November 06, 2012
— Maetenloch
I figure the ONT is going to be preempted and stomped on like crazy tonight but consider it your election night meet-up point, staging area for attacks as well as meta-analysis.
And should the lines break and we be overrun, the ONT will also be our rallying point. If you see 'Alamo' appear on the front page, make your way here, sock up, and hold the margins. There's a reason we've been stockpiling ampersands all these months. Also everyone take one of the red capsules, it'll be explained later.
UPDATE:
So What Would an Ohio Recount Look Like?
So what happens with the provisional ballots? According to Ohio law, the eighty-eight counties in the state are not even allowed to start counting the provisional ballots for ten days. In the meantime, those who cast provisional ballots are allowed to submit evidence that their votes should count-they can, for example, show forms of identification that they might not have brought with them to the polls on November 6th.
Bottom line is that if Ohio goes into extra innings, we probably won't know who is president until December. And that's if all the rules are followed and there aren't any court injunctions.
The Utter Madness of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact
The Electoral College has its flaws but pretty much any other system has its own even greater flawa. In particular any popular vote-based system means that fraud and recount aren't short-circuited at the state-level. So crazy levels of cheating in Detroit, Cleveland, and Chicago could possibly tilt the entire national election and there's nothing the other 47 states could do about it.
The National Popular Vote idea . . . is not a national popular vote. It is, in fact, just a form of the Electoral College system in which state election laws have gone insane. On the NPV system, states would be committing themselves in the Electoral College to preferring votes elsewhere to those cast by their own citizens.
...Moreover, NPV guarantees that states with well-thought-out election laws and well-run election systems are held hostage to those without. When, for instance, we had the problems with the Bush v. Gore election, the problems were all with the popular vote count of Florida.
German Media: America Is Declining....And Always Will Be
The fact they've been reporting this for at least 3 decades now is a pretty good sign that US's influence hasn't declined. After all do we have continuous front page articles declaring the fading away of Japan or France? Plus even if we re-elect Obama, they will still be very disappointed in us.
The 7 Worst Democratic Ads of 2012
Ads with cursing grannies, talking vaginas, and Stepford children are no way to go through a campaign.
Anti-Mormonism that is.
Romney in carbonite iphone case. Thanks to John F.
I guess you can get pretty far with glue and paper-mache . It's a good thing Dillinger didn't get art classes in the pen.
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Posted by: Modgi at November 06, 2012 08:09 PM (3xuDv)
Thank you Ace, and all the Cobs for you work here. You motivated me and i am sure many others to fight up until the final whistle. To go out and volunteer rather than simply cast just one ballot. I don't know if you knew Romney would come up short, but if you did then thank you all the more. Someone has to be standing there at the Alamo, or Bataan or Thermopylae leading the troops on because every battle must be fought. Every field must be contested. No ground can be ceded to the Statists and the Takers without a struggle.
We cannot win every fight, but if we do not fight every fight, we will lose more of them. There can be no dispair (OK maybe 1 day of dispair ya sissies), just the determination to return yet again to the field, bloodied but never broken. Our country, our way of life, our freedoms, i think even the fate of our children and the world depend on there being people who will oppose the gnawing away of our liberties in the land of the free.
And you Sir are a smoking-hot pointy-elbowed cleavage-oozing stompy-booted cheerleader in this game that never ends. And i'd do ya.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 06, 2012 08:09 PM (kzejo)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at November 06, 2012 08:10 PM (Cl95C)
Posted by: freeus at November 06, 2012 08:10 PM (caDgg)
Oh I dunno, looks like they worked pretty fucking well to me.
Posted by: apotheosis at November 06, 2012 08:10 PM (xWk3U)
Posted by: Paul Morphy at November 06, 2012 08:10 PM (4uMU0)
Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 08:10 PM (9XBK2)
It is the VETERAN, not the preacher,
Who has given us freedom of religion.
It is the VETERAN, not the reporter,
Who has given us freedom of the press.
It is the VETERAN, not the poet,
Who has given us freedom of speech.
It is the VETERAN, not the campus organizer,
Who has given us freedom to assemble.
It is the VETERAN, not the lawyer,
Who has given us the right to a fair trial.
It is the VETERAN, not the politician,
Who has given us the right to vote.
It is the VETERAN,
Who salutes the Flag,
It is the veteran,
Who serves under the Flag,
ETERNAL REST GRANT THEM O LORD,
AND LET PERPETUAL LIGHT SHINE UPON THEM.
God Bless and keep our young
servicemen and women!
Posted by: andycanuck at November 06, 2012 08:10 PM (nkiQM)
Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 08:11 PM (0LX7P)
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 08:11 PM (pbU/y)
That's the real problem here. We seem to pick governors well and school boards and D.A.s Then we pick this king of D.C.!
But Congress will never take responsibility back, will they?
So now we are a banana republic.
Posted by: PJ at November 06, 2012 08:11 PM (DQHjw)
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 06, 2012 08:11 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 08:12 PM (QK54y)
Posted by: Modgi at November 06, 2012 08:12 PM (3xuDv)
Posted by: P. Aaron at November 06, 2012 08:12 PM (QGgxb)
Posted by: lumpy at November 06, 2012 08:12 PM (yHGAQ)
Posted by: concrete girl at November 06, 2012 08:12 PM (y2Ojs)
Posted by: MrX at November 06, 2012 08:12 PM (PxmNZ)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 08:12 PM (ZPrif)
SO here's a question:
Was Romney's uber-confidence before the election real or just political acting?
If today really was D+6 I can see him genuinely believing he had this in the bag....he'd be assuming a much better D/R split than that!
Still, take comfort people. Obama won pretty narrowly in the end (1% or so in FL, VA, OH) and he needed to repeat the greatest Democratic turnout ever to manage it. Rumours of the death of the GOP are greatly exaggerated.
Posted by: AussieMarcus at November 06, 2012 08:12 PM (RstsB)
Posted by: Chris R at November 06, 2012 08:12 PM (qP4e9)
Posted by: NC Ref at November 06, 2012 08:12 PM (/Rruc)
half the country do not deserve their birth right.
Posted by: willow at November 06, 2012 08:13 PM (hX8cq)
Posted by: tdpwells at November 06, 2012 08:13 PM (01otU)
Posted by: txconservative at November 06, 2012 08:13 PM (5UMyr)
Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 08:13 PM (0LX7P)
Posted by: Typical Young Obama Voter at November 06, 2012 08:13 PM (Hu/Da)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 08:13 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 08:14 PM (QK54y)
Posted by: teebone at November 06, 2012 08:14 PM (YtLSL)
Posted by: tubal at November 06, 2012 08:14 PM (BoE3Z)
Guess the campaign really did feel that OH numbers weren't moving in their favor and were desperately trying to carve another way to 270.
Posted by: lorien1973 at November 06, 2012 08:14 PM (mcWHD)
so.... i have 2 new thoughts
1) when the dems nominate an african american they will have about 90% A-A turnout and therefore win
2) the gop needs to figure out how to win more than 25% of latinos or we are screwed.
and ideas how????
Posted by: ! at November 06, 2012 08:14 PM (nsvtN)
Posted by: kj at November 06, 2012 08:14 PM (qEts0)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 08:14 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: A. at November 06, 2012 08:15 PM (kjTzB)
Posted by: Infidel at November 06, 2012 08:15 PM (Vk6ZI)
Posted by: Chris R at November 06, 2012 08:15 PM (qP4e9)
Posted by: nip at November 06, 2012 08:15 PM (11Tdq)
Posted by: sunnyblack at November 07, 2012 12:13 AM (0LX7P)
oh dear, you work to get your degree so that you can live in poverty helping those that want free abortions.
i'm sure they would be huffy if even an exchange of a chicken were asked for.
Posted by: willow at November 06, 2012 08:15 PM (hX8cq)
Posted by: Copper lining at November 06, 2012 08:15 PM (kzejo)
We have decided to leave you, we have fallen in love with another hurricane named Sandy
It's not you, it's us
Posted by: The MBM at November 06, 2012 08:15 PM (wwsoB)
If today really was D+6 I can see him genuinely believing he had this in the bag....he'd be assuming a much better D/R split than that!
I think him going into those blue states were him realizing OH was going to be sketchy at best, so he was trying to find another way to 270. I have no clue why he practically abandoned FL this last week or so, though.
Posted by: lorien1973 at November 06, 2012 08:15 PM (mcWHD)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (Cl95C)
What does it take to become a Canadian?
Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2012 08:16 PM (kaalw)
Pennsylvania was supposed to be close. Obviously, the GOP poll watchers were kicked out in Philadelphia long enough for Team Obama to ensure 100% turnout breaking 99% for Obama.
Slow decline, like Britain, or a fast decline to Greece, right down to riots in the streets.
Posted by: Ed Mahmoud at November 06, 2012 08:16 PM (RFQlS)
Posted by: kim at November 06, 2012 08:16 PM (JSebC)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 06, 2012 08:16 PM (DoZD+)
@45
Nah, looks like they didn't see the Dem turnout coming.
I don't like Obama but credit to him to repeat the 2008 effort in these circumstances.
Posted by: AussieMarcus at November 06, 2012 08:16 PM (RstsB)
Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 08:16 PM (QK54y)
Posted by: MrX at November 07, 2012 12:12 AM (PxmNZ)
Damn. The GOP is so dead, hopefully something more libertarian will rise form its ashes.
Posted by: txconservative at November 06, 2012 08:17 PM (5UMyr)
Posted by: kbdabear at November 06, 2012 08:17 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 08:17 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: no good deed at November 06, 2012 08:17 PM (mjR67)
Damnit.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 07, 2012 12:13 AM (piMMO)
Which ones were they?
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 08:17 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 06, 2012 08:17 PM (OjQYm)
Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 08:17 PM (0LX7P)
Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 08:17 PM (r2PLg)
Dig in, hunker down, and wait.
Posted by: NothingIsEverOver at November 06, 2012 08:17 PM (MwqCg)
1, Wie geht es? (How goes it)
2, Wie viel? (How much)
3, Want to fuck? (how much?)
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 06, 2012 08:17 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: JohnAdams at November 06, 2012 08:18 PM (Vi6tk)
It's not been a good day. I woke up to realize that I had been redistricted out of Republican Frank Wolf's district (Va-10) into Democrat Gerry Connolly's (Va-11). It was all downhill from there.
And it looks like there are no consolation prizes: Princess Lieawatha won. Akin and Mourdock lost, as did Allen in my state. And it appears that sodomitic pseudogamy has been voted into law in a couple of states.
Historians may point to this night as the beginning of the end of the American civilization.
Excuse me, my CO mask awaits. (I keed, I keed.)
Posted by: Leo Ladenson at November 06, 2012 08:18 PM (mAm+G)
Posted by: kawfytawk at November 06, 2012 08:18 PM (JWLqy)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2012 08:18 PM (SkUim)
Posted by: Deli LLama at November 06, 2012 08:18 PM (lGu1O)
You gotta be, ugh, polite to people.
Posted by: lorien1973 at November 06, 2012 08:18 PM (mcWHD)
well, christie screwed us real. But to be honest. it was the 24 million that got free money!
Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 08:18 PM (2Nzn8)
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 06, 2012 08:18 PM (jts1f)
Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 08:18 PM (0LX7P)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 08:19 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: P. Aaron at November 06, 2012 08:19 PM (QGgxb)
Posted by: andycanuck at November 06, 2012 08:19 PM (nkiQM)
Do us a favor and TB3K with extreme prejudice any troll who comes in here to gloat tonight
Posted by: kbdabear at November 07, 2012 12:17 AM (wwsoB)
The TB3K is running at 100% - the limiting factor is how fast we can shove the troll hashes into it. Imagine all the crap that you aren't seeing.
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 06, 2012 08:19 PM (uyPho)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 08:19 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 08:19 PM (piMMO)
We took 30 governor seats
Fuck the Fat Man, NJ isn't worth fighting over
Posted by: kbdabear at November 06, 2012 08:19 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: fingers crossed in Nevada at November 06, 2012 08:20 PM (7dJ3w)
Posted by: debiesam at November 06, 2012 08:20 PM (nE6k3)
Posted by: and irresolute at November 06, 2012 08:20 PM (DBH1h)
Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 08:20 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Jonathan at November 06, 2012 08:20 PM (JREZ/)
Am disappointed that it wasn't a blowout. Alas.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 06, 2012 08:20 PM (xHaTb)
and ideas how????
Posted by: ! at November 07, 2012 12:14 AM (nsvtN)
yes, Tell them they are insufficient human beings that will never amount to anything without dem,( sorry i meant gop )and you know that and will help them by giving them free formula.they then can be like half of america and buy THE IDEA they are stupid and cannot in any way shape or form actually become adults and buy their baby's formula
Posted by: willow at November 06, 2012 08:20 PM (hX8cq)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 08:20 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 08:21 PM (Z9EHQ)
It could just be that they're both rotten.
Posted by: november1981 at November 06, 2012 08:21 PM (Z6XSF)
Posted by: Infidel at November 07, 2012 12:15 AM (Vk6ZI)
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Become old and/or crippled. Mentally unstable helps too.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 08:21 PM (pbU/y)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 07, 2012 12:19 AM (piMMO)
Well going to bed. Good God America, have really fallen this low?
Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 08:21 PM (2Nzn8)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 08:21 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 08:21 PM (0LX7P)
Posted by: debiesam at November 06, 2012 08:21 PM (nE6k3)
Posted by: Jordan at November 06, 2012 08:21 PM (jRfn3)
Posted by: Modgi at November 06, 2012 08:21 PM (3xuDv)
Posted by: jim at November 06, 2012 08:22 PM (VwhRo)
I feel like half my country would prefer me dead, and I'm not inclined to submit to their wishes meekly.
Posted by: apotheosis at November 06, 2012 08:22 PM (xWk3U)
Posted by: little miss spellcheck at November 06, 2012 08:22 PM (a5ljo)
Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 08:22 PM (0LX7P)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 08:22 PM (Z9EHQ)
Let's pretend Romney wins all these. What's his 4th state to get over 270?
Posted by: lorien1973 at November 06, 2012 08:22 PM (mcWHD)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 06, 2012 08:22 PM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 06, 2012 08:22 PM (53riN)
Posted by: spypeach at November 06, 2012 08:22 PM (pwTow)
Posted by: yomomma at November 06, 2012 08:22 PM (DKLl9)
I'm also five digits lighter on Intrade because of this fiasco.
FWIW, Intrade had FL wrong, but just about everything else right.
Posted by: Looking closely at November 06, 2012 08:22 PM (+PDlV)
Posted by: BillS at November 06, 2012 08:22 PM (kD5zU)
Posted by: A. at November 06, 2012 08:22 PM (kjTzB)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 06, 2012 08:23 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 08:23 PM (piMMO)
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU Akin, And fuck you Murdock (for political cluelessness). And FUCK YOU Maggie Gallagher for your NRO anti-endorsement.
I would not like to see a war between fiscal conservatives and social conservatives. I really hope we can avoid it. The greatest enemy is not inside. (Though some of the enemy is.)
But I've got to say to some Akin-supporting social conservatives (especially those who didn't vote Romney), and ALSO to some third-party libertarians: FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU.
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 08:23 PM (tUcg9)
Posted by: Zombie Buckley, standing athwart history at November 06, 2012 08:23 PM (nO18H)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 06, 2012 08:23 PM (uD2fR)
Posted by: Spotted reptile at November 06, 2012 08:24 PM (OFIz8)
And our 'heroes' in the House and Senate, those loveable RINOs, will wet the bed and completely buy into it.
Posted by: TLGM at November 06, 2012 08:24 PM (appbn)
Posted by: txconservative at November 06, 2012 08:24 PM (5UMyr)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 08:24 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at November 06, 2012 08:24 PM (Cl95C)
Posted by: I Lurk Hard For My Money at November 06, 2012 08:24 PM (MG6Y6)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 08:24 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: The Q at November 06, 2012 08:24 PM (w4fEE)
(Un?)Fortunately, I don't live in Colorado.
Red states throw you in jail for a little chiba, and that's probably not going to change for years.
Hell, they still have ALCOHOL prohibition down here.
Posted by: Looking closely at November 06, 2012 08:24 PM (+PDlV)
100 2) "the gop needs to figure out how to win more than 25% of latinos or we are screwed."
It's this kind of talk that will kill this country for good. Enough with it already. Let this election be the death of all pandering.
Posted by: november1981 at November 06, 2012 08:25 PM (Z6XSF)
Um, ain't that how this whole thing got started 4 years ago? Not a winning solution, I'm afraid.
Posted by: Cameron at November 06, 2012 08:25 PM (hwUXQ)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 08:25 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 06, 2012 08:25 PM (kzejo)
Posted by: and irresolute at November 07, 2012 12:20 AM (DBH1h)
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Except for shitting on a cop car, it's not a bad idea. As a matter of fact, it's brilliant. Kill their game by becoming bigger victims than their electorate.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 08:25 PM (pbU/y)
Heck, I'm even going to buy stock in distillery businesses. That might still prosper even when the rest of what remains of the economy goes under.
Posted by: dissent555 at November 06, 2012 08:25 PM (yR6A1)
Posted by: Spotted reptile at November 07, 2012 12:24 AM (OFIz
Please, Muslims will be back to herding goats in the desert as soon as they run out of oil.
Posted by: txconservative at November 06, 2012 08:25 PM (5UMyr)
This. Make the system fail faster. I've never received a check from the gubmint even when I could have qualified, but now I look forward to applying for some food stamps. I'll be able to afford a lot more valu-rite if I don't get rejected for being a member of the wrong demographic.
I think I'm kidding, but not really sure now. Obama wants a nation of dependents....
Posted by: NC Ref at November 06, 2012 08:25 PM (/Rruc)
Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 08:26 PM (0LX7P)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 06, 2012 08:26 PM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: The Third Obama Term, Via Executive Order at November 06, 2012 08:26 PM (Hu/Da)
Posted by: BillS at November 06, 2012 08:26 PM (kD5zU)
For one thing, the trend of companies succeeding or failing not on their own merits, but rather by how well-connected they are politically.....will only accelerate. Corzine has shown how you can rip off customers for $1.2B and just walk away. Investing in the stock market is playing in a rigged casino.
The US government is now committed to $1T deficits as far as the eye can see, which they will finance by having the Fed monetize their debt -- since other countries would have to be stupid to buy treasuries themselves, and the stupid ones are broke. You can expect inflation.
Anyone counting on their pension having a return AT ALL, or even getting their investment back, needs to start doing a re-think. Look for private pensions to be run into the ground.....or, if solvent, nationalized in order to prop up government pensions.
Look for the black market and underground economy to grow -- you can't sustain yourself while paying the level of taxes demanded and jumping through all the costly hoops.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2012 08:26 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 08:26 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: PAgirlinNC at November 06, 2012 08:26 PM (+CbIx)
Posted by: tommy at November 06, 2012 08:26 PM (Ufxn1)
Lovely.
"It can't happen here".
/irony in the [formerly] Land of the Free and Home of the Brave
Posted by: Jim Sonweed at November 06, 2012 08:26 PM (2c1Cq)
Posted by: Mass Yankee in George Bush's Texas at November 06, 2012 08:27 PM (qJM+e)
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 08:27 PM (pbU/y)
Posted by: Dan at November 06, 2012 08:27 PM (/7gN/)
Posted by: t-bird at November 06, 2012 08:27 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Americans at November 06, 2012 08:27 PM (Hu/Da)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 06, 2012 08:27 PM (jucos)
Posted by: kawfytawk at November 06, 2012 08:28 PM (JWLqy)
That's the unfortunate result of big government. When government inserts itself into everything, then everything becomes political.
Posted by: LIGuy at November 06, 2012 08:28 PM (HYD/Y)
Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 08:28 PM (QK54y)
I'm going to predict SCOAMF wins FL...
Just went county by county- fucking Broward and Miami Dade are still manufacturing votes.
I don't see a path to victory there.
The coalition of the mobs wanting free shit and the progressive self appointed elites who think they are the ones to distribute it to them won.
The people who they TAKE the money from to get the free shit? Lost.
Parasites win!
I guess our only recourse is to make sure we don't have any assets for them take. Going Galt.
Posted by: Gerry Owen at November 06, 2012 08:28 PM (4ABat)
Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 08:28 PM (0LX7P)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 08:28 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 08:28 PM (9+ccr)
It may be.
But I sure as hell am not going to take the MSM's word on the matter.
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 08:28 PM (tUcg9)
Posted by: Modgi at November 06, 2012 08:28 PM (3xuDv)
I'm beginning to think the whole "evangelicals stayed home in 2008" meme is bullshit. Doesn't look like they turned out in Virginia either.
Posted by: MrCaniac at November 06, 2012 08:29 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: boulder hobo at November 06, 2012 08:29 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: tdpwells at November 06, 2012 08:29 PM (01otU)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 08:29 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: rickl at November 06, 2012 08:29 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 08:29 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: kj at November 06, 2012 08:30 PM (qEts0)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 08:30 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: BillS at November 06, 2012 08:30 PM (kD5zU)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 06, 2012 08:31 PM (d0Dmj)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 06, 2012 08:31 PM (csi6Y)
Posted by: Jordan at November 06, 2012 08:31 PM (jRfn3)
Posted by: Big T Party at November 06, 2012 08:31 PM (oDtMj)
Posted by: SMOD at November 06, 2012 08:31 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: PAgirlinNC at November 06, 2012 08:31 PM (+CbIx)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2012 08:31 PM (SkUim)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 06, 2012 08:31 PM (DoZD+)
Ugh...
I feel as bad as anyone but come on.. fuck...
Get drunk tonight, lick the wounds..
It's never been easy for us, tomorrow we're back on these douches.
Posted by: The Badger State at November 06, 2012 08:31 PM (wd82C)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 08:31 PM (9+ccr)
Well, Fat Man ... you're going to be Katrina'd when the reports of continued suffering from the storm and lack of help go to the top of the MSM newscasts again
Your New Best Friend won't get blamed, and he won't do a fucking thing to pull your fat ass out of the fire
Good luck going back to private life, Fat Man
Posted by: kbdabear at November 06, 2012 08:31 PM (wwsoB)
Black Market
Or
Underground economy
it's what sustained the Russian people for 40 years after wwii.
it's who you know that will count. you gather contacts like rare coins or baseball cards and rent them, trade them or sell them.
Services will be big. it's easier to hide than physical goods. still selling some personal property can be lucrative just tricky.
the tax man will become more obtrusive. (you didn't think they're hiring 16,000 more agents to keep track of your health care, did you?)
don't keep much in the bank. New laws now allow them to track EVERY transaction you make. In real time if they like. and confiscate the funds on a moments notice. electronically.
If dillinger were alive, he'd be a computer tech.
Posted by: Jcw46 at November 06, 2012 08:31 PM (SP4jC)
Posted by: Baldy at November 06, 2012 08:31 PM (opS9C)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 08:31 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: The Mayans at November 06, 2012 08:32 PM (8/bPb)
Posted by: Flounder at November 06, 2012 08:32 PM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: Modgi at November 06, 2012 08:32 PM (3xuDv)
Posted by: BillS at November 06, 2012 08:32 PM (kD5zU)
Posted by: The New Permanent Political Coalition at November 06, 2012 08:32 PM (Hu/Da)
So if unions voted for "Union" and didn't give a shit about those freezing, starving and suffering beyond compare, then they deserve what ever hell their votes hath wrought. Those who sincerely care for their fellow man and act from their hearts, do not deserve the life prescribed to them from the selfish union thugs.
Posted by: Deli LLama at November 06, 2012 08:32 PM (lGu1O)
Posted by: buzzion at November 06, 2012 08:32 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at November 06, 2012 08:32 PM (Cl95C)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 08:32 PM (Z9EHQ)
Fuck.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 06, 2012 08:32 PM (8AF9+)
The GOP should have taken a strong stand on immigration long ago. Instead, we had years of compassionate conservatism in the immigration department that have shifted the demographics of this country to the left. You can't win Latinos because they aren't conservative-minded. We heard for years about how Latinos had great family values from the likes of Bush, but the illegitimacy and teenage pregnancy rates of Hispanics should disavow anyone of this notion. They prefer Big Government policies so, unless you put the Republican efforts to win elections ahead of actual conservative policies, then you won't win them over. Just accept that pandering to Hispanics has been an electoral disaster: you didn't win the Hispanic vote and you alienated many white voters in the process.
Posted by: tommy at November 06, 2012 08:33 PM (Ufxn1)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 06, 2012 08:33 PM (DoZD+)
If Obama wins, Obamacare is now forever.
Anyone who did not vote for Romney can go fuck, fuck, fuck themselves.
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 08:33 PM (tUcg9)
Posted by: november1981 at November 07, 2012 12:21 AM (Z6XSF)
When even my fellow Republicans call me names for being a birther, I hope people are breave enough to call this fraudulant. But that circular firing squad might scare some off. Not me, however.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 08:33 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 08:33 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Ripley .45 at November 06, 2012 08:33 PM (TLIC6)
Posted by: BillS at November 06, 2012 08:33 PM (kD5zU)
Tell me how this loss was Romney's fault again
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 07, 2012 12:30 AM (piMMO)
Aye, the people, such as they are, have spoken.
We are, truly, a house divided, two separate peoples living in the same land. Half of us are ants, the other half are grasshoppers, and winter is quickly coming.
The next few years are going to be terrible. The next decade? Even worse. Steel yourselves, and trust in the Lord, because all else has indeed failed.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 06, 2012 08:33 PM (PW5Tr)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 06, 2012 08:33 PM (xKC/c)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2012 08:33 PM (SkUim)
Posted by: Drewbicle at November 06, 2012 08:34 PM (YqP7s)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 07, 2012 12:33 AM (DoZD+)
If I didn't have Grand kids I'd say fine come.. On the other hand what kind of future do they have?
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 08:34 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 08:34 PM (0LX7P)
OK, I've been at some bar up 'til now, stuck with some MFM crap on the screen, so I'm checking in.
WTF, people? How is this even possible? Who is turning out in droves to vote for this guy? He lived up to almost no promises, the economy is in the toilet. Is something crooked afoot? How can Karl Rove be THIS wrong?
They're even talking like we're even losing seats in the Senate. That defies the odds, even if you believed the polls.
Posted by: Optimizer at November 06, 2012 08:34 PM (Mxt9o)
Posted by: Big T Party at November 06, 2012 08:34 PM (oDtMj)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 08:34 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: That Mindful Guy is grim at November 06, 2012 08:34 PM (lBpVP)
Posted by: how to know you're republic might be fucked at November 06, 2012 08:34 PM (u+152)
One bright side thing is that whatever "teflon" image Obama had is long gone.
He couldn't skate by just by being Obama and all the post-partisan hopey-changey bullshit. He had to OPENLY get down and dirty this time around.
He's been reduced to just another politician.
Posted by: AussieMarcus at November 06, 2012 08:35 PM (RstsB)
Posted by: pat at November 06, 2012 08:35 PM (vY2MW)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 06, 2012 08:35 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at November 06, 2012 08:35 PM (Cl95C)
There are always possibilities Spock said.
Posted by: Anna Puma
Wasn't he that guy who had to stand by helplessly while his planet was destroyed?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2012 08:35 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 06, 2012 08:35 PM (Ea64Y)
Fuck everyone.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 06, 2012 08:35 PM (8AF9+)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2012 08:35 PM (SkUim)
"...
Your New Best Friend won't get blamed, and he won't do a fucking thing to pull your fat ass out of the fire
...
Posted by: kbdabear at November 07, 2012 12:31 AM (wwsoB) "
Skinny ass O couldn't lift Christie's fat ass out of anything. He throws like a girl, wears mom jeans, rides girls' bikes. The man probably cannot even lift his own weight let alone Fat Chris.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 08:35 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: fixerupper at November 06, 2012 08:35 PM (ffV1/)
Posted by: Remember the Alamo, Remember Benghazi at November 06, 2012 08:35 PM (jvg6T)
In CA, the Dems may even win a 2/3 majority in the legislature, which means they can raise any tax they like, including property tax. Bye-bye, Prop 13. Bye-bye, middle class.
Posted by: PJ at November 06, 2012 08:36 PM (DQHjw)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 07, 2012 12:30 AM (piMMO)"
You'll be waiting for awhile. The head Ewok is trying to blame it on a hurricane.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 06, 2012 08:36 PM (uD2fR)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 08:36 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2012 08:36 PM (SkUim)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 06, 2012 08:36 PM (9eL3/)
Posted by: 80sBaby at November 06, 2012 08:36 PM (YjDyJ)
I blame the Internet (invented by Al Gore™) and its comments.
Posted by: how to know your republic might be fucked at November 06, 2012 08:36 PM (u+152)
Posted by: A. at November 06, 2012 08:36 PM (kjTzB)
Posted by: BillS at November 06, 2012 08:37 PM (kD5zU)
Posted by: LIGuy at November 06, 2012 08:37 PM (HYD/Y)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 08:37 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: The Iranian Mullahs at November 06, 2012 08:37 PM (Hu/Da)
Posted by: tofer732 at November 06, 2012 08:37 PM (m5Iwq)
A hurricane.
Akin, may his balls shrivel.
Gary Johnson.
Chris Christie's man crush.
and... oh yea, THE FREAKIN' DEMOCRAT RUN MEDIA.
Did I forget anything? Just making sure I have my spit ball target list in order.
Posted by: Book at November 06, 2012 08:37 PM (GYXSA)
Posted by: Keena at November 06, 2012 08:37 PM (FUo3j)
Posted by: Heyguys:D at November 06, 2012 08:37 PM (sWldt)
Has Romney conceded, or are we still fighting?
Posted by: Palandine at November 06, 2012 08:37 PM (g7D8V)
I don't think you get it. He was protected by the press for 4 years. He will be treated as a God tomorrow. Just watch Matt Lauer. This will not be pretty. He and his ilk will seek revenge. He was not joking.
Posted by: pat at November 06, 2012 08:37 PM (vY2MW)
The jokes aren't private anymore, and I'm not so sure they're all joking.
All these "we have become Greece" comments...the Greek government doesn't even keep stats on ethnicity, much less award goodies based on it or encourage groups to lash out at each other like ours does.
"Greece" is an unlikely scenario. Too positive.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 06, 2012 08:38 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 08:38 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 06, 2012 08:38 PM (jucos)
- - - - - - - - -
(1) Import poor people from countries that don't have a political tradition of individual liberty and economic freedom
(2) Give them all sorts of free government shit
(3) Expect that they'll vote for the party of limited government.
Uh huh...
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 06, 2012 08:38 PM (8AF9+)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at November 06, 2012 08:38 PM (Cl95C)
Congratulations, "Libertarians".
May your Obamacare premiums bankrupt you stupid fucks.
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 06, 2012 08:38 PM (u+152)
Posted by: Mass Yankee in George Bush's Texas at November 06, 2012 08:38 PM (qJM+e)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 06, 2012 08:39 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 07, 2012 12:33 AM (xKC/c)
Considering how many contributions TFG received from overseas.....er....we just did.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2012 08:39 PM (kaalw)
Either Remington 870 (if you have more money) or Mossber 500 (if you have less) for shotgun.
Pistol, either a 1911 in .45 ACP, a Glock, or a Smith and Wesson .357 revolver.
Posted by: Looking closely at November 06, 2012 08:39 PM (+PDlV)
Posted by: elprez at November 06, 2012 08:39 PM (4QO27)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 06, 2012 08:39 PM (cLAkX)
Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 08:39 PM (0LX7P)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at November 06, 2012 08:39 PM (cujSl)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 08:39 PM (ZPrif)
right there.
I feel like I wasted my time in the Corps. I volunteer to fight and you go out of your way to lie on your belly and get fucked in your dumb butt. Whatevs, My oath to protect and defend will forthwith be domestic centric. At least as long as that threat seems most credible.
Posted by: Modgi at November 06, 2012 08:39 PM (3xuDv)
All we can do is live our lives as best we can and be ready to build something out of the ashes, because at this point there's no stopping it.
Posted by: DanInMN at November 06, 2012 08:39 PM (khf9A)
Posted by: America Fuck Yeah! at November 06, 2012 08:40 PM (SgVUM)
Time to re-examine your premises, folks. Whatever you've been trying for the past decade or two hasn't really been working out so well. Especially at the national level.
Time to re-think your strategy...and your tactics.
Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at November 06, 2012 08:40 PM (WwR1j)
Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 06, 2012 08:40 PM (Ea64Y)
So Romney hasn't conceded yet? Good for him... Make obama make and mooche wait a bit before they can celebrate...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna
Yeah, make them pay another day on the ballroom rental because they went after midnight.
That'll learn 'em.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2012 08:40 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: JohnAdams at November 06, 2012 08:40 PM (Vi6tk)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 06, 2012 08:40 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: That Mindful Guy is grim at November 06, 2012 08:40 PM (lBpVP)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2012 08:40 PM (SkUim)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 08:40 PM (piMMO)
Oh god, here come the idiotic impeachment calls again.
If tonight didn't wake you up to political reality, please get off the internet.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 06, 2012 08:40 PM (uD2fR)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at November 06, 2012 08:40 PM (HKONC)
Posted by: NC Ref at November 06, 2012 08:40 PM (/Rruc)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 08:40 PM (9+ccr)
Fuck.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 07, 2012 12:32 AM
Exit polls indicated that a large number of voters STILL blame Bush for the bad economy
Low information voters and a corrupt media
Posted by: kbdabear at November 06, 2012 08:41 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: BillS at November 06, 2012 08:41 PM (kD5zU)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 06, 2012 08:41 PM (vk1zz)
Posted by: The Political Hat at November 06, 2012 08:41 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at November 06, 2012 08:41 PM (WWuYG)
Figuring out how to condense company expenses. My cousin-in-law is very happy with Obama's victory tonight; she won't be when she sees the hit to our paychecks in the next couple of months, nor when I inform her that we are downsizing and everyone is going to have to make do with less. (Malaise speech? Yeah, I have no choice anymore.)
I had entertained thoughts of selling my house and moving to the countryside, and was in the process of securing a loan for some renovations to that end. I am cancelling the loan tomorrow. >.> I am staying put, and staying out of debt.
I am also cancelling all of our ordinary yearly plans for equipment and vehicle trades, because the tax credit for vehicle/equipment purchases is indeed going away. I have no reason now to purchase trucks and skidsteers, I'll make do with what I have - and, incidentally, so will Detroit and Illinois, as I am relatively certain that I am not the only business owner looking to scrimp and avoid spending.
I am also strictly forgoing plans I had for breaking into a new line of construction work. Aside from lacking capital, I cannot deal with the healthcare fees that Obamacare mandate for companies over fifty.
In short, I am a microcosm of what is going to happen all across the country in coming months. It isn't pretty or pleasant, and it will cause a lot of howling by the uneducated proletariat who even now jockey for a place at the altar of the Traitor.
Dark times indeed. And, I asked earlier but likely missed the answer, when does Israel attack? Soon, I would assume.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 06, 2012 08:41 PM (PW5Tr)
Posted by: Hoarymarmot at November 06, 2012 08:41 PM (/LSG0)
Posted by: and irresolute at November 06, 2012 08:41 PM (DBH1h)
Posted by: nobama2012 at November 06, 2012 08:41 PM (VV7s1)
Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 08:41 PM (0LX7P)
Posted by: Nighthawk at November 06, 2012 08:41 PM (n1x7a)
Posted by: Bomber at November 06, 2012 08:42 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: ABouts at November 06, 2012 08:42 PM (wkEzQ)
The Mayans could still be right. 2012 isn't over yet.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 06, 2012 08:42 PM (SkyIE)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 08:42 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 06, 2012 08:42 PM (53riN)
Posted by: Jcw46 at November 06, 2012 08:42 PM (SP4jC)
Yup. He chose to trust the voters' will-- left it up to "us" and not the Supreme Court. In a way, I don't blame him. In another way, if this election is lost, I think he'll go down on history as a fucking horrible disaster who didn't do his job-- his job to look out for the fucking American Constitution.)
Those who voted for Obama voted for Obamacare. That's that.
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 08:42 PM (tUcg9)
STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jaylord at November 06, 2012 08:42 PM (Y6qC4)
Posted by: kawfytawk at November 06, 2012 08:43 PM (JWLqy)
Posted by: grumpy momma bear at November 06, 2012 08:43 PM (1h0qv)
Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 08:43 PM (JycCV)
I don't think our current neoconservative batch of leaders quite understands that Anglo-American conservatism is a different creature than conservatism in most other countries. In m,ost of Latin America, the government conservatives tend to emphasis their ability to run government more efficiently than liberals rather than necessarily getting government out of people's hair (i.e. valuing liberty). That's the kind of corporate conservatism is what we are drifting toward.
Posted by: tommy at November 06, 2012 08:43 PM (Ufxn1)
Posted by: and irresolute at November 07, 2012 12:20 AM (DBH1h)
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There's going to be a lot of layoffs between now and Jan. from employers wanting to beat the 2013 tax hikes. Watch for it.
Of course, that just means more people on welfare. Just as the dems want.
This country is so fucked.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 08:43 PM (pbU/y)
Posted by: Heyguys
at November 07, 2012 12:37 AM (sWldt)
When it gets brought up someone poo-poos it saying the Senate won't convict. That's why we need more whistle-blowers willing to risk Holder's overuse of th espionage law. We need them to come forward and tell more truth about Benghazi.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 08:43 PM (KL49F)
Fuck this shit. Do it. Crash the system.
It's now the American Way.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 06, 2012 08:43 PM (ccXZP)
They control our children through the colleges and public schools. They control the media and the news.
If that was the case there should still be a Soviet Union and east block.
Posted by: YIKES! at November 06, 2012 08:44 PM (1PE/J)
Posted by: rickl at November 06, 2012 08:44 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Former Democrat at November 06, 2012 08:44 PM (qJM+e)
Anyway, I just wanted to give my condolences about what happened. I'm going to keep praying. Bye.
Posted by: virginia lake at November 06, 2012 08:44 PM (DiW+f)
Posted by: dIb at November 06, 2012 08:44 PM (aRwtY)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 08:44 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Mindy at November 06, 2012 08:44 PM (6jLT3)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 08:44 PM (Z9EHQ)
The Democrats are winning because they are playing the long game of changing society, and by doing so, they win elections by default.
They control our children through the colleges and public schools. They control the media and the news.
We must play the long game. As conservatives, we are disinclined to pro-actively change society, but we must do so now.
Protect by tooth and nail anything the left has not destroyed. Destroy what they have. We must take over and institute change gradually. It will get better before it gets worse.
Posted by: The Political Hat at November 07, 2012 12:41 AM (sZTYJ)
^ THIS ^
Posted by: Book at November 06, 2012 08:44 PM (GYXSA)
Posted by: t-bird at November 06, 2012 08:44 PM (FcR7P)
This, I told my wife she needs to think on leaving her position and I'll ask for a pay cut, get to 44,999 a year and take the EIC, instead of paying, start taking. The only problem is it's against both our nature.
Posted by: Modgi at November 06, 2012 08:45 PM (3xuDv)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 06, 2012 08:45 PM (i0App)
Posted by: kawfytawk at November 06, 2012 08:45 PM (JWLqy)
Posted by: rickl at November 07, 2012 12:44 AM (sdi6R)
And of exceptional stupidity.
Posted by: YIKES! at November 06, 2012 08:45 PM (1PE/J)
Posted by: cheshirelion at November 06, 2012 08:45 PM (dyeJd)
Posted by: exdem13 at November 06, 2012 08:45 PM (1GunI)
Posted by: spypeach at November 06, 2012 08:45 PM (pwTow)
Posted by: Bomber at November 06, 2012 08:45 PM (84w+B)
Posted by: BillS at November 06, 2012 08:45 PM (kD5zU)
Good advice. My wife works one day a week and volunteers a couple of other. She wants to quit the volunteer work (its Obama's problem now) and I want her to make it her full time job to suck as much out of the gov't as possible.
Is that Question Mark Guy still around??
Posted by: Jaylord at November 06, 2012 08:45 PM (Y6qC4)
Pistol, either a 1911 in .45 ACP, a Glock, or a Smith and Wesson .357 revolver.>>
All good choices but in a bind anything that spits lead reliably is the answer. Makarov 9mm pistol or AK 47* are worldwide favorites for their cheap delivery. Shotguns if your cash strapped any used pump.
*the one good thing the commies were good at is selling cheap weapons that work)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 06, 2012 08:45 PM (cLAkX)
Posted by: ROIGuy at November 06, 2012 08:46 PM (7YnaR)
In all seriousness, all the votes have not been tabulated yet. There are states that are within the recall zone.
Stay Calm and Don't Panic.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2012 08:46 PM (SkUim)
Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 08:46 PM (JycCV)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 07, 2012 12:42 AM (53riN)
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That's a given. But look who's in the DoJ.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 08:46 PM (pbU/y)
Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 08:46 PM (0LX7P)
Posted by: Wi Lurker at November 06, 2012 08:46 PM (9pqWr)
Posted by: Jahson at November 06, 2012 08:46 PM (70WAZ)
Posted by: and irresolute at November 06, 2012 08:46 PM (DBH1h)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 07, 2012 12:42 AM (53riN)
Nope. I've been saying it all night. I just pray to Jesus that we have a candidate who will contest. McCain was alerted to voter fraud in OH and he turned a blind eye to it refused to contest the result. I pray Mitt will be Gandalf and have the guts to say to O "You shall not pass!"
Too much voter fraud and rumors of voter fraud across the country this last week. We had the enthusiasm and ever election after '08 has gone Republican ( the '09 governors' races, the '10 midterms, the '11 Walker recall). I don't buy this even a little bit. O stole this.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 08:46 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at November 06, 2012 08:46 PM (Cl95C)
Posted by: BillS at November 06, 2012 08:47 PM (kD5zU)
Yes, I see your point.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 06, 2012 08:47 PM (xKC/c)
Posted by: vic at November 06, 2012 08:47 PM (7totD)
Posted by: Wi Lurker at November 07, 2012 12:46 AM (9pqWr)
FUCK.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 08:47 PM (KL49F)
Sorry, not seeing it.
Posted by: Leo Ladenson at November 06, 2012 08:48 PM (mAm+G)
Example: My Comcast homepage has this headline: "Obama power to re-election despite weak economy."
That is the first time in forever that any headline about Obama and the economy has used a negative word with his---"weak."
No matter how bad the economic numbers were, my homepage spotlighted the silver lining.
I am distressed that even CO went blue---of course almost all the counties are red. CO has a lot of prog whites from CA.
However, if you look at vote totals in all the major battleground states, you'll see that Mitt lost by a whisker, with VA and Fla still out.
What other GOP candidate, with a complicit media, could have done that.
And FWIW, I sadly looked at a youtube of MSNBC telling me that 28% of Obama voters in an exit poll said his response to the storm was a major factor in voting for him with several more saying it was somewhat important.
Actually, I think such voters had to have been leaning Obama anyway, but what that storm did was take Mitt's surge and big crowds off the nightly news for 5 days, something the media loved, I suppose.
Face it, the enemy is the media.
We have to attack them and we need to choose 3 targets: the first, may I suggest, is CBS, the second is Steve Kroft of CBS, and the third, of course, is NBC and Brian Williams.
Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 08:48 PM (wgmUB)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 08:48 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: dIb at November 06, 2012 08:48 PM (aRwtY)
Posted by: Baldy at November 06, 2012 08:48 PM (opS9C)
Thank God, I'm rural. To those urban among us. Good luck. Viva la resistance.
To those who wish to castigate the Tea Party:
Without us, you wouldn't have gotten this close. No, we are not social con retards. Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at November 06, 2012 08:48 PM (HKONC)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 08:48 PM (Z9EHQ)
Congratulations, "Libertarians".
May your Obamacare premiums bankrupt you stupid fucks.
I don't blame Libertarians. At all.
I blame Obama voters. There were far, far more of them."
I blame ANYONE who did not vote for Romney against Obama, or who advocated to anyone voting for anyone other than Romney against Obama.
Fuck you. I'd tell you to eat Obamacare, except all of us will have to eat it, if Obama wins.
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 08:48 PM (tUcg9)
When the papers declared tha Dewey beat Truman, and Truman actually won, had Truman already conceded?
And if FL is an automatic recall, no one should concede, dammit!
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 08:48 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: exdem13 at November 06, 2012 08:48 PM (1GunI)
Posted by: LIGuy at November 06, 2012 08:48 PM (HYD/Y)
This America you keep talking about is just a memory you have. The name of the country may be the same but it is not the same country. The America you're talking about is gone. The sad thing is, we are the only ones that even remember it fondly. The people of the country now want nothing to do with the America of the past, they despise it. You got to learn to wrap your head around that, wishing for the past isn't any healthier then being bitter about the future. We are at the point where our success and happiness is for ourselves and family. It's the new reality.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 06, 2012 08:48 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 08:49 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 08:49 PM (0LX7P)
Posted by: Cato at November 06, 2012 08:49 PM (xbuCQ)
Posted by: Hoarymarmot at November 06, 2012 08:49 PM (/LSG0)
Congratulations, "Libertarians".
May your Obamacare premiums bankrupt you stupid fucks.
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 07, 2012 12:38 AM (u+152)
Yeah right, most of those stupid "libertarians" are likely sucking at the government teet already.
Posted by: buzzion at November 06, 2012 08:49 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 07, 2012 12:42 AM (53riN)
No.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_state_project
Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2012 08:49 PM (kaalw)
Seems like last time, we said the polls were wrong, and they were. But they were wrong in the same way.
So, deja vu.
Maybe all those "screw you, I'm not answering the phone" types were mostly Obamabots who couldn't be bothered. Which might make sense, in a way.
We put our children in the hands of socialists 50 years ago, and the chickens have come home to roost.
Posted by: Optimizer at November 06, 2012 08:49 PM (Mxt9o)
And some rich Obama donor's shiny new solar panel factory that's never going to make a single solar panel.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 06, 2012 08:49 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Robert at November 06, 2012 08:50 PM (LUnTP)
The glass-half-empty view - they weren't $16 trillion in debt at the time. The UK is closer to where we are - the Reagan/Thatcher years were a blip in the post '70s decline, we've fallen farther and faster but like the British we may be demographically and culturally beyond recovery.
Right now my thoughts about 'my fellow Americans' are pretty much unprintable. There are a lot of people out there I want to see get hurt, and hurt bad. I dearly hope MACT has the residents of Pennsylvania gnawing on rats.
The problem is that I need to make sure that my family and I are not collateral damage.
Posted by: JEM at November 06, 2012 08:50 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Mass Yankee in George Bush's Texas at November 06, 2012 08:50 PM (qJM+e)
Posted by: California red at November 06, 2012 08:50 PM (DXTKe)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 08:50 PM (9+ccr)
This will get lost in the noise of tonight's chaos but I feel I have to post something, if only a scream in the night.
I've been lurking here since before the 2008 elections. The insanity of this place has been one of the few things that have kept my spirits up. Thank you to so many Morons that have made me laugh over the past 4 years.
Tonight has utterly destroyed my last hope of survival for this experiment called "America".
I'm totally drunk off my ass in the true moron way and find it hard to see the monitor through the tears as I type this, as I watched America die tonight.
I turn 55 in few weeks, divorced (2 grown kids) and weep for what lies ahead of them.
I went "Galt" back around 2005. Now it's time for me to simply vanish off the grid and let the chips fall as they may.
I soon as sober up in the next day or two, I will be getting rid of every piece of shit that I own that isn't vital to my survival or a keepsake that can't be parted with.
I will be putting my house on the market after that and taking whatever I can get for it.
Step two will be vanishing into the vastness of this country. I simply won't be a target for the onslaught of Government that is coming. I'll die a Free Man on my own terms before I'll become a slave to The State.
Dad was an Okie and I spent a quite a few of my younger years there. The state still has a tug at my heart. As Commander John Koenig once said "Maybe there".
Fuck Obama. Fuck Communists/Socialists/Marxists and whatever/whoever else seeks to overthrow the Constitutional Republic that we call The United States of America.
As Ben Franklin said "....if you can keep it". As tonight has shown, we've lost that ability. History has shown that ALL Republics/Democracies fall. I just never thought I'd live to see it happen.
We have become a pre-Civil War nation. We have become divided in a way that simply cannot be reconciled through normal political means. There are too many that will happily suck this nation dry, oblivious to the disaster that lurks ahead. We are awash is low-information voters and Useful Idiots. Sadly their votes count as much as those that take the time to become informed and educated about the true nature of this Nation and the World we live in. Tonight has shown that between them, and the complicit Mainstream Media, we are outnumbered.
As I'm fond of saying, I'm an Agnostic on a good day and an an Atheist on bad ones, but from the bottom of my heart, may God bless and protect those love this country.
Damn. All out of booze and way beyond safe to go out and get more. What am I supposed to do with the pudding I've stashed in the fridge?
Posted by: Long time lurker at November 06, 2012 08:51 PM (pR0/y)
Posted by: I Lurk Hard For My Money at November 06, 2012 08:51 PM (MG6Y6)
I feel really bad for you guys.
If I choose to, I at least have the option of ignoring US political and news sites for the next few weeks....or few years if need be.
You guys have to actually live with all this shit.....
Posted by: AussieMarcus at November 06, 2012 08:51 PM (RstsB)
Posted by: BillS at November 06, 2012 08:51 PM (kD5zU)
"Obama Victory Comes With No Mandate"
By Ron Fournier"
Yeah, he lost Indiana and only increased his majority in the Senate by a schooch.
Come on Ron.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2012 08:51 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: dIb at November 06, 2012 08:51 PM (aRwtY)
Both will be used as currency in very short order. 5 feet of TP will get you 5 gallons of gas or 5 pounds pot.
Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 06, 2012 08:51 PM (Ea64Y)
Gonna go to bed they literally stole this, but that it was close enough to steal is why I need to sleep and think. I think I hate America as much as barack and Lt Worf did prior to 2008 and I don't want to feel this way.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 06, 2012 08:51 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at November 06, 2012 08:51 PM (Cl95C)
Posted by: Big T Party at November 06, 2012 08:52 PM (oDtMj)
Gridlock baby. Congress's approval rating is in the toilet anyway. Own it...LOL...
Posted by: The Flying Dutchman, aloft on winged klompen at November 06, 2012 08:52 PM (Sa7XJ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 08:52 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 08:52 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: dIb at November 06, 2012 08:52 PM (aRwtY)
Is that Question Mark Guy still around??
Posted by: Jaylord at November 07, 2012 12:45 AM (Y6qC4)
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Like I said. A bit of work on the house (which is paid for) and I go to a three day work-week and start collecting SS. If they want collapse, I'll help hurry it along. Then we can have our big shoot out and when the dust settles, we start over. Fuck you, 50+%ers.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 08:53 PM (pbU/y)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 08:53 PM (Z9EHQ)
Exactly. I don't give a shit if it's me against entire nation.
Half the country proved themselves to be greedy, small-minded morons who can't think ahead more than three seconds.
They'll be squealing like stuck pigs in about two years. Libertarians said it's better for us to experience the crash all at once than hire Romney to just slow it down.
Now we get to find out what it's like to have that crash. And all the Obama voters are in the same boat as the rest of us, so don't even bother to listen to their gloating.
They're basically people who've just swallowed arsenic and are going, "Whattaya think of that, eh, asshole?"
Well... I think, "Fine. Enjoy it."
Posted by: Llarry at November 06, 2012 08:53 PM (SI/pw)
Maybe Romney will do one of those "non concession" concession speeches.
Didn't Kerry do that in 2004 "We waited four years, we can wait one night", or whatever it was?
Posted by: AussieMarcus at November 06, 2012 08:53 PM (RstsB)
Semi-serious: Thinking about packing up and leaving the Dakota Territory and moving to Texas. "But Al" I hear you say - "doesn't North Dakota have a wonderful, booming economy?" To which I reply "Yes, yes it does - for now. At least until the Obama weasels in the EPA create a regulation with the force of law that prevents fracking and anything else that is allowing North Dakota to pump oil out of the ground like there's no tomorrow." What they can't do by law, they'll do by fiat - and as we've seen, the Congress is gutless when it comes to standing up to an out-of-control Executive branch.
The big Q: Can anyone of the Moron Horde point out any flaw(s) in my current line of reasoning? Please?
Posted by: Al Shabbah at November 06, 2012 08:54 PM (egU9u)
Posted by: derit at November 06, 2012 08:54 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 08:54 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 08:54 PM (r2PLg)
Our fucking country was just robbed.
Does anyone get that?
Posted by: George Patton at November 06, 2012 08:54 PM (qBLA2)
They consist of balkanized groups of people who don't necessarily like each other and have only the fear of Republicans in common. Each feels that they are entitled to be first in line at the trough.
If Republicans didn't exist, the Dems would have to create them to conjure up boogey men to keep their serfs in line
Posted by: kbdabear at November 06, 2012 08:54 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Fast becoming Furious at November 06, 2012 08:54 PM (Xa1VJ)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 06, 2012 08:54 PM (yJYwC)
There's going to be a lot of layoffs between now and Jan. from employers wanting to beat the 2013 tax hikes. Watch for it.
Of course, that just means more people on welfare. Just as the dems want.
This country is so fucked.
Posted by: Soona at November 07, 2012 12:43 AM (pbU/y)
Yes, and approximately twenty of them are going to be from me, unfortunately.
I should mention at this point that I hate being in business, because I really, really, really hate letting people go.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 06, 2012 08:54 PM (PW5Tr)
It doesn't add up to me. I know what I saw on the ground in central and SE Virginia, and that was a huge enthusiasm difference from 08 to 12. Yet Romney does, so far, 60,000 votes WORSE than McCain? Especially considering as well the threats to this state via sequestration and military cuts in general, which will destroy this economy not only for the military jobs factor, but also for the shipyards factor?
None of this makes sense to me.
Posted by: VAgirl at November 06, 2012 08:54 PM (U9x6W)
Posted by: California red at November 06, 2012 08:55 PM (DXTKe)
Posted by: Soona at November 07, 2012 12:43 AM (pbU/y)
hummm ... Is that smoke that I smell coming out of the gears of the machine?! Why, yes! By golly, it is the system trying to correct itself, lurching here and there, bumping and grinding up every citizen in it's path. Better to rebuild on a good solid foundation than to patch up old broken systems that are hanging over the edge of a cliff, me thinks.
Posted by: and irresolute at November 06, 2012 08:55 PM (DBH1h)
Posted by: Come and Take It at November 06, 2012 08:55 PM (WeTTX)
"Karl Rove Disputes Ohio Call"
I'm going to be seeing that one in my fucking nightmares. Better get used to third world, eastern European style socialist hell. Because that's where we are. We even have Pravda to go with it.
On the bright side, the YouTube Video guy gets out of jail on Friday. If they let him.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 06, 2012 08:55 PM (6JMZR)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 08:55 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 08:55 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: MrX at November 06, 2012 08:55 PM (PxmNZ)
Sums it up pretty well actually. "what to do" is another question, Imho this is an actionable assault on the majority of hard working, right thinking people who want to work and provide for the people they care for, by the others who want to coast and be paid for by them. Tipping point reached.
Posted by: Modgi at November 06, 2012 08:55 PM (3xuDv)
Oh, Lord. Krauthammer's saying it's because Romney wasn't a good enough candidate - not genuinely conservative enough.
I almost always think Krauthammer is spot-on, but the idea that Romney lost because he wasn't Ronald f-ing Reagan doesn't fly with me. The problem is that the MFM and the educational system have successfully brainwashed the nitwits that now inhabit this country.
Posted by: Optimizer at November 06, 2012 08:55 PM (Mxt9o)
It seems to outrageous, like blaming UFOs or something. But it doesn't compute. Did so many find Mitt a RINO Flip Flopper? Did so many actually vote for the non-mormon? I don't want to fool myself here, but I am stumped.
:wq!
Posted by: InsertCleverNameHere at November 06, 2012 08:55 PM (SS8WM)
Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 08:55 PM (JycCV)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 06, 2012 08:56 PM (vk1zz)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 06, 2012 08:56 PM (SzAZ7)
Gee, I wonder what the reaction will be when all those union coal miners in Ohio and Pennsylvania lose their jobs?
Posted by: YIKES! at November 06, 2012 08:56 PM (1PE/J)
Posted by: Ben Ghazi at November 06, 2012 08:56 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: troyriser at November 06, 2012 08:56 PM (ptcFO)
You want to win the public? Teach the public.
What can you do without government permission?
Answer You Subject.
Posted by: Dane County, Wisconsin at November 06, 2012 08:56 PM (aP6Y+)
Posted by: Hoarymarmot at November 06, 2012 08:56 PM (/LSG0)
Posted by: GroverMuhfugginCleveland at November 06, 2012 08:56 PM (LXKJo)
I sympathize with you. I'm 52 and I believe that Civil War is now inevitable. I'm just trying to decide whether to move from Ohio to Idaho (been looking at that for awhile) so I can jump to Canada quick when the shit hits the fan, move to Chile (I'm an engineer with a grad degree so I can find a job anywhere), or stay and fight.
But I don't think option three is is really an option. I'm getting too old and these assholes aren't worth fighting for. Better to let it all go smash and start again.
Posted by: Jaylord at November 06, 2012 08:56 PM (Y6qC4)
Posted by: BillS at November 07, 2012 12:32 AM (kD5zU)
Yeah, gay marriage and legalized pot won while Akin and Murdoch lost. How about we blame social cons?
Posted by: txconservative at November 06, 2012 08:56 PM (5UMyr)
Posted by: dIb at November 06, 2012 08:56 PM (aRwtY)
Posted by: Elmer Fudge at November 06, 2012 08:56 PM (8tVOc)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 08:56 PM (9+ccr)
So the polls that showed people's main concern was the economy and that R. won in that area and that people thought that the country was heading in the wrong track and R. won that and that majority hated Obamacare and still O. won??? Does not compute.
Posted by: the clubfooted unshaven pegleg at November 06, 2012 08:56 PM (Q2wni)
Posted by: BillS at November 06, 2012 08:56 PM (kD5zU)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 07, 2012 12:54 AM (piMMO)
Yep. Bush was denied both his victory night speeches because of selfish Dems. It's time to do away with "Mr. Nice Guy" and make the Dems eat their own medicine.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 08:57 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Al Shabbah at November 07, 2012 12:54 AM
No I cannot. OH owes what economic growth they have to fracking, yet a shitload of them credit TFG for their good fortunes and don't know about his opposition to fracking because they didn't hear about it in a Glee episode, a Twilight movie, or on the Daily Show
Posted by: kbdabear at November 06, 2012 08:57 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 08:57 PM (JycCV)
Posted by: Nighthawk at November 06, 2012 08:57 PM (n1x7a)
Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 08:57 PM (0LX7P)
Well, that's it.
Bush will now be blamed in perpetuity, and Democrats will have a permanent advantage in demographics. Not going to give up, but it's going to be a different America.
I've lurked here for years and I'd like to say thanks to Ace and Co.
And Samwise, I owe you an apology.
Posted by: Nightowl at November 06, 2012 08:57 PM (qpstS)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 08:58 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: kawfytawk at November 06, 2012 08:58 PM (JWLqy)
Except when we're distrusting polls. You know, I really fucking hate that shit because it wrecks our credibility on stuff like AGW. But it's easy to get caught up in it, because we're human.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 06, 2012 08:58 PM (6JMZR)
Posted by: kbdabear at November 06, 2012 08:58 PM (wwsoB)
I was always afraid that the Dems would indeed turn out because while they were no longer viewing him as a Messiah, they were minorities who view him the way they view their football team and you have to support your fav team against their mortal enemies, and the progs feel the same about going up against the GOP.
Hume on Fox said that many liberals as we would define them by virtue of their position on politics, were going around calling themselves moderates, not because they were lying, but because they don't actually think their politics are "liberal." That's how far to the left we've moved, that our definitions are screwed up, so pollsters might have mistook the meaning of "moderate."
Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 08:58 PM (wgmUB)
Posted by: Al Shabbah at November 07, 2012 12:54 AM (egU9u)
If you're used to the weather in ND, then you should move north, not south.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2012 08:58 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 08:58 PM (9+ccr)
And it will all work. 60 years of darkness and money is not object.
Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 06, 2012 08:58 PM (Ea64Y)
Posted by: The Political Hat at November 06, 2012 08:58 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 06, 2012 08:58 PM (9eL3/)
Posted by: Nighthawk at November 06, 2012 08:58 PM (n1x7a)
America's system is biased toward two parties; since the GOP is the white male party, and since everyone else hates us, the GOP can't be that alternative. But an anti-Obama party not explicitly conservative has hope.
We'll still be socialist, but at least we won't be a tyranny.
I assume we'll still have a democracy by then; there "is much ruin in a nation", and it's probably safest to assume incomplete ruin in the next four years.
Posted by: boulder hobo at November 06, 2012 08:59 PM (QTHTd)
I live on 10 acres of good farmland and have 40 of woodland. Both with houses. Going Galt will be easier than for me than the urban pissants who voted for his fuckstain. I will miss the niceties of life with electricity and a gas line but I've done it before so it'll be worth it.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 06, 2012 08:59 PM (cLAkX)
Posted by: The Political Hat at November 06, 2012 08:59 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 08:59 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Seamus McLurker at November 06, 2012 08:59 PM (WAL4N)
Really?
Want some scary analysis you won't hear as it's not politically correct?
'80 Ronald Reagan just lost tonight. Mitt Romney's performance among non-minority voters was roughly equivalent to Reagan's in 1980. The difference between an epic landslide of 46 states going red and getting beat tonight is that the country is 15% more minority, whose vote propensity maps all too well to welfare transfer payments provided by said party. Not to mention Romney was getting near pitch perfect at the end; think about it, Reagan himself would have lost in this electorate.
Chew on that.
It's a Brave New World...
Philip Klein wrote: "Romney has won white voters by the same 20-point margin, 59 percent to 39 percent. But the big difference is that in 1980, whites were 88 percent of the electorate, whereas in this election, they were just 73 percent." (http://tinyurl.com/alkhhwo)
Posted by: Uriah Heep -- in character at November 06, 2012 08:59 PM (jhI6f)
Romney was expected to address his supporters shortly thereafter.
jpost
Posted by: willow at November 06, 2012 08:59 PM (hX8cq)
Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 08:59 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: The Mad Analyst at November 06, 2012 08:59 PM (SnibU)
Resign.
I got out in part because I couldn't stand the thought of continuing to serve under this traitor.
Is it painful? Yes. But you have to decide which is more important.
Posted by: Alex at November 06, 2012 09:00 PM (HwgHt)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 06, 2012 09:00 PM (6JMZR)
Posted by: GroverMuhfugginCleveland at November 06, 2012 09:00 PM (LXKJo)
Posted by: kawfytawk at November 07, 2012 12:50 AM (JWLqy)
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I was just getting ready to type this when I saw yours. Yes, it's strange, isn't it?
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 09:00 PM (pbU/y)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 09:00 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: madamex at November 06, 2012 09:00 PM (+kvQd)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 09:01 PM (9+ccr)
Our fucking country was just robbed.
Does anyone get that?
Yup. But what is in our (any of our) power?
Romney did as best he could, with a GREAT disadvantage.
Against likely the most corrupt administration EVER.
And the most corrupt/ biased MSM.
Maybe it's inevitable: down Europe's path we go.
End of America.
I hope not. I hope warriors on our side will never surrender.
Tonight, however, I'm just going to get drunk. And deal with it as best I can.
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 09:01 PM (tUcg9)
Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 09:01 PM (JycCV)
17what am i going to do now?? does anyone else feel like they're done with politics??
Right now I'm starting to think that the democratic process is a failed experiment. At least we could overthrow tyranny if it wasn't already cloathed in the raiment of democracy and had the stamp of populism. But who would strive for the real thing when the mere semblance has been embraced by the masses?
Posted by: Speller at November 06, 2012 09:01 PM (J74Py)
Posted by: Robert at November 06, 2012 09:01 PM (LUnTP)
Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 06, 2012 09:01 PM (Ea64Y)
Our fucking country was just robbed.
Does anyone get that?
Posted by: George Patton at November 07, 2012 12:54 AM (qBLA2)
I get it, aye. What can be done? The electorate... doesn't care.
We need to understand this. Barack Obama is but a symptom of the problem. The country is ill and divided against itself. Even if Obama had been defeated, the lazy, apathetic, scornful half of the country that put him in power in the first place would still be there.
Several posters have correctly identified the problem, that is, approximately one out of two people in the United States are American in name only, but the solution still eludes us. Most of the posters here, God bless them all, are more generous of spirit than I, I regret to say. They say that we must work to change the country, play long ball.
I do not believe that we can coexist anymore, and that a schism must occur. When and how, I don't know, but there are indeed two Americas, and we must part ways before too much longer. Give them the Northeast and California/Nevada/New Mexico, keep Oregon and the Southeast so we have open water access on both sides of the continent, and split the damn nation in twain, we keep half, they keep half, and we bid one another adieu. It's long done in spirit, time to catch up with the zeitgeist.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 06, 2012 09:01 PM (PW5Tr)
I think the internals of the Romney pollsters told him he was going to win. They had the democratic vote too low.
The guy I saw last night in NH thought he was going to win and I knew it when I saw his wife. She was beaming, as if she'd been given good news.
I think the excursions into other states were because they had the money to spend and they had mined as many votes as they thought they could get in the battlegrounds and when I heard Marco Rubio interviewed by Hannity last night, he was beaming. He said he believed FLA would be called for Romney early, whereas all year he admonished us to know that FLA was always razor close. Last night, he said, Romney by 3.
This was clearly a year in which the Dem turnout was more than the GOP expected. However, I'd like to see the turnout of young voters, which can't possibly be as high as 4 years ago so I'd like to see where Obama made that up. I'll bet it's with some seniors who "get stuff." I know some.
Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 09:02 PM (wgmUB)
Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 09:03 PM (JycCV)
Posted by: dIb at November 06, 2012 09:03 PM (aRwtY)
Posted by: Rich at November 06, 2012 09:03 PM (arczc)
Posted by: madamex at November 06, 2012 09:03 PM (+kvQd)
If you've lived off the government your whole life, the last four years weren't any worse than the previous eight. Shit, if your government money is in the form of working for the government, the last four years were fucking awesome for you (on average; individual Morons may have other experiences but there's a reason DC never had a housing bust and the average household income there skyrocketed...).
like the early American revolutionaries, free men and women dedicated to the preservation of first principles, sons and daughters of the Enlightenment.
I think the people who live here have made it pretty cool they're not interested in that shit.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 06, 2012 09:03 PM (hO8IJ)
First of all, Truck Monkey, I hope you don't mind I'm totally stealing "Benghaziquiddick."
Second, there's no, and I mean N-to-the-muthafuckkin-O way there wasn't some cheating going on. Obama's people have the motivation and the willingness to pull that type of shit. Just one example: the shit stains on twitter apparently bragging about how they voted two or three times. I'm hoping that's some type of hoax or sick sense of humor on their part.
So I'm not pulling the trigger on the gun in my mouth yet (though I AM cursing a whole helluva lot). I'll wait until the morning, when every last vote is counted, then recounted (please please please). Though if Romney does "the right thing" and concedes, I'll have to travel to Massachusetts, punch him right in the fleshy sac where his balls used to be, then eat lead, because the thought of this beautiful, amazing country simply enjoying its decline instead of trying to be great by living up to our founding, core principles sickens me.
Seriously, fucking enough. Enough with republicans/cons always playing nice while the other side has free reign to latch onto "but thaaaat's noooooot faaaaaaiiiiir!!!! NAZIS!!!1eleventy!" like rabid pitbulls. Obviously about half the country doesn't give a teeny flying squirrel shit about who's more gentlemanly and knowledgeable, just who can *compassionately funnel them the free shit they deserve*, so no loss there to show some cojones.
Romney better fight this fucker to the bitter end, if he truly cares about the country. TFG and his minions DO NOT in any way, shape, or form deserve to a) win, b) gloat. No "peaceful transition of power" until we know the war was won fairly.
Well, that's my rant contribution. At least I have you guys to keep me entertained. that should hold off the wrist-slitting for, oh, a year or two
p.s. - and people wonder why i don't want kids now. what would i be leaving them?!
Posted by: ninjaphish at November 06, 2012 09:03 PM (VTXt1)
Posted by: MrX at November 06, 2012 09:04 PM (PxmNZ)
Posted by: NC Ref at November 06, 2012 09:04 PM (/Rruc)
Posted by: rld77 at November 06, 2012 09:04 PM (V9pD7)
Posted by: Modgi at November 06, 2012 09:04 PM (3xuDv)
Posted by: 80sBaby at November 06, 2012 09:04 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Minuteman at November 06, 2012 09:04 PM (PAb+f)
DAMN YOU FUCKING REPUBLICANS
FOR TAKING THE "HIGH ROAD!" THIS IS WHAT IT BROUGHT YA!!
LOSERS...FUCKING.....LOSERS!!
NOW WHAT?....Ya LOST BIG TIME and you suck dick for the effort...cause ya all all are p u s s y ' s. GET A CLUE....GROW A PAIR!!!
AND FIGHT!!! IF YA HAVE IT IN YA!!!! 2016 but please grow a pair!!
Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 06, 2012 09:04 PM (tKpj6)
Two questions:
1. Was it just me, or did FOX suddenly turn into MSNBC? They were calling states for Obama long before CNN or even MSNBC would dare to do so...and they appeared almost giddy when they did it.
With no reason to protect Obama now, will the press pull back on the love fest...just a little? I realize they still have to protect the Dem image, but at least cut down on the on-air fellatio?
Posted by: Icedog at November 06, 2012 09:05 PM (PTS+l)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 07, 2012 01:00 AM (6JMZR)
It doesn't matter who votes, it only matters who counts the votes. --Joseph Stalin ·
Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 06, 2012 09:05 PM (Ea64Y)
Posted by: cthulhu at November 07, 2012 12:58 AM (kaalw)
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Baraka and his regime is going to shut ND down. Goodbye oil revenues.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 09:05 PM (pbU/y)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 09:06 PM (ZPrif)
The Republican nominees for president have been Other Democrats for two fucking decades.
But now the cunning plan has failed twice in a row.
So the GOP is going to swing hard left.
Over-under on "Obama would be a Republican now!" reaching GOP why-won't-they-like-me? cliché status (à la "JFK would be..."): ten years.
In fifteen, "Really, I'm an Obama Democrat; the party left me..." will be every Republican's go-to schtick when they have to lick D ass in public.
It is written.
Posted by: oblig. (who's been politely silent) at November 06, 2012 09:06 PM (cePv8)
So Mitt is a spineless wuss just like Mac. Great. Thanks, Mitt, for getting my hopes up only to concede way too early.
I'll ask again if anyone knows, but when Dewey was declared the winner, did Truman concede? Just wondering. Mitt's concedeing won't stand in the way should the recounts end up in Mitt's favor. He'd be the winner no matter what. But if he doesn't FIGHT for it, then who will?
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 09:06 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: oblig. (who's been politely silent) at November 06, 2012 09:06 PM (cePv8)
Posted by: GroverMuhfugginCleveland at November 06, 2012 09:07 PM (LXKJo)
I urge everyone here who is concerned about the demographics of this country and the illegal problem to start reading and participating in a great blog by Steve Sailer. There are archives for you to peruse at your leisure. Lots of academics and people in the soft and hard sciences post there anonymously because it's a human biodiversity blog and one that examines the changing demos of our country and what that means.
Steve has been very harsh on the GOP for its failure to adopt the "Sailer Strategy."
Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 09:07 PM (wgmUB)
This is what I believe. Fraud is explanation #1.
Unfortunately, it's not the only factor.
If Obama wins (I still insist on phrasing that as a hypothetical), the USA has turned a historical corner.
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 09:07 PM (tUcg9)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at November 06, 2012 09:07 PM (Cl95C)
Posted by: GroverMuhfugginCleveland at November 06, 2012 09:07 PM (LXKJo)
Posted by: Dello at November 06, 2012 09:07 PM (PAb+f)
Told my single daughter that has a kid with a worthless fuck father to just quit trying to do the right thing. Take what you can cause it is the only way to get your inheritance.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 06, 2012 09:07 PM (cLAkX)
Posted by: Average Guy at November 06, 2012 09:07 PM (uycZQ)
1) 2 more Supreme Court Justices and he can argue that the 22nd Amendment violates the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause (or whatever, does it matter?)
2) What do you think the primal scream against Voter ID laws was about?
3) Renewed Fairness Act (through executive fiat), Internet Censorship, DHS and IRS stormtroopers etc. shut down any opposition to Obama.
If you don't think it can happen here, look at the history of Argentina and Juan Peron. He and his ilk took Argentina from the 2nd most prosperous country in the world straight to the bottom using the exact same methods and arguments Obama uses.
There is no hope for America!
Posted by: Jaylord at November 06, 2012 09:07 PM (Y6qC4)
Posted by: GroverMuhfugginCleveland at November 06, 2012 09:08 PM (LXKJo)
Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 07, 2012 01:05 AM (Ea64Y)
Yeah. Spain counted our votes this year. And we concede? WTF!
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 09:08 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 09:08 PM (JycCV)
Posted by: BillS at November 06, 2012 09:09 PM (kD5zU)
Won't save them. Totalitarian states only have one party.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 06, 2012 09:09 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Wendy at November 06, 2012 09:09 PM (7KSGe)
....
With no reason to protect Obama now, will the press pull back on the love fest...just a little? I realize they still have to protect the Dem image, but at least cut down on the on-air fellatio?
Posted by: Icedog at November 07, 2012 01:05 AM (PTS+l)
Now it will go farther to pure propaganda and lies. "Benghazi was a protest and the report that say other are lies from the lying near dead GOP" They will have the Obama logo as a back drop that they report real news in front of.
Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 06, 2012 09:09 PM (Ea64Y)
long time lurker--I made pudding this morning (yesterday now) and it's still in the fridge here too.
Turned 55 end of September.
two kids, almost adults both.
It is astonishing that we just became Greece, and a majority thinks that feels so goooooood.
I'm glad my parents lived through the Great Depression, and talked a lot before they died.
I'm glad I know how to grow some things, catch and clean some others, sew, can, basic tools, and where the stars are different times of year.
Galt in plain sight, for as long as possible.
Wonderful post by you--I've been drinking for hours too, but I'm Irish-Hungarian, so I have time left to go. I'm done crying, but not planning.
Tomorrow I'll be up on time, get everyone fed and out the door, and then start sorting things to sell as well.
So many foolish people! Who now think they know
Posted by: barbarausa at November 06, 2012 09:09 PM (WWeoI)
I am a terribly selfish individual, and am glad that my friends won't be at risk of betrayal much longer, but I am grieved to hear such things from soldiers of the USA.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 06, 2012 09:10 PM (PW5Tr)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 06, 2012 09:10 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 09:10 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: dIb at November 06, 2012 09:10 PM (aRwtY)
Nope. No way in hell.
Posted by: GroverMuhfugginCleveland at November 07, 2012 01:07 AM (LXKJo
That's what I figured. I know it wouldn't matter who conceded if the recounts go Mitt's way but he should've put on the show of a fight. When your leader quits, it's hard to fight for him.
I started to really love Mitt even tho he was not my 1st choice (PERRY), now I'm disappointed that he conded. I hate politics.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 09:10 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: PJ at November 06, 2012 09:11 PM (DQHjw)
Any of you guys got a good pony to favor in the series?
Posted by: radioactive at November 06, 2012 09:11 PM (79KO9)
Posted by: kawfytawk at November 06, 2012 09:11 PM (JWLqy)
Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 09:11 PM (JycCV)
Posted by: lowandslow at November 06, 2012 09:11 PM (GZitp)
And they're right.
And that realization is a knife twisting in my heart.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 06, 2012 09:12 PM (PW5Tr)
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
¯ Alexis de Tocqueville
Posted by: Icedog at November 06, 2012 09:12 PM (PTS+l)
Never thought I'd be one of those guys. But I've got a wife and three young children, and though I'm a Marine vet and patriot, I need to know if there is any other country I could think of as an alternative. Obama will tip the scales, and the entitled will reach over 51% from now on. Any ideas? Or is it, like Steyn warned, America Alone?
Posted by: Mike at November 06, 2012 09:12 PM (RZRkr)
Posted by: MrX at November 06, 2012 09:12 PM (PxmNZ)
"Go and never return. This country does not need such fair weather citizens."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2012 09:12 PM (SkUim)
Posted by: no good deed at November 06, 2012 09:12 PM (mjR67)
1) 2 more Supreme Court Justices and he can argue that the 22nd Amendment violates the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause (or whatever, does it matter?)
2) What do you think the primal scream against Voter ID laws was about?
3) Renewed Fairness Act (through executive fiat), Internet Censorship, DHS and IRS stormtroopers etc. shut down any opposition to Obama.
If you don't think it can happen here, look at the history of Argentina and Juan Peron. He and his ilk took Argentina from the 2nd most prosperous country in the world straight to the bottom using the exact same methods and arguments Obama uses.
There is no hope for America!
Posted by: Jaylord at November 07, 2012 01:07 AM (Y6qC4)
Y'know, there is nothing written in stone that says the internet has to operate in cleartext -- packets can be clear or encrypted, makes no difference to the backbone.....it just means you need websites and browsers that encrypt/decrypt on the fly.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2012 09:13 PM (kaalw)
The old media is still in control. There has been some dents put in the armour (thanks to Ace...and others like)...but until that control changes we are going to be fucked over and over...
THE END
Posted by: WTF-4 more years (or more) at November 06, 2012 09:13 PM (EceF8)
You really don't get what going Galt is do You.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 06, 2012 09:13 PM (cLAkX)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 06, 2012 09:13 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Ben Ghazi at November 06, 2012 09:13 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Dello at November 06, 2012 09:13 PM (PAb+f)
Posted by: dIb at November 06, 2012 09:13 PM (aRwtY)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 06, 2012 09:14 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: troyriser at November 06, 2012 09:14 PM (ptcFO)
Posted by: madamex at November 06, 2012 09:14 PM (+kvQd)
Dem turnout advantage almost equal to 2008 strongly suggests fraud.
Romney conceded too early. It is over,.
'A Republic, if you can keep it'.
We couldn't.
No real reason to expect to win the White House in 2016, and Obama has four more years to intentionally destroy the country. Debt will be at least $20T. The military gutted, half the country on the dole. There is no way to fix that without the pain ensuring a one term presidency, and since it won't be fixed, four more years for the next treasonous Marxist fuck to destroy it even more.
Posted by: Ed Mahmoud at November 06, 2012 09:15 PM (RFQlS)
Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 09:15 PM (JycCV)
Posted by: Boomer at November 06, 2012 09:15 PM (B9oZc)
Posted by: GroverMuhfugginCleveland at November 06, 2012 09:15 PM (LXKJo)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 09:15 PM (Z9EHQ)
Not until long after the rest of us are starved out.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 06, 2012 09:15 PM (hO8IJ)
Do you really think Obama's going any where in 2016?!?
Posted by: Jaylord
Heck, he's at +3 in the Senate and they're still counting. Just ask the usual Republicans to walk across the aisle yet again and get 67 to pass a constitution amendment because "voice of the people" and "world's oldest democracy" and what not.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2012 09:15 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: spotted reptile at November 06, 2012 09:16 PM (OFIz8)
Posted by: GroverMuhfugginCleveland at November 06, 2012 09:17 PM (LXKJo)
Posted by: madamex at November 06, 2012 09:17 PM (+kvQd)
Posted by: BillS at November 06, 2012 09:17 PM (kD5zU)
Posted by: That Guy at November 06, 2012 09:17 PM (LmEvg)
You and I know how to do that (communicate covertly), but the real 99% (the ignorant toadfuckers that make up most of the American population) don't.
And they don't care. All they want is their free stuff from Obama.
I'm not quite to the point of wishing the Ayatollahs would hurry up and nuke DC, NYC, and LA, but I'm getting closer.
If it's going to happen (and it is now inevitable), it's better it happens sooner rather than later.
Posted by: Jaylord at November 06, 2012 09:18 PM (Y6qC4)
Posted by: dIb at November 06, 2012 09:18 PM (aRwtY)
Posted by: GroverMuhfugginCleveland at November 06, 2012 09:19 PM (LXKJo)
Steve has been very harsh on the GOP for its failure to adopt the "Sailer Strategy."
http://isteve.blogspot.com/
Posted by: gayle in ca at November 07, 2012 01:07 AM (wgmUB)
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Why? We already know that illegal immigration has fucked our country. I don't need academia to teach me that. It's all around all of us.
One of the things we haven't mentioned is the fact we'll be seeing a lot more shari-like laws passed now.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 09:19 PM (pbU/y)
WASHINGTON, DC – House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) issued the following statement regarding the results of the 2012 presidential election:
“The American people re-elected the president, and re-elected our majority in the House.
If there is a mandate, it is a mandate for both parties to find common ground and take steps together to help our economy grow and create jobs, which is critical to solving our debt.
I offer sincere congratulations to President and Mrs. Obama and to Vice President and Dr. Biden. I wish Mitt, Ann, Paul, Janna and their families well, and thank them for having carried the banner of our party and our principles with strength, grace, and courage.”
Why, I'm shocked? Boehner wanting to compromise?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2012 09:20 PM (kdS6q)
It doesn't add up to me. I know what I saw on the ground in central and SE Virginia, and that was a huge enthusiasm difference from 08 to 12. Yet Romney does, so far, 60,000 votes WORSE than McCain? Especially considering as well the threats to this state via sequestration and military cuts in general, which will destroy this economy not only for the military jobs factor, but also for the shipyards factor?
None of this makes sense to me.
Posted by: VAgirl at November 07, 2012 12:54 AM (U9x6W)
Those were the numbers from about an hour ago, and I bet in the end, Romney's numbers are about the same as McCain's were in 08, but Obama's are down 150K. It doesn't make any sense when you see that Romney ran big down in coal country and the suburbs, but the rural areas seem to be where he dropped the ball.
Posted by: MrCaniac at November 06, 2012 09:20 PM (Zd/NW)
IF IT IS NOT CLOSE.....THEY CAN'T CHEAT
WELCOME TO 2012 and OBAMA...the pouser in chief
doom we are and doom we are.so much FUCKED AMERICANS we are
die this Country....DIE this COUNTRY....shed a tear...for we die...this country....we die......
Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 06, 2012 09:20 PM (tKpj6)
Live Free . . . Or Die
By Mark Steyn; NRO; November 6, 2012 11:03 P.M.
As disappointing for me as Mitt losing New Hampshire has been the down-ticket races in the Granite State. In 2010, Republicans won both House seats, the Senate seat, three-quarters of State Reps, 80 percent of State Senate seats, and 100 percent of the Executive Council. Two years later, Democrats have taken the governorship and may well take both House seats, and the vote tallies theyÂ’re racking up in hardcore plaid-clad North Country towns far from the Massachusetts border are remarkable.
A lot of the telly chatter is about how Republicans don’t get the shifting demographics: America is becoming more of a “brown country,” as Kirsten Powers put it on Fox. But New Hampshire is overwhelmingly white — and the GOP still blew it. The fact is a lot of pasty, Caucasian, non-immigrant Americans have also “shifted,” and are very comfortable with Big Government, entitlements, micro-regulation, Obamacare and all the rest — and not much concerned with how or if it’s paid for.
If this is the way America wants to go off the cliff, so be it. But I wish we’d at least had a Big Picture election. The motto of the British SAS is “Who dares wins.” The Republicans chose a different path. A play-it-safe don’t-frighten-the-horses strategy may have had a certain logic, but it’s unworthy of the times.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 06, 2012 09:20 PM (nkiQM)
"Go and never return. This country does not need such fair weather citizens."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 07, 2012 01:12 AM (SkUim)
Yeah, that's probably what France is saying to guys like this -- http://tinyurl.com/bzlxftf -- but there is nothing wrong with avoiding confiscation through a temporary shift of scene. How is it more patriotic to stay put and watch your accumulated success fed into the ever-hungry maw of the beast?
Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2012 09:21 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: lowandslow at November 07, 2012 01:11 AM (GZitp)
So those reports of electronic machine changing the Romney votes to O votes (but never the other way around) were false? The stories and pictures of NBPP intimidating voters in Philly were made up? The Somalis being bussed in by Dems? The Chicagoans being bussed into IA b/c there's no voter id there? Romney winning indies by double-digits or being up 51% in Gallup. All fake, huh?
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 09:21 PM (KL49F)
He still does not have the required 3/4 of the states for that, I'm pretty sure.
That won't stop him, though. After he packs the Court, anything he wants to do will be "constitutional".
Posted by: GroverMuhfugginCleveland at November 07, 2012 01:19 AM (LXKJo)
Exactly. They don't really believe in the Constitution so why would they let it stop them. Obama just made himself Dictator for life, to start with.
Next stop is God-Emperor.
Posted by: Jaylord at November 06, 2012 09:21 PM (Y6qC4)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 06, 2012 09:22 PM (X3lox)
I grieve, I grieve for all of us. Including those who (cluelessly) voted for Obama. The sad thing is, most Obama supporters/ voters will have to suffer as much as us. FUCK THEM.
And I really grieve for anyone in the armed forces (most of whom were not able to vote in this election).
Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 09:22 PM (tUcg9)
Posted by: t-bird at November 06, 2012 09:24 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: dIb at November 06, 2012 09:26 PM (aRwtY)
Posted by: GroverMuhfugginCleveland at November 06, 2012 09:26 PM (LXKJo)
Nothing about tonight makes sense unless its voter fraud on an unprecedented scale brought to you by the DoJ and the Secretary of State Project. The rallies, the polls, the independents, nothing at all makes sense about tonight's 'results'.
Posted by: BuckNaked at November 06, 2012 09:27 PM (dlfef)
How many I ask you, how many Frenchmen supported it?
Many, is the answer--more than 50%.
Good bye you all. I've come to love this place.
But, it's time to put silly things aside. There is no time for that now.
I'll check in tomorrow but I'm leaving politics.
We cannot trust those we cannot see much longer. That means here.
Posted by: RoyalOil at November 06, 2012 09:27 PM (imtbm)
Posted by: andycanuck at November 06, 2012 09:27 PM (nkiQM)
I grieve, I grieve for all of us. Including those who (cluelessly) voted for Obama. The sad thing is, most Obama supporters/ voters will have to suffer as much as us. FUCK THEM.
And I really grieve for anyone in the armed forces (most of whom were not able to vote in this election).
Posted by: lael at November 07, 2012 01:22 AM (tUcg9)
I was just talking to people at work yesterday and I told them that as a veteran the single thing I'm most furious with GW about is that he made no real effort to fix the problems with Military Voting. It's the Military for Christ's sake. As commander in cheif order teh XO of every unit to sit down in a room with all their troops with a ballot for 30 minutes each election. You can't make them fill a ballot out, but by God as the Commander-and-Chief you can ensure they have access to one.
Posted by: Jaylord at November 06, 2012 09:28 PM (Y6qC4)
That, of course, presupposes that they'll stay put while you do so.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2012 09:28 PM (kaalw)
Tell you what you get me a green card and i will go happily. No pretense at a bill of rights, but a lot of resources and a genuine love for free enterprise this nation killed tonight. Get me a green card and in a New york Chris Christie style New jersey minute.
Barack obama just won reelection based on a hurricane, a blowjob from the MSM, and the American people playing Harlan roulette.
I am not wanting to go along for the ride, there are NO leaders in this nation willing to say "fuck you DC we'll leave."
Freedom dies when you keep caving, better to go to a nation never having made a pretense of having had guaranteed liberty.
We just "reelected" a guy who threw the 1st amendment under the bus. I hate evidently 50.2% of voters with a burning violent rage.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 06, 2012 09:29 PM (LRFds)
Exactly. They don't really believe in the Constitution so why would they let it stop them. Obama just made himself Dictator for life, to start with.
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That is a consideration that we must be aware of. This might have been the last American style election.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 09:29 PM (pbU/y)
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 06, 2012 09:30 PM (PW5Tr)
Posted by: t-bird at November 06, 2012 09:32 PM (FcR7P)
Will any state stand up?
Or is it done?
Posted by: RoyalOil at November 06, 2012 09:33 PM (imtbm)
Posted by: dIb at November 06, 2012 09:33 PM (aRwtY)
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 06, 2012 09:33 PM (jts1f)
Posted by: sven10077 at November 07, 2012 01:29 AM (LRFds)
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I do too and I hate the feeling. Many people that I'd considered as friends will no longer be. We think tonight is sad. It's only going to get worse.
Posted by: Soona at November 06, 2012 09:33 PM (pbU/y)
See you all on the next ONT, and God bless you all.
Posted by: MrCaniac at November 06, 2012 09:34 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at November 06, 2012 09:34 PM (IlZPo)
o.o my whole life I have been a dedicated Christian, and so know that, eventually, things must sour, every empire and nation must fall, and that things must be generally abysmal by and by, but it is still very troubling to watch your own nation die.
tinyurl.com/ap9xhd3 for some contemplative music. Good night, all (._. ) sleep as best you can. Life goes on tomorrow, and we must too.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 06, 2012 09:34 PM (PW5Tr)
We can fight or leave. Right now my inclination is to leave. But maybe, just maybe, there's some fight left in enough of the American people...
But right now I have no hope...
Posted by: Jaylord at November 06, 2012 09:35 PM (Y6qC4)
Posted by: BuckNaked at November 07, 2012 01:27 AM (dlfef)
Remember hundreds of thousands of ballots that were on their way to our soldiers were destroyed in that plane crash...
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 09:35 PM (KL49F)
I need to sleep b/c I am not feeling good about anything I feel. William Fucking Ayers is in charge of the country more than I am. We never punished the marxists from the '60s and now they run the nation.
If they can be violent assholes why exactly can't right wingers be?
Posted by: sven10077 at November 06, 2012 09:35 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: parteagirl at November 06, 2012 09:36 PM (OXu/N)
But now I don't believe there will be.
There will be no taking back America. Socialism has the country by the throat. Too many people have made the devil's bargain and traded their freedom for petty entitlements.
So long as they get their government-bestowed baubles for today, they are happy for government to rule their lives and ruin their and America's future.
O and co went micro in this campaign, targeting people with microsecond-long attention spans and memories going back no further than last week. That worked for the Democrats. It will continue to work, because their "target market", the coming generation--schooled by leftists from cradle through college--is superficial, vapid, greedy, and cannot follow an argument more than three sentences long.
America has changed forever. The rot started in 2008 and now it has free reign, with the full and active consent of American voters.
America was the hope of the world, once.
The Vandals and the jackals are already circling. Now, aided by O's kneecapping of the military, they will start closing for the kill.
And all those who love freedom and have looked to America to preserve it and extend it had better fend for themselves as best they can. Obama does not want America to be a great power. He never understood what that power has meant to the free world. He never understood how that power was achieved or maintained.
So now, little by little, the world will fall to the savage, the cruel, the liars and the sadists.
Still, we tried.
Posted by: Ellyk at November 06, 2012 09:44 PM (qWr6c)
Posted by: Robert at November 06, 2012 09:46 PM (LUnTP)
I'm done with national politics. From now on I'll only work within my state, convincing my government to reassert its power and eventually kick out the federal government and seize power over ourselves again. That's the only way out and ALL OF YOU NEED TO START DOING THE SAME. I knew we were in trouble when I started seeing *ARMED* DHS agents on my city light rail.
Posted by: BuckNaked at November 06, 2012 09:47 PM (dlfef)
I Said I Would never post hear again, now I'm sorry to be here.,
we are so FUCKED....so very FUCKED........goodnight my M&M's
AMERICA as we know her is dead...least those that will fight to the death
so few it seems....so few.........
Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 06, 2012 09:50 PM (tKpj6)
Posted by: atlbelle64 at November 06, 2012 09:52 PM (Ll7td)
Yaaaaay, 4 more years of 1% raises and 10% inflation.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 06, 2012 09:52 PM (SkyIE)
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 06, 2012 09:53 PM (jts1f)
Posted by: atlbelle64 at November 06, 2012 09:58 PM (Ll7td)
Posted by: spotted reptile at November 06, 2012 09:58 PM (OFIz8)
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 06, 2012 10:00 PM (jts1f)
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 06, 2012 10:01 PM (jts1f)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 06, 2012 10:04 PM (yJYwC)
Sydney / Melbourne / Brisbane may as well be Europe but Perth is a 6 hour flight away and while they are part of the same country, the state of Western Australia is a frontier and anyone with skills who is willing to work hard can live like free men and women. I loved the place when I was there on business.
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 07, 2012 01:33 AM
Syd/Mel/Bne aren't as bad as Europe. The living's easy, it's relatively quiet and safe. Overall it's not a hard right but it's not moonbat left either. There's plenty of places outside the 3 big capitals that are ok, if cities aren't desirable. Perth is a good choice though and not as hot as north Queensland and northern territory. The laws re rifles aren't as easy as the US, but they aren't banned, either.
Posted by: otho at November 06, 2012 10:08 PM (yBF/9)
Posted by: George Custer at November 06, 2012 10:11 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 07, 2012 02:04 AM (yJYwC)
Y'know, if electronic voting machines just disappeared one out of every five Romney ballots, things would look pretty similar....
Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2012 10:13 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: BuckNaked at November 06, 2012 10:13 PM (dlfef)
Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2012 10:14 PM (kaalw)
It all just sucks.
And all I can say is that it is only going to get worse. The current crop of students is the most subsidized, coddled lot you have ever seen. They are definitely going to demand that their gravy train be continued.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 06, 2012 10:15 PM (d/5qf)
I've always wanted to visit Perth
Posted by: chemjeff at November 07, 2012 02:11 AM
It's definitely remote. For a capital city it's a looooong fucking way from anywhere. WA has a pretty small population and it's a big, big, desolate state.
Posted by: otho at November 06, 2012 10:15 PM (yBF/9)
Posted by: rfichoke at November 06, 2012 10:16 PM (bDAf2)
Posted by: Robert at November 06, 2012 10:18 PM (LUnTP)
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 06, 2012 10:19 PM (jts1f)
yes, Missouri went for Romney. bully for us.
of course McCrapskill got re-elected. ugh.
and, in terms of every other state-wide election, Democrats won, except for Lt. Gov., and then only barely - and the guy who won is, shall we say, a bit of a slimeball.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 06, 2012 10:21 PM (d/5qf)
"Go and never return. This country does not need such fair weather citizens."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 07, 2012 01:12 AM (SkUim)
Thank you. My sentiments exactly.
And I agree.
Posted by: alamogordo at November 06, 2012 10:22 PM (HUTO5)
helped out with CAC's AOSHQDD while eating pizza and drinking beer.
not going to weigh myself tomorrow, afraid of the result
Posted by: chemjeff at November 06, 2012 10:22 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 07, 2012 02:19 AM
Hell, yes. It's definitely tempting. Perth is a nice city and the living's pretty good. Lots of open space between towns out there. Nice beaches too.
Posted by: otho at November 06, 2012 10:22 PM (yBF/9)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 06, 2012 10:23 PM (d/5qf)
Yaaaaay, 4 more years of 1% raises and 10% inflation.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 07, 2012 01:52 AM (SkyIE)
I been laid off for over year. Nothing but under 30 hours a week jobs with no benefits out there. This is truly the age of plenty.
Posted by: YIKES! at November 06, 2012 10:24 PM (1PE/J)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 06, 2012 10:25 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: spotted reptile at November 06, 2012 10:25 PM (OFIz8)
Posted by: Robert at November 06, 2012 10:29 PM (LUnTP)
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 06, 2012 10:31 PM (jts1f)
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
¯ Alexis de Tocqueville
Just reposting this because it is SO TRUE!
Posted by: alamogordo at November 06, 2012 10:33 PM (HUTO5)
We should move our nation's capital to NE or OK or SD. It would be much more centrally located and we could go back to having representatives go there to work for a few months and then go fkn home.
*I'd like to spend more time in those places, but the limo libs would recoil at the thought*
Posted by: NC Ref at November 06, 2012 10:34 PM (/Rruc)
"Going Galt" = going home and taking my toys with me.
The "Obama is a dictator who will be president for life" meme again.
The "2012 election means America is over" crowd.
Go get drunk, take some time off, and come back when you're ready to talk sense again, about really taking the country back again...and not with some loony-bin bullshit about guns and 20 acres in Idaho.
Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 06, 2012 10:34 PM (fXInK)
Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 06, 2012 10:36 PM (fXInK)
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 06, 2012 10:37 PM (jts1f)
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 07, 2012 02:31 AM
Australia's got a lot of things going for it and the US has a lot of things going for it. There is definitely an overlap in many regards. The US has greater opportunities and freedoms compared to Australia. But, I don't know how long the situation in the US can last. Australia is remote and a big island, plus it has a small population and a kind of built in cultural inertia that acts as a brake on the excess of the left. The US is in trouble. It's population is getting too big, with too many not helping. Plus it's getting seriously balkanised and has the shit border that is just going to keep acting as a turnstile. It's definitely worth fighting for and tunring things around, but, I wonder if the point of no return has been reached. Trouble is, if the US goes belly up, Australia won't be in a good position either. It'll do alright longer, but it won't be business as usual.
Posted by: otho at November 06, 2012 10:41 PM (yBF/9)
Posted by: BuckNaked at November 06, 2012 10:46 PM (dlfef)
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 06, 2012 10:52 PM (jts1f)
My limited exposure to Australian women is that they're like women pretty much everywhere, but consider American guys ("yanks") to be wonderful gentlemen compared to the men they're used to. In fact, that has been my experience with women nearly everywhere outside the US and Canada.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 06, 2012 11:02 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 06, 2012 11:13 PM (jts1f)
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Posted by: NC Ref at November 06, 2012 08:08 PM (/Rruc)