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October 03, 2012

Oct 3-4, 1993: The Battle of Mogadishu
— Dave in Texas

Hard to believe it's been 19 years.

Two Medals of Honor were awarded, to MSG Gary Gordon and SFC Randy Shughart, along with seven Silver Stars, ten Bronze Stars, and an awful lot of Purple Hearts.

The crew of Super 6-4, ~~3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment~~ 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, about a month before the battle.

*corrected via xbradtc

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 07:12 AM | Comments (160)
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1 Scary stuff and unbelievable heroism.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 03, 2012 07:16 AM (R8hU8)

2 was this Bush's fault or 1 of Romney's gaffes ?

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at October 03, 2012 07:16 AM (Vk2CC)

3 in honor of which The President plans to play 19 holes today.

Posted by: mallfly at October 03, 2012 07:16 AM (bJm7W)

4 Nineteen years later, and we're STILL sending Americans into known hot zones without adequate support/firepower.

Americans are STILL dying because of it.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 03, 2012 07:17 AM (fwARV)

There are some places on earth that beg to be nuked.

Mogadishu is one of them.

Posted by: jwest at October 03, 2012 07:17 AM (ZDsRL)

6 G-d bless them. And as for Bill Clinton...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2012 07:20 AM (+tqYo)

7 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 07:20 AM (8y9MW)

8 You see, the white man get blackhawk. The government is racist! Black man get the Obama PHO!!!!!! Keep Obama in Presentdent!

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 03, 2012 07:21 AM (UZQM8)

9 Irene! Irene, f'ing Irene!

It really is hard to believe it's 19 years ago. I'm glad that the attempt to paint to troops in a bad light via the movie Black Hawk Down failed miserably. In fact, it was a great movie.

Book is fantastic, too. Mark Bowden is a must read, for me.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at October 03, 2012 07:21 AM (i2Lsf)

10 Hey, we got a great movie out of it!

Posted by: Hollywierd Libtards at October 03, 2012 07:23 AM (e0xKF)

11 It cannot possibly be that long. There are those now fighting in Afghanistan who were tiny tiny little babies when this happened. I pray every night that this country once again has a President who is worthy of the sacrifices of such men.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 03, 2012 07:23 AM (VtjlW)

12 The incident that Osama specifically cited as causing him to conclude that the US was a paper tiger. Thanks Clinton, thanks Les Aspin.

Posted by: joncelli at October 03, 2012 07:23 AM (RD7QR)

13 So, Obama follows "I Like Tits Daily"? Ace will endorse him over Romney in about, oh, 3 days.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 03, 2012 07:25 AM (B/VB5)

14 I'm glad that the attempt to paint to troops in a bad light via the movie Black Hawk Down failed miserably. In fact, it was a great movie.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at October 03, 2012 11:21 AM (i2Lsf)

Not too sure what you mean by that. I thought the movie made these guys look like the heroes they are/were. One of my favorites.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx says fuck islam at October 03, 2012 07:25 AM (GRvW4)

15 Which game you changing jon, Nintendo or Playstation?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 03, 2012 07:25 AM (IOuIz)

16 Dave, you got TB3K handy?

Posted by: fluffy at October 03, 2012 07:25 AM (z9HTb)

17 10 Hey, that obama video sure was some game changing stuff, huh? Posted by: Jon at October 03, 2012 11:21 AM (21cGW) Meh, if people didn't already know that he was a race pimp then they are fools who cast their votes foolishly. As for saying Katrina victims got a shitty deal... fuck him. They got free transport, looting at each stop along the way. They also have received free housing plus free rides plus free food so on and so on and so on. Some of them are still riding the sweet Katrina stash to this day. So fuck Obama and his bullshit claims.

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 03, 2012 07:25 AM (UZQM8)

18 Hey Jon, you fucking baby dick, what party does Tim Kaine belong to?

Posted by: Adam at October 03, 2012 07:26 AM (/YJYi)

19 The African Union has almost restored some kind of national government to Somalia, only 21 years after the last one. Almost, maybe. Of course the Al Shabab Islamic jihadis will resume a terror bombing, kidnapping, assassination campaign as soon as they regroup.

Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2012 07:26 AM (sOtz/)

20 Bill Clinton has a special place reserved for him in Hell. Here's hoping he checks in soon.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 03, 2012 07:26 AM (i0App)

21 It cannot possibly be that long. There are those now fighting in Afghanistan who were tiny tiny little babies when this happened.

Hell, some of them probably weren't even born yet.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 03, 2012 07:26 AM (da5Wo)

22 Now your have a commander in brief,

Posted by: clemenza at October 03, 2012 07:27 AM (afx6B)

Your whining has no place on this thread, Jon. Go fuck your mother some more, okay?

PS - Speaking of your mother, she still hates you.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 03, 2012 07:27 AM (4df7R)

24 I'll have the history re-written and insert myself in the narrative.

Posted by: Barry O at October 03, 2012 07:27 AM (wIgpo)

25

Indomitable courage in the face of overwhelming odds. Love of brothers despite danger to life and limb. Pure skinny-wasting badassery. For all the bad things about the Battle of Mogadishu, it certainly was a triumph of American soldiers and personal virtues among the men in it.

Posted by: imp at October 03, 2012 07:28 AM (JybBe)

26 Jon can't actually fuck his mother. He'd need a dick for that.

Post-op, and all. His friends refer to him as Joni, now.

He does beg her fuck him in the ass with a strap-on, however. He LOVES it.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx says fuck islam at October 03, 2012 07:29 AM (GRvW4)

Some of them are still riding the sweet Katrina stash to this day. So fuck Obama and his bullshit claims.

And increased the crime rate in Houston 50%.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 03, 2012 07:29 AM (R8hU8)

28 Duh, we are running Romney in 2016. As the incumbent.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2012 07:29 AM (qigku)

29 As for saying Katrina victims got a shitty deal... fuck him. They got free transport, looting at each stop along the way. They also have received free housing plus free rides plus free food so on and so on and so on. Some of them are still riding the sweet Katrina stash to this day. So fuck Obama and his bullshit claims. Posted by: cajun carrot at October 03, 2012 11:25 AM (UZQM

Know who got screwed in Katrina - The city of Houston, they shipped all the low-lives there...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 03, 2012 07:29 AM (136wp)

30 Not too sure what you mean by that. I thought the movie made these guys look like the heroes they are/were. One of my favorites.

I agree, it makes them look like heroes, and is one of my favorite movies to watch.

But I have read that it wasn't Hollywood's intent for that message to come through in that movie. Maybe I'm wrong and the sources are wrong, but it's easy to believe that spin. Hoot is the one I point to. Some of the things the character says, seems to point the movie in a different direction. But his actions speak louder than his words.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at October 03, 2012 07:30 AM (i2Lsf)

>> Dave, you got TB3K handy?

Why yes, yes I do.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 03, 2012 07:30 AM (WvXvd)

32 Tim Kaine is a republican, I swear it. I also do not fuck my mother. I fuck my father. And I have since I was seven. It's natural, just ask Gawker.

Posted by: Jon at October 03, 2012 07:30 AM (/YJYi)

33 26 I'll have the history re-written and insert myself in the narrative.

Posted by: Barry O at October 03, 2012 11:27 AM (wIgpo)

Wait.... look! You were there.... see that empty chair?

Posted by: MemeMan! Stronger than Truth! at October 03, 2012 07:30 AM (lZBBB)

34 The above pictured: Real Human Beings Obama and his people's: A bunch of losers who perpetuate slavery on those who'd rather call themselves victims of a system that should be teaching them to wear the right clothes and have someone tie their shoes. Oh, and a noonie with a big O on it. MOAR Blackhawks, less shoe tying.

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 03, 2012 07:31 AM (UZQM8)

35 I see the trolls are back. The recent polls must have them rattled, or the video does.

Something.

When they were missing early in the week, I could tell that Obama's polling had improved over the weekend.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2012 07:31 AM (qigku)

36 hey Jon, what do you make of that National Journal poll yesterday showing a tie with a 2008 turnout model of Dem + 7?

Posted by: CalGal at October 03, 2012 07:31 AM (mnpQF)

37 Hoot is the one I point to. Some of the things the character says, seems to point the movie in a different direction. But his actions speak louder than his words.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at October 03, 2012 11:30 AM (i2Lsf)

Excellent job by Bana.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx says fuck islam at October 03, 2012 07:31 AM (GRvW4)

38 Who are you guys gonna run in 2016?

Posted by: Jon at October 03, 2012 11:24 AM (21cGW)

Fucking peasant. This thread is for remembering real heroes.

Posted by: Invictus at October 03, 2012 07:32 AM (OQpzc)

39 Thanks for the reminder, Dave.

Posted by: Andy at October 03, 2012 07:32 AM (5Rurq)

40 So I could easily be wrong but I thought all the Black Hawk crews were 160th SOAR?

Posted by: Adam at October 03, 2012 07:32 AM (/YJYi)

41 I point to articles like this:

http://is.gd/3lipTZ

Daily Beast link, from 2008.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at October 03, 2012 07:32 AM (i2Lsf)

42 I'll have the history re-written and insert myself in the narrative.

Took some time off from the Chicago bathhouses to join the SNA, did ya?

Lol, no one's gonna believe that.

Posted by: Radish the Grouch at October 03, 2012 07:33 AM (/kI1Q)

Awesome movie.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 03, 2012 07:33 AM (GvYeG)

It pisses me the hell off when Axeldouche trolls like Jon show up in a thread dedicated to the bravery and sacrifice of America's finest and proceed to smear their feces around like spoiled children who want attention at a fucking funeral and won't stop screaming until they get it. It's childish, self-absorbed, disrespectful, and rude.

That's why regressives have no problem doing it.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 03, 2012 07:33 AM (4df7R)

45 Just wait till TFG pushes the button to send the hardasses in camo to pick up Stevens's killers. He desparately wants to send in a raid to do this. Killing them won't be of any value to him politically, because opponents could say how the fuck do we know they are really the guys. Even if all the MFM says, "yeah, they were the killers!" there could be seeds of doubt and our opposition would be tooting it out loudly. But a scoop-up will happen, and then we will be treated to a ten day period or more, in which the MFM and the WH will hold the longest and loudest victory party in history, in an attempt to dominate the news feeds. Will this win it for him? Probably.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 03, 2012 07:34 AM (PH+2B)

46 Know who got screwed in Katrina - The city of Houston, they shipped all the low-lives there... Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 03, 2012 11:29 AM (136wp) Yes I know, I came here 2 years after Katrina. The office we were renting out was right next to a brand fucking new all brick apartment complex full of Escalades and Suburbans, nicely tricked out w/ rims and wheels. But they were mad that it was conveniently located off of Beltway 8. While I was still in Broussard the fuckers were going to casino's blowing their gov checks there. Everyone of them throwing $100 a round of blackjack, the fucking idiots. I don't have one ounce of sympathy for their plight... not after those 4 years. Meanwhile MS and AL still to this day have stretches of beach that are completely fucked. The Man holding em down my ass.

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 03, 2012 07:34 AM (UZQM8)

47 Know who got screwed in Katrina - The city of Houston, they shipped all the low-lives there... I remember listening to Neal Boortz 2 or 3 days after Katrina and a caller from a Sears said a Katrina "refugee" had just come in and used their Red Cross assistance credit card to buy a big flatscreen, a PlayStation, and a copy of Madden.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 03, 2012 07:35 AM (B/VB5)

48 Oh, Jonny, you subhuman piece of shit...did the free-loading Katrina huckster ward heeler's Negro-dialect remarks make you nervous about November? Are you afraid Romney might kick you out of your FEMA double-wide?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 03, 2012 07:35 AM (Ec6wH)

49 Why yes, yes I do.

Wow, you make it look easy.

Posted by: fluffy at October 03, 2012 07:35 AM (z9HTb)

50 n the movie, Obi Wan's character, the clerk who goes out on the mission, the guy who makes the coffee in the middle of the firefight? I loved that character. Knew guys like that. "It's all in the grind, sir."

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 03, 2012 07:35 AM (/1U3u)

In October 1993, while supporting the requirements of the President of the United States, Night Stalkers engaged an unconventional, hostile force in Somalia. The Soldiers of the 160th entered into an 18-hour firefight of intensity that had not been encountered since Vietnam. This battle resulted in the loss of five Night Stalkers and eight aircraft damaged or destroyed. The dedicated efforts exhibited by these Soldiers to overcome adversity and rescue fellow comrades once again demonstrated that Â“Night Stalkers DonÂ’t Quit.Â” The Regiment supported Operation Uphold Democracy in late 1994, validating the Adaptive Joint Force Package concept, by conducting missions from the aircraft carrier USS America. Since February 2001, the Regiment had been comprised of three assault battalions, 1st and 2nd Bns. at Fort Campbell and 3rd Bn. at Hunter Army Airfield, Ga.; the Headquarters Company at Fort Campbell; the Special Operations Aviation Training Company at Fort Campbell; D Co., 160th, forward deployed in support of U.S. Southern Command; and E Co., 160th, forward deployed in the U.S. Pacific Command area of responsibility.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 03, 2012 07:36 AM (R8hU8)

8 Black man get the Obama PHO!!!!!!

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Puppy tripe?

Posted by: Anachronda, confused by the intersection of Ebonics and Asian food at October 03, 2012 07:36 AM (xGZ+b)

53 Know who got screwed in Katrina - The city of Houston, they shipped all the low-lives there... --- Pretty much the whole state of Texas, not just Houston. San Antonio got it bad too, IIRC.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 07:37 AM (e0xKF)

29 I belonged to an organization that provided security for those evacuated to the big shelters in Dallas. Reunion Arena and the Dallas Convention Center had tens of thousands of the evacuated personnel. I can tell you for a fact, those people were treated with the utmost respect, generosity and care, even if their mayor and state government officials had let them down. Everybody involved busted their ass to help those people. So, as you can imagine, I find all those claims utter bullshit.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 03, 2012 07:37 AM (GvYeG)

55 I remember this. The American dead being dragged through the streets while a feckless administration real did not do much. And history repeats itself with another feckless administration.

Posted by: Penfold at October 03, 2012 07:37 AM (1PeEC)

56 Posted by: cajun carrot at October 03, 2012 11:34 AM (UZQM

To stay on topic, I wouldn't waste one of the above pictured lives on the scum that continue to race bait. Nor on the politicians they reward for using shakedown socialism to repress those that would work to raise themselves out of the misery these democrats would rather watch us wallow in.

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 03, 2012 07:37 AM (UZQM8)

57 50 n the movie, Obi Wan's character, the clerk who goes out on the mission, the guy who makes the coffee in the middle of the firefight? I loved that character. Knew guys like that. "It's all in the grind, sir." --- Unfortunately, that's one of the few fake characters in the film. The military insisted the real guy he was based on be left out because he's doing 30 years for child molestation.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 07:38 AM (e0xKF)

Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 03, 2012 11:34 AM (PH+2B)

I don't see it for two reasons...

1. The Libyan President is cooperating, but I don't think they will allow US troops in... which makes this an Act of War against a semi ally.... UN would be ALL over this.... (and Barry apparently cares more about the UN , than the US Citizens)...

2. The guys who did this are gone... the trail is cold... we could get 'some' guys, but it would be too transparent a political move for too little gain for someone not to call the Prezzy on it...

Posted by: MemeMan! Stronger than Truth! at October 03, 2012 07:39 AM (lZBBB)

59 Rasmussen MO senate: McCaskill 51 Akin 45.

Posted by: VBJonny at October 03, 2012 07:40 AM (mX1fc)

60 Super 6-4, and her crew, was part of the 160th SOAR (aka Nightstalkers). They, and the other helicopters that day from the 160th, carried and fought with the Rangers and Delta Force detachments that day.

Posted by: Angrybell at October 03, 2012 07:40 AM (cQ6oO)

61 55 I remember this. The American dead being dragged through the streets while a feckless administration real did not do much. And history repeats itself with another feckless administration. Posted by: Penfold at October 03, 2012 11:37 AM (1PeEC) Makes my blood boil thinking about it... and the f*ckers did the same to Amb. Stevens...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 03, 2012 07:40 AM (136wp)

62 Unfortunately, that's one of the few fake characters in the film. The military insisted the real guy he was based on be left out because he's doing 30 years for child molestation. Sometimes that happens. But from a Hollywood perspective, it was a very realistic characterization. I was EOD - I HATED Hurt Locker. But the characters were done very, very well.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 03, 2012 07:41 AM (/1U3u)

63 So, as you can imagine, I find all those claims utter bullshit. Posted by: Honey Badger at October 03, 2012 11:37 AM (GvYeG) What claims? The looting?

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 03, 2012 07:41 AM (UZQM8)

64 In October 1993, while supporting the requirements of the President of the
United States

Wikipedia (yeah, I know) informs me Clinton blames the failure of the mission on "conservative Republicans."

Just in case any of you were feeling nostalgic for that piece of shit.

Posted by: Radish the Grouch at October 03, 2012 07:43 AM (/kI1Q)

65 63 The claims that Katrina victims were treated in some substandard way because the majority of them were black.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 03, 2012 07:44 AM (GvYeG)

66 The film is excellent. So sad, yet so inspiring. Makes me proud to be an American.

Posted by: Big T Party at October 03, 2012 07:44 AM (SdNg8)

67 Just in case any of you were feeling nostalgic for that piece of shit. --- The only nostalgia I feel for him is at least he was smart enough to know which way the wind was blowing. Self-preservation made him do at least a few things in the nation's best interests, which is more than can be said for the JEF.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 07:45 AM (e0xKF)

68 Mark Bowden's book "Black Hawk Down" left me with four indelible images. The first was the view from above of Mogadishu from the open door of a helicopter, the city a total third-world wasteland, worse than anything imaginable by the set designers of the Mad Max movies. Second, the incredible level of skills demonstrated to the rangers by their delta force ("D-boys") cohorts. D-boy pops into a room where a pinned down ranger is cooped, asks where the bad guys are positioned, pulls out some tech and ammo gear from his pack, and wastes the skinnies two blocks away. Third, the loud racket created by the spent machine-gun brass raining down on the tin roofs of the shacks our guys are pinned down in, from the tiny little-bird heli gunships blasting down the boulevards at rooftop level, laying down fire at the skinnies. Fourth, the sound the rangers and D-boys can hear when the rescue convoy, a big array of mechanized armor, comes in after massing at the coast. Louder than any thunder imaginable, even to all of them with their ears just about blown from the incredible firefight they are in and have been in, the deafening booms of big bore guns is a wonderful sound to their near-deaf ears.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 03, 2012 07:45 AM (PH+2B)

69 65 63 The claims that Katrina victims were treated in some substandard way because the majority of them were black. Posted by: Honey Badger at October 03, 2012 11:44 AM (GvYeG) Hell, they were treated so well, I'm surprised they weren't assigned a personal ball washer...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 03, 2012 07:45 AM (136wp)

70 I agree, it makes them look like heroes, and is one of my favorite movies to watch. But I have read that it wasn't Hollywood's intent for that message to come through in that movie. Yup. It was supposed to be the modern Apocalypse Now showing the futility and pointlessness of war. I very nearly didn't see it because of that. That may be the intent but, if so, it only makes the characters that much more courageous.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 03, 2012 07:46 AM (VtjlW)

The one thing that is not mentioned about the battle in Mogadishu is that it is estimated we killed over a thousand of them. A great number of people think that our guys were killed without really inflicting great casualties on the enemy. We should have gone back and finished the job. Clinton. spit.

Posted by: polynikes at October 03, 2012 07:46 AM (m2CN7)

72 65 63 The claims that Katrina victims were treated in some substandard way because the majority of them were black. --- He should try telling the people of Mississippi that one and see if he makes it out of the room alive. People on the Gulf Coast got jack-shit compared to the ones in New Orleans bleating to the cameras.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 07:46 AM (e0xKF)

73 RLTW!

RIP brothers.

Posted by: EXILE at October 03, 2012 07:47 AM (GGCsk)

74 Obama's defense complacency:

http://tinyurl.com/9abnhla (Avaition Week)

'This does not bode well for R&D or innovation in the near- to mid-term. Bad enough that both company- and government-funded investment in technology is projected to decline substantially during the next few years as a direct result of sequestration. Exacerbating the situation will be the financial pressures that the smallest suppliers will come underÂ—companies that are responsible for most of the innovation in aerospace and defense."

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 03, 2012 07:47 AM (0It32)

75 LONDON (AP) -- The British lawyer for a notorious terror suspect wanted by U.S. officials says his client is too depressed and unhealthy to extradite.

Alun Jones told judges at London's High Court on Wednesday that extremist cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri is suffering from depression, inability to concentrate and short-term memory loss. Jones says he needs a brain scan and should not be extradited to America.

Aaaahhhhhhhh. The poor MF terrorist. I have a cure ... a HellFire missile should do it.

Posted by: Henry Kissinger at October 03, 2012 07:47 AM (e8kgV)

6155 I remember this. The American dead being dragged through the streets while a feckless administration real did not do much<<<<<

I was in Infantry OSUT in Ft. Benning, GA on that day. The only news story I saw the entire time I was there was the USA Today front page pic of Gary Gordon's naked body being dragged through Mogadishu.

We were frothing with rage and blood lust, begging to be sent to Somalia RIGHT NOW to get some fucking payback.

Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 03, 2012 07:48 AM (89rP2)

77 Clinton blames the failure of the mission on "conservative Republicans."

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I see that Pelosi blames the Libya killing on conservative Republicans:

Â“ItÂ’s also important to note that the Republican appropriation Congress gave the administration $300 million less than it asked for for the State Department, including funding for security,Â” said Pelosi.

    Â“Are you suggesting that there was a financial aspect to what happened in Benghazi, Libya,Â” Blitzer asked. Â“That the U.S. was not enough money to protect American diplomats?Â”

    Pelosi said that the Congress has the power of the purse, and that no one would know exactly what happened in Benghazi in the near future. Â“But we also have to look to ourselves in terms of that funding question,Â” said Pelosi.

    She went on to slam Republicans for not holding a full hearing on the events on Benghazi and said that Democrats had held a hearing on Medicare without Republicans.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 03, 2012 07:48 AM (Hx5uv)

78 Yup. It was supposed to be the modern Apocalypse Now showing the futility and pointlessness of war. I very nearly didn't see it because of that. That may be the intent but, if so, it only makes the characters that much more courageous. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 03, 2012 11:46 AM (VtjlW) And Coppola missed the point of Conrad's story, I'd love to see someone make a movie of my favorite Conrad story - "The Secret Sharer"

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 03, 2012 07:48 AM (136wp)

79 I remember this. The American dead being dragged through the streets while a feckless administration real did not do much. And history repeats itself with another feckless administration.

Posted by: Penfold at October 03, 2012 11:37 AM (1PeEC)

Once we got our people out of there I would have carpet bombed that shit hole

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 03, 2012 07:49 AM (1Jaio)

80 Jay in Ames, 11:30 - "I have read that it wasn't Hollywood's intent for that message to come through in that movie." Could be - I hadn't heard or read that. I can tell you that it's a favorite among soldiers with off-hours to kill in MWR centers far from home. You know another movie where the outcome wasn't what its makers intended? Fat Man and Little Boy (though come to think of it, the director of "The Kingdom" was appalled at audience enthusiasm for the jihadi-wasting scenes). I read that the director, lefty Brit Roland Joffe, wanted the audience to hate General Groves. Paul freakin' Newman, who I'm guessing was no fan of the general, played him (a much smaller and thinner version than in real life). But he played him as such a tough, effective son of a bitch, audiences admired him, a lot.

Posted by: JPS at October 03, 2012 07:50 AM (y+gat)

81 71 Should've gone back in and killed every last SOB that fired a shot at one of our guys. But President Clinton would have none of that.

Posted by: Big T Party at October 03, 2012 07:50 AM (lXyvK)

82 Once we got our people out of there I would have carpet bombed that shit hole Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 03, 2012 11:49 AM (1Jaio) There's no steel left in the heart of the American Political class.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 03, 2012 07:51 AM (136wp)

83 Â“ItÂ’s also important to note that the Republican appropriation Congress gave the administration $300 million less than it asked for for the State Department, including funding for security,Â” said Pelosi.

How many millions of dollars do her husband's businesses get from Congress every year?

Posted by: Radish the Grouch at October 03, 2012 07:53 AM (/kI1Q)

84 Once we got our people out of there I would have carpet bombed that shit hole

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 03, 2012 11:49 AM (1Jaio)

Then salted the earth and left it for the roaches.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 03, 2012 07:53 AM (4df7R)

85 72 65 63 The claims that Katrina victims were treated in some substandard way because the majority of them were black.

---

He should try telling the people of Mississippi that one and see if he makes it out of the room alive.

People on the Gulf Coast got jack-shit compared to the ones in New Orleans bleating to the cameras.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 11:46 AM (e0xKF)

Funny how that works, isn't it?

One group pulls themselves up by their bootstraps, takes care of themselves and their own, cleans up, and rebuilds without their hands stuck out.

The other group sits on their collective butts while the water rises, does not prepare in any way, waits for whitey to come carry them out, loots stores for non-essentual goods, demands to be clothed, fed, housed, etc.., does not do anything to rebuild their lives...just waits for the gov'ment and whitey to provide all so they can return to their thug lifestyle as quickly as possible.

What's the variable here? hmmmmmm

Posted by: Havedash at October 03, 2012 07:54 AM (F0WNa)

The one thing that is not mentioned about the battle in Mogadishu is that it is estimated we killed over a thousand of them. A great number of people think that our guys were killed withoutreally inflicting great casualties on the enemy. We should have gone back and finished the job<<<<<<

That's why I preferred Bowden's book over the movie.

In the book, when the Rangers get back to the stadium, a soldier there, looking at their dead and wounded says that he feels sorry for them.

The Ranger says that he shouldn't. He should "feel sorry for them, because we kicked their ass."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 03, 2012 07:54 AM (89rP2)

87 though come to think of it, the director of "The Kingdom" was appalled at audience enthusiasm for the jihadi-wasting scenes

It's like he didn't realize that people were already kind of aware that the Crusading Christians weren't the nicest of people. The problem was that he made out the badguy to be the badguy. Whoops.

If he'd wanted a "poor, peaceful Muslims" film, he should have shot it from the POV of Saladin. Instead, he shot it from the POV of one of two decent characters in the movie. The other decent character ends with his head on a Muslim spike. That made it really easy- even without already hating Jihadis, to hate Muslims in the movie.

He was going for "Oh, those evil Templars started the war, and then left their own to pick up the pieces." He didn't quite get there, though.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 07:54 AM (8y9MW)

88 I hope that Les Aspen went to hell for this.
The same can be said of whomever failed to approve additional security at the Libyan U.S. Consulate.

Posted by: Max Entropy at October 03, 2012 07:55 AM (8NvYT)

89 3 days after Katrina and a caller from a Sears said a Katrina "refugee" had just come in and used their Red Cross assistance credit card to buy a big flatscreen, a PlayStation, and a copy of Madden.

***

In 2005 we took a little trip
'Long with bunch of others to the Mighty Mississip.
We stole a little bacon and we stole a little beans
And we stole a bunch of flat screens with those big ole giant screens.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 03, 2012 07:55 AM (Hx5uv)

90 It's like he didn't realize that people were already kind of aware that the Crusading Christians weren't the nicest of people. The problem was that he made out the badguy to be the badguy. Whoops. --- That's "Kingdom of Heaven". "The Kingdom" is the one where terrorist fucks blow up a bunch of US military and their families and then an investigative team is sent into Saudi Arabia to determine what happens.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 07:55 AM (e0xKF)

91 "The Kingdom" is the one where terrorist fucks blow up a bunch of US military and their families and then an investigative team is sent into Saudi Arabia to determine what happens.

Oh, whoops. I didn't see that one, then.

I stand by my statements about KoH, though.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 07:56 AM (8y9MW)

92 That fiasco should have never taken place.

Posted by: maddogg at October 03, 2012 07:57 AM (OlN4e)

93 @78 Actually I think Coppola got Heart of Darkness pretty exactly.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 03, 2012 07:57 AM (/1U3u)

94 Posted by: Golan Globus at October 03, 2012 11:41 AM (/1U3u)

EOD? Where?

I have a good friend who was EOD.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 07:58 AM (2b4yb)

95 Bad enough that both company- and government-funded investment in technology is projected to decline substantially during the next few years as a direct result of sequestration. Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 03, 2012 11:47 AM (0It32) And how much are they cutting out of Lifeline? I bet not one fucking penny.

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 03, 2012 07:58 AM (UZQM8)

96 3 days after Katrina and a caller from a Sears said a Katrina "refugee"
had just come in and used their Red Cross assistance credit card to buy
a big flatscreen, a PlayStation, and a copy of Madden.

***

In 2005 we took a little trip
'Long with bunch of others to the Mighty Mississip.
We stole a little bacon and we stole a little beans
And we stole a bunch of flat screens with those big ole giant screens.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 03, 2012 11:55 AM (Hx5uv)

Well done

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 03, 2012 07:58 AM (nTgAI)

97 The crew of Super 64 were from 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (SOAR), not 3/75IN(RGR)

Posted by: xbradtc at October 03, 2012 07:58 AM (+FFD7)

98 Nuke Mogadishu? Why waste the money?

Standard dumb bombs ought to do it.

Posted by: navybrat at October 03, 2012 07:59 AM (OVxVk)

99 http://tinyurl.com/8w8acal (nola.com)
Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Nagin and his wife, Seletha, put the house on the market in November for $729,000, fueling speculation that they were pulling up stakes in New Orleans. The family began renting a townhouse in the Dallas suburb of Frisco shortly after Hurricane Katrina, finally buying the place as a second property in 2007.

---

Nagin didn't respond to an email sent Wednesday asking for comment. He initially tweeted a link Nov. 8 to a news story that the house was on the market, but he hasn't written an original tweet since June 28, according to his Twitter account. That's the day after federal court documents disclosed that he had accepted a $50,000 payoff while in office from city vendor Frank Fradella. Fradella has pleaded guilty to one count of securities fraud and one count of conspiring to bribe Nagin.

The mayor's aide and neighbor on Park Island, convicted former chief technology officer Greg Meffert, has also tried to unload his home. It spent 15 months on the market before it was removed from the listings last year. Meffert, who is facing eight years in federal prison for accepting bribes while working at City Hall, had asked for $779,000. He bought it for $725,000 in 2002, shortly after accepting a job in Nagin's administration.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 03, 2012 07:59 AM (0It32)

100 Political correctness has killed more of our troops than anything else....Just read our "rules of engagement "

GOD Bless our HEROES in foreign lands....

Posted by: AmericanDawg at October 03, 2012 07:59 AM (COr7y)

101 @80 - I knew GEN Groves grandson. Newman apparently got Groves down perfectly.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 03, 2012 07:59 AM (/1U3u)

102 91 I thought "the Kingdom" was pretty darn good movie. Never saw "the Kingdom of Heaven", thought it was pro-muzzie.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 03, 2012 07:59 AM (GvYeG)

103 OT: For what it's worth, this is the second column I've seen suggesting that Fauxcahontus Warren is the one to beat in the race for the White House in 2016.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/92txc5c

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 03, 2012 07:59 AM (Hx5uv)

104 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 11:54 AM (8y9MW)

I don't think you're talking about the same movie.

Posted by: joncelli at October 03, 2012 08:00 AM (RD7QR)

105 @94 - Athens, Greece, and Vicenza, Italy. Hardship tours.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 03, 2012 08:00 AM (/1U3u)

106 Never saw "the Kingdom of Heaven", thought it was pro-muzzie.

It tries to be. But it kind of fails. I own it on DVD and rewatch it every now and again.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 08:00 AM (8y9MW)

107 I don't think you're talking about the same movie.

We weren't. We covered that already.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 08:01 AM (8y9MW)

108 91"The Kingdom" is the one where terrorist fucks blow up a bunch of US
military and their families and then an investigative team is sent into
Saudi Arabia to determine what happens<<<<< I don't know why people hated the ending. It was perfect. They will always hate us, and teach their children to hate us. As for Jamie Foxx, he SHOULD have hated them. Perfectly realistic.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 03, 2012 08:01 AM (89rP2)

109 Mogadishu is proof positive that good deeds are always punished. The whole fucking goddam shithole fucked up moosedicked excuse for a country wasn't worth ONE American soldier's life.

Posted by: maddogg at October 03, 2012 08:01 AM (OlN4e)

110 103 OT: For what it's worth, this is the second column I've seen suggesting that Fauxcahontus Warren is the one to beat in the race for the White House in 2016. --- If Lieawatha is considered a Dem favorite for 2016, it means their bench is in shambles. The Libya clusterfuck has pretty much taken out Hillary, which means the nomination is Andrew Cuomo's to lose if he wants it.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 08:02 AM (e0xKF)

111

A couple of Abrams and an AC-130 and this would have never happened.

Les Aspin--you asshole.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 03, 2012 08:02 AM (B+qrE)

112 I'd always heard "The Kingdom" (now that we're all on the same page) was pro Muslim, too. I guess I should take the time to watch it, though. Even if it has Jamie Foxx in it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 08:02 AM (8y9MW)

113 There were not significant reservations about the raid when it was being planned. People's recollections (even some in the article) were "we can do this". It was a mission and Rangers always complete the mission.

Sure in retrospect, one can say things like why are we acting as a UN police force? Why are we depending on foreign forces as our QRF backup? Why in God's name didn't Clinton authorize the heavy equipment that was needed to protect our guys when this thing went South?

Certainly those are covered in the lessons learned and ingrained in today's battle plans.

But none of them. Not one. Takes away from the sacrifice, valor, bravery and honor expended and gained by all on that mission.

Posted by: EXILE at October 03, 2012 08:03 AM (GGCsk)

114 93 @78 Actually I think Coppola got Heart of Darkness pretty exactly. Posted by: Golan Globus at October 03, 2012 11:57 AM (/1U3u) Well, this is a Sunday Morning Book Thread discussion, but Coppola turned it into a nihilistic romp down the Mekong with the main character learning nothing but a reaffirmation of his own world view. He leaves off how Marlow's meeting with the finance overcomes the darkness.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 03, 2012 08:03 AM (136wp)

115 The only bad thing about The Kingdom was Jamie Foxx. Didn't get a pro muzzie feeling from it.

Posted by: Adam at October 03, 2012 08:03 AM (/YJYi)

116

Andrew Cuomo's to lose if he wants it

This. Since Brown is going to beat Warren like a tom-tom (GET IT?), I don't think we'll be hearing from her very much after November 6.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 03, 2012 08:03 AM (B+qrE)

117 Speaking of Medals of Honor, I have been invited to a MoH ceremony Monday morning Ill be surrounded by a bunch of guys wearing them cause the yearly gathering is here I'm torn between busting out the old uniform or a suit

Posted by: Navycopjoe (iphone5 snob) at October 03, 2012 08:03 AM (+Aarq)

118

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 03, 2012 08:04 AM (BAS5M)

119 Posted by: Golan Globus at October 03, 2012 12:00 PM (/1U3u)

My buddy was in Sicily (Sigonella), and on a mine sweeper in the the first Gulf War.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 08:04 AM (2b4yb)

120 Fauxcahontus Warren is the one to beat in the race for the White House in 2016

Sweet Osiris' phallus, Romney hasn't even been inaugurated yet.

Posted by: Radish the Grouch at October 03, 2012 08:04 AM (/kI1Q)

121 Speaking of Medals of Honor, I have been invited to a MoH ceremony Monday morning

Call TFG a SCOAMF for the Horde.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 08:05 AM (8y9MW)

122 Golan Globus, @101: Wow - interesting connection, and interesting that that was his opinion.

Posted by: JPS at October 03, 2012 08:05 AM (y+gat)

123 Posted by: cajun carrot at October 03, 2012 11:58 AM (UZQM

Guess all those contractors'll have to move to China and build cell phones.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 03, 2012 08:05 AM (0It32)

124 "Fauxcahontus Warren is the one to beat in the race for the White House in 2016" I say we cut out the BS and beat her now...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 03, 2012 08:05 AM (136wp)

125 Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 12:02 PM (e0xKF)

Cuomo is a smart politician. He would be a challenge.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 08:05 AM (2b4yb)

126 Thanks for the correction xbradtc!

Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 03, 2012 08:06 AM (g7vVd)

127 Irene.

I say again, Irene.

IRENE!!!!! FUCKING IRENE!!!!

Posted by: EC at October 03, 2012 08:06 AM (GQ8sn)

128

99 I remember when Nagin showed up at the Dallas shelters, he was a pompous ass. He was very unpopular with the evacuees, we almost had a riot. I have no idea how he got re-elected. Colin Powell showed up as well, before he became a giant asshat. He took time to shake hands with a lot of the LEOs and military personnel providing security.

I was posted several times at the entrance where news crews and celebs would enter; Oprah didnt arrive on my watch, but that was a crazy deal.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 03, 2012 08:07 AM (GvYeG)

129 Posted by: Navycopjoe (iphone5 snob) at October 03, 2012 12:03 PM (+Aarq)

That should be interesting.

A description of the ceremony e-mailed to Dave In Texas would be a good post.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 08:08 AM (2b4yb)

130 If you seek gratitude in others, you will always be disappointed.

Posted by: weft fu zi [/i] [/b] at October 03, 2012 08:08 AM (vY2x+)

131 125 Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 12:02 PM (e0xKF) Cuomo is a smart politician. He would be a challenge. --- He's a smart one, so he may be able to read the tea leaves and say "Obama's such a SCOAMF that no Dem will win for at least 8 years." I don't see him running out there to play Walter Mondale in 2016 if Obama loses.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 08:08 AM (e0xKF)

132

These good Men, Voted with their MAN PARTS....

Hmmm.... OK.... as a Man going his own way kinda guy.... we need to spread THAT messege...

Yep... Obama, the Metro, will kill Americas ability to project Power... so if you want America to have Cojones? Vote for Man Parts...

Posted by: MemeMan! Stronger than Truth! at October 03, 2012 08:08 AM (lZBBB)

133 I have no idea how he got re-elected. --- The election came down to Nagin and a different blatantly racist asshat IIRC. The white vote swung to Nagin in the runoff.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 08:09 AM (e0xKF)

134 "Book is fantastic, too. Mark Bowden is a must read, for me."

Loved the Book! It read like a Clancy novel...back when Clancy actually wrote the books with his name on them.

Posted by: Paladin at October 03, 2012 08:09 AM (mCOPv)

135 Amazing men among men fighting against horrible odds. The kill ratio on enemy land is just amazing. God bless those men. Read the book, watch the movie and tell me that all civilizations and cultures are equal.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at October 03, 2012 08:09 AM (X7MMs)

136 Oprah didnt arrive on my watch, but that was a crazy deal.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 03, 2012 12:07 PM (GvYeG)

Did she pass out Pontiacs?

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 03, 2012 08:09 AM (0It32)

137 136 Oprah didnt arrive on my watch, but that was a crazy deal. Posted by: Honey Badger at October 03, 2012 12:07 PM (GvYeG) Did she pass out Pontiacs? --- If she did, I think there would be footage of people screaming at her that it's a shame they aren't getting Escalades.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 08:10 AM (e0xKF)

138

128
99 I remember when Nagin showed up at the Dallas shelters, he was a pompous ass. He was very unpopular with the evacuees, we almost had a riot. I have no idea how he got re-elected.

Dude. Please. Think about it. What color is Nagin? You don't really think Chocolate folks in N.O. vote on the basis of performance do you?

Posted by: maddogg at October 03, 2012 08:10 AM (OlN4e)

139 @80 "Biggest fucking stick on the playground."
My heart swelled with pride. Couldn't believe Newman took the role.
He was the man who built the Pentagon. No, the actual building.
Under budget and ahead of schedule, FTW.

Posted by: comatus at October 03, 2012 08:11 AM (qaVK+)

140 Dude. Please. Think about it. What color is Nagin? You don't really think Chocolate folks in N.O. vote on the basis of performance do you?

Posted by: maddogg at October 03, 2012 12:10 PM (OlN4e)

Lived in the DC area 80's, 90's and up til 2004. Same with Marion Barry. They put him back in office (7 D, I think) as a big fuck-you to Whitey. They actually said that.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx says fuck islam at October 03, 2012 08:15 AM (GRvW4)

141 138 They apparently got over it, but at the time (this never made the news), we were physically restraining the crowd. They would have torn that man apart. Guess they got over it. Of course a lot of that bunch never went back to New Orleans. They stayed in Texas. Never thought about that really, that may be the answer right there.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 03, 2012 08:15 AM (GvYeG)

142 >> A description of the ceremony e-mailed to Dave In Texas would be a good post. Indeed

Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 03, 2012 08:17 AM (J/5jZ)

143 During that incident, there was a CIA civil servant on top of the soccer stadium, directing sniper fire. He was just months from retirement, and had been musing over how to spend his free time when this was over. He came to the decision that day that he'd like to coach a junior rifle team.

Two years later, the Northern Virginia Optimists' Acorn Juniors won the National Matches. Outright, not the junior division. Beat Army Marksmanship Unit. Two of his daughters were on the team. I have had the privilege of meeting one of them, and of watching her shoot, too.

Posted by: comatus at October 03, 2012 08:17 AM (qaVK+)

144 Of course a lot of that bunch never went back to New Orleans. They stayed in Texas. Never thought about that really, that may be the answer right there. --- They allowed "absentee voting" in the mayor's election for all the evacuees, IIRC.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 08:18 AM (e0xKF)

145 @122 - yes, his grandson thought the depiction spot on. And interestingly enough, it provided a lot of insight into his grandson.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 03, 2012 08:18 AM (/1U3u)

146 @119 - a Navy EOD guy then - all the fun of EOD, but you have to do it underwater. Same timeframe, though.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 03, 2012 08:19 AM (/1U3u)

147 Shooting is an activity that a woman's natural abilities are well suited to, like welding. They can be incredibly good at both.

Posted by: maddogg at October 03, 2012 08:20 AM (OlN4e)

148 @139 - he built the Pentagon in something like 9 months (I could look it up). A lot less time than the repairs took from the 9/11 attacks. Sometimes I wonder why we can't do that anymore.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 03, 2012 08:21 AM (/1U3u)

149 Is important to remember a few things.

1- The lack of armor sent to Mogadishu was a political decision made by Clinton's admin.

2- The shift to grabbing tribal leaders was Clinton's decision.

3- Prior to the Rangers and Tenth Mountain being there the area was controlled by the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit which had the place pretty locked down. Why? Because the MEU has armor and air as components and so did not have to ask for armor as was later requested by the Army. That request was denied because as Sec Def Aspen said, "Tanks would appear to warlike."

Posted by: typo dynamofo at October 03, 2012 08:23 AM (JPfSc)

150

It was the moment President Bill Clinton wanted to restore his tattered reputation with the military before his departure for the D-Day celebrations in Europe this week, James Adams reports.

He had just presented posthumous Congressional Medals of Honour, America's highest military decoration, to the widows of two soldiers for valour in Somalia. After inviting the families for a moment of quiet reflection in the Oval Office, the president approached Herbert Shughart, the father of one of the two soldiers, and offered his hand.

To his astonishment the handshake was declined. ''You are not fit to be president of the United States,'' said Shughart Senior. ''The blame for my son's death rests with the White House and with you. You are not fit to command.''

The president reeled and the unprecedented onslaught continued for some minutes. According to witnesses it was a ''highly charged emotional moment'' which resulted in Clinton trying to explain to Shughart,Sr. why the events of that day last October were not his fault.

Posted by: EXILE at October 03, 2012 08:24 AM (GGCsk)

151 Sometimes I wonder why we can't do that anymore. --- Labor unions and "environmental impact statements" would be my guess.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 08:24 AM (e0xKF)

152 If you're a Dem, you're probably going to reach for the most Liberal candidate you can think of when contemplating 2016 and the empty bench. But there is no way that a known fraud with zero elected experience gets the nod unless Romney is at 75 percent approval and it's a kamikaze campaign.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 03, 2012 08:26 AM (HethX)

153 But there is no way that a known fraud with zero elected experience gets the nod unless Romney is at 75 percent approval and it's a kamikaze campaign. --- Her running would be similar to the Dims throwing McGovern out there in '72.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 08:27 AM (e0xKF)

154

Time for a remake.

Now which soldiers should we make gay...

Posted by: Hollywood at October 03, 2012 08:28 AM (SO2Q8)

155 We still haven't recovered the remains of SFC Randy Shugart and MSG Gary Gordon. We should shell and/or bomb a new section of the Mog every day until we do.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at October 03, 2012 08:37 AM (S8U9b)

156 Mogadishu would actually improve if it were nuked. In fact Somalia itself would improve if it could be wiped out. Fuck Somalia. Never again.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 03, 2012 08:40 AM (YOonc)

157 Will do Oh, the presenter I believe is my senator inoyne (sp) Who also has a MoH

Posted by: Navycopjoe (iphone5 snob) at October 03, 2012 08:48 AM (eYiNi)

158 NSDQ!

Posted by: SARDiver at October 03, 2012 09:34 AM (xiXJp)

159 >155 We still haven't recovered the remains of SFC Randy Shugart and MSG Gary Gordon. We should shell and/or bomb a new section of the Mog every day until we do.<

Incorrect.

Both bodies MSG Gordon and SFC's Shughart's bodies were recovered and buried in their hometowns.

Posted by: EXILE at October 03, 2012 09:42 AM (GGCsk)

160 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 03, 2012 11:21 AM (6o4Fb)

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