 PM (lVGED)

Nah. Like the MFM, we're quite adept at pulling numbers out of our heads. Or asses. And our quality assurance measures are superior (or so I've been led to believe).

Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 03:10 PM (FcKXR)

136 I prediczzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

Posted by: Rick Perry at January 10, 2012 03:10 PM (ad7NF)

137 Watching Newt, Santorum, and other supposedly pro-business, supposedly pro-wealth creation conservatives attack Romney for ... doing a good job at rebuilding companies and making money? There are lines you can cross, and lines you can't. If you cross one of the latter, you are a lefty liberal. Like attacking people for being successful at business. Newt, I am deeply, profoundly disappointed in you. I know you are smarter than this. I know you are better than this. This smacks of an egocentric, desperate attack, tossing one of our core values ... values we in this country should treasure ... under the bus because you want to belittle a successful businessman. Really Newt? Really? Santorum is a loser anyway. A back bencher at best. He is not a first rate intellect. Newt is undisciplined, and after seeing that attack, I am questioning his core principles. I was chosing between Romney and Newt, but seeing that attack has made up my mind for me. Good job Newt. Good fucking job. My god ... even luap nor gets it right when they don't. That says something. Profound, sad, and frightening. Drudge's poll is showing a narrow grouping at the top and a wide grouping at the bottom. One can argue self selection bias, and luap nor bot-itude. Yes, some of that is in play. But its pretty obvious who is finished, and who is in the fight. Even if those in the fight are fighting like lefties. Sad day when I look in horror at the GOP and think how incredibly brain dead they are about how business works. I wonder if it makes sense to propose a constitutional amendment that any aspirant for the nations CEO job must have prior private sector experience in a similar set of roles, or a similar role track. This way we pre-filter out the bozos whom have no business being CEOs.

Posted by: John Galt at January 10, 2012 03:10 PM (80GjT)

138

@125

I hear you, but have you disgussed this with your local Lefty lately. Go find one and talk about this. I'm telling you they all want Huntsman....the mormon crap never even comes up in the conversation.

Romney goes with a no-name? Hell......that's more risky than Huntsman. Place your bets Romney/Huntsman 2012

Am I the only one noticing that the only people those two aren't attacking are each other? God I'm pissed that this has scewed this direction. Where's the nearest Value-Rite Vodka store?

Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 03:10 PM (JMsOK)

139 I'm starting to get a twitch in my left eye.

Posted by: Joffen at January 10, 2012 03:10 PM (zLeKL)

140 where's my damn hair-dye!??

Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 03:10 PM (U1GWm)

141 Posted by: Some Fat Guy at January 10, 2012 07:05 PM (oxgwp)

Pick me! Pick me!

Posted by: Meghan McCain at January 10, 2012 03:11 PM (nEUpB)

142 now where did i leave my keys??

Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 03:11 PM (U1GWm)

143 127 117 I predict Dianne Sawyers runs out of Nyquil tonight before she runs out of designer vodka tampons. FIFY (IYKWIM) Posted by: chemjeff at January 10, 2012 07:07 PM (7FadD) That would explain many things... Can you imagine that girl at a wedding reception?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:11 PM (niZvt)

144 147 where's my damn hair-dye!??
Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 07:10 PM (U1GWm)

Wait your damn turn you comatose son of a bitch.

Posted by: Anita Perry at January 10, 2012 03:12 PM (ad7NF)

145 I predict that somewhere in America tonight, a lonely overweight man dressed in jeans and a polo shirt is going to believe that the exotic dancer with scintillating breasts, firm buttocks, and smooth elbows thrusting to Nickleback while sitting upon his ample lap is truly the woman he is going to marry.    

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 03:12 PM (Ec6wH)

146 My peas arent mashed! how do you expect me to chew 'em?

Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 03:12 PM (U1GWm)

147 I'm concentrating all my efforts to win in... In... Uh...

Posted by: Rick Perry at January 10, 2012 03:12 PM (niZvt)

148 I'm killin' it yo.

Posted by: The NEW Mitt Romney, Hipper and Down With the Kids at January 10, 2012 03:13 PM (lVGED)

149 146 I'm starting to get a twitch in my left eye.

Posted by: Joffen at January 10, 2012 07:10 PM (zLeKL)

Pffft...is that all?  I've gone full on Tourettes.

Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 03:13 PM (X6akg)

150

 I'm starting to get a twitch in my left eye.

Left??

RINO.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 10, 2012 03:13 PM (XdlcF)

151 Great. Now my denture glue failed.

Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 03:13 PM (U1GWm)

152

Thanks for inviting me to the wake, y'all.

Posted by: Emperor of NotRickMittJonNewtRick at January 10, 2012 03:13 PM (epBek)

153 Wow, Allahpundit is really butt hurt over Romney attacks this week on twitter

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 03:13 PM (40rE+)

154 Are these 'Depends' supposed to be a snug fit?

Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 03:14 PM (U1GWm)

155 Can we reroll if the primary isn't to our liking?


Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 10, 2012 03:14 PM (kUd5w)

156 Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 07:11 PM (niZvt)

Have you seen her recently? I think she may be a little long in the tooth to be menstruating. I'm guessing she's more into the estrogen cream and maybe a bit of testosterone for a jump-start for her libido.

Needless to say, I objectify all women.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 10, 2012 03:14 PM (nEUpB)

157 153 I predict that somewhere in America tonight, a lonely overweight man dressed in jeans and a polo shirt is going to believe that the exotic dancer with scintillating breasts, firm buttocks, and smooth elbows thrusting to Nickleback while sitting upon his ample lap is truly the woman he is going to marry shag for $50. Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 07:12 PM (Ec6wFTFY

Posted by: Rick Perry at January 10, 2012 03:14 PM (niZvt)

158  I'm starting to get a twitch in my left eye.

Posted by: Joffen at January 10, 2012 07:10 PM (zLeKL)

 

Your right eye should tell your left eye that this is only NH.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 03:14 PM (/VmDe)

159

Can you imagine that girl at a wedding reception?

Buy me a drink, Sailor?

Posted by: Diane Shawyer at January 10, 2012 03:15 PM (O6q63)

160

#59, Romney picks Huntsman as Veep,

I know this has been a discouraging election but its a bit early in the day for delirium tremens.  The All Mo ticket just isn't going to happen.

Posted by: Emperor of NotRickMittJonNewtRick at January 10, 2012 03:15 PM (epBek)

161 Left?? RINO. Hey, it means the right eye is the one that's clear and steady. Or something.

Posted by: Joffen at January 10, 2012 03:15 PM (zLeKL)

162 This is really a pre-results thread since real results don't start coming in till 8:00PM EST. And like it really matters?

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 03:15 PM (i6RpT)

163 >

Posted by: Joffen at January 10, 2012 03:15 PM (zLeKL)

164 153 I predict that somewhere in America tonight, a lonely overweight man dressed in jeans and a polo shirt is going to believe that the exotic dancer with scintillating breasts, firm buttocks, and smooth elbows thrusting to Nickleback while sitting upon his ample lap is truly the woman he is going to marry.   
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 07:12 PM (Ec6wH)

It's a start. Now, throw in some emo vampires and we'll toss $$$ your way for the screenplay like Barky supporting "green industries"!

Posted by: Hollywood, desparately seeking something, anything, new at January 10, 2012 03:15 PM (FcKXR)

165 i predict there will be pizza and beer in about 30 minutes, and the beer will be here first.

Posted by: Racefan at January 10, 2012 03:15 PM (BoG0J)

166 @165: Obviously, you missed our erudite tampons-soaked-in-vodka discourse a few weeks back...

Posted by: Rick Perry at January 10, 2012 03:16 PM (niZvt)

167 What time is the bowl game tonight? I can't find it anywhere.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 10, 2012 03:16 PM (PddVe)

168 Remember that Hillary won it in '08.

Posted by: I am the walrus, goo-goo-ga-joo at January 10, 2012 03:16 PM (ybkwK)

169

@166

O.K. you'll probably right, but do you not see the "Oh Shit....we are F'd" moment coming our direction, all because Romney always likes to play patty cake with the Left?

 

Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 03:16 PM (JMsOK)

170

A Tea Party Conservative from the South would balance the Romney ticket, but he will probably pick Chris Christie.

Posted by: snowcrash at January 10, 2012 03:16 PM (w3YD7)

171  Can we reroll if the primary isn't to our liking?


Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 10, 2012 07:14 PM (kUd5w)

 

No, but we could start praying for nuclear war. 

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 03:17 PM (/VmDe)

172 By this time tomorrow this will have all of the significance of a butterfly fart in a tornado.
Just pundits and political operatives scratching each others back to make a living while promoting a long running charade.
The only thing that really matters is who won the all important Dixville Notch Classic. 

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 03:17 PM (HBqDo)

173 whoa... cnn just showed a precinct where Perry got as many votes as Buddy Roemer...

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 03:17 PM (1PXIb)

174 @181 Rubio .... ? Alan West ?

Posted by: John Galt at January 10, 2012 03:18 PM (80GjT)

175

OK, after checking Drudge, I'll bite and pay attention to this train wreck.

DRUDGE READERS IN SC VOTE:

PAUL: 28%
ROMNEY: 22%
SANTORUM 22%
GINGRICH 16%
PERRY 6%

Posted by: Jimmah at January 10, 2012 03:18 PM (TMeYE)

176 146 I'm starting to get a twitch in my left eye.

Posted by: Joffen at January 10, 2012 07:10 PM (zLeKL)

Clouseau's mad boss, ex-Commissioner Charles Dreyfus developed one of those...

Posted by: Pink Panther at January 10, 2012 03:18 PM (tCDfu)

177 87 Really thoughtful post by Melissa Clouthier on the Romney-Bain stuff, populism, and the campaign. 

Posted by: Y-not

 

As soon as I saw who posted this, I interpreted "really thoughtful" as "ripping on Romney and making excuses for Gingrich and Perry."

Follow the link and . . . yep.

Posted by: Emperor of NotRickMittJonNewtRick at January 10, 2012 03:18 PM (epBek)

178
I asked a buddy of mine if his Southern Baptist brother-in-law would vote for a Mormon. He said no fu#cking way.

WTF can we do?

Posted by: sTevo at January 10, 2012 03:18 PM (VMcEw)

179 184 whoa... cnn just showed a precinct where Perry got as many votes as Buddy Roemer... Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 07:17 PM (1PXIb) A couple of moronettes just gently moaned...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:19 PM (niZvt)

180 It's Romney cuz he's electable..
/s

Just keep repeating that and it will come true!

Posted by: Willy at January 10, 2012 03:19 PM (PlLjX)

181 As soon as I saw who posted this, I interpreted "really thoughtful" as "ripping on Romney and making excuses for Gingrich and Perry."
------
Then don't follow the link, chump. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 03:19 PM (5H6zj)

182 "Dead guy" tries to vote in New Hammy. (via Legal Insurrection)


Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2012 03:20 PM (jcnm8)

183

"The All Mormon ticket just isn't going to happen"

Look.....I hope you right, but I'm sorry...please explain to me why. The way I read this at this point in time, is Huntsman is the only guy Romney can pick. He is not gonna pick a No-Name, and he sure isn't going to pick the other four.

He could pick a No Name, but it had better be one hell of a No Name and I just don't see it.

Crazier things have happend! We are so screwed!

Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 03:21 PM (JMsOK)

184 I just put WAR RICK PERRY in the Fox News live chat. I wonder if they will put it through...

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 03:22 PM (zLeKL)

185 I think Mitt's VP will be Nikki Haley...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:22 PM (niZvt)

186 Mitt's Veep choice: Rick Perry.  Bank on it.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 10, 2012 03:22 PM (Gc/Qi)

187 I wonder if it makes sense to propose a constitutional amendment that any aspirant for the nations CEO job must have prior private sector experience in a similar set of roles, or a similar role track. This way we pre-filter out the bozos whom have no business being CEOs.

Posted by: John Galt

 

Looks like someone has been snorting Mitt until his septum dissolved.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 03:22 PM (epBek)

Posted by: sTevo at January 10, 2012 03:23 PM (VMcEw)

189

No, but we could start praying for nuclear war. 

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 07:17 PM (/VmDe)

It is a sign of the times when I can read such a post, and actually have to wonder if it is in earnest, or is a joke, and if I am just that bloody dense.

We live in such times.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 10, 2012 03:23 PM (kUd5w)

190

"The All Mormon ticket

Cost of Magic Underware skyrockets.

Posted by: Cicerokid at January 10, 2012 03:23 PM (tCDfu)

191

Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 07:21 PM (JMsOK)

Willard isnt charismatic enough to not play identity politics. He will have to pick a woman or some ethnic minority.

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 03:23 PM (1PXIb)

192 I think this is kind of the nadir of the campaign--Gingrich will pull out soon, but not before he self-immolates and gives 2nd degree burns to Romney.  Frankly, for someone who needed to bolster his right-wing bonafides, Gingrich turned into an OWS Rumpleforeskin.  He lost my vote.     

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 03:24 PM (Ec6wH)

193 Excellent post, informative and rich.

Posted by: Phoning It In at January 10, 2012 03:24 PM (lVGED)

194 Hey...what about Romney/Hillary 2012?

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 03:24 PM (zLeKL)

195 Posted by: Rick Perry at January 10, 2012 07:16 PM (niZvt)

Undoubtedly.

Did I miss anything?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 10, 2012 03:24 PM (nEUpB)

196 I think the fears of electing a Mormon are as much a non-issue as the fears of electing a Catholic were in 1960.

Posted by: Bob Undead Saget at January 10, 2012 03:25 PM (dBvlk)

197 I hope Newt comes in 6th.  While I like some of his ideas, he is a DC whore.

Posted by: observer at January 10, 2012 03:25 PM (H5DVj)

198

>>Hey, it means the right eye is the one that's clear and steady. Or something.

Oh.

Carry on, then.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 10, 2012 03:25 PM (XdlcF)

199 113..It's gonna be Huntsman, and I'll tell you why.

Two Mormons on the same ticket?? I don't think so.

Posted by: jeanne! at January 10, 2012 03:25 PM (bEnlY)

200

@207...you may have something there.  The Mormon and the Gorgon. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 03:25 PM (Ec6wH)

201 Romney's best choice for Veep is Gov. Jindal. He compliments Romney's profile better than Sen. Rubio I think.

Posted by: John at January 10, 2012 03:26 PM (BBlzg)

202 192 As soon as I saw who posted this, I interpreted "really thoughtful" as "ripping on Romney and making excuses for Gingrich and Perry."
------
Then don't follow the link, chump. 

Posted by: Y-not

If you don't want me to follow your link, don't wink at me like that.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 03:26 PM (epBek)

203 I'm going to tear out what's left of my hair.

Posted by: Willy at January 10, 2012 03:26 PM (PlLjX)

204 @213: The Mormon and the Pantsuit!

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 03:26 PM (zLeKL)

205 I think the fears of electing a Mormon are as much a non-issue as the fears of electing a Catholic were in 1960. Posted by: Bob Undead Saget at January 10, 2012 07:25 PM (dBvlk) He was Catholic? Shit I was scared to elect a boot leggers son!

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 03:26 PM (i6RpT)

206 Hey...what about Romney/Hillary 2012?

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 07:24 PM (zLeKL)

 

Ya' know.  I would have laughed at you just but a month ago.  Now........

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 03:26 PM (/VmDe)

207 I don't care how any of the primaries turn out.  I'm still voting for ABO in 2012.  Anyone But Obama.

Posted by: Marmo an Iowanian at January 10, 2012 03:27 PM (pcgW1)

208

We should all thank Ace for having a blog where wishcasting is not only allowed, but encouraged.

How bad would it be if our comments about our favorite candidates were met with Miki Brzezinski eye rolls and exasperated sighs?  How depressing would it be if post after post were filled with conservatives spouting left wing distortions and mischaracterizations about the person we feel would be good for the country?

Yes, weÂ’re a lucky bunch. 

Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 03:27 PM (FdndL)

209 The way I read this at this point in time, is Huntsman is the only guy Romney can pick. He is not gonna pick a No-Name, and he sure isn't going to pick the other four.
-----
Huntsman is pretty much a no-name.  And he hates Mitt.  Personally hates him.  He has been attacking Mitt, you've just missed the attacks, apparently.

And he brings nothing to the ticket.  People appear to not care about foreign affairs experience this time -- and Huntsman's is more business-flavored anyway, not military, so it's not additive.  So you'd just have two similar demeanor rich guys from wealthy, important families who each served about one term as governor (Huntsman was I think shy of 5 years when he went to work for Bambi). 

Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 03:27 PM (5H6zj)

210 Mitt and Huntsman on the same ticket?
I can't stop laughing Stewie
This place is fucking hilarious.
I really can't stop    Holy Crap

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 03:27 PM (HBqDo)

211 Ya' know. I would have laughed at you just but a month ago. Now........ Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 07:26 PM (/VmDe) Shit ya wanna know something sadder? Against obama I'd vote for it

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 03:28 PM (i6RpT)

212 oh well so I was late...Stewie, Romney doesn't have to pick one of the other candidates. There are still a bunch of governors out there.  And a senator or two.

Posted by: jeanne! at January 10, 2012 03:28 PM (bEnlY)

213 I think the fears of electing a Mormon are as much a non-issue as the fears of electing a Catholic were in 1960.

The Roman Catholic Church's hold over American catholics is virtually nonexistent. But the Mormon Church is incredibly top-down and controlling. Whether Romney is particularly devout is up to some question, though. I suspect most politicians are pretty much self-worshipers who give lip service to a religion only.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:28 PM (r4wIV)

214 Hey...what about Romney/Hillary 2012?

"Heathcare; We know how to fix it....Honest!"

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 03:28 PM (0q2P7)

215 Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 07:27 PM (FdndL) Hey now...I'm watching you, bub.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 03:28 PM (zLeKL)

216 is incredibly top-down and controlling.

How exactly do you explain Glenn Beck and Harry Reid both being part of it then?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 03:29 PM (0q2P7)

217 I think the fears of electing a Mormon are as much a non-issue as the fears of electing a Catholic were in 1960. The last Catholic Presidency didn't end well, IIRC

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 03:29 PM (zLeKL)

218 Buddy Roemer is ahead of Rick W. Perry in early returns.

Posted by: Clarence at January 10, 2012 03:30 PM (z0HdK)

219 Any candidate that decides that in the age of Obama it's a good idea to run to the Left of Romney is dead to me. Period. I mean, just how utterly self-centered and unprincipled do you have to be? Is your personal ambition really more important to you than America? I don't care who started what or who lied or didn't lie. It's not about defending Romney. It's about supposed conservative Republicans mouthing Marxist OWS Bullshit worthy of a Pravda editorial. That's unforgivable. I mean, if ALL the bullshit about RINOs means ANYTHING at all, that was utterly anathema.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:30 PM (niZvt)

220 From Twitter (Andy Levy):
Exit polls show 72% of voters "openly weeping" after casting their ballot, another 16% "crying inside"

Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 03:30 PM (5H6zj)

221

Hey now...I'm watching you, bub.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 07:28 PM (zLeKL)

YouÂ’reÂ…youÂ’reÂ…alive!

Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 03:30 PM (FdndL)

222 @233 -- That's why Romney needs a good running mate!  (hides)

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 03:30 PM (Ec6wH)

223 No way will there be a Romney/Huntsman ticket.
Well I suppose I can't really guarantee the future, but I'll call it a one in a million chance. If that. No upside.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 03:31 PM (Qjh0I)

224

The way I read this at this point in time, is Huntsman is the only guy Romney can pick. He is not gonna pick a No-Name, and he sure isn't going to pick the other four.

The truth is that the Veep doesn't matter that much.  They just have to be plausible and not distract from the top of the ticket.  Actually adding to the ticket is a bonus but doesn't really matter that much.

So why wouldn't he pick one of the other four?  He won't pick Paul or Gingrich, but Perry or Santorum would be fine.  This campaign stuff is never quite as personal as it seems.

And what about Christie, Rubio, Jindal, Pawlenty, Haley, Paul Ryan, Daniels, Susana Martinez, Thune . . . is No Name?  They vary in their degree of name recognition but they're all plausible.  They're not nobodies.  And that doesn't even exhaust the list.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 03:31 PM (epBek)

225

Here is the other thing!

If the media wants Huntsman...which they do....then how many people are actually going to know Huntsman is a Mormon as well?

Don't let the moderate Left fool you, many are just as scared of another 4 of Obama as us, but they just want to pretend they are gunning for Obama for the cocktail parties while pooping on Conservatives. They know better than anybody that Obama is killing the Democratic Party and they have got to get him out and stop the bleeding, they just aren't going to admit that in public.

 

Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 03:31 PM (JMsOK)

226 Newt/Engles 2012?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:31 PM (niZvt)

227 How exactly do you explain Glenn Beck and Harry Reid both being part of it then?

The second part of my post that you didn't quote, about politicians being self serving and only nominally part of a religion.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:32 PM (r4wIV)

228

Buddy Roemer is ahead of Rick W. Perry in early returns.

Not my first rodeo, cowboy.

Posted by: Buddy Roemer at January 10, 2012 03:32 PM (O6q63)

229

so he's gonna pick a guy like Christie

Posted by: chemjeff at January 10, 2012 07:30 PM (7FadD)

IÂ’m not too sure Mitt needs help with Northwestern moderates.

Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 03:32 PM (FdndL)

230 Your concerns have been notated and are being tabulated for response. Please be patient.

Posted by: Mitt Romney : Human at January 10, 2012 03:32 PM (lVGED)

231 Would anyone like to read a Really Thoughtful Post about Alabama?

Posted by: Les Miles at January 10, 2012 03:32 PM (ad7NF)

232 From CNN's live blog:


7:27 p.m. ET
– With 1% of the precincts reporting, Romney has received 38% followed by Paul with 23%, Huntsman with 16%, Gingrich with 12%, Santorum with 10% and Perry with 0%.

Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 03:33 PM (X6akg)

233 An open primary.  I don't get.  Why does the RNC count these assholes.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 03:33 PM (/VmDe)

234 I love that TV show! you know the one? the one that... uh..you know the one?!!!

Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 03:33 PM (U1GWm)

235 I'm going to name my next dog Buddy Roemer

Posted by: The Dog Walker at January 10, 2012 03:33 PM (niW49)

236 If Romney wins, his smart move would be a more conservative-friendly choice, like Perry or Pawlenty. Someone that's not ready for prime time but would be an addition to the ticket to reduce the revulsion conservatives feel about voting for Romney rather than against Obama.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:33 PM (r4wIV)

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 03:34 PM (oZfic)

238

Posted by: chemjeff

At the very least Romney is making the Obamites very nervous about the possibility of a Christie Veep nod. He's a nightmare for people who survive by spin and fancy talkin'.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 03:34 PM (Qjh0I)

239 Funky looking cheerleader on that last thread.

Posted by: sTevo at January 10, 2012 03:34 PM (VMcEw)

240

Buddy Roemer is ahead of Rick W. Perry in early returns.

 

But Rick is creaming “Rounding Error” by a wide margin.

Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 03:34 PM (FdndL)

241 Romney will choose Pawlenty as VP.

Bush 41 proved you don't want a VP that has more charisma - thus Quayle.

Romney/Pawlenty ---- heart be still!

Posted by: Clarence at January 10, 2012 03:34 PM (z0HdK)

242 209 I think the fears of electing a Mormon are as much a non-issue as the fears of electing a Catholic were in 1960.

Posted by: Bob Undead Saget at January 10, 2012 07:25 PM (dBvlk)

Kennedy's Catholicisim was very much an issue, as it should have been.  It's a genuine question as to whether his foreign policy directives would be influenced by the Vatican.  Late in Johnson's term, the Pope was openly critical of U.S. policy in Vietnam.  Would it have influenced JFK's choices?  Maybe.  Is that a bad thing?  I don't know, maybe not. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 10, 2012 03:34 PM (Gc/Qi)

243 exit polls showing 44% of the electorate in NH is independent, good grief

Posted by: Jose at January 10, 2012 03:35 PM (srIqv)

244 249 From CNN's live blog: 7:27 p.m. ET – With 1% of the precincts reporting, Romney has received 38% followed by Paul with 23%, Huntsman with 16%, Gingrich with 12%, Santorum with 10% and Perry with 0%. Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 07:33 PM (X6akg) Well... That means Perry has the most potential for improvement, right?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:35 PM (niZvt)

245 I think you're worrying unnecessarily about Huntsman, Stewie.  He's not going anywhere.  I read a while back that his daddy (who is a billionaire) was not going to dump an inexhaustible supply of money into Jon Jr's campaign and Jon Jr is rich, but not Romney rich.  And he polls something like 20% in Utah where he was governor. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 03:35 PM (5H6zj)

246 254 oh what a mess:  "Mitt Romney Fights With Reporter After Being Exposed As A Liar"  

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 07:34 PM (oZfic)

Thats from 2008...

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 03:35 PM (1PXIb)

247 227 But the Mormon Church is incredibly top-down and controlling.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

Uh-huh.  Did you know that the Chief Mormon Elder of Prophident totally ordered me to write this comment calling you a lackwit, lying tool?

True story.

That's how I know he's inspired.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 03:36 PM (epBek)

248 I predict Ron Paul will end the evening as big a dick as ever.

Posted by: nickless at January 10, 2012 03:36 PM (/McNP)

249 Pick me! Pick me!

Posted by: Meghan McCain at January 10, 2012 07:11 PM (nEUpB)

Meggie, I will pick you if we can get an emoticon of privacy.

Posted by: Some Fat Guy at January 10, 2012 03:36 PM (oxgwp)

250 Bruce Bartlett is leading in early returns.

Posted by: Clarence at January 10, 2012 03:36 PM (ad7NF)

251 What's that smell?

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 03:36 PM (zLeKL)

252

Thats from 2008...

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 07:35 PM (1PXIb)

Interesting.  My lib/dem friend is sending it around like it happened today.  I guess I will respond now.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 03:37 PM (oZfic)

253 Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist

So is her handbag, but don't mention it or she'll be just mortified!

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 03:37 PM (Qjh0I)

254 I don't care if our candidate is Mormon as long as he renounces all his wives, save one, and announces African-Americans will be allowed in his cabinet.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 10, 2012 03:37 PM (lVGED)

255 All aboard!!

Posted by: Buddy! Bandwagon at January 10, 2012 03:37 PM (XdlcF)

256

"And what about Christie, Rubio, Jindal, Pawlenty, Haley, Paul Ryan, Daniels, Susana Martinez, Thune . . . is No Name?  They vary in their degree of name recognition but they're all plausible"

They aren't No-Name to us, but to 99% of the country they are. Christie is out, so is Rubio, so is Ryan unless you beleive they were bluffing.

And I have seen the power puff attacks from Huntsman on Romney....I'm telling you, those two are not enemies of each other.

Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 03:37 PM (JMsOK)

257 #214 I agree but Jindal has been a strong supporter of Rick Perry. Does that count against him?

Posted by: snowcrash at January 10, 2012 03:37 PM (w3YD7)

258
136 We shall add your ideological distinctiveness to our own.
Resistance is futile.
Launch the drones.
Begin the assimilation.

Resist this!

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at January 10, 2012 03:37 PM (1hM1d)

259
I've been talking to the right people, and don't count me out as a potential VP candidate. I'm ready for to be vetted.

Posted by: COD at January 10, 2012 03:38 PM (TkGkA)

260 I don't care if our candidate is Mormon as long as he renounces all his wives, save one, and announces African-Americans will be allowed in his cabinet.

Nah, they had a new prophecy in the 70s that announced now blacks can get into heaven. LIke the earlier one that erased Joseph Smith's insistence that there were people living on the moon wearing puritan clothing.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:38 PM (r4wIV)

261 Does anyone else smell that? Kinda like a litter box needs changing...

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 03:39 PM (zLeKL)

262

If Romney wins, his smart move would be a more conservative-friendly choice

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 07:33 PM (r4wIV)

 

Mitt would need to fill the hole, so he needs someone with Tea Party credibility.  He needs someone from the south or Midwest and someone who is good on the attack.

He should get down and blow Rubio in an attempt to convince him to be VP, but failing that, there are others.

Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 03:40 PM (FdndL)

263 There is really only one Veep choice I'm pining for, and it's Ruxin from "The League".

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 03:40 PM (Qjh0I)

264 OT quite a bit, but I was just reading a book review at Reason on some of the origins and motives for gun control laws in the US. For example, the reviewer discusses CA and The Black Panther Party -- I'm sure many of you have seen photos of the TBPP members toting rifles and shotguns around in the 60s. Here's a review blurb:
 
Seale concluded that “the time has come for black people to arm themselves against this terror before it is too late. The pending Mulford Act brings the hour of doom one step nearer.” With that, the Panthers marched with their weapons through the front doors of the statehouse and into the viewing area of the Assembly chamber. Carrying loaded guns into the Capitol building was perfectly legal—until three months later, when Gov. Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford bill into law.
 
In other words, Reagan was largely responsible for the onerous CA laws on firearms that exist to this day. Now for dissing Reagan in any way shape or form, I shall set fire to my sword and fall on a bush. Something like that.
 
It's an interesting review. The book title is Gunfight: The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America, by Adam Winkler.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 10, 2012 03:40 PM (BhuDE)

265

They aren't No-Name to us, but to 99% of the country they are. Christie is out, so is Rubio, so is Ryan unless you beleive they were bluffing.

Posted by: Stewie

Joe Biden wasn't a household name.  Somehow Obama managed to stumble to victory.

Once the Veep gets picked, they *become* a household name.  Ever heard of Palin? Sarah Palin?

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 03:40 PM (epBek)

266 277 #214 I agree but Jindal has been a strong supporter of Rick Perry. Does that count against him?

Nah, it just means he's eager to move on to his next job and jumped the gun in picking a candidate he thought would be most likely to help him get out of Louisiana.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 03:40 PM (ad7NF)

267

I am working from the position that Romney doesn't need Conservatives. He knows he is getting "X"% regardless. If you pay attention he is not campaigning to us, he campaigning to the Left of us, which means he may go even farther left during the general.

I don't believe support for Obama is as strong as many think.

Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 03:41 PM (JMsOK)

268 He'll pick Perry, although he can not stand him.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at January 10, 2012 07:39 PM (hXJOG)

Perry wont accept. Romney can do something like that, but Perry holds grudges.

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 03:42 PM (1PXIb)

269 Aaaaah have a dream this evening...

Aaaah have a dream that Mitt Romney looks like he's been kicked in the stomach, as he beats Jon Huntsman by 27--22, with Santorum getting 21, Paul 15, and Gingrich 14...Perry...Don't ask!

Aaaah have a dream this evening...

Aaahh have a dream that, as the pack moves to South Carolina, the state of the majestic palmettos and awesome fireworks and legally shooting deer from the roadsides, that those rooock-ribbed sons of the South will have a desperate huddle, and they will concluuuude, in their conSIDered, plenary, joint and several wisdom:

That Mitt Romney must NOT be allowed to take the Palmetto State;...AND...

That Newt Gingrich's latest flirtation with watery Marxism has proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that he cannot and will never shake his genius for political self-destruction;  AND...

That Senator Santorum, for all his qualifications, has never shown the organizational strength to support a national campaign versus a RINO...AND...

That this nation of conservatives MUST have a full-throated champion to carry the fight to that soft-handed plastic-smiled weathervane...AND...that South Carolina must and shall make its maaaark!

Aaaah have a dream this evening!!  That these South Carolina patriots, the sons of Coleman porters and the sons of engineers, scions of slaves and slaveholders, children of plenty and children of poverty, that these humble agents of awesome history shall march forth and unite their votes behind one man who shall rocket out of their primary like one of those majestic Roman candles we love to purchase there!

Aaah have a dream this evening!! 

Maaah friends, I said before, "DON'T ASK!!" about Governor Perry of Texas...because, from this day forward, he shall be anointed, like King David, the conservative champion here on this historic soil!!  From Charleston to Spartanburg, from Anderson to Myrtle Beach, from the piedmont to the palmettos, the conservative citizens of this state shall rise from the primordial swamp and push forward a shining warrior worthy of those conservative worthies across our blessed nation!!

Maaah friends, be not faint of heart!!  Put behind you the kookiness of Iowa, and the corruption of New Hampshire!  Forget about the low swinishness of those media provocateurs--their fateful day of reckoning is coming soon, and they know it in their congested, soulless little hearts.  Go forth in the next 7 days, put your money where your mouths are, and you shall make history!  Next tuesday, the green fields of South Carolina shall lead us into the sunlit uplands of freedom, where we shall win one for the Rickster!! 

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at January 10, 2012 03:42 PM (hRH92)

270 Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 07:39 PM (zLeKL)

I think it's cat pee and KY jelly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 10, 2012 03:42 PM (nEUpB)

271 @253: you don't think Romney struck a VP deal with Haley for her endorsement, Chris T.? You may be right about Pawlenty: someone no one could caricature as incompetent, but not too flashy is what Romney would want. Perry doesn't fit those criteria, based on his debates and flamboyant style. OMG - why did that hideous beast Debbie Wasserman Schultz just wash up on FNC? WTF??

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:42 PM (niZvt)

272

"Ever heard of Palin? Sarah Palin?"

Yeah it worked out well...so well that Obama won!

Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 03:42 PM (JMsOK)

273 "Kennedy's Catholicisim was very much an issue, as it should have been."



Gee, why do Catholics lean Democrat when the Republicans are so warm and open to them?

Posted by: Sarah Palin at January 10, 2012 03:43 PM (Yigvc)

274 46 mpfs. Perry. Fox site had running first at 36% and Drudge had him at 19% just behind Paul and Romney. Granted this very early reporting but that is a positive start. Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 10, 2012 06:46 PM (YeIP1) Wrong "Rick" - unfortunately.

Posted by: wooga at January 10, 2012 03:43 PM (vjyZP)

275 LIke the earlier one that erased Joseph Smith's insistence that there were people living on the moon wearing puritan clothing.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

Was this before or after Joseph Smith swore his eternal allegiance to Satan while drinking virgin blood?

I don't need snakehandling illiterate bigots like you to tell me silly lies about my religion.  Up your game, read a Jack Chick tract.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 03:43 PM (epBek)

276 @Stewie that Huntsman thing is a temporary trick for hacks and their know nothing barking seal followers.

They did the same thing with McCain, remember how NYT endorsed him and then the day he was safe with the nom they dropped that hit job about an affair with a lobbyist?  Something they were obviously sitting on at the time of their endorsement.  It's a game, if Hunstman won like McCain did, the left will ratchet up the cognitive dissonance machine to 11 and a month later it will be Stalinesque like all this current Huntsman breathy loving never happened.

Remember 30Rock where (during the hillary/obama battle) Tina Feys character said she would tell everyone she going to vote for Obama but secretly vote for McCain?  After Obama won you heard the exact opposite... the previous McCain affair of years from the left was nary a mental speedbump.  McCain fell for it, he literally used to call the press "his base" and was all confused when they suddenly turned on him.  That's how the game is played, learn it or get played.

Posted by: Shiggz at January 10, 2012 03:43 PM (RfvTE)

277 Obama would absolutely lose if the election were held today. He's a horrible candidate. If he were our guy we'd be wailing and gnashing teeth, wishing someone would primary the guy. His only appeal in 2008 was "hey a first black president," "I hate Republicans," and "ooh he talks gud." Those don't apply any longer. He's toast, unless something major changes in the next 10 months, which isn't impossible.

But Romney would be smart to get someone more conservative friendly on his roster if he gets the nod, because you can't really win by people voting against your foe, you have to get people to want to vote for you at least a little.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:44 PM (r4wIV)

278 214 I agree but Jindal has been a strong supporter of Rick Perry. Does that count against him? Posted by: snowcrash at January 10, 2012 07:37 PM (w3YD7) Romney: Northeast, Moderate, Business and Healthcare policy experience Jindal: Southern, Conservative, entitlement and healthcare policy experience. I don't know if Romney would hold the Perry endorsement against him, but it would be foolish for him to do so.

Posted by: John at January 10, 2012 03:44 PM (BBlzg)

279

Nah, it just means he's eager to move on to his next job and jumped the gun in picking a candidate he thought would be most likely to help him get out of Louisiana.

But...but he just got sworn in yesterday...

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 10, 2012 03:44 PM (XdlcF)

280 281 Does anyone else smell that? Kinda like a litter box needs changing... Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 07:39 PM (zLeKL) someone's Depends let them down?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:44 PM (niZvt)

281 I don't need snakehandling illiterate bigots like you to tell me silly lies about my religion.

You need to study your source books better, son. I'm just telling you what they used to say before being edited by later prophets. Women used to have to marry a good Mormon man to get into heaven, too. That got changed recently.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:45 PM (r4wIV)

282 UnionLeader.com With 1 Concord ward left to report, Romney 1,923, Huntsman 1,501, Paul 1,442 ...

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 03:45 PM (Qjh0I)

283 I think the Lamanite vote will put Mitt over the top.  There are lots of Lamanites in New Hampshire.  They run most of the casinos.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at January 10, 2012 03:45 PM (QKKT0)

284 Voted for Newt, and hope any candidate can stay 10% or less to Mittens. See ya's in SC. LIVE FREE OR DIE Mofo's!!!!!

Posted by: Knightbrigade at January 10, 2012 03:46 PM (zZ51c)

285 Generals gather in their masses...

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 03:47 PM (zLeKL)

286

Yeah it worked out well...so well that Obama won!

Posted by: Stewie

I hadn't realized before that the main problem with the McCain campaign was that he picked a nobody.

I thought the main problem was McCain.

And the economy.  Two main problems.  McCain, the economy, and the fact that he was running against a historic black guy. And the Bush legacy.  And . . .

Look, no serious political guys think that a VP has to have the level of name recognition that you think they do.  You're the only person I've ever heard this from.

You're also starting to get boring, so don't expect me to reply to your latest raving.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 03:47 PM (epBek)

287

"Dixville Notch" sounds like the opening band for Black Oak Arkansas.

Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 03:48 PM (X6akg)

288 And I have seen the power puff attacks from Huntsman on Romney....I'm telling you, those two are not enemies of each other.
---
Yes, they are.  There was an in-depth article on the two families done by some place -- I think it was Vanity Fair, but I can't find it now -- that detailed the origins of their dislike for each other.  I read it last year and spoke with my neighbors here, many of whom worked for Huntsman and/or for Romney in the Olympics, and they confirmed that there is animosity between the two.  Huntsman's mom, in particular, seems to really hate Mitt. 

If I find the article I'll link to it. 

In the meantime, this recent article from a Utah paper kind of touches on the tensions between them a bit. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 03:48 PM (5H6zj)

289 #260

Was William F Buckley's Catholicism an issue?

Posted by: packsoldier at January 10, 2012 03:48 PM (MIT63)

290 Newt loves America so much he is working on some new split-tail up in New Hampshire.

Posted by: Clarence at January 10, 2012 03:48 PM (z0HdK)

291

 Why has no one mentioned Rubio for VP?

Rubio mentioned VP once. Said he wasn't interested.

Posted by: Dick_Nixon at January 10, 2012 03:49 PM (wfbQL)

292 A Perry-Biden VP debate would consist of those two sitting at a table and playing Go Fish for 90 minutes witha moderator to keep score. I might even watch that.

Posted by: God Help Us. at January 10, 2012 03:49 PM (jiwQf)

293 >>There are lots of Lamanites in New Hampshire.  They run most of the casinos.

They're all over the floors and countertops too.
They're real big.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 03:49 PM (HBqDo)

294 Good point, BUT Perry might see this as his only chance at a national office, besides running the Republic of Texas.

VP still gets a lot of shit, but Perry won't wear the underwear to get it.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at January 10, 2012 07:44 PM (hXJOG)

Do you really think he is hot for national office after that clusterfuck of a campaign? He is the biggest fish in Texas, but insignificant on the national stage, despite his excellent record. He will go back home and lick his wounds.

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 03:49 PM (1PXIb)

295 @309: Rubio is great and may well be POTUS one day, but it's too soon for him now. Too young and inexperienced.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:50 PM (niZvt)

296 The Veep sweepstakes/auditions/vetting are all a part of the late-stage campaign. You can bet all of the frontrunners have given serious thought to who they'd serve with, in either role. For those who've run before, they've probably put out feelers over the years. Often the geography thing is a big consideration, but then you get an Arkansas/Tennessee combo in Clinton/Gore and the conventional wisdom is upset.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 03:50 PM (Qjh0I)

297 Yeah it worked out well...so well that Obama won!

McCain got a big boost in the polls twice. The first was when Russia invaded Georgia and McCain instantly condemned it while Obama waffled around and muttered something about everyone getting along... and the second was when he picked Sarah Palin as his VP.

He actually was riding high when he went to Washington DC, suspending his campaign to do his job in congress about the financial melt down. He could have carried it to victory had he taken a strong stance and fought against TARP, using his position and seniority in congress to block it or at least fight to stop it. But he just went there and obeyed everyone else and showed no leadership. And his polling numbers cratered.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:51 PM (r4wIV)

298 >>Posted by: Clarence at January 10, 2012 07:48 PM (z0HdK)

Your eyes are crossed when you post, right?
Now I get it.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 03:51 PM (HBqDo)

299 295 "Kennedy's Catholicisim was very much an issue, as it should have been."
Gee, why do Catholics lean Democrat when the Republicans are so warm and open to them?

Posted by: Sarah Palin at January 10, 2012 07:43 PM (Yigvc)

Actually, mass going catholics are heavily republican. The cafeteria catholic is heavily democrat.You end up with about a 50-50 split with the retards being libtarded, democrat, and hell bound. Although they will say their focus is "social justice" which is a code word for communism.

 

Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 03:52 PM (TCgts)

300 2016 will be a landslide for Rand Paul. Increase our numbers by +10%, and these primaries will be a lock.

Posted by: M at January 10, 2012 03:52 PM (a0mPp)

301

You need to study your source books better, son. I'm just telling you what they used to say before being edited by later prophets. Women used to have to marry a good Mormon man to get into heaven, too. That got changed recently.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

Slut, I've read the modern editions many times and the 1830 original Book of Mormon too.  Nothing remotely about Space Pilgrims in there.  I'm thinking you don't even know enough about this topic to be ignorant.

About getting married, nope.  Now you may blow me.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 03:52 PM (epBek)

302 Romney will pick the Governor of VA as his VP.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 10, 2012 03:53 PM (YeIP1)

303 I'll admit I'm not enamored of Mormonism. I hold with Han Solo when it comes to hokey religions: and it's damned hard to even imagine a hokier one than Mormonism.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:53 PM (niZvt)

304

 Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at January 10, 2012 07:52 PM

 

I wouldn't blame anyone saying "Hell No" to any of our candidates at this time.

Posted by: Dick_Nixon at January 10, 2012 03:53 PM (wfbQL)

305 There are lots of Lamanites in New Hampshire.  They run most of the casinos.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist

Absolutely, know what I'm sayin'.

Posted by: Vito ManyFeathers at January 10, 2012 03:53 PM (epBek)

306  2016 will be a landslide for Rand Paul.

Increase our numbers by +10%, and these primaries will be a lock.

Posted by: M at January 10, 2012 07:52 PM (a0mPp)

Nope, definitely not.

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 03:54 PM (1PXIb)

307 Can someone on this site look into/cover this supposed fraud, 3rd party, that is really just a spoiler front group party to redirect votes away from the GOP. I had floated it via email to Mark Levin, but he has not mentioned it, and another caller called his show yesterday with the same question, and Mark perked up, as he said he had not heard of it, but would look into it as well. http://tinyurl.com/7znusfv If this is true, it's pure evil, and typical of Obama and his thugs.

Posted by: I do not trust them at January 10, 2012 03:54 PM (/MuFf)

308

How many candidates had the guts to call teh SCOAMF a socialist on national TV?  I want someone who isn't afraid to attack Obama for what he is.

Mitt wouldn't do it, as I recall.  Hmmm, who was that guy?  Was there more than one?  I don't remember...

Posted by: Marmo at January 10, 2012 03:54 PM (pcgW1)

309 Bang, bang, bang. The only memory I have of the McCain campaign was my sitting at the kitchen table and banging my head on the table as various and sundry retards in my family and on TV, including McCain himself, told me how important it was to "stay in the middle" and how not to be afraid of Obama. Bang, bang, bang, bang.

Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 03:54 PM (TCgts)

310 About getting married, nope.

If you can find an honest older member of your church, talk to him about women getting into heaven. You can't erase memories, only change texts and take out the old versions.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:55 PM (r4wIV)

311 Nobody cares! nobody cares! it's a put on. it all blows! these pukes couldn't run a laundramat and we all know it. There is going to be no leader emerge from this pack of half-goods, and the game is over. This is just a sad rerun without the hope of a Sarah mixed in to make us dream of McCain having a stroke right after he took the oath. Nuke it from orbit!!

Posted by: Errol at January 10, 2012 03:56 PM (vewos)

312 332 I'll admit I'm not enamored of Mormonism. I hold with Han Solo when it comes to hokey religions: and it's damned hard to even imagine a hokier one than Mormonism.

Posted by: CoolCzech

And I'll admit that I bet you don't know enough about it to have an opinion.

Posted by: Vito ManyFeathers at January 10, 2012 03:57 PM (epBek)

313
Your eyes are crossed when you post, right?
Now I get it.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 07:51 PM (HBqDo)

I know what split rail is but what the hell is split tail?

Oh never mind, I'm trying to figure out an idiot.

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 03:57 PM (qKEux)

314 Actually, mass going catholics are heavily republican. The cafeteria catholic is heavily democrat.You end up with about a 50-50 split with the retards being libtarded, democrat, and hell bound. Although they will say their focus is "social justice" which is a code word for communism.


Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 07:52 PM (TCgts)

Exactly.

I have a lot of opinions about the USCCB esp. Cardinal George that would likely get me excommunicated if I voiced them.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 03:57 PM (0q2P7)

315 Obama is a stuttering cluster, c'mon you all know it, of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Bildo at January 10, 2012 03:57 PM (eToum)

316 Early Fox numbers have Paul getting 25%? I hate that that toolbag fucks up every election.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 03:57 PM (Qjh0I)

317

Do you really think he is hot for national office after that clusterfuck of a campaign? He is the biggest fish in Texas, but insignificant on the national stage, despite his excellent record. He will go back home and lick his wounds.

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 07:49 PM (1PXIb)

 

Reagan didn't win the first time he ran.  I'm expecting to see Perry try it again.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 03:58 PM (/VmDe)

318 Mitch Daniels just gave his final state of the state address. It was great. Of course.. union goons were screaming their heads off in the hallway. Retards. Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at January 10, 2012 07:55 PM (qjUnn) How is he going to force the House dems to get back to the capitol for quorum on right to work?

Posted by: John at January 10, 2012 03:58 PM (BBlzg)

319 Fuck you, Shepard, you not-naming-a-mass-shooting-Muslim piece of shit.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 03:58 PM (V6fqC)

320

>>Oh never mind, I'm trying to figure out an idiot.

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 07:57 PM (qKEux)

A lyin' idjit

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (HBqDo)

321 Anybody but Ron Paul!

Posted by: gride at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (wPKc6)

322 My atheist buddy said if he had to be in a religion he'd want it to be Mormonism because you get your own planet if you're a good enough one (Celestial heaven).

I have nothing against Mormons as people, they're usually better upstanding moral folks (externally at least, I can't read hearts) than most Christians are. Mormons are hard working people who accomplished wonders in Utah and other places they've been numerous. They are good folks and good citizens.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (r4wIV)

323

Slut, I've read the modern editions many times and the 1830 original Book of Mormon too.  Nothing remotely about Space Pilgrims in there.  I'm thinking you don't even know enough about this topic to be ignorant.

About getting married, nope.  Now you may blow me.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 07:52 PM (epBek

 

Finally, someone who can fill in the missing few pages of my Dale Carnegie course on “How to Win Friends and Influence People”.

I see IÂ’ve got some things to learn.

Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (FdndL)

324 Part of me wishes all the non-Romney's withdraw from the race tonight promptly at 8pm just to see how Fox news handles the next 5 hours of NH news coverage. How would they fill the time? Would they scramble to get the RedEye crew in the studio?

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (2YIVk)

325 jimgeraghty If Rick Perry ends with 316 votes in New Hampshire, did he turn out to be the Tim Tebow of this field after all?

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (Qjh0I)

Posted by: EBL at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (IgakF)

327 Romne will choose Kasich as VP. Lock up Ohio.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (yCS09)

328 Early Fox numbers have Paul getting 25%? I hate that that toolbag fucks up every election.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 07:57 PM (Qjh0I)

The independent vote seems to be split between Romney, Huntsman and Paul. Try to imagine how Paul would have performed if Mike Huntsman were not on the ballot.

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 04:00 PM (1PXIb)

329 Reagan didn't win the first time he ran.  I'm expecting to see Perry try it again.

Well, he'll get another chance in 2016.
 

Posted by: sandy burger at January 10, 2012 04:00 PM (0U+Pz)

330 343 332 I'll admit I'm not enamored of Mormonism. I hold with Han Solo when it comes to hokey religions: and it's damned hard to even imagine a hokier one than Mormonism. Posted by: CoolCzech And I'll admit that I bet you don't know enough about it to have an opinion. Posted by: Vito ManyFeathers at January 10, 2012 07:57 PM (epBek) american Indians are really just the Lost Tribes of Israel, for Pete's Sake? I think C.T. Is doing a good job of showing you're not exactly an expert, yourself. FNC CALLS IT FOR MITT!!! 36%

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:00 PM (niZvt)

331

FBN calls it for Willard!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 10, 2012 04:01 PM (TkGkA)

332 Funny thing is, the Ron Paul nuts get excited for 2nd place.

"Yay, we're first place losers!"

Posted by: gride at January 10, 2012 04:01 PM (wPKc6)

333 They called it for Romney.

CNN and Fox

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:01 PM (oZfic)

334 I don't know any conservatives in real life - so I ask you guys.  WTF is wrong with Hailey Barbour pardoning those four murderers? 

Is the Huckster contagious?

Posted by: Clarence at January 10, 2012 04:01 PM (z0HdK)

335 The weak frontrunner has just done something no non-incumbent candidate has ever done.

Posted by: Ken Royall at January 10, 2012 04:01 PM (umam+)

336

If you can find an honest older member of your church, talk to him about women getting into heaven. You can't erase memories, only change texts and take out the old versions.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

How young do you think I am, pork chop?

Look, you're just butt ignorant on this issue.  You're not even wrong.

Because we still believe that women (and men too) have to be married to make it to the highest level of the highest heaven.  No change recently because there's been no change at all.  Not that this has anything to do with you saying that the Mormon leadership would tell Romney what to do in the White House.

How can anyone think you're remotely credible on any of this?  You're trying to tell me what I believe without knowing anything about the religion yourself, linking to any credible sources, or showing any signs at all of knowing what you're talking about.

No, I take that back.  Unlike most antis, you got Joseph Smith's name right.  You're practically a Ph.D. candidate.

Posted by: Vito ManyFeathers at January 10, 2012 04:01 PM (epBek)

337

Reagan didn't win the first time he ran.  I'm expecting to see Perry try it again.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 07:58 PM (/VmDe)

 

I just watched “The King’s Speech” last night, so I know there are people who can help him.

Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 04:01 PM (FdndL)

338 Okay, having not read every comment... do you guys really think Obama would defeat Romney?  I mean the country is going down the shitter so fast, do you really think the jugeard fuck can beat him?  I am not a Romney fan btw, but for God's sake, some people act like he's the devil incarnate.  NO ONE is as bad as Jugears McFuckstick.  Can we win an election on the "lesser of of two evils" angle?

Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2012 04:02 PM (Z71Vg)

339

And Jon Huntsman unleashes...

 

But are his daughters single?

Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at January 10, 2012 04:02 PM (fOmkv)

340 The biggest problem with a Romney presidency is... having to try to justify backing and pushing for him to win in 2016. I mean... I can barely stand voting for a northeastern squish to begin with but for reelection? If Huntsman ran as a Democrat I might vote for him instead.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:02 PM (r4wIV)

341
I have a lot of opinions about the USCCB esp. Cardinal George that would likely get me excommunicated if I voiced them.

Like saying they are all gay leftists? Ye-up. There are a couple of bishops that aren't but they are few and far between. A monseigneur told me once that the papal nuncio for the United States--the guy who sent back to Rome the names of the guys who should be elevated to bishop was a fairy princess. This went on for 30 years and resulted in our currently gay lib crop of socialists in the USCCB. A few good ones have slipped through and I think Benedict knows what has gone on but what an incredible mess of libtardism it is now. There are decent dioceses but the american bishops should be looked on with much skepticism.

Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 04:02 PM (TCgts)

342 Sharp knees.

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 10, 2012 04:02 PM (2YIVk)

343

I just watched “The King’s Speech” last night, so I know there are people who can help him.

LMAO!

Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2012 04:02 PM (Z71Vg)

344

Well, then here we go:

Willard-Bot for PotUS 2012!

Willard-Bot for Impeachement 2013!

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 04:03 PM (1PXIb)

345

 blaster at January 10, 2012 07:59 PM

Kasich ain't exactly popular in Ohio right now. He lost that recall election rather handily on the union law in November didn't he?

But I do like Kasich.

Posted by: Dick_Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:03 PM (wfbQL)

346 Because we still believe that women (and men too) have to be married to make it to the highest level of the highest heaven. No change recently because there's been no change at all.

Apparently the Mormon elders I spoke to were mistaken on the topic. They wouldn't know as well as you, I suppose. Like I said, go find an older Mormon and talk to them about how things were in the 60s and 70s, if you really care. Or don't that's fine with me. No reason to be insulting about it though, I imagine you were taught to not do that when you were going to seminary.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:03 PM (r4wIV)

347 Is it just me or does David Gregory seem to be devolving?

Posted by: no good deed at January 10, 2012 04:03 PM (mjR67)

348 Is this going to become a full-blown religion flame thread?  Because if it is, I've got some shit to lay on the Hindus.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at January 10, 2012 04:04 PM (QKKT0)

349 Just hoping nobody calls Mittens "Honey Badger." I heard enough of that shit last night.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 04:04 PM (V6fqC)

350

@310

Emperor,

So the media and late night, you know the people who actually dictate the campaign because average Americans are too stupid to really care and pay attention, made McCain the issue late in the campaign and not Palin?

Funny, because I don't recall seeing one McCain parody during the campaign. She did in fact help McCain in the beginning, but once she became the focus, and the media applied their craft, it became obvious all hope was lost.

But, if you choose to beleive that VP choice is not important, your free to do so.

 

Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 04:04 PM (JMsOK)

351

Is it just me or does David Gregory seem to be devolving?

Into what?  He's still a douchenozzle.

Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2012 04:04 PM (Z71Vg)

352 Uh, when is the New Hampshire primary again?

Posted by: Rick Perry at January 10, 2012 04:05 PM (niZvt)

353 Huntsman?

Posted by: Joffen at January 10, 2012 04:05 PM (zLeKL)

354 I am the 1%.

Posted by: Rick Perry at January 10, 2012 04:05 PM (ad7NF)

355 FNC CALLS IT FOR MITT!!! 36%

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 08:00 PM (niZvt)

 

Well, at least it's not the 40+% everyone was saying he needed to clean up the rest of the nomination.  There's still a lot of primarying to do, folks.  All is not in the bag for Willard.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 04:05 PM (/VmDe)

356 354 My atheist buddy said if he had to be in a religion he'd want it to be Mormonism because you get your own planet if you're a good enough one (Celestial heaven).

I have nothing against Mormons as people, they're usually better upstanding moral folks (externally at least, I can't read hearts) than most Christians are. Mormons are hard working people who accomplished wonders in Utah and other places they've been numerous. They are good folks and good citizens.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

Um, thanks, I guess.  I take it that everything your atheist friend knows about Mormons he got from you? 

 

Finally, someone who can fill in the missing few pages of my Dale Carnegie course on “How to Win Friends and Influence People”.

I see IÂ’ve got some things to learn.

Posted by: jwest

They say that when the student is ready, the master will appear.

Meditate on the following koan and get back to me:

What is the sound of one hand fapping?

Posted by: Vito ManyFeathers at January 10, 2012 04:05 PM (epBek)

357 The 50% rule is in effect. After 50% of returns are in, if someone changes position (within the top 3-ish) it's officially a battle.
The order of finish in Iowa didn't change after 49% had reported. 

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 04:05 PM (Qjh0I)

358 Well, at least it's not the 40+% everyone was saying he needed to clean up the rest of the nomination.  There's still a lot of primarying to do, folks.  All is not in the bag for Willard.

Told ya we'd be busy.

Posted by: Association of Goal Post Movers at January 10, 2012 04:05 PM (ad7NF)

359 This is no primary, its a political funeral march.

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 04:06 PM (1PXIb)

360 I'm not worried about Mitt's religion. It's pretty stupid to go there. It cannot be worse than Marxism so even if he's a fucking druid the human sacrifices would be smaller in number than Obama's friend Mao.

Perspective please.

Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 04:06 PM (TCgts)

361 Did Carl Cameron call Romney a "honey badger"? I swear that's the only thing I hear anymore....

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 04:06 PM (V6fqC)

362 american Indians are really just the Lost Tribes of Israel, for Pete's Sake?

I think C.T. Is doing a good job of showing you're not exactly an expert, yourself.

FNC CALLS IT FOR MITT!!! 36%

Posted by: CoolCzech

CT hasn't even shown that he knows anything about the *current* teachings of the Mormons, let alone what may have been taught 150 years ago.

Posted by: Vito ManyFeathers at January 10, 2012 04:06 PM (epBek)

363 Is it just me or does David Gregory seem to be devolving? Yup. Into a GEICO caveman commercial. Our modern ways confuse and frighten him.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:06 PM (niZvt)

364 387  Just flipping to NCIS and caught a glimpse of him on the tube.  He appears more ape-like every time I see him.

Posted by: no good deed at January 10, 2012 04:06 PM (mjR67)

365 War wants Mitt to clean up so he can get in on that sweet, sweet health-care.

Posted by: Joffen at January 10, 2012 04:07 PM (zLeKL)

366 ABO - ABRP

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 04:07 PM (/VmDe)

367 She's hot.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 04:07 PM (V6fqC)

368

Apparently the Mormon elders I spoke to were mistaken on the topic. They wouldn't know as well as you, I suppose. Like I said, go find an older Mormon and talk to them about how things were in the 60s and 70s, if you really care.

 

Or you could ask the progeny of the other settlers of Utah...oh, wait. 

You can't.  I wonder why that is?

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2012 04:07 PM (fOmkv)

369 Kasich isn't very popular in Ohio. Rob Portman would be a much better pick IMO and has gotta be on anyone's short list.

Posted by: BSR at January 10, 2012 04:07 PM (BH4RQ)

370
Herman Cain bloviating on Cavuto about New Hampshire, and will be ready for consultation with a nubile young female after the show.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 10, 2012 04:08 PM (TkGkA)

371 Your words are hurtful, CoolCzech.

Posted by: Geico Caveman at January 10, 2012 04:08 PM (Qjh0I)

372 205 @189

It's not just the Southern Baptist, read this:

Something tells me Mittens isn't getting the Catholic vote either.

http://tinyurl.com/d95s5ry

Posted by: Republican voters at January 10, 2012 07:24 PM (hXJOG)

Waaaaayyyy late to the party, but I assure you that there are plenty of Catholics that will overcome any potential dislike of "personal" heresy such as Mittens' in order to vote against thegolden calf that is the JEF, SCOAMF, SCOAMT, J.D., Sucker of Cocks, PO(52%of)TUS.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 10, 2012 04:08 PM (lJJMb)

373 Gregory's one color bothers me.

Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 04:08 PM (TCgts)

374 373 The biggest problem with a Romney presidency is... having to try to justify backing and pushing for him to win in 2016. I mean... I can barely stand voting for a northeastern squish to begin with but for reelection?

If he does a shit job, screw it Primary has ass. Should be that way all the time.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 10, 2012 04:09 PM (GZitp)

375 Like I said, go find an older Mormon and talk to them about how things were in the 60s and 70s, if you really care. Or don't that's fine with me. No reason to be insulting about it though, I imagine you were taught to not do that when you were going to seminary.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

I was a Mormon during the 60s and 70s, bigot. You really have no clue.

I don't expect you to come down to the waters of baptism, but stop talking like you are anything more than a mass of prejudice, lies, and misremembered conversations with random people, on the subject of Mormonism.

Posted by: Vito ManyFeathers at January 10, 2012 04:09 PM (epBek)

376 So the evil capitalist won. Now it time for the tea party to go all anti-capitalist anti-rich for some reason.

Posted by: Tjexcite at January 10, 2012 04:09 PM (sk1Ym)

377 Early returns have me at 100% of the vote! hell yeah!
oh...it's one percent? is that good?

Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 04:09 PM (U1GWm)

378 Relax, Vito - I won't let religion dictate my vote. Spouting Marxism is far more important to me. Mitt won huge. The voters have punished those that placed ambition over decency. Good for them!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:10 PM (niZvt)

379 I'm confident that Roman Catholic and other various voters of denominations will overcome any concerns to vote for Romney if they have to to beat Obama.

You can't. I wonder why that is? Heh...

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:10 PM (r4wIV)

380 Don't worry about the catholics thinking Mormonism is bad. Almost no one in the catholic church has any idea what the catholic church teaches. They just wing it.

Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 04:10 PM (TCgts)

381 Who's this Huntsman you speak of?

Posted by: dogfish at January 10, 2012 04:11 PM (N2yhW)

382 One percent! whoohoo boy!
I'm number one! numbah one winner, chicken dinner!

Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 04:11 PM (U1GWm)

383  Please tell me this is the last state stupid enough to vote for Ron Paul

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at January 10, 2012 08:08 PM (qjUnn)

 

Yes.  The primaries are moving out of the stupid states now.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 04:11 PM (/VmDe)

384 CNN stole the Frank Luntz Method and they aren't even good at it.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:11 PM (oZfic)

385

BillyBob,

uhm, that at some points Joseph Smith used them?  I'm not sure what you're asking me.

Posted by: Emperor of Vito ManyFeathers at January 10, 2012 04:11 PM (epBek)

386 1- Romney
2- Ron Paul
3- Jon Huntsman

Hallelujah!  Its raining conservatives!

Posted by: Clarence at January 10, 2012 04:11 PM (z0HdK)

387 The debate you guys are having about Mormonism is really interesting and thought-provoking.

You should continue the discussion over at youtube.com where it belongs.

Posted by: sandy burger at January 10, 2012 04:11 PM (0U+Pz)

388 So ... it's basically over, right?
Perry finished, what, 6th?
Huntsman and Paul have no hope.
Who's the anti-Romney?

The only issue now is how to prevent Paul from running 3rd party and throwing the election to Obama.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 04:12 PM (QcFbt)

389 On twitter (from PoliticalMath):
I gotta say, based on his performance tonight, it looks like its all over for Cain.

Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 04:12 PM (5H6zj)

390 The primaries start in lefty blue states with open primaries in coordination with the MSM, who are picking the R candidate for us while Romney thumbs his nose at conservatives.

I am the .0000001%


Posted by: Willy at January 10, 2012 04:12 PM (PlLjX)

391

"I was a Mormon during the 60s and 70s, bigot. "

Ah yes, before your religion allowed me into Heaven.

Posted by: Average Black Guy at January 10, 2012 04:12 PM (wfbQL)

392 Thankfully, there's still time to get in on the ground floor of the Huntsman juggernaut.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at January 10, 2012 04:12 PM (QKKT0)

393 Have you voted yet, Clubber?  Because if not, it's not over. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 04:13 PM (5H6zj)

394 Are these people under a rock?  Bachman got 2 votes, Roemer got 7 votes.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:13 PM (oZfic)

395 413 >>Gregory's one color bothers me.
Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 08:08 PM (TCgts)

Okay that one gave me a crew cut.

More please.....

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 04:13 PM (HBqDo)

396

Kasich ain't exactly popular in Ohio right now. He lost that recall election rather handily on the union law in November didn't he?

But I do like Kasich.

Posted by: Dick_Nixon at January 10, 2012 08:03 PM (wfbQL)

Kasich made the mistake of going after police and fire unions. Had he just stayed with going after the regular state employee's unions, it probably would have passed.

And yeah, I like Kasich too.

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 04:13 PM (qKEux)

397 1- Romney
2- Ron Paul
3- Jon Huntsman

Hallelujah!  Its raining conservatives!

Posted by: Clarence at January 10, 2012 08:11 PM (z0HdK)

It's raining liberals who wish to continue polishing the turd from the clean end.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 10, 2012 04:13 PM (TkGkA)

398

Romney will take every single primary from here on out.  Mark my words.  Romney knows it, too, so he'll go even more centrist than he has already.

The RINO lovefest is about to begin.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:13 PM (epBek)

399 JimPethokoukis wow, 51% of Huntsman voters said they were satisfied with Obama as president

Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 04:13 PM (d6QMz)

400 Shannon Breem is hotter than Megyn Kelly, there I said it

Posted by: Jose at January 10, 2012 04:14 PM (srIqv)

401 I guess based on this thread I have to modify my statement. Most Mormons are really nice, decent people who make Christians look morally poor in comparison.

I'm really hoping this election basically destroys the party system and people abandon the various parties en masse. The Founding Fathers were very clear about their opposition to party loyalty, they considered it damaging to liberty. And we've seen why.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:14 PM (r4wIV)

402 I really thought Todd Palin would put Newt over the top.

Posted by: Nah, not really. at January 10, 2012 04:14 PM (jiwQf)

403

@442

Yes we know....who's the VP?

Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 04:14 PM (JMsOK)

404 403 War wants Mitt to clean up so he can get in on that sweet, sweet health-care.
Posted by: Joffen at January 10, 2012 08:07 PM (zLeKL)

Ya can't win 'em all, Joffen.

Posted by: Association of Emo Canadian Man-Children at January 10, 2012 04:14 PM (ad7NF)

405 Ron Paul Always a Bridesmaid never a bride...

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at January 10, 2012 04:14 PM (zgwWv)

406 Gregory's hair, skin, lips, etc are all one shade. He creeps me out. Most people have some color variation.

Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 04:14 PM (TCgts)

407 Hallelujah!  Its raining conservatives!
Posted by: Clarence

Troll. A state holding a primary with 44% independents of the total in the primary.  What would you expect.  I see you are still beclowning yourself.

Posted by: dogfish at January 10, 2012 04:14 PM (N2yhW)

408 There are decent dioceses but the american bishops should be looked on with much skepticism

Actually I have even harsher words for them.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:15 PM (0q2P7)

409 I'd vote for Ronney over Obama 26 times if I have to and then do 10 Hail Marys (or is it Hails Mary?). In the words of my Irish priest uncle, "Fuck Obama in his fucking ear"

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 04:15 PM (V6fqC)

410 Per exit polls... 70% that voted for Hunstman IDed as Moderate/Liberal. 51% that voted for Hunstman are satisfied with Obama's performance. Seriously. And this guy is going to finish in 3rd.

Posted by: Doc at January 10, 2012 04:15 PM (/h3en)

411 If Santorum stays at the 10% mark he's currently hovering around, that means his "Iowa bounce" just never happened. Still early.

Posted by: Geico Caveman at January 10, 2012 04:15 PM (Qjh0I)

412

Ah yes, before your religion allowed me into Heaven.

Posted by: Average Black Guy

Heaven you were eligible for.  But you couldn't be a Mormon priest.  Pretty  much indefensible and wrong either way, though, so I'm not going to defend it.  If you really are a black guy, my apologies.

I believe in Mormonism, but we aren't perfect, and that was a bad one.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:15 PM (epBek)

413 Bob McDonnell is the VP. I do like him. He's done great things for Va and can carry the now red but previously retard purple state.

Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 04:16 PM (TCgts)

414 JimPethokoukis and 70% of Huntsman voters described themselves as moderates and liberals

Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 04:16 PM (d6QMz)

415 Hey! Perry's a One Percenter! The Irony!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:16 PM (niZvt)

416 Will the candidate who comes in last drop out tonight?  Or will they continue to come in last?  How does this work?

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:16 PM (oZfic)

417 @442

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wCu8fbF2mM

RHINO love-fest...

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at January 10, 2012 04:17 PM (zgwWv)

418 The RINO lovefest is about to begin.

I suspect you're right, he's going to build his entire campaign around getting the media's version of the moderate to vote for him, while presuming the base will do what they're told. That worked so well for McCain...

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:17 PM (r4wIV)

419 Romney/Rubio 2012

Posted by: ChristyBlinky loves Rubio at January 10, 2012 04:17 PM (baL2B)

420 So explain to me again why Romney is not picking Huntsman as VP? If the Left like both Romney and Huntsman then they don't even need us.

Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 04:17 PM (JMsOK)

421 OT, not sure how to react to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAIQWzW1MIc This song was lame even in 1985.

Posted by: Chris R, red in NY-9 at January 10, 2012 04:17 PM (u2x4P)

422 I know Mitt won and all, but isn't that a weak result. That's his backyard and (if the number holds up) he still couldn't get to at least 40%. If he finishes at 35% that is weaker than McCain's who finished in 2008 at 37%.

Posted by: Ana at January 10, 2012 04:18 PM (SlYiu)

423 I have seen David Gregory's future, and it isn't pretty.  http://tinyurl.com/7ytk353

Posted by: no good deed at January 10, 2012 04:18 PM (mjR67)

424 McDonnell is catholic too.

Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 04:18 PM (TCgts)

425 417 Ron Paul really is the sanest of the candidates. I don't see why he's not getting broader support.

Posted by: Achmed Dinnerjacket at January 10, 2012 04:18 PM (BhuDE)

426

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 08:16 PM (oZfic)

What's that smell?

Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 10, 2012 04:18 PM (TkGkA)

427 @455

Thus the problem with holding open primaries.

Posted by: Willy at January 10, 2012 04:18 PM (PlLjX)

428 Jim G. tweeted that Romney still only gets 4 delegates from this win. True? Fuck Primaries

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 04:18 PM (40rE+)

429 Hallelujah!  Its raining conservatives!

Hallelujah we finally have objective proof the NE is a totally lost cause and New Hampshire should have their primary keys taken away too.  Who should get first shot next time guys? I'm voting for someplace in the west.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:18 PM (0q2P7)

430 In 08 I read through a historical exhaustive breakdown of VP affect on tickets.  Conclusion was startling in how little it affected anything.  Seems like they showed VP was good for about 1% in the VP's home state if they were previously popular there.

Thats regarding how it directly affects the general election.  How it affects culture, party, "optics", perceptions.... those things are probably potentially greater but harder to quantify as to their long term affects.

Like I said the other day, and Entropy took great umbrage with,  The Tea Party as it was seems to be gone, but their helping to put Marco Rubio over Charlie Crist and if Rubio potentially becomes the new fresher face, sincere, nice guy, Cuban, and  anti-communist face of the conservative movement could potentially have long reaching affects.  It's a long shot, but if it happens and the Tea Party never revives.. that one thing could have been worth it.  Or Rubio and the Tea Party fizzle and we devolve into Western Europe with an America to prop up our economy and babysitter our borders and trade routes....  From where I sit, Rubio is potentially the Tea Parties best bet at legacy.... and even that is far from a sure thing.

I give it better then 50/50 that Christie or N Hailey is going to be Romney VP pick.

Posted by: Shiggz at January 10, 2012 04:19 PM (RfvTE)

431 This is why we can't have nice stuff

Posted by: Bob_B at January 10, 2012 04:19 PM (niW49)

432

Perry won't drop out until South Carolina is over, depending on the results. Or at least that is what he said. He will, if he leaves the race, endorse Santorum, IMO.

If Romney wins South Carolina, he will be the nominee.

And my 12th generation Southern Baptist self will vote for him. Anyone who doesn't will be in fact supporting Barak Obama's re election.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:19 PM (wfbQL)

433 467 OT, not sure how to react to this:

Quick!  Someone get John Parr on the phone!

Posted by: Rick Santorum at January 10, 2012 04:19 PM (ad7NF)

434 I know Mitt won and all, but isn't that a weak result.

It doesn't really matter. Basically if you win the first two insignificant and meaningless states, specifically designed to stop any person with integrity out of office, then you're going to cruise unless you somehow blow up and lose Super Tuesday. The system is front loaded to get moderates and the richest candidates wins.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:19 PM (r4wIV)

435 I knew Gingrich was just a fat dumb cocksucker of a statist.

It's good to be right.

Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at January 10, 2012 04:20 PM (vWrND)

436 People who criticise my performance in these primaries are just nit-picking.
Look! Squirrel!!!

Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 04:20 PM (U1GWm)

437

#445,

Yes, the Urim and Thummin.  Egyptian, not really, but other than that, yeah.  So what?  Why are you asking?  What does this have to do with anything?

Answer those questions convincingly and I'll answer whatever other odd questions you have.

446 I guess based on this thread I have to modify my statement. Most Mormons are really nice, decent people who make Christians look morally poor in comparison.

I love that technique.  Lie and smear Mormonism and if Mormons don't take it meekly, complain about what bad Christians we are. 

Jesus used that same technique.  No, wait, he didn't.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:20 PM (epBek)

438 Neat game we play. The Democrats nominate the most liberal guy they have in the Senate.

And we try and compete by nominating the most moderate Republicans we can find.

Next time let's just nominate Meghan McCain.
Or fuck it, let's just nominate Hillary next time.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 04:20 PM (QcFbt)

439 If my math is right Mittens is on track to might not make it to..... McCain's 2008 vote total...

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 04:20 PM (40rE+)

440 Fixed.

...we devolve into Western Europe with  without an America to prop up our economy and babysitter our borders and trade routes.... 

Posted by: Shiggz at January 10, 2012 04:20 PM (RfvTE)

441 I like Luis Fortuña better than Rubio.

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 10, 2012 04:20 PM (2YIVk)

442 I'd happily vote for a Romney/Rubio ticket. Romney/Haley would be ok, but not as good.

Posted by: Jose at January 10, 2012 04:21 PM (srIqv)

443 Sock off.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 04:21 PM (Qjh0I)

444 464 The RINO lovefest is about to begin. I suspect you're right, he's going to build his entire campaign around getting the media's version of the moderate to vote for him, while presuming the base will do what they're told. That worked so well for McCain... Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 08:17 PM (r4wIV) Ii think you're forgetting the AWFUL campaign/non-campaign/surrender McCain ran. Romney has run a terrific campaign and obviously wants to win. I have NO IDEA what the hell McCain was trying to do. Only dark suspicions...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:21 PM (niZvt)

445

Bob McDonnell is the VP. I do like him. He's done great things for Va and can carry the now red but previously retard purple state.

What would you think of Romney (if he's the nominee) if he picked one of our young guns? Cantor, Rubio.. Ryan (if they would take it).  Help or hurt?  Or do you think he needs to go for the older guy who has been around the block a few times but nobody knows?  Or a woman (shudder)?  and I say shudder because of the anal exam Palin got, not because I am against a woman.  I mean, I AM one after all.

Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2012 04:21 PM (Z71Vg)

446 The Tea Party as it was seems to be gone, but their helping to put Marco Rubio over Charlie Crist and if Rubio potentially becomes the new fresher face, sincere, nice guy, Cuban, and anti-communist face of the conservative movement could potentially have long reaching affects.

I'm hoping that the big push to get Tea Party folks in control of the party at the local level worked, because that will matter in the long run, but have smaller effect in the short run. It looks like the GOP elites in the beltway are going to win this contest, but the future? We'll see.

If there's a country left to see it take effect in.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:22 PM (r4wIV)

447 Gregory's hair, skin, lips, etc are all one shade. He creeps me out. Most people have some color variation.

Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 08:14 PM (TCgts)

Dude is a study in egg shell white.

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 04:22 PM (qKEux)

448

466 So explain to me again why Romney is not picking Huntsman as VP? If the Left like both Romney and Huntsman then they don't even need us.

Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 08:17 PM (JMsOK)

Stewie,

In this world, there are dicks, pussies and assholes.  Sure, Romney is a dick, but heÂ’s no pussy.  The last thing he needs now is to pick an asshole. 

Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 04:22 PM (FdndL)

449 Just out of curiosity, what would it take to hand the first to caucus/primary keys to another state.

Posted by: Ana at January 10, 2012 04:22 PM (SlYiu)

450
Dear Beldar,

I did it brother, and will be home on Saturday for a quick visit.  I'm coming on the Mothership with Captain Mook, and look forward to spending time with you and Connie.

Love, Ron

Posted by: Luap Nor at January 10, 2012 04:23 PM (TkGkA)

451 >>I have seen David Gregory's future, and it isn't pretty.  http://tinyurl.com/7ytk353
Posted by: no good deed at January 10, 2012 08:18 PM (mjR67)

You're being too kind. That ape obviously has more intellect and humility

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 04:23 PM (HBqDo)

452

I will take back one thing, CT.  I don't actually know that you're lying.  You could just be certain about things that aren't so.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:23 PM (epBek)

453

romney, paul and huntsman?.......what primary was this again?....

 

 

///good grief...

Posted by: russ hines at January 10, 2012 04:23 PM (GkHqV)

454

I have NO IDEA what the hell McCain was trying to do. Only dark suspicions...

Me neither.  The fuck.  "You have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency".  Oh yeah, asshole?  Fuck you McCain.  I never got it either.

Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2012 04:23 PM (Z71Vg)

455 I bet Ace put up this post and its prediction then went to the movies.  Brace for a review.

Posted by: dogfish at January 10, 2012 04:24 PM (N2yhW)

456

: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at January 10, 2012 08:21 PM

I'll wait til he announces he wants to keep parts of Obamacare in place before I go off on his religion. Plenty of other things about Mittens I don't like, such as his lie that the individual mandate is a conservative principle.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:24 PM (wfbQL)

457 I have NO IDEA what the hell McCain was trying to do.

McCain was running on a combination of inevitability mixed with his apparently almost religious fear of badmouthing or hurting fellow Senators. He seems to hold fellow Senators in an almost terrified awe, unwilling to do anything that might upset them or contradict them in any way.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:24 PM (r4wIV)

458 Oh oh... Mitt's speech... Hope he doesn't say he'd love to fire everyone... (Sorry, had to make that crack... )

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:24 PM (niZvt)

459  I'll even stop with the underwear and stone references.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual

Mitt's a miracle worker.  All hail the true Mormon Messiah.

 

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:24 PM (epBek)

460 Gregory's hair, skin, lips, etc are all one shade. He creeps me out. Most people have some color variation

Maybe he's undead.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:25 PM (r4wIV)

461 Romney would have to nominate some identity politik VP. He aint charismatic enough to carry a ticket.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 04:25 PM (40rE+)

462 Well after the Perry-Bachmann-Cain-Gingrich meteors fizzled out, I guess the task is to make sure that Mittens leans a lot more to the right side with his VP choice.

I'm really not going to go all Huntsman.
Ever.

Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at January 10, 2012 04:25 PM (vWrND)

463 The whole Granite state establishment's on the stage...surprised Mittley only got 36% with all of those heavy hitters in his corners.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 04:25 PM (V6fqC)

464
Ann is speaking with the Willardprompter.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 10, 2012 04:25 PM (TkGkA)

465 And my 12th generation Southern Baptist self will vote for him. Anyone who doesn't will be in fact supporting Barak Obama's re election.

True dat and I'll even stop with the underwear and stone references.

Well I can promise I won't not vote for him because of his religion but that is the best I can do.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:25 PM (0q2P7)

466 Quote of the night from Carl Cameron "[H]e (romney) is trying to make it appear in a subtext as though he is unbeatable by the sheer strength of the PooBahs backing him..."

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at January 10, 2012 04:25 PM (zgwWv)

467 Romney will be speaking as soon as he finishes his order for "Office of the President Elect" placards.

Posted by: Jimmah at January 10, 2012 04:26 PM (TMeYE)

468 >>Huntsman just told Chuck Todd.. he is staying in!

Good luck getting votes that way. What's he gonna do send out Chinese greeting cards?

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 04:26 PM (HBqDo)

469 (Sorry, had to make that crack... )
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 08:24 PM (niZvt)

You're fired.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at January 10, 2012 04:26 PM (ad7NF)

470 If Mitt repeats his Iowa speech, I'm going to barf.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:27 PM (epBek)

471

Just watching Ann Romney introduce Mitt.

She certainly has a First Ladyish vibe going on.  Certainly much better than that Joker-mouth Callista.

Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 04:27 PM (FdndL)

472 321 @309: Rubio is great and may well be POTUS one day, but it's too soon for him now. Too young and inexperienced.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 07:50 PM (niZvt)

-------------------

Sold!

-the left

Posted by: Shiggz at January 10, 2012 04:27 PM (RfvTE)

473 Do the Romney's have all boys?

Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 04:27 PM (X6akg)

474

"I have NO IDEA what the hell McCain was trying to do."

McCain is an admitted Progressive who admires Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wislon. Trust me...McCain was quite pleased with an Obama Presidency.

Please note: the McCain endorsement for Romney should make everyones ears perk up........it is not a good thing!

Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 04:27 PM (JMsOK)

475 Another basic problem with McCain that Romney doesn't suffer from: he doesn't give off that demented old man vibe. I always wondered when McCain was going to go berserk and start launching nukes because of a migraine headache or he saw an Ultimate Fighting Championship and figured that civilization was being destroyed.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:27 PM (r4wIV)

476 416 So the evil capitalist won. Now it time for the tea party to go all anti-capitalist anti-rich for some reason.

Strange days, no?

Posted by: holygoat at January 10, 2012 04:27 PM (2ptZ1)

477 Oh wait, I meant Mitt might not even reach HIS OWN 2008 vote total tonight

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 04:28 PM (40rE+)

478 I'm alway amazed at Huntsman's crisp, pressed shirt collars.


Posted by: David Brooks at January 10, 2012 04:28 PM (vWrND)

479 If people like Romney's look, let's just vote for Pat Riley. He may be more conservative?

Posted by: Doc at January 10, 2012 04:28 PM (/h3en)

480 I predict Jen Rubin will be eating puddin before the night is over.

Posted by: swamper at January 10, 2012 04:28 PM (D6Aty)

481 OT MexicoÂ’s government allowed a group of undercover U.S. anti-drug agents and their Colombian informant to launder millions in cash for a powerful Mexican drug trafficker and his Colombian cocaine supplier, according to documents made public Monday.

Posted by: sTevo at January 10, 2012 04:28 PM (VMcEw)

482

It has become obvious that McCain never really wanted to win in 2008.....it's almost as if it was a vanity play.

Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 04:29 PM (JMsOK)

483 Posted by: Doc at January 10, 2012 08:15 PM (/h3en)

there were a lot of facebook messages saying "I'm voting for President Obama but today I'm going on the hunt for huntsman".

I'm beginning to understand what they mean.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:29 PM (oZfic)

484 anyone else getting an Osmond Family Vibe right now?

Posted by: DebinIowa at January 10, 2012 04:29 PM (O27mS)

485 demented old man vibe.
-------------------
Never felt it. Mitt's plasticyness is bad though.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 04:29 PM (40rE+)

486 Could you imagine if Buddy Roemer wins more votes than Rick Perry tonight?

Posted by: The Q at January 10, 2012 04:29 PM (LnQhT)

487 So the evil capitalist won. Now it time for the tea party to go all anti-capitalist anti-rich for some reason.

I think there are plenty of reasons for Tea Party folks to dislike Romney's politics that have nothing to do with capitalism. Its just as much as he annoys us, he's still better than 4 more years of President Obama who doesn't have to worry about reelection.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:29 PM (r4wIV)

488 Conservatives for Marxist-Leninism!

Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at January 10, 2012 04:29 PM (vWrND)

489 I support either: Brokered Convention or 4 more years of Obama to finally force the populace to stop stepping on its dick and push for actual conservative candidates who aren't fuckhole fuckheaded fat fucknozzles like this current pool of candidates we got.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks' Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at January 10, 2012 04:30 PM (JW97y)

490

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual

Billy Bob,

the Jesus I believe in is the God who was born of Mary, crucified for the sins of mankind, resurrected on the third day, and ascended to heaven to sit at the right hand of the Father.  If you or the Catholic church thinks I'm lying, I honestly don't care.  Go peddle that stuff to a more interested or more credulous audience.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:30 PM (epBek)

491 there were a lot of facebook messages saying "I'm voting for President Obama but today I'm going on the hunt for huntsman".

I'm beginning to understand what they mean.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 08:29 PM (oZfic)

Delusional!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 10, 2012 04:30 PM (TkGkA)

492 Please people....do not start blowing Romney. That would be rubbing it in our face, and exposing what a fool you are.

Posted by: Cheese Wheel McBeal at January 10, 2012 04:30 PM (JMsOK)

493 Pretty bland speech so far, but not actually terrible.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:30 PM (epBek)

494 541 Could you imagine if Buddy Roemer wins more votes than Rick Perry tonight?

Jesus, even I managed to beat that guy.

Posted by: David Duke at January 10, 2012 04:30 PM (ad7NF)

495 Is NH a closed primary? Is SC?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:30 PM (piMMO)

496 Nice shot at Gingrich.  Niiice.  I'm not a big Romney guy, but this part of his speech is playing well with me, got to admit.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:31 PM (epBek)

497 551 Is NH a closed primary? Is SC? -- Both are Open Primaries

Posted by: Doc at January 10, 2012 04:31 PM (/h3en)

498 I think I've accepted Mitt. Shoot me now.

Posted by: lauren at January 10, 2012 04:32 PM (vqdNY)

499

This is live TV.  Do you think Newt might run in yelling “Turn those machines back on!   I should have won!”

Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 04:32 PM (FdndL)

500 Please note: the McCain endorsement for Romney should make everyones ears perk up........it is not a good thing If I was Mitt, I'd greet it with the same enthusiasm as I would finding a strage new rash on Mrs. romney's vajajay... Mitt just slammed the hell out of Newt and Perry's OWS outbursts... GOOD.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:32 PM (niZvt)

501 Both Savage and Lindbaugh were questioning the newts motives today.  Savage apparently said three weeks ago that the newt was in it and working for the dems and apparently he's been saying it ever since.  Guess lindbaugh finally caught up.

But that is such a serious charge for Savage to make.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:32 PM (oZfic)

502

"Why Catholics do not believe Mormons are Christians."

Well, many Protestants have major issues with Catholics.

I'll let Willard worry about his relationship with Christ at the final Judgement. I'm more concerned about him, if elected, having the guts to make the cuts in Government that Perry would have done. Reform the f'n tax code, nuke two or three cabinet positions and organizations. Really reform Social Security and Medicare. Cut spending big time.

He can govern in the middle if elected. And get primaried big in 2016. Or he can actually try to do the things we need to happen.

It's up to Willard. If he is the nominee.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:32 PM (wfbQL)

503 Did Gingrich spend his 1.6 million from Fannie Mae at Carl's Junior?

Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at January 10, 2012 04:32 PM (vWrND)

504 a Pollster directed me to a nearby hillside where lay buried a book written on gold plates containing the results of the 2012 Republican Primary Elections.

My Sacred Honor compels me to inform you that with the support of Nickie Haley and the other PooBahs Mitt will win the SC primary next.

Posted by: Joseph Smith Jr at January 10, 2012 04:33 PM (zgwWv)

505 Who could Romney pick as a running mate who would lessen the hate and improve his chances further?

Let me guess... Rubio?

And Ace, I'm waiting for you to mention the Rubio v Rand showdown on the vote re Georgia's admission to NATO. I'm just surprised you haven't.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:33 PM (piMMO)

506 Rick will make a solid run in south carolina it want be over tonight.

Posted by: swamper at January 10, 2012 04:33 PM (D6Aty)

507 Please not 'America the Beautiful' again, Willard.  You creep it up too much.

Posted by: Clarence at January 10, 2012 04:33 PM (z0HdK)

508 a Pollster directed me to a nearby hillside where lay buried a book written on gold plates containing the results of the 2012 Republican Primary Elections.

It wasn't Frank Luntz, was it?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:33 PM (piMMO)

509 Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual:
I find it hard to believe that Mormons consider themselves Christians.

I find it hard to believe that you're actually debating religion here.

Can I pay you both to shut up?

Posted by: sandy burger at January 10, 2012 04:33 PM (0U+Pz)

510 Cut, cap, and balance.

Posted by: The Q at January 10, 2012 04:33 PM (LnQhT)

511 554 I think I've accepted Mitt. Shoot me now.

Posted by: lauren at January 10, 2012 08:32 PM (vqdNY)

If the alternative is a Huntsman surge, color me RINO.

Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (vWrND)

512

Did Mitt's speechwriter just learn about alliteration?

Ooh, nice steal of Perry's Cut, Cap, and Balance slogan.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (epBek)

513 Good speech by Romney.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (QcFbt)

514 Rick will make a solid run in south carolina it want be over tonight.

Which Rick?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (piMMO)

515 Ah the more educated than everyone founder of zero hedge cat piss unvaccinated troll is here!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (YU6SV)

516 "I'll repeal Obamacare."

Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (X6akg)

517 The Only Defender of Capitalism in America in this race is... Mitt Romney. By their own words, will you know them.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (niZvt)

518 I'm with Luther, who supposedly said he'd rather be ruled by a wise Turk than a foolish Christian. If you can do the job well and have wise policies I don't care if you worship Satan. I can't imagine how your policies would be wise in that case, but you know.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (r4wIV)

519 We're going to have a Mormon president? Well, that's just great. They make their bundt cake with the blood of Catholic children, you know.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (vzFJV)

520 Romney is talking about putting free enterprise on trial but he isnt actually defending himself from Bain attacks is he? Cause it isnt an unserious liability.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (40rE+)

521 there were a lot of facebook messages saying "I'm voting for President Obama but today I'm going on the hunt for huntsman".

Oh bless their heart. The best they can hope to accomplish with that is a non-majority going to convention, which would mean brokered, which means one of two things

1. Romney
2. Someone who didn't run and doesn't have any negativity attached to them. (No not Sarah, get it out of your head, it will never happen, the establishment would rather walk over broken glass then eat the glass than do that)

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (0q2P7)

522 If the alternative is a Huntsman surge, color me RINO.

  Me three!

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (qmF3d)

523 Romney thinks that George HW Bush was too conservative. By the time he's done with us we'll be wishing we had McCain.

Posted by: Chris at January 10, 2012 04:35 PM (XGZYX)

524 I wanted Teh Fred last time.
I wanted Perry this time.

But I was ok with McCain in the end. I'm ok with Romney now.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 04:35 PM (QcFbt)

525 But that is such a serious charge for Savage to make.

Really? Is that the first time you ever listened to Savage??

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:35 PM (piMMO)

526 Please not 'America the Beautiful' again, Willard.  You creep it up too much.

Posted by: Clarence

+1 million

 

Can I pay you both to shut up?

Posted by: sandy burger

Well, sure.  Sorry.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:35 PM (epBek)

527 There wont be a brokered convention. If Paul was in the lead, there might be a chance, maybe even if Newt was leading, but the party elite are FOR Mitt & hes leading. There wont be a brokered convention.

Posted by: Jimmah at January 10, 2012 04:35 PM (TMeYE)

528

"that is such a serious charge for Savage to make."

Savage is more right than wrong usually. Although, there is a certain conspriacy Ron Paul vibe in the Savage world, which is weird. Newt working with Dems?....Possible, but unlikely, I think Newt is just really pissed off right now, and is throwing stuff up against the wall in desperation.

Posted by: Cheese Wheel McBeal at January 10, 2012 04:35 PM (JMsOK)

529 571 Ah the more educated than everyone founder of zero hedge cat piss unvaccinated troll is here!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 10, 2012 08:34 PM (YU6SV)

You do realize you sound like a fool, right?

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (oZfic)

530 I wanted Teh Fred last time.
I wanted Perry this time.

But I was ok with McCain in the end. I'm ok with Romney now.

ditto
ditto
ditto...kind of
ditto

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (piMMO)

531 They make their bundt cake with the blood of Catholic children, you know.

I thought that was the sinister Joo. Maybe Ba'Hai?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (r4wIV)

532 "I will ALWAYS stand with our friends! I will never apologize for the greatest nation on Earth!" God, when will the American President say that???

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (niZvt)

533 Everything that guy just said is BULLSHIT!

Posted by: My Cousin Newty at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (ad7NF)

534 They do need have the buck-toothed son behind Mitt keep his mouth shut.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (QcFbt)

535 if Romney actually does cut/cap/balance the budget, that would be a resounding sucess no matter what else happens

Posted by: Jose at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (srIqv)

536 575 We're going to have a Mormon president? Well, that's just great.

They make their bundt cake with the blood of Catholic children, you know.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2012 08:34 PM (vzFJV)

Gee..I didn't know you could make matzahs from bundt cake.

Not Kosher L'Pesach, you know..

Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (vWrND)

537 I don'tk Mitt picks th VA governor I dnt think he's interested Virginia won't go for Obama again. Anywa.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (yCS09)

538 I think I've accepted Mitt. Shoot me now.

Posted by: lauren at January 10, 2012 08:32 PM (vqdNY)

I think you've accepted ABO. Let's not start shooting ourselves yet, lauren.

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 04:37 PM (qKEux)

539 They make their bundt cake with the blood of Catholic children, you know.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff

Organic Catholic children.  Only bigots say we use the factory-farmed kind.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:37 PM (epBek)

540 Mitt didnt win really big! woohooo!

Posted by: soothie at January 10, 2012 04:37 PM (vyPsz)

541 I've never been able to get on board with Mormonism. Founder of the Mormon religion L Ron Hubbard was too cruel to the slaves that built the pyramids upon which they engaged in human sacrifice. I also don't believe that the Mormon calendar was correct when it predicted the world would end in 2012. Furthermore, I like beef too much to hold cows as sacred like Mormons do. Besides, the Mormon God Zeus kinda comes across as a jerk.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 10, 2012 04:37 PM (X3vSL)

542 God, when will the American President say that???

A year from next Friday.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 04:37 PM (ad7NF)

543 I predict Rombley first and then Gingrotts Bank.

Posted by: Diane Sawyer, totally sober, I swair, I mean swear! at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (B2SPW)

544 I really don't like Romney but that was an excellent speech.  He hit all the points he needed to hit.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (oZfic)

545 Never apologize. 

Posted by: David at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (5ANyb)

546 I'm delighted to see that the two capitalism supporters are garnering a strong majority of Republican votes in NH. 

I have always declared my intention to vote for the nominee, but I must now revise that.  I cannot vote for Gingrich under any circumstances - unless it's an election to offer someone as a human sacrifice to alien invaders or something, in which case the jerk tops my list.  We already have a socialist party, asshole.

Huntsman and Perry are on shaky ground, too, and Santorum is walking the line.  There is plenty to criticize Romney over - the worst, which no one mentions, is his affinity for the green boondoggles which cost us energy, money, and progress for no significant benefit at all.  Of course, Newt has always been even more in the bag for green scams, but he's such a lying hypocritical scumbag that he might as well.

But if you are too stupid to understand the basics of capitalism, you are too stupid to be President.  We've already got one of those.

Posted by: Adjoran at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (VfmLu)

547 Newt ran a really really smart campaign and if I was him I'd work with Perry next time out to help him campaign and organize better. Newt's a better behind-the-scenes guy who makes speeches on policies rather than a up front leader guy, I think. Nobody cares if one of your advisers is a moral reprobate confused guy who changes sides.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (r4wIV)

548 I think i'm going to support this smarmy automaton.  Oh, well. 

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (epBek)

549

You see how he takes a whole bunch of words, strings them together and makes sentences?

Wow.

Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (FdndL)

550 575 We're going to have a Mormon president? Well, that's just great. They make their bundt cake with the blood of Catholic children, you know. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2012 08:34 PM (vzFJV) MMMMMMM!!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (niZvt)

551 That was a good spech

Posted by: robtr at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (MtwBb)

552 Oh, my god, I feel the dark power of the Mitt pulling at me . . .

Save Me Obi-won Ke- . . .

Aw, fuckit . . .

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (smvTK)

553 Pretty damn good NH victory speech.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (YeIP1)

554 Romney should campaign on having manly sperm.
5 sons vs Obama's gay-ass girl-only sperm.

If we were India or China the election would be over based on that alone.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (QcFbt)

555 Oh goody....McCain on Fox.

Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (X6akg)

556 Better speech this time by Mittens. His IA speech sucked. Power of the prompter I guess. Question is does he believe what he read?

Posted by: Doc at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (/h3en)

557 ""McCain was running on a combination of inevitability mixed with his apparently almost religious fear of badmouthing or hurting fellow Senators. He seems to hold fellow Senators in an almost terrified awe, unwilling to do anything that might upset them or contradict them in any way.""



I call it programing, something had to happen to him when he was a POW. He's practically a mole, lead the charge, get within striking distance of your objective, then turn your gun on your own troops. He does it every fucking time.

Posted by: Berserker at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (FMbng)

558

Who was the blond in the black dress?

Just, uhm, curious.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (epBek)

559 518 "You have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency".

Hey, maybe it's a good thing that a man that could be that dead wrong about something didn't make it to the White House.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at January 10, 2012 08:25 PM (vbh31)

Sure, except we got the JEF, who's been dead wrong about everything.  Our Present President had to deliberate for 16 hours about whether or not to send our pipe-hitters in to whack Osama.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (lJJMb)

560 You hear me talkin', SCOAMF?

I ain't through with you by a damn sight.

I'ma get Bain Capital on your ass.


Posted by: Marcellus Wallace (Romney SPeech writer) at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (zgwWv)

561 591 They do need have the buck-toothed son behind Mitt keep his mouth shut.

Er, yeah. They can't afford braces?

Posted by: jeanne! at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (bEnlY)

562 Romney's a Morman, so what? Kennedy was a Catholic - we didn't all have to convert. Bush was a Methodist, no edicts were issued. I'm much more concerned about his squishy RINO tendencies. It's time to focus on what may or may not vault or impede him into defeating the worst excuse for an American in political history. Even at that, a wisely-elected Congress can neutralize the RINOness. We've got to get the Marxists out of the WH...first order of biznezz.

Posted by: marybel at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (TDe/C)

563 It is unavoidable.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (ad7NF)

564 Oh no, McCain on FNC... Fox News really does want Obama to stay in power, don't it?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (niZvt)

565 >>I think I've accepted Mitt. Shoot me now.
Posted by: lauren at January 10, 2012 08:32 PM (vqdNY)

I'm hanging onto my ammo for now, so you're going to have to wait.

However I do have this list. But it's at 1140, so right now I'd have to say it's going to be close, and I don't even dislike you.

You may want to line up an alternate plan.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (HBqDo)

566 Whoever wins this nomination - I'm going to crawl over glass and under barbed wire if I have to - to make sure the current occupant of the White House starts packing in November. 

That is all.

Posted by: Mike at January 10, 2012 04:40 PM (ptP00)

567 The primaries are moving out of the stupid states now.

ROFLMAO

Posted by: Bob Undead Saget at January 10, 2012 04:40 PM (dBvlk)

568

" I cannot vote for Gingrich under any circumstances "

I can safely say you will not have to vote for Gingrich in the general election.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:40 PM (wfbQL)

569 Savage is more right than wrong usually. Although, there is a certain conspriacy Ron Paul vibe in the Savage world, which is weird. Newt working with Dems?....Possible, but unlikely, I think Newt is just really pissed off right now, and is throwing stuff us up against the wall in desperation. fify

Our local talk radio station kicked Savage out, moved Clark Howard from his 1800-2100 slot and into Savage's and replaced Howard with Andy Dean.

What a fucking puss.

He's like an equally whiny but less convincing Hannity. And, he got in his little jabs last week about how Perry is so dumb "he can't even tie his own shoes".

Just who the fuck do people such as he think they are?!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:40 PM (piMMO)

570 But if you are too stupid to understand the basics of capitalism, you are too stupid to be President. We've already got one of those.

Amen to that. And he surrounded himself with ivory tower leftist academic intellectual types full of theories and no real world comprehension. Reset button my ass.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:40 PM (r4wIV)

571 It doesn't make any of you all bad people, it just means you are NOT Christians, sorry. Posted by: Billy Bob

What right allows you to make that determination of another person? I'm not asking about the opinion of whether or not Mormons are Christians, but how you believe you have the right to make that determination for others.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2012 04:40 PM (jcnm8)

572 but the party elite are FOR Mitt & hes leading. There wont be a brokered convention.

If he fails to secure a majority of pledged electoral votes, and they (the unpledged) have any sanity, they will think very seriously about forcing someone on the party who couldn't get enough support to win outright two times in a row. If it goes that far the discord would make it easier to unify the party behind someone who didn't run.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:41 PM (0q2P7)

573
@594

Obama won Virgina by almost a quarter of a million votes.  Might be a bit early to be putting it into Landslide Mitt's Column.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 10, 2012 04:41 PM (3wBRE)

574 613 Oh goody....McCain on Fox.

Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 08:38 PM (X6akg)

Is there cleavage?

Posted by: Peeper at January 10, 2012 04:41 PM (tCDfu)

575

So its Mitt, eh? Unlike McCain, Mitt actually WANTS to win, so at least we have that.

hold me

Posted by: Max Power is the Dunning–Kruger effect made flesh at January 10, 2012 04:41 PM (q177U)

576

" Bush was a Methodist, no edicts were issued."

Methodists are socially moderate heading liberal at a fast pace. They are now endorsing gay marriage.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:42 PM (wfbQL)

577 Remember when I picked the Dem Wave of 2010? I really am plugged in to all the insiders.

That's why I'm a Bachmann booster.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 08:41 PM (oZfic) at January 10, 2012 04:42 PM (B2SPW)

578 ""Whoever wins this nomination - I'm going to crawl over glass and under barbed wire if I have to - to make sure the current occupant of the White House starts packing in November.""


This. A fucking axe murder deserves to be in the white house more than this fucking closet muslim ,American hating , marxist cockholster.

Posted by: Berserker at January 10, 2012 04:42 PM (FMbng)

579 @632: not THAT McCain, moon! Though his head sort of resembles Mehgan's left puppy...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:42 PM (niZvt)

580 What right allows you to make that determination of another person?

Person, you can't. Only God can tell that. A group or organized religion however, you can. Religions get to decide who gets in and who doesn't, and if someone else comes along says "we've got a new book and you're all wrong, but we're still one of you." they're not.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:43 PM (r4wIV)

581 New goddamm thread please

Posted by: soothie at January 10, 2012 04:43 PM (vzLhi)

582

"Fox News really does want Obama to stay in power, don't it?"

Of Course..........It is a business, is it not? If the Congress becomes Republican majority in the House and Senate with a Republican President, Fox will resemble MSNBC by this time in 2013.

Posted by: Cheese Wheel McBeal at January 10, 2012 04:43 PM (JMsOK)

583 641 New goddamm thread please

Posted by: soothie at January 10, 2012 08:43 PM (vzLhi)

Probably titled "Aw, fuckit, it's gonna be Romney?"

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 04:43 PM (smvTK)

584 McCain cared more about his family legacy as Naval hero statesmen than winning the presidency. He, rightly, believed attacking Obama meant the media would attack him as a racist. He wasn't willing to risk that.

The McCains are now, what, at least 4th generation Navy studs.

McCain sacrificed the country to protect his family's name. He was happy to lose gracefully.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 04:43 PM (QcFbt)

585

Billy Bob,

Mormons don't believe that seerstones have anything to do with salvation either.  Don't know where you are getting that from.  That's like saying that rectilinear instruments of torture constructed from natural materials are what Catholics believe saves them. 

This isn't the place for it, but if you want to debate this more, go the Junior Ganymede blog where I blog or the Mormon Dialogue forum

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:43 PM (epBek)

586

You see how he takes a whole bunch of words, strings them together and makes sentences?

Can you do something about your font settings?

Posted by: Max Power is the Dunning–Kruger effect made flesh at January 10, 2012 04:44 PM (q177U)

587 Enough of this Huckabee Anti-Mormon shit

New thread, please!

Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at January 10, 2012 04:44 PM (vWrND)

588 Wow, Gingrich made a big SC ad buy. Florida too. I hope those primaries are better, meaning Mittens loses. I know it was a victory speech but tomorrow shouldnt he defend Bain attacks? Gingrich didnt defend and look what happened.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 04:44 PM (40rE+)

589 Methodists are socially moderate heading liberal at a fast pace. They are now endorsing gay marriage.

Yeah it was groups like Methodists who pushed for the welfare state and prohibition; well meaning but using the government to try to establish moral behavior and good deeds, by force if necessary. Not all Methodists, mind you, but the Bush sort definitely.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:44 PM (r4wIV)

590 >>"I'll repeal Obamacare."
Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 08:34 PM (X6akg)

He said that?

I could go with that.

We may need it in writing though.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 04:44 PM (HBqDo)

591 So I'm watching "The Firm" pilot on Hulu right now. I always thought Pawlenty made a mistake dropping out of the primaries so quick, but he's doing a pretty good job playing the protagonist Mitch McDeere so far.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 10, 2012 04:45 PM (GZitp)

592 Dick I'm well aware of Methodists' liberalism, and I'm not sorry I left the denomination. I don't really think you missed my point, but I will say: one man's religious choice cannot steer the country out of control. Before someone cites me a hypocrite for condemning Islam, I will communicate my opinion that Islam is a cult, not a valid religion.

Posted by: marybel at January 10, 2012 04:46 PM (TDe/C)

593 648 Wow, Gingrich made a big SC ad buy. Florida too. I hope those primaries are better, meaning Mittens loses. I know it was a victory speech but tomorrow shouldnt he defend Bain attacks? Gingrich didnt defend and look what happened.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 08:44 PM (40rE+)

In politics, if you're defending, you're losing.  Attack.  Always attack.  When you get attacked, counterattack, don't defend.  Defense is for losers.

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 04:46 PM (smvTK)

594 What right allows you to make that determination

eh. don't take it personal. I had a baptist say that to me once. And I'm Catholic. I mean really? Catholics aren't Christian? Really? The folks who (by vote of the bishops I might add) came up with the theology of the Divine Christ and wrote the original tenets of faith aren't Christian? You can't take the self righteous seriously about such things.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:46 PM (0q2P7)

595

" Not all Methodists, mind you, but the Bush sort definitely."

Now the United Methodist Church.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:46 PM (GBxvs)

596 Each to his own, but accepting only part of the Christian faith is not what the Christian Church says you can do. Protestants don't agree with Catholics on a lot of stuff, but we all agree there is only one way to salvation and it has nothing to do with seer stones. We have those. The priest pulls them out of the golden drum and reads aloud what is inscribed upon them. If they match the inscriptions on your tablet, you get a Bingo.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2012 04:46 PM (ac6ny)

597

He said that?

I could go with that.

We may need it in writing though.

Posted by: ontherocks

It's been part of his stump speech for awhile.  Obamacare doesn't poll real well.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:46 PM (epBek)

598

He said that?

I could go with that.

We may need it in writing though.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 08:44 PM (HBqDo)

In the blood of his first born.

Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 04:46 PM (X6akg)

599 Our local talk radio station kicked Savage out, moved Clark Howard from his 1800-2100 slot and into Savage's and replaced Howard with Andy Dean.

Your station dumped that douchebag Andy Dean on you too?  Mine ran Dennis Miller in the evening for years and just booted him for Dean.  Miller had a fun, easygoing show that I'd come to really enjoy, now instead I get this smug kid barely out of his twenties who's advertised by radio spots in which he declares he's the Mozart of monologues.  I've never even heard of this prick before.

Yeah I know, streaming....

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 04:47 PM (ad7NF)

600

This:

This. A fucking axe murder deserves to be in the white house more than this fucking closet muslim ,American hating , marxist cockholster.

Posted by: marybel at January 10, 2012 04:47 PM (TDe/C)

601 romney/christie?  romney/paul?  romney/bachman?  romney/palin?
they've been throwing those out at the bar tonight.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:47 PM (oZfic)

602 Fuck this Mittens BS......I'm gonna go listen to Levin's show.

Posted by: Okie Tea Partierer at January 10, 2012 04:47 PM (Qzb90)

603 He said that?

He's been saying it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:48 PM (piMMO)

604 Romney-Paul 2012. GOP's in good shape.

Posted by: Greg at January 10, 2012 04:48 PM (NNW3K)

Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 04:48 PM (d6QMz)

606 Dude, what's with the Mormon debate in here? Did Chriss-Toff hack all your computers?

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 10, 2012 04:48 PM (QQAJP)

607 Obama's only getting 81% of the vote. (CNN just showed it for mere seconds and realized they shouldn't have.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:48 PM (oZfic)

608 I said it would be over by Christmas. I was wrong. But not by much.

Posted by: soothie at January 10, 2012 04:48 PM (oB2II)

609 romney/christie?  romney/paul?  romney/bachman?  romney/palin?
they've been throwing those out at the bar tonight.

Sure, but not Ron, Rand... Rand is the good one.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:48 PM (piMMO)

610

Yeah it was groups like Methodists who pushed for the welfare state and prohibition; well meaning but using the government to try to establish moral behavior and good deeds, by force if necessary. Not all Methodists, mind you, but the Bush sort definitely.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 08:44 PM (r4wIV)

The UM website is pushing for a Palestinian state within the borders of Israel.

I haven't been to church in a while.

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 04:49 PM (qKEux)

611 I never liked Savage's show because it was too much red meat and him yelling something really outrageous like "Liberals eat the unborn babies they abort! Call in and discuss!" (play heavy metal bumper) Commercial.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:49 PM (r4wIV)

612 Why is there all this doom and gloom this thread. We knew
1. Romney would win.
2. Perry didn't even campaign for NH.

There is nothing here suggesting things are any different than they were last week after Iowa.

I personally am holding out for Florida. If whomever is going to make a move is going to make a move they had better do it by then.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:49 PM (0q2P7)

613 Romney/Perry, I heard today. Kind of an odd thought, but could be, well, interesting. Unite big swaths o'the country. And Perry vs Slojo would be amusing in VP debates.

Posted by: Lizabth at January 10, 2012 04:49 PM (JZBti)

614 667 Dude, what's with the Mormon debate in here? Did Chriss-Toff hack all your computers?
Aways up stream, Chris Taylor suddenly launched into a riff about how the Mormon church was super controlling but not to worry because Romney was just in it for himself, and it went downhill from there.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:49 PM (epBek)

615

"Romney-Paul 2012"

Yeah sure buddy....that's probably the only way Obam would win reeelction.

Posted by: Cheese Wheel McBeal at January 10, 2012 04:50 PM (JMsOK)

616 666 Exit poll data < yeah, you got the magic number with that post. Unsurprising somehow

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 10, 2012 04:50 PM (QQAJP)

617 663 Fuck this Mittens BS......I'm gonna go listen to Levin's show. Posted by: Okie Tea Partierer at January 10, 2012 08:47 PM (Qzb90) Make sure you wear hearing protection!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:50 PM (niZvt)

618 I'd like it if President Romney could just eliminate the Government Health Insurance Takeover Act, but he's not the king of congress, so he lacks the power to simply overrule it. He might, if pressured enough by voters, sign a bill wiping it out though.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:50 PM (r4wIV)

619 Let me throw out every combination imaginable, and then pretend I'm a genius predictor. Everyone at the bar says so!

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 08:51 PM (oZfic) at January 10, 2012 04:50 PM (B2SPW)

620 The only issue now is how to prevent Paul from running 3rd party and throwing the election to Obama.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 08:12 PM (QcFbt)

Romney/Paul 2012

Yeah. That'll fix 'em.

Posted by: antisocialist at January 10, 2012 04:51 PM (j/nZn)

621 651 So I'm watching "The Firm" pilot on Hulu right now. I always thought Pawlenty made a mistake dropping out of the primaries so quick, but he's doing a pretty good job playing the protagonist Mitch McDeere so far.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 10, 2012 08:45 PM (GZitp)

That's not Tim Pawlenty, dude.  It's Brian Dennehy.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 10, 2012 04:51 PM (lJJMb)

622

" Before someone cites me a hypocrite for condemning Islam, I will communicate my opinion that Islam is a cult, not a valid religion. "

 

I can agree with this statement 100%

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:51 PM (GBxvs)

623

>>In the blood of his first born.

Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 08:46 PM (X6akg)

That would convince me that he was serious, but I don't think that would play well with The Right to Lifers.

I hate being such a political animal, but there it is.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 04:51 PM (HBqDo)

624 If Bain capital is supposedly a liability how come Obama taking pictures with Corzine, a fucking criminal, and having his house bought by Tony Rezko, did not harm him?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 10, 2012 04:51 PM (sb3kT)

625 666 Exit poll data

Where's your :SINISTER: ?
Anyway interesting, men break strongly toward Paul, Women toward Santorum, that is very very interesting.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:51 PM (0q2P7)

626 Yeah I know, streaming....

After a day full of Boortz, Rush, and Hannity a talkie like Miller, or John Gibson,  or even Levin would have been welcome. Although I admit that I don't listen to any of them as much as I used to, especially Boortz.

I'm buying an I-Phone next month and downloading the Sirius app. Goodbye local talk radio.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:52 PM (piMMO)

627

This:

This. A fucking axe murder deserves to be in the white house more than this fucking closet muslim ,American hating , marxist cockholster.

This? This.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 10, 2012 04:52 PM (PddVe)

628 They interrupted my NCIS FOR THIS SHIT! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at January 10, 2012 04:52 PM (ijjAe)

629 Yeesh. What went wrong with Perry? They've counted over 50,000 votes and he only has 399?

Posted by: Jordan at January 10, 2012 04:52 PM (RSG1I)

630 I don't think Ron Paul has any real interest in being president, I think he wants to get his ideas out there so he runs each time. So no, I don't buy a 3rd party run for him.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:52 PM (r4wIV)

631

Mr. Pink at January 10, 2012 08:51 PM

It's racist to bring up those things.

That's how it didn't hurt him.

Ask the MSM

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:53 PM (GBxvs)

632 Are they smoking crack at CNN?  They just called Santorum a populist????

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:53 PM (oZfic)

633 how come Obama taking pictures with Corzine, a fucking criminal, and having his house bought by Tony Rezko, did not harm him?

Because f*** you, that's why.

(This post was censored at Tipper Gore's request.)

Posted by: MSM at January 10, 2012 04:54 PM (HfydS)

634 They interrupted my NCIS FOR THIS SHIT! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at January 10, 2012 08:52 PM (ijjAe)

I was thinking the same thing...

Posted by: antisocialist at January 10, 2012 04:54 PM (j/nZn)

635 Like it or not (and I don't), it is Mitt. We need to get behind him. But he needs to bring the sh!t hammer to Barry in the general! Fairly decent speech so far...

Posted by: Pat McGroin at January 10, 2012 04:54 PM (bnTY4)

636 "Fox News really does want Obama to stay in power, don't it?"


Remember, Rupert get the big bucks no matter who wins.  (That's why it's so silly for lefties to act like it's subversive.)  It's why the channel can put up brain-dead cheerleaders who won't tell Republican voters what they need to hear.

For example, Michelle "Jenny Mc" Malkin is already starting with her HEEELARIOUS nose plugs crap.  Because she's a giant baby who thinks we can just demand tribute to the conservative god. 

Posted by: Anony at January 10, 2012 04:54 PM (Yigvc)

637 Great, so is Romney now going to get some actual scrutiny?

Posted by: Chris at January 10, 2012 04:54 PM (XGZYX)

638

In politics, if you're defending, you're losing.  Attack.  Always attack.  When you get attacked, counterattack, don't defend.  Defense is for losers.

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 08:46 PM (smvTK)

I would say a good press conference/good defense would be really good. McCain did it with some scandal in January 2008

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 04:54 PM (40rE+)

639 I don't know what "populist" means, but I'll pretend to be surprised and shocked!

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 08:54 PM (oZfic) at January 10, 2012 04:55 PM (B2SPW)

640 I personally am holding out for Florida. If whomever is going to make a move is going to make a move they had better do it by then.

Unless the Dems registered as Republican, at least they won't be able to vote for Paul.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:55 PM (piMMO)

641 Great, so is Romney now going to get some actual scrutiny?

Right, because nobody ever looked into his background before. He is a real mystery man that Mitt.

Posted by: Ken Royall at January 10, 2012 04:55 PM (umam+)

642 I'll happily vote for Romney over Obama. I still won't believe Mormonism is Christian, though.

Mormonism is to Christianity as Christianity is to Judaism. It's related, but a whole new ball of wax.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 04:56 PM (QcFbt)

643 " Before someone cites me a hypocrite for condemning Islam, I will communicate my opinion that Islam is a cult, not a valid religion. "

A lot of religions start out that way.

The only reason I can think of to say "Islam is not a valid religion", is that I hold it to be provably false. Namely, I hold the Qur'an as a forgery (in God's name) by humans, in response to human concerns and quoting human documents. I'd say I could prove it, except that Yehuda Nevo did that already (to sura 48, in "Crossroads to Islam"). As goes that sura, so goes "The Qur'an" as a unitary document. Inductive reasoning, bitchez!

But then, I apply the same reasoning to Creationism and to Biblical literalism, as well. So that's not an argument likely to be accepted in conservative circles.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 10, 2012 04:56 PM (QQAJP)

644 Oh, and by the way...HELL YEAH, ZIVA!!!

Posted by: antisocialist at January 10, 2012 04:56 PM (j/nZn)

645 Well perry did say he was going to ignore New Hampshire so New Hampshire seems to have ignored him right back.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:56 PM (oZfic)

646 Oh the Facebook stalking cat piss troll is stinking up the thread

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 10, 2012 04:56 PM (YU6SV)

647 It is not I that judge, it is God.  It's not personal, it doctrine.  You know it's in that book, what's it called?  Oh yeah, the Bible, not the Book of Mormon.
Posted by: Billy Bob

You are judging when you declare Mormons not Christians. Sorry, this isn't Metaphysical Burger King. You can't in fact have it both ways.

Again, by what right do you have to be able to declare others Christian or not?

I'm not familiar with the theological basis for doing so. Are you appropriating things that do not belong to you?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2012 04:56 PM (jcnm8)

648

So you don't believe in the Book of Mormon, written with the seer stones?  Baptism of the dead? 
Posted by:
Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual

This isn't the place for it, but if you want to debate this more, go the Junior Ganymede blog where I blog or the Mormon Dialogue forum.  I'll even put a link to a post here, if you feel some special call to evangelize the Morons on the evils of Mormonism.

 

--

Edit:  OK, here's a link for any Morons who want to debate Mormonism for some reason.  To all the sane ones, sorry we've cluttered up this thread.

 

http://tinyurl.com/7jkdy8x

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:56 PM (epBek)

649 I swear, if no one acknowledges my babbling incoherent inanity in the next two minutes, I'm going to cut myself! Provincial populism!

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 08:57 PM (oZfic) at January 10, 2012 04:57 PM (B2SPW)

650 Based on the devilish exit poll data. Mittens wins all categories of conservatism. Interesting, but I would like to see that show on some road other than the NE.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:57 PM (0q2P7)

651

I don't care if the next guy is a rattlesnake handler, I'd rather have that that this Muzzsymp.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 10, 2012 04:57 PM (PddVe)

652 455 Per exit polls...

70% that voted for Hunstman IDed as Moderate/Liberal.

51% that voted for Hunstman are satisfied with Obama's performance.

Seriously. And this guy is going to finish in 3rd.

Posted by: Doc at January 10, 2012 08:15 PM (/h3en)

Given that information, I hereby declare the 1% of the vote won by Perry to be a Badge of Honor!

Can't we give that state to Canada?

Posted by: Meremortal at January 10, 2012 04:57 PM (Usk3+)

653 Mitt would not run anything like McCains, POW, give the puppy dog eyes to your captors and hope they go easy on you strategy that McCain ran.  (probably shouldn't have said that out loud.

Mitt would run a pretty aggressive campaign... you know like Dominoes when it redid its pizzas or subway etc..  That's the world Mitt is from and knows.  Of course he will be running against Obama with literally a billion dollar warchest again plus all the free wall to wall news/entertainment media cover.

Most of our frontrunners are sitting on between 4-15 million... basically nothing compared to the 1000 million ie Obamas Billion.   Most of the half of this country that lives off government as employee or welfare takers are going to literally believe their checks will stop and they'll lose their job/check, home, gay freedom, etc.. if Romney is elected.

Romney will run a more aggressive campaign then McCain but Obama 2012 is going to run a more outwardly aggressive campaign then Obama 08.

Anyone that tells you that this election is going to be anything but very close and very messy is, as far as im concerned, absolutely lying/delusional.

Posted by: Shiggz at January 10, 2012 04:57 PM (RfvTE)

654 If Bain capital is supposedly a liability how come Obama taking pictures with Corzine, a fucking criminal, and having his house bought by Tony Rezko, did not harm him?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 10, 2012 08:51 PM (sb3kT)

Whos going to report it?

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 04:57 PM (40rE+)

655 Conservatives are pathetic. Look at the losers they have had out front until now.

Huntsmen/Paul for 2012

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 04:57 PM (J6liE)

656 I sure could have missed it but have never heard Willard say "repeal" followed by "Obamacare".  What I have heard him say is that fucked up "repeal and replace" chickenshit.

Posted by: Bob Undead Saget at January 10, 2012 04:58 PM (dBvlk)

657 Oh, Islam is a religion by the technical sense of an organized system of faith all right. Its just more: its a political system, its a legal system. Islam is all, it controls all parts of life. Legal decisions in Islam are also church decisions. Church is state.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:58 PM (r4wIV)

658 But then, I apply the same reasoning to Creationism and to Biblical literalism, as well. So that's not an argument likely to be accepted in conservative circles.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 10, 2012 08:56 PM (QQAJP)

Consider it a circle of (at least) two.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 10, 2012 04:58 PM (lJJMb)

659 Rick Perry reminds me of a breakfast dish -- toast.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 10, 2012 04:58 PM (BhuDE)

660 702 I don't know what "populist" means, but I'll pretend to be surprised and shocked!

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 08:54 PM (oZfic) at January 10, 2012 08:55 PM (B2SPW)

isn't that a nice way of saying "someone who panders"?

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:58 PM (oZfic)

661 The only issue now is how to prevent Paul from running 3rd party and throwing the election to Obama. I'm not sure he wouldn't steal a lot of Obama's votes, if we keep him talking foreign policy.

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2012 04:58 PM (FcR7P)

662 Bain Capital firing some people

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 10, 2012 04:58 PM (sb3kT)

663 Pretty sad that over 40 percent of Republican primary voters are abject traitors.

Posted by: Chris at January 10, 2012 04:58 PM (XGZYX)

664
pfft. romney, paul,  if thats what it will be, I will probably go 3rd party unless my state is super close.  why encourage that crap?  maybe the repub party actually wants to be just dem lite and I have been wrong all along thinking it was just the elites controlling their fiefdoms. 

I have seen other people say what I just said and I said it was a vote for Obama.  Probably, but I don't see how it will matter either way anymore.  Neither party will stop the spending nor the attacks on liberty.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 10, 2012 04:59 PM (JYheX)

665 Why did New Hampshire ignore my choice, Michelle Bachmann?

Soccer moms! No one wins the presidency unless they're a woman! It's fact!

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 08:59 PM (oZfic) at January 10, 2012 04:59 PM (B2SPW)

666 715 Can't we give that state to Canada? -- New England, you're going back to old England! http://bit.ly/kniKK

Posted by: VOTE FOR DUKE! VOTE FOR DUKE! VOTE FOR DUKE! at January 10, 2012 05:00 PM (/h3en)

667 Did ace die of alcohol poisoning? he isnt on twitter or here. Maybe he is traversing the Nord Lands of Skyrim

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 05:00 PM (40rE+)

668 707 Oh, and by the way...HELL YEAH, ZIVA!!! Posted by: antisocialist at January 10, 2012 08:56 PM (j/nZn) I'd bang that so hard, I'd have to help pry her feet loose from behind her ears after!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:00 PM (niZvt)

669 700 Great, so is Romney now going to get some actual scrutiny?

Posted by: Chris at January 10, 2012 08:54 PM (XGZYX)


Give it one or two more primaries. Don't want to jump the gun here.

Posted by: The MFM at January 10, 2012 05:00 PM (KI/Ch)

670 I'm calling it for Romney.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 10, 2012 05:01 PM (3iLux)

671 The main issue to me is the Supreme Court. One or two more ultra-liberal leftist cunt Obama appointments and the country is fucked for 30-40 years.

Everything else is recoverable from.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 05:01 PM (QcFbt)

672 I can't remember who it was on Fox this morning that was going on about how voters arriving at the precincts (or not arriving at all) without a candidate firmly in mind indicates the dissatisfaction with our choices and what a terrible thing that is.

Bullshit. Many of us are completely happy with our choice of candidate, iffy as that choice may be.

Another option for why folks are undecided or not turning out in droves is because many people don't give a damn who is on the ticket because they are going to vote for whoever is not Obama.


Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:01 PM (piMMO)

673 I'm thinking Huntsman fared so well not because of his campaigning or his positions but because the voters seem to have been turned off by the other not-Romney candidates. Last I checked, the guy has no money and no organization. (Yes, I realize the Huntsmans are billionaires and buy a lot of ads, but his campaign is strapped.)

Posted by: Jordan at January 10, 2012 05:02 PM (RSG1I)

674 Evidently, there are those out there who would rather know how big Romney's "penis" is vs the size of his win... http://tinyurl.com/7w9ppt5 And, it ain't a woman, either.

Posted by: Does size matter? at January 10, 2012 05:02 PM (/MuFf)

675

I'll happily vote for Romney over Obama. I still won't believe Mormonism is Christian, though.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 08:56 PM (QcFbt)

I'm not convinced either but I'm sure he's a damn sight better than that demonic shit some people call Islam.

I'm looking at you, Obama and Holder.

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 05:02 PM (qKEux)

676 734 The main issue to me is the Supreme Court. One or two more ultra-liberal leftist cunt Obama appointments and the country is fucked for 30-40 years. you mean forever.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 10, 2012 05:02 PM (sb3kT)

677 730 Did ace die of alcohol poisoning? he isnt on twitter or here. Maybe he is traversing the Nord Lands of Skyrim Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 09:00 PM (40rE+) He's hugging his bottle of Valurite on the floor of his kitchen, rocking back and forth as he tearfully mutters, "But I told them it's no big deal to spout Marxism!"

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:02 PM (niZvt)

678 I sure could have missed it but have never heard Willard say "repeal" followed by "Obamacare".  What I have heard him say is that fucked up "repeal and replace" chickenshit.

Posted by: Bob Undead Saget at January 10, 2012 08:58 PM (dBvlk)

He said it in his speech tonight. "I  will repeal Obamacare"

Posted by: robtr at January 10, 2012 05:03 PM (MtwBb)

679 714

I don't care if the next guy is a rattlesnake handler, I'd rather have that that this Muzzsymp.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 10, 2012 08:57 PM (PddVe)

At least we'd know definitively and objectively that the snake-handler has balls, even if they're short on brains.  The JEF seems to be running a deficit on both.  In his defense, he has a surplus of self-regard, emotion-based "reasoning", and self-regard.  Also, he has self-regard.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 10, 2012 05:03 PM (lJJMb)

680 70% that voted for Hunstman IDed as Moderate/Liberal.
51% that voted for Hunstman are satisfied with Obama's performance.
Seriously. And this guy is going to finish in 3rd.



Yeah, but he blew his wad (of cash) in NH.

What's left?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:03 PM (piMMO)

681 "Neither party will stop the spending nor the attacks on liberty."

Stupidos, stop spending on the military, and leave people the fk alone at home. That is, end the war on drugs and the war on your biblical view of morality.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:04 PM (J6liE)

682 And I'm Catholic. I mean really? Catholics aren't Christian? Really? The folks who (by vote of the bishops I might add) came up with the theology of the Divine Christ and wrote the original tenets of faith aren't Christian? You can't take the self righteous seriously about such things.  Posted by: MikeTheMoose

No, I rarely take anything here seriously. Truth be told, I don't have a particular stake in the matter. However, I'm baffled by the idea that any individual, anywhere, including the Bishop of Rome, has the right to determine such things. Excommunication doesn't even involve that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2012 05:04 PM (jcnm8)

683 ARGHGHGH!!! Make them stop it!


Even hearing those words makes my skin crawl!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:04 PM (piMMO)

684 If this doesn't demonstrate the evil that is the open primary nothing will. If Cali did an open primary we'd put Paul or Huntsman at #1 for sure.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 05:04 PM (0q2P7)

685 The only issue now is how to prevent Paul from running 3rd party and throwing the election to Obama.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 08:12 PM (QcFbt)

I think Paul pulls many more Obama voters than Repub voters. The young ones that want no military and legal drugs are Obama voters otherwise. The conservative/libertarians who like Paul come from the group that doesn't vote anyway, because they find the establishment type Repub unacceptable. By not vote I mean they vote third party or not at all, same difference.

It's win-win, run Dr. Paul, run!

Posted by: Meremortal at January 10, 2012 05:04 PM (Usk3+)

686 Great, so is Romney now going to get some actual scrutiny? We cannot wait to print these articles we've been sitting on for four years! But wait we must...

Posted by: The MFM at January 10, 2012 05:04 PM (FcR7P)

687

Oh good.Crazy Uncle Paul is on Fox. "We ARE dangerous."

He just did a Howard Dean YEARRGH.  

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at January 10, 2012 05:04 PM (gEDkw)

688 733 I'm calling it for Romney. Posted by: rdbrewer at January 10, 2012 09:01 PM (3iLux) You think?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:04 PM (niZvt)

689 Another option for why folks are undecided or not turning out in droves is because many people don't give a damn who is on the ticket because they are going to vote for whoever is not Obama.

Yeah, and I think that's most of it. Even the leftits I know don't like Obama, but they'll vote for him anyway. Better him than any Republican in their sad little withered minds.

you mean forever.

For the rest of the life of America.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 05:05 PM (r4wIV)

690 Posted by: Jordan at January 10, 2012

Hi.

Is the Texas Legislature still in session?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2012 05:05 PM (jcnm8)

691 750 Great, so is Romney now going to get some actual scrutiny? We cannot wait to print these articles we've been sitting on for four years! But wait we must much! Posted by: The MFM at January 10, 2012 09:04 PM (FcR7P) FTFY

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:06 PM (niZvt)

692 I'm calling it for Romney.

Sorcerer!!!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:06 PM (piMMO)

693 Paul is going full tilt batshit whacked...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:06 PM (niZvt)

694 Thank goodness, I just got some more credits toward my seminary degree. This place has it all.

Posted by: Ronster at January 10, 2012 05:06 PM (JGYCE)

695 Yeah, but he blew his wad (of cash) in NH.

And he probably needed a second-place finish tonight instead of distant third.  If Huntsman couldn't get that in NH I don't know why he expects to get anywhere in SC or Florida.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 05:07 PM (ad7NF)

696 >>I don't care if the next guy is a rattlesnake handler, I'd rather have that that this Muzzsymp.

A distinction with no difference.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 05:07 PM (HBqDo)

697 I think Paul pulls many more Obama voters than Repub voters. The young ones that want no military and legal drugs are Obama voters otherwise. The conservative/libertarians who like Paul come from the group that doesn't vote anyway, because they find the establishment type Repub unacceptable. By not vote I mean they vote third party or not at all, same difference.

I agree. That youth vote Obama scored last time around. Yeah. Not so much this time.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:07 PM (piMMO)

698 Ron Paul ain't Ross Perot, who is going to fund his national campaign? Stoners and Alex Jones?

Posted by: lowandslow at January 10, 2012 05:07 PM (GZitp)

699

Ready for a new thread. This will kill this one ;-)

God is three persons: the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit. The Son willingly came to earth to point the way to God and to die for the sin of mankind. Acceptance of that and invitation for Jesus to be Lord and Master of our lives is what makes one a Christian. The belief also includes that the Holy Spirit is God living in us, in our "hearts", in our consciousness. Compare your beliefs against this definition of Christianity to see if your religion concurs. It's not hard, and it's not splitting hairs. Jesus is Lord, it's that simple.

Posted by: marybel at January 10, 2012 05:08 PM (TDe/C)

700 So why does a liberal state like New Hampshire carry so much weight in deciding the Republican presidential nominee?  Isn't it a given they're going to pick the most left leaning 'conservative' running?

Posted by: DngrMse at January 10, 2012 05:08 PM (Wzdwz)

701 Oh yeah they're front loaded on Romney, what do you think the whole Occupy Movement was about? 1%, its the buzz word now for everyone. Romney is the 1%, Obama grew up poor. Romney is a Wall Street guy, Obama is for the regular guy. Romney ran a company and fired guys, Obama is creating 9124701240128734 jobs per second with the Stimulus. Romney was for Obamacare too, after all we took Romney's guys as advisors when we wrote it!

They're all loaded up and waiting.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 05:08 PM (r4wIV)

702 Why aren't you paying attention to me? I'm plugged-in AND from New York! That's how I knew the Democrats would sweep in 2010, and how I predicted Michele Bachmann's excellent result in New Hampshire!

Now let me list every possible VP combo, so you can be amazed at how many names I know! If you're not from New York, you won't know these names!

Romney/Weiner. Romney/Kennedy. Romney/Giuliani. Romney/Gretzky. Romney/Churchill. Romney/Vercingetorix.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 09:07 PM (oZfic) at January 10, 2012 05:08 PM (B2SPW)

703 Perry finished No. One... Right?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:08 PM (niZvt)

704

23 Early results show a strong showing by Perry. Are they just screwing with us?
 
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 10, 2012 06:39 PM (YeIP1)

 

yes, and it's hilarious.

Posted by: Shoey at January 10, 2012 05:08 PM (m6OUa)

705 "However, I'm baffled by the idea that any individual, anywhere, including the Bishop of Rome, has the right to determine such things. Excommunication doesn't even involve that."

I'm baffled by the idea that there are Protestants that have to take their little war against Catholicism to conservative blogs.  This nonsense is why I stopped going to Hot Air. 

Posted by: Anony at January 10, 2012 05:09 PM (Yigvc)

706 Oh my God, will that chick behind him sit on Paul's face to shut him up already??

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:09 PM (niZvt)

707 Perrymentum!!!

Posted by: steevy at January 10, 2012 05:09 PM (7W3wI)

708 God is three persons: the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit.

Perhaps you meant to say "entities". They can hardly be called "people".

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:09 PM (piMMO)

709 Conservatives are pathetic and don't even know what the fk they want.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:09 PM (J6liE)

710

I think Paul pulls many more Obama voters than Repub voters. The young ones that want no military and legal drugs are Obama voters otherwise. The conservative/libertarians who like Paul come from the group that doesn't vote anyway, because they find the establishment type Repub unacceptable. By not vote I mean they vote third party or not at all, same difference.

It's win-win, run Dr. Paul, run!

Posted by: Meremortal at January 10, 2012 09:04 PM (Usk3+)

If Raykon be with us, who can be against us?

Posted by: Henry VIII at January 10, 2012 05:09 PM (lJJMb)

711 Ron Paul: "Military-industrial complex!1!!111!!!!"

Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 05:09 PM (d6QMz)

712 Rick Perry is the 1%.  Sob.

Posted by: Truman North at January 10, 2012 05:10 PM (I2LwF)

713 Romney/Vercingetorix

That ticket has my vote.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 05:10 PM (r4wIV)

714 Oh my God, will that chick behind him sit on Paul's face to shut him up already??

Is there anything on earth that doesn't trigger a thought about sex?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:10 PM (piMMO)

715 I will cut one trillion brain cells from your skull.

Posted by: Ron Paul at January 10, 2012 05:10 PM (fM4AU)

716 508 I have NO IDEA what the hell McCain was trying to do.

McCain was running on a combination of inevitability mixed with his apparently almost religious fear of badmouthing or hurting fellow Senators. He seems to hold fellow Senators in an almost terrified awe, unwilling to do anything that might upset them or contradict them in any way.

McCain only holds DEMOCRATIC senators in high esteem (Kennedy, Kerry, Feingold, Lieberman), he's had a notoriously vile temper toward almost all Repub senators (except lovely Lindsey Graham, of course).  John McCain had only 1 overriding directive in 2008:  to prevent any Republican not named McCain from winning the presidency.  He succeeded.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at January 10, 2012 05:10 PM (hRH92)

717 buddy roemer is catching up to perry.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 05:10 PM (oZfic)

718 The problem with Islam isn't that it's false. At least, not just that it's false. Being false is enough for me, but not enough for the mushy-headed Left.

The problem with Islam is that mosque / state thing just mentioned, or more exactly mosque / army. Islam wouldn't know what to do with a state if it got one. It's had states before; `Umar, three courses of Umayyads, the `Abbasids, and all those Shi`ite caliphates. It'd be a cheap shot to say, well, they were Arabs and it's not easy to get discipline and brains out of that lot. The real issue is that humans have their own agendas and Islam demands God's absolute sovereignty on Earth.

Patricia Crone in Slaves and Horses demonstrated the inexorable logic of Islamic statecraft: the Muslim `Abd Allah, the Slave of God, must arm a bunch of his own slaves and trust that they'll not decide to take over. Hilarity inevitably ensues.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 10, 2012 05:10 PM (QQAJP)

719 771 Oh my God, will that chick behind him sit on Paul's face to shut him up already??

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 09:09 PM (niZvt)

The one in black or the one in purple?

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:10 PM (smvTK)

720 Perhaps you meant to say "entities". They can hardly be called "people".

There's a difference between "person" and "people" but its a pretty unknown philosophical one.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (r4wIV)

721

I'm on a kinda slow connection, would someone mind posting the latest results while I sit here like a lardass drinking my Carpineto, Vino Nobile di Montepulciano?

Thanksh somushh

Posted by: Meremortal at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (Usk3+)

722 Rick Perry is the 1%.  Sob.

He forfeited NH. Wisely so. SC and Florida are the real tests for him. If he doesn't nail at least one of them, he's done.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (piMMO)

723 Romney is a world record holder of flip flops

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (J6liE)

724 Rand looks a lot shorter with glasses on.

Posted by: S Daniel at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (fM4AU)

725

However, I'm baffled by the idea that any individual, anywhere, including the Bishop of Rome, has the right to determine such things.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2012 09:04 PM (jcnm

Someone has to stand in the gap and as it so happens to be at this place in time, it's Pope Benedict.

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (qKEux)

726 "Rick Perry is the 1%. Sob." Up to 585 votes. Go Rick Go!

Posted by: Jordan at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (RSG1I)

727 758 Paul is going full tilt batshit whacked being himself...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 09:06 PM (niZvt)

FTFY.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (lJJMb)

728 774 Conservatives are pathetic and don't even know what the fk they want.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:09 PM (J6liE)

I want to time travel to when the field includes Ryan, Rubio, and Jindal.  That's what I want.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (mYdoZ)

729 779 "Oh my God, will that chick behind him sit on Paul's face to shut him up already??" Is there anything on earth that doesn't trigger a thought about sex? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 09:10 PM (piMMO) Should there be?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:12 PM (niZvt)

730 The one in black or the one in purple?

You think he cares?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:12 PM (piMMO)

731 Is there a over/under on Perry getting a thousand votes?

Posted by: lowandslow at January 10, 2012 05:12 PM (GZitp)

732 True Mormon fact: It is considered a mortal sin by Mormons to trim one's nosehairs on a Monday.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 10, 2012 05:12 PM (X3vSL)

733 Willard Romney?...Never heard of him...

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at January 10, 2012 05:13 PM (bnTY4)

734 Heh, the new populist warrior Newt Hussein Gingrich is only 50 votes away from being in 5th place.

Posted by: robtr at January 10, 2012 05:13 PM (MtwBb)

735 Rand looks a lot shorter with glasses on.



Duuude!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:13 PM (piMMO)

736

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at January 10, 2012 09:10 PM (hRH92)

Fairness: kicking your friends in the nuts early and often

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at January 10, 2012 05:13 PM (mYdoZ)

737 >>Is there anything on earth that doesn't trigger a thought about sex?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 09:10 PM (piMMO)

If that's a political platform, we need you to stake out your position more clearly.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 05:14 PM (HBqDo)

738 Oh, you thought I was going to stop talking anytime soon?  Heh.  Stupid cons.

Posted by: Pron Raul at January 10, 2012 05:14 PM (ad7NF)

739 You think he cares?

Depends on how maldistributed her weight is on his face . . .

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:14 PM (smvTK)

740 I like ice cream!

Posted by: Woot Woot Woot at January 10, 2012 05:14 PM (fM4AU)

741 You have to hand it to Paul, he has the stage and he's going to use it to say everything he's ever thought in the last 70 plus years.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 05:14 PM (oZfic)

742 784 771 Oh my God, will that chick behind him sit on Paul's face to shut him up already?? Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 09:09 PM (niZvt) The one in black or the one in purple? Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 09:10 PM (smvTK) They could take turns.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:14 PM (niZvt)

743 Is there a over/under on Perry getting a thousand votes?

600 votes for someone who didn't pander to their egos or blow his cash in their state, I don't think that's too bad.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:14 PM (piMMO)

744 RICK PERRY!

Posted by: RICK PERRY! at January 10, 2012 05:15 PM (vOH26)

745 Hey, you should just join the one, true church and become Roman Catholic.

None of this worry about whether what you believe is proper theologically. No worry about faith vs deeds. No fear that you'll lose your faith at the wrong moment with the wrong thought. No paranoia about whether you really believe, or are just pretending to believe. You follow the rules, you get your ticket stamped, papers punched, and you're good to go.

Once you get baptized and confirmed nobody can take that away from you. Not even you. Not even bad thoughts or doubting the existence of god. It's a good deal.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 05:15 PM (QcFbt)

746 The chanting Paultards are just plain fucking creepy.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 10, 2012 05:15 PM (X3vSL)

747 Did Ron Paul just have a Howard Dean moment?  I thought I heard it as I was going down to feed my bunny.

Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2012 05:16 PM (Z71Vg)

748 So why does a liberal state like New Hampshire carry so much weight in deciding the Republican presidential nominee?  Isn't it a given they're going to pick the most left leaning 'conservative' running?

1. NH is a stronghold for the establishment.
2. Years past it used to be far more red than it is today.

I vote we take their keys away.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 05:16 PM (0q2P7)

749 God is three persons: the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit. In other words, three corporations.

Posted by: Mittens! at January 10, 2012 05:16 PM (FcR7P)

750 Ron Paul isn't going to stop campaigning for President until he has departed this mortal plane.  Even then he'll vote Democrat from the Hereafter. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 10, 2012 05:16 PM (UR5vq)

751 Anyone who finishes behind Jon Huntsman in a Republican primary should drop out immediately. Of shame.

Posted by: tsj017 at January 10, 2012 05:16 PM (vOH26)

752 How long could Paul last with the blond chick sitting over his mouth and nostrils?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:16 PM (niZvt)

753 OT but I forgot how good Toy Story 3 was. Watching it on Encore now.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 10, 2012 05:16 PM (YeIP1)

754 I thought I heard it as I was going down to feed my bunny.

Is that some obscure double entendre?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 05:17 PM (r4wIV)

755 I suspect Neil Cavuto of once (and perhaps still) playing Dungeons and Dragons.

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:17 PM (smvTK)

756 "Once you get baptized and confirmed nobody can take that away from you. Not even you." I'm a double-baptized atheist. Those two dips provide me cosmological insurance... I think?

Posted by: Jordan at January 10, 2012 05:17 PM (RSG1I)

757 Sorry Neid - three PERSONS. God is a person. He is three persons.

Posted by: marybel at January 10, 2012 05:17 PM (TDe/C)

758 Ron Paul isn't going to stop campaigning for President until he has departed this mortal plane crazy train

Posted by: Ozzie at January 10, 2012 05:17 PM (FcR7P)

759 When Paul says he didn't know they were out there, what "there" is he talking about besides his own space?
And does this mean a run on vinegar?

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 05:18 PM (HBqDo)

760 God is three persons: the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit.

In other words, three corporations.

did the parent corporation loot the subsidiary prior to bankruptcy?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 05:18 PM (0q2P7)

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:18 PM (piMMO)

762 819 OT but I forgot how good Toy Story 3 was. Watching it on Encore now.

For a few moments toward the end I thought they were actually going to kill them all off.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 05:19 PM (ad7NF)

763 816 God is three persons: the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit.

In other words, three corporations.

Posted by: Mittens! at January 10, 2012 09:16 PM (FcR7P)

No, Mittrius, it's more like three divisions of one corporation (or "corpus") which you ceremonially eat, usually with a nice chianti.

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:19 PM (smvTK)

764 marybel 764 Ready for a new thread. This will kill this one ;-)God is three persons: the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit.

As your secular stand-in for Christ-off sadly banned: I agree with this. If you're a Trinitarian, you're in the mainstream of Christian Tradition going back least to at Irenaeus - maybe even John. Demoting any person from the Trinity means you've forsaken the Tradition. To my knowledge no Protestants have dared do that. (In fact, Protestant apologists quote Patristics too. I've noticed a fondness for Tertullian especially.)

I'm not getting into whether the Arians or Gnostics were right, theologically. But if they are right, then Christianity is wrong. A non-Trinitarian position is simply incompatible with the genius of the New Testament and Patristics.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 10, 2012 05:19 PM (QQAJP)

765 @822 Yeah, I think you're good.

Although I'll have to check the new 5th edition ruleset. I don't think baptisms stack anymore.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 05:20 PM (QcFbt)

766 I'm a double-baptized atheist. Those two dips provide me cosmological insurance... I think?

Posted by: Jordan at January 10, 2012 09:17 PM (RSG1I)

No, you're still wormfood.

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 05:20 PM (qKEux)

767 Once you get baptized and confirmed nobody can take that away from you. Not even you. Not even bad thoughts or doubting the existence of god. It's a good deal. Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 09:15 PM (QcFbt) Indeed so. When in Heaven, let's meet for lunch. I'll buy.

Posted by: eman at January 10, 2012 05:20 PM (dWuuB)

768 "815 Ron Paul isn't going to stop campaigning for President until he has departed this mortal plane.  Even then he'll vote Democrat from the Hereafter. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 10, 2012 09:16 PM (UR5vq)"

Conservatives hate freedom if they are not dictating it.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:20 PM (J6liE)

769 ""How long could Paul last with the blond chick sitting over his mouth and nostrils?""


Depends on how big her ass is.

Posted by: Berserker at January 10, 2012 05:20 PM (FMbng)

770 Who says protecting the environment can't be manly?!

If you think that's manly I'm suspending your man card for a week starting right now.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 05:20 PM (0q2P7)

771 The FNC talking heads are saying some weird shit...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:20 PM (niZvt)

772

Is that some obscure double entendre?

LOL. No.. We inherited my daughters rabbit when she moved to Colorado.  We didnt have the heart to take him to a shelter where he would surely wither away and die.  So.. we have a rabbit.  His name is Hef.  My daughter has a sense of humor.

Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2012 05:21 PM (Z71Vg)

773 LarrySabato Maybe some big areas are out, but looks to me like NH turnout is well below projection of 250,000, won't even hit '08's 240,000. #fitn

Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 05:21 PM (d6QMz)

774 You know who all of this helps?

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at January 10, 2012 05:21 PM (smvTK)

775 Conservatives, let us live free from your imaginary beast in heaven.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:21 PM (J6liE)

776 I don't think baptisms stack anymore.

That got nerfed in the last patch, it was unbalanced in PVP.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 05:22 PM (r4wIV)

777

How long could Paul last with the blond chick sitting over his mouth and nostrils?

That's me, so I can find out if you like!

Posted by: sally may b at January 10, 2012 05:22 PM (Usk3+)

778 "23. Q. How many Persons are there in God? A. In God there are three Divine Persons, really distinct, and equal in all things-the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost"

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 05:23 PM (oZfic)

779 >>The FNC talking heads are saying some weird shit...
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 09:20 PM (niZvt)

Heh

Priceless

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 05:23 PM (HBqDo)

780 He forfeited NH. Wisely so. SC and Florida are the real tests for him. Is he taking advantage of this time? "I hope they forget about me" doesn't seem like a great plan.

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2012 05:23 PM (FcR7P)

781 jaketapper Obama campaign deep-dives into exit polls to analyze/spin Romney's weaknesses > http://t.co/c1FrABcf

Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 05:23 PM (d6QMz)

782 5 Prediction:  I never see you or him again for the rest of my life.

Posted by: Jerry at January 10, 2012 06:33 PM (fOmkv)


Prediction, you'll be calling me, to ask if you can come and visit him, before the month is out.


Posted by: Gavin at January 10, 2012 05:23 PM (k34Gz)

783 So.. we have a rabbit. His name is Hef. My daughter has a sense of humor.

We had rabbits when I was a kid. I named one Bunny Sadr. You can guess when that was.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 05:24 PM (r4wIV)

784 After spending all of his time and resources in NH and coming in third 20 points behind the winner, is there any argument for Huntsman to remain in the race? His entire campaign strategy revolved around NH; he's going nowhere in SC and won't win in FL.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 10, 2012 05:24 PM (X3vSL)

785 841 Conservatives, let us live free from your imaginary beast in heaven. Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:21 PM (J6liE) Don't you have a cock to suck? No? Here's mine!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:24 PM (niZvt)

786 Odd that Paul campaign, which argues against certain wars and the military industrial complex, plays "The Imperial March" before Paul speaks

Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 05:25 PM (d6QMz)

787 Is Sabato counting only GOPers? In 2008, both parties had an active primary.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 05:25 PM (Qjh0I)

788 849 So.. we have a rabbit. His name is Hef. My daughter has a sense of humor. We had rabbits when I was a kid. I named one Bunny Sadr. You can guess when that was. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 09:24 PM (r4wIV) 1979?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:25 PM (niZvt)

789

 Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:21 PM

Mighty early to be really high

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 05:25 PM (GBxvs)

790 "Huntsman:  Country First"

???

WTF???

Wasn't "Country First" McCain's slogan?

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at January 10, 2012 05:25 PM (smvTK)

791 Yeah, but they forgot to nerf the Mormon undead, who are massively overpowered now. Only your latest baptism counts now -- but Mormons have the baptism of the dead power, which is still unlimited.

A part of all Mormon undead is practically invincible now.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 05:25 PM (QcFbt)

792 ""Conservatives, let us live free from your imaginary beast in heaven.""



So your kind can go and create a beast on earth? No thanks, and I'm not even religious. Besides, you leftist cockholsters have more fucking god/masters than the god damn ancient egyptians did, you're just too fucking stupid to see it.

Posted by: Berserker at January 10, 2012 05:25 PM (FMbng)

793 841 Conservatives, let us live free from your imaginary beast in heaven.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:21 PM (J6liE)


We could make a deal.  We quit supporting our imaginary beast.  You quit supporting the candidate that's scared of the Bilderbergers and the North American Union.

Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 05:26 PM (v5FAc)

794

>>Conservatives hate freedom if they are not dictating it.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:20 PM (J6liE)

Your nic slaps down all of your remarks.

Are you multi tasking as well you fucking freak?

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 05:26 PM (HBqDo)

795 "Don't you have a cock to suck?

No? Here's mine!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 09:24 PM (niZvt)"


Are you as a conservative degrading women again?

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:26 PM (J6liE)

796 Wasserman Schultz calls Romney's win "a significant setback for both his campaign and his candidacy for president.”  

Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 05:26 PM (d6QMz)

797 Im actually glad that Jim Huntsman stays in the race. He absorbs Dems that would otherwise vote for Paul. 

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 05:26 PM (1PXIb)

798

Ron Paul's face?

I'll hop right on it!

Posted by: sally may b at January 10, 2012 05:27 PM (Usk3+)

799 A non-Trinitarian position is simply incompatible with the genius of the New Testament and Patristics. Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo Holy crap, my reasoning of "because" doesn't sound nearly as impressive.

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2012 05:27 PM (FcR7P)

800 Once you get baptized and confirmed nobody can take that away from you. Not even you. Not even bad thoughts or doubting the existence of god. It's a good deal.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 09:15 PM (QcFbt)

Not so fast. One can easily turn from God and do evil things.

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 05:27 PM (qKEux)

801 Anytime a socialist starts to carry on about "not believing in evolution," I chortle over their belief in Socialism and Keynesianism.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:28 PM (niZvt)

802 11 I predict a human wave of Rombots and Paulbots will inundate this thread.
 
I'm going to think about canning apricots.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 10, 2012 06:35 PM (BhuDE)


Those outlaws just don't know how to take "no" for an answer.


Posted by: Jack Nicholson at January 10, 2012 05:28 PM (k34Gz)

803 Sarah Palin™ on Fox sounding awfully high on RON PAUL! again, for the second week in a row.

How 'bout that.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 05:29 PM (ad7NF)

804 > 867 Not so fast. One can easily turn from God and do evil things. Posted by: ErikW You can turn from God - God won't turn from you.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 10, 2012 05:29 PM (CLIf7)

805 Jon Huntsman will recite the Pledge in Mandarin.

Posted by: S Daniel at January 10, 2012 05:29 PM (fM4AU)

806 I guess the news of my endorsement did not make it to New Hampshire.

Posted by: Todd Palin at January 10, 2012 05:29 PM (7A0m5)

807 Wasn't "Country First" McCain's slogan?

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at January 10, 2012 09:25 PM (smvTK)

here someone asked "which country, china?"

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 05:29 PM (oZfic)

808 Huntsman:  Country First.  New Hampshire Third.

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:30 PM (smvTK)

809 Sarah is starting to show her age... Looks like Jack Kemp in drag... Bret just cut her off at the knees...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:30 PM (niZvt)

810 But she don't care....

Posted by: S Daniel at January 10, 2012 05:30 PM (fM4AU)

811 > 868 Anytime a socialist starts to carry on about "not believing in evolution," I chortle over their belief in Socialism and Keynesianism. Posted by: CoolCzech Phaugh. I moved my cursor around looking for the ReTweet button.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 10, 2012 05:30 PM (CLIf7)

812 841 Conservatives, let us live free from your imaginary beast in heaven.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:21 PM (J6liE)

If this beast is telling me to vote against RAWN PAWL, I think I'm going to listen to him thank you very much

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at January 10, 2012 05:30 PM (mYdoZ)

813 868 Anytime a socialist starts to carry on about "not believing in evolution," I chortle over their belief in Socialism and Keynesianism.

That, and that they think that evolution magically ended 70,000 years ago.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 10, 2012 05:30 PM (QQAJP)

814 Bret just cut her off at the knees...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 09:30 PM (niZvt)

To go to Huntsman's speech.....

Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 05:30 PM (X6akg)

815 too early for theological arguments?

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 05:30 PM (h+qn8)

816 Palin got cut off, good.  The average commenter here would provide better analysis than she ever would.

Posted by: Ken Royall at January 10, 2012 05:31 PM (umam+)

817

764

And that's when it all went to hell.

Posted by: sally may b at January 10, 2012 05:31 PM (Usk3+)

818 Yeah, Palin has finally started to age. Or maybe it's just a bad make-up job.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 05:31 PM (QcFbt)

819 I'd rather hop on Michele's face, though. Is she celebrating the soccer moms leading her to victory in New Hampshire, as I predicted? Can't win without soccer moms, and soccer moms only vote for women!

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 09:31 PM (oZfic) at January 10, 2012 05:31 PM (TAzuU)

820 We need to re-open that whole face-sitting discussion, I think . . .

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:31 PM (smvTK)

821 Yep, I say something like "Im glad Huntsman stay in the race cuz of Paul" and of course Huntsman shows up on the screen and makes me regret it immediately.

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 05:31 PM (1PXIb)

822 Gee, I thought it was country second.

Posted by: S Daniel at January 10, 2012 05:31 PM (fM4AU)

823

damn it, get that camera on the hot daughter...

 

Posted by: Shoey at January 10, 2012 05:32 PM (m6OUa)

824 Just the Tip Mitt wins NH and ..... meh.

Posted by: eman at January 10, 2012 05:32 PM (dWuuB)

825

"Are you as a conservative degrading women again?"

are you a democrat lynching blacks again?

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 05:32 PM (GBxvs)

826 I thought Palin looked pretty good, in all honesty.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 05:32 PM (HBqDo)

827 "Yeah, but they forgot to nerf the Mormon undead, who are massively overpowered now. Only your latest baptism counts now -- but Mormons have the baptism of the dead power, which is still unlimited. " They need to increase the cooldown for baptism. That way the Mormons couldn't spam it all the time.

Posted by: Jordan at January 10, 2012 05:32 PM (RSG1I)

828

Cool facts about Ron Paul:

Ron Paul once yelled at a neighboorhood kid to "Stay off my lawn!"  That kid grew up to be John McCain.

Posted by: Cincinnatus at January 10, 2012 05:32 PM (OhQo2)

829 I think Huntsman is a little drunk.

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 10, 2012 05:32 PM (2YIVk)

830

Palin™ on Fox sounding awfully high on RON PAUL! again, for the second week in a row.

How 'bout that.

Then she is finally, once and for all, truly toast.  Good riddance.

Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2012 05:33 PM (Z71Vg)

831

i'm getting scary accurate w/ this stuff, move over Nate Silver

CAC i'm coming for you...

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at January 10, 2012 05:33 PM (iH3ho)

832 890

damn it, get that camera on the hot daughter...

 

Posted by: Shoey at January 10, 2012 09:32 PM (m6OUa)

That's the brunette, not the blonde with the overabundance of lipstick?

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:33 PM (smvTK)

833 "Huntsman: Country First" I'm taking this as a veiled Faith Hill reference.

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2012 05:33 PM (FcR7P)

834 I'd elaborate on Catholic theology, but the whole point of being Catholic to me is so I don't have to waste time worrying about that crap.

That and the Church's embrace of heavy drinking.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 05:33 PM (QcFbt)

835 Woo hoo.   A state tailor made for Huntsman and he gets 17%.  Keep going you fucking failure!!!

Posted by: Ken Royall at January 10, 2012 05:33 PM (umam+)

836 They need to increase the cooldown for baptism. That way the Mormons couldn't spam it all the time.

Posted by: Jordan at January 10, 2012 09:32 PM (RSG1I)

I think the recharge for the full shout, once you've unlocked all three words of power, is around 60 minutes.

Posted by: Ted Haggarty at January 10, 2012 05:34 PM (lJJMb)

837 Max Headroom for prez!

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 10, 2012 05:34 PM (2YIVk)

838 Dammit Jon, shut up and get your daughters on camera. I haven't had a chance to beat off to a political speech since Jeri Thompson.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 10, 2012 05:34 PM (X3vSL)

839 no the one by the vest lady, that's the hot one

Posted by: Shoey at January 10, 2012 05:34 PM (m6OUa)

840 srs question, how srs is NH in this?

who did they choose in 08 , was it a good call?

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 05:35 PM (h+qn8)

841 Assganistan?

Posted by: Ken Royall at January 10, 2012 05:35 PM (umam+)

842 If you think that's manly I'm suspending your man card for a week starting right now.

Wha?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:35 PM (piMMO)

843 905 Dammit Jon, shut up and get your daughters on camera. I haven't had a chance to beat off to a political speech since Jeri Thompson. Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 10, 2012 09:34 PM (X3vSL) that's just creepy, dude

Posted by: Shoey at January 10, 2012 05:35 PM (m6OUa)

844 906 no the one by the vest lady, that's the hot one

Posted by: Shoey at January 10, 2012 09:34 PM (m6OUa)

"Time to bring the troops home from Ass-Ganistan!"  -- What's HE thinkin' about?

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:35 PM (smvTK)

845 I CAN TAKE ON ALLA YOU CANDIDATSCH!  AT THE SAME TIME!  SHEE IF I CAN'T!

*hic*

Posted by: Jon Huntsman at January 10, 2012 05:35 PM (ad7NF)

846 I can still love Ron Paul even if Palin supports him.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:35 PM (J6liE)

847 I'd like to play butt bongo with the Huntsman daughters. Am I Wrong?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:35 PM (niZvt)

848 You can turn from God - God won't turn from you.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 10, 2012 09:29 PM (CLIf7)

True but I'd hate to be in front of God and have to explain why I was an asshole.

 

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 05:36 PM (qKEux)

849 Tollybon? I don't trust this Huntsman fella.

And yes, he is drunk/drugged.

Posted by: S Daniel at January 10, 2012 05:36 PM (fM4AU)

850 Hollow, is Huntsman your guy?

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 05:36 PM (h+qn8)

851 "This nation is about to rise up again."  What's HE thinkin' about?

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:36 PM (smvTK)

852 Please explain to me how Mittens is going to carry the deep south.  Just wondering.

Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 05:37 PM (HmZoH)

853 No, we have the greatest armed forced in the HISTORY OF THE WORLD, not just this nation.

Posted by: Ken Royall at January 10, 2012 05:37 PM (umam+)

854 Oh my - Im in love!!!

Posted by: Dianne Sawyer at January 10, 2012 05:38 PM (1PXIb)

855 man it i wish i had a t.v in my attic.

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 05:38 PM (h+qn8)

856 Huntsman reminds me of my drunken Irish uncles.
Watching him talk is like being at my family reunions. Lot of drunken pale people ranting about politics.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 05:38 PM (QcFbt)

857 Kittens and Puppies!

Posted by: Woot Woot Woot at January 10, 2012 05:38 PM (fM4AU)

858 "Theatres of Cum-bath" What IS Huntsman thinking about?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:38 PM (niZvt)

859 Please explain to me how Obama Mittens is going to carry the deep south.  Just wondering.

Posted by: Ken Royall at January 10, 2012 05:38 PM (umam+)

860 I hate the kids in my neighborhood. Bankrupt them.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 05:38 PM (V6fqC)

861 man-damn, sheesh

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 05:38 PM (h+qn8)

862 919 Please explain to me how Mittens is going to carry the deep south.

Simple, we'll go to the polls and vote for him.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 05:38 PM (ad7NF)

863 Huntsman is starting to trigger the urge in me to plunge ice picks into my ears . . .

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:38 PM (smvTK)

864 >>"This nation is about to rise up again."  What's HE thinkin' about?
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 09:36 PM (smvTK)

Sure, try that line without your daughters behind you Jonny.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 05:39 PM (HBqDo)

865

Please explain to me how Mittens is going to carry the deep south.  Just wondering.

He won't.  The race is about to get interesting now that we got the two loony states taken care of.

Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2012 05:39 PM (Z71Vg)

866 919 Please explain to me how Mittens is going to carry the deep south.  Just wondering.

Obama.

Posted by: Deep South at January 10, 2012 05:39 PM (fM4AU)

867 Huntsman is like Ron Paul, but without any of the redeeming Federal Reserve hate.

Posted by: Shoey at January 10, 2012 05:39 PM (m6OUa)

868 Romney will campaign on restoring America.
And also restoring Christianity to the original vision as explained in the Book of Mormon.

Huntsman will campaign on vodka tonics.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 05:40 PM (QcFbt)

869 @ 917- I might pretend to support Huntsman just for the hell of it, but I've pretty much resigned myself to Romney winning the nomination whether I like it or not.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 10, 2012 05:41 PM (X3vSL)

870 870 Sarah Palin™ on Fox sounding awfully high on RON PAUL! again, for the second week in a row. How 'bout that. Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 09:29 PM (ad7NF) Sarah: Look! a retarded baby! So cuutteee! Todd: Naw, It's just Ron Paul.

Posted by: January at January 10, 2012 05:41 PM (j9etX)

871 True but I'd hate to be in front of God and have to explain why I was an asshole.

Too late!





I keed! I keed!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:41 PM (piMMO)

872 Hollow, alright, yes, i've resigned myself also.  we'll see.

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 05:42 PM (h+qn8)

873 933 919 Please explain to me how Mittens is going to carry the deep south.  Just wondering.

Obama.

Posted by: Deep South at January 10, 2012 09:39 PM (fM4AU)

Yep, that's pretty much it.  TN will vote for Obama...to be shot from a giant cannon, aimed at the sun.  This isn't even a very conservative state, when statewide politics are taken into account.  It's just that the national democrat party has moved so far left that he has no chance here, or in other southern states.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 10, 2012 05:43 PM (lJJMb)

874 Why all of a sudden does Romney's mormon faith matter? 
Is there a Baltimore Catechism for the Mormon faith.  You've all made me curious about it and I want to read about it.  I've heard stuff about magic underwear and inbreeding like the Amish since you can only marry a mormon apparently.  I've also heard no alcohol like the lutherans but huntsman had a side table full of beer.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 05:44 PM (oZfic)

875 Why do conservatives hate freedom?

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:45 PM (a1DlD)

876 Country First.
Western Second.

Posted by: comatus at January 10, 2012 05:45 PM (ySTXt)

877 The cute Asian girl in the Citi commercial...wasn't she in Old School?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 05:45 PM (V6fqC)

878 Romney is the king of kings in flip flopping.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:45 PM (a1DlD)

879 Patricia Crone in Slaves and Horses demonstrated the inexorable logic of Islamic statecraft: the Muslim `Abd Allah, the Slave of God, must arm a bunch of his own slaves and trust that they'll not decide to take over. Hilarity inevitably ensues.

Been there, done that.

Posted by: The Mamelukes at January 10, 2012 05:46 PM (HjPtV)

880 947 Romney is the king of kings in flip flopping.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:45 PM (a1DlD)

There is only one King of kings and it isn't Mittens romney.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 05:47 PM (oZfic)

881 944 Why do conservatives hate freedom?

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:45 PM (a1DlD)

We don't...we just hate you, ray.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 10, 2012 05:47 PM (lJJMb)

882 947 Romney is the king of kings in flip flopping.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:45 PM (a1DlD)

And.... ?

Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 05:48 PM (v5FAc)

883 "We don't...we just hate you, ray."

Who the fk is Ray

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:49 PM (a1DlD)

884 Romney is the king of kings in flip flopping.

Right now, flip flopping looks a damn sight better than someone who stands firmly in his beliefs that the country sucks and he must destroy it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:49 PM (piMMO)

885 Yeah, I'm also ready to tender my resignation.

Posted by: Max Power is the Dunning–Kruger effect made flesh at January 10, 2012 05:49 PM (q177U)

886 Still hoping for a Perry comeback.. but.. Romney seems inevitable.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at January 10, 2012 09:45 PM (qjUnn)

uhm, i'm pretty depressed about it, i was hoping for a tough conservative that likes this country.

i had thought this was an election that that might pull us out of the suffering we seemed on a collision course with  .

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 05:50 PM (h+qn8)

887 wait, what?

Posted by: Max Power is the Dunning–Kruger effect made flesh at January 10, 2012 05:50 PM (q177U)

888 Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:49 PM (a1DlD)

You're Ray.  We all got together and decided Bunk was a stupid name, so we're going to call you "Ray."

Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 05:50 PM (v5FAc)

889 ONT up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:51 PM (piMMO)

890 Flip flopper, flip flopper.

Remember all the stupids with their flip flops chanting those incredibly deft words at the convention?

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:51 PM (a1DlD)

891 Chris christie's mentor passed away last night.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 05:52 PM (oZfic)

892 I keed! I keed!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 09:41 PM (piMMO)

Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 05:53 PM (qKEux)

893 959 Flip flopper, flip flopper.

Remember all the stupids with their flip flops chanting those incredibly deft words at the convention?

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:51 PM (a1DlD)

You go, Ray.  Testify.

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:53 PM (smvTK)

894

mpfs at January 10, 2012 09:37 PM

his opponent will be Barak Hussein Obama.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 05:53 PM (GBxvs)

895 959 Flip flopper, flip flopper.

You seem to expecting somebody to contradict this statement.  I'm not sure why.

Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 05:53 PM (v5FAc)

896 Get lost, Bunk.

They prefer my brand of troll.

Posted by: Clarence at January 10, 2012 05:54 PM (z0HdK)

897 Long creepy speech packed with fake enthusiasm from Huntsman with multiple mentions of China. Sigh. What a pod.

Posted by: cackfinger at January 10, 2012 05:54 PM (a9mQu)

898 This was an epic thread for such a small state. It's like every Perry voter left a comment.

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2012 05:54 PM (FcR7P)

899 Stupids, Romney is a flip flopper. Ron Paul has never flip flopped.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:55 PM (a1DlD)

900 Looks like somebody is stunned Rawn Paul didn't run away with this thing tonight.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 05:55 PM (ad7NF)

901 I'm resigned to Romney but I damn sure don't hate him. He can beat Obama, so he's got that going for him. I can't believe how we're tearing down every candidate to a level where none of them might be able to beat Obama. Because the Democrats said a lot of bad shit about him during the primaries that the MBM never saw fit to regurgitate come the general. You think we're getting that favor? Fucking a.


Seriously you people. In a room full of hookers with herpes, Romney's the only one with crabs. If you've got to fuck one of them it's not that hard a choice.


If Romney picks a conservative VP like Rubio, he's basically choosing his successor. Winning in 2012 is just the beginning of a long slog out of this shit. Get it together furfuksake.

Posted by: the dandy at January 10, 2012 05:55 PM (39uXS)

902 Ron Paul has never flip flopped.

That's the problem.

Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 05:56 PM (v5FAc)

903 There was an economist on Batchelor who said he was a "glass half empty" guy and he basically said he feared that mittens would be seduced by the socialism. 

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 05:57 PM (oZfic)

904 i didn't write those articles,  yeah  i hope you read my articles, they are awesome. rp

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 05:57 PM (h+qn8)

905 Ron Paul has never flip flopped.

He'd appear a whole helluva lot more sane if he did!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:57 PM (piMMO)

906 Ron Paul for president

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:57 PM (a1DlD)

907

Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:51 PM

Evening Ray, how's the family?

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 05:58 PM (GBxvs)

908 the dandy i hear ya, but shouldn't it be Romney's job to convince republicans He will do the job they want done?

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 05:59 PM (h+qn8)

909 Hey, believe it or not, there's some guy named Santorum talking right now, on Fox Business.

And there's some other guy named Gingrich who just fired up, too.

Oddly enough (or perhaps not) nobody cares.

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 06:00 PM (smvTK)

910 So Huntsman is a Jack Mormon?

Posted by: Meremortal at January 10, 2012 06:00 PM (Usk3+)

911 Kerry, a war hero, was called a traitor and a flip flopper.

Romney is a fascist and a true flip flopper.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:00 PM (a1DlD)

912 Newt 2012:  Me First

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 06:01 PM (smvTK)

913 968 Stupids, Romney is a flip flopper. Ron Paul has never flip flopped. Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:55 PM (a1DlD) Oh really? How about when he claimed the Bilderbergers control the Fed and the CFR has control over FEMA concentration camps, and 7 years after he said Illuminati are for FEMA and CFR are Fed? How about the time he said Jews want to eat our brains so that they can have blue-Zionist colored excrement which is a super weapon against Iran discovered after Roswell, while 40 years beforehand he claimed the brain eating habit of Jews is their own business and we shouldn't interfere? Not a flip flopper? Yeah, right.

Posted by: January at January 10, 2012 06:02 PM (j9etX)

914 Romney

Flip flopper

Flip flopper

God this country hates flip floppers. Ron Paul for president.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:02 PM (a1DlD)

915 Looks like Romney's going to run the table like Gary Kasparov at the annual Glaucoma Research Foundation chess tournament.

Posted by: Triple Lindy at January 10, 2012 06:03 PM (jiwQf)

916 The only reason we're having such troubles picking a candidate this year is because Cthulhu is sitting it out, this cycle.  (His cousin is already in the White House, of course . . . Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Obama W'shtn wgah'nagl fhtagn.

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 06:04 PM (smvTK)

917 If Romney's ends up IT , He better be ready to take it to the progressive party, and so far I have seen No sign of it.

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 06:05 PM (h+qn8)

918 kerry a war hero,,,,,,, hahahahahaha

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 06:06 PM (h+qn8)

919

Romney is a fascist and a true flip flopper.

Beats the shit out of me.

Posted by: Ron Paul at January 10, 2012 06:06 PM (Usk3+)

920 Reality Check -- A bunch of the Paul vote are Dongs trying to mess up the GOP process via their version of Operation Chaos that Rush pushed to goof Hillary up in 2008. 

Personally, seems like at least for cauci, if not also pure primaries where no other issues are involved (aka no violation of poll tax since it's a party vote not a public vote), there ought to be some requirement that those participating put some skin (aka $$) into the game towards the party of the candidates you vote for in to defray party costs for the election as well as to help promote future party activities.   That would quickly cut down on Crossover Chaos efforts that do little but create greater chasms between the parties.

 It might also help keep deviant losers of the primary process from considering 3rd party runs as their followers would have been tapped for another Party.

Bottomline, radicals of any sort would rarely put out money directly support their opposition -- free is fine, not free is another issue.  

Posted by: drfredc at January 10, 2012 06:07 PM (F9M0P)

921 Who will be in the next debate?  Still haven't watched the last two I was told it would be a colossal waste of time.

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 06:07 PM (oZfic)

922 "Kerry, a war hero, was called a traitor and a flip flopper. Romney is a fascist and a true flip flopper. Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 10:00 PM (a1DlD)" Kerry as war hero? He served four months of a combat tour. He received three Purple Hearts and never spent a day in the infirmary. To his credit, he once commanded three swift boats and directed fire on an enemy position. He's confirmed to have killed one VC. We're not talking Audie Murphy here. He did his job. Romney as fascist? lowut? I'll go with Romney as flip-flopper, but 'fascist'? Walking the tightrope on Godwin's Law on that one. Obama's particular brand of venture socialism and crony capitalism wears the classic Mussolini 'fascist' label far better than Romney.

Posted by: troyriser at January 10, 2012 06:08 PM (YCeSE)

923 Why do the conservatives hate freedom like they do?

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:09 PM (a1DlD)

924 977 the dandy i hear ya, but shouldn't it be Romney's job to convince republicans He will do the job they want done?


Being poised to take back the Senate and drive the agenda through Congress is a check on Romney's liberal leanings the way I look at it. Down ticket races are just as important as winning the White House. If people are going to sit it out over hurt feelings or purity or whatever and not give us a strong majority in the Senate that will let us control what hits his desk, we deserve what we get.

I don't like much about Romney, but I do like that he's not pandering to me.

Posted by: the dandy at January 10, 2012 06:10 PM (39uXS)

925 GOP turnout could be down as much as 40% from 2008, according to Nate Silver. This is the problem if Romney is the nominee. There will be no enthusiasm and no volunteer boots on the ground.

Posted by: Greg at January 10, 2012 06:10 PM (pftd6)

926

Romney is a fascist and a true flip flopper.

Beats the shit out of me.

Posted by: Ron Paul at January 10, 2012 10:06 PM (Usk3+)


Oh come on, at least Romney's not an active, avowed apologists for fascists.  He'll never beat you, sir.

Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 06:11 PM (v5FAc)

927 @: Turnout estimated to be 250,000 for #fitn primary. Up from 241,000 in 2008.


DeMint predicts Romney win in SC

Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 06:11 PM (d6QMz)

928 The rumor was that Palin was supposed to endorse Perry at the same time her hubby endorsed.  What happened?

Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 06:11 PM (oZfic)

929 Being poised to take back the Senate and drive the agenda through Congress is a check on Romney's liberal leanings the way I look at it. Down ticket races are just as important as winning the White House

i agree with this.
nobody is asking to be pandered to here, we just aren't assured He will fight the Rights battles, and He will absolutely Have to.

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 06:12 PM (h+qn8)

930 992 Why do the conservatives hate freedom like they do?

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 10:09 PM (a1DlD)

Seriously, Art, there comes a time when you will have to Embrace The Suck.  Yeah, All Republicans Suck.  Democrats Suck More.  Libertarians are objectively (sic) correct but are utterly clueless when it actually comes to politics.  Hence, The Suck.  We Are So Screwed.

Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 06:12 PM (smvTK)

931 987 kerry a war hero,,,,,,, hahahahahaha

It's true.  I commanded a daring expedition to retake Boston Harbor in 2004.

Posted by: Senator Lurch at January 10, 2012 06:12 PM (ad7NF)

932 994 GOP turnout could be down as much as 40% from 2008, according to Nate Silver. This is the problem if Romney is the nominee. There will be no enthusiasm and no volunteer boots on the ground.
Posted by: Greg at January 10, 2012 10:10 PM (pftd6)

And there won't be a wave either.

Posted by: Also Greg at January 10, 2012 06:13 PM (ad7NF)

933 "I'll go with Romney as flip-flopper, but 'fascist'?"

Romney loves the military, although never having served, he loves big business and it's power over government, and uses the courts and will use the police to enforce its dictates.

Walks like a fascist, talks like a fascist, must be a fascist.

Ron Paul for president.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:15 PM (a1DlD)

934 999 992 Why do the conservatives hate freedom like they do?

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 10:09 PM (a1DlD)

Seriously, Art, there comes a time when you will have to Embrace The Suck.  Yeah, All Republicans Suck.  Democrats Suck More.


The Democrats love freedom except if it involves your wallet or foreigners.  There's nothing a Democrat hates more than the U.S. exerting time, money, and men to make foreigners free.

Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 06:16 PM (v5FAc)

935 nobody is asking to be pandered to here, we just aren't assured He will fight the Rights battles, and He will absolutely Have to.


I honestly wasn't implying you or others want to be pandered to, what I meant by that was what Newt, Perry and Huntsman are doing right now is pandering. What baffles me is who they are pandering to. They've basically forced me into the Romney column because I can forgive a lot of blue state foibles that a conservative Congress won't let him repeat, but I will never forgive those three for what they are saying now.

Posted by: the dandy at January 10, 2012 06:18 PM (39uXS)

936

Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 10:11 PM (v5FAc)

May we have a word with you?

Posted by: Stormfront at January 10, 2012 06:18 PM (Usk3+)

937 "U.S. exerting time, money, and men to make foreigners free."

They need to learn to take care of themselves...

Isnt that what freedom is all about, taking care of your self and not depending on others?

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:19 PM (a1DlD)

938 Romney loves the military, although never having served, he loves big business and it's power over government, and uses the courts and will use the police to enforce its dictates.

Yeah, but at least he's not an apologist for actual fascists...I mean avowed self-declared fascists, like your guy.

(I realize you're actually an Obama supporter, not a Paul guy, but let's pretend.  Given Obama's anxiety over us attacking the Baathists, that also doesn't help him that much.)

Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 06:20 PM (v5FAc)

939 "Walks like a fascist, talks like a fascist, must be a fascist. Ron Paul for president. Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 10:15 PM (a1DlD)" Ron Paul hates Jews, calls blacks 'animals', takes money from white supremacist Stormfront types, and believes an Zionist cabal of international bankers headed by the Jewish Rothschild family cause all wars everywhere. Sound familiar? Eine Reich,eine Volk, eine Paul.

Posted by: troyriser at January 10, 2012 06:20 PM (YCeSE)

940 Little ones, lets all learn to take care of ourselves. The day of big brother protecting us is over.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:22 PM (a1DlD)

941 Why do conservatives love war as they do?

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:23 PM (a1DlD)

942 C'mon, we need an 80 year old President!

Posted by: Bonk at January 10, 2012 06:24 PM (Usk3+)

943 "Ron Paul hates Jews, calls blacks 'animals', takes money from white supremacist Stormfront types, and believes an Zionist cabal of international bankers headed by the Jewish Rothschild family cause all wars everywhere. Sound familiar?"

YOU LIE

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:24 PM (a1DlD)

944 They need to learn to take care of themselves...

Isnt that what freedom is all about, taking care of your self and not depending on others?


Response 1.) I dunno, ask the French during the American Revolution.

Response 2.) Yeah, freedom's all about doing whatever the guy who has a gun to your head tells you to do...as long as he's a local guy, not a foreigner.

Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 06:24 PM (v5FAc)

945 Why do conservatives love war as they do?

It solves everything.

Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 06:25 PM (v5FAc)

946 Ron Paul seems to genuinely respect Willard, and actively help him. WTF?!

Posted by: phil at January 10, 2012 06:25 PM (vNnRI)

947 Bunk, if that's true there is no need for a president, it is actually one of their jobs.

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 06:25 PM (h+qn8)

948 "1011 C'mon, we need an 80 year old President!"

We all live longer, think about Dear Leader Ronny 20 years ago.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:26 PM (a1DlD)

949 o heck with it, i'm going to go read a fluff book.

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 06:26 PM (h+qn8)

950 I know in my heart Jeebus does not like conservatives.

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:30 PM (a1DlD)

951 YOU LIE Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 10:24 PM (a1DlD) Er, no, I don't. Check out the July 28, 2011 archived article in the online version of American Thinker. Paul's took $500 from Don Black, founder of Stormfront website. According to American Thinker, "As of November 11 [2011]--the Ron Paul donation link is still up and active on Stormfront." This contribution is public record and has also been documented by, among others, Michael Medved, MSNBC, and Lone Star Times. Paul's newsletters and solicitation letters speak directly to his animus towards Jews and black people. Paul was extensively featured in Alex Jones' documentary, 'Endgame', the plot of which focuses on a supposed plot by 'Zionist bankers' and Bilderbergers to extirpate 80% of the world's population and establish themselves as our genetically and technologically enhanced, near-immortal overlords. And so on. So no, I'm not lying. Your guy is a drooling bigot.

Posted by: troyriser at January 10, 2012 06:38 PM (YCeSE)

952 777 Rick Perry is the 1%. Sob. We're drinking, and it's only tuesday!

Posted by: poljunkie at January 10, 2012 07:24 PM (XuiJf)

953 942 Why all of a sudden does Romney's mormon faith matter? 
Is there a Baltimore Catechism for the Mormon faith.  You've all made me curious about it and I want to read about it.  I've heard stuff about magic underwear and inbreeding like the Amish since you can only marry a mormon apparently.  I've also heard no alcohol like the lutherans but huntsman had a side table full of beer.
Posted by: sally may

No catechism.  You can go here for a very basic explanation of what Mormons believe: 
http://mormon.org/faq/ 
Its *very* basic, but it does cover most of the basic stuff.
Here are the Mormon Articles of Faith, although they're not exactly a full catechism or anything:
http://tinyurl.com/2asrxrv

I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can.
Mormons who've been to the Mormon temple wear special underclothing that reminds us of our covenants with God.  We call them 'garments,' short for 'temple garments.'  There are Mormon urban legends about people not being injured while wearing them, which is probably where the stuff about them being "magic" comes from.
Mormons have a unique form of marriage in the Mormon temples that is "time and eternity" instead of "till death do us part."  Its only for Mormons marrying Mormons.  Otherwise Mormons can marry anybody in a regular wedding ceremony in the church.  I just attended a regular Mormon 'till death do you part' wedding last week.  Probably about 1/3 to 1/2 of believing Mormons get married in the temples.  Mormons have a high conversion rate and there are probably a few million believing Mormons in the US anyway, so inbreeding isn't a problem.
Committed mormons don't drink alcohol.  You can't go to the temple if you do, for instance, and just as a sociological matter it would be pretty unlikely for a regular church-going Mormon to drink.  Huntsman is ambivalent about being a Mormon and has stated that he has the occasional glass of wine.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Non-Christian for Jesus at January 10, 2012 08:02 PM (baC5d)

954 Why do conservatives love war as they do?

Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 10:23 PM (a1DlD)

My response: They don't love war Ray. They just know that the world doesn't revolve around Ron Paul's fantasies. There are countries and individuals that intend to do the US serious harm and we learned the lesson of WWII. Isolationism in this day and age is ignorance compounded with stupidity and topped with denial.

Posted by: Big Al at January 10, 2012 08:33 PM (UWp/G)

955 RAWN PAWL!!!1! is the only candidate in this race who will put an End to War and embrace Liberty! And Freedom!

And by Liberty, I mean keepin' The Man from hasslin' me when I wanna get a noseful, you know?

Stupid cons, with your Bible and low opinion of strung-out druggie freaks!

RAWN PAWL!!!1!: The Only True Conservative running!

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