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April 30, 2012

New Poll: Obama Starting Strong With Jewish Vote*
— CAC

*Not mentioned in headline: Obama sees a 16 point drop in support from 2008 share (77%). President Obama currently grabs a significantly smaller share than Kerry (74%) or Gore (79%) as well. But I guess that headline would be uncomfortable.

Posted by: CAC at 06:37 AM | Comments (153)
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1 He'll still pull 70% on election day, but hopefully a lot of jews will just stay home.

Posted by: bannor, voting Sweet Meteor of Death 2012 at April 30, 2012 06:39 AM (HEa5q)

2 Good thing Debbie Wasserman Schultz and her outreach team still have the Jewbag vote still locked up for me!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at April 30, 2012 06:41 AM (v+QvA)

3 This coming election will show the true baseline idiocy level of the USA and it Mexican guest voters. The polls coming out tell us very little about the final outcome.

Posted by: eman at April 30, 2012 06:41 AM (YrBvI)

4 Why do I get the distinct feeling that a lot of people considered Jewish Americans by pollsters are the kinds of people who declare that they support Israel "when they're not acting like assholes", as one particular leftist was caught on tape declaring a few years back?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 30, 2012 06:41 AM (e0xKF)

5 Yeah. Vote for the muslim sympathizer. That'll work out well for you.

Posted by: Dagny at April 30, 2012 06:42 AM (4yXmp)

6 61% of American Jews must also look forward to the coming destruction of Israel.

Posted by: Cicero at April 30, 2012 06:43 AM (QKKT0)

7 They're libs first. There is something about communism that sucks out your soul.

Posted by: Dagny at April 30, 2012 06:43 AM (4yXmp)

8 Knowing that he is funding the PLO in spite of a law against it, i don't see how any Jew can support this guy. I actually don't see how any American can support him anymore but 61%? It's pathetic.

Posted by: Boxy Brown at April 30, 2012 06:43 AM (pIovm)

9 I was just reading through the Holocaust thread below. Weird juxtaposition, that. Kinda sorta same topic, my son goes to Boy Scouts, there is a kid there who always wears a Chairman Mao T-shirt. I am thinking he is unclear on the concept. I think a lot of people are unclear on the concept. I see the big honking SUV's with the Obama stickers, and I just wonder.

Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2012 06:44 AM (7vSU0)

10 Why do I get the distinct feeling that a lot of people considered Jewish Americans by pollsters are the kinds of people who declare that they support Israel "when they're not acting like assholes", as one particular leftist was caught on tape declaring a few years back?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 30, 2012 10:41 AM (e0xKF)

In their lexicon, I suppose "acting like assholes" mean acting in their national self-interest and protecting themselves against terrorist savages who want them nothing less than exterminated.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 30, 2012 06:44 AM (v+QvA)

11 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 06:46 AM (8y9MW)

12 The Jewish support for today's Dems and SCOAMF are those who think FDR was a saint and believe Noam Chomsky and Saul Alinsky are deep, intellectual thinkers. In other words, the religion of liberalism trumps everything else.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 30, 2012 06:46 AM (Af3Wg)

13 It's stunning what people don't know about Israel, the west bank, the gaza strip, et al. They think exactly the opposite of the truth. They have NO fucking idea what the truth is and don't believe you when you tell them. I'm always stunned that someone in their 40s can exist that has missed out on facts since their childhood.

Posted by: Dagny at April 30, 2012 06:47 AM (4yXmp)

14 Who took this poll and where? I assure you that 50% of the Scottsbluff, NE Jewish community is violently anti-Obama.

Posted by: Bob the Jew of Scottsbluff at April 30, 2012 06:48 AM (SBjsJ)

15 Obama always observes kashrut when preparing dog.

Posted by: Cicero at April 30, 2012 06:48 AM (QKKT0)

16 "Among respondents who attend synagogue at least once a week, only 52 percent said they would vote for Obama."

Posted by: mama winger at April 30, 2012 06:48 AM (P6QsQ)

17 In other words, the religion of liberalism trumps everything else. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 30, 2012 10:46 AM (Af3Wg) Liberalism is a mental illness. That is the only way I can explain my fellow "jews" voting for obama. G-D it makes me sick to my stomach

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2012 06:48 AM (i6RpT)

18 Who took this poll and where? I assure you that 50% of the Scottsbluff, NE Jewish community is violently anti-Obama.

Posted by: Bob the Jew of Scottsbluff at April 30, 2012 10:48 AM (SBjsJ)

You need to do more to convince the other Scottsbluff Jew.

Posted by: Cicero at April 30, 2012 06:49 AM (QKKT0)

19 "Majorities of respondents said they preferred Democrats over Republicans on every single issue on which they were queried"

Posted by: mama winger at April 30, 2012 06:49 AM (P6QsQ)

20 They are yellow dog Democrats. They and their families have always voted Democrat and they will either vote for Obama or sit at home.

What they will not do is vote for a Republican. Note that even though Obama dropped in that poll Romney has not gathered all of that drop from what McShitty got in 2008.

And besides that, it is far to early for that poll to be accurate.

Posted by: Vic at April 30, 2012 06:50 AM (YdQQY)

21
But...but...he ate Lassie!

Posted by: Wide eyed boy at April 30, 2012 06:51 AM (gppu7)

22 You need to do more to convince the other Scottsbluff Jew.

Posted by: Cicero at April 30, 2012 10:49 AM (QKKT0)

One of them moved to Gering, and the other two are now in Bridgeport.

Posted by: jwb7605 at April 30, 2012 06:51 AM (Qxe/p)

23 "Among respondents who attend synagogue at least once a week, only 52 percent said they would vote for Obama." Posted by: mama winger at April 30, 2012 10:48 AM (P6QsQ) Actually I doubt that is accurate. I doubt amongst weekly attendies at a synagogue it is that high. Weekly attendance would indicate more of an orthodox or very conservative Jews and they are not voting Democratic. Unless they are defining synagogue real "liberally" and are including JCC attendance --then yeah it might be 52%

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2012 06:52 AM (i6RpT)

OT- IÂ’m having some work done on the wireless router and connections trying to get faster downloads. Comcast had some promotional deal on better service, but IÂ’d like to know if anyone out there checks their speed (IÂ’m using speedtest.net) and what do they get with what type of service. ItÂ’s hard to tell if IÂ’m getting screwed or not.

Right now, with the low end upgrade from Comcast IÂ’m getting 16.5mps download and about 10 Â– 11mps upload, which is better than before but still not great.

Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2012 06:52 AM (ZDsRL)

25 Hopefully a number of Jewish democrats will stay home as a silent protest. They can't vote for a Republican but they don't have to vote for a Democrat they don't like.

Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at April 30, 2012 06:52 AM (RD7QR)

26 "Majorities of respondents said they preferred Democrats over Republicans on every single issue on which they were queried"

On what issues were they queried? How best to prepare dog? What wine pairs best with Dachshund?

I took a call from a pollster (showed up on my caller Id as AFL-CIO). None of their questions were misleading, but some of the prompts were mis-matched from the order they gave the options in a given question: for example, if they mentioned A, B, and C as options in the question, they might say "Press 1 for A, Press 2 for C, or press 3 for B."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 06:53 AM (8y9MW)

27 Liberalism is a mental illness. That is the only way I can explain my fellow "jews" voting for obama. G-D it makes me sick to my stomach

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2012 10:48 AM (i6RpT)

Same here about my fellow "Catholics." Also I never understood the Catholics that worked against Israel, I always thought we were on the same team.

Posted by: NC Ref at April 30, 2012 06:53 AM (/izg2)

28 Same here about my fellow "Catholics." Also I never understood the Catholics that worked against Israel, I always thought we were on the same team. Posted by: NC Ref at April 30, 2012 10:53 AM (/izg2) Yeah I hear ya. Here in NJ Catholics and Jews mostly are.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2012 06:55 AM (i6RpT)

29 The article I mentioned in the headline thread (about how he has had more fundraisers than all presidents since Nixon combined) is also telling: That many fundraisers, basically never leaving the election stump, always in front of his most loyal supporters--and he is this weak after all that?
Three years of total campaign, all the time, the only thing he is good at, and his support across the board is down, down, down.

(Just like he used to do in a certain bathhouse in Chicago.)

Posted by: jimmuy at April 30, 2012 06:56 AM (kSaUf)

30 The same exact Jews who told everyone to vote for David Dinkins. Then went in the booth and yanked the lever for Rudy. Polls ain't worth shit this time around.

Posted by: BP at April 30, 2012 06:58 AM (ph70Q)

31 Same here about my fellow "Catholics." Also I never understood the Catholics that worked against Israel, I always thought we were on the same team.

Posted by: NC Ref at April 30, 2012 10:53 AM (/izg2)

I discovered yesterday that not adhering to the exact dogma of any particular religious sect dooms one to hell, so it really doesn't pay to try understanding any of that stuff.

Posted by: jwb7605 at April 30, 2012 06:58 AM (Qxe/p)

32 I discovered yesterday that not adhering to the exact dogma of any particular religious sect dooms one to hell

Wait. What?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 06:59 AM (8y9MW)

33 Soetoro decline deniers.

Posted by: Tough,Tougher,Crunchy at April 30, 2012 06:59 AM (c3mby)

34 nc i'm embarrassed that the country of my ancestors.....ireland....is so anti israel....makes me sick to my stomach.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 30, 2012 06:59 AM (Ho2rs)

35 11 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

This!

I just really come here for a daily dose of.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 30, 2012 06:59 AM (Qxdfp)

36 Well, you would hope that Friday document dump would do something to sway their vote.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 30, 2012 06:59 AM (piMMO)

37 Killing babies in the womb is THE most important "freedom" to a HUGE segment of dem voters.

Sick. Ain't it?

Posted by: Dang at April 30, 2012 06:59 AM (Ky1+e)

38 Yellow dog democrats. They'll vote for him even if he ate a yellow dog.

Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2012 06:59 AM (7vSU0)

39 ItÂ’s a lesson the Obama campaign seems already to have taken to heart. Obama has spoken three times in the last six months to Jewish audiences and has always emphasized IsraelÂ’s security, whatever the forum Â– whether it was Union for Reform Judaism in December, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee in March or U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in April.

The approach appears to be paying off among Jewish voters. The AJC poll showed Obama scored 58 percent approval in how he managed the U.S.-Israel relationship and 69 percent in how he handled national security. Last September just 40 percent of respondents to an AJC poll approved of his handling of the relationship with Israel.

So Barry runs around and panders for a few months before the election and people are buying into it? Compare what he's actually done to his empty words. How can anyone believe his BS?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 30, 2012 06:59 AM (1Jaio)

40
But Intrade has Obama up by 20%!!!!!!!!!!

mornin' jackwagons

Posted by: In before the troll at April 30, 2012 06:59 AM (ofIpS)

41 The Hasidic/Orthodox jews will not vote for obama.Although, many hasidics are skeptical of mormons. Majority of jews are just lost progressives

Posted by: Lampshade at April 30, 2012 07:00 AM (lkdo/)

42 i'm embarrassed that the country of my ancestors.....ireland....is so anti israel

In fairness, Ireland is more-or-less "anti-anyone-but-Ireland." So it's not like they're singling Israel out, there.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 07:00 AM (8y9MW)

43 WHERE THE HELL DID RUM GO!

Posted by: Suddenly Only 100 Dalmatians at April 30, 2012 07:00 AM (IJUs7)

44 I just really come here for a daily dose of.

I try not to disappoint.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 07:00 AM (8y9MW)

45 Wait. What?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 10:59 AM (8y9MW)

I made the egregious error of saying I thought the earth was more than 6000 years old.

I'm a heretic, apparently.

Posted by: jwb7605 at April 30, 2012 07:01 AM (Qxe/p)

"ItÂ’s a lesson the Obama campaign seems already to have taken to heart. Obama has spoken three times in the last six months to Jewish audiences and has always emphasized IsraelÂ’s security, whatever the forum Â– whether it was Union for Reform Judaism in December, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee in March or U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in April."

As should be done with any politician, pay attention to what they do, not what they say.

The few American Jews who can actually get over their reflexive Democrat vote are swinging to the conservatives side. Just don't ask them to admit it in public.

Posted by: West at April 30, 2012 07:01 AM (1Rgee)

47 If Obama "only" gets 61% of the Jewish vote in Florida then he's in real trouble in that state. Kerry in 2004 did a lot better with that demographic and yet still lost that state by over 350,000 votes.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at April 30, 2012 07:01 AM (r2PLg)

48 no allen....ireland is PRO PALESTINIAN.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 30, 2012 07:02 AM (Ho2rs)

49 I'm a heretic, apparently.

Oh. Well, yes you are, then. (kidding).

I love the look on people's faces when I ask, "Does it matter?"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 07:02 AM (8y9MW)

50 no allen....ireland is PRO PALESTINIAN..... Posted by: phoenixgirl

Another reason to hate ireland? I'll take it.

Posted by: Dang at April 30, 2012 07:03 AM (Ky1+e)

51 NO, REALLY!!! WHAT HAPPENED TO RUM?

Posted by: Suddenly Only 100 Dalmatians at April 30, 2012 07:04 AM (IJUs7)

52 WHAT HAPPENED TO RUM?

*burp*

I dunno. Blame Bush.

Posted by: Barack Obama, Dog Eater at April 30, 2012 07:04 AM (8y9MW)

53 /bashes Irish-Catholic head against the desk

Posted by: NC Ref at April 30, 2012 07:05 AM (/izg2)

My first thought was holy crap that's a huge drop.

I took a call from a pollster (showed up on my caller Id as AFL-CIO).

I got a push poll call yesterday on the gay marriage constitutional amendment that's on the ballot for May (oh fml) and at least this time I didn't make the pollster cry so I guess that means I'm a better person. My response of none of the above to the various options really threw the poor guy though.

Here's a random question, what does the Horde think of early voting? Voting day for the primaries and the aforementioned constitutional amendment (oh fml) is on May 8th but you can vote earlier. I don't know what I think about that. I kind of prefer making voting a bit of a big deal because it should be a big deal.

Also I want an I Voted sticker. The only reason to vote as soon as the polls open is to get the I Voted sticker and brag about it all day long.

Posted by: alexthechick at April 30, 2012 07:05 AM (VtjlW)

55 I though Jews bred for brains?

I think I said it a couple of months ago: The Zombies have discovered farming.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 07:05 AM (8y9MW)

56 Hey!!! Hey!!! What's the difference between a turkey and a Jew? When the turkey's finished cooking in the oven, you don't get gold teeth!!! Hey-ohhhhh! Thanks folks, I'll be here all year!!!! Oh, and be sure to tip the Palestinians!!!!

Posted by: President Shecky O'Dog-gobbler at April 30, 2012 07:06 AM (XBdI0)

57 Bush II got 25% in 2004, the most since Bush I got 33% in 1988. Romney is on track to do the best of any GOP presidential candidate with Jewish voters in 24 years, and considering this poll has 11% undecided, he even has an outside chance of beating that number and turning in the best performance since Reagan's 39% in 1980, 32 years ago.

Posted by: SomeHistory at April 30, 2012 07:06 AM (NM/r0)

58 I kind of prefer making voting a bit of a big deal because it should be a big deal.

I used to like it. The more I think about it, and the more I learn, the more I hate it. If you're not motivated enough to get there on election day (or get your mail-in ballot), then you're not motivated enough to know what the F you're voting about- and I don't want my informed vote to be diluted by your uninformed vote.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 07:07 AM (8y9MW)

59 Another reason to hate ireland? I'll take it.

They made Rock Ridge go totally into the shitter.

Posted by: Olson Johnson at April 30, 2012 07:07 AM (QKKT0)

#23 Nevergiveup

"Weekly attendance would indicate more of an orthodox or very conservative Jews"

My experience with my fellow "Conservative" Jews is that the label is a misnomer; that is, they tend to be VERY liberal WRT social issues (gay marriage, Obamneycare, etc).

As someone else mentioned, they are libs first, Jews second (at best).

Posted by: speedster1 at April 30, 2012 07:07 AM (v40Bj)

61 I really miss spaces.

Posted by: speedster1 at April 30, 2012 07:07 AM (v40Bj)

62 I taught the Kikes to shut up and vote Democrat, and they have learned the lesson well.

So what if I let Hitler kill 6,000,000 Jews? American Jews can assuage their guilt for being successful and having Black maids. It makes them feel good about themselves to vote Democrat.

Posted by: Franklin Delano Roosevelt at April 30, 2012 07:07 AM (nEUpB)

63 Early voting sucks. Too much opportunity to fuck with the ballots.

Posted by: NC Ref at April 30, 2012 07:08 AM (/izg2)

64 I though Jews bred for brains? That's what they always tell me when I point out that they are typically short, bald, and on the ugly side. There's something I'm missing. Posted by: runninrebel at April 30, 2012 11:04 AM (N/1Dm) ??? I'm short but got plenty of hair. As far as the ugly part? I never had to wait for last call to git me my women

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2012 07:08 AM (i6RpT)

65 Hey!!! Hey!!! My teleprompter got the joke wrong!!!! What's the difference between a pit bull and a Jew? When the pit bull's finished cooking in the oven, you don't get gold teeth!!! Hey-ohhhhhh! Forward, bitches!!!

Posted by: President Shecky O'Dog-gobbler at April 30, 2012 07:10 AM (XBdI0)

66 I think I said it a couple of months ago: The Zombies have discovered farming.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 11:05 AM (8y9MW)

Yes. They have. http://tinyurl.com/85mqfz8
My bad. That was by Zombie, not a Zombie.

Posted by: jwb7605 at April 30, 2012 07:10 AM (Qxe/p)

67 In other words, the religion of liberalism trumps everything else.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 30, 2012 10:46 AM (Af3Wg)

I totally agree. It doesn't matter what their religion is. Liberals will piss in the face of their own faith to promote the leftist agenda

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 30, 2012 07:11 AM (1Jaio)

68 Right now, with the low end upgrade from Comcast IÂ’m getting 16.5mps download and about 10 Â– 11mps upload, which is better than before but still not great.

****

I do not have the high-end service, it's the Performance package with "Powerboost" added since I also use Comcast t.v.. I'm sitting about 30' from the wireless router which is behind a closed door. Presently, speedtest shows:

27ms
23.54 download
4.16 upload

I have absolutely no problem streaming movies on my laptop or over Roku's wireless connection.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 30, 2012 07:11 AM (piMMO)

69 Join the #Forward movement:

President Barack Obama's reelection campaign is out with a new slogan today Â— "Forward." Â— as part of a seven minute video highlighting the president's accomplishments in his first term.

The message is reminiscent of the MSNBC slogan "Lean Forward," and is intended to provide a more optimistic message to a campaign so far defined by "we're better than the other guy."

The video features a listing of Obama's legislative achievements, obstructionist Republicans, and, of course, the killing of Osama Bin Laden.

According to the Obama campaign, the video will be played at President Obama's first campaign rallies on Saturday.

Republicans are attempting to co-opt the slogan on social media, with RNC Press Secretary Kirsten Kukowski sending out nine bullet points, including: "Under Obama's budget, Americans can look #FORWARD to $1.9 trillion in higher taxes."

Referencing the Fox slogan "Fair and Balanced," MSNBC Morning Joe anchor Joe Scarborough quipped this morning: "So is Mitt Romney's slogan going to be 'Balanced'? ... They're taking MSNBC's slogan."

http://tinyurl.com/7nyyhps

Posted by: momma at April 30, 2012 07:11 AM (oKsWl)

70 Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2012 10:52 AM (ZDsRL)

I get about 20-35 download and a very consistent 5 upload with Cablevision Boost.

Posted by: Franklin Delano Roosevelt at April 30, 2012 07:12 AM (nEUpB)

71 Sorry, crappy formatting.

ugh.

Posted by: momma at April 30, 2012 07:12 AM (oKsWl)

72 Suck it, Greg

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at April 30, 2012 07:12 AM (Np6Q2)

73 Out, damned sock!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 30, 2012 07:12 AM (nEUpB)

74 Like Dennis Prager always says, for most American Jews, liberalism is their religion. So, they forgive Obama's constant attacks on Israel. Despicable.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 30, 2012 07:13 AM (kFnmp)

75 "Forward! The cliff is in sight!"

Posted by: Dang at April 30, 2012 07:13 AM (Ky1+e)

#65 Nevergiveup,

Everybody has their own spot on the bell curve.

Posted by: West at April 30, 2012 07:13 AM (1Rgee)

77 My experience with my fellow "Conservative" Jews is that the label is a misnomer; that is, they tend to be VERY liberal WRT social issues (gay marriage, Obamneycare, etc). As someone else mentioned, they are libs first, Jews second (at best). Posted by: speedster1 at April 30, 2012 11:07 AM (v40Bj) There is a whole spectrum of "Conservative" congregations. Those who go to temple at least once a week tend to be more on the orthodox-conservative side and I doubt they are so pro-obama. Those on the reformed-conservative side much more pro-obama.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2012 07:14 AM (i6RpT)

78 I get about 20-35 download and a very consistent 5 upload with Cablevision Boost.

Posted by: Franklin Delano Roosevelt at April 30, 2012 11:12 AM (nEUpB)

When their DNS fails twice daily, am I getting increased speed to URL's I can't access, then?

Posted by: jwb7605 at April 30, 2012 07:14 AM (Qxe/p)

79 1. Orthodox and Conservative (Masorti) Jews do not support Obama. In other words, observant Jews do not support Obama. 2. Non practicing Jews and Reform Jews say they support Obama. 3. There are more Reform and non practicing Jews than Orthodox and Conservative Jews. 4. Reform and non practicing Jews would never say they would not vote for Obama, because they don't want their peers to accuse them of racism. 5. Lets hope they stay home, and tell their friends they voted for Obama instead of actually voting

Posted by: thunderb at April 30, 2012 07:15 AM (Dnbau)

80 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 30, 2012 11:11 AM (piMMO)

Jeebus, can't believe you guys get those kind of upload speeds on Comcast, i get around 15-20mbps download on Time Warner, but they limit their upload to 1mbps.

Posted by: booger at April 30, 2012 07:16 AM (HI6wa)

81 Everybody has their own spot on the bell curve. Posted by: West at April 30, 2012 11:13 AM (1Rgee) Isn't the bell curve for intelligence? we need another term for the handsome/ugly curve

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2012 07:16 AM (i6RpT)

82 Posted by: alexthechick at April 30, 2012 11:05 AM (VtjlW)

1. I need all of the details on how you made a pollster cry.

2. I never use absentee. I simply do not trust that my ballot will be counted. They have too much time to screw around with it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 30, 2012 07:16 AM (nEUpB)

I never had to wait for last call to git me my women<<<<

Hell yeah! Chances are any gal still conscious by 2 a.m. is gonna give a pretty accurate description to the police sketch artist, am right?

Up top!

***raises hand for high-five***

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 30, 2012 07:16 AM (8FQ6f)

84 FDR invented Cable Vision Boost to help get the word out about the British bombing Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: joe 'super genius' biden at April 30, 2012 07:16 AM (nU/dt)

85 I've said this before: American Jews, more than just about any other group in the country, are completely stuck in the liberal information bubble. A large proportion live in the Boston-Washington urban corridor, a disproportionate number are academics, and they basically get the news Obama wants them to get, and nothing more.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 30, 2012 07:16 AM (4rD2K)

86 Didn't the Fallon show broadcast from down in NC just so Obama could go on there? Shouldn't that be counted as an in kind contribution to the campaign? That's a bigger deal than the whole slowjamming crap.

Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2012 07:17 AM (7vSU0)

87 Some people who distrust Jews think they're always conspiring on behalf of Israel, that their primary loyalty is to Israel, etc. Yet here we are, going into 2012. Over 90% of Israeli Jews believe that President Obama doesn't have their best interests at heart, and over 60% of American Jews will pull the lever for another four years of him.

I think there's a contradiction there, not that any anti-Semite would notice it.

FDR sock: "So what if I let Hitler kill 6,000,000 Jews?"

This isn't fair. FDR's record on Jews in WWII isn't perfect. Hell, it isn't even good when it comes to refugees. But he saw that Hitler needed to be defeated, and he took steps to lead us into war at a time when 80% of the American people were firmly for staying the hell out. Pearl Harbor or no, we'd have been at war with Nazi Germany by 1942 anyway, what with the convoying of British ships into British home waters, with orders to shoot on sight any German warship.

Posted by: JPS at April 30, 2012 07:17 AM (LzOvS)

88 IRA has been pro-Palestine forever. I think before that they were pro-Nazi.

Posted by: long island at April 30, 2012 07:17 AM (kzp9t)

89 Has the Obama campaign created a #Bamboozled hashtag yet?

They don't seem to be very good at this whole social media thing.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 30, 2012 07:17 AM (sbV1u)

90 Do they watch the news? Obama just circumvented the Republicans to prop up the Palestinian government with more funds.

Posted by: benson at April 30, 2012 07:17 AM (k8v1W)

91 Obama has funded, negotiated with and supported organizations whose primary goal is to wipe out the state of Israel.

By the way, inherent in that is to wipe out Jews. As a race. No matter where they live. Even in a NYC apartment.

Just though I'd point that out. Since 61% curiously seem to be OK with that.

Posted by: Exile at April 30, 2012 07:17 AM (O0lVq)

I have absolutely no problem streaming movies on my laptop or over Roku's wireless connection.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 30, 2012 11:11 AM (piMMO)

One of the problems I had before was an occasional Â“bufferingÂ” pause. IÂ’m getting close to 30mps download on the server hardwired to the modem, but the wireless portion is choking. I guess itÂ’s just a matter of putting out some more cash for better equipment.

Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2012 07:18 AM (ZDsRL)

93 Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2012 11:14 AM (i6RpT)

Agreed. And the spectrum is becoming more stratified, with a bigger gap between the mush of reform/conservative and the stricter conservative and modern orthodox (knit kippah).

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 30, 2012 07:19 AM (nEUpB)

94 Do they watch the news? Obama just circumvented the Republicans to prop up the Palestinian government with more funds. Posted by: benson at April 30, 2012 11:17 AM (k8v1W) A) No, they don't watch the News and if they do, it's MSNBC and they never mentioned that fact B) If they know, they buy his rational because they are freaken idiots in need of a good beating

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2012 07:19 AM (i6RpT)

95 I never had to wait for last call to git me my women

Huh. That's the opposite of what my Drill Sergeant used to tell me.

"Gentlemen, if you ain't banging the ugly ones, you ain't banging as much as I am."

Although, I'm not so sure I needed his advice about women. Hand grenades, yes. Women, no.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 30, 2012 07:20 AM (sbV1u)

96 Local economic outlook: Things are rosy in Liberalville. Just got an email that our local grocery store, due to popular demand, is again stocking Maine Lobster.

*adds Maine Lobster to my list of things I can't afford to get at the store*

Posted by: NC Ref at April 30, 2012 07:20 AM (/izg2)

70Join the #Forward movement:

President Barack Obama's reelection campaign is out with a new
slogan today Â— "Forward."

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It should be spelled......'Fore-ward'.

Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2012 07:20 AM (cB+Hn)

98 Posted by: jwb7605 at April 30, 2012 11:14 AM (Qxe/p)

My service is pretty consistent. But I also bitched all the way to corporate when it was flaky and slow, so for all I know they gave me a limited T1 just to shut me up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 30, 2012 07:21 AM (nEUpB)

99 Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2012 11:18 AM (ZDsRL)

How old is your video card? That might be part of the problem.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 30, 2012 07:22 AM (nEUpB)

100 It should be spelled......'Fore-ward'.

Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2012 11:20 AM (cB+Hn)

HA! +1

Posted by: momma at April 30, 2012 07:23 AM (oKsWl)

101 So... should I be concerned that my left shoulder has felt tight and I've had tingling in the ring- and pinky-fingers of my left hand for about 12 hours?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 07:23 AM (8y9MW)

102 "If they know, they buy his rational because they are freaken idiots in need of a good beating"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2012 11:19 AM (i6RpT)

You sure spend a lot of time with my in-laws.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 30, 2012 07:24 AM (nEUpB)

103 ... should I be concerned that my left shoulder has felt tight and I've had tingling in the ring- and pinky-fingers of my left hand for about 12 hours?

Yes. Take two aspirin (for blood thinning effects) and call your doc's nurse advice line.

Could also be a pinched nerve...but play it safe.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 30, 2012 07:25 AM (sbV1u)

104 NO, REALLY!!! WHAT HAPPENED TO RUM? Posted by: Suddenly Only 100 Dalmatians at April 30, 2012 11:04 AM (IJUs7) She married The Rock.

Posted by: eman at April 30, 2012 07:26 AM (YrBvI)

105

How old is your video card? That might be part of the problem.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 30, 2012 11:22 AM (nEUpB)

Got no idea. I didnÂ’t know that could be a source of the problem.

Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2012 07:26 AM (ZDsRL)

106

Crap. My hash has change again.

103So... should I be concerned that my left shoulder has felt tight and I've had tingling in the ring- and pinky-fingers of my left hand for about 12 hours? This doesn't sound good, AllenG. .....Maybe a good idea to call your doctor.

Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2012 07:27 AM (cB+Hn)

107 Is this the tech support thread now? I've got a Windows 7 machine that boots up to a black screen with a cursor arrow that moves, but doesn't go any further than that.

Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2012 07:27 AM (7vSU0)

108 Forward!

Posted by: President Lemming at April 30, 2012 07:28 AM (XBdI0)

109 She married The Rock.

Posted by: eman at April 30, 2012 11:26 AM (YrBvI)

Bwahahahahaha. You win 1 internets.

Posted by: NC Ref at April 30, 2012 07:28 AM (/izg2)

110 Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2012 11:26 AM (ZDsRL)

Something has to process all of that video data, and if your video card isn't up to the task, it might stutter and freeze while it catches up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 30, 2012 07:28 AM (nEUpB)

111 News flash, many Reform Rabbis and the jews that go to listen to them are as anti-Israel as you can find.

Posted by: thunderb at April 30, 2012 07:29 AM (Dnbau)

112

1. I need all of the details on how you made a pollster cry.

A few months ago, I got some very very earnest young 20's sounding girl got me on the phone for a "poll" that was very clearly pushing the anti-amendment stance. I tried to be polite but then she mentioned something about the only reason for opposing it being bigotry and I teed off on her. I got back a snotty "you don't know what it's like to be gay" and I snapped back "Honey, I've known I was queer longer than you've been alive". There was a bit more back and forth and then I told her that she should demand a refund from whatever college she attended as clearly she'd never been taught how to think and that's when she started crying and hung up. I felt kind of bad about it. Not really bad, but a little bit.

Gah. I have had a pounding headache since yesterday. The workers just started respackling and repainting the front lobby. There's a better than even chance I'm going to hurl at my desk from the fumes. /pitywhoring

Posted by: alexthechick at April 30, 2012 07:29 AM (VtjlW)

113 Jeebus, can't believe you guys get those kind of upload speeds on Comcast, i get around 15-20mbps download on Time Warner, but they limit their upload to 1mbps.

****

On all plans? You mean you can't even pay more for better upload speed?!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 30, 2012 07:29 AM (piMMO)

114 News flash, many Reform Rabbis and the jews that go to listen to them are as anti-Israel as you can find. Posted by: thunderb

Guess it's a "reform" to desire your extermination.

Go figure.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 30, 2012 07:30 AM (sbV1u)

115 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 30, 2012 11:23 AM (8y9MW)

Yes. Take it seriously.

Unless you have been jerking it for 12 hours -- then it's just exhaustion.

But...take it seriously.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 30, 2012 07:30 AM (nEUpB)

116 5 Yeah. Vote for the muslim sympathizer. That'll work out well for you.

Posted by: Dagny

Yeah, I don't understand it. ....It makes.no.sense. ......Stockholm Syndrome?

Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2012 07:30 AM (cB+Hn)

117 There was a bit more back and forth and then I told her that she should demand a refund from whatever college she attended as clearly she'd never been taught how to think ... Posted by: alexthechick

Alex...you're my hero.

Seriously.

I just hang up on them...but that's epic.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 30, 2012 07:32 AM (sbV1u)

118 Posted by: alexthechick at April 30, 2012 11:29 AM (VtjlW)

Are you sure you're queer? Because I think I'm in love!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 30, 2012 07:33 AM (nEUpB)

119 Yeah. Vote for the muslim sympathizer. That'll work out well for you.

***

Works for London: http://bit.ly/IwqKNu

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 30, 2012 07:34 AM (piMMO)

120 Note Obama went to the Reform movement to speak, not Orthodox or Conservative. My real problem is with AIPAK (American-Israel Political Action Committee), a lobbying group. They claim to lobby for Israel, and yet they refuse to rate lawmakers based on their pro-Israel voting records (they are afraid of back lash like there isn't one already). They even let a puke and world class ignoramous and anti-semite like Sheila Jackson Lee speak at their Houston event.

Posted by: thunderb at April 30, 2012 07:34 AM (Dnbau)

121

.....she should demand a refund from whatever college she attended
as clearly she'd never been taught how to think ...

That's the problem in our colleges these days......thinking is discouraged. ....Liberal professors even punish the kids who try to think outside of what they are pushing.

Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2012 07:35 AM (cB+Hn)

122 Leading candidate in Egypt presidential race calls Israel peace accord 'dead and buried' Amr Moussa tells a mass rally in south Egypt that the Camp David Accords with Israel should be 'consigned to the shelves of history.' obama's doing and handy work.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2012 07:35 AM (i6RpT)

123 Isn't the bell curve for intelligence? we need another term for the handsome/ugly curve.

The paper bag curve?

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 30, 2012 07:35 AM (IlZPo)

124 Maybe if AIPAK created a report on the voting records of democratic lawmakers with regard to Israel it would open some secular Jewish eyes.

Posted by: thunderb at April 30, 2012 07:36 AM (Dnbau)

125

109 Is this the tech support thread now?

Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2012 11:27 AM (7vSU0)

I initially was going to blame my download speed problem on the Jews, but now IÂ’ve got a few other items to check.

Still, I know itÂ’s got something to do with Jews.

Posted by: jwest at April 30, 2012 07:44 AM (ZDsRL)

126 If Obama "only" gets 61% of the Jewish vote in Florida then he's in real trouble in that state.

He'll struggle to get 61% here in FL. I have quite a few Jewish friends. They're openly criticizing and abandoning him in droves. I also have some retired union rank and file friends who supported him in 08'. To a man, they're all openly critical and saying they'd vote for anyone but Obama.

Would these people say any of this to a pollster? Absolutely not, they'd all lie and say they supported him because of fear of retaliation. Nobody trusts that the pollsters keep responses anonymous, and with Obama's proclivity towards attacking private citizens, the prudent thing to do is give the "correct" response.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 30, 2012 07:46 AM (dtD3y)

127 Jews voting Dem.... I have never understood why.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at April 30, 2012 07:53 AM (C2//T)

128 #80 thunderb

"Conservative (Masorti) Jews do not support Obama. In other words, observant Jews do not support Obama."

Maybe (although we go pretty regularly, and ,ost of the other regulars are major libs).

But there's this (from the movement's website):

"the United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism endorses the "Interfaith Statement in Support of Comprehensive Immigration Reform"

[WRT energy] "Ensure equitable sharing of the benefits of those resources to advance the security, economic and personal well-being of all residents of North America"

[WRT "Reproductive Choice"] "administrative agency actions or any other governmental actions that will or reasonable grounds to believe exist that it might impact a women's right to fulfill any halachic requirements in regard to abortion." (fancy weay of saying "pro-abortion")

Admittedly, the USCJ us an "umbrella" org, not a Papacy, so these aren't binding on individuals. But they represent the overall attitudes of its membership.

Posted by: speedster1 at April 30, 2012 07:54 AM (v40Bj)

129 On all plans? You mean you can't even pay more for better upload speed?!

You can get 5mbps on their top plan, but if i remember right it's about 3x the cost.

Posted by: booger at April 30, 2012 07:56 AM (HI6wa)

130 GAAAH! I want my spaces back!

Posted by: speedster1 at April 30, 2012 07:57 AM (v40Bj)

131 This is greatnews. Secular jewish libs love abortionmore than Israel and Romney willnever get theirsupport. However if he getsthe orthodox, Zionist and traditional and Russian votes, it willmake zeroes fundraising in the jewish community difficult. Highprofile libs will stay in thebackground if enough high profile unassimmilated Jews show enthusiastic support forRomney.

Posted by: avi at April 30, 2012 07:59 AM (Gx3Fe)

132 Jews voting Dem.... I have never understood why.

Those who do are predominantly JINO's. They're "Jews" when they find it advantageous to use that label.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 30, 2012 07:59 AM (dtD3y)

133 Bibi could alsoswing 5% and $$$ to romney

Posted by: avi at April 30, 2012 08:01 AM (Gx3Fe)

134
16 point drop in support from 2008...

2% of the population, concentrated in Blue states The O will inevitably take anyway.

Fund-raising and maybe Florida aside, no real help there.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 30, 2012 08:03 AM (kdS6q)

135 if enough high profile unassimmilated Jews show enthusiastic support for Romney

If they're smart, they'll say nothing or offer tepid non-cash lip service support for Obama when in public. This one is still up in the air, and it would be unwise to put yourself in a position to be retaliated against should Obama win. Just voting against Obama in the privacy of the voting booth is enough.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 30, 2012 08:03 AM (dtD3y)

136 The "Jewish vote" = 2%

Posted by: OxyCon at April 30, 2012 08:12 AM (ur8o6)

137 Speedster1, fine. Did you read the resolution on the treatment of Israel by the UN? You know, condemning it an urging members to speak to their congressmen about it? That is a distinct difference from Reform and secular jews. (I like the term JINO by the way)

Posted by: thunderb at April 30, 2012 08:14 AM (Dnbau)

138 2% is a big deal when gerrymandering is considered. Many "dem win" districts were designed with only a few percent actual advantage so the reliable Dem votes could be spread around to boost more districts.

The thing about gerrymandered districts is they were designed for normal times when the voting base wasn't irritated. When a few percent in a gerrymandered district flip, the whole deal goes pear shaped.

Obama, even with a slim "electoral" win, could wind up causing significant down ticket carnage for Dems.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 30, 2012 08:19 AM (dtD3y)

139 Local State House candidate has "Forward Together!" on all her signs. Never heard of her, but the first time I saw one of her signs I knew she was never getting my vote.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 30, 2012 08:21 AM (hiMsy)

140 Here in Palm Beach, most of the local Dems in the 2010 elections avoided putting their party affiliation on their roadside campaign signs. They were running away from Obama then, I wonder what it'll be like this time...

Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 30, 2012 08:32 AM (dtD3y)

141 I will never understand how any Jew could vote for this anti-Israel administration. Unreal.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky aka Lolo Ate My Poodle at April 30, 2012 08:55 AM (baL2B)

142 Why do Jews knowingly vote for leftists? Is it because they're all leftists themselves, or because the left is more secular and accepting of non-christians, unlike the right which is very strongly associated with Christianity?

I'm not religious, so I don't really pay much attention to what religion someone is except in cases where religious affiliation predicts anti-social behavior or the triumph of dogma over reality.

To me there isn't a whole lot of difference between Judaism and Christianity. The latter is derived from the former and the moral lessons of each are more or less the same. So I always found it strange that the voting patterns of Jews would differ so starkly from that of Christians until I realized that the two groups didn't get along. (I can be kind of slow on the uptake sometimes.) Jews seem to spend a lot of thought and effort trying not to be Christians, in defending themselves intellectually and culturally from being dissolved in the sea of the Christian culture of America.

Posted by: Lee Reynolds at April 30, 2012 09:51 AM (rJMw2)

143 The hadith was wrong; the end will not come until the Jews hide behind trees, and 61% of the Jews will point and say, o Muslim, there is a Zionist behind that tree! Makes me want to tear my hair out, it does

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 30, 2012 09:54 AM (9PqCy)

144 Kampeas is an Obama shill; so is the AJC which conducted the poll. Reagan received 38% of the Jewish vote, the most for a Republican in modern times, and Romney will surpass that number.

I would like to see a poll of Jews who believe in the Torah and observe the Sabbath- that would be 90% for Romney.

Many of those Obama supporters polled as Jews are non-practicing ones, or perhaps not even Jewish according to the Torah

Posted by: bigben at April 30, 2012 09:58 AM (x759p)

145 Lee Reynolds, 1:51:

"or because the left is more secular and accepting of non-christians, unlike the right which is very strongly associated with Christianity? ... I always found it strange that the voting patterns of Jews would differ so starkly from that of Christians until I realized that the two groups didn't get along"

This post puzzles me, because Christian conservatives in America - both according to polls and in my personal experience - tend toward philo-Semitism: deeply opposed both to anti-Semitism and to any effort to use Christianity to justify it. What little anti-Semitism I have encountered has been "racial" or cultural, not theological, in origin.

I would agree though that many American Jews "spend a lot of thought and effort ... defending themselves intellectually and culturally from being dissolved in the sea of the Christian culture of America."

Posted by: JPS at April 30, 2012 10:25 AM (LzOvS)

146 Obama approval rating in Russian speaking emigrant (mostly Jewsih) community is 19%. I guess, Jews from former USSR did not participated in this polling

Posted by: redmonkey at April 30, 2012 10:26 AM (2R6mJ)

147 I think that prior to WW II, American jews, who had largely immigrated from eastern Europe and Russia, were leftist because of the culture they had just left. I think after WW II, American Jews were Democratic because of the war and the belief that FDR and the dems fought Hitler and won. Jews after WW II also became less observant. WW II brought about a crisis in surviving Jewry, how could God have allowed the holocaust. Large numbers of Jews became increasingly secular. The progeny of those Jews have largely voted democratic reflexively ever since. The more secular they become, the more learning institutions replaced religious ones, reinforcing progressive voting patterns. In short, I don't think Jewish voting patterns are a reaction to Christian voting at all.

Posted by: thunderb at April 30, 2012 10:40 AM (Dnbau)

148

Some Jewish libs just need a good relentless asskicking for selling out their Israeli brethren.

I volunteer my size 12 shoe.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 30, 2012 10:40 AM (8kWKd)

149 BTW, Jon Lovitz is a secular Jew. He seems to be waking up, he seems to get it.

Posted by: thunderb at April 30, 2012 11:10 AM (Dnbau)

150 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

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