July 09, 2012
— Ace "I suspect that most people in Cincinnati would acknowledge that I've tried real hard, and we haven't gotten the Republicans to engage on a whole range of issues that, I wish had happened," Obama said in an interview with WLWT-TV in Cincinnati, Ohio.
He has a weak hand to play, so his appeals tend to sound, well, weak. Negotiating from a point of weakness and such. And essentially begging the country's indulgence and patience for his poor performance.
Is this working? Some good quotes of the day from Saturday. This one alarmed me some.
Obama runs even with, or slightly ahead of, Republican rival Mitt Romney in poll after poll. Campaign strategists debate the reasons.They might include ObamaÂ’s personal likability, gaps in RomneyÂ’s strategy or AmericansÂ’ grudging acceptance of a new normal in which millions of jobs are gone for good and no single person is responsible.
If high unemployment “was a killer, he’d already be dead,” said Republican pollster and consultant Mike McKenna. “The survey data tells you he’s not dead.”
The problem with that line is that Jimmy Carter wasn't "dead" at this point in 1980, according to polls -- and yet, actually, he was.
Larry Kudlow shares the belief that Obama's goose is already cooked.
[O]bamaÂ’s goose may already be cooked.The Joint Economic Committee (JEC), spearheaded by Texas congressman Kevin Brady, put out a report saying that the Obama recovery now ranks dead last in modern times. ThatÂ’s a real milestone in the post-WWII era. ItÂ’s ten out of ten for both jobs and economic growth. According to the Bureau of Economic Analysis, real GDP has expanded only 6.7 percent over the eleven-quarter recovery since the recession ended. The Reagan recovery at the same stage had increased by 17.6 percent. The Clinton recovery by 8.7 percent.
As for jobs, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that the number of private-sector jobs has grown by only 4.1 percent since the cyclical low point. ReaganÂ’s record was 10.7 percent.
So much for Obamanomics. DidnÂ’t work. Still isnÂ’t working. As the JEC put it, spending stimulus, housing bailouts, auto bailouts, financial bailouts, cash for clunkers, cash for caulkers, and $5 trillion in deficit spending left the Obama recovery dead last in modern times.
For Obama to win, it would require that people decide that they simply do not care that his presidency has overseen a stagnant economy that actually seems to be deterioriating. That hasn't been the case in the past, and I don't know it would be the case now.
Flashback: In 2004, Obama dismissed the Republicans' attempt to suggest the economy was improving. After all, the unemployment rate was 5.6% and we'd just added 310,000 jobs in a month. Far too soon to say we'd made progress, he urged.
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Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 09, 2012 09:21 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Joe Mama at July 09, 2012 09:22 AM (+4zf0)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 09, 2012 09:22 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 09, 2012 09:23 AM (4Wc+9)
I fully expect somebody to blame the Republicans !!
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at July 09, 2012 09:23 AM (e8kgV)
What a whiny little bitch. I STILL can't believe we elected this silly motherfucker.
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2012 09:23 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 09, 2012 09:23 AM (Y5I9o)
Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Lord Collingwood (mentioned in dispatches) at July 09, 2012 09:23 AM (m7blM)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2012 09:24 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Cicero at July 09, 2012 09:24 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: soothsayer at July 09, 2012 09:25 AM (9Q7Nu)
Rich, 68, a Grammy-nominated songwriter and glossy figure in Democratic and European royalty circles, renounced her American passport in November, according to her lawyer.
Her maiden name, Denise Eisenberg, appeared in the Federal Register on April 30 in a quarterly list of Americans who renounced their U.S. citizenship and permanent residents who handed in their green cards.
By dumping her U.S. passport, Rich likely will save tens of millions of dollars or more in U.S. taxes over the long haul, tax lawyers say.
Eric Holder ... call your old law office
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at July 09, 2012 09:25 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 09, 2012 09:26 AM (Ho2rs)
Let's not read too much into any one month.
Posted by: President Rain Man at July 09, 2012 09:26 AM (g9V/D)
Keep up the good work!
Posted by: Francis Fox Piven at July 09, 2012 09:26 AM (pUOpM)
Posted by: USMC8541 at July 09, 2012 09:26 AM (v3pYe)
Does this fall under part three: "To hear the lamentations of the women"?
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at July 09, 2012 09:26 AM (0tRzD)
Then he wants his helmet so he can go play outside.
And the other politicians, the ones who are actually leaders, had better not call him a retard or they will be punished.
Posted by: Kristopher at July 09, 2012 09:26 AM (0aV2C)
Posted by: Cicero at July 09, 2012 09:27 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 09, 2012 09:28 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: huerfano at July 09, 2012 09:28 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2012 09:28 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Capt. Francesco Schettino at July 09, 2012 09:29 AM (QKKT0)
Voice over of his "Tried real hard" interspersed with pictures of him golfing.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 09, 2012 09:29 AM (eC7WC)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at July 09, 2012 09:30 AM (ZhEoC)
Posted by: PJ at July 09, 2012 09:30 AM (DQHjw)
If you contribute to Obama and other Democrats, you don't have to pay the confiscatory exit tax in order to get a residence card after renouncing your citizenship.
That's only for Republican reptiles who shop for reasonable tax rates, not loyal Dems!
Posted by: Kristopher at July 09, 2012 09:30 AM (0aV2C)
Obama is just awesome in his ability to create campaign commercials for the opposition...
Voice over of his "Tried real hard" interspersed with pictures of him golfing.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 09, 2012 01:29 PM
Do Romney or the RNC have the guts to do this?
Posted by: rd at July 09, 2012 09:32 AM (9sUlj)
Posted by: The Guy Who Finished In Last Place at July 09, 2012 09:32 AM (g9V/D)
Posted by: Honey Tiberius Badger, drinker of mead at July 09, 2012 09:32 AM (GvYeG)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2012 09:33 AM (UOM48)
I expect O to use the same line soon.
Posted by: Shibumi at July 09, 2012 09:33 AM (z63Tr)
Didn't work in the 1930's either ...
Most of the economies in Europe had recovered from the 1929 crash by the mid 1930's ... except those that followed FDR's lead and printed unbacked money and took out loans they couldn't afford to support "stimulus" spending.
Posted by: Kristopher at July 09, 2012 09:34 AM (0aV2C)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at July 09, 2012 09:35 AM (g9V/D)
Posted by: nickless at July 09, 2012 09:35 AM (MMC8r)
Carter was up by 9 points at this point in the election cycle. If Romney has it even at this point, it means he has this thing pretty much sewn up unless he runs out of cash or has a major skeleton in the closet.
I'm willing to bet that there are a lot of young Dem women offering themselves as one night stands to Romney right now.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 09, 2012 09:35 AM (eC7WC)
Posted by: Beto at July 09, 2012 09:36 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 09, 2012 09:38 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Honey Tiberius Badger, drinker of mead at July 09, 2012 01:32 PM (GvYeG)
[Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp] Nope.
[What?]
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 09, 2012 09:38 AM (RD7QR)
*ahem* I think you may be forgetting someone and a very effective "likability" and "good intentions" strategy that produced win after win in Americas worst economy ever.
Posted by: FDR at July 09, 2012 09:38 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 09, 2012 09:39 AM (UH0ly)
Posted by: Ben Smith at July 09, 2012 09:39 AM (4cRnj)
Posted by: BlackOrchidPinesForDagny at July 09, 2012 09:39 AM (J6kXj)
Posted by: t-bird at July 09, 2012 09:39 AM (FcR7P)
Stimulus funds for weatherizing poorly insulated and built homes.
Posted by: Beto at July 09, 2012 09:39 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 09, 2012 09:39 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 09, 2012 09:40 AM (1Jaio)
Cash subsidies for making your home more efficient. Double pane windows, weather sealing, extra insulation, and the like.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at July 09, 2012 09:40 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Reggie Love at July 09, 2012 09:40 AM (g9V/D)
Posted by: Jaynie59 at July 09, 2012 09:40 AM (4zKCA)
Posted by: Ben Smith at July 09, 2012 01:39 PM (4cRnj)
And racistly racist.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 09, 2012 09:40 AM (UH0ly)
Posted by: BlackOrchidPinesForDagny at July 09, 2012 09:40 AM (J6kXj)
Posted by: nickless at July 09, 2012 09:41 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 09, 2012 09:41 AM (05RcU)
I tried real hard
Well, good for you! However, the measure of keeping your job --- as those of us who have held real jobs know --- is what did you accomplish?
You sound like my kids at their most pathetic, Preznint It's Not Fair. No re-election for you!!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at July 09, 2012 09:41 AM (UzjcV)
Posted by: amos at July 09, 2012 09:41 AM (eXWDr)
Ahhh, I see. So "cash for caulkers" was basically "Look, just help me make it look like green jobs are really booming!"
Thanks for the explanations, all!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 09, 2012 09:42 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: soothsayer at July 09, 2012 09:42 AM (9Q7Nu)
Posted by: Ben Smith at July 09, 2012 09:42 AM (4cRnj)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at July 09, 2012 09:42 AM (g9V/D)
I should get an A for effort and one of them Special Olympics medals just for showing up.
Posted by: Obama's Left Nut at July 09, 2012 09:43 AM (gWd6X)
I tried real hard! It ain't the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!
Posted by: Barack "Fredo" Obama at July 09, 2012 09:43 AM (UH0ly)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 09, 2012 09:44 AM (05RcU)
One interesting point is that a bit of the Reagan recovery (on the back-end into the 2nd term) could be attributed to US-instigated currency manipulation. I'm thinking here of the Fall 1985 Plaza Accords that caused the Japanese Yen to practically treble in value in almost no time flat (lending plenty of support to the contention that the Japanese had themselves been the currency manipulators).
Nowadays the US Treasury seems to be doing all it can to bring down the dollar's value, hoping against hope that exports will help push the needle of US growth and Dear Leader's reelection chances. And yet... and yet... we're still forced to embrace the low-growth suckitude.
Are the conclusions so difficult to draw from this compare/contrast?
Posted by: RamonAllones at July 09, 2012 09:45 AM (3lLli)
Thanks for the explanations, all!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 09, 2012 01:42 PM (4df7R)
The really slick trick by O'Barry was having the taxpayer by buy a giant portion of GM's production in fleet sales to then say...Look, My stimulus program is working!
Posted by: Beto at July 09, 2012 09:46 AM (BAnPT)
Obama sounds like a college freshman who coasted through high school with straight A's on every assignment, who gets her first college essay back from her English 101 professor with a big, red F in the corner.
"But... but... I've NEVER gotten an F!"
"Your facts were illusory at best, your spelling and grammar were awful, your arguments conflicted with your conclusion, your thesis statement was a wandering mess, and you copy/pasted at least half of the actual text directly from Wikipedia without even bothering to change the formatting to hide your plagiarism."
"But.... but I tried REAL HARD!"
"The correct term is you tried REALLY hard. And regardless of how hard you did or did not TRY, you still failed to PRODUCE anything worthwhile. Maybe you should consider another major. I hear macrame is nice."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 09, 2012 09:46 AM (4df7R)
WTF? Sure, if you believe a mafioso is a kind and gentle sort. But then one might correctly infer you're an imbecile.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 09, 2012 09:46 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Kal Penn at July 09, 2012 09:47 AM (tqwMN)
Posted by: WW2 Italy at July 09, 2012 09:47 AM (05RcU)
Me: Well isn't that Speeeecial. Here's your trophy and this certificate for funemploment.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 09, 2012 09:48 AM (tf9Ne)
One thing you have to give the MFM: they do expend time and effort to do research when they want to, even if their chosen targets are usually Repubs or anyone who dares oppose Lord Barack. Bloggers, on the other hand, tend to link to each other, patting themselves on the back for saying snarky things and engaging in anal-ysis.
When I see Erick Ericson pontificating about How it Oughtta Be, or Poppin' Fresh chuckling fatly about the day's "Obamateurism," I want to vomit. This is the stuff that means nothing. That's doubly true when, "in fairness," they let his real felonies and impeachable crimes slide.
Between these eunuchs and those in Congress -- I'm talkin' about you, Bitch McConnell and Weepy Boner -- Romney doesn't stand a chance. What the unwashed masses (a/k/a the 52%) see is endless hymns of praise for Bark Obama from the media, no calls for accountability, and only the weakest hints of opposition.
I'd love to see that change, somehow. But realism tells me it ain't gonna happen, and we'll be having at least four more years of the same shit.
Posted by: the Romney bus is honkin' for Dagny at July 09, 2012 09:48 AM (MQc8e)
Posted by: John Mason at July 09, 2012 09:49 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Fritz at July 09, 2012 09:50 AM (/ZZCn)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 09, 2012 09:50 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Jack Dawson at July 09, 2012 09:50 AM (4df7R)
A multistate identity theft scam that claims President Barack Obama will pay your utility bills appears to have widened.
According to MSNBC.com, more than 2,000 customers in Tampa, Fla., fell for the fake offer last week.
The scheme was first reported in May, when Dallas-based Atmos Energy warned its 3 million customers in 12 states that scammers had been asking for Social Security numbers to enroll in the faux federal program. According to the pitch—distributed via email, Facebook, text message, phone and, in some cases, door-to-door sales—the government would pay a month of energy costs through credits offered by the Obama administration.Peggy Joseph hit the hardest!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 09, 2012 09:51 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 09, 2012 01:50 PM (05RcU)
Ah-hah! Now I see. I was wondering if you'd intended to launch into an epic screed about our dumbfuck president and had hit "Post" by accident. It happens to the best of us.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 09, 2012 09:51 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Chicago Voter at July 09, 2012 09:52 AM (qZb8X)
A multistate identity theft scam that claims President Barack Obama will pay your utility bills appears to have widened.
I do not understand how people would be stupid enough to fall for scams like this. Have they never heard the old adage, "If it's too good to be true, it probably isn't?"
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 09, 2012 09:52 AM (4df7R)
Hillary is going to be hard to beat in this election.
Posted by: jwest at July 09, 2012 01:46 PM
That is what everyone said in 2007 and 2008.
Posted by: rd at July 09, 2012 09:53 AM (9sUlj)
Posted by: Chicago Voter at July 09, 2012 09:53 AM (qZb8X)
I tried real hard to steamroll those durn Republicans but they wouldn't lay still.
Posted by: Presidebt Taxalot at July 09, 2012 09:54 AM (wAQA5)
Posted by: toby928© at July 09, 2012 09:54 AM (evdj2)
The participation trophies stop by the time the kids are 8. Maybe Obama didn't get the memo.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at July 09, 2012 09:55 AM (dcoFe)
Air filtration. Water filtration. Geiger counter!
G-ddamn underground monsters.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 09, 2012 09:57 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: jwest at July 09, 2012 01:46 PM
That is what everyone said in 2007 and 2008.
Posted by: rd at July 09, 2012 01:53 PM (9sUlj)
She didnÂ’t have a 65% approval rating back then and was going up against the first black presidential candidate who was clean and articulate. When Obama drops out, it will be played as him doing the selfless, heroic thing by the left and the media. To gin up the black vote, they will blame everything on the racism of the Tea Party and bible-thumping toothless hicks.
Hillary will step in as the next historic election “first”. Dems will go crazy and it will be a tough fight.
Posted by: jwest at July 09, 2012 09:59 AM (ZDsRL)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at July 09, 2012 09:59 AM (g9V/D)
Posted by: Chicago Voter at July 09, 2012 10:03 AM (qZb8X)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2012 10:09 AM (T9VmS)
Posted by: Politifact at July 09, 2012 10:11 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: The Producers of Highlander II at July 09, 2012 02:02 PM (MMC8r)
Liars. You farted it out while you were all high on Special K and wood alcohol. Admit it.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 09, 2012 10:11 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Spike at July 09, 2012 10:11 AM (I4NNt)
>>22The Mighty Republicans!! Who'd have thunk that Republicans, controlling only one-half of one-third of the government (and that only for the last year or so) would be so monolithically strong that they would thwart Obama's entire agenda... even though he had all of congress for his first two years and he tried hard.<<
That's nothing - here in California the five Republicans in the legislature are blamed for fucking up the state's finances. When they're not sitting rocking in a corner, moaning, in the fetal position, that is.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 09, 2012 10:19 AM (zmFfQ)
>>102A multistate identity theft scam that claims President Barack Obama will pay your utility bills appears to have widened.
I do not understand how people would be stupid enough to fall for scams like this. Have they never heard the old adage, "If it's too good to be true, it probably isn't?"<<
What?? What are you saying?
Posted by: Peggy Joseph at July 09, 2012 10:20 AM (zmFfQ)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 09, 2012 10:22 AM (iAUf+)
>>116Hillary - is there a theme to her foreign policy?<<
I see you are not familiar with stochastic diplomacy.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 09, 2012 10:23 AM (zmFfQ)
46 I think Carter was ahead at this point"
Carter was up by 9 points at this point in the election cycle. If Romney has it even at this point, it means he has this thing pretty much sewn up unless he runs out of cash or has a major skeleton in the closet.
An actual skeleton of a minor in Romney's closet might be a problem. Otherwise, Obama is toast. Everything Obama says is right out of "The Big Book of Quotes for Losers". The President of the United States, X. Cuses O'Blamer, is actually looking for the pity vote. Pathetic. I'm not kidding.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 09, 2012 10:24 AM (VLifP)
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at July 09, 2012 10:27 AM (zpqa2)
Romney isn't even the nominee yet. Most independents will start making up their minds about him as soon as he is 'official.' The rest is just preamble.
Posted by: LASue at July 09, 2012 10:28 AM (pWeX5)
Posted by: DriveBy at July 09, 2012 10:30 AM (SHgGO)
Posted by: DaveinNC at July 09, 2012 10:46 AM (boNGU)
Posted by: JPS at July 09, 2012 10:50 AM (tn14L)
The first, and most ideal, is the Carter one, where voters are just waiting until November so they can get rid of this bozo for ANYBODY else, but aren't passionate about it. Just grimly, quietly determined. If asked, they might say "oh yeah, sure, I'm not a racist, he's great," but they'll pull that lever for Romney even though they aren't hot on the guy.
The other, and most likely I fear, is that people really are just going to vote for Obama again because he's black and because Romney is white and Republican and Mormon and therefore scary.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 09, 2012 10:51 AM (r4wIV)
I don't see much that indicates it has gotten any more sane. YOu can't really use 2010 as an example, because people were so pissed about the health insurance bill, TARP bailouts, and stimulus. They wanted to punish congress, and kick incumbents out. That doesn't necessarily reflect on the president.
President Obama seems to have successfully mesmerized people into blaming Bush for the economy. If he can pull that off, then the economy is irrelevant to the election.
Think about that a while.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 09, 2012 10:54 AM (r4wIV)
Unify the NATO policy, dip shit. No crying ignorance after his '08 Berlin campaign speech. The US/NATO can't successfully war with Iran, even economically, so long as major nations including NATO members still trade with them, proving Obama the international SCOAMF.
"German firms still ship dual-use goods to Iran"
Iranian Threat: 'Jerusalem Post’ secures list of companies selling goods, including giant specializing in heavy tunneling equipment, despite sanctions. BERLIN – Germany’s multi-billion euro bilateral trade relationship with Iran continues unabated. By BENJAMIN WEINTHAL, MAXIMILIAN KIEWEL
07/09/2012
Posted by: lost in translation at July 09, 2012 11:15 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: It's Not Fair at July 09, 2012 11:52 AM (mka2b)
I smoke two joints in the morning,
I smoke two joints at night.
I smoke two joints in the afternoon,
It makes me feel all right.
I smoke two joints in time of peace,
And two in time of war.
I smoke two joints before I smoke two joints,
And then I smoke two more. I would've saved the economy, but I smoked two joints instead...
Posted by: Sir Choom a lot at July 09, 2012 12:37 PM (cBYCG)
Posted by: Tim the Enchanter at July 09, 2012 12:39 PM (izA2D)
There is a large built-in undercurrent of voter sentiment away from Obama; the head-to-heads are useless right now. Look at indicators, like today's "change for the bad" poll until the end of summer or, at the least, until after the Olympics. It's all in flux until the barrage hits.
That said, I do wonder if Romney's outpreform in MI is directly due to his dad's legacy, or an indirect effect whereby it's socially acceptable to support a Romney. NB: MI decoupled and shifted right after WI...
Posted by: Uriah Heep at July 09, 2012 01:57 PM (Wa+Fw)
Posted by: The Amerika That Gives Out Trophies For Trying Hard at July 09, 2012 02:54 PM (bkd6k)
Posted by: steevy at July 09, 2012 03:41 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: Obama of the Poetic Sensibility at July 09, 2012 05:42 PM (Ub+ky)
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Posted by: rd at July 09, 2012 09:20 AM (9sUlj)