1 First!

2 Yo.

3 What's interesting about the "true size of Africa" is that either China or India have a higher population.

4 Heh, I set up a dummy Youtube account and I'm posting "Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure." on various videos about him.

Oh, and Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

5 Posted by: logprof at April 23, 2012 09:58 PM (ykSKg)

Queens isn't part of New York. Have you actually met anyone from Queens?

6 It's on like Donkey Kong in Alberta , woot!

7 allo allo, whut"

8 Posted by: logprof at April 23, 2012 09:59 PM (ykSKg)

And the fact that all of our liberal guilt has made sub-Saharan Africa far worse off than had we simply left them alone...or...probably...nuked the whole place.

9 communism is still popular because the Left still idolizes it

10 Aloha!

11 Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 23, 2012 10:02 PM (npr0X)

Oh, the figure skating playoffs?

12 Stupid ass McCain. If you let crooks get by with breaking the law, they will continue to break the law. The progs would not be so kind.

13 Posted by: SantaRosaStan ( never been to Mombasa ) at April 23, 2012 10:02 PM (Dll6b)

Is 3rd Street Ale Works still around?

14 "Africa is very big, but mostly it's a Giant Shit-hole;  Enjoy"

15 Hell yeah.  I'd have Sun News on, but the Blackhawks are playing.

16 Sumpin like that Dildo .

17 I see Morons

18 Oops, my #15 was for:

6 It's on like Donkey Kong in Alberta , woot!

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 23, 2012 10:02 PM (npr0X)

19 Wonder if I can get a flame thrower for Mother's day?  Hmmmm.....

20 I never go downtown, Mr, Dildo.  Bad people are there, hanging around.

21 In the wake of the Arab Spring, the Obama administration is grappling with how to handle Islamists, radical adherents to Islam. Particularly, the issue has come to the fore in regards to Egypt, which, as Reuel Marc Gerecht notes, "is now certain" to elect "an Islamist" as its leaders the next time the Egyptian people go to the polls. But some in the Obama administration are now seeing things differently. "The war on terror is over," a senior official in the State Department official tells the National Journal. "Now that we have killed most of al Qaida, now that people have come to see legitimate means of expression, people who once might have gone into al Qaida see an opportunity for a legitimate Islamism." This new outlook has, in the words of the National Journal, come from a belief among administration officials that "It is no longer the case, in other words, that every Islamist is seen as a potential accessory to terrorists." For the president himself, this new thinking comes from a "realiz[ation that] he has no choice but to cultivate the Muslim Brotherhood and other relatively 'moderate' Islamist groups emerging as lead political players out of the Arab Spring in Egypt, Tunisia and elsewhere." This new outlook is radically different than what was expressed under President George W. Bush immediately after September 11, 2001. "Over time it's going to be important for nations to know they will be held accountable for inactivity," Bush said on November 6, 2001. "You're either with us or against us in the fight against terror." For President Barack Obama, it would seem, one can be both with us and against us--or not with us, but not quite against us. We are so fucked if this bastard is re-elected

22 I'm still trying to figure dildos out! Or is it, dildi? I was too busy blowing my Latin professor to hear a thing he was moaning!

23 16 Sumpin like that Dildo .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 23, 2012 10:04 PM (npr0X)

--Come on, have all the non-Canadian Morons already forgotten Little Miss Wheelboobs?

24 Oral arguments begin in the Supreme Court tomm Arizona vs Fed Govt on border control.  I think I was listening to NPR or something talking about it, shockingly, they didnt completely bury Arizona..but close

25 Hey, cool kids!!  Hey, CharlieBrown'sDildo!!  I spent FOUR HUNDRED dollars on asthma kitteh today.  But, am quite happy that now I have the life-saving crap that I can deploy day or night without leaving the house.  But, it kinda fries my ass to discover that the fetid state of California TAXES veterinary pharmaceuticals.  Yup, $26.42 went to the fuckin' high speed rail slash food/health care/housing/education/incarceration for people who don't fuckin' belong here fund.  Oh, sorry . . .

26 of course it's still there.  It's on the way to Pier One Imports

27 I saw the feeding tube thing the other day.  I blame Disney and those dang princesses for crap like that. 

28

Posted by: Barney Frank at April 23, 2012 10:05 PM (niZvt)

--Speaking of flamethrowers . . .

29 I have a sunny personality.  Really. 

30 We are so fucked if this bastard is re-elected Posted by: nevergiveup at April 23, 2012 10:05 PM (eCnLg) WORD. Happily, Mitt looks like he's taking off the white gloves and athletic cup and getting ready to acquaint Mr. Obama with Mister Enos Intruder.

31

But Africa as a whole and the nations that make it up don't have to be shitholes.  The continent is loaded with natural resources and potential wealth.

Parts of Africa are stunningly beautiful.

But it largely is.  A shithole.

 

There is subtle lesson here (or not so subtle).  People that live in DC, Detroit and East St. Louis could explain it.  But those are just clues.

32 Posted by: SantaRosaStan ( never been to Mombasa ) at April 23, 2012 10:05 PM (Dll6b)

Yeah, downtown was a dump when I lived there (briefly), and they tried to clean it up, but never quite succeeded. The beer is great though.

33 off, sock

34 brain fart:  I meant Cost Plus, not Pier One-- 

35 Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 23, 2012 10:04 PM (npr0X)

Baseball.

Try it.

36 29 I have a sunny personality. Really. Posted by: Peaches at April 23, 2012 10:07 PM (lJ2es) You're like a sprinkle of golden shower in my otherwise dreary day, Peaches! Or something like that...

37 Wow, VCR adoption bridged hit the 70% threshold even faster than the Internet.  I guess people likes them some grainy, poor quality tracking pr0n.

38 "McCain chose not to fight" months earlier.

39 This provincial election is something you all might want a little less of a condescending look at . Alberta has a choice between establishment conservatives and a genuine conservative choice , let's see what happens tonite ........ And yes there are conservative minded people in Canada , contrary to popular belief .

40 37 Wow, VCR adoption bridged hit the 70% threshold even faster than the Internet. I guess people likes them some grainy, poor quality tracking pr0n.

Posted by: wooga at April 23, 2012 10:10 PM (vjyZP)

Frame by frame

41 Posted by: Barney Frank at April 23, 2012 10:05 PM (niZvt)

It's Greek, not Latin!

42 Africa is all about Poor Water Distribution:


Most of the rain falls in in the central section of the west coast / the Congo River basin.  You can draw concentric circles outwards, towards the east from the Congo, and there is less and less rain.  Most of the continent is arid or semi-arid


desert and scrub;  nolo good-o

43 I think Mitt is ready to do whatever it takes to win, even fight dirty. This is going to be one nasty election, even if in the end it is inevitably decided by the economy. Which can only mean, to paraphrase Mitt, "Bambi... start packing!"

44 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

45 "Do not put on knob and bollocks"

I'll leave it open whether that Amazon review was for Veet or for Africa

46 Damn McCain sucked. Hope Romney chooses to fight.

47 Been there ,done that Chuck . Both my kids play .

48 37 Wow, VCR adoption bridged hit the 70% threshold even faster than the Internet. I guess people likes them some grainy, poor quality tracking pr0n.


I was amazed as a kid when we went to our relatives house way out in the sticks and they had a vcr before any of us modern city folk, course it was betamax, but still.

49 When I was young I remember a teacher saying that if communism was properly practiced it would be the best form of government. I halfway believed that until I grew up some and learned how to think critically. Commmunism will never work with the human race. 

50 I think Mitt is ready to do whatever it takes to win, even fight dirty.

I agree, CoolCzech.  It's making me like him much more than I ever thought possible.  But, yeah, I'm all in on this. 

Not pulling for Rubio on the ticket, though.  I'd like to see a street fighter.  Which, of course, means the fat man from Jersey.  Oh, please . . .

51 Posted by: CoolCzech at April 23, 2012 10:11 PM (niZvt)

I hope that behind the crisp, clean Mormon veneer is a nasty, vindictive, mean-spirited prick who wants nothing more than Obama's balls on a platter and his clothes in a pile on the lawn of the White House.

52 Damn, checked map of the dead and while I am within a long walk of military, groceries, guns, hospitals, and home depot, I am nowhere near a liquor store! I may have to move.

53 Commmunism will never work with the human race. Posted by: Bill R. at April 23, 2012 10:13 PM (ZjexS) which is why it's perfect for liberals

54 Weren't Dildos actually prehistoric birds on an island that Captain Cook visited in the South Pacific, in the 1700's? I thought that they were distinguished by the way their heads and long necks looks just like a human penis. Evidently, Cook's crew left the island exhausted, and every last Dildo on the island had had its neck strangely broken...

55 Bonus points to the Blackhawks for blasting Danzig's "Mother" at the game.

56 'Cost Plus' is where old hippies go to die; the patchouli hides the stench of decomposing veggan flesh

just last week, they found Joni Mitchell there--dead.  Dead for weeks....

57 Posted by: Peaches at April 23, 2012 10:13 PM (lJ2es)

He'll be fun as a VP candidate, but not as a presidential candidate in 2020. That worries me.

58 There is no such thing as "step zero". Just as there is no such thing as year zero or patient zero. The first of anything is one. Sorry, pet peeve. And don't get me started on the calendar.

59 Nixon wanted to fight his fraudulent loss to Kennedy but was talked out of it.

60

Two things over 2008:

Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin(for now), Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Florida are ALL governed by Republicans now.

ALL were governed by Democrats in 2008 who would have turned a blind eye against tomfoolery back then.

 

Also, Romney is not McCain.

61 Africa? Not so big.

tinyurl.com/3lu3g9h

62 Bill R. at April 23, 2012 10:13 PM (ZjexS) Same here. My gov/econ teacher told us that if corporations paid taxes, none of us would have to. After I got some smarts, I was flabbergasted.

63

Howdy, morons.

 

Not to make you feel worse about it, Peaches, but I buy my vet medicine from Cal Vet Supply via mail order and, you guessed it, pay no sales tax.  Kalifornia sucks mightily, government-wise.  I know lots of good morons there, mainly waiting to unass the joint after retirement.

64 We lead the world in computerized data collection!

65 Dodos, not dildos;  silly Czech.   Dodos, only they're extinct

like where Western Civilization is going...........

66 39 This provincial election is something you all might want a little less of a condescending look at . Alberta has a choice between establishment conservatives and a genuine conservative choice , let's see what happens tonite ........ And yes there are conservative minded people in Canada , contrary to popular belief .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 23, 2012 10:11 PM (npr0X)

--Exactly.  I'm not super knowledgeable about it, but Alberta is essentially tossing out their equivalent of John Boehner Mitch McConnell and installing Tea Partiers.

67 #25 Hi Peaches! I am glad to hear that Asthma kitty is doing well.

68 There'd better be some quality boobehs in this week's episode of Game of Thrones.

69 54  I always wondered how that species went extinct. 

70 If Africans ever get their act together, they will rule the World.

71 Posted by: CoolCzech at April 23, 2012 10:14 PM (niZvt)

They were invented in Prague in 1674 by one of the fluffers in the Habsburg's court.

72 Communism is popular because, even though it's failed in every country that has tried it and the people under it who aren't oppressed slaves of the state are killed in vast purges, gosh darn it, it's just never been done right!

73 It's all about the spending logprof .

74 Gaia is a stank whore.

75 Dildo is also a town on the island of Newfoundland.  It may pick up in tourism is Fucking, Austria, really does change its name.

76 74 It's all about the spending logprof .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 23, 2012 10:18 PM (npr0X)

--The PC = GOP Congress 2003-07.

77 the Left likes communism because it empowers unemployable over-educated college pukes who otherwise would be waiting / bussing tables

78 Same here. My gov/econ teacher told us that if corporations paid taxes, none of us would have to. After I got some smarts, I was flabbergasted. Posted by: Lallyjay at April 23, 2012 10:16 PM

Credentialed, not educated.

79 75 Gaia is a stank whore. Agreed. I'm GLAD I pierced that bitch's bosom with a large radioactive sword. Glad...

80 Libs see the world the way they want it to be, conservatives see the world for how it really is. That's why they keep thinking communism will work, or if they are nice to <> he will understand the error of his ways and buy everyone a puppy (which will then be eaten by Obama).

81 So the same Marine Corps that requires body armor and a helmet to drive a truck doesn't require any safety gear for flame throwers?

82 Somebody better score in this here hockey game.  And it better be the Blackhawks.

83 Peaches @25, if the medication is going to be an ongoing purchase, I suggest getting a written prescription from the vet and then buying it online from out of state. We have to give our cat prescription-strength digestive enzymes because she has pancreatitis, and that's what we do.

84 The Amazon comments on the horse mask are Moron quality.

85

Lt Commander Nevergiveup at 21:

 

There is only one true God and Mohammed is his prophet. Islam is hemaneutically sealed from reform, revelation or renaisance.  Obama and his lackeys believe in all the bunkum of the non-aligned, third - world movements, and this is just another one that he wants the US to be "on the right side of". 

 

Islam is what is always is and has been, a violent politico-religion of the Middle East Arab, constantly on razza to raid and plunder and pillage what it cannot build for itself, and try and terrorize the world with their fearsome devotion to the freaky god they have invented.  They claim to be descendents of Abraham, and the God of the Jews,  but their god is a pernicious and malevolent god, with no forgiveness or mercy.  Fear, terror and doom drives them from the desert wastes to try and plunder the world for what they lack. And what they lack spiritually most of all.

 

To say this won't end well is an understatement.  It won't end until they are solidly beaten and harried back into their desert countries and forced to deal with themselves and outgrow the madness that drives them.

 

Even if they win, they lose.  The history of Islam is that they prey on each other when their is no outside foe to steal or raid from. The World of Islam is a Hobbesian nightmare of Rouseau's "nobel savages" being savages to each other  and anybody else that gets in the way.

 

It will all be different this time.  Right.

86 80 75 Gaia is a stank whore. Agreed. I'm GLAD I pierced that bitch's bosom with a large radioactive sword. Glad... Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 23, 2012 10:20 PM (RvlzX) Sure Clinton didn't beat you to it with his radioactive cigar?

87
Not pulling for Rubio on the ticket, though. I'd like to see a street fighter. Which, of course, means the fat man from Jersey. Oh, please . . .

I think he'd be wasted as VP because he wouldn't be allowed to do what he does lest he overshadow Romney, they'd reign him in.

88 The problem with Africa is it is full of Africans. Culture matters ..

89 Communism is popular because, even though it's failed in every country that has tried it and the people under it who aren't oppressed slaves of the state are killed in vast purges, gosh darn it, it's just never been done right! Posted by: huerfano at April 23, 2012 10:18 PM (bAGA/) This time we'll use computers.

90 Commmunism will never work with the human race.
Posted by: Bill R.
----------------------

It doesn't even work for ants and bees. They're monarchies.

91 Credentialed, not educated. Posted by: huerfano at April 23, 2012 10:20 PM (bAGA/) I used to be a high school teacher, half of the stress I had was fear that someone would find out I was conservative. Seriously.

92 Logprof, I'm still laughing at the "We have to get all of the Fucking residents to agree to the name change" line. 

93 I actually found a picture of a broad that has worse legs than Cankles. Drudge report, lower left hand side. Mrs Putin. Take a look and see. Redwoods they are.

94 85 The Amazon comments on the horse mask are Moron quality.

Posted by: eman at April 23, 2012 10:20 PM (YrBvI)

--There best be at least 1 SJP reference.

95 'Lt. Commander' ??  That's like.....what, staff sergeant? 

96 89 Yeah,Africa will probably never reach it's potential,unless someone else colonizes it.

97 Sure Clinton didn't beat you to it with his radioactive cigar? That's entirely possible, .

98 The problem with Africa is it is full of Africans. Culture matters .. Posted by: jake at April 23, 2012 10:21 PM (AZ8Mb) The problem with Africa is it is full of corruption and Socialism.

99 "There best be at least 1 SJP reference." Posted by: logprof at April 23, 2012 10:22 PM (ykSKg) Oh here we go, trotting her out again...

100 --There best be at least 1 SJP reference.
Posted by: logprof at April 23, 2012 10:22 PM

Something about being asked for an autograph all the time.

101 Sure enough:

It took me forever to find this mask on Amazon after I heard about it from a friend. I think Amazon has it mislabeled in their system. This is the best Sarah Jessica Parker mask I've seen and I my daughter got a lot of compliments on it when she dressed up as SJP last Halloween. Would definitely recommend!

102 'Lt. Commander' ?? That's like.....what, staff sergeant? Posted by: SantaRosaStan ( never been in the Nay-vee ) at April 23, 2012 10:22 PM (Dll6b) Wise ass. Actually it's someone who doesn't have to worry to much about getting a Billet

103 Sometimes I wonder if McCain voted for Obama.

104 He'll be fun as a VP candidate, but not as a presidential candidate in 2020. That worries me.

If we can't field a winning team (and by that I mean a vicious, take-no-prisoners, scorched-earth team) this time, then 2020 won't matter a bit.  Plus, by then Paul Ryan will be sooooooo ready . . .

And, hey, thanks for all the kind thoughts about the pricey baby Zoey.  She's actually already feeling better, as am I.  We have Flovent and Albuterol and a weird device for squirting them into her wittle face.  Totally worth it and I didn't really NEED a new pair of boots anyway, lol.

105 The problem with Africa is it is full of corruption and Socialism. Posted by: eman at April 23, 2012 10:23 PM

And tribalism, just like someone is trying to stir up in this country.

106 A white man, a black man, a communist and a dog eater walk in a bar. The bartender says, " "

107 McCain is a bigger dummy than I thought. 2000 was not a recount to expose voter fraud, it was an attempted coup.

108 94 Logprof, I'm still laughing at the "We have to get all of the Fucking residents to agree to the name change" line. Posted by: no good deed at April 23, 2012 10:22 PM (mjR67) Well, Phuket, Thailand was going to change its name, too. But then all the inhabitants ran out of steam and simply said...

109 A white man, a black man, a communist and a dog eater walk in a bar.

The bartender says,
" "

Posted by: Hmmmm at April 23, 2012 10:25 PM (Sptt

--Will you have a Salty Dog, Mr. President?

110 Posted by: SantaRosaStan ( never been in the Nay-vee ) at April 23, 2012 10:22 PM (Dll6b)

Hey!

He's a conservative Jew in New Jersey, which means he's either dumb or tough...or both.

111 Communism and Socialism will not be very popular after the economic collaps that is comming in Europe. They ran out of other peoples money and quit having kids. boo, hoo plus , communists aare terrible lovers, smell like fish, and...

112 98 89 Yeah,Africa will probably never reach it's potential,unless someone else colonizes it.     Can you say China?  I knew you could.

113 On the other hand allowing someone to get into the White House fraudulently severely undermines our democracy.
***
We've known that significant voter fraud has been going on for years. In fact, the Democrats have been caught red handed several times - remember the ballots appearing in Democrat poll worker trunks in the WA governor's election?

Now yes, the Democrats can only move a few percent without it being so obvious that even the State Media can't ignore it - but how many elections have been decided by more then 4%? And remember in presidential elections, that's 4% in every swing state.

114 108 A white man, a black man, a communist and a dog eater walk in a bar. The bartender says, " " Posted by: Hmmmm at April 23, 2012 10:25 PM (Sptt "Hello, Mister President?"

115 That pig mask attached to the horse mask ad is about the damndest thing I ever saw.

116 If we can't field a winning team (and by that I mean a vicious, take-no-prisoners, scorched-earth team) this time, then 2020 won't matter a bit. Plus, by then Paul Ryan will be sooooooo ready . . . Peaches at April 23, 2012 10:25 PM (lJ2es) That was one of the reasons I liked Gingrich. Someone who could recall facts and make arguments so fast it would leave Obama stuttering (more than usual) and in tears.

117 Shit, Toews in the penalty box.

118 Totally worth it and I didn't really NEED a new pair of boots anyway, lol.

You're my kind of gal, Peaches.

119 http://tinyurl.com/6v8c82n

Obama Celebrates Holocaust Day By Putting Jew-Bashing Crackpot on Atrocities Board

120 Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 23, 2012 10:26 PM (7yvLv) They already are. IIRC, the Chi-Coms have about 4000 troops in the Sudan, protecting Chinese oil interests.

121 I think he'd be wasted as VP because he wouldn't be allowed to do what he does lest he overshadow Romney, they'd reign him in.

I disagree, booger.  First, I think we need to focus on who's going to be the best candidate at this point and fuck what comes later, as long as we win.  Second, I don't think Romney has ever been in the same zip code as a person who could reign that fucker in . . . I just don't see it happening, I think he'd be more of a Cheney-style veep.

122 Went over to Lex's place. All gone...

123 Tribalism is the problem in Africa.

124

So we could run a Mormon and a Jew against the "you know"?  That ought to be interesting.

 

I think the RNC (alas) will step in and insist on some geographic separation between the P and VP candidates.

125 The future of home defense http://tinyurl.com/6qv46qn

126 21-4 shot differential....LMAO

127

McCain probably voted for himself but regretted it when he remembered that he was supposed to be a Republican.

 

He's a strange and schizophrenic man, to say the least.

 

There must be some kind of rule that says to run for president you must have some kind of mental or emotional deficiency that allows you to live with the madness that is part of the campaign.

128 Fuck!

Coyotes goal.

129 crap

130 114 That is who I had in mind,however,they have their own problems.

131 Funny that we haven't heard much from Mr Reacharound since the election, and his maverick ways

132 Why is it that whenever there is a particularly amusing and engaged ONT,
I have to get up at 5:30am?

Good night all!

133 g'evening, 'rons

134 122 Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 23, 2012 10:26 PM (7yvLv)

They already are. IIRC, the Chi-Coms have about 4000 troops in the Sudan, protecting Chinese oil interests.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 23, 2012 10:28 PM (RvlzX)

--The Chi-Coms have no interest in settling the place; they just want all the underground goodies.

135 C'mon...switch Ohio and PA, and McCain still loses. Not to mention it would have been pretty absurd to want a guy with only 45.7 percent of the popular vote (10 million fewer than his opponent) as President.

I voted for McCain, but anyone who thinks he *really* won in 2008 is Rosie O'Donnell-level delusional.

136 The magical unicorn mask on the same page as the horse mask is particularly disturbing.

137 Communism is still around because every new generation thinks they have cracked the code. Its righteous anger that can lead to more power over others, it feeds into peoples egos that they can solve all the worlds problems.

138 Christ if I read ONE more story about men shaving their schwangs... Any man that does that should have his testicles shaved off with a rusty can top. There, I said it.

139 'Night CBD!

140

They already are. IIRC, the Chi-Coms have about 4000 troops in the Sudan, protecting Chinese oil interests.

 

That was my point, Dr K.  You've got to look around the webs to find it, but they are moving lots of people and money to the dark continent.

141 We are so fucked if this bastard is re-elected
Posted by: nevergiveup
--------------------

The way Obama immediately proceeded to reinstate or expand all the anti-terrorism structures of Bush and Cheney that he had campaigned and voted against, I wonder.....

There's a grain of self-preservation in the narcissistic bastard. Some day he and Michelle will be out of the White House, and there's no profit in being the former leaders of a country that no longer exists.

142 McCain tried to take a sense of honor into politics.  A dude can get away with that on the local ( and maybe state ) level, if you stir in Celebrity Status and maybe marry a rich man's daughter, too


he was Shat Upon; he refused to return the favor. ---end of story

143 138 The magical unicorn mask on the same page as the horse mask is particularly disturbing.

Posted by: no good deed at April 23, 2012 10:30 PM (mjR67)

--Remember the artist who had those crazy paintings like the one of a nekkid Baraka and Michelle riding a unicorn?

Wonder whatever happened to that guy?

144 Christ if I read ONE more story about men shaving their schwangs... Any man that does that should have his testicles shaved off with a rusty can top. There, I said it. Posted by: CoolCzech at April 23, 2012 10:30 PM (niZvt) ---------------------------------------------------- I don't understand the fascination with manscaping either. Rather ghey if you ax me.

145

===if I read ONE more story about men shaving their schwangs...===

Well how the hell are you supposed to get all the hair off?

146 I don't know whether I will be pissed or pleased if McCain is still healthy enough to have been pres all 4 years considering the amount of BS about him dying in office and leaving the country to the "chillbilly"

147 "As a 24 year old male I suffer from having an incredibly hair anal passage, one could possibly argue that there there is probably more hair on this region of my body than my armpits.

A word of warning though people, PLEASE DO NOT Veet for men on your anus. I did this myself and learned the hard way.

Using veet for men has ruined my life, and I now can only walk with the aid of a walking stick.

It was a Monday evening and I was fed up of my anal bush, so I decided to take evasive action.

Before long my entire butt hole was plastered in the stuff. I thought everything was ok until I thought I could smell smoke, I frantically ran into the kitchen in case I had accidentally left the hob on, but to my horror I caught my naked reflection in the mirror and the smoke seemed to be coming from my arse.

I ran the tap until the sink was full and sat in it crying and sobbing from excruciating the pain, I then limped sheepishly into the bathroom to have a proper look and yes, it had worked, my anal bush was gone!

So yes Veet for men did everything it said it would do, but just to pre-warn any of you folk who suffer from an unusually hairy back passage, I would stick to scissors in the future."

148 Wait, Christie is Jewish?  When the hell did that happen?  Or did I just miss something?

149 They already are. IIRC, the Chi-Coms have about 4000 troops in the Sudan, protecting Chinese oil interests.

That was my point, Dr K. You've got to look around the webs to find it, but they are moving lots of people and money to the dark continent.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 23, 2012 10:31 PM (7yvLv)

And yet Obama is sitting around waiting to discover unobtainium.

150 @144: McCain first of all succeeded at being a total ASSHOLE. His beached daughter Meghan didn't fall too far from daddy's spout.

151 I'm sitting pretty on my Zombie Survival Map.  Gun stores, likker stores, outdoor stores, gas station, drug store, grocery store and a National Guard Armory.

152 """There's a grain of self-preservation in the narcissistic bastard. Some day he and Michelle will be out of the White House, and there's no profit in being the former leaders of a country that no longer exists.""


Unless of course he gets to wear his silly green chairman mao hat and lay claim to destroying the US.

153 140 Real men look like a grown out Chia pet down below.

154 149 I don't know whether I will be pissed or pleased if McCain is still healthy enough to have been pres all 4 years considering the amount of BS about him dying in office and leaving the country to the "chillbilly"

Posted by: Lallyjay at April 23, 2012 10:32 PM (PUTM+)

--Given that U.S. Senator is one of the easiest jobs in the world, that would not necessarily mean anything.  On the other hand, being U.S President is easy too if you golf every other weekend.

155 : logprof at April 23, 2012 10:32 PM (ykSKg) I think he was on tosh.0 and made a painting of daniel tosh and barack naked riding a unicorn...Or I have terrible screwed up nightmares.

156 Well how the hell are you supposed to get all the hair off?

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 23, 2012 10:32 PM (vpe0k)

Friction . . .

157 148 ===if I read ONE more story about men shaving their schwangs...=== Well how the hell are you supposed to get all the hair off? Posted by: USS Diversity at April 23, 2012 10:32 PM (vpe0k) Hookers will chew it off for $10 a pop!

158 You are excused, shibumi.  I mean it.

159 Lots of Brits seem to have issues with this product. Personally, this is my favorite:

"As a 24 year old male I suffer from having an incredibly hair anal passage, one could possibly argue that there there is probably more hair on this region of my body than my armpits.

A word of warning though people, PLEASE DO NOT Veet for men on your anus. I did this myself and learned the hard way.

Using veet for men has ruined my life, and I now can only walk with the aid of a walking stick.

It was a Monday evening and I was fed up of my anal bush, so I decided to take evasive action.

Before long my entire butt hole was plastered in the stuff. I thought everything was ok until I thought I could smell smoke, I frantically ran into the kitchen in case I had accidentally left the hob on, but to my horror I caught my naked reflection in the mirror and the smoke seemed to be coming from my arse.

I ran the tap until the sink was full and sat in it crying and sobbing from excruciating the pain, I then limped sheepishly into the bathroom to have a proper look and yes, it had worked, my anal bush was gone!

So yes Veet for men did everything it said it would do, but just to pre-warn any of you folk who suffer from an unusually hairy back passage, I would stick to scissors in the future."

Now, for a similar product from America, a similar warning:

"Be careful with this stuff! my nuts are now hairless but... swoosh, yikes im on fire, use the Salve right after the shower, and dont soap up the area after the Pawing."

I do not know what "after the Pawing" means.

160 Shibumi wins .

161 (sorry for the double post. Something that I do not understand happened.)

162

The rest of McCain's kids, (from his first marriage and his second marriage to Cindy) are actually pretty able and normal people.

 

It's just that mouthy fat blimp Meghan that is the retard.  The intellectual runt of the litter, so to speak.

163 I owe, I owe, tomorrow it's off to work I go... Time for me to call it a night. Be good, guys. Remember, it's never a waste to stick your dork in a woodpile. There might be a snake in it!

164 #151 That doesn't sound right. Didn't I hear something about how he was sending his kids to a Catholic school?

165 Nice recovery shibumi .

166 'Night CC!

167 >>> It's harmless!

In this case, why, yes it was!

(Of course I'm not saying we should tolerate voter fraud. But the headline asks whether the election was stolen. Umm...no.)

168 165 (sorry for the double post. Something that I do not understand happened.)

Posted by: shibumi, existentialist at April 23, 2012 10:37 PM (z63Tr)

its ok...that was worth reading twice

169 Nighty-night, CoolCzech.  Hope your garden is still intact after the wicked weather.

170 Be good, guys. Remember, it's never a waste to stick your dork in a woodpile. There might be a snake in it! Posted by: CoolCzech at April 23, 2012 10:37 PM (niZvt) ------------------------------------------------- You mean another one

171 151 Wait, Christie is Jewish? When the hell did that happen? Or did I just miss something?
  Nah, Peaches, I was goofin' on a comment upthread out of context.  Sorry for the confusion.  Christie's a Catlick.

172 Wiki says Christie is a Roman Catholic.

173 h/t to Pat Dollard for directing attention to this: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itÂ’s upheld by court http://tinyurl.com/6sjgakn

174 Nah, Peaches, I was goofin' on a comment upthread out of context. Sorry for the confusion. Christie's a Catlick.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 23, 2012 10:40 PM (7yvLv)

Whew, L Rob!  I was thinking, wow, an Irish-Sicilian Jew?  Now I've seen everything!! 

175 Remember, it's never a waste to stick your dork in a woodpile. There might be a snake in it!

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 23, 2012 10:37 PM (niZvt)

Or Larry Sinclair

176 138 You thought that was bad ... use Ace's Amazon widget and check the Canned Unicorn Meat. Looks delicious!

177 176 Wiki says Christie is a Roman Catholic.

Posted by: mama winger at April 23, 2012 10:40 PM (P6QsQ)

 

But I hear he's going to follow the pope's lead and retire.

178 Hereditary monarchy has been discredited and the only replacement so far that does as good a job of concentrating power and wealth in the hands of a small ruling elite is ..... COMMUNISM. That's why it's still popular.

This is fun.

179 I was goofin' on a comment upthread out of context. Sorry for the confusion. Christie's a Catlick. Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 23, 2012 10:40 PM (7yvLv) In Jooosey we Jews and Catholics are pretty tight, so ....

180 I admit it. I had absolutely no idea that Africa was so big. I mean, I knew it was BIG, but I had never thought of it in those terms.

181 On the other hand allowing someone to get into the White House fraudulently severely
undermines our democracy. And if preventing voter fraud leads to a few
riots, well I'm okay with that. The alternative is far, far worse.

Spot on. McCain may have demonstrated immeasurable courage as POW, but his inaction on this was pure, unadulterated political/personal cowardice.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at April 23, 2012 10:21 PM (vbh31)



McCain used up all his courage and principles outlasting the Viet Cong in Hanoi.

The belief that even though you may not like them you feel confident that your elected officials were actually elected legitimately is key to a sustainable Republic.  It is not so important in a democracy which is why voter fraud is a good thing when done by liberals.

182 But I hear he's going to follow the pope's lead and retire. Posted by: buzzion at April 23, 2012 10:42 PM

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My friend says he's looking into becoming a barber.

183 McCain worked for Soros, like Obama did. http://preview.tinyurl.com/88gs8ou Think back to the big event that let Soros' PACs, Tides etc, pretty much take over the Dems. McCain-Feingold. Since 2001 McCain has been getting a lot of money from Soros and his ilk through OSI and Tides. You never had a choice.

184 ""Whew, L Rob! I was thinking, wow, an Irish-Sicilian Jew? Now I've seen everything!! ""



Wait till he rolls out the matzo crust pizza and the Guinness. lol

185 h/t to Pat Dollard for directing attention to this: Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itÂ’s upheld by court http://tinyurl.com/6sjgakn Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 23, 2012 10:41 PM (RvlzX) Sounds like a Hail Mary pass to me. Maybe George Zimmerman could do an ad for them. He's a Hispanic in the news these days.

186 In an article in the current National Journal called “The Post Al Qaida Era,” I write that the Obama administration is taking a new view of Islamist radicalism. The president realizes he has no choice but to cultivate the Muslim Brotherhood and other relatively “moderate” Islamist groups emerging as lead political players out of the Arab Spring in Egypt, Tunisia and elsewhere. (The Muslim Brotherhood officially renounced violence decades ago, leading then-dissident radicals such as Ayman al-Zawahiri to join al Qaida.) It is no longer the case, in other words, that every Islamist is seen as a potential accessory to terrorists. “The war on terror is over,” one senior State Department official who works on Mideast issues told me. “Now that we have killed most of al Qaida, now that people have come to see legitimate means of expression, people who once might have gone into al Qaida see an opportunity for a legitimate Islamism.” The new approach is made possible by the double impact of the Arab Spring, which supplies a new means of empowerment to young Arabs other than violent jihad, and Obama’s savagely successful military drone campaign against the worst of the violent jihadists, al Qaida.

187 Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itÂ’s upheld by court

http://tinyurl.com/6sjgakn

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 23, 2012 10:41 PM (RvlzX)

The balls on these guys!

188 Ugh.

The latest email from The Firm:

Friend --

I have some advice for the two people who will be selected to go to a party for the President at George Clooney's house:

Choose your guest wisely.

Whoever you pick to join you is going to owe you big time.

Think about it -- and chip in $3 or whatever you can today to be automatically entered:

- Ann Marie

Ann Marie Habershaw
Chief Operating Officer
Obama for America

P.S. -- Regarding your airfare and hotel, we've got it covered.

189 My friend says he's looking into becoming a barber.

Posted by: mama winger at April 23, 2012 10:43 PM (P6QsQ)

A barber or a cosmetologist?  Cause I could see a chain of "Chris Christie's Wax-Ur-Nads" shops being very successful in some areas . . .

190 185 I admit it. I had absolutely no idea that Africa was so big. I mean, I knew it was BIG, but I had never thought of it in those terms.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 23, 2012 10:43 PM (piMMO)

 

Well it is a continent afterall.  And the only continent they end up comparing it with in those images is Europe, and I can't tell if they are including Russia to the Ural Mountains for that comparison.

191 yeah, a Jew named CHRISTie --- ya see that every day

192 "Sen. McCain chose not to fight." And how.

193
Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itÂ’s upheld by court

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I hope Arizona wins, but this sounds like shaky ground:

"Arizona appealed to the Supreme Court, arguing that the state has the power to pass the legislation because Washington has failed to deal with the illegal-immigration problem."

194 Well...damn. This video with more shocking revelations about Obama's dog
eating lasted about 30 seconds on Twitter before my account was
suspended. >>> http://tiny.cc/dfu8cw

195 Oh god, Obama and Clooney in the same room? The smug! The smug storm will kill us all!

196 I bet within 20 years it will be considered normal for men to be hairless below the head - just as with women.

197
2008 Election: Stolen?



Mccain managed to lose Ohio by 262,000 votes and Pennsylvania by 620,000.

So, I'm going to go with "no" to stealing this* election and chalk the report up to more "it wasn't our fault!" whining from Mccain's Alibi Ike staff.




*THIS election. Now if we're talking about 1960, 1976 and almost 2000....

198 Good evening Moron Horde! I apologize in advance for the lengthy post. I come tonight seeking some lawerly type advice, particularly anyone with knowledge of workplace sexual harassment. No, I'm not in any trouble, just curious how hard it is to axe a high ranking employee for it.


To set the stage, we have our two primary players whom we'll call Busty Babe and Captain Douchebag. BB is as her moniker implies (you're not getting any pics so quit thinking about fapping) and she and I have equal positions doing code enforcement. CD is of course, a d-bag, has always outranked me and BB since we've been there, has held a few local political offices and certainly aspires for higher, married, has kids, and is an all around skeeve.


BB and I both started working there around 5 and 6 years ago, hired by the Old Guard. BB started off in the same office as CD where he was always flirty with her. BB had to drive about an hour to work at that office for her first year or so, when a slot opened up at the office I've always been in, about a half hour drive from BB, the Old Guard allowed her to transfer.


About 2 years ago, employees were offered retirement incentives so as trim positions and balance the budget. The Old Guard, all with one foot already out the door, took the payout and were gone before the end of 2010.


Now out of the top positions, #1-4, #1 and #2 serve at behest of the exec. We'd gone without an official #1 until just recently, but the guy who filled the vacuum at #3 as the Old Guard left was quickly plucked by the exec to serve as #2. Shortly thereafter, #2's buddy, Capt. Douchebag, was promoted to #3. #4 was then soon filled by another chummy member, the three now known as the Boys' Club.


So not too long before CD gets his big promotion, I'm out in the field with him. He asks me what I think about some of the other more recent hires of mine and BB's generation. I give him my honest assessment of the members of our crew and it's for the most part high praise, the Old Guard did well in those final years. He asked about BB and I said she's reliable, gets her assignments done without any problems, and seems to have a good understanding of the job, very professional. To which CD added, "Yeah and you've gotta love those great tits, right?" Well, that sounded rather unprofessional to me, especially coming from someone who everyone knew was soon to be named #3, so I just kind of said, "heh, yeah" and let that conversation die. (Luckily, not too awkward as CD is always yakking on his cell when not to whoever's in front of him)


Few months after that, me and Busty Babe are riffing on what a total douche Capt. Douchebag is when BB reveals to me that one day she was out with him and they were in CD's town. CD says to BB, "Hey my wife and kids are out today, why don't we stop for lunch at my house and I'll show you around." BB wisely declines the offer and suggests they just grab lunch at a nearby deli. I tell BB about what CD had said to me and we both agreed, what a fucking loser. BB then goes on to tell me a few other very-nearly-over-the-line statements CD has uttered to her over the years.


So now, in a further effort to reduce costs, we're closing the two leased offices and taking over some of the owned space that has opened up in three new offices. We're now to have two main field offices, with a small field office in the main office which will also host the Boys' Club. Now of course we're all on pins and needles wondering where we'll get placed, but the expectation is that the Boys' Club will try to divvy up staff to which ever office is most convenient where possible.


FO1 where our current supervisor who we love will be presiding, is less than a 10 minute drive for BB, as the employee living closest to that office, she's pretty much a lock for it. I want FO1, but while it's closest for me in total miles, it's actually a slightly quicker commute for me to go to the BCHQ, FO2 isn't even that much further for me.


Our supervisor leaks to us the end of last week the "unofficial" staffing lists which should become official any day now. Basically, everyone ended up pretty much where you'd expect, I even get to go to FO1, yay! Well, all expected except for BB, she's going to BCHQ. We asked our supervisor why BB got singled out. She says they told her that the area BB is currently in charge of will be under the jurisdiction of the Boys' Club, and BB is the only one they can really trust there. Of course, that's provable bullshit as we rotate areas routinely. Coincidently, BB's area also happens to be where all BC members live, funny that.


Anyway, I came up with what I believe to be a guaranteed out for BB should she want it, no need to discuss those details, I'm certain she's at FO1 if she wants it. BB however, really fucking despises CD and wants him gone. Also, BCHQ will be taking one of BB's friends from her old office, and BB doesn't want to abandon her (Who in her own right should have ended up in FO2, though not as drastically a wtf as BB's placement is). She says she's willing to go to BCHQ with voice recorder at the ready, and try to nail CD making further inappropriate statements towards her, the occurrence of which we both agree is a nigh certainty.


Busty Babe wants to be a hero here and rid us all of Captain Douchebag, but she wants to know just what and how much she needs on CD, so I ask the Moron Horde to lend me their counsel. Like, does she need to establish to CD that he needs to back the fuck off at any point first? How inappropriate does CD have to be before he's truly crossed the line to harassment? Also, CD's position is union, and he's a political ally of the current exec. I explained to BB that she can probably win herself a nice early retirement package, but seriously ousting CD could prove to be more difficult. BB says she has no desire for the payout, only the elimination of CD, but she wants to know how high a hurdle she has, if it's too much she'll just take my out and Captain Douchebag will continue to drive our department into the ground.


So anyone out there have experience with this stuff? Can it be done?

199 Wow.. I had no idea Africa was that huge. Evening all! Sad news, my Uncle died today. Bless his heart, he was diagnosed with liver cancer only a week ago. and today I was out and about working and I saw a Lugar sign in the middle of a Donkey farm. Like in the middle of where the donkeys graze.

200 Oh god, Obama and Clooney in the same room? The smug! The smug storm will kill us all!


****

I LOVE that episode!

201 SM Sterling wrote an alternate history series about a South Africa that became a huge empire of slaveholders.The Drakka.

202 you donate $5 or something and you become eligible to meet Mitt in CA, or go to a Red Sox game with Mitt
Posted by: chemjeff
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I'm not really a sports fan. Could I watch "Two and a Half Men" reruns with Mitt?

203

Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if itÂ’s upheld by court

OK, I'm a little befuddled here.  In what legislative body will the Ds force a vote and in regards to what?

204 Wait, isn't Dildo the little hairy guy who goes down a dark hole looking for treasure?

205 http://tiny.cc/dfu8cw

Posted by: jrg at April 23, 2012 10:47 PM (aQ3++)

whoa, I didn't get any video but apparently clicked in during the scrubbing process and the audio was still there.  Two dewclaws up!!!!

206 Evening all!

Sad news, my Uncle died today. Bless his heart, he was diagnosed with liver cancer only a week ago.
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Dear god! Sorry to hear that. Wow, did the poor guy give up?

207 Jumbo Jogging Shrimp - I am very sorry to hear about your uncle.

208 the Map of the Dead thingie? Over half of my daily commute is through the Detroit (Rock City) "Danger Zone" FML

209 Hey, for those of you who work the beads. Keep me in your prayers. I am about to make a major career move. Thanks.

210

McCain chose not to fight.

Pretty much describes the Republican Party.

211 KKK, the original hoodie.

212 eh - it's a waste of time to re-litigate the 2008 election. no R could have won that election, not after 8 years of Bush and not after the meltdown, fraud or no fraud.

The only time the McCain campaign fought they took the lead in the polls.

No Republican fighter could have lost 2008.*

Obama was, and is, a far weaker candidate then most people are willing to admit. The problem is the Republicans decided to follow up Dumb in 2008 with Dumber in 2012.

*Reagan or Bush 41 would have won in a 1984 style landslide

213 My condolences on the loss of your uncle, Shrimp.  Prayers up for your family.

214 Wait, isn't Dildo the little hairy guy who goes down a dark hole looking for treasure?
***
Yes.

215 "10" with Bo Derek is on the 'Retro' Channel, iffn you got it.  A statuesque Republican woman gets it on with little Brit dork

216 So on Pawnstars...  The cute girl that they have working the night shift and thus are actually showing the night shift.  What do you think?  Aspiring actress?

217 When Mitt asked his dog if he wanted carrier or wok, Seamus answered "Roof!"

218 and today I was out and about working and I saw a Lugar sign in the middle of a Donkey farm. Like in the middle of where the donkeys graze.

Are you sure it wasn't just a big pile of donkey shit?  I don't know donkey shit really well but I've heard it can look remarkably similar to a Dick Lugar yard sign.

219 Hey, for those of you who work the beads. Keep me in your prayers. I am about to make a major career move.

Thanks.

Posted by: Jornolist at April 23, 2012 10:51 PM (ltNot)

You got it, Jornolist.  Will even mention you by name instead of just lumping you in with "all morons." 

220 Good evening, good people.   A very successful trip to the Smokehouse to replenish the bacon supply today.

  So good that for supper we had bacon sandwiches on lightly toasted sourdough rolls, with a salad.   I like to sprinkle shredded cheese ( whatever suits you) on them and  shove them under the broiler to melt it before assembling them.

   Some variations include making a BLT, or perhaps peanut butter.    Good times.

221 *Reagan or Bush 41 would have won in a 1984 style landslide

Posted by: 18-1 at April 23, 2012 10:51 PM (3aXbg)

yeah, I keep saying that bad campaigns lose elections ( more so than good campaigns win them.  -----  McCain's was one of the worst evah

Obama was brittle; smacking him around would have shattered the image

222 Posted the "If I wanted America to fail" video on FB this morning, and my lib friend went APE SHIT. So it was a good day.

223 222 I like the show but the banter between the guys seems very scripted.Chumlee is mostly an act as is the Old Man.

224 Did you know Jim Treacher is running for president?

I'll take staycations to save the taxpayers money. Have you SEEN the White House? That place is pretty sweet. #Treacher2012

225 mugiwara - I am sorry to say that I have never been in an office environment that had those types of problems, so I can not offer any words of wisdom.  But I do hope it works out for all the good guys involved.

226 Aww... thanks all. My uncle wen to the Dr last week and was told a month. A week later he was gone. He was such a nice guy. My dad is from Ireland all his family is still there so .. no way I can go to the funeral.

227 Posted by: mugiwara at April 23, 2012 10:48 PM (KI/Ch) Do not push the big red button.

228

Interesting coincidence of meat preparation, Irongrampa.  I'm drying out a fresh batch of beef jerky today/tonight.   The thinner chunks are out already - tasty.  But fresh bacon has its place, fer sure.

229 Condolences, Jumbo Jogging Shrimp. May God keep and comfort you all.

230 Ok... is there a link for the Job Bank, or do you have to have keys to the executive washroom to have access?
 

231 Evening everyone.  Just got up after a four hour nap, so I might actually be on for a while tonight.

That was my point, Dr K. You've got to look around the webs to find it, but they are moving lots of people and money to the dark continent.

I'll repeat what I've said for a while: The Chinese are going to focus their efforts on expansion into central Asia, especially towards the Caspian Sea and the resources in that area.  Second will be Africa.  Establishing Chinese interests in Africa provides them with needed resources, but more importantly it allows them to position military forces in such a way as to threaten the West if it tries to interfere.  Imagine if the Chinese move troops into Turkmenistan or Kazakhstan and can tell NATO or the UN, "Don't interfere or our missles in the Sudan will be brought into play."

232 so who is respoinsible for renaming ayers rock anyway? isn't someone around here responsible for keeping an eye on that nonsense?

233 Peaches - thanks. If this works out right, I will be writing daily on a national platform with a microphone.

234 I hope Machines for Sale doesn't show up tonight.  It could get ugly with all the hair removal talk.

235 Just waking up after sleeping off a meal from Outback

Not bad, not fantastic, but a D-Cup ginger was sitting at the next table. Staff was friendly and the prices were decent, just wish I'd been seated so I could see the sweater puppies straight on

236 Dear Shrimp; Sorry to hear of your loss. Your uncle musta been one tough guy to not complain earlier. Shows how we can never know what others are dealing with.

237 @ 204 Posted by: mugiwara ----- Depending on what state you live in, recording may be illegal. There is a general list of 3rd party recording laws by state at Project Veritas: http://www.projectveritas.com/resources It may be worth your time to talk to a lawyer. Most don't charge for the initial visit. Just the opinion of a Lurker.

238 There's a weird doublethink going around in the Republican party. Seems like way too many people can simultaneously believe that:

1) Romney got the nomination by means of sneaky politicking and anonymous character assassination of his rivals, and

2) Romney's not enough of a fighter to take on Obama.

I can understand believing either one, but not both at the same time.

239 so who is respoinsible for renaming ayers rock anyway? isn't someone around here responsible for keeping an eye on that nonsense?
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Ayers Rock is being renamed? I vote "Areyoureadyto"

240

John McCain is such a wuss. He chose  FOUR  YEARS  of  "violence" against this country, its citizens, and the Constitution over  the   "possibility of domestic violence" in '08. Either he's a wuss or O threatened him the way he threatened Chelsea Clinton to  shut Bill & Hil up (per the Hollywood producer/Hilary campaign worker who  claimed  that recently).

Once O is out on his jug-ear, the Congress had better still investigate him for his crimes. And every law he signed had better be nullified if he's found guilty.

241 I will be writing daily on a national platform with a microphone.

Posted by: Jornolist at April 23, 2012 11:00 PM (UB6eP)

WOW!!!!!  That's really exciting.  I will pray extra . . .

242 247 so who is respoinsible for renaming ayers rock anyway? isn't someone around here responsible for keeping an eye on that nonsense? *** Ayers Rock is being renamed? I vote "Areyoureadyto" Posted by: 18-1 at April 23, 2012 11:01 PM (3aXbg) rimshot! yeah they renamed it ularu or something to make the aborigines feel better about losing the whole place.

243 Jumbo - condolences brother.

244 244 Dear Shrimp; Sorry to hear of your loss. Your uncle musta been one tough guy to not complain earlier. Shows how we can never know what others are dealing with. Posted by: Justamom at April 23, 2012 11:00 PM (Sptt Yep, Amen.

245 Fuck 'Yotes up by 2.

246 1) Romney got the nomination by means of sneaky politicking and anonymous character assassination of his rivals, and
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Nah, the State Media smacked down each Romney rival when it looked like they might steal the nomination from their chosen Republican. Romney just had to stand back and keep looking presidential. Which he does indeed do well.

247 Posted by: mugiwara at April 23, 2012 10:48 PM (KI/Ch) 1. Procure a red Swingline stapler 2. ????? 3. Profit!!!

248 Anybody need a deal on airfare check out cheapoair.com. Shrimp- I bet Air Lingus would cut you a deal.

249 Jumbo - what part of Ireland?

250 Chumlee is an aspiring actress?

251

Someone seems to have missed The Classic Amazon Product Review:

(How this review was missed is beyond me, as it seems to be the epitome of the AoSHQ Adventuring Mentality(c), for which we should all strive ... euphamisms used to reduce banning likelihood and to further suggest that the original reviewer is actually British, and actually intended to use euphamisms ...)

Being a loose cannon who does not play by the rules the first thing I did was ignore the warning and smear this all over the equipment . The twins I knew and loved are gone now. In their place is a maroon coloured bag of agony which sends stabs of pain up my body every time it grazes against my thigh or an article of clothing. I am suffering so that you don't have to. Heed my lesson. DO NOT PUT ON the equipment .

 

(I am giving this product a 5 because despite the fact that I think my twins might fall off, they are now completely hairless.)

 

... and the en result is, after all, the point of the product.

 

I, for one, salute you, Mr. Loose-Cannon-Who-Does-Not-Play-By-The-Rules Product Reviewer.

252 so sorry, JJS

253 I would like to share an experience with you, about drinking and driving.

As you well know, some of us have been known to have had brushes with the authorities on our way home from the odd social session over the years.

A couple of nights ago, I was out for a few drinks with some friends at the Marriott Hotel and had a few too many beers and some rather nice red wine.

Knowing full well I may have been slightly over the limit, I did something I've never done before: I took a bus home.

Sure enough I passed a police road block but as it was a bus, they waved it past.

I arrived home safely without incident, which was a real surprise; as I have never driven a bus before and am not sure where I got it.

254 if the Chinese move troops into Turkmenistan or Kazakhstan and can tell NATO or the UN, "Don't interfere or our missles in the Sudan will be brought into play."
Posted by: Alex
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Let's say that happens in 16-20 years. If 8 years of President Romney followed by 8 of President Rubio do their work, the Chicoms can have a rerun of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

255 Posted by: Lurkasaurus at April 23, 2012 11:00 PM (sJKFk)

Yeah that's a great resource. I'd already checked the one party's knowledge recording laws, we're in the clear there. A local lawyer consultation might not be a bad idea.

I'm leaning towards BB just taking my out, but she is really pissed and wants CD out, and really, it's for the better. CD will either be there for another decade or two, unless he scores some higher office or position, in which case even more people get screwed by this prick.

256 Regarding the technology graph, before 1960 the devices and machines roughly paced the electricity line. After 1960 the newer devices act independently. Adoption of new technology is faster now because everybody has electricity, but there is an acceleration due to the newer devices, too, I bet. In several cases the ones with steep slopes are focused on entertainment, communication, and convenience, even before 1960. The microwave oven grew at the same pace as the cellphone. Interesting.

257 @  236

  I like jerky.  Was going to do some venison, but wound up eating it.  We don't keep our deer around too long, I feel that freezing it for for than a couple months kills the flavor.

  Thinking that a new smoker is in order this year, but haven't started to look at them yet.

258

I agree big media pushed Romney into the nomination, just like with McCain last time.  And they will rip his throat out for the rest of this year.  Ugly would be better than what this will look like.

 

It's time to start internalizing "ABO".

 

If Romney turns out to be the worst Republican president in history, he'll be an order of magnitude better than the current.

259 {pssssssttttt, jornolist, Shrimp is an 'ette.  I'm thinking with that kind of attention to detail, you are probably a shoe-in for the job, dude}


was that mean?

260 I am thinking we could muster some Scratch for Jumbo to fly to Ireland. How much does a roundtrip flight cost? Quite serious by the way.

261 "McCain felt the crowds assembled in support of Obama and such would be detrimental to our country and it would do our nation no good for this to drag out like last go around, coupled with the possibility of domestic violence."

McShame is the biggest horse's ass on Earth.  He is a despicable asshole of unholy proportions.  His name should be spit on for thousands of years, the bastard piece of shit.

262 the State Media smacked down each Romney rival when it looked like they might steal the nomination from their chosen Republican.
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Didn't hurt that they all stepped on their own dicks.

263 257 Jumbo - what part of Ireland? Posted by: Jornolist at April 23, 2012 11:05 PM (UB6eP) My dad is from County Clare.. Kilkee. Right on the ocean.. absolutely gorgeous. My Uncle lived in County Tipperary.

264 Shouldn't you be hitting the sack for work tomorrow?

And get Sugar Tits to make me some coffee.

265 "McCain felt the crowds assembled in support of Obama and such would be
detrimental to our country and it would do our nation no good for this
to drag out like last go around, coupled with the possibility of
domestic violence."

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Terrorists are scary. We should do as they say.

266 Had no idea Jumbo was a she. At any rate, how much does it cost to fly to Ireland?

267 Oh yes, Africa is huge.  I have a Nat Geo map of the world pinned to the wall just above my computer monitor.  The US (without AK) and China easily fit.

268 Quite serious by the way.
Posted by: Jornolist
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I'm in.

269

McShame is the biggest horse's ass on Earth. He is a despicable asshole of unholy proportions. His name should be spit on for thousands of years, the bastard piece of shit.

 

So, how do you really feel?

270 Shrimp- I bet Air Lingus would cut you a deal. Posted by: Justamom at April 23, 2012 11:05 PM (Sptt My passport is expired anyway.

271 Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic. Someone there has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in the Prague newspaper Prager Zeitungon on 04.28.2010.
 
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president."

272 ""McShame is the biggest horse's ass on Earth. He is a despicable asshole of unholy proportions. His name should be spit on for thousands of years, the bastard piece of shit.""


Too bad it wasn't 2500 BC Egypt. His name would have been chiseled off of any wall or monument by now.

273 Wow.. I had no idea Africa was that huge. Gaia's basket case. It's amazing.

274 I will pitch in 200 for JJS to Ireland.

275 Ireland is some very pricey airfare.  The bff's kids, nieces & nephews are all going this summer and, even with a way advance booking it was very high.

276 I hope Romney doesn't get shaky over the "election result violence" thing, because it seems very likely with an R win.

277 So anyone out there have experience with this stuff? Can it be done?

Posted by: mugiwara at April 23, 2012 10:48 PM (KI/Ch)

Run, don't walk away from this. Do not ever get involved in any sexual harrasment issue at work, it is a loser for you.  She wins, the Company remembers you helping her out, you lose. She loses, the Company remembers you helping her out, you lose. There is no way that you "win". The only thing that happens is that you "lose". She may get a settlement, you get a pink slip.

278 Ya'll are so nice. Its ok. My dads family is massive.. Big massive Catholic family. That will be one big wake.

279 My dad is from County Clare.. Kilkee. Right on the ocean.. absolutely gorgeous. My Uncle lived in County Tipperary. Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 23, 2012 11:09 PM (DGIjM) My Mom's family hails from County Clare. Top o' the Mornin' to ye.

280
If Romney turns out to be the worst Republican president in history, he'll be an order of magnitude better than the current.
***
Good thing we've got 8 years to not change in course in DC while we wait to get a President who will actually do something about the debt bomb!

281 My passport is expired anyway. Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 23, 2012 11:11 PM (DGIjM) Temp visa.

282 282 I will pitch in 200 for JJS to Ireland. Posted by: Jornolist at April 23, 2012 11:12 PM (UB6eP) sweetheart.

283 So, how do you really feel?

Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 23, 2012 11:10 PM (7yvLv)

A little better now.




... Nah.  Still ticked off at the traitorous piece of shit.  His family should be shunned and treated as the lepers they are ... for generation upon generation.

284 "The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president."



Or in plainer English- Fuck him the assholes that voted for him.

285 My Mom's family hails from County Clare. Top o' the Mornin' to ye. Posted by: eman at April 23, 2012 11:13 PM (YrBvI) Wow.. what town?

286 JJS - I will have a mass said in honor of your uncle. Are you OK with giving his initials?

287 #204 I'm not a lawyer mugiwara, but if I were BB I would consider things very carefully before filing a sexual harassment claim. Even if she wins and gets rid of CD it will follow her for the rest of the time she keeps the job.

288 Communism is immoral:  it robs  people  of the fruits of their labor while causing other persons  to beg that their need is greater than anyone else's.  Of course, communism needs a ruling class to assess need and take assets from the industrious.  The Occupoopers all see themselves in the ruling class and don't realize they're part of the proletariat.

289 um...Fuck him AND the assholes that voted for him.

290 Communism is popular because envy, greed, power, and taking what doesn't belong to you will always be popular.  Human nature.

You know why Muslims and Liberals hate Jews?  That whole 10 Commandments thing.

291 Posted by: Berserker at April 23, 2012 11:15 PM (FMbng)

Wow, no shit.  Knocked the happy right out of me, that.

292 /SCOAMF sock

Shit, Hayes ejected + 5 minute penalty

293

Good thing we've got 8 years to not change in course in DC while we wait to get a President who will actually do something about the debt bomb!

 

18-1, I'm with you on that, but what are the choices here?  Hopefully, an R presidential win would also bring a change to the Senate and the legislators "could" keep Romney in line fiscally.

294 Run, don't walk away from this. Do not ever get involved in any sexual harrasment issue at work, it is a loser for you. She wins, the Company remembers you helping her out, you lose. She loses, the Company remembers you helping her out, you lose. There is no way that you "win". The only thing that happens is that you "lose". She may get a settlement, you get a pink slip.

Posted by: MrCaniac in the OBX at April 23, 2012 11:12 PM (FoNan)

Yeah, I've thought about this. The thing is, outside of the Boys Club, there isn't a whole lot of love for Capt. D-bag. Even the other members are actually pretty decent guys on their own. Another aspect, the new #1 is an outsider brought in, also a woman, BB wonders if it wouldn't be a bad idea to go straight to her when ready. But yes, I agree, there is danger for me in that path.

295 294 JJS - I will have a mass said in honor of your uncle. Are you OK with giving his initials? Posted by: Jornolist at April 23, 2012 11:15 PM (UB6eP) Tony Wallace.

296 Wow.. what town? Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 23, 2012 11:15 PM (DGIjM) No clue. That's all I remember from what my sister discovered. She traced my Mom's side back centuries.

297 Consumption Spreads Faster Today If they mean cancer, I'd agree. But compare radio to the internet, the refrigerator to the microwave, dishwasher and telephone. The curves are the same.

298

yo rons and ettes

so, have you rethugs dashed anyones civil rights yet today?

 

anywho, still waiting on a fool to come over tio fix the starter on my ls

he's three hours late!!!

 

if pgis is around....thats the car i was driving but now it has tint and the transmission works

299 communism is still popular because slavers cannot admit that they are slavers.  So they invent 'isms' of all sorts to avoid just telling you that they think of you as their slave.

300 If you needed more evidence that Turkey, the once "sane" ME nation, is moving in the wrong direction, well, here you go: Turkey blocks Israel from entering NATO. http://tinyurl.com/cq6zgsg

301 No clue. That's all I remember from what my sister discovered. She traced my Mom's side back centuries. Posted by: eman at April 23, 2012 11:17 PM (YrBvI) County Clare is absolutely stunning. My grandfather had a home right on the bay. His home was older than our country. Here are photos of my dads home town. http://www.kilkeephotos.com/

302 so, have you rethugs dashed anyones civil rights yet today?
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I tried, but I just got "hide-rated."

Cheetos if you get the reference.

303 Dear Shrimp: My husband -doc who went to Trinity in Dublin- says funerals in Ireland are very soon after passing because they don't embalm like we do. If you can get it together with the passport, post a note for us. If not, I hope you can go a other time.

304 Fuck!

3-0 Coyotes.  This series is over.

305 I can understand believing either one, but not both at the same time.Posted by: Trimegistus

It's easier to understand once you realize that there is 'ego' in between the two steps, aka the version of conservatism as a public display.

306 @ 211
Thanks Peaches. I'm still getting video and audio at http://youtu.be/nI9FjeUmp14

It's sick humor, but it's not THAT bad. The ObamaZombies sure have thin skin. The vid will probably be scrubbed by morning. Oh well...

307 232 Did you know Jim Treacher is running for president? I'll take staycations to save the taxpayers money. Have you SEEN the White House? That place is pretty sweet. #Treacher2012 Posted by: Retread at April 23, 2012 10:56 PM (joSBv) *NOW* he tells us. Against the crowd we had, if he'd started earlier he could be in the lead now.

308 I gotta give up.  Early start required tomorrow.  Thanks for the ONT, Maet!  Good night, morons everywhere.  Keep yer powder dry.

309 Here are photos of my dads home town. http://www.kilkeephotos.com/ Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 23, 2012 11:20 PM (DGIjM) Cool! Thanks! Perhaps a visit would be grand.

310 Gorgeous, Shrimp!  My dad's mom's mom (of whom I am the spittin' image) was from County Cork.  Bff's family is from Limerick and that looks pretty amazing, too (his uncle owns the swankiest hotel in Ireland (Sneem, County Kerry).  I will probably never get there but, judging by the pics, there isn't a lot of Ireland that isn't jawdroppingly beautiful.

311 Yeah, Turkey is rapidly going to shit. They have some nice shotguns though.

312 4-0. Looks like Classic Jets are going to win.

313

#204 mugiwara

 

Keep in mind that, as things stand from your description, YOU will not be part of any settlement.

 

Protect yourself, and act accordingly.  BB will likely understand.

314 So now into the red wine mmmmm.

315 Africa has the same surface area as the Moon.

316 Heh. Netflix is showcasing two dog documentaries.

317 Goodnight, all!

318 313 Fuck!

3-0 Coyotes. This series is over.

Posted by: logprof at April 23, 2012 11:22 PM (ykSKg)

Another team that plays actual skill hockey bites the dust...F'n trap teams are all advancing.  Stanley Suck Finals here we come

319 Africa has the same surface area as the Moon. Posted by: Trimegistus at April 23, 2012 11:27 PM (LrKfv) And lots more air.

320 Africa has the same surface area as the Moon.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 23, 2012 11:27 PM (LrKfv)

Roughly the same GDP, too.

321 312 Dear Shrimp: My husband -doc who went to Trinity in Dublin- says funerals in Ireland are very soon after passing because they don't embalm like we do. If you can get it together with the passport, post a note for us. If not, I hope you can go a other time. Posted by: Justamom at April 23, 2012 11:22 PM (Sptt Yeah. I know when my grandfather died, we had to leave immediately. There is no way I am going. Its fine. I had no intention of even trying, they understand. I am sure they will lift a pint for their American cousins. You all are so sweet.

322
  My wife's family is from County Donegal.  She's been back twice, I've yet to go.  Maybe someday.

323 Hopefully, an R presidential win would also bring a change to the Senate and the legislators "could" keep Romney in line fiscally.
***
Choosing someone substantially to the left of Bush 43, to do what Bush 43 wasn't conservative enough to do - even when he had strong majorities in both houses - is folly.

Romney will not do what we need a president to do - and there is no serious disagreement about this.

The question then is can we sustain the status quo for at least eight more years. If you don't believe the answer to that is yes, you cannot in good conscience vote for Romney.

324 Yeah, I've thought about this. The thing is, outside of the Boys Club, there isn't a whole lot of love for Capt. D-bag. Even the other members are actually pretty decent guys on their own. Another aspect, the new #1 is an outsider brought in, also a woman, BB wonders if it wouldn't be a bad idea to go straight to her when ready. But yes, I agree, there is danger for me in that path.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 23, 2012 11:16 PM (KI/Ch)

Anybody involved gets "tainted".  10 years ago at the company I was at, one of the managers came to me because he wanted to get rid of a guy, and one of the issues was sexual harassment. This manager was so giddy about the sexual harassment aspect because he knew that was something I didn't tolerate. (Not because of the Lib shit, I just don't want to be paying peoples' salaries so they can bang each other). We fired the guy.

Cue 3 months later, I fire the manager because of some improprities. A female staffer hired after the first guy was fired, comes to me the morning after we fired the manager to tell me that she had been harassed by the manager. The diference between what the two had done was that the employee was graphic in describing his sex activites with his wife, while the manager called the female employee telling her what he wanted to do with her.

I guess the point of this is that if you get involved in any way with this, your comment about her endowment will be brought up. Decent guys or not, when their necks are on the line, other heads will roll to protect theirs.

325 You all are so sweet. Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 23, 2012 11:30 PM (DGIjM) You could have brought back a nice gal for chemjeff.

326 JJS - Messr. Tony Wallace will have a high mass said in his honor. I will make arrangements tomorrow. It will be in Latin.

327 For most people, the story linked below is a sob inducing sad and tender moment. For Obama, it is a tenderizing moment... http://t.co/cp8jI0wg

328 CDR M, any idea what will happen to Lex's content? USNI ought to look at it.

329 Africa has the same surface area as the Moon.
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 23, 2012 11:27 PM (LrKfv)

And lots more air.
Posted by: eman at April 23, 2012 11:29 PM (YrBvI)
So does my butt--to both comments.

330 I guess the point of this is that if you get involved in any way with this, your comment about her endowment will be brought up. Decent guys or not, when their necks are on the line, other heads will roll to protect theirs. Posted by: MrCaniac in the OBX at April 23, 2012 11:34 PM (FoNan) Once again, do not push the Big Red Button.

331 Time for the old folk.   Gotta vote in our primary tomorrow, for what it's worth.


      Goodnite, good people.   Stay safe.

332 Eman and Peaches. Ireland is so pretty. Its so green. Hard to explain... how freakin green it is. and its so old.. there are castle ruins just sitting in fields. My dads home town is stunning.. just stunning. My dad was the oldest son and he had to quit school after the 7th grade to go to work and support his family. (8 kids) They were poor like nobody in America could understand. When he was a young man he got a job in a factory that was American owned.. the owners had another factory in a little small town in Ohio. He was chosen to go train at the American factory and my mom was a secretary. Sweet eh? He is the typical immigrant. Hangs his US Citizen papers in the family room. Armed with a 7th grade education.. he retired CEO. He is the success story in his home town. It was in the local paper when ever we went there. My grandfather was so proud of him.

333
Oh yes, Africa is huge. I have a Nat Geo map of the world pinned to the wall just above my computer monitor. The US (without AK) and China easily fit.


Posted by: Jimbo at April 23, 2012 11:10 PM (O3R/2)

A lot of relative size depends upon the map projection used.

334 321 4-0. Looks like Classic Jets are going to win.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 23, 2012 11:26 PM (Znhm9)

--Their last playoff series win was when they were the Jets!

335

Posted by: kbdabear at April 23, 2012 11:12 PM (Y+DPZ)

Except, it's looking more and more likely that the election was stolen, i.e. we  might   not    have a "depraved electorate" in America b/c the majority did not vote for him. We need to stop voter fraud  so we don't doubt results anymore.

336 Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 23, 2012 11:39 PM (DGIjM) Awesome.

337 Shrimp, I think I have something in my eye . . . what a sweet, wonderful story.  Thank you for sharing it!

338 The question then is can we sustain the status quo for at least eight more years. If you don't believe the answer to that is yes, you cannot in good conscience vote for Romney. Posted by: 18-1 at April 23, 2012 11:33 PM (3aXbg) I don't for one second believe that Romney will spend as profligately as Obama and we sure as hell can't sustain his kind of spending for 4 more. I would vote for a starched white shirt with an R on it ( which is kind of what we're doing) before I would sit this out.

339 Keep in mind that, as things stand from your description, YOU will not be part of any settlement.

Protect yourself, and act accordingly. BB will likely understand.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 23, 2012 11:27 PM (dyvwA)

Yeah, it's really about getting rid of CD. I told BB a settlement for her was more likely than anything, and of course the problems that arise should CD remain in his place.

As far as I'm concerned in it, I'm just advising her for now, but am willing to go to bat for her against CD if we have a solid case. Interesting other tidbit, when I was discussing the strange placement of BB with our supervisor, who also hates CD, I kind of roll my eyes and sarcastically say, "yeah, it soooo strange that they'd want BB, right?" And supervisor mentioned that when she's in on the Boys' Club meetings, she's heard them say things in front of her, as if she were one of the boys, which she'd "admit to under oath if asked to". I suspect it's pretty similar to what I've heard but I didn't press her on it then. BB and I wonder if getting the super on board helps the case, I suspect there are other allies who have heard similar things as well, but I obviously don't want to go running around to a lot of people.

340 335 JJS - Messr. Tony Wallace will have a high mass said in his honor. I will make arrangements tomorrow. It will be in Latin. Posted by: Jornolist at April 23, 2012 11:34 PM (BCz1s) That is the greatest gift. Thank you so much.

341 really hoping this is just R* not being able to write a press announcement or these are some retarded recommendations:

Max Payne 3 PC System Specifications

Operating System:
Windows 7 32/64 Service Pack 1, Windows Vista 32/64 Service Pack 2, Windows XP 32/64 Service Pack 3

Processor:
Intel Dual Core 2.4 GHZ - i7 3930K 6 Core x 3.06 GHZ / AMD Dual Core 2.6 GHZ - FX8150 8 Core x 3.6 GHZ

RAM:
2GB - 16GB

Video Card:
NVIDIA® 8600 GT 512MB VRAM – NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 680 2GB VRAM / Radeon HD 3400 512MB VRAM - Radeon HD 7970 3GB VRAM

Sound Card:
100% Direct X 9.0 compatible – Direct X 9.0 compatible supporting Dolby Digital Live

HDD Space:
35 GB

342

Arhooley you are cracking me up. I think it's more like 11%

 

How are things going? I got excused from jury duty for the last two weeks, my service is done.

343 you cannot in good conscience vote for Romney.

Posted by: 18-1
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Watch me.

344

#204 mugiwara

 

You are currently at the point of "Maximum Win for You". See other's comments for details.

 

You will not be part of the settlement. You cannot "win more". Intentional involvement means you start losing, as others have posted, and probably big. Being called in and telling the strictly-relevant, terse, truth, is not a win either. It is a minimum loss, but you may have to do it.

345 346 Shrimp, I think I have something in my eye . . . what a sweet, wonderful story. Thank you for sharing it! Posted by: Peaches at April 23, 2012 11:41 PM (lJ2es) Only in America is that possible.

346 Posted by: 18-1 at April 23, 2012 11:33 PM (3aXbg) you are just attempting to rationalize to yourself why it is okay to pout and stay home instead of actively voting Obama out of office. Posted by: chemjeff at April 23, 2012 11:42 PM (7FadD) Yep. I'm voting for Romney to oust Obama. It is the hand we have been dealt.

347 communist manifesto  -- 1848.


see where it lies within the Wiki timeline --  http://tinyurl.com/cwyff9


coincidence?  No.


The left always finds a way to be pro-slavery.  Stamp it out in one form, they resurrect it in another.

348 "Why Marxism? Start with rationalised envy and a vindictive desire for power over others, wrap it in a drag of altruism, and then take it from there."

And there is the reason why Obama embraced all those radical, socialist ideas. Oh sure he was surrounded by it fairly early on, and it was oh so chic in college, but without the even earlier aggrievement of being abandoned by father and jerked around the world, then dumped, by mother, he wouldn't have the gut-level connection with it. He feels the victim, he wants retribution and the power to prevent him ever being told what to do again.

349

Look at it this way. If now is not the right time for a conservative, when will it ever be? I f your goal is getting back to a more constitutional form of government, why do the republicans insist on throwing out progressives each and every election?

 

To claim that Mitt is anything other than a progressive republican is just plain wrong.

350 When I was young I remember a teacher saying that if communism was properly practiced it would be the best form of government. I halfway believed that until I grew up some andlearned how to think critically. Commmunism will never work with the human race.

Posted by: Bill R. at April 23, 2012 10:13 PM (ZjexS)

Communism does work perfectly. They're called ants.

351 How are things going? I got excused from jury duty for the last two weeks, my service is done.
Posted by: KZnextzone
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Hey, dude! Things are so-so as usual. Waiting for literary agent to act on his assurance that he will read the latest manuscript "ASAP," which I calculate to be seven weeks. How about you?

352 Choosing someone substantially to the left of Bush 43, to do what Bush 43 wasn't conservative enough to do - even when he had strong majorities in both houses - is folly.

Romney will not do what we need a president to do - and there is no serious disagreement about this.

The question then is can we sustain the status quo for at least eight more years. If you don't believe the answer to that is yes, you cannot in good conscience vote for Romney.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 23, 2012 11:33 PM (3aXbg)

;;;;

You know who this helps? Heh. Seriously, it helps Romney. I encourage you to continue in this vein as much as you desire.

 

353 You're projecting again.

354 Shrimp, That is pretty cool. My Great grandfather was the same. Started as a janitor of a bank to a bank teller to the vice pres of the largest bank in Miami. My great grandmother was always a little insecure because she only had a 6th grade education. I was lucky enough to know both of them for long enough to make an impression. I love stories like that and wish it was the same in a lot of ways. Unofrtunately, now it's all sorts of outside verification and degrees and assuming more debt. Gone are the days of working your way up the ladder.

355 Communism does work perfectly. They're called ants.
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic
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See comment #91.

356 To claim that Mitt is anything other than a progressive republican is just plain wrong. Posted by: GMB at April 23, 2012 11:45 PM (kPe9l) Who cares? Ousting Obama is paramount. We will fix the GOP later.

357 Flamethrower should be deployed for NYPD etc. on May 1.

358 Communism does work perfectly. They're called ants.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at April 23, 2012 11:46 PM (9pdFK)

--Even socialism at least works in monastic communities.  The difference between socialism in government and in monasteries is that in the latter, A) There's an overarching moral superstructure that all members share, and B) ultimately, participation is voluntary.  The opposite is the case for government socialism.

359 I was watching Pastor Michael Yousef's show last night and he was getting quite political -- he went so far as to say that not voting was a "sin" and that we need to vote for the candidate who we think is  more  in  tune  with  our Founding  Fathers values.  Couldn't agree with him more. Romney is not perfect but he does love America and what she stands for. I can't wait til Nov. 6 '12!

360

I'm still doing the Calabasas Sun to Fri and then the turn and burn on the weekends. Let me know if you get to SC and we can go to the range. If you want to do Rattsville I'm home every weekend.

The house is in short sale and I got my Roley Poley!

 

361 And with that I'm going to bed. Night all. Thanks for being so welcoming.

362 353 wow Shrimps that is an amazing story! Posted by: chemjeff at April 23, 2012 11:43 PM (7FadD) Figure the odds of them ever meeting... My moms hometown is really small. Just a dot on a map.

363 Communism does work perfectly. They're called ants.
We are a monarchy, soft-fleshed peasant. BTW, are you finished with that picnic basket?

364 Kratos - how's the employment search going?

365 You are currently at the point of "Maximum Win for You". See other's comments for details.

You will not be part of the settlement. You cannot "win more". Intentional involvement means you start losing, as others have posted, and probably big. Being called in and telling the strictly-relevant, terse, truth, is not a win either. It is a minimum loss, but you may have to do it.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 23, 2012 11:44 PM (dyvwA)

Yeah, I get what you're all saying. I'm really leaning towards just telling BB to take my easy way out and be done with it, but man is she ever pissed at this guy, and the satisfaction of riding ourselves of the douche would result in my permanent shadenboner.

366 communist manifesto -- 1848.


see where it lies within the Wiki timeline -- http://tinyurl.com/cwyff9


coincidence? No.
-------------------

Law of Conservation of Ruling Classes

367 To claim that Mitt is anything other than a progressive republican is just plain wrong.

Posted by: GMB at April 23, 2012 11:45 PM (kPe9l)

;;;;

I don't care if Romney is a proressive Republican. I don't care if he's a cross-dressing penguin. I'm not missing the chance to vote against Barack Obama.

;;;;

Period. The. End. Through.

 

368 Was checking out our horizontal milling center today. A 15,000 lb behemoth that chews thru 15 kW when it's running, and what did I spy up in the corner of the cabin? A curly light bulb. Happy Earth Day, hippies!

369 I don't for one second believe that Romney will spend as profligately as Obama and we sure as hell can't sustain his kind of spending for 4 more.

So you think that in spite of Romney's record and rhetoric he will cut spending? That he has been lying for decades so that he can become the most conservative President since Coolidge?

People seem to forget that even Reagan didn't manage to cut spending. And Romney has consistently claimed to be far to the left of Reagan.

The absolute best case scenario for a President Romney is that we are spending $4t + inflation/year for the next 8 years. And more realistically a spending curve somewhere between Bush 43 and Obama.

370 I got my Roley Poley!
Posted by: KZnextzone
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Duuuuude! I was gonna ask about that. We ought to do D-land soon.

371

Posted by: eman at April 23, 2012 11:49 PM (YrBvI)

Indeed. First things first. When the house is on fire, you don't worry about how the kitchen needs renovating.

 

If only McCain had fought when he found out the ballot boxes had been stuffed, maybe we'd be actually fixing the party now instead of just trying to save our country's life. Alack and alas.

372 eesh, HardOCP and OC still going crazy for cheap ass Korean 27" inch IPS monitors

373 The absolute best case scenario for a President Romney is that we are spending $4t + inflation/year for the next 8 years. And more realistically a spending curve somewhere between Bush 43 and Obama.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 23, 2012 11:52 PM (3aXbg)


about where I would put him as well and frankly, I don't see it being that rosy

374 Good evening. I've been looking through the ONT, and nothing inspired me to say anything. And I would find my eyes would close, then open, and several messages had scrolled by. So I thought of something to say after all... Good night.

375

I repeat: I'm not missing my chance to vote against Barack Obama.

 

 

376 Dang, after just one little poof of Flovent, sweetbabyangelgirl is already showing signs of much improvement.  So happy!!!!  400 bucks well spent (and I don't remember ever consciously thinking that after a day at Bloomingdales).  I'm gonna go have a snuggle with that fat furball.

'Night, guys!  God bless . . .

377 So I lied, So you think that in spite of Romney's record and rhetoric he will cut spending? That he has been lying for decades so that he can become the most conservative President since Coolidge? Nope, but I think he is aware that the electorate is so infuriated by the spending levels that we will foam at the mouth and either all go Galt or forcibly take over. Either way, it won't be allowed. Now I am really going to bed

378 All right, time to focus 100% on packing.  Early trip tomorrow.

Have a good night, y'all!

379 ;You know who this helps? Heh.Seriously, it helps Romney. I encourageyou to continue in this vein as much as you desire.
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Hey if you are basing your vote on what letter you want the President to have by his name when the country collapses, by all means, vote for the Massachusetts moderate.

I had thought there was a general agreement the status quo was untenable. Apparently many people believe it is good enough.

380 The absolute best case scenario for a President Romney is that we are spending $4t + inflation/year for the next 8 years. And more realistically a spending curve somewhere between Bush 43 and Obama. Posted by: 18-1 at April 23, 2012 11:52 PM (3aXbg) Perhaps you have a suggestion.

381 That is pretty cool. My Great grandfather was the same. Started as a janitor of a bank to a bank teller to the vice pres of the largest bank in Miami. My great grandmother was always a little insecure because she only had a 6th grade education. I was lucky enough to know both of them for long enough to make an impression. I love stories like that and wish it was the same in a lot of ways. Unofrtunately, now it's all sorts of outside verification and degrees and assuming more debt. Gone are the days of working your way up the ladder. Posted by: Lallyjay at April 23, 2012 11:47 PM (PUTM+) Very cool. Makes ya proud, doesnt it. It has changed. I doubt my dad could get any job with only a 7th grade education now. He would have started his own though.. just the way he is.

382 Who cares? Ousting Obama is paramount. We will fix the GOP later.

Posted by: eman at April 23, 2012 11:49 PM (YrBvI)

 

I will believe that when I see it. The republicans have made it more than clear that there is very little room left for conservatives of any stripe and social conservatives in particular.

 

What the repubs need are a few more mccains,castles,scazzafazas,murkowskis,smiths,lugars,hatchs, et all. Then we'll have those damned donkys on the run. Hell yeah!

 

Don't forget miss grahmnesty. 15 to 20 more of that type in D.C. will scare the hell out of the donks.

383 Hey Jornolist. I'm all settled in South Carolina, thanks for asking. Today was my first "official" day of work and I'm doing what I do best, making primers in order to mass produce protein constructs, which I will purify from the "corpses" of thoroughly ground-up bacteria. Best of luck on your employment change.

384

Posted by: Peaches at April 23, 2012 11:55 PM (lJ2es)

 

Aw, such good news, Peaches! God bless kitty

385 335 JJS - Messr. Tony Wallace will have a high mass said in his honor. I will make arrangements tomorrow. It will be in Latin. Posted by: Jornolist at April 23, 2012 11:34 PM (BCz1s) Heh. I'm the eldest son of an eldest son and an eldest daughter, so -- no great surprise -- I'm the oldest of my cousins. Accordingly, when I was baptized in the Catholic church, I got the Latin version, while all other cousins got theirs in English. Since not all of the families were Catholic, the next male to be baptized was my cousin "T" -- and much was made of the quasi-exorcism and protection of Christ that was requested in the process, since nobody had bothered to learn what the Latin meant. Fast forward 16 years, and I'd managed to mainly keep from getting caught....er, I mean, kept my nose clean -- while my cousin had been a little more problematic. And the family rumor was, "remember all that casting out of evil and Christ's protection of the innocent? -- it only works in Latin." Not that I believe this, myself, but just for the record -- should I pass and morons mark my passing -- Latin, please.

386 Excellent ONT as usual, Maet.
 
VDH has a longish piece out at pjmedia that lays out a solid argument that the Left only cares about power:
 
http://tinyurl.com/77pont7
 
Oh, and I'd vote for Romney's feces if that was the only choice from the JEF.

387 Who cares? Ousting Obama is paramount. We will fix the GOP later.
Posted by: eman at April 23, 2012 11:49 PM (YrBvI)


fixing the GOP is not the hill to die on

388

376 mugiwara

 

Supporting BB is a Good Thing, in the Cosmic Order of Things, but Not So Good For You in the Company and Future Employers View, unless things are very clear and doccumented ... and you get  lucky.

 

We've all read "The Exploits of Stuck", and applauded as he emerged victorious and triumphant ... but Capt. D. is far more of a threat than Che Boy.

 

Exercise caution. Privately supporting BB is good, but unless and until you've got a well documented case, both of you personally risk a lot.

389 Imagine how scary it would be if Obamao woke up before 9:30...

390

Someone once said of Mitt that he's a businessman who listens to his stock-holders. If he's POTUS (please God), his stoc-holders will b "We the People"; if we hold his feet to the fire, make him keep his conservative campaign promises, and elect a conservative House/Senate, I think  we'll be ok. And, ABO!!

391 Posted by: GMB at April 23, 2012 11:56 PM (kPe9l) How will keeping Obama President help?

392 Nope, but I think he is aware that the electorate is so infuriated by the spending levels that we will foam at the mouth and either all go Galt or forcibly take over.
Either way, it won't be allowed.
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Won't be allowed by who?

And you realize the number of people who will be infuriated if the government really does cut spending is larger, right?

Almost every personal political incentive on dealing with the debt bomb is to do nothing. There will be no persuading Romney to the right of the issue once (and that is a big if) he wins the election.

393 18-1 seriously? sit out then....you are part of the problem...if you think obama and romney are anything alike you might want to get checked out.......

394 I'm doing what I do best, making primers in order to mass produce protein constructs, which I will purify from the "corpses" of thoroughly ground-up bacteria.


Are you in academia or industry, you crazy Titan?

395 Latin, please. Posted by: cthulhu at April 23, 2012 11:57 PM (kaalw) Latin for me too, please!!!

396 Yeah, I get what you're all saying. I'm really leaning towards just telling BB to take my easy way out and be done with it, but man is she ever pissed at this guy, and the satisfaction of riding ourselves of the douche would result in my permanent shadenboner.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 23, 2012 11:51 PM (KI/Ch)

Emotions do not work for you in cases like this. Passions can overwhelm us and make us do many things we regret later, and this is one. She is pissed, she wants others to be pissed. You should be a disinterested 3rd party. If the bosses call you in to ask you about it, be truthful and tell them what you know first hand, not anything that you have heard others say. Be disinterested, do your job. Remember, when it gets to this point, no one has any friends, even BB is not your friend, she is a coworker, and when push comes to shove, she will turn on you to protect her paycheck.

397 Posted by: fluffy at April 24, 2012 12:00 AM (z9HTb) Academia. I'm in that "half-way house" between grad school and the real world.

398 make him keep his conservative campaign promises
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How many trillions per year has Romney pledged to cut the budget by?

399

Who cares? Ousting Obama is paramount. We will fix the GOP later.
Posted by: eman at April 23, 2012 11:49 PM (YrBvI)

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You can't fix stupid. Rationally it would be more expedient to let SCoaMF's minions start a civil war and get rid of them. Less drastic would be let them run it into the ground. Personally I'm hoping it all comes crashing down. I'm ready to scrap.

400 Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

401 I'm OK with voting for the lesser of two evils. That's what I did last election, so it won't butt-hurt me to do it again this time.

402 "fixing the GOP is not the hill to die on

Posted by: The Dude at April 23, 2012 11:59 PM (M8yfa) "

 

Saving America is the only hill worth dying on right now. Fixing the GOP is secondary to the ultimate goal. We save the country and we live to fight another day and fix the party then; but if America dies b/c O gets a 2nd term, there will be NO GOP to fix, period.

403 I don't mean to brag, I don't mean to boast, but I like hot butter on my breakfast toast... And I make a KILLER old-fashioned New England gingerbread, YUMMMMM!!!

404 And you realize the number of people who will be infuriated if the government really does cut spending is larger, right? Almost every personal political incentive on dealing with the debt bomb is to do nothing. There will be no persuading Romney to the right of the issue once (and that is a big if) he wins the election. Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 12:00 AM (3aXbg) Well in that case there is nothing that can help. Mitt is the chick with whom we must dance. Dance or go home and sulk.

405 I had thought there was a general agreement the status quo was untenable. Apparently many people believe it is good enough.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 23, 2012 11:56 PM (3aXbg)

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The status quo can't happen. We are going to have a rough 8-10 years. I'm voting for the guy who loves the country rather than the one who hates it. Your stating of opinion as if it is fact doesn't creat a fact.

 

You are wrong. Romney will be better than Obama. Romney likes America, and has hundreds of millions of reasons to want to see her do well.

;;;;

How will voting for Obama help me?

406

Hmm similarities between Mitt and barky?

Which one do I vote for? The guy that signed socialized medicine into law or the the guy who signed socialized medicine into law?

 

Which one do I vote for? The guy who wants to take away cetain types of firearms or the guy who actually did?

 

Are you sure you want to go this route. There are some more.

 

Kicking barky out is good for the short term. Long term not so good. Just kick the can down the road and hope for the best?

407 Jimmy Kimmell just had a funny joke.. How many people does it take to screw in a $50.00 lightbulb? For $50.. the lightbulb is screwing you.

408 374 Communism does work perfectly. They're called ants.
We are a monarchy, soft-fleshed peasant. BTW, are you finished with that picnic basket?

Posted by: queen ant at April 23, 2012 11:51 PM (nU/dt)

Did someone say "picinic basket"?

409 Personally I'm hoping it all comes crashing down. I'm ready to scrap.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 24, 2012 12:02 AM (UpwlP)

And do you visualize yourself on top or underneath the scrap heap, pray tell?

410 Kicking barky out is good for the short term. Long term not so good. Just kick the can down the road and hope for the best?

Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 12:05 AM (kPe9l)

If Barky isn't kicked out, there will be no "long term".  There might not be, anyway, but if Barky gets re-elected that will be the definite end of America, proper.  No ifs, ands or buts.

411 For all his faults, even Romney isn't as douchey as this guy (h/t Weasel Zippers): Ãœber-RINO Jon Huntsman Compares GOP To Communist Party of ChinaÂ… http://tinyurl.com/7rgl2wh

412 I just need to know how voting for Obama is going to help me or the country.

413 Kicking barky out is good for the short term. Long term not so good. Just kick the can down the road and hope for the best? Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 12:05 AM (kPe9l) Sheesh. We know ousting Obama is only the beginning step. We know there is much more to do and we can't count on any one person to do it all. Please, we welcome hearing an alternative from you. Perhaps you know of some other candidate that can defeat Obama in November.

414 eh, getting later and later each week for when the daywalkers finally leave at night ie. the continuation of the ONT going down the shitter

415 Exercise caution. Privately supporting BB is good, but unless and until you've got a well documented case, both of you personally risk a lot.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 23, 2012 11:59 PM (dyvwA)

Yeah, I told her I'll go to bat for her, but only if we have an airtight case and at least someone else willing to testify, which is why it's very tempting to try and get our supervisor on board who seems to have more. Also, I work in unionized public service and pretty much can't be fired at this point. Annual reviews have always been excellent, no blemishes on my record. I'm even pretty tight with #4 in the Boys' Club, his friendship with CD notwithstanding. But yeah, those guys could fuck with me worse than they are with BB if they decided to, even if they can't fire me...

416

If your world is going to crashing down if barky gets a second term, you better start stocking up on survival gear now.

A Mitt victory is no guarenteed thing.

417

do you visualize yourself on top or underneath the scrap heap, pray tell?

Bottom worked out for Zimmerman...

 

Just Sayin'....

418 I did my 3rd party vote for Perot (I was young and stupid.  I knew I didn't want Clinton, but couldn't bring myself to vote for the Republican.  So I decided that I'd do some form of Protest.) I've wished I had that vote back many times. 

It's going to be either Obama or Romney.  It's a lesser of the evils vote for me, but I'll crawl over broken glass to vote Romney. 

419 Fine. So we all stay home, Obama wins, and the collapse happens sooner. Is that what you want, 18-1?
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Nope.

We all go vote and work for conservative congress critters and vote third party for President.

The final tally is something like 45-35-20. The Republican party finally gets it - the establishment Republicans are more afraid of their voters, finally, then the State Media and the permanent bureaucracy.

The Senate votes down every SC nominee Barry puts up.

The House breaks the budget into parts and sends essential services to the Senate and then the President to veto or not. His choice.

Then they never get around to writing a budget for the rest.

Is it likely? No. Is it more likely then Romney suddenly becoming a far rightwing warrior after winning the election when he clearly promised to not govern that way? Oh hell yes.

But isn't saving the country worth taking a chance? We don't have eight years to screw around with Romney. And we all know it.

420 How's everyone doing?  Zeera's at work and in the HQ, around comment 500.  Just wow you guys... 

421 Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 12:05 AM


Face it; you aren't getting a whole loaf. Take half, for now. Starving the populace in hopes they back your favorite cause in the glorious revolution is taking an awful big chance.

422 And do you visualize yourself on top or underneath the scrap heap, pray tell?

Posted by: sistrum at April 24, 2012 12:07 AM (AyryN)

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Thats yet to be determined.

423 Which unprofitable parts of The United States will Mitt chop off and sell? Cali to the mexicans? Give Detroit back to the French?

424 A Mitt victory is no guarenteed thing. Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 12:09 AM (kPe9l) What pearls you cast! Please tell us more.

425

Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 12:05 AM (kPe9l)

 

Diffreneces between Mitt and O, off the top of my head: O is in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood  (and helped get them in power in several ME countries and now Israel is in that much more danger). Mitt is not.

 

O voted  to allow survivors of botched abortions to die alone in dirty lined closets. Mitt did not.

 

O is friends with Ayers, Dohrn, Wright, Farrakhan, and assorted  other  Marxists and Commies. Mitt is not.

 

O hates this country. Mitt does not.

 

O wants to start a race war. Mitt does not.

 

O loathes the Constituion. Mitt does not.

 

O has  no  respect  for  the  SCOTUS  (and scolds them in public)  or Congress (and bypasses them every chance he gets). Mitt does.

O eats dog and signs bills to allow the slaughter of America's wild horses. Mitt's wife loves horses and competes with them.

 

426 I have grown sick of hearing these idiots who respond to any historical critique of Communism "Oh but it's never been done correctly." Don't they ever think for a moment that MAYBE the reason for that is that it's structurally impossible to implement "correctly"? It's like they think it's only builder error that prevents the Perpetual Motion Machine from working. Human Nature may not be so unalterable as Physics, but it's damn close.

427 But isn't saving the country worth taking a chance? We don't have eight years to screw around with Romney. And we all know it. Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 12:10 AM (3aXbg) Ah, so that's your plan. Obama wins, but a fierce and mighty Conservative Congress saves the Nation. Then you woke up.

428 If your world is going to crashing down if barky gets a second term, you better start stocking up on survival gear now.

Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 12:09 AM (kPe9l)

If Barky wins, I'm likely out of here.  There would be no hope, whatsoever, for any population dumb enough and fucked up enough to elect that pathetic retard twice.  That would just not be a nation I would would want to be associated with.

This first suicidal vote was the result of the psychotic break America had from the credit crisis.  Understandable, especially seeing how it was all so amazingly mishandled and fumbled.  But a second vote for Barky ... those are people I don't trust and do NOT want to live around.

429 Yeah, I told her I'll go to bat for her, but only if
we have an airtight case and at least someone else willing to testify,
which is why it's very tempting to try and get our supervisor on board
who seems to have more. Also, I work in unionized public service and
pretty much can't be fired at this point. Annual reviews have always been
excellent, no blemishes on my record. I'm even pretty tight with #4 in
the Boys' Club, his friendship with CD notwithstanding. But yeah, those guys could fuck with me worse than they are with BB if they decided to, even if they can't fire me...

Posted by: mugiwara at April 24, 2012 12:09 AM (KI/Ch)

Union or not, even being tight with #4 doesn't help with 1, 2, or 3. As I said before, do not volunteer yourself for this. This does not end well for you.

430 How many trillions per year has Romney pledged to cut the budget by?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 12:02 AM (3aXbg)

 

Are you fucking kidding me? Romney signed onto Ryans budget. As Barack Obama said "He called it marvalous" Obama calls it social darwinism.

I don't know what the fuck you want the guy to do. He's rich but not rich enough to pay it off himself.

431 18-1, you're a Paulbot, aren't you? If not, you sound just like one which is  just   as bad.

432 Hi, gang!  'Sup? 

433 If the roles were reversed and your guy had won the primary instead, wouldn't you want me to support your candidate, even if he/she hadn't proposed "trillions per year" in cuts and even if he/she also supported "socialized medicine" and even if he/she was a flawed candidate in some other way? Posted by: chemjeff at April 24, 2012 12:13 AM (7FadD) Amen ChemJeff. Nobody is perfect. Romney is competent. And I think he is up for the job. I really do. Unlike the current retard.

434 Your stating of opinion as if it is fact doesn't creat a fact.You are wrong. Romney will be better than Obama.
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No, I'm stating the facts.

If you want a Republican budget cutter you have to go back to Coolidge.

Reagan gave it a try, but he couldn't pull it off.

Romney has claimed, personally and repeatedly, that he is no Reagan, let alone a Coolidge, and his record puts him to the left of Bush 43.

So the most likely case is that Romney would be better then Obama, but still dramatically increase spending at least as much as Bush 43. But let's even argue best case. Romney ups Reagan and mandates no new spending.

In eight years he will have spent $32T in 2012 dollars - running the numbers roughly doubling the debt to something like $30T.

And in doing so, and remember this is Romney's best case, we collapse just as surely as we will under Obama.

So ultimately there is no different in voting for Obama over Romney. When you've got a gunshot wound and are bleeding out a bandaid is no better a solution then leeches.

435

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 12:10 AM (3aXbg)

;;;';'

45--30-20?

...

I'm sorry, you don't live in the real world. Never mind, I'll leave you alone.

436 Face it; you aren't getting a whole loaf. Take half, for now. Starving the populace in hopes they back your favorite cause in the glorious revolution is taking an awful big chance.

Posted by: fluffy at April 24, 2012 12:11 AM (z9HTb)

 

Yeah you are right. Thats what G. Washington and T. Jefferson should of done back in 1775. Settle for a half a loaf.

 

I am not getting any part of a loaf. I am not dependent on the government. Society could crumble right now and I do believe that myself, my family and my friends would survive.

 

Mitt expects the votes of social conservatives like myself because he is the lessor of evils. I will get nothing in return for my vote other than an empty promise that he is not as bad as the other guy.

 

That line worked in 88, 92,96,00,04,08...... 6 strikes your out. If going all 1775 isn't something you feel you are not capable of doing then I don't want to be on your side. You will side with your comfort and security and you will pay with the coin of other peoples freedom.

437 If Barky wins, I'm likely out of here. There would be no hope, whatsoever, for any population dumb enough and fucked up enough to elect that pathetic retard twice.



Nice idea, but really where would you go? I can't think of any conservative bastions in the world anymore. Terraform Mars maybe.

438 18-1, you're a Paulbot, aren't you? If not, you sound just like one which is just as bad.
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Nope. I'm a realist, and the Paulbots are...not. Something I should point out you currently share in common with them.

439 What I want to know is who is this "perfect conservative" that we are suppossed to be voting for?

The only 3rd party we will probably get is this Bloomberg vanity/Obama Re-election project that is being talked about.

440

I read that there seems to be some hesitation about voting for Romney, and thoughts of athirdparty vote ....

 

I wanted Perry, or Gingrich, or ... but things didn't happen that way.

 

Perot might have had a chance, had he stayed the course ... but he didn't. We have no one of his stature today, so Third Party votes are ... anti-Romney votes. It's that simple.

 

Realpolitik: it's Romney or JEF this November ...

 

Choose wisely, Mr. Bond Fellow Voters. Your next witticism free vote may be your last ...

441 Very little hay was made today of the coming crash in the SS system. Per the Trustee's report, the Disability fund is empty as of 2016. Broke. That's 3 years sooner than last year's projection.
 
Social Security is actually in the least trouble, as it won't run dry until 2035. That's like forever, right?
 
Then there is Medicare. It's good until 2024, a whole 12 years from now. No change in projected bankruptcy date from last year was seen. But there is a minor little problem -- the Trustees assume that there will be no 'doc fix' this time, a 21% difference in payment rate to doctors. It also assumes that OCare will realize the full $500 billion in 'projected savings' from fraud crackdowns etc over ten years. Well, OCare has been in effect for 2 years now; anyone notice the big honking headlines claiming $100 billion has been saved to date? Er, Medicare spending went up 5% over the last year.
 
There is an entitlement crash coming and no one can stop it.

442 Unlike the current retard.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 24, 2012 12:18 AM (DGIjM)

===

who is also either behind or abetting Fast & Furious.  If nothing else, can we at least attempt to get a Prez who doesn't condone murder?

443 18-1 : You speak as if Obama gives a fuck about what Congress does. He's ALREADY demonstrated he'll do what he damn pleases with EOs and verbal trickery! Then all your Congress can do is impeach and convict. Congratulations, you've got Biden as President!

444

I think the Romney camp can fight back:

Don't eat dogs

You wouldn't be down on Polygamy if it was Islam

Already lost The war on women meme

probably takes fewer vacations

would be happy with the basement bowling alley

I don't think the public would stand for another Palinization (especially of a candidate wife), and would push back fast

ABO

445
Oh. A Microsoft Outlook reminder just popped up that said BITE NAILS. All this political stuff happening and we're still awaiting the Supremes' decision on ObamaCare.

446

mugiwara:

 

1.  I once thought as you do ... still do ... but I now face unacceptable and unnecessary risks if I do more than think that way.

 

2. MrCraniac is posting very strong amd worthwhile words. You should ponder them well, and very likely do as he recommends.

447 I am off to bed. You are all so kind. I cherish you all. and Journalist.. I will never forget your kindness in having a mass said for the uncle of a perfect stranger. That is so nice. I dont even have words to tell you how sweet that is. God bless you all.

448 Thats what G. Washington and T. Jefferson should of done back in 1775. Settle for a half a loaf.

To some extend they did settle for half a loaf.  Or at least some of them did regarding slavery.  They knew they couldn't outlaw slavery from the start, so they did the 3/5th's of a person thing. 

449

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 24, 2012 12:20 AM (tKFT6)

 

Funnily enough, it's conservatives' turn to say we'll move to Canada. Canada under Harper is far more conservative than America under O.

Israel would be my choice.

450 You will side with your comfort and security and you will pay with the coin of other peoples freedom.
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The irony is the Romneybots will not get to enjoy any significant comfort either. Sacrificing their honor to keep the status quo going slightly longer leaves them just as doomed in the very near term.

Collapse isn't something coming in a generation. It will be by the end of this decade under a moderate just as much as a liberal.

451 Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 12:19 AM (3aXbg) And yet somehow your Avenging Congress of Justice will save us. The Collapse is inevitable, but the nature of it is not set in stone, and more importantly, so it is for the Recovery. Mitt's purpose is not to prevent the Collapse. His purpose is to help make the collapse something from which we can recover and recover well.

452

Jeebus I get tired of these fucking whiners. You act like there are just Trillions in the budget to cut. Even the fucking Paultardians understand that if you cut $1 Trillion that you have to cut defense by half.

 

It's going to take time to turn this mess around. Getting it on the right track will help more than any fucking $1 Trillion in cuts. If you stop the growth you give people confindence, set a tax policy that is as permanent as it can be and get rid of Obamacare.

 

You can't fix this mess overnight.

453 You will side with your comfort and security and you will pay with the coin of other peoples freedom.


Awfully broad brush you are using, Sonny. I make a brief comment, you think you can look deep into my soul.
If going all 1775 isn't something you feel you are not capable of doing then I don't want to be on your side.


Very well. Go slither off to your bunker.

454 Maet, you really need to bring out the banhammer when the ONT starts getting into the political bs

455 Chemjeff - Like I said, so much for 18-1's reliance on Congress to be our savior against Second Term Coming Obama.

456 You can't fix this mess overnight.

Posted by: robtr at April 24, 2012 12:25 AM (MtwBb)

 

Thats the rub. To people like me, we don't see any will power by the GOP to fix it at all. The GOP has held the purse strings for the last 18 months yet the spending keeps on going.

457 You speak as if Obama gives a fuck about what Congress does. He's ALREADY demonstrated he'll do what he damn pleases with EOs and verbal trickery! Then all your Congress can do is impeach and convict. Congratulations, you've got Biden as President!
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And here is the very problem that we face.

Obama has committed high crimes and misdemeanors.

The Republicans will not do anything about it because it would rock the boat.

So we are supposed to pin all our hopes that yet another go along to get along Republican can not only beat Obama, but if elected will in fact take on the very reality that DC universally believes in right now.

458 Maet, you really need to bring out the banhammer when the ONT starts getting into the political bs
Posted by: The Dude
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Now see here ONTers: you're going to have fun if it makes you MISERABLE.

459 Maet, you really need to bring out the banhammer when the ONT starts getting into the political bs Posted by: The Dude at April 24, 2012 12:28 AM (M8yfa) Why is that? The ONT is no stranger to politics.

460 It's going to take time to turn this mess around.
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We Don't Have Time.

Its do or die. And a vote for Romney is the latter.

461 Well, I'm off to bed, but I really appreciate the advice. Think I'll tell BB of the very potential pitfalls for all involved if things don't go right, and to think about it for a few days. I predict she'll opt for the painless out from the Boys' Club HQ, an out in which I need not be involved in any way, and we can hope the Cap'n lands some higher profile job where his creepiness and incompetence can be someone else's problem.

Night all!

462 Very well. Go slither off to your bunker.

Posted by: fluffy at April 24, 2012 12:26 AM (z9HTb)

 

Yes it is pretty broad brush. I would go slithering off to my bunker but I know in the end people like you will be trying to bust the doors of doom trying to get in.

Actually if you know anything about survival you will not have a bunker at all. Beieng wed to a single spot of territory is a reciepe for disaster.

463 Thats the rub. To people like me, we don't see any will power by the GOP to fix it at all. The GOP has held the purse strings for the last 18 months yet the spending keeps on going.
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What's the definition of insanity?

Let's nominate another weak kneed Republican who has been clear he won't do anything serious about spending!

464 So we are supposed to pin all our hopes that yet another go along to get along Republican can not only beat Obama, but if elected will in fact take on the very reality that DC universally believes in right now. Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 12:30 AM (3aXbg) Not all our hopes, just some of them. Again, Mitt can not stop the Collapse. He might be able to help make it something from which we can recover.

465 Now see here ONTers: you're going to have fun if it makes you MISERABLE.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 24, 2012 12:30 AM (yYpN2)

The ONT used to be fun though, even Bl*zer's metldown. Though as I can now count the people I actually like in the ONT on a single hand, I have to give it to some of the old ONT posters as they really knew when this thing was going tits up and bailed

466 Its do or die. And a vote for Romney is the latter. Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 12:32 AM (3aXbg) Why can't we elect this mighty Congress you envision and elect Romney at the same time?

467 Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 12:33 AM


Run along, Tiger. Wouldn't want the other revolutionaries thinking you associated with the likes of me.

468 Its do or die. And a vote for Romney is the latter.
Posted by: 18-1
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A vote for Obama is DO!

- sweep your kitchen floor every day
- organize your mail
- wear bold colors
- commit national suicide

469 The ONT is no stranger to politics.

Posted by: eman at April 24, 2012 12:31 AM (YrBvI)

wasn't a long time ago outside of maybe a post here and there which then everyone bitched about. Used to be one of the only typically non-political threads that didn't happen on the weekends

470

That's harsh dude

Breitbart was here

471 478 Maet, you really need to bring out the banhammer when the ONT starts getting into the political bs
Posted by: The Dude at April 24, 2012 12:28 AM (M8yfa)

Well the second O in ONT does stand for Open so it's not like politics is off-limits...

And we've seen patriotism concern trolls like GMB before. Eh.

472 Thats the rub. To people like me, we don't see any will power by the GOP to fix it at all. The GOP has held the purse strings for the last 18 months yet the spending keeps on going.

Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 12:29 AM (kPe9l)

 

Oh fuck, we only control 1/3, the house passed a budget. The senate wouldn't even vote on it. It's going to be a long war to turn things around. Not a quick battle.

473 You don't favor a political solution at all, do you? You're like GMB, a keyboard revolutionary

Posted by: chemjeff at April 24, 2012 12:34 AM (7FadD)

 

Keyboard revolutionary? LOLzer

A Battery 1/18th FA Aug 83 to Oct 95. HQ/HHC 516 Military Police Bn. Sep 2001 sept  2007 Two tours in downtown baghdad back before the surge. Some fun there eh?

474 When was that, in your opinion?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 24, 2012 12:35 AM (7FadD)

eesh, about 4 or maybe 5 years ago is when the ONT's tone really changed

475 And yet somehow your Avenging Congress of Justice will save us.
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The Constitutional power is there, and there is a reasonable chance that a Congress committed to addressing our survival could win politically in pursuing such a line of policy.

The bigger problem is that the Republican congressional leadership is about as gutless as Romney.

However, the very real fallout of Romney losing preciously because the right abandoned him might have a positive effect on them. It certainly sets their incentives to get serious in a way nothing else will.

All said, I find this unlikely to succeed, but again, a small chance with rejecting Romney beats the no chance we have with him as our standard bearer.

476 18-1 : The problem is that "doing something about it" would be useless, what with Dingy Harry and Co still roosting in the other chamber. So all it could result in is "rocking the boat". I don't like it, I don't like it all, but there it is.

477 Reading Ace's Twitter page and the response to the SCOAMF's doggie dinner from the lefties is universal

"How dare you! Shame! He was six years old! How dare you wingnuts pick on a CHILD"

No variations, no humor. It's almost like they got a universal talking point with instructions not to diverge from it.

478 #440

It's a very familiar problem from a technologist's perspective. Communism scales very poorly. The only functional examples of communist communities have fewer than 100 members. They lie somewhere between an extended family and a tribe.

Above that level, normal biological behavior demands that subgroups or individual seek favorable conditions for themselves and their offspring. The communists claimed to embrace Darwinian theory when they required everyone to behave in direct violation of it.

479 Thats the rub. To people like me, we don't see any will power by the GOP to fix it at all. The GOP has held the purse strings for the last 18 months yet the spending keeps on going.

Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 12:29 AM (kPe9l)

The GOP only controls one chamber of the legislature, the Dems the other. If the GOP controlled the Senate, then they could set the agenda for the chamber, but they do not. That is why control of the Senate was a big deal in 2010.

480

Lets see the excuses are coming out. All the standard ones. We only control 1/3 of the government. Well that 1/3 is the third that has the purse strings.

 

Yet the republicans keep on giving out the money like they can just keep printing more. Oh wait they can.

 

Nevermind

 

481 wasn't a long time ago outside of maybe a post here and there which then everyone bitched about. Used to be one of the only typically non-political threads that didn't happen on the weekends Posted by: The Dude at April 24, 2012 12:37 AM (M8yfa) I remember it differently. I recall many ONTs that were pretty much all politics, and others that were dominated by guns and cars and music. I have a weak interest in those things. Should I have protested?

482 voting for anyone is pointless, so start preparing your survival bunker/training your covert revolutionary cell now. That's the essence of it, no?
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Not in my case.

There is still a viable political solution, if its success is unlikely. The problem is Romney is not part of that solution, and in fact precludes it.

483 the very real fallout of Romney losing preciously because the right abandoned him might have a positive effect on them. It certainly sets their incentives to get serious in a way nothing else will.

The old you win by losing argument. 

Unless we can have veto proof majorities in both houses (isn't going to happen), I just can't see how we're better off with Obama wielding a veto pen. 

484 501 eesh, about 4 or maybe 5 years ago is when the ONT's tone really changed
Has there even been an ONT for 5 years? I found this place in about 2009 or so, and it seemed to be a relatively new thing then
Posted by: chemjeff at April 24, 2012 12:39 AM (7FadD)

Yes because even as a fetal post teh ONT still sucked.
It's been declining for 3 straight years. And always will be!

Because there's just so much under-performance space to explore and we're just the morons to do it.

485 Some holdouts sound like someone who can't figure out why he's alone just because he won't settle for the girl next door when he really honestly believes he can get Christina Hendricks to go out with him

486 Keyboard revolutionary? LOLzer
A Battery 1/18th FA Aug 83 to Oct 95. HQ/HHC 516 Military Police Bn. Sep 2001 sept 2007 Two tours in downtown baghdad back before the surge. Some fun there eh?

Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 12:37 AM (kPe9l)

 

A bunch of us  on this blog served in wars, don't pull that shit.

487 Mind-boggling threats of genocide against Christian South Sudan by the jihadi President of Sudan, Bashir, at a Nuremberg-style war rally--link at my nic.

488 others that were dominated by guns and cars and music. I have a weak interest in those things. Should I have protested?

Posted by: eman at April 24, 2012 12:40 AM

So you can't tell me if the clips for my M1 Garand should be stacked with the topbullet on the uper left (viewed from behind)?

The TDC timing for my 69' Camaro?

Are the Cras still Hip?

489

I am not a revolutionary. Just a student of history. Had there been this many outlets of entertainment back in 1775 we likely would still be servants of the British Crown instead of servants to federal government in D.C.

490

Cars

I thought I reviewed that

491 Unless we can have veto proof majorities in both houses (isn't going to happen), I just can't see how we're better off with Obama wielding a veto pen.
Posted by: someone
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Will also wield a Supreme Court nomination or two. The mind reels.

492 Wise words from a fellow Moron a few months back;

2008: "We need a Carter to get another Reagan"

2012: "Oh shit, we forgot to get another Reagan"

493 Cars I thought I reviewed that The movies? They're overrated, .

494
The GOP only controls one chamber of the legislature, the Dems the other.
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Which according to the Constitution is sufficient to stop any spending they don't want.

It is a lack of guts, not political power.

495 A bunch ofus on this blog served in wars, don't pull that shit.

Posted by: robtr at April 24, 2012 12:43 AM (MtwBb)

 

Keyboard revolutionary was meant as an insult. I did not insult anyone. Nor do I plan to.

496 I am not a revolutionary. Just a student of history. Had there been this many outlets of entertainment back in 1775 we likely would still be servants of the British Crown instead of servants to federal government in D.C. Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 12:45 AM (kPe9l) What do you suggest we do?

497 Ummm, if you don't like what's being talked about on the ONT, and can't scroll on by those posts and read/post something you want to talk about, maybe you should call it a night and move on to something else.

It's the freekin' ONT.  People post what's on their mind. 

498 It is a lack of guts, not political power. Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 12:46 AM (3aXbg) And how will we fix that in one move?

499 However, the very real fallout of Romney losing preciously because the right abandoned him might have a positive effect on them. It certainly sets their incentives to get serious in a way nothing else will.

Not really.  I understand your point and sympathize (I hate the idea of voting for Mittens) but his losing will have no good effects at all.  The GOP are spineless and 2012 is the last vote of mine they're getting, but they're getting it in 2012.

Personally, I'd like to vote Mittens in and impeach and toss his ass out the second he looks askance at anything.  But America HAS to get past 2012, if it is to have any chance, at all.  It doesn't have much, anyway, but 2012 is a truly historic election.  America's fate could be sealed by it.  Badly.

500 - commit national suicide
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Do you prefer your hemlock cocktail in Orangbama or NEW Romneyberry flavor?

501 Yet the republicans keep on giving out the money like they can just keep printing more. Oh wait they can.

Nevermind

Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 12:40 AM (kPe9l)

 

Are you new to this country? We've been running without a budget for the last 3 years which is against the constitution. The only thing the republicans could have done and they came close was to shut the fucking place down, turn out the lights and go home.

 

Do you know what happens then?  i don't'.

502 Here ye, Here ye

Constance Feelgoode has sharpe elbowes !!

I woulde do a week in the stockes to hit that!

503 Do you prefer your hemlock cocktail in Orangbama or NEW Romneyberry flavor?

Posted by: 18-1

 

Which one has the crushed bugs for color again?

504 Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 12:49 AM (3aXbg) Once again, Mitt can not stop the collapse. No one should think he can. We are not voting for him because we think he can stop the collapse. Is that clear to you?

505 And how will we fix that in one move?

Deny the #1 Republican Gutless Wonder office and make it clear he lost because he would not address the elephant in the room.

Certainly working to give him the office he craves...in return for nothing...will not change the way the party leadership sees their relationship with the electorate.

506 Collapse isn't something coming in a generation. It will be by the end of this decade under a moderate just as much as a liberal. Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 12:25 AM (3aXbg) So you foresee that our nation is headed for a cliff, and has to choose a pilot between a one-eyed, stupid man......and someone blind in both eyes, idiotic, brainwashed, and blindfolded. And you prefer to suck your thumb because a capable, experienced pilot isn't available. O-kay, then..... (backs away slowly)

507

kdabear, They were all waxing on Shrimp's story but your's brought a tear to my eye.

 

I took a train home once...

508 Deny the #1 Republican Gutless Wonder office and make it clear he lost because he would not address the elephant in the room. Certainly working to give him the office he craves...in return for nothing...will not change the way the party leadership sees their relationship with the electorate. Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 12:52 AM (3aXbg) And after that?

509 The ONT used to be fun though, even Bl*zer's metldown. Though as I can now count the people I actually like in the ONT on a single hand, I have to give it to some of the old ONT posters as they really knew when this thing was going tits up and bailed

Posted by: The Dude at April 24, 2012 12:34 AM (M8yfa)

Posters have come and gone. The leftovers from about 4 years ago can probably be counted on one hand, preferably the non fapping hand.

510 We are not voting for him because we think he can stop the collapse.
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So why does it matter to you if the president under whom we collapse has an R or a D by his name?

511 The only thing the republicans could have done and they came close was to shut the fucking place down, turn out the lights and go home.

Actually, they couldn't.  But they could make Barky and the dems decide to shut stuff down.  And the GOP should have done this.  Several times, if necessary.  They ate the pooch on this one ... from the day after the 2010 elections, all through 2011.  It was excruciating.

But they still have me as a hostage vote for 2012.  After that ... I have no use for them, at all.

512 Overnight OPEN Thread

That means you can pretty well discuss anything, the no politics is an informal courtesy from politics fatigue from those who go through the daytime crowd

Discussions usually aren't stopped by request, they die of neglect and disinterest

513 Which according to the Constitution is sufficient to stop any spending they don't want.

It is a lack of guts, not political power.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 12:46 AM (3aXbg)

 

No it's not. They can pass a budget, if it doesn't pass the senate and the dog eater doesn't sign  it it's worthless. The only other option is to stop ALL the spending, and even then the president can spend everything that comes into the treasury as he pleases. The constitution doesn't make the house a dictater.

514 THE upcoming election is a 'vote against' election. It's about who we're voting Against.



Obama's a disaster. We gotta get him OUT of the White House. So in  November, you vote AGAINST him.

515 What do you suggest we do?

Posted by: eman at April 24, 2012 12:47 AM (YrBvI)

 

Do what your conscious tells you to do. That is for each idividual to make for themselves. Personally I feel damned if I do and damned if I don't. Mostly I just want to throw out the fact that all we are really doing is making the mess worse.

 

Who do you want to clean it up. Yourself or yor children or thier children....?

516

about 4 or maybe 5 years ago is when the ONT's tone really changed

 

That's because, at least in 2006, up to 2007, politics weren't as extentially threatening as today; nothing was. Bart and Rosetta were the focus of "comments". Allahpundit commented here. JackM wrote epic poetry. WP was banned and un-banned.  ..... JEF was unknown.

And in 2007, Larches Sojnnoh OD'd on Cheetos, and banned most of the blogosphere. An historical event happened: as a result of this bad trip, a self-made and very influential blog, that had brought down a network, did an ongoing face plant into concrete. Humor ensues, to this day.

517 So why does it matter to you if the president under whom we collapse has an R or a D by his name? Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 12:53 AM (3aXbg) Because he, Mitt, can change the nature of the collapse and thereby the nature of the recovery.

518 Do you prefer your hemlock cocktail in Orangbama or NEW Romneyberry flavor?
Posted by: 18-1
---------------------

Flavor is irrelevant. Dosage is the issue. I can't believe I even have to say this.

519 And after that?

***

Keep working on congress. Make a serious threat against Boehner and the rest to run conservatives against them if they even think of collaborating with Obama.

One of the advantage of working with members of the House is that they are up for re-election every 2 years.

520 I did not insult anyone.


No, you did.


You will side with your comfort and security and you will pay with the coin of other peoples freedom.


Not name calling, but it is insulting.


But, do continue. We will all be better off for heeding your words.

521

I think the Banished of Chuckles Clan started showing up in 2009 too.....

But not OE.....

I miss the peanuts....

522 Romney buys us time to get that as yet unknown and possibly mythical Reagan II

The SCOAMF wins, there won't be any great conservative awakening in the American people, if they haven't grasped the damage of this clown now, they're not going to.

523 So why does it matter to you if the president under whom we collapse has an R or a D by his name?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 12:53 AM (3aXbg)

I'd like someone who likes this nation and has half a brain at the helm if collapse is to come.  That's a pretty easy one.  And the fascist dictator wannabe who is more than dangerous enough to my liberties without a collapse would not be at the top of my list for WITH a collapse.

524 My favorite part of this argument is the conservatives that feel entitled.

"I am entitled to the perfect candidate."  But I never run for anything myself.

"I would volunteer and work tirelessly for a good candidate."  But I'm really busy right now.

"I gave money tho -- almost $150 spread over the last 3 elections."  But I know I care more than you.

Conservative entitlement.

525 Flavor is irrelevant. Dosage is the issue. I can't believe I even have to say this.
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Ah yes, do you want enough to kill 10 United Stateses or just 5? If the latter, Romneyberry is the right choice for you.

526 KZnextzone: OE serves peanuts at T9

527 Hello everyone, sorry we were offline for so long. We had a problem with the internet. My, looks like we missed quite a bit

528

Heh.

Just looked at polling data from mid-2011. Obama's OsamaBounce burnt out in three weeks, and he went back into negative territory. Accelerated drop in late summer...followed by stabilization by the OWS movement and D's getting excited...until the OWS movement became dirty, smelly and dragged on. O's numbers began declining again, all through November.

Now, if the #OWS folks decide to go "big" as they are threatening in the next few months, Romney can cut ad after ad showing them as "Obama's America".

Even the most squishy moderate grew grossed out over OWS. It has an incredibly negative approval rating. Tie the goofball protest lefties to Obama (forcing him to condemn them or distance himself from them, and risk losing some of his biggest supporters), and sink his ass like a stone.

529 Not name calling, but it is insulting.


But, do continue. We will all be better off for heeding your words.

Posted by: fluffy at April 24, 2012 12:57 AM (z9HTb)

 

Why is it insulting? Mitt signed a law banning certain types of firearms in Mass. Where is the guarentee he will not do the same on a federal level. Would that not be paying in the coin of others freedoms?

 

530 Ah, the tolerant left rears its ugly head again (h/t Weasel Zippers). Twitter Explodes With Death Threats Against Zimmerman After HeÂ’s Released On BailÂ… http://tinyurl.com/6odjndo

531 Who do you want to clean it up. Yourself or yor children or thier children....? Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 12:54 AM (kPe9l) This best done in stages. Step one: Throw out the Marxist. Step two: Increase the Conservative presence in Congress. Step three: throw out Democrats no matter how small the office. On and on. There is no single step solution. Others here can tell you that few hate Mitt more than I do. Yet I will vote for him because that is the only way I can get what I really want: Obama ousted. After I vote for Mitt I will flog myself like a Shiite zealot.

532 I took a train home once...
Posted by: KZnextzone
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I took a UFO home once.

533 They ate the pooch on this one

I meant "chewed the pooch".

534 I'd like someone who likes this nation and has half a brain at the helm if collapse is to come.
***
Collapse, by its very nature, entails the end of the ability of the federal state to maintain control.

Would it have been better, in the Soviet Union for example, if Classical liberals were put in power shortly before the polity fell?

And again, rather then just accept that collapse is coming and voting for Romney, why not try to use the few methods still left to us to avoid it?

535 Here's a bit of happy imagery news:
 
New inmates are assigned to kitchen duty for 90 days and Blagojevich has been washing dishes six days a week, the attorneys said.
 
Hey Blago, you missed a spot.

536 I agree that king putt and queen mooch need to be tossed out. What I don't agree on is that this country is going to get anything better by doing so.

537 Why is it insulting?


It implies cravenness.


Please, continue. This is edifying.

538 Hello everyone, sorry we were offline for so long. We had a problem with the internet. My, looks like we missed quite a bit

Posted by: Hummingbird at April 24, 2012 12:59 AM (R5yLq)

Ha! be happy you missed it

539 Define "collapse", and the specific mechanism by which you believe it will occur.

540 The big question on the top of the ticket in 2012 is -- do you want someone whose response to a crisis is to say "let's look at the Constitution and see what we can do about it", or "let's brainstorm on what our communist professors used to tell us while we were on drugs, and damn the Supreme Court when they call us on it"?

541 This is about score settling, isn't it 18-1?
***
Nope. Its about trying to get people to see what they are about to vote for instead of burying their heads in the sand and doing what they've always done.

Either we try something else in 2012 or we are done.

542 And again, rather then just accept that collapse is coming and voting for Romney, why not try to use the few methods still left to us to avoid it? Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:02 AM (3aXbg) Oh, I see. Your Obama vs. Super Congress scenario can stop the collapse. Well, why didn't you just say so. I'm in!

543 Make a serious threat against Boehner ....
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Oh, what does that even mean for fux sakes? Here, I've got an idea. We could all move to Ohio-8 and vote.

544 I agree that king putt and queen mooch need to be tossed out. What I don't agree on is that this country is going to get anything better by doing so.

Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 01:03 AM (kPe9l) ...................Yea, sure cuz Romney is nooooooo better than SCOAMF. Sure, keep telling yourself that.

545 do you want someone whose response to a crisis is to say "let's look at the Constitution and see what we can do about it"
***
I sure do! But people are telling me I should vote for Romney instead.

546 I took a UFO home once.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism!

 

Bed side service to your roof!

I really think you need to change it to 11%

DL anytime! My roomate has a pass now and I still have a secret Rum signal..

547 Either we try something else in 2012 or we are done.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:05 AM (3aXbg)

Boy, is your timing bad.

Getting Barky out in 2012 is the only important task.  All else are worthless without that.

548 Getting Barky out in 2012 is the only important task. All else are worthless without that.
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Beating the man does nothing.

Beating his policies is everything.

Voting for Romney gives you the former, but not the latter.

549 Whyaremypostsallstreamingtogetheritsnotliethisisalivefeedandineedtoevenaskthis..

550 I agree that king putt and queen mooch need to be tossed out. What I don't agree on is that this country is going to get anything better by doing so. Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 01:03 AM (kPe9l) It's one hell of a first step.

551 555 Hello everyone, sorry we were offline for so long. We had a problem with the internet. My, looks like we missed quite a bit Posted by: Hummingbird at April 24, 2012 12:59 AM (R5yLq) You missed a lot of posts, but not a lot of content.

552 My, looks like we missed quite a bit

Don't worry - we'll have the same conversation several times before the election - we'll travel the same path and say the same things and no one will change their mind

553 Others here can tell you that few hate Mitt more than I do. Yet I will vote for him because that is the only way I can get what I really want: Obama ousted.

After I vote for Mitt I will flog myself like a Shiite zealot.

Posted by: eman at April 24, 2012 01:01 AM (YrBvI)

 

I can attest to that. I argued with eman about Romney for at least two months.

554 why not try to use the few methods still left to us to avoid it?
Posted by: 18-1
-----------------

Aside from writing in "18-1," what are they?

555 Yeah, by helping Obama win! /sarc
***
By not voting for a candidate that will continue to spend $4T a year, or more, when we are broke.

556 Aside from writing in "18-1," what are they?
***
See above.

557 >Nope. Its about trying to get people to see what they are about to vote for instead of burying their heads in the sand and doing what they've always done.

Either we try something else in 2012 or we are done.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:05 AM (3aXbg)

Oh man. I love it when someone is The Smartest Guy In The Room.

558 <<On the other hand allowing someone to get into the White House fraudulently severely undermines our democracy. And if preventing voter fraud leads to a few riots, well I'm okay with that. The alternative is far, far worse.>>

So much for "Country First". McCain was not only a coward, but he betrayed his country through inaction based on his cowardice. This should be bigger news. Damn McCain to his well-deserved coward's hell.

Fuck I'm pissed!

559

18-1: "Either we try something else in 2012 or we are done.

 

The only way to remove JEF from office s to elect someone else. Other than Romney, who has a chance?

 

Romney's policies might be only slightly better than JEF's, but:

 

1. Romney is unlikely to do end-runs (czars, EO, etc.) around Congress

 

2. Romney is very much more likely to work with, or at least acquiesce to, Congress.

 

The 2013, if things go as it looks like they will, will attempt to repeal Obamacare, and cut and control spending. Romney has nothing to lse by going along, and much to gain.

 

Romney starts looking like a very much better result than JEF.

560 Beating the man does nothing. Beating his policies is everything. Voting for Romney gives you the former, but not the latter. Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:07 AM (3aXbg) Your alternative scenario is the political equivalent of dreaming up how your favorite movie star will take you to the prom. It took decades to fuck up the USA this bad and it will take decades to reverse it. Scaring Boner ain't gonna cut it.

561 Whyaremypostsallstreamingtogetheritsnotliethisisalivefeedandineedtoevenaskthis.. Posted by: KZnextzone
--------------

Caaaaareful. If you keep that up we'll have to scroll so far left and right that we'll fall into some sort of eternal loop in the space-time continuum. Only way to escape is by shooting a clock while simultaneously staring through the bottom of a half-empty gin bottle.

562 Good evening. Are we talking politics? Reagan a marxist? Well, compared to me I suppose. Shit, compared to me Barry Goldwater was a pinko commie symp. Hell, none of you mofos pass my smell test. Commie faggots, the lot of ya! But I believe you all can be reformed. Now, class, pull out your copies of Ayn Rand's Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal and turn to page 76.

563 Oh, I see. Your Obama vs. Super Congress scenario can stop the collapse.
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The primary problem is spending.

If even just the House is willing to put a stop to it, it can be done.

The problem then is how to get a majority in the House to do what needs to be done.

Giving Romney the keys to White House when he is promising to not seriously change DC is not an answer to the problem.

564 Can't you Skype the wake? Save the grand for beer is what the Hopper would do.

565 Okay rather than go round and round for another hour let's just cut to the chase and stipulate that:

1) GMB loves America and the Constitution more than any of us. We are unworthy.
2) 18-1 has far more sacred conservative honor than we do. We are mere ideological dilettantes.

Okay then - see how easy that was.
I figure we saved ourselves almost 48 minutes of pointless commentary that can be more properly used to rank Godzilla films and famous Skinemax boobehs.

566 It took decades to fuck up the USA this bad and it will take decades to reverse it.
***
Then we are already doomed and just arguing about whether the last President on the list should have presidential hair or not.

567 We had four years of the SCOAMF and another four years isn't going to "wake up" America either. Stop dreaming that because it isn't going to happen.

For all the talk of the need for total entitlement reform, it just isn't going to happen. You need to be in office to enact the reforms, and anyone who seriously enacts them will be voted out by those who want those entitlements. With the Boomers reaching retirement age, that's not going to happen. Deal with what is, not what you want it to be.

We're going to have to learn the hard way rather than from Europe's example of what happens when the trough is empty. An implosion is the only thing that can fix it, and then it gets dicey as there will be just as many, possibly more people who heed the disciples of Karl Marx rather than Adam Smith

568 maybe we could get the paultards to kick in a case or two, but i doubt it.

569 See above.
Posted by: 18-1
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Oh. You mean we all move to Ohio-8 and vote?

570 Let's just say, arguendo, that the House can't stop spending because of the THREAT of veto.....so, how are things not improved by removing that threat and putting it right back on the ball-less catamites who keep hiking the debt limit?

571 I figure we saved ourselves almost 48 minutes that can be more properly used to rank Godzilla films and famous Skinemax boobehs. Shannon Tweed, hands down. .

572

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 11% more cynicism! at April 24, 2012 01:12 AM

 

Gin is not an alcohol

 

It is a drug...

573 people have been predicting "the end" of the republic since the ink on the Constitution was still wet. Guess what?

574 Rare video of Cthulhu on a cruise...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfuOn3rxdy8

575 Look Romney was my like my 6th choice mmmkay. But saying he's no different than Obama is like saying there's no difference between Christina Hendricks and Rosie Odonnel. You can say it all you want, but you look like a moron doing so.

576

Gettin it out of my system. Mostly I just lurk. Can't remember the last time I posted this much.

 

President Mitt already talking about taking a vacation in France? LOL

577 #581 I've read through quite a bit of it. I understand why people might not like voting for Romney. Like many of you I don't think he will do enough as President to get spending under control. The alternative is worse. It will be four more years of Obama. Four years where he won't be worried about getting re-elected. Four years where all of his friends and supporters will convince him he has a mandate. I find that a lot scarier than Romney.

578 >Okay then - see how easy that was.
I figure we saved ourselves almost 48 minutes that can be more properly used to rank Godzilla films and famous Skinemax boobehs.

Posted by: Mætenloch at April 24, 2012 01:13 AM (+B3Nr)

cinemax was great  back in the pre-Brazilian days

579 It took decades to fuck up the USA this bad and it will take decades to reverse it.


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Then we are already doomed and just arguing about whether the last President on the list should have presidential hair or not.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:13 AM (3aXbg)

 

Sounds like you need to take your ball and go home

580 hopefully, they'll do just that...

581 Only way to escape is by shooting a clock while simultaneously staring through the bottom of a half-empty gin bottle. Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 24, 2012 01:12 AM (yYpN2) That only works if you've filed the wide blade off at the plug and plugged your toaster in backwards.

582 18-1 has far more sacred conservative honor than we do. We are mere ideological dilettantes.
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No.

You refuse to think through what really happens if Romney wins the election because it is "unthinkable". I'm not letting that stop me.

There will be no magic in a Romney win.

He would be what he has always been and he will do the same sort of things that he has always done. And we will be just as boned as if the JUG was still president.

583
Which according to the Constitution is sufficient to stop any spending they don't want.

It is a lack of guts, not political power.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 12:46 AM (3aXbg)

Then vent your bile on Boner instead of being a Dickhead.

I dislike Romney as much as anyone here, but my No. 1 objective is to get rid of Obama.

P.S. -- do you think Brietbart was an asshole?

584 Collapse, by its very nature, entails the end of the ability of the federal state to maintain control.

Would it have been better, in the Soviet Union for example, if Classical liberals were put in power shortly before the polity fell?

And again, rather then just accept that collapse is coming and voting for Romney, why not try to use the few methods still left to us to avoid it?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:02 AM (3aXbg)

You do know that every time some place has collapsed, it usually doesn't result in a place that most citizens want to live in. Usually people like Obama end up in power, kind of like FDR, but on steroids.

585

You project much meatenloch? Sounds to me like you got a one person pity party going there. I don't agree with everything you believe so its ok to be insulting?

 

586 cinemax was great back in the pre-Brazilian days Posted by: Jones in CO at April 24, 2012 01:15 AM (8sCoq) When it was all imported softcore europorn. Those were the days.

587 Then we are already doomed and just arguing about whether the last President on the list should have presidential hair or not. Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:13 AM (3aXbg) Seriously, that is what you take from all of this? You want a fantasy to come true. Somehow, voting in just the right way this year can prevent the collapse, and any deviation from that formula is stupid and the work of cowards and fools.

588 Giving Romney the keys to White House when he is promising to not seriously change DC is not an answer to the problem.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:12 AM (3aXbg)

 

You still don't understand do you. The congress can't stop spending, they can stop borrowing and they can make a symbolic act to shut down the govenrment. If they do that the president has full control of all treasury reciepts. He can do whatever he wants with them. The president has full discresion at that point to keep the parts of government running that he deems neccesary with the money he has to work with.

 

 

589 So, who wants to see a 22 year old picture of Madonna nude?

590 Yeah, I get what you're all saying. I'm really leaning towards just telling BB to take my easy way out and be done with it, but man is she ever pissed at this guy, and the satisfaction of riding ourselves of the douche would result in my permanent shadenboner.
----

I haven't read all the comments yet, so maybe this has been suggested.

There's more than one way to skin a cat.  Find another way.  You and BB both seem pretty smart.

591 What's all this then?

592 606 Rare video of Cthulhu on a cruise... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfuOn3rxdy8 Posted by: Robert at April 24, 2012 01:15 AM (4ixH5) Cousin Ernie!!!!!!

593 But saying he's no different than Obama is like saying there's no difference between Christina Hendricks and Rosie Odonnel
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Oh, there is plenty of difference between the two.

The problem is when it comes to their ability to get you to survive radical and invasive surgery it isn't going to matter.

Unless you are merely choosing to die comfortably lying on Ms Hendrick's ample bossum? 

594 President Mitt already talking about taking a vacation in France? LOL
Posted by: GMB
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Yes, because Michelle will keep calling up the White House and saying "I accidentally left my earrings there, can I go get them?" So it'll be better if he just crates up the stuff she forgot and drops it off at the Henry Cinque Hotel or wherever the Obamas go for exile.

595 So, who wants to see a 22 year old picture of Madonna nude?

Make it Belinda Carlisle and you've got a deal!

596 is now the time when someone says boobies?

597 You want a fantasy to come true.
***
You are the one arguing that the collapse is a'coming so let's just Romney into it.

598 My former home of California is going tits up and most of them know it. Are they clamoring for Tom McClintock? Nope. They believe that if they just get rid of that pesky Prop 13 then manna will fall from Newport Beach and Sausalito, or another deux ex machina of a Google or Facebook startup will feed the masses.

What they know but won't say is that as long as California is "too big to fail", there won't be any financial Armageddon because Washington will bail them out.

599 My feeling about McCain for a long time has been that he had all the fight beaten out of him as a POW. That's quite understandable, but it rendered him unfit for the Presidency. This new revelation just kinda fits with that scenario.

It's very hard for me to assign to him any real cowardice or dishonor. I just think that he didn't come back quite right.

600 621 So, who wants to see a 22 year old picture of Madonna nude? No thanks. I've already seen "Body of Evidence" and I think it was the only Skinemax film that I feel asleep to not due to exhaustion, .

601 Posted by: Hummingbird at April 24, 2012 01:15 AM (R5yLq) Funny thing is, I supported Romney when the establishment alternative was McCain.

602 You do know that every time some place has collapsed, it usually doesn't result in a place that most citizens want to live in. Usually people like Obama end up in power, kind of like FDR, but on steroids.
***
So why are you endorsing that we accept the collapse is coming and try to vote in Romney?

603 Make it Belinda Carlisle and you've got a deal! Posted by: Waterhouse at April 24, 2012 01:21 AM (Znhm9) Give me a minute.

604

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 11% more cynicism! at April 24, 2012 01:21 AM

 

And that's why it needs to be 11........

605 cinemax was great back in the pre-Brazilian days Posted by: Jones in CO at April 24, 2012 01:15 AM (8sCoq) Distorted porn channels were da bomb. "Hey, I just saw something! I think it was an boob."

606 603 I figure we saved ourselves almost 48 minutes that can be more properly used to rank Godzilla films and famous Skinemax boobehs.

Shannon Tweed, hands down. .

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 24, 2012 01:14 AM (RvlzX)

Shannon Whirrey had the most fantabulous boobs in the history of Skinemax, you stand corrected.

607 Then vent your bile on Boner instead of being a Dickhead.
***
Because if Romney wins it tells Boehner to keep doing what he is doing.

Reward bad behavior, for example by giving Romney the White House, and you'll only get more of it.

608 Wow, Belinda Carlisle really did pose nude.

Can't get away with it on the ONT.

Just go to Google and do an image search of Belinda Carlisle Nude.

609 Just give up folks. 18-1 isn't ever going to vote for Romney, so he will help Obama win and pretend like he is doing the country some huge favor.
***
I won't give up on America as easily as you will.

610 There will be no magic in a Romney win.
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Of course there won't. There will only be a boring empirically quantifiable improvement over an Obama win.

611 you already have...

612 You are the one arguing that the collapse is a'coming so let's just Romney into it. Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:22 AM (3aXbg) Not quite. Perhaps a rereading exercise would help you grasp these subjects better.

613 More than likely Mitt will get my vote. Here in Illinois i will have to 600k times for it to have any effect.

614

President Mitt already talking about taking a vacation in France? LOL

Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 01:15 AM (kPe9l)

 

Jeebus, I have vacationed in France, my forefathers settled in straussburg after leaving switzerland, straussburg has some of the most beautiful women in the world in my opinion.

 

Does enjoying a vacation in France make you un american or something?

615 So instead you'll hand them to Obama. Brilliant.
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I'll give them to neither.

I would strongly suggest you stop accepting collapse as an inevitably.

616 aww poor guy, he's suffocating

Posted by: chemjeff at April 24, 2012 01:23 AM (7FadD)

He got back into the water.  Escaped to plot against mankind another day.

617 Geez, this discussion is moving so fast I can't keep up with it.

618 Just go to Google and do an image search of Belinda Carlisle Nude.

I refuse to acknowledge that I already knew such things existed.

619

Make it Belinda Carlisle and you've got a deal!

 

'Circles in the Sand!'

620 Biden 2016

621 More than likely Mitt will get my vote.

Most of us have had to travel through the stages of primary election grief to get to "acceptance" 

622 Not quite. Perhaps a rereading exercise would help you grasp these subjects better.
***
Oh, I can read what you can write. I just wish you could actually think about what you are apparently going to do this November.

To quote a recent movie, "You don't have to do this"

623 GMB & 18-1 drifting away on their little three square foot iceberg... good riddance.

624 Woman's torso shipped to wholeseller. http://tinyurl.com/7uemy97 But if they're selling torsos they're not really selling the whole thing, are they?

625 aww poor guy, he's suffocating Posted by: chemjeff at April 24, 2012 01:23 AM (7FadD) Cut Cousin Ernie some slack -- there have been many cases in public aquaria where specimens in tanks adjacent to the octopus exhibit started disappearing.....and where cameras documented the octopi going "cross-country" to pick up the tasty snacks....then going "cross-country" again to not get caught.

626

Whoah....I meant

 

Biden / Franken  2012

627 Pardon me, but just because Romney isn't Gov. Rush Limbaugh doesn't mean he's "no different from Obama"

Kind of reminds me of that line in Christmas Vacation where Clark asks Catherine why Eddie hasn't found work in 7 years;

"He's holding out for a middle management position"

628

629 Or Ginger or Mary Ann?  Or Boobehs or Badonkadonks?  Or Paper or Plastic? 

630 Orrale!

631 I remember when I picked up the paper to read that the Yugoslav executive council had barred the next President, a Croat, from taking office. (The executive council had a representative from each republic and semi-autonomous province, the chair of President rotating amongst them. But Serbia had re-annexed the provinces of Kosovo and Vojvodina; with those votes and with that of their close ally Montenegro they blocked anything they pleased.) I lamented this to the friend I was with. She, a Libertarian (capital letter, could be all caps like as not) quipped something on the order of "oh, then they'll be happier then." And I had a strong urge to bonk her head with the newspaper. She spoke according to her lights, but I knew in my pith of my marrowbones what was going to come. I smelt the blood in the air.

The guy assumed his presidency eventually, and was completely ineffectual, but my reaction was never about him, or even the Presidency. It was the flouting and flimflamming of procedure that signaled the future to me. Fuck one thing over and you soon believe you can fuck anything over, and by God that's what happened with Serbia. The dissolution of Yugoslavia was inevitable, Croatia and Slovenia had already voted to secede, but there are ways and ways and this was going to be the worse way.

Obama has already been fucking things over. Obama believes he can fuck anything over...after he's won one "last election".

And here I sit with an oddly similar ache in the marrowbones while others speak according to their political tracts.

Mind you, I don't think it would be civil war over here. But that's the best I can say. And with that I'm off to try and jolly myself up with some mindless Tory-opiate TV.

632 Ohhh, sooooooh clooooose!

633 that isn't how it works, and you know it - you continue under this mythical fantasy that not helping Romney has no bearing on Obama. that is false.
***
You can either vote for Romney, and collapse, or vote against him.

Why do you insist on doing the former?

634 Wait!

635 666

636 fuck

637 Yes, Shannon Whirry

638 Most of us have had to travel through the stages of primary election grief to get to "acceptance"

Posted by: someone at April 24, 2012 01:29 AM (bqjJT)

 

Not me, I was origanlly for Perry but he turned out to be, well I still am not sure what he turned out to be. After that I was pretty much Mitt.

639 Just give up folks. 18-1 isn't ever going to vote for Romney, so he will help Obama win and pretend like he is doing the country some huge favor.
Posted by: chemjeff
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I think 18-1 has an apocalyptic streak. I accept it and resolve to subject him to something less.

640 Pardon me, but just because Romney isn't Gov. Rush Limbaugh doesn't mean he's "no different from Obama"
***
In all the ways that will actually matter come 2013 there is no difference. The numbers don't lie no matter how much we can all wish they were different.

641 Has there been a Cthulhu movie?

If not, why not?

/glares in Hollywood's direction

642

Drifting away? Not really. I could keep posting about all of Mitts faults if you want me too.

 

643 18-1, do you have the delusion that your single vote is going to prevent either Obama or Romney from being sworn in next January?  Because that is the choice.  Option 1 or Option 2.

644 rank Godzilla films

Posted by: Mætenloch at April 24, 2012 01:13 AM (+B3Nr)


Destroy All Monsters
Godzilla
Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla
Godzilla vs King Ghidorah
Godzilla vs Mothra (sucker for the twins)
Godzilla vs Hedorah
Godzilla vs Biollante
Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla 2
Invasion of the Astro Monster
All Monsters Attack
Ghidorah
Return of Godzilla
Godzilla vs Gigan
Godzilla vs Destroyha
Godzilla Raids Again
Terror of Mechagodzilla
Godzilla vs Megalon
Godzilla vs Space Godzilla
Monsters All-Out Attack
Final Wars
King Kong vs Godzilla
Godzilla 2K
Godzilla vs Megaguirus
Tokyo SOS
Godzilla vs the Sea Monster
Son of Godzilla

645

Wow, that's a lot of lurkers, kinda like watching the bats fly out of Carlsbad

 

Not the tennis place Carlsbad

646 GMB & 18-1 drifting away on their little three square foot iceberg... good riddance.
***
Well, I hope you are whistling a happy tune as you vote away your sacred inheritance.

647 Has there been a Cthulhu movie?

If not, why not?



The Call of Chtullu, it's fucking awesome.

648 >Has there been a Cthulhu movie?

If not, why not?




The CGI budget would be astronomical?

649 Most of us have had to travel through the stages of primary election grief to get to "acceptance"
Posted by: someone
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See that's the trouble. 18-1 wants to move us to Stage Six: death.

650 677 Has there been a Cthulhu movie? If not, why not? /glares in Hollywood's direction Posted by: Waterhouse at April 24, 2012 01:32 AM (Znhm9) There have been several.

651 do you have the delusion that your single vote is going to prevent either Obama or Romney from being sworn in next January?
***
Nope. My individual vote will almost certainly not make a difference in the final vote count.

I can only hope a sufficient number of conservatives collectively  pull their heads out of the sand.

There's still time.

652 Not me, I was origanlly for Perry but he turned out to be, well I still am not sure what he turned out to be. After that I was pretty much Mitt.

Yeah, well I'm still greiving Teh Fred.  Actually I wanted Perry as well.  then got very ambivalent finally accepting Romney as the best chance for ABO.

653 you know what's worse than being wrong on the ONT?

being a bore

654
See that's the trouble. 18-1 wants to move us to Stage Six: death.
***
Actually, I'm trying to talk you down from the ledge.

655 Oh, I can read what you can write. I just wish you could actually think about what you are apparently going to do this November. To quote a recent movie, "You don't have to do this" Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:29 AM (3aXbg) You are wasting my time with your ranting fantasies about the one true way to save America. You have spent the last hour fiercely learning nothing and courageously spewing nonsense.

656 And that's why it needs to be 11........
Posted by: KZnextzone
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I had to randomly declare 10% and hold the line. If I let it go, it would soon get to 101% cynicism and then I'd be in that space-time thingy again.

657 OK 18-1, who is the Great Conservative Hope who is Not Romney and Not Obama who'll mesmerize the American people before November 7 ?

I looked through Nostradamus' Quatrains and can't interpret who it will be

658 I've been trying to piece together what the argument is on the fly, so if I restate stuff already said or seem otherwise less than brilliant, forgive me.

I can empathize with the way 18-1 feels, and I suspect that most here can. I was not for Romney in this election, because (as I told my Romney-supporting brother several months ago) I think we need someone who is at least going to stomp hard on the brakes, if not manage a full U-turn, and that with Romney we're likely to get a more well-managed and orderly plunge off the cliff.

But our system is based upon making the better of two choices, and there is absolutely no doubt that Romney is the better choice. Thus, as a responsible citizen I am going to support Romney without further public expression of reservations, and pray for Providence to lend a hand.

659 Not me, I was origanlly for Perry but he turned out to be, well I still am not sure what he turned out to be. After that I was pretty much Mitt. Posted by: robtr at April 24, 2012 01:32 AM (MtwBb) Perry has been pretty good for Texas. There's no doubt, he's been pretty good. Problem was he was also a better national candidate on paper than in reality. Alas, through a series of unfortunate events and unforced errors he just sort of blew it.

660 You have spent the last hour fiercely learning nothing and courageously spewing nonsense.
***
I'm not the one arguing that we can continue to spend $4T forever.

Conservatives are supposed to be able to face hard truths and you are furiously pounding your head into the sand. Why?

661 Again my question is, "who is the great conservative messiah that will lead us from the impending doom"?

662

18-1 think of it this way. Anne Romney would most likely make an excellent First Lady. Thats how I am rationalizing it.

Anybody but queen mooch!!

663 ...and throw the election to Obama. Brilliant.
***
Actually, if conservatives were a united front the Republican primary would not be the end of the story on whether we could actually get a conservative into the White House.

But too many are afraid to actually try something new even though  they've see what they've been doing fail completely repeatedly.

664 man that's a lot of Godzilla movies
I think I should have a Godzilla movie marathon some weekend

Posted by: chemjeff at April 24, 2012 01:35 AM (7FadD)

even as a hardcore Kaiju fan, that is a lot of Godzilla and I couldn't do that in a week even if I could find my complete Godzilla collection.

665 683 GMB 18-1 drifting away on their little three square foot iceberg... good riddance. *** Well, I hope you are whistling a happy tune as you vote away your sacred inheritance. Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:33 AM (3aXbg) >>> Pacifism. Pacifism is objectively pro-Fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, ‘he that is not with me is against me’. The idea that you can somehow remain aloof from and superior to the struggle, while living on food which British sailors have to risk their lives to bring you, is a bourgeois illusion bred of money and security. Mr Savage remarks that ‘according to this type of reasoning, a German or Japanese pacifist would be “objectively pro-British”.’ But of course he would be! That is why pacifist activities are not permitted in those countries (in both of them the penalty is, or can be, beheading) while both the Germans and the Japanese do all they can to encourage the spread of pacifism in British and American territories. The Germans even run a spurious ‘freedom’ station which serves out pacifist propaganda indistinguishable from that of the P.P.U. They would stimulate pacifism in Russia as well if they could, but in that case they have tougher babies to deal with. In so far as it takes effect at all, pacifist propaganda can only be effective against those countries where a certain amount of freedom of speech is still permitted; in other words it is helpful to totalitarianism. http://orwell.ru/library/articles/pacifism/english/e_patw

666 do you have the delusion that your single vote is going to prevent either Obama or Romney from being sworn in next January?
***
Nope....

...I can only hope a sufficient number of conservatives collectively pull their heads out of the sand. There's still time.
---

I have to head to bed, so no time to explore this inconsistent thinking. 

Sweet dreams to all!

667

Posted by: The Dude at April 24, 2012 01:33 AM (M8yfa)

Never seen Destroy All Monsters.  I should...I should probably turn in my nerd card.

I think I should have a Godzilla movie marathon some weekend

Posted by: chemjeff at April 24, 2012 01:35 AM (7FadD)

Party at Jefe's!

668 Strawman alert! NOBODY is arguing this.
***
A vote for Romney is a vote for $4T a year, or more.

Why can't you face that?

669 But saying he's no different than Obama is like saying there's no difference between Christina Hendricks and Rosie Odonnel
***
Oh, there is plenty of difference between the two.

The problem is when it comes to their ability to get you to survive radical and invasive surgery it isn't going to matter.

Unless you are merely choosing to die comfortably lying on Ms Hendrick's ample bossum?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:21 AM (3aXbg) ....................................................You say that like it's a bad thing. Seriously though, There are so many glaring differences though. I'm not asking him to do surgery, But if they were both doctors would I want the guy who I know without a doubt will fuck it up royally or the guy who might give me a chance to fight another day?

670

When you stare into the abyss and it stares back at you

 

You will do what you need to do!

 

All the way Jim McKay !

 

 

671 Actually, I would have done better simply to say, "What Cthulhu said."

672 Strawman alert! NOBODY is arguing this.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 24, 2012 01:38 AM (7FadD)

 

I don't think it is a strawman at all. barky has set the norm at 1t$ deficits. Do you honestly think Mitt has what it takes to cut the budget down to size?

673 The Call of Chtullu, it's fucking awesome.

Alright, downloading it now.

674 Never seen Destroy All Monsters. I should...I should probably turn in my nerd card.

Posted by: Robert at April 24, 2012 01:40 AM (4ixH5)

no real story, just one giant battle royal and it's so fucking good, just make sure to watch the companion film All Monsters Attack afterwards

675 689 do you have the delusion that your single vote is going to prevent either Obama or Romney from being sworn in next January? *** Nope. My individual vote will almost certainly not make a difference in the final vote count. I can only hope a sufficient number of conservatives collectively pull their heads out of the sand. There's still time. Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:35 AM (3aXbg) Jack the Ripper or Satan.....decide. And I don't think Romney is all that analogous to ol' Leather Apron.

676 Pacifism is objectively pro-Fascist.
***
Indeed, so why are so many conservatives pledging to throw in the towel on the spending battle, and the Obromneycare battle, and the judges battle, etc and vote for Romney?

677 Actually, if conservatives were a united front the Republican primary would not be the end of the story on whether we could actually get a conservative into the White House.

But too many are afraid to actually try something new even though they've see what they've been doing fail completely repeatedly.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:39 AM

Who is this Magic Conservative? At least put up a name instead of a mythical Resurrection of Reagan

Just like the Perfect Woman, the Perfect Candidate is going to end up breaking your heart

678 Do you honestly think Mitt has what it takes to cut the budget down to size? Posted by: GMB

-------------------

No, but I think Rick Moranis does.

in other words, the damage of the last six decades can't be undone in one term, not by Mitt, not by anyone.

679 Alright, downloading it now.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 24, 2012 01:42 AM (Znhm9)

just be prepared for a low budget silent black and white film (it's the Lovecraft Society adapting one of their radioplays). They released a new film adapting The Whisper but I haven't seen it yet

680 Actually, I'm trying to talk you down from the ledge.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:35 AM (3aXbg)

 

No, you are trying to get us to hold your hand and jump with you. I'll pass.

681 Conservatives are supposed to be able to face hard truths and you are furiously pounding your head into the sand. Why? Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:37 AM (3aXbg) 'Cause the first hard truth is that you have two choices?

682 But if they were both doctors would I want the guy who I know without a doubt will fuck it up royally or the guy who might give me a chance to fight another day?
***
Neither Romney nor Obama is a surgeon. In fact, they both have publicly stated moral reservations to using a scapel on a budget.

Whether Romney could do a better job then Obama is immaterial because he won't do it.

683 'Cause the first hard truth is that you have two choices?
***
Not in the real world.

684
A vote for Romney is a vote for $4T a year, or more.

Why can't you face that?


Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:40 AM (3aXbg)

Easy. Because your full of shit

685 No, you are trying to get us to hold your hand and jump with you. I'll pass.
***
You don't even recognize a $30T pit as you jump into it, willingly.

686 Indeed, so why are so many conservatives pledging to throw in the towel on the spending battle, and the Obromneycare battle, and the judges battle, etc and vote for Romney? Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:44 AM (3aXbg) Because anything else -- like Pacifism -- is voting for a mythical wonderland. It ain't gonna happen, but it will further enable the evil.

687 Easy. Because your full of shit
***
Try facing reality for once, I know you've got it in you.

688 Crap, searching Godzilla on Amazon it occurs to me the last time I saw a 'Zilla movie was Godzilla 2000 back in...uh, back in 2000. Jeez, it's been a while. Sadly, Destroy All Monsters seems to have fallen out of print.

689
Because anything else -- like Pacifism -- is voting for a mythical wonderland. It ain't gonna happen, but it will further enable the evil.
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But you are advocating throwing in the towel, Pacificism. If you don't like throwing in the towel, why not use the tools at your disposal and try fighting instead?

690 726 'Cause the first hard truth is that you have two choices? *** Not in the real world. Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:47 AM (3aXbg) Your "real world" and my real world just had a hard divergence. Count me as one who ignores the troll from here.

691

The problem with that line of reasoning is will the next guy have what it takes to chop the budget down to size or will that be the most important election in history again so we have to settle for another progressive as the repub nominee.

 

A perfect conservative?  lol. That is a good one. I would settle for something mildly repulsive instead of the crap sandwiches we keep getting.

692 Now you are contradicting yourself.
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Untrue.

We need surgery on the budget.

Romney would likely pad it less then Obama.

Neither will cut it.

Not only consistent, but what we both know to be true.

693
Whether Romney could do a better job then Obama is immaterial because he won't do it.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:46 AM (3aXbg) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hey you were the one who used the analogy. But if you really feel that way. Take your ball and go home. Because we all know that Obama will react so much better to heat from Republicans with a seond term and no reelection consequences than a Republican President who gets funding, policy advice etc. from Republicans. Enjoy your kamikaze mission. Banzai.

694 That chart is BS.

695 Your "real world" and my real world just had a hard divergence. Count me as one who ignores the troll from here.
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The funny thing about ignoring reality, it will catch up with you.

And the sad thing is, it will catch up with all of us sooner then you dare consider if your path succeeds.

696 For the third time I must ask "who is our conservative messiah"?

697 You don't even recognize a $30T pit as you jump into it, willingly.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:48 AM (3aXbg)

 

No actually I do, Romney is the only candidate that has a history of turning bad things around and making them good things. No one else who ran or is running has that history.

 

Now you can refuse the facts of Romneys history and you can mock him for becoming wealthy because he was good at it but I am not going to join you in that.

 

The man has had success, none of the other assholes that ran have had that. I for one admire success. If you are a fan a failure then you have a lot of options.

698 There were wails of the cruelty of Congress when they proposed what amounted to a whopping cut of 38 billion from that 4 trillion budget.

I'll say it again. You need to be in office to make those huge cuts happen. You make those cuts, you get voted out and can't enact them.

699 If anybody is "throwing in the towel", it's you 18-1.

700 Well - I'm heading for bed and bringing out this oldie

http://tinyurl.com/2vovfg

701 A perfect conservative?lol. That is a good one. I would settle for something mildly repulsive instead of the crap sandwiches we keep getting.
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It has been almost 30 years since there was a Republican on the ballot who was willing to even try and cut the budget.

Looks like we are about to pay for that mistake within the next decade.

702 If anybody is "throwing in the towel", it's you 18-1.
***
I don't accept $4T/year as the ceiling for spending, you do. EOS

703 No actually I do, Romney is the only candidate that has a history of turning bad things around and making them good things.
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The Romney was a successful businessman has nothing to do with what he will do in office.

According to both his rhetoric and record he is not a Reagan Republican. He will not cut the budget.

704 718
Indeed, so why are so many conservatives pledging to throw in the towel on the spending battle, and the Obromneycare battle, and the judges battle, etc and vote for Romney?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:44 AM (3aXbg)


====

All your either-or choices are delightfully bizarre.  It's either a kumquat or a raccoon.  No, it's either a snowflake or a tire iron.  No wait, it's either a can of spam or a sports bra.  I get so confused. 

705

18-1. Believe me, ?I understand where you are coming from. I share most of your sentiments. I will not urge you to do anything you do not want for. Do what your consciece tells you to do.

 

I am not voting for Mitt. I will vote for Anne though.

 

 

 

706 Conservatives are supposed to be able to face hard truths and you are furiously pounding your head into the sand. Why? Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:37 AM (3aXbg) Again. You want a fantasy to come true. I expect very bad times to come, our current system to collapse, and a new system to replace it. I think Mitt can make all of these things work out better. How much better? i don't know. Who could? He certainly would be far superior to Obama. Somehow, you think your formula can prevent the financial collapse of the USA. It can't. You can't even flesh out how your Obama/Conservative Congress fantasy government will work. Your ideas are stupid and nonsensical. You can not reverse the decline of the USA in one election. No one here has said Mitt Romney is our savior yet you speak as if that is what we think. The only worthy idea you have announced here tonight is increasing the Conservative character of Congress. Do you truly believe you are the only one here that likes that idea?

707 The Romney was a successful businessman has nothing to do with what he will do in office.

According to both his rhetoric and record he is not a Reagan Republican. He will not cut the budget.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:56 AM (3aXbg)

 

I am not sure where the fuck you were in the 80's or even if you were born yet.  Here's some history for you.

 

REAGAN DID NOT CUT THE BUDGET. Should I say that a different way?

708 THOSE ARE YOUR ONLY TWO OPTIONS AT THIS POINT.
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If you are correct then neither option matters, does it?

If I am correct there is a chance.

So why are you insisting on collapse?

Again the facts of the matter:

Romney will spend at least $4T a year. This will be less then Obama.

If Romney wins, that means eight years of $4T+budgets.

If you believe that is survivable, vote for Romney.

If you don't believe that is survivable, you can't vote for Romney. Romneycare brand bandaids aren't going to make that spending tumor go away...

709 It has been almost 30 years since there was a Republican on the ballot who was willing to even try and cut the budget.

Looks like we are about to pay for that mistake within the next decade.

 Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:54 AM (3aXbg) ///////////////////////////Reagan actually increased spending by large amounts over Carter.

710 747 A perfect conservative?lol. That is a good one. I would settle for
something mildly repulsive instead of the crap sandwiches we keep
getting.
***
It has been almost 30 years since there was a Republican on the ballot who was willing to even try and cut the budget.

Looks like we are about to pay for that mistake within the next decade.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:54 AM (3aXbg)

Again I ask, who is our messiah?

711 Sadly, Destroy All Monsters seems to have fallen out of print.

Posted by: Robert at April 24, 2012 01:49 AM (4ixH5)

you can still get Tokyo Shock's dvd release but it's crap to be honest. And Classic Media didn't put out a better version before they lost the license to Criterion (which sucks as I doubt they will do much outside releasing Raids on blu-ray (though their Gojira is of their usual high quality)

712 REAGAN DID NOT CUT THE BUDGET. Should I say that a different way?
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/Scratch head

Are you reading what I am writing? And why are you making my case for me?

Reagan made the last serious effort (as a President) to cut spending...and lost.

Romney has declared repeatedly that he is not as conservative as Reagan.

So if we need to cut the budget, how can we select someone that thinks trying to cut it is extreme and wrong?

713 It has been almost 30 years since there was a Republican on the ballot who was willing to even try and cut the budget.

Looks like we are about to pay for that mistake within the next decade.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 01:54 AM

We still ran up deficits, there was a large ramp up in Defense Spending. Reagan got hammered in the 82 midterms while Volcker ran interest rates close to 20 percent to wring out inflation. If he'd had to run again in 82 he would have lost badly. Tax cuts, regulatory relief, and taming of inflation brought a rebound in time for 84

Spending still increased under Reagan, it just did so at a slower rate than it would have if Carter had been re-elected

If you still insist that a Conservative Savior is out there to rally the American people to accept the huge spending cuts, I have to conclude that you're just being obtuse.

714 Again I ask, who is our messiah?

Posted by: MrCaniac in the OBX at April 24, 2012 02:00 AM (FoNan)

 

Democrats have messiahs. This conservative has no messiah at this point in time. Even if we did, establishment repubs would destroy that person to keep thier own butts safely in thier plush dc offices.

715 Obama yet to deny eating dog. Must be true.

716 Posted by: The Dude at April 24, 2012 02:02 AM (M8yfa)

I hate crappy transfers.  There's always the Amazon Marketplace.  Used it is!

717 And I totally got a nerd boner for that Criterion Godzilla blu.

DO WANT!

718 KB, I've been trying for hours to get the name of our conservative messiah out of him, it ain't there. He just wants to bitch about Romney.

719 Holy crap, is Godzilla versus Biollante really not on DVD?

Really?

Holy shit.

That's as awesome a 'Zilla movie as I've seen.

720 I expect very bad times to come, our current system to collapse, and a new system to replace it.
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So you are committed to the idea of collapse and therefore supporting Romney. Interesting how most Romneybots argue for their man because not supporting Romney would mean a collapse under Obama.

Committing to collapse is a poor solution and in fact the worst of the one can imagine - as others have pointed out no one can see what is on the other side no matter what fantasy world you'd like to build up.
 
Anyway, if you agree Romney = collapse why not at least try something that might avert it?

721 Or Godzilla '85?

I shake my head in dismay.

722 DO WANT!

Posted by: Robert at April 24, 2012 02:05 AM (4ixH5)

spend the $25 on Amazon now or wait for B&N bi-annual 50% off Criterion in June

723 766 KB, I've been trying for hours to get the name of our conservative messiah out of him, it ain't there. He just wants to bitch about Romney.
Posted by: MrCaniac in the OBX at April 24, 2012 02:05 AM

At this point I'd start wondering if he was a concern troll, but I've seen enough of these 1500 post arguments to know that some still believe that MR CONSERVATIVE is just waiting for that right time to rescue us. I call that obtuseness
 

724 Romney has declared repeatedly that he is not as conservative as Reagan.

So if we need to cut the budget, how can we select someone that thinks trying to cut it is extreme and wrong?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 02:02 AM (3aXbg)

 

No I am not. Reagan was a good man and a good president. You wouldn't vote for him today. Reagan ran on a platform of cutting government but he had no history of doing that. He didn't in California and before that he was an actor and a union boss.

 

Romney has a history of turning things around. That's what we need now, someone who has that history.

 

You may not like his social flip flops or the fact that he is not a trained actor like Reagan was and therefor not as charismatic but he is a smart fucker who knows how to make things work.

 

He is also a good man that I beleive loves this country and wants to save it.

725 I know, let's for vote for a guy who will for sure spend us into oblivion, who will appoint liberal judges, gut the military, kiss the ass of every third world commie sympathizer, over a guy who will do none of these things and spend less! Fucking brilliant am I!!!!!

726
If you still insist that a Conservative Savior is out there to rally the American people to accept the huge spending cuts, I have to conclude that you're just being obtuse.
***
There is no such thing as a "conservative" Savior.

Either we will elect men who will stop the tide before it is too late, create sufficient incentives so that lesser men will still vote the right way, or we face collapse under the debt bomb.

Romney, Boehner, and the rest are certainly not the sort of men to lead a real spending fight, let alone "conservative" Saviors so pick - incentivize them somehow or accept collapse. And keep in mind we've only got a few years to get said incentives in place...

727 Democrats have messiahs. This conservative has no messiah at this point in time. Even if we did, establishment repubs would destroy that person to keep thier own butts safely in thier plush dc offices.

Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 02:03 AM (kPe9l)

Aaaah, the establishment puts them under their thumb. That is why you can't name the conservative that will lead us out of the morass because then the establishment like Ace will be on the warpath to destroy them.

728 Anyway, if you agree Romney = collapse why not at least try something that might avert it? I can't tell what you're arguing for, because I haven't visited all the alternate timelines, but you seem most invested in collapse. Because then you'll be right. 18-1, just get it over with and surrender. You want to help us? Surrender, leave camp. I get to eat your dog, though.

729 Anyway, if you agree Romney = collapse why not at least try something that might avert it? Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 02:06 AM (3aXbg) Obama vs. MegaCongress will not avert the collapse. Your fantasy is stupid and juvenile. The sexy movie star is not taking you to the prom. You are so clueless that you called me a Romneybot.

730 wait for BN bi-annual 50% off Criterion in June

Posted by: The Dude at April 24, 2012 02:07 AM (M8yfa)

Hello!

731 I keep wondering who Glen Beck has in mind as that Third Party Miracle Messiah. But every time I think he finally comes out with it I feel like Ralphie Parker after he decoded the secret message with his Orphan Annie Decoder Pin

732 damn, forgot Inca was playing today and I missed his games (dude lost and is now in Code B). I'll have to check out the vods later

733 Haha! Speaking of trolls, it looks as though I've been banned again at Kos! Time to re-register under a new handle.....

734 I think what 18-1 really wants is for both Romney and Obama to somehow lose. but that isn't going to happen.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 24, 2012 02:16 AM (7FadD)

too bad it can't though

735 I need to look at some Japanese gals. It helps me relax. And dismiss the stupid drivel I encounter from time to time.

736 . Reagan was a good man and a good president. You wouldn't vote for him today. Reagan ran on a platform of cutting government but he had no history of doing that.
***
Reagan advocated a consistent set of principles for decades prior to become president. In the same time frame Romney was arguing he was no conservative in his 94 election and opposed Newt's efforts to cut the budget in 95.

But it is an interesting point. In 1980 the primary issue facing the country were the Soviet Union and the collapsed economy. Part of the reason Reagan failed to cut the budget is he prioritized it below the other two objectives and correctly so. 

The debt bomb is the issue now. Romney's record on this issue is poor, and his rhetoric is just as bad.

If I was looking to run a business for me, I'd hire Romney based on his record. If I was looking for a man to cut spending I would not.

737 Haha! Speaking of trolls, it looks as though I've been banned again at Kos! Time to re-register under a new handle..... Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 24, 2012 02:17 AM (yYpN2) Naughty girl!

738 Reagan made the last serious effort (as a President) to cut spending...and lost.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 02:02 AM (3aXbg) .,.;;l,..;;ll.......... Man, not only are you a douche, you're wrong. Reagan signed the budgets idiot. If AOS was around back then you.d be saying the same shit about Reagan, You have the benefit of highinsight and history. The fact of ther matter is that You'd be smearing the same pap back then about Reagan as you are today with Mitt. I'm not suggesting Mitt is Reagan but Was Reagan better than Carter? Not if we use your methods to measure it,

739 Also being done with 18-1 and looking at other tidbits, I see that the NAACP canceled Allen West's speaking engagement because he called the Dems Commies. Gee, I thought West was actually a colored person who had advanced.

740 You are so clueless that you called me a Romneybot.
***
I hit the button and I see another Romneyism pop out.

It may not be what you wanted to become, but as I've said before, there is still time to change.

741 Not if we use your methods to measure it,
***
You've commited the worst sin of a troll - you are boring.

Try harder.

742 I need to look at some Japanese gals.

It helps me relax.

And dismiss the stupid drivel I encounter from time to time.

Posted by: eman at April 24, 2012 02:17 AM (YrBvI)

www.wallcoo.net/celebrity/yumiko_shaku/index.html

743 'Night, folks. Teleconference with Canadians early tomorrow. The sneaky fuckers still deny they ride polar bears to work.

744

I know one thing. If I was Romney and had $250 Million I would be living in St. Thomas and telling the rest of the world to suck it.

 

The man has nothing else to prove and the job he is trying to get sucks. At least 130 million americans are going to hate you not matter what the fuck you do. That doesn't count the other 5 billion people in the world that would like to see you dead.

 

The man in my opinion is trying to help us. We should get behind him and give him a chance.

745 As far as an acceptable "conservative" Scott Walker would make a good choice. Is that good enough?

746 18-1, just get it over with and surrender.
***
As I've said, I will not join you - so as you throw in the towel, consider if that is really what you want to do.

747 791 You are so clueless that you called me a Romneybot.
***
I hit the button and I see another Romneyism pop out.

It may not be what you wanted to become, but as I've said before, there is still time to change.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 02:19 AM (3aXbg)

Again I ask. Who is the perfect conservative candidate in 2012?

748 I know, let's for vote for a guy who will for sure spend us into oblivion, who will appoint liberal judges, gut the military, kiss the ass of every third world commie sympathizer, over a guy who will do none of these things and spend less! Fucking brilliant am I!!!!!

Posted by: 171/2-1 at April 24, 2012 02:10 AM (RJ8yG)..........................................LOL pretty much sums up his/her arguments doesn't it. Oh well no you know where Luap Nor posters come from,

749 I know one thing. If I was Romney and had $250 Million I would be living in St. Thomas and telling the rest of the world to suck it.

The man has nothing else to prove and the job he is trying to get sucks.
***
I thank you for your support. And St Thomas is too passe for more then a visit anyway.

750 Posted by: Robert at April 24, 2012 02:21 AM (4ixH5) Thanks, but not quite what I had in mind.

751 Again I ask. Who is the perfect conservative candidate in 2012?
***
There were no perfect candidates.

We did have two that actually advanced conservative goals in congress and a third who did so as a governor.

But the party apparently decided that conservative is too risky.

752 Ultimate sailing prize,,

Your own hawt Japanese cheer leading squad,,  http://tinyurl.com/6llpbzk

Now that's incentive to win..

753 That magical budget cutter is a myth.

Sure, people say they want budgets cut. But when it comes to specifics, it's the same as with the lefties. Don't cut what you spend on ME, and don't raise MY taxes.

Jesus Christ himself couldn't get people to budge from that

754 Here's the paradox everyone seems to miss -- Leaders follow voters, not the other way around.

Bitching about leaders is a waste of time.  You need to change the minds of everyday people.  Politicians will change to match.

755 If we are to hope and wait until the second coming of Reagan, then we will be disappointed, because he is not coming back.

756 You've commited the worst sin of a troll - you are boring.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 02:20 AM (3aXbg) ////////////////Translation...I have nothing to refute about what you said. And as for troll. LOL. Pot meet Kettle.

  

 

757 Good night, all. Have a file in my Inbox to edit.

758 797 As far as an acceptable "conservative" Scott Walker would make a good choice. Is that good enough?

Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 02:22 AM (kPe9l)

You do know he isn't running for President?

759 Translation...I have nothing to refute about what you said. And as for troll. LOL.
***
When the name fits you should wear it proudly.

760 Mike Smith: SuperGoalie. SuperHuman. SuperYote. Those wacky Doggies did it. Coyotes Rule/Blackhawks Drool!

761 If I was looking to run a business for me, I'd hire Romney based on his record. If I was looking for a man to cut spending I would not.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 02:18 AM (3aXbg)

 

Look I don't know where to start with you. The US Government is a business. Like with any business just cutting doen't make you successful.

 

Ford could have saved a lot of money if they just quit building cars and fired all the people. Nobody would give them money anymore if they did that.

 

You have to find a balance to make things work.

762 There were no perfect candidates.

We did have two that actually advanced conservative goals in congress and a third who did so as a governor.

But the party apparently decided that conservative is too risky.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 02:25 AM (3aXbg)

Please regale us with the names of these wonderful candidates?

763 ***
When the name fits you should wear it proudly.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 02:29 AM (3aXbg) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Sure thing there Sparky.

764 I thank you for your support. And St Thomas is too passe for more then a visit anyway.

Posted by: John Kerry at April 24, 2012 02:23 AM (3aXbg)

 

Romney isn't a gigalo, he made his money by working for it. He gave his inheritance to his church and charity.

 

There is a huge difference between making your money by working for is and marrying it.

765 808 ETA: I mean that in the sense that there will never be another Republican candidate/president just like Reagan, and I feel it is time we stop pretending that another Reagan will appear if only we do x, y, or z.

766 Bean! I got a girl here interested in meetin' ya. http://tinyurl.com/d89gpor Careful, she's a little shy.

767 You do know he isn't running for President?

Posted by: MrCaniac in the OBX at April 24, 2012 02:29 AM (FoNan)

 

You wanted a name. I put one out. Scott Walker would make one hell of a better president than Mitt.

Walker is a winner. A very good conservative record. Maybe the GOP is so caught up with its my turn type of candidates that it gets what it deserves.

 

Mitt is no guarentee in November. Mocking those that have reservations about Mitt will not win any converts.

768 xkcd: Late-Night PBS http://tinyurl.com/7bv5q3f

769 808 ETA: I mean that in the sense that there will never be another Republican candidate/president just like Reagan, and I feel it is time we stop pretending that another Reagan will appear if only we do x, y, or z.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at April 24, 2012 02:33 AM (d6QMz)

 

Reagan didn't even run on cutting government, he ran on increasing personal freedom. There was no doubt that he was going to increase spending on defense massively. The left called him Ronny Reaguns.

 

He was just trying to reange the deck chairs on spending from social programs to defense.

770 I got a girl here interested in meetin' ya.

Oh yeah Robert,, I like 'um shy..

771 You wanted a name. I put one out. Scott Walker would make one hell of a better president than Mitt.
Walker is a winner. A very good conservative record. Maybe the GOP is so caught up with its my turn type of candidates that it gets what it deserves.

Mitt is no guarentee in November. Mocking those that have reservations about Mitt will not win any converts.

Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 02:36 AM (kPe9l)

The problem is that every potential candidate is ideal. Walker does look good, but I bet a deeper inspection of his record will show a lot of "non conservative" holes.

I agree that the "my turn" candidates should be done away with. So if that is the case, George H.W. Bush should have been the candidate in 80, right?

772 Robert at April 24, 2012 02:35 AM (4ixH5)


there is no boat in this picture ... that I could see anyway ...

773

So if that is the case, George H.W. Bush should have been the candidate in 80, right?

 

88, 92, 96, 00, 04, 08

 

1 out of 7. Its been a good run for the its my turn repubs, Crap sandwiches all of them, but hey at least they had an (r) after thier names right?

774 there is no boat in this picture ... that I could see anyway ...


Takes a male imagination,, and thinking about "motorboatin" Adriane .. if you know what I mean..

775 #820 I'm not an expert on politics, but I don't think they are going to go back and redo primaries. My only real choices in the next election are going to be Romney and Obama. If I don't vote for Romeny I will be helping Obama get re-elected. I may not like the situation but that is the situation.

776 1 out of 7. Its been a good run for the its my turn repubs, Crap sandwiches all of them, but hey at least they had an (r) after thier names right?

Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 02:47 AM (kPe9l)

Good to know that you preferred Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and Obama. That group was so much better than the GOP alternative.

777 1 out of 7. Its been a good run for the its my turn repubs, Crap sandwiches all of them, but hey at least they had an (r) after thier names right?

Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 02:47 AM (kPe9l)

 

Since you served in Iraq you were probably a toddler in the 80's or just being born. I served in Vietnam, Reagan turned around a country that was failing. Romney can do it now.

778 beanervt at April 24, 2012 02:48 AM (KZLoo)

What ?!?  What ?!!!!???

I didn't see the motor either!!!!  OMG!!

779 Good to know that you preferred Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and Obama. That group was so much better than the GOP alternative.

Posted by: MrCaniac in the OBX at April 24, 2012 02:49 AM (FoNan)

 

So now you understand me better than I do myself. Pretty lame there. I voted for each of those imt repubs. Because they were the lessor of the evils. What did it get me? Almost nothing except for the chance to re-enlist in the Army unde GWB after getting riffed out under klinton.

 

Yes, thank you GOP for Schip,nclb, medicare part-d, and host of smaller things too numerous to mention.

 

"Read my lips, no new taxes! One small promise and GHWB caved . What the hell it's not thier money is it?

780 822 Reagan didn't even run on cutting government, he ran on increasing personal freedom. There was no doubt that he was going to increase spending on defense massively. The left called him Ronny Reaguns. He was just trying to reange the deck chairs on spending from social programs to defense. President Reagan was less conservative than some remember but he was undoubtedly a great president. What I think people have forgotten, though, is just how unique he was in effectively championing conservative ideals.* This is one reason why we keep having trouble selecting a nominee every four years, is because we use both the true Reagan and our idealized portrait as our yardstick. It would be better to push for certain qualities rather than demand his likeness on all fronts. Hope that makes sense. *Even if he was not 100% consistent in carrying them out in practice

781 No I was not a "toddler" in the 80's I was born in 65. I was 37 when I went to Iraq. They were taking whoever would go.

782 1 out of 7. Its been a good run for the its my turn repubs, Crap sandwiches all of them, but hey at least they had an (r) after thier names right?

Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 02:47 AM (kPe9l)

====

No, the R's are worth shit.  You are not the only one that sees that.  But even as shit, they are still far superior to the other brand.

Are you seriously unaware of Edwards, Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Clinton, Kucinich, McGovern, Mondale, Reid, O'Neill, Pelosi, Jim Wright, Carter, Kennedy, Corzine, Gephardt, Hart, Udall, Sanders, Frank, Dodd, Biden, Tsongas, Kohl, Franken, Moonbeam, Dukakis, Simon, Daschle, Mitchell, Hollings, or Ofuckface?

Give us a fucking break.

BTW, Reagan worship tends to make me laugh.  Am I the only one that remembers 1,000 failed banks and Savings & Loans?  Our country has been real fucked up for a long time.  But we still have a choice between a shit sandwich or being buttfucked by an ice auger.  Shit may not taste good, but it still beats the alternative hands down.

783 i would vote for some real losers before Obama. someone said ROmney was no different than Clinton. I said yup. i'd vote for him too. first things first-- get the marxist crazyman OUT.

784 Shouldn't the first item on the agenda of Barky's #AtrocityPreventionBoard be Mooch's clothes closet?

785 #836 Amen Gushka!

786 Hey Gushie, Hey Adriane, Hey Bean.  *dons eeyore voice*  Oh, and Robert, too.

787

Like I said before, more than likely Mitt will get my vote. However I will not sugarcoat how I feel about the politician Mitt. I have no problem with his money or his religion or his other personal stuff.

 

I have a problem with his governing record. He is a center left progessive no matter what you want to say. His record in Mass. supports this.

788

Really? I've skimmed some of the comments. Someone's really trying to argue that by not voting for Romney and ending up with four more years of Obama, that will somehow correct the path our country's on?.........good luck with that.

 

 

But there's a better debate hidden in this thread. Which former pop star has the best nude pictures? I see Belinda Carlisle has gotten a nod. That's a good start. But let's not forget Gerri Halliwell. I also have a soft....or not so soft...spot for her.

789 Hi jc! Hi all! how goes the glorious revolution?

790 i would vote for some real losers before Obama. someone said ROmney was no different than Clinton. I said yup. i'd vote for him too. first things first-- get the marxist crazyman OUT.

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 24, 2012 03:06 AM (r7Ddb)

 

Heh, I did actually vote for clintons second term. The only dem I ever voted for. He was on board with blanacing the budget and cutting welfare and the economy was doing gangbusters so I said why not.

 

I respected Bob Dole but he just didn't do it for me.

791 I have a problem with his governing record. He is a center left progessive no matter what you want to say. His record in Mass. supports this.

Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 03:10 AM (kPe9l)

no doubt, but i dont think he wants to see us on our knees and with blood in the streets. So theres that for him...

792 In news from home,, coppers busted a "still working hard" 71yo. for selling drugs.. he almost made it to retirement..

Hi ya JC... snow melted yet????

793 jc at April 24, 2012 03:08 AM (ufJKx)

The wonderful thing about tiggers is ... um ... either a tank full of gas or a bowl of sugar frosted flakes ...

ok I got nuttin' ...

794 840 Like I said before, more than likely Mitt will get my vote. However I will not sugarcoat how I feel about the politician Mitt. I have no problem with his money or his religion or his other personal stuff.

I have a problem with his governing record. He is a center left progessive no matter what you want to say. His record in Mass. supports this.

Posted by: GMB at April 24, 2012 03:10 AM (kPe9l)

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after decades of voting a straight racist line, LBJ surprised a lot of people.  (Although I will accept or advance the notion that his racism just changed flavors, that is not the conventional view)  The past gives you clues, but it is not an ironclad predictor of what a politician will do when their situation changes.

795 tiggers is ... um ... either a tank full of gas


Yeah Adriane,, the peta's ruined that... now they have to use nitrogen instead of Tiggers...in the tank..

796 845 In news from home,, coppers busted a "still working hard" 71yo. for selling drugs.. he almost made it to retirement..

Hi ya JC... snow melted yet????

Posted by: beanervt at April 24, 2012 03:14 AM (KZLoo)

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not all of it.  There's still quite a bit in shady spots.

797 839 Hey Gushie, Hey Adriane, Hey Bean. *dons eeyore voice* Oh, and Robert, too. Posted by: jc at April 24, 2012 03:08 AM (ufJKx) What am I -- chopped liver?

798

Posted by: 171/2-1 at April 24, 2012 02:10 AM (RJ8yG)

 

Heh.  That sums it up perfectly.

799 #850 That's ok hon, I still love you

800 850 839 Hey Gushie, Hey Adriane, Hey Bean. *dons eeyore voice* Oh, and Robert, too.
Posted by: jc at April 24, 2012 03:08 AM (ufJKx)



What am I -- chopped liver?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2012 03:21 AM (kaalw)

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Oh, Hey CT.  Sorry about the oversight --

And, no, more like calamari.

801 852 #850 That's ok hon, I still love you Posted by: Hummingbird at April 24, 2012 03:24 AM (R5yLq) *basks*

802 Oh, Hey CT. Sorry about the oversight -- And, no, more like calamari. Posted by: jc at April 24, 2012 03:24 AM (ufJKx) *frowns*

803

Posted by: 18-1 at April 24, 2012 02:25 AM (3aXbg)

Ah, so you're a Palinbot. Funny how much Paulbots and Palinbots sound alike.

804 ===
not all of it. There's still quite a bit in shady spots.

At least it's melting JC.. instead of accumulating. good deal.. 

805 What am I -- chopped liver?

He might of missed ya Cooth,, lurking in the depths and all...

806 Today was very breezy, and sucked the moisture out of the carnivores.

807 858 What am I -- chopped liver? He might of missed ya Cooth,, lurking in the depths and all... Posted by: beanervt at April 24, 2012 03:31 AM (KZLoo) I'm still basking in HB's appreciation.....

808 #856 I'm not very politically savvy, not yet. Why has Ron Paul run for President so many times?

809 859 Today was very breezy, and sucked the moisture out of the carnivores.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 24, 2012 03:33 AM (kaalw)

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In a Kay Lenz sorta way?

810 #860 Such a flirt! But you know your my favorite.

811 " 836 i would vote for some real losers before Obama. someone said ROmney was no different than Clinton. I said yup. i'd vote for him too. first things first-- get the marxist crazyman OUT.

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 24, 2012 03:06 AM (r7Ddb) "

ITA. I'm so desperate  for  ABO that I'd even take Hilary over Obama! Now that's desperate!

How's the baby kitties, btw? I've raised kitties from 3 weeks so I've been enjoying your posts and updates