1 Happy Memorial Day weekend Ace!

2 Holy sh!t. Evil walks among us...

3 I just have to brag on my wife.  After a year of Weight Watchers, she can finally fit into the earrings she wore in high school!

4 I guess we'll never, ever know who did this...[sigh]

5 in spite of all the bullshit.

6 Maybe they'll find room in the balanced report to mention all those "death threats" the climate gang in Australia received: http://scoamf.us/up

7 There is a third category: report bad things without mentioning that its a leftist doing them.

8 Incidentally, I'm okay, nothing to report.

That was code, wasn't it?

Ace is in trouble!  Time to roll!

9 So much for the italics sticking.

10 You STAY OK Ace.  I'm not comfortable lurking elsewhere.

11

Why didn't WE think of this!

*swat foreheads*

12 there is also, "a lefty, pushed to the brink by those conservatives, has understandably snapped and done some terrible things. How can we stop those conservatives from making all these people go bat shit insane?"

13 The minute it happens to one of theirs it'll be reported on a continuous ten minute loop.

14 Yep, we make them crazy. 

What delicate little hothouse flowers they are.

15 Don't make me angry.  You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.  Because I always make well-reasoned arguments backed up by documented facts.

16

Let see... falsly calling 911 is a crime...

 

If its being done to harrass... its a crime...

 

If its being done across State Lines... its a federal Crime...

 

Sooo... I know Batman had the Bat Signal... what is it for Eric Holder? A black siloute of Lady Justice, on a Black Background... at night?

17 I am sorry but there needs to be some wire tapping going on on this case. Legal or illegal, this has got to end.

18 When is Homeland Security going to get involved? This is terrorism straight up.

19 Do gay midgets come out of the cabinet?

20 It's sad and pathetic...
If things can't be corrected through the proper steps you laid out in previous threads, then we can only hope that one day the "thugs" will have the tables turned.
Lives are at stake!!!

21 A good use of all that wasted Stimulus money would have been to give local police departments the money they need to upgrade their 911 systems to prevent such attacks.  This vulnerability has been known since 2007 when a Washington state teen 'swatted' someone in California.

This does need more exposure, the malice of such people is sickening.  This is domestic terrorism, one either caves in and goes silent or risk being accidentally killed by a SWAT unit responding to a false call.

22 Um, I, I, ah, back sorry, um, I think it's interesting because I think it is very difficult to talk about SWAT teams without invoking valor, without invoking the words "heroes." Um, and, ah, ah, why do I feel so comfortable about the word "hero"? I feel comfortable, ah, uncomfortable, about the word because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more SWATting.

23 I imagine CNN will have to talk about this now, otherwise what is to stop Erick Erickson from bringing this up on live TV without their permission?

Better let him talk about it all he wants in a controlled environment/segment.

24 If only there was a word for a male chicken that was also the word for penis, I would be able to finish this joke with a super punchline.

25 Fuck these liberal fucking fucks.

26 He is lucky that's all that happened...I work with law enforcement and just because he told them something might happen, they don't always get the message.

27

Walked into work yesterday and remarked tat the barbecue smell outside was making me hungry.  Was informed that there was a crematorium somewhere upwind and today was burning day.

 

Good times...

28
11 Why didn't WE think of this!
*swat foreheads*
Posted by: Bill Ayers & Bernadine Dohrn at May 27, 2012 11:15 PM (gRt8w)


Probably because back in your day when you thugs were trying to kill innocent people, SWAT teams and '911' dispatch systems hadn't been invented.

29 Is there any way that Barbra Streisand can be put into jail for this? Pleeeeease.

30 Is anyone in the media going to cover this? **** Maybe if someone can convince Ann Coulter she can make a dime off it, she would be willing to mention it.

31 Maybe if someone can convince Ann Coulter she can make a dime off it, she would be willing to mention it. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 27, 2012 11:29 PM (piMMO) Hi NDH. Are you a little cynical about Ms. Coulter's ultimate motivations?

32 This is terrorism, straight up. Pay attention Janeane Garofolo.
 
Hopefully ace has notified his local authorities that he too may be subjected to this crime.

33 Hi NDH. Are you a little cynical about Ms. Coulter's ultimate motivations? **** Whatever gave you that idea? :O

34 If as a child, that had happened to my mom or dad, I would have grown up even more a nervous nellie than I did.
Some one is going to get physically hurt and it just might be an innocent child.

For some of us, this is having the desired affect.
Fear of being conservative in public.

35 testing

36 "Incidentally, I'm okay, nothing to report." EXACTLY what a hostage with a gun held to his head by a mad Speedway bomber would say.

37 Mind-blowing.

38 16 Let see... falsly calling 911 is a crime...

If its being done to harrass... its a crime...

If its being done across State Lines... its a federal Crime...

Sooo... I know Batman had the Bat Signal... what is it for Eric Holder? A black siloute of Lady Justice, on a Black Background... at night?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 27, 2012 11:18 PM (lZBBB)

It's on the phone, it is a Federal crime. Our whole communications system is under Federal regulation, so, it is Federal Pound In The Ass Prison.

The states can have some regulations, but even if the call was spoofed by Eriscons next door neighbor, the Feds should get involved.

39 Whatever gave you that idea? :O Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 27, 2012 11:32 PM (piMMO) Oh, I don't know... I was listening to Coulter on Hannity the other day. He was talking about just turning 50 and he said something to her like "I feel like in another life you were my older sister who was constantly giving me a hard time). You could hear the daggers over the radio. hysterical.

40 This vulnerability has been known since 2007 when a Washington state teen 'swatted' someone in California.

All you need is a MagicJack to make it look like a call is coming from any area code you desire. 

41

I imagine CNN will have to talk about this now, otherwise what is to stop Erick Erickson from bringing this up on live TV without their permission?

 

That depends on how muc Erick loves the CNN limelight I suppose.  If he just went off topic they'd likely just not ask him back (even if he is reporting legitimate news.)  That's how media rolls, and this is from someone who generally dosen't revert to a "biased media is biased" state.  (MSNBC, clearly leftist, CNN: Struggling for relevance in a new partisian media age, IMHO)

Incidentally, I'm okay, nothing to report.

I'm torn between making a "well you're just not important I guess" or a "You were never okay to begin with, we all knew that" joke.  I'll settle for neither and go "Stomp the ONT? Is that a first?"

42 @27 - They consistently forget that the country they're trying to create is one that an American would happily rather die than live in.  They have to kill lots of people.  It's the only way to get millions of us to stop laughing at them. 

43 The Cold Civil War continues.

44 If anyone gets killed, someone on our side is going to go with the following Emergency Action Message: Day Word: Cottonmouth Action Word: Jericho Command Word: Trinity Execute SIOP Option Two One Zebra, "The Grand Tour." And I will officially be in DILLIGAFF mode when it comes to a jury.

45 They have to kill lots of people.

There's rumors of a UC back in the day hearing Ayers saying he'd be will to kill about 30M people to force his agenda on the USA.

46 Far as I am concerned those in the leftist establishment who choose to cover this up are complicit.

47 Incidentally, I'm okay, nothing to report.

I don't regard that as incidental.

Now, go have a good weekend.

48 Crap  ike this is only going to continue. The only effective way to deal with terrorists is to take the battle to them.

Declaring a national "Everybody blog about..." day is useless. Screaming for law enforcement, or the state's A.G. office, or congress, to do something about this is also useless; they haven't done a damn thing yet, so what makes you think that more screaming is going to change anything?

You need to take the fight to the terrorists.

I think that Erickson, and Patterico, and Aaron Worthing, and whoever else has been victimized by these creeps need to start filing lawsuits against them, just like they do. Tie THEM up in court, force THEM into discovery, make THEM spend THEIR money on legal fees defending themselves, drown THEM in a blizzard of lawsuits.

Looking for injunctive relief is useless; it simply won't happen.

You need to take the fight to the terrorists. You need to inflict (legal) pain on them. As long as the terrorists aren't hurting, they're not going to stop doing what they do.

That is my opinion

49

meh...whatever.

50 That is my opinion

Posted by: OregonMuse at May 27, 2012 11:41 PM (fPBIw)

 

 

 

 Costs a LOT of money.

51 where's that worthless idiot coward Robert Ford to claim this is just a hoax and isn't happening like he has for two days straight on the Glenn beck thread

52

@OregonMuse,

No offense, but I just don't think that will work.  Consider that this guy is willing to piss away his time because he finds it valuable to do so (i.e. he has no life and a charity to siphon income so he doesn't have to work.)  As such you can't out crazy him because the rest of us have to work (e.g. our time is actually valuable.)

One of these nuts has kept Patterico and Worthing (two lawyers mind you) busy on his own.  If another crazy produces himself it might overwhelm even the best of us.

No, you can't fix a broken system by leverging the broken system against those who would abuse it or stated differently: Moral people can't go up against immoral people in a broken system because we moral people have limits.  (Wasn't there a Batman Begins quote about this?)  You need to fix the system or you're just treading water.

53 You know that you are over the target when you're getting flack.  All you wonderful bloggers are bouncing around in your bombers, getting flack.   In the immortal Star Wars vernacular:  Stay on target.  Stay on TARGET! 

54 DOG ON A CAR ROOF! AAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH!!!!

55 I wonder if there are lower profile people they also pulled this on today.

56 I'll wait to hear more on this one, not enough to compare it to the Patterico attempted murder case so far. As to the "both sides do it." COMPLETE BULLSHIT, almost all political violence, terrorism and rhetorical incitement in America comes from the Left.

57 Costs a LOT of money

You bet it will, there's no getting around it. But ultimately, it's a price that someone or some group is going to have to pay, otherwise we might just as well fold up our tents and cede the political playing field to the left.

I believe this is the beginning of a new phase of the left v. right war. The left has just upped the stakes. Now it's not just "shut up", it's "shut up or we will hurt you."

Patterico and AW and ace and other conservative bloggers are the first targets of this new strategy from the left. I believe a strong, active response is mandatory.

58
No, you can't fix a broken system by leverging the broken system against those who would abuse it or stated differently: Moral people can't go up against immoral people in a broken system because we moral people have limits. (Wasn't there a Batman Begins quote about this?) You need to fix the system or you're just treading water.


What do you suggest we do until the system gets fixed?

59

My Personal Legal Theory:

 

SWATting is equivalent to pointing a loaded gun at another person.

 

Effectively, the caller is causing armed men (the police, who, in this sort of case, arrive with guns locked and loaded and are authorized to shoot) to forceably enter, i.e., assault, with one or more guns, another person's house with the intent of seizing that person (and apparently everyone else at that location).

 

If you ge SWATted, run this legal theory past your personal lawyer ... see if he will lean on the DA to get serious action aginst the caller.

60 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

61 With the latest Erick Erickson SWATting, domestic terrorism has now come to my town.  Fantastic!

62

where's that worthless idiot coward Robert Ford to claim this is just a hoax and isn't happening like he has for two days straight on the Glenn beck thread

 

Damnit, now I have the old folk song "Jesse James" in my head!

Well it was Robert Ford, that dirty little coward, I wonder how he feels, For he ate of Jesse's bread and he slept in Jesse's bed, And he laid poor Jesse in his grave.

63 And you're right about the Batman Begins reference, we are moral people with limits; we cannot, for example, SWAT back. That is completely wrong, and we have to live with the fact that they can do it, but we can't.

64

65 Posted by: OregonMuse at May 27, 2012 11:53 PM (fPBIw)

 

What do you suggest we do until the system gets fixed?

 

Right now, I like the idea of forcing the DA to charge the SWATter with Attempted Murder.

65 As usual, The Emperor has his own unique take on this mess.
http://tinyurl.com/7rgwbbe

66 Kimberlin apparently is getting donations from the General Mills heiress who is a relative of his.

The people who support vermin like Kimberlin DO NOT expect blowback to fall on them or impact their financial situation in any way.

Maybe that needs to change?

67
It's gonna be one hell of a summer. Things are boiling...

68 Right now, I like the idea of forcing the DA to charge the SWATter with Attempted Murder.

Fine; but who is the SWATer who made the call to Erickson? Do we even know who he is?

And even if we know who he is, how would we "force" the DA to act, especially if he didn't want to?

69 The blaze has it up too.  I would also like to see a recent pix of this terrorist/soros wannabe.

70

Now that I think about it, the only time anything like this gets coverage is when it happens to a lib.

Cop twists a lib arm, they interrupt the broadcast to announce it. Lib gets tazed, it's shown on TV for a month. Someone provokes a pepper spraying, the chief has to resign..... and on and on....

71 It's gonna be one hell of a summer. Things are boiling..

I agree.

72 Brett is a typical Trust Fund Terrorist.

73 Burn evil from your midst.

74 The people who support vermin like Kimberlin DO NOT expect blowback to fall on them or impact their financial situation in any way.

Damit. I'm so tired of being associated with these people.

75 we have to live with the fact that they can do it, but we can't.

Righteous battles against evil are frequently fought using less than noble means.  The difference is that evil acts as it does by its nature and can't turn it off, because its who they are.  The righteous warrior recognizes the less than noble means are simply a temporary necessity and can turn them off when the battle is over, because that's NOT who they are.

A troubled conscience is often part of war.

76

What do you suggest we do until the system gets fixed?

Defend, counter when applicable, and focus our energy on putting the people in power to change the system.

Kimberlin has already found the loophole for which to drive a truck through.  He has no law license to lose, which gives him incredible leverage against Worthing and Patterico whose income is mostly dependent on said license (it is after all their marketable skill.)  Frankly he's playing Mutually Assured Destruction, knowing we're not stupid enough to cut off our noses to spite our face.  Should we devolve to said level of stupid?

No, of course not.  Does this mean we have to merely shut up and take it?  Also no.  Frankly we could tie him up in court until he dies of old age (which is really the only option I see if we opt not to change the system) but it really just puts us back at square 1.  Alternatively we can focus our efforts on closing said truck sized loophole (among others) and end it for a much longer period of time.

77 55 where's that worthless idiot coward Robert Ford to claim this is just a hoax and isn't happening like he has for two days straight on the Glenn beck thread Posted by buzzion

Does he also use the handle "Dr._Tesla"? if so, he's gumming up the works over at RSM's, claiming that Erick Erickson "SWATted" himself!

Please, I really hate this guy, now. Tell me it's the same jerk?

78

Fine; but who is the SWATer who made the call to Erickson? Do we even know who he is?

 

I think that we do not know for certain who the SWATter is, but with enough paper (warrants, subpoenas, etc.) we can at least narrow down the list of possibles. We might even be able to narrow it down to 1. We should at least try; these calls and actions are public, not provate.

 

And even if we know who he is, how would we "force" the DA to act, especially if he didn't want to?

 

Publicize this case, and those like it. Never let up. Start filing motions to discover all relevant imformation; after all, someone is sending the police, with guns drawn, to apprehend ... you ... I view this as Attempted Murder, the flip side of Death-by-Cop (is it only me?). Start filing motions to force the DA to act, if necessary; DAs have respsonibilities to the public too.

79 Damnit, now I have the old folk song "Jesse James" in my head!
Well it was Robert Ford, that dirty little coward, I wonder how he feels, For he ate of Jesse's bread and he slept in Jesse's bed, And he laid poor Jesse in his grave. Posted by: tsrblke

I thought it was just me!

80 85 The other day, Ace was talking about writing congress critters, etc. I think a good place to start might be the authorities in the effected jurisdictions and locally too, to make sure the trigger pullers and media in your area are aware of "SWATing."

81 Publicize this case, and those like it. Never let up. Start filing motions to discover all relevant imformation; after all, someone is sending the police, with guns drawn, toapprehend ... you... I view this as Attempted Murder, the flip side of Death-by-Cop (is it only me?). Start filing motions to force the DA to act, if necessary; DAs have respsonibilities to the public too.

Posted by: Arbalest at May 28, 2012 12:07 AM (JJB0n)

Meh.  Nifong put four totally innocent boys at risk of decades in jail, each - intentionally - and suffered nothing serious for it.  Crystal Magnum had to commit another crime to be held responsible for anything.

There's a reason that "bearing false witness" is one of the 5 prohibitions in the Ten Commandments.  But we have tossed that sage advice aside in order to be "compassionate to the evil".

82 this is concerning.

I'm sure that the police depts will soon catch wind of this and respond accordingly. Hopefully, they'll SWAT the perpetrators and "ooops".....got whatcha deserved punk!

83
//You need to take the fight to the terrorists.

I think that Erickson, and Patterico, and Aaron Worthing, and whoever else has been victimized by these creeps need to start filing lawsuits against them, just like they do. Tie THEM up in court, force THEM into discovery, make THEM spend THEIR money on legal fees defending themselves, drown THEM in a blizzard of lawsuits.

Looking for injunctive relief is useless; it simply won't happen.

You need to take the fight to the terrorists. You need to inflict (legal) pain on them. As long as the terrorists aren't hurting, they're not going to stop doing what they do.

That is my opinion//

^This.

Anyway, since having SWAT teams called on innocent people is, you know, illegal, bringing legal action against Kimberlin shouldn't be that difficult.

84 >>> Is anyone in the media going to cover this, or are they all going to continue giving the leftwing the Green Light for terrorizing people? Are women going to keep putting their self-interests ahead of being honest? Was that a rhetorical question?

85 gotta figure out who is calling first, paid phone, pre-paid cell phone. Cell phones can be tracked to towers.

86

Nifong put four totally innocent boys at risk of decades in jail, each -intentionally - and suffered nothing serious for it.

 

It is also true that, initially, the public information of the case pointed to "guilty". It took some scary time and effort to explode the lies, but it happened.

 

Nifong lost his job, he was dis-barred. I'd like to have seen him do 10 years in addition, but I was not one of the victims. What does Nifong do for a living now?

 

This case is different. Even the police know they are being played. A DA who continues ignoring this is risking his career ... even if he's being extremely well paid ... and if he's being paid, he will likely do time.

87

My dad (banker) used to say the Capture and convict rate for Bank Robberies was upwards of 95%.  In part, he claimed, because they just wanted to make sure very few people got it in their mind to rob a bank.   It helps that they're so rare to begin with, then resources get poored into solving them.  Sometimes resources far in excess of the robbery itself (actually, on certain holidays when I worked at a fast food joint we'd have more money in our safe than the average bank robber got away with.).

Perhaps SWAT-ing should be viewed the same way.  Although rare already we don't want people getting it in their mind that this is something you can do and get away with.  So resources get poured in to ensure a high capature/convict rate.

88

Fine; but who is the SWATer who made the call to Erickson? Do we even know who he is?

---------

I'll bet it was Streisand.

89 Defend, counter when applicable, and focus our energy on putting the people in power to change the system.

I can't agree. I think this is inadequate. You don't win against terrorists by playing defense. In fact, I would argue that what you describe is pretty much how Kimberlin has been dealt with so far, and it hasn't worked out too well. Advocating for more of the same isn't going to work.

90 I'll bet it was Streisand.

Posted by: Jimmah at May 28, 2012 12:21 AM (cWkOB)

Now she can sue me and her contributions to this guy will get coverage when the come to interview me on MSNBC.

91 Anyway, since having SWAT teams called on innocent people is, you know, illegal, bringing legal action against Kimberlin shouldn't be that difficult.

Not if you don't know and can't prove it's him.

92 So, when does shit get real?

I think shit got real. Maybe it's just me. I'm funny that way.

93 bringing legal action against Kimberlin shouldn't be that difficult.

Obviously he's using untracable "burner" phones. 

IMO, one of the most productive routes of attack in terms of generating provable evidence, is insertion of a long term mole into his organization.  It would take probably 5 years or so between initial contact and burning him, and that person would need to spend a couple of years before making initial contact creating an impenetrable legend and track record.

Yea, its a very long term lifestyle change with a lot of sacrifice...and you'd have to be willing to do some pretty unpleasant things to establish bonafides.

94 It is also true that, initially, the public information of the case pointed to "guilty". It took some scary time and effort to explode the lies, but it happened.

That's not true.  It was clear very early on that the case was bogus.  That was even without the evidence (or lack thereof) that Nifong's office witheld.

Nifong lost his job, he was dis-barred. I'd like to have seen him do 10 years in addition, but I was notone of thevictims. What does Nifong do for a living now?

The punishment must be commensurate with the crime.  Nifong should have had to serve the sum total of years that he exposed the boys to.  That is the only fair response.

This case is different. Even the police know they are being played.A DA who continues ignoring this is risking his career ... even if he's being extremely well paid ... and if he's being paid, he will likely do time.

Posted by: Arbalest at May 28, 2012 12:19 AM (JJB0n)

I don't consider losing a career to be commensurate with the risk he exposes others to.  Not even close.  But, that's me.

95

Anyway, since having SWAT teams called on innocent people is, you know, illegal, bringing legal action against Kimberlin shouldn't be that difficult.

----

I wouldn't think it would be. I worked with a guy that was getting a divorce. His soon to be ex wifes car was keyed and he was prosecuted on the evidence that they had an argument.

96 archive.org image.


http://i47.tinypic.com/t7ecdw.jpg

97

I can't agree. I think this is inadequate. You don't win against terrorists by playing defense. In fact, I would argue that what you describe is pretty much how Kimberlin has been dealt with so far, and it hasn't worked out too well. Advocating for more of the same isn't going to work.

I'd argue by and large until now he's really just been to low on the radar of crazy to actually mount an offense against him.  There's lots of crazy out there. Sometimes, perhaps stupidly, we ignore things we shouldn't.  He adaquately diffused his crazy such that we didn't think and mobilize against him.  That much has changed.  Also, one of the double edged swords of the system is that it takes time to catch up with an effectively novel abuse of it.

Additionally I'm not arguing we merely defend, just that we don't engage in Lawfare per se.  I'm arguing we change the rules of the game.  Think of it in more meta terms.  Take away his parcheesi board and he can long longer beat you in parcheesi.

98 Are women going to keep putting their self-interests ahead of being honest?

Was that a rhetorical question?

Posted by: Random at May 28, 2012 12:16 AM (ieFeF)

You're still not getting any?

Was that a rhetorical question?

99 Don't confuse sociopathic personalities with insanity.  These people know exactly what they're doing.

100 There was a Law and Order episode where a computer nut was stalking someone and there was info that the DA could not legally get. So... the DA hired a computer company, and they found the info that the DA could not legally get.

I guess what I'm saying is that maybe there are ways around things here.Not necessarily direct attacks, but sort of third party attacks.

Not sure what that means or how that would be achieved, but still... it's a half baked thought.

101 Posted by: 13times


What a little TURD.

102 //Not if you don't know and can't prove it's him.//

Oh. My bad.

I guess we should all stop talking about how he's doing it since we can't prove he's doing it then.

You don't need to be able to prove it's him. He just needs to be indicted. That requires no proof. Nobody can prove that George Zimmerman committed murder. In fact, we can pretty much, at this point, prove he didn't. But he's been indicted and he'll probably go to jail. Anyway, we're talking about a guy who routinely files phony-baloney lawsuits. What, someone couldn't file a suit against him? C'mon. Proof's beside the point.

103

It's never a bad idea to doubt Erick Erickson on his claims.  Remember how how he strung people along with the claim he had some kidn of scoop that proved Nikki Haley's accuser was lying and then turns out he didn't have anything and it was just some kind of political theatre?    I wouldn't doubt if he would lie about this in an effort to push the original story up into the national media. 

 

I'm not saying he's lying, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did, based on the limelight seeking stunts he has done in the past.

104 Ace, honey, your being ok is anything but incidental.  Thanks for telling us, but I'm not stopping my prayers for you.  You are doing a hugely important work, but even more, you are loved (even if it is by us morons and moronettes).  May the Lord keep you safe.

I swear, every time I think of this SWATting thing, I feel sick.  Thank the Lord the Ericksons are ok.

105 Posted the same image on tinypic last nite, and oddly, it was gone today. uploaded it again just now.

106

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 12:35 AM (4BzOb)

Dunno much about EE, don't read Red State.  BUT, I will say this.  That'd be a pretty stupid gambit.  The situation with Nikki Haley you describe is classic political theatre, a bluff that (I guess) worked for a while.  Because no one can see your supposed cards.

If this is a bluff, it's a damned easy bluff to check.  Reporters could just call the Sheriff's office.  Bluff called.  So if he does elevate it to the national MSM level (arguably his goal) it's going to get vetted, because the left will want to prove it wrong (and he knows that, or he's stupid.  I'd like to think the former.)

107 Guys Kimberlin always make sure they have virtually zero traceable personal assets.  You could sue him, he could not respond at all, you'd get a summary judgment, and there's literally nothing there for you to seize because its all owned by someone else.

108

Never ever trust a local radio talk show host.  Trust but verify.  

 

I want to hear from that police station in Macon about this, and I don't want it to come from one of his two cop friends.  

109

trsbike,

he's on record as saying he is best friends with the two cops assigned to the case.  Macon is a small town.    I wouldn't but my theory past Erickson.  I have nothing against him but I wouldn't get too far out on it until we know more. 

110 I'm not saying he's lying, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 12:35 AM (4BzOb)


I'm not saying you're a pathetic and somewhat tragic waste of potentially productive human potential, but I wouldn't be surprised if you are.

111 This is domestic terrorism. No two ways about it.

112

Guys, Erickson doesn't mind me saying this stuff.  Controversy is good for talk radio.   I don't claim I can prove anything but he lied about the Nikki Haley thing and I think it's legit not to automatically believe anything he says.

113 "...it will be a "balanced" piece including lots of supposed harassments of liberals." Worse, they will include our 'harassment' of Meghan McCain as some sort of balance, showing that conservatives have no room to complain, since we 'turned on our own.'

114

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 12:43 AM (4BzOb)

Even so I'm saying your theory barely holds water if I give it an incredibly wide berth.  If his goal is to get it to the national media level, even if CNN decides to run with it on his word, MSNBC won't let that stand without some sort of rebuttle and it's easy enough to check (for a media organization at least.) I'd imagine any news organization looking to bust the story (and there will be at least one I'm sure.) will also want the phone call recordings and any other records they can get their hands on.  If Macon can't produce that Erikson would look foolish.

So it's one of 3 options.  Either a) Erikson (familar with the media) is completely unaware of what I (an amateur) just said.  b) A vast conspiracy between Erikson and his friend including manipulated phone calls and documents or c) He's being level.

Occam says c.

115 This whole deal needs a very bright light shined on it.  Drudge, Rush, they need to put it out there, so that every American has the opportunity to know about it. 

Because, this time around, nobody who votes for Team Obama should not be allowed the excuse that the truth was too hard to find.

116

trs, you didn't think it was a tad bit "coincidental" that he warns the cops last week that soembody may try to Swat  him and then of course that happens?   It just looks like this guy thinks he is a legend in his own mind.  

You guys are going to have to respect me if I turn out to be right about this and you guys all saying i'm an idiot, etc..  You don't want to have to do that, so you shoudl join me in being skeptical. 

117 Ace said Rush was a nobody, just some dude with a big audience, so why all this calling for Rush to talk about the swatting thing,  Just a dude with a big audience.  Bloggers got this story covered, all I've seen them talking about for a week.   

118 Ace, you and the other bloggers actually are speaking truth to power. Stay safe.

119 If the Media doesn't report on this properly, with a drum beat of moral indignation. Then they are at the end. They have devolved into a Stalinist entity. I admit to being clueless what to do about it.

120

That's not true. It was clear very early on that the case was bogus. That was even without the evidence (or lack thereof) that Nifong's office witheld.

 

Based on what I heard for the first week or so, things looked bad for the Duke Men's Lacrosse team. It took a while, and a lot of effort, for things to change. Yes, there's media bias, but in this case, who knew? Now we know ...

I don't consider losing a career to be commensurate with the risk he exposes others to. Not even close. But, that's me.

 

and

 

The punishment must be commensurate with the crime. Nifong should have had to serve the sum total of years that he exposed the boys to. That is the only fair response.

 

Agreed, but at the time Nifong may have faced a lot of racial and political (88 Duke Faculty) pressure, and figured that things would play out differently. In hindsight, he was completely wrong, but, being a man with power, he may not have seen things that way.

 

Unfortunately, we do not live in a Fair and Just World. Kimberlin is a Trust Fund Terrorist, who has apparently relied on his family to bail him out.

 

Put their money in jeopardy (they've been supporting him, they may be accomplices, or at least civilly liable), and K will be on his own.

 

Then stand up to K and he will fold, like most Leftists. Punish him severely, and make it clear that this punishment is standard, and many other Leftists will slink away ... it's their Draft Dodger Gene.

121

Rush is playing this the right way if he is ignoring the swattig stuff and the kimberlin NUTJOB on purpose.  It's not worth getting killed over, but some bloggers disagree I guess.

122 you didn't think it was a tad bit "coincidental" that he warns the cops last week that soembody may try to Swat him and then of course that happens?

Nope.  Any intelligent high profile personality covering this would do the same thing knowing SWAT'ing was Kimberlin's MO. 

People aren't as stupid as you seem to think they are.  Some can actually recognize what might be in their self-interest.

Kimberlin is playing checkers, he'll be taken down by someone playing chess.

123 All's fair in love and Chicago politics...

124

Well Purp,

Bloggers looking for publicity too.  This is a good way to get it. 

Look, I'm just having fun talking about this story, I'm probably full of crap, dont wig out at me.   I have a hard time believing all these bloggers are targets of this one dude, he's got one hell of a crimianl enterprise if he's singling them out and swatting them within a few days of some blog post about him.

125 Gloves need to come o ff . I say find this maggot kremlin and tie him up in legal lawsuits, and other legal malities. give him dose of his own medicine, oh and if you read patterico's expse you can see a suspect has already been identified

126 So Erikson is a Liar? Not liar enough for CNN though. This happened to the Patterico guy, He is some kind of D.A. in California. This isn't a story? This SWATing thing and other harassment needs to be stopped now!

127 . I have nothing against him but I wouldn't get too far out on it until we know more.

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 12:43 AM (4BzOb)

Who is this "WE" kemosabe?  Never ever saw you here before the Beck thread you so thoroughly hijacked.  Freak.

128 Well, I tend to believe the Patterico guy, but I'm very skeptical of RSM's story, and EXTREMELY skeptical of  Erickson for the reason I provided.   It seems hard to believe, which is one of their basic premises, this kind of thing shouldn't happen in america, so don't fault me for thinking imaybe it's not.

129 Patterico is talking about this right now on Darby Stranahan (link at Patterico, scroll down for it).

130

I hijacked a Beck thread?  That was more about this story, not Beck, he just covered it. 

You guys ar emore like that teacher in NC who tried to say we can't criticize the president than you know.   Erickson is only a man, I can doubt some of his claims.  I gave a good reason for doing so.  You don't have to agree but it's logical.

131 (4BzOb)  Dude.  You're a serious problem. Hope Ace is tracking you.

132 I'm...full of crap

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:03 AM

Hope you don't mind if quote you MSM style.

133

135  Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:03 AM (4BzOb)

 

I have a hard time believing all these bloggers are targets of this one dude, he's got one hell of a crimianl enterprise if he's singling them out and swatting them within a few days of some blog post about him.

 

Really?

 

Let's look at K's past: Convicted of multiple bombings, possibly to steer the police away from a murder of a woman, hundreds of lawsuits, to keep people from talking about the public records of his past ... there's more ... what's hard to believe?

134 fuck off rbert you wouldnt find this so funny if your house was swatted

135 Derak,  he'll probably throw me out soon.  I accept that, but if I censor myself in here, isnt that what you are opposing with your interest in the Kimlerlin thing.  Intimidation tactics, going after bloggers speaking truth to power?    I'm just throwing out theories, I don't claim to be able to prove this stuff.   Don't take it so seriously.   Maybe everything I'm saying is crazy, so what? 

136 If anyone is inclined to pray to the Living God and hasn't begun praying, I suggest that now would be the time to start. Read the Word so that you'll know exactly what to pray for and how.

This is our only hope.

137 To SWAT someone, does the perpetrator actually need to electronically spoof calling from the target's actual phone number, or just verbally claim to be at that adress?

138 .I have a hard time believing all these bloggers are targets of this one dude, he's got one hell of a crimianl enterprise if he's singling them out and swatting them within a few days of some blog post about him.

He's had a lot of practice with criminal enterprise, and this is the only thing he's paid to do.

Do you know how many distinct crimes the typical "career criminal" out on the street perpetrates in an average day?   I do.  The number is closer to 10 than zero.

139 I'm...crazy...

-  Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:11 AM

I can see why the MSM does this, it's kinda fun.

140 Kimberlin is a demon, and he's not alone.  Sorry for those who believe that those exist. Very sorry.

141 (4BzOb)  How convenient that you just showed up all of a sudden after the "Kimmerlin" thing, never to have graced us with your presence before, like, ever.
Uh. Huh.    Work it, freak.

142

Arbalest,

Well I think these bloggers are thinking about what you are, that Kimberli is a nutjob, so maybe a wrong call to RSM's wife's employer is construed as being related to Kimberlin.   Or maybe, and this is what I think is going on, some liberal frat boy types are just screwing with some of these conservative bloggers by trying to swat them, after seeing them talk about it.   I think that's more liekly than than this idea that Kimberlin knows all these conservative bloggers and is targeting thems in a matter of a few days.  Even our CIA doesn't operate that quickly.

143 I have . . . got one hell of a crimianl enterprise

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:03 AM (4BzOb)

You're right, Blanco, this IS fun!

144 I...nutjob

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:15 AM

145 Correction: Sorry for those who *don't* believe that those exist.

146 (4BzOb) is VERY suspicious, you guys might want to email ace about said commentor

147 The conservative bloggers are putting the swatting idea out there to general public who probably never even thought about this before so I think it's legit to think that some liberal frat boy types would be havig fun with this.  This swatting stuff is some pretty mild stuff compared to what I saw some fat boys doing at Clemson.  They do some crazy stuff and they don't care.

148 Is it just me or does this Ford guy remind anyone of Christoph (sp?) who got banned awhile back for similar behavior?

149 Should have put this in this thread - Patterico and Stranahan on blog radio right now talking about SWATing - http://tinyurl.com/794lmf8

150 @159 Christoph was banned for making everything about how proud an atheist he was, pulling the allahpundit crap basically. this (4BzOb) is acting way too suspicious for someone who suddenly happen to pop out after this stuff came up.

151 I think it's legit . . . havig fun with this . . . swatting stuff

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:18 AM (4BzOb)

152 You guys sound like conspiracy theorists if you claim I am Kimberlin or I'm one of his henchmen.  I think you gusy are in danger of letting paranoia take over.  If I thought some crazy NUTJOB terrorist dude was targeting me, I would STFU up about him and let the police take over.  That' just me, probalby too logical and not as fun, SOme people like to live dangerously, that's not for me. 

153 Don't take it so seriously. Maybe everything I'm saying is crazy, so what?

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:11 AM (4BzOb)

Tell that to Ace, freak.

154

153 CRF

 

In reverse order:

 

 Even our CIA doesn't operate that quickly.

 

Who operates faster than 1 man on a mission?

 

Or maybe, and this is what I think is going on, some liberal frat boy types are just screwing with some of these conservative bloggers by trying to swat them, after seeing them talk about it.

 

Maybe ... names? Anyone with a history of SWATting?

 

I think that's more liekly than than this idea that Kimberlin knows all these conservative bloggers and is targeting thems in a matter of a few days.

 

Maybe ... except that Kimberlin has a history of doing these things.

 

Your arguments are a bit weak.

155 I am Kimberlin

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:20 AM (4BzOb)

156 or just verbally claim to be at that adress?

It can be anything depending on how eager the local police are.  Bogus 911 calls are fairly common, but a gunshot report will usually, but not always get their attention. 

I called 911 last year about an obvious gunfight that happened in my neighborhood (multiple shots, two distinct calibres, clearly not fireworks), and gave them a general compass heading and rough distance they came from.   I don't know if they sent a car or not to look for bodies in the street.  They never got back to me.

157 (4BzOb) is VERY suspicious, you guys might want to email ace about said commentor

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at May 28, 2012 01:18 AM (8beAV)

I've had that thought as well, might be some minion of a connected leftist apparatchik.

158 I'm...some crazy NUTJOB terrorist dude...

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:20 AM

159

There is bad crazy and good crazy.   I dont mean to brag, but I'm good crazy.  Kimberlin is bad crazy.

160 163 You guys sound like conspiracy theorists if you claim I am Kimberlin or I'm one of his henchmen.
Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:20 AM (4BzOb)

Golly, who leveled that accusation?  Who?  Gotta time and date stamp?

161 Look, this thread is a lot more fun with me posting on it than not.  Concede me that even if you think  i'm some kind of MORAN IDIOT.

162 You know if they cover it, it will be "Echoes of Timothy McVeigh the Christianist far right winger".

163 ...i'm some kind of MORAN IDIOT.

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:25 AM

164 Look, this thread is a lot more fun with me posting on it than not.

You have a pretty high opinion of yourself. 

165 Nobody doubts Kimmerlin is a NUTJOB or that he is capable of targeting people but I do doubt he's targetting RSM or Erick Erickso of Redstate and Macon Georgia talk radio.  C'mon man.

166 Coward Robert Ford is making me very, very cranky.

Can we have the whole of the old "It was the dirty little coward/Who shot Mr. Howard/That laid Jesse James in his grave" ballad?

Not that I hold any brief for Jesse James, but I'm really sick of this smarmy bastard.

167 I misspelled MORAN on purpose for effect, but you guys will just claim i'm spinning out of embarrasment at my own stupidity exxposed.

168 170 There is...crazy.,. I'm...crazy Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:23 AM (4BzOb) Hey, this IS fun!

169 It is also true that, initially, the public information of the case pointed to "guilty". It took some scary time and effort to explode the lies, but it happened.



Strongly disagree.  I was actually on Buchanan Blvd in Durham when I heard the 911 call played on the radio the first time.  The caller (the other dancer, not Mangum) said that after they "escaped" the house, they were "so scared" that they "drove back by" a couple times IIRC to "see what was going on."  If that is not a complete bullshit story I don't know what is.

170 (4BzOb) looks to have a large ego of himself, suddenly the theory it's christoph returned is one that might have validity. but again I highly recommend people give ace the heads up on this one. for w/e reason he won't ban Curious but i'm sure he'd listen up on this (4BzOb) prick

171

178 CRF

 

I do doubt he's targetting RSM or Erick Erickso of Redstate and Macon Georgia talk radio.

 

Why? Reasons, arguments ... anything?

 

C'mon man.

 

This is it? ...C'mon man.

172 You have a pretty high opinion of yourself. More like delusions of grandeur

173 ...i'm spinning...my own stupidity...

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:28 AM

174 You guys are going to have eggs on your face if I turn out to be right about RSM and Erickson's stories ot being related to Kimerlin.   I won't gloat about it b/c I'm a class act but you'll probably keep calling me stupid and other hurtful things.

175 <<The conservative bloggers are putting the swatting idea out there to general public who probably never even thought about this before so I think it's legit to think that some liberal frat boy types would be havig fun with this.>>



You think liberal frat boys are SWATting two different conservative bloggers in two different states (in completely different parts of the country)? For fun?

Two different conservative bloggers have the cops called to their houses by anonymous phone calls and your first instinct is to brush it off as frat boys?

You need a cattleprod enema, Fuckstick.

176 perhaps seeing his grand ego of himself while claiming to be on our side, (4BzOb) is actually Greg.

177 In case any latecomers are interested, Patterico is discussing the whole thing for another hour with Stranahan.  Link at Patterico's latest post (scroll down a bit for it).

178 EE has a big voice particularly in GA. He's also on WSB at least 5 days a week, one if the biggest conservative talk radio stations in the country. He's a lawyer: he is not going to lie about this and risk his professional reputation. He may be obnoxious at times but he is not stupid. Also, GA is not CA or NY. They get enough evidence they may well investigate/prosecute.

179

Ace's reason for banning hedgehog were not very good in my view.  Sound like he was trying to justify it but didn't really buy his own explaination.   

I'll accept being banned but seems kind of "gay" to ban some dude for some no doubt crazy theory.  If I'm crazy i can't help it but I seem harmless enough.

180 Not to mention WSB is a 50,000 watt AM blowtorch; it covers thirty-eight (3 states at night.

181

small town gir.

I appreciate your thoughtful comments, but ERickson did squander some trust when he told people he had some big scoop on the loser blogger dude in SC who was asserting he had an affair with Nikki Haley and then he didn't have anything.    Why should I believe that guy on anything now?  He's got toearn trust now. 

182 I...stupid...

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:31 AM

183 I won't gloat about it b/c I'm a class act but you'll probably keep calling me stupid and other hurtful things.

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:31 AM (4BzOb) 

OMG where's Phoenixgirl when you need her? Is this curious with a new computer?. (ofzic)

184

The parable of Erickson is honesty is always the best policy, you cry wolf  falsely just once and  not all people not going to believe you when it's true.

185 I...squander...anything...

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:34 AM

186 #185 - Coward Robert Ford

1) The bastard's name is Kimberlin. Get it right.

2) You're saying that two men with small children at home are getting themselves SWATted? Are you nuts? (The last is an editorial comment/rhetorical exclamation of horrified outrage. Ignore - do not attempt to answer.)

3) I link the lyrics to the ballad. You don't come off well. http: // www.poemhunter.com/ poem/ jesse-james/

187 The odor of sick fuck and cat piss is getting too strong in here.  Good night, good people (you know who you are). 

188

Dianna,

THere's no doubt I don't know as much about this Kimberlin stuff as you.   I never been as confused by a story in my life, it's so convuluted with all these people never heard of getting harrassed by other people you never heard  of.  

But the reality is I know more about it than 99.99999999999% of Americans do.   

189

Can targetted people make their phones record every call, or would that not help?  911 operators have to keep the tapes of every call, don't they?  Can a 911 tape be requested because a SWAT team came to a targetted person's house at a certain time, by a targetted person's lawyer, even if there is no case at the time?

 

And Random--"Are women going to keep putting their self-interests ahead of being honest?"

WTH did that come from?  How does that comment fit in with this discussion?  Are you saying that all women are terrorists?  The hell is wrong with you?

190 Leftists always blame conservatives. They need to look at the log in their own eyes.  Billy Clinton. Clinton was recently seen with porn stars. He was an impeached perverted perjurer who was also disbarred. Politically, he could handle the job, but would you leave him behind closed doors with a female you knew

191 Lewinsky was the tip of the iceberg. He was also accused of numerous other offenses like groping disinterested women in his office,phone sex, and rape back in the 80's. If a teacher or business executive did what he did, they'd be fired and probably arrested.

192 But the reality is I know more about it than 99.99999999999% of Americans do.

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:39 AM (4BzOb)

 

And yet you are still an uninformed ignorant shithead about all of it.  Get lost troll.

193

Coward Robert Ford:

 

So, you're here to just state your unsubstantiated opinion, which, as far as I'm concerned, you're entitled to do, and hope it persuades any juveniles who happen to pass by, rather than provide links and make a reasoned, educated, adult-level argument ... is that it?

 

It's real flaccid stuff, the sort of thing usually posted at Kos,DU or FDL. Seriously, you write like someone of considerable intelligence, someone who could analyze facts ... yet seems not to do so ... why?

194 Caller ID spoofing is a major problem.  It used by many people including bill collectors. Just google caller ID spoofing, or Spoofcard, Telespoof, Spooftel or the like.

One can get a card or an account that changes his/her caller ID to a fictional caller ID. All the perp needs to do get the area code and the local 3 digit code close to his victim and fake a call to the police. The police see the fake caller ID and the "SWAT" trick is then put in motion.

195 perhaps (4BzOb) and curious are one in the same?

196 Posted by: Peaches at May 28, 2012 01:39 AM (kpCLl)

I'm with ya. This freak is either curious or some inmate in purgatory.  I feel like I fell in a cesspool. Later, bye.

197

Clintons role when he messed with Monica was essentially that of a teacher. Can you imagine if a teacher or administrator engaged in that sort of thing with an adult student on school premises or if a corporate or hospital exec did that with a student intern? Teachers and business executives are just commoners. Rules don't apply to the liberal nobility.

 

198 And yet you are still an uninformed ignorant shithead about all of it. Get lost troll. Posted by: buzzion

*Sigh*

They never, ever do. It's like a law of nature, only worse, resembling one of those scary correspondences that only really work in imaginary magic. Why is that?

199 @205 - I thought 911 used ANI, not Caller ID.

200 i think i'm making some logical points, i don't care if you buy into my little theories but why make it personal.  Geez, lighten up people.  To me this stuff is a criminal matter that you need to go to the cops on but these bloggers want to try to resolve in cyberspace and that's not going to happen if these dudes are crazy enough to swat you.  There's no shame in dealing with something quietly especialy if you are dealing with some NUTJOB. But I am a known coward.

201 (4BzOb) has christoph's ego and curious' ignorace. ugly ass combination.

202 Why Erickson?  Did he post about Kimberlin?  If not it may be a copycat type of thing or an associate.

But I think the people doing this will keep doing it until they run into the wrong judge or the wrong jurisdiction.  The heat is on now and it is likely that they are too stupid and have too little self-control to know they need to stop and lay low.  My bet is that deep down they enjoy the attention and manipulation.  They will look at the frenzy they have caused and will not be able to resist stirring the pot.

And that will ultimately be their undoing. 

203 (4BzOb)'s whining is and demanding people lighten up is a strong case for curious

204 The fact that we are suddenly over-run with trolls speaks volumes. Ace stay safe and feel free to get out the ban-hammer.

205 i think i'm...a criminal...NUTJOB.

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:46 AM

206

but these bloggers want to try to resolve in cyberspace

 

Like I said.  You are an uninformed worthless piece of shit.

207

small town girl,

I'm the only one here saying the kind of stuff I'm saying.  How can you say the blog has been "overrun by trolls".    Am I , one person, plural in your view, and capble of overruning a blog that is like 100 to 1 against me on this issue?    C'mon woman.

208

214 Why Erickson? Did he post about Kimberlin?

 

Yes he did post about Kimberlin.

209 I won't gloat about it b/c I'm a class act but you'll probably keep calling me stupid and other hurtful things.

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:31 AM (4BzOb)

**********************

If this doesn't sound like some some whiny little leftard bitch (no offense, 'ettes), I don't know what does.

210 (4BzOb) is making a better and better case that this is curious

211 If this blog can't handle 1 dude (1 hero) in the comments section expressingn some skepticism in a fun gentle sort of way, what can it handle.  There's no tolerance of different views here if that's the case and so what's the problemo with Kimberline?    You are more like him than you know if you want to intimidate me out of some harmless opinions.

212 just to check up on it, does anyone know what catpiss' comments were on this subject?

213

Its all messed up

214 Coward Robert Ford-Average Joe?

215 #199 Coward Robert Ford -

Did I say I was an authority on this Kimberlin matter? I did not, nor would I claim any such thing!

Second: It's very simple, if you keep to the main line of the tale. Sticking only to the provable, convicted or self-reported facts:

1) Brett Kimberlin was a drug dealer (self reported) who committed tax fraud (self reported).
2) Brett Kimberlin was convicted in federal court of perjury at the age of 19 (fact).
3) Brett Kimberlin was convicted of the Speedway Bombings (eight blasts in six days); the fraudulent use of Department of Defense ID and the Presidential Seal (procuring chemicals for the explosives) and some more drug offenses.
4) For reasons many of us find incredible - policy at the time - Kimberlin was released.
5) Kimberlin had his parole revoked for dodging paying a civil judgement.
6) Somehow, Kimberlin was released and now runs a couple 501 (c)'s, and spends a great deal of time and effort legally harassing unfortunates who notice his history and write about it.

It's all very, very simple in outline. Terribly tangled, complicated and nearly unreal in its details, but just sordid and sad and tired in the main thrust of the story.

Got it? good. Now go away.

216 199 Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:39 AM (4BzOb)

 

THere's no doubt I don't know as much about this Kimberlin stuff as you.

 

Probably true.

 

I never been as confused by a story in my life,

 

Ahhh, here it is: YOU are confused. No one else is.

 

 it's so convuluted with all these people never heard of getting harrassed by other people you never heard of.

 

The story is not particularly convoluted, and I've heard of many of these people, as have other commenters.  You seem to be alone in the information darkness.

 

But the reality is I know more about it than 99.99999999999% of Americans do.

 

No, you, by your previous sentences in your comment contradict this statement. Further, several people here know more about this than you, therefore, your "99.99999999999%" number is incorrect.

 

Why not spend some time and read some of th epevious threads ... you may save yourself much personal embarassment in fromt of your real-life friends.

217 @ 222 I agree with you. Cit's that 'stuck on stupid' smell.

218 (4BzOb) is def. sounding like curious except that it/he/she sounds more smarter and analytical...but with the same ignorance

219 making accusations of that these guys are faking what is going on is not harmless you pathetic  uninformed  lying piece of garbage.

220 214 Why Erickson? Did he post about Kimberlin?

Posted by: Voluble at May 28, 2012 01:47 AM (c8WV/)

This is probably why: http://tinyurl.com/7w7sse2

Or, perhaps, the results thereof. I didn't check the dates.

221

Look when I saw Erickson was best buddies with the two Macon cops "assigned" to his "case" that he warned  that this swatting thing would happen to himTHIS week,  my bullshit radar started going off like crazy.  It seems a little TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE from a politics stand point.   BLoggers/radio show hosts talk about swatting/Kimberline store, next few days they are targetted.   You got to admit that it seems kind of CONTRIVED. 

I'm justs saying this stuff sounds CRAZY but I don't say there is no way it can be TRUE.  Some true things are also crazy sounding.

222 ...this...hero...expressingn...tolerance of different views...Kimberline?

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:51 AM

223 Dude, you can't roll with me in this discussion so you flog my screenname inspriration.  That's disppointing.

224 Look...my bullshit...seems a little...CONTRIVED.   I'm justs...CRAZY...

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 01:56 AM

225 Wait a second...Erickson still lives in Macon?  He commutes from there to CNN in Atlanta?  I guess that's not totally crazy.

226 #234 - I respond with the same incredulous and horrified response I gave a troll using the very same argument elsewhere:

You think a man with children at home is going to cause the cops to come to his home, guns drawn? Are you nuts, or just evil?

Erick Erickson may be a blowhard and a fool, for all I know. I read the Morning Briefing and find it useful, so I tend to have a positive impression. But to suggest such a mad, stupid and vile action by the father of the children in question is beyond the acceptable lines of civil discourse.

It's a smarmy, disgusting accusation, and if you're making it merely on a speculative basis, I suggest you take a long look at your character, because you have a problem.

227 Look this is the price you pay when you are truly an indpendent thinker,  Everybody likes to say they are but humans are generally pack animals.  I'm a lone wolf and I want to be able to say I did it my way when this all over.

228 Interesting - Glenn Reynolds says he also called his local sheriffs office to give them a heads up about possible swatting attempts:

"Really, if the goal is to keep people from writing about Brett Kimberlin, this doesnÂ’t seem like the way to do it. It was smart of Erickson to call his local Sheriff ahead of time. I did the same thing."
http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/143876/

Given that swatting seems to happen to anyone who writes too much about Kimberlin it's probably a prudent measure.

229 Dude...roll with me...

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:01 AM

230 Look...Everybody...I'm a...wolf...

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:03 AM

231 well I can't stay much longer but again I implore folks to ask ace questions about this suspicious (4BzOb) character

232 229 Cit's that 'stuck on stupid' smell. WTF? You may not believe SOS, & that's fine. But he has NEVER come off with any whacked out shit like this.

233

246 BBD

 

"stuck on stupid" --> the condition, not our SoS ...

234 Guys, I just want to believe this stuff isnt true, you guys want to believe it is true.  I think that is a little twisted.   I find this story to have several elements it that are hard to believe and seem improbable.  

235 I find this story to have several elements it that are hard to believe and seem improbable.

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:12 AM (4BzOb)

 

Because you are an uninformed idiot that actually doesn't know what is going on and continue to demonstrate this fact.

236 Did anyone just catch some chucklenut claiming to be Patterico's swatter calling in to Stranahan's show?

237 Guys, I...believe this stuff...that is a little twisted...and...improbable.

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:12 AM

238 sorry for the extra data. I had to copy/edit the article using older technology.

239 Yes Adbalest that is what I meant. I was not thinking about our SOS at all.

240

248 Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:12 AM (4BzOb)

 

 Guys, I just want to believe this stuff isnt true, you guys want to believe it is true. I think that is a little twisted. I find this story to have several elements it that are hard to believe and seem improbable.

 

But ... you are confused, remember? This whole story is so convoluted ...

 

No one wants this story to be true ... but the availble evidence says it is true ...  wishing it away is ... childish.
 

241 Let the blog record show that Coward Robert Ford has expressed skepticism towards Erick Ericson's story of being swatted.
Also let the blog record show that CRF is a self-described 'lone wolf'.

Okay then.

242 251 Did anyone just catch some chucklenut claiming to be Patterico's swatter calling in to Stranahan's show?

Posted by: Mister Christopher

I read about it, over at Patterico's. I was going to try to listen, then I realized it's after 11 (my time), and I'm beat. So I'll listen in the morning, when it will be linked everywhere.

Good night.

P.S. - Someone find a way to humiliate Coward Robert Ford so I never see him again, please? He's making me feel sick with disgust.

243

maetenloch,

I'm not obligated to bleat in agreement with everything a conservative blogger thinks.  There are not my thought leader/master.  I think these things and i share and I don't care if you disagree.  It seems disrespectful to make it personal.  You can run with the pack on everything or you can question things from time to time if you have some doubts.

244 notice (4BzOb) has not addressed the fact he/she/it has only come after this story came out, but we're crazy to be suspicious

245

well RSM just banned me from his website, which I predicted b/c he's kind of a redneck conservative type.  So I doubt I'm long for this one. 

It was worth it thought, freedom of speech always is. 

246 I'm...obligated to bleat...these things...

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:20 AM

247 The Occupy people SAID they were going to amp up the violence this summer. And they are. FUCK YOU BILL AYERS AND ALL YOUR LEFTIST THUG HANGERS-ON.

248 I'm not obligated to bleat in agreement with everything a conservative blogger thinks. There are not my thought leader/master. I think these things and i share and I don't care if you disagree. It seems disrespectful to make it personal. You can run with the pack on everything or you can question things from time to time if you have some doubts.
Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:20 AM (4BzOb)

Your declarations have been entered into the record so there's no need to repeat them.

Do you have any thing new to say or just more of  the same?

249 ...I doubt I'm long...

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:21 AM

250 Hah, you guys are a tough crowd but I think you are starting to thaw out and warm up to me.   

251 258 Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:20 AM (4BzOb)

 I think these things and i share and I don't care if you disagree.

 

But since you are confused, if you share, you implicitly want ... guidance.

 

You can run with the pack on everything or you can question things from time to time if you have some doubts.

 

But if you are confused, how do you know if you are still running with the pack? Or the right pack? This particular story is convoluted ...

252

Maetenloch,

I'm going to call it a day, i have some traveling to do, i've going underground b/c some swatters probably going to target me.  I relady informed the cops to be on the look out.   

253 4BzOb looks like an operative trying to plant a "paranoid wingnuts" meme, or a "they're doing it themselves" one.

Kind of like Weinergate, and kind of like a guy who loves to use diversions

254

kdabear,

I was paranoid about getting Weiner's weiner sent to me in a Tweet.  It never happened, b/c i gave the cops a heads up.   

255 where's that worthless idiot coward Robert Ford to claim this is just a
hoax and isn't happening like he has for two days straight on the Glenn
beck thread

Posted by buzzion

Does he also use the handle "Dr._Tesla"? if so, he's gumming up the works over at RSM's, claiming that Erick Erickson "SWATted" himself!

Please, I really hate this guy, now. Tell me it's the same jerk?

The same dr Tesla, a dick of epic proportions, and I got into a row on Twitter. Yes, that snapperhead a-hole, who claims to be a consevative but sounds like a douche, is on Twitter. He is an engineer, so he says, and gets pissed if you say anything that he disagrees with. He is also good at projecting, as he did in Erick's case. This ass-weasel needs to be shut up and sent back into his corner of the cave.

He's an a-hole, plain and simple. And the same way on Twitter.

Look hi handle up and see. Complete douchnozzle.

Oh, yeah: Howdy 'rons. Been away a while.

256 I was paranoid...b/c i gave the cops...head...

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:34 AM

257

268 Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:34 AM (4BzOb)

 

It never happened, b/c i gave the cops a heads up.

 

Do you ever question your decision? I mean, c'mon man.

258 Why should i have feared weiner's weiner, kristen powers is eye candy and she was a bif fan of weiner's weiner so maybe it is quite something to behold.  I was being rigid back in those days but i'm very open minded about weiner's weiner now. 

259 I hope every conservative blogger in America alerted their local Sheriff's dept. Getting this swatting thing out in the open is the only way to diffuse it.

260 ...i...feared...rigid..wiener...

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:39 AM (4BzOb)

261 trust me, every conservative blogger has alerted the police about this.  If there is one thing I know from reading all this Kimberlin stuff the past week, it's that.  

262 Coward Robert Ford has been here many times before. His MO is that he posts VERY fast, pretends to be a conservative (he speaks the language) and always concedes the main point while quibbling over small ones.

263 trust me... I know...Kimberlin...

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:42 AM

264 @270 (4BzOb) sure sound like this guy, he just proudly announced that he was banned from there. sure sounds like a giant douche

265

Amish,

I don't think liberals can speak conservative very well. and they couldn't fake it as a long as I do, if we run with your theory that i'm a closet lib playing games. 

I think some conservaive bloggers tend to have kind of "paranoid" type of personalities.   don't mean that as putdown, but conservaives in general tend to be more "paranoid" b/c we distrust the government.  I don't see that as a bad thing but i think this story has a lot of stuff that is hard to believe.   Some criminal thug dude is targeting RSM and Erick Erickson?  Those guys aren't that well known even among conservatives.

266 I don't think...

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:47 AM

267

I wish RSM hadn't ban me, he could have jsut talked to me but if he's living on   the run, he's got bigger fish to fry than some dude on his website comments section.

All I wanted to know from him was what the stranger who called his wife's empployer said, the specifics of that, b/c that would help be judge if he's being "paranoid" by leaving the house or not.   

268 I work with law enforcement and just because he told them something might happen, they don't always get the message.Posted by: agathapagatha

Not exactly encouraging.

269 Posted by: Coward Robert Ford

You seem concerned.

270 I wish...to fry...

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:50 AM

271 I'm glad i picked a safe occupation like mechanical engineering.  Ed Morrisey was talking about some nut who was stalking him and it just something random, not a coordinated attack like the Kimberlin stuff as been.

272 Okay I'm coining a new term...

Skepticism Troll: Someone who expresses skepticism over something and then endlessly quibbles over the exact degree of their skepticism while preening themselves on how open-minded this makes them.

273 A conservative would never have CRF as a namesake. Just sayin'.

274 I'm glad i picked...Kimberlin...

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:54 AM

275 Skepticism Troll: Someone who expresses skepticism over something and then endlessly quibbles over the exact degree of their skepticism while preening themselves on how open-minded this makes them.

I second that emotion.

276 Skepticism Troll: Someone who expresses skepticism over something and then endlessly quibbles over the exact degree of their skepticism while preening themselves on how open-minded this makes them. Posted by: Mætenloch

Skepti-troll, a bit unweildy, but comprehensive. Then again, nothing outside the scope and feck of the average troll, non?

277

280 Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:47 AM (4BzOb)

 

... but i think this story has a lot of stuff that is hard to believe. Some criminal thug dude is targeting RSM and Erick Erickson? Those guys aren't that well known even among conservatives.

 

What "stuff" is hard to believe? You should have little difficulty listing 10 separate items.

 

That someone SWATted Erickson seems clear; he's simply the latest victim ... unless something comes to light ...

 

The real question is Kimberlin ...

 

1. Did he do the things that he was convicted of doing, and does he do the things that several others accuse him of doing? It seems clear that the answers are "yes" and "yes" ... unless you have information ... not an opinion, information ... a link or 5 would be good.

 

2. Why would he SWAT people? Why does he sue so many times? Some people are ... crazy ... real headcases.

Some of his family are quite successful; maybe , because he's a failure, he has a persecution complex. Talk about him at all and risk his wrath ... speak (or print) the truth, and he goes berserk ... ever meet anyone like this? They aren't all that rare ... fortunately, many of them do not do what Kimberlin does.

 

What about this is tough to understand? What is part is unblieveable?

278 Well you guys are more cynical than I am, i'm a sincere guy i tell you the play by play of my thought process and i don't say that no way in hell i'm wrong.  what else do you want.  I've advise theese bloggers to maybe not focus so much on it, i don't think it's worth getting killed over and just farm out to the people who can deal with it.  I'm showing concern for them while doubting some of their claims.  I've said that i believe the patterico guy, but i have some doubts about RSM and Big Red's claims.  It's not personal, i don't know these guys but seems kind of contrived. 

279 293 Well you guys are more cynical than I am, i'm a sincere guy i tell you the play by play of my thought process and i don't say that no way in hell i'm wrong. what else do you want. I've advise theese bloggers to maybe not focus so much on it, i don't think it's worth getting killed over and just farm out to the people who can deal with it. I'm showing concern for them while doubting some of their claims. I've said that i believe the patterico guy, but i have some doubts about RSM and Big Red's claims. It's not personal, i don't know these guys but seems kind of contrived.
Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 03:00 AM (4BzOb)

Your concerns and skepticism have been noted for the record. Again.

280 Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 03:00 AM (4BzOb)

Take a breath and a paragraph or nine. 

281 I am...wrong...

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 03:00 AM

282 You guys aint' ever wrong about anything?  You should major in mechanical engineering, it will humble you. 

283 From Stacy McCain;

http://tinyurl.com/7oyba6r

Convicted felon Brett Kimberlin is the nephew of a wealthy Maryland woman who has contributed to a foundation that helped fund a 501(c)3 organization of which Kimberlin is the director. KimberlinÂ’s activities have recently attracted widespread attention because of his attempts to intimidate and harass bloggers who wrote about his criminal history.

Harriet Crosby, 66, reportedly an heiress to the General Mills fortune, was one of the original donors to the Threshold Foundation, which contributed $20,000 to KimberlinÂ’s Justice Through Music Project in 2008, according to database research I reported May 19.

284

297 Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 03:06 AM (4BzOb)

 

You guys aint' ever wrong about anything?

 

We don't waste time pushing opinion as fact.

285 g

286 RSM's reporting on Kimberlin is fine, I only doubt he was targeted by Kimberlin.  I'm not trying to prosecute him on his claim, just admit i have a doubt.   

287 I'm telling ya, I don't trust the guy.

288 I only doubt he was targeted by Kimberlin. Posted by: Coward Robert Ford

Why?

289 CRF: "You should major in mechanical engineering, it will humble you." Ohhhh. College Student. No wonder he is a "free thinker".

290 Just remember: "If you see something, say something."

Or, the system worked. I guess.

291 WEll to be honest , a lot of it has to do with Erick erickson's lie about knowing stuff that proved Nikki Haley accuser was a liar.  I've always seen bloggers in a different light since then, i see them as amateurs,  limelight seeking, lightweights.   I was saying this stuff on RSM website PRIOR to the news hitting that Erickson was also targeted for a swat thing.   I don't believe a word that guy says now, and it did that to himself.   But the story just seems too good to be true, hero blogger takes on criminal thug, hero blogger targeted a few days later after warning cops he would be targeted.  I'd have to realy trust somebody to believe it, and erickson does have a past of saying something that isn't true.  I don't like being lied to even in the name of some good cause as erickson probably sees it.

292 Coward Robert Ford, do you believe Patterico was swatted? Or Mike Stack?

293 CRF: " I've always seen bloggers in a different light since then, i see them as amateurs, limelight seeking, lightweights." A free thinker that generalizes from one example? Interesting...

294 i'm not a college student, i'm 12 years out, and mechanical engineering isn't an "open mind" type of program. 

295 Coward Robert Ford, do you believe Weiner tweeted dong pics?

296 286 I'm glad i picked a safe occupation like mechanical engineering. Ed Morrisey was talking about some nut who was stalking him and it just something random, not a coordinated attack like the Kimberlin stuff as been.

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 02:54 AM (4BzOb) 

CRF: "You should major in mechanical engineering, it will humble you."

Yep, that's probably the same shiite-stain that used the 'Dr Tesla' tag. He probably is conservative, or thinks he is, i.e.: knows the lingo, but he's more prone to just haranguing and stirring up shiite, honestly. He constantly gets insulting about anyone not an engineer, and I think he is either a self important jack ass or a nobody in a big shop/company who thinks he's being overlooked.

He's an engineer, for cripe's sakes, can't we see that? It'd humble us to know how smart he is. He's a freaking genius. Just ask him.

Is he Dr Tesla, a-hole at large? Hard to say. But he sure shares that a-hole's personality traits. He's a troll, either way. And a shiite-stain.

So, he's a shiite-troll.

297

jesse james, pleasure to meet you finally.

I've said several times now i tend to believe the paterrico guy.  I don't know about the other guy, not familiar with his story. My sense of patterico is he was a lot "closer" to the kimberlin stuff than RSM and Big Red.

298 Since you're an engineer, does fire melt steel?

299 And for the record, Dr Tesla/Robert Ford/A-hole at large:

My twitter handle is "If it bleeds, kill it".



So while other morons/ettes don't know you, I do. I have probably met your sorry ass before and thus, have a feel for your stupidity. You're an ass-monkey.


Small world, ain't it, ass-wipe?



There or here.

300 CRF: "i'm not a college student, i'm 12 years out," Why would you say "major in mechanical engineering" instead of something like "work as a mechanical engineer" or even "study mechanical engineering"? Kind of an odd way to talk about your profession in terms of college, isn't it? I'm just asking questions.

301 Blanco Basura: you are killing me!!! Coward: why don't you pick up your ball and go back to "big daddy". I think we've all had a good laugh at your expense which only proves you are indeed a liberal progressive wingnut. No matter how hard you guys try, you just aren't smart enough to keep cover. I do feel sorry for you (like I do all you obot people things) because you say you think for yourself. But you dont. You lack both the intelligence and the confidence to be a free thinker because they made you that way. But like every other brain frozen libtard, you just cant shut the f up. You guys all talk yourself in to a hole of stupid and leave anyone with a lick of sense standing there scratching their heads wondering if you're for real, wondering if you even think you're for real! It's weird, like I can see your empty eyes with that blank stare that you all have when I was reading your comments. I don't read them anymore, just see your handle. I am not judging you, you be the man or people thing you want to be. I just wanted to put into words how I feel about you obots that used to be humans.

302 Mechanical engineering school more intense than work in my view. it's a tough program, lot of smart people drop out fall semester sophomore year.   It humbles most.

303 Stun me with your wit, dullard.

Try some condescending lines about your being an engineer. Stun me. Try to spell better than Twitter. You looked slow over there.

Dullard.

C'mon, stun me with your wit and repartee, DULLARD.

Try spellcheck, works wonders.

Ya, DULLARD.

304

I see some peope use this Logic:

B/c Kimberlin is a bad dude and sues all the time and maybe even swatted one or two people, that must mean he also swatted RSM and Big Red.

I think a competent judge would toss that Logic.  You got to look at very case on a individual basis.

305 CRF: "Mechanical engineering school more intense than work in my view. it's a tough program, lot of smart people drop out fall semester sophomore year. It humbles most." Still odd that you would so readily recall your experience as a college student, when you have been out of school for 12 years. Maybe you just miss those days so much it is always on your mind? I am just asking questions here. Your story seems...doubtful. (And no, I am not being ironic/satirical.)

306 Student- Dullard.

Student-DULLARD. Even better.

And a liar. Lying student-Dullard.

How's the ride to school in the short bus with the plastic bike helmet on, DULLARD?

Bet you get motion sick, dontcha, DULLARD-Student Liar.

I like mixing up your pedigree. Dullard's Pedigree. It humbles most Student- Dullards...

307 it's a tough program, lot of smart people drop out fall semester sophomore year. It humbles most.

LOL.  Only smart by your estimation.  It's a tough concept for your to grasp but you should let it sink in, a bit.

And fall semester sophmore year?  Too funny.  If they're dropping out of anything at that point because they can't hack it, they're idiots.  Obviously.

You're not very bright.

308 Now I kinda want to hear more about CRF's pedigree.  Like where he went to engineering school.

309 I've run into this type before. He is projecting his future. Since he "knows" he will be a mechanical engineer in the future based on his schooling, he "is" a mechanical engineer. At least, on the Internet. Who can tell anyways?

310 These people devolving into a species bent on their own extinction is actually giving some weight to the theory they came from some kind of slime. Funny that they think (have been told to think) they are evolving.

311

a-hole,

you think a mechanical engineer can be satirical?  You got to major in English to do satire i thought.

312 You suck. You're slow, patronizing, dull and uninteresting. I have some background not far from your "alleged field".

I wouldn't let you work by yourself. I would find a way to fire you.

You're dull: slow, and that's bad for a wannabe engineer. But great for a dullard, so there's that.


Dr   Mr. Tesla. You couldn't engineer a flushing toilet.


You're dismissed.

313 ...i'm not a college student, i'm 12...

- Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 03:33 AM

314 Of course, the other alternative is that he made it up all together. He sort of types like a type of older person I know. They value intelligence, so they feign it. It shows up in the way they talk...the sentence format is odd, as almost if artificially constructed to sound "wise".

315 I've mentioned Clemson a few times, when I compare the swat thing to something frat boys would do at Clemson, except more mild.  That's probably where i go to school but you guys seem hellbent on taking away my accomplishments. 

316 No, we just doubt your Internet story.

317 I ... swat ... frat boys ...

Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 03:43 AM (4BzOb)

318 Of course, the other alternative is that he made it up all together. He sort of types like a type of older person I know. They value intelligence, so they feign it. It shows up in the way they talk...the sentence format is odd, as almost if artificially constructed to sound "wise".

Posted by: A-Hole at May 28, 2012 03:43 AM (bV8xV)

You're exactly right on this. He comes off the same way on Twitter. If this sin't the same ass hat, he's a close relative. Like the son his mother bore for her dad or something. Too close not to be the same jackass. Or carved from the same hunk of rotten cheese.

A superior douche-bag, no doubt.  Wants to sound intelligent, fails at every turn: can't even spell well. Kinda sad, really.

But such is the life of a Dullard. He's a graduate of that.

319 @ 332  - Nice job, Adriane.  I didn't see that particular combo.

320 Well guys i'll see you on the dark side of the moon, i need to get my beauty sleep, i have epilepsy and sleep deprivation is the high risk behavoir for seizures and i have to travel tommorow as i'm going "underground"' with all this swatting of conservatives going on.  you guys stay safe and i mean that.

321 Well, for the record, Clemson is an ag school, and turns out some good engineers, actually. But not the hardest SAT/CSAT/ Entry Boards school to get into. Our high school f*ck-queen got a Master's there.

And she was a Dullard, too.

So he might be trying to hack it there. But he would be a Clemson grad I'd overlook, personally. Or put on projects like dog runs, or fencing projects.

Without moving parts or electrical sub-systems.

You can't trust those to a Dullard.

322 Yeah, Coward, you've got that Spring semester junior year sociology exam to study for.

"fall semester sophmore year" ... heh.  Funny stuff.  Stupid, but funny.

323 Was it something I said, Dullard?

Did I hurt your feelings? I hope so, but you're dull, so you might not even know that for a while.

For now, try mastering using the toilet and  paper towels. Use those engineering principles: flow mechanics and flushing toilets. Stick with it. One day you could design ramps for the restrooms on the interstate.

Out of wood. Without moving parts. Away from the power box.

On account of, well, you're slow. And dim. Dull.

Sure you aren't from Green Bow, Alabama?

Forrest? IS that you?

Dullard.

324 Come back. I like poking the Joe Biden types with a sharp stick.

I enjoy the drooling and the glazed over eyes the best.

Do they let you change your own depends, Dullard? Cook with an actual burner on?

Back at your group home ("dorm")...

325 Hate it when the weak ones shrink away. Can't stand even a half-assed fight.

No guts.

If the troll has gone I will go get some sleep.

326 Night, folks. Sorry to be an ass. Been in a bad mood for a couple days. This turd just set me off.

I do apologize.I'll go back to lurking now.

G'nite, 'ron and 'ronettes.

327 Good night, sandman.  I didn't see anything you need to apologize for.

328 Hallmark of the Left: they love to dish it out, but they just can't take it.

329 Older Tweet results for #brett kimberlin are unavailable.

330 The Planned Kimberlin Bombings.

http://tinyurl.com/7j6wye7

331 "If you ge SWATted, run this legal theory past your personal lawyer ... see if he will lean on the DA to get serious action aginst the caller." If anyone tries this nonsense with me and mine, and I find out who did it, I would take extreme steps to stop him from ever harming me or mine again.

332 Test if I'm still banned

333 Based on the lack of coverage of this type of terrorism by leftists by the MFM, and the total lack of coverage of the massive Catholic suit of HHS, I wonder if a Preference Cascade might precipitate for those middlin masses of massively uninformed that get their "news" from the commie media?

Guess I just answered my own question.

Good Memorial Day morning to any who may be up.

334 Good morning.  May the God of Mercy give peace and rest to the fallen.

335 Asking Eric "Ratface" Holder to investigate SWATings is like asking the fox to investigate the disturbance in the hen house.

336 Did Cocksucker Robert Ford dislocate his shoulder from patting himself on the back for being a "lone wolf"?

337 We will find the Tea Partiers responsible for this.

338 Patterico was on the Lee Stranahan show last night and a caller claimed to be his SWATter. Link is to Patterico's post giving details and a link to the podcast.

http://tinyurl.com/bwom6vo

339 I've advise theese bloggers to maybe not focus so much on it, i don't think it's worth getting killed over and just farm out to the people who can deal with it. I'm showing concern for them while doubting some of their claims. I've said that i believe the patterico guy, but i have some doubts about RSM and Big Red's claims. It's not personal, i don't know these guys but seems kind of contrived.

Posted by: Coward Robert Ford at May 28, 2012 03:00 AM (4BzOb)

IOW, sit down and shut up.

So you're an ME, huh?  Big deal.  So's my daughter.  She also passed grammar and punctuation.  

And SHE can have babies.

/snark

340 This will be ignored unless someone dies at which point the storyline will be that the Evil Rightwing dug up the background of this poor wrongfully convicted man who had turned his life around despite being wrongfully convicted and drove him mad. 

341 If the swatter is Ron Brynaert as some have alleged, it would not surprise me. The excerpts of his e-mails that I have seen posted read like the ramblings of a raving hysteric.

342 So... no morning thread then?

343 I'll get us a morning thread by going ahead and posting "news"


Good Morning Morons.  Today is Monday May 28, 2012.  Today is Memorial Day.  Today in 1892 the Watermelon Club was founded in San Francisco.

344 Sooo... I know Batman had the Bat Signal... what is it for Eric Holder?
--

Black Hole

345 House lawmakers will consider an international proposal next week to give the United Nations more control over the Internet.

http://is.gd/yqUQQY

346 Doc Watson is in bad shape folks.

http://is.gd/40USAd

347 The Sate sees nothing wrong with the CBC pushing black churches to fight voter ID laws.   Will the IRS pull their tax free status?   Hahahahahahaha

http://is.gd/6gFX9H

348 NASA scientists attacking NASA hyping of the AGW scam.


http://is.gd/QqPToz

349 To go OT, there's an interesting piece at zero hedge talking about the possible influence of trading algos on the FB IPO.  http://bit.ly/JCnXUB  I have no idea if this is true or not, btw, and it's zero hedge so take it as you may. 



As the Horde knows, I have a bit of A Thing about trading being dominated by algorithms, mainly because it turns the exchanges into trading the stock itself, separate from any type of valuation of the worth of the underlying company.  Mind you, I don't know what to do about that, but it is a problem. 

350 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at May 28, 2012 08:48 AM (Gk3SS) are you a trader/investment person?

351
CRF reminds me of the lefties on UseNet back during the Clinton years. The strange thing is, these are the best people Soros can buy and they really aren't very good.

Professional pot stirrers. I guess what they lack in skills is made up by determination.

OTOH, Soros does have some paid haxors that are pretty good and totally ruthless. Spammers like CRF are Soros' digital Brown Shirts while his haxors are his digital SA.

Whatta bunch of worthless goons.

352 @363 I seriously do not understand why anyone who can legally vote would be against voter ID- well, except the people who want to commit fraud. Under what basis would someone think, "Well, I can show my ID to buy a beer, cigarettes, or paint, but I'll be good-gosh-darned before I show it to vote!"

353 Reading some of the overnight comments. I don't think that you can rationalize Ford's comments on a blog. Maybe he is an engineer. He might have said that he studied mechanical engineering because it can be a broad term. I worked for corporations where people were called a "mechanical engineer" or "Engineer" without any specific training. I have seen companies train an  employee in what they needed to know and called them a "mechanical engineer " or engineer etc.  I have worked for fortune 500 companies where they call janitors "engineers". Engineer can be used as a broad term. I have met some pretty stupid "Engineers"

354 are you a trader/investment person?


Ahahahaha. No. Very much no. I just have an amateur (very amateur) interest in the topic.   I consider this all part of the meta discussion as to what is it that the exchanges are trading, are they trading fractional shares in companies or are they trading the stocks themselves, unmoored from the underlying valuation of the company the stock allegedly represents.  This also speaks to the issue of the FB IPO (and other IPOs as well but FB is the most current), is the IPO designed to raise capital for the company or is it designed to be a mechanism for the founders and initial employees of the company to receive value for their previous invested work?

355 Dude, where the hell is everyone?

356 Man, things just got slow. Note to self; come back after bit and start reading @371. Oh, and morning folks.

357 What's gone so wrong that we can't even find good watermelons these days?

Growing up a late boomer, Memorial Days were celebrated with a morning parade down the main street, then off to the pool to splash through the afternoon with a watermelon bust in the irrigated city park that sloped down to the dry river bed while local bands played into the night until the fireworks display launched up from the granite butte.

Today we look in @ ace to read that 911SWAT is out of control alongside the insanity pervading everyone's governments.

358 The NYT says the JEF hates Camp David because he can't golf there.

359 Dude, where the hell is everyone? I suspect many of them are sleeping in. Lazy louts probably don't have to work today {pout}

360 Engineer can be used as a broad term. I have met some pretty stupid "Engineers" Posted by: Lampshade
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Yes, engineer is a ver y broad term.

My father was in the Stationary Engineer's union..  He was in charge of commercial building's HVAC and other systems.. a fairly specialized trade, but not one needing any college, for sure.

361 @374: You are f*cking kidding me.

362 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

363 It would be nice if the LSM covered it, if only to inform the low-information peeps out there how bad things are, but I doubt they will. After all, its only the individualist bloggers who are the victims of these acts, and they're the ones who ruined the monopoly of the LSM...so I'm sure the executives at these dinosaurs are uninterested. More important, however, would be a legislative response, treating this as the serious crime it is , one presenting an extreme risk to life, not to mention police / prosecutors who actually pursue this to charges, rather than running away when the going gets tough. Maybe that's underway, but it sure seems quiet. That would take an America that was functioning, not degraded by years of Obamanomics and left wing engineered social and economic decline...

364 Banner ads here at this site are trying to get me to vote against Scott Walker.

WTF?

365

Its my birthday today, supposed to be 97 degrees (american scale), and the kids are supposed to drag me out of my nice 68 degree house into the pre-heating oven known as "outside"  for a cookout. I could use a beer, but don't have any.

And that is all I got.

366 "I want my Maypo!"


And I want my morning open thread.

Stat.

367

Jimmah

 

happy birthday

 

368 Aren't we pathetic? Everyone else is either sleeping in or getting prepared for Memorial services/parade/cookouts/general lazing around.

And we're here looking at pixels.

369 This seems appropriate to Memorial Day. Go have a look at the Decorah Bald Eagle livestream. Three eaglets in their eighth week are waiting breakfast.

http://tinyurl.com/3qkv8x4

370
377 @374: You are f*cking kidding me.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at May 28, 2012 09:09 AM (nUH8H)

Nope. You can read/listen about it at Newsbusters.

And you can golf at Camp David -- just not 18 holes.

http://tinyurl.com/clk34fb

371 Jimmah

happy birthday

Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at May 28, 2012 09:19 AM (XKRVz)

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THANKS - the big 48. I figure in a couple of years I'll earn the status of 50 years "young". Not sure of the cutoff point where the polarity switches.

On a bright note, I ordered a pool which should be here in a few days, thus GUARANTEEING the rest of the summer will be unseasonably cool. Thats how it usually works anyway.

372 381 Jimmah HAPPY B-DAY!

373 NO. BEER. ON. MEMORIAL DAY?

Wha happen? forgot to buy during open hours? I hate that about PA.

I'm from elsewhere; many elsewhere's and most of those places you could get alcohol most any day at most any time or in grocery stores.

My favorite is ABC liquors in FLA. They have DRIVE THROUGHS!!!!!!!1111!!!  I'll say it again they have DRIVE THROUGH pickup Liqour stores!!1!1!! I've got fond memories of FLA. Too hot in the summer though.

374 380 it would make sense to spend money trying to convert undecided lurkers to the dark side

375 And you can golf at Camp David -- just not 18 holes.

I wonder if there is a basketball court. Or Barky could take his daughters on a hike. Those hills around Thurmont are beautiful this time of year.

376 Join us Luke. Come over to the dark side. You have no idea of the power of the dark side.

Yeah that's been tried since Adam, Eve and the Snake.

It's a lie.

377 Thanks to the  the men & women who died while serving in the military. We owe  you our freedoms, including the freedom of creating and maintaining commerce.

378 Have you ever wondered why the MSM follows Obama with such devotion?  he treats them with contempt at every opportunity.  If he gets his way, they will lose all journalistic freedom. 

By supporting him with utter devotion, they are losing viewers and money.  Look a chart of Oprah's businesses since she came out for Obama - off the cliff would be an understatement.  When was the last time the NYTimes or MSNBC turned a profit?

379 369 Engineer can be used as a broad term. I have met some pretty stupid "Engineers".
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Not to offend, but "even" an Ivy League education means squat by the looks of Hillary and Barry-O.  Whelps fresh out of college, and assorted experienced engineers who hand their professionally designed contracted blueprints to the journeymen machinists who in turn point out the flaws along with the "fix" to the proud company of engineers boasting specified degrees of higher educational diplomas.

Off to garden now.

380 And it always ends in tears.

381 The fact that they still have the balls to pull this bullshit even after the attention they got last week scares me. They know they're safe from consequences.

The Left has a sanctioned goon squad that terrorizes with impunity.

I don't even want to consider how utterly ugly the whole summer will be, or what will happen if Barky loses in Nov.

382 Going to a barbecue today with friends and family. Plenty of meat to eat.

383

NO. BEER. ON. MEMORIAL DAY?

Wha happen? forgot to buy during open hours? I hate that about PA.
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We can buy it here in OH. I'm just too lazy to go get it. There's a third of a bottle of Jim Beam here, but the other 2/3rds were consumed during the ONT a few days ago. Not quite ready to hit that again yet.

384 @390 - Hi bunny, first I've seen ya here. I doubt that many lurkers around here would vote "dark side". Anyone who would lean that way wouldn't stick around long. Would you want to be shown what an idiot you are on a minute by minute basis?

385
OBAMA NATIONAL CO-CHAIR ‘VENTURE CAPITAL VAMPIRE’

By Todd Shepherd
May 24, 2012

President Obama continues to hammer presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney on his record with Bain Capital. In a fundraiser on Wednesday in Denver, the President continued to push the "Venture Capital Vampire" theme saying, "What Gov. Romney doesnÂ’t seem to get is that a healthy economy doesnÂ’t just mean a few folks maximizing their profits through massive layoffs or busting unions."

We wonder if former Denver Mayor and Clinton Transportation and Energy Secretary Federico Peña happened to be in the audience, and if he agreed.

Peña has been a partner at private equity firm Vestar Capital since 2000. And while President Obama has been giving private equity a bad name, both Peña and Vestar managing director James Kelley have made recent contributions to Obama’s re-election efforts.

Furthermore, Peña’s record as a venture capital investor dates even back to his 2008 days, when he also served as an Obama National Campaign Co-Chair…

So letÂ’s examine the recent "humanitarian" record of Vestar Capital.

In March of 2011, Vestar acquired 100% of Del Monte Foods through a leveraged buyout.

Just two weeks ago, Del Monte announced the closure of a plant in Kingsburg, Califoria, effectively slashing 1,000 jobs. "I am extraordinarily disappointed by Del Monte to make this decision," Kingsburg Mayor Bruce Blayney told the Kingsburg Recorder. "This is a major blow to the local economy."

Roughly eight years ago, Vestar purchased the Solo Cup Company.

According to this 2007 report, Solo Cup Co. (with Vestar as a parent firm) shuttered three U.S. factories. As early as 2010, with Vestar still as the parent company, Solo Cup announced plans to shut an eighty year old factory, ending more than 540 jobs.

In 2002, Vestar acquired frozen food giant BirdsEye Foods.

Roughly four years later, Vestar laid off approximately 500 workers at BirdsEye. "Some of them were employed at Birdseye for 15 to 30 years," according to KGO Ch. 7 in San FransicoÂ…

H/T S and L

http://tinyurl.com/crflg6l

Originally posted by The Complete Colorado

http://tinyurl.com/c98ruez

386 The MSM is like the homely girl that the football jock smiles at to get his homework done. She keeps hoping she's not being played for a fool but in her heart she knows he's just using her.

Strangely enough until they have their eyes opened by some occurrence, they'll defend to the death their "Beau" as being worth it and not using her etc. etc.

We've all seen that movie.

If they're lucky they wake up before they've got a bun in the oven and he's in Harvard or Yale or in rookie camp somewhere shacking up with the cheerleaders.

The MSM? Most of these people will be forced to retire soon so I think they're already screwed.

387 Time to get rid of the land line....if it can be spoofed?

388

the big 48

i've past the 50 young thingy, and  polarity reverses when you let it

 

389 Eisenhower used to like to go down and play at Augusta National.  Something us peons never get to do.

390 Banner ads here at this site are trying to get me to vote against Scott Walker. Well click on 'em. That way you throw a little change toward the head ewok, you also force the anti-walker forces to spend some more money, and it's not like you're actually going to vote Barrett in the recall, so it's "win" all the way around for us.

391 Doc Watson is in bad shape folks


Within the last week I was trying to remember if he was still alive.

392 New thread up

393 Time to get rid of the land line....if it can be spoofed?

Posted by: Paladin at May 28, 2012 09:32 AM (DIsMj)

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According to the Patterico story they used Skype, and a bunch of proxies, and the  911 recording kind of sounded like Skype was being used.

394 Those hills around Thurmont are beautiful this time of year.

Posted by: Retread at May 28, 2012 09:26 AM (joSBv)

Catoctin Mountain park is very nice assuming the JEF hasn't completely trashed the area.

395 406 Eisenhower used to like to go down and play at Augusta National. Something us peons never get to do. Posted by: Vic at May 28, 2012 09:32 AM (YdQQY) Yeah well, he managed Allied victory over Germany and a couple presidential elections following that, so, sometimes, shit does happen.

396 Within the last week I was trying to remember if he was still alive.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 28, 2012 09:34 AM (7Ph7Z)

He is..barely.

397

I never have trusted cops of any kind. I have seen and heard way too many instances of civilians getting shot, mauled, and killed by cops of one stripe or another, usually based on false or bad information.

SWAT teams have just made it worse. Consider that young former Marine that got gunned down in is own home and was left to bleed out while his wife cried for them to give medical aid.

Ace, I suggest you get a lawyer to send 'lawyer letters' to all cop shops in your area outlining the issue and what evil is being done. It probably still won't keep some jackass with a badge and a gun from trying to kill you, but it just might give you a small edge towards coming out alive.

398

The MSM? Most of these people will be forced to retire soon so I think they're already screwed.
We can only hope.

399 412 406 Eisenhower used to like to go down and play at Augusta National. Something us peons never get to do.
Posted by: Vic at May 28, 2012 09:32 AM (YdQQY)

Yeah well, he managed Allied victory over Germany and a couple presidential elections following that, so, sometimes, shit does happen.

That, and he didn't feel the need to throw it in everyone's faces about how "He Won". Mind you he didn't personally execute the world most dangerous terrorist with his bare hands, and he never "slow jammed the news" and he never was the "twoosh master".

Come to think of it Eisenhower doesn't measure up. \sarc

400 Don't worry. Not only is the MSM silent on this, so is the Drudge Report. He couldn't even be bothered to link to any of the Conservative Blogs on Brett Kimberlin day.

So I'm not surprised when the Left won't defend us, when the biggest and most influential "Conservative" sites *still* refuse to get involved wholeheartedly.

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judicial

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Or something like that