November 25, 2012
— Maetenloch
Turkey: It's what's for dinner the next 4.62 nights.
Does Too Much Education Make People Economically Dumb?
Well it sure seems that way.
In the wake of the election, I've heard five Obama supporters - all of whom also voted for all the California Democrats and for all the California taxes - complain that their taxes are going up next year. The cognitive dissonance is almost painful. All of them consistently embrace big spending - and, therefore Obama and his fellow Democrats - because they've been trained to believe that the spending on welfare, entitlements, and "select" businesses is a "good thing."
And here's a graphic making the rounds which is supposed to show that all the 'smart' states voted for Obama.
Yet when you look at their real world performance, the 'smart' states all seem headed for a giant fiscal implosion.
Some ideas such as spending 130% of your tax revenue year in and year out are so stupid that only the highly educated could possibly believe in them. Yet they're also likely too educated to learn any economic lessons from the coming tutorial in Real World Econ 101.
Worse is Better: All-out Middle East war as good as it gets
This is by Spengler back in September but nothing in his analysis has really changed since then.
If a contrarian thought might be permitted, consider the possibility that all-out regional war is the optimal outcome for American interests. An Israeli strike on Iran that achieved even limited success - a two-year delay in Iran's nuclear weapons development - would arrest America's precipitous decline as a superpower.
From the US perspective a region of dysfunctional (albeit radical) basket case countries would be the next best alternative to a true Arab spring.
In the long view of things, there is not much cause for optimism about the Muslim world. It contains two kinds of countries: those that can't feed their children, like Egypt, and those that have stopped having children, like Iran, Turkey, Algeria and Tunisia. Muslim nations seem to pass directly from infancy to senescence without stopping at adulthood, from the pre-modern directly to the post-modern, as I wrote in my book Why Civilizations Die (and Why Islam is Dying, Too).
There is no reason to expect most of the Muslim countries to go quietly into irreversible decline. All-out regional war is the likely outcome sooner or later. We might as well get on with it.
Some Positive News: Last Surviving Mumbai Terrorist Executed
Ajmal Kasab, the last surviving gunmen who took part in the Mumbai Massacre in 2008, has been executed according to the Indian government.
Only when he was being taken to the gallows did Ajmal Kasab lose his composure. "Allah kasam maaf karna. Aisi galthi dobara nahi hogi. (I swear by Allah, please forgive me. I won't make such a mistake again)," were the last coherent words uttered by Kasab as he was taken to the gallows at Yerawada central prison on Wednesday morning. Sources said Kasab then spoke incoherently for a while until the lever was pulled.
Has an important battle ever been decided by single combat?
There are many tales of single combat battles but few documented cases:
Livy later reports a likelier tale of single combat circa 361 BC involving the Romans and the Gauls. The two armies were camped on opposite banks of a river when a Gaul of "extraordinary stature" approached the bridge between them and taunted the Romans, calling for the bravest to come out and fight. An average-looking Roman named Titus Manlius rose to the challenge and administered a fatal shellacking to his oversized opponent. The Gauls freaked and ran.
We hear little more about single combat till 1016 AD, when Edmund Ironside of England and the invading Canute of Denmark were repeatedly hurling their armies at each other with great loss of life but no definite results. According to one dubious 12th-century account, this ended when the weary English nobles, asked to prepare for yet another go-round, told the king: you want to win this one so bad, bubba, fight it yourself. Both leaders agreed, and they duked it out till Canute suggested calling it a draw, whereupon the two ruled their kingdoms together.
'Father of digital imaging' Bryce Bayer dies aged 83
You probably never heard of him but every time you use a digital camera you use his work.
Bryce Bayer, former Eastman Kodak scientist, and inventor of the Bayer Filter -- found with most modern digital image sensors -- has sadly recently passed. Bayer's work with Kodak left an indelible mark on almost every digital image you see today, both figuratively, and literally. His eponymous color filter, developed in 1976, used a mosaic layout of red green and blue filters that enables light sensors to create full color images. The design imitates the way the human eye perceives color, with twice as much green as red or blue, and the resulting output is then interpreted with "demosaicing" algorithms to produce an accurate, RGB image. Bayer's work also included significant contributions to other areas of digital photography, including storage, enhancement and printing. Bayer died on November 13th in Bath, Maine aged 83.
10 Chemical Compounds with Joke Names
Hey baby - would you prefer some Dickite or Cummingtonite? How bout both?
It's not the worst way to go:
A buxom woman has been accused of trying to kill her lawyer boyfriend. with her 38DD breasts.Franziska, 33 from Germany, who weighs nine stone is accused of 'attempted manslaughter with a weapon' after her 13-stone boyfriend claimed she tried to smother him with her breasts and pretend it was a sex game.
...'She was sitting on me naked and I was kissing her breasts. Suddenly she grabbed my head and pushed between her breasts with all of her force.
'I couldn't breathe any more, I must have turned blue. I couldn't tear myself free and I thought I was going to die.'
He said that with his last reserves of strength he had managed to extricate himself from the woman's vice-like grip and fled naked to a neighbour and demanded he called the police.
...I asked her why she wanted to smother me to death with her breasts and she told me: "Treasure - I wanted your death to be as pleasurable as possible."'
Weekly AoSHQ Commenter Standings
Top 10 commenters:
1 [526 comments] 'Niedermeyer's Dead Horse' [73.84 posts/day]
2 [457 comments] 'Vic'
3 [417 comments] 'kbdabear'
4 [372 comments] 'BCochran1981'
5 [349 comments] 'eman '
6 [315 comments] 'chemjeff'
7 [299 comments] 'Harlekwin15'
8 [273 comments] 'Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney'
9 [245 comments] 'Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual'
10 [230 comments] 'toby928? for TB'
Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [153 names] 'Comrade Kulak' [21.48 unique names/day]
2 [99 names] 'kbdabear'
3 [44 names] 'Alex'
4 [42 names] 'fluffy'
5 [41 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)'
6 [30 names] 'andycanuck'
7 [25 names] 'Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual'
8 [25 names] 'The Political Hat'
9 [24 names] 'Count de Monet'
10 [24 names] 'Doctor Fish'
The group. Yeah.
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Posted by: Dang at November 25, 2012 05:55 PM (R18D0)
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 05:56 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 25, 2012 05:57 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 25, 2012 05:57 PM (GVxQo)
Posted by: jewells45 at November 25, 2012 05:57 PM (u25eL)
"Allah kasam maaf karna. Aisi galthi dobara nahi hogi. (I swear by Allah, please forgive me. I won't make such a mistake again),"
No... You won't.
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 05:58 PM (x/9BF)
Posted by: joncelli at November 25, 2012 05:58 PM (CWlPF)
Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2012 06:00 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: jewells45 at November 25, 2012 06:00 PM (u25eL)
I'm assuming that if you listed those states with percentages of those with business degrees only, it would look quite different
Reminds me of that old Emo Phillips joke; "I used to think that the brain was the most fascinating part of the body ... until I remembered who was telling me this"
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 06:00 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: harleycowboy at November 25, 2012 06:02 PM (+9AX9)
Posted by: jewells45 at November 25, 2012 06:02 PM (u25eL)
I'm so fuckin proud.
Posted by: fluffy at November 25, 2012 06:02 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 06:03 PM (x/9BF)
Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at November 25, 2012 06:04 PM (fM3nD)
Posted by: otho at November 25, 2012 06:04 PM (yBF/9)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 25, 2012 06:05 PM (jucos)
Posted by: fluffy at November 25, 2012 10:02 PM (z9HTb)
I thought it was "I'm wicked proud."
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 06:05 PM (x/9BF)
Posted by: AltonJackson at November 25, 2012 06:05 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: grease monkey at November 25, 2012 06:05 PM (VSWPU)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 25, 2012 06:07 PM (jucos)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 06:07 PM (GEICT)
When the words are "the government MUST ... " , you know they have a Masters degree
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 06:07 PM (wwsoB)
Tis now time to harass the waterfowl mercilessly.
Posted by: irongrampa at November 25, 2012 06:08 PM (SAMxH)
My dedicated libtard sister and her husband, in discussing the CA amendment requiring bigger majorities to pass spending increases from a couple of years back was necessary "to force the Republicans in the state to be responsible and be part of the process."
Posted by: Methos at November 25, 2012 06:08 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 06:08 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 06:09 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: Social Science Graduate Student at November 25, 2012 06:09 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: jewells45 at November 25, 2012 06:09 PM (u25eL)
What a depressing thought.
Oh, well.
Good night. I have to get up at 4:45, and I hurt like hell, so I'm going to get a bath and go to bed. Gotta do my part to keep California's economy going, so they can steal everything I make!
Posted by: Dianna at November 25, 2012 06:10 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 25, 2012 06:10 PM (Tqh1Y)
I would imagine though that the Northeast has the most lawyers per capita
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 06:11 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2012 06:12 PM (sdi6R)
I'd take 4th with her:
http://tinyurl.com/4xz74ka
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 06:12 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Refugee from the Fools Golden State at November 25, 2012 06:12 PM (sZTYJ)
Cancel your gym membership if you can and let them know why. Tell others why. The gym management then might have the incentive to find out who's stealing shit from lockers
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 06:13 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 06:14 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: jewells45 at November 25, 2012 06:14 PM (u25eL)
Good evening, good people. Deer season is done for me, the M-14 did make a fine deer rifle with Remington Corelokt
=====
Pennsylvania's rifle season starts at the crack of dawn tomorrow.
Posted by: USS Diversity at November 25, 2012 06:14 PM (9ghZ6)
Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 25, 2012 06:16 PM (Ea64Y)
Heh, Manlius. Sounds like a George Lucas character.
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 25, 2012 06:16 PM (N+xco)
Posted by: Mindy at November 25, 2012 06:16 PM (6jLT3)
In the wake of the election, I've heard five Obama supporters - all of
whom also voted for all the California Democrats and for all the
California taxes - complain that their taxes are going up next year.
My reply to them would be "You dumbass. You got what you ask for. BWAAHAHAHAHA."
Posted by: harleycowboy at November 25, 2012 06:16 PM (+9AX9)
Probably shocked also that their sister who married an alcoholic shows up with bruises on her a lot. They were sure that marriage would "moderate" his behavior
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 06:18 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Truman North at November 25, 2012 06:19 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: derit at November 25, 2012 06:19 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2012 06:19 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 06:19 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: The Iceberg that Sank the Titanic at November 25, 2012 06:20 PM (pwyhn)
Pretty much. When your dog makes a mess in the carpet, you don't try to reason with him not to do it again because you lack a common language.
You rub his nose in the spot until he figures it out himself.
Posted by: Methos at November 25, 2012 06:20 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:14 PM
No, he thinks it's in financial trouble because OTHER PEOPLES taxes are too low
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 06:20 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 06:20 PM (aPAIU)
I say it is primarily because students in general don't have a lot of great critical thinking skills going into college. So when they get to college and they encounter these liberal professors, they don't have the tools to critically analyze their claims. They just accept whatever the authority figure says.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 06:21 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:14 PM
Does this dress make my carbon footprint look too big?
Posted by: Meggie McBoobs at November 25, 2012 06:21 PM (wwsoB)
Could be worse, could be Yuma.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 25, 2012 06:21 PM (xKC/c)
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 06:22 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 10:13 PM (wwsoB)
And insist upon a refund, not just a cancellation.
Loudly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 06:23 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 06:23 PM (VLG62)
Posted by: Truman North at November 25, 2012 06:24 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Greenland at November 25, 2012 06:24 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 06:24 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 06:24 PM (ANmol)
Posted by: USS Diversity at November 25, 2012 06:24 PM (9ghZ6)
Posted by: H202 at November 25, 2012 06:25 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 10:21 PM (d/5qf)
And these are the idiots with the "Question Authority" bumper stickers. They can't, and they don't, and they won't. But of course, they CARE deeply.
Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 06:25 PM (VLG62)
Posted by: Capt. Francesco Schettino at November 25, 2012 06:25 PM (pwyhn)
That's lovely.
http://tinyurl.com/c7eqr34
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 06:25 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: The Political Hat at November 25, 2012 06:26 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: Gay and Lesbian Studies at November 25, 2012 06:26 PM (SkyIE)
I say it is primarily because students in general don't have a lot of great critical thinking skills going into college. So when they get to college and they encounter these liberal professors, they don't have the tools to critically analyze their claims. They just accept whatever the authority figure says. [i/]
I agree with you on that. If they get into a disagreement with their Prof. he can circularly argue them into his position.
Posted by: harleycowboy at November 25, 2012 06:26 PM (+9AX9)
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 06:26 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: Alaska facts at November 25, 2012 06:26 PM (aPAIU)
73 Pain can clear the Lefty mind of silly ideas.
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:22 PM (bWwMZ)
In order for that to happen, the mind has to be able to connect the source of the pain to its cause. And these are people who vote for the guy who says he wants to raise taxes and then get all confused when taxes go up. If you can't process cause and effect the pain is wasted.
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 06:27 PM (x/9BF)
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 10:24 PM (ANmol)
The way I understand it, the cadillac policies will get taxed. I think any policy over $12,000 per year.
Posted by: robtr at November 25, 2012 06:27 PM (rTgOf)
"Could be worse, could be Yuma."
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 25, 2012 10:21 PM (xKC/c)
Poor Yuma, gets no respect.
Posted by: Yuman at November 25, 2012 06:28 PM (zCPui)
well, it's certainly 0% genetic, but I don't think it is 100% indoctrination.
I was at Barnes and Noble the other day and I was browsing through Lakoff's "Moral Politics" book. (yes, that Lakoff) Of course he does a poor job at explaining the moral reasoning behind conservatism, but I accept him at his word on his explanation of the moral reasoning behind liberalism, and that is, to liberals, government is the Nurturing Parent figure.
which kind of goes with why you have so many liberals who seem unconcerned with issues of liberty and freedom as they seek to grow and expand the state. to them, citizens are children, and the only liberty that we citizens ought to have is akin to the liberty that a child has while in a playpen. Government constructs the playpen, and provides the child with all of its essential needs, and then the child is "free" to do whatever it wishes - inside the playpen. that seems to be their concept of liberty.
so yeah, to them, single-payer health care is great - it relieves the citizens of that pesky burden of having to provide for their own needs, and allows them more "play time" in the playpen.
it is a twisted view of liberty but that is what I think is going on.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 06:28 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: piercello at November 25, 2012 06:28 PM (E/6f0)
In order for that to happen, the mind has to be able to connect the source of the pain to its cause. And these are people who vote for the guy who says he wants to raise taxes and then get all confused when taxes go up. If you can't process cause and effect the pain is wasted.
Especially when the media continuously points out that the pain is coming from everywhere BUT the actual source.
Posted by: USS Diversity at November 25, 2012 06:29 PM (9ghZ6)
The correlation between the states' economic conditions and educational rankings makes a powerful argument that what passes for college "education" these days is not only a huge waste of money but downright harmful to society.
In other words, liberalism ruins everything it infects.
Posted by: JPS at November 25, 2012 06:29 PM (wS6Sf)
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 06:30 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Green Studies at November 25, 2012 06:30 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2012 06:30 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 06:31 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: DAve at November 25, 2012 06:31 PM (XDC0v)
at least you aren't posting once every 5 minutes, like sven was that one week
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 06:31 PM (d/5qf)
Legitimate blame? The MFM will help them out. Just like all their stories about Republican intransigence somehow thwarting poor Barry's supermajority in his first two years.
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 25, 2012 06:32 PM (N+xco)
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 06:32 PM (ANmol)
Posted by: and irresolute at November 25, 2012 06:32 PM (DBH1h)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 06:32 PM (v8RoL)
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 06:33 PM (ANmol)
Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 06:33 PM (aPAIU)
but the "chemistry" guess is correct
well done, maybe you do have a few critical thinking brain cells
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 06:33 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 10:31 PM (d/5qf)
Wasn't he just cutting and pasting his old stuff. It all sounded the same, so I stopped reading after the 850th comment.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 06:34 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 25, 2012 06:34 PM (N+xco)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 06:34 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 10:33 PM (ANmol)
Go on...
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 25, 2012 06:34 PM (pwyhn)
Posted by: Butters at November 25, 2012 06:34 PM (NIZHJ)
Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2012 06:34 PM (sdi6R)
Mandatory schooling will be required.
Posted by: History at November 25, 2012 06:35 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: Icedog at November 25, 2012 06:35 PM (PTS+l)
Gotta say, theCA propositions/measures were written with a very liberal/sneaky means..All were tax increases, (hello! vote against) yet on some you voted no and some yes...it was in the wording, and you definately had to read it more than once to figure out how they were trying to trick you. And with with the "beloved" Jerry Brown saying it was "for the children" you just knew that one was going to prevail.
P.S. See's Candies rules!
Posted by: concrete girl at November 25, 2012 06:35 PM (y2Ojs)
P.S. It really is a mineral, named after its discoverer, a fellow named, curiously enough, Cummington.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 25, 2012 06:36 PM (pFqpP)
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 06:36 PM (ANmol)
Chapter 2 would be where that guy whacks his girlfriend in the face with his dick.
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 10:33 PM (ANmol)
Dear ONT,
Something just happened to me that I just *had* to tell you about...
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 06:37 PM (x/9BF)
Posted by: concrete girl at November 25, 2012 10:35 PM (y2Ojs)
FIFY
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 06:38 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2012 06:38 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2012 06:38 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 06:38 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 06:38 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: CMU VET at November 25, 2012 06:38 PM (dPSpR)
Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 06:38 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 06:39 PM (+AV7H)
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 10:36 PM (ANmol)
This year, due to impending financial ruin, I'm giving my home-made apple jelly. It's a lovely shade of rose, because I cook it with the peels before I strain it, and I use both cinnamon and cloves. Tastes rather like apple pie, so I expect I will have second requests. Plus, it costs next to nothing to make if you buy the apples in bulk from an orchard or pick your own.
The strawberry crop sucked around here, or I would give that as well.
Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 06:39 PM (VLG62)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2012 06:39 PM (piMMO)
I make kick-ass caramel, but the additional step of coating it with good chocolate is a huge, huge step. It is fantastically difficult to do it correctly, so if your friend needs another career, tell him (or her) that chocolate coating is it!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 06:40 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: and irresolute at November 25, 2012 06:40 PM (DBH1h)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 06:40 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 06:40 PM (+AV7H)
The states that have a large percentage of college degrees should vote Republican, they are high earners and producers, not citizens that yearn for socialist government to deliver higher taxes and more food stamps. The problem is, people like Todd Akin and Rick Santorum are the face of the modern GOP.
We need a new coalition that can attract secular voters, and yes, that might mean we don't do as well in places like Mississippi or Alabama, but the GOP is now even having problems winning Senate seats in the Bible Belt.
Posted by: Jeepers at November 25, 2012 06:40 PM (XDRsa)
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 06:41 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: concrete girl at November 25, 2012 06:41 PM (y2Ojs)
Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 06:41 PM (aPAIU)
I am a hook-nosed cheap, money-grubbing Jew, but when I get something home-made as a gift I am thrilled.
Don't sell your gifts short. That sounds wonderful.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 06:42 PM (GsoHv)
Education, smedukashon ... whatever, that sentence makes absolutely no sense.
Posted by: Gerry at November 25, 2012 06:42 PM (kWiY4)
I guess that would be reason they put up a map based on percentage of college grads in a state rather then just ask who won the majority of the college educated. Of course based on their own implicit assumption (college grads are superior to other people) that would make Romney the superior candidate.
Posted by: Bill at November 25, 2012 06:42 PM (0hnzz)
Posted by: and irresolute at November 25, 2012 10:40 PM (DBH1h)
What-- Alias? Be warned, that show goes over the Crazy Cliff at 200 MPH in season four.
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 06:43 PM (x/9BF)
Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 06:43 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Jeepers at November 25, 2012 10:40 PM (XDRsa)
Sheesh, talk about confirmation bias.
You are seeing what you want to see.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 06:43 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 06:43 PM (v8RoL)
Does too much education make people economically dumb?
It does. Because people are being educated in literature, philosophy and ______ studies.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 25, 2012 06:43 PM (DoZD+)
I hope the recipients are worthy of the gift. I've never met a home-made apple jelly I didn't like.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 25, 2012 06:44 PM (xKC/c)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:42 PM (GsoHv)
My son eats this out of the jar, but I usually make him put it on bread with some peanut butter. I don't always catch him, though.
Once in a while I happen upon a really great combination, and then can it. We eat it for a year and if we still like it, then I put it on my yearly rotation. Apple jelly is one of those things.
Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 06:44 PM (VLG62)
Posted by: Butters at November 25, 2012 06:44 PM (NIZHJ)
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 06:44 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 25, 2012 06:44 PM (KCvsd)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo" "
I have that beat. My sister made a "Honey Bourbon Pumpkin Cheesecake" that is to die for. Eat all the chocolate you want. It will NEVER be as good as this.
Posted by: Al at November 25, 2012 06:45 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Truman North at November 25, 2012 06:45 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 06:45 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: Jeepers at November 25, 2012 10:40 PM
Socons comprise a large bloc of voters. How many of Meggie Mac's hipster ghey friends do you think your new coalition can draw in to replace them?
The Dems win because they have a large coalition of voters who believe they have a right to free shit and others have an obligation to pay for said free shit. Single women voters are more inclined to believe in "mommy government" that takes care of their needs while leaving them with plenty of expendable income to go shopping
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 06:45 PM (wwsoB)
So I send her a nice email, she reads the email, and then.... that's it.
So I'm wondering, where did all that love go? What does it mean when women say they have so much love to give and share, and yet that never seems to be enough to respond to a simple, nice email?
And yes I was very polite and mentioned details in her profile to show I read it too. None of this, hey baby come sit on my face! silliness. I only do that for Craigslist anyway.
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 06:45 PM (+AV7H)
Posted by: Kalneva at November 25, 2012 06:46 PM (S+/pH)
CBD @#7, if you ever pass through the Paso Robles area, try to find some of the almond brittle made by a small company there (only distributed locally, far as I know, I always get some when I drop by Halter Ranch winery, which is on the west side of 101, out near Tablas Creek and before Justin.
On the educated/stupid part: my despair is well-founded, and thus complete and robust. I really do think it's much, much worse than just 20 years ago. "Education" is severely corrupted/politicized, as well as absolutely dumbed-down (critical thinking? what's that?). Large parts of science is politicized/corrupted. Journalism is long dead, and in areas of public policy has been replaced by (goofy, stupid, always wrong) advocacy, distortion, and worse (Rather-gate).
And in all these areas, those old enough to know better are often victims of their normal confidence in the division of labor. Example. A good friend's brother is the chair of a physics dept. at a major east coast university. Over the last few years, my friend has tried to nudge his brother towards looking at the outlandish claims, data distortion, and general unscientific approach characterizing most "climate science". The brother seems shocked at each revelation, literally disbelieving. "We would never do that!" sort of reaction - and correct, his discipline would never reach that sorry state because it is actually based on, uh - science.
That reminds me. This friend's other sibling and associates, not long ago, automatically, effortlessly, and idiotically just blurted out "oh, that's because of Proposition 13" when CA's fiscal disaster was being discussed. These are east coast people, not seriously political (not seriously policy-oriented or informed, either). But it's just a given that even these people, so far away, AUTOMATICALLY ascribe a fiscal mess to limits on taxes. THAT is how pervasive the distortion is in the public square (media, academia, culture).
I know it's easy and common for people here to rant and otherwise express their outrage at the nonsense engulfing the US. But I think I have really reached a point of complete alienation from most of my fellow citizens (incl. the siblings, who are your typical educated/idiot types).
There IS no learning curve, people. Just as probably 5% of the populace has the slightest idea of what the 2008 "financial crisis" really was about or its origins, I see no reason to believe that the probable financial train-wreck now looming will result in ANY "learning".
Sorry, and I'll stop, but just listen to some of the oral arguments before the SCOTUS on the ridiculous, disastrous, and obviously absurdly un-constitutional health care "reform". I listened to about 10 min. of it - a jaw-dropping horror show. Nobody - not a single justice, neither counsel, clearly had the slightest idea of what insurance really is. On top of that, their shockingly illiterate discussion had NOTHING to do with the proper role of the court, the govt., or the plaintiffs. Bottom line: I think many generally smart and right-thinking people resemble slightly-boiled frogs, who don't realize how idiotic things have become. I don't see Mad Max times ahead, but I don't see any reason to expect the cretinized electorate, the dumbed-down and corrupt public square, or the illiterate elites to improve in my lifetime. Doom.
Posted by: non-purist at November 25, 2012 06:46 PM (UViC2)
Posted by: Alex the YELLLER at November 25, 2012 06:46 PM (aPAIU)
legislature, they won't be able to legitimately blame the Republicans
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Apparently you didn't see the video clip a few years ago whem Bawney Fwank blamed Republicans for not stopping the Democraps from forcing banks to give loans to minorities with really bad credit.
Posted by: Gay and Lesbian Studies at November 25, 2012 06:46 PM (SkyIE)
Thanks so much.
I really need another source for decadent food that I cannot resist.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 06:47 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2012 06:47 PM (piMMO)
The problem is, Republicans have lost way too many affluent "white collar" voters chasing after SoCon votes.
Good grief, here we go again.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 25, 2012 06:47 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2012 06:47 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 06:47 PM (ANmol)
Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 06:49 PM (aPAIU)
Thank God it ended the way I was hoping.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 06:50 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 06:50 PM (GEICT)
I expect most professions are the same to some degree. The true measure of quality is not what one says about something, but what one is likely to purchase again.
Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 06:50 PM (VLG62)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 06:51 PM (v8RoL)
Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 06:51 PM (aPAIU)
has so much love to give
Key phrase meaning, "I am an emotional well of neediness that will drain your soul down to an emaciated husk."
Be glad they're not answering your emails.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 25, 2012 06:51 PM (xKC/c)
stay tuned. I will get the recipe for you. Not tonight though. She has gone to bed.
She is allergic to gluten. So the crust was made of crushed nuts. Yum, even better than graham cracker.
Posted by: Al at November 25, 2012 06:51 PM (V70Uh)
Do you remember the name of the company?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 06:52 PM (GsoHv)
Nope. It's because they are not being educated in literature and philosophy.
In most programs, there is no longer any historical core curriculum -- in any subject at all, including, of all things, history. They're getting a degree without an education.
Literature and philosophy are a great background for a deep understanding of economics, or even business administration. But you have to study it. They don't.
Posted by: comatus at November 25, 2012 06:52 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2012 06:52 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 06:53 PM (v8RoL)
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 06:54 PM (ANmol)
Posted by: derit at November 25, 2012 06:54 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2012 06:54 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Kalneva at November 25, 2012 06:55 PM (S+/pH)
+1
History majors have a profound understanding of the lesbian culture in 17th century London, but don't know anything about Queen Elizabeth the1st.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 06:55 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 06:56 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 06:57 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: Al at November 25, 2012 06:57 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2012 10:54 PM (piMMO)
Don't worry...I appreciate it.
I am the lingerie buyer in the Dildo house.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 06:57 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 06:57 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: President Garcia-Thompson at November 25, 2012 06:57 PM (vUK/h)
Like I said, I think we were meant to be together! I would have never made her change! I liked the black one, and that nasty little whip!!
Posted by: and irresolute at November 25, 2012 06:58 PM (DBH1h)
John Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Chris Matthews, and Bill Maher.
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These idiots do way more damage than we realize.
Posted by: USS Diversity at November 25, 2012 06:58 PM (9ghZ6)
Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 10:56 PM (aPAIU)
There is always a fine line between suicide and homicide.
Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 06:58 PM (VLG62)
But very few know how to make gunpowder.
Posted by: Al at November 25, 2012 06:58 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 25, 2012 06:58 PM (KCvsd)
okay, that would be awesome. that definitely sounds like something I want to try to make.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 06:58 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 06:58 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 06:59 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Ed Anger at November 25, 2012 06:59 PM (tOkJB)
Posted by: Keena at November 25, 2012 07:00 PM (FUo3j)
Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 07:00 PM (aPAIU)
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Sounds likely.
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It means that she has lots of love to give to the right man. Just as you probably have lots of love to give to the right woman. Still, I think that if someone takes the time to write, and isn't stalkerish, then a simple "thank you" would be the courteous thing to do.
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I do think if someone is by nature an overly affectionate and cheery person they have a disposition in being more polite and courteous than the general masses. I find it bothersome that even among these sorts I'm not even worth a blowoff email, and it's the sort I'm generally attracted to.
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 07:00 PM (+AV7H)
Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 07:01 PM (Ai+tZ)
Take heart, for most the kiddies ain't watching as much TV.
Posted by: derit at November 25, 2012 07:01 PM (I88Jc)
We've never done this before!
Well, at least the wine is good.
Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 11:01 PM (Ai+tZ)
Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 25, 2012 07:02 PM (adaoe)
Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 07:03 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 07:03 PM (kaalw)
Preferably if you're in the fitting rooms, which is not odd at all because you were there with your... wife... helping her try on bras. For realsies.
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 07:03 PM (+AV7H)
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 07:03 PM (ANmol)
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 25, 2012 10:58 PM (KCvsd)
The real issue is that most architecture professors couldn't produce a decent set of documents if their life depended upon it, and so they turn out graduates who cannot actually perform in the profession. Lots of screwy theory, but not one practical skill.
I went from architecture school to the CoE, and my first serious project was renovating a sewage treatment plant. At the end of my five year tour, I knew more about building than all of my professors combined.
Students come out of school thinking they are the greatest designers of all time, only to find out they can't do anything they think they can because a. the building code is strict and b. newbies get to do toilet room details and hardware schedules. Big bosses get to be designy guys. Oh well.
Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 07:03 PM (VLG62)
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 25, 2012 07:04 PM (KCvsd)
Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 07:04 PM (LUnTP)
okay, I have seen maybe two entire episodes of Jon Stewart in my life, but even with those two episodes, it was quite obvious to me that he was editing media clips in order to make Republicans look buffoonish, and that that was a standard part of his schtick. apparently, the Jon Stewart fanbois don't realize this and think Republicans act like this in real life? man, scary scary
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 07:04 PM (d/5qf)
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These idiots do way more damage than we realize.
Posted by: USS Diversity at November 25, 2012 10:58 PM (9ghZ6)
Look on the bright side: Once the EPA shuts down all the power plants and we're back to candles, their influence will be negligible.
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 07:04 PM (x/9BF)
what is up with you tonite
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:01 PM (d/5qf)
If you're grading online quizzes, why isn't your software telling you a score?
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 07:04 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Edie the Education Major at November 25, 2012 07:04 PM (C8mVl)
because I include an essay part to the quizzes.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 07:05 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 07:06 PM (LUnTP)
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 25, 2012 07:06 PM (KCvsd)
Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 07:06 PM (LUnTP)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 07:06 PM (s765P)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 07:06 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 07:07 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Weird at November 25, 2012 07:07 PM (aPAIU)
Well, a question like: Okay, so you did the math and got a certain numerical value for some physical quantity. Now explain WHY the value you obtained is a reasonable value.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 07:08 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 07:08 PM (VLG62)
Posted by: Edie the Education Major at November 25, 2012 11:04 PM (C8mVl)
Some of the dumbest people I've ever had the displeasure to meet in my entire life were education majors.
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 07:08 PM (x/9BF)
I increasingly get the feeling I'm in a particularly creepy episode of The Twilight Zone.
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 25, 2012 07:08 PM (xouud)
Posted by: AltonJackson at November 25, 2012 07:09 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 07:09 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: Weird at November 25, 2012 07:09 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at November 25, 2012 07:09 PM (vGCek)
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 07:09 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 07:09 PM (GEICT)
I think you're right, but just wait until they relive the Italian Renaissance. Again.
Gonna look like the outtakes from that Gary Cooper/Patricia O'Neal movie.
The invention of the Butler Building put a lot of architects in their place, hard.
Posted by: comatus at November 25, 2012 07:09 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 07:09 PM (ANmol)
Posted by: Mr. Slave at November 25, 2012 07:10 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 25, 2012 07:10 PM (KCvsd)
Posted by: Guido at November 25, 2012 07:10 PM (8EKcT)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 07:10 PM (s765P)
Posted by: Some Smartass Student at November 25, 2012 07:10 PM (LUnTP)
The "fiscal cliff" is less frightening than the bankruptcy cliff.
http://tinyurl.com/bmav4d2
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 07:11 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 07:11 PM (v8RoL)
Well, the whole "fiscal conservative, social liberal" is called a libertarian. And generally speaking, the hard-core libertarians usually (a) grow up and realize that yes, there is more to liberty than simply personal wish fulfillment, it also takes an ordered society and a respect for traditions which got us here in the first place (i.e., drifts to conservatism), or (b) don't grow up, continues to be a self-centered nihilist but still thinks that "someone ought to take care of the poor", which leads to liberalism
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 07:11 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: Alex from the hood at November 25, 2012 07:11 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2012 07:11 PM (sdi6R)
Take a visit to Gatlinburg, Tennessee and have yourself an Old Smokey. It's like a fried twinkie experience, but with a lot more hallucinations.
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 07:12 PM (+AV7H)
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 07:12 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 11:09 PM (GEICT)
No. The ones I met were public high school teachers here in Louisiana. Not exactly the cream of the crop, mind you.
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 07:12 PM (x/9BF)
Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 07:12 PM (Ai+tZ)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 07:12 PM (s765P)
Posted by: Some HEB Sales Rep at November 25, 2012 07:13 PM (LUnTP)
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Were I in the Indian government I would make sure those last words get a lot of coverage.
Ajmal Kasab might have believed in Islamism enough to go on a killing spree...but even he realized in the end what he did was wrong...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2012 07:13 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at November 25, 2012 07:14 PM (vGCek)
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 07:14 PM (+AV7H)
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 25, 2012 07:14 PM (xouud)
Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 07:14 PM (LUnTP)
Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 11:03 PM (VLG62)
FIFY
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 07:14 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:10 PM (s765P)
well, possibly.
if they got the math wrong, and then realize they got the math wrong with an explanation like "my number seems off, I think it ought to be in this range for X reason", then that is a good explanation even with a math error.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 07:15 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: Woodrow Wilson at November 25, 2012 07:15 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: Alex from the hood at November 25, 2012 07:15 PM (aPAIU)
With enough certainty to assign a grade. If you don't like judging the size of shadows you can take philosophy as a major and you'll discovery the numbers in your life time earnings are shadows. Next question.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 07:15 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 07:16 PM (LUnTP)
Posted by: Derivative Role Playing Gamer at November 25, 2012 07:16 PM (bS6uW)
this is true.
if you meet someone who introduces him/herself as having an Ed.D., run
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 07:16 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: BLOOMBERG at November 25, 2012 07:16 PM (aPAIU)
Well I think Bisexual Asian Studies should have its own building. The question is: who goes? The math department or the hockey team? I think the hockey team. Think about it.
Silly question. Correct answer: both of them. /liberal
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 25, 2012 07:16 PM (4u2LN)
CBD, it's a miracle ...... I remembered that I used the little re-sealable bag from the almond brittle to store ...... bullets (a small number of 9mm odd-ball ones that I picked up by mistake at a local reloading store).
Paso Almonds - 888-549-9126 (hope this is isn't some code of ethics violation around here? I have no connection to the company other than buying a few bags of their product each year, depending on how many times I get to the central coast)
Transitioning seamlessly to another topic ..... Jeepers, I'm too lazy to do it, but go check the flash/preliminary exit poll data re vote shares in the recent election. Romney did very well with the higher-income demo, as well as even with white yutes (I believe he either tied or exceeded all-time GOP voting %s in both demos).
And since MO and IN were mentioned - WTF, people? Behold how f***ed we really are. There aren't a few thousand intelligent voters in those two states, who understand how their feral govt. (incl. the legislative branch) actually works, to vote strategically in these two cases? Who gives a f**k if some candidate says a few bizarre things on issues never to be part of Senate business? In 2012? In 2012? IN 2012?! FFS.
The missing 7 million or whatever, and the voters of MO and IN, to me, share the blame for furthering the degradation and decline of the US. As previously lamented, what I see as essentially a permanent degradation. Unless someone can explain to me how we re-educate 200 million people in common sense, decency, economics, history, logic, self-governance and freedom, international affairs, and sundry little items like not allowing ignorance, envy, or racism to guide you in your duties as a citizen.
"Vote for revenge" ..... and "to punish your enemies" (who, 10 years ago, would have believed such churlish un-American idiocy would have been uttered by any public figure in the US, much less the most senior elected one?)
Posted by: non-purist at November 25, 2012 07:16 PM (UViC2)
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I taught some at one point. Not only dumb, but as intellectually incurious a group as I have ever met.
Of course if we approached educating educators rationally pre-HS would be a 2 year degree with a 2 year internship, and HS would be 2 years of teaching, 2 years of the subject you will be teaching.
A Master's degree to teach? Seriously? I have to teach people consistently working in the private sector and the presumption is anyone can do it without special training beyond knowing the subject.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2012 07:16 PM (AUeaU)
A molecule or two of the Titanic Iceberg and it's victims is in there.
So stick to the booze. Less transmigration.
Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at November 25, 2012 07:17 PM (BAnPT)
Posted by: Frank Meyer at November 25, 2012 07:17 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 07:17 PM (s765P)
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 25, 2012 07:18 PM (KCvsd)
Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at November 25, 2012 07:18 PM (vGCek)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 25, 2012 07:18 PM (NzBQO)
It was all working according to plan until those White Star guys turned up in Lakehurst with matches.
Posted by: Luftschiffbau Zeppelin GmbH at November 25, 2012 07:18 PM (pwyhn)
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Would that have something to do with the fact that most education majors are women?
I denounce myself.
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 07:19 PM (+AV7H)
Posted by: Super Saiyan Bill Buckley at November 25, 2012 07:19 PM (LUnTP)
No good deed goes unpunished.
Posted by: MrCaniac at November 25, 2012 07:19 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 07:20 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at November 25, 2012 07:21 PM (vGCek)
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This isn't your point exactly, but there is little reason this has to be so.
Most goals of both could be advanced if they worked together.
I consider myself to be both a libertarian and social conservative and don't see much conflict between the two.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2012 07:21 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 07:21 PM (Ai+tZ)
I t wasn't that hard to do, just tedious dealing with around 50 teeny tiny screws. Of course I dropped several of them on the floor during the reassembly part. I dropped more curse words than screws overall though.
The fan is now all clean and spiffy and just as bitchy as before, so now I have order a new one. On the brighter side, I'll get to do some more cussing, and I'll go ahead and upgrade my memory while I'm at it.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 25, 2012 07:21 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Howard Roark at November 25, 2012 07:22 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: Gotenks at November 25, 2012 07:22 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 07:22 PM (ANmol)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 07:22 PM (s765P)
Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 07:22 PM (LUnTP)
Posted by: Butters at November 25, 2012 07:22 PM (NIZHJ)
Thanks....although this may be a repeat....the blog software ate my first "thank you."
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 07:22 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Some Smartass Student at November 25, 2012 11:10 PM (LUnTP)
I had a fool (senior in high school) answer a T/F test with a written "possibly." This on a pretest for Confirmation. Little horses-ass thought he was oh so above it all--how could we know anything with certainty, and if God exists.... I told him that he could leave and not come back until the priest said he could be readmitted. Haven't seen the little shit in weeks.
Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 07:23 PM (VLG62)
I denounce myself.
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 11:19 PM (+AV7H)
I doubt it. Stupidity is equal opportunity.
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 07:23 PM (x/9BF)
I've got a sure fire strategy for my disgruntled conservative political foot-soldier.
1. Contact Cultists get materials list.
2. Go to Wallmart
3. Deliver materials to Cultists.
4. Let it Burn!
We are playing in modern times right? If not substitute Five and Dime for Wallmart.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 07:23 PM (GE1+K)
That's pretty impressive. My major technical achievement was replacing a battery in an iPod.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 25, 2012 07:23 PM (pwyhn)
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 25, 2012 07:23 PM (KCvsd)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:57 PM (GsoHv)
Heh. Best makes-sense-in-context comment of the week.
5 points to the House Goldwater.
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 25, 2012 07:23 PM (XkotV)
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I'd say no. I don't think there is much difference in the intellectual ability of men and women - though I think there is a statistically significant level of increased gullibility of the fairer sex.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2012 07:24 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 07:24 PM (LUnTP)
But I'm glad to hear you had a decent experience out of it. It would be even better to hear how you think that background helped you -- not in further study of academic history, but in other fields, and in, you know, the real world.
In Plague 101, did you read William McNeill's Plagues and Peoples? He has one precept in there I disagree with (I'm sure he's crushed, too), but overall he's one of the best history thinkers of an otherwise lost generation, and one ass-kicking son of a bitch, if I do say so myself. One of the real Chicago Boys.
Posted by: comatus at November 25, 2012 07:25 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 07:25 PM (bWwMZ)
Posted by: Gotenks at November 25, 2012 07:25 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 07:25 PM (GEICT)
I have a sword, obviously.
And a rocket launcher. Because I picked it up somewhere.
Posted by: Methos at November 25, 2012 07:25 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 07:26 PM (s765P)
Posted by: and irresolute at November 25, 2012 07:26 PM (DBH1h)
because I include an essay part to the quizzes.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:05 PM (d/5qf)
Seems to me that's your problem right there.
And, BTW, what kind of essays do you need in chemistry? "Detail your emotional reaction to methyl salicyclate -- include examples"?
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 07:26 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 11:23 PM (VLG62)
Wait... One of the questions was "Does God exist"?
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 07:26 PM (x/9BF)
Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 07:27 PM (LUnTP)
Prime Minister Cameron, for the loss!
Posted by: derit at November 25, 2012 07:27 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 07:27 PM (RXQ2T)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 07:27 PM (v8RoL)
Posted by: Gotenks at November 25, 2012 07:27 PM (aPAIU)
It's different from a Maine Surprise ... I think
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 07:28 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 07:28 PM (GEICT)
My mother sent me home with enough food to feed a small army. I don't know how she does it, she turned one turkey into ten thousand. I hardly had to shop at all this week. Turkey and cranberry sandwich will be amazing.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 25, 2012 07:29 PM (NzBQO)
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 07:29 PM (bWwMZ)
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Remember in the 80s when Reagan sent aid to both Iran and Iraq and they both were exhausted by fighting each other?
That's what we should root for.
My guess is Obamabi will wait until someone is clearly on top, then send them enough aid to finish the job...without feeling any obligation to the US since we decided late...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2012 07:29 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 07:29 PM (LUnTP)
Posted by: Ash at November 25, 2012 07:29 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: Ed Anger at November 25, 2012 07:30 PM (tOkJB)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 07:30 PM (s765P)
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 11:26 PM (x/9BF)
No, but apparently that was going to be his position in the class. Which is strictly for kids who want to be Confirmed in the Roman Catholic Church. Kid was just way too sophisticated, to the point of being imbecilic. It is generally assumed that if you wish to be Confirmed, that God is assumed to exist, at a minimum.
Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 07:31 PM (VLG62)
I don't have a problem with Libertarians. I have problems with intellectually inconsistent libertarians. Libertarians that admit law has a purpose to protect us from each other (Crime defined by a natural person suffering an injury to life, liberty or property) yet conveniently turn a blind eye to the right to live of the unborn declaring them summarily and arbitrarily non-persons. Libertarians that resent the concept of government regulation of human relations, yet, when asked about marriage, rather than assert it is not the function of government to recognize, sanction, encourage, or regulate any form of human relationship, they seek to broaden the existing government control of relationships to include new types; without realizing they are setting the stage to allow government control of all types of private relationships.
No I don't have problems with libertarians per se. Just the stupid ones.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 07:31 PM (GE1+K)
___
I know that one!
Hey, who let the Machine Elves in this chat room?
Posted by: Timothy Leary at November 25, 2012 07:31 PM (AUeaU)
I don't see any problem here.
Posted by: Geordi LaForge at November 25, 2012 07:31 PM (hO9ad)
I hear ya, currently waiting for my new motherboard to arrive after my old one shit the bed. It's amazing how cheap computer parts become just a few years after they come out, i actually went ahead and got a processor too they were so cheap, $60 for both for a computer only 3 years old.
Posted by: booger at November 25, 2012 07:31 PM (HI6wa)
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 07:32 PM (bWwMZ)
I have come to the conclusion, that most people deep down suck.
Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 25, 2012 07:32 PM (adaoe)
Posted by: The Political Hat at November 25, 2012 07:32 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: In Cognito at November 25, 2012 07:32 PM (cWpCn)
Yeah, that's pretty bad. At one point we'll look at that very similarly to how we now view the "libertarian" argument for slavery.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2012 07:33 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at November 25, 2012 07:33 PM (vGCek)
And so on ....
/somethingawful
Posted by: Derivative Role Playing Gamer at November 25, 2012 11:16 PM (bS6uW)
I'll start by driving the Shacklefords insane and consuming Sharon.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 07:33 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Nighthawk at November 25, 2012 07:34 PM (paPv4)
Posted by: CMU VET at November 25, 2012 07:34 PM (dPSpR)
Posted by: Ed Anger at November 25, 2012 11:30 PM (tOkJB)
That's pretty much the level of bullshit one has to pass through to get an architecture degree these days. Knowing everything there is to know about Bauhaus counts, but being able to show how to build a proper door frame and write the specs to have it installed does not.
Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 07:34 PM (VLG62)
Posted by: 349 at November 25, 2012 07:34 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Geordi LaForge at November 25, 2012 11:31 PM (hO9ad)
***
I saw Levar Burton on TV arguing with Bill O'Reilly that funding for PBS was beside the point.
Of course when the question is, "Should the government fund a TV channel?" you really have to reach to claim that said argument is beside the point.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2012 07:35 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 25, 2012 07:35 PM (tklPB)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 11:27 PM (RXQ2T)
I don't know about CS2 but butyric acid is like the distilled essence of vomit and diarrhea. Which of course makes it perfect for pranks and tomfoolery.
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 25, 2012 07:36 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at November 25, 2012 07:36 PM (vGCek)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 07:36 PM (s765P)
There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.” ― George Orwell
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 07:37 PM (wwsoB)
I denounce myself.
It would have more to do with the fact that they're education majors.
The degree should be eliminated.
Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 07:37 PM (HwgHt)
Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 07:37 PM (Ai+tZ)
Our understanding of "critical thinking" and theirs are not the same. I had a discussion along these lines with a former shipmate who is now a teacher (in Colorado). His version of "critical thinking" involves "recognizing the need for social justice" and "respect for the environment". And he was proud of teaching this to middle schoolers.
Posted by: Country Singer at November 25, 2012 07:37 PM (meVGV)
So does Vandelay University
Posted by: George Costanza at November 25, 2012 07:37 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Truman North at November 25, 2012 07:37 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: The Political Hat at November 25, 2012 07:38 PM (sZTYJ)
But for my money nothing smells as bad as CS2, carbon disulfide. It makes fresh yak vomit mixed with diarrhea and poured over moldy jockstraps smell down right pleasant.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 11:27 PM (RXQ2T)
I don't know what's in it, but raw crude oil smells awful.
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 07:38 PM (x/9BF)
Posted by: WOW DID I JUST WRITE THAT at November 25, 2012 07:38 PM (aPAIU)
actually, one of my extra credit questions on the final exam used to be along the lines of "suppose sodium, chlorine and neon were characters in a reality TV show in which they were roommates. describe the script of such a show - PG rated!". it was not worth many points, it was a way to enjoy the end of the semester actually. I got some fairly interesting answers too... students will tend to anthropomorphize sodium as male and chlorine as female
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 07:39 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: mpfs at November 25, 2012 07:39 PM (Mkhiu)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 07:39 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Nighthawk at November 25, 2012 07:40 PM (paPv4)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 07:40 PM (s765P)
Posted by: WOW DID I JUST WRITE THAT at November 25, 2012 07:40 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 07:42 PM (s765P)
Best example, the worshipful admiration of Obullshit by the elite, especially David Brooks
But they can string a lot of big words together
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 07:42 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Goodbye yal from alex the sockpuppeteer at November 25, 2012 07:42 PM (aPAIU)
Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 07:43 PM (HwgHt)
Posted by: AltonJackson at November 25, 2012 07:44 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: DaveA at November 25, 2012 07:44 PM (Xefrb)
Try caproic acid. It's also called hexanoic acid, but either way it stinks beyond belief.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 07:45 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Ed Anger at November 25, 2012 11:30 PM (tOkJB)
Not all architecture is a scam. Notre Dame actually has a good architecture program.
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:36 PM (s765P)
I sure as hell hope University of Oregon has a good program, 'cause my goddaughter's in it. And it's pricey.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 07:45 PM (kaalw)
My girlfriend Emily Cockinlocker discovered the Maetenlock Particle.
Posted by: Zombie Johnny Carson at November 25, 2012 07:45 PM (1sKK2)
Posted by: Zombie Albert Hoffman at November 25, 2012 07:45 PM (tOkJB)
try "cadaverene" or "putrescine"
you can guess what they smell like
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 07:46 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: Truman North at November 25, 2012 07:46 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 11:43 PM (HwgHt)
I understand that fashions are involved, but how much can you really deviate from the standard? If Vera Wang designs a crappy ball gown it's not going to collapse and kill people.
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 07:46 PM (x/9BF)
Posted by: In Cognito at November 25, 2012 07:47 PM (M7Cfv)
Not according to the anecdotal tales of self-denouncers getting off the train for the walk to the Siberian lumber camps or Great Leapers.
Posted by: DaveA at November 25, 2012 07:47 PM (Xefrb)
You act as though that is their goal when they are in charge.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 07:47 PM (GE1+K)
Anyway, in those days at certain schools, teachers did not receive the current Bachelor of Science in Education, BSEd, but a B.Ed. It was left over from the days when such schools were Normal Schools with two-year degrees, oddly, turning out some noteworthy teachers. That was before "pedagogy" and the Ed.D. Administrators around here all well - PhEd.
That's right, a Bed degree. Sadly, they weren't any smarter or quicker to learn there than anywhere else.
Mike/Moose, I'd like to give you a chance to take back that "shadows" crack. The philosophy student is not the one who says "How do we really know anything?" He is the one who can answer that question. As far as measuring shadows goes, I majored in philosophy, measured some exquisite ones, and retired at age 50 on my investments.
Posted by: comatus at November 25, 2012 07:49 PM (qaVK+)
The problems with you socons is your self righteous smugness. You would rather to revel in the purity of defeat than impurity of winning. Abortion is a dead issue, only socons care about it. You lost on this issue deal with it.
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 07:50 PM (g7C10)
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 07:50 PM (ANmol)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 07:50 PM (s765P)
I understand thatfashions are involved, but how much can you really deviate from the standard? If Vera Wang designs a crappy ball gown it's not going to collapse and kill people.
Well, one of the issues is that modern materials and engineering practices allow for much more complicated designs than in the past.
The modern skyscraper would not be possible with just wood, brick and mortar. You need high quality steel, and an array of technological advances to build it and maintain activity in it.
Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 07:51 PM (HwgHt)
Education majors remain at the bottom of the academic barrel after four years of college. The National Institute of Education conducted a study of student performance on examinations (LSAT, GMAT and GRE) to gain entrance to graduate schools. Of twenty-five different undergraduate study areas, students whose undergraduate major was education scored at the bottom or at best second from the bottom."
Dr. Thomas Sowell, "Inside American Education."
Posted by: Icedog at November 25, 2012 07:51 PM (PTS+l)
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 11:50 PM (g7C10)
Self righteous smugness? Well, if that is that not the pot calling the kettle black.
Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 25, 2012 07:52 PM (adaoe)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 25, 2012 07:53 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 11:43 PM (HwgHt)
I understand thatfashions are involved, but how much can you really deviate from the standard? If Vera Wang designs a crappy ball gown it's not going to collapse and kill people.
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 11:46 PM (x/9BF)
My experience with a local architecture firm was that they dealt with "big picture" items and had a local engineering firm prep blueprints. As an example, there are a ton of tilt-up buildings in Silicon Valley.....if they have little square accents of tile, they're likely designed by this architect. All the "behind the scenes" elements such as roof design were done by engineers (you can't typically see the roof of a tilt-up except by air -- the sides of the walls are a few feet higher). They sent people out to test the spray-on texture and verify the paint color and such.....but not inspect the glu-lams, or check the rebar.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 07:54 PM (kaalw)
Socons have caused nothing but trouble for the GOP. I can't wait when Santorum gets the nomination in 2016 and the GOP goes down to a 45 state loss. That is what it will take to remove the Socon cancer from the GOP.t
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 07:54 PM (g7C10)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 07:55 PM (RXQ2T)
Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 11:43 PM
That's what I saw with all those design submissions for the new World Trade Center.
OK, something for the artistes in SoHo to wack off to, but does it work? Can it withstand hurricane force winds without swaying like a metronome? Can it hold the glass in or will it shower lower the folks in Lower Manhattan with flying shards?
Most of all, will it hold up long enough to evacuate the occupants the next time some moderate peace loving muslims decide to land a plane on the 90th floor?
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 07:55 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Truman North at November 25, 2012 07:55 PM (I2LwF)
Democrats win because hey don't dismiss voters like Republicans. Instead all the GOP does is kiss the ass of socons.
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 07:55 PM (g7C10)
Posted by: Ed Anger at November 25, 2012 07:56 PM (tOkJB)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 07:56 PM (s765P)
Tell women to carry a rapists kid is a winning issue. We did and lost Senate seats because of that mindset. Understand this, no one cares about abortion! The Left has won oin this issue. Get over it and move on!
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 07:57 PM (g7C10)
Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 07:58 PM (Ai+tZ)
Posted by: Nighthawk at November 25, 2012 07:58 PM (paPv4)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 07:59 PM (s765P)
Posted by: In Cognito at November 25, 2012 07:59 PM (6Zy+s)
Posted by: Helga at November 25, 2012 07:59 PM (6+c2Y)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 08:00 PM (v8RoL)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 25, 2012 08:01 PM (xKC/c)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 25, 2012 08:01 PM (C8mVl)
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 11:45 PM
Tell us what she looks like so we can wave to her in the next "Occupy Portland" camp because she can't pay her student loans and she doesn't want to work for an evil developer
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 08:02 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Ed Anger at November 25, 2012 08:02 PM (tOkJB)
Socons believe the government should impose their values on society. That is not Conservative, but Progressive. Honestly I don't care about 50 million aborted babies. Not my problem. That is between the women and their conscience.
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 08:02 PM (g7C10)
Posted by: Truman North at November 25, 2012 08:03 PM (I2LwF)
To me a good architect is primarily concerned with function, aesthetics, and knows enough engineering to get 90% of the way there before bringing in any specialists for the tricky parts.
Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 08:03 PM (HwgHt)
Socons have caused nothing but trouble for the GOP. I can't wait when Santorum gets the nomination in 2016 and the GOP goes down to a 45 state loss. That is what it will take to remove the Socon cancer from the GOP.t
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 11:54 PM (g7C10)
Well at least we stand for something, with conviction. Good luck with democrat/communism lite!
You don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.
I voted Romney, shame on me!
Moderates ran and lost, lets keep running moderates/ democrats
No more libs/moderates/washington as usual
Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 25, 2012 08:03 PM (adaoe)
Posted by: Truman North at November 25, 2012 08:04 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 08:04 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 08:04 PM (RXQ2T)
Anyone who doesn't agree with the Socon group think is a troll. I remember when this blog was not Socon centric a few years back. Now it is bible thumping central.
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 08:04 PM (g7C10)
God bless that man for pulling my idealistic, mush-brained teen self from the liberal abyss just in time. It kinda hurt, though: he wasn't gentle. He's why I'm an organic chem type myself. But not wastewater treatment. Yuck. I wasn't all that fond of take your daughter to work day.
Posted by: Pentangle at November 25, 2012 08:04 PM (g9Bky)
Posted by: Methos at November 25, 2012 08:05 PM (hO9ad)
You stand for Big Government and defeat. Ideologically, you are not far off from the Democrats.
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 08:05 PM (g7C10)
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 25, 2012 08:06 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 08:06 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 08:06 PM (v8RoL)
I won't. The study of Philosophy, as such, is what has deluded most of man to think that structured society is not only possible, but preferable, so I consider it in general alongside of Political Science when I think of thoughts about the subject. As a matter of practical application I consider it very poorly. If you did very well with Philosophy as your primary area of study, good for you. I would say that the average BA in Philosophy is in for a rude awakening at graduation. And if a philosophy student taking chemistry (which would seem to suggest a general ed class, also meaning usually done in the first two years) can actually give a decent answer to the question as to whether we can really know anything (one would say there certainly is no definitive and final answer on that subject) I would be very surprised. Moreover success in investment, doesn't require any special knowledge about philosophy. To the extent that you have been successful can likely be better attributed to you as a person, and your abilities, rather than any time you might have spent pondering the nature of metaphysics while earning a degree.
So no. My dim view endures. And I think the modern philosophy department at the university level has but two goals. Producing Doctorate candidates from the talented and like minded, and leftist foot soldiers from the duffers. I wonder how many occupiers called themselves philosophers as that was the focus of their undergraduate degree.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 08:07 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 08:07 PM (s765P)
Socons are just another form of the Left. You are Fascists and seek to create a police state.
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 08:08 PM (g7C10)
Posted by: In Cognito at November 25, 2012 08:09 PM (HEWhR)
Posted by: Helga at November 25, 2012 11:59 PM (6+c2Y)
The law, itself, is 2700 pages. Most of it is outline, calling for regulations to be issued by everyone from the IRS to the HHS to various states in order to make it actually function. Since Every Single Regulation is going to gore someone's ox, they're all being contested vociferously by every "special interest" group imaginable (sample LGBT concern: is sexual reassignment mental health counseling for the underage covered?) and every voting bloc (conservatives: are we really supposed to pay for this BS?). Accordingly, that 2700 pages of law has blossomed into easily 500,000 catfights, all being performed simultaneously, and all at various stages of being LATE -- because it was all supposed to fall into place like a key turning in a lock.
There is no definitive list of regs, and there won't be until the dust has settled. In the meantime, we have YEARS of clusterfuck coming in like a tidal wave.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 08:10 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 08:10 PM (s765P)
Your cause has lost. But you still want to bully non Socons into silence. Typical of the Fascist scums you really are..
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 08:10 PM (g7C10)
He can call himself anything he likes, after tonight I'm just going to cal him the Ether-Bunny: (Possibly NSFW) http://scoamf.us/3Z
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 25, 2012 08:10 PM (xKC/c)
Posted by: Boomer Redneque says Let. It. All. Burn. The. Fuck. Down. at November 25, 2012 08:10 PM (eQnzo)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 08:11 PM (RXQ2T)
Anyone who doesn't agree with the Socon group think is a troll. I remember when this blog was not Socon centric a few years back. Now it is bible thumping central.
Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:04 AM
Yeh, that's why we quote Leviticus when we slobber over cheerleader boobehs, reference porn slang, and hit people like you with a Maine Surprise
Goeth forth to thy house and fetch thy fuckin' shine box
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 08:11 PM (wwsoB)
Ahh the abortion is murder argument. You can't compare an alive human to some cell in a woman's body. It's intellectually dishonest and makes you look like a loon. You have lost this argument anyway.
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 08:12 PM (g7C10)
No I don't. And won't get that. Because I cannot answer as to why any human has any rights, yet they have no rights. The question of law as a arbitrary arbiter, or a code that tries to accomplish justice is paramount to humanity. If it is the former, it does not deserve my allegiance, fealty, or respect.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 08:12 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:08 AM (g7C10)
Weren't you last going to reflect on your Catholic beliefs - or did that mood pass?
And since we're Fascists and all, you won't mind if we censor you right? Cuz it's our nature and all.
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 25, 2012 08:12 PM (XkotV)
Bullying...words? Now who sounds progressive?
Posted by: derit at November 25, 2012 08:12 PM (I88Jc)
You are hypocrites. I love when Socons get busted with drugs and porn. Social Conservatives is just an excuse to control society. It's American Fascism.
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 08:13 PM (g7C10)
Your cause has lost. But you still want to bully non Socons into silence. Typical of the Fascist scums you really are..
Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:10 AM
You sound like one of Ponytail McBikeseat's apostles
I wonder why that is
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 08:14 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 08:14 PM (s765P)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 08:15 PM (s765P)
It's only intellectually "dishonest" if the person speaking doesn't believe the unborn are persons. You are flying fast and loose with the English language on that one.
Proclaiming someone to look like a loon is a weak logical argument.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 08:15 PM (GE1+K)
You stand for Big Government and defeat. Ideologically, you are not far off from the Democrats.
Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:05 AM (g7C10)
Yep , thats it. You got me.
Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 25, 2012 08:15 PM (adaoe)
You are hypocrites. I love when Socons get busted with drugs and porn. Social Conservatives is just an excuse to control society. It's American Fascism.
Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:13 AM
You mad bro?
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 08:15 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 25, 2012 08:16 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 08:16 PM (g7C10)
Posted by: Nighthawk at November 25, 2012 08:16 PM (paPv4)
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 25, 2012 08:16 PM (KvKOu)
In other words, I must tow the Socon line. This blog really has changed from a few years back. Socons are now gods who can not be mocked.
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 08:17 PM (g7C10)
Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 25, 2012 08:17 PM (PALjS)
The cult leader of Diminutive Verdant Pigksins
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 08:17 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 25, 2012 08:17 PM (hGW9h)
Posted by: buzzion at November 25, 2012 08:18 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 25, 2012 08:18 PM (NzBQO)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 25, 2012 08:18 PM (Pw/dS)
Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 25, 2012 08:18 PM (PALjS)
with drugs and porn.
Everyone's a hypocrite. The only people the media want's to highlight as such are those who speak for morality and virtue. Being happy that someone was exposed as a hypocrite is like being happy water was proclaimed wet.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 08:19 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: Helga at November 25, 2012 08:19 PM (6+c2Y)
Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:17 AM (g7C10)
Not being a dick isn't a Socon thing. And isn't a new rule either.
Meanwhile the TB3K hungers.
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 25, 2012 08:19 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:13 AM (g7C10)
I know because every evil socon gets busted fot that, every single one!!
But obama had a plan to change the drone law if he lost the election so Romney would have been limited in its use, but obama won, so, yeah, he decided against that. So theres that, for facism.
Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 25, 2012 08:19 PM (adaoe)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 08:19 PM (s765P)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 08:20 PM (RXQ2T)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 25, 2012 08:20 PM (DoZD+)
In other words, I must tow the Socon line. This blog really has changed from a few years back. Socons are now gods who can not be mocked.
Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:17 AM
That's right, and we're not benevolent loving gods. We're gods who demand sacrifice and are empowered to line up to kick a troll in the balls who will not kneel before us
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 08:21 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: In Cognito at November 25, 2012 08:21 PM (PNi9V)
Posted by: Nighthawk at November 25, 2012 08:21 PM (paPv4)
Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 25, 2012 08:21 PM (PALjS)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 08:21 PM (s765P)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 25, 2012 08:21 PM (hGW9h)
Socons are no different than Democrats. You just disagree what the government should do. You both stand for control.
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 08:22 PM (g7C10)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 08:22 PM (RXQ2T)
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 26, 2012 12:19 AM
You don't go by the name Zod at times, do you?
All hail Z... er .. Maet .. uh ...
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 08:23 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 08:23 PM (s765P)
Posted by: Nighthawk at November 25, 2012 08:24 PM (paPv4)
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 08:24 PM (g7C10)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 25, 2012 08:25 PM (hGW9h)
>>>In other words, I must tow the Socon line. This blog really has changed from a few years back. Socons are now gods who can not be mocked.
meh. Every chance you fake Libertarians get you try to sell this line. You'll go away in a few months. The socons will still be here. And guess what. That's why they have so much sway. The classic "play by our rules or we go home" isn't a way to win friends or influence people in a coalition. But anger seems to be the way of so many who claim to be libertarians. I've often wondered why.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 08:26 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 25, 2012 08:27 PM (Pw/dS)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 25, 2012 08:27 PM (DoZD+)
The kind of effort you see when a special needs kid tries to fix a Windows error message
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 08:27 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2012 08:28 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Benito Mussolini at November 25, 2012 08:29 PM (sZTYJ)
Socons are no different than Democrats. You just disagree what the government should do. You both stand for control.
Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:22 AM (g7C10)
If a women gets an abortion, thats her sin. not mine. I dont want to pay for it. Oh, and fuck you!
Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 25, 2012 08:29 PM (adaoe)
Posted by: t-bird at November 25, 2012 08:30 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 25, 2012 08:30 PM (LqVsA)
Posted by: Dr. Mengele at November 25, 2012 08:30 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 08:31 PM (RXQ2T)
Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:17 AM (g7C10)
Hey, imbecile, the expression is "TOE the line," not "tow the line." But since you're so much smarter than the rest of us, I'm sure you knew that.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 25, 2012 08:31 PM (pwyhn)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 08:31 PM (s765P)
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 25, 2012 08:32 PM (KvKOu)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 25, 2012 08:32 PM (pwyhn)
Posted by: In Cognito at November 25, 2012 08:32 PM (GX2fm)
See, right there's your problem. "Modern philosophy" is not a major.
I spent a lot of time with the Pre-Socratics, and Aristotle. I encourage you to continue your interviews of the occupiers. Please get back to me as soon as you find an Aristotelian there. You might ask about Aquinas, too.
Posted by: comatus at November 25, 2012 08:32 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 25, 2012 08:32 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 25, 2012 08:32 PM (Pw/dS)
Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 25, 2012 08:33 PM (PALjS)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:21 AM
No, it's not sweetums sullivan, it's the other formerly relevant blogger who takes beach photographs that look like they were shot by an Asperberger's patient with glaucoma
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 08:33 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 08:33 PM (s765P)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 08:33 PM (s765P)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 25, 2012 08:35 PM (LqVsA)
Posted by: Margaret Sanger at November 25, 2012 08:37 PM (Pw/dS)
Posted by: In Cognito at November 25, 2012 08:37 PM (cWpCn)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 25, 2012 08:37 PM (LqVsA)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 25, 2012 08:39 PM (LqVsA)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 08:39 PM (s765P)
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 08:40 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 08:40 PM (s765P)
Posted by: USPS Day Pool at November 25, 2012 08:41 PM (Pw/dS)
Time for bed. I gotta work tomorrow so I can pay some baby daddys food stamps so he can use his currency to get a new tattoo for Christmas.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 25, 2012 08:42 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 08:42 PM (RXQ2T)
Like Da BEARS
I'm just going to assume you misspelled "beers".
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 25, 2012 08:42 PM (C9q3o)
Posted by: Butters at November 25, 2012 08:42 PM (NIZHJ)
You can trust the Ministry of Truth.
Its Charles Johnson who manages the swirling vortex known as LGF.
Posted by: Winston Smith (Islam edition) at November 25, 2012 08:43 PM (QCK5m)
Looks to me like having a state legislature run by Democrats makes people score low on tests.
Posted by: crosspatch at November 25, 2012 08:43 PM (ZbLJZ)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 25, 2012 08:43 PM (Pw/dS)
Katya, no hell list?
My mood for it fell by the wayside. But I'm an angry, fascist socon so I'm sure my ire will return and I'll be back on it soon.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 25, 2012 08:43 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 25, 2012 08:44 PM (LqVsA)
good night!
Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:40 AM (s765P)
Its an old sad blog, lgf.
Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 25, 2012 08:45 PM (adaoe)
Well, think of the career of Adam West had he been a blogger
Nobody uses his name because he's a paranoid who actually coded an alert system to see who was talking about him. Then he uses that to start a blog war in order to try to revive his dying blog
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 08:45 PM (wwsoB)
See, right there's your problem. "Modern philosophy" is not a major.
I spent a lot of time with the Pre-Socratics, and Aristotle. I encourage you to continue your interviews of the occupiers. Please get back to me as soon as you find an Aristotelian there. You might ask about Aquinas, too.
1. I didn't use "Modern" to modify "Philosophy" it was used to modify "Department": Meaning a philosophy department of modern times.
You think my disdain of the subject means I am wholly unfamiliar with it? That Ethics, and Politics do not occupy a space of pride alongside Two Treatises of Government and the Federalist Papers in my Library? That I might not know Pythagoras was a Philosopher and to an extent a cultist? No I wave my hand curtly at the study as the elite of the subject wholly reject or ignore the philosophies I find the most relevant, meaningful, and coincidentally practical. It has soured my mouth not to the learning of philosophy, which in earnest has been an interest for some years, just to the University study of Philosophy, which at least by my anecdote and observation, by and large gave up the search for wisdom and replaced it with a search for power. They themselves fell prey to the mythical ring of Gyges; Having first obtained influence in modern affairs and they had the intent at seeking justice, eventually broadened the idea of "justice" until it meant more and more power to the intellectual class. As we see both persons the moral and immoral are the same, the only difference is the time frame to totalitarianism.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 08:45 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: Deety at November 25, 2012 08:45 PM (QG3g9)
Posted by: Pentangle at November 25, 2012 08:45 PM (g9Bky)
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 11:45 PM
Tell us what she looks like so we can wave to her in the next "Occupy Portland" camp because she can't pay her student loans and she doesn't want to work for an evil developer
Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:02 AM (wwsoB)
Her mom is one of my dearest friends -- but is an odd sort of lib. She'll vote the party line, but (a) runs her own business; (b) has 3 great kids; (c) takes care of her own; (d) decided that the BH and I should be her kids' godparents; (e) kept her kids out of public education; (f) does not gloat to us about the state of politics in California and the US; and so on. Her brother collects guns; her sister homeschooled. Except for the reflexive anti-Republicanism, she's a whole lot like....a conservative.
She allows us an active role with the kids, and we've tried to go beyond surface talking points and help them understand how things work -- everything from "always have a plan, a backup plan, and a bailout plan whenever you start a fire -- and know where your resources are" to "here's the guys rebuilding our kitchen -- hi, guys!; hi, kids! -- here's how we take care of them -- there's fans up in the attic so they don't cook, we have plenty of water, we make them take breaks (while we keep paying), we give them dust masks.....and here's the beautiful work they do, and this is especially nice...."
They are great kids, and we do what we can to have them grow up right. I can recall one "I hate W" talk that was like a punch in the gut, but we kept questioning and found it to be just a slogan heard somewhere. Kids, y'know?
But the young lady who's a duck isn't likely to be in an Occupy camp. From what I can tell, she's working harder than I did when I was in college -- and I did a nominal 4-year degree in 3-1/2 years while about half of my cohort did theirs in 5 . I just hope the program is worthy of her.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 08:47 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 25, 2012 08:47 PM (C8mVl)
Enjoying a resurgence of nostalgia on the back of a provincial hack, Seth McFarlham? What a lucky SOB!
Posted by: Dan Rather at November 25, 2012 08:48 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 25, 2012 08:48 PM (LqVsA)
Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:45 AM (wwsoB)
oh shit, did I just summon him?
Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 25, 2012 08:48 PM (adaoe)
Posted by: Winston Smith (Islam edition) at November 25, 2012 08:49 PM (QCK5m)
God bless that man for pulling my idealistic, mush-brained teen self from the liberal abyss just in time. It kinda hurt, though: he wasn't gentle. He's why I'm an organic chem type myself. But not wastewater treatment. Yuck. I wasn't all that fond of take your daughter to work day.
Posted by: Pentangle at November 26, 2012 12:04 AM (g9Bky)
My dad ended up designing and building wastewater plants.....and I ended up auditing them. They are fascinating and worthwhile in an "upwind" kind-of way.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 08:50 PM (kaalw)
I hope she stays true to her upbringing. Universities take in bright kids and turn out slogan chanting leftist wackos
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 08:50 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 25, 2012 08:51 PM (LqVsA)
>>>I suspect (?) that your contempt for philosophy has less to do with the thing itself so much as what it becomes in the hands of the Left, which corrupts everything it touches.
True enough. I should have been clearer. I have respect for Philosophy, just very little for University Philosophy programs.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 08:51 PM (GE1+K)
Only if you look in the mirror and say his name five times
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 08:51 PM (wwsoB)
Wife just texted me, looks like Wretch and Scumbag are going to jail. Would have been nice a month ago, jerks. BTW Wretch refused a drug test at the hospital. I'm sure that wasn't a giant flashing warning sign or anything.
I swear the next time I see a cop in this town I'm going to go off on him.
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 26, 2012 12:32 AM (KvKOu)
Sorry to hear about this, and it really sucks going through all the red tape to get anything done. I had a family member that had a real bad substance abuse problem, and there was very little we could do. The cops would only do something if this person became a danger to themselves. Being a danger to everyone else by driving or doing stupid shit was okay, but if they talked about suicide, then they would get involved.
Lesson learned, if you want to have a loved one committed for treatment, lie and tell the cops/magistrate that the person talked about committing suicide. But a word of caution, it only works once.
Posted by: MrCaniac at November 25, 2012 08:52 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Abe Froman at November 25, 2012 08:53 PM (E55AK)
Here's how he gets summoned by his apostles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onntXB7qRts
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 08:53 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 25, 2012 08:55 PM (Pw/dS)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 25, 2012 08:55 PM (C8mVl)
Night all.
ether description via urban dictionary
It makes you behave like the village drunkard in some early irish novel ... total loss of all basic motor skills: blurred vision, no balance, numb ... or it gets huffed, yeah, loving the name
Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 25, 2012 08:55 PM (adaoe)
Watching H2, It finally dawned on me why chankles idolizes Ellenore Roosevelt. They are both conceded power hungry bitches.
Posted by: Infidel at November 25, 2012 08:56 PM (6gXNv)
Posted by: and irresolute at November 25, 2012 08:56 PM (DBH1h)
So, did engineering get easier, or did they leave something out?
Posted by: comatus at November 25, 2012 08:57 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Helga at November 26, 2012 12:19 AM (6+c2Y)
Preliminary regulations are issued by each part of government. For instance, here's where you can start for HHS: http://www.hhs.gov/regulations/index.html . The problem is, there's gazillions of them, and they're everywhere. The last place to look is with doctors -- half of them [overeducated] still believe [overeducated] that nothing bad [overeducated] will ever happen to them [overeducated] because the government is involved [overeducated].
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 08:58 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 12:56 AM (6gXNv)
And they both want to visit the Isle of Lesbos.
Posted by: MrCaniac at November 25, 2012 08:59 PM (Zd/NW)
It makes you behave like the village drunkard in some early irish novel ... total loss of all basic motor skills: blurred vision, no balance, numb ...
Shit that describes me too, must go to bed, tee hee. Night all!
Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 25, 2012 08:59 PM (adaoe)
So, did engineering get easier, or did they leave something out?
Drafting.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 09:00 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 09:00 PM (RXQ2T)
The Oakland Outreach News Team is ready for anything (with a ring of steel).
Posted by: Rep. Dirk Diggler at November 25, 2012 09:01 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 12:56 AM (6gXNv)
I thought it was because they were both big lesbians.
Such a great clip in Wedding Crashers.
Posted by: buzzion at November 25, 2012 09:01 PM (GULKT)
I was just being snarky - they really are fascinating. I didn't like to touch anything when I was there, though! My favorite part (at least in our area, your plants may differ) are the sand filtration beds. All that technology, chemistry, flashing lights, red buttons [do *not* touch, missy] and it all comes down to the system the ancient Egyptians used. And snails. Snails are cool.
Posted by: Pentangle at November 25, 2012 09:02 PM (g9Bky)
Hello me M+M's,
Jus wanted to post on my most excellent "MAN!" day out on the ocean fishing the front side of Santa Cruz Island with other men focused on the primal hunter-gatherer limbic ...or is that adrenal-cotrex gland infussion....but I digress, took the big fish pot with an 18lb ling-cod and the the 12 year old scotch bottles came out with Arturo Fuentes and HOLY SHIT the ghost of PAPPA walked amoung'st us like Islands in the Stream.....such a day....like 9 years since such a day....it was good to be on the ocean....it was so very good.
Posted by: DOC. at November 25, 2012 09:03 PM (Nape+)
You can trust the Ministry of Truth.
Its Charles Johnson who manages the swirling vortex known as LGF.
Posted by: Winston Smith (Islam edition) at November 26, 2012 12:43 AM (QCK5m)
Aiiiieeeeee!! You said THE NAME!!!!!!!!
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 09:04 PM (kaalw)
And they both want to visit the Isle of Lesbos.
Yep. We've been screwed for over 70 years.
*****
Ahh the abortion is murder argument. You can't compare an alive human to some cell in a woman's body. It's intellectually dishonest and makes you look like a loon. You have lost this argument anyway.
Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:12 AM (g7C10)
Fuck you. I put a baby up for adoption. There is no (little) reason to kill an unborn child.
Posted by: Infidel at November 25, 2012 09:04 PM (6gXNv)
Posted by: Cato at November 25, 2012 09:06 PM (gbppU)
Posted by: buzzion at November 25, 2012 09:09 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: comatus at November 26, 2012 12:57 AM
Math is racist!
Posted by: Caltech at November 25, 2012 09:10 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 09:11 PM (bWwMZ)
I was just being snarky - they really are fascinating. I didn't like to touch anything when I was there, though! My favorite part (at least in our area, your plants may differ) are the sand filtration beds. All that technology, chemistry, flashing lights, red buttons [do *not* touch, missy] and it all comes down to the system the ancient Egyptians used. And snails. Snails are cool.
Posted by: Pentangle at November 26, 2012 01:02 AM (g9Bky)
It gets even funnier. When I was in Santa Barbara, auditing wastewater plants (the firm where I worked had a specialty), I was living in shared quarters with two guys [and 1200 gallons of fish] who worked at tropical fish stores......where filtration and purification of closed systems was vitally important. And one of the "analog" tests of the output of one plant was surviving fish in the processing channel.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 09:13 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Deety at November 25, 2012 09:17 PM (QG3g9)
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 26, 2012 12:16 AM (KvKOu)
No. Don't torture yourself.
I'm sorry. Don't torture yourself. Try to remember, he is in God's hands now and in a better place. The Wrech and bf with get their comupance in the end.
My condolences.
Posted by: Infidel at November 25, 2012 09:18 PM (6gXNv)
Posted by: Exasperated Expat at November 25, 2012 09:22 PM (xV30b)
Posted by: Deety at November 25, 2012 09:23 PM (QG3g9)
Sorry for the loss of the innocent child. Even if you had done what you wanted, the same would have probably happened once the legal system and CPS did it's thing
The child's death is torment enough for you, don't do it to yourself further.
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 09:25 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 09:26 PM (GE1+K)
It would a total and complete fucking shame if something were to happen to them. Really, it would.
Posted by: navybrat at November 25, 2012 09:26 PM (r1ty1)
They never forget their cell phone, but you know, it's so easy to forget you left a kid in the car while gossiping with the girls in the nail salon
Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 09:29 PM (wwsoB)
So I send her a nice email, she reads the email, and then.... that's it.
So I'm wondering, where did all that love go? What does it mean when women say they have so much love to give and share, and yet that never seems to be enough to respond to a simple, nice email?
And yes I was very polite and mentioned details in her profile to show I read it too. None of this, hey baby come sit on my face! silliness. I only do that for Craigslist anyway.
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 10:45 PM (+AV7H)
Might I suggest that you spend some time reflecting on some distraction, totally unrelated to dating sites, such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowerbird
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 09:30 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Infidel at November 25, 2012 09:30 PM (6gXNv)
Posted by: Exasperated Expat at November 25, 2012 09:36 PM (xV30b)
My wife lost the last 2 in 1st trimester,
Yet I was blessed with 5 very great kids. Someone who can just snuff out an obvious human life because the life was an "inconvience" to their own personal life "at the moment"...........I will not state further least I gain a banhammer for the most honest of statements...and the most obvious of truths.
Posted by: DOC. at November 25, 2012 09:39 PM (Nape+)
598
Totally agree. What can we do about it but hunker down and rebuild when the time comes? Admittedly I live in a red area, but my state still went for TFG and we have 2 dems sentators.
Let it Burn.
Posted by: Infidel at November 25, 2012 09:40 PM (6gXNv)
So, did engineering get easier, or did they leave something out?
Posted by: comatus at November 26, 2012 12:57 AM (qaVK+)
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it takes a lot, if not most, engineers more than 8 semesters to finish. To do the 4 year catalog, a student has to show up ready to do calc-based physics immediately as a freshman.
Posted by: jc at November 25, 2012 09:44 PM (kfC1R)
Posted by: derit at November 25, 2012 09:46 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: Exasperated Expat at November 25, 2012 09:47 PM (xV30b)
Hmm well. When it comes to respecting University programs, I'd like to
point out that right through the 1960's, it took five years to get an
engineering degree.
So, did engineering get easier, or did they leave something out?
Posted by: comatus at November 26, 2012 12:57 AM (qaVK+)
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it takes a lot, if not most, engineers more than 8 semesters to finish. To do the 4 year catalog, a student has to show up ready to do calc-based physics immediately as a freshman.
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 01:44 AM (kfC1R)
Most engineering programs also do Co-Ops now which are paid internships. You actually go out and work in the field for a company, or government or university. I had the typical 4 year program but with the Co-ops happening on alternating semesters it actually took 4 and a half.
Posted by: buzzion at November 25, 2012 09:50 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Infidel at November 25, 2012 09:51 PM (6gXNv)
Posted by: Infidel at November 25, 2012 10:02 PM (6gXNv)
Posted by: Deety at November 25, 2012 10:06 PM (QG3g9)
Posted by: Steven Seagal at November 25, 2012 10:08 PM (4ixH5)
Goodevening Robert. How's it hanging?
Sorry, being a smart ass. Can't sleep and the pain pill for the knee hasn't kicked in yet.
Posted by: Infidel at November 25, 2012 10:13 PM (6gXNv)
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 11:38 PM (x/9BF)
Some heavy crude is loaded with sulfur compounds, and it does stink. Some light crude smells more like naptha, or Coleman lantern fuel, which is quite pleasant.
But it all smells like money.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 25, 2012 10:15 PM (pFqpP)
Posted by: Infidel at November 25, 2012 10:25 PM (6gXNv)
Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 02:25 AM (6gXNv)
===
nope. I live in the Cook Inlet drainage.
Posted by: jc at November 25, 2012 10:31 PM (kfC1R)
Posted by: Infidel at November 25, 2012 10:34 PM (6gXNv)
Posted by: Deety at November 25, 2012 10:41 PM (QG3g9)
Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 02:41 AM (QG3g9)
I see you don't dispute my being huge and deadly.
*Karate chops a doughnut*
Posted by: Steven Seagal at November 25, 2012 10:43 PM (4ixH5)
At the peak of the summer it never really gets dark, just kinda dusk for a while and then light again. Then the time changes pretty fast. During much of the year, except right at the equinox, it is 5-6 minutes lighter/darker than the day before. On Dec 20-21, there is daylight from about 9:30 AM to about 4 PM.
So, the most important thing is to get outside in the day. Fresh air makes all the difference. A lot of us also take Vit D supplements, and some folks keep full spectrum lights around.
A lot of the dark issues are offset by the holidays. There is a lot of activity and cheerful people and it goes right by without much notice.
In Jan/Feb, a lot of people go on vacation. All year round there are a lot of direct flights to HI and the islands are always packed with Alaskans.
The weirdest thing isn't the dark. The weirdest thing is there is no such thing as a warm night. If it dark, it isn't warm, and if it is warm, it isn't dark.
Posted by: jc at November 25, 2012 10:44 PM (kfC1R)
Disagree. Laws punishing murder are "preaching and imposing morality". Any existing law is an imposition of a moral standard. Even a complete lack of laws is a moral standard of sorts. (Which ends up being the Law of the Jungle. Can't get away from laws.)
If men were angels, we wouldn't need government. We know men aren't angels, so we do need a government, and governments (and politicians) pop up wherever men gather. The key concept that differentiates American conservatism from the rest is that we're for a limited government.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 25, 2012 10:44 PM (vQPpd)
Posted by: Deety at November 25, 2012 10:45 PM (QG3g9)
Problem is, tomorrow's the only day it's not supposed to rain. So I need to jump all over it tomorrow, or just blow it off.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 10:47 PM (kaalw)
Two significant studies have been done on this quesion, "Who's more stupid on economics, conservatives or liberals?" They've been based on accumulated and ongoing results from the Pew Foundation's polls. Answer, by a country mile: "Liberals are economic RETARDS." Not surprising given the psychology and belief system of the Left. Their world can't happen in this one. They deny this one. And you knew it all along, didn't you, Christians? Who stand accused by these cretins for believing in Flying Spaghetti Monsters and so forth? You are the last ones surprised.
Posted by: Cowboy at November 25, 2012 10:51 PM (WcgMM)
Posted by: Deety at November 25, 2012 10:54 PM (QG3g9)
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Not in agreement. To me, it all comes down to just one question: who owns your life? Murder is wrong because it is taking a life you don't own. Slavery is wrong because it is siphoning off a life you don't own.
Morality doesn't have to be time honored, or traditional in any form. There is a simple way to check the morality of any issue --- would you still be for a law/policy/activity whether or not it is being done (or has to be done): a) for you, b) by you, or c) to you? Note that almost all leftists tend to fail this test at almost every turn. Note that socons and libertarians rarely do.
In the end, socons create a problem that is very difficult to overcome -- the biggest problem with leftists if they tend to favor a society without any adults and imagine a Big Mommy govt that will take care of everyone. When socons favor Bid Daddy govt that will keep everyone in line, they make the position of leftists seem somewhat plausible.
The voices that point out that history actually included times when people were supposed to grow up are not entirely wrong. Of course, there are multiple sides to the point, including:
a) in the mid 19th century, a person who owned their own body and had the money could buy just about any drug over the counter at practically any age,
b) in the mid 19th century, you might find yourself on trial and see the judge/jury passing white lighting back and forth rather than listening to what you had to say,
c) Carrie Nation and that batch of dingbats did a lot of good and a lot of harm in a lot of ways, and not all libertarians are wrong when they point it out,
d) people who claim to own your decisions about any one part of your life often can't find any reasonable line to stop -- they may not be able to run their own life, but they damn sure can run yours.
Posted by: jc at November 25, 2012 11:01 PM (kfC1R)
Posted by: model_1066 at November 25, 2012 11:04 PM (E23Tl)
Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 02:47 AM (kaalw)
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Ah, a fine chance to cheat. Spray paint, with a topcoat of spray poly. cheating, but fast and dry real quick. enough top coats and you can get a nice deep luster. my preference is semi-gloss, but just depends on what you like.
second cheaters choice for a wood grain look -- linseed oil with plain old ordinary artist oil paint (like bob ross) for color. -- however, be really careful with the rags, cuz they will spontaneously combust. Again, topcoat with spray cans of poly works great.
Posted by: jc at November 25, 2012 11:06 PM (kfC1R)
Posted by: Baldy at November 25, 2012 11:19 PM (opS9C)
Murder is wrong ...
This is not a moral statement?
To clarify, I disagree with the core philosophy of libertarianism, as I understand them from reading libertarians. I do think we can create a coalition and work together for a limited government.
If men were angels, we wouldn't need gov't. Do you see evidence of angel-hood around you? Was Obama elected by angels? Do those people instantly become angels once the Leviathan is dismantled?
Socons are fighting a cultural war, and politics cannot be neatly seperated from culture. It is a failure of social conservatives that we surrendered education, media and other cultural institutions to leftists, but it does not follow that a surrender of the political institutions would improve our position or achieve our objectives.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 25, 2012 11:20 PM (vQPpd)
Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 02:47 AM (kaalw)
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Ah, a fine chance to cheat. Spray paint, with a topcoat of spray poly. cheating, but fast and dry real quick. enough top coats and you can get a nice deep luster. my preference is semi-gloss, but just depends on what you like.
second cheaters choice for a wood grain look -- linseed oil with plain old ordinary artist oil paint (like bob ross) for color. -- however, be really careful with the rags, cuz they will spontaneously combust. Again, topcoat with spray cans of poly works great.
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 03:06 AM (kfC1R)
When we moved into the place, in '97, there was a plan. Exterior walls were Behr's "New England Grey" in flat and exterior doors were Behr's "Provincetown" in satin (or v-v for the colors, I don't remember). Trim was "Pine Tree" or some such.....but when we re-roofed, the gutters got done in a different green.
So, now, there are a few problems: (1) Behr had to switch colorants and bases because of California anti-VOC regs; (2) sunbleached colors don't match new colors; (3) old green trim and gutters are different; (4) some of the "touch-up" paints we have are over a decade old.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 11:30 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 26, 2012 03:20 AM (vQPpd)
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socons are losing a cultural war, and in no small part because they refuse to accept good allies.
libertarians can reach leftists, if given a real chance. when a libertarian is explaining life to a dipshit leftist, it usually all boils down to -- "you know son, your biggest problem is that you are just refusing to grow the fuck up." -- And, while that attempt to reach the moonbat is going on, there is usually some socon that comes along and gets in the way of the explanation and condemns the libertarian for giving it a try.
food for thought -- real adults, that take full responsibility for the ownership of their own lives -- maybe, just maybe, are not the people that concern you.
Posted by: jc at November 25, 2012 11:36 PM (kfC1R)
That goes on for a long time. Finally, I quit Firefox and reboot the blog and now I am able to comment. Whatever...
The basic issue is that we will never again see a candidate for limited government. The reason is that such a candidate will never again be elected. The locusts have won. Let them have their victory. It will be short lived. After that, who knows? Not me.
Posted by: navybrat at November 25, 2012 11:37 PM (r1ty1)
Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 03:30 AM (kaalw)
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fine candidate for artist colors in an oil (linseed or other) base. Your ability to control color will have very few limits. Go bob ross on the damn thing, but don't you dare say anything about "happy little trees."
But, careful with the rags !!!
Posted by: jc at November 25, 2012 11:40 PM (kfC1R)
second cheaters choice for a wood grain look -- linseed oil with plain old ordinary artist oil paint (like bob ross) for color. -- however, be really careful with the rags, cuz they will spontaneously combust. Again, topcoat with spray cans of poly works great.
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 03:06 AM (kfC1R)
Thing is, the door is the wrong color in the first place. And it has an engraved doorknocker that says "Graves" -- which was the family who lived here in the 80's (there was a major remodel in 1986). One of the parts to this project is replacing the doorknocker -- we're kind o' thinking this one http://tinyurl.com/c2bev4j engraved with either "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" or "Iä!
Iä!
Cthulhu fhtagn!"
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 11:45 PM (kaalw)
switch colorants and bases because of California anti-VOC regs; (2)
sunbleached colors don't match new colors; (3) old green trim and
gutters are different; (4) some of the "touch-up" paints we have are
over a decade old.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 03:30 AM (kaalw)
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fine candidate for artist colors in an oil (linseed or other) base. Your ability to control color will have very few limits. Go bob ross on the damn thing, but don't you dare say anything about "happy little trees."
But, careful with the rags !!!
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 03:40 AM (kfC1R)
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Oh, when your are at the arts/crafts store, don't grab the acrylic paint tubes by mistake. won't mix right.
Posted by: jc at November 25, 2012 11:46 PM (kfC1R)
Iä!
Cthulhu fhtagn!"
Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 03:45 AM (kaalw)
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madness !!
Posted by: jc at November 25, 2012 11:48 PM (kfC1R)
Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 03:45 AM (kaalw)
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madness !!
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 03:48 AM (kfC1R)
Yeah....the BH and I are trying to decide which one is better.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 11:55 PM (kaalw)
Yeah....the BH and I are trying to decide which one is better.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 03:55 AM (kaalw)
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go with the short one. less possibility of misspelling -- ;-))
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 12:06 AM (kfC1R)
Yeah....the BH and I are trying to decide which one is better.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 03:55 AM (kaalw)
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go with the short one. less possibility of misspelling -- ;-))
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 04:06 AM (kfC1R)
We can fix typos before we put it on the door. Here's a pic of hangin' with the homies -- http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/180/img2370z.jpg
Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 12:11 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 12:13 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 12:19 AM (kfC1R)
Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 12:27 AM (QG3g9)
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 04:19 AM (kfC1R)
A spray? To attract more?
Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 12:31 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 04:27 AM (QG3g9)
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and that shall be the last of the conversation for an eternity.
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 12:37 AM (kfC1R)
Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 04:31 AM (kaalw)
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do you need more?
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 12:46 AM (kfC1R)
Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 12:47 AM (QG3g9)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 26, 2012 12:48 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 04:31 AM (kaalw)
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do you need more?
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 04:46 AM (kfC1R)
Need?.....no. Could appreciate more?......Sure! (Note: I have a Halloween Cthulhu plush packed away with Halloween stuff that is not included in this pic.)
Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 12:51 AM (kaalw)
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every election there is some ralph reed or jerry falwell sort that claims "we would have won" except their group stayed home. I am not about insulting them. I can let them live in peace for an eternity.
I absolutely know the meaning of MYOB, and I practice it all day, every day. The socons I actually know do that, too. And they help people who need help as long as a person will help themselves, too. Yet, for many, when the subject turns to politics, MYOB goes out the window. To me, that is a damn shame because the MYOB is at the very heart of the ethic that makes it all worthwhile.
I am sorry that you are offended by it. I really am. However, if a few voices lamenting the loss of the MYOB ethic is enough to fracture society there wasn't much left anyway.
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 01:10 AM (kfC1R)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 26, 2012 01:21 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 26, 2012 01:27 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 01:29 AM (QG3g9)
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 05:10 AM (kfC1R)
No, no you can't.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 26, 2012 05:21 AM (bxiXv)
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time will tell. If you think having my own opinion within the privacy of my own home is more than they can bear, maybe you are right. doesn't match the people I know IRL
Remember, this whole conversation tonight started with the general assertion that socons don't need libertarians, and the unstated but certainly implied premise that libertarians are somehow a lower form of life than socons. From there you lumped me in with Frum and McCain. Oh well, no one ever said the internet was fair.
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 01:30 AM (kfC1R)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 26, 2012 01:33 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 26, 2012 01:36 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Clemenza at November 26, 2012 01:40 AM (afx6B)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 26, 2012 01:43 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 01:44 AM (QG3g9)
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If I have ever been as rude to you as you are to me, I apologize. If not, I have nothing more to say to you.
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 01:48 AM (kfC1R)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at November 26, 2012 02:06 AM (8h1F2)
Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 02:28 AM (QG3g9)
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Communication is what the receiver assigns -- so let me try to relay how it came out on my end --
you jumped in with something that has been bothering you -- that the socons are getting pushed around, and it was addressed to me. In fact, you said it was "pathetic" and your message read to me as an admonishment to silence.
Now, you have changed my message, which read "socons refuse good allies" into the exact opposite, "that socons are not good enough allies." Further, that I claim victim status. I will table that discussion for now.
Back to the point -- If you are telling me that socons are such fragile little flowers that they cannot exist in a world where someone agrees with them about 85% of most things and 100% of all the most important things, then I can only tell you again that it does not match the people I know in real life. I am related to them, I live with them, I love them, I work with them, and when appropriate I pray with them. They are just not like what you are asserting. They don't quit, and they vote. Neither me, nor anyone else, can have the effect on them that you are suggesting.
If the socons you know are different in that way, then I can only conclude that you and I must travel in very different social circles.
Also, I checked, and I am still a person.
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 02:31 AM (kfC1R)
Posted by: rickb223 Let It Burn at November 26, 2012 02:54 AM (d0Dmj)
Posted by: Clemenza at November 26, 2012 02:55 AM (afx6B)
Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 03:33 AM (QG3g9)
Was not my intent to engage a flame-war.
Just pushed some buttons in me that might be new to you, older than the sands, and probably trod to death by wiser men than you or I about 400 yrs ago.
Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 07:33 AM (QG3g9)
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accepted, done, forgiven, and forgotten.
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 03:37 AM (kfC1R)
Posted by: Sexypig at November 26, 2012 03:56 AM (RhBMQ)
Posted by: Sexypig at November 26, 2012 03:59 AM (RhBMQ)
Sure. Sprinkle in some vulgarity, agree with the leftist principles that condemn unborn to murder, agree that gov't needs to get in the business of recognizing homosexual relationships, and soon you'll make a principled libertarian out of a leftist.
Who is willing to claim the cool "libertarian" label, but still think it's a wonderful idea for the gov't to step in to fix all of life's problems. You let him keep all of his socially leftist principles, after all, on all those "consenting adult" issues.
We have fundamentally different principles, and socons, as conservatives, aren't going to deny their base principles for political gain. You want to convert leftists into libertarians, but you seem to think the existence of socons prevents it. If so, you're on as quixotic a quest as us socons. The MSM will always remind leftists that evil scary socons exist. They will gin up the outrage, manufacture quotes, and all the other things they did this past election.
"Be less scary" isn't practical advice, because it's about the base principles, and the media/educational institutions will frame those principles with a leftist PoV. "Shut up" doesn't work even if you got the socons to do it, because the media will find something. This is the hand we're dealt by life, and I don't see any simple solutions.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 26, 2012 05:42 AM (vQPpd)
Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 07:01 AM (QG3g9)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at November 26, 2012 07:08 AM (8h1F2)
But because the last few generations haven't experienced "real" liberalism (ie 70% tax rates, rushing inflation, etc) they feel comfortable voting Democrat.
They look at it as a luxury that's worth paying for, like going to a nice restaurant where you over pay for a glass of wine. Yes, Obama might mean a 3% raise in their taxes, but they're not religious and to them , Republicans are the "Church Party".
My problem with the modern SoCon wing is that it's largely now just abstract symbolism on a single issue that's costing us votes. Abortion has about as much of a chance to become criminalized as homosexuality. And don't even get me started on the Akin, Santorum, Huckabee stance regarding rape and abortion. That nonsense easily cost Romney 1-2% nationally.
Social conservatism WAS popular because there were also issues like getting tough on crime, capital punishment, school busing, etc, that appealed to lower income voters; but those issues are now largely irrelevant because "we" won. Now it's 90% abortion, and it to a more secular America, it's costing us heavily.
So why exactly are we losing more and more voters of an issue that's more of a statement of faith than a real issue of public policy? Because when you look at those two lists, the country is only going to look a lot more like the "blue" list than the "red" list.
Posted by: McAdams at November 26, 2012 07:24 AM (1sN+R)
If communication is what the receiver assigns, there is no communication.
Hrm, if the first part was true, the sender wouldn't have to say anything at all!
"I take your silence to mean that you are okay with me taking the balance of your bank account for a night of Valurite and pudding."
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 26, 2012 07:25 AM (vQPpd)
If communication is what the receiver assigns, there is no communication.
Tjen again, since you got both my interpretation of your signal and my signal wrong, maybe you're right, there is no communication.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at November 26, 2012 11:08 AM (8h1F2)
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Yes, communication is what the receiver assigns. I am surprised that you would contend otherwise. Not only is that little chestnut taught in speech classes, it is correct. If you don't think so -- say the following sentence out loud while emphasizing one word at a time:"I didn't say he hit his wife."
when you emphasize "I" the message really is: I ... (I am not the one that said it, but it was said.)
and similarly:
....didn't ..... (a strong denial that I said it)
....say ... (I didn't say it, but I did accuse him of it in writing)
....he.... (wasn't him, he had his brother hit his wife for him)
.....hit..... (he didn't hit her, but he did throw a bucket of cold water in her face)
....his... (he actually hit his neighbor's wife)
...wife (he left his wife alone but he did hit his mistress).
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 12:40 PM (i8c5b)
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