June 20, 2012

Overnight open Thread (6-20-2012)
— Maetenloch

But of course: Sen. McCain Wants Federal Regulations for Boxing

My friends if you enjoyed his fine work in cap-and-trade and McCain-Feingold, then you'll love this.

Now McCain may have somehow finagled a lifetime 89 ACU rating but in his gut he's all nanny-stater:

Arguing the sweet science is "plagued" by "fraud, corruption and ineffective regulation," Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is proposing a United States Boxing Commission with the power to determine who judges and referees major fights.

McCain co-introduced the legislation Monday with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (both men were amateur boxers in their younger years). The duo's move was spurred by Timothy Bradley's controversial win over Manny Pacquiao earlier this month in Las Vegas. Reid, who represents the boxing mecca of Nevada, said last week he believed Pacquiao should've won the fight, an opinion echoed by pundits. The promoter who represents both fighters said the "outlandish" decision represented "a death knell for the sport."

"Professional boxing remains the only major sport in the United States that does not have a strong, centralized association, league or other regulatory body to establish and enforce uniform rules and practices," McCain said in a Senate floor speech introducing the legislation.
Call me cynical but I'm wondering exactly how much Dingy Harry and The Maverick lost on that fight.

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Ocean Justice

I guess it's some kind of cosmic justice when dolphins who are known for their general rape-rapiness end up getting tentacle-raped themselves.

An octopus got the joyride of its life last week when it somehow became stuck on the belly of a bottlenose dolphin in the Ionian Sea. More specifically, the tentacled sea creature had a seat on the dolphin's genital slit.

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Portland is a Giant 'Food Desert' According to Government

Which would seem odd since it's got tons of grocery stores and many, many restaurants. But this is a government definition (hence involving sweet, sweet government money) we're talking about:

According to USDA guidelines, neighborhoods more than a mile from a grocery store (and meeting certain below-average-income requirements) qualify as food deserts. Portland, however, deems low-income areas a mere half-mile from a grocery store "underserved," despite the fact that 94 percent of Portland households report owning at least one car (compared with 70 percent of households in San Francisco and 46 percent in New York).

...And if the center of a census tract is more than half a mile from a full-service grocery store, the entire tract is labeled underserved. As a result, Portland boasts "food deserts" containing Safeway, Trader Joe's, and Grocery Outlet stores simply because those outlets are more than half a mile from the center of the local census tract.

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Your Government at Work: Over 1700 Drug Shortages Created or Saved!

Unsurprisingly when you raise the costs of manufacturing and reduce the amount of money companies can make from generic drugs, they will rationally decide to stop making them. Hence the current shortages of very commonly used injectable drugs

The FDA began to ramp up GMP rules and regulations under the new commissioner in 2010 and 2011 (see figure at left). In fact, the report indicates that FDA threats shut down some 30% of the manufacturing capacity at the big producers of generic injectables. The safety of these lines was not a large problem and could have been handled with a targeted approach but instead the FDA launched a sweep against all the major manufacturers at the same time. These problem have been exacerbated by a change in Medicare reimbursement rules and by the rise of GPOs (buying groups) which reduced the prices of generics. Thus, in response to the cut in capacity, firms have shifted production from less profitable generics to more profitable branded drugs, so we get shortages of generics rather than of branded drugs.

Add to these major factors a few unique events such as the FDA now requiring pre-1938 and pre-62 drugs to go through expensive clinical trials, the slowdown of ANDAs and crazy stuff such as DEA control over pharmaceutical manufacturing and you get very extensive shortages.

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What Travel Guides Say About the US

A lot about politics, tipping, and avoiding trains. Not so much on the proper etiquette involving smugness, self-satisfaction.

Politics get heavy treatment in the books, as do the subtleties of discussing them, maybe more so than in any other guidebook I've read (what can I say, it's an addiction). Lonely Planet urges caution when discussing immigration. "This is the issue that makes Americans edgy, especially when it gets politicized," they write, subtly suggesting that some Americans might approach the issue differently than others. "Age has a lot to do with Americans' multicultural tolerance."

Rough Guide doesn't shy away from the fact that many non-Americans are less-than-crazy about U.S. politics and foreign policy, and encouragingly notes that many Americans are just as "infuriated" about it as visitors might be. Still, it warns that the political culture saturates everything, and that "The combination of shoot-from-the-hip mentality with laissez-faire capitalism and religious fervor can make the U.S. maddening at times, even to its own residents."

...Americans have a social institution called a "gratuity". Basically, the price on the menu at any place which serves food is not the real price. The real price is 20% higher. You have to calculate 20%, write it under the subtotal, and sum to arrive at the real price. Taxis work the same way. It is considered very rude not to pay the "gratuity."

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How About a Little Herb Alpert and the TJB

I only knew his tunes from endless versions on Muzak so imagine my surprise when I found my dad's Herb Alpert records and discovered that Muzak was based on actual, good songs. And I'll always have fond memories of the whipped cream girl.

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1 Hi Andrew!

Posted by: Mark formerly in Spokane,now in Sandy Ut at June 20, 2012 06:00 PM (xGX1p)

2 Tijuana Brass?   Never heard of them...

Posted by: Charles Gibson at June 20, 2012 06:03 PM (Mrdk1)

3 Drinking agave caipirinhas for medicinal purposes. What an upsetting news day.

Posted by: Y-not at June 20, 2012 06:04 PM (5H6zj)

4 John McCain refers to MMA as human cockfighting.  Fuck that big government loving asshole.

Posted by: buzzion at June 20, 2012 06:04 PM (GULKT)

5 should be...   " Obama....   the word itself makes most men uncomfortable"

Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 20, 2012 06:04 PM (Mrdk1)

6 I used to love Julianne Moore's ginger beaver, especially early on in her career. I'd still hit it, but she's a lefty so that would tend to increase the shrivel factor. Goodnight all.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 20, 2012 06:04 PM (MCDCp)

7 Clown?

Posted by: iamahaiangttiam at June 20, 2012 06:05 PM (EG6oe)

8 Obama. The  name  itself  makes  some  men  uncomfortable.

Posted by: Sandy Vag Berger at June 20, 2012 06:05 PM (c3mby)

9 I hate foreigners, dolphins, octopuses, the FDA, and cities like Portland. I also hate Julianne Moore, but would hit it if the opportunity arose.

Posted by: MrCaniac at June 20, 2012 06:05 PM (1grxW)

10 imagine my surprise when I found my dad's Herb Alpert records and discovered that Muzak was based on actual good songs --- My parents were big on the Herbster. Also the Fifth Dimension. The latter is not something I'd recommend.

Posted by: Y-not at June 20, 2012 06:06 PM (5H6zj)

11 Qualifications? Rape, murder, arson, and rape.

Posted by: Dolphin at June 20, 2012 06:07 PM (GkwjL)

12 Those dolphins are clearly members of the Duke Lacrosse team and need to be arrested!

Posted by: Mike Nifong at June 20, 2012 06:07 PM (1grxW)

13 Bill Maher is the guy geeks and merds beat up for his lunch money.

Posted by: bigred at June 20, 2012 06:07 PM (mIcI8)

14 John McCain is a stoopid ficker, and a pussy. he left his squadron in a combat deployment and refused to call BHO a super stupid mudda fukker

Posted by: jake at June 20, 2012 06:09 PM (RQjPS)

15 13 Those dolphins are clearly members of the Duke Lacrosse team and need to be arrested!
Posted by: Mike Nifong at June 20, 2012 10:07 PM


Mike, you are truly a prosecutor that is willing to take anyone on. You can be on my panel any time!!

Posted by: Nancy Grace at June 20, 2012 06:09 PM (1grxW)

16 John F'n McCain. The world is falling apart and he wants to set boxing straight. He is 2 years from switching parties on the Arlen Specter stupid idea timeline.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at June 20, 2012 06:09 PM (oipCQ)

17 If you find yourself in agreement with Harry Reid perhaps it's time to re-examine your position.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 20, 2012 06:10 PM (xKC/c)

18 I, like, see God in boxing too. It does need to be, like, regulated though.

...and stuff.

Posted by: Meghan McCain at June 20, 2012 06:10 PM (E108D)

19 ..the genital slit ... add it to the forbidden words ... the T word the C word, now we have the GS word. Do not speak of it 

Posted by: SoCalMe at June 20, 2012 06:10 PM (s72/N)

20 Y-not... I grew up with this music... my parents had at least 5 HA & TJB albums..  We played them a LOT.  These and the Beatles and Neil Diamond...

Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 20, 2012 06:10 PM (Mrdk1)

21 Thank God no member of Congress gives a rats ass about us, or our officials would be in real trouble.


XOXOXO love you Lebron XOXOXO

Posted by: The NBA at June 20, 2012 06:10 PM (jza4U)

22 The Rabbit's got nothing on The Octopuss!

Posted by: HornyFemaleDolphin at June 20, 2012 06:11 PM (1jJ7K)

23 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 20, 2012 06:11 PM (JMmQ9)

24 For a while I made a little project of looking for foreign guides to the USA. I have two favorites.

There's a British guide which is the most paranoid thing you've ever seen. It describes America as a kind of Road Warrior landscape. It warns about tornadoes, thunderstorms, forest fires, hurricanes, earthquakes, flash floods, poison ivy, poison sumac, deadly scorpions, fire ants, tarantulas, coyotes, bears, and rabid squirrels, among other perils. Fighting to survive in this landscape are Americans, who are all heavily armed, shoot people at the slightest provocation, and spend their time robbing or defrauding each other when they're not engaging in murderous displays of national pride.

It's a guide for people who don't really want to go to America anyway.

By contrast my French guidebook is absurdly debonair. Need a place to sleep? Bus stations are convenient places to stay the night! Looking for a cheap way to get around? Hitchike!

It's also written with no sense of scale at all. If you're visiting New York, why not zip down to Washington DC? Or Williamsburg? If you're in Los Angeles, the Grand Canyon is practically next door!

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 20, 2012 06:11 PM (SJCgJ)

25 4 John McCain refers to MMA as human cockfighting. Fuck that big government loving asshole.

Posted by: buzzion at June 20, 2012 10:04 PM (GULKT)


I wouldn't fuck him or his dimwitted daughter. Now his wife may find out why I'm billed as "The Next Big Thing".

Posted by: Brock Lesner at June 20, 2012 06:12 PM (1grxW)

26 Issa on Greta Gowdy on Anderson Cooper

Posted by: Sonnyspats at June 20, 2012 06:12 PM (Qr9Rc)

27 Issa on Greta. Issa says documents Holder is withholding are "embarrassing". Issa wouldn't say he suspects Holder of obstruction of justice.

Posted by: Thunderb at June 20, 2012 06:12 PM (Dnbau)

28 Oh, and is that that magazine hag in the bottom video that co-hosted the Obama dinner with whatsherhorseface?

Posted by: enquring mind at June 20, 2012 06:12 PM (jza4U)

29 I once used the words "genital slit" in a bar and got smacked

Posted by: Ben at June 20, 2012 06:14 PM (UvdzB)

30

Posted by: Brock Lesner at June 20, 2012 10:12 PM (1grxW)

 

You quit and went back to the WWE after your glass jaw got exposed.

Posted by: buzzion at June 20, 2012 06:14 PM (GULKT)

31 You people are not pro-gun or free trade.

If you were you would approve the Mexican gun sales.

Posted by: Mary Jane Rottencrotch at June 20, 2012 06:15 PM (deJfP)

32 so according to that definition, a farmer would be in a "food desert" because he would be more than one mile from a grocery store? What?

Posted by: Thunderb at June 20, 2012 06:15 PM (Dnbau)

33 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 06:16 PM (R5yLq)

34 Yo!

Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 20, 2012 06:16 PM (Mrdk1)

35 John, you senile old meat head. Shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down. Your embarrassing yourself. No fool like an old  fool. Especially one with a big mouth daughter equipped with a stegosaurus brain, a small one to work her mouth and a much bigger one to move that gigantic ass about.

Posted by: maddogg at June 20, 2012 06:17 PM (XFQn4)

36 Vagina....the word might make me uncomfortable, but the real thing?.....

Comfortable. 

Miiiiighty comfortable.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at June 20, 2012 06:18 PM (HzO4m)

37

Saying Regina, the capital city of Saskatchewan, makes me uncomfortable.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 20, 2012 06:18 PM (Q7Kbs)

38 Yeah, the drug shortage thing.  Something has to happen because it's getting insane.  Currently we're short on Morphine, Sodium Bicarb, most anti-emetics, and some others that have been around forever but are less well known.  

Posted by: happy little trees at June 20, 2012 06:18 PM (bqjJT)

39 37 so according to that definition, a farmer would be in a "food desert" because he would be more than one mile from a grocery store? What?

Posted by: Thunderb at June 20, 2012 10:15 PM (Dnbau)

 

GOVERNMENT, MOTHERF*****, DO YOU SPEAK IT?

 

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 20, 2012 06:19 PM (ND9u8)

40 12 Qualifications? Rape, murder, arson, and rape. Posted by: Dolphin at June 20, 2012 10:07 PM (GkwjL) You said "rape" twice...

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at June 20, 2012 06:19 PM (KLP9f)

41 If Julianne Moore is too much of a lefty, you jus need to hit it from the right IYKWIMAITTYD

Posted by: Thunderb at June 20, 2012 06:19 PM (Dnbau)

42 I voted absentee today. Not a lot of choices on the ballot b/c of our wacky caucus system, but Newt was actually still on the presidential one (as was Santorum) so I gave him my vote and I voted Liljenquist against Hatc. Tried to do due diligence on our Atty General, State Rep, and Cty Commissioner, but boy is it hard to come up to speed on local politics. Atty General was the hardest one. Utah is disturbingly squishy on immigration (as was the outgoing AG). We need to fix that.

Posted by: Y-not at June 20, 2012 06:19 PM (5H6zj)

43 4 John McCain refers to MMA as human cockfighting. Fuck that big government loving asshole. Posted by: buzzion at June 20, 2012 10:04 PM (GULKT) Sounds like something I should try out with my sweatie-pie Barry!

Posted by: Barack Obama's Secret Gay Boyfriend at June 20, 2012 06:21 PM (KLP9f)

44 John McCain refers to MMA as human cockfighting.

Is it the kind of cockfighting I like? If it is, go on...

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at June 20, 2012 06:21 PM (lyStv)

45 Didn't McCain play The Kid From Deliverance?

Posted by: TexasJew at June 20, 2012 06:21 PM (Q7Kbs)

46 Ok where is Sandra Fluke

Posted by: Thunderb at June 20, 2012 06:22 PM (Dnbau)

47

Its funny how a Man can shine under adversity, yet be a total failure at other things...

 

Thanks Sen. McCain for your heroic actions as a POW...

 

But, after loosing 5 aircraft, that still makes you an ENEMY Ace.

 

Now... please go away....

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 20, 2012 06:22 PM (lZBBB)

48 An octopus got the joyride of its life last week when it somehow became stuck on the belly of a bottlenose dolphin in the Ionian Sea. More specifically, the tentacled sea creature had a seat on the dolphin's genital slit.

The Japanese consider "live octopus on a genital slit" an exotic delicacy.

Posted by: Cicero at June 20, 2012 06:23 PM (7ppar)

49 Interesting comment about human cocky fighting. Because I'm pretty sure nobody in the UFC, Pride or MMA in general has ever been killed in the ring.

Posted by: Secundus at June 20, 2012 06:23 PM (hp71M)

50 Hmmm... One of the US ArmyÂ’s rising stars stands accused of obstructing an inquiry into widespread corruption and mismanagement of the Afghan forces he mentored. And if the charges are accurate, they could end the career of one of the militaryÂ’s top officers. Lt. Gen. William Caldwell IV, until last year the US officer in charge of training Afghan security forces, allegedly blocked a Defense Department inspector general investigation into a pattern of misconduct exhibited by the Afghan National ArmyÂ’s medical division. Aided by his senior staff, Caldwell prevented that inquiry to spare his command embarrassment ahead of US national elections. via @jasoninthehouse http://t.co/q16qNnXh Also looking into this situation

Posted by: Y-not at June 20, 2012 06:24 PM (5H6zj)

51 The dolphin referred to the experience with the octopus as "fluking"

Posted by: Thunderb at June 20, 2012 06:24 PM (Dnbau)

52 12 >> Qualifications? Rape, murder, arson, and rape.
 
You said 'rape' twice.
 
Speciesist.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 20, 2012 06:24 PM (ccXZP)

53 Evening, all. I usually walk to the Safeway about a mile away if I need just a few things. But there are three bars that are closer. So, I consider my area a food desert/bar oasis. Maybe I can get a gummint grant.

Posted by: jakeman at June 20, 2012 06:24 PM (96M6e)

54

49 4 John McCain refers to MMA as human cockfighting. Fuck that big government loving asshole.

Posted by: buzzion at June 20, 2012 10:04 PM (GULKT)

 

But boxing is different because he did it many years ago or something.  If he were joining the Navy nowadays, much of the hand to hand combat that he would learn would be informed by MMA-style fighting.  He has ceased looking through the windshield, and is only viewing life through the rear-view mirror.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 20, 2012 06:24 PM (ND9u8)

55 Got my high school sophomore's summer reading list for English lit. He's got to pick one of ten books and read it. What a sorry collection of trash they've picked for the list. There's nothing remotely resembling classic literature on the list. One of them is "Dreams From My Father" by Barack Obama. Another is "Crank", about crystal meth. Another is about life in a street gang. Three are feminist lit about struggles of 'ethnic' women. The Holocaust is the setting for at least one of them. It's a metaphor for the patriarchy. Another is about hopelessness while growing up on an Indian reservation. I don't know who's more pissed, me or my boy. He's the stooge who has to read one.

Posted by: Cowboy at June 20, 2012 06:25 PM (CqxTO)

56 13 Those dolphins are clearly members of the Duke Lacrosse team and need to be arrested! Posted by: Mike Nifong at June 20, 2012 10:07 PM (1grxW) You evil racist and speciest oppressors! The Duke Lacrosse team were all strait white males who were oppressing a black woman just by being white and they support the patriarchy and they must be punished because... um... SOCIAL JUSTICE! Dolphins are not human and are a precious part of nature and therefor can not be evil because only humans are evil because they rape the planet and kill dolphins and stuff. If a dolphin tried to have sex with me it would be my fault for being a human parasite and I'd be the rapist but I am enlightened therefor it would be some strait white males fault!!!1eleventy!

Posted by: Social Studies Graduate Student at June 20, 2012 06:25 PM (KLP9f)

57 30 Issa on Greta

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It's not *my* fault she's up against the Futurama season premier.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 20, 2012 06:26 PM (1c58W)

58 Wow, that was supposed to say cockfighting.

Posted by: Secundus at June 20, 2012 06:27 PM (hp71M)

59 I am so pissed at these idiot congresspersons that continuously fail in fulfilling their Constitutional obligations to us citizens, but have the time to waste our money on how best to regulate the way athletes play a GAME and/or how the GAME is scored.  There are real-world non-game things going on, you congressional idiots, and you should start doing your real jobs.

Vote the bastards out!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 20, 2012 06:28 PM (i3+c5)

60

Prize fighting has to be the dumbest "sport" in modern human existence.

 

At least Ali is drooling on $100 dollar bills.

 

 

Posted by: ErikW at June 20, 2012 06:28 PM (yt109)

61 Wow, that was supposed to say cockfighting.

You don't follow advice very well, do you kid.

Posted by: Han Solo at June 20, 2012 06:28 PM (7ppar)

62

56 Interesting comment about human cocky fighting. Because I'm pretty sure nobody in the UFC, Pride or MMA in general has ever been killed in the ring.

Posted by: Secundus at June 20, 2012 10:23 PM (hp71M)

 

There has been at least one death in an MMA match that I am aware of.  So yeah it has happened, but not at the UFC, Pride, or Strikeforce level.  And its definitely a low number.

Posted by: buzzion at June 20, 2012 06:28 PM (GULKT)

63 Condescending Sanctimonious Twits would be a good name for an emo band (see HA for details on Neil Cavuto's rant).
 
Their lawns are self mowing -- they cut themselves.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 20, 2012 06:28 PM (ccXZP)

64 It doesn't surprise me that Dingy Harry is upset about Paquio's loss. He campaigned for Harry. Let's forget that Paquio's was a Constitutional officer for the Phillipines at the time.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 20, 2012 06:29 PM (pajrX)

65 Romney's sons on Conan tonight.

Posted by: buzzion at June 20, 2012 06:29 PM (GULKT)

66 ..................

Posted by: Yip in Texas at June 20, 2012 06:29 PM (Mrdk1)

67 #62 I would have him read Obama's book. The two of you can research it together and refute all of its major points.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 06:30 PM (R5yLq)

68 And after he's done with boxing, Captain Prostate will be ramming through the Johnson-Bowles bill, outlawing urinals in public restrooms. All your sons will be sitzpinklers. For their health.

Posted by: 66chevelle at June 20, 2012 06:30 PM (QjSgY)

69 62-Cowboy, I am so sorry. He only has a choice of ten books? Is there a possibility of his choosing an alternate title, as long as it's ok'd by the school? See if he can do that, and then find a reading list from a different school district and look for some books there. And please tell me this is a public school, and not a private one.

Posted by: moki at June 20, 2012 06:30 PM (dZmFh)

70 We are Octopus

Posted by: TexasJew at June 20, 2012 06:30 PM (Q7Kbs)

71 I guess that octopus watched Prometheus.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2012 06:30 PM (XSVkw)

72 My nearest grocery store is a mile and a half away, where's my gubmint cheez?

Posted by: booger at June 20, 2012 06:31 PM (HI6wa)

73 The real price is 20% higher. You have to calculate 20%, write it under the subtotal, and sum to arrive at the real price. Taxis work the same way. It is considered very rude not to pay the "gratuity."

Gratuity? Hell, I don't even pay the bill.

Posted by: Barky O'Dogeater at June 20, 2012 06:31 PM (7ppar)

74 Posted by: Cowboy at June 20, 2012 10:25 PM (CqxTO)

If you feel up to it, create your own list (or ask for recommendations from the AoS Sunday book thread).  This sounds too much like total indoctrination to accept without a pushback.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 20, 2012 06:32 PM (i3+c5)

75 Portland isn't a food desert, it's a hot chick desert.

The women there are either frumpy, crazy/disheveled, or confused about their gender.

Posted by: runninrebel at June 20, 2012 10:11 PM (N/1Dm)


This, the hottest chicks that I know from Oregon were from Medford.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 20, 2012 06:32 PM (tKFT6)

76 #65 It was much funnier the other way

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 06:32 PM (R5yLq)

77 Chaffetz just tweeted that he's looking into this as well.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/caldwell/

Another cover-up? Well, if it's the part of the week ending in "day", then of course it's a cover-up.


Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 20, 2012 06:32 PM (piMMO)

78 I've been to the food desert on a horse with no name.  So I ate the horse.

Posted by: Barky O'Dogeater at June 20, 2012 06:33 PM (7ppar)

79 BTW can we arrange a blind date between the octopus and Meggie Mac?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2012 06:33 PM (XSVkw)

80 In mccain's defense if you look at the trajectory of megan's career sooner or later she is going to be in a ring with tonya harding and he is concerned over her wellbeing and there are not any objective tests that are going to determine whether megan sustained any injuries as a result of her ass kicking; mental or physical

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 20, 2012 06:33 PM (Z9EHQ)

81 @62 I'd read Obama's book, and blue pencil the hell out of it at the same time. "Stale euphemism." "Cite source, please." And at the end: "The highest I would grade this is a B+. See me after class."

Posted by: Secundus at June 20, 2012 06:33 PM (hp71M)

82

Uh.... Sen McCain?  Wheres the BUDGET?

 

 

Hmmm.... might be a fun little tactic... every time ANY Senator gets up to speak... just yell 'BUDGET?'

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 20, 2012 06:33 PM (lZBBB)

83 Did Herb Alpert rescue his band members from Number Six's village?
And is that trombone player the laziest fucking man in show business, or what?

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at June 20, 2012 06:34 PM (a5ljo)

84 It's also written with no sense of scale at all. If you're visiting New York, why not zip down to Washington DC? Or Williamsburg? If you're in Los Angeles, the Grand Canyon is practically next door!

Heh, that's like the bit from Euro Trip, when Cooper and Scotty find out they can get a courier trip to London:

Cooper: Europe's like the size of Eastwood Mall. We can walk to Berlin from there.
Scotty: England's an island.
Cooper: Swim, then, whatever.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 20, 2012 06:34 PM (BJ51P)

85 That dolphin got Rosie O'Donnelled

Posted by: Thunderb at June 20, 2012 06:34 PM (Dnbau)

86 @84 Disturbing that it involves a general.

Posted by: Y-not at June 20, 2012 06:34 PM (5H6zj)

87 hi all
let's hear it for the octopus
and I liked Herb Alpert's tunes, good stuff

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 06:34 PM (LK3ef)

88 @46/12 I like octo-rape.

Posted by: Outlaw Dolphin at June 20, 2012 06:36 PM (D7oNS)

89 sooner or later she is going to be in a ring with tonya harding a mountain of cheeseburgers and donuts and he is concerned over her wellbeing

FIFY

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 06:36 PM (LK3ef)

90 OOOO Michelle Bachmom is introducing a 'Resolution of disapproval" of Obozo to congress. Then she is making cookies.

Posted by: Sonnyspats at June 20, 2012 06:36 PM (Qr9Rc)

91 The FDA is beyond idiotic when it comes to dealing with drug companies. Most drugs cost billions of dollars before they are even guaranteed any success. IF they get past the FDA, and another billion worth of testing, then they start to make actual money. One out of every ten drug projects that get fully paid for and approved end up making any money.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 20, 2012 06:36 PM (tKFT6)

92 It doesn't surprise me that Dingy Harry is upset about Paquio's loss. He campaigned for Harry.

Let's forget that Paquio's was a Constitutional officer for the Phillipines at the time.


****

How many tens of millions of dollars did he make in the last year? Yeah, I feel really bad about someone who gets paid when he fails.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 20, 2012 06:37 PM (piMMO)

93 herb alpert - lonely bull
http://tinyurl.com/67jqgs

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 06:38 PM (LK3ef)

94 Buzzion, I heard of a guy who got killed in some unregulated amateur thing in Romania or somewhere, years ago. Was that the case you were referring to?

Posted by: Secundus at June 20, 2012 06:38 PM (hp71M)

95 I "pulled the lever" for John McCain in 2008, and I will never forgive the Republican Party for my debasement. I will rejoice in the day this withered, vain, insufferable preening jackass finally leaves the political scene at long last.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 20, 2012 06:38 PM (lzvtR)

96 Ugh I hope one of those books isn't The Painted Bird

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 20, 2012 06:39 PM (SB0V2)

97 101 Buzzion, I heard of a guy who got killed in some unregulated amateur thing in Romania or somewhere, years ago. Was that the case you were referring to?

Posted by: Secundus at June 20, 2012 10:38 PM (hp71M)

 

No, it was in the US.

Posted by: buzzion at June 20, 2012 06:40 PM (GULKT)

98 How many tens of millions of dollars did he make in the last year? Yeah, I feel really bad about someone who gets paid when he fails.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 20, 2012 10:37 PM (piMMO)


The most interesting question is how much money is he getting for the rematch in the fall? Bob Arum is his manager, the dude has his grubby little hands all over this. How important is another bout if he already won the first one?

/Just askin questions

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 20, 2012 06:40 PM (tKFT6)

99 Herb Alpert's best tune, with bonus pics of baby animals: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IvKTspkhnw

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at June 20, 2012 06:40 PM (a5ljo)

100 And Herb Alpert's most famous song
you'll recognize it instantly
http://tinyurl.com/koo3x6

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 06:41 PM (LK3ef)

101 It's a public school, and supposedly from one of the best public school districts in the country (Fairfax County, VA), or so they and everybody keep telling me. I've got to say, having two kids going through this system, if this is one of the top school districts in the country we're boned (you would not believe what they had my other son doing - 'tableaux learning' - if you know what that is you know the nightmare). And no you can't select a book that's not on the list. When they get back from summer they have exercises lined up based on which book you picked. So you're locked into their list.

Posted by: Cowboy at June 20, 2012 06:41 PM (CqxTO)

102

It may have been this one Secondus.  Sam Vasquez in Houston. http://tinyurl.com/2flrtsq

Posted by: buzzion at June 20, 2012 06:41 PM (GULKT)

103 you call him Dingy Harry , I call him Geary Reid.

Posted by: Avi at June 20, 2012 06:42 PM (51xVX)

104 Y'all can ignore CAC's big map thread.  It was young and weak, and the life-force was not strong within it, and I killed it.

Posted by: Boomer Redneque, Threadslayer at June 20, 2012 06:42 PM (eQnzo)

105 Glenn Yarborough, anyone? Baby, the rain must fall.

Posted by: 66chevelle at June 20, 2012 06:42 PM (QjSgY)

106 there was a CAC thread?  I missed it

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 06:43 PM (LK3ef)

107 86 BTW can we arrange a blind date between the octopus and Meggie Mac? Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2012 10:33 PM (XSVkw) NSFW: http://preview.tinyurl.com/4katbu

Posted by: Uncle Ghastly's Ghastly Fan at June 20, 2012 06:43 PM (KLP9f)

108 Only about 1 out of 500 drug candidates ever make it to market, and in the meantime thousands of people die while we make sure the approved drugs won't kill a few of them.

Posted by: eman at June 20, 2012 06:44 PM (ejmiE)

109 No I did not have sexual relations with a dolphin.

Posted by: Octomom at June 20, 2012 06:45 PM (EFzYw)

110

Posted by: Cowboy at June 20, 2012 10:41 PM (CqxTO) [br[

Good luck, Cowboy.  Have the boy read "Atlas Shrugged" around 15 or so.  That way, it's like a vaccination.  He'll be immune to pleas for the common good or fairness, but the full-on infection of Objectivism won't set in.

 

/re-hashed recommendation from a writer whose column I can't remember - I think it was on NRO at some point

 

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 20, 2012 06:45 PM (ND9u8)

111 Shit, reading the comments in the Atlantic article about travel books. Looks like PA is taking a beating.

Posted by: Ben at June 20, 2012 06:46 PM (UvdzB)

112 Hmm. Anyway, it's still a rank sight less damaging than boxing. Nothing quite like getting punched in the brain for a living.

Posted by: Secundus at June 20, 2012 06:48 PM (hp71M)

113 Octopus claimed he didn't give a flying fuck.

Dolphin proved him wrong.

Posted by: Sea King at June 20, 2012 06:48 PM (ust69)

114 115, and then you have the drugs that make it, and get pulled when a couple of people have bad reactions. (I'm thinking of Vioxx, which was awesome when I broke my ankle a few years back, and got yanked like two weeks later.) I've often heard it said there's no way aspirin would be approved nowadays, and intuitively that's probably right. Maybe chemjeff or one of the other Scientific Morons can weigh in on that?

Posted by: jakeman at June 20, 2012 06:49 PM (96M6e)

115 "Diary of Anne Frank" and "1984" around when I turned 12, here. "Harrison Bergeron" maybe a little before that. Those works inoculated me against all forms of socialism.

I was still at base a liberal until I was 35, though.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at June 20, 2012 06:50 PM (QTHTd)

116 Janet Jackson + Herb Alpert
http://tinyurl.com/7r5wo78

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 06:51 PM (LK3ef)

117 119 Hmm. Anyway, it's still a rank sight less damaging than boxing. Nothing quite like getting punched in the brain for a living.

Posted by: Secundus at June 20, 2012 10:48 PM (hp71M)

 

Yeah, it definitely seems like its a lot safer than boxing, and hell even football.  Apparently a guy in South Dakota died just this May in an unsanctioned fight too.  So does happen but really really really rare.

Posted by: buzzion at June 20, 2012 06:51 PM (GULKT)

118 85 I've been to the food desert on a horse with no name

------

And the story it told of a Slurpee that flowed made me sad to think it was dead?

Posted by: Anachronda at June 20, 2012 06:51 PM (1c58W)

119 I've often heard it said there's no way aspirin would be approved nowadays, and intuitively that's probably right. Maybe chemjeff or one of the other Scientific Morons can weigh in on that?


***

When I see those ads where some dumbass with a headache asks for a painkiller and refuses aspirin saying "But I'm not having a heart attack", it makes my head hurt.

It's a good thing I have aspirin in my medicine cabinet.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 20, 2012 06:51 PM (piMMO)

120 It's a good thing I have aspirin in my medicine cabinet. Aspirin is my go-to. Tylenol makes my ears ring and that's it. And I was very bummed that Jakeman Jr. used up his entire Vicodin prescription after a recent surgery...I was hoping to have one handy for my next hangover.

Posted by: jakeman at June 20, 2012 06:54 PM (96M6e)

121 I have no idea about medical stuff.  I do chemistry not medicine.  All I know about medicinal chemistry is to stay far far away from it.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 06:55 PM (LK3ef)

122  I did some checking and apparently I've spent nearly my whole life in food deserts. I've never lived more than half an hour on foot from a supermarket but by the government definitions my income level and distance puts me at some dire disadvantage.

But these are the same people who are constantly pestering me to not use my car and instead walk to places like the grocery store.

Which is it going to be, you dolts?

Posted by: epobirs at June 20, 2012 06:55 PM (kcfmt)

123 115 Only about 1 out of 500 drug candidates ever make it to market, and in the meantime thousands of people die while we make sure the approved drugs won't kill a few of them.


But meanwhile a handful of lawyers get insanely rich, so its all good.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 20, 2012 06:55 PM (lzvtR)

124 That goddamned horse with no name song always pisses me off. After two days in the desert sun your skin began to turn red? Try two fucking MINUTES. After two days you'd be dead and the vultures would be eating the guts out of your horse with no name.

Why can't you give the stupid horse a name?

You spent NINE goddamned days riding through that desert? How did your un-named horse carry enough water and food?

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 20, 2012 06:55 PM (SJCgJ)

125 eman and Y-not would be better resources for medically-oriented stuff, IIRC they are more directly involved in that field

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 06:56 PM (LK3ef)

126 108-Ugh, FFX County. I did research on their school district budget some years ago, and discovered that they only spent about 5-8% of it on infrastructure and the "children." The rest was for.....salaries. And the administrators are making themselves some very healthy salaries. For the children, of course. I am so sorry about this mess. I like the idea of doing barky's book, and researching his claims, to see if those things actually happened or not. That might make this exercise worthwhile.

Posted by: moki at June 20, 2012 06:56 PM (dZmFh)

127 I've often heard it said there's no way aspirin would be approved nowadays, and intuitively that's probably right. Maybe chemjeff or one of the other Scientific Morons can weigh in on that?

Posted by: jakeman at June 20, 2012 10:49 PM (96M6e)

 

I don't have any insight into the arcane ways of the FDA, but aspirin is certainly the best of all over the counter drugs for fighting the after effects of the moron lifestyle.  Sure, it causes stomach bleeding and needs to be avoided if you already have digestive tract issues, but it's the only OTC painkiller that will not cause potentially serious liver damage when taken while alcohol is in the system.  Tylenol, Motrin, and Aleve (along with their generic counterparts) are huge no-nos if you've already burdened your liver with alcohol.  I'm not saying aspirin is safe, but stay away from anti-inflammatory drugs if you've been boozing.   Do not, for any reason, do that old "water or gatorade and some ibuprofen before passing out" alleged hangover preventer.

 

Be frosty - you've earned the hangover, deal with the repercussions.  It comes down to the old "buy the ticket, take the ride" saw - you've earned it, so deal with it, and don't do any more damage than has already been done.

 

/moron PSA

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 20, 2012 06:57 PM (ND9u8)

128 After two days you'd be dead and the vultures would be eating the guts out of your horse with no name.

This is good.  What's it called?

Posted by: A Vuture at June 20, 2012 06:57 PM (7ppar)

129

is excedrin aspirin?

works on my head. 

Best aspirin of all (imo) are teh St. Joseph's baby aspirin!  do they still make them I wonder?

Posted by: uncle joe at June 20, 2012 06:58 PM (nfaaW)

130

there was a CAC thread? I missed it


 

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 10:43 PM (LK3ef)

 

 

 

It was accompanied by Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass.

 

Your loss.

Posted by: ErikW at June 20, 2012 06:58 PM (yt109)

131 #131 You could call the horse Buzzard Food. That has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 06:59 PM (R5yLq)

132
Favorable poll puts outsourcing expert Romney on the ropes
           
Salon.com's Steve Kornacki and The Hill's Karen Finney dig into a new poll - and a new Romney gaffe - that demonstrates the President is still strong heading into the first day of summer.

msnbc.com





Walter Duranty, get your resume over to these guys stat....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 20, 2012 06:59 PM (kdS6q)

133 The slogan for the Holder persecution should be: Why are Holder and Obama covering up for cop-killers?

Every time they cry racism, we demand justice for slain cops.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at June 20, 2012 07:00 PM (a5ljo)

134

"but stay away from anti-inflammatory drugs if you've been boozing."

 

ok so define "if you've been boozing"  - should you not take ibuprofen if you have any alcohol in your system at all?  think  I need to schedule a few appointments tomorrow based on the answer

Posted by: uncle joe at June 20, 2012 07:00 PM (nfaaW)

135

Every time they cry racism, we demand justice for slain cops.

duh - that right there is racism, straight up!!!

Posted by: janeane garofalo at June 20, 2012 07:00 PM (nfaaW)

136 Try two fucking MINUTES. After two days you'd be dead and the vultures would be eating the guts out of your horse with no name.

I saw a sky burial in Tibet once.  Not a lot of pomp and circumstance, really.

Posted by: Cicero at June 20, 2012 07:01 PM (7ppar)

137 136-yep, and usually it's dosed for heart patients, rather than babies, because it is not safe to give infants aspirin if they have a fever-there's a chance of Reye's syndrome developing. Only baby tylenol for sick little ones. (Baby Moron PSA)

Posted by: moki at June 20, 2012 07:01 PM (dZmFh)

138 StPatrick_TN, I don't touch those other drugs. But I am a total pussy about hangover pain. So, aspirin + hair o' dog = FTW!

Posted by: jakeman at June 20, 2012 07:01 PM (96M6e)

139 #136 Excedrin is aspirin and caffeine.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 07:01 PM (R5yLq)

140 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure. SOMEbody had to say it!

Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at June 20, 2012 07:02 PM (lBpVP)

141 ""Best aspirin of all (imo) are teh St. Joseph's baby aspirin! do they still make them I wonder?""


They sure do. I just got the big bottle of 300.

Posted by: Berserker at June 20, 2012 07:02 PM (FMbng)

142 "Diary of Anne Frank" and "1984" around when I turned 12, here. "Harrison Bergeron" maybe a little before that. Those works inoculated me against all forms of socialism.

I was still at base a liberal until I was 35, though.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at June 20, 2012 10:50 PM (QTHTd)



So what made you turn away from leftism after 35?

Posted by: cm9000 at June 20, 2012 07:03 PM (lzvtR)

143 oh yeah, StPatrick is another chemistry moron
so is tmi3rd

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 07:03 PM (LK3ef)

144 #149 I would be very interested in hearing that story!

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 07:04 PM (R5yLq)

145 I agree Pacquiao was robbed, but fuck if the federal government should be involved.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 07:04 PM (ykSKg)

146 Excedrin is aspirin, acetaminophen and caffeine.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at June 20, 2012 07:05 PM (nZvGM)

147 Hey, hi, everybody. (Hey, wow, Hi, Hummingbird in the message before mine. All still great with y'all, I hope.) Bye, everybody. I'm not really here 'cause tomorrow comes early. Not as early as today. But try telling the cats that.

Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at June 20, 2012 07:05 PM (lBpVP)

148

Excedrin is aspirin and caffeine.

Thanks - I never knew that!

Posted by: janeane garofalo at June 20, 2012 07:05 PM (nfaaW)

149 #154 Everything here is wonderful. I hope everything is going well for you!

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 07:06 PM (R5yLq)

150 oops - uncle joe here

Posted by: uncle joe at June 20, 2012 07:06 PM (nfaaW)

151 I've often heard it said there's no way aspirin would be approved nowadays, and intuitively that's probably right. Maybe chemjeff or one of the other Scientific Morons can weigh in on that? Posted by: jakeman at June 20, 2012 10:49 PM (96M6e) Aspirin in a powerful blood-thinner and can cause Reye's syndrome in kids. Aspirin, btw, is Beyer's brandname for acetylsalicylic acid. Aspirin became a generic name in the U.S. during WWI because Beyer is a German company and the courst said "f**k you" to anything German. The problem with the FDA was the reforms of the late 1950's after the thalidomide flipper-baby problem. The leftists thought that the FDA needed to increase regulation to the point of insanity. Nowadays it can take billions of dollars to get drugs to the approval phase, and most don't get past that. The irony is that thalidomide was stopped by the old regulations! Leftists may whine about Viagra, but it is those money making drugs that allow the drug companies to devolope new life-saving drugs. Many companies will even make at a loss many drugs that affect only a handful of people! On a side note, "Heroin" was also a brandname trademarked by Beyer. It was the "hero drug" that would cure morphine addiction and would suppress coughing, both of which heroin does in fact do.

Posted by: The Political Hat (A Mad Scientist) at June 20, 2012 07:06 PM (KLP9f)

152 The whole problem began when they started regulating dwarf tossing.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 20, 2012 07:07 PM (Q7Kbs)

153 Thanks, chemjeff. I knew there were a few...I just clung to the "chem" in your name in idle hope of some scientific background to supplement my English major ignorance.

Posted by: jakeman at June 20, 2012 07:07 PM (96M6e)

154 'Night, all. Happy Solstice!

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 20, 2012 07:07 PM (SJCgJ)

155 Normal people are unhappy with sports outcomes all the time. Takes a couple of pols to think it needs a law to fix it.

>> Professional boxing remains the only major sport in the United States that does not have a strong, centralized association, league or other regulatory body to establish and enforce uniform rules and practices.

So?

Isn't this the converse of the slippery slope fallacy, and thus logically suspect on its face?

It seems akin to saying, "Well, we passed gay marriage. Now we just have to allow polygamy." Or "we've limited a corporation's free speech. It only makes sense we do the same thing to individuals."

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at June 20, 2012 07:07 PM (KDWMI)

156 I'd imagine the attorney general might be needing some aspirin tonight

Posted by: uncle joe at June 20, 2012 07:08 PM (nfaaW)

157 jakeman, you're an English major?
will you write my papers for me?

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 07:08 PM (LK3ef)

158 Acetaminophen (Tylanol) is nasty stuff. Too much of it and it will destroy your liver. Take it and alcohol and you will suffer liver failure sooner rather then later. Seriously, if you drink like a true 'ron, then avoid Tylenol like the plague.

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 20, 2012 07:09 PM (KLP9f)

159 163 I'd imagine the attorney general might be needing some aspirin tonight --- The AG had done to him what I had done on Monday. Without anesthetic.

Posted by: Y-not at June 20, 2012 07:09 PM (5H6zj)

160 Best aspirin of all (imo) are teh St. Joseph's baby aspirin! do they still make them I wonder?


****

Yep, but you can just buy the adult 82mg version and not have to pretend you have a baby at home.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 20, 2012 07:09 PM (piMMO)

161 If you want quality aspirin, buy Bayer.  They were pretty good at Zyklon B and heroin back in the day, too.

Posted by: Cicero at June 20, 2012 07:09 PM (7ppar)

162 When I see those ads where some dumbass with a headache asks for a painkiller and refuses aspirin saying "But I'm not having a heart attack", it makes my head hurt.

It's a good thing I have aspirin in my medicine cabinet.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 20, 2012 10:51 PM (piMMO)

 

Whoever wrote that commercial should be whipped with a razor blade.  Makes the guy look like a racist-mysoginist.

Posted by: joanne is happy dammit at June 20, 2012 07:10 PM (GCsZz)

163 My tickets for Philadelphia Folk Festival came today. Mary Chapin Carpenter! Lucinda Williams! Wanda Jackson! Lori McKenna! Red Clay Ramblers! Holmes Brothers! Woo! and Hoo! and WooHoo!

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at June 20, 2012 07:10 PM (a5ljo)

164 If you stay in the U.S. for more than two weeks, it is very likely that at some point you will have sex with a woman named Sandra Fluke. When you do, it is considered extremely rude to not pay for her birth control. Also, it is generally considered inappropriate to refer to her as a "slut", unless you are slapping her ass while you do so.

Posted by: Jefferson's Tips for Touring the Former North American Colonies, 3rd. ed. at June 20, 2012 07:10 PM (2jQGY)

165 Speaking of Herb Alpert, it took me years to find out what "Rise" was.  Heard it all the time on the radio as a kid.

Soul Asylum's Clam Dip and Other Delights EP has a funny parody cover of Alpert's album.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 07:10 PM (ykSKg)

166 Long, long time ago. I've been a freelance copywriter/editor since '99, so I'm only qualified to write your advertising and marketing copy at this point.

Posted by: jakeman at June 20, 2012 07:11 PM (96M6e)

167 Posted by: Jefferson's Tips for Touring the Former North American Colonies, 3rd. ed. at June 20, 2012 11:10 PM (2jQGY)

lol that is too fuckin' funny

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 07:11 PM (LK3ef)

168 Bayer also kept its labor costs down in the 30s and 40s by using slaves.

Posted by: Cicero at June 20, 2012 07:11 PM (7ppar)

169 Herb Alpert is very good.

Wont get fooled again is overplayed trash.

Posted by: Deathknyte at June 20, 2012 07:12 PM (1z3p7)

170 Romney's sons are going to coming up soon on Conan.

Posted by: buzzion at June 20, 2012 07:12 PM (GULKT)

171 20 percent??!! Yer smokin' dope. I don't tip 20% except for unbelievable service. 10% for meh, 15% for good.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 20, 2012 07:12 PM (+XVQe)

172 171, brilliant!

Posted by: jakeman at June 20, 2012 07:12 PM (96M6e)

173 Forget all the Grammys. Singer Adele has the power to heal. Doctors say the singing sensation helped wake a 7-year-old British girl from a coma after one of her hit songs came on in the young fanÂ’s hospital room.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at June 20, 2012 07:13 PM (e8kgV)

174 A certain police chief was fired - some of you may care.

Posted by: Gerry at June 20, 2012 07:15 PM (nHppQ)

175 If you stay in the U.S. for more than two weeks, it is very likely that at some point you will have sex with a woman named Sandra Fluke.

the funny part is, that statement works for either gender

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 07:16 PM (LK3ef)

176 This place only became a food desert a few weeks ago when the Obama-economy put the nearest store out of business. 

Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at June 20, 2012 07:16 PM (dBvlk)

177 178 20 percent??!! Yer smokin' dope. I don't tip 20% except for unbelievable service. 10% for meh, 15% for good. Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 20, 2012 11:12 PM (+XVQe) Always tip the bartender 20% (especially if she shows off her cleavage). Also tip 20% if you are a regular at an establishment.

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 20, 2012 07:16 PM (KLP9f)

178 171  I can hear that being said in the 'why you should not get cable' voice...

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2012 07:17 PM (XSVkw)

179 181 A certain police chief was fired - some of you may care.

Posted by: Gerry at June 20, 2012 11:15 PM (nHppQ)



Unless its Holder, I don't.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 20, 2012 07:17 PM (lzvtR)

180 yeah I generally tip 20% nowadays, when I can that is

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 07:18 PM (LK3ef)

181 I work in a hospital and the drug shortage can not be emphasized enough.  Come into our ER actively seizing and we have no injectable benzoes to stop it.  Over half of our injectable narcotics are gone, so you better hope that you aren't allergic to what we have left, because there isn't much variety.

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 20, 2012 07:18 PM (lxc0s)

182 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at June 20, 2012 07:18 PM (Xb3hu)

183 165 Acetaminophen (Tylanol) is nasty stuff. Too much of it and it will destroy your liver. Take it and alcohol and you will suffer liver failure sooner rather then later.

Seriously, if you drink like a true 'ron, then avoid Tylenol like the plague.

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 20, 2012 11:09 PM (KLP9f)

--Amen.  Once I found out about it a couple years ago, I avoided acetaminophen like the plague.  Just aspirin and ibuprofen for me, thank you --my liver's more valuable and vulnerable than my stomach.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 07:18 PM (ykSKg)

184 "A certain police chief was fired - some of you may care."

would George Zimmerman care?

Posted by: uncle joe at June 20, 2012 07:20 PM (nfaaW)

185

A question for the medical 'rons and ettes:

 

So I'm finally looking at knee surgery to correct a torn meniscus and lateral subluxation of the patella.

 

How bad is going to suck?

Posted by: ErikW at June 20, 2012 07:20 PM (yt109)

186 my liver's more valuable and vulnerable than my stomach This year's honor for Most Valuable Moron Organ, our winner 8 years in a row, goes to....The Liver!

Posted by: jakeman at June 20, 2012 07:21 PM (96M6e)

187 Oh my - Yahoo Canada runs a story saying a US govt fracking study says the concern about earthquakes is unfounded.  The US media is strangely silent.

http://tinyurl.com/6rp7srm

The science is settled.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 20, 2012 07:21 PM (idYRZ)

188 holy shit, there is this huge line of storms moving in to my city
ugh, hope the power doesn't go out

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 07:21 PM (LK3ef)

189 178 20 percent??!!

Yer smokin' dope. I don't tip 20% except for unbelievable service. 10% for meh, 15% for good.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 20, 2012 11:12 PM (+XVQe)


--Yeah, that struck me too.  15% is just doing your job.  20% is for prompt refills of my cokes.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 07:22 PM (ykSKg)

190 So I'm finally looking at knee surgery to correct a torn meniscus and lateral subluxation of the patella.

How bad is going to suck?

Posted by: ErikW at June 20, 2012 11:20 PM (yt109)



Most people with just meniscal surgery are back in action pretty quickly, but I think the surgery for the patella may slow you down for a bit. 

Posted by: someone at June 20, 2012 07:23 PM (bqjJT)

191 How bad is going to suck?

Posted by: ErikW at June 20, 2012 11:20 PM (yt109)



Real bad, but you'll get through it. Maybe.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 20, 2012 07:23 PM (lzvtR)

192 "According to USDA guidelines, neighborhoods more than a mile from a grocery store (and meeting certain below-average-income requirements) qualify as food deserts." Please tell me they aren't planning on using gubmint subsidies to have grocery stores built in areas where they can't make a profit. And according to that definition of a food desert, large areas of rural and semi-rural America are food deserts. And in the city areas the people have access to buses and subways. The whole thing is a faux issue cooked up by do gooders like Michelle Obama, who don't want to admit that the main reason poor people spend their food stamps on candy, chips, and soda is because they WANT to eat that crap. If Michelle has a problem with how poor people are eating, she needs to tell them to grow up and act like adults.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2012 07:24 PM (4XsMQ)

193 Bayer also kept its labor costs down in the 30s and 40s by using slaves. Posted by: Cicero at June 20, 2012 11:11 PM (7ppar) ------------------------------------------------------ My Father in Law was one of them. He also did some work for BMW and Volkswagon.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 20, 2012 07:24 PM (jucos)

194 this clearly calls for another beer

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 07:24 PM (LK3ef)

195

Yeah, that struck me too. 15% is just doing your job. 20% is for prompt refills of my cokes.

 

Refills?  How many ounces?

Posted by: Mayor Bloomberg at June 20, 2012 07:25 PM (nfaaW)

196

"it"

 

I think dementia is setting in.

Posted by: ErikW at June 20, 2012 07:25 PM (yt109)

197 At some point you gotta forget about percentages.  For a light lunch if the total is around $5 are you actually going to leave a less than one dollar tip?

Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at June 20, 2012 07:25 PM (dBvlk)

198 201 this clearly calls for another beer

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 11:24 PM (LK3ef)


--Hello, it looks like some vodka and root beer is coming my way again.

Posted by: logprof's liver at June 20, 2012 07:26 PM (ykSKg)

199 How bad is going to suck?

Knee surgeries seem to be like Lays potato chips...you can never have just one.

Get someone good, not some hack carpenter who wouldn't know the difference between slicing through a nerve and slicing pastrami.  The hacks who flail their way through flesh can leave you with odd nerve damage that'll cause uncontrolled sweating, incessant itching, etc.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 20, 2012 07:26 PM (idYRZ)

200

The whole thing is a faux issue cooked up by do gooders like Michelle Obama, who don't want to admit that the main reason poor people spend their food stamps on candy, chips, and soda is because they WANT to eat that crap. If Michelle has a problem with how poor people are eating, she needs to tell them to grow up and act like adults

 

Also the fact that they can use their food stamps on candy, chips, soda, manicures, pedicures, Foxwoods, liquor and convenience stores ... oh and yes to get "their" cash as well.

 

The only thing I would change is the candy, chips and soda, of course.

Posted by: Mayor Bloomberg at June 20, 2012 07:27 PM (nfaaW)

201 Several kinds of patellar realignment - one is more intense than the other.

http://tinyurl.com/7l98uhz

Posted by: someone at June 20, 2012 07:28 PM (bqjJT)

202 Refills? How many ounces?

Posted by: Mayor Bloomberg at June 20, 2012 11:25 PM (nfaaW)


--Fuck you, Mikey.


You shitheads clamor about how we can't curb abortions through the law, yet want to bully us about our choice of drink.  STFU.


(Yeah, I know it's a sock.)

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 07:28 PM (ykSKg)

203

Most people with just meniscal surgery are back in action pretty quickly, but I think the surgery for the patella may slow you down for a bit.


 

Posted by: someone at June 20, 2012 11:23 PM (bqjJT)

 

 

Yeah, that's what I've heard from my doctors. Damn. There goes summer.

Posted by: ErikW at June 20, 2012 07:29 PM (yt109)

204 204 At some point you gotta forget about percentages. For a light lunch if the total is around $5 are you actually going to leave a less than one dollar tip?

Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at June 20, 2012 11:25 PM (dBvlk)


--True enough, but at that level I'm just going with fast food anyway.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 07:29 PM (ykSKg)

205

curb abortions through the law?  that's curbing HEALTHCARE dude.  No can do.

About that soda and snickers bar though ....  Remember you are just too stupid to undertand what we want you to understand.

 

Posted by: Mayor Bloomberg at June 20, 2012 07:30 PM (nfaaW)

206 "The combination of shoot-from-the-hip mentality with laissez-faire capitalism and religious fervor can make the U.S. maddening at times, even to its own residents." So what? I took a three week tour of Europe. If you think they have bad attitudes about Americans, you should hear what they have to say about each other. The Irish don't like the British, the British don't like the Germans, the French don't like anyone, and no one likes the French.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2012 07:31 PM (4XsMQ)

207 yes of course.
because banning abortion would just mean unsafe back alley coathanger abortions.
but banning big gulp sodas would mean... everyone only drank 12 oz. at a time?  of course!
brilliant!

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 07:31 PM (LK3ef)

208 If McCain wants to address inconsistent officiating of a sport he should check out the NBA.  Just sayin'.

Posted by: NC Ref at June 20, 2012 07:31 PM (/izg2)

209 If the waitress had to make a trip out to the table to take the order, then bring tea, then food, then refills, and finally clean the table, then I'm going to tip at least a couple of bucks no matter what the percentage works out to be.

Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at June 20, 2012 07:32 PM (dBvlk)

210 215 If McCain wants to address inconsistent officiating of a sport he should check out the NBA. Just sayin'.

Posted by: NC Ref at June 20, 2012 11:31 PM (/izg2)


h8ters gonna h8

Posted by: Lebron James at June 20, 2012 07:32 PM (ykSKg)

211 213 "The combination of shoot-from-the-hip mentality with laissez-faire capitalism and religious fervor can make the U.S. maddening at times, even to its own residents."

So what? I took a three week tour of Europe. If you think they have bad attitudes about Americans, you should hear what they have to say about each other. The Irish don't like the British, the British don't like the Germans, the French don't like anyone, and no one likes the French.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2012 11:31 PM (4XsMQ)


--It's kinda funny how it's only in America that internal politics are noteworthy, yet in the rest of the world the locals will happily offer their opinions of America, whilst offering few takes on their own politics.  I remember being in India in 2001 and seeing parodies of the Florida recount fiasco on TV (e.g., workers trying to divine dimpled/hanging/pregnant chads), yet heard almost zilch about their own government in the three weeks I was there.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 07:36 PM (ykSKg)

212

The hacks who flail their way through flesh can leave you with odd nerve damage that'll cause uncontrolled sweating, incessant itching, etc.


 

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 20, 2012 11:26 PM (idYRZ)

 

Yeah, good looking out. I'll make a recommendation for Doc Carlucci if you get hives or some shit.

Posted by: ErikW at June 20, 2012 07:37 PM (yt109)

213 That's not true, I like the French. I like their wine, women and cheese, and also the greatness that is "Kaamellot", a French television show based on the travails of a hapless King Arthur. It's the best thing since Monty Python and the Holy Grail. If you get a chance to watch any of it with English subtitles, take it!

Posted by: Cowboy at June 20, 2012 07:37 PM (CqxTO)

214 If McCain wants to address inconsistent officiating of a sport he should check out the NBA. Just sayin'.

Posted by: NC Ref at June 20, 2012 11:31 PM (/izg2)



Right Bro, when I felt that wind brush my arm on that uncontested lay-up that was called an and-one, after making the free-throw I was thinking where was the technical?

Posted by: LeBron at June 20, 2012 07:39 PM (lzvtR)

215 I don't like taking aspirin for a hangover because it upsets my stomach and my stomach is already pretty upset when i'm paying for the night before, and baby aspirin is too weak. So, my hangover remedy is always a multivitamin to replace all the nutrients i pissed out the night before and a big glass of iced tea for a little hydration and caffeine boost, works like a charm, by then it's usually noon so it's off to McD's for some grub.

Posted by: booger at June 20, 2012 07:40 PM (HI6wa)

216 in other news, I may (or may not; I work in The Stoopid Business™, after all) be in the Bennington, Vermont area in July. Any morons in the area?

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 20, 2012 07:42 PM (JMmQ9)

217 skewering your own eyeball with one's own mustashe (with wax in it) doesn't feel good

Posted by: The Dude at June 20, 2012 07:42 PM (tw6Ar)

218 skewering your own eyeball with one's own mustashe (with wax in it) doesn't feel good



Word.

Posted by: Rollie Fingers at June 20, 2012 07:43 PM (/izg2)

219 222 I don't like taking aspirin for a hangover because it upsets my stomach and my stomach is already pretty upset when i'm paying for the night before, and baby aspirin is too weak. So, my hangover remedy is always a multivitamin to replace all the nutrients i pissed out the night before and a big glass of iced tea for a little hydration and caffeine boost, works like a charm, by then it's usually noon so it's off to McD's for some grub.

Posted by: booger at June 20, 2012 11:40 PM (HI6wa)


--Really, the only vitamins you need are a B-Complex one.  Especially if beer is the (primary) hangover source.  I attack on all fronts --the night of-- with B vitamins, aspirin and lots of water.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 07:44 PM (ykSKg)

220 Dude, oh man that sucks
sorry to hear that

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 07:44 PM (LK3ef)

221 Ooof - hard landing bends an ANA 767 a bit ...

http://avherald.com/h?article=45173104&opt=0

(different video showing earlier bit of the landing linked in my sig too)

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 20, 2012 07:44 PM (BJ51P)

222 Sig linky fail fixed.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 20, 2012 07:45 PM (BJ51P)

223 Don't mess with my daddy or me. Lots of guys say "if you think Meghan's a great wrestler, you should see her box"

Posted by: Meghan McCain at June 20, 2012 07:45 PM (Y+DPZ)

224 188, DR, I had read it was bad, but that bad? Holy shit.

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 07:46 PM (qqlqB)

225 --Really, the only vitamins you need are a B-Complex one. Especially if beer is the (primary) hangover source. I just get the multis because i'm a cheap bastard, they cost the same as a bottle of just B and i feel better getting more crap for the same price

Posted by: booger at June 20, 2012 07:49 PM (HI6wa)

226 Good news on the college sports front!

Make it so.  Faster, please.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/brett-mcmurphy/19392518

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 07:49 PM (ykSKg)

227 Favorable poll puts outsourcing expert Romney on the ropes

Salon.com's Steve Kornacki and The Hill's Karen Finney dig into a new poll - and a new Romney gaffe - that demonstrates the President is still strong heading into the first day of summer.

msnbc.com

Walter Duranty, get your resume over to these guys stat....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 20, 2012 10:59 PM

fap fap fappa fap fap fap fap

Posted by: Greg, who only shows up when he likes a poll at June 20, 2012 07:49 PM (Y+DPZ)

228 If you are going to drink, its best to coat your stomach. A glass of milk is good; a tablespoon of oil is better.

Posted by: The Polticial Hat at June 20, 2012 07:50 PM (KLP9f)

229

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 11:44 PM (LK3ef)


it's what i get for putting a shit ton of wax in and forming it straight up, it's about on level with my eyebrows

Posted by: The Dude at June 20, 2012 07:51 PM (tw6Ar)

230 ... that demonstrates the President is still doin' just fine strong heading into the first day of summer... FIFY

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 20, 2012 07:53 PM (JMmQ9)

231 Fucktard O'Reilly and the ToeSucker  agreed sagely with each other that a contempt of Congress citation was a dead end, had no teeth, etc.

EVERY TIME he opines on legal matters O'Reilly demonstrates that he knows shit , that he grew up eating Irish seven-course meals, namely a boiled potato and a six pack.

He should look up "Rita Lavelle".


Posted by: Jim Sonweed at June 20, 2012 07:53 PM (HzO4m)

232 Got to see the TJ Brass live at the Wisconsin state fair like '68 or so , fantastic show

Posted by: Mbruce at June 20, 2012 07:53 PM (Fr8N6)

233 "Fuck you, Mikey. You shitheads clamor about how we can't curb abortions through the law, yet want to bully us about our choice of drink. STFU. (Yeah, I know it's a sock.) Posted by: logprof" Good one. People need to walk up to Nanny Bloomberg and ask him why he isn't "Pro Choice" about what they're allowed to eat. "My coca cola, my body, my choice!"

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2012 07:53 PM (4XsMQ)

234 232 --Really, the only vitamins you need are a B-Complex one. Especially if beer is the (primary) hangover source.

I just get the multis because i'm a cheap bastard, they cost the same as a bottle of just B and i feel better getting more crap for the same price

Posted by: booger at June 20, 2012 11:49 PM (HI6wa)


--I agree with that strategy; I just take my usual multi in the morning, then beef up with B at night and again in the morning if I'm going hard.  I had lots of B on hand that the wifey ditched when she was pregnant.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 07:55 PM (ykSKg)

235 Good one. People need to walk up to Nanny Bloomberg and ask him why he isn't "Pro Choice" about what they're allowed to eat. "My coca cola, my body, my choice!" Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2012 11:53 PM (4XsMQ) NO BIG GULP! NO PEACE! NO BIG GULP! NO PEACE! NO BIG GULP! NO PEACE!

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 20, 2012 07:56 PM (KLP9f)

236 #238 I was just wondering if this was the first time an Attorney General was cited for contempt of Congress. Has it every happened before? It sure sounds like a big deal.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 07:56 PM (R5yLq)

237 I suspect that John Mitchell either was, or was close to being, found in comtempt of Congress.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 20, 2012 07:58 PM (3HHiH)

238 Okay, Cowboy, I have to admit, some of the best food I had was in France, and I didn't eat at expensive restaurants.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2012 08:00 PM (4XsMQ)

239 hmm TRu has a Skylander figure my friend's daughter wants in stock

Posted by: The Dude at June 20, 2012 08:00 PM (tw6Ar)

240 OK, I'm out tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 20, 2012 08:02 PM (JMmQ9)

241 Close-ups of Juliette Moore's vagina were used as the  the Eye of Sauron in LOTR.

Dozens of CGI artists, many from "Jaws", were hired to remove the several layers of teeth in the raw images.

Posted by: Jim Sonweed at June 20, 2012 08:03 PM (HzO4m)

242 243, 244, looks like its damn rare, in any case. And no, I can cite no precedent. Arb, I suspect Mitchell was working out his deal, first.

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 08:03 PM (qqlqB)

243 Boxing actually became deadlier as a result of requiring those padded gloves. Before the gloves, body blows were the way to go because they did less damage to your fists. But the gloves protect your fists, and make head blows a more effective option. This results in more concussions and more brain damage.

By the way, this is Genetic Tunder, using another name I was considering switching to once registration goes live here.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 08:05 PM (3yCFy)

244 (Yeah, I know it's a cock.)

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 11:28 PM (ykSKg)



tell me about your childhood...

Posted by: Siggy Freud, M.D. at June 20, 2012 08:05 PM (Dll6b)

245 245 Okay, Cowboy,
I have to admit, some of the best food I had was in France, and I didn't eat at expensive restaurants.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 21, 2012 12:00 AM (4XsMQ)


--I hate onions, and yet I was so cold on New Year's while in Paris my first time there I had French onion soup in desperate need to warm up.  Was delicious --smothering the onions with cheese helped, to be sure.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 08:06 PM (ykSKg)

246 250, GT, does that mean you are a 'rare bird'?

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 08:07 PM (qqlqB)

247

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 21, 2012 12:05 AM (3yCFy)


just need to switch to MMA style gloves. Mostly saves ya from broken hands but you still feel it

Posted by: The Dude at June 20, 2012 08:08 PM (tw6Ar)

248 As far as vitamins go, I use Amway's NutriLife Double X. Three pills, twice a day. It's vastly superior to anything you can buy at a supermarket. I get them delivered to my door every month.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 08:08 PM (3yCFy)

249 watch out for the tongue at the cafeteria at the Cite Universitaire de Paris


cooked tongue, not,,,,,,the other kind of tongue.  Tastes bad; very bad

Posted by: Zombie Marcel Marceau at June 20, 2012 08:08 PM (Dll6b)

250 250 Boxing actually became deadlier as a result of requiring those padded gloves. Before the gloves, body blows were the way to go because they did less damage to your fists. But the gloves protect your fists, and make head blows a more effective option. This results in more concussions and more brain damage.

By the way, this is Genetic Tunder, using another name I was considering switching to once registration goes live here.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 21, 2012 12:05 AM (3yCFy)


--I have heard often the past year how the lack of any headgear makes Aussie football safer than American football for similar reasons (at least as far as concussions go).  I don't know of any hard studies on it, but it's certainly not out of the question.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 08:09 PM (ykSKg)

251 #253: You could say that. What I like about this name is that a prothonotary warbler told Congressman Richard Nixon that Alger Hiss was a lying commie traitor.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 08:09 PM (3yCFy)

252 wtf Riot, fix your shit

Posted by: The Dude at June 20, 2012 08:10 PM (tw6Ar)

253 By the way, this is Genetic Tunder, using another name I was considering switching to once registration goes live here.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 21, 2012 12:05 AM (3yCFy)



I think you should work on getting your identity issues resolved.

Posted by: Sybil at June 20, 2012 08:10 PM (lzvtR)

254 258, ah yes. Shame that man is not a hero in our country. The songster, not the dead red.

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 08:11 PM (qqlqB)

255 #249 I'm confused. I thought Executive Privilege only applied to the White House. If Obama wasn't involved then they can't claim Executive Privilege. If they do doesn't that prove that Obama was involved and that Eric Holder lied to Congress?

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 08:12 PM (R5yLq)

256 Wait. Boxing isn't pure as the driven snow? I had a hunch that there hasn't been a legitimate fight since before Spartacus, but Dingy Harry and Juan Call Me Johnny McCain haven't figured it out? Why am I hearing the theme from 'The Sting' in my head? Just wondering...

Posted by: Mike at June 20, 2012 08:13 PM (pB2xP)

257 Logprof yeah American football helmets can encourage players who aren't properly coached to use their helmets as a weapon.  Although getting hit with a helmet directly on an un-padded part of the body does hurt like hell and can cause serious injury, generally the greater (and sometimes paralyzing) injury is earned by the player that drops his head and drives the top of his helmet into the opposing player.

Posted by: NC Ref at June 20, 2012 08:15 PM (/izg2)

258 "McCain co-introduced the legislation Monday with..."

Son of a fucking bitch, aren't there more IMPORTANT things to do than fret over sports???

Thanks Arizona, for sending this asshole back to Washington. Thank you VERY much.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at June 20, 2012 08:15 PM (4s7w4)

259 he left his squadron in a combat deployment and refused to call BHO a super stupid mudda fukker





Posted by: jake at June 20, 2012 10:09 PM (RQjPS)



To be fair, he left his squadron on a combat deployment after they had been in the Forrestal fire (VA-81) and was going home to join a squadron on a combat deployment (VA-64)...and then he got shot down.


But as to the rest of it...yeah...



Evening from too-late-to-be-sunny Florida roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at June 20, 2012 08:16 PM (PUAeD)

260 #266 {{{{GGE}}}}

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 08:17 PM (R5yLq)

261 #262 Hummingbird - yes, that's the problem. Either the EP is complete BS, or Obama was part of Fast and Furious. We win!

Posted by: Mike at June 20, 2012 08:18 PM (pB2xP)

262 262, Hummerbird, all of that. Lies out the wazoo. Low-information voters, etc. They used the 'weaker' form of priviledge, so the next few days should be interesting.

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 08:18 PM (qqlqB)

263 Evening from too-late-to-be-sunny Florida roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at June 21, 2012 12:16 AM (PUAeD)


--What brings you to FL?

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 08:19 PM (ykSKg)

264 Posted by: NC Ref at June 21, 2012 12:15 AM (/izg2) ---------------------------------------------------------- You want to see a return to proper tackling techniques again just make them wear the leather helmets sans face masks again.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 20, 2012 08:19 PM (jucos)

265 Son of a fucking bitch, aren't there more IMPORTANT things to do than fret over sports???

It's infuriating. These shitbirds can't even fulfill the most basic duties of their position, like, oh, I dunno, maybe passing a goddamn budget, yet presume to preen about legislation for idiotic peripheral shit like whether someone got jobbed in a bout of fisticuffs, or whether a pitcher used steroids.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 20, 2012 08:21 PM (BJ51P)

266 268, Mike, they are trying to spin the messaging in a couple of ways, Bush knew. LIE. Barky knew. Well, actually pretty damn likely. They are waiting to see how the voting public sees it. 'when they cry racism, we call for justice for dead LEO's.' That should be a refrain.

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 08:21 PM (qqlqB)

267 #261: Here's what I mean... Whittaker Chambers came forward and said he was an ex-Soviet spy, and the he'd worked with Alger Hiss, assistant to the Assistant Secretary of State. Hiss denied the charges, claiming he'd never met Chambers in his life.

Nixon was the chairman of the House Unamerican Activities Committee at the time. He knew one of the two men was lying, but wasn't sure which one. So, he asked Chambers to tell him something about Hiss that wasn't common knowledge. Chambers thought for a moment, and told Nixon that Hiss was an avid bird-watcher who'd talk your ear off about the time he saw a prothonotary warbler.

Next time Nixon saw Hiss, he said, "Hey, Alger, I hear you're a pretty avid bird-watcher." Hiss responded with, basically, "Oh, dude! This one time, I saw a prothonotary warbler. It was so awesome! Let me tell you all about it..."

Nixon now knew who was telling the truth and who was lying.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 08:22 PM (3yCFy)

268 You want to see a return to proper tackling techniques again just make them wear the leather helmets sans face masks again.



Yes!  +1000!!!

Posted by: NC Ref at June 20, 2012 08:23 PM (/izg2)

269 #265 I held my nose and voted for McCain on multiple occasions. From now on I will actively campaign for his primary opponents, and if defeated will actively campaign for his DemocRATic opponent. The man is a cancer on this great state and great nation. May I be but one beam in the irradiation of the McCain tumor.

Posted by: Mike at June 20, 2012 08:23 PM (pB2xP)

270 #269 I don't understand how they can claim all of those documents are privileged without admitting that Obama was involved with all of them. If Obama was involved will all of them then Eric Holder had to be lying to Congress when he said the White House wasnÂ’t involved.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 08:24 PM (R5yLq)

271 264 Logprof yeah American football helmets can encourage players who aren't properly coached to use their helmets as a weapon. Although getting hit with a helmet directly on an un-padded part of the body does hurt like hell and can cause serious injury, generally the greater (and sometimes paralyzing) injury is earned by the player that drops his head and drives the top of his helmet into the opposing player.

Posted by: NC Ref at June 21, 2012 12:15 AM (/izg2)


--Sounds right.  I recall several injuries the past few seasons being worse for the tackler than the tacklee.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 08:24 PM (ykSKg)

272 I'm trying to figure out the whole executive privilege thing.  It looks complicated to me but It seems like there are several types of privilege.  And it may not necessarily implicate Obama.

http://tinyurl.com/87fyffy

But  (from part 2) ... Further, "the privilege disappears ... when there is any reason to believe government misconduct occurred."

So it still seems a sham.

Posted by: someone at June 20, 2012 08:25 PM (bqjJT)

273 Whoa, even squishy Michael Medved is talking about Fast and Furious now.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 08:28 PM (3yCFy)

274 Truck Monkey whenever we see a player (usually a rookie) drop their head we will stop practice and bring everybody in and address the issue in front of the entire team.  Over and over again.  HEAD UP!!!  Never EVER drop your head before contact.

That drum cannot be beaten enough to make sure players protect themselves by using the proper form.  Football is violent and dangerous enough without guys being stupid or overly aggressive and hurting themselves.

Posted by: NC Ref at June 20, 2012 08:29 PM (/izg2)

275 274, got it. Had it. Read Witness. Great man, truly.

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 08:31 PM (qqlqB)

276 274, no snark. I agree with every part of your statement. Some folks here may not know.

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 08:32 PM (qqlqB)

277 Barky knew. Well, actually pretty damn likely. When did he tell Sarah Brady they were working on gun control under the radar?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 20, 2012 08:32 PM (DGOqy)

278 Posted by: NC Ref at June 21, 2012 12:29 AM (/izg2) -------------------------------------------------------- I coached youth football for the last 10 years. The fastest way to get seated on the end of the bench was to drop your head to make that highlight film tackle. We coached the kids up on proper form from day 1. Huge pet peave of mine.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 20, 2012 08:32 PM (jucos)

279 #282: Yes, he was! Well deserving of the Presidential Medal of Freedom he was posthumously awarded by President Reagan.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 08:34 PM (3yCFy)

280 199 "According to USDA guidelines, neighborhoods more than a mile from a grocery store (and meeting certain below-average-income requirements) qualify as food deserts."

Please tell me they aren't planning on using gubmint subsidies to have grocery stores built in areas where they can't make a profit.

And according to that definition of a food desert, large areas of rural and semi-rural America are food deserts. And in the city areas the people have access to buses and subways.

The whole thing is a faux issue cooked up by do gooders like Michelle Obama, who don't want to admit that the main reason poor people spend their food stamps on candy, chips, and soda is because they WANT to eat that crap. If Michelle has a problem with how poor people are eating, she needs to tell them to grow up and act like adults.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 20, 2012 11:24 PM (4XsMQ)


Cities are already doing this. I know a guy who owns a neighborhood grocery store and he got some money from the city to open up a grocery store in a so called food desert. Waste of money. The only reason he did it was to get merchandise for his other store at a cheaper price.

Posted by: MrCaniac at June 20, 2012 08:34 PM (1grxW)

281 284, BBD, wasn't that about nine months in? Yeah, they had a plan. Barbed cock of Satan is too good.

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 08:35 PM (qqlqB)

282 Well, Obobo did one good thing: saved us from McCain...

Posted by: Running Hobo at June 20, 2012 08:36 PM (l1oyw)

283 286, I wish it had come from the hand of Nixon, while he was living. Twould have closed that particular circle.

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 08:36 PM (qqlqB)

284 Truck Monkey it goes far beyond pet peeve for us.  And I'm pretty sure you under-stated its effect on you, it scares the hell outta me every time I see it happen, even when I'm watching D1 college or pro games.  Two games I played in, one HS and one college, had guys carried off on backboards.  Both were OK but...damn.  Very scary stuff.  You coach Pop Warner?  In what state?

Posted by: NC Ref at June 20, 2012 08:37 PM (/izg2)

285 That would've been fitting!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 08:37 PM (3yCFy)

286 Ok hannity saying preezy denied knowledge, said heard about it on tv 25 march 2011. Bet the Brady comment was before that

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 20, 2012 08:38 PM (DGOqy)

287 264 Logprof yeah American football helmets can encourage players who aren't properly coached to use their helmets as a weapon. Although getting hit with a helmet directly on an un-padded part of the body does hurt like hell and can cause serious injury, generally the greater (and sometimes paralyzing) injury is earned by the player that drops his head and drives the top of his helmet into the opposing player.

Posted by: NC Ref at June 21, 2012 12:15 AM (/izg2)


Surprisingly, there are very few concussions in rugby, and proper tackling is the reason why. They tackle with their shoulders and not their heads, but ESPN wouldn't show a hit like that.

Posted by: MrCaniac at June 20, 2012 08:39 PM (1grxW)

288 Whew! Reloads are slow on the cell card.


{{{Hummingbird}}}


logprof, I brought Youngest Son down to stay with Eldest Daughter for a month or so in J-ville and also going to Lake City for a day to load up more stuff for Pop. Leaving out Sunday heading back to NC.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at June 20, 2012 08:40 PM (PUAeD)

289 293, expect anything less. They are lying out there asses now. All we need is a staffer to start singing.

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 08:40 PM (qqlqB)

290 What, we can't meddle in professional sports and strngle the economy with global warming legislation?

You protest too much, methinks.

Posted by: Henry Waxman (D, NIMH) at June 20, 2012 08:41 PM (ykSKg)

291 Although it's also fitting that it was Reagan who awarded Chambers that medal, because Chambers was a huge influence on Reagan leaving the Democrat party to become a Republican.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 08:41 PM (3yCFy)

292 logprof, I brought Youngest Son down to stay with Eldest Daughter for a month or so in J-ville and also going to Lake City for a day to load up more stuff for Pop. Leaving out Sunday heading back to NC.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at June 21, 2012 12:40 AM (PUAeD)


--Sweet.  I can hardly believe it, but it has been almost a decade since I last darkened Florida's sunny shores.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 08:42 PM (ykSKg)

293 Hi Hummingbird!  Just noticed you were here.  How is everything?

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 08:42 PM (LK3ef)

294

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 21, 2012 12:38 AM (DGOqy)


G'evening Bebe!  How you doin'?

Posted by: NC Ref at June 20, 2012 08:43 PM (/izg2)

295 I for one, wish to see Holder perp walked across the Rotunda past SANFRAN NAN's office door and someone with an I-phone recording her bo-toxed face shattering into a million rock fragments.....would pay for that clip 

Posted by: Richard at June 20, 2012 08:44 PM (0jyYB)

296 oh man I would pay money to see Holder and Pelosi tossed into the back of a SWAT van

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 08:45 PM (LK3ef)

297 62 Got my high school sophomore's summer reading list for English lit. He's got to pick one of ten books and read it. What a sorry collection of trash they've picked for the list. There's nothingremotely resembling classic literature on the list.One of them is "Dreams From My Father" by Barack Obama. Another is "Crank", about crystal meth. Another is about life in a street gang. Three are feminist lit about struggles of 'ethnic' women. The Holocaust is the setting for at least one of them. It's a metaphor for the patriarchy. Another is about hopelessness while growing up on an Indian reservation. I don't know who's more pissed, me or my boy. He's the stooge who has to read one.

Posted by: Cowboy at June 20, 2012 10:25 PM (CqxTO)



He should ask whether he might substitute Swift's "Gulliver's Travels" instead. It's enough removed from the present day that the instructor might not notice that it's a satire about various flavors of libtards.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 20, 2012 08:46 PM (kaalw)

298 Found it! He she had a meeting with Jay Carney on 30 March 2011. According to a fox news article on 25 May 2011: During the meeting, President Obama dropped in and, according to Sarah Brady, brought up the issue of gun control, "to fill us in that it was very much on his agenda," she said. "I just want you to know that we are working on it," Brady recalled the president telling them. "We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar."

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 20, 2012 08:46 PM (DGOqy)

299 HI BEBE!

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 08:47 PM (LK3ef)

300 Cowboy@62 -- Could you list the book titles? It would be interesting to see if anyone else has a kid receiving the same books. What grade?

Posted by: Calyx the HopinToBAnswered at June 20, 2012 08:47 PM (mICe+)

301 You coach Pop Warner? In what state? Posted by: NC Ref at June 21, 2012 12:37 AM (/izg2) -------------------------------------------------------- I coach in the Mid Maryland Youth Football League.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 20, 2012 08:47 PM (jucos)

302 Surprisingly, there are very few concussions in rugby, and proper tackling is the reason why. They tackle with their shoulders and not their heads, but ESPN wouldn't show a hit like that.

Posted by: MrCaniac at June 21, 2012 12:39 AM (1grxW)


Wide World of Sports started it, then the NFL with their Greatest Hits videos and now ESPN carried on the tradition

Posted by: The Dude at June 20, 2012 08:48 PM (tw6Ar)

303 I've been doing some more reading. They actually have emails showing that the ATF was planning on using Fast and Furious to enact tougher gun control standards? They were planning on blaming the gun dealers for doing what the ATF told them?

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 08:48 PM (R5yLq)

304 310, yep.

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 08:49 PM (qqlqB)

305 G'evening Bebe! How you doin'? Posted by: NC Ref Been better. Mom's been having a lot of trouble.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 20, 2012 08:49 PM (DGOqy)

306 wish Dragon's Dogma would hit bomba price

Posted by: The Dude at June 20, 2012 08:49 PM (tw6Ar)

307

304

So.......

 

Animal Farm by G. Orwell would surely piss the commie teacher off to the point of an automatic "F" I'm thinking........

Posted by: Richard at June 20, 2012 08:50 PM (0jyYB)

308 305, awesome, Bebe. I thought it was earlier.

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 08:50 PM (qqlqB)

309 I remember lefties fantasizing about Karl Rove being "frog-marched out of the White House in handcuffs." I think we're totally justified in having a similar dream about Eric Withholder, seeing as how he's actually, you know, done something illegal, while Karl Rove is just an overrated incompetent boob of a Republican strategist who lucked his way into great success against the Democrats in the 00s.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 08:50 PM (3yCFy)

310 273 B5D - We Catholics are going to fight to the finish for our First Amendment rights. I may not condone the actions of our hierarchy over the past 30 years, but I will fight for the freedom of my children!

Posted by: Mike at June 20, 2012 08:51 PM (pB2xP)

311 Hi CJ. How you doing?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 20, 2012 08:51 PM (DGOqy)

312 304 62
Got my high school sophomore's summer reading list for English lit. He's
got to pick one of ten books and read it. What a sorry collection of
trash they've picked for the list. There's nothingremotely resembling
classic literature on the list.One of them is "Dreams From My Father" by
Barack Obama. Another is "Crank", about crystal meth. Another is about
life in a street gang. Three are feminist lit about struggles of
'ethnic' women. The Holocaust is the setting for at least one of them.
It's a metaphor for the patriarchy. Another is about hopelessness while
growing up on an Indian reservation. I don't know who's more pissed, me
or my boy. He's the stooge who has to read one.

Posted by: Cowboy at June 20, 2012 10:25 PM (CqxTO)


He should ask whether he might substitute Swift's "Gulliver's Travels" instead. It's enough removed from the present day that the instructor might not notice that it's a satire about various flavors of libtards.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 21, 2012 12:46 AM (kaalw)


--It's funny; I never had to read anything the summer before school, yet wound up pretty well-read for a public education.  In 10th grade I recall Julius Caesar and Daphne DuMaurier's Rebecca being among our class readings.  (I'm fuzzy on the rest at this drunken hour but they'll come back to me!)

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 08:51 PM (ykSKg)

313 #300 Everything is wonderful. We had a great Father's day on Sunday. Stuck's daughters were all out of town for the day so we had a surprise party for him. Sissy came down on Friday to help me prepare. She pretended to have a fight with Wolverine and Stuck never suspected a thing

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 08:51 PM (R5yLq)

314 310 So that must be the deliberative process that went into the project they'd like to keep privileged.

Posted by: someone at June 20, 2012 08:52 PM (bqjJT)

315 --Sweet. I can hardly believe it, but it has been almost a decade since I last darkened Florida's sunny shores.

Posted by: logprof at June 21, 2012 12:42 AM (ykSKg)



I left in 2000 when they closed NAS Cecil Field but Eldest Daughter stayed.


HB, yes F&F is a gun control scheme. And I wish they would stop calling it "botched" or "failed", the only thing that was botched is we weren't supposed to find out about it, otherwise it worked just like it was designed to.



Reload speeds are pissing me off, plus it was a long drive, so I'm calling it a night. Hopefully things will work better for tomorrow night's ONT.


Later roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at June 20, 2012 08:52 PM (PUAeD)

316 Cheating? In professional boxing? Surely not!!!!
The "food desert" thing is just one more way to get more federal control into areas through the back door. Its utterly absurd, people go get food when they need it. There's food everywhere, easy to get in American, unless you are camping in the middle of the Mojave desert or something.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 20, 2012 08:53 PM (r4wIV)

317 Evening, fappers! Although I guess I morning technically. I don't care, got off work early, now drinking a new creation of mine: the adult root beer float. Yum. Also, John McCain, fuck you forever. That is all.

Posted by: DC in Towson, survives entirely on hate at June 20, 2012 08:53 PM (I/cLr)

318 Good night, GGE!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 08:53 PM (3yCFy)

319 Fast & Furious was botched and failed. It was supposed to generate furor and public outrage over guns crossing the border from the US, and stage into gun control. It failed.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 20, 2012 08:54 PM (r4wIV)

320 bebe, I am drunk, mainly.
about to go to bed.
I will have to tell you about my insane family another time.
good night

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 08:54 PM (LK3ef)

321 I think it's amazingly telling that the greatest health problem facing the poor today is obesity, rather than malnourishment.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 08:55 PM (3yCFy)

322 310 Hummingbird I'm not sure what they have, beyond a couple whistle blowers that the establishment is trying to burn. It's conjecture that this was an assault on the 2nd Amendment given the surrounding circumstances

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 20, 2012 08:55 PM (DGOqy)

323 #322 Now I am very confused. Why not make that focus of the investigation? ShouldnÂ’t the Republican's be pointing this out to everyone?

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 08:56 PM (R5yLq)

324 but before I go: this link is awesome:
http://tinyurl.com/765pt95

Posted by: chemjeff at June 20, 2012 08:58 PM (LK3ef)

325 Johnson?

Posted by: mojo at June 20, 2012 09:00 PM (d/67n)

326

DANG!!!!

 

Nice to read someone who knows that the whole deal of FAST and(since I'm ferbodden to use the symbol)Furious was to manufacter CRAPPOLA to make the obummer case to further denude the 2nd amendment rights. They know now that since a Fed agent was murdered by their plan......

 

 

yep the bitches must run....they SO must run....we should all make sure they keep running.....for Terry!

Posted by: Richard at June 20, 2012 09:03 PM (0jyYB)

327 Democrats and Organized Crime go together like Democrats and Organized Crime. The Obama Administration putting guns in the hands of Narco-Gangsters should not surprise anyone.

Posted by: Occam's Mustache at June 20, 2012 09:04 PM (sYnN5)

328 317, Mike. Excellent. Gotta engage, if possible.

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 09:06 PM (qqlqB)

329 I coach in the Mid Maryland Youth Football League.



Dude!  I get up that way a few times every year.  Next time I do I'll see if we can't hook up for a Moron football meet-up.

Posted by: NC Ref at June 20, 2012 09:09 PM (/izg2)

330 Now I am very confused. Why not make that focus of the investigation?

It was probably never actually written down anywhere.  Issa is, quite reasonably, going for what he believes there will be a paper trail of documentation for. 

You can know something with absolute certainty and still not be able to prove it in a court of law.  Issa is looking to nail down damning stuff for which there's no possible alternative explanations, no matter how far fetched or unbelievable.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 20, 2012 09:10 PM (idYRZ)

331 The Obama Administration putting guns in the hands of Narco-Gangsters should not surprise anyone.

The narcos were probably surprised when the stupid gringos started selling them high quality weapons.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 20, 2012 09:12 PM (idYRZ)

332 Oh, here's another cool story that involves Reagan more directly than the Chambers-Hiss hearings. Shortly after Reagan's divorce from Jane Wyatt was finalized, he was elected President of the Screen Actor's Guild.

At this time, an actress named Nancy Davis found her name on a list of accused communists in Hollywood, and she was horrified by it. She was a registered Republican, and her parents were very conservative. She had to get something done about this false accusation.

She was also single, and looking to get married, so she decided to see if she could kill two birds with one stone by arranging a face-to-face meeting with the nice-looking, recently-divorced new SAG President himself.

That's the story of how Ronald and Nancy Reagan met.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 09:12 PM (3yCFy)

333 I'd like to ask you over nighters a question if I may?

  Something about the Officer Terry killing has bothered me, and that is that no one was apprehended for the crime, the killers got away clean. So why did they leave their weapons behind. The same scenario with the officer killed in Texas. the weapon was left behind.

  Now could it be they were in collusion with the people running fast and furious, leaving weapons that could be traced back to American weapons dealers in order to pass more restrictive laws on our guns. Now if any part of what I just said is anywhere near the truth, we need to have some one pay for the crime of murder.

Posted by: jainphx at June 20, 2012 09:12 PM (pryxt)

334

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 21, 2012 12:49 AM (DGOqy)


Damn I know that's tough for you.  Hugs and prayers for you and your Mom!

Posted by: NC Ref at June 20, 2012 09:12 PM (/izg2)

335

337

At the end of the day, with every attempt to stonewall any and all aspects of the F AND F. The truth will be so obvious to even us "Bitter Clingers".

 

Remember....Chi-Town politics...start to finish. With an Alinsky whitewash.

Posted by: Richard at June 20, 2012 09:15 PM (0jyYB)

336 Who would leave their hard gotten weapons behind, especially when they got away so clean? This bothers me, Gee I hope I'm wrong, but what other reason would they leave their weapons clean of prints behind at the scene?

Posted by: jainphx at June 20, 2012 09:16 PM (pryxt)

337 I think the most obvious answer is the right one, Jain.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 09:17 PM (3yCFy)

338 #337 The article I read first was from CBS news. They had emails from the ATF agents in charge of Fast and Furious. In the emails they discussed using the gun sales as evidence to support gun control and to blame the gun shop owners for the sales. The gun shop owners were telling the ATF something was wrong. The ATF told them to sell the guns anyway because it was part of their investigation. What confuses me is if CBS has this evidence, doesn't Congress?

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 09:19 PM (R5yLq)

339

Ok, the books listed on the Summer Reading List for Falls Church High School 2010 are below. It is obviously not 2010, but, hey, the English department put this together and jeezsh semantics!

 

Falls Church High School

ENGLISH 10

Summer Reading 2010

If you have questions or concerns, please email Ms. Emerson:

spemerson@fcps.edu.

You may purchase your own copy of the book, or you may check it out from the local library; however, it is mandatory that you have your book in class every day during the first three weeks of school, so plan ahead.

Over the summer, you are responsible for reading ONE of the following books:

The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian

by Sherman Alexie

Arnold Spirit, a goofy-looking dork@with a decent jumpshot, spends his time lamenting life on the poor Spokane Indian reservation, drawing cartoons (which accompany, and often provide more insight than,@the narrative),@and, along with his@aptly named pal Rowdy,@laughing those laughs over anything and nothing@that affix best friends so intricately together.@

Autobiography of My Dead Brother

by Walter Dean Myers

Fifteen-year-old Jesse lives a clean and relatively careful life in contemporary Harlem. His best friend and honorary brother, Rise, is two years older and plays life faster and looser. The boys belong to a social club inherited from the men of the older generation. The Counts aren't a gang and the members tend to have a variety of aesthetic interests. Jesse is devoted to cartooning and sketching while C. J. is a fine musician. Rise, however, it seems to Jesse, has begun to lead a second life that doesn't include him or The Counts.

Chinese Cinderella: The True Story of an Unwanted Daughter

by Adeline Yen Mah

Chinese Cinderella

is the perfect title for Adeline Yen Mah's compelling autobiography in which, like the fairy-tale maiden, her childhood was ruled by a cruel stepmother.

Crank

by Ellen Hopkins

In Ellen Hopkins's semi-autobiographical verse novel, Crank, she chronicles the turbulent and often disturbing relationship between Kristina, a character based on her own daughter, and the "monster," the highly addictive drug crystal meth, or "crank.h

Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance

by Barack Obama

Elected the first black president of the Harvard Law Review (and later, of the United States), Obama was offered a book contract, but the intellectual journey he planned to recount became instead this poignant, probing memoir of an unusual life.

Funny in Farsi: A Memoir of Growing Up Iranian in America

by Firoozeh Dumas

This lighthearted memoir chronicles the author's move from Iran to America in 1971 at age seven, the antics of her extended family, and her eventual marriage to a Frenchman.

 

The House on Mango Street

by Sandra Cisneros

Esperanza Cordero, a girl coming of age in the Hispanic quarter of Chicago, uses poems and stories to express thoughts and emotions about her oppressive environment.

I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings

by Maya Angelou

In this first of five volumes of autobiography, poet Maya Angelou recounts a youth filled with disappointment, frustration, tragedy, and finally hard-won independence. Sent at a young age to live with her grandmother in Arkansas, Angelou learned a great deal from this exceptional woman and the tightly knit black community there.

Maus I: A Survivorfs Tale: My Father Bleeds History

by Art Spiegelman

(You may also enjoy reading Maus II, which tells the rest of Spiegelmanfs story.)

Spiegelman, a graphic artist, interviewed his father, Vladek, a Holocaust survivor living outside New York City, about his experiences. The artist then deftly translated that story into a graphic novel. By portraying a true story of the Holocaust in comic form--the Jews are mice, the Germans cats, the Poles pigs, the French frogs, and the Americans dogs--Spiegelman compels the reader to imagine the action, to fill in the blanks that are so often shied away from. Reading Maus, you are forced to examine the Holocaust anew.

Staying Fat for Sarah Byrnes

by Chris Cutcher

While probing such issues as friendship, free speech, and moral values, Crutcher tells a tale whose sarcastic humor, poignancy, and suspense pack a breathtaking wallop. A social outcast in junior high due to his excessive weight, narrator Eric Calhoune found a kindred spirit in Sarah Byrnes, whose face and hands were hideously disfigured in a childhood accident. Now a senior and considerably slimmed down through competitive swimming (though still aptly called "Moby"), Eric remains fiercely devoted to his friend, whose caustic tongue is her only protection from life's inequities. When Sarah abruptly stops talking and is committed to a mental ward, Eric is compelled to take action to help her, but quickly finds that he is in over his head.

The Things They Carried

by Tim OfBrien

Weapons and good-luck charms carried by U.S. soldiers in Vietnam here represent survival, lost innocence, and the war's interminable legacy. Publisherfs Weekly explains, "O'Brien's meditations--on war and memory, on darkness and light--suffuse the entire work with a kind of poetic form, making for a highly original, fully realized novel.h

Three Cups of Tea: One Manfs Journey to Change the World One Child at a Time

by Greg Mortensen

Some failures lead to phenomenal successes, and this American nurse's unsuccessful attempt to climb K2, the world's second tallest mountain, is one of them. Dangerously ill when he finished his climb in 1993, Mortenson was sheltered for seven weeks by the small Pakistani village of Korphe; in return, he promised to build the impoverished town's first school, a project that grew into the Central Asia Institute, which has since constructed more than 50 schools across rural Pakistan and Afghanistan.

The Zookeeperfs Wife: A War Story

by Diane Ackerman

Ackerman tells the remarkable WWII story of Jan Zabinski, the director of the Warsaw Zoo, and his wife, Antonina, who, with courage and coolheaded ingenuity, sheltered 300 Jews as well as Polish resisters in their villa and in animal cages and sheds. Using Antonina's diaries, other contemporary sources and her own research in Poland, Ackerman takes us into the Warsaw ghetto and the 1943 Jewish uprising and also describes the Poles' revolt against the Nazi occupiers in 1944.

 

Please note: The descriptions provided above have been adapted from

www.amazon.com. Students are encouraged to research the books choices on their own as well.

@

@

FYI: Assignments on the summer reading will be assigned the first week of school. Students will have several weeks to complete the accompanying assignment once school begins.

 

 

Posted by: Cowboy at June 20, 2012 09:19 PM (CqxTO)

340 HB -- you might be thinking of this http://tinyurl.com/6t3l9ko

Posted by: cthulhu at June 20, 2012 09:20 PM (kaalw)

341

340

 

A very good point. So the question then becomes, "Did the DOJ with the blessing of the "O" himself sanction murder in order to promote the removal of gun rights within the U.S?

THAT BE SOME DOPE SHIT HOMEY................

Posted by: Richard at June 20, 2012 09:20 PM (0jyYB)

342 what other reason would they leave their weapons clean of prints behind at the scene? Who said they were clean of prints? And what good are prints if the owner of them isn't in any database? You're making a big jump to a "planted gun" conspiracy. And it sounds like you're trying to spin a pro administration meme.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 20, 2012 09:22 PM (DGOqy)

343 #347 That's the article! Thank you hon, you really are the best. I never have figured out how to post a link.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 09:24 PM (R5yLq)

344 why you so tasty ice cream sandwich?

Posted by: The Dude at June 20, 2012 09:24 PM (tw6Ar)

345 343, you seem concerned...

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 09:25 PM (qqlqB)

346 Cowboy, to be fair, I read Maus back in the 80s, and I really enjoyed it. There's no lefty propaganda there at all, IIRC, although I must admit I considered myself a liberal at the time, which may potentially have colored my perception a bit.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 09:25 PM (3yCFy)

347 343, you're Just Asking, right?

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 09:26 PM (qqlqB)

348 Bebe ==== No way am I anywhere near the scum that runs this country, please! I'm asking a question that I think our side needs answers to. How after reading what I posted did you get any idea that I was an Obamaite. I hate the ground he walks on. Think of it, to control our guns you create a scene like I laid out.

Posted by: jainphx at June 20, 2012 09:27 PM (pryxt)

349 Posted by: Cowboy at June 21, 2012 01:19 AM (CqxTO)



Was there actually any English literature in there? If so, I couldn't see it through the Progressive indoctrination. Is the course actually titled, "late 20th century studies in liberal brainwashing"? According to Wikipedia, the early modern period was in the first half of the 16th century.....should a class that purports to educate students about English literature ignore 400 years of it?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 20, 2012 09:27 PM (kaalw)

350 330 #322

Now I am very confused. Why not make that focus of the investigation? ShouldnÂ’t the Republican's be pointing this out to everyone?

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 21, 2012 12:56 AM (R5yLq)


It is never the act that is what gets people in trouble, it is the coverup. All the great scandals were minor issues, but those involved decided to try and cover up everything. If they had just taken their lumps at the beginning, the issue would have died down.

Posted by: MrCaniac at June 20, 2012 09:28 PM (1grxW)

351 355, they got capped by the good guys. You read?

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 09:29 PM (qqlqB)

352 I was getting the impression that jainphx's questions were leading to an indictment of Obama and Holder, but based on the other responses to them, I could be misinterpreting. You'll have to forgive me; I'm partially sober right now, and I wasn't expecting it to hurt like this. I think it's affecting my ability to concentrate.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 09:30 PM (3yCFy)

353

Well now,,

 

Glad we cleared that all up

Posted by: Richard at June 20, 2012 09:30 PM (0jyYB)

354 Pronthonotay Warbler, they aren't assigning Maus. They're assigning a book interpreting Maus. Worse, it's a graphic novel (ie. comic book).

Posted by: Cowboy at June 20, 2012 09:31 PM (CqxTO)

355 That Prothonotary was exactly my point.

Posted by: jainphx at June 20, 2012 09:31 PM (pryxt)

356 357, GREAT POST. lulz. I dunno, this a bit bulky to fit under the rug. They could have nominated a stiff to take the fall, and no one wanted to play.

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 09:31 PM (qqlqB)

357 350 #347

That's the article! Thank you hon, you really are the best. I never have figured out how to post a link.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 21, 2012 01:24 AM (R5yLq)


I'm using Firefox with TinyURL Generator 2.5.1. It makes things less of a PITA (go to web page, right click, drag down to "Create TinyURL for this Page", go to comment, hit CTRL-V).

Posted by: cthulhu at June 20, 2012 09:34 PM (kaalw)

358 Three Cups of Tea: One Manfs Journey to Change the World One Child at a Time
by Greg Mortensen


Hahhahahaha. Three Cups of Tea? Didn't that turn out to be One Giant Asscrock of Lefty Hipster Bullshit?

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 20, 2012 09:34 PM (BJ51P)

359 362, there was a shoot. Perps and LEO bought it. When they secured the scene, they bagged rifles numbered with serials that had been tagged to watch. Make sense?

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 09:34 PM (qqlqB)

360 #361: Okay, now that sounds like some grade-A prime academic horseshit. They can't even assign the comic book itself, but have to go with a book interpreting it? Likely a deconstructionist take on it. Apparently, the comic itself doesn't favor the Left enough.

I stand corrected, Cowboy.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 09:37 PM (3yCFy)

361 #357 I still have a lot to learn about government and politics. An innocent Border Patrol agent was killed because they were trying to trick people into passing more gun control. If I were part of the Romney campaign I would be making it a very big deal.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 09:38 PM (R5yLq)

362 362 That Prothonotary was exactly my point. Posted by: jainphx The known facts lead most people to believe that this wax an assault on the 2nd Amendment. You trotted out facts not in evidence (planted weapons), which to me gives the whole deal a tinfoil hat spin that will be used to discredit the investigation.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 20, 2012 09:38 PM (DGOqy)

363 I'm pretty sure large parts of _Three Cups of Tea_ turned out to be untrue and fraudulent.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at June 20, 2012 09:38 PM (/8fbv)

364 @Cowboy Maus is a well known graphic novel, and is usually generally regarded. Too bad they won't let him read the good stuff like Watchmen, Akira, or anything by Shirow Masamune.

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 20, 2012 09:39 PM (KLP9f)

365 The next metal band I'm in, I will have to write a song called "Hipsters are douchebags".

Posted by: Berserker at June 20, 2012 09:39 PM (FMbng)

366 367 #361: Okay, now that sounds like some grade-A prime academic horseshit. They can't even assign the comic book itself, but have to go with a book interpreting it? Likely a deconstructionist take on it. Apparently, the comic itself doesn't favor the Left enough.

I stand corrected, Cowboy.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 21, 2012 01:37 AM (3yCFy)




No, that on the reading list sounds like the real Maus -- http://tinyurl.com/7xqb9v6

Posted by: cthulhu at June 20, 2012 09:40 PM (kaalw)

367

Look folks,

 

If you start with the premise that F AND F was an actual PLAN with the overall GOAL to strip law abiding sitizens of their rights...then it becomes a simple task of connecting the dots. Trouble is...HOLDER and "O" hold most of the dots.......and with the deaths of Federal and state officers connected with the PLAN....you can all guess when you will see any dots any time soon.

 

Best we can do is keep da bitch's feet to the fire....by any means needed.

Posted by: Richard at June 20, 2012 09:40 PM (0jyYB)

368 #362: Good to know, Jain! I'm glad to hear my brain can still function at least partially even when I'm not totally drunk.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 09:40 PM (3yCFy)

369 #364 You know I love you right? Everything you said after I'm using was a total mystery to me! I'll see if Stuck can explain it to me tomorrow.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 09:42 PM (R5yLq)

370

Yes, Three Cups of Tea is a total fraud. But then most of the titles are total frauds. "Dreams From My Father" was probably written by Bill Ayers. What does one do with Maya Angelou's autobiography? The one 'boy oriented' title, the Vietnam soldier trinket book, is a set-up for discussions led by the lecturers on American policy in Vietnam.

The whole damn list is political, not literary. These are 15 year olds in these classes.

Posted by: Cowboy at June 20, 2012 09:42 PM (CqxTO)

371 Maus was an awesome read (second half more so)

Posted by: The Dude at June 20, 2012 09:43 PM (tw6Ar)

372 #374 I see the point about why Congress is doing what they are doing with the investigation. The emails might not be enough evidence in court. I am still confused as to why the Romney campaign wouldn't use them.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 09:47 PM (R5yLq)

373 368 #357

I still have a lot to learn about government and politics. An innocent Border Patrol agent was killed because they were trying to trick people into passing more gun control. If I were part of the Romney campaign I would be making it a very big deal.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 21, 2012 01:38 AM (R5yLq)



The problem is that you must think like a lawyer -- remember Clenis saying: "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true." -- that's actually the difference between Clinton being impeached (which he was) and removed from office (which he was not).



We know (because we're not stupid) that Obama and Holder killed over 200 people to try to ban guns so that only criminals and thugs would have them. Problem is, 99% of them are Mexican, and there's been over a year of stonewalling and BS.



But we can prove (because they've withdrawn the original statements and won't say why or how) that Holder and his gang of merry men lied to Congress.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 20, 2012 09:47 PM (kaalw)

374 More about this on the gaming post, but it's a parody of the link dri put up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnG-3AuYd4U& Don't know if it'll work, cause I'm on my phone lol

Posted by: Zakn at June 20, 2012 09:47 PM (wePjE)

375 Posted by: Cowboy at June 21, 2012 01:19 AM (CqxTO)

--I have heard (no kidding) from friends that the Angelou work is actually pretty good, solely on literary merit --don;t know how leftoid-laden it is.  I read Maus in high school (heard about it when American Tale was released and there was a kerfuffle about it ripping off the comic) and liked it as well, but as a young naif I may have been clueless about any lefty subtleties therein.

That said, that's the best they could do?  Would it have killed them to scrath into the great classics?  Hell, even if they want to be confined to post-1900 works, why not Dreiser, Waugh, Steinbeck, or Hemingway? 

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 09:48 PM (ykSKg)

376 Sweet it worked

Posted by: Zakn at June 20, 2012 09:48 PM (wePjE)

377 376 #364

You know I love you right? Everything you said after I'm using was a total mystery to me! I'll see if Stuck can explain it to me tomorrow.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 21, 2012 01:42 AM (R5yLq)



I've got to warn you, running around with an "I >heart< Cthulhu" t-shirt will probably cause talk.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 20, 2012 09:49 PM (kaalw)

378

Posted by: Zakn at June 21, 2012 01:47 AM (wePjE)


prefer the LoL version

Posted by: The Dude at June 20, 2012 09:50 PM (tw6Ar)

379 I'd say Maus is also a good boy-oriented book. It's about a boy hearing about the Holocaust from his grandfather. It inspires resistance to anything resembling that shameful part of Western history.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 09:50 PM (3yCFy)

380 370, nice work. I got the entire 'concern' vibe. Weak. When folks shoot, people fall. Pretty straightforward, except when you are 'just asking'.

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 09:50 PM (qqlqB)

381 That said, that's the best they could do? Would it have killed them to scrath into the great classics? Hell, even if they want to be confined to post-1900 works, why not Dreiser, Waugh, Steinbeck, or Hemingway?

Posted by: logprof at June 21, 2012 01:48 AM (ykSKg)



I fucking hated having to read Steinbeck. I'd rather read the lefty drivel on the list.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 20, 2012 09:52 PM (kaalw)

382 #380 I don't think I will ever think like a lawyer. I would like to see an ad from the Romney campaign with a list of the names of the Mexican's killed. The narrator could talk about Fast and Furious and tell people how Obama's policies have really impacted the Hispanic community.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 09:52 PM (R5yLq)

383 Yes, it looks like I have misunderstood the Maus entry, I thought it was a graphic novel distillation of an actual novel, but that is not the case. I'm still troubled by that one, though. Graphic novels for 10th grade lit? Got a big problem with that.

Posted by: Cowboy at June 20, 2012 09:53 PM (CqxTO)

384 Gee, usually I just hang out here with no comment,mostly due to AK time zone, Does anyone here ever check in on FSTV now run by RT, it is breathtaking..

Posted by: AlaskaGal at June 20, 2012 09:53 PM (RqQXD)

385 Link the LoL version

Posted by: Zakn at June 20, 2012 09:53 PM (ifW8f)

386 386 I'd say Maus is also a good boy-oriented book. It's about a boy hearing about the Holocaust from his grandfather. It inspires resistance to anything resembling that shameful part of Western history.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 21, 2012 01:50 AM (3yCFy)


--I agree.  While I have not read most of those, Maus seems the best of that lot, if only for being the only one I read.


As for my previous rant, if the indoctrinators wanted to go non-fiction ( --I'll humor them) there are still better works to choose from from the past century or so.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 09:53 PM (ykSKg)

387 Good evening.

Read that link on foreign travel guides about America and hopped on over to the Atlanitc.  Was reading the comments and...Christ, ya know, I would have thought that Atlantic readers would be a little more intelligent.  It was like some sort of Marxist class warfare with people going on and on about the unfairness of tipping (boohoo) and "living wages" and blah blah blah...

I don't think one person mentioned that most independent restaurants fail rather quickly and aren't in any real position to pay decent wages.  Around here we got like a million Mexican restaurants and maybe, I don't know, three have had any staying power.  One is cheap, one is excellent, and one caters to drunks who wander over from the nearby bars.  No, wait, that place closed up.  Make that two.  (We also had one outstanding BBQ place that was run right into the ground.  Such a shame.)

Fapplebees?  Okay, yeah, the chains.  Ya know what?  Fuck the chains!  Last time I was at a chain restaurant the wait staff and management were all pushy and desperate for approval.  FUCK OFF!  Leave me alone!  And give bigger portions.  What fucking country you think this is, France?  Oh, wait, right, Moochelle.  I remember now.    Disapprove that the big chains pay their waitstaff fuck all?  Fine, stop going.  Don't approve, don't patronize.  That simple.  More room for the mom and pop places.

I really couldn't read the rest.  I'm always interested in what misconceptions foreigners bring with them when visiting, but that thread was just lame.

Posted by: Robert at June 20, 2012 09:54 PM (4ixH5)

388 380, also statutory work from cuthulu. We got a smart blog. Alas, we lack me. Checking out. Watch for a new splodey experience soon. Somewhere near that I place. Not to kill reax, but putting a new object in orbit, or trying.

Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 20, 2012 09:54 PM (qqlqB)

389 Thom Hartman is such a tool but waaaayyyy prettier than Rachael

Posted by: AlaskaGal at June 20, 2012 09:56 PM (RqQXD)

390 I fucking hated having to read Steinbeck. I'd rather read the lefty drivel on the list.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 21, 2012 01:52 AM (kaalw)


--I'll say that Steinbeck is probably a bit much for most 15 year-olds and under.  The Pearl was too much in 8th grade, but I enjoyed Of Mice and Men at age 32.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 09:56 PM (ykSKg)

391 Graphic novels for 10th grade lit? Got a big problem with that.

Posted by: Cowboy at June 21, 2012 01:53 AM (CqxTO)


dunno why, lit is about reading and though it maybe a different format, it does a great job in storytelling and touches on universal themes. There be a reason why it won so many awards

Posted by: The Dude at June 20, 2012 09:56 PM (tw6Ar)

392 #391 Welcome AlaskaGal!

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 09:57 PM (R5yLq)

393 Link the LoL version

Posted by: Zakn at June 21, 2012 01:53 AM (ifW8f)



http://tinyurl.com/6nwb8lp

Posted by: The Dude at June 20, 2012 09:57 PM (tw6Ar)

394 389 #380

I don't think I will ever think like a lawyer. I would like to see an ad from the Romney campaign with a list of the names of the Mexican's killed. The narrator could talk about Fast and Furious and tell people how Obama's policies have really impacted the Hispanic community.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 21, 2012 01:52 AM (R5yLq)



I'm certainly not advocating it. The problem is that Clinton skated despite being the chief law enforcement officer suborning perjury -- primarily through legalistic flim-flam. So, now we get to live through a generation where everything has to be immune from being legalistically flim-flammed besides being freakin' obvious.



The media and the Democrats (but I repeat myself) kept up the lie that it was prosecuting Clinton for sex, when he could have been banging two-or-three women each day on the White House lawn....instead of admitting that it was about using the power of the Presidency to override law enforcement to avoid personal embarrassment.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 20, 2012 09:58 PM (kaalw)

395 I really couldn't read the rest. I'm always interested in what misconceptions foreigners bring with them when visiting, but that thread was just lame.

Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2012 01:54 AM (4ixH5)


--As an American living in Canada, I get to see a lot almost every day.  I get to see it 2x over with the foreign students. . . .

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 10:00 PM (ykSKg)

396 "FSTV now run by RT" -- ok, I have no idea what that meant.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 20, 2012 10:03 PM (kaalw)

397 #394: Anytime there's an article on tipping, the comments section is always interesting. One funny trend I've noticed is foreigners bragging that their countries mandate a "living wage" for waiters, and that tipping isn't necessary... at the same time, though, those who've been to the USA say something along the lines of, "I'm really impressed by the service in American restaurants... you should pay them a higher base salary, like we do!"

It never enters their minds that tipping might be the very reason service is so good here in the States. Also... why restaurant food is cheaper here than in other countries. Did you know that in Sweden, it costs the equivalent of $50 to have a large one-topping pizza delivered?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 10:04 PM (3yCFy)

398

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 21, 2012 01:52 AM (R5yLq)


I want Romney to fucking tear into that asshole.  I want him to shit in his mouth.  From now until November I want Romney running ads in every Spanish language TV and radio station talking about the over 300 Mexicans killed in F n F and the cover up. 

It hit me after the whole "executive privilege" thing that I'll vote for Romney.  I was debating whether or not I could have my cake and eat it too.  It's Texas, Romney'll win it.  I could vote for Gary Johnson.  Fuck it, not happening anymore.  Can't do it.  I'm gonna have to vote for Romney just cause Obama sickens me that much.  Hey, 'Bambi, here's your "hispanic" vote, asshole, now shove it up your ass.

Posted by: Robert at June 20, 2012 10:07 PM (4ixH5)

399 In CA school any moons ago in 9th grade we read, Hugo, Twain, Tolstoy & Marquez, some the we're socialist etc. but were actuall real authors, not some feminist snatch writing about her vijayjay

Posted by: AlaskaGal at June 20, 2012 10:07 PM (RqQXD)

400 Did you know that in Sweden, it costs the equivalent of $50 to have a large one-topping pizza delivered?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 21, 2012 02:04 AM (3yCFy)


That better be some fucking pizza.

Posted by: Robert at June 20, 2012 10:10 PM (4ixH5)

401 #401 I was like ten years old when Clinton got elected. I think it was the same year Sissy was born.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 10:11 PM (R5yLq)

402 #405 Eloquent as always! I'm not sure if Romney wants to get that nasty but couldn't some of these super pack people do that for him?

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 10:13 PM (R5yLq)

403 Most 20th and 21st century lit is horrid. The only decent titles are Sci-Fi, horror, & fantasy. You could pick from the ABC's: Caves of Steal by Asimov, Something Wicked This Way Comes by Bradbury, or Rendezvous with Rama by Clarke. Alternatly they could pcik some Heinlein: The Moon is a Harsh Mistress As for non-fiction, Churchhill's History of English Speaking People's is good. It's a long one, but read rather fast and leaves you wanting more.

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 20, 2012 10:14 PM (KLP9f)

404 The Dude, literature isn't just about storytelling. They could watch TV for their summer reading assignment if all it came down to was storytelling. Also, some great literature does not tell stories, such as many poetic forms. Literature is about the written word, and English class, especially at the 10th grade level, is about getting grounded in the works of the masters of the English language. Graphic novels are hybrids, and they're more heavily concerned with the visuals than the text in almost every case. I don't deny that greatness could exist in that genre, but it is at best supplemental to the basic aim of literary study at the foundational levels.

Posted by: Cowboy at June 20, 2012 10:14 PM (CqxTO)

405 #407: Yeah, here you're looking at $10-$15 for exactly the same thing, because you're expected to tip the driver! You put a few bucks on top of that directly in his pocket, and it reduces the overall cost for everyone!

I don't see how it's possible not to be able to make that connection.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 10:15 PM (3yCFy)

406 409... super pacs... why Romney can/will select a Minnesota Nice VP like Pawlenty instead of an attack dog... 

Romney will go for competence, and have him actually  help manage the downsizing of the bureaucracy

Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at June 20, 2012 10:16 PM (Bxm/r)

407  I don't deny that greatness could exist in that genre, but it is at best supplemental to the basic aim of literary study at the foundational levels.

Posted by: Cowboy at June 21, 2012 02:14 AM (CqxTO)


that is one of the dumbest things I've read but w/e, elo hell is calling my name

Posted by: The Dude at June 20, 2012 10:17 PM (tw6Ar)

408 #413 I have a lot to learn about politics but I think Romney should pick Rubio.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 10:19 PM (R5yLq)

409 Well, I'm done for the evening. Good night, everyone!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 20, 2012 10:19 PM (3yCFy)

410 Eloquent as always! I'm not sure if Romney wants to get that nasty but couldn't some of these super pack people do that for him?

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 21, 2012 02:13 AM (R5yLq)


We need to put something together.  We'll call it Fuck The Jugeared Asshole PAC.


No, something more patriotic.


Fuck The Jugeared Asshole FOR AMERICA PAC.


Catchy.


By the by, I was sipping my coffee and noticed that Romney's sons were on Conan O'Brien.  Was actually kinda funny.  Ya'll should watch it.  I think Conan's site puts up new episodes online the next day.

Posted by: Robert at June 20, 2012 10:20 PM (4ixH5)

411 #416 Good night Prothonotary. It was very nice meeting you

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 10:20 PM (R5yLq)

412 406 In CA school any moons ago in 9th grade we read, Hugo, Twain, Tolstoy & Marquez, some the we're socialist etc. but were actuall real authors, not some feminist snatch writing about her vijayjay

Posted by: AlaskaGal at June 21, 2012 02:07 AM (RqQXD)


--It's weird, but I actually recall more of the 9th grade reading list than 10th.  I just at the moment recall two titles from 10th, but from 9th Merchant of Venice, Romeo and Juliet, a healthy serving of Edith Hamilton's mythology, The Rime of the Ancient Mariner . . . How the hell does Three Cups of Tea compare?

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 10:20 PM (ykSKg)

413 Good night, Warbler!

Posted by: Robert at June 20, 2012 10:21 PM (4ixH5)

414 I was like ten years old when Clinton got elected. 

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 21, 2012 02:11 AM (R5yLq)


Huh, you're only two years older than me.  I was 12.  I had my tonsils taken out that election day, in fact.  I had a cold just prior and was taking stuff for it and subsequently lost my sense of taste for three weeks.


And they LIE about the ice cream.  Sonsabitches.

Posted by: Robert at June 20, 2012 10:23 PM (4ixH5)

415 403 Free Speach TV + Russia Times, Jullian Ausange has his own show, crazy stuff, makes Olberman look conservative

Posted by: AlaskaGal at June 20, 2012 10:23 PM (RqQXD)

416 #417 Maybe we can put a few ads together ourselves and use YouTube. I know Stuck has a lot of video editing software.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 10:23 PM (R5yLq)

417 As an American living in Canada, I get to see a lot almost every day. I get to see it 2x over with the foreign students. . . .

Posted by: logprof at June 21, 2012 02:00 AM (ykSKg)


How is Canoodlia, ay?

Posted by: Robert at June 20, 2012 10:25 PM (4ixH5)

418 #421 I knew Clinton was no good the moment my mother announced she loved him. My mom never fell in love with any man who wasn't a total scumbag.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 10:26 PM (R5yLq)

419 #422 That sounds awful.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 10:28 PM (R5yLq)

420 410 Most 20th and 21st century lit is horrid. The only decent titles are Sci-Fi, horror, & fantasy.

You could pick from the ABC's: Caves of Steal by Asimov, Something Wicked This Way Comes by Bradbury, or Rendezvous with Rama by Clarke.

Alternatly they could pcik some Heinlein: The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

As for non-fiction, Churchhill's History of English Speaking People's is good. It's a long one, but read rather fast and leaves you wanting more.

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 21, 2012 02:14 AM (KLP9f)


--I just turned on the wifey to Brideshead Revisted, a thoroughly conservative and great piece of 20th century literature.  I did so by snagging the mini-series (which I had never seen) in Costco.  Now I am kicking myself that I can't find my paperback, since I'm sure she'd enjoy it.

Sister Carrie by Theodore Dreiser is also a great read --hard for me to put down.  Flannery O'Connor . . . Faulkner (another author I could not stand as a teen but can appreciate now) . . . lots of good post-1900 stuff there for the reading.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 10:29 PM (ykSKg)

421 How is Canoodlia, ay?

Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2012 02:25 AM (4ixH5)


--A hell of a lot better than Dallas in the summer.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 10:31 PM (ykSKg)

422 From Wikipedia:

The oath of office of the President of the United States is an oath or affirmation required by the United States Constitution before the President begins the execution of the office. The wording is specified in Article Two, Section One, Clause Eight:

   " I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."



Jimmy Carter was previously the worst President in my lifetime, but -- however mistaken his beliefs -- he tried to live up to his oath.



Barack Obama was as false as his composite ghostwritten "autobiography" when he mouthed those words and grunted. The First Amendment includes "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" -- but the Obama administration has lost a court case where it tried to regulate religious teachers and is facing a battle over whether Catholics must financially support abortion. The Second Amendment states that the right to bear arms shall not be abridged....and was under attack by a loathsome PR move that has resulted in hundreds of corpses.




The Seventh Amendment (now dormant) was imperfectly aimed at wealth erosion by regulation, rather than by public lawmaking. And the Ninth and Tenth Amendments have been widely ignored by both parties for nearly a century (Wikipedia's entries are worth reading at http://tinyurl.com/p9nuc and http://tinyurl.com/by47x ).



BHO is both the worst President in my lifetime, and also the President most in breach of his Oath.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 20, 2012 10:32 PM (kaalw)

423 Sumer is icumen in, Lhude sing cuccu! Groweþ sed and bloweþ med And springþ þe wde nu, Sing cuccu! Awe bleteþ after lomb, Lhouþ after calue cu. Bulluc sterteþ, bucke uerteþ, Murie sing cuccu! Cuccu, cuccu, wel singes þu cuccu; Ne swik þu nauer nu. Pes: Sing cuccu nu. Sing cuccu. Sing cuccu. Sing cuccu nu!

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 20, 2012 10:32 PM (KLP9f)

424 Maybe we can put a few ads together ourselves and use YouTube. I know Stuck has a lot of video editing software.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 21, 2012 02:23 AM (R5yLq)


I've not gotten any sleep today.  I'll likely lose my mind at some point if I haven't already.  Here's what we need.  Black and white images of Obama and Holder.  Creepy music.  Pictures of dead Mexicans.  Then we end it all with Stuck shouting obscenities at the camera in Spanish. 

Video goes viral.

Profit.

Posted by: Robert at June 20, 2012 10:33 PM (4ixH5)

425 Logprof,way back in the olden days we read classics, now anything that sells 12,000 on the NYT bestseller list is deemed a must read

Posted by: AlaskaGal at June 20, 2012 10:34 PM (RqQXD)

426 A hell of a lot better than Dallas in the summer.

Posted by: logprof at June 21, 2012 02:31 AM (ykSKg)


What's wrong with triple digits?

Posted by: Robert at June 20, 2012 10:36 PM (4ixH5)

427 414 I don't
deny that greatness could exist in that genre, but it is at best
supplemental to the basic aim of literary study at the foundational
levels.

Posted by: Cowboy at June 21, 2012 02:14 AM (CqxTO)

that is one of the dumbest things I've read but w/e, elo hell is calling my name

Posted by: The Dude at June 21, 2012 02:17 AM (tw6Ar)



No, he's right -- if the subject is English Literature, it should be about writings in English. If' the subject were English expressions, it could bring in films and songs and such, but Literature = writing. And it should cover the range of English writings, unless limited in the class title.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 20, 2012 10:37 PM (kaalw)

428 #431 I'm not sure if Stuck can curse in Spanish but I will ask

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 10:38 PM (R5yLq)

429 I need to say good night. I'd better wake my boys up and get them to bed. Good night everyone. I'll talk to Stuck about that ad in the morning.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 20, 2012 10:40 PM (R5yLq)

430 Good ngiht, Hummingbird!

Posted by: Robert at June 20, 2012 10:40 PM (4ixH5)

431 Er, don't worry about any ads!

I'm just blowing off steam.

Posted by: Robert at June 20, 2012 10:41 PM (4ixH5)

432 425 #421

I knew Clinton was no good the moment my mother announced she loved him. My mom never fell in love with any man who wasn't a total scumbag.

Posted by: Hummingbird at June 21, 2012 02:26 AM (R5yLq)


Compared to the current pResident, I'd love to see Billy Clenis back in -- and I'm not a fan. But he has American instincts and is actually smart -- neither of which I'd ascribe to BHO. Clinton's WH was going along to get along.....BHO's is evil Chicago ooze.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 20, 2012 10:43 PM (kaalw)

433 G'night, HB!

Posted by: cthulhu at June 20, 2012 10:44 PM (kaalw)

434 432 Logprof,way back in the olden days we read classics, now anything that sells 12,000 on the NYT bestseller list is deemed a must read

Posted by: AlaskaGal at June 21, 2012 02:34 AM (RqQXD)


--Are you on the FB group?  I went to a local bookstore and sneaked a copy of The Audacity of Hope into the "Myths and Folklore" section to snap a photo.   (I wanted to do it with Dreams but could not find a copy.)


Seriously, though, I can't believe how low high school English has deteriorated in just a few years --or maybe I just went to a great public school and did not appreciate it at the time.  I know that in AP English (12th grade) Teacher was gunning for the AP Exam/MLA List, but I wonder if the MLA's standards have also plummeted these years on.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 10:44 PM (ykSKg)

435

Summer Reading?

 

Conrad, Shaw, Mamet, Hemingway, Williams, Orwell, Melville, Dickens, Shakespeare, Tolkien....

 

That help?

Posted by: Richard at June 20, 2012 10:45 PM (0jyYB)

436 I'd favor a Constitutional amendment that said that Presidential candidates could not have spent more than six months of the last year in Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle, Detroit, or Baltimore; nor more than a year of the past two in the same cities; nor two years of four, four years of eight, or eight years of sixteen.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 20, 2012 10:48 PM (kaalw)

437 Conrad, Shaw, Mamet, Hemingway, Williams, Orwell, Melville, Dickens, Shakespeare, Tolkien....

That help?

Posted by: Richard at June 21, 2012 02:45 AM (0jyYB)


--Well of course if I were home-schooling a sophomore I would tap into that, but we're dealing with something worse.


(I'd avid Melville, though: Billy Budd still haunts me.)

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 10:49 PM (ykSKg)

438

444,

 

Since you noted, yes I am in fact, both a daughter and a son......

Posted by: Richard at June 20, 2012 10:52 PM (0jyYB)

439 Heh, I'm watching for the first time ever (Thank you, Youtube) the Hootie and the Blowfish video "Only Wanna Be With You" . . . wow, it was in my own adult lifetime that Keith Olbermann was a sane, functional human being.

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 10:52 PM (ykSKg)

440

Shoot,

The beep-beep says it's almost midnight in the garden of good and evil so....

 

night all!

Posted by: Richard at June 20, 2012 10:56 PM (0jyYB)

441 (I'd avid Melville, though: Billy Budd still haunts me.)

Posted by: logprof at June 21, 2012 02:49 AM (ykSKg)



There is a buttload of actual English Literature (Dana, Milton....to say nothing of the beginnings of "Gothic tales", "mysteries", "Science Fiction", and the like, which spilled over into world literature). Why should any "Eng Lit" class have that horrid reading list unless it was "Eng Lit 213 -- Progressive Whiners." [....although Maus is well-thought of]


Posted by: cthulhu at June 20, 2012 10:56 PM (kaalw)

442 Cooth, add DC to that list, you might be on to something.

Posted by: DC in Towson, survives entirely on hate at June 20, 2012 10:57 PM (I/cLr)

443 There is a buttload of actual English Literature (Dana, Milton....to say nothing of the beginnings of "Gothic tales", "mysteries", "Science Fiction", and the like, which spilled over into world literature). Why should any "Eng Lit" class have that horrid reading list unless it was "Eng Lit 213 -- Progressive Whiners." [....although Maus is well-thought of]

Posted by: cthulhu at June 21, 2012 02:56 AM (kaalw)


--Yes!  If I had a daughter who wanted to read that Twilight shit I'd hand her The Mayor of Casterbridge or --even though I hated it-- Wuthering Heights.  Challenge the children!

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 11:03 PM (ykSKg)

444 Re: FDA destroying medicine markets. The libs, of course, blame "corporate greed." Like everything else. Well, that and "racism."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 20, 2012 11:13 PM (bxiXv)

445 Dead thread posts away!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 20, 2012 11:25 PM (bxiXv)

446 Damn, it's 2:30 here!

Have a good night, all!

Posted by: logprof at June 20, 2012 11:30 PM (ykSKg)

447 That LoL vi was good Dude. Hearing that the 29th Dust will look and play better

Posted by: Zakn at June 20, 2012 11:36 PM (mFGpz)

448 hi ont, cannot believe the good mood I am in.Anyone here?

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 20, 2012 11:36 PM (fHyXI)

449 I'm refreshing the thread every few minutes but haven't had much to say.

Posted by: epobirs at June 20, 2012 11:49 PM (kcfmt)

450 Yay lou is in a good mood!

Posted by: Zakn at June 20, 2012 11:50 PM (R8Qio)

451 457 Yay lou is in a good mood!

Posted by: Zakn at June 21, 2012 03:50 AM (R8Qio)

I know can you believe it. Eating swedish fishes. the candy, tee hee.

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 20, 2012 11:52 PM (fHyXI)

452 Damn where the hell is lampshade, he was good for at least 50 comments

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 20, 2012 11:55 PM (fHyXI)

453

hi ont, cannot believe the good mood I am in.Anyone here?

 

A few hardcore regulars and this lurker, who's still up due to gas, not good moods.

Posted by: Panhandler at June 21, 2012 12:05 AM (rZ5RE)

454 Son of a motherless goat!

Geoff Tate got kicked out of Queensryche.

It's just as well, Queensryche hasn't been worth a shit since Promised Land 18 years ago.  They followed that up with some stab at mainstream attention with Hear In The Now Frontier and it all fell apart.  Geoff Tate is a great singer but he's an asshole who has been chasing the mainstream since and Queensryche suffered for it.

So apparently the band has been in convulsions for the past few months resulting in the rest of the band hiring Todd La Torre from Crimson Glory to form a new outfit called Rising West.  Then I guess they talked it over with their lawyers, said fuck it, and just gave Tate the boot making Todd La Torre QR's new singer.  Sure, fine.  Does this mean no more cabaret acts?  Thank God.  And Rising West was a stupid name anyway.

QR really knew how to piss away a good thing.  Back around 2000 when heavy metal was experiencing a resurgence in the United States you saw Bruce Dickinson and Adrian Smith reunite with Iron Maiden, Rob Halford putting together a fucking great solo act and shit tons of bands from all over breaking big.  And where was Queensryche?  Nowhere.  Geoff Tate puts out a solo album and brags about how it sounds like a Top 40 hit.  Really, Geoff?  Top 40?  Yeah, great...yippy.  

Prior to that they put out their worst album, Q2K, and would eventually follow that with ther second worst album, Tribe.  In sheer desperation they made a sequel to their classic Operation: Mindcrime album.  Came, went, no one cared.  Pathetic.  They've done two more albums since and have flown completely under the radar.  Used to be one of the best metal bands with probably the best American metal singer and now they're just a joke.

Todd La Torre has some good chops.  Actually, he seems to sounds a lot like Tate, but whatever.  Their best years are well behind them but I can hope the rest of the band can pull their shit together and still manage to release one more great metal album.

Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2012 12:06 AM (4ixH5)

455 By the way, you're all getting Operation: Mindcrime tomorrow night.

BE THERE!

Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2012 12:07 AM (4ixH5)

456 460
hi ont, cannot believe the good mood I am in.Anyone here?

A few hardcore regulars and this lurker, who's still up due to gas, not good moods.

Posted by: Panhandler at June 21, 2012 04:05 AM (rZ5RE)

That sucks!

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 21, 2012 12:08 AM (fHyXI)

457 Howdy, Lou!  Why you in such a good mood?

Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2012 12:08 AM (4ixH5)

458

By the way, you're all getting Operation: Mindcrime tomorrow night.

Hmm, Mindcrime or Morpheus - Decisions, decisions, decisions.

Posted by: Panhandler at June 21, 2012 12:09 AM (rZ5RE)

459 First the one, then the other.

Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2012 12:12 AM (4ixH5)

460

That sucks

  If it sucked, I wouldn't have gas.  "Don't eat that pizza, you know what will happen"  "Nah, it's OK, just this once."   

Posted by: Panhandler at June 21, 2012 12:12 AM (rZ5RE)

461 464 Howdy, Lou! Why you in such a good mood?

Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2012 04:08 AM (4ixH5)

I dont know, just tired of being pissed off all the time!

Posted by: lou's a girl at June 21, 2012 12:16 AM (fHyXI)

462 446  Robert, when I was your age, the Beatles hadn't released Abby Road yet.  This causes a bit of a dichotomy, I get the feeling that Mindcrime would negate Morepheus.

Posted by: Panhandler at June 21, 2012 12:17 AM (rZ5RE)

463 I love Swedish fishes. Hate picken em out of my teeth for the next few hrs

Posted by: Zakn at June 21, 2012 12:29 AM (t20SK)

464

Cowboy - thanks for the book list. Sherman Alexie is hilarious. I think that would probably be the least offensive and most enjoyable read for a teenaged boy.

It is amusing that 3Cups is allowed to be on any reading list since the guy who wrote it turned out to be a scam artist and very little of the money he raised went to build anything outside of his bank account.

But seriously, at the sophmore level, these books are horrible and as several are graphic novels?! Dumbing down indeed.

Posted by: Calyx the HopinToBAnswered at June 21, 2012 12:34 AM (mICe+)

465 Hearing that the 29th Dust will look and play better

Posted by: Zakn at June 21, 2012 03:36 AM (mFGpz)


that would be nice, game is fun but still ugly

Posted by: The Dude at June 21, 2012 12:37 AM (tw6Ar)

466 For Robert: http://tinyurl.com/7mr7y3r

Posted by: cthulhu at June 21, 2012 12:43 AM (kaalw)

467 http://tinyurl.com/7mr7y3r Posted by: cthulhu at June 21, 2012 04:43 AM (kaalw) Science only now catches up to what has long been known.

Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2012 01:02 AM (4ixH5)

468 #471

I thought I would like Sherman Alexie after reading some profiles of him but a collection of short stories I picked up had way too much focus on the buttsecks for my taste.

Posted by: epobirs at June 21, 2012 01:09 AM (kcfmt)

469 ......and.......I'm out. G'night, all. Sleep well and wake.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 21, 2012 01:27 AM (kaalw)

470 Good Morning ONT Morons.  Dayshift coming in.

I have been following this RINO McCain and Dingy Harry campaign to establish more Fascist regulations.  All I can say is piss on NV and AZ voters who put these two bastards back in office.


The Portland Food Desert just illustrates the insanity of Washington regulations.  And it also shows why we have the Senate now debating a farm bill that started at an insane $1T and will likely move up as more pork is added. 80% of the original bill is food stamps.  WTF does food stamps have to do with a farm bill?  Well, tradition from the Democrats has always been to place these kinds of welfare programs into popular bills.  Nobody ever wants to vote down a farm bill because there is a myth that we are a "farming nation" made of of millions of small farmers.


On the drug issue note the logarithmic increase in regulation after Obama took office.  This is part and pacel of the Obama/commie plot to nationalize the healthcare industry.  Yes, that is what Obamacare is all about. Yes they do want a government single payer insurance program, meaning that all healthcare would be paid for by the government.  That means all the doctors and hospitals work for the government  That is defacto nationalization.

And so tips are now 20%.  More inflation on top of inflation.  The last time I saw at Bitter Waitress dot com the recommended tip was 17% but that was a few years ago.

Herb Alpert.  LOL, I can remember that whipped cream album cover when I was a horny teenager and the Tijuana Brass craze. I still have some of those albums digitized.  But little did we know at the time that originally the the band consisted of only one player, Herb Alpert from L.A. not Tijuana.  He overdubbed the tracks to make it sound like a band.  When the invites came in for live performances he was forced to go out and hire a band.  And the woman who modeled the whipped cream?? She became a cult favorite and still has a huge following.


Posted by: Vic at June 21, 2012 01:39 AM (YdQQY)

471 I'm out.

Good night, ONT.

Good morning, Vic.

Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2012 01:48 AM (4ixH5)

472 Morning Robert

Posted by: Vic at June 21, 2012 01:51 AM (YdQQY)

473 Hi ya Vic, have a good day young man.

Posted by: teej has your back Dags at June 21, 2012 01:52 AM (fdnD9)

474 Young man????

Posted by: Vic at June 21, 2012 01:58 AM (YdQQY)

475 We could have three million farmers and that would still only account for less than 1% of the population.

The employment levels tied to farming is one of the fascinating aspects of the evolution of the modern world.

It isn't Sunday but the book I'm reading is a good discussion of such things. The Birth of Plenty: how The Prosperity of the Modern World Was Created by William J. Bernstein.

It covers a lot of familiar ground for most of us but is a great item to point somebody at who needs a quick education in why our civilization is better than others. That we have more and better stuff because we created it, not because we stole it from others.

I'd strongly recommend it to anyone with teenagers in need of a better education than the public system offers.

Posted by: epobirs at June 21, 2012 02:08 AM (kcfmt)

476 Almost all of the farms in the US are now 1000 acres are better. The era of the small farmer with a couple of hundred acres died long ago. 


But don't look at USDA statistics on this.  Their definitions are bullshit because they include government subsidies in their definition.

Posted by: Vic at June 21, 2012 02:15 AM (YdQQY)

477 Also, a farm as defined as any entity that sells at least $1,000 worth of agriculturally related products. So if I raised rabbits and tomatoes on by 1.5 acres of suburban neighborhood land and sold them for more than $1,000 in a year I would be a "farm".

Posted by: Vic at June 21, 2012 02:17 AM (YdQQY)

478 @484 Heh. If you were a gal in NYC living in an efficiency apartment that sold the same beaver repeatedly for $1,000 a year, the USDA would declare you a farm? What sort, a crab farm?

Posted by: CoolCzech at June 21, 2012 02:26 AM (niZvt)

479 The USDA is a really good example of a federal agency that needs to be taken out behind the barn and shot. It has long been primarily for the purpose of allowing low population states to exert absurd levels of power over the rest of the nation. The USDA is effectively an extra Senate seat for each farm state.

Posted by: epobirs at June 21, 2012 02:27 AM (kcfmt)

480 #485

Decent beaver, well kept and trimmed with good maintenance. should be a far better earner than $1,000 a year. It should be pulling down that much a week with part-time hours.

Unless it's one of those nasty crack beavers.
 

Posted by: epobirs at June 21, 2012 02:29 AM (kcfmt)

481

@487-

"Unless it's one of those nasty crack beavers."

And I now have my fantasy football team name- Nasty Crack Beavers.

Thanks for that.

Posted by: Butch Holder at June 21, 2012 02:54 AM (ksERZ)

482 News up

Posted by: Vic at June 21, 2012 02:56 AM (YdQQY)

Posted by: Vic at June 21, 2012 03:29 AM (YdQQY)

484 In Fast and Furious, when do we first come across the missing eighteen minutes, with the corresponding tortured explanation? It's beginning to seem inevitable.

Posted by: Tonawanda at June 21, 2012 05:41 AM (iuHbc)

485 I've got a better idea: Vince McMahon should just buy pro boxing outright (sanctioning agencies, officials, promoters, managers and fighters) and turn it into a division of WWE. It would bring a badly-needed measure of legitimacy to the game. And you know Don King was born to work for the WWE anyway.

Posted by: Rich Fader at June 22, 2012 12:28 PM (K5VE1)

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