January 10, 2012
— Ace I predict Romney wins and Paul comes in second.
Hack blogger, indeed.
Yeah... So Romney won, as expected.
In New Hampshire, they're looking at electability, which is fine, but I just don't know if Romney's as electable as people seem to think.
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Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:32 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 10, 2012 02:32 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:32 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Jerry at January 10, 2012 02:33 PM (fOmkv)
Posted by: kathysaysso at January 10, 2012 02:34 PM (ZtwUX)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 10, 2012 02:34 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 02:35 PM (i6RpT)
If this is just Newt being Newt, how do the other candidates explain themselves?
Posted by: Dumas at January 10, 2012 02:35 PM (0DSBL)
I'm going to think about canning apricots.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 10, 2012 02:35 PM (BhuDE)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2012 02:38 PM (XE2Oo)
Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:38 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Karl Rove's Encephalopathic Brain at January 10, 2012 02:38 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 02:38 PM (zLeKL)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 10, 2012 02:38 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: Ron+Rombot at January 10, 2012 02:39 PM (dHqot)
Posted by: Rich K at January 10, 2012 02:39 PM (X4l3T)
Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 06:38 PM (iYbLN)
That forget, Pepperridge Farm remembers.... They always remember...
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 10, 2012 02:39 PM (GaIwz)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 02:39 PM (hiMsy)
Posted by: January at January January at January January at January January at January at January 10, 2012 02:39 PM (j9etX)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 10, 2012 02:39 PM (YeIP1)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2012 02:40 PM (0yt4x)
Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 02:40 PM (FcKXR)
That forget, Pepperridge Farm remembers.... They always remember...
I'm going full Lutheran. Shortbread Cookies and white cake!!!!
Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:40 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:41 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 02:41 PM (zLeKL)
I'm going to think about canning apricots.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 10, 2012 06:35 PM (BhuDE)
What proof have you that they are human? Out with it!
Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 02:41 PM (FcKXR)
2If Perry does badly I fear I shall sacrifice myself on my trident this evening.
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No no no. Don't do that. .....New Hampshire is hardly a bellweather state. It only has a handful of delegates, and a small number of electoral votes.
Sometimes the winner of NH goes on to become the nominee.....sometimes they don't. .....So I am still hoping for a Perry comeback.
Posted by: wheatie at January 10, 2012 02:42 PM (oPkw3)
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 02:42 PM (1PXIb)
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 10, 2012 02:43 PM (hUM6f)
Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 02:43 PM (FcKXR)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 06:41 PM (zLeKL)
And damn polite in the dark as well.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 02:43 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 02:43 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: wheatie at January 10, 2012 06:42 PM (oPkw3)
I'm waiting for the Edsel to make a comeback
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 10, 2012 02:45 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 06:42 PM (1PXIb)
Iowa does not hate New Hampshire, You are on your own.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 02:45 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Rick Fucking Perry at January 10, 2012 02:46 PM (lVGED)
Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 06:32 PM (iYbLN)
Iowa has 28 delegates
New Hampshire has 12 delegates
Texas has 155 delegates.
And I think Iowa and New Hampshire are proportioned.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 10, 2012 02:46 PM (GaIwz)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 10, 2012 02:46 PM (YeIP1)
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 06:42 PM (1PXIb)
Iowa does not hate New Hampshire, You are on your own.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 06:45 PM (HBqDo)
fixed!
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 02:46 PM (1PXIb)
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 10, 2012 02:47 PM (hUM6f)
Poor Steve.
Posted by: Mike in CFL at January 10, 2012 02:47 PM (motsG)
Posted by: nickless at January 10, 2012 02:47 PM (/McNP)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 02:47 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 06:35 PM (i6RpT)
And the semi-closed ones as well.
Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 02:48 PM (qKEux)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 02:48 PM (i6RpT)
And you can keep your damn Hickory Farms crap too!
Pssst! Ohio.
Posted by: fluffySorry. My bad.
Well, you know what I mean.
Are those two old codgers who sell wine coolers from NH?
Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:48 PM (iYbLN)
I predict Romney wins and Huntsman takes second. Then I predict Romney wins the nod and selects Huntsman as his Vice.
Then I predict we get 4 more of Obama, cause the way it looks right now, we are cutting each other's own throat, and when the election comes, too many of us will be butt hurt about what happend to "our" candidates and either we stay home, or the media ceases on the talking point we created for them.
Obviously....I've lost hope....and I am mister negativity today, and if you don't like it....well then K.M.A.
Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 02:49 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: nickless at January 10, 2012 02:50 PM (/McNP)
Posted by: Frightened Democracy Supporter at January 10, 2012 02:50 PM (jiwQf)
Posted by: nickless at January 10, 2012 06:47 PM (/McNP)
Au contraire, mon ami, vous avez omis de considérer la très importante voter sans papiers des travailleurs du Québec!
Posted by: frog went a courtin' at January 10, 2012 02:50 PM (FcKXR)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 02:51 PM (i6RpT)
I predict Romney wins and Huntsman takes second. Then I predict Romney wins the nod and selects Huntsman as his Vice.
Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 06:49 PM (JMsOK)
Huntsman? No way. Willard will take McCains advice and pick a woman from Alaska to energize the base. But maybe Murcowsky will decline.
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 02:52 PM (1PXIb)
Posted by: IC at January 10, 2012 02:53 PM (jZNCU)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 02:53 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 06:48 PM (iYbLN)
Bartles and James? Those old codgers were marketing fronts for Gallo Wineries out of Alta California.
Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 02:53 PM (FcKXR)
Bartles and Jaymes? Posted by: Empire of Jeff
Yeah, that's it. Are those asswipes from NH? If so I'm gunning for them and the cookies too.
Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:53 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: no good deed at January 10, 2012 02:54 PM (mjR67)
Posted by: Byte Mie!
Well they look New Hampshirest to me!
Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:54 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 02:54 PM (/VmDe)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 06:51 PM (i6RpT)
He will if it looks like Utah is wavering!
Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 02:55 PM (FcKXR)
Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 02:55 PM (iYbLN)
It's the Dynel toupee. You can't take your eyes off it.
Posted by: huerfano at January 10, 2012 02:55 PM (lXi+d)
Posted by: chemjeff at January 10, 2012 06:51 PM (7FadD)
We'll explain later just get yourself a gun and get qualified pronto.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 02:56 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 02:56 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 02:56 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: alexthechick at January 10, 2012 02:57 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 02:58 PM (hiMsy)
Posted by: Rick Perry at January 10, 2012 02:58 PM (ad7NF)
Posted by: soothie at January 10, 2012 02:58 PM (j7IJ7)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 02:58 PM (oZfic)
He will if it looks like Utah is wavering!
The way things have been going Utah may just start wavering. This is such a smuckfest of a primary.
Posted by: Sub-Tard at January 10, 2012 02:58 PM (ursbV)
Posted by: no good deed at January 10, 2012 02:59 PM (mjR67)
Luntz tells his gathered throng that Governor Perry is George W. Bush “without the intellect.” Then, upon discovering that there are cameras present, his demeanor suddenly shifts and he makes a sheepish attempt to play it off as though he’s “just messin’ with you guys” before ordering the person shooting the footage to “take your suit and leave.”
Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 02:59 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 02:59 PM (FcKXR)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:00 PM (niZvt)
Yes, indeedy deed, you are just jealous you aren't me. It's also possible that I took some cold meds and am about to faceplant on my keyadhjfa;lhfa;sldhj
Posted by: alexthechick at January 10, 2012 03:00 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: soothie at January 10, 2012 03:01 PM (j7IJ7)
Posted by: Shiggz at January 10, 2012 03:01 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 03:01 PM (40rE+)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:01 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 03:01 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 06:59 PM (5H6zj)
Never like him. The Jerry Springer of politics. His Thanksgiving debate was repugnant.
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 03:02 PM (1PXIb)
Posted by: Association of Goal Post Movers at January 10, 2012 03:02 PM (ad7NF)
Posted by: no good deed at January 10, 2012 03:02 PM (mjR67)
What does the media love more than polishing dem knob? That's right making conservatives feel like SH*T. People can't fall and be crushed if they aren't willing to climb the stairs first.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 03:02 PM (0q2P7)
Think about it....after the shit that's has been thrown around over the past couple of weeks you think Romney is gonna pick Gingrich? Paul? Perry?Santorum? as his runningmate. Hell No...It's gonna be Huntsman, and I'll tell you why.
Because it looks like to me, that Romney is running for moderate Democrats and Independents who already left Obama long ago. He is gambling that Conservatives are voting Republican regardless.......and he knows that Huntsman is who all the sissy Democrats and Independents want.
Hell he locks up a good number of disinfranchised Democrats a chunk of Independents....and he can't lose the general. The only problem for him now is, that he has to figure out how to win us back during the general.
You know how many Conservatives that is gonna piss off just in principle? Could backfire!
God I hate NorthEasters....you people suck! Especially you Romney!
Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 03:03 PM (JMsOK)
Like they say about Huntsman in China
Nǐ tà i chéngsè yÃngdé
Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at January 10, 2012 03:03 PM (zgwWv)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 03:03 PM (Ec6wH)
It is more a wish than a prediction but Romney and Huntsman tie for first place. Just because.
Posted by: snowcrash at January 10, 2012 03:03 PM (w3YD7)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 10, 2012 03:04 PM (tCDfu)
Posted by: alexthechick at January 10, 2012 07:00 PM (Gk3SS)
I guess someone should have told you that Lortabs and anti-histamines don't mix well.
Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 03:04 PM (/VmDe)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 03:04 PM (i6RpT)
They said Mitt has to win by 32 or above. They didn't explain why 32 but I've heard several use those numbers.
YES! YES! We are all individuals!!
Posted by: I'm not at January 10, 2012 03:04 PM (O6q63)
I will no longer ride 120mph for Perry.
Posted by: Ducatisti at January 10, 2012 03:05 PM (KYE7u)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 03:05 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Some Fat Guy at January 10, 2012 03:05 PM (oxgwp)
When there already are folks squeamish about it, doubling down on Mormon would be epically dumb.
Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 03:05 PM (FcKXR)
31 percent in 2008
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 03:06 PM (40rE+)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 10, 2012 03:07 PM (lVGED)
Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 06:53 PM (iYbLN)
Classic episode!
Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 06:58 PM (qKEux)
I tried like hell to find the quote but got lost:
Elaine: Do you believe in God?
Puddy: Yeah...
Elaine: Is it a problem for you that I'm not religious?
Puddy: No.
Elaine: Why not?
Puddy: I'm not the one going to hell.
Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 03:08 PM (qKEux)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 07:03 PM (Ec6wH)
Flash back to playing "Hi Bob" while watching Newhart on FEN (Forced Entertainment Network) on Okinawa.
Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at January 10, 2012 03:08 PM (zgwWv)
Posted by: soothie at January 10, 2012 07:07 PM (vzLhi)
IT'S A BIG WIDE WONDERFUL WORLD WE LIVE IN!
Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 03:09 PM (/VmDe)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:09 PM (niZvt)
I have much confidence in the people to choose Romney.
Posted by: Jimmah at January 10, 2012 03:09 PM (TMeYE)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 10, 2012 07:07 PM (lVGED)
Nah. Like the MFM, we're quite adept at pulling numbers out of our heads. Or asses. And our quality assurance measures are superior (or so I've been led to believe).
Posted by: Byte Mie! at January 10, 2012 03:10 PM (FcKXR)
Posted by: Rick Perry at January 10, 2012 03:10 PM (ad7NF)
Posted by: John Galt at January 10, 2012 03:10 PM (80GjT)
@125
I hear you, but have you disgussed this with your local Lefty lately. Go find one and talk about this. I'm telling you they all want Huntsman....the mormon crap never even comes up in the conversation.
Romney goes with a no-name? Hell......that's more risky than Huntsman. Place your bets Romney/Huntsman 2012
Am I the only one noticing that the only people those two aren't attacking are each other? God I'm pissed that this has scewed this direction. Where's the nearest Value-Rite Vodka store?
Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 03:10 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: Joffen at January 10, 2012 03:10 PM (zLeKL)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:11 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 07:10 PM (U1GWm)
Wait your damn turn you comatose son of a bitch.
Posted by: Anita Perry at January 10, 2012 03:12 PM (ad7NF)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 03:12 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 03:12 PM (U1GWm)
Posted by: Rick Perry at January 10, 2012 03:12 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: The NEW Mitt Romney, Hipper and Down With the Kids at January 10, 2012 03:13 PM (lVGED)
Posted by: Joffen at January 10, 2012 07:10 PM (zLeKL)
Pffft...is that all? I've gone full on Tourettes.
Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 03:13 PM (X6akg)
Thanks for inviting me to the wake, y'all.
Posted by: Emperor of NotRickMittJonNewtRick at January 10, 2012 03:13 PM (epBek)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 03:13 PM (40rE+)
Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 03:14 PM (U1GWm)
Have you seen her recently? I think she may be a little long in the tooth to be menstruating. I'm guessing she's more into the estrogen cream and maybe a bit of testosterone for a jump-start for her libido.
Needless to say, I objectify all women.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 10, 2012 03:14 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Rick Perry at January 10, 2012 03:14 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Joffen at January 10, 2012 07:10 PM (zLeKL)
Your right eye should tell your left eye that this is only NH.
Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 03:14 PM (/VmDe)
#59, Romney picks Huntsman as Veep,
I know this has been a discouraging election but its a bit early in the day for delirium tremens. The All Mo ticket just isn't going to happen.
Posted by: Emperor of NotRickMittJonNewtRick at January 10, 2012 03:15 PM (epBek)
Posted by: Joffen at January 10, 2012 03:15 PM (zLeKL)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 03:15 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 07:12 PM (Ec6wH)
It's a start. Now, throw in some emo vampires and we'll toss $$$ your way for the screenplay like Barky supporting "green industries"!
Posted by: Hollywood, desparately seeking something, anything, new at January 10, 2012 03:15 PM (FcKXR)
Posted by: Racefan at January 10, 2012 03:15 PM (BoG0J)
Posted by: Rick Perry at January 10, 2012 03:16 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 10, 2012 03:16 PM (PddVe)
Posted by: I am the walrus, goo-goo-ga-joo at January 10, 2012 03:16 PM (ybkwK)
@166
O.K. you'll probably right, but do you not see the "Oh Shit....we are F'd" moment coming our direction, all because Romney always likes to play patty cake with the Left?
Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 03:16 PM (JMsOK)
A Tea Party Conservative from the South would balance the Romney ticket, but he will probably pick Chris Christie.
Posted by: snowcrash at January 10, 2012 03:16 PM (w3YD7)
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 10, 2012 07:14 PM (kUd5w)
No, but we could start praying for nuclear war.
Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 03:17 PM (/VmDe)
Just pundits and political operatives scratching each others back to make a living while promoting a long running charade.
The only thing that really matters is who won the all important Dixville Notch Classic.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 03:17 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 03:17 PM (1PXIb)
OK, after checking Drudge, I'll bite and pay attention to this train wreck.
DRUDGE READERS IN SC VOTE:
PAUL: 28%
ROMNEY: 22%
SANTORUM
22%
GINGRICH 16%
PERRY 6%
Posted by: Jimmah at January 10, 2012 03:18 PM (TMeYE)
Posted by: Joffen at January 10, 2012 07:10 PM (zLeKL)
Clouseau's mad boss, ex-Commissioner Charles Dreyfus developed one of those...
Posted by: Pink Panther at January 10, 2012 03:18 PM (tCDfu)
Posted by: Y-not
As soon as I saw who posted this, I interpreted "really thoughtful" as "ripping on Romney and making excuses for Gingrich and Perry."
Follow the link and . . . yep.
Posted by: Emperor of NotRickMittJonNewtRick at January 10, 2012 03:18 PM (epBek)
I asked a buddy of mine if his Southern Baptist brother-in-law would vote for a Mormon. He said no fu#cking way.
WTF can we do?
Posted by: sTevo at January 10, 2012 03:18 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:19 PM (niZvt)
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Then don't follow the link, chump.
Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 03:19 PM (5H6zj)
"The All Mormon ticket just isn't going to happen"
Look.....I hope you right, but I'm sorry...please explain to me why. The way I read this at this point in time, is Huntsman is the only guy Romney can pick. He is not gonna pick a No-Name, and he sure isn't going to pick the other four.
He could pick a No Name, but it had better be one hell of a No Name and I just don't see it.
Crazier things have happend! We are so screwed!
Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 03:21 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 03:22 PM (zLeKL)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:22 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 10, 2012 03:22 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: John Galt
Looks like someone has been snorting Mitt until his septum dissolved.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 03:22 PM (epBek)
No, but we could start praying for nuclear war.
Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 07:17 PM (/VmDe)
It is a sign of the times when I can read such a post, and actually have to wonder if it is in earnest, or is a joke, and if I am just that bloody dense.
We live in such times.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 10, 2012 03:23 PM (kUd5w)
Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 07:21 PM (JMsOK)
Willard isnt charismatic enough to not play identity politics. He will have to pick a woman or some ethnic minority.
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 03:23 PM (1PXIb)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 03:24 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Phoning It In at January 10, 2012 03:24 PM (lVGED)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 03:24 PM (zLeKL)
Posted by: Bob Undead Saget at January 10, 2012 03:25 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: observer at January 10, 2012 03:25 PM (H5DVj)
>>Hey, it means the right eye is the one that's clear and steady. Or something.
Oh.
Carry on, then.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 10, 2012 03:25 PM (XdlcF)
Two Mormons on the same ticket?? I don't think so.
Posted by: jeanne! at January 10, 2012 03:25 PM (bEnlY)
@207...you may have something there. The Mormon and the Gorgon.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 03:25 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: John at January 10, 2012 03:26 PM (BBlzg)
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Then don't follow the link, chump.
Posted by: Y-not
If you don't want me to follow your link, don't wink at me like that.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 03:26 PM (epBek)
Posted by: Willy at January 10, 2012 03:26 PM (PlLjX)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 03:26 PM (zLeKL)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 03:26 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 07:24 PM (zLeKL)
Ya' know. I would have laughed at you just but a month ago. Now........
Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 03:26 PM (/VmDe)
Posted by: Marmo an Iowanian at January 10, 2012 03:27 PM (pcgW1)
We should all thank Ace for having a blog where wishcasting is not only allowed, but encouraged.
How bad would it be if our comments about our favorite candidates were met with Miki Brzezinski eye rolls and exasperated sighs? How depressing would it be if post after post were filled with conservatives spouting left wing distortions and mischaracterizations about the person we feel would be good for the country?
Yes, weÂ’re a lucky bunch.
Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 03:27 PM (FdndL)
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Huntsman is pretty much a no-name. And he hates Mitt. Personally hates him. He has been attacking Mitt, you've just missed the attacks, apparently.
And he brings nothing to the ticket. People appear to not care about foreign affairs experience this time -- and Huntsman's is more business-flavored anyway, not military, so it's not additive. So you'd just have two similar demeanor rich guys from wealthy, important families who each served about one term as governor (Huntsman was I think shy of 5 years when he went to work for Bambi).
Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 03:27 PM (5H6zj)
I can't stop laughing Stewie
This place is fucking hilarious.
I really can't stop Holy Crap
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 03:27 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2012 03:28 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: jeanne! at January 10, 2012 03:28 PM (bEnlY)
The Roman Catholic Church's hold over American catholics is virtually nonexistent. But the Mormon Church is incredibly top-down and controlling. Whether Romney is particularly devout is up to some question, though. I suspect most politicians are pretty much self-worshipers who give lip service to a religion only.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:28 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 03:28 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 03:28 PM (zLeKL)
How exactly do you explain Glenn Beck and Harry Reid both being part of it then?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 03:29 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 03:29 PM (zLeKL)
Posted by: Clarence at January 10, 2012 03:30 PM (z0HdK)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:30 PM (niZvt)
Exit polls show 72% of voters "openly weeping" after casting their ballot, another 16% "crying inside"
Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 03:30 PM (5H6zj)
Hey now...I'm watching you, bub.
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 07:28 PM (zLeKL)
YouÂ’reÂ…youÂ’reÂ…alive!
Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 03:30 PM (FdndL)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 03:30 PM (Ec6wH)
Well I suppose I can't really guarantee the future, but I'll call it a one in a million chance. If that. No upside.
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 03:31 PM (Qjh0I)
The way I read this at this point in time, is Huntsman is the only guy Romney can pick. He is not gonna pick a No-Name, and he sure isn't going to pick the other four.
The truth is that the Veep doesn't matter that much. They just have to be plausible and not distract from the top of the ticket. Actually adding to the ticket is a bonus but doesn't really matter that much.
So why wouldn't he pick one of the other four? He won't pick Paul or Gingrich, but Perry or Santorum would be fine. This campaign stuff is never quite as personal as it seems.
And what about Christie, Rubio, Jindal, Pawlenty, Haley, Paul Ryan, Daniels, Susana Martinez, Thune . . . is No Name? They vary in their degree of name recognition but they're all plausible. They're not nobodies. And that doesn't even exhaust the list.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 03:31 PM (epBek)
Here is the other thing!
If the media wants Huntsman...which they do....then how many people are actually going to know Huntsman is a Mormon as well?
Don't let the moderate Left fool you, many are just as scared of another 4 of Obama as us, but they just want to pretend they are gunning for Obama for the cocktail parties while pooping on Conservatives. They know better than anybody that Obama is killing the Democratic Party and they have got to get him out and stop the bleeding, they just aren't going to admit that in public.
Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 03:31 PM (JMsOK)
The second part of my post that you didn't quote, about politicians being self serving and only nominally part of a religion.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:32 PM (r4wIV)
so he's gonna pick a guy like Christie
Posted by: chemjeff at January 10, 2012 07:30 PM (7FadD)
IÂ’m not too sure Mitt needs help with Northwestern moderates.
Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 03:32 PM (FdndL)
Posted by: Mitt Romney : Human at January 10, 2012 03:32 PM (lVGED)
Posted by: Les Miles at January 10, 2012 03:32 PM (ad7NF)
7:27 p.m. ET – With 1% of the precincts reporting, Romney has received 38% followed by Paul with 23%, Huntsman with 16%, Gingrich with 12%, Santorum with 10% and Perry with 0%.
Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 03:33 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 03:33 PM (/VmDe)
Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 03:33 PM (U1GWm)
Posted by: The Dog Walker at January 10, 2012 03:33 PM (niW49)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:33 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 03:34 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: chemjeff
At the very least Romney is making the Obamites very nervous about the possibility of a Christie Veep nod. He's a nightmare for people who survive by spin and fancy talkin'.
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 03:34 PM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: sTevo at January 10, 2012 03:34 PM (VMcEw)
Buddy Roemer is ahead of Rick W. Perry in early returns.
But Rick is creaming “Rounding Error” by a wide margin.
Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 03:34 PM (FdndL)
Bush 41 proved you don't want a VP that has more charisma - thus Quayle.
Romney/Pawlenty ---- heart be still!
Posted by: Clarence at January 10, 2012 03:34 PM (z0HdK)
Posted by: Bob Undead Saget at January 10, 2012 07:25 PM (dBvlk)
Kennedy's Catholicisim was very much an issue, as it should have been. It's a genuine question as to whether his foreign policy directives would be influenced by the Vatican. Late in Johnson's term, the Pope was openly critical of U.S. policy in Vietnam. Would it have influenced JFK's choices? Maybe. Is that a bad thing? I don't know, maybe not.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 10, 2012 03:34 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: Jose at January 10, 2012 03:35 PM (srIqv)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:35 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 03:35 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 07:34 PM (oZfic)
Thats from 2008...
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 03:35 PM (1PXIb)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Uh-huh. Did you know that the Chief Mormon Elder of Prophident totally ordered me to write this comment calling you a lackwit, lying tool?
True story.
That's how I know he's inspired.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 03:36 PM (epBek)
Posted by: nickless at January 10, 2012 03:36 PM (/McNP)
Posted by: Meghan McCain at January 10, 2012 07:11 PM (nEUpB)
Meggie, I will pick you if we can get an emoticon of privacy.
Posted by: Some Fat Guy at January 10, 2012 03:36 PM (oxgwp)
Posted by: Clarence at January 10, 2012 03:36 PM (ad7NF)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 03:36 PM (zLeKL)
Thats from 2008...
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 07:35 PM (1PXIb)
Interesting. My lib/dem friend is sending it around like it happened today. I guess I will respond now.
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 03:37 PM (oZfic)
So is her handbag, but don't mention it or she'll be just mortified!
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 03:37 PM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 10, 2012 03:37 PM (lVGED)
"And what about Christie, Rubio, Jindal, Pawlenty, Haley, Paul Ryan, Daniels, Susana Martinez, Thune . . . is No Name? They vary in their degree of name recognition but they're all plausible"
They aren't No-Name to us, but to 99% of the country they are. Christie is out, so is Rubio, so is Ryan unless you beleive they were bluffing.
And I have seen the power puff attacks from Huntsman on Romney....I'm telling you, those two are not enemies of each other.
Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 03:37 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: snowcrash at January 10, 2012 03:37 PM (w3YD7)
136 We shall add your ideological distinctiveness to our own.
Resistance is futile.
Launch the drones.
Begin the assimilation.
Resist this!
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at January 10, 2012 03:37 PM (1hM1d)
I've been talking to the right people, and don't count me out as a potential VP candidate. I'm ready for to be vetted.
Posted by: COD at January 10, 2012 03:38 PM (TkGkA)
Nah, they had a new prophecy in the 70s that announced now blacks can get into heaven. LIke the earlier one that erased Joseph Smith's insistence that there were people living on the moon wearing puritan clothing.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:38 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 03:39 PM (zLeKL)
If Romney wins, his smart move would be a more conservative-friendly choice
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 07:33 PM (r4wIV)
Mitt would need to fill the hole, so he needs someone with Tea Party credibility. He needs someone from the south or Midwest and someone who is good on the attack.
He should get down and blow Rubio in an attempt to convince him to be VP, but failing that, there are others.
Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 03:40 PM (FdndL)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 03:40 PM (Qjh0I)
Seale concluded that “the time has come for black people to arm themselves against this terror before it is too late. The pending Mulford Act brings the hour of doom one step nearer.” With that, the Panthers marched with their weapons through the front doors of the statehouse and into the viewing area of the Assembly chamber. Carrying loaded guns into the Capitol building was perfectly legal—until three months later, when Gov. Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford bill into law.
In other words, Reagan was largely responsible for the onerous CA laws on firearms that exist to this day. Now for dissing Reagan in any way shape or form, I shall set fire to my sword and fall on a bush. Something like that.
It's an interesting review. The book title is Gunfight: The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America, by Adam Winkler.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 10, 2012 03:40 PM (BhuDE)
They aren't No-Name to us, but to 99% of the country they are. Christie is out, so is Rubio, so is Ryan unless you beleive they were bluffing.
Posted by: Stewie
Joe Biden wasn't a household name. Somehow Obama managed to stumble to victory.
Once the Veep gets picked, they *become* a household name. Ever heard of Palin? Sarah Palin?
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 03:40 PM (epBek)
Nah, it just means he's eager to move on to his next job and jumped the gun in picking a candidate he thought would be most likely to help him get out of Louisiana.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 03:40 PM (ad7NF)
I am working from the position that Romney doesn't need Conservatives. He knows he is getting "X"% regardless. If you pay attention he is not campaigning to us, he campaigning to the Left of us, which means he may go even farther left during the general.
I don't believe support for Obama is as strong as many think.
Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 03:41 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at January 10, 2012 07:39 PM (hXJOG)
Perry wont accept. Romney can do something like that, but Perry holds grudges.
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 03:42 PM (1PXIb)
Aaaah have a dream that Mitt Romney looks like he's been kicked in the stomach, as he beats Jon Huntsman by 27--22, with Santorum getting 21, Paul 15, and Gingrich 14...Perry...Don't ask!
Aaaah have a dream this evening...
Aaahh have a dream that, as the pack moves to South Carolina, the state of the majestic palmettos and awesome fireworks and legally shooting deer from the roadsides, that those rooock-ribbed sons of the South will have a desperate huddle, and they will concluuuude, in their conSIDered, plenary, joint and several wisdom:
That Mitt Romney must NOT be allowed to take the Palmetto State;...AND...
That Newt Gingrich's latest flirtation with watery Marxism has proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that he cannot and will never shake his genius for political self-destruction; AND...
That Senator Santorum, for all his qualifications, has never shown the organizational strength to support a national campaign versus a RINO...AND...
That this nation of conservatives MUST have a full-throated champion to carry the fight to that soft-handed plastic-smiled weathervane...AND...that South Carolina must and shall make its maaaark!
Aaaah have a dream this evening!! That these South Carolina patriots, the sons of Coleman porters and the sons of engineers, scions of slaves and slaveholders, children of plenty and children of poverty, that these humble agents of awesome history shall march forth and unite their votes behind one man who shall rocket out of their primary like one of those majestic Roman candles we love to purchase there!
Aaah have a dream this evening!!
Maaah friends, I said before, "DON'T ASK!!" about Governor Perry of Texas...because, from this day forward, he shall be anointed, like King David, the conservative champion here on this historic soil!! From Charleston to Spartanburg, from Anderson to Myrtle Beach, from the piedmont to the palmettos, the conservative citizens of this state shall rise from the primordial swamp and push forward a shining warrior worthy of those conservative worthies across our blessed nation!!
Maaah friends, be not faint of heart!! Put behind you the kookiness of Iowa, and the corruption of New Hampshire! Forget about the low swinishness of those media provocateurs--their fateful day of reckoning is coming soon, and they know it in their congested, soulless little hearts. Go forth in the next 7 days, put your money where your mouths are, and you shall make history! Next tuesday, the green fields of South Carolina shall lead us into the sunlit uplands of freedom, where we shall win one for the Rickster!!
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at January 10, 2012 03:42 PM (hRH92)
I think it's cat pee and KY jelly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 10, 2012 03:42 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:42 PM (niZvt)
Gee, why do Catholics lean Democrat when the Republicans are so warm and open to them?
Posted by: Sarah Palin at January 10, 2012 03:43 PM (Yigvc)
Posted by: wooga at January 10, 2012 03:43 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Was this before or after Joseph Smith swore his eternal allegiance to Satan while drinking virgin blood?
I don't need snakehandling illiterate bigots like you to tell me silly lies about my religion. Up your game, read a Jack Chick tract.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 03:43 PM (epBek)
They did the same thing with McCain, remember how NYT endorsed him and then the day he was safe with the nom they dropped that hit job about an affair with a lobbyist? Something they were obviously sitting on at the time of their endorsement. It's a game, if Hunstman won like McCain did, the left will ratchet up the cognitive dissonance machine to 11 and a month later it will be Stalinesque like all this current Huntsman breathy loving never happened.
Remember 30Rock where (during the hillary/obama battle) Tina Feys character said she would tell everyone she going to vote for Obama but secretly vote for McCain? After Obama won you heard the exact opposite... the previous McCain affair of years from the left was nary a mental speedbump. McCain fell for it, he literally used to call the press "his base" and was all confused when they suddenly turned on him. That's how the game is played, learn it or get played.
Posted by: Shiggz at January 10, 2012 03:43 PM (RfvTE)
But Romney would be smart to get someone more conservative friendly on his roster if he gets the nod, because you can't really win by people voting against your foe, you have to get people to want to vote for you at least a little.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:44 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: John at January 10, 2012 03:44 PM (BBlzg)
Nah, it just means he's eager to move on to his next job and jumped the gun in picking a candidate he thought would be most likely to help him get out of Louisiana.
But...but he just got sworn in yesterday...
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 10, 2012 03:44 PM (XdlcF)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:44 PM (niZvt)
You need to study your source books better, son. I'm just telling you what they used to say before being edited by later prophets. Women used to have to marry a good Mormon man to get into heaven, too. That got changed recently.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:45 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 03:45 PM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at January 10, 2012 03:45 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Knightbrigade at January 10, 2012 03:46 PM (zZ51c)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2012 03:47 PM (zLeKL)
Yeah it worked out well...so well that Obama won!
Posted by: Stewie
I hadn't realized before that the main problem with the McCain campaign was that he picked a nobody.
I thought the main problem was McCain.
And the economy. Two main problems. McCain, the economy, and the fact that he was running against a historic black guy. And the Bush legacy. And . . .
Look, no serious political guys think that a VP has to have the level of name recognition that you think they do. You're the only person I've ever heard this from.
You're also starting to get boring, so don't expect me to reply to your latest raving.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 03:47 PM (epBek)
---
Yes, they are. There was an in-depth article on the two families done by some place -- I think it was Vanity Fair, but I can't find it now -- that detailed the origins of their dislike for each other. I read it last year and spoke with my neighbors here, many of whom worked for Huntsman and/or for Romney in the Olympics, and they confirmed that there is animosity between the two. Huntsman's mom, in particular, seems to really hate Mitt.
If I find the article I'll link to it.
In the meantime, this recent article from a Utah paper kind of touches on the tensions between them a bit.
Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 03:48 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Clarence at January 10, 2012 03:48 PM (z0HdK)
Posted by: Dick_Nixon at January 10, 2012 03:49 PM (wfbQL)
Posted by: God Help Us. at January 10, 2012 03:49 PM (jiwQf)
They're all over the floors and countertops too.
They're real big.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 03:49 PM (HBqDo)
VP still gets a lot of shit, but Perry won't wear the underwear to get it.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at January 10, 2012 07:44 PM (hXJOG)
Do you really think he is hot for national office after that clusterfuck of a campaign? He is the biggest fish in Texas, but insignificant on the national stage, despite his excellent record. He will go back home and lick his wounds.
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 03:49 PM (1PXIb)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:50 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 03:50 PM (Qjh0I)
McCain got a big boost in the polls twice. The first was when Russia invaded Georgia and McCain instantly condemned it while Obama waffled around and muttered something about everyone getting along... and the second was when he picked Sarah Palin as his VP.
He actually was riding high when he went to Washington DC, suspending his campaign to do his job in congress about the financial melt down. He could have carried it to victory had he taken a strong stance and fought against TARP, using his position and seniority in congress to block it or at least fight to stop it. But he just went there and obeyed everyone else and showed no leadership. And his polling numbers cratered.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:51 PM (r4wIV)
Your eyes are crossed when you post, right?
Now I get it.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 03:51 PM (HBqDo)
Gee, why do Catholics lean Democrat when the Republicans are so warm and open to them?
Posted by: Sarah Palin at January 10, 2012 07:43 PM (Yigvc)
Actually, mass going catholics are heavily republican. The cafeteria catholic is heavily democrat.You end up with about a 50-50 split with the retards being libtarded, democrat, and hell bound. Although they will say their focus is "social justice" which is a code word for communism.
Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 03:52 PM (TCgts)
Posted by: M at January 10, 2012 03:52 PM (a0mPp)
You need to study your source books better, son. I'm just telling you what they used to say before being edited by later prophets. Women used to have to marry a good Mormon man to get into heaven, too. That got changed recently.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Slut, I've read the modern editions many times and the 1830 original Book of Mormon too. Nothing remotely about Space Pilgrims in there. I'm thinking you don't even know enough about this topic to be ignorant.
About getting married, nope. Now you may blow me.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 03:52 PM (epBek)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 10, 2012 03:53 PM (YeIP1)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 03:53 PM (niZvt)
Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at January 10, 2012 07:52 PM
I wouldn't blame anyone saying "Hell No" to any of our candidates at this time.
Posted by: Dick_Nixon at January 10, 2012 03:53 PM (wfbQL)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist
Absolutely, know what I'm sayin'.
Posted by: Vito ManyFeathers at January 10, 2012 03:53 PM (epBek)
Increase our numbers by +10%, and these primaries will be a lock.
Posted by: M at January 10, 2012 07:52 PM (a0mPp)
Nope, definitely not.
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 03:54 PM (1PXIb)
Posted by: I do not trust them at January 10, 2012 03:54 PM (/MuFf)
How many candidates had the guts to call teh SCOAMF a socialist on national TV? I want someone who isn't afraid to attack Obama for what he is.
Mitt wouldn't do it, as I recall. Hmmm, who was that guy? Was there more than one? I don't remember...
Posted by: Marmo at January 10, 2012 03:54 PM (pcgW1)
Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 03:54 PM (TCgts)
If you can find an honest older member of your church, talk to him about women getting into heaven. You can't erase memories, only change texts and take out the old versions.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:55 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Errol at January 10, 2012 03:56 PM (vewos)
Posted by: CoolCzech
And I'll admit that I bet you don't know enough about it to have an opinion.
Posted by: Vito ManyFeathers at January 10, 2012 03:57 PM (epBek)
Your eyes are crossed when you post, right?
Now I get it.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 07:51 PM (HBqDo)
I know what split rail is but what the hell is split tail?
Oh never mind, I'm trying to figure out an idiot.
Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 03:57 PM (qKEux)
Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 07:52 PM (TCgts)
Exactly.
I have a lot of opinions about the USCCB esp. Cardinal George that would likely get me excommunicated if I voiced them.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 03:57 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Bildo at January 10, 2012 03:57 PM (eToum)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 03:57 PM (Qjh0I)
Do you really think he is hot for national office after that clusterfuck of a campaign? He is the biggest fish in Texas, but insignificant on the national stage, despite his excellent record. He will go back home and lick his wounds.
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 07:49 PM (1PXIb)
Reagan didn't win the first time he ran. I'm expecting to see Perry try it again.
Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 03:58 PM (/VmDe)
Posted by: John at January 10, 2012 03:58 PM (BBlzg)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 03:58 PM (V6fqC)
>>Oh never mind, I'm trying to figure out an idiot.
Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 07:57 PM (qKEux)
A lyin' idjit
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (HBqDo)
I have nothing against Mormons as people, they're usually better upstanding moral folks (externally at least, I can't read hearts) than most Christians are. Mormons are hard working people who accomplished wonders in Utah and other places they've been numerous. They are good folks and good citizens.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (r4wIV)
Slut, I've read the modern editions many times and the 1830 original Book of Mormon too. Nothing remotely about Space Pilgrims in there. I'm thinking you don't even know enough about this topic to be ignorant.
About getting married, nope. Now you may blow me.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 07:52 PM (epBek
Finally, someone who can fill in the missing few pages of my Dale Carnegie course on “How to Win Friends and Influence People”.
I see IÂ’ve got some things to learn.
Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (FdndL)
Posted by: Serious Cat at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (2YIVk)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: EBL at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (IgakF)
Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (yCS09)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 07:57 PM (Qjh0I)
The independent vote seems to be split between Romney, Huntsman and Paul. Try to imagine how Paul would have performed if Mike Huntsman were not on the ballot.
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 04:00 PM (1PXIb)
Well, he'll get another chance in 2016.
Posted by: sandy burger at January 10, 2012 04:00 PM (0U+Pz)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:00 PM (niZvt)
Is the Huckster contagious?
Posted by: Clarence at January 10, 2012 04:01 PM (z0HdK)
Posted by: Ken Royall at January 10, 2012 04:01 PM (umam+)
If you can find an honest older member of your church, talk to him about women getting into heaven. You can't erase memories, only change texts and take out the old versions.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
How young do you think I am, pork chop?
Look, you're just butt ignorant on this issue. You're not even wrong.
Because we still believe that women (and men too) have to be married to make it to the highest level of the highest heaven. No change recently because there's been no change at all. Not that this has anything to do with you saying that the Mormon leadership would tell Romney what to do in the White House.
How can anyone think you're remotely credible on any of this? You're trying to tell me what I believe without knowing anything about the religion yourself, linking to any credible sources, or showing any signs at all of knowing what you're talking about.
No, I take that back. Unlike most antis, you got Joseph Smith's name right. You're practically a Ph.D. candidate.
Posted by: Vito ManyFeathers at January 10, 2012 04:01 PM (epBek)
Reagan didn't win the first time he ran. I'm expecting to see Perry try it again.
Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 07:58 PM (/VmDe)
I just watched “The King’s Speech” last night, so I know there are people who can help him.
Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 04:01 PM (FdndL)
Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2012 04:02 PM (Z71Vg)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:02 PM (r4wIV)
I have a lot of opinions about the USCCB esp. Cardinal George that would likely get me excommunicated if I voiced them.
Like saying they are all gay leftists? Ye-up. There are a couple of bishops that aren't but they are few and far between. A monseigneur told me once that the papal nuncio for the United States--the guy who sent back to Rome the names of the guys who should be elevated to bishop was a fairy princess. This went on for 30 years and resulted in our currently gay lib crop of socialists in the USCCB. A few good ones have slipped through and I think Benedict knows what has gone on but what an incredible mess of libtardism it is now. There are decent dioceses but the american bishops should be looked on with much skepticism.
Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 04:02 PM (TCgts)
I just watched “The King’s Speech” last night, so I know there are people who can help him.
LMAO!
Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2012 04:02 PM (Z71Vg)
blaster at January 10, 2012 07:59 PM
Kasich ain't exactly popular in Ohio right now. He lost that recall election rather handily on the union law in November didn't he?
But I do like Kasich.
Posted by: Dick_Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:03 PM (wfbQL)
Apparently the Mormon elders I spoke to were mistaken on the topic. They wouldn't know as well as you, I suppose. Like I said, go find an older Mormon and talk to them about how things were in the 60s and 70s, if you really care. Or don't that's fine with me. No reason to be insulting about it though, I imagine you were taught to not do that when you were going to seminary.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:03 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: no good deed at January 10, 2012 04:03 PM (mjR67)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at January 10, 2012 04:04 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 04:04 PM (V6fqC)
@310
Emperor,
So the media and late night, you know the people who actually dictate the campaign because average Americans are too stupid to really care and pay attention, made McCain the issue late in the campaign and not Palin?
Funny, because I don't recall seeing one McCain parody during the campaign. She did in fact help McCain in the beginning, but once she became the focus, and the media applied their craft, it became obvious all hope was lost.
But, if you choose to beleive that VP choice is not important, your free to do so.
Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 04:04 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: Rick Perry at January 10, 2012 04:05 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 08:00 PM (niZvt)
Well, at least it's not the 40+% everyone was saying he needed to clean up the rest of the nomination. There's still a lot of primarying to do, folks. All is not in the bag for Willard.
Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 04:05 PM (/VmDe)
I have nothing against Mormons as people, they're usually better upstanding moral folks (externally at least, I can't read hearts) than most Christians are. Mormons are hard working people who accomplished wonders in Utah and other places they've been numerous. They are good folks and good citizens.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Um, thanks, I guess. I take it that everything your atheist friend knows about Mormons he got from you?
Finally, someone who can fill in the missing few pages of my Dale Carnegie course on “How to Win Friends and Influence People”.
I see IÂ’ve got some things to learn.
Posted by: jwest
They say that when the student is ready, the master will appear.
Meditate on the following koan and get back to me:
What is the sound of one hand fapping?
Posted by: Vito ManyFeathers at January 10, 2012 04:05 PM (epBek)
The order of finish in Iowa didn't change after 49% had reported.
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 04:05 PM (Qjh0I)
Told ya we'd be busy.
Posted by: Association of Goal Post Movers at January 10, 2012 04:05 PM (ad7NF)
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 04:06 PM (1PXIb)
Perspective please.
Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 04:06 PM (TCgts)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 04:06 PM (V6fqC)
I think C.T. Is doing a good job of showing you're not exactly an expert, yourself.
FNC CALLS IT FOR MITT!!! 36%
Posted by: CoolCzech
CT hasn't even shown that he knows anything about the *current* teachings of the Mormons, let alone what may have been taught 150 years ago.
Posted by: Vito ManyFeathers at January 10, 2012 04:06 PM (epBek)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:06 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: no good deed at January 10, 2012 04:06 PM (mjR67)
Posted by: Joffen at January 10, 2012 04:07 PM (zLeKL)
Apparently the Mormon elders I spoke to were mistaken on the topic. They wouldn't know as well as you, I suppose. Like I said, go find an older Mormon and talk to them about how things were in the 60s and 70s, if you really care.
Or you could ask the progeny of the other settlers of Utah...oh, wait.
You can't. I wonder why that is?
Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2012 04:07 PM (fOmkv)
Posted by: BSR at January 10, 2012 04:07 PM (BH4RQ)
Herman Cain bloviating on Cavuto about New Hampshire, and will be ready for consultation with a nubile young female after the show.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 10, 2012 04:08 PM (TkGkA)
Posted by: Geico Caveman at January 10, 2012 04:08 PM (Qjh0I)
It's not just the Southern Baptist, read this:
Something tells me Mittens isn't getting the Catholic vote either.
http://tinyurl.com/d95s5ry
Posted by: Republican voters at January 10, 2012 07:24 PM (hXJOG)
Waaaaayyyy late to the party, but I assure you that there are plenty of Catholics that will overcome any potential dislike of "personal" heresy such as Mittens' in order to vote against thegolden calf that is the JEF, SCOAMF, SCOAMT, J.D., Sucker of Cocks, PO(52%of)TUS.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 10, 2012 04:08 PM (lJJMb)
If he does a shit job, screw it Primary has ass. Should be that way all the time.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 10, 2012 04:09 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
I was a Mormon during the 60s and 70s, bigot. You really have no clue.
I don't expect you to come down to the waters of baptism, but stop talking like you are anything more than a mass of prejudice, lies, and misremembered conversations with random people, on the subject of Mormonism.
Posted by: Vito ManyFeathers at January 10, 2012 04:09 PM (epBek)
Posted by: Tjexcite at January 10, 2012 04:09 PM (sk1Ym)
Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 04:09 PM (U1GWm)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:10 PM (niZvt)
You can't. I wonder why that is? Heh...
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:10 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 04:10 PM (TCgts)
Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 04:11 PM (U1GWm)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at January 10, 2012 08:08 PM (qjUnn)
Yes. The primaries are moving out of the stupid states now.
Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 04:11 PM (/VmDe)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:11 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Emperor of Vito ManyFeathers at January 10, 2012 04:11 PM (epBek)
You should continue the discussion over at youtube.com where it belongs.
Posted by: sandy burger at January 10, 2012 04:11 PM (0U+Pz)
Perry finished, what, 6th?
Huntsman and Paul have no hope.
Who's the anti-Romney?
The only issue now is how to prevent Paul from running 3rd party and throwing the election to Obama.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 04:12 PM (QcFbt)
I gotta say, based on his performance tonight, it looks like its all over for Cain.
Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 04:12 PM (5H6zj)
I am the .0000001%
Posted by: Willy at January 10, 2012 04:12 PM (PlLjX)
"I was a Mormon during the 60s and 70s, bigot. "
Ah yes, before your religion allowed me into Heaven.
Posted by: Average Black Guy at January 10, 2012 04:12 PM (wfbQL)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at January 10, 2012 04:12 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2012 04:13 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:13 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 08:08 PM (TCgts)
Okay that one gave me a crew cut.
More please.....
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 04:13 PM (HBqDo)
Kasich ain't exactly popular in Ohio right now. He lost that recall election rather handily on the union law in November didn't he?
But I do like Kasich.
Posted by: Dick_Nixon at January 10, 2012 08:03 PM (wfbQL)
Kasich made the mistake of going after police and fire unions. Had he just stayed with going after the regular state employee's unions, it probably would have passed.
And yeah, I like Kasich too.
Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 04:13 PM (qKEux)
2- Ron Paul
3- Jon Huntsman
Hallelujah! Its raining conservatives!
Posted by: Clarence at January 10, 2012 08:11 PM (z0HdK)
It's raining liberals who wish to continue polishing the turd from the clean end.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 10, 2012 04:13 PM (TkGkA)
Romney will take every single primary from here on out. Mark my words. Romney knows it, too, so he'll go even more centrist than he has already.
The RINO lovefest is about to begin.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:13 PM (epBek)
Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 04:13 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: Jose at January 10, 2012 04:14 PM (srIqv)
I'm really hoping this election basically destroys the party system and people abandon the various parties en masse. The Founding Fathers were very clear about their opposition to party loyalty, they considered it damaging to liberty. And we've seen why.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:14 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Nah, not really. at January 10, 2012 04:14 PM (jiwQf)
Posted by: Joffen at January 10, 2012 08:07 PM (zLeKL)
Ya can't win 'em all, Joffen.
Posted by: Association of Emo Canadian Man-Children at January 10, 2012 04:14 PM (ad7NF)
Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at January 10, 2012 04:14 PM (zgwWv)
Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 04:14 PM (TCgts)
Posted by: Clarence
Troll. A state holding a primary with 44% independents of the total in the primary. What would you expect. I see you are still beclowning yourself.
Posted by: dogfish at January 10, 2012 04:14 PM (N2yhW)
Actually I have even harsher words for them.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:15 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 04:15 PM (V6fqC)
Posted by: Doc at January 10, 2012 04:15 PM (/h3en)
Posted by: Geico Caveman at January 10, 2012 04:15 PM (Qjh0I)
Ah yes, before your religion allowed me into Heaven.
Posted by: Average Black Guy
Heaven you were eligible for. But you couldn't be a Mormon priest. Pretty much indefensible and wrong either way, though, so I'm not going to defend it. If you really are a black guy, my apologies.
I believe in Mormonism, but we aren't perfect, and that was a bad one.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:15 PM (epBek)
Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 04:16 PM (TCgts)
Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 04:16 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:16 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:16 PM (oZfic)
I suspect you're right, he's going to build his entire campaign around getting the media's version of the moderate to vote for him, while presuming the base will do what they're told. That worked so well for McCain...
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:17 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 04:17 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: Chris R, red in NY-9 at January 10, 2012 04:17 PM (u2x4P)
Posted by: Ana at January 10, 2012 04:18 PM (SlYiu)
Posted by: Achmed Dinnerjacket at January 10, 2012 04:18 PM (BhuDE)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 04:18 PM (40rE+)
Hallelujah we finally have objective proof the NE is a totally lost cause and New Hampshire should have their primary keys taken away too. Who should get first shot next time guys? I'm voting for someplace in the west.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:18 PM (0q2P7)
Thats regarding how it directly affects the general election. How it affects culture, party, "optics", perceptions.... those things are probably potentially greater but harder to quantify as to their long term affects.
Like I said the other day, and Entropy took great umbrage with, The Tea Party as it was seems to be gone, but their helping to put Marco Rubio over Charlie Crist and if Rubio potentially becomes the new fresher face, sincere, nice guy, Cuban, and anti-communist face of the conservative movement could potentially have long reaching affects. It's a long shot, but if it happens and the Tea Party never revives.. that one thing could have been worth it. Or Rubio and the Tea Party fizzle and we devolve into Western Europe with an America to prop up our economy and babysitter our borders and trade routes.... From where I sit, Rubio is potentially the Tea Parties best bet at legacy.... and even that is far from a sure thing.
I give it better then 50/50 that Christie or N Hailey is going to be Romney VP pick.
Posted by: Shiggz at January 10, 2012 04:19 PM (RfvTE)
Perry won't drop out until South Carolina is over, depending on the results. Or at least that is what he said. He will, if he leaves the race, endorse Santorum, IMO.
If Romney wins South Carolina, he will be the nominee.
And my 12th generation Southern Baptist self will vote for him. Anyone who doesn't will be in fact supporting Barak Obama's re election.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:19 PM (wfbQL)
Posted by: Rick Santorum at January 10, 2012 04:19 PM (ad7NF)
It doesn't really matter. Basically if you win the first two insignificant and meaningless states, specifically designed to stop any person with integrity out of office, then you're going to cruise unless you somehow blow up and lose Super Tuesday. The system is front loaded to get moderates and the richest candidates wins.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:19 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Rick perry - at January 10, 2012 04:20 PM (U1GWm)
#445,
Yes, the Urim and Thummin. Egyptian, not really, but other than that, yeah. So what? Why are you asking? What does this have to do with anything?
Answer those questions convincingly and I'll answer whatever other odd questions you have.
446 I guess based on this thread I have to modify my statement. Most Mormons are really nice, decent people who make Christians look morally poor in comparison.
I love that technique. Lie and smear Mormonism and if Mormons don't take it meekly, complain about what bad Christians we are.
Jesus used that same technique. No, wait, he didn't.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:20 PM (epBek)
And we try and compete by nominating the most moderate Republicans we can find.
Next time let's just nominate Meghan McCain.
Or fuck it, let's just nominate Hillary next time.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 04:20 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 04:20 PM (40rE+)
...we devolve into Western Europe with without an America to prop up our economy and babysitter our borders and trade routes....
Posted by: Shiggz at January 10, 2012 04:20 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Serious Cat at January 10, 2012 04:20 PM (2YIVk)
Posted by: Jose at January 10, 2012 04:21 PM (srIqv)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:21 PM (niZvt)
Bob McDonnell is the VP. I do like him. He's done great things for Va and can carry the now red but previously retard purple state.
What would you think of Romney (if he's the nominee) if he picked one of our young guns? Cantor, Rubio.. Ryan (if they would take it). Help or hurt? Or do you think he needs to go for the older guy who has been around the block a few times but nobody knows? Or a woman (shudder)? and I say shudder because of the anal exam Palin got, not because I am against a woman. I mean, I AM one after all.
Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2012 04:21 PM (Z71Vg)
I'm hoping that the big push to get Tea Party folks in control of the party at the local level worked, because that will matter in the long run, but have smaller effect in the short run. It looks like the GOP elites in the beltway are going to win this contest, but the future? We'll see.
If there's a country left to see it take effect in.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:22 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2012 08:14 PM (TCgts)
Dude is a study in egg shell white.
Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 04:22 PM (qKEux)
466 So explain to me again why Romney is not picking Huntsman as VP? If the Left like both Romney and Huntsman then they don't even need us.
Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 08:17 PM (JMsOK)
Stewie,
In this world, there are dicks, pussies and assholes. Sure, Romney is a dick, but heÂ’s no pussy. The last thing he needs now is to pick an asshole.
Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 04:22 PM (FdndL)
Posted by: Ana at January 10, 2012 04:22 PM (SlYiu)
Dear Beldar,
I did it brother, and will be home on Saturday for a quick visit. I'm coming on the Mothership with Captain Mook, and look forward to spending time with you and Connie.
Love, Ron
Posted by: Luap Nor at January 10, 2012 04:23 PM (TkGkA)
Posted by: no good deed at January 10, 2012 08:18 PM (mjR67)
You're being too kind. That ape obviously has more intellect and humility
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 04:23 PM (HBqDo)
I will take back one thing, CT. I don't actually know that you're lying. You could just be certain about things that aren't so.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:23 PM (epBek)
I have NO IDEA what the hell McCain was trying to do. Only dark suspicions...
Me neither. The fuck. "You have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency". Oh yeah, asshole? Fuck you McCain. I never got it either.
Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2012 04:23 PM (Z71Vg)
Posted by: dogfish at January 10, 2012 04:24 PM (N2yhW)
: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at January 10, 2012 08:21 PM
I'll wait til he announces he wants to keep parts of Obamacare in place before I go off on his religion. Plenty of other things about Mittens I don't like, such as his lie that the individual mandate is a conservative principle.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:24 PM (wfbQL)
McCain was running on a combination of inevitability mixed with his apparently almost religious fear of badmouthing or hurting fellow Senators. He seems to hold fellow Senators in an almost terrified awe, unwilling to do anything that might upset them or contradict them in any way.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:24 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:24 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual
Mitt's a miracle worker. All hail the true Mormon Messiah.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:24 PM (epBek)
Maybe he's undead.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:25 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 04:25 PM (40rE+)
I'm really not going to go all Huntsman.
Ever.
Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at January 10, 2012 04:25 PM (vWrND)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 04:25 PM (V6fqC)
True dat and I'll even stop with the underwear and stone references.
Well I can promise I won't not vote for him because of his religion but that is the best I can do.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:25 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at January 10, 2012 04:25 PM (zgwWv)
Posted by: Jimmah at January 10, 2012 04:26 PM (TMeYE)
Good luck getting votes that way. What's he gonna do send out Chinese greeting cards?
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 04:26 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 08:24 PM (niZvt)
You're fired.
Posted by: Mitt Romney at January 10, 2012 04:26 PM (ad7NF)
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:27 PM (epBek)
Just watching Ann Romney introduce Mitt.
She certainly has a First Ladyish vibe going on. Certainly much better than that Joker-mouth Callista.
Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 04:27 PM (FdndL)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 07:50 PM (niZvt)
-------------------
Sold!
-the left
Posted by: Shiggz at January 10, 2012 04:27 PM (RfvTE)
"I have NO IDEA what the hell McCain was trying to do."
McCain is an admitted Progressive who admires Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wislon. Trust me...McCain was quite pleased with an Obama Presidency.
Please note: the McCain endorsement for Romney should make everyones ears perk up........it is not a good thing!
Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 04:27 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:27 PM (r4wIV)
Strange days, no?
Posted by: holygoat at January 10, 2012 04:27 PM (2ptZ1)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 04:28 PM (40rE+)
Posted by: Doc at January 10, 2012 04:28 PM (/h3en)
Posted by: swamper at January 10, 2012 04:28 PM (D6Aty)
Posted by: sTevo at January 10, 2012 04:28 PM (VMcEw)
It has become obvious that McCain never really wanted to win in 2008.....it's almost as if it was a vanity play.
Posted by: Stewie at January 10, 2012 04:29 PM (JMsOK)
there were a lot of facebook messages saying "I'm voting for President Obama but today I'm going on the hunt for huntsman".
I'm beginning to understand what they mean.
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:29 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: The Q at January 10, 2012 04:29 PM (LnQhT)
I think there are plenty of reasons for Tea Party folks to dislike Romney's politics that have nothing to do with capitalism. Its just as much as he annoys us, he's still better than 4 more years of President Obama who doesn't have to worry about reelection.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:29 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at January 10, 2012 04:29 PM (vWrND)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks' Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at January 10, 2012 04:30 PM (JW97y)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual
Billy Bob,
the Jesus I believe in is the God who was born of Mary, crucified for the sins of mankind, resurrected on the third day, and ascended to heaven to sit at the right hand of the Father. If you or the Catholic church thinks I'm lying, I honestly don't care. Go peddle that stuff to a more interested or more credulous audience.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:30 PM (epBek)
I'm beginning to understand what they mean.
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 08:29 PM (oZfic)
Delusional!
Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 10, 2012 04:30 PM (TkGkA)
Posted by: Cheese Wheel McBeal at January 10, 2012 04:30 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:30 PM (epBek)
Jesus, even I managed to beat that guy.
Posted by: David Duke at January 10, 2012 04:30 PM (ad7NF)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:30 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:31 PM (epBek)
Posted by: Doc at January 10, 2012 04:31 PM (/h3en)
Posted by: lauren at January 10, 2012 04:32 PM (vqdNY)
This is live TV. Do you think Newt might run in yelling “Turn those machines back on! I should have won!”
Posted by: jwest at January 10, 2012 04:32 PM (FdndL)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:32 PM (niZvt)
But that is such a serious charge for Savage to make.
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:32 PM (oZfic)
"Why Catholics do not believe Mormons are Christians."
Well, many Protestants have major issues with Catholics.
I'll let Willard worry about his relationship with Christ at the final Judgement. I'm more concerned about him, if elected, having the guts to make the cuts in Government that Perry would have done. Reform the f'n tax code, nuke two or three cabinet positions and organizations. Really reform Social Security and Medicare. Cut spending big time.
He can govern in the middle if elected. And get primaried big in 2016. Or he can actually try to do the things we need to happen.
It's up to Willard. If he is the nominee.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:32 PM (wfbQL)
Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at January 10, 2012 04:32 PM (vWrND)
My Sacred Honor compels me to inform you that with the support of Nickie Haley and the other PooBahs Mitt will win the SC primary next.
Posted by: Joseph Smith Jr at January 10, 2012 04:33 PM (zgwWv)
Let me guess... Rubio?
And Ace, I'm waiting for you to mention the Rubio v Rand showdown on the vote re Georgia's admission to NATO. I'm just surprised you haven't.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:33 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: swamper at January 10, 2012 04:33 PM (D6Aty)
Posted by: Clarence at January 10, 2012 04:33 PM (z0HdK)
It wasn't Frank Luntz, was it?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:33 PM (piMMO)
I find it hard to believe that Mormons consider themselves Christians.
I find it hard to believe that you're actually debating religion here.
Can I pay you both to shut up?
Posted by: sandy burger at January 10, 2012 04:33 PM (0U+Pz)
Posted by: lauren at January 10, 2012 08:32 PM (vqdNY)
If the alternative is a Huntsman surge, color me RINO.
Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (vWrND)
Did Mitt's speechwriter just learn about alliteration?
Ooh, nice steal of Perry's Cut, Cap, and Balance slogan.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (epBek)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (YU6SV)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (vzFJV)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (40rE+)
Oh bless their heart. The best they can hope to accomplish with that is a non-majority going to convention, which would mean brokered, which means one of two things
1. Romney
2. Someone who didn't run and doesn't have any negativity attached to them. (No not Sarah, get it out of your head, it will never happen, the establishment would rather walk over broken glass then eat the glass than do that)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:34 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Chris at January 10, 2012 04:35 PM (XGZYX)
I wanted Perry this time.
But I was ok with McCain in the end. I'm ok with Romney now.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 04:35 PM (QcFbt)
Really? Is that the first time you ever listened to Savage??
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:35 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Clarence
+1 million
Can I pay you both to shut up?
Posted by: sandy burger
Well, sure. Sorry.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:35 PM (epBek)
Posted by: Jimmah at January 10, 2012 04:35 PM (TMeYE)
"that is such a serious charge for Savage to make."
Savage is more right than wrong usually. Although, there is a certain conspriacy Ron Paul vibe in the Savage world, which is weird. Newt working with Dems?....Possible, but unlikely, I think Newt is just really pissed off right now, and is throwing stuff up against the wall in desperation.
Posted by: Cheese Wheel McBeal at January 10, 2012 04:35 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 10, 2012 08:34 PM (YU6SV)
You do realize you sound like a fool, right?
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (oZfic)
I wanted Perry this time.
But I was ok with McCain in the end. I'm ok with Romney now.
ditto
ditto
ditto...kind of
ditto
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (piMMO)
I thought that was the sinister Joo. Maybe Ba'Hai?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: My Cousin Newty at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (ad7NF)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: Jose at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (srIqv)
They make their bundt cake with the blood of Catholic children, you know.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2012 08:34 PM (vzFJV)
Gee..I didn't know you could make matzahs from bundt cake.
Not Kosher L'Pesach, you know..
Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (vWrND)
Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2012 04:36 PM (yCS09)
Posted by: lauren at January 10, 2012 08:32 PM (vqdNY)
I think you've accepted ABO. Let's not start shooting ourselves yet, lauren.
Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 04:37 PM (qKEux)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff
Organic Catholic children. Only bigots say we use the factory-farmed kind.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:37 PM (epBek)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 10, 2012 04:37 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 04:37 PM (ad7NF)
Posted by: Diane Sawyer, totally sober, I swair, I mean swear! at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (B2SPW)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (oZfic)
I have always declared my intention to vote for the nominee, but I must now revise that. I cannot vote for Gingrich under any circumstances - unless it's an election to offer someone as a human sacrifice to alien invaders or something, in which case the jerk tops my list. We already have a socialist party, asshole.
Huntsman and Perry are on shaky ground, too, and Santorum is walking the line. There is plenty to criticize Romney over - the worst, which no one mentions, is his affinity for the green boondoggles which cost us energy, money, and progress for no significant benefit at all. Of course, Newt has always been even more in the bag for green scams, but he's such a lying hypocritical scumbag that he might as well.
But if you are too stupid to understand the basics of capitalism, you are too stupid to be President. We've already got one of those.
Posted by: Adjoran at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (VfmLu)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (epBek)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (niZvt)
Save Me Obi-won Ke- . . .
Aw, fuckit . . .
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (smvTK)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (YeIP1)
5 sons vs Obama's gay-ass girl-only sperm.
If we were India or China the election would be over based on that alone.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 04:38 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: Doc at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (/h3en)
I call it programing, something had to happen to him when he was a POW. He's practically a mole, lead the charge, get within striking distance of your objective, then turn your gun on your own troops. He does it every fucking time.
Posted by: Berserker at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (epBek)
Hey, maybe it's a good thing that a man that could be that dead wrong about something didn't make it to the White House.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at January 10, 2012 08:25 PM (vbh31)
Sure, except we got the JEF, who's been dead wrong about everything. Our Present President had to deliberate for 16 hours about whether or not to send our pipe-hitters in to whack Osama.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (lJJMb)
I ain't through with you by a damn sight.
I'ma get Bain Capital on your ass.
Posted by: Marcellus Wallace (Romney SPeech writer) at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (zgwWv)
Er, yeah. They can't afford braces?
Posted by: jeanne! at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (bEnlY)
Posted by: marybel at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (TDe/C)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (ad7NF)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: lauren at January 10, 2012 08:32 PM (vqdNY)
I'm hanging onto my ammo for now, so you're going to have to wait.
However I do have this list. But it's at 1140, so right now I'd have to say it's going to be close, and I don't even dislike you.
You may want to line up an alternate plan.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 04:39 PM (HBqDo)
That is all.
Posted by: Mike at January 10, 2012 04:40 PM (ptP00)
" I cannot vote for Gingrich under any circumstances "
I can safely say you will not have to vote for Gingrich in the general election.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:40 PM (wfbQL)
Our local talk radio station kicked Savage out, moved Clark Howard from his 1800-2100 slot and into Savage's and replaced Howard with Andy Dean.
What a fucking puss.
He's like an equally whiny but less convincing Hannity. And, he got in his little jabs last week about how Perry is so dumb "he can't even tie his own shoes".
Just who the fuck do people such as he think they are?!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:40 PM (piMMO)
Amen to that. And he surrounded himself with ivory tower leftist academic intellectual types full of theories and no real world comprehension. Reset button my ass.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:40 PM (r4wIV)
What right allows you to make that determination of another person? I'm not asking about the opinion of whether or not Mormons are Christians, but how you believe you have the right to make that determination for others.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2012 04:40 PM (jcnm8)
If he fails to secure a majority of pledged electoral votes, and they (the unpledged) have any sanity, they will think very seriously about forcing someone on the party who couldn't get enough support to win outright two times in a row. If it goes that far the discord would make it easier to unify the party behind someone who didn't run.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:41 PM (0q2P7)
@594
Obama won Virgina by almost a quarter of a million votes. Might be a bit early to be putting it into Landslide Mitt's Column.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 10, 2012 04:41 PM (3wBRE)
Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 08:38 PM (X6akg)
Is there cleavage?
Posted by: Peeper at January 10, 2012 04:41 PM (tCDfu)
" Bush was a Methodist, no edicts were issued."
Methodists are socially moderate heading liberal at a fast pace. They are now endorsing gay marriage.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:42 PM (wfbQL)
That's why I'm a Bachmann booster.
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 08:41 PM (oZfic) at January 10, 2012 04:42 PM (B2SPW)
This. A fucking axe murder deserves to be in the white house more than this fucking closet muslim ,American hating , marxist cockholster.
Posted by: Berserker at January 10, 2012 04:42 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:42 PM (niZvt)
Person, you can't. Only God can tell that. A group or organized religion however, you can. Religions get to decide who gets in and who doesn't, and if someone else comes along says "we've got a new book and you're all wrong, but we're still one of you." they're not.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:43 PM (r4wIV)
"Fox News really does want Obama to stay in power, don't it?"
Of Course..........It is a business, is it not? If the Congress becomes Republican majority in the House and Senate with a Republican President, Fox will resemble MSNBC by this time in 2013.
Posted by: Cheese Wheel McBeal at January 10, 2012 04:43 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: soothie at January 10, 2012 08:43 PM (vzLhi)
Probably titled "Aw, fuckit, it's gonna be Romney?"
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 04:43 PM (smvTK)
The McCains are now, what, at least 4th generation Navy studs.
McCain sacrificed the country to protect his family's name. He was happy to lose gracefully.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 04:43 PM (QcFbt)
Billy Bob,
Mormons don't believe that seerstones have anything to do with salvation either. Don't know where you are getting that from. That's like saying that rectilinear instruments of torture constructed from natural materials are what Catholics believe saves them.
This isn't the place for it, but if you want to debate this more, go the Junior Ganymede blog where I blog or the Mormon Dialogue forum
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:43 PM (epBek)
You see how he takes a whole bunch of words, strings them together and makes sentences?
Can you do something about your font settings?
Posted by: Max Power is the Dunning–Kruger effect made flesh at January 10, 2012 04:44 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 04:44 PM (40rE+)
Yeah it was groups like Methodists who pushed for the welfare state and prohibition; well meaning but using the government to try to establish moral behavior and good deeds, by force if necessary. Not all Methodists, mind you, but the Bush sort definitely.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:44 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 08:34 PM (X6akg)
He said that?
I could go with that.
We may need it in writing though.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 04:44 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 10, 2012 04:45 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: marybel at January 10, 2012 04:46 PM (TDe/C)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 08:44 PM (40rE+)
In politics, if you're defending, you're losing. Attack. Always attack. When you get attacked, counterattack, don't defend. Defense is for losers.
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 04:46 PM (smvTK)
eh. don't take it personal. I had a baptist say that to me once. And I'm Catholic. I mean really? Catholics aren't Christian? Really? The folks who (by vote of the bishops I might add) came up with the theology of the Divine Christ and wrote the original tenets of faith aren't Christian? You can't take the self righteous seriously about such things.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:46 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:46 PM (GBxvs)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2012 04:46 PM (ac6ny)
He said that?
I could go with that.
We may need it in writing though.
Posted by: ontherocks
It's been part of his stump speech for awhile. Obamacare doesn't poll real well.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:46 PM (epBek)
He said that?
I could go with that.
We may need it in writing though.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 08:44 PM (HBqDo)
In the blood of his first born.
Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 04:46 PM (X6akg)
Your station dumped that douchebag Andy Dean on you too? Mine ran Dennis Miller in the evening for years and just booted him for Dean. Miller had a fun, easygoing show that I'd come to really enjoy, now instead I get this smug kid barely out of his twenties who's advertised by radio spots in which he declares he's the Mozart of monologues. I've never even heard of this prick before.
Yeah I know, streaming....
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 04:47 PM (ad7NF)
This:
This. A fucking axe murder deserves to be in the white house more than this fucking closet muslim ,American hating , marxist cockholster.
Posted by: marybel at January 10, 2012 04:47 PM (TDe/C)
they've been throwing those out at the bar tonight.
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:47 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Okie Tea Partierer at January 10, 2012 04:47 PM (Qzb90)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 10, 2012 04:48 PM (QQAJP)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:48 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: soothie at January 10, 2012 04:48 PM (oB2II)
they've been throwing those out at the bar tonight.
Sure, but not Ron, Rand... Rand is the good one.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:48 PM (piMMO)
Yeah it was groups like Methodists who pushed for the welfare state and prohibition; well meaning but using the government to try to establish moral behavior and good deeds, by force if necessary. Not all Methodists, mind you, but the Bush sort definitely.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 08:44 PM (r4wIV)
The UM website is pushing for a Palestinian state within the borders of Israel.
I haven't been to church in a while.
Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 04:49 PM (qKEux)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:49 PM (r4wIV)
1. Romney would win.
2. Perry didn't even campaign for NH.
There is nothing here suggesting things are any different than they were last week after Iowa.
I personally am holding out for Florida. If whomever is going to make a move is going to make a move they had better do it by then.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:49 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Lizabth at January 10, 2012 04:49 PM (JZBti)
Aways up stream, Chris Taylor suddenly launched into a riff about how the Mormon church was super controlling but not to worry because Romney was just in it for himself, and it went downhill from there.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:49 PM (epBek)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 04:50 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:50 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 08:51 PM (oZfic) at January 10, 2012 04:50 PM (B2SPW)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 08:12 PM (QcFbt)
Romney/Paul 2012
Yeah. That'll fix 'em.
Posted by: antisocialist at January 10, 2012 04:51 PM (j/nZn)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 10, 2012 08:45 PM (GZitp)
That's not Tim Pawlenty, dude. It's Brian Dennehy.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 10, 2012 04:51 PM (lJJMb)
" Before someone cites me a hypocrite for condemning Islam, I will communicate my opinion that Islam is a cult, not a valid religion. "
I can agree with this statement 100%
Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:51 PM (GBxvs)
>>In the blood of his first born.
Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 08:46 PM (X6akg)
That would convince me that he was serious, but I don't think that would play well with The Right to Lifers.
I hate being such a political animal, but there it is.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 04:51 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 10, 2012 04:51 PM (sb3kT)
Where's your :SINISTER: ?
Anyway interesting, men break strongly toward Paul, Women toward Santorum, that is very very interesting.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:51 PM (0q2P7)
After a day full of Boortz, Rush, and Hannity a talkie like Miller, or John Gibson, or even Levin would have been welcome. Although I admit that I don't listen to any of them as much as I used to, especially Boortz.
I'm buying an I-Phone next month and downloading the Sirius app. Goodbye local talk radio.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:52 PM (piMMO)
This:
This. A fucking axe murder deserves to be in the white house more than this fucking closet muslim ,American hating , marxist cockholster.
This? This.
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 10, 2012 04:52 PM (PddVe)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at January 10, 2012 04:52 PM (ijjAe)
Posted by: Jordan at January 10, 2012 04:52 PM (RSG1I)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:52 PM (r4wIV)
Mr. Pink at January 10, 2012 08:51 PM
It's racist to bring up those things.
That's how it didn't hurt him.
Ask the MSM
Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:53 PM (GBxvs)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:53 PM (oZfic)
Because f*** you, that's why.
(This post was censored at Tipper Gore's request.)
Posted by: MSM at January 10, 2012 04:54 PM (HfydS)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at January 10, 2012 08:52 PM (ijjAe)
I was thinking the same thing...
Posted by: antisocialist at January 10, 2012 04:54 PM (j/nZn)
Posted by: Pat McGroin at January 10, 2012 04:54 PM (bnTY4)
Remember, Rupert get the big bucks no matter who wins. (That's why it's so silly for lefties to act like it's subversive.) It's why the channel can put up brain-dead cheerleaders who won't tell Republican voters what they need to hear.
For example, Michelle "Jenny Mc" Malkin is already starting with her HEEELARIOUS nose plugs crap. Because she's a giant baby who thinks we can just demand tribute to the conservative god.
Posted by: Anony at January 10, 2012 04:54 PM (Yigvc)
Posted by: Chris at January 10, 2012 04:54 PM (XGZYX)
In politics, if you're defending,
you're losing. Attack. Always attack. When you get attacked,
counterattack, don't defend. Defense is for losers.
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 08:46 PM (smvTK)
I would say a good press conference/good defense would be really good. McCain did it with some scandal in January 2008
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 04:54 PM (40rE+)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 08:54 PM (oZfic) at January 10, 2012 04:55 PM (B2SPW)
Unless the Dems registered as Republican, at least they won't be able to vote for Paul.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:55 PM (piMMO)
Right, because nobody ever looked into his background before. He is a real mystery man that Mitt.
Posted by: Ken Royall at January 10, 2012 04:55 PM (umam+)
Mormonism is to Christianity as Christianity is to Judaism. It's related, but a whole new ball of wax.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 04:56 PM (QcFbt)
A lot of religions start out that way.
The only reason I can think of to say "Islam is not a valid religion", is that I hold it to be provably false. Namely, I hold the Qur'an as a forgery (in God's name) by humans, in response to human concerns and quoting human documents. I'd say I could prove it, except that Yehuda Nevo did that already (to sura 48, in "Crossroads to Islam"). As goes that sura, so goes "The Qur'an" as a unitary document. Inductive reasoning, bitchez!
But then, I apply the same reasoning to Creationism and to Biblical literalism, as well. So that's not an argument likely to be accepted in conservative circles.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 10, 2012 04:56 PM (QQAJP)
Posted by: antisocialist at January 10, 2012 04:56 PM (j/nZn)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:56 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 10, 2012 04:56 PM (YU6SV)
Posted by: Billy Bob
You are judging when you declare Mormons not Christians. Sorry, this isn't Metaphysical Burger King. You can't in fact have it both ways.
Again, by what right do you have to be able to declare others Christian or not?
I'm not familiar with the theological basis for doing so. Are you appropriating things that do not belong to you?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2012 04:56 PM (jcnm8)
So you don't believe in the Book of Mormon, written with the seer stones? Baptism of the dead?
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual
This isn't the place for it, but if you want to debate this more, go the Junior Ganymede blog where I blog or the Mormon Dialogue forum. I'll even put a link to a post here, if you feel some special call to evangelize the Morons on the evils of Mormonism.
--
Edit: OK, here's a link for any Morons who want to debate Mormonism for some reason. To all the sane ones, sorry we've cluttered up this thread.
http://tinyurl.com/7jkdy8x
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 10, 2012 04:56 PM (epBek)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 08:57 PM (oZfic) at January 10, 2012 04:57 PM (B2SPW)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 04:57 PM (0q2P7)
I don't care if the next guy is a rattlesnake handler, I'd rather have that that this Muzzsymp.
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 10, 2012 04:57 PM (PddVe)
70% that voted for Hunstman IDed as Moderate/Liberal.
51% that voted for Hunstman are satisfied with Obama's performance.
Seriously. And this guy is going to finish in 3rd.
Posted by: Doc at January 10, 2012 08:15 PM (/h3en)
Given that information, I hereby declare the 1% of the vote won by Perry to be a Badge of Honor!
Can't we give that state to Canada?
Posted by: Meremortal at January 10, 2012 04:57 PM (Usk3+)
Mitt would run a pretty aggressive campaign... you know like Dominoes when it redid its pizzas or subway etc.. That's the world Mitt is from and knows. Of course he will be running against Obama with literally a billion dollar warchest again plus all the free wall to wall news/entertainment media cover.
Most of our frontrunners are sitting on between 4-15 million... basically nothing compared to the 1000 million ie Obamas Billion. Most of the half of this country that lives off government as employee or welfare takers are going to literally believe their checks will stop and they'll lose their job/check, home, gay freedom, etc.. if Romney is elected.
Romney will run a more aggressive campaign then McCain but Obama 2012 is going to run a more outwardly aggressive campaign then Obama 08.
Anyone that tells you that this election is going to be anything but very close and very messy is, as far as im concerned, absolutely lying/delusional.
Posted by: Shiggz at January 10, 2012 04:57 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 10, 2012 08:51 PM (sb3kT)
Whos going to report it?
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 04:57 PM (40rE+)
Huntsmen/Paul for 2012
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 04:57 PM (J6liE)
Posted by: Bob Undead Saget at January 10, 2012 04:58 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 04:58 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 10, 2012 08:56 PM (QQAJP)
Consider it a circle of (at least) two.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 10, 2012 04:58 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 10, 2012 04:58 PM (BhuDE)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 08:54 PM (oZfic) at January 10, 2012 08:55 PM (B2SPW)
isn't that a nice way of saying "someone who panders"?
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 04:58 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2012 04:58 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 10, 2012 04:58 PM (sb3kT)
Posted by: Chris at January 10, 2012 04:58 PM (XGZYX)
pfft. romney, paul, if thats what it will be, I will probably go 3rd party unless my state is super close. why encourage that crap? maybe the repub party actually wants to be just dem lite and I have been wrong all along thinking it was just the elites controlling their fiefdoms.
I have seen other people say what I just said and I said it was a vote for Obama. Probably, but I don't see how it will matter either way anymore. Neither party will stop the spending nor the attacks on liberty.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 10, 2012 04:59 PM (JYheX)
Soccer moms! No one wins the presidency unless they're a woman! It's fact!
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 08:59 PM (oZfic) at January 10, 2012 04:59 PM (B2SPW)
Posted by: VOTE FOR DUKE! VOTE FOR DUKE! VOTE FOR DUKE! at January 10, 2012 05:00 PM (/h3en)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 05:00 PM (40rE+)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:00 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Chris at January 10, 2012 08:54 PM (XGZYX)
Give it one or two more primaries. Don't want to jump the gun here.
Posted by: The MFM at January 10, 2012 05:00 PM (KI/Ch)
Everything else is recoverable from.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 05:01 PM (QcFbt)
Bullshit. Many of us are completely happy with our choice of candidate, iffy as that choice may be.
Another option for why folks are undecided or not turning out in droves is because many people don't give a damn who is on the ticket because they are going to vote for whoever is not Obama.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:01 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Jordan at January 10, 2012 05:02 PM (RSG1I)
Posted by: Does size matter? at January 10, 2012 05:02 PM (/MuFf)
I'll happily vote for Romney over Obama. I still won't believe Mormonism is Christian, though.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 08:56 PM (QcFbt)
I'm not convinced either but I'm sure he's a damn sight better than that demonic shit some people call Islam.
I'm looking at you, Obama and Holder.
Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 05:02 PM (qKEux)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 10, 2012 05:02 PM (sb3kT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:02 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Bob Undead Saget at January 10, 2012 08:58 PM (dBvlk)
He said it in his speech tonight. "I will repeal Obamacare"
Posted by: robtr at January 10, 2012 05:03 PM (MtwBb)
I don't care if the next guy is a rattlesnake handler, I'd rather have that that this Muzzsymp.
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 10, 2012 08:57 PM (PddVe)
At least we'd know definitively and objectively that the snake-handler has balls, even if they're short on brains. The JEF seems to be running a deficit on both. In his defense, he has a surplus of self-regard, emotion-based "reasoning", and self-regard. Also, he has self-regard.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 10, 2012 05:03 PM (lJJMb)
51% that voted for Hunstman are satisfied with Obama's performance.
Seriously. And this guy is going to finish in 3rd.
Yeah, but he blew his wad (of cash) in NH.
What's left?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:03 PM (piMMO)
Stupidos, stop spending on the military, and leave people the fk alone at home. That is, end the war on drugs and the war on your biblical view of morality.
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:04 PM (J6liE)
No, I rarely take anything here seriously. Truth be told, I don't have a particular stake in the matter. However, I'm baffled by the idea that any individual, anywhere, including the Bishop of Rome, has the right to determine such things. Excommunication doesn't even involve that.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2012 05:04 PM (jcnm8)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 05:04 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 08:12 PM (QcFbt)
I think Paul pulls many more Obama voters than Repub voters. The young ones that want no military and legal drugs are Obama voters otherwise. The conservative/libertarians who like Paul come from the group that doesn't vote anyway, because they find the establishment type Repub unacceptable. By not vote I mean they vote third party or not at all, same difference.
It's win-win, run Dr. Paul, run!
Posted by: Meremortal at January 10, 2012 05:04 PM (Usk3+)
Posted by: The MFM at January 10, 2012 05:04 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:04 PM (niZvt)
Yeah, and I think that's most of it. Even the leftits I know don't like Obama, but they'll vote for him anyway. Better him than any Republican in their sad little withered minds.
you mean forever.
For the rest of the life of America.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 05:05 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:06 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:06 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Ronster at January 10, 2012 05:06 PM (JGYCE)
And he probably needed a second-place finish tonight instead of distant third. If Huntsman couldn't get that in NH I don't know why he expects to get anywhere in SC or Florida.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 05:07 PM (ad7NF)
A distinction with no difference.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 05:07 PM (HBqDo)
I agree. That youth vote Obama scored last time around. Yeah. Not so much this time.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:07 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 10, 2012 05:07 PM (GZitp)
Ready for a new thread. This will kill this one ;-)
God is three persons: the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit. The Son willingly came to earth to point the way to God and to die for the sin of mankind. Acceptance of that and invitation for Jesus to be Lord and Master of our lives is what makes one a Christian. The belief also includes that the Holy Spirit is God living in us, in our "hearts", in our consciousness. Compare your beliefs against this definition of Christianity to see if your religion concurs. It's not hard, and it's not splitting hairs. Jesus is Lord, it's that simple.
Posted by: marybel at January 10, 2012 05:08 PM (TDe/C)
Posted by: DngrMse at January 10, 2012 05:08 PM (Wzdwz)
They're all loaded up and waiting.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 05:08 PM (r4wIV)
Now let me list every possible VP combo, so you can be amazed at how many names I know! If you're not from New York, you won't know these names!
Romney/Weiner. Romney/Kennedy. Romney/Giuliani. Romney/Gretzky. Romney/Churchill. Romney/Vercingetorix.
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 09:07 PM (oZfic) at January 10, 2012 05:08 PM (B2SPW)
23 Early results show a strong showing by Perry. Are they just screwing with us?
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 10, 2012 06:39 PM (YeIP1)
yes, and it's hilarious.
Posted by: Shoey at January 10, 2012 05:08 PM (m6OUa)
I'm baffled by the idea that there are Protestants that have to take their little war against Catholicism to conservative blogs. This nonsense is why I stopped going to Hot Air.
Posted by: Anony at January 10, 2012 05:09 PM (Yigvc)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:09 PM (niZvt)
Perhaps you meant to say "entities". They can hardly be called "people".
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:09 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:09 PM (J6liE)
I think Paul pulls many more Obama voters than Repub voters. The young ones that want no military and legal drugs are Obama voters otherwise. The conservative/libertarians who like Paul come from the group that doesn't vote anyway, because they find the establishment type Repub unacceptable. By not vote I mean they vote third party or not at all, same difference.
It's win-win, run Dr. Paul, run!
Posted by: Meremortal at January 10, 2012 09:04 PM (Usk3+)
If Raykon be with us, who can be against us?
Posted by: Henry VIII at January 10, 2012 05:09 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 05:09 PM (d6QMz)
That ticket has my vote.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 05:10 PM (r4wIV)
Is there anything on earth that doesn't trigger a thought about sex?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:10 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Ron Paul at January 10, 2012 05:10 PM (fM4AU)
McCain was running on a combination of inevitability mixed with his apparently almost religious fear of badmouthing or hurting fellow Senators. He seems to hold fellow Senators in an almost terrified awe, unwilling to do anything that might upset them or contradict them in any way.
McCain only holds DEMOCRATIC senators in high esteem (Kennedy, Kerry, Feingold, Lieberman), he's had a notoriously vile temper toward almost all Repub senators (except lovely Lindsey Graham, of course). John McCain had only 1 overriding directive in 2008: to prevent any Republican not named McCain from winning the presidency. He succeeded.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at January 10, 2012 05:10 PM (hRH92)
The problem with Islam is that mosque / state thing just mentioned, or more exactly mosque / army. Islam wouldn't know what to do with a state if it got one. It's had states before; `Umar, three courses of Umayyads, the `Abbasids, and all those Shi`ite caliphates. It'd be a cheap shot to say, well, they were Arabs and it's not easy to get discipline and brains out of that lot. The real issue is that humans have their own agendas and Islam demands God's absolute sovereignty on Earth.
Patricia Crone in Slaves and Horses demonstrated the inexorable logic of Islamic statecraft: the Muslim `Abd Allah, the Slave of God, must arm a bunch of his own slaves and trust that they'll not decide to take over. Hilarity inevitably ensues.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 10, 2012 05:10 PM (QQAJP)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 09:09 PM (niZvt)
The one in black or the one in purple?
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:10 PM (smvTK)
There's a difference between "person" and "people" but its a pretty unknown philosophical one.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (r4wIV)
I'm on a kinda slow connection, would someone mind posting the latest results while I sit here like a lardass drinking my Carpineto, Vino Nobile di Montepulciano?
Thanksh somushh
Posted by: Meremortal at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (Usk3+)
He forfeited NH. Wisely so. SC and Florida are the real tests for him. If he doesn't nail at least one of them, he's done.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (J6liE)
Posted by: S Daniel at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (fM4AU)
However, I'm baffled by the idea that any individual, anywhere, including the Bishop of Rome, has the right to determine such things.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2012 09:04 PM (jcnm
Someone has to stand in the gap and as it so happens to be at this place in time, it's Pope Benedict.
Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (qKEux)
Posted by: Jordan at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (RSG1I)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 09:06 PM (niZvt)
FTFY.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:09 PM (J6liE)
I want to time travel to when the field includes Ryan, Rubio, and Jindal. That's what I want.
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at January 10, 2012 05:11 PM (mYdoZ)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:12 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 10, 2012 05:12 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 10, 2012 05:12 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at January 10, 2012 05:13 PM (bnTY4)
Posted by: robtr at January 10, 2012 05:13 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at January 10, 2012 09:10 PM (hRH92)
Fairness: kicking your friends in the nuts early and often
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at January 10, 2012 05:13 PM (mYdoZ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 09:10 PM (piMMO)
If that's a political platform, we need you to stake out your position more clearly.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 05:14 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Pron Raul at January 10, 2012 05:14 PM (ad7NF)
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:14 PM (smvTK)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 05:14 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:14 PM (niZvt)
600 votes for someone who didn't pander to their egos or blow his cash in their state, I don't think that's too bad.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:14 PM (piMMO)
None of this worry about whether what you believe is proper theologically. No worry about faith vs deeds. No fear that you'll lose your faith at the wrong moment with the wrong thought. No paranoia about whether you really believe, or are just pretending to believe. You follow the rules, you get your ticket stamped, papers punched, and you're good to go.
Once you get baptized and confirmed nobody can take that away from you. Not even you. Not even bad thoughts or doubting the existence of god. It's a good deal.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 05:15 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 10, 2012 05:15 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2012 05:16 PM (Z71Vg)
1. NH is a stronghold for the establishment.
2. Years past it used to be far more red than it is today.
I vote we take their keys away.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 05:16 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Mittens! at January 10, 2012 05:16 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 10, 2012 05:16 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: tsj017 at January 10, 2012 05:16 PM (vOH26)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:16 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 10, 2012 05:16 PM (YeIP1)
Is that some obscure double entendre?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 05:17 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:17 PM (smvTK)
Posted by: Jordan at January 10, 2012 05:17 PM (RSG1I)
Posted by: marybel at January 10, 2012 05:17 PM (TDe/C)
Posted by: Ozzie at January 10, 2012 05:17 PM (FcR7P)
And does this mean a run on vinegar?
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 05:18 PM (HBqDo)
In other words, three corporations.
did the parent corporation loot the subsidiary prior to bankruptcy?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 05:18 PM (0q2P7)
For a few moments toward the end I thought they were actually going to kill them all off.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 05:19 PM (ad7NF)
In other words, three corporations.
Posted by: Mittens! at January 10, 2012 09:16 PM (FcR7P)
No, Mittrius, it's more like three divisions of one corporation (or "corpus") which you ceremonially eat, usually with a nice chianti.
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:19 PM (smvTK)
As your secular stand-in for Christ-off sadly banned: I agree with this. If you're a Trinitarian, you're in the mainstream of Christian Tradition going back least to at Irenaeus - maybe even John. Demoting any person from the Trinity means you've forsaken the Tradition. To my knowledge no Protestants have dared do that. (In fact, Protestant apologists quote Patristics too. I've noticed a fondness for Tertullian especially.)
I'm not getting into whether the Arians or Gnostics were right, theologically. But if they are right, then Christianity is wrong. A non-Trinitarian position is simply incompatible with the genius of the New Testament and Patristics.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 10, 2012 05:19 PM (QQAJP)
Although I'll have to check the new 5th edition ruleset. I don't think baptisms stack anymore.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 05:20 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: Jordan at January 10, 2012 09:17 PM (RSG1I)
No, you're still wormfood.
Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 05:20 PM (qKEux)
Posted by: eman at January 10, 2012 05:20 PM (dWuuB)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 10, 2012 09:16 PM (UR5vq)"
Conservatives hate freedom if they are not dictating it.
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:20 PM (J6liE)
Depends on how big her ass is.
Posted by: Berserker at January 10, 2012 05:20 PM (FMbng)
If you think that's manly I'm suspending your man card for a week starting right now.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 05:20 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:20 PM (niZvt)
Is that some obscure double entendre?
LOL. No.. We inherited my daughters rabbit when she moved to Colorado. We didnt have the heart to take him to a shelter where he would surely wither away and die. So.. we have a rabbit. His name is Hef. My daughter has a sense of humor.
Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2012 05:21 PM (Z71Vg)
Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 05:21 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:21 PM (J6liE)
That got nerfed in the last patch, it was unbalanced in PVP.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 05:22 PM (r4wIV)
How long could Paul last with the blond chick sitting over his mouth and nostrils?
That's me, so I can find out if you like!
Posted by: sally may b at January 10, 2012 05:22 PM (Usk3+)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 05:23 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 09:20 PM (niZvt)
Heh
Priceless
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 05:23 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2012 05:23 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 05:23 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: Jerry at January 10, 2012 06:33 PM (fOmkv)
Prediction, you'll be calling me, to ask if you can come and visit him, before the month is out.
Posted by: Gavin at January 10, 2012 05:23 PM (k34Gz)
We had rabbits when I was a kid. I named one Bunny Sadr. You can guess when that was.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2012 05:24 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 10, 2012 05:24 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:24 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 05:25 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2012 05:25 PM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:25 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 05:25 PM (GBxvs)
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at January 10, 2012 05:25 PM (smvTK)
A part of all Mormon undead is practically invincible now.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 05:25 PM (QcFbt)
So your kind can go and create a beast on earth? No thanks, and I'm not even religious. Besides, you leftist cockholsters have more fucking god/masters than the god damn ancient egyptians did, you're just too fucking stupid to see it.
Posted by: Berserker at January 10, 2012 05:25 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:21 PM (J6liE)
We could make a deal. We quit supporting our imaginary beast. You quit supporting the candidate that's scared of the Bilderbergers and the North American Union.
Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 05:26 PM (v5FAc)
>>Conservatives hate freedom if they are not dictating it.
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:20 PM (J6liE)
Your nic slaps down all of your remarks.
Are you multi tasking as well you fucking freak?
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 05:26 PM (HBqDo)
No? Here's mine!
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 09:24 PM (niZvt)"
Are you as a conservative degrading women again?
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:26 PM (J6liE)
Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 05:26 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 05:26 PM (1PXIb)
Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2012 05:27 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 09:15 PM (QcFbt)
Not so fast. One can easily turn from God and do evil things.
Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 05:27 PM (qKEux)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:28 PM (niZvt)
I'm going to think about canning apricots.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 10, 2012 06:35 PM (BhuDE)
Those outlaws just don't know how to take "no" for an answer.
Posted by: Jack Nicholson at January 10, 2012 05:28 PM (k34Gz)
How 'bout that.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 05:29 PM (ad7NF)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 10, 2012 05:29 PM (CLIf7)
Posted by: S Daniel at January 10, 2012 05:29 PM (fM4AU)
Posted by: Todd Palin at January 10, 2012 05:29 PM (7A0m5)
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at January 10, 2012 09:25 PM (smvTK)
here someone asked "which country, china?"
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 05:29 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:30 PM (smvTK)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:30 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 10, 2012 05:30 PM (CLIf7)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:21 PM (J6liE)
If this beast is telling me to vote against RAWN PAWL, I think I'm going to listen to him thank you very much
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at January 10, 2012 05:30 PM (mYdoZ)
That, and that they think that evolution magically ended 70,000 years ago.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 10, 2012 05:30 PM (QQAJP)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 09:30 PM (niZvt)
To go to Huntsman's speech.....
Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2012 05:30 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Ken Royall at January 10, 2012 05:31 PM (umam+)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 05:31 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 09:31 PM (oZfic) at January 10, 2012 05:31 PM (TAzuU)
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:31 PM (smvTK)
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 10, 2012 05:31 PM (1PXIb)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 05:32 PM (GBxvs)
Posted by: Jordan at January 10, 2012 05:32 PM (RSG1I)
Cool facts about Ron Paul:
Ron Paul once yelled at a neighboorhood kid to "Stay off my lawn!" That kid grew up to be John McCain.
Posted by: Cincinnatus at January 10, 2012 05:32 PM (OhQo2)
Palin™ on Fox sounding awfully high on RON PAUL! again, for the second week in a row.
How 'bout that.
Then she is finally, once and for all, truly toast. Good riddance.
Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2012 05:33 PM (Z71Vg)
damn it, get that camera on the hot daughter...
Posted by: Shoey at January 10, 2012 09:32 PM (m6OUa)
That's the brunette, not the blonde with the overabundance of lipstick?
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:33 PM (smvTK)
Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2012 05:33 PM (FcR7P)
That and the Church's embrace of heavy drinking.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 05:33 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: Ken Royall at January 10, 2012 05:33 PM (umam+)
Posted by: Jordan at January 10, 2012 09:32 PM (RSG1I)
I think the recharge for the full shout, once you've unlocked all three words of power, is around 60 minutes.
Posted by: Ted Haggarty at January 10, 2012 05:34 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 10, 2012 05:34 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: Shoey at January 10, 2012 05:34 PM (m6OUa)
Posted by: Shoey at January 10, 2012 05:35 PM (m6OUa)
Posted by: Shoey at January 10, 2012 09:34 PM (m6OUa)
"Time to bring the troops home from Ass-Ganistan!" -- What's HE thinkin' about?
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:35 PM (smvTK)
Posted by: Jon Huntsman at January 10, 2012 05:35 PM (ad7NF)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:35 PM (J6liE)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:35 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 10, 2012 09:29 PM (CLIf7)
True but I'd hate to be in front of God and have to explain why I was an asshole.
Posted by: ErikW at January 10, 2012 05:36 PM (qKEux)
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:36 PM (smvTK)
Posted by: mpfs at January 10, 2012 05:37 PM (HmZoH)
Posted by: Ken Royall at January 10, 2012 05:37 PM (umam+)
Watching him talk is like being at my family reunions. Lot of drunken pale people ranting about politics.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 05:38 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 10, 2012 05:38 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Ken Royall at January 10, 2012 05:38 PM (umam+)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 05:38 PM (V6fqC)
Simple, we'll go to the polls and vote for him.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 05:38 PM (ad7NF)
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:38 PM (smvTK)
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 09:36 PM (smvTK)
Sure, try that line without your daughters behind you Jonny.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 10, 2012 05:39 PM (HBqDo)
Please explain to me how Mittens is going to carry the deep south. Just wondering.
He won't. The race is about to get interesting now that we got the two loony states taken care of.
Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2012 05:39 PM (Z71Vg)
Posted by: Shoey at January 10, 2012 05:39 PM (m6OUa)
And also restoring Christianity to the original vision as explained in the Book of Mormon.
Huntsman will campaign on vodka tonics.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 05:40 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 10, 2012 05:41 PM (X3vSL)
Posted by: January at January 10, 2012 05:41 PM (j9etX)
Too late!
I keed! I keed!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:41 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 05:42 PM (h+qn8)
Obama.
Posted by: Deep South at January 10, 2012 09:39 PM (fM4AU)
Yep, that's pretty much it. TN will vote for Obama...to be shot from a giant cannon, aimed at the sun. This isn't even a very conservative state, when statewide politics are taken into account. It's just that the national democrat party has moved so far left that he has no chance here, or in other southern states.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 10, 2012 05:43 PM (lJJMb)
Is there a Baltimore Catechism for the Mormon faith. You've all made me curious about it and I want to read about it. I've heard stuff about magic underwear and inbreeding like the Amish since you can only marry a mormon apparently. I've also heard no alcohol like the lutherans but huntsman had a side table full of beer.
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 05:44 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 10, 2012 05:45 PM (V6fqC)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:45 PM (a1DlD)
Been there, done that.
Posted by: The Mamelukes at January 10, 2012 05:46 PM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:45 PM (a1DlD)
There is only one King of kings and it isn't Mittens romney.
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 05:47 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:45 PM (a1DlD)
We don't...we just hate you, ray.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 10, 2012 05:47 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:45 PM (a1DlD)
And.... ?
Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 05:48 PM (v5FAc)
Right now, flip flopping looks a damn sight better than someone who stands firmly in his beliefs that the country sucks and he must destroy it.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 05:49 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Max Power is the Dunning–Kruger effect made flesh at January 10, 2012 05:49 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at January 10, 2012 09:45 PM (qjUnn)
uhm, i'm pretty depressed about it, i was hoping for a tough conservative that likes this country.
i had thought this was an election that that might pull us out of the suffering we seemed on a collision course with .
Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 05:50 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Max Power is the Dunning–Kruger effect made flesh at January 10, 2012 05:50 PM (q177U)
You're Ray. We all got together and decided Bunk was a stupid name, so we're going to call you "Ray."
Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 05:50 PM (v5FAc)
Remember all the stupids with their flip flops chanting those incredibly deft words at the convention?
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:51 PM (a1DlD)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 05:52 PM (oZfic)
Remember all the stupids with their flip flops chanting those incredibly deft words at the convention?
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 09:51 PM (a1DlD)
You go, Ray. Testify.
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 05:53 PM (smvTK)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 05:53 PM (GBxvs)
You seem to expecting somebody to contradict this statement. I'm not sure why.
Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 05:53 PM (v5FAc)
Posted by: cackfinger at January 10, 2012 05:54 PM (a9mQu)
Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2012 05:54 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 05:55 PM (a1DlD)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at January 10, 2012 05:55 PM (ad7NF)
Seriously you people. In a room full of hookers with herpes, Romney's the only one with crabs. If you've got to fuck one of them it's not that hard a choice.
If Romney picks a conservative VP like Rubio, he's basically choosing his successor. Winning in 2012 is just the beginning of a long slog out of this shit. Get it together furfuksake.
Posted by: the dandy at January 10, 2012 05:55 PM (39uXS)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 05:57 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 05:57 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 05:58 PM (GBxvs)
Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 05:59 PM (h+qn8)
And there's some other guy named Gingrich who just fired up, too.
Oddly enough (or perhaps not) nobody cares.
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 06:00 PM (smvTK)
Romney is a fascist and a true flip flopper.
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:00 PM (a1DlD)
Posted by: January at January 10, 2012 06:02 PM (j9etX)
Posted by: Triple Lindy at January 10, 2012 06:03 PM (jiwQf)
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 06:04 PM (smvTK)
Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 06:05 PM (h+qn8)
Personally, seems like at least for cauci, if not also pure primaries where no other issues are involved (aka no violation of poll tax since it's a party vote not a public vote), there ought to be some requirement that those participating put some skin (aka $$) into the game towards the party of the candidates you vote for in to defray party costs for the election as well as to help promote future party activities. That would quickly cut down on Crossover Chaos efforts that do little but create greater chasms between the parties.
It might also help keep deviant losers of the primary process from considering 3rd party runs as their followers would have been tapped for another Party.
Bottomline, radicals of any sort would rarely put out money directly support their opposition -- free is fine, not free is another issue.
Posted by: drfredc at January 10, 2012 06:07 PM (F9M0P)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 06:07 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: troyriser at January 10, 2012 06:08 PM (YCeSE)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:09 PM (a1DlD)
Being poised to take back the Senate and drive the agenda through Congress is a check on Romney's liberal leanings the way I look at it. Down ticket races are just as important as winning the White House. If people are going to sit it out over hurt feelings or purity or whatever and not give us a strong majority in the Senate that will let us control what hits his desk, we deserve what we get.
I don't like much about Romney, but I do like that he's not pandering to me.
Posted by: the dandy at January 10, 2012 06:10 PM (39uXS)
Posted by: Greg at January 10, 2012 06:10 PM (pftd6)
Romney is a fascist and a true flip flopper.
Beats the shit out of me.
Posted by: Ron Paul at January 10, 2012 10:06 PM (Usk3+)
Oh come on, at least Romney's not an active, avowed apologists for fascists. He'll never beat you, sir.
Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 06:11 PM (v5FAc)
DeMint predicts Romney win in SC
Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 06:11 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: sally may at January 10, 2012 06:11 PM (oZfic)
i agree with this.
nobody is asking to be pandered to here, we just aren't assured He will fight the Rights battles, and He will absolutely Have to.
Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 06:12 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 10:09 PM (a1DlD)
Seriously, Art, there comes a time when you will have to Embrace The Suck. Yeah, All Republicans Suck. Democrats Suck More. Libertarians are objectively (sic) correct but are utterly clueless when it actually comes to politics. Hence, The Suck. We Are So Screwed.
Posted by: filbert at January 10, 2012 06:12 PM (smvTK)
It's true. I commanded a daring expedition to retake Boston Harbor in 2004.
Posted by: Senator Lurch at January 10, 2012 06:12 PM (ad7NF)
Posted by: Greg at January 10, 2012 10:10 PM (pftd6)
And there won't be a wave either.
Posted by: Also Greg at January 10, 2012 06:13 PM (ad7NF)
Romney loves the military, although never having served, he loves big business and it's power over government, and uses the courts and will use the police to enforce its dictates.
Walks like a fascist, talks like a fascist, must be a fascist.
Ron Paul for president.
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:15 PM (a1DlD)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 10:09 PM (a1DlD)
Seriously, Art, there comes a time when you will have to Embrace The Suck. Yeah, All Republicans Suck. Democrats Suck More.
The Democrats love freedom except if it involves your wallet or foreigners. There's nothing a Democrat hates more than the U.S. exerting time, money, and men to make foreigners free.
Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 06:16 PM (v5FAc)
I honestly wasn't implying you or others want to be pandered to, what I meant by that was what Newt, Perry and Huntsman are doing right now is pandering. What baffles me is who they are pandering to. They've basically forced me into the Romney column because I can forgive a lot of blue state foibles that a conservative Congress won't let him repeat, but I will never forgive those three for what they are saying now.
Posted by: the dandy at January 10, 2012 06:18 PM (39uXS)
They need to learn to take care of themselves...
Isnt that what freedom is all about, taking care of your self and not depending on others?
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:19 PM (a1DlD)
Yeah, but at least he's not an apologist for actual fascists...I mean avowed self-declared fascists, like your guy.
(I realize you're actually an Obama supporter, not a Paul guy, but let's pretend. Given Obama's anxiety over us attacking the Baathists, that also doesn't help him that much.)
Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 06:20 PM (v5FAc)
Posted by: troyriser at January 10, 2012 06:20 PM (YCeSE)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:22 PM (a1DlD)
YOU LIE
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:24 PM (a1DlD)
Isnt that what freedom is all about, taking care of your self and not depending on others?
Response 1.) I dunno, ask the French during the American Revolution.
Response 2.) Yeah, freedom's all about doing whatever the guy who has a gun to your head tells you to do...as long as he's a local guy, not a foreigner.
Posted by: AD at January 10, 2012 06:24 PM (v5FAc)
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Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 06:25 PM (h+qn8)
We all live longer, think about Dear Leader Ronny 20 years ago.
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:26 PM (a1DlD)
Posted by: willow at January 10, 2012 06:26 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 06:30 PM (a1DlD)
Posted by: troyriser at January 10, 2012 06:38 PM (YCeSE)
Posted by: poljunkie at January 10, 2012 07:24 PM (XuiJf)
Is there a Baltimore Catechism for the Mormon faith. You've all made me curious about it and I want to read about it. I've heard stuff about magic underwear and inbreeding like the Amish since you can only marry a mormon apparently. I've also heard no alcohol like the lutherans but huntsman had a side table full of beer.
Posted by: sally may
No catechism. You can go here for a very basic explanation of what Mormons believe:
http://mormon.org/faq/
Its *very* basic, but it does cover most of the basic stuff.
Here are the Mormon Articles of Faith, although they're not exactly a full catechism or anything:
http://tinyurl.com/2asrxrv
I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can.
Mormons who've been to the Mormon temple wear special underclothing that reminds us of our covenants with God. We call them 'garments,' short for 'temple garments.' There are Mormon urban legends about people not being injured while wearing them, which is probably where the stuff about them being "magic" comes from.
Mormons have a unique form of marriage in the Mormon temples that is "time and eternity" instead of "till death do us part." Its only for Mormons marrying Mormons. Otherwise Mormons can marry anybody in a regular wedding ceremony in the church. I just attended a regular Mormon 'till death do you part' wedding last week. Probably about 1/3 to 1/2 of believing Mormons get married in the temples. Mormons have a high conversion rate and there are probably a few million believing Mormons in the US anyway, so inbreeding isn't a problem.
Committed mormons don't drink alcohol. You can't go to the temple if you do, for instance, and just as a sociological matter it would be pretty unlikely for a regular church-going Mormon to drink. Huntsman is ambivalent about being a Mormon and has stated that he has the occasional glass of wine.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Non-Christian for Jesus at January 10, 2012 08:02 PM (baC5d)
Posted by: Bunk at January 10, 2012 10:23 PM (a1DlD)
My response: They don't love war Ray. They just know that the world doesn't revolve around Ron Paul's fantasies. There are countries and individuals that intend to do the US serious harm and we learned the lesson of WWII. Isolationism in this day and age is ignorance compounded with stupidity and topped with denial.
Posted by: Big Al at January 10, 2012 08:33 PM (UWp/G)
And by Liberty, I mean keepin' The Man from hasslin' me when I wanna get a noseful, you know?
Stupid cons, with your Bible and low opinion of strung-out druggie freaks!
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