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October 22, 2012

Overnight Open Thread (10-22-2012) - Clique Members Only Edition
— Maetenloch

The Cuban Missile Crisis - 50 Years Later

Here Steven Hayward of Powerline reviews the episode and declares it a defeat of the US rather than the triumph it was made out to be:

To be sure, as Churchill once put it, "talk-talk is better than war-war," but the conventional "lesson" of the Cuban Missile Crisis could not be more incorrect. The view that that U.S. "won" the Cuban Missile Crisis has more lives than a cat. In fact, the Cuban episode was an American defeat, and it contributed powerfully to the thinking that led to the Vietnam quagmire.

...In fact Khrushchev had calculated correctly that he could bluff the U.S. into giving a non-intervention guarantee for Cuba and a trade of Soviet missiles in Cuba for NATO missiles in Turkey. Kennedy and his grandmasters thought they had "won" because they had avoided war, even though the Soviets were never prepared to engage in warfare at the time. The Crisis ended with Cuba being secured not only as an intact political asset to the Soviet Union, but also potentially as a military asset for the future. Some "victory."

I'm not sure I would go quite as far as Hayward since in the end the Russians were forced to back down militarily (at some strategic cost to us) and nuclear war was avoided - but it did teach the Kennedy administration all the wrong lessons which they then went on to apply all throughout the rest of the decade.

But the best and brightest of the Kennedy-Johnson administration were so self-deluded with their Â“successÂ” that they decided to apply the same strategy of Â“flexible responseÂ” in Vietnam. Cyrus Vance, who was a deputy secretary of defense at the Pentagon in 1962 and who later served as Jimmy CarterÂ’s Secretary of State, confirmed this view: Â“We had seen the gradual application of force applied in the Cuban Missile Crisis and had seen a very successful result. We believed that, if this same gradual and restrained application of force were applied in South Vietnam, that one could expect the same result.Â”

And if you want to know when the world truly came the closest to a full-scale nuclear war, check out Able Archer in 1983.

Able Archer 83 was a ten-day NATO command post exercise starting on November 2, 1983 that spanned Western Europe, centered on the Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe (SHAPE) Headquarters situated at Casteau, north of the Belgian city of Mons. Able Archer exercises simulated a period of conflict escalation, culminating in a coordinated nuclear release.
The 1983 exercise incorporated a new, unique format of coded communication, radio silences, participation by heads of government, and a simulated DEFCON 1 nuclear alert.

The realistic nature of the 1983 exercise, coupled with deteriorating relations between the United States and the Soviet Union and the anticipated arrival of strategic Pershing II nuclear missiles in Europe, led some members of the Soviet Politburo and Soviet military to believe that Able Archer 83 was a ruse of war, obscuring preparations for a genuine nuclear first strike.
In response, the Soviets readied their nuclear forces and placed air units in East Germany and Poland on alert.

The Soviet top leadership had never been to America and only knew Reagan as the war-mongering caricature that the US media portrayed. A missile early warning false alarm and the KAL 007 incident in September only increased Soviet paranoia and by November Andropov and the Politburo were absolutely convinced that the US was planning a first strike and Able Archer would be the cover for it.

It was only later that Reagan found out how close the USSR had come to war over the exercises and he later wrote this:

"Three years had taught me something surprising about the Russians: Many people at the top of the Soviet hierarchy were genuinely afraid of America and Americans. Perhaps this shouldn't have surprised me, but it did ... During my first years in Washington, I think many of us in the administration took it for granted that the Russians, like ourselves, considered it unthinkable that the United States would launch a first strike against them. But the more experience I had with Soviet leaders and other heads of state who knew them, the more I began to realize that many Soviet officials feared us not only as adversaries but as potential aggressors who might hurl nuclear weapons at them in a first strike

... Well, if that was the case, I was even more anxious to get a top Soviet leader in a room alone and try to convince him we had no designs on the Soviet Union and Russians had nothing to fear from us."

Meet the EU-SSR

Poster seen in the halls of the EU European Commission. The ideology behind the hammer and sickle impoverished and outright killed more people in the 20th century than Nazism did - yet the swastika is banned in most European countries while the symbol of communism is celebrated in the halls of the EU.

Got $10?

Then you could be a rancher/homesteader in Manitoba, Canada:

Got an extra ten bucks? If so, you, too, could be the owner of a sparkling new home in Reston, Manitoba, a rural prairie town in Southern Manitoba bordering Saskatchewan on the west and North Dakota on the south.
In an effort to jump on the oil boom in that part of the country, officials are once again selling undeveloped land for a mere $10, an initiative they first started in 2010.
Back then they had 14 lots for sale, 11 of which have houses built on them today, economic development officer Tanis Chalmers told ABC News

The Law of Drama

Why Atheists Can't Have Nice Things

Because they insist on doing dickish things like this:

Richard Dawkins and Sean Faircloth are recruiting college students to photograph the homes of ministers as the two well-known atheist work to make a documentary they say they hope leads to the abolishment of tax exemptions for religious leaders in America.

Faircloth, author of "Attack of the Theocrats: How the Religious Right Harms Us All & What We Can Do About It," encouraged hundreds of University of Colorado - Boulder students who attended his talk last week to photograph the homes of ministers and send them to him.

Meet the Railroad Samurai

When he sees injustice on the Phoenix light rail, he acts:

A vigilante drew what appears to be a samurai sword to break up a brawl on a Phoenix light rail car. The martial arts weapon, long-associated with feudal Japan, does not appear often on American public transportation.
The man, wearing a baseball cap and headphones, did not need to execute a single martial arts move to scare away the fighters. He simply unsheathed the katana and inched slowly toward them.

"Let me see it! Let me see it!" said the man who had been losing the fight, but the wannabe samurai held up his fist to signal that he was in control of the situation.
The two young men who had the upper hand during the fight fled from the car, as the man who was punched and kicked repeated cursed at them from the doorway.

I'm thinking you could create a whole modern day Kung Fu-like TV series based on this incident alone.

Russian Mail Order Brides Part VII

Sure there's a chance they'll break your heart, empty your bank account, and betray your country - but it's only like 74% - maybe 80% tops - and that's better than most of what you get in Vegas.

The Yahoo AoSHQ group. Bla bla bla.

And my twitter thang.

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Posted by: Maetenloch at 06:20 PM | Comments (1120)
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1 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 22, 2012 06:21 PM (6o4Fb)

2 I just want to remind you people, it's all about me.

Posted by: back door barry soetoro at October 22, 2012 06:23 PM (yBF/9)

3 Ooooo, time to make a day trip to Reston! Oil $$$$!

Posted by: logprof at October 22, 2012 06:25 PM (jKE+Z)

4 Third!

Posted by: akornzombie at October 22, 2012 06:25 PM (RTRO5)

5 Dammit!

Posted by: akornzombie at October 22, 2012 06:26 PM (RTRO5)

Yay. ONT and the bar is unattended.

Posted by: otho at October 22, 2012 06:26 PM (yBF/9)

bugger.

Posted by: otho at October 22, 2012 06:27 PM (yBF/9)

8 I called my son a Democrat tonight. He was wearing two "I voted early" Stickers

Posted by: Picric at October 22, 2012 06:27 PM (N9Yhf)

9 Has anyone ever done a study on the chances on whether a mail order bride will raid your account and break your heart based on ethnicity? Maybe if I just picked the right country I'll get lucky.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 06:28 PM (+AV7H)

10 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 22, 2012 06:29 PM (nUH8H)

11 First girl in the foreign babe link:

I'd hit that like Russia invading Georgia.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 06:30 PM (+AV7H)

12 my wife laughed hardest

Posted by: Picric at October 22, 2012 06:30 PM (N9Yhf)

13 Didn't watch the debate (okay, a couple of minutes, but after reading through the Benghazi docs as I have been since Friday, I was about to throw something heavy at my TV, so I decided my bank account (and marital bliss) would prefer that I turn off my TV). How'd it go?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 22, 2012 06:30 PM (nUH8H)

14 Thank god the debate is almost over

Posted by: MrCaniac at October 22, 2012 06:32 PM (Zd/NW)

15 Everyone is on the other thread. PANTS OFF.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 06:32 PM (sZTYJ)

16 Thanks for the linky love, Maet. Suffering through a debate aneurysm right now.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 22, 2012 06:32 PM (mdk6h)

17 Thank god the debate is almost over It's still going? Oh geez.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 22, 2012 06:33 PM (nUH8H)

18 Second girl in the foreign babe link:

I'd wreck it like Herbie at a demolition derby.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 06:33 PM (+AV7H)

19 Allen the debate went as I expected. Romney was good, Obama was robotic and Schieffer kept O from screwing up too bad.

Posted by: Picric at October 22, 2012 06:34 PM (N9Yhf)

Wow, San Francisco is up 7 - 0?

How gay.

Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2012 06:35 PM (SvOXF)

21 Romney was good, Obama was robotic and Schieffer kept O from screwing up too bad. Fair enough. Yeah... I heard like 2 of el JEFe's talking points and about had a conniption. At that point, I turned off the TV.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 22, 2012 06:36 PM (nUH8H)

22 Any country who's main exports are vodka, guns and strippers can't be all bad.... 'sup jackwagons

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 22, 2012 06:36 PM (Rhie+)

23 Third girl in the foreign babe link:

I'd spank it like Dennis the Menace after he stole Mister Wilson's cookies.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 06:36 PM (+AV7H)

24 Militant atheists are disgusting.

Posted by: Adam at October 22, 2012 06:36 PM (/YJYi)

25 Until tonight, I've never seen such a disconnect between a president's words and deeds.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 22, 2012 06:36 PM (fKrgS)

26 No cavalry and no navy. The two are not comparable.

Posted by: huerfano at October 22, 2012 06:36 PM (bAGA/)

27 Holy crap, now TSN is showing re-runs of Caddyshack? Damn, this NHL lockout is painful. . . .

Posted by: logprof at October 22, 2012 06:36 PM (jKE+Z)

28 Romney is too nice. I hope his strategy of not pointing out the SCOAMTT's many failures in order to lure voters works out. Cuz it's hell to watch.

Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 22, 2012 06:37 PM (Sptt8)

29 Debate's done. Should be more traffic here until ace gets the post mortem thread up.

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2012 06:37 PM (hO9ad)

30 Chris Matthews thinks they talked about Israel too much

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 06:37 PM (8sCoq)

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 22, 2012 10:30 PM

Romney has been playing with a straight bat. Has had a few singles, but he doesn't seem inclined to go for much in the way of big shots. Concentrating on not getting out. Can't say who's going to come out on top. The Indonesian Imbecile is appealing on anything that goes near Romney's pads.

Posted by: otho at October 22, 2012 06:38 PM (yBF/9)

32 Chrissy "Tingles" is furious. Romney must have killed it in the libs eyes

Posted by: Ball of Hate at October 22, 2012 06:39 PM (AREf/)

33 That third russian bride has a huge pussy.

Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2012 06:40 PM (SvOXF)

I thought the Churchill quote was "jaw, jaw is better than war, war," but I could be wrong.

Evening 'rons and 'ettes!

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 06:40 PM (1zwZo)

35 32 Chrissy "Tingles" is furious. Romney must have killed it in the libs eyes

Posted by: Ball of Hate at October 22, 2012 10:39 PM

Well, that's always a good sign.

Posted by: otho at October 22, 2012 06:40 PM (yBF/9)

36 ...pretty sure the 5th one is a man, baby!

Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2012 06:40 PM (SvOXF)

37 21 Yeah... I heard like 2 of el JEFe's talking points and about had a conniption. At that point, I turned off the TV. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 22, 2012 10:36 PM (nUH8H) Wife was stunned, but I refused to watch. Blood pressure just couldn't take it. Oh, btw, part of the cool kids in crowd bit chez!!!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 06:41 PM (GEICT)

38 Trippi just stopped himself from saying the word dumb in describing Mitt not taking opportunity to go after the SCOAMTT on Benghazi when it came up.

Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 22, 2012 06:41 PM (Sptt8)

39 Chris Matthews thinks they talked about Israel too much Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 10:37 PM (8sCoq) ??? They hardly memtioned Israel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2012 06:41 PM (j1gX1)

40 Nobody cares about the Joooossss!!! At least no one I talk to does.

Posted by: Prissy Crissy at October 22, 2012 06:41 PM (/YJYi)

41 Can't believe Benghazi didn't dominate the debate tonight, that has me fuck as all pissed off.

I think it was a draw on points but Romney seemed to get ahead at the end.

But overall, I think Obama's pissy demeanor sunk him badly here. What a flaming asshole.

I think people jhust assume Obama is a nice guy because of the media's firewall of him, but tonight lots of viewers got to see him as the flaming fuckhole that he truly is.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 06:41 PM (+AV7H)

42 So I hear that Obama just lost the Navy vote...

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 22, 2012 06:41 PM (4PULS)

43 Howdy, howdy!

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 06:41 PM (kaalw)

44 Together we much!

Posted by: Reverend Al Sharpton at October 22, 2012 06:42 PM (SvOXF)

45 I'd rate the debate outcome as draw. Romney got a few zingers, and made some good hits. Obama was a smarmy git and lied like there was no tomorrow... unfortunatly Mitt did not the opportunity to smack them all down, so for unifmormed voters, that'll probably be a net plus for Obama. What Mitt lacked was a unifying visions. His answers came across as almost scattershot. Mitt needed to articulate a unifying vision, but didn't.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 06:42 PM (sZTYJ)

46 Militant atheists are disgusting.

Most Christians, I find, define "militant atheists" as "atheists who stand up for what they don't believe".

Do you, likewise, call evangelical Christians "militant" and "disgusting"?

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 22, 2012 06:42 PM (QTHTd)

47 Only saw five minutes. Well, was it everything your black hearts hoped for?

Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 22, 2012 06:42 PM (AZGON)

48 >Chris Matthews thinks they talked about Israel too much
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 10:37 PM (8sCoq)
???

They hardly memtioned Israel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2012 10:41 PM (j1gX1)

which was too much for Krissy

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 06:42 PM (8sCoq)

49 I think PE Romney took Michael's Advice tonight: Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2012 06:43 PM (j1gX1)

50 God, I'm glad that's over. I'm disappointed that Romney didn't come out stronger, not sure what the plan was there. Two more weeks.

Posted by: spypeach at October 22, 2012 06:43 PM (pwTow)

51 Brit is saying what I was thinking now. Obama looking like his skin was merely a thin membrane for homicidal rage. It was damned creepy to watch.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 06:43 PM (+AV7H)

52 >Only saw five minutes. Well, was it everything your black hearts hoped for?

Mitt did very well- therefore, Obama is the winner

Posted by: MSNBC at October 22, 2012 06:44 PM (8sCoq)

53 Most Christians, I find, define "militant atheists" as "atheists who stand up for what they don't believe".

Do you, likewise, call evangelical Christians "militant" and "disgusting"?

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 22, 2012 10:42 PM (QTHTd)

No I find two guys telling people to photograph ministers homes so they can put it on film as disgusting. You have no problem with that?

Posted by: Adam at October 22, 2012 06:44 PM (/YJYi)

54 In other news, Mexico is moving troops to the US border in hopes of retking land against our Calvary and bayonets.

Posted by: Ball of Hate at October 22, 2012 06:44 PM (AREf/)

55 "Chris Matthews thinks they talked about Israel too much
Posted by:Jones in CO"

Of course he does. Bless his heart.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at October 22, 2012 06:44 PM (d6TfZ)

56 Mitt did very well- therefore, Obama is the winner Plus Ã§a change.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 22, 2012 06:45 PM (AZGON)

57 so it seems that Romney was going for the Independents tonight, which is why I'm feeling a little let down I guess.

Posted by: spypeach at October 22, 2012 06:45 PM (pwTow)

58 "really did come close to nuclear war". Yeah. My father was a junior officer in the Air Force at Strategic Air Command headquarters at the time. The order to launch would come over a red phone that is manned 24/7. My father's job during the Cuban Missile Crisis was to wait in the big room with the 3 story high screens and pick up that phone when it rang. You bet your ass we were close. My father was there. We damn near launched. We actually flew nuclear bombers with armed, live, nukes to Okinawan staging bases. Yes, we had nuclear bombs sitting in Japan. We were a heartbeat away from nuclear war. Believe it.

Posted by: suicidal idiot at October 22, 2012 06:45 PM (iX/Ib)

59 Chris Matthews wishes they had spent more time talking about bourbon.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 22, 2012 06:45 PM (AZGON)

60 TouchÃ© on the ONT title this evening Maet!

Posted by: mpfs at October 22, 2012 06:45 PM (Mkhiu)

61 Holy shit. Mitt's closer was Reagan reincarnated. Fucking beautiful. I think I just came.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at October 22, 2012 06:46 PM (Cl95C)

62 People are gonna drift into the ONT now. Does that mean we gotta put our pants back on?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 06:46 PM (GEICT)

63 I have a cookbook that I bought because the foreword listed the author's philosophy that everything is better if you double the chocolate and add bacon.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 06:46 PM (Gk3SS)

64 52 >
Mitt did very well- therefore, Obama is the winner

Posted by: MSNBC at October 22, 2012 10:44 PM

I'm bleeding. Making me the victor.

Posted by: barry "wimp lo" soetoro at October 22, 2012 06:46 PM (yBF/9)

65 Apparently Barry blinked so much so fast, CNN is investigating whether his eyelids were manufactured at Nikon.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 22, 2012 06:46 PM (AZGON)

66 The SCOAMTT would like to cede our everything so the whole world can sing kumbaya together. Five times a day to beautiful music.

Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 22, 2012 06:47 PM (Sptt8)

67 What the hell is up with Megyn Kelly's hair?

Looks really dowdy.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2012 06:47 PM (BuSM8)

68 We just won.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at October 22, 2012 06:47 PM (Cl95C)

69 62 People are gonna drift into the ONT now. Does that mean we gotta put our pants back on?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 10:46 PM (GEICT)

What makes you think we're coming in with OUR pants on?

Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 06:47 PM (X6akg)

70 People are gonna drift into the ONT now. Does that mean we gotta put our pants back on? What are pants?

Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 22, 2012 06:47 PM (AZGON)

71 Romney is winning the post debate fact-checking frenzy-

And that Obama snark about bayonets? The Marines STILL USE, AND LOVE, THEIR BAYONETS

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 06:47 PM (8sCoq)

72 hi all
I think on content Romney won but in terms of the idiot undecideds, they will call it a tie

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 06:48 PM (d/5qf)

73 well obama is a lying cock sucker or as ace want's us to say a sucker of cock, but since I am stubborn I will say a cock sucker, that way in this one sentence I can call obama a cock sucker 4 times.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2012 06:48 PM (j1gX1)

74 67 What the hell is up with Megyn Kelly's hair? Looks really dowdy. She has hair? Hmmm...never made it that far.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 06:48 PM (GEICT)

75 Members Only? I have the jacket!

Posted by: Mahmoud at October 22, 2012 06:48 PM (hO8IJ)

76 In the post-debate spin on Fox, even the libs were using the word "condescending". Just sayin'.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 06:48 PM (kaalw)

77 Does that mean we gotta put our pants back on?

pants? what is this thing you speak of?

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 06:48 PM (d/5qf)

78 some of those Russian babes are not only so gorgeous but also so uber aryan that you have to wonder why the Nazis hated the Russians

Posted by: Avi at October 22, 2012 06:48 PM (51xVX)

79 That "we have these ships that planes land on" line by Obama is the nail in his coffin. Seriously, schoolyard 5 year old childish insult that only a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure could give..

Mitt was playing to the indies and undecideds tonight. Remember how we all just fucking hated that during the primaries? Yeah, I'm becoming convinced that it won him the election now.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 06:48 PM (+AV7H)

80 militant atheists are assholes. Fact.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2012 06:48 PM (ZPrif)

81 Dawkins is an asshole. I'm convinced he'd be one irrespective of his religious beliefs.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at October 22, 2012 06:48 PM (izPgb)

82 Bag. It is in it.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 22, 2012 06:49 PM (/1U3u)

83 Holy shit, did anyone just see the ad on Fox news with the Chinese?

Posted by: mpfs at October 22, 2012 06:49 PM (Mkhiu)

84 Lions be suckin'

Posted by: logprof at October 22, 2012 06:49 PM (jKE+Z)

85 Obama wins tonight because Bush lied.....Election over !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Chris Matthews at October 22, 2012 06:49 PM (lJ3rV)

86 People are gonna drift into the ONT now. Does that mean we gotta put our pants back on?

Of course not. Don't be silly.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 06:49 PM (Gk3SS)

87 70 What makes you think we're coming in with OUR pants on? Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 10:47 PM (X6akg) So...it's gonna be that kinda ONT....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 06:50 PM (GEICT)

88 looks like Cards are losing Game 7

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 06:50 PM (d/5qf)

89 Jews get a pass for not liking bacon, right?

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at October 22, 2012 06:50 PM (izPgb)

90 New blog post: Legal Â“RightsÂ” Granted to Â“GaiaÂ” Â…or, maybe Strip Mining turns Gaia onÂ… The village of Yellow Springs in Ohio has just become the most recent jurisdiction to grant Â“rightsÂ” to the Earth. No, not the band, but to the entire planet, or to be more accurate, to Gaia herself. This appears to be prompted by the Â“rapeÂ” of Gaia that would happen if fracking were allowed. Anyone ever thought that Gaia might like a good fracking now and then? More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=241

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 06:50 PM (sZTYJ)

91 That oh the eighties called they want their foreign policy back by the Preezy? Lame

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 22, 2012 06:50 PM (/1U3u)

92 > Holy shit, did anyone just see the ad on Fox news with the Chinese?

Posted by: mpfs at October 22, 2012 10:49 PM (Mkhiu)

and they followed up with an ad for '2016' on DVD

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 06:51 PM (8sCoq)

93 Wait, pants? I thought all ONTs were pants optional.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 06:51 PM (+AV7H)

94 83 Holy shit, did anyone just see the ad on Fox news with the Chinese?

Posted by: mpfs at October 22, 2012 10:49 PM (Mkhiu)

I can't see ads. What was it?

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 06:51 PM (kaalw)

95 Jews like bacon. They just can't have it.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 22, 2012 06:51 PM (/1U3u)

96 NPR reporter following Obama campaign described his performance as "condescending"!!!!!

Posted by: Thunderb at October 22, 2012 06:51 PM (Dnbau)

97 PONT

Pantsless Over Night Thread

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 06:51 PM (8sCoq)

98 The Reagan foreign policy - a mess in the peripheral, but on the main issue (the Soviets), he got it 1000% right.

Posted by: The Q at October 22, 2012 06:52 PM (B/yDO)

99 What makes you think we're coming in with OUR pants on?

Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 10:47 PM (X6akg)

Pants? Hell, I'm typing this with my throbbing cock.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2012 06:52 PM (BuSM8)

100 Is the ONT back to being a clique? Is there a re-initiation process or are new cliques supersets of old ones?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at October 22, 2012 06:52 PM (RZ8pf)

101 The EU was a plan to "socialize" Europe from the start, and there were plenty involved who wanted a "merger" with the East Bloc in the process. They must have been so confused when the East Bloc didn't last long enough to do it. There's actually a whole raft of books and documentaries on the subject, some with surprisingly open discussion from the people who planned it that way. Glad I'm not stuck there - mind you, four years of Obamastration is pretty distressing, too.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 06:52 PM (bxiXv)

102 Wait, pants? I thought all ONTs were pants optional.

I thought the entire blog was pants options.

Sigh. I miss having My Own. Personal. Thread.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 06:52 PM (Gk3SS)

103 Anyone noticing the unusual amount of dropped passes so far this year?

I'm not just talking about the Jets

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2012 06:52 PM (wwsoB)

104 Overnight Open Thread (10-22-2012) - Clique Members Only Edition LOL.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 06:53 PM (X3lox)

105 Jaiquan Bell is a fumbling clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Lions fans at October 22, 2012 06:53 PM (jKE+Z)

106 That oh the eighties called they want their foreign policy back by the Preezy?

Did he really fucking say that?!

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at October 22, 2012 06:53 PM (hO8IJ)

107 100 Is the ONT back to being a clique? Is there a re-initiation process or are new cliques supersets of old ones? But what about us newbies???

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 06:53 PM (GEICT)

108 hi PGiS
I think you are a member emeritus of the ONT clique

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 06:53 PM (d/5qf)

109 mpfs they began running that ad in the spring I think, has been out of rotation for several months. Timely to do it now though as low-info voters are finally paying attention.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 06:53 PM (1zwZo)

110 What Romney did tonight: The numbers almost completely baked in the cake at this point. The few true undecideds are looking for a reason to NOT vote for the JEF. Mitt was paternal, reasonable, not threatening. He's going to win this thing...

Posted by: Log Cabin at October 22, 2012 06:53 PM (JV/H0)

111 Jews get a pass for not liking bacon, right?>>

Yes because unlike Muslims they have never threatened to kill me for eating it.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 22, 2012 06:53 PM (DbhrR)

112 I saw the ad last nightwith the Dems who are voting against Obama this time.Hard hitting ad by David Bossie.

Posted by: steevy at October 22, 2012 06:53 PM (6o4Fb)

113 100 Is the ONT back to being a clique? Is there a re-initiation process or are new cliques supersets of old ones?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at October 22, 2012 10:52 PM (RZ8pf)

I was here back in 2008-2010, and I remember you being here then. Is that enough?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2012 06:53 PM (BuSM8)

114 Sigh. I miss having My Own. Personal. Thread. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 10:52 PM (Gk3SS) Every thread is your own personal thread if you don't read the comments.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 06:53 PM (bxiXv)

115 91 That oh the eighties called they want their foreign policy back by the Preezy? Lame

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 22, 2012 10:50 PM (/1U3u)

IIRC, the eighties were the Reagan years....y'know, when "foreign policy" meant "looking out for American interests overseas, kicking ass, and chewing bubblegum....minus the bubblegum."

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 06:53 PM (kaalw)

116 The third girl in that Russian girls link has the biggest pussy in between her legs

Posted by: The Q at October 22, 2012 06:54 PM (B/yDO)

117 Chris Wallace likes Mitt Romney tonight

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 06:54 PM (8sCoq)

118 OT Suh will definately be getting a fine for that hit on Cutler.

Posted by: steevy at October 22, 2012 06:54 PM (6o4Fb)

119 88 looks like Cards are losing Game 7
Posted by: chemjeff

So they were able to play? When I left San Francisco, it was raining, and I wondered.

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 06:54 PM (mKMj1)

120 Is this a thing?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 22, 2012 06:54 PM (fKrgS)

121

>>Bag. It is in it.

Each other's dicks. Let's not suck them yet.

Posted by: garret at October 22, 2012 06:54 PM (SvOXF)

122 The 80s called . . . they want their SCOAMF to stop snorting blow

Posted by: The Q at October 22, 2012 06:54 PM (B/yDO)

123 That oh the eighties called they want their foreign policy back by the Preezy? Lame

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 22, 2012 10:50 PM (/1U3u)

Did he really say that?

Posted by: Adam at October 22, 2012 06:55 PM (/YJYi)

124 Yes he really said that. Then went into a thing about Romney going back to 80s and 50s and 20s. I don't think it will show up on the campaign trail it laid flat.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 22, 2012 06:55 PM (/1U3u)

125 Is the ONT back to being a clique? Is there a re-initiation process or are new cliques supersets of old ones?

But what about us newbies???

*turns up nose* Sorry. You're just far too declasse for the likes of us.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go refill this Snoopy water glass with vodka.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 06:55 PM (Gk3SS)

126 I was in a Minuteman capsule one day after getting stoned the night before--we had a drill and my partner wouldn't turn the key so I had to draw down on him and we switched to WOPR to play tic tac toe.

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 22, 2012 06:55 PM (0CiTm)

127 >Is the ONT back to being a clique? Is there a re-initiation process or are new cliques supersets of old ones?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle

fear not- we are on the protected rolls and will come to no harm

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 06:55 PM (8sCoq)

128 Is the ONT back to being a clique? Is there a re-initiation process or are new cliques supersets of old ones?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at October 22, 2012 10:52 PM (RZ8pf)

Based on last night's discussion, I guess you need DAve's permission to post

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2012 06:55 PM (hO9ad)

129 So they were able to play? When I left San Francisco, it was raining, and I wondered. Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 10:54 PM (mKMj1) ______________________ The Giants are playing at least.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 22, 2012 06:55 PM (IuzqV)

130 102 I thought the entire blog was pants options. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 10:52 PM (Gk3SS) So listen, we need to discuss the webcam thing again.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 06:55 PM (GEICT)

131 It would have been satisfying for us morons if he had flamed the JEF, but Romney already has us and KNOWS we are gonna vote.

Posted by: Log Cabin at October 22, 2012 06:55 PM (JV/H0)

132 In regards to the whole DAve drama and clique crap from recent nights, let's call a spade a spade. He was calling out Peaches, and he was wrong.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 06:56 PM (1zwZo)

133 Cyrus Vance, who was a deputy secretary of defense at the Pentagon in 1962 and who later served as Jimmy CarterÂ’s Secretary of State, confirmed this view: Â“We had seen the gradual application of force applied in the Cuban Missile Crisis and had seen a very successful result. We believed that, if this same gradual and restrained application of force were applied in South Vietnam, that one could expect the same result.Â” Their "gradual application of force" is what led to the Cuban Missile Crisis - the weakness of their graduality. The weakness that built the Berlin Wall. But, once in the missile crisis, I give credit to JFK for tossing any sense of gradualism and going with: Third: It shall be the policy of this nation to regard any nuclear missile launched from Cuba against any nation in the Western Hemisphere as an attack on the United States, requiring a full retaliatory response upon the Soviet Union. which is as divorced from "gradualism' as one can get. Of course, to today's treasonous dems and their retard king, this threat would be a war crime and a hate crime and some sort of racist genocide all rolled up in one.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 06:56 PM (X3lox)

134 Militant atheists are disgusting. Posted by: Adam at October 22, 2012 10:36 PM (/YJYi) Yep.

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 06:56 PM (+XD7n)

135 Has anyone seen any summary statistics from the three debates? I am looking for something that summarizes total talk time, number of interruptions, etc. I think it would be quite useful in my discussions with my liberal co-workers.

Posted by: Scanner Dan at October 22, 2012 06:56 PM (Woucd)

136 Well, Krauthammer thinks Mitt won.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2012 06:56 PM (BuSM8)

137 Do you know what the moderators in these debates reminded me of?

Remember Star Trek VII; The Undiscovered Country where Kirk and McCoy were put on trial by the Klingons?

The Klingons were much more fair and balanced

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2012 06:56 PM (wwsoB)

138 Watching Megyn Kelly and polishing my bayonet.

Posted by: Uncle Mikey at October 22, 2012 06:56 PM (8qoXL)

139 The third girl in that Russian girls link has the biggest pussy in between her legs>>

Did not look but does that mean she has a giant Barack between her legs?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 22, 2012 06:56 PM (DbhrR)

140 So listen, we need to discuss the webcam thing again.

I am not taking another shower tonight.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 06:57 PM (Gk3SS)

141 91 That oh the eighties called they want their foreign policy back by the Preezy? Lame

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 22, 2012 10:50 PM

Plus economic policies from the 20's and something or other from the 50's. Barry is like, totally with it, man. Romney is into square dancing, but Barry does "The Hustle", man. Barry is totally plugged into today's groovy scene.

Posted by: otho at October 22, 2012 06:57 PM (yBF/9)

142 Holy crap. What's with all the dudes without pants? Weirdos.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2012 06:57 PM (U/oze)

143 I dunno. There was no flag on Suh. He landed on Cutler but it was part of the tackle.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at October 22, 2012 06:57 PM (izPgb)

144 Have Luntz's dunces been on yet?

Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 06:57 PM (X6akg)

145 I don't think it will show up on the campaign trail it laid flat.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 22, 2012 10:55 PM (/1U3u)

I kinda wish it would. It sounds like something a 15 year old would say, not a POTUS.

Posted by: Adam at October 22, 2012 06:57 PM (/YJYi)

146 Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go refill this Snoopy water glass with vodka.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 10:55 PM (Gk3SS)

could you refill my mug with val-u-rite? here it is, thanx

http://tinyurl.com/8mpjrmq

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 06:57 PM (d/5qf)

147 If we have cliques, isn't it time to break out the ONT Mean Girls t-shirts?

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2012 06:57 PM (wwsoB)

148 Good news in Nevada. On the third day of early voting, GOP in Washoe (20% of state's population & home of Reno) had more early voters than the Dems. No Dem has won statewide without winning Washoe (since at least '98 when Reid won statewide with <1000 votes). For the GOP to do well in Nevada, they need to win Washoe and at least keep Dem lead in Clark County (70% of states population & home of Las Vegas) to <10% lead. Still, got 11 more days of early voting left to go. Plan on voluneeting for poll watching this Friday (Nevada day, a state holiday).

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 06:57 PM (sZTYJ)

149 Obama tied himself in a lot of rhetorical knots - it was actually a bit of a grammatical nightmare. He accidentally compared Romney to Reagan (the 80s callback). He accidentally said he didn't care about the poor when he was in the Senate (the previous decade when no one in office cared about the poor). He accidentally said Romney's policies didn't favor the rich (Romney didn't help small businesses, which is what he called rich people). He even said ships were obsolete because of carriers and subs, which we have less of. Mr. Spock would have hung his head in shame.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 06:58 PM (bxiXv)

150 Kraut says Mitt killed it tonight.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2012 06:58 PM (U/oze)

151 The Hammer like Mitt's performance tonight

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 06:58 PM (8sCoq)

152 Shit yes, bayonet training is fucking awesome. An empty rifle can still be a pointy stick. (shamelessly stolen from Michael Z Williamson)

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 06:58 PM (4QAQg)

153 I put a link to the ad on my name.

Posted by: mpfs at October 22, 2012 06:58 PM (Mkhiu)

154 no Dunces yet.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 06:58 PM (1zwZo)

155 "One thing I think Americans should be proud of, when Tunisians began to protest, this nation -- me, my administration -- stood with them earlier than just about any country."

This moment in bizarre debate history brought to you by President Boo-boo.

(Actually, I thought he said, "I, me, my administration," but the transcript omits that first "I.")

Yes, over the last four years, you've had to choose your "I'm proud to be an American" moments carefully. They've been harder to come by.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 22, 2012 06:58 PM (vouc9)

156 Yeah DAve was itching to start something last night. Very odd.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at October 22, 2012 06:58 PM (izPgb)

157 I hear that, Tami. Bring on the dunces!

Posted by: Log Cabin at October 22, 2012 06:59 PM (JV/H0)

158 could you refill my mug with val-u-rite? here it is, thanx

Here you go! I pasted some cardboard tentacles on it for fun.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 06:59 PM (Gk3SS)

159 Do you know what the moderators in these debates reminded me of? Remember Star Trek VII; The Undiscovered Country where Kirk and McCoy were put on trial by the Klingons? The Klingons were much more fair and balanced Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2012 10:56 PM (wwsoB) I'll at least respect a judge with a Bat'leth

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 06:59 PM (sZTYJ)

160 137 Well, Krauthammer thinks Mitt won.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2012 10:56 PM (BuSM

I guess that's the official view inside the beltway, then.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 06:59 PM (kaalw)

161 Ok, thanks Conservative Crank.

Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 06:59 PM (X6akg)

162

Whew, sounds like I'm a legacy, the Delta Tau Chi house will have to let me in for sure!

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at October 22, 2012 06:59 PM (RZ8pf)

163 The Giants are playing at least. Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am

Ah! Good. I didn't pay any attention this season, but I have a general feeling of good will toward the Giants.

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 06:59 PM (mKMj1)

164 The Kraut is all in for the Romney Win

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 22, 2012 06:59 PM (ovpNn)

165

144Have Luntz's dunces been on yet?

-------

No, Tami. Not yet.

Posted by: wheatie at October 22, 2012 06:59 PM (ipkPX)

166 I haven't seen so much of cliques as such on the ONT, there's just been a few who filibustered and the rest of us just figured it was time for bed

Well, for some. That porn won't surf itself

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2012 06:59 PM (wwsoB)

167 Clique ? Did that bastard Maet change the secret handshake again ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at October 22, 2012 06:59 PM (lo/S5)

168 Those babes are Russians? Damn.

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 06:59 PM (+XD7n)

169 Obama already back peddling on sequestration. Dickhead.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2012 07:00 PM (U/oze)

170 Bret Baier is reporting that the WH is backpedaling on the 'sequester' thing.

Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 07:00 PM (X6akg)

171 Obama backing away from Sequester will not happen to should not happen.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 22, 2012 07:00 PM (ovpNn)

172 TFG camaign is already backtracking. hahaha

Posted by: Infidel at October 22, 2012 07:00 PM (v8Hu6)

173

>>If we have cliques, isn't it time to break out the ONT Mean Girls t-shirts?

Only if they are white and wet.

Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2012 07:00 PM (SvOXF)

174 140 I am not taking another shower tonight. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 10:57 PM (Gk3SS) This one time, for this one thing, the Horde can exhibit patience.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:00 PM (GEICT)

175 Thanks wheatie.

Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 07:00 PM (X6akg)

176 obama that lying prick is already backtracking on his sequestration WILL not happen to "Should" not happen. Lying bastard

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2012 07:00 PM (j1gX1)

177 Jonah Goldberg ‏@JonahNRO

WTH!? Soledad O'Brien just refused to ask CNN's OWN FOCUS GROUP who they'd vote for based upon the debate -- to protect their privacy! #FAIL

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:00 PM (8sCoq)

178 @JonahNRO
WTH!? Soledad O'Brien just refused to ask CNN's OWN FOCUS GROUP who they'd vote for based upon the debate -- to protect their privacy!

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 22, 2012 07:00 PM (DKxu1)

179 @73 xD you clown :p

Posted by: jimi ray at October 22, 2012 07:00 PM (79EF9)

180 Does anyone else not give a shit about twitter, or is it just me.

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2012 07:01 PM (hO9ad)

181 Has anyone read Allen G.'s posts yet about the Libya document dump? I haven't gotten to it yet, hoping to get to it soon, but I assume it's his usual high-quality work.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:01 PM (1zwZo)

182 It's not just the EU with hammers N sickles it's also COEXIST! [See the sock.]

Posted by: andycanuck at October 22, 2012 07:01 PM (vDl/w)

183 @34 Crank's right. Because when Churchill said "Jaw, jaw," it rhymed with "War, war."

Posted by: comatus at October 22, 2012 07:01 PM (qaVK+)

184 Hi, my ass tastes very good, just ask the Mooch and Joe!

Posted by: Barkys left nut at October 22, 2012 07:01 PM (Oi60j)

185 Krauthammer is giving a great coverage of the debate, particularly explaining Romney's not being "bellicose". I wanted to see him hit Obama harder on Libya. Kraut thinks it's better that he didn't.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 22, 2012 07:01 PM (jLiVY)

186 Well, hai thar Brett Baier, how you doin'?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 07:01 PM (Gk3SS)

187 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 22, 2012 07:01 PM (JMmQ9)

188 Twitter is for fags.

Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2012 07:01 PM (SvOXF)

189 (shakes tiny fist at Jones)

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 22, 2012 07:01 PM (DKxu1)

190 Krauthammer is giving a great coverage of the debate, particularly explaining Romney's not being "bellicose". I wanted to see him hit Obama harder on Libya. Kraut thinks it's better that he didn't. Posted by: nerdygirl at October 22, 2012 11:01 PM (jLiVY) Keep your friends close, but your enemy closer

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2012 07:02 PM (j1gX1)

191 Um.. the dick sucking thing? Any chance I could, like, not do it at all? Cause I'd really rather not. Nothing personal.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 22, 2012 07:02 PM (aHR5E)

192 what is this Russian girl link thingie? I feel left out

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:02 PM (8sCoq)

193 142 I know but the league often fines guy for hits that weren't flagged.The key is he actually hit a prima donna Qb and that is a no no.

Posted by: steevy at October 22, 2012 07:02 PM (6o4Fb)

194 Willard won. Barry looked petty. Wife even thought Barry looked mean and defensive. Got sick of OBL shit.

Cascade to continue.

This is over boys, get your rooms for the inaugural ball now!

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 07:02 PM (wR+pz)

195 Wait. Does AllenG have a blog??!!?

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at October 22, 2012 07:02 PM (izPgb)

196 153 I put a link to the ad on my name.

Posted by: mpfs at October 22, 2012 10:58 PM (Mkhiu)

Nice. And nice timing.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 07:02 PM (kaalw)

197 Gonna be a great November. Romney wins, then the new James Bond flick then my Birthday. Then hangover.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2012 07:02 PM (U/oze)

198 "Russian Mail Order Brides Part VII Sure there's a chance they'll break your heart, empty your bank account, and betray your country - but it's only like 74% - maybe 80% tops - and that's better than most of what you get in Vegas." No shit.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at October 22, 2012 07:02 PM (jLiVY)

199 FWIW Morris thought Romney won.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 22, 2012 07:02 PM (ZhNCB)

200 And those Russian girls? Unbelievably hot and I bet there's nothing you could come up with that they wouldn't do. Hmmm....I wonder if I can convince the wife we need a Russian live-in maid?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:02 PM (GEICT)

201 What a collapse by the Cards!

Posted by: steevy at October 22, 2012 07:02 PM (6o4Fb)

202 > (shakes tiny fist at Jones)

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 22, 2012 11:01 PM (DKxu1)

you get the next one!

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:03 PM (8sCoq)

203 Welcome to the ONT--- don't be shy about helping yourself to the punch and cookies.

Posted by: Doug Neidermeyer at October 22, 2012 07:03 PM (0CiTm)

204 132 In regards to the whole DAve drama and clique crap from recent nights, let's call a spade a spade. He was calling out Peaches, and he was wrong.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 10:56 PM (1zwZo)

So it is bad form for us to measure our dicks by how long we have been hanging out here?

All apologies to the ettes since they don't have dicks, but if you would like to compare your boobeh measurements, I would be more than happy to referee the contest.

Posted by: MrCaniac at October 22, 2012 07:03 PM (Zd/NW)

205 AtC--ISWYDT...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:03 PM (1zwZo)

206 >FWIW Morris thought Romney won.

shocked face : : - |

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:03 PM (8sCoq)

207 yeah, the Cards offense took the wrong time to go on vacation

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 07:04 PM (d/5qf)

208 President-Elect Mitt Romney and Vice President-elect Paul Ryan.

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 07:04 PM (+XD7n)

209
Former President Bill Clinton and his wife Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, attend the grand opening ceremony of the new Caracol Industrial Park in Caracol, Haiti, on Monday, Oct, 22, 2012.

Woman in charge of our foreign policy stating as far as eff away from the foreign policy debate.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 22, 2012 07:04 PM (kdS6q)

210

the fact that Charles and Wallace like Mitt tonight convinces me that he was trying to seal the deal with independents tonight. Let's hope it works.

Posted by: spypeach at October 22, 2012 07:04 PM (pwTow)

211 188 Twitter is for fags.

Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2012 11:01 PM (SvOXF)

Don't tell the head ewok, it will break his heart.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 07:04 PM (wR+pz)

212 Kraut's right. It was time for Mitt to reassure the weak minded undecideds.

Posted by: Log Cabin at October 22, 2012 07:04 PM (JV/H0)

213 This is over boys, get your rooms for the inaugural ball now! Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 11:02 PM (wR+pz) I'm going up to the Sub Base on Wednesday to buy a formal Dinner Uniform for A Dining in next month that just might turn into an Election Victory

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2012 07:04 PM (j1gX1)

214 Well, technically, I guess he was calling out Peaches, and the chivalrous 'rons who defend her--to which I say, "bring it."

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:04 PM (1zwZo)

215 Don't spike the ball on the 10...

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 22, 2012 07:05 PM (0CiTm)

216 The thing to understand about bayonets is best described by an obscure quote I found somewhere on the net (I think it was off of a Lee-Enfield site). "The more I understand about fighting with the bayonet, the more I feel the urgent need to improve my marksmanship"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 22, 2012 07:05 PM (Rhie+)

217 192 what is this Russian girl link thingie? I feel left out Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 11:02 PM (8sCoq) Here's where reading the post itself becomes important. Lol.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:05 PM (GEICT)

218 No shit.
Posted by: Mel Gibson at October 22, 2012 11:02 PM (jLiVY)

*************************

Next time go for a Polish girl instead of a back stabbing Ukrainian, you dumb fuck.

Posted by: Winston Wold at October 22, 2012 07:05 PM (+AV7H)

219 Hannity! Literally!

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:05 PM (8sCoq)

220

Speaking of phrases I want to punch someone for saying, the next mom that says to me "I can't take on one more thing this year I am doing so much already at school" I'ma gonna resort to violence. Because it is usually accompanied by them telling me that I should be the one to take on whatever task is at hand. Because apparently if you've got a crappy job that has no glory assigned to it to do, then PGIS is your girl.

Mean girls never really grow out of high school behavior, they just find new venues in which to practice their evil.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at October 22, 2012 07:05 PM (RZ8pf)

221 Lunz dunces up

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 07:06 PM (wR+pz)

222 CNN talking to a Dem strategist admits that TFG can't win without OH

Posted by: The Q at October 22, 2012 07:06 PM (B/yDO)

223 Chemjeff, in all fairness, the Giants played great defense, robbed the Cards of a few runs.

Posted by: Log Cabin at October 22, 2012 07:06 PM (JV/H0)

224 Dunces!

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2012 07:06 PM (hO9ad)

225 Luntz dunces up!

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 07:06 PM (+AV7H)

226 Didn't make it to the debate thread. Loved teh Kraut's take on it. Luntz's Dunces on now.

Posted by: joanne still likes Trey Gowdys hair and tude at October 22, 2012 07:06 PM (VNFBf)

227 Welcome to the ONT---don't be shy about helping yourself to the punch and cookies.

I was told there would be punch and pie.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 07:06 PM (Gk3SS)

228 Uh, Lunces dunces.

Posted by: Infidel at October 22, 2012 07:06 PM (v8Hu6)

229 Technically, we still use horses - at the least, in Afghanistan Special Forces use(d) them. and Marines use bayonets.

Posted by: Baldy at October 22, 2012 07:06 PM (opS9C)

230

PGIS--not all of them are girls--at least one has grown up to be President, too.

Also, dunces are on--drink!!

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:06 PM (1zwZo)

231 Douchebag Charlie Sheen guy in the Luntz Dunce group

Posted by: The Q at October 22, 2012 07:06 PM (B/yDO)

232 here come Lunce's Dunces

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:06 PM (8sCoq)

233 what an asshole that last guy was

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2012 07:06 PM (j1gX1)

234 Ralph Macchio on MSNBC lying through her vagina teeth.

Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2012 07:06 PM (mAMr1)

235 PGiS I believe to get back you need to link a pic. Of, you know, your rack.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 22, 2012 07:06 PM (/1U3u)

236 Mitt was actually brilliant. I listened on the radio. He went first on every answer and on each he essentially said in a string and masterful way the policies he would pursue, which were basically obamasvstated policies. Then he would add something. Then Obama would follow by saying"uh, what he said," and trying to scramble to put up a sparse man he could knockdown. The only times Obama scored "points" was when he was obviously lying.

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks iPhone edition at October 22, 2012 07:06 PM (rXiA3)

237 A dunce just said "Winning!" and one other person laughed.

Posted by: Adam at October 22, 2012 07:07 PM (/YJYi)

238 Krauthammer again, Romney looked relaxed. Came across as knowledgeable about foreign policy. Got in some digs about the economy. He said, being bellicose would have been a trap. People are leery of getting into war. Krauthammer said he appeared strong, but not a warmonger.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 22, 2012 07:07 PM (jLiVY)

239 Hmmm....I wonder if I can convince the wife we need a Russian live-in maid? Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 11:02 PM (GEICT) I think you're gonna be needing this. *hands BC an ice pack* And maybe this. *hands BC an athletic cup*

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 07:07 PM (4QAQg)

240 I was told there would be punch and pie. You do love pie don't you?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:07 PM (GEICT)

241 214 Well, technically, I guess he was calling out Peaches, and the chivalrous 'rons who defend her--to which I say, "bring it." Posted by: Conservative Crank

Oh? I thought Peaches was on, and she didn't seem to have a clue what was going on. Damned sure I didn't, and found the whole thing confusing.

Whatever. I think the Horde is astonishingly pleasant and welcoming.

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 07:07 PM (mKMj1)

242 Who's the blonde floozy on Luntz's dunces??

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2012 07:07 PM (U/oze)

243 Re : russian babes

the one in the 'saints and sinners' tee

bring her to me

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:07 PM (8sCoq)

244 The dunces are gonna fight!

Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 07:08 PM (X6akg)

245 Lunz dunces are beating up Barry.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 07:08 PM (wR+pz)

246 who's the dumb blond bitch on the end

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2012 07:08 PM (j1gX1)

247 "The more I understand about fighting with the bayonet, the more I feel the urgent need to improve my marksmanship">>

Don't forget the weight lifting and cardio cause bullets are heavy.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 22, 2012 07:08 PM (DbhrR)

248 OMG Luntz group fighting!

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 07:08 PM (+AV7H)

249 Very angry Romney fan there in the dunces...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:08 PM (1zwZo)

250 Is this taking place in Vegas again?

The blonde floozy makes me think so

Posted by: The Q at October 22, 2012 07:08 PM (B/yDO)

251 Cat fight in Luntz's dunces!

Posted by: Uncle Mikey at October 22, 2012 07:08 PM (8qoXL)

252 I only last week learnt the difference between a clique and a claque.

Posted by: Ace at October 22, 2012 07:08 PM (jKE+Z)

253 The blonde on Luntz is a fucking dunce.

Whore!

Posted by: mpfs at October 22, 2012 07:08 PM (Mkhiu)

254 Lunce's Dunces is gonna devolve into a friggin brawl! this is awesome!

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:08 PM (8sCoq)

255 One of Luntz's people just said "After Benghazi, Barack Obama isn't qualified to be Commander in Chief."

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2012 07:08 PM (hO9ad)

256 Luntz's Dunces are getting testy...

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 07:08 PM (sZTYJ)

257 Duntzes are rioting!

Posted by: Log Cabin at October 22, 2012 07:08 PM (JV/H0)

258 How can this black woman be an undecided.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 22, 2012 07:08 PM (PH+2B)

259 Guess what a Black "undecided" is coming out for Barry.

Call me SHOCKED.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (wR+pz)

260 Something tells me a few of these "undecideds" are not so

Posted by: The Q at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (B/yDO)

261 You do love pie don't you?

Pie is awesome.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (Gk3SS)

262 I didn't see Peaches in the kerfluffle last night, though I didn't start reading comments until around 4 a.m.--I saw several other 'ettes who were not pleased, though.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (1zwZo)

263 How can this black woman be an undecided. Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 22, 2012 11:08 PM (PH+2B) Shirely you jest

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (j1gX1)

264 MOLE!

Posted by: The Q at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (B/yDO)

265 my gawd the blonde on the right looks like an ex-porn star

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (8sCoq)

266 Russian Mail Order Brides Part VII Sure there's a chance they'll break your heart, empty your bank account, and betray your country - but it's only like 74% - maybe 80% tops - and that's better than most of what you get in Vegas. The country can't be betrayed while Barky is occupooping the White House, so we're safe on that account. Aside from that part, those Russian chicks are hot enough that they deserve the rest of it

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (X3lox)

267 The lady in the blue cardigan in the front row is really upset.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (IuzqV)

268 I was told there would be punch and pie.

I have Sugar Cream Pie.

But it's better with coffee or tea than with a sweet drink.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (hO8IJ)

269 groeds and Marilyn Monrow wanna be's.

Posted by: Infidel at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (v8Hu6)

270

>>You do love pie don't you?

Who doesn't?

Also. CakeGirl.

Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (mAMr1)

271 Luntz girl in the blue blouse?

I'd hit it.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (+AV7H)

272 Somebody should remind the President post-debate that horses were used to great effect by Special Forces in Afghanistan (and maybe Iraq) also). You don't need to be a wanna-be war god to know that...

Posted by: Kratos at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (5Vuz/)

273 I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (ccXZP)

274 Where bloody hell does Putz get these losers....?

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (9+ccr)

275 Wow, the Obama lovers are quite defensive, aren't they?

Posted by: Log Cabin at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (JV/H0)

276 The dunces are on fire tonight!

Some of them should be set on fire, actually.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2012 07:09 PM (BuSM8)

277 239 Hmmm....I wonder if I can convince the wife we need a Russian live-in maid? Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 11:02 PM (GEICT) I think you're gonna be needing this. *hands BC an ice pack* And maybe this. *hands BC an athletic cup* Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 11:07 PM (4QAQg) No, I think I've got an outside shot here. I once had her approval if I could come up with an Eva Longoria look a like. (yes, I know she's a dem fucktard, but we're talking purely on looks here)

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:10 PM (GEICT)

278 What's that clique'n noise?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 22, 2012 07:10 PM (xKC/c)

279 You know how those Obamabots got onto the Luntz group? They LIED.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 22, 2012 07:10 PM (PH+2B)

280

The Dunces are fighting!!! The O'Barky lovers are freaks. Literally.

Posted by: joanne still likes Trey Gowdys hair and tude at October 22, 2012 07:10 PM (VNFBf)

281 Pie?

Posted by: Kramer at October 22, 2012 07:10 PM (+XD7n)

282 TAMALE!

Posted by: George Costanza at October 22, 2012 07:10 PM (mAMr1)

283 I don't get MSNBC here - can anyone give us a summary of their reaction?

Posted by: Vertov at October 22, 2012 07:10 PM (rRr9n)

284 Hi all! I'm just in for a second. I really appreciated you guys last night.

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks iPhone edition at October 22, 2012 07:10 PM (rXiA3)

285 These Luntz idiots like Barky's anti-American foreign policy. What a bunch of retards. My G-d.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 07:10 PM (X3lox)

286 How can some of those people breath they are so stupid

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2012 07:10 PM (j1gX1)

287 Rubio. Hide the pudding.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2012 07:11 PM (U/oze)

288 255 One of Luntz's people just said "After Benghazi, Barack Obama isn't qualified to be Commander in Chief."
Posted by: Methos

That Dunce just graduated to "Dull, but hard working"!

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 07:11 PM (mKMj1)

289 I don't get MSNBC here - can anyone give us a summary of their reaction? Posted by: Vertov at October 22, 2012 11:10 PM (rRr9n) Shit are you lucky

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2012 07:11 PM (j1gX1)

290 Kratos, bitch, please--you're no wannabe.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:11 PM (1zwZo)

291 Brownies!

Posted by: mpfs at October 22, 2012 07:11 PM (Mkhiu)

292 I hope my liver survives two more weeks.

Posted by: Infidel at October 22, 2012 07:11 PM (v8Hu6)

293 The natives are getting restless. And by natives, I mean 'Obamabots'

Posted by: Uncle Mikey at October 22, 2012 07:11 PM (8qoXL)

294 Luntz hands out free phones if you are on one of his panels. Food stamps, too.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 22, 2012 07:11 PM (PH+2B)

295 Oooo, Rubio on Fox. Need pie, stat!

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at October 22, 2012 07:11 PM (d6TfZ)

296 megyn posing for pics in the background

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:11 PM (8sCoq)

297 Don't forget, most of them were Obama voters, so of course they're stupid, especially about foreign policy.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 07:11 PM (+AV7H)

298 Brownies!

Temptress.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 22, 2012 07:12 PM (xKC/c)

299 268 But it's better with coffee or tea than with a sweet drink. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at October 22, 2012 11:09 PM (hO8IJ) Since when is tea not sweet?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:12 PM (GEICT)

300 Obama's smartass remark about military's changed no longer need bayonets and horses. Someone on Fox News said he got a tweet from a marine that marines still use bayonets.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 22, 2012 07:12 PM (jLiVY)

301 The reason militant atheist are such assholes is because they feel compelled to attack the core beliefs of strangers -- beliefs that give that person's life sustenance and meaning -- even when those strangers are minding their own business. They are like assholes who go around insulting the hobbies of strangers. They are determined to convince comic book geeks that comics suck or cat lovers that cats are evil. That's why everyone hates them. They are giant fucking dicks. They are just assholes who enjoy being assholes.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2012 07:12 PM (ZPrif)

302 Who's the hot blonde behind Hannity??

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2012 07:12 PM (U/oze)

303 Do you like pie?

The Rock likes his lemon meringue pie, The Rock likes his apple pie . . .

But there's one type of pie The Rock likes best

Posted by: The Rock at October 22, 2012 07:12 PM (B/yDO)

304 83 Holy shit, did anyone just see the ad on Fox news with the Chinese? Yes. Epic. For those who didn't see, it's a classroom in 2030 China where the teacher talks about great empires falling. Greek. Roman. British. US. Talks about them owning all of our debt and, "Now they all work for us." In addition to bayonets still being in use, Special Forces trains with horses. They use them in places such as Afghanistan where the terrain calls for it.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at October 22, 2012 07:12 PM (KvKOu)

305 >I don't get MSNBC here - can anyone give us a summary of their reaction?
Posted by: Vertov at October 22, 2012 11:10 PM (rRr9n)

Obama was awesome as usual, Romney should burn in hell

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:12 PM (8sCoq)

306 I need a Bears pick-6 to go 2-1 this week.

Posted by: logprof at October 22, 2012 07:12 PM (jKE+Z)

307

For politics I still like Ryan over Rubio.

For appeal to teh ladies, I leave that to the 'ettes.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:12 PM (1zwZo)

308 I dont think this helped the JEF at all. Its all about GOTV now

Posted by: Thunderb at October 22, 2012 07:12 PM (Dnbau)

309 The Florida Dunces group proves it. There will be blood on November 7.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 22, 2012 07:12 PM (PH+2B)

310 Oooooh, Rubio Pie!

Posted by: mpfs at October 22, 2012 07:13 PM (Mkhiu)

311 Okay, the biggest dunce on now - Hannity!!

Posted by: joanne still likes Trey Gowdys hair and tude at October 22, 2012 07:13 PM (VNFBf)

312 Rubio on Fox News reinforcing Romney's specific take down of Obama on the "Apology Tour".

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 22, 2012 07:13 PM (jLiVY)

313 LOL, Kerry on MSNBC! Just typing that makes me laugh! Wotta tool he is.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at October 22, 2012 07:13 PM (d6TfZ)

314 On twitter I see the lefties are gloating about the horses and bayonets line. They think Obama bitch slapped Romney with that.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2012 07:13 PM (ZPrif)

315 At this rate, the MNF game will be over before the baseball game.

I think the Horde is astonishingly pleasant and welcoming.

I think some of the clique charges stem from the ridiculous amounts of in-jokes. It really can seem like everyone else knows something you don't when you first start hanging about in this hive of scum and villany.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 07:13 PM (Gk3SS)

316 302 Who's the hot blonde behind Hannity??

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2012 11:12 PM (U/oze)

I watching the brunette that's talking to Hannity.

Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 07:13 PM (X6akg)

317 284 Hi all! I'm just in for a second. I really appreciated you guys last night. Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks iPhone edition

You, and your brownies, were a treasure!

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 07:13 PM (mKMj1)

318 does anyone here watch the AMC show "Hell on Wheels?"

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at October 22, 2012 07:13 PM (RZ8pf)

319 So let me get this straight: Quite a few people on Luntz's panel said that a strong economy will mean more security, and the sense I got is that they think Romney's better in turning the economy around. But Obama's better on the foreign policy.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 22, 2012 07:14 PM (IuzqV)

320 Blondes have more fun in the background of Hannity's show

Posted by: The Q at October 22, 2012 07:14 PM (B/yDO)

321 On the Russian brides it is important to make clear to them that you will not be also bringing over their brother(husband). Since that makes things weird.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 22, 2012 07:14 PM (DbhrR)

322 The bayonet is the perfect weapon for stabbing someone with bad breath.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 22, 2012 07:14 PM (xKC/c)

323 314 On twitter I see the lefties are gloating about the horses and bayonets line. They think Obama bitch slapped Romney with that.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2012 11:13 PM (ZPrif)''

Boy are they going to be surprised when they discover marines still have bayonets on their rifles.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 22, 2012 07:14 PM (ovpNn)

324 I think some of the clique charges stem from the ridiculous amounts of in-jokes. It really can seem like everyone else knows something you don't when you first start hanging about in this hive of scum and villany.

That you Erg?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 07:14 PM (wR+pz)

325 Hey, do ya think that O'Bumbles realizes that the sequestration, necessitated by his welching on a deal with Boner, actually leads to a decrease in the number of those aircraft carrier that you can land planes on?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:14 PM (1zwZo)

326 Since when is tea not sweet?

I don't drop sugar in my hot tea.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at October 22, 2012 07:14 PM (hO8IJ)

327 Brown-Eyes!

Posted by: Barney Frank at October 22, 2012 07:14 PM (mAMr1)

328 No, I think I've got an outside shot here. I once had her approval if I could come up with an Eva Longoria look a like. (yes, I know she's a dem fucktard, but we're talking purely on looks here) Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 11:10 PM (GEICT) Well, in that case, if you get a FedEx package postmarked from Towson, Md, and it makes this weird ticking noise, it's very, very important that you, and not your wife, open it. Just saying.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 07:14 PM (4QAQg)

329 "2 I just want to remind you people, it's all about me. Posted by: back door barry soetoro" Gawd, I wish I could remember where he used the big ME, then corrected himself. Anyone catch that?

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 22, 2012 07:15 PM (jLiVY)

330 I think some of the clique charges stem from the ridiculous amounts of in-jokes. It really can seem like everyone else knows something you don't when you first start hanging about in this hive of scum and villany. VERY true, but you just have to stick with it. All is explained eventually.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:15 PM (GEICT)

331 I saw Ryan pie tonight. He really is a little hottie in person.

Posted by: Infidel at October 22, 2012 07:15 PM (v8Hu6)

332 Bingo, Thunderb. Mitt was steady and unthreatening. That's it. People are looking for a reason to kick Barry out right now.

Posted by: Log Cabin at October 22, 2012 07:15 PM (JV/H0)

333 EU ☠☪☭✌

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 07:15 PM (X3lox)

334 Look at the clenched jaw pic Drudge has up.

Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 07:15 PM (X6akg)

335 I was pretty impressed Mitt mentioned Mali a couple of times. You really have to search online to find information about what's going on there. The Irish lass with the bruised knees...what's her name...oh, Erin Burnett, did a story from there a month or two ago. Other than that it's very sporadic to see anything on that situation.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2012 07:15 PM (BuSM8)

336 I think some of the clique charges stem from the ridiculous amounts of
in-jokes.

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Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at October 22, 2012 07:15 PM (hO8IJ)

337 291 Brownies! Posted by: mpfs at October 22, 2012 11:11 PM (Mkhiu) You called? I really do make awesome brownies. I wish I could give some to everyone.

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 07:15 PM (rXiA3)

338 I think some of the clique charges stem from the ridiculous amounts of in-jokes. It really can seem like everyone else knows something you don't when you first start hanging about in this hive of scum and villany. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 11:13 PM Agreed. It takes a while to sync up, especially with AosHQ Rule #1.

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 22, 2012 07:16 PM (JMmQ9)

339 No Benghazi, no 'I'll have more flexibility', no 'you watched while US citizens died', no 'when was the last time you presented a budget asshole'. I am so disappointed in Mitt I will only vote for him one time.

Posted by: SteveB at October 22, 2012 07:16 PM (+wK5w)

340 > Someone on Fox News said he got a tweet from a marine that marines still use bayonets.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 22, 2012 11:12 PM (jLiVY)

and our black ops guys used horses in the early days of the A-stan campaign

http://tinyurl.com/3ctbmmn

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:16 PM (8sCoq)

341 They are determined to convince comic book geeks that comics suck or cat lovers that cats are evil. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2012 11:12 PM (ZPrif) About the "cats aren't evil" thing.......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 22, 2012 07:16 PM (Rhie+)

342 I need a Bears pick-6 to go 2-1 this week.

Shit. Bears D will give up a touchdown here just to flush my last chance at a pick this week. Just watch.

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2012 07:16 PM (hO9ad)

343 Well, in that case, if you get a FedEx package postmarked from Towson, Md, and it makes this weird ticking noise, it's very, very important that you, and not your wife, open it.

Just saying.

*starts stretching for the victory laps*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 07:16 PM (Gk3SS)

344
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2012 11:13 PM (ZPrif)''
Boy are they going to be surprised when they discover marines still have bayonets on their rifles.

And Special Forces used horses in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 07:16 PM (wR+pz)

345 Ukrainian chicks are batshit crazy.

My former neighbor was off the charts fucking crazy and so were her friends. When the Bulgarian guys moved in we moved out.

Posted by: mpfs at October 22, 2012 07:16 PM (Mkhiu)

346 290 Kratos, bitch, please--you're no wannabe. Well thanks CC, but there's more to knowing conflict then just snapping sirens/centaurs/whathaveyou in half,

. There's also the strategic/tactical part of it. For example, we're pretty convinced that Obama "gets off" on using drones because a) it gives him a feeling of power, b) he doesn't need specific Congressional approval for it, and c) it is relatively cheap and easy. However, for every militant that is killed just so Obama doesn't fill up Gitmo, we lose that much more actionable intelligence.

Posted by: Kratos at October 22, 2012 07:16 PM (5Vuz/)

347
Obama wins by a landslide in kids' online election

Nickelodeon's Linda Ellerbee said Monday that the president captured 65 percent of the vote to beat Republican Mitt Romney in the network's "Kids Pick the President" vote. More than 520,000 people cast online ballots through the children's network's website over one week earlier this month.

Have fun paying off the National Debt, rugrats.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 22, 2012 07:16 PM (kdS6q)

348 340 > Someone on Fox News said he got a tweet from a marine that marines still use bayonets.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 22, 2012 11:12 PM (jLiVY)

and our black ops guys used horses in the early days of the A-stan campaign
http://tinyurl.com/3ctbmmn

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 11:16 PM (8sCoq)

Are you surprised that Preezy COrpse Man didnt know what the fuck he was talking about AGAIN?

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 22, 2012 07:16 PM (ovpNn)

349 ...the ridiculous amounts of in-jokes...

Just don't wax poetic about Longbows

Posted by: Beto at October 22, 2012 07:17 PM (BAnPT)

350 For politics I still like Ryan over Rubio.
For appeal to teh ladies, I leave that to the 'ettes.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 11:12 PM (1zwZo)

Ryan. But I do think we have some pretty hot lookin' men on our side. Who do the Dems have? Hoyer, Frankin, Reid, Cummings, WAXMAN ..... need I go on?

Posted by: joanne still likes Trey Gowdys hair and tude at October 22, 2012 07:17 PM (VNFBf)

351 "204 132 In regards to the whole DAve drama and clique crap from recent nights, let's call a spade a spade. He was calling out Peaches, and he was wrong. Posted by: Conservative Crank" Really? He thinks Peaches stirs things up? Never got that impression. Not at all. Peaches you ol' devil, you.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 22, 2012 07:17 PM (jLiVY)

352 Well, not all--I've been here over a year and still only have a very hazy idea of the whole Bl*zer drama, and I only know all the Paul Anka stuff because when I first started reading I went through all the posts from the first year of the blog, in addition to reading all the greatest hits...but I'm also the guy who reads the entire manual on everything he buys.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:17 PM (1zwZo)

353 326 I don't drop sugar in my hot tea. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at October 22, 2012 11:14 PM (hO8IJ) *confused look* Since when is tea hot?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:17 PM (GEICT)

354 Did anyone else hear obama call himself "ME" when talking about where American stood on some issue

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2012 07:17 PM (j1gX1)

355 ooo clique edition. that might piss off some whiny bitches with sand in their vaginas.

Posted by: buzzion at October 22, 2012 07:17 PM (om5+S)

356 I think some of the clique charges stem from the ridiculous amounts of in-jokes. It really can seem like everyone else knows something you don't when you first start hanging about in this hive of scum and villany.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon.

Oh, I don't know. It's all in the side bar, if you scroll down far enough. One way or another.

Even the Stompy Boots, if you hang out long enough.

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 07:17 PM (mKMj1)

357 SteveB: Mitt did bring up "I'll be more flexible." Didn't hit it hard enough for most people to know what he was talking about, though.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 22, 2012 07:17 PM (vouc9)

358 54 In other news, Mexico is moving troops to the US border in hopes of retking land against our Calvary and bayonets. Calvary up! Scouts out! Rednecks Ho! Ballgame.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2012 07:17 PM (d0Dmj)

359 But cats ARE evil...

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 22, 2012 07:17 PM (/1U3u)

360 Obama wins by a landslide in kids' online election

This tempts me sorely to vote for Obama and skip out of the country . . .

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 22, 2012 07:17 PM (QTHTd)

361 >You called? I really do make awesome brownies. I wish I could give some to everyone.

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 11:15 PM (rXiA3)

I will happily supply you with a shipping address for me

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:17 PM (8sCoq)

362 "The Irish lass with the bruised knees...what's her name...oh, Erin Burnett, did a story from there a month or two ago."

Ask The Rock how that Irish lass got those bruised knees . . .

Posted by: The Rock at October 22, 2012 07:18 PM (B/yDO)

363 Heather,
Don;t forget laptop batteries and machines for sale.

Posted by: mpfs at October 22, 2012 07:18 PM (Mkhiu)

364 I think some of the clique charges stem from the ridiculous amounts of in-jokes. It really can seem like everyone else knows something you don't when you first start hanging about in this hive of scum and villany.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 11:13 PM (Gk3SS)

I have no idea what you're talking about, but I look forward to playing you in the movie.

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at October 22, 2012 07:18 PM (hO9ad)

365 Well thanks CC, but there's more to knowing conflict then just snapping sirens/centaurs/whathaveyou in half, . There's also the strategic/tactical part of it. For example, we're pretty convinced that Obama "gets off" on using drones because a) it gives him a feeling of power, b) he doesn't need specific Congressional approval for it, and c) it is relatively cheap and easy. However, for every militant that is killed just so Obama doesn't fill up Gitmo, we lose that much more actionable intelligence. Posted by: Kratos at October 22, 2012 11:16 PM (5Vuz/) well, since the Democrat alternative is to let them continue planning things, often paying them while they do so, I'll take the drones with thanks.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 22, 2012 07:18 PM (rzSn3)

366 Hey Mr President:

US Special Forces troops ON HORSEBACK

http://tinyurl.com/3ctbmmn

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:19 PM (8sCoq)

367 No Benghazi, no 'I'll have more flexibility', no 'you watched while US citizens died', no 'when was the last time you presented a budget asshole'. I am so disappointed in Mitt I will only vote for him one time.

Posted by: SteveB at October 22, 2012 11:16 PM (+wK5w)

Uh, Mitt did mention the flexibility stuff. Also referenced a lack of budgets. Yeah, I would've said no budgets, but it's better than nothing.

He didn't do as badly as you seem to think.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2012 07:19 PM (BuSM8)

368 right Heather, and Machines for Sale. Mustn't forget Machines for Sale.

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 22, 2012 07:19 PM (JMmQ9)

369 354 Did anyone else hear obama call himself "ME" when talking about where American stood on some issue

Yes I did, and he realized what a dick he sounded like and immediately said and America.

The chief smirker lost again.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 07:19 PM (wR+pz)

370 349 ...the ridiculous amounts of in-jokes... Just don't wax poetic about Longbows Posted by: Beto at October 22, 2012 11:17 PM (BAnPT) I will admit to wishing I had an explanation for the longbow/crossbow joke, but I have not dared ask. Also, pancakes.

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 07:19 PM (rXiA3)

371 Obama wins by a landslide in kids' online election

Hah! I told you! Game over man, game over!

Posted by: Gerg at October 22, 2012 07:19 PM (/YJYi)

372
In other news, Mexico is moving troops to the US border

Or as we call it in California, the Inner-Mexican border....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 22, 2012 07:19 PM (kdS6q)

373 Inside jokes?

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 22, 2012 07:20 PM (/1U3u)

374 343 *starts stretching for the victory laps* Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 11:16 PM (Gk3SS) Don't be greedy. You missed the afternoon thread where I said that the doc said I won't die. I specifically banned EC from coming near my wife.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:20 PM (GEICT)

375

well, since the Democrat alternative is to let them continue planning things, often paying them while they do so, I'll take the drones with thanks.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 22, 2012 11:18 PM (rzSn3)

Only until January 21--after that, I'll have much higher expectations.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:20 PM (1zwZo)

376 *confused look*

Since when is tea hot?

Again, you say these things to hurt me.

Someone once came in my office to ask if I happened to have any tea for a client with a sore throat. I opened up a cabinet and said "Um yes" as I waved at the 20+ boxes of tea.

Buster Posey is 10 years old. Seriously.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 07:20 PM (Gk3SS)

377 Speaking of machines for sale, has the machines sock puppet been around recently? I miss that guy.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 07:21 PM (4QAQg)

378

My take? Romney came off as he always does. Presidential. Obama looked like a petulant little child. Romney won it.. he had Jugears bumbling around like the little scoamf that he is in the last 45 minutes.

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at October 22, 2012 07:21 PM (1hNQS)

379 I loved Mitt's line to Obama tonight: "That's the height of silliness", lol!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 22, 2012 07:21 PM (KL49F)

380 Look at the clenched jaw pic Drudge has up.

Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 11:15 PM (X6akg)

Thought President Me looked ghoulish. I was getting worried for Romney.

Posted by: joanne still likes Trey Gowdys hair and tude at October 22, 2012 07:21 PM (VNFBf)

381 CNN poll said that Teh JEF won the debate. It's over man.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 22, 2012 07:21 PM (jucos)

382 I'm so relieved the SCOAMTT told us the sequestration will not happen. WTF?

Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 22, 2012 07:21 PM (Sptt8)

383 I thought Romney was clumsy in the beginning but got much better later on, to the point where I thought it was a narrow Obama win, to a tie, to a Romney win, especially as Obama got more and more assholish as time went on. I can't believe we have a President who acts like a 5 year old sniveling little shit. Embarrassing.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 07:21 PM (+AV7H)

384 Okay I am crazy.
I am going to start a 3-hour recipe.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 07:21 PM (d/5qf)

385 If you put your ear to those sandy vaginas you can hear the ocean. That's what I was told.

Posted by: mpfs at October 22, 2012 07:21 PM (Mkhiu)

386 I loved Mitt's line to Obama tonight: "That's the height of silliness", lol!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 22, 2012 11:21 PM (KL49F)

Oh, I missed that! I'll have to go look for it later.

Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 07:22 PM (X6akg)

387 @378

Yep, that tells it all.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 07:22 PM (wR+pz)

388 Oh, I agree that cats are evil. I just don't feel compelled to scream that in the face of cat-lovers. Or insults cats every time someone mentions how much they love their cat. I just live my life cat-free.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2012 07:22 PM (ZPrif)

389 I'm so relieved the SCOAMTT told us the sequestration will not happen. WTF? Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 22, 2012 11:21 PM (Sptt

They took that back 5 minutes after the debate ended

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2012 07:22 PM (j1gX1)

390 anyone see luntzes's dunces around ?

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 07:22 PM (Z9EHQ)

391 Clique is the sound your gun makes when it's out of bullets. Claque is stuff you get on your teeth.

Posted by: otho at October 22, 2012 07:22 PM (yBF/9)

392 377 Speaking of machines for sale, has the machines sock puppet been around recently? I miss that guy. Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 11:21 PM (4QAQg --Ask Trimestigus

Posted by: logprof at October 22, 2012 07:22 PM (jKE+Z)

393 353 326 I don't drop sugar in my hot tea.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at October 22, 2012 11:14 PM (hO8IJ)

*confused look*

Since when is tea hot?

In Texas. In August. When the electric goes out.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2012 07:22 PM (d0Dmj)

394 Longbows? Pshaw. A fart in a hurricane. The real battle was Pollock vs Cod. Much blood was spilled on that night.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 22, 2012 07:22 PM (Rhie+)

395 The Marines made their bayonet a tactical tool that can be used in a plethora of ways. Kinda like the Marines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OKC-3S_bayonet

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 22, 2012 07:22 PM (DbhrR)

396 Wow, Palin looks very... shiny tonight. I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 07:22 PM (+AV7H)

397 Inside jokes leave me flat. But then a lot of things do these days.

Posted by: Rachel Corrie at October 22, 2012 07:22 PM (rPA5/)

398 Boy are they going to be surprised when they discover marines still have bayonets on their rifles. And Special Forces used horses in Afghanistan. Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 11:16 PM (wR+pz) Ever try stabbing somebody with a horse? It may look easy, but it ain't.

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 07:22 PM (+XD7n)

399 Palin on. Love her.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 22, 2012 07:22 PM (/1U3u)

400 ...Allen G's post on the Libya document dump? Which thread is that on? THC? Morning news dump? Afternoon open thread? C'mon, I wanna read it.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 22, 2012 07:22 PM (/tk/V)

401 Kronos: Ok, I'll give you flexible, but I wanted skull f'ing not a play to the dunces on foreign policy. Why not go Reagan. Nation building at home? My kid could have made Obama cry.

Posted by: SteveB at October 22, 2012 07:22 PM (+wK5w)

402 Billy Bob.. yep.. I caught that (and I think he caught himself but it was too late). THAT did not go over well.

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at October 22, 2012 07:23 PM (1hNQS)

403 @271 Kratos, I'm glad you remember that. Takes us back to simpler days of yore on the ONT. The days of the sheaths of fat.

You don't have to spend your whole childhood reading fantasy and science fiction to realize that there is no mode of warfare, no matter how outmoded, that the United States can afford to ignore. It helps, though. If there were fire-breathing flying dragons, I'd be all for a fire-breathing flying dragon corps. What, have you heard something?

After WWI, we abandoned signals intel. After WWII, there were no snipers. And everybody knows about fighter planes with no guns.

I was ashamed for my country, and talked about it a lot, when the first US forces into Afghanistan had to borrow saddles because all of ours had been sold off as surplus. As it turned out, the first in were USAF special forces, and I found the idea of Air Force cavalry alluring and comforting. Every few years, Navy wants its airships back, and it's all I can do to say no. My god, they were beautiful things.

Right now, and about three moves ahead of Pres. Seven-Dimensional-Chess there, we have to keep ass in gear to make sure the carrier group does not become the Pacific battleship fleet of the 21st century. But it can be done, and it must.

While we're at it, the battleship has its applications, just saying. Given my head like a runaway warhorse, I could blow a trillion the first year and not a penny would be wasted. And I might just start with horses and bayonets.

Posted by: comatus at October 22, 2012 07:23 PM (qaVK+)

404 I loved how Chris Wallace quoted that Marine's tweet about how they still use bayonets and asked, "who's more knowledgable about the military?"

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 22, 2012 07:23 PM (KL49F)

405

It's an old, old debate, hardly unique to the HQ, about longbows vs. crossbows. Both sides are totally irrational. Also, it's obviously longbows.

I think the pancakes thing is from a recurring meme on the ONT about 70s movie, pronographic overtones, and the possiblity of pancakes being made at any time--vague on that one myself.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:23 PM (1zwZo)

406 Not one mention of the real threat to national security . Fucking Scandi's .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at October 22, 2012 07:23 PM (lo/S5)

407 God Bless The Horde !!!!!!! So glad that I am part of this Awesome group !!!!!!!! Great job on the live debate blog Andy and Ace !!!!!!

Posted by: grumpy momma bear at October 22, 2012 07:23 PM (IKR24)

408 Look at CNN's post debate panel. Hard lefties all.

Posted by: Ktgreat at October 22, 2012 07:23 PM (avGs3)

409 I don't drop sugar in my hot tea. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at October 22, 2012 11:14 PM (hO8IJ) That sounds like code.

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 07:23 PM (+XD7n)

410 390 anyone see luntzes's dunces around ?

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 11:22 PM (Z9EHQ)

They almost had a brawl, so they haven't been back to them yet.

Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 07:23 PM (X6akg)

411

Well my conservative kid didn't bother to vote in the Nick Kids pick President poll because he thought it was stupid. Given how often the First Lady has graced kids shows over the last 4 years it is not really a surprise anyway. I mean she is always turning up on the Disney Channel or on Nick shows.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at October 22, 2012 07:23 PM (RZ8pf)

412 *starts stretching for the victory laps* Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 11:16 PM (Gk3SS) Don't forget to calibrate your webcam first. So we can check your, um....technique. That's it, technique. Don't be greedy. You missed the afternoon thread where I said that the doc said I won't die. I specifically banned EC from coming near my wife. EC is not DC. Again, just saying.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 07:23 PM (4QAQg)

413 "More than 520,000 people cast online ballots through the children's network's website over one week earlier this month.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix"

Yeah, when I was a kid I wrote Jimmy Carter a letter 'cause I thought he was cool. I was 9 years old. BFD.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at October 22, 2012 07:24 PM (d6TfZ)

414 Look at CNN's post debate panel. Hard lefties all. Posted by: Ktgreat at October 22, 2012 11:23 PM (avGs3) shocka

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2012 07:24 PM (j1gX1)

415 Somebody should remind the President post-debate that horses were used to great effect by Special Forces in Afghanistan (and maybe Iraq) also). You don't need to be a wanna-be war god to know that... Posted by: Kratos at October 22, 2012 11:09 PM (5Vuz/) Barky was going to hit Mitt with a joke about carrying a 1911 but he didn't have time to slip it in with all the other lies and idiocies.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 07:24 PM (X3lox)

416 Sarah P looking extra scrumptious

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:24 PM (8sCoq)

417 396 Wow, Palin looks very... shiny tonight. I'll be in my bunk. GET THE FUCKING TICKER OUT OF THE WAY FOX!!!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:24 PM (GEICT)

418 I didn't realize what a big set of teeth Barry has. Also repeating the same talking points, OBL, TEACHERS, renewable energy, tax on the wealthiest, blah blah blah. Got real old.

He is a fucking empty suit.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 07:24 PM (wR+pz)

419 MK Ultra and St. Sarah wearing purple/pink.

Breast cancer awareness or a friendly reminder that I need to bang them?

Posted by: The Q at October 22, 2012 07:24 PM (B/yDO)

420 They almost had a brawl, so they haven't been back to them yet. Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 11:23 PM (X6akg) were they on? where?

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 07:24 PM (Z9EHQ)

421 ah I'm off to bed

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2012 07:25 PM (j1gX1)

422 I will admit to wishing I had an explanation for the longbow/crossbow joke, but I have not dared ask. Also, pancakes. Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 11:19 PM (rXiA3) Short answers: Two commenters started a drawn-out debate on longbows vs. crossbows in the middle of a huge, serious blow-up and argument, and drove the poor people trying to calm down / stop the crazy stuff mad. Mainly Ace. Pancakes was from a running joke about inviting a lady to your place some evening - for pancakes, which you would fix for them in the morning. Thus, asking someone if they like pancakes is asking them if they want to come to your place and get floozled.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 07:25 PM (bxiXv)

423

Two bows, divergent, in a yellow wood

and sorry I could not carry both.

Being one archer, long I stood

then having shot each as far as I could.

I, I took the one less cumbersome

and that has made all the difference.

Posted by: Fareed Zakaria- 'Agincourt' at October 22, 2012 07:25 PM (mAMr1)

424 "The chief smirker lost again.
Posted by: Billy Bob"

JEF also said "I and Americans..." Odd syntax. Almost like he's not one of us...naaahhhh, I'll remove the tinfoil now.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at October 22, 2012 07:25 PM (d6TfZ)

425 147 If we have cliques, isn't it time to break out the ONT Mean Girls t-shirts? Where's soulpile? We need the linky to order shirts. Gushie did some cool designs too, but I don't think she set anything up to produce shirts,

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at October 22, 2012 07:25 PM (T1/me)

426 were they on? where?

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 11:24 PM (Z9EHQ)

They were on briefly.....Hannity/Fox.

Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 07:26 PM (X6akg)

427 409 I don't drop sugar in my hot tea.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at October 22, 2012 11:14 PM (hO8IJ)

That sounds like code.

The chair is against the wall. Repeat: The chair is against the wall.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2012 07:26 PM (d0Dmj)

428 hahahaha pollack vs. cod, that was a funny argument.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at October 22, 2012 07:26 PM (RZ8pf)

429 416 396 Wow, Palin looks very... shiny tonight. I'll be in my bunk. GET THE FUCKING TICKER OUT OF THE WAY FOX!!! Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 11:24 PM (GEICT) 417 Sarah P looking extra scrumptious Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 11:24 PM (8sCoq) --Linkies, please. . . .

Posted by: logprof at October 22, 2012 07:26 PM (jKE+Z)

430 Also, pancakes. Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 11:19 PM (rXiA3) It's how you get a date to your apartment for a romp. ace once went into detail on the mechanics of getting sex on the first date, IIRC. offering pancakes seemed to be the key line, though you didn't have to actually have pancakes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 07:26 PM (X3lox)

431 PAN THE CAMERA DOWN FOR GOD'S SAKE!

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU FOX!

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 22, 2012 07:26 PM (ovpNn)

432 clique schmique. no moron would belong to a clique that would have them as a memeber.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 07:26 PM (Z9EHQ)

433 Crossbows are the vaginas of medieval weapons.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2012 07:26 PM (ZPrif)

434 Don't these kids know the SCOAMTT'S wife is the one responsible for messing with their lunches? It's like they're kids or something.

Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 22, 2012 07:26 PM (Sptt8)

435 Yep...Luntz's Dunces went Full Retard! You might as well of been talking to your local Kinder class what they thought. You probably would have learned more.

Posted by: Jimi at October 22, 2012 07:26 PM (6sLo8)

436 405
Conservative Crank,
One word: Grenades.

Posted by: mpfs at October 22, 2012 07:27 PM (Mkhiu)

437 Damn. Sarah Palin. Damn.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:27 PM (GEICT)

438 They were on briefly.....Hannity/Fox. Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 11:26 PM (X6akg) thanks

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 07:27 PM (Z9EHQ)

439

>>Much blood was spilled on that night.

All over a couple of bottom feeding trash fish.

Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2012 07:27 PM (mAMr1)

440 I will admit to wishing I had an explanation for the longbow/crossbow joke, but I have not dared ask. Also, pancakes.

I really need to save the longbow explanation as a text file. Very very short version. There were some problems with people going over the line with racial humor and ace did a Very Special Post about it. It was all earnest and serious and then in the comments a discussion about how the use of longbows altered the balance of power when they were first introduced. It started as an interesting and serious discussion about longbows v. crossbows with ancillary forays into related military history. Well, ace kept lecturing us to stop talking about the damn longbows because the post was super cereal guys. The more he told us to stop, the more we kept it up. Thus, longbows.

Now the pancake thing ace started himself when he discussed luring a girl back to a lair with the hey I'll make us pancakes line. Thus pancakes is now a Moron euphemism for gettin' some.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 07:27 PM (Gk3SS)

441 Fucking Scandi's .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at October 22, 2012 11:23 PM (lo/S5)

Go FUCKING HOME!

http://tinyurl.com/63zklk8

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 07:27 PM (wR+pz)

442 > I will admit to wishing I had an explanation for the longbow/crossbow joke, but I have not dared ask.

Agincourt!

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:27 PM (8sCoq)

443 Sooooo... what's The Donalds big shocka? I think it's Michelle has a dick.

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at October 22, 2012 07:27 PM (1hNQS)

444 The guys get shirts. Perhaps the 'ettes can get matching thongs...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:27 PM (1zwZo)

445 clique schmique. no moron would belong to a clique that would have them as a memeber.

'zactly. If there's a clique here I don't want in. If I'm already in, I want out.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 22, 2012 07:27 PM (xKC/c)

446 What recipe, chemjeff? Bread?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at October 22, 2012 07:27 PM (6JMZR)

447 I'm pretty sure I just saw a jiggle on Palin.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:28 PM (GEICT)

448 Dive, FOX cameras, DIVE! MOAR PALIN!

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 07:28 PM (+AV7H)

449 Sarah.

I wanna motorboat.

Just sayin'...

Posted by: Uncle Mikey at October 22, 2012 07:28 PM (8qoXL)

450 Sure there's a chance they'll break your heart, empty your bank account, and betray your country - but it's only like 74% - maybe 80% tops - and that's better than most of what you get in Vegas.
***
I don't think that there is a purer example of the failure of communism then the Russian mail order bride business.

The most attractive, and also the smartest, flee the country that communism built.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2012 07:28 PM (AUeaU)

451 Zakaria looks like he got his face tightened. He looks like a serial killer.

Posted by: Ktgreat at October 22, 2012 07:28 PM (avGs3)

452 Sarah Palin for Secretary of How You Doin'?

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:28 PM (8sCoq)

453 Steve: I think Romney believes he's winning. He also knows that the press has loved to jump on him about FP every time he opens his mouth, starting with his overseas trip to Libya in the second debate. As a result, he was exceedingly cautious in this debate. He scored enough with some good lines to keep it close, and Obama was sometimes too nasty and small.

It was a tactical win for Obama, but probably a strategic win for Mitt. Also, a lot of the stories coming out now are poking holes in what Obama said more than what Romney said.

We wanted Romney to finish him off and didn't get that. But Romney was going low risk.

Also, let's face it: real foreign policy--i.e. alliances and defense, not trade--Romney will have to rely on advisors for. It's not what he's confident in his own knowledge about.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 22, 2012 07:29 PM (vouc9)

454 That sounds like code.

Blue blooms the gentians.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at October 22, 2012 07:29 PM (hO8IJ)

455 Did anyone else hear obama call himself "ME" when talking about where American stood on some issue Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2012 11:17 PM

Keep in mind that I and Americans took leadership in organizing an international coalition that made sure that we were able to, without putting troops on the ground at the cost of less than what we spent in two weeks in Iraq, liberate a country that had been under the yoke of dictatorship for 40 years.

Posted by: Barry Obama at October 22, 2012 07:29 PM (bAGA/)

456 Palin uses too many words to speak the truth.

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 22, 2012 07:29 PM (he2LC)

457 Fucking Scandi's . Posted by: Bill D. Cat at October 22, 2012 11:23 PM (lo/S5) Beware the Vast Scandi Lutefisk Conspiracy

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 22, 2012 07:29 PM (Rhie+)

458 3 more outs, time to crush the Cards last hopes.... Romney = Giants Obama = Cards

Posted by: Log Cabin at October 22, 2012 07:29 PM (JV/H0)

459 The Dunces are coming back on!

Posted by: Uncle Mikey at October 22, 2012 07:29 PM (8qoXL)

460 The Luntz skull fuckers are coming up after the commercial break

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2012 07:29 PM (BuSM8)

461 I thought Romney was clumsy in the beginning but got much better later on, to the point where I thought it was a narrow Obama win, to a tie, to a Romney win, especially as Obama got more and more assholish as time went on.

Yeah, if this had been a two hour debate we'd have seen Obama go full Biden.

And you never go full Biden.

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 22, 2012 07:29 PM (QTHTd)

462 The dunces will be back after the break.

So will Juan Williams.

But I repeat myself.....

Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 07:29 PM (X6akg)

463 mpfs, as demonstrated by Rambo and also Gizmo, bows make highly effective grenade launchers--just sayin'.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:29 PM (1zwZo)

464 Guess I'm a huge slut.

Posted by: Rachel Corrie at October 22, 2012 07:29 PM (6JMZR)

465 452 Sarah Palin for Secretary of How You Doin'? Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 11:28 PM (8sCoq) Sarah Palin for Secretary of Nudity?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:30 PM (GEICT)

466 Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 22, 2012 11:29 PM (vouc9) Jonah Goldberg agrees with you - Romney Tonight, Part II http://tinyurl.com/9o7q2d4

Posted by: Kratos at October 22, 2012 07:30 PM (5Vuz/)

467 Kronos: Agreed. Damn.

Posted by: SteveB at October 22, 2012 07:30 PM (+wK5w)

468 "starting with his overseas trip to Libya in the second debate"

Should have put a comma after "overseas trip." I'm talking about the trip to England, etc. back in the summer.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 22, 2012 07:30 PM (vouc9)

469

Obama visited Israel once when he was running for office. Has he visited Israel even once since then?

Posted by: Ohio Dan` at October 22, 2012 07:30 PM (JKNDp)

470 Was anyone else terminally creeped out by Obama's "domestic nation building" thing, given his background? I was getting all these internet conspiracy theory flashbacks, you know, EU/UN/Agenda 21/Urban Renewal etc.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 07:30 PM (bxiXv)

471 The most attractive, and also the smartest, flee the country that communism built.

I used to Skype with a Russian gal who was more fappable than a younger Eva Longoria with a conservative brain. Certainly didn't meet the stereotype of them being cold hearted commie whores that I naturally assumed them to be.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 07:30 PM (+AV7H)

472 Do you, likewise, call evangelical Christians "militant" and "disgusting"?
Posted by: boulder hobo at October 22, 2012 10:42 PM (QTHTd)

Don't find too many evangelicals doing what militant atheists do.

I think atheists saw what the gays were getting away with and thought; "hey we could do that".

And so they're not just disbelievers, they've actually declared war on religion. Strangely though, they only pick on Christians. Why is that?

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 22, 2012 07:30 PM (Vh0f5)

473 435 Yep...Luntz's Dunces went Full Retard!

You might as well of been talking to your local Kinder class what they thought. You probably would have learned more.

Posted by: Jimi at October 22, 2012 11:26 PM (6sLo

Lets see how many switch tonight.

and the only reason they went full retard was because of the two obama plants Aunt J and Fat Blondie

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 22, 2012 07:30 PM (ovpNn)

474 Somebody should remind the President post-debate that horses were used to great effect by Special Forces in Afghanistan (and maybe Iraq) also).

You don't need to be a wanna-be war god to know that...
***
Yeah, but you have to actually read your intelligence briefings or listen to real war reporting.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2012 07:30 PM (AUeaU)

475 Guess I'm a huge slut.

I know you're trying to be funny, but it came off a little flat.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 22, 2012 07:30 PM (xKC/c)

476 Palin for Sec. of FeedBags

Posted by: Jimi at October 22, 2012 07:30 PM (6sLo8)

477 SF 9 St.L 0 top of the 9th

Waiting for navycopjoe to call it for Teh Cubbies.

Posted by: Basement Cat at October 22, 2012 07:31 PM (ZH0sH)

478 Cliquish fuckers. I said it before

----{@

Posted by: rightlysouthern (aim low boys, theys ridin ponies) at October 22, 2012 07:31 PM (jw8c0)

479 Don't forget to calibrate your webcam first. So we can check your, um....technique. That's it, technique.

Again, I am not taking another shower tonight.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 07:31 PM (Gk3SS)

480 Romney had no need to kick in the Preezys teeth tonight. He had to pass the CinC credibility test. Which he did. Obama continued playing the jackass, which makes Maddow hard but that's about it.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 22, 2012 07:31 PM (/1U3u)

481 "I wanna motorboat.

Just sayin'...
Posted by: Uncle Mikey"

Oh, my...

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at October 22, 2012 07:32 PM (d6TfZ)

482 The Russians are white people, without Western Civilizational values.

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 22, 2012 07:32 PM (he2LC)

483 Guess I'm a huge slut.

Posted by: Rachel Corrieat October 22, 2012 11:29 PM (6JMZR)

***

That joke fell flat.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2012 07:32 PM (AUeaU)

484 Palin uses too many words to speak the truth.
********************************

The excess of words kept her on screen longer. I approve.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 07:32 PM (+AV7H)

485 @453

I disagree. Mitt was brilliant getting the conversation back to the economy. I also think he looked more like a president than the smirking asshole sitting next to him.

It's over. Women will not be threaten by Mitt and will not like Barry's rudeness.

Pudding please

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 07:32 PM (wR+pz)

486 Guess I'm a huge slut.

Posted by: Rachel Corrie at October 22, 2012 11:29 PM (6JMZR)

I bet when you were called a slut you were simply crushed.

Posted by: Adam at October 22, 2012 07:32 PM (/YJYi)

487 I think the pancakes thing is from a recurring meme on the ONT about 70s movie, pronographic overtones, and the possiblity of pancakes being made at any time--vague on that one myself.

Ace was explaining why you have to lie to moderates, except it's not really a lie, just the common ground they and we pretend to have so that they'll vote with us-like when he invites a thai tranny hooker back to his place for pancakes, they both know there will never actually be any pancakes.

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2012 07:32 PM (hO9ad)

488 Ikea will be the downfall of modern society .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at October 22, 2012 07:32 PM (lo/S5)

489 Wow, thx all the people who explained about longbows crossbows and pancakes. I think I walked into the pancake thing a couple of times.

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 07:32 PM (rXiA3)

490 I'm missing Palin rack?! Dammit!

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 07:32 PM (+XD7n)

491 @400 uh, hate to break it to you, but "making pancakes" has LONG been a euphemism for getting it on! xD

Posted by: jimi ray at October 22, 2012 07:33 PM (79EF9)

492 Thought President Me looked ghoulish. I was getting worried for Romney.

Is there a way to tell someone is on bath salts before they start chewing your face?

Posted by: fluffy at October 22, 2012 07:33 PM (z9HTb)

493 479 Again, I am not taking another shower tonight. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 11:31 PM (Gk3SS) Then how will you get all the pudding off?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:33 PM (GEICT)

494 What are people drinking tonight?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:33 PM (1zwZo)

495
And so they're not just disbelievers, they've actually declared war on religion. Strangely though, they only pick on Christians. Why is that?
___
It is truly a mystery!

Posted by: An Islamist slowly sharpening his knife at October 22, 2012 07:33 PM (AUeaU)

496

Luntz's Dunces on next. Can't wait for the big fat black woman and the big fat blonde to crank out their words of stupid that only O'Barky lovers can spew.

Posted by: joanne still likes Trey Gowdys hair and tude at October 22, 2012 07:33 PM (VNFBf)

497 And so they're not just disbelievers, they've actually declared war on religion. Strangely though, they only pick on Christians. Why is that? Posted by: Jcw46 at October 22, 2012 11:30 PM (Vh0f5) They know which religion they don't believe in.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 22, 2012 07:33 PM (rzSn3)

498 Again, I am not taking another shower tonight.

Then how are we going to get the opening scene to "Alextopia: The Movie"?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 22, 2012 07:33 PM (xKC/c)

499 I call it, as stupid as Luntz's group was thinking Obama won on foreign policy, most of them will switch to Romney.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 07:33 PM (+AV7H)

500 Ok, night folks.....see ya in the a.m.

Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2012 07:33 PM (X6akg)

501 "The Russians are white people, without Western Civilizational values."

Russians are mostly white, part Tatar.

Posted by: JB at October 22, 2012 07:34 PM (xVcWj)

502

Well I think obama really schooled Romney with that whole "ships that go underwater" thing. Oooo burn.

What a douchenozzlewadbagtard.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at October 22, 2012 07:34 PM (RZ8pf)

503 It is pouring rain in SF. Been a while since I've seen a baseball game played in this much rain.

Posted by: Doc at October 22, 2012 07:34 PM (3HsdR)

504 Night Tami!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:34 PM (GEICT)

505 I think atheists saw what the gays were getting away with and thought; "hey we could do that". Posted by: Jcw46 at October 22, 2012 11:30 PM (Vh0f5) Other way around. Militant atheists have been using that schtick since at least the French Revolution.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 22, 2012 07:34 PM (Rhie+)

506 here we go luntz time

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 22, 2012 07:34 PM (ovpNn)

507 I use old pancakes for my Longbow targets. Once you can hit a pancake, you're golden

Posted by: Beto at October 22, 2012 07:34 PM (BAnPT)

508 And so they're not just disbelievers, they've actually declared war on religion. Strangely though, they only pick on Christians. Why is that?

To be fair, who doesn't want their car washed, the leaves raked, the roof fixed and a nice bundt cake?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 07:34 PM (Gk3SS)

509 Also, pancakes. Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 11:19 PM (rXiA3) So, now that you know the story behind the pancakes it was probably funnier and more interesting when you didn't know and thought it was something really cool and smart

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 07:34 PM (X3lox)

510 Rachel Corrie,

The slut store called. They are running out of you.

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 22, 2012 07:34 PM (he2LC)

511 Most Christians, I find, define "militant atheists" as "atheists who stand up for what they don't believe". There are a lot of things I don't believe, and I feel no need to "stand up for" any of them.

Posted by: Weirddave at October 22, 2012 07:34 PM (74T7W)

512 Turn up the Stupid Frank

Posted by: Jimi at October 22, 2012 07:35 PM (6sLo8)

513 teej, not sure if you're joking, but Allen G has his own blog, dedicatedtenther over on blogspot.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:35 PM (1zwZo)

514 490 I'm missing Palin rack?!

Dammit! Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 11:32 PM (+XD7n)

***************************

Even the FOX ticker couldn't completely hide it. Todd would slice my throat if he knew what I was thinking right now.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 07:35 PM (+AV7H)

515 469 Obama visited Israel once when he was running for office. Has he visited Israel even once since then?

NO

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 07:35 PM (wR+pz)

516 Is there a way to tell someone is on bath salts before they start chewing your face?

If they're chewing on the face of the person seated next to you, that's a pretty good sign.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 22, 2012 07:35 PM (xKC/c)

517 Wow, they're at each others' throats from the start!

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 22, 2012 07:35 PM (IuzqV)

518 Pancakes was from a running joke about inviting a lady to your place some evening - for pancakes, which you would fix for them in the morning. Thus, asking someone if they like pancakes is asking them if they want to come to your place and get floozled. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 11:25 PM "You want to come up to my apartment? I make the best pancakes." Also, what AtC said.

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 22, 2012 07:35 PM (JMmQ9)

519

Pants? My skirt's up over my head, does that count?

" There's not a more disgusting sight than you with a few drinks in you and your skirt up over your head--your heads, I should say."

Posted by: George to Martha in Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf at October 22, 2012 07:35 PM (Q2wni)

520 Then how will you get all the pudding off? Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 11:33 PM (GEICT) The pudding doesn't get washed off. It gets *removed* by other means.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 07:35 PM (4QAQg)

521 Semi OT question, but I saw a picture of Sarah Palin where she looked dreadfully thin - wrists beyond bony, collar-bones standing stark under her skin. Was that a photoshop?

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 07:35 PM (mKMj1)

522 So how much do these Russian girls pay ya to let em come over here, marry ya and become your every morning lover and every night minx.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 22, 2012 07:35 PM (tWrwm)

523 OMG

Posted by: Jimi at October 22, 2012 07:35 PM (6sLo8)

524
And so they're not just disbelievers, they've actually declared war on religion. Strangely though, they only pick on Christians. Why is that?
***
Yeah I knew a really nice Russian woman. Worked with her for years and we were pretty close.

Then the first time it was in her interest she fucked me hard with a smile on her face the whole time. And I mean in the IRS sense, not "yeah baby, I can make blueberry ones".

Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2012 07:36 PM (AUeaU)

525 Russians are white, generally speaking, but are more Asian in intellectual proclivity.

Posted by: SteveB at October 22, 2012 07:36 PM (+wK5w)

526 The Dunces are in rare form. Attention whores. All of them.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 22, 2012 07:36 PM (jucos)

527 White Shirt Guy is a shill

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:36 PM (8sCoq)

528 Well I think obama really schooled Romney with that whole "ships that go underwater" thing. Oooo burn.

What a douchenozzlewadbagtard.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at October 22, 2012 11:34 PM

Just so folks know....A ship that goes under the water is called a WRECK

Posted by: Beto at October 22, 2012 07:36 PM (BAnPT)

529 Meanwhile, Obama looked a bit desperate at times, particularly when he was staring at Romney as if to force the former governor into spontaneous human combustion. nro corner quote

Posted by: 15 days at October 22, 2012 07:36 PM (LpQbZ)

530

Hi ont. Not part of the clique, but ya'll have always been good to me. Sounds like Romney did ok. Hubby bitchin at me because I am trying to cut out goodies so we can lose some lbs.

And the cops drove by my house lights off, paranoid me, I just put up my Romney sign a couple days ago, tee hee.

Oh and drinking a beer

Posted by: lou's a girl at October 22, 2012 07:36 PM (2Nzn8)

531 All these lunz dunce all plants.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 07:36 PM (wR+pz)

532 Guess I'm a huge slut. Posted by: Rachel Corrieat October 22, 2012 11:29 PM (6JMZR) You mean surface area?

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 07:36 PM (+XD7n)

533 So I take it Obama's third debate bounce will hit at the same time the second one does.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 22, 2012 07:36 PM (GZitp)

534 Anderson Cooper factchecks TFG and notes that the Marines still use bayonets

Posted by: The Q at October 22, 2012 07:36 PM (B/yDO)

535 Even the FOX ticker couldn't completely hide it. Todd would slice my throat if he knew what I was thinking right now. At this point, as long as she smiled at me, I wouldn't care.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:36 PM (GEICT)

536 The Luntz idiots are divided.

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 22, 2012 07:37 PM (he2LC)

537 422 I will admit to wishing I had an explanation for the longbow/crossbow joke, but I have not dared ask. Also, pancakes.

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 11:19 PM (rXiA3)

Short answers:

Two commenters started a drawn-out debate on longbows vs. crossbows in the middle of a huge, serious blow-up and argument, and drove the poor people trying to calm down / stop the crazy stuff mad. Mainly Ace.

Pancakes was from a running joke about inviting a lady to your place some evening - for pancakes, which you would fix for them in the morning. Thus, asking someone if they like pancakes is asking them if they want to come to your place and get floozled.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 11:25 PM (bxiXv)

The pancake could also be for St. Pancake, Rachel Corrie herself. But that usually entails some Caterpillar references.

Posted by: MrCaniac at October 22, 2012 07:37 PM (Zd/NW)

538 I think I walked into the pancake thing a couple of times.
___
How you doin?

Posted by: Some Moron at October 22, 2012 07:37 PM (AUeaU)

539 @532 Do you hear an echo during 69?

Posted by: Jimi at October 22, 2012 07:37 PM (6sLo8)

540 494 What are people drinking tonight?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 11:33 PM

Vodka, galliano, cointreau.

Posted by: otho at October 22, 2012 07:37 PM (yBF/9)

541 Anyway whoever said this was a clique was obviously not around during the primaries. Ugh.

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 07:37 PM (rXiA3)

542 clique schmique. no moron would belong to a clique that would have them as a member. Marxism! ... The good kind.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 07:37 PM (X3lox)

543 Somebody should remind the President post-debate that horses were
used to great effect by Special Forces in Afghanistan (and maybe Iraq)
also). >>

And why DARPA keeps up with the robot Mule project.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/09/11/darpa-robot-pack-mule-takes-stroll/

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 22, 2012 07:37 PM (DbhrR)

544 The Dunces think Obama won

real shocked face (: -O

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:37 PM (8sCoq)

545 Who is the big woman with the expansive chest on the lower right hand corner. WOW

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 22, 2012 07:38 PM (jucos)

546 Two possible scenarios for Fox's undecided panel. 1. More dems are liars. 2. Independents are stupid. Not mutually exclusive.

Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 22, 2012 07:38 PM (Sptt8)

547 Well I think obama really schooled Romney with that whole "ships that go underwater" thing. Oooo burn.
___
What the hell? They don't sink or something?

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 22, 2012 07:38 PM (AUeaU)

548 520 Then how will you get all the pudding off?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 11:33 PM (GEICT)

The pudding doesn't get washed off. It gets *removed* by other means.
Posted by: DC in Towson

Are you suggesting that the Horde is capable of staging an orgy over politics?

You interest me strangely!

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 07:38 PM (mKMj1)

549

Well, if they are divided, they can't all be idiots!

Can they?

Posted by: Meremortal at October 22, 2012 07:38 PM (1Y+hH)

550 Just a random Mormon thing: I have a relative in Mormon Country. They are not Mormon, have no desire to be, and their neighbors know it... but their Mormon neighbors are *always* doing nice things for them, shoveling the walk, helping with the yard, baking things, etc. No proselytizing, just being *nice*. Also mentioned seeing an accident, deer had been hit on the road, car messed up. They put a sheet over the deer. Do people do that in other places?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 07:38 PM (bxiXv)

551 @548 OMG-FAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAP

Posted by: Jimi at October 22, 2012 07:39 PM (6sLo8)

552 Todd would slice my throat if he knew what I was thinking right now.

He's thinking "And guess who is in my bed tonight, bitches."

teej! I was thinking about how happy you must be about the KState win.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 07:39 PM (Gk3SS)

553 Old Crow.

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 22, 2012 07:39 PM (he2LC)

554 Luntz's Dunces do not understand sea power or how power projection works.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 22, 2012 07:39 PM (+r4NB)

555 Hey panelists, when we have technology that lets the same ship be in two places at once, then we can have less ships. They really are dunces.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:39 PM (1zwZo)

556 Anyway whoever said this was a clique was obviously not around during the primaries. Ugh.>>

What do you mean we were all solidly behind Mitt from the beginning.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 22, 2012 07:39 PM (DbhrR)

557 No one wants to talk Russian psyche? Oh well, crossbows rule.

Posted by: SteveB at October 22, 2012 07:39 PM (+wK5w)

558 On diet, nothing, booo

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 07:39 PM (wR+pz)

559 Luntz sucks up to the morons.

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 22, 2012 07:40 PM (he2LC)

560 Fatboy Luntz has a terrible hair helmet.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 22, 2012 07:40 PM (jucos)

561 Hmm. No military among the dunces, apparently.

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2012 07:40 PM (hO9ad)

562 The pancake could also be for St. Pancake, Rachel Corrie herself. But that usually entails some Caterpillar references.

Posted by: MrCaniac at October 22, 2012 11:37 PM (Zd/NW)

Those jokes often fall flat.

Posted by: buzzion at October 22, 2012 07:40 PM (GULKT)

563 "Also mentioned seeing an accident, deer had been hit on the road, car messed up. They put a sheet over the deer. Do people do that in other places?
Posted by: Merovign"

Not in Texas. It's just a road hazard.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at October 22, 2012 07:40 PM (d6TfZ)

564 Domo arigato, swordsman! Domo arigato! May your rice bowl never be empty!

Posted by: and irresolute at October 22, 2012 07:40 PM (DBH1h)

565 The Dunces have not factored in the game-changing qualities of the longbow

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:40 PM (8sCoq)

566 Are you suggesting that the Horde is capable of staging an orgy over politics? Capable? More like hoarding Viagra, val u rite and Spanish Fly.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:41 PM (GEICT)

567 @513- Allen G. His own blog. Yer pullin my leg.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 22, 2012 07:41 PM (HEWhR)

568 I want that! I want a bride!

Posted by: and irresolute at October 22, 2012 07:41 PM (DBH1h)

569 Luntz's Dunces do not understand sea power or how power projection works. Posted by: Country Singer at October 22, 2012 11:39 PM (+r4NB) I am happy to stop by and make a small scale demonstration.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 07:41 PM (Z9EHQ)

570 Are you suggesting that the Horde is capable of staging an orgy

Yes.

You know the only reason that the Giants call hasn't been called is because the Cards are so fucked.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 07:41 PM (Gk3SS)

571 Russians are white, generally speaking, but are more Asian in intellectual proclivity.
***
I think of it as cultural genetics.

Due to being conquered by the Khans and being shut off from Protestant Christianity they didn't develop the intellectual framework to build a free society.

That being said, they were slowly getting there when the communists took over and set them back hundreds of years.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2012 07:41 PM (AUeaU)

572 Mitt wasn't trying to win the debate. He was setting up the long game.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 22, 2012 07:42 PM (0SHei)

573 Anyway whoever said this was a clique was obviously not around during the primaries. Ugh. Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 11:37 PM (rXiA3) Describing ONT as "cliquish" is a long-time insult used by certain lemon-sucking daywalkers. JEALOUS daywalkers.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 22, 2012 07:42 PM (Rhie+)

574 Just so folks know....A ship that goes under the water is called a WRECK Posted by: Beto at October 22, 2012 11:36 PM (BAnPT) And submarines are called boats, not ships. Basically Obama "schooled" Romney by not remembering the word submarine? Obama was just a putz, as usual.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 07:42 PM (bxiXv)

575

Romney ran out the clock tonight on Obama while giving him a garbage touchdown. Obama had to turn the race around. Romney didn't give O a chance to do that.

Properly played, Mitt.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 22, 2012 07:42 PM (1Y+hH)

576 call = game sheesh need more booze

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 07:42 PM (Gk3SS)

577 What are people drinking tonight?

==

Blue Moon Pumpkin Ale

Posted by: fluffy at October 22, 2012 07:42 PM (z9HTb)

578

can the lions pull off the onside kick?

we shall see

Posted by: navycopjoe has an iphone5 and you don't at October 22, 2012 07:42 PM (xsTuT)

579 Are you suggesting that the Horde is capable of staging an orgy over politics? Is someone suggesting there is something the horde is incapable of staging an orgy over?

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 07:42 PM (Z9EHQ)

580 Clearly there wasn't a single military dude in the Luntz group.

Then again, a military vet aren't typically shiftless, undecided pussies so they wouldn't be included in a Luntz group anyway. Unless his name was Wesley Clark.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 07:42 PM (+AV7H)

581 drinkin cheap vodka

no seriously

Posted by: kinlaw at October 22, 2012 07:42 PM (uLTng)

582 "I think some of the clique charges stem from the ridiculous amounts of in-jokes. It really can seem like everyone else knows something you don't when you first start hanging about in this hive of scum and villany. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon." What inside jokes?

Posted by: The chicken at October 22, 2012 07:42 PM (jLiVY)

583 The blonde in the lower right is an Obamabot plant.

She's also a tranny. Goes by the name Hugh Drack.

Posted by: Uncle Mikey at October 22, 2012 07:42 PM (8qoXL)

584 teej--go suck on a railroad spike. I do mean that in the moron sense though, not the f*ck off sense.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:42 PM (1zwZo)

585 LongBows always win!

Posted by: Jimi at October 22, 2012 07:42 PM (6sLo8)

586 http://allrecipes.com/recipe/herb-roasted-pork/detail.aspx

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 07:43 PM (d/5qf)

587 I would really, really like to get a "Hello Kitty" AR-15.

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 22, 2012 07:43 PM (he2LC)

588
Those jokes often fall flat.

Posted by: buzzion at October 22, 2012 11:40 PM (GULKT)

They are also usually retreads too.

Posted by: MrCaniac at October 22, 2012 07:43 PM (Zd/NW)

589 MNF sucks the hairy wazoo tonight.I guess only Bears fans are happy with it.

Posted by: steevy at October 22, 2012 07:43 PM (6o4Fb)

590 People, people...Fucking please!

Someone on bath salts only chews off another person's face when they've been doing nothing but bath salts for four or five days.

It looked like Barry was on day three so it's all good.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2012 07:43 PM (BuSM8)

591 509 Also, pancakes. Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 11:19 PM (rXiA3) So, now that you know the story behind the pancakes it was probably funnier and more interesting when you didn't know and thought it was something really cool and smart Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 11:34 PM (X3lox) Really cool and smart? From the horde?

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 07:43 PM (rXiA3)

592 Luntz should have asked those morons if they new what was going on between Japan and China. Guaranteed the answer was 100% no. Those "undecided" dolt's don't even realize that we are borderline naval confrontation with China right now.

Posted by: Ball of Hate at October 22, 2012 07:43 PM (AREf/)

593 550 Just a random Mormon thing: I have a relative in Mormon Country. They are not Mormon, have no desire to be, and their neighbors know it... but their Mormon neighbors are *always* doing nice things for them, shoveling the walk, helping with the yard, baking things, etc.

No proselytizing, just being *nice*.

Also mentioned seeing an accident, deer had been hit on the road, car messed up. They put a sheet over the deer. Do people do that in other places?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 11:38 PM (bxiXv)

It almost sounds like the South Park episode "All about the Mormons" which while making fun of the origin of the church really hits hard at the fact that the Mormons are just really nice.

And no I don't think people put sheets over a deer that has been hit. At least not around here. Damn 170lb rats.

Posted by: buzzion at October 22, 2012 07:43 PM (GULKT)

594 @582 [milk out nose]

Posted by: Jimi at October 22, 2012 07:43 PM (6sLo8)

595 I got a free thing today from Ruby Tuesdays. The only reason I kept it is because they enclosed it in an ad thingy that showed shrimp wrapped bacon! ... see rule #9 please!

Posted by: and irresolute at October 22, 2012 07:43 PM (DBH1h)

596 562 The pancake could also be for St. Pancake, Rachel Corrie herself. But that usually entails some Caterpillar references. Posted by: MrCaniac at October 22, 2012 11:37 PM (Zd/NW) ------------------------------------------------------- We've pretty much flattened that joke out.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 22, 2012 07:43 PM (jucos)

597 I was drinking Miller Lite, now Coke Zero

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 07:44 PM (d/5qf)

598 LongBows always win!
___
And that's why we speak English in France to this day, right?

I FART IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION!

Posted by: Some Frenchman at October 22, 2012 07:44 PM (AUeaU)

599 What do you mean we were all solidly behind Mitt from the beginning.
Posted by: Buzzsaw

Well, at least JackStraw was.

The rest of us? I admit I was no Mitt-girl. I flitted from candidate to candidate, and mourned as they went down in flames.

Now, I'm truly a Mitt girl, indistinguishable from Ann Coulter, except in the intensity of my support.

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 07:44 PM (mKMj1)

600 Describing ONT as "cliquish" is a long-time insult used by certain lemon-sucking daywalkers.

Don't do cliques. I'll show up and blather non-sense any time of day or night.

Posted by: fluffy at October 22, 2012 07:44 PM (z9HTb)

601

589 I guess only Bears fans are happy with it.

yeppers

Posted by: navycopjoe has an iphone5 and you don't at October 22, 2012 07:44 PM (xsTuT)

602 uh, hate to break it to you, but "making pancakes" has LONG been a euphemism for getting it on! xD

Posted by: jimi ray at October 22, 2012 11:33 PM (79EF9)

I didn't know that. But then I didn't know what a dildo was until I was 18. Long story. Catholic school.

Posted by: joanne still likes Trey Gowdys hair and tude at October 22, 2012 07:45 PM (VNFBf)

603 inside jokes? I think people are mistaking inside jokes for depravity.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 07:45 PM (Z9EHQ)

604 18-1: close. Russians were way behind to start with, you are correct. They did have pre renaissance development under the czars but the commies destroyed the spirit of the people. They are entirely ruined. Ruined people best describes the Russians today. They have no cultural underpinnings to devolve to.

Posted by: SteveB at October 22, 2012 07:45 PM (+wK5w)

605 I'm at work for the next 6 hours, then have a 90 minute drive home. So I'm drinking water. For breakfast, red wine in a pint glass, probably.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 07:45 PM (4QAQg)

606 No, Frenchie, that's why you're not speaking German, verstehen?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:45 PM (1zwZo)

607 So, atheists who don't want the Christian religion in the public square are "militants".

Christians who do want their religion in the public square are freedom fighters.

I get it now.

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 22, 2012 07:45 PM (QTHTd)

608 Really cool and smart? From the horde? Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 11:43 PM (rXiA3) Heh. Touche.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 07:45 PM (X3lox)

609 @598 The arrows were made in China...ARGOFuckYourself!

Posted by: Jimi at October 22, 2012 07:45 PM (6sLo8)

610 Posted by: buzzion at October 22, 2012 11:43 PM (GULKT) Yet ironically, only Mormons go to Heaven in the SP world. That's part of what I love about SP, that and the jokes aren't derived from manatees picking word-balls out of a pile...

Posted by: Kratos at October 22, 2012 07:46 PM (5Vuz/)

611 But then I didn't know what a dildo was until I was 18.Long story. Catholic school.
___
Go on...

Posted by: Some Moron at October 22, 2012 07:46 PM (AUeaU)

612 Mormons are really nice. That is how they suck you in.

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 22, 2012 07:46 PM (he2LC)

613 Meghan and teh Cuda both looking like their next jobs are going to be my babies' mamas.

Posted by: MrCaniac at October 22, 2012 07:46 PM (Zd/NW)

614 and corky eats the grass again

Posted by: navycopjoe has an iphone5 and you don't at October 22, 2012 07:46 PM (xsTuT)

615 OT but I've been watching some good WWII documentaries on youtube.

Posted by: posting OT cuz I wanna at October 22, 2012 07:46 PM (Q2wni)

616 Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 11:37 PM (rXiA3) Describing ONT as "cliquish" is a long-time insult used by certain lemon-sucking daywalkers. JEALOUS daywalkers. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 22, 2012 11:42 PM (Rhie+) Really? Just because they need to sleep they blame the ont? Also, day walkers? Really? What if you post at night and during the day?

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 07:46 PM (rXiA3)

617 The pancake could also be for St. Pancake, Rachel Corrie herself. But that usually entails some Caterpillar references. Posted by: MrCaniac
We've pretty much flattened that joke out.
Posted by: Truck Monkey

Thin gruel indeed.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 22, 2012 07:46 PM (DKxu1)

618 Awesome Halo 4 ad just now. You know your game's huge when Fincher directs the ad.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 07:47 PM (Gk3SS)

619 Fascinating. In my experience, Catholic school students are more depraved than the public school population...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:47 PM (1zwZo)

620 Well, fuckity, I was gonna skip this and go to bed, but I will be damned if I will be considered non-clique. Le clique, c'est moi. Bitchez.

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 07:47 PM (kpCLl)

621 Well, tonight we saw a future president and a sub-retard with a kindergarten world view debate. GO ROMNEY!

Posted by: Up with people! at October 22, 2012 07:47 PM (kzFo5)

622 Dammit here comes the Lions TD to screw my pick.

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2012 07:47 PM (hO9ad)

623 I really need to save the longbow explanation as a text file. Very very short version. There were some problems with people going over the line with racial humor and ace did a Very Special Post about it. It was all earnest and serious and then in the comments a discussion about how the use of longbows altered the balance of power when they were first introduced.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 11:27 PM (Gk3SS)

Actually there was no longbow vs. crossbow debate. Someone asked why bows and arrows weren't used in the Civil War, which led to a bows vs. primitive guns discussion.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 07:47 PM (4BBjP)

624 Ace just retweeted this from CNN: "More of CNN post debate Poll: Can Obama handle job of Cmdr. in Chief? Yes: 63%. Can Romney? Yes: 60%."

CNN calls that a draw, but I score that as a win for Romney because parity on that question is what you most want to achieve as the challenger.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 22, 2012 07:48 PM (vouc9)

625 Saw a youtube vid on twitter that a monument to the horse soldiers of Afghanistan is to be put up at Ground Zero.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 22, 2012 07:48 PM (KL49F)

626 The rest of us? I admit I was no Mitt-girl. I flitted from candidate to candidate, and mourned as they went down in flames.>>

I was the same (except with man parts) Mitt has brought me around mostly by his ability to actually win this thing.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 22, 2012 07:48 PM (DbhrR)

627 Oh, sorry! Cameron Hughes Meritage, lot 365 or something like that. I would have scotch, but then my stomach would never forgive me.

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 07:48 PM (mKMj1)

628 I didn't know that. But then I didn't know what a dildo was until I was 18.Long story. Catholic school. Really? I've known a few catholic school girls and they....fit the stereotype.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:48 PM (GEICT)

629 Soon as the Russians turned back we should have created a diamond down there. ... think about it! More Bacon for us!! Yeah!

Posted by: and irresolute at October 22, 2012 07:48 PM (DBH1h)

630 I would really, really like to get a "Hello Kitty" AR-15. Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 22, 2012 11:43 PM (he2LC) If I remember correctly, the guy who put together that Hello Kitty rifle was threatened with legal action by the Japanese company that owns the HK franchise, but they backed off when they realized it was a one-off for his daughter.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 22, 2012 07:48 PM (Rhie+)

631 Peaches, hai there!!!

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:48 PM (1zwZo)

632 also, day walkers? Really? What if you post at night and during the day?

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 11:46 PM (rXiA3)

Elizabethe, are you trying to tell us that you go both ways?

Posted by: kinlaw at October 22, 2012 07:48 PM (uLTng)

633 http://tinyurl.com/9x3fkqc (mediaite)

Journalism 101 -- Flip off the Fox News camera. It demonstrates your overwhelming intelligence and collegiate training.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 22, 2012 07:49 PM (0It32)

634 So, atheists who don't want the Christian religion in the public square are "militants".
***
Yep.

If you don't like to see Christian symbols, ideas, and traditions in our Christian country, move.

In American you have freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. Interestingly the left makes a similar error when it comes to freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and the right of assembly.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2012 07:49 PM (AUeaU)

635 I remember visiting Salt Lake City and the Mormon Temple grounds. They got some serious hotties walking the grounds there who will befriend you and make you feel as satisfied as sex deprived moron like me could possibly expect to be with his clothes on.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 07:49 PM (+AV7H)

636

Catholic Girls

You know how they go.

Posted by: Frank Zappa at October 22, 2012 07:49 PM (v7qJe)

637 I'VE GOT IT!!
The JEF was doing an ocular pat down on Romney all night. That's why he was staring at him like that.

Posted by: Ball of Hate at October 22, 2012 07:49 PM (AREf/)

638 Also, day walkers? Really? What if you post at night and during the day? Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 11:46 PM (rXiA3) Well, which one were you spying for?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 07:49 PM (bxiXv)

639

Why do we care about the un-decideds? Damn them, they have seen the damage done to America, and still can't decide?

Well fuck them, just my opinion!

Posted by: lou's a girl at October 22, 2012 07:49 PM (2Nzn8)

640 Catholic students are depraved?

How tell?

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 22, 2012 07:49 PM (he2LC)

641 384Okay I am crazy.
I am going to start a 3-hour recipe.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 11:21 PM (d/5qf)

------How cool!.....

Posted by: concrete girl at October 22, 2012 07:49 PM (y2Ojs)

642 Posted by: boulder hobo at October 22, 2012 11:45 PM (QTHTd)

Did you ever answer my question? If not I'll repeat it just in case you forgot. Do you have a problem with atheists taking pictures of minsters' homes and putting them in a documentary?

Posted by: Adam at October 22, 2012 07:49 PM (/YJYi)

643 Also, day walkers? Really? What if you post at night and during the day?

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 11:46 PM (rXiA3)

That's a condition that is sometimes referred to as, "clinically insane".

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2012 07:49 PM (BuSM8)

644 622. Yep

Posted by: Scanner Dan at October 22, 2012 07:49 PM (Woucd)

645 I was hanging in my favorite guitar store tonight shooting the shit with some of the regulars. Some chick came in to look at a guitar, and her friend made a comment about having to run home and watch the debates, and they started talking about the women vote, and of course one was clearly an obama drone. She was talking about the whole fucking contraceptive thing, and was just one big typical leftist asshole talking point. I finally looked over and said "you want the government to get involved in your birth control ? What are you, fucking cats?"

Needless to say the look was pretty priceless.

Posted by: Berserker at October 22, 2012 07:49 PM (FMbng)

646 It's like Time Travel here tonight. Bayonets, Long Bows, religious wars...more please.

Posted by: Oliver Cromwell at October 22, 2012 07:49 PM (Q2wni)

647 "Obama wins by a landslide in kids' online election Nickelodeon's Linda Ellerbee said Monday that the president captured 65 percent of the vote to beat Republican Mitt Romney in the network's "Kids Pick the President" vote." Kids are stupid. That's why they need parents. Sorry to those of you who have kids, but 'rons and 'ronettes are smart enough to not give a rat's butt what a bunch of 10 year olds think about politics.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 22, 2012 07:49 PM (jLiVY)

648 FUCK
Lions TD

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2012 07:49 PM (hO9ad)

649 621 Well, tonight we saw a future president and a sub-retard with a kindergarten world view debate. GO ROMNEY this

Posted by: Stacy at October 22, 2012 07:49 PM (bKOZG)

650 Also, day walkers? Really? What if you post at night and during the day? Top Ten Commenters *hangs head*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:50 PM (GEICT)

651 cliqueish? is that in the same way that the hooker on the corner of my block is cliqueish in demanding cash before we go for a roll in the alley?

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 07:50 PM (Z9EHQ)

652 Since Obama copied Buish's foreign policy and only made it marginally worse, its hard to win on foreign policy. Nobody going into Syria because they have chemical weapons. Nobody's going to seriously attack Iran except maybe Israel, because it won't really harm their program. We'd need a punitive expedition and that would be a hard, hard sell.

Posted by: Sexypig at October 22, 2012 07:50 PM (jwHX3)

653 The sluttiest girls I have EVER come across came from the church youth group. True Story. The preachers kid also partied harder than any burnout that I knew in High School.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 22, 2012 07:50 PM (jucos)

654 >Ace just retweeted this from CNN:

what tweet Handle is ace using at the moment?

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:50 PM (8sCoq)

655 Romney knows he is winning & stayed out of the streetfight that Fuckstain wanted because he is behind & Romney KILLED with I's

Posted by: Evilpens at October 22, 2012 07:50 PM (ck76k)

656 Jim Belushi in the red cap

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:50 PM (8sCoq)

657

uggggh

up to the onside

Posted by: navycopjoe has an iphone5 and you don't at October 22, 2012 07:50 PM (xsTuT)

658

Obama wins on points, Mitt wins the election. I'm down with that.

Posted by: joanne still likes Trey Gowdys hair and tude at October 22, 2012 07:51 PM (VNFBf)

659 NumbersMuncher ‏@NumbersMuncher

PPP post-debate INDYs only key stat:
Â“More/less likely to vote after debateÂ” Â–
Obama 32 more/48 less.
Romney 47 more/35 less.

Thats all she wrote folks.

Thats why Romney did it the way he did it tonight.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 22, 2012 07:51 PM (ovpNn)

660 Keep your Fing longbows I'll take a Ma Deuce. Oh and maybe a couple of Marines to protect my candy ass.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 22, 2012 07:51 PM (DbhrR)

661 From twitter.

CNN poll of debate watchers: Who did debate make you more likely to vote for? Obama 24%, Romney 25%, Neither 50%.

PPP post-debate INDYs only key stat: "More/less likely to vote after debate" - Obama 32 more/48 less. Romney 47 more/35 less.

So how did Obama win?

Posted by: lowandslow at October 22, 2012 07:51 PM (GZitp)

662 I would not have minded this Lions TD if it was Calvin who scored it.

Posted by: logprof at October 22, 2012 07:51 PM (jKE+Z)

663 Jon Gruden on the upcoming onside kick attempt by the Lions: "This is a pivotal play." No kidding.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 22, 2012 07:51 PM (IuzqV)

664 Vat Iz Diz? Olga deed not luk lik diz in '42! I lik diz nu soviet ladiz! Achtung!! Achtung!!

Posted by: Some dead NAZI rolling in his grave at October 22, 2012 07:51 PM (H7jIA)

665 Romney's strategy was smart. Men were watching sports. Heavy female audience. Romney's entire debate strategy was vagina-focused. Hey ladies -- I won't start another war. Promise.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2012 07:51 PM (ZPrif)

666 Chicago area morons - we're going to party on election night. We've got the place, check the Yahoo Ace of Spades member board page for the details.

Posted by: Sassy at October 22, 2012 07:52 PM (detCI)

667 I tried to watch the debate but the SCOAMF started talking and then he made these faces when Romney was talking that made me turn off the TV. Then I got a call from the girlfriend. She stopped in Amarillo. 5 hours and 49 minutes away now. So: Job - Check Family - Check Happy - Check If we can do this during the time of the SCOAMF, what will it be like with a real President?

Posted by: Hobo Cookbook-Deserts Edition-Get My Blow Torch Sookie at October 22, 2012 07:52 PM (MG6Y6)

668 PPP(D) (-DKOS/SEIU) poll,
Romney +12 with indies
Obama -16

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 22, 2012 07:52 PM (ovpNn)

669 Catholic girls? Trust me, you do NOT want to fuck with us. Or our dadsters. Maybe that's just me . . .

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 07:52 PM (kpCLl)

670 Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 11:50 PM (GEICT) Lol!

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 07:52 PM (rXiA3)

671 "Who do the Dems have? Hoyer, Frankin, Reid, Cummings, WAXMAN ..... need I go on? Posted by: joanne still likes Trey Gowdys hair and tud" Every time I see a picture of Waxman I think about the pigboy in that hospital episode of Seinfeld. Squeal, squeal, squeeeal. They should have just hired Waxman to play the part.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 22, 2012 07:52 PM (jLiVY)

672 @607 be careful. folks around here get *really* touchy when you bring up any blatantly hypocritical double-standards. don't you know that only the media ever engages in any sort of hypocrisy?

Posted by: jimi ray at October 22, 2012 07:52 PM (79EF9)

673 Elizabethe, are you trying to tell us that you go both ways?

Go on.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 07:52 PM (Gk3SS)

674 Well, for once I'm glad my phone refreshed to the middle of the thread. Why? Because I saw... teej, I was thinking how happy you must be with the K-State win. Thanks Alextc. You know what makes it even better? That you thought about me when it happened. Well me... and the Awesomeness...That is...Collin Klein. Our chance to play Bama or Florida for the national title remains alive.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 22, 2012 07:52 PM (GX2fm)

675 643 I was hanging in my favorite guitar store tonight shooting the shit with some of the regulars. Some chick came in to look at a guitar, and her friend made a comment about having to run home and watch the debates, and they started talking about the women vote, and of course one was clearly an obama drone. She was talking about the whole fucking contraceptive thing, and was just one big typical leftist asshole talking point. I finally looked over and said "you want the government to get involved in your birth control ? What are you, fucking cats?"

Needless to say the look was pretty priceless.

Posted by: Berserker at October 22, 2012 11:49 PM

I wanna know why the hell she was looking at a guitar.

Posted by: otho at October 22, 2012 07:52 PM (yBF/9)

676 This chicago native translated to the bay area is pretty happy tonight.

Posted by: California red at October 22, 2012 07:52 PM (DXTKe)

677 Cameron Hughes Meritage, lot 365 Yum. Unless trivia time, "Meritage" is not pronounced mer-uh-taghe with a French accent. It's a combo of American & heritage, so it rhymes with heritage.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 07:52 PM (4QAQg)

678 612 Mormons are really nice. That is how they suck you in.

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain

The ex-Mormons call it "love bombing." I'm a personal fan of Ex-Mormon.org, even if I shouldn't be. The "garmies" discussions alone will keep you in stitches for a week.

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 07:53 PM (mKMj1)

679

BEARS WIN!!!!!!!!!

BEARS WIN!!!!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe has an iphone5 and you don't at October 22, 2012 07:53 PM (xsTuT)

680 @665 Thats why we kept hearing all the Wimmens references.

Posted by: Jimi at October 22, 2012 07:53 PM (6sLo8)

681 Journalism 101 -- Flip off the Fox News camera. It demonstrates your overwhelming intelligence and collegiate training. Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 22, 2012 11:49 PM (0It32) And the Mediate commenters predictably robotically condemn Fox viewers as "drones," in lockstep and without thinking. It would be nice to find the scruffy shit and have a nice Fox news story on him, his job, and his twitter history.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 07:53 PM (bxiXv)

682 Cuba is an interesting case study.
***
Had Castro decided to be Washington instead of Lenin, Cuba would like be the most one of the most important, and wealthy, countries in the Western hemisphere.

But instead of being, essentially, the country of Las Vegas with the agricultural power of Florida, we have a ruined third world despotism that can barely leverage its agricultural advantages to even feed its own people.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2012 07:53 PM (AUeaU)

683

Oh, I agree that cats are evil.

-----Cats, Dogs, Horses, Kids are all the same...you raise them like you want them to turn out and they will. IOW, if they need a spanking, give it to them!

Posted by: concrete girl at October 22, 2012 07:53 PM (y2Ojs)

684 Peaches!

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 07:53 PM (Z9EHQ)

685 Well, fuckity, I was gonna skip this and go to bed, but I will be damned if I will be considered non-clique. Le clique, c'est moi. Bitchez.

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 11:47 PM (kpCLl)

See!
The Fighting Words!!!eleventy!!

Posted by: daVE at October 22, 2012 07:53 PM (hO9ad)

686 Well, that's it. Debates are over, now it's GOTV and ads. Whew. Into the home stretch.

Posted by: relieved at October 22, 2012 07:54 PM (Q2wni)

687 563 Heh, I saw two guys sawing the rack off a roadkill buck just outside of San Antonio on I-10.

Posted by: no good deed at October 22, 2012 07:54 PM (mjR67)

688 Romney fucked obama while he wasnt looking tonight.

Obama is wondering why his ass is sore tomorrow.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 22, 2012 07:54 PM (ovpNn)

689

669 Catholic girls? Trust me, you do NOT want to fuck with us. Or our dadsters

is my daughter posting?

Posted by: navycopjoe has an iphone5 and you don't at October 22, 2012 07:54 PM (xsTuT)

690 Da Bears!

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 07:55 PM (kpCLl)

691 674 Elizabethe, are you trying to tell us that you go both ways? Go on. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 11:52 PM (Gk3SS) Thanks, I just choked on my peanut butter snickers.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:55 PM (GEICT)

692 Mormons. I live in Park City. I saw a dude pick up a panther and load it in his trunk to prevent someone else from desecrating it. Point is Mormons = hippies without the smell and lack of jobs.

Posted by: SteveB at October 22, 2012 07:55 PM (+wK5w)

693 jimi ray, just go away

you are not getting thru, you understand?

no, of course you don't

Posted by: kinlaw at October 22, 2012 07:55 PM (uLTng)

694 So how did Obama win?Posted by: lowandslow

The volume of monkeyhoots emanating from dorm-rooms and pot-houses.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 22, 2012 07:55 PM (DKxu1)

695 Scarlett Johansson
http://tinyurl.com/8vtejoo

Posted by: Jamie at October 22, 2012 07:55 PM (4ckuD)

696 The sluttiest girls I have EVER come across came from the church youth group. True Story. The preachers kid also partied harder than any burnout that I knew in High School.
********************

I need to go back to church again. Wonder if I'd look out of place in a youth group now since I'm slightly older now than I was a few years ago.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 07:55 PM (+AV7H)

697 Romney's strategy was smart. Men were watching sports. Heavy female audience.

Hilariously, the HQ debate night sports thread was inhabited pretty much solely by girls talking sports. Because we're better.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 07:55 PM (Gk3SS)

698 Romney went Balls Deep on the Economy tonight

Posted by: Jimi at October 22, 2012 07:55 PM (6sLo8)

699 Obama wins by a landslide in kids' online election The incumbent Lord of Everything only got 65%?! Clinton must have gotten 140% against Bob Dole.

Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2012 07:55 PM (FcR7P)

700 With any luck this will be the last of the hissing esses I will EVER have to listen to. Cannot stomach another JEF speech.

Posted by: kawfytawk at October 22, 2012 07:55 PM (JWLqy)

701 674 Elizabethe, are you trying to tell us that you go both ways? Go on. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 11:52 PM (Gk3SS) oh please say yes and send me photos.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 07:56 PM (Z9EHQ)

702

Catholic School Girls?

brb

Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2012 07:56 PM (v7qJe)

703 Love every single most of you here.

Posted by: sifty at October 22, 2012 07:56 PM (p39GY)

704 Oh, I agree that cats are evil.

Who said that??? Because, DIE!!!!

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 07:56 PM (kpCLl)

705 I would say something bad about Manitoba, yes just out of cussedness, except that is where Joni came from. Gotta love a girl who escapes and writes Blue Boy and dozens others so good ... (in this version you can hear the needle scratch in the grooves and not too much gain) ... http://tinyurl.com/8sz4kgn

Posted by: and irresolute at October 22, 2012 07:56 PM (DBH1h)

706

ONT clique edition? I guess I'd better get in on this, then.

I think Romney sunk Obama's battleship tonight. I'm just wondering what silly little thing SCoaMF is going to jump on to run with for the next week.

Posted by: Theresa 4 Romney/Ryan at October 22, 2012 07:56 PM (FDErx)

707

So how did Obama win?Posted by: lowandslow

Because shut up, that's how.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 07:56 PM (1zwZo)

708 Peaches! You here to start some shit so all the brain dead Ron's can rush to your defense and curb stomp the poor innocent poster that spoke truth to power in disagreeing with you?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:57 PM (GEICT)

709 I certainly have never acted hypocritically. I'm all about getting along until someone says something I don't like. Then I have a nervous breakdown while insulting people about being condescending while I'm being condescending. My rants and breakdowns happen pretty regularly but I'll never leave because I love this place!

Posted by: jimi ray at October 22, 2012 07:57 PM (5++4c)

710 oh please say yes and send me photos.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 11:56 PM (Z9EHQ)

Okay, so the craven, underutilized married man constituency has spoken. :roll"

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 07:57 PM (kpCLl)

711 I am too far away to check anymore, but I bet the eternal flame on Ronald Reagan's tomb is burning a little brighter tonight.

Posted by: sifty at October 22, 2012 07:57 PM (p39GY)

712 @671 Waxman bears an uncanny resemblance to Lon Chaney in Phantom of the Opera.

Posted by: exposed nostrils at October 22, 2012 07:57 PM (Q2wni)

713 Sifty! Are you having a great birthday?

Posted by: Theresa 4 Romney/Ryan at October 22, 2012 07:57 PM (FDErx)

714 Juan Williams proving again he is an AA hire. Where is dumb fuck Colmes?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 07:57 PM (wR+pz)

715 Obama is wondering why his ass is sore tomorrow.
___
Dammit Mitt, even Kal knows to use lube and that guy is an idiot.

He does have his moments of course (golf ball through a garden hose!)

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 22, 2012 07:57 PM (AUeaU)

716

Well I think obama really schooled Romney with that whole "ships that go underwater" thing. Oooo burn.

That`s why the French navy has glass bottom ships. They see the rest of the fleet.

Posted by: rightlysouthern (aim low boys, theys ridin ponies) at October 22, 2012 07:57 PM (jw8c0)

717 Thanks, I just choked on my peanut butter snickers.

You know better than to eat and/or drink whilst reading the comments.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 07:57 PM (Gk3SS)

718 oops, i meant,

that fucking debate wasn't even nearly worth the hangover I will have to fake my way through work with tomorrow. spits

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 07:58 PM (kpCLl)

719 Nobody's going to seriously attack Iran except maybe Israel, because it won't really harm their program. We'd need a punitive expedition and that would be a hard, hard sell.

Unfortunately that means Iran won't be dealt with until an Iranian nuke or ten have been used.

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2012 07:58 PM (hO9ad)

720 Juanita going full Corky

Posted by: Jimi at October 22, 2012 07:58 PM (6sLo8)

721 With any luck this will be the last of the hissing esses I will EVER have to listen to. Cannot stomach another JEF speech. Posted by: kawfytawk at October 22, 2012 11:55 PM (JWLqy) Bets on whether JugEars even ATTENDS Mittnaguration, much less introduces the new President?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 22, 2012 07:58 PM (Rhie+)

722 Juan Williams reminding me for the kabillionth time why he's a dick

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 07:59 PM (8sCoq)

723 Peaches! You here to start some shit so all the brain dead Ron's can rush to your defense and curb stomp the poor innocent poster that spoke truth to power in disagreeing with you?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 11:57 PM (GEICT)

Uh, no, that's very sweet, but I can handle my own fun times.

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 07:59 PM (kpCLl)

724 Hilariously, the HQ debate night sports thread was inhabited pretty much solely by girls talking sports. Because we're better. Of course you Ettes are better. It's science. And boobs.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 07:59 PM (GEICT)

725 I wanna know why the hell she was looking at a guitar.

Posted by: otho at October 22, 2012 11:52 PM

Don't every hippy chick need as guitar so they can write self important whiney hippy songs?

Posted by: Berserker at October 22, 2012 07:59 PM (FMbng)

726 Juan Williams is a fucking retard. Why did anyone defend this prick in the first place?

Posted by: Uncle Mikey at October 22, 2012 07:59 PM (8qoXL)

727 Elizabethe, are you trying to tell us that you go both ways? Posted by: kinlaw at October 22, 2012 11:48 PM (uLTng Wow you guys can make anything smutty. That's a real reach. Not a reach around... Just a reach.

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 07:59 PM (rXiA3)

728 Juan Williams reminding me for the kabillionth time why he's a dick

A hilariously tiny one!!!

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 07:59 PM (kpCLl)

729 You Catholic girls start much too late.
Sooner or later it comes down to fate.
I might as well be the one.

Posted by: Billy Joel at October 22, 2012 07:59 PM (B/yDO)

730 I'm half tempted to declare my house open to Morons election evening. Even though I think asking everyone to traipse to San Jose is insane.

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 07:59 PM (mKMj1)

731 So, atheists who don't want the Christian religion in the public square are "militants". *** Yep. If you don't like to see Christian symbols, ideas, and traditions in our Christian country, move. In American you have freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. Interestingly the left makes a similar error when it comes to freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and the right of assembly. Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2012 11:49 PM (AUeaU) The USA is not a Christian country, but it does have a large Christian population and a strong Christian tradition. Atheists like Dawkins are doing these things because they want religion to be replaced with something else. They seek to undermine religion. They see tax-exempt status for religious institutions as unjustified and discriminatory. It is neither. Tax-exempt status for religious institutions protects all of us from a state religion being formed. Religious activity is not economic activity and government should leave it tax free. Dawkins like many other Atheists is hostile to religion, not merely a disbeliever. The Goddess Irony sighs whenever we speak of him. So sad.

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 07:59 PM (+XD7n)

732 Heh, I loves me some Peaches. Even though I bet we would disagree on a whole raft of social issues. But I'm apparently just some mindless moron drone.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 08:00 PM (1zwZo)

733 Well, it's nice to see the usual suspects starting shit. As opposed to, you know, everybody.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 08:00 PM (bxiXv)

734 sifty!

Posted by: fluffy at October 22, 2012 08:00 PM (z9HTb)

735 Bets on whether JugEars even ATTENDS Mittnaguration, much less introduces the new President? Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 22, 2012 11:58 PM (Rhie+) ___________________ He'll be there. It's Michelle I'm wondering about.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 22, 2012 08:00 PM (IuzqV)

736 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 11:53 PM

Yup, I was looking for something like that in the comments, and suffered through them with no luck. The clown is probably tweeting his victory lap, but I'm not that energetic to look for it.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 22, 2012 08:00 PM (0It32)

737 Bets on whether JugEars even ATTENDS Mittnaguration, much less introduces the new President? Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 22, 2012 11:58 PM (Rhie+) I will put money on.... no....Moochelle said they have a big party planned for the day after the election.

Posted by: kawfytawk at October 22, 2012 08:00 PM (JWLqy)

738 >Juan Williams proving again he is an AA hire. Where is dumb fuck Colmes?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 22, 2012 11:57 PM (wR+pz)

You never go full retard on debate night

Posted by: Fox News producer at October 22, 2012 08:00 PM (8sCoq)

739 682 Cuba is an interesting case study. *** Had Castro decided to be Washington instead of Lenin, Cuba would like be the most one of the most important, and wealthy, countries in the Western hemisphere. pre Castro, Cuba was the third wealthiest nation in the western hemisphere

Posted by: Avi at October 22, 2012 08:00 PM (51xVX)

740 Truth:

Obama = Philadelphia Eagles
Romney = New York Giants

One guy always wins head to head, but the other guy wins the only thing that matters

Posted by: The Q at October 22, 2012 08:00 PM (B/yDO)

741 716 You know better than to eat and/or drink whilst reading the comments. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 11:57 PM (Gk3SS) Yeah, but....Peanut Butter Snickers.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 08:00 PM (GEICT)

742 I'm half tempted to declare my house open to Morons election evening. Even though I think asking everyone to traipse to San Jose is insane.

I'll send my brother, Solo Basura, over. He lives up that way.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 22, 2012 08:00 PM (xKC/c)

743 HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SIFTY!!!! Here, have a cookie and a beer.

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 08:01 PM (kpCLl)

744 I'm just wondering what silly little thing SCoaMF is going to jump on to run with for the next week.
***********************

ROMNESIA!

Posted by: Obama Campaign '12 at October 22, 2012 08:01 PM (+AV7H)

745 >He'll be there. It's Michelle I'm wondering about.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 23, 2012 12:00 AM (IuzqV)

if there's a buffet after, she'll be there

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 08:01 PM (8sCoq)

746 @634 "...in our Christian country" there's no doubt that most americans hold to some sort of christian religion. that doesn't make a country whose whole provenance was an attempted escape from state-sponsored religion in the first place a "xtian country". the founders would be turning over in their graves...if their graves had been wired >.>...at the notion that america is a "xtian country". it's supposed to be an agnostic government...it was designed that way on purpose! ~.~ i don't believe, and honestly i really don't have any problem with religious symbols or other reflections of citizens' beliefs. that being said, it's pretty illogical to call atheists who desire to promote their own (lack of) religious dogma any more militant than the religious folks, be they jewish, islamic, or xtian, who are busy using public roads and property to promote their own often differing interpretations of thousand-year-old scriptures.

Posted by: jimi ray at October 22, 2012 08:01 PM (79EF9)

747 No way is that Russian chick's hair that color naturally.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at October 22, 2012 08:01 PM (DoZD+)

748 730 But I know the way and everything.

Posted by: no good deed at October 22, 2012 08:01 PM (mjR67)

749 Halle Berry is on Leno right now. Like a screen door in a hurrcane!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 22, 2012 08:01 PM (jucos)

750 Wow you guys can make anything smutty. That's a real reach. Not a reach around... Just a reach. Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 11:59 PM (rXiA3) Now you're getting the hang of it!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 08:02 PM (bxiXv)

751 I'm insulted that someone compared Obama to the Eagles. Vick, yes, but not my beloved Iggles.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 08:02 PM (1zwZo)

752 Subject: Hey

Friend --

This is in your hands now.

Chip in $5 or more, and let's go win:

Thanks,
Barack

So, even the election is in someone else's hands.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2012 08:02 PM (piMMO)

753 I wonder if Obama has watched the new series "Last Resort?"......It's about a ship that goes under the water.

Posted by: kawfytawk at October 22, 2012 08:02 PM (JWLqy)

754

I did not watch the debate, but followed it on the Twitter. I watched the boring Lions/Bears gme instead. Didn't have a favorite in the football game, just wanted it to be a good game. It wasn't. Unless you're a Bears fan, I guess.

I am so fucking sick and tired of seeing Obama on TV and hearing him drone on that I've refused to watch any of the debates. Following it through others is much, much better on my mood.

Posted by: Theresa 4 Romney/Ryan at October 22, 2012 08:02 PM (FDErx)

755 @619 Is that you, Father Crank??!!!!

Posted by: joanne still likes Trey Gowdys hair and tude at October 22, 2012 08:03 PM (VNFBf)

756 747 No way is that Russian chick's hair that color naturally. Posted by: katya the designated driver at October 23, 2012 12:01 AM (DoZD+) I bet we can get a lot of volunteers to find out.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 08:03 PM (GEICT)

757 732 Heh, I loves me some Peaches. Even though I bet we would disagree on a whole raft of social issues. But I'm apparently just some mindless moron drone.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 23, 2012 12:00 AM (1zwZo)

No, no, no. I loves me some Conservative Crank and, if you found yourself on my lawn, I would not turn on the sprinklers. mwah!!! really, mwah!

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 08:03 PM (kpCLl)

758 Okay, so the craven, underutilized married man constituency has spoken. :roll" Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 11:57 PM (kpCLl) girlfirend I have been at my desk nearly 100 hrs a week for five week. anything I get is coming over fiber, which coincidenetally is now a large par .

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 08:03 PM (Z9EHQ)

759 723 Peaches! You here to start some shit so all the brain dead Ron's can rush to your defense and curb stomp the poor innocent poster that spoke truth to power in disagreeing with you? Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 11:57 PM (GEICT) Uh, no, that's very sweet, but I can handle my own fun times. Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 11:59 PM (kpCLl) Not to take anything away from peaches who is awesome and can take whomever she wishes, but I'm pretty sure that dude last night was talking about Dianna.

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 08:03 PM (rXiA3)

760 that doesn't make a country whose whole provenance was an attempted escape from state-sponsored religion in the first place a "xtian country". the founders would be turning over in their graves...if their graves had been wired >.>...at the notion that america is a "xtian country". it's supposed to be an agnostic government...it was designed that way on purpose! ~.~ i don't believe, and honestly i really don't have any problem with religious symbols or other reflections of citizens' beliefs. that being said, it's pretty illogical to call atheists who desire to promote their own (lack of) religious dogma any more militant than the religious folks, be they jewish, islamic, or xtian, who are busy using public roads and property to promote their own often differing interpretations of thousand-year-old scriptures. Posted by: jimi ray at October 23, 2012 12:01 AM (79EF9) Its pretty funny that by replacing Christ with an X, you are following a 2000 year old Christian tradition, formed during the Roman persecutions.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 22, 2012 08:03 PM (rzSn3)

761 Obama be playing checkers, Mitt be playing chess.

The hilarious thing will be watching the liberal's heads implode when they try to fathom how another Obama debate "win" actually strengthened Romney's momentum in the final two weeks. How? HOW? He won the debate!1111

Because pandering to your dwindling base instead of undecided voters/independents is what wins elections, doncha know?

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 08:04 PM (+AV7H)

762 Yet ironically, only Mormons go to Heaven in the SP world. That's part of what I love about SP, that and the jokes aren't derived from manatees picking word-balls out of a pile...

Posted by: Kratos at October 22, 2012 11:46 PM (5Vuz/)

No remember, God needed to wave that restriction because of Satan's plans to attack heaven. He needed the additional souls so that their Keanu Reeves, Kenny, could defeat the armies of hell with the golden psp.

Posted by: buzzion at October 22, 2012 08:04 PM (GULKT)

763 @746 Dude...set down the Bong and explain "UnAlienable Rights," & "In God We Trust" America is Christian Nation because of the population not the Founding Documents....Jeeez

Posted by: Jimi at October 22, 2012 08:04 PM (6sLo8)

764 About bacon-my son has recently begun working at a local hog farm. Not so bad he says, but his appetite has kind of waned for items such as pork chops and ham. What about bacon, I asked. Mom, nothing could affect my appetite for bacon, he says.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at October 22, 2012 08:04 PM (DoZD+)

765 725 Don't every hippy chick need as guitar so they can write self important whiney hippy songs?

Posted by: Berserker at October 22, 2012 11:59 PM

Ah, yes. That's true. I'd forgotten that. A-C-D, flowers, clouds and whatnot. Thought maybe she was buying one for her boyfriend, or something, but that makes sense.

Posted by: otho at October 22, 2012 08:05 PM (yBF/9)

766

The Crank is Lutheran, and loves nothing more than mocking (gently) the Catholics.

Peaches, I wasn't directing that comment at you, more at a certain pot-stirrer with capitalization issues

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 08:05 PM (1zwZo)

767 Not to take anything away from peaches who is awesome and can take whomever she wishes, but I'm pretty sure that dude last night was talking about Dianna. I've seen half a dozen commenters today say it was Peaches. And a DM on twitter saying the same. *shrugs* Not that it really matters.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 08:05 PM (GEICT)

768 Okay, this is funny - http://onion.com/UudV0j

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 22, 2012 08:05 PM (Gk3SS)

769 Not to take anything away from peaches who is awesome and can take whomever she wishes, but I'm pretty sure that dude last night was talking about Dianna.

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 23, 2012 12:03 AM (rXiA3)

Yeah, I have not been embroiled in controversy since Friday night, post mammogram. It's just not my thing. Mostly because I just don't give a shit, lol.

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 08:05 PM (kpCLl)

770 I am so fucking sick and tired of seeing Obama on TV and hearing him drone on that I've refused to watch any of the debates. Following it through others is much, much better on my mood.

Posted by: Theresa 4 Romney/Ryan at October 23, 2012 12:02 AM (FDErx)

Yep, if he wins again, no more tv. As he is on every channel now, can you imagine another four years.

Posted by: lou's a girl at October 22, 2012 08:05 PM (2Nzn8)

771 Wow you guys can make anything smutty. That's a real reach. Not a reach around... Just a reach. Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 11:59 PM (rXiA3) Now you're getting the hang of it! Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 23, 2012 12:02 AM (bxiXv) Lol, I love you guys. This blog makes me so happy. I currently hang out with people who have no sense of humor.

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 08:05 PM (rXiA3)

772 I bet when you were called a slut, you were simply crushed.
No, she was flattered.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 22, 2012 08:05 PM (vDl/w)

773 Mess with Peaches at you own risk. Do not start something you are not able to finish. I once saw Peaches shoot a man just for snoring, he deserved it, all the same caveat moron.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 08:06 PM (Z9EHQ)

774 Hilariously, the HQ debate night sports thread was inhabited pretty much solely by girls talking sports. Because we're better.

****

Well, it certainly seems he gals are paying more attention to the weekly fantasy lineups.

Surprising number of morons failed to update their roster this week.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2012 08:06 PM (piMMO)

775 who are busy using public roads and property to promote their own often differing interpretations of thousand-year-old scriptures.>>

Oh crap Elizabeth Warren posts on the ONT.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 22, 2012 08:06 PM (DbhrR)

776
that doesn't make a country whose whole provenance was an attempted escape from state-sponsored religion in the first place a "xtian country". the founders would be turning over in their grave
___
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

Posted by: John Adams at October 22, 2012 08:06 PM (AUeaU)

777 Lol, I love you guys. This blog makes me so happy. I currently hang out with people who have no sense of humor. Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 23, 2012 12:05 AM (rXiA3) see, not even close to cliqueish, only filthy and depraved

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 08:06 PM (Z9EHQ)

778 I hate cats mainly because I can't breathe when in their presence. If they didn't interfere with my oxygen supply I probably would be ok with them. But they declared war on me first. I think I'm being pretty magnanimous by just leaving them alone. And it's been several times that a lady brought me back to her place for some pancakes only to find her apartment had the conniving oxygen thieves, forcing me to choose between sexy times and breathing.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2012 08:07 PM (ZPrif)

779 The drama was played out over 2 nights, and I stand by my conclusion that he was talking about Peaches. Dianna, I don't know as well, but I have no problem being a chivalrous drone on her behalf either based on what I've read of her so far.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 08:07 PM (1zwZo)

780 Peaches !!!! This grumpy momma bear lives to read your comments !!!!! Keep em coming !!!!!!!God Bless You Girl !!!!!!!!

Posted by: grumpy momma bear at October 22, 2012 08:07 PM (IKR24)

781 @772 What do you have n-dem Brownies? The Good Stuff?

Posted by: Jimi at October 22, 2012 08:07 PM (6sLo8)

782 Hilariously, the HQ debate night sports thread was inhabited pretty much solely by girls talking sports. Because we're better. **** Well, it certainly seems he gals are paying more attention to the weekly fantasy lineups. Surprising number of morons failed to update their roster this week. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 23, 2012 12:06 AM (piMMO) how long are you able to discuss unifoms and color palates?

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 08:07 PM (Z9EHQ)

783 Speaking of bayonets and Obama... see the sock.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 22, 2012 08:08 PM (vDl/w)

784 @731 a well-informed and reasonable approach. kudos! i'd be quick to agree that folks like dawkins and lawrence krauss, who can't seem to get through a single scientific lecture without getting in some irrelevant dig at religion, make fools of themselves with their crusade against religious beliefs that don't really even affect them. it's hard for me to take scientists like that seriously when they couch their positions in some sort of "intellectual legitimacy", when it's clear that a firm decision on the question of whether god exists requires faith *either way*.

Posted by: jimi ray at October 22, 2012 08:08 PM (79EF9)

785 The Crank is Lutheran, and loves nothing more than mocking (gently) the Catholics.
Peaches, I wasn't directing that comment at you, more at a certain pot-stirrer with capitalization issues

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 23, 2012 12:05 AM (1zwZo)

I am all down with the Godless and soon-to-be-extinct protestants, CC. In fact, on the social issues, I mostly caucus with the libertarians.

Don't taze me, bro!

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 08:08 PM (kpCLl)

786

Hi, Lou! Ain't that the truth!

Hey, nice win for the Raiders last Sunday! And my sad@ss Cowboys won, too, with help, I understand, from some replacement refs. Well, maybe they weren't the replacements, but I'm told they made some hellacious calls in the 'Boys' favor.

Posted by: Theresa 4 Romney/Ryan at October 22, 2012 08:08 PM (FDErx)

787 but I'm pretty sure that dude last night was talking about Dianna. Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition

Nah, I was just a target of opportunity. I'm sure it was quite enjoyable, too. There's nothing more fun than jumping on someone who was simply confused as hell.

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 08:08 PM (mKMj1)

788 And you are most welcome in our Great State of Texas !!!!!!!!

Posted by: grumpy momma bear at October 22, 2012 08:08 PM (IKR24)

789

Bets on whether JugEars even ATTENDS Mittnaguration, much less introduces the new President?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 22, 2012 11:58 PM (Rhie+)

I want that ass to have to stand there and take it, right there where he gave W the fuck you. And to see the look on the moochs` face.

Posted by: rightlysouthern (aim low boys, theys ridin ponies) at October 22, 2012 08:09 PM (jw8c0)

790 how long are you able to discuss uniforms and color palates?

They don't call it "color commentary" for nothing.

Posted by: no good deed at October 22, 2012 08:09 PM (mjR67)

791 768 Okay, this is funny - http://onion.com/UudV0j Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 23, 2012 12:05 AM (Gk3SS) I just looked through the stuff on their front page. I totally remember when they were really funny, or at least I *think* I do.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 08:09 PM (bxiXv)

792 Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 23, 2012 12:05 AM (GEICT) No it doesn't matter. But last night after dianna responded to him, he posted something that was clearly referring to what she said, after peaches had left. My general policy is to ignore people like that. Life's too short.

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 08:09 PM (rXiA3)

793
that doesn't make a country whose whole provenance was an attempted escape from state-sponsored religion in the first place a "xtian country". the founders would be turning over in their graves
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Posted by: George Washington at October 22, 2012 08:09 PM (AUeaU)

794 {{{{{ grumpy momma bear }}}}}

thank you, that was really sweet . . .

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 08:09 PM (kpCLl)

795 Hilariously, the HQ debate night sports thread was inhabited pretty much solely by girls talking sports. Because we're better.
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AOSHQ: Where moronettes talk about sports, and the morons fap furiously over the moronettes talking about sports.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Teams Up With Mitt Romney's Hair to Defeat SCOAMF at October 22, 2012 08:09 PM (+AV7H)

796 speaking of bayonets, I hear obama has a mean sword swallowing routine he plans to take on the road in january.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 08:09 PM (Z9EHQ)

797 "The Russians are white people, without Western Civilizational values." Russians are mostly white, part Tatar. Posted by: JB at October 22, 2012 11:34 PM (xVcWj) The Russian people are matrilinearly white, but patrilinearly a comination of all the nomads that raped their great-grandmas.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 08:09 PM (sZTYJ)

798 I think he was talking about peaches, the guy who gave her shit the other night when she was essentially joking around about mammograms showed up last night and continued to be perpetually offended. Given DAve's responses to him, it sounded like he was referencing what happened Friday night.

Posted by: Adam at October 22, 2012 08:09 PM (/YJYi)

799 Nah, I was just a target of opportunity. I'm sure it was quite enjoyable, too. There's nothing more fun than jumping on someone who was simply confused as hell. That is the Moron way. Wait. I don't think we're talking about the same thing...

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 08:10 PM (GEICT)

800 All this hand-wringing by the Dems on Iran. If Israel and the U.S. decide Iran has reached the red line, the whole thing will be over in like twenty four hours. We'll just take the shit out with some targeted strikes and be done with it, everyone will wonder afterwords what all the worry was about.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 22, 2012 08:10 PM (GZitp)

801 wine and Tylenol pm has kicked in.....didn't actually mean to mix it bit oh well...whats done is done....please highlight all the good stuff so I can read it in the morning. nite rons and ettes

Posted by: kawfytawk at October 22, 2012 08:10 PM (JWLqy)

802 OK, I'm out tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 22, 2012 08:10 PM (JMmQ9)

803 Posted by: Dianna at October 23, 2012 12:08 AM (mKMj1) Ok, if you say so.

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 08:11 PM (rXiA3)

804

that being said, it's pretty illogical to call atheists who desire to promote their own (lack of) religious dogma any more militant than the religious folks, be they jewish, islamic, or xtian, who are busy using public roads and property to promote their own often differing interpretations of thousand-year-old scriptures.

I'd rather spend a week with an evangelical family, than a day with a militant atheist.

I'd hear about God a whole lot less.

Posted by: buzzion at October 22, 2012 08:11 PM (GULKT)

805 You go girl !!!!!!!

Posted by: grumpy momma bear at October 22, 2012 08:11 PM (IKR24)

806 O.k.....Uncle!

Posted by: Jimi at October 22, 2012 08:11 PM (6sLo8)

807 I want that ass to have to stand there and take it, right there where he gave W the fuck you. And to see the look on the moochs` face. Posted by: rightlysouthern (aim low boys, theys ridin ponies) at October 23, 2012 12:09 AM (jw8c0) I think you are describing their date nights.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 08:11 PM (Z9EHQ)

808 Wow you guys can make anything smutty. That's a real reach.

Not a reach around... Just a reach.
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I think you've flicked the switch on here.

Posted by: Some Moron at October 22, 2012 08:11 PM (AUeaU)

809 Buzz!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 08:11 PM (kpCLl)

810 Ciao Alton!

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 22, 2012 08:11 PM (rXiA3)

811 [ki]And it's been several times that a lady brought me back to her place for some pancakes only to find her apartment had the conniving oxygen thieves, forcing me to choose between sexy times and breathing.

You can do that erotic asphyxia thing with a spotter present. Win! Win!

Posted by: fluffy at October 22, 2012 08:11 PM (z9HTb)

812 I was stationed in London, attached to COMNAVACT UK during 'Able Archer'. It was well-planned and well-executed; most NATO exercises were, despite the inevitable f*ck-ups / bumps in the road

Only later did we find out that the Russians were sh*tting their diapers....

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at October 22, 2012 08:11 PM (Dll6b)

813 Good night Alton and God Bless !!!!!!!

Posted by: grumpy momma bear at October 22, 2012 08:12 PM (IKR24)

814

Peaches, wouldn't dream of it. I pegged you as libertarian, whereas I'm old-skool Main-Line Protestant, so about as social-con as it gets--probably a fair bit of overlap on policies, less so on the choices people make within them!

Also, I shoot to--how did they say it in the CCW course?--stop the threat. It just happens that murder/death/kill is the most sure way to stop it. Double-taps all the way. No need to draw down on a moron or 'ette, though.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 08:12 PM (1zwZo)

815 @763 dude, set my name down and upgrade your historical knowledge. ~.~ "in god we trust", and also the part in the national pledge that speaks of a nation "under god", were pithy statements added during the cold-war years to draw a strong contrast with godless communist russia. they certainly had nothing to do with the founders' vision for the nation, and likely would have been declared unconstitutional if not for the conspicuous lack of specificity as to which god was in question! (i've never done any drugs, for the record.)

Posted by: jimi ray at October 22, 2012 08:12 PM (79EF9)

816 Lol, I love you guys. This blog makes me so happy. I currently hang out with people who have no sense of humor. Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 23, 2012 12:05 AM (rXiA3) You are totally welcome to hang out with us. You can be my wingman any time! Wing... person. Flight companion. Fellow... flying person. Ehhh...

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 08:12 PM (bxiXv)

817 Whoa, girl, whoever that was, please do not mix booze and tylenol. Get yourself some aleve, even my doctor agrees on that. And we are drinkers. Tylenol and booze, no no no no no!!!

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 08:13 PM (kpCLl)

818 Not to take anything away from peaches who is awesome and can take whomever she wishes, but I'm pretty sure that dude last night was talking about Dianna.

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition at October 23, 2012 12:03 AM (rXiA3)

Nah Dianna snapped back at him last night and that got his panties all up in a bunch.

Posted by: buzzion at October 22, 2012 08:13 PM (GULKT)

819 speaking of bayonets, I hear obama has a mean sword swallowing routine he plans to take on the road in january.
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Speak softly and swallow a big stick.

Carry dammit, I meant carry!

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 22, 2012 08:13 PM (AUeaU)

820 @669 Peaches, that is too true. Guys did not fuck with me. Raised by my dad. Went to an all girls' high school. Notre Dame Academy on Overland. You?

Posted by: joanne still likes Trey Gowdys hair and tude at October 22, 2012 08:13 PM (VNFBf)

821 Last week I checked out the magazine covers while I waited in the grocery line. The only magazine that featured the Obamas on the cover was Oprah's magazine and that was a shared thingy with the Romneys. It was nice as I am sick to death of seeing them constantly emblazoned on the covers of every magazine

Posted by: katya the designated driver at October 22, 2012 08:13 PM (DoZD+)

822 "The Russians are white people, without Western Civilizational values." Russians are mostly white, part Tatar. Posted by: JB at October 22, 2012 11:34 PM (xVcWj) ------------------------------------------------------ Good with butter, sour cream, Bacon bits and chives!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 22, 2012 08:14 PM (jucos)

823 Not to take anything away from peaches who is awesome and can take whomever she wishes, but I'm pretty sure that dude last night was talking about Dianna.

I've seen half a dozen commenters today say it was Peaches. And a DM on twitter saying the same.

*shrugs*

Not that it really matters.

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Ah hell.

What did I miss?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2012 08:14 PM (piMMO)

824 (i've never done any drugs, for the record.)

Posted by: jimi ray at October 23, 2012 12:12 AM (79EF9)

No worries, your slack has been taken up. Not recently, but well and thoroughly. You're welcome!

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 08:14 PM (kpCLl)

825 It was really dang hard to fap through that whole debate.... ran out of lube and switched to valu-rite..... don't do that, that shit really stings....

Posted by: moron #1 at October 22, 2012 08:14 PM (2CiZb)

826 You can do that erotic asphyxia thing with a spotter present. Win! Win!
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Posted by: David Carradine at October 22, 2012 08:14 PM (AUeaU)

827 When scientists start to make policy, maybe they should expect more of this sort of thing .... Today, a court in the central Italian city of L'Aquila, 380 years after that miscarriage of justice, sentenced six scientists and a government bureaucrat to six years in jail on manslaughter charges for their failure to predict a 2009 earthquake that left more than 300 people dead.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at October 22, 2012 08:15 PM (e8kgV)

828 The Russian people are matrilinearly white, but patrilinearly a comination of all the nomads that raped their great-grandmas. Posted by: The Political Hat at October 23, 2012 12:09 AM (sZTYJ) Rape is a pretty strong word there, buddy.

Posted by: Nomads at October 22, 2012 08:15 PM (+XD7n)

829 786
Hi, Lou! Ain't that the truth!

Hey, nice win for the Raiders last Sunday! And my sad@ss Cowboys won, too, with help, I understand, from some replacement refs. Well, maybe they weren't the replacements, but I'm told they made some hellacious calls in the 'Boys' favor.

Posted by: Theresa 4 Romney/Ryan at October 23, 2012 12:08 AM (FDErx)

Hi you, missed you around here. Yeah my Raiders barely escaped being the worst team in the nfl.

Posted by: lou's a girl at October 22, 2012 08:15 PM (2Nzn8)

830 yeah, tylenol and booze is a no no. remember, tylenol and water, booze and booze.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 08:15 PM (Z9EHQ)

831 Due to being conquered by the Khans and being shut off from Protestant Christianity they didn't develop the intellectual framework to build a free society.
Yeah, you know, like Prussia.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 22, 2012 08:15 PM (vDl/w)

832 Tatars have their own area; most Russians are not Tartar-ish or partly That

Lenin was half-Tatar

Posted by: Slim Whitman at October 22, 2012 08:15 PM (Dll6b)

833 @804 exactly There's lots of things I don't believe in. Like astrology. And I promote my anti-astrology belief mainly by ... very rarely talking or thinking about astrology. A couple times in my life some dumb women have tried to talk to be about astrology and I ... smiled politely and changed the subject. I didn't feel compelled to convince them they were idiots. I don't care. They believe in something silly, so what.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2012 08:15 PM (ZPrif)

834 That is the Moron way.

Wait.

I don't think we're talking about the same thing... Posted by: BCochran1981

Pretty sure we are! It's all in good fun until someone ends up in the cone of shame.

BTW, if anyone doesn't know, and cares, I am told that the Giants beat the Cardinals, 9 to nothing.

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 08:15 PM (mKMj1)

835 Ah hell. What did I miss? Nothing worthwhile. Twisted panties mostly. And not in some deviant Moron way.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 08:15 PM (GEICT)

836 Whoa, girl, whoever that was, please do not mix booze and tylenol. Get yourself some aleve, even my doctor agrees on that. And we are drinkers. Tylenol and booze, no no no no no!!!

****

BIG nono!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2012 08:15 PM (piMMO)

837 Went to an all girls' high school. Notre Dame Academy on Overland. You?

Posted by: joanne still likes Trey Gowdys hair and tude at October 23, 2012 12:13 AM (VNFBf)

Some fancypants yet down-to-earth place in New England. Do you mean Overland in LA? Are you still here? Where do you drink?

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 08:16 PM (kpCLl)

838 The Russian people are matrilinearly white, but patrilinearly a comination of all the nomads that raped their great-grandmas.
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President is like Khan, da?

Posted by: Bill Clinton touring Russia at October 22, 2012 08:16 PM (AUeaU)

839 tylenol and booze is what killed off the dinosaurs

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2012 08:17 PM (piMMO)

840 The Russian people are matrilinearly white, but patrilinearly a comination of all the nomads that raped their great-grandmas. Posted by: The Political Hat at October 23, 2012 12:09 AM (sZTYJ) Rape is a pretty strong word there, buddy. Posted by: Nomads at October 23, 2012 12:15 AM (+XD7n) well, in fairness they were enslaved

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 08:17 PM (Z9EHQ)

841 Today, a court in the central Italian city of L'Aquila, 380 years after that miscarriage of justice, sentenced six scientists and a government bureaucrat to six years in jail on manslaughter charges for their failure to predict a 2009 earthquake that left more than 300 people dead.

****

That'll encourage folks into the sciences!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2012 08:18 PM (piMMO)

842 Say, has brother DAve been around? I wanted to ask him for a "clarification." If you were watching carefully last night, he called me out.

So, how about them Giants?

Posted by: comatus at October 22, 2012 08:18 PM (qaVK+)

843

FTR, it's safer to take Tylenol with alcohol than after alcohol, though I strongly urge you to do neither as the ensuing liver damage will compromise your ability to enjoy the moron lifestyle in the future..ibuprofen is the way to go.

/free illegal medical advice

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 08:18 PM (1zwZo)

844 803 Posted by: Dianna at October 23, 2012 12:08 AM (mKMj1)

Ok, if you say so. Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition

Regard me as generally harmless, if easily taken as F.I.N.E. - Freaked out, Insecure, Neurotic and Edgy. To say nothing of armed. With martial arts skills, swords, and compound bows, to say nothing of canes.

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 08:18 PM (mKMj1)

845 I've seen half a dozen commenters today say it was Peaches. And a DM on twitter saying the same.

Good grief, please tell me I don't need to involve my attorneys . . . Ah, what am I saying, there's no such thing as bad publicity!

Carry on.

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 08:18 PM (kpCLl)

846 @804 i don't think that's true. it may depend on your definition of "evangelical", but if they're anything like the "fundamentalist" xtians i've had the displeasure of meeting, who i'm sure would describe themselves as "evangelical", they don't miss a beat to inject their personal interpretation of their scriptures (and any extrascriptural exegeses) into *any* conversation, no matter how ill-suited to a discussion of religion. in general, the references tend to be self-serving condemnations of certain groups of people and how they are "going to hell". you have a point on the obsessiveness of certain atheist types -- and i made the point myself -- totally undermining their gravity. but the amount of hypocrisy in which most of the "evangelicals" i know engage in order to pass judgment on people they dislike is just as absurd! @.@ now, then again, my fiancÃ©'s family is southern baptist, and while they have the crosses and verses adorning the walls of their home, they're extremely pleasant folks who take care not to force their religious views on those who are welcomed as guests into their home. accordingly, i have no problem showing respect for their religion when in their presence. i guess southern baptist would be considered "evangelical", but as they've blessed our marriage plans, i don't think they're very fundamentalist at all... show respect, get respect -- funny how that works!

Posted by: jimi ray at October 22, 2012 08:18 PM (79EF9)

847 Yeah, you know, like Prussia.
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Frankfurt assembly you say? Suck my Krupps.

Posted by: Otto Von Bismark at October 22, 2012 08:19 PM (AUeaU)

848 When scientists start to make policy, maybe they should expect more of this sort of thing .... Today, a court in the central Italian city of L'Aquila, 380 years after that miscarriage of justice, sentenced six scientists and a government bureaucrat to six years in jail on manslaughter charges for their failure to predict a 2009 earthquake that left more than 300 people dead. Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at October 23, 2012 12:15 AM (e8kgV) Were newts or ducks mentioned? Italy wallows in shame today.

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 08:19 PM (+XD7n)

849 well, in fairness they were enslaved
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Posted by: Some Moron at October 22, 2012 08:19 PM (AUeaU)

850 tylenol and booze is what killed off the dinosaurs Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 23, 2012 12:17 AM (piMMO) --------------------------------------------------------- I thought it was smoking

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 22, 2012 08:19 PM (jucos)

851 Regard me as generally harmless, if easily taken as F.I.N.E. - Freaked out, Insecure, Neurotic and Edgy. To say nothing of armed. With martial arts skills, swords, and compound bows, to say nothing of canes. BUNK.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 08:20 PM (GEICT)

852 To say nothing of armed. With martial arts skills, swords, and compound bows, to say nothing of canes. ..... get a gun!! did you see Indianna Jones smoke hadjii badass with the sword in Raiders of the lost Ark? gun>sword

Posted by: moron #1 at October 22, 2012 08:20 PM (2CiZb)

853 that being said, it's pretty illogical to call atheists who desire to promote their own (lack of) religious dogma any more militant than the religious folks, be they jewish, islamic, or xtian, who are busy using public roads and property to promote their own often differing interpretations of thousand-year-old scriptures. Posted by: jimi ray at October 23, 2012 12:01 AM (79EF9) "thousand-year-old scriptures"? Huh? Can you count? And islam doesn't belong in the same sentence as Christianity and Judaism. There is no NO history of islam in America (other than our need to fight off savage muslims in foreign lands). islam has never been part of America and never contributed anything to our nation. To put it on par with Christianity (which built America) and Judaism (which was offered a safe home here and has contributed greatly to the nation since before its founding) is typical idiot talk. Do you know nothing about American history? BTW, atheists contributed shit to America's foundation and construction over the years. A little here and there, but atheism has never been a big part of America, though it has been tolerated without much difficulty. Any TRUE atheist wouldn't give a shit about promoting anything, since he would think that there is nothing after death and nothing outside of the physical and, therefore, no reason to worry about much of anything. Most people who call themselves atheists just have some major problem with a religion or two and want to hide behind some atheist cry. It's fucking pathetic.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 08:20 PM (X3lox)

854 Back again, in the HQ and at woik. How we doing?

Posted by: zeera at October 22, 2012 08:20 PM (Lv9bM)

855 770 Yep, if he wins again, no more tv. As he is on every channel now, can you imagine another four years. I'm way ahead of you. I quit watching TV on Election Night 2008.

Posted by: rickl at October 22, 2012 08:21 PM (sdi6R)

856

Yeah, haven't been on the ONT in a while, Lou. Been working late trying to make a little extra cash to pay some unexpected bills from the apartment fire, moving, and then having to get a new computer. Plus, Twitter has taken hold of me and I spend a lot of time on there.

Nice to know I was missed! ;-)

Posted by: Theresa 4 Romney/Ryan at October 22, 2012 08:21 PM (FDErx)

857 Today, a court in the central Italian city of L'Aquila, 380 years after that miscarriage of justice, sentenced six scientists and a government bureaucrat to six years in jail on manslaughter charges for their failure to predict a 2009 earthquake that left more than 300 people dead. LOL. Guilty as sin. Free as a bird! Suck it, bitchez!

Posted by: Extremely Dangerous Climate Scientologist Who Kills Whole Industries at October 22, 2012 08:22 PM (X3lox)

858 >Is the ONT back to being a clique? Is there a re-initiation process or are new cliques supersets of old ones? Beats me. I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round. I really love to watch them roll

Posted by: Captain Whitebread thinks "Yoko, John? REALLY?" at October 22, 2012 08:22 PM (5J54Q)

859 That'll encourage folks into the sciences!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 23, 2012 12:18 AM (piMMO)

Well maybe they should not be acting like they know everything, see global warming.

Ok attack at will.

Just so you know, I dont think they should go to jail

Posted by: lou's a girl at October 22, 2012 08:22 PM (2Nzn8)

860 I played a Mongol warlord in a 50s movie !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: John Wayne at October 22, 2012 08:22 PM (Dll6b)

861 854 Back again, in the HQ and at woik. How we doing? Posted by: zeera at October 23, 2012 12:20 AM (Lv9bM) The usual.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 08:22 PM (bxiXv)

862 854 Back again, in the HQ and at woik. How we doing?

Posted by: zeera at October 23, 2012 12:20 AM (Lv9bM)

fast moving ONT tonight

I'm cooking, so that means I'll be burning down the house in about an hour

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 08:23 PM (d/5qf)

863 Peaches! Sifty!!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at October 22, 2012 08:23 PM (T1/me)

864 V\I want that ass to have to stand there and take it, right there where he gave W the fuck you. And to see the look on the moochs` face. Posted by: rightlysouthern (aim low boys, theys ridin ponies) at October 23, 2012 12:09 AM Not just the look on her face, but basking in the knowledge that she'll make his life a living hell going forward, for denying her the "perks" of office. Welcome to my world, Barack. Now go make me a sammich.

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 22, 2012 08:23 PM (JMmQ9)

865 The Palin talk made me go to the video

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/index.html

Damn you Fox and your graphics, I can't get a full look at her boobehs which are HUGE

You can watch them move up and down while she breathes, waiting for Hannity to finish his question

Definitely bunk worthy ... DAMN

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2012 08:23 PM (wwsoB)

866 happy birthday sifty

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 08:23 PM (d/5qf)

867 Okay, lovemonkeys, I think I will go to bed and pray for a felicitous morning (fat fuckin' chance!). Sweet dreams and God bless!

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 08:24 PM (kpCLl)

868 oh look, it's Peaches. say, did you ever get that email I sent you?

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 08:24 PM (d/5qf)

869 I still love the Obama clip about we don't need as many ships like we don't need bayonets and horses--the Army now has LAWS and M2s and main battle tanks--the navy still projects 100% of its force through, um, ships...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 08:24 PM (1zwZo)

870 Alright, should've gone to bed 2 hours ago. G'night Morons! Try not to burn the place down. And holy wars are always bloody. Make sure you mop up all the blood.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 22, 2012 08:24 PM (GEICT)

871 tylenol and booze is what killed off the dinosaurs Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 23, 2012 12:17 AM (piMMO) --------------------------------------------------------- I thought it was smoking Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 23, 2012 12:19 AM (jucos) Crappy Space program didn't help either.

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 08:24 PM (+XD7n)

872 I'm cooking, so that means I'll be burning down the house in about an hour Posted by: chemjeff at October 23, 2012 12:23 AM (d/5qf) -------------------------------------------------------- Wait, what?

Posted by: David Byrne at October 22, 2012 08:24 PM (jucos)

873 OMG, bebe!!!! I will stay up for a bit . . . let me just step out and burn a parlie. {{{{{}}}}}

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 08:24 PM (kpCLl)

874 show respect, get respect -- funny how that works!

Posted by: jimi ray at October 23, 2012 12:18 AM (79EF9)

You're a pathetic blowhard with far too high an opinion of yourself and regularly show your douchebagness here. Such as with your post overanalyzing my snarky comment about militant atheists being far too obsessed with God.

Posted by: buzzion at October 22, 2012 08:25 PM (GULKT)

875 #852 - I forgot to mention the 2 .45s and the .22 target pistol (my birthday present!) and the shotguns and the carbine, didn't I? Sorry!

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 08:25 PM (mKMj1)

876 Posted by: eman at October 23, 2012 12:24 AM

They drank Tang?

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 22, 2012 08:25 PM (0It32)

877 Night Peaches!

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 08:25 PM (1zwZo)

878 Hey zeera, I'm "working" too. Well, I'm at work, lurking here mostly while finishing up the shopping for Cougars birthday.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 08:25 PM (4QAQg)

879 The shark-faced one is on Fox--being beaten with an ugly stick would be an improvement...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 08:27 PM (1zwZo)

880 show respect, get respect -- funny how that works!
Posted by: jimi ray at October 23, 2012 12:18 AM (79EF9)

Hmmmm, I always thought it was "show snark and vicious mockery and get fear and cringing."

My bad.

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 08:27 PM (kpCLl)

881 Walking dogs and heading for bed. Thanks for the lovely evening!

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 08:28 PM (mKMj1)

882 @859 there are soooo many serious scientists who don't sign on to the agw hypothesis! i know you would get that impression from the media's apotheosis of the environmental "scientists" whose tailored "research" furthers the leftist causes of punishing businesses and sending us all back to the pre-industrial ag-age, but i know ace has profiled a lot of responsible scientists here who weren't so quick to jump on the bandwagon...and even publically discussed the totally irresponsible approach to the "research" that the nasa folks, &al., were following! scientists *do* know a lot, and some people hate that fact, because sometimes scientific resutls challenge their preconceived notions, but it's not really fair to blame all scientists as irresponsible, unethical political partisans because the media has a habit of continually reminding the public about a group of scientists that is just that! ~.~

Posted by: jimi ray at October 22, 2012 08:28 PM (79EF9)

883 So will the NFL fine Detroit receivers for having foreign substances on their gloves or will they get deemed to have suffered enough when it is discovered the substance was Crisco?

Posted by: Bete stays up at October 22, 2012 08:28 PM (8kIXE)

884 That Awkward Moment when you realize all the orgasmic screaming was really just, "Ow!! Wrong hole!!"

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 22, 2012 08:29 PM (niZvt)

885 Pop Quiz. When did the House and Senate start having a Chaplain?

Posted by: buzzion at October 22, 2012 08:29 PM (GULKT)

886 856
Yeah, haven't been on the ONT in a while, Lou. Been working late trying to make a little extra cash to pay some unexpected bills from the apartment fire, moving, and then having to get a new computer. Plus, Twitter has taken hold of me and I spend a lot of time on there.

Nice to know I was missed! ;-)

Posted by: Theresa 4 Romney/Ryan at October 23, 2012 12:21 AM (FDErx)

Yes you were

Posted by: lou's a girl at October 22, 2012 08:30 PM (2Nzn8)

887 730 I'm half tempted to declare my house open to Morons election evening. Even though I think asking everyone to traipse to San Jose is insane.

Posted by: Dianna at October 22, 2012 11:59 PM (mKMj1)

It's not that far for some of us.....but I'd better stay home for the extensive drinking while TFG does his Al Gore impression.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 08:30 PM (kaalw)

888 Something like that Italian earthquake case happened here in the 80's. There was a large sudden rainfall in SE Ohio, and the Weather Service did not issue a flood warning for all areas. Brush stuck in a snag in a large creek, formed a dam, broke, and killed some people in or around Shady Grove. Heads rolled at the national weather bureau.

The whole practice of issuing "percentage" forecasts, and the end-of-the-world kind of broad area storm warnings, arose from that furor. And, ISTM, the whole passive-aggressive New Weather war on the US started up just about the time of that purge.

Posted by: comatus at October 22, 2012 08:30 PM (qaVK+)

889 884 That Awkward Moment when you realize all the orgasmic screaming was really just, "Ow!! Wrong hole!!"

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 23, 2012 12:29 AM

There's a wrong hole?

Posted by: back door barry soetoro at October 22, 2012 08:31 PM (yBF/9)

890 Time for bed. Thanks to everyone who commented during the debate so I could keep up with the goings-on while I was watching the Cardinals implode and the Lions not do much better. Good night, all!

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 22, 2012 08:31 PM (IuzqV)

891 Any TRUE atheist wouldn't give a shit about promoting anything, since he would think that there is nothing after death and nothing outside of the physical and, therefore, no reason to worry about much of anything. Most people who call themselves atheists just have some major problem with a religion or two and want to hide behind some atheist cry. It's fucking pathetic. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2012 12:20 AM (X3lox) Not necessarily so. Atheists could promote improving the human race and the human condition even though they believe there is no Afterlife. It would be nice if they did so and let religion run its course. If religion is a worthy thing, it will endure. If not, it will fade away. Militants have no patience and no faith in what they believe. That is a big reason why they push and pull so hard.

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 08:31 PM (+XD7n)

892 850 tylenol and booze is what killed off the dinosaurs
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 23, 2012 12:17 AM (piMMO)
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I thought it was smoking

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 23, 2012 12:19 AM (jucos)

I thought it was fappin and the intertube pron.

Posted by: MrCaniac at October 22, 2012 08:31 PM (Zd/NW)

893 I had to bail on Fox when they brought on Debbie Watered-down Schlitz on

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 08:31 PM (8sCoq)

894 And for the record, the dinosaurs were killed off by lack of affordable health care

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 08:32 PM (8sCoq)

895 Definitely bunk worthy ... DAMN Posted by: kbdabear at October 23, 2012 12:23 AM (wwsoB) Bless you, kind Sir!

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 08:32 PM (+XD7n)

896 Best Twitter post

" What do Marines use Bayonets for? To pick Socialists out of their teeth. "

Posted by: AmericanDawg at October 22, 2012 08:33 PM (XIsD/)

897 Any TRUE atheist wouldn't give a shit about promoting anything, since he would think that there is nothing after death and nothing outside of the physical and, therefore, no reason to worry about much of anything. Most people who call themselves atheists just have some major problem with a religion or two and want to hide behind some atheist cry. It's fucking pathetic.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2012 12:20 AM (X3lox)

You have no idea what you're talking about. If anything I worry more because I know there's no big daddy in the sky to make everything ok.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 08:33 PM (4BBjP)

898 Ok Horde ....time to lumber off to the old bear cave .....here is a nice image for the evening .... My dad , always voted for the democrats got a brand new Romney and Ryan hat with buttons today and was smiling happily as he wore it this evening ....and yes he finally saw the light and voted via absentee ballot for R and R !!!!!! God is Good !!!!! God Bless the Horde !!!!!!

Posted by: grumpy momma bear at October 22, 2012 08:34 PM (IKR24)

899 This race is tighter than Barry's squeakhole. IYKWIMAITYD!

We got this. Really. It's ours.

Posted by: Peaches is caustically optimistic at October 22, 2012 08:34 PM (kpCLl)

900 scientists *do* know a lot, and some people hate that fact, because sometimes scientific resutls challenge their preconceived notions, but it's not really fair to blame all scientists as irresponsible, unethical political partisans because the media has a habit of continually reminding the public about a group of scientists that is just that! ~.~

Posted by: jimi ray at October 23, 2012 12:28 AM (79EF9)

I don't hate that fact, Thank God for scientists.

And I knew, and told my hubby you would be the one to comment.

I guess you would call that a scientific experience between my hubby and I, but we both agreed, so it is now a scientific fact.

Posted by: lou's a girl at October 22, 2012 08:34 PM (2Nzn8)

901

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution,and unacknowledged by our laws and giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation.

Goodnight all. I tip my hat and say "strangers pass by".

Posted by: rightlysouthern (aim low boys, theys ridin ponies) at October 22, 2012 08:34 PM (jw8c0)

902 Any MD morons still here? If so, meetup in the Towson/Parkville area this Friday. Time/place TBD. Email me for details. My nic, no spaces, at yahoo.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 08:36 PM (4QAQg)

903 820 Joanne, Guys didn't screw around with me either. Dad was a funeral director and coroner. No problem that a shovel and a 45 couldn't fix.

Posted by: mpfs at October 22, 2012 08:36 PM (Mkhiu)

904 There's a wrong hole?

Posted by: back door barry soetoro at October 23, 2012 12:31 AM (yBF/9)

No, no there isn't President Awesomesauce!

Posted by: Ann Hathaway at October 22, 2012 08:37 PM (AUeaU)

905 g'nite friends

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 22, 2012 08:37 PM (8sCoq)

906 Guys didn't screw around with me either. Dad was a funeral director and coroner.
No problem that a shovel and a 45 couldn't fix.

Posted by: mpfs at October 23, 2012 12:36 AM (Mkhiu)

Some caskets can be awfully deep. And who really checks to see what is under the padding.

Posted by: buzzion at October 22, 2012 08:38 PM (GULKT)

907 Ah, that's the problem. ONT got stomped. Guess I'll wander into Aces post for a bit.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 08:38 PM (4QAQg)

908 I thought it was fappin and the intertube pron. Posted by: MrCaniac at October 23, 2012 12:31 AM (Zd/NW) That whole "no thumbs" thing was a downer, too. Although a dinosaur species, Troodon, hinted at combining increased intelligence with manipulative limbs. Too late, though.

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 08:38 PM (+XD7n)

909 ahh, 2 fingers of Gentleman Jack and a splash of water, good times...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 08:39 PM (1zwZo)

910 I thought it was fappin and the intertube pron. Posted by: MrCaniac at October 23, 2012 12:31 AM (Zd/NW) seriously? look at their effin arms they are not able to scratch their navel let alone play with their junk. if anything it was watching internets porn and an inability to reach their junk that was the problem.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 08:40 PM (Z9EHQ)

911 Accck, hurry peaches Im fading fast. It's back down to just me and mom, and she gets up at least once an hour so I get no sleep cause she needs help

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at October 22, 2012 08:40 PM (T1/me)

912 If anything I worry more because I know there's no big daddy in the sky to make everything ok.
***
Yes, but absent a perfect moral authority, how does one define ok? More to the point, what does it matter? If all we are is phantoms of consciousness that will fade into nothing in a mere few years, who cares if things are "ok" or not.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2012 08:40 PM (AUeaU)

913 ahh, 2 fingers of Gentleman Jack and a splash of water, good times... Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 23, 2012 12:39 AM (1zwZo) reggie and obama have something similar except it is something of reggie they throw the water in obamas face.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2012 08:42 PM (Z9EHQ)

914 You have no idea what you're talking about. If anything I worry more because I know there's no big daddy in the sky to make everything ok. Posted by: schizoid at October 23, 2012 12:33 AM (4BBjP) If you're an atheist and "understand" that consciousness is nothing but an emergent property of our neural system with no reality beyond that then I can't see why you would worry about anything that doesn't involve your direct and immediate pleasure. If you do care about anything extending beyond yourself then I think you would find that you actually believe in something else and something beyond the physical. You can't have it both ways, though. Either life and existence have meaning or not. If they don't, then they just don't and you can't argue for imbuing meaning into anything. If you do see some sort of meaning then you need to ask yourself where you think it comes from, because meaning is something that has to come from outside of the system, itself.

Posted by: Extremely Dangerous Climate Scientologist Who Kills Whole Industries at October 22, 2012 08:42 PM (X3lox)

915 Nevada Early vote numbers: Percent as of Sunday including absentee ballots: R 35.8%, D 48.3%, I 15.9% In 2008: R 24.3%, D 60.2%, I 15.5%. Total in '08: R 30.6%, D 51.8%, I 17.5%. Total in '10: R 40.2%, D 44.2%, I 15.7%. In Clark County (70% of state's population icluding Las Vegas) early vote + absentee in first two days: R 32.6%, D 51.2%, I16.1%. In 2008: R 24.3%, D 60.2%, I 15.5%. Total in '08: R 30.6%, D 52.0%, I 17.4%. Total in '10: R 37.4%, D 46.2%, I 16.4% In Washoe County (20% of state's population and home of Reno) R 37.6%, D 47.4%, I 14.9%. Washoe + absentees as for Fri. R

46.3%:53.7%. In '08: R

42.8%:57.2%. In '10: 52.6%:47.4% w/ absentees In '08: R 35.3%, D 47.1%%, I 17.5%. In '10: R 44.7%, D 40.3%, I 5.0% Today (Monday), WAshoe came in R over D: 2,865 to 2,834. To win in Nevada, the Republican needs to win Washoe, keep the Dem lead in Clark to single digits, and really turn out the rural counties. Overall, the percentages are better then in '08, but no where near where they were in '10 (where despite Reid winning, the GOP won the Gov. race and received more votes then the Dems in assembly races). However, the Dems raw number lead is larger due to nigher early vote turn out (it'll be 70-80% of total vote). So far this year: 59,203 in Clark County. In '08: 45,660 in Clark County.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 08:44 PM (sZTYJ)

916 That was not the appropriate sock for that ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 08:44 PM (X3lox)

917 Yes, but absent a perfect moral authority, how does one define ok? More to the point, what does it matter? If all we are is phantoms of consciousness that will fade into nothing in a mere few years, who cares if things are "ok" or not. Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2012 12:40 AM (AUeaU) And yet we do care. We are not machines just because we do not believe in the supernatural or stories that claim absolute truth and authority. Non-religious people love their children and worry about them. They love their country and worry about it. We are human just like you. Your equals.

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 08:45 PM (+XD7n)

918 I'm way ahead of you. I quit watching TV on Election Night 2008.

Posted by: rickl at October 23, 2012 12:21 AM (sdi6R)

Funny -- I dropped my subscription to the daily newspaper and cut my TV from about one hour a week to 0 the day after 2008's election. I wonder if it was some astrological thing.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 08:45 PM (kaalw)

919 seriously? look at their effin arms they are not able to scratch their navel let alone play with their junk. if anything it was watching internets porn and an inability to reach their junk that was the problem.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 23, 2012 12:40 AM (Z9EHQ)

Some dinos yes, but you don't think brontosauruses weren't whipping their skippys all day long?

Posted by: MrCaniac at October 22, 2012 08:45 PM (Zd/NW)

920

Peaches, nope, I don't live out there anymore. Grew up on the west side, moved to northern California, came back to socal ... currently live in beautiful orange groved Covina.

Posted by: joanne still likes Trey Gowdys hair and tude at October 22, 2012 08:46 PM (VNFBf)

921 Yes, but absent a perfect moral authority, how does one define ok? More to the point, what does it matter? If all we are is phantoms of consciousness that will fade into nothing in a mere few years, who cares if things are "ok" or not.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2012 12:40 AM (AUeaU)

If we're going to die in a few years, then what we do now matters. If we're going to live forever in the arms of big daddy, who cares?

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 08:46 PM (4BBjP)

922 904 There's a wrong hole?

Posted by: back door barry soetoro at October 23, 2012 12:31 AM (yBF/9)
No, no there isn't President Awesomesauce!

Posted by: Ann Hathaway at October 23, 2012 12:37 AM

That's what I thought. Wherever I put it, Reggie always says... "oooh yeah, Barry, that's right...". Well, except one place. Reggie doesn't say anything, then.

Posted by: back door barry soetoro at October 22, 2012 08:46 PM (yBF/9)

923

I think this is a false premise, that athesits don't believe in anything outside themselves, or are inconsistent if they do. The lack of a belief in God does not mean they do not believe in a greater humanity. It is at least possible to act morally as an atheist--whether they have moral equivalence with someone who acts morally due to belief in God is a fascinating philosophical question but is irrelevent in terms of the actual behaviors. Ace said something about this a week or two back, when people were saying Mitt did nice things only to look good instead out of an innate goodness, too lazy to hunt for the post.

tl;dr: I reject the idea that meaning is external only, and a "true" athesit must be a nihilist by extension.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 08:48 PM (1zwZo)

924 If we're going to die in a few years, then what we do now matters. If we're going to live forever in the arms of big daddy, who cares? Posted by: schizoid at October 23, 2012 12:46 AM (4BBjP) I'm sorry. If you were right I'd agree with you. What you said makes no sense whatsoever. Finite is finite. Do you understand what that means? 3 years or 3 million years is a finite difference that is utterly meaningless in the face of infinity. This is a simple point of mathematics.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 08:49 PM (X3lox)

925 You have no idea what you're talking about. If anything I worry more because I know there's no big daddy in the sky to make everything ok. Posted by: schizoid at October 23, 2012 12:33 AM (4BBjP) If you're an atheist and "understand" that consciousness is nothing but an emergent property of our neural system with no reality beyond that then I can't see why you would worry about anything that doesn't involve your direct and immediate pleasure. If you do care about anything extending beyond yourself then I think you would find that you actually believe in something else and something beyond the physical. You can't have it both ways, though. Either life and existence have meaning or not. If they don't, then they just don't and you can't argue for imbuing meaning into anything. If you do see some sort of meaning then you need to ask yourself where you think it comes from, because meaning is something that has to come from outside of the system, itself. Posted by: Extremely Dangerous Climate Scientologist Who Kills Whole Industries at October 23, 2012 12:42 AM (X3lox) Yes, you can not see. Your faith may give your life meaning, but that is not enough to make what you believe true. There is room on this planet for both our kinds.

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 08:50 PM (+XD7n)

926 I see that Greg infected the post-debate post immediately...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 08:50 PM (1zwZo)

927 DC in Towson. will email you. I used to live in Carroll, now in MontCo. Yeah... I'm insane.

Posted by: In the Belly of the Beast-Kathy in MD at October 22, 2012 08:51 PM (A5iH4)

928 tl;dr: I reject the idea that meaning is external only, and a "true" athesit must be a nihilist by extension. Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 23, 2012 12:48 AM (1zwZo) You can reject it all you want but this is another point of mathematical certainty which is not open to opinion. Godel's theorem addresses a far less complicated issue and proves that even that cannot be contained in a finitely axiomatized system (which is the sort of system that pretty much all atheists consider our universe to be). Of course, oone can subscribe to the idea of the irrational universe, but then we're so far out that any discussion of it is totally meaningless ... and MEANING is the whole point of this discussion.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 08:53 PM (X3lox)

929 What you said makes no sense whatsoever. Finite is finite. Do you understand what that means? 3 years or 3 million years is a finite difference that is utterly meaningless in the face of infinity. This is a simple point of mathematics. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2012 12:49 AM (X3lox) Why would an eternal life have more meaning than a finite one?

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 08:53 PM (+XD7n)

930 Posted by: The Political Hat at October 23, 2012 12:44 AM (sZTYJ) I should note that all but one of the rural counties didn't have early voting on Sunday, though they only have 10% of the states population.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 08:53 PM (sZTYJ)

931

Posted by: mpfs at October 23, 2012 12:36 AM (Mkhiu)

Holey moley!! My dad taught me how to shoot by bending over and resting the rifle on his back so I could shoot -- I was probably seven or eight, maybe four feet tall.

Posted by: joanne still likes Trey Gowdys hair and tude at October 22, 2012 08:54 PM (VNFBf)

932 And yet we do care. We are not machines just because we do not believe in the supernatural or stories that claim absolute truth and authority.

Non-religious people love their children and worry about them. They love their country and worry about it. We are human just like you. Your equals.
***
You care because you were raised in a Christian country with a Christian ethos that you absorbed whether or not your parents endeavored to raise you in such a manner.

Take that away and you'd have the sort of "morality" that has traditionally existed in non-theistic societies - which if I were to detail would Godwin the thread.

Interestingly, irrespective of its truth, religion has a use for societies - it is what allows them to establish something above hunter gatherers. Militant atheism is arguably a great threat to human well being then liberalism is, preciously because the latter can be tamed by religion.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2012 08:54 PM (AUeaU)

933 If you're an atheist and "understand" that consciousness is nothing but an emergent property of our neural system with no reality beyond that then I can't see why you would worry about anything that doesn't involve your direct and immediate pleasure.

There are indirect and deferred pleasures.

If you do care about anything extending beyond yourself then I think you would find that you actually believe in something else and something beyond the physical

Why? The physical is mysterious enough and much bigger than I am.

Either life and existence have meaning or not.

That's the big question. Unlike you I do not presume to know the answer.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 08:54 PM (4BBjP)

934 @891 in defence of *some* of the more "active" atheists, they might simply believe that religion, as a *negative influence* on society, is a legitimate target for intellectual assault. there is a long tradition in civilised societies to bring grievances with the misbehaviour of hegemonic institutions into public discussion, and it's probably the case that some atheists consider their "crusades" (xP) to be socially beneficial. clearly, that motivation is *not* the primary motivation for folks like lawrence krauss and richard dawkins, who are obviously inexplicably predisposed to sanctimoniously hating religion and religious believers. of course, by just noting the difference between the language that unbelievers and believers are employing in this thread, it can be seen how one might come to the conclusion that religion is far more a *threat* to social harmony than a boon. it's my experience that fundamentalist xtians have absolutely no problem giving into their base instincts and engaging in hateful, vulgar language against those with whom they disagree. while that's certainly more than true of so-called "militant atheists", at least the atheists aren't claiming to follow the example of a guy whose second greatest commandment was "love your neighbour as yourself". call me crazy, but i have a hard time seeing the jesus of the bible acting *anything* like some of the more vocal xtians around here do! of course, when one has the pleasure to come across a group of xtians that actually *does* follow jesus' example -- like my soon-to-be in-laws -- it's hard to imagine a more pleasant social interaction! it just seems that a lot of modern xtians are simply using their religious affiliation as a sort of judgmental in-group where folks can get together and hate on people who think and act differently... again, an unfortunate number of self-professed xtians here at the hq do a pretty good job of furthering that concept...but then, i'm fully aware that it may just be a function of the loudest screamers being the most visible -- just like dawkins' ilk on the other side! tl; dr version: you'd think you'd want to avoid calling someone a cum-guzzling douchenozzle when standing up for your xtianity, but then what do i know about religion? o.O

Posted by: jimi ray at October 22, 2012 08:55 PM (79EF9)

935 There is room on this planet for both our kinds. Posted by: eman at October 23, 2012 12:50 AM (+XD7n) I'm not rejecting your "kind". I have no problem with you. We are having a rational discussion. Your argument is seriously flawed. Don't blame me for that.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 08:55 PM (X3lox)

936 Zakaria looks like he got his face tightened. He looks like a serial killer. Posted by: Ktgreat at October 22, 2012 11:28 PM (avGs3) A little mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5zFsy9VIdM

Posted by: David Byrne at October 22, 2012 08:56 PM (sZTYJ)

937 Why would an eternal life have more meaning than a finite one? Posted by: eman at October 23, 2012 12:53 AM (+XD7n) Wrong question. The question is, "How could a closed, bounded, finite world hold any meaning?" It can't.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 08:58 PM (X3lox)

938 ok i admit i am concern trolling on facebook right now on an "balanced" (read Obama-cultist) group. I really am pleased with myself. I really hated that quip about horses and Bayonets. so i got "concerned" how that would sound taken out of context and "worried" that it could be played to sound snarky in a douche-tastic way, even if it was a crowd pleaser to the already convinced...

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at October 22, 2012 08:58 PM (r7Ddb)

939 How can this black woman be an undecided. Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 22, 2012 11:08 PM (PH+2B) That's because all persons of color and all womyn are genetically Progressive in their thinking and any of them that don't think that way are brainwashed by the anglo-normative patriarchy and used by the kyriarchy to oppress the LGBTQ community. they are oreos and aut jemimas and fukslaves and stuff. Only by thiniking the way Progressive SCIENCE declares that they must think can they have freedom!!1! NO JUSTIC NO PIECE!!~`!!1!eleventy!!1!` NO JUSTIC NO PIECE!!~`!!1!eleventy!!1!` NO JUSTIC NO PIECE!!~`!!1!eleventy!!1!`

Posted by: Social Science Graduate Student in African Womyns Studies at October 22, 2012 09:00 PM (sZTYJ)

940 Finite is finite. Do you understand what that means? 3 years or 3 million years is a finite difference that is utterly meaningless in the face of infinity. This is a simple point of mathematics.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2012 12:49 AM (X3lox)

Precisely. If we are truly eternal, than what we do in the finite time we live in this world is meaningless.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 09:00 PM (4BBjP)

941 And yet we do care. We are not machines just because we do not believe in the supernatural or stories that claim absolute truth and authority. Non-religious people love their children and worry about them. They love their country and worry about it. We are human just like you. Your equals. *** You care because you were raised in a Christian country with a Christian ethos that you absorbed whether or not your parents endeavored to raise you in such a manner. Take that away and you'd have the sort of "morality" that has traditionally existed in non-theistic societies - which if I were to detail would Godwin the thread. Interestingly, irrespective of its truth, religion has a use for societies - it is what allows them to establish something above hunter gatherers. Militant atheism is arguably a great threat to human well being then liberalism is, preciously because the latter can be tamed by religion. Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2012 12:54 AM (AUeaU) Wow. Not even close to being accurate. Religion is definitely a powerful force for good and social order. None of that makes it true. You confuse effectiveness with accuracy. As for my being capable of love and concern because I was lucky enough to be raised by Christians, well, you have much to learn, Young Jedi.

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 09:01 PM (+XD7n)

942 People, people...Fucking please! Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2012 11:43 PM (BuSM Agreed!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's Vajayjay at October 22, 2012 09:01 PM (sZTYJ)

943 Wrong question. The question is, "How could a closed, bounded, finite world hold any meaning?" It can't. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2012 12:58 AM (X3lox) And yet it does.

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 09:02 PM (+XD7n)

944 [teel deer post snipped]

Posted by: jimi ray at October 23, 2012 12:55 AM (79EF9)

Don't make me have to reinstitute the JR limit.

Posted by: Mætenloch at October 22, 2012 09:02 PM (XkotV)

945 Rape is a pretty strong word there, buddy. Posted by: Nomads at October 23, 2012 12:15 AM (+XD7n) Would "surprise sex" be more acceptable?

Posted by: Russian Girl at October 22, 2012 09:02 PM (sZTYJ)

946 Wow, aces place is troll central. Romney loses all 57 states, and Guam capsizes! That's what I get for venturing out of the cozy confines of the ONT.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 09:03 PM (4QAQg)

947 938 ok i admit i am concern trolling on facebook right now on an "balanced" (read Obama-cultist) group. I really am pleased with myself. I really hated that quip about horses and Bayonets. so i got "concerned" how that would sound taken out of context and "worried" that it could be played to sound snarky in a douche-tastic way, even if it was a crowd pleaser to the already convinced...

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at October 23, 2012 12:58 AM (r7Ddb)

Heh, heh, heh. And how are the little darlings reacting?

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 09:03 PM (kaalw)

948 Non-religious people love their children and worry about them. They
love their country and worry about it. We are human just like you.
Your equals.
***
You care because you were raised in a Christian country with a Christian ethos that you absorbed whether or not your parents endeavored to raise you in such a manner.

So no one ever loved their own children before Jesus showed up. Right.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 09:03 PM (4BBjP)

949 Obama makes me laugh. A fucking no foreign policy experience community agitator with an unremarkable half finished 1st senate term with a completely failed foreign policy as president thinks he can speak as if he knows anything.. He's an asshole, and needs to be voted the hell out.

Posted by: Berserker at October 22, 2012 09:03 PM (FMbng)

950 That Awkward Moment when you realize all the orgasmic screaming was really just, "Ow!! Wrong hole!!" Posted by: CoolCzech at October 23, 2012 12:29 AM There's a wrong hole? Posted by: back door barry soetoro at October 23, 2012 12:31 AM (yBF/9) Of course there is a wrong hole! It's that fishy one with cooties that girls have...

Posted by: Barney Frank, Anti-Cootie Advocate at October 22, 2012 09:03 PM (sZTYJ)

951 If we're going to die in a few years, then what we do now matters. If we're going to live forever in the arms of big daddy, who cares?
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Quite the reverse. If death is the end, then nothing matters other then potentially epicurean pursuits of pleasure. The left hasn't embraced this out of intellectual development, but by simply taking their views on religion and morality to their obvious conclusions.

If one instead lives on in some form, then what you do here and now will matter forever.

Let's take a simple analogy.

You log into a forum for a couple of days knowing that it is set to be closed and its servers wiped. Do you seek to improve the forum? Or do you just take your enjoyment of it, in whatever format that takes, while the forum still lives?

Let's instead suppose you join another forum expecting to be a regular participant for many years. Do you troll? Do you attack other posters unfairly?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2012 09:04 PM (AUeaU)

952 the AMC show "Hell on Wheels?"

I like it. The last few have pissed me off with the killing off of interesting characters. And a gratuitous opiate addiction, Colm was doing a great Moneybags T. Asshole just fine without it.

Posted by: DaveA at October 22, 2012 09:05 PM (wcjj2)

953 My mother just told me that she parks her SUV pasted with Romney & anti-Obama stickers in front of the Dem campaign office that opened in the same business center that her office is in. She's pretty much daring them to key it so she can sue.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 09:06 PM (sZTYJ)

954 Thats all she wrote folks. Thats why Romney did it the way he did it tonight. Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 22, 2012 11:51 PM (ovpNn) I still would have liked to have seen Romney slap Obama like the bitch he is.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 09:06 PM (sZTYJ)

955 I'm not rejecting your "kind". I have no problem with you. We are having a rational discussion. Your argument is seriously flawed. Don't blame me for that. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2012 12:55 AM (X3lox) I blame you for your inability to see beyond what is firmly ingrained in your brain. It is easy to give your life meaning. All you have to do is believe it. There is no other meter to apply, no other measurement need be taken. My life has meaning because I say it does. The same rule applies to you, but you don't accept that and you need something more. Okay, whatever.

Posted by: eman at October 22, 2012 09:07 PM (+XD7n)

956 So no one ever loved their own children before Jesus showed up. Right.
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I suggest you consider how pre-Christian societies viewed morality. For the specific example you site in regards to loving one's children, do you consider Carthaginian morality to be on par with Christian?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2012 09:07 PM (AUeaU)

957 950 Of course there is a wrong hole! It's that fishy one with cooties that girls have...

Posted by: Barney Frank, Anti-Cootie Advocate at October 23, 2012 01:03 AM

Huh? Why would girls stick fish up their butts?

Posted by: back door barry soetoro at October 22, 2012 09:08 PM (yBF/9)

958 937 Why would an eternal life have more meaning than a finite one?

Posted by: eman at October 23, 2012 12:53 AM (+XD7n)

Wrong question. The question is, "How could a closed, bounded, finite world hold any meaning?"

It can't.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2012 12:58 AM (X3lox)

my take? an atheistic life says its all pointless, life has no meaning beyond do what feels good for as long as you can get away with it. Suffering has no meaning. There is no greater destiny, no reason to be good when we are not watched, when itdoesnt bring immediate gain beyond the satisfaction of knowing youre "more moral" (vain pride.) It creates a world without magic, without grace, shredded of wonder and leave one vulnerable to despair in ones lowest moments, believing it is all for nothing.

also when you parents die, when your child dies, hell even your pets die there is some comfort in knowing the spark that made them live and special is forever and has gone to dwell in a better place, awaiting you, when you will in time join them, and experience their love and specialness again, in a place without sorrow. Such a belief makes sacrifice possible, and great acts of courage and valour that an atheistic belief in nothing really doesnt encourage.

I mean, if this is all you got why risk throwing it all away being brave, or sacrificing all for some stranger. People only do that if theres some high purpose or spiritual life to look forward to, regardless.

(translation: most believing people would rather risk their life than their soul.) whether or not you think thats dumb is up to you. I think its rather beautiful and compelling.

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at October 22, 2012 09:08 PM (r7Ddb)

959 Let's take a simple analogy.

You log into a forum for a couple of days knowing that it is set to be closed and its servers wiped.

Wrong analogy. I log into a forum that knowing that I will not be able to access it anymore in couple of days. I have no idea what will become of the forum after that.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 09:11 PM (4BBjP)

960 Wrong question. The question is, "How could a closed, bounded, finite world hold any meaning?" It can't. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2012 12:58 AM (X3lox) Tell me about it...

Posted by: Mr. Creosote at October 22, 2012 09:11 PM (sZTYJ)

961 People are practically hard-wired in their brains to be religious. Proof? Most "athiests" are not really athiest, but have a substitute god such as: Themselves, the Proletariat, "the people," "Das Volk," La volontÃ© gÃ©nÃ©rale, &c. And the sacrifices to those gods tend to be bloody ones...

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 09:13 PM (sZTYJ)

962 Religion is definitely a powerful force for good and social order. None of that makes it true.

You confuse effectiveness with accuracy.

As for my being capable of love and concern because I was lucky enough to be raised by Christians, well, you have much to learn, Young Jedi.
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You miss both my points utterly.

The necessity of religion for a functioning society of any complexity is only the most minor of proofs that it is true. The point is that attacking the social system that allows for our society to exist is the height of foolishness unless you specifically which to force society to regress to its pre-Christian state.

It is rather like dumping the engine from your car because you don't like the level of noise it makes when you drive.

And whether you were raised by Christians or hippy-dippy pot heads, you were raised in a Christian society whose morality is based on Christian morality. And for that you should be thankful.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2012 09:14 PM (AUeaU)

963 Also, day walkers? Really? What if you post at night and during the day?

Unemployed smart-ass.

Posted by: DaveA at October 22, 2012 09:15 PM (wcjj2)

964 If you truly love bacon, get yourself a Southern Living cookbook. There's bacon in everything! I have a fantastic guacamole dip recipe- bacon is the key ingredient!

Posted by: Moonbeam at October 22, 2012 09:16 PM (1k4dd)

965 On Twitter: #AdmitItMitt you'll never loved by tyrants like they love #Obama, because you are not "flexible" enough to bend over & take it like a b***h Somewhere in the bowels of hell, Hosrt Wessel is feeling a little less tortured because he is so #ProudofObama Castro, Chaves, Putin, and Ahmadinejad are #ProudofObama | #SCoaMF

Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat) at October 22, 2012 09:17 PM (sZTYJ)

966 It is easy to give your life meaning. All you have to do is believe it. Self-delusion is not meaning, except in the most superficial of ways. Meaning - in the sense that we are talking about - is an intrinsic property, not just some label you can arbitrarily assign to make yourself feel better. If you know that you are just making up a "meaning" for something then you also know that it has no meaning (certainly not the made-up type you invented for it). There is no other meter to apply, no other measurement need be taken. Meaning that you believe in (and assume to be true meaning) is vastly different from meaning that you try to apply to something to make the world seem less vacant for some period of time. My life has meaning because I say it does. The same rule applies to you, but you don't accept that and you need something more. Okay, whatever. Posted by: eman at October 23, 2012 01:07 AM (+XD7n) What meaning could your life possibly have - in terms of your own self-professed atheism? After you die, what will anything matter? I assume that you are not of the type who thinks that you'll be watching from above when you're gone but that you'll just be gone and done for - totally nonexistent. At that point, nothing could possibly matter to you since you won't exist. If you know that is a point that is guaranteed to arrive, then how can say that anything has any meaning other than how it impacts your immediate life, now? Not just say it, but based on what logic do you arrive at such a conclusion? Look. You want to claim you're an atheist. Fine. I don't care. Your belief or lack thereof doesn't affect me in any way. But in the realm of logical discussions there are rules that even atheists have to adhere to. If your total existence will eventually be gone and no more and you will have no feelings or consciousness or anything at all, then you cannot logically argue that you could possibly "care" about anything that happens after that point. Well ... you could argue that you will care but that is because you would be rejecting the idea of a total annihilation of your consciousness and existence at any point. Nothing finite and purely physical carries meaning. That is the cold, hard truth. For there to be any meaning (real meaning, not self-deluded meaning to occupy your time) there must be either a meta-physics of some sort or an infinite existence of something. Take your pick.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 09:19 PM (X3lox)

967
Wrong analogy. I log into a forum that knowing that I will not be able to access it anymore in couple of days. I have no idea what will become of the forum after that.
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No - because in a finite universe not only will you die, so will everything in it. And then it will be as if you never were.

This is as amoral a system as one could imagine - much like my dying server.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2012 09:19 PM (AUeaU)

968 Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at October 23, 2012 01:08 AM (r7Ddb) Well stated.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 09:20 PM (X3lox)

969 you know i was thinking... this belief vs. secular belief discussion would be improved if someone handed out a copy of Mircea Eliade's The Sacred and The Profane.

its a treatise on how there are vestiges of religious like belief in even the most secular atheist because humans really need something to believe in. It traces how our beliefs evilved from the very primitive aboriginal type, through the evolution of man's societies and how beliefs changed with the terrain and the complexity of the society's needs.

Its facinating.

but its all about why we NEED rituals, special places for ourselves and even comfort foods. You will never look at anything you do the same way again.

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at October 22, 2012 09:21 PM (r7Ddb)

970

About those ghosts in the haunted house at the fun park. I was wondering about something. One time, a ghost took my wallet. Why do ghosts need wallets? I don't get it.

Posted by: otho at October 22, 2012 09:22 PM (yBF/9)

971 okay, anybody still here?
I have a cooking question
so I am preparing this
http://allrecipes.com/recipe/herb-roasted-pork/detail.aspx
and the pork has been in the oven almost 2 hrs now, and I'm feeling a bit lazy, not wanting to make the glaze
how will it turn out if I don't make the glaze?

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 09:25 PM (d/5qf)

972 hi gushka!

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 09:25 PM (d/5qf)

973 about religion - eh I don't really think about it all that much. luckily for me I was never baptized. so when I get close to death I will then pick one of those religions where baptism absolves you of all your prior sin, then get baptized, then croak. voila, the loophole to heaven!

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 09:27 PM (d/5qf)

974

PoP, your starting axiom is that "meaning" (which I am not certain you've actually defined, so we might all be arguing apples and oranges) must come from outside the system--which is itself necessarily a logical fallacy, as logic is a system that is defined and provable only by logic itself, and necessarily so. God may be sufficient to give life/humanity meaning, but not necessary.

Incidentally, I've written a couple major papers on Paul of Tarsus and did a senior independent study on Kantian ethics, not to mention subscribe to those views personally, so I think I'm qualified to call your premise malarkey. It's all well and good to say Faith is your basis for finding meaning--but it does not automatically invalidate or even contradict the use of pure rational logic to assign meaning as well.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 09:30 PM (1zwZo)

975 my take? an atheistic life says its all pointless, life has no meaning beyond do what feels good for as long as you can get away with it. Suffering has no meaning. There is no greater destiny, no reason to be good when we are not watched, when itdoesnt bring immediate gain beyond the satisfaction of knowing youre "more moral" (vain pride.) It creates a world without magic, without grace, shredded of wonder and leave one vulnerable to despair in ones lowest moments, believing it is all for nothing.

That is my take on the *theistic* view. As long as God controls everything, nothing you do matters. Your mission in life is to win God's favor so you can go to heaven and he'll make you feel good. It's fucking depressing if you ask me.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 09:30 PM (4BBjP)

976 ok will play devils advocate now. (spoiler i have studies all kinds of belief systems with special emphasis on Shamanism from Mongol/Siberia to Iraq and Turkey for 20 years)

if you truly believe there is nothing that comes after, that upon death there is no point and only total dissolution... its possible a person could feel everything in their life was extra important TO THEM, because its all they will ever get all they will experience, and every death would seem an extra especially tragic tragedy. Because thats it: theres no more lives and no heaven either. This --could-- cause one to be extra moral, believing that the would not want to waist a single precious second of life, since its ALL THEY HAVE GOT.

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at October 22, 2012 09:30 PM (r7Ddb)

977 Re: glaze--without it, the meat will probably be dry.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 09:31 PM (1zwZo)

978 But if I go to heaven, do I still get to suck cock?

Posted by: gerg gerg gerg sucking cock cock cock at October 22, 2012 09:32 PM (d/5qf)

979 What meaning could your life possibly have - in terms of your own self-professed atheism? Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2012 01:19 AM (X3lox) A little mood music? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eQPxFfw_4Q

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 09:33 PM (sZTYJ)

980 No - because in a finite universe not only will you die, so will everything in it. And then it will be as if you never were.

I don't know that the universe is finite. I only know that I am.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 09:33 PM (4BBjP)

981 "In fact Khrushchev had calculated correctly that he could bluff the U.S. into giving a non-intervention guarantee for Cuba and a trade of Soviet missiles in Cuba for NATO missiles in Turkey. " If that was the goal...why actually send missles to Cuba in secret and hope the Yankee spots them? Why not just announce from a podium that you're GOING TO build nuke silos in Cuba, and let JFK buy it back? Saves you the cost of the silos. Sounds like a "yeah...I MEANT to do that" story by a retired dictator.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at October 22, 2012 09:34 PM (i5bkf)

982 The meaning of life? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt84uBuGKNk

Posted by: The Political Hat, Inc., now part of the Really Big Corporation of America at October 22, 2012 09:35 PM (sZTYJ)

983 978 But if I go to heaven, do I still get to suck cock?

Posted by: gerg gerg gerg sucking cock cock cock at October 23, 2012 01:32 AM (d/5qf)

Yes, heaven is full of cocks ripe for sucking.

Posted by: Ask the Imam at October 22, 2012 09:35 PM (4BBjP)

984 Hi gang. Earlier tonight I received a telephone call from Romney HQ here in Massachusetts, informing me that I have been selected to work in the main war room on Election Day. I will be monitoring poll watchers in swing counties around the country (along with 700 other folks) in order to direct the GOTV phone and door efforts in the places that matter the most. I'm honored and really, really excited to have this opportunity. Not to mention getting a chance to see President Romney at the moment he first hears the great news! The moral of the story is, go sign up at the link at the top of the sidebar, and come join the well-organized, highly-sophisticated Election Day operation, and lets get this thing done.

Posted by: Truman North at October 22, 2012 09:36 PM (I2LwF)

985 Look, in a spiritual sense, my life has unlimited meaning. In a physical sense? My life will likely have no meaning after I die, unless I produce heirs or otherwise create something that has enduring effects. It's quite easy to imagine this Universe without God, yes? Does Shakespeare matter in one but not the other? If the answer is yes, please explain.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 09:36 PM (1zwZo)

986 A little mood music? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eQPxFfw_4Q Posted by: The Political Hat at October 23, 2012 01:33 AM (sZTYJ)

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 09:37 PM (X3lox)

987 Without something absolute and objective to give meaning, then its all simply whim and your personal choice. You can call that logic if you want, but that logic is based on something non-material and non-measurable.
Most consistent atheists will be naturalists, that is, they will argue that everything consists exclusively what we can measure and sense, test scientifically. Yet logic, the atheist's favorite fallback, defies that category. So does the philosophy behind naturalism (they use non-naturalistic categories and technique to attempt to prove it).

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 22, 2012 09:38 PM (r4wIV)

988 Chemjeff, the glaze looks like it only takes a few minutes to make, and you have to stay up anyway while it finishes roasting. You could skip it, but it will probably be drier than you want, and pork doesn't have a large margin of error. My advice, defeat the laziness. Or, before you serve the chops, simmer them in the glaze for a few minutes, then top liberally with the glaze. If you're going to do this, pull the pork out of the oven a few minutes early to avoid overcooking.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 09:41 PM (4QAQg)

989 971 okay, anybody still here?
I have a cooking question
so I am preparing this
http://allrecipes.com/recipe/herb-roasted-pork/detail.aspx
and the pork has been in the oven almost 2 hrs now, and I'm feeling a bit lazy, not wanting to make the glaze
how will it turn out if I don't make the glaze?

Posted by: chemjeff at October 23, 2012 01:25 AM (d/5qf)

First, the glaze is more for serving than cooking -- the part that you put on in the last hour of cooking is going to be drowned in the part you serve it with. Second, are you having this tonight? 'Cause you could make that glaze any time.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 09:41 PM (kaalw)

990 What meaning could your life possibly have - in terms of your own self-professed atheism? After you die, what will anything matter?

The question presumes a self-centered wordview.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 09:42 PM (4BBjP)

991
That is my take on the *theistic* view. As long as God controls everything, nothing you do matters. Your mission in life is to win God's favor so you can go to heaven and he'll make you feel good. It's fucking depressing if you ask me.

Posted by: schizoid at October 23, 2012 01:30 AM (4BBjP)

wow. as a person who is not christian i can see what you mean but think you are missing the point of what they are supposed to believe, too. People do not spend their lives trying to curry gods favour if they are christian. Jesus had really stern things about "loving the law without loving each other" (living to curry the favour of the divine and forgetting whats really important.) Even the jewish midrash are really down on that concept. I am not sure if you know this, but most jews dont really believe in afterlife like christians do either. What you have here is all you got. DONT WASTE IT.

but dont be an asshole. then you get the stick. thats utilitarianism, but also a relationship with something bigger gives all that suffering in life a point and like i said gives one a reason to be bigger than oneself when the occasion calls for it.

when i speak of belief is do not confine myself to one system or regional diety. I mean just knowing theres something more out there for human spirit. Which is kind of universal among the different compassion based faiths.

but even Animistic beliefs have a way of putting perspective on loss. I like to say one trives protective shaman is the next tribe's evil wizard. If there is a flood and one tribe loses most of its stock and the other doesnt, its not that they had better barns and planning, its that the evil wizard put a spell on them and they lost their cows so that the rival tribe would not lose any! or in other words: Democrats have always been with us.

this is why their arguments are so powerful. They are old as nomads, just cloaked in new words.

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at October 22, 2012 09:42 PM (r7Ddb)

992 so many gregs in the other thread. its like they were cloned.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 22, 2012 09:43 PM (ovpNn)

993 yup, other thread is the greg sock thread

Posted by: kinlaw at October 22, 2012 09:44 PM (uLTng)

994 As long as God controls everything, nothing you do matters. Your mission in life is to win God's favor so you can go to heaven and he'll make you feel good. It's fucking depressing if you ask me.
I like this kind of comment because it's such an opening. You're a little confused about how Christianity works, but if you want to know and are curious I can fill you in. To put it simply: Christians do not act out of fear of punishment or hope of reward.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 22, 2012 09:44 PM (r4wIV)

995 I don't know that the universe is finite. I only know that I am. Posted by: schizoid at October 23, 2012 01:33 AM (4BBjP) Modern science (which I assume you subscribe to) concerns the eradication of all physical notions of infinity. Modern physics is about the finitization of everything. This is what the 20th century was all about. There are no physical infinities, only mathematical ones. Conventional wisdom is that the universe is finite - closed and bounded, even. In fact, the universe is tiny with there only being something like 10^40 electrons in existence. It might look big, but it isn't, not for encompassing the whole of everything. We are also running under the assumption of a finite lifetime for the universe with an inevitable heat-death. Perhaps a new big bang later, but just to run the same physical program over and over and over doesn't add up to all too much. Of course, most people intuitively reject this notion and constantly search for ... something else. Some ... meaning. So, if you consider the physical universe infinite, in any way, then you are working in direct opposition to modern science.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 09:45 PM (X3lox)

996 I was never much for religion, but appreciate the somewhat moral people it does produce. I used to ride the fence on it, I felt that there was "something" to it, but was never really sure. The night my mom died something pretty frigging hard to ignore happened. That night in a somewhat cliche fashion I asked her for a sign that she was ok, and a physical ailment I was dealing with for 7 years vanished by the time I woke up the next morning. I don't ride the fence anymore. Still not a church going type, but I'm not so quick to dismiss religion like I used to.

Posted by: Berserker at October 22, 2012 09:45 PM (FMbng)

997 so this is the religion thread

got it

Posted by: kinlaw at October 22, 2012 09:47 PM (uLTng)

998 977 Re: glaze--without it, the meat will probably be dry.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 23, 2012 01:31 AM (1zwZo)

It will be more dry, but probably not dry in an absolute sense. The sugar and cornstarch could harden and seal moisture into the roast, but only if applied at the beginning of cooking.....2-1/2 hours into a 3 hour roast is probably too late. It's also a fairly low roasting temp, so I'm thinking it will have already done what it was going to long before.

That said, when you take it out of the oven, be sure to let the meat "rest" for 10 minutes before you carve or put it away -- easiest way is to make a "pup tent" of tinfoil and put it over the roast wherever you stash it. This period will allow the juices to redistribute themselves around while things cool a bit.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 09:47 PM (kaalw)

999 So, if you consider the physical universe infinite, in any way, then you are working in direct opposition to modern science.
It does tend to negate the big bang theory. The universe is incredibly vast (in terms of real estate) because of the massive distances involved, but the actual matter is relatively small.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 22, 2012 09:48 PM (r4wIV)

1000 Earlier tonight I received a telephone call from Romney HQ here in Massachusetts, informing me that I have been selected to work in the main war room on Election Day. Posted by: Truman North at October 23, 2012 01:36 AM (I2LwF) Good man. I'm volunteering to do poll watching during early voting here (70-80% of the vote here will be early vote). Romney's people are busing in a lot of people to Nevada to help out (since the GOP here are controlled by Ron Paul cultists who want to see Romney fail), and is already booked solid with volunteers.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 09:49 PM (sZTYJ)

1001 987 Without something absolute and objective to give meaning, then its all simply whim and your personal choice. You can call that logic if you want, but that logic is based on something non-material and non-measurable.

Logic can't prove anything except from premises that are accepted on faith. On that point I agree.

But it's all whim and personal choice. Why do you choose to follow God instead of Satan?

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 09:49 PM (4BBjP)

1002 What cthullu said. Do not carve it right out of the oven, and do not throw it in the fridge until it cools on the counter for a while.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 09:50 PM (4QAQg)

1003 988 Chemjeff, the glaze looks like it only takes a few minutes to make, and you have to stay up anyway while it finishes roasting. You could skip it, but it will probably be drier than you want, and pork doesn't have a large margin of error.

My advice, defeat the laziness.

Or, before you serve the chops, simmer them in the glaze for a few minutes, then top liberally with the glaze. If you're going to do this, pull the pork out of the oven a few minutes early to avoid overcooking.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 23, 2012 01:41 AM (4QAQg)

Ooh, I'm liking this last suggestion.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 09:50 PM (kaalw)

1004 I like this kind of comment because it's such an opening. You're a little confused about how Christianity works, but if you want to know and are curious I can fill you in. To put it simply: Christians do not act out of fear of punishment or hope of reward. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 23, 2012 01:44 AM (r4wIV) You mean it is not about a nice young Jewish boy who went into the family's business until he starting hanging around a whore, after which they nailed him to a cross?

Posted by: Nice Jewish Mother stereotype at October 22, 2012 09:51 PM (sZTYJ)

1005 Well, I defeated the laziness and the glaze is simmering now.

The new plan was to brush it with the glaze, then take it out of the oven, then dump the rest of the glaze over it, then let it cool on the stovetop while I go to bed, then stick it in the fridge in the morning.

Bad idea?

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 09:52 PM (d/5qf)

1006 But it's all whim and personal choice. Why do you choose to follow God instead of Satan? Posted by: schizoid at October 23, 2012 01:49 AM (4BBjP) Because Satan has has cookies...

Posted by: Anton LeVey at October 22, 2012 09:52 PM (sZTYJ)

1007 Oh and mind you I'm not picky, it just has to be edible, if it's a little dry or even a lot dry I don't really care all that much.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 09:52 PM (d/5qf)

1008 Hey Truman that is great news. Say hi to the Mittster for me

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 09:53 PM (d/5qf)

1009 Ha! DC and I liked each other's suggestions and cross-posted.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 09:53 PM (kaalw)

1010 Probably shouldn't let it sit out for 6-8 hours. Otherwise it sounds reasonable.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 09:53 PM (1zwZo)

1011 But it's all whim and personal choice. Why do you choose to follow God instead of Satan?
Whether its choice or not is really irrelevant, what matters is what is true or not. Making a personal choice is what we do every day, all day long. Why we make the choices and what they represent is the main thing.
Its like faith: faith that your car will start when you turn the key or that your wife isn't cheating on you while you're at work is the same exercise and experience as faith in a theistic creator. The difference is in the object of your faith.
What matters is whether or not you believe in what is true, not that you believe or not.
As it turns out, Christianity teaches you don't actually have a choice in the matter, that you're saved by the gracious act of God, bringing you to spiritual life from death. So its out of your hands/

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 22, 2012 09:54 PM (r4wIV)

1012

Still waiting for an answer if Shakespeare matters or not in a God-less universe.

Also haven't heard the argument for how logic is not internally defined.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 09:56 PM (1zwZo)

1013 1005 Well, I defeated the laziness and the glaze is simmering now.

The new plan was to brush it with the glaze, then take it out of the oven, then dump the rest of the glaze over it, then let it cool on the stovetop while I go to bed, then stick it in the fridge in the morning.

Bad idea?

Posted by: chemjeff at October 23, 2012 01:52 AM (d/5qf)

Bad idea.

You can keep stuff for extended periods above about 140 degrees or below about 40 degrees (there are real numbers for this, but I'm too lazy to look them up), but between there is "bacteria reproduction optimal". Cool stuff on your cooktop until it hits the top of the range, then get it into the fridge where it will be below the bottom -- but DO NOT leave it within the range overnight.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 09:56 PM (kaalw)

1014 To put it simply: Christians do not act out of fear of punishment or hope of reward.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 23, 2012 01:44 AM (r4wIV)

Then please tell me what Christians do act out of. I can only think of one other possibility: they have read the teachings of Jesus and judged them to be correct, which means that they are following their own sense of morality just as atheists do.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 09:57 PM (4BBjP)

1015 it, then let it cool on the stovetop while I go to bed, then stick it in the fridge in the morning. Bad idea? Posted by: chemjeff at October 23, 2012 01:52 AM (d/5qf) Ask your biologist.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 09:57 PM (bxiXv)

1016 the answer is 42

Posted by: Ball of Hate at October 22, 2012 09:57 PM (AREf/)

1017 oh, another meat question.
so I have heard that it is bad to defrost meat in the fridge, then put it back in the freezer. why is this?

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 09:57 PM (d/5qf)

1018 cthulhu, okay, I will put it in the fridge right away after adding the glaze

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 09:59 PM (d/5qf)

1019 Taylor, not entirely true. Catholicism explicitly calls for works AND faith--most other branches of Christianity do have a doctrine of faith alone, but it is at least misleading to say Christianity teaches salvation is out of your hands.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 09:59 PM (1zwZo)

1020 The range is 41 to 135 according to http://brazoshealth.org/EHS/FoodHand/temp.php -- not bad for off the cuff, eh?

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 10:00 PM (kaalw)

1021 so I have heard that it is bad to defrost meat in the fridge, then put it back in the freezer. why is this? Posted by: chemjeff at October 23, 2012 01:57 AM (d/5qf) Well, it's not so bad if you like mushy meat. Ice crystals. Cells full of water. Not a great mix. Generally refreezing does that. I think there are some minor exceptions. You could try cutting the meat into small pieces and tumbling it with dry ice. Carefully.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 10:01 PM (bxiXv)

1022 1017 oh, another meat question.
so I have heard that it is bad to defrost meat in the fridge, then put it back in the freezer. why is this?

Posted by: chemjeff at October 23, 2012 01:57 AM (d/5qf)

My understanding is that going through that cycle multiple times will freeze-dry the meat. If you're looking to create new "high-tech" forms of jerky, I don't see any issues.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 10:02 PM (kaalw)

1023 Then please tell me what Christians do act out of. I can only think of one other possibility: they have read the teachings of Jesus and judged them to be correct, which means that they are following their own sense of morality just as atheists do.
There's another category: gratitude. Christians respond to the immense love and salvation that was given them freely by God in gratitude and love. Its like this.
What if someone found your wallet and gave it back to you, how grateful would you be?
Now say, the wallet had all the cash and credit cards in it, intact. How grateful now?
What if the guy who bent down to pick up your wallet pushed you out of the way of a car as he did so. How grateful are you now?
What if he did so and died in your place, saving your life?
Think to the last scene of Saving Private Ryan where the old Ryan is at the grave weeping, telling the men who died he's tried, tried so hard to live a life worthy of their sacrifice. That's a glimpse of what it is like.
Gratitude is the key, its why Christians, when they are behaving correctly, do what they do. They can't ever pay back such an immense and loving act of sacrifice. Ever.
We're lousy at it. We fail, we mess up, we forget, we act like we don't care, we keep getting it wrong. Christians are terrible witnesses of this love and sacrifice, we're shameful. But we keep trying and keep getting back up and each time God takes us in His arms and says "you were forgiven 2000 years ago, now go make me proud."

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 22, 2012 10:02 PM (r4wIV)

1024 1018 cthulhu, okay, I will put it in the fridge right away after adding the glaze Posted by: chemjeff at October 23, 2012 01:59 AM (d/5qf) You're going to radically increase temps and humidity in your fridge and possibly freezer. I don't have an immediate answer to that. Maybe a quick cooldown before putting it in the fridge. Ice packs under the pan? Haven't tried it, usually eat food after I cook it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 10:03 PM (bxiXv)

1025 Modern science (which I assume you subscribe to) concerns the eradication of all physical notions of infinity. Modern physics is about the finitization of everything. This is what the 20th century was all about. There are no physical infinities, only mathematical ones.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2012 01:45 AM (X3lox)

You assume wrong. The Standard Model is our best guess based on what we know. But we've only been observing a tiny corner of the universe for a very limited time, so it's pure folly to think that what we know is all there is. I have no doubt the Standard Model will be revised and revised again in the years to come. I consider the "Big Bang" to be just another creation myth.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 10:04 PM (4BBjP)

1026 844 803
Posted by: Dianna at October 23, 2012 12:08 AM (mKMj1)

Ok, if you say so.

Posted by: Elizabethe mostly lurks with brownies edition

Regard me as generally harmless, if easily taken as F.I.N.E. - Freaked out, Insecure, Neurotic and Edgy. To say nothing of armed. With martial arts skills, swords, and compound bows, to say nothing of canes.

Posted by: Dianna at October 23, 2012 12:18 AM (mKMj1)

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius at October 22, 2012 10:05 PM (xuRIa)

1027 After the final debate, the MFM admits that Romney met the "Commander In Chief Test." Its all over but the voting.

Popular vote

Romney 52

Obama 48

Electoral Vote

Romney 305

Obama 233

Posted by: cm9000 at October 22, 2012 10:05 PM (vfB2N)

1028 it is at least misleading to say Christianity teaches salvation is out of your hands.
That's true, I should have said "Biblical Christianity"

I'm a Calvinist, and that's what we understand the Bible to teach when it says things like "not of works lest any man boast."

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 22, 2012 10:05 PM (r4wIV)

1029 Well, that didn't go well. I'd better leave the typing to others tonight.

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at October 22, 2012 10:06 PM (xuRIa)

1030 Chemjeff, no quick solution here. Putting hot food in the fridge will cause condensation in the container. Not awful, but one of my pet peeves wrt food. Much better than letting it sit overnight on the counter. A soggy chop won't give you any nasty bugs.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 10:07 PM (4QAQg)

1031

I should have guessed you were a Calvinist based on that statement. Not a bad lot, but I suppose I'm predestined to not agree with predestination

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 10:08 PM (1zwZo)

1032 You assume wrong.

Well, I don't know. Astronomy tells us the universe is expanding. Can the universe be infinite, and also expanding? If it's expanding, what is it expanding into, if the universe is already infinite?

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 10:08 PM (d/5qf)

1033 The left will start to really lose thier shit now. It's gonna be epic

Posted by: Zakn at October 22, 2012 10:09 PM (LbwgI)

1034 Hi Zakn, how was Lost Wages

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 10:10 PM (d/5qf)

1035

Maybe a two-stage container--perforated foil inside Tupperware? Honestly, as a bachelor leftovers rarely survived long enough for preservation techniques to matter much to me, and now that I'm married leftovers are a rare thing.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 10:10 PM (1zwZo)

1036 Carl Sagan was a big fan of the infinite, eternal universe too, but there's absolutely zero scientific, logical, or common sense evidence to support that. Its handy if you want a cosmology that lets you worship the universe, in effect, but its without any real merit other than hope and faith.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 22, 2012 10:10 PM (r4wIV)

1037 Putting hot food in the fridge will cause condensation in the container.

eh - I'm not picky. as long as it's edible.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 10:10 PM (d/5qf)

1038
The three most useless tits ever:

http://tinyurl.com/9x93x7p

And with that i bid you goodnight.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 22, 2012 10:11 PM (ovpNn)

1039 "My side is pure and blessed. Your side is ugly and smells like rotten cabbage."

Posted by: Robert sums up the ongoing arguments at October 22, 2012 10:11 PM (4ixH5)

1040 Vegas was awesome CJ. I will shoot you the picture roll on Twitter

Posted by: Zakn at October 22, 2012 10:11 PM (LbwgI)

1041 Honestly, as a bachelor leftovers rarely survived long enough for preservation techniques to matter much to me, and now that I'm married leftovers are a rare thing.

really? I've always been a bachelor and I live off leftovers

I've just never prepared a pork roast before

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 10:11 PM (d/5qf)

1042 1024 1018 cthulhu, okay, I will put it in the fridge right away after adding the glaze
Posted by: chemjeff at October 23, 2012 01:59 AM (d/5qf)

You're going to radically increase temps and humidity in your fridge and possibly freezer. I don't have an immediate answer to that.

Maybe a quick cooldown before putting it in the fridge. Ice packs under the pan? Haven't tried it, usually eat food after I cook it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 23, 2012 02:03 AM (bxiXv)

I was assuming that he was going to refrigerate it in some sort of closed container. As such, it shouldn't raise the overall temp of the fridge very much, and although it will linger in the danger zone a tad, it should cool through it in a reasonable time. After all, going from 135 degrees to 40 is going to take a finite amount of time no matter what you do. [As a side note, any time you can avoid exposure to bacteria/fungi/etc., it increases your safety factor. If you have store-bought plastic-wrapped cheese all the way up to room temperature and put it back in the fridge, it may still make it to the "sell-by" date.....but if you unwrap it, put it on a cheese plate, have 20 guests shuffle by stirring up dust while it warms to room temperature, and then put it back in the fridge, you'll be lucky if it makes it a week.]

If he put it into the fridge without a cover, it would (a) possibly heat other items, but (b) also dry the ever-loving-crap out of exposed peaks of it to the point that not even a glaze could salvage it.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 10:11 PM (kaalw)

1043 The Greg socks are really something to behold in the other thread--but the socking and trolling has become so meta that it may implode into a singularity before much longer...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 10:12 PM (1zwZo)

1044 I'm not here. Catching up on reading.

Totally not looking at porn.

*Cough*

Posted by: Robert at October 22, 2012 10:12 PM (4ixH5)

1045 Robert! Where ya been hiding, mano?

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 10:12 PM (4QAQg)

1046 What if someone found your wallet and gave it back to you, how grateful would you be?

That would feel really good, and would make me have good feelings toward that person. It would also inspire me to do similar things myself, because it feels good to make other people feel good and have good feelings toward me. That's because I'm an "if it feels good, do it" kind of guy.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 10:13 PM (4BBjP)

1047 1039 "My side is pure and blessed. Your side is ugly and smells like rotten cabbage."

Posted by: Robert sums up the ongoing arguments at October 23, 2012 02:11 AM (4ixH5)

Hey, Robert!!!! Where have you been hidin' yourself?

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 10:14 PM (kaalw)

1048 DC, that's gettin' scary.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 10:15 PM (kaalw)

1049 1044 I'm not here. Catching up on reading. Totally not looking at porn. *Cough* Posted by: Robert at October 23, 2012 02:12 AM (4ixH5) I call bullshit. You are, in fact, not looking at porn, because that's a work hash. As is mine, damnitalltothebowelsofsevenhells.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 10:15 PM (4QAQg)

1050 Astronomy tells us the universe is expanding. Can the universe be infinite, and also expanding? If it's expanding, what is it expanding into, if the universe is already infinite? Posted by: chemjeff at October 23, 2012 02:08 AM (d/5qf) That's a terminology error. The visible universe appears to be expanding. That doesn't answer the question of whether anything outside that observed phenomena exists, interacts with it, or is required to do either. Is it a balloon pushing air aside, or expanding into a vacuum? None of the above?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 10:15 PM (bxiXv)

1051 Get outta my head, elder god!

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 10:15 PM (4QAQg)

1052 well, I was planning on just putting the whole roasting pan in the fridge
but okay I'll put it in some container

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 10:16 PM (d/5qf)

1053 That would feel really good, and would make me have good feelings toward that person.
That would be called "gratitude." You get the concept.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 22, 2012 10:16 PM (r4wIV)

1054 Where ya been hiding, mano?

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 23, 2012 02:12 AM (4QAQg)

Burned out on news and catching up on reading. And being kind of a miserable sod as the Brits might say. And tired. Reeeaaallllyyyy tired.

Why, sleep, must thou eludest me so?

Anyway...

Catch ya!

Posted by: Robert at October 22, 2012 10:18 PM (4ixH5)

1055 The left is going hog wild over the "horses and bayonets" line from Obama tonight. They are beclowning themselves with that little reference... Heh.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 10:18 PM (sZTYJ)

1056 I was assuming that he was going to refrigerate it in some sort of closed container. Posted by: cthulhu at October 23, 2012 02:11 AM (kaalw) Heh. I figured, as a bachelor who thought a glaze would be too hard to make, roasting pan and Saran wrap.

And that heat has to go somewhere, though you're quite correct that an insulated container will just keep the meat in the danger zone.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 10:19 PM (bxiXv)

1057 I would agree, however, that we've reached the practical limits of what scientists can genuinely learn and work with in terms of cosmology, at least, if not particle physics. Until we have another jump, a "quantum leap" in scientific understanding, like, say, when DNA was understood, or when electricity was really understood... all we're going to get is lots of theorizing, each more outrageous than the next.
That's why I've never been very impressed with Stephen Hawking. Almost all of his work is this kind of impressive sounding and inventive theorizing but its about as valid and useful as theories about how many turtles are under the one the earth sits on in 1100.
My guess is the next big jump in understanding, if we get it, will be in gravity, which is still pretty much a puzzler for scientists.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 22, 2012 10:19 PM (r4wIV)

1058

1044 I'm not here. Catching up on reading.

Totally not looking at porn.

*Cough*

Posted by: Robert at October 23, 2012 02:12 AM (4ixH5)

How about some Metal Pron?

In This Moment - Blood http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZF5m-vmDzM

Posted by: buzzion at October 22, 2012 10:20 PM (GULKT)

1059

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 23, 2012 02:15 AM (bxiXv)

Hmm, I suppose it depends on your definition of "universe".

If you define "universe" as "everything", then by definition the universe has to be infinite.

But if you define "universe" as "everything observable", then it may or may not be infinite.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 10:22 PM (d/5qf)

1060 Well, I don't know. Astronomy tells us the universe is expanding. Can the universe be infinite, and also expanding? If it's expanding, what is it expanding into, if the universe is already infinite?

Posted by: chemjeff at October 23, 2012 02:08 AM (d/5qf)

I always thought it would make more sense to say that the speed of light, which defines our units of length, is slowing down. Imagine if all the rulers in the universe were shrinking. That would make your dick seem to expand, even if it were infinitely large.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 10:22 PM (daSP4)

1061 Actually, I was reviewing the Broward county link I got the numbers from, and it's pretty thorough.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 10:22 PM (kaalw)

1062

Gentleman Jack is gone, and now, so am I. Good night morons.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2012 10:23 PM (1zwZo)

1063 1055 The left is going hog wild over the "horses and bayonets" line from Obama tonight. Posted by: The Political Hat at October 23, 2012 02:18 AM (sZTYJ) Well, it was juvenile, condescending, and wrong on all counts. So, not surprising they loved it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 10:24 PM (bxiXv)

1064 Posted by: buzzion at October 23, 2012 02:20 AM (GULKT) Metal pron, you say? http://pxlpl.us/lw53

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 10:25 PM (4QAQg)

1065 Metal pron, you say?

http://pxlpl.us/lw53

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 23, 2012 02:25 AM (4QAQg)

"Sorry that track could not be found"

Posted by: buzzion at October 22, 2012 10:26 PM (GULKT)

1066

Posted by: schizoid at October 23, 2012 02:22 AM (daSP4)

But we don't observe light slowing down here on earth.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 10:27 PM (d/5qf)

1067 Not a track, sfw cheesecake shot of the chock from in this moment

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 10:30 PM (4QAQg)

1068 1066
Posted by: schizoid at October 23, 2012 02:22 AM (daSP4)
But we don't observe light slowing down here on earth.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 23, 2012 02:27 AM (d/5qf)

So many things are calibrated to light, it's possible that those few that are not are slowing/shrinking themselves. Reminds me of a dealie about whether we could tell if we were in the process of falling into a black hole -- the only detectable distortion would be tidal effects.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 10:31 PM (kaalw)

1069 Posted by: schizoid at October 23, 2012 02:22 AM (daSP4)
But we don't observe light slowing down here on earth.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 23, 2012 02:27 AM (d/5qf)

Because our rulers are shrinking to match. The MKS system of units makes the speed of light constant by definition.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 10:32 PM (hPUyc)

1070 Hmm, let's try it this way http://www.last.fm/music/In+This+Moment/+images/43299335

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 10:32 PM (4QAQg)

1071 And now, the legend of Robert Johnson, courtesy the Marshall Tucker Band:
http://youtu.be/WRQ6c8vM7SE

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 22, 2012 10:33 PM (r4wIV)

1072 One more. http://www.last.fm/music/In+This+Moment/+images/36870705

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 10:33 PM (4QAQg)

1073 Yeah those work DC.

Posted by: buzzion at October 22, 2012 10:37 PM (GULKT)

1074 And I guess I'm talking to myself, but that's about normal. Anyway, even though she's not what I consider hot, I would do awful, awful things to the broad from Halestorm. Has a sex appeal that makes me feel funny in the pants.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 10:38 PM (4QAQg)

1075 1053 That would feel really good, and would make me have good feelings toward that person.

That would be called "gratitude." You get the concept.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 23, 2012 02:16 AM (r4wIV)

Do I? I've always thought that Christians do what they do because it feels good, but they usually tell me there's a higher reason.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 10:39 PM (hPUyc)

1076 well, yeah, c is defined to be a constant, but the speed of light is still a measurable quantity.

the Michelson-Morley experiment pretty much proved that it was a constant.

I have my doubts on the "variable light speed" hypothesis

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 10:40 PM (d/5qf)

1077 Do I? I've always thought that Christians do what they do because it feels good, but they usually tell me there's a higher reason.
You call it "because it makes me feel good" but the actual response is out of gratitude, an outward directed reaction focused on the person to whom you feel grateful. That's not about how you feel at all, it is about what they did for you and the memory of it.
Over time that might become more self-directed and internal, but initially at least, its almost entirely selfless. Not about how you feel at all.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 22, 2012 10:41 PM (r4wIV)

1078 BTW, CJ -- if you'd asked me beforehand, I'd have said double the sage, go half-again the pepper, double the garlic, omit the salt, add a teaspoon of savory and a pinch of dried mustard, and combine with enough melted butter and/or extra-virgin olive oil (EVOO) to make a paste. Use a small silicone brush to coat the loin with the paste, not omitting the underside.

I did a tri-tip in similar fashion about a week ago -- except it was ground black pepper, garlic powder, ground sage, mustard powder, hot new mexico chili, california chili, and pasilla chili, with just EVOO. BTW, pasilla chili is teh sekrit ingrediament....get a little 69-cent pack and try it -- it is not hot, not really spicy as such, and fills in an earthy richness to just about anything. You can even put it in an omelet.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 10:41 PM (kaalw)

1079 1074 And I guess I'm talking to myself, but that's about normal.

Anyway, even though she's not what I consider hot, I would do awful, awful things to the broad from Halestorm. Has a sex appeal that makes me feel funny in the pants.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 23, 2012 02:38 AM (4QAQg)

I got to see them live. They actually play their stuff harder than the album versions. And she can scream fucking loud.

Posted by: buzzion at October 22, 2012 10:43 PM (GULKT)

1080 1076 well, yeah, c is defined to be a constant, but the speed of light is still a measurable quantity.

the Michelson-Morley experiment pretty much proved that it was a constant.

I have my doubts on the "variable light speed" hypothesis

Posted by: chemjeff at October 23, 2012 02:40 AM (d/5qf)

In my limited understanding, the speed of light is a constant -- it's the meters and seconds that do the changing.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 10:45 PM (kaalw)

1081 good discussion on constant-speed-of-light idea:

http://tinyurl.com/3yzv

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 10:49 PM (d/5qf)

1082 I got to see them live. They actually play their stuff harder than the album versions. And she can scream fucking loud. Outstanding. I don't do concerts much, but that and FFDP would get me out for a show. Well, before Ivan Moody got all beta male and whiny.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 22, 2012 10:49 PM (4QAQg)

1083

Posted by: cthulhu at October 23, 2012 02:41 AM (kaalw)

thanx, maybe I will try that for the next one, but this is my very first pork roast of any type so I figured I should probably follow the recipe

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 10:53 PM (d/5qf)

1084 In my limited understanding, the speed of light is a constant -- it's the meters and seconds that do the changing. Posted by: cthulhu at October 23, 2012 02:45 AM (kaalw) In Relativity Theory, light is the fundamental entity from which meters and seconds are defined. Everything is measured in terms of light because it is the only constant. Most of relativity Theory can be derived from the one assumption that the speed of light is constant in all inertial frames. A meter is always a meter in the same inertial frame. It's only from another frame that the meter is measured as being different from a meter. Similarly, in Quantum Theory, much is derived from the constancy of the electron. Of course, in Quantum Theory, there's really no such thing as motion. Things are just observed at discrete times and don't really "travel" in between. They are at one one place and then they are at another place, but they haven't taken a path from one to the other (in the mathematics, they have taken every path from one place to the other). Quantum Theory also introduces the idea that there are no laws for the physical universe but only meta-laws which carry probabilities that give the appearance of physical laws when one carries out a large number of discrete observations.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 10:57 PM (X3lox)

1085 1076 well, yeah, c is defined to be a constant, but the speed of light is still a measurable quantity.

the Michelson-Morley experiment pretty much proved that it was a constant.

I have my doubts on the "variable light speed" hypothesis

Posted by: chemjeff at October 23, 2012 02:40 AM (d/5qf)

You can measure the speed of light using the old meter-bar-in-Paris standard and you will get a constant. But the universe isn't expanding fast enough to affect the meter bar in Paris.

It's only when measuring very large lengths with the modern "distance traveled by light in time t" standard that you see lengths getting longer. Then you have a choice: you can say that lengths really are getting longer or the speed of light is getting slower. The standard model says the former but IMO the latter is equally valid.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 11:00 PM (hPUyc)

1086 YAY RAIN!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 11:00 PM (bxiXv)

1087 1082 I got to see them live. They actually play their stuff harder than the album versions. And she can scream fucking loud.

Outstanding. I don't do concerts much, but that and FFDP would get me out for a show. Well, before Ivan Moody got all beta male and whiny.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 23, 2012 02:49 AM (4QAQg)

Hell the only reason I went is that my friends' band was one of the opening bands for the night.

Posted by: buzzion at October 22, 2012 11:02 PM (GULKT)

1088 Re: Atheism and Morality Discussions To categorically state there is no god is as religious a position as to categorically state there is a god or that the nature of god is thus and so. There is no concrete evidence either way. Trace the questions of "who are we?," "where do come from?," and "where are going?" back to their roots, and "it just happened" is as silly a theology or philosophy as any other. I do not know what it all means, I just reject nihilism as unsupportable as any ancient middle eastern mythology. I consider myself a spiritual agnostic who supports moral behavior to engender a stable society in which my children and their children have the optimal chance for survival. Robert Heinlein said, "A zygote is a gamete's way of producing more gametes. This may be the purpose of the universe." He may have been on to something.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at October 22, 2012 11:03 PM (jts1f)

1089 Posted by: schizoid at October 23, 2012 03:00 AM (hPUyc) The idea that the universe is expanding is due to the red shift that indicates that galaxies are all moving away from us, not because anyone is measuring some "fixed" distance that seems to be changing, which doesn't happen.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 11:04 PM (X3lox)

1090 You can measure the speed of light using the old meter-bar-in-Paris standard and you will get a constant. But the universe isn't expanding fast enough to affect the meter bar in Paris. It's only when measuring very large lengths with the modern "distance traveled by light in time t" standard that you see lengths getting longer. Then you have a choice: you can say that lengths really are getting longer or the speed of light is getting slower. The standard model says the former but IMO the latter is equally valid. Posted by: schizoid at October 23, 2012 03:00 AM (hPUyc) The meter is currently defined BY the speed of light (from Ãže Olde Wikipedia): "Length of the path travelled by light in a vacuum in 1⁄299,792,458 of a second (17th CGPM)"

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 11:06 PM (sZTYJ)

1091 TPOP, well almost, (non-relativistic) quantum mechanics does assume that the Law of Conservation of Energy is correct

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 11:06 PM (d/5qf)

1092 1084 In my limited understanding, the speed of light is a constant -- it's the meters and seconds that do the changing.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 23, 2012 02:45 AM (kaalw)

In Relativity Theory, light is the fundamental entity from which meters and seconds are defined. Everything is measured in terms of light because it is the only constant. Most of relativity Theory can be derived from the one assumption that the speed of light is constant in all inertial frames. A meter is always a meter in the same inertial frame. It's only from another frame that the meter is measured as being different from a meter.

Similarly, in Quantum Theory, much is derived from the constancy of the electron. Of course, in Quantum Theory, there's really no such thing as motion. Things are just observed at discrete times and don't really "travel" in between. They are at one one place and then they are at another place, but they haven't taken a path from one to the other (in the mathematics, they have taken every path from one place to the other). Quantum Theory also introduces the idea that there are no laws for the physical universe but only meta-laws which carry probabilities that give the appearance of physical laws when one carries out a large number of discrete observations.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2012 02:57 AM (X3lox)

Yup.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2012 11:07 PM (kaalw)

1093 TPOP, also, you can have motion in QM - it is the motion of a wave packet

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 11:08 PM (d/5qf)

1094 TPOP, well almost, (non-relativistic) quantum mechanics does assume that the Law of Conservation of Energy is correct Posted by: chemjeff at October 23, 2012 03:06 AM (d/5qf) Absolutely true. And other parts, too. That's why I only said "much" of it. I was skipping other details for the sake of the basic narrative - though they are extremely important, of course.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 11:09 PM (X3lox)

1095 Whenever I think about relativistic effects, alternative frames of reference, and no-relativistic quantum phenomenon ... multidimensional cosmology comes to mind. Check out this mind bender video. Imagining the 10th dimension postulated from string theory. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q_GQqUg6Ts

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at October 22, 2012 11:11 PM (jts1f)

1096 Imagining the 10th dimension postulated from string theory. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q_GQqUg6Ts Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at October 23, 2012 03:11 AM (jts1f) Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/~banchoff/Flatland/

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 11:13 PM (sZTYJ)

1097 The idea that the universe is expanding is due to the red shift that indicates that galaxies are all moving away from us, not because anyone is measuring some "fixed" distance that seems to be changing, which doesn't happen.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2012 03:04 AM (X3lox)

Wouldn't decreasing c cause the same red shift?

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 11:18 PM (hPUyc)

1098 TPOP, also, you can have motion in QM - it is the motion of a wave packet Posted by: chemjeff at October 23, 2012 03:08 AM (d/5qf) Are you talking about the evolution of the quantum state? It is described in continuous terms in between observations, but is still subject to probabilistic jump discontinuities upon measurement.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 11:19 PM (X3lox)

1099 984 Hi gang.

Earlier tonight I received a telephone call from Romney HQ here in Massachusetts, informing me that I have been selected to work in the main war room on Election Day.

I will be monitoring poll watchers in swing counties around the country (along with 700 other folks) in order to direct the GOTV phone and door efforts in the places that matter the most.

I'm honored and really, really excited to have this opportunity. Not to mention getting a chance to see President Romney at the moment he first hears the great news!

The moral of the story is, go sign up at the link at the top of the sidebar, and come join the well-organized, highly-sophisticated Election Day operation, and lets get this thing done.

Posted by: Truman North at October 23, 2012 01:36 AM (I2LwF)

Congratulations! Have a great time and soak in every ounce of history as it's made.

Posted by: George W Beagle at October 22, 2012 11:22 PM (JwW4z)

1100 1096 Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/~banchoff/Flatland/ Posted by: The Political Hat at October 23, 2012 03:13 AM (sZTYJ) Now that is old school! A classic thought experiment from a time before particle physics.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at October 22, 2012 11:22 PM (jts1f)

1101 Imagining the 10th dimension postulated from string theory. Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at October 23, 2012 03:11 AM (jts1f) Okay, I just got a call from Amnesty International about what the person who wrote that video did to the concept of geometric dimensions and the very act of creating a metaphor itself.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 11:23 PM (bxiXv)

1102 I consider myself a spiritual agnostic who supports moral behavior to engender a stable society in which my children and their children have the optimal chance for survival.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at October 23, 2012 03:03 AM (jts1f)

This.

Moral behavior creates stable societies. Immoral behavior creates hellholes. There is no need to look to a higher power for a reason to act morally.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 11:23 PM (hPUyc)

1103 Wouldn't decreasing c cause the same red shift? Posted by: schizoid at October 23, 2012 03:18 AM (hPUyc) I don't know. Offhand I would guess that decreasing c from a fixed point would yield a blue shift as the waves bunched up on approach. But, I don't know. If you took this assumption, though, I would guess (also offhand) that you would have to see some major differences in near objects and those at the edge of the visible universe, since the difference is billions of years of light travel. The point is that there is no assumption that the galaxies being measured aren't moving (i.e. fixed distances) but just the opposite, which is how the hypothesis of the expanding universe came to be.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2012 11:28 PM (X3lox)

1104 Iron Man 3 looks damn good

Posted by: The Dude at October 22, 2012 11:28 PM (tw6Ar)

1105 TPOP, yes

anyway, going to bed

that was a cool ten-dimension video

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 11:29 PM (d/5qf)

1106 and thank you all for your cooking advice and the interesting discussions

Posted by: chemjeff at October 22, 2012 11:29 PM (d/5qf)

1107 even with a white Mandarin being a really odd choice

Posted by: The Dude at October 22, 2012 11:31 PM (tw6Ar)

1108 This. Moral behavior creates stable societies. Immoral behavior creates hellholes. There is no need to look to a higher power for a reason to act morally. Posted by: schizoid at October 23, 2012 03:23 AM (hPUyc) Your killing my buzz man!

Posted by: Transgendered Choom-smoking Hippie at October 22, 2012 11:35 PM (sZTYJ)

1109 1101 Okay, I just got a call from Amnesty International about what the person who wrote that video did to the concept of geometric dimensions and the very act of creating a metaphor itself. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 23, 2012 03:23 AM (bxiXv) Glad you and ChemJeff enjoyed it. And now I too am off to bed, perhaps to dream of n-dimensional beings doing the quantum backstroke across the Primordial sea of probabilistic jump discontinuities.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at October 22, 2012 11:37 PM (jts1f)

1110 1107 even with a white Mandarin being a really odd choice Posted by: The Dude at October 23, 2012 03:31 AM (tw6Ar) You know, I *totally* missed the "Ten Rings" reference in Iron Man 1.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 11:40 PM (bxiXv)

1111 Seriously, dimensions 1-3 are geometric and exist in a framework (at least 2 and 3) that includes time. Suddenly, for no apparent reason, the primary characteristic of dimensionality changes from physical to metaphorical, and now dimension 4 is a space-time curve that is expressed as an extension of 1-3. Even better, now the progression continues, with 5-10 now being physical convolutions of the metaphorical extension that is dimension 4. If the universe really behaves like that, it needs a good spanking.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 11:44 PM (bxiXv)

1112 Night all. I'll just leave you with some extra-dimensional forboding: http://tinyurl.com/8hsqzyj

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2012 11:46 PM (sZTYJ)

1113 I don't know. Offhand I would guess that decreasing c from a fixed point would yield a blue shift as the waves bunched up on approach.

That was my first thought but it seems to come from conservation of energy. If energy is conserved in an expanding universe model than energy must be gradually lost in a model where the distances between galaxies are fixed and things slow down for no reason. Thus, redshift. I'm too tired and emotional to work out the details but I remain convinced that an alternate model is possible.

Posted by: schizoid at October 22, 2012 11:50 PM (hPUyc)

1114 I wonder if the terminological merging of space and time is useful. I know it's a fait accompli, but still. One could argue that my objection is semantic, and that's not entirely untrue. If you disconnect the chain at 3-4 verbally the explication is less offensive.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 22, 2012 11:51 PM (bxiXv)

1115 You know, I *totally* missed the "Ten Rings" reference in Iron Man 1.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 23, 2012 03:40 AM (bxiXv)

snark? if not, how could you miss it as it was obvious?

Posted by: The Dude at October 23, 2012 12:02 AM (tw6Ar)

1116 And yeah, CBS running the Nov 6 election results in Arizona calling it for Obama by accident is doing wonders for my sense of grand, overarching conspiracy to enslave us all and render or brains into neural food for approaching alien colonists.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 23, 2012 12:04 AM (bxiXv)

1117

"1088 Re: Atheism and Morality Discussions

To categorically state there is no god is as religious a position as to categorically state there is a god or that the nature of god is thus and so. There is no concrete evidence either way. ..."

Actually, it seems like I read an argument once whereby the commonly-held idea of God was shown to be logically inconsistent. I forget how it goes, but if you show such an inconsistency, you don't need "concrete evidence" to make such a declaration without some sort of act of "faith".

As to morality, one need not have an invisible nanny eternally hanging over one's shoulder, promising unspeakable endless torture for non-compliance, to recognize that there is such a thing as right and wrong. Right and wrong is simply the subject of ethics in the real world, with no supernatural characters required.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 23, 2012 12:06 AM (R4cjW)

1118 snark? if not, how could you miss it as it was obvious? Posted by: The Dude at October 23, 2012 04:02 AM (tw6Ar) Oh, I *heard* it, it *was* obvious, it wasn't until I went to look at the trainer. Mandarin, ten rings, The Ten Rings, yeah, it's obvious. I just didn't associate Afghani terror group with Chinese warlord. I'm a little distance from my comic roots.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 23, 2012 12:06 AM (bxiXv)

1119

On the question of who was qualified to be Commander in Chief: 60% said Romney was.

63% said Obama was.

Math moves #foward.

Posted by: Gerry at October 23, 2012 05:23 AM (OY1go)

1120 The closest the world ever got to nuclear war was the 1956 incident. An American traffic analyst reading the Russian air traffic communications saw that the Soviets had launched all of their bombers toward the US. As a result the Strategic Air Command responded with a full combat launch of all available bombers toward the Soviet Union. There was no "Fail Safe" at the time - the US bombers were on their way to their targets.

A French traffic analyst figured out that the Soviets had stupidly switched all of their civilian call signs with the military call signs and that the Soviets had not launched their bombers - but that it was a routine air resupply mission with the civilian fleet. The US bombers were recalled. The lead US bombers were over Soviet airspace when they were recalled. We were one failed vacuum tube in a bomber's radio away from WWIII.

Posted by: An Observation at October 23, 2012 06:06 AM (ylhEn)

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