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November 13, 2012

Overnight Open Thread (11-13-2012)
— Maetenloch

Q: Does Obamacare Impose a 3.8 Percent "Sales Tax" on Your Home?

Well contra the article linked the answer is Yes. The only good news is that most people won't be hit with it...for now.

We've been flooded with queries about this one ever since the health care bill became law. At the last minute, Democratic lawmakers decided on a new 3.8 percent tax on the net investment income of high-income persons. But the claim that this would amount to a $15,200 tax on the sale of a typical $400,000 home is utterly false.

The truth is that only a tiny percentage of home sellers will pay the tax. First of all, only those with incomes over $200,000 a year ($250,000 for married couples filing jointly) will be subject to it. And even for those who have such high incomes, the tax still won't apply to the first $250,000 on profits from the sale of a personal residence - or to the first $500,000 in the case of a married couple selling their home.

But if you own vacation or investment property though, look out:

The Internal Revenue Service says that to qualify for the $250,000/$500,000 exclusion, a seller must have owned the home and lived there as the seller's "main home" for at least two years out of the five years prior to the sale.

Obamacare just gets better and better doesn't it.

The People's Bailout

So Occupy Wall Street has moved on and is now buying and forgiving personal debt as part of Rolling Jubilee:

OWS is going to start buying distressed debt (medical bills, student loans, etc.) in order to forgive it. As a test run, we spent $500, which bought $14,000 of distressed debt. We then ERASED THAT DEBT. (If you're a debt broker, once you own someone's debt you can do whatever you want with it - traditionally, you hound debtors to their grave trying to collect. We're playing a different game. A MORE AWESOME GAME.)

This is a simple, powerful way to help folks in need -- to free them from heavy debt loads so they can focus on being productive, happy and healthy. As you can see from our test run, the return on investment approaches 30:1. That's a crazy bargain!

Well it's their money and they're free to give it away this way if they want. This may help some people but I suspect OWS will eventually learn what a moral hazard is and/or run out of money.

The 10 Most Obvious Oscar-Bait Film Tropes

The Magical Negro and the Semi-Retard are just two of the most well-known ones.

A Conservative's Buying Guide to Automobiles

Well I've been very happy with my Jeep but when I eventually replace it I'm going foreign.

Also meet our new TSA Union overlords.

I remember at TSA's founding when they swore that the it would never be unionized. Well they lied like mother-fucking liars.

Spot The Tranny Part XVIII

The Young Ones: Hands up, Who Likes Me?

The Whisky Advent Calendar

Now you can relive that daily anticipation towards Christmas grown-up -style.

It's a Wonderful Life (Hippie Edition)

Teh Tweet!

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1 Suckahs.

Posted by: Peaches at November 13, 2012 06:18 PM (kpCLl)

2 Please tell me no one invited the troll.

Posted by: dantealiegri at November 13, 2012 06:19 PM (mHU03)

3 I'M GOING TO DO A PLAY-BY-PLAY OF THIS THREAD, BAY-BEE!!!!!!!

Posted by: DICK VITALE!!!!!! at November 13, 2012 06:20 PM (9F2c1)

4 Good news everyone.

The GOP is going to get the blame if we go over the fiscal cliff.

Didn't Romney/Ryan just run a campaign of economic responsibility?

I could not see this coming at all.

http://tinyurl.com/arsjljh

Oh and Obama wants a lot more in taxes, 1.6 Trillion in new taxes

http://tinyurl.com/ac4ck7c

THE NEXT 4 YEARS ARE GOING TO BE A BLAST!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 13, 2012 06:20 PM (0fxcV)

5 No more trolls please?

Posted by: Adam at November 13, 2012 06:20 PM (/YJYi)

6 Y'all are so slow, I don't even feel good about being FIRST! Which I was.

Posted by: Peaches at November 13, 2012 06:20 PM (kpCLl)

7 Mae West still has it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 06:21 PM (nByYy)

8 Actually, if OWS wants to spend money to buy debt, I am all for that. First useful thing they've done.

Posted by: dantealiegri at November 13, 2012 06:21 PM (mHU03)

9 Brought forward from previous thread: Btw folks, lemme clear something up, in case it wasn't clear before. I love my wife very much and I take my vows real damn seriously. The fact that I laugh and joke about boobs or post "risquÃ© pics" has no bearing on my view of my relationship with Mrs 1981.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 13, 2012 06:21 PM (GEICT)

10 Huzzah. I'm drink a beer called "Vienna Lager" which the label assures me is a "Vienna Stlye Lager". I'm not sure what to make of this.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 13, 2012 06:22 PM (JTnC2)

11 Eleventh!!!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 13, 2012 06:22 PM (lOmbq)

12 Yeah the Horde should contact OWS and ask them to buy the mortgages of all those here that are suffering.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 06:22 PM (nByYy)

13 Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 13, 2012 10:21 PM (GEICT)

We know that . . .

Posted by: Peaches at November 13, 2012 06:22 PM (kpCLl)

14 Well, peaches, apparently some do not. Or atleast one doesn't.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 13, 2012 06:23 PM (GEICT)

15 Is it safe?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 06:23 PM (QupBk)

16 Hopefully Willte KiM is still trying to decipher 'visceral materialism.'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 06:23 PM (nByYy)

17 Can OWS buy the national debt?

Posted by: harleycowb at November 13, 2012 06:24 PM (wSTfB)

Who could tell the tranny with the ears on those sucker.

I love Mae West.

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 06:24 PM (OGJOF)

19 The fact that I laugh and joke about boobs or post "risquÃ© pics" has no bearing on my view of my relationship with Mrs 1981. We know that. But you're still going to give her my number and the shirtless pics, right? Thanks bro.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 13, 2012 06:24 PM (ON7fB)

20 Fiscal Cliff: All engines full ahead!

http://tinyurl.com/bdstj9w

Posted by: dantealiegri at November 13, 2012 06:24 PM (mHU03)

21 Yo yo yo

Posted by: fluffy at November 13, 2012 06:24 PM (O6q63)

22 TROLL HUNTER

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 13, 2012 06:24 PM (Kd6lF)

23 BC, not sure what brought that up (ive been "working" all day) but I assume it weren't too good. Pretty sure that everyone here knows that you adore your wife. And if they don't, fuck em.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 13, 2012 06:25 PM (JTnC2)

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 13, 2012 10:21 PM (GEICT)

She reading your posts? /jk

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 06:25 PM (OGJOF)

25 Actually, if OWS wants to spend money to buy debt, I am all for that. First useful thing they've done.
--

How long until they buy debt that just coincidentally helps an OWS leader?

Posted by: Mayday at November 13, 2012 06:25 PM (F3s39)

Obama just said in the debate that the sequester was not going to happen.

HOLD HIM TO IT AND FUCKING BLAME HIIM LIKE CRAZY IF NOT!!!!!!

This shit is not that hard. And tax THE FUCK out of hollywood. Why is no one rallying around this idea.

TAX HOLLYWOOD!!!!!!!!!!!

Can we start that movement already???

Posted by: prescient11 at November 13, 2012 06:25 PM (zKwYq)

27 Hi folks! Back from a nice dinner out. We basically have one restaurant locally that "gets it" otherwise we have to schlep up to Salt Lake. I *loved* Advent calendars as a kid. My godparents, who were so cool b/c they treated me like a real person, would send me one every year. Loved loved loved when that big envelope would arrive in the mail. LOVED the colorful, be-glittered cardboard-y calendar. Happy memories.

Posted by: Y-not at November 13, 2012 06:25 PM (5H6zj)

28 Isn't the debt usually well on its way to wrecking your credit before it gets sold? And aren't the occupy brain trusts still enriching the evil capitalist debtors by buying the debt?

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at November 13, 2012 06:25 PM (IPG9V)

29 Roses are red, Violets are flowers, Fk! the UN, and Fk! Samantha Powers...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 06:25 PM (gh+mp)

30 crap, I mean creditors, not debtors

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at November 13, 2012 06:25 PM (IPG9V)

31 harleycowb: once our primary debtholder, the american people get tired of trying to collect, sure!

Posted by: dantealiegri at November 13, 2012 06:25 PM (mHU03)

32 Well, peaches, apparently some do not. Or atleast one doesn't.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 13, 2012 10:23 PM (GEICT)

As long as that one isn't your lovely wife, how can it matter?

Posted by: Peaches at November 13, 2012 06:26 PM (kpCLl)

33 Hey fluffster, thanks for having my back. You're solid.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 13, 2012 06:26 PM (JTnC2)

34 Old school Bat signal.

Posted by: huerfano at November 13, 2012 06:26 PM (bAGA/)

35 Why did we bail out Morgan Stanley, again?

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 13, 2012 06:26 PM (Kd6lF)

36 If you can buy debt for less than 4 cents on the dollar, why don't the debt holders scrape up the money themselves?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 06:26 PM (QupBk)

37 @6

I FEEL GOOD ABOUT YOU BEING FIRST BABY. YOU ARE A P.T.P.-ER AND ONE OF MY TOP EIGHT DIAPER DANDIES THIS SEASON BABY. YOU REMIND ME OF THE GENERAL, ROBERT. MONTGOMERY. KNIGHT. WHO I BELIEVE SHOULD HAVE THE COURT AT INDIANA UNIVERSITY NAMED AFTER HIM AND FEEL COMPELLED TO MENTION AT EVERY GAME WHETHER IT IS RELEVANT OR NOT, BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: DICK VITALE!!!!!! at November 13, 2012 06:27 PM (9F2c1)

38
Hmmm ... if it's possible to buy back $14,000 worth of debt for $500 (about 3.5 cents on the dollar), why don't debtors just ... *buy back their own debt*?

I know, I know, they're debtors, they don't have any money. But even a down-and-outer should be able to raise that kind of money.

By the way, if the OWS types want to spend their money that way, why not? It's their cash, and it's better on that than than the mischief they usually indulge in.

Posted by: Brown Line at November 13, 2012 06:27 PM (w/wSF)

39 Toby, I see that great minds think alike. (And fools seldom differ.)

Posted by: Brown Line at November 13, 2012 06:27 PM (w/wSF)

40 Posted by: Y-not at November 13, 2012 10:25 PM (5H6zj)

No photos of the bra/sweater combo?

I'm not sure I like you any more.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 13, 2012 06:27 PM (GsoHv)

41 Can OWS buy the national debt?

Wait, all summer, they couldn't afford toilet paper, now they're gonna buy the national debt?

Posted by: Peaches at November 13, 2012 06:28 PM (kpCLl)

42 And if I can buy people's debt for that, and then squeeze the shit out of them, I might survive the Obamaclypse in style.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 06:28 PM (QupBk)

43 Secession: Go sign every secession pettition. Fight back. They're fighting back in Quebec, and in Scotland. And those are "good" fight-backs. They're sticking it to the man, don't ya know? So, via the principle of political ju-jitsu, if nothing else, follow them down that road. Obama's victory supposes a comity that does not exist. He's counting on it, and Boehner & Crew are obliging. You can vote no. So, vote. Vote to stop the madness. A government only has power with the consent of the governed, that's a foundational principle of the American republic. So, do vote that this government does not have your consent. You refuse to be ruled by it.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 13, 2012 06:28 PM (WcgMM)

44 I really hope Katie and Arin will truly be happy.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 06:28 PM (nByYy)

45 17 Can OWS buy the national debt?

Posted by: harleycowb at November 13, 2012 10:24 PM (wSTfB)

When they're done with that, they can start paying off the unfunded liabilities.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at November 13, 2012 06:28 PM (9SwFX)

46 Duke vs. Kentucky? I'm rooting for SMOD.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 13, 2012 06:28 PM (JTnC2)

thanks for having my back

Happy to do so. You're a Moron's Moron.

Posted by: fluffy at November 13, 2012 06:28 PM (O6q63)

48 >Yeah the Horde should contact OWS and ask them to buy the mortgages of all those here that are suffering.

And then sue the fuck out of them for discrimination when they refuse to help us right? That's page 2 of that particular playbook.

Posted by: DanInMN at November 13, 2012 06:28 PM (khf9A)

49 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 13, 2012 06:29 PM (JMmQ9)

50 bunk

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 06:29 PM (LRFds)

Young Ones was mandatory viewing in college.

Vyvyan throws the Molotov cocktail into Rick's bedroom, which explodes]

Rick: Oh, well, how ruddy considerate, Vyvyan. Thank you very much!

Vyvyan: Why aren't you dead?

Rick: I'm not prepared to discuss it with you, Vyvyan. You will be hearing from my solicitors in the morning. I'm going to write to my MP.

Neil: You haven't got an MP, Rick. You're an anarchist.

Rick: Oh. Well, then I shall write to the lead singer of Echo and the Bunnymen!

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 13, 2012 06:29 PM (9ghZ6)

52 Trying to decide if I'm going to liquidate my 401k holdings from the jobs I've held since graduating college 12 years ago. I've had this job almost 2 years and can't touch this money while I'm still employed. I can get the other money and am seriously thinking about buying silver.

Any ideas from the horde?

Posted by: burnitup at November 13, 2012 06:30 PM (Q1Cx8)

53 What I like is that there was a counter petition to have everyone that signed a sessecion petition stripped of their citizenship.

First - isn't there .. an .. amendment .. about this?
Second - seems like it struck a nerve.

Posted by: dantealiegri at November 13, 2012 06:30 PM (mHU03)

54 Re the automobile buying guide:

I've taken the pledge. I am never buying another UAW-built vehicle ever again.

However, in all truthfulness, this is not a recent development.

I swore off Detroit iron permanently back in the 1980s, after a friend found the source of a persistent rattle in his car: an empty beer bottle in a rocker panel. The rest of the car wasn't much better. A complete POS which depreciated faster than a falling brick. My friend said he'd have come out better if he had just burned a big stack of dollars in his fireplace at home.

Been happy with Japanese cars built in nonunion Stateside plants.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 13, 2012 06:30 PM (ymG7s)

55 Cowbody - amen brother SHAVAMA

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 13, 2012 06:31 PM (Kd6lF)

56 >>No photos of the bra/sweater combo? Here are my puppies: https://twitter.com/moxiemom/status/268556542712893440

Posted by: Y-not at November 13, 2012 06:31 PM (5H6zj)

57 @40

THE BRA-SWEATER COMBINATION IS ONE OF THE MOST STORIED COMBINATIONS IN THE HISTORY OF MAE WEST. MAE WEST IS ALMOST AS OLD AS I AM, BAY-BEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE STORIED PROGRAMS BECAUSE I CAN JUST RIFF ON THEIR HISTORIES FOR AN HOUR INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO THE GAME I'M COVERING, BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: DICK VITALE!!!!!! at November 13, 2012 06:31 PM (9F2c1)

58 And then sue the fuck out of them for discrimination when they refuse to help us right? That's page 2 of that particular playbook. Giving a new meaning to the term Red Lining.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 06:31 PM (QupBk)

59 Well, actually ONE of those is going to be my puppy. They passed their eye checks so we'll pick one of them up after T-day.

Posted by: Y-not at November 13, 2012 06:31 PM (5H6zj)

60 Posted by: burnitup at November 13, 2012 10:30 PM (Q1Cx

There has to be a large enough market in any commodity that there is always more than one buyer...otherwise you are screwed.

Buy something that is useful even if you can't sell it to someone else.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 13, 2012 06:32 PM (GsoHv)

61 Nice rack Y-not. lol. They are adorable.

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 06:32 PM (OGJOF)

62 Any ideas from the horde?

Posted by: burnitup at November 13, 2012 10:30 PM (Q1Cx

I believe you can take it out without penalty if you use it as a downpayment on a primary residence. But, don't take my word for it, ask somebody who actually knows (or google it). You can also move it from whatever funds or other instruments it's in and put in a cash position. That doesn't show any growth, but it also shows no shrinkage. Yet . . .

Posted by: Peaches at November 13, 2012 06:32 PM (kpCLl)

63 Hmmm ... if it's possible to buy back $14,000 worth of debt for $500 (about 3.5 cents on the dollar), why don't debtors just ... *buy back their own debt*? ------------ Why would you? It's already on your credit report and the original lender has already blacklisted you. But really, lenders will contort in all kinds of ways to lend the original debtor "buy" the debt through a settlement instead, isn't settling a debt for less than originally owed pretty much the same thing?

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at November 13, 2012 06:32 PM (IPG9V)

64 The Meat Curtain Mafia

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 06:33 PM (uvNSk)

65 I have a '99 and an '03 Camry. They are amazing vehicles.

Was going to buy a used Rav4, but putting that off due to re-election of President Commie.

However, I am telling those who do not know me that well that I was going to buy a brand new Ford, but can't because of the Obama Fiscal Cliff.

I'm in the Detroit area, so every time you don't buy a new American car, a uaw member dies inside. I'm OK with that.

Posted by: shbiumi at November 13, 2012 06:33 PM (z63Tr)

66 @52 Do you have any large debts like credit cards, loans or a mortgage that could be drawn down completely with the monies in your 401k?

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 13, 2012 06:33 PM (0fxcV)

67 TOP FIVE OTHER LADIES ON THE SIDE THAT GEN. PETRAEUS DOESN'T WANT FOLKS TO KNOW ABOUT

5. Trixie, the amazing locked-crate escape artist at Pirate's Dinner Adventure in Austin

4. Monica Lewinsky (as part of her comeback tour)

3. A to-be-named contestant appearing this year on "RuPaul's Drag Race"

2. The cut-out of Angelina Jolie promoting "Salt" on DVD that's still standing at the general's nearest Blockbuster Video location

1. The Obamaphone lady

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2012 06:33 PM (7B7jB)

68 Burnitup.
First will have to roll the 401k into a RothIRA.
If you do a direct withdrawl, your 401k will automatically hold 20%. And then you will be taxed normally on what is left.
If you roll into a RothIRA, that 20% is not withheld but still need to pay taxes.

Second, don't buy silver first off. Pay off your debts first. Then work on building up a tenacity chest to ride out tough times, food and such. Then worry about trade/barter items like silver.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 06:33 PM (nByYy)

69 @53, what I like about it is that anyone stripped of citizenship would immediately be eligible for free stuff and amnesty from the same people who petitioned to have them stripped of citizenship.

Posted by: Cato the Elder at November 13, 2012 06:33 PM (xWiaq)

70 I can't wait to see OWS retire all $1 trillion in student loan debt- $500 at a time...

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 13, 2012 06:33 PM (1k4dd)

71 Cool thing about the Petraeus scandal? Happened under Obama.

So I'm just referring to it as "the latest Obama scandal."

Posted by: shbiumi at November 13, 2012 06:34 PM (z63Tr)

72 59 Well, actually ONE of those is going to be my puppy. They passed their eye checks so we'll pick one of them up after T-day.

Posted by: Y-not at November 13, 2012 10:31 PM (5H6zj)

I love them, Y-not!! Are you getting a boy or a girl? Full collies or shelties? OMG, they are so cute . . .

Posted by: Peaches at November 13, 2012 06:34 PM (kpCLl)

73 53 Dante,

I'm humored by the idiots not getting that they are acknowledging that we have stopped and likely stopped at least 12 and maybe 40 years ago being a nation.

Stop kissing the corpse and start raising a new Lady liberty far afield from the libtards.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 06:35 PM (LRFds)

74 Y-Not, they're adorable!!! Collies?

Posted by: antisocialist at November 13, 2012 06:35 PM (j/nZn)

75 Thanks everybody. Stems from something said in the morning news dump. Every so often, we get a glimpse behind the signatureAoS rowdiness and bawdiness. Sometimes it is a pleasant surprise - BCochran, despite his penchant for posting risque photos, takes his marriage and others much more seriously than his internet persona would suggest. Other glimpses into how people really think aren't so pleasant.... It was followed up by an "explanation" that basically said "well, I meant it well, I just assumed from the stuff you post that you were one of those young ppl who don't take their vows seriously. I mean, married men don't typically talk about other women..." Been griping me all day honestly.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 13, 2012 06:35 PM (GEICT)

76 I love that these taxes and whatnot are hitting at income levels that are barely middle class survivable in blue states like California. >>Was going to buy a used Rav4 That was our second car. IIRC I had a '97. Lasted 11 years until I smashed it. Very happy with it overall, although toward the end it was not much fun on the freeway.

Posted by: Y-not at November 13, 2012 06:35 PM (5H6zj)

77 Fuckitall, I have two beers left and I just broke the neck of one whilst opening it on a countertop. Don't get me wrong, I'm still gonna drink the fucker, but that's a goddamned amateur move. And I'm better than that. (I just wanted to say 'whilst'. I think it's cool. Fuck you, that's why.)

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 13, 2012 06:35 PM (JTnC2)

78 Second, don't buy silver first off. Pay off your debts first. This. You can just borrow your own money from your 401K, up to half of what you have in there, excluding any company match I think. Use the money to pay off debt and then you are paying the interest to yourself rather than someone else.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 06:35 PM (QupBk)

New standard for "leading questions"....

MSNBC Daily Poll Question: "Will Republicans in Congress finally work for the American people?"

Better: Will Republicans in Congress finally capitulate to President Obama?'

Best: Will President Obama finally cooperate with elected leaders in the House?"

Posted by: Icedog at November 13, 2012 06:35 PM (PTS+l)

1. OMG I went against Tami and peaches on AOSHQ without meaning to re: stuffing recipes!....I did not mean too, it's just my favorite recipe because my Granny (best friend) taught me and I really, really like it.

2. Mae West...My Great Aunt Ree from Baton Rouge, LA did the best impressions of her when I was little. "Come up and see me sometime"

"Peel me a grape, Beulah"

Posted by: concrete girl at November 13, 2012 06:36 PM (y2Ojs)

81 TOP FIVE OTHER LADIES ON THE SIDE THAT GEN. PETRAEUS DOESN'T WANT FOLKS TO KNOW ABOUT

5. Trixie, the amazing locked-crate escape artist at Pirate's Dinner Adventure in Austin

4. Monica Lewinsky (as part of her comeback tour)

3. A to-be-named contestant appearing this year on "RuPaul's Drag Race"

2. The cut-out of Angelina Jolie promoting "Salt" on DVD that's still standing at the general's nearest Blockbuster Video location

1. The Obamaphone lady

Which two are the guards, which two are the forwards, and which is the center?

Posted by: DICK VITALE!!!!!! at November 13, 2012 06:36 PM (9F2c1)

82 That sex change sweet hearts article was sad. Stop the world and let me off!

Posted by: puddleglum at November 13, 2012 06:36 PM (GCTeZ)

83 If you're not first, you're last!!!

Posted by: Ricky Bobby at November 13, 2012 06:36 PM (Md8Uo)

84 @53, what I like about it is that anyone stripped of citizenship would immediately be eligible for free stuff and amnesty from the same people who petitioned to have them stripped of citizenship. Whoa.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 06:37 PM (QupBk)

85 @77 What are you Canadian? Only Canadians use whilst! You hoser

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 13, 2012 06:37 PM (0fxcV)

86 77 DC in Towson,

Schlitz Malt Liquor baby....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 06:37 PM (LRFds)

87 Watching O'Really tonight and he had a guy interview the crowd outside a Bill Maher concert in New York. One girl said that Obama had run up the smallest amount of debt of any of the Presidents. Most informed voters ever.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 13, 2012 06:37 PM (mV8sg)

88 This 3.8% "real estate tax" is just more right-wing myth. It is really just an extended capital gains tax on second homes that pass the $200,000 threshold.

Still, it is too bad about Gallup, guys. They tried to hone in on Rasmussen's conservative bias turf.

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at November 13, 2012 06:38 PM (g0RWK)

89 "I can get the other money and am seriously thinking about buying silver. Any ideas from the horde?"

If you buy silver or any other precious metal, buy it for cash, untraceably.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102

Have a plan to safely geocache it. Including directions to the cache that are not GPS dependent. People have come to believe that the constellation will always be there and working. A very chancy assumption in several ways.

Buy it from an impeccably trusted source. And "trust but verify", per Ronaldus Maximus.

http://www.myfoxny.com/story/19578206/fake-gold-bars-turn-up-in-manhattan

Posted by: torquewrench at November 13, 2012 06:38 PM (ymG7s)

90 I have thought the self-assured aggressiveness of the TSA in the last few years was due in part to unionization. But at least Max Cleland is still out of his job. Nice guy though, I'm sure.

Posted by: A. at November 13, 2012 06:38 PM (WVAHc)

91 Oatmeal.

Posted by: eman at November 13, 2012 06:38 PM (sRus3)

92 84 Toby 928th,

Yup it is why i was in awe of their genius.....

fuck it as long as we can take our guns and air cover send us to 'gitmo.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 06:38 PM (LRFds)

93 The F'n Limey's use "Whilst" too!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 06:39 PM (uvNSk)

94 43 Secession: Go sign every secession pettition. Why in the hell would I give my name to whitehouse.gov? Have you not heard of the Hundred Flowers campaign?

Posted by: rickl at November 13, 2012 06:39 PM (sdi6R)

95 I love them, Y-not!! Are you getting a boy or a girl? Full collies or shelties? OMG, they are so cute . . . ---- Getting a girl. These are both smooth collies which will be a relief after all the fur from our rough collie (who is now 3.5 yrs). After the election my husband panicked and almost backed out. That's actually what got him crying btw, the thought that he couldn't go ahead and get a second dog. But after he settled down and we talked realistically about it, decided to go for it. No vacations until we get a Republican president, except for places we can drive to.

Posted by: Y-not at November 13, 2012 06:39 PM (5H6zj)

96 @77

MAKING UP WORDS BABY!!!!!! YOU ARE A PRIME-TIME P.T.P. DIAPER-TASTIC-DUKE-A-RIFFIC AWESOME SHOCK CITY BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Posted by: DICK VITALE!!!!!! at November 13, 2012 06:39 PM (9F2c1)

97 Peaches! Am I dead to you? If so, why, cuz I get drunk sometimes and piss people off without intention. BC, I, for one, have always taken your comments in the spirit of the moron meaning. Too bad some have no sense of humor. With ya, FWIW.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 13, 2012 06:39 PM (cQmXn)

98 England and the United States, two countries separated by a common language.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 06:40 PM (nByYy)

99 88 HH,

horseshit, but thanks for playing,

This is what Obarka would call in his non native native Durka Durkastani dialect 'the camel's nose in the tent"

The bracket creep or outright boning will be quick.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 06:40 PM (LRFds)

100 Posted by: concrete girl at November 13, 2012 10:36 PM (y2Ojs)

girl, stop it!!! whatever your Granny made is always gonna be your fave!! far as I know, there's never been an actual recipe war here on the HQ.

{{{{{}}}}}

Posted by: Peaches at November 13, 2012 06:40 PM (kpCLl)

101 Okay, so I tried to kiss my dog is in his special place. It went okay at first, until I really got into it, then he started growling so I thought I better stop. Thoughts on what I did wrong?

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at November 13, 2012 06:40 PM (/YJYi)

102 Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 13, 2012 10:35 PM I'm much more *concerned* about your commitment to your job than your commitment to your wife. Posting on the morning thread and the ONT?

Anyone that has been here more than 3 seconds knows you are a good family man. Don't sweat about the ignorant fuckwits.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 13, 2012 06:41 PM (JTnC2)

103 If I put it into a Roth IRA I won't be able to touch the money without penalty until I'm 62 right?

I have little debt. Student loans and a truck payment. I rent a house but am looking to buy a couple of acres with a small house (cash from 401k) to be semi self sufficient if TSHTF. Could I use the money penalty free as a down payment on a house?

A couple of my funds aren't doing anything growth wise but I don't want to move it to the cash position because I won't physically have the money in my possession. Another reason to cash out and take the tax hit at this years rate.

Posted by: burnitup at November 13, 2012 06:42 PM (Q1Cx8)

104 http://www.rothira.com/blog/estimated-taxes-and-roth-ira-conversions

A web site to look over.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 06:42 PM (nByYy)

105 Peaches! Am I dead to you? If so, why, cuz I get drunk sometimes and piss people off without intention.

Kalneva!!!! Whatever would make you think that?? OMG, no, never. It has been a scant week (15 min to go) since they called that bullshit election and I've had this pneumonia thingy and been pretty sick and so have been jumping in and then drifting back to the couch with no notice. big hug!!

Posted by: Peaches at November 13, 2012 06:42 PM (kpCLl)

106 94 Rickl,

I don;t think it'll fly this time....so prudence

I plan to be ready next time if the wife gets fired.

No EPA able to just say 'fuck you no" sounds nice i will petition we make a law that lets us send EPA and IRS who try to cross the Texas boundary hand gliding without a glider

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 06:43 PM (LRFds)

107 Hmmm ... if it's possible to buy back $14,000 worth of debt for $500 (about 3.5 cents on the dollar), why don't debtors just ... *buy back their own debt*? Posted by: Brown Line at November 13, 2012 10:27 PM (w/wSF) The Occupoopers are only able to buy the shittiest sort of debt t these prices. Debt that they would never collect, anyway. The Poopers are doing this for headlines since it's a total joke. Real debt that they might be able to squeeze money out of costs a hell of a lot more. The Poopers are buying debt that the debtors aren't bothered about (if they are still alive, real people, or in the country) and aren't suffering under. If the Poopers want to keep doing this, let them, but it's all meaningless. They're doing it for PR not to actually relieve the debt of people who are suffering from its service. I'm willing to bet that if the Occupoopers are paying 3.5 cents on the dollar for this debt that it's only worth 1 cent on the dollar.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 13, 2012 06:43 PM (X3lox)

108 Keep an eye on OWS. They are on the ground in NYC acting like social services to storm victims. And they aren't doing this in the name of Christ. I think they are employing the Hezbollah playbook. Wonder who is funding them?

Posted by: Ronin at November 13, 2012 06:43 PM (AzwZn)

109 A RothIRA means you have access to the money at any time. Hence why its treated as regular income. But check that site out Burnitup.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 06:43 PM (nByYy)

110 No vacations until we get a Republican president, except for places we can drive to. I really thought we'd be going to DC this coming year. Hubby has never been, and I don't want to go while the tyrant is sitting in the WH.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 13, 2012 06:43 PM (cQmXn)

111 If I put it into a Roth IRA I won't be able to touch the money without penalty until I'm 62 right?

Regular IRA is 59 and a half. Which can creep up faster than you would ever think possible, lol!

Posted by: Peaches at November 13, 2012 06:43 PM (kpCLl)

112 How about a used Ford? Is that acceptable under Moron standards? Carried over from the previous thread: Our favorite holiday dish came from my late mother-in-law, a great lady...wish I could say the same about her daughter... ...but I digress. Anyway, the MIL would take dill pickles, then spread them with cream cheese, wrap the pickles in deli thin-sliced ham, then slice the pickles. They're a great appetizer. But until I married her daughter, she never had a name. I asked her what she called them. She took a couple of seconds to think, smiled and said: "Little S**tties". The name stuck, even though we had to change it to "Little Poopies" once the kids were born.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread getting all Adam Savage in your face at November 13, 2012 06:43 PM (5J54Q)

113 Could I use the money penalty free as a down payment on a house? Actually yes. I was just looking at the exceptions to the penalty rule but since I didn't meet them, I didn't mentally file them away. Google something like ira withdrawal penalty exceptions.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 06:43 PM (QupBk)

114 If their debt is that cheap we should buy a chunk of it and put the screws to them

Posted by: Jimmy at November 13, 2012 06:43 PM (Gk5QE)

115

Well shut the door!

You mean that RIGHT NOW that 3.8% tax on real estate sales is only going to be on RICH PEOPLE?

For now.

And when it still doesn't raise enough money for ACA, then.......

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at November 13, 2012 06:44 PM (Md8Uo)

116 @98 Those fuckers have ruined the language. They use the word taps instead of faucet. How weird is that? I'm really drunk

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 13, 2012 06:44 PM (0fxcV)

117 109 Anna Puma,

Yup the difference between IRAs has to do with buying access versus paying tax as you make your contributions....

all about da tax

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 06:45 PM (LRFds)

118 Thoughts on what I did wrong?

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at November 13, 2012 10:40 PM (/YJYi)

There's a guy back on the last thread who could probably help you a lot with that. But, he's NOT A HOMOSEXUAL, so be careful what you say!

Posted by: Peaches at November 13, 2012 06:45 PM (kpCLl)

119

Uh.... folks... the Tax says PROPERTY... not land... not houses....

Ergo, sell you business? You get taxed. Sell a Classic CAR? You get taxed.... sell you boat??? Tax... Sell STOCKS???? TAXED!

this is an across the board Profit Sales Tax... as written... I just don't think they want to admit it yet.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 13, 2012 06:45 PM (lZBBB)

120 Thoughts on what I did wrong?

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at November 13, 2012 10:40 PM (/YJYi)

@101: You probably didn't transition from the 1-3-1 zone offense into the man-to-man Princeton option smoothly enough, letting the other guy's point guard in for an easy layup while your forwards were switching places.

Wait, "kiss my dog in his special place" is a basketball play, right?

Posted by: DICK VITALE!!!!!! at November 13, 2012 06:46 PM (9F2c1)

121 95 My daughter and her husband have a rough Collie and yes, he does shed. A bunch.
Glad your husband didn't change his mind about the second goggie...I have a black Lab, she's always been an only dog and my husband absolutely refused to get another dog. Then, my mom passed away this past Halloween, and I inherited her schnoodle-beagle (which is exactly what it sounds like...a mutt). Made a huge difference in my Lab...she's got someone to rough house with, and I don't find myself constantly dodging tennis balls.

Posted by: antisocialist at November 13, 2012 06:46 PM (j/nZn)

122 Holy Shit!

I just figured out the whole day's news!

Most of the senior officers in the entire US Military have been seduced by
Valerie Plame in drag.

Posted by: al zimer at November 13, 2012 06:46 PM (VVE2c)

123 Serious question.

Republicans had 23 Senate pickup opportunities to 10 for the Democrats yet you managed to LOSE two seats.

WTF happened?

I know Romney sucked but you lost North Dakota (Senate) where Romney easily won.

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at November 13, 2012 06:46 PM (g0RWK)

124 Never. say. die.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 06:46 PM (DoZD+)

125

Well Romeo, I also heard that capital gains taxes are going up next year.

I blame Bush. And why not?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at November 13, 2012 06:47 PM (Md8Uo)

126 102 I'm much more *concerned* about your commitment to your job than your commitment to your wife. Posting on the morning thread and the ONT? Anyone that has been here more than 3 seconds knows you are a good family man. Don't sweat about the ignorant fuckwits. Posted by: DC in Towson at November 13, 2012 10:41 PM (JTnC2) Lmao. Thanks. And yeah, working for a fam biz buys you some leeway. Staring at drawings all day will drive you nuts, so a break every now and then is needed. Plus, there can be a decent bit of downtime day to day. Thanks Kalneva!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 13, 2012 06:47 PM (GEICT)

127 And don't forget at start of next year, all those unfair Bush tax cuts expire. So everyone's tax rates will jump. Like on Capital Gains. And go from a 0% Estate Tax to 55%.

So better move now.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 06:47 PM (nByYy)

128 119 Romeo 13,

Oh they know what they did....

and remember what I said the other night when my brain was still on fire...

55 unelected people interpret these rules into defacto law on the fly.

YAY

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 06:47 PM (LRFds)

129 @123 Fraud!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 06:47 PM (uvNSk)

130 Thanks Anna.
I'm really worried about a financial / currency collapse or the fucking govt pulling a Kirchner and stealing everyone's 401k money. That's why I'm thinking I want out of the financial markets completely.
I'll check out the website.

Posted by: burnitup at November 13, 2012 06:48 PM (Q1Cx8)

131 So no underage Elmo sex. Just regular Elmo sex. Glad that's cleared up.

Posted by: NCKate at November 13, 2012 06:48 PM (MsQkt)

132 125 CJ burch,

I blame Bush too....

//Edward Longshanks

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 06:48 PM (LRFds)

133 Posted by: Captain Whitebread Sounds fun! So I missed a food thread, huh? Damn! My favorite Thanksgiving dish (aside from the turkey, of course) are creamed onions. Has to be made with Aunt Nellie's jarred onions know or it's no good.

Posted by: Y-not at November 13, 2012 06:48 PM (5H6zj)

134 Oh good, peaches. I had inquired about your health a couple times in previous ONTs, and didn't get a reply. I get it. You were drugged and groggy and couldn't. I hope you're better! Hugs!

Posted by: Kalneva at November 13, 2012 06:48 PM (cQmXn)

135 Serious question.

I've also got a cat. Now, a couple months ago I tired to stick my finger in his bung hole. Ever since then I can't get the fucker to let me pick it up. Thoughts?

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at November 13, 2012 06:48 PM (/YJYi)

136 Well, I bought my 1,100 sq. ft. condo in Noe Valley (S.F. neighborhood just south of the Castro; my "biborhood", so to speak) for $200,000 in '97. Sunk half that much in to make it livable (it was more a tearer-downer than a fixer-upper) and how I owe about $214k while it appraises for $600k. Why move - Prop. 13 AND I avoid a 3.8% tax on half the gain.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 13, 2012 06:48 PM (/nqdo)

137 The REAL Reason Obama Wants College For Everyone http://politicalhat.com/?p=569 What is the real reason why Obama wants all children to go to college? So he can have more future voters like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIk1pY7Yg8U College students cheering for Karl Marx? Considering the Â“qualityÂ” education students are receiving, it is only a wonder that not even more students arenÂ’t members of the modern-day Komsomol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdajUraK0LM ItÂ’s only a matter of time before the liquidation of the ~~Kulaks~~ 1% beginsÂ…

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 13, 2012 06:49 PM (sZTYJ)

138 I blame Bush....

Posted by: Petraeus at November 13, 2012 06:49 PM (r2PLg)

139 QUO VADIS?

Posted by: Zuzu's petals at November 13, 2012 06:49 PM (TVtzh)

140 130 Burnitup,

not to be an asshole but if they raid your 401k they'll nail the IRA cookie jar concurrently IMHO....

if you took the saver's credit on an IRA at any point you gave them access....

sweet dreams.

<---vulnerable too

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 06:49 PM (LRFds)

141 So no underage Elmo sex. Just regular Elmo sex. Glad that's cleared up. Posted by: NCKate at November 13, 2012 10:48 PM (MsQkt) ------------- So we can go back to never using "Elmo" and "sex" in the same sentence again, right? Next week maybe we can go back to not using "Petraeus" and "sex" together. Please?

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at November 13, 2012 06:49 PM (IPG9V)

142 @119 There are a shit ton of taxes in the obamination that people are going to be socked with. People are going to be pissed, I wonder if the GOP will get the blame for obamacare?

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 13, 2012 06:49 PM (0fxcV)

143 Who sells $14,000 in debt for $500? Answer: someone who knows that debt is a lost cause. Congrats, OWS; you just forgave fourteen grand you were never going to recover anyway. In other news, I am forgiving Denise Richards from having to sleep with me.

Posted by: Secundus at November 13, 2012 06:50 PM (HqtZj)

144 @135 Find the Sharpest Corner of Nearest Table, and Bang your Forehead against it till I say Stop!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 06:50 PM (uvNSk)

145 I've also got a cat. Now, a couple months ago I tired to stick my finger in his bung hole. Ever since then I can't get the fucker to let me pick it up. Thoughts? Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at November 13, 2012 10:48 PM (/YJYi) go fuck yourself and leave us alone?

Posted by: jake in ID at November 13, 2012 06:50 PM (2CiZb)

146 So better move now.

Posted by: Anna Puma

I plan on dying shortly just to avoid that tax increase on my estate.

It's for the children.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at November 13, 2012 06:50 PM (Md8Uo)

147 Bill Maher = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 06:50 PM (DoZD+)

148

Funniest shit you will read all day! This list of "President Obama's 1st term accomplishments" is currently being circulated by the libs:

1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending
2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices
3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women
4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
6 Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information
7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldierÂ’s family
8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act
9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
10. Limits on lobbyistÂ’s access to the White House
11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration
12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date
13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which werenÂ’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan
14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research
15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research
16. New federal funding for science and research labs
17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards
18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect
19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools
20. New funds for school construction
21 The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out
22. US Auto industry rescue plan
23. Housing rescue plan
24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan
25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying
26. US financial and banking rescue plan
27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed
28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with theGeneva Convention standards
29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops
30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010
31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols
32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic
33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions
34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office
35. Successful release of US captain held bySomali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job
36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast
37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles
38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales
39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government
40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children
41. Signed national service legislation; expandednational youth service program
42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones
43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions
44. Expanding vaccination programs
45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters
46. Closed offshore tax safe havens
47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals
48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back
49.. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industryÂ’s predatory practices
50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources
51. Lower drug costs for seniors
52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings
53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel
54. Improved housing for military personnel
55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses
56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals
57 Increasing student loans
58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program
59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy
60. Established a new cyber security office
61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.
62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts
63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness
64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient
65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced
66. Improving benefits for veterans
67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration
68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud
69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco
70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules
71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports
72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons
73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive
74. Making more loans available to small businesses
75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare
76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court
77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans
78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000
79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel
80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan
81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan
82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans
83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production
84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters
85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket
86. Held first Seder in White House
87. Attempting to reform the nationÂ’s healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured
88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform
89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform
90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform

Posted by: Icedog at November 13, 2012 06:50 PM (PTS+l)

149 Nevermind....don't even try to read that crap.....

Posted by: Icedog at November 13, 2012 06:51 PM (PTS+l)

150
"I rent a house but am looking to buy a couple of acres with a small house (cash from 401k) to be semi self sufficient if TSHTF."

Where?

There are a lot of semi-rural areas that are going to be overrun with no hope of rescue if things go Tango Uniform.

If you are buying a rural retreat. it had better be far, far from any urban area, hard to find, and it had better have stable likeminded people nearby for mutual support.

Read Victor Davis Hanson about how the formerly placid Central Valley of California is slowly reverting to a lawless no-man's-land. And that's _now_. Imagine it when law enforcement goes from delayed response to not even answering the phone.

Note also that maintaining a totally self-sufficient independent homestead is incredibly hard. Really good preparedness/resilience types rehearse this. It's amazing how much small shit you can overlook and say, "Whoops, we're out. No problem. I'll just run into town to... damnit."

Posted by: torquewrench at November 13, 2012 06:51 PM (ymG7s)

151 141 I agree.

Posted by: NCKate at November 13, 2012 06:51 PM (MsQkt)

152 I really thought we'd be going to DC this coming year. Hubby has never been, and I don't want to go while the tyrant is sitting in the WH. Fuck that asshole. Go anyway. Go to the Washington Monument, to the Lincoln, to the Wall, take him to Arlington National. Tour what makes this country. Tour the physical embodiment and reminders for the ideals that built this country.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 13, 2012 06:51 PM (GEICT)

153

Katya, keep going.

We are intrigued who is whitest and deadest.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at November 13, 2012 06:52 PM (Md8Uo)

154 Welp, I gotta turn in. I still haven't had a decent night's sleep since the election and I had actually promised myself I wouldn't do computery thing at night. So much for that! Have fun folks!

Posted by: Y-not at November 13, 2012 06:52 PM (5H6zj)

155 I'm about to break my dontrespondtothetroll rule: You guys won, why are you still so cranky? Oh, thats right, no more blaming Bush. BC, I'm in the family business too. It got me this hotel room. Shoulda stayed in the Corps.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 13, 2012 06:52 PM (JTnC2)

156 Burnitup, as you can tell I have been looking also. Got a 401k from former employment. Thinking of converting it to a RothIRA. Then take it out of the RothIRA to put in normal savings. Ride things until I know my tax bill. Settle that and then work on the debts.

Plus thinking of selling back to dealership my GT500. Still owe on it. They say they might pay as much as $31k depending on condition. A good special selling point on mine is, I have Carrol Shelby's autograph on it. See what they offer after I clean it all up. Then decide.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 06:52 PM (nByYy)

157 142 GW,

well we did pass it in the middle of the night on Xmas eve over Barky and nanny's objections....

"what the fuck do you mean you have to pass it before I can read it John?"

//Shit Barky choom never said

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 06:52 PM (LRFds)

158 I could spot the trannies, but: 1) I had already read the article; and 2) I have ultra-advanced gaydar known as transdar. I gotta say from the picture I'd never have guessed the one on the right was a guy (it makes a big difference in real life) if there had been no clue ("SPOT THE TRANNY!!!"). More to the point, why would an omnipotent being make a person so miserable (or, frankly, outright gay)?

Posted by: SFGoth at November 13, 2012 06:53 PM (/nqdo)

159 Imagine it when law enforcement goes from delayed response to not even answering the phone. Starring a young Mel Gibson. I saw that movie.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 06:53 PM (QupBk)

160 The F'n Limey's use "Whilst" too!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 10:39 PM

Whilst I may not take umbrage at your contumeliousness, it is a rather curlish utterance, sirrah.

Posted by: otho at November 13, 2012 06:53 PM (yBF/9)

161 Announcing "Intentions" is an accomplishment. Well...Then I'm the most successful man In the World-Fuck Him!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 06:54 PM (uvNSk)

162 Yeah, go see DC now before it gets blowed up or burned down. That was my rationalization for taking my kids there a few years ago.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at November 13, 2012 06:54 PM (Md8Uo)

163 Yeah format fail at 148. Trimegistus, U here bro?

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 13, 2012 06:54 PM (I2LwF)

164 BC, I'm in the family business too. It got me this hotel room. Shoulda stayed in the Corps. What do y'all do?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 13, 2012 06:54 PM (GEICT)

165 Fuck that asshole. Go anyway. Go to the Washington Monument, to the Lincoln, to the Wall, take him to Arlington National. Tour what makes this country. Tour the physical embodiment and reminders for the ideals that built this country.

1. Agreed. Fuck that asshole.

2. Not getting to go to Arlington when I was in DC about six years ago still pisses me the fuck off.

Posted by: Adam at November 13, 2012 06:54 PM (/YJYi)

166 I'm in the Detroit area, so every time you don't buy a new American car, a uaw member dies inside. I'm OK with that. Posted by: shbiumi at November 13, 2012 10:33 PM Yeah, except the (traditionally progressive) Usually Ain't Workin' member keeps his job, regardless. Us (usually conservative) "white-collar" types get two cardboard boxes and thirty minutes to clean out our desks. Don't get me started, I am already more pissed off (by several orders of magnitude) than you can possibly imagine.

Posted by: AltonJackson has done 20+ years in The Stoopid Business at November 13, 2012 06:54 PM (JMmQ9)

167 @160 [Head Explodes]

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 06:54 PM (uvNSk)

168 150 TW,

That's why you find the right town and force yourself to go to church there believer or no....

interlocking skills and security.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 06:55 PM (LRFds)

169 I haven't seen him since much earlier Truman.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 13, 2012 06:55 PM (GEICT)

170 Announcing "Intentions" is an accomplishment. Well...Then I'm the most successful man In the World-Fuck Him! Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 10:54 PM (uvNSk) ----------- But baby...I intended to get you a diamond ring, honest!

Posted by: Husband, with no anniversary gift at November 13, 2012 06:55 PM (IPG9V)

171 Most of the OWSers are white so most of them are going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 06:55 PM (DoZD+)

172 Posted by: Icedog at November 13, 2012 10:50 PM (PTS+l)

Ain't nobody got time for that . . .

Posted by: Peaches at November 13, 2012 06:56 PM (kpCLl)

173 The Choad Warrior

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 06:56 PM (uvNSk)

174 2. Not getting to go to Arlington when I was in DC about six years ago still pisses me the fuck off. I've been twice. It's simultaneously heartbreaking and inspiring.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 13, 2012 06:56 PM (GEICT)

175 @157 Fucking Romney!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 13, 2012 06:56 PM (0fxcV)

176 Nevermind....don't even try to read that crap..... Posted by: Icedog at November 13, 2012 10:51 PM (PTS+l) Maybe if you pasted it from MS Word, instead?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 13, 2012 06:56 PM (X3lox)

177 Don't get me started, I am already more pissed off (by several orders of magnitude) than you can possibly imagine.

I'm just glad that just about everybody appears to be past the "dig a bunker in the backyard and wait for Jesus to come" phase by now.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2012 06:57 PM (7B7jB)

178 torque,
i live 25 miles north of the gulf in ms. land is relatively inexpensive (5-10 per acre) around here. i'm thinking lots of like minded people ... or at least the people i go to church are lol

Posted by: burnitup at November 13, 2012 06:57 PM (Q1Cx8)

179 Jill Kelley tried to stop FBI investigation when she realized she would be entrapped in it. Paula Broadwell played her beautifully.

Posted by: Ronin at November 13, 2012 06:57 PM (AzwZn)

180 Y'all have seen the video, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHaVc5i-Dzs

Posted by: Peaches at November 13, 2012 06:57 PM (kpCLl)

181 Kalneva, fuck TFG, go to DC. The museums are the best, and the cafeteria at NGA is absolutely where you wanna eat. The food trucks are really good, but if you're eating in a tourist trap, NGA is awesome. Pricey, though. While you're in town, the National Museum of the Marine Corps is only a 25 minute drive. And free. I've been twice, and still haven't really seen it all. Also, never left dry-eyed.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 13, 2012 06:57 PM (JTnC2)

182 The Magical Negro and the Semi-Retard are just two of the most well-known ones.
All right! I can smell that Oscar already!

Posted by: president o'bumbles at November 13, 2012 06:57 PM (nkiQM)

183 175 GW,

Thank God the plucky young challenger from the Land of Lincoln is here to fix president Romney's mess...

Fuck you low information voter

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 06:57 PM (LRFds)

184 13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which werenÂ’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan Hmm yes, the world's premier air superiority fight was of little use against the moon worshipers of the Kush.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 06:58 PM (QupBk)

185

So, on this OWS buys debt thing.

Here's the deal though, there buying debt at "pennies on the dollar." I'm not fianancial expert, but typically when you get debt that cheap it's because the current holder is so frustrated with collecting on it they've all but given up.

So all OWS is giving money to bankers that they otherwise wouldn't have gotten. Way to live in the irony guys. (Plus we have a system for this, it's called bankrupcy.)

Posted by: tsrblke at November 13, 2012 06:58 PM (GaqMa)

186

Going solo out in the boondocks is an inivitation to being "defeated in detail".

Someone will always know where you are and find you and take your stuff. Find a town where you can actually allie with your neighbors. Interlocking fire.

The Church thing: spot on. It is still a social and spiritual center for people in some places.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at November 13, 2012 06:58 PM (Md8Uo)

187 BC, yeah, you're right, better to go now before it all goes to hell. I can just see budget cuts letting moss grow all over the Vietnam wall, e.g. Isn't the reflection pool already gone to shit with algae per "green" methods of maintenance?

Posted by: Kalneva at November 13, 2012 06:58 PM (cQmXn)

188

just seemed appropriate..

Â“And the great owners, who must lose their land in an upheaval, the great owners with access to history, with eyes to read history and to know the great fact: when property accumulates in too few hands it is taken away. And that companion fact: when a majority of the people are hungry and cold they will take by force what they need.

And the little screaming fact that sounds through all history: repression works only to strengthen and knit the repressed. The great owners ignored the three cries of history. The land fell into fewer hands, the number of the dispossessed increased, and every effort of the great owners was directed at repression.

The money was spent for arms, for gas to protect the great holdings, and spies were sent to catch the murmuring of revolt so that it might be stamped out. The changing economy was ignored, plans for the change ignored; and only means to destroy revolt were considered, while the causes of revolt went on.Â”

John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath

Posted by: T.Hunter at November 13, 2012 06:58 PM (EZl54)

189 Burnitup, sounds like you are around Wiggins. Is that horse farm that has gotten overgrown still abandoned on Hwy 49?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 06:58 PM (nByYy)

190 I got 12 years out of my 2000 Hyundai Accent, and my 2012 Accent runs fine. Love the warranty. I'd buy American if they would match the warranty.

Posted by: gp at November 13, 2012 06:58 PM (mk9aG)

191 BCochran1981

Posted by: Tex at November 13, 2012 06:59 PM (jvg6T)

192 I'm just glad that just about everybody appears to be past the "dig a bunker in the backyard and wait for Jesus to come" phase by now. Actually, that's exactly where I've ended up.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 06:59 PM (QupBk)

193 You gotta watch the Kraut + Mallet talk about the Republican Party on the Mick Factor.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 06:59 PM (uvNSk)

194 Anyway, Trimegistus had a very long comment earlier about putting together a blackmail squad to hammer the fuck out of the leftist establishment, and he'd mentioned me in it. And I read it and filed it away. And I wanted him to know I take him seriously.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 13, 2012 06:59 PM (I2LwF)

195 Burnitup- if you need cash, you should think about reducing your contributions to your 401K for the time being and put the increase in your paycheck directly in your savings account- have it automatically deducted so you don't even see it in your checking account. You should continue to contribute to your 401K at least up to the level that your company matches- it's free money and your account will grow faster. If you're worried about erosion of the amount you already have in it, pick another fund that may have a lower return, but is less exposed to market risk- a government bond fund, for example. Stay away from target date funds- they're losers.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 13, 2012 06:59 PM (1k4dd)

196 177 QDPSteve,

I've moved on to "rally together and build a place for him to smile on...."

if the GOP leadership inspires any confidence I may move on to punch Davey Ax in the nuts and chop his throat.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 06:59 PM (LRFds)

197
"Us (usually conservative) 'white-collar' types get two cardboard boxes and thirty minutes to clean out our desks."

Not an auto industry anecdote, but aerospace. The day after the election, and I'm not kidding, _the_ day after the election, not even waiting until the close of business, Boeing's defense group announced they were going to lay off a metric fuckton of people.

Their assembly workforce is unionized, and their engineers are unionized. So they are going after the midlevel white collar managerial types. For those folks, first the company is going to roll back to 2010 headcount and then cut another 30% on top of that. Hope they have enough cardboard boxes.

Wonder how many of these people voted for Barky or stayed home?

Posted by: torquewrench at November 13, 2012 07:00 PM (ymG7s)

198 187 BC, yeah, you're right, better to go now before it all goes to hell. I can just see budget cuts letting moss grow all over the Vietnam wall, e.g. Isn't the reflection pool already gone to shit with algae per "green" methods of maintenance? I left the area 6 years ago and haven't really been back. But that wouldn't surprise me at all.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 13, 2012 07:00 PM (GEICT)

199 194 Truman North,

I take it seriously as well but anyone doing so understand the admin would label you a bigger enemy than AQ....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 07:00 PM (LRFds)

200 I INTEND TO GROW A FULL HEAD OF HAIR AND GO TEN WHOLE MINUTES WITHOUT GOING OFF ON A TANGENT, BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: DICK VITALE!!!!!! at November 13, 2012 07:00 PM (9F2c1)

201 Pauly Shore = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 07:01 PM (DoZD+)

202 What's up Tex?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 13, 2012 07:01 PM (GEICT)

203 Anna, Good luck with the 401k and GT500.

Posted by: burnitup at November 13, 2012 07:01 PM (Q1Cx8)

204 127 Anna Puma- I have a huge unrealized capital gain in one stock I own. I'm selling it this week.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 13, 2012 07:02 PM (1k4dd)

205 Ima go watch NCIS, but I will be checking back, so don't be breaking shit, eh?

Posted by: Peaches at November 13, 2012 07:02 PM (kpCLl)

206 "People are going to be pissed, I wonder if the GOP will get the blame for obamacare?" i don't think so...about the first part! sure, people will be pissed, but those people will generally be GOP voters anyway. blue-blooded dem millionaires don't care a whit about subsidising health-care for unproductive folks who vote to keep their preferred progressive politicians in power. and, of course, those unproductive folks will be essentially getting free health care. and they already wait an hour and a half in the ER with a minor cold for treatment they don't intend to pay for, anyway, so it's not like the service shortages will be a huge negative -.-

Posted by: jimi ray at November 13, 2012 07:02 PM (79EF9)

207 .mr. BCochran1981, i am newB at AoSHQ but it is plain that you are a good humored fellow what loves his wife. No problems, lucky wife.

Posted by: NewB at November 13, 2012 07:02 PM (jvg6T)

208 One good thing about TSA Gropers Union;

Any time they decide to strike, people will encourage them to do so and stay off the job indefinitely

Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2012 07:02 PM (wwsoB)

209 192 Toby 928th,

we'll come get ya buddy....

rally in texas.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 07:02 PM (LRFds)

210

Janeane Gerafalo = white = going to Hell

She's white; right?

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 07:02 PM (DoZD+)

211 Thanks NewB

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 13, 2012 07:02 PM (GEICT)

212 I love the way some here talk about cash as if it going to be worth a shit in years to come. You all totally crack me up! LOL

Posted by: navybrat at November 13, 2012 07:03 PM (r1ty1)

213 Hey, neat! My finger is leaking fluid from the beer opening mishap earlier. And the Dick Vitale sock doesn't come close to the annoyingness of that asshole.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 13, 2012 07:03 PM (JTnC2)

214

Soon, we will all be either enemies of the Regime or un-indicted criminals.

That's the plan, and BHO is sticking to it.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at November 13, 2012 07:03 PM (Md8Uo)

215 @210 Just like Barack Obama is White

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 07:03 PM (uvNSk)

216 210
Janeane Gerafalo = white = going to Hell
She's white; right? Posted by: katya

Italian, so, nope.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 13, 2012 07:03 PM (/nqdo)

217

Peaches, yeah sorry about that eyesore....here are just a few of my favorite claimed "accomplishments" by teh won:

10. Limits on lobbyistÂ’s access to the White House

13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems (...and other outdated weapons??)

21. The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out

30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010

34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office

45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters

53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel (my ass!)

67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration

89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform

90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform

Posted by: Icedog at November 13, 2012 07:04 PM (PTS+l)

218 Janeane Gerafalo = white = going to Hell She's white; right? Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 11:02 PM (DoZD+ ----- Downright pasty, if you ask me.

Posted by: Elmer's Glue at November 13, 2012 07:04 PM (IPG9V)

219 rally in texas. Ah, the one exception to my fight-it-out-on-this-line plan. If Texas secedes, I'm going home.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 07:04 PM (QupBk)

220

Posted by: Peaches at November 13, 2012 10:40 PM (kpCLl)

Thanks!!!!!.....Can't wait for the Annual Thanksgiving Recipe Post!...We are going to cook hard, have fun and clink glasses.

Posted by: concrete girl at November 13, 2012 07:04 PM (y2Ojs)

221 why dont the reps use Obamas own words about not raising taxes in a recession?

Posted by: Avi at November 13, 2012 07:04 PM (40anC)

222 213 Navybrat,

Yup I'm grabbing a 30g bonus I had in limbo and taking a hit on an annuity on purpose.

Spike your debt, prepare, and be mobile if need be.

Before 1 jan so much the better.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 07:04 PM (LRFds)

223 in a couple years occupy will be buying debt, and then threatening to occupy the debtors living room until they pay it off.

mark my words.

Posted by: endeavor to persevere at November 13, 2012 07:04 PM (zZJJp)

224 Some music. BOC Veteran of the Psychic Wars
http://youtu.be/uGi-sOTS5zA

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 07:05 PM (nByYy)

225 Thanks, everyone, for affirming our trip to DC. Fuck that JET! I won't let him stop my husband from experiencing that awesomeness. Did anyone ever hear whether the guards at the tomb of the unknown ever had to leave. That was a tear jerker. I'll bet they didn't leave.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 13, 2012 07:05 PM (cQmXn)

226 @212 You think the value of the dollar will increase? What if it ends as the World's Reserve Currency?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 07:05 PM (uvNSk)

227 I'm just glad that just about everybody appears to be past the "dig a bunker in the backyard and wait for Jesus to come" phase by now. Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2012 10:57 PM Digging a bunker is a defensive position. If you're playin' defense, you're losing. If you're losing, you're going to "camp" I am not going to camp. I've been past the "hole up and die" position since sunrise last Wednesday.

Posted by: AltonJackson has done 20+ years in The Stoopid Business at November 13, 2012 07:05 PM (JMmQ9)

228

Obama's words!!

That is certain death to the speaker unless uttered by Obama. Or just ostracism by the idiots on the TV.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at November 13, 2012 07:06 PM (Md8Uo)

229 215 @210 Just like Barack Obama is White Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 11:03 PM (uvNSk) tie goes to the mother

Posted by: Avi at November 13, 2012 07:06 PM (40anC)

230 I mean, I just saw a jar of Skippy peanut butter for 8 bucks at the store.
Try to keep up with that kind of inflation.

Posted by: navybrat at November 13, 2012 07:06 PM (r1ty1)

231 Anna, I live up around Lucedale.

Moonbeam,
I don't need the cash as I have a at least a years worth of expenses in my checking account if I were to lose my job. I'm worried about leaving my money in the market and would like to have physical assets instead of paper. Land, house, silver. I already have gun and 1000s of round of ammo.

Posted by: burnitup at November 13, 2012 07:06 PM (Q1Cx8)

232 227 AJ,

fluid defense of the newly acquired FEBA is a better play.

I aim to invest in my rally point.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 07:07 PM (LRFds)

233 And the Dick Vitale sock doesn't come close to the annoyingness of that asshole.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 13, 2012 11:03 PM (JTnC2)

OH BABY!!!!!! BUT I'VE ANNOUNCED THAT INTENTION BABY!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: DICK VITALE!!!!!! at November 13, 2012 07:07 PM (9F2c1)

234 Thanks Burnitup. Best to move to a no debt position before 1 Jan.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 07:07 PM (nByYy)

235 Alright Horde, I'm the fuck outa Dodge. Try not to break shit. Except for the trolls, those you can trash to your little black heart's content.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 13, 2012 07:07 PM (GEICT)

236 I'm always waiting for Jesus to come back. But I can't afford a bunker right now, though I'm planning to start buying water, beans and powdered eggs. I'm waiting for the Mayan calendar to end. But I think they're wrong. So I'm back to plan B.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 07:07 PM (DoZD+)

237 I'm absolutely thrilled to tell you my Romney/Ryan yardsigns arrived today in the mail. I shit you not.

Posted by: tcn at November 13, 2012 07:08 PM (VLG62)

238 "Well it's their money and they're free to give it away this way if they want. This may help some people but I suspect OWS will eventually learn what a moral hazard is and/or run out of money." Isn't that lovely, forgive student debt. Start them out in their adult life to believe that being a freeloader is a good thing.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 07:08 PM (jLiVY)

239 230 navybrat,

Hey now food ain;t inflation....

ask Obarka there is no inflation....

I can't wait until ObamaFo lady pistol whips piss matthews for her foodtsamps not going so far.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 07:08 PM (LRFds)

240 Kalneva, nope, the Old Guard stood thier posts, just like always. Everyone else in the DC area ran for the hills, they kept doing what they do. You must watch the changing of the guard there. I swear you will never forget it,

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 13, 2012 07:08 PM (JTnC2)

241 But I can't afford a bunker right now Tell your neighbors it's a root cellar and start digging.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 07:08 PM (QupBk)

242 Who said it was the omnipotent being that did it?

Posted by: harleycowb at November 13, 2012 07:09 PM (wSTfB)

243 tie goes to the mother

Posted by: Avi at November 13, 2012 11:06 PM (40anC)

But she announced her intention to go black.

Posted by: tcn at November 13, 2012 07:09 PM (VLG62)

244 Sleep tight, 'rons, going in to have my spirits uplifted, watching the Sons exact justice! Thanks for the respite, as usual. It's nice to know there will be good people in the gulags with me!

Posted by: Kalneva at November 13, 2012 07:09 PM (cQmXn)

245 Lucedale is pretty nice and far off the beaten path. Remember last year there was a pretty big tract of land with house for sale near McLain right on 98. Is it still listed?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 07:10 PM (nByYy)

246 Ah, the one exception to my fight-it-out-on-this-line plan. If Texas secedes, I'm going home. Posted by: toby928Â© for TB at November 13, 2012 11:04 PM You and me, brother.

Posted by: AltonJackson has done 20+ years in The Stoopid Business at November 13, 2012 07:10 PM (JMmQ9)

247 "I'm waiting for the Mayan calendar to end. But I think they're wrong.So I'm back to plan B." ... ... ...

Posted by: jimi ray at November 13, 2012 07:10 PM (79EF9)

248 If this all burns down what is of value? skills guns, ammo friends and neighbors and family camping equipment(also known as prepper supplies) whiskey

Posted by: jake in ID at November 13, 2012 07:10 PM (2CiZb)

249 Cya BCochran. Need to scoot also. Have fun.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 07:11 PM (nByYy)

250 Best to move to a no debt position before 1 Jan. Why for? Why not pay off debt (after Jan 1) with inflated dollars? i.e. less buying power anyway? Run up debt now buying survival related goods?

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 07:11 PM (gh+mp)

251 If this all burns down what is of value? Whiskey, whores, and a woman who can cook.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 07:12 PM (QupBk)

252 are there any message boards where you folks tend to meet to talk in threads about issues? There are conversations I would love to have, but this format makes it impossible to have a coherent conversation about issues.

Posted by: sdavis at November 13, 2012 07:12 PM (njVMI)

253 Bet we could talk OWS to deliberately buy up Republican debt and have it forgiven. Kind of as a "we'll show you" type of pathetic, dormweed flipoff. Then we'd profit. We should do this. Feed off the hippies' politics. Their passion. Their stupidity... We could become more powerful than ever. / vader

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 13, 2012 07:12 PM (JVGuP)

254 Dang, just entered escrow on a vacation home... but plan on keeping it a long time & passing it on to our kids. Hopefully by then Obamacare will be a distant memory and the country will have come to its senses. Perhaps overly optimistic, but waddayagonnado?

Posted by: Average Guy at November 13, 2012 07:12 PM (SSUZq)

255 Adriane, I did just contradict myself didn't I?

I should have said, move out of the stocks and such before the tax hikes that come on 1 Jan. Sorry about that.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 07:12 PM (nByYy)

256
Whiskey, whores, and a woman who can cook.

Posted by: toby928Â© for TB at November 13, 2012 11:12 PM (QupBk)

So, a lovely woman from Tennessee who puts out and can whip up breakfast. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

Posted by: tcn at November 13, 2012 07:13 PM (VLG62)

257 How much debt can OWS buy? Their trust funds are eventually going to run out. Someone should keep track of who they are giving money to to see if they fall off the wagon again.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 13, 2012 07:13 PM (NzBQO)

258 Night BC, night Kalneva. Kalneva, if you check in tomorrow and havent seen this: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c59_1320722129

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 13, 2012 07:13 PM (JTnC2)

259

Say, what? The OWSies are going into the debt business? Oh yeah, having bolshevik bombthrowers holding your marker is gonna end well. What could go wrong?

Posted by: otho at November 13, 2012 07:13 PM (yBF/9)

260 There are conversations I would love to have, but this format makes it impossible to have a coherent conversation about issues.

Posted by: sdavis at November 13, 2012 11:12 PM (njVMI)

Bullshit. And no, you cannot enter the forbidden zone without permission.

Now, what did you want to discuss?

Posted by: tcn at November 13, 2012 07:14 PM (VLG62)

261 Think on this for a moment: The more of a thing there is, the less it is worth, right? Simple economics.

Bernanke is printing $85 Billion a month and giving it away to the banks.

Now, please tell me how this is a good thing for the dollar?

It isn't.

Posted by: navybrat at November 13, 2012 07:14 PM (r1ty1)

262 T'anks Anna, I know a lot less about economics than I'd like to at the moment. And I know too much history to sleep well ... i.e. Great Leap forward: 22 million dead at the hands of the ruling party ..

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 07:15 PM (gh+mp)

263 The ONT is not for serious discussion. It's for end-of-day rants, and thinly disguised sexual innuendo.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 07:15 PM (QupBk)

264 @252 Debate Issues? Like What? Whiskey or Beer? Vanilla or Chocolate?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 07:15 PM (uvNSk)

265 "Isn't that lovely, forgive student debt. Start them out in their adult life to believe that being a freeloader is a good thing." in defence of student debt forgiveness, 17-year-olds aren't really equipped with faculties of rationality sufficient to make decisions in their best interest on questions like choosing a college major that will define the earning potential for the rest of their adult lives. charging someone $35 000 a year to get a sociology degree is a grade-A scam; the amount of tuition inflation that has been heartily embraced by institutions of higher learning, private and public, in this country in recent years is absolutely unconscionable. i'm not for student debt forgiveness...i don't really think i am, because i worked hard to pay all mine off before coming back for my phd o.o...but i'm certainly not for the obscene tuition costs that are subsidising professors' mansions and six-figure salaries for mid-level university adminitration types. @.@

Posted by: jimi ray at November 13, 2012 07:16 PM (79EF9)

266 We were supposed to disguise it? Damn.

Posted by: tcn at November 13, 2012 07:16 PM (VLG62)

267 Mae West makes the thread worth it. If Romney had quietly bought up a million worth of leveraged old debt and forgave it before the election, prolly coulda got half the FSA to vote for him. There is a moral hazard there, probably at least half of the debtors would just run up more. But it would have been a hell of a move. Unfortunately, they're right, the price will go up now, which will not only undercut the future of that "charity game," but will ass-rape people who need to pay off their own old debts and were hoping to do it at bargain rates. Unintended consequences are a stone cold bitch. The way to do that game is with a million dollars, not 500. It's like they went for the least possible benefit to cause the most possible damage (what am I saying, of course that's what they did).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 07:16 PM (bxiXv)

268 Bullshit. And no, you cannot enter the forbidden zone without permission. Now, what did you want to discuss? Forbidden zones.

Posted by: sdavis at November 13, 2012 07:16 PM (njVMI)

269 Whiskey or Beer?
Vanilla or Chocolate?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 11:15 PM (uvNSk)

Boxers or briefs.

And don't forget--longbows or crossbows.....

Posted by: tcn at November 13, 2012 07:16 PM (VLG62)

270 "If this all burns down what is of value?
skills
guns, ammo
friends and neighbors and family
camping equipment(also known as prepper supplies)
whiskey"

Medical supplies.
Spare parts.
Fuel.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 13, 2012 07:17 PM (ymG7s)

271 New motto for life: Barry's taxes suck, then you die.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 13, 2012 07:17 PM (PALjS)

272 Is there a Smoking Jacket for potheads?

Posted by: Craig Poe at November 13, 2012 07:17 PM (BVkEs)

273

Posted by: Captain Whitebread getting all Adam Savage in your face at November 13, 2012 10:43 PM (5J54Q)

I'm late to the party, but 'lil shitties' are one of my all time favorite appetizers. We've never had a name for them either. Yum.

Posted by: In Exile at November 13, 2012 07:17 PM (0401c)

274 The thing about "leverage debt" is the interest bomb...of course bankruptcy will be the national sport. And it's voluntary coma time...

Posted by: sven10077 at November 13, 2012 07:17 PM (LRFds)

275 Caltrops

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 07:17 PM (QupBk)

276 thinly disguised sexual innuendo.

Yeah thinly disguised. Like this NSFW link.

http://tinyurl.com/bc2gscs

Posted by: Adam at November 13, 2012 07:18 PM (/YJYi)

277 @254

possession = 9/10 of the law.

99.93 % post - fall of central government.

Posted by: T.Hunter at November 13, 2012 07:18 PM (EZl54)

278 @269 LongBows Mother F'er

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 07:18 PM (uvNSk)

279 263 The ONT is not for serious discussion. It's for end-of-day rants, and thinly disguised sexual innuendo.

TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO THE HOOP, BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: DICK VITALE!!!!!! at November 13, 2012 07:18 PM (9F2c1)

280 Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 11:16 PM (bxiXv) Congrats on the word count ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 07:18 PM (gh+mp)

281 I've been immersed in the Petraeus matter for the last couple hours, and have concluded that 1) there was an affair; but 2) the affair is the least of the problems.

It reads like an Axelrod frame-up.

Further, I have reached a point of such utter cynicism about every woman anywhere near this that I need to be talked down by fellow members of my sex.

Posted by: Dianna at November 13, 2012 07:19 PM (mKMj1)

282 Now, what did you want to discuss? Forbidden zones. Posted by: sdavis at November 13, 2012 11:16 PM (njVMI) post your shit, if it is interesting it will go, if not, it will die in the vine be BOLD!

Posted by: jake in ID at November 13, 2012 07:19 PM (2CiZb)

283 Innuendo? Is she that type of girl?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 13, 2012 07:19 PM (nkiQM)

284 "Is there a Smoking Jacket for potheads?" Yes....the Invisibility Cloak

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 07:19 PM (uvNSk)

285 Pushup or minimizer?

Stockings or Thigh-highs?

Posted by: tcn at November 13, 2012 07:19 PM (VLG62)

286 Is there a Smoking Jacket for potheads?
A Che t-shirt.

Posted by: harleycowb at November 13, 2012 07:20 PM (wSTfB)

287 i'm not for student debt forgiveness...i don't really think i am, because i worked hard to pay all mine off before coming back for my phd o.o...but i'm certainly not for the obscene tuition costs that are subsidising professors' mansions and six-figure salaries for mid-level university adminitration types. @.@

Posted by: jimi ray at November 13, 2012 11:16 PM (79EF9)

I keep waiting for students to turn on their alma maters why they haven't yet I have no idea. They have blamed everyone under the sun except their universities.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 13, 2012 07:20 PM (NzBQO)

288 Congrats on the word count ... Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 11:18 PM (gh+mp)

Thanks! Was working on it now...

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 07:20 PM (bxiXv)

289 Night all. Have fun, and regards to the late shift.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 13, 2012 07:20 PM (JTnC2)

290 Dianna, by ensnaring Petraeus and Allen in this sex scandal, it gives Obama an out over the failure of his policy on Afghanistan. The policy could not succeed because the ISAF commanders were too busy bonking to lead. So Obama is absolved.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 07:21 PM (nByYy)

291 Tampons or Pads?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 07:21 PM (uvNSk)

292 Further, I have reached a point of such utter cynicism about every woman anywhere near this that I need to be talked down by fellow members of my sex.

Posted by: Dianna at November 13, 2012 11:19 PM (mKMj1)

The honey-trap is the oldest trick in spy-dom. It just means that some slut puts out for money, but collects from somebody other than the mark. I wouldn't worry about women everywhere, just those who think they can make the world run with a mattress on their backs.

Posted by: tcn at November 13, 2012 07:21 PM (VLG62)

293 "If this all burns down what is of value? skills guns, ammo friends and neighbors and family camping equipment(also known as prepper supplies) whiskey" Medical supplies. Spare parts. Fuel. Posted by: torquewrench at November 13, 2012 11:17 PM (ymG7s) Cigarettes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 13, 2012 07:22 PM (X3lox)

294 Sandals or flip-flops?

Posted by: Craig Poe at November 13, 2012 07:22 PM (BVkEs)

295 Recurve

Vanilla

no bra - Baby. Doll. Nightie.

what did I win?

Posted by: T.Hunter at November 13, 2012 07:22 PM (EZl54)

296 Wind or Solar?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 07:23 PM (uvNSk)

297 Propane or natural gas?

Pantyhose or garter belt?

Posted by: tcn at November 13, 2012 07:23 PM (VLG62)

298 Two words: volume of fire

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 07:24 PM (QupBk)

299 Before I go, Adam, thank you. You are gentleman and a scholar what posts boobeh pictures. *hand* *sa-LUTE*

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 13, 2012 07:24 PM (JTnC2)

300 Joke or Riddle?

Posted by: Craig Poe at November 13, 2012 07:24 PM (BVkEs)

301 Yogart Pump or Custard Gun?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 07:24 PM (uvNSk)

302 4WD

or

AWD?

Posted by: T.Hunter at November 13, 2012 07:24 PM (EZl54)

303 just those who think they can make the world run with a mattress on their backs. Posted by: tcn at November 13, 2012 11:21 PM (VLG62) I don't know sex seems like a usefull tool to motivate/demotivate men depending on the desired outcome

Posted by: jake in ID at November 13, 2012 07:24 PM (2CiZb)

304 Pun

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 07:24 PM (QupBk)

305 #290 - Anna Puma, That is part of what I'm thinking, yes. But the women are all reading as tools in this.

I have been a damned fool more than a few times for love, but I've never sold sex, and I've never used sex to manipulate a man. I'm doing what my guy calls "the flamenco of utter disgust" about the women in this tale.

Especially since my read is that Broadhead's ID was placed in Rock Creek Park (and the media encouraged to raise a hue and cry over it) as a naked threat to Patraeus, who evidently cares about the woman.

Posted by: Dianna at November 13, 2012 07:24 PM (mKMj1)

306 "Dianna, by ensnaring Petraeus and Allen in this sex scandal, it gives Obama an out" ...rii~iight. obama personally oversaw an operation to have a tarty biographer sex up his cia director all so he could say "let me be clear: afghanistan is not my fault". ~.~ what was that someone was saying about this place becoming lgf?

Posted by: jimi ray at November 13, 2012 07:25 PM (79EF9)

307 Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane

I wonder what the dumbfuck who wrote that thinks "phasing out" means.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 07:25 PM (tQgrl)

308 Liberals remind me of a story about the British in Africa. They gathered the tribesmen around a tree. Pulled out a chainsaw and cut it down. The tribesmen started laughing. The British ask them why they were laughing. Couldn't they see how powerful the saw was by the ease with which it cut down the tree? The tribesmen answered. You idiots. You cut down the only shade tree for a hundred miles.

Posted by: harleycowb at November 13, 2012 07:25 PM (wSTfB)

309 I have been in a foul mood since the election and am prepared to pretty much rip into anyone. Today my brother made the mistake of suggesting that the Catholic Church should consider ordaining women. I told him I had no interest in it because it is being pushed by womyn who promote womyn's issues and like to view themselves as perpetual victims. Identity politics bullshit is a bigger problem than the priest shortage. I was on quite a tear and I feel really good about it. Unfortunately, he's probably going to warn his union teacher wife to be careful what she says around me. = dull Thanksgiving.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 07:26 PM (jLiVY)

310 what was that someone was saying about this place becoming lgf? Posted by: jimi ray

Who were you, then?

Posted by: Dianna at November 13, 2012 07:26 PM (mKMj1)

311 Kalneva, if you check in tomorrow and havent seen this:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c59_1320722129

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 13, 2012 11:13 PM (JTnC2)

DC, checked in before sitting, as usual, to make sure I don't miss anything... Holy crap! My spine is still shivering! I won't miss the Changing of the Guard, when we go! Thanks! This is so special, and I've seen lots of videos of the Guard, most recently the one during the hurricane. WhoTF would be guffawing and yucking it up at this place? Our society is so fucked up. That's what has me so depressed. I know everyone else here, too, same thing. God help us all. Thanks again for sharing. Will really help me sleep tonight; I haven't been able to sleep very well this past week.

Posted by: kalneva at November 13, 2012 07:26 PM (cQmXn)

312 jimi ray

or

non-coprophage?

Posted by: T.Hunter at November 13, 2012 07:27 PM (EZl54)

313 just those who think they can make the world run with a mattress on their backs.

To be fair, Paula Broadwell might not have ever had that mattress on her back. She looks more the "Lilith" type, IYKWIM.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 13, 2012 07:27 PM (QTHTd)

314 not too hard to believe that *G*A*S*H* got 100% of the vote.

Posted by: laughing at neck braces at November 13, 2012 07:27 PM (nVqtU)

315 270 "If this all burns down what is of value?
skills
guns, ammo
friends and neighbors and family
camping equipment(also known as prepper supplies)
whiskey"
Medical supplies.
Spare parts.
Fuel
Posted by: torquewrench at November 13, 2012 11:17 PM (ymG7s)

Anyone think Nickels and wheat pennies will be used as currency? old silver coins? etc. seen some people claiming this, but I haven't really done anything about obtaining any....

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 13, 2012 07:28 PM (PALjS)

316 "299 Before I go, Adam, thank you. You are gentleman and a scholar what posts boobeh pictures. *hand* *sa-LUTE*" That is NOT an image I needed.

Posted by: sdavis at November 13, 2012 07:28 PM (njVMI)

317 @309 Fuck That! Press her hard right in the middle of dinner and expose her for the idiot she is. That's what I'm doing! If the Pumpkin Pie doesn't end up in the Fan at some point I will consider it a failure. Fuck'Em All!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 07:29 PM (uvNSk)

318 "Well I've been very happy with my Jeep but when I eventually replace it I'm going foreign." A lot of those "foreign" car companies have factories in the U.S. If it hadn't been for the UAW at least some of them would have been in Michigan. Michigan had everything for auto manufacturing, transportation, engineers, engineering colleges, experienced auto workers, management, the whole works. We lost every chance to get that manufacturing because of the UAW. And many in the UAW were pretty blunt about the fact that they didn't want factories in Michigan unless they were union.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 07:29 PM (jLiVY)

319 Serious news. Steve Den Beste has had a stroke (via Instapundit)...

My brotheri s loaning me a laptop which I can use on the hospital's wifi.

Looks like Thursday morning, I'll be transferring to a rehab place where I'm probably going to be staying for a week. I'm not looking forward to it but I'm also not thrilled about being profoundly crippled for the rest of my life, either.

I don't know if I'll have wifi access at the rehab.

In the meantime, my left hand is useless and I'm typing this with one finger.

I thank you all for your good wishes, and I'll update when i can and when there' something to say.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at November 13, 2012 03:27 PM (xGt2P)

Posted by: andycanuck at November 13, 2012 07:30 PM (nkiQM)

320

"If this all burns down what is of value?

Duct tape

WD 40

Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffitti

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 13, 2012 07:30 PM (8cOY0)

321 Dianna at November 13, 2012 11:26 PM (mKMj1) The bicycle seat ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 07:30 PM (gh+mp)

322 Oh fuck it. I'm tired. Talk tomorrow.

Posted by: mpfs at November 13, 2012 07:31 PM (Mkhiu)

323 Good evening. A gift for the Morons, a GREAT recipe for caldo de res (Mexican beef shank stew). http://www.yummly.com/recipe/external/Caldo-De-Res-_mexican-Beef-Soup_-Allrecipes

Posted by: Robert at November 13, 2012 07:31 PM (LUnTP)

324 Nickels are worth close to face value. 1981 and older pennies are worth more then face value.

Posted by: Butters at November 13, 2012 07:31 PM (NIZHJ)

325 The bicycle seat ... Posted by: Adriane

*Snicker*

Probably!

Posted by: Dianna at November 13, 2012 07:32 PM (mKMj1)

326 "I remember at TSA's founding when they swore that the it would never be unionized. Well they lied like mother-fucking liars." So now there are worker classifications for hand raping, watching nude scans, and another for stealing from baggage. On the upside, the guy who steals from your baggage can't be sent to hand rape you because it's "out of his classification". I you make a complaint about a TSA agent sticking his hand too far in your butt crack, he'll file a grievance against you with his union steward.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 07:33 PM (jLiVY)

327 Tosses beef shank in pot ... consults recipe ... *swats* Robert with ladle ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 07:33 PM (gh+mp)

328 pork loin or brisket?

Posted by: AltonJackson has done 20+ years in The Stoopid Business at November 13, 2012 07:34 PM (JMmQ9)

329 I need a succinct way of explaining the then/than problem.

I know it when I see it. But the rhyme or pithy explanation defeats me.

Posted by: Dianna at November 13, 2012 07:34 PM (mKMj1)

330 Paula or Jill?

Posted by: Craig Poe at November 13, 2012 07:34 PM (BVkEs)

331 I'm planning on driving eight hours each way next month rather than submit to the TSA. Sucks, but there it is.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 07:34 PM (QupBk)

332 Just for the heck of it - Foamy the Squirrel about television.
http://youtu.be/o3e8k_NCIts

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 07:35 PM (nByYy)

333 Tosses beef shank in pot ... consults recipe ... *swats* Robert with ladle ... Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 11:33 PM (gh+mp) *NABS Adriane, ties her to stove* *Nibbles on chopped carrots*

Posted by: Robert at November 13, 2012 07:35 PM (LUnTP)

334

Kate Upton or Christina Hendricks?

And with that, I'm off to the arms of Morpheus. Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 13, 2012 07:36 PM (lOmbq)

335 331 I'm planning on driving eight hours each way next month rather than submit to the TSA. Sucks, but there it is. Posted by: toby928Â© for TB at November 13, 2012 11:34 PM (QupBk) In May I drove 15 hours each way to avoid the TSA and American Airlines.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at November 13, 2012 07:36 PM (w0yng)

336 After 20 years of service, then you get your pension. It doesn't matter if you have worked here longer than anyone else...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 07:37 PM (gh+mp)

337 Then again, there are folks out there like jimiray who consider TSA to be their entire social life.

Posted by: tcn at November 13, 2012 07:37 PM (VLG62)

338 "Than" is for comparisons.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 07:38 PM (tQgrl)

339 ::: Pork Apricot and Pistachio Stuffing. This was such a HUGE hit at our last Turkey Day that it was scarfed up before everything else. I found it easy to make and was amazed that everyone spoke all night about the stuffing and hardly a word about the massive Turkey....anywho I enjoyed it so much myself I made more after everyone left to go back to their cabin

http://www.squidoo.com/gordon-ramsay-ultimate-christmas-recipes#module141697991

Posted by: Jimmy at November 13, 2012 07:38 PM (Gk5QE)

340 *NABS Adriane, ties her to stove* *Nibbles on chopped carrots* Normally, I won't be worried, but there is that Tom Petty video that I'm sure you've seen ... the one with the cake ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 07:39 PM (gh+mp)

341 331 I'm planning on driving eight hours each way next month rather than submit to the TSA. Sucks, but there it is. Posted by: toby928Â© for TB at November 13, 2012 11:34 PM (QupBk) Been there, done that.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 07:39 PM (bxiXv)

342 Fucknuts is going to Russia. Maybe they will keep him.

Posted by: Butters at November 13, 2012 07:39 PM (NIZHJ)

343 ... the one with the cake ... Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 11:39 PM (gh+mp) Delicious cake...Must eat it...

Posted by: Robert at November 13, 2012 07:40 PM (LUnTP)

344 well Hell, so I lost track of the conversation already. (I blame the beer) So, someone asked me what I wanted to talk about: 1) the 'Let it burn' attitude (fuck you people, this country is worth fighting for to the last breath). 2) The propensity for conservatives to mirror liberals by sneering at the electorate (they are soooooooooooooo stupid!) and finally, I just want to have a cohesive discussion about issues we face where I don't have to chase the latest post by a blogger and/or search through 500+ replies to see if anyone has responded to a post I made. Maybe this isn't a popular request, and if not then nevermind. But jeez, Ace should be able to set up a forum without too much trouble. If he needs help, there has to be a moron/ette here who can help him out. Look, I love the vibrant community here, I just want to be able to have a cohesive discussion about some of this stuff without feeling like a schizophrenic.

Posted by: sdavis at November 13, 2012 07:41 PM (njVMI)

345 Fucknuts is going to Russia. Maybe they will keep him. Posted by: Butters at November 13, 2012 11:39 PM (NIZHJ) Or mistake him for a Polish President ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 13, 2012 07:41 PM (X3lox)

346 Delicious cake...Must eat it... WALKIES B4 CAKE!!!! there. done my good deed for the day....

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 07:41 PM (gh+mp)

347 336 After 20 years of service, then you get your pension. It doesn't matter if you have worked here longer than anyone else... Posted by: Adriane

Yes, but I keep trying to explain that "The first principle is that the principal wants to be your pal" and no one gets it. I somehow don't think your very fine example is going to help, either. It's not that any of these little things are so very hard, it's that people don't seem to have had them pounded into their heads when they were young, and it's probably too late (and too irritating) now. But it does make communication clearer, truly, it does.

Posted by: Dianna at November 13, 2012 07:42 PM (mKMj1)

348 Die Antewoord: Enter the Ninja http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cegdR0GiJl4

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 13, 2012 07:42 PM (QupBk)

349 David Axelrod = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 07:43 PM (DoZD+)

350 "You must watch the changing of the guard there. I swear you will never forget it, Posted by: DC " There are some really good youtubes of the guards yelling at people for talking during the ceremony. And, yeah, they're quite assertive. I love it. Imbeciles who don't know enough to keep their mouths shut during something like that need to be put in their place.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 07:43 PM (jLiVY)

351 WALKIES B4 CAKE!!!! there. done my good deed for the day.... Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 11:41 PM (gh+mp) I didn't walk for two nights. I really should. Just as soon as dinner finally settles.

Posted by: Robert at November 13, 2012 07:43 PM (LUnTP)

352 Anne Hathaway = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 07:43 PM (DoZD+)

353 342 Fucknuts is going to Russia. Maybe they will keep him.
Posted by: Butters

Too much to hope. They're going to give him his assignment, paddle his rear, and send him back.

It's just too much to bear.

Posted by: Dianna at November 13, 2012 07:44 PM (mKMj1)

354 Look, I love the vibrant community here, I just want to be able to have a cohesive discussion about some of this stuff without feeling like a schizophrenic. ------------ Come for the pudding. Stay for the developing mental disorders.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread getting all Adam Savage in your face at November 13, 2012 07:44 PM (5J54Q)

355 Bono = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 07:45 PM (DoZD+)

356 Dianna at November 13, 2012 11:42 PM (mKMj1) Shorter version: Compare with than. Tell time with then. Communication separates us from the animals, and even then, not so much ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 07:45 PM (gh+mp)

357 Fucknuts is going to Russia.

And he has more flexibility now.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 07:45 PM (tQgrl)

358 If you go to the changing of the guard at Arlington Cemetery, be sure to show up 5-10 minutes before the hour or half hour to get a good spot. It's on the half hour during the summer and the hour during the off-season. That being said, time to call it a day. Good night, everyone!

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at November 13, 2012 07:45 PM (w0yng)

359 Or mistake him for a Polish President ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 13, 2012 11:41 PM (X3lox)

And make Joe Biden the President? Don't I have the rambling old man demographic covered enough already?

Posted by: DICK VITALE!!!!!! at November 13, 2012 07:46 PM (9F2c1)

360 *Snaps fingers* NOW I know what that Mae West photo resembles! http://tinyurl.com/d6wvqs5 Be cool if QR's band symbol was an impressionistic version of that Mae West photo.

Posted by: Robert at November 13, 2012 07:46 PM (LUnTP)

361 Steven Spielberg = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 07:47 PM (DoZD+)

362 So Hope Solo was engaged. To former football Jerramy Stevens. And he assaulted her a day before her wedding, they had only been dating for two months.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 13, 2012 07:47 PM (NzBQO)

363 Communication separates us from the animals, and even then, not so much ... Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 11:45 PM (gh+mp) Go potty! *Hikes leg*

Posted by: Robert at November 13, 2012 07:47 PM (LUnTP)

364 "250 Best to move to a no debt position before 1 Jan." I'm already no debt. That's why I can handle the skyrocketing of my health insurance premiums. Now I'm going to laugh my ass off at any Obama voters who have to live with the consequences of the piece of shit bill. I feel bad for people who voted repub. But the Obama voters, to hell with them. And I'm pretty sure some are going to watch their employer paid for insurance go the wayside. And those who pay their own are going to pay through the teeth. My sister sells in insurance and she said it should go up for many after January. Mine already has.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 07:47 PM (jLiVY)

365 Cigarettes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 13, 2012 11:22 PM (X3lox)

Tobacco seeds!

Distilling equipment!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 13, 2012 07:48 PM (Cnqmv)

366 I didn't walk for two nights. I really should. We - the hubby and I and the friend and the step son - have been busy with scraping up the paint in prep for the floor painting. The floor is too pigmented for the acid / stain we originally had planned and it cost too much right now to rent the floor zapper jc sent the link too. After the JEF leaves office - provided we have been Great Leap Forwarded - we'll revisit the floors.

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 07:49 PM (gh+mp)

367 But jeez, Ace should be able to set up a forum without too much trouble. If he needs help, there has to be a moron/ette here who can help him out.

You're new here, aren't you?

Posted by: KM's anal fissure at November 13, 2012 07:49 PM (9XVgh)

368 Whew, epic sock fail.

Posted by: esch at November 13, 2012 07:51 PM (9XVgh)

369 I just shoved $50k from my savings (I was hoping to pick up a 5 acre parcel next to me when the owner moved but screw it, I'm worried about inflation now) onto my mortgage. Now my house will be free and clear in less than three years.

Do I regret not letting OWS do it first? Screw that, I don't want those stinking hippie freaks anywhere near my house. I will shoot them through the lungs if they come within 500 yards. But thanks for trying to alleviate the effects of Obama, assholes.

And choke to death on your own blood. Nothing personal, but pick up everyone else's debt load and die, fuckers.

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at November 13, 2012 07:51 PM (ocxyf)

370 352 Anne Hathaway = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 11:43 PM (DoZD+)

Squeekhole =brown= not going to hell

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 13, 2012 07:52 PM (Ohhk6)

371 "in defence of student debt forgiveness, 17-year-olds aren't really equipped with faculties of rationality sufficient to make decisions in their best interest" Bullshit. I was. It's how you are raised. I was raised by people who grew up during the depression. These kids make dumb decisions, like spending a fortune getting a degree in art history? Are they feeble minded? Where the hell are their parents?

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 07:52 PM (jLiVY)

372 After the JEF leaves office - provided we have been Great Leap Forwarded - we'll revisit the floors. Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 11:49 PM (gh+mp) You need help? I work cheap.

Posted by: Some dude what hangs out in the Home Depot parking lot every morning at November 13, 2012 07:54 PM (LUnTP)

373 Alec Baldwin = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 07:54 PM (DoZD+)

374 "in defence of student debt forgiveness, 17-year-olds aren't really equipped with faculties of rationality sufficient to make decisions in their best interest" And as far as I know, 17 year olds can't enter into a contract, such as a loan, without some sort of permission from the parents. Again, we've given up on personal responsibility.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 07:54 PM (jLiVY)

375 Robert at November 13, 2012 11:47 PM (LUnTP) Well yeah ... but you can ask for toilet paper ... them's can't ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 07:55 PM (gh+mp)

376 Will Farrell = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 07:56 PM (DoZD+)

377 some dude We prolly should of!!! The stepson was threatening to take phone video and put it up on youtube until we mastered the art of using a floor buffer ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 07:56 PM (gh+mp)

378 ell yeah ... but you can ask for toilet paper ... them's can't ... Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 11:55 PM (gh+mp) I can wipe my own ass! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s5DIhK0jzg

Posted by: Some dude what hangs out in the Home Depot parking lot every morning at November 13, 2012 07:57 PM (LUnTP)

379 katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 11:56 PM (DoZD+) OK, now that one I can't really argue with ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 07:57 PM (gh+mp)

380 Roseanne Barr = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 07:58 PM (DoZD+)

381 I keep waiting for students to turn on their alma maters why they haven't yet I have no idea. They have blamed everyone under the sun except their universities.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 13, 2012 11:20 PM (NzBQO)

Turning on the people that introduced them to Noam and Zinn? The most "uncorporate" place in the world?

Will never happen. Their college campus is their Mecca and Medina.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 13, 2012 08:01 PM (Ohhk6)

382 http://pinterest.com/pin/226446687484645947/

Posted by: bill-o at November 13, 2012 08:02 PM (AWwDY)

383 Walkies and bed.

Good night, all!

Posted by: Dianna at November 13, 2012 08:04 PM (mKMj1)

384

Ashley Judd = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 08:05 PM (DoZD+)

385

Haven't been here for a few days. I'm in a rural area very close to the border and enjoying the isolation. The road that I'm on dead ends at the border and once or twice a week a silver car races down it and then tears back up and disappears. Probably collecting what was thrown over the fence.

Still taking the election hard, and don't see a heck of a lot in the future that is bright. Financially I think we're screwed.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 13, 2012 08:06 PM (1Jxa1)

386 "Then again, there are folks out there like jimiray who consider TSA to be their entire social life. Posted by: tcn" Now, now, if that's the only way he can get some, don't laugh at him.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 08:06 PM (jLiVY)

387 Sheryl Crow = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 08:06 PM (DoZD+)

388 Mountain time zone gives a different perspective on the ONT!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 13, 2012 08:09 PM (1Jxa1)

389 David Axelrod = white = going to Hell __________________ Squeek hole kisser=brown lips= Saved!

Posted by: New Black Panthers! at November 13, 2012 08:09 PM (r2PLg)

390 I just want to be able to have a cohesive discussion about some of this stuff without feeling like a schizophrenic.
You talkin' to us? You talkin' to us? You talkin' to us? Then who the hell else are you talking... you talking to us? Well we're the only ones here. Who the fuck do you think you're talking to? Oh yeah? OK.

BTW, nice Mohawk. Are you 1/32 Mohawk?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 13, 2012 08:09 PM (nkiQM)

391 350 There are some really good youtubes of the guards yelling at people for talking during the ceremony. And, yeah, they're quite assertive. I love it. Imbeciles who don't know enough to keep their mouths shut during something like that need to be put in their place. I'll bet that's probably a more recent phenomenon. As I recall, people weren't so much in love with the sound of their own voices in decades past. I did see the ceremony when I was a little kid, but that was a long time ago and my memory is a bit hazy.

Posted by: rickl at November 13, 2012 08:10 PM (sdi6R)

392 As long as it's not an ARM, having mortgage debt isn't necessarily the worst thing when massive inflation is likely coming down the pike. Just a thought.

Posted by: Barky O'Drama at November 13, 2012 08:10 PM (pkkxZ)

393 Good night, Dianna! I should go walk, too. I'm feeling better tonight and...well, cause I need to. They ain't kidding when they say those last few pounds are the hardest. Jeez... Good night, Adriane! Good night, ONT! Use that recipe I left well. It is *most* delicious and undoubtedly Miss Moochelle and Mayor Bloomie are likely seeking to have it banned.

Posted by: Robert at November 13, 2012 08:12 PM (LUnTP)

394 Inflation favors the debtor, as long as it is fixed interest rate. You're paying back the debt with worthless dollars. I cannot see paying back 3-4% money right now. Just keep debt load in check.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 13, 2012 08:12 PM (1Jxa1)

395

the then/than problem

Then=sequential Than= choice

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 13, 2012 08:13 PM (+9AX9)

396 Good Robert - With Great Recipes comes Great Cooking !!!

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 08:13 PM (gh+mp)

397 "357 Fucknuts is going to Russia. And he has more flexibility now. Posted by: Waterhous" Yup, he can really sell us out now.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 08:14 PM (jLiVY)

398 Elizabeth Warren = white (hahahahahahahahahahaha = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 08:15 PM (DoZD+)

399 #394: Exactly. Extra dollars might be better put in non-perishable commodities.

Posted by: Barky O'Drama at November 13, 2012 08:15 PM (pkkxZ)

400 Look, I love the vibrant community here, I just want to be able to have a cohesive discussion about some of this stuff without feeling like a schizophrenic. Posted by: sdavis at November 13, 2012 11:41 PM (njVMI) think of a smokey bar.... you need to skip the convos you are not interested in. at any time there are multiple discussions going on, pick and choose. for example I never get into cat conversations but I'll pay attention to pussy discussions

Posted by: jake in ID at November 13, 2012 08:16 PM (2CiZb)

401 From the LA Times-- Broadwell consented to an FBI search of her home in Charlotte, N.C., on Monday night, the official said, adding that no charges would be filed. "This is just running down the final alley, just trying to tie it up."

Posted by: New Black Panthers! at November 13, 2012 08:17 PM (r2PLg)

402 Michigan had everything for auto manufacturing, transportation, engineers, engineering colleges, experienced auto workers, management, the whole works. We lost every chance to get that manufacturing because of the UAW. And many in the UAW were pretty blunt about the fact that they didn't want factories in Michigan unless they were union.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 11:29 PM (jLiVY)

Not to mention GM's shutout of Saturn because its plants weren't on the UAW standard contract.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2012 08:18 PM (kaalw)

403 The FBI guy said that-- This is just running down the final alley, just trying to tie it up. ____________ Might be a red ne...Moron!

Posted by: New Black Panthers! at November 13, 2012 08:18 PM (r2PLg)

404

My new favorite residential warning sign:

"DUE TO PRICE INCREASES ON AMMO

DO NOT EXPECT A WARNING SHOT!"

Posted by: Icedog at November 13, 2012 08:19 PM (PTS+l)

405 Thanks for the linky love, Maet! Mow line up those shots!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 13, 2012 08:20 PM (IF7Sq)

406 hi all
somehow I got this painful blister right on the knuckle of my big toe
ugh

Posted by: chemjeff at November 13, 2012 08:20 PM (d/5qf)

407

Look, I love the vibrant community here, I just want to be able to have a cohesive discussion about some of this stuff without feeling like a schizophrenic

It's vibrant because of the coffee or DTs. Both of me said so.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 13, 2012 08:20 PM (+9AX9)

408 Got a meeting w/plant manager in the morning....got a feeling production is going to be curtailed...reduced hours....LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL!! YEAH BABY!

Posted by: BignJames at November 13, 2012 08:21 PM (HtUkt)

409 <<Conservative's Buyer Guide: Automobiles>>

As a dedicated pick-up owner, I have owned three GM's of various sizes until the bailout. I was so furious I swore I would never buy another GM pick-up. I also swore I would never buy a Dodge (complete shit...why do you think they're the most "affordable" truck on the market) or a Ford (nearly complete shit; my father, brother and grandfather are/were devoted Ford pick-up owners despite the fact that all three of them had to visit their mechanics every other month). So I was compelled to look at the foreign trucks and was happily surprised to discover Toyota Tundra is the ONLY pick-up designed and built in the United States (GM builds their trucks in Canada, Ford and Dodge in Mexico...no, Ford devotees, those F-350s that are occasionally rolled out in Kentucky so Ford can claim they build their truck in the U.S. do NOT count), and they're built by non-union workers in San Antonio.

My Tundra's at 60,000 miles now and all I've ever had to do was change the oil and rotate the tires. Still runs as quiet as when I first bought her and that's after hauling multiple loads, trips into the mountains off-road for camping or Christmas Trees and other assorted abuse. I have the 4.7 liter V-8, get 22 miles/gallon on the freeway and can pull up to five tons with very little power loss. Rides in the worst kind of snow/ice conditions as though it were a dry sunny day, and that sweet sport shifter; I can switch between manual and auto transmission on the fly.

Best truck I've ever owned...pretty sure it'll be my last, too.

Posted by: Sgt. York at November 13, 2012 08:21 PM (yk8/j)

410 "BTW, nice Mohawk. Are you 1/32 Mohawk? " Cherokee, asshole!

Posted by: sdavis at November 13, 2012 08:21 PM (njVMI)

411
"i live 25 miles north of the gulf in ms. land is relatively inexpensive (5-10 per acre) around here. i'm thinking lots of like minded people ... or at least the people i go to church are lol"

Better off than most parts of the country, to be sure.

Anywhere close to the Gulf coast, though, you have to ask the question: are you ready to endure a Camille-class storm without the prospect of external government aid? Mother Nature is a bitch, and she keeps to her own timetable regardless of what events may transpire in the political world of puny mortals.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 13, 2012 08:22 PM (ymG7s)

412 406 hi all
somehow I got this painful blister right on the knuckle of my big toe
ugh

Posted by: chemjeff at November 14, 2012 12:20 AM (d/5qf)

Must have been those ice skates.

Posted by: concrete girl at November 13, 2012 08:22 PM (y2Ojs)

413 "What I like is that there was a counter petition to have everyone that signed a sessecion petition stripped of their citizenship." 1. Isn't the idea of secession about revoking one's citizenship in the first place (at least from the United States as is) 2. If they revoke citizenship (in their twisted minds, those counter-petitioners), that means...NO MORE TAXES! Hell, they can just become illegal aliens like everyone else! And all that sweet sweet Obama money...

Posted by: cheshirecat at November 13, 2012 08:23 PM (Ykts1)

414 charging someone $35 000 a year to get a sociology degree is a grade-A scam;

Posted by: jimi ray at November 13, 2012 11:16 PM (79EF9)

Paying $35,000 for a sociology degree is grade-A stupid. There are lots of alternatives for students to achieve a meaningful degree. Too many parents have been sold on the idea of an "experience" for their kids complete with lofty halls, housing, sororities/fraternaties, etc. Schools capitalize on this.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at November 13, 2012 08:23 PM (ylxKy)

415 406 hi all somehow I got this painful blister right on the knuckle of my big toe ugh Posted by: chemjeff at November 14, 2012 12:20 AM (d/5qf) _______________________ Dude--the skating date--hello!

Posted by: New Black Panthers! at November 13, 2012 08:23 PM (r2PLg)

416 Inflation favors the debtor, as long as it is fixed interest rate. You're paying back the debt with worthless dollars. I cannot see paying back 3-4% money right now. Just keep debt load in check. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 14, 2012 12:12 AM (1Jxa1) That's right. In inflationary times you want to build up as much fixed rate debt as you possibly can. Using the money to buy hard assets is a double win. Frankly, at the rates today (artificially held, as they are) it is silly not to take on ungodly amounts of debt. The question is how long they artificially hold the rates down - or even drive them down further from these insanely low levels.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 13, 2012 08:24 PM (X3lox)

417 Unions are the backbone of the Motor Industry

Posted by: Former British Leyland workers at November 13, 2012 08:24 PM (wwsoB)

418 OK, i;m out AltonJackson = white = goinig to bed tomorrow night, mi amigos1

Posted by: AltonJackson has done 20+ years in The Stoopid Business at November 13, 2012 08:25 PM (JMmQ9)

419 66 @52

Do you have any large debts like credit cards, loans or a mortgage that could be drawn down completely with the monies in your 401k?

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 13, 2012 10:33 PM (0fxcV)

It's not that bad to keep the mortgage in a low interest and high inflation situation.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at November 13, 2012 08:25 PM (AWmfW)

420

Fuck you fans!!! We hate you!!

Posted by: NHL/NHLPA at November 13, 2012 08:25 PM (GCTeZ)

421 Best truck I've ever owned...pretty sure it'll be my last, too. Posted by: Sgt. York at November 14, 2012 12:21 AM (yk8/j) can't go wrong with a Toyota except for maybe a Prius

Posted by: jake in ID at November 13, 2012 08:26 PM (2CiZb)

422 Accomplishments of my first administration

Played more golf in my first term than Bush and Clinton combined, and lowered my handicap by 3 strokes!

Posted by: Barry Obullshit at November 13, 2012 08:27 PM (wwsoB)

423 yeah it was probably the skating date, but the blister just showed up today for some reason.

you know, some nice 'ette pics would really console me right now...

Posted by: chemjeff at November 13, 2012 08:27 PM (d/5qf)

424 406 hi all
somehow I got this painful blister right on the knuckle of my big toe
ugh

Posted by: chemjeff at November 14, 2012 12:20 AM (d/5qf)

Did this somehow involve ice skating?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2012 08:27 PM (kaalw)

425

237 I'm absolutely thrilled to tell you my Romney/Ryan yardsigns arrived today in the mail. I shit you not.

Posted by: tcn at November 13, 2012 11:08 PM (VLG62)

I'm not at all surprised - I did get my yard sign a couple of weeks ago, but they never delivered some other stuff I ordered at the end of September... I guess that should have told me something.

Posted by: George W Beagle's mom at November 13, 2012 08:29 PM (JwW4z)

426 Looking at Akin, Mourdock, ORCA, Sandy, tv advertising, debates, the MSM, Benghazi cover up

As Winston Churchill wrote of Gallipoli ....

"The Terrible Ifs Accumulate ... "

Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2012 08:29 PM (wwsoB)

427 and I am a big fan of Toyotas too. think that my next one will be a Scion.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 13, 2012 08:29 PM (d/5qf)

428 Well at least you have a life--how pathetic is it that I am trolling the thread with this handle? Gawd--off to go finish the chianti.

Posted by: New Black Panthers! at November 13, 2012 08:30 PM (r2PLg)

429 Cherokee, asshole!
Screw them. They work for Harvard.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 13, 2012 08:30 PM (nkiQM)

430 yeah, who exactly was running the Romney campaign store? Axelrod? sure seems like it

Posted by: chemjeff at November 13, 2012 08:30 PM (d/5qf)

431 I love my Jeep and always said I'd buy another when I buy a new car.

If Chrysler is off-limits then I'm going to be driving this one for a while.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 08:31 PM (piMMO)

432 Mae West had pointy elbows! I can see them. .. No, well, maybe I can't exactly see them, but I think that they are there! Cool suit though. Way to hit the runway Mae!

Posted by: and irresolute at November 13, 2012 08:31 PM (DBH1h)

433
57 >>No photos of the bra/sweater combo?

Here are my puppies:

https://twitter.com/moxiemom/status/268556542712893440

Posted by: Y-not at November 13, 2012 10:31 PM (5H6zj)

I take the term "ONT" quite literally, so I usually miss all the action... I think Y-not has signed off for the night, but I just had to re-post this link and say "What adorable puppies!!!" TOO CUTE!

Posted by: George W Beagle's mom at November 13, 2012 08:32 PM (JwW4z)

434 Hah. I see that EVERYONE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyfbRz4ObFY ) jumped into the ice skating/toe blister thing.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2012 08:32 PM (kaalw)

435 "It's not that bad to keep the mortgage in a low interest and high inflation situation. Posted by: Temper Tantrum " Being debt free is fantastic for people who are in danger of becoming unemployed or having their income drop. If you don't owe money on anything, you'd be surprised how cheaply you can live. Especially if you know how to buy cheap groceries. The freedom of not making car payments, mortgage payments, or credit card payments is a wonderful feeling.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 08:32 PM (jLiVY)

436 Consumer debt outstanding is close to 1 trillion dollars

Somehow, I don't think the Occupoopers have that kind of scratch in their trust funds even at 10 cents on the dollar

Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2012 08:32 PM (wwsoB)

437
430 yeah, who exactly was running the Romney campaign store? Axelrod? sure seems like it

Posted by: chemjeff at November 14, 2012 12:30 AM (d/5qf)

I think he and his cronies were running the store, the campaign, AND the media...

Posted by: George W Beagle's mom at November 13, 2012 08:33 PM (JwW4z)

438 "Now, now, if that's the only way he can get some, don't laugh at him." uh, i have a fiancÃ©. a really hawt, tall, strong, smart, affectionate, protective, doting, well-read, gorgeous military fiancÃ© from a prominent family who picked me all of his own accord. since he flies out from chicago, half the country away, to be with me over the weekend when i've had a tough week, i'm pretty sure i can "get some" any time i want. you, meanwhile, i take to be the type of disturbingly obese, pock-faced, mangy-haired heifer who couldn't get any male attention if she stripped bare and lumbered around a crowded city intersection singing "justify my love". ok, ok -- so maybe someone would call the EPA about the beached manatee awkwardly wobbling around in the city streets bellowing out a horrific mating call that's terrifying the women and children of the city. hay, gotta take what you can get, right?

Posted by: jimi ray at November 13, 2012 08:34 PM (79EF9)

439 While Toyotas are reliable cars, I hate them because apparently they are delivered without turn signals or mirrors.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 08:34 PM (bxiXv)

440 431 I love my Jeep and always said I'd buy another when I buy a new car.

If Chrysler is off-limits then I'm going to be driving this one for a while.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 14, 2012 12:31 AM

Buy a used one that's only a few years old with low mileage

The money doesn't go into the UAW pockets after the first sale from the dealership

Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2012 08:35 PM (wwsoB)

441 >I've taken the pledge. I am never buying another UAW-built vehicle ever again.

Same here. Last summer I bought my first Toyota, an FJ instead of the Jeep I was looking at before the bailout. Its a great truck by the way.

Then, at the end of this summer I was in the market for a motorcycle. I wanted to buy American, but the fact that Harley is union made stuck in my craw a bit. So, I looked into Victory. They're made in Iowa by non-union workers. Turns out, they have a reputation for being higher performance and more reliable than HD. I bought mine at the end of August and absolutely love it. The weather in Minnesota is about to shut me down, but I have had a blast on it so far.

Moral of the story, the Unions can fuck off and die. I'll never give them another red cent.

Posted by: DanInMN at November 13, 2012 08:35 PM (khf9A)

442 Because there is a war on woman, there is. Sink your heads, and just settle down a bit, and get it. There is a war on women. Why, or more precisely, exactly HOW, did that war end? That war isn't done. That war is ongoing.

Posted by: twoslaps at November 13, 2012 08:36 PM (N36ZX)

443 It's not that bad to keep the mortgage in a low interest and high inflation situation.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at November 14, 2012 12:25 AM (AWmfW)

^^This. I'm planning on letting inflation cover my mortgage. If destiny has me going broke it was going to happen regardless of the mortgage anyway, frankly.

Posted by: tsrblke at November 13, 2012 08:36 PM (GaqMa)

444 Posted by: jimi ray at November 14, 2012 12:34 AM (79EF9) Just in case you were wondering, people don't hate you because you're gay, they hate you because you're an asshole with no sense of humor or internal filter. There was some straight lady last year who wouldn't shut up about getting it on the kitchen counter. They drove her out of here like a common pygmy. So, just so you know, we didn't change the rules for you. Half of us love Gabe, and everyone loves Alex. It's not us, it's you.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 08:37 PM (bxiXv)

445 : jimi ray, Ooh, ouch. Now you can get back to pretending to be conservative.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 08:39 PM (jLiVY)

446

The election was rigged...in spite of the crap republicans who helped the rigging......can it get more pathetic than that...SERIOUS??

Concord Bridge..redux....

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 13, 2012 08:39 PM (7Ukq0)

447 Ta-Da! Zeera in the HQ

Posted by: zeera at November 13, 2012 08:39 PM (Lv9bM)

448 While Toyotas are reliable cars, I hate them because apparently they are delivered without turn signals or mirrors. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 14, 2012 12:34 AM (bxiXv) what? I've got several Toyotas, I have not experianced this

Posted by: jake in ID at November 13, 2012 08:40 PM (2CiZb)

449 Posted by: jimi ray at November 13, 2012 11:25 PM (79EF9)

What was that post where you told us how you win people over by being civil and nice to them ... ? Cause I'm not seeing it put in practice.

BTW, you read that post wrong. They were talking about how the reporting of the events lets Obama off the hook for his failure. Nothing was implied about it being an Obama master plan.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 13, 2012 08:40 PM (xHaTb)

450 Katya, have you gotten to Alan Grayson yet?

Posted by: Mindy at November 13, 2012 08:40 PM (6jLT3)

451 Tampons did this election!

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 13, 2012 08:42 PM (7Ukq0)

452 crowded city intersection singing "justify my love". Posted by: jimi ray at November 14, 2012 12:34 AM (79EF9) Early 90's Madonna? for real?

Posted by: jake in ID at November 13, 2012 08:43 PM (2CiZb)

453

448 While Toyotas are reliable cars, I hate them because apparently they are delivered without turn signals or mirrors.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 14, 2012 12:34 AM (bxiXv)

what?

I've got several Toyotas, I have not experianced this

Posted by: jake in ID at November 14, 2012 12:40 AM (2CiZb)

Haha - Merovign, I do believe, was making a joke... Reminds me of a letter to the editor once upon a time in Knoxville, TN - writer said that car makers saved money manufacturing cars for Tennesseeans, because they didn't have to install turn signals or ashtrays (NOBODY uses them in TN...)

Posted by: George W Beagle's mom at November 13, 2012 08:43 PM (JwW4z)

454 "450 Katya, have you gotten to Alan Grayson yet?" Oh, bummer. I'd forgotten that that tool won.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 08:43 PM (jLiVY)

455

................I got a pet wussy!............

..............You that read wrong.........

............You read that wrong too...........

Posted by: Icedog at November 13, 2012 08:44 PM (PTS+l)

456 "Paying $35,000 for a sociology degree is grade-A stupid. There are lots of alternatives for students to achieve a meaningful degree." i never said it wasn't inadvisable; i said the idea that kids should be fully able of their own accord to make the best choices for their future career stability when entering college is preposterous...and the extractive culture of higher education is largely responsible for what amounts to rent-seeking at the expense of ambitious young adults. it's more than a little heinous to exploit the developing minds of children who want to make a difference -- like all youngsters of that age -- by saddling them with $150 000 of debt to get a degree in vastly overserved markets. universities of all sorts mendaciously cook their "job placement" stats in order to fool students into believing that there really are enough meaningful, career-oriented jobs for a philosophy grad such that, at least graduating from this university, those horror stories about college grads having to scrape by on waitressing tips will never happen to you! if parents are complicit, that's even less reason to blame the children, of course. o.o but i really wouldn't want the inconvenient facts to get in the way of the oh-so-popular bashing of college students around here. ~.~ i'm not sure what "other alternatives" you could possibly be talking about, unless you think everyone should be a mechanic or work in retail of join the military for life...even engineering and science degrees cost $35 000 a year, for the record, and no, sorry, taking "courses" online with scam operations like university of phoenix doesn't provide the same sort of opportunities for career-oriented job placement that a degree from a real four-year university would. especially not in an economy like this one, where it's truly an employer's market, and even folks with high-powered degrees are in some cases reduced to seeking employment incommensurate with their level of education. alum associations unfortunately perpetuate an in-group sort of nepotism, so even the university you attend can be instrumental in landing you a "real" job upon graduation. alums from harvard and the ivies are known for their preferential hiring of "their own", but even state schools like A&M and UT, both heavily involved in texas oil, encourage cultures of school preference that manifest as a sort of "school-choice affirmative action". it's a hard sell to tell me that a kid entering college with a dream, who has never tried for a real job and knows no more about the job market and placement rates than what the university's Lying Lying Liars tell them, can be held fully responsible for believing what he's told. cynicism often comes too late, in that you usually don't develop it until you suffer the consequences of believing in someone else's good faith.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 13, 2012 08:45 PM (79EF9)

457 450 Katya, have you gotten to Alan Grayson yet? Posted by: Mindy at November 14, 2012 12:40 AM

She's going through the humans first

Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2012 08:45 PM (wwsoB)

458 Being debt free is fantastic for people who are in danger of becoming unemployed or having their income drop. If you don't owe money on anything, you'd be surprised how cheaply you can live. Especially if you know how to buy cheap groceries. Posted by: nerdygirl

I'm becoming f-underemployed next year (by choice). My mortgage is down to $930/mo; all my expenses ex-food = $1,900/mo. If I can make about $45k, golden. Even if not, I have plenty for awhile.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 13, 2012 08:45 PM (/nqdo)

459 If you're thinking of investing in hard assets, you could do worse than buying some extra romex. It's a building material, so there's hardly any profit margin for the purchase....and there's continued demand even after a hard crash, since nobody sane wants to compromise on building codes.*

* Loma Prieta, in 1989, had a moment magnitude of 6.9 and killed 63 people in the heavily-populated SF Bay area. By contrast, there was a quake in sparsely populated Bam, Iran, in 2003 that had a moment magnitude of 6.6 and killed over 26,000 people -- almost half the city. The major difference: BUILDING CODES.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2012 08:45 PM (kaalw)

460 I've got several Toyotas, I have not experianced this Posted by: jake in ID at November 14, 2012 12:40 AM (2CiZb) Well, it must be the drivers, then. Pretty much if a car is in my way doing something stupid, it's a Toyota a staggering percentage of the time. Usually minivans and compacts, but sometimes others. I sometimes wonder if it's the cars or the drivers.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 08:45 PM (bxiXv)

461
454 "450 Katya, have you gotten to Alan Grayson yet?"

Oh, bummer. I'd forgotten that that tool won.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 14, 2012 12:43 AM (jLiVY)

Alan Grayson, Elizabeth Warren, Al Franken, Joe Biden... What the F&*$ has happened to our country??? I really do think we are living in a mirror universe...

Posted by: George W Beagle's mom at November 13, 2012 08:45 PM (JwW4z)

462 Posted by: jimi ray at November 14, 2012 12:34 AM (79EF9) No one wants you around here. Go hang out somewhere else, you pathetic turd.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 13, 2012 08:46 PM (X3lox)

463 I have about 10 years of a fixed rate mortgage left. With Bank of America. I want to get away form those idiots because they are good at screwing things up.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 08:48 PM (nByYy)

464 * Loma Prieta, in 1989, had a moment magnitude of 6.9 and killed 63 people in the heavily-populated SF Bay area. By contrast, there was a quake in sparsely populated Bam, Iran, in 2003 that had a moment magnitude of 6.6 and killed over 26,000 people -- almost half the city. The major difference: BUILDING CODES.
Posted by: cthulhu

I was in Loma Prieta, at S.F. St., just about to settle down to the ballgame. The difference isn't so much codes (a lot of buildings had not been retrofitted) but modern building practices (to code or not) versus ramshackle crap that probably doesn't even have power (electricity or gas).

Posted by: SFGoth at November 13, 2012 08:49 PM (/nqdo)

465 Buy a used one that's only a few years old with low mileage

The money doesn't go into the UAW pockets after the first sale from the dealership

*****

If I want one that's a few years old, I'll hold on to the one I have. I bought it new and know where it's been.

Here's hoping the American makes get their shit together soon.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 08:49 PM (piMMO)

466 I bought a used 1991 Toyota Corolla station wagon in 1999 and it's the best car I've ever owned. I don't drive much so it only has 157,000 miles on it. It runs great, but the body is dissolving. I had some body work done last year in order to pass inspection, so hopefully that will buy me a couple more years. If I can hang on until the collapse and deflation, then maybe I'll be able to pick up a slightly used Beemer or something in trade for a can of soup.

Posted by: rickl at November 13, 2012 08:51 PM (sdi6R)

467 There was some straight lady last year who wouldn't shut up about getting it on the kitchen counter. They drove her out of here like a common pygmy.

She wasn't driven out. She was simply...occupied.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 13, 2012 08:51 PM (d/5qf)

468 259 had it right about the OWS... now you have to wonder who has your ssn... and your insurance info... Of course they can always file 1099 Cs on you too for it (and might need too if the IRS goes after them)

Posted by: Howard Devore at November 13, 2012 08:51 PM (DJE6T)

469 I sometimes wonder if it's the cars or the drivers. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 14, 2012 12:45 AM (bxiXv) I think this is a math issue, Toyota sells more stuff than all the rest so increased probability an all minivans age guarenteed to be a trafffic hazzard, the cargo and all I want to get a minivan for the wife with "Look the fuck out! Jake's kids onboard" plastered on the rear window... serious

Posted by: jake in ID at November 13, 2012 08:51 PM (2CiZb)

470 "Congrats, OWS; you just forgave fourteen grand you were never going to recover anyway" Math is hard when you are raping in a tent.

Posted by: cheshirecat at November 13, 2012 08:52 PM (Ykts1)

471 When they moved the dimmer switch to the turn signal the accident rates went up in Kentucky. Seems they were getting their foot caught in the steering wheel.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 13, 2012 08:52 PM (+9AX9)

472

Speaking of degrees, my daughter is going to UMBC in Jan (actually a very good school, suprisingly). She's completed all her gen ed requirements and a few electives (about 50 SHs), but not must focus on her major. She has settled on Biology (after two years of consideration)....but it is a degree and a field I know absolutely nothing about.

Would definitely appreciate any feedback from some morons in the know.

Posted by: Icedog at November 13, 2012 08:53 PM (PTS+l)

473 "Nevermind....don't even try to read that crap....." I stopped reading at "Obama" and "accomplishments".

Posted by: cheshirecat at November 13, 2012 08:53 PM (Ykts1)

474 Toby Keith on the Late, Late Show tonight

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 08:53 PM (piMMO)

475 "What was that post where you told us how you win people over by being civil and nice to them ... ? Cause I'm not seeing it put in practice." yeah, sorry, i'm over playing nice with the "christians" here who take every chance they can get to insult me -- folks i've never even heard of in my life -- and then, right on cue!!!!, whine about how nasty i am when i dare to respond to someone attacking me first. i've said as much before: i'm sick of "christians" calling me a "cum-guzzling douche-nozzle" (wwjd?) and then wringing their hands in despair when i show the audacity to fight back. even since the election, the "play nice" truce that commenters here were following in regards to folks with different views has been ignored in preference of obscenity-laced screeds directed against vicarious targets of their frustrations, viz, Anyone Who Doesn't Think Exactly Like Me. so, again: if anyone feels the need to snipe nasty at me for utterly no reason whatsoever, he or she can expect me to dig deeply to respond in kind with an absurdly over-adjectivised statement of my own distaste. some people are worth killing with kindness, in that there's hope that sometime in the future there will be some opportunity for meaningful discussion with them that civility would go a long way toward facilitating. then there are the conservative daily-kos kids on aoshq.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 13, 2012 08:53 PM (79EF9)

476 I saw Sandra Fluke dumpster diving for tampons south of 3rd street...she appeared to be huffing the bath salts...can't keep her focused on the "I"-phone she is shape shifting too fast......OOOOHHHH..she just ate the hub caps off a Land Rover...DANG!!!!

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 13, 2012 08:54 PM (7Ukq0)

477 okay, time for bed
good night all
the future will be better, I am sure

Posted by: chemjeff at November 13, 2012 08:55 PM (d/5qf)

478 "Alan Grayson, Elizabeth Warren, Al Franken, Joe Biden... What the F*$ has happened to our country??? I really do think we are living in a mirror universe... Posted by: George W Beagle's mom " The biggest indictment of the news media would be that they had little problem with Biden's debate behavior. I guarantee, if any republican had behaved like that during a debate they would have been crucified. I'm a news junkie who used to switch between all the news networks and the alphabet news. Now, you couldn't pay me to tune in those frauds.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 08:56 PM (jLiVY)

479 Remember folks, the first two years of Obullshit's failures were the fault of Congress, even though Dems held both chambers

Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2012 08:56 PM (wwsoB)

480 rowded city intersection singing "justify my love".

Posted by: jimi ray at November 14, 2012 12:34 AM (79EF9)

That's pretty ghey.

Posted by: Liberace at November 13, 2012 08:57 PM (Ohhk6)

481 oh, and the Occupoopers probably didn't realize, that debt forgiveness is treated as taxable income by the IRS, so they just created $14K in tax liability for people who are most likely struggling as it is because they were behind on their bills

Posted by: chemjeff at November 13, 2012 08:57 PM (d/5qf)

482 H2 is playing the Mayan Apocolypse a lot in the past few days

I find it heartwarming now

Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2012 08:58 PM (wwsoB)

483 My Country tis of thee...............buy more guns, buy more ammo.

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 13, 2012 08:58 PM (7Ukq0)

484 you, meanwhile, i take to be the type of disturbingly obese, pock-faced, mangy-haired heifer who couldn't get any male attention if she stripped bare and lumbered around a crowded city intersection singing "justify my love".

Wow, jimi ray, you are downright malicious. You seem to lack empathy.

Your memory isn't so hot, either. 2/10, please. Thanks.

Posted by: fluffy at November 13, 2012 08:59 PM (z9HTb)

485 jimi ray, thank you for making your rants as long as one of ace's movie reviews.

Makes it easier to skip past

Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2012 08:59 PM (wwsoB)

486 Okay, thanks to Lt. Kendra we have a new phrase from a woman on the show. "What in that hamster trap of a brain made you think that?"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 09:00 PM (nByYy)

487 "Just like Barack Obama is White" He's only half-white, so he won't go to hell, just to Newark, New Jersey.

Posted by: cheshirecat at November 13, 2012 09:01 PM (Ykts1)

488 There was some straight lady last year who wouldn't shut up about getting it on the kitchen counter. They drove her out of here like a common pygmy. She wasn't driven out. She was simply...occupied. Pfft, we ragged her mercilessly, as is our wont, for her gross timmuh! She got all butt hurt and started flinging shit every which way. Can't remember the dumb bints name.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at November 13, 2012 09:02 PM (pY5dQ)

489 481 oh, and the Occupoopers probably didn't realize, that debt forgiveness is treated as taxable income by the IRS, so they just created $14K in tax liability for people who are most likely struggling as it is because they were behind on their bills
Posted by: chemjeff

Nah, they only "bailed out" the right people. The IRNKVDS won't touch 'em.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 13, 2012 09:03 PM (/nqdo)

490 Well, isn't jimiray just FABULOUS tonight?

Posted by: tcn at November 13, 2012 09:03 PM (VLG62)

491 I can't take the election out on King Barry, but I will take it out on his enablers and his fanboys/fangirls

Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2012 09:03 PM (wwsoB)

492
478
The biggest indictment of the news media would be that they had little problem with Biden's debate behavior. I guarantee, if any republican had behaved like that during a debate they would have been crucified. I'm a news junkie who used to switch between all the news networks and the alphabet news. Now, you couldn't pay me to tune in those frauds.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 14, 2012 12:56 AM (jLiVY)

Ain't that the truth? Greg Gutfeld came up with a new term - yesterday, I think. "IIWAR" - If it was a Republican - for things like Biden's debate antics. It really is stunning, how blatant the libs are sometimes - all the rich white liberals, like Bill Maher and his cronies, excoriate rich white liberals... Allen West said it pretty well - the dems criticize the GOP for not having any diversity, but when someone "diverse" shows up in the GOP, they condemn that person. Arrggghhhh...

Posted by: George W Beagle's mom at November 13, 2012 09:03 PM (JwW4z)

493 Icedog I don't know what you do with a biology degree, but I knew some people who had microbiology degrees. They get work in labs. You know, doing cultures and stuff. STD's, strept, staph, etc. I hear STD work is a booming business.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 09:03 PM (jLiVY)

494 If you think the HQ is a ~~christian~~ Christian blog, you're not bright enough to comment here.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 13, 2012 09:04 PM (nkiQM)

495 Isn't that lovely, forgive student debt. Start them out in their adult life to believe that being a freeloader is a good thing. Um, how are they gonna buy student debt? The gov't handles that now, and they'll collect on that son-of-a-bitch until you die (or afterwards!) if necessary.

Posted by: cheshirecat at November 13, 2012 09:04 PM (Ykts1)

496 15 days and there are still people in NY and NJ without power

That Booosh doesn't care, does he !!!!

Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2012 09:05 PM (wwsoB)

497 Pfft, we ragged her mercilessly, as is our wont, for her gross timmuh!

At least I'm gettin some.

Posted by: Timmuh the Pygmy on the kitchen counter at November 13, 2012 09:06 PM (d/5qf)

498 Hello. Twelve years ago today, I adopted a little feisty tiger tabby from the animal shelter. Twelve years later, she is dozing on the couch.

Happy Birthday, Leela the Cat.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 13, 2012 09:06 PM (i0App)

499 I was in Loma Prieta, at S.F. St., just about to settle down to the ballgame. The difference isn't so much codes (a lot of buildings had not been retrofitted) but modern building practices (to code or not) versus ramshackle crap that probably doesn't even have power (electricity or gas).

Posted by: SFGoth at November 14, 2012 12:49 AM (/nqdo)

I was in Mountain View......a bit closer....and in a building-type that failed miserably in the 1994 Northridge quake (apartments over parking). But even old building codes are better than no building codes at all. My father retired as the #3 Engineer for the City of Los Angeles, and I will firmly maintain that building inspectors are some of the great unsung heroes of the modern world, even though they can be a serious pain in the ass.

And, yes -- I really believe that even though I've intentionally thwarted them at times. I was involved with a commercial project in South San Jose that involved putting a driveway across a sidewalk.

Attempt #1 -- by the book. Passed all inspections. Had a few grading vehicles go over it, and it cracked. Inspector made us replace it.

Attempt #2 -- by the book, with added rebar. Passed all inspections. Had a few concrete trucks go over it, and it cracked. Inspector made us replace it.

Attempt #3 -- by the book until the inspector completed "pre-pour" inspection....then went back, and dug another 6" out of that MF the night before the pour. Laid in serious rebar and wire mesh. Hitler's bunker could only wish that it could have so much concrete and steel. Despite subsequent abuse, didn't crack. Only problem is if the city ever decides to run a sewer pipe through that area or something.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2012 09:06 PM (kaalw)

500 If you think the HQ is a Christian blog, you're not bright enough to comment here.

We do have some commenters who barely skim what others write.

Posted by: fluffy at November 13, 2012 09:07 PM (z9HTb)

501 okay, srsly going to bed this time

Posted by: chemjeff at November 13, 2012 09:07 PM (d/5qf)

502 I've pretty much found that if it weren't for Republicans, the lefties wouldn't have anything to talk about

They're driven by anger, resentment, and hate

Oh, and gays are so oppressed and need our attention the most, even though they have the highest proportion of their numbers in high earning professions, and have Hollywood as a bullhorn

Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2012 09:08 PM (wwsoB)

503 okay, srsly, Good Night, then ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 09:09 PM (gh+mp)

504 G'night, Chemjeff!

Posted by: Mindy at November 13, 2012 09:09 PM (6jLT3)

505
498 Hello. Twelve years ago today, I adopted a little feisty tiger tabby from the animal shelter. Twelve years later, she is dozing on the couch.

Happy Birthday, Leela the Cat.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 14, 2012 01:06 AM (i0App)

Very cool! My little adopted monster cat, Mooch, celebrated his "gotcha" day yesterday (the 13th) - we've had him for two years, and they "think" he was two when we got him. He's not quite the terror he was at first, although he has his moments. He amuses the beagle, though

Posted by: George W Beagle's mom at November 13, 2012 09:09 PM (JwW4z)

506

Posted by: cthulhu at November 14, 2012 12:45 AM (kaalw)

Gilroy!...But a ranch so no damage done....I liked it.

Posted by: concrete girl at November 13, 2012 09:10 PM (y2Ojs)

507 At least I'm gettin some. Posted by: Timmuh the Pygmy on the kitchen counter No, really, that is STILL a sex doll you're hammering no matter how many times you tell everyone otherwise.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at November 13, 2012 09:10 PM (pY5dQ)

508

Frankly.

Time for the true to go deep ground at least for the next 2 years and plan so very carefully plan...OR just stomp out the general distaste right the fuck now and push...push...push

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 13, 2012 09:10 PM (7Ukq0)

509 Hippo Birdy 2 Ewes, Leela the Cat and happy day to her human companion as well ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 09:10 PM (gh+mp)

510

I hear STD work is a booming business

Herpes research is an on and off and on and off and on and off again thing.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 13, 2012 09:11 PM (+9AX9)

511 496 15 days and there are still people in NY and NJ without power

Posted by: kbdabear at November 14, 2012 01:05 AM

Mr President, I'm ready for my close up

Posted by: Chris Christie at November 13, 2012 09:11 PM (wwsoB)

512 I've pretty much found that if it weren't for Republicans, the lefties wouldn't have anything to talk about They're driven by anger, resentment, and hate We are their father.

Posted by: t-bird at November 13, 2012 09:12 PM (FcR7P)

513 Don't you see the difference, Captain? I'm an asshole on my black half and on my white half.

Posted by: president o'bumbles lecturing captain kirk at November 13, 2012 09:12 PM (nkiQM)

514 hello bebe hope things are going at least a little better than previous days ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 09:12 PM (gh+mp)

515 474 "What was that post where you told us how you win people over by being civil and nice to them ... ? Cause I'm not seeing it put in practice."

yeah, sorry, i'm over playing nice with the "christians" here who take every chance they can get to insult me -- folks i've never even heard of in my life -- and then, right on cue!!!!, whine about how nasty i am when i dare to respond to someone attacking me first.

i've said as much before: i'm sick of "christians" calling me a "cum-guzzling douche-nozzle" (wwjd?) and then wringing their hands in despair when i show the audacity to fight back.

even since the election, the "play nice" truce that commenters here were following in regards to folks with different views has been ignored in preference of obscenity-laced screeds directed against vicarious targets of their frustrations, viz, Anyone Who Doesn't Think Exactly Like Me.

so, again: if anyone feels the need to snipe nasty at me for utterly no reason whatsoever, he or she can expect me to dig deeply to respond in kind with an absurdly over-adjectivised statement of my own distaste.

some people are worth killing with kindness, in that there's hope that sometime in the future there will be some opportunity for meaningful discussion with them that civility would go a long way toward facilitating.

then there are the conservative daily-kos kids on aoshq.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 14, 2012 12:53 AM (79EF9)

We don't hate gay people or non-Christians, we just hate Eurotrash like you.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 13, 2012 09:13 PM (Ohhk6)

516 Fat kitteh has decided to plop down on the desk here, but has graciously decided not to cover the mouse pad.

Must be the snack bribes

Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2012 09:14 PM (wwsoB)

517 Cats are like, the BEST and stuff. At least that's what I have to say to avoid more scratches...

OUCH, wasn't supposed to mention that...

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 13, 2012 09:15 PM (i0App)

518 "494 If you think the HQ is a christian Christian blog, you're not bright enough to comment here. Posted by: andycanuck" Everyone knows it's a smart military blog.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 09:15 PM (jLiVY)

519 rimi jay, if you feel so oppressed here, why do you spend so much time here?

Does it make you feel good to spread the misery?

Help! Help! I'm being repressed! See the violence inherent in the system!!!

Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2012 09:16 PM (wwsoB)

520 kbdabear, just don't quiz JR about the swallows.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 09:17 PM (nByYy)

521 Hi Adriane. Thanks. Not really. My mom is in a nursing home temporarily. Its supposed to be a week, until she is off iv antibiotics and the latest abcess is more healed. But then she comes home and we have to hire 24 hour nursing. The money is going to run out fast. So far she's not in the kind of pain my dad was at this point, but i don't know how long that will last. Its horrible to watch her go through this. I wish God would take her before it gets worse.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at November 13, 2012 09:18 PM (pY5dQ)

522

nerdygirl,

Hmmm, you may be on to something with the microbiology thing...not sure if it's closely related, but I can see a rash of diseases caused by inadequate sanitation and water, an increase in prostitution, and more exposure to infectious diseases in our country's future.

Posted by: Icedog at November 13, 2012 09:18 PM (PTS+l)

523 498 Hello. Twelve years ago today, I adopted a little feisty tiger tabby from the animal shelter. Twelve years later, she is dozing on the couch.

Happy Birthday, Leela the Cat.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

Like! (oops, not FB) I was adopted by a big tabby who looked like a lion. He made it to around 15. How he didn't die on the street (since he remained an outdoor cat most of his life) I don't know.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 13, 2012 09:19 PM (/nqdo)

524 some people are worth killing with kindness, in that there's hope that sometime in the future there will be some opportunity for meaningful discussion with them that civility would go a long way toward facilitating. So, kindness is not an innate characteristic of your behavior but a skill learned for the purpose of being a manipulative asshole to those you deem worthy. Good to know.

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 09:19 PM (gh+mp)

525 Since when was there a "play nice truce" since Doom Tuesday?

I didn't sign it, my lawyers weren't contacted, so I'm not a party to this agreement

Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2012 09:20 PM (wwsoB)

526 "Just in case you were wondering, people don't hate you because you're gay, they hate you because you're an asshole with no sense of humor or internal filter." lol. i'm well-aware that everyone here hates me because my views are a little different from the hard line in the sand. i suppose it's lost on the conservative kos kids that every single commenter who comes here with views slightly different than the party line somehow mysteriously becomes "an asshole" with "no sense of humour" after being pelted with the stones of your exceedingly unclever mental quarries, but there really is a simple explanation. you don't give a fuck about "condescension", because you condescend to every earnest statement of my political opinions. you don't give a fuck about "good humour", because the type of things you condemn out of my mouth are certainly no worse than the things which prompted my unconscionable response. and you certainly don't give a fuck about "asshole behaviour", because lots of you spend all night on here repeating utterly unoriginal insults attempting to one-up one another's mean-girl factor. sure, you suck gabe's dick and you suck ace's dick like good little soldiers, but the reality is that if they came in here, like i did, in good faith simply posting their views, they'd be deluged with a constant flood of nasty insults about their sexuality, how stupid they are, and how much they guzzle cum in general -- and if they fought back? SELF-JUSTIFICATION BABY: "see, i knew he was an asshole! that's why i called him a 'cum-guzzling douche-nozzle' in the first place!" yeah. spend a week using folks with slightly different opinions as a punching back for the same electoral frustrations that those folks have...and when someone gets fucking tired of it and fights back, you're suddenly wringing your hands about "civility" and "asshole" behaviour? hmm, now what political group does that sound like?

Posted by: jimi ray at November 13, 2012 09:20 PM (79EF9)

527 Bebe, your mom's in my prayers. Sounds like you are a special blessing to her.

Posted by: Mindy at November 13, 2012 09:20 PM (6jLT3)

528 GM builds their trucks in Canada, Ford and Dodge in Mexico

Ford builds F-150s at Dearborn Truck and Kansas City.

Ford's Mexico plants build Fusions and Focii (though US plants do too), and apparently some big commercial trucks.

GM builds some Silverados in Canada, and some in Flint and Fort Wayne.

http://tinyurl.com/bsyhbva

http://tinyurl.com/claxw2x

I know, I know, nothing accurate could possibly be on wikipedia.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 09:21 PM (bdZaM)

529 Craig Ferguson: First Toby Keith and now JR Martinez.

Toby Keith said he's been on the USO tour for 11 years now and is approaching his 200th show.

THAT, you JEF is "cool".

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 09:21 PM (piMMO)

530

515

Dude..or

It is so easy,

Leave and go post where you feel at.....home....simple as can be.

Don't stay where you have to grind your jaw and feel pain. I want you not to feel pain...so...leave and be at peace....simple!

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 13, 2012 09:22 PM (7Ukq0)

531 I didn't see any agreement either ...

and jimi ray, wherever you are out there ....

FUCK YOU TOO !!!!

Posted by: Lt Col Frank Slade at November 13, 2012 09:22 PM (wwsoB)

532 bebe - prayers for you and your mother.

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 09:23 PM (gh+mp)

533 Thanks Mindy. Prayers are much appreciated!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at November 13, 2012 09:23 PM (pY5dQ)

534 spend a week using folks with slightly different opinions as a punching back for the same electoral frustrations that those folks have...and when someone gets fucking tired of it and fights back, you're suddenly wringing your hands about "civility" and "asshole" behaviour?

hmm, now what political group does that sound like?

Posted by: jimi ray at November 14, 2012 01:20 AM (79EF9)

Dude, nobody wanted you around BEFORE the election. You were a douchebag then, and you are still one today.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 13, 2012 09:26 PM (Ohhk6)

535 521 Hi Adriane. Thanks. Not really. My mom is in a nursing home temporarily. Its supposed to be a week, until she is off iv antibiotics and the latest abcess is more healed. But then she comes home and we have to hire 24 hour nursing. The money is going to run out fast. So far she's not in the kind of pain my dad was at this point, but i don't know how long that will last. Its horrible to watch her go through this. I wish God would take her before it gets worse.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at November 14, 2012 01:18 AM (pY5dQ)

You and your mom have *continuously* been in my thoughts and prayers since Gushka told me about your situation.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2012 09:27 PM (kaalw)

536 Thanks Adriane and Coothie. All you guys support means more to me than i can say.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at November 13, 2012 09:29 PM (pY5dQ)

537 icedog, I really do think that if she likes labwork, she might want to look into microbiology. I haven't seen these people lately and don't know what the job market is like now, but it seemed like they liked their work.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 09:30 PM (jLiVY)

538 "If you think the HQ is a Christian blog, you're not bright enough to comment here." oh, it's far from a xtian blog, and it may not even be an overly xtian commentariat...but it's certainly a typically xtian environment of hatred and exclusion when considering the most vocally abusive members here. it's really very simple give-and-take, and i have to wonder what kind of insular environments you internet napoleons live in that you haven't learned that when you use someone as a collective punching bag for a week straight, he might just eventually get tired of it and snap back. ...and that's when you're suddenly concerned about civility. what-the-fuck-ever. "So, kindness is not an innate characteristic of your behavior but a skill learned for the purpose of being a manipulative asshole to those you deem worthy." hay, at least i practice kindness...unlike the people you are purportedly defending from my audacity in fighting back to defend myself. your conspicuous lack of tut-tutting at any of the people who have been jumping nasty on me all week makes it clear that "innate behaviour" is the least of your concerns. you guys who are suddenly concerned about how "mean" i am are just mob-minded bullies who can't fucking stand it when someone dares to fight back after a week of playing the obama voodoo doll for the same election i'm pissed about losing. there's a word for that.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 13, 2012 09:30 PM (79EF9)

539 Anyone heard of the new hot toy?

Fist Me Elmo

Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2012 09:30 PM (wwsoB)

540

hmm, now what political group does that sound like?

Democrats?

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 13, 2012 09:31 PM (+9AX9)

541 bebe, my mom died almost 2 years ago. She was 93 at the time. You'll get through it all.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 13, 2012 09:33 PM (jLiVY)

542 Nobody answered me earlier but has anyone heard from sassy about her election night party?

Posted by: concrete girl at November 13, 2012 09:36 PM (y2Ojs)

543 it's certainly a typically xtian environment of hatred and exclusion

It is a wonder how anyone here could ever get the impression you're a condescending holier-than-thou shitbag.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 09:36 PM (bdZaM)

544 I will leave you with this simple fact that will continue to beat you for the next 4 years....OBAMA will try to destroy you...he and his minions are committed to the establishment of a COMMIE construct and the destruction of AMERICA as we have known it. This last election cycle (rigged as it was) proves it. Anyone who thinks otherwise....might think about moving to Canada. OR.......

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 13, 2012 09:39 PM (7Ukq0)

545
It is a wonder how anyone here could ever get the impression you're a condescending holier-than-thou shitbag.

*****

I have no problem with the use of 'Xtian' but HE thinks it is grating to us and employs it to that end.

Jackass.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 09:40 PM (piMMO)

546 So the atheists and agnostics here call you a e.g. cock sucker because they're just like Christians? Ooookay. But thanks for the passive-aggressive admission that using "christian" regarding the HQ was stupid when you should have used the slightly-less-stupid-to-your-point "conservative".

Posted by: andycanuck at November 13, 2012 09:41 PM (nkiQM)

547
you guys who are suddenly concerned about how "mean" i am are just mob-minded bullies who can't fucking stand it when someone dares to fight back after a week of playing the obama voodoo doll for the same election i'm pissed about losing.

there's a word for that.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 14, 2012 01:30 AM (79EF9)

We aren't concerned about how mean you seem to think you are. Actually, we aren't concerned about you at all. If you didn't post here for a while, the morons wouldn't be wondering if you were ok, they would just be happy you had left.

And we in the States have a word for people like you, "Eurotrash".

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 13, 2012 09:42 PM (Ohhk6)

548 Now be nice, Waterhouse - shitbags at least serve a practical purpose like keeping the floor clean ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 09:42 PM (gh+mp)

549 That jimi swings a mean verbal purse, doesn't he?

Posted by: BignJames at November 13, 2012 09:42 PM (HtUkt)

550 And we in the States have a word for people like you, "Eurotrash". Posted by: MrCaniac at November 14, 2012 01:42 AM (Ohhk6) Heh.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 13, 2012 09:43 PM (X3lox)

551 hay, at least i practice kindness

Never saw an example of that. There is an example upthread where you very UNkind. But you were provoked. Poor you.

Posted by: fluffy at November 13, 2012 09:44 PM (z9HTb)

552 leave jimi ray alllllooooooooonnnnne !!!!

Posted by: andi sullivan at November 13, 2012 09:45 PM (wwsoB)

553 Posted by: jimi ray at November 14, 2012 01:20 AM (79EF9) You see, that entire meaningless rant was pure ignorant, unperceptive dribble, based on ignoring what I said. And that's how you started here ON DAY ONE, and the entire time you have been trying to play the passive-aggressive victim, which might have worked for five seconds except for one tiny detail. You forgot the passive part. You just opened anal-expressive and stayed there, and then feebly tried to play victim. Assuming it's not all just some sick pathetic troll mind-game, you could learn a huge lesson from what I normally tell people about the trolls around here (and they ignore, so that doesn't make you special). Water off a duck's back. If you don't go off like a meth-addled Roman Candle every time someone pokes you with a twig, you would stop being a figure of fun. Although in your case that might take a while, you've become a legend. Again, I reiterate, it's not that you're gay, it's not that you're "different," it's that you're a humorless asshole. And you're a humorless asshole because you aren't funny and you misinterpret humor and you aggressively and deliberately irritate people, not because of some invented sociopathology used to cope with the invincibly superior other. And I'm not condescending, I'm just not coddling you. You clearly have native intelligence, but your ability to cope with social cues is either damaged or lying fallow because you'd rather get yourself all worked up into a lather about everything, and, failing that, stir some shit and make yourself a target so you *can* work yourself up into an indignant lather. Plenty of people here have different ideas from the majority, including me. And yet somehow we manage not to completely and permanently alienate the shit out of virtually everyone with long, drawn-out side-topic rants, humorless and personal insults, and 5-gallon bucketloads of butthurt. Also, I'm not a Christian. I don't know where you get your ridiculous ideas, but if they have a return policy, take advantage of it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 09:46 PM (bxiXv)

554 jimi ray, turning each ONT into an episode of "Glee"

Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2012 09:48 PM (wwsoB)

555 When debt is forgiven you have to pay taxes on it as 1099 income (just FYI).

Posted by: angienc at November 13, 2012 09:49 PM (w3JGl)

556 All of you need to huff some good indica and chill.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 13, 2012 09:49 PM (/nqdo)

557 When debt is forgiven you have to pay taxes on it as 1099 income (just FYI).

****

Except for mortgages, at least until the beginning of the year.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 09:50 PM (piMMO)

558

For all of you that thinks CHRISTIANS are the problem......let me tell ya

we WILL be the answer and you all will thank us for it...and we will not THROW you to the commie lions.........think about that....

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 13, 2012 09:50 PM (7Ukq0)

559 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 14, 2012 01:46 AM (bxiXv)

Damn! He can just save that and save himself from paying for years of therapy.

Posted by: fluffy at November 13, 2012 09:50 PM (z9HTb)

560 Anyway, back to the Toyota thing, wasn't someone on the 'Q buying an FR-S? I'm interested in hearing how/if they're enjoying it ...

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 09:50 PM (bdZaM)

561 SFGoth at November 14, 2012 01:49 AM (/nqdo) I read that last word as chili ... must be thinking about Thanksgiving menu again ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 09:51 PM (gh+mp)

562 This is a Christian blog? Well hot damn shit

Posted by: Bucky Goldstein at November 13, 2012 09:52 PM (wwsoB)

563 And I'm not *really* engaging the troll, I'm just keeping in practice for the Nerd Road Warrior Future where mortal combat is conducted in terms of NerdRage.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 09:52 PM (bxiXv)

564 <<can't go wrong with a Toyota except for maybe a Prius >>

I am convinced the Prius is an ingenious marketing ploy. I know four people who own a Prius and rave about them...except all they rave about is gas mileage. That's it...no mention of comfort, quiet ride, great handling, durability, etc. etc. JUST MILEAGE! Finally, my aunt broke down and said she couldn't understand why her Prius wasn't getting the fuel mileage she was "promised". She drives on a freeway for thirty miles each way in her daily commute, right around 70 mph. I explained to her the "great" mileage only occurs at city speeds when the electric motor does most of the work; usually 35 mph or less. When I asked her what her freeway mileage was I almost spewed my soda through my nose:

17 mi./gallon.

I am convinced Toyota markets the Prius solely to deluded lefties who refuse to look at their actual mileage and just tell themselves how awesome they are. And then there's the ridiculously expensive battery...

Posted by: Sgt. York at November 13, 2012 09:52 PM (yk8/j)

565 Don't ever go to Deadwood, jimi.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4D3UdxM3OU

Posted by: andycanuck at November 13, 2012 09:52 PM (nkiQM)

566 THRU THE LOOKING GLASS....hope ya all are ready.....bang, bang, BOOM,BOOM!!

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 13, 2012 09:53 PM (7Ukq0)

567 Oh, BTW, #565 NOT safe for work.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 13, 2012 09:53 PM (nkiQM)

568 This is a Christian blog? Well hot damn shit Posted by: Bucky Goldstein at November 14, 2012 01:52 AM (wwsoB) That's okay. We Jews are grandfathered in.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 13, 2012 09:53 PM (X3lox)

569 "Democrats?" that's what i was getting at. "I have no problem with the use of 'Xtian' but HE thinks it is grating to us and employs it to that end." uh, nope, try again. it's because i'm an awful typist who doesn't use his pinkies and, in most cases, his ring fingers, so words like "christ" and "unfortuantely" (SEE that's how it always comes out) tend to be troublesome. if there were a similarly accessible abbreviation for the latter, i'd use it, too. like i've said before, i don't have anything against xtians, since i'm marrying one. the thing i have difficulty wrapping my head around is the BLATANT xtian hypocrisy. you'd think you might at least lay off the abusive obscenity when you're claiming a religion whose second greatest commandment is "love thy neighbour as thyself", but what do i know? "Jackass." ...wwjd? gotcha. "We aren't concerned about how mean you seem to think you are. Actually, we aren't concerned about you at all." oh, yeah, you guys aren't concerned about me at all. that must be why i regularly come into threads that i haven't in posted in yet and ctrl+f my name to find some inappropriate insult that totally misses my actual views. that must be why my perennial fan club takes any opportunity to attack me, even in an ont when all i've done is say you can't put all the blame on kids whose colleges are taking advatange of them. that must be why its routine for people i have no awareness of and have never interacted with to jump on the "cool kids" bandwagon and try their own hand at "pin the insult on jimi ghey"? that must be why you guys turn two-dozen-deep on me when i make a single post responding in kind to the nastiness that's been lobbed my way all week, suddenly hand-wringing about just how horrifying is[/is] this cruelty and nastiness that you've been ignoring all week when it's aimed at someone you don't like? yeah, you guys, like, aren't obsessed with me at all. /rolleyes

Posted by: jimi ray at November 13, 2012 09:54 PM (79EF9)

570 <<237 I'm absolutely thrilled to tell you my Romney/Ryan yardsigns arrived today in the mail. I shit you not.>>

I believe you.

My wife bought me an overpriced T-Shirt from the Romney campaign with a Reagan quote on it. It was deliberately overpriced because proceeds went to the Romney/Ryan campaign. I intended to wear the shirt on election day. Wife ordered it October 1st.

It arrived today.

Posted by: Sgt. York at November 13, 2012 09:54 PM (yk8/j)

571 "Jackass."

...wwjd? gotcha.

*****

See, this is the...

Oh, fuck it.

Who cares?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 09:55 PM (piMMO)

572 WEAR IT!!

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 13, 2012 09:56 PM (7Ukq0)

573 561 SFGoth at November 14, 2012 01:49 AM (/nqdo)

I read that last word as chili ... must be thinking about Thanksgiving menu again ... Posted by: Adriane

Or you have the munchies.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 13, 2012 09:56 PM (/nqdo)

574 dang ... not going to last the next 100 ... Roses are red, Sharks have big teeth, Anger is for losers, Just smile whilst they seethe ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 09:57 PM (gh+mp)

575 a religion whose second greatest commandment is "love thy neighbour as thyself"

I'd prefer not to do that. I really love myself something special.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 13, 2012 09:58 PM (/nqdo)

576 yeah, you guys, like, aren't obsessed with me at all.

Have you EVER been on a thread which you did NOT attempt to threadjack and turn it to your favorite subject?

Posted by: fluffy at November 13, 2012 10:00 PM (z9HTb)

577 Repressive bunch, ain't we?

Posted by: BignJames at November 13, 2012 10:00 PM (HtUkt)

578 it's certainly a typically xtian environment of hatred and exclusion

i don't have anything against xtians

At some point, you may want to point that Acme Exquisitely-Sensitive Hypocrisy Detector on yourself.

Be sure to dial 911 first.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 10:00 PM (bdZaM)

579 Everyone says it's because Toyotas are most of the cars on the road. That's not even remotely true. I don't know where that comes from, but Auto statistics online are AFU. My Wild Ass Guess is that Toyotas sold about 170k out of 1.2 million total sales over the last year. That won't be continuous going back in time, but unless 1 million of those were Ladas, I don't see Toyota being a majority of anything. It's not that big a deal, I just have a pet peeve about *really* obviously wrong ideas. Especially if I hear them a lot. Maybe I'm the Weird Toyota Driver Magnet. Someone else is probably the Weird Ford Driver Magnet.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 10:01 PM (bxiXv)

580 Oh, gee. Is Jimi Ray being a condescending asshole again?

Unexpectedly...

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 13, 2012 10:01 PM (uoA/0)

581

574

I sooth in hot baths with my toes pampered rubbed in hot rocks from the Nevolie-ToT flume gates ....south "o" france......I "SIGH."

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 13, 2012 10:01 PM (7Ukq0)

582 I'd prefer not to do that. I really love myself something special.

Please remember to pull the blinds.

Posted by: fluffy at November 13, 2012 10:02 PM (z9HTb)

583 I am convinced Toyota markets the Prius solely to deluded lefties who refuse to look at their actual mileage and just tell themselves how awesome they are. Posted by: Sgt. York at November 14, 2012 01:52 AM (yk8/j) NO, RLY?!?!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 10:03 PM (bxiXv)

584 I'd prefer not to do that. I really love myself something special. Please remember to pull the blinds. And sing Whitney Houston loud enough for the neighbors to take warning ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 10:04 PM (gh+mp)

585 Assuming it's not all just some sick pathetic troll mind-game...
Posted by: Merovignp

There was another option?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 13, 2012 10:04 PM (uoA/0)

586 Maybe I'm the Weird Toyota Driver Magnet. Someone else is probably the Weird Ford Driver Magnet.

Buick and Subaru for me. They seem to make people drive stupid.

Posted by: fluffy at November 13, 2012 10:04 PM (z9HTb)

587 Well, back in the ignore box for the perennially self-interested ignorant self-righteous hypocritical ego-surfing long-winded unperceptive Church Of The Perpetually Aggrieved passive-aggressive jerk.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 10:06 PM (bxiXv)

588 lol. i'm well-aware that everyone here hates me because my views are a little different from the hard line in the sand.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 14, 2012 01:20 AM

Jimi, dial it back a bit. Just make with the funny and political observations and you should be good to go. It's somebody else's party, here and I suspect it's not a high brow one. Just roll with it and pick your conversations. I don't give a shit if you're gay, if someone likes to bang tranny hookers or theyre into LSD/crack cocktails. Just don't get uptight when someone cracks wise. Don't push a dodgy topic if you don't want to get bit. Common ground and all that.

Posted by: otho at November 13, 2012 10:06 PM (yBF/9)

589 I am convinced Toyota markets the Prius solely to deluded lefties who refuse to look at their actual mileage and just tell themselves how awesome they are.

Posted by: Sgt. York at November 14, 2012 01:52 AM (yk8/j)

Actually they are marketed to people like jimi who like to be in airtight cars so that they can smell their own farts.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 13, 2012 10:06 PM (Ohhk6)

590 Hey Kids

SSDD I see. How peachy. Mind if I just ignore the bullshit? No? Good. Thanks.

Posted by: jc at November 13, 2012 10:08 PM (ufJKx)

591 There is the mud baths just outside Palm Springs....but I hear that the older clients sometimes ....well lose control of their bowels...in the mud...and...well you know....not my first pick......jus saying........

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 13, 2012 10:08 PM (7Ukq0)

592 There was another option? Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 14, 2012 02:04 AM (uoA/0) Yeah, borderline Aspie (from the other side) who thought, because of all the interesting side discussion here, that we'd be receptive to spittle-flecked academic rants. When there was pushback because of the horribly broken response to social cues, he went madly passive-aggressive, and in typical pseudo-autistic fashion, can't get out of that mode as long as the stimulus exists. Simple, really.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 10:09 PM (bxiXv)

593 Mind if I just ignore the bullshit?

Not much thread left if you use that particular filter.

Posted by: fluffy at November 13, 2012 10:09 PM (z9HTb)

594 Jimi,

Everyone will eventually meet a complete, thorough asshole at some point in their life. Some will have the misfortune of meeting two of those unmitigated pieces of work in their life.

When you meet three, you're the asshole.

Posted by: Dancing Troll [/i] [/b] at November 13, 2012 10:10 PM (uoA/0)

595 Mortal combat? Thought JR only engaged in morally-outraged combat.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 10:10 PM (nByYy)

596 Hey jc - The post paint removal clean up was almost as amusing as the paint removal. We had Thai take out, though ... Fans going, windows open, pretty sure the room is dry, just going for over kill ... Patch carpet tack holes, KLNZ, and paint... Stay warm up there ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 10:10 PM (gh+mp)

597 Someone HAS to ring the bell on this thread.....I FEEL it!

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 13, 2012 10:11 PM (7Ukq0)

598 My Wild Ass Guess is that Toyotas sold about 170k out of 1.2 million total sales over the last year.

Without looking it up, total US auto sales are in the 12-14 million range.

Toyota has the best-selling car (Camry), somewhere around 300k, but would cream its pants if it got anywhere close to GM or Ford's pickup sales of over 500k.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 10:11 PM (bdZaM)

599 Someone HAS to ring the bell on this thread.....I FEEL it!
Ring! Ring! Ring!

Posted by: crichton ringing his bell and pointing at harry reid at November 13, 2012 10:12 PM (nkiQM)

600 Now that's some fucked-up formatting.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 10:12 PM (bdZaM)

601 Is jimi threadjacking again? Knock me over with a feather boa.

Just got back from a nice dinner. Delmonico ribeye with a baked tater and a trip to the salad bar -- except after eating from the salad bar I was too full for the steak.

Man, it sucks getting old, but not nearly as much as being jimi ray.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2012 10:13 PM (ccXZP)

602 Toot, toot, toot.

Let's dance!

Posted by: Dancing Troll [/i] [/b] at November 13, 2012 10:13 PM (uoA/0)

603 Jimi, dial it back a bit. Posted by: otho at November 14, 2012 02:06 AM (yBF/9) Congratulations! As the one millionth caller to give Jimi that advice, you have won a free local phone call* to the number of your choice! * Some restrictions may apply, offer not valid in Hong Kong or Namibia.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 10:13 PM (bxiXv)

604

I'd prefer not to do that. I really love myself something special.

Please remember to pull the blinds.

Take your time, but remember the neighbors are watching.

Blinds up, blinds down..

Up, down, up, down, up, down..

Aw shit! Now I got to clean up again

Posted by: dDan at November 13, 2012 10:15 PM (q1RJB)

605

601

Hey if ya remember...

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 13, 2012 10:15 PM (7Ukq0)

606 Hey Adriane

Mentioning Thai takeout and paint remover in the same breath certainly opens the door to many interesting concepts. Was it "Curry in a Hurry?"

warming up a little cuz it wants to snow. it is shovel season again.

Posted by: jc at November 13, 2012 10:16 PM (ufJKx)

607 Congratulations! As the one millionth caller to give Jimi that advice, you have won a free local phone call* to the number of your choice!

* Some restrictions may apply, offer not valid in Hong Kong or Namibia.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 14, 2012 02:13 AM

Damn, the Hong Kong trannies are the best.

Posted by: otho at November 13, 2012 10:17 PM (yBF/9)

608 The Japanese manufacturers are shitting bricks over their Chinese sales, though.

I'm sure your average Chinese auto purchaser could explain exactly why the Senkaku islands made them avoid buying a Honda, of course.

It certainly wasn't some fucking apparatchik pointing a metaphorical gun to his head.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 10:18 PM (bdZaM)

609 Without looking it up, total US auto sales are in the 12-14 million range. Toyota has the best-selling car (Camry), somewhere around 300k, but would cream its pants if it got anywhere close to GM or Ford's pickup sales of over 500k. Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 02:11 AM (bdZaM) Like I said, online statistics are freaking hash. WSJ says 12 million, I don't even remember where I got my information, wish I did so I could smack 'em. WSJ says 1.7 mil Toyota, now, you may notice those are *EXACTLY* ten times the figure I found earlier, which means whoever wrote that other article effed up the decimal point. Speaking of missing obvious errors in figures, HERE I AM!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 10:18 PM (bxiXv)

610 except after eating from the salad bar I was too full for the steak.

Man, it sucks getting old, but not nearly as much as being jimi ray.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 14, 2012 02:13 AM (ccXZP)

=====

geezer trick -- order it rare, take it home in a box. grill it at your leisure.

Posted by: jc at November 13, 2012 10:18 PM (ufJKx)

611 no ... the Thai take out was the bribe the helpful friend ... pad thai, Bar-b-q Thai chicken, Royal Curry w/potatoes. If it hadn't been take out, I'd have thrown some coconut ice cream on top ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 10:19 PM (gh+mp)

612 PS as they're both 10x the figure, the ratios are the same.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 10:19 PM (bxiXv)

613

O.K...must submit to sleep....

night to all M and M's

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 13, 2012 10:20 PM (7Ukq0)

614 WWTHQD? Besides get drunk and look at porn of course

Posted by: Zakn at November 13, 2012 10:21 PM (LbwgI)

615 RICHARD!! at November 14, 2012 02:20 AM (7Ukq0) and you'll like it!!!

Posted by: sleep at November 13, 2012 10:21 PM (gh+mp)

616 Violets are blue, Roses are red, Time for me too, To shuffle off to bed ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 13, 2012 10:23 PM (gh+mp)

617 Night Adraine....

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 13, 2012 10:26 PM (7Ukq0)

618 Night, Adriane. Sleep the sleep of people with dry paint.

Posted by: jc at November 13, 2012 10:27 PM (ufJKx)

619 17 mpg for a Prius on the highway seems awfully low. I don't think even the thrashers at Car and Driver get down to that.

But there's definitely a massive disconnect between the Obama-certified byzantinely-massaged "CAFE" fuel economy numbers the lying fuck will try to impress a credulous public with, and how many actual miles you'll be able to travel with your four, five or six bucks of gasoline.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 10:28 PM (bdZaM)

620 ADRIANE......drunk spelling....and doing ORIGAMI oil filters for SMART CARS...for money of course......

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 13, 2012 10:30 PM (7Ukq0)

621 619 17 mpg for a Prius on the highway seems awfully low. I don't think even the thrashers at Car and Driver get down to that. Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 02:28 AM (bdZaM) Top Gear got much lower - but she probably wasn't being chased by an M3.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 10:31 PM (bxiXv)

622

Amusing read for the last 100 comments or so, nice going morons.

And good night.

Posted by: Meremortal at November 13, 2012 10:32 PM (1Y+hH)

623 The CAFE numbers, for instance, are only marginally-related to the EPA (I think) sticker number posted on the side of a new car. Which is itself only marginally-related to what you as a human will achieve in driving your vehicle in a manner which doesn't infuriate your fellow motorist.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 10:32 PM (bdZaM)

624 Yay, about to start writing the kinky death scene in story.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 10:41 PM (nByYy)

625 Top Gear got much lower

Heh, yeah, I remember that now that you mention it. They were doing laps around the test track for that comparison.

Funny stuff.

I guess my only point is that 99.99999% of drivers don't go about their daily commute like Clarkson wringing out a 3-series on a closed course.

When the fuck does the new Top Gear season start anyway?

Lazy Euro fucks.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 10:42 PM (bdZaM)

626 624 Yay, about to start writing the kinky death scene in story. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 14, 2012 02:41 AM (nByYy) Umm, hurrah for you?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 10:45 PM (bxiXv)

627 Something like that. Once I get past this scene I hope my sanity can recover.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 13, 2012 10:47 PM (nByYy)

628 Since I'm talking to myself here, after being disappointed yet again in the latest Mythbusters episode (makes it a clean sweep of ennui this season), I went back and watched a few shows from the earlier seasons to try and find out what might have changed.

I guess what I liked about those earlier years is that it was more Junkyard Wars-ish, in that they took more time to explain and show what they were building to test the myth in question.

The past little while, it's all seemed to emphasize the fluff and ex-plo-si-ons.

Not even Kari's rack in a tank top can compensate for that.

All things must come to pass, I guess.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 10:50 PM (bdZaM)

629 kinky death scene

Oooh, does it involve an oddly-muscular female biographer?

Posted by: certainly not General Petraeus (ret) at November 13, 2012 10:53 PM (bdZaM)

630 "This is a Christian blog? Well hot damn shit" lol. for the record: i never said this was a "xtian blog"! the commentariat -- at least that most vocal in-group that is quick to band together to insult those who deviate oh-so-minutely from hard-line conservative philosophy -- is at least xtian in plurality...likely even in majority...and it seems like the motivations for some of the most prevalent obscene insults and attacks are fired from the barrels of nominally xtian viewpoints. e.g., it's amazing how quickly the insults pile up at the expense of any newcomer claiming atheism, or those who would afford non-abortifacient emergency contraception to rape victims...the gay marriage thing, which so many folks are happy to inject into discussions that have nothing to do with the issue. i could just be wearing e-blinders, but i don't think so (then again, that's what blinders do >.>). either way, let's be serious: lots of people have been piling on me all week in a way reminiscent of when i first came to the blog. i made one nasty response, and all of the sudden, some two-dozen-strong corps of civility-police crawls out of the woodwork suddenly concerned about "assholes"? rly? rly rly rly? it would be nice if the hypocritical fake-outrage over Insults Coming Only From Jackson And No One Else Ever were toned down a notch or eleven. sometimes people who are insulted insult back...and sometimes, they're just better at being nasty x.X

Posted by: jimi ray at November 13, 2012 10:55 PM (79EF9)

631 628 ... Not even Kari's rack in a tank top can compensate for that. Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 02:50 AM (bdZaM) must have been a really bad episode ...

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 13, 2012 10:57 PM (jts1f)

632 ~~Jackson~~ Jimi Ray jackson is my name at another site!!!! i've been tabbing between the two, so i just got confused!!!!!! @.@

Posted by: jimi ray at November 13, 2012 10:58 PM (79EF9)

633 hay, gotta take what you can get, right?

Posted by: jimi ray at November 14, 2012 12:34 AM (79EF9)

jimiray you are full of shit. hay is not spelled correctly, dummy, it's hey!

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 13, 2012 11:01 PM (adaoe)

634 All things must come to pass, I guess. Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 02:50 AM (bdZaM) I kind of enjoyed earlier stuff, but honestly there's a dumpster-load of stupid on that show. It's not just carelessness, which they have in spades, a lot of their shit is very loose on the science-and-reason front. Which would not be so bad if they kept up the alternate "we don't really know what we're doing here" thing instead of the "IT'S SCIENCE" thing.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 11:01 PM (bxiXv)

635 I love everybody

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:01 PM (XDC0v)

636 Posted by: jimi ray at November 14, 2012 02:55 AM (79EF9) I am agnostic and posted multiple times on the subject without any backlash of any kind. Of course, in the course of making my points about morality sans religion, I did not insult those who find comfort and/or strength or even just community through religion. You may want to tone it down a bit if you do not want the horde to pile on. It is possible to disagree without being disagreeable.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 13, 2012 11:02 PM (jts1f)

637 must have been a really bad episode ...

I rewound and it still didn't help.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 11:02 PM (XWSLE)

638 wow, military under full attack because of the obama administration, who would have thunk it?

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 13, 2012 11:03 PM (adaoe)

639 Which would not be so bad if they kept up the alternate "we don't really know what we're doing here" thing instead of the "IT'S SCIENCE" thing.

Yeah, that's pretty annoying, the "how dare you question me, I'm being scientolific" subtext.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 11:06 PM (XWSLE)

640

Yay, about to start writing the kinky death scene in story.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 14, 2012 02:41 AM

John Carradine style? Or, will it be a grittier, power drill and boiling water Dahmeresque affair?

Posted by: otho at November 13, 2012 11:08 PM (yBF/9)

641 I mean 4 people on this thread have claimed that everyone hates jimi and so has he. Why wasn't I consulted on this platform?

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:09 PM (XDC0v)

642 641 I mean 4 people on this thread have claimed that everyone hates jimi and so has he. Why wasn't I consulted on this platform? Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 03:09 AM (XDC0v) Everybody hates you too. Sorry.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 11:10 PM (bxiXv)

643 638 wow, military under full attackbecause ofthe obama administration, who would have thunk it? Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 14, 2012 03:03 AM (adaoe) I would have thought the fact that the guy who was catalogging Obama's scandals gave up in 2011 at over 300 would have been a warning sign.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 11:11 PM (bxiXv)

644

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 14, 2012 03:11 AM (bxiXv)

Yep

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 13, 2012 11:12 PM (adaoe)

645 Well thanks Mero but you might wanna check around- you might not wanna play popularity contest with me- but then why would you want to? Protip: I'm not jimi

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:12 PM (XDC0v)

646 The whole "we're experts, you stupid rubes, don't try this shit at home!" disclaimers the Mythbusters have displayed for the past few years, for instance.

Then they admit they shot a fucking cannonball into a residential neighborhood, but don't reveal how they could possibly have fucked up so badly.

OK, then.

Science.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 11:13 PM (XWSLE)

647 635 I love everybody

Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 03:01 AM (XDC0v)

You lie

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 13, 2012 11:13 PM (adaoe)

648 And I'm kidding exactly as much as you were- exactly!

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:14 PM (XDC0v)

649 I didn't say I LIKED everybody...

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:14 PM (XDC0v)

650 649 I didn't say I LIKED everybody...

Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 03:14 AM (XDC0v)

Well you are lying on this comment also.

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 13, 2012 11:15 PM (adaoe)

651 Why wasn't I consulted on this platform?

You were probably scrubbing down your impeccable white destrier for another charge against the Evil Disparagers of Your Man Jimi-ray when the vote was taken.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 11:17 PM (XWSLE)

652 So I DID say I liked everybody? Ahhrrrmmm... that your best?

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:17 PM (XDC0v)

653 652 So I DID say I liked everybody? Ahhrrrmmm... that your best?

Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 03:17 AM (XDC0v)

Yeah, pretty much.

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 13, 2012 11:19 PM (adaoe)

654 645 Well thanks Mero but you might wanna check around- you might not wanna play popularity contest with me- but then why would you want to? Protip: I'm not jimi Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 03:12 AM (XDC0v) Protip: You have the same sense of humor.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 11:19 PM (bxiXv)

655 Waterhouse I give you +5 for teaching me a bad-ass word tonight. I not only love you I like you

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:19 PM (XDC0v)

656 Ooooohhhh... the old "I was just kidding"? Lou wants my attention... I'm flattered but spoken for

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:21 PM (XDC0v)

657 Except, of course, not as intelligent as Jimi.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 11:22 PM (bxiXv)

658

Oh shit, I think I lost the popularity contest.

Was I entered in it?

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 13, 2012 11:22 PM (adaoe)

659 Hey jimi you ever take the GRE??? Did you mero?

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:23 PM (XDC0v)

660 I give you +5 for the kind of self-delusion required to pretend you're super-popular, DAve.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 11:23 PM (XWSLE)

661 656 Ooooohhhh... the old "I was just kidding"? Lou wants my attention... I'm flattered but spoken for

Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 03:21 AM (XDC0v)

OMG, he likes me, he really really likes me!

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 13, 2012 11:23 PM (adaoe)

662 I'm far from super-popular. Only with those of discriminating taste...

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:24 PM (XDC0v)

663 659 Hey jimi you ever take the GRE??? Did you mero? Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 03:23 AM (XDC0v) You see, Jimi has this big, complicated, drawn out emotional issues and passive-aggressive construct thing going on. You, you're just childish bluster and low-effort jabs. Kind of like Palin Steele. Since we're making comparisons.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 11:24 PM (bxiXv)

664 No one's as intelligent as jimi.

That's why aircraft routinely crash for failing to take into account the geoid.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 11:25 PM (XWSLE)

665 Wow mero. Question my intelligence and then accuse me of making "low-effort jabs". I think jimi has your number

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:26 PM (XDC0v)

666 665 Wow mero. Question my intelligence and then accuse me of making "low-effort jabs". I think jimi has your number Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 03:26 AM (XDC0v) You see what I mean? Boring. Predictable. Simple. No real effort.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 11:28 PM (bxiXv)

667

Coming from someone whos misspells "Dark Lord of the Shit" with disturbing regularity...

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:29 PM (XDC0v)

668 Show me a reason to try harder, Dork Lord

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:30 PM (XDC0v)

669 Things not going so well for you lately

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:30 PM (XDC0v)

670 Wow, *that* was creative. It would be like a fistfight with a five-year-old. Easy, but unethical.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 11:31 PM (bxiXv)

671 My question, why are all the dems so pissed off at the election? They are really so angry, why? Your guy won!

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 13, 2012 11:33 PM (adaoe)

672 Fully. Only day you ever outsmarted me was when you fell asleep naked facedown on jimi's couch. jimi are you taking notes?

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:34 PM (XDC0v)

673 671 My question, why are all the dems so pissed off at the election? They are really so angry, why? Your guy won! Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 14, 2012 03:33 AM (adaoe) Some of them probably understand what that means, at a subconscious level. Or they're getting that feeling that says "wait, *I'm* the other guy in 'we cheat the other guy and pass the savings on to you!'"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 11:35 PM (bxiXv)

674

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 14, 2012 03:35 AM (bxiXv)

Yep

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 13, 2012 11:37 PM (adaoe)

675 Hadn't experienced that, lou- now that you mention it all the obama voters have been conspicuously quiet and all I've heard is disappointment of Romneyites. Mero may be right

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:39 PM (XDC0v)

676 My question, why are all the dems so pissed off at the election? They are really so angry, why? Your guy won!

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 14, 2012 03:33 AM

Stalker rage. They've invested a lot of lust in Barry and think that he owes them a hard, sweaty buggering. But Barry doesn't seem all that into them. So, they're going all stocking mask and heavy blunt object.

Posted by: otho at November 13, 2012 11:40 PM (yBF/9)

677 I'm not getting any gloating either. Totally unlike '08.

Posted by: osoloco at November 13, 2012 11:40 PM (E4lzX)

678 Stalker rage. They've invested a lot of lust in Barry and think that he owes them a hard, sweatybuggering. But Barry doesn't seem all that into them. So, they're going all stocking mask and heavy blunt object.

Posted by: otho at November 14, 2012 03:40 AM (yBF/9)

Ok, you made me laugh. Good stuff.

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 13, 2012 11:43 PM (adaoe)

679 There's been gloating, but they couldn't keep the schadenboner up. Now, that might be an intellectual awakening to a larger reality, or, it could just be performance issues.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 11:45 PM (bxiXv)

680 jimi are you taking notes?

Jimi, the most intelligent AoSHQ commenter of all time and space, is frantically trying to calculate why aircraft crashes aren't correlating with geoid position.

Also, why he can press the shift key for fucked-up smilies, but not regular English.

Why are you interrupting him, DAve?

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 11:47 PM (fF5sa)

681 Are you some kind of homophobe, DAve?

Stop questioning jimi-ray, you ass.

He's pure as the driven geoid.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 11:48 PM (fF5sa)

682 Waterhouse you want your turn now?

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:52 PM (XDC0v)

683 Come, come, Mr. DAve. You derive just as much pleasure from trolling as jimi-ray does.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 11:54 PM (fF5sa)

684 Nah, the explanation of geoid I read said that the gravitational field of the earth is not perfect. I reject that statement purely on Christian grounds.

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:55 PM (XDC0v)

685 675 Hadn't experienced that, lou- now that you mention it all the obama voters have been conspicuously quiet and all I've heard is disappointment of Romneyites. Mero may be right

Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 03:39 AM (XDC0v)

And DAve spells conspicuously

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 13, 2012 11:56 PM (adaoe)

686 Try and do it real, DAve.

Sometimes you trend to, you know, sort of, crank it up a bit.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 13, 2012 11:56 PM (fF5sa)

687 I have never once trolled nor have I ever seen jimi do so. Not to say it never happened but I haven't seen it. Is Waterhouse a contraction of Water Closet and Outhouse?

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 11:57 PM (XDC0v)

688 I think people resent the personification of perfect nonchalance

Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 12:00 AM (XDC0v)

689 Oh, God, it's like watching Inspector Clouseau fly-fishing.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 14, 2012 12:00 AM (bxiXv)

690 the explanation of geoid I read said that the gravitational field of the earth is not perfect.

Thank you for clarifying that you are exactly as much of a fucking retard as jimi-ray.

No one pretends the geoid is perfect.

You fucking retard.

Only jimi-ray pretends that it has a significant effect on fucking aerodynamics.

Would you like to collect your shinebox now, or after you've finished choking on your own incredible STUPIDITY?

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:00 AM (fF5sa)

691

Sex scandal my ass, wtf, Clinton buggers an intern, but the military cannot have consential sex?

Yeah, the fix is in!!

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 14, 2012 12:02 AM (adaoe)

692 Now we are supposed to be interested in a sex scandal?

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 14, 2012 12:04 AM (adaoe)

693 Theologically I was making the point that the world and the universe were exactly as God desired them to be, thus perfect. Shoulda explained it with sockpuppets, I guess. I'm FIFTY times the retard jimi is. School me, waterboy-

Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 12:05 AM (XDC0v)

694 I guess it's up to me to congratulate Mero on the snag

Posted by: zeera at November 14, 2012 12:05 AM (Lv9bM)

695 Quick, DAve, find out how much the geoid varies from sea level!

Oh shit!

It's not as godawfully significant as Your Hero Jimi-Ray asserted!

Whatever will you do?

Wherever will you go?

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:06 AM (fF5sa)

696 Yeah, the fix is in!! Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 14, 2012 04:02 AM (adaoe) Fire sale. Everything must go. Aaaaaand be replaced by more "reliable" elements. Aaaaaand they can hold the Generals' retirements over their heads to control testimony. Aaaaaand the MFM can continue with the cover-up.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 14, 2012 12:07 AM (bxiXv)

697 Aaaaaand the MFM can continue with the cover-up.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 14, 2012 04:07 AM (bxiXv)

Love ya, mean it!

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 14, 2012 12:09 AM (adaoe)

698 Yes, DAve, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

But someone insulted jimi-ray, so you had to ride to its defense.

Even though you knew fuck-all about what you were defending.

The important thing was, you could style yourself as a Heroic Defender.

The fact that you defending ultimate ignorance isn't important, is it?

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:09 AM (fF5sa)

699 694 I guess it's up to me to congratulate Mero on the snag Posted by: zeera at November 14, 2012 04:05 AM (Lv9bM) Well, thanks, but it's not like I solved the Poincare conjecture or anything.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 14, 2012 12:10 AM (bxiXv)

700 Theologically I was making the point that the world and the universe were exactly as God desired them to be, thus perfect. Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 04:05 AM (XDC0v) Theologically speaking, that's not true. Just for one simple counter-example, what do you think The Flood was for?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 14, 2012 12:10 AM (X3lox)

701 Love ya, mean it! Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 14, 2012 04:09 AM (adaoe) *smooch*

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 14, 2012 12:11 AM (bxiXv)

702 Hey Waterhouse I had almost absolutely no interest in the geoid as I missed that whole episode- I neither endorse nor condemn jimi's take, since I never saw it. Now it looks like something sorta interesting, but I'm in far too good of a mood tonight to look into it too deeply-

Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 12:11 AM (XDC0v)

703 Love ya, mean it! Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 14, 2012 04:09 AM (adaoe) *smooch* Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 14, 2012 04:11 AM (bxiXv) Get a room. Or, at least, share a comment box.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 14, 2012 12:12 AM (X3lox)

704 Night all.God Bless. And for all the dems. Lay in the bed you made. Hope it is comfy!!

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 14, 2012 12:14 AM (adaoe)

705 Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 04:11 AM (XDC0v)

Backpedal! OMG fucking BACKPEDAL!!!!

MOAR BACKPEDAL.

You disingenuous piece of shit.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:14 AM (fF5sa)

706 I neither endorse nor condemn jimi's take, since I never saw it. Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 04:11 AM (XDC0v) As if anyone would have to see the crap that jimi jimi is writing to know that it's unadulterated bullshit ... Just think of what you know about the turd and imagine it's doing it again.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 14, 2012 12:15 AM (X3lox)

707 How you got that I was defending jimi ray's opinions or understandings about the geoid I can't fathom- I still don't know what they are, or the counterarguments against them. POP I think that everything is all part of God's perfect plan, but this is a huge issue in theology and really I don't pretend to be real dogmatic about things like that which I haven't really studied enough or thought enough about.

Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 12:16 AM (XDC0v)

708 Where THE FUCK IS THE BACKPEDAL?

I was told these DeLoreans had one!?

You ignorant shitbird.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:17 AM (fF5sa)

709 Doc Brown, I'm gonna need moar than 1.21 "Jiggawatts" to defend my REFLEXIVE STUPIDITY!

Surely the DeLorean has a shift gate for that?

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:19 AM (fF5sa)

710 Waterhouse don't use terms like backpedal that you're proving by your usage you are unclear about. Sorry geoids are of such earth-shattering significance to you i guess but don't take it personal that I don't share that passion-

Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 12:20 AM (XDC0v)

711 don't pretend to be real dogmatic about things like that[i/]

No, no, you reflexively defend every last one of jimi-ray's comments.

Because of PERSECUTION.

Not dogma.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:20 AM (fF5sa)

712 POP I think that everything is all part of God's perfect plan, but this is a huge issue in theology and really I don't pretend to be real dogmatic about things like thatwhich I haven't really studied enough or thought enough about. Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 04:16 AM (XDC0v) But I just provided you with the simplest of counter-examples. Here's the actual text (the translation, at least) of the detail: Genesis 6:6-7 And it repented the LORD that He had made man on the earth, and it grieved Him at His heart. And the LORD said: 'I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and creeping thing, and fowl of the air; for it repenteth Me that I have made them.' Kind of an open and shut case on the Perfect Creation theory.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 14, 2012 12:21 AM (X3lox)

713 711 Waterhouse that is just a lie. You are who you are, and for that you have my pity. Get some sleep. If the truth was bad enough you wouldn't have to lie about it.

Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 12:26 AM (XDC0v)

714 that is just a lie.

Sure, you never come galloping in to save jimi-ray from what you perceive as unwarranted vitriol.

Except always.

Come, come, Mr. DAve.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:28 AM (fF5sa)

715 Appreciating your earnestness then POP I would ask you then is God a fuckup? Is he not omniscient, not knowing what will happen? What goes on that isn't how God made it? That's what I would have trouble with...

Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 12:28 AM (XDC0v)

716 Grief would lead one to believe God regretted a mistake or poor judgement He made. This doesn't seem to be consistent with what else we know about the attributes of God

Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 12:32 AM (XDC0v)

717 That's what I would have trouble with...

How amusing, if only you never pretended that your God Jimi-Ray was infallible ...

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:34 AM (fF5sa)

718 And therefore deemed all questioning of Jimi-Ray or His Motives beyond the pale.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:35 AM (fF5sa)

719 You really hate to have the White Knight "aspersion" cast against you, don't you, DAve?

How it burns.

Oh well.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:38 AM (fF5sa)

720 I just skimmed 6 commentaries on that passage and most seem to have the same problem with it I do

Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 12:39 AM (XDC0v)

721 This doesn't seem to be consistent with what else we know about the attributes of God

The world breathlessly awaits DAve's historical, UNPRECEDENTED, ruminations upon the nature of God.

Let fly, O genius!

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:41 AM (fF5sa)

722 Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 04:28 AM (XDC0v) Then you would have a problem with the concept of "free will", for a start. Where in the Old Testament is it ever even mentioned that G-d attempted to build a perfect world? I mean, take a look at the creation story. It talks about how G-d created something and then saw that it was good. Various excerpts: And God said: 'Let there be light.' And there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the dry land Earth, and the gathering together of the waters called He Seas; and God saw that it was good. And the earth brought forth grass, herb yielding seed after its kind, and tree bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after its kind; and God saw that it was good. Etc., etc. finally culminating with: And God saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, it was very good. Nowhere does it say "perfect". The word used in the Torah is "tov" == "good", except for the last one where the phrase is "tov ma'od" == "very good".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 14, 2012 12:41 AM (X3lox)

723 []iI just skimmed 6 commentaries on that passage andmost seem to have the same problem with it I do

Shit, if some half-assed late-night skimmage doesn't convince me, what will?

B-pluses for all!

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:44 AM (fF5sa)

724 The important thing is,. jimi-ray is FUCKING BANG-ON about the failure to account for the geoid being the source of the, uh, inconvenientlly-continual increase in commercial flight safety.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:47 AM (fF5sa)

725 Hrm.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:48 AM (fF5sa)

726 Jeez waterboy you just can't stop. I have never said jimi was infallible and never would. He's fucked up plenty. So that's just another lie to add to the pile. I would never deem jimi or his motives unquestionable: that's another. Frankly waterhouse I was paying zip-zero attention to you, because POP had brought up something I was genuinely interested in and that's by far a much more useful domain for my time and energy, not wasting breath going round and round with you the pathological shape-shifter. You've proven by your postings here the value of your words. Maybe someday I'll let you enroll for some man-training like I gave jimi, but so far it doesn't look good for ya.

Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 12:48 AM (XDC0v)

727 /examines fluid level in container of MacAllan 12-Year

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:49 AM (fF5sa)

728 Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 04:47 AM (fF5sa) The things I miss by skipping over jimi jimi's droppings ... I think jimi is much easier to take in real life, being mute and all.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 14, 2012 12:50 AM (X3lox)

729 Frankly waterhouse I was paying zip-zero attention to you,

That would explain why you're hanging on my every comment.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:51 AM (fF5sa)

730 Come, come, Mr. DAve.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:52 AM (fF5sa)

731 Yes, I think free-will IS a problem... POP you were genuinely the bright spot of my stay here tonight. I appreciate your counsel; I'll have to think about it but right now i gotta get some sleep for work tomorrow- thanks dude I'll see ya soon- 'til then, is God perfect?

Posted by: DAve at November 14, 2012 12:52 AM (XDC0v)

732 I swear I'll never mention jimi-ray's obsession with the geoid again.

And time-traveling neutrinos.

And the engineers who keep him alive.

If only you stop ogling me, DAve.

How many jigga-watts will it take, DAve?

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:54 AM (fF5sa)

733 til then, is God perfect?

B+!!!

This guy keeps coming up with shit no one EVER has contemplated!

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 12:59 AM (fF5sa)

734 Wait, wait!

Wait.

How many ...

How many angels

can, um, meander,

nah, stroll

lame ... walk? traverse? skip? dance?

Dance!

How many angels can dance on ...

help me, DAve!!

I'm grappling with UNPRECEDENTED theological questions.

If only we could bring your giant mind to bear.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 01:02 AM (fF5sa)

735 can't sleep
ugh
damn foot

Posted by: chemjeff at November 14, 2012 01:04 AM (d/5qf)

736 looks like jimi ray and DAve had some ONT emissions here tonight. why do they spend so much time here? sheesh.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 14, 2012 01:07 AM (d/5qf)

737 I'm here for the raucous back-and-forth....though I understand little of it...it is mildly entertaining....plus it keeps me awake.

Posted by: BignJames at November 14, 2012 01:09 AM (HtUkt)

738 735 can't sleep ugh damn foot Posted by: chemjeff at November 14, 2012 05:04 AM (d/5qf) Injury or condition?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 14, 2012 01:10 AM (bxiXv)

739 Holy hell, I promised myself I'd go to sleep four hours ago.

/shakes fist at Internet

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2012 01:17 AM (fF5sa)

740 Injury, I guess - I have a blister right on the knuckle of my big toe

Posted by: chemjeff at November 14, 2012 01:24 AM (d/5qf)

741 Breaking in a new pair of stompy boots CJ?

Posted by: zeera at November 14, 2012 01:26 AM (Lv9bM)

742 umm, no, zeera
apparently it was from when I went ice skating on Saturday
(or rather, attempted to ice skate)

Posted by: chemjeff at November 14, 2012 01:28 AM (d/5qf)

743 My last visit to an ice rink resulted in a broken ankle so you got off easy

Posted by: zeera at November 14, 2012 01:31 AM (Lv9bM)

744 I drove my Chevy Tahoe for 15 years, but made the switch to Kia. I'm very happy with the choice I made!

Posted by: Vicki at November 14, 2012 01:32 AM (/bNRF)

745 and I'm thinking that stompy boots are more for chicks than guys

Posted by: chemjeff at November 14, 2012 01:34 AM (d/5qf)

746 zeera, yeah I was thinking I was going to hurt myself for sure, but I managed not even to fall down

Posted by: chemjeff at November 14, 2012 01:36 AM (d/5qf)

747 740 Injury, I guess - I have a blister right on the knuckle of my big toe Posted by: chemjeff at November 14, 2012 05:24 AM (d/5qf) Sorry to hear that. Depending on the nature of the thing, you could attack/drain it on the theory that a minor injury is better than a major swollen injury (being sure to disinfect thoroughly). Or just pad it adequately with a gap at the surface and try not to move too much in your sleep. In either case, anti-inflammatories should help both the pain and the injury itself, provided you don't use them to excess. Hope you get better soon. Also, take care to use shoes that fit. Extra socks and larger shoes might have helped.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 14, 2012 01:37 AM (bxiXv)

748 thanks Mero, you are too kind

except how does one stop from moving in one's sleep? haven't figured that one out yet.

well, the good news is that I've picked out 7 appetizers for my upcoming party. so that is good.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 14, 2012 01:43 AM (d/5qf)

749 well I will attempt to rest a little bit now.
good night again

Posted by: chemjeff at November 14, 2012 01:45 AM (d/5qf)

750 I was just watching the Kittinger record skydive on youtube and it cracks me up that the first thing he did when he got back on the ground was light up a cigarette. Man, those were the days. They'll probably ban the video of his jump in a few years ... for the children!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 14, 2012 01:49 AM (X3lox)

751 Greetings and salutations, Hord. Just woke up for no real reason and thought I would check the tail end of the ONT for a moment to put me back in a slumberous mood. I see jimi ray is pissed because everyone is pointing out the obvious to him (that he's a dick), and DAve (another dick) has for some reason decided to ride to the first dick's rescue. That's usually not a good idea online, but what are you going to do, dicks will be dicks, after all that's their nature. I've been noticing the upstream observation that Obama voters are inordinately angry and/or quiet this time around, which is fine by me. I hate those stupid free-loading motherfuckers, and they can be mad about the fact that they're a mob of losers being manipulated by an unethical, anti-American con man all they want. They voted for his ass, I hope they wind up eating cat food. Big Ben has the Favre injury, huh? Too bad, the Steelers were on a roll. Maybe he'll play through the pain like a good serial rapist should. He'll have to or they have no shot against the Ravens (whose star murderous linebacker is also out). Well, I'm headed back to be for an hour or so. Vic will let me know what's important in the world when I get back up for work.

Posted by: Midnight Rider at November 14, 2012 01:52 AM (bS6uW)

752 When everything goes to crap because of Obamacare, the idiots will blame the evil insurance companies, even if it makes no sense. I doubt they will be ever to figure out it is Obama's fault.

Posted by: Baldy at November 14, 2012 02:13 AM (opS9C)

753 This ONT really went down hill fast. .....even by the normally extremely low standards and expectations for pretty much every comment after about the 500th post

Posted by: Icedog at November 14, 2012 02:24 AM (9ScGj)

754 3.8% real estate tax? I have a house in China! Every smart fox has 2 dens. Maybe the one in Texas needs to accidentally burn down. F the insurance companies! Free shit for everyone! (Not).

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at November 14, 2012 02:32 AM (HrXMU)

755 except how does one stop from moving in one's sleep? haven't figured that one out yet. Posted by: chemjeff at November 14, 2012 05:43 AM (d/5qf) You have a laboratory in your basement, you hang out at Fapplebees looking for women, and you don't even own a single serviceable set of heavy-duty leather restraints?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 14, 2012 02:36 AM (bxiXv)

756 Good morning, just going to dip my toes in for a second and, hmmm. Better just hang out poolside and see what I can learn.

Posted by: In Cognito at November 14, 2012 02:37 AM (cWpCn)

757 Do NOT underestimate the OWS Rolling Jubilee. It's absolutely the smartest move OWS has ever made, and it is dangerous as hell. The Tea Party should look into encouraging people to do the same thing, completely transparently and without a big fuss, because if OWS is alone in this it'll get 'em respect and power. The Rolling Jubilee and Occupy Sandy -- OWS's private relief effort -- are clear signs that OWS is pursuing power as a radical party. Why do I say this? Well, because the "tangible benefit" model is exactly what the Golden Dawn is doing in Greece, and what radical parties like the Black Panthers did in ghettoes in their heyday. Provide a tangible benefit to people in need, and they will remember you. OWS is in the process of buying voters' goodwill. Greeks will remember that Golden Dawn helped them when the police couldn't or wouldn't help. People will remember that yeah, they've still got all of this debt, but they got a letter from OWS saying "a portion of it is paid off, and we hope that this helps a little." People will remember that they keep seeing little ads in the paper every week with OWS touting the number of people who've had debt retired or eased. People will start *asking for help* from OWS, and OWS will try to deliver what it can as best it can. And someday, at the polling place, they'll ask for a favor in exchange. The issue to attack on is transparency. Didn't OWS get a truckload of donations before? Where did that money go? Why should they get more money for the Rolling Jubilee? What is that money for? How much of it will actually go to debt relief, and how much into OWS's pockets for whatever reason? This debt-forgiveness thing sounds like something that would be reasonable and fun to do. If people knew how, they could buy $500 worth of debt themselves and then forgive it, without having to give money to OWS. That approach is what the Tea Party should encourage. Personal charity is way better than reliance on gummint or OWS.

Posted by: Well-Armed Lamb at November 14, 2012 04:13 AM (eegto)

758 Hope OWS is issuing those 1099s for debt forgiveness. That is taxable income.

Posted by: FNFax at November 14, 2012 05:08 AM (ylre0)

759 My last visit to an ice rink resulted in a broken ankle so you got off easy
And you think you had it hard!!!

Posted by: nancy kerrigan at November 14, 2012 06:36 AM (nkiQM)

760 Is that a picture of Fiscal Cliff Robertson?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at November 14, 2012 09:05 AM (syd43)

761 Forgiven debt is taxable income. So there's that.

Posted by: Ken at November 14, 2012 12:16 PM (3ar4L)

762 Somebody here have a problem with liars? Come see me.

Posted by: King B+rry, Slayer of Osama at November 14, 2012 05:38 PM (ZHXaA)

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