September 25, 2012
— Ace !!!
Isn't the corollary to that, "The future must belong to those who respect Islam"?
Perhaps even belong to Islam itself?
How far are we going to take this, exactly?
The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. But to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated, or churches that are destroyed, or the Holocaust that is denied. Let us condemn incitement against Sufi Muslims, and Shia pilgrims. It is time to heed the words of Gandhi: “Intolerance is itself a form of violence and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit.” Together, we must work towards a world where we are strengthened by our differences, and not defined by them. That is what America embodies. That’s the vision we will support.
Interesting that he sees an equivalence between "slandering" Mohammad and actual violence and mayhem.
The Islamist radicals agree. Obama is adding his voice to that bloody choir -- that "slandering" the prophet is precisely equal to murder and mayhem. Rather than challenging that mindset -- that free speech about a man who's been dead for 800 years is the equivalent of violence and bloody riot -- he endorses it.
So it's just a case of "We started it," isn't it?
By the way, after his eulogy to Chris Stevens, he then went right to the YouTube video, suggesting, once again, that it's all about the video.
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Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 25, 2012 11:00 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: erg loughner at September 25, 2012 11:01 AM (bTzlP)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2012 11:01 AM (+tqYo)
Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2012 11:01 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Waterhouse at September 25, 2012 11:02 AM (/PEZV)
Posted by: Max Power at September 25, 2012 11:02 AM (q177U)
Posted by: tasker at September 25, 2012 11:02 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2012 11:02 AM (PHb2k)
Posted by: EC at September 25, 2012 11:03 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: General Woundwort at September 25, 2012 11:03 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: Reggie Love at September 25, 2012 11:03 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: JDTAY at September 25, 2012 11:03 AM (a0nis)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2012 11:03 AM (+tqYo)
Posted by: cajun carrot at September 25, 2012 11:04 AM (UZQM8)
Dear lord. What is wrong with these people?
The left falls in love with anyone who hates America or its founding ideas, no matter how odious or fascistic that person or group is.
You can go through the list. Mussolini, Stalin, Soviet Union, Che, Castro, Sandinistas, etc.
Posted by: Ben at September 25, 2012 11:04 AM (C2Y4l)
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 11:04 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 25, 2012 11:04 AM (GvYeG)
It's like he wants to co-exist 'n' shit.
Don't tell us, Barry. Tell the folks who passed out candy when planes got flown into the World Trade Center.
Posted by: fluffy at September 25, 2012 11:04 AM (4pSIn)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2012 11:04 AM (+tqYo)
Or maybe he's just a bad president. Yeah, I like this explanation better.
Posted by: Shoot Me at September 25, 2012 11:05 AM (qiXMt)
Posted by: take it further at September 25, 2012 11:05 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Flounder at September 25, 2012 11:05 AM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: toby928© at September 25, 2012 11:05 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2012 11:06 AM (+tqYo)
Posted by: Boomer Redneque hates people who want to destroy America at September 25, 2012 11:06 AM (bbD1X)
Telling the truth about a violent pederast is not considered slander.
nor is the truth about the killing, the maiming, the women abuse, the child abuse, the torture, the mass murder, the theft, the terrorism, etc.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2012 11:06 AM (PHb2k)
Posted by: Bill R. at September 25, 2012 11:06 AM (02E4/)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2012 11:06 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 25, 2012 11:06 AM (XvHmy)
Posted by: B. HuSSein Obama at September 25, 2012 11:07 AM (wIgpo)
If you slander Christianity, a Christian will pray for you.
Big difference.
Posted by: navybrat at September 25, 2012 11:07 AM (xMj1A)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Harry Reid is a pederast and a strangler at September 25, 2012 11:07 AM (IZTTb)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2012 11:07 AM (+tqYo)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 25, 2012 11:07 AM (XvHmy)
Posted by: Craig Poe at September 25, 2012 11:07 AM (BVkEs)
Posted by: tasker at September 25, 2012 11:08 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: nuclearjim at September 25, 2012 11:08 AM (HNE5E)
Maybe if I go burn down a few of their embassies, Obama will give a nice speech at the UN for me?
Posted by: Exile at September 25, 2012 11:08 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: toby928© at September 25, 2012 11:08 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2012 11:08 AM (+tqYo)
Posted by: Woody at September 25, 2012 11:08 AM (07RHD)
Posted by: Waterhouse at September 25, 2012 11:08 AM (/PEZV)
Remarks by the President to the UN General Assembly
True democracy demands that citizens cannot be thrown in jail because of what they believe, and that businesses can be opened without paying a bribe. It depends on the freedom of citizens to speak their minds and assemble without fear, and on the rule of law and due process that guarantees the rights of all people.
BRB. Throwing that video guy in jail and closing down any company that isn't one of my campaign donors.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 25, 2012 11:08 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: JDTAY at September 25, 2012 11:08 AM (a0nis)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Harry Reid is a pederast and a strangler at September 25, 2012 11:08 AM (IZTTb)
Posted by: erg's brain at September 25, 2012 11:09 AM (vDl/w)
Posted by: Dante, The Original H8er at September 25, 2012 11:09 AM (wsGWu)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2012 11:09 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at September 25, 2012 11:09 AM (X/+QT)
Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2012 11:09 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 25, 2012 11:09 AM (o/7Bl)
Whatever he is, TFG is not of us - and by "us" I mean any American of any political stripe I have ever met in my life. He is other than us.
No, Jay Carney, you may *not* spin that as a positive assessment of SCFOAMF's character.
Posted by: Jaws at September 25, 2012 11:09 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 11:09 AM (8y9MW)
Not the first time SCOAMF has ignored Congress and legislated something. He's been pretty open about how he believes he should do that, too.
Probably won't be the last, either. January's a long way off.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at September 25, 2012 11:10 AM (/kI1Q)
No, it must belong to those who eat pizza topped with bacon and ham.
Posted by: Exile at September 25, 2012 11:10 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone battery low at September 25, 2012 11:10 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Zombie Al Capone at September 25, 2012 11:10 AM (+tqYo)
Yeah, bring up Gandhi you surrendering cheesedick -- his idea of submission was for millions of his countrymen to passively die rather than resist any boot. He also liked sleeping with children.
Guck Fandhi and Buck Ofama.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 25, 2012 11:10 AM (ccXZP)
I posted this in an earlier thread, but it directly ties to this, so I'll repost it here.
The equivocation Obama makes here is incorrect. In all the examples he gives, Muslims are the primary actors.
A likely-atheist European draws a cartoon of Mohammed -- the Muslim world goes up in flames. Embassies are burned, people murdered, flags torched, riots from dusk to dawn.
An atheist artist puts a crucifix in a jar of his own urine. The Christian world responds with stern condemnations and some charity pot lucks.
The Muslim world sees the burning of churches and synagogues, the murder of "infidels" and "apostates," the denial of past genocides and the encouragement of future ones, and the destruction of monuments of immense historical significance as justified and viable responses to a pen and ink drawing.
As other commenters noted, when Christians protested that Piss Christ was PUBLICALLY FUNDED (in other words, taxpayer subsidized), they were called backwards neanderthals who had no appreciation for culture or art. Did Christians riot, murder, rape and pillage? No.
There's no equivalency there.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 25, 2012 11:10 AM (4df7R)
I know I'm not alone. Obama will drive more people to vote for Romney every time he makes another stupid move like this one.
Posted by: cranky-d at September 25, 2012 11:11 AM (GsXbZ)
Posted by: ErikW at September 25, 2012 11:11 AM (susfU)
Is English your third language? That wasn't even coherent.
Go get your shine-box.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 11:11 AM (8y9MW)
Remarks by the President to the UN General Assembly
That is what we saw play out in the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world. Now, I have made it clear that the United States government had nothing to do with this video, and I believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity.
It is an insult not only to Muslims, but to America as well -- for as the city outside these walls makes clear, we are a country that has welcomed people of every race and every faith. We are home to Muslims who worship across our country. We not only respect the freedom of religion, we have laws that protect individuals from being harmed because of how they look or what they believe. We understand why people take offense to this video because millions of our citizens are among them.
You know that city outside these walls? Guess which religion made the population drop by about 3000 or so.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 25, 2012 11:11 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: TD at September 25, 2012 11:11 AM (gNt90)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2012 11:11 AM (X3lox)
So does the President have a final solution in mind?
Posted by: General Woundwort at September 25, 2012 11:12 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: Crom at September 25, 2012 11:12 AM (1WKq7)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2012 11:12 AM (GFM2b)
Cheap beer tastes like you brewed it with your dirty socks instead of malt-n-hops.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at September 25, 2012 11:12 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: maddogg at September 25, 2012 11:13 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: ToursLepantoVienna at September 25, 2012 11:13 AM (KvKOu)
Posted by: Vic
The Ó states that it is only an "organizing principle".
Posted by: dogfish at September 25, 2012 11:13 AM (NuPNl)
So is this Bammy's attempt to create a "Bammy Doctrine?"
DUBYA DOCTRINE: "You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists."
BAMMY DOCTRINE: "The future must not belong to those who slander Islam."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 25, 2012 11:13 AM (4df7R)
Unless they're Hollywood celebtards, gays, or rich atheists
It must have pained him to include that, must have been polling data and focus groups.
Meanwhile, he says nothing against Piss Christ and Hillary was seen giving a standing ovation to Book of Mormon
Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2012 11:13 AM (wwsoB)
Then we punch back, take over a few of their countries, kill bad guys and now they don't like it?
Where I come from that's called tuff shit.
Bless their hearts.
Posted by: Exile at September 25, 2012 11:13 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Harry Reid is a pederast and a strangler at September 25, 2012 11:13 AM (IZTTb)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2012 11:13 AM (PHb2k)
but this is not my blog
I WEEP FOR MY NATION
AND FOOTBALL
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 25, 2012 11:14 AM (8sCoq)
tinyurl.com/87xvl7w
Smite the perverts and the obstinate
Praising the death of the free
United States of Islam
That's what you would like it to be
Violate the unbelievers
Praising crimes against man
Human rights mean nothing
Doctrine of death a scourge upon man
I you fear, seeing through your lies
You I fear, raping of innocent minds
Follow us blindly or die like a dog
Blood mixed with sand for this holy war
Your saviors a killer, you die for Allah
You are all children of a worthless god
Posted by: entropy at September 25, 2012 11:14 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: Sgt. Fury at September 25, 2012 11:14 AM (vIwqz)
Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2012 11:14 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: Janet Napolitano at September 25, 2012 11:14 AM (B/VB5)
Maybe if he didn't talk and act like one ..
Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2012 11:14 AM (wwsoB)
That should be first and foremost to any response that this was over a video.
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 25, 2012 11:14 AM (imtbm)
So why can't we just slander the shit out of the towel head, and everyone can condemn the hate?
This so weak and so suck up that it is disgusting.
He doesn't even see the difference.
Yes he does, the fucking weasel.
Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 25, 2012 11:15 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: torabora at September 25, 2012 11:15 AM (z6uAV)
Posted by: zombie gandhi at September 25, 2012 11:15 AM (vDl/w)
We must not slander those who mean to enflame the whole world with religious fascism...
Posted by: King O'Bull$hit at September 25, 2012 11:15 AM (xse1M)
"Dear lord. What is wrong with these people? "
Permanent adolescence.
Defiance of the traditional and being different from everyone else just like all your buddies is the most important thing to an adolescent. That and sex without responsibility.
Posted by: Jaws at September 25, 2012 11:16 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: palooka at September 25, 2012 11:16 AM (sQ64J)
Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2012 03:14 PM
Kristol, Noonan, Frum, wherever you are out there ...
FUCK YOU TOO !!!
Posted by: Lt Col Frank Slade at September 25, 2012 11:16 AM (wwsoB)
22 tora = tiger
Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 25, 2012 03:04 PM (o/7Bl)
Or the 5 Books of Moses. Take-a-you-pick.
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You mean the Jews were behind the Pearl Harbor attack?!!!!! I knew they were crafty.
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 25, 2012 11:16 AM (XUKZU)
and speaking of slander, has Obama called on Harry Reid to apologize for slandering Romney..?
Posted by: mallfly at September 25, 2012 11:16 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: maddogg at September 25, 2012 11:16 AM (OlN4e)
He and his adherents deserve no respect.
As we have seen over the course of the last 50+ years they are animals all of them pure and simple.
We even have cases in the United States of honor killings and genital mutilation.
I am damned tired of hearing how I must respect and understand this death cult.
Posted by: General Woundwort at September 25, 2012 11:16 AM (06lNq)
Remarks by the President to the UN General Assembly
Now, let me be clear: Just as we cannot solve every problem in the world, the United States has not and will not seek to dictate the outcome of democratic transitions abroad. We do not expect other nations to agree with us on every issue, nor do we assume that the violence of the past weeks or the hateful speech by some individuals represent the views of the overwhelming majority of Muslims, any more than the views of the people who produced this video represents those of Americans.
If you like your Islamic dictatorship, you can keep your Islamic dictatorship.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 25, 2012 11:16 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 25, 2012 11:16 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: tasker at September 25, 2012 11:16 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Iron Eyes Cody at September 25, 2012 11:16 AM (XvHmy)
Posted by: average libyan at September 25, 2012 11:17 AM (vDl/w)
Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2012 03:14 PM
Next we'll have Kristol telling us what a great journolist Tommy Christopher is
Fuckwad
Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2012 11:17 AM (wwsoB)
Teh JEF's stated the contra-positive case for his sharia goat-fucked-ness.
Gonna have to show my teenager how to use maths in political speech.
Posted by: sTevo at September 25, 2012 11:17 AM (VasTu)
Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2012 11:17 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 25, 2012 11:17 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: You heard it here first at September 25, 2012 11:17 AM (xse1M)
No?
Well, how about forced conversion to Christianity with resistance being met with death?
No?
OK, let's try again. A time when Christians burnt down other peoples temples in the name of Jesus?
No?
Oh wait. A time when other religions desecrated Jesus and we rioted and killed people as a response?
No?
We will have to try this another time...
Posted by: Exile at September 25, 2012 11:17 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 25, 2012 11:18 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD is on Team Alice at September 25, 2012 11:18 AM (VtjlW)
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That's my head esplodin'.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 11:18 AM (8y9MW)
what's the 'or else' ????????????????????????????
Posted by: Milo Minderbinder at September 25, 2012 11:18 AM (Dll6b)
“The future does not belong to those who attack our Embassies and Consulates and kill our Ambassadors. The Angel of Death in the form of an American Bald Eagle will visit you and wreak havoc and destruction upon your existence."
Posted by: Ian S. at September 25, 2012 11:19 AM (B/VB5)
@8 Brooklyn Democratic Assemblyman Dov Hikind will cross party lines to back Mitt Romney for president.
Hikind, who has pull among Orthodox Jews, said heÂ’s fed up with the way President Obama has treated Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as the Jewish state deals with threats from Iran.
This pisses me off. So it's A-OK to fuck America in the ass, no problem there, but mistreat Netanyahu and Israel, and it's on? WTF?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 25, 2012 11:19 AM (U+DUu)
Posted by: Black Panther Poll Watchers at September 25, 2012 11:19 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: talking out of both sides of the mouth does not work at September 25, 2012 11:19 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 25, 2012 11:19 AM (w9iTT)
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 25, 2012 11:20 AM (W2Z3C)
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said during a conference call Monday that he agreed Mitt Romney had “sullied” their shared Mormon faith with his comments about “47 percent” of Americans, secretly recorded during a fundraiser earlier this year.
Posted by: mallfly at September 25, 2012 11:20 AM (bJm7W)
1400 years. And he hasn't improved with age.
Posted by: Cicero at September 25, 2012 11:20 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Ian S. at September 25, 2012 11:20 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: @ParisParamus at September 25, 2012 11:20 AM (bN5ZU)
Posted by: Karusky at September 25, 2012 11:20 AM (dKyuh)
Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2012 11:20 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2012 11:20 AM (GFM2b)
No?
Posted by: Exile at September 25, 2012 03:17 PM (GGCsk)
Uh.....
Posted by: Comquestadors in S/C America at September 25, 2012 11:20 AM (OlN4e)
Overall not as terrible as I thought it would be. I figured enough people bought the video meme to float some "defamation of religions" law in public instead of private.
Who knows what happens when Islam discovers paintings? That could require another look.
Posted by: Beagle at September 25, 2012 11:21 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 25, 2012 11:21 AM (4+LTj)
They all have books on Amazon. Bring those books up on Amazon and give them shitty 1 or 0 star ratings.
They don't give a shit what we say about them as long as they get those cocktail party invites and analyst gigs
Book sales is one way to fuck them over. They do care about their bank accounts
Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2012 11:21 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 25, 2012 11:21 AM (H2oUb)
Posted by: talking out of both sides of the mouth does not work at September 25, 2012 11:21 AM (LpQbZ)
I know I'm not alone. Obama will drive more people to vote for Romney every time he makes another stupid move like this one.
Posted by: cranky-d at September 25, 2012 03:11 PM (GsXbZ)
Thank you. Spread the word.
Posted by: Flounder at September 25, 2012 11:21 AM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: Science Ninja Team Gatchaman at September 25, 2012 11:22 AM (e0xKF)
I don't really have a big problem with his comments. Yeah, there is a difference between speech and violence, but look at the audience. That distinction will be lost on them.
But Toonces should just come out and admit he's not speaking for himself. Just tell the mucketys at the U.N. what he really wants to say. Which is, "I know Islam demands a higher level of respect than other religions, but I can't sell that at home. Americans aren't having it, and certainly not from Holocaust deniers and persecutors of Christians. Sorry I can't help."
Posted by: spongeworthy at September 25, 2012 11:22 AM (r5w1L)
Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2012 11:22 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Vic at September 25, 2012 11:22 AM (YdQQY)
Well, I'll be damned. Madonna was right - there is a black Muslim in the White House.
Hesh my mouth.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 25, 2012 11:22 AM (vaKm1)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2012 11:22 AM (PHb2k)
Yet another case of Obama demonstrating his trademark "Kneepad Diplomacy" technique.
Posted by: dorian taupe at September 25, 2012 11:22 AM (IfM3l)
Obama has not condemned Piss Christ, therefore he is not credible.
Posted by: Marsh-Mellow at September 25, 2012 11:22 AM (bDzog)
Posted by: theBuckWheat at September 25, 2012 11:22 AM (hBb5u)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone battery low at September 25, 2012 03:10 PM (I2LwF)
FIFY
Posted by: Unclefacts, now with even more summoning power. at September 25, 2012 11:23 AM (6IReR)
The President told you to quit being a prick.
Fuck him sideways. My disposition is none of his business.
Posted by: fluffy at September 25, 2012 11:23 AM (4pSIn)
Posted by: RWC at September 25, 2012 11:23 AM (fWAjv)
"Pizza."
(taps toe impatiently while awaiting DOJ investigation into child food abuse charges to be brought)
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 25, 2012 11:23 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2012 11:23 AM (X3lox)
So does the President have a final solution in mind?
Posted by: General Woundwort at September 25, 2012 03:12 PM (06lNq)
lol
Posted by: Flounder at September 25, 2012 11:23 AM (Kkt/i)
In other words, he's calling for a future where people don't mock religions, not calling for a future where no one criticizes Islam. (Note: nothing about Mormons. Granted its a smaller religion but still... the whole H8 crap in California was all about hating on Mormons).
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 25, 2012 11:23 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2012 11:24 AM (GFM2b)
Right, because nothing says "tolerance" like the international Muslim community.
But thanks to Obama we now know which Government Approved beliefs and viewpoints we are allowed to tolerate. Thank you, Mom Jeans!
Islamic "prophet" and beliefs- Must tolerate.
Mocking an ancient pedophile murderer who spawned centuries of violent savagery- Intolerable
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 25, 2012 11:24 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Ian S. at September 25, 2012 11:24 AM (B/VB5)
Past and Islam...ok. Not future.....
Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2012 11:24 AM (X6akg)
The actor, Robert Davi, has written a good article about this...over at Breitbart...
Titled..."Political Correctness and the Rise of Sharia Law"
A quote:
"You know what, I just might convert. For one thing Hollywood would open its arms to me. I bet I'd get a lot more work! Because then I could have the blessing of being politically correct -- and they would all RALLY round me! Yes! The Left would love me! "
Link in my nic.
Posted by: wheatie at September 25, 2012 11:24 AM (7KuzJ)
Posted by: ErikW at September 25, 2012 11:24 AM (susfU)
But to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn
the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated...
Obama has not condemned Piss Christ, therefore he is not credible.
Posted by: Marsh-Mellow at September 25, 2012 03:22 PM (bDzog)
Nor has he condemned his own fucking administration forcing Catholic and other religious organizations to fund abortions and abortifacients thanks to his fucking healthcare law.
No credibility whatsoever.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 25, 2012 11:24 AM (4df7R)
I am just not sure where our President is taking this.
It is one thing to discuss "freedom of religion" with respect to the individual American, who has the right to the free practice of religion, without hindrance of the State. But to say that we can't "slander" Islam, begs the question, "just what is slander with respect to Islam?" Where does free speech begin and end with respect to this religion?
Will there be legislation or an Executive Order defining this nebulous quantity called 'slander'?
Because if you read your New Testament, Jesus Christ explicitly said there would be no prophets to follow Him, that He was the Last Word with respect to God. ( Which does put the Apostle Paul in a bit of a bad light, but that's another bone to pick at a later date.)
If you are a Jew, you are free to reject Christ and think as you please. If you are a practitioner of another religion (such as Islam), again you are free to think as you please. But if you are a Christian, you frankly cannot accept Islam at all. To an honest believing Christian, Islam is an apostasy.
I am not willing to commit the United States to war over a religious apostasy (the Crusades tried this and succeeded and failed to various degrees). But if a Christian preacher were to stand in his pulpit on a Sunday morning and say that Islam is an apostasy to his faith, he would be right. Is this slander? If someone puts a You Tube video up and says this so the whole world can see it, is this slander?
Just how far is the numb nuts from Chicago willing to go with his ass-kissing and ball-licking genuflection to Islam?
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch (fake Internet person) writes..... at September 25, 2012 11:25 AM (RFeQD)
Not really. The Conquista ("Reqconquista" is the idea behind La Raza) was in the name of Spain, not Christ. The Crusades were not about forcing anyone to Christianity, but (primarily) about political conquest and (secondarily) about protecting the Christian pilgrims to the Holy Land.
And neither were modern.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 11:25 AM (8y9MW)
"To be credible"? Unbelievable.
Posted by: Craig Poe at September 25, 2012 11:25 AM (BVkEs)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD is on Team Alice at September 25, 2012 11:25 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 25, 2012 11:25 AM (o/7Bl)
"Mr. President, what legislation will you be sending to Congress to prevent 'those who slander islam' from being part of the future?"
"Will you be endorsing the UN proposals for universal blasphemy laws?"
"When did you last take the Lord's Name in vain?"
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 25, 2012 11:26 AM (CdCPN)
Posted by: You heard it here first at September 25, 2012 11:26 AM (xse1M)
Just remember what Islam considers Blasphemy.
Ch 5 Ver 72 (Yusuf Ali)
They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary."
But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your
Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden,
and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to
help.
Just think in the new blasphemy free world the Catholic Proclamation of Faith will be a blasphemy,
"We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made."
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 25, 2012 11:26 AM (0q2P7)
The fruits of the religion he is alleged to have transcribed are nothing but suffering, misery and death.
Actually, IIRC, Mohammed didn't transcribe shit, being illiterate (and schizophrenic, into the bargain). The Koran, I believe, was written by others who tried to remember Mohammeds ravings teachings.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 25, 2012 11:26 AM (U+DUu)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 25, 2012 11:27 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Ian S. at September 25, 2012 11:27 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: Andy at September 25, 2012 11:27 AM (5Rurq)
Fuck you, you cocksucking, ass kissing, ball-less, brainless, spineless, butt fucking, narcissistic, egomaniacal, prick of SCOAMT.
Respect? YOU want to lecture ME about respect? Where's the respect for my faith? Where's the respect for my values? For my culture? For my fucking country? I'll tell you where it is, it's in the fucking shitter where you and others like you put it.
You dare to go before that group of anti-semitic, sanctimonious, tin pot dictator assholes and blame violence from savages on free speech? I repeat, FUCK YOU.
You want to take away my freedom of speech? You wanna take away my freedom of choice? Whether it be what I drink or eat or buy. Well, I tell you what bitch boy......MOLON LABE
*steps down, breathing heavily*
Well, no one is ever going to sell me another rage meter now.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 25, 2012 11:27 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Harry Reid is a pederast and a strangler at September 25, 2012 11:27 AM (IZTTb)
As a woman, I find this constant appeasement by the liberal Nags of islam to be particularly confusing. If fluke, whoopi, hillary, behar, and the rest of the nutty sluts think the imams and mullahs will let them have abortion on demand, equal rights, or even an aspirin, then they are dumber than they look. To be dumber than they look is to be mighty d@mn dumb.
Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at September 25, 2012 11:27 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: torabora at September 25, 2012 11:27 AM (z6uAV)
Posted by: Fickle Finger of Fate at September 25, 2012 11:28 AM (48wze)
Posted by: USA at September 25, 2012 11:28 AM (RIg+t)
Posted by: Sinalco at September 25, 2012 11:28 AM (AiZkN)
Posted by: You heard it here first at September 25, 2012 11:28 AM (xse1M)
Posted by: Naqamel at September 25, 2012 11:29 AM (UMwMT)
But then I realize it is real, and I weep.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 25, 2012 11:29 AM (o7GQh)
Why, yes, yes we must!
Yeah, he means us.. We were mean to those poor little Muslims or something...
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 25, 2012 11:29 AM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: PaleRider at September 25, 2012 11:29 AM (dkExz)
Posted by: Ed Gibbon at September 25, 2012 11:29 AM (4eNxd)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD is on Team Alice at September 25, 2012 11:29 AM (VtjlW)
Okay, okay, hold on just a second. So. If I insult a bunch of Lutherans, some Episcopalians, a gaggle of Mormons, a group of Catholics and those Baptists over there, does that mean I'll get some Nilla wafers, a half case of the second best wine, some funeral potatoes, a nice tuna fish casserole and jell-o salad?
Don't you want us to wash your car?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 25, 2012 11:29 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Fickle Finger of Fate at September 25, 2012 11:30 AM (48wze)
Exile wasn't limiting himself to modern. Hence the criticism.
(And the Spanish do refer to the retaking of Spain as Reconquista. Just because la Raza wants to re-use the term doesn't change that.)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 25, 2012 11:30 AM (4+LTj)
we gotta vote this mutt OUT in November
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 25, 2012 11:30 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: John Boehner at September 25, 2012 11:30 AM (mWijP)
168142 You missed that part where he said Obama was a bad President I guess.
Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2012 03:22 PM (6o4Fb)
You missed the part where he implied that Obama was a bad President because of his policies toward Israel.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 25, 2012 11:30 AM (U+DUu)
Posted by: Ian S. at September 25, 2012 11:30 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD is on Team Alice at September 25, 2012 11:31 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Naes at September 25, 2012 11:31 AM (0Q9ua)
violence and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit.”
Telling muslims to piss on Mohammed is not intolerance. It's un-acceptance. Tolerance does not mean approval.
Beheading anyone who tells you to piss on Mohammed is actually intolerant.
Posted by: entropy at September 25, 2012 11:31 AM (TULs6)
There was plenty, up to about 200 years ago, not so much recently.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 25, 2012 11:31 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: ErikW at September 25, 2012 11:31 AM (susfU)
Posted by: Average Joe at September 25, 2012 11:31 AM (bN5ZU)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Harry Reid is a pederast and a strangler at September 25, 2012 11:31 AM (IZTTb)
Look in the mirror, President Fuckface
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 25, 2012 11:31 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at September 25, 2012 11:32 AM (wsGWu)
Posted by: ryukyu at September 25, 2012 11:32 AM (Cvyuv)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 25, 2012 11:32 AM (GFM2b)
So if I understand it correctly, he believes that condemning hate of desecrated Jesus images, destroyed churches or Holocaust denial isn't good and proper in itself, but it's only proper in order to bring credibility to condemnation of anti-mohammedan hate.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 25, 2012 11:32 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: talking out of both sides of the mouth does not work at September 25, 2012 11:32 AM (LpQbZ)
Obama: Jews, Christians, Muslims need to solve these issues like good Hindus.
_
must be his recent lack of masturbation and the concomittant loss of prostate health that accompanies.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 25, 2012 11:32 AM (RuUvx)
Not to defend Obama, but here's the quote in context:
The future must not belong to those who target Coptic Christians in Egypt – it must be claimed by those in Tahrir Square who chanted “Muslims, Christians, we are one.” The future must not belong to those who bully women – it must be shaped by girls who go to school, and those who stand for a world where our daughters can live their dreams just like our sons. The future must not belong to those corrupt few who steal a country’s resources – it must be won by the students and entrepreneurs; workers and business owners who seek a broader prosperity for all people. Those are the men and women that America stands with; theirs is the vision we will support.
The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.
Thank you for the wider context, CT, but it's immaterial. It's a lot of bluster; sound and fury signifying nothing. The statement should have been: "The future must not belong to those who seek to silence a voice -- any voice -- because that voice says things they don't agree with. Those voices are vital; they are necessary for growth. There can be no exceptions. A person, a group, a country, a world that seeks to silence even one voice that dares to question the status quo is a person, a group, a country, a world that is moribund, stagnant, and cold."
Done.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 25, 2012 11:33 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Ian S. at September 25, 2012 03:30 PM (B/VB5)
So, like Julia?
Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2012 11:33 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Fickle Finger of Fate at September 25, 2012 11:33 AM (48wze)
Yes, eight crusades as a response to the Muslim encroachment and wars in the middle ages plus a hundred year period to reclaim land taken by force (in a period where wars of that sort were common) compared to a religion which has, since its inception to this day and by its own writ and philosophy, implored violence, corporal punishment, murder, misogynistic behavior, forced conversions and all other types of outrageous behavior.
Not even close.
Posted by: Exile at September 25, 2012 11:33 AM (GGCsk)
You will embrace all other religions as your own and shall commit no blasphemy against any of them, except Christianity and anything involving Jews. You will respect islam and the violence that comes with not respecting it.
This, is the change you voted for. Resistance is futile."
Posted by: © Sponge at September 25, 2012 11:33 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 25, 2012 11:33 AM (bxiXv)
Well, he is. But he's Reagan and Thatcher compared to this apologist twerp
Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2012 11:33 AM (wwsoB)
Interestingly some recent research suggests there was no actual Mo - he didn't show up in Islamic writings until something like 200 years after he died and may be either a composite or entirely made up.
Composite? Entirely made up? How old is Bill Ayers, anyway?
And is "composite" etymologically related to "compost?"
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 25, 2012 11:33 AM (U+DUu)
Posted by: runninrebel at September 25, 2012 11:34 AM (3ryAQ)
President Obama's address at the United Nations was at times eloquently aspirational, and for the most part conventionally unobjectionable.
William Kristol - The Weekly Standard
Four -- oh, what the heck, Four and 1/2 Stars.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 25, 2012 11:34 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 25, 2012 11:34 AM (W2Z3C)
Anyone got a Kleenex?
Posted by: Chris Matthews at September 25, 2012 11:35 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: torabora at September 25, 2012 11:35 AM (z6uAV)
What's conservative in allowing the spread of fundamentalist Islam throughout the Middle East? Because that's the kind of horseshit Kristol and the rest are pushing when they advocate for "democracy" in Islamic nations?
This kind of thinking is forgivable for a few years after 9/11 but for christ sake how much failure do we have to witness, how much of there own leadership words do we have to ignore, how much violence do we close our eyes to before we reject this whole fantasy of democracy in Islam working out for us?
Posted by: lowandslow at September 25, 2012 11:35 AM (GZitp)
hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated
It sounds like he's saying the images of Christ are the hate.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at September 25, 2012 11:35 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at September 25, 2012 11:36 AM (71LDo)
I did not hear his speech, as I am reserving that special moment for his concession speech to Romney. I have read parts of his UN babble the way I had a colonoscopy prep, and then shat them out with force.
It will take a lot for me to get thorough part of the debates, as I do not want his voice in my head. I abhor him, everything, the air he breathes, the molecules that make up his being, his pigeon-toes, his warty mole, his gummy smile and his greenish skin. Every. Single Thing. Cannot and will not say one word in support of him. I am trying to think of one positive word and I have...nothing.
I live for the election and seeing him leave DC on January 20, 2013. I know I am not alone. I know this blog of morons is not alone. We are Chick-fil-a. We are the Army of 2010. We are going to win.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at September 25, 2012 11:36 AM (baL2B)
Posted by: Fickle Finger of Fate at September 25, 2012 11:36 AM (48wze)
204 Never forget: You are watching freedom of speech dying in America, abandoned by our own government.
Nah. government is of, for, and by the people. People with guns, and bad attitudes about shit like that. Oh, and MOLON LABE.
Posted by: Roy at September 25, 2012 11:36 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at September 25, 2012 11:36 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Naes at September 25, 2012 11:36 AM (0Q9ua)
Okay, Baraka. Here goes. Fuck islam. Fuck all the people who believe in islam. Islam sucks goat dicks. Islam is the philosophy of satan. Islam is the dead pig at the bottom of a shit pit.
Now, come and fucking arrest me.
Posted by: Soona at September 25, 2012 11:37 AM (ooZjZ)
Posted by: Pipe Holder at September 25, 2012 11:37 AM (VTeUD)
with subsequent riot.
The Three Stooges?
Moe is "Mohammed" ... think about it.
Larry - Jew
Curly - Jew
Shemp - Jew
Curly Joe - Rosicrucian Esotericist.
_
Think. About. It.
_
Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 25, 2012 11:37 AM (RuUvx)
You have to appreciate the irony...or not.
Posted by: Exile at September 25, 2012 11:37 AM (GGCsk)
Okay- also not about Christianity, but Spanish Sovereignty. Well, European Sovereignty. Charles Martel and those who followed him cared more about keeping Spain in European hands than whether or not the people who ruled it were Christian.
Thus the reason they didn't kick out all of the Jews (Spain at that time even kind of liked them, IIRC) and Muslims (primarily Turks and Saracens, I think). They just fought until they won control of the land back.
The thing is, when you get down to it, most of "Christian Aggression" in history is neither Christian nor all that aggressive (in relative terms). The closest you get is the 3rd and 4th Crusades, and even those were more political than religious in nature. The only reason the various monarchs asked the Popes for declarations of Crusade was so they could convince their people to work together. Otherwise the French and the English were more likely to fight each other than the Islamic nations.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 11:37 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at September 25, 2012 11:37 AM (SDkq3)
Fuck you, you cocksucking, ass kissing, ball-less, brainless, spineless, butt fucking, narcissistic, egomaniacal, prick of SCOAMT.
Seriously, it may calm you down, the heavy metal fits. Whenever I get to the point I just want to shout obscenities at ahmedinerjacket, I just listen to this.
tinyurl.com/87xvl7w
If the future will not belong to those who slander Islam, no one told Exodus.
Posted by: entropy at September 25, 2012 11:38 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2012 11:38 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: mare at September 25, 2012 11:38 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Chris Matthews at September 25, 2012 11:38 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 25, 2012 11:39 AM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: USA at September 25, 2012 11:39 AM (RIg+t)
You sir just saved me a bunch of typing.
I bow before you.
Posted by: Exile at September 25, 2012 11:39 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: rockmom at September 25, 2012 11:39 AM (qE3AR)
The narrative being propounded via Libya is that the US and the West are fighting against an implacable Islamic enemy. It is so implacable that no distinction is made between the Iranian Shia and the Middle Eastern Sunni. These two groups hate each other but no distinction is made in current propaganda between them. Islam is supposed to be monolithic.
Nor, of course, is there any explanation forthcoming about the ridiculous film that the US administration blames for the violence. ... Nor is there any explanation forthcoming for the presence of Qatar troops that make up the bulk of security in Benghazi and elsewhere. Qatar virtually RUNS Libya at the behest of the US and NATO.
None of this is being made clear by Western mainstream fucking media, which keeps losing ads and clout because it is not truthful. Here's more from the New York Times:
"It's a catastrophic intelligence loss," said one American official who has served in Libya and who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the F.B.I. is still investigating the attack. "We got our eyes poked out."
The C.I.A.'s surveillance targets in Benghazi and eastern Libya include Ansar al-Sharia, a militia that some have blamed for the attack, as well as suspected members of Al Qaeda's affiliate in North Africa, known as Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.
Eastern Libya is also being buffeted by strong crosscurrents that intelligence operatives are trying to monitor closely. The killing of Mr. Stevens has ignited public anger against the militias, underscored on Friday when thousands of Libyans took to the streets of Benghazi to demand that the groups be disarmed. The makeup of militias varies widely; some are moderate, while others are ultraconservative Islamists known as Salafis.
Of course, the Salafis come out of Saudi Arabia and have links to Wahhabi fundamentalist Sunni. And Saudi Arabia is a US proxy. It is the US that has nurtured the fundamentalist idiocy of Wahhabism – which is nothing like ordinary – peaceful – Islam.
Wahhabism was cultivated to provide a dialectical opposite to the less radical Sunni approach espoused by such groups as the Muslim Brotherhood that the CIA is busy entrenching in almost every Islamic state it has recently overthrown – including Egypt and eventually, no doubt, Syria.
Whether the Muslim Brotherhood is then built up into a vociferous enemy of Western values remains to be seen. There are also signs that the Brotherhood is now being contrasted with fundamentalist Islam and is being portrayed as a more "reasonable" alternative.
What IS clear is that much of the current violence, like the wars themselves – and ultimately the phony war on terror itself – are being souped up by the West. It is hard to see through all the layers of lies but the idea that the CIA has lost its "eyes" because of the destruction of an apparently non-existent US embassy really doesn't pass the smell test.
It is evidence of the desperate arrogance of the US Intel community that after repeated exposures by the alternative media (that's us Morons) it simply does not seem to care anymore. The lies get bigger and more outrageous as Western powers-that-be push the Middle East toward whatever violent climax they have in mind.
Posted by: sickinmass at September 25, 2012 11:39 AM (CFi9O)
According to Islam, I slander the prophet of Islam every second that I profess my Chrisianity. They are the religion whose teachings are to convert by the sword if necessary.
This moral equivalence has always led those that are equalize to eventually bite us in the butt. They will never provide the same courtesy to us as we provide to them. Never.
Posted by: polynikes at September 25, 2012 11:39 AM (m2CN7)
Isn't this one of his strawmen?
Posted by: john b at September 25, 2012 03:18 PM (gqFy7)
To be fair, all of his strawmen look alike.
Posted by: MrCaniac at September 25, 2012 11:39 AM (pnIuS)
Posted by: the Butcher at September 25, 2012 11:40 AM (8g9qq)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2012 11:40 AM (jUytm)
"I got Bin Laden"
"Bin Laden is Dead, and GM is alive!"
So...gloating about killing Bin Laden, and then stationing a Gay Ambassador in an islamic country that is in turmoil...had nothing to do with it?
Muslims wouldn't be offended by those things, right?
It was all because of some obscure video.
Couldn't possibly have anything to do with Barky's own bad decisions.
Posted by: wheatie at September 25, 2012 11:40 AM (7KuzJ)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 25, 2012 11:41 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2012 11:41 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Mullaney at September 25, 2012 11:42 AM (1oiCk)
Posted by: Fickle Finger of Fate at September 25, 2012 03:36 PM (48wze)
Keep it down out there, people are trying to sleep!
Posted by: The 12th Imam at September 25, 2012 11:42 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 25, 2012 11:42 AM (ovpNn)
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him."
Damn those antisemitic stones and trees!
Posted by: USA at September 25, 2012 03:39 PM (RIg+t)
I'm pretty sure the tree in my backyard is a Christian.
Posted by: Craig Poe at September 25, 2012 11:42 AM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Inquiring Minds at September 25, 2012 11:42 AM (TVbdM)
Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2012 11:42 AM (6o4Fb)
It is time to heed the words of Gandhi: “Intolerance is itself a form of violence and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit.”
No, it's not. It's way past time to heed the words of that little ol' carpenter's son from Nazareth:
“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
--- Matthew 22: 36 - 40
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 25, 2012 11:42 AM (BAS5M)
those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated
It sounds like he's saying the images of Christ are the hate.
Nope. In fairness, syntactically he is referring "the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated," i.e., the entire phrase must be read together. "That" introduces a restrictive (i.e., defining) clause, so that he's not referring to those images that are NOT desecrated.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 25, 2012 11:43 AM (U+DUu)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 25, 2012 11:43 AM (ovpNn)
#281 Damn skippy. I slandered Mohammed last night when I attended my church Vestry meeting and said the Lord's Prayer during the Compline service.
Every Jew slanders Mohammed during every Sabbath prayer reciting "Shema Yisrael" , the Lord is our God, the Lord is One.
F these people. F Mohammed.
Posted by: rockmom at September 25, 2012 11:43 AM (NYnoe)
Obama Silent Over Calls to Denounce 'Piss Christ' Artwork
http://tinyurl.com/9zmw5kr
Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2012 11:43 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: The Spanish Inquisition! at September 25, 2012 11:44 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 25, 2012 11:44 AM (r4wIV)
Neville Chamberlain + Meathead Stivich + Robert Mugabe =
Barack Hussein Obama
You left out Dumbo the Elephant. Those ears gotta come from somewhere.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 25, 2012 11:44 AM (U+DUu)
Posted by: Lauren at September 25, 2012 11:44 AM (wsGWu)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2012 11:44 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: Mr Wonderful at September 25, 2012 11:44 AM (lD8ju)
Yeah he wasn't exactly a nice guy, all told. In fact, you might call him a community organizer. >_>
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 25, 2012 11:45 AM (rU+K8)
And say what exactly? Is there any constructive commentary a presidential candidate can add to this crap without sullying themselves?
The answer is no.
What can he do?
How about trounce him in November by continuing the long, hard siege.
Posted by: Exile at September 25, 2012 11:45 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2012 11:45 AM (jUytm)
"Although I might/may(?) be a Christian...." (I can't recall if he said "may" or "might".)
If he is trying to express that he, a Christian, has compassion or empathy for/with Muslims, why not say as a Christian?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2012 11:46 AM (piMMO)
The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.
And "Abdullah" means "slave of Allah."
Nice religion you got there.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 25, 2012 11:46 AM (U+DUu)
What good is staying on the economy is doing for Romney? Obama is beating him now on economic questions. The public believes the media's lies that the economy is roaring.
Posted by: Inquiring Minds at September 25, 2012 11:46 AM (TVbdM)
Posted by: Jon at September 25, 2012 11:46 AM (t1NLo)
I think I'll add a new mantra to my morning wake up routine, documented in an earlier thread:
*alarm goes off*
*MWR grumbles awake and turns off alarm*
*sits up, yawns, stretches*
"Fuck the unions. All of them. And fuck Islam on Satan's barbed cock."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 25, 2012 11:46 AM (4df7R)
tinyurl.com/87xvl7w
If the future will not belong to those who slander Islam, no one told Exodus.
Posted by: entropy at September 25, 2012 03:38 PM (TULs6)
My personal choice...
http://tinyurl.com/9r2wtjf
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 25, 2012 11:46 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: izoneguy at September 25, 2012 11:47 AM (oKH8p)
You sir just saved me a bunch of typing.
I've gotten into lots of arguments about this, so I've had lots of practice.
There is no moral equivalence between Christianity and Islam. Indeed, most people miss that Jews and Christians coexisted in peace (well, more or less) for centuries before Islam tried to take over Jerusalem and kill everyone who wasn't Muslim.
Even then, when they were just demanding that "being a 'person of the book' tax" (whatever the F they call it), the Christian Nations kept their noses out of it.
It wasn't until the Turks, Moors, and Saracens started killing pilgrims that the Christian Nations had a problem. Thus the Crusades.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 11:47 AM (8y9MW)
Romney's current strategy of being Obama's whipping boy isn't working. He needs to take off the gloves and hammer him.
Posted by: Inquiring Minds at September 25, 2012 11:47 AM (TVbdM)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2012 11:47 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2012 11:47 AM (piMMO)
I think Romney should steer clear of this whole mess.
I agree. It's not going to be a winner for Romney. If he were to come out and question the Messiahs speech to the UN, he would be skewered.He can however, keep reminding people that this administration botched the protection of An American Ambassador caucusing his death...
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 25, 2012 11:47 AM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: izoneguy at September 25, 2012 11:47 AM (oKH8p)
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 25, 2012 11:47 AM (GvYeG)
Posted by: Boudicca takes no prisoners at September 25, 2012 11:48 AM (4IKUP)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 25, 2012 11:48 AM (ovpNn)
And, the Bible clearly teaches against armed expansion of Christianity and forcing people into faith.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 25, 2012 11:48 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Beagle at September 25, 2012 11:49 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: izoneguy at September 25, 2012 11:49 AM (oKH8p)
"Although I might/may(?) be a Christian...." (I can't recall if he said "may" or "might".)
If he is trying to express that he, a Christian, has compassion or empathy for/with Muslims, why not say as a Christian?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2012 03:46 PM (piMMO)
Sorry, this is evidently my day to be pedantic, but again syntactically he's not implying any ambiguity about his religion, but merely implying that whether he's Christian or not is not critical to what he's about to say.
Jesus, now I'm defending Obama. I don't feel so good.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 25, 2012 11:49 AM (U+DUu)
"Ask not what your country can do for you" "tear down this wall" "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam"
Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2012 11:49 AM (wwsoB)
And "Abdullah" means "slave of Allah."
Nice religion you got there.
Interesting fact. "Abd" means both "slave" and "black." Which is another reason that I can't figure out why so many blacks convert to Islam. They HATE you, black Muslims. They really do.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at September 25, 2012 11:49 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Redd at September 25, 2012 11:50 AM (guxHP)
those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated
It sounds like he's saying the images of Christ are the hate.
Nope. In fairness, syntactically he is referring "the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated,"i.e., the entire phrase must be read together."That" introduces a restrictive (i.e., defining) clause, so that he's not referring to those images that are NOT desecrated.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 25, 2012 03:43 PM (U+DUu)
I think he's saying the Christians who protest are the 'haters'.
Posted by: Craig Poe at September 25, 2012 11:50 AM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2012 11:50 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Fritz at September 25, 2012 11:50 AM (/ZZCn)
Posted by: tasker at September 25, 2012 11:51 AM (r2PLg)
http://tinyurl.com/9zmw5kr
Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2012 03:43 PM (wwsoB)
Its been said before, but a more apt example of hypocrisy is the embrace of the Broadway play, Book of Mormon. I think Hillary Clinton indicated she loved it.
Posted by: polynikes at September 25, 2012 11:51 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2012 11:51 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: Fritz at September 25, 2012 03:50 PM (/ZZCn)
Posted by: Zombie Johnny Carson at September 25, 2012 11:51 AM (BVkEs)
@181
Yeah, you beat me to it. Nothing really notable here, just the usual blah, blah, blah, with this seemingly provacative quote being taken out of context (for real - not like in his "out of context" defense of "You didn't build that," which was a blatant lie).
He also throws in his post-partisan and "moment" rhetoric:
"It is time to leave the call of violence and the politics of division behind. ... We must seize this moment. ... The future must not belong to those who target Coptic Christians in Egypt – it must be claimed by those in Tahrir Square who chanted “Muslims, Christians, we are one.” The future must not belong to those who bully women – it must be shaped by girls who go to school, and those who stand for a world where our daughters can live their dreams just like our sons. ... The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. But to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated, or churches that are destroyed, or the Holocaust that is denied. Let us condemn incitement against Sufi Muslims, and Shia pilgrims. ..."
OTOH, he doesn't say that the future doesn't belong to those who slander CHrist, either.
Posted by: Optimizer at September 25, 2012 11:51 AM (As94z)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 25, 2012 11:51 AM (ovpNn)
335 "Crusade" is only a bad word when applied to Christians.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2012 03:50 PM (piMMO)
All words are bad when applied to Christians according to these.....*deep breaths*....people.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 25, 2012 11:51 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 25, 2012 11:51 AM (o/7Bl)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2012 11:52 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: Jon at September 25, 2012 11:52 AM (/YJYi)
Seems to happen every generation, though.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 25, 2012 11:52 AM (r4wIV)
I think Romney should steer clear of this whole mess.
9 out of 10 Americans have not a clue what's going on over there, over here, any where, nor do they care a wit.
Stay on the economy.
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See I feel like none of these dumbasses knows anything about the economy either.
Posted by: USS Diversity at September 25, 2012 11:52 AM (0CiTm)
Spanish Inquisition was also about Spanish Sovereignty. Albeit under the guise of Christianity, so I'll probably have to allow that one. But the Papal Inquisition was much more restrained (relatively speaking) and stuck better to the spirit of the rules, whereas the Spaniards observed only the letter. More or less.
Notice that the Spanish Inquisition answered to the Spanish Crown, the Papal Inquisition answered to the Pope.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 11:52 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Fritz at September 25, 2012 03:50 PM (/ZZCn)
That is some funny, funny stuff....
Posted by: Zombie Johnny Carson at September 25, 2012 11:52 AM (BVkEs)
In other words, has 50% of our country just committed itself to dhimmitude, including the most influential parts -- media, academia, and the politically correct rich?
Posted by: edj at September 25, 2012 11:52 AM (+QKfp)
Posted by: AJP at September 25, 2012 11:52 AM (KHo8t)
There is no god but Roger Goodell and Ed Hochuli is his prophet!
Posted by: VW Zao at September 25, 2012 11:52 AM (I7O5y)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at September 25, 2012 11:52 AM (EtvVh)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 25, 2012 03:48 PM (ovpNn)
Or her clothes on when a camera was around...
Yep. We have the first POTUS in history with naked pictures of Mommy floating all over the Internet. Try to imagine a Republican candidate with such a liability and having to answer the questions from the kneepad media about Slutty, Naked Mommy.
Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at September 25, 2012 11:52 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: tasker at September 25, 2012 11:52 AM (r2PLg)
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If you are one who has repeatedly had his faith questioned, then a clearer statement about your own faith might/may be a better idea.
You give him too much credit.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2012 11:52 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Stuttering Clusterfuck Of A Miserable Failure at September 25, 2012 11:53 AM (l8nIR)
THIS.
I note with interest that it wasn't rogue bands of Swedish Lutherans who flew planes into the WTC on 9/11, or who are currently busy blowing themselves up all over the planet.
Although I wouldn't put it past 'em, the dirty icebacks...
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 11:53 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: USA at September 25, 2012 11:53 AM (RIg+t)
Posted by: Fickle Finger of Fate at September 25, 2012 11:53 AM (48wze)
Somewhere, a 3rd-rate state cow college is missing an Assistant Vice Provost for Diversity and Inclusion.
Posted by: joncelli at September 25, 2012 11:53 AM (RD7QR)
I can't figure out why so many blacks convert to Islam. They HATE you, black Muslims. They really do.
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Friends of mine, native Arabic speakers, used to tell me how certain Al-Jazeera correspondents would run editorials on American NOI adherents, and sneeringly refer to them as pseudo-Muslims.
Posted by: kallisto at September 25, 2012 11:54 AM (jm/9g)
Posted by: edj at September 25, 2012 11:54 AM (+QKfp)
Posted by: rockmom at September 25, 2012 11:54 AM (qE3AR)
Posted by: KayInMaine at September 25, 2012 11:54 AM (/Aauo)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 25, 2012 03:48 PM (r4wIV)
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As a matter of fact Jesus' instructions to his disciples was to go into a city and tell the people what you know, and if they accept, then celebrate. If they refuse your message, then wipe the dust of that city off your sandals and move on.
Posted by: Soona at September 25, 2012 11:54 AM (ooZjZ)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2012 11:54 AM (jUytm)
Me neither
Posted by: kbdabear at September 25, 2012 11:54 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 11:54 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: obamatroll at September 25, 2012 11:55 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: jakeman at September 25, 2012 11:55 AM (96M6e)
You are absolutely correct. You are also the first person in my entire life that I can recall who actually knew that.
Tough to defend the Church when so many people are convinced they know stuff that isn't true.
I tip my hat to you, Sir.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 11:55 AM (sbV1u)
I think he's saying the Christians who protest are the 'haters'.
No, I don't think so.
"we must ... condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated"
He's saying that the desecration of images of Jesus Christ show the hatred of Christianity (of those who desecrated the images), and must condemn that hate.
I'm no Obama fan, God knows, but what he said on this particular score (desecration of Christian images) was perfectly reasonable. He's trying to draw the equivalence between such desecration and criticism ("slander," as he calls it) of Islam. It's at this second point that he loses me.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 25, 2012 11:56 AM (U+DUu)
Posted by: Barry Houdini Obama at September 25, 2012 11:56 AM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Jon :( at September 25, 2012 11:56 AM (susfU)
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Only...only... in as much as they are directly impacted. And, by "directly" I mean, do they see it in their paycheck?
The issues with the economy have an impact to each of us through the cost of food and gas and the cost of our benefits which are paid by our employer yet, unless there are fewer dollars in their paycheck, most assume they are doing just fine.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2012 11:56 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2012 11:56 AM (TMB3S)
That was the conclusion reached last year when the Smithsonian displayed a video of ants swarming a crucifix and some Catholics objected...anyone who thought the federal government shouldn't be promoting anti-Christian art was just an anti-gay H8rz.
And now, anyone who thinks the government shouldn't be prosecuting anti-Muslim art is just a H8rz.
Sigh.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at September 25, 2012 11:57 AM (/kI1Q)
Someone posted a quote recently, I don't remember who said it or the exact words, but the gist of it was: You shall know who is the most powerful God, or leader, by knowing which one you are not allowed to criticize.
Obama just declared Allah the most powerful God.
Posted by: rockmom at September 25, 2012 11:57 AM (NYnoe)
Posted by: tasker at September 25, 2012 11:57 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: steevy at September 25, 2012 11:57 AM (6o4Fb)
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Coal, baby!
There's no way in heck so-called "green energy" can keep up with the demand.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2012 11:57 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 25, 2012 11:58 AM (jUytm)
Sadly, I was kind of aware of that in High School, but it didn't really sink in until I read Eric Flint's Ring of Fire books.
Note- don't read them for the History, they're not History books. But they get enough right that you can use them to guide actual historical inquiries using real history texts.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 11:58 AM (8y9MW)
Also, like ChristyBlinky above, I can't stand the sight or sound of Obama. I plan to DVR the debates and fast forward through O's parts. If (when) he says something idiotic, it'll be reported somewhere online. I've never had a visceral reaction to anyone like I have towards O. I wonder if the people with BDS were the same, where they literally couldn't stand to watch or listen to Bush.
Posted by: Mayday at September 25, 2012 11:58 AM (F3s39)
Posted by: Adnan Aya Aknar III at September 25, 2012 11:59 AM (eavT+)
If you are one who has repeatedly had his faith questioned, then a clearer statement about your own faith might/may be a better idea.
You give him too much credit.
Yeah, probably. I was just interpreting the plain language of what was said, without reference to the back story of the speaker.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 25, 2012 11:59 AM (U+DUu)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2012 11:59 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at September 25, 2012 11:59 AM (bnAKg)
Posted by: The Prophet (Goats be upon him) at September 25, 2012 11:59 AM (pMGkg)
Posted by: USS Diversity at September 25, 2012 11:59 AM (0CiTm)
Posted by: TexasJew at September 25, 2012 11:59 AM (lD8ju)
Isn't Christianity and Judaism's very existence supposed to be an affront to Islam?
Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at September 25, 2012 12:00 PM (L4CWX)
393377 "Mary Had a Little Lamb" insults the the most honorable, lovable, prophet Mohammad.
I thought it was a love song.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 25, 2012 12:01 PM (U+DUu)
Ah.... but the REAL point is that if you cannot cry out at somthing because it belongs to another culture, that culture will never change...
Evil MUST be pointed out, and fought.... not made the equal of good...
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 25, 2012 12:01 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Illini bill at September 25, 2012 12:01 PM (IaK/H)
I'd turn that around.
You know who the weakest God is by which one you're not allowed to criticize. Any religion which cannot withstand scrutiny is one which is not very confident in its message.
If God is the author of all truth, after all, then what does he have to fear from a bunch of puny humans wondering whether or not his message is true?
Seems to me that Allah has an inferiority complex.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 25, 2012 12:01 PM (sbV1u)
People have a lot of misconceptions about the crusades. Not only was the first crusade pretty reasonable (basically it was to stop Islamic expansion), but only the first couple were remotely related to religion, let alone some bizarre distortion of Christianity.
Dude, the biggest of all misconceptions is that Christendom won any of them. Take a look at Christendom before and after the Crusades. Hey, what the hell...
Posted by: entropy at September 25, 2012 12:01 PM (TULs6)
Obama just declared Allah the most powerful God.
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I couldn't disagree more strongly.
I know that if every Bible on Earth is destroyed, the word of God will live on through His believers. I know that no matter how many crucifixes are dipped in urine or how many blasphemers roam the Earth, God's promise is yet stronger.
Our God does not require that we walk on eggshells to receive His grace.
Our God and our faith are so strong that no other religion can destroy it.
The same, apparently, cannot be said of Islam and its followers.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2012 12:02 PM (piMMO)
Can we provide each Fox News on-air personality with a Moron tutor to help him or her grok conservatism a little more each day?
Who wants to tutor Shepard Smith?
Posted by: edj at September 25, 2012 12:03 PM (+QKfp)
Notice that the Spanish Inquisition answered to the Spanish Crown, the Papal Inquisition answered to the Pope.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 25, 2012 03:52 PM (8y9MW)
You're only part right on the Spanish Inquisition. When it was controlled by the crown it did get out of hand. But when it first began it was controlled by the Church and answered to the Pope, and later on it again had its control returned to it. Here's an article you might like "The Truth about The Spanish Inquisition" by Thomas Madden.
Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at September 25, 2012 12:03 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Redd at September 25, 2012 12:04 PM (guxHP)
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ANYONE who is not a follower of Islam is an affront.
By the pen or by the sword...
All shall convert or all shall die that no other faith should exist.
It reminds me of Saddam's political philosophy: If a person is a problem then no person equals no problem.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2012 12:05 PM (piMMO)
Can we provide each Fox News on-air personality with a Moron tutor to help him or her grok conservatism a little more each day?
Posted by: edj at September 25, 2012 04:03 PM
Not me, I'm Looking Out for The Folks!!!
Posted by: Bill O'Butthead, lookin' out for The Folks at September 25, 2012 12:06 PM (wwsoB)
Can we provide each Fox News on-air personality with a Moron tutor to help him or her grok conservatism a little more each day?
Who wants to tutor Shepard Smith?
Posted by: edj at September 25, 2012 04:03 PM
Shut up! I'm a Great American !!
Posted by: HANNITY!!! at September 25, 2012 12:07 PM (wwsoB)
Okay here's where I get confused Mr. President. You invoke the founding of the United Nations as an example of "all of us have a stake in working towards greater opportunity and security for our citizens," and then say in your words "we must speak honestly about the deeper causes of this crisis. Because we face a choice between the forces that would drive us apart, and the hopes we hold in common."
The problem becomes one of your favorite "false choices". "Today, we must declare that this violence and intolerance has no place among our United Nations."
See Barack the problem is that you either have freedom or you don't how far one uses and abuses freedom is up to the individual, and unless they are doing unarguable public harm in the exercise thereof such as abuse of a child, enforced servitude inflicted we have a duty to not interfere by means of governmental control. Sure you can use social and peer pressure as an individual to influence but even that is without limit. You are equating murder with intolerance. You pay lip service to the idea that "we reject uncontrolled violence" but even that is loaded you are not vocally condemning "controlled political violence" or coercion through law or use of state sanctioned discrimination. The violation of sanctity of though and expression is abominable and frankly I must tell you YOU DISGUST me for your inability to decry coercive intent.
That speech in trying to curry calm & understanding from the violent culture that attacked our embassies for the utilization of a freedom you swore an oath to uphold and & defend *is* the false choice you so often use as a crutch. You do not have to apologize for offense to say that you understand their anger. You simply had to assert the invioability of our Diplomatic mission or the cessation of all further diplomatic contact until a resolution occurs. That was ALL that was called for nothing more. You go on to invoke the historic nature and precedent for our freedom w/out personalizing it & accept verbally that "we do not expect the same of you" to a world at large undermining the moral nature of arguing for freedom of speech
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. Yet to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn hate we see when the image of Jesus Christ is desecrated, churches are destroyed, or the Holocaust is denied."
It's kind of fuzzy Barack did you just argue that Democrats and Evangelical Atheists are not allowed to be the future? If so I am even more against you. You accept money from Bill Maher who takes glee blaspheming my faith and you invoke yourself as a moral light in picking what is and is not "acceptable" WRT faith? "Really"?
How's about YOU argue the American perspective on liberty for a change & accept that we as a people got a lot right before you drew your first breath and sanctity and invioability of faith and speech from government are one of those things. You incentivized more bad behavior for the Radical Muslims to try to game the hecklers' veto. You delivered nice words on the death of an American diplomat and then spoke in a way that should have terrified every lover of liberty as practiced here for ~220 years.
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 25, 2012 12:07 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Scowlly McScolderson, FLOTUS De Luxe at September 25, 2012 12:07 PM (QMRMM)
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Say CHEEEESE!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2012 12:08 PM (piMMO)
Bottom line. Islam has been violent since its inception. Long before the crusades.There are only 2 houses, peace and war. You belong to one or the other. Whether through armed conflict, or demographic take over, dominance is the stated goal.
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 25, 2012 12:10 PM (GvYeG)
So the SCOAMF has essentially told us it's become a Muslim or be sent off to the re-education camp in his future.
Fuck you very much, Mr. President.
Posted by: epobirs at September 25, 2012 12:11 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 25, 2012 03:32 PM (TIIx5)
I caught that, too.
Posted by: Flounder at September 25, 2012 12:12 PM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: irright at September 25, 2012 12:12 PM (pMGkg)
Posted by: edj at September 25, 2012 04:03 PM
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Not me.
I'll take Kilmeade!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 25, 2012 12:14 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Brad at September 25, 2012 12:15 PM (2GsJg)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at September 25, 2012 12:17 PM (ixtRS)
Posted by: @PurpAv at September 25, 2012 12:17 PM (Q+WQU)
Posted by: Average Jon at September 25, 2012 12:18 PM (aHR5E)
Posted by: The President as a composite a la his book characters at September 25, 2012 12:18 PM (4eNxd)
* "target" Coptic Christians: actual violence
* "bully" women: actual violence
Then he switches into Full Socialist Dhimmi Mode:
* "steal" resources (an imaginary crime, a class warfare reference)
* "slander" the prophet of Islam (not a crime at all--it's called freedom of speech and religion)
Posted by: edj at September 25, 2012 12:18 PM (+QKfp)
Posted by: Pastorius at September 25, 2012 12:21 PM (r2evj)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2012 12:22 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: palooka at September 25, 2012 12:22 PM (sQ64J)
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Memorizing gets easier and easier. Wait 'til Obama crosses out the Second Amendment.
And that 22nd amendment about the President getting only two terms, that's just taking up space in my brain! Mr. President, please do something!
Posted by: edj at September 25, 2012 12:25 PM (+QKfp)
And I hate to be negative.
Posted by: Barack Obama at September 25, 2012 12:29 PM (+QKfp)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at September 25, 2012 12:39 PM (9eDbm)
Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at September 25, 2012 12:45 PM (jCQ+I)
Posted by: Burke at September 25, 2012 12:46 PM (9N3G1)
Barry recognizes the "prophet of Islam" but the status of Jesus Christ is unmentioned. In the quote above, there is a recognition of Islam, but not of Christianity or Judaism.. No moral equivalence this time. Christianity? Judaism? Buehler?
Like Niedemeyer said above, the Sharia blasphemy laws have led to the deaths of tens of thousands of non-Muslims and condemned the rest to dhimmitude. That's a lot to put on the shoulders of a third-rate YouTube video.
Posted by: nrp at September 25, 2012 12:55 PM (HjPtV)
"Like me, the majority of Americans are Christian, and yet we do not ban blasphemy against our most sacred beliefs. Moreover, as President of our country, and Commander-in-Chief of our military, I accept that people are going to call me awful things every day, and I will always defend their right to do so." BHO
Sure, Obama will protect the right to uncomplimentary free speech -- exercised from prison or dumped in the grave.
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 25, 2012 01:01 PM (BAnPT)
Posted by: Doo Daa Man at September 25, 2012 01:11 PM (/otr2)
Posted by: gm at September 25, 2012 01:33 PM (/kBoL)
Posted by: George Allen at September 25, 2012 01:41 PM (jfWE9)
Speak of today's inbred violence in making comparisons regarding those alive now. Regarding the USA, I don't buy the guilt tripe that I am to blame for what wrongs other people have chosen to do, especially when I argue on behalf of constitutional integrity and against corruption, particularly when incidents happened long before I was ever born.
Generations ago remains history, unless of course your religion makes no distinction in "time". On that point, paleo-Hebrew verbs are said to make no distinction in "time" -- no past, present or future tense. And the Torah must never deviate when reprinted. To the degree that history remains relevant as having never changed in culture/society, notice which religions argue that God changes v. others that stipulate God is unchanging? The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Why should our government and our military determine to "solve" that or any such question, without Congress having first determined to declare war? Unfortunately, no one holds the monopoly on deceit, and no one holds the monopoly on self-righteous bigotry.
Regarding the Coptic dogma in Egypt, their indigenous Christians traditionally separated church from state/politics, taking Jesus' "give to Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's" advice literally. Having found their "balance", dhimmitude functioned so long as their financial tax for being not-Muslim covered their protection under government. The Coptics have been protected by Musharraf and by their Muslim friends and neighbors BEFORE the US leaders & media encouraged and enacted the destruction of Egypt as a leader in the region, and erased our alliance with Musharraf's Egypt.
The recent US administrations willfully destabilized all of the Middle East, Obama gambling on enhancing the "Arab Spring" which, promoting the Saudi Wahhabi Muslim Brotherhood and al-Qaeda, effects the genocide policy against the indigenous Jews, Christians and many other minority religious peoples in Muslim nations. Our taxes are funding genocide even while weakening our own Constitution, no thanks to politicians. When we refuse to function constitutionally, we've lost the finest, best balanced means for governance ever devised.
Missing from Obama's Administration Mission Statement:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 25, 2012 01:43 PM (BAnPT)
Nov. 6th cannot come soon enough. I hope Romney is against this "blasphemy law" movement that O is pushing. But it's hard to tell since Romney is completely SILENT on this matter (please correct me if I'm wrong) and he was an a$$ to Pastor Terry Jones in '10 -- not telling him *not* to burn the Koran in so many words, but putting the deaths of soldiers on Terry Jones' hands. Doesn't fill me with a lot of confidence.
I really hate when Muslim sympathizers like O pretend they care about Christians being offended, too; he only adds that to get more on his side. I'm a Christian and I would rather put up with "Piss Christ" than have my freedom of speech taken away (just as long as the display of it isn't at tax-payer expense).
Posted by: Aslan's Girl who still loves me some Rick Perry! at September 25, 2012 01:48 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl who still loves me some Rick Perry! at September 25, 2012 01:54 PM (KL49F)
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Posted by: Firing the Dhimmi in the White House in November at September 26, 2012 03:49 AM (1mmlZ)
Really? When was the last time Christians, Jews, ‘infidels’ and unbelievers reciprocated and meted out some payback for all of the atrocities and the defamation at the hands of muslims? I’m not talking about the usual protest, demonstration, lighting up a koran, and verbal hell raising. I mean burning down some mosques, a few bombings, and maybe a little beheading or two. Something that would get under Obama’s Dhimmi skin for a change.
Radical muslims are the ones carrying out all of the violence and all he can do is trivialize their victims’ anger; the embassy attack in Libya wouldn’t have happened if it weren’t for ‘intolerance’. There’s no fucking similarity between mocking a 7th Century lunatic prophet and the Holocaust.
The “outrage” was sparked by a pre-planned wave of attacks from Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood, not a poorly-made obscure video. And about taking offense to the anti-Islamic film: Most Americans couldn’t care less about ‘offending’ the sensibilities of perpetually outraged towel heads who use their theocracy as a reason to commit atrocities.
The world wide attacks by ‘tolerant’ muslims don’t faze Obama a bit. Which makes the coming election that much more important.
Posted by: SFC MAC at September 26, 2012 03:53 AM (jLUk8)
Obama: "The future must not belong to those who slander Islam."
Muslims: "We agree completely. That's why we're killing those who slander Islam."
Posted by: Vercingetorix at September 26, 2012 07:16 AM (uotAu)
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