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December 14, 2012

Overnight Open Thread (14 Dec 2012)
— CDR M

Last night was the peak but you can still try to catch the Geminid Meteor Shower. SMOD is such a tease. Beer

So any of you morons try This Beer? 6 bottles for $84.99??? I don't care how good it is, it's not $84.99 good. Of course, in my view, the best beer is the cold one that's in your hand.

Westvleteren XII is produced by Trappist monks in Belgium and sold at the abbey of Saint Sixtus in the Belgian countryside. The beer can usually only be purchased by reservation at the abbey - and reservations are extremely hard to come by.

I suppose this would beat an O'Doul's if you had to drink something non-alcoholic at a party. Romulan Ale.

Bacon

Blue Ribbon Bacon Festival Sells Out In Less Than Four Minutes. Of course it did! Um, shouldn't the Iowa Pork Queen be holding some bacon or have a tiara made of bacon?

Doggeh Video

h/t mpfs

Dessert

I think I'm going to try this one during the holidays. Oreo-Stuffed Chocolate Chip Cookies. I'll use dark chocolate though. It's healthier for you.

Decembeaver

I guess having pink colors all over NFL teams for a month wasn't enough. Now we get Decembeaver. Women Get A Shot At Not Shaving For Cancer. I assume this means legs too?

Vodka

Behold, the power of vodka. Vodka Saves Two Circus Elephants From Freezing To Death In Siberia. Uh uh. Sure it did. I'm surprised the trainer shared his vodka.

Doggeh Video

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Posted by: CDR M at 06:15 PM | Comments (814)
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1 Well this explains why mothers never heard of that teacher - Jacob Wycoff@4cast4you Talked to a friend who knew Nancy Lanza. She retired a few years ago to take care of Adam (who was autistic).

Posted by: Whatev at December 14, 2012 06:17 PM (2t6Gz)

2 Evening, all.

What a day. First the Connecticut tragedy, then a call from my daughter tonight. She works as a caregiver to seniors still living at home. After the first of the year, her employers are moving everyone to part-time hours. Thanks loads, ObamaCare.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2012 06:18 PM (5J54Q)

3 Pork Queen looks like she may have been porked a few times.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 06:18 PM (Zd/NW)

4 One week to go until radio stations play The End of the World As We Know It" to death

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 06:19 PM (wwsoB)

5 yeah so the pork queen - how exactly are they using "pork" noun or verb?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 06:20 PM (Z9EHQ)

6 4 One week to go until radio stations play The End of the World As We Know It" to death

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 10:19 PM (wwsoB)

======

Not my station...that song's not in our format. Howzabout "The End" by the Doors?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2012 06:21 PM (5J54Q)

7 Golden puppehs really love the snow.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 06:21 PM (Zd/NW)

8 I mentioned this on an earlier thread, but it really seems more ONT material -

Another Michelle Jenneke video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_9J2oJjjd4

I had to laugh at what she serves up at 0:54.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 14, 2012 06:22 PM (bzaZg)

9 So was se at school or home or what happened? If not at school, then why....

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 14, 2012 06:22 PM (MPjT8)

10 pork queen must have some fairly useful financial rewards because I cannot see how having pork queen on your resume is going to open a lot of doors, except to ridicule.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 06:23 PM (Z9EHQ)

11 Miss Bacon Festival ought to be... How do I say this? Less Ms. Coulter and more Ms. McCain.

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 14, 2012 06:23 PM (p5pG2)

12 pork queen must have some fairly useful financial rewards because I cannot see how having pork queen on your resume is going to open a lot of doors, except to ridicule. Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 10:23 PM (Z9EHQ) Have you seen the price of Bacon lately? She might be a Dupont before it's over with.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 14, 2012 06:24 PM (3Y7RV)

13 Maybe 'Pork' is a verb.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 14, 2012 06:25 PM (AC0lD)

14 I'm just saying, she looks like she only likes pork a little.

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 14, 2012 06:25 PM (p5pG2)

15 Wow, just saw a commercial with Jane Seymour in it. I would hit that like Jack Tatum on Darryl Stingley.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 06:25 PM (Zd/NW)

16 David Brin, a scifi author, came up with something called uplift. Uplift is using genetic manipulation and surgery to bring other species to our level of intelligence. As far as I know he had it used on dolphins, chimps, and gorillas. Dogs not so much.

Posted by: eman at December 14, 2012 06:25 PM (fGw3R)

17 And yankeefifth is faster...

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 14, 2012 06:25 PM (AC0lD)

18 Never really got the concept of 'near-beer'.

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 14, 2012 06:26 PM (BVkEs)

19 Killer Vince Neil Supports Victim Disarmament Of all the politicized anti-gun messages that came out in the wake of the mass-murder spree in Newton, CT, one of the most ironic was that of rock star Vince Neil. Most gun owners have never killed anyone, regardless of whether it was with a gun or not. Vince Neil, however, is a convicted killer. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=883

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 14, 2012 06:26 PM (sZTYJ)

20 I had to sit my kids down to tell them what happened. I don't want them to be blindsided when someone else mentions it tomorrow. Little girl couldn't get herself calmed down. She is with Mom tonight.

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 14, 2012 06:26 PM (p5pG2)

======Not my station...that song's not in our format. Howzabout "The End" by the Doors?

================

cap does that mean you're a DJ or does that mean your local station?

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 14, 2012 06:26 PM (MPjT8)

22 David Brin, a scifi author, came up with something called uplift. Uplift is using genetic manipulation and surgery to bring other species to our level of intelligence. As far as I know he had it used on dolphins, chimps, and gorillas. Dogs not so much. Posted by: eman at December 14, 2012 10:25 PM (fGw3R) how about liberals and obama voters?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 06:26 PM (Z9EHQ)

23 For an even more delicious/diabetic coma-inducing recipe, do the following: whip up chocolate chip cookie dough (use a bit less flour than normal), and spread it on the bottom of a 9x13 pan that's lined with wax paper. If you don't have wax paper, at least grease the pan. Add a layer of Oreos (double stuffed preferred). Make brownie batter from a box and pour on top. Bake.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 06:27 PM (Mt4hP)

24 Dogs don't need uplift. They are pretty awesome as they are.

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 14, 2012 06:28 PM (I2LwF)

25 For an even more delicious/diabetic coma-inducing recipe, do the following: whip up chocolate chip cookie dough (use a bit less flour than normal), and spread it on the bottom of a 9x13 pan that's lined with wax paper. If you don't have wax paper, at least grease the pan. Add a layer of Oreos (double stuffed preferred). Make brownie batter from a box and pour on top. Bake. Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 10:27 PM (Mt4hP) Oh good Christ. Why are Americans overweight again?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 14, 2012 06:28 PM (3Y7RV)

26 Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 10:27 PM (Mt4hP)

Ima gonna have to give that one a try too!

Posted by: CDR M at December 14, 2012 06:29 PM (dKV5k)

27 how about liberals and obama voters? Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 10:26 PM (Z9EHQ) Dude, it's scifi, not fantasy.

Posted by: eman at December 14, 2012 06:29 PM (fGw3R)

28 how about liberals and obama voters? Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 10:26 PM (Z9EHQ) I remember a phrase about a fish learning to ride a bicycle.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 14, 2012 06:29 PM (3Y7RV)

29 David Brin, a scifi author, came up with something called uplift. Uplift is using genetic manipulation and surgery to bring other species to our level of intelligence. As far as I know he had it used on dolphins, chimps, and gorillas. Dogs not so much. Posted by: eman at December 14, 2012 10:25 PM (fGw3R) I guess trying to "uplift" leftists was far too unrealistic of an idea to publish...

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 14, 2012 06:29 PM (sZTYJ)

30 Thanks for the h/t CDR.

I think we all need a little break for a moment today.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 06:30 PM (Mkhiu)

31 how about liberals and obama voters?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 10:26 PM (Z9EHQ)

He used downlift with them!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 14, 2012 06:30 PM (Cnqmv)

32 My favorite beer? Free beer.

Posted by: iNC Ref at December 14, 2012 06:30 PM (D4Vl1)

33 Dogs don't need uplift. They are pretty awesome as they are. Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 14, 2012 10:28 PM (I2LwF) I think Brin was saying that, too.

Posted by: eman at December 14, 2012 06:30 PM (fGw3R)

34 David Brin, a scifi author, came up with something called uplift. Uplift is using genetic manipulation and surgery to bring other species to our level of intelligence. As far as I know he had it used on dolphins, chimps, and gorillas. Dogs not so much. Posted by: eman at December 14, 2012 10:25 PM (fGw3R) and another thing. I fuckin hate monkeys, and pandas. nasty little bastards and lazy, respectively. whack em all and get it over with. every chance one of those primates gets they are yanking our testicles off and chewing on our faces. no good will come of keeping them around angry and jealous sitting in dank humid malaria infested jungles and swamps lusting after our hairless women and fancy toys. whack em now because they would do it to you iffn they had an opportunity. pandas well they are simply institutionalized biological incompetence, socialist of the bamboo woods.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 06:30 PM (Z9EHQ)

35 Close friends say the mother was retired, to take care of her mental case son. Probably one or two times, in a heated argument the mother threw that in his face "I gave up my class for you ya little prick". Hence when he shot her, he went to that class and shot them for spite. Thats just my take on it. Probably wrong.

Posted by: Whatev at December 14, 2012 06:30 PM (2t6Gz)

36 so true mpfs. I haven't talked to my kids about it yet.

Posted by: CDR M at December 14, 2012 06:31 PM (dKV5k)

37 Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 14, 2012 10:26 PM (p5pG2) My older daughter is 5, she overheard the wife and I talking on the phone and she started asking me questions. She's too smart for my own good. I tried to say that a bad man had down a very bad thing and hurt a bunch of people. That a bunch of those hurt were little kids. Long pause in the backseat, then, "Daddy, did he hurt them or did he kill them?" Ugh.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 14, 2012 06:31 PM (GEICT)

38 Dogs don't need uplift. They are pretty awesome as they are. Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 14, 2012 10:28 PM (I2LwF) The Japanese may disagree with you on that: http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=5740

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at December 14, 2012 06:31 PM (sZTYJ)

39 Well, since the real world is incomprehensible, I'm going to au SW:TOR some more.

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 14, 2012 06:31 PM (I2LwF)

40 I suggest we send Piers Morgan Douchebag back to UK instead of the Churchill bust.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 06:31 PM (Mkhiu)

41 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 14, 2012 06:31 PM (JMmQ9)

42 15 Wow, just saw a commercial with Jane Seymour in it. I would hit that like Jack Tatum on Darryl Stingley.
Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 10:25 PM

British women seem to keep their looks longer, and few of them use botox or plastic surgery. Must be the British weather

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 06:32 PM (wwsoB)

43 Make brownie batter from a box and pour on top. Bake. Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 10:27 PM (Mt4hP) you are joking. I am getting a sugar high just thinking about that.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 06:32 PM (xzxDr)

44 If we're going to elect a "pork Queen" I think we ought to put a tiara and ribbon on the Congress.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2012 06:32 PM (v8RoL)

45 if your kids are in elementary school do you really want to talk to them about the shooting? you are probably not going to impart any useful survival advice and they are not really going to get anything other than scared.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 06:33 PM (Z9EHQ)

46 I suggest we send Piers Morgan Douchebag back to UK instead of the Churchill bust. Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 10:31 PM (Mkhiu) That would both be a declaration of war and a commission of war crimes.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 14, 2012 06:33 PM (sZTYJ)

47 how about liberals and obama voters?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 10:26 PM (Z9EHQ)

He used down~~lift~~fall with them!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 14, 2012 06:33 PM (Cnqmv)

48 40 I suggest we send Piers Morgan Douchebag back to UK instead of the Churchill bust.
Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 10:31 PM

One reason I give Jeremy Clarkson a pass on his anti-American attitude is that he decked Piers Morgan in public. Twice

Third time's a charm Jezza, do it!

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 06:34 PM (wwsoB)

49 you are joking. I am getting a sugar high just thinking about that. Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 10:32 PM (xzxDr) I'm not. If you search for it on the internet you'll find recipes that include more, such as hot fudge topping.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 06:34 PM (Mt4hP)

50 From Adam Corolla's twitter feed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZR9wrwlpWw&sns=tw It's a video of a performance of a friend of his, Philip Wellford, who was a comedy juggler guy in the late 80s/early 90s. Sadly Wellford got early onset dementia in his early 50s and passed away the other day.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 14, 2012 06:35 PM (ZPrif)

51 CDR M,
Just hug your kids tight tonight and cherish the moment.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 06:35 PM (Mkhiu)

52 12 Posts of Christmas, 2012 - Day 2: Deck the Halls With Macro Follies! http://politicalhat.com/?p=822

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 14, 2012 06:36 PM (sZTYJ)

53 So what American icons should every man own at least once in his life? Off the top of my head:

A Jeep.
A Harley.
A Ka-Bar.
A 1911 or a S&W revolver.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 14, 2012 06:36 PM (celt+)

I cannot see how having pork queen on your resume is going to open a lot of doors, except to ridicule.

No bacon for you!

Posted by: fluffy at December 14, 2012 06:36 PM (O6q63)

55 Y5
How can you hate on the panda?!!!!?

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 06:36 PM (Mkhiu)

56 Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 14, 2012 10:36 PM (celt+)

A 4WD pickup

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 14, 2012 06:37 PM (Cnqmv)

57 I'm not telling.my kids. We homeschool anyway, so no one is going to say anything at the playground. I'm still just sick in my stomach.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2012 06:37 PM (wsGWu)

58 pandas well they are simply institutionalized biological incompetence, socialist of the bamboo woods. Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 10:30 PM (Z9EHQ) The National Zoo has to artificially inseminate its female panda every year because the male panda is an incompetent breeder. They had success a few years ago with Tai Shan; this year a cub was born but she died a week later due to lung problems.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 06:38 PM (Mt4hP)

59 kbdabear

Well, that's two reasons to like Jeremy Clarkson.....

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 06:38 PM (Mkhiu)

60 FUCK BARACK OBAMA

STUTTERING CLUSTERFUCK OF A MISERABLE FAKE TEARS FAILURE!

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at December 14, 2012 06:39 PM (ovpNn)

The National Zoo has to artificially inseminate its female panda every year because the male panda is an incompetent breeder.

Stand back. I'll handle this!

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper, furry at large at December 14, 2012 06:40 PM (O6q63)

62 Y5 How can you hate on the panda?!!!!? Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 10:36 PM (Mkhiu) I can hate on the panda like obama and his minions hate freedom - long and hard. no one is hunting pandas, nothing eats pandas, they are just fat effin welfare queens - and kings - of the animal world. efin pandas are barely able to reproduce on their own - fifty fifty they forget the new panda or roll over on it and crush em. free ling ling and let her fend for herself. if some 800 pound black and white bear is unable to make a go on itw own by stalking bamboo boo freakin hoo. I need a new rug anyway and this zebra pattern is getting to me .

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 06:40 PM (Z9EHQ)

63 Â this year a cub was born but she died a week later due to lung problems. The story of.the mama panda crying over her baby was heart breaking.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2012 06:40 PM (wsGWu)

64 pandas well they are simply institutionalized biological incompetence, socialist of the bamboo woods. Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 10:30 PM (Z9EHQ) I always think about this. Pandas are only alive now because they happen to be cute to the only species on the planet that has the power to help them reproduce and give them a protected living space. I mean, they totally won the Darwin lottery. B/c I mean really, how much camouflage does that black and white coloring really give them in the bamboo forests of China?

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 06:40 PM (xzxDr)

65 I feel so broken-hearted for all those families whose lives were permanently destroyed today. I can't make any sense of it and God has no answers. WTF is going on in this world?

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2012 06:41 PM (kpCLl)

66 I'm not telling.my kids. We homeschool anyway, so no one is going to say anything at the playground. I'm still just sick in my stomach. Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2012 10:37 PM (wsGWu) ditto.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 06:41 PM (xzxDr)

67 Y5

I love ya but did you have issues with a panda when you were a child?

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 06:42 PM (Mkhiu)

68 Maybe 'Pork' is a verb.

Ah. Where do you apply?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 14, 2012 06:42 PM (8Bfzy)

69 Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 10:38 PM (Mt4hP) yes! it is the logical end of welfare - too lazy to eff. if we can only hold on a few more years welfare is going to solve itself!

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 06:42 PM (Z9EHQ)

70 How did that quote from Fight Club go? "I would put a bullet between the eyes of every Panda that wouldn't screw to save its species"

Posted by: model_1066 at December 14, 2012 06:42 PM (E23Tl)

71 #62-That was really funny; Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2012 06:43 PM (v8RoL)

72 Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 10:40 PM (Z9EHQ)

C'mon, man . . . that was ugly.

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2012 06:43 PM (kpCLl)

73 Trailer catches fire and the trainer just happens to find ten liters of vodka for the elephants. I wonder, if there had been eleven liters, would there have been no fire?

Posted by: t-bird at December 14, 2012 06:43 PM (FcR7P)

74 What you have to realize about panda's is ... all the smart ones died off. There's only a thousand or so left on the planet. Pretty much the end of the world came to the panda population and, for whatever reason, only the most retarded ones survived. Any animal to stupid to breed doesn't deserve to. Imagine if 99.99% of the human population dies off and all is left is Obamaphone Lady and AmberLamps Dude and aliens are trying to get them to breed. That's pretty much the situation we are in with the pandas. We are down to the dumbest, most inbred, retarded, fucked-up pandas left to work with.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 14, 2012 06:43 PM (ZPrif)

75 In case you need to get somewhere when the apocalypse hits, survival expert Rudy Reyes has instructions on how to make your own bio fuel;

Emergency travel - how to make field expidate bio diesel fuel - so your car will run 50 - 100 - 200 miles - it will clog engine in time but you travel and you can get another car that is stranded and make more fuel -
find grease trap - fast food resturant etc.
use grease as is but will clog engine faster and when cold
much better
cook down grease after skimimg off solids - heat to thin - with covert fire if need be
need two chemicals methonel and lye
gas line anti- freeze store product is methonel
drain cleaner is lye
mix 5 parts cooking oil grease and 1 part chemicals
1 part which is gas anti freeze with 1/2 tablespoon of drain cleaner
put both chemicals in can and shake vigously a few minutes - carefull becomes hot
pour chemicals in cooking oil grease - filter with cloth - pour in gas tank

" Apocalypse Man" history channel

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 06:43 PM (wwsoB)

76 Of course, in my view, the best beer is the cold one that's in your hand. The best beer is Free Beer. At least it is when you're in college. One thing about that Michelle Jenneke vid. The original vid that made her famous kind of hinted at it but it's confirmed with this one. She's a BIG girl. Smokin' hawt amazon. And. I. Don't. Care. *drool* 'sup jackwagons

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 14, 2012 06:44 PM (Rhie+)

77 pandas well they are simply institutionalized biological incompetence, socialist of the bamboo woods. Posted by: yankeefifth

Thank heavan. I thought I was the only one who wondered, "Save the Pandas! Why?" Probably most of the species we are sweating to save have had a 'This is to notify you that you have failed the big kahuna of survival exams' stamped on them by Mother Nature a couple hundred years ago. No good swimming against that tide.

Posted by: Pentangle at December 14, 2012 06:44 PM (SHpwo)

78 A.R.15.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 14, 2012 06:44 PM (MPjT8)

79 I always think about this. Pandas are only alive now because they happen to be cute to the only species on the planet that has the power to help them reproduce and give them a protected living space. I mean, they totally won the Darwin lottery. B/c I mean really, how much camouflage does that black and white coloring really give them in the bamboo forests of China? Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 10:40 PM (xzxDr) indeed, and if you need protection anywhere it is in china - savages would slice and dice those guys into bear bits and sell them as "male enhacement supplements."

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 06:44 PM (Z9EHQ)

80 Yeah, about that Panda thing. Look, I was drunk. Cut me some slack, okay?

Posted by: Natural Selection at December 14, 2012 06:45 PM (fGw3R)

81 yes! it is the logical end of welfare - too lazy to eff. if we can only hold on a few more years welfare is going to solve itself! Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 10:42 PM (Z9EHQ) In this case, Mr. Panda (Tian Tian) literally has no clue about how his plumbing works with her plumbing. He's literally inept.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 06:45 PM (Mt4hP)

82 I enjoyed a warm snifter of Sam Adams Triple Bock a few years ago during a drunken New Year's Eve dinner on top of the CN Tower in Toronto. I think I threw up, ended up at a strip club and then threw up again.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at December 14, 2012 06:45 PM (ZNaPS)

83 Evenin all What a sad day. I feel for those families who lost a child. I cannot begin to imagine what they are going through. Prayer for them. Although not comparable, we have had a crappy couple of days. Daughter was back in hospital for surgery complications ( better now, but very scary) and son has shingles on his spinal cord. He is miserable. Someone say something funny, because I could really use a laugh.

Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2012 06:45 PM (wi/sM)

84 ...shingles on his spinal cord. He is miserable. Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2012 10:45 PM (wi/sM) How does that happen??????

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 06:46 PM (Mt4hP)

85 if your kids are in elementary school do you really want to talk to them about the shooting? What gives you the right to simply ignore news?

Posted by: The MFM at December 14, 2012 06:47 PM (FcR7P)

86 C'mon, man . . . that was ugly. Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2012 10:43 PM (kpCLl) PEACHES! really, I mean pandas, did you think I was talking about something else?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 06:47 PM (Z9EHQ)

87 My son heard at karate tonight. We had to talk about it before they got blindsided. Especially Julie. She's very sensitive and empathetic.

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 14, 2012 06:47 PM (I2LwF)

88 One thing about that Michelle Jenneke vid. The original vid that made her famous kind of hinted at it but it's confirmed with this one. She's a BIG girl. Smokin' hawt amazon. Those legs probably shatter spines. And it's totally worth it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 14, 2012 06:48 PM (GEICT)

89 Emergency travel - how to make field expidate bio diesel fuel - so your car will run 50 - 100 - 200 miles Or you could steal a bicycle.

Posted by: t-bird at December 14, 2012 06:49 PM (FcR7P)

90 I love ya but did you have issues with a panda when you were a child? Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 10:42 PM (Mkhiu) listen, I got lost at the zoo - nevermind, I co not want to tlak about it, eitherway eff the pandas, they deserve as much.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 06:49 PM (Z9EHQ)

91 They try to get the pandas in the mood for sexy-time -- hosting mixers, showing them panda porn -- but the pandas are always, "Meh, I'd rather just spend my entire life continuously eating bamboo. I literally never get bored of this shit."

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 14, 2012 06:49 PM (ZPrif)

92 ...shingles on his spinal cord. He is miserable. Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2012 10:45 PM (wi/sM) How does that happen?????? Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 10:46 PM (Mt4hP) Hell if I know.

Posted by: Joe Biden, Roofing Contractor at December 14, 2012 06:49 PM (Rhie+)

93 Here's a laugh for you Moki

Joe Pesci Christmas song "If It Doesn't Snow On Christmas"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hawOAtZcW9o

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 06:50 PM (wwsoB)

94 Although not comparable, we have had a crappy couple of days. Daughter was back in hospital for surgery complications ( better now, but very scary) and son has shingles on his spinal cord. He is miserable. Someone say something funny, because I could really use a laugh.

Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2012 10:45 PM (wi/sM)

Hey, babygirl. I got nuthin', too sad a day. But, man, your poor son, shingles is fucked up. When I had it, I just had 3 little itchy red spots on my upper arm. When my mom had it, it was hell on earth. Isn't it really some other family's turn here at some point? Although, you think that and then you think about those angels in Connecticut and what their families have no hope of ever moving past. Not in a good mood here. Got no funny and wouldn't roll it out today even if I did. Will you settle for a big hug instead? {{{{{{moki}}}}}}

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2012 06:50 PM (kpCLl)

95 I should at least get some snaps for the cockroach and the scorpion.

Posted by: Natural Selection at December 14, 2012 06:50 PM (fGw3R)

96 The brother who was not the killer. The father who was not murdered. The MSM (FOX included) has some explaining to do.

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 14, 2012 06:50 PM (BVkEs)

think I threw up, ended up at a strip club and then threw up again.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at December 14, 2012 10:45 PM (ZNaP

Piker. I did all that before dinner tonight.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 14, 2012 06:50 PM (MPjT8)

98 Good evening. Prayers for the families in Connecticut. Just horrible.

Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 06:50 PM (LUnTP)

Dammit Vince! First Tommy, now you.

Just sing.

Posted by: Snotnosed Nuclear Sonic Punk at December 14, 2012 06:51 PM (Y+woW)

100 I hope those CT families find peace someday.

Posted by: eman at December 14, 2012 06:52 PM (fGw3R)

101 87 My son heard at karate tonight. We had to talk about it before they got blindsided. Especially Julie. She's very sensitive and empathetic. Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 14, 2012 10:47 PM (I2LwF) Yeah, like I said, mine heard the wife and I on the phone. Was trying to be circumspect but the wife has a friend who's nephew is a kindergartener at the school. (he's fine) It's kind of hard to hide that kind of horror in your voice. Smart little booger started asking questions. I won't lie about something like that. I'll censor, but I won't hide the truth from her if she's actively seeking it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 14, 2012 06:52 PM (GEICT)

102 Eric w, and y5, thank you. I posted before I read, and your (respective) diatribes on pandas and drinking made me giggle. I really needed that!!

Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2012 06:52 PM (wi/sM)

103 really, I mean pandas, did you think I was talking about something else?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 10:47 PM (Z9EHQ)

I'm a bit of a pandaholic. Have watched several of them from birth to independence. I love those little bastids. Granted, they aren't methlab, but to some of us they are quite lovable.

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2012 06:52 PM (kpCLl)

104 all that is going to happen is they will outlaw guns and - mark my words - some deranged liberal will show up at work with a car full of chimpanzees and rabid cracked up pandas and it will be the same story only worse.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 06:52 PM (Z9EHQ)

105 96 The brother who was not the killer. The father who was not murdered. The MSM (FOX included) has some explaining to do. Posted by: CraigPoe at December 14, 2012 10:50 PM (BVkEs) And now they're dealing with the loss of a wife/mom and son/brother, the latter who will be known forever as one of America's most notorious killers. I cannot imagine what they're going through.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 06:52 PM (Mt4hP)

106 I think I threw up, ended up at a strip club and then threw up again.
That was you, Eric W?
Where's my box of Tic-Tacs?

Posted by: andycanuck at December 14, 2012 06:53 PM (jPVBi)

107 Moki: Obama said that he's "more like a moderate Republican." Damn. that's not funny: that pretty close.

Posted by: CMU VET at December 14, 2012 06:53 PM (dPSpR)

108 Rush and Heart inducted into Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame. Excellent...I guess? I mean if you think rock n roll needs a fucking hall of fame.

Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 06:53 PM (LUnTP)

109 Moki - prayers for you and your family. Something funny: So Joe Biden, Barack Obama, and Queen Elizabeth I walk into a bar. QEI has a few and says in a rather loud voice, " I was known as the Virgin Queen." BO has a few and says in a rather loud voice, "I lot my virginity to my granddad's friend." JB has a few and says in a rather loud voice, " I got 3 words for ye'! I'm still a virgin!"

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 06:53 PM (gh+mp)

110 I'm a bit of a pandaholic. Have watched several of them from birth to independence. I love those little bastids. Granted, they aren't methlab, but to some of us they are quite lovable. Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2012 10:52 PM (kpCLl) apologies. you can forgive me for the mistake, I only thought you were soft on felines.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 06:54 PM (Z9EHQ)

111 Oh my Gawd.

Dr, Doom (Roubini) is now saying that housing has bottomed and the US economy will grow nicely for a few years.

(Business Insider)

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at December 14, 2012 06:54 PM (ywFM/)

112 Going to YouTube, listening to old 80s songs, pretending I'm not into this fucked up century. Hell maybe the Mayans were right.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 14, 2012 06:54 PM (MPjT8)

113 Rush and Heart inducted into Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame. Excellent...I guess? I mean if you think rock n roll needs a fucking hall of fame. Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 10:53 PM (LUnTP) rush and heart? that is like Lincoln and obama, respectively.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 06:55 PM (Z9EHQ)

114 This thread is the perfect cheerer upper.

Posted by: Book at December 14, 2012 06:55 PM (rm8za)

115 Evening, 'rons. I've got a 1911, a 4WD truck, and an AR, but there are other things on the list men should own that I'd like to mention - a socket set, a bench vise, and other basic tools, along with the knowledge to use them.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 06:55 PM (lJJMb)

116 rush and heart? that is like Lincoln and obama, respectively. Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 10:55 PM (Z9EHQ) Wha?!?! No way! Heart is good! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4nWy8pmIM4

Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 06:56 PM (LUnTP)

117
Obama the sociopath had plenty of time for his handlers to write his response to the tragedy, and he is to be commended for the tearing routine. It was fake, but convincing to the uninformed liberal plantation and buttboy ball scrubbers.

Posted by: Dr Fish, TDY to SAT for ill mom at December 14, 2012 06:56 PM (ndqJC)

118 fuck, of all the things that could go wrong my panda rage has upset Peaches.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 06:56 PM (Z9EHQ)

119 96 The brother who was not the killer. The father who was not murdered. The MSM (FOX included) has some explaining to do.
Posted by: CraigPoe at December 14, 2012 10:50 PM

Today was not the MSM's Finest Hour, nor Drudge's

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 06:57 PM (wwsoB)

120 What's black and white and black and white and black and white and black and white?
WTF is a panda going rolling down a hill???!!!

Posted by: andycanuck at December 14, 2012 06:57 PM (jPVBi)

121 Excellent...I guess? I mean if you think rock n roll needs a fucking hall of fame.
Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 10:53 PM (LUnTP)

Uh, it's in Cleveland . . . need I say more?

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2012 06:57 PM (kpCLl)

122 Alright Horde, gun question. Opinions. Mossberg 535 Tactical http://tinyurl.com/997vzya Or Mossberg 500 Tactical Tri Rail http://tinyurl.com/cqgpajn

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 14, 2012 06:58 PM (GEICT)

123 From the shit got real file.. Here's how Israelis protect their priceless assets http://tinyurl.com/bmqsqrn

Posted by: Whatev at December 14, 2012 06:58 PM (2t6Gz)

124 If anyone wants to.add on another prayer, I've got a request. A friend's 6 week old daughter is very, very sick and no one knows why. She was born unable to move becsur of poor muscle tone, but all the genetics tests came back normal. She went back in the hospital a few days ago for surgery for her "floppy" trachea. Things have taken a bad turn. She's on a ventilator now, and they're pretty sure she'll need a tracheostomy. They also found two heart defects. Her mama is just about at the end of her rope, and they have two older girls. Definitely could use the prayers.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2012 06:58 PM (wsGWu)

125 Pandas are honest to gosh BEARS who's ancestors were to lazy to keep eating meat and switched to bamboo. Evolutionary Dead End.

Posted by: Tmitsss at December 14, 2012 06:58 PM (WRZ7l)

126 Excellent...I guess? I mean if you think rock n roll needs a fucking hall of fame. QE I would never be inducted into the fucking hall of fame but Magic - I've had over 10 000 women - Johnson might...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 06:58 PM (gh+mp)

127 fuck, of all the things that could go wrong my panda rage has upset Peaches. Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 10:56 PM (Z9EHQ) Pandas like to mess with your mind. Did you know they are actually all white? The black is paint.

Posted by: eman at December 14, 2012 06:58 PM (fGw3R)

128 Wha?!?! No way! Heart is good! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4nWy8pmIM4 Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 10:56 PM (LUnTP) meh ok. ever since they had a hissy fit over Palin using their baracuda song I have exiled em to my liberal/shit lists.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 06:58 PM (Z9EHQ)

129 Are you sure that wasn't O'Dumbass discussing the NHL lockout?

Posted by: andycanuck at December 14, 2012 06:59 PM (jPVBi)

130 Nil Butron is a pud.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 14, 2012 06:59 PM (K3B0+)

131 We are down to the dumbest, most inbred, retarded, fucked-up pandas left to work with. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 14, 2012 _ _ _ _ _ __ __ _ _ Sounds a lot like what's going on with the DNC....and the leaders in both parties in Congress as well for that matter.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at December 14, 2012 06:59 PM (PALjS)

132 They try to get the pandas in the mood for sexy-time -- hosting mixers, showing them panda porn -- but the pandas are always, "Meh, I'd rather just spend my entire life continuously eating bamboo. I literally never get bored of this shit." Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 14, 2012 10:49 PM (ZPrif) Pubic Service Announcement: Do NOT. I say again, DO NOT Bing "panda porn".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 14, 2012 06:59 PM (Rhie+)

133 Today was not the MSM's Finest Hour, nor Drudge's

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 10:57 PM (wwsoB)

When exactly WAS their finest hour again? Never in history has there been an independent and unbiased media - the whole idea is something they made up and propagate in order to create their false station of superior otherness.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 07:00 PM (lJJMb)

134 QE I would never be inducted into the fucking hall of fame but Magic - I've had over 10 000 women - Johnson might... Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 10:58 PM (gh+mp) You're thinking of Wilt Chamberlain. Oh, and...*NAB*

Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 07:00 PM (LUnTP)

135 Baby pandas for Peaches: http://tinyurl.com/8bysmfg

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 07:00 PM (Mt4hP)

136 *Waves at Peaches*

Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 07:00 PM (LUnTP)

137 What Roubini actually said:

"My best scenario for the U.S. is 1.7% growth for next year"

Keep fucking that chicken, Clarence.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 14, 2012 07:01 PM (bzaZg)

138 Moki, So sorry that you and your family are having such problems; I will pray for all of you. I don't think have anything funny to say but here's a cute cartoon: http://www.reverendfun.com/?date=20121214

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2012 07:01 PM (v8RoL)

139 Definitely could use the prayers.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2012 10:58 PM (wsGWu)

You got 'em, Lauren. The horde prays for keeps. God bless that little baby. And her parents.

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2012 07:01 PM (kpCLl)

140 meh ok. ever since they had a hissy fit over Palin using their baracuda song I have exiled em to my liberal/shit lists. Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 10:58 PM (Z9EHQ) Oh yeah,they're libtards but I don't hold that against them.

Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 07:01 PM (LUnTP)

141 Middle-aged and elderly people who needed to use both hands and knees to get up and down were almost seven times more likely to die within six years, compared to those who could spring up and down without support, Brazilian researchers reported Thursday in the European Journal of Preventive Cardiology.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 14, 2012 07:02 PM (e8kgV)

142 Thank you, peaches. My heart is breaking for her.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2012 07:02 PM (wsGWu)

143 I do not want anyone to think I am anti ursine I love bears. Indeed, given my preternatural love of cold and snow I am pretty sure one of my relatives in the not too distant past had an encounter with zeus in the form of a polar bear which resulted in some sort of freaky half-human half-bear that escaped from an ice maze slightly north of the north pole. pandas, well nevermind.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:02 PM (Z9EHQ)

144 Peaches!!!!!! Smooches to you sugar!!!! And to Biden sock and kdbabear, thanks I really laughed!! I lurk...we think it was a reaction to an anti seizure medication. The doc said that the virus had erupted on his spinal cord, since he was having the most pain in his neck and back, with blisters on his legs and arms. He had very mild chicken pox as a kid, so maybe shingles is worse when that happens. I had shingles in my eye when I was 19, and wanted to die from that, so I can't begin to imagine that pain on my entire back and peripheral limbs. Bless him

Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2012 07:03 PM (wi/sM)

145 When exactly WAS their finest hour again? Never in history has there been an independent and unbiased media - the whole idea is something they made up and propagate in order to create their false station of superior otherness.
***
And interestingly, the electorate was MUCH better educated about the issues of the day when there were many competing media organs then today.

Competition trumps collective action what a shock...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2012 07:03 PM (AUeaU)

146 *POKES* Robert ... ... makes sense. happy friday : -(

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 07:03 PM (gh+mp)

147 Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2012 10:58 PM (wsGWu) Hoping for the best.

Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 07:03 PM (LUnTP)

148 eman,

Do you mean pandas use Hair In A Can spray like Larry King?

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 07:04 PM (Mkhiu)

149 happy friday : -( Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 11:03 PM (gh+mp) Why the sad face, Adriane? Home Depot run out of Behr Paint?

Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 07:04 PM (LUnTP)

150 Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 14, 2012 10:58 PM (GEICT)

BCochran, the pump every time unless you're shooting for sport and require major speed. Even a beginning level shooter can rack a pump nearly as fast as a semi cycles, so there's no advantage there for most uses (by which I mean they'll have the forearm forward and another round chambered before they reacquire a sight picture). Since a defensive weapon should have as few moving parts as possible, and there's not much out there as reliable as a pump shotgun with a proven design, I say go with the pump. I'm not sure what the need is for all the rails and crap on it, but that's a discussion of esthetics over function.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 07:04 PM (lJJMb)

151

Rush and Heart inducted into Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame.

Excellent...I guess? I mean if you think rock n roll needs a fucking hall of fame.
Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 10:53 PM (LUnTP)

Steps in the right direction. Still no Deep Purple, Kiss, Joan Jett, Priest, Maiden...

But hey! At least Donna Summer's in.

Posted by: Snotnosed Nuclear Sonic Punk at December 14, 2012 07:04 PM (Y+woW)

152 I like pandas. They are cute as hell. I just wish they re-learn how to screw on their own without a team of human fluffers on standby 24/7. Meanwhile we have to hunt feral pigs by helicopter cause the ugly bastards breed so damn quickly. Cute pandas can't breed without some eco-chick holding their dicks. Yet butt-ugly feral pigs manage to breed while being chased by Ted Nugent in an attack helicopter. Evolution in action.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 14, 2012 07:05 PM (ZPrif)

153 This study shows no up or down trend in global water vapor, a finding of major significance that differs with studies cited in AR5. Climate modelers assume that water vapor, the principle greenhouse gas, will increase with carbon dioxide, but the NVAP-M study shows this has not occurred. Carbon dioxide has continued to increase, but global water vapor has not.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 14, 2012 07:05 PM (e8kgV)

154 Lauren

Count me in.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 07:05 PM (Mkhiu)

155 They try to get the pandas in the mood for sexy-time -- hosting mixers, showing them panda porn -- but the pandas are always, "Meh, I'd rather just spend my entire life continuously eating bamboo. I literally never get bored of this shit." Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 14, 2012 10:49 PM (ZPrif) Pubic Service Announcement: Do NOT. I say again, DO NOT Bing "panda porn". Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 14, 2012 10:59 PM (Rhie+) see it is the obamaphones of sex - too lazy to get it up yourself you can dial up your obama wood sebelius will send someone over to your house to help you get busy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:05 PM (Z9EHQ)

156 Clarence? Why, I don't know any such fellow.

He seems nice enough though.

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at December 14, 2012 07:05 PM (ywFM/)

157 Home Depot run out of Behr Paint? You think ... you really, really think that this would bring only a sad face. Just this and nothing more?

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 07:05 PM (gh+mp)

158 I admit it.

I have on occasion been hypnotized by the Panda Cam at the SD Zoo.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 07:06 PM (Mkhiu)

159 Posted by: Whatev at December 14, 2012 10:58 PM (2t6Gz)

My mother is Israeli, so that makes me one also (sort of).

And that photo makes me very proud.

Thanks.

Posted by: Walter Duranty at December 14, 2012 07:06 PM (GsoHv)

160 Moki, did they give him Valtrex? Because that's the protocol. And, as far as I know, it works.

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2012 07:07 PM (kpCLl)

161 Of foul sock!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2012 07:07 PM (GsoHv)

162 Still no Deep Purple, Kiss, Joan Jett, Priest, Maiden... Posted by: Sno NO FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *Punches a panda in anger*

Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 07:07 PM (LUnTP)

163 141 Middle-aged and elderly people who needed to use both hands and knees to get up and down were almost seven times more likely to die within six years, compared to those who could spring up and down without support, Brazilian researchers reported Thursday in the European Journal of Preventive Cardiology.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 14, 2012 11:02 PM (e8kgV)

Shocked...you mean old people who can still move around like younger people live longer than old people who move like *Old People*?

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 07:07 PM (lJJMb)

164 Note to Dildo:

Do not comment while hammered.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2012 07:07 PM (GsoHv)

165 And interestingly, the electorate was MUCH better educated about the issues of the day when there were many competing media organs then today.

Competition trumps collective action what a shock...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2012 11:03 PM

Every tv reporter and print journalist will tell you that they work so hard to get the story right, but the pressure of competition and headlines makes them rush, is stressful, and they make mistakes

Just like most of us who work in the real world, but they wouldn't know that.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 07:08 PM (wwsoB)

166 Do not comment while hammered. Commenting while screwed or pliered is OK thought ...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 07:08 PM (gh+mp)

167 164 Note to Dildo: Do not comment while hammered. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2012 11:07 PM (GsoHv) Note #2: Don't look back the next day to see what you wrote while hammered.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 07:08 PM (Mt4hP)

168 121 Excellent...I guess? I mean if you think rock n roll needs a fucking hall of fame.

Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 10:53 PM (LUnTP)

Uh, it's in Cleveland . . . need I say more?

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2012 10:57 PM (kpCLl)

And pretty much all it is is money moaking for the artists. The ones that get inducted always seem to have an album coming out.

Posted by: buzzion at December 14, 2012 07:09 PM (GULKT)

169 A 14 sec. < V8
A > 40mph boat

grill, baseball glove

Posted by: DaveA at December 14, 2012 07:09 PM (Xefrb)

170 Cute pandas can't breed without some eco-chick holding their dicks. Yet butt-ugly feral pigs manage to breed while being chased by Ted Nugent in an attack helicopter. Evolution in action. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 14, 2012 11:05 PM (ZPrif) feral pigs have embraced lowered expectations - they are effin ugly, they know it , they know all of em are just lucky to be gettin any so quit your whining and simply get to it yall.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:09 PM (Z9EHQ)

171 You think ... you really, really think that this would bring only a sad face. Just this and nothing more? Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 11:05 PM (gh+mp) *Pats your wittle head* Cheer up, Adriane! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW0Vuh3PKUU

Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 07:09 PM (LUnTP)

172 Steps in the right direction. Still no Deep Purple, Kiss, Joan Jett, Priest, Maiden...

But hey! At least Donna Summer's in.

Posted by: Snotnosed Nuclear Sonic Punk at December 14, 2012 11:04 PM (Y+woW)

If the RnR HoF wants to further slide into irrelevancy, all they have to do is induct Joan Jett. Her music was drivel.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 07:09 PM (lJJMb)

173 I can tell this ONT will degenerate into panda bashing this evening.

You big....meanies!!!!

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 07:09 PM (Mkhiu)

174 122 Posted by: BCochran1981 Mossberg 500 The 500 has the most options available, and when outfitted with wood furniture, attracts less attention than most other firearms, while still being as rugged and reliable as any. Swapping wood for overmolded rubber is easy.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 14, 2012 07:09 PM (6GY0z)

175 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2012 11:07 PM (GsoHv) You're hammering a dildo? Yikes.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 14, 2012 07:10 PM (GEICT)

176 Shocked...you mean old people who can still move around like younger people live longer than old people who move like *Old People*?
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 11:07 PM

Yeah no kidding, and the researchers went to school for that shit.

Posted by: Berserker at December 14, 2012 07:10 PM (FMbng)

177 Middle-aged and elderly people who needed to use both hands and knees to get up and down were almost seven times more likely to die within six years, compared to those who could spring up and down without support, Brazilian researchers reported Thursday in the European Journal of Preventive Cardiology. Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 14, 2012 11:02 PM (e8kgV) even more impressive if you are brazillian and able to do so with all the wagon you are draggin.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:10 PM (Z9EHQ)

178 Lauren, thanks, I find that praying for others helps me get over whatever is weighing me down. Your friend and her baby are on the list. And peaches is right, this is a mighty praying group. They've worked some miracles through their intercession.

Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2012 07:10 PM (wi/sM)

179

162 NO FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*Punches a panda in anger*

Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 11:07 PM (LUnTP)

Hall of SHAME, indeed.

Posted by: Snotnosed Nuclear Sonic Punk at December 14, 2012 07:10 PM (Y+woW)

180 Next thing you know Rolling Stone will put Rush on the cover.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 14, 2012 07:10 PM (bzaZg)

181 Any good Panda recipes?

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 14, 2012 07:11 PM (BVkEs)

182 Note to Dildo:

Do not comment while hammered.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2012 11:07 PM (GsoHv)

Don't be ridiculous, CBD!!! Where would the threadcount be if the horde had that kind of stupid rule? I go with, don't puke on the keyboard, everything else is good.

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2012 07:11 PM (kpCLl)

183 meh ok. ever since they had a hissy fit over Palin using their baracuda song I have exiled em to my liberal/shit lists. Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 10:58 PM (Z9EHQ) Oh yeah,they're libtards but I don't hold that against them. Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 11:01 PM (LUnTP) I can *kind* of respect Chrissy Hynde and the thing with Rushbo using her music in his radio show. While her publishing company got all butthurt without her knowledge, she was smart enough to be cool with it and not alienate a big part of her potential audience (and donate the royalties to her preferred charities) even though she's totally opposed to Rush's politics. The fact is, rock songs are only partly about what the "artist" intended them to be. The song's true meaning is always defined by the AUDIENCE. I think that's one of the things that makes rock an enduring part of the culture.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 14, 2012 07:12 PM (Rhie+)

184 Any good Panda recipes? Posted by: CraigPoe at December 14, 2012 11:11 PM (BVkEs) they are all good man, all of em.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:12 PM (Z9EHQ)

185 If you like pandas, this is a must see: http://tinyurl.com/65dwsay

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at December 14, 2012 07:12 PM (7Cw6+)

186 I see your sunlight and raise you ... breakfast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCwtIAFdf9U

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 07:13 PM (gh+mp)

187 My mother who often had a gift for mishearing lyrics of songs told me years ago that Huey Lewis was singing, "The heart of rock and roll's in Cleveland."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2012 07:13 PM (v8RoL)

188 I can't catch up on all the comments if y'all keep posting....stop.

kthx.....

Posted by: Tami at December 14, 2012 07:13 PM (X6akg)

189 We must ban all guns so they won't be available for killers again!

We must legalize drugs so that they can be regulated and people won't buy them from gangs and organized crime syndicates

Posted by: Lefty pounding a square peg into a round hole at December 14, 2012 07:13 PM (wwsoB)

190

Who cares about the *dog* in the video?! That's a spinning wheel! And looks like all sorts of wonderful dyed wool in the background. Geez, you lot have to learn to get your priorities straight!

Oh...it's just me that cares about those...well, carry on then. *slinks away in shame*

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at December 14, 2012 07:13 PM (wbeNt)

191 The panda I saw at Zoo Atlanta was pretty laid back, lounging on a branch munching bamboo, but he was quite daggy, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 14, 2012 07:14 PM (K3B0+)

192 I got 99 prolems and Obama is one.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 14, 2012 07:14 PM (MPjT8)

193 North Dakota State beats Georgia Southern in an FCS semifinal. Tonight I've learned that there is a football penalty called, "Illegal touching".

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 07:14 PM (Mt4hP)

194 25 For an even more delicious/diabetic coma-inducing recipe, do the following: whip up chocolate chip cookie dough (use a bit less flour than normal), and spread it on the bottom of a 9x13 pan that's lined with wax paper. If you don't have wax paper, at least grease the pan. Add a layer of Oreos (double stuffed preferred). Make brownie batter from a box and pour on top. Bake. Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 10:27 PM (Mt4hP) Oh good Christ. Why are Americans overweight again? Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 14, 2012 10:28 PM (3Y7RV) ******** Y'ain't done until you fry it...

Posted by: Boomer Redneque knows Mohammad was a goat-fucking kiddie-raper at December 14, 2012 07:15 PM (eQnzo)

195 Panda Express sux. IMHO Not like the SCOAMTT sux. That's a fact.

Posted by: Justamom at December 14, 2012 07:15 PM (Sptt8)

196 Any good Panda recipes? Posted by: CraigPoe at December 14, 2012 11:11 PM (BVkEs) Moo Goo Gai Panda

Posted by: 政治帽子 at December 14, 2012 07:15 PM (sZTYJ)

197 Well, as long as people are praying, I would be grateful if people would pray for the small church I serve. We are having a lot of conflict.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2012 07:15 PM (v8RoL)

198 If you like pandas, this is a must see: http://tinyurl.com/65dwsay Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at December 14, 2012 11:12 PM (7Cw6+) funny

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:15 PM (Z9EHQ)

199 I will be praying for your family as well, Moki.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2012 07:15 PM (wsGWu)

200 Robert - one for you: http://tinyurl.com/clduxtq

The video is bad and the audio isn't much better, but any metalhead worth their salt knows this part by heart anyways. \m/

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 07:16 PM (lJJMb)

201 187 My mother who often had a gift for mishearing lyrics of songs told me years ago that Huey Lewis was singing, "The heart of rock and roll's in Cleveland." Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2012 11:13 _ _ _ _ _ And I used to think, In smokin' in the boys room, they said, "smokin' in the lounge is cool"

Posted by: John Stark Dark at December 14, 2012 07:16 PM (PALjS)

202 > the beer Not yet, but I get to. Friend of mine scored a "brick" (what they call a six-pack) and gave me one today as a Chanukah present. Texted me that it's "sweet and peppery, bitter and smooth." Can't. Wait.

Posted by: speedster1 at December 14, 2012 07:16 PM (yeM7r)

203 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame voters are probably the same people who vote on Grammy Awards

Britney Spears has several Grammys yet Brian Wilson in 50 years has only one, and for a minor category

They're kind of like the Nobels

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 07:17 PM (wwsoB)

204 Cute pandas can't breed without some eco-chick holding their dicks. Yet butt-ugly feral pigs manage to breed while being chased by Ted Nugent in an attack helicopter. Evolution in action. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 14, 2012 11:05 PM (ZPrif) Proof that Bacon (PBUH) is all-powerful.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 14, 2012 07:17 PM (Rhie+)

205 MMmmmmmmkay, I'm off to get ready for woik. Good night, Adriane! Good night, ONT!

Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2012 07:17 PM (LUnTP)

206 192 I got 99 prolems and Obama is one.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 14, 2012 11:14 PM (MPjT

Oh come on.

He certainly qualifies as being more than just one problem. He's at minimum 7.

Posted by: buzzion at December 14, 2012 07:17 PM (GULKT)

207 197 Well, as long as people are praying, I would be grateful if people would pray for the small church I serve. We are having a lot of conflict. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2012 11:15 PM (v8RoL) Having been through that, prayers your way (along with prayers for Lauren's friend's baby and the Moki family).

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 07:17 PM (Mt4hP)

208 Lauren, Moki

Prayers for the kids. Hope that God sends a miracle

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 07:17 PM (wwsoB)

209 Panda Express sux.
IMHO
Not like the SCOAMTT sux.
That's a fact. Posted by: Justamom

I rarely get sick from eating bad food, but Panda? Yeah, several times. No more for me.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 14, 2012 07:18 PM (TtXjG)

210 Any good Panda recipes?
Black and white cookies?

Posted by: andycanuck at December 14, 2012 07:18 PM (jPVBi)

211 Not yet, but I get to. Friend of mine scored a "brick" (what they call a six-pack) and gave me one today as a Chanukah present. Texted me that it's "sweet and peppery, bitter and smooth." Can't. Wait. Posted by: speedster1 at December 14, 2012 11:16 PM (yeM7r) I guess you and I are running in different circles - when you said brick I thought you were referring ot something that weighed 2.2 pounds.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:18 PM (Z9EHQ)

212 Will do, fenelon. I sadly know how that goes.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2012 07:18 PM (wsGWu)

213 Good Night, Robert - take care, stay healthy, have some holiday cheer - proof or no proof...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 07:18 PM (gh+mp)

214 Later Robert!

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 07:18 PM (Mkhiu)

215 197 Well, as long as people are praying, I would be grateful if people would pray for the small church I serve. We are having a lot of conflict. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2012 11:15 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Will be praying for all Morons this tonight and throughout the weekend as well as those affected today....and of course for the Pandas.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at December 14, 2012 07:19 PM (PALjS)

216 192 I got 99 prolems and Obama is one. Posted by: USS Diversity at December 14, 2012 11:14 PM (MPjT I could learn to deal with the other 98.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:19 PM (Z9EHQ)

217

Someone posted on teh early open thread about making homeade almond joy bars and then went off w/o giving the recipe. Here is a couple from allrecipes. Bakers should feel to test and let me know which is better

2 (1 ounce) squares unsweetened chocolate

1 14 oz can sweetend condensed milk

3 cups coconut

1 tsp vanilla, 1 pinch salt, 1 cup whole almonds

Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C). Line a baking sheet with parchment paper.

In the top half a double boiler melt the chocolate and condensed milk, stirring frequently.

Pour the melted chocolate mixture over the coconut. Stir in the vanilla and salt. Mix well until the coconut is completely coated. Drop dough by teaspoonfuls onto the prepared baking sheet. Press one whole almond into the top of each cookie.

recipe # 2

4 egg whites, 1 cup confectioners sugar, 1/2 cup flour, 1 cup choc chips, 1 cup toasted chopped almonds, 1.5 cup coconut 1 tsp vanilla

beat egg whites until stiff, add sugar and vanilla gradually, add coconut and flour and mix well

Stir in choc chips and almonds, drop by spoonfuls onto lightly greased cookie sheet

bake at 350 for 15 minutes, remove and cool

Posted by: PaleRider at December 14, 2012 07:19 PM (dkExz)

218 211

Me too.

Does that make me a bad person?

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 07:19 PM (Mkhiu)

219 Sympathy For The Devil

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBecM3CQVD8

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 07:20 PM (wwsoB)

220 I can *kind* of respect Chrissy Hynde and the thing with Rushbo using her music in his radio show. While her publishing company got all butthurt without her knowledge, she was smart enough to be cool with it and not alienate a big part of her potential audience (and donate the royalties to her preferred charities) even though she's totally opposed to Rush's politics.

The fact is, rock songs are only partly about what the "artist" intended them to be. The song's true meaning is always defined by the AUDIENCE. I think that's one of the things that makes rock an enduring part of the culture.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 14, 2012 11:12 PM (Rhie+)

Everything else being equal, "Back on the Chain Gang" is a really well-written song. Some of the other stuff The Pretenders did isn't all that great, but at least Ms. Hynde recognized that people that weren't like her were enjoying her music. Kinda the opposite of the bint (Missy Elliott - I can't remember) who went off on that "my songs aren't for white people" rant.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 07:20 PM (lJJMb)

221 Me too. Does that make me a bad person? Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 11:19 PM (Mkhiu) good or bad it makes you my kind.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:20 PM (Z9EHQ)

222
In this case, Mr. Panda (Tian Tian) literally has no clue about how his plumbing works with her plumbing. He's literally inept.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 10:45 PM (Mt4hP)

Anybody think maybe some of the male pandas just ain't into female pandas?

I mean, put another male panda in the cage with the male and see if they start decorating the cage. That will give you the answer.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 07:20 PM (Zd/NW)

223 Peaches- you nailed it. He is on massive doses of valtrex. It seems to be helping now, as the pain starting to ease up in his legs. Fenelon! Thanks, that was great. You guys are the best!

Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2012 07:21 PM (wi/sM)

224 Aw shucks Y5

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 07:21 PM (Mkhiu)

225 Anybody think maybe some of the male pandas just ain't into female pandas? I mean, put another male panda in the cage with the male and see if they start decorating the cage. That will give you the answer. Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 11:20 PM (Zd/NW) so should we let them adopt other pandas?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:21 PM (Z9EHQ)

226 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_zoster

It's chicken pox recurring, it travels down nerves to a VERY painful skin eruption. It can cause blindness if it does the optic nerve. Left a years old 1/8 scar on the back of my thumb.

Posted by: DaveA at December 14, 2012 07:21 PM (Xefrb)

227 Heart inducted into that RnR hall of fame? Really, Heart? Nothing against Heart, they're fine... But, WTF?

Posted by: otho at December 14, 2012 07:21 PM (yBF/9)

228

Hey all-

No snarky jokes from me tonight. Just gonna say a prayer for the children and leave you all to it. Stay safe!

-Seamus

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 14, 2012 07:22 PM (1OZSU)

229 Panda farts cause global warming. Beasts, I say....

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 14, 2012 07:22 PM (BVkEs)

230 Aw shucks Y5 Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 11:21 PM (Mkhiu) smartass

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:22 PM (Z9EHQ)

231 I'm presently under attack by an overgrown kitten attacking my bare feet under the desk

Overgrown by 12 pounds

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 07:22 PM (wwsoB)

232 Did you ever notice that every panda on tv or in the movied looks like Brian Dennehy?

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 07:23 PM (Mkhiu)

233 192 I got 99 prolems and Obama is one. Posted by: USS Diversity at December 14, 2012 11:14 PM (MPjT I could learn to deal with the other 98. Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 11:19 PM (Z9EHQ) SCOAMF 2nd Term.....Global Thermonuclear War Fuckit. I've got some potassium iodide pills.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 14, 2012 07:23 PM (Rhie+)

234 And the mother who was retired, to take care of her sin. Take that Geraldo.

Posted by: Fox2! at December 14, 2012 07:23 PM (1Qpmy)

235 Mooch is up for a grammy. Anyone want to bet she doesn't get it. Next year she'll get Ms. Olympia because of those sexy and sassy arms.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 07:23 PM (sqp6o)

236 Robert - one for you: http://tinyurl.com/clduxtq The video is bad and the audio isn't much better, but any metalhead worth their salt knows this part by heart anyways. \m/ Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 11:16 PM (lJJMb) Saw them perform the entire album live a couple of years ago. The entire album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1EbMdAgNPQ

Posted by: The Political Hat \m/ at December 14, 2012 07:24 PM (sZTYJ)

237 felonspoke, prayers. I go to a Methodist church, so I get it.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at December 14, 2012 07:24 PM (ZNaPS)

238 Richard Frenandez had a good piece on his site today about the coordinated media / shock and awe take down of susan "my lips are moving so I am lying" rice today http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2012/12/14/the-commissar-vanishes/#more-26297

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:24 PM (Z9EHQ)

239 You may not be interested in Bizarro Panda ...

But Bizarro Panda is interested in YOU.

Posted by: Bizzaro Panda at December 14, 2012 07:24 PM (HjPtV)

240 I had shingles on my lower back in high school. Hurt like a sonofabitch.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 07:24 PM (Mkhiu)

241 Kinda the opposite of the bint (Missy Elliott - I can't remember) who went off on that "my songs aren't for white people" rant.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 11:20 PM

Linda Ronstadt a few years ago said during a performance that her music wasn't for Republicans and said they should leave if they're in the audience.

They did. She's no longer hot enough to pull that off

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 07:24 PM (wwsoB)

242

Hands up, who can believe that piece of Marxist shit got re-elected?

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 14, 2012 07:24 PM (MPjT8)

243 232 Did you ever notice that every panda on tv or in the movied looks like Brian Dennehy?

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 11:23 PM (Mkhiu)

He needs to talk to his makeup artist. Those were uncredited roles and supposedly anonymous.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 07:25 PM (lJJMb)

244 Oh I forgot to add, I touched a panda a few hours before the shingles erupted.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 07:25 PM (Mkhiu)

245 SCOAMF 2nd Term.....Global Thermonuclear War Fuckit. I've got some potassium iodide pills. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 14, 2012 11:23 PM (Rhie+) yeah, second is bad, his grab for a third 'll be worse.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:25 PM (Z9EHQ)

246 Don't shingles tend to crop up during times of stress? Crap.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2012 07:25 PM (wsGWu)

247 Ah I see some of my line breaks got eaten. 2nd recipe 4 egg whites not 24 egg whites. Otherwise I think it can be deciphered. Sorry about the messy format.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 14, 2012 07:26 PM (dkExz)

248 You may not be interested in Bizarro Panda ... But Bizarro Panda is interested in YOU. in old soviet union, panda feed you

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:26 PM (Z9EHQ)

249

All the talk of Pandas has anyone linked Mike Birbiglia's Panda bit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nmq2z4yuZs

Posted by: buzzion at December 14, 2012 07:26 PM (GULKT)

250 "Don't shingles tend to crop up during times of stress? Crap."

Yes and Yes.

Posted by: mrp at December 14, 2012 07:26 PM (HjPtV)

251 So, after a day full of the Left/State Media arguing to repeal the 2nd Amendment because of the terrible shooting in CT - did anyone ask TEH WON whether this reminded him of the carnage he personally caused in Mexico by selling weapons to drug gangs?

I heard Howie Carr today say something like, "No I think Obama's emotion was real."

Bullshit. This farker wants massacres like this. Precisely so he can use them to move against the 2nd Amendment.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2012 07:26 PM (AUeaU)

252 I rarely get sick from eating bad food, but Panda? Yeah, several times. No more for me. Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 14, 2012 11:18 PM (TtXjG) lol, I got sick there once back in the day. I was so addicted to their orange chicken that this did not deter me from going back. There is something in that stuff.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 07:27 PM (xzxDr)

253 Panda shingles!!!

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 07:27 PM (Mkhiu)

254 The entire album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1EbMdAgNPQ

Posted by: The Political Hat \m/ at December 14, 2012 11:24 PM (sZTYJ)

Fond memories of being a shithead 13 year old in the early 90s listening to that album on my Walkman while riding a bike from place to place. How times change...now it plays straight from my phone into the truck stereo.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 07:27 PM (lJJMb)

255

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame voters are probably the same people who vote on Grammy Awards

Britney Spears has several Grammys yet Brian Wilson in 50 years has only one, and for a minor category

They're kind of like the Nobels
Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 11:17 PM (wwsoB)

I've heard the Grammys likened to when your grandmother buys you an album for your birthday or something. She knows she's heard a lot about that album so she buys it thinking it must be good. It sucks, but she means well. The RnRHoF makes the concious decision to choose inductees that will increase their business - diversity, who has a great PR machine behind them, etc. It's all for the good of promoting the HoF, not recognizing talent and influence.

My little rant - h/t TMS

Posted by: Snotnosed Nuclear Sonic Punk at December 14, 2012 07:28 PM (Y+woW)

256 145 When exactly WAS their finest hour again? Never in history has there been an independent and unbiased media - the whole idea is something they made up and propagate in order to create their false station of superior otherness. *** And interestingly, the electorate was MUCH better educated about the issues of the day when there were many competing media organs then today. Competition trumps collective action what a shock... Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2012 11:03 PM (AUeaU) Not sure I can agree. Seems to me that thanks to the Internet there are far more sources today. You can argue that many are incompetent and almost all have agendas, but there is far more information available to those with the intelligence and education to seek it out. As for more intelligent electorates, I do not remember when that was. I do remember when the majority of the people were not clueless self aggrandizing gits (see the FSA), but I would blame the breakdown in education for that rather than the diversification of the media which is killing off the ivory tower that dictated socialist clap trap to America for generations. It will take time to clean up the mess after the MSM finally collapses, which this list election proves, has not happened yet.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 07:28 PM (jts1f)

257 buzz!!!!!!

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2012 07:28 PM (kpCLl)

258 Looks like Apple overestimated demand for the iPhone 5 at the asking price, you'll be able to buy them from Wally World at 1/3 the original Apple Store price

http://tinyurl.com/catzq4w

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 07:29 PM (wwsoB)

259 Buzz! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nmq2z4yuZs Posted by: buzzion at December 14, 2012 11:26 PM (GULKT) funny

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:29 PM (Z9EHQ)

260 Potassium iodide? Vodka is much better for radiation comrade. At least that's the rumor.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 07:29 PM (sqp6o)

261 @190, polliwog, I didn't watch the video but noticed the wheel right off. I'm guessing it's an Ashford? So no, you're not the only spinner here.

Posted by: NotsothoreauI at December 14, 2012 07:29 PM (uPhCY)

262 I can totally believe the SCOAMTT got reelected. Everytime I go in public.

Posted by: Justamom at December 14, 2012 07:29 PM (Sptt8)

263 Linda Ronstadt a few years ago said during a performance that her music wasn't for Republicans and said they should leave if they're in the audience.

They did. She's no longer hot enough to pull that off

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 11:24 PM

Linda Rondstadt. Never understood the appeal of that overhyped slag. Had 3 songs. All covers.

Blue Bayou- Roy Orbison did better.

Tumbling Dice- Rolling Stones did much better.

Poor, Poor Pitiful Me- Warren Zevon did much, much better.

Posted by: otho at December 14, 2012 07:29 PM (yBF/9)

264 Bullshit. This farker wants massacres like this. Precisely so he can use them to move against the 2nd Amendment.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2012 11:26 PM (AUeaU)

I'm not to the point where I can believe they desire these events, but I've no doubt that they will use them to the fullest extent possible when they occur. "Never waste a crisis" and all that.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 07:30 PM (lJJMb)

265 I rarely get sick from eating bad food, but Panda? Yeah, several times. No more for me. Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 14, 2012 11:18 PM (TtXjG) is it the panda express you got sick from or were you eating improperly prepared panda?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:30 PM (Z9EHQ)

266 My dad had/has terrible shingles after a year of fighting cancer and then a heart attack. For him it is just the pain around his stomach now. He says he gets temporary relief from acupuncture.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 07:30 PM (xzxDr)

267 Potassium iodide? Vodka is much better for radiation comrade. At least that's the rumor. Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 11:29 PM (sqp6o) eat a lot of seaweed.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 07:31 PM (xzxDr)

268 Looks like Apple overestimated demand for the iPhone 5 at the asking price, you'll be able to buy them from Wally World at 1/3 the original Apple Store price http://tinyurl.com/catzq4w Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 11:29 PM (wwsoB) if we ever find ourselves in a world without pandas apple has a chance to replace them.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:32 PM (Z9EHQ)

269 Charlie Daniels 1973 Uneasy Rider RULES. Fuck 2012

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 14, 2012 07:32 PM (MPjT8)

270

Most famous misunderstood line: Don't go out tonight. It's bound to take your life. There's the bathroom on the right.

Kinda makes sense actually.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 14, 2012 07:33 PM (JKNDp)

271 is it the panda express you got sick from or were you eating improperly prepared panda?
Posted by: yankeefifth

No, no. It was the orange chicken.

I only eat pandas that I catch myself. So few know how to properly field dress those bastards.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 14, 2012 07:33 PM (TtXjG)

272 The shingles actually had a part in WW II history

Before the Battle of Midway, Bull Halsey was supposed to lead the fleet but got a nasty case of the shingles and Nimitz had to replace him with Raymond Spruance

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 07:33 PM (wwsoB)

273 eat a lot of seaweed.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 11:31 PM (xzxDr)

That . . . it will make death seem a blessing.

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2012 07:33 PM (kpCLl)

274 koalas too. not so much as pandas but they are annoying. everytime I do word association with koalas the first thing that comes to mind is catapults.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:34 PM (Z9EHQ)

275 The virus that causes shingles hangs out dormant in the nerves just outside the spinal cord. Sometimes, for some reason (low resistance, other infections), the virus particles "wake up" and travel down the nerve to the skin serves by that nerve. That's why the blisters tend to be in clusters on one side of the midline. Moki- hope your little ones have relief soon.

Posted by: Mikeyboss at December 14, 2012 07:34 PM (jMvZ2)

276 269 Charlie Daniels 1973 Uneasy Rider RULES. Fuck 2012

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 14, 2012 11:32 PM (MPjT

I'm happy that Charlie found Jesus, but I wish he didn't feel the need to go back and change all his songs up, a la Prince.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 07:34 PM (lJJMb)

277 Magical Princess Kirsten Dunst is Turning Japanese.
http://youtu.be/3uaHSB0pP7M

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 07:34 PM (oQmCC)

278 "Hands up, who can believe that piece of Marxist shit got re-elected?"
Posted by: USS Diversity at December 14, 2012 11:24 PM (MPjT

I keep hoping I'll wake up and it will all have been a really bad dream.

Posted by: K-Bob at December 14, 2012 07:35 PM (W9r+j)

279

Hi Peaches.

The stupid bitch on Survivor finally got the boot. And she proved why she would have been the best one to be in the end with. Jeff Probst finishes talking to her and asks another player a question and he's gets out almost three words before she's running her mouth again.

Posted by: buzzion at December 14, 2012 07:35 PM (GULKT)

280 I only eat pandas that I catch myself. So few know how to properly field dress those bastards. Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 14, 2012 11:33 PM (TtXjG) I hear you . do not even get me started on panda chitlins. never eat panda chitlins you did not make yourself.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:35 PM (Z9EHQ)

281 There's the bathroom on the right. Yes!!!

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2012 07:35 PM (wsGWu)

282
so should we let them adopt other pandas?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 11:21 PM (Z9EHQ)

Couldn't hurt. The baby mamas are all out trading in their SNAP cards for Kools and bamboo.

Saw one the other day blowing a grizzly behind a dumpster for a 4 pak of Bartyles and James.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 07:35 PM (Zd/NW)

283 not so much as pandas but they are annoying

What. The. Fuck. It's like I've never even met you . . . sigh.

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2012 07:35 PM (kpCLl)

284 The Libtards are all over facebook crapping up thoughtful posts with their gun control bullshit. What vile people. Say a prayer for the survivors who will have to suffer unimaginable pain for the rest of their lives thinking of what could have been.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 14, 2012 07:35 PM (jucos)

285 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame voters are probably the same people who vote on Grammy Awards Britney Spears has several Grammys yet Brian Wilson in 50 years has only one, and for a minor category They're kind of like the Nobels Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 11:17 PM (wwsoB) Grammy for Best Heavy Metal Album. 1989. NEVER FORGET!

Posted by: The Political Hat \m/ at December 14, 2012 07:35 PM (sZTYJ)

286 246 Stress is a cause, but any virus can cause them to erupt. My son had a stomach virus just prior, but I still think it was the meds. On another note, I am ashamed that I thought the heart of rock n roll lyrics said the heart of rock n roll is in Cleveland too. I thought it was an homages to he rock n roll museum. Of course, I thought John Anderson's song money in the bank had a line that said, " I want a passport and a z28". I thought, getting a passport is not that hard or expensive, just go tone post office and get a form. My husband very gently told me it was a Bass boat, and a z28. I stopped singin in the car with him after that. I like my song lyric delusions.

Posted by: Moki at December 14, 2012 07:36 PM (wi/sM)

287 Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 11:31 PM (xzxDr) That . . . it will make death seem a blessing. Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2012 11:33 PM (kpCLl) lol! but seriously, I love seaweed! I eat rice wrapped in nori every day. and I make a mean green beans with hijiki. yummy. And you can stick a peice or two of kombu in with your beans when you are cooking them to help get rid of the gas factor.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 07:36 PM (xzxDr)

288 Iowa Pork queen?

This is why we're DOOMED.

Posted by: runninrebel at December 14, 2012 07:36 PM (je2hI)

289
I'm not to the point where I can believe they desire these events, but I've no doubt that they will use them to the fullest extent possible when they occur. "Never waste a crisis" and all that.
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Obama opposed the infants born alive act in IL. He's not that worried about what happens to other peoples' children.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2012 07:36 PM (AUeaU)

290 277 Magical Princess Kirsten Dunst is Turning Japanese. http://youtu.be/3uaHSB0pP7M Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 07:36 PM (jts1f)

291 Couldn't hurt. The baby mamas are all out trading in their SNAP cards for Kools and bamboo. Saw one the other day blowing a grizzly behind a dumpster for a 4 pak of Bartyles and James. Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 11:35 PM (Zd/NW) scotch all over keyboard.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:36 PM (Z9EHQ)

292 Time's Man of the Year: Susan Rice

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 14, 2012 07:37 PM (BVkEs)

293

he's a friend of them long haired hippie type pinko fags I betcha he's even got a commie flag tacked up on the wall of his garage

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 14, 2012 07:37 PM (MPjT8)

294 Good evening all, Hoping for sleep, not feeling much hope. Except to hope you all are having a good evening. Principal at school should have been trained and equipped, would have been helpful. Back to read comments

Posted by: MountainTurtle who is thankful for all good things at December 14, 2012 07:37 PM (I553D)

295 284 The Libtards are all over facebook crapping up thoughtful posts with their gun control bullshit. What vile people. Say a prayer for the survivors who will have to suffer unimaginable pain for the rest of their lives thinking of what could have been.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 14, 2012 11:35 PM (jucos)

Eggs and omelets - are you familiar with the relationship?

Posted by: NYT Editorial Page, Tomorrow at December 14, 2012 07:37 PM (lJJMb)

296

Posted by: The Political Hat \m/ at December 14, 2012 11:35 PM (sZTYJ)

Many of us never will; however, I'm going to get a beer and attempt it anyway.

Posted by: Snotnosed Nuclear Sonic Punk at December 14, 2012 07:38 PM (Y+woW)

297 4 pak of Bartyles and James. Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 11:35 PM (Zd/NW) I hope it was the peach flavor. that was the best.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 07:38 PM (xzxDr)

298 Get the mossy 535. you dont need all that rail stuff for an extra hundred bucks. You can buy a clamp on flashlight mount which is about the only thing youd need to add to that shotty. I used to own one very similar to that one till that tragic boating accident.

Posted by: helofixer at December 14, 2012 07:39 PM (c3bcd)

299 What. The. Fuck. It's like I've never even met you . . . sigh. Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2012 11:35 PM (kpCLl) Peaches - apologies, it has been a really long week. naturally I would never condone or even think of allowing harm to come to pandas or koalas. it is something that has gotten stuck in a feedback loop.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:39 PM (Z9EHQ)

300 My truck? Six-wheel drive.

Posted by: comatus at December 14, 2012 07:39 PM (qaVK+)

301 Y5: I'd never heard that term ("brick") before either, but apparently that's what they call a 6-pack. Weird bottle, too: there's a ring-like protrusion around the neck; never seen that before. Not ugly, just odd.

Posted by: speedster1 at December 14, 2012 07:39 PM (yeM7r)

302 Off additional comment sock, while still true, not necessary in a nic

Posted by: MountainTurtle at December 14, 2012 07:39 PM (I553D)

303 Saw this on Twitter earlier today. Get ready for a GOP cave on gun control too;

Spkr Boehner cancels this weekend's GOP address - "President Obama can speak for the entire nation at this time of mourning."

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 07:40 PM (wwsoB)

304

Um.... I thought I heard somewhere that they were putting some rap "musicians" into the rock and roll hall of fame. Rap isn't rock and roll. Why would they put NWO? or whatever rap group into the rock and roll hall of fame? Will they start putting Bach and other classical musicians in now also? I mean, apparently rock and roll isn't required anymore... WTF?

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at December 14, 2012 07:40 PM (LMtDw)

305 I hope it was the peach flavor. that was the best. Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 11:38 PM (xzxDr) I hope she got seom breath mints too - she is going to need something to freshen her breath after she finishes the wine coolers.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:40 PM (Z9EHQ)

306 There's the bathroom on the right. Kinda makes sense actually. My sister confided once that she always thought it was "Yeah, there's a baboon on the right!" :- )

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 07:40 PM (gh+mp)

307 Giant sloths roamed north America up until about 10,000 years ago.

@NaturalSelection tweeted: "Panda == Giant sloth"

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 14, 2012 07:40 PM (G0eua)

308 298 Get the mossy 535. you dont need all that rail stuff for an extra hundred bucks. You can buy a clamp on flashlight mount which is about the only thing youd need to add to that shotty. I used to own one very similar to that one till that tragic boating accident.

Posted by: helofixer at December 14, 2012 11:39 PM (c3bcd)

We don't have any idea what kind of gun-nut racist teabagging code you're speaking, but we will vigorously shake our fist at you, sir!

Posted by: NYT Editorial Page, Tomorrow at December 14, 2012 07:41 PM (lJJMb)

309 Grumpy the Younger, is that a negatory on the video?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 07:41 PM (oQmCC)

310 Agree with the homeschool comments - that's what I did

Posted by: MountainTurtle at December 14, 2012 07:42 PM (I553D)

311 303 Saw this on Twitter earlier today. Get ready for a GOP cave on gun control too;

Spkr Boehner cancels this weekend's GOP address - "President Obama can speak for the entire nation at this time of mourning."

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 11:40 PM (wwsoB)

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I cries for realsies though.

Posted by: John "Bawler" Boehner at December 14, 2012 07:42 PM (BVkEs)

312 " in my view, the best beer is the cold one that's in your hand."

Funny story: At the Leipzig goth festival some years ago, I was coming out of the bathroom and these two guys were discussing what their favorite beer was. They were German and why they were speaking English I didn't learn. Without missing a beat, I said, "your favorite beer is the one in your hand." They immediately took a liking to me, introduced me to their friends, including some comely Teutonic lasses, and bought me a few drinks.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 14, 2012 07:43 PM (M9Lon)

313 The stupid bitch on Survivor finally got the boot.

OMG. I have hated her with the heat of a thousand suns. I was just waiting for you to weigh in.

And, now, I had somehow sucked down far more cheap swill than is prudent for someone with my BMI (it's a blessing AND a curse). So I will just say God bless us all and, especially, those poor broken families in Newtown. My heart can't find a way to not be broken. I will pray, without cease, for their souls. And I also wish that asshole would come back to life long enough for me to beat him to death with a claw hammer. (Sorry, Big Guy, but it's how I feel tonight)

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2012 07:43 PM (kpCLl)

314 Chris farley on Fox!

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 14, 2012 07:43 PM (MPjT8)

315 Agree with the homeschool comments - that's what I did Posted by: MountainTurtle at December 14, 2012 11:42 PM (I553D) I would give it a try, however, seeing as my small terrier and methlab have formed a gang, I am not sure it would go as well as I would wish.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:43 PM (Z9EHQ)

316 Honestly, I wouldn't shed a single tear if pandas went instinct.

I'm pretty done with pandas.

Posted by: runninrebel at December 14, 2012 07:43 PM (je2hI)

317 We used to.freeze BJs (teehee) to make them a step.closer to actual mixed drinks. Now they sell that idea in a pouch. Oh well, kudos to the person with the initiative to get it made.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2012 07:43 PM (wsGWu)

318 So Bush didn't cry after 3000 were killed on 9/11 but Obama did over 20 kids. America has elected a little bitch.

Posted by: DAve at December 14, 2012 07:44 PM (XDC0v)

319 309 Grumpy the Younger, is that a negatory on the video? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 11:41 PM I have to admit that I have always like Kirsten for some reason. I have been to Japan many times on business and actually like the place. I am no stranger to anime or manga and related themes of the various subcultures due to having raised two daughters through the teenage phase. But that video struck me as exceedingly bizarre.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 07:44 PM (jts1f)

320 Lidocaine patches helped. Driving all day still gives me a weird feeling in my arm from the seatbelt pressing on my shoulder, Neurontin helps with that.

Posted by: DaveA at December 14, 2012 07:44 PM (Xefrb)

321 311 303
Saw this on Twitter earlier today. Get ready for a GOP cave on gun control too;

Spkr Boehner cancels this weekend's GOP address - "President Obama can speak for the entire nation at this time of mourning."

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 11:40 PM (wwsoB)

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I cries for realsies though.

Posted by: John "Bawler" Boehner at December 14, 2012 11:42 PM (BVkEs)

Anything that comes out of this event will be by regulatory fiat or executive order. Boehner won't have a chance to fuck it up with his leadership.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 07:44 PM (lJJMb)

322 Um.... I thought I heard somewhere that they were putting some rap "musicians" into the rock and roll hall of fame. Rap isn't rock and roll. Why would they put NWO? or whatever rap group into the rock and roll hall of fame? Will they start putting Bach and other classical musicians in now also? I mean, apparently rock and roll isn't required anymore... WTF?

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at December 14, 2012 11:40 PM

They won't put Link Wray into the RnR Hall of Fame, because he's "rockabilly" or some such shit. Rap? Is it racist to point out a contradiction?

Posted by: otho at December 14, 2012 07:44 PM (yBF/9)

323 Just picked up some of the Westy XII. Not a Belgian fan myself - American craft beers are by far superior to anything else - but I will share it with some friends.

Posted by: rabidsquirrel at December 14, 2012 07:44 PM (uGwBr)

324 so, the heart of rock n roll. He does actually at one point say "in cleveland" right? Not in the main chorus but towards the end, just once? right? man. wtf was up with Huey Lewis and News anyway? Did we collectively as a country decide that that was a great band that deserved to have their videos played ad naseum on MTV for an entire five year period? Some comedian used to say something like "I can't respect any band that looks like my dad."

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 07:45 PM (xzxDr)

325

Remington 870

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 14, 2012 07:45 PM (MPjT8)

326 Yes it is bizarre, but a very fun bizarre.

As opposed to finding on YouTube William Shatner singing 'She Blinded Me With Science'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 07:46 PM (oQmCC)

327 So I think Dunst hits every Japanese meme...except for two.

No hello kitty...and no tentacles.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2012 07:46 PM (AUeaU)

328 The Hobbit was pretty fantastic (as long as you liked the book--if you didn't know what you were getting into it would strain credulity past the breaking point). Martin Freeman was the perfect Bilbo. The HFR 3D was a little dizzying, but it did brighten the 3D presentation and made the CGI much, much less noticeable.

Posted by: Palandine[/i] at December 14, 2012 07:46 PM (g7D8V)

329 Can't speak to the Westy XII but when a Bavarian once admitted to me that Belgians make better beer, I had to check it out. Good stuff but they are better at chocolate than at beer IMHO.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 07:46 PM (jts1f)

330 Can't wait for ace's review of 'The Lone Ranger.' Yes, they made it. And Captain Jack Sparrow is playing Tonto.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 07:47 PM (sqp6o)

331 I've heard the Grammys likened to when your grandmother buys you an album for your birthday or something. She knows she's heard a lot about that album so she buys it thinking it must be good. It sucks, but she means well. The RnRHoFmakes the concious decision to choose inductees that will increase their business - diversity, who has a great PR machine behind them, etc. It's all for the good of promoting the HoF, not recognizing talent and influence.

My little rant - h/t TMS

Posted by: Snotnosed Nuclear Sonic Punk at December 14, 2012 11:28 PM (Y+woW)

The record companies get behind both big time. They know that an artist winning a Grammy or getting into the HOF mean big sales for that artist. So they push their other artists into pushing certain bands for those things.

When that doesn't work, they just resort to good old fashioned bribery.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 07:47 PM (Zd/NW)

332 Prayers for you and yours Lauren

Posted by: MountainTurtle at December 14, 2012 07:48 PM (I553D)

333 Y5, you know that thing about the thing, the big thing and the little thing? Well, you don't gotta worry 'bout that anymore.

Posted by: Fuzzkill at December 14, 2012 07:48 PM (ptlfZ)

334 Palandine, yay! hobbit!!! I'm seeing it in a couple of days. Hi Anna! swamped with work writing lately. sorry to not respond to email.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 07:48 PM (xzxDr)

335 #143

Pandas aren't ursines. They're more closely related to raccoons.

Posted by: epobirs at December 14, 2012 07:48 PM (kcfmt)

336 So Bush didn't cry after 3000 were killed on 9/11 but Obama did over 20 kids. America has elected a little bitch.
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Actually I stubbed my toe this morning. That shit hurts. Can't the staff put away Malia's toys like I tell those fuckers? Eh, white people.

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 14, 2012 07:48 PM (AUeaU)

337 323 Just picked up some of the Westy XII. Not a Belgian fan myself - American craft beers are by far superior to anything else - but I will share it with some friends.

Posted by: rabidsquirrel at December 14, 2012 11:44 PM (uGwBr)

You, sir, are a styleist. Seriously, though, not even Maredsous 10? Best Trippel ever.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 07:48 PM (lJJMb)

338 Palandine, went to a midnight showing of the 2D. When Smaug's eye opened, I was so into the story I could have sat in that theatre another three hours to finish it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 07:48 PM (oQmCC)

339 328 The Hobbit was pretty fantastic (as long as you liked the book--if you didn't know what you were getting into it would strain credulity past the breaking point). Martin Freeman was the perfect Bilbo. The HFR 3D was a little dizzying, but it did brighten the 3D presentation and made the CGI much, much less noticeable. Posted by: Palandine at December 14, 2012 11:46 PM (g7D8V) Caught it at the midnight opener with my houseful of teenagers. Jackson had his way with the story but respectfully overall and I thought the HFR was spectacular. A few more years and the movie will not be distinguishable from reality.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 07:49 PM (jts1f)

340 Y5, you know that thing about the thing, the big thing and the little thing? Well, you don't gotta worry 'bout that anymore. Posted by: Fuzzkill at December 14, 2012 11:48 PM (ptlfZ) you guys are gonna ruin my scotch soaked keyboard

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:49 PM (Z9EHQ)

341 Posted by: Palandine at December 14, 2012 11:46 PM (g7D8V) Probably going to see it tomorrow matinee. It's offered in both 3d and 2d. Do you think 3d adds anything to it?

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 07:49 PM (sqp6o)

342 Martin Freeman was the perfect Bilbo.
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Meh, who needs a Bilbo anymore?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke with a lisp at December 14, 2012 07:49 PM (AUeaU)

343 Pandas aren't ursines. They're more closely related to raccoons. Posted by: epobirs at December 14, 2012 11:48 PM (kcfmt) I was simply trying to explain that some of my best friends are bears.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 07:50 PM (Z9EHQ)

344 Anna ... three hours wouldn't do it, there are two more three hour movies to go ... I would have stayed too.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 07:50 PM (jts1f)

345 18-1, lack of tentacles and Hello Kitty I think are pluses. Shows a bit of restraint. 'Everyone avoids me like a cyclone ranger.'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 07:50 PM (oQmCC)

346 Palandine, went to a midnight showing of the 2D. When Smaug's eye opened, I was so into the story I could have sat in that theatre another three hours to finish it. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 11:48 PM (oQmCC) You saw it too!!! lucky. How did they fit Smaug into the first of third? I've been listening to it with my kids in the car and trying to guess where the break off points would be.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 07:51 PM (xzxDr)

347 RWC ... 2D or 3D is not the issue ... see it in HFR.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 07:51 PM (jts1f)

348 'Everyone avoids me like a cyclone ranger
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That stuff will mess you up.

Posted by: Some X-com agent at December 14, 2012 07:51 PM (AUeaU)

349 Bush actually did cry after 9/11. I think we all did.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 14, 2012 07:51 PM (jucos)

350 good night Peaches!

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 07:52 PM (xzxDr)

351 Is it just me, or does Christmas season seem a lot more subdued this year?

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 07:53 PM (wwsoB)

352 349 Bush actually did cry after 9/11. I think we all did. Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 14, 2012 11:51 PM (jucos) I spent nearly 10 days on the couch napping only sporadically and watching Musharaff press conferences at 4am. Finally my wife snapped me out of it and told me to go back to work. The sound of the bodies exploding on the pavement still haunts me.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 07:53 PM (jts1f)

353 190 Who cares about the *dog* in the video?! That's a spinning wheel! And looks like all sorts of wonderful dyed wool in the background. Geez, you lot have to learn to get your priorities straight! Oh...it's just me that cares about those...well, carry on then. *slinks away in shame* Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at December 14, 2012 11:13 PM (wbeNt) You should meet my wife. She spins, dyes, knits, all of it. I'm looking at 3 spinning wheels right now: a Louet she's got for sale, her Lendrum and a non working antique. I often joke that you could herd a sheep into our house and a sweater would come out the back. I'm only half kidding ( mutton for me, yum!)

Posted by: Weirddave at December 14, 2012 07:53 PM (aH+zP)

354 They tell me the wine that's used to make champagne is fairly cheap. The deal with Trappist ales is, first you make a beer and condition it (allow the bubbles to develop in suspension) in the bottle, home-brewer style. Then you add a little bit of fermentable sugar, and sometimes a little bit of a different yeast, to each bottle, and re-seal it. Then you have to turn the bottles after waiting the right amount of time, and finally set them up and let them set for quite awhile for the yeast to settle so the beer gets clear..

Turning the bottles, I'm sure you know, is what makes champagne so expensive. A few blow up each time, and, when I was learning anyway, several champagnistes were killed doing this job every year. It all adds up.

I have made these ales. No near-death experiences, but easily 3 - 4 times as much work, and much more time waiting, than other complex beers. $85 a six is way too expensive, and you should not pay that. You should make your own.

The best beer is free, just like the best laundry service, right? I don't think you should be able to say things like that if you can't fart at the same time.

Posted by: comatus at December 14, 2012 07:53 PM (qaVK+)

355 I like 3D movies. This one doesn't throw a ton of crap at you, but it does make the scenes awfully deep, and this seems brighter than other 3D films--I'd do it.

I didn't know how Jackson was going to take a children's book and eventually seamlessly link it into the sophisticated and grim LOTR without killing its whimsy, but I think he's doing a pretty solid job.

Lucas, THIS is how you do a prequel.

Posted by: Palandine[/i] at December 14, 2012 07:53 PM (g7D8V)

356

My daughter in law knows I love deviled eggs and seldom get them. When the family gets together she usually brings a large plate of them, which I greatly appreciate. To relieve her of shelling the hard boiled eggs I bought a box of something called eggies. They are nylon egg shapped thingies you crack an egg into and boil the eggs. I hard boiled a couple eggs to try them out today. They are more of a pain in the ass than they are worth really. Then I got thinking about their potential. You could put food dye in them for green eggs and ham. You could add hot sauce to the egg white and red food dye as a warning and serve hard boiled. Put three yolks in on for a heart attack special. Put diced ham or pickle relish in them. I think this could be interesting. There is more potential for entertainment here than I thought at first.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 14, 2012 07:53 PM (JKNDp)

357 Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 11:51 PM (jts1f) HFR is the High Frame Rate, correct? Do they distinguish it now? I thought it was filmed with that and that's what the theatres get.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 07:54 PM (sqp6o)

358 349 Bush actually did cry after 9/11. I think we all did.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 14, 2012 11:51 PM (jucos)

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Bush was also very pissed. I'll never forget it.

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 14, 2012 07:54 PM (BVkEs)

359 Last night was the peak but you can still try to catch the Geminid Meteor Shower. SMOD is such a tease. _ ___ since no one else mentioned it yet.. ....my son and I went out last night and saw some huge meteors. If you get a chance go outside for 20 minutes....unless of course you've seen a meteor shower before....then its really the same as all the other ones.....and what happened to Hubert? Banned I guess.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at December 14, 2012 07:54 PM (PALjS)

360 Small terrior and meth labs could make homeschooling a wee bit difficult

Posted by: MountainTurtle at December 14, 2012 07:55 PM (I553D)

361 335 #143

Pandas aren't ursines. They're more closely related to raccoons.

Posted by: epobirs at December 14, 2012 11:48 PM (kcfmt

Hate to break it to you but they are ursines and not related to racoons. They've checked the genetics of it and yes its a bear. I remember the "Panda is related to raccoons not bears" as a kid and by high school they had determined, yep, definitely a bear.

Posted by: buzzion at December 14, 2012 07:56 PM (GULKT)

362 336 Can you imagine if Bush was a weepy little fuck on national t.v.? So is Obama being a little bitch or ACTING like a little bitch? Way to telegraph strentgth to the world, asshole

Posted by: DAve at December 14, 2012 07:56 PM (XDC0v)

363 Hey elizabethe, its okay about the email. We got here!

The party sees the Lonely Mountain. A thrush flies past them to the mountain. The camera seems to follow that thrush the whole way. Eventually the bird lands atop one of the giant dwarven statues at the entrance of a devastated great hall. The bird then picks up something in its beak and starts trying to break it against stone. Scene changes to the interior and camera pans over this fast sea of golden treasure. You hear the bird's actions reverberate in this vast space. Camera keeps panning to this one giant pile of coins that suddenly shifts, coins cascade off this giant eye, and then the eye opens. Followed by the credits.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 07:56 PM (oQmCC)

364 At the theater I was at, you had _four_ choices for The Hobbit: 2D, 3D, IMAX, and high frame rate 3D. I went with the last one--second choice would have been IMAX.

Posted by: Palandine[/i] at December 14, 2012 07:57 PM (g7D8V)

365 327 So I think Dunst hits every Japanese meme...except for two.

No hello kitty...and no tentacles.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2012 11:46 PM (AUeaU)

When she flashed her panties, a tentacle came out at the Caniac home.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 07:58 PM (Zd/NW)

366 HFR is the High Frame Rate, correct? Do they distinguish it now? I thought it was filmed with that and that's what the theatres get. Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 11:54 PM (sqp6o) Some theaters can show it and some cannot so I suppose it requires special projectors or something. The IMAX in my area did not have it so I caught it on a smaller screen at an MJR. The clarity was impressive. I agree with the previous comment about the 3D as well. It was not used to shove stuff in your face, just to give great depth to the images.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 07:58 PM (jts1f)

367 Bush was also very pissed. I'll never forget it. Posted by: CraigPoe at December 14, 2012 11:54 PM (BVkEs) I was still a big lib after 9/11. I remember listening to the "you're with us or against us" speech in my car and crying because the war-mongers were going to invade every country on the planet.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 07:58 PM (xzxDr)

368 Meh, Didn't read the comments. Need to read the thread. Then I will get bored I suppose and not want to post and say something stupid. Nice thing about living PST/MTN time, everything big busy on EST is at least 3 hours old. Wake up - Find Gabe Get Home - ONT

Posted by: Deety at December 14, 2012 07:58 PM (8eLGd)

369 If it can't open a garbage can with 3 bungees holding the lid on, then its not anything like a raccoon.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 14, 2012 07:59 PM (G0eua)

370 362 336 Can you imagine if Bush was a weepy little fuck on national t.v.? So is Obama being a little bitch or ACTING like a little bitch? Way to telegraph strentgth to the world, asshole

Posted by: DAve at December 14, 2012 11:56 PM (XDC0v)

Barry's tears, real or fake, aren't the issue. The issue at hand is what he plans to do about today's events. http://tinyurl.com/cezccbk

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 07:59 PM (lJJMb)

371 When she flashed her panties, a tentacle came out at the Caniac home. Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 11:58 PM (Zd/NW) ------------------------------------------------------- And by Caniac home you mean your underpants right? Just as the Mayans predicted.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 14, 2012 08:00 PM (jucos)

372 Camera keeps panning to this one giant pile of coins that suddenly shifts, coins cascade off this giant eye, and then the eye opens. Followed by the credits. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 11:56 PM (oQmCC) damn. I cannot wait! my husband and my 6 year old have been telling each other riddles since we listened to the exchange between Bilbo and Gollum. It's pretty funny. I'm just happy we've progressed past knock knock jokes.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 08:00 PM (xzxDr)

373 Good night all

Posted by: MountainTurtle at December 14, 2012 08:00 PM (I553D)

374 370 That's ONE issue. Where are the tears for all the dead servicemen and women and the tens of thousands who have been maimed in Iraq and Afghanistan???

Posted by: DAve at December 14, 2012 08:01 PM (XDC0v)

375 Howdy Deety, reading anything interesting?

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger, Father of Zebadiah at December 14, 2012 08:02 PM (jts1f)

376 I remember the "Panda is related to raccoons not bears" as a kid and by high school they had determined, yep, definitely a bear. Posted by: buzzion at December 14, 2012 11:56 PM (GULKT) can I get a link to that research please, if you have it? I talk to my kid about species and animal relationships all the time. I don't want to screw it up.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 08:02 PM (xzxDr)

377 In 2D that incredible depth of field breaks down, it becoming too saturated with detail. Things get blurry almost. The opening deep shop in the depths of Erebor as they find the Heart of the Mountain is a good example.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:03 PM (oQmCC)

378 thanks for the tip Anna. Normally I avoid 3D, but I think in this case I'll make sure we see the 3D one.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 08:04 PM (xzxDr)

379 *watches the Underpants Gnomes flee the Caniac home*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:04 PM (oQmCC)

380 If you look at the free agent signings by the Dodgers and Angels, you wouldn't know that there's a deep recession coming and California is ready to go tits up

Even the Yankees are saying "dudes, splurging much?"

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 08:04 PM (wwsoB)

381 Posted by: DAve at December 14, 2012 11:56 PM (XDC0v) Obama is one of us. He cares for the little people. Didn't you hear the reporters announcing that an emotional President had to pause during his speech? Who am i kidding. That fake MFing POS could give a rats ass about the children.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 08:06 PM (sqp6o)

382 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 12:03 AM (oQmCC)

Sometimes my life is too saturated with detail, like when I accidentally hit my thumb with a hammer.

Posted by: model_1066 at December 14, 2012 08:06 PM (E23Tl)

383 I remember Obama crying his eyes out over the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi..
Not.
Just bumps in the road.

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 14, 2012 08:06 PM (BVkEs)

384 I went to Cinemark/Tinseltown to see it. Buying ticket they were going 'do you want a Hobbit t-shirt? Only $20' Said no. Before the movie started down there at base, 'does anyone want a t-shirt?' Again no one forked over $20.

One friend dressed as a hobbit. Another person looked like he had the official Mithrandir™ costume.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:07 PM (oQmCC)

385 So I just found that Within Temptation did an album of covers of recent pop songs. Some of them are amazing...check out this cover of Grenade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aynjIfao2AI

Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2012 08:08 PM (AUeaU)

386 #343

Just saying, it's OK to hate on the pandas and still be down with the bears.

Pandas are tanuki that took a severe evolutionary wrong turn.

Posted by: epobirs at December 14, 2012 08:09 PM (kcfmt)

387 Pandas excrete their own dipping sauce...ancient Chinese secret.

Posted by: model_1066 at December 14, 2012 08:10 PM (E23Tl)

388 can I get a link to that research please, if you have it? I talk to my kid about species and animal relationships all the time. I don't want to screw it up.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 15, 2012 12:02 AM (xzxDr)

Well I remember it from high school and did check the panda's wiki page for some confirmation. It says its closest relative would be the spectacled bear of south america. Here's the Nature.com article that wiki uses for its source.

http://tinyurl.com/6a9aqqz

Posted by: buzzion at December 14, 2012 08:10 PM (GULKT)

389 Who am i kidding. That fake MFing POS could give a rats ass about the children.
___
Hey, 20 less burdens in CT - I care. And when the fuck is that waygu coming. I told them to bring it like 15 minutes ago.

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 14, 2012 08:10 PM (AUeaU)

390 Hold on, i think i just watched a website dedicated to hooking up with cougars. But yeah, an inaminate object is the cause of our woes.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 08:11 PM (sqp6o)

391 Can't speak for Obama, nor do I want to. I wish that Presidents didn't feel obligated to insert themselves into situations like this. They were children. Killed right before Christmas. There is no making sense of it. Worst part of this is that I have to explain this to my 8 year old.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 14, 2012 08:11 PM (jucos)

392 elizabethe, they do have the scene where Bilbo is trading riddles with Gollum down below the lair of the Goblin King. Gollum trying to figure out the riddles, looks like he is about to pop a few blood vessels - almost feel sorry for the poor blighter. Almost.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:11 PM (oQmCC)

393 387 Pandas excrete their own dipping sauce...ancient Chinese secret.

Posted by: model_1066 at December 15, 2012 12:10 AM (E23Tl)

----

Dat's teh funneh.

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 14, 2012 08:11 PM (BVkEs)

394 Who's up for Panda Rinds in Sweet and Sour sauce?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:12 PM (oQmCC)

395 How old are the oldest known Panda remains? If its only 10,000 years or so, they could well be just another evolutionary dead end.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 14, 2012 08:13 PM (G0eua)

396 epobirs - Magical Princess Kirsten Dunst
http://youtu.be/3uaHSB0pP7M

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:13 PM (oQmCC)

397 Love me some Pickled Panda's Feet.

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 14, 2012 08:14 PM (BVkEs)

398 391 Can't speak for Obama, nor do I want to. I wish that Presidents didn't feel obligated to insert themselves into situations like this. They were children. Killed right before Christmas. There is no making sense of it. Worst part of this is that I have to explain this to my 8 year old. Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 15, 2012 12:11 AM

Actually, the MSM expects the President to stop everything and make a statement on any big breaking story they cover

You know, because "please Mr President, DO SOMETHING"

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2012 08:14 PM (wwsoB)

399 My thoughts on the first Hobbit movie: Overall it was very good & enjoyable. It had its light moments, but consistent w/ differences between the Tolkien books (though a bit too light at times). The time flew by and the 2 hour 49 min. run time seemed too short. I can see why they cut it into three movies. They are going to flesh out all the dwarves over the three movies, it looks like. And add plenty of LotR foreshadowing. Can't wait for the 2nd and then 3rd movie, mostly so I can marathon the directors cuts! Watching the LotR movies *after* watching the foreshadowing in the Hobbit films should be interesting. Sylvester McCoy was brilliant. I kept on wondering if there were ferrets in his pants! Martin Freeman was also excellent. Frankly, I'd love him play the next Doctor in Doctor Who.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 14, 2012 08:14 PM (sZTYJ)

400 almost feel sorry for the poor blighter. Almost. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 12:11 AM (oQmCC) The pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many.

Posted by: Mithrandir at December 14, 2012 08:14 PM (jts1f)

401 Time for bed. Good night all!

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 14, 2012 08:14 PM (Mt4hP)

402 You, sir, are a styleist. Seriously, though, not even Maredsous 10? Best Trippel ever. Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 14, 2012 11:48 PM (lJJMb) I prefer DIPAs and Imperial Stouts. When going Belgian, I opt for quads. Just my personal taste. As an aside, I have seen people pay ridiculous prices for beers. I've been offered $80-100 a bottle for my 2009 Three Floyds Dark Lord, which pretty much just tastes like syrup.

Posted by: rabidsquirrel at December 14, 2012 08:15 PM (Ujyht)

403 390 Hold on, i think i just watched a website dedicated to hooking up with cougars.

But yeah, an inaminate object is the cause of our woes.

Posted by: RWC at December 15, 2012 12:11 AM (sqp6o)

Was it the ad for cougarlife.com? Are they still running those on tv?

Posted by: buzzion at December 14, 2012 08:15 PM (GULKT)

404 I didn't think they could render Gollum any better. I was wrong. You will believe he's a living breathing character. The riddle game was very, very true to the book. People in my theater cheered when Gollum appeared.

Posted by: Palandine[/i] at December 14, 2012 08:16 PM (g7D8V)

405 #361

Actually, there is still debate. Those who call pandas ursidae are forced to admit they branched off so long ago as to make it a very qualified classification. The closest living relative is the spectacled bear, which is also subject to classification controversy.

The red panda is officially in its own family, booted out of the ursidae and written out of the will.

Posted by: epobirs at December 14, 2012 08:16 PM (kcfmt)

406 The Great ONT Panda Debate. In this corner in the blue trunks we have Ursine. In this corner in the red trunks we have Raccoon. Officiating this evening will be Koala. Let's get ready to rumble! Watch for our lovely Wallaby between rounds!

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 08:16 PM (R0GbT)

407 Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 15, 2012 12:11 AM (jucos)

Obama puts his dumb ass in front of the camera when his handlers think it will make him look good. Did we really need to know that he thought the police acted stupidly when some chump lost his keys and was apprehended trying to break into his own house? Really?

Posted by: model_1066 at December 14, 2012 08:17 PM (E23Tl)

408 Well, the Mrs wanted to go downtown for the "Holiday event" the city does on friday nights in December. Tonight's main event was the city's Christmas parade. When in the hell did some race car driver from a local track's car become a float? He had his car on a trailer and would stomp on the gas. There were about 50 groups in the parade, and exactly 1 float. That float was the DAV. All these groups couldn't do more than put a blow up Santa on a trailer and call it a float. The DAV's was a proper float, a trailer that didn't look like a trailer. A trailer with something built on it to make it look festive.

Cripes, some of these groups here would have thrown a bouquet of dead daisies on the back of a trailer and try to enter it into the Rose Parade. MrsCaniac remarked that the local high schools had better looking floats for their homecoming parades.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 08:17 PM (Zd/NW)

409 As an aside, I have seen people pay ridiculous prices for beers. I've been offered $80-100 a bottle for my 2009 Three Floyds Dark Lord, which pretty much just tastes like syrup. Posted by: rabidsquirrel at December 15, 2012 12:15 AM (Ujyht) How about a Â£500 110-Proof Beer in a Stoat: http://bit.ly/W7YZXi

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 14, 2012 08:18 PM (sZTYJ)

410 Me-sa could have donea much better jobsa with the precious! Whysa mees labeled a racistes.

Posted by: George Lucasses at December 14, 2012 08:18 PM (sqp6o)

411 Pandas...the new longbows. I mean crossbows!

Posted by: rabidsquirrel at December 14, 2012 08:18 PM (Ujyht)

412 USS Diversity: Sorry for the late response, but yeah, I'm a DJ...been in radio for 27 years. Just can't quit it. The station I'm at now is "classic hits"...mostly 70s pop-rock with some classic album tracks thrown in. And yeah, the original "Uneasy Rider" is great.

Linda Ronstadt...nice enough voice, and nice to look at back in the 70s, but practically every hit song of hers was a cover. Never could get an original song (outside of "Different Drum" with the Stone Poneys) very far up the chart.

Public Enemy is the rap group being inducted into the HoF...the same group who gave us "F*** Tha Police". Sheesh.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2012 08:18 PM (5J54Q)

413 How about a Â£500 110-Proof Beer in a Stoat: http://bit.ly/W7YZXi Posted by: The Political Hat at December 15, 2012 12:18 AM (sZTYJ) Wait just a minute... just image how much we could get if we sold a keg of beer in a panda!

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 14, 2012 08:18 PM (sZTYJ)

414 Red Panda Stout - made with real panda.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:19 PM (oQmCC)

415 []As an aside, I have seen people pay ridiculous prices for beers. I've been offered $80-100 a bottle for my 2009 Three Floyds Dark Lord, which pretty much just tastes like syrup. Posted by: rabidsquirrel at December 15, 2012 12:15 AM (Ujyht) I once had a $150 shot of Louis XIII cognac. I am so glad I was on an expense account. What a ridiculous waste of money. Don't get me wrong. It was excellent, but it was not 3x the excellence of a Remy XO.

Posted by: Mithrandir at December 14, 2012 08:19 PM (jts1f)

416 413 How about a Â£500 110-Proof Beer in a Stoat:
http://bit.ly/W7YZXi

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 15, 2012 12:18 AM (sZTYJ)

Wait just a minute... just image how much we could get if we sold a keg of beer in a panda!

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 15, 2012 12:18 AM (sZTYJ)

I'm thinking of a new brew...something like bamboo lager...

Posted by: model_1066 at December 14, 2012 08:20 PM (E23Tl)

417 wow sock fail and format fail in one post ... must need a fresh glass ... back soon.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 08:20 PM (jts1f)

418 Oh, and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a joke, just like the Grammy Awards.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2012 08:20 PM (5J54Q)

419 Red Panda Stout - made with real panda.

Avoid the Brown and Yellow stouts.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 14, 2012 08:21 PM (G0eua)

420 Was it the ad for cougarlife.com? Are they still running those on tv? Posted by: buzzion at December 15, 2012 12:15 AM (GULKT) Not 100 percent sure, but assuming so. Hell, i'm watching a channel with Tanya Harding as one of the stars. Probably 5 bucks to run an advert.

Posted by: George Lucasses at December 14, 2012 08:21 PM (sqp6o)

421 Chuck D (head of Public Enemy) is a racist who's a member of the ridiculous cult the Nation of Islam, but he probably has one of the best rap deliveries there is. I really like his deep, commanding voice. Wish he wouldn't use it to peddle racism, but you can't have it all.

Posted by: Palandine[/i] at December 14, 2012 08:21 PM (g7D8V)

422 Some theaters can show it and some cannot so I suppose it requires special projectors or something. The IMAX in my area did not have it so I caught it on a smaller screen at an MJR. The clarity was impressive.

I agree with the previous comment about the 3D as well. It was not used to shove stuff in your face, just to give great depth to the images.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 11:58 PM (jts1f)

The local rag did a story on the movie and the frame rate was IIRC 48 fps, and normal movies are done at 24 fps. The article said that the higher frame rate makes some of the special effects look not so special. Don't know if that is true or not.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 08:22 PM (Zd/NW)

423 I think it is time to write a book about the fact we are to civilized. I have long held the belief crazy people are held in check by fear just like the rest of us. Most, at the basest level , fear retribution. It is no accident he killed a defenseless woman, defenseless children and teachers. Union thugs are assholes only as long as they believe they will get away with it. We as a society are so worried about offending people we don't decry the atrocities of radical muslims. We don't hold normal muslims accountable for the crazies. We let inner cities rot and when the crime and attacks cross racial barriers we don't hold the community at large responsible. Nature provides a strong learning tool called pain for stupid and insane acts. It teaches early on in the learning process to not do stupid inconsiderate actions. That way the little stupid inconsiderate things don't get blown up to huge attrocities. We, however, in showing "compassion" allow stupid crap to fester in the individual and society. This is the first comment I have posted on the school shootings as the damage this monster visited upon the children, their parents and the community is too horrible to imagine.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 14, 2012 08:22 PM (JKNDp)

424 I sa want da racistes sock offas.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 08:23 PM (sqp6o)

425 How about a Â£500 110-Proof Beer in a Stoat: http://bit.ly/W7YZXi Posted by: The Political Hat at December 15, 2012 12:18 AM (sZTYJ) Meh. That was just a continuation of Brewdog's pissing contest with SchorschbrÃ¤u over who could make the world's strongest "beer". I go for quality over ABV, though the two are not always mutually exclusive.

Posted by: rabidsquirrel at December 14, 2012 08:23 PM (Ujyht)

426 Linda Ronstadt...nice enough voice, and nice to look at back in the 70s, but practically every hit song of hers was a cover. Never could get an original song (outside of "Different Drum" with the Stone Poneys) very far up the chart.

Public Enemy is the rap group being inducted into the HoF...the same group who gave us "F*** Tha Police". Sheesh.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 15, 2012 12:18 AM (5J54Q)

I saw Steve Vai being interviewed, and he was talking about auditioning for Zappa when he was 19 or so...Zappa had him play all sorts of oddball stuff, then had him try to play a note that was physically impossible with any guitar. When Vai protested, Zappa said 'I hear Linda Ronstadt is looking for a guitar player'. Teh funneh.

Posted by: model_1066 at December 14, 2012 08:24 PM (E23Tl)

427 I was thinking (shocker) SCOAMF is like a panda. Black and white. His mate needs to be artificially inseminated. Most intriguing, they all have male panda friends named Reggie.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 14, 2012 08:25 PM (R0GbT)

428 #396

I remember seeing that a couple years ago. For some reason I'm seeing it linked a lot today.

Posted by: epobirs at December 14, 2012 08:26 PM (kcfmt)

429 The article said that the higher frame rate makes some of the special effects look not so special.

My impression was that it was "more real than real," which can be a little disconcerting, but I think that worked for a fantasy story. It's slightly wooziness-inducing (the folks who talk about it making them sick are being overly dramatic, I think). It took a bit for me to get into it--the difference reminded me of when I go to my folks' house and watch their HDTV (I don't have one myself)--there's something about the motion of figures in HD that still throws me off. Similar thing here, although your mileage may vary.

Posted by: Palandine[/i] at December 14, 2012 08:26 PM (g7D8V)

430 For the record, if I ever see a racoon the size of a panda I'm getting the Hell out of its way.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 14, 2012 08:26 PM (JKNDp)

431 And by Caniac home you mean your underpants right? Just as the Mayans predicted.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 15, 2012 12:00 AM (jucos)

379 *watches the Underpants Gnomes flee the Caniac home*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 12:04 AM (oQmCC)

My world almost ended when MrsCaniac saw me at the computer, Kristen's panties on the screen, and the tentacle coming out from under the desk. Harrowing times.

I'm lucky that the Underpants Gnomes stay away from our house. I know that when I put mine on, "yellow in the front, brown in the back" let's me know how to put them on.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 08:26 PM (Zd/NW)

432 Meh. That was just a continuation of Brewdog's pissing contest with SchorschbrÃ¤u over who could make the world's strongest "beer". I go for quality over ABV, though the two are not always mutually exclusive.

Posted by: rabidsquirrel at December 15, 2012 12:23 AM (Ujyht)

Isn't the alcohol limit from fermentation something like 12%? Then the yeast gets drunk and wraps its Corvette around a telephone pole?

Posted by: model_1066 at December 14, 2012 08:27 PM (E23Tl)

433 I saw Steve Vai being interviewed, and he was talking about auditioning for Zappa when he was 19 or so...Zappa had him play all sorts of oddball stuff, then had him try to play a note that was physically impossible with any guitar. When Vai protested, Zappa said 'I hear Linda Ronstadt is looking for a guitar player'. Teh funneh.

Posted by: model_1066 at December 15, 2012 12:24 AM (E23Tl)

================

That is hilarious! I hadn't heard that story before! Thanks for sharing it.

A friend of mine in high school had a poster of Ronstadt on his wall. I said, "So you like her music?" His reply: "She sings?"

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2012 08:27 PM (5J54Q)

434

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 15, 2012 12:18 AM (5J54Q)

====================

OK ...majored in that for awhile. I have some experience. When your station needs a guy call me!

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 14, 2012 08:27 PM (MPjT8)

435 You know what I really really hate? Cute sneezing baby Pandas. I fucking hate them..

Posted by: TexasJew at December 14, 2012 08:28 PM (lD8ju)

436

So.....

Which is the biggest boost for these "artists"?....

a grammy....

getting into the hall of fame.... or.....

their unexpected demise.... ala Whitney Houston. Big sales all around, but, which is the best for the bottom line?

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at December 14, 2012 08:28 PM (LMtDw)

437 421 Chuck D (head of Public Enemy) is a racist who's a member of the ridiculous cult the Nation of Islam, but he probably has one of the best rap deliveries there is. I really like his deep, commanding voice. Wish he wouldn't use it to peddle racism, but you can't have it all. Posted by: Palandine at December 15, 2012 12:21 AM (g7D8V) If i could bring back my music collection from the early 90's i would be the whitest NoI member ever. I grew up, some didn't. Professor X Onyx Etc...

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 08:28 PM (sqp6o)

438

Posted by: NotsothoreauI at December 14, 2012 11:29 PM (uPhCY)

Awesome! I have an Ashford traditional so I'm guessing the one in the video isn't Ashford. I was thinking it looked more like a Kromsky (sp?) or another one of the slightly fancier brands.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at December 14, 2012 08:28 PM (wbeNt)

439 epobirs, it might be my fault for stumbling across it earlier and posting it in the morning Headlines thread.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:29 PM (oQmCC)

440 The comment box isn't accepting all the line breaks I put in.

PIXXXXXXYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!

Posted by: Captain Whitebread gets all Captain Kirk and stuff at December 14, 2012 08:30 PM (5J54Q)

441 Ohio Dan ... I am not ready to invoke race into this subject but I fully concur regarding the need for the moderate Muslims to take their larger than average ratio of crazy bastards to task. However, I agree that the problem with our country regarding the increasing number of outrageous acts of evil is that we do in fact protect the borderline insane instead of driving them to the fringes of society as was the case a few generations ago. Is our society more just overall? Enough to tolerate being subject to these horrific tragedies? Tough issue. I ran the streets without a care in the world. My kids are black belts and trained in the use of every hand weapon I can find classes for. I think they have had a better childhood than I did (complex tangle of issue there) but it is definitely a different kind of childhood.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 08:30 PM (jts1f)

442 Cute sneezing baby Pandas.
I fucking hate them..

They're good in General Tso sauce, but you have to get the batter right.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 14, 2012 08:30 PM (hO8IJ)

443 saw it twice, thumbs up for The Hobbit

Posted by: The Dude at December 14, 2012 08:31 PM (tw6Ar)

444 436
So.....

Which is the biggest boost for these "artists"?....
a grammy....
getting into the hall of fame.... or.....
their unexpected demise.... ala Whitney Houston. Big sales all around, but, which is the best for the bottom line?

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at December 15, 2012 12:28 AM (LMtDw)

===================

Ask the Elvis Presley Estate.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2012 08:31 PM (5J54Q)

445 Public Enemy is the rap group being inducted into the HoF...the same group who gave us "F*** Tha Police". Sheesh. Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 15, 2012 12:18 AM (5J54Q) Umm, no. That was NWA.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 08:31 PM (sqp6o)

446 You saw two Hobbits?? Did one of the dwarves smack you?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:32 PM (oQmCC)

447 Saw The Hobbit tonight. Pretty awesome. Was hoping for a Star Trek trailer. Instead got Twilight the Second, The Host. The eldest wants me to see it with her. Gah.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 14, 2012 08:32 PM (DoZD+)

448 445 Public Enemy is the rap group being inducted into the HoF...the same group who gave us "F*** Tha Police". Sheesh.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 15, 2012 12:18 AM (5J54Q)

Umm, no. That was NWA.

Posted by: RWC at December 15, 2012 12:31 AM (sqp6o)

Word.

Posted by: model_1066 at December 14, 2012 08:32 PM (E23Tl)

449 They're good in General Tso sauce, but you have to get the batter right.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at December 15, 2012 12:30 AM (hO8IJ)

I thought that was chicken...

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2012 08:33 PM (5J54Q)

450 I thought that was chicken...

It's good to try new things. And the new things pretty much all taste like chicken.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 14, 2012 08:33 PM (hO8IJ)

451 #422

It happens whenever they make one aspect better. They have to up their game everywhere else. A lot of people in TV hated the transition to HD because a lot of stuff they used to get away with was now unacceptable. Aging actors couldn't hide behind makeup as readily. SFX got tougher to pull off on the cheap. Set design got a lot more demanding.

A show like Star Trek gets a lot more expensive when you expect most of the audience to be watching in 1080i. I once did some IT work for Babylonian Productions and got a tour of the stages in Sunland where most of B-5 was shot. The amazing thing about it was how generally shabby it really was. They used every trick they had to make everything look much better on TV than it did in real life.

Posted by: epobirs at December 14, 2012 08:34 PM (kcfmt)

452 Umm, no. That was NWA.

Posted by: RWC at December 15, 2012 12:31 AM (sqp6o)

Word.

I stand corrected....it all sounds the same to me.
I denounce myself.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2012 08:34 PM (5J54Q)

453 Actually, there is still debate. Those who call pandas ursidae are forced to admit they branched off so long ago as to make it a very qualified classification. The closest living relative is the spectacled bear, which is also subject to classification controversy. The red panda is officially in its own family, booted out of the ursidae and written out of the will. Posted by: epobirs at December 15, 2012 12:16 AM (kcfmt) Now, this is what I'm talking about! I love scientific debates. Let's get ready to rumble! Watch for our lovely Wallaby between rounds! Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 15, 2012 12:16 AM (R0GbT) LOL!!!! tomorrow we have to start shouting URSINE! RACOON! in the comments just to fuck with people.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 08:34 PM (xzxDr)

454 Ooops... just got another AR. Tomorrow is the last day to buy something that will be out of jail by the day after Christmas... if you live in Occupied America

Posted by: DAve at December 14, 2012 08:34 PM (XDC0v)

455 Trailers for the Hobbit - Jack the Giant Slayer, Oblivion, stupid Fraking movie, After Earth, Pacific Rim, and yeah forgot the stupid Host - Village of the Damned or Invasion of the Body Snatchers anyone?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:34 PM (oQmCC)

456 Umm, no. That was NWA. Posted by: RWC at December 15, 2012 12:31 AM (sqp6o) --------------------------------------------------------- Which, as you know, stands for Naggers With Attitude.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 14, 2012 08:35 PM (jucos)

457 Speaking of getting smacked by a dwarf, the battle sequence escaping from the goblin caves was stunning. Is "+SmuD" related to SMOD?

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 08:35 PM (jts1f)

458 I appreciate your input Grumpy. I believe America is becoming a hugely divided country. It is divided on economic, social, racial and most importantly educational lines. There was a crappy movie called Zardoz in the 70's that addressed these issues. We are smarter than ever and dumber than ever. Our instinct for self preservation is being diluted.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 14, 2012 08:35 PM (JKNDp)

459 Mountain Troll, "Everything tastes like chicken, except the chicken."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:36 PM (oQmCC)

460 456 Umm, no. That was NWA.
Posted by: RWC at December 15, 2012 12:31 AM (sqp6o)
---------------------------------------------------------
Which, as you know, stands for Naggers With Attitude.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 15, 2012 12:35 AM (jucos)

I thought it was Naughty, Without Ascots!!!

Posted by: model_1066 at December 14, 2012 08:36 PM (E23Tl)

461 Ooops... just got another AR. Tomorrow is the last day to buy something that will be out of jail by the day after Christmas... if you live in Occupied America Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 12:34 AM (XDC0v) that is quite sad

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 14, 2012 08:37 PM (jfSqj)

462 I know far too much about the spectacled bear thanks to Go, Diego, Go!

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2012 08:37 PM (wsGWu)

463 #439

It's not just you. I saw it referenced about a dozen times in the last day. A mini-meme will revive an old item once in a while. You just have to catch the eye of enough people who missed it first time around. You can bet a whole bunch of people seeing that Chive video of Michelle Janneke missed the first video that inspired it and are now seeking it out.

Posted by: epobirs at December 14, 2012 08:37 PM (kcfmt)

464 Grumpy the Younger, the Hash God of Pixy-misa bestowed upon me +SmuD as a hash. Since it is so close to SMOD, its now part of my handle.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:38 PM (oQmCC)

465 Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 15, 2012 12:18 AM (5J54Q) Umm, no. That was NWA. Posted by: RWC at December 15, 2012 12:31 AM (sqp6o) dude, thank you. please keep your coasts straight.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 08:38 PM (xzxDr)

466 I wonder if they'd smoke themselves internally given that all fiber diet.

Posted by: DaveA at December 14, 2012 08:38 PM (Xefrb)

467 450 I thought that was chicken...

It's good to try new things. And the new things pretty much all taste like chicken.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at December 15, 2012 12:33 AM (hO8IJ)

I tried fried alligator once at a Cajun restaurant in Fort Worth. Looked like whitefish, had the consistency and taste of chicken. Haven't had any since, but I'd love some more.

Still haven't had any calf fries/rocky mountain oysters, though. I just don't have the...you know.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2012 08:38 PM (5J54Q)

468 463 Remember where you saw it first, epo

Posted by: DAve at December 14, 2012 08:38 PM (XDC0v)

469 458 I appreciate your input Grumpy. I believe America is becoming a hugely divided country. It is divided on economic, social, racial and most importantly educational lines. There was a crappy movie called Zardoz in the 70's that addressed these issues. We are smarter than ever and dumber than ever. Our instinct for self preservation is being diluted.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 15, 2012 12:35 AM (JKNDp)

Ever notice how having mobile phones means you never have to memorize phone numbers?

Posted by: model_1066 at December 14, 2012 08:39 PM (E23Tl)

470

Regarding racial divide and responsibility I point to the 95% or more support for Barack Obama by black voters. This is an indefensible ratio of support for the worst president in my lifetime.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 14, 2012 08:39 PM (JKNDp)

471 #453

Today, taxonomy.

Tomorrow, recipes.

Posted by: epobirs at December 14, 2012 08:39 PM (kcfmt)

472 I know far too much about the spectacled bear thanks to Go, Diego, Go! Posted by: Lauren at December 15, 2012 12:37 AM (wsGWu) diego and dora. FML. I've banned them in my house. I couldn't take anymore of the monotone yelling.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 08:39 PM (xzxDr)

473 I was still a big lib after 9/11. I remember listening to the "you're with us or against us" speech in my car and crying because the war-mongers were going to invade every country on the planet. Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 11:58 PM (xzxDr) so what caused you to figgure it out and end up here? ?

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 14, 2012 08:39 PM (jfSqj)

474 Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 15, 2012 12:35 AM (jucos) Ya know, when i was typing it I had a brain fart and couldn 't remember what NWA stood for.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 08:40 PM (sqp6o)

475 461 Yeah, but I'm gonna make up for it by getting an XD9sc too. Consolation.

Posted by: DAve at December 14, 2012 08:40 PM (XDC0v)

476 Isn't the alcohol limit from fermentation something like 12%? Then the yeast gets drunk and wraps its Corvette around a telephone pole? Posted by: model_1066 at December 15, 2012 12:27 AM (E23Tl) They get the really high proof by fractional crystallization until they get the desired minimum percentage of ethanol. That way is is technically not "distilled."

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 14, 2012 08:41 PM (sZTYJ)

477 epobirs, well on a day like this. We really need a silly fluffy video or two or three.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:41 PM (oQmCC)

478

Posted by: Weirddave at December 14, 2012 11:53 PM (aH+zP)

Oooh, so jealous of all the wheels. Your wife is fortunate to have a husband who appreciates what she does. In fairness to John, he was always fondly bemused by my fiber addiction.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at December 14, 2012 08:41 PM (wbeNt)

479 I don't get the whole marsupial thing Newborns shouldn't look like hairless worms And what's with that weird Platypus thing on the other side? Laying eggs? wtf? These guys really need to get with the ol' Mammal program..

Posted by: TexasJew at December 14, 2012 08:41 PM (lD8ju)

480
Not 100 percent sure, but assuming so. Hell, i'm watching a channel with Tanya Harding as one of the stars. Probably 5 bucks to run an advert.

Posted by: George Lucasses at December 15, 2012 12:21 AM (sqp6o)

Ms Harding really screwed up by trying to take out Nancy Kerrigan. If she hadn't done that, she could have been invited to the White House where Billy Jeff would have fallen in love with her, married her, and then she would have become the First Lady.

The network is TruTV. MrsCaniac loves watching those forensic shows on that channel, and yes, I sleep with one eye open.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 08:42 PM (Zd/NW)

481 Anyone have some good Kangaroo stuffing recipes? Wanna try something new this year....

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 14, 2012 08:43 PM (BVkEs)

482 I've had alligator a couple of times, all deep-fried and served with dipping sauces, which makes it hard to distinguish from chicken nuggets.

I don't think I've had anything really weird lately. Tried a new brewpub tonight; pretty average food but the pumpkin ale was good.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 14, 2012 08:43 PM (hO8IJ)

483 Our instinct for self preservation is being diluted. Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 15, 2012 12:35 AM (JKNDp) plus Ã§a change, plus c'est la mÃªme chose Throughout history, poverty (and stupidity) is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded Â— here and there, now and then Â— are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty ... This is known as Â“bad luck.Â” ~Robert A. Heinlein

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 08:44 PM (jts1f)

484 You gonna stuff a 'roo with a Joey? Crikies mate!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:44 PM (oQmCC)

485 so what caused you to figgure it out and end up here? ? Posted by: Jake in ID at December 15, 2012 12:39 AM (jfSqj) long long story. massive conversion from rabid feminist lefty social constructionist pagan/tarot-reading/buddhist environmentalist academic to a devout Catholic pro-life, fiscally and socially conservative homeschooling SAHM of 3. So I guess I would have to say the short answer is God.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 08:45 PM (xzxDr)

486 Going to the matinee (sp) tomorrow because my bud has to watch the daughters while wifey goes to the funshow and gets him a Beretta Storm in .40. It's supposed to be a surprise...yeah, it's not.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 08:45 PM (sqp6o)

487 They get the really high proof by fractional crystallization until they get the desired minimum percentage of ethanol. That way is is technically not "distilled."

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 15, 2012 12:41 AM (sZTYJ)

What percentage is that? I searched on 'strongest beer' and found Armageddon, which is 65% ABV using a freezer-fermentation process. Yikes!

Posted by: model_1066 at December 14, 2012 08:45 PM (E23Tl)

488 464 Grumpy the Younger, the Hash God of Pixy-misa bestowed upon me +SmuD as a hash. Since it is so close to SMOD, its now part of my handle. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 12:38 AM (oQmCC) Sweet serendipity ... nice

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 08:45 PM (jts1f)

489 Tried a new brewpub tonight; pretty average food but the pumpkin ale was good. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at December 15, 2012 12:43 AM (hO8IJ) last time I was in a brew pub I had philly cheesesteak eggrolls. they were awesome.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 08:45 PM (xzxDr)

490 RWC I love my Storm. Got a 9mm one. Put an Aim-Point on it. Real fun to shoot.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:46 PM (oQmCC)

491 I've had kangaroo before. Maybe is was just the cut but it was very very red meat

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 14, 2012 08:46 PM (sZTYJ)

492 461 Yeah, but I'm gonna make up for it by getting an XD9sc too. Consolation. Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 12:40 AM (XDC0v) that is a XD9 sub compact? not an XDM?

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 14, 2012 08:47 PM (jfSqj)

493 482 I've had alligator a couple of times, all deep-fried and served with dipping sauces, which makes it hard to distinguish from chicken nuggets.

I don't think I've had anything really weird lately. Tried a new brewpub tonight; pretty average food but the pumpkin ale was good.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at December 15, 2012 12:43 AM (hO8IJ)

There's a brewpub in Appleton, WI that makes a pumpkin stout that is so delicious, it would make a grown man cry.

Posted by: model_1066 at December 14, 2012 08:47 PM (E23Tl)

494 Roo is one of those meats done just right is tasty but the difference between just right and inedible crap is measured in seconds of time and degrees of temp ... not to mention the arcana of proper prep.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 08:49 PM (jts1f)

495 oh man, why am I still awake? I have to go to sleep now but I am not at all tired. I'll see you guys soon. I'm down for the recipe wars tomorrow!

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 08:49 PM (xzxDr)

496 Take care elizabethe and sweet dreams.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:49 PM (oQmCC)

497

Posted by: rabidsquirrel at December 15, 2012 12:15 AM (Ujyht)

So did you take the cash? These details need answered. Also, do you happen to have such a valuable recipe on hand?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at December 14, 2012 08:49 PM (wbeNt)

498 good night anna. good night bears. good night noises everywhere.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 14, 2012 08:50 PM (xzxDr)

499 Roo is one of those meats done just right is tasty but the difference between just right and inedible crap is measured in seconds of time and degrees of temp ... not to mention the arcana of proper prep. Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 15, 2012 12:49 AM (jts1f) You gotta eat them before they eat YOU!

Posted by: Michael J."Crocodile" Dundee at December 14, 2012 08:50 PM (sZTYJ)

500 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 12:46 AM (oQmCC) If you don't mind, how much did you pay?

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 08:50 PM (sqp6o)

501 495 oh man, why am I still awake? I have to go to sleep now but I am not at all tired.

I'll see you guys soon.

I'm down for the recipe wars tomorrow!

Posted by: elizabethe at December 15, 2012 12:49 AM (xzxDr)

All my recipes end with 'add alcohol, and stir'!

Posted by: model_1066 at December 14, 2012 08:50 PM (E23Tl)

502 hello from Arizona

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at December 14, 2012 08:50 PM (6DWJ1)

503 Calling it a night, folks. Been fun. Catch you further down the trail.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2012 08:51 PM (5J54Q)

504 436
So.....

Which is the biggest boost for these "artists"?....
a grammy....
getting into the hall of fame.... or.....
their unexpected demise.... ala Whitney Houston. Big sales all around, but, which is the best for the bottom line?

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at December 15, 2012 12:28 AM (LMtDw)

It is all three. Bonnie Raitt sold a decent amount of albums back in the 80's, but when she won the Grammy, her career took off with the mainstream.

The Hall of Fame is a little harder to gauge, but when someone you never have heard of makes the HOF, they get a nice bump in sales.

Death though, that is the biggie. Elvis and Michael Jackson were cash poor at the time of their deaths, but the huge influx of cash at their deaths allowed their families to hold on to their assets, and that is where the real cash is. Jackson owned the Beatle's catalog, but had to leverage it, with the influx, the lien on it goes away, and Jackson's kids get to grow up with Papa Joe beating their asses.

Hey TJ!

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 08:51 PM (Zd/NW)

505 Going to the matinee (sp) tomorrow because my bud has to watch the daughters while wifey goes to the funshow and gets him a Beretta Storm in .40. It's supposed to be a surprise...yeah, it's not. Posted by: RWC at December 15, 2012 12:45 AM (sqp6o) full size or compact? or sub compact? anything outher than full size .40 have some snappy recoil, in my opinion

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 14, 2012 08:52 PM (jfSqj)

506 RWC I bought mine when they first came out. Since then the price has risen about $300 if the Beretta web-site is to be believed.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:52 PM (oQmCC)

507

weird things I have eaten:

Most recent spiced pig blood in Mexico.

Ostrich

Buffalo

Aligator

3 Tequila worms, more of a grub really. I bolted them

I think I would puke if I an a raw oyster.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 14, 2012 08:52 PM (JKNDp)

508 Why do I keep hearing the argument, that it's useless to have a gun to defend yourself against govt oppression because our govt is so well armed. I seriously don't get this reasoning, tactical nuks or drones, I still think it would be very hard for an oppressive govt. to win an all out civil war in this country.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 14, 2012 08:52 PM (NzBQO)

509 Yikes! 504 comments already!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2012 08:52 PM (kaalw)

510 Jake the Storm is a carbine. 16in barrel and a stock, bull-pup.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:53 PM (oQmCC)

511 I consider eating squid / calimari weird also.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 14, 2012 08:53 PM (JKNDp)

512 long long story. massive conversion from rabid feminist lefty social constructionist pagan/tarot-reading/buddhist environmentalist academic to a devout Catholic pro-life, fiscally and socially conservative homeschooling SAHM of 3. So I guess I would have to say the short answer is God. Posted by: elizabethe at December 15, 2012 12:45 AM (xzxDr) really? is your mom a pastor? if she s I think we dated

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 08:53 PM (Z9EHQ)

513 499 Roo You gotta eat them before they eat YOU! Posted by: Michael J."Crocodile" Dundee at December 15, 2012 12:50 AM (sZTYJ) Blimey mate, I had no idea how impressive they could be. Most are not intimidating but the Bid Red is a monster.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 08:56 PM (jts1f)

514 Does anyone else thing it is cool our entire class of animal is named for boobs?

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 14, 2012 08:56 PM (JKNDp)

515 Jake the Storm is a carbine. 16in barrel and a stock, bull-pup. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 12:53 AM (oQmCC) Pretty sure the Storm is also a pistol, I think the pistol and carbine will share mags in the same caliber

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 14, 2012 08:56 PM (jfSqj)

516 508 that argument comes from the same crowd that worships government in the first place, unsurprisingly they claim "it's useless to resist"

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at December 14, 2012 08:56 PM (6DWJ1)

517 Regarding racial divide and responsibility I point to the 95% or more support for Barack Obama by black voters. This is an indefensible ratio of support for the worst president in my lifetime.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 15, 2012 12:39 AM (JKNDp)

Sorry to say Dan, but you're racism is barley below the surface. You see the reason African Americans vote almost exclusively for the Democrat Party is because of a careful and studied weighing of the issues.

Posted by: cm9000 at December 14, 2012 08:56 PM (vfB2N)

518 chemjeff, the Borg say that also. "Resistance is futile."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:57 PM (oQmCC)

519 Posted by: Jake in ID at December 15, 2012 12:52 AM (jfSqj) Full size. I've told her to make sure it's the full size. It's for her hubby, who is a Devil Dog, not her. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 12:52 AM (oQmCC) I'm seeing the .40 for 470 including two extra mags on GunBroker.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 08:57 PM (sqp6o)

520 Why couldn't our species have been called homo mammalian sapien, essentially smart boob man?

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 14, 2012 08:57 PM (JKNDp)

521 There's a brewpub in Appleton, WI that makes a pumpkin stout that is so delicious, it would make a grown man cry.

Stone Cellar? Or is there another one?

I miss Wisconsin.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 14, 2012 08:58 PM (hO8IJ)

522 Jake. The CX-4 Storm by Beretta will use the magazines for the Model 92 and Model 96. The .45cal version can use the Beretta Cougar magazines.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 08:58 PM (oQmCC)

523 anna yup

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at December 14, 2012 08:58 PM (6DWJ1)

524 510 Jake the Storm is a carbine. 16in barrel and a stock, bull-pup. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 12:53 AM (oQmCC) Oh, you have the carbine? I was talking pistol.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 08:59 PM (sqp6o)

525 There's a brewpub in Appleton, WI that makes a pumpkin stout that is so delicious, it would make a grown man cry. Stone Cellar? Or is there another one? I miss Wisconsin. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at December 15, 2012 12:58 AM (hO8IJ) contrary to popular opinion, making a grown man cry is not as hard as you may think.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 08:59 PM (Z9EHQ)

526 yo yo yo

Posted by: fluffy, cornball Skandi at December 14, 2012 09:00 PM (z9HTb)

527 RWC, that is a pretty good deal. I guess its a bit used? The high strength polymer firing mechanism is rugged. Except for the barrel, bolt, a few screws, and springs the whole weapon is polymer.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 09:00 PM (oQmCC)

528 Full size. I've told her to make sure it's the full size. It's for her hubby, who is a Devil Dog, not her. Posted by: RWC at December 15, 2012 12:57 AM (sqp6o) good because I think .40 is not much fun to shoot in a compact or subcompact. Full size only in .40

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 14, 2012 09:01 PM (jfSqj)

529 hi fluffy how fluffs the fluffster

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at December 14, 2012 09:01 PM (6DWJ1)

530 fyi, I recently read an article claiming t was pandas that were the cause of Custer's loss at Little Big Horn. Apparently he had a pair of pandas guarding his flank and the turned yellow and ran off at the first sight of the indians leaving him completely exposed. lazy and cowardly. fyi

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 09:02 PM (Z9EHQ)

531 We are smarter than ever and dumber than ever. Our instinct for self preservation is being diluted.

Have patience.

Posted by: Natural Selection at December 14, 2012 09:02 PM (G0eua)

532 508 Why do I keep hearing the argument, that it's useless to have a gun to defend yourself against govt oppression because our govt is so well armed. I seriously don't get this reasoning, tactical nuks or drones, I still think it would be very hard for an oppressive govt. to win an all out civil war in this country.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 15, 2012 12:52 AM (NzBQO)

Tactical nukes aren't all that good useful if you want to be habitable. Among other things, like justifying that you are on the right side as you irradiate your own people and cities.

Posted by: buzzion at December 14, 2012 09:02 PM (GULKT)

533 Where, oh where, did we abandon common sense to the supposed demands of criminal forensics?

The kids are dead. Ditto the teachers.

The perp is dead and identified.

No other persons are known to be perps. There's no evidence of more than one shooter.

We know the names of the teacher/s in the class, and the students themselves.

A headcount has established all the surviving students and faculty.

We thus know the names of the missing.

A thousand photos have been taken of the crime scene. We have oral testimony of hundreds on-site.

IOW: We don't need no steenkin' blood trajectories to understand that a perp killed the kids and the school personnel.

So: why are the police NOT allowing the kids' bodies to be passed onto coroners and thence to their grieving parents?

In the UK school killings of fifteen years ago, the parents were allowed to sit with their dead children on the site, before they were carried off to the coroner.

So...why again are we Americans being subjected to officious technicalities when human feelings are sidelined ----especially when the forensics will yield NO useful evidence???

Is this another case of "CSI" having overrun reality???

Posted by: Jim Sonweed at December 14, 2012 09:03 PM (9gW0q)

534 >>>Isn't the alcohol limit from fermentation something like 12%? Then the yeast gets drunk and wraps its Corvette around a telephone pole? You can squeeze up to 18 maybe even 20 out of some strains that served in the Navy

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 09:03 PM (GE1+K)

535 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 12:58 AM (oQmCC) Aargh. You even said CX4. Reading comprehension, i lack it on Fridays. So the 92 mags work with it? I heard they look and act alike (but their cousins...identical cousins all the way...) Serious, didn't think they were interchangeable.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 09:03 PM (sqp6o)

536 em9000, Never before has theDemocraqt party received this support or turnout from the black community. There are many middleclass blacks who cannot possibly share the economic, social or political beliefs of Barack Obama. Nor will I succumb to the racist epithet the left likes to bandy about. Many black preachers came out against BO for his positon on gay marriage. The unemployment rates are higher for us all but especially among blacks. Don't go there.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 14, 2012 09:03 PM (JKNDp)

537 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 12:58 AM (oQmCC) oops, wrong mag. I knew they would use a pistol mag. that would be a hoot to shoot

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 14, 2012 09:04 PM (jfSqj)

538 531 We are smarter than ever and dumber than ever. Our instinct for self preservation is being diluted. Have patience. Posted by: Natural Selection at December 15, 2012 01:02 AM (G0eua) Succinctness ... you has it

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 09:04 PM (jts1f)

539 531 We are smarter than ever and dumber than ever. Our instinct for self preservation is being diluted. Have patience. Posted by: Natural Selection at December 15, 2012 01:02 AM (G0eua) Succinctness ... you has it Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 15, 2012 01:04 AM (jts1f) the incompetents are just building up steam for the downhill rush.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 09:05 PM (Z9EHQ)

540 502 hello from Arizona

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at December 15, 2012 12:50 AM (6DWJ1)

What the heck are you doing in Arizona? And what part?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2012 09:06 PM (kaalw)

541 ...why again are we Americans being subjected to officious technicalities when human feelings are sidelined ----especially when the forensics will yield NO useful evidence???

Government "solutions" are one-size-fits-all.

Posted by: Natural Selection at December 14, 2012 09:07 PM (G0eua)

542 516 508 that argument comes from the same crowd that worships government in the first place, unsurprisingly they claim "it's useless to resist"

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at December 15, 2012 12:56 AM (6DWJ1)

They believe in the "benevolent dictator".

Cue to 5:04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xldzMVL6Iqk

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 09:07 PM (Zd/NW)

543 Posted by: RWC at December 15, 2012 12:57 AM (sqp6o) good because I think .40 is not much fun to shoot in a compact or subcompact. Full size only in .40 Posted by: Jake in ID at December 15, 2012 01:01 AM (jfSqj) A dick PO tried to sell my ex a .40 Glock for her first pistol. "hon, he's just trying to unload it"

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 09:08 PM (sqp6o)

544 Evening Morons. and the Ette

Posted by: Zakn at December 14, 2012 09:08 PM (Bvf82)

545 520 Why couldn't our species have been called homo mammalian sapien, essentially smart boob man?

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 15, 2012 12:57 AM (JKNDp)

Sweetie, in my experience, most men are just plain boobs. But YMMV.

Posted by: tcn at December 14, 2012 09:08 PM (VLG62)

546 >>>Government "solutions" are one-size-fits-all. More like one size fits none, we acknowledge that, you should just be thankful for what you get.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 09:09 PM (GE1+K)

547 the incompetents are just building up steam for the downhill rush. Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 01:05 AM (Z9EHQ) Once more unto the breach my friend.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 09:10 PM (jts1f)

548 >>> essentially smart boob man? you've seen men be smart around boobs? Were they gay?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 09:10 PM (GE1+K)

549 The CX-4 is real fun to shoot. Very accurate. Aim-point is because in the dark I want to cheat and precisely shoot the moving shadows.

Yes the 92 magazines work just fine in my 9mm Storm. There is even a 20rd LE/Government only magazine made by Beretta in 9mm. It should work also.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 09:11 PM (oQmCC)

550 Having stirred the pot again I think I will retire. Goodnight all.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 14, 2012 09:11 PM (JKNDp)

551 Boobs are nature's way of temporarily suspending male intelligence.

Posted by: Natural Selection at December 14, 2012 09:12 PM (G0eua)

552
contrary to popular opinion, making a grown man cry is not as hard as you may think.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 12:59 AM (Z9EHQ)

You damn right. Years ago my kitteh got pissed at me after I gave him a pill, he jumped up and swatted at one of my danglies, I cried it hurt so much. MrsCaniac cried too, but her's were tears of laughter. As I said earlier, I sleep with one eye open.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 09:12 PM (Zd/NW)

553 I've heard and read as little about the CT tragedy as possible. My brain and emotions just can't process any more. Every single day, I've thought about how every single major institution in the West has been corrupted to some degree - the government, the universities, the media, the Church, professional sports - every fucking thing is rotten. That's bad enough. To dwell on the deaths of little kids who were looking forward to Santa - I can't stand it. Reading the thread about the BBC pedophile was bad enough. I feel so emotionally exhausted, I've been looking at Food Network recipes and Amazon and vids like puppies in the snow - because I just can't stand the sewer out there. I can't stand the thought that things are going to get much worse than they are now, because now sucks.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 14, 2012 09:12 PM (BStAJ)

554 Hi chemjeff - welcome to Sky Harbor. No giant, cursed horse but if you're in terminal 4 there is some nice mosaic work on the large black columns. The artists had local school children "make stuff" and used the tiles / impressions in the columns...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 09:13 PM (gh+mp)

555 Beck covered the Hobbit today and spun it up with some C.S. Lewis to turn it into Christian allegory. Having read all of the works of both, it is overt with Lewis but I do not see it in Tolkien.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 09:13 PM (jts1f)

556 >>>because now sucks. As the Mayans Predicted.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 09:14 PM (GE1+K)

557 cthulhu, visiting a friend long day of traveling good night

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at December 14, 2012 09:15 PM (6DWJ1)

558 >>>but I do not see it in Tolkien. Tolkien has admitted as much.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 09:15 PM (GE1+K)

559 The Mayans could not even predict their own end. Now Nostradamus is another story. Just as full of shit, but another story.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 09:15 PM (jts1f)

560 486 Watch out RWC that's the definition of a "straw purchase" illegal in 50 states.

Posted by: DAve at December 14, 2012 09:15 PM (XDC0v)

561 em9000, Never before has theDemocraqt party received this support or turnout from the black community. There are many middleclass blacks who cannot possibly share the economic, social or political beliefs of Barack Obama. Nor will I succumb to the racist epithet the left likes to bandy about. Many black preachers came out against BO for his positon on gay marriage. The unemployment rates are higher for us all but especially among blacks. Don't go there.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 15, 2012 01:03 AM (JKNDp)

Dan, I was attempting satire, I don't think you are a racist. But you may be a Right-wing extremist who should be monitored by DHS.

Posted by: cm9000 at December 14, 2012 09:15 PM (vfB2N)

562 night chemjeff - safe travels.

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 09:16 PM (gh+mp)

563 because I just can't stand the sewer out there. I can't stand the thought that things are going to get much worse than they are now, because now sucks. Posted by: Donna V. at December 15, 2012 01:12 AM (BStAJ) ----------------------------------------------------------- Fred Hammond on You Tube for me. I can't make sense of any of this either. I just can't.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 14, 2012 09:17 PM (jucos)

564 Night and be safe chemjeff. Enjoy the meteor shower, perhaps you will get kidnapped by some Orion slave girls.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 09:18 PM (oQmCC)

565 521 There's a brewpub in Appleton, WI that makes a pumpkin stout that is so delicious, it would make a grown man cry.

Stone Cellar? Or is there another one?

I miss Wisconsin.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at December 15, 2012 12:58 AM (hO8IJ)

I believe it was called Johnny-O's...and yes, making a grown man cry these days could be accomplished by the cancellation of a stupid TV show. We have grown weak.

Posted by: model_1066 at December 14, 2012 09:18 PM (E23Tl)

566 560 486 Watch out RWC that's the definition of a "straw purchase" illegal in 50 states.

Its only a strawman when the recipient would otherwise be unqualified.

Posted by: Natural Selection at December 14, 2012 09:19 PM (G0eua)

567

Posted by cm9000...

Hahahahahahha. Yeah. Careful consideration of the issues. In other words... free shit paid for by the taxpayers... Gotcha. Don't feel bad cm9000... that's why all the white single baby mommas and the hispanic single baby mommas voted Obama also... just can't get enough of that free shit. It's really not a racial issue, it's more of an... I don't want to take personal responsibility for myself and my own actions issue.

Free housing. Free Medicaid. Free EBT card that looks like a credit card. Free heating assistance. Free cell phone. Free internet access. Shit man, the list is probably a lot longer than this but, silly me, I don't collect all the free shit from the state so I'm not as informed as one who does....

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at December 14, 2012 09:19 PM (LMtDw)

568 cm9000 I think the scotch has affected my satire detection device. It did occur to me after my post you were being satirical. Sleep well. That DHS thing is satire too, right? LOL

Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 14, 2012 09:20 PM (JKNDp)

569 533 Where, oh where, did we abandon common sense to the supposed demands of criminal forensics?

The kids are dead. Ditto the teachers.

The perp is dead and identified.

No other persons are known to be perps. There's no evidence of more than one shooter.

We know the names of the teacher/s in the class, and the students themselves.

A headcount has established all the surviving students and faculty.

We thus know the names of the missing.

A thousand photos have been taken of the crime scene. We have oral testimony of hundreds on-site.

IOW: We don't need no steenkin' blood trajectories to understand that a perp killed the kids and the school personnel.

So: why are the police NOT allowing the kids' bodies to be passed onto coroners and thence to their grieving parents?

In the UK school killings of fifteen years ago, the parents were allowed to sit with their dead children on the site, before they were carried off to the coroner.

So...why again are we Americans being subjected to officious technicalities when human feelings are sidelined ----especially when the forensics will yield NO useful evidence???

Is this another case of "CSI" having overrun reality???

Posted by: Jim Sonweed at December 15, 2012 01:03 AM (9gW0q)

A guy jumped off a bridge onto the interstate here in town yesterday morning. 4 cars hit his body, the interstate was shut down for 6 hours while they processed the crime scene. The police are following protocol, it's not the humane thing to do, but they have to do it. They have to make sure what happened is what happened. It sucks, but the second they don't follow the proper procedures, someone goes free. Plus, there are 28 bodies. If they take just 30 minutes per body, that's 14 hours. I have a feeling they take more time than that with each body.

It isn't CSI where the process the crime scene, interview the witnesses, and make an arrest in an hour.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 09:20 PM (Zd/NW)

570 But you may be a Right-wing extremist who should be monitored by DHS.

Aren't we all?

Take care, everyone.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 14, 2012 09:21 PM (hO8IJ)

571 I am not sure how it happened, however, according to my spam in box, the ukranian ladies have learned I am something of a catch and have been sending me pictures of themselves scantily clad in suggestive poses offering me companionship. it seems to have gone unmentioned in the ukraine that while I am something of a catch I am caught.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 09:22 PM (Z9EHQ)

572 Good Night, Heather making radish beer ... or something like that ...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 09:22 PM (gh+mp)

573 But you may be a Right-wing extremist who should be monitored by DHS. Aren't we all? Take care, everyone. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at December 15, 2012 01:21 if you are not ar rwe in the eyes of big sis you are doing something wrong.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 09:23 PM (Z9EHQ)

574 All that crime scene analysis will also be evidence in the dozens of inevitable civil lawsuits.

Posted by: Natural Selection at December 14, 2012 09:23 PM (G0eua)

575 Free housing. Free Medicaid. Free EBT card that looks like a credit card. Free heating assistance. Free cell phone. Free internet access. Shit man, the list is probably a lot longer than this but, silly me, I don't collect all the free shit from the state so I'm not as informed as one who does.

You confuse me, good Sir.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 14, 2012 09:23 PM (z9HTb)

576 558 >>>but I do not see it in Tolkien. Tolkien has admitted as much. Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 15, 2012 01:15 AM (GE1+K) Tolkien was clearly a devout Christian but I have not seen anything about categorizing his works that way and if he did feel that way, he was way subtle. Upon reflection, the only thing I can think of is Gandalf's return as the White being equated to the resurrection and his eventual journey to Valinor being equated to the ascension. However, that seems a bit of a stretch to me. Did I miss another angle?

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 09:24 PM (jts1f)

577 Free shit subverts me. But, you can't fool mother nature forever.

Posted by: Natural Selection at December 14, 2012 09:24 PM (G0eua)

578 Watch out RWC that's the definition of a "straw purchase" illegal in 50 states. Its only a strawman when the recipient would otherwise be unqualified. Posted by: Natural Selection at December 15, 2012 01:19 AM (G0eua) that is way I read it, wife can buy gun as present for hubby, as long as the hubby is not a prohibeted person

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 14, 2012 09:25 PM (jfSqj)

579 560 486 Watch out RWC that's the definition of a "straw purchase" illegal in 50 states. Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 01:15 AM (XDC0v) True. But i told her to get it and then we'll pay the $20 transfer fee when he is actually given it.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 09:25 PM (sqp6o)

580 Did I miss another angle? Michael London ?

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 09:25 PM (gh+mp)

581 Free housing. Free Medicaid. Free EBT card that looks like a credit card. Free heating assistance. Free cell phone. Free internet access. Shit man, the list is probably a lot longer than this but, silly me, I don't collect all the free shit from the state so I'm not as informed as one who does. You confuse me, good Sir. Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 15, 2012 01:23 AM (z9HTb) when the free stuff runs out it is going to look like the superdome after katrina in every blue city and state.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 09:26 PM (Z9EHQ)

582 Sauraman wore white too and he was corrupt creep in league with Sauron. That always confused me.

Posted by: Natural Selection at December 14, 2012 09:26 PM (G0eua)

583 566 ATF Form 4473 Question 11a says my definition of a strawman purchase is correct. See for yourself: http://tinyurl.com/cb5vmwz

Posted by: DAve at December 14, 2012 09:26 PM (XDC0v)

584 you guys should do the purchasing stuff somewhere else.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 09:27 PM (Z9EHQ)

585 For me, it's been a very good day.

Posted by: Pleased to meet you...hope you guessed.. at December 14, 2012 09:28 PM (9gW0q)

586 Just looked it up to make sure DAve...i don't even need to do the transfer through an FFL. As long as they are both VA residents. ( granted, ATF makes shit up as they go, so I will still tell her to pay the extra 20.)

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 09:29 PM (sqp6o)

587 >>>However, that seems a bit of a stretch to me. Did I miss another angle? Look up the wiki for the secret fire. Therefore IlÃºvatar gave to their vision Being, and set it amid the Void, and the Secret Fire was sent to burn at the heart of the World; and it was called EÃ¤. Â— "Valaquenta", The Silmarillion "You cannot pass," he said. Â… "I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. The dark fire will not avail you, flame of UdÃ»n. Go back to the Shadow! You cannot pass."

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 09:29 PM (GE1+K)

588 574 All that crime scene analysis will also be evidence in the dozens of inevitable civil lawsuits.

Posted by: Natural Selection at December 15, 2012 01:23 AM (G0eua)

And the commissions that will be assembled. The town's council will have a hearing. The CT senate and house will have hearings. And of course, the US Senate and House will have hearings.

Plus, the media demands all the details. If all the details don't come out or are glossed over, then the whackos will come out with the conspiracy theories.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 09:29 PM (Zd/NW)

589 Alright the instructions for question 11a say it's alright if it's a gift. I was pleasantly surprised to be wrong. Good to know-

Posted by: DAve at December 14, 2012 09:29 PM (XDC0v)

590 Wow we have gone and done the time warp. Jumped ahead four days.

From the Mega-Millions Media Center
There was one jackpot winning ticket in the December 18, 2012 Mega Millions drawing. The winning ticket was bought in California. The jackpot was an estimated $35 million.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 09:29 PM (oQmCC)

591 when the free stuff runs out it is going to look like the superdome after katrina in every blue city and state.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 01:26 AM (Z9EHQ)

I should probably go buy more ammo...I'm down to about 400 rounds of .45 and 300 rounds of .357...maybe 2000 rounds of .22 and 500 rounds of 12 gauge.

Posted by: model_1066 at December 14, 2012 09:30 PM (E23Tl)

592 Never tried the fancy beer, but just ordered a sampler of some fancy olive oil from some California outfit, Telecuma olive oil. It's a Christmas gift. Somebody at the Maggie's Farm blog was raving about how great the stuff is - cheaper than imported olive oil, and according to him, you can use it in place of butter when you're making things like mashed potatoes and it tastes wonderful. I had no idea of what to get my sister, who is really hard to shop for, and I normally never give food as a present, but hey, it's a bit of change from buying her a sweater or something. The sampler is $24 for three different kinds of olive oil, which isn't outrageously expensive, although it's much more than my usual Trader Joe's olive oil. Have any of you tried the higher end olive oil? Do you think it's much different?

Posted by: Donna V. at December 14, 2012 09:30 PM (BStAJ)

593 A gift is not "on behalf". On behalf would be if the recipient gave you the money to purchase it. Gifts you buy with your money, then give away.

Its a fine line distinction.

Posted by: Natural Selection at December 14, 2012 09:31 PM (G0eua)

594 Anyone hear where the perp got the AR15?

Posted by: navybrat at December 14, 2012 09:31 PM (Ty7ja)

595 #520

Then we'd have to have subspecies to recognize ass men, leg men, and the rare clavicle men.

Posted by: epobirs at December 14, 2012 09:32 PM (kcfmt)

596 Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 01:29 AM (oQmCC) That's astounding!

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 09:32 PM (gh+mp)

597 Saruman changed from Saruman the White to Saruman of Many Colors Saruman: White serves as a beginning. White cloth may be dyed. The white page can be overwritten; and the white light can be broken.' Gandalf: In which case it is no longer white,' said I. 'And he that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom.' Saruman was once wise but became enamored of his own cleverness and hubris led him into falling under the spell of Sauron and turning to darkness. Damn, I am such a geek.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 09:32 PM (jts1f)

598 >>>Sauraman wore white too and he was corrupt creep in league with Sauron. That always confused me. The color of wizards determined there magical leanings and power. Radagast for instance was preoccupied with the earth and natural things and therefore was brown. Sauraman was all colors at maximum intensity hence white. Gandalf was all colors at lesser intensity hence grey.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 09:33 PM (GE1+K)

599 589 Alright the instructions for question 11a say it's alright if it's a gift. I was pleasantly surprised to be wrong. Good to know- Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 01:29 AM (XDC0v) But don't you get the warm fuzzies knowing that everyone here is breaking the law at least ten times a day. And they're still piling on the new laws/restrictions. That eggnog better have 10.87977 percent milkfat in it...otherwise, you're a felon.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 09:34 PM (sqp6o)

600 #530

Intel failure on Custer's part. His people told him when the Indians got bamboo capability and that this would be used to compromise the pandas. But he would never listen to intel types.

Posted by: epobirs at December 14, 2012 09:34 PM (kcfmt)

601 Anyone hear where the perp got the AR15? Posted by: navybrat at December 15, 2012 01:31 AM (Ty7ja) I heard it was found in a car and registered to his mom.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 09:35 PM (Z9EHQ)

602 Therefore IlÃºvatar gave to their vision Being, and set it amid the Void, and the Secret Fire was sent to burn at the heart of the World; and it was called EÃ¤. Â— "Valaquenta", The Silmarillion "You cannot pass," he said. Â… "I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. The dark fire will not avail you, flame of UdÃ»n. Go back to the Shadow! You cannot pass." Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 15, 2012 01:29 AM (GE1+K) I am hearing the greatest bad ass showdown of all time. I am not seeing a man of peace lay down his life to cleanse the sins of mankind.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 09:35 PM (jts1f)

603 So Fresh and Easy is going under, expanded way too quickly.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 14, 2012 09:35 PM (NzBQO)

604 Anyone hear where the perp got the AR15? Posted by: navybrat at December 15, 2012 01:31 AM (Ty7ja) stole it from his mom, the rifle was in his vehicle, everyone in the school was shot with handguns

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 14, 2012 09:36 PM (jfSqj)

605 Today with regard to the tragedy in Connecticut, Obama said, "And may God bless the memories of these children." Does that strike you as an odd thing to say? I've never heard anybody speak like that before. I'd expect, "may God bless the souls of these children", or "may God bless these children", something along these lines in which the blessing is hoped to somehow land upon these poor children themselves. Not in our memory banks. Is this sort a blessing he's done common somewhere and I have just not heard it before? It just seems very odd to me to seek a blessing for not the person but the memory of him. I've never heard anyone who is a religious person mix up the subjective with the objective like this.

Posted by: Cowboy at December 14, 2012 09:36 PM (WcgMM)

606 Donna V. at December 15, 2012 01:30 AM (BStAJ) Received a gift of local goodies ... Queen Creek, AZ has a nice olive grove. It was good ... Not sure about the brand you mentioned specifically ...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 09:36 PM (gh+mp)

607 597 Saruman changed from Saruman the White to Saruman of Many Colors -- Saruman of the Rainbow-PUSH coalition: Jobs for the Shire!

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 09:37 PM (Y5I9o)

608 594 Anyone hear where the perp got the AR15? Posted by: navybrat at December 15, 2012 01:31 AM (Ty7ja) Last i heard they were his mother's guns. Very interesting though.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 09:37 PM (sqp6o)

609 #548

There is no better IQ test than when boobs are the prize.

Posted by: epobirs at December 14, 2012 09:37 PM (kcfmt)

610 I really do not want to talk about CT right now. Was on the threads earlier as all the media and the President rushed to be in front of the cameras while being wrong.

And Megyn on Fox interviewing Sophie, a girl from that school, about what happened. And Sophie's mom, what the hades lady you just had to pimp out your kid?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 09:38 PM (oQmCC)

611 >>>I am hearing the greatest bad ass showdown of all time. I am not seeing a man of peace lay down his life to cleanse the sins of mankind. If you had rad the wiki article you'd know the secret fire is an analog for the holy spirit.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 09:38 PM (GE1+K)

612 Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 15, 2012 01:35 AM Ah FK! They have the only microwavable pot stickers that taste worth a damn...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 09:38 PM (gh+mp)

613 ?!?!?

http://tinyurl.com/cxxm3ea

Posted by: Natural Selection at December 14, 2012 09:39 PM (G0eua)

614 Posted by: Cowboy at December 15, 2012 01:36 AM (WcgMM) since BHO has shark eyes and went to Jerimiah Writes church, what do you expect from the narcisist

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 14, 2012 09:39 PM (jfSqj)

615 Man there are some dorks here. And God bless 'em. Saves me a lot of time with backstories and such. Even though my reading list keeps expanding.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 09:40 PM (sqp6o)

616 RWC, I much prefer Elizabeth Moon and P.C. Hodgell.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 09:41 PM (oQmCC)

617 Cowboy at December 15, 2012 01:36 AM (WcgMM) 'May his memory be a blessing' is IIRC a Jewish eulogy.

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 09:41 PM (gh+mp)

618 569 533

"It isn't CSI where the process the crime scene, interview the witnesses, and make an arrest in an hour."

Derrrr. It's ME who thinks TV CSI programs distort the common sense processes that ought to be at work.

Just who is it who "goes free" here? Some unknown perp?

Since when does the later evidence of another perp VITIATE the work of the initial CSI team on the site?

You seem to think that because someone "missed something" that lets the new suspect off.

ALL the CSI programs involve initial investigations that require further investigations AFTER they think they've got the facts, so... where's that leave you?

Posted by: Pleased to meet you...hope you guessed.. at December 14, 2012 09:41 PM (9gW0q)

619 "And may God bless the memories of these children." Does that strike you as an odd thing to say? Yes, it does sound odd. I've thought for quite a while that Obama is neither Christian nor Muslim, but a standard-issue lefty atheist. He might bring himself to mention God (because he realizes that even in our secular society, a openly atheist president is still unacceptable), but "soul" is a reach for him. He doesn't believe we have souls.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 14, 2012 09:41 PM (BStAJ)

620 611 >>>I am hearing the greatest bad ass showdown of all time. I am not seeing a man of peace lay down his life to cleanse the sins of mankind. If you had rad the wiki article you'd know the secret fire is an analog for the holy spirit. Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging -- Tolkein's books are not religious allegory. There is certainly a lot of symbolism in them that can be understood in a Christian light (including badass spiritual showdowns. If you think this isn't part of the Christian imagination, then you have a very poor understanding of Christian history and literature), and Tolkein certainly commented upon potentially Christian themes that appear in his books, but they weren't written with the intent to be "decoded".

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 09:41 PM (Y5I9o)

621 stole it from his mom, the rifle was in his vehicle, everyone in the school was shot with handguns Posted by: Jake in ID at December 15, 2012 01:36 AM (jfSqj) it is / will be interesting to see how the media handles the story if it turns out the ar was ont involved in the school shootings. more correctly I guess it is going to be interesting to see if they tell the truth. if he did not use the ar I am sure obama is stomping around the white mosque kicking over chairs like hitler in his bunker screaming about how hard it is to get people to to what needs to be done for him to grab their guns. stole it from his mom, the rifle was in his vehicle, everyone in the school was shot with handguns Posted by: Jake in ID at December 15, 2012 01:36 AM (jfSqj) er lieÃŸ es im Auto?!

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2012 09:42 PM (Z9EHQ)

622 If you had rad the wiki article you'd know the secret fire is an analog for the holy spirit. Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 15, 2012 01:38 AM (GE1+K) Fair enough, but since I read the Silmarillion and did not get that out of it, I thought I was covered. However, I will take the time to read the Wikipedia article and see what the wisdom of crowds thinks about it.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 09:43 PM (jts1f)

623 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 01:38 AM (oQmCC) Hell yes. I actually sat through 'hope Springs' this evening because it's a lighthearted movie with no death.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 09:43 PM (sqp6o)

624 Schoolteacher with an AR15?
And are they legal in CT?
The whole fucking thing is sad beyond words.
I spent some time today reminding my FB friends that they were slinging the blame everywhere EXCEPT where it should be directed, and that is at the perp. The problem is always something else to these folks. Not enough laws usually. The perp must have broken 20 laws in the first few minutes.

Posted by: navybrat at December 14, 2012 09:44 PM (Ty7ja)

625 Teleprompters say the stupidest things...

Posted by: model_1066 at December 14, 2012 09:45 PM (E23Tl)

626 619 "And may God bless the memories of these children." Does that strike you as an odd thing to say? Yes, it does sound odd.He doesn't believe we have souls. Posted by: Donna V. at December 15, 2012 01:41 AM (BStAJ) -- Eh...there are lots of Christian and non-christian groups that don't believe in souls. That's not as big a deal for me as the totally fake wiping away the tear. Awww...dear leader is so moved that he weeps. Father state sheds a tear for "our children". This is the same guy who lets his real brother live in poverty halfway across the world. What a f^&@-ing hack.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 09:45 PM (Y5I9o)

627 Gandalf himself is not a man, he only looks like one. He is more akin to an angel in human form. Aged and ageless in middle earth for about 2000 years before The Lord of the Rings story.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 09:47 PM (GE1+K)

628 out been a long day

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 14, 2012 09:48 PM (jfSqj)

629 Gandalf himself is not a man, he only looks like one. He is more akin to an angel in human form. Aged and ageless in middle earth for about 2000 years before The Lord of the Rings story. He hath one mighty fine plastic surgeon, now, eh?

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 09:48 PM (gh+mp)

630 My problem with Obama's little speech was how wooden and stilted it was. Not a single gram of real compassion in it. It was the 'Theatre of Caring' performed by a third rate actor.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 09:48 PM (oQmCC)

631 night, Jake in ID ...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 09:49 PM (gh+mp)

632 Eh...there are lots of Christian ... groups that don't believe in souls.

How does that work?

Posted by: Methos at December 14, 2012 09:49 PM (hO9ad)

633 cya Jake

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 09:49 PM (oQmCC)

634 Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 15, 2012 12:52 AM (NzBQO)

You keep hearing that because people make idiotic arguments. The same principle that is applied in theory in this case has been disproved repeatedly through history: Vietnam, Afghanistan (twice in 30 years), etc. There is a big difference between having that force available and actually using it. The USG using even tactical nukes within the country's borders would turn the entire populace against it, even those that supported a (more) repressive regime.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 14, 2012 09:51 PM (svK4p)

635 632 Eh...there are lots of Christian ... groups that don't believe in souls. How does that work? Posted by: Methos at December 15, 2012 01:49 AM (hO9ad) --- Read up on your Reformation history. I don't think the arguments pan out, either biblically or historically/traditionally, but it's not a silly question to raise.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 09:53 PM (Y5I9o)

636 MikeTheMoose ... the wiki even had a reference for the claim that Tolkien described the Secret Fire as being akin to the Holy Spirit ... I will have to look into the book ... Tolkien's World from A to Z: The Complete Guide to Middle-earth" by Robert Foster; published by Ballantine Books of New York. Regardless, I think JeremiadBullfrog was spot on with his comment, "Tolkein certainly commented upon potentially Christian themes that appear in his books, but they weren't written with the intent to be 'decoded.'"

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 09:53 PM (jts1f)

637 #613

A few years back there was a boy complaining of pain in his foot. X-rays revealed a tooth growing there. The doctors speculated that the base cells that became the tooth wandered off from their intended location while he was gestating.

Posted by: epobirs at December 14, 2012 09:53 PM (kcfmt)

638

Cowboy at December 15, 2012 01:36 AM

What would you expect from an atheist?

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 14, 2012 09:54 PM (+9AX9)

639

My problem with Obama's little speech was how wooden and stilted it was. Not a single gram of real compassion in it. It was the 'Theatre of Caring' performed by a third rate actor. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 01:48 AM (oQmCC)

Well, the "third rate actor" has already fooled the majority of voters in this country into believing he's "likable" and "cares about them" much more than Rich and Evil Romney. Those same voters are undoubtably sure that Obama is crying into his pillow tonight because he cares about those dead kids, instead of coolly calculating how this can work to his political advantage.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 14, 2012 09:54 PM (BStAJ)

640 >>>but they weren't written with the intent to be 'decoded.'" Ok

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 09:55 PM (GE1+K)

641 632 Eh...there are lots of Christian ... groups that don't believe in souls. How does that work? Posted by: Methos at December 15, 2012 01:49 AM (hO9ad) While being prepared for seminary I studied comparative religion and eventually ended up a fallen Catholic (not atheist, just unable to ascribe to any given dogma) but I do not recall anything from the reformation proposing that humans did not have souls, at least not by theologians. That would be a fascinating example of cognitive dissonance. Got any references for a seeker of the truth?

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 09:57 PM (jts1f)

642 In other news on our sick/sad declining culture, this pleasant advertisement was in my public library quarterly: "Un-Valentine's Day Party [pic of upside-down heart] What better what to un-celebrate Valentine's Day than with friends at your library? Kinds in grade 6-8, come create unValentines, evil fortune cookies, and dark crafts. Eat broken-hearted snacks with us and sing your favorite heartbreak tunes on karaoke." Stop the world, I want to get off.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 10:00 PM (Y5I9o)

643 Saruman of the Rainbow-PUSH coalition: Jobs for the Shire! Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 15, 2012 01:37 AM (Y5I9o) Sounds good to me!

Posted by: wormtongue at December 14, 2012 10:00 PM (sZTYJ)

644 well played 643! Anyone for a round of ursine versus racoon?

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 10:02 PM (jts1f)

645 longbow versus crossbow?

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 10:02 PM (jts1f)

646 @641:"While being prepared for seminary I studied comparative religion and eventually ended up a fallen Catholic (not atheist, just unable to ascribe to any given dogma) but I do not recall anything from the reformation proposing that humans did not have souls, at least not by theologians. That would be a fascinating example of cognitive dissonance. Got any references for a seeker of the truth? Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 15, 2012 01:57 AM (jts1f) -- Well, I am Catholic, and I'm sorry to hear you fell away. What precipitated that? I guess you might not be too keen on any references for truth-seeking that lead back to the church, then.... Anyway, I know that 7th Day Adventists don't believe in souls, and they're certainly a non-trivial Christian group. They believe a lot of, er..."interesting" things about Catholicism, though... In general, I don't like to go to group X to learn about group Y, esp. when it's pretty obvious that group X fundamentally disagrees with group Y. It doesn't mean group X is wrong, but it usually means you have to sift through a lot of chaff to find serious, intellectually honest arguments, rather than popular, emotionalized sloganeering/proselytization.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 10:06 PM (Y5I9o)

647 hhmmm a coonbow vs ursinebow... I predict it will end badly.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 10:06 PM (oQmCC)

648 629 Gandalf himself is not a man, he only looks like one. He is more akin to an angel in human form. Aged and ageless in middle earth for about 2000 years before The Lord of the Rings story.

He hath one mighty fine plastic surgeon, now, eh?

Posted by: Adriane at December 15, 2012 01:48 AM (gh+mp)

Actually, Gandalf existed before Middle Earth, and was of the same order of beings as Sauron or balrogs (Maiar). He was in the chorus that sung the cosmos that Iluvatar sparked into being.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2012 10:08 PM (kaalw)

649 Grumpy the Younger at December 15, 2012 01:57 AM (jts1f) It was good enough for Kali, though embracing her is folly, She is quite the armful, golly, And she's good enough for me ... Gimme that old time religion!

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 10:08 PM (gh+mp)

650 642 The reference to dark crafts is a sign that you have a Wiccan in the children's section. Filthy rat-people recruiting where children are supposed to be safe to explore

Posted by: DAve at December 14, 2012 10:08 PM (XDC0v)

651 Another not so obvious point. The great evil of middle earth Sauron, was once good and kind of heart. He sought a better world for all. He came to believe it could only happen with more order applied to the world. So he slowly starts the dark descent, becoming more and more morally flexible in order to obtain the power he needs to create his concept of a perfect world, eventually becoming the monster whose will to dominate has no moral limits.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 10:09 PM (GE1+K)

652

JeremiadBullfrog at December 15, 2012 02:06 AM

Try investigating Mormonism for weird stuff. No wonder they are considered a cult.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 14, 2012 10:11 PM (+9AX9)

653 Sauron needs to visit Akihabara and the pachinko parlors. That will take care of him.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 10:11 PM (oQmCC)

654 Derrrr. It's ME who thinks TV CSI programs distort the common sense processes that ought to be at work.

Just who is it who "goes free" here? Some unknown perp?

Since when does the later evidence of another perp VITIATE the work of the initial CSI team on the site?

You seem to think that because someone "missed something" that lets the new suspect off.

ALL the CSI programs involve initial investigations that require further investigations AFTER they think they've got the facts, so... where's that leave you?

Posted by: Pleased to meet you...hope you guessed.. at December 15, 2012 01:41 AM (9gW0q)

I never said there was another suspect. I said that they follow protocol, and if they don't follow protocol, that is when problems arise. According to you, no investigation needs to be done. You and the media have solved the case, so the cops should just quit investigating and turn the bodies over to the parents, or better yet, let the parents come in and see their children where they were killed.

Cripes, when a friend of mine committed suicide, the cops spent 6 hours at the scene going over everything. They have to be thorough, and it's not because of this case, it is because of all their other cases. It is because they want to make sure that they don't cut corners. Was it right for the police to shut the interstate here down for 6 hours during rush hour because some guy jumped off a bridge down on the road below where he was then hit by 4 cars? The cops then declared it a "crime scene". People saw him on the bridge, then watched him jump. But the police still had to investigate even though the cops thought that it was a suicide.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 14, 2012 10:11 PM (Zd/NW)

655 The great evil of middle earth Sauron, was once good and kind of heart. And Hitler liked dogs, so they say ...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 10:12 PM (gh+mp)

656

A few years back there was a boy complaining of pain in his foot. X-rays revealed a tooth growing there. The doctors speculated that the base cells that became the tooth wandered off from their intended location while he was gestating. Posted by: epobirs at December 15, 2012 01:53 AM (kcfmt)

It might was probably the residue from a "vanished twin" - an identical twin that died very early during the pregnancy. The book "Freaks" by Leslie Fiedler has a chapter on people born with extra limbs, a third nipple or a foot sticking out of their torso. Those body parts belonged to their twins. Since I was born an identical twin myself (my twin died 13 hours after we were born and I nearly died myself - I was 2 lbs. 8 oz. at birth) I found that book absolutely terrifying.

That any twins, particularly identical twins, are born whole and healthy is a real miracle. The womb is designed for one baby at a time. A mutliple birth pregnancy is automatically considered high risk. If a twin doesn't end up dying before birth (with the potential of it's body parts fusing onto the body of the viable twin), they are very likely to be born prematurely and extremely underweight. I work in a hospital with a very well-regarded neonatal ICU. Most of the 1 and 2 pound babies in there are twins or triplets (or babies born to drug addicts, but that's a different subject.)

Posted by: Donna V. at December 14, 2012 10:12 PM (BStAJ)

657 Actually, Gandalf existed before Middle Earth, and was of the same order of beings as Sauron or balrogs (Maiar). He was in the chorus that sung the cosmos that Iluvatar sparked into being. Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2012 02:08 AM (kaalw) And to think that I thought I was a little too into Tolkien for a person my age. Impressive lore dude. Now that you mention it, I recall that but did not have that tidbit at my fingertips.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 10:12 PM (jts1f)

658 >>>Actually, Gandalf existed before Middle Earth, and was of the same order of beings as Sauron or balrogs (Maiar). He was in the chorus that sung the cosmos that Iluvatar sparked into being. That was true angelic Gandalf. I was talking about the wizard incarnation.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 10:12 PM (GE1+K)

659 650 642 The reference to dark crafts is a sign that you have a Wiccan in the children's section. Filthy rat-people recruiting where children are supposed to be safe to explore Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 02:08 AM (XDC0v) ---- I just can't stand it when people, any people of any creed, try to go after other people's children. That's just sick and predatory.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 10:13 PM (Y5I9o)

660 Read up on your Reformation history. I don't think the arguments pan out, either biblically or historically/traditionally, but it's not a silly question to raise.

Could you be more specific? I was raised Lutheran and this concept is outside my frame of reference.

Posted by: Methos at December 14, 2012 10:13 PM (hO9ad)

661 Cthulhu is doing op-for research against competing deities. He wants to figure out how to properly marinade them.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 10:13 PM (oQmCC)

662

Donna V. at December 15, 2012 01:54 AM

That was all for show. Like Clinton walking away from a funeral laughing his ass off until he realized there was a camera and then he switched to "How sad I look" in an instant. Fuckin' wanker.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 14, 2012 10:14 PM (+9AX9)

663 "How sad I look" in an instant. Fuckin' wanker. Ron Brown. Killed in a plane crash during official business, IIRC...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 10:15 PM (gh+mp)

664 What he looked like during the Vince Foster funeral, I can not say ...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 10:16 PM (gh+mp)

665 Ron Brown and that 737 with no black boxes. In Yugoslavia. And the airport operator committed suicide soon after the crash.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 10:16 PM (oQmCC)

666 Hopefully he won't show at my funeral ...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 10:16 PM (gh+mp)

667 And Wellstone funeral/circus.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 10:16 PM (oQmCC)

668 Adriane is pure evil now....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 10:17 PM (oQmCC)

669 JeremiadBullfrog ... I was pressed to become a priest and in the search for my calling, the more I examined the big questions, the fewer answers I found in organized religion. I rate myself a spiritual agnostic. I find atheism nothing but another dogma. To say there is no God is as religious (faith based) statement as stating there is a God and the nature of that God is such and such. The "it just happened" crowd are just plain silly but the Church serves itself, not its flock and I am sick unto death of smarmy hypocrites. I respect the truly devout and pious but doubt I will ever have the ability to subscribe with all my heart to any given dogma. However, I continue to seek truth as best I can. Let the Truth of Love be Lighted, Let the Love of Truth shine clear. ~Rush, Hemispehers

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 10:17 PM (jts1f)

670 289 Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2012 11:36 PM (AUeaU) ---------- In case anyone is interested, here is the Ghoul in Chief (article with audio of him speaking while State Senator ) ""That if that fetus, or child, however you want to describe it," http://tinyurl.com/8wubngh

Posted by: Baldy at December 14, 2012 10:17 PM (opS9C)

671 Adriane, your going to turn into a troll now.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 10:18 PM (GE1+K)

672 Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 02:17 AM (oQmCC) And we're making gingerbread cookies later today ... hint, hint, hint ...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 10:18 PM (gh+mp)

673 @652:"Try investigating Mormonism for weird stuff. No wonder they are considered a cult. Posted by: harleycowboy at December 15, 2012 02:11 AM (+9AX9) -- I dunno. "Weird" is a pretty tough term to use. I mean, modern physics--not even contemporary, but from Newton onward--is really, really weird. I mean, seriously, think about gravity: An invisible force that acts no matter how far away you are. And even before that, scientific ideas of motion would be very strange to us: Galileo believed, along with all other scientists of repute of his day, that some objects on earth "naturally" moved in straight lines, whereas objects in the heavens "naturally" moved in circles. Christianity itself was long considered a "death cult" by the Romans because it used the crucifix, one of the worst tortures in the ancient world, as one of its symbols.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 10:19 PM (Y5I9o)

674 661 Cthulhu is doing op-for research against competing deities. He wants to figure out how to properly marinade them. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 02:13 AM (oQmCC) thread winner LMAO

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 10:19 PM (jts1f)

675 And there is a new Hansel unt Gretel movie coming out. Looks like the kids are monster slayers.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 10:19 PM (oQmCC)

676 Roses are red, Violets are blue, Before Santa comes a callin' We need to open that flue ... A flea and a fly in flue, Were trapped! So what did they do? Said the flea, 'let us fly!' Said the fly, 'let us flee!' So they flew through a flaw in the flue ...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 10:23 PM (gh+mp)

677 660 Read up on your Reformation history. I don't think the arguments pan out, either biblically or historically/traditionally, but it's not a silly question to raise. Could you be more specific? I was raised Lutheran and this concept is outside my frame of reference. Posted by: Methos at December 15, 2012 02:13 AM (hO9ad) --- Eh..it gets a bit iffy. You can check the wikipedia page on "soul sleep", but as with most religion items on wikipedia it doesn't do justice to the issues involved in what various groups understand by the words "soul" or "spirit" in reference to human beings. It also gets connected up to issues of whether or not purgatory exists/is necessary, issues of intercession of saints, matters like that.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 10:24 PM (Y5I9o)

678

And the airport operator committed suicide soon after the crash.

Sure he did. Just like Vince Foster.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 14, 2012 10:24 PM (+9AX9)

679 While Mormons have some 'interesting' ideas, they are nothing compared to many other religions when it comes to weird. JeremiadBullfrog makes a great point about modern physics. While the unplumbed mysteries of gravity are manifest, quantum mechanics and string theory are outright bizarre. The universe is more amazing than we can imagine. PS. I appear to live near a Mormon colony in Michigan with tons of neighbors who are of that persuasion. As a group, they are the nicest most reliable people I have ever had the pleasure to associate with despite their 'interesting' ideas.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 10:25 PM (jts1f)

680 #656

I used to have that book! Also, Leslie Fiedler was frequently referenced in Philip Jose Farmer stories as a kind of ongoing in-joke. I guess they were buddies or something. I was surprised then to find out he was a real person.

I used to have several books on the subject, although I cannot say what created the interest. When I started working for John Strong selling balloons and eventually on the carny circuit, he was amazed at how much trivia I knew. He had spent his whole life immersed in this stuff, being the son of a circus owner, and knew a lot of the people who appeared in those books.

Two other good books were 'Very Special People' and 'We Who Are Not Like Others.' When I tracked down the latter volume to a book store in Toluca Lake, I was surprised to find out the woman who owned the store was the daughter of the author.

Posted by: epobirs at December 14, 2012 10:25 PM (kcfmt)

681 Harleycowboy. Exactly. That crash struck me as 'odd.' And Hillary and Chelsea had just used that 737 to do a junket in Yugoslavia.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 10:25 PM (oQmCC)

682 Arguing against a total gun ban on FB. FML.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 10:25 PM (sqp6o)

683 harleycowboy at December 15, 2012 02:24 AM (+9AX9) donno. If I crashed a plane load of people, I might not want to look anybody in the eye ever again ...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 10:25 PM (gh+mp)

684 Okay. Need to know what "Japanese Cello" music NBC was playing, just now. I *also* INSIST that whomever thought that energetic '80's pop Billy Joel's 'Only the Good Die Young' as bumper music be played on a broadcast dedicated to "the tragedy" be kneed in the groin unto death.

Posted by: Deety at December 14, 2012 10:25 PM (8eLGd)

685 Good God, here's an indicator of how crappy the educational system and media/Hollywood influence in our country has become: I'm having to school an attorney friend on FB about firearms and firearms laws in the US. He's swearing he completely understands calibers and "clips" and thinks there is no way what happened today could have been perpetrated with a .22...but that the availability of .223 is the problem.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 14, 2012 10:26 PM (svK4p)

686 675 And there is a new Hansel unt Gretel movie coming out. Looks like the kids are monster slayers.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 02:19 AM (oQmCC)

Witchhunters actually. Hansel is the guy that played Hawkeye. The trailers I saw when it was first announced made it look like a slightly better Van Helsing. I'd compare it to the Brother's Grimm or whatever it was but I never saw that movie.

Posted by: buzzion at December 14, 2012 10:26 PM (GULKT)

687 Country Singer at December 15, 2012 02:26 AM (svK4p) Good luck. Lawyers know everything, don'tcha know...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 10:28 PM (gh+mp)

688 658 >>>Actually, Gandalf existed before Middle Earth, and was of the same order of beings as Sauron or balrogs (Maiar). He was in the chorus that sung the cosmos that Iluvatar sparked into being.

That was true angelic Gandalf. I was talking about the wizard incarnation.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 15, 2012 02:12 AM (GE1+K)

Oh, wow -- are we going to have a Council of Nicaea over Gandalf on AoS?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2012 10:28 PM (kaalw)

689 Grumpy, look at what bears fruit for a people. The obvious answer, imho, is that something Judeo-Christian is a great place to start.

Posted by: Cowboy at December 14, 2012 10:28 PM (WcgMM)

690 'a slightly better Van Helsing' Oh boy that really fires up the enthusiasm. Not.

Bugs Bunny, "Run for your lives children for she is a witch."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 10:29 PM (oQmCC)

691 I *also* INSIST that whomever thought that energetic '80's pop Billy Joel's 'Only the Good Die Young' as bumper music be played on a broadcast dedicated to "the tragedy" be kneed in the groin unto death. Posted by: Deety at December 15, 2012 02:25 AM (8eLGd) Sickening. Tempts me to hope Karma is more ACTIVE than I believe it to be on most days.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 10:30 PM (jts1f)

692 RWC at December 15, 2012 02:25 AM (sqp6o) Ask about the gasoline ban... New York night club massacres, over 80 dead, jealous boyfriend, gallon of gasoline ...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 10:30 PM (gh+mp)

693 669 Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 15, 2012 02:17 AM (jts1f) --- hmm...well, I can't say I haven't met people who've had similar experiences and worse. But I've seen and experienced enough to say that the notion that "the Church serves itself, not its flock" is also an overly broad and unfair generalization. Anyway, I'm always a bit bemused by comments that are dismissive of "organized religion" in general. What do you understand by the term "organized", and why do you think it's superfluous?

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 10:30 PM (Y5I9o)

694

Like Clinton walking away from a funeral laughing his ass off until he realized there was a camera and then he switched to "How sad I look" in an instant. Fuckin' wanker. Posted by: harleycowboy at December 15, 2012 02:14 AM (+9AX9)

Clinton IS a wanker and a phoney - but he's a very American sort of phoney. I never voted for, or liked the man, but I always thought the source of his appeal was that Americans have long had a certain affection for the charming snake-oil or used car salesman. We knew Eddie Haskell was a lying BS artist, but we enjoyed it when Eddie showed up with his swarmy "Hello, Mrs. Cleaver." Clinton was Eddie Haskell in the WH.

But Obama? He strikes me as so humorless and so fundamentally anti-American that I truly am mystified by his appeal.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 14, 2012 10:30 PM (BStAJ)

695 perpetrated with a .22...but that the availability of .223 is the problem. The .30-06 30-30 300 win mag and .308 laugh at your friend.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 10:31 PM (GE1+K)

696 #651

Sounds like the storyline currently running in the three Green Lantern books. (Green Lantern, Green Lantern Corps, and Green Lantern - New Guardians) The guys behind the Green Lantern Corps have decided that trying to get sentient life to behave properly is futile and are intent on replacing everybody in the universe with a new life form completely subservient to the Guardians' will.

Because it will be so much less messy that way.

Posted by: epobirs at December 14, 2012 10:31 PM (kcfmt)

697 Oh, wow -- are we going to have a Council of Nicaea over Gandalf on AoS? Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2012 02:28 AM (kaalw) I think the Gold for this thread already went to Anna Puma but this is definitely worthy of the Silver.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 10:31 PM (jts1f)

698 Cthulhu yeah lets have a Council of Rivendale on the divinity of Mithrandir. Use Bob Costas for the dwarf tossing.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 10:32 PM (oQmCC)

699 I got into a discussion with an atheist once. He was chiding me for my belief in God and how the universe was formed. Stated that there are X number of dimensions. So I ask him if he thought that in one of the dimensions there existed intelligent beings and if there was could some of them be so advanced as to be able to communicate with us. He said "Yes." I said so do I. But science still can't explain where all the matter came from, at what point did the laws of physics begin, why did the singularity go bang?

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 14, 2012 10:32 PM (+9AX9)

700 Adriane at December 15, 2012 02:28 AM (gh+mp)

LOL, tell me about it. He's a typical lib, too...under no circumstances will he admit he has no clue what he's talking about, no matter how silly it makes him look.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 14, 2012 10:32 PM (svK4p)

701 Sauron needs to visit Akihabara and the pachinko parlors. That will take care of him. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 02:11 AM (oQmCC) If anyone could make Orcs MoÃ©, its Sanrio...

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 ~です at December 14, 2012 10:33 PM (sZTYJ)

702 ..... *mind gibbers and flees*

Hello Orcs

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 10:34 PM (oQmCC)

703 689 Grumpy, look at whatbears fruit for a people. The obvious answer, imho, is that something Judeo-Christian is a great place to start. Posted by: Cowboy at December 15, 2012 02:28 AM (WcgMM) -- Er...maybe, maybe not. We've got a lot of outright assholes among us. Something about not pulling out the weeds for fear of pulling up the good wheat as well...

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 10:35 PM (Y5I9o)

704 All righty ... the handy, dandy Christmas light timer has turned off the pretty, twinkling stars and such ... Time to go to bed. Peace and love be in your hearts ... and a generous amount of oxygenated blood cells ...

Posted by: Adriane at December 14, 2012 10:35 PM (gh+mp)

705 People who think Obama was truly sad need to re-watch him t the arrival of the caskets of the four Americans killed by his spiritual cousins in Libya. The guy has ice water for blood.

Posted by: Baldy at December 14, 2012 10:35 PM (opS9C)

706 679
While Mormons have some 'interesting' ideas, they are nothing compared to many other religions when it comes to weird.

JeremiadBullfrog makes a great point about modern physics. While the unplumbed mysteries of gravity are manifest, quantum mechanics and string theory are outright bizarre.

The universe is more amazing than we can imagine.

PS. I appear to live near a Mormon colony in Michigan with tons of neighbors who are of that persuasion. As a group, they are the nicest most reliable people I have ever had the pleasure to associate with despite their 'interesting' ideas.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 15, 2012 02:25 AM (jts1f)

Y'know, if being Mormon only consisted of eschewing drugs and alcohol, behaving decently toward people, wearing funny underwear, and talking about strange stuff on Sundays.....let's face it, the top 100 things to worry about with them are: 1-97, behaving decently toward people; 98-100, the funny underwear or whatever.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2012 10:36 PM (kaalw)

707 Night Adriane, sweep dreams of gingerbread cookies.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 10:36 PM (oQmCC)

708 MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 15, 2012 02:31 AM (GE1+K)

I'm laughing at him, too...and that's frustrating the hell out of him.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 14, 2012 10:36 PM (svK4p)

709 @694:"But Obama? He strikes me as so humorless and so fundamentally anti-American that I truly am mystified by his appeal. Posted by: Donna V. at December 15, 2012 02:30 AM (BStAJ) --- Look to the schools. The "other" is cool! And pointing out that he's the "other" just makes him that much cooler, and you that much more of a hater, you hater!

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 10:37 PM (Y5I9o)

710

Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 02:25 AM

What happened to the plane that went down with all of the military ballots on it? Rather suspisious.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 14, 2012 10:37 PM (+9AX9)

711 Posted by: Adriane at December 15, 2012 02:30 AM (gh+mp) Already did. And asked them about the Bath massacre. Now i ased them what restrictions would you impose to prevent this. No response yet. (and yes, whatever they come up with will be wrong.). That damn 'human nature' always gets in the way.

Posted by: RWC at December 14, 2012 10:38 PM (sqp6o)

712 I talked to a man whose son was shot. He wanted to outlaw guns. I ask him why he was blaming an inanimate object for his son's death.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 14, 2012 10:40 PM (+9AX9)

713 697 Oh, wow -- are we going to have a Council of Nicaea over Gandalf on AoS? Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2012 02:28 AM (kaalw)

I think the Gold for this thread already went to Anna Puma but this is definitely worthy of the Silver.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 15, 2012 02:31 AM (jts1f)

One of the most awesome things about AoS is that someone out there gets my jokes.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2012 10:40 PM (kaalw)

714 Actually Cthulhu that should terrify you. That someone gets you...

Plane full of military ballots? When was this?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 10:42 PM (oQmCC)

715 Anyway, I'm always a bit bemused by comments that are dismissive of "organized religion" in general. What do you understand by the term "organized", and why do you think it's superfluous? Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 15, 2012 02:30 AM (Y5I9o) Well since you ask ... Organized as in one person or a hierarchy of persons having the incredible presumption to teach the mysteries of life and the mind of God to other people willing to accept intangible articles of faith. The temptation to abuse such power for venal and even mortal transgressions has a long history. As I said previously, I truly admire the truly pious people who live the teachings of Christ, and others for that matter, and I have met a few. I am just unable to accept on faith that anyone has the answers to the big questions of where do we come from?, why are we here?, where are we going? I am a lifelong junkie of the printed word and have studied enough history, science, cosmetology, philosophy etc to find the universe(s) to be truly awe inspiring and no insult intended to anyone's beliefs but the mythology of ancient cultures just does not satisfy my urge to understand the world around me.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 10:42 PM (jts1f)

716 Did anyone else experience bizarre traffic today? I saw a few near collisions and a bunch of people driving like maniacs. I have been noticing it more in last few years, but some days when there is big distressing news,not sure if I m more alert or what but people seem to be unhinged all over.

Posted by: Baldy at December 14, 2012 10:42 PM (opS9C)

717 Squirrel!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 14, 2012 10:43 PM (uis79)

718 >>>Did anyone else experience bizarre traffic today? As the Mayans predicted.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 10:47 PM (GE1+K)

719 Where?

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 10:47 PM (jts1f)

720 699 I got into a discussion with an atheist once. He was chiding me for my belief in God and how the universe was formed. Stated that there are X number of dimensions. So I ask him if he thought that in one of the dimensions there existed intelligent beings and if there was could some of them be so advanced as to be able to communicate with us. He said "Yes." I said so do I. But science still can't explain where all the matter came from, at what point did the laws of physics begin, why did the singularity go bang? Posted by: harleycowboy at December 15, 2012 02:32 AM (+9AX9) --- But you see, this kind of discussion is a total non-sequitur since you both have different definitions of the word "why". This kind of misunderstanding what leads people to think that we're just relying on a "god of the gaps" notion, i.e., "if science can't say why, then it must be god". It doesn't help that lots of creationists actually do say this. But for the most part, it's like if you punched your friend in the arm, and he said, why'd you do that? It would be the difference between answering him by saying that a chain of complex chemical reactions in your body moved your arm to take that action vs. saying that you wanted him to shut up because he was being a douche. Two very different answers to two very different questions, both unforutnately implied by the same question, "why did X happen?"

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 10:47 PM (Y5I9o)

721 The guy has ice water for blood.

"Ice water" implies steely-hearted courage.

The asshole's a fucking sociopath.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 14, 2012 10:48 PM (49ymN)

722 718 >>>Did anyone else experience bizarre traffic today? As the Mayans predicted. Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 15, 2012 02:47 AM (GE1+K) One of the advantages of a home office is that many days I do not have to venture out onto the roads where the crazy people roam. The flip side is that when I do, I have to travel to far off places and get to see far too much of it. Today, today was a nice quiet day for this old fat bastard.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 10:49 PM (jts1f)

723 I've been having trouble with YouTube lately. Many times I just get a black rectangle that refuses to play. Does anybody know what the problem might be? As a test, here is 10,000 Maniacs' new song "Triangles". I've heard on their Pledgemusic site and I love it. This link should be good, but it doesn't work for me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRyxTWZ6Bf0 Can anybody else view it?

Posted by: rickl at December 14, 2012 10:50 PM (sdi6R)

724 I guess I'm inferring, rather than the sentence is implying.

Fucking English grammar, how does it work?

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 14, 2012 10:50 PM (49ymN)

725

Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 02:42 AM

It was around Oct. I think.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 14, 2012 10:51 PM (+9AX9)

726 rickl @ 723 ... worked fine for me

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 10:51 PM (jts1f)

727 >>>I've been having trouble with YouTube lately. As the Mayans predicted.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 10:52 PM (GE1+K)

728 Til Tuesday - Voices Carry
http://youtu.be/uejh-bHa4To

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 10:52 PM (oQmCC)

729 I heard a major political argument at the bar tonight, and I had a revelation. The guy on the right made the argument that, people who wanted free shit voted for Obama and that exposed how weak America was... The girl on the Left made the argument that, Bush destroyed the country so badly that relying on the government is the only reasonable position for the average Joe! Thats when it became clear...."destroy it before it destroys' you."

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 14, 2012 10:52 PM (uis79)

730 >>>Fucking English grammar, how does it work Cosmic chaos kittens

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 14, 2012 10:53 PM (GE1+K)

731 The girl on the Left made the argument that, Bush destroyed the country so badly that relying on the government is the only reasonable position for the average Joe!

We'll need pics to settle this conundrum.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 14, 2012 10:53 PM (49ymN)

732 Cosmic kittehs, why String Theory is so tangled.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 10:54 PM (oQmCC)

733 @715:"Organized as in one person or a hierarchy of persons having the incredible presumption" --- Well, I suppose one person's presumption is another person's divinely instituted mandate. But I do understand the disappointment and potential cynicism that results when people, holding religious office or not, don't live up to the standards we'd like them to. I don't think it's grounds for rejecting organized religion, though. But we make our own judgments. Apropos this topic, I would direct you to a marvelous passage of Plato's "Phaedo" starting at about paragraph 89. If I can find it, I'll post it in a sec.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 10:54 PM (Y5I9o)

734 726 Thanks for the feedback, Grumpy. So why the heck can't *I* see it?

Posted by: rickl at December 14, 2012 10:56 PM (sdi6R)

735 728 Anna Your link worked fine for me. So why can't I play my own link? This is irritating.

Posted by: rickl at December 14, 2012 10:58 PM (sdi6R)

736 Plato's Phaedo [long quote, sorry] part 1: "But first let us take care that we avoid a danger. Of what nature? I said. Lest we become misologists, he replied: no worse thing can happen to a man than this. For as there are misanthropists or haters of men, there are also misologists or haters of ideas, and both spring from the same cause, which is ignorance of the world. Misanthropy arises out of the too great confidence of inexperience;Â—you trust a man and think him altogether true and sound and faithful, and then in a little while he turns out to be false and knavish; and then another and another, and when this has happened several times to a man, especially when it happens among those whom he deems to be his own most trusted and familiar friends, and he has often quarrelled with them, he at last hates all men, and believes that no one has any good in him at all.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 10:59 PM (Y5I9o)

737 Getting too late. Giving up. G'night all

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 14, 2012 10:59 PM (+9AX9)

738 Plato's Phaedo [long quote, sorry] part 2: You must have observed this trait of character? I have. And is not the feeling discreditable? Is it not obvious that such an one having to deal with other men, was clearly without any experience of human nature; for experience would have taught him the true state of the case, that few are the good and few the evil, and that the great majority are in 90the interval between them. What do you mean? I said.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 11:00 PM (Y5I9o)

739

Grumpy the younger,

Some of just have Faith

Posted by: alamogordo at December 14, 2012 11:00 PM (HUTO5)

740 Plato's Phaedo [long quote, sorry] part 3: I mean, he replied, as you might say of the very large and very smallÂ—that nothing is more uncommon than a very large or very small man; and this applies generally to all extremes, whether of great and small, or swift and slow, or fair and foul, or black and white: and whether the instances you select be men or dogs or anything else, few are the extremes, but many are in the mean between them. Did you never observe this? Yes, I said, I have. And do you not imagine, he said, that if there were a competition in evil, the worst would be found to be very few? Yes, that is very likely, I said. Yes, that is very likely, he replied; although in this respect arguments are unlike menÂ—there I was led on by you to say more than I had intended; but the point of comparison was, that when a simple man who has no skill in dialectics believes an argument to be true which he afterwards imagines to be false, whether really false or not, and then another and another, he has no longer any faith left, and great disputers, as you know, come to think at last that they have grown to be the wisest of mankind; for they alone perceive the utter unsoundness and instability of all arguments, or indeed, of all things, which, like the currents in the Euripus, are going up and down in never-ceasing ebb and flow. That is quite true, I said.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 11:00 PM (Y5I9o)

741 rickl ... what platform are you operating on? A lot of YouTube content requires Flash and some Apple devices do not support it ... but sounds like it used to work for you so I would suggest reinstalling the latest version of Flash, then your video drivers, and possibly consider scrubbing your system with something like CCleaner from Pirifom. There is a free version that I have used for years to keep all my families computers cleaned up (temp files, cookies, malware, trashed registry, etc.)

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 11:01 PM (jts1f)

742 Plato's Phaedo [long quote, sorry] part 4 & last: Yes, Phaedo, he replied, and how melancholy, if there be such a thing as truth or certainty or possibility of knowledgeÂ—that a man should have lighted upon some argument or other which at first seemed true and then turned out to be false, and instead of blaming himself and his own want of wit, because he is annoyed, should at last be too glad to transfer the blame from himself to arguments in general: and for ever afterwards should hate and revile them, and lose truth and the knowledge of realities.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 11:01 PM (Y5I9o)

743 Rickl your link worked for me. W7 and Mozilla.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 11:02 PM (oQmCC)

744 Getting too late.

I told myself I was going to sleep at 1am (EST) at the latest.

Two hours ago.

Best-laid plans, and all that, I guess.

/sighs
/cranks up live BBC version of "Memphis, Tennessee"

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 14, 2012 11:03 PM (49ymN)

745 Alright, I thnk I'm done for the night. I've got to facilitate a math workshop tomorrow at the uni. blegh. christmas break can't come soon enough. 'night all.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 14, 2012 11:04 PM (Y5I9o)

746 From South Korea - Bubble Pop. Ignore the Beiber clone.
http://youtu.be/jvD0KbJAEZ0

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 11:05 PM (oQmCC)

747 Ignore the Beiber clone.

Easiest assignment ever.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 14, 2012 11:08 PM (49ymN)

748 I have Mac OS 10.6.8 running Safari 5.1.7. Up until the last week or so I've had no complaints. I've been keeping up with software updates. But all of a sudden, some YouTube videos refuse to play, while others are fine. I'm puzzled.

Posted by: rickl at December 14, 2012 11:10 PM (sdi6R)

749 Just got back from watching The Hobbit with a buddy and a flask. If youre a LOTR geek ignore the following. You're going to see it regardless. The negative reviews the rest of you may have read? It was worse than that.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 14, 2012 11:17 PM (X9Mnx)

750 Response to Phaedo ... Agreed, to presume all men or arguments to be false because some or even many have proven so is to fall prey to the fallacy of generalization. I know some things and I believe some others. I know the world is round for I have flown around it. I believe it to orbit the sun because observed phenomenon are consistent with the theory as I understand it. Given many such cases of credibility inherent in the scientific method I tend to believe things like the ability through spectral analysis to determine the composition in the core of a distant star even though I do not have the math or physics training to 'know' such a thing. However, I class some aspects of modern physics as beliefs on a par with other theological constructs built upon insufficient data. Science has credibility up to point but it comes up empty explaining why love and honor and valor and duty matter. In this area I have enough personal experience as a veteran and a father and world traveler to know that they do matter and not only that but to wholeheartedly believe in ideas like souls and grace and sin and evil. I just do not find comfort in what most people call religion. The older I get, the less interested I am in answers and the more interested I get in the questions and many people of faith do not like to have the kinds of questions that interest me asked and over the years I have found myself estranged from the Church of my youth. I must admit to enjoying being challenged this evening but family obligations manana force me to seek my repose. I look forward to another round in the future, assuming the horde does not name me Threadslayer and petition for the banhammer 3000.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 11:21 PM (jts1f)

751 Exid - Every Night. Click on CC for lyrics. Gas masks made sexy.
http://youtu.be/SVgkNW2cENQ

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 11:22 PM (oQmCC)

752 The negative reviews the rest of you may have read? It was worse than that. Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 15, 2012 03:17 AM (X9Mnx) Because it deviated from the book too much? Or because the story did not hold up for anyone who has not read the book? Or?

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 11:23 PM (jts1f)

753 Hollowpoint. Specifics please? People know how cranky I get with poor stories and shows. But my complaint with the movie, besides editing out about 15 minutes of panorama and fight, was it ended. I could have stood another three hours if Jackson had finished the movie I was so immersed.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 14, 2012 11:26 PM (oQmCC)

754 Why You've Never Heard of the Great Depression of 1920 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czcUmnsprQI

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 14, 2012 11:28 PM (sZTYJ)

755 751 Exid - Every Night. Click on CC for lyrics. Gas masks made sexy. http://youtu.be/SVgkNW2cENQ Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 03:22 AM (oQmCC) Wow K-pop is everywhere, even on AoS. I am a bit of an old fart for such but the music and the imagery was interesting. My daughters will probably love it. Good Night Anna. Good Night All.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 14, 2012 11:31 PM (jts1f)

756 Night all. A little tast of who ought to have won the Grammy instead of Jethro Tull in the Metal category: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23DpRxb3XNM

Posted by: The Political Hat \m/ at December 14, 2012 11:33 PM (sZTYJ)

757 I didn't read any of the books. I liked the previous LOTR movies a lot. The Hobbit? Being pointlessly too long was only it's second worst fault. It's biggest sin was being so disjointed that even after three hours, character development was so lacking that the only people you cared about were those from the LOTR movies, and then only because you already knew them. Everyone else was just there. There was no sense of epic heros and villians. Even familiar characters seemed diminished from previous roles.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 14, 2012 11:41 PM (X9Mnx)

758

In late from work in my other hat in E.R Medicine.

Dang this day so sucked, not because I was hammered all day with sick people who needed caring for, if I had only not turned on the news this morning......trying to work an Emergency Dept. while you try and FAIL to block out the horror from across the country this day.......I hugged all my kids,

now, I will just slam a good CAB, and try to block out this day...and say a prayer for all those parents back east who will never get to hug their kids again.

FUCKIN A!!!! Where do these MONSTERS come from???

IS IT THE MUSIC??? VIDEO GAMES?????? SOCIAL MEDIA????

THE FUCKING WATER??? SERIOUS!!!!! HOW DOES THIS KIND OF HORROR HAPPEN IN A civilized nation such as ours???

FUCK IT!!!!

Posted by: Richard at December 15, 2012 01:19 AM (98kcW)

759 >>> HOW DOES THIS KIND OF HORROR HAPPEN IN A civilized nation such as ours??? FUCK IT!!!! Studies show that an overuse of capitalization is a direct cause of school violence.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 15, 2012 01:33 AM (0Ufr+)

760 Dogs on jetskis. Dogs driving cars. What's next?

Posted by: Walkers! at December 15, 2012 01:34 AM (0Ufr+)

761

not in a joking mood, not with kids....ever...

copy that.....Mr. Walkers.........oh.........!

Posted by: Richard at December 15, 2012 01:39 AM (98kcW)

762 They are reporting that Belcher and his gf were arguing about paternity of their child. He's a clue, douchebag: take a dna test. How can you not know about checking paternity in this day and age?

Posted by: Walkers! at December 15, 2012 01:41 AM (0Ufr+)

763 Pandas shit avocados. Look it up in google image. They also do handstands to pee. You should like the panda. They don't like to fuck in public. Good for them. They also don't eat humans which is a big fucking plus in my book.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 15, 2012 01:45 AM (0Ufr+)

764 Mac OS 10.6.8 running Safari 5.1.7. Up until the last week or so I've had no complaints. I've been keeping up with software updates. But all of a sudden, some YouTube videos refuse to play, while others are fine. I'm puzzled. Same thing happened to me. I deleted a few thousand cookies and it was ok for about 15 minutes.. sigh..I've got to stop trying to hold on to my personal electronics for more than 2 years. (do not even ask me about my phone..it is 2.5 years old..ancient)

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at December 15, 2012 02:23 AM (53riN)

765 CDR M, love them pups.

Posted by: panzernashorn at December 15, 2012 02:48 AM (BAnPT)

766 754 /sober labor referenced by Andrew Mellon

Posted by: panzernashorn at December 15, 2012 02:53 AM (BAnPT)

767 The Romulan Ale link is bad.

Posted by: SDN at December 15, 2012 03:00 AM (BzBNN)

768 Morning thread, I summon thee!

Posted by: Conservative Crank, in work purgatory at December 15, 2012 03:05 AM (FqcJu)

769 Merry Xmas little children. signed The NRA

Posted by: Conservatives want our children murdered at December 15, 2012 03:28 AM (7yu6O)

770

Before the dawn of the dawn thread,

I wish you all a good morning.

Now for me, some dreamless sleep.......please

Posted by: Richard at December 15, 2012 03:29 AM (98kcW)

771

770

ARE YOU A FUCKTARD? TROLL? OBAMA FAPPIN HAND?

JUST.....die..or better yet....pay for your medical care..cause I'm opting out for you freeloaders once and for all..

morning BITCH!!

Posted by: Richard at December 15, 2012 03:36 AM (98kcW)

772 Yeesh, that's definitely worthy of instant banhammering.

Posted by: Conservative Crank, in work purgatory at December 15, 2012 03:42 AM (FqcJu)

773 Down to the ER guys and a troll, apparently. Richard, I bet we could think of some fun things to do with that...

Posted by: Conservative Crank, in work purgatory at December 15, 2012 03:43 AM (FqcJu)

774

I AM RAGE!!!

Trolls......a target...I have the eye with a black long....RAGE

I need sleep.....damn....hurting for the kids...dang my kids...dang

Posted by: Richard at December 15, 2012 03:48 AM (98kcW)

775 The trolls are ghouls who dance in demonic delight at the deaths of the innocent.

Best to ignore them, and they will fall back into the pit from whence they came.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 15, 2012 03:52 AM (GoIUi)

776 Why are dark red states like Idaho and Mississippi setting up State run Obamacare exchanges?

WTF? the more that reject the garbage the better

Posted by: Jack J at December 15, 2012 03:53 AM (NHIB3)

777 Bloomberg and all the other elite liberals should disarm their own security details, before preaching.

Posted by: Jack J at December 15, 2012 03:55 AM (NHIB3)

778 Bloomberg can go to hell and sit on a hot coal until it snows. Remember, there are no fat people in NYC since he banned trans fats from restaurants, right? No? Still fat people there? Then I stand by my earlier statement. Petty tyrant.

Posted by: Conservative Crank, in work purgatory at December 15, 2012 03:58 AM (FqcJu)

779

774

I should be in bed, yet I drunk post true and am honest about my pain that one would post on this site something in jest about so many dead childern.....RAGE could I reach into the monitor and rip the head off such a felon such as he and spit in his freshly plucked eye sockets such pain I wish to

inflict...and proud to say....waterboarding would be a pleasure compared to me......such is my rage...and with my medical background.......he would be wise to just go....away.

Posted by: Richard at December 15, 2012 04:01 AM (98kcW)

780 Still no morning thread. What's the appropriate sacrifice for Saturdays? Pointy elbows? Troll blood? Hobo marinated in Thunderbird?

Posted by: Conservative Crank, in work purgatory at December 15, 2012 04:01 AM (FqcJu)

781 Conservative Crank, in work purgatory at December 15, 2012 08:01 AM (FqcJu) MMMMM Thunderbird. Mornin Rons.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 15, 2012 04:02 AM (3Y7RV)

782 BTW, this work computer hashtag is awesome...

Posted by: Conservative Crank, in work purgatory at December 15, 2012 04:04 AM (FqcJu)

783 Weeeeeeeekend! I worked Saturday but have Sunday off! its 9PM Saturday here. In China I won't be viewing the Geminids (at least in Dongguan anyway). The darn sky is so polluted you need a rocket flight or a download from the Hubble to see the moon or stars. I guess that SMOD fella could sneak right up on me. When they ask why I don't quit smoking, I reply its the cleanest air I breathe in this shithole! I have beer, so no worries mate! Lets have at it Ron's and Ronnettes!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 15, 2012 04:05 AM (aOtzy)

784

782

Should I finish off the bottle of PORT? even with the wicked sediments?

Or should I just put a finger down my throat and recall the bad wine?

Posted by: Richard at December 15, 2012 04:06 AM (98kcW)

785 @785, the sediments are the best part! Thats pre-Grappa in the making!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 15, 2012 04:12 AM (aOtzy)

786 I remember many years ago walking from Haifa Port, all the way up to the upper city, where the USO was located.
During that walk, we passed several schools,and not a small number of playgrounds full of children.
And in every case, there were armed adults standing guard over the small children.
Nothing overt, just a presence that ensured that anyone wishing harm to the children would face a determined and deadly defense.

Here...we create zones where a person with evil intent can be assured of defenseless targets.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2012 04:12 AM (1LuS9)

787 AaaannnddyyyyyYYYYY!

Posted by: soothsayer at December 15, 2012 04:15 AM (ZuNI2)

788 Dear hateful prick of a troll, may the fleas of a thousand bubonic fleas infest your armpits.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 04:16 AM (hWrM7)

789 OR something like that. Still need to wake up.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 04:17 AM (hWrM7)

790 Posted by: soothsayer at December 15, 2012 08:15 AM (ZuNI2) You know, I think you would be a good coblogger. Of course half of it is showing up.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 15, 2012 04:17 AM (3Y7RV)

791 Good morning AP, how are you today?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 15, 2012 04:19 AM (3Y7RV)

792 One Moron in California I hope just the won the Mega Millions. $35 million jackpot, the winning ticket was sold in California.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 04:20 AM (hWrM7)

793 I'm a professional commenter. It's my gift, my curse.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 15, 2012 04:21 AM (6Qi0I)

794 OSP, well the garbage folk just rolled by. The earliest I have ever seen them. So got a small matter of garbage not taken out. Now if I could find some mountain trolls to dump it on...

Other than that doing okay. Still need breakfast. Feed the cats. Laundry. How about you?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 04:22 AM (hWrM7)

795

786

I have known the GRAPPA.......after a fine "North Region " meal and a cigar of similar bearing......this I say from my history...yet I am still up and should be not!....if driving ...pulled over by the CHP....thankfully...I only am driving a keyboard presently... the STATE OF JERRY BROWN gets no money from me to support his bath-house ways....so THERE!!

Posted by: Richard at December 15, 2012 04:22 AM (98kcW)

796 Posted by: soothsayer at December 15, 2012 08:21 AM (6Qi0I) I wish I had a gift. Just a pocketful of curses. Hey, that sounds like a good song, pocketful of curses.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 15, 2012 04:22 AM (3Y7RV)

797 As long as someone shows up soon swinging the banhammer for 7yu6O--what an ass.

Posted by: Conservative Crank, in work purgatory at December 15, 2012 04:23 AM (FqcJu)

798 Or a collection of short stories OSP.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 04:23 AM (hWrM7)

799 Oh yeah the proper curse for the troll - "May the fleas of a thousand bubonic camels infest your arm pits."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 04:24 AM (hWrM7)

800 I'd like to see Vic take over the morning post duties.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 15, 2012 04:24 AM (JFGee)

801 Other than that doing okay. Still need breakfast. Feed the cats. Laundry. How about you? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 08:22 AM (hWrM7) Stinging from yesterdays events. I can see my cute blonde 8 year old tapping away on the computer. I can't imagine. Me and the misses have been discussing getting a boat for a long time. Nothing extravgent, just a 20ft skiff to cruise the intercoastal, hang out on the sand bars ect. After last night I looked at her and said, ya know life is too short, let's get that boat. Then if by magic the phone rang and I was called back to work starting monday.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 15, 2012 04:26 AM (3Y7RV)

802 So, the mother and first victim owned the guns. Duh, I guess that she didn't have or use a gun safe.

Posted by: Al at December 15, 2012 04:26 AM (V70Uh)

803 I'd like to see Vic take over the morning post duties. That's a popular sentiment, I don't think Vic wants it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 15, 2012 04:28 AM (3Y7RV)

804 the left doesn't care about dead soldiers or dead kids back in '05, and '06 the moonbat trolls would love when troops were killed in Iraq just so they could come here and blood libel us. the Left loves school shootings for the same reason.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 15, 2012 04:29 AM (gKX/m)

805 nood

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 15, 2012 04:30 AM (3Y7RV)

806 nood!

Posted by: soothsayer at December 15, 2012 04:30 AM (6Qi0I)

807 That sounds like very good news, being called back to work. And now is the time to snatch up a boat, weather is against boating and end of year inventory pressure.

Yesterday was just horrible, simply terrible. The sorry and anger in equal measure. Those who are dancing on the graves of children to score cheap political points I wish they get a cancer that eats their faces off.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 15, 2012 04:31 AM (hWrM7)

808

Shoot,

I'm never up this late. Hope I did not screw up the usual roll of the early morning, I was out of my mind for the most part...and thanks for letting me hang....

night/morning.....

Posted by: Richard at December 15, 2012 04:33 AM (98kcW)

809 If you defriend people on Facebook, do they realize it? I had an incident last night with two people (in which they implied I was to blame for the massacre) just because I have "liked" conservatives on Facebook. Did not say a word (except to affirm when one sked me if I was one - though technically I am still a Dem, I never vote that way anymore) about the shooting while they were blaming the GOP and hoping Obama bans guns.

Posted by: Baldy at December 15, 2012 04:33 AM (opS9C)

810

810--No message is sent.

Get some sleep Richard.

Vic is MIA for the weekend anyway, so that doesn't help us today--and I think he's happy doing what he does already--though he is usually flattered when someone suggests that he take over morning thread duties.

Posted by: Conservative Crank, in work purgatory at December 15, 2012 04:38 AM (FqcJu)

811

Just be ready folks that hold true to the 2nd. This horror will test our present 2nd to the limit.....count on it!

gosh darn sleep me now.....

Posted by: Richard at December 15, 2012 04:42 AM (98kcW)

812 Here...we create zones where a person with evil intent can be assured of defenseless targets.

Over the whole arc of human history, America is the most powerful, yet most naive collection of people to exist.

Posted by: Natural Selection at December 15, 2012 04:47 AM (G0eua)

813 "So any of you morons try This Beer? 6 bottles for $84.99??? I don't care how good it is, it's not $84.99 good. Of course, in my view, the best beer is the cold one that's in your hand." Idiot. Wrong. This is considered by many knowledgeable people THE BEST BEER IN THE WORLD. What would you pay for the finest wine in the world? The finest steak? The finest suit? The finest automobile? People go to a bar and pay $8-10 for some godawful swill and no one bats an eye. Westvleteren 12 is incredible and easily worth $14 a bottle.

Posted by: Chester White at December 15, 2012 03:04 PM (kNjG7)

814 Westvleteren 12 is incredible and easily worth $14 a bottle. At $14 a bottle, it should come with a steak.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 15, 2012 03:10 PM (QupBk)

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