March 18, 2014
— Ace We are well and truly in the very best of hands.
In late February, a report from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced that obesity rates among children aged 2 to 5 had declined by 40 to 43 percent in the past eight years, a dramatic and encouraging finding. But researchers are now saying that the good news may have been a statistical mistake....
The CDCÂ’s study relied on a set of government-collected data thatÂ’s considered highly reliable, but wasnÂ’t ideal for this comparison: The study looked at over 9,000 Americans, but just 871 were between 2 and 5, and just a small proportion of them are obese. The margin of error, in fact, was wide enough that itÂ’s statistically possible there was no decrease at all.
This Reuters article explains why there's doubt:
If the news last month that the prevalence of obesity among American preschoolers had plunged 43 percent in a decade sounded too good to be true, that's because it probably was, researchers say....
In fact, based on the researchers' own data, the obesity rate may have even risen rather than declined.
"You need to have a healthy degree of skepticism about the validity of this finding," said Dr. Lee Kaplan, director of the weight center at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston.
...
In some research 871 would be considered a large number. But when the obesity rate is fairly low, having a sample of a few hundred makes it easier for errors to creep in through random chance.
"In small samples like this, you are going to have chance fluctuations," said epidemiologist Geoffrey Kabat of the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City.
...
The 13.9 percent obesity rate among preschoolers reported for 2003-2004 had a large enough margin of error that the actual rate could range between 10.8 percent and 17.6 percent, the CDC authors acknowledged. The 8.4 percent rate in 2011-2012 reported could range from 5.9 percent and 11.6 percent.
There are no other studies suggesting what this study claims. A WIC study (with 200,000 kids in it) found a small downward decrease in obesity rates, but nothing like 43%.
As I mentioned yesterday, the scientists involved in finding gravitational waves actually discovered, they thought, evidence of the waves three years ago. They spent the last three years amassing more evidence, and checking their math.
The video here shows one of the researchers coming to a scientist's house to inform him they'd determined the evidence had been proven to be very statistically sound. "5-sigma, 0.2 r," the researcher tells the scientist, which means nothing to me, but it means a lot to the scientist.
We have nowhere near this kind of rigor in the so-called "soft sciences," obviously. People just crank out study after study. Tiny, shaky findings of correlation are trumpeted as being very meaningful.
It's really pretty embarrassing.
A 43% drop in preschool obesity, with no other data supporting such a thing, and no plausible mechanism explaining such a sharp drop, shouldn't really have been reported.
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Posted by: Mallfly at March 18, 2014 01:25 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: fastfreefall at March 18, 2014 01:25 PM (HN4m+)
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 18, 2014 01:25 PM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: pep at March 18, 2014 01:26 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 18, 2014 01:26 PM (8ZskC)
Hmm?
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 18, 2014 01:26 PM (ligos)
Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at March 18, 2014 01:26 PM (V40IZ)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 18, 2014 01:27 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Zombie Pug at March 18, 2014 01:27 PM (r7mtu)
Perhaps there is a problem in the urban areas where kids are babysit by the TVs and do nothing but eat snacks and watch TV all day.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 18, 2014 01:27 PM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Capt. Ahab at March 18, 2014 01:27 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 18, 2014 01:27 PM (YEelc)
Posted by: fastfreefall at March 18, 2014 01:27 PM (HN4m+)
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I think that means something like you got to read between the lines or something because....ewok
Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at March 18, 2014 01:27 PM (V40IZ)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 18, 2014 01:28 PM (V4CBV)
Posted by: GDP, Unemployment, and Sales figures, as you like them at March 18, 2014 01:28 PM (eoeps)
Posted by: Zombie Pug at March 18, 2014 01:28 PM (r7mtu)
Posted by: Mallfly at March 18, 2014 01:28 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Michelle Obama at March 18, 2014 01:28 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 18, 2014 01:28 PM (xZxMD)
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Posted by: Hairy Reed at March 18, 2014 01:28 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson (D, Georgia) at March 18, 2014 01:29 PM (yFb77)
Posted by: Moriarty at March 18, 2014 01:29 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: Zombie Pug at March 18, 2014 01:30 PM (r7mtu)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 18, 2014 01:30 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at March 18, 2014 01:30 PM (V40IZ)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 18, 2014 01:30 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Templar Organ Collector at March 18, 2014 01:30 PM (eoeps)
Posted by: Y-not at March 18, 2014 01:30 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 18, 2014 01:30 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: MSM at March 18, 2014 01:31 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Meghan McCain at March 18, 2014 01:31 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 18, 2014 01:31 PM (vHRtU)
Posted by: forest at March 18, 2014 01:31 PM (stMuz)
Studies are like a**holes; everyone's got one. And we have enough of your money to give everyone at least two.
Posted by: Washington, D.C. at March 18, 2014 01:31 PM (1CroS)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 18, 2014 01:31 PM (kxSZr)
Posted by: Y-not at March 18, 2014 01:31 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: fastfreefall at March 18, 2014 01:32 PM (HN4m+)
If she comes out as ghey, can he be sued and forced back to work?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 18, 2014 01:32 PM (YEelc)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 18, 2014 01:32 PM (ZPrif)
Switch out the alcohol for meth. The pounds will melt right off, along with your incisors.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 18, 2014 01:32 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Zombie Pug at March 18, 2014 01:32 PM (r7mtu)
Fat children are more difficult to harvest
Posted by: Templar Organ Collector at March 18, 2014 05:30 PM (eoeps)
Nah. Zombieland Rule #1
Cardio.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 18, 2014 01:32 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 18, 2014 05:31 PM (vHRtU)
USB port open. Hit me!
Posted by: Insomniac at March 18, 2014 01:32 PM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 18, 2014 01:33 PM (jhfwW)
Posted by: MSNBC at March 18, 2014 01:33 PM (yFb77)
He kept insisting that PopTarts and Funyums aren't really health food.
Posted by: pep at March 18, 2014 01:33 PM (4nR9/)
"5-sigma, 0.2 r," the researcher tells the scientist, which means nothing to me, but it means nothing to the scientist.
5-sigma is five standard deviation units from the mean (making it way down the skinny bit of the bell curve), and correlation is measured in R^2, so I'm going with "0.2 r is somehow correlated with correlation, or other measures of correlarity".
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 18, 2014 01:33 PM (JtwS4)
I don't believe anything coming out of govenment offices or anyone that works for government offices. Too many lies. Too much propaganda.
I'm tired. I'm going to take a nap.
If anyone finds flight 370, wake me up.
Posted by: Soona at March 18, 2014 01:33 PM (sx5Tc)
Anyway, I don't trust someone who'd name her kids Shashlik and Malaria.
Posted by: Mallfly at March 18, 2014 01:33 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 18, 2014 01:33 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: votermom at March 18, 2014 01:33 PM (GSIDW)
A 43% drop in preschool obesity, with no other data supporting such a thing, and no plausible mechanism explaining such a sharp drop, shouldn't really have been reported.
Tapeworms.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 18, 2014 01:33 PM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2014 01:33 PM (eoeps)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 18, 2014 01:34 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 18, 2014 01:34 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 18, 2014 01:34 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 18, 2014 01:34 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 18, 2014 01:34 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 18, 2014 01:34 PM (jhfwW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 18, 2014 01:35 PM (t3UFN)
Truth no longer matters.
Posted by: Null at March 18, 2014 01:35 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 18, 2014 01:35 PM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 18, 2014 01:35 PM (jhfwW)
don't know if that would fix anything but it might be funnier.
Posted by: Mallfly at March 18, 2014 01:35 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 18, 2014 01:35 PM (bCEmE)
We do, we do. But people who won't settle for anything less than 99 or 99.9 confidence intervals don't get the headlines or grant money, while those settling for 90 or, dear God, I've seen 80 hitting the news, get all the attention.
Posted by: JSchuler at March 18, 2014 01:36 PM (ashPd)
And as we all know, correlarity is a synonym for colorectal. IOW, pulling it out of your ass.
Posted by: pep at March 18, 2014 01:36 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: steevy at March 18, 2014 01:36 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Reggie Love at March 18, 2014 01:36 PM (yFb77)
I BLAME BUSH
Posted by: Pres**ent Barack “Unexpectedly Hoser” Obama at March 18, 2014 01:36 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 18, 2014 01:36 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Zombie Pug at March 18, 2014 01:36 PM (r7mtu)
“I am thrilled at the progress we’ve made over the last few years in obesity rates among our youngest Americans,” said Michelle Obama. “With the participation of kids, parents, and communities in Let’s Move! these last four years, healthier habits are beginning to become the new norm.”
CDC Press Release February 25, 2014
http://tinyurl.com/mw3zge3
At best, "Derp!"
At worst, "The children are starving. Tres amuse!"
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2014 01:36 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Tami at March 18, 2014 05:35 PM (bCEmE)
You should see how well he frosts my cake!
Posted by: Charlie at March 18, 2014 01:36 PM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Kal Peen at March 18, 2014 01:37 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Dirks strewn at March 18, 2014 01:37 PM (77F0w)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 18, 2014 01:37 PM (jhfwW)
Whoa, there Leibniz, we don't get into exponents until 5th grade.
Posted by: pep at March 18, 2014 01:37 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 18, 2014 01:37 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Shirtless Vlad Putin riding a Bear... at March 18, 2014 01:37 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at March 18, 2014 01:37 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 18, 2014 01:38 PM (jhfwW)
Posted by: concrete girl at March 18, 2014 01:38 PM (Gq4PC)
Posted by: shredded chi at March 18, 2014 01:38 PM (KrBYw)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 18, 2014 01:38 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 18, 2014 01:39 PM (jhfwW)
We beg to differ.
Posted by: The Fan Club Masquerading As A Press Corps at March 18, 2014 01:39 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Dirks strewn at March 18, 2014 01:39 PM (77F0w)
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at March 18, 2014 01:39 PM (RJMhd)
Let's face it: leftists ruin everything. And I mean everything.
They'll solve this obesity issue by food shortages. Wait and see...
Posted by: prescient11 at March 18, 2014 01:39 PM (tVTLU)
What an embarrassment.
No, embarrassment was 4 years ago. The damage is done. I actually like such incidents, because it makes the libs break their cool demeanor and defend this flatulent fool.
Posted by: pep at March 18, 2014 01:39 PM (4nR9/)
So, what, he can counter-sue to remain unemployed?
I can't keep up with who the courts are ordering to work for who anymore.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 18, 2014 01:39 PM (YEelc)
Pretty much every person in class was like "well we should report confidence intervals, but then it won't get published."
You know what nobody, anywhere, ever!, talks about? Confidence intervals. Everyone likes to get all smart and say "margin of error", but there are TWO measures of uncertainty in statistics. That's nearly twice as many as one.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 18, 2014 01:40 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: The Dude at March 18, 2014 01:40 PM (bStrg)
Posted by: steevy at March 18, 2014 01:40 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at March 18, 2014 01:40 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 18, 2014 01:41 PM (sQ0LB)
ps i used to be a positive polly.
Posted by: concrete girl at March 18, 2014 05:38 PM (Gq4PC)
I used to be positive. Then I gained a few electrons.
Posted by: Sad Ion at March 18, 2014 01:41 PM (DrWcr)
Posted by: steevy at March 18, 2014 05:40 PM (zqvg6)
He throws like a fag and his shit's all retarded.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 18, 2014 01:41 PM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Mallfly at March 18, 2014 01:41 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Gloria Steinem at March 18, 2014 01:42 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 18, 2014 01:42 PM (SY2Kh)
That cut 43% of 'em, right there.
Seriously, though, they might as well have gone full Orwell and told us that we've always been at war with Eastasia. That's how securely the propaganda class is tethered to reality nowadays.
Posted by: Phinn at March 18, 2014 01:42 PM (i5GO4)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 18, 2014 01:42 PM (vHRtU)
Posted by: votermom at March 18, 2014 01:42 PM (GSIDW)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 18, 2014 01:43 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: shredded chi at March 18, 2014 01:43 PM (KrBYw)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 18, 2014 01:44 PM (hFETg)
Posted by: Dirks strewn at March 18, 2014 01:44 PM (77F0w)
Posted by: Alf767 at March 18, 2014 01:44 PM (5UnZF)
If we all lose weight we can hide better and be faster against the coming invasion of whoever stole or helped the 777 also known as Triple Seven in more sophisticated circular firing squads.
In the camps we will be so thin we can escape through the razor wire! All along she has been trying to help us, while having second and third helpings of wagu beef and mousse swilled down with the finest of wines in the WH. What you don't eat is more for her! While Marie Antoinette was falsely credited with "let them eat cake," our first Clydesdale has been known to say, "we nag you because we love you," and "eat your peas." Also that Barry has really bad breath and his feet stink, but that is beside the point except for the dietary aide to put you off your feed and "let's move!"
In the meantime she alone is helping young future voters to vote against Democrats by taking fish sticks and tater tots and cookies off their menus. I remember what I ate in school cafeterias and it sure was not vegetables that were green and smushy. I had chocolate milk, cake, and whatever did not look like it would make me upchuck in the cafeteria, which is what I did one time in front of my then boyfriend, Billy, which ended that toot sweet. I ate fine at home and, in spite of the chocolate milk and cake, I still went on to be fabulous and have a figure to die for (which is more than Mooch can say...although some probably do die if they don't photoshop well).
I knew, as soon as I saw the "stats" that she would take credit for decreasing obesity. snorting like Lily Tomlin...Now let's start a rumor that food stamps are ending due to this program and see which way cookie crumbles. Oh, and I do blame my added poundage and hips on this regime. So, in reality, they have caused my personal weight gain as well as possible liver damage.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 18, 2014 01:44 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 18, 2014 01:44 PM (vHRtU)
Posted by: prescient11 at March 18, 2014 01:44 PM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Mallfly at March 18, 2014 01:44 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Pigilito at March 18, 2014 01:44 PM (AW99N)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 18, 2014 05:44 PM (hFETg)
The HazMat team is still cleaning up from the last one.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 18, 2014 01:44 PM (DrWcr)
Tangentially, I'm pleased that our school has at least three Downs kids - they've literally had genocide waged against them via abortion in the past decade or so.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at March 18, 2014 01:44 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 18, 2014 01:44 PM (jhfwW)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 18, 2014 01:45 PM (0FSuD)
I like my victims chubby.
Posted by: Harry Reid, Alleged Pederast and Searchlight Strangler at March 18, 2014 01:45 PM (ZWvOb)
Posted by: MSM® Now, with Glycerin Vibrafoam! at March 18, 2014 01:45 PM (79yL2)
The residents said it was a white plane with a red stripe.
Posted by: Dairy Farmer at March 18, 2014 01:45 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 18, 2014 01:46 PM (jhfwW)
Posted by: Butt Man at March 18, 2014 01:46 PM (vHRtU)
Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at March 18, 2014 01:46 PM (V40IZ)
Posted by: Mallfly at March 18, 2014 01:47 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: naturalfake at March 18, 2014 01:47 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 18, 2014 01:47 PM (jhfwW)
It makes a person in the science field want to pull their fucking hair out.
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 18, 2014 01:47 PM (GrtrJ)
anyone besides me remember the "new math" of the 1960s?
Posted by: Mallfly
What the hell is this "Base 10" crap? Good 'ol sexagesimal in Cuneiform on clay slabs for me.
Poated by: Ur-Vic
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2014 01:47 PM (kdS6q)
Troopers from the Mercer barracks say the buggy twice hit a passenger vehicle at a crossroads on Route 158 in Wilmington Township, about 6 p.m. Sunday.
The buggy then left the scene and its driver has yet to be identified.
Posted by: Field Marshal Von Rundstedt at March 18, 2014 01:47 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 18, 2014 01:47 PM (VtjlW)
Yeah I'm not gonna lie, I hate stats.
I don't love *doing* stats. I haven't correlated an R^2 value since B-school. But it's useful to have some training behind you for the calling out of BS.
Related ace-bait: one of the phrases by which I learned French was " la culture c'est ce-qui reste quand on â tous oublié".
Culture is what's left when you've forgotten everything.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 18, 2014 01:48 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 18, 2014 01:48 PM (jhfwW)
Posted by: Dirks strewn at March 18, 2014 01:48 PM (77F0w)
Posted by: shredded chi at March 18, 2014 01:48 PM (KrBYw)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 18, 2014 01:48 PM (9Bdcz)
Posted by: Mooch at March 18, 2014 01:48 PM (hvg/s)
Posted by: A Message from the Obamacare Death Panels at March 18, 2014 01:48 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 18, 2014 01:49 PM (0FSuD)
Secretary Kerry: U.S. To Send Scientists To Discuss Homosexuality With Ugandan President
“Maybe we can reach a point of reconsideration” on Uganda’s Anti-Homosexuality Bill, Kerry said during a forum at the State Department.
Posted by: LBGTXYZ at March 18, 2014 01:49 PM (e8kgV)
Troopers from the Mercer barracks say the buggy twice hit a passenger vehicle at a crossroads on Route 158 in Wilmington Township, about 6 p.m. Sunday.
The buggy then left the scene and its driver has yet to be identified.
Posted by: Field Marshal Von Rundstedt at March 18, 2014 05:47 PM (e8kgV)
Officer, I saw him! He was wearing black and had a beard!
Posted by: Insomniac at March 18, 2014 01:49 PM (DrWcr)
Data in able hands are like clay. Give me a measurement, it can probably be gamed.
Operational definition is very important and often missed.
Posted by: The Jackhole at March 18, 2014 01:50 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 18, 2014 01:50 PM (79yL2)
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 18, 2014 01:50 PM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: steevy at March 18, 2014 01:50 PM (zqvg6)
“Maybe we can reach a point of reconsideration” on Uganda’s Anti-Homosexuality Bill, Kerry said during a forum at the State Department.
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Losing the West, or harassing a country about homosexual laws, yeah I can see the conundrum of trying to decide which is more important. Fkn idiots.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2014 01:50 PM (eoeps)
Poated by: Ur-Vic
And enough with the multimedia cave drawings. Stick figures were good enough for my proto-hominid ancestors, and they're good enough for me.
Posted by: Ur-Vic contd at March 18, 2014 01:51 PM (4nR9/)
My wife works as an on call kitchen aide at a school district, and she said the amount of food in general, but especially veggies, that gets thrown away every day due to mandates that make them serve things kids don't want to eat is incredible. Kale, jicama, I wouldn't have eaten that when I was 7 either.
Posted by: Harry Reid, Alleged Pederast and Searchlight Strangler at March 18, 2014 01:51 PM (ZWvOb)
I'd love to see the powerpoint presentation on that one.
Posted by: A Message from the Obamacare Death Panels at March 18, 2014 01:51 PM (8ZskC)
Or so effeminate that all that stands between Obama completely becoming a woman is one, tattered lonely molecule of testosterone in his bloodstream.
That's the thing on his nose. The masculine molecule is trying to escape.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 18, 2014 01:52 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Dirks strewn at March 18, 2014 01:52 PM (77F0w)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 18, 2014 01:52 PM (jhfwW)
Kale, jicama, I wouldn't have eaten that when I was 7 either.
Who would want to eat that shit, at any age?
Posted by: Insomniac at March 18, 2014 01:52 PM (DrWcr)
I don't love *doing* stats. I haven't correlated an R^2 value since B-school.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch
You know what gets me? It's usually after you stop taking stat classes that you find out how much actuaries make and how in demand they are.
But at that point, too late to hop on that gravy train.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2014 01:52 PM (kdS6q)
Or so effeminate that all that stands between Obama completely becoming a woman is one, tattered lonely molecule of testosterone in his bloodstream.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 18, 2014 05:47 PM (0cMkb)
Did he really say that or is this April' Fools day at headquarters? wow.
I can throw a baseball better than that twit. And I could do it in tight jeans.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 18, 2014 01:52 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 18, 2014 01:53 PM (ZshNr)
It may just be me but I have never noticed a high amount of obese 2 to 5 year olds. Get up to age 10 and beyond, yes.
This is like the claim from the administration that deportation of illegals has significantly increased during the "O" years. What they don't tell you is that they include people that are turned away at the border trying to get in to the US in this so called fabulous number.
Posted by: Cheri at March 18, 2014 01:53 PM (G+Wff)
chi, I'm sure that any bad outcomes from those diets will be blamed on raaacist Rethuglicans, who are probably beholden to Jewish bankers and our reptilian overlords.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 18, 2014 01:53 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Zombie Pug at March 18, 2014 01:53 PM (r7mtu)
thank G*d for WIC & EBT or they might starve away to normal weight.
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 18, 2014 01:53 PM (q+fqH)
The margin of error, in fact, was wide enough that itÂ’s statistically possible there was no decrease at all.
**Spoiler Alert**
There was no decrease at all.
Posted by: eleven at March 18, 2014 01:54 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: steevy at March 18, 2014 01:54 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 18, 2014 01:55 PM (vHRtU)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 18, 2014 01:55 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 18, 2014 01:55 PM (jhfwW)
Posted by: Hentai Squid at March 18, 2014 01:55 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 18, 2014 01:55 PM (+lsX1)
he has given up his usual breakfast doughnuts for a smoothie made with apple, kale, spinach and ginger
At least it will look the same coming back up as it did going down.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 18, 2014 01:55 PM (DrWcr)
Right before he got his ass kicked by that monster rabbit.
Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at March 18, 2014 01:55 PM (5ikDv)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 18, 2014 01:56 PM (8ZskC)
And if not, why not?
Posted by: eleven at March 18, 2014 05:55 PM (fsLdt)
Fuck you and your stupid-ass questions.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 18, 2014 01:56 PM (DrWcr)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 18, 2014 01:57 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Bethselamin Visitor's Authority at March 18, 2014 01:57 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 18, 2014 01:57 PM (0FSuD)
Fat kids. Little bastards are in shape, at least. And polite.
Too polite.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 18, 2014 01:57 PM (XO6WW)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 18, 2014 01:57 PM (jhfwW)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 18, 2014 01:57 PM (vHRtU)
Posted by: Seems legit at March 18, 2014 01:57 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Hepcat at March 18, 2014 01:58 PM (Q4mug)
Posted by: Chris Christie at March 18, 2014 01:58 PM (Aif/5)
Has this thread turned into a fat flame war yet?
Fuck you. You're too fat. Or too thin. Your weight is not 100% optimal for your frame, so get the fuck out of the party, RINO.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 18, 2014 01:58 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 18, 2014 01:59 PM (vHRtU)
Posted by: garrett at March 18, 2014 01:59 PM (YI6/M)
That's some rich nougaty bologna. The White House garden has soil contamination. Ever since the Clinton years when someone put ComPro on the lawn. There are also high levels of lead, possibly from lead paint used on the White House in times of yore.
He may have been inspired by the garden, but he didn't choose from the garden.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 18, 2014 01:59 PM (P7Wsr)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 18, 2014 01:59 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 18, 2014 01:59 PM (jhfwW)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 18, 2014 01:59 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2014 01:59 PM (eoeps)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 18, 2014 01:59 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Romeo13 /facepalm at March 18, 2014 02:00 PM (84gbM)
Has this thread turned into a fat flame war yet? And if not, why not?
Posted by: eleven
We were waiting for King Douche to show up.
Oh, you're here.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2014 02:00 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 18, 2014 02:00 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Adriane ... at March 18, 2014 02:00 PM (qoKTg)
If Mooch were really serious about her War On Fat...
She would apply the same draconian restrictions to EBT card purchases that she has to school lunches.
But then...school kids don't vote.
Posted by: wheatie at March 18, 2014 02:00 PM (Xs26g)
How's the marbling?
Posted by: eleven at March 18, 2014 06:00 PM (fsLdt)
Exquisite. You have to brine them for a few days first to get the Sterno taste out, though.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 18, 2014 02:01 PM (DrWcr)
But was he of the garden?
Posted by: pep at March 18, 2014 02:01 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: Romeo13 /facepalm at March 18, 2014 02:01 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 18, 2014 02:02 PM (vHRtU)
Posted by: Adriane ... at March 18, 2014 02:03 PM (qoKTg)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 18, 2014 02:03 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 18, 2014 02:03 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 18, 2014 02:04 PM (Djwm9)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 18, 2014 02:04 PM (t3UFN)
There has to be hand-wringing and "Ach du Lieber!" (in reality he just says, "Justin Bieber!" and California dreamin') by all. Barry, the cool one, simply stays fried on whatever Val will give him as that is what she carries with her and is with him at all times. She is his right-hand marm and pharmaceutical dispenser. Where was I?
Oh, yes, the goods by Putin. The KGB does not fool around with Nobel Prize winning putzes. A few choice words, on stage (during the last "body language seminar they had) took care of anything but a few "I'll Sanction!" empty threats and stompy pigeon-toes. Read Putin's lips (although it is pretty hard, he is practically a ventriloquist): "You are a squeeky bathhouse wheel" translated from Russian to mean: ghey. "You are not a US citizen, Bill C. gave me the goods." Translated to mean: You make one move and I will reveal all, you Mom jean wearing putz, and it will be a Constitutional crisis to make your Founding Fathers spin in their graves."
So: Ukraine today, rest of Europe tomorrow (just wait, please, until I am not there! Thanks!).
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 18, 2014 02:04 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 18, 2014 02:05 PM (jhfwW)
Posted by: Cartman at March 18, 2014 02:06 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 18, 2014 02:06 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: steevy at March 18, 2014 02:06 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Romeo13 /facepalm at March 18, 2014 06:00 PM (84gbM)
I bet an opposition party could make hay with this!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 18, 2014 02:07 PM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Romeo13 /facepalm at March 18, 2014 02:09 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: shredded chi at March 18, 2014 02:10 PM (Z+1b9)
237 I have a theory on why no one is doing crap about Pootin...they have the goods, probably from the Clintons, on this buffoon in the Oval office.
I agree, ChrisyB.
Putin called him an "illegitimate president" right after he was elected in 2008.
Then...after Barky went over and had a 2 hour, closed door meeting with him...Putin has been getting whatever he wants from him.
Posted by: wheatie at March 18, 2014 02:10 PM (Xs26g)
Posted by: steevy at March 18, 2014 02:10 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: shredded chi at March 18, 2014 02:12 PM (Z+1b9)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 18, 2014 02:13 PM (vHRtU)
Posted by: Cheri at March 18, 2014 02:13 PM (G+Wff)
Posted by: steevy at March 18, 2014 02:14 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Jen at March 18, 2014 02:14 PM (JqB3t)
Posted by: Romeo13 /facepalm at March 18, 2014 06:09 PM (84gbM)
But on the bright side, it is not our oil, it is not in the US itself, we will never see a drop of that oil, and we won't make a dime off the recovered oil, so it is a win-win for progressive Team Obama!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 18, 2014 02:15 PM (o3MSL)
252 247 Meanwhile our press shirked it's constitutional duty to cover for and support the chocolate jesus.
Yep, steevy...and declared it "rasisst!" to even ask any questions about his mysterious past.
Posted by: wheatie at March 18, 2014 02:19 PM (Xs26g)
What is Obama got some deal going like Richard Pryor's character in Brewster's Millions?
Do they call it Bamster's Trillions?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 18, 2014 02:21 PM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 18, 2014 02:22 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: torquewrench at March 18, 2014 02:28 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: rickl at March 18, 2014 02:29 PM (sdi6R)
258 So, does this mean that their Obamacare enrollment numbers may be bad also?
As bogus as their numbers on it were that told us How Much It Will Cost.
In fact...everything this administration tells us is bogus.
That's why they engage in the constant propaganda.
They know that propaganda starts to wear off, when the truth starts seeping out...so they have to keep a constant stream of it going.
Posted by: wheatie at March 18, 2014 02:31 PM (Xs26g)
Posted by: Fritz at March 18, 2014 02:34 PM (PnMCP)
Posted by: Zombie Pug at March 18, 2014 02:38 PM (r7mtu)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2014 02:42 PM (rDidD)
The CDCÂ’s study relied on a set of government-collected data...
Well there's your problem right there.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at March 18, 2014 02:43 PM (fb100)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2014 02:43 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2014 02:44 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2014 02:46 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Zombie Pug at March 18, 2014 02:47 PM (r7mtu)
Posted by: kathysaysso at March 18, 2014 02:48 PM (6H6o8)
You can lie with math. It's done all the time. There is nothing uniquely true or even truthful about it. Trotsky was a math major. And David Dinkins.
Not that it isn't worth studying. But I'm not taking any shit about it any more.
Incidentally, excise and burn with fire the branch called "statistics," and you're on much firmer ground. But statistics is the worship, the weapon, the commie tool.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 18, 2014 02:48 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at March 18, 2014 02:57 PM (dvRYt)
Posted by: Harry Reid, accused, not convicted at March 18, 2014 02:58 PM (yrEz0)
Posted by: panzernashorn at March 18, 2014 03:03 PM (/vO0r)
And with all the blatant dishonesty, no way in hell do they get the benefit of the doubt.
Posted by: acethepug at March 18, 2014 03:05 PM (6PkNI)
Posted by: backhoe at March 18, 2014 03:07 PM (ULH4o)
Posted by: panzernashorn at March 18, 2014 03:08 PM (/vO0r)
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