December 21, 2012
— CDR M

Welcome to Winter. Officially anyway. Still have a few hours left for the Mayan Apocalypse (or maybe until Sunday According To Mexican Scientists) so drink up and come on in to the ONT. Unusual Christmas Traditions

Unusual Christmas Traditions From Around The World. Oh I'm sure some of you morons have some "unusual" ones too.
Catalonia: While Americans gather around the Christmas tree to open presents, in Catalonia, families gather around the “caga tio,” a log that’s decorated with a cartoon face and plied with treats in the weeks before Christmas. On Christmas day, the children sing a song and beat the log with sticks until it “poops” out presents (caga is the Catalonian equivalent of “caca,” and literally means “pooping log”). The log’s backside is covered with a blanket, and when the song is done and the presents have all been pooped out, parents pull back the covers to reveal the log’s scatological bounty. It’s a Christmas miracle!
Bonus: Latest Probability Of A White Christmas. Dang. No snow for me. And I'm not gonna pay $16,387 To Make It Snow At My House either.

Bob Costas
Psst. Hey Bob Costas, you might want to rant about televisions now. Tipping Televisions Kill Record Number Of U.S. Kids Government Warns.
The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) released a report on Thursday that estimates about 43,000 people are injured in a television or furniture tip-over related incident each year, more than 25,000, or 59 percent, of whom are children.The report also showed that 349 people were killed between 2000 and 2011 by a falling television, appliance or piece of furniture -- 84 percent of them were kids younger than 9 years old. Falling televisions were more deadly, accounting for 62 percent of these fatalities. Last year alone, a record 41 tip-over related fatalities occurred.
The worrisome trends the report spotlighted indicated that three children are injured by a tip-over every hour -- or 71 children per day -- and one child is killed every two weeks. Seventy percent of injuries involving children were caused by televisions, followed by 26 percent caused by furniture like dressers or tables.
Sadly, we don't know how many were killed while watching Bob Costas.
Beer Is Coming

Only 6.5% alcohol? That's not strong enough for a Game Of Thrones Beer.
A Bit Of History
The Boy Who Became A WWII Veteran At 13 Years Old. So what were you doing when you were 13 that comes close to this?
Seaman Graham quietly became a teenager, turning 13 on November 6, just as Japanese naval forces began shelling an American airfield on Guadalcanal Island. Steaming south with the Enterprise, Task Force 64, with the South Dakota and another battleship, the USS Washington, took four American destroyers on a night search for the enemy near Savo Island. There, on November 14, Japanese ships opened fire, sinking or heavily damaging the American destroyers in a four day engagement that became known as the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal.Later that evening the South Dakota encountered eight Japanese destroyers; with deadly accurate 16-inch guns, the South Dakota set fire to three of them. “They never knew what sank ‘em,” Gatch would recall. One Japanese ship set its searchlights on the South Dakota, and the ship took 42 enemy hits, temporarily losing power. Graham was manning his gun when shrapnel tore through his jaw and mouth; another hit knocked him down, and he fell through three stories of superstructure. Still, the 13 year-old made it to his feet, dazed and bleeding, and helped pull other crew members to safety while others were thrown by the force of the explosions, their bodies aflame, into the Pacific.
I love this quote from the skipper of the USS South Dakota.
Standing on the bridge, Captain Gatch watched as a 500-pound bomb struck the South Dakota’s main gun turret. The explosion injured 50 men, including the skipper, and killed one. The ship’s armor was so thick, many of the crew were unaware they’d been hit. But word quickly spread that Gatch had been knocked unconscious. Quick-thinking quartermasters managed to save the captain’s life—his jugular vein had been severed, and the ligaments in his arms suffered permanent damage—but some onboard were aghast that he didn’t hit the deck when he saw the bomb coming. “I consider it beneath the dignity of a captain of an American battleship to flop for a Japanese bomb,” Gatch later said.
Nice View

Eleventy
You should know how to easily tell if a number is divisible by 11.As an example, weÂ’ll use the number 10604.
First, add up the odd number digits in the number: 1 + 6 + 4 = 11.
Next, add up the even number digits: 0 + 0= 0.
Now subtract the sum of the odd digits (11) with the sum of the even digits (0): 11-0 = 11.
Now take the resulting number and see if you can divide it by 11: 11/11 = 1
If you can do this final division, as in this case (11/11 = 1), then the number itself (10,604) is also divisible by 11.
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Canine caroling!
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Posted by: Inspector Asshole at December 21, 2012 06:06 PM (IOSGZ)
Posted by: and irresolute at December 21, 2012 06:06 PM (DBH1h)
Posted by: Virginia at December 21, 2012 06:08 PM (9F2c1)
Posted by: fluffy at December 21, 2012 06:08 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 21, 2012 06:09 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: Virginia at December 21, 2012 10:08 PM (9F2c1)
He's on vacation. Do you have any boobeh pics? I'm only asking to save the guys time . . . personally, I wanna see boobehs, I will look at my own.
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 06:09 PM (kpCLl)
Thousands of people marched in front of the presidential palace earlier this week demanding the elimination of income tax, which many lower-paid workers never had to pay before but must now after receiving a salary hike earlier this year.
_________________
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH
Posted by: trainer @ Home at December 21, 2012 06:09 PM (1QEkm)
Posted by: Tio Joe Biden at December 21, 2012 06:10 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: joncelli at December 21, 2012 06:10 PM (CWlPF)
Posted by: and irresolute at December 21, 2012 06:11 PM (DBH1h)
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 21, 2012 06:12 PM (Y5I9o)
Posted by: PaleRider at December 21, 2012 06:12 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: joncelli at December 21, 2012 06:12 PM (CWlPF)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 21, 2012 06:13 PM (jucos)
Evening roonz and roonettez! I am stuck in the skating rink on yet another Friday night, still waiting for the SMOD/Mayan apocalypse. So far...nothing.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 06:13 PM (DaUUd)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 21, 2012 06:13 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: huerfano at December 21, 2012 06:13 PM (bAGA/)
this week demanding the elimination of income tax, which many lower-paid
workers never had to pay before but must now after receiving a salary
hike earlier this year.
lololol!!!!
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 06:14 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 10:09 PM (kpCLl)
Braggart. Some of us don't have that option.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 06:14 PM (DaUUd)
Posted by: Robert at December 21, 2012 06:14 PM (LUnTP)
past their expiration date.....
Posted by: Lt. Col. Corn at December 21, 2012 06:15 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 21, 2012 06:15 PM (jucos)
Posted by: and irresolute at December 21, 2012 06:16 PM (DBH1h)
And that's FUCKING AWESOME!!!!
Sorry...I've been perusing Hot Air and some other sites...reading about the JEF and his minions...
JUST WANTED TO SAY FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKK!!! a few times.....
Posted by: Portnoy at December 21, 2012 06:16 PM (A5Abh)
Arithmetic is my department.
Posted by: Timmeh G. at December 21, 2012 06:17 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 06:18 PM (DaUUd)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 10:14 PM (DaUUd)
Oh, stop whinging, GGE, they are probably smaller than yours . . . albeit perkier and hairless.
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 06:19 PM (kpCLl)
That really is pretty crazy. The dadster lied about his age and joined the Navy (yeah) at, I believe, 16. Signalman on a carrier, plus he did some time on a Liberty ship or two. He's coming up for Christmas. He's 86 and recently widowed. God bless him. He's my dad and I love him a lot.
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 06:22 PM (kpCLl)
It's gonna be hilarious...and maybe bloody...
Posted by: Portnoy at December 21, 2012 06:22 PM (A5Abh)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 06:23 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 21, 2012 06:23 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 10:22 PM (kpCLl)
Good on you, Peaches. Lucky you.
Posted by: and irresolute at December 21, 2012 06:24 PM (DBH1h)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 06:24 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 06:25 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 10:22 PM (kpCLl)
Sorry to hear of your loss Peaches, salutes to your dad. Which carrier was he on, do you know? (not that it really matters, I'm sure it was razor blades long before I made my first cruise)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 06:26 PM (DaUUd)
There are proctologists here?
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 21, 2012 06:26 PM (FaqTv)
That is a fucking cool picture.
There..I got to say it again....999 more times and I'm good...
Posted by: Portnoy at December 21, 2012 06:26 PM (A5Abh)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 21, 2012 06:26 PM (jucos)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 21, 2012 06:26 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 06:26 PM (66ST/)
" “I consider it beneath the dignity of a captain of an American battleship to flop for a Japanese bomb,” "
I would be afraid to directly address this man.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at December 21, 2012 06:27 PM (VrVBw)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 06:27 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: and irresolute at December 21, 2012 06:28 PM (DBH1h)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 21, 2012 06:28 PM (e8kgV)
Very nice elbows.
I laughed at the fact that there's no attempt to get her face in the frame.
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 21, 2012 06:28 PM (Mp242)
No, 1 + 1 = 10, (as in "there are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 06:28 PM (DaUUd)
Posted by: Stark Dickflüssig at December 21, 2012 06:29 PM (mKlzx)
Posted by: AMA for favors at December 21, 2012 06:29 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 10:26 PM (DaUUd)
He was on one of the Rangers, GGE and, as I'm sure you know, there have been a long line of Rangers. He says it was like living in a medium-size city, there were over 1000 personnel. He was in the South Pacific and, this is my favorite part to the surprise of no moron, broke his finger in a bar fight on the face of Pretty Boy Floyd's son. Never got the details, but his finger was permanently bent.
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 06:29 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 21, 2012 06:30 PM (Sedwk)
Posted by: and irresolute at December 21, 2012 06:30 PM (DBH1h)
You guys are making fun of me, aren't you?
Posted by: Timmeh at December 21, 2012 06:31 PM (z9HTb)
So happy for you and baby Everett, and parents, peaches! Alls I wanted to do, tonight, besides that, is wish everyone a Merry Christmas, since I will most likely not even be able to lurk after tonight. Big doin's! Including Sunday night football at CenturyLink vs. SF! So excited!
Posted by: kalneva at December 21, 2012 06:31 PM (S+/pH)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 06:33 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 06:33 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 06:34 PM (DaUUd)
Posted by: t-bird at December 21, 2012 06:34 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: and irresolute at December 21, 2012 10:30 PM (DBH1h)
How about a compromise? Binary coded octal.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 06:35 PM (DaUUd)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 21, 2012 06:35 PM (3Y7RV)
The places we've been fighting lately? Not exactly littered with high quality airfields.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 21, 2012 06:36 PM (xpgUt)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 10:33 PM (kpCLl)
Not going yet. But thanks, Peaches! I will hang around as long as possible tonight, since I know it's the last time for a while. Getting sweepy, though. Long f'in' week.
Posted by: kalneva at December 21, 2012 06:36 PM (S+/pH)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 21, 2012 06:37 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 21, 2012 10:28 PM
Obamacare gonna fix that. It's in there
Posted by: Beto Ochoa at December 21, 2012 06:37 PM (BAnPT)
Posted by: and irresolute at December 21, 2012 06:37 PM (DBH1h)
Posted by: Russkilitlover at December 21, 2012 06:37 PM (OzdzB)
GREAT story, GGE!! My grandma, God bless her, my dad's momsie, would not abide anything Japanese ever, anywhere, don't even ask. Every Christmas, we would have to scour the gifts for "made in Japan" stickers before wrapping them. She and your granddad would have gotten on like a house on fire! Plus, you also could not mention FDR's name in their house. Nobody ever did, but I can only imagine the consequences. She made the best damn rhubarb pies, that woman. Blueberry, too. OMG, I miss her so much, still to this day.
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 06:37 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 21, 2012 10:35 PM (3Y7RV)
He told my dad he never wanted his kids to be mechanics or sailors (he was a heavy equipment mechanic), he didn't even teach my uncle how to change his own oil. I'm sure I was a big disappointment to him (or would have been if he hadn't drank himself to death). Of course he did tell Dad (after I took something apart when I was about 2 or so) "if that little bastard is gonna take shit apart you'd best learn him to put it back together."
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 06:38 PM (DaUUd)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 21, 2012 10:37 PM
I have a Russian Bayonet named Sting
Posted by: Beto Ochoa at December 21, 2012 06:39 PM (BAnPT)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 06:41 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: kalneva at December 21, 2012 06:42 PM (S+/pH)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 10:41 PM (66ST/)
yeah, what's up with that, dude? can we help in any way?
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 06:42 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 06:42 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 06:42 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Thorvald at December 21, 2012 06:43 PM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 21, 2012 06:43 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: Beto Ochoa at December 21, 2012 10:39 PM (BAnPT)
I have a Russian bayonet also (goes on my Mosin) but I didn't name it. That's just wierd.
The Mosin's name is Ivana. Means "God is good" cause good God does that bitch kick.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 06:43 PM (DaUUd)
Next, add up the even number digits: 0 + 0= 0.
___________
What does "odd" mean here?
Posted by: Baldy at December 21, 2012 06:44 PM (opS9C)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 06:44 PM (DaUUd)
I pretty much don't leave. When my mom was dying and all that shit, I stuffed the little bastids into carriers (at great personal injury) and took 'em with me. Back when I used to go skiing, I'd pay somebody to live in my pad and be their person. I take being their person pretty seriously.
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 06:44 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 10:41 PM (66ST/)
See post #1, wherein I whine woe is me. :-)
Posted by: and irresolute at December 21, 2012 06:44 PM (DBH1h)
Posted by: Thorvald at December 21, 2012 06:45 PM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 06:46 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: kalneva at December 21, 2012 06:46 PM (S+/pH)
Posted by: Baldy at December 21, 2012 10:44 PM (opS9C)
Odd as in position not in value. 10604 would have the 1, the 6, and the four in places five, three and one respectively (ten thousands, hundreds and ones columns), the zeros would occupy places four and two.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 06:47 PM (DaUUd)
Posted by: Icedog at December 21, 2012 06:47 PM (9ScGj)
Posted by: and irresolute at December 21, 2012 10:44 PM (DBH1h)
that doesn't really explain it, darlin . . . are you in a wheelchair and it sucks and needs to be replaced (in which case, the horde is a pretty giving organism), or are you just having a bad time in your barcalounger? please advise.
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 06:47 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Russkilitlover at December 21, 2012 06:48 PM (OzdzB)
guns
tvs
cars
matches
knives
hammers
Then no child will ever die.
Oh and cancer too. Must ban that.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 21, 2012 06:48 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 21, 2012 06:48 PM (3Y7RV)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 06:48 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: minometer at December 21, 2012 06:49 PM (TvY24)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 06:49 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: kalneva at December 21, 2012 06:49 PM (S+/pH)
Posted by: Thorvald at December 21, 2012 06:50 PM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: minometer at December 21, 2012 06:50 PM (TvY24)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 06:50 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 21, 2012 06:51 PM (jucos)
swimming pools, 5 gallon buckets, stairs, 2 story buildings and days ending in Y (most kids are killed on days ending in Y).
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 06:51 PM (DaUUd)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 21, 2012 06:51 PM (GEICT)
very limited range. not good at air combat. Meant for killing tanks and artillery . A -10 give More Bang for that Buck
Posted by: Lt. Col. Corn at December 21, 2012 06:51 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 06:52 PM (Z9EHQ)
I have a Russian Bayonet named Sting
Posted by: Beto Ochoa at December 21, 2012 10:39 PM (BAnPT)
I have a Russian bayonet also (goes on my Mosin) but I didn't name it. That's just wierd.
The Mosin's name is Ivana. Means "God is good" cause good God does that bitch kick.
My son gave my son-in-law a hatchet for a birthday/Christmas gift. SIL named it Vera.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 21, 2012 06:52 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 06:52 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Thorvald at December 21, 2012 10:50 PM (1V6Pv)
I have a great cold weather sleeping system. It's called "indoors". Technology, ain't it grand?
Yeah, I'm gonna be the first to go in the zombie apocalypse.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 06:53 PM (DaUUd)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 06:53 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 06:53 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 06:53 PM (kpCLl)
Good reason that Moisin kicks, look at the stock--straight back to the shoulder and I bet it has the metal buttplate too.
You could call the Arisaka Chrysanthemum, I guess.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 21, 2012 06:53 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 21, 2012 06:53 PM (jucos)
Posted by: kalneva at December 21, 2012 06:53 PM (S+/pH)
mummy bad inside a polyolefin and aluminized nylon outer bag, standard
closed cell foam pads (2).
Posted by: Thorvald at December 21, 2012 10:50 PM (1V6Pv)
You are out of your fuckin' mind. And, ask around, I know whereof I speak.
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 06:55 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 06:55 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 06:56 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 06:57 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 21, 2012 10:52 PM (DoZD+)
LOL, he must be a browncoat.
Well, the skating rink is closing so I'm shutting down and relocating to home base. BBL roonz and roonettez!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 06:57 PM (DaUUd)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 21, 2012 06:57 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 21, 2012 06:58 PM (jucos)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 06:58 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: AmishDude at December 21, 2012 06:59 PM (xSegX)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 06:59 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 21, 2012 06:59 PM (MgGyQ)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 21, 2012 06:59 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 21, 2012 07:00 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Elizabethe at December 21, 2012 07:00 PM (vc40y)
Posted by: Icedog at December 21, 2012 07:00 PM (9ScGj)
I have woken up in a fuckin' tent with ICE on my pillow. And, yes, I claimed the dog that night. It was crazy . . . up on Palomar or some fuckin' place, but definitely SoCal. Crazy!!
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 07:01 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: kalneva at December 21, 2012 07:01 PM (S+/pH)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:02 PM (66ST/)
I have woken up in a fuckin' tent with ICE on my pillow. And, yes, I claimed the dog that night. It was crazy . . . up on Palomar or some fuckin' place, but definitely SoCal. Crazy!!
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 11:01 PM (kpCLl)
I'd like to go somewhere during winter that has proper snow and build an igloo for a night's shelter...that'd be cool. Pun intended.
Posted by: model_1066 at December 21, 2012 07:03 PM (bmIPO)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:03 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Icedog at December 21, 2012 07:04 PM (9ScGj)
Posted by: Fox2! at December 21, 2012 07:05 PM (1Qpmy)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 21, 2012 07:06 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Icedog at December 21, 2012 11:04 PM (9ScGj)
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Nogs are tough to trap. They are wiley.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 21, 2012 11:06 PM (jucos)
Disease wiped out most of the farmed Nogs in Antarctica.
Posted by: model_1066 at December 21, 2012 07:07 PM (bmIPO)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 21, 2012 07:09 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:09 PM (66ST/)
Hey guys didn't mean to start any bad feelings on the last thread... I was just recommending my favorite gun to Mr. Moo Moo for reasons of my own. I do understand that stopping power is a major part of a home defense weapon and therefore bigger calibers are recommended. But....
1. the buck mark is relatively inexpensive to purchase therefore he won't have to choose between paying the mortage and getting a gun. I've never ever (like ever) thought of selling my buck marks... way too much fun with em over the years and they were my first so they'll be with me till the end...plus I'd only get a couple hundred for one so it's worth more as a hidden safety net kind of weapon at home...
2. a brick of .22s will let you shoot on the cheap and alot... allowing you to not only get comfortable with guns but to actually become accurate with them as well.
3. the buck mark has a lot less recoil so a new gun buyer or a *ahem* female friend of new guy buyer will likely enjoy shooting it much more so than say a .45. If a person or persons is affraid of firearms or whatever- a .22 is a great way to start and to get a person to stay interested in firearms.... then... like me.... they will move onward and upward and buy all kinds of guns with all kinds of calibers and eventually forget some of what they even own.... like McCain and his houses.
4. I have talked to people that have purchased handguns before and ended up selling them because they didn't shoot them enough and/or was too expensive to shoot... and/or they didn't like the recoil. These things matter to first time gun owners.... not so much to people like me who are bitter clinger wack jobs who will not part with a gun once purchased.
5. I owned my buck mark for a year or so before I bought a 9mm (for home defense), then a remington marine magnum ( because, that's why), then a...... etc..... etc..... I never would have purchased another gun if I didn't enjoy the buck mark so much. I was just thinking a person should start out with a good inexpensive handgun and use it alot before moving on to the Kimbers or Sigs. That's all. Plus, even though I have many other guns... I still shoot my .22s ( buck mark, GSG5, Ruger 10/22) the most cause they are the cheapest to shoot and good good fun.
6. Feel free to correct me but.... don't home owners often simply have to show the criminal they have a gun or to "rack" a round into the chamber to get said criminal to high tail it out of there? Most guns aren't even fired in a home invasion deal are they?... besides a .22 shot at you in a home is going to sound pretty loud anyway so the criminal will likely leave as fast as possible anyway yes? Plus, I would bet a .22 is gonna hurt like hell when it hits ya... and it will hit the criminal as the buck mark is accurate as all get out... even in the 4 and a half or 5 inch barrel...
7. Just my thoughts. I realize it's a long post about stuff that most likely has been hashed and rehashed here at AceofSpadehq.
8. Merry Christmas to you all. Wishing you all health and happiness in the New Year!
-James
Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at December 21, 2012 07:10 PM (e/RKY)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 07:10 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Shel at December 21, 2012 07:10 PM (PtId/)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 21, 2012 07:11 PM (jucos)
Posted by: CDR M at December 21, 2012 07:12 PM (dKV5k)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 21, 2012 07:12 PM (jucos)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 07:13 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 10:34 PM (DaUUd)
Shit, it sounds like you granddad had a hell of a newsletter business. Do you have any leftover issues of it?
Posted by: MrCaniac at December 21, 2012 07:14 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 07:14 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:16 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 21, 2012 07:16 PM (jucos)
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Posted by: The Dude at December 21, 2012 07:17 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Icedog at December 21, 2012 07:18 PM (9ScGj)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:18 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 07:20 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 07:20 PM (XDC0v)
Some Guy,
A friend of mine came home from work and found a large young man working on his gun-safe with a crow-bar.
He drew his "AMT Backup" .380, and yelled at the guy, who promptly stood-up and charged Lonnie with the crow-bar.
Lonnie shot him twice "Center Mass" with the .380, then turned and ran for his life.
The guy with the crow-bar chased him for almost a block, before he died.
The .380 was loaded with Winchester Silver-Tip hollow-points, and Lonnie hit him twice in the heart.
The man was dead, but didn't know it, yet.
Confronting an intruder in your home can be deadly, even if you have more gun than a .22.
Just sayin...
Posted by: ChrisP at December 21, 2012 07:20 PM (HiPJm)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:20 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at December 21, 2012 07:21 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 07:22 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 07:23 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at December 21, 2012 11:10 PM (e/RKY)
The 22 can and will inflict a lot of damage, and I have never had anyone take me up on the offer to test fire a round at them so that they can shake it off. That being said, a crackhead or methhead probably wouldn't be slowed down by it unless you put a couple in their noggin.
Posted by: MrCaniac at December 21, 2012 07:23 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:23 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Ktgreat at December 21, 2012 07:23 PM (2GN35)
Posted by: Nog makers Local 244 at December 21, 2012 07:24 PM (3Y7RV)
Posted by: Invictus at December 21, 2012 07:24 PM (OQpzc)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:25 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 07:25 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at December 21, 2012 07:25 PM (79AXR)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 11:23 PM (66ST/)
Back at you Tamtastic!! Go read that cute joke I got from realjoe ealier. Too funny, I started reading and got all offended that someone would send me some holier than thou shit about drunk driving. And then, punch line, loved it!!
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 07:26 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 21, 2012 07:26 PM (3Y7RV)
Posted by: Icedog at December 21, 2012 07:26 PM (9ScGj)
Posted by: Invictus at December 21, 2012 07:26 PM (OQpzc)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:26 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 07:26 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 21, 2012 07:26 PM (jPVBi)
Posted by: MrCaniac at December 21, 2012 07:26 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at December 21, 2012 11:25 PM (79AXR)
But you're supposed to shit on the first amendment to show your love for the second.....or at least that is what people did earlier
Posted by: The Dude at December 21, 2012 07:28 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 21, 2012 07:28 PM (3Y7RV)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:28 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 07:28 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Ktgreat at December 21, 2012 07:29 PM (2GN35)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 07:29 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:29 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 07:30 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 07:30 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:31 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 07:31 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 21, 2012 07:32 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Barky Shiznitz at December 21, 2012 07:34 PM (kpCLl)
Other than that, no...
Posted by: ChrisP at December 21, 2012 07:34 PM (HiPJm)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:34 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at December 21, 2012 11:25 PM (79AXR)
he was great what are you talking about full retard?
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 11:26 PM (Z9EHQ)
Comprehension of what he was doing is lost on some people. It doesn't help that DrewM is in a fight with Gabe Malor over which one of them is PMSing more this week.
Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2012 07:34 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 11:31 PM (Z9EHQ)
didn't say he did (though blaming other inanimate objects is equally retarded), just people in the thread earlier
Posted by: The Dude at December 21, 2012 07:34 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at December 21, 2012 07:35 PM (53riN)
Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2012 11:34 PM (GULKT)
you so bad, buzz . . . love you!
Posted by: Barky Shiznitz at December 21, 2012 07:35 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 07:36 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:36 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 21, 2012 11:32 PM (jucos)
Iron Eyes tears not for trash. Iron Eyes cry since Nogs go away. Iron Eyes sad.
Posted by: Iron Eyes Cody at December 21, 2012 07:36 PM (Zd/NW)
adrenaline up and tissue well oxygenated, you're good to go, for a while, but you're getting no more. You can run until it's exhausted.
It happened...
Posted by: ChrisP at December 21, 2012 07:36 PM (HiPJm)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 07:37 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 21, 2012 07:37 PM (jPVBi)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 07:37 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 07:38 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:39 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 07:39 PM (gh+mp)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 21, 2012 07:39 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 07:39 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Icedog at December 21, 2012 07:40 PM (9ScGj)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 07:40 PM (gh+mp)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 07:43 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 21, 2012 07:43 PM (CIndg)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 07:43 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2012 07:43 PM (n5262)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 21, 2012 07:43 PM (6rcHp)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 11:39 PM (XDC0v)
Yep, La Pierre spoke with some balls by laying the blame on stupider shit than the stupid thought that guns caused the Sandy bullshit. Passing the blame buck is quite manly
wish I could load this page, sign in and order this
Posted by: The Dude at December 21, 2012 07:44 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 07:44 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: RWC at December 21, 2012 07:44 PM (sqp6o)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:44 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 07:46 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 07:46 PM (gh+mp)
Died of boredom waiting for that extended drum solo to end so that he could play his bass.
Posted by: grease monkey at December 21, 2012 07:47 PM (VSWPU)
...on a related point, does nutmeg have any other purpose?
Posted by: Icedog at December 21, 2012 11:40 PM (9ScGj)
Alfredo sauce.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2012 07:47 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 11:45 PM (66ST/)
Thanks, went early this morning, actually did the drive-thru. Was so us.
Posted by: lou's a Mrs at December 21, 2012 07:47 PM (adaoe)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:47 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Icedog at December 21, 2012 07:48 PM (9ScGj)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at December 21, 2012 07:48 PM (53riN)
DAve,
They were pretty close, in Lonnies garage, so once the guy came at him, he had no choice. It was run, or eat a crow-bar...
Posted by: ChrisP at December 21, 2012 07:48 PM (HiPJm)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 11:31 PM (66ST/)
We need to have a real honest discussion about the violent gun culture in America, but the only topic that can be discussed is how the evil old rich white republican capitalists use guns to keep the brothers down. To discuss black on black gun violence, rapper gun-related lyrics, or black gang violence would be racist and will not tolerated in a liberal Amerikkka
Posted by: Eric Red Holder at December 21, 2012 07:49 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 11:45 PM (66ST/)
Thanks, went early this morning, actually did the drive-thru. Was so us.
Posted by: lou's a Mrs at December 21, 2012 11:47 PM (adaoe)
Lou! Felicitations!
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2012 07:49 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:49 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2012 07:49 PM (Ds4No)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 07:49 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Berserker at December 21, 2012 07:50 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2012 07:50 PM (n5262)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 07:50 PM (gh+mp)
The classic ragu has nutmeg, but it is often overused.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2012 07:50 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: lou's a Mrs at December 21, 2012 07:50 PM (adaoe)
Posted by: puddleglum at December 21, 2012 07:50 PM (na+kp)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:50 PM (66ST/)
*******************
Sure the Americans with Disabilities Act will figure in the employee's response, including a claim of "reasonable accommodation" under the Act, such as a high-perf exhaust fan over his vealpen.
Posted by: Jim Sonweed at December 21, 2012 07:51 PM (HVtRc)
Posted by: Icedog at December 21, 2012 07:51 PM (9ScGj)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 11:49 PM (XDC0v)
Formatting?
We don't need no sticking formatting!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2012 07:51 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 21, 2012 07:52 PM (FwEla)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 07:52 PM (XDC0v)
Got two more fish today, two tetras, that makes a grand total of 7 now in my 55 gal tank
that's about 7.85 gal per fish
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2012 07:52 PM (Ds4No)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 21, 2012 07:53 PM (jPVBi)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 07:53 PM (gh+mp)
May you two live long and prosper!
(Imagine the Vulcan Split-finger Salute here)!
Blessings be upon you two!
Posted by: ChrisP at December 21, 2012 07:53 PM (HiPJm)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2012 07:53 PM (Ds4No)
Posted by: Icedog at December 21, 2012 11:51 PM (9ScGj)
Same here except it was "crossbows vs longbows" for me.
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 21, 2012 07:53 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at December 21, 2012 07:54 PM (53riN)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 07:54 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2012 07:55 PM (n5262)
Especially since I have a major meeting January 29th.
Posted by: Dianna at December 21, 2012 07:55 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 21, 2012 07:55 PM (jPVBi)
Posted by: Berserker at December 21, 2012 07:55 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:56 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Icedog at December 21, 2012 07:57 PM (9ScGj)
Posted by: Berserker at December 21, 2012 11:55 PM (FMbng)
We have lived together for twelve years, been together 14.
Posted by: lou's a Mrs at December 21, 2012 07:57 PM (adaoe)
Posted by: someone out there at December 21, 2012 07:58 PM (izPgb)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2012 07:58 PM (n5262)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 07:58 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 07:59 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 21, 2012 07:59 PM (FwEla)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at December 21, 2012 07:59 PM (w9BpZ)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2012 11:55 PM (n5262)
Ah, jeez, that sucks, bebe. That sucks bigtime. I'm so sorry. Gushk, if you are lurking, I send you my most heartfelt condolences.
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 07:59 PM (kpCLl)
Got two more fish today, two tetras, that makes a grand total of 7 now in my 55 gal tank
that's about 7.85 gal per fish
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2012 11:52 PM (Ds4No)
What kind of tetras? As an aside, most of 'em are schooling fish, and if you have a big enough tank (and 55 should work for all but the larger ones) and about half a dozen, it's fun to see where they take their little mob.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2012 07:59 PM (kaalw)
Oh, that is too bad!
It's hard, losing the kitties (or dogs). Poor Gushie!
Posted by: Dianna at December 21, 2012 08:00 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:00 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 21, 2012 08:01 PM (FwEla)
Can I blame the sights?
Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 21, 2012 11:59 PM (FwEla)
Only for the first box, kiddo.
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 08:01 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:02 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2012 11:55 PM (n5262)
Awwwww, that's too bad.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2012 08:02 PM (kaalw)
Apparently....telling your hostess that she is ignorant and not entitled to her own facts is enough to get one in hot water with one's spouse.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2012 08:03 PM (GsoHv)
The 44 sails through. Makes a mess, but it overpenetrates. The .22 enters, and bounces around acting like a mixmaster.
A suppressed .22 is a pretty popular hushpuppy the world over. The US govt used to issue the Hi-Standard .22 for that purpose.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 21, 2012 08:03 PM (xpgUt)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 08:03 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 21, 2012 08:03 PM (FwEla)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at December 21, 2012 08:05 PM (w9BpZ)
Can I blame the sights? Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith
I don't think so. I don't care for sig's, but that's because I find they eject funny and more consistently rain brass down on my head and chest (I'm left-handed) than any other gun I've ever fired. But that is possibly idiosyncratic.
Sights, no. Possibly the trigger pull? Could you be jerking to the side or something? I've always found the sig's triggers to break a little stiffly.
Posted by: Dianna at December 21, 2012 08:05 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 21, 2012 08:06 PM (jPVBi)
Most cabbies are hot and sexy
Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 22, 2012 12:01 AM
I'm assuming "cabbie" is a nickname for some tall blonde Scandinavian chicks right?
Posted by: Berserker at December 21, 2012 08:06 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 21, 2012 08:06 PM (FwEla)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:06 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: someone out there at December 21, 2012 08:07 PM (izPgb)
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 08:07 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 08:07 PM (66ST/)
So you know the pleasure of a freshly ejecting case dropping down your shirt and lodging just above your belt?
Yeah....I'm a lefty too, and my 1911 used to do that to me all the time before I had a tiny amount of work done on the port.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2012 08:08 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Icedog at December 21, 2012 08:10 PM (9ScGj)
Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 21, 2012 08:10 PM (FwEla)
**********
Thtiff?
All I know is, thometimeth I get tho thor I can hardly pith!!!
Posted by: Richard Thimmons at December 21, 2012 08:10 PM (HVtRc)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2012 08:11 PM (n5262)
Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 21, 2012 08:11 PM (FwEla)
Posted by: Peaches at December 22, 2012 12:07 AM (kpCLl)
The expensive ones have beer pre-spilled on them and a little bit of puke on the front.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2012 08:11 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Jake in ID at December 21, 2012 08:12 PM (jfSqj)
Yep.
Curiously, breaking in a .22, I ended up with the brass sticking and burning on my upper arm, just inside the t-shirt sleeve.
Posted by: Dianna at December 21, 2012 08:12 PM (mKMj1)
You're left handed? If so, get your index finger joint off the trigger and pull with the fingertip.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 21, 2012 08:13 PM (xpgUt)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 22, 2012 12:11 AM (GsoHv)
Hey, go fuck yaself . . .
Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2012 08:13 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:13 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Icedog at December 22, 2012 12:10 AM
Unless you're in jersey. No hoops here, but there is shit like broomsticks of wicked witches, and forced voyages with some dude named Odysseus.
Posted by: Berserker at December 21, 2012 08:14 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 21, 2012 08:14 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2012 08:14 PM (n5262)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 08:14 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 21, 2012 08:14 PM (FwEla)
Not exactly since delta hit shit so the heavier round makes more sense.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 21, 2012 08:14 PM (Vspmg)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 08:15 PM (Z9EHQ)
Again, I don't like the way the trigger breaks on the sig; but then, I'm a huge fan of the Kimber, which probably says 'snotty' to most people.
Posted by: Dianna at December 21, 2012 08:15 PM (mKMj1)
Lotta loooong distance shooting in A-stan though due to the nature of the terrain.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 21, 2012 08:16 PM (xpgUt)
Posted by: Peaches at December 22, 2012 12:13 AM (kpCLl)
I love you too!
Go Yankees!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2012 08:16 PM (GsoHv)
Long Time. Great clear skies here, but Chilly Willy has been hanging out with us a lot.
Posted by: jc at December 21, 2012 08:16 PM (kfC1R)
well maybe you should be wearing pants
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2012 08:17 PM (Ds4No)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2012 08:17 PM (n5262)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:18 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: The Crypto-Cryptologist at December 21, 2012 08:18 PM (XYpsB)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2012 08:18 PM (Ds4No)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 08:18 PM (gh+mp)
Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 21, 2012 08:18 PM (LFN8n)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 08:18 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:19 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 08:19 PM (Z9EHQ)
well maybe you should be wearing pants
Posted by: chemjeff at December 22, 2012 12:17 AM (Ds4No)
===
is that allowed?
Posted by: jc at December 21, 2012 08:20 PM (kfC1R)
Make sure you get your pick in for tomorrow night's nfl game.
Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2012 08:20 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 08:20 PM (gh+mp)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 21, 2012 08:20 PM (o1kXv)
I sure hope so.
I'm thinking January. The trains should all be running by then.
nynjmeet at optimum dot net if anyone wants in on the e-mail list.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2012 08:20 PM (GsoHv)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_21_Bobcat
I've got one in .22LR. Its a good concealable weapon for light summer clothing. Not quite as small as the Baby Browning clones like the PSP, but more reliable.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 21, 2012 08:21 PM (xpgUt)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:21 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 21, 2012 08:21 PM (LFN8n)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 08:21 PM (66ST/)
say, you're a regular Don Juan, right?
any suggestions on what to cook for Velma tomorrow night?
she doesn't like beef, chicken or pork is okay
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2012 08:22 PM (Ds4No)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 08:22 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:23 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 21, 2012 08:23 PM (xpgUt)
Posted by: Berserker at December 21, 2012 08:23 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 22, 2012 12:03 AM (xpgUt)
I have a Hi Standard, model HB, it was Grand-dads. Great shooting little gun.
What did I miss?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 08:23 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 08:23 PM (gh+mp)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 22, 2012 12:18 AM (66ST/)
===
yeah, but with all the global warming it ain't so bad. besides, it's a dry cold.
Posted by: jc at December 21, 2012 08:23 PM (kfC1R)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2012 08:23 PM (n5262)
Posted by: chemjeff
I'm no expert cook, but I remember that a guy who gave me a meal that was simple and tasty got way more points than a guy who screwed up something elaborate. I don't know what kind of cook you are, but if you like the lady and know what she'd like in general, you can't go wrong keeping it simple and not making a mess of it.
Posted by: Dianna at December 21, 2012 08:23 PM (mKMj1)
Chicks and guns.
It makes you seem smokin' hot in our minds' eyes.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2012 08:24 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 08:24 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:24 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 21, 2012 08:24 PM (66ST/)
Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 21, 2012 08:24 PM (LFN8n)
What "ranks"? I'm sorry, but that's just silly.
I've a Kimber Eclipse II. It's my beloved.
Posted by: Dianna at December 21, 2012 08:25 PM (mKMj1)
Tell me what you feel like eating, and I'll do a post on a good, simple meal that satisfies your requirements.
nynjmeet at optimum dot net
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2012 08:26 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 21, 2012 08:27 PM (LFN8n)
I will have to ponder that one, one problem is that the dishes that I'm best at are Italian dishes, and Velma actually lived in Italy for a while so she knows first hand what "authentic" Italian food is, and my food is not that, so.... I will have to think of something
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2012 08:27 PM (Ds4No)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2012 08:28 PM (n5262)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 21, 2012 08:28 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:28 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Jake in ID at December 21, 2012 08:29 PM (jfSqj)
In stainless
She always wanted a Kimber Posted by: Navycopjoe
Damn, NCJ! I'm not surprised she was pleased! Yow!
Very nice choice!
Posted by: Dianna at December 21, 2012 08:29 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:30 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2012 08:30 PM (n5262)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:30 PM (XDC0v)
I was at the range today, darn busy. This cute 30 something couple with two cute 7 and 10 year old girls put on their gear, dad walks up to the counter and asked if they had any step stools for the girls.
I'm thinkin' NO WAY, really? Step stools?
I took a look out on the floor later and there they were. The 10 year old was ripping a target with a 22. I really was blown away. Yay. Some people get it.
Beats the bowling alley.
Posted by: Derak at December 21, 2012 08:31 PM (lkjWK)
Over-penetration with that round has to be a concern.
Of course the 5.56 is moving damned fast, and with that small a surface area isn't going to expand much even with a hollow point.
I would hate to hit my neighbors by mistake, although at least one is a flaming lib, so.........
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2012 08:31 PM (GsoHv)
Right or wrong I get the reason for the military in general to use the 5.56 since a 1000 rounds weighs so much less. Playing or target shooting are way different than a fire fight. The 5.56 may not obliterate a guy but it sure slows him down so I get a better chance to shoot him again with the extra ammo I can carry. That and the tumbling.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 21, 2012 08:31 PM (Vspmg)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 22, 2012 12:14 AM (JMmQ9)
Dead bodies aren't enough of a statement?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 08:31 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at December 21, 2012 08:32 PM (9+ccr)
Anyway, that, a salad and lightly steamed asparagus, and Bob's your uncle for making a nice dinner that most ladies would appreciate.
Or, back when I was single, I would!
Posted by: Dianna at December 21, 2012 08:33 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 22, 2012 12:31 AM (Vspmg)
The perfect military round would be a 100% first shot disabler causing maximum damage but not killing.
That way the enemy has to use all of its resources for every hit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2012 08:34 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 21, 2012 08:34 PM (xpgUt)
And with that, my dogs require walking and then I think I shall retire. Good night!
Posted by: Dianna at December 21, 2012 08:35 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: Jake in ID at December 21, 2012 08:36 PM (jfSqj)
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 22, 2012 12:34 AM (xpgUt)
Frangible .308 vs. frangible 45ACP vs. #4 buckshot?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2012 08:36 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 21, 2012 08:36 PM (Ai+tZ)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 08:36 PM (yh0zB)
I am cooking dinner for her tomorrow
Posted by: chemjeff at December 22, 2012 12:14 AM (Ds4No)
Just as long as that kissing thing wasn't a one-off.....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2012 08:37 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 08:38 PM (yh0zB)
When I hear glass breaking in the middle of the night, I'm not grabbing a .308, I'm grabbing a pistol or shotgun.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 21, 2012 08:39 PM (xpgUt)
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 21, 2012 08:39 PM (Ai+tZ)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2012 08:40 PM (n5262)
Posted by: Jake in ID at December 21, 2012 08:40 PM (jfSqj)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2012 08:40 PM (Ds4No)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 21, 2012 08:41 PM (bxiXv)
Which is the design idea behind the 5.56 I assume your alluding to. For home defense from zombies I have chosen the 7.62 for it's cheapness of delivery and I don't have to hump the rounds cross country.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 21, 2012 08:41 PM (Vspmg)
Posted by: The Chicken at December 21, 2012 08:41 PM (xpgUt)
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 22, 2012 12:39 AM (xpgUt)
I'm grabbing the pistol and heading towards the shotgun, with a quick detour by the phone (to get the amber lamps rolling).
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 08:41 PM (yh0zB)
Exactly.
I have a .40 S and W at bedside, and I am thinking about a Santa Cruz lock setup for a short barrel pump.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2012 08:42 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: Jake in ID at December 21, 2012 08:43 PM (jfSqj)
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 22, 2012 12:39 AM (Ai+tZ)
Dude, this is Chemjeff you're talking about here. He's made of game.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 08:43 PM (yh0zB)
if the game is called Tiddlywinks, then yeah
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2012 08:44 PM (Ds4No)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 22, 2012 12:41 AM (yh0zB)
Newtown CT.
1.6 miles.
20 minutes.
Don't hold your breath.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2012 08:44 PM (GsoHv)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 22, 2012 12:44 AM (Ds4No)
so...just try for the socks then, right?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 08:45 PM (yh0zB)
I've got a simple recipe I used to make back when I was a single lad squiring the ladies around.
Sour cream and mushroom chicken
4 chicken breasts, boneless or bone in
1 jar/package Armour dried beef
1 can cream of mushroom soup
8 oz sour cream
1/2 can chicken broth
Preheat oven to 350, line a glass baking dish with the dried beef. Place chicken on top of dried beef. Mix sour cream, soup, and broth then pour over chicken. Bake for 60 minutes. Serve over rice or noodles.
Make sure you buy some rubbers because it never failed me.
Posted by: MrCaniac at December 21, 2012 08:45 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 22, 2012 12:44 AM (GsoHv)
Gotta have someone pick up the body.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 08:45 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 21, 2012 08:45 PM (Ai+tZ)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 22, 2012 12:45 AM (yh0zB)
chemjeff has a foot fetish?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2012 08:46 PM (GsoHv)
Must be nice to sleep at night knowing you're protected like that. All my guns and ammo were eaten by burrowing PVC worms so I'm defenseless.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 21, 2012 08:47 PM (Vspmg)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2012 08:47 PM (n5262)
CBD no, no foot fetish as of yet
MrCaniac, that is a great idea, but what can I use to substitute for the dried beef?
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2012 08:48 PM (Ds4No)
If you live in Detroit, people are just dumping them in the street or abandoned houses these days.
I hate it when people litter like that though.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 21, 2012 08:48 PM (xpgUt)
has a foot fetish?
Hey now, nekkid ankles are a start.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2012 12:47 AM (n5262)
How about some ambition -- he should aim higher!
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2012 08:49 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 22, 2012 12:47 AM (Vspmg)
*looks for ATF agent* uh, yeah...I mean, that's what I would do, if I had any guns that is...lost them all in an unfortunate canoe accident...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 08:49 PM (yh0zB)
Which is the design idea behind the 5.56 I assume your alluding to. For home defense from zombies I have chosen the 7.62 for it's cheapness of delivery and I don't have to hump the rounds cross country.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 22, 2012 12:41 AM (Vspmg)
If we are talking zombies, then the 22 is all you need. A shot just needs to enter the brain pan and the higher calibers may have the stopping power, but that is useless on a zombie. Plus you can carry an asston of the stuff. And it is cheap. And you can find that caliber anywhere.
Posted by: MrCaniac at December 21, 2012 08:49 PM (Zd/NW)
has a foot fetish?
Hey now, nekkid ankles are a start.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2012 12:47 AM (n5262)
That's Amish Playboy material right there.
Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2012 08:49 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 21, 2012 08:50 PM (xpgUt)
Posted by: zeera at December 21, 2012 08:50 PM (fHLmF)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:50 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 22, 2012 12:48 AM (Ds4No)
BACON!!!!
actually that might work pretty good...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 08:50 PM (yh0zB)
MrCaniac, that is a great idea, but what can I use to substitute for the dried beef?
Posted by: chemjeff at December 22, 2012 12:48 AM (Ds4No)
Not the rubbers.
Honestly, I don't know. Some ham would probably work well.
Posted by: MrCaniac at December 21, 2012 08:51 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2012 08:52 PM (n5262)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:52 PM (XDC0v)
but I am getting sleepy now, going to bed
urgh, I hope it gets easier
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2012 08:53 PM (Ds4No)
No If we are talking Zombies I get to make up any crazy ass thing I want.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 21, 2012 08:54 PM (Vspmg)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 22, 2012 12:49 AM (kaalw)
Calves?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 08:54 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:54 PM (XDC0v)
One shot to the head for each and they went down like they'd been pole axed, without a twitch.
People underestimate what a well placed .22 can do.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 21, 2012 08:55 PM (xpgUt)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2012 08:55 PM (n5262)
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 21, 2012 08:55 PM (Ai+tZ)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 08:56 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:56 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 22, 2012 12:55 AM (xpgUt)
Shot placement is key. Plenty of folks ended up in a graveyard from a .22 bullet.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 08:57 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 21, 2012 08:57 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2012 08:58 PM (n5262)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:58 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Deety at December 21, 2012 08:58 PM (8eLGd)
Some houses are being built with sheathing only on the corners to keep'em from falling down. In the middle is just vinyl siding, tyvek, insulation and 1/2" interior sheetrock
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 21, 2012 08:59 PM (xpgUt)
If you want really fancy, you do the egg wash and breadcrumbs bit and don't put the meat back in the pan, serve the pan sauce over top (needs to be runnier). If you want extra special fancy, egg wash the meat, wrap a single slice of prosciutto over that, egg wash the prosciutto and put on the breadcrumbs.
One thing, though, are you cooking at her place or yours? 'Cause it's a bit of a chore for cleanup.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2012 08:59 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 21, 2012 08:59 PM (MgGyQ)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 08:59 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2012 12:58 AM (n5262)
I read the sad news on the book of faces. Condolences to Gushie.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 09:00 PM (yh0zB)
Shit if I get to control the environment/surprise the attacker a well place Ice pick has filled many a graveyard.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 21, 2012 09:00 PM (Vspmg)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 09:00 PM (gh+mp)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 09:03 PM (XDC0v)
Ruger Mk II heavy barrel w/RedDot scope. ~30'
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 21, 2012 09:03 PM (xpgUt)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 22, 2012 01:00 AM (Vspmg)\
True. You are the weapon, anything you use is just a tool. Some tools are better than others, but in the end...you are the weapon.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 09:03 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 09:05 PM (gh+mp)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 09:05 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 21, 2012 09:05 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: RWC at December 21, 2012 09:05 PM (sqp6o)
I'm liable to shoot the stove and saute it.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 21, 2012 09:05 PM (cHZB7)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 09:07 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 09:08 PM (gh+mp)
Fuck I am so sick of this argument. If a killer is in my house, I'm going to shoot him with the first thing that I lay my hands on. Odds being what they are a round traveling through at least one of my walls and then actual hitting and killing a neighbor is the last of my worries. I also see guns as tools so the ones I will need for a particular job will likely be in the room they are needed. But if the 7.62(Pliers) is closer than the pistol(crescent wrench) guess which one I'm using.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 21, 2012 09:08 PM (Vspmg)
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 21, 2012 09:09 PM (Ai+tZ)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 09:10 PM (gh+mp)
Posted by: RWC at December 21, 2012 09:11 PM (sqp6o)
Posted by: Ken Royall at December 21, 2012 09:11 PM (x0g8a)
Put "Nauga" into a popular search engine you trust, and you should find half a cozen Naugahyde ads from the 60's. They were just a scream. You can still buy the dolls.
______________________________________
So, a guy I knew lived in Detroit in the Golden Age, and used to get pretty fucked up. One time, walking along Beaubien Blvd, he found a dead guy in the street. There was a phone booth nearby, and he managed to stagger in and call the cops. "Where did you say this was?" the dispatcher asked. He looked up at the street sign, perplexed. "Wait a minute," he told the cop. "I'll drag him over to John R."
Posted by: comatus at December 21, 2012 09:11 PM (qaVK+)
I think 9mm hollowpoints make a lot of sense.
Posted by: Warden at December 21, 2012 09:12 PM (0DlnM)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 09:12 PM (gh+mp)
He was big kid too...200+lb for a 12yo. One .22 was all it took, and that .22 had to penetrate the floor boards of the tree house to get to him too.
The shooter was juvie too and their name was concealed from the public. I only found out who did it and some of the details several decades later.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 21, 2012 09:12 PM (xpgUt)
Posted by: Buffalobob at December 21, 2012 09:13 PM (x+7qA)
Apocolypse guranteed or your money back.
(NOTE: We couldn't predict our own demise, so maybe you shouldn't be listening to us.)
Posted by: Mayan Guy at December 21, 2012 09:14 PM (FQaoz)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 21, 2012 09:14 PM (MgGyQ)
say, you're a regular Don Juan, right?
any suggestions on what to cook for Velma tomorrow night?
she doesn't like beef, chicken or pork is okay
With chicken, you can always go with Chicken Cordon Bleu. Stuff some chicken breasts with sliced ham and swiss, dredge in flour, eggs and breadcrumbs and then pan fry. Chop up a couple of slices of bacon and render out the fat in a pan, add washed green beans and cook until tender, finish off with a splash of lemon juice and a pat of butter. Finally, cook some carrots in a pot or in a foil bag in the oven with some white wine and a little butter until they're tender. Add a white wine and you're set.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 21, 2012 09:16 PM (o1kXv)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 09:16 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Warden at December 21, 2012 09:16 PM (0DlnM)
Looks like he gets to be home for Christmas, then off he goes. Fuck.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 21, 2012 09:16 PM (cHZB7)
Posted by: zeera at December 21, 2012 09:16 PM (FHr35)
Posted by: zeera at December 21, 2012 09:19 PM (FHr35)
I have a friend who is a bit of a know it all. She thinks that whatever she does is the best. Her credit union, her car dealership, her doctors, I could go on.
Well, she has been pushing me to go to her credit union and I've found that their rates are well below what I'm getting. She's been pushing this for a long time, so I emailed her the research I've done. She looked at the rates and commented next time she wanted a color pie chart, which I thought was rather bitchy.
She claims that she's getting way, way higher unadvertised rates because she has a home loan, car loans, cd, 2 savings accounts, money markets and so on. But does say that she thinks it's OK for me to stay where I am. At no point did I ask her for her opinion on that.
Now... she is not in good financial shape and has recently taken out a loan against her husbands insurance policy to pay for her credit cards. She is in denial over all that, and, a few weeks ago, she was so stressed i thought she was going to have a heart attack. Overall, I'm much more financially responsible than her.
She is a good friend.
How do I respond. Do I:
1. Ignore the whole topic and realize she is a good person but sometimes is a know it all who has to be right.
2. Call her bluff and ask for all the details of all the rates she's presently getting?
Opinons? I really don't know what to do, and it really grates on me to be treated like I'm a financial idiot when in fact, my finances are 100% better than hers.
Posted by: shibumi at December 21, 2012 09:19 PM (z63Tr)
If you read my comment you may have seen this.
<< I also see guns as tools so the ones I will need for a particular job will likely be in the room they are needed.>>
So yes the .40 would likely be the first choice in the bedroom but not in the garage or basement.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 21, 2012 09:20 PM (Vspmg)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 09:20 PM (XDC0v)
(it's the one about being dicks to the liberals in your life, right?)
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 21, 2012 09:21 PM (cHZB7)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 09:22 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 21, 2012 09:23 PM (Ai+tZ)
Opinons? I really don't know what to do, and it really grates on me to be treated like I'm a financial idiot when in fact, my finances are 100% better than hers.
Thank her for her advice, but tell her you've decided to stay with your current bank. If she continues to insist, tell her that her continued talk makes it unpleasant to be with her and you would prefer not to discuss the matter any more. If she doesn't relent, then you need to cut ties.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 21, 2012 09:23 PM (o1kXv)
Just let it go. Give her a polite blowoff and forget it.
Never take financial advice from people who are in debt.
Posted by: Warden at December 21, 2012 09:24 PM (0DlnM)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 09:24 PM (XDC0v)
My congressman and me
Around Georgetown we did roam
Meeting all night
Got into a fight
Well I feel so broke that
I wanna go home
Posted by: kbdabear at December 21, 2012 09:24 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 09:25 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 09:26 PM (gh+mp)
It sounds like you could give her better advice than she gives herself.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 21, 2012 09:26 PM (cHZB7)
Posted by: That drive-by Mindful Guy at December 21, 2012 09:27 PM (1W1S7)
2. Call her bluff and ask for all the details of all the rates she's presently getting?
Opinons? I really don't know what to do, and it really grates on me to be treated like I'm a financial idiot when in fact, my finances are 100% better than hers.
Posted by: shibumi at December 22, 2012 01:19 AM (z63Tr)
Personally I like option 2, but I never could stand people that thought whatever they had was always the best and "oh you have one of those other ones."
Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2012 09:27 PM (GULKT)
That's actually a small step towards responsibility. Loans against life insurance are usually quite cheap and can often be configured to pay themselves off using a "dividend" amount that might otherwise be used to buy automatic "paid up" insurance.
If you want the keep her as a friend, STFU, and accept that some people's lives are a trainwreck.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 21, 2012 09:27 PM (xpgUt)
Posted by: RWC at December 21, 2012 09:28 PM (sqp6o)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 09:28 PM (gh+mp)
Tell her you've moved all your money to where she has hers. But don't do that since you appear to be smarter than her. Cause you shouldn't lie to a wife/husband but a friend should expect it if they push stupid ass crap.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 21, 2012 09:29 PM (Vspmg)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 21, 2012 09:31 PM (MgGyQ)
Posted by: zeera]
Thanks. I figured I'd catch a bunch of shit for the length. I'm happy that people liked it.
Posted by: Warden at December 21, 2012 09:33 PM (0DlnM)
you is a talented man! Posted by: Adriane at December 22, 2012 01:28 AM
Wait till I'm awake and I can do the rest of the verses
So puff up John B's sails
See how the main fail gets
All for the Speaker abhorred
Let me go home
Posted by: kbdabear at December 21, 2012 09:33 PM (wwsoB)
Posted by: RWC at December 21, 2012 09:34 PM (sqp6o)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 09:34 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 21, 2012 09:35 PM (Vspmg)
Should be captioned, and saved for the AoS photoshop archives
http://tinyurl.com/crezktb
Posted by: kbdabear at December 21, 2012 09:35 PM (wwsoB)
But... on the advice of the horde, I'm going to just let it go and have deleted the snarky email I was going to send.
As for why.... I have no idea what her vested interest in getting me to join her credit union is- maybe she'll get some sort of cash for a referral. In fact, that could be it. However, I'm happy where I am, and will stay there. Plus, if she knew me better, she would know it's pretty hard to simply "convince" me to do things without hard facts, which she doesn't have.
Plus.. I think the holidays plus financial stress plus other things- like the shootings in CT- have kind of made her nuts.
Sigh.
Once again "do nothing" wins.
Maybe I'll find a liberal to argue with in the next few days to get out my stress....
Posted by: shibumi at December 21, 2012 09:37 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: Donna V. at December 21, 2012 09:38 PM (BStAJ)
Let it burn is how we phrase it but close enough.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 22, 2012 01:40 AM
You know, when you put it that way, I like the option much more.
Maybe "let it burn" should be my mantra for 2013.
Posted by: shibumi at December 21, 2012 09:44 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: RWC at December 21, 2012 09:53 PM (sqp6o)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 21, 2012 09:55 PM (Vspmg)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 09:57 PM (gh+mp)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 09:58 PM (XDC0v)
Thank You DAve that was worth the read and I had missed it somehow.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 21, 2012 10:07 PM (Vspmg)
Posted by: The Dude at December 21, 2012 10:07 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: harleycowboy at December 21, 2012 10:08 PM (+9AX9)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 10:12 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 10:14 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: s☺mej☼e at December 21, 2012 10:15 PM (SSWdi)
Isn't that plan dependent on what you ate for dinner?
Which then brings up the 5.56 vs 7.62 debate only with food?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 21, 2012 10:17 PM (Vspmg)
Lee Dorman checks out.
Authorities say Lee Dorman, the bassist of psychedelic rock band Iron Butterfly, has died at age 70.
Orange County Sheriff's Department spokeswoman Gail Krause says Dorman was found dead in a vehicle Friday morning. A coroner's investigation is under way, but foul play is not suspected.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at December 21, 2012 10:20 PM (rzTDZ)
Have a Merry Christmas all and a Happy New Year (since my internet connection will be spotty while I'm on vacay from work)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 21, 2012 10:26 PM (Vspmg)
Posted by: teej at December 21, 2012 10:27 PM (1MXyW)
Posted by: Dan K at December 21, 2012 10:32 PM (plRe9)
Posted by: The Dude at December 21, 2012 10:36 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 10:37 PM (gh+mp)
Posted by: SFGoth at December 21, 2012 10:52 PM (nSs/B)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 21, 2012 11:05 PM (I2LwF)
I have a dozen or so guns and read up on guns that I like and gun laws so I'm generally knowledgeable. When I go on the gun forums I feel like a total newb because guys there really know their shit about every aspect of firearms so I considered myself in the 25 percentile or so about firearms knowledge.
THEN this Connecticut shooting happened and the leftards came out of the woodwork spouting what they think that they know about firearms. Holy shit, I'm a freakin' expert compared to these people. High capacity clips, high powered assault rifles, AK47 hunting rifles, military grade killing machines, private ownership or tanks... I've never heard so much concentrated bullshit in all of my life. I'm sick of trying to educate, now I just throw out snark.
My next project is to get my "Just confiscate the assault rifles" 18 YO lefty nephew to the gun range and put some fucking hair on his weak chest.
Posted by: Max Entropy at December 21, 2012 11:06 PM (NwTXA)
This product was given a full 24 hours to deliver on its promises. We found the ads appealing and packaging ample, but the assembly instructions were lacking in critical details, and key parts were missing from the hardware package forcing us to make a midnight trip to Walmart to complete assembly.
Once assembled, the doomsday proved an impressive sight and was generously festooned with mesmerizing shiny things. We gazed at it for hours in this state of unactivated repose. It really was an impressive piece of work.
The proof of course is always in the pudding. What precisely would it do when the batteries were installed and it was switched on? Could this glittering apparatus of planetary destruction deliver the goods using only the 4 included D cells?
Admittedly, we were skeptical. One would presume such a highly billed product capable of ending the world needs a bit more power than the Energizer bunny. Perhaps it would draw its real power from the space-time fabric and the D cells were only needed to open the gateway and power a few flashing LED's for show to make it look like something was going on?
Anyway, we flipped the switch. Not much happened other than some LED's started flashing. OK, destroying worlds can take some time, we understand that. So, off to McD's to spend our last hours on earth snarfing down Dollar Menu items like there was no tomorrow, whist the doomsday worked it magic.
Get home, still nothing. OK, maybe destroying the world is kinda an overnight thing, like letting paint dry. The LED's are still flashing furiously, so the D cells haven't gone flat yet. Maybe this thing works like a flux capacitor? It's gotta charge up through the space-time power source before its hellish nature can be released? Of course, that's the ticket. It simply needs to charge up. By morning, we'll be ready so see this doomsday really kicking it.
We bound out of bed, the sun is shining, its a new day and the LED's are still flashing! Outstanding. But nothing else is going on either...
...its not even humming. Horrible engines of destruction should at least hum shouldn't they? Of course they should. They always do in the movies. Perhaps we were sold a defective doomday? After all, it did come with a money back lifetime warranty printed on very elegant high rag content watermarked certificate suitable for framing. The TV ads confidently proclaimed "satisfaction guaranteed or your money back".
OK, so we're gonna take a look inside and see if maybe its just a loose wire or something simple like that. Off comes the "easy maintenance" cover and we peek inside. Nothing there. No guts. No machinery. No space-time portal generators...just a few crumpled up Twinkie wrappers and a glob of chewing gum.
When I was a little kid, I thought those "X-Ray Specs" would work too, but they didn't.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 21, 2012 11:08 PM (xpgUt)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 21, 2012 11:08 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 11:10 PM (gh+mp)
Posted by: The Dude at December 21, 2012 11:14 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 11:15 PM (gh+mp)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 11:16 PM (gh+mp)
Posted by: Adriane at December 21, 2012 11:18 PM (gh+mp)
All krausened and unpasteurized.
All were very good. C02 levels were on the low side and poured with almost no head. The high alpha hop beers mellowed considerably - I'm not a big fan of IPA style beers. The stouts aged very well, one crown came off black/purple - black patent malt has a purple hue - so the malt somehow stained the inner plastic liner. The Bigfoot was very diacetyl - kinda disappointed with that outcome-
I'm not a barleywine fan but had high hopes for this 9.5%alc beer.
The 18th anniv. celebration ale was the best beer i've ever had the pleasure of drinking.
Posted by: 13times at December 21, 2012 11:22 PM (h6XiD)
Posted by: Adriane at December 22, 2012 03:16 AM (gh+mp)
well, I bought this pack but the only things I want our of it is Dishonored, Doom 3 BFG and Rage. So now I have copies of Brink, Oblivion, Morrowind, Skyrim, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Hunted and Rogue Warrior sitting there.
Though I might keep Rogue Warrior if nothing else for Mickey Rourke's slow jam
http://tinyurl.com/ydubowd
Posted by: The Dude at December 21, 2012 11:23 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 21, 2012 11:26 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 11:26 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 21, 2012 11:27 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 11:28 PM (XDC0v)
Posted by: Zakn at December 22, 2012 03:26 AM (oWCCL)
no but hop onto steam
Posted by: The Dude at December 21, 2012 11:28 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: The Dude at December 21, 2012 11:32 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Zakn at December 21, 2012 11:36 PM (MTSwl)
Posted by: DAve at December 21, 2012 11:38 PM (XDC0v)
do you know that your comment has also shown up as a new post?
Was this an accident or on purpose?
I think I see what happened, you made a comment that then showed up as a post? Or you decided it was so good you bumped it.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka 3 tooth) at December 22, 2012 12:02 AM (3E2th)
Posted by: nraendowment at December 22, 2012 12:06 AM (1+CnU)
So tonight I do the massive update and find that after all these years Nintendo is still clueless about identity management and portability. The Nintendo franchises better be really good or this thing is going to be Nintendo's last console. Some major improvement to the software to up the performance and offer better structure could save it but I'm not holding my breath.
Posted by: epobirs at December 22, 2012 12:08 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Deety at December 22, 2012 12:18 AM (8eLGd)
Posted by: Deety at December 22, 2012 12:38 AM (8eLGd)
Posted by: HAL9000 at December 22, 2012 12:47 AM (SSWdi)
Posted by: Zakn at December 22, 2012 12:57 AM (zyaZ1)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 22, 2012 02:01 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Jean at December 22, 2012 02:24 AM (s6w17)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 22, 2012 03:05 AM (I2LwF)
I dunno about that. They've got a new Democrat mayor as of about three weeks ago, and their previous Republican mayor was for gay marriage and gun control. Apparently it was, for a while, the largest city in the country with a Republican mayor (after Bloomberg went independent), but not any more.
Posted by: Dan K. at December 22, 2012 02:25 AM (c32CV)
Posted by: nraendowment at December 22, 2012 02:58 AM (1+CnU)
Inconceivable!!
Posted by: the pretty good Vizzini at December 22, 2012 03:31 AM (z9HTb)
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