April 29, 2012
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Twenty Years Ago: The LA Riots
It was 20 years ago on April 29, 1992 that the Los Angeles riots began. At the time I was living just a few miles north of the epicenter and the riots forever colored my views on social unrest. Since then I have almost no tolerance for it and I've sworn to never be unarmed again.
Most people can still recall the beating of truck driver Reginald Denny. I remember it well plus the fact that I had passed through the same intersection just a few days before
Here Neo-neocon points out that even among the violence and mayhem there were real heroes who stepped up to save Denny:
"I was just helping a person who was in need"
The quote in the title of this piece is from Bobby Green, one of four black people who were heroes in the LA riots of twenty years ago. But there's no "just" about it; the acts were rays of hope in an otherwise bleak picture....Murphy saw that Denny had managed to drag himself back into the cab of the truck, which was moving very slowly. Murphy ran to the passenger side and jumped on the running board; he saw a woman named Lei Yuille comforting Denny inside the cab. Just then, a hulking guy named Bobby Green leaped on the running board of the other side. The two stared at each other through the windows, each fearing the other was a rioter.
...Green jumped in and drove the massive truck a terrifying three miles to the hospital, with Murphy's girlfriend Barnett guiding the way by driving in the car in front. Murphy clung to the outside of the truck for the entire journey, feigning to be a rioter by pounding on the outside of the vehicle as if he had taken it for loot.
From his position on the running board, Murphy was also able to guide Green, who couldn't see through the truck's cracked windows. "Each one of us could not carry on the task without the other," says Murphy. "Bobby couldn't drive the truck without me on the outside. Mr. Denny was attended to from the inside [by Yuille], and we couldn't drive the truck without Terry in the front of us."
The result was a perfect collaboration. "We all came together as a team," he says. "It was like it was meant to be."
Here's a video of the Denny beating:
And here is why certain blocks were not attacked:
A Dose of Optimism: American Companies Going Strong
Critics are always predicting the collapse of the Anglo-American capitalist model but somehow it never seems to happen.
To hear the doomsayers from a few years back tell it, this competitive capitalist model was inherently unstable and prone to collapse; the recession was just the final nail in the coffin.
Four years later, these predictions are looking rather silly. A Wall Street Journal analysis of the American marketplace shows that, rather than falling apart under the weight of the recession, large firms are doing extremely well and have taken advantage of the recession to streamline their operations.
Overall, though, the Journal found that S&P 500 companies have become more efficient-and more productive. In 2007, the companies generated an average of $378,000 in revenue for every employee on their payrolls. Last year, that figure rose to $420,000.
Which means that when the world economy does start to recover, the US will be primed to take best advantage of it.
These are the first five of a series. Sadly I've only read 1.5 of these so far.
Here at EveryGuyed we've debated and discussed some books that every man should read at some point in his life; books that speak to our past, present and future selves. These are the first 5 selections in a weekly series that will total 50 books in all.
8 Old-School Diseases Making a Comeback
And note that two of these are coming back purely due to cultural/political reasons. And that syphilis was almost killed off just a decade ago:
The discovery of penicillin in 1943 as well as a greater awareness of the dangers of unprotected sex led to increasingly fewer people presenting symptoms of the disease. In 2000, public health officials announced that syphilis was almost completely eradicated in the US. But over the next decade the number of people testing positive more than doubled.
This comment appeared in the Daily Mail UK.
Time and time again, it has been shown that the school's league tables are routinely fiddled in order to benefit this or that school. At the same time, our so-called education system - ruined by lefty, progressive teaching methods - can barely teach our children to write English properly. If your a younger reader, you probably didn't even notice the two deliberate mistakes in this comment.
Can you spot the errors?
Remembering the Violent Femmes
This post reminded me that it's been eons since I last listened to the Violent Femme's debut album. So I did and guess what - it's still pretty dang awesome. Here's just a taste:
Don't hide the tiger.
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Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
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The group. Yeah.
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Posted by: Zakn at April 29, 2012 05:39 PM (zyaZ1)
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Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 29, 2012 05:43 PM (QTHTd)
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Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 29, 2012 05:44 PM (d9lOz)
Posted by: Zakn at April 29, 2012 09:39 PM (zyaZ1)
If we play the crappy government created game does that mean we can skip that book on the reading list?
Posted by: buzzion at April 29, 2012 05:46 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 29, 2012 05:46 PM (qT8/2)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 29, 2012 05:46 PM (Ho2rs)
I haven't read "The Maltese Falcon". "1984" might work for both genders (like "Walden").
There's a female version of The Prince, by one Harriet Rubin: http://www.amazon.com/ The-Princessa-Machiavelli-Harriet-Rubin/ dp/0440508320
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 29, 2012 05:46 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 05:47 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 29, 2012 05:47 PM (QTHTd)
11 Sorry about fading in and out so much today. The lady that placed Molly with me from animal rescue called today, they had a puppy that the needed to find shelter for ASAP. It's been a very busy day
Posted by: Hummingbird at April 29, 2012 09:44 PM (R5yLq)
So does that mean that Molly has a new playmate and SoS has a new permanent canine roommate?
Posted by: buzzion at April 29, 2012 05:48 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 05:48 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: grease monkey at April 29, 2012 05:50 PM (VSWPU)
Woot! ONT. Although I'd argue the work done on the Gaming thread earlier almost made it an honory ONT.
The only thing I have to ad to this, is thankfully the midwest is highly riot resistant. Should one happen however, I'm locking my doors and arming my 12 gauge. I figure with the 15 slugs I keep around and the 2 boxes of skeet ammo I should be able to hold off anyone who wanders into the suburbs to make trouble.
Posted by: tsrblke at April 29, 2012 05:51 PM (22rSN)
Last night, I parked my car in the dark, then spent an hour walking up to a ridge in the hope that I could photograph a moose in the AM. I think I deserve a pass on "Walden".
Posted by: fluffy at April 29, 2012 05:51 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 05:51 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Hummingbird at April 29, 2012 05:52 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: tcn at April 29, 2012 05:53 PM (WhSRj)
Posted by: fluffy at April 29, 2012 09:51 PM (z9HTb)
Cripes, You could just hang out on my sister's back porch and wait for one to wander into the yard. That's pretty much how moose-hunting goes in my family these days. No more slogging through the swamp and hauling out by canoe. Just plug 'em, gut 'em and freeze 'em.
Posted by: tcn at April 29, 2012 05:55 PM (WhSRj)
Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 29, 2012 05:56 PM (7yvLv)
Posted by: The Golden Gate Bridge Suiciide Crisis Line at April 29, 2012 05:57 PM (qhHI4)
Posted by: Hummingbird at April 29, 2012 05:57 PM (R5yLq)
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Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 29, 2012 05:59 PM (npr0X)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 29, 2012 05:59 PM (RvlzX)
36 #21
Well Stuck said he would only take the dog until we could find another home for it. I doubt that will end up being how this works out. Molly has really taken to the puppy which surprised me, but I'm very happy about it.
Posted by: Hummingbird at April 29, 2012 09:57 PM (R5yLq)
well as you can see I am clearly psychic. How many numbers does JJS need for the lottery maybe I'll guess some if she agrees to split the winnings.
Posted by: buzzion at April 29, 2012 06:00 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at April 29, 2012 06:00 PM (ZOf1l)
Concord was over 200 years old. It had been the goal of a British infantry attack in 1775. It was not 'deep in the woods'.
Posted by: fluffy at April 29, 2012 06:00 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: MrCaniac at April 29, 2012 06:02 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: Hummingbird at April 29, 2012 09:52 PM (R5yLq)
As in Rooster Cogburn?
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 29, 2012 06:03 PM (NVu2l)
And even when he's being all Chicago-style in his advice, he does keep coming back to "if you do stuff to make your subjects like you, they'll support you and you won't have to worry about rebellions."
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 29, 2012 06:03 PM (4rD2K)
44 Syphilis making a comeback? I never thought it left. I guess I need to get out of the 80's because it was still around back then.
Posted by: MrCaniac at April 29, 2012 10:02 PM (1grxW)
If you read the article I think we can thank Bill Clinton for the comeback of syphilis.
Posted by: buzzion at April 29, 2012 06:03 PM (GULKT)
I should have gone to your sister's place.
They had a chance to be all famous and be on the interwebz, but they didn't even show up. Lazy, cud-chewin' bastids.
Posted by: fluffy at April 29, 2012 06:03 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 29, 2012 06:04 PM (7yvLv)
Posted by: The Golden Gate Bridge Suiciide Crisis Line at April 29, 2012 06:05 PM (qhHI4)
Now, there's places in New England which are pretty damn remote to this day, but Concord - lol, no.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 29, 2012 06:05 PM (QTHTd)
No kidding. Monica Lewinsky is lucky she still has a nose
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 29, 2012 06:06 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 29, 2012 06:06 PM (4rD2K)
Posted by: Lord Humungus at April 29, 2012 06:06 PM (Yv6gq)
Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 29, 2012 06:07 PM (7yvLv)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 29, 2012 06:07 PM (qT8/2)
Posted by: The Golden Gate Bridge Suiciide Crisis Line at April 29, 2012 06:07 PM (qhHI4)
Posted by: Scobface at April 29, 2012 06:08 PM (IoNBC)
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 29, 2012 06:08 PM (4rD2K)
Posted by: Red in Maine at April 29, 2012 06:09 PM (22dUg)
Thoreau had someone to do his laundry, and someone to cook and clean for him. But they were servants, so it counted as "living alone" as far as he was concerned.
So, Thoreau was a rich dem?
Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 29, 2012 06:09 PM (7yvLv)
They had a chance to be all famous and be on the interwebz, but they didn't even show up. Lazy, cud-chewin' bastids.
Posted by: fluffy at April 29, 2012 10:03 PM (z9HTb)
31.5 Miles north of Kenai, and turn left.
Posted by: tcn at April 29, 2012 06:09 PM (WhSRj)
Posted by: Bill R. at April 29, 2012 06:09 PM (ZjexS)
Posted by: Bob mostly-undead Saget at April 29, 2012 06:09 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: jenny tries too hard at April 29, 2012 06:10 PM (snRY5)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at April 29, 2012 06:10 PM (ZOf1l)
Posted by: Scobface at April 29, 2012 06:10 PM (IoNBC)
I go through the Walden Street stoplight on Rte 2 on my way to work, as do tens of thousands of others. The pond is about two miles from downtown Concord. The place was probably more remote in 1945 than in 1845.
Posted by: fluffy, Masshole at April 29, 2012 06:10 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Mel at April 29, 2012 06:11 PM (yvyja)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at April 29, 2012 06:11 PM (ZOf1l)
Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 29, 2012 06:11 PM (7yvLv)
Charlestown, part of Boston.
Posted by: fluffy, Masshole at April 29, 2012 06:12 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 29, 2012 10:07 PM (qT8/2)
Yeah but we're all aware of that.
Posted by: buzzion at April 29, 2012 06:12 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Pooter Hound at April 29, 2012 06:13 PM (ufLRj)
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Some cutesy rhymes and words and stuff go here ...
Posted by: Adriane at April 29, 2012 06:13 PM (VVZaH)
It has been a tragic, and likely fatal, fall...
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 06:13 PM (3aXbg)
Thoreau lived a simple life on the pond -- and had dinner with friends in town most nights. He lived alone -- and had servants to take care of the necessities.
He wasn't some hippie poet: his family ran the first pencil manufacturing company in America. It took a lot of cash to keep Mr. Thoreau's life simple.
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 29, 2012 06:14 PM (4rD2K)
Posted by: Scobface at April 29, 2012 06:15 PM (IoNBC)
Re: Dealing with Grammar Snobs
Is the first grammar error "school's"? It should be the plural possessive "schools'", right?
Posted by: Pete in TX at April 29, 2012 06:15 PM (CbXxg)
Posted by: Bob mostly-undead Saget at April 29, 2012 06:16 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: t-bird at April 29, 2012 06:16 PM (FcR7P)
One wonders how many innocent people will die when George Zimmerman is found innocent?
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 06:16 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: mpfs at April 29, 2012 06:16 PM (KnnQh)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 29, 2012 06:17 PM (Gk3SS)
Is the first grammar error "school's"? It should be the plural possessive "schools'", right?
As I posted earlier, damned apostrophe's.
Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 29, 2012 06:17 PM (7yvLv)
Of course, but one shouldn't brag among the plebs.
Posted by: pompous grammar pedant at April 29, 2012 06:17 PM (nEUpB)
Of the 5 books, 1984 is the only one I've read.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2012 06:18 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 06:19 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: Hummingbird at April 29, 2012 06:20 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Zakn at April 29, 2012 06:20 PM (zyaZ1)
Posted by: Hayabusa at April 29, 2012 06:20 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 29, 2012 06:20 PM (qT8/2)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 29, 2012 06:20 PM (RvlzX)
Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at April 29, 2012 06:20 PM (enix6)
IÂ’ve got the concept for the next great TV rality show.
It’s August 2013. After Obama's Carteresque defeat byMitt Romne- Barry took seven states, Bloomberg’s late candidacy didn’t hurt Mitt but cost Obama both New York and California, and the GOP took back the Senate and picked up seats in the House- Barry and Michele are at loose ends. A planned move to New York City fell through when that cushy job at the UN proved less than the expected sure thing; and for some reason the Obamas were turned down by the boards at all five cooperatives to which they applied. The girls are in boarding school in Switzerland. Both Barry and Michelle have scored jobs on corporate boards and are making decent money giving speeches, but they’re so bored. NBC calls with an offer, and the money is right. “Honey, I’ve always wanted to be in show business,” Michelle says. So they head to Wasilla and move in with the Palins and a dozen cameramen, techs and producers.
“Todd, Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner” is an insant hit. In the first episode, Todd takes Michele moose hunting; then Michele takes Todd to get his butt waxed. Meanwhile Sarah and Barry are flirting in the hot tub. “So tell me, Mr. President, how much money did your campaign raise from the Muslim brotherhood?” And the laughs just keep coming.
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at April 29, 2012 06:20 PM (zdnIh)
Posted by: jimi ray at April 29, 2012 06:21 PM (FcOR4)
Posted by: Dagny, warrior queen at April 29, 2012 06:21 PM (4yXmp)
Posted by: jenny tries too hard at April 29, 2012 06:21 PM (snRY5)
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 29, 2012 06:22 PM (NVu2l)
Posted by: Sharkman at April 29, 2012 06:22 PM (wMsKw)
Posted by: Truman North at April 29, 2012 06:22 PM (I2LwF)
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/155224
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 29, 2012 06:23 PM (Dd+yB)
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at April 29, 2012 06:24 PM (ZHge+)
Posted by: mpfs at April 29, 2012 06:25 PM (KnnQh)
Sun Tzu needs to be read slowly with careful consideration due to the high information density. The lessons are still fresh and timely though.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 29, 2012 06:25 PM (bezvC)
Posted by: jimi ray at April 29, 2012 06:25 PM (FcOR4)
What I would like to know, and I think I'm entitled to an answer:
--How many hockey moms have you eaten, Mr. President?
--Do you hunt, kill, dress, and cook them yourself? Or do you have "people" who do that for you?
--How would you describe the taste and texture of hockey mom, Mr. President? Tough? Tougher? Crunchy?
--Under what specific provision of the Constitution does it authorize the president to eat people?
--Was this taste for human flesh something you also acquired while a boy in Indonesia? Or is there a darker history behind this?
America wants answers.
Posted by: Hayabusa at April 29, 2012 06:25 PM (B+qrE)
Obama eats dogs and hockey moms."
No, hockey dads.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 29, 2012 06:26 PM (Dd+yB)
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It deserves all the credit Steyn gives it. You can already see some of the things mentioned coming to be, for example people treating pets as replacement children, and some on the way, for example mass euthanasia.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 06:26 PM (3aXbg)
Lou Cannon's "Official Negligence:" is a densely thorough history of the Rodney King beating and subsequent trials. Worth reading.
Posted by: boniface ballers at April 29, 2012 06:26 PM (l3RZ9)
Me too. Just got back a few hours ago. I say Geraldo say at 7 :30 Obama was going to give a speech?
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at April 29, 2012 06:26 PM (ZHge+)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 29, 2012 06:26 PM (RvlzX)
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 29, 2012 06:27 PM (4rD2K)
Spotted both of the grammar errors but it took longer than I would have liked to get the first one.
Posted by: Darles Chickens at April 29, 2012 06:27 PM (NsRPe)
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He's going to answer one of life's eternal questions - lap top, tastes great or less filing?
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 06:27 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at April 29, 2012 06:27 PM (ZOf1l)
Posted by: Zakn at April 29, 2012 06:27 PM (zyaZ1)
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I've got something like tense. Actually not tense, but logic.
"Time and time again, it has been shown . . ." is the past. (The tense is actually the present perfect, but it's describing events that were completed in the past.)
"At the same time, schools can barely . . ." is the present. The past can't be "the same time" as the present.
Anyone else?
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 06:27 PM (pMd+I)
So what's the important news conference Obama is going to hold in a few minutes?
Where ya hearing this? Not on Fox.
Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 29, 2012 06:27 PM (7yvLv)
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at April 29, 2012 06:27 PM (ZHge+)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 29, 2012 06:28 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Zakn at April 29, 2012 06:29 PM (zyaZ1)
On the other hand "The Maltese Falcon" may be worth it. That scene in the movie where he goes to the bookstore with a quart of rye...
Posted by: Jimbo at April 29, 2012 06:29 PM (O3R/2)
Noted and added to my list of things to do 18-1.
The other nite the movie The Thirteenth Floor was mentioned....I checked it out and thought it was pretty good. It's available free on Crackle (but they show commercials).
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2012 06:29 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 29, 2012 06:29 PM (NVu2l)
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 06:30 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: mpfs at April 29, 2012 06:30 PM (KnnQh)
Grammer was the guy who played Frazier on NBC.
Using words correctly, and that word 'rightly' was wrongly, is not found among the LA Riots meme. Please find a brick and hit someone with it. Your situational grammar will fix itself spontaneously... 'stuff ' is what you steall in the riot , after applying that brick you've been carrying.
So, to review:
Grammar is Grammer is Frazier.
Bricks, when thrown, are for sharing.
Stuff is what you can steal during a riot.
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Posted by: enter sandman, sometime commenter, fulltime troublemaker at April 29, 2012 06:31 PM (zxaA2)
Posted by: ddiddly at April 29, 2012 06:31 PM (XKLL8)
Posted by: t-bird at April 29, 2012 06:31 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 10:30 PM (3aXbg)
There's no way there's enough protein in that.
Posted by: tsrblke at April 29, 2012 06:31 PM (22rSN)
could you live on multi vitamins and sugar water?
If you add sunlight to the mix, yes.
Let us know how it works out, OK?
Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 29, 2012 06:31 PM (7yvLv)
Each generation has to learn the same hard lessons. The same shit happened during the Watts riots in the 60's and businesses fled the area, and people whined about the lack of locally available groceries, etc. and there was 20+ years of relative peace after that. The next generation didn't learn from the previous
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 29, 2012 06:32 PM (bezvC)
Posted by: Dagny, warrior queen at April 29, 2012 06:32 PM (4yXmp)
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I got the impression that "fiddled" without a preposition is some Britishism, and although "in order" is redundant, it's not bad grammar. "Education" wouldn't necessarily be wrong, because the system itself isn't educational. A DVD or an experience could be educational. Cf. "management system" and "irrigation system." You don't say "irrigational system."
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 06:33 PM (pMd+I)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 29, 2012 06:33 PM (qT8/2)
Posted by: Secundus at April 29, 2012 06:33 PM (laT8a)
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at April 29, 2012 06:33 PM (ZHge+)
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 06:33 PM (pMd+I)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 06:34 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Barakus Obamus at April 29, 2012 06:34 PM (FcR7P)
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Oh god YES, that's it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 06:34 PM (pMd+I)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 29, 2012 06:35 PM (npr0X)
I lived in L.A. during the years leading up to the Rodney King riots, and left the city to go on active duty in the Army just weeks prior to the riots. When I lived in the city, my buddies and I would frequently go to B&B Guns in North Hollywood to buy guns and ammo. Pretty much every time we were there, we noticed that the place was full of Koreans, buying just about every type of bullet-launcher imaginable. We used to joke to each other: "Wow, looks like the Koreans are arming themselves to the teeth. Maybe they know something we don't."
Maybe they did.
Posted by: Hayabusa at April 29, 2012 06:35 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 29, 2012 06:35 PM (Dd+yB)
+1. Hoffer had a window into the minds of O'bots before O'bots even existed.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 29, 2012 06:35 PM (bezvC)
v5IXp you're playing footsie with the Banhammer at this point.
Posted by: Mætenloch at April 29, 2012 06:36 PM (+B3Nr)
Posted by: Zakn at April 29, 2012 06:36 PM (zyaZ1)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 06:36 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Hayabusa at April 29, 2012 06:36 PM (B+qrE)
There was once a very earnest conversation amongst some of my co-workers over what provides the best source of protein. None of them understood why I was leaning against the wall because I was laughing so hard.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 29, 2012 06:37 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Marion Barry at April 29, 2012 06:38 PM (IoNBC)
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 10:30 PM (3aXbg)
Only if you add the missing ingredient: sunlight. 24 hours a day. It is said one can live on love, but as the Secret Service (which isn't very secretive) proves, you can run out of money.
Fall back on living on sunlight. What could go wrong?
http://tinyurl.com/879wktt
She tried. Just a few more photons...
Posted by: enter sandman, sometime commenter, fulltime troublemaker at April 29, 2012 06:38 PM (zxaA2)
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at April 29, 2012 06:38 PM (ZHge+)
Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 29, 2012 06:38 PM (7yvLv)
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 06:38 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 29, 2012 06:38 PM (bxiXv)
132: Geraldo's show started with a rerun of hs show a year ago, to mark the anniversary of the bin Laden raid.
Rivera's nose is buried so far up Obama's ass.
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at April 29, 2012 06:38 PM (zdnIh)
Posted by: Tough,Tougher,Crunchy at April 29, 2012 06:38 PM (c3mby)
And Dorothy Malone (the bookstore girl) was smokin' hot.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living.... at April 29, 2012 06:39 PM (VW0I/)
Posted by: Freida at April 29, 2012 06:39 PM (deXWE)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at April 29, 2012 06:39 PM (p7SSh)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 29, 2012 10:37 PM (Gk3SS)
Me thinks I missed something there. (Unless you're just alluding to the fact that americans get far more protein than they actually need and so protein supplements are a waste?)
Posted by: tsrblke at April 29, 2012 06:39 PM (22rSN)
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Hey I know the answer to that one...
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 29, 2012 06:39 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 29, 2012 10:37 PM (Gk3SS)
Spending time in the gutter provides so much more entertainment doesn't it?
Posted by: buzzion at April 29, 2012 06:39 PM (GULKT)
Now, see, bebe's response that idiot libs blamed the Koreans for arming themselves back '92 just made me sad, because, dammit people suck. This, though, gives me a little glimmer of hope back.Posted by: jenny tries too hard at April 29, 2012 06:40 PM (snRY5)
Posted by: garrett at April 29, 2012 06:40 PM (cDpBS)
Eh, thanks I'm officially down in the gutter with y'all now.
Sorry, I was trying to take the high road this time 
Posted by: tsrblke at April 29, 2012 06:40 PM (22rSN)
Posted by: mpfs at April 29, 2012 06:41 PM (KnnQh)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 29, 2012 06:41 PM (qT8/2)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 29, 2012 10:37 PM (Gk3SS)
Me thinks I missed something there. (Unless you're just alluding to the fact that americans get far more protein than they actually need and so protein supplements are a waste?)
Posted by: tsrblke at April 29, 2012 10:39 PM (22rSN)
Guess alexthechick gets to laugh a little more.
Posted by: buzzion at April 29, 2012 06:41 PM (GULKT)
Wait. There's a high road around here?
Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 29, 2012 06:41 PM (7yvLv)
B&B Guns is also famous as the gun store they LAPD ran to to get rifles during the infamous North Hollywood shoot-out.
Posted by: Mætenloch at April 29, 2012 06:42 PM (+B3Nr)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 29, 2012 06:42 PM (bxiXv)
Guess alexthechick gets to laugh a little more.
At least she shared w/the rest of the class!
Really Bebe? Plain Chocolate? I can add almost anything...but I was thinking Peanut Butter Cups would be good.
Posted by: garrett at April 29, 2012 06:43 PM (cDpBS)
Posted by: Scobface at April 29, 2012 06:44 PM (IoNBC)
No. No, I was not.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 29, 2012 06:44 PM (Gk3SS)
Can't miss with peanut butter and chocolate combo. I once did a peanut butter ice cream (using chunky PB) and topped it with choc sauce. That was a hit.
Posted by: someone at April 29, 2012 06:45 PM (bqjJT)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at April 29, 2012 10:39 PM (p7SSh)
You are so right. I would rather read that book.
Posted by: Jimbo at April 29, 2012 06:45 PM (O3R/2)
The ampersand is a lead-in character for a series of HTML codes.
"&" should produce an ampersand here --> &
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 29, 2012 06:46 PM (bezvC)
Posted by: Zakn at April 29, 2012 06:46 PM (zyaZ1)
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 29, 2012 06:47 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 29, 2012 06:48 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: mpfs at April 29, 2012 06:48 PM (KnnQh)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 29, 2012 06:48 PM (bezvC)
Posted by: Mætenloch at April 29, 2012 10:42 PM (+B3Nr)
BB Guns was a great place. One-stop shopping for all your firearm-related needs. Sadly, sometime after the North Hollywood shootout, they went out of business. I understand it had something to do with some sort of dispute between the business partners. Plus, the fact that the L.A. city council has been doing its level best for years to run all of the gun stores out of town.
Posted by: Hayabusa at April 29, 2012 06:48 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: L Rob in OK at April 29, 2012 06:48 PM (7yvLv)
Posted by: Chris R, red in NY-9 at April 29, 2012 06:49 PM (NFcOS)
& & &
Jack London is forgotten. Manly books?
The Call of the Wild
White Fang
Books for the strong?
Shelby Foote's volumes on "The Civil War"
Those suckers are heavy.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at April 29, 2012 06:49 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 29, 2012 06:49 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 06:49 PM (pMd+I)
Posted by: True Fact at April 29, 2012 06:50 PM (cDpBS)
It was precisely that type of situation. If you knew why I was laughing, you were laughing as well. If you did not, I was not possibly going to explain.
Ages and ages ago, the Good Ex-BF and I went to see Like Water For Chocolate. The end of the movie is this grand dramatic emotional scene where the lovers finally get together after years and years. (Spoiler ahead) Being me, I leaned over and whispered to him "I'd have him croak from a heart attack right now". Swear by the insanity of cthulhu, as the words were coming out of my mouth, Our Hero has a heart attack and dies. We both stare gape mouthed and then he hisses at me "You made that happen!" I slap both hands over my mouth trying to stifle the hysterical laughter, he's doubled over because he's laughing so hard and the people all around us, many of whom are weeping at the great emotional scene, look like they're going to kill us. There was no possible way I could explain it.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 29, 2012 06:50 PM (Gk3SS)
But the wine and the song, like the ampersand, have all gone.
Posted by: derit at April 29, 2012 06:50 PM (FQlFL)
I preferred the two-sentence version for the intro
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 29, 2012 06:50 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Truman North at April 29, 2012 06:51 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: AltonJackson
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The worst punishment for pixy is to ignore it. It loves to make an ass of you, so don't touch HTML.
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 06:51 PM (pMd+I)
Who's got the shrooms?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 29, 2012 06:52 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 29, 2012 06:53 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: teej at April 29, 2012 06:53 PM (auda5)
How uniquely un-handy. This probably comes from the same people who would offer square wheels on cars as a mandatory option, and insist the lumpy ride is a feature.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 29, 2012 06:54 PM (bezvC)
Wasn't that one of the Ewok's infatuations (that sometimes included visuals) from the last congressional race?
Posted by: someone at April 29, 2012 06:54 PM (bqjJT)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
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I love the appearance of books that floated in the bathtub for a few hours, then got turned spine-side-up and drained.
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 06:54 PM (pMd+I)
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He builds robots that either clean our carpet or shoot you in the head?
Oh and it is a crime that he didn't hand Barney Frank his ass last election?
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 06:54 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: Jimbo at April 29, 2012 06:55 PM (O3R/2)
Stop that this instant. There will be no quoting/paraphrasing of 1974 pop death music.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 29, 2012 06:55 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: Tjexcite at April 29, 2012 06:55 PM (ovjF+)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 29, 2012 06:55 PM (qT8/2)
Wasn't that one of the Ewok's infatuations (that sometimes included visuals) from the last congressional race?
Posted by: someone at April 29, 2012 10:54 PM (bqjJT)
He ran against Barney Frank.
Posted by: buzzion at April 29, 2012 06:55 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 29, 2012 06:56 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Sean Bielat at April 29, 2012 06:56 PM (snRY5)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 06:56 PM (JKNDp)
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Shhhh. The Ewok hasn't stalked him lately. Don't put any ideas in his head.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 06:56 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: booger at April 29, 2012 06:57 PM (HI6wa)
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 29, 2012 06:57 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 29, 2012 06:57 PM (bxiXv)
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Trader Joe's has gourmet versions of dime-store candy. Peanut butter cups and Almond Joys are addictive. I have to wear blinkers in that aisle.
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 06:58 PM (pMd+I)
Posted by: lowandslow at April 29, 2012 06:58 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 29, 2012 06:58 PM (bezvC)
Posted by: Mr mysterio at April 29, 2012 06:59 PM (3QDOi)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 29, 2012 07:00 PM (qT8/2)
Posted by: AltonJackson
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Pixy has done to bold and italics what Democrats have done to free water and garbage collection in California.
Yes, they both used to be free in this state. Wrap your head around that.
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 07:00 PM (pMd+I)
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 10:58 PM (pMd+I)
So are you turning right or left, or do you just throw up the hazards?
Posted by: buzzion at April 29, 2012 07:00 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Chris R, red in NY-9 at April 29, 2012 07:00 PM (NFcOS)
Posted by: Truman North at April 29, 2012 07:00 PM (I2LwF)
I have to admit it's not the first snake I've found in the house, but it's the first one I can't blame on the cat.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2012 07:00 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Chris R, red in NY-9 at April 29, 2012 07:01 PM (NFcOS)
Posted by: lowandslow at April 29, 2012 07:01 PM (GZitp)
*****
Not quite related, but it reminded me of something. There is a Grimm entry in Wiki, but also a Grimm characters entry in Wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creatures_of_Grimm
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 07:01 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 29, 2012 10:58 PM (bezvC)
Its going to be all about getting that nice new 50" HDTV
Posted by: buzzion at April 29, 2012 07:01 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Zakn at April 29, 2012 07:02 PM (zyaZ1)
I have to admit it's not the first snake I've found in the house, but it's the first one I can't blame on the cat.
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Don't hurt it. Just scoot it out the door.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 07:02 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 29, 2012 07:02 PM (Rhie+)
****
I miss coffee with Barry.
Posted by: Kal Penn at April 29, 2012 07:02 PM (3aXbg)
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Remember how those frightened and starving folk in New Orleans needed those flat screen t.v.'s to survive the tragedy?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 07:03 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 29, 2012 11:00 PM (Gk3SS)
Hey Alex, you might enjoy the new Justice League trailer
http://tinyurl.com/7fgbvly
Posted by: buzzion at April 29, 2012 07:04 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 29, 2012 07:04 PM (Gk3SS)
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They'll all be united when it's time to blame Whitey.
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 07:04 PM (pMd+I)
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 29, 2012 07:04 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 29, 2012 07:05 PM (RvlzX)
Trouble is, here in Massachusetts not only the media but the entire state government functions as an arm of the Democratic Party. If he wants to get his message out he'll have to pay for every letter.
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 29, 2012 07:05 PM (4rD2K)
Posted by: CAC at April 29, 2012 07:05 PM (/11RO)
Like what?
Posted by: AD at April 29, 2012 07:06 PM (ZlrvH)
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Yes?
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 07:06 PM (pMd+I)
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 29, 2012 07:07 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 29, 2012 07:07 PM (qT8/2)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 07:07 PM (JKNDp)
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What's misogynist in the film? I didn't see the movie as I heard it was crap, but I can't remember anything you could critizice in the book...
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 07:07 PM (3aXbg)
I need a snake whisperer.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2012 07:08 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 07:08 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: t-bird at April 29, 2012 07:08 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Scobface at April 29, 2012 07:09 PM (IoNBC)
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Well, if you survived the hours of rampant cannibalism in the hours before they got food to them you would understand.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 07:09 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: Daybrother at April 29, 2012 07:09 PM (g1fN1)
Oh man, all of his stuff is genius. I will admit, though, that the Rorschach and Deadpool Show ones are my favorites.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 29, 2012 07:09 PM (Gk3SS)
http://tinyurl.com/7atlyyy
Posted by: booger at April 29, 2012 07:10 PM (HI6wa)
Sorry, I was looking up the article chemjeff.
the things I heard is that he stole some money from his own campaign in 2010, that he has no intention of living in the district (in fact, hasn't spent any time here since he lost in 2010) and that he as a registered and active Democrat until 2008.
I only know for sure about the last two.
Posted by: Truman North at April 29, 2012 07:11 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 29, 2012 11:09 PM (Gk3SS)
He finally did a Zero Hour #6
Posted by: buzzion at April 29, 2012 07:11 PM (GULKT)
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They used to be sitting right there to be had in the Pixy editor, which is now nothing more than plastic ice cream. Now you have to hand-type in square brackets for bolds and itals.
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 07:11 PM (pMd+I)
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Actually I'm more thinking long term storage now. I live in the burbs, not the city, but it would likely be a good idea to have an emergency food cache in the next few years.
Soda, peanuts, multivitamins - they all last a long time in the containers they come in, right?
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 07:12 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2012 11:08 PM (ccXZP)
I'm a bit busy right now rolling in my millions. You'll have to wait.
Posted by: Harry Potter at April 29, 2012 07:12 PM (22rSN)
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Are you from the South? That's what we call them here. My mother, as a child, was chased by one, or so she swore. Of course as she grew older she realized that it was scared crapless and was making tracks for its burrow. She just happened to be blocking that path.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 07:13 PM (piMMO)
sorry about that
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Yeah, and all while telling me bold is "no problem."
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 07:14 PM (pMd+I)
Posted by: Shepard Smith at April 29, 2012 07:14 PM (IoNBC)
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 11:12 PM (3aXbg)
You need things that are "complete protein" though. and I don't think peanuts quite meet that requirement.
Soybeans however do meet that burden. (See: Wikipedia: http://goo.gl/28KqR)
Dried Soybeans shoudl work.
Posted by: tsrblke at April 29, 2012 07:14 PM (22rSN)
When I was a kid we called them "black racers." They're rat snakes. Very beneficial animals.
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Hate to go all herpetological on y'all, but:
2 common black snakes in the eastern US--
1) Black racer, Coluber constrictor, smaller, faster, very active & nervous, eats lots of rodents
2) Black rat snake, Elaphe obsoleta, larger (up to 7 ft +) slower, more calm, also eats lots of rodents, and birds--it is fairly arboreal. Has a whitish throat/belly.
They are easy to tell apart if you've studied them, but can easily be confused.
Oh, and both harmless to humans.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 29, 2012 07:15 PM (Dd+yB)
Soda, peanuts, multivitamins - they all last a long time in the containers they come in, right?
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There was a post here about folks who are growing and milling their own wheat and somewhere within the article it was mentioned that wheat is perfect for stocking up as un-milled wheat can last for years. The funny thing is that they compared it sarcastically to arugula.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 07:15 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Shepard Smith at April 29, 2012 07:16 PM (IoNBC)
Posted by: Mr mysterio at April 29, 2012 07:16 PM (3QDOi)
Their peanut butter cups taste funky too.
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GIRL! Your taste buds are getting funky.
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 07:16 PM (pMd+I)
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Come on, when have we ever had to worry about a MA Republican screwing over the conservatives after they swept him into office?
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 07:16 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: Truman North at April 29, 2012 07:17 PM (I2LwF)
Damn fine impersonation on that last one. What do you mean by "active?" Unless he was a Dem-in-name-only, our mobies could use training from this guy.
Given his background, I find it really hard to believe he'd toss away his future and risk jail-time by stealing from the campaign. A guy like John Edwards did that because he was an arrogant idiot. This guy isn't an idiot. I guess it wouldn't be the first time something like that happened--but I still find it hard to believe.
Posted by: AD at April 29, 2012 07:18 PM (ZlrvH)
Posted by: t-bird at April 29, 2012 07:19 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Scobface at April 29, 2012 07:19 PM (IoNBC)
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THEY'RE RAPING WOMEN IN THE SUPER DOME!!!!!
Posted by: MSM, and Shep Smith at April 29, 2012 07:19 PM (piMMO)
Ah. Good times.
"Children of Men." A great novel. The movie was an abortion. Completely misrepresented the theme. Oh well, I still like PD James's Inspector Dalgliesh.
Posted by: Jimbo at April 29, 2012 07:19 PM (O3R/2)
lol 18-1... but here's the thing:
MA-4 has been packed with red voters due to gerrymandering around Boston. I don't think he's failing to pull in cash because he's not conservative enough; I think someone around here smells a rat.
That rat might be JK3 for all I know, but there's something going on here that I can't figure out.
Posted by: Truman North at April 29, 2012 07:19 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 29, 2012 07:20 PM (Rhie+)
Posted by: Mr mysterio at April 29, 2012 07:20 PM (3QDOi)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 07:21 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Joe Biden at April 29, 2012 07:21 PM (ESUUY)
If your a younger reader, you probably didn't even notice the two deliberate mistakes in this comment.
I was taught that if you wanted to set off an idea when a comma, semi-colon or parentheses were not right you used a double dash with a space between the beginning and end of them. Singe dashes were only to be used without spaces in terms like sub-par.
But maybe my teachers were full of shit.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 29, 2012 07:21 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 29, 2012 07:21 PM (qT8/2)
Posted by: jake at April 29, 2012 07:22 PM (AZ8Mb)
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 29, 2012 07:22 PM (JMmQ9)
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What we call racers are completely black.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 07:22 PM (piMMO)
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I guess it wouldn't!
I still gotta charge you for it.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 29, 2012 07:23 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: MSM, and Shep Smith at April 29, 2012 11:20 PM (piMMO)
I'm glad someone else saw that, WFT is Dehydrated water?
Posted by: tsrblke at April 29, 2012 07:23 PM (22rSN)
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YOU'RE
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 07:23 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 07:24 PM (JKNDp)
I heard the theory that the yeast had gone bad. Eldest sons were, apparently, given a double dose of bread. It poisoned them. The Hebrews threw out all the yeast and ate only unleavened bread. Yahweh is crafty.
Posted by: Jimbo at April 29, 2012 07:24 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: t-bird at April 29, 2012 07:24 PM (FcR7P)
"What's the difference between hockey mom and pit bull? A pit bull is delicious."--The SCOAMF
What's interesting about this quote, and that I haven't seen commented on, is if the SCOAMF has a basis for comparison between hockey mom and pit bulls, it means he has eaten both. Otherwise, how would he know they taste different? How would he have a preference for one over the other?
Obama eats dogs and hockey moms.
Posted by: Hayabusa at April 29, 2012 10:20 PM (B+qrE)
Actually, he prefers former Duke basketball players.
Posted by: Reggie Love at April 29, 2012 07:26 PM (1grxW)
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THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF ALLIGATORS AND POISONOUS SNAKES IN THE STREETS OF NEW ORLEANS!!!!!
Posted by: MSM, and Shep Smith at April 29, 2012 07:26 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: t-bird at April 29, 2012 07:26 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 07:27 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Scobface at April 29, 2012 07:27 PM (IoNBC)
So the question is, how old are they going to be when you buy them as a civilian?
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 07:28 PM (3aXbg)
I'm not freaked out about it. It's kinda amusing to me. I live in the deep South in a mostly rural area surrounded by trees. Snakes are not a rarity in my yard.
The coolest one I've seen in my yard was a hog nosed snake, aka the puff adder. It's non venomous and fairly rare; an online article claimed it was extinct in MS. I sent the author a pic and a request for a correction.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2012 07:28 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Marybel at April 29, 2012 07:30 PM (QGwv0)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 07:31 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: someone at April 29, 2012 07:32 PM (bqjJT)
OhioDan, I had a post just last week, on the sick jihadis of Sudan. But I shall endeavor to up my production...
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 29, 2012 07:32 PM (Dd+yB)
Good night my friends.
Posted by: Jimbo at April 29, 2012 07:33 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 07:33 PM (JKNDp)
As MRE alternatives there are also some dehydrated/freeze-dried food some of which are advertised to have shelf lives of up to 25 yrs.
Don't some of those "Completes" microwave dinners have disturbing shelf lives? They're heat treated messes I'd imagine they'd never actually go bad.
Posted by: tsrblke at April 29, 2012 07:33 PM (22rSN)
Posted by: Scobface at April 29, 2012 07:34 PM (IoNBC)
It used to be. Back in the bad old days. Of course, every generation hyphenates the way it wants to. And then there's N'Sync. Heh. What the hell is that?
Jump in anytime, Eddie. These are all good topics.
Posted by: Chief Wiggum at April 29, 2012 07:34 PM (T+Z2Q)
Posted by: jake at April 29, 2012 07:34 PM (AZ8Mb)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 29, 2012 07:34 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 07:35 PM (JKNDp)
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Ahhhhh. The opossum of snakes.
Posted by: MSM, and Shep Smith at April 29, 2012 07:35 PM (piMMO)
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We don't know what happened between the keyboard and the translation to the newspaper commenting section. I mean hell, just look at what Pixy does.
The culprits are "school's" and "your."
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 07:35 PM (pMd+I)
Posted by: t-bird at April 29, 2012 07:36 PM (FcR7P)
I have to admit it's not the first snake I've found in the house, but it's the first one I can't blame on the cat.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2012 11:00 PM (ccXZP)
Strange, I usually see black snakes in the pot.
Posted by: Gerg at April 29, 2012 07:36 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 07:36 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: mpfs at April 29, 2012 07:37 PM (KnnQh)
If your a younger reader, you probably didn't even notice the two deliberate mistakes in this comment.
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YOU'RE
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 11:23 PM (piMMO)
Good catch. I still disagree with her use of the hyphen mark and the dictionary agrees with me:
a short line (-) used to connect the parts of a compound word or the parts of a word divided for any purpose.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hyphen?s=t
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 29, 2012 07:38 PM (7+pP9)
Soda, peanuts, multivitamins - they all last a long time in the containers they come in, right?
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 11:12 PM (3aXbg)
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The multi-vitamins aren't a bad idea but I wouldn't want to try to live off soda pop and peanuts. I would suggest looking at a company called Honeyville Farms -- they got their start selling long-term food stuffs to Mormons. Honeyville sells all kinds of freeze-dried and dehydrated food: prices are reasonable and shipping costs inside the lower 48 states is a steal.
A company called Shelf Reliance is also pretty good but their shipping costs are higher. You could also look at Mountain House prepared meals available through Amazon.com.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop testing stuff at April 29, 2012 07:38 PM (M0NzJ)
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Moccasins are rather thick and, of course, the inside of their mouth is a cottony white.
And, I guess it goes without saying...you don't really want to see the inside of their mouth.
Posted by: MSM, and Shep Smith at April 29, 2012 07:39 PM (piMMO)
I've seen a few racers around our house, a corn, a cute little hognose, too. I've tramped thru good rattler habitat, but...nothing yet!
Oh, there's a nice beach we go to from time to time, Fort De Soto Beach near Tampa. Go to Youtube, do a search for "De Soto beach" and "rattlesnake," the vid will freak you out!!
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 29, 2012 07:39 PM (Dd+yB)
Posted by: Arbalest at April 29, 2012 07:41 PM (OW6xW)
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The problem is the author is completely off on his time frame. We aren't looking at the death of America as we know it in a generation if the Democrats win relection - we are looking at the Death of America as we know it within a decade presuming we elect more go along to get along moderate* Republicans.
The national debt is about $15T. That's about $140K per taxpayer - and that is just the on books federal debt as of today. And it will increase, dramatically, under a President Romney.
*moderate now meaning taking over the health care industry apparently
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 07:44 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2012 07:44 PM (GjDnP)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbKYD9-qPyY
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 29, 2012 07:44 PM (Dd+yB)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbKYD9-qPyY
*****
I did a search and found it. Big, fat snake that just wanted to be left alone. He's actually quite pretty.
They aren't rare. Heck, there was a rest stop near Daytona that was overrun by them a few years ago.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 07:49 PM (piMMO)
It hasn't gotten as much coverage as it deserves but what has become a leading cause of premature death among young black men in the San Fernando Valley is Hispanic gangs asserting dominance.
The cops know about it but have no idea what to do about it when they aren't allowed to use the threat of deportation against the gang members who are nearly all illegals. Those who do manage to get deported are rarely gone more than a few months.
If there is new rioting it will be another case of idiots burning down and looting their own neighborhood. I don't think even the liberals will be in the mood for a massive appeasement campaign again.
Posted by: epobirs at April 29, 2012 07:50 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 29, 2012 07:51 PM (JMmQ9)
Barney Frank was literally in bed with the people who wrecked the economy and was defending them. And his punishment will be a VERY comfortable retirement.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 07:51 PM (3aXbg)
DISTRIBUTION: Occurs in the Coastal Plain from southern Mississippi to southeastern North Carolina and historically in the Ridge and Valley region of central Alabama. Sightings are infrequent and populations appear to be in decline throughout its range. In Alabama, the southern hognose snake has not been observed in over 20 years.
383 arbalest,
Yeah, Heterodon. Obviously it's not a true adder, which are venomous.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2012 07:52 PM (ccXZP)
Copperheads very rarely kill a human. They're more semi-venomous than venomous. As for the rest of the venomous snakes -- leave 'em alone unless they pose a threat to yourself, your family or pets.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 29, 2012 07:52 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Arbalest at April 29, 2012 07:55 PM (OW6xW)
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 29, 2012 11:52 PM (7+pP9)
Missouri is full of Copperheads, I don't think there's been a documented death from them in at least 100 years. (I know that's true if you exclude "Elderly" and "otherwise sick" people, but I think it's true generally.)
That being said, I'm told it's a pretty painful bite, and you may lose some muscle in the area. There are a few documented pet deaths (mostly smaller cats/dogs.)
Posted by: tsrblke at April 29, 2012 07:55 PM (22rSN)
Posted by: nnptcgrad at April 29, 2012 07:56 PM (Opyrm)
I see that the indigo's range includes MS but I've never seen one. Pretty cool looking. Also endangered according to wiki.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2012 07:56 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at April 29, 2012 07:57 PM (YSyyZ)
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Actually, that is an interesting question.
If Romney gets elected, the Republicans in Congress replay 2000-2006 on steroids.
If Obama wins do we see a replay of 1994, or a replay of the years since 2010 when we saw a lot of talk and no actual action? I'd argue that depends on how Obama wins.
If he runs, successfully, as a moderate versus Romney's "far right agenda", I think the Republicans cower. If he wins because the right finally says no more, then I think the odds of actually seeing a fight increase dramatically.
I don't trust Boehner or McConnell to do the right thing. I do trust them to do the things they believe are most likely to keep them in office. Watching the right destroy Romney's candidacy might well persuade them that working with conservatives is a smarter solution then giving us rhetoric while not doing a thing to upset the State Media and the permanent bureaucracy.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 07:59 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 08:00 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: buzzion at April 29, 2012 08:01 PM (GULKT)
Anyway, sorry I had to go so quickly. The reason I was asking about Sean is that I heard the rumor that he stole from his campaign from someone who knows Sean, but who I don't know very well. And I don't know whether this person would have reason to spread manure or not.
I can't say any more than that yet. I just need to know if there's any "there" there.
If anyone knew about Mass politics and Bielat in particular, it would be someone here.
Posted by: Truman North at April 29, 2012 08:02 PM (I2LwF)
I don't trust Boehner or McConnell politicans to do the right thing. I do trust them to do the things they believe are most likely to keep them in office.
FTFY.
Posted by: tsrblke at April 29, 2012 08:03 PM (22rSN)
I seriously doubt Obama will win re-election. have conversations with Dems in this area, and none of them are going to vote for him. These people are old line Dems, not the progs that have infested the party.
I realize that this is all anecdotal, but still would give it a fair amount of credence.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 29, 2012 08:04 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: DaveA at April 29, 2012 08:04 PM (NQ/V9)
Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at April 29, 2012 08:04 PM (lBpVP)
Posted by: chemjeff at April 29, 2012 11:50 PM (7FadD)
That night. Seriously. It'll be done and over.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 29, 2012 08:04 PM (X3lox)
I'm not certain if I prefer the raucous debate which occurs in the House of Commons or the quiet dignity of our own Congress.
Oh.
What?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 08:05 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: CAC at April 29, 2012 08:05 PM (GmN3p)
US GDP $15T
US Formal Debt $15T
Government Spending at all levels $6.6T = 44% of GDP
Unfunded liabilities $119T or about $1M per taxpayer
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 08:05 PM (3aXbg)
The one I saw was amazing...I was walking thru a scrub park, as I finished it, I saw what looked like a blown-out truck tire across the path...it had some MASS, it was not really flat on the ground, like a snake shd be. As I walked closer, I knew it had to be an indigo, since there are no blown-out tires in this county park! I had a decision to make: approach fast, and maybe scare it; or approach slow, and maybe get there too late. I cd see it was already moving, so I sprinted up to it, just in time to see the end of its tail disappear into the brush. The tail was kinda stubby, shaped like my pinky.
It had to be 6 ft long.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 29, 2012 08:06 PM (Dd+yB)
Posted by: True Fact at April 29, 2012 10:50 PM (cDpBS)
Yeah, but shoggoths will eat *anything*.
Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2012 08:07 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Zakn at April 29, 2012 08:07 PM (zyaZ1)
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By election day a signficiant portion of them will believe Romney is a cross between Hitler and someone out of a Margaret Atwood novel.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 08:08 PM (3aXbg)
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That's reads like rhetoric, but it isn't. I believe there will be a great many people who lose hope and simply throw their hands in the air.
HOPE will be lost.
I hate that that bastard has taken our word for the drive and optimism and faith of Americans and made it a fucking punchline.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 08:08 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: CAC at April 29, 2012 08:09 PM (GmN3p)
Yes, those am some fine looking vipers...
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 29, 2012 08:09 PM (Dd+yB)
US GDP $15T
US Formal Debt $15T
Government Spending at all levels $6.6T = 44% of GDP
Unfunded liabilities $119T or about $1M per taxpayer
Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2012 12:05 AM (3aXbg)
GDP "growth" annualized: 2.2% .... approx. $330 billion
US Federal annual deficit at the same time: $1 TRILLION+
Growth ... LOL.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 29, 2012 08:09 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: CAC at April 30, 2012 12:05 AM (GmN3p)
I take it you've never seen a cotton mouth do the actual "Cotton Mouth" thing. It's intoxicating. I had the joy of seeing that at Mingo Swamp once. Lost the picture.
Oh and I ran like hell after I got it. I did not want that thing within striking distance of me.
Posted by: tsrblke at April 29, 2012 08:10 PM (22rSN)
Posted by: CAC at April 29, 2012 08:10 PM (GmN3p)
Posted by: buzzion at April 30, 2012 12:01 AM (GULKT)
Still waiting to hear which candidate is going to save us. I'm betting it's gonna be DOCTOR RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: MrCaniac at April 29, 2012 08:11 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: CAC at April 29, 2012 08:12 PM (GmN3p)
That's reads like rhetoric, but it isn't. I believe there will be a great many people who lose hope and simply throw their hands in the air.
HOPE will be lost.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 30, 2012 12:08 AM (piMMO)
It's not that HOPE will be lost. If America could, in a sane moment, elect that Indonesian Retard who hates everything about the West (what little he knows, at least) then there is no America left. Barky rode in in 2008 on the back of a psychotic break brought on by the credit crisis. That was the only reason America still has a pulse, today. But, if this election is even close, then this nation is a loser in the long run. That number of self-haters and retards is far too great for any serious society to bear.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 29, 2012 08:12 PM (X3lox)
Doubt that. These are people who live in the real world. They see and react to events like conservatives, because they ARE conservative--no matter the voter registration.
As I said, I'd give credence to conversations like that much easier than a poll taken. Greater degree of honesty, imho.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 29, 2012 08:13 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: jake at April 29, 2012 08:15 PM (AZ8Mb)
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If you work hard and play by the rules in Obama's America you are a sucker.
Pay your student loans? Sucker! Pay your medical bills? Sucker! Invest for your own retirement! Sucker! Pay your taxes? Sucker!
But actually this isn't fair to Obama. He is one man and while he is a deeply evil man, he was put into power by a population where a plurality sees government primarily as a tool to plunder their neighbors.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 08:15 PM (3aXbg)
Good points, I think most people see Black snake as the Black rat snake, big as shit, in trees, will constrict your ass and eat anything. The racer is closer to a garner snake.
I came across a King snake last year, want a good looking snake.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at April 29, 2012 11:19 PM (hXJOG)
Most "king" animals are called that because they'll eat others of that type. King snakes and king cobras eat other snakes.
Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2012 08:17 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2012 12:15 AM (3aXbg)
I've been renting for the last 3 years, I realize now I should have taken out a Jumbo Mortgage I couldn't afford. I'm a Sucker! (Also I've been repaying my student loans at the old 6.5% interest rate, where's my f'ing bail out?)I'm tired of the whiney ass bastards in my generation.Side note: Obummer just said something like he only paid off his student loans a few years ago or some crock of crap. Really‽ (That deserves an Interrobang!) And we need more proof this guy can't manage money‽
Posted by: tsrblke at April 29, 2012 08:18 PM (22rSN)
Posted by: chemjeff at April 30, 2012 12:15 AM (7FadD)
If Barky wins he'll have MUCH more flexibility. i.e. Game Over. You've seen what he does when he feels constrained. The guy is a total lunatic, you know.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 29, 2012 08:18 PM (X3lox)
Still waiting to hear which candidate is going to save us. I'm betting it's gonna be DOCTOR RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!
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If you are waiting for an individual politician to be your savior you will be waiting a long time.
Successful societies build a system that creates incentives for its leaders to do the right thing - heck we the founders adapted the basic idea from the Roman Republic so it is nothing new.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 08:18 PM (3aXbg)
he was just a little boy when the riots happened. His comment "That guy in the hat with the pistol knows what hes doin, and walks like a man who has used a pistol like that before--from close range, many times. Hes a bad motherfucker."
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 29, 2012 08:21 PM (r7Ddb)
Better play the hell out of it as soon as it arrives. Those types of things lose value fast and you want to get your money's worth.
In a year or so you can get another for half what you paid for the first and have a mean SLI setup going.
Posted by: epobirs at April 29, 2012 08:23 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: jake at April 29, 2012 08:23 PM (AZ8Mb)
Well Goodnight 'Rons and 'Ronettes.
Have a few more Interrobangs on my behalf:
How did we let this SCOAMF become President‽
How is he so close to reelection that we're talking about it‽
Why do I have an obsession with Interrobangs and are they good grammer‽
Posted by: tsrblke at April 29, 2012 08:24 PM (22rSN)
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Obama is not the only person that gets to decide how Romney gets painted.
Romney does also, of course, though we already know he is going to borrow the McCain playbook so he is throwing that option away for all intents and purposes.
But then conservatives get a say too, unless of course we align ourselves with candidate Romney, in which case his voice will become ours for the next four years if he loses, and the next 8 if he wins.
If we don't align ourselves with him though we are free to point out that both Romney and Obama are endorsing a statist status quo that cannot last.
So no, Obama winning, which he most likely will, does not guarantee congressional cowardice - but supporting Romney will.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 08:24 PM (3aXbg)
Had never seen the Tom Hanks manifesto, it's very interesting, now that they jazzed it up.
Posted by: C C at April 29, 2012 08:25 PM (oZfic)
Again, dangerous and no way the lady would let me get one, but beautiful.
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I like the green vipers best but the prettiest snake I've ever seen was at the zoo: A yellow python.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 08:25 PM (piMMO)
"Help ME to help YOU...to HURT ME/MY COUNTRY!!"
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 29, 2012 08:25 PM (Dd+yB)
Posted by: jake at April 29, 2012 08:27 PM (AZ8Mb)
JEF winning re-election is bad, but not having Congress become more 'R' is worse. The House and Senate races are critical, as are all state races.
That typed, whatever your opinion of Romney, electing Romney, VOTING FOR Romney, is still critical; he is unlikely to continue JEF's idiocy, and is more likely to go along with a larger-R Congress. Many problems can then be fixed.
I notice that Axelturf whined about Dog-gate. Why? Axelturf is implicitly represented as some sort of neo-Rovian political genious ... it looks to me like he's a not-particularly-smart punk who uses punk methods, and assumes that since no one else will stoop to his level, he will win.
Dog-gate sort of proves otherwise; we didn't stoop to his level, but we did play the game his way, and he lost ... big. He quit early, I think because he couldn't take the heat, but the end game would be that what the 6- or 9- y.o. Obama did is not the point, the point is what the 34-y.o. Obama wrote (or did he?), and what the 44-y.o. Obama said in the audio version ... I wonder if Axelturf saw this.
I think that the Romney Campaign is smart enough and tough enough to easily spank Axelturf at his own game ... will they do it? JEF is slowly becoming more un-likeable each day, and certain MSM players are starting to bail ... no reason for Romney to do anything now. But the campaign picks up in a couple of months.
We need to see the Romney Campaign play for keeps. We need to hear and see JEF's utter failures, his questionable legal actions, his expropriation of credit (really, did he think about the OBL situation overnight? Did Panetta really force him and Jarret to act?), his mediocrity, all aired on TV. We need to see the MSM exposed as the propagandists they have become.
Will Romney cause these things to happen? Stay tuned.
Posted by: Arbalest at April 29, 2012 08:28 PM (OW6xW)
Posted by: Ezra's Equal at April 29, 2012 08:28 PM (N9x/V)
Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at April 29, 2012 08:28 PM (snRY5)
CAC, that eyelash viper is gorgeous but I'd never want to keep one.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2012 08:29 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Zakn at April 29, 2012 08:29 PM (zyaZ1)
projection of power and the willingness to do violence cross all cultural lines.
The guy with a pistol prob was in Korea from 50 to 53
Posted by: jake at April 30, 2012 12:27 AM (AZ8Mb)
I knew a Sub Masterchief with a face like that once, he was a step- grandparent. Had that same look on his face --served from WWII thru Vietnam. He used to help me with my homework. I never heard a single human being tell that man "No."
not ever.
But he was the greatest guy if he loved you.
He made me read such great books as Atlas Shrugged, Babbit, Bleak House, and Watership Down.
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 29, 2012 08:32 PM (r7Ddb)
It's interesting.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 08:32 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: jake at April 29, 2012 08:33 PM (AZ8Mb)
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Uh, um, if, uh, I could, um, continue, uh, as I have, uh, always, uh said, we need to invest in the, uh, thing, uh, that I want to, um, invest, uh, in, for, uh, the children. Who are, uh, crumbling, um, no, wait, uh, we need to invest, uh, in the infrastructure, uh, and income inequality. Um, yeah.
Uh, I have to go now.
Posted by: Barack Obama before the commons at April 29, 2012 08:35 PM (3aXbg)
In a way he does, but it happens largely behind closed doors in staff discussions. Unless its a direct challenge inviting a veto, Congress doesn't want to send something to a president that will be unexpectedly vetoed.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 29, 2012 08:38 PM (bezvC)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 08:40 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Truman North at April 29, 2012 08:41 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Locarno at April 29, 2012 08:42 PM (I0esR)
Posted by: jake at April 29, 2012 08:42 PM (AZ8Mb)
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Myself, I like the short version, where the two are subjected to missile attack* by F-18's as post-election they attempt to fly to Cuba with all the swag they accumulated while in the White House.
And with closeups of a disintegrating fuselage, shrieking Wookies clawing the air, and all the rest.
Now, THAT would be offering value for your entertainment dollar!
Posted by: Jim Sonweed at April 29, 2012 08:45 PM (SV4OI)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 08:46 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: garrett at April 29, 2012 08:46 PM (cDpBS)
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I haven't watched it in quite a while. Although the show was terrific, right out of the box, adding Alan Cumming was a stroke of brilliance.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 08:47 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: jake at April 29, 2012 08:47 PM (AZ8Mb)
Successful societies build a system that creates incentives for its leaders to do the right thing - heck we the founders adapted the basic idea from the Roman Republic so it is nothing new.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2012 12:18 AM (3aXbg)
You see, I am a realist. Our Founding Fathers may have thought they were building a society based on the Roman Republic, but they were men first and did many things for their own benefit. Hell, the vaunted Roman Republic was based on self interest.
So, if we are going to create a society that gives incentives to leaders for doing the right thing, the first thing we have to do is pay our politicians more money, that way they won't try to enrich themselves at the public trough. The second thing would be public financing of all campaigns, since we will need to get rid of special interests. Third thing we would need to do is make sure that those who are elected know what the right thing is, that way there is no problem as to how they will vote on issues. In this utopia, all votes will be 435-0 and 100-0. This sounds great, but it kinda sounds like the old Soviet Union.
As for a savior, no thanks, I already have one. I know that all men are flawed, and that all politicians will at some point disappoint me. That is one of the things I know going into an election, so I don't get all butthurt when a politician does what a politician does. I also know that the only politician that will do what I want and vote how I want 100% of the time would be me.
Even though Romney isn't my ideal candidate, I will vote for and support him. I will not sit around whipping my skippy hoping that some mythical conservative candidate will make a last minute jump into the race because "America is screaming out 'help' to them". Those candidates almost always tend to be even more egotistical than the party nominees because they think they are special.
Posted by: MrCaniac at April 29, 2012 08:47 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: Truman North at April 29, 2012 08:50 PM (I2LwF)
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Yeaaahhh. Not really the same thing. The Executive and Legislative branches do not operate as co-equals. Obama thinks they, and the SCOTUS, are below him. In the Commons, Cameron has to stand up and debate and defend his ideas and, others get to disagree.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 08:50 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 08:51 PM (JKNDp)
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He didn't become as successful as he is by eating crap and pretending to like it.
Mitt Romney: Because the Presidency is Serious Business
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 08:53 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: chemjeff at April 30, 2012 12:45 AM
I'm pretty sure the same mindset thought we could "win by losing" in 2008
Some people just keep beating their heads against a wall because it feels good when they stop.
Posted by: kbdabear at April 29, 2012 08:53 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: jake at April 29, 2012 08:53 PM (AZ8Mb)
Posted by: Truman North at April 30, 2012 12:50 AM (I2LwF)
Actually, my name is Archie Andrews, and I only want to make out with Betty and Veronica.
Posted by: Archie Andrews at April 29, 2012 08:54 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: CAC at April 30, 2012 12:05 AM (GmN3p)
Beautiful in person, but I'm glad the one I saw was pointed out before I got close. It couldn't have been more than 8" long, curled up on a big leaf on some plant whose name I can't remember in Costa Rica. This particular one was in full yellow. It's odd to think that something that little is a 3-6 month hospital stay-in-waiting if you get close and piss it off.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 29, 2012 08:56 PM (lJJMb)
KANO, Nigeria (AP) -- Gunmen attacked worship services at a university campus and a church Sunday in northern Nigeria, killing at least 21 people in coordinated assaults that saw panicked Christians gunned down as they tried to flee, witnesses and officials said.
Or maybe that other outfit, the r.o.p.
Recall this song by Elvis Costello: Peace Love and Understanding
http://tinyurl.com/c3whll
I went to see him in concert a couple of years ago, then shortly afterward he decided he couldn't in good conscience perform in Israel. Douchebag.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2012 08:57 PM (ccXZP)
I prefer the Chinese approach to corruption.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 29, 2012 08:57 PM (bezvC)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 08:57 PM (piMMO)
But in a face-to-face debate, or even a satellite media back & forth, Romney will have a MUCH easier time against the JEF, since on so many positions they are light years apart. Romney basically spent the whole primaries saying "we all agree, but the other guy just isn't as accomplished in the private sector as I am," and the superpacs did the rest.
As Ace has shrewdly noted, the "he's a nice kid but just not up to a man's job" approach may actually work better for Romney than the more jugular-hitting angle we'd prefer, esp. since Romney really just doesn't have it in him to cut up an opponent like a hatchetman.
Let's keep that role for ourselves!!
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 29, 2012 08:57 PM (Dd+yB)
we areall special interests
senior citizens,
gun owners,
farmers,
small businessmen
big businessmen
etc.
I heard a senior on social security ranting about special interests, the fact that he was a special interest never dawned on him.
everyone is a special interest.
Posted by: jake at April 30, 2012 12:53 AM (AZ8Mb)
That was the point I was making. We all have a different opinion of what is in the best interest of the country.
BTW, I am a small businessman, we are not a special interest, the Federal, State and local governments all see us as something that they can treat like Jodie Foster in the Accused.
Posted by: MrCaniac at April 29, 2012 08:58 PM (1grxW)
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Indeed, if you follow the course you've set yourself upon, and enough conservatives follow you, there will be no hope.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 09:01 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: epobirs at April 30, 2012 12:23 AM (kcfmt)
yeah, I got a bit of extra money trading my Vita away and playing iRacing in 3d and with trackir pushed me over the edge
Posted by: The Dude at April 29, 2012 09:01 PM (M8yfa)
Posted by: Archie Andrews at April 30, 2012 12:54 AM
Yeah right, come on back over here and let's play "Kal and Barry".
Posted by: Moose at April 29, 2012 09:02 PM (1grxW)
You're right. We can all be divided into special interests. So what. In 4 years I will be eligible for social security and I will take it but I have enough of my own fking money and investments that if they decide to do the right things to make it a financially viable institution again I can get by. I was paying $1800 a month for a $5k deductable policy for my wife and I. I would prefer the government would quit making me pay the healthcare for illegals and stop the silly and onerous malpractice suits so it is affordable rather than have the nanny state take care of me. I would rather see stupid drug laws cease than support a huge penal system that costs $50K per inmate and produces super well fed criminals. I would rather see school vouchers and competition rather than the bloated ineffectual public school system we have now. I could go on for a long while with examples.
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 09:03 PM (JKNDp)
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Indeed, if you follow the course you've set yourself upon, and enough conservatives follow you, there will be no hope.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2012 01:01 AM (3aXbg)
So, if Obama wins re-election this year, we will get another Reagan in 16?
Because I am still waiting for this year's Reagan.
Posted by: MrCaniac at April 29, 2012 09:04 PM (1grxW)
***
I'd argue it was the State Media - they took out each alternative in turn when they posed a serious threat to Romney. And I have to say the Cain lynching was particularly impressive considering how they treated Bill Clinton a few years before.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 09:04 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 09:04 PM (JKNDp)
*****
Rand Paul for President?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2012 09:06 PM (piMMO)
***
We don't need another Reagan and we won't get one.
In the short term we need enough political leaders to began a radical downsizing of the federal government. Arguably, a bare majority in the House can do it by itself. Certainly control of both houses of Congress is enough - if the will is there.
In the mid to long term we need an informed electorate that will re-install the traditional incentives and penalties America has used to keep its government in check.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 09:08 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: jake at April 29, 2012 09:10 PM (AZ8Mb)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 29, 2012 09:11 PM (bxiXv)
I'm pretty sure the same mindset thought we could "win by losing" in 2008
Some people just keep beating their heads against a wall because it feels good when they stop.
***
We've been trying to win by settling for the "electable" choice since 1988, including in 2008. Has that strategy succeeded?
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 09:11 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 09:13 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 29, 2012 09:13 PM (Dd+yB)
QUETTA, Pakistan (AP) -- The body of a British Red Cross worker held captive in Pakistan since January was found in an orchard Sunday, his throat slit and a note attached to his body saying he was killed because no ransom was paid, police said.
Khalil Rasjed Dale, 60, was managing a health program in the city of Quetta in southwestern Pakistan when armed men seized him from a street close to his office. The identities of his captors are unknown, but the region is home to separatist and Islamist militants who have kidnapped for ransom before.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2012 09:15 PM (ccXZP)
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So they attacked a doctor because he had too much money. Why does that ring a bell?
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 09:17 PM (pMd+I)
***
I'd argue it was the State Media - they took out each alternative in turn when they posed a serious threat to Romney. And I have to say the Cain lynching was particularly impressive considering how they treated Bill Clinton a few years before.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2012 01:04 AM (3aXbg)
So what you're saying is that the MSM destroyed all potential (R) candidates except Romney in order to take the choice of candidate away from the base. I have no doubt that our opponents in the media certainly are pushing for a 2nd Barry term, but I seem to remember Mittens's opponents serially disqualifying themselves through the campaign process. Do you honestly believe that Romney was the matchup they'd prefer, vs. a N00t or Santorum?
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 29, 2012 09:17 PM (lJJMb)
***
That's the whole point.
Expect men to act against their own interests for the good of society as a whole and you will be consistently disappointed.
However, if you can build a system where advancing self interest benefits society, you can create a truly successful society - note that this is also why capitalism works on the economic front.
On the political front both Rome and the early US did this by putting a high premium on honor - Washington, for example, valued the honor of being the president more then the power, and wealth, a kingship could have brought.
Both also did this by enfranchising a generally educated electorate. True, there weren't many issues in play so it made it easier to analyze, but this was also part of the system.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 09:19 PM (3aXbg)
Red on black, friend to Jack.
black on yellow, kills a fellow."
Are you talking about inter-racial sex?
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 09:21 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Robert at April 29, 2012 09:21 PM (4ixH5)
Yeah that was fun and informative. Soon (in a later ONT), I will mention some cool bugs I've seen in my yard. My yard being 2.5 acres of woods and stuff. I love wandering around and observing nature at work.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2012 09:21 PM (ccXZP)
It only occurs to me now for some reason. It's so obvious. There is most definitely a plan, or multiple plans, for riots when Zimmerman is acquitted. It's all being set up now. Watch for a possible push to hold the trial before the elections -- that would be coming out of the White House, but there are no doubt lots of differerent people with plans to exploit this for their own purposes. If and when the rioting starts, it will not be limited to Sanford Fla whenver the verdict is announced.
There was talk of premeditation of the '92 L.A. riots, you know. Allegations that gangs readied themselves to loot sporting goods stores for weapons pending the verdict, and instigated violence as cover when the time came.
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at April 29, 2012 09:22 PM (8hBZi)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 30, 2012 01:21 AM (JKNDp)
I was hoping to hear about the sex with the goat and also the pig.
Posted by: Mock Mood Army Dinner Jacket at April 29, 2012 09:23 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2012 01:11 AM (3aXbg)
Works about 50-50. The going all out balls to the wall didn't work to well for Goldwater in 64.
Posted by: MrCaniac at April 29, 2012 09:23 PM (1grxW)
Mos Maiorum.
(darn, can't link anymore)
Posted by: derit at April 29, 2012 09:24 PM (FQlFL)
I don't think there is a serious question.
Newt, Romney, Cain, Perry, Santorum, etc all each had at least one easy line of attack for the State Media. And in each case the media let lose not long after the individual gained front runner status...except for one...
The State Media barely touched Romney on the "class issue" prior to his sewing up the nomination, and they are still holding on to his religion until closer to the election.
Expect to watch the State Media define Mormonism within the next few months in a profoundly negative way for the majority of the electorate that has no idea of the details of Romney's religion. It will be an ugly thing.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 09:25 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: jake at April 29, 2012 09:25 PM (AZ8Mb)
Posted by: The Dude at April 29, 2012 09:26 PM (M8yfa)
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 30, 2012 01:21 AM (ccXZP)
Here we find two filthy hippies in their natural environment, occupying a space and marking it as their territory by defecating and urinating all over it.
"Marx! Marx! Death to capitalism!" shouts the male in his attempt to attract a mate. He shall shout it many times as well as other phrases in hopes of finding sex or perhaps drugs.
Posted by: David Attenborough at April 29, 2012 09:26 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 29, 2012 09:26 PM (GE1+K)
There wasn't a single pic of a beer, let alone any titties in that link.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2012 09:27 PM (ccXZP)
love those things. ALways wanted one. but they are fragile and you gotta feed them peeps.
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 29, 2012 09:27 PM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 09:29 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 09:30 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Robert at April 29, 2012 09:31 PM (4ixH5)
***
But again, the point isn't whether we win with a Bush in 88 or lose with a McCain in 08.
Even when we "win" the election, we lose the political fight. Neither president Bush even seriously tried to stop the continued left wing march of the federal institutions. And in the case of Bush 43 in 2002-6 this is truly unconscionable. He had the best, and at this point likely last, chance to truly change course in DC.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 09:31 PM (3aXbg)
***
We both know how the the story of candidate Romney ends - "win" or lose. If he is a reformer, it will be of the Romneycare form, which is the exact opposite of what we need.
As has been said, the best case scenario is that a victorious Romney does for Obama's policies what Eisenhower did for FDR's.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 29, 2012 09:33 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: Gern Blandsden at April 29, 2012 09:33 PM (4qU0l)
***
When have the Republicans ever lost an election by choosing "the one man that can beat Barack Obama in the current climate"?
Posted by: 18-1 who suddenly can't remember 2008 at April 29, 2012 09:36 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 29, 2012 09:36 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: Robert
----------------
No, ice bergs are all gone thanks to global warmening.
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 09:37 PM (pMd+I)
Posted by: Gern Blandsden
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No, chemjeff did it by taking the bait at #392. He realized the error of his ways and apologized, but we're stuck with the flaming ruins.
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 29, 2012 09:40 PM (pMd+I)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 09:41 PM (JKNDp)
Odd. The Titanic is tiny compared to the behemoths Royal Caribbean et al now have. So it'd be just another cruise ship.
I guess there's the frisson of danger from traveling aboard a ship with an 'unlucky' name.
And you could charge big bucks to let goobers stand at the prow and yell "I'm the King of the World!".
Posted by: Waterhouse at April 29, 2012 09:42 PM (T+Z2Q)
Expect men to act against their own interests for the good of society as a whole and you will be consistently disappointed.
However, if you can build a system where advancing self interest benefits society, you can create a truly successful society - note that this is also why capitalism works on the economic front.
On the political front both Rome and the early US did this by putting a high premium on honor - Washington, for example, valued the honor of being the president more then the power, and wealth, a kingship could have brought.
Both also did this by enfranchising a generally educated electorate. True, there weren't many issues in play so it made it easier to analyze, but this was also part of the system.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2012 01:19 AM (3aXbg)
Ohh, so an oligarchy is what you want. Nobless oblige. The Kennedys, Bushes, Byrds, Rockefellers, all would say that they voted against their self interest for the good of society.
BTW, people were not politically plugged in back then as some would have you believe. A great deal of the people would have preferred to remain subjects of the crown. The reality of those days is that the media of the time was even more partisan than it is today. Papers were founded to promote the interests of certain politicians.
Your premise that people will do what is good for the society is nice, but it doesn't take into account what people actually think is good for society.
Posted by: MrCaniac at April 29, 2012 09:42 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 30, 2012 01:37 AM (pMd+I)
I'm a Jewish rapper, Oy!
[that's 'yo', because we write backwards ... oy!]
Posted by: Ice-Berg at April 29, 2012 09:42 PM (X3lox)
not getting any response from Ace on the gaming thread also makes me a sad panda
Posted by: The Dude at April 29, 2012 09:45 PM (M8yfa)
Posted by: Gern Blandsden at April 29, 2012 09:46 PM (4qU0l)
-Brennan
P.S. Obama is a SCOAMF.
Posted by: Brennan at April 29, 2012 09:46 PM (cMILA)
http://tinyurl.com/75r3kpf
The claim is his edits were similar to the notorious Today show edits.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 29, 2012 09:52 PM (bezvC)
Posted by: Theresa at April 29, 2012 09:53 PM (Cf5RM)
Even when we "win" the election, we lose the political fight. Neither president Bush even seriously tried to stop the continued left wing march of the federal institutions. And in the case of Bush 43 in 2002-6 this is truly unconscionable. He had the best, and at this point likely last, chance to truly change course in DC.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2012 01:31 AM (3aXbg)
If your point is to be an eeyore, well played. The left wing march on government institutions has been going on since Teddy Roosevelt. Even Ronald Reagan didn't do much to slow it down, and he was probably actually the last chance to change the course in DC. Or it could have been Nixon. Or Ike. Or Herbert Hoover. Or Calvin Coolidge.
So who will you be voting for?
Posted by: MrCaniac at April 29, 2012 09:55 PM (1grxW)
Nice to see so many other snake fans here. I just fed my pet chain king, btw...
Time to snooze, people!
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 29, 2012 09:55 PM (Dd+yB)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 29, 2012 09:57 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 29, 2012 09:57 PM (Dd+yB)
Posted by: navycopjoe waiting for da cubs to win a f**king game at April 29, 2012 09:59 PM (3A7PP)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 29, 2012 10:00 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Robert at April 29, 2012 10:00 PM (4ixH5)
We were allied with the Russkies for both big wars. The one to end all wars and the one right after they were all ended.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 29, 2012 10:01 PM (X3lox)
"tit's" are either the possessive: "Her boyfriend could not extract his lips from her right tit's supple, yet deformed, nipple."
Or the form is a contraction of the verb 'is': "That weird tit's totally mesmerising me, but can you stop shoving it into my face and give Mr. Happy some suction?"
Why won't they let me teach the kiddies?
Posted by: derit at April 29, 2012 10:02 PM (FQlFL)
Posted by: chemjeff at April 30, 2012 01:58 AM (7FadD)
Fuck me...here, hold my drink. I'm gonna fap me up a storm.
Posted by: Robert at April 29, 2012 10:02 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 29, 2012 10:03 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: derit at April 30, 2012 02:02 AM (FQlFL)
Makes me wish I had a teacher like you when I was a kid. The cunny wafts that I had didn't know their heads from their asses.
Posted by: Robert at April 29, 2012 10:04 PM (4ixH5)
The recently concluded primaries and, I believe, the 2010 Delaware primary.
So it's a regular laugh a minute, yessiree.
Posted by: Robert at April 30, 2012 02:00 AM (4ixH5)
Child please, we are going back to 1900 now.
Posted by: MrCaniac at April 29, 2012 10:04 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: MrCaniac at April 30, 2012 02:04 AM (1grxW)
conservatives lost then hence why conservatives are dead
Posted by: The Dude at April 29, 2012 10:05 PM (M8yfa)
Say, is that you at #4 top commenter? Congratulations!
Posted by: Theresa at April 29, 2012 10:07 PM (Cf5RM)
Nobody else will say it so I will. You're not helping. Your shrew/scold attitude is making ME want to argue with you just because smug shrew scolding is *way* more annoying than Eeyore over there.
I say this as a person who enjoys your company here - except when you get in these fucking party purity pillow fights, which you seem to love so much.
Also, blandly stating over someone else's *consistent* expression otherwise that they don't really hold the positions they say they do is *unbelievably* rude.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 30, 2012 02:00 AM (bxiXv)
Disagree. Chemjeff is one of the better commenters around here.
Posted by: Mætenloch at April 29, 2012 10:07 PM (+B3Nr)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 10:08 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 30, 2012 02:03 AM (bxiXv)
Dammit, I have the perfect .jpg on my Facebook that sums up this thread and I can't...fucking...link it!
Posted by: Robert at April 29, 2012 10:09 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 10:09 PM (JKNDp)
The current state of play is not only on the POTUS level, but also in Congress -- and we've seen the blue-dog Dems succumb to fratricide at high levels, the Dems succumb to public revulsion with their programs, while RINOs are slowly getting plowed under by more conservative types.
If we were talking about a normal POTUS, our efforts should be concentrated on strengthening the congressional fratricide on the left, and building the conservative congressional wave on the right.....but we're not. Running without any budget at all, taking unconstitutional stances on legal cases, bypassing checks and balances by using czars and EO's, thumbing it's nose at the War Powers Act in Libya -- this administration doesn't seek to take control of our Republic.....it seeks to devolve our government to whim and position over laws and process. Obama's administration needs to be shut down, now -- even Billy Jeff's would be an improvement, buying us time for the congressional wave to move further along.
So it's not that you need to love Romney -- it's that you need to have faith that Romney would work through channels, cross the t's, do the required parts before jumping off into ego-trips, and allow us to enjoy the rule of law and due process under that law. Obama's actions over the last three years make this as clear as glass.
Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2012 10:10 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Theresa at April 30, 2012 02:07 AM (Cf5RM)
Thanks. I can't shut up it seems. Even when I lay low I just come back the next night twice as strong.
I think we need some kind of ONTer Anonymous.
Hello. My name is Robert and I...I post on the ONT.
Posted by: Robert at April 29, 2012 10:12 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: The Dude at April 30, 2012 02:05 AM (M8yfa)
They lost in 1900 because Christine O'Donnell was going to be the nominee for the GOP Senate seat in Delaware in 2010.
As much as I would have liked someone more conservative than Romney being the nominee, he is who we have. That being said, whoever would have been the nominee would be getting attacked over their conservative bona fides.
Posted by: MrCaniac at April 29, 2012 10:12 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: Robert at April 29, 2012 10:15 PM (4ixH5)
And yet another 'Someone on the internet is WRONG!!!' response...
Posted by: Adriane at April 29, 2012 10:15 PM (VVZaH)
Posted by: The Dude at April 29, 2012 10:18 PM (M8yfa)
That animation dug up Walt Disney just to bugger him and spear his molested corpse on top of Big Ben (sorry, Clock Tower).
Posted by: derit at April 29, 2012 10:18 PM (FQlFL)
Some fan trivia. I was not in Britain at the time, so I really can't say for sure.
Posted by: Adriane at April 29, 2012 10:18 PM (VVZaH)
Posted by: Robert, Lord Of All he Surveys at April 29, 2012 10:20 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Adriane at April 30, 2012 02:18 AM (VVZaH)
A likely story.
Posted by: New Scotland Yard at April 29, 2012 10:21 PM (4ixH5)
The seduction of simply ignoring the constitution is strong on both sides though...
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 29, 2012 10:21 PM (bezvC)
Posted by: Anxious Adriane Awaiting Atmospheric Auto-da-fe' at April 29, 2012 10:23 PM (VVZaH)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 29, 2012 10:23 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 29, 2012 10:23 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 29, 2012 10:24 PM (bezvC)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 30, 2012 02:21 AM (bezvC)
gop doing it is a-okay though
Posted by: The Dude at April 29, 2012 10:24 PM (M8yfa)
I don't think I said that. If you think I did, provide a quote back to support the claim.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 29, 2012 10:26 PM (bezvC)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 29, 2012 10:27 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Robert at April 29, 2012 10:27 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 30, 2012 02:26 AM (bezvC)
didn't mean to imply you meant that, just making a joke.
Posted by: The Dude at April 29, 2012 10:28 PM (M8yfa)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 29, 2012 10:29 PM (bxiXv)
New Scotland Yard at April 30, 2012 02:21 AM (4ixH5)
********************
No. No. No. Trust me, I'd remember this ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-9jLmVPei4
Posted by: A less cynical Adriane at April 29, 2012 10:30 PM (VVZaH)
Posted by: The Dude at April 29, 2012 10:30 PM (M8yfa)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 29, 2012 10:31 PM (bezvC)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 29, 2012 10:31 PM (GE1+K)
And 18-1 didn't call Chemjeff a liar or unreasonable or anything else.
And I will continue to call them as I see them. Go back and check the posts if that still seems unreasonable.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 30, 2012 02:23 AM (bxiXv)
I did and I'm still not seeing what seems to have set you off. If you disagree with chemjeff, just argue with him directly
Posted by: Mætenloch at April 29, 2012 10:32 PM (+B3Nr)
And we've given so much power to those megalomaniacs in Washington that our two parties' primary distinction is whether the privilege is written down (GOP -- see "earmarks") or not (Dems -- everything from "we don't need a budget no matter what the law says" to "white people can't have the DOJ prosecute blacks for racism"). In either case, the ruling class -- and their flunkies and hangers-on (see "Sandra Fluke") -- are entitled, and everyone else can just suck it up.
To me, it seems obvious that the concentration of power, itself, is the problem. If all of the $300M+ people in this country had a dollar taken from them and sent to Washington, they'd all care $1 -- maybe $5, if they hold to archaic beliefs like "honor" and "justice". But someone in DC would joyously spend $1M to divert it -- that would be an instant 300-to-1 payoff. To say that checks and guards should be in place that would require an additional $1M in time or effort to subvert completely misses the point. Concentrating that much in one place means that there is a built-in advantage for the crooks. [Incidentally, that is why defined benefit pension plans are evil -- and mostly have been looted and are bankrupt.]
Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2012 10:33 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 30, 2012 02:31 AM (GE1+K)
you're right
story wise it would inevitably end up being worse than some of the worse fanfic you could think of though
Posted by: The Dude at April 29, 2012 10:33 PM (M8yfa)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 29, 2012 10:34 PM (bezvC)
Posted by: The Dude at April 29, 2012 10:38 PM (M8yfa)
The duration of congressional sessions also breeds significant shenanigans. They should sit for no more than 3 months/year, then clear out of town unless summoned for emergency special session by the president.
It was never intended that we have a professional political class.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 29, 2012 10:38 PM (bezvC)
Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2012 10:40 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Bill H at April 29, 2012 10:46 PM (3sZO1)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 29, 2012 10:46 PM (bxiXv)
Hoss - who knows, maybe you're still reading - someone beat me to McP's in Coronado (the SEAL bar), and I thought all the Persian places were in La Jolla, so I'll have to check out Sadaf - but my first Mexican suggestion close to downtown would be the oddly named Jimmy Carter's, on 5th, up north a bit from downtown, near the park.
Really quite decent border Mex (the predominant "local" variety in these parts), but also very nice regional specialties that change from week to week. Well worth the short cab ride.
I've never really liked the Gaslamp at all. Too touristy, too crowded, too hip, too boring in a "center of the action" sort of way, plus it seems like if a cab driver loses control and mows down pedestrians, or a Charger player gets in a fight or gets shot at, it's in that area. But maybe my huge and ever-growing animus against the dumbed down "trendy" urban types - who are the backbone of all that ails CA and America, politically speaking - just makes me dislike such areas. As a foodie and one-time night-owl, it's an ironic evolution to now despise such areas and their primary clientele.
Posted by: non-purist at April 29, 2012 10:50 PM (yJ3Du)
The duration of congressional sessions also breeds significant shenanigans. They should sit for no more than 3 months/year, then clear out of town unless summoned for emergency special session by the president.
It was never intended that we have a professional political class.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 30, 2012 02:38 AM (bezvC)
If they didn't have anything to argue about, it wouldn't matter how long they took to do it.
Seriously, look at what they're supposed to be doing -- http://tinyurl.com/db58tj -- that's it. Period. End of story. If there was any confusion, there's a couple of amendments to clear that up: Ninth -- "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be
construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."; Tenth -- "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution,
nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States
respectively, or to the people." If Congress thinks they can stretch bankruptcy law or post offices into a full-time gig, more power to them.
Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2012 10:51 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: The Dude at April 30, 2012 02:33 AM (M8yfa)
fanfics inevitably make me cringe. i have a friend who writes those and she has learned not to ask me to read hers. My kid instinctively knew when she started writing her dreck though i have heard its quite good i only read her unique character stories of which there are plenty. yeah... Gushie prolly doesnt need to read the weird porn about Snape and Hermione with the Dr who crossover threeway with Rose...
SERIOUSLY???? what is WRONG with making up your own stories about New people??? The porn is fine. everyone likes it if its well written.
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 29, 2012 10:57 PM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: Robert at April 29, 2012 10:58 PM (4ixH5)
All fanfics degenerates into fetish porn.
That being said I'd love to read how D'Argo uses that tongue on Chiana.
Posted by: Robert at April 29, 2012 10:59 PM (4ixH5)
I may not agree with 18-1's plan, but I agree less with Chemjeff's behavior.
I didn't see 18-1 insulting people or calling them names.
And did you trollbust 534? It's 18-1's hash.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 30, 2012 02:46 AM (bxiXv)
I didn't trollbust any comments - either they got deleted by the TB3K or they're here exactly as posted.
And I don't agree with your description of chemjeff's comment - you seem to be reading more into it than is there. By the normal AoSHQ rules of debate it's pretty par for the course. And by daytime standards it's practically fag-talk.
Posted by: Mætenloch at April 29, 2012 11:01 PM (+B3Nr)
Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2012 11:02 PM (kaalw)
That being said I'd love to read how D'Argo uses that tongue on Chiana.
Posted by: Robert at April 30, 2012 02:59 AM (4ixH5)
*LE SIGH*
(gushie sprains something in her head, rolling her eyes)
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 29, 2012 11:03 PM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: Robert at April 29, 2012 11:04 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 29, 2012 11:04 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: derit at April 29, 2012 11:04 PM (FQlFL)
Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2012 11:11 PM (kaalw)
To me, it seems obvious that the concentration of power, itself, is the problem.
The
duration of congressional sessions also breeds significant shenanigans.
They should sit for no more than 3 months/year, then clear out of town ...
---- If Congress thinks they can stretch bankruptcy law or post offices into a full-time gig, more power to them.
Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2012 02:51 AM (kaalw)
==
congress should meet on Amchitka. We may have to freshen up some of the radiation to get the full effect. reduce the place to a a runway and 3 quonset huts -- one male, one female, one meeting hall/cafeteria -- and gun emplacements to sink the lobbyist yachts.
I would bet big money no session would ever last more than 3 weeks.
Posted by: jc at April 29, 2012 11:16 PM (ufJKx)
He created a new character, an immortal of the Highlander mythos, who tied it all together by knowing the oldest character back when he was human and a high ranking Roman, going all the way through history running into everybody at some point and in the present bringing them all in contact with each other.
It was a great bit of self-indulgence that would have been a workable screenplay if the complications of such a crossover could be worked out. CSI and Without A Trace can do crossovers because they're both Jerry Bruckheimer shows. But a crossover involving at least five different property owners would be a tough one.
Posted by: epobirs at April 29, 2012 11:18 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: epobirs at April 30, 2012 03:18 AM (kcfmt)
hell, still never got the Robocop vs Terminator film 
and I would give my left nut to get a film on one of the Dark Horse AvP comics (I'll take any, I'm that desperate)
Posted by: The Dude at April 29, 2012 11:22 PM (M8yfa)
I would bet big money no session would ever last more than 3 weeks.
Posted by: jc at April 30, 2012 03:16 AM (ufJKx)
I agree that moving the capital regularly would have a salutary effect on the permanent bureaucracy.....but would argue that every term of Congress should meet in a different locale, chosen by lot from military bases. One session could be Amchitka; the next Pearl Harbor; the next Vandenberg; the next Thule....they could even go to Guam or Mannheim, Germany.
Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2012 11:22 PM (kaalw)
seen moose palling around with cats. they seem curious about each other. moose don't like dogs much and will occasionally kill them.
Posted by: jc at April 29, 2012 11:23 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2012 11:24 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: jc at April 30, 2012 03:23 AM (ufJKx)
Interesting. Is that all dogs or just "husky"-flavored ones?
Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2012 11:25 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: steevy at April 30, 2012 03:24 AM (7W3wI)
That was one consideration for my question at 633.
Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2012 11:26 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 29, 2012 11:29 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2012 03:22 AM (kaalw)
McMurdo isn't actually a military base, but it should be on your list.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 30, 2012 03:29 AM (bxiXv)
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are all of those places shitholes? If they are not double shitty, then it should be permanently set in the shittiest imaginable place.
Posted by: jc at April 29, 2012 11:31 PM (ufJKx)
No ownership problems for Aliens and Predators, obviously. They had a Xenomorph head trophy in the ship in the second Predator movie.
The problem is getting them to use a story that is worth a damn. The rule seems to be, if a story is tailor made for adaptation to the screen, alter it to the point of ruining it or just ignore its existence. The movie of Wanted pretty much destroyed the plot of the source material by making the assassins think they were serving a higher cause for the betterment of the world. In the comic they were the bad guy who'd secretly taken charge of everything after killing off all the superheros, and they knew it. They were completely clear on what they were and why.
So all of these assassins had been serving a false cause and thus had to die for their sins. Not just because they were competition for the lead character and his secretly still alive father. (It also kind of annoyed me that they greatly altered the female lead just so they could cast Angelina Jolie.)
The corollary is that if there is a fan favorite storyline that is far too lengthy and convoluted for a movie, go ahead and do that.
Posted by: epobirs at April 29, 2012 11:33 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 30, 2012 03:04 AM (bxiXv)
Mero, i'm trying to think if i am honestly such a fan that i could go that extra effort and write about *them,* rather than my own perfectly good ideas and worlds and characters in my head... There were some stories i have LOVED, but ... let me think if there's anything i have read, since i was twelve that i would want to IMITATE it, like that. I think the weirdest to me is the Harry potter porn... ew! i get it, but... ew!
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 29, 2012 11:33 PM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: jc at April 29, 2012 11:33 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: Robert at April 29, 2012 11:33 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: jc at April 30, 2012 03:31 AM (ufJKx)
Some of them are quite nice -- but it should be the luck of the draw.....and announced after the election.
Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2012 11:33 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 30, 2012 03:03 AM (r7Ddb)
If I break a Gushie, did I just buy it?
Posted by: Robert has no superglue on hand at April 29, 2012 11:34 PM (4ixH5)
If I break a Gushie, did I just buy it?
Posted by: Robert has no superglue on hand at April 30, 2012 03:34 AM (4ixH5)
no but you have to go explain in person to Grim what you did and what it was over. If your lucky maybe he'll just laugh and call you a jackass. If its serious you might want body armour. I suggest something in the way of a padded kevlar arming coat and steel plate over that
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 29, 2012 11:40 PM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 29, 2012 11:41 PM (bxiXv)
I'm consistent that way ...
Posted by: Adriane at April 29, 2012 11:45 PM (VVZaH)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 30, 2012 03:41 AM (bxiXv)
ok i am gonna admit my secret thing i cant live without... zane gray and will james cowboy stories. i really love that shit. but its like literary comfort food. i dont think i can even bend my mind into turning it into porn, much less Firefly Crossover fetish porn, even though i REALLY like Firefly... LIKE, A LOT.
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 29, 2012 11:48 PM (r7Ddb)
If you look on the AtariAge forums in the Classic Computing section, you'll find the BYTE thread with all the download links for the PDF archives.
http://tinyurl.com/78zag29 appears to have everything from the various locations in one place. Be sure to check the Other dirctories.
January 1984 appears to be the one everybody is missing. Except for that I've got a complete set through the end of 1985. I have four from 1986 and after that nobody appears to have done the scanning work. Though a lot of the material I'm looking to recover does exist in places like Lexis and various university online collections.
I have a Fujitsu ScanSnap that is pretty well suited to the task but it requires sacrificial copies to have their spines removed so the pages can be scanned. Unless you have one of the rigs designed to deal with curvature of the spine in the print sense of the phrase, it's almost impossible to ge t a good scan from the intact magazines. If you'd care to part with those copies for the cause of making them into PDFs for everyone... eric at pobirs dot com (Yes, I've got firstname@lastname for my email. One of the few benefits of having such a rare name.)
While it would be nice to have more of the issues scanned, I'd settle for just the text of the Chaos Manor columns for this project. I can't help wondering why that issue is so elusive.
Posted by: epobirs at April 29, 2012 11:49 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Robert at April 29, 2012 11:51 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: epobirs at April 30, 2012 03:33 AM (kcfmt)
yeah and we end up with what ever those AvP films were supposed to be. It's akin to instead of the awesome Aliens comics, we end up with what Alien 3 and Resurrection were. Fincher's style couldn't save 3 and though a Caro+Jeunet+Whedon is a fanboy's wetdream, they got fucked by Fox (to the point where I still don't think Caro and Jeunet has talked to each other)
Posted by: The Dude at April 29, 2012 11:51 PM (M8yfa)
I'm consistent that way ...
Posted by: Adriane at April 30, 2012 03:45 AM (VVZaH)
Kindle-ize 'em, then beg Glenn Reynolds for some linkage.
Seems to work.
Posted by: Robert at April 29, 2012 11:52 PM (4ixH5)
heh!
I once contributed a comment on Don Surber's blog that got linked approvingly by the good Prof. I use the same nic that I do here, but was simply listed as 'a reader' ...
Oh well.
Posted by: Adriane at April 29, 2012 11:56 PM (VVZaH)
Posted by: Adriane at April 30, 2012 03:56 AM (VVZaH)
Ace once front paged a video I linked in a thread. Happy happy joy joy!
Posted by: Robert at April 29, 2012 11:59 PM (4ixH5)
One of my favorites is the first X-men movie. Whedon says roughly five seconds is all that survived of his contribution: the exchange where Wolverine proves he isn't Mystique by declaring that Cyclops is a dick.
Posted by: epobirs at April 30, 2012 12:00 AM (kcfmt)
Now see, he can't do that with Jefe or the Hello Kitty licensers would have us shut down FER SURE...
Posted by: Adriane at April 30, 2012 12:01 AM (VVZaH)
Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2012 12:01 AM (kaalw)
Sadface
Posted by: Robert at April 30, 2012 03:59 AM (4ixH5)
I suspect he'll be back.
Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2012 12:02 AM (kaalw)
I got some soft pillows and I might be able to find a footballs helmet. I'm screwed.
Posted by: Robert at April 30, 2012 03:51 AM (4ixH5)
reading that, he says yeah youre pretty much fucked.
but if its just the eyeball thing, he does that to me at least six or seven times a day. He surprised they dont just roll out by now.
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 30, 2012 12:02 AM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 30, 2012 12:03 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Adriane at April 30, 2012 04:01 AM (VVZaH)
Heh, I'm wondering if I keep posting metal links long enough if the RIAA will show up at Ace's door with a cease and desist.
"Someone dropped a Metallica link on your blog, YOU'RE RUNNING A PIRACY OPERATION!"
Posted by: Robert at April 30, 2012 12:04 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Alex at April 30, 2012 12:06 AM (zSobX)
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 30, 2012 12:06 AM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2012 12:07 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 30, 2012 04:02 AM (r7Ddb)
I just imagined that scene from the end of Roger Rabbit with Christopher Lloyd's eyes popping out.
I've watched too many movies in my lifetime.
Posted by: Robert, Nerdking of South Texas at April 30, 2012 12:07 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Alex at April 30, 2012 04:06 AM (zSobX)
ok, then confess what shows/comics/whatevers! Enquiring minds wanna know.
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 30, 2012 12:07 AM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2012 12:08 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: Alex at April 30, 2012 04:06 AM (zSobX)
tell the truth, you were a Sonic Passion poster
Posted by: The Dude at April 30, 2012 12:08 AM (M8yfa)
It can be done ...
I blame Anne Rice and the human condition.
According the people who study such things, classical scholars of the Victorian era could not wrap their heads around a common Greek passage that could only be {literally} translated as "He stuck a hot fish in her navel..."
Until they realized they were translating ancient Greek porn ...
Posted by: Adriane at April 30, 2012 12:11 AM (VVZaH)
Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2012 04:07 AM (kaalw)
as someone who had a 10 year run of EGM (89-99), I know the pain. I just threw them out one day when I was moving
Posted by: The Dude at April 30, 2012 12:11 AM (M8yfa)
Star Wars / Star Trek.
I also sketched out ideas for a Wheel of Time / Star Wars fanfic.
I can't believe I just confessed that...
Posted by: Alex at April 30, 2012 12:12 AM (zSobX)
Posted by: Robert at April 30, 2012 12:13 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Adriane at April 30, 2012 04:11 AM (VVZaH)
Hot fish, ay?
Posted by: Robert at April 30, 2012 12:14 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Alex at April 30, 2012 04:12 AM (zSobX)
its okay. (pats hand soothingly) Gushie doesnt judge. Besides, i really like the Wheel of Time.
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 30, 2012 12:14 AM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: Alex at April 30, 2012 04:12 AM (zSobX)
That'll be 10 Our Fathers and 15 Hail Marys.
Posted by: Robert at April 30, 2012 12:15 AM (4ixH5)
According the people who study such things, classical scholars of the Victorian era could not wrap their heads around a common Greek passage that could only be {literally} translated as "He stuck a hot fish in her navel..."
Well there's certainly some olfactory truth there.
I just had other interests besides writing about relationships between characters that never ever should have them. Battles, honor, loyalty: all that stuff interested me more than attempts to describe sex when I was a virgin.
Posted by: Alex at April 30, 2012 12:17 AM (zSobX)
its okay. (pats hand soothingly) Gushie doesnt judge. Besides, i really like the Wheel of Time.
Thanks. It had an Asha'man vs. Jedi Knight scene where they are being chased through the Jedi Temple, using gateways to keep ahead of their pursuers. Lots of fireballs and flying debris and flaming swords vs. lightsabers. Fun times.
Posted by: Alex at April 30, 2012 12:21 AM (zSobX)
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 30, 2012 12:22 AM (r7Ddb)
Plus I went out afterwards to grab a bite to eat with a girl I met there. We're going to try and meet up later this week.
Posted by: Alex at April 30, 2012 12:25 AM (zSobX)
Posted by: Alex at April 30, 2012 04:25 AM (zSobX)
so no dreadful tattoos or major personality flaws yet discernible, i take it?
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 30, 2012 12:27 AM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2012 04:07 AM (kaalw)
as someone who had a 10 year run of EGM (89-99), I know the pain. I just threw them out one day when I was moving
Posted by: The Dude at April 30, 2012 04:11 AM (M8yfa)
When you look at computer mags from the early ages ('79-'00), there was a lot of specific knowledge that wasn't available any other way. But it was also during a time when transitory media just exploded. Case in point: no theater print from the original Star Wars exists -- they had to recreate it (leaving the door open for Lucas' insanity and ego to have free rein).....they figured that they had made so many, nobody had to keep one -- and they were all destroyed.
So I've got stuff in my garage that I'd feel bad about discarding because it might be the only copy left.....but hate to keep 'cause it's a pain. I was a long-term BYTE subscriber from way back -- getting my hands on a pdf archive would be great, but contributing to missing segments of that archive would be even better.
Of course, there is the shadow of satori, where every bit of knowledge I've ever known, every maya, is cast onto the internet to live forever without the burden of self. Heh.
Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2012 12:30 AM (kaalw)
My original in-work work is a post-holocaust, via meteor strike, Earth.
Our hero, Phillippe, is currently crossing the desert via an abandoned underground city guided by a snake cybernetically linked to the city-brain itself.
There aren't words to describe the number of Hail Mary's for that one.
Posted by: Adriane at April 30, 2012 12:30 AM (VVZaH)
so no dreadful tattoos or major personality flaws yet discernible, i take it?
No tattoos, but I haven't had a chance to make a thorough examination
. As for personality flaws, the only one I can find is that she treats hobos as if they were human. Posted by: Alex at April 30, 2012 12:32 AM (zSobX)
There aren't words to describe the number of Hail Mary's for that one.
Posted by: Adriane at April 30, 2012 04:30 AM (VVZaH)
actually, as a Bruce Sterling fan, thats kinda awesome. seriously.
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 30, 2012 12:33 AM (r7Ddb)
the better to lure them to the stew pot, my dear ...
Posted by: Granny, what Big Teeth you have! at April 30, 2012 12:34 AM (VVZaH)
Posted by: epobirs at April 30, 2012 12:41 AM (kcfmt)
Cool. I have a couple of stories that I need to keep working on. One involves two men trying to escape a city in the midst of being sacked. Another is about a knight who is sent on a holy mission of revenge, but discovers that it conflicts with his oath to seek atonement for actions he took years before.
Posted by: Alex at April 30, 2012 12:41 AM (zSobX)
Posted by: Alex at April 30, 2012 04:41 AM (zSobX)
what period? (she asked lazily) OMG Grim is snoring!!!!
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 30, 2012 12:44 AM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: Robert at April 30, 2012 12:47 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 30, 2012 04:44 AM (r7Ddb)
Pinch his nose shut?
Posted by: Robert at April 30, 2012 12:48 AM (4ixH5)
I found a torrent with the complete US Heavy Metal magazine, so I could finally let those go. And I have a DVD of the entire National Lampoon run that Circuit City sold me for $5 when they went under.
And of course I long since got rid of most of my comics. Now I have about 7 TB of scans, most burned in series sets to DVD in no particular order. It might be easier to redownload something than find the disc its on.
I've winnowed a lot of stuff down to things of special value. Playboys signed by the centerfold model. Publications in which I was mentioned by name or was a contributor. Stuff like that.
Posted by: epobirs at April 30, 2012 12:49 AM (kcfmt)
I wish you best of luck and the self discipline to accomplish your goals.
I put all my stories on hold when I went to back to school for a few classes. So I need to reawaken the muse, myself ...
Posted by: Adriane at April 30, 2012 12:49 AM (VVZaH)
Posted by: epobirs at April 30, 2012 04:41 AM (kcfmt)
I'm 95050. Professional background in manufacturing companies left me with a fixation on cost control with logistics. 'K, that'll give me something to chew on tomorrow.
Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2012 12:49 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: Robert at April 30, 2012 04:47 AM (4ixH5)
ok. wow. THAT's a zinger!. heh. and exactly the way i feel about rap. Great fancy Moses! thats craptastic stuff. i would rather listen to atonal classical music, and frankly i think that stuff was written for Satan's symphony, and sounds like a broken dish washing machine to me.
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 30, 2012 12:53 AM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: Robert at April 30, 2012 04:47 AM (4ixH5)
that is a fucking horrible list
Posted by: The Dude at April 30, 2012 04:51 AM (M8yfa)
Next up: Top 10 Racist Slurs! Count 'em down with us!
Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2012 12:54 AM (kaalw)
The period where the archive peters out is also when the mag was at its thickest. They had to go searching for more content to justify all the advertising demand. One of those PDFs is a massive 780 MB for the issue in November 1983 that ran 720 pages.
They got thinner as personal computing became more mainstream and the last ten years weren't phone book of the month club anymore.
The end came rather abruptly. I was in Atlanta for E3 and had been in my hotel room barely half an hour when I checked my email and discovered I was now on an unpaid vacation. The announcement of the Sega Dreamcast alone should have paid for the trip, as it had an interesting angle with the WinCE support.
Posted by: epobirs at April 30, 2012 01:02 AM (kcfmt)
Tonight's thread was kind of funny with all the snake talk.
The city-brain protects the city with "Guardian Snakes" i.e. poisonous snakes which patrol the city for intruders. Phillippe though, remembers his 'red on black, poison lack' and realizes that he needs to take the door guarded by the non-poisonous snake.
But ... apply seat of pants to seat of chair ... and write, edit, and write some more ...
Posted by: Adriane at April 30, 2012 01:05 AM (VVZaH)
Planet Rock - Afrika Bambaataa & Soulsonic Force
Contemporary Jeep music - Da King & I
Goin' Off - Biz Markie
Can I Borrow a Dollar? - Common
3 Feet High & Rising - De La Soul
Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde - Pharcyde
Will Rap For Food - CunninLynquists
DO YOU WANT MORE?!!!??! - The Roots
Reel to Reel - Grand Puba
Low End Theory - A Tribe Called Quest
Posted by: The Dude at April 30, 2012 01:05 AM (M8yfa)
Fantasy. A knight, mortally wounded in an ambush along a forest road, is revived by the local spirit who demands in return that he kill the champion of her nemesis. The knight journeys to a nearby city, and discovers that the champion is the son of a woman whose daughter he wronged years ago. The daughter subsequently killed herself. The woman, due to her family connections, is being pursued by the corrupt prince of the city who wants to force a marriage to himself.
Posted by: Alex at April 30, 2012 01:06 AM (zSobX)
Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2012 01:07 AM (kaalw)
Violets aren't in season,
May all of us find comfort,
In the return of Rhyme and Reason ...
and yes, I am a Phantom Tollbooth fan ...
night all...
dishwashers and washing machines don't load themselves ...
Posted by: Adriane at April 30, 2012 01:10 AM (VVZaH)
Posted by: Alex at April 30, 2012 01:12 AM (zSobX)
Posted by: billypaintbrush at April 30, 2012 01:16 AM (fQxwJ)
Posted by: Alex at April 30, 2012 05:12 AM (zSobX)
I'd eat Sarah Palin in a second, if you know what I mean.
Posted by: Robert at April 30, 2012 01:17 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Alex at April 30, 2012 05:12 AM (zSobX)
aaaaaannnnd the man has no taste. i cannot believe he doesn't get that belabouring the point he ate dog doesnt help him. even non dog lovers in America think eating dog is gross...like shamefully disgustingly so. its like being really good at licking ass. you never admit in public that you do it. Its just NOT DONE.
seriously, if i was starving to death, i would prefer to eat a snake or a fried grasshopper, and i think bugs are nasty.
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 30, 2012 01:19 AM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2012 01:20 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 30, 2012 01:21 AM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 30, 2012 01:23 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 30, 2012 05:21 AM (r7Ddb)
Gushie's pumped up?
http://tinyurl.com/88ly6us
Posted by: Robert at April 30, 2012 01:25 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 30, 2012 01:52 AM (r7Ddb)
Time for me to go do my thing. That thing. Which I'm supposed to be doing. The reason I'm up at 5AM. At a place that is not home.
That thing which half jokingly might be referred to as work. Perhaps a gross parody of such, or a spiteful satire of it.
Adio, fair ONT!
Good night, Gushie!
Good night, Epo!
Good night, Alex!
Good night, Mero!
Good morning, Vic!
Posted by: Robert at April 30, 2012 02:04 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at April 30, 2012 02:14 AM (r7Ddb)
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Posted by: Milo at April 30, 2012 02:26 AM (1agxt)
Obama was not courageous and I firmly believe he would have done nothing if Panetta hadn't maneuvered it so that he had no choice.
Am wondering if Petreaus taking CIA and Panetta to defense was a move forced by Clinton/Petraeus/Panetta/Gates in order to have a firewall against Obama and to protect the nation.
Posted by: Miss Marple at April 30, 2012 02:29 AM (GoIUi)
And a dog's penis?
Oh my..that get Barky hard.
Posted by: Nutmeg Moron at April 30, 2012 02:39 AM (NzgQ0)
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I am not clear if I totally understand the full thought pattern behind this.
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Gone Dady Gone, They actually made money on that? Rock and Roll on the xylophone? WTF
Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 29, 2012 05:37 PM (JKNDp)