1
What is Mitt Romney hiding in his tax returns??

Did Mitt pay his fair share?

2
Who killed JoePa?

3

Troof.

4
Did Justin pull all that out of his ass?
Because it seems so.

It's all over the place.

5 Sarcasm?

6 Life  ( Republican primary season )  is like a box of poisoned chocolates

7 ABO

8

Finally, I'd like to thank all of the other, decent candidates who decided not to run this year because they have a better shot in 2016.

You know, I'd like actual quotes from anyone saying that they'd have a better shot in 2016 and that's why they aren't running.  Because otherwise?  Yeah, that's a nasty, nasty slur.  And I say this as someone who has bellowed WHY HAST THOU BETRAYED ME to Ryan and Jindal. 

And since it's Airing Of Grievances, I want people to go read what is being said about Mitch Daniels' wife by those on the Right and then come back and tell me why anyone who isn't a total sociopath would put his/her family through the campaign process. 

9 Bad ergie!

10 Wow.  I'm gone for a week and the damn place falls apart.  Looks like the frat house in Animal House.

11 It's already Thanksgiving?

12 Justin Bieber penned this?

13
Really, now.

Justin, child, pleeeease. What does Sarah Palin have to do with any of this?

Rick Perry sucked but he doesn't deserve all the blame. All his supporters who never even ordered a bumper sticker have a share in his failure. Rick needed help; what did you do to help him?

14 At least Palin didnt run. She would of made the primary a joke!

15 Did Justin pull all that out of his ass?
Because it seems so. Posted by: soothsayer

Ok, let's hear how much you've enjoyed this primary. C'mon, chop, chop.

16 I am trying to come to terms with the fact that the republic will end in my lifetime.

But, I suppose every generation has felt like that, right?

17 Justin sounds like the kind of guy who looks past the deep voice and man hands, ignores the adam's apple and thenmakes the best of a bad situation once he's all alone with the tranny he brought home shortly after last call.

18 The pro-Gingrich ads from that PAC Winning the Future (or something like that) have been completely overhauled here in NC. Two days ago, they were all "vulture picking at a carcass..." anti-Bain hit pieces. Today, I'm hearing a new "sunny" ad all about renewing America. Strategy shift noted.

19 No post on Obama celebrating Roe so that our sons can 'fulfill their dreams'.

Seriously have you ever read anything more vile??

He is beyond being mentally defective. I'm not even sure what the hell we can call him at this point.

20 Just what we need, more whining. 

21 Did Mitt pay his fair share?

"Fair share?"  What, we're Occupiers now?

22 At least Palin didnt run. She would of made the primary a joke!

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 23, 2012 12:48 PM (QOQWk)

 

Well, we still have you... 

AHOY!

23
This GOP primary process is great...if you're inclined to think capitalism isn't all that. Or if you think at a certain point, you've made enough money.

24 Ya' know.  People were saying the very same things back in 1980.

25 OK-how does this "fix" what's wrong with Romney?

26 Satan has an asshole?

27 Who the hell wrote that?

28 I'm not even sure what the hell we can call him at this point.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 23, 2012 12:49 PM (pLTLS)

I'm hoping 'one termer'.

29 I can't remember a Republican primary this bloody and my first vote was for Reagan.

Romney wants my vote....earn it.  I'm not an easy lay you can just whisper sweet nothings in my ear and expect a bj.

Work for it...or at least buy me dinner and I don't mean the Golden Corral.

30 I don't know what you want us to say.

31 Occupy Satan's Asshole

32 ...and then eating said platter because you're a fucking moron. Hey, it could happen to anyone. ...twice.

33

He is beyond being mentally defective. I'm not even sure what the hell we can call him at this point.

 

Depends on how bad you want a paddlin' bannin'!?

34 I want to give you all a special go to hell from the depths of my soul. You're worse than a Democrat. At least the Democrat voter naively believes that another Obama term is in the country's best interest. You know damn well what 4 more years of Obama mean and you'll let it happen our of petulance and pride. Yes, I'm sure we'll get the second coming of Reagan in 2016 to make up for it. That worked so well in 2008, didn't it? Idiots.

But I'm not bitter.

35 It's not my MAN Romney-it's all you other bastards!!!1!

36
Justin seems to have liked Gov Perry the most. So what did Justin do to help Rick Perry?

37 Did Mitt pay his fair share?

Well, does he have any money left?!!!


Does he?!

38 Romney 2012 :Because If Coulter et al Call You Idiots-You'll Vote For US!!1!

39 Pawlenty's problems are all his own just like Perry. Had little to do with ethanol either.

As to this primary? I love it. Obama was a much better candidate for his battle with Hillary. Plus it's a ton of free air time for whoever the eventually nominee is.

If Mitt can't beat Newt Frigging' Gingrich; a guy who hasn't been relevant nationally in 15 years,is old, fat and named NEWT,  in a primary I don't give him much chance in the General Election.

40 What pussy penned that?

41 That there is smaaaaaht!

42

Personally, I'd like to thank Ace of Spades for putting all the money on Perry for far too long and in the face of overwhelming evidence of his weaknesses, rather than on people who were actually credible.

Seriously, weren't 80% of the people here for Cain or Perry at one point? And now were going to pretend we want electability?

I don't get it.

 

43 The GOP primary is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.  Or maybe a tragedy for those who think but a comedy for those who like three stooges movies.  Anyway, it's damn entertaining.

44 Rick needed help; what did you do to help him? Purchase a bumper sticker and Rick Perry will prepare for the debates, is that how that's supposed to work?

45 Coulter needs to take a Valium and chase it with vodka.  Calm the fuck down.  She is at a 9 on my screech meter right now.

46 Print and send this beauty to passiveaggressivenotes.com

47 WHY!! WHY!

48 I'm already tired of the election season, and it's only January.

It's going to be a long friggin' year.

49 Mitt, the Clark Kent thing needs to go.

50 Romney fans... The target is Gingrich-not the voters-you brilliant terms of the bass.

51
Purchase a bumper sticker and Rick Perry will prepare for the debates, is that how that's supposed to work?

What, you don't believe in positive reinforcement?

52 Hoooooeeeee! That thar is a heapin' helpin" 'O' serious butt hurt.

53

What I said in the other thread:

There is a type of guy who typically wins and a type of guy who doesn't.

I didn't want the RINO guy.

But I NEED OBAMA OUT OF OFFICE.

Under no circumstances can we let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

WE NEED OBAMA OUT OF OFFICE. PERIOD.

No, NOT fucking period, Ace.  We need someone to undo what Obama's done, and then do what needs to be done to fix all the problems Obama's ignored.

The people you insult get that.  You don't.  Why not?

The voters seem to want someone who will LEAD like they want, not just someone who beats Obama, which only gets us back to the peach days of 2008, which weren't fucking peachy.

The Tea Party voters aren't scare that Romney won't beat Obama.  They're scared that he'll LEAD like Obama- that is lead not much at all.

Why is that fear irrational?  Why does it make them flighty or desperate for seeking alternatives for months?  Months BEFORE an election, before any votes were ever cast?

54

rather than on people who were actually credible.

annnnnnnnnddddddddd.............................who would that be again?

55 You know, I'd like actual quotes from anyone saying that they'd have a better shot in 2016 and that's why they aren't running.  Because otherwise?  Yeah, that's a nasty, nasty slur.  And I say this as someone who has bellowed WHY HAST THOU BETRAYED ME to Ryan and Jindal.

I know. Ryan's a HOUSE guy.  I'll blame him for not running for Senate, but not for not running for President. Rubio and Christie barely started their terms (and Christie's just too liberal for the GOP at the national level).

Daniels is really not the great savior.  Excellent governor, but with less charisma than Romney and an annoying tendency to piss off the base.

Jindal's the only guy who had a plausible case to run who didn't. 

But if you want to know why, look at Perry and look at Virginia.  A Republican simply cannot decide to run for president so soon before the election.  He can't.  Perry wasn't ready on national issues or the rough-and-tumble of campaigning.  He also couldn't get on the ballot in Virginia.  For Democrats, it's easier.  If you have one of their pre-packaged group of brownshirts on your side (SEIU) then they can do all of the hard work for you.

56

What pussy penned that?

I suspect it was one of Ace's stuffed animals.  Polly Prissypants or Clyde Frog... 

Probably scribbled that on the back of the RSVP for the invitation to Ace's combination Superbowl / Sunday afternoon Tea Party.

57 I think I qualified that  to "not in a primary I won't vote for Mitt."   Just so we're clear on that point.

58 Well Justin's rant should make Jeff B feel better, isn't that similar to how Jeff B feels?

59 Satan has an asshole? Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at January 23, 2012 12:51 PM (RD7QR And shit runs down hill

60

To add: when 75% of the GOP primary electorate wants Anybody But Romney, maybe there's wisdom there.

To Ace, that's insanity.

61 Coulter needs to take a Valium and chase it with vodka. Calm the fuck down. She is at a 9 on my screech meter right now. **** See how she works for us... This is how she's always "helped" us lose the big dance...

62 Petulance and pride? Really? That's the only possible reason someone could refuse to vote for Romney? It's a stupid system. None of these rocket scientists have bothered to fix it in any way. So, if it's 10 months out from the election and somehow stuck with unpalatable choices, that suggests a degree of sclerosis that requires death and replacement.

63
Relax, peeps.

Four years of Carter gave us 8 years of Reagan.

64 Is Justin Ace?

65 I would vote for Romney if he wins the nomination.  But, I don't think he can win the general.  It's unfortunate, but he just can't energize the base.  And without an energized base, no republican is going to win.

66 Seriously I want to vote for Mitt -but then.. shit like this happens.

67 ABO.

Unfortunately, that means that Jack Box could run and I'd vote for him.

68

To add: when 75% of the GOP primary electorate wants Anybody But Romney, maybe there's wisdom there.

To Ace, that's insanity.

Posted by: WTF at January 23, 2012 12:57 PM (MPIX5)

but Mr. 5% could have been a contenda

69
Butt-hurt, angry and vengeful is no way to go through life son.

70 The last two paragraphs sum it up for me. 100% concur.

71

Daniels is really not the great savior.  Excellent governor, but with less charisma than Romney and an annoying tendency to piss off the base.

He's also pussywhipped, bald and shorter than luaP noR.

72 Rick Perry sucked but he doesn't deserve all the blame. All his supporters who never even ordered a bumper sticker have a share in his failure. Rick needed help; what did you do to help him?

I had been trying to defend him, but I have a full time job and stuff. And I think the people attacking him didn't.

73 I am truly grateful that Herb Cain was thrown off the stage.

74
"...and opportunities as our sons to fulfill their dreams.”

Unless your unborn son is Tim Tebow.

75

Wait a minute. 

IsnÂ’t this Ace of Spades HQ?  The website dedicated to systematically destroying each and every republican potential nominee?

People here are just doing their jobs.  ItÂ’s important to explain to every conservative what a total asshole they are for supporting whoever they are supporting. 

76 Careful...stay still...don't want to stick you with the diaper pin...

77

I'm not an easy lay you can just whisper sweet nothings in my ear and expect a bj.

Well...there goes that plan.  Back to the drawing board.

78 19 No post on Obama celebrating Roe so that our sons can 'fulfill their dreams'.

Seriously have you ever read anything more vile??

He is beyond being mentally defective. I'm not even sure what the hell we can call him at this point.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 23, 2012 12:49 PM (pLTLS)

It's even worse than that.  Apparently, in the context of giving Roe v. Wade a metaphorical tongue bath, he talked about “continu[ing] our efforts to ensure that our daughters have the same rights, freedoms, and opportunities as our sons to fulfill their dreams.”  'Cause, you know, fulfilling your dreams hinges on killing your unborn offspring.  Depraved, morally bankrupt, and benighted come to mind. 

79
Work for it...or at least buy me dinner and I don't mean the Golden Corral.

Posted by: mpfs, back in my cubicle from hell at January 23, 2012 12:51 PM (iYbLN)

But.......The Chocolate Wonderfall!!!!

80

"Justin seems to have liked Gov Perry the most. So what due Justin do to help Rick Perry?
<<<

A variation even of the already pussy-sounding "chickenhawk" accusation, but with 30% more Sandy Vagina.  

81 We are living in interesting times.

82 59 Satan has an asshole?
Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at January 23, 2012 12:51 PM (RD7QR

And shit runs down hill

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 23, 2012 12:57 PM (i6RpT)

In Dante's Inferno Satan is depicted as being enormous -- you can climb on him. Think about the size of the shit running downhill. Now consider that shit about that large is going to rain down on our country if we don't beat the SCOAMF. Gingrich/Romney or Romney/Gingrich 2012 -- Don't Let the Satanic Shit Roll Down on Us!

83 26 Satan has an asshole?

Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at January 23, 2012 12:51 PM (RD7QR)

Yes, and if it is any consolation to you morons as we survey the steaming mess that is the primary season so far, Ted Kennedy has been tossing Satan's salad since he arrived down there.

84

What is so wrong with asking Mitt to earn our vote.  If we are simply going to tell Mitt - that it doesn't matter Mitt, you aren't Barack, we'll vote for you anyway - then we shouldn't complain when Mitt doesn't act like a conservative.  Because like Romneycare, we can just explain it away.  Maybe we will vote for Mitt, but please, earn my vote, make a minimal effort.  I'm not a centrist nor an independent.  Appeal to me.  Then try to appeal to them.

And so what if Palin played her little dance.  She can do whatever she wants.  To blame what has happend in the primary thus far on Palin seems a little far fetched.  Let's blame Bush too while we are at it.  If it wasn't for him, maybe Jeb could have run.  Perhaps Cain and Bachman screwed things up for Perry.  Or maybe Perry just didn't come prepared.  Maybe Perry should have skipped some debates until it was necessary for him to do them, or until he recovered from his back surgery.  I don't know.  Perry had his chance, he had a big lead, he let it slip away.  What's done is done. 

Mitch could have run, so could have Christie.  They decided not to.  That was their right.  They didn't show up to play.  After the way the other candidates are treated, can anyone blame them.  Perry is now basically known as an idiot, despite being a succesful 3-term govenor of the 2nd largest state.  Santorum is a creep who grieves for his lost child in weird ways. 

These are the candidates we have left. 

85

I'm not an easy lay you can just whisper sweet nothings in my ear and expect a bj.

Well...there goes that plan.  Back to the drawing board.

Posted by: Sean Bannion

Keep Dreaming Mr. Bannion! 

86 45 Coulter needs to take a Valium and chase it with vodka.  Calm the fuck down.  She is at a 9 on my screech meter right now.

I understand the frustration against those who prefer Gingrich over Romney on the grounds of "electability".  But I'm sorry, I refuse to accept complaints about the allegedly counterproductive combative tone of Gingrich 's statements from the author or "Treason", "Guilty", and "Demonic".

87 The assumption there is that baby daddy cruises on to knock up another 16 year old who then murders another baby.........nice.

88 Is there is enough time for TRUE CONSERVATIVES to find a Sharon Angle or Christine O'Donnell to save us from Romney? Personally, I'd feel much more comfortable with Romney if he came out and said "States are laboratories for new ideas. RomneyCare was carefully thought out and implemented (gag!), but it failed. Let's move on to a new idea." Backing a losing position in the face of all evidence reminds me too much of Obama and other progressives. I do wish Perry would have done better. May not have been the sharpest spoon in the drawer, but I think he would have picked good people to get the actual work done. And I don't think he was married to the immigration thing and would have jettisoned it without looking back.

89 Ace destroyed Palin, in that he told the truth about her.

90

Keep Dreaming Mr. Bannion! 
Posted by: mpfs, back in my cubicle from hell at January 23, 2012 01:03 PM (iYbLN)

I do!  Every night.

I think it's a sin, but I am not sure.

91 Work for it...or at least buy me dinner and I don't mean the Golden Corral.

Posted by: mpfs, back in my cubicle from hell at January 23, 2012 12:51 PM (iYbLN)

But.......The Chocolate Wonderfall!!!!



Posted by: © Sponge

Not even for that Sponge, not even for that.

92 President Barack Obama says the 39^th anniversary of Roe v. Wade is the chance to recognize the “fundamental constitutional right” to abortion and to “continue our efforts to ensure that our daughters have the same rights, freedoms, and opportunities as our sons to fulfill their dreams.”

c'mon Gals.. do IT for the boys!

93 Who's saying they wouldn't vote for Romney in the general? What kind of strawman is that?

94 Personally, I'd like to thank Ace of Spades for putting all the money on Perry for far too long and in the face of overwhelming evidence of his weaknesses, rather than on people who were actually credible.

Damn, Ace, did you realize you held so much power in your paws?!

95 What is so wrong with asking Mitt to earn our vote. If we are simply going to tell Mitt - that it doesn't matter Mitt, you aren't Barack, we'll vote for you anyway - then we shouldn't complain when Mitt doesn't act like a conservative. Posted by: SH at January 23, 2012 01:03 PM (gmeXX) I see the point in this but that's all in the primary with Gingrich. Once it hits the general, anyone who doesn't get up and vote for the Republican needs to swallow all the self-righteous bombast they trumpeted from the rooftops about our current idiot-in-chief.

96

To blame what has happend in the primary thus far on Palin seems a little far fetched.

Posted by: SH at January 23, 2012 01:03 PM (gmeXX)

 

Apparently, the theory was that if Ace ran 6 to 10 posts per day adopting left-wing talking points about Palin, people would understand what total assholes they were for supporting her and switch their loyalty to Perry.

ItÂ’s still a mystery why that tactic didnÂ’t produce better results.

97 96 Personally, I'd like to thank Ace of Spades for putting all the money on Perry for far too long and in the face of overwhelming evidence of his weaknesses, rather than on people who were actually credible. "people who were actually credible" LOOOOL

98 Justin,
God Almighty has your back.
Pray for what you want. Rick Perry? Really?
Me? I'm praying that my life gets happier and more prosperous. I don't care which goofballs are the instruments used to make my prayers happen. I pray that I do my part in the Plan. Have faith.

99 honestly, it looks like Obama really does believe having children is a job no woman should do.
eh punishment.

100 “continue our efforts to ensure that our daughters have the same rights, freedoms, and opportunities as our sons to fulfill their dreams.” And its alot easier because there are fewer daughters thanks to sex-selective removal of Products of Conception.

101 Who's saying they wouldn't vote for Romney in the general? What kind of strawman is that?

Numerous folks here have said it.

102

Once it hits the general, anyone who doesn't get up and vote for the Republican needs to swallow all the self-righteous bombast they trumpeted from the rooftops about our current idiot-in-chief.

^^^^THIS

103 "Ace destroyed Palin, in that he told the truth about her." Didn't Palin's candidate win SC?

104 If you love me, you'll abort those unviable tissue masses and vote for me.

105 >>Not even for that Sponge, not even for that. Oh, look at the bloomin' Queen o' England!

106 Not even for that Sponge, not even for that.

Posted by: mpfs, back in my cubicle from hell at January 23, 2012 01:05 PM (iYbLN)

Damn....that's one tough BJ to get.....

107 off sock

108 Didn't Palin's candidate win SC? Posted by: cherry π at January 23, 2012 01:10 PM (OhYCU) There's a distinction between correlation and causation I'd like you to take a look at before the next time you feel the need to embarrass yourself

109

Damn....that's one tough BJ to get.....

Posted by: © Sponge

Maybe you're not spongeworthy

Thank you!  Thank you!  I'll be here all week.  Don't forget to tip your waitress.

110 Who killed JoePa?

Posted by: soothsayer at January 23, 2012 12:43 PM (sqkOB)

According to ESPN's (and former PSU QB) Todd Blackledge, we all killed Joe Pa because he died "of a broken heart."  It was the university's fault, the media's fault, and the online commenters' fault.  Strangely, Sandusky escapes Blackledge's wrath.  Hmmm.

111  Who's saying they wouldn't vote for Romney in the general? What kind of strawman is that?

Numerous folks here have said it.

Posted by: Occupy the Retards at January 23, 2012 01:10 PM (piMMO)

 

You hear it from the DNC shills who regularly post here.  And don't think they don't come out in force on this blog.  They do. 

112 I give thanks because it could have been much, much worse.

Huckabee could have run.  He would probably be leading right now.

113

I do!  Every night.

I think it's a sin, but I am not sure.

Posted by: Sean Bannion

I think that's classified Popey stuff in the Vatican.

114 OTR, If they have and you've seen it then I concede. I really can't imagine there's enough of those people to make a difference though.

115 Heh.

Remember the parents who names their kid Sasha and refused to acknowledge the child's gender? The kid just started school and the school demanded to know the gender and it turns out the little kid is a boy. Now, the school has acquiesced and is letting him wear the top half of a girls' uniform and the bottom half of a boys uniform.

Odds on him one day...

A. Killing himself
B. Killing his parents
C. Being the Democratic nominee for president

116 Didn't Palin's candidate win SC?

Posted by: cherry ð at January 23, 2012 01:10 PM (OhYCU)

 

AHOY!

117

To add: when 75% of the GOP primary electorate wants Anybody But Romney, maybe there's wisdom there.

To Ace, that's insanity.

If 75% of them wanna suck Saudi dick in the name of Stopping Global Warming, they can take their Traitor Couch and shove it up their ass.

I mean, Newt is lying to someone about his position on Global Warming... y'all are just asking me to believe that he was lying when he was on the couch with Nancy and telling the truth to me.

Now sure, you and he can say he's changed his mind... and he's not just telling me what I want to hear, but who am I more likely to believe on that score, the guy who's still on his starter wife, or the serial adulterer who finally found a wife who doesn't care about adultery on marriage number 3?

118 OTR, If they have and you've seen it then I concede. I really can't imagine there's enough of those people to make a difference though.

On the last thread, although I suspect they are full of bullshit.

119

According to ESPN's (and former PSU QB) Todd Blackledge, we all killed Joe Pa because he died "of a broken heart."  It was the university's fault, the media's fault, and the online commenters' fault.  Strangely, Sandusky escapes Blackledge's wrath.  Hmmm.

Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at January 23, 2012 01:13 PM (1H47k)

That douche just reminds me why I think all those assholes out there that think their college, or team, or whatever, are the greatest thing ever are mental fucktards.

JoPa put the logo of the school ahead of the anus's of young boys......for THAT, he was put to pasture.....nothing more.  Todd Blackledge is a cultist freak like the rest of em.

120 It would have been nice to have this debate last year but I guess now is as good as any time.

I see wisdom on both sides. One believes that 4 more years of socialist democrat action is more dangerous than 4 or 8 years of moderate, squish RINO action. At least the RINO can be made to behave by a congressional GOP majority, or so they believe and in some instances, they are probably right. Whether or not it applies to Romney or Gingrich is impossible to foresee. They are just guessing. W was a domestic disaster and few if any of the Congressional GOPs stood up to him.

The other side is convinced that the 'lose more slowly' plan of the last 20+ years has damaged conservatism to the point that the American public has little idea why conservatism was and is the best philosophical path for our Republic. Running RINO's and having to deal with their inevitable mistakes vis a vis the economy and the size of government has left a deep gash in the hull, so deep that the party and the country are sinking together.  So the hardcore decides to scuttle the ship in the belief that the survivors will find another, better ship just on the horizon. I hope your kids can swim because the hardcore didn't want to sit on that boat another second.

Both sides have their points, but both cannot be right. The reason we are in this season of misery is that we should have hashed this out last year.

121 hell. not only does ace yell at us , we have a  stranger doing the same.

stranger lays out the issues the candidates have, and ruined their chances than says:
At least the Democrat voter naively believes that another Obama term is in the country's best interest. You know damn well what 4 more years of Obama mean and you'll let it happen our of petulance and pride. Yes, I'm sure we'll get the second coming of Reagan in 2016 to make up for it. That worked so well in 2008, didn't it? Idiots.

very helpful.

122 94 President Barack Obama says the 39^th anniversary of Roe v. Wade is the chance to recognize the “fundamental constitutional right” to abortion and to “continue our efforts to ensure that our daughters have the same rights, freedoms, and opportunities as our sons to fulfill their dreams.”

Willow,
I was listening to talk radio on the way home from the airport last night ( don't know what show was) but the host had a guest on who stated that in ONE Memphis high school 90 (that's right) 90 girls were pregnant.  Jesus, Mary and Jose what have we become?  Why isn't this in the MFM?

123 I'm all for Newtie. If we can't win, we might as well be entertaining!

124

There's a distinction between correlation and causation I'd like you to take a look at before the next time you feel the need to embarrass yourself

 

But, but...the South Carolina Snowmobile Vote put Newt over the Top!

125

Thank you!  Thank you!  I'll be here all week.  Don't forget to tip your waitress.

Posted by: Sean Bannion


I'll have the veal waiter.

126 Argh, my italics got eaten. Bah.

127 Gingrich/Romney '12
"Holy Shit, where's the Tylenol."

128

Is Obama trying to help Newt win Florida?

Of course. Obama would much rather face pasty old guy again. That was easy.

129 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 23, 2012 01:16 PM (piMMO) ??? That's some nice helicopter parenting

130 You hear it from the DNC shills who regularly post here.  And don't think they don't come out in force on this blog.  They do.

Yep. I said this morning (or last night?) that there seems to be curious number of new morons at AOS these days.

131

I'll have the veal waiter.
Posted by: mpfs, back in my cubicle from hell

Hmmmm....I think that's a double entendre.

Yes, yes, I think it is.

132 So, I was there in the beginning in the fight over ObamaCare. Wrote letters, went to rallies, showed up in DC when the call went out that the bill was being debated and there needed to be a showing of opposition, donated to organizations fighting it... All for naught. The Powers That Be think Mr. Electability is a guy who, of all things, never flip-flopped on government run health care. And I'm the wing nut. I can go to MSNBC for that kind of abuse.

133 133

I'll have the veal waiter.
Posted by: mpfs, back in my cubicle from hell

Hmmmm....I think that's a double entendre.

Yes, yes, I think it is.

Posted by: Sean Bannion Desperately Grasping at Straws

LOL

134

I donÂ’t see the reason anti-Newt people are worrying.

According to the AoS guilt by association theory, because Newt admitted to liking some of Ron PaulÂ’s ideas about auditing the Fed and strengthening our currency, it is a sure thing that Newt will show up to tonightÂ’s debate in jackboots and festooned in swastikas.

Only Nazis could possibly be attracted to any of PaulÂ’s positions and if you like one, you must (by law) adopt everything heÂ’s every said or done.

135 mpfs, i actually don't have an answer for this. we are told we are horrid, uncaring about the children's sexual feelings  if we tell the  children NO sex before you are capable of dealing with the responsibilty. 

136 As I read this and listen to Rush, I keep remembering:

The Republican establishment gleefully rid themselves of Newt.
The Republican establishment is afraid Newt will win, which they fear will jeopardize House and Senate races.

The House & Senate currently have about 10% approval.

Is the establishment trying for 5%?

137

we are told we are horrid, uncaring about the children's sexual feelings  if we tell the  children NO sex before you are capable of dealing with the responsibilty. 

There's a word for that.

"Adult"

138 ABOP 2012!

Or, better yet, since people want ballsy candidates:
Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho 2012!

139 Posted by: jwest at January 23, 2012 01:22 PM (FdndL) It just so happens some of us happen to think the gold standard is an incorrigibly stupid idea only useful as an ACME disposable pandering device, and that this (once again) demonstrates Newt's willingness to adopt any damn fool idea he lays his eyes on. Or, there's the jackboot thing I guess.

140 If what Romney did in MA is "Masscare," does that make the Obamanation "Massacare"?

141 "Why would we want a candidate who is weak on national defense when we could have a candidate who is weak on absolutely everything economic? Oh, and I can't actually bring myself to thank all the twits who say that they'll never vote for Ron Paul, even in the general. I want to give you all a special go to hell from the depths of my soul. You're worse than a Democrat. At least the Democrat voter naively believes that another Obama term is in the country's best interest"

142 According to the AoS guilt by association theory, because Newt admitted to liking some of Ron PaulÂ’s ideas about auditing the Fed and strengthening our currency, it is a sure thing that Newt will show up to tonightÂ’s debate in jackboots and festooned in swastikas. Posted by: jwest

Any cite for that? Because it smells for all the world like a manufactured complaint.

Newt's negatives revolve entirely around his flirtation with more big government bullshit. AGW, slagging Ryan's plan, Dede Scozzaflava, support for a healthcare mandate, etc.

 

143 ???

That's some nice helicopter parenting

What? You didn't notice them because, if not, they will surely be disappointed as they are doing everything possible to be noticed.

144 As long as the nominee doesn't spell his/her name O.b.a.m.a., I'll vote for them. 

WhatÂ’s past is prologue.

145

Only Nazis could possibly be attracted to any of PaulÂ’s positions and if you like one, you must (by law) adopt everything heÂ’s every said or done.

Posted by: jwest at January 23, 2012 01:22 PM (FdndL)

 

I liked many of RP's domestic ideas.  BUT...when he starts talking about foreign policy, what he says makes me wonder if he was being ass-raped in the locker room when that class was taught.

146 He's passionate, so it doesn't have to make any sense. Rock on, Justin.

147 ???
That's some nice helicopter parenting
What? You didn't notice them because, if not, they will surely be disappointed as they are doing everything possible to be noticed.

Yikes! I was responding to your comment thinking it referred to a different of my comments.

Clear as mud?

Yep. It's sickening and an awful form of child abuse. I would advise the neighbors to keep an eye on their pets.

148 He wasn't just weak on immigration he fcking insulted the base as heartless. Dood, that's gonna piss people off. A lot. And it did. Kind of like fcking Pawlenty calling all of us who said, "um, climate change, aka weather, isn't man-made" as inferior stupids who disbelieve evolution. Um, I believe in evolution but am pretty darn sure that using my toaster isn't killing a polar bear, fcktard. That being said, Pawlenty didn't help his wimp status with wimping out so early and throwing in with Mittens. Alas, I repeat myself: ANYONE BUT OBAMA! STOP. THE. BLEEDING. WE ARE ON LIFE SUPPORT. STOP THE BLEEDING. I don't care if the Republican nominee is an ex-brothel worker that Harry Reid's mom cleaned up after. STOP. THE. FCKING. BLEEDING 2012

149 Sean, of course.

150 ""Oh, and I can't actually bring myself to thank all the twits who say that they'll never vote for Romney, even in the general. I want to give you all a special go to hell from the depths of my soul. You're worse than a Democrat. At least the Democrat voter naively believes that another Obama term is in the country's best interest. You know damn well what 4 more years of Obama mean and you'll let it happen our of petulance and pride. Yes, I'm sure we'll get the second coming of Reagan in 2016 to make up for it. That worked so well in 2008, didn't it? Idiots.""



1000 times this.

If I'm in an accident on election day, and I'm being helicoptered to a hospital, they better rig me up like they were air dropping a fucking howitzer, and parachute my ass into a voting booth. My job is to cancel out some other marxist cockholster's vote..period.

151

The Palinista's are funny. Newt surged ahead of Romney in SC when he lit King up to start the debate.

Of course, many Palin fans thought she was running for POTUS. How did that work out?

152 Yikes! I was responding to your comment thinking it referred to a different of my comments.

lol!

Yep. It's sickening and an awful form of child abuse. I would advise the neighbors to keep an eye on their pets.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 23, 2012 01:30 PM (piMMO)

Agreed. 

I wasted two minutes of my life wondering what the hell a combination of a girl's top and boy's pants looks like...

153 Now sure, you and he can say he's changed his mind... and he's not just telling me what I want to hear, but who am I more likely to believe on that score, the guy who's still on his starter wife, or the serial adulterer who finally found a wife who doesn't care about adultery on marriage number 3? I think it's cool that Newt has serially made honest women of his 'other women.'

154 Kind of like fcking Pawlenty calling all of us who said, "um, climate change, aka weather, isn't man-made" as inferior stupids who disbelieve evolution. Um, I believe in evolution but am pretty darn sure that using my toaster isn't killing a polar bear, fcktard.
Posted by: Nora, no longer heartless at January 23, 2012 01:34 PM (VxqUc)

Pawlenty said this?  That sounds like Huntsman to me.

155 If I'm in an accident on election day, and I'm being helicoptered to a hospital, they better rig me up like they were air dropping a fucking howitzer, and parachute my ass into a voting booth. My job is to cancel out some other marxist cockholster's vote..period.


I seriously LOL'd!

156

@132

Hey!  Who you callin' a moron?

Oh wait, that's a compliment....................right?

157

Fox is in full on attack&smear mode against Newt right now. ....Just like they were with Perry.

In all fairness to Perry, he didn't stand a chance against the pro-Romney media, which is on both the right and the left. .....A lot of us Perry supporters are pissed about that. Which is part of why Newt is winning, I think.

Romney can make gaffes, flip-flop on all the important issues, and the media gives him a pass. They think we are too stupid to notice what they are doing. .....Supporting Newt is a way of protesting against this.

158 Pawlenty said this? That sounds like Huntsman to me.

No, Hunstman said something like 'call me crazy, but I believe in global warming."

159 I think it's cool that Newt has serially made honest women of his 'other women.'

Of two of them, that you know of. There are more that we don't know the details of. And in the process of getting the first two of his marriages annulled, as per catholic doctrine, it means his kids from those marriages are now bastards.

Still cool?

160 So....who is Justin again?

161

T-paw. He needed more moola.

162 Still cool?

It's still funny. Desand that vagina.

163

Listen up, twerps, as a true and pure red meat conservative hero and as a charter member of the Dittohead nation I can tell you that winning the November general election simply isn't an option.

Not only does Obama need to get reelected -- so we can impeach him -- we need to lose angry.  I want blood.  I want red meat.  I want to project my own personal problems onto the country at large.

What Rush Limbaugh said.

Having Republicans in charge just means that we lose slower.  Plus my entire family hates Obama with a Passion of the Christ.  I want Obama bashed.  I want him roasted over the coals.  Red meat, dammit.  If y'all weren't such fornicating, vaccine smoking pansies you'd understand.  We need to get down in the slop and get dirty, filthy enraged.  I'll not rest until Obama is torn to pieces and we become a party of none.

Palin-Angle-O'Donnell, '16. 

164 Posted by: Berserker at January 23, 2012 01:37 PM (FMbng)

rofl

165 Romney can make gaffes, flip-flop on all the important issues, and the media gives him a pass. They think we are too stupid to notice what they are doing. .....Supporting Newt is a way of protesting against this. Except for RomneyCare. The one he has never flip-flopped on. If ObamaCare started the Tea Party, what were the past 4 years for? ObamaCare got me off the couch & I worked hard to kill that bill. Now, I'm being insulted because I just won't roll over & show my belly on the one cadidate that gave the country ObamaCare prototype? It's a bridge too far. Sigh. How did this go so wrong?

166 Justin can take that last paragraph and blow it right out of his ass. What sold me on Gingrich who, as you rightly said in the previous post, Ace, is a walking disaster area, was all the videos posted on Hot Air. He actually knows what the freakin' Federalist Papers are. He can actually quote from the Constitution and elaborate upon it. He articulated the only halfway decent response to scumbag traitor hate-America hafwit Ron Paul that I have yet heard live on T.V. And his take-down of the MSM drone about his personal life is the only time I know of that any politician has had the nerve or wit to expose the role of the MSM as the self-appointed arbiters of power in America. For all of his faults, Newt "speaks American" better than any candidate left in the race, and maybe better than any other in the race to date. He has my vote.

167 #8  Could I add my Compulsive Cleaning Club on as an adjunct to Team Meteor?  My crew will be happy to clean up the kitchen after you make the cupcakes with sprinkles!

168

If Mitt can't beat Newt Frigging' Gingrich; a guy who hasn't been relevant nationally in 15 years,is old, fat and named NEWT,  in a primary I don't give him much chance in the General Election.

I'm sorry, but this just isn't true. The things a candidate needs to win the votes of the base in the primary and the things he needs to win the votes of the entire country in the general are not necessarily the same. If they were, we'd have Presidents Howard Dean and Alan Keyes.

Newt may be a killer primary vote-getter, but his incredibly high poll negatives mean he'll die an ugly death in the general. Romney may have little appeal to the base, but this election is about giving the people a palatable alternative to Obama, and Romney is palatable. He's the ham sandwich the voters want this go-around. With him, the less-committed dems stay home. With Newt, all of a sudden, those disinterested left-leaners decide to vote. Why? Because they hate Newt.

169 If Mitt can't beat Newt Frigging' Gingrich; a guy who hasn't been relevant nationally in 15 years,is old, fat and named NEWT,  in a primary I don't give him much chance in the General Election.

I'm so sick of the anti-Newt slant AceHQ is taking. What the hell kind of argument is that?! Our current president's name is Barrack Hussein Obama...

170 The featured diatribe is why I no longer consider myself a Republican.

Party of whiny assholes.

You can have my vote when you stop giving me shitty candidates. Until then, stop trying to fix a leak with a cheese grater (If you don't have the Right tool, all you have is a mess, and a tool).

171 Newt may be a killer primary vote-getter, but his incredibly high poll negatives mean he'll die an ugly death in the general. Romney may have little appeal to the base, but this election is about giving the people a palatable alternative to Obama, and Romney is palatable. He's the ham sandwich the voters want this go-around. With him, the less-committed dems stay home. With Newt, all of a sudden, those disinterested left-leaners decide to vote. Why? Because they hate Newt.

This is the logical conclusion of Chris Buckley, Meggie Mac, et als' "GOP must become moderate to stay alive" idea. I'm a conservative, and I don't want a ham sandwich.

172 Oh...and Justin's a douche.

For featuring his whiny BS, Ace is a douche receptacle.

That is all.

173

Permit me to invoke Michigan Wolverine football, back from 3 years of purgatorial suffering to win a BCS bowl this season

The new coach is Brady Hoke, a guy I frankly did not want and am glad to have been so very, very wrong about. Hoke preaches "controlled aggression" as the path to victory in football. You have to hit hard, play hard on every down and stay determined--it's a tough man's game. But you always, always keep thinking and keep your head while doing so. It's a fine line, and easy to fall off either side.

The GOP's problem is that they have two frontrunners who each have half the formula, but no clue how to get the other half. With respect to campaigning against Obama, Romney is all control without aggression, and Gingrich is all aggression without control. Neither is going to win without acquiring the other half of the puzzle.

174

170.....and Romney is palatable. He's the ham sandwich the voters want this go-around. With him, the less-committed dems stay home. With Newt, all of a sudden, those disinterested left-leaners decide to vote. Why? Because they hate Newt. 

You are forgetting something. .....The OWS protesters in the streets are not out there protesting about guys like Newt. They are protesting and chanting about guys like Romney.

This will get worse in the general. ....The JEF and the Dims have been preparing to run against Romney for the last 3 years. ....They are holding back right now.....but if Romney is the nominee, they will unleash hell.....and Romney will be portrayed as the "evil millionaire Mormon cultist who will destroy your jobs and ship them overseas, while his Mormon cohorts want to use government resources to spy on your families for their lineage-keeping research".

175 And Romney isn't "palatable". None of these candidates are. The problem is that Mitt, aside from sucking in every other conceivable way, screams "will say anything to get elected" politician, and everyone picks up on that. I'd rather go down swinging with Newt in a blaze of glory than go down mumbling with Mitt - per the Brietbart interview posted this morning.

176 2012 - I'm Mumbling With Mittens!

177

And in the process of getting the first two of his marriages annulled, as per catholic doctrine, it means his kids from those marriages are now bastards.

Not true. Frequently asserted, but no more true for that. A declaration of nullity says nothing about the legal status of the marriage, just its sacramental validity. Legitimacy is not implicated by a declaration of nullity. In fact, in 19th Century Italy, people had church marriages but their children were deemed illegitimate by the Italian kingdom for failing to follow Italian law.

178 Seriously! Mitt will be impossible to defend in the general election.

179 "I don't care if the Republican nominee is an ex-brothel worker that Harry Reid's mom cleaned up after. STOP. THE. FCKING. BLEEDING 2012"

This is one of the many problems with people like you. You think Obama going away = problems ending.

Yeah...good luck with that.

180 Related article:

http://tiny.cc/o33qj

181 >>>Being the Democratic nominee for president Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse He can't. The poor little Princess Boy is a brit. I go with kill his parents and I hope he gets off. He should also take out the local DCS for failing to stop his parents from treating him like a lab rat.

182

I'm a conservative, and I don't want a ham sandwich.

Nor do I, but when given a choice between a ham sandwich and a shit sandwich, I'll take the ham. With the Supreme Court picks coming up, nevermind 4 more years of God-knows-what from Obama, there's just too much at stake and I sincerely believe Gingrich won't play in the general.

183 >>>Oh...and Justin's a douche.

>>>For featuring his whiny BS, Ace is a douche receptacle.

>>>That is all.

So you're not a Republican, you think Ace is a pussy, and you want Obama to win reelection...tell me again why you continue to post here?

No, really: you just want to have an audience to masturbate in front of, right?  Thanks but no thanks.

184 Related article: http://tiny.cc/o33qj

I'd like to vote for the Penguin, but Newt is the closest anthropomorphized creature I can get in this election cycle.

185

You forgot your //sarc tag.

just sayin.

 

186 >>>This is one of the many problems with people like you. You think Obama going away = problems ending.

No, I don't think anyone believes that.  But I do think we believe that "Obama going away" = "fewer problems than before."  Like, say, Supreme Court appointments.  Or the chance to undo Obamacare.  Or any number of things. 

Even if it's merely a potentiality, only a fool would spurn a potentially good outcome for a guaranteed apocalypse.

187

Maybe if all you Beta Male Dickless Wonders had managed to come up with a ball between you to defend a conservative who was being accused of inciting mass murder, including that of a nine year old girl, Sarah Palin might have run.

OMG what am I thinking?!!!  And have you all lose out on the brilliant, articulate, intellect that is Rick Perry? 

I'll say one thing for Rick Perry.  He may have trouble spitting out a coherant sentence but at least he as a full set of working balls.

188 Nor do I, but when given a choice between a ham sandwich and a shit sandwich, I'll take the ham. With the Supreme Court picks coming up, nevermind 4 more years of God-knows-what from Obama, there's just too much at stake and I sincerely believe Gingrich won't play in the general.

News for you: Romney won't play in the general. The 'electability' issue is appeasement lite, and it never works. It's also illogical: Everyone who defends Romney cites his superior electability. He lost to the guy who lost to Obama. That's electability?

189 Nor do I, but when given a choice between a ham sandwich and a shit sandwich, I'll take the ham. With the Supreme Court picks coming up, nevermind 4 more years of God-knows-what from Obama, there's just too much at stake and I sincerely believe Gingrich won't play in the general.

What's so electable about this guy? He loses to everyone. The tea party hates him. OWS hates him. The left got everything they needed to paint him a crony capitalist already.

190 Does Justin have a link, or did he mail this in on a piece of paper?

191

He lost to the guy who lost to Obama. That's electability?

Reagan lost to the guy who lost to Carter. That's electability?

192 Reagan lost to the guy who lost to Carter. That's electability?

Other than gender, that would be the only parallel one could draw between Reagan and Romney. It's a weak reason to draw your celebratory pistols.

193 Chocolate Wonderfall. Maybe I'll go drown myself in that after the convention.

194 Sorry but Romney is WAAAY more electible than Newty.

195 Reagan lost to the guy who lost to Carter. That's electability?

Did you really just compare Reagan to MITT!?

196 Seems like 6 months ago, electability was all the rage.  Now look where it has taken you.

197 Haven't heard a single point to back up this "Mitt = electable" claim. Just a bunch of analogies about sandwiches and half-assed comparisons to previous election cycles.

198

Did you really just compare Reagan to MITT!?

The poster made an argument: a primary candidate who loses to an opponent who then goes on to lose in the general has no electabilty. I provided an example that shows otherwise. But you already knew my intent.

199 It seem the people supporting Mitt have even worse political instincts than the man himself.

Truth.

200 "Oh, and I can't actually bring myself to thank all the twits who say that they'll never vote for Romney, even in the general. I want to give you all a special go to hell from the depths of my soul."

Romney fans who said they would campaign against Perry (because they take it personally) or Perry fans who can't support whoever the GOP nominates: you are deeply misguided.

Do you guys remember when Ann Coulter explained that we were going to nominate Romney and he was going to lose to Obama?

His electability is a trick meant to push people to supporting someone who can't win votes any other way.

We must unify in November.  But right now, support the candidate you like the most.  Newt can win.  Ann Coulter and Jen Rubin might be right that Romney can't win.  They might not be totally sincere now when they act like they never said that.

201 The poster made an argument: a primary candidate who loses to an opponent who then goes on to lose in the general has no electabilty. I provided an example that shows otherwise. But you already knew my intent.

Again, the problem here is electability. Define it for the Romney doubters. What makes Romney electable? Evidently, winning actual elections is not part of your calculus. If it was, we'd have Perry. I ask, what makes you guys so sure that Romney is the best candidate?

202 The poster made an argument: a primary candidate who loses to an opponent who then goes on to lose in the general has no electabilty. I provided an example that shows otherwise. But you already knew my intent.

And in doing so, disproved any causality. Your electability argument still lacks any supporting evidence.

203 And in doing so, disproved any causality. Your electability argument still lacks any supporting evidence.

Especially since he hasn't won much.

204

Posted by: November 5, 2008 at January 23, 2012 12:57 PM (sqkOB)

the key there was four years of a prime contender for "worst President in history" up until that time. not eight. not relaxing yet.

205 Weird incoherent rant there . . .

RE: "Oh, and I can't actually bring myself to thank all the twits who say that they'll never vote for Romney, even in the general. I want to give you all a special go to hell from the depths of my soul."

Why thankee kindly sir -- I'm one of those and I don't give a hoot about your feelings, other than to smile a bit.

RE: "You know damn well what 4 more years of Obama mean . . . "

Yup -- and I know damn well what four more years of a fake-non-conservative Republican like Romney will mean too.  It will mean THE END of the Republican Party as he tacks sharply back to his accustomed place among the left, and yet continues to claim the Republican mantle.  We haven't yet come close to recovering from the likes of GWB's last year and the massive damage he inflicted on the Republican brand and Romney's 10 times worse.  So if this ranting guy fancies that folks will stick with the Republican Party *after* the hideous 4 years of Romney, he can think again.

RE: " . . . and you'll let it happen our of petulance and pride."

Nope.  It's the establishment Republicans who'll let it happen because they insist on nomination a blatantly non-conservative candidate.  If that's what they choose, so be it.

Nobody will be able to say we didn't warn you.  We did.

206 ROMNEY YEAH BANG BANG ROMNEY WOOOOOO BANG BANG BANG YEEEEEHA ROMNEY

207

198 Sorry but Romney is WAAAY more electible than Newty.

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2012 02:36 PM

I think you should take a much closer look at how attacks on his career at Bain were used to destroy Romney when he ran for Senate in 1994.

Romney has had 18 years to prepare a better defense against these attacks, but it sure doesn't look like he has done so.

208 I love this whining and crying about "true conservatives". 

It's not like there wasn't plenty of room for any candidate to take a lead.  The "true conservative" thing is bullshit and just a way of saying you are somehow better than everyone else.

Hey Ace - if you hadn't gotten on the Perry train and instead backed Romney from the start, perhaps so many people wouldn't dislike Romney right now?

Go back through your posts you freakin hypocrite and see what you had to say about Romney when you had a different horse in the race. 

All you people and your whining can go to hell.  The candidate who gets the most votes wins - not the candidate that your ego is tied to as "our only hope for salvation". 

It's assholes like you telling me I'm stupid for not doing what you want that make me laugh.  Forget persuasion.  Forget conservative ideas.  Forget it all.  Just line up and get on team Romney or your an ignorant asshole. 

What a bunch of crying morons.  Yeah.  It's Sara Palins fault that the candidates all suck.  Sure.  blame her b/c she's your big bad boogeyman.  It's "true conservatives" fault that Pawlenty was a lousy candidate who gained no traction (and I would love him right now over these other clowns).  Why don't you blame Trump?

This is getting to be idiotic.  Grow up.  do you really think a President Romney will make this country much different than Obama?  Do you really think Mitt is going to tackle any tough issues like entitlement reform or anything else?  I'm not saying that Newt would either.  I'm saying that the U.S. is going to luck largely the same (going bankrupt, overspending, overtaxing, over-regulating) in 4 years regardless of who is elected.  A truly transformative leader who changes things only comes around once in a lifetime - if that.  And Romney ain't it.  Neither is Gingrich.

And, by the way, I doubt very much that Romney could beat Obama.  If he can't sell himself to the GOP is he really such a great damn candidate - which is the basis of all your angst, that Romney is a great candidate and somehow we are missing it.  Silly.

209

I ask, what makes you guys so sure that Romney is the best candidate?

The best candidate is not running. As to why I think Romney is the better general candidate at this point: 

1. His polled public favorable/unfavorable split is positive while Newt's is atrocious and likely insurmountable. It's easier to defend a good reputation than rehabilitate a bad one.

2. Romney has had a long-standing organization in place, while Newt had his entire senior staff bolt over his behavior just months ago. In a large, national campaign, logistics, organization and staff loyalty matter.

3. Newt has baggage from his time as speaker -ethics violations, erratic behavior, etc. Romney will have to contend with the 'evil Bain capitalist' slings. Romney can argue that he knows how to make money and wants to put everyone back to work so they can make money, too, appealing to the voters' self-interest. What does Newt argue? My Republican House colleagues called me unstable and reprimanded me bcse they're part of the vast left-wing conspiracy?

4. Personality. Mitt is bland, but generally steady. Newt is interesting, but erratic. Given his history, the odds of Newt imploding are much higher.

5. The personal. Romney's personal life is fine. Nice guy, nice wife, nice kids. Gingrich? His wife? Enough said.

6. The press. It's a given that they'll go after our candidate with daggers, but they find Romney less offensive ideologically than Newt, so I believe their attacks on him will be less vociferous than they'll be on Newt.

7. The public hates DC insiders and Newt has been one his whole life. The left is beating the drum against Wall Street and Mitt can be tagged Wall Street. I believe the public hates the Politician just a bit more than they hate the Businessman.

There's more, but those are the bigger reasons why I think Mitt sucks less than Newt.

210 Reagan lost to the guy who lost to Carter. That's electability?

Did you really just compare Reagan to MITT!?

Is Reagan the only example of someone losing a primary the first go around then winning the next time and then winning the presidency?

B/c, if so, I would point out that it is quite a bit different.  Reagan was taking on an incumbent president in his first primary.  Yes, it was an incumbent who was not elected (Ford), but an incumbent nevertheless.  That is hugely different than an open primary.

I think the other examples are legion.  Kerry, Gore, McCain, Dole.  Each lost his first primary and lost their eventual bid when they were the party's nominee. 

But, on the flip side is Nixon, who lost the presidency, then lost a race for Gov of Cal, then won the presidency.  So, I'm not sure it means anything.  It depends on circumstance and events.  Someone may not be the electorate's choice today, but is tomorrow..

For instance, I would have gladly supported Romney in 2008 instead of McCain.  Now I don't want Romney as the nominee.

211

I guess we should all be so proud that we are getting legalized prositution in the Whitehouse and free love for all.

My eyes have certainly been opened.

The Republican Party is nothing more than a LIE!!!!

Newt Gingrich is the very most corrupt career politican who has sold us all out numerous times for money!!!!

I have left this sink hole of a septic tank party.

HYPOCRITES!!!!

Conservatism now means prostitution and free love.

Yes great Primary.  The Whitehouse would be a Whorehouse!

America is dead.

I cannot believe we could nominate someone who would make Obama look good and sane and like a good Christian American.

But that is what has happened.

Obama is a better choice than that Whore Newt Gingrich!

212

Posted by: Sgt. York at January 23, 2012 02:05 PM (7Qqrk)

Reagan II 2016! Good luck with that.

213 Here is a palette cleanser for you, David Frum has a moment of clarity and attacks Andrew Sullivan and Barack Obama...

214

I am thankful for all the entitled assholes who think they have an absolute right to a perfect candidate, but they never put themselves on the line for one damn thing.

Sarah owes it to 'em, Rick owes it to 'em, Tim owes it to 'em, Chris owes it to 'em, Marco owes it to 'em, Paul owes it to 'em -- Hell, everybody owes them -- but somehow they are never required to run for one goddamn thing themselves.

Yup.  I am thankful for them cuz their absolute ability to bitch at high volumes is doing such a great job of improving the situation.

215 Wow. I can't really believe that got put on the front page. It's just a bitter rant of a guy who realized he's going to have to choose between Romney and Gingrich after getting to choose between Romney and McCain the last go around. I'm guessing Ace is feeling the same way, huh? Just to be clear, I'm not trying to attack Gingrich supporters. I'd only weakly toss in a vote for Romney because I think his chances in the general are bad instead of terrible.

You know, I'd like actual quotes from anyone saying that they'd have a better shot in 2016 and that's why they aren't running.  Because otherwise?  Yeah, that's a nasty, nasty slur.  And I say this as someone who has bellowed WHY HAST THOU BETRAYED ME to Ryan and Jindal.

That's not the kind of thing someone actually says publicly. Not all of the good potential candidates are sitting out this year for a better shot later, but some of them certainly are. That's why I didn't single anyone out. Once you lose in the general presidential election you're done, and even a weak incumbent is hard to beat.

Justin sounds like the kind of guy who looks past the deep voice and man hands, ignores the adam's apple and thenmakes the best of a bad situation once he's all alone with the tranny he brought home shortly after last call.

When the only other option is Barack Obama, hell yeah. I'll even play catcher. This is pretty much my feelings on the race right now. I've got the choice between two trannies and Barack Freaking Obama.

The other side is convinced that the 'lose more slowly' plan of the last 20+ years has damaged conservatism to the point that the American public has little idea why conservatism was and is the best philosophical path for our Republic. Running RINO's and having to deal with their inevitable mistakes vis a vis the economy and the size of government has left a deep gash in the hull, so deep that the party and the country are sinking together.  So the hardcore decides to scuttle the ship in the belief that the survivors will find another, better ship just on the horizon. I hope your kids can swim because the hardcore didn't want to sit on that boat another second.

Look, I actually think this is a valid argument. I got people not voting for McCain in 2008.

But this goes out the window when the Supreme Court is in play. If Obama wins we're looking at a Supreme Court filled with relatively young, hard left justices. Justices don't even pretend to justify their actions.The country is going to keep moving left no matter what a conservative congress or president does, because the country has basically made the judicial branch the God-King of the branches of government.

There are people who would rather lose every single Supreme Court case for the next 20 years than vote for Romney. I just don't get that.

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Upthread there was a comment that new posters could be DNC shills. My handle may seem new, but not really, my work has blocked access for quite some time, but today I happened to check in and voilà here's the good old comment field. I had wondered what was transpiring during the aptly named Satan's Asshole primary, when I could read the lead articles but was denied access to the commentariat...

I had assumed a pitched battle between the different factions would be taking place, but what I see today is just passionate advocacy for one's chosen candidate.

Anyway, to follow up on Tired Wench's post, I don't think we'd see a President Romney unleashing his DOJ to sue states for the simple act of protecting their own borders; or shutting down Gibson guitar on some ridiculous bureaucratic pretext, (thereby denying Americans jobs); or forcing Boeing or any other company to hire union workers. So I don't know what the big fear about Romney is. However he does need to find his voice and make a better case for himself. For instance, he could remind voters that teachers' pensions funds, among other Main Street concerns, were invested in Bain Capital.

217 6. The press. It's a given that they'll go after our candidate with daggers, but they find Romney less offensive ideologically than Newt, so I believe their attacks on him will be less vociferous than they'll be on Newt. Posted by: TiredWench at January 23, 2012 03:31 PM (oPceJ) Agree with most of what you said, but come on, really? That is certainly wrong. Day 1 of nomination(if he wins), he will instantly become the anti-christ. McCain much?

218 So I don't know what the big fear about Romney is.

My fear is that he's a sackless weasel who won't go after Obama once he gets the nomination.

If he's got any fight in him, I'd like to see it.

219 I want to give you all a special go to hell from the depths of my soul. You're worse than a Democrat.

Oh, get off the cross.

You could have used the same argument in favor of George H. W. Bush, who derailed the Reagan revolution and put us back on the FDR track, but it would have been better in the long term if Mondale had won.

I haven't made up my mind whether or not I'll vote for Romney.  I'm still deciding.   Regardless of what I decide, you, Justin, ought to grow the hell up.

220 Well, my comment would have worked a lot better if the formatting hadn't disappeared.  Sigh...

221 I hope you never stop!  This is one of the best blogs Ive ever read.  Youve got some mad skill here, man.  I just hope that you dont lose your style because youre definitely one of the coolest bloggers out there.  Please keep it up because the internet needs someone like you spreading the word.