April 23, 2012
— Ace Moral weaklings and cowards are always tempted by tyranny.
[I]ncreasingly in recent months, the administration has been seeking ways to act without Congress. Branding its unilateral efforts “We Can’t Wait,” a slogan that aides said Mr. Obama coined at that strategy meeting, the White House has rolled out dozens of new policies — on creating jobs for veterans, preventing drug shortages, raising fuel economy standards, curbing domestic violence and more.Each time, Mr. Obama has emphasized the fact that he is bypassing lawmakers. When he announced a cut in refinancing fees for federally insured mortgages last month, for example, he said: “If Congress refuses to act, I’ve said that I’ll continue to do everything in my power to act without them.”
Aides say many more such moves are coming. Not just a short-term shift in governing style and a re-election strategy, Mr. ObamaÂ’s increasingly assertive use of executive action could foreshadow pitched battles over the separation of powers in his second term, should he win and Republicans consolidate their power in Congress.
Even The Bureaucracy Is Squealing, But The Times Utters Not a Squeak: Obama created, per his own unlimited executive power, an $8.3 slush fund to mitigate the effect of his passed-by-law cuts to Medicare Advantage. These cuts would be unpopular, and Obama wants to delay the pain -- and thus the electoral hit -- until after the election.
But now the General Accounting Office says this slush fund needs to be canceled.
In a rebuke to the Obama administration, government auditors are calling for the cancellation of an $8 billion Medicare program that congressional Republicans have criticized as a political ploy....
GAO, the investigative agency of Congress, did not address GOP allegations that the bonuses are politically motivated. But, its report found the program highly unusual. It “dwarfs” all other Medicare pilots undertaken in nearly 20 years, the GAO said.
...
Available through 2014, the bonuses will soften much of the initial impact of the Medicare Advantage cuts, acting like a temporary reprieve.
This year, for example, the bonus program offset more than two-thirds of the cuts in the health care law. Indeed, Medicare Advantage enrollment is up by 10 percent and premiums have gone down on average.
But GAO questioned whether the bonus program will achieve its goal of finding better incentives to promote quality. “The design of the demonstration precludes a credible evaluation of its effectiveness in achieving (the administration’s) stated research goal.”
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“The Obama administration seems to be using a technicality to sidestep Congress and write itself a blank check to spend more money for political purposes leading into this year’s elections,” Hatch said in a statement.
“The White House does not have the authority to green-light spending on whatever program it wants,” he added. “This report is just the beginning — I will be demanding answers.”
So, although Obama cast this unconstitutionally-commanded slush fund as for purposes of research, the GAO determined it had no research potential, and furthermore "dwarfed" all previous research pilot programs.
So it wasn't for research -- it was for votes.
And Obama claimed the power to order it on his own authority.
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Posted by: Lady in Black at April 23, 2012 06:34 AM (tfw18)
Posted by: blaster at April 23, 2012 06:35 AM (7vSU0)
High energy prices...
High inflation...
High unemployment...
All yours, Champ!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at April 23, 2012 06:35 AM (lce0m)
Posted by: McLovin at April 23, 2012 06:35 AM (21lfy)
Posted by: blaster at April 23, 2012 06:35 AM (7vSU0)
Posted by: Vic at April 23, 2012 10:31 AM
Amen, brother Vic.
The wimp-ification of the Republicans in Congress, aided by their water-carriers ("Poppin' Fresh," the NRO crowd, et. al.) means we are supposed to follow the McCain approach to calling attention to Bark Obama's many high crimes and misdemeanors.
"It's not a felony, hatred for America or an attack on the Constitution...it's an Obamateurism!!11!!!
That won't save the spineless hacks when the stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable traitor decides it's time for all dissent to end.
Posted by: MrScribbler at April 23, 2012 06:36 AM (MQc8e)
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 23, 2012 10:34 AM (tfw1
No way. We're going to have a cry-in to show just how bad we feel about it.
Posted by: John Boehner at April 23, 2012 06:36 AM (v+QvA)
Would it be better for Congress to simply refute his actions and wait for him to be impeached in November?
Posted by: fluffy at April 23, 2012 06:36 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: ace at April 23, 2012 06:38 AM (nj1bB)
Posted by: willow at April 23, 2012 06:39 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: long island at April 23, 2012 06:39 AM (kzp9t)
Posted by: NYTimes at April 23, 2012 06:40 AM (NG097)
Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at April 23, 2012 06:41 AM (RD7QR)
Mr. ObamaÂ’s increasingly assertive use of executive action could foreshadow pitched battles over the separation of powers in his second term, should he win and Republicans consolidate their power in Congress.
There should be no "could foreshadow" about it! He is openly and blatantly overstepping his powers of office, and he has absolutely no shame about doing so. The American President is not a ruler who rules by decree and dictat, dammit. He is one part of a co-equal branch of the government. When is someone with a little clout from the Judiciary or the Legislature going to stand up, take away his pen and make him sit in the corner wearing a dunce cap like the petulant ne'er-do-well he is?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at April 23, 2012 06:41 AM (4df7R)
This is a lie. Like everything else with regards to Obama's rhetoric and style (Devel Patrick's speeches, Bob the Builder's slogan, his campaign logo), it is stolen. Clearly it is lifted from the "The World Can't Wait" communist front group.
Posted by: TomInKorea at April 23, 2012 06:42 AM (Y/s90)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 23, 2012 06:42 AM (Qo3AQ)
They all think they're going to be the ones deciding how much bread us mouth-breathin' teabaggerz are gonna get every month. None of them can admit there is nothing special about themselves--that they're gonna be one of the huddled masses standing in line for toilet paper just like the rest of us.
If they're not Aktion T-4'd out of the system, anyway. In hardcore socialism, you gotta work to eat. Gonna be a big shock for the fourth-generation food stamp crowd.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at April 23, 2012 06:44 AM (/kI1Q)
To the extent they see themselves as a political class, with POTUS being a member, rather than representatives of We The People, yes they will let him do it.
Posted by: Retread at April 23, 2012 06:44 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: willow at April 23, 2012 06:45 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at April 23, 2012 06:45 AM (YmPwQ)
Large majority saying yes! We want a socialist dictator!
I can't bear to read the comments at the NYT. I lose all hope for this country. And then I take a deep breath and realize their readership is made up of left-wing nut jobs who get their "news" from the Daily Show and MSNBC.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 23, 2012 06:46 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: willow at April 23, 2012 10:39 AM (TomZ9)
Not only attacked him but went into his government records to dig up shit on him. Some posters over the weekend stated that one thing that separates us from a banana republic is that we don't go after the previous administration as far as incarcerating them for political differences. The donks have taken full advantage of this in extremely subversive ways that go way beyond Repub malfeasance imo. I would argue that the actions of the current administration and its enablers more closely resemble a third world dictatorship.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 23, 2012 06:47 AM (4atNB)
"The Congressional Republicans made it clear that a default by the United States was not a concern to them. The collapse of the American Auto industry is not their concern. They can not even support the theory of evolution. More examples of their intransigence and pandering to the ignorant abound."
We'd like to schedule you for an interview.
Posted by: BarkyO Information Agency Ltd. at April 23, 2012 06:47 AM (0It32)
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2012 06:47 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: phoenixgirl secretary and now walmart checker!! at April 23, 2012 06:48 AM (Ho2rs)
I'm just concerned that when the writing on the wall hits 7200 point, just how desperate -- just what Plan B do they have in store for us?
Well, Plan A has worked quite well for them. For the rest of the country, not so much.
Perhaps President Romney will take advantage of his new-found powers to roll back everything the SCOAMF has done, before working with Congress to reign in most of that power and start placing some genuine Constitutional restrictions on the office.
How did we manage to allow our enemies into office in the first place?
</rhetorical question>
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 23, 2012 06:48 AM (d0Tfm)
1. A matchstick.
2. A skyscraper.
A matchstick takes an instant to fall over, but the skyscraper takes far longer and you can see it happen.
Posted by: EC at April 23, 2012 06:48 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2012 06:49 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 23, 2012 06:49 AM (i6RpT)
Just an interesting tactic, the way they report it. Posted by: ace at April 23, 2012 10:38 AM (nj1bB) Same as when they were reporting his comments about the Trayvon Martin shooting. Not just the NYT, but the MFM in general essentially reported the story as, "The President made some comments today about the tragic death of Trayvon Martin. How might this affect his poll numbers?" As if his comments weren't completely inappropriate and inflammatory. Nope, just another tactic to garner some votes in the minority community. I must here reiterate my utter loathing for the word "community."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at April 23, 2012 06:50 AM (4df7R)
I think it involves a lot of paper shredders, demagnetizers, "lost" documents, and high voltage zaps to memory sticks.
They got 8 months left to erase all the stuff that could put them in Federal prison. The smart money says they've already been at it for at least 4.
But they'll be doing a rush job and make mistakes...
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 23, 2012 06:51 AM (Qo3AQ)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 23, 2012 06:52 AM (1/eF6)
Posted by: soothie at April 23, 2012 06:53 AM (oB2II)
Posted by: zmdavid at April 23, 2012 06:53 AM (3/elW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 23, 2012 06:54 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2012 06:54 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: benson at April 23, 2012 06:54 AM (k8v1W)
I think it involves a lot of paper shredders, demagnetizers, "lost" documents, and high voltage zaps to memory sticks.
I can almost guarantee you that there is an intern or some other staffer who has been keeping a secret paper file of any and all internal memos and minutes, so that when the SHTF he or she can turn state's evidence before s/he gets sold down the river by their superiors.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at April 23, 2012 06:55 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: eman at April 23, 2012 06:55 AM (YrBvI)
Posted by: soothie at April 23, 2012 06:55 AM (vzLhi)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 23, 2012 10:52 AM (1/eF6)
That's GOT to be the most awesome autocorrect FAIL in political obstructionist history.
From now on, we are all obstructiIndians. Wear the term well.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at April 23, 2012 06:57 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 23, 2012 06:57 AM (8y9MW)
Barry can't even make the trains run on time.
Posted by: toby928© at April 23, 2012 10:57 AM (NG097)
Trains remind him too much of the eeeeeevil colonialism of Great Britain in his daddy's Africa.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at April 23, 2012 06:59 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: think (sewer) tanks at April 23, 2012 07:00 AM (HOOye)
Posted by: eman at April 23, 2012 07:01 AM (YrBvI)
I'd say we got off cheap. Not much they can do with nine bucks.
Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at April 23, 2012 07:01 AM (1H47k)
Posted by: blaster at April 23, 2012 07:02 AM (7vSU0)
Neo-feudalists, and they would have him as High King.
And I despair for America, in general, ever waking up- let alone waking up before it's too late to fix.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 23, 2012 07:03 AM (8y9MW)
White House has rolled out dozens of new policies — on creating jobs for veterans, preventing drug shortages, raising fuel economy standards, curbing domestic violence...
I love how the Times cuts and pastes from the White House news releases in describing these actions. Usually, Professional Journalists describe the actual government action - not the rhetorical intent of a government action.
Posted by: CJ at April 23, 2012 07:04 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: think (sewer) tanks at April 23, 2012 07:04 AM (HOOye)
Posted by: BBC at April 23, 2012 07:04 AM (NG097)
Armed robbery is an interesting, if somewhat risky, entrepreneurial vocation.
Posted by: NYTimes at April 23, 2012 10:40 AM (NG097)
It helps if you *forget* that Armed Robbery is illegal.
Posted by: Steve Martin at April 23, 2012 07:04 AM (tQoT4)
He cannot pardon himself. So if he does something blatantly criminal before then, he can be prosecuted.
I for one, will be grateful to be rid of him and his whole crony socialism administration.
Posted by: Jimbo at April 23, 2012 07:06 AM (O3R/2)
Posted by: MAJHAM at April 23, 2012 07:07 AM (iwbZd)
I'm sure that's one function of that room full of juiceboxers in that pic of his campaign office
Posted by: kbdabear at April 23, 2012 07:07 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: toby928© at April 23, 2012 07:07 AM (NG097)
Posted by: EC at April 23, 2012 07:08 AM (GQ8sn)
Speaking of impeachment...the Pubs would do well (lol, I know) to have impeachment papers drawn up and ready to be served the day after the election. If Obama loses, especially a blowout, his lame-duck session will be scorched-earth to the nth degree. Better to have the semi-retarded Biden in there for 3 months. Build him a sandbox.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at April 23, 2012 07:08 AM (YmPwQ)
I'm just waiting for his to start using "we" as his personal pronoun
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 23, 2012 07:08 AM (0q2P7)
I bet I could find $5.00 to chip in for bail.
Besides, as long as you're not somewhere you aren't supposed to be, and you're not actually saying anything- it's all protected speech, right? I wonder if you could get one of those Obama-Face Flags and burn it.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 23, 2012 07:09 AM (8y9MW)
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama says atrocities against peoples across the globe begin with daily ignorance and intolerance and that the world must not allow such "seeds of hate" to take root again.
Obama spoke at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, his first such appearance as president. He was announcing a plan to impose sanctions against foreign entities, chiefly Iran and Syria, who use technology to crackdown on dissidents.
Obama broadly defended his government's steps to halt mass killings during his three-plus years in office.
He said "we have saved countless lives."
Coming from a man who spreads hate for his fellow citizens and makes threats against them that's rich. He's saved countless lives just like jobs created or saved.
In a warning to other nations, the president said that national sovereignty is never a license to "slaughter your people."
Unless it's abortion
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2012 07:11 AM (1Jaio)
Can you really say a heroin addict was "tempted" by the heroin, when they never had even the passing thought of *not* shooting up?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 23, 2012 07:11 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: soothie at April 23, 2012 07:11 AM (yhYn1)
Posted by: toby928© at April 23, 2012 11:07 AM (NG097)
Hell, it's how I view an Obama cabinet meeting
Posted by: Jones in CO at April 23, 2012 07:12 AM (8sCoq)
The best way to invalidate our Constitution is to just ignore it.
IMO, this has been the overarching goal of Progressives in general, and this administration in particular. Just proceed to selectively enforce laws you don't like and act like it's a normal part of everyday operations with no comment, no justification, no nothing.
Hopefully, the SCOAMF pissed off the SCOTUS enough that they'll completely gut OCare in a couple of months. That single action would send a very clear message to the White House that do indeed have limits to what they can do.
Not like that'd stop the Band of Merry Marxists, but I'd like to see it, just to put a burr under the JEF's saddle.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 23, 2012 07:12 AM (d0Tfm)
If you do, make sure you take your own pictures and video, there's no chance of the MSM showing anything like that.
Posted by: zmdavid at April 23, 2012 07:12 AM (3/elW)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 23, 2012 11:08 AM (0q2P7)
What about "We are the ones we've been waiting for"? Sure, he used the plural pronoun, but I'm pretty convinced it was solely self-referential.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 23, 2012 07:12 AM (DrWcr)
Actually, I think he can. His pardon power is pretty unlimited.
Article II Section II:
...and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
I'm oddly unconcerned about the pardons this doof is certain to throw about like beads at Mardi Gras after, God willing, his unelection. Pardons just ensure that no one can take the fifth in subsequent investigations.
I want the truth to come out and Barry's name to become a byword for incompetence and corruption for all time.
Posted by: toby928© at April 23, 2012 07:12 AM (NG097)
Posted by: Affenhauer at April 23, 2012 07:13 AM (kR7s3)
It's Chapel Hill. This is the same college that let a Muslim student plow through about 20 other students in his SUV on campus, because he was verklempt over how Muslims were treated by America, and then apologized for it. So imagine what they'd do to me. I'm a NCSU alum and their mascot is the wolf, which is the dog family. Hee hee!!!
Posted by: EC at April 23, 2012 07:14 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at April 23, 2012 07:14 AM (0tRzD)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 23, 2012 07:15 AM (1/eF6)
could foreshadow pitched battles over the separation of powers in his second term, should he win and Republicans consolidate their power in Congress.
Second term, how about now? Seriously, not to be all outrageously outraged but this is straight up tyranny.
Posted by: alexthechick at April 23, 2012 07:18 AM (VtjlW)
Can you all imagine what November- January are going to look like if the scoamf loses?
Maybe, maybe, congress will take the election as a mandate to check his tyranical power grabs, but I doubt it.
Posted by: Randy M at April 23, 2012 07:18 AM (vI8R6)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/6m7444b
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 23, 2012 07:20 AM (Hx5uv)
I don't think Barky recognizes any limit, hence his use of executive orders, new 'regulations', and the like. If SCOTUS rejects Obamacare Barky may well retaliate with more XOs and regs. And if gets the boot in November he'll wear out the autopen before January 20th.
Posted by: Retread at April 23, 2012 07:20 AM (joSBv)
Hypothetical for the Law Geeks.
Let's say that Randy M is right, and we all kinds of riots and violence and stuff between November and January. Then let's say the President declares a State of Emergency (because of all the riots and stuff)- does he still get removed as President on Jan 20? Or can he "postpone" the inauguration "for the duration of the crisis?"
Anyone know?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 23, 2012 07:20 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2012 07:21 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Waterhouse at April 23, 2012 07:22 AM (Pi5Sz)
Well, honestly, why would the Times get upset if the slush fund only amounted to eight dollars and thirty cents?
Posted by: Smart-ass pedantic jerk who loves to harp on eitorial mistakes... at April 23, 2012 07:22 AM (HqpV0)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 23, 2012 07:23 AM (gPDxp)
Posted by: Woody Allen at April 23, 2012 07:23 AM (cv5Iw)
Posted by: Joint Chiefs of Staff at April 23, 2012 07:23 AM (lZBBB)
If Obama likes the idea of a full-scale fucking shooting revolution on his hands.
Posted by: EC at April 23, 2012 07:23 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: State Dept. at April 23, 2012 07:24 AM (lZBBB)
Well, I didn't mean all of the practical consequences. I meant is that how his Emergency Powers work.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 23, 2012 07:24 AM (8y9MW)
I say that the Marine Guards get to drag his sorry ass out of the WH and leave him lying on Pennsylvania Ave at 12:01 PM, Jan 20th, 2013.
Seriously, I don't know. Since Obama is into making all of the these executive orders, why can't a Congress with some sack just refuse to go along?
I wouldn't put it past this group of creeps to start a true Constitution Crisis over their worthless boss.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at April 23, 2012 07:25 AM (YmPwQ)
all the riots and stuff)- does he still get removed as President on Jan
20? Or can he "postpone" the inauguration "for the duration of the
crisis?"
If Obama likes the idea of a full-scale fucking shooting revolution on his hands.
Oh I have every faith that they will try that very thing.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 23, 2012 07:25 AM (0q2P7)
His support is like glass---breaks apart easily
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, supports R.B. Hayes at April 23, 2012 07:25 AM (Dll6b)
`{one thing that separates us from a banana republic is that we don't go after the previous administration as far as incarcerating them for political differences.}
. I would argue that the actions of the current administration and its enablers more closely resemble a third world dictatorship.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 23, 2012 10:47 AM (4atNB)
If we go to the way back machine, Remember they were threatening Bush, Cheney, CIA with courts -prison, etc..
Posted by: willow at April 23, 2012 07:26 AM (TomZ9)
Do they know they've lost?
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2012 07:26 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Cicero at April 23, 2012 07:26 AM (QKKT0)
Shame on us.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at April 23, 2012 07:26 AM (hlUJY)
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2012 07:27 AM (WkuV6)
Yep. At that moment, he becomes a mere citizen and his authority to order anything ends. If his successor has not yet been sworn in, the Speaker of the House becomes acting President.
Posted by: toby928© at April 23, 2012 07:27 AM (NG097)
Posted by: JQ Public at April 23, 2012 07:28 AM (NBj0d)
I honestly don't think so. I think the UE numbers (the real ones that people know despite the Government's best effort), the price of gasoline, inflation, insane deficits, and so on will be enough to Doom him in November.
The Campaigns matter, but I don't think he can get re-elected on "Hope and Change" and that goofy, completely vacant smile of his.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 23, 2012 07:28 AM (8y9MW)
We still have the rule of law here; even Shit-stain Hussein and his toadies can't break that. At the core, they're cowards; they've proven this several times
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, supports R.B. Hayes at April 23, 2012 07:28 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 23, 2012 07:29 AM (j9St3)
Arrested by who (whom? I have a third-grade education)...? I'm not being completely snarky, I don't know who would be responsible for that.
It'll take a day or two for Romney to appoint a new Attorney General and get Congressional approvals (and I'd expect the Senate Dems to pull a WI-style fleabagger move to keep that from happening).
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at April 23, 2012 07:29 AM (/kI1Q)
Yeah that really says it all. He sucks, by any measure, even the progressive ones. Yet they are totally willing to go epic and die on the Hill labeled "Obama". Strange.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 23, 2012 07:30 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2012 07:30 AM (WkuV6)
Okay. That does actually make me feel better.
So it doesn't mean he wouldn't try, but it does mean he'd (almost certainly) have to rely on his para-military forces (NBPP, et. al.) instead of the Real Military.
And, oh yes, he'd then be guilty of treason.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 23, 2012 07:31 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at April 23, 2012 07:31 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at April 23, 2012 11:29 AM (/kI1Q)
I hear ya, Heather. The only thing I could imagine would be if the DC cops themselves arrested him. After all, he'd be a plain old citizen again.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at April 23, 2012 07:31 AM (4df7R)
The F.B. I. ---They have careers; they won't fu*k around with Shit-stain Hussein getting jiggy with the Constitution
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, supports R.B. Hayes at April 23, 2012 07:31 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: blaster at April 23, 2012 07:32 AM (7vSU0)
Oh, I would love to lay him off.
Wait, I think we're saying something different here...
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 23, 2012 07:32 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts at April 23, 2012 07:32 AM (NG097)
The FBI can arrest the President. Secret Service won't stop them.
Posted by: EC at April 23, 2012 07:33 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 23, 2012 10:34 AM (tfw1
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He will never be impeached unless he becomes extremely unpopular. His approval will have to be down to ~10%. Most Republican career politicians are terrified of being called racists and they remember the Clinton impeachment debacle. You will need an overwhelming sentiment in the House and the Senate that Obama must go, and Republicans aren't going to travel that road alone.
You have higher odds that guerrilla war will break out against the Federal government before President Obama will be impeached.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 23, 2012 07:33 AM (M0NzJ)
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2012 07:33 AM (WkuV6)
Hussein trying to do anything as POTUS after noon on Jan 20 is a violation of law. The FBI would be obligated to arrest him -- and any of his flunkies
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, supports R.B. Hayes at April 23, 2012 07:33 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at April 23, 2012 07:35 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2012 07:35 AM (WkuV6)
I just realized that we're talking about the real (albeit very, very remote) possibility of the US being in a de facto state of Civil War at 12:01 PM Jan 20, 2013... and it's not actually the worst-case scenario.
Think about that, for a minute. What the hell did the 52% do to us?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 23, 2012 07:36 AM (8y9MW)
Rip Van Winkle? Is that really you? Dood, you gotta get some learning put to you and get up to speed on the new way of doing shit.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 23, 2012 07:36 AM (Qo3AQ)
If that ever comes to pass, I'm hoping it settles the "liberal" problem.
Posted by: EC at April 23, 2012 07:37 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2012 11:33 AM (WkuV6)
I'd have more faith in this line of thinking if Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, and Al Sharpton -- bona fide terrorists and riot inciters all -- weren't all high-ranking political and social pundits today.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at April 23, 2012 07:38 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Ted Nugent's Iron Testicles at April 23, 2012 07:38 AM (EL+OC)
Posted by: sistrum at April 23, 2012 07:38 AM (AyryN)
Posted by: Barakus the Lightworker at April 23, 2012 07:39 AM (/ZZCn)
Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at April 23, 2012 07:39 AM (P80L2)
He bluffs like a pouting sissy, demanding attention and goodies. Better people than me will call the bluff. His hard-core crazies will fight, but there are actually very few of them.
remember the 'Occupy' rabble. Machine-gun fodder.........
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, supports R.B. Hayes at April 23, 2012 07:39 AM (Dll6b)
I don't know if the DC police have jurisdiction on the WH propert but President Romney may not need them.
I've been picturing Barky refusing to leave the WH for the inaugural. Romney turns up after taking the oath, finds Barky ensconced in the chair behind the Resolute Desk, and calls in the SS to remove Citizen Obama.
Posted by: Retread at April 23, 2012 07:40 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2012 07:41 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: runninrebel
If you just left them unprotected from the local criminals, they would run screaming.
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2012 07:42 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 23, 2012 11:36 AM (Qo3AQ)
WE have the rule of law. THEY don't, but they can be dealt with--and there itme will up up soon. Just because Hussein does not follow the rule of law does not mean that the rest of us agree--or will follow, or go allow for The Ride
and don't call me 'Dood' ( 'Airplane' reference )
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, supports R.B. Hayes at April 23, 2012 07:43 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2012 11:41 AM (WkuV6)
Yes, it will take several years and True Grit to cleanse the government of this rot. Politics is like building a road.....................
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, supports R.B. Hayes at April 23, 2012 07:45 AM (Dll6b)
The US Marshall Service or the FBI.
Posted by: Alex at April 23, 2012 07:47 AM (jdZlf)
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2012 07:49 AM (WkuV6)
In reality we got jack shit -- the executive branch is the only one of the three that actually controls any sort of enforcement apparatus. The other two branches are paper tigers.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 23, 2012 07:50 AM (Qo3AQ)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 23, 2012 07:50 AM (JIDLg)
...it will take several DECADES
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 23, 2012 07:52 AM (Qo3AQ)
I must here reiterate my utter loathing for the word "community."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at April 23, 2012 10:50 AM (4df7R)
Agreed. Only one word is worse: "activist." And as for "community activist" - forget it.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 23, 2012 07:56 AM (g5oFd)
"jack shit' includes the US armed forces who won't...............
there's more to 'we" than you realize, Pessimistic Avenger
( lalso included are several million gun-owning persons with and without color. Any government exists only at the sufference of its citizens)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, supports R.B. Hayes at April 23, 2012 07:58 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: RoxyDoxy at April 23, 2012 08:00 AM (ZzhA3)
Never. He will never be impeached. As long as Obama has the balls to attempt these things, and Congress does continues to show it does NOT have the balls to stop him, he will continue to take bigger and bigger steps over the line of legality. This is why he must not have a second term. This is also why we need to get rid of the fossils in DC and elect some people who aren't quite hitting Alzheimer's age yet. The fossils are so used to this behavior that it doesn't even really bother them anymore. It doesn't seem to occur to them that they are supposed to be representing US, and that we the people are being cheated and abused by their inaction.
Posted by: Laura Castellano at April 23, 2012 08:02 AM (fuw6p)
Earlier this year, Senator Charles E. Grassley, Republican of Iowa, delivered a series of floor speeches accusing Mr. Obama of acting “more and more like a king that the Constitution was designed to replace” and imploring colleagues of both parties to push back against his “power grabs.”
But Democratic lawmakers have been largely quiet; many of them accuse Republicans of engaging in an unprecedented level of obstructionism and say that Mr. Obama has to do what he can to make the government work. The pattern adds to a bipartisan history in which lawmakers from presidentsÂ’ own parties have tended not to object to invocations of executive power.
For their part, Republicans appear to have largely acquiesced. Mr. Grassley said in an interview that his colleagues were reluctant to block even more bills and nominations in response to Mr. Obama’s “chutzpah,” lest they play into his effort to portray them as making Congress dysfunctional.
“Some of the most conservative people in our caucus would adamantly disagree with what Obama did on recess appointments, but they said it’s not a winner for us,” he said.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 23, 2012 08:02 AM (9eDbm)
Screw that. I'm not leaving. THEY leave. When it's time to leave friggin AMERICA for someplace else, it's time to fight for America. The hell with this running away shit.
Posted by: Laura Castellano at April 23, 2012 08:04 AM (fuw6p)
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Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 23, 2012 08:07 AM (9eDbm)
Where they been so far with all the illegal shit Obama's been doing?
That's right...doing nothing.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 23, 2012 08:13 AM (Qo3AQ)
Short story: was talking to a health care professional who was watching my dad and he brought up how bad Obamacare, inflation, etc. is. He said he was all for it at first but Obummer hasn't delivered on anything.
Also talked to a construction guy a few days back asking him who did the stake out for the new gas pumps they were installing. It was an out of town company and I told him how I needed something local so I could watch my dad. I ended the conversation with "this economy really sucks" and he totally, heartily agreed.
Methinks there's a real silent majority out there.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 23, 2012 08:14 AM (7+pP9)
I would love it if Romney started his inauguration speech by pointing at Obama and saying "everything that guy did over the past 4 years was bullshit." And then he immediately signs his first executive order overturning all of Zero's EO's. Right there on the Capitol steps.
Of course I don't expect Obama to be there. There will be a long, drawn-out, Clinton 2001-style departure.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at April 23, 2012 08:15 AM (YmPwQ)
ProIndividual-3906907
I see idiots cheerleading for the exact unConstitutional powers Bush used that they complained about.
If we're going to cheerlead for this when "our" Party is in office, and "their" Party isn't, then both Parties will turn this country into an elected dictatorship...if it isn't already. There is a reason why we have separation of powers...
...because the Founders prefered "do nothing" deadlock to "do something" tyranny.
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Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 23, 2012 08:20 AM (9eDbm)
Posted by: Tough,Tougher,Crunchy at April 23, 2012 08:30 AM (c3mby)
Of course I don't expect Obama to be there. There will be a long, drawn-out, Clinton 2001-style departure.
If they lose I expect a complete snub of Romney and company. The Chicago Grifters are petty little tyrants who have no class whatsoever.
Posted by: Alex at April 23, 2012 08:35 AM (jdZlf)
Posted by: Laura Castellano at April 23, 2012 12:04 PM (fuw6p)
This need to be repeated over and over
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 23, 2012 08:37 AM (mFxQX)
We have but an inkling of the Rule of Law left in this nation and that will go out soon if Barky isn't outfitted with an orange jumpsuit - which is th ONLY san reaction any self-respecting nation can have to such an unmitigated disaster.
And everyone who voted for Barky is a piec3e of shit America-hater. They know. We know it. Everyone knows it. No amount of Mr. Nice Guy talk is going to change the fact that the Barky voters are the sort of population that cannot self-govern, as clearly demonstrated by their retarded/America-hating vote to put he 84 IQ dog-eater into the White House (even in violation of our Constitution).
America needs to understand that damage such as this is NOT repaired merely through an election. Not even close. America has changed into an insane nation. That cannot just be voted out and everyone moves on. It just doesn't work that way.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 23, 2012 08:40 AM (X3lox)
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I think a lot of comments that support O that you see on articles and blogs are written by paid minions of Axerold or other leftish organizations, as part of a wide campaign to influence public opinion. You see the same talking points, the same kind of rhetoric, over and over.
If you have ever looked at comments on lefty blog sites like Kos or FireDogLake, you can see the difference in those comments (which are probably mostly real people, true believers) compared to what I think are fake/paid comments on news and other web articles.
Same thing if you look at the grammar and writing style of Trayvon supporters on Zimmerman/Trayvon articles. Very different style, and I think these are mostly real people too, and they're quite different than the propaganda comments.
Posted by: Mayday at April 23, 2012 08:45 AM (orrLR)
Better yet, a video timeline of Obama saying "We Can't Wait" ending with the question "Mr. President, why are you making us wait?"
Posted by: OxyCon at April 23, 2012 09:07 AM (ur8o6)
Posted by: madamex at April 23, 2012 09:19 AM (5+Fw+)
How will that happen, exactly? The President has always had near-absolute control over his executive branch agencies. Congress has gradually ceded lawmaking power to those agencies on the premise that the legislature ultimately controlled the funding that made their operation possible, but now the President can apparently give out billions of dollars without any Congressional involvement.
Congress believed they could reject unsuitable candidates to lead those agencies, but the Executive can now appoint whoever he wants, whenever he wants by declaring that Congress is in "recess".
Congress expected that those agencies would act within their charters, but they've allowed, even encouraged, agencies and commissions to operate far outside their legal scope and without required quorums.
I think Congress can re-establish the proper balance of power, but they have to do it aggressively and do it soon. The next opportunity may be decades away.
Posted by: GalosGann at April 23, 2012 09:25 AM (T3KlW)
But apparently we can wait for engery while he comletes multi-year studies of ANWAR, the Canadian pipeline and Gulf of Mexico drilling.
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A Republican would have been impeached long ago.
Posted by: Vic at April 23, 2012 06:31 AM (YdQQY)