June 26, 2012

Oh Boy: Zimmerman Passed Lie Detector?
— Ace

"No Deception Indicated."

According to a “confidential report” prepared by the Sanford Police Department, Zimmerman, 28, willingly submitted to a computer voice stress analyzer (CVSA) “truth verification” on February 27. Investigators concluded that he “has told substantially the complete truth in regards to this examination.”

...

Along with questions about whether his first name was George and if it was Monday, Zimmerman was asked, “Did you confront the guy you shot?’ He answered, “No.” He was also asked, “Were you in fear for your life, when you shot the guy.” Zimmerman replied, “Yes.”

Is the media pleased with itself for taking the word of left-wing bloggers (as usual) and promoting a lynchmob atmosphere on this case?

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1 first ?

Posted by: alec at June 26, 2012 02:59 PM (5RTXq)

2 Lie detector tests are racist.

Posted by: Book Geek at June 26, 2012 02:59 PM (ny/5i)

3

Lie Detector Tests are Racist. 

Just like the SAT's.

Posted by: Eric Holder at June 26, 2012 02:59 PM (TmLJz)

4 You know who this helps...

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at June 26, 2012 03:00 PM (WGmy2)

5 Facts are racist, racist.


I still maintain that Jackson, Sharpton, et al heard Zimmerman and assumed he was Jewish and that's what started this whole mess. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 03:00 PM (Gk3SS)

6 because racism.

Posted by: trailortrash at June 26, 2012 03:00 PM (xllDV)

7 The FL prosecuter has to know  she's wallowing in a shit pit.  I hope she gets what she deserves.

Posted by: Soona at June 26, 2012 03:01 PM (jtdSY)

8 They didn't ask the most important question: "Have you always been a racist much?"

Posted by: Dr. Reverend Most High Al Sharpton at June 26, 2012 03:01 PM (qs9G3)

9 Pardon the impertinence but isn't this old news? I thought we knew this back in March.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at June 26, 2012 03:01 PM (famk3)

10 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Max Power at June 26, 2012 03:01 PM (q177U)

11 Hahah, finally beat steevy :p

Posted by: Max Power at June 26, 2012 03:02 PM (q177U)

12 Not quite a true polygraph but still it's something. Thus far I believe *every single* bit of evidence released has been consistent with Zimmerman's original story.

Posted by: Mætenloch at June 26, 2012 03:02 PM (pAlYe)

13 I feel more racist just reading this. Brb: Sending wedding gift to Obama.

Posted by: sifty at June 26, 2012 03:02 PM (p39GY)

14 Between F & F and the lynching of this white Hispanic, why does Choom-by-a My Lord hate the Hispanics?

Posted by: runningrn at June 26, 2012 03:02 PM (WGmy2)

15 If Tapper asked Carney that question hilarity would ensue.


Here's a philosophical question, if Tapper asked Carney what day it is and Carney says Tuesday when it's Wednesday but Carney has no clue what day it is, is it a lie?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 03:03 PM (Gk3SS)

16 **Is the media pleased with itself for taking the word of left-wing bloggers (as usual) and promoting a lynchmob atmosphere on this case?** yes. next question?

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 26, 2012 03:03 PM (QxSug)

17

Lie Detector

http://preview.tinyurl.com/64fylcx

Posted by: Seinfeld at June 26, 2012 03:04 PM (TmLJz)

18 Not to be a downer, but I thought lie detector tests were inadmissible.

Posted by: Secundus at June 26, 2012 03:04 PM (l6k/F)

19 Ace to your posed question to our intrepid media, I rejoin and ask the same of 1) our President and 2) the Florida Prosecutor.

Posted by: Scandia at June 26, 2012 03:04 PM (QWOh7)

20 Clearly they gave the test to Zimmerman's Hispanic side. What were the results when they gave his White side the lie detector. Ha! It's a trick question. Whitey lies.

Posted by: Anal Bum cover for Elton at June 26, 2012 03:04 PM (SxJ8P)

21 Too bad they're not admissible (at least in this instance). The value of the VSA, by the way, is not so much as the result itself, but in its ability to put psychological pressure on suspects. They go through the whole drill, and then, without telling the suspect where there is any deviation from answers given and results recorded, they ask, "Is there something you need to tell us?" At that point, people under these examinations will often sing like Barney Frank's pool boy.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at June 26, 2012 03:04 PM (dizKt)

22 BTW, Trayvon is now apparently the new OJ as far as some people go, innocent all the way, persecuted for being black. So, another national leftwing myth has been created.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 26, 2012 03:04 PM (QxSug)

23 if carney speaks its a lie

Posted by: alec at June 26, 2012 03:04 PM (5RTXq)

24 I still maintain that Jackson, Sharpton, et al heard Zimmerman and assumed he was Jewish and that's what started this whole mess.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 07:00 PM

You could be right.

Posted by: white interloper at June 26, 2012 03:05 PM (bAGA/)

25 they're not admissible but it sometimes helps the police figure things out. Besides a guy can get so nervous doing it that he blurts out a confession.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 26, 2012 03:05 PM (QxSug)

26 7 The FL prosecuter has to know she's wallowing in a shit pit. I hope she gets what she deserves. If Florida is embroiled in some kind of civil war and it spreads to other states, wouldn't that be a great reason to cancel the election? I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist, but I wouldn't put anything past King Barry.

Posted by: runningrn at June 26, 2012 03:06 PM (WGmy2)

27 "Bill Clinton is an unusually good liar." Senator Bob Kerry (D-NE), 1996.

Posted by: Interested at June 26, 2012 03:06 PM (Vxlzu)

28 The CIA got him and taught him their techniques for beating lie detectors.

Posted by: Maxine Waters (D) Mars at June 26, 2012 03:06 PM (nEUpB)

29 We rate Zimmerman's passing of the lie detector test a half true.

Posted by: Politifuct at June 26, 2012 03:07 PM (nBfxt)

30 This won't make a hill of beans difference to the grievance mongers, the lynch mob, Spike Lee, the NBPP....or apparently, the prosecutor.  They're past the point of even showing any semblance of objectivity.  They want Zimmerman's flesh. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 26, 2012 03:07 PM (vOMX+)

31 According to a “confidential report” prepared by the Sanford Police Department, Zimmerman, 28, willingly submitted to a computer voice stress analyzer (CVSA) “truth verification” on February 27.

Not to cast doubt on his statements, but a "computer voice stress analyzer"?  Sounds to me like the Sanford Police Department got scammed.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 26, 2012 03:07 PM (SY2Kh)

32 Doesn't matter. He's guilty. Let's get on with the fair trial and speedy execution.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 26, 2012 03:07 PM (jucos)

33

He must be guilty, Trevon looked like Obama's son!  Looks and skin color matter, truth and reality do not.

 

Posted by: Fresh at June 26, 2012 03:08 PM (O7ksG)

34 25 I still maintain that Jackson, Sharpton, et al heard Zimmerman and assumed he was Jewish and that's what started this whole mess. I so agree! They had no idea he was a Hispanic Democrat who championed a Black man who he thoughtnhad been a victim of police brutality. All they thought was "Get The Hymie"!

Posted by: runningrn at June 26, 2012 03:08 PM (WGmy2)

35 In the end Zimmerman might get off but he will be a broke busted individual.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2012 03:08 PM (eoFv8)

36 28

It depends on what the meaning of the word "lie" is.

Posted by: The Q at June 26, 2012 03:08 PM (B/yDO)

37 Unfortunately he failed the "Stupid Detecor" test. Lawyer's card should be next to his CCW permit, and he should have said nothing without his lawyer present, nothing, esp. to his wife.

Posted by: Jean at June 26, 2012 03:08 PM (wwZVW)

38 Taken the day after the shooting but no mention of it in the charging docs.  Is that a problem for the prosecutor?

Posted by: AndrewsDad at June 26, 2012 03:09 PM (C2//T)

39

Crump still needs a payday.  You think a little thing like the truth will prevent Crump and his law suit machine from getting a pay day?

 

They will lie, cheat, slander, and terroroize their way to a pay off in a civil suit. 

Posted by: rd at June 26, 2012 03:09 PM (9sUlj)

40 Is the media pleased with itself for taking the word of left-wing bloggers (as usual) and promoting a lynchmob atmosphere on this case? Spike Lee hardest hit...

Posted by: runningrn at June 26, 2012 03:09 PM (WGmy2)

41 Meh, these kinds of tests aren't as easy to trick as the movies make out but they aren't as clear and objective as movies make out either. It comes down to some guy who took a class saying "see the heart rate increased here" like he's Daredevil or something.
In any case, whether he felt in danger of his life or not doesn't have a lot of bearing on the case as I understand it. It was doomed to begin with.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 03:09 PM (r4wIV)

42 25 I still maintain that Jackson, Sharpton, et al heard Zimmerman and assumed he was Jewish and that's what started this whole mess. I don't know. A Jew in Florida? That's pretty thin.

Posted by: Anal Bum cover for Elton at June 26, 2012 03:09 PM (SxJ8P)

43 How surprising that he passed a test employing White technology administered by White technicians in the presence of White officers.

Posted by: Greg at June 26, 2012 03:09 PM (fP+1P)

44 If Florida is embroiled in some kind of civil war and it spreads to other states, wouldn't that be a great reason to cancel the election? I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist, but I wouldn't put anything past King Barry.

Posted by: runningrn at June 26, 2012 07:06 PM (WGmy2)

 

 

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I'm looking at it this way.  FL will wait until Romney becomes president, then quietly dismiss the charges and put Zimmerman and his family under some kind of witness protection program.   

Posted by: Soona at June 26, 2012 03:11 PM (jtdSY)

45 Not to cast doubt on his statements, but a "computer voice stress analyzer"? Sounds to me like the Sanford Police Department got scammed. Tell me about it!

Posted by: Wonder Woman's Lasso of Truth at June 26, 2012 03:11 PM (WGmy2)

46 Somewhat related: BBC admits it got a little carried away with the Egypt story.
http://tinyurl.com/88mxcgs
I guess teh revolution! Twitter! college students! isn't enough any more.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 03:11 PM (r4wIV)

47 Zimmerman equals joooooo! I don't give a shit 'bout nuttin after dat, bitch.

Posted by: Justice for Whatshisname! at June 26, 2012 03:11 PM (mxnUd)

48 Is the media pleased with itself for taking the word of left-wing bloggers



To be fair, Jeralyn Merritt at Talk Left was one of the first to say Zimmerman is being railroaded and remains highly critical of this whole case.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 26, 2012 03:12 PM (Gk3SS)

49 Besides a guy can get so nervous doing it that he blurts out a confession. Posted by: joeindc44

The Wire cable show was a mixed bag; sometimes interesting, sometimes more norming of thuggery. However, this was one of the greatest cop show scenes of all time. Skip to 2:00 to avoid the leftie coughing up "Americans are a dumb people"

http://youtu.be/rN7pkFNEg5c

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at June 26, 2012 03:12 PM (famk3)

50 It's obvious that those lie detector results need professional editing.

Posted by: Andrea Mitchell at June 26, 2012 03:12 PM (QKKT0)

51 How surprising that he passed a test employing White technology administered by White technicians in the presence of White officers. Posted by: Greg at June 26, 2012 07:09 PM

In a snowstorm on an ice flow with polar bears looking on.  Yep, I'm suspicious.

Posted by: huerfano at June 26, 2012 03:12 PM (bAGA/)

52

Posted by: Greg at June 26, 2012 07:09 PM (fP+1P)

 

Too bad George Washington Carver invented the Polygraph Machine... 

 True story.  The first one was made completely out of a  Peanut.

Posted by: garrett at June 26, 2012 03:13 PM (TmLJz)

53 They had no idea he was a Hispanic Democrat who championed a Black man who he thoughtnhad been a victim of police brutality. All they thought was "Get The Hymie"!

It wouldn't be the first Joooo scalp that maggot Sharpton has taken.

Posted by: Cicero at June 26, 2012 03:13 PM (QKKT0)

54 If I ever had a scandal where the media was blatantly covering for me, then it falls apart for the world to see, it would look like the Trayvon Martin scandal.

Posted by: Baracky-O at June 26, 2012 03:14 PM (HpT9p)

55

Funny how we have all this investigation so fast in this case of Self Defense...

 

Yet Holder can't seem to find out who signed off on Fast and Furious in 18 Months... nor who is leaking all of our Secrets from the Whitehouse when there are only a VERY few people who knew of this info...

 

Repubs are blowing the Holder thing... they should ask the question "are you crooked? or just incompetent to lead..."

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2012 03:14 PM (lZBBB)

56 I read somewhere that the detective on the Zimmerman case was demoted to patrol. Don't know what that means.

Posted by: Ronster at June 26, 2012 03:14 PM (mHC3R)

57 soothsayer hardest hit.

Posted by: Tim in Timbuktu at June 26, 2012 03:14 PM (Dll6b)

58 They hooked the leads up to Trayvon too... but apparently he invoked the 5th.

Posted by: Lemming of the BDA at June 26, 2012 03:14 PM (tcFym)

59

It wouldn't be the first Joooo scalp that maggot Sharpton has taken.

 

They each come with the cutest little hat!

Posted by: Al Sharpton at June 26, 2012 03:14 PM (TmLJz)

60 Is he old enough to have seen "Basic Instinct". 
If he is, then we know how he passed.

I think it has something to do with putting your "ice pick" in Sharon Stone's squeak hole.

Posted by: Courtesy Flush at June 26, 2012 03:15 PM (sw9Gv)

61 Duke rexux.

Posted by: Libra at June 26, 2012 03:16 PM (kd8U8)

62 Hey Gerg, be sure to come back on November 8 so we can all enjoy your sweet, sweet fucktard tears.

Posted by: Cicero at June 26, 2012 03:16 PM (QKKT0)

63 Make that "redux">

Posted by: Libra at June 26, 2012 03:16 PM (kd8U8)

64 If I had a son, he'd look more like Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab than Trayvon Martin.

Posted by: Barakhenaten I at June 26, 2012 03:16 PM (TmLJz)

65 This week, buy one double cheeseburger and get a second one for half off! Just tell the clerk, "Justice for cheeseburgers!"

Posted by: Justice for Whatshisname! at June 26, 2012 03:17 PM (mxnUd)

66 So this white dood passes a lie detector test.
Maybe he was telling white lies and that beat the mashine.
Made by white people. Of course

Justice for Tresbien.

Posted by: Conseku at June 26, 2012 03:17 PM (nBfxt)

67 To be fair, Jeralyn Merritt at Talk Left was one of the first to say Zimmerman is being railroaded and remains highly critical of this whole case. I think she was on the right side of things during the Duke Lacrosse fiasco too.

Posted by: runningrn at June 26, 2012 03:18 PM (WGmy2)

68 The value of the VSA, by the way, is not so much as the result itself, but in its ability to put psychological pressure on suspects. Posted by: ObjectionSustained at June 26, 2012 07:04 PM (dizKt) That's the case with polygraphs as well- they are not so much about "detecting lies" as they are a huge mind-f*ck to rattle the subject and get him to disclose things that he ordinarily would not.

Posted by: Nighthawk at June 26, 2012 03:18 PM (GbzQ8)

69 Come on.... you all know he used the Secret Jew Mind control ray on the guy who ran the test...

Posted by: Egyptian President at June 26, 2012 03:18 PM (lZBBB)

70 He past TWO lie detector tests and was asked if he confronted TM. GZ said no. Serino wrote the opposite in his report. Also, the hot rumor going around is that Serino was demoted because he was the link for those cctv tapes.

Posted by: Redd at June 26, 2012 03:18 PM (MlggS)

71

If GZ is not granted bail again, I hope his lawyer puts it into warp speed and gets the stand your ground hearing moved up to ASAP.  He should have a lot of the discovery underway, and should have enough for a preponderance of evidence in a few months. 

 

Otherwise I think that the persecutor will be able to wear them down and get them to plead out if GZ is locked up until sometime in 2013. 

Posted by: rd at June 26, 2012 03:18 PM (9sUlj)

72 He was coached with the handbook "wholders deceptions" a lying guide from DOJ.

Posted by: Clemenza at June 26, 2012 03:18 PM (qA9lG)

73 Somebody thinks a race war is good for ratings.

http://tinyurl.com/7hcdulm

Posted by: Dang at June 26, 2012 03:19 PM (Ky1+e)

74 Again, the SCOAMFDR admin is playing this up to help support voter fraud in swing states. I think Romney should, at one point, state that any offficials follwing the increasingly desperate and illegal SCOAMFDR dictats will be prosecuted once he gets sworn in.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 26, 2012 03:19 PM (QxSug)

75 Someone's lying, Lord!

Posted by: Choom-buy-a at June 26, 2012 03:19 PM (WGmy2)

76 44 How surprising that he passed a test employing White technology administered by White technicians in the presence of White officers.

Posted by: Greg at June 26, 2012 07:09 PM (fP+1P)

Well since I'm reading a greg comment on a White technology monitor connected to the White technology Internet (invented by super-honkie Al Gore), I think I must have entered some kind of liar's paradox vortex.

Posted by: Mætenloch at June 26, 2012 03:19 PM (pAlYe)

77 Posted by: garrett at June 26, 2012 07:13 PM (TmLJz)

I needed a good laugh.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 26, 2012 03:19 PM (nEUpB)

78 66 This week, buy one double cheeseburger and get a second one for half off! Just tell the clerk, "Justice for cheeseburgers!" I will be right there.

Posted by: Meg McCain at June 26, 2012 03:20 PM (pSKAq)

79 RACIST!

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 26, 2012 03:20 PM (DGIjM)

80 2 Lie detector tests are racist.

Posted by: Book Geek at June 26, 2012 06:59 PM (ny/5i)



And dat's the facts!

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at June 26, 2012 03:21 PM (KZI7g)

81 NBPP hardest hit.

Posted by: ErikW at June 26, 2012 03:22 PM (/G77D)

82 It's long but Diwataman has done an excellent analysis of the discovery: http://goo.gl/9MXno GZ also told Serino that he did not want to be a police officer because the kids he worked with and wanted to help, thought all cops were assholes. So, no, he was not a wannabe cop.

Posted by: Redd at June 26, 2012 03:22 PM (MlggS)

83 Somebody thinks a race war is good for ratings.

http://tinyurl.com/7hcdulm
Posted by: Dang at June 26, 2012 07:19 PM

Geraldo is looking bad these days.

Posted by: huerfano at June 26, 2012 03:22 PM (bAGA/)

84 And in case you haven't heard, Servino has been transferred to nights patrol. LOL!

Posted by: Redd at June 26, 2012 03:23 PM (MlggS)

85 Geraldo belongs on MSNBC

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2012 03:23 PM (eoFv8)

86 "Is the media pleased with itself for taking the word of left-wing bloggers (as usual) and promoting a lynchmob atmosphere on this case?" almost undoubtedly so. having the misfortune of mostly liberal friends, i can attest that the mindset is something along the lines of "the media were just equalising the automatic racist reaction of most of america". ... that is, the story goes, if the media HADN'T convicted gz so forcefully and thoroughly, white people might have thought trayvon was in the wrong. ... leaps of logic too wide for THIS white-hispanic boy who can't jump.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 03:24 PM (79EF9)

87 Somebody thinks a race war is good for ratings. I feel cheap and used...

Posted by: Al Capone's Safe at June 26, 2012 03:24 PM (WGmy2)

88

Otherwise I think that the persecutor will be able to wear them down and get them to plead out if GZ is locked up until sometime in 2013.

Posted by: rd at June 26, 2012 07:18 PM (9sUlj)

 

 

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I'm hoping Zimmerman is now fully aware of the forces against him.  And I hope his lawyer is too.  Keep the continuance going until after the SCOAMT (and Holder) get thrown out.  Right now, jail is probably the safest place to be.

Posted by: Soona at June 26, 2012 03:24 PM (jtdSY)

89 The media will report what is obvious to them, that Zimmerman is no normal raaaaaacist, he's a evil psychopathic raaaaaacist who can beat a lie detector test.  In fact, he's probably a serial killer.  NBC to investigate and report.

Posted by: Mayday at June 26, 2012 03:25 PM (F3s39)

90 The racism is in the prosecution of this man.

Posted by: Beto at June 26, 2012 03:25 PM (BAnPT)

91 Derp

Posted by: Zim's PayPal Bookeeper at June 26, 2012 03:26 PM (cl+LG)

92

And if the Supreme Court rejects Obamacare, does anyone doubt Mr. Obama will attempt to foment racial tension under a campaign meme that the justice system is entirely flawed.

This republic is in a very dangerous time where division is being wielded by the executive branch and DNC.

Calm heads fortified by reason will be very important when the storm of chaos and division start swirling and howling.   

Posted by: Scandia at June 26, 2012 03:26 PM (QWOh7)

93 Uh-oh. I think I stepped on my dick again.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at June 26, 2012 03:27 PM (IoNBC)

94 I found this great thing the other day for when you're out protesting, and what not: Barack Obama 2012 "Oh no, you didn't!" T-Shirts for $18.99 (plus SnH).

Posted by: Justice for Whatshisname! at June 26, 2012 03:27 PM (mxnUd)

95 Ruh roh! What are we going to do with all those "Championship For Trayvon" hoodies now!

Posted by: Miami Heat Merchandising Office at June 26, 2012 03:27 PM (WGmy2)

96 Posted by: Zim's PayPal Bookeeper at June 26, 2012 07:26 PM (cl+LG) Well aren't you the cutest little dicksucker.

Posted by: Scobface at June 26, 2012 03:28 PM (IoNBC)

97 Something I wish would be more understood around the nation is that President Obama aligned himself with the forces against this HISPANIC guy who defended himself. Why don't Hispanics get that? Why do so many say they'll vote for Obama?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 03:28 PM (r4wIV)

98 Ruh roh! What are we going to do with all those "Championship For Trayvon®" hoodies now! Posted by: Miami Heat Merchandising Office

Fixed that for ya.

Posted by: Dang at June 26, 2012 03:28 PM (Ky1+e)

99

Posted by: Zim's PayPal Bookeeper at June 26, 2012 07:26 PM (cl+LG)

 

RELEASE THE BANHAMMER!

 

Posted by: ErikW at June 26, 2012 03:28 PM (/G77D)

100 Clean up on Aisle 92....

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 26, 2012 03:29 PM (lZBBB)

101 RELEASE THE BANHAMMER!
Posted by: ErikW

LOL!

Posted by: Dang at June 26, 2012 03:29 PM (Ky1+e)

102 Serino tells GZ that TM like to record himself and that there may be some recordings on his cell phone. GZ says, I hope to god there is. They also tell him there are cameras near the clubhouse and again GZ says I hope they picked up something. LOL

Posted by: Redd at June 26, 2012 03:29 PM (MlggS)

103 90 The media will report what is obvious to them, that Zimmerman is no normal raaaaaacist, he's a evil psychopathic raaaaaacist who can beat a lie detector test. In fact, he's probably a serial killer. NBC to investigate and report. The irony there is so rich considering the racist, pathological lying narcissist they so blindly support.

Posted by: runningrn at June 26, 2012 03:29 PM (WGmy2)

104 47 Somewhat related: BBC admits it got a little carried away with the Egypt story.


Yeah, somewhat related, over at Jawa is a link to a western reporter that was in Tahrir Square yesterday and got the Laura Logan treatment x10.   Chilling.

More chilling is she maintains Islam is a religion of peace and the Egyptians are lovely people.  WTF?  Seems to me these media people are skirting the fine line of totally insanity.

Posted by: Derak at June 26, 2012 03:29 PM (VEhDR)

105 I heard ABC news on the radio lead off with "new evidence" in the Zimmerman case, but of course their spin was that it made him look more like a psycho looking to shoot saintly black children.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 26, 2012 03:30 PM (i0App)

106 @93 well, as is being widely reported across the conservative blogosphere right now, today, obama warned the supreme court that the american people "don't want to re-legislate health care". he doesn't have a clue...he's the most visible example of cradle-to-grave liberal cocooning available to us, and tho the schadenfreude associated with his being totally out of touch is somewhat satisfying, he's unfortch the fucking president. of COURSE he's gonna play the race card...he fucking BELIEVES that shit! :/

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 03:30 PM (79EF9)

107

Will there be riots if Zimmerman is found not guilty?

 

Will the media and the race racketeers accept any responsibility if riots break out?

Posted by: rd at June 26, 2012 03:30 PM (9sUlj)

108 Somebody thinks a race war is good for ratings.

http://tinyurl.com/7hcdulm


Posted by: Dang at June 26, 2012 07:19 PM

Geraldo is looking bad these days.
Posted by: huerfano

Lol!  That's Charles Manson!

Posted by: Dang at June 26, 2012 03:30 PM (Ky1+e)

109 "Yeah, somewhat related, over at Jawa is a link to a western reporter that was in Tahrir Square yesterday and got the Laura Logan treatment x10."
What is wrong with these news organizations sending women there? This is just criminal at this point, what the hell???

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 03:32 PM (r4wIV)

110 clean up aisle 92 please.

Posted by: rd at June 26, 2012 03:32 PM (9sUlj)

111 "Is the media pleased with itself for taking the word of left-wing bloggers (as usual) and promoting a lynchmob atmosphere on this case?" This is looking more and more like the Duke LaCrosse case. And the results will be the same, the lefties and race baiters will refuse to take responsibility for their mistakes, assumptions, or outright lies. What kind of unprofessional idiots take their lead from obvious exploiters like Jackson and Sharpton. No one with any brains takes them seriously. You should hear the way Jackson and his son, Jr. are talked about on Chicago radio. They're both a joke.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 26, 2012 03:32 PM (+XnAb)

112 BRB. My butt plug fell out, again.

Posted by: Zim's PayPal Beekeeper! at June 26, 2012 03:32 PM (mxnUd)

113 "Is the media pleased with itself for taking the word of left-wing bloggers (as usual) and promoting a lynchmob atmosphere on this case?"

Of course we are.

Posted by: The Media at June 26, 2012 03:33 PM (+XVQe)

114 boy, the lynch-zimmerman community is really helping itself with respect to the rest of the country. Don't care 'bout nothing, we hate everyone.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 26, 2012 03:33 PM (QxSug)

115 Why don't Hispanics get that? Why do so many say they'll vote for Obama?


I hope Romney buys lots of time on Univision and runs ads about O feeding Zimmerman to the wolves, Fast and Furious, and for icing on the cake throws in something about Zero taking knives and forks away from Hispanics. 

Oh, and about his war on Catholics, lots of Hispanic Catholics out there.

Posted by: Mayday at June 26, 2012 03:33 PM (F3s39)

116 I'm hoping Zimmerman is now fully aware of the forces against him. And I hope his lawyer is too. Keep the continuance going until after the SCOAMT (and Holder) get thrown out. Right now, jail is probably the safest place to be. It wouldn't surprise me if Reverse Jesus figures out a way to do a reverse pardon if he gets unelected in November that makes it impossible for GZ to ever get out of prison. After all, GZ murdered a kid that looks like SCOAMF's son.

Posted by: runningrn at June 26, 2012 03:33 PM (WGmy2)

117 Can's I just eat my waffle?

Posted by: Tawana Brawley at June 26, 2012 03:34 PM (IoNBC)

118 O/T My brother is in Hong Kong.. here is a cool panoramic pic he took from his hotel. http://tinyurl.com/6uf6m4b

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 26, 2012 03:34 PM (DGIjM)

119 @98 because "hispanic" is not the monolithic voting bloc that both sides of the aisle like to pontificate about. most "hispanics" couldn't be bothered with the plight of a fairly-well-off guy with a white father...especially in florida cuz he might be one of those Fucking Dry-Foots. indeed, i have a hispanic friend who is EXTREMELY conservative...far moreso than i am, and to the point that i'm as turned off by his social nonsense as i am by that of my liberal musician friends. nevertheless, as a native mexican (got his us citizenship 5 or so years ago), he's still considering voting for obama because of the DREAM thing. one issue voting makes democracy great disjointed fun

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 03:34 PM (79EF9)

120 #50 I worked the streets of Baltimore and DC for several years in law enforcement...THE WIRE, the HBO series of a few years back, IS, for all intents and purposes, real life..as real as any thing I have ever seen on TV....

Posted by: redgrains at June 26, 2012 03:34 PM (TExGL)

121 Pray tell why is this surprising to anyone except the MSM?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at June 26, 2012 03:35 PM (KZI7g)

122 Lol! That's Charles Manson!
Posted by: Dang at June 26, 2012 07:30 PM

No, really?

Posted by: huerfano at June 26, 2012 03:35 PM (bAGA/)

123 >>>I read somewhere that the detective on the Zimmerman case was demoted to patrol. Don't know what that means. The theory is that he was sent down because he was the one who leaked the ccvt video inside the police station. Someone used another recording device to record it off the monitors and this wound up in the hands of the MSM. I wonder if he was paid to leak it or was he just trying to screw GZ even more.

Posted by: Redd at June 26, 2012 03:36 PM (MlggS)

124 111 What is wrong with these news organizations sending women there? This is just criminal at this point, what the hell???

Shut up, you're interfering with our worldview that Islam is a religion of peace and everyone everywhere just wants to get along and if it weren't for those dirty U.S. bastards supporting dictators the world would love us.

Posted by: The Bagdad Bob Media at June 26, 2012 03:36 PM (+XVQe)

125 "White technology"

Tell me more...

Posted by: Saruman, The White Wizard at June 26, 2012 03:36 PM (Ky1+e)

126 106 I heard ABC news on the radio lead off with "new evidence" in the Zimmerman case, but of course their spin was that it made him look more like a psycho looking to shoot saintly black children. As evidenced by the MFM's persistence in continuing to use that old picture of a chubby cheeked Trayvon as a 13 year old wearing that red shirt whenever they cover this story.

Posted by: runningrn at June 26, 2012 03:36 PM (WGmy2)

127 This was reported more than a month ago in the NYT. I'm not sure what is going on here...

Posted by: Jay at June 26, 2012 03:37 PM (TzrpT)

128 How surprising that he passed a test employing White technology administered by White technicians in the presence of White officers. Posted by: Greg Thats not true.. a couple of them were 1/32 Cherokee.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 26, 2012 03:37 PM (DGIjM)

129 77 Someone's lying, Lord!

Posted by: Choom-buy-a at June 26, 2012 07:19 PM (WGmy2)

LOL

Posted by: wooga at June 26, 2012 03:37 PM (vjyZP)

130

"Will there be riots if Zimmerman is found not guilty?"

 

If there are, the numbnuts will most likely rob and pillage their own communities.

Posted by: ErikW at June 26, 2012 03:37 PM (/G77D)

131 Can Ace use his time machine and prevent #92's zygote from attaching to his mother's uterus? Sham-Wow time on comments.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at June 26, 2012 03:37 PM (dizKt)

132 Weird, the few Hispanic guys I know despise illegal immigrants.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 03:37 PM (r4wIV)

133 The 12 y/o walking the dog who said that it was TM on top of GZ but later changed his mind after his mother lawyered up - the lawyer is a member of Team Crump. Surprise! Surprise!

Posted by: Redd at June 26, 2012 03:37 PM (MlggS)

134 I'm staying out of this unless there were dirty Asians involved. Or filthy Koreans.

Posted by: Marion Barry at June 26, 2012 03:38 PM (IoNBC)

135

Ace: ...."Is the media pleased with itself for taking the word of left-wing bloggers (as usual) and promoting a lynchmob atmosphere on this case?"

 

You know.....the leftist media/entertainers/et al, actually did do to Zimmerman......what Kimberlin has accused conservative bloggers of doing to him.

Falsely accused, of course.

 

But people on the left can apparently get away with putting out "Wanted Dead or Alive" posters, and a bounty on the head.....of anyone.

And it's deemed 'Okay'.

Posted by: wheatie at June 26, 2012 03:38 PM (0T8H7)

136 Everything goes better with a lynchmob atmosphere. Especially Justice! And Social Justice! They're only trying to help. JUSTICE FOR ZIMMERMAN. No joke.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at June 26, 2012 03:39 PM (So89d)

137 Just us for Trayvon!!!

Posted by: Crystal Magnum, Tawana Brawley, NBP, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Assorted Race Baiters at June 26, 2012 03:39 PM (WGmy2)

138 44 How surprising that he passed a test employing White technology administered by White technicians in the presence of White officers.
Posted by: Greg at June 26, 2012 07:09 PM (fP+1P


I had no idea that you could even get a quorum of whites in Orlando police HQ. Do tell us more.

And I love the "white technology." WTF?

Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 26, 2012 03:40 PM (+XVQe)

139 And I love the "white technology." WTF?Posted by: Arms Merchant

HE IS AVERAGE JOE

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at June 26, 2012 03:41 PM (famk3)

140 Derak @ 105: Liberals are not creatures of intellect.  They fully believe that gay activists, Islamofacists, race baiters and feminazis are all wonderful people and we should adopt every belief of theirs into law--no matter how contradictory--because they all hate Conservatives, and that is the one true way for them.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 26, 2012 03:41 PM (i0App)

141 White technology leads a world in phrenology.

Posted by: Jesse Jackson at June 26, 2012 03:42 PM (IoNBC)

142 How surprising that he passed a test employing White technology administered by White technicians in the presence of White officers. Posted by: Greg at June 26, 2012 07:09 PM (fP+1P Ignore that annoying white noise!

Posted by: runningrn at June 26, 2012 03:42 PM (WGmy2)

143 Posted by: ObjectionSustained at June 26, 2012 07:37 PM (dizKt)

The Germans make great stuff.

Posted by: Vince at June 26, 2012 03:42 PM (+XVQe)

144

And I love the "white technology." WTF?



 

Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 26, 2012 07:40 PM (+XVQe)

 

 

It's Gerg / Average Joe / Paris Whatever.

 

Forget it, he's an asshole who likes to get a rise out of people.

Posted by: ErikW at June 26, 2012 03:43 PM (/G77D)

145 OT:

Racist Utah Republican Congressman Jim Matheson announced he will vote for the completely politically motivated contempt charge against African American Attorney General Eric Holder.


Did I say Republican?  No, he's that other kind.

Morons, that swirling you feel is the waters of the Bipartisan Rubicon.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2012 03:43 PM (B9nls)

146 Navin, I'd love you if you were the color of a baboon's ass.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at June 26, 2012 03:43 PM (e8kgV)

147 Liberals are not creatures of intellect. Ok, so are we taking nominations for understatement of the year? This gets my vote.. lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 03:44 PM (R5yLq)

148 are they mexican? i'm half cuban, and while i don't "despise" illegal immigrants, i am more supportive of a comprehensive plan like rubio's, and i certainly believe in the rule of law. the problem is that for every illegal immigrant working in the us, there is an american...usually NOT a recent immigrant himself...who is freely and knowledgeably employing an illegal immigrant in order to take advantage of him. who is worse? the illegal immigrant who probably wants little more than to insure his family against the ravages of third-world poverty, or the businessowner who knowingly employs illegals to further enrich himself when he's probably already a firmly entrenched member of the upper-middle-class? the issue is complex, and despising illegal immigrants doesn't really address the complexity of the problem. nevertheless, while we cubans and peurtorricans tend to be less tolerant of illegal immigration, we DO have "special status"...i think you will be HARD PRESSED to find a MEXICAN-american...especially one of relatively recent generation!...who opposes "illegal" immigration. i'm sure that probably extend to most central amiercan latino voters, but mexicans are by far the largest representative bloc, and furthermore the stratum with which i have enough experience to comfortably discuss.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 03:44 PM (79EF9)

149 Cue the solemn, sonorous, and learned discussions of the inadmissibility of polygraph results in criminal proceedings in 3...2...1...

Posted by: Ken at June 26, 2012 03:44 PM (fFh95)

150 You know what Obama and his slobbering syncophants in the MFM have done with this whole thing, don't you?  This imperial presidency, this campaign, the Trayvon assault, and most all public discourse?

They have made it so that the Right can assign racism as the underlying theme to almost every move the Left makes, and be fully justified in doing so.

Yeah.  Racism flows both ways, doesn't it?  Like the tides in estuarine waters, currents can be heavy in, heavy out, and mixed.  Seems like right now racism is flowing from Left to Right, and getting stronger.  A flood tide.

There is only one way this case can go, and it is for Zimmerman to be let free with all charges dropped.  Because of the way Obama and the MFM have set the table, the event will cause flash-bangs in the media and on the streets.  If conditions are right, or wrong depending on how you look at it, there may be rumbles in places akin to the Rodney King riots.

How will this play?  Will NBC and the usual suspects "run against the man" this time?  Will Obama "evolve" and support the rule of law, or will he side with those decrying that justice4Trayvon was stomped into the dirt by the white opressors?

Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at June 26, 2012 03:45 PM (PH+2B)

151 The most annoying thing for me about this is that its bringing out some of the dumbest, most stereotypically ignorant and lacking in English grammar posters in the internet to post comments. And usually they're in this weird Ebonics format like some suburban white guy trying to sound ghetto.
I can't imagine any real street black kid posting on the internet in a comment section of a right-leaning blog so I have to conclude its some really fly white guy pretending to be black to sound authentic and ending up looking tremendously racist in the process.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 03:45 PM (r4wIV)

152 Spain demonstrates the future of Obamacare if it's not killed:

"The Ministry of Health, Social Affairs and Equal propose a list of 456 drugs that may be excluded from public funding and, as calculated by the department led by Ana Mato, would be a net savings to the NHS of 440 million euros."


Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at June 26, 2012 03:45 PM (famk3)

153 Morons, that swirling you feel is the waters of the Bipartisan Rubicon. A Holder Swirly? Oh ya, like that idea.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 03:45 PM (R5yLq)

154 It's Gerg / Average Joe / Paris Whatever. Forget it, he's an asshole who likes to get a rise out of people. Posted by: ErikW at June 26, 2012 07:43 PM (/G77D) He hasnt been around much since Wisconsin handed Dems their ass.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 26, 2012 03:45 PM (DGIjM)

155 HE'S GUILTY!!1!! YOU CAN'T GO AROUND SHOOTING BOY SCOUTS WITH SKITTLES IN THEIR HANDS!! IS EVERYONE ON CRAZY PILLS?

Posted by: KAYINSANE!!11! at June 26, 2012 03:45 PM (4cRnj)

156 BRB. My butt plug fell out, again. Posted by: Zim's PayPal Beekeeper! at June 26, 2012 07:32 PM (mxnUd) That tends to happen when you're a mouth breathing moron. (Is it kosher to do a beatdown on a sock puppet posing as the guy who deserves the beatdown? Is it a vicarious throttling? It's all so confusing.)

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at June 26, 2012 03:46 PM (dizKt)

157

"Will there be riots if Zimmerman is found not guilty?"

 

Well, as the closest Moron to Sanford, I can   tell you that the locals are expecting it. This whole debacle has made downtown a lot more dangerous and hurt a lot   of businesses, and hence, a lot of innocent people.

 

Thanks a whole fuck of a lot Sharpton, Jackson, MFM...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 26, 2012 03:46 PM (d0Tfm)

158 ".i think you will be HARD PRESSED to find a MEXICAN-american...especially one of relatively recent generation!...who opposes "illegal" immigration."
Maybe I just got lucky in Oregon or maybe things are different here than in Florida. The truth is, most legal immigrants here worked hard and had a tough time getting in and they can't stand some scumbag breaking the law and sneaking in. They say it makes them look bad, they say they worked hard and so should these immigrants. They say they are Americans and they can't stand how these illegals are violating the system.
These guys are really proud to be American citizens, maybe that's the difference, I don't know. But I've found that whatever the background - Dutch, Ivory Coast, Japan, if they came over through the system legally they're even harder on illegals than people who've been here for generations.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 03:47 PM (r4wIV)

159 @158, Are we sure it's Gerg or a very clever Greg Sock?

If it was a parody, the post was brilliant.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 26, 2012 03:48 PM (+XVQe)

160 And hard on the heels of that Dem defection on the contempt charge comes this tweet from Kudlow:

"BREAKING: Sources tell NBC News Speaker Boehner rejects a White House/DOJ offer to avoid contempt vote facing Attorney General Holder."

I detect a weeeeeeeeeee bit of panic in the air.


PUDDING.  ALL OF IT.  RIGHT HERE.  JUST PUT IT IN A BIG PILE THAT I CAN ROLL AROUND IN.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2012 03:48 PM (B9nls)

161

If you are not praying for this country fervently every day then you are wasting time.

 

 

Posted by: Scandia at June 26, 2012 03:49 PM (QWOh7)

162 @152, you must be from the east coast.


I live in CA, and 1/3 of my friends are either Mexican or married to Mexicans and they all hate illegal aliens. Hate is probably too harsh a word, but they despise what's happening, especially because their parents and grandparents waited years and spent a lot of money to get here legally.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 03:49 PM (3inkD)

163 Put that crazy bitch prosecutor on the box and lets see what happens, eh?

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 26, 2012 03:49 PM (Xj7Ow)

164 Jean writes: 38 Unfortunately he failed the "Stupid Detecor" test. Lawyer's card should be next to his CCW permit, and he should have said nothing without his lawyer present, nothing, esp. to his wife. Sorry, this is the conventional wisdom, but it's awfully bad advice. Lots of harm can come to one's hoped-for affirmative defense of self defense if one chooses to simply "say nothing" to responding officers. I've seen scores of cases where the fact that the defendant hadn't mentioned at the scene that he'd acted out of fear for his life was used to cast serious (and, yes, sometimes beyond a reasonable doubt) on such "self serving" claims made later with the benefit of hindsight and legal counsel. A truly innocent man doesn't say nothing . . . he says what a truly innocent man would say. "I was in fear for my life. I acted in self defense. I had no other option. My attacker's knife slid under that car, the red one, right there, that's it, you found it." THEN you politely decline to answer further questions until you've consulted with counsel. Spouting foolishly can indeed get one in unnecessary trouble. That doesn't mean that becoming mute is the optimal choice. It was, of course, idiotic for him to not know that every breath taken during a prison visit is recorded and, in his case, would be carefully reviewed.

Posted by: Boston12GS at June 26, 2012 03:50 PM (0VqvZ)

165 161 "Will there be riots if Zimmerman is found not guilty?"

Heck, I'm expecting riots in L.A. if Obama loses in November.

The products of our outsourced public education systems have come of age and we are now reaping the "rewards."

Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 26, 2012 03:50 PM (+XVQe)

166 the issue is complex, and despising illegal immigrants doesn't really address the complexity of the problem. Jimi, I think you'll find most of us don't despise illegal immigrants. What we despise is the useless politicians who have allowed this problem to grow to epic proportions because they have failed to act and fix major problems with how immigration is handled. You will also get a pretty emotional reaction out of many folks on this issue because billions of their hard earned tax payer dollars are being to support people who do not pay more than an extremely small percentage back into the system. You can hardly blame people for getting upset about things like that. For the most part I have nothing personal against people who came here in an attempt to make a better life for themselves. I'm all for that. They are breaking the law and that does need to be fixed/addressed, but considering the situation in Mexico if my only choice to get my family out would be to break a law or too I'd probably do the same. The problem is nobody in power wants to address the actual problem - they just want to keep kicking the can down the road. That's why it's a touchy subject for most conservatives. It has nothing to do with race or anything of the kind.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 03:51 PM (R5yLq)

167 157 Morons, that swirling you feel is the waters of the Bipartisan Rubicon. Have you all noticed that whenever something with true Bipartisan support happens, the MFM sighs a collective yawn? The last thing that passed with huge Bipartisan support was the rejection of Choom-Buy-Uh's last budget proposal. The MFM only lauds bipartisanism when it involves Republicans rolling over.

Posted by: runningrn at June 26, 2012 03:51 PM (WGmy2)

168 That damn Trayvon. I wanna cut his nuts off.

Posted by: Jesse Jackson at June 26, 2012 03:53 PM (IoNBC)

169 The most annoying thing for me about this is that its bringing out some of the dumbest, most stereotypically ignorant and lacking in English grammar posters in the internet to post comments. And usually they're in this weird Ebonics format like some suburban white guy trying to sound ghetto.

I can't imagine any real street black kid posting on the internet in a comment section of a right-leaning blog so I have to conclude its some really fly white guy pretending to be black to sound authentic and ending up looking tremendously racist in the process.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 07:45 PM (r4wIV)

 

 

------------------------------------------------

 

 

That's okay.  I speak jive.

Posted by: Barbara Billingsly at June 26, 2012 03:53 PM (jtdSY)

170 PUDDING. ALL OF IT. RIGHT HERE. JUST PUT IT IN A BIG PILE THAT I CAN ROLL AROUND IN. Wow Boehner found his balls! If Holder goes down I may have to change my nic to rubbingrn!

Posted by: runningrn at June 26, 2012 03:54 PM (WGmy2)

171 "The MFM only lauds bipartisanism when it involves Republicans rolling over."

My friends, I've done a lot of rolling over, and that's very true. Unless you're running against a preferred minority.

Posted by: John McCain at June 26, 2012 03:55 PM (+XVQe)

172 I'm pretty fly for a white guy

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at June 26, 2012 03:55 PM (v6uUi)

173 Did I catch that one right? Boehner's starting to get  the beginning of   a  pimple of a testicle?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 26, 2012 03:56 PM (d0Tfm)

174 >>>for taking the word of left-wing bloggers

8o they would never do that!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 26, 2012 03:57 PM (0q2P7)

175

He hasnt been around much since Wisconsin handed Dems their ass.

 

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 26, 2012 07:45 PM (DGIjM)

 

 

I've caught "it" a few times dropping turds lately. He feels emboldened for somw reason.

 

I smell desperation and it smells like unwashed tighty whiteys.

Posted by: ErikW at June 26, 2012 03:57 PM (/G77D)

176 Disbarment is too good for her.

Posted by: nickless at June 26, 2012 03:57 PM (MMC8r)

177 I'm pretty fly for a white guy

"Fly"?  What happened to "Da Bomb"?

Posted by: A White Guy Who Used To Be Da Bomb, But Is Now Fly at June 26, 2012 03:57 PM (QKKT0)

178

OT

 

Bill Whittle does his Tuesday night Stratosphere Lounge live stream starting in an hour, 6 pm pst.  Always a good listen.

 

http://tinyurl.com/88pwhpb

Posted by: AndrewsDad at June 26, 2012 03:58 PM (C2//T)

179 Wow Boehner found his balls! If Holder goes down I may have to change my nic to rubbingrn!


Pictures or it never happened....

Back to the topic:  It turns out that when the MFM is made to talk about something unpleasant, this administration simply does not handle it well.  And now Hoyer says he has no idea how many Democrats will vote for contempt.  Let me repeat that:  The friggin' Minority Leader says he has no idea how many--translation--more than just a couple. 

Holder will resign tomorrow to avoid being a "distraction to the great issues that face this country."

You heard me.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2012 03:58 PM (uluoH)

180 Did I catch that one right? Boehner's starting to get the beginning of a pimple of a testicle? I caught part of what he had to say on the news tonight. He almost sounded manly. Might have just been using one of those electronic doodads that make people like Miley Cyrus sound like they can sing, but for at least a minute or two he really did sound like he had a pair.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 03:59 PM (R5yLq)

181 i think the idea that illegal immigrants are "scumbags" is misguided at best. i thought the uproar over romney's "if i was a poor immigrant..." was unbelievable...but i see even reasoned, intelligent people can fall into the "hate the outsiders" trap. it's not a far cry from liberal assumptions that southerners are all uneducated mouth-breathers, is it? the vast majority of these illegal immigrants are hardworking people who just want to escape the economic desolation of their home regimes. it may be a crime to enter the country illegally, but it's no crime to want to improve your family's station by looking to columbia. there are lots of publicised cases of illegal-immigrant scumbags in the news media, sure. these guys that have three DUIs and finally kill someone? fucking scumbags. but although the "why wasn't he deported" aspect often runs a strong current under those stories due to the if-only, prevention-wishful thinking, there are a lot of stories about fucking natural-born american scumbags with three DUIs killing someone, too. illegally crossing into america does not a scumbag make...it's rather what you do when you're here. again, i would certainly believe that there are many firmly-entrenched immigrant families that oppose illegal immigration, probably having the majority of the family that they are in contact with either settled in america or comfortable with their station within their home regimes. but i still content that the vast majority of recent immigrants from "south of the border" strongly oppose efforts to curb illegal immigration...and can you really blame them for wanting their family members to share in the prosperity that american life can offer? perhaps they aren't fully thinking through the socioeconomic repercussions of blind amnesty, but that doesn't make them scumbags by ANY means.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 03:59 PM (79EF9)

182 Holder will resign tomorrow to avoid being a "distraction to the great issues that face this country."

You heard me.

Obumblefuck will need Holder around as a distraction for a few days when O'care goes down.

Posted by: Cicero at June 26, 2012 04:00 PM (QKKT0)

183 Test
:arrow: 80 :!: :idea: :mrgreen: : ops:
This completes the moron emoticon test.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 26, 2012 04:00 PM (0q2P7)

184 Who ordered the Stormfront meat whistle above? Hopefully cleaned up by now. GZ is hosed. There's no way he gets a fair or speedy trial. Corey's shenanigans, threat of riots looming and the intellect/attention span of the average juror spell hard time for this cat. There are fools on Twitter who still think GZ is some white giant. That Trayvon was some cute innocent hoodie wearing angel and that GZ had no visible injuries that night. I'm not sure how this guy makes it out alive if they throw him into GP. Even if he shivs someone on day 1 or gets protection for certain favors. I hope I'm wrong though.

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at June 26, 2012 04:00 PM (fcQvJ)

185 It's simply appalling what passes for "gated communities" these days.

Posted by: Anna Wintour at June 26, 2012 04:00 PM (IoNBC)

186 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Steevy at June 26, 2012 04:00 PM (Ts9tU)

187 And if you can't trust left-wing bloggers, who can you trust? They're the Good Guys. After all, was not the Soviet Union a bastion of Justice! And Social Justice! And the PRC (even today!). And North Korea (even today!). And Viet Nam (even today!). And Cambodia. etc. Of course they were, because that's what left-wing bloggers (and every other Leftist) are pretty much implying most of the time (whenever they're not too busy posting pics of some retarded celebrity and What She's Wearing!). And they're the Good Guys. So you can trust what they're implying. Everything works out when you're employing Leftthink (or Nuthink). Oldthink is for teabaggers, who do not employ Leftthink, and are therefore evil. You don't want to be evil, do you? Comrade.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at June 26, 2012 04:01 PM (So89d)

188

Posted by: AndrewsDad at June 26, 2012 07:58 PM (C2//T)

 

Nice! Thanks for the heads up!

 

I'll listen while I wash the rig.

 

And thanks for smart phones that are smarter than me, evidently.

Posted by: ErikW at June 26, 2012 04:02 PM (/G77D)

189 jimi ray is a moby. Last thread she started in on the name-calling with homophobe. Now she's setting up some strawman scenario where conservatives are racists. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2012 04:02 PM (5H6zj)

190 You seem to have fallen into the "I know how conservatives feel about this issue and they all feel the same way" trap yourself. Scroll up, read what I wrote on the subject. Then we can talk. As long as your suffering under the total delusion that I think illegals are scumbags their is no point, because you are 100% dead wrong. You obviously have no idea what I think, obviously didn't read what I posted on the subject and now you continue with a completely false narrative on the subject. So if your serious about a conversation on the subject, start by scrolling up and reading. Then we can proceed. If your just here to troll, then please quit wasting everyone's time.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 04:03 PM (R5yLq)

191 illegally crossing into america does not a scumbag make...it's rather what you do when you're here.

I don't know what motivated you to crawl onto the soapbox, but I don't see a lot of illegal immigrant hate being spewed around here.  Most Morons would agree with your statement.  What I despise is the political decision not to enforce the law and to allow America's immigration policy be run on the basis of who wants to sneak in, rather than who will  be good for America. We've abdicated control of our borders, which is dangerous and bad for the economy.

No one wants to kill illegal aliens.  The self-righteous pontificating gets tiresome.

Posted by: Cicero at June 26, 2012 04:03 PM (QKKT0)

192 I'm pretty fly for a white guy

"Fly"? What happened to "Da Bomb"?

Posted by: A White Guy Who Used To Be Da Bomb, But Is Now Fly at June 26, 2012 07:57 PM (QKKT0)

Can't you fuckers speak my fucking English?  Shit.  Bunch of cock-knockers....

Posted by: Elizabeth Fucking Windsor II at June 26, 2012 04:04 PM (AxHOT)

193 Holder will resign tomorrow to avoid being a "distraction to the great issues that face this country." You heard me. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2012 07:58 PM (uluoH) A psychic I follow.. (yeah.. I know).. He predicted 2 weeks ago.. that Holder will resign within 60 days.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 26, 2012 04:04 PM (DGIjM)

194 jimi ray is a moby. Last thread she started in on the name-calling with homophobe. Now she's setting up some strawman scenario where conservatives are racists. Just sayin'. I have a feeling you may be right. I guess we'll see when she responds to my last posting, or if she ignores it completely because it obviously doesn't fit with the totally false narrative she continues to advance.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 04:04 PM (R5yLq)

195 Two questions pop to mind.  First, how much does the legal defense for a murder case run?  High profile, like Zimmerman.  Half a mil for the first round?  More?  Appeals can drag out for years if he's found guilty, so over a million - win-or-lose - easy, right?

Second, if you're facing murder charges and your legal defense fund contains $200,000 - would you purchase your first ocean-front estate in Monaco or the Caribbean?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 26, 2012 04:05 PM (tpGic)

196 When I saw that size-13 AirJordan poking out of his death blanket, I knew we weren't dealing with Spud Webb.

Posted by: Charles Barkley on Le' affair Trayvon at June 26, 2012 04:05 PM (AxE3L)

197 Cleanup (and banning) is still needed on aisle 92.
 
For those who would like to see the investigative files (and I should note that Serino recommended a manslaughter charge be brought), the dreaded MSNBC has a 29 page pdf file of the interviews and whatnot.
 
http://preview.tinyurl.com/8a6oby2

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 26, 2012 04:06 PM (ccXZP)

198 If Holder goes down I may have to change my nic to rubbingrn!

Posted by: runningrn at June 26, 2012 07:54 PM (WGmy2)


Girl, you owe me a keyboard!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 04:07 PM (3inkD)

199 Second, if you're facing murder charges and your legal defense fund contains $200,000 - would you purchase your first ocean-front estate in Monaco or the Caribbean?


Monaco?  All the cool kids have their digs in Portofino.

Sit down, Mr. Vice President.  I said cool kids.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2012 04:07 PM (uluoH)

200 jimi ray is a she?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 04:08 PM (3inkD)

201 jimi ray is a moby. Last thread she started in on the name-calling with homophobe. Now she's setting up some strawman scenario where conservatives are racists. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2012 08:02 PM (5H6zj)

 

 

-------------------------------------------

 

 

Best thing to do is not respond, then let it rant until it runs out of steam.

Posted by: Soona at June 26, 2012 04:08 PM (jtdSY)

202 the dreaded MSNBC has a 29 page pdf file of the interviews and whatnot

Which, in the unedited version, comes in at 189 pages.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2012 04:08 PM (uluoH)

203 205 jimi ray is a she? She-male, baby.

Posted by: Ru Paul at June 26, 2012 04:09 PM (IoNBC)

204 Holder's resignation, even if it happened, wouldn't be enough to tamp this down.  It might even make it worse for Obama if DOJ underlings saw it as a chance to "come clean" without fear of retribution anymore.

I doubt there's little here that Holder was solely privy to.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 26, 2012 04:10 PM (Xj7Ow)

205 New thread up on ObamaCare.

Posted by: Book Geek at June 26, 2012 04:10 PM (ny/5i)

206 205 jimi ray is a she?

Now, of a sort.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 26, 2012 04:10 PM (tpGic)

207 I don't know how, but somehow George ZImmerman telling the truth is racist.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at June 26, 2012 04:10 PM (CA2NO)

208 Lead Investigator: "I never believed Zimmerman's story and thought he should be charged with manslaughter." --------------------------------- Even after the polygraph. This asshole should be fired.

Posted by: Im Riding This Racial Gravy Train To Police Chief!!!! at June 26, 2012 04:10 PM (sv/s3)

209 to all of you posters who think i would ever waste my time addressing my comments at those of average intellect, don't flatter yourself. i forgot to use the @ convention, but i was just continuing in a conversation with a reasonable and intelligent poster here...one who knows how to have policy disagreements without nasty internet invective and name-calling. how many of you are this nasty in real life? isn't internet anonymity just SOMETHING for the small-minded bully in all of us? in fact, the reason i took issue with the word "scumbag" used to blanketly describe illegal immigrants is because the word "scumbag" was blanketly used to describe illegal immigrants by a poster in this thread. there's this nifty tool called "find", actuated by ctrl+f in most browsers", that allows you to check whether someone is "setting up strawmen" or "legitimately responding to a poor choice of verbiage"...but then you wouldn't all get to prance around in your mutual echo-chamber about how fucking evil and horrible people like rubio and romney and ANDREW BREITBART YOUR HERO are for failing to fall into the far-right lockstep on social issues. get over me -- i'm nothing to write home about, trust -- and maybe you can start getting over yourselves. i vote the EXACT SAME WAY most of you do.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 04:11 PM (79EF9)

210 Holder will resign tomorrow to avoid being a "distraction to the great issues that face this country." Fuck that shit, I want answers, Steadman.

Posted by: nickless at June 26, 2012 04:12 PM (MMC8r)

211 Lie detectors are make by companies like Diebold and Halliburtan who are evil because they are corporations and to corporationy stuff. They design the machine to allow anlgo-normative white "hispanics" to lie while oppressing womyn, persons of color, and sexual minorities. The lie detectors saying he didn't lie is proof that he is lying! SOCIAL JUSTICE dictates that he must be convicted and thrown into prison for life due to his "whiteness"! His being an evil murdering opressor makes it worse!!!1! NO JUSTICE! NO PEACE! NO JUSTICE! NO PEACE! NO JUSTICE! NO PEACE!

Posted by: Social Studies Graduate Student at June 26, 2012 04:12 PM (XvHmy)

212 get over me -- i'm nothing to write home about, trust -- and maybe you can start getting over yourselves. i vote the EXACT SAME WAY most of you do.Posted by: jimi ray

Whatever you say, James Earl Ray.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at June 26, 2012 04:12 PM (famk3)

213 Can someone help me on the Moby definition? I thought a Moby was someone who posed as a partisan to drop comments that make the site and commentariat look bad.

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at June 26, 2012 04:13 PM (FZF67)

214 how many of you are this nasty in real life?

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 08:11 PM (79EF9)

I am.  Now piss off.

Posted by: Cicero at June 26, 2012 04:13 PM (QKKT0)

215 Not sure about jimi ray being a moby, could just be my trusting, innocent nature. I get where he/she is coming from: if the choice was obeying the law or stealing to keep my kid from starving, sorry shopkeeper, you're out a loaf of bread. Yes, I know it's morally wrong, and no, I wouldn't expect to be acquitted. That said, first seal the damn border, then we can argue all day about what to do with the lawbreakers. Once the leak in the hull is fixed, all suggestions as to how to bail the water are welcome.

Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at June 26, 2012 04:13 PM (I/cLr)

216

perhaps they aren't fully thinking through the socioeconomic repercussions of blind amnesty, but that doesn't make them scumbags by ANY means.

 

Scumbags?  Maybe not. 

Criminals?  Definitely.

Posted by: garrett at June 26, 2012 04:13 PM (SUjj8)

217 and jimiray is definitely a fuckin' moby

Posted by: garrett at June 26, 2012 04:14 PM (SUjj8)

218 @209 maybe you missed my first post on this thread? ----------------- 87 "Is the media pleased with itself for taking the word of left-wing bloggers (as usual) and promoting a lynchmob atmosphere on this case?" almost undoubtedly so. having the misfortune of mostly liberal friends, i can attest that the mindset is something along the lines of "the media were just equalising the automatic racist reaction of most of america". ... that is, the story goes, if the media HADN'T convicted gz so forcefully and thoroughly, white people might have thought trayvon was in the wrong. ... leaps of logic too wide for THIS white-hispanic boy who can't jump. ----------------- or maybe you missed my second? ----------------- 107 @93 well, as is being widely reported across the conservative blogosphere right now, today, obama warned the supreme court that the american people "don't want to re-legislate health care". he doesn't have a clue...he's the most visible example of cradle-to-grave liberal cocooning available to us, and tho the schadenfreude associated with his being totally out of touch is somewhat satisfying, he's unfortch the fucking president. of COURSE he's gonna play the race card...he fucking BELIEVES that shit! :/ ------------------ maybe you missed all those times that i said i consider illegal immigration wrong? i apologise for having the intellectual capacity to be able to separate irrational hatred from good policy, even when they seem to go hand-in-hand. i know how it confuses some of you when someone can be anti-illegal-immigration (and if i weren't, would i even call it "illegal immigration"? get a fucking grip, christ) and yet anti-calling-all-illegal-immigrants scumbags. nevertheless, that would be YOUR problem to fix, not mine.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 04:14 PM (79EF9)

219 to all of you posters who think i would ever waste my time addressing my comments at those of average intellect, Oh, just shut the fuck up you self-important twat.

Posted by: nickless at June 26, 2012 04:15 PM (MMC8r)

220 And as I'm typing that, he jumps all over his dick with the golf shoes. Apologies. I guess it was just my innocent, trusting nature.

Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at June 26, 2012 04:15 PM (I/cLr)

221 170- That is very well said, SoS. VERY well said. I would only add this: I am an Hispanic immigrant myself. My parents waited and worked for 7 years to come to this country LEGALLY and bring us kids. And then we went through the whole naturalization process. Like the vast majority of immigrants before us---(but not since)--- we took no handouts. There was no affirmative action for Hispanics went I went to college, no special scholarships that would let me go to the head of the line before Italian-Americans or German-Americans or other native born. We didn't get and didn't expect special favors. This is a touchy subject for natives, but also for LEGAL immigrants.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 26, 2012 04:15 PM (C8mVl)

222 It doesn't matter what the evidence says in this case, just because it never did.

George Zimmerman is a dead man.  He will be found guilty by a carefully selected jury of idiots.  (The Defense will roll over on the Prosecutor's picks, because racism and riots.)

Even if he were released tomorrow, given a new identity and address, a rabid Dem and/or Race Baiter in the Florida govt would make sure his new name and address were leaked to the "right" people.

I'm sorry, but he's dead. 

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 26, 2012 04:16 PM (i0App)

223 Wow Boehner found his balls! If Holder goes down I may have to change my nic to rubbingrn! Posted by: runningrn at June 26, 2012 07:54 PM (WGmy2) ----------------------------------------------------------- Go on.....

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 26, 2012 04:16 PM (jucos)

224 @222 careful -- keep talking like that and we might collectively figure out you're a liberal, or a "moby", whatever the fuck that is. @220 and by the way, it's not me that's making the site's commentariat (love the word!) look bad. the inability to separate personal disputes from policy disputes -- coupled with a healthy dose of Internet Tough Guy -- doesn't really flatter ANYONE.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 04:16 PM (79EF9)

225 i would ever waste my time addressing my comments at those of average intellect

addressing your comments "at"?  Nice grammar, genius.

Posted by: Cicero at June 26, 2012 04:17 PM (QKKT0)

226 Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 08:11 PM (79EF9) Get over jimi ray? It's taken me years just to get over Macho Grande. Still have the drinking problem.

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at June 26, 2012 04:19 PM (O0aoM)

227 We don't descriminate, we hate everybody

Posted by: Imadinnerjacket at June 26, 2012 04:20 PM (e8kgV)

228 @226, @227 brilliant: it's good sportsmanship for people here to a) mischaracterise what i've said; b) employ copious personal attacks; and c) speculate on my good faith, but if i defend myself with any snark whatsoever, then I'M the "twat" who's "jumping all over my dick"? what the fuck? i thought conservatives were supposed to be AGAINST in-group double standards! l-o-fucking-l. you guys really are no different from the commenters -- commentariat -- at any liberal-leaning blog site who get apoplectic when exposed to their own self-contradictions. you're about as in touch as our fine president!

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 04:20 PM (79EF9)

229 jimi ray came here angry and has gotten worse. First it was gay stuff, now it's illegal immigration. It's almost like he's coming here picking fights about hot button issues and trying to put words in everyone's mouth.


 Some people just want to stay mad and fight all the time.

Or maybe he really is a True Moron and is just drunk and argumentative.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 04:21 PM (3inkD)

230 to all of you posters who think i would ever waste my time addressing my comments at those of average intellect, don't flatter yourself. Lets see, you started with a false premise. You completely ignored my posting in which I pointed out that like me most conservatives really don't have anything against illegal immigrants as people, our problem is with the overall effect they have on our economy and the politicians on both sides refusing to deal with the actual issue. And now, you going to get snippy? Wow, that is just too funny. Seriously, don't you ever want to actually discuss real issues instead of setting up all these bogus arguments and tell the rest of us how we supposedly feel about things when in truth you haven't a fucking clue? I mean, do you see how incredibly childish this sort of behavior is? Do you even for a moment wonder what it would be like to have a political position on a subject that didn't require an almost absolute level of intellectual dishonesty to support your misguided views? Well if your looking for an adult conversation on this or any other subject let me know. Frankly I have little time for childish, poo throwing monkey trolls. And honestly, that's pretty much what you appear to be at the moment.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 04:22 PM (R5yLq)

231 Howdy, Miss Tammy! Been back on day shift, so no ONT for me.

Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at June 26, 2012 04:23 PM (I/cLr)

232 Hey, DC!

You have been missed!  Altho I have been MIA myself.

I keep meaning to ask about that bleeding heart thing in your nic....

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 04:24 PM (3inkD)

233 @231 dial it back a few notches cowboy. I was asking for clarification on the term you were being tarred with.

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at June 26, 2012 04:24 PM (1GL3e)

234 You gonna die tonight.

Posted by: Six Feet Understatement of the year at June 26, 2012 04:25 PM (BVkEs)

235 ABC has confirmed that Serino was the leaker.

Posted by: Redd at June 26, 2012 04:26 PM (MlggS)

236 Well damn it's gettin' kinda weird in this thread, huh????

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 04:26 PM (3inkD)

237 No, jimi ray, you're just an excitable idiot, and I skip your rants. You're a clown, a Yahoo-commenter, a guy with fifty bumper stickers on his truck and a unified field theory of 'them people.'

Posted by: nickless at June 26, 2012 04:27 PM (MMC8r)

238 Can someone drive jimi home tonight? ... no? Okay, jimi, I'm afraid I'll have to close out your tab, and if you could leave your car keys and a number I can reach you at, I'll be happy to call you a taxi.

Posted by: jimi ray's bartender at June 26, 2012 04:29 PM (QTHTd)

239 @237 i didn't start with a false premise. please, "Ctrl+F" and then type "scumbag", as i previously suggested you do. hopefully, we'll get you caught up and then we can actually have a conversation that doesn't involve you heaping dishonest invective on me while self-righteously decrying me for doing the same. as for that, i can only say that it's fairly logical to expect someone to fight back when they're attacked by people who haven't even taken the time to read a single word they say...and again, that internet tough guy thing just makes you look like a fucking fool. so, bottom line: my "scumbag" post had NOTHING to do with anything you posted. perhaps if you'll read more than the first line of my posts, you'll have these sort of epiphanies before having to resort to your internet bully tactics.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 04:30 PM (79EF9)

240 I am an Hispanic immigrant myself. My parents waited and worked for 7 years to come to this country LEGALLY and bring us kids. And then we went through the whole naturalization process. I tip my hat to you and to your parents Margarita DeVille. I hope the next time you see them or speak with them you will tell them how incredibly lucky we are that they did decide to immigrate here because we need as many people like them and their children as we can get. The legal immigration system we have needs a serious overhaul, no doubt about it. But sadly this is one of the most important components of the problems we face it is also the one that generally gets completely ignored. Instead we seem to keep going down this road where we want to reward bad behavior and then for some reason were shocked when it promotes even more bad behavior. But I'm really happy to hear your story and the story of your parents. It gives me hope for the future.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 04:30 PM (R5yLq)

241 It may or may not be a moby but its steadfast refusal to capitalize the first word in every sentence is irritating.  Also it spells certain words like a foreigner.  Then it randomly capitalizes certain words, which is, again, irritating.  In conclusion, FOAD.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at June 26, 2012 04:33 PM (x2CNJ)

242 Oh, and right on cue, the bully word. Way to stay on message.


I kinda like you, but I wish you'd be a little less obvious.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 04:34 PM (3inkD)

243

Maybe they could build one of those voice lie detectors into my TV?

 

Of course every time my old lady watched Brian Williams or Chrissy Mathews the fucking thing would short out and set off the smoke detectors.

Posted by: sherlock at June 26, 2012 04:34 PM (f29LO)

244

True or false:

ACE is an EWOK?

Posted by: hutch1200 at June 26, 2012 04:34 PM (QyKLb)

245 i didn't start with a false premise. Ok, try again. Taking what you think is how one conservative feels about a topic and extrapolating that to be the belief of all conservatives? False premise. In fact if you'd done that same stunt with someone based on skin tone or ancestry you'd be considered a racist. Funny how that works, isn't it? But like I said, obviously you have no interest in having an actual, adult conversation. So for now at least your 15 minutes of fame are up. Thanks for playing, please enjoy a copy of our home game.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 04:34 PM (R5yLq)

246

Posted by: Y-not at June 26, 2012 08:02 PM (5H6zj)[/]

 

I agree. It starts out sounding sane and ends up going full bore lunatic.

Posted by: Ronster at June 26, 2012 04:35 PM (mHC3R)

247 ACE is an EWOK? Sort of takes that "you are what you eat" thing to a whole new level.. lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 04:35 PM (R5yLq)

248 how many of you are this nasty in real life? Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 08:11 PM (79EF9) BLOW ME!!!!

Posted by: Mel Gibson at June 26, 2012 04:36 PM (DGIjM)

249 how many of you are this nasty in real life?

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 08:11 PM (79EF9)


Dude, this here ain't nasty. You should have been here for the various Palin, O'Donell, Romney, Perry, RINO/purity threads. I had to quit coming  here it got so bad.

Echo chamber is SO not what this joint is about.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 04:39 PM (3inkD)

250

As a concerned, mixed race, life long Republican, I hope that the criminal justice system will prevail. And Zimmerman will be found guilty.

Either way I'm getting myself a new big screen TV. If I can beat the cops to it, when the inevitable looting starts. And justice for Tryvon and shit.

Posted by: hutch1200 at June 26, 2012 04:40 PM (QyKLb)

251 Tammy, some jackass called me that when I suggested that saying "fuck you, loser" wasn't exactly an appropriate response to the family of Junior Seau after he offed himself. I liked it. Has a nice ring, dontcha think?

Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at June 26, 2012 04:40 PM (I/cLr)

252 ACE is an EWOK?

Sort of takes that "you are what you eat" thing to a whole new level.. lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 08:35

Only when he's all jacked up on the bathing saltz.

Posted by: hutch1200 at June 26, 2012 04:42 PM (QyKLb)

253 @250 lol, well, in your dictionary, what do you call it when someone fills a post with insults and ad hominem personal attacks? you seem to think i'm looking for sympathy here or something. i'd rather wish some of you would have the decency to offer up objections to my views with a little less nasty. and yes, i was guilty too, but then again, i was attacked first. i'm not perfect, and it makes me really mad to see people who vote the same way as i do making a fool of themselves because they think i'm making some liberal point about amnesty without actually bothering to digest the substance of my argument. that'll make anyone a little bit snarky, i think. also, note i said it was "internet bullying" -- that's not the same as REAL bullying. real bullying is a serious and problematic issue that can have lasting repercussions for those bullied. "internet bullying" is little more than a pitiable attempt to gain some sort of upper hand through ANGRY TALK and isn't really ultimately harmful at all...except perhaps to the standard of conduct among a given commentariat. xP it's the idea of the loudest, meanest man wins. i mean, didn't ace JUST do a post on this behaviour? and here i thought it was only liberals who threw invective-laden bitch-fits when someone disagrees with them. anyway i'm sorry about capitalisation; i'm not a great typist and i have a lot of words and sometimes it's a bad mix when you're trying to put them all on the screen. i know it makes it hard to parse sentences...i have the habit of double-spacing my sentences, but i think that doesn't translate over to html. i don't intend to be rude. i guess i have myself to blame a little bit when i complain that people don't read my shit in that regards...but fine, you don't have to read it. just don't respond to it if you don't. i'm also sorry about the "oxford" spelling. english is actually my second language, and i learned it largely in an international school with emphasis on international spelling conventions. rest assured that i would never tell you i have "tyres" on my care. >.> at least there's that.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 04:43 PM (79EF9)

254 My goodness, what a lot of words to say absolutely nothing.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at June 26, 2012 04:47 PM (x2CNJ)

255 Oh we like you jimi, just don't be so quick to go off half cocked and assume we're all bad.


DC, it DOES have a nice ring to it!

Are you reunited with Cougar and the Princess?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 04:48 PM (3inkD)

256 Rotfl - guy comes here, posts smack, tells us all how we supposedly feel about illegal immigration, ignores all evidence to the contrary and then spends 15 minutes lecturing us on internet bullying. That is just too damn funny. Seriously Ace, are you paying these guys just to liven up the blog or something? If so I tip my chapeau to you my friend. It's positively brilliant.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 04:49 PM (R5yLq)

257 Oh we like you jimi

---

Speak for yourself.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at June 26, 2012 04:51 PM (x2CNJ)

258 No, Stuck, I took that last post as conciliatory! Y'all hush now and maybe he'll calm down a little.


I like him.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 04:53 PM (3inkD)

259 @257 why do you think i'm even posting here in the first place, lol? please note that i don't mean to apply "echo-chamber" to everyone. this is the only site i post on PRECISELY because it's such a ragtag bunch of self-effacing morons. there's a LOT of wit here, too -- the commentariat is a LOT quicker with the chuckle-worthy snark than at places like, say, hotair. i appreciate that kind of high-functioning bullshit -- to each his own. it's why i'm always all over ace's dick. HOWEVER! that doesn't mean that there aren't still a LOT of people who DO appear to wish that this was a right-wing echo chamber a la DailyKos, and i think i'm justified in saying that just by the preponderance of nasty attacks on people who dare to offer a slightly different opinion than the Current Party Line. still, for a site that idolises GIANTS like breitbart -- a man who, it must be said, was nearly singularly responsible for bringing conservative media into the 21st century -- there is a LOT of social-conservative intolerance in the comments section. how quickly we forget that breitbart boycotted CPAC for disinviting GOProud? i don't even LIKE GOProud...but that action should speak words to the strategy of the hardliners...breitbart's empire didn't grow so large because he only took card-carrying comers. we want to GROW the tent, guys. trying to ostracise someone who is admittedly against illegal immigration but doesn't feel the word "scumbag" should be applied to all illegal immigrants and doesn't understand the controversy behind romney saying that he would want to bring his family here if he was in a bad country is the epitome of Poor Strategic Thinking. trying to do it acting tough and aggressive behind the anonymity of the internet just makes it fucking classless. o.o stuckonstupid: i'm done trying with you. you can't make a single post without some sort of internet tough guy insult...juxtaposed right next to a heapingly self-righteous helping of sanctimony about wanting to have an "adult conversation". you are either a brilliant caricature of the internet napoleon, or a pitiable, small-minded man.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 04:53 PM (79EF9)

260 Oh come on now, mediumheadboy, he said he votes like we do! Surely we can cut him a little slack.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor may be more of a bleeding heart than DC at June 26, 2012 04:54 PM (3inkD)

261 He said he votes like we do?  And you believe him, why exactly?  Even if it's true, I find him arrogant and condescending.  Pat Robertson votes (more or less) like we do too; doesn't make him any less of an asswipe.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at June 26, 2012 04:58 PM (x2CNJ)

262 No, Stuck, I took that last post as conciliatory! Y'all hush now and maybe he'll calm down a little. Part that cracked me up was when he talked about how he might be a little bit to blame for us "not reading his shit." I would suggest he go back and read post #170. When he does maybe then he/she/it will understand why I consider them to be a worthless, poo throwing troll. I think that position is still justified. Also while he seems to lecture the rest of us on using Ctrl F and reading his posts, apparently he has no intention of granting us the same courtesy. So yes, I've pretty much written him off. If he grows up a bit and starts talking to us rather than at us maybe I'll give him a second look. Until then, well honestly just not much there worth responding too IMHO. But hey Tammy, love you darlin and if you'd like to try and get through, feel free.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 04:58 PM (R5yLq)

263 Well, I agree with you in many ways regarding the bigger tent, but you're sort of coming across as tarring everyone with the same brush and also from a purely practical standpoint, you don't make the tent bigger by running all the current occupants out.


Immigration is probably the hottest button out there, I think even more so than gay issues. There are no easy solutions, but you can't just get all high and mighty and dismiss the opinions of those who have every reason to feel very bitter about the issue.

I live in a neighborhood that is full of illegals. Full. I wouldn't turn one of them in, but that doesn't mean I can't see the harm they are doing just by the sheer numbers of them straining various systems.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor may be more of a bleeding heart than DC at June 26, 2012 05:01 PM (3inkD)

264 Pat Robertson votes (more or less) like we do too; doesn't make him any less of an asswipe.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at June 26, 2012 08:58 PM (x2CNJ)


Darn you anyway, I can not really argue against this!  (Although I can excuse him on religious grounds)



Thank you, Stuck! 

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor may be more of a bleeding heart than DC at June 26, 2012 05:03 PM (3inkD)

265 Blue, Greg is the one troll that gets under my skin. Beyond belief. ( I'd add curious, but I still maintain that he is one of us just being ornery)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor may be more of a bleeding heart than DC at June 26, 2012 05:05 PM (3inkD)

266 Thank you, Stuck! No worries hon, I'll leave it be and let you take it from here. I wish you luck.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 05:05 PM (R5yLq)

267 Greg is the one troll that gets under my skin. Beyond belief. ( I'd add curious, but I still maintain that he is one of us just being ornery) Most of them just amuse me. Curious pissed HB off to no end one night, and she is still holding a grudge. I guess she said something really nasty about Jane'Doh and HB really went after her for it. Now whenever anyone even mentions curious her blood pressure goes up.. lol. It's kind of cute actually.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 05:08 PM (R5yLq)

268 Is the media pleased with itself for taking the word of left-wing bloggers (as usual) and promoting a lynchmob atmosphere on this case?

I will be after we edit those test questions

Posted by: Andrea Mitchell at June 26, 2012 05:08 PM (Y+DPZ)

269 brilliant caricature of the internet napoleon You haven't read a word SoS has written, have you? If you can't engage that guy rationally, as a supposed conservative with minor disagreements then you aren't being 100% up-front. As amiable as they come, SoS is. I agreed with Tammy until his last post.

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at June 26, 2012 05:09 PM (QBSWR)

270 tammy: who am i running out? i said it's poor taste to consider all illegal immigrants "scumbags". now, i am QUITE HAPPY to lead the charge against the sort of person who thinks someone is a "scumbag" for dreaming of one day tasting the freedom that all of us in america are luckily enough to still enjoy. i am also QUITE HAPPY to run out anyone who thinks it's Good Political Discourse to make fifteen posts filled with schoolyard taunts and insults nudged tightly next to a call to "adult discourse" -- give me a fucking break on that one, will ya? otherwise, i don't think i've said anything that exhibits a predisposition to run ANYONE out of the tent. i'm just offering slightly alternative views to those that might be considered "mainstream" in the interest of BUILDING the tent to accommodate such views. to suggest that i EVER "got high and mighty" like (your friend stuckonstupid) or dismissed anyone else's opinion just isn't true! in fact, i MYSELF made mention to "the socioeconomic repercussions of blind amnesty" that you are referencing...not ONLY do i fully recognise the systemic necroses that are symptomatic of unchecked illegal immigration, but i'm politically on board with REASONABLE (read: NOT the obama way!) immigration reform, probably much like you yourself are. the problem here is that so many people have been quick to position me as a bleeding-heart amnesty-addicted RINO that you've all got the wrong opinion about my poilitical orientation...an opinion that could have easily been checked against my (admittedly nearly unreadable!) comments. that immigration is a hot-button topic around here is no excuse for the childish reaction that someone who thinks blind illegal hatred -- and there are PLENTY of voters on both sides of the aisle who have an irrational hatred of immigrants, even if they aren't a part of this commentariat -- is counterproductive to actually solving the PROBLEM of illegal immigration. i assume people got pissed off because i pointed out that the problem has TWO SETS of bad actors, and that by most moral standards the americans who are knowledgeably hiring and exploiting these illegal workers are really guilty of even more egregious behaviour than the immigrants -- whose "right" to flaunt the law of this country i have been clear i DO NOT support -- themselves.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 05:14 PM (79EF9)

271 I think Z is already in the clear, as I think we know basically what happened..

BUT, The voice stress test (CVSA) is total pseudo science crap.  There is no standard for its use.. Like the questions:  They all need to be answered 'yes', or all 'no' and the questions need to be framed in a way that will require that, and that didn't happen here.  Also, 'is your name Zimmerman' is amateur hour stuff.  That only happens in the movies.  The control questions are much more complex, or need to be.

Traditional lie detectors have some of these standards, but its mainly up to the operator to 'interpret' the results, and they make mistakes all the time.  For example, a questionable result for a question could be interpreted either way.. and some people's careers are destroyed because of false positives.  Its not science, as if you send that questionable raw data to another lie detector operator, but without the questions and answers, he'll come away with a different result.  Its a mixture of science and pseudoscience that has fooled most of the population.

Its only about 80% correct at best, which is why its not useable in court.. unless both sides agree to it which never occurs.

I had to take a lie detector as part of a job interview, and 2 questions were pegged as 'lies' by the operator.. and I wasn't lying at all.  One was about prostitutes (no joke), and I was absolutely telling the truth, and the other was something really trivial, but I wasn't lying.  I entered thinking like everyone else does.. that lie detectors don't lie, but left feeling absolutely horrified and violated.  Lie detectors aren't so much about the machine, but its use as an interrogation technique.  I got alot of "you can tell me about your problem with prostitutes... I can HELP YOU..."  hahaha riiiiight I cant believe cops think that crap works.  Its so insulting

Lie detectors should be banned and scrapped forever.  They are career ruining devices.  You have nothing to gain by taking one, even if you have nothing to hide.  If you're in trouble, they likely won't publicize the results if you pass, and claim 'its part of the investigation', but if you fail, its over.

In fact, many of the 'CSI' tools and techniques are questionable, and require a lab tech or officer to 'interpret' the results.. not like real science where no matter the raw data, any scientist in the world will see and understand the results without needing an explanation.  DNA is fool proof, and another example of the mix of science and pseudo science thats very common in the field

Posted by: Can of Raid at June 26, 2012 05:14 PM (mLZe7)

272 "but then you wouldn't all get to prance around in your mutual echo-chamber about how fucking evil and horrible people like rubio and romney and ANDREW BREITBART YOUR HERO are for failing to fall into the far-right lockstep on social issues."
That didn't take long.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 05:18 PM (r4wIV)

273 @280 i don't care what you agree with :/ tammy is a boy? i see now that stuckonstupid made a very reasonable and rational post back at 170. he never directed me there before a few posts ago...by that time, you'll have to just give me leeway, i was way too tired of the 10 posts in between that were CHOCK FULL of childish insults and mendacious mischaracterisations of my own posts that i simply couldn't be bothered to engage him. i can see from post 170 that he has every capability of having the "adult conversation" he seems to pine for -- and furthermore, he's apparently a reasoned individual. it's too bad that being on the internet made him feel like it would be ok to pull out the bully behavaiour after i failed to respond to ONE reasoned post. i don't argue with internet napoleons...and as "amicable" as you might find him, i don't think you can reasonably call any post he made at (apparently this is the wrong preposition in english??) me intervening between 170 and now even remotely "amicable", reasonable, or deserving of the slightest bit of respect. if only we were having a tabletalk conversation, i'm sure he wouldn't have been so quick to jump to the nasty insults, and i'm sure we would have ended up having an intelligent and mutually satisfactory conversation. the internet is great for bringing so many opinions together...but it doesn't have a great record on civility. i myself will FULLY admit i lost control and was guilty of being a bit nasty myself...but NOTHING to the extent of stuckonstupid. for me, you see, acting really nasty on the internet has the same sort of social repercussions as acting nasty "irl". it's a shame, too, because i'm sure i would have otherwise enjoyed conversing with stuckonstupid, now that i've seen post 170.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 05:20 PM (79EF9)

274 @15. Don't forget the silverware. In Obama's defense, it may have been a sudden, unexpected onset of "The Change" in Michelle, in which case the Secret Service improvised admirably in protecting the Preezy.

Posted by: President Dole at June 26, 2012 05:22 PM (QjSgY)

275 i assume people got pissed off because i pointed out that the problem has TWO SETS of bad actors


I doubt that because I didn't see anyone even respond to it and have never even seen it discussed here, if you mean thatt hey're mad because they hire illegals themselves, I mean.

 I think we all agree that people who knowingly higher illegals are the biggest part of the problem. THAT was discussed not long ago, in fact when the ruling came out yesterday. People were furious that that part was struck down.


My intent was merely to point out how you're coming across, not to assign any real motive to you. My apologies if that didn't come across.

And in case you didn't see it in the other thread, congratulations, and many, many thanks for your service.

And with that, I'll let this go!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor may be more of a bleeding heart than DC at June 26, 2012 05:23 PM (3inkD)

276 @284 control-f seems to work. And I was referring to your last post, not Tammy's.

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at June 26, 2012 05:26 PM (mLXaN)

277 @283 i am waiting with bated breath for you to go through the rest of the posts and find all of the REALLY nasty things that were directed at me. you had enough time to dig into MY posts to find the nastiest thing *i* said, which really wasn't very nasty at all...there are plenty of FAR NASTIER things that have been said by other people, against me. i mean, since you had time to dig through my posts so you could continue the stream of non-substantive discussion (that had otherwise ceased a while back, but we can always appreciate the ressurrection of a good dead horse!), i can count on you to use what is left of your time to profile all of the MUCH NASTIER invective that was aimed my way, can't i? oh? what's that, you say? you're taking a page from the mainstream media playbook? ...but you get so INDIGNANT when they play by those rules! gawd, what a fucking joke. :/ what a fucking joke. i guess if you all haven't seen the hypocrisy by now, you're just not gonna. "even the devil is nice to his friends". cheers.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 05:27 PM (79EF9)

278 jimi loves the taste by freedom's dick.

Posted by: jimi talking in the third person at June 26, 2012 05:31 PM (nrW1y)

279 Oh hush hush hush!  What's happening is everyone is not reading through the comments in a timely fashion and then just when things settle down, oh hell....off to your rooms, immediately!

Do not come out til you're ready to be nice. Or at least civil.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 05:32 PM (3inkD)

280 Cheers back, irrational angry internet person.

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at June 26, 2012 05:32 PM (mLXaN)

281 @287 yeah, it's nice when people tell you what to look for like i did. remember how i said you should ctrl+f a specific phrase? when you don't even tell me to search ANYTHING? how am i supposed to know that the first nasty post i saw wasn't the first post he made? he never mentioned ANYTHING about post 170 until the very end of the discussion -- after he had his merry way imagining me on the internet pillory. sorry, i'm a little fucking leery of being held to standards of discourse to which you're unwilling to hold your internet buddies, but your loyalty, if nothing else, is epic. @tammy i'm sure i came accross as overly argumentative...but if you'll go back -- and i think probably you know this -- you'll see that i didn't trend that way until i refreshed the page to see some ten posts in a row, all from different people, happily dumping all sorts of personal attacks on me for apparently no reason at all than pursuant a "follow-the-leader" copycat angle where everyone jumps on the same guy for the mutually onanistic kudos. btw, the lieutenant is my fiancé. i'm the spoiled fucking brat. i don't deserve a goddamn thing based on my nonexistent record of service to this country, but i happen to be the spoiled brat that someone WHO does deserve it wants by his side.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 05:34 PM (79EF9)

282 If you plan on having a discussion on a non-threaded comment forum do learn to search the page for more than phrases. Hash tags, poster names, comment numbers all work. Especially if you're going to insult people that haven't insulted you and instruct folks on how to use the find function. Take a day off from the Internet or something. Works for me. Sometimes I go days just to keep my BP in check. You never win people over by flipping them the bird. Ever.

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at June 26, 2012 05:41 PM (mLXaN)

283 "i said it's poor taste to consider all illegal immigrants 'scumbags.'"
Maybe but that's the impression I get of immigrants who came here legally and the hard way, of those who don't.
And they have some reason for being upset, given how hard it is to follow the rules. That was just my point. Being a single-topic voter, especially something that astoundingly retarded, is simply inexcusable, and I'm particularly shocked that anyone would be that dimwitted and ignorant of the damage done by what the President has done.
I'm hoping that the folks you know are few in number because the damage they can do to America by being that credulous and easily manipulated is horrific.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 05:41 PM (r4wIV)

284 Well, thank him for me, then, and you know those who stay at home are heroes, too.

If you're gonna stay here, and I hope you do, just grow a thicker skin. SOme of us are assholes, but ya gotta let some of that roll.


Stuck is NOT an asshole and you remind me of him in your reasoned arguing skills and you also remind me of Lib Reader and I like him a lot, so please just chill a little and learn your way around our personalities so you aren't so quick to assume things.


Plus, if you keep pitching hissy fits, they're gonna jump on you even when they agree with you. So, please..... less spoiled brat, more tough mil spouse. Cuz I don't know WTH you're gonna do if EoJ gets started.


Not saying you're wrong about everything, just that I like you and hope you find a way to blend in without getting on people's nerves.


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 05:41 PM (3inkD)

285 would you like to offer, rex, a reason as to why quoting my relatively minor insult and glossing over the far more insulting language thrown at me is not PRECISELY analogous to MSM tactics of only focussing on republican fuckups? seems to be a slam-dunk analogy to me, and i'm usually not very good with analogies. most of mine are about blue skies. i don't know which of us has become more pitiful at this point...me continuing to waste my time posting long-winded shit nobody wants to read, or you continuing to waste yours reading it so that you can come back with what you appear to think are clever insults? i think we're both looking pretty fucking sad at this point, so i'm gonna go eat dinner and watch some "newsroom" to get the taste out of my mouth. see, now THERE'S a real republican! (i kid, i kid ~.~ but it's a freebie for you to tee off on anyway xD who says i can't be amicable too?) ciao ciao. and thanks for being far more reasonable and rational than i am, tammy. it's impossible to come out of a downward spiral without a beacon of light to look upon. in a cesspool of insults, who'd know otherwise which way was up?

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 05:41 PM (79EF9)

286 And damn, I didn't mean to sound so preachy and pompous.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 05:43 PM (3inkD)

287 @296 Not sure where I've insulted you and I definitely don't apologize for anything I've said to you. Enjoy your dinner, and shitty Sorkin dialogue. Thank your spouse for me while you are at it. Sincerely.

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at June 26, 2012 05:51 PM (+z5LA)

288 Enjoy your supper, sweet pea.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 05:52 PM (3inkD)

289 And damn, I didn't mean to sound so preachy and pompous. Didn't sound that way to me darlin, no worries. Frankly I'm willing to chalk the whole thing up to miscommunication and move on - hopefully others will be willing to do the same.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 05:52 PM (R5yLq)

290 Ah, well, tomorrow is another day, right, Stuck??

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2012 05:55 PM (3inkD)

291 eh, one more. i've been here for like four years. i've just been posting A LOT in the past two weeks because i've been in hospital convalescing and there's only so much to occupy oneself with after one has read the entire internet. you're right, anyway, of course, and i'm embarrassed that i lost control so quickly. i'd like to blame the painkillers for giving me a shorter-than-normal temper, but that wouldn't be very personally responsible of me, now would it? xD anyway, i think the problem is that "echo-chambers: don't do much for me, even when it's my own voice that's floating around, so i only tend to post when i have an opinion somewhat contrary to the so-called party line. "if i remained silent, i'd be guilty of complicity". i think that's einstein. (jewish thinkers are so fucking RAWR.) i doubt, given the response that i've encountered to a number of my posts that are quite reasonable and devoid of the ever-so-popular internet insults, that i should ever avoid pissing off a large subset of the commentariat here just by virtue of not toeing the line...but your admonition to avoid taking the bait will be well-heeded! at the risk of sounding douchey, i;m not here for friends hur hur hur...but then i'm not here to make myself look like a childish bitch-fitter because people don't like what i say, either. so i again appreciate your patience and willingness to bring me back around. you're wrong about one thing -- stuckonstupid not being an asshole -- though. now, i'm SURE i would have enjoyed a discussion with him...i've said as much and i've been very open with my opinion that he is an apparently well-reasoned individual. again, that's the bullshit i get off on...i've probably found myself admiring his comments in the past, in fact, lol. nevertheless, if it only takes ONE POST for someone to go from "reasonable discussion" to "full-on insult-fest", ESPECIALLY when you add in the blatant hypocrisy of demanding an "Adult Conversation" in the midst of the endless ad hominem!, then that person has SERIOUS asshole issues that should be addressed with a therapist. again, it's the internet anonymity thing...how many of us who would NEVER have acted like a jerk 100 years ago mutate into cruel-minded, insulting monsters when protected from social repercussions by the anonymity of the internet? but that's obviously no excuse, and it's my loss and his that he couldn't control himself better when the mob started piping up with "dicksucker" and "fucking retated [sic]". it took him A LOT longer to "calm down" than it did me...not to mention he got nasty first, and much nastier than i ever got!...and i'm quite embarrassed even at how i lost control. if there's no excuse for me peppering my replies with some nasty snark -- and there's not -- there's even less for him *essentially* building entire posts around personal attacks. maybe he's not an asshole when he thinks people agree with him. again, devil's company. whatever. like i said before, it's both our loss, apparently, because he seems like a really smart guy, but again, with ME, i try to maintain a policy of "social repercussions" for bad behaviour on the internet...i think, until the entire community of collective internet commentariats demands a bit of civility, there's no end to the "internet tough guy" phenomenon in sight. getting away with being a dick is just too fucking delicious...we're unfortunately all humans at heart!

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 05:58 PM (79EF9)

292 I just don't get people who condemn everyone for condemning everyone. That just makes no sense to me. How is it not you being a "purist" when you reject someone for being purist? Get out of my movement you lunatic who wants people thrown out of the movement!!
At least people who have a special issue they won't give in on are doing so out of integrity and principle rather.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 26, 2012 05:58 PM (r4wIV)

293 Keep hitting the Zim's PayPal. Don't let the feral uncivilized Obama voters win IYKWIMAITYDKWIM

Posted by: Zim's PayPal Bookeeper at June 26, 2012 06:01 PM (cl+LG)

294 Ah, well, tomorrow is another day, right, Stuck?? Yup, that it is. The sun will come up and go down again. Nice that it doesn't seem to concern itself much with any other extraneous nonsense.. lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 06:05 PM (R5yLq)

295 There's more than that.  One of the detectives was leaking info to NBC news.  He has since been "retired" or something and the NBC news correspondent has been shipped overseas.

conservativetreehouse link:

http://tinyurl.com/7focfwl

Posted by: crosspatch at June 26, 2012 06:10 PM (ZbLJZ)

296 Jimi ray, Just for the record, my lack of responses has nothing to do with needing time to calm down. I'm calm now and have remained so pretty much throughout. If you scroll up you'll noticed I promised Tammy I'd drop it, and I did - I respond now only in the hopes that you will perhaps be willing to accept my previous offer to chalk it up to miscommunication and move on. If not I'll understand. However I would hope that you will note that my responses to you are much as I respond to most - and when it appeared that you were not reading what I posted and continued to insist on telling me what I thought about illegals you got classified as a troll. If you have been reading here then I'm sure your well aware that I pull no punches with trolls, they get what they deserve. If you are indeed not a troll then so be it, the treatment was unwarranted. However when people do not acknowledge responses and continue to proceed from false premises and tell me how I supposedly feel about a subject after I have told them in no uncertain terms that is not how I feel, then yes I do tend to classify them as trolls and respond accordingly. If that was unwarranted then you have my apologies. Not much more I can do at this stage.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 06:13 PM (R5yLq)

297 Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 26, 2012 10:13 PM (R5yLq) OMG! Teh debbil! Good on you SoS.

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at June 26, 2012 06:17 PM (R8Qio)

298 Posted by: Zim's PayPal Bookeeper at June 26, 2012 10:01 PM (cl+LG)

Ah, THIS.  This one is unquestionably a troll, and a remarkably stupid one, at that.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at June 26, 2012 07:35 PM (x2CNJ)

299 Lie detectors are racist

Posted by: skinnydipinacid at June 26, 2012 08:33 PM (F7XAG)

300 BTW, Trayvon is now apparently the new OJ as far as some people go, innocent all the way, persecuted for being black.

So, another national leftwing myth has been created.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 26, 2012 07:04 PM (QxSug)

*****************

And Trayvon was every bit as  "innocent"  as OJ was.

Posted by: Bystander at June 27, 2012 03:55 AM (/sohm)

301 106: Yeah, I saw that Good Morning America bit this morning, too. After the dramatic "new evidence means bad news for George Zimmerman" intro, I tried to identify one single item that actually made Zimmerman look bad, or actually told anyone anything "new" and I couldn't find it. Basically, the cops took him in, asked him questions, were satisfied with his answers, gave him a "deception" test (I'm pretty sure that's the term they used, because I wondered what it meant) and subsequently set him free. I can only assume that by ABC's standards, being asked questions by police is somehow evidence of guilt.

Oh, and then they had an interview with some anonymous dude who claimed Zimmerman "bullied him 24-7" while they worked at CarMax. What this means and why it has anything to do with anything is left unmentioned. I guess when anonymous people make unverifiable statements of vague wrongdoing against a man, it's a prime indicator he's a violent racist murderer. And, even worse, a bully. Thanks, ABC.

Posted by: GalosGann at June 27, 2012 05:08 AM (T3KlW)

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