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April 25, 2012

Overnight Open Thread (4-25-2012)
— Maetenloch

Operation Eagle Claw: April 24th, 1980

Commenter Ryan reminded me that yesterday was the 32nd anniversary of the failed Iranian hostage rescue. Just one of the many reason I keep a torch of hate in my heart for Jimmy Carter and the Iranians.

Under the cover of darkness, eight navy helicopters were to fly from the U.S.S. Nimitz, based in the Arabian Sea, to "Desert One," a secret staging area in central Iran picked by the CIA, where they were to meet up with U.S. Delta Forces aboard three C-130 transport planes flying in from Oman. Another three C-130 transport planes carrying 18,000 gallons of fuel for the helicopters were also supposed to land at Desert One. The eight Navy helicopters would then refuel and fly the Delta Forces to "Desert Two," another spot about 50 miles south of Teheran, where they would conceal the helicopters and hide out during the day.

Eagle Claw only got as far as Desert One when disaster struck. On the night of April 24, 1980, a dust storm (haboob) forced one of the eight Navy helicopters to turn back, and another crash-landed after being disabled. The other six helicopters landed at Desert One, but another was lost to hydraulic problems. With just five helicopters operational, the commander on the scene decided to abort the mission - but that's when the real trouble started.
As the U.S. aircraft prepared to evacuate, one of the helicopters crashed into a C-130 carrying fuel and troops, destroying both aircraft and killing eight U.S. personnel. In the ensuing panic, all the other helicopters were abandoned - but not destroyed - so the Iranians actually came out ahead by several helicopters (some of which are still in service in the Iranian Navy).

Despite the mission's failure plans were made for another rescue mission: "Planning for a second rescue mission attempt was authorized under the name Project Honey Badger shortly after the first failed."

And note that the State Department is still preventing the American hostages from suing the Iranian government based on an agreement that was never ratified and ended when the Carter Administration did.

News You Can Use: How To Escape From Zip-Tie Restraints

All you need to do is to replace your shoelaces with paracord.

How a Reddit User's Post Turned Into A Hollywood Script

But perhaps the coolest reddit phenomenon involves James Erwin, a 37-year-old former software manual writer from Des Moines, Iowa. For him, reddit became a ticket to Los Angeles - not for vacation, but to start his new career as a Hollywood screenwriter.
While browsing reddit last August, Erwin, who majored in history, posted an enthralling response to one user's query: "Could I destroy the entire Roman Empire during the reign of Augustus if I traveled back in time with a modern U.S. Marine Infantry Battalion or MEU?"
Erwin's response: Five paragraphs that read like a war novel. And people wanted more.

Modern Food Fascism

Is there a polite way to tell them that we are happy to include them, however we will not be custom ordering meals to suit paleothic metabolisms and if they insist on maintaining their gluten/lactose/sugar/casein/fat-free diets, we would be happy to see them AFTER lunch for toasts and speeches. I don't want to be rude, but I've had enough family dinners ruined by their food proselyting that I have no interest to give them a forum at what should be a joyous time.

It's a free country so you can eat whatever you want - but when did people start expecting society and family to cater to every dietary preference/demand.

If Star Wars Had a Music Video...

This would be it.

Purple Avenger's Dream Comes True

You can now get housing made from shipping containers.

5 Creepy Parenting Fads

#5. Declaring Bratty Kids to Be Magical Superhumans ("Indigo Children" )
Raising a difficult child can be hell -- it's exhausting to deal with a kid who is uncooperative, endlessly demanding and spoiled. You have to try to get them ready to deal with school and the adult world beyond, all while helping them recognize their own potential as the next X-Men-style evolutionary leap forward for mankind.
Did the last part of that sentence confuse you? It certainly didn't if you're the proud parent of an "Indigo Child." According to the growing Indigo Child movement, your little bratty, self-centered dick is actually a magical new life-form

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1 The Vice President is a retard and the President is a commie dog-eater. That is all.

Posted by: Cicero at April 25, 2012 06:08 PM (E99n6)

2 Ah, the intrepid Maet to the rescue, once again!!! Let the fapping begin . . .

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 06:09 PM (lJ2es)

3 Crucifixion. It's what we do, man.

Posted by: The EPA at April 25, 2012 06:09 PM (E99n6)

4 Somewhere closer to first than I've ever been.

Posted by: Drewbicle at April 25, 2012 06:11 PM (YqP7s)

5 Fun Craigslist ad: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/2977737272.html

Posted by: Y-not at April 25, 2012 06:11 PM (5H6zj)

6 So Honey Badger does take some sh*t....

Posted by: KZnextzone at April 25, 2012 06:11 PM (UXEgP)

7 What do you mean, "Now you can get" a house made out of shipping containers? I pitched that idea on Reddit for a screenplay based on the In Living Color sketch, "This Old Box."

Posted by: Truman North at April 25, 2012 06:12 PM (I2LwF)

8 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2012 06:12 PM (7W3wI)

9 Just in case you haven't read this awesome beat-down of the "Brony" trend by the Fountain of Awesomeness known as Kurt Schlichter, here it is: TERRIFYING NEW TREND: GROWN MEN WHO DIG 'MY LITTLE PONY' http://tinyurl.com/ccnfrpk

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 06:12 PM (RvlzX)

10 Hi Morons

Posted by: fluffy at April 25, 2012 06:13 PM (O6q63)

Evenin' all....Caps Bruins tied going into OT. I'm listening on the radio like it's the 1950's.

Posted by: jinxthecat at April 25, 2012 06:13 PM (l3vZN)

12 Thanks Maet, that last thread was getting a little gamey. Like a Doberman that's past it's prime.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 06:14 PM (I/cLr)

13 The Romans couldn't take Hannibal and half his army was picked up along the way from Cartagena. His men probably couldn't even understand him.

Posted by: Cicero at April 25, 2012 06:14 PM (E99n6)

14 Re the food Nazis. Man and I attended a class in Piedmont regional (Italian) cooking this week. (Don't judge me.) Piedmont is known for the use of truffles, butter, soft cheeses, etc. Very rich food. One of the dishes was an appetizer/dip that is basically just anchovies and garlic sweated down into a paste with olive oil and butter. The instructor was going on and on about how cooking with the salty little fish was very trendy in NYC right now. All I could think of is how this must be some sort of loophole in Nanny B's war on salt. If I saw that man on the street, I'd kick him in the balls.

Posted by: Y-not at April 25, 2012 06:14 PM (5H6zj)

I'm a Brony.

Shut up, I have a seven year old daughter.

Posted by: Truman North at April 25, 2012 06:14 PM (I2LwF)

16 Things that still make me laugh: South Park

Things that never made me laugh: Jimmy Fallon

Posted by: kbdabear at April 25, 2012 06:15 PM (Y+DPZ)

17 Did any of you watch "Rumors of War III" on GBTV tonight?
Blew. Me. Away.
Iranians are here, folks.
Go sign up for the sight, watch the movie, then cancel your subscription.
This movie should be seen by everyone in the damn country.

Posted by: Tamminator at April 25, 2012 06:15 PM (hGi/Q)

18 g'evening, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 25, 2012 06:16 PM (JMmQ9)

19 That whirring noise is the TB3K spooling up....

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 06:16 PM (I/cLr)

20 The Romans couldn't take Hannibal and half his army was picked up along the way from Cartagena. His men probably couldn't even understand him.

Not the one in Columbia. With the hookers. That probably helped . . .

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 06:16 PM (lJ2es)

21 I'm listening on the radio like it's the 1950's. --- Hockey is FANTASTIC on the radio. Those guys know how to call a game.

Posted by: Y-not at April 25, 2012 06:16 PM (5H6zj)

22 Hah! Nice shooting Maet!

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 06:17 PM (I/cLr)

23 15 I'm a Brony.

Shut up, I have a seven year old daughter. Posted by: Truman North at April 25, 2012 10:14 PM

Please remember to leave your man card with security before exiting the building

Posted by: AoSHQ Human Resources at April 25, 2012 06:17 PM (Y+DPZ)

24 Hannibal was awesome though. Him, B.A., Face, and Murdoch were unstoppable.

Posted by: Truman North at April 25, 2012 06:18 PM (I2LwF)

25 I feel very conflicted when I encounter a gluten-intolerant person. I want to believe them that they really are ill, but I have to say most of them ascribe most of the world's ills to gluten... and I just don't buy it.

Posted by: Y-not at April 25, 2012 06:18 PM (5H6zj)

26 half his army was picked up along the way from Cartagena. His men probably couldn't even understand him.

Posted by: Cicero at April 25, 2012 10:14 PM

You owe 47 dollaahh

Posted by: Cartagena Whores at April 25, 2012 06:18 PM (UXEgP)

27 Mountain-grown Colombian hookers are the richest hookers.

Posted by: Juan Valdez at April 25, 2012 06:18 PM (E99n6)

Forget how Castro got rid of his prison population by sending them here, and Carter welcoming them with open arms, and the subsequent crime wave in Florida. Maybe we could repay the Iranians by sending our entire prison population to Tehran.

Posted by: Brian at April 25, 2012 06:18 PM (B1V8S)

If I saw that man on the street, I'd kick him in the balls.

Posted by: Y-not at April 25, 2012 10:14 PM (5H6zj)

I've never cooked with anchovies but I've heard they essentially dissolve at the right heat. Huh.

And yeah, I'd kick him in the nuts too.

Posted by: ErikW at April 25, 2012 06:18 PM (o1eaf)

30 Any ah ya'll proles want to hear me slow jam the news? Howz about rappin' the sports or quiet stormin' the weather? I can do it all bitchezzzz.

Posted by: Preznit Fo Snizzle at April 25, 2012 06:19 PM (jucos)

31 Hockey is FANTASTIC on the radio. Those guys know how to call a game.

Posted by: Y-not at April 25, 2012 10:16 PM (5H6zj)

Plus, even when there's a visual, I can't tell what the hell is going on anyway. And, before you scoff, I played hockey as a kid. We had ponds, I never considered going pro, it was just something to do on skates besides twirling around.

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 06:20 PM (lJ2es)

32 Posted by: Brian at April 25, 2012 10:18 PM (B1V8S) In that same vein, Saddam let about 100k criminals out of prison prior to the ground invasion. Undoubtedly, that helped exacerbate the insurgency problem.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 06:20 PM (RvlzX)

33 If your dietary needs are so specific, bring your own damn food and shut up about it.

Posted by: no good deed at April 25, 2012 06:21 PM (mjR67)

34 Any ah ya'll proles want to hear me slow jam the news? Howz about rappin' the sports or quiet stormin' the weather? I can do it all bitchezzzz.

Posted by: Preznit Fo Snizzle at April 25, 2012 10:19 PM (jucos)

Shouldn't you be packing?

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 06:21 PM (lJ2es)

35 I only watch hockey in ESPN highlights. They put little glowy hula hoops around the guys involved in the play so us old guys can figure out WTH is going on.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 25, 2012 06:21 PM (7yvLv)

36 I've never cooked with anchovies but I've heard they essentially dissolve at the right heat. Huh. ---- Yep. They are delicious. They add a richness to tomato-based sauces that is amazing. Not fishy. Take a tin of anchovies (drain oil first and soak the fillets in milk for a few minutes to mellow them), sautee them with oil, garlic, and slivered onion until the onion is soft and the anchovies have disintegrated. Then ladle on some of your favorite red sauce. Cook for a few minutes. Then stir in heavy cream. Serve over vermicelli. Delicious!

Posted by: Y-not at April 25, 2012 06:21 PM (5H6zj)

37 Weren't the helicopters flown by Marines?

Posted by: dan in michigan at April 25, 2012 06:22 PM (ygfeX)

38 Patient: Eeyore Symptoms: Chronic Depression Prescription: Valium (or 5 across the eyes, repeatedly.)

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 06:23 PM (RvlzX)

39 29 He'd cry like a little girl,which he pretty much is.

Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2012 06:23 PM (7W3wI)

40 Note that the food Fascism goes only one way. If I invite over a vegetarian, I'm expected to provide grass-eater food for them, but when they invite me over (like they would) I don't get any meat.

Screw them and their scrawny, flatulent asses.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 25, 2012 06:23 PM (emRwg)

41 When I was still watching the Leafs before the strike/lockout, I'd usually turn off the TV sound and listen to the radio instead too. Also usually had less inane chitchat than the TV dicks.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 25, 2012 06:23 PM (nU/dt)

42 Posted by: Y-not at April 25, 2012 10:21 PM (5H6zj) Sounds great, copy/pasted. Thanks.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 06:23 PM (I/cLr)

43 Someone here, a cob-logger, I think, linked to James Erwin's Roman Empire / Marine battalion story soon after he posted the first bit. I followed it for a while and he addressed a lot of the problems that crop up after a few days and weeks. Glad to hear it got attention.

Posted by: Retread at April 25, 2012 06:23 PM (joSBv)

44 >>Plus, even when there's a visual, I can't tell what the hell is going on anyway. It's definitely an acquired skill. It took me a while to get halfway decent at it. Watch the men, not the puck. My husband and his family will start to cheer fifteen seconds (or more) before the score.

Posted by: Y-not (Go Bruins!) at April 25, 2012 06:23 PM (5H6zj)

45 Good evening.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 10:12 PM (RvlzX)

After that shit took off on 4Chan I decided, okay, I'll watch a couple of episodes to see the appeal.

I decided it's a fine family show. If you got young daughters and you're watching TV with them and that's what's on, hey, it could be worse. It's simple flash animation, simple stories, and the characters are vaguely endearing. It's not going to have you pulling your eyeballs out.

But the bronies all must die. This I am certain about.

Truman doesn't count.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 06:23 PM (F79HU)

46 And the Panama Canal was a money pit anyway.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at April 25, 2012 06:24 PM (E99n6)

47 Are any of these InstaHotels set up yet for the Bakken fields?

Cuz it's a perfect use of them.

And man do I hate autotune.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 25, 2012 06:24 PM (ccXZP)

48 If I were offered a choice between anchovies and dog, I'd probably have to go for the dog.

I denounce myself . . .

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 06:24 PM (lJ2es)

49 Nanny Bloomburqa does not use the street. Nanny Bloomburqa uses helicopters.

Posted by: Truman North at April 25, 2012 06:24 PM (I2LwF)

50 CAPS WIN!!

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 06:24 PM (I/cLr)

51 any fish that has to be soaked in milk should only be eaten by other fish or Oceanic mammals

Posted by: KZnextzone at April 25, 2012 06:24 PM (UXEgP)

52 Fuck, Caps win.

I'll take consolation in Andrew Ference losing.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 25, 2012 06:24 PM (fC5JW)

53 They won!!!!! The CAPS won!!!! woooo woooo wooooo

Posted by: angela at April 25, 2012 06:24 PM (oZfic)

54 These #PresidentialDebateQuestions on Twitter are too hahrd.

Posted by: #OccupyResoluteDesk at April 25, 2012 06:24 PM (+nCNS)

55 Sounds great, copy/pasted. Thanks. --- It's an old Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) recipe called "Hooker's Pasta."

Posted by: Y-not (Go Bruins!) at April 25, 2012 06:25 PM (5H6zj)

56 Shouldn't you be packing? Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 10:21 PM (lJ2es) --------------------------------------------------- Why yes...... packing in Barackdelicious appearances on all of your favorite chat shows! Holla! CAPS CAPS CAPS CAPS!!!!!

Posted by: Preznit Fo Snizzle at April 25, 2012 06:25 PM (jucos)

57 Obama eats dogs.

Posted by: Hayabusa at April 25, 2012 06:25 PM (B+qrE)

58 boo! Although, I have at least been to a Caps game before (growing up outside DC). Never been to a Bruins game, but I married into a Bruins family.

Posted by: Y-not at April 25, 2012 06:25 PM (5H6zj)

59 Listening to Metallica.

Urge to destroy leftists...rising...

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 06:26 PM (F79HU)

60 CAPS WIN!!

Fuck

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 06:26 PM (lJ2es)

61 Shouldn't they be called the USAIRWAYS?

Posted by: KZnextzone at April 25, 2012 06:26 PM (UXEgP)

62 Survival Tip of the Week - Man (and Woman) cannot survive on sunshine alone: Swiss woman dies after attempting to live on sunlight; Woman gave up food and water on spiritual journey http://tinyurl.com/7v97c7t

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 06:26 PM (RvlzX)

63 36.
Love anchovies! Thanks for the tip.

Posted by: Pecos, at April 25, 2012 06:27 PM (2Gb0y)

64 Maybe we could repay the Iranians by sending our entire prison population to Tehran. Posted by: Brian

I like the way you think.

Posted by: Dianna at April 25, 2012 06:27 PM (mKMj1)

65 What sport is this? Curling?

Posted by: Truman North at April 25, 2012 06:27 PM (I2LwF)

66 Metallica - The Frayed Ends Of Sanity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd5TwJgEiP8

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 06:27 PM (F79HU)

67 56 Pasta Putanesca.

Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2012 06:27 PM (7W3wI)

68 The creepy parenting fads made me shudder.

Posted by: no good deed at April 25, 2012 06:27 PM (mjR67)

69 Swiss woman dies after attempting to live on sunlight; Woman gave up food and water on spiritual journey

There are stupider ways to go.

Posted by: Timothy Treadwell at April 25, 2012 06:28 PM (E99n6)

70 Listening to Metallica. Urge to destroy leftists...rising... Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 10:26 PM (F79HU) Link? Whaddup, Robert?

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 06:28 PM (I/cLr)

71 28 >> Maybe we could repay the Iranians by sending our entire prison population to Tehran.

Lop lop fizz fizz, oh what a relief it is.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 25, 2012 06:28 PM (ccXZP)

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 10:26 PM

She left out the Rainbows and Skittles

Posted by: KZnextzone at April 25, 2012 06:28 PM (UXEgP)

73 IIRC, that stupid airhead Jenny McCarthy wrote several articles about how her child was an Indigo, before she realized he was autistic (because of teh evil medical establishment needle-raping her precious with toxic vaccines!!!11!1eleventy)

Posted by: Brendan at April 25, 2012 06:28 PM (2jQGY)

74 Metallica - Dyers Eve

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6kb5fvv6_A

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 06:28 PM (F79HU)

75 The song in that Star Wars video sounds like a cross between "Friday" and "I've Gotta Feeling".

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 25, 2012 06:29 PM (fC5JW)

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 10:28 PM (I/cLr)

DC! How you doin'?

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 06:30 PM (F79HU)

77 woooooo Joe Ward....God Bless You !!!

Posted by: angela at April 25, 2012 06:30 PM (oZfic)

78 @62 Offer still available Peaches and Cream..

Posted by: Clemenza at April 25, 2012 06:30 PM (YlSwz)

79 She left out the Rainbows and Skittles Posted by: KZnextzone at April 25, 2012 10:28 PM (UXEgP) --------------------------------------------------- I miss Skittles.

Posted by: Saint Trayvon of Martin at April 25, 2012 06:30 PM (jucos)

80 http://tinyurl.com/7v97c7t

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 10:26 PM (RvlzX)

Facepalm

Posted by: That Biatch's Entire Line Of Ancestors at April 25, 2012 06:31 PM (F79HU)

81 49 If I were offered a choice between anchovies and dog, I'd probably have to go for the dog.

I denounce myself . . .
Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 10:24 PM

For 3 dollars, you can buy a chance to join Michelle and I

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 25, 2012 06:31 PM (Y+DPZ)

82 Metallica was great and than their bassist died and after one more good album they became pussy sell outs.

Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2012 06:32 PM (7W3wI)

83 Good, Robert! And you? I've been working early, early day shift for a few weeks, so I've been late lurking in the AM. Got a night shift tomorrow though, so I get to bore you all with my drunken semi-coherent blatherings. You lucky dogs. (or the non-food variety)

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 06:32 PM (I/cLr)

84 Dog would have to be pretty horrible to be worse than anchovies. First time I ate an anchovy pizza, I assumed the kitchen had screwed it up.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 25, 2012 06:33 PM (7yvLv)

Delicious!

Posted by: Y-not at April 25, 2012 10:21 PM (5H6zj)

I'll try it. I've been wanting to go more authentic with recipes, the old ways are always the best ways!

Posted by: ErikW at April 25, 2012 06:33 PM (o1eaf)

86 You lucky dogs. (or the non-food variety)

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 10:32 PM (I/cLr)

I'll do my best to link asteady supply of bikini babes and heavy metal.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 06:33 PM (F79HU)

87 Guess the people who aren't too fond of Kurt's brony article? That's right, the fools at Daily Kos! Open Letter to Kurt Schlichter (Because Friendship is Magic) *no link - if you're brave enough to read it, search it out yourself,

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 06:34 PM (RvlzX)

88 Okay, I'm kind of tired and in pain and annoyed, so I can only spare y'all one spittle-flecked rant. Is there a polite way to tell them that we are happy to include them, however we will not be custom ordering meals to suit paleothic metabolisms and if they insist on maintaining their gluten/lactose/sugar/casein/fat-free diets, I know this dingus is trying to, obliquely, limit what they're talking about to "voluntary" diets, and not "serious conditions," but they talk about physical symptoms of food intolerances and allergies as if they were trivial. THAT CAN KILL YOU, YOU FRACKING WHORE! I do *not* impose myself on others. I do not go to restaurants anymore because they are incapable of hygeine. I don't insist people make special food for me, I take care of myself. And yet I *still* get annoyed comments about how I'm picky or it's some kind of fad, and now some diseased cockweasel wants to call it "fascism" because I won't eat his decaying tripe? Fucking communist. I have celiac disease. It's genetic, I didn't "catch" it. I don't have a choice, things other people eat every day make me ill, I can bleed internally, and since I didn't find out about this until I was an adult (because doctors are IGNORANT APES), there is still a decent chance I will die painfully of intestinal cancer over the next 15-20 years, maybe longer because of the results of the long-term damage. I didn't know about this until I was 35, I just knew that some food made me sick. So I tried to avoid those foods, which made me "picky" and constantly harassed about it by ignorant people who thought they knew everything. We have a long-running, established pattern of "food fascism" in most human cultures, and far from being a critic of that, Michael Ruhlman and his reader "Heather" are *exemplars* of that fascism - "take what you're given and like it, and shut up about it. But listen to me complain incessantly about people who don't do what I want." How about I don't take what you serve, and *you* shut the fuck up about it? Again, not "picky." INTERNAL FUCKING BLEEDING. And it's one of the most under-diagnosed conditions around, because doctors *still* treat it like it's rarer than it is.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 06:34 PM (bxiXv)

89 Repeated from the last thread: This is how they play basketball in Estonia. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99BuRhj29HY&feature=player_embedded /hat tip Pat Dollard

Posted by: rickl supports SMOD/Supervolcano 2012 at April 25, 2012 06:34 PM (sdi6R)

90 IIRC, that stupid airhead Jenny McCarthy wrote several articles about how her child was an Indigo, before she realized he was autistic (because of teh evil medical establishment needle-raping her precious with toxic vaccines!!!11!1eleventy) Posted by: Brendan at April 25, 2012 10:28 PM (2jQGY) Yes, she tried that first. "I'm a Crystal Mom to my Indigo Child!" Um, no, you're an annoying idiot from a shitty dating show. It will never cease to amaze me how Jenny McCarthy got people to take her seriously, how she actually played a major role in bringing diseases back to life...and this was more or less on accident, I think. Can you imagine what she could do if she really wanted to kill people?

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at April 25, 2012 06:34 PM (snRY5)

91 I am blessed with a family who all like anchovies. This means we can actually order a pizza with anchovies and there's no little snot-nosed fascist bitching about fish tasting like fish.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 25, 2012 06:34 PM (emRwg)

92 For 3 dollars, you can buy a chance to join Michelle and I

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 25, 2012 10:31 PM (Y+DPZ)

Srsly, Barky, you get a free pass to Columbia and Harvard and you still can't construct a proper sentence? Srsly, go pack. Take whatever you like, we don't mind replacing the silver or the light fixtures or, really, whatever you think would look nice in the House that Rezko Bought. Take the spiffy plane, if that will help, we'll replace it with the money we save with you gone.

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 06:35 PM (lJ2es)

93 If I had a father, he would look like Barack.

Posted by: Saint Trayvon of Martin at April 25, 2012 06:36 PM (jucos)

94 48 Are any of these InstaHotels set up yet for the Bakken fields?

Cuz it's a perfect use of them.

Better than sleeping under people's houses, like they are doing now..

Posted by: TexasJew at April 25, 2012 06:36 PM (8kWKd)

95 Jimmuh Carter was a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure. And Obama is on track to exceed Carter's failures.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at April 25, 2012 06:37 PM (gIrkv)

96 ...so there we are, getting ready to 'surrender', and this TOOL! sends in helicopters. Fuck, all he had to do was send in a VW bug. Thank Allah they elected Pantywaist II. He's good as long as it's written on his teleprompter.

Posted by: M. Ahmedinejad, "Just A Student in the neighborhood"" at April 25, 2012 06:38 PM (FcR7P)

97 Merovign . . . cripes, don't know what to say, that sounds awful. I'm sorry you have to deal with this, you know you are much loved here. {{{}}}

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 06:38 PM (lJ2es)

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 10:34 PM (bxiXv)

Here, take this painkiller.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama, SCOAMF The 1st at April 25, 2012 06:38 PM (F79HU)

Jimmuh Carter IS a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

FIFY. He hasn't passed gracefully into post-presidential retirement, has he? No.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 25, 2012 06:38 PM (7yvLv)

100

One of the reasons Eagle Claw failed is because that nitwit Carter personally pared down the number of participating aircraft. Pared it down below the margin of error. I think the original plan called for going in with in excess of a dozen birds. Absolute minimum to accomplish the mission was 6.

Since fuckhead cut the number down to 8, supposedly to not seem to be an aggressive act, normal mission snafu's/attrition like maintenance problems and dust storms forced the commander on the ground to abort the mission after the collision.

Fuckstick Carter, amateur miltary strategist that he was forgot Rule #1. Your job as CinC is to give green light/red light authorization. And that's all. Let the professionals work out the details once you've given them the green light.

But fucking Carter was on a submarine so I guess he figured he knew better. Worthless POS Nobel Peace Prize winner.

Posted by: LGoPs at April 25, 2012 06:38 PM (+Uv5V)

101 The Romans would crucify the first five anchovies they met, then seal them up in those big clay urns until they fermented, and make a paste called garum, which they ate in one way or another at every single meal. We, of course, still have this, but we call it Worcestershire sauce.

I don't know what Turkish villagers do with them. Bet it's awesome though.

Posted by: Comatus at April 25, 2012 06:39 PM (ZOlM3)

102 I'll do my best to link asteady supply of bikini babes and heavy metal. You are a gentleman and a scholar. Or, we could have a thousand post hate fest like the other night. That would be fun too, right?

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 06:39 PM (I/cLr)

103 Interference by Knuble.

Just the facts, ma'am. Just the facts.

Posted by: Sgt. Joe Friday at April 25, 2012 06:40 PM (r98n4)

104 There's some asshole across the street working on his motorcycle. Keeps backfiring. Sounds like someone is firing a gun. Seriously, you old fat bastard, you're not reclaiming your lost youth. Little Sally Rottencrotch isn't gonna let you sniff her panties.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 06:40 PM (F79HU)

105

Don't get me wrong I'm not averse to eating anchovies on half a pizza

but any fish you have to soak in milk to make palatable is not for human consumption,

Now pan fried trout fresh off the fly line....sign me up!!

Posted by: KZnextzone at April 25, 2012 06:41 PM (UXEgP)

106

The Romans would crucify the first five anchovies they met,

That's some funny stuff there, Comatus.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 25, 2012 06:41 PM (7yvLv)

107 >>>In the ensuing panic, all the other helicopters were abandoned - but not destroyed - so the Iranians actually came out ahead by several helicopters (some of which are still in service in the Iranian Navy). With Carter it was helicopters and with Obama, the Iranians have a nice top-of-the-line spy drone to analyze with the help of Iranian BFFs, the Russians and Chinese. I'm starting to sense a pattern here.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 06:41 PM (RvlzX)

108 Nice work, Maet.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 25, 2012 06:42 PM (7yvLv)

109 @ 91. I have UC and refuse to have 8 feet of bowel removed. It seems like every month a food that I've eaten all my life is off limits. I'm constantly prodded to eat more, eat things that make me ill in minutes.
Hang in there. We will survive by listening to our own bodies.

Posted by: Pecos, at April 25, 2012 06:42 PM (2Gb0y)

110 100 Merovign . . . cripes, don't know what to say, that sounds awful. I'm sorry you have to deal with this, you know you are much loved here. {{{}}} Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 10:38 PM (lJ2es) Oh, it's just really annoying. I could be in a Pakistani prison or something.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 06:43 PM (bxiXv)

111 Good night, morons. Keep yer powder dry.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 25, 2012 06:44 PM (7yvLv)

112

And it's one of the most under-diagnosed conditions around, because doctors *still* treat it like it's rarer than it is.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 10:34 PM (bxiXv)

Good luck, dude. A good friend almost died from severe allergic reaction before her doctor figured it out.

I don't know where you are but there are more than a few stores where I live in Ohio that offer gluten free foods. Whole Foods and Raisin Rack to name a couple.

In fact, I think Kroger might be adding a gluten free aisle.

Posted by: ErikW at April 25, 2012 06:44 PM (o1eaf)

113 Speaking of the Russians: Russia Says There Was Interest in its Proposal on Iran http://tinyurl.com/8x8vkob tick-tock, more time.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 06:45 PM (RvlzX)

114 I could be in a Pakistani prison or something.

Dude, we would totally bust you out!!

Oh, and that reminds me, am I the only one who is still majorly cheesed about that feckless midget a-hole Tom Cruise playing Jack Reacher? It really bothers me . . .

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 06:45 PM (lJ2es)

115 Caesar dressing really is better with some anchovies in it. If you put them in before blending people never know it's there, they just know they like the dressing.

Posted by: someone at April 25, 2012 06:46 PM (bqjJT)

116 That would be fun too, right?

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 10:39 PM (I/cLr)

That was awesome. Someone needed to take that dude, embrace him hard, look him straight in the eyes and say, "Remember always, my son, that Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of miserable failure."

We need to stay locked on the enemy.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 06:46 PM (F79HU)

117 How common is celiac?

Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2012 06:46 PM (7W3wI)

118

Any Anchovies comes our way, We gut, Slice 'em up real nice

and put them in the can

That's the way we school

Posted by: the Delta Smelt at April 25, 2012 06:47 PM (UXEgP)

119 109 There's some asshole across the street working on his motorcycle. Keeps backfiring. Sounds like someone is firing a gun. Seriously, you old fat bastard, you're not reclaiming your lost youth. Little Sally Rottencrotch isn't gonna let you sniff her panties. Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 10:40 PM (F79HU) Couple of new ones in my neighborhood. Revving constantly because *all* motorcycles are out of tune and won't run properly, they come that way from the factory, apparently. I read something about a gene for tuning out noise (like for wiggling your ears). It is *impossible* to explain to people who have it that they are a huge annoyance to others.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 06:47 PM (bxiXv)

120 It hits me just now that I've never eaten an anchovy.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 06:47 PM (F79HU)

121 Caesar dressing really is better with some anchovies in it. If you put them in before blending people never know it's there, they just know they like the dressing.

Without the anchovies, it's not Caesar. And I do like it, although it makes my mouth taste icky for hours. But, I've never understood why anyone would want their pizza befouled with that stuff. What, pizza doesn't already taste good?!? Anchovies should never be passed off as anything other than BAIT.

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 06:48 PM (lJ2es)

122

Posted by: Mr Gout at April 25, 2012 10:47 PM (hXJOG)

It needs saying, but I have this large desire to stick my swollen foot up your ass.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 06:49 PM (F79HU)

123 114 @ 91. I have UC and refuse to have 8 feet of bowel removed. It seems like every month a food that I've eaten all my life is off limits. I'm constantly prodded to eat more, eat things that make me ill in minutes. Hang in there. We will survive by listening to our own bodies. Posted by: Pecos, at April 25, 2012 10:42 PM (2Gb0y) Much condolences, I hope you find a balance that keeps you from getting ill, narrow down that list. WRT to the prodding, I find that a Taser helps enormously. Some people don't listen.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 06:49 PM (bxiXv)

124 We need to stay locked on the enemy. A thousand times this. Some people have doubts about Romney. This I understand. Some of those people say "I'll show those stupid rinos, I'll stay home.". That i don't get.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 06:49 PM (I/cLr)

125 I recommend you start moving your money off-shore buddy.

Posted by: Jon Lovitz's Tax Attorney at April 25, 2012 06:49 PM (y4J7O)

126 Yay, there IS going to be an ONT tonight! Hi, all.

I can just imagine the reaction anybody would have gotten who told my dad that I might be a little hard to handle because I was an "indigo child."

Posted by: Theresa at April 25, 2012 06:49 PM (Cf5RM)

127 The Romans would win because of numbers and being badasses. Then they would figure out how our shit works. Then they would make their versions of modern technology. Then they would fuck the rest of the World up the ass.

Posted by: eman at April 25, 2012 06:50 PM (YrBvI)

128 YIKES! Look at the time!

Gotta get ready for woik.

I'm out. Be back later for the late crew.

Remember always, my children, that Barack Hussein Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of miserable failure, as is the entire leftwing.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 06:50 PM (F79HU)

129
Reagan starts with R...Roooommmneeey starts with R.....
***
Hey guys!

Posted by: Rasputin at April 25, 2012 06:51 PM (3aXbg)

130 A house made out of shipping containers? So FOB architecture is all the rage? I guess the next thing will be uncovered plywood and 2x4 bed frames.

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 06:51 PM (jdZlf)

131 The Romans would win because of numbers and being badasses.
***
And specifically being more ruthless.

What would our Marine unit do when the Roman captured their "camp followers" and threatened to kill them all?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2012 06:52 PM (3aXbg)

132

136The Romans would win because of numbers and being badasses.

They already did and they're F*cking it up again..

Posted by: KZnextzone at April 25, 2012 06:52 PM (UXEgP)

133 Night Robert!

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 06:52 PM (I/cLr)

134

How common is celiac?

Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2012 10:46 PM (7W3wI)

Probably much more common than is recognized.

Posted by: ErikW at April 25, 2012 06:53 PM (o1eaf)

135 124 How common is celiac? Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2012 10:46 PM (7W3wI) It's still a guess, they used to think it was less than .1%, now they figure at least 1.0-1.3%, and as they're finding out now, it's not only more than one genetic condition, but some of them are "asymptomatic," i.e. you only find out during the autopsy for death by intestinal cancer, if ever. Something like 3-4% of those have been diagnosed properly. A larger number have guessed correctly. It's also a condition *surrounded* by urban legends and just bad terminology or information, so a lot of self-help is done poorly (and so is a lot of medical help).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 06:53 PM (bxiXv)

136 I've always wanted to a Star Wars video about Darth Vader set to "Promises" by Lyle Lovett.

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 06:53 PM (jdZlf)

137 Prednisone is barely, just barely better than whatever you are taking it for. I took that shit for 3 months for my UC, and I was one pissed off, ruthless bastard. Even Cougar asked the doc, "he's always been angry and aggressive, but is this normal?" Doc said, yep, sure is.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 06:55 PM (I/cLr)

138 I actually read about half of that "Marines vs. Rome" thing. I'm not surprised it got Hollywood attention (if that's accurate), what I read was full of cliches and improbabilities.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 06:56 PM (bxiXv)

139 Reagan starts with R...Roooommmneeey starts with R..... *** Hey guys! Posted by: Rasputin at April 25, 2012 10:51 PM (3aXbg) ---------------------------------------------- Sup fellas.....

Posted by: Rodney Allen Rippy at April 25, 2012 06:56 PM (jucos)

140 Evening all! Love the Marines go to Rome story.. very clever.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 25, 2012 06:58 PM (DGIjM)

141 Evening, all!

@148...... I love it, I get euphoric. I can't sleep, though, and ultimately I gain so much weight, so I am glad to come off it.

I wonder if it affects women differently? Or maybe the doses varied greatly?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 25, 2012 06:58 PM (SsG4J)

142 Celiac is getting that same mixed-blessing that autism has gotten over the last ten years. Increased awareness means more people are getting diagnosed, they have more options available to them---but it also means that a lot of trendy nimrods are jumping on the bandwagon, and people act as though the people who really do have celiac/gluten intolerance are all trendy nimrods. The diagnosis process itself sounds hellish, especially for kids. I can't imagine wanting to subject myself/my kid to a colon biopsy to determine whether it was celiac or "just" gluten intolerance, when they both have the same treatment.

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at April 25, 2012 06:58 PM (snRY5)

143 Motherfucker. The Senate has approved $11 billion of OUR money (yours and mine) so the post office can keep delivering on Saturday. Because, it would be a fuckin' tragedy if I only got my junk mail Monday through Friday. What the hell is wrong with these people, don't they know how pissed off we are?

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 06:58 PM (lJ2es)

144 149 Not to mention,it's been done before.

Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2012 06:58 PM (7W3wI)

145
>>Swiss woman dies after attempting to live on sunlight

In a similar way, The JEF wants to run the power grid from sunlight.

Posted by: sTevo at April 25, 2012 06:59 PM (VMcEw)

146 I could have rescued the Iran hostages with a remote control helicopter, one gallon of gas, and a paper airplane.

Posted by: Barack Obetterthanyou at April 25, 2012 06:59 PM (GjDnP)

147
For all of you chatty Cathy's who hate flames on the ONT:

My Dad beat the reaper and is now in ambulatory rehab at a great nursing home only two miles away.

Full of piss and vinegar, insisting on walking to the bathroom and asked the nurse if she could "shut the broad up" who was wailing like a banshee.

Took the BIL who had a dissected aorta to the heart hospital and blood coagulation clinic today as well as doing paperwork for Dad's release. Brother (Joseph K.) really pulled through with other admin details and new clothing on his way home from work.

Packed 24 hours of shit into 12 and I am exhausted.

Bed time now. Plz turn the place into a shambles overnight which I can be proud to view in the AM.

And so with that I bid y'all adieu.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 25, 2012 07:00 PM (7+pP9)

148 129But, I've never understood why anyone would want their pizza befouled with that stuff.

I've never put them on pizza either. But could be convinced that they'd be OK in a red pasta type sauce.

Posted by: someone at April 25, 2012 07:00 PM (bqjJT)

149 Marines would have a shot if they rallied the Vandals or the Gauls depending which century they showed up in. Most likely a Roman general would turncoat and offer his allegiance for emperor after the Marines left.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 25, 2012 07:00 PM (tKFT6)

150 104 Jimmuh CarterIS a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure. FIFY. He hasn't passed gracefully into post-presidential retirement, has he? No. Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 25, 2012 10:38 PM (7yvLv) Very true. For a long time I though Carter was just a clueless twit, in over his head, but basically a decent guy. In the last 10 or 15 years the mask has come off and he's shown what an evil, nasty worthless piece of shit he really is. I can proudly say that the first vote I cast for President was against his worthless ass, in 1976.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at April 25, 2012 07:01 PM (gIrkv)

151 Tammy! I couldn't wait to get off of it, scaled down just as fast as they would let me (actually, faster, I cheated because doctors are stupid) I could barely stand to be around me, I'd hate to think what others thought of me. Luckily, I don't care. Plus, losing muscle while gaining fat didn't help my outlook.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 07:01 PM (I/cLr)

152
What makes anyone think that a Roman legion wouldn't break and run, faced with a modern combat outfit? It would be incomprehensible to them.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 25, 2012 07:01 PM (SAMxH)

153 156 Motherfucker. The Senate has approved $11 billion of OUR money (yours and mine) so the post office can keep delivering on Saturday. Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 10:58 PM (lJ2es) Don't just privatize it, turn it over to Wal-Mart. And then fire the Senators.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 07:01 PM (bxiXv)

154 Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 25, 2012 11:00 PM (7+pP9)

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 07:01 PM (lJ2es)

155 That marines in Rome story was awesome! I'd buy it! Better yet, watch it as a HBO series.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 25, 2012 07:03 PM (UTq/I)

156 24 Hannibal was awesome though. Him, B.A., Face, and Murdoch were unstoppable. Posted by: Truman North at April 25, 2012 10:18 PM (I2LwF) How did they get all those elephants in the back of the van, though? BTW, the idea that one battalion of modern marines could overthrow the entire Roman Empire was discussed on this blog before... And is nuts. The Romans weren't stupid nor primitive - 300 Conquistadores overthrew the Aztecs, but the Romans were politically far too sophisticated to allow the seizure of one emperor or Rome itself destroy their state. They had a standing military of something like 450,000 soldiers. They had the equivalent of special forces. They would figure out quickly that their enemy was phenomenally armed but ill supplied, and play a waiting and attrition game against them. Then, they would simply overwhelm the marines with sheer numbers. And if they captured some weapons, like rifles, it would not take them long to produce their own.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 25, 2012 07:03 PM (niZvt)

157 Great news for USS Ronald Reagan. Andres Brugal, executive officer, has retired and joined the firm Intevac. Short their stock if you can.

It's bad enough that he goes on the Military History channel and says that the first US carrier was a converted cruiser (it was a collier), then says Midway was the first battle fought across the horizon, aircraft only (that would be the Battle of the Coral Sea, and someday he'll meet a Lex vet who will fix his teeth for him free of charge). Academy man?

But last night they broke into a program about the Battle of the Coral Sea to present his dissenting opinion. And they run these shorts for a year or so, and I shall continue to be tormented.

They also say ar-miss-tice, but you get used to it.

Posted by: Comatus at April 25, 2012 07:04 PM (ZOlM3)

158 DC, I'm sure you had plenty of muscle to spare!

Ed, awesome news. You are such a good son/bro/person. Remember to take care of you.

Peaches, Shrimpy, everyone...I am doing a drive-by tonight, just stopped in to say hello. Trying to stay off the Top 10 this week.

Night, all!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 25, 2012 07:04 PM (SsG4J)

159 Then they would figure out how our shit works.

Then they would make their versions of modern technology.

Not likely.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 25, 2012 07:04 PM (fC5JW)

160 What is it with all of you Asians in here and stinkin' this place up? Where are all of my people?

Posted by: Marion Barry at April 25, 2012 07:04 PM (jucos)

161 A marine MEU will have success on a local level, but doesn't have the numbers or firepower to hold onto significant amounts of territory. The real advantage will be if they have someone with access to information on making gunpowder and some knowledge of gunsmithing.

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 07:05 PM (jdZlf)

162 Ed Anger - awesome news on your dad! And I don't hate flames on the ONT, I just get weary of the "no, you're a RINO!" flames that we have all day long. Let's have flame wars about whose boobehs are better, or 9 vs 40 vs 45. You know, something important.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 07:05 PM (I/cLr)

163
I remember the hostages coming home after Reagan made it perfectly clear that he wasn't going to pussy foot around.

Seems like today we have a bigger more excellent pussy. He even admitted to his campaign staff that he could be a better job of being a pussy than anyone he hired. Surprising that he eats dogs.

Posted by: sTevo at April 25, 2012 07:05 PM (VMcEw)

164 I'm not going to bother with the link (because it's written in Austrian!) but a 15-year-old Turkish schoolboy has committed arson at the Vienna cathedral of Wiener Neustadt.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 25, 2012 07:05 PM (nU/dt)

165 Good shit, Ed.

Posted by: ErikW at April 25, 2012 07:06 PM (o1eaf)

166 87 Dog would have to be pretty horrible to be worse than anchovies. First time I ate an anchovy pizza, I assumed the kitchen had screwed it up.

Anchovies are awesome. On the other hand, there are those supersalty, bitter, nasty things you get on most pizzas if you order anchovies. I don't know what those are.

Posted by: Splunge at April 25, 2012 07:06 PM (2IW5Q)

167 Hi ya ChemJeff!!

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 25, 2012 07:07 PM (DGIjM)

168 Democrats want the Navy to name a ship the USS Harvey Milk, after a gay activist. No word if it should be painted pink. We REALLY need to stop naming ships after people and stick with battles, cities & states, and maybe mythological figurs.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 25, 2012 07:07 PM (niZvt)

169 And if they captured some weapons, like rifles, it would not take them long to produce their own. Posted by: CoolCzech at April 25, 2012 11:03 PM (niZvt) I'd argue that part. They would have to standardize measurement and machining first. A very clever Roman could figure out that was necessary, but it would still take a long time to implement. Oddly, capturing 3rd-world weaponry (AKs, Chinese knockoffs) would allow faster reproduction, but they'd still have to master tool-grade materials first. I just think it would be nice if someone would sit down and imagine what actual *people* would do in these situations, rather than starting with an ending in mind and then manipulating the plot to suit that. It's all so contrived.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 07:07 PM (bxiXv)

170 Oh please.

Folks in Mexico have been living in shipping containers for years.

Posted by: Internal Revenue Service at April 25, 2012 07:08 PM (piMMO)

171 We REALLY need to stop naming ships after people and stick with battles, cities & states, and maybe mythological figurs. Posted by: CoolCzech at April 25, 2012 11:07 PM (niZvt) ----------------------------------------------------- USS Rodney Allen Rippy

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 25, 2012 07:08 PM (jucos)

172 184 Democrats want the Navy to name a ship the USS Harvey Milk, after a gay activist. No word if it should be painted pink. That ship would be over-stocked with "fresh" Seamen.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 07:09 PM (RvlzX)

173

Do you know what SCOAMF's favorite portion of the golf course is ?

Of Course, it's the dog-leg.

and maybe the ball washer..........

or maybe hitting into the "ruff"

Posted by: seamrog at April 25, 2012 07:09 PM (BiiCh)

174 I still say that the first appointment that Romney makes is Herman Cain for Postmaster General (although one of you 'rons has suggested Herman as the head of the TSA....which might be even better, IYKWIMAITTYD)

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 25, 2012 07:09 PM (JMmQ9)

175 122 Caesar dressing really is better with some anchovies in it. If you put them in before blending people never know it's there, they just know they like the dressing.

Yes. Using fishy stuff as a below-the-radar seasoning has deep roots. The ancient Romans, and the modern Chinese (shrimp paste), vietnamese (fish sauce), and Thais (fish sauce) know this well. Smell a jar/bottle of the stuff, and you wonder what died. Use it in judicious quantities, and you get this magical savory effect that makes you want to take another bite.

First time I bought fish sauce, I thought I must have gotten a really bad bottle.

Posted by: Splunge at April 25, 2012 07:10 PM (2IW5Q)

176 I'm going to bed now and dream of anchovies. Pasta with garlic, oil, anchovies and hot pepper.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 25, 2012 07:11 PM (emRwg)

177 Brass Barrelled M1 Romands that shoot rocks, Sun power food converters, Fish machines that make fish not taste like fish, hand cuff cutting shoe lace machines, Dog butchering posters showing white and dark meat areas (no you can't tell by fur color), Dead people vote disqualifying machines

Posted by: I miss machines guy at April 25, 2012 07:12 PM (UXEgP)

178

"Do you know what SCOAMF's favorite portion of the golf course is ?"

Anywhere he can do a rail off the dash of the golf cart?

Posted by: ErikW at April 25, 2012 07:12 PM (o1eaf)

179 71 Swiss woman dies after attempting to live on sunlight; Woman gave up food and water on spiritual journey

There are stupider ways to go.

Yes. You could go camping in Alaska with a guy who claims to know everything about bears, but pitches his tent on a bear trail. Curse you, Timmy!

Posted by: Timmy's girlfriend at April 25, 2012 07:12 PM (2IW5Q)

180 Operation Petticoat doesn't seem all that far fetched anymore really.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 25, 2012 07:12 PM (jucos)

181 First time I bought fish sauce, I thought I must have gotten a really bad bottle.

That's my favorite perfume!

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at April 25, 2012 07:12 PM (mjR67)

182 175 A marine MEU will have success on a local level, but doesn't have the numbers or firepower to hold onto significant amounts of territory. The real advantage will be if they have someone with access to information on making gunpowder and some knowledge of gunsmithing. Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 11:05 PM (jdZlf) Fuel would be easy, spare parts would not. They should have an armorer and a workshop capable of doing almost everything except raw barrels, and of making the tools needed to make raw barrels. They would have to capture territory to establish a supply chain. Copper, lead, and brass are not a problem. If they were serious and didn't give up. And they could collect and re-use brass (for several iterations anyway). Modern gunpowder may actually be beyond their ken. They could switch to black powder. They are a bit of a "glass cannon," if an extraordinary one. They could turn any battle in history or rout or even destroy any army ever gathered, but the original complaint is correct, they lack endurance without modern support.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 07:13 PM (bxiXv)

183 Evening all Yeah Ed!!! So glad your loved ones are doing better!!! Get some sleep! Merovign and DC in Towson, God bless you two. Don't sweat jerks who don't understand dietary limitations, they aren't worth it. Your health is. Tammy!!! It figures that Prednisone makes you happy!! It must be a mood enhancer. I can't sleep with it, and I get weepy. My husband does not enjoy when I have to have a session! Peaches!! How are you, Karen and your dad doing?? I knew one of the diplomats who had been held by the IRanians. He was told to go back overseas, to "get over" what happened. When he went, he couldn't handle it, so State made him retire. That made me mad, but hearing that State still won't let them try to get some justice for the hell they went through is disgusting.

Posted by: moki at April 25, 2012 07:13 PM (dZmFh)

184 190 I'd forgotten all about fish sauce in Thai food. It's not the same without it either

Posted by: someone at April 25, 2012 07:14 PM (bqjJT)

185
Most anything that moves too slow I consider edible, as long as tofu isn't involved.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 25, 2012 07:14 PM (SAMxH)

186 So, Cusak's a dick, but the trailer for The Raven is interesting. Anyone going to see it?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 07:14 PM (piMMO)

187 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 11:14 PM (piMMO) Does Cusak die in it?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 07:15 PM (RvlzX)

188 Motherfucker. The Senate has approved $11 billion of OUR money (yours and mine) so the post office can keep delivering on Saturday. Because, it would be a fuckin' tragedy if I only got my junk mail Monday through Friday. What the hell is wrong with these people, don't they know how pissed off we are? ---------------------------------------------- It's not your money. The $11 billion is the amount USPS has been mandated to pay the gov't to pre-fund FUTURE retiree health benefits. No other federal agency has been tasked with this onerous responsibility. Just USPS. USPS will use this money to "buy out" top earners near retirement who require a bit of a nudge to hit the door. Lower wage workers (new hires) will replace the top earners at a significant savings to USPS.

Posted by: Carl Marks Burgers & Fries at April 25, 2012 07:16 PM (y4J7O)

189 197 First time I bought fish sauce, I thought I must have gotten a really bad bottle.

That's my favorite perfume!

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at April 25, 2012 11:12 PM (mjR67)

No. Just no. I'd rather dream about a razor blade through the eyeball than that.

Anyway, I thought your favorite perfume was gin vomit spread out on a concrete sidewalk.

Posted by: Splunge at April 25, 2012 07:16 PM (2IW5Q)

190 Most anything that moves too slow I consider edible, as long as tofu isn't involved.

****

I like tofu.

Fried.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 07:16 PM (piMMO)

191

Posted by: Timmy's girlfriend at April 25, 2012 11:12 PM

What was her name....

Posted by: Andy Dufresne at April 25, 2012 07:17 PM (UXEgP)

192 And if they captured some weapons, like rifles, it would not take them long to produce their own.

They'd have to figure out advanced metallurgy, stamping, precision machining, gunpowder chemistry, etc., all the things that make an industrial base, just from some samples.

I think Bill Whittle once used the analogy (in an unrelated context) of showing the best watchmakers of the 19th century a digital watch. They wouldn't even know where to start making a copy.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 25, 2012 07:17 PM (fC5JW)

193 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:13 PM (bxiXv)

Forget modern weapons. Focus on rifled muskets and brass cannon. It's still enough to dominate any army in the region, and will be easier to establish an industrial base to support. Also, establishing electricity generation on a local level would be a medium range goal. Not just for military use, but because it will win over locals and impress other nations.

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 07:17 PM (jdZlf)

194

Democrats want the Navy to name a ship the USS Harvey Milk, after a gay activist. No word if it should be painted pink.

I'm OK with that, as long as they name another ship the USS Dan White.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 25, 2012 07:18 PM (0BR8F)

195 Does Cusak die in it?

****

Well, he's playing Edgar Allen Poe as a crime-fighter so, I don't know.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 07:18 PM (piMMO)

196 Shit, I see Merovign already addressed that.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 25, 2012 07:18 PM (fC5JW)

197 Peaches!! How are you, Karen and your dad doing??

Moki, you are such good people (humbling, really). Karen is having more surgery on Friday, they found some cells they didn't like. It sux. I just want her past this evil thing and on the road to happier times. Me and my dad, we're good, we're pretty indestructible.

How are you doing? I'm watching Survivor, so kinda in and out on the thread.

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 07:18 PM (lJ2es)

198 I looked it up: Harvey Milk was a naval officer. You're gonna love it.
He was a diving instructor.

Personally, I've been waiting for a battlewagon named USS Mary Rose Oakar.

Posted by: Comatus at April 25, 2012 07:19 PM (ZOlM3)

199 Gawd I hated Tigger as a kid. Total spaz. And the Cat in the Hat was a total jerk, trashing people's homes and giving kids anxiety complexes about Mom coming home and losing it.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 25, 2012 07:20 PM (5ybkc)

200 So, there's a million dollars at stake.

How do we convince the trash at Ashley Madison .com that we've slept with Tim Tebow?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 07:20 PM (piMMO)

201 @ 207

Counseling might help.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 25, 2012 07:20 PM (SAMxH)

202 198 hi Shrimps, how is lotto treating you? Posted by: chemjeff at April 25, 2012 11:12 PM (7FadD) I didnt win.. again. Oh well.. there is always Saturday.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 25, 2012 07:20 PM (DGIjM)

203 Don't just privatize it, turn it over to Wal-Mart. ------------------------------------ Yes, cuz who better to protect the sanctity of your mail than single welfare mothers who need to put their 30 hours a week in to keep their WIC cards. Granny better super glue those cash-stuffed birthday card envelopes shut.

Posted by: Carl Marks Burgers & Fries at April 25, 2012 07:21 PM (y4J7O)

204 We know that the US Marines were laid low by dirty, Roman trollops because Christ was crucified fifty years later and we still have corrupt Senators.

Posted by: t-bird at April 25, 2012 07:21 PM (FcR7P)

205

300 Conquistadores overthrew the Aztecs

Semi-true. Three hundred consquistadores triggered and led uprising among God knows how many natives that overthrew the Aztecs, who were basically Bronze Age Nazis and much hated by everyone around them.

Realistically, 300 guys with today's automatic weapons couldn't overthrow the Aztec Empire without assistance.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 25, 2012 07:22 PM (0BR8F)

206 Now, you want to get jiggy with the alternate history: The Cold War goes badly. There is a limited nuclear exchange and the rest of the world descends into mass warfare. Through the magic of Comic-Book Science, a time machine is invented, and two Expeditionary Strike Groups based around carriers and with a large supply and technological support group are sent back in time to change history and prevent the destruction of most of humanity. It would be different if you did it *deliberately*. Of course, the thing about Alternate History fiction is it's a backwater, commercially. It exists, a lot of it, but it's rarely successful. Because you are depending on a market of history geeks who don't care about authenticity, and who don't particularly have a "jonesing" for the period they study (are are willing to see it stomped).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 07:22 PM (bxiXv)

207 Harvey Milk is a great band.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 25, 2012 07:22 PM (5ybkc)

208 214-Peaches, you are precious, and inspiring. I love your feisty attitude!! I will keep praying for Karen. Bless her precious heart, it just doesn't seem to stop. I hope they get everything out, and she can heal, and enjoy a long life with her friends and loved ones!! Enjoy Survivor! I am beat, so may be off to bed soon!

Posted by: moki at April 25, 2012 07:22 PM (dZmFh)

209

I have family members who swear by the "paleo" diet fad and shriek at the sight of a kaiser roll, so that article kind of tickled me

Food enemies are serious business.

Posted by: tad blatherton at April 25, 2012 07:23 PM (1SYUg)

210 Commenter Kratos, Jr. reminded me that today was the 32nd anniversary of the failed "Operation Beagle Paw."

On the night of the SCOAMF's utter trouncing by the President we have come to know as Reagan II (Mighty Mitt Romney), still CiC Obama ordered a delivery mission of his favorite St. Louis style pizza to be dropped off to the White House (while he could still mooch off the taxpayer's dime).

A brave Air Force crew was dispatched to retrieve Barky's favorite canine topped pizza. Arriving back in DC, things went horribly wrong. A bit of ice had developed upon the White House steps, and while entering, the pie was dropped by one of the lieutenants.

SCOAMF, embarrassed and angered by the curb stomping just given to him by the American people, snapped, and took a swing at the Air Force officer. He was quickly subdued by the Secret Service, arrested, and led from the White House in cuffs. Declared mentally unable to maintain his position, he was removed from office and committed, never to be seen or heard in public again.

Mitt Romney was sworn in early (as Biden was declared mentally unable to serve... likely for years) and ushered in a prosperous, limited government golden age for the US. Which is why, to this day, 32 years later, Pres. Romney is always a unanimous choice as the 2nd best President ever, behind only George Washington himself.

Posted by: ONT -- Nov 6th, 2044 at April 25, 2012 07:23 PM (r98n4)

211 I could have taken the Romans. World would be very different.

Posted by: Mark Whalberg at April 25, 2012 07:23 PM (UXEgP)

212 Talk about going down with the ship!

Posted by: andycanuck at April 25, 2012 07:23 PM (nU/dt)

213

Personally, I've been waiting for a battlewagon named USS Mary Rose Oakar.

Christ. What next? The USS Roseanne Barr? The USS Barbra Streisand?

Ships used to be named for patriots and other heroes. WTF happened? We're now naming them for perverts and assorted ne'er-do-well turds.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 25, 2012 07:24 PM (0BR8F)

214 Realistically, 300 guys with today's automatic weapons couldn't overthrow the Aztec Empire without assistance. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 25, 2012 11:22 PM (0BR8F) I could come up with a scenario where they could, but it would be a little implausible. Back to deliberate vs. accidental time travel. The far-and-away best way to do it would be with assistance, but you could re-enact the end of the Moche people without any local assistance - just drive them out and scatter them through a campaign of assassination and remove the leadership, and create hysteria and empty the cities. I didn't say it would be *nice*.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 07:25 PM (bxiXv)

215 TERRIFYING NEW TREND: GROWN MEN WHO DIG 'MY LITTLE PONY'

http://tinyurl.com/ccnfrpk

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 10:12 PM (RvlzX)

u capable of spawning daughters?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 25, 2012 07:26 PM (vzGrO)

216
Not yet, but I can't help thinking about the "Legend of Sleepy Hollow" flick with Depp whenever I see that trailer.

***

I liked that movie but I suspect The Raven is gonna be a helluva lot bloodier. I think it's based upon The Pit ad the Pendulum story.

I wonder what type of job they'll pull on Christians in the film.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 07:26 PM (piMMO)

217 Merovign, seriously your condition sucks. If I were you, I would not eat anything not purchased and prepared by my own hand. That would be a perfectly rational decision for someone in your shoes.

But criminy, to go around whining that everyone isn't sensitive enough to your problem is a different critter. Like peanuts. The airlines no longer serve them because some people have an allergy. That's not rational, that's chickenshit. They are fucking labeled 'peanuts'. Even if you can't read, you should be able to recognize the letter symbols that represent 'peanuts'.

The question kinda becomes -- Do I adapt to the world or does the world have to adapt to me?

It sounds like you have adapted to the world, so that's good. But there is a little secret that everyone knows and few discuss, and it probably helps lead to obesity -- It is Polite to offer someone food and Impolite to decline it. So when you decline, an explanation is probably in order. Now you can jump up and down about this, but what you are insisting is that people not be offended when you are Impolite by inference in their minds.

Or you could just (repeatedly I'm sure) explain that allergies prevent you from participating in this common social ritual. If they persist after the explanation, then get pissed.

I'm not trying to piss you off; I'm giving you a different viewpoint.

There's a proven marketing strategy that you have encountered from charities -- it's called gift giving. A place like the VFW sends you a mailer with a bunch of address labels enclosed and asks for a donation. Why do they do this?

Because they are taking advantage of another social custom. If you receive a gift, you feel obligated to give a gift back. It's another social lubricant.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 25, 2012 07:26 PM (ccXZP)

218 @232, Do you recall the connection between Oakar and battleships?
It was kind of a big deal at the time.

Posted by: Comatus at April 25, 2012 07:26 PM (ZOlM3)

219 OK, I gotta sleep now. Day Two of Unemployment starts in seven hours

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 25, 2012 07:27 PM (JMmQ9)

220 Barry should deny dog eating and the story would go away. Why doesn't he just deny it?

Posted by: Tough,Tougher,Crunchy at April 25, 2012 07:27 PM (c3mby)

221

I've had fried tofu that was pretty fucking good.

It's not something you'd tear apart with your teeth and maw on or anything but it's a pleasantly crunchy and chewy texture.

Pair it up with some stir fried bean pods, broccoli, carrots, cashews and a nice teriyaki sauce over a bed of steamed rice and thats the cat's ass.

Maybe figuratively depending on the province.

Posted by: ErikW at April 25, 2012 07:27 PM (o1eaf)

222 It's not your money. Umm yeah it is. It's ALL our money, dude. Yours too. ----------------------------------- SIGH. The Post Office doesn't take your tax dollar. They operate on the money they make providing you a service.

Posted by: Carl Marks Burgers & Fries at April 25, 2012 07:27 PM (y4J7O)

223 They wouldn't even know where to start making a copy. Posted by: Waterhouse at April 25, 2012 11:17 PM (fC5JW) They would be stupid to try and make copies. Instead they could learn that these fantastic things are not magical. They could learn that if you learn more about the world around you, you get to have cool stuff. In 20 years they would have a rough approximation of mid Nineteeth Century technology.

Posted by: eman at April 25, 2012 07:27 PM (YrBvI)

224 237 Shrimps, I am sure you will win on Saturday here is a book recommendation: http://tinyurl.com/7c6orh9 Posted by: chemjeff at April 25, 2012 11:26 PM (7FadD) Thank you!! Looks like a very good book.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 25, 2012 07:28 PM (DGIjM)

225 OK, I gotta sleep now. Day Two of Unemployment starts in seven hours Posted by: AltonJackson at April 25, 2012 11:27 PM (JMmQ9) ------------------------------------------------------ I have been unemployed since January. Great isn't it?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 25, 2012 07:28 PM (jucos)

226

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 25, 2012 11:03 PM (niZvt)

And if they captured some weapons, like rifles, it would not take them long to produce their own. [/i]

I think that modern rifles would be extremely difficult for the Romans to figure out.

Making a rough copy of an M16 out of steel is not easy, but the Ancients were much more advanced than we credit them. The Antikytheria device is an example, as are the Roman version of the Leatherman (knige, spoon, spike, etc., made of iron, and folding, from 200AD or so).

They might be able to figure out blackpowder, given access to some used brass (but gunpowder and explosives in general were unknown until perhaps 1000AD), but cartridge headspace would have been a tough problem to detect and reverse engineer ... they'd be starting with rimless bottlenecked cartrides, not rimmed straight.

Then there's the primer ... black powder won't do. Assumin they figure out the significance of the small metal dot at the base of the cartridge ... what goes inside? Opening up an unused primer, to see what's inside, is risky, and 1 primer doesn't contain enough material to make analysis easy, not given pre-microscope-era and pre-alchemy-glassware-era technology.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 25, 2012 07:29 PM (eFLPk)

227 116 Anchovies, love em!

Posted by: Mr Gout at April 25, 2012 10:43 PM (hXJOG)

Screw the anchovies. All they do is make fun of me.

Posted by: Marlin the Clown Fish at April 25, 2012 07:29 PM (vzGrO)

228

My only complaint about the food fascism article: Cheese doesn't have Lactose. (At least most cheese doesn't, soft cheeses like Cottage might, but I find it unlikely.)

Also did I miss the Brony bashing? I'm upset! I'm afraid to say my wife has developed a bit of a My Little Pony, obsession of late. I suppose I can let it go, since it's less creepy when women do it (and she's got a childlike disposition, so it's at least not entirely crazy.)

Posted by: tsrblke at April 25, 2012 07:29 PM (22rSN)

229 It's not your money.

Trust me, asshole, this comes directly out of my pocket. They take a large chunk between me earning it and me having it in my pocket and then they take another 8.75 percent when I take it out of my pocket to buy what I need to live on.

So, go fuck yourself. It doesn't work the same way for us like it does for y'all on the dole.

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 07:30 PM (lJ2es)

230 Posted by: ErikW at April 25, 2012 11:27 PM (o1eaf) That is very yummy.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 25, 2012 07:30 PM (DGIjM)

231 Ships used to be named for patriots and other heroes. WTF happened? We're now naming them for perverts and assorted ne'er-do-well turds.

***

When they named a ship for Cesar Chavez, I knew it was only going to get worse. This from an article at the time:

Over the past decade, NASSCO has been building dry cargo ships for use by the Navy's Military Sealift Command. All of the ships are named after explorers or people who were pioneers in their fields. The names of the other 13 ships are:

Lewis and Clark, Sacagawea , Alan Shepard, Richard E. Byrd, Robert E. Peary, Amelia Earhart, Carl Brashear, Wally Schirra, Matthew Perry, Charles Drew, Washington Chambers, William McLean, Medgar Evers.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 07:30 PM (piMMO)

232

The Post Office doesn't take your tax dollar. They operate on the money they make providing you a service.

Us Too....

Posted by: AMTRAK at April 25, 2012 07:30 PM (UXEgP)

233 u capable of spawning daughters? Thankfully, for the world's sake, I am not. But if there's a class of people even less likely than me to get laid, it's these Bronies. It's one thing to harbor these "desires" privately, but to have these desires coddled, which only encourages these people to continue to live in perpetual childhood, is yet another sign of the times.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 07:31 PM (RvlzX)

234 So, go fuck yourself. It doesn't work the same way for us like it does for y'all on the dole. Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 11:30 PM (lJ2es) Peaches, you rock.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 25, 2012 07:31 PM (DGIjM)

235

Spicy fried tofu, the firm kind, is not a bad thing to try when you go out for Vietnamese. Nuc man just kicks it up a grade of mmmm.

Posted by: tad blatherton at April 25, 2012 07:31 PM (HueOF)

236 I like turtles.

Posted by: Baraka "Dick" Obama at April 25, 2012 07:32 PM (WUWb9)

237 The Post Office doesn't take your tax dollar. They operate on the money they make providing you a service. Posted by: Carl Marks Burgers & Fries at April 25, 2012 11:27 PM (y4J7O) Hey, Wal-Mart does that, too---takes money, provides a good/service. They're pretty good at it. Since USPS is fucking broke, I'd say USPS really *should* go ahead and let Wal-Mart run things. But, wait, when Wal-Mart does it, it's evil, right?

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at April 25, 2012 07:33 PM (snRY5)

238 Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 11:30 PM (lJ2es) ------------------------------------ You can try to cover your ignorance with your foul mouth, but you still don't know what you are talking about. Congress is simply giving the USPS their OWN money back! NONE of it is "coming out of your pocket."

Posted by: Carl Marks Burgers & Fries at April 25, 2012 07:33 PM (y4J7O)

239 The Post Office doesn't take your tax dollar. They operate on the money they make providing you a service. Us Too.... Posted by: AMTRAK at April 25, 2012 11:30 PM (UXEgP) ------------------------------------------------------- Just give us a few years and your treasury will be over-flowing.

Posted by: CHEVY VOLT at April 25, 2012 07:34 PM (jucos)

240 SIGH.

The Post Office doesn't take your tax dollar. They operate on the money they make providing you a service.

*****

This message brought to you by the American Postal Workers Union.

They are losing money by truckload. Who do you think is off-setting those losses?

Next you'll tell me Amtrak operates on ticket fares alone.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 07:34 PM (piMMO)

241 Yeah, but the USPS has a government enforced monopoly on the delivery of first class mail. To say its not a government enterprise is disingenuous at best. Anyone really think that FedEx or UPS couldn't deliver a postcard faster and/or cheaper than the USPS? Doesn't matter, they're not allowed to try.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 07:34 PM (I/cLr)

242 I keep mentioning this, but C.S. Lewis considered "food fastidiousness" a form of gluttony. And I can't disagree with him.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 25, 2012 07:34 PM (5ybkc)

243 Congress is simply giving the USPS their OWN money back! NONE of it is "coming out of your pocket." Posted by: Carl Marks Burgers & Fries at April 25, 2012 11:33 PM (y4J7O) Please explain in detail.

Posted by: eman at April 25, 2012 07:34 PM (YrBvI)

244 You can try to cover your ignorance with your foul mouth, but you still don't know what you are talking about.

Congress is simply giving the USPS their OWN money back! NONE of it is "coming out of your pocket."

Posted by: Carl Marks Burgers & Fries at April 25, 2012 11:33 PM (y4J7O)

When did the post office run in the black, confused?

Posted by: lous a girl at April 25, 2012 07:35 PM (fHyXI)

245 Spicy friedtofu, the firm kind, is not a bad thing to try when you go out for Vietnamese. Nuc man just kicks it up a grade of mmmm.

****

I eat it at a Thai restaurant and like it: Crispy on the outside and kind of spongy on the inside.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 07:35 PM (piMMO)

246 Congress is simply giving the USPS their OWN money back! NONE of it is "coming out of your pocket."
***
Ahem, that is actually MY money.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 25, 2012 07:36 PM (3aXbg)

247 After watching a TV documentary on Mormons, I have to say Mitt Romney is probably an ok guy.

Still, he doesn't dress as snappy as that Adama guy.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at April 25, 2012 07:37 PM (3aXbg)

248 Since USPS is fucking broke, I'd say USPS really *should* go ahead and let Wal-Mart run things. -------------------------------- There are many factors to USPS money woes. Email, gas prices, shitty economy, 1:6 ratio of Manager-to-Workers. It's not like they can rely on Chinese sweat shop workers to get your letter from NY-California for 45 cents.

Posted by: Carl Marks Burgers & Fries at April 25, 2012 07:38 PM (y4J7O)

249 I will gladly turn profitable Thursday, for $11 billion dollars today.

Posted by: USPS at April 25, 2012 07:38 PM (r98n4)

250 The Post Office doesn't take your tax dollar. They operate on the money they make providing you a service.
Posted by: Carl Marks Burgers & Fries at April 25, 2012 11:27 PM (y4J7O)

How do you operate on the money you make when you don't make enough money to cover the operations costs?

Posted by: buzzion at April 25, 2012 07:38 PM (GULKT)

251 I'd say USPS really *should* go ahead and let Wal-Mart run things.
***
I vote for coffee shops. There is a Dunkin Donuts or Starbucks within a 5 minute drive of everywhere I have ever lived.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2012 07:38 PM (3aXbg)

252 I was looking at that photo of MO on Drudge.

Is she levitating?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 07:38 PM (piMMO)

253 Post office borrowed 10 billion and allowed to borrow up to 13 billion.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 25, 2012 07:38 PM (DGIjM)

254 Ahem, that is actually MY money. Posted by: Barack Obama at April 25, 2012 11:36 PM (3aXbg) ----------------------------- Of course. I stand corrected.

Posted by: Carl Marks Burgers & Fries at April 25, 2012 07:39 PM (y4J7O)

255 So have we pretty much reached the point where it has been established George Zimmerman is the least likely person in America to kill someone over his skin color?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2012 07:40 PM (3aXbg)

256

That is very yummy.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 25, 2012 11:30 PM (DGIjM)

I've had noodle and chicken-broth based soups with chunks of fried tofu, chili-garlic sauce, and a touch of lime juice.

Perfect for a cold day!

Posted by: ErikW at April 25, 2012 07:41 PM (o1eaf)

257 Good News! Someone in the state department has declared the War on Terror is over! That means we can get rid of the TSA now, right?

Evening roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 25, 2012 07:41 PM (yh0zB)

258 How do you operate on the money you make when you don't make enough money to cover the operations costs? -------------------------------- Good question, buzzion. USPS is allowed to borrow $15 billion from Fed. Gov't. They have done so several times in the past when hardships or mismanagement strike. USPS has always paid this money back. Not so sure they can do so this time. Big changes are needed.

Posted by: Carl Marks Burgers & Fries at April 25, 2012 07:41 PM (y4J7O)

259 @275 I hope you've learned your lesson here. Unlike any other nation, every American is an expert on postal operations. Just ask them!

Posted by: Comatus at April 25, 2012 07:41 PM (ZOlM3)

260 Is she levitating?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 11:38 PM (piMMO)

LOL!!! I think that Gaia is simply recoiling from her touch . . .

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 07:41 PM (lJ2es)

261 276 So have we pretty much reached the point where it has been established George Zimmerman is the least likely person in America to kill someone over his skin color?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2012 11:40 PM (3aXbg)

Yeah, that one blew up in their faces.

Posted by: lous a girl at April 25, 2012 07:42 PM (fHyXI)

262 272, upon further reflection I think HEB should run the Texas outfit, at least. They've managed to be cheaper and better than Wal-Mart in every conceivable way.

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at April 25, 2012 07:42 PM (snRY5)

263 Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2012 11:40 PM (3aXbg) SHUT UP, RACIST!

Posted by: AMerican Broadcasting Corporation at April 25, 2012 07:42 PM (I/cLr)

264 I can't open the link over at Drudge, but it seems that EEOC protection has been given to "transgendered" individuals.

Which reminds me, did anyone else notice that the ~~guy~~ gal who fought to participate in the Miss USA pageant looks very much like Ivanka Trump?

I wonder if that was the goal.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 07:42 PM (piMMO)

265

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I think Romney could fix the post office better and faster than Bo.

and eat less dogs.

Posted by: KZnextzone at April 25, 2012 07:43 PM (UXEgP)

266 Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance . . .

Posted by: Hayabusa at April 25, 2012 07:45 PM (B+qrE)

267 Jeff Smith,Frugal Gourmet was a pedophile that is why he was taken off the air

Posted by: AlaskaGal at April 25, 2012 07:45 PM (2fe76)

268 I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I think Romney could fix the post office better and faster than Bo. and eat less dogs. Posted by: KZnextzone at April 25, 2012 11:43 PM (UXEgP) ---------------------------------------------------- But mostly eat less dogs.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 25, 2012 07:45 PM (jucos)

269 Dang, how is Mitt going to come up with an answer to this?
http://is.gd/fG9XyK

Posted by: Gerry at April 25, 2012 07:46 PM (7s30g)

270 So have we pretty much reached the point where it has been established George Zimmerman is the least likely person in America to kill someone over his skin color?

***

Not only is he now shown to be a decent citizen, but a fine, upstanding, considerate, role model of a citizen.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 07:46 PM (piMMO)

271 It is Polite to offer someone food and Impolite to decline it. So when you decline, an explanation is probably in order. Now you can jump up and down about this, but what you are insisting is that people not be offended when you are Impolite by inference in their minds. Posted by: GnuBreed at April 25, 2012 11:26 PM (ccXZP) The imperfection is yours. Dead serious, I am not responsible for your ignorance. I will help you understand you if I can, but the default response of the "instinctive socialite" is to shun that which is different. I don't accept food, I am treated differently. I am disinvited. And a lot of people don't care about the facts, you explain and their eyes glaze over. If you are not eating with them, *you* are doing something wrong, because the lizard brain says so. But the whole point of the rant was the disingenuousness of the linked article's author calling it fascism" to reject his cozy social convention. Fuck. That. Horse. Shit.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 07:46 PM (bxiXv)

272 Our post office does less than $50 per day of business and around 2 hours of foot traffic per day. Why is it still open?

Posted by: Cicero Kid. at April 25, 2012 07:46 PM (vzGrO)

273 Gas prices go down, economy recovers, and USPS will benefit just as any other "business" would. USPS is a $70 billion a year enterprise that supports an even larger private mailing industry(which is the real lobbying power with Congress). That means JOBS, JOBS, JOBS. I'll stop boring you all now with post office talk.

Posted by: Carl Marks Burgers & Fries at April 25, 2012 07:46 PM (y4J7O)

274 What about an anti depressant for Eeyore?

Posted by: Bitter clinger and all that at April 25, 2012 07:47 PM (CP+yl)

275 Jeff Smith got caught with little boys, plus he ate dogs..hmmmmm

Posted by: AlaskaGal at April 25, 2012 07:47 PM (2fe76)

276

Yeah, Thai style fried beancurd is weirdly good. Its actually pretty good demonstration of how hippies can ruin just about anything. South Asian cuisine is just plain good food.

Posted by: tad blatherton at April 25, 2012 07:47 PM (HueOF)

277

Posted by: Gerry at April 25, 2012 11:46 PM (7s30g)

Simple: Obama ate a dog.

Done!

(Seriously, I think Mitt will answer with: "Would you rather keep some piddly ass benefits, or have work. You're call.")

Posted by: tsrblke at April 25, 2012 07:48 PM (22rSN)

278 Actually, the Post Office is suppose to pay back the borrowed money through higher rates. So not only did the tax payers give them 10 billion we pay higher rates to pay our own money back. So yeah.. its is our money.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 25, 2012 07:48 PM (DGIjM)

279 Obama ate dog. He also eats Wookie vag.

Posted by: Whisker Biscuit at April 25, 2012 07:48 PM (0q9bg)

280 Dang, how is Mitt going to come up with an answer to this?
http://is.gd/fG9XyK

****

I'm gonna venture a guess that most people on unemployment would much rather having a job making a living.

Here in Florida, the maximum you can draw is $1100 a month, which is less than minimum wage as compared to a 40 hour week. I dang sure couldn't live on that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 07:49 PM (piMMO)

281 290 Dang, how is Mitt going to come up with an answer to this?
http://is.gd/fG9XyK

It's literally amazing how dems have no sense at all about how hard people have worked to get their money that then gets confiscated by government and frivolously given to others as though they deserve it more, just disgusting.

Posted by: booger at April 25, 2012 07:49 PM (HI6wa)

282 Time to refill my glass and change my sock

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 07:49 PM (I/cLr)

283 What about an anti depressant for Eeyore? Posted by: Bitter clinger and all that at April 25, 2012 11:47 PM (CP+yl) ----------------------------------------------------- Fukitall

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 25, 2012 07:49 PM (jucos)

284 Finally went back up and checked the "food fascism" link and, yeah, it is horse shit. The person writing it is borrowing trouble because she doesn't like her husband's family. They haven't asked her for shit yet and if she offers food and the in-laws decline, no explanation is necessary---she and the bride already know exactly why they can't/won't eat that food.

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at April 25, 2012 07:49 PM (snRY5)

285 Not so sure they can do so this time. Big changes are needed.

Posted by: Carl Marks Burgers & Fries at April 25, 2012 11:41 PM (y4J7O)

In other words, yes they are taking our money. And why do I get the feeling that paying off the loans work like the Chrysler and GM bailouts, where they don't even pay back HALF and the government says "we're square now"

And oh yeah dumbass? This bullshit stunt they're pulling is so they don't have to do those changes that are needed.

Posted by: buzzion at April 25, 2012 07:50 PM (GULKT)

286 Our post office does less than $50 per day of business and around 2 hours of foot traffic per day. Why is it still open?

****

Yours may make the cut list.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 07:50 PM (piMMO)

287 You'd think they would show at least some shame at the idea of people voting for them just so they could sit on their ass and live off other peoples hard work and money, but nope.

Posted by: booger at April 25, 2012 07:51 PM (HI6wa)

288 It's a little known fact there, Normy, that the common ONT troll is commonly associated with bestiality and dog-eating. The Ancient Romans called it canus anus masticati. Oh, and God bless the U.S. Postal Service.

Posted by: cliff claven at April 25, 2012 07:52 PM (nU/dt)

289 Yours may make the cut list.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 11:50 PM (piMMO)

When it does I WILL put a signboard up: "Closed due to the Obama recovery".

Posted by: Cicero Kid. at April 25, 2012 07:52 PM (vzGrO)

290 I posted this in the last thread as a Guess That Party! article and then noticed that they do mention it on page 2.

As someone reminded me, it would have been in the headline if it were a Republican.

http://bit.ly/Igigyt

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 07:53 PM (piMMO)

291

Posted by: booger at April 25, 2012 11:49 PM (HI6wa)

Redstate tags him as a Republican. I assumed that was wrong. Seeing as I'm unfamilar with PA representives someone want to confirm that?

Posted by: tsrblke at April 25, 2012 07:53 PM (22rSN)

292 What is this shame you speak of? Have you seen the OWS crowd? Not only aren't they ashamed, they are proud of their belief that they have a right to your stuff. It's disgusting, I agree, but how do you counter such a cultural sickness that values laziness over productivity?

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 07:54 PM (I/cLr)

293 Bestiality and dog-eating? In that order? Same Beast?

Posted by: CMU VET at April 25, 2012 07:55 PM (uc25X)

294 Fuck. That. Horse. Shit.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:46 PM (bxiXv)

Exactly.

Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at April 25, 2012 07:55 PM (NJpM7)

295 Endurance would be the problem. They could put a hurting on the locals, then retreat to a defensible locale and demand tribute.

Posted by: Jean at April 25, 2012 07:55 PM (pawS5)

296 234Realistically, 300 guys with today's automatic weapons couldn't overthrow the Aztec Empire without assistance.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 25, 2012 11:22 PM (0BR8F)

I could come up with a scenario where they could, but it would be a little implausible.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:25 PM (bxiXv) Packing in their own ammo? Let's see, one round per Aztec multiplied by the number of Aztecs multiplied by the weight of one round would come to ... a couple of tons per conquistador. Think human wave.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 25, 2012 07:55 PM (0BR8F)

297 Ugh, the USPS is facing shit because of email, and gas prices?!? Um, yeah, so what? Email is largely replacing snailmail and there's nothing wrong with that. The USPS can go under just like the buggy whip companies. The jobs will go elsewhere. And cry me a fucking river about gas prices. My husband is a trucker; his business lives and dies by gas prices (oh, hey, so does Wal-Mart's and HEB's and every other damn business that involves moving shit from one place to another) and, yet, the government isn't handing him a fat below-market "loan" to support his business.

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at April 25, 2012 07:56 PM (snRY5)

298 THEY STILL CAN'T MAKE MONEY. they are fucking terrible at running their business.

****

Ahem. Union.

I believe they can make money but like other businesses stuck paying union wages for folks who sit on their asses all day, as with the teachers union, and being stuck with the primo retirement packages, they can't possibly make enough.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 07:56 PM (piMMO)

299

316 Bestiality and dog-eating? In that order? Same Beast?

Caninililingus.

Posted by: Barky O' Dogbreath at April 25, 2012 07:56 PM (vzGrO)

300 Redstate tags him as a Republican. I assumed that was wrong. Seeing as I'm unfamilar with PA representives someone want to confirm that?

I didn't notice that, yeah, he's a dem - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaka_Fattah

Posted by: booger at April 25, 2012 07:56 PM (HI6wa)

301 Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance . . .

Posted by: Hayabusa at April 25, 2012 11:45 PM

Sounds like the average day in Skyrim.

Posted by: Berserker at April 25, 2012 07:57 PM (FMbng)

302 And cry me a fucking river about gas prices. My husband is a trucker; his business lives and dies by gas prices....

****

And, more precisely, 15% of long-term capacity has been removed from the market.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 07:57 PM (piMMO)

303 Exactly. Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at April 25, 2012 11:55 PM (NJpM7) How's your health?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 07:57 PM (bxiXv)

304

Posted by: booger at April 25, 2012 11:56 PM (HI6wa)

It is right there in the title I suppose, but I didn't read the title and just assumed the article was wrong (given "Al Sharpton Show" among other things.)

Also the title could have just meant I was missing part of the article .

Posted by: tsrblke at April 25, 2012 07:58 PM (22rSN)

305 Sounds like the average day in Skyrim. Heh. Another Survival Tip of the Week - don't just blindly charge into enemies dual wielding swords ala GoW when playing Skyrim. Use some tact.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 07:58 PM (RvlzX)

306 Evening folks..I got nothing. Well I just finished 7 twelves, and im off for the next 7. Im gonna take the AR and the Springfield to the range. Turn money into noise. Good plan!

Posted by: helofixer at April 25, 2012 07:59 PM (KexGz)

307 Packing in their own ammo? Let's see, one round per Aztec multiplied by the number of Aztecs multiplied by the weight of one round would come to ... a couple of tons per conquistador. Think human wave. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 25, 2012 11:55 PM (0BR8F) That's an extremely limited view of warfare. It's almost insulted at the suggestion I was thinking of them marching up to the capital city in a line like Redcoats. Think political assassination and sabotage. You don't need to kill their people or even their army, just disperse them - after which the empire has fallen.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 07:59 PM (bxiXv)

308 Um, yeah, so what? Email is largely replacing snailmail and there's nothing wrong with that.

The only things i get by snail mail these days are junk mail and the few remaining bills that still don't allow for paperless transactions, i've noticed the mailmen/women for my neighborhood don't even bother wearing uniforms on saturdays anymore, they just dress in their normal clothes.

Posted by: booger at April 25, 2012 07:59 PM (HI6wa)

309 My 5 year old niice has picked me as her favorite person and I am invited to school for a presentation and lunch. I will be dining on Peanut butter and Jelly. Does it get any cuter than Kindergarten?!

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 25, 2012 08:00 PM (DGIjM)

310

The Post Office doesn't take your tax dollar. They operate on the money they make providing you a service.

Hey, that's also the business plan of ...

Wait for it ....

Say it with me ....

HIGH. SPEED. RAIL.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 25, 2012 08:00 PM (0BR8F)

311 It took the USPS from Jan. 19th until Mar. 26th to get a Priority Mail envelope (with correct postage and handed to the clerk in the PO) from here to the courthouse 19 miles away.

Posted by: CMU VET at April 25, 2012 08:00 PM (uc25X)

312 Bestiality and dog-eating? In that order? Same Beast?
Posted by: CMU VET
Yes, CMU Vet. It's the origin of the phrase "trolls really like screwing the pooch and then they mooch."

Posted by: cliff claven at April 25, 2012 08:00 PM (nU/dt)

313 @332..Niece..

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 25, 2012 08:00 PM (DGIjM)

314 Sounds like the average day in Skyrim.

***

The vids over at You Tube of the Skyrim glitches crack me up. This might be my favorite:

http://bit.ly/uC01Cg

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:01 PM (piMMO)

315 Realistically, 300 guys with today's automatic weapons couldn't overthrow the Aztec Empire without assistance.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 25, 2012 11:22 PM (0BR8F)
***
How come people always forget about us? I mean yeah, Cortez wanted our gold, but he didn't want to call all Obama dinner table on us.

Posted by: Cortez's Thousands of Indian Allies at April 25, 2012 08:01 PM (3aXbg)

316 Yours may make the cut list.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 11:50 PM (piMMO)

They have told my dad that his PO of 30+ years has already been sold. It's in La Jolla, where a lot of very more substantial people than my dad have their boxes (including, I suspect, Mitt Romney). The populace is about 5 seconds away from the proverbial pitchforks and torches. Fun stuff . . .

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 08:01 PM (lJ2es)

317 New South Park airing now. Cartman becomes involved with someone.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:02 PM (piMMO)

318 Another Survival Tip of the Week - don't just blindly charge into enemies dual wielding swords ala GoW when playing Skyrim. Use some tact. Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 11:58 PM (RvlzX) And now, after almost six months, several official and a major unofficial patch, it's (mostly) stable enough to play. I might even do that tonight. They still have several hundred bugs to fix, but hey, you know, good enough for government work. I will never preorder another game as long as I live.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 08:02 PM (bxiXv)

319 The only reason they are open is for the PO boxes....

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 25, 2012 08:03 PM (vzGrO)

320 Somebody has got to put this Craigslist car ad in the sidebar:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/2977737272.html

Posted by: AmishDude at April 25, 2012 08:03 PM (T0NGe)

321 They have told my dad that his PO of 30+ years has already been sold. It's in La Jolla, where a lot of very more substantial people than my dad have their boxes (including, I suspect, Mitt Romney). The populace is about 5 seconds away from the proverbial pitchforks and torches. Fun stuff . .

***

Can his neighborhood opt for delivery service or will he have to travel to another PO?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:04 PM (piMMO)

322

"Does it get any cuter than Kindergarten?!"

A two-speckled pup?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 25, 2012 08:04 PM (vzGrO)

323 Somebody has got to put this Craigslist car ad in the sidebar:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/2977737272.html

Posted by: AmishDude at April 26, 2012 12:03 AM (T0NGe)

"This post has been flagged for removal."

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 25, 2012 08:04 PM (yh0zB)

324 It is right there in the title I suppose, but I didn't read the title

Heh, i didn't either, not real observant tonight.

Posted by: booger at April 25, 2012 08:05 PM (HI6wa)

325 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/stagerightshow
Come on over for Stage Right Larry O'Connor's last scheduled Late Night edition of The Larry O'Connor Show! He's moving to 4-6pm next week, really awesome show!

Posted by: njlibertarian at April 25, 2012 08:06 PM (R79sT)

326 I see the Moron Horde was well represented in Iowahawk's annual Erf Day celebration. Nicely done! I'll have to put my car in there next year.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 25, 2012 08:06 PM (yh0zB)

327

That's an extremely limited view of warfare. It's almost insulted at the suggestion I was thinking of them marching up to the capital city in a line like Redcoats.

But that's exactly how Cortez & Co. approached the capital city. Read Prescott on this. They marched right up to Tenochtitlan and told Montezuma to mow their lawn. If the Aztecs had rushed the Spaniards, they would have lost at most maybe a thousand guys.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 25, 2012 08:06 PM (0BR8F)

328 I went to Velcro shoes. How the fuck do I outfit them with this paracord stuff?

Posted by: The littl shyning man at April 25, 2012 08:06 PM (ybkwK)

329 If the Aztecs hadn't made enemies of every surrounding tribe, Cortes would have died an early death. The Tlaxcallens (sp?) hated the Aztecs with a fury and even appalled the Spaniards with their bloodthirst. Tens of Thousands aided Cortes.

Posted by: Cicero at April 25, 2012 08:07 PM (E99n6)

330 I see the Moron Horde was well represented in Iowahawk's annual Erf Day celebration. Nicely done! I'll have to put my car in there next year.

***

Did you see the mess left behind by the Gaia worshipers?

http://bit.ly/I7B5UB

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:08 PM (piMMO)

331 Oh for God's sake... Indiana Jones 5 (????) http://tinyurl.com/o6emo9 20 bucks says that if this abomination ever reaches the screen, Shia La'ButtFuc becomes the new Indy.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 08:08 PM (RvlzX)

332 Can his neighborhood opt for delivery service or will he have to travel to another PO?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 12:04 AM (piMMO)

He's got a mailbox. And I'm pretty sure none of the other box-holders are living on the street. They just are not the kind of people who care to have their home addresses out there. It's a shitstorm in the making, lol! And an absolutely gorgeous little building on some very (VERY) prime real estate.

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 08:08 PM (lJ2es)

333 Cartman: Love is like taking a dump. Sometimes it just works out, but other times you have to give it a hard, slimy push.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:09 PM (piMMO)

334 Three-hundred sixty!!! Oh, criminy!

Posted by: cthulhu at April 25, 2012 08:10 PM (kaalw)

335

The key question for our time-travelling conquistadors is have they had all their shots? Smallpox and influenza left mesoamerican civilization in ruins not long after they were introduced on a population lacking immunity to the pathogens. Marines are smallpox free of course, but some nasty bugs could still do some damage.

Posted by: Tad Blatherton at April 25, 2012 08:10 PM (HueOF)

336 Did you see the mess left behind by the Gaia worshipers?

http://bit.ly/I7B5UB

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 12:08 AM (piMMO)

This is my shocked face: 8-O

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 25, 2012 08:10 PM (yh0zB)

337 How's your health?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:57 PM (bxiXv)

Same. Better sometimes, worse sometimes. No rhyme, no reason.

I just dislike ignorant people who take the "just push through it!" or "deal with it!" tack. A friend was saying a similar thing last week... pooh-poohing one of his friends who has Celiacs and saying it was bullshit.

It'd be nice if, just once, people realized that not all "picky eaters" choose their picky-ness. And asking people with allergies or intolerances to become shut-ins just because they're different...

I'm glad we have friends who understand food issues and also have restaurants to go to that have really sweet staff who want to make sure their customers are ok.

It's not fun to deal with shit from people who act like you prevent them from enjoying things, either... but that's another story.

Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at April 25, 2012 08:11 PM (NJpM7)

338 so Wednesday morning was interesting for the esport scene as MKP played like crap in his group letting Parting get the win and then being completely outclassed by TaeJa. Awesome to have another Team Liquid member in the Ro8 but it means that a season 2 final really will end up being PvP which is frankly boring.

The bigger of the news comes out of The Champions League of Legends tourney as CLG.NA (one of the best western teams) got embarrassed by a Korean b team. On one hand, it's always fun to to see them lose as they're some of the biggest douchebags around (and their post loss meltdowns are always fun to watch) but it also means that the Korean take-over is almost complete with only having Korea beat M5 left to happen.

Posted by: The Dude at April 25, 2012 08:11 PM (M8yfa)

339 Better link for the Craigslist ad:

http://tinyurl.com/6mutblf

Posted by: AmishDude at April 25, 2012 08:11 PM (T0NGe)

340 helofixer: you in the GOM? My robbie-ranger buddies you went to fly there are on those fucked up schedules.

Posted by: Whisker Biscuit at April 25, 2012 08:11 PM (0q9bg)

341 Ok, on the food thing. I have two grills. One I that sits on the deck and is used for everyday use. I have a second in the basement that is a "kosher" grill. The only thing I have ever prepared on this grill is kosher food. I have an entire set of utensils and serving dishes that are used for only kosher meals, and I consulted a rabbi to make certain that it meets the highest standards of the kashrut. I did this originally because I have some friends who live out of town who are Jewish, and while they themselves are not that observant many members of their family do follow the dietary laws. Since I've hosted some get together's and had people in attendance who only eat kosher, as the host it was incumbent on me to provide food they could eat. I do the same for anyone that I invite to the house, I make sure if they have any food allergy's that I don't serve something that they can't eat or offer them an alternative. I've always considered that the duty of the host. Not sure how others feel on the subject. But as a host I'm not offended if people decline to eat certain things. I am not their parents, it's not up to me to tell them what they should and should not eat.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 08:12 PM (R5yLq)

342 This is my shocked face: 8-O Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 26, 2012 12:10 AM (yh0zB) I join you in your shocked face. 8-0

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 25, 2012 08:12 PM (DGIjM)

343 357 Did you see the mess left behind by the Gaia worshipers?

http://bit.ly/I7B5UB

That was not from Earth Day! It was from the joyous celebration of Lenin's birthday, which just happens to be on the same day!

Posted by: Outraged Hippie at April 25, 2012 08:13 PM (2IW5Q)

344 Better link for the Craigslist ad:

http://tinyurl.com/6mutblf

*****

It won't let me see the entire ad, but what I can see is funny as all get out.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:15 PM (piMMO)

345 Did you see the mess left behind by the Gaia worshipers? http://bit.ly/I7B5UB Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 12:08 AM (piMMO) So that's where recycled paper comes from! Yikes.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 08:15 PM (R5yLq)

346 That was not from Earth Day! It was from the joyous celebration of Lenin's birthday, which just happens to be on the same day!

****

Heh. I stand corrected!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:16 PM (piMMO)

347 LOL!!! I think that Gaia is simply recoiling from her touch . .

****

And who can blame Gaia? I admit I'd do the same!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:17 PM (piMMO)

348 Better link for the Craigslist ad:

http://tinyurl.com/6mutblf

Posted by: AmishDude at April 26, 2012 12:11 AM (T0NGe)

OMFG!!! I MUST HAVE THIS CAR!!!

oh...wait...

http://lastrefugeofascoundrel.blogspot.com/search?q=TDP

Yes boys and girls, except for the V6, manual, fancy wheels and spoiler that is the spitting image of That Damn Pontiac, even the paint color. And I really hate that fucking car.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 25, 2012 08:18 PM (yh0zB)

349 {{soulpile}} Same. Better sometimes, worse sometimes. No rhyme, no reason. Sympatico. I just dislike ignorant people who take the "just push through it!" or "deal with it!" tack. I've been pretty lucky with my family and the few friends I have left recently. But it's a small circle, and that alone is not very healthy. A friend was saying a similar thing last week... pooh-poohing one of his friends who has Celiacs and saying it was bullshit. Tell them to drink a cup of Drano. All those warnings are just bullshit. Then punch them. I'm glad we have friends who understand food issues and also have restaurants to go to that have really sweet staff who want to make sure their customers are ok. I am too, my friends are good. I decided recently it's not worth trusting restaurants, *most* of my family seems to understand, but it's still hard getting them to even *tell* me when they're going so I don't miss out on *them* just because I can;t have the food. My parents understand, everyone else... meh. It's not fun to deal with shit from people who act like you prevent them from enjoying things, either... but that's another story. Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at April 26, 2012 12:11 AM (NJpM7) I basically have to start over from the beginning because of the last two years. I am *so* right there with you, even though our situations are not the same. This is the third time for me, actually. It's a long and boring story. I still don't have your answer but I may have someone to ask or at least get a lead from. I have my notes about your condition and I'll take them with me.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 08:18 PM (bxiXv)

350 372 Better link for the Craigslist ad:

http://tinyurl.com/6mutblf

*****

It won't let me see the entire ad, but what I can see is funny as all get out.

Ah, shit, I finally looked at that. My neighbors have probably already called the cops, I was screaming so hard with laughter. Hard to breathe . . .

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 08:18 PM (lJ2es)

351 20 bucks says that if this abomination ever reaches the screen, Shia La'ButtFuc becomes the new Indy.

Yeah, he'll be the new Indy, i'm just surprised they're going ahead with another one after the last one was universally trashed.

Posted by: booger at April 25, 2012 08:18 PM (HI6wa)

352 Oh for God's sake...

Indiana Jones 5 (????)

http://tinyurl.com/o6emo9

Noooooooooo

/Vader howl off

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 25, 2012 08:18 PM (fC5JW)

353 Regarding the lefties and their disregard for picking up after themselves, I have been trying to find a picture I thought I'd saved to my comp. with 2 pictures side by side, 1 taken after a Tea Party rally in DC and 1 taken after the Jon Stewart and whoever the eff else it was in DC, for a reply to some @sshole on Twitter. Probably a good thing I couldn't find it.

Posted by: Theresa at April 25, 2012 08:19 PM (Cf5RM)

354 The post office has several significant fiscal problems. 1. Price of gas, Congress won't let them hedge. 2. When they do have a surplus, and they have, Congress takes it. 3. Congress screws with their retirement, right now I thought I saw they were overpaying by billions into the system. 4. Congress forces them to keep open post offices and service levels that are not economic. 5. Horrific line management. 6. Pension and retiree health benefits. For the size of the operation it is surprising they aren't in worse shape. We blew 2.5B on a couple of hundred solar jobs for some perspective. I think they could be ok if fuel prices drop and they can get Congress to let them close offices and reduce certain services.

Posted by: Jean at April 25, 2012 08:19 PM (pawS5)

355 I just dislike ignorant people who take the "just push through it!" or "deal with it!" tack.

It might do you a world of good to push your fist through their nasal cartilage, soulpile. Of course, I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on tv.

Prayers up . . .

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 08:21 PM (lJ2es)

356 He also eats Wookie vag.

That's no vag, Whisker...

Posted by: "Michelle" Obama at April 25, 2012 08:21 PM (Pf662)

357 I've always considered that the duty of the host. Not sure how others feel on the subject. But as a host I'm not offended if people decline to eat certain things. I am not their parents, it's not up to me to tell them what they should and should not eat.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 26, 2012 12:12 AM (R5yLq)

I just want to thank you for that attitude. It's apparently rare nowadays.

As a host, I do the same. While I, sadly, cannot eat beef, I willingly cook it for anyone who visits and wants it.

Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at April 25, 2012 08:22 PM (NJpM7)

358 Ah, shit, I finally looked at that. My neighbors have probably already called the cops, I was screaming so hard with laughter. Hard to breathe . . . Yup.. the laughter was off the charts here too. I don't know who came up with that ad but it was a masterpiece. I have little doubt that car will get sold quick even if it is a POS, just from someone that got such a good chuckle out of the ad.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 08:22 PM (R5yLq)

359

I eat crack cocaine

feed me SoS

Posted by: King Putz at April 25, 2012 08:23 PM (UXEgP)

360 /Vader howl off

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 26, 2012 12:18 AM (fC5JW)

I'm curious if they could do something that is any worse that Crystal Skulls

Posted by: The Dude at April 25, 2012 08:23 PM (M8yfa)

361 I've always considered that the duty of the host. Not sure how others feel on the subject. But as a host I'm not offended if people decline to eat certain things. I am not their parents, it's not up to me to tell them what they should and should not eat. Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 26, 2012 12:12 AM (R5yLq) You are rarer than you know. To a certain extent it is generational and regional, even "class-driven."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 08:23 PM (bxiXv)

362 Sell the car? I hope somebody offers that talented bastid a job . . . which might actually be the point of the whole thing. Damn, that's funny.

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 08:23 PM (lJ2es)

363 Oh for God's sake...

Indiana Jones 5 (????)

****

Let me guess before I check out the link.

It will go something like this: Due to AGW a long-lost artifact which has been frozen in deep ice has been thawed. Indy must get to it before the evil AGW deniers who want to hide the truth of the melting glaciers.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:24 PM (piMMO)

364 http://tinyurl.com/6mutblf

*****

Ah, shit, I finally looked at that. My neighbors have probably already called the cops, I was screaming so hard with laughter. Hard to breathe . . .

Posted by: Peaches at April 26, 2012 12:18 AM (lJ2es)

Right? RIGHT? I was crying.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 25, 2012 08:24 PM (T0NGe)

365 I like Indiana Jones...Why do you not like it Waterhouse?

Posted by: BigBird at April 25, 2012 08:25 PM (lkdo/)

366 @Shyning man...I went to velcro shoes too

Posted by: BigBird at April 25, 2012 08:27 PM (lkdo/)

367 >>>I'm curious if they could do something that is any worse that Crystal Skulls Don't tempt them. There are probably a plethora of even worse movie script drafts for both Indy 4 and 5 somewhere in George Lucas' ranch.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 25, 2012 08:27 PM (RvlzX)

368 @368 yep I am in the GOM. Anally raping gaia going on 23 years. Oil and gas exploitation er em exploration and any other helicopter need your heart might desire including dropping rose petals on a wedding party. You got the cash, we got the time.

Posted by: helofixer at April 25, 2012 08:27 PM (KexGz)

369 I just sent the car ad link to Ace. We know he'll never see it otherwise, but can't you guys just picture him behind the wheel of that chick-magnet?

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 08:27 PM (lJ2es)

370 Hey..the Star Trek movie series continued for awhile..Why not Indy?

Posted by: BigBird at April 25, 2012 08:28 PM (lkdo/)

371 I just dislike ignorant people who take the "just push through it!" or "deal with it!" tack.

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It might do you a world of good to push your fist through their nasal cartilage, soulpile. Of course, I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on tv.

*****

I met with my therapist for the first time yesterday. I am a heart failure patient and experience some of the same things you do. If our arms were broken and we were wearing casts, or if we had cancer and our hair had fallen out, people could see it. As it is, since we're not bleeding from our ears people just don't get it.

It makes me wanna pop people in the nose.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:28 PM (piMMO)

372 Harrison Ford, Shia La'Buttfuc starring in --

Indiana Jones and the Nursing Home of Doom: Kingdom of the Crystal Kidney Stones

Posted by: Movie Preview Guy at April 25, 2012 08:29 PM (r98n4)

373 Hey..the Star Trek movie series continued for awhile..Why not Indy?

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DID YOU NOT SEE THE LAST ONE?!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:29 PM (piMMO)

374 Every owner has had a beard? hilarious.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 25, 2012 08:29 PM (DGIjM)

375 My buddy had a luxury car...the hot chicks still went for the jocks and hot guys.

Posted by: BigBird at April 25, 2012 08:29 PM (lkdo/)

376 Don't tempt them. There are probably a plethora of even worse movie script drafts for both Indy 4 and 5 somewhere in George Lucas' ranch.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 26, 2012 12:27 AM (RvlzX)

I will give credit to Spielberg as at least he understands why people hated Crystal Skulls though

Posted by: The Dude at April 25, 2012 08:30 PM (M8yfa)

377 hhaha..that was funny movie preview guy

Posted by: BigBird at April 25, 2012 08:30 PM (lkdo/)

378 any other helicopter need your heart might desire including dropping rose petals on a wedding party

That sounds pretty neat.

Posted by: Theresa at April 25, 2012 08:30 PM (Cf5RM)

379 I like Indiana Jones...Why do you not like it Waterhouse?

Posted by: BigBird at April 26, 2012 12:25 AM (lkdo/)

The first one was good.

The second one was a miserable pile of suck and fail.

The third one was OK, made even more OK by the appearance of Sean Connery who can make almost any movie better.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/

What, I said almost.

The fourth one plumbed new levels of suckery that up to that time had rarely been plumbed by modern man. The only reason the plumbing exists at that level of suckitude is...that's where the exit is.

The fifth, presumably, will dive even lower into the suckery, down to pure fucking evil. And once again, Lucas destroys any fond memories I may have once had about his movies.

The end.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 25, 2012 08:30 PM (yh0zB)

380 SIGH.

The Post Office doesn't take your tax dollar. They operate on the money they make providing you a service.

Posted by: Carl Marks Burgers & Fries at April 25, 2012 11:27 PM (y4J7O)

Does the USPS pay property taxes? NO. Does the USPS have to license their vehicles? NO. Does the USPS pay sales taxes in the localities they operate in? NO. Does the USPS have to get their vehicles inspected by other government agencies? NO.

Since the answer to these questions is NO, the USPS does take money out of my pocket to fund itself.

On the day I mailed my taxes, the union bastards at the post office were coming up to cars that were dropping off their returns trying to get them to save their jobs. Right after I dropped off a fucking check to the government, these bastards walked up to me on FEDERAL PROPERTY to try to get me to support them.

The day the Post Office pays all the taxes that FedEx and UPS pay, then I MIGHT feel for them, but until then you and your union scum brothers can lick my bag.

Posted by: MrCaniac at April 25, 2012 08:31 PM (FoNan)

381 I'm curious if they could do something that is any worse that Crystal Skulls

That one should really be called Plexiglass Skull With Some Aluminum Foil Stuffed Inside, worst fx evah.

Posted by: booger at April 25, 2012 08:31 PM (HI6wa)

382 What, I said almost.
The fourth one plumbed new levels of suckery that up to that time had rarely been plumbed by modern man. The only reason the plumbing exists at that level of suckitude is...that's where the exit is.

****

South Park dedicated an entire episode to the rape of Indiana Jones by Lucas and Spielberg.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:32 PM (piMMO)

383 Hey..the Star Trek movie series continued for awhile..Why not Indy?

Posted by: BigBird at April 26, 2012 12:28 AM (lkdo/)

every other Trek film is good while the last good Indy flick is over 20 years old (or almost 30 years if you didn't like Last Crusade)

Posted by: The Dude at April 25, 2012 08:32 PM (M8yfa)

384 The USPS is dead. No future. They had a good ride though.

Posted by: BigBird at April 25, 2012 08:32 PM (lkdo/)

385 Craigslist ad got pulled.

Posted by: WTF at April 25, 2012 08:32 PM (mxnUd)

386 Tell them to drink a cup of Drano. All those warnings are just bullshit.

Then punch them.
...
I am too, my friends are good. I decided recently it's not worth trusting restaurants, *most* of my family seems to understand, but it's still hard getting them to even *tell* me when they're going so I don't miss out on *them* just because I can;t have the food. My parents understand, everyone else... meh.
...
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 12:18 AM (bxiXv)

-Ha! I should... but close family friend, pigheaded... it's just a bowl of prickly pears that shouldn't be touched.

-That's a very familiar situation.

-I'm supposed to go to a gastro sometime, but it's difficult finding the time to even consider it. Especially since I don't trust docs farther than I can spit. Not sure what I could tell them, anyway. Starting over, yet again. It's a little easier coping, though. Not /as/ disruptive as it used to be. At least, mentally. Haha.

Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at April 25, 2012 08:33 PM (NJpM7)

387 I am a heart failure patient and experience some of the same things you do. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 12:28 AM (piMMO) Yep, if you can't see the problem, people assume you're fine. I hope you're not having the reaction to the heart drugs I do, though. That's a bigger problem than my heart these days.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 08:33 PM (bxiXv)

388 I wonder what type of car Spock would drive?

Posted by: BigBird at April 25, 2012 08:33 PM (lkdo/)

389 I'm up to 160 -- don't worry, guys, I'll.....WTF? WTFF? You moved the goalposts to 409? You bastards! Your rotten, lousy, scumsucking BASTARDS. I'm doing my best to get caught up with the latest memes and themes, and here you go and slam another 50 on me while my back is turned.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 25, 2012 08:34 PM (kaalw)

390 That one should really be called Plexiglass Skull With Some Aluminum Foil Stuffed Inside, worst fx evah.

Posted by: booger at April 26, 2012 12:31 AM (HI6wa)

sad part is the crystal skulls are real and they really do have a cool mystery wrapped around them

Posted by: The Dude at April 25, 2012 08:34 PM (M8yfa)

391 Why don't you trust docs soulpie? They have a lot of training.

Posted by: BigBird at April 25, 2012 08:35 PM (lkdo/)

392 South Park dedicated an entire episode to the rape of Indiana Jones by Lucas and Spielberg.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 12:32 AM (piMMO)

And shooting people in the dick.

Posted by: buzzion at April 25, 2012 08:35 PM (GULKT)

393 Not too many good movies anymore

Posted by: BigBird at April 25, 2012 08:35 PM (lkdo/)

394 South Park dedicated an entire episode to the rape of Indiana Jones by Lucas and Spielberg.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 12:32 AM (piMMO)

And shooting people in the dick.

Posted by: buzzion at April 26, 2012 12:35 AM (GULKT)

I'm still trying to get Jackin' It out of my head...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 25, 2012 08:36 PM (yh0zB)

395 The USPS does face declining usage as a factor in their money woes but the main problem is that they are the largest governmental example of EOE.

Too many neer do wells that think they're owed a living but fail to exert the effort and lack the intelligence to understand that they are working for their customers.

I have never seen any large city post office where a large percent of the employees are slackers and belligerent.

Only in smaller towns and cities do you find personnel who have a work ethic and are grateful for the opportunity.

One of the reasons for our failing government agencies is EOE.

Too many are given a job that is difficult to lose who then proceed to do as little as possible either through a sense of entitlement or just plain dumb ignorance.

Cut the Saturday delivery (that's overtime btw) and start eliminating those who can't or won't work.

Win.

Posted by: Bitter clinger and all that at April 25, 2012 08:36 PM (CP+yl)

396 Starting over, yet again. It's a little easier coping, though. Not /as/ disruptive as it used to be. At least, mentally. Haha. Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at April 26, 2012 12:33 AM (NJpM7) Well, I am glad to hear that. It's something. At least we have the chance to commiserate.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 08:36 PM (bxiXv)

397 Did you all see the manure spreader ad on Craigslist? (Maybe I saw that on here)

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 25, 2012 08:36 PM (DGIjM)

398 MURKOWSKI | SNOWE 2012

Posted by: give me touch at April 25, 2012 08:36 PM (xXhWA)

399 sad part is the crystal skulls are real and they really do have a cool mystery wrapped around them

Posted by: The Dude at April 26, 2012 12:34 AM (M8yfa)

You mean fake mystery. They're a bunch of 19th century European manufactured artwork that people claim are actually from older civilizations.

Posted by: buzzion at April 25, 2012 08:37 PM (GULKT)

400 I hope you're not having the reaction to the heart drugs I do, though. That's a bigger problem than my heart these days.

****

I've been on Coreg, Digoxin, and Lasix for three years now. Although I am supposed to take the Coreg twice a day, I only take it once a day because it makes me sleepy. I also take a handful of required supplements every day and, although my arteries are clean, I take Lipitor because I have genetically high cholesterol.

My cardiologist made me go see a psychiatrist and a therapist and now I'm on Klonopin, Zoloft, and Trazadone which zap my energy (not that I had much to begin with).

What problems are you having?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:38 PM (piMMO)

401 A good friend of mine, who has since passed away, was diagnosed with breast cancer. As she was leaving the doctor's office after hearing the diagnosis she happened to pass by a man she didn't know, and as you can imagine, she wasn't smiling since she'd received quite a bad diagnosis, they said something along the lines of "C'mon, smile, it can't be that bad!" This very mild-mannered friend said she wanted to kick the guy in the crotch.

Her retelling that story has always stuck with me. You don't know what anybody you may see may be going through.

Posted by: Theresa at April 25, 2012 08:38 PM (Cf5RM)

402 413 Craigslist ad got pulled.

Posted by: WTF at April 26, 2012 12:32 AM (mxnUd)

The last link posted was a screen grab on some torque blog. It truly deserves eternal life on teh interwebs. I've already emailed it to several people. Here ya go:

http://tinyurl.com/6mutblf

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 08:38 PM (lJ2es)

403 Hey everyone, how we doin' tonight? Gonna do work stuff and read the thread and your comments... carry on, I'll catch up

Posted by: zeera at April 25, 2012 08:39 PM (XtxRN)

404 I'm still trying to get Jackin' It out of my head...

****

Now why would you wanna do that? It's funny as hell.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:40 PM (piMMO)

405 How old are you Niedermeyer?

Posted by: BigBird at April 25, 2012 08:40 PM (lkdo/)

406 If our arms were broken and we were wearing casts, or if we had cancer and our hair had fallen out, people could see it. As it is, since we're not bleeding from our ears people just don't get it.

It makes me wanna pop people in the nose.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 12:28 AM (piMMO)

as a person with lupus and epilepsy i have the same problem. PLUS "pilepsy either scares people and they dont want to work with you because they are afraid you will fall over flopping without warning, or they cant see anything wrong and just blow it all off. (so annoying) Again they treat you like your efforts to keep yourself well and functioning are you just trying to act special or be difficult, or control situations.

like its FUN or something.

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 25, 2012 08:40 PM (r7Ddb)

407 Her retelling that story has always stuck with me. You don't know what anybody you may see may be going through. Posted by: Theresa at April 26, 2012 12:38 AM (Cf5RM) amen.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 25, 2012 08:41 PM (DGIjM)

408 You mean fake mystery. They're a bunch of 19th centuryEuropean manufactured artwork that people claim are actually from older civilizations.

Posted by: buzzion at April 26, 2012 12:37 AM (GULKT)

not talking about those but the real tiny ones that were inlayed with turquoise

Posted by: The Dude at April 25, 2012 08:41 PM (M8yfa)

409 Her retelling that story has always stuck with me. You don't know what anybody you may see may be going through.

***

No, you don't. And people don't stop long enough to think about it either.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:41 PM (piMMO)

410 421 Not too many good movies anymore

Cabin in the Woods is supposed to be good, think Ace gave it a good review too, thinking about checking it out this weekend.

Posted by: booger at April 25, 2012 08:42 PM (HI6wa)

411 Bitter Clinger. I have worked for large and small companies. I found that the larger the job/company...the more slacking that happenes. Big companies have delays over everything. Small companies cannot afford it.

Posted by: BigBird at April 25, 2012 08:42 PM (lkdo/)

412 "for a millenia..."? ...seriously?

Posted by: jimi ray at April 25, 2012 08:42 PM (FcOR4)

413 Posted by: Theresa at April 26, 2012 12:38 AM (Cf5RM)

Jeez, Theresa, it makes me wish I could kick him in the 'nads. We need to dial back to a world where random strangers think twice before getting up in anyone's business like that. It's annoying at best and devastating at worst.

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 08:43 PM (lJ2es)

414 as a person with lupus and epilepsy i have the same problem. PLUS "pilepsy either scares people and they dont want to work with you because they are afraid you will fall over flopping without warning, or they cant see anything wrong and just blow it all off. (so annoying) Again they treat you like your efforts to keep yourself well and functioning are you just trying to act special or be difficult, or control situations.like its FUN or something.

****

Bless your heart. And, I bet you're right. There probably is something of a stigma attached to Epilepsy that isn't deserved. Is your epilepsy under control?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:43 PM (piMMO)

415 My buddy was diagnosed with HIV

Posted by: BigBird at April 25, 2012 08:43 PM (lkdo/)

416 401 Hey..the Star Trek movie series continued for awhile..Why not Indy?

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DID YOU NOT SEE THE LAST ONE?!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 12:29 AM (piMMO)

Here's Plinkett's take on Indy 4:

http://tinyurl.com/c6qfvex

Posted by: AmishDude at April 25, 2012 08:44 PM (T0NGe)

417 Atlas Shrugged Part II is a go, according to Reason. The entire cast will be new faces though.

That sounds kinda risky as a profit making decision to me.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 25, 2012 08:44 PM (ccXZP)

418 Not too many good movies anymore

Posted by: BigBird at April 26, 2012 12:35 AM (lkdo/)

as long as you stay away from the multiplex, there has been a shit load of great flicks that have come out lately

Posted by: The Dude at April 25, 2012 08:44 PM (M8yfa)

419 What problems are you having? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 12:38 AM (piMMO) Too many to list. Fatigue, memory issues, insomnia, uncharacteristic joint pain, gout in addition to joint pain (caused by diuretics), dizziness, vision problems, weird aggravation episodes, adrenaline storms... the Spironolactone makes my nipples hurt, WTF is up with that? People have different reactions, but I'm taking three times as much Coreg as you are (assuming doses here), and it wrecks me.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 08:44 PM (bxiXv)

420 443 My buddy was diagnosed with HIV
Posted by: BigBird at April 26, 2012 12:43 AM (lkdo/)

I see Mr. uhPd1 has rejoined us.

Posted by: Mætenloch at April 25, 2012 08:45 PM (+B3Nr)

421 21 I'm listening on the radio like it's the 1950's.
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Hockey is FANTASTIC on the radio. Those guys know how to call a game.

///
They have to -- it's hockey. I was a huge Caps fan in the early 80's and used to listen to their West coast road games on the radio on school nights (while supposedly asleep). Games were great to listen to and I had never even been to a game until '85.

Posted by: SFGoth at April 25, 2012 08:45 PM (evRwp)

422 That sounds kinda risky as a profit making decision to me.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 26, 2012 12:44 AM (ccXZP)

rather have a new Indy film than a second Atlas Shrugged

Posted by: The Dude at April 25, 2012 08:45 PM (M8yfa)

423 Okay, I was working my way up to sniveling about the difficulties of administering asthma inhalers to a kitteh, but this pales in comparison to the very real travails of some of our beloved morons.

So, I'm just gonna wish everyone a pleasant rest of the evening and hit the sack. God bless, kids . . . love y'all.

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2012 08:46 PM (lJ2es)

424 as a person with lupus and epilepsy i have the same problem. Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 26, 2012 12:40 AM (r7Ddb) First of all, GUSHIE! I was brain-fried today and did not remember to call the doc's secretary, she of course did not call me. (whack whack whack) Secondly, isn't it great to be *different!?!?* O.o

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 08:47 PM (bxiXv)

425
Here's Plinkett's take on Indy 4:http://tinyurl.com/c6qfvex

****

Succinct, isn't he?

Wait. Did he just say epi-tome? the second review is cracking me up!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:48 PM (piMMO)

426 Soulpile i dont trust docs either and what i have seen bears this out. Though i have met some Docs worthy of trust, when i deal with others outside that group, i dont hesitate to drop them if i dont like them. One strike and youre out.

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 25, 2012 08:49 PM (r7Ddb)

427 Jeez, Theresa, it makes me wish I could kick him in the 'nads. We need to dial back to a world where random strangers think twice before getting up in anyone's business like that. It's annoying at best and devastating at worst. Posted by: Peaches at April 26, 2012 12:43 AM (lJ2es) There are not many *worse* places to pull the "cheer up, selfish grumpy face" routine than a doctor's office. Maybe a police station or funeral home. Maybe.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 08:49 PM (bxiXv)

428 I haven't been celebrating my birthday (April 24) for over a decade, because I simply didn't feel the need to acknowledge it anymore.

However, I think treating it as a day to remember the troops of Operation Eagle Claw would be a good way to make the day special.

On a different note, I deeply apologize for the hopeless love that I feel for that Star Wars music video. It is possible that a high-frequency "squee" might have escaped my lips. Either that or the dogs both jumped from simultaneous nightmares to full alertness.

Posted by: Feynmangroupie at April 25, 2012 08:50 PM (oI744)

429 Oh look, uhpd1 figured out how to change its hash. Cute. Also, by the number of posts, he found out about meth, too.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 08:50 PM (I/cLr)

430 Merovign: Read the sheet that came with the spiro. If it was prescribed as a diuretic, check to see if you really need it, as spiro has other uses ...

Posted by: Arbalest at April 25, 2012 08:51 PM (eFLPk)

431 445 Atlas Shrugged Part II is a go, according to Reason. The entire cast will be new faces though.

I enjoyed the first one more than most people did, but i'm hoping the second is better.

Posted by: booger at April 25, 2012 08:51 PM (HI6wa)

432 As always, Maet is faster than I. Just put it out of its misery, already. Before we have to read through 75 four word posts about....well, who the hell knows what it's talking about.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 08:52 PM (I/cLr)

433 I just want to thank you for that attitude. It's apparently rare nowadays.As a host, I do the same. While I, sadly, cannot eat beef, I willingly cook it for anyone who visits and wants it. My thoughts exactly. I try to make sure if I'm having new people over I find out what types of food they enjoy and plan accordingly. Though I must admit I don't have a lot of vegetarian friends but I have a few that don't eat red meat. So when they come over I make sure I have dishes that they can enjoy. For me that was always part of being a good host.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 08:52 PM (R5yLq)

434
Too many to list. Fatigue, memory issues, insomnia, uncharacteristic joint pain, gout in addition to joint pain (caused by diuretics), dizziness, vision problems, weird aggravation episodes, adrenaline storms... the Spironolactone makes my nipples hurt, WTF is up with that?

People have different reactions, but I'm taking three times as much Coreg as you are (assuming doses here), and it wrecks me.

****

Damn! I'm sorry to hear that. And what is the Spironolactone for?

Do you have a device?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:53 PM (piMMO)

435 "for a millenia..."?

Hah, I noticed that too ... I was puzzled until I realized it's not a real trailer for the actual movie, it's one made by reddit members for the reddit thread/ page/ whateverIdon'tknowhowredditworks, so it was probably cobbled together pretty quickly by mostly-drunk yoots with Internet-level language skills.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 25, 2012 08:53 PM (fC5JW)

436 IIRC, spirinolactone can screw with the sex hormones due to effects on normal electrolyte metabolism and other adrenal hormones, and side effects can include gynecomastia--IIRC.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 25, 2012 08:53 PM (1zwZo)

437 "I feel very conflicted when I encounter a gluten-intolerant person." Heh. Fanatics confuse the issues. True gluten-intolerant folks don't need to project their problems on you. But it is a problem. Like salt, peanuts, or MSG, gluten is everywhere, added for its glue-iness, mostly. That's the same factor that supposedly debilitates intestinal celia in those who are susceptible. I'm old enough to remember when everything was heavily salted. A generation of food naziism later, it got so you couldn't taste anything in a restaurant. Works for me, since I just grab the salt shaker and add as much as I want, but such changes should percolate from expressed customer preference, and food providers' response, not Big Nan! I feel bad for all the people who think they have to "watch their salt intake" when they are probably not getting enough! Mark Twain: Beware of reading health books; you may die of a mistpring. So, the Mrs was really gluten-intol. She baked such great wheat breads & everything, too! This was before we could get glu-free bread in the local grocery like today. What could we do? We had to make major changes. Since she's the world's greatest cook, we just had great non-gluten breads & everything. And she'd sneak her own bread into restaurants and relatives' dinner tables. We not only adjusted, we found right away that we liked her non-gluten baking better, generally, than wheat (YMMV). Wheat is to the universe of flours as iceberg lettuce is to the universe of vegetables. So the upshot is, you all have to eat exactly as we do just so that we can go out to eat and confidently order pasta and bread, knowing it's gluten-free. Say what? Whattaya mean, you don't have any salt here? (Actually, we still avoid baking with wheat, but the doc says she's cured of the g-i blues. Therein lies a story.) Another long drive-by commenting dump. I'm missing all the fun! Darn that real life....

Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at April 25, 2012 08:53 PM (lBpVP)

438 Ok, that's it for me. Night all.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2012 08:54 PM (I/cLr)

439 Secondly, isn't it great to be *different!?!?* O.o

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 12:47 AM (bxiXv)

oh yeah. different's a blast. (NOT!) till you meet the gems that like different

but it sure does make interacting with the folks who just float through life a challenge because it makes simple situations ones where i feel defensive. I dont even bother with thoughts like "i should socialize more" or "I should have more friends" i just do what i do and be glad. I guess its kinda cool i have some pals who refuse to let me be a shut in, and we throw great parties at the farm, because Grim likes to entertain. But when you throw the party you can have it in the evening when its cool and provide a menu that makes nobody sick and suits the crowd. Like SoS we like to make our guests comfortable by offering things they want and can have.

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 25, 2012 08:54 PM (r7Ddb)

440 459 booger (and Dude),

here's the Reason link:

http://tinyurl.com/7nhnp2p

The article is titled 'On the set of Atlas Shrugged II' if you want more details.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 25, 2012 08:55 PM (ccXZP)

441 Nevermind the question about the Spironolatone. Are you taking potassium supplements to offset the diuretic? Have you tried Lasix instead?

It is very easy to take.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:55 PM (piMMO)

442 Indy 4 should've been based on the "Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis" game.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 25, 2012 08:55 PM (fC5JW)

443 *Whoo!* *Whoo!* *pant* *pant*

Jus' roundin' 250......*gasp* *gasp* Only another 159 to......oh, blow me.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 25, 2012 08:56 PM (kaalw)

444 I enjoyed the first one more than most people did, but i'm hoping the second is better. Posted by: booger at April 26, 2012 12:51 AM (HI6wa) I loved the movie myself. While I did enjoy the book honestly I thought the book bogged down in parts. The movie I thought covered most of the salient point's wonderfully without a lot of the extraneous details in the book. That is unusual for me, normally I find the books much better than the movies. I think a lot of that is in the book I get a much better feel for the characters because I know what they are thinking. But this was a rare exception for me so I'm really looking forward to part II, even if it is recast.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 08:56 PM (R5yLq)

445 458 Merovign: Read the sheet that came with the spiro. If it was prescribed as a diuretic, check to see if you really need it, asspiro has other uses ... Posted by: Arbalest at April 26, 2012 12:51 AM (eFLPk) I think they did it to make my nipples hurt, because they hate me. Actually it's there as an aldosterone blocker because statistically combining an ACE inhibitor with an aldosterone blocker produces better results. They just don't give a shit if the side effects screw you up, *systemic* issues are always somebody else's problem. Namely, the patient.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 08:56 PM (bxiXv)

446

Merovign: read post #464

Posted by: Arbalest at April 25, 2012 08:57 PM (eFLPk)

447 Fish oil is good

Posted by: BigBird at April 25, 2012 08:57 PM (lkdo/)

448 Soulpile i dont trust docs either and what i have seen bears this out. Though i have met some Docs worthy of trust, when i deal with others outside that group, i dont hesitate to drop them if i dont like them. One strike and youre out.

****

I feel Blessed to have the doctors I do. It's one of the things I thank God for.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 08:57 PM (piMMO)

449 LOL DC! It's using a name it's used before, that was the clue for me even with the different hash.

I {{{heart}}} the 'rons and 'rettes. Have a great night, everyone.

Posted by: Theresa at April 25, 2012 08:58 PM (Cf5RM)

450 I pray to God he's not on spirinolactone AND potassium. I'm convicned the first patient I had die on me as an attending was because their physician had them on both--leading to toxic levels of potassium and the inevitable cardiac arrest.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 25, 2012 08:59 PM (1zwZo)

451 Yeah. I am thankful for my good docs. I have found most of them to be good. A few try to push too many pills

Posted by: BigBird at April 25, 2012 08:59 PM (lkdo/)

452 Damn! I'm sorry to hear that. And what is the Spironolactone for? Do you have a device? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 12:53 AM (piMMO) 1) Post 473. 2) No. That's also a long story, short version is no one has been able to explain why I need surgery every 7 years for the rest of my life with any actual information about *my* condition rather than statistics about people who are mostly 30 years older than I am. 464 IIRC, spirinolactone can screw with the sex hormones due to effects on normal electrolyte metabolism and other adrenal hormones, and side effects can include gynecomastia--IIRC. Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 26, 2012 12:53 AM (1zwZo) You had to bring it up, didn't you? Yes I know, if I don't get off this shit, I'm going to need a bra. Effin' doctors and their pill bottles.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 09:00 PM (bxiXv)

453 I pray to God he's not on spirinolactone AND potassium. I'm convicned the first patient I had die on me as an attending was because their physician had them on both--leading to toxic levels of potassium and the inevitable cardiac arrest.

***

I take potassium with the Lasix. I know there are different types of diuretics so his must be a very different type than mine.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 09:01 PM (piMMO)

454 Well boys and girls, it's zero one hundred out here on the east coast and I'm off to beddy bye. See you on tomorrow's ONT where maybe I'll have something intelligent to say...or not.

Goodnight roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 25, 2012 09:01 PM (yh0zB)

455 Seriously, BanHammer Time on that asshole.

Spreading lies like, "I have the HIV." More like Bert and Ernie. Or maybe Oscar, catching some infected hypo in his trash can.

Posted by: Snuffleupagus at April 25, 2012 09:01 PM (r98n4)

456 Indy 4 should've been based on the "Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis" game.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 26, 2012 12:55 AM (fC5JW)

or Infernal Machine

Posted by: The Dude at April 25, 2012 09:01 PM (M8yfa)

457 Good evening again.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 09:02 PM (4ixH5)

458 Night all!

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 25, 2012 09:02 PM (DGIjM)

459 No. That's also a long story, short version is no one has been able to explain why I need surgery every 7 years for the rest of my life with any actual information about *my* condition rather than statistics about people who are mostly 30 years older than I am.

****

If your doctor's can't explain your situation to in terms that apply to YOU, ask another doctor. What is the cause of your heart failure?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 09:03 PM (piMMO)

460 I'm going to need a bra.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 01:00 AM (bxiXv)

How YOU doin'?

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 09:03 PM (4ixH5)

461 Good ngiht, GGE.

Good ngiht, Shrimps.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 09:03 PM (4ixH5)

462 I feel Blessed to have the doctors I do. It's one of the things I thank God for.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 12:57 AM (piMMO)

i am not only lucky to have super docs, i may have been lucky enough to share one with a friend. Hopefully it works out. this man is extraordinary.

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 25, 2012 09:03 PM (r7Ddb)

463 Yeah, Lasix makes you waste potassium and sodium to flush out the excess water. Spirinolacote is a potassium-sparing diuretic, where the potassium is exchanged back into the kidney, so the worst possible thing is to take a potassium supplement, because then you have increased potassium intake with decreased potassium outflow.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 25, 2012 09:04 PM (1zwZo)

464 This is why Cooth needs to get on the Book that is a Face.

http://tinyurl.com/77hnb23

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 09:05 PM (4ixH5)

465 Yeah, Lasix makes you waste potassium and sodium to flush out the excess water. Spirinolacote is a potassium-sparing diuretic, where the potassium is exchanged back into the kidney, so the worst possible thing is to take a potassium supplement, because then you have increased potassium intake with decreased potassium outflow.

*****

Yes. Very different, indeed.

Which type is your preference?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 09:06 PM (piMMO)

466 or Infernal Machine

I never played that; it does sound like it'd be more in keeping with the Cold War theme Lucas et al decide on.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 25, 2012 09:06 PM (fC5JW)

467 Thats good gushka.

Posted by: BigBird at April 25, 2012 09:07 PM (lkdo/)

468 492 This is why Cooth needs to get on the Book that is a Face.

http://tinyurl.com/77hnb23

Posted by: Robert at April 26, 2012 01:05 AM (4ixH5)

yes. i loved finding that. i laughed really hard

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 25, 2012 09:07 PM (r7Ddb)

469 Like SoS we like to make our guests comfortable by offering things they want and can have. Well after the first Kosher get together I now have a Jewish family from upstate New York who has more or less unofficially adopted me as an extended family member. I had a buddy that had invited his family down for his daughters wedding, and while his immediate family wasn't orthodox most of his extended family was so they had some pretty special requirements. But I did get the ultimate compliment, one of the grandmothers demanded that I hand over my recipe for Kugel. Most of the prep work was pretty simple, actually the hardest part was planning a meal that included no dairy products whatsoever. The Rabbi advised me that if I was serving meat, I couldn't serve dairy, and vice versa.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 09:09 PM (R5yLq)

470 OK, I just met up with my first comment at 362....496?!?!?!?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 25, 2012 09:10 PM (kaalw)

471 469 Nevermind the question about the Spironolatone. Are you taking potassium supplements to offset the diuretic? Have you tried Lasix instead? It is very easy to take. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 12:55 AM (piMMO) Not anymore and Lasix didn't work. I dropped 40 lbs in 10 days when we switched to Bumetanide. The Lasix might as well have been sugar pills. 478 I pray to God he's not on spirinolactone AND potassium. I'm convicned the first patient I had die on me as an attending was because their physician had them on both--leading to toxic levels of potassium and the inevitable cardiac arrest. Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 26, 2012 12:59 AM (1zwZo) I was on both, but *I* stopped the potassium when they stopped regularly checking my blood levels. I also was on reduced diuretics. Between the coreg, the valsartan, and the spironolactone, potassium responses can be unpredictable. In theory all three are potassium-sparing, but in practice, not always. I get some potassium from a multivitamin but nowhere near as much as with the other. I haven't had a blood test in a while because my doctors are fucking lazy and never answer messages, and I'm tired and can't remember shit. I should be seeing a new doctor soon, even if only briefly.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 09:10 PM (bxiXv)

472 I never played that; it does sound like it'd be more in keeping with the Cold War theme Lucas et al decide on.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 26, 2012 01:06 AM (fC5JW)

I really liked the game, nailed Indiana Jones in storytelling and atmosphere. Of course, now looking at images of it in google, it doesn't look like it aged that well

Posted by: The Dude at April 25, 2012 09:11 PM (M8yfa)

473 ER doc, I try not to prescribe either. I use Lasix frequently, to treat high potassium and for heart failure, but those patients are usually getting admitted, or only getting one dose before being sent out for follow up.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 25, 2012 09:14 PM (1zwZo)

474 I haven't had a blood test in a while because my doctors are fucking lazy and never answer messages, and I'm tired and can't remember shit.

I should be seeing a new doctor soon, even if only briefly.

****

Holy cow ! Definitely see another doctor. Heart failure is nothing to play around with and you don't have to live your life in misery with it either.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 09:15 PM (piMMO)

475 >>>The Rabbi advised me that if I was serving meat, I couldn't serve dairy, and vice versa. If an ultimate bacon cheeseburger is wrong I don't want to be right.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 25, 2012 09:15 PM (GE1+K)

476 ER doc, I try not to prescribe either. I use Lasix frequently, to treat high potassium and for heart failure, but those patients are usually getting admitted, or only getting one dose before being sent out for follow up.

****

I'm now down to "as needed" on the Lasix but have to remember to take the potassium or eat potassium rich foods when taking it or I get bad cramps.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 09:16 PM (piMMO)

477 OK, I just met up with my first comment at 362....496?!?!?!? Que twilight zone music... Lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 09:16 PM (R5yLq)

478 If an ultimate bacon cheeseburger is wrong I don't want to be right. Well in deference to my guests I ate kosher that night as well. The following night? BLT's. Lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 09:17 PM (R5yLq)

479 If your doctor's can't explain your situation to in terms that apply to YOU, ask another doctor. What is the cause of your heart failure? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 01:03 AM (piMMO) I am hoping to see a new Dr. soon. That will be cardiologist number 7. The cause is unknown but they seemed sure it was viral. It was acute with no scarring, no blockage or stiffness of arteries, no signs of permanent damage. It could have been bacterial or fungal, I was on antibiotics previously because they thought it was Pneumonia. There's a lot of unexplained factors involved that are boring to get into. Like why I walked into the ER and was sitting up and joking with people when I had barely any blood flowing. It took them 12 hours to figure out what was going on. Why my blood sugar was off the charts when I got to the ER, came down to normal almost immediately afterward, and stayed normal after I finally stopped taking the Evil Metformin. That kind of thing. I did my homework on the ICD, the data is sparse for my status, but I seem to be a bad choice for that. You people are posting too fast!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 09:18 PM (bxiXv)

480 Hey SoS, I've been away from the blog, or at least the comments, for most of the last week, any updates on work?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 25, 2012 09:18 PM (1zwZo)

481 "And note that the State Department is still preventing the American hostages from suing the Iranian government based on an agreement that was never ratified and ended when the Carter Administration did."

Would it be possible for them to sue Jimmy "Dumbass" Carter for letting the situation drag on as long as it did?

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 25, 2012 09:19 PM (TsNVA)

482 Ha. And ad for a new movie: Snow White and the Hunstman.

Looks more like a dark fable than a Disney story.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 09:20 PM (piMMO)

483 Both my mother and my wife have Celiacs (although my wife is only severe enough that if she eats gluten, she has the shits for the next couple of days). We have gone to a completely gluten free diet at our house, with the single exception that I do buy sourdough bread for myself, since I am addicted to sandwiches. I think that if I were diagnosed with this, I would just go ahead and shoot myself, because life without sandwiches is not worth living. However, until you get used to it, it is really frustrating trying to find things to eat. Fortunately, we live in metro Los Angeles area, so there is no lack of places carrying gluten-free stuff. And recently, they have come out with gluten-free Bisquick, which makes my life ever so much simpler. It is amazing how much stuff you can make with Bisquick.

Posted by: David, sockpuppeted troll at April 25, 2012 09:20 PM (UtoLw)

484 Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 26, 2012 01:07 AM (r7Ddb)

It's from a comic strip called Sheldon. I don't read it regularly but when I do I always laugh.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 09:21 PM (4ixH5)

485 I have two of the Indiana Jones games on Steam. I actually have the other on Disc. I am an Adventure Game Junkie. It's an underserved genre. Telltale Games did okay with the new Monkey Island games, and the new Sam and Max games, but there's still not that much out there. There are a bunch of European adventure games recently, but those people are indecipherable anyway. Adventure games depend *heavily* on a common culture.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 09:22 PM (bxiXv)

486

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 01:20 AM (piMMO)

looks really good though it makes me wish they would finally put The Looking Glass Wars on film

Posted by: The Dude at April 25, 2012 09:22 PM (M8yfa)

487 Hey SoS, I've been away from the blog, or at least the comments, for most of the last week, any updates on work? Well Che-boy quit, not sure if you caught that update or not. He made a nice big public display of quitting on his anniversary date. He showed up wearing his Che T-Shirt and announced that he would be collecting unemployment and playing video games while the rest of us saps worked. Sounded like a great plan - only one tiny hitch. In my state you have to get fired to collect unemployment. If the jackass had been patient and given me a few minutes to fire him for wearing the t-shirt I probably would have, but he had to have his glorious moment in the sun and quit. So, no unemployment.. lol. Other than that just been trying to get things straightened out and taking care of all the crap the old supervisor didn't deal with in his time there. The numbers are looking good for the remaining team, I only have one team member that is below standards now and they are only below standard in one metric - so I'm overjoyed with the progress.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 09:23 PM (R5yLq)

488 Speaking of sequels, MIB III is due in theaters next month.

Meh. I'll wait for the dvd release, or never if the reviews are real bad.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 25, 2012 09:23 PM (ccXZP)

489 ""Yeah. I am thankful for my good docs. I have found most of them to be good. A few try to push too many pills""

I fucking hate that. My doc is trying to push cholesterol drugs on me, and my cholesteral is 184 and dropping just from diet changes. He tells me, well they did studies on some tribes in africa or S america and they found that in tribes with LDL of 70 or less had no heart problems etc etc.

My exact words were "ok, so you are telling me that the rest of the world that don't run around in loin cloths hunting monkeys with blowguns are gonna need meds?"

Posted by: Berserker at April 25, 2012 09:24 PM (FMbng)

490

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 01:22 AM (bxiXv)

last good one I played was Gemini Rue

As for Telltale, I've grown really sour on their games. BTTF and Jurrasic Park are fucking awful

Posted by: The Dude at April 25, 2012 09:26 PM (M8yfa)

491 he numbers are looking good for the remaining team, I only have one team member that is below standards now and they are only below standard in one metric - so I'm overjoyed with the progress.

With the previous supervisor, did they just not know the expectations and thus had no idea they were underperforming, or did they just not care because they were of the impression that there were no consequences for being a slackard?

Posted by: someone at April 25, 2012 09:27 PM (bqjJT)

492 511 Both my mother and my wife have Celiacs (although my wife is only severe enough that if she eats gluten, she has the shits for the next couple of days). Posted by: David, sockpuppeted troll at April 26, 2012 01:20 AM (UtoLw) Her own immune system is eating holes in her small intestine.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 09:28 PM (bxiXv)

493 The cause is unknown but they seemed sure it was viral. It was acute with no scarring, no blockage or stiffness of arteries, no signs of permanent damage. It could have been bacterial or fungal, I was on antibiotics previously because they thought it was Pneumonia.

There's a lot of unexplained factors involved that are boring to get into. Like why I walked into the ER and was sitting up and joking with people when I had barely any blood flowing. It took them 12 hours to figure out what was going on.

***

Viral here. I had bronchitis that wouldn't go away. I drove myself to the E.R. after a couple of months of feeling like I wasn't getting oxygen and dreaming about drowning and only after I stayed up all night because every time I lowered my head I started choking. I walked in and told them that I had very mild asthma and although I had never had an attack, thought I was having one. They scolded me for not using an inhaler but said they wanted to do a Cat scan (I think that's what is was) and after about 10 seconds, rolled me out of the machine to inform me it wasn't asthma. Two days later they released me from the hospital and told me to go home and rest, which I did, for one day, and then went back to work and put in a 12 hour and a 15 hour day before my H.R. department told me not to show back up without a release form. Two weeks later they implanted a Bi-V pacer with AICD. My EF was at 10 by that time.

All you have to do is walk down the street one and catch a bug, the same bug millions of others across the world have caught with no issues at all, and your whole life changes forever.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 09:30 PM (piMMO)

494

That's great news SoS. Plus you picked up Hummingbird in the bargain, and she seems like a pretty good catch for you, and a welcome addition here.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 25, 2012 09:31 PM (1zwZo)

495 I fucking hate that. My doc is trying to push cholesterol drugs on me, and my cholesteral is 184 and dropping just from diet changes. He tells me, well they did studies on some tribes in africa or S america and they found that in tribes with LDL of 70 or less had no heart problems etc etc. Posted by: Berserker at April 26, 2012 01:24 AM (FMbng) They are catastrophically overprescribed, especially statins. Statins interfere with cholesterol synthesis. Guess how your memories are formed. As for Telltale, I've grown really sour on their games. BTTF and Jurrasic Park are fucking awful Posted by: The Dude at April 26, 2012 01:26 AM (M8yfa) I haven't got anything since Sam & Max, but that does seem to fit the general trend in video games - hook you with something good, then drop trou and take a dump.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 09:31 PM (bxiXv)

496 All you have to do is walk down the street one and catch a bug, the same bug millions of others across the world have caught with no issues at all, and your whole life changes forever. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 01:30 AM (piMMO) Ain't that the truth.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 09:32 PM (bxiXv)

497 With the previous supervisor, did they just not know the expectations and thus had no idea they were underperforming, or did they just not care because they were of the impression that there were no consequences for being a slackard? I think it was sort of a vicious circle really - the supervisor let them slack off, so they let him slack off, and it just got worse and worse as time progressed. The upper management started to notice the terrible numbers and were trying to work with the previous supervisor, but they were pretty much at wits end with him by the time that he got fired for the email debacle. Odds are good that if he hadn't gotten fired for that he would have been out the door a week or two later for performance. The previous supervisor pretty much loaded his team with people he considered friends and as a result they never really went to upper management to let them know what was really going on. Funny thing though, they were the ones really getting the short end of that deal. They couldn't get paid time off or most anything that required their supervisor to put in paperwork, etc.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 09:32 PM (R5yLq)

498 Well Che-boy quit, not sure if you caught that update or not. He made a nice big public display of quitting on his anniversary date. He showed up wearing his Che T-Shirt and announced that he would be collecting unemployment and playing video games while the rest of us saps worked.

Sounded like a great plan - only one tiny hitch. In my state you have to get fired to collect unemployment. If the jackass had been patient and given me a few minutes to fire him for wearing the t-shirt I probably would have, but he had to have his glorious moment in the sun and quit. So, no unemployment.. lol.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 26, 2012 01:23 AM (R5yLq)

HAH! Well, good luck to him I guess. It's hard out there for a fuckwit.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 09:32 PM (4ixH5)

499 looks really good though it makes me wish they would finally put The Looking Glass Wars on film

***

The Looking Glass Wars? I assume it's a good read?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 09:33 PM (piMMO)

500 515 SoS, I have previous experience in firing people in a non right to work state, IL. If you fire someone for a documented cause, ie they violated rules as listed in the employee manual -- they are still not eligible for UE benefits. You may have to go to a hearing to fight it, but if your documentation is in order they will lose.

Being fired is not an automatic 'get unemployment' card. Far from it. If this is true in liberal IL, it's likely true in most states.

Okay, it's probably not true in CA.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 25, 2012 09:33 PM (ccXZP)

501 HAH! Well, good luck to him I guess. It's hard out there for a fuckwit.

****

Would you like to super-size that meal?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 09:34 PM (piMMO)

502 hmm stay up for Code D or just watch the games tomorrow after work.....

Posted by: The Dude at April 25, 2012 09:34 PM (M8yfa)

503 The Looking Glass Wars? I assume it's a good read?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 01:33 AM (piMMO)

hmm it's a bit of a love it or hate it but I personally really loved the trilogy

Posted by: The Dude at April 25, 2012 09:35 PM (M8yfa)

504 492 This is why Cooth needs to get on the Book that is a Face.

http://tinyurl.com/77hnb23

Posted by: Robert at April 26, 2012 01:05 AM (4ixH5)

At least you're not giving me crap about the leftwing BS on http://www.comediva.com/feminist-cthulhu

Posted by: cthulhu at April 25, 2012 09:35 PM (kaalw)

505 Anyone want to read a brief review of The Avengers?

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/55244

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 09:37 PM (4ixH5)

506 Okay, it's probably not true in CA. Posted by: GnuBreed at April 26, 2012 01:33 AM (ccXZP) California is an at-will state. The bureaucrats and courts will tend to side with the employee more often than other at-will states, however, because they're all commies. If the company handles things properly, it's usually not that bad, but sometimes it turns into a nightmare. Some companies also have a "surrender first" policy to employment lawsuits that I will *never* understand.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 09:37 PM (bxiXv)

507 Talk of the Saga reminds me, SoS, I had a question. IIRC, soon after you took over as supervisor you had two quit, but "Che and the two Che-bots" were still there. But after Che does his walk out, that afternoon you're coaching the "one remaining Che-bot." When and how did the second go?

Posted by: sistrum at April 25, 2012 09:37 PM (AyryN)

508

Posted by: cthulhu at April 26, 2012 01:35 AM (kaalw)

*Clears throat*

FUCK THE LEFT!

*Sips tea*

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 09:38 PM (4ixH5)

509
All you have to do is walk down the street one and catch a bug, the same bug millions of others across the world have caught with no issues at all, and your whole life changes forever.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 01:30 AM (piMMO)

yep. other people have no fucking idea.

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 25, 2012 09:38 PM (r7Ddb)

510

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 01:10 AM (bxiXv)

I should be seeing a new doctor soon, even if only briefly.

If you do, do a lot of research. At my last physical, I was diagnosed wth high blood pressure. The nurse measured 130/80, the doctor 170/80 a few minutes later. The EKG said I have (or had) LVH, and he said it was due to high BP. I pointed out that, 2 days before, I was running track: 10 110m sprints, then pushups, followed by 10 minutes of stair climbing ... 4 days per week for the past 2 years ... after 5 years * 50weeks * 5d/wk of cycling. The cardiologist (later) did an ultrasound (I watched, and saw zero blockage), but I hit 200/100 on the treadmill. I was arguing with both physicians ... so I did some research. Among otherthing, I found out that hitting 17-/xxx WHILE exercising is reasonable ... 200/100 is life-threatening if you're sitting around, but while strenuously exercising ... maybe not.

Prescriptions: Losartan, Simvastatin & spiro. I started having left-side-only quad muscle pain ... and the twins cut their job hours waaaay down ... told the doctor I had to get off Spiro. I had done some reading about spiro ... 25mg should be no problem, but ... This is when I did some detailed reading on spiro. If you're over 50, it probably won't affect you much ... but in combination with other stuff, ask your physician.

6 months later, I told the doctor I had to quit the statin, as my cholestrol had been at 80, down from a high of 140, and I was still having muscular "problems" ... still only on one side. We were still arguing. But I found out that statins interfere with skeletal muscle growth/re-growth/repair/etc, and affect my family quite badly.

More research, specifically, checking ALL the Wiki links (and then verufying). It seems that LVH is a very bad thing, unless you do a lot of rowing, or cross-country skiing or ...... cycling. Then it is good (The only GOOD Wiki link). I switched to another guy, who has a large number of athletic patients. The new guy listens to me, says we will do an ekg after I'm sufficienty de-trained.

Moral of the story: pay attention to what your physicians say, but do some research. Research what they say,cross-check, etc., and if you change physicians, change to someone who at least works with people with health situations similar to yours.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 25, 2012 09:39 PM (eFLPk)

511

Posted by: Arbalest at April 25, 2012 09:40 PM (eFLPk)

512 They are catastrophically overprescribed, especially statins.

Statins interfere with cholesterol synthesis. Guess how your memories are formed.

*****

And, they destroy a basic building block of energy, Co-Q-10. My cardiologist told me that Co-Q-10 is something you learn about in med school but then never really think about again because, well, it's just there. They hadn't really encountered anything that jeopardized the amount in our system, and then they learned that one of the statin makers had made the connection very early on but decided not to reveal the information.

Three years ago I could barely find any information about it on the web except for a few cardiologists raising hell about it, now, of course, the supplements industry has gotten a hold of it and are pushing it like crazy to each and every person whether they are on statins or not.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 09:40 PM (piMMO)

513 ""Statins interfere with cholesterol synthesis. Guess how your memories are formed.""

Exactly. If my numbers were real bad I could see, but I didn't think 184 cholesterol was "that" bad to where I have to start taking fucking pills. I have a friend on that shit, his memory is shot. He leaves sun glasses at my house, comes by to get them, and leaves the frigging things AND the spares he was using. He leaves stuff here all the time. Earlier today he calls me, I tell him and I was taking a ride to my dad's and asked if he wanted to go. He says let me call you back after i make sure I don't have to do anything. An hour later he calls back and says wtf , are you picking me up or what? I said um dude..you were supposed to call me back to let me know if you are even going with me. He says "oh yeah I forgot".

yeah right, I'm just gonna rush right out and grab those pills.

Posted by: Berserker at April 25, 2012 09:40 PM (FMbng)

514 []That's great news SoS. Plus you picked up Hummingbird in the bargain, and she seems like a pretty good catch for you, and a welcome addition here. She is the absolute best, despite the persistent damage done to my ribs - lol. But despite her evil rib poking ways I love her. Not sure what life has in store for either of us from here but we'll just take it a day at a time and go from there. On thing for certain, we can't split up - the damn dog would be heartbroken.. lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 09:41 PM (R5yLq)

515 hmm stay up for Code D or just watch the games tomorrow after work.....

*****

First round of the draft tomorrow night!!!!!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 09:42 PM (piMMO)

516 524 I fucking hate that. My doc is trying to push cholesterol drugs on me, and my cholesteral is 184 and dropping just from diet changes. He tells me, well they did studies on some tribes in africa or S america and they found that in tribes with LDL of 70 or less had no heart problems etc etc.

Posted by: Berserker at April 26, 2012 01:24 AM (FMbng)

They are catastrophically overprescribed, especially statins.

Statins interfere with cholesterol synthesis. Guess how your memories are formed.

As for Telltale, I've grown really sour on their games. BTTF and Jurrasic Park are fucking awful
Posted by: The Dude at April 26, 2012 01:26 AM (M8yfa)

I haven't got anything since Sam & Max, but that does seem to fit the general trend in video games - hook you with something good, then drop trou and take a dump.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 01:31 AM (bxiXv)

It may be one of those anecdotes, but I've heard that you don't get a statin script in Europe without a Coenzyme Q10 supplement.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 25, 2012 09:42 PM (kaalw)

517 yep. other people have no fucking idea. Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 26, 2012 01:38 AM (r7Ddb) You have a good life, good job, people respect you, you have money - fucking meteor hits. Despite the *crap* I am thankful every day that I had good insurance. Still costs me my last arm and leg, and has drained all my savings, but I would not have made it this far without. Even though they apparently don't have a *plan* as to what day of the month they pay, I think they throw darts at a calendar. Seriously, two weeks apart for one month, six weeks apart the next? Apparently the heart isn't an important enough problem for SSDI, though. I mean, it's not like you can't do without it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 09:43 PM (bxiXv)

518 Sorry SoS, Mrs. Crank is the best--but I get where you're coming from ;-)

Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 25, 2012 09:43 PM (1zwZo)

519 So, lipitor 10mg, metaformin 500mg, aspirin 81mg, and lisinopril 10mg are my docs way of saying buy more life insurance.

Posted by: Jean at April 25, 2012 09:46 PM (elbGQ)

520 Talk of the Saga reminds me, SoS, I had a question. IIRC, soon after you took over as supervisor you had two quit, but "Che and the two Che-bots" were still there. But after Che does his walk out, that afternoon you're coaching the "one remaining Che-bot." When and how did the second go? She didn't actually go anywhere, I just stopped thinking of her as a che-bot. She's the young girl who needed the day off for the graduation and was friends with Twilight Fan. But I can't really consider her a che-bot anymore.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 09:46 PM (R5yLq)

521 So, lipitor 10mg, metaformin 500mg, aspirin 81mg, and lisinopril 10mg are my docs way of saying buy more life insurance.

****

I am loaded up, but it's all through my employer and when I lose my job, it all goes away.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 09:47 PM (piMMO)

522 Sorry SoS, Mrs. Crank is the best--but I get where you're coming from ;-) Lol.. no worries.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 09:48 PM (R5yLq)

523 551 and caught up!!!!

Er, is there anyone still here?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 25, 2012 09:49 PM (kaalw)

524 First round of the draft tomorrow night!!!!!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 01:42 AM (piMMO)

Talking about season 2 of GSL (Starcraft 2)

And I love me some football but the draft is some of the most boring shit ever.

Posted by: The Dude at April 25, 2012 09:49 PM (M8yfa)

525 Er, is there anyone still here? Who? What? Huh? Umm... no. Lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 09:50 PM (R5yLq)

526 >>>Er, is there anyone still here? Lurking

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 25, 2012 09:50 PM (GE1+K)

527 Er, is there anyone still here? Posted by: cthulhu at April 26, 2012 01:49 AM (kaalw) Just us chickens.

Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at April 25, 2012 09:51 PM (4ixH5)

528 Lurking Terrible job of lurking. We spotted the fin a mile away! Lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 09:51 PM (R5yLq)

529 Moral of the story: pay attention to what your physicians say, but do some research. Research what they say,cross-check, etc.,and if you change physicians, change to someone who at least works with people with health situations similar to yours. Posted by: Arbalest at April 26, 2012 01:39 AM (eFLPk) I am a research junkie, though I am not kidding when I say these drugs make me an idiot. I mean, I can form sentences and type and everything, but sometimes I get stuck on ideas that would have been child's play for me before. That worries me more than anything. And, they destroy a basic building block of energy, Co-Q-10. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 01:40 AM (piMMO) And it's *vitally* important to repairing the heart. Any kind of heart damage causes your blood levels of Coenzyme Q-10 to drop quickly. If you have *any* heart problems you should be downing this like candy. And look into Ubiquinol, that's the trade name for the chemical that Co-Q-10 is made into by your body (I forget the word), so it's like pre-processed. Check with your useless doctor, but pretty much take as much as you can afford if you're a heart patient.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 09:51 PM (bxiXv)

530

Here-ish, but about to hit the hay.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 25, 2012 09:52 PM (1zwZo)

531

I think my Fight with Italics may have scared many away.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 25, 2012 09:52 PM (eFLPk)

532 Lisinopril made me cough so bad I was burning a whole bag of cough drops every day.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 09:53 PM (bxiXv)

533 I was going to do something tonight, totally forgot. Maybe I was going to sleep. Too late now.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 09:53 PM (bxiXv)

534 I think my Fight with Italics may have scared many away. Well I was a little worried about you until the start of the 3rd round when you landed that nasty uppercut. After that I think you had the upper hand

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 09:53 PM (R5yLq)

535 ""So, lipitor 10mg, metaformin 500mg, aspirin 81mg, and lisinopril 10mg are my docs way of saying buy more life insurance.""

they put me on the smallest dose possible of lisinopril for..get this.... blood pressure thats usually around 120 over 80. I started checking my blood pressure and was getting readings of 89 over 59. I told him shove the pills. I took them 1 month and said screw that, and that was 4 months ago. I just checked my blood pressure right before typing this for shits and giggles.It was 110 over 70.

89 over 59... Fuck pills.

Posted by: Berserker at April 25, 2012 09:53 PM (FMbng)

536 Despite the *crap* I am thankful every day that I had good insurance. Still costs me my last arm and leg, and has drained all my savings, but I would not have made it this far without.

*****

Same here. Thank God! And, even more, my company offers and almost unheard of benefit: 26 weeks of fully paid short-term disability. I didn't even think about taking when I was diagnosed and recovering and returned to work much too early but now, three years later, I have worked myself into a hole working far too many hours and skipping doses because of getting home so late, so my doc has taken me out of work. He has applied for me to take the entire 26 weeks off to get back on track mentally and physically. AND...he required me to see a therapist to deal with stress.

Now I'm just awaiting approval from Metlife.

If approved, I intend to make the best of it by taking my meds, unloading at the therapist's office, taking yoga, and walking on the beach.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 09:53 PM (piMMO)

537 560 I think my Fight with Italics may have scared many away. Posted by: Arbalest at April 26, 2012 01:52 AM (eFLPk) Ehhh, probably my incessant whining.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 09:54 PM (bxiXv)

538 I am here but have nothing intelligent, clever, poetic, or even delicious to say ...

Posted by: Adriane at April 25, 2012 09:56 PM (VVZaH)

539 they put me on the smallest dose possible of lisinopril for..get this.... blood pressure thats usually around 120 over 80. I started checking my blood pressure and was getting readings of 89 over 59. I told him shove the pills. I took them 1 month and said screw that, and that was 4 months ago. I just checked my blood pressure right before typing this for shits and giggles.It was 110 over 70.

****

Some folks apparently suffer from HBP just because they are stressing about being at the doctor's office. I was put on Lisinopril for a few days and started fainting.

They immediately took me off of it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 09:56 PM (piMMO)

540

Lisinopril made me cough so bad I was burning a whole bag of cough drops every day.

This drug and result sound familiar. Is it for high BP? Try Losartan. It costs more, but there are no dry-throat problems. But I seem to still be having left-side events and I take nothing else.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 25, 2012 09:56 PM (eFLPk)

541 >>>Lisinopril made me cough so bad I was burning a whole bag of cough drops every day. Hated the stuff. Switched to Micardis. Effective and not nearly so bothersome. It does however shorten your temper.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 25, 2012 09:56 PM (GE1+K)

542 SoS : Ah! Thanks for answering.

Posted by: sistrum at April 25, 2012 09:57 PM (AyryN)

543 And look into Ubiquinol, that's the trade name for the chemical that Co-Q-10 is made into by your body (I forget the word), so it's like pre-processed.

Check with your useless doctor, but pretty much take as much as you can afford if you're a heart patient.

****

Oh no, it's one of the supplements he requires me to take and I purchase all my supplements at a little independent health store. He also has me on Magnesium Asportate, Sellenium Yeast, Alpha Lipoic Acid, and sublingual B12.

And my doctor is a dream!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 09:59 PM (piMMO)

544 This drug and result sound familiar. Is it for high BP? Try Losartan. It costs more, but there are no dry-throat problems. But I seem to still be having left-side events and I take nothing else. Posted by: Arbalest at April 26, 2012 01:56 AM (eFLPk) I have odd numbness, primarily left side (but not only), usually hand up to elbow, sometimes lower leg. When exercising, mainly. 3 doctors and an MRI later, they've thrown up their hands. They "don't think it's serious." My cardiologists didn't even *care*. I went in early on with my list of side effects and the nurse told me that side effects are rare. Stopped there. I had to explain that statistics are for predicting side effects, not pretending they don't exist *after* they happen. I swear, it's like I'm on a list or something.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 10:01 PM (bxiXv)

545 lisinopril and other ACE-inhibitors can cause a chronic cough in certain people, not sure why, but it's the most common reason for patient's to request coming off the medicine. Losartan is an ARB, so it works in the same hormone pathway as ACE-Is but blocks a recpetor instead of an enzyme. Fairly similar end clinical effects, but more expensive.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 25, 2012 10:01 PM (1zwZo)

546 Hated the stuff. Switched to Micardis. Effective and not nearly so bothersome. It does however shorten your temper. Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 26, 2012 01:56 AM (GE1+K) If my temper gets any shorter it will cease to exist entirely. I can actually *feel* the medicine doing it to me, it's the most bizarre thing. I remember the first time it happened, it was like something crawling around in my veins, looking for something to piss off.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 10:03 PM (bxiXv)

547 I'd like to thank everyone who put up with my whining on this thread. Sometimes I let loose. Now you know why I don't post much anymore.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 10:04 PM (bxiXv)

548 SoS : Ah! Thanks for answering. No worries. I pretty much just type this stuff in on the fly and sometimes I miss an important detail.. or 10.. lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 10:04 PM (R5yLq)

549
I had to explain that statistics are for predicting side effects, not pretending they don't exist *after* they happen.

I swear, it's like I'm on a list or something.

****

After all, 1%-5% of patients adds up to a helluva lot of people. And the side effects are serious for those who have to live with them.

You really, really need to see another doctor. You are clearly not happy and your doctor shouldn't be creating additional stress in your life.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 10:04 PM (piMMO)

550 ""lisinopril and other ACE-inhibitors can cause a chronic cough in certain people, not sure why, but it's the most common reason for patient's to request coming off the medicine""

I had no side effects other than my blood pressure dropping through the floor and some dizzyness. I shouldn't have been on BP pills of any kind to start with.

Posted by: Berserker at April 25, 2012 10:05 PM (FMbng)

551 I'd like to thank everyone who put up with my whining on this thread. Sometimes I let loose.

Now you know why I don't post much anymore.

****

This community has proven time and time again to be a support system for morons in needed. We all need it from time to time.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 10:06 PM (piMMO)

552 Now you know why I don't post much anymore. No worries Merovign, I haven't replied as someone else has a much better handle on the whole medications thing than I do so didn't feel the need. But know that we are all pulling for you and that we don't mind a bit if you need to vent. That is more or less what this place is - lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 10:06 PM (R5yLq)

553

I have odd numbness, primarily left side (but not only), usually hand up to elbow, sometimes lower leg. When exercising, mainly.

I have exactly those symptoms, but not while exercising. I'm still de-training. I have had left-side jaw numbness once, extending back to the base of the skull. I had a twinge (psychologically felt like an extremely small explosion) in my left ankle a few days ago. Occasionally, when I start to fall asleep, I get a "falling" sensation, like I'm completely shutting down, and something tells me that I have to force myself to wake up. I told all of these things to both physicians ... no particular interest.

Prior to taking these medcations, I had never had any of these symptoms, Not once. Not ever.

It's good to hear that these symptoms are apparently indicative of ... nothing.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 25, 2012 10:09 PM (eFLPk)

554

A lot of those weird neuro symptoms are just that--weird neuro symptoms, and nothing more. I know it often drives patients nuts to hear it, but burning/tingling in your arm or leg with a negative MRI usually means no serious pathology. If they still are not satisfied, I give them a referral to a neurologist, who can do a bunch more tests before telling them the same thing.

In your case, Arbalest, I can't say for sure what's going on, neuropathy can happen from some medciations, and whether it's transient, semi-permament or permament is not something that can always be reliably predicted. Or, you could have a radiculopathy where the nerve plexus is getting dinged at times by a bulging disc, bone spur, or spasming muscle, causing the limb symptoms. None of these are "serious" as in life- or limb-threatening, but I won't deny they can be a pain in the ass.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 25, 2012 10:09 PM (1zwZo)

555 You really, really need to see another doctor. You are clearly not happy and your doctor shouldn't be creating additional stress in your life. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 02:04 AM (piMMO) Don't I freaking know it. It may sound like I'm a difficult patient, I'm really not. I try to be pleasant and not get all up in people's grills. I cooperate as much as I can, I even take their freaking drugs that make me ill and follow the restrictions they haven't changed even though my heart has improved dramatically. I have been asking around and *none* of the cardiologists around here are the ones that get the nod. Basically I found a good one 450 miles away after I spent all my money, so I'm juggling trying to go see them - and *they* are not very available right now. He's my Obi Wan Kenobi, though. I sure hope that works out.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 10:10 PM (bxiXv)

556 Always Sunny in Philadelphia is the most absurd show on t.v. with the most asinine characters and it's frightening to realize that there are actual humans no smarter than they.

Still, I frequently LMAO.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 10:10 PM (piMMO)

557 Now you know why I don't post much anymore.

post anyway ...

Posted by: Adriane at April 25, 2012 10:12 PM (VVZaH)

558

Conservative Crank: From one of your previous posts I take it that you are a physician.

Not to cause you to assume any liability at all, but do any of the symptoms listed in any of the preceeding 300 or so posts signal anything to report to a physician?

I always try to sieze an opportunity to bum free expert advice ...

Posted by: Arbalest at April 25, 2012 10:13 PM (eFLPk)

559 The Looking Glass Wars? I assume it's a good read?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 01:33 AM (piMMO)

I liked it, but it took too long for #3 to come out - still haven't read it due to obsessiveness (have to re-read #1 and 2 again). I usually don't like non-original author takes on series (Oz...), but TLGW does a good job of it.

Isn't there a movie in the works? I could swear there was talk of it many moons ago at SDCC. Maybe not... might have been for the graphic novel that was in production at the time.

Night folks, have a happy one.

Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at April 25, 2012 10:13 PM (NJpM7)

560

All right, I'm dragging my free advice giving butt to bed. But you morons should definitely raise hell about symptoms or side effects that are new. We doctors do not have all the answers all the time, and lots of times these are not dangerous, but that doesn't mean it isn't significant to the patient. If the doc won't work with you, find someone who will.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 25, 2012 10:14 PM (1zwZo)

561 Arbalest--see above. Weird neuro sh*t is usually just that and nothing more, but usually sure as hell don't mean always.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 25, 2012 10:15 PM (1zwZo)

562 goodnight CC and Soulpile

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2012 10:15 PM (piMMO)

563 It's good to hear that these symptoms are apparently indicative of ... nothing. Posted by: Arbalest at April 26, 2012 02:09 AM (eFLPk) I don't believe that for a second. They just don't know. Doctors are like oceanographers. They study a big, complex system they don't fully understand but they can explain at a sort of Dicovery Channel level. They know enough to predict basic responses, but some weather change throws them off. Like with Celiac disease, they've identified like 6-7 genes but have no idea which combinations cause what, and why it expresses in so many symptoms or none at all. There's a study I lost track of that I had links to from years ago about *general* medical effectiveness, about how often a medicine simply doesn't have the expected effect at all. Because the system is too complicated to be sure what's *actually* going on some of the time.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 10:16 PM (bxiXv)

564 And thanks everyone.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 10:17 PM (bxiXv)

565 Merovign, half of what they taught me in med school was wrong--they just don't know which half. That's why we call it practicing medicine.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 25, 2012 10:17 PM (1zwZo)

566 595 Merovign, half of what they taught me in med school was wrong--they just don't know which half. That's why we call it practicing medicine. Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 26, 2012 02:17 AM (1zwZo) Yup. And I'm an "oddball" case anyway. I don't expect doctors to be like movie doctors, I have just been getting mediocre service.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 10:18 PM (bxiXv)

567

Conservative Crank: thanks for the free advice.

According to a personal trainer I used several year ago, I'm in excellent health and condition, and "playing for free": I'm undamaged. I decided to stay that way, after my third sparring session; I dodged so much that I did not get hit, but I did give myself a 10 hour headache.

Some years ago I solidified my decision to keep exercising at a rather high level, until I was no longer capable ... while visiting my mother in the nursing home, I met a ~94y.o. gentleman (wheelchair bound, cheated death 4 times, yet chasing my mother, so I shook his hand and expressed my pleasure in meeting him) ...

... and then later, 2 other gentlemen, brothers ... who did not fit in ... they walked around about as well and as fast as (probably) the average commenter here.

It turns out they were retired farmers ... the younger brother was 94 or 95, so his older brother was 96-97 ... I therefore chose muscular fatigue, sprains and bruises over medication.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 25, 2012 10:23 PM (eFLPk)

568 I don't expect doctors to be like movie doctors, I have just been getting mediocre service.

Ask to speak to old Dr. Young ... if he's unavailable, ask for his partner (and son) young Dr. Young ...

Posted by: Adriane at April 25, 2012 10:24 PM (VVZaH)

569 Doctors are like oceanographers. Great, now I'm stuck with a mental image of my doctor putting on a snorkel and goggles before snapping on that glove. Yup.. no sleep for me tonight.. lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 10:24 PM (R5yLq)

570 Ask to speak to old Dr. Young Dr. Sexy, MD.. lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 10:26 PM (R5yLq)

571 Thick As A Brick 2???? Yes:

http://tinyurl.com/7pud9ku (1st & 2nd tracks)

wiki track listings:

http://tinyurl.com/7zora4c

Sound quality seems a bit off.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 25, 2012 10:27 PM (ccXZP)

572 grim and i are kinda watchng TV. we Tivo The Big Bang Theory and its my guilty pleasure...

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 25, 2012 10:27 PM (r7Ddb)

573 grim and i are kinda watchng TV. we Tivo The Big Bang Theory and its my guilty pleasure... Lol... love that show.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 10:29 PM (R5yLq)

574 First!

What? Oh.

666th!

Too soon. Damn, who do you have to blow to catch a break around here?

Posted by: epobirs at April 25, 2012 10:33 PM (kcfmt)

575 Now you know why I don't post much anymore.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 02:04 AM (bxiXv)

It's been enlightening. We can also talk about sexy wiminz if that'll cheer you up.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 10:36 PM (4ixH5)

576 I really like my current doc, and will concede that he often knows more than I do about medicine. He's my 40th birthday present to myself, 'cause my previous physician ranked lower than dogshit in my estimation -- especially after he ran two consecutive lab tests for infection when I started having medication sensitivities.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 25, 2012 10:36 PM (kaalw)

577 Damn, who do you have to blow to catch a break around here?

Posted by: epobirs at April 26, 2012 02:33 AM (kcfmt)

*Cough*

Posted by: Mel Gibson at April 25, 2012 10:36 PM (4ixH5)

578 http://tinyurl.com/7wjb6ah

Scientifally perfect face? Her lips are too big.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 10:37 PM (4ixH5)

579 I don`t need no doctor.

Posted by: rightlysouthern at April 25, 2012 10:38 PM (zwuMp)

580 Yet.

Posted by: rightlysouthern at April 25, 2012 10:39 PM (zwuMp)

581 my previous physician ranked lower than dogshit in my estimation -- especially after he ran two consecutive lab tests for infection when I started having medication sensitivities. When I started shopping for a new doc a few years back I called around and the first question I asked was "Do you take Medicaid?" Whenever they answered with "Yes" my response was, "Ok, thanks." Then I'd hang up.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 25, 2012 10:41 PM (R5yLq)

582 Scientifally perfect face?

Perfect for what I wonder??? did you catch the 21 inch dude below her pic?

Posted by: beanervt at April 25, 2012 10:43 PM (KZLoo)

583 BEAN! Yeah, chick could swallow that dude whole.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 10:45 PM (4ixH5)

584 I am done, Malcom X is on the encore channel,he is the nicest guy on the planet...group hug..".yeah

Posted by: AlaskaGal at April 25, 2012 10:46 PM (2fe76)

585 Some boyband got chlamydia from a koala.

http://tinyurl.com/8y4pvxy

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 10:46 PM (4ixH5)

586 It's been enlightening. We can also talk about sexy wiminz if that'll cheer you up. Posted by: Robert at April 26, 2012 02:36 AM (4ixH5) Still not clicking on your links! I have 20 years experience in IT, I can find sexy wimminz on teh intarwebs!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 10:47 PM (bxiXv)

587 http://tinyurl.com/7wjb6ah

Scientifally perfect face? Her lips are too big.

What a jealous whore ...

Posted by: Samantha Brick, Apotheosis of Pulchritude at April 25, 2012 10:47 PM (Hrcfr)

588 I remember Operation Eagle Claw. What a complete cock up.
It was a half assed commitment by a half assed CIC who was more interested in being a nice guy than getting results.
The outcome was predictable.

Posted by: navybrat at April 25, 2012 10:49 PM (aXAKh)

589 Damn, who do you have to blow to catch a break around here?
[cough, cough]

Posted by: The Head Ewok at April 25, 2012 10:49 PM (nU/dt)

590 Scotland did not have ten kings named Malcolm. Hollywood fucks up again.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 25, 2012 10:50 PM (nU/dt)

591 Damn, who do you have to blow to catch a break around here?

me ...

Posted by: over, with a feather ... at April 25, 2012 10:53 PM (VVZaH)

592 Scientifally perfect face? Her lips are too big.

Florence Colgate

The universe is just softballing the British teeth jokes over the plate now ...

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 25, 2012 10:53 PM (Hrcfr)

593 Yeah, chick could swallow that dude whole

Hey Robert.. well I'd like to use him for the worlds "little peeps" tossing record.. looks like he'd go far...

Posted by: beanervt at April 25, 2012 10:53 PM (KZLoo)

594 Since we're talking medicine, I've been seeing this dude for an issue of a persistent problem. Anywho, I see the guy and the first thing he says is I'm diabetic.

Slow down there, boss, lets not jump to conclusion.

And then he did some A1C3 test thingy. I think that's something that a guy should prepare for cause then I wouldn't have nibbled on a piece of cheesecake beforehand. Needless to say, it didn't help.

So he insists, I do the whole figner jabbing thing with the glucometer, blah blah blah blah long story short my blood sugar levels were pretty normal.

So I've been watching what I eat, do the low carb thing, slowly but surely bringing my weight down. Maybe I'm prediabetic, I dunno.

So I see him last month. Same shit, but he still assumes I'm diabetic. Do another A1C3 thingy. Normal. I think he's coming around.

Still trying to lose weight. Still watching what I eat. Slowly but surely the weight is coming down. It went up a bit while my sister was visiting, alas, but it's heading back down again. Trying to keep that trend line edged down and I think so far so good.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 10:55 PM (4ixH5)

595 Good luck, Robert. (And goodnight, folks.)

Posted by: andycanuck at April 25, 2012 10:57 PM (nU/dt)

596 A gift for Bean and Mero to share.

http://tinyurl.com/6uomm4q

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 10:57 PM (4ixH5)

597 Good night, Andy!

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 10:58 PM (4ixH5)

598 *Sigh* Some stripper had a molecule tattooed on her side, and now I'm going to spend an hour or two trying to figure out what it was.

What have I missed here?

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 10:58 PM (jdZlf)

599 Some stripper had a molecule tattooed on her side, and now I'm going to spend an hour or two trying to figure out what it was.

pics etc.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 25, 2012 10:59 PM (Hrcfr)

600 Robert -

truvia not sugar!

Posted by: Adriane at April 25, 2012 10:59 PM (VVZaH)

601 looks like he'd go far... Posted by: beanervt at April 26, 2012 02:53 AM (KZLoo) Build a large slingshot to fit him in, maybe.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:00 PM (4ixH5)

602 So I see him last month. Same shit, but he still assumes I'm diabetic. Do another A1C3 thingy. Normal. I think he's coming around. Posted by: Robert at April 26, 2012 02:55 AM (4ixH5) Like salt, doctors often have blinders on when it comes to blood sugar. Now, people really do have blood sugar problems (don't get me started on all the different conditions lumped together under "diabetes" as if it were one and only one thing), and some of them are helped or even saved by treatment. But one thing you have to search hard to get a doctor to admit is that not everyone's healthy baseline is *exactly* the same, and A1C is not only not a perfectly reliable indicator, but a lot of the testing is sloppy, and things like viruses (me) can not only change your blood sugar, they can actually change your A1C levels directly. It's buried in the medical literature and people are set in their ways. Did they ever even do a response test? More and more doctors are skipping that and it's the way they're supposed to do it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:01 PM (bxiXv)

603 I remember that day. I was with a unit under 18th Airborne Corps and Ft. Bragg. They woke us up early. We knew this wasn't the usual drill alert because there were MPs at the entrance to the barracks and concertina wire was being run around the buildings. Some of the guys went to the pay phones in the vestibule area of the barracks, by the CQ desk but the microphone elements had been removed. This was the first time we had experienced this much security without any warning. We were instructed to cover our unit patches with duct tape and we went to the motor pool and were instructed to get all of our equipment flight ready and cover all unit markings on the vehicles with duct tape.

Part of the prep for getting the vehicles ready to move by air were the obvious securing of all stuff inside them, make sure all the equipment inside the vehicle shelters were properly secured, all the glass on the vehicles was taped with an X pattern using duct tape and only enough fuel was put into the vehicles to get them to "Green Ramp", get them on and off the plane. We would refuel them when the vehicles came off the aircraft. This was to reduce the fire hazard of the fuel to the extent possible.

The Air Force guys were checking out the vehicles and were being much pickier than normal about anything being not "just so" than they were when we ran regular practice drills. Once the vehicle was checked out and passed, it was loaded on a C-141. We were in a staging area and I noticed a sight that I had never seen before, the unit armorers were counting out basic loads of live ammunition. That made me a little nervous as this was Carter's Army and there were some people in my unit that I wasn't sure I would trust with live ammunition. But this must have been about the time the mission was scrubbed because after hanging around a while, the told us that we were standing down, the vehicles were coming off the planes and we were to take everything back to the unit area and undo all of our tape work.

When we got back, the concertina wire was gone, microphone elements were back in the phones and the MPs were gone. My unit was part of the newly formed "Rapid Deployment Joint Task Force" that Carter had created. I'm not sure if we learned later that day or the next morning that there had been a failed rescue attempt. Carter announced it at 1:00 in the morning according to Wikipedia but there might have been some rumors going around before that, I can't recall, it's been a while, but I do seem to remember that when I heard about it, it was broad daylight and I was outside so it might have been the next morning. That's when it began to sink in that had they gone in there and got stuck, the Rapid Deployment Force was going in after them loaded for bear.

I will say that *everything* changed after that day in my unit. We got a lot more serious about what we were doing starting the very next day. Also, I think whatever support Carter had up to that point among some of the troops, basically giving him the benefit of the doubt over the whole Iranian situation, fell apart, too. Rumors were going around that Col. Beckwith was going to be thrown under the bus for it but as far as I know that didn't happen but I remember the idea of that happening pissed off a lot of us as he was a pretty much legendary around Ft. Bragg at the time.

We were all pretty close to the edge that day without really realizing it at the time, and we were all pretty disappointed when we found out what had happened.

Posted by: crosspatch at April 25, 2012 11:02 PM (ZbLJZ)

604 truvia not sugar!

Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 02:59 AM (VVZaH)

I keep forgetting. I'll do better, Adriane, I swear!

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:02 PM (4ixH5)

605 What have I missed here?

Posted by: Alex at April 26, 2012 02:58 AM (jdZlf)

um me. yeah thats it! whats goin on? you goin to strip joints instead of hangin with us now? was she hot? and i wonder what molecule... do you think it was the one for acid or maybe ecstasy?

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 25, 2012 11:04 PM (r7Ddb)

606 truvia not sugar! Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 02:59 AM (VVZaH) Stevia is *HORRIFYING*. Your mileage may vary, but I'd rather sweeten things with coal dust. That's another thing, people's taste buds differ. The best fake sweetener I found is called "Ideal." It's Xylitol and sucralose with a dash of dextrose and maltodextrin. It's so little sugar it should have little or no insulin effect, and it's not as nasty as Stevia or pure Aspartame / Sucralose or most of the blends. It also depends on what you have it in. If you put it in coffee you don't know it's bitter because the drink is bitter. I don't drink coffee.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:05 PM (bxiXv)

607 I swear too ... usually when I drop something on my foot or the cat tries to claw her way up my bare leg ...

Posted by: Adriane at April 25, 2012 11:06 PM (VVZaH)

608 um me. yeah thats it! whats goin on? you goin to strip joints instead of hangin with us now? was she hot? and i wonder what molecule... do you think it was the one for acid or maybe ecstasy? Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 26, 2012 03:04 AM (r7Ddb) Aww, I never had a druggie girlfriend! No fair!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:06 PM (bxiXv)

609 Did they ever even do a response test? More and more doctors are skipping that and it's the way they're supposed to do it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 03:01 AM (bxiXv)

Uh, dunno. It's not diabetes I'm seeing the guy for, it's a couple of persistent infections on my legs which can, it turns out, jack up your blood sugar like you mentioned.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:08 PM (4ixH5)

610 bean: check out this vid. they rounded the farallones about an hour before low speed chase. http://tinyurl.com/6nk2xwj

Posted by: D. Hopper at April 25, 2012 11:09 PM (AVfT8)

611 Stevia is *HORRIFYING*.

I found that pure stevia tasted sweet but then left a bad aftertaste. truvia (for me) has no yukky aftertaste.

I use it for my tea mostly ... but swap out some, but not all, of sugar from bread machine recipes ...

Posted by: Adriane at April 25, 2012 11:10 PM (VVZaH)

612 Posted by: crosspatch at April 26, 2012 03:02 AM (ZbLJZ) I knew somebody who knew Beckwith. Despised Carter, and especially Warren Christopher. Apparently that story about Christopher sticking his grubbies into the operations and screwing some things up is true, though I don't know the details (other than what Beckwith wrote). Obviously the part where Carter and Christopher dicked around for over a year is true, I mean the rest of it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:11 PM (bxiXv)

613 Uh, dunno. It's not diabetes I'm seeing the guy for, it's a couple of persistent infections on my legs which can, it turns out, jack up your blood sugar like you mentioned. Posted by: Robert at April 26, 2012 03:08 AM (4ixH5) If a doctor says the word "prediabetic," I ask them who is *not* prediabetic, in their opinion. Because it seems like normal blood sugar is "prediabetic" now in the guidelines. They should not be trying to push people's blood sugar below normal. Hypoglycemia kills brain cells.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:14 PM (bxiXv)

614 Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 03:10 AM (VVZaH) Mileage always varies on flavor. I used to work at a natural food-related company, and they had a lot of Stevia-sweetened things. I never had a good one.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:15 PM (bxiXv)

615 um me. yeah thats it! whats goin on? you goin to strip joints instead of hangin with us now? was she hot? and i wonder what molecule... do you think it was the one for acid or maybe ecstasy?

Well, missing out on you and the other 'ettes is definitely a downside to my adventures. I went to the bar to have a few drinks and read, and wandered over to the strip club while I sobered up. It has strippers who aren't tattooed head to toe, which is nice. And as much as I love this group of knuckleheads, I had to get out of the house before I went crazy. She was kind of cute, but reminded me of Amy Winehouse, which was not a good thing.

The molecule was not acid or ecstasy... I checked already. Meh, I'll figure it out at some point.

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 11:19 PM (jdZlf)

616 Hypoglycemia kills brain cells. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 03:14 AM (bxiXv) As long as I got a few left to think of hot wiminz and metal, I'm good.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:21 PM (4ixH5)

617 The molecule was not acid or ecstasy... I checked already. Meh, I'll figure it out at some point. Posted by: Alex at April 26, 2012 03:19 AM (jdZlf) Caffeine? Was it simple or complex? It could have had to do with a name or nickname, like Ruby. I am not a fan of tattoos in general, but I think a chemistry tattoo on a stripper is funny.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:21 PM (bxiXv)

618 What atoms did the molecule consist of?

Maybe it was a caffeine molecule.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:22 PM (4ixH5)

619 I gave up diet sodas a while back. Now I only drink regular sodas once or twice a week, and the rest of the week I drink unsweet tea and seltzer water. I tried drinking a Diet Pepsi a couple of days ago, and the taste made me sick. The artificial sweeteners did not taste the same.

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 11:22 PM (jdZlf)

620 As long as I got a few left to think of hot wiminz and metal, I'm good. Posted by: Robert at April 26, 2012 03:21 AM (4ixH5) I don't think you can afford both hypoglycemia *and* metal. So have a cookie. Dammit, now I want a cookie. I don't keep sweets around, either.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:22 PM (bxiXv)

621 641 bean: check out this vid.

Hey DH,,,, holy shit I see why want to give it plenty of leeway when rounding.. the water turns all nasty and you don't even want to end up on the rocks.. nice vid tnks

and tnks for the "present" Robert,, she's a honey..

Posted by: beanervt at April 25, 2012 11:23 PM (KZLoo)

622 http://www.worldofmolecules.com/drugs/caffeine.htm

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:23 PM (4ixH5)

623 I am not a fan of tattoos in general, but I think a chemistry tattoo on a stripper is funny.

Either somebody needs to wake up jeffe ... or we all need to pledge on our sacred honor never to mention this to jeffe.

not sure which.

Posted by: Adriane at April 25, 2012 11:24 PM (VVZaH)

624 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 03:22 AM (bxiXv)

Don't say cookie or I will murder someone.

I just had a bowl of corn flakes.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:24 PM (4ixH5)

625

Posted by: Alex at April 26, 2012 03:22 AM (jdZlf)

I just cut sodas out entirely. I drink unsweetened iced tea and lots of water.

And coffee. Cause if I don't get my shot of caffeine somneone is going to get hurt.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:25 PM (4ixH5)

626 It wasn't the caffeine molecule. It was an organic molecule as best I could tell. It had two rings and a section that had three carbon atoms with seven other atoms attached. I could be completely off base, however. It has been a long time since I studied chemistry. Also, it was dark, and there were tittehs.

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 11:25 PM (jdZlf)

627 Looks in mirror.

Cookie! Cookie! Cookie!

Tony Todd appears and asks for a Mallomar.

Posted by: epobirs at April 25, 2012 11:26 PM (kcfmt)

628 Sweeteners go with certain flavors, or not. I am *so* mad at Kraft for dropping Sugar-Free Cherry Kool-Aid. I have this last remaining stash - they say the "mini" version they have now for water bottles is the same but it's nowhere locally and three times as expensive. It tastes better than everything but real soda. For some odd reason it takes a day or two to acclimate to it after a long stretch, but it tastes so good. Tapwater usually tastes funny to me. Sometimes I get away with filtered. Hate diet sodas.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:26 PM (bxiXv)

629

Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 03:24 AM (VVZaH)

Jefe? Sacred honor compels me to say...uh...ya know what? Forget I said anything.

Posted by: Will Folks at April 25, 2012 11:26 PM (4ixH5)

630 Maybe it was a caffeine molecule.

Posted by: Robert at April 26, 2012 03:22 AM (4ixH5)

gushie makes note to self....

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 25, 2012 11:27 PM (r7Ddb)

631 and there were tittehs.

Posted by: Alex at April 26, 2012 03:25 AM (jdZlf)

Tell us more.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:27 PM (4ixH5)

632

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:27 PM (4ixH5)

633 I can;t drink unsweetened tea. Too face-screwing bitter. Can't drink green tea at all. I blame my parents. It's their genes, nothing to do with me!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:27 PM (bxiXv)

634 Nearer my Beast to thee.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:27 PM (4ixH5)

635 Posted by: Robert at April 26, 2012 03:25 AM (4ixH5)

I set aside Friday night and all day Saturday to be bad. Friday I'll eat a pizza and soda while playing video games, watching tv, whatever, and then I pig out Saturday with pancakes and sugary crap and whatnot. It keeps me sane for the rest of the week.

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 11:28 PM (jdZlf)

636 My husband went to the doctor because his feet were swollen. They gave him a sugar test, it's very high, so he must be diabetic, right? That's they way they treated him for a while...until the doctor for some reason decides to do a CBC. Very high count of white blood cells. A subsequent biopsy confirmed a form of leukemia. The high sugar level was a byproduct of his body struggling to deal with the situation.

He's had a bone marrow transplant and is considered cured. He has better sugar levels than anyone I know. But he still has an occasional problem with swollen feet.

Posted by: sistrum at April 25, 2012 11:28 PM (AyryN)

637 gushie makes note to self....

Inspiration for that lower back tattoo?

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 11:29 PM (jdZlf)

638 gushie makes note to self....

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 26, 2012 03:27 AM (r7Ddb)

http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/mugs/2a01/

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:30 PM (4ixH5)

639 What if Captain Cook had access to IE back when he was traversing the globe?

Posted by: Adriane at April 25, 2012 11:30 PM (VVZaH)

640 Tell us more.

They were perky. And about a mouthful in size. Just right.

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 11:31 PM (jdZlf)

641

Posted by: Alex at April 26, 2012 03:28 AM (jdZlf)

Paaancakes! *Drools*

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:32 PM (4ixH5)

642 Was it two rings *next* to each other and a chain off of one of the rings the other direction?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:34 PM (bxiXv)

643 Dammit, now I want pancakes, too.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:34 PM (bxiXv)

644 as it two rings *next* to each other and a chain off of one of the rings the other direction?

Yes, I believe so.

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 11:35 PM (jdZlf)

645 If ever I'm getting a molecule tattooed on me, it better be nitromethane.

Posted by: sistrum at April 25, 2012 11:35 PM (AyryN)

646 It could be serotonin or THC. It would be improper but common notation for THC. Dopamine has one ring.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:36 PM (bxiXv)

647 They were perky. And about a mouthful in size. Just right.

Posted by: Alex at April 26, 2012 03:31 AM (jdZlf)

With happy hard nips?

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:36 PM (4ixH5)

648 I've seen THC with 2 or 3 rings, it should be 3.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:37 PM (bxiXv)

649 http://www.worldofmolecules.com/drugs/thc.htm

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:37 PM (4ixH5)

650 THC molecule tattoo.

http://tinyurl.com/6tofams

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:39 PM (4ixH5)

651 I thought it might be THC, but it only had two rings and not three.

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 11:39 PM (jdZlf)

652 My tattoo molecule would be nitrocellulose. Or maybe a double-stranded RNA activated caspase oligomerizer, but I might run out of room.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:39 PM (bxiXv)

653 Maybe it was DNA...

Posted by: Adriane at April 25, 2012 11:39 PM (VVZaH)

654 Serotonin

Posted by: crosspatch at April 25, 2012 11:40 PM (ZbLJZ)

655 I've seen serotonin tattoos more than once. I've also seen THC tattoos with two rings, which is wrong, but we're talking about dopers here.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:40 PM (bxiXv)

656 With happy hard nips?

Like delicious little pencil erasers.

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 11:41 PM (jdZlf)

657 THC molecule tattoo.

http://tinyurl.com/6tofams

Hmm, the shape is similar, although that tattoo is way more cartoonish than hers.

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 11:42 PM (jdZlf)

658 If I were to get a tattoo, it would be of something cool. Like a female devil with big tits wielding a flying v.

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:43 PM (4ixH5)

659 Serotonin (L) and Dopamine (R) http://tinyurl.com/7kajfvw

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:43 PM (bxiXv)

660 Like delicious little pencil erasers.

Posted by: Alex at April 26, 2012 03:41 AM (jdZlf)

Can you send 'em to me so they can help me make a few corrections on these reports?

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:44 PM (4ixH5)

661 Ok, I'm thinking that it was either serotonin or misdrawn THC. Thanks everyone!

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 11:44 PM (jdZlf)

662 Can you send 'em to me so they can help me make a few corrections on these reports?

Sorry, I didn't bring 'em home with me.

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 11:45 PM (jdZlf)

663 Did Gushka abandon us?

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 11:45 PM (jdZlf)

664 Serotonin is somehow sexier than THC. Also, I am not sure whether to be shocked that the exotic dance videos on YouTube are about as titillating as waiting in line at the DMV.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:47 PM (bxiXv)

665 From the Gush on BookFace. http://tinyurl.com/72oqqmr

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:48 PM (4ixH5)

666 Patryn tatts are a must.

Holy crap. Someone else who remembers that series.

Posted by: Alex at April 25, 2012 11:48 PM (jdZlf)

667 Sorry, I didn't bring 'em home with me.

Posted by: Alex at April 26, 2012 03:45 AM (jdZlf)

Sad face

Posted by: Robert at April 25, 2012 11:48 PM (4ixH5)

668 My life will be 100% better when I bring home a stripper, take a picture and post it here. It's important to have goals.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:52 PM (bxiXv)

669 Hey, people like beat-downs: How about of a former Congressional candidate who seems to hate the US military and have a poor grasp of the facts: http://preview.tinyurl.com/7m36hlq Former *Republican* Mande Wilkes posted something awfully unwise about US troops on her blog (apparently, unless this is an epic hack). The link was then posted at Black Five. Urp.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2012 11:59 PM (bxiXv)

670 My life will be 100% better when I bring home a stripper, take a picture and post it here.

I am happy to help, as always ...

http://tinyurl.com/787s44c

Posted by: Adriane at April 25, 2012 11:59 PM (VVZaH)

671 when I bring home a stripper, take a picture and post it here.

Not to be nitpicking on your most epic adventure Mero but could we get a vid instead of pics... It's truly a noble quest and best of luck..

Posted by: beanervt at April 26, 2012 12:00 AM (KZLoo)

672 I think she was a sort of LaRouche/Paul "Republican," but not any sort of major player.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 12:01 AM (bxiXv)

673 I am happy to help, as always ... http://tinyurl.com/787s44c Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 03:59 AM (VVZaH) THIS HURTS ME.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 12:02 AM (bxiXv)

674 Not to be nitpicking on your most epic adventure Mero but could we get a vid instead of pics... It's truly a noble quest and best of luck.. Posted by: beanervt at April 26, 2012 04:00 AM (KZLoo) My video camera is not very good. And if there's anything going on worth filming, my hands will be busy. A picture would be better for everyone.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 12:04 AM (bxiXv)

675 I volunteer my services as an amateur director.

Posted by: Robert at April 26, 2012 12:06 AM (4ixH5)

676
Inspiration for that lower back tattoo?

Posted by: Alex at April 26, 2012 03:29 AM (jdZlf)

tease. no. but its funny. i am a well known coffee addict

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 26, 2012 12:08 AM (r7Ddb)

677 THIS HURTS ME.

Well, maybe ... but hey! not as much as this would ...

http://tinyurl.com/7l2rgwt

Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 12:12 AM (VVZaH)

678 My video camera is not very good.

Yeah and your mac cam is broke and skype is having problems,,,, ok Mero pics be fine..

and Adriane,, for 340 bucks I'd hope to get strippers out of better then a bucket..

Posted by: beanervt at April 26, 2012 12:16 AM (KZLoo)

679 http://tinyurl.com/7l2rgwt

Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 04:12 AM (VVZaH)

Metal! \m/

Posted by: Robert at April 26, 2012 12:27 AM (4ixH5)

680 It's dead, isn't it?

I believe it is.

Begin the sacramental rites and pray to the gods of dead ONTs.

Posted by: Robert at April 26, 2012 12:27 AM (4ixH5)

681 and Adriane,, for 340 bucks I'd hope to get strippers out of better then a bucket..

Here ya go ... on ice, just like champagne ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oyxLFD2IIw

Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 12:33 AM (VVZaH)

682 http://tinyurl.com/6sqre7q

so sexy....now if only the rest of the damn 6** line actually comes out I too can do this on my rig

Posted by: The Dude at April 26, 2012 12:37 AM (M8yfa)

683 Here ya go ... on ice, just like champagne ...

Eeeeuuuee Adriane,,, I should have stopped when I realized there was no one to fight,, after he threw the gloves...

Posted by: beanervt at April 26, 2012 12:52 AM (KZLoo)

684 I'm neither a driver or a gamer kind of guy but it does look like fun...

Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 12:53 AM (VVZaH)

685 Eeeeuuuee Adriane,,,

I'm not going to cry,
I'm not going to pout,
All this abuse on the ONT,
When really!, I'm just trying to help out...

Burma Shave

Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 12:56 AM (VVZaH)

686 I learned I can't do driving games without a steering wheel. AT least not have any fun. Someday I'll buy another one. Oh, and it's EA. Pretty much sworn them off.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 01:00 AM (bxiXv)

687 Oh, and I baked a personal-size cake from scratch because everyone was talking about sweets. Damn you.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 01:00 AM (bxiXv)

688 Devils' food, pineapple upside down, wedding?

Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 01:02 AM (VVZaH)

689 so sexy....

Hot damn.. even looks real in the rear views. nice engine sound. Very stimulating...

Posted by: beanervt at April 26, 2012 01:03 AM (KZLoo)

690 http://cup4cup.com/about/

apparently gluten free for baking ...

Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 01:04 AM (VVZaH)

691 721 Devils' food, pineapple upside down, wedding? Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 05:02 AM (VVZaH) Mexican chocolate and maple.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 01:05 AM (bxiXv)

692 723 http://cup4cup.com/about/ apparently gluten free for baking ... Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 05:04 AM (VVZaH) Look carefully, and you'll see me *not* buying a $20 bag of flour.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 01:07 AM (bxiXv)

693 I love that people are trying hard to come up with better GF food. But the *prices*. In early days, the only people doing that were hippies, so everything was like ground nuts in flour and corn in burritos and teff (leather) tortillas. It was not comfort food, shall we say.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 01:23 AM (bxiXv)

694 When really!, I'm just trying to help out...

hehee Ok Adriane.. Bshave back at cha...

Posted by: beanervt at April 26, 2012 01:24 AM (KZLoo)

695 Mexican chocolate and maple.

Chocolate and some chili powder or chocolate made in Mexico like Ibarra?

Combo sounds funky.

I'm limited to the bread machine until we get the oven fixed.

Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 01:26 AM (VVZaH)

696 Chocolate and some chili powder or chocolate made in Mexico like Ibarra? Combo sounds funky. Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 05:26 AM (VVZaH) Abuelita (Nestle) chocolate, partially melted in half and half, sweetened further with maple syrup. Add GF Bisquik and a beaten egg, a couple of pats of butter, stir, microwave for 30 seconds and stir, microwave for 2.5-3 minutes. It does sound *extremely* crazy but it makes a rich, moist consistent cake, slightly tangy/dark chocolate, with a sweet maple edge. I love maple. We're improvisational cooks in my family. I rarely measure and I made up that recipe on the fly.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 01:35 AM (bxiXv)

697 Cake...cake...cake...

Posted by: Robert at April 26, 2012 01:45 AM (4ixH5)

698 The cake is a lie, Robert. A moist, chocolatey, delicious lie.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 01:47 AM (bxiXv)

699 *Begins sharpening knives* Cake...cake...cake...

Posted by: Robert at April 26, 2012 01:48 AM (4ixH5)

700 We're improvisational cooks in my family. I rarely measure and I made up that recipe on the fly.

I burn water and can muck up a bowl of cereal and milk ...

Since it's in the microwave, I might be able to give it a try though ...

Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 01:57 AM (VVZaH)

701 I burn water and can muck up a bowl of cereal and milk ... Since it's in the microwave, I might be able to give it a try though ... Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 05:57 AM (VVZaH) I encourage you to experiment. Do you have homeowners' or renters' insurance?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 02:01 AM (bxiXv)

702 *Begins sharpening knives*

Cake...cake...cake...

http://tinyurl.com/cmcp6a3

Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 02:02 AM (VVZaH)

703 Also, keep an eye on it in the microwave. Depending on the container and the mixture, it may overflow before it cooks. Also, let me know if you know who the person is who came up with the idea that all microwaves should beep incessantly after use, and that the feature can't be turned off. I would like to stuff a raw turkey down their gullet.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 02:03 AM (bxiXv)

704 Dad is great. Give us chocolate cake.

Posted by: teej at April 26, 2012 02:09 AM (Y5LDn)

705 737 Dad is great. Give us chocolate cake. Posted by: teej at April 26, 2012 06:09 AM (Y5LDn) I keep telling you, I'm not your real father.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2012 02:11 AM (bxiXv)

706 Also, let me know if you know who the person is who came up with the idea that all microwaves should beep incessantly after use, and that the feature can't be turned off.

not me.

My claim to fame was the beeping toilet seat to remind guys to put them back for the ladies when they were done and the beeping vibrator low battery warning.

Got the pattens and everything, just no manufacturing facilities interested. Not even in China.

Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 02:12 AM (VVZaH)

707 Do you have homeowners' or renters' insurance?

flood.

Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 02:14 AM (VVZaH)

708 http://tinyurl.com/cmcp6a3 Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 06:02 AM (VVZaH) Oh I'd love to, uh, eat that out.

Posted by: Robert at April 26, 2012 02:18 AM (4ixH5)

709 Speaking of out, gotta run kids!

Good night, Mero.

Good night, Adriane.

Good morning, Vic.

Posted by: Robert at April 26, 2012 02:19 AM (4ixH5)

710 Night Robert!

Good night, some morons,
Good morning, some other morons.

but CAKE FOR ALL !!!!

Dad is great. Give us chocolate cake.
Bill Cosby, iirc....

Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 02:23 AM (VVZaH)

711 Open all the windows,
Shut the front door!
Bowing out for the night,
At comment, 744 ...

Posted by: Adriane at April 26, 2012 02:24 AM (VVZaH)

712 Good Morning Morons! Dayshift crowd coming in.

Good old Jimmeh Carter and the Iran fiasco. I used to have a co-worker who's father was on that abortion of a raid into Iran. Why did it fail? Piss poor planning caused by intra-service rivalry with nobody in charge. Every branch of the services wanted a piece of the action and nobody at the top took charge. Helos went in with no dust covers over the intakes in desert conditions.

But that pretty much sums up the Carter regime. The only thing that prevents him from being the worst President in history was the fact that he was in office for only 4 years. Iran was his creation in the first place. The Panama Canal was not his only foreign policy win.

No surprises there.

Posted by: Vic at April 26, 2012 02:44 AM (YdQQY)

713 Morning morons. MSNBC now repating like a broken automaton tht "Romney spent several months talking about what a severe conservative he is." Right. If only... The guy said it once, to a chorus of giggles from his right. What a joke MSNBC has become.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 26, 2012 02:55 AM (niZvt)

714 Mornin Vic,, 38 here,, still cold nites.

and as for karter,, at least he's not the "most damaging" prez now....... but he should have stuck to peanut farming and building cheap houses..

Posted by: beanervt at April 26, 2012 03:13 AM (KZLoo)

715 LOL, ya'll got our cold weather.

Posted by: Vic at April 26, 2012 03:19 AM (YdQQY)

716 ya'll got our cold weather.

Thanks a lot Vic..
Actually ever since that little warm spurt that only managed to tease and rile the climate tards it's gone back normal 30's nite 50's day

Posted by: beanervt at April 26, 2012 03:29 AM (KZLoo)

717 Well it was 37 here on the 24th.

Posted by: Vic at April 26, 2012 03:40 AM (YdQQY)

718 My sister in law insists on asking if everything I serve is "organic" loudly. "Are these peas organic? Is the chicken free range? Oh, I can't eat it then." Then she proceeds to eat everything anyways.

Posted by: Marie at April 26, 2012 05:09 AM (P9OJs)

719 Not happy about the knock concerning eating gluten free. For those of us with autoimmune conditions it's akin to telling us "Fuck you, eat that food laced with antifreeze! We enjoy watching you keel over from intestinal ulcerations and violent food poisoning style palpitations!".

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720 69 56 Pasta Putanesca.
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That's what I thought "pasta putanesca" meant, "hooker's pasta."

Is there a recipe for "slim big-breasted redhead's oil massage until happy ending" pasta? 'Cause I could sure use that.

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721

They were not Navy helos. They were Marine CH-53's from MCAS New River.

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