October 03, 2012
— Maetenloch
So Brazil is now registering 3-person civil unions:
A public notary in Brazil has registered a three-person partnership as a legally recognized civil union. Brazilians are waiting to see how other public officials treat the notary's action.
The notary, Claudia do Nascimento Domingues, who serves the city of Tupa, "said the move reflected the fact that the idea of a 'family' had changed. 'We are only recognising what has always existed. We are not inventing anything. For better or worse, it doesn't matter, but what we considered a family before isn't necessarily what we would consider a family today'."
And there are already 3-parent baby fertility treatments out there:
A fertility treatment which eliminates hereditary disease by engineering babies to carry healthy DNA from a third biological parent could be legalised next year.
Three is the future, baby - and my other baby!
Woo Hoo: Foreign Investment in the US Surging
Why? Because for all of our problems which we continually beat ourselves up over - the rest of the world is still far more fucked up than we are. And their issues tend to be fundamental social ones that no one there is willing to talk about.
Of all the major economies in the world, the U.S. is doing the least poorly. Europe faces a colossal self-created currency disaster, Russia sees its energy-profits wither as the U.S. energy revolution unfolds, Brazil is still the perpetual country of the future, and both China and Japan have massive problems lurking beneath the surface as a trade war looms. For now, the U.S. will remain a relative beacon of stability and profit-and foreign investors recognize this.
So we have that going for us.
More on the Obama 'Phone Lady'
Well Elspeth Reeve doubled down on her claims that showing video of the phone lady is racist:
The point of the video - and the reason Drudge and Limbaugh hyped it - is to say, this is what Obama voters look like: black, poor, stupid, and after your money. The video's subject wasn't picked out because she "happens to be black," she was picked out because she is black. Lee Atwater, strategist for Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush, explained how this works way back in 1981 - better to talk about cutting taxes and bussing, because it's "a hell of a lot more abstract than 'Ni***r, ni***r.'" Of course, this Internet meme isn't all that abstract.
And Ann Althouse had one of her typical PC snits over the video which is why I suppose she is currently 'undecided' between Romney and Obama. She may have some conservative-ish opinions but her prejudices are straight orthodox liberal. In her heart she seems to be convinced that even reasonable and decent conservatives are all secret racists.
Feeling All Nervous and Stressed Out?
Then let Bob Ross feeding a baby squirrel sooth you.
Holocaust Remembrance Tattoos?
Perhaps well intentioned but generally a bad idea.
The 10 tattooed descendants interviewed for this article echoed one another's motivations: they wanted to be intimately, eternally bonded to their survivor-relative. And they wanted to live the mantra "Never forget" with something that would constantly provoke questions and conversation.
And Neo-neocon does not approve:
It seems repellent and almost ghoulish, a form of histrionic appropriation of another's suffering (and also a violation of the Jewish prohibition on tattooing the body), although on reading the entire article I could also see it as a form of love, and a desire to not let the world forget. But the world will forget-in fact, a great deal of the world has already forgotten, or never was outraged by the Holocaust in the first place.
Ultimately memories live on through people and the stories they tell - not ink on their skin.
(barring certain extreme situations such as the movie, Memento)
Introducing the Tactical Revolver Shotgun
Yeah it's impractical and probably heavier than an auto - but it does look pretty cool.
How To Turn Your Spare Pennies into a Nice Ring
As a kid I used to melt pennies - the copper-shelled zinc ones - all the time on the kitchen stove. With just another tool or two I could have been smelting my own jewelry. Or bullets and blades.
Teh Tweet!
Yahoo group. That is all.
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Posted by: steevy at October 03, 2012 06:27 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: the Republican Platform (1856) at October 03, 2012 06:29 PM (QTHTd)
I taped the first hour and maybe I'll watch it later after the reviews are out but I really hate Ø too much to watch it.
Posted by: andycanuck at October 03, 2012 06:33 PM (vDl/w)
Polyamory!! Oh Brave New World to have such people in it!!
Posted by: stillers at October 03, 2012 06:33 PM (fhulK)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 03, 2012 06:34 PM (QnKeu)
Posted by: CDR M at October 03, 2012 06:34 PM (dKV5k)
Posted by: Alex at October 03, 2012 06:36 PM (HwgHt)
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 03, 2012 06:37 PM (0CiTm)
Posted by: phoenixgirl what did huma abedin know? team dagny at October 03, 2012 06:38 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Bomber at October 03, 2012 06:38 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: Social Science Graduate Student, majoring in hon-heirarchical pan-sexual peace studies at October 03, 2012 06:39 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: The Black Knight at October 03, 2012 06:40 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs Are Really SMOD in Disguise at October 03, 2012 06:40 PM (VYgNZ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl what did huma abedin know? team dagny at October 03, 2012 06:40 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Adam at October 03, 2012 06:40 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at October 03, 2012 06:40 PM (UljOc)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 03, 2012 06:40 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: thunderb at October 03, 2012 06:41 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 03, 2012 06:41 PM (3jgI1)
I'm relishing when he releases the Ryan on the Vice SCOAMT next week.
Posted by: Palandine at October 03, 2012 06:41 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 03, 2012 06:41 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Adam at October 03, 2012 06:42 PM (/YJYi)
Not if you marry two sisters.
Posted by: Leo Ladenson at October 03, 2012 06:42 PM (mAm+G)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 03, 2012 06:42 PM (HEWhR)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 03, 2012 06:42 PM (3jgI1)
Posted by: mpfs at October 03, 2012 06:42 PM (NCzNC)
actual Chris Matthews quote a few seconds ago
fuuuuuuuuucccccccccccckkkk
we got us a new Pres soon
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 06:42 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: phoenixgirl what did huma abedin know? team dagny at October 03, 2012 06:43 PM (Ho2rs)
Willard rules.
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at October 03, 2012 06:43 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2012 06:43 PM (d0Dmj)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 03, 2012 06:43 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: derit at October 03, 2012 06:44 PM (I88Jc)
More than one wife = more than one mother-in-law. Fuck that shit.
That's what I hear. Guess I've been lucky....first one was an angel, second one was already dead. I suppose I'm due for a shrieking harridan for number three!
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at October 03, 2012 06:44 PM (h+sNN)
Posted by: NewBrunswicker at October 03, 2012 06:44 PM (XBxRP)
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 03, 2012 06:44 PM (0CiTm)
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs Are Really SMOD in Disguise at October 03, 2012 06:45 PM (VYgNZ)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 03, 2012 06:45 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 03, 2012 06:45 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 03, 2012 06:46 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 03, 2012 06:46 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 03, 2012 10:42 PM (3jgI1)
I can watch excepts afterwards. Ones that illustrate Hussein's Downfall and Romney mopping the floor with him. But I canna have Hussein on me TV for 90 minutes
Posted by: Bat Red in Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 06:46 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at October 03, 2012 06:46 PM (kqGWM)
Posted by: CDR M at October 03, 2012 06:46 PM (dKV5k)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 03, 2012 06:47 PM (RYVE/)
So hard work does pay off. Whoda thunk it?
Posted by: El Preezy at October 03, 2012 06:47 PM (h+sNN)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 03, 2012 06:47 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: Chris Matthews Bartender at October 03, 2012 06:48 PM (wwsoB)
Reaction
James Fallows - The Alantic
It's a good thing for Barack Obama that there are a couple more sessions.
Dennis Miller:
Obama better hope a Kicked Ass is covered under Obamacare.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 03, 2012 06:48 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 03, 2012 06:48 PM (GEICT)
didna need to watch no debate to know what I already know
Posted by: Bat Red in Baton Rouge at October 03, 2012 06:48 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 03, 2012 06:48 PM (3jgI1)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 03, 2012 06:48 PM (ck76k)
I'm not one of the cool kids either.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 03, 2012 10:45 PM (jucos)
===
Worst part, I did an analogy that somebody else used and got posted. I'm very butthurt and am thinking of canceling my subscription.
This part of Apollo 13 always chokes me up.
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 03, 2012 06:48 PM (0CiTm)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 03, 2012 06:48 PM (QnKeu)
Santorium predicted this would happen in the US .. hang in there Mormons
Posted by: Rev Al Sharpton at October 03, 2012 06:48 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Helen Thomas at October 03, 2012 06:49 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Splunge at October 03, 2012 06:50 PM (2IW5Q)
Posted by: taylork at October 03, 2012 06:50 PM (ppNDn)
Posted by: Big T Party at October 03, 2012 06:50 PM (EhUTA)
Posted by: Rev Al Sharpton at October 03, 2012 06:51 PM (e8kgV)
Come on... debate was great... Romney essentialy told the Prezzy he was a liar a few times...
Things like, you are not entitled to your own facts....
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 03, 2012 06:51 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Adam at October 03, 2012 06:51 PM (/YJYi)
Andrew Sullivan:
10.31 pm. Look: you know how much I love the guy, and you know how much of a high information viewer I am, and I can see the logic of some of Obama's meandering, weak, professorial arguments. But this was a disaster for the president for the key people he needs to reach, and his effete, wonkish lectures may have jolted a lot of independents into giving Romney a second look.
Posted by: Truman North at October 03, 2012 06:51 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: taylork at October 03, 2012 06:51 PM (ppNDn)
Posted by: PaleRider at October 03, 2012 06:51 PM (dkExz)
Favorite comment: ace lifting the fapping ban.
I'm out.
Posted by: sTevo at October 03, 2012 06:52 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 06:52 PM (Wp4rQ)
Election is over people. MSNBC says Romney won.
The thrill is gone
It's gone away for good
Oh, the thrill is gone baby
Baby its gone away for good
Someday I know I'll be over it all baby
Just like I know a man should
Posted by: Rev Al Sharpton at October 03, 2012 06:52 PM (e8kgV)
Me too. It's a shame that Ed Harris is such a nasty lefty, he's a great actor
Posted by: kbdabear at October 03, 2012 06:52 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: MSM at October 03, 2012 06:52 PM (h+sNN)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 03, 2012 06:52 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 03, 2012 06:53 PM (/LkSO)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 03, 2012 06:53 PM (QnKeu)
Posted by: Truman North at October 03, 2012 06:53 PM (I2LwF)
Chuck Todd the idiot evan said that Romney won the debate. How bad do you have to be to have Todd call you out? I loved it. Romney could have brought in a lot of other issues but he was measured and these things will come out in other debates.
Isn't the next debate between Ryan and Biden on foreign policy? That will be pure entertainment. No, I do not feel sorry for Biden. He is a shit that has been living off of the government teat for far too long. He deserves what he will get.
Posted by: Cheri at October 03, 2012 06:53 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 03, 2012 06:53 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 03, 2012 06:53 PM (JMmQ9)
C-Span Caller (Obama African American)- it takes longer than 4 years to git America straight!
???
Posted by: concrete girl at October 03, 2012 10:47 PM (y2Ojs)
Two things I'd like to hear Romney say...
Mr. President, we won WWII in four years....
and
Mr President, you said you'd cut the deficit in half, and have lower unemployment when you ran for office.... well, if 'I' don't keep my campaign promises? Feel free to vote for someone else in four years...
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 03, 2012 06:54 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: JParker at October 03, 2012 06:54 PM (8HhF2)
Wasn't a big Mitt fan for a long time, but he definitely came to win. Good work my candidate!
Posted by: NC Ref at October 03, 2012 06:54 PM (/izg2)
In about 2 and half hours the report will be out from the VAT (Voice Analyzer Technology) machine which was used on the debate.
If there's anything left of the machine, that will be an interesting report.
Posted by: The Chicken at October 03, 2012 06:55 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 03, 2012 06:55 PM (yc1qZ)
Posted by: Damiano at October 03, 2012 06:55 PM (GZjj9)
Posted by: taylork at October 03, 2012 06:55 PM (ppNDn)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 03, 2012 06:56 PM (ECYvo)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 03, 2012 06:56 PM (yJYwC)
Dang....I have 2 kids. Kid 1 (23) with really no interest in politics texted me during the debate and said " gee it looks like Romney is having a hard time not to laugh at Obama, Me and my boyfriend are laughing at him".
Kid 2 is 18 and working right now. Texted me whining that she is missing the debate. Wants to know when the next one is so she can pencil off the day to watch.
I'm not buying this crap the Prezzy of the united Steezy is winning this. Not by a longshot
Posted by: Molly K at October 03, 2012 06:56 PM (qzxz2)
All guests = KO.
Co-host Jon Avalon/Daily Beast: well Obama mailed it in, he just didn't have his heart in it.
loloololool
Posted by: 13times at October 03, 2012 06:56 PM (h6XiD)
Posted by: Barack Obama's Secret Gay Ex-Boyfriend at October 03, 2012 06:56 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: taylork at October 03, 2012 06:57 PM (ppNDn)
Posted by: brian mckim at October 03, 2012 06:57 PM (GDWoU)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 03, 2012 06:57 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 03, 2012 06:58 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 03, 2012 06:58 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Voluble at October 03, 2012 06:58 PM (qYvEa)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 06:58 PM (8sCoq)
Clearest sign that RomneyÂ’s winning: liberals filling up my feed with what Obama *should* be saying
— Joshua Green (@JoshuaGreen
Posted by: kbdabear at October 03, 2012 06:58 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Dictionary of Racist Terms at October 03, 2012 06:58 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 03, 2012 06:59 PM (erYRT)
I'm becoming convinced that Barky wants to lose and go home.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 03, 2012 06:59 PM (yJYwC)
Posted by: Dictionary of Racist Terms at October 03, 2012 06:59 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: mpfs at October 03, 2012 06:59 PM (NCzNC)
you sir are a steely-eyed missile man- my feelings exactly
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 06:59 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 03, 2012 07:00 PM (bxiXv)
The difference between Mitt and Barry (and John McCain too) is that Mitt started out working hard in college, and has worked hard all his life. He is a born over-achiever, and had to work hard and be smart to be successful. For years.
Obama has had a lot of things handed to him as an equal -opportunity hire, and been promoted because of his race. He might be smart, but his intellect is flaccid.
McCain was a terrible student at the Naval Academy. He graduated near the bottom of his class. He is not stupid, but he has never been a disciplined intellect, much like many politicians.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.....FREE KRATOS! at October 03, 2012 07:00 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: Reggie Love, Hard Body Man at October 03, 2012 07:00 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 07:00 PM (Wp4rQ)
Obama looked the PSOTUS. Popsicle Stick of the United States. Cripes almighty I have hangers that fill out a suit better than he did tonight,.
Posted by: Molly K at October 03, 2012 07:00 PM (qzxz2)
why push that yahoo group and not the fb group that has 500+ Morons active?
Posted by: Unclefacts, now with even more summoning power. at October 03, 2012 07:01 PM (6IReR)
Posted by: Whoever this is, it's definitely not Michael at October 03, 2012 07:01 PM (JVCVF)
LOL
what debate? Say, you might like this shiny thing...
Posted by: MSM at October 03, 2012 07:01 PM (8sCoq)
You guys actually watched the dog eating shirt lifter, on TV? Did he suck? If so, what did he suck?
Posted by: otho at October 03, 2012 07:01 PM (yBF/9)
Posted by: derit at October 03, 2012 07:01 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 03, 2012 07:01 PM (6zgse)
Posted by: Big T Party at October 03, 2012 07:02 PM (EhUTA)
We'd be happy to help!
Posted by: Morons everywhere at October 03, 2012 07:02 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: Dictionary of Racist Terms at October 03, 2012 07:02 PM (LpQbZ)
there is nothing for the Palace Guard Media to spin. NOTHING. Their guy sucks and it showed.
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 07:02 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Adam at October 03, 2012 07:03 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: andycanuck at October 03, 2012 07:03 PM (vDl/w)
Posted by: mpfs at October 03, 2012 07:03 PM (NCzNC)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 03, 2012 07:04 PM (6zgse)
Posted by: Whitehouse SpokesPewson at October 03, 2012 07:04 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Because there is more to the internet than LOLcats on Facebook at October 03, 2012 07:04 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: 13times at October 03, 2012 07:04 PM (h6XiD)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at October 03, 2012 07:04 PM (kqGWM)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 03, 2012 07:04 PM (6zgse)
they have NOTHING- Mitt was smooth and factual, Obama was gibberish. End of story.
FNC reporting on Axelrod's spin. Apparently Axelrod is channeling Baghdad Bob.
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 07:05 PM (8sCoq)
One and done. I see the tipping point.
Posted by: Up with people! A man. at October 03, 2012 07:05 PM (kzFo5)
Posted by: goldilocks at October 03, 2012 07:05 PM (OETVg)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 07:05 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 03, 2012 07:05 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 07:05 PM (nUH8H)
Posted by: Because there is more to the internet than LOLcats on Facebook at October 03, 2012 11:04 PM (sZTYJ)
yeah, and except for the fact that there's 500 plus of the Moron Horde over there, you may even have a point besides the one in your panties.
Posted by: Unclefacts, now with even more summoning power. at October 03, 2012 07:05 PM (6IReR)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 03, 2012 07:05 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at October 03, 2012 07:05 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Palandine at October 03, 2012 07:06 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 03, 2012 07:06 PM (fgC5S)
Biden has to do a better job than Obama did tonight.
Obama = George Armstrong Custer
Posted by: The Q at October 03, 2012 07:06 PM (B/yDO)
Obama's face during the debates?
He looked pretty sour sometimes, and had to remember to flash that "winning" smile occasionally.
Mitt looked serious but pleasant and smiled most of the night. A friendly, unforced smile.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.....FREE KRATOS! at October 03, 2012 07:06 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: Reggie Love Machine at October 03, 2012 07:06 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at October 03, 2012 11:04 PM (kqGWM)
No. Not at all.
Posted by: Adam at October 03, 2012 07:06 PM (/YJYi)
If I had a dick, it would have crashed through my keyboard and I'd have a hell of a time typing around it.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at October 03, 2012 07:06 PM (d6TfZ)
If that was Mitt vs. Obama, I can't even imagine how fucking awesome the Ryan-Biden debate is going to be!
-----
I predict a sudden illness will prevent Biden from debating at all.
Posted by: Up with people! A man. at October 03, 2012 07:07 PM (kzFo5)
"where are the TROLLS ????????????????"
(putting on my tinfoil hat)
Obama cleary dominated that debate. However, I am concerned that he was speaking at a level far beyond the comprehension of average Americans...especially conservatives. I'll even bet the simple-minded teabaggers will think Romney won! LMFAO!! LMFAO!!! LMFAO!!
Posted by: Icedog at October 03, 2012 07:07 PM (PTS+l)
On a more serious note, I'm a bit excited. I've been down in the dumps that even with a Romney win, nothing would change our overall trajectory. Maybe I was wrong. I dare to hope some now.
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 03, 2012 07:07 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 03, 2012 07:07 PM (BVkEs)
Dang it to heck, now our secret's is out. It's magical debating underwear!
Posted by: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints at October 03, 2012 07:07 PM (h+sNN)
Posted by: goldilocks at October 03, 2012 07:07 PM (OETVg)
http://tinyurl.com/czmgu2y
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 03, 2012 07:08 PM (yc1qZ)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 07:08 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Facebook Liberation Front at October 03, 2012 07:08 PM (sZTYJ)
Hmmm.... could be a good week....
Romney did good.... pick up the new Camaro tomorow... 3 day fencing tournament and party after that, accompanied by the Hot Redhead...
sometimes... life if good....
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 03, 2012 07:08 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 03, 2012 07:08 PM (JMmQ9)
Luntz just asked which of his focus group peeps how many decided who to vote for from this debate, and about half of them decided tonight.
Posted by: Truman North at October 03, 2012 07:08 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: rickl at October 03, 2012 07:08 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: thirtyandseven at October 03, 2012 07:08 PM (vkh0C)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 03, 2012 07:09 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 07:09 PM (j1gX1)
Posted by: VBJonny at October 03, 2012 07:09 PM (bED4B)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 07:09 PM (8sCoq)
Sven is taking a bit of a sabbatical.
Cool Czech has been gone for weeks. Maybe his wife made him cut down on his internet time.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.....FREE KRATOS! at October 03, 2012 07:09 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: VBJonny at October 03, 2012 07:10 PM (bED4B)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 07:10 PM (j1gX1)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 03, 2012 07:10 PM (yJYwC)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 07:10 PM (nUH8H)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 07:10 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: steevy at October 03, 2012 07:10 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Tami at October 03, 2012 07:10 PM (X6akg)
Cool Czech was on Twitter tonight for a while.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at October 03, 2012 07:10 PM (d6TfZ)
Posted by: Up with people! A man. at October 03, 2012 07:11 PM (kzFo5)
Posted by: DC in Towson at October 03, 2012 07:11 PM (4QAQg)
Posted by: Dictionary of Racist Terms at October 03, 2012 07:11 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 03, 2012 07:11 PM (0CiTm)
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs Are Really SMOD in Disguise at October 03, 2012 07:11 PM (VYgNZ)
Posted by: Up with people! A man. at October 03, 2012 07:11 PM (kzFo5)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 07:11 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: real joe at October 03, 2012 07:12 PM (PD2ad)
Posted by: Obama's Golf/Butt buddy at October 03, 2012 07:12 PM (sZTYJ)
Anyone else I would say "oh watch out Mrs, your man is pissed tonight" but I stuck around a bit to watch family and friends come up on stage. Michelle had the march of a tuba player going on coming up on stage so for the sake of fairness I will say watch out Barry your wife/man is pissed tonight.
Posted by: Molly K at October 03, 2012 07:12 PM (qzxz2)
Posted by: Reggie Love Machine at October 03, 2012 11:06 PM
*sob* Can I eat your poodle?
Posted by: back door barry soetoro at October 03, 2012 07:12 PM (yBF/9)
the palace guard has kept the media away from Dear Leader for 4 years. Tonight, it was like Obama had to do 90 minutes in a cage with a lion. A very smart, very prepared lion. And Obama couldn't run, couldn't hide, and couldn't make it stop.
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 07:12 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: joey biden at October 03, 2012 11:11 PM (vDl/w)
Great Western War.... 45 inch Rapiers.... LOL....
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 03, 2012 07:12 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 03, 2012 07:13 PM (ECYvo)
Posted by: Dictionary of Racist Terms at October 03, 2012 07:13 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2012 07:13 PM (dX4hn)
Posted by: Forward at October 03, 2012 07:13 PM (dvLAs)
Posted by: no good deed at October 03, 2012 07:13 PM (mjR67)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 03, 2012 07:14 PM (sZTYJ)
Overwhelmingly said Romney won
This is a big fu*ng deal
Posted by: Big Star at October 03, 2012 07:14 PM (0upWk)
Posted by: tofer732 at October 03, 2012 07:14 PM (m5Iwq)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 07:14 PM (nUH8H)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 03, 2012 07:14 PM (6zgse)
Barack Obama = The Mulkey Brothers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPP0lHFXEA8
Posted by: MrCaniac at October 03, 2012 07:14 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: mpfs at October 03, 2012 07:15 PM (NCzNC)
we must blame Jim Leherer. The wheels of the bus came off, but Lehrer is under it
Heard a CNBC D-Hackville say exactly that. Lehrer was the 'loser' of tonight's debate.
Posted by: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints at October 03, 2012 07:15 PM (h+sNN)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 07:15 PM (nUH8H)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 03, 2012 07:15 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 03, 2012 07:15 PM (yc1qZ)
Posted by: TD at October 03, 2012 07:16 PM (+uFux)
Flat wouldn't quite describe how Barry looked. Too many canned answers that he has used for years. Didn't look smart or engaged.
If you have followed Obama the last few years, you have already heard the answers that he used tonight. And there were stretches where he looked and sounded pretty lifeless.
Romney was enthused and engaged. He came across as smart and likable.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.....FREE KRATOS! at October 03, 2012 07:16 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: 13times at October 03, 2012 07:16 PM (h6XiD)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 03, 2012 07:16 PM (bxiXv)
One of the focus group dipshits said Lehrer wasn't fair because he didn't protect Obama enough.
Posted by: Truman North at October 03, 2012 07:16 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: The Q at October 03, 2012 07:16 PM (B/yDO)
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at October 03, 2012 07:16 PM (h+sNN)
Posted by: Adam at October 03, 2012 07:16 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.....FREE KRATOS! at October 03, 2012 07:16 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at October 03, 2012 07:17 PM (CA2NO)
And he called Jim a muppet. "I love you and Big Bird."
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 03, 2012 07:17 PM (vY2x+)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 03, 2012 07:17 PM (fgC5S)
Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at October 03, 2012 07:17 PM (lBpVP)
I like that Romney said he'd take funding away from PBS. Oh the humanity, Romney's going to make Big Bird homeless! Oscar is gonna lose his trash can.
Bwahahahaha
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at October 03, 2012 07:17 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: mpfs at October 03, 2012 07:17 PM (NCzNC)
"Who won the debate? CBSNews Knowledge Networks poll 523 undecideds: 46% Romney 23% Obama. Remainder call it a tie."
Being that it's a CBS poll, the actual numbers are probably for worse for Obama.
Posted by: Icedog at October 03, 2012 07:18 PM (PTS+l)
Posted by: USA at October 03, 2012 07:18 PM (RIg+t)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at October 03, 2012 11:17 PM (CA2NO)
Splooge!!!!!
Posted by: Morons Everywhere at October 03, 2012 07:18 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at October 03, 2012 07:18 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 07:18 PM (j1gX1)
He has never had to work hard for anything in his life. He won't do any better.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2012 07:19 PM (dX4hn)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 03, 2012 07:19 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: tofer732 at October 03, 2012 07:19 PM (m5Iwq)
sadly I must go to bed.
good night all
and I'm feeling a lot better about Mittens now
I think the Mitt 5.0 software borrowed a lot from the T-101 software and the HAL-9000 software
Posted by: chemjeff at October 03, 2012 07:19 PM (d/5qf)
How close did he seem to meltdown?
pretty close- ums, ahhs, gibberish- Obama cant speak off the cuff...
Mitt Romney just showed America how its done--- when you spend years and years in front of clients pitching them the cold hard economic facts, as Romney has, you get good at it---- it showed tonight
Obama just found out the water is very very deep and he hasn't got a lifeline
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 07:19 PM (8sCoq)
How much you want to bet they'll tweet a photo of Obama playing Jenga before the next debate a la Romney and family. Or perhaps in Obama's case they'll be sitting around playing Go Fish or somethin easy like that.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at October 03, 2012 07:20 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 03, 2012 07:20 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: oscar the grouch at October 03, 2012 07:20 PM (vDl/w)
I haven't gotten to read the comments, but I didn't watch the debate. How'd mitt do?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at October 03, 2012 11:17 PM (CA2NO)
Just guessing here but thinking the "fap ban" is off and Romney is the poster you need to pin to your ceiling;.
Posted by: Molly K at October 03, 2012 07:20 PM (qzxz2)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 03, 2012 07:20 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: NC Ref at October 03, 2012 07:20 PM (/izg2)
Posted by: Berserker at October 03, 2012 07:21 PM (FMbng)
Mitt turned it up to 11 right at the start and never let up
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 07:21 PM (8sCoq)
Close but still room for a total meltdown. Obama couldn't look at Romney for more than a second or two so he looked down at his notes, grimacing when Romney was making solid hits. Romney addressed Obama with a majority of his arguments right to his face, and the remainder was towards the moderator.
You really only need to see the first 15min or so to see the Medicare segment. Romney went through his plan and Obama started with Medicare, switched to paying for college and teachers. All over the map within one minute. Lots of 'uh, uh, uh' s as well.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 03, 2012 07:21 PM (vY2x+)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 07:21 PM (j1gX1)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 03, 2012 07:21 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 07:22 PM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: Barack Obama's Holistic Doctor at October 03, 2012 07:22 PM (sZTYJ)
Obama probably wishes that he could've had Clinton do the debate for him tonight
Posted by: The Q at October 03, 2012 07:22 PM (B/yDO)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 03, 2012 07:22 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2012 07:22 PM (dX4hn)
Posted by: MrCaniac at October 03, 2012 07:22 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Dictionary of Racist Terms at October 03, 2012 07:22 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: derit at October 03, 2012 07:22 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 03, 2012 07:22 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 07:23 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: The Q at October 03, 2012 07:23 PM (B/yDO)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at October 03, 2012 07:23 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 07:23 PM (nUH8H)
I agree but every gun sold is a win right?
Just like all tools some have the right ones for the job and others have ones that can get the job done eventually. better to have a tool than none at all.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 03, 2012 07:23 PM (yc1qZ)
Posted by: Joey Biden at October 03, 2012 07:24 PM (sZTYJ)
How you end Obama is with the truth and facts. Be succint and Presidential. Be hard, ruthless, and prepared on all points. Romney did all of that. As not only a businessman but a Chief Executive of a fortune 500 this was definately not his first rodeo.
What will be the MFM spin? Obama was too busy with the exploding foreign affairs issues.....while he was playing golf and lounging in Vegas.
Posted by: Cheri at October 03, 2012 07:24 PM (EAgmr)
Really, the way they have cocooned Obama the last few years really came a cropper tonight.
Not enough news conferences, not enough honest criticism, not enough practice defending his own position. He is not intellectually prepared to defend his own ideas with any spontaneity or enthusiasm.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.....FREE KRATOS! at October 03, 2012 07:24 PM (sJTmU)
These are the same fuckers who the media have been allowing to get away with shit like saying "It's just one report" as lousy jobs report after lousy jobs report came in. Maybe some chickens coming home to roost.
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 03, 2012 07:25 PM (QnKeu)
Posted by: mpfs at October 03, 2012 07:25 PM (NCzNC)
Posted by: Dictionary of Racist Terms at October 03, 2012 07:25 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 03, 2012 07:25 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2012 07:25 PM (dX4hn)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 03, 2012 07:26 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 03, 2012 07:26 PM (ZCRQd)
Posted by: no good deed at October 03, 2012 07:27 PM (mjR67)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 03, 2012 07:27 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: MrCaniac at October 03, 2012 07:27 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Molly K at October 03, 2012 07:27 PM (qzxz2)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 07:27 PM (nUH8H)
I guarantee you Obama's people put him in front of a friendly audience so the evening news has video of people cheering for the 'president'
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 07:27 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: joey biden at October 03, 2012 07:28 PM (vDl/w)
I liked the whining about corporate jets
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 07:29 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 03, 2012 07:29 PM (6zgse)
Lehrer defended him a little, in trying to referee the answers, because the back and forth ran long.
But ultimately it worked for Romney, because he is sharper and was better prepared to debate.
Romney closed out better and showed a better understanding of fundamental American ideals that super Constitutional professor Obama.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.....FREE KRATOS! at October 03, 2012 07:29 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 03, 2012 07:29 PM (K4AdI)
Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
He sure was tonight! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Posted by: katya the designated driver at October 03, 2012 07:29 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at October 03, 2012 07:29 PM (fgC5S)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at October 03, 2012 07:30 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 03, 2012 07:30 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 03, 2012 07:31 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 07:31 PM (8sCoq)
If tonight's debate was a bloodbath, what's the VP debate going to be?
Posted by: katya the designated driver at October 03, 2012 07:31 PM (DoZD+)
The "you could have hired 2 million teachers with that" was a great riposte.
Posted by: no good deed at October 03, 2012 07:32 PM (mjR67)
Now there is the %1 how do we get that message across.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 03, 2012 07:32 PM (yc1qZ)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at October 03, 2012 11:30 PM (CA2NO)
oh yeah
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 07:32 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: mpfs at October 03, 2012 07:32 PM (NCzNC)
Really.
Oil Company profits and tax deductions!
Corporate jets!
Tax cuts for the rich!
All the cliches were there, but surprisingly flat, because we have heard them so many times. There was no thought or freshness to anything that Obama said.
Romney's rebuttals were fresher and sharper.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.....FREE KRATOS! at October 03, 2012 07:32 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 07:32 PM (j1gX1)
Michael Moore said basically the same thing on Twitter. Don't believe me?
Michael Moore: Get this: Obama spoke FOUR minutes longer than Romney did tonight! Didn't feel that way, did it? That sorta says it all.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at October 03, 2012 07:32 PM (d6TfZ)
The "you could have hired 2 million teachers with that" was a great riposte.
Posted by: no good deed at October 03, 2012 11:32 PM (mjR67)
yeah that was a body blow from Mitt- cracked a couple ribs with that one
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 07:33 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 07:33 PM (nUH8H)
Posted by: Jerry at October 03, 2012 07:33 PM (4SKYj)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 07:33 PM (Dnbau)
and by god I was right
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 07:35 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 07:35 PM (j1gX1)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 07:35 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Dictionary of Racist Terms at October 03, 2012 07:36 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 07:36 PM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 07:36 PM (nUH8H)
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 03, 2012 07:36 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 03, 2012 07:37 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 03, 2012 07:37 PM (6zgse)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 07:37 PM (Dnbau)
Van Jones: "Up until tonight, we were told Romney was Thurston Howell... Tonight, he was presidential."
I think my head just exploded.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at October 03, 2012 07:37 PM (d6TfZ)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.....FREE KRATOS! at October 03, 2012 07:37 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 03, 2012 07:38 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 03, 2012 07:38 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 07:39 PM (Dnbau)
Van Jones: "Up until tonight, we were told Romney was Thurston Howell... Tonight, he was presidential."
I think my head just exploded.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at October 03, 2012 11:37 PM (d6TfZ)
Wow....
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 03, 2012 07:39 PM (sZRY5)
10th amendment.
That was something totally unexpected, but it was totally in context with the point that Romney was making about the States controlling healthcare solutions and education.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.....FREE KRATOS! at October 03, 2012 07:40 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: derit at October 03, 2012 07:40 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 07:40 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at October 03, 2012 07:41 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 11:35 PM (Dnbau)
Yeah, and what do you think Putin is thinking right about now?
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 03, 2012 07:41 PM (sZRY5)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 07:41 PM (nUH8H)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 03, 2012 07:41 PM (bxiXv)
How 'bout you?Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 03, 2012 07:41 PM (6zgse)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 07:42 PM (nUH8H)
Posted by: Van Jones at October 03, 2012 07:42 PM (G73Lf)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 03, 2012 07:42 PM (6zgse)
Watch that not to work out so well for him.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at October 03, 2012 07:42 PM (d6TfZ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 03, 2012 07:42 PM (j1gX1)
Posted by: Dictionary of Racist Terms at October 03, 2012 07:43 PM (LpQbZ)
10th amendment moment in the last half hour, talking about Medicare and sending the money back to the States to adminster the program.
Which is what George Bush did for Mitt when he was governmor of Mass. That was what made "RomneyCare" work. Not sure if that is going to be a workable premise for every state, in terms of the available amount of money.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.....FREE KRATOS! at October 03, 2012 07:44 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 03, 2012 07:44 PM (K4AdI)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at October 03, 2012 07:44 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Jerry at October 03, 2012 07:44 PM (4SKYj)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 07:45 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 03, 2012 07:45 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: chris matthews' liver at October 03, 2012 07:46 PM (vDl/w)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.....FREE KRATOS! at October 03, 2012 07:46 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: mpfs at October 03, 2012 07:47 PM (NCzNC)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 03, 2012 07:47 PM (+jNI+)
Posted by: Berserker at October 03, 2012 07:48 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at October 03, 2012 07:48 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 03, 2012 07:48 PM (6zgse)
Barky & Mooch are going to be on the warpath, sucking up every dog in sight, to make themselves feel better.
Bo better be under 24-hour secret service survelliance, and I'm being extra-protective of my 2 Yorkies tonight.
Posted by: Marybeth at October 03, 2012 07:49 PM (fkaOH)
Candy is down! Candy is down!
No, she just fell over on her own. The big homely tub of goo that she is.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.....FREE KRATOS! at October 03, 2012 07:49 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: The Dude at October 03, 2012 07:49 PM (tw6Ar)
...or if Leonidas had just let that stupid, deluded troll to fruitlessly waste himself in combat to begin with.
Posted by: derit at October 03, 2012 07:49 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: mpfs at October 03, 2012 07:50 PM (NCzNC)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 03, 2012 07:50 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 07:51 PM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 03, 2012 07:51 PM (GX2fm)
Posted by: Jerry at October 03, 2012 07:52 PM (4SKYj)
Posted by: thirtyandseven at October 03, 2012 07:53 PM (vkh0C)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 03, 2012 10:53 PM
Sweetums Sullivan sounds like he'd better be put on suicide watch tonight
Posted by: kbdabear at October 03, 2012 07:53 PM (wwsoB)
No, she just fell over on her own. The big homely tub of goo that she is.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.....FREE KRATOS! at October 03, 2012 11:49 PM (sJTmU)
What happened to Kratos? I asked in the post-cancer-stick thread but I didn't get an answer. I assumed an IP ban.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at October 03, 2012 07:54 PM (9SwFX)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 07:54 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 03, 2012 07:55 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: andycanuck at October 03, 2012 07:55 PM (vDl/w)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 07:55 PM (nUH8H)
Can't stop watching MSNBC, they look like BoSox fans after Bill Buckner
Posted by: kbdabear at October 03, 2012 07:56 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 07:56 PM (nUH8H)
Posted by: andycanuck at October 03, 2012 07:58 PM (vDl/w)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 03, 2012 08:00 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 03, 2012 08:00 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 08:00 PM (nUH8H)
Posted by: derit at October 03, 2012 08:00 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 03, 2012 08:03 PM (6zgse)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 03, 2012 08:03 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 03, 2012 08:04 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: andycanuck at October 03, 2012 08:04 PM (vDl/w)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 03, 2012 08:05 PM (PNi9V)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 03, 2012 08:06 PM (ZCRQd)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 03, 2012 08:07 PM (bxiXv)
Great Western War.... 45 inch Rapiers.... LOL....
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 03, 2012 11:12 PM (lZBBB)
dude. I hate the new Site in Taft and wont go. I miss the old site at Prado. head of my household flat out told me not to go, just send Grim. If you're still on Romeo, Have a good time for me!
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at October 03, 2012 08:07 PM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: Jerry at October 03, 2012 08:08 PM (4SKYj)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 03, 2012 08:09 PM (JCIjD)
Posted by: andycanuck at October 03, 2012 11:55 PM (vDl/w)
it's......interesting. We were doing Fleischmann enemas. It was a weird night
Posted by: The Dude at October 03, 2012 08:09 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 03, 2012 08:10 PM (ZCRQd)
Posted by: Average Guy at October 03, 2012 08:11 PM (yL1VH)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 03, 2012 08:11 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 08:11 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at October 03, 2012 08:12 PM (lBpVP)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 08:13 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 08:14 PM (Dnbau)
Obama was lost adrift without TOTUS. He also looked like maybe he'd gobbled a few Xanax before the debate.
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 03, 2012 08:15 PM (VMtg+)
Posted by: kbdabear at October 03, 2012 08:17 PM (wwsoB)
Monogamy has a large number of benefits to confer on a society, but with gay marriage, western societies have already decided that one cannot place such restrictions on individuals no matter the cost it may incur on society as a whole.
I would expect in the near future marriage will be a hell of a lot rarer, but there will be a not insignificant number of men defined as high value in society with multiple wives.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 03, 2012 08:18 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 03, 2012 08:19 PM (JMmQ9)
http://tinyurl.com/8fc458h
***
Who is the guy on the left?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 03, 2012 08:19 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 03, 2012 08:20 PM (JCIjD)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 08:21 PM (8sCoq)
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So the argument is that Republicans wouldn't care about an idiot of paler hue making the same statements?
Hell, we slammed Hillary Clinton for saying the same thing slightly more eloquently.
This is reminiscent of the Obamacare debate - where liberals swore conservatives would never oppose a government health care take over that came from a white guy...like say the Bill Clinton.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 03, 2012 08:22 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 03, 2012 08:24 PM (sZTYJ)
***
Obama isn't an idiot, but his intellectual abilities center on blame shifting, reading other's pablum eloquently, and self advancement.
Those abilities don't really sell oneself well when you are already the most powerful man in the world.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 03, 2012 08:25 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 03, 2012 08:29 PM (3R0Zs)
Posted by: Big T Party at October 03, 2012 08:29 PM (EhUTA)
David Burge @iowahawkblog
MSNBC performing live version of Downfall parody #MustSeeTV
Posted by: cthulhu at October 03, 2012 08:32 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2012 08:48 PM (4ixH5)
I would expect in the near future marriage will be a hell of a lot rarer, but there will be a not insignificant number of men defined as high value in society with multiple wives.
The high value men won't marry because they won't have to marry. Women won't marry because they would rather be girlfriend to a high value man and share him than be in a monogamous relationship with a lower value schmuck when there is no legal benefit for the latter.
Polygamy is a barbaric practice on par with female genital mutilation and one that ultimately leads to harm for women in the long run.
Posted by: Alex at October 03, 2012 08:57 PM (HwgHt)
Posted by: DC in Towson at October 03, 2012 08:58 PM (4QAQg)
Posted by: cthulhu at October 04, 2012 12:54 AM (kaalw)
You're just gonna have to use your free time to browse porn like everyone else.
Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2012 08:58 PM (4ixH5)
I didn't catch the debate. Well, I did see them walk on stage, then I turned to Apollo 13 on AMC.
I caught Romney's bit about cutting PBS and loving Big Bird during a commercial break.
Then I went out for my nightly walk/run thingy.
Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2012 09:01 PM (4ixH5)
He didn't 'eff it up. Devo's "Uncontrollable Urge":
http://youtu.be/a8UcpmUQkNU
Posted by: derit at October 03, 2012 09:08 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 03, 2012 09:11 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Robert at October 04, 2012 12:58 AM (4ixH5)
Or, in tonight's formulation, to see the Dems feeling crushed, seeing "them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women."
Posted by: cthulhu at October 03, 2012 09:12 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: DC in Towson at October 03, 2012 09:13 PM (4QAQg)
Posted by: DC in Towson at October 04, 2012 12:58 AM (4QAQg)
Just dredging around the interwebz.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 03, 2012 09:13 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 04, 2012 01:11 AM (Z9EHQ)
LOL! I fully expect Paul Ryan to blow his wad all up in Biden's hairplugs at their debate.
Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2012 09:14 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: otho at October 03, 2012 09:16 PM (yBF/9)
Posted by: DC in Towson at October 04, 2012 01:13 AM (4QAQg)
I haven't scanned the front page yet. Which one is that?
Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2012 09:17 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: DC in Towson at October 03, 2012 09:20 PM (4QAQg)
http://www.youtube.com/user/prankvsprank?feature=results_main
It's really entertaining. It's the official channel of an adorable young couple who are always playing really nasty, vicious pranks on each other. I mean, they get downright brutal. But they're obviously very much in love. Anyway, the guy has a Star of David tattooed on his chest with "Never Again" under it.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 03, 2012 09:24 PM (RLZvP)
In California.
I think that the very fabric of space-time is beginning to be torn asunder, when there's an ad for a Mossberg 500 for $249 from a Walmart in the San Francisco Bay area.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 03, 2012 09:26 PM (kaalw)
In California.
I think that the very fabric of space-time is beginning to be torn asunder, when there's an ad for a Mossberg 500 for $249 from a Walmart in the San Francisco Bay area.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 04, 2012 01:26 AM (kaalw)
i think everyone is fearing zombies
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at October 03, 2012 09:28 PM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at October 04, 2012 01:28 AM (r7Ddb)
That's not what I'm thinking.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 03, 2012 09:30 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at October 03, 2012 09:33 PM (RLZvP)
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I'm getting way ahead of things, but here's something I've been thinking could happen, assuming Romney wins. To do that obviously a lot of former O voters will vote for him. Romney tonight displayed a Reaganesque confidence and a happy demeanor which signals things are going to get better, have hope. So many people are sick of the the economy and the divisiveness and O's general suckitude that they're ready to make a break with the Dems, who have become unrecognizable.
So some in the media and Hollywood jump to the winning side, especially if/when the economy improves. They'll want to pretend like the O years didn't happen and that they had nothing to do with it. The Dem party is in shambles, old, dried up, stinky with failure. The GOP's in congress will be giddy and welcome all with open arms. We'll be pretty happy that a majority of the country has finally waken up.
But. If the media and some Hollywood types decide that working within the GOP party is the new It thing, they'll naturally try to influence it, and there's a risk the GOP becomes (even more) liberalized from within. As I said, I'm way ahead of myself, but that's how I think things could play out. Crazy idea?
Posted by: Mayday at October 03, 2012 09:49 PM (F3s39)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 03, 2012 09:52 PM (sZTYJ)
Holy shit!
Romney might talk like a typical shifty shithead politician but he's running circles around Obama who, in turn, is crying like a little girl.
Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2012 09:55 PM (4ixH5)
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Exactly. Reid and Pelosi are ready to be pickled. They have no bench depth. No rock stars for the left to get behind. The GOP has tons of fresh new faces, smart people, and a virtual rainbow. That's why i think some (not all) of the media and Hollywood will, over the next 2-3 years, invade the GOP party and work to influence it from within. Kind of like when CA people move to red states and bring their loony ideas with them.
Posted by: Mayday at October 03, 2012 09:58 PM (F3s39)
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at October 04, 2012 01:28 AM (r7Ddb)
Speaking of which, Night Of The Living Dead on TCM at around 2AM. Set your DVR!
Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2012 09:59 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 04, 2012 01:52 AM (sZTYJ)
First name off the top of my head, former Tennessee governor Phil Bredesen. Was very popular during his time. Don't know if he has any aspirations, though.
Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2012 10:01 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2012 10:04 PM (4ixH5)
I wonder if tonight's debate will be a wake up call for some of the MSM. It might start to dawn on the dimmer members that O really isn't all that and a box of chocolates. The smarter ones are more evil and know why they've been propping them up, but some of the useful idiots might be stunned out of their stupor by O's performance tonight. The ones who really have believed he's a genius, articulate, most smartest guy in all the lands. The emperor has been shown to be buck naked.
Posted by: Mayday at October 03, 2012 10:05 PM (F3s39)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIVWKlUvvBU
Can't watch it myself but if any Queensryche fans are awake this one's for you.
Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2012 10:08 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Mayday at October 03, 2012 10:08 PM (F3s39)
http://youtu.be/gFtb3EtjEic
Posted by: derit at October 03, 2012 10:23 PM (I88Jc)
Its one of those ways civilizations commit suicide. Once a culture truly becomes comfortable, prosperous, and safe, it becomes self destructive and begins to systematically abandon all the things that got them to that point as old, useless, and restrictive.
Inevitably, it all falls apart, and the people who led that charge are the first victims of the chaos that follows.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 03, 2012 10:23 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 03, 2012 10:33 PM (/OhbZ)
Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2012 10:37 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2012 10:37 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 03, 2012 10:43 PM (/OhbZ)
Charles King's "Happy Days Are Here Again":
http://youtu.be/iL0Qt7IF8Q4
Posted by: derit at October 03, 2012 10:46 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2012 10:47 PM (4ixH5)
just got in from band practice. seems the debate went against the fuckface. good. I have no TV so I'll have to take your word for it. And, no, I won't be listening to a fucking hour of stuttering on some radio replay.
now comes the fun part. the left cannot do anything other than turn cannibalistic cuz they can't let their bullshit be exposed. blame blame blame. it will all have to be personal cuz otherwise they gotta admit that they themselves are stupid and their own ideas suck. instead, they will all say it's oblamegame's fault to save their own fragile egos.
fuck 'em. slavers suck. they can eat my shit.
Posted by: jc at October 03, 2012 10:58 PM (ufJKx)
Yeah, Romney definitely won.
But, as I like to say, ddon't count your chickens before they've hatched.
Election's still a month away.
Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2012 11:00 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 03, 2012 11:03 PM (/OhbZ)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 03, 2012 11:04 PM (/OhbZ)
Posted by: Robert at October 04, 2012 03:00 AM (4ixH5)
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what we really need is a blowout that cleans out a shitload of fucked up congresscritters and shitsucking senators as well.
time to jump on the accelerator and show no mercy.
Posted by: jc at October 03, 2012 11:04 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: derit at October 03, 2012 11:07 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 04, 2012 01:52 AM (sZTYJ)
First name off the top of my head, former Tennessee governor Phil Bredesen. Was very popular during his time. Don't know if he has any aspirations, though.
Posted by: Robert at October 04, 2012 02:01 AM (4ixH5)
He's probably too conservative (for a Democrat) to get the nomination... Plus he was against Obamacare. (I lived in TN for 30 years and suffered through TennCare. Bredesen was in the health insurance biz and knew what a screwed-up deal Obamacare would be.)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 03, 2012 11:08 PM (sZRY5)
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who were they grooming at the convention? Funny thing is -- Oblamer is such a divider that a lot of dems ran from him and didn't even go to the convention. when he done fucking them up, they will have a long, hard climb back up. Provided he doesn't nuke us first.
Posted by: jc at October 03, 2012 11:11 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2012 11:13 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 03, 2012 11:15 PM (sZRY5)
then our elections would be one person who wants to live free of debt v. another person who wants to live free of debt. I could take that OK.
Posted by: jc at October 03, 2012 11:15 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 04, 2012 03:08 AM (sZRY5)
Openly or behind the scenes? I remember prior to Obama taking office that Bredesen was in competition with Sebelius for HHS Secretary and came out in favor of some kind of nationalized health insurance scheme.
But then I haven't kept up with him since.
Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2012 11:15 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: jc at October 04, 2012 03:15 AM (ufJKx)
I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking that lately.
Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2012 11:17 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 03, 2012 11:20 PM (/OhbZ)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 04, 2012 03:08 AM (sZRY5)
Openly or behind the scenes? I remember prior to Obama taking office that Bredesen was in competition with Sebelius for HHS Secretary and came out in favor of some kind of nationalized health insurance scheme.
But then I haven't kept up with him since.
Posted by: Robert at October 04, 2012 03:15 AM (4ixH5)
Openly - here's a link I just unearthed from 2010, WSJ oped: http://tinyurl.com/24rgf5k - it's pretty wonky. He also wrote a book about health care reform. I'm not that familiar with all the details, as I was spending a lot of time in TX at that point, but I do know he was one of the few Democrats willing to speak out about the problems with Obamacare.
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 03, 2012 11:20 PM (sZRY5)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 03, 2012 11:21 PM (/OhbZ)
Posted by: Robert at October 04, 2012 03:17 AM (4ixH5)
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I am hell on brain cells. You are in for a serious loss.
Posted by: jc at October 03, 2012 11:23 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: cthulhu at October 03, 2012 11:23 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 03, 2012 11:23 PM (sZRY5)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 03, 2012 11:24 PM (/OhbZ)
http://i47.tinypic.com/mkdxqh.jpg
Posted by: jc at October 04, 2012 03:21 AM (ufJKx)
Nice! Building a swamp to contrast with government?
Posted by: cthulhu at October 03, 2012 11:25 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 04, 2012 03:24 AM (/OhbZ)
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makes weeding a lot more pleasant, too.
I had to split all the caps to get the rough surface look. block supplier loaned me their splitter. interesting project. too much work. it's like putting $7K in a $500 used car. felt pretty silly for most of it.
Posted by: jc at October 03, 2012 11:31 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: cthulhu at October 04, 2012 03:25 AM (kaalw)
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that one zinged by me. 'splain, Lucy.
Posted by: jc at October 03, 2012 11:32 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 03, 2012 11:36 PM (/OhbZ)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 03, 2012 11:38 PM (/OhbZ)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 03, 2012 11:40 PM (/OhbZ)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 04, 2012 03:38 AM (/OhbZ)
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my garbage man smells like garbage.
Posted by: jc at October 03, 2012 11:43 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 03, 2012 11:44 PM (/OhbZ)
Do not lay laminate in halls. Just don't. Really. Nearly killed me.
If you're contemplating treated concrete as an option, thinner laminate than Pergo is an option -- just think of the paint as a sub-millimeter laminate with no underlayment. That's not to say that thicker laminates aren't better.....
Posted by: cthulhu at October 03, 2012 11:46 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 03, 2012 11:46 PM (/OhbZ)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 03, 2012 11:49 PM (/OhbZ)
Posted by: jc at October 04, 2012 03:32 AM (ufJKx)
Looked like it was a nice water garden with sunken tubs in the foreground. We have all sorts of odd water things in our garden (we moved about 400 gallons of tropical fish to this house in '97 by transferring them to agricultural vats while the tanks got moved.....then put the ag vats in the garden as waterlily ponds).
But we joke about maintaining a proper level of swampiness, and have dragonflies rattling their wings at us. We josh people that we keep a swamp in the backyard so that we can model what's going on in Sacramento, and go on riffs about high-speed model trains to nowhere and such.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 03, 2012 11:52 PM (kaalw)
I can relate, actually ... but how to deal with the height difference at the door ?
BB gun the concrete down a few millimeters then lay laminate?
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 04, 2012 03:49 AM (/OhbZ)
I lost this argument in my own home, but I'll make it here. Go for a wide plate of hardwood, mill it to the proper height to sit on top of each side, give it an easy stain, and about 7 coats of poly. Looks great, wears great, the heights aren't terribly obvious.......
Posted by: cthulhu at October 03, 2012 11:56 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 04, 2012 03:46 AM (/OhbZ)
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actually, I did.
Posted by: jc at October 03, 2012 11:57 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: cthulhu at October 03, 2012 11:58 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 03, 2012 11:59 PM (/OhbZ)
I can relate, actually ... but how to deal with the height difference at the door ?
BB gun the concrete down a few millimeters then lay laminate?
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 04, 2012 03:49 AM (/OhbZ)
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you won't even notice a 1/4" height difference, and higher than that you get used to right away. put the difference right under the door.
check out a carpet to linoleum threshold some time. the height that is simply ignored by people is pretty impressive.
Posted by: jc at October 04, 2012 12:00 AM (ufJKx)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 04, 2012 12:02 AM (/OhbZ)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 04, 2012 12:04 AM (/OhbZ)
check out a carpet to linoleum threshold some time. the height that is simply ignored by people is pretty impressive.
Posted by: jc at October 04, 2012 04:00 AM (ufJKx)
I ended up custom-milling my thresholds with a router table. Most were from 3/4" lumber, rounded over left and right, then undercut for the appropriate floor heights. You can undercut one side by 1/4 and the other by 1/2 and nobody will say boo. My biggest drop was onto tile, and I chamfered a 45-degree slope to drop onto the tile.....no problemo.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 04, 2012 12:06 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 04, 2012 12:07 AM (/OhbZ)
http://www.nelsonpaint.com/18060030000004E-Sierra-Granite-oil-based.html
beeeee you tee full ...
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 04, 2012 04:07 AM (/OhbZ)
You *can* achieve.....if you have as much experience as the factory guys.....and get a tailwind....on a downhill slope....
Posted by: cthulhu at October 04, 2012 12:11 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 04, 2012 12:11 AM (/OhbZ)
If you've got an IKEA near you, walk the showroom -- they've got TUNDRA down on concrete in several spots along the main path.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 04, 2012 12:12 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 04, 2012 12:13 AM (sZRY5)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 04, 2012 12:14 AM (/OhbZ)
Posted by: cthulhu at October 04, 2012 12:14 AM (kaalw)
http://www.nelsonpaint.com/18060030000004E-Sierra-Granite-oil-based.html
beeeee you tee full ...
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at October 04, 2012 04:07 AM (/OhbZ)
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cool. if you are that determined, save yourself a lot of work, time, exposure to chemicals, and risk that it is somehow going to be affected by the chemicals not working out as planned --
http://tinyurl.com/9yksz5k
Posted by: jc at October 04, 2012 12:14 AM (ufJKx)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 04, 2012 04:13 AM (sZRY5)
Too late.....I turn 50 in a month and the BH beat me to it -- and AARP is spittin' words in this household. They are dead to us for supporting Obamacare, and I hope they DIAF. Some other organization can arise with a similar function and no tie to the SCoaMFs that decided to hitch their wagon to progressivist utopianism.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 04, 2012 12:20 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: higg at October 04, 2012 12:22 AM (XMD/6)
Posted by: jc at October 04, 2012 12:32 AM (ufJKx)
Posted by: DC in Towson at October 04, 2012 12:39 AM (CJwi5)
Too late.....I turn 50 in a month and the BH beat me to it -- and AARP is spittin' words in this household. They are dead to us for supporting Obamacare, and I hope they DIAF. Some other organization can arise with a similar function and no tie to the SCoaMFs that decided to hitch their wagon to progressivist utopianism.
Posted by: cthulhu at October 04, 2012 04:20 AM (kaalw)
Oh, I agree completely... I'm a little ahead of you in the age dept. (but haven't hit Medicare age yet...), and I swear they started sending me their membership crap when I turned 40. I have no intention of sending them one red cent - or any other color of $$!
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 04, 2012 12:41 AM (sZRY5)
Posted by: George W Beagle at October 04, 2012 12:50 AM (sZRY5)
Liberalism in a nutshell. Good or bad, who cares, it's what we want.
Posted by: Karusky at October 04, 2012 05:33 AM (dKyuh)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 04, 2012 05:55 AM (exvgC)
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