October 03, 2012
— Ace More of the same sort of rhetoric we heard in the 2007 speech, only not as strident.
In this clip, Obama fleshes out his views on empathy, applying it to the divide between rich and poor. This analysis is revealing as Obama suggests that there is a class struggle underlying society in which non-violence is only one option. He doesn't spell out the alternative but he does suggest that "accountants and tax loopholes" are used to keep people down in a way that is reminiscent of the way police treated blacks during the civil rights struggle. He says at one point "I don't know if you've noticed but rich people are all for nonviolence. Why wouldn't they be. They've got what they want."
I find that very revealing. The rich only oppose violence because they've "got what they want" and seek a rule to defend it?
Does that not mean that those who are not rich are justified in using violence, as they don't yet have what they want?
He also suggests that non-violence is a sound approach only if the rich "have empathy" for the poor, by which he surely means cash-money empathy.
What if they don't? What if they decide they're paying enough in taxes? Is non-violence out the window, then?
I asked on Twitter, to the media: Since Obama has, by the media's own admission, not said what he'd do in a second term (except "Not be Romney" and also "Not be Obama from his First Term"), and since all electoral considerations will be lifted from him in a second term, shouldn't we be sort of interested in what really drives Obama?
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Posted by: Medeved at October 03, 2012 02:09 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: Honey Badger at October 03, 2012 02:10 PM (GvYeG)
Rainbows, skittles and unicorns for everybody?
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 03, 2012 02:10 PM (9+ccr)
He can't loathe the guy anymore than he already does.
Posted by: Tami at October 03, 2012 02:10 PM (X6akg)
So, I am left to the conclusion that they have been promised special privileges by the Obama administration if things fall apart.
I just thought you should know I have asked them. It is disheartening to me.
When I was a girl I once considered journalism as a profession. My life sent me in a different direction, by the grace of God, as I see now I would have either starved or been shot as an enemy of the state.
Posted by: Miss Marple at October 03, 2012 02:11 PM (GoIUi)
Saw a Breitbart link at FR to battleground polls by Politico (Yeech) that is D+2. Romney up 49%-45%.
Trolls hardest hit.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 03, 2012 02:11 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: JDTAY at October 03, 2012 02:12 PM (a0nis)
I'm hoping he steps in it tonight and says something incredibly mask slipping.
Although I as said on twitter, this guy is nothing but masks, so I can't really be sure any of it is true.
Posted by: tsrblke at October 03, 2012 02:12 PM (GaqMa)
He can't loathe the guy anymore than he already does.
Posted by: Tami at October 03, 2012 06:10 PM (X6akg)
Yeah, but where... my kids ask me the same thing... if I'd want to leave. There's nowhere to go.
Posted by: hindmost at October 03, 2012 02:12 PM (t6Jvs)
Posted by: Barry @ Hoover Dam at October 03, 2012 02:13 PM (wIgpo)
Posted by: Toldyasoooooo at October 03, 2012 02:13 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: JDTAY at October 03, 2012 02:13 PM (a0nis)
Posted by: Barry's Debate Notes at October 03, 2012 02:13 PM (W2qJe)
Yeah, but where... my kids ask me the same thing... if I'd want to leave. There's nowhere to go.
Posted by: hindmost at October 03, 2012 06:12 PM (t6Jvs)
I agree. Even just leaving this State,Ca,would probably help a bit to say ,Texas, but my whole Family is here including my 95 year old Mother in law,,,
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 03, 2012 02:14 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Ann Althouse at October 03, 2012 02:14 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: hindmost at October 03, 2012 06:12 PM (t6Jvs)
It would probably be Singapore. He has a registered business there and we've lived there before as expats.
Posted by: Tami at October 03, 2012 02:14 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at October 03, 2012 02:15 PM (F6KtL)
FWIW, his statement is fairly illogical anyway.
He talks about rich people "not wanting violence" because they "have everything they want" but of course in that case they'd not want change at all. While many of them don't he can't possibly explain those who do in his rubric, so he just handwaves with the squirrel of "rich people are evil."
Which does sorta lead to ace's point, is he equating violance and change?
Posted by: tsrblke at October 03, 2012 02:15 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 03, 2012 02:15 PM (9otrl)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 03, 2012 02:15 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Annal Thouse at October 03, 2012 02:16 PM (XT2y5)
Posted by: dantesed at October 03, 2012 02:16 PM (cT5nQ)
Posted by: tcn at October 03, 2012 02:16 PM (VLG62)
We don't do ourselves any favors comparing this guy with how a normal candidate would be treated. Really need to stop thinking that way, e.g. the Carter comparisons and so forth, what the polls were like in Sept 1980, etc. It Does Not Compare.
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at October 03, 2012 02:17 PM (zpqa2)
@16 Costa Rica maybe Belize.
Lots of retiree expats down there. Not millionaires either just want to live warm and comfortable and not pay most of their income in taxes.
Optimistically C.A. could really benefit from a second term of the God King
Posted by: Finn McCool at October 03, 2012 02:17 PM (R/8dI)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at October 03, 2012 02:17 PM (VlKT6)
Hehehe. While everyone is watching the debates, I'll be with the children of those folks!
Posted by: Jim Messina at October 03, 2012 02:17 PM (F6KtL)
Posted by: Peggy Noonan at October 03, 2012 02:18 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at October 03, 2012 02:18 PM (6JMZR)
Posted by: Infidel at October 03, 2012 02:18 PM (O/fK8)
Romney's problem tonight is not Obama, it's the moderators. They will avoid financial and job/economy questions as much as possible, putting them near the end when many have switched the channel out of boredome over birth control, abortion, gay marriage, racism and healthcare questions.
I hope Romney can pull off a "Newt moment" by whacking the premise of a gotcha question. Don't know if he's got that in him or not.
Obama is the one under pressure (ZZ-Top reference!) tonight. He's down in the battleground states. Let's see if he sweats.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 03, 2012 02:19 PM (1Y+hH)
Tell me if you've heard this one before...If you like your healthcare, you can keep your healthcare...right, yeah! Thanks, I'll be here for another four years!
Posted by: Jugears O'Stumblefuck at October 03, 2012 02:20 PM (F6KtL)
Posted by: wte9 at October 03, 2012 02:20 PM (RCQ1W)
Posted by: John McCain at October 03, 2012 02:20 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Teh MBM at October 03, 2012 02:20 PM (V/U0X)
Posted by: Adam at October 03, 2012 02:21 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Gwenn Ifill at October 03, 2012 02:21 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: wheatie at October 03, 2012 02:21 PM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: steevy at October 03, 2012 02:22 PM (6o4Fb)
I wouldn't do such a thing, but nice to know he'd be cool with it.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 03, 2012 02:22 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: steevy at October 03, 2012 02:22 PM (6o4Fb)
Question 1: (to President): Have you forgiven Governor Romney for running against you?
Question 2: (to Governor Romney): Governor Romney, you just heard President Obama state here on this stage that he forgives you for challenging his claim to the presidency, will you now in front of this audience and the millions watchin, do the honorable thing and bow out of this race?
Posted by: Jim Lehrer's Notes at October 03, 2012 02:23 PM (W2qJe)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 03, 2012 02:23 PM (V/U0X)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 03, 2012 02:23 PM (PH+2B)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 03, 2012 02:23 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 03, 2012 02:23 PM (QxSug)
Let me know if you plan to go because that SOB's been inflicting the violence inherent in the system on my ass for four years.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 03, 2012 02:24 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: jakeman at October 03, 2012 02:24 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: You heard it here first at October 03, 2012 02:24 PM (cBYCG)
This is what I posted on the last thread:
1) The major newspapers will be "bailed out" by the local cities and some states. They'll form a quasi-private corporation along the lines of PBS or Fannie Mae that will, more or less, make them officially what they already are: Mouthpieces for the state. It'll be a loan or bonds or something but, there will be taxpayer money going to the major newspapers. They will do it at the state and local level to avoid any constitutional questions. (and even then, that piss-yellow coward, John Roberts will be fine with it.)
2) The Fairness Doctrine will be the law of the land by May. I don't think I need to explain just how erronous and malicious this law is to any conservative. Short answer: No more Fox, no more talk radio and--because they will apply it to the internet--no more conservative websites. "Cut, jib, newsletter" won't be a joke, it'll be the only way you'll hear conservative opinions. Opps. Nope. Not even that will be allowed. Or did you think that "arrest" of the filmmaker was a one-time deal?
Yes, we are well and truly fucked in the ass if the JEF is reelected.
We will be locked down as tight as communist China when it comes to news and information. While the media elites will become a protected class as willing mouthpieces.
And this is not even taking into account gawd knows what is buried in his executive orders.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 03, 2012 02:25 PM (imtbm)
In Unforgiven, the evil sheriff (Gene Hackman) has just bull whipped Clint's partner (Morgan Freeman) nearly to death.
The sheriff asks where Clint is at, or he will have to really hurt him, not nice like before.
TFG 2013 -- Not Nice Like Before
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 03, 2012 02:25 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 03, 2012 02:25 PM (QxSug)
..."Fighting Words"
This term has been brought up lately...by Leftists.
Isn't Barky engaging in...'fighting words'...in this speech?
And hasn't he been doing it, a lot?
He is inciting people to riot, to take what other people have more of than they do.
This is 'agitation'.
Which is his biggest talent.
Posted by: wheatie at October 03, 2012 02:26 PM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 03, 2012 02:26 PM (jucos)
The guy eats, sleeps, breaths and shits the other six.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at October 03, 2012 02:26 PM (PMGbu)
Posted by: jakeman at October 03, 2012 02:26 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: Henry in Des Moines at October 03, 2012 02:27 PM (EuW9O)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 03, 2012 02:27 PM (nVOyV)
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at October 03, 2012 02:27 PM (zpqa2)
Posted by: votermom at October 03, 2012 02:27 PM (SgjCD)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 03, 2012 02:27 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: HtP at October 03, 2012 02:27 PM (jx2j9)
Charles Manson wouldn't have said it any differently. In fact, I think he did say it.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 03, 2012 02:27 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: JDTAY at October 03, 2012 06:13 PM (a0nis)
Don't forget South Korea. Heeeeey sexy lady!
http://youtu.be/9bZkp7q19f0
Posted by: Gangnam Style at October 03, 2012 02:28 PM (vjyZP)
1. Romney will be proclaimed by the press as to 'polished', to rehearsed, and artificial. Stiff, unresponsive, and recited his memorized lines with a dead-pan delivery, void of any emotion, or inflection.
2. Obama will be characterized as alive, eager, engaged, commanding, presidential. His verbal stumbles will offered up as proof that he is speaking from the heart, and not merely reciting overly rehearsed talking points.
3. Romney will mention his kids. He'll be criticized for doing so.
4. Obama will mention his kids. He'll be lauded for doing so.
5. Romney will make numerous mentions of Obama's record in office thus far....he'll be accused of making partisan, mean spirited, and desperate attacks in an effort to save his fumbling campaign.
6. At some point during this debate, Obama will look personally hurt by Romney's harsh words. The cameras will zoom in on his tortured face....Chris Mathews will break down in tears.
In the end, the press will declare Obama as the clear winner...on points, on style, and on appearance.
The voters will disagree, and Romney will get a moderate boost in the polls.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 03, 2012 02:28 PM (L7hol)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 03, 2012 02:28 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 03, 2012 02:28 PM (V/U0X)
Posted by: Max Power at October 03, 2012 02:28 PM (q177U)
Nightly conversation in our household. We're currently in Phoenix, which has gotten progressively more liberal since I arrived here 20 years ago, though still not as liberal as my hometown Boston.
Belize and Costa Rica are good calls; Ecuador was pretty cool when we went a few years ago, but I think they've gotten progressively more anti-US. We've got a friend who's made a nice life for himself in Guatemala. I would rather live in a thatched-roof hut and wash dishes in his restaurant than endure another 4 years of TFG.
Posted by: jakeman at October 03, 2012 06:24 PM (96M6e)
I will keep my guns and take my chances here. Those little bannana republics scare me
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 03, 2012 02:29 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 03, 2012 02:29 PM (0muQ0)
______OOOOO______ هذه الكتلة يمارس الجنس مع التأتأة الفشل!!!
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______OOOOO______ هذه الكتلة يمارس الجنس مع التأتأة الفشل!!!
أوباما أم مص الديك الداعر التأتأة يمارس الجنس مع كتلة من الفشل الذريع!!!
أوباما أم مص الديك الداعر التأتأة يمارس الجنس مع كتلة من الفشل الذريع!!!
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Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 03, 2012 02:29 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Countrysquire at October 03, 2012 02:29 PM (awhNz)
Posted by: Reggie Love at October 03, 2012 02:29 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: truth at October 03, 2012 02:30 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Meremortal at October 03, 2012 02:30 PM (1Y+hH)
"Turkish artillery fired on Syrian targets after deadly shelling from Syria hit a Turkish border town on Wednesday, sharply raising tensions on a volatile border that has been crossed by tens of thousands of Syrian refugees fleeing violence in their country."
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 03, 2012 02:30 PM (vY2x+)
Yeah, you're better off in the Banana Superstate.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 03, 2012 02:30 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Jim Lehrer at October 03, 2012 02:30 PM (TR60b)
@61 No grass roofed hut for your my freind come right on down and live right on the beach.
Seriously there are places you can still buy on the cheap if you are a few miles from the coast or on a undeveloped river area.
Have to provide your own protection though which shouldn't be a problem for any self respecting Moron.
CR and Belize are still jungle primitive for the most part and don't mind Gringos as much as other parts of C.A.
No joke I actually own property in Belize and look forward to retiring there.
And by retiring I mean opening up my walk up resturaunt/bar and working the rest of my life. Which is completely cool with me.
Posted by: Finn McCool at October 03, 2012 02:30 PM (R/8dI)
Posted by: MFM Surrogate at October 03, 2012 02:31 PM (jx2j9)
So, we have to pray that St. Michael and the Virgin of Guadalupe (patroness of the Americas) look out for Mitt, as he does battle with Evil.
Myself, I have planned to hide in plain site and end my internet business, as I will not be amenable to working to support the SCOAMF. I will just take my SOcial Security and hope my husband can earn enough for us to emigrate somewhere. I thought about a cottage high in the Highlands of Scotland, since no one much wants to live there with the climate.
Posted by: Miss Marple at October 03, 2012 02:31 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 03, 2012 02:31 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 03, 2012 02:31 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Dictionary of Racist Terms at October 03, 2012 02:31 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Gwenn Ifill at October 03, 2012 02:32 PM (QKKT0)
Yeah, you're better off in the Banana Superstate.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 03, 2012 06:30 PM (QKKT0)
Armed
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 03, 2012 02:32 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Ana Maria Pissflaps at October 03, 2012 02:32 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Ken Royall at October 03, 2012 02:33 PM (x0g8a)
Posted by: logprof at October 03, 2012 02:33 PM (V/U0X)
Ace,
A second term will mean Obama unleashed. Free from the constraints of meeting public expectations necessary for re-election, we will see Obama like never before. He'll double down on all his favorites, class warfare, government expansion, destruction of the energy industry, coddling of foreign despots, and bread and circuses for his constituency. More free stuff like cellphones, SSI disability gone wild, Pigford II, amnesty, and all of this while spending trillion upon trillion with Ben Bernanke paper coupons...The United States will be unrecognizable following a second Obama term...
Posted by: You heard it here first at October 03, 2012 02:33 PM (cBYCG)
85...Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 03, 2012 06:29 PM (ovpNn)
You better not be 'slandering the prophet', jeremiah.
That can land you in jail.
Posted by: wheatie at October 03, 2012 02:34 PM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at October 03, 2012 02:34 PM (DlSi2)
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at October 03, 2012 02:34 PM (zpqa2)
AnnaPuma, or anyone else involved with NaNoWriMo: is there an AOSHQ group there? I just joined up, and would love to have other moron/ettes to talk about it with!
Posted by: Empire1 just got a new kitten at October 03, 2012 02:35 PM (SFqxW)
the stammering fucknut makes no sense as usual.didn't the socialist of old spout on and on how the rich were all to ready to use violence in order to keep what they have
Posted by: kj at October 03, 2012 02:35 PM (zYYbU)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 03, 2012 02:35 PM (nVOyV)
We are going to go broke though. And our federal government along with several state governments will dissolve. It will be dicey. There will be violence, famine, and disease in many parts of the country. We will have to struggle without a currency and we will have to find new ways to support ourselves.
But these cocksuckers do not have the balls, the weaponry, the numbers, or the know-how to wage war on us. They are weak, disordered, lazy, and cowardly. Their order cannot survive without the dollar. Their only mechanism of oppression is financial.
Posted by: runninrebel at October 03, 2012 06:34 PM (N/1Dm)
The currency of choice will be 9mm and 556. I am rich
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 03, 2012 02:35 PM (nTgAI)
I don't think so. Someone who isn't me should start one.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 03, 2012 02:36 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Jim Lehrer at October 03, 2012 02:36 PM (jucos)
Romney: Because FUCK YOU, socialist bitches, that's why.
Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at October 03, 2012 02:36 PM (sTS/8)
Posted by: Barry O in this thing breh at October 03, 2012 06:34 PM (60GaT)
Bumper sticker
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 03, 2012 02:36 PM (nTgAI)
So, the New Liberals are running everything now, and the nonviolent approach has, from their POV, been incredibly successful. They've given away everything in sight for Good Intentions, and all Whitey -- let's just call him that -- has really done is grumble. We're going over a cliff, sure, but it's all been for the best.
And yet, in the mishmash of old slogans this guy has roiling around instead of convictions, there's still a need to get-it-up once in awhile. Pitchforks. You don't meet modern state socialists who see any appeal in this at all. I think it makes them cringe because it reminds them of when The Cause was hopeless, not triumphal. They'll try to pass it off as that-was-then youthful exuberance, like the cars you burned after your team lost and then gave a power-fist and yelled "For The People!".
Posted by: comatus at October 03, 2012 02:36 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 03, 2012 02:37 PM (QxSug)
Your wife, Mr. President. Where does she get her amazing sense of style?
Third World donation shops.
Posted by: Infidel at October 03, 2012 02:37 PM (O/fK8)
Posted by: jakeman at October 03, 2012 02:37 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: maddogg at October 03, 2012 02:38 PM (OlN4e)
Governor Romney, how can you jusify running against a black man for President? Have you no shame sir? HAVE YOU NO SHAME, SIR???
Posted by: Jim Lehrer at October 03, 2012 02:38 PM (F6KtL)
Stuttering Cluster Fuck of a Miserable Failure needs to be removed from Office and Deported.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 03, 2012 02:38 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at October 03, 2012 02:39 PM (jucos)
107....Their only mechanism of oppression is financial.
Bin Laden's plan was to break us...financially.
Barky has the same plan.
He wants us broke and on our knees.
That thing about the various Govt Agencies...stocking up on ammunition...has still not been explained.
Posted by: wheatie at October 03, 2012 02:39 PM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: logprof at October 03, 2012 02:39 PM (V/U0X)
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 03, 2012 02:39 PM (tOkJB)
Posted by: Observer at October 03, 2012 02:40 PM (/sohm)
Posted by: Randy Moss, on his cash-money empathy at October 03, 2012 02:40 PM (w84dK)
Posted by: ErikW at October 03, 2012 02:41 PM (0m+Iv)
Posted by: Meremortal at October 03, 2012 02:41 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Joe Scarborough at October 03, 2012 02:41 PM (F6KtL)
Question 3 (follow up to Governor Romney): Governor Romney since you do not have the slightest decency to concede here tonight, will you at least act in the best interest of this nation and yield the rest of the debate time to President Obama so the country can appreciate his innate awesomeness?
Posted by: Jim Lehrer's Notes at October 03, 2012 02:41 PM (W2qJe)
Posted by: MFM Surrogate at October 03, 2012 02:41 PM (jx2j9)
"Presidential Leadership" Brookings Institute
Jon Huntsman is asking "where's our Republican Bill Clinton" with charisma?
Bart Gordon: all Obama needs to do tonight is look presidential. He will definitely win reelection, and maintain slight Senate democrat majority. Nervous, big stakes, business community to make demands from politicians after the election. Taxes, budget, all rolled into one bill. [God, not another "you've got to vote for it before you can read what's in it" comprehensive reform bill from hell.]
Bill Kristol: Tonight I won't beat up on Romney. Question: Where are the actual poll numbers? No worse than 2 weeks ago. Obama had a chance to pull ahead, but failed to close the sale. 3 pt. race now. Obama is vulnerable, poor incumbent figures, far below Clinton's at re-election, even below Bush was. Obama has provided Romney with running room.
Financial Times questions Kristol re: Romney adm. on Economy
Economic Reconciliation will pass with Republican votes given compromise.
John Boehner is NOT going to hold Republicans against a reelected Obama.
Crisis gives either candidate elected a stronger hand economically to shape the agenda.
Posted by: number nine at October 03, 2012 02:42 PM (BAnPT)
As you say, Excellency. Would you kindly do so, then? I have 5 novels under my belt, but not recently, and would like to get back into the writing game with a bit less isolation than I've had so far.
Posted by: Empire1 just got a new kitten at October 03, 2012 02:43 PM (SFqxW)
Posted by: Jim Lehrer's Notes at October 03, 2012 02:44 PM (W2qJe)
@107 Respectfully, while you are right on one level, overall I believe you are wrong.
We are in a global economy. In my humble opinion if the God King is re-elected the entire world economy may be thrown into chaos.
No not right away but soon, we are the engine of consumption in the world.
Europe is a factor but not anywhere close to the US, we stop, bad things happen. Everywhere.
China is a house of cards, India too, they don't feed the world and its economy. We do.
I don't pretend to know what will result. I do have a very educated idea what may.
It will not be anything we have ever seen before. Comparisons to the UK and Rome are simplistic.
Too much has changed.
Posted by: Finn McCool at October 03, 2012 02:45 PM (R/8dI)
Posted by: logprof at October 03, 2012 02:45 PM (V/U0X)
DID ROMNEY GIVE A NAZI SALUTE AT THE DEBATES YESTERDAY?
Posted by: Headline #23 Tomorrow in the Media at October 03, 2012 02:46 PM (F6KtL)
Posted by: kj at October 03, 2012 02:46 PM (zYYbU)
Posted by: Truman North at October 03, 2012 02:46 PM (+gfwN)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 03, 2012 02:47 PM (nVOyV)
http://tinyurl.com/9l9j9q8
Posted by: Ombudsman at October 03, 2012 02:47 PM (eOufH)
Posted by: Headline #57 Tomorrow in the Media at October 03, 2012 02:47 PM (F6KtL)
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 03, 2012 02:48 PM (nTgAI)
since all electoral considerations will be lifted from him in a second term, shouldn't we be sort of interested in what really drives Obama?
-----------------------------------------------
Reggie drives Baraka. He drives him hard.
Posted by: Soona at October 03, 2012 02:48 PM (+aKFM)
Posted by: ErikW at October 03, 2012 02:48 PM (0m+Iv)
War on "those not like us" Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy
He should feature a halal fila sandwich. Just to fuck with them.Offer a nation of Islam special.
Posted by: Blue Hen at October 03, 2012 02:48 PM (UW6NX)
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Of course they don't.
But then, how many soldiers and weaponry did Stalin need to starve 20 million?
It's not through war that governments have managed to kill some 100 million in the last 100 years, it was largely through their policies during times of peace.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 03, 2012 02:49 PM (imtbm)
HOW MUCH DID ROMNEY'S HAIRCUT COST?
OBAMA PROMISES TO BE TOUGHER, POINTING OUT HOW HE'S BLACK AND ROMNEY IS WHITE.
Posted by: Headline #342 Tomorrow in the Media at October 03, 2012 02:49 PM (F6KtL)
Posted by: wheatie at October 03, 2012 02:50 PM (l5RhJ)
@123 Please send your application to Finn McCool's Totally Bitchin Irish Pub and Beach Bistro.
(I will call it a Bistro to get the hipsters from "the States", we call it the States so we don't freak out the Canuks, to eat there.)
Posted by: Finn McCool at October 03, 2012 02:50 PM (R/8dI)
Posted by: logprof at October 03, 2012 02:50 PM (V/U0X)
Posted by: eadline #3.14 Tomorrow in the Media at October 03, 2012 02:50 PM (UW6NX)
Posted by: MFM Surrogate at October 03, 2012 02:51 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Jim Lehrer's Notes at October 03, 2012 02:51 PM (W2qJe)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 03, 2012 02:51 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Mao tse baraka in da house at October 03, 2012 02:52 PM (cBYCG)
Posted by: Jim Lehrer's Notes at October 03, 2012 02:54 PM (W2qJe)
Mr Obama has tried, at every turn, to help undo the injustices of so many generations. He is committed, to me, to helping those that most need help. those that need the lift, and the understanding of us who have so much. Who have TOO much, really. Who have been given so much in our lives that we don't need. So many others have not been borne so; they come into this world poor, beaten, and defeated- why should they be kept there?
At every attempt, the Republican party has kept those 'sacred cows' of the rich in their attempt to keep power- to keep their lofty status in life, and to prevent others from reaching and achieving the best that they can. EVERYONE deserves a chance- EVERYONE deserves equal treatment for equal effort- we all can live together as one, as Americans. In a land so rich with life.
Understand that Mr Obama is the first one to be so close to achieving this goal- to understanding what it is going to take to get there, and to try to make it happen. He will fail at some things, but he has succeeded in many many others. He has helped to bring us together in ways we have yet to realize- but given another term, he CAN achieve them. He CAN do it.
We can transform the selfish, elitism that America has become to show. He understands, from his varied life around our world, how we can set the example, and succeed where all others fail.
He will give, where others only take; he is boldly going where no other politician dared travel, in hopes that America can be, and achieve, the greatness of our people.
Give him that chance. Listen to what he is saying. And believe.
We do.
Posted by: Hopeful and committed at October 03, 2012 02:54 PM (UIAT6)
@145 It's actually a great place. Little primitive in off the cayes which makes it ripe for a Moron takeover.
Ace would have to shave his fur though; little humid.
But plenty of garbage for him to sex up.
Posted by: Finn McCool at October 03, 2012 02:55 PM (R/8dI)
Posted by: McCool at October 03, 2012 02:56 PM (lw1WI)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 03, 2012 02:57 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: comatus at October 03, 2012 03:00 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 03, 2012 03:00 PM (HethX)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 03, 2012 03:00 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: jakeman at October 03, 2012 03:01 PM (96M6e)
This kinda sorta allows us to see that Barry really is a puppet of a fifth column.
Doncha love it, how the media is totally silent on all of this shit.
Kinda sorta makes you wonder about them...
How they kinda sorta allow all leftist based activites to go without comment, or a full fledged PR campaign replete with spinners and media advisors.
Kinda makes you wonder.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Bob McKenzie at October 03, 2012 03:02 PM (ApGOC)
Posted by: Y-not racisty racist apparently at October 03, 2012 03:02 PM (ma3QC)
@79
Oh thank goodness. Thank you. For a minute there I was gonna watch the damn debate... now I don't have to..... I really don't think I can stand to listen to Obama talk ever again...the JEF is almost as annoying as Jim Lehrer.
Posted by: Some Guy In Wisconsin at October 03, 2012 03:05 PM (vkhgP)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 03, 2012 03:05 PM (QxSug)
So, who are you really?
Things all right in Brattleboro?
Posted by: comatus at October 03, 2012 03:06 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: hindmost at October 03, 2012 03:07 PM (t6Jvs)
He cares not for debate or legislation.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk, reminding everybody we are boned at October 03, 2012 03:07 PM (PHb2k)
Posted by: jakeman at October 03, 2012 03:07 PM (96M6e)
@174 Doubt it, Mayan ruins and all, I would bet they found all the easy gold in the rivers.
Maybe could dig for it but like I said it is a fucking jungle, disentery, malaria could possibly wreck your day.
Posted by: Finn McCool at October 03, 2012 03:07 PM (R/8dI)
Posted by: jakeman at October 03, 2012 03:10 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: VJay at October 03, 2012 03:10 PM (q5NFp)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 03, 2012 03:11 PM (QxSug)
Bwaahahahaha *laugh tears rolling down face* giggle snort Well...Bwahahahahaha. Hold on, let me catch my breath. Bwahhahahaha.
Oh, good one. That is so funny.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk, reminding everybody we are boned at October 03, 2012 03:13 PM (PHb2k)
168....He will give, where others only take; he is boldly going where no other politician dared travel, in hopes that America can be, and achieve, the greatness of our people.
This is a joke, right?
Lot's of 'other politicians' have traveled where he is going.
Hitler....Castro...Lenin...Chavez....the list is actually quite long.
They all promised to do the things you're drooling over, using the same rhetoric, that you have fallen for.
Posted by: wheatie at October 03, 2012 03:13 PM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: VJay at October 03, 2012 03:16 PM (q5NFp)
Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at October 03, 2012 03:17 PM (UljOc)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 03, 2012 03:17 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at October 03, 2012 03:18 PM (2G8Ca)
Hope there are more damaging things to be released over the next 34 days. Is it just me or does it seem like everything's beginning to cave in on him now? The timing could not be better.
Posted by: Mayday at October 03, 2012 03:19 PM (F3s39)
Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at October 03, 2012 03:21 PM (UljOc)
Posted by: Sweep the leg at October 03, 2012 03:22 PM (jTw+z)
Posted by: Sweep the leg at October 03, 2012 03:27 PM (jTw+z)
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It would have been nice in 2008 if anyone in the media had the curiosity to find out what a "community organizer" did. Could have been easily explained with two names, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson. Community organizer is just a glorified title for race hustling shakedown artist.
Posted by: Mayday at October 03, 2012 03:31 PM (F3s39)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 03, 2012 03:31 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: MasterBlaster, after O-bah-muhh is re-elected at October 03, 2012 03:34 PM (w84dK)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at October 03, 2012 03:40 PM (QupBk)
I can't think of anyone offhand, but I haven't paid that close attention to congressional races. Maybe Fauxcahontas.
If few or none have campaigned with O, isn't this very unusual for an incumbent POTUS?
Posted by: Mayday at October 03, 2012 03:43 PM (F3s39)
He made sure he registered to vote before he left.\
I'm still having nightmares over the things he told us they went through.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 03, 2012 03:45 PM (UOM48)
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That would make a good zinger line. Obama is leaving the country in much worse shape than he received it.
Posted by: Mayday at October 03, 2012 03:45 PM (F3s39)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 03, 2012 03:46 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Hidajunshinette at October 03, 2012 03:46 PM (20NzC)
I feel sick to my stomach, and part of it is still being sick with bronchitis, and then pneumonia.
Ugh.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 03, 2012 03:47 PM (UOM48)
That's the anti-White theory. Flash mobs, polar bear hunts and knockout king are the anti-White practice.
Plus anti-White job discrimination and other anti-White legislation of course; whatever plunders Whites is good, whether it's legal or non-legal, violent or non-violent.
Posted by: Daybreaker at October 03, 2012 10:15 PM (iPoaM)
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