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July 30, 2012

Obama Quietly Revises Growth Projections... Downwards
— Ace

Shhhh. We just have a presidential election coming up. We wouldn't want the media broadcasting state secrets about the most relevant and pressing problem we face at the moment.

In its latest update, ObamaÂ’s Office of Management and Budget slashed its GDP forecast for 2012, to 2.3% from 2.7%, and for 2013, to 2.7% from 3.0%. Pretty tepid growth.

In the near-term, where we have the greatest knowledge (still sketchy, but the greatest knowledge, since we can just ballpark guess it will be something like current situations), he revises his forecasts downward.

But then, two to five years from now, when our knowledge becomes almost nonexistent, he confidently projects a big bouncing baby boy boomtime recovery, weighing in at a respectable 4.1% in hazy 2015.

Okay. Sure.

How does the White House's "projections" match up against organizations not directly involved in seeking the reelection of their boss?

The correlation is poor.

[T]he IMF recently put out its extended forecast for the U.S economy, and its sees markedly slower growth than the White House: 2.0% in 2012, 2.3% in 2013, 2.8% in 2014, 3.3% in 2015, 3.4% in 2016, and 3.3% in 2017. In total, the White House sees the U.S. economy generating about $1.5 trillion more in real GDP growth during the next six years than the IMF does.
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And certainly there are mainstream economists out there more gloomy than the IMF. The economic team at JPMorgan, for instance, sees the economy growing at just 1.9% this year and next.

And, as Pethokoukis points out, those projections are all already biased to the optimistic side of things, assuming that this is in fact a real but weak "recovery" which will continue for a long time, rather than, say, bouncing along the bottom in a protracted depression.

Posted by: Ace at 12:46 PM | Comments (207)
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1 Remember, the cost of Obamacare was based on 4-5% GDP every year. We'll be lucky to see half that.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 30, 2012 12:48 PM (9Q7Nu)

2 Wheeeeeeeee!

Posted by: GDP Predictions at July 30, 2012 12:48 PM (QKKT0)

3 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2012 12:49 PM (6o4Fb)

4 Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?

Posted by: The Economy at July 30, 2012 12:49 PM (DS2Ry)

5 Did the Treasury Department get the extended warranty on the printers?

Posted by: Cicero at July 30, 2012 12:49 PM (QKKT0)

6 The only projection I care about is projection of where he will live in Feb. after we evict his sorry ass from the White House.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 30, 2012 12:50 PM (j1gX1)

7 Barky has spoken, and dogs everywhere are scared they might be tonight's dinner.

Posted by: Killerdog at July 30, 2012 12:50 PM (oMiXW)

8 There will be no growth until folks know who is going to be in the WH for the next four years. If you run a business, you need facts to use in forecasting your costs. This is the one bright spot of CJ Roberts reversing himself on the ACA, it made all those businesses who were waiting for the law to go down to now wait for the November elections to see how the ACA will be affected.

Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at July 30, 2012 12:50 PM (kXoT0)

9 They're like slip and fall hucksters. Hi Ace.

Posted by: dogfish at July 30, 2012 12:51 PM (N2yhW)

10 Gosh, this is just too numbery. Who needs to know this stuff anyway?

Posted by: NYT op-ed writer with a PhD in polisci at July 30, 2012 12:51 PM (T0NGe)

11 BRO GOTTA GO

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 30, 2012 12:51 PM (8sCoq)

12 [Puff puff puff] Christ ace, give a fat guy a chance to keep up!

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 30, 2012 12:51 PM (RD7QR)

13 Who needs money when your in Utopia?

Posted by: Buffoon at July 30, 2012 12:51 PM (H3guA)

14 Now we seriously need to lay some guidance for young Mittens before the horse leaves the Temple.

Posted by: Clemenza at July 30, 2012 12:52 PM (jlQ7t)

15 I'm surprised it wasn't 2.0% for 2012 and 111eleventybillion000% for 2013 and beyond!

Posted by: AmishDude at July 30, 2012 12:52 PM (T0NGe)

16 The hold McCain (You have nothing to fear...) and more specifically the GOP establishment (You know Palin really isn't ready for the Vice Presidency) responsible along with a lapdog media for foisting this Marxist piece of shit on America.

We are never going to fully recover!

Posted by: General Woundwort at July 30, 2012 12:52 PM (06lNq)

17 Meh...I'm not concerned...Mommy lets me stay in her basement for free.

Posted by: Raykon at July 30, 2012 12:52 PM (AtJ1Z)

18 Ignore the cold salt water lapping around your ankles and vote to keep Captain smith as captain of the Titanic.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Monday afternoon at July 30, 2012 12:52 PM (hLRSq)

19 I have just run the numbers through a complex algorithm and I can state with 99.9% assurance that Barack Obama is completely full of shit.

The .01% is to account for the fact none of this actually exists and we are all just a hologram on some alien kid's tablet.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at July 30, 2012 12:52 PM (hlUJY)

20 Say, when was the last time the Creased Pants one had a good day? That OBL was quite a while ago wasn't it? Can someone please give him some good news.

Posted by: SH at July 30, 2012 12:52 PM (gmeXX)

21 The only accurate projection this White House has had is psychological projection.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 30, 2012 12:52 PM (T0NGe)

22 Posted by: Nevergiveup

I'm feeling comfortable it won't be Texas. We have Bushtonite here.

Posted by: dogfish at July 30, 2012 12:52 PM (N2yhW)

23 Flaccidating.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 30, 2012 12:53 PM (ZAYlH)

24 Unexpected. Again.

Posted by: Penfold at July 30, 2012 12:53 PM (1PeEC)

25 JEF should vote for Mitt. And make it unanimous.

Posted by: CheshireLion at July 30, 2012 12:53 PM (nF7yw)

I don't believe those IMF predictions either.

They have a vested interest in lying about how bad things really are.

Posted by: wheatie at July 30, 2012 12:54 PM (mtRB0)

I think what we're seeing is....well....pretty much what we're seeing.

Damn! I could be a CNN economic consultant.

Posted by: Soona at July 30, 2012 12:54 PM (S0jAR)

28 next month's Newsweek: Can Mitt Romney Be Trusted With Nukes? From Bullying Young Gays in Prep School to Pushing "the Button"

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 30, 2012 12:55 PM (9Q7Nu)

29 >The only projection I care about is projection of where he will live in Feb. after we evict his sorry ass from the White House.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 30, 2012 04:50 PM (j1gX1)

yesterday I was day-dreaming about Obama being impeached, and I was the Chief Justice. After he lost the vote, I declared him to be no longer President and stripped of all official powers. Then I ordered the US Marshal's Service to evict him and his family from the White House by close of business, same day. Clothes, personal items, everything.

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 30, 2012 12:55 PM (8sCoq)

30 We have to protect our phoney baloney jobs here, gentlemen! We must do something about this immediately! Immediately! Immediately! Harrumph! Harrumph! Harrumph!

Posted by: Barky Lepetomaine at July 30, 2012 12:55 PM (QKKT0)

31 2.3%?

Ha.

Posted by: nickless at July 30, 2012 12:55 PM (MMC8r)

32 Four more years of da Zero and 2% growth will look like a fucking boom.

Posted by: maddogg at July 30, 2012 12:56 PM (OlN4e)

33 2.3%?

Ha.

Would you believe...0.23%?

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at July 30, 2012 12:57 PM (T0NGe)

34 ITA v JPN in girl volleyball

shit just got real

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 30, 2012 12:57 PM (8sCoq)

35 Keep in mind that these 2% growth numbers are predicated on continued 8-10% of GDP deficit spending. As soon as the deficit spending gets pared back even by as little as $100 billion, those estimates drop by a half percent.

If Romney comes in and slashes the hell out of the job killing regulations, there's a chance we can grow out of the deficits. With gradual entitlement reform, of course. That must be done.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 30, 2012 12:58 PM (ccXZP)

Predictions that assume conditions will return to the norm are often correct, because things often return to the norm. That's what makes it the norm.

Unless conditions aren't normal, in which case, toss the historical norms. Which is another way of saying nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 30, 2012 12:58 PM (TOk1P)

Shut up Paul.

Posted by: The Economy at July 30, 2012 12:59 PM (DS2Ry)

38 We just need to make a rap song about high unemployment rate for African-Americans!!

I'm sure we'll get dozens of votes! Rippity-rap! It's where it's at!!

I have people skills and know how to communicate authentically!

Vote for Romney, he saved the Olympics.
Not like the Dems who tweet their dick-pics!
Yaaay, rap! Rippity-dap!

Posted by: Rapping Republican at July 30, 2012 01:00 PM (ZPrif)

We just updated the numbers. People let me tell ya. Happy days are here again!

They don't get us!!!

Posted by: Biden at July 30, 2012 01:00 PM (iYvMQ)

40 My favorite people are Keynsians.

Every time the stimulus is "not enough", they squeal: "We have formulas! This is what we predicted!"

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at July 30, 2012 01:00 PM (xAtAj)

41 LOL, NBC got Twitter to block a brit who has been banging on NBC over its poor coverage in USA. Drudge has the links -- and the tweets that got him banned.

Posted by: USA at July 30, 2012 01:00 PM (6Cjut)

42 I'd say 1.9% is optimistic.
And Harrumph!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 30, 2012 01:00 PM (r4wIV)

43 Since no one trusts the MSM anymore I think we have finally reached the tipping point where people are believing the opposite of whatever the MSM tells them.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at July 30, 2012 01:01 PM (hlUJY)

44 our economy has no reason or propellant to accelerate -- real or artificial. as we mentioned here a few weeks ago, the economy already got it's shot of adrenalin in 2009. it's already worn off and that trick will only work now with rapidly diminishing returns

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 30, 2012 01:01 PM (9Q7Nu)

45 If brains were a thermonuclear device, Krugman couldn't blow a booger out of his nose. I can't believe they let that clown write a column. He should be shoveling shit out of a barn somewhere.

Posted by: maddogg at July 30, 2012 01:01 PM (OlN4e)

46 The bro, the ho and their kids GOTTA GO!!!!!

Posted by: © Sponge at July 30, 2012 01:02 PM (UK9cE)

47 And Harrumph!

You watch your ass.

Posted by: Barky Lepetomaine at July 30, 2012 01:02 PM (QKKT0)

48 We've seen the economy improve time and time again.

Posted by: Grandma Rictus Botoxica at July 30, 2012 01:03 PM (iYvMQ)

49 I've fallen and I can't get up!

Posted by: The Economy at July 30, 2012 01:03 PM (QKKT0)

50 You'll miss me when I'm gone.

Posted by: Anal fissures at July 30, 2012 01:04 PM (KXm42)

Who cares? Obama is fur realzies related to the first African-American slave!!!!!!

What are the odds?

Of course, that also means that one of his ancestors was likely a slave-owner, but WTH cares about that?.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at July 30, 2012 01:04 PM (P6H+d)

52 I'll be back in a few quarters. I've gotta go take a Schumer.

Posted by: The Economy at July 30, 2012 01:05 PM (wnif0)

53 The deuce you say!

Posted by: Tonic Dog at July 30, 2012 01:05 PM (X/+QT)

47If brains were a thermonuclear device, Krugman couldn't blow a booger out of his nose. I can't believe they let that clown write a column. He should be shoveling shit out of a barn somewhere.

Posted by: maddogg at July 30, 2012 05:01 PM (OlN4e)

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I doubt he could even do *that* job, maddogg.

He would have to be smart enough to recognize which door was...'out'.

So he'd probably just shovel it into a pile, in another part of the barn.

Posted by: wheatie at July 30, 2012 01:05 PM (mtRB0)

55 >LOL, NBC got Twitter to block a brit who has been banging on NBC over its poor coverage in USA. Drudge has the links -- and the tweets that got him banned.

on twitter #NBCFail

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 30, 2012 01:05 PM (8sCoq)

56 LOL, NBC got Twitter to block a brit who has been banging on NBC over its poor coverage in USA. Drudge has the links -- and the tweets that got him banned.

Posted by: USA at July 30, 2012 05:00 PM (6Cjut)

If athletes twitter their results, that's a banning! If you put up pics of the event, that's a banning! Put up a pic with you and Costas, oh you better believe that's a banning!

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at July 30, 2012 01:05 PM (ZhEoC)

57 Can I get a comment in before the next thread goes up....

Posted by: DangerGirl at July 30, 2012 01:05 PM (TLokJ)

58 I'm wondering how valid the growth factors due to gummint spending are when debt => GDP. I suspect that the more the gummint spends, the more the private sector's sphincter puckers and nothing comes out.

Posted by: nickless at July 30, 2012 01:06 PM (MMC8r)

59 Hopefully the projections will be like Michelle's pushups and not go all the way down.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 30, 2012 01:06 PM (ZAYlH)

60 Does this mean he (they) won't get to qualify the shitty numbers with the obligatory "unexpectedly"? He's taking bullets out of his own crap gun.

Posted by: Bad Siter Zoot at July 30, 2012 01:06 PM (Fi9SZ)

61 63...I went down...and look where it got me!!!

Posted by: Monica at July 30, 2012 01:07 PM (AtJ1Z)

62 yesterday I was day-dreaming about Obama being impeached, and I was the Chief Justice. After he lost the vote, I declared him to be no longer President and stripped of all official powers. Then I ordered the US Marshal's Service to evict him and his family from the White House by close of business, same day. Clothes, personal items, everything. Posted by: Jones in CO at July 30, 2012 04:55 PM (8sCoq) I believe that is called a "Wet Dream"?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 30, 2012 01:07 PM (j1gX1)

63 brb, insertin myself in all the presidents' biographies

Posted by: lolobama at July 30, 2012 01:07 PM (9Q7Nu)

64 Krugman is unqualified to shovel shit. He can not tell the difference between the shovel and the shit.

Shovels? Hell, use spoons. You create more jobs that way.

Posted by: Paul Krugman, NYT In-House Economic Genius at July 30, 2012 01:08 PM (QKKT0)

65 Costas is TV death.

The announcers for the womens gymnastics have been absolutely terrible BTW. Repellently bad.

Posted by: eleven at July 30, 2012 01:09 PM (KXm42)

66 Is Ace Monty? are all thr cobloggers just sockpuppets of Acr and we are living in his extended personality disorder.

Posted by: Jean at July 30, 2012 01:09 PM (UIE9v)

67 I've fallen and I can't get up!Posted by: The Economy

At some point, you've been upright too much.
FORE!

Posted by: Pres. O'Didnt Build Dat [/i] [/b] at July 30, 2012 01:09 PM (5FvTK)

68 Also I got a half-Mexican friend, together we're gonna make some fusion rap-Mariachi music set to the tune of La Cucaracha.

Culturally Authentic Outreach!!!

Posted by: Rapping Republican at July 30, 2012 01:09 PM (ZPrif)

69 brb, listenin to Valerie Jarrett's advice

Posted by: lolobama at July 30, 2012 01:09 PM (9Q7Nu)

70 Can I get a comment in before the next thread goes up....

Posted by: DangerGirl at July 30, 2012 05:05 PM (TLokJ)

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I'm looking foward to your succinct prose.

Posted by: Soona at July 30, 2012 01:09 PM (S0jAR)

71 Remember when these fucking jokers were predicting 4% growth thanks to Captain LawSchool's deft hand at the economic tiller?

Posted by: Waterhouse at July 30, 2012 01:09 PM (tY0PT)

72 he confidently projects a big bouncing baby boy boomtime recovery, weighing in at a respectable 4.1% in hazy 2015. Even Obama thinks President Romney will work a miracle.

Posted by: toby928© at July 30, 2012 01:10 PM (QupBk)

73 I kinda miss "unexpectedly" showing up in 'news' articles every day. That was a good run.

I doubt it will make a comeback. Therefore, I predict near-complete silence on the economy from the MSM.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at July 30, 2012 01:10 PM (X/+QT)

74 OT: That NBC....crackerjack outfit. Seen on twitter:

The Today show interviewed a random tourist and didn't even realize it was.....Evander Holyfield.

http://tinyurl.com/bmxr2b8

Posted by: Tami at July 30, 2012 01:10 PM (X6akg)

75 As bad as that is it gets worse when you consider that over 40% of that is federal and state spending.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2012 01:10 PM (YdQQY)

76 Matt Lauer: Â“Madagascar, a location indelibly associated with a couple of recent animated movies...Â”

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 30, 2012 01:10 PM (ZAYlH)

77 Assuming we get a R Senate- all Mitt has to do to make the economy boom is repeal Obamacare repeal Dodd Frank undo a lot of the silly crap executive ordered by Obama unleash the oil and nuclear industry BAM instant roaring economy

Posted by: naturalfake at July 30, 2012 01:10 PM (54vf8)

78

Lowered expectations!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xLsRI7-hBs

Posted by: dan-O at July 30, 2012 01:10 PM (sWycd)

My speech about "You Didn't Build That" didn't go over very well.

So I guess I better save my speech about..."You Don't Own That"...until after I am re-elected.

Posted by: Emperor Barky the 1st... at July 30, 2012 01:11 PM (mtRB0)

80 A federal court in Washington, DC, held today that political appointees appointed by President Obama did interfere with the Department of JusticeÂ’s prosecution of the New Black Panther Party. FoxNews has the story.

Posted by: USA at July 30, 2012 01:11 PM (6Cjut)

81 But then, two to five years from now Even he is projecting a Romney win.

Posted by: t-bird at July 30, 2012 01:11 PM (FcR7P)

82 brb, talkin about Michelle doin push ups on Ellen Degeneres

Posted by: lolobama at July 30, 2012 01:11 PM (9Q7Nu)

83 Do you guys remember when, just after the 08 election, lefties started screaming that Obama should take office immediately instead of waiting till inauguration day? Or that ridiculous "I Pledge" video? Worthless fuckers, all of them. I'd wish for them to all die of embarrassment, but few if any of them have any shame to begin with.

Posted by: Weew at July 30, 2012 01:12 PM (53Nsb)

84 Even in this excerpt of whoeveritis who wrote the first part, they are careful to put the larger number second, which might indicate to the Obama-level intelligence that things are still growing. The bias is so baked in the cake, it's turned to marzipan.

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 30, 2012 01:12 PM (I2LwF)

85 Is Ace Monty? are all thr cobloggers just sockpuppets of Acr and we are living in his extended personality disorder.

I am Ace's latent heterosexuality.

Posted by: nickless at July 30, 2012 01:13 PM (MMC8r)

86 A federal court in Washington, DC, held today that political appointees appointed by President Obama did interfere with the Department of JusticeÂ’s prosecution of the New Black Panther Party.

Sweet sweet obstruction of justice. Tasty.

Posted by: @PurpAv at July 30, 2012 01:14 PM (To5Fz)

87 In its latest update, ObamaÂ’s Office of Management and Budget slashed its GDP forecast for 2012, to 2.3% from 2.7%, and for 2013, to 2.7% from 3.0%. Pretty tepid growth.

It still seems pretty optimistic.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 30, 2012 01:14 PM (1Jaio)

88 The downward growth is a signal that the economy is actually improving, much like colder temperatures are a harbinger of global warming.

Posted by: The MFM/ White House at July 30, 2012 01:15 PM (z63Tr)

89 o/t: Recall that I said Hellor was no win for us in the gun control debate. Scalia reiterates that saying legislation is possible.

So first Roberts sold us out, now Scalia.

http://is.gd/mQFgEr

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2012 01:15 PM (YdQQY)

90 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 30, 2012 01:15 PM (8y9MW)

91 O/T: New VRA absurdity up at my place.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 30, 2012 01:15 PM (8y9MW)

92 The Olympic Flame went out yesterday as it was being moved.

Posted by: USA at July 30, 2012 01:15 PM (6Cjut)

93 Watching the local OKC news. The burning has begun.

Posted by: Soona at July 30, 2012 01:15 PM (S0jAR)

94 See? Barry's plan worked

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 30, 2012 01:16 PM (1Jaio)

95 Well, if Obama is saying 2.3% for 12' that means we finish out the year with a negative quarter and head into 13' with a cranking depression on our hands.

Posted by: @PurpAv at July 30, 2012 01:16 PM (To5Fz)

Ace.

Turn the sun lamp off.

Put the crack pipe down.

Posted by: garrett at July 30, 2012 01:16 PM (28BGh)

97 Seemingly by accident, NBC has managed to cover quite a lot of the boxing

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 30, 2012 01:16 PM (8sCoq)

98 Pull my finger.

Posted by: the invisible hand at July 30, 2012 01:17 PM (QupBk)

99 Costas is still the best interviewer in sports, bar none. His show on MLB is incredible.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 30, 2012 01:17 PM (r4wIV)

100 >>>The Olympic Flame went out yesterday as it was being moved. Where was he going?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 30, 2012 01:17 PM (ZAYlH)

101 It didn't go out, it was just resting.

Posted by: @PurpAv at July 30, 2012 01:18 PM (To5Fz)

102

>>Where was he going?

Fire Island.

Posted by: garrett at July 30, 2012 01:18 PM (28BGh)

103

87A federal court in Washington, DC, held today that political appointees appointed by President Obama did interfere with the Department of JusticeÂ’s prosecution of the New Black Panther Party.

Posted by: USA at July 30, 2012 05:11 PM (6Cjut)

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Which should be tied to Holder's attempts to stop Voting Fraud around the country.

Voter Intimidation is in the same category of.....Vote Tampering.

Posted by: wheatie at July 30, 2012 01:19 PM (mtRB0)

104 Oh wow the "I pledge" videos. Man... those were so embarrassing to watch, I felt like a father watching his son blow it in the first round of the spelling bee by screaming out curse words. Except that would be more entertaining. Everyone who put one of those out should be contacted and interviewed about Obama now.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 30, 2012 01:19 PM (r4wIV)

105 "At some point, you've made enough money."

Who knew that point was in 2007?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 30, 2012 01:20 PM (8y9MW)

106 #78

Remember when these fucking jokers were predicting 4% growth thanks to Captain LawSchool's deft hand at the economic tiller?

And 6.5% unemployment this year!

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 30, 2012 01:20 PM (L7hol)

107 Watching the local OKC news. The burning has begun.

As in wildfires, or some other kind of burning?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 30, 2012 01:21 PM (8y9MW)

108 the best sports interviewer is like being the best bathtub filler I can't think of anything less interesting than what an athlete, especially a pro, has to say about anything.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 30, 2012 01:21 PM (9Q7Nu)

109 OT This philly.com article is pretty damning about teachers cheating in PA schools on the achievement tests:

After authorities imposed unprecedented security measures on the 2012 statewide exams, test scores tumbled across Pennsylvania, The Inquirer has learned.

At some schools, Pennsylvania Secretary of Education Ronald Tomalis said, the drops are "noticeable" - 25 percent or more.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/cepbr6z

Hmmmm, 25% is noticeable huh? I wonder how much it takes to get to 'unprecedented'.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 30, 2012 01:21 PM (ccXZP)

110 Everyone who put one of those out should be contacted and interviewed about Obama now.Posted by:Christopher Taylor

I'd bet every cent I have the majority of them are still under the influence of the Flavor Aide. You don't go full-cult like that and then reflect soberly after a few years.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 30, 2012 01:22 PM (5FvTK)

111

Enough talking about him like a dog.

Someone needs to rub his nose in this.

Posted by: garrett at July 30, 2012 01:22 PM (28BGh)

112 You telling lies thinking I can't see
You don't cry cos you're laughing at me
I'm down (I'm really down)
I'm down (Down on the ground)
I'm down (I'm really down)
How can you laugh when you know I'm down
(How can you laugh) When you know I'm down

Posted by: the economist Sir Paul at July 30, 2012 01:22 PM (5UU+7)

113 Someone needs to get Bob a new calendar, because his constantly tells him its 1957..........

This is the problem with baseball in general. Cowherd is absolutely right about that.
Baseball identifies too much with the past and makes itself seem anachronistic.

Dumb.

Posted by: eleven at July 30, 2012 01:22 PM (KXm42)

114 Rasmussen has it that a whopping 14% of Americans believe that their children will be better off than they are.

Hope n Change, er Forward!

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 30, 2012 01:24 PM (ccXZP)

115 Dallas megachurch pastor urges flock to Â‘eat mor chikinÂ’ as conservatives rally around Chick-fil-A Anti-gay marriage fast-food chain is also getting support from politicians Mike Huckabee, Sarah Palin and Rick Santorum. Good

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 30, 2012 01:25 PM (j1gX1)

116 Watching the local OKC news. The burning has begun.

As in wildfires, or some other kind of burning?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 30, 2012 05:21 PM (8y9MW)

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Wildfires. Everything has turned into prime kindling now. Just takes a spark.

Posted by: Soona at July 30, 2012 01:25 PM (S0jAR)

117

"I think everyone does better when you spread the wealth around."

"At some point, you've made enough money."

"The private sector is doing just fine."

"You didn't build that."

That is quite the resume of socialist quotes from our President. Am I missing any?

Posted by: SH at July 30, 2012 01:25 PM (gmeXX)

118 All interviews with Kate should be of the jog-along type.

Posted by: Waterhouse at July 30, 2012 01:25 PM (tY0PT)

119 "I'd bet every cent I have the majority of them are still under the influence of the Flavor Aide."
Yeah but that would be part of the fun: if they are as gung ho they make it look even stupider. If they aren't... gee, what happened, folks?
And Colin Cowherd is the dumbest pile of reasty warthog crap on the planet. The man is a sleazy Jim Rome wannabe who knows less about sports than my left asscheek.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 30, 2012 01:26 PM (r4wIV)

120 Wildfires. Everything has turned into prime kindling now. Just takes a spark.

Oh, geez. And nothing up there to stop it but the occasional errant jack-rabbit or prairie dog.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 30, 2012 01:26 PM (8y9MW)

121 no big deal, isn't He handsome, intectually superior than anyone ever, and wonderous?- mfm

Posted by: willow at July 30, 2012 01:26 PM (TomZ9)

122

Brother, have you heard the news? ~~Choco ration~~ GDP Projection is going up!

Posted by: Parsons at July 30, 2012 01:26 PM (IrbU4)

123 I can't think of anything less interesting than what an athlete, especially a pro, has to say about anything.

And please stop interviewing coaches for God's sake. That coachspeak is just mind-numbing.

Posted by: eleven at July 30, 2012 01:27 PM (KXm42)

124 I inherited this shit, bro.

Posted by: Preznit Choom at July 30, 2012 01:27 PM (UOM48)

125

mfm- we do it for the children.

no not your children.

Posted by: willow at July 30, 2012 01:27 PM (TomZ9)

126 First Lady Michelle Obama wows London's Buckingham Palace in captivating, all-white embroidered jacket that retails for $6,800 The First Lady who put middle-market J.Crew on the fashion map turned to the ultraluxe, Park Avenue-style femininity of J. Mendel for the London soiree held at Queen ElizabethÂ’s pad before opening Olympic ceremonies Friday night. Hey that's peanuts compared to her vacations

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 30, 2012 01:28 PM (j1gX1)

127 re: Cruz vs Dewhurst You know why most people don't care about this? Because most of us would trade Dewhurst for whatevershitbag senator we have in our state. From our non-TX perspective, you have a guaranteed win-win in this outcome. I don't care how bad Dewhurst is, he's still better than than every Democrat and nearly all the Republicans in the Senate. So if Cruz wins, great. If Cruz loses, boohoo.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 30, 2012 01:28 PM (9Q7Nu)

128 >>>I can't think of anything less interesting than what an athlete, especially a pro, has to say about anything. Celebrities talking about politics.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 30, 2012 01:28 PM (ZAYlH)

129 That coachspeak is just mind-numbing.

Coaches aren't even as good as lawyers and politicians at the art of "appear to be saying something while not actually saying anything." It's positively painful.

Of course, the few times they actually answer questions, they get in trouble for it, so I guess I can understand why.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 30, 2012 01:29 PM (8y9MW)

130 Wowee, obama impeachment porn, now we got the panties damp!

Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at July 30, 2012 01:29 PM (kXoT0)

131 And Colin Cowherd is the dumbest pile of reasty warthog crap on the planet. The man is a sleazy Jim Rome wannabe who knows less about sports than my left asscheek.

Oh he's an idiot for sure but he's right about baseball.

Trust me, I'd like to throw a rock at his head.

Posted by: eleven at July 30, 2012 01:30 PM (KXm42)

132

Park Avenue-style femininity of J. Mendel for the London soiree held at Queen ElizabethÂ’s pad

Femininity? FLOTUS?

No jacket can do that. Not even a 7k one.

Posted by: garrett at July 30, 2012 01:30 PM (28BGh)

133 Because most of us would trade Dewhurst for whatevershitbag senator we have in our state.

You know why I don't care about this? One is a Lawyer with no elected record, and the other is a Lawyer with a mediocre elected record.

And this is the best we could do? Really?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 30, 2012 01:30 PM (8y9MW)

134 And please stop interviewing coaches for God's sake. That coachspeak is just mind-numbing. I've had to put up with Belichick's mumbles and non-answers for, what, 12 years. He's the worst of all of the bunch. Complete waste of time asking Bill questions.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 30, 2012 01:30 PM (9Q7Nu)

135

Bush's fault-mfm.

2016 if he wins again- Bush's, and rich republican fat cats fault

Posted by: willow at July 30, 2012 01:30 PM (TomZ9)

136

I can't think of anything less interesting than what an athlete, especially a pro, has to say about anything.

You've never been married, have you?

Posted by: garrett at July 30, 2012 01:31 PM (28BGh)

137 I ain't trading no Dewhurst for either Inhofe or Coburn, thankee very kindly. I am hoping for Cruz, but, am OK with Dewhurst, cause either one is shure as shit better'n old Kay Daily Numinskull.

Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at July 30, 2012 01:31 PM (kXoT0)

138 102 The Olympic Flame went out yesterday as it was being moved.

Didn't it go out when they took it whitewater rafting? Srsly.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2012 01:31 PM (UOM48)

139

68 If only we would have spent every dollar, euro, quantroloo in the known universe, this economy would have been roaring back to life!

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Going by what I saw on the TV box thingie over the weekend, the latest spin is "the stimulus worked, but further progress was stopped by intransigent Republicans".

Posted by: Anachronda at July 30, 2012 01:32 PM (IrbU4)

140 Park Avenue-style femininity of J. Mendel for the London soiree held at Queen ElizabethÃ¯Â¿Â½s pad

Femininity? FLOTUS?
No jacket can do that. Not even a 7k one. Posted by: garrett at July 30, 2012 05:30 PM

---------------------------

She could pin Kate Upton to the lapel. (She really could.)

Posted by: irright at July 30, 2012 01:32 PM (5UU+7)

141 @102 - It didn't go out, it was just pining for the fjords.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 30, 2012 01:32 PM (8y9MW)

142 o/t oh god, I want one of these so bad

http://tinyurl.com/cao7wgc

Posted by: The Dude at July 30, 2012 01:32 PM (tw6Ar)

143 Of course, the few times they actually answer questions, they get in trouble for it, so I guess I can understand why.

Oh absolutelly. It's the media's fault interviews are so boring. If you dare to say anything interesting at all they club you to death with it for the rest of the year. At least.

Posted by: eleven at July 30, 2012 01:32 PM (KXm42)

144 2% 1Q 12
1.5% 2Q 12
EQUALS
1.75% 1HALF 12

To get 2.3% will require

2.85% 2HALF 12

REALLY?

Posted by: jukin at July 30, 2012 01:33 PM (5oKRH)

145 If you dare to say anything interesting at all they club you to death with it for the rest of the year.

Them and ownership.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 30, 2012 01:33 PM (8y9MW)

146 well, I'm pretty sure that listening to Derek Jeter's inane post-game comments aren't gonna get my tip wet

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 30, 2012 01:34 PM (9Q7Nu)

147 q4 of 2008 GDP was -8.9% annualized. 2-3% is the new normal until the next business cycle ramps up.

Posted by: Mary Jane Rottencrotch at July 30, 2012 01:34 PM (2fj4R)

148 RELATED TOPICS EGYPTRAMZ JALALCANDID CAMERA In a place where kidnappings have become an all-too common reality, one TV channel is trying to turn the terrifying situation into Ramadan entertainment fodder. EgyptÂ’s al-Hayat TV has begun airing Â“Ramz, The Desert Fox,Â” which pranks celebrities into thinking theyÂ’ve been kidnapped in the Sinai, in a bid for Ramadan viewers. The show has become a not-so-unlikely hit in Egypt, according to Arabic media outlet Al Arabiya, with the laughs coming courtesy of the countryÂ’s prankster in chief, Ramz Jalal. On the show, Arab celebrities are flown to Cairo and put on a bus headed to the resort town of Ghardaka on the Red Sea. Along the way, Jalal and his crew of Â“terroristsÂ” hijack the bus, blow up part of it, and grab and blindfold the unsuspecting celebrity. The mark is then subjected to a fake gunfight, with the camera rolling the whole time. Once the blindfold is pulled off comes the reveal, with the celebrities shown the camera and crew and let it on the joke. Yeah Romney's assertion that Arab Culture is warped is just so far off???????

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 30, 2012 01:34 PM (j1gX1)

149

92 Do you guys remember when, just after the 08 election, lefties started screaming that Obama should take office immediately instead of waiting till inauguration day?

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Bitchin' logo, though, you must admit.

Posted by: Office of the President-Elect at July 30, 2012 01:35 PM (IrbU4)

150 Oooo, more women's volleyball.

Coupla lookers on this GBR team.

Posted by: Waterhouse at July 30, 2012 01:35 PM (tY0PT)

151

I've had to put up with Belichick's mumbles and non-answers for, what, 12 years. He's the worst of all of the bunch.

You'll never have to sit through a Bill Belichek Coor's Light commerical.

Posted by: Jim Mora at July 30, 2012 01:35 PM (O6q63)

152 I find the commentary by Teddy Atlas to be illuminating and informative.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 30, 2012 01:35 PM (ZAYlH)

153 @141. The only problem with that line of thinking is that we constantly hear how much we wish the Senate had more DeMints than McConnells. Well the first thing to do is elect more DeMint's. Dewhurst and Cruz would probably vote the same way 90% of the time. Well so do Scalia and Ginsberg. 90% of the votes are meaningless. Its the 10% that truly matter. This election matters to all of us.

Posted by: SH at July 30, 2012 01:36 PM (gmeXX)

154 You wingnuts just don't get it. The way to full employment and a booming GDP is to increase taxes for people making over $200K and on investments.

Posted by: MJ at July 30, 2012 01:36 PM (TR60b)

155 If Mitt Fuckin' Romney would release his tax returns and would never have created a thriving business, we'd be at full employment and would have a booming GDP.

Posted by: MJ at July 30, 2012 01:37 PM (TR60b)

156 Peter Schiff says it's worse because they are fudging the inflation number.

Posted by: marinetbryant at July 30, 2012 01:37 PM (eJMmL)

157 By my count that's fourteen consecutive posts by Ace midway thru his first day back from vacation. Is meth legal now?

Posted by: t-bird at July 30, 2012 01:38 PM (FcR7P)

158 AllenG - I'm surprised you aren't a Cruz supporter. What's wrong with having a lawyer that fights for our side in the Senate, what's wrong with having a great constitutional expert in their voting on judicial nominees?

Posted by: SH at July 30, 2012 01:39 PM (gmeXX)

159 Hutchison might've cast a few boners but overall she's been okay. Compared to Collins, Snowe, Brown, or those two ex-senators fools from Ohio, Kay is o-kay.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 30, 2012 01:39 PM (9Q7Nu)

160 Anyone see a possible win buried in the recent palestinian outrage at Romney noting, in a Max Weber like way, that their culture might be a reason why Israel is prospering verse the proximate palestinians?

Story: http://tinyurl.com/cyptnov

If questioned, frame it not as an issue that even mentions the palestinians, but frame it entirely from the paradigm that as Americans we believe that the best success comes from a society where all citizens, not just men, have rights and are free to be educated and the pursuit of happiness.

The subtext remains and it's not only a strong endorsement of democratic Israel, but pits support for palestine against support for women's rights.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at July 30, 2012 01:39 PM (Wa+Fw)

161 LOL, NBC got Twitter to block a brit who has been banging on NBC over
its poor coverage in USA. Drudge has the links -- and the tweets that
got him banned.

---

Stupid son of a bitch spoke truth to power.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 30, 2012 01:40 PM (Hx5uv)

162 so if Dewhurst is as 'bad' or as 'good' as Kay Barely, we'll be o-kay.... but just barely.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 30, 2012 01:40 PM (9Q7Nu)

163 Where you put your dog (eating it is ok as long as you're in an exotic location) and if you've ever pulled a prank in boarding school is directly correlated to how you'll perform as president.

Posted by: It's a Choice, Not a Referendum at July 30, 2012 01:40 PM (TR60b)

164 I think the reason coaches get so boring and repetitive is that they're interviewed several times A DAY during the season, before, and after it. After a while, you just are going to start repeating yourself, what choice do you have?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 30, 2012 01:41 PM (r4wIV)

165 Anyone see a possible win buried in the recent palestinian outrage at Romney noting, in a Max Weber like way, that their culture might be a reason why Israel is prospering verse the proximate palestinians?

---

First of all, Romney lied about that. The Palestinians have no culture. A death cult maybe.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 30, 2012 01:41 PM (Hx5uv)

166 Along the way, Jalal and his crew of Â“terroristsÂ” hijack the bus, blow up part of it, and grab and blindfold the unsuspecting celebrity. The Texas Film Commission lost the bid for that show.

Posted by: t-bird at July 30, 2012 01:41 PM (FcR7P)

167 What's wrong with having a lawyer that fights for our side in the Senate,

1) There are too many lawyers in the US Congress as it is.
2) The man is a complete cypher- to my knowledge he's never even been on a city council. His positions as Solicitor General for the State of Texas may or may-not be his core beliefs. Based on his court record, he's willing to go all-out for whoever his client is. That's desirable in an attorney, but only desirable in a politician as long as believes your side is his client.

But, then, our only four choices were:

1) A somewhat squishy Republican w/ a mediocre record
2) A Lawyer with no elective experience whatsoever.
3) The man Liberal Enough to be elected Mayor in Dallas.
4) A Sports-caster.

Seriously.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 30, 2012 01:43 PM (8y9MW)

168 I have to laugh at the idea of offending Palestinians. hahahahahahaha, Are You Fuggin Kiddin ME?!?!?!?!

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 30, 2012 01:43 PM (9Q7Nu)

169 Did you say GDP at 18.8% and unemployment at 2.1%?

Oh. Ohhhh!

Posted by: President Wee Wee at July 30, 2012 01:43 PM (/i9fn)

170 Peter Schiff is the idiot who "predicted" the market crash of 2008 and then lost money on it for all his clients. The WSJ tore him a new asshole for it.

Posted by: Mary Jane Rottencrotch at July 30, 2012 01:43 PM (2fj4R)

171 so if Dewhurst is as 'bad' or as 'good' as Kay Barely, we'll be o-kay....

but just barely.

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According to the University of Texas student newspaper:

"For Progressive Democrats, David Dewhurst is the best option.

Dewhurst publicly affirmed his support for a guest-worker program in 2007. His more recent anti-immigrant rhetoric represents his response to Cruz attacking his conservative credentials Â– not a surprising shift for an office-seeking candidate. But if Dewhurst is elected to a six-year term and Democrats make significant electoral gains in the nationÂ’s legislative body (likely with the President on the ballot), the Lieutenant GovernorÂ’s prior support for immigration reform might re-emerge. In addition, the six-year term will permit Dewhurst to work with President Barack Obama (presuming he wins a second term) on immigration reform, since Dewhurst wouldnÂ’t face re-election until 2018.

Ted Cruz, on the other hand, has not exhibited progressive behavior at all."

Ahhh, if only it were true.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 30, 2012 01:43 PM (Hx5uv)

172 Allen G - a follow up - yes I think Cruz is the best we can do. With Cruz, Paul, Lee, Rubio, DeMint, Johnson and Mourdock in the Senate, we will finally start getting some conservative momentum. Hatch has moved to the right and Cruz victory will force Cornyn to move a little to the right. Cruz will be great on the Sunday circuit and at explainint the conservative position. Who cares if he is a lawyer.

Posted by: SH at July 30, 2012 01:43 PM (gmeXX)

173 I'm looking foward to your succinct prose. Posted by: Soona at July 30, 2012 Heh. Yeah, not many folks have accused me of being very ladylike, at least when it comes to my potty mouth. *blush*

Posted by: DangerGirl at July 30, 2012 01:44 PM (IVRIf)

174 172 Peter Schiff says it's worse because they are fudging the inflation number. Posted by: marinetbryant at July 30, 2012 05:37 PM (eJMmL) Yes the fuck they are.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 30, 2012 01:44 PM (bxiXv)

175 2-3% is the new normal until the next business cycle ramps up.

Posted by: Mary Jane Rottencrotch at July 30, 2012 05:34 PM (2fj4R)

Seems like something is preventing the business cycle from "ramping up," don't you think? The problem for Obama supporters like you is that he hasn't delivered on his promised results.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at July 30, 2012 01:44 PM (3P3G8)

176 I'm not making a case for Dewhurst! Just saying it wouldn't be that awful if he won.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 30, 2012 01:45 PM (9Q7Nu)

177 First Lady Michelle Obama wows London's Buckingham Palace in captivating, all-white embroidered jacket that retails for $6,800

Remember Anne Romney's scandalous $1,000 blouse? What a piker.

Posted by: Cicero at July 30, 2012 01:45 PM (QKKT0)

178 "Yeah, not many folks have accused me of being very ladylike, at least when it comes to my potty mouth."
There are times when that's just perfect.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 30, 2012 01:45 PM (r4wIV)

179 o/t oh god, I want one of these so bad

http://tinyurl.com/cao7wgc

Posted by: The Dude at July 30, 2012 05:32 PM (tw6Ar)

If I had one, then I'd be ready for those California highways.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 30, 2012 01:46 PM (Hx5uv)

180 the latest spin is "the stimulus worked, but further progress was stopped by intransigent Republicans".

The public ain't gonna buy that because the majority of them haven't seen a dime of that stimulus money spent visibly anywhere in their home districts.

In heavily Democrat Palm Beach county, I haven't seen any stimulus money spent anywhere. Not. One. Dime.

Of course some was sent here, but it wound up simply back-filling local city/state general fund shortages which has no public visibility what so ever and was contrary to its intent anyway.

Posted by: @PurpAv at July 30, 2012 01:46 PM (To5Fz)

181 "Remember Anne Romney's scandalous $1,000 blouse? What a piker."
Yeah but at least Michelle Obama's outfit wasn't hideous or tacky this time. Nobody pulled the drapes down from the K-Mart and wrapped her in them.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 30, 2012 01:46 PM (r4wIV)

182 Who cares if he is a lawyer.

I do. See my point #1, above. There's a reason I listed it first.

That said, it will be less of an issue if he turns out really to be conservative. Am I the only one who remembers that Conservative "cyphers" tend to come back and bite us?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 30, 2012 01:46 PM (8y9MW)

183 O/T

Son of Fat and Felonious:
"In short, the DEA here commandeered private property from a law-abiding businessman and ineptly deployed it in an operation that got a man killed and now endangers a family that had nothing to do with the case. There is a term for what the DEA did with that truck: grand theft auto."

At some point incompetence becomes evil.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 30, 2012 01:47 PM (5FvTK)

184

I don't care if you are businessman, a police officer, an engineer, or a lawyer. I care about your ideology. Cruz clerked for Reinquest, worked for Bush and Perry and has been an outspoken Tea Party speaker for the better part of two years. I feel safe in saying he will be a strong conservative.

Breaking news, lawyer defends companies in civil suits.

Posted by: SH at July 30, 2012 01:47 PM (gmeXX)

185 " the latest spin is '[the stimulus worked, but further progress was stopped by intransigent Republicans.'"
I'd say that nobody is dumb enough to buy that but these days....

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 30, 2012 01:47 PM (r4wIV)

186 nood palestinian post

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 30, 2012 01:47 PM (9Q7Nu)

187 Teddy Atlas comments on Olympic boxing for NBC

from his Wiki bio:

His duties included assisting in the training of D'Amato's teenage protÃ©gÃ© Mike Tyson. However, Atlas left the camp in 1982 following an altercation with the 15 year old Tyson after Tyson had been sexually inappropriate with a 12 year old female relative of Atlas's (Tyson said he had grabbed the girl's buttocks). Atlas put a .38 caliber handgun to Tyson's ear and told him to never touch his family again or he would murder him.

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 30, 2012 01:47 PM (8sCoq)

188 Updates are ALWAYS downgrades in this administration. Count on it going forward. Why would anything change?

Posted by: Obama's stealing all the For Sale signs off businesses and ppl's lawns at July 30, 2012 01:48 PM (HOOye)

189 1/3 of Obama's stimulus was payroll tax cuts so if you didn't see that its because you don't have a job. About 65 million saw those tax cuts.

Posted by: Mary Jane Rottencrotch at July 30, 2012 01:48 PM (2fj4R)

190 Now?

Valerie says not yet.

Now?

Valerie says not yet.

Now?

Valerie says not yet.

Now?

Yeah, now. Panetta said it was okay.

Posted by: Commander GutsyCall, But Checkin' With Mom First at July 30, 2012 01:48 PM (QKKT0)

191 "Am I the only one who remembers that Conservative "cyphers" tend to come back and bite us?"
If he's not the incumbent, vote for him anyway. Always replace the incumbent. Always.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 30, 2012 01:48 PM (r4wIV)

192 Heh. Yeah, not many folks have accused me of being very ladylike, at least when it comes to my potty mouth. *blush* Sounds like my wife. Daughter of a DC cop and sister to a Naval Academy grad. A tongue that would take the paint right off your house.

Posted by: Michael Moore at July 30, 2012 01:49 PM (GEICT)

193

Allen G ,

Cruz will do fine and is a shit load better than that establishment repub Dewhurst. I am going to invest serious $ in promoting a tea party candidate to primary Dewhurst and Dan Patrick.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 30, 2012 01:49 PM (mFxQX)

194 I SAID nood post up fly, monkeys, fly!

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 30, 2012 01:50 PM (9Q7Nu)

195 Nolan Ryan used to tell sportscasters that "the key to this game is to score more runs than the other team."

Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 30, 2012 01:50 PM (DS2Ry)

196 Is society so far gone, are we so corrupted, that the demonstrably destructive stagnation and widespread poverty that any kind of socialism delivers can scarcely convince a bare majority to turn away from it? That even faced with the setting sun of progressively lower expectations for every future generation, that they, in greed, arrogance, malice, envy, and outright laziness, cannot En masse reject the poison which is the collectivist structured society for mankind? They cannot look at their children and do the right thing for them, and instead continue to spend their taxes decades before they will ever make a dime to pay them?

If this vote isn't a landslide. I will harbor deep pessimistic visions of our future for a long time.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at July 30, 2012 01:51 PM (0q2P7)

197 210 Heh. Yeah, not many folks have accused me of being very ladylike, at least when it comes to my potty mouth. *blush* The only time I fall into this category is if Obama or Mooch are on the TV, or mentioned. When that happens, my husband quickly changes the channel. LOL

Posted by: Obama's stealing all the For Sale signs off businesses and ppl's lawns at July 30, 2012 01:51 PM (HOOye)

198 First of all, Romney lied about that. The Palestinians have no culture. A death cult maybe.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 30, 2012 05:41 PM (Hx5uv)

Paul Newman played a "Palestinian" in Exodus. My, how times and language have ~~changed~~ been perverted beyond recognition or reason. You're certainly correct about the savage, belligerent, violent Fakestinians, though. They are throwbacks of throwbacks who have already been thrown back and dragged down into the intellectual abyss.

This world is really cruisin' for a bruisin' ... at warp speed.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 30, 2012 01:52 PM (X3lox)

199 I think you will be pleasenatly surprised with Cruz and he will exceed your expecation. Every candidate has some risk. But between the two, I'm not sure it is much of a contest as to who would vote more conservatively. As to who can make the case for their position - Dewhurst is just not a persusaive person. That isn't the most important thing, but it does matter. I think also matters that Dewhurst sees the Senate seat as an end to his career - a finishing touch. Cruz, I suspect has much grander ambitions, not just personally, but within the movement itself. That could be perceived as a negative, but I view it as a positive.

Posted by: SH at July 30, 2012 01:52 PM (gmeXX)

200 Now?

Valerie says not yet.

Now?

Valerie says not yet.

Now?

Valerie says not yet.

Now?

Yeah, now. Panetta said it ~~was okay.~~ is underway.

FIFY

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at July 30, 2012 01:53 PM (T0NGe)

201 You could put a $6800 jacket on a pig, but it would still be a pig.

Posted by: barry o at July 30, 2012 01:56 PM (ljHXt)

202 1/3 of Obama's stimulus was payroll tax cuts so if you didn't see that its because you don't have a job.

About 65 million saw those tax cuts.

Posted by: Mary Jane Rottencrotch at July 30, 2012 05:48 PM (2fj4R)

Um, you do know that the tax rates weren't reduced? Giving someone an extra few dollars per paycheck but not reducing income tax liability is not a tax cut.

Problem for the SCOAMF and his ball-washers, like you, is that he over-promised and under-delivered. Not only that but between JAN 2009 and JAN 2011, the Democrats had overwhelming majorities in both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at July 30, 2012 01:57 PM (3P3G8)

203 FICA rates were reduced on your take home pay, pal. Some GOPers argued for matching employer FICA cuts as well. I am not saying the stimulus was all that great but it cost 1/2 of Bush's fucked up Iraq adventure and it stayed in the USA.

Posted by: Mary Jane Rottencrotch at July 30, 2012 02:05 PM (2fj4R)

204

1592% 1Q 12
1.5% 2Q 12
EQUALS
1.75% 1HALF 12

To get 2.3% will require

2.85% 2HALF 12

REALLY?

I did the math too, and that's what it is. 2.85% GDP for the next two quarters is mighty optimistic for an economy headed down into recession. Of course, the President of the United States wouldn't have his Ministry of Truth feed us self-serving propaganda, i.e. lie to us, just to get himself re-elected, would he?

Posted by: Chas at July 30, 2012 02:18 PM (AZudj)

205 Thanks for doing the math, I was thinking it was something absurdly optimistic like that. I'm convinced that we're already contracting and probably have been since last quarter, but we won't learn about it for years.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 30, 2012 02:30 PM (r4wIV)

206

I can see it now. Romney wins! Day one: Repeal!

Day eight-hundred: Ruled Unconst you spell it.

Foreward!

Posted by: just another dave at July 30, 2012 03:52 PM (f2+yf)

207 Obama Quietly Revises Growth Projections... Downwards

As short a time ago as February, the Ministry of Plenty had issued a promise (a 'categorical pledge' were the official words) that there would be no reduction of the chocolate ration during 1984. Actually, as Winston was aware, the chocolate ration was to be reduced from thirty grammes to twenty at the end of the present week. All that was needed was to substitute for the original promise a warning that it would probably be necessary to reduce the ration at some time in April.

Posted by: malclave at July 30, 2012 04:14 PM (OCRaO)

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