June 28, 2012
— Maetenloch Compared to the top 10 causes of death in 1900 by the New England Journal of Medicine.
And the good news is that life expectancy has risen from 49 years in 1900 to almost 79 today with a much higher quality of life. The not so good news is we're also finally living long enough to get cancer or heart disease.
But perhaps if we eventually unlock the secret to these diseases, we could make the new leading causes of death be duels, reality tv, and ennui.
And compare these to what killed people back in 1811. Who knew that cold water, apoplexy, and mortification were so deadly?
Where The Bloodthirsty Fascist Ones Are
Okay I still like Where The Wild Things Are but clearly it was a good thing that Maurice Sendak was never allowed to have any political kind of power before he died as he made clear in an interview recently published in The Comics Journal. And Gary Groth should be watched too since he's a known suck-up to would-be political terrorists.
SENDAK: Bush was president, I thought, "Be brave. Tie a bomb to your shirt. Insist on going to the White House. And I wanna have a big hug with the vice president, definitely. And his wife, and the president, and his wife, and anybody else that can fit into the love hug."GROTH: A group hug.
SENDAK: And then we'll blow ourselves up, and I'd be a hero. [Groth laughs.] To hell with the kiddie books. He killed Bush. He killed the vice president. Oh my God.
GROTH: I would have been willing to forgo this interview. [Sendak laughs.]
The Oldest Naval Ships Still in Service
It turns out that there are some pretty old ships still in use even by major navies.
Last year the British Royal Navy retired its oldest warship still in service, the 4,700 ton HMS Caroline. This light cruiser entered service in 1914 and fought in the epic Battle of Jutland in 1916. After World War II Caroline served as a training ship, mostly tied up at dockside. When decommissioned last year, the ship could no longer move under her own power.
And until recently the USS Kitty Hawk (commissioned in 1961) was the USN's oldest active ship:
three years ago the carrier, USS Kitty Hawk (CV 63) was finally decommissioned and ceased to be the oldest ship in the fleet. The Kitty Hawk served for 48 years and 13 days. In that time about 100,000 sailors served on the ship. The ship was the navy's last non-nuclear carrier and, since 1998, the oldest ship in commission.
But the record goes to Russia's VMF Kommuna:
Currently, the oldest ship still in service is the Russian salvage ship VMF Kommuna. This 2,500 ton catamaran was built in the Netherlands and entered service in 1915. Kommuna began service in the Czar's navy, spent most of its career in the Soviet (communist) Navy and now serves in the fleet of a democratic Russia. Originally designed to recover submarines that had sunk in shallow coastal waters, Kommuna remains in service to handle smaller submersibles, does it well and has been maintained over the decades to the point where it is cheaper to keep the old girl operational than to try to design and build a replacement.
10 Bizarre Schools From Around The Country
Okay Ace already covered the Blue Man Group school which came under fire from parents who discovered their kids weren't actually learning how to read, but there are many other equally dopey schools out there.
Play Mountain Place describes itself as "a progressive alternative humanistic play-based preschool and elementary school located in Los Angeles, California." Children are not pressured in any way - they can wear diapers for as long as they like, for instance. Classes take place primarily outside and part of the curriculum includes petting animals.
Well underwear and pants are just another form of oppression by the Man.
9 Chilling TV Ads From the First Dot-Com Bubble
Heh I remember most of these from the 2000 Super Bowl I think. What's amazing is how fast they all dried up after dropping so much money on ads. Some were gone even before the next quarter.
Clearly you want to be traveling aboard the old NCC-1701.
They should have these at amusement parks.
Yahoo group. That is all.
And my Twitter spew.
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Posted by: Secundus at June 28, 2012 06:12 PM (P+Rq+)
That should read "life expectancy from birth".
Infant and child mortality at the time was horrendously high. It greatly reduced the "average" life expectancy.
If you lived into adulthood, your life expectancy was well into the sixties.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 28, 2012 06:12 PM (UTq/I)
Accidentally cutting my hand on a smashed bottle of Valu Rite, I will bleed out waiting behind a bevy of "economic refugees" in an emergency room here in MA.
Yay RomneyCare. Can't wait for ObamaKare.
FU Roberts!
Posted by: some Moron at June 28, 2012 06:12 PM (QlKw/)
Posted by: robtr at June 28, 2012 06:14 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 28, 2012 06:14 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 28, 2012 10:14 PM (BAS5M)
He's deaf.
Posted by: Ward of the State #3673295A at June 28, 2012 06:17 PM (fWqsc)
Yes, I've read my share of Victorian literature...
Anyway, it's awesome that we're amnestying all these illegal aliens AND are getting a state-directed healthcare system. Now the Americans can be sensible to the joys of consumption, too!
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at June 28, 2012 06:17 PM (QTHTd)
Frankly I am shocked at how few people croaked from intemperance, 2???
Obviously they didn't have value rite back in the day.
Posted by: uncle joe at June 28, 2012 06:17 PM (nfaaW)
First, because I never expected it to get overturned. I knew the Court didn't have the balls for that.
Second, because I hate legislation by litigation. It shouldn't be overturned by a court, it should be repealed by Congress. Make it clear to the libs that this is the will of the fucking people. They tend to forget about that.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 28, 2012 06:17 PM (tggDG)
Sure, but when the f*ck do they ever repeal anything?
Posted by: Ward of the State #3673295A at June 28, 2012 06:18 PM (fWqsc)
Posted by: huerfano at June 28, 2012 06:18 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 28, 2012 06:18 PM (+iR5Y)
Posted by: Secundus at June 28, 2012 06:19 PM (P+Rq+)
Posted by: Justice Roberts at June 28, 2012 06:19 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Whatever at June 28, 2012 06:20 PM (cdMEE)
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IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
Posted by: The NEA's Slogan at June 28, 2012 06:20 PM (AUeaU)
The USS Constitution from 1794 disagrees.
Yes, it's mostly ceremonial. But the sucker does make it out of port. Occasionally.
The British have a couple ship from the same era "in commission" as well. HMS Victory - 1759.
Posted by: Al at June 28, 2012 06:20 PM (MzQOZ)
Posted by: irongreampa at June 28, 2012 06:20 PM (SAMxH)
That list is obviously racist - WTF is "White Swelling"
Posted by: uncle joe at June 28, 2012 06:21 PM (nfaaW)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 28, 2012 06:21 PM (J5tI6)
Posted by: Ward of the State #3673295A at June 28, 2012 06:22 PM (fWqsc)
Posted by: Adriane at June 28, 2012 06:22 PM (qmMAj)
In case you have not noticed, Strategy Page is know-it-all and often full of shit.
Posted by: comatus at June 28, 2012 06:22 PM (ZOlM3)
Posted by: cheshirecat at June 28, 2012 06:22 PM (6MDhn)
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 28, 2012 10:17 PM (tggDG)
The problem here is the SCOTUS just gave Congress new power to go apeshit on th country. A decision our way would have prevented that.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 06:22 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 06:22 PM (bxiXv)
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As I have always said I preferred Dick
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 28, 2012 06:22 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: cheshirecat at June 28, 2012 06:23 PM (6MDhn)
Posted by: steevy at June 28, 2012 06:23 PM (Xb3hu)
They lost a shitload on every sale just from the shipping costs. Pet food isn't exactly lightweight
Posted by: kbdabear at June 28, 2012 06:23 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at June 28, 2012 06:23 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 28, 2012 06:24 PM (+iR5Y)
Hmmm.... on the drawn to scale.... No Babylon 5? or would it just make everything else look too small...
Und of course... you all know Dick Cheney was really Centauri... its the only way to explain his huge....
Posted by: Llando Molari at June 28, 2012 06:24 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 06:24 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: US Constitution at June 28, 2012 06:24 PM (QlKw/)
The stimulus had to go somewhere... Posted by: cheshirecat at June 28, 2012 10:23 PM
Woohoo!
Posted by: Newt Gingrich at June 28, 2012 06:24 PM (bAGA/)
And then come back to the computer.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 06:25 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at June 28, 2012 06:25 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at June 28, 2012 06:25 PM (KCvsd)
Posted by: US Constitution at June 28, 2012 10:24 PM (QlKw/)
Nope you were decomissioned today.
Posted by: robtr at June 28, 2012 06:26 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: irongreampa at June 28, 2012 10:20 PM (SAMxH)
That's why the phrase oldest active ship was used. There are a few ships from the 1700s that are still commissioned but they're used only as museums today.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 28, 2012 06:26 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 06:26 PM (ejmiE)
Breitbart would have said get up, dust ourselves off, run right back into battle
And win one for the Gipper
Posted by: kbdabear at June 28, 2012 06:26 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 06:27 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 28, 2012 06:27 PM (jucos)
well yeah, not to say that their business model didn't suck, but it was still fun. They had a great ad campaign.
Mostly I associate things like pets.com to a time when things were better, or at least seemed that way. We weren't in debt up to our eyeballs, we didn't have an outright Marxist in charge, we hadn't yet realized we were at existential war with radical Muzzies, the economy was going well (so what if it was a dot-com bubble), movies didn't seem to suck as bad as they did today, Friends and Seinfeld could actually be funny, and while I was more militantly libertarian at that time than I am now, I thought the biggest threat to our liberty was the drug war. Now, the drug war, even though it has grown, is about #972 on the list of threats to our liberty.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2012 06:27 PM (LK3ef)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 28, 2012 06:27 PM (+iR5Y)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at June 28, 2012 06:27 PM (KCvsd)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 28, 2012 06:27 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: comatus at June 28, 2012 06:28 PM (ZOlM3)
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2012 06:29 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 28, 2012 10:26 PM (pAlYe)
The Constitution (the ship , not the other one) is still active. They still train annapolis cadets on it.
Posted by: robtr at June 28, 2012 06:29 PM (MtwBb)
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One battle? We have 5 SC justices who believe their are *no* restrictions on what the government can do. And a Republican party that choose one of those five.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 28, 2012 06:29 PM (AUeaU)
For sex? dinner? Star Trek role playing (i.e. both)? More details may be needed ...
Posted by: Adriane at June 28, 2012 10:22 PM (qmMAj)
A few nights ago, the subject of Marillion came up, and I said I was going Friday. I'm not going Friday.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 06:29 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: cheshirecat at June 28, 2012 06:30 PM (6MDhn)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 28, 2012 10:27 PM (Z9EHQ)
No, I"m on it right now in fact.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 06:30 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 28, 2012 06:30 PM (JMmQ9)
Yeah, it was totally OK for the FLOTUS to dictate election procedures after the fact but not at all OK for SCOTUS to do so.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 28, 2012 06:31 PM (J5tI6)
Current status
HMS Victory is still in commission as the flagship of the Second Sea Lord in his role as Commander in Chief of the Royal Navy's Home Command (CINCNAVHOME). She is the oldest commissioned warship in the world, although the USS Constitution, launched 30 years later, is the oldest commissioned warship still afloat. Victory attracts around 350,000 visitors per year in her role as a museum ship.
The westernmost entrance to the Royal Navy's facility in Portsmouth, HMS Nelson, is known as Victory Gate.
The current and 99th commanding officer is Lt-Cdr DJ 'Oscar' Whild Royal Navy, who assumed command on 1 September 2008.[6]
A historical relic of the origins of the Royal Navy requires all naval personnel to serve 'afloat', unlike the other two major services, the Army and the Royal Air Force which can be required to serve 'ashore or afloat'. As a consequence all Royal Naval shore establishments are designated as commissioned warships (and are known as "Her Majesty's Ship <whatever>"). Royal Naval personnel who are attached to a non naval establishment for any reason, are recorded as serving aboard HMS Victory.
(I thought the ironclad, HMS Warrior was still active but it's owned by a historical board and is designated a museum now. Apparently you can hire it as a wedding venue too.)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 28, 2012 06:31 PM (nrW1y)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 06:31 PM (ejmiE)
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It is interesting to ponder if the debates of the 90s might have gone differently if so many libertarians weren't obsessed with the drug war to exclusion of all else.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 28, 2012 06:31 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at June 28, 2012 06:31 PM (44/AS)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 28, 2012 06:32 PM (Z9EHQ)
I also find the decrease in deaths by "accidents" from 72 to 38 to be disturbing. I blame it on warning labels. If you are too stupid to know that using a toaster in the bathtub is dangerous, then you shouldn't be alive to lower the average IQ.
Posted by: elliot at June 28, 2012 06:32 PM (3caZC)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 06:32 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 28, 2012 06:32 PM (+iR5Y)
Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at June 28, 2012 06:32 PM (N/WI2)
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 06:32 PM (HWUv9)
I was able to hit the Romney donate button earlier... but now am having trouble ordering a yard sign.
Anybody else having trouble with the store (non-donate) part of his website?
Posted by: knob at June 28, 2012 06:32 PM (54hYa)
I don't think so. The sailing crew are all volunteer ratings, not cadets.
Now USCG on the other hand -- those are some pretty hard boys.
Their academy makes all the others look like leave.
Posted by: comatus at June 28, 2012 06:33 PM (ZOlM3)
Posted by: Deli LLama at June 28, 2012 06:33 PM (uv9eO)
61 This is good stuff. It being payday, I gave a hundo myself. I was pretty bummed this morning, but then I realized: WE CAN'T BE LIKE THAT "DEMOCRACY DIED TONIGHT!!#!!!!111" GUY FROM WISCONSIN. We can't quit. Other than this one decision, the world is going our way and we can't step off their goddamned throats for one second!
Posted by: DanInMN at June 28, 2012 09:22 PM
Posted by: kbdabear at June 28, 2012 06:33 PM (Y+DPZ)
I replied to you on the last thread, but I suspect you were already gone - yes, I'm the 'ette who gave you a ride to the Berzerkeley Moron Meet-Up when Gabe was out here.
I was the only woman, but not the only person wearing a skirt - though, technically, the guy was wearing a utilikilt.
What's up?
Posted by: Dianna at June 28, 2012 06:34 PM (mKMj1)
If you don't, you can let the IRS anally violate you.
The choice is really all yours.
Posted by: Justice Roberts at June 28, 2012 06:35 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 28, 2012 06:35 PM (jucos)
Posted by: elliot at June 28, 2012 06:35 PM (3caZC)
They're siding with Obama-Roberts.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at June 28, 2012 06:35 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 06:36 PM (bxiXv)
Second?
Posted by: cthulhu
I replied to you on the last thread, but I suspect you were already gone - yes, I'm the 'ette who gave you a ride to the Berzerkeley Moron Meet-Up when Gabe was out here.
I was the only woman, but not the only person wearing a skirt - though, technically, the guy was wearing a utilikilt.
What's up?
Posted by: Dianna at June 28, 2012 10:34 PM (mKMj1)
I've got a pair of Marillion tix I won't be using tomorrow night. Want 'em?
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 06:36 PM (kaalw)
Not yet, but only because I haven't had time. I'm pretty sure that, when I get a chance to order stuff this weekend, it will be impossible. Every other irate taxpayer in the entire country will be trying to buy Romney swag.
Posted by: Dianna at June 28, 2012 06:36 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 28, 2012 06:37 PM (+iR5Y)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at June 28, 2012 06:37 PM (44/AS)
Posted by: cthulhu
Sure - I'll let Rod know he's doomed to having his eardrums beaten in!
How much do we owe you, and where shall we meet?
Posted by: Dianna at June 28, 2012 06:38 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: toby928© at June 28, 2012 06:39 PM (QupBk)
2. What is the terrible thing that happened to Dick York?
3. I'm taking the day off from politics tomorrow. Work, crossword puzzles, and MST3K episodes will restore my fighting trim and then we can start winning again.
4. Hang tight, morons. There's still time for our country.
Posted by: joncelli at June 28, 2012 06:39 PM (Rioqw)
commutas
You're right, I guess I was thinking back when I was in high school.
In 1860, the Tripoli Monument was moved to the academy grounds. Later that year in August, the model of the USS Somers experiment was resurrected when the USS Constitution, now 60 years old, was pulled out of ordinary and refurbished as a school ship for the fourth-class midshipmen. She was anchored at the yard, and the plebes lived on board the ship to immediately introduce them to shipboard life and experiences
Posted by: robtr at June 28, 2012 06:39 PM (MtwBb)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lcxdfk
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 10:32 PM (bxiXv
Mines bigger 
http://www.merzo.net
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2012 06:39 PM (GULKT)
it really is a ball sucker - having roberts as a bolt out of the blue vote to uphold the mandate - but it is only one day in the fight. All things considered, it is sad we have let things go so far that we are relying on the court save our bacon. We are going to have to sack up and carry on. the elections are looking good for us and I do not think our miserable luck on this day is going to adversely affect our turnout in the election.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 28, 2012 10:32 PM
I wasn't shocked that it was upheld, I was just shocked that it was Roberts who sided with the socialists. I felt like Michael Corleone when he found out that it was Fredo who'd betrayed him
We're supposed to be conservatives who don't count on 5 people in robes to make things right for us. When you've got a turd that needs flushing, you have to pull the handle yourself
Posted by: kbdabear at June 28, 2012 06:39 PM (Y+DPZ)
And keep it in green wallpaper where it belongs, mes amis.
Posted by: zombie napoleon at June 28, 2012 06:40 PM (nrW1y)
Haha, an Ewok is representing on the 100x page.
Posted by: US Constitution at June 28, 2012 06:40 PM (QlKw/)
Posted by: US Constitution at June 28, 2012 06:41 PM (QlKw/)
Bob Dole tell Hulk about little blue pill.
Whole bottle fit in purple stretchy pants easy.
Does cause wear on stretchy pants and affects Hulk's wind drift when jumping.
Posted by: The Incredible Hulk at June 28, 2012 06:42 PM (EyTMo)
How much do we owe you, and where shall we meet?
Posted by: Dianna at June 28, 2012 10:38 PM (mKMj1)
You'll owe me a ride to the next Berkeley moron meetup, or -- if the thought of that is too horrible to contemplate -- whatever you feel like instead. I vaguely recall that you might work in PA. Which part?
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 06:42 PM (kaalw)
Liz Montgomery's dad Robert Montgomery was also on the Right, but unfortunately Liz became an activist lefty
Posted by: kbdabear at June 28, 2012 06:42 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 06:42 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: logprof at June 28, 2012 06:43 PM (TgZVh)
Posted by: Stormy at June 28, 2012 06:43 PM (8J9h2)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 06:43 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 28, 2012 06:44 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 06:44 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 28, 2012 06:45 PM (+iR5Y)
Posted by: cthulhu
I work in SF - I'm the grants administrator for a charity. I usually catch the 4:33 train out of the city and it stops in PA around 5:20 or so.
BTW, any old time there's a Moron Meet-up, we're good for rides. There's a reason we have a ginormous vehicle!
Posted by: Dianna at June 28, 2012 06:45 PM (mKMj1)
Well I have to get this off my chest.
Roberts not only made a bad decsion but he really whimped out in his opinion. When he said it wasn't his job to protect us from bad decisions that politicians make I have to ask then what the fuck is your job. Is your job to call a mandate a tax when it wasn't passed as a tax, when it probably would have never passed the senate as a tax? Or is your job that when the assholes we elect do something uncontitutional to strike it down and protect us from that. I think it was his job and he failed at it.
Sorry Roberts but you whimped out
Posted by: robtr at June 28, 2012 06:46 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 06:46 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 28, 2012 06:46 PM (5mx3x)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 06:46 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Darth Randall at June 28, 2012 06:47 PM (mV8sg)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 28, 2012 06:48 PM (+iR5Y)
Posted by: robtr at June 28, 2012 10:46 PM (MtwBb)
I think the thing that really pisses me off about Roberts, is that he had to go out of his way to find this thing Constitutional.... he had to CREATE a reason... one that was not really argued.
And.... if it is a Tax? What kind of Tax? Its not Income, or Excise, or an Impost or duty....
I guess we should call it a Roberts Tax... ie a Tax we make you pay if you don't do what we want....
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 28, 2012 06:49 PM (lZBBB)
last time democrats celebrated this hard after a health care victory they lost 60 house seats,
Also abstaining from the Holder contempt vote 300 dead Mexicans!
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at June 28, 2012 06:49 PM (nonzP)
Seconded. Even if she was old enough to be my mom. Probably the first TV actress I had a crush on.
I feel like crap today, folks. Spend almost the entire day angry, which is so not normal to me. I want to scream at my lib friends "Don't you GET it??? DON'T you???" Of course, they probably don't or just don't care. I am so freakin' frustrated. November can't get here soon enough.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 28, 2012 06:49 PM (A2LXE)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 06:50 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 06:50 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 28, 2012 06:51 PM (nrW1y)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 06:52 PM (bxiXv)
WTF, they're supposed to be NERDS. Nerds aren't supposed to screw that kind of thing up.
And they have the Sun Hawk listed twice, one too small, the other too big.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 10:50 PM (bxiXv
Probably not a babylon 5 fan and only included them out of necessity. And then there's always the possibility of contradictory information.
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2012 06:52 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 06:53 PM (ejmiE)
To me, Roberts will always be the judge who overturned the Emancipation Proclamation.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 28, 2012 06:53 PM (3yCFy)
Anyone? Anyone?
Posted by: logprof at June 28, 2012 06:53 PM (TgZVh)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 06:54 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 28, 2012 06:54 PM (+iR5Y)
Mind like a steel trap -- prone to rust and illegal in 38 states....ok, so it's been a while -- do you have any info about me lying around? Phone number (call), email address (write).....? I'd like to take this example of "morons helping morons" off the main ONT. Otherwise, suggest a communication method.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 06:54 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 28, 2012 06:54 PM (BAS5M)
The USCGS Eagle is the training ship for Coast Guard cadets. Built in Germany in the '30s it is a steel hulled tall ship.
Saw it in Baltimore, along with tall ships from Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil, Indonesia, Chile a couple weeks ago.
The Constellation is permanently moored in the harbor, and there has been some controversy about the authenticity of it. Still a nice old ship though.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 28, 2012 06:55 PM (l3vZN)
Some parts of the law have proven popular. But the insurance mandate is widely disliked.
Each time The Associated Press has asked in polls, more than 8 in 10 Americans have said the government should not have the right to require everyone to buy health insurance.
Yeah what do a bunch of mouth breathing knuckle dragging Americans know about the overreach of the law, eh Mr. Roberts?
(I can provide a link for this if anyone cares).
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 28, 2012 06:55 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 28, 2012 06:55 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Ferris Bueller at June 28, 2012 06:55 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at June 28, 2012 06:55 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: william shatner at June 28, 2012 06:56 PM (nrW1y)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 28, 2012 06:56 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 28, 2012 06:57 PM (Y+DPZ)
Anyone? Anyone?
Posted by: logprof at June 28, 2012 10:53 PM (TgZVh)
Because technically it did originate in the House, in that they took a House bill, gutted it, stuck in the Obamacare language from the Senate and then sent the whole twisted monstrosity to reconciliation. If it hadn't "originated" in the House this way it would have been much easier to find a judge to strike it down.
Posted by: joncelli at June 28, 2012 06:57 PM (Rioqw)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 28, 2012 06:57 PM (yRa5M)
Posted by: cthulhu
Give me a bit. It's kind of buried in the voluminous inbox of my life.
Posted by: Dianna at June 28, 2012 06:57 PM (mKMj1)
He said it's not the Supreme Court's job to protect Americans from the consequences of elections, and he's right. But, it's also not the Supreme Court's job to rewrite bad laws and try to shoehorn them into a thin veneer of Constitutionality.
Really was that what he said? Great, so anyone we elect can do whateverthefucktheywant regardless of the constitution.
So why the fuck do we pay him then?
Posted by: robtr at June 28, 2012 06:57 PM (MtwBb)
A Elizabeth Montgomey/eman/Barbara Eden sandwich has been a dream of mine since 1968.
Oh well.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 10:53 PM (ejmiE)
It's not too late, is it?
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 28, 2012 06:58 PM (BAS5M)
HHAhahahahHAHahahhahHAh
The only shot we had was the SCOTUS and that didn't go so well.
Everything goes in one direction and one direction only, LEFTWARD!!!
Sometimes slow, sometimes very fast, but always, always leftward.
Posted by: General Woundwort at June 28, 2012 06:58 PM (DWgdc)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 06:58 PM (bxiXv)
He squealed about not acting like a legislator as he was acting like a legislator.
I bet he drives waiters crazy.
The obvious thing for him to do was to void the law and say that if Congress were to go back and call it a tax, it would be OK. Manifestly stupid.
Of course, I think that going to law school is a negative indicator of intellect.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 28, 2012 06:58 PM (J5tI6)
I'll always think of him as the judge who uses his manroot as a Popeil pocket bag pipe.
Posted by: Berserker at June 28, 2012 06:58 PM (FMbng)
That kind of contradicts that "consequences of elections" crap Roberts wrote about today, doesn't it?
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 28, 2012 06:59 PM (3yCFy)
Posted by: joncelli at June 28, 2012 06:59 PM (Rioqw)
Posted by: ChampionCapua at June 28, 2012 06:59 PM (KZi9D)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 07:00 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 07:00 PM (bxiXv)
Because I'm thinking...yes.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 28, 2012 07:00 PM (J5tI6)
Posted by: derit at June 28, 2012 07:00 PM (ruiF1)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 28, 2012 07:01 PM (ZhEoC)
I saw Barbara Eden in "Ride the Wild Surf" this morning... I'd like to tap her back in the day... along with Yvonne Craig...
Posted by: Mjölnir the banhammer at June 28, 2012 07:01 PM (Jls4P)
He may not actually be able to *do* that, but I'd love to see their faces if he did.
Tax 100% of their salary.
It's totally constitutional.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 28, 2012 07:01 PM (J5tI6)
Sometimes slow, sometimes very fast, but always, always leftward.
Well, not everything.
Posted by: Scott Norwood and the Buffalo Bills at June 28, 2012 07:01 PM (QlKw/)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 07:02 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 28, 2012 07:03 PM (J5tI6)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 28, 2012 07:03 PM (3yCFy)
RT @PoliticsOfFear "Maybe Meghan @McCainBlogette is the future of the Republican Party after all." ~
http://pic.twitter.com/XYR5Zv8o
Posted by: kbdabear at June 28, 2012 07:04 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 28, 2012 11:01 PM (ZhEoC)
Check my link in the "Big" Section.
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2012 07:05 PM (GULKT)
Obama just tweeted that Obamacare is "Still a BFD". Seriously -> http://bit.ly/KQ4HqR -SG
Posted by: kbdabear at June 28, 2012 07:06 PM (Y+DPZ)
hi ont. Hope everyone is feeling a little better after ten or so cocktails. I will say this and then let it go. I just texted everyone on my phone list and gave them shit if they voted obama/dem. I told then they saddled their kids with debt/taxes/servitude for life.
Not heard back from a damn one of the liberal family yet.
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 07:06 PM (fHyXI)
They lied, cheated and ran against and around every procedure for passing this legislation then the Supreme Court validated the law on grounds that the
supporters of the law didn't even make.
The fix was in. It was always in.
Posted by: General Woundwort at June 28, 2012 07:07 PM (DWgdc)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 28, 2012 07:07 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: lowandslow at June 28, 2012 07:07 PM (GZitp)
Last of the Pearl Harbor fleet,
Although I expect some of its fellows light up just as bright every night underwater in Bikini Atoll.
Posted by: DaveA at June 28, 2012 07:08 PM (EyTMo)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 11:00 PM (ejmiE)
Lilac water and moth balls?
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 28, 2012 07:08 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 28, 2012 07:08 PM (XYqoq)
I'm not so sure longer life expectancy is such a great thing after today. If Taxmageddon isn't repealed I'll have to eventually cancel my health/dental/vision insurance as I won't be able to afford it.
Of course being turned into soylent green will keep someone else afloat for awhile so my life won't be a total waste.
Posted by: Cheri at June 28, 2012 07:08 PM (Ojgzr)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/7wy9cr6 (Foxnews link)
Of course, there just might a dab of fraud involved.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 28, 2012 07:08 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 28, 2012 07:08 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Dianna at June 28, 2012 07:09 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: william shatner at June 28, 2012 07:09 PM (nrW1y)
Obama just tweeted that Obamacare is "Still a BFD". Seriously -> http://bit.ly/KQ4HqR -SG
Posted by: kbdabear at June 28, 2012 11:06 PM (Y+DPZ)
President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho has spoken
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 07:10 PM (fHyXI)
Posted by: CDR M at June 28, 2012 07:10 PM (EFzYw)
Cthulhu? I know I have it. Somewhere.
Posted by: Dianna at June 28, 2012 10:59 PM (mKMj1)
I don't intend to cause you unnecessary stress.....if it isn't reasonably close to the top of the pile, we could go for some plan B sort of thing. Is there anything in the Yahoo group, for instance? -- if I remember how to get in there....
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 07:11 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: USS Diversity at June 28, 2012 10:53 PM (cjTjM)
I wasn't always so soft...
Posted by: USS Diversity's Liver at June 28, 2012 07:11 PM (LK3ef)
Posted by: Keir Dullea at June 28, 2012 07:11 PM (KZi9D)
Posted by: EROWMER at June 28, 2012 07:12 PM (sIm3i)
Maybe John "I Cannot Lie" Lewis will go with her while phantoms spit on him
Posted by: kbdabear at June 28, 2012 07:12 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 07:12 PM (bxiXv)
Bikini is where the German battlecruise Prinz Eugen ended up. She was the only major warship to survive and was a spoil of war and used in the A bomb test.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 28, 2012 07:12 PM (l3vZN)
I'm pretty sure it's based on click-thrus.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 28, 2012 07:12 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: The Political Hat of The Very Big Corporation of America at June 28, 2012 07:13 PM (XYqoq)
Oh, and the little Marxist in training need to be spanked hard and their parents horsewhipped.
I guess that I'm not in the frame of mind to post right now either. Shit.
Posted by: Cheri at June 28, 2012 07:13 PM (Ojgzr)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 28, 2012 07:14 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: CDR M at June 28, 2012 07:14 PM (EFzYw)
Don't sweat it - I'm the world's worst for this sort of thing.
Plan B would be...um. I dunno.
Let me try the yahoo group. I haven't signed in at Yahoo in forever, I don't know if I've still got an active account.
Posted by: Dianna at June 28, 2012 07:14 PM (mKMj1)
Coming soon, now that penalty taxes have been given the green light:
Bachelor tax: Never married males aren't paying their fair share towards the upkeep and support of baby mommas and their bastard offspring. Previously married but now unattached males pay a reduced tax.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 28, 2012 07:16 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 11:00 PM (ejmiE)
http://tinyurl.com/7x5lmjk
Oh, I don't know . . . . . (wait for it, wait for it)
I'D HIT IT!!!!
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 28, 2012 07:18 PM (CP+yl)
Cthulhu, it's a great offer, but let's leave it be. I will still be available for a ride to any and all Moron Meet-ups.
Posted by: Dianna at June 28, 2012 07:18 PM (mKMj1)
Actually the Japanese Battleship Nagato was there (sunk during test shot Baker), and the Sakawa (sunk by test shot Able)
Posted by: Mjölnir the banhammer at June 28, 2012 07:18 PM (Jls4P)
Full disclosure: in high school, I was friends with the guy who would go on to write and direct the Pets.com commercials.
Among a great many other things.
Posted by: Lewis at June 28, 2012 07:18 PM (UB1pV)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2012 07:19 PM (LK3ef)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 07:20 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Avi at June 28, 2012 07:20 PM (51xVX)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2012 07:20 PM (LK3ef)
Posted by: chemjeff
Extra penalties for yipping ankle biters?
Our neighbors have a pack of chihuahuas. I don't really dislike my neighbors, but I've come to despise those dogs.
Posted by: Dianna at June 28, 2012 07:21 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 07:22 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 28, 2012 07:22 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Fox2! at June 28, 2012 07:24 PM (RJOgX)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 28, 2012 07:24 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 28, 2012 07:24 PM (CP+yl)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 28, 2012 07:24 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 28, 2012 07:25 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 07:25 PM (ejmiE)
Well Roberts just gave the government unlimited taxing power. That was settled a long time ago in Baily V Drexall Furniture. The court ruled congress could not use it's taxing power as a penalty. The equal protection clause speaks to that.
If they wanted to tax us to pay for somebody who refused to buy HC they could but they would have to tax all of us. They could give us a deduction if we had HC and it would be legal.
They don't have to do that anymore. They can tax your behavior without taxing everyone. Equal Protection be damned. They could tax you for being a republican under Roberts new found congressional powers in the constitution.
Posted by: robtr at June 28, 2012 07:25 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 28, 2012 07:26 PM (CP+yl)
Nah, AllahP debunked that particular argument tonight. Gun ownership is already protected by the 2nd, so that right can't be unreasonably infringed.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 28, 2012 07:26 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 07:27 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 28, 2012 11:26 PM (CP+yl)
Bonus feature, not a bug.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 28, 2012 07:27 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat at June 28, 2012 07:27 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 07:27 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Hummingbird at June 28, 2012 07:28 PM (R5yLq)
And apparently all of you are wealthy enough to waste away all this time on the HQ, so everytime you refresh the ONT it's gonna cost you big!
Posted by: Uncle Sam, getting ready to you the reach around at June 28, 2012 07:29 PM (QlKw/)
Roberts has cleared the way for that, too!
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 28, 2012 07:30 PM (3yCFy)
Today is the day that we have to take things in our hands... if you have the cash, DONATE.... if you have the time, VOLUNTEER... do something to make Choomer a one-term POTUS!
We may never know what Roberts was thinking when he sided with the libs on the court - and may never find out. Everytime that a POTUS nominates someone for the SCOTUS, there is always the possibility that votes like this will happen. The court has voted one way on issues in the past, then done a 180 years down the road... but we can effect change in the matter of a few short weeks.
Sack up, bitches.... the real battle is on November 6th!
Posted by: Mjölnir the banhammer at June 28, 2012 07:30 PM (Jls4P)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 07:30 PM (bxiXv)
The US Constitution, on the other hand...
WTF is up roonz and roonettez?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at June 28, 2012 07:30 PM (yh0zB)
The Prinz Eugen was at both tests, and survived them. Later she was towed to another atoll......Kwajalein?.....and sank there.
I guess the Krauts knew how to build a sturdy ship.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 28, 2012 07:31 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 07:31 PM (ejmiE)
I've already seen a p-shop: 'Fast and Furious - Still a BFD'
Posted by: Retread at June 28, 2012 07:31 PM (I2fq9)
Hi, all. Since it's such a no good, horrible, terrible, very bad day, I thought I'd share this good 'un from teh email:
*A Scottish Soldier, in full dress uniform, marches into a pharmacy.
> *
> *Very carefully he opens his sporran
> and pulls out a neatly folded cotton bandana,
> unfolds it to reveal a smaller silk square handkerchief, which he also unfolds -
> to reveal a condom.
> *
> *The condom has a number of patches on it.
> *
> *The chemist holds it up and eyes it critically.
> *
> *"How much to repair it?' The Scot asks the chemist.
> *
> *"Six pence" says the chemist.
> *
> *"How much for a new one?"
> *
> *"Ten pence" says the chemist.
> *
> *The Scot painstakingly folds the condom into the
> silk square handkerchiefband the cotton bandana, replaces it carefully in his sporran, and marches out of the door, shoulders back and kilt swinging.
> *
> *A moment or two later the chemist hears a great shout go up outside, followed by an even greater shout.
> *
> *The Scottish soldier marches back into the chemists
> and addresses the proprietor, this time with a grin on his face.
> *
> *"The regiment has taken a vote," he says.
> *
> *“We'll have a new one."*
Posted by: RushBabe at June 28, 2012 07:31 PM (tQHzJ)
Posted by: Hummingbird at June 28, 2012 11:28 PM (R5yLq)
There is an article in the Seattle Times about it tonight. We not only can't afford it, we are short about 3,000 doctors and the ones we have have all said they are not taking anymore medicaid patients.
So we get a $500 billion tax, our premiums go up 7% a year, our state taxes will go up to pay the 10% we have to kick in and after we do all that? We won't be able to get in to see a fucking doctor.
Posted by: robtr at June 28, 2012 07:31 PM (MtwBb)
Taxes will be applied depending on what card you draw when April 15 arrives. Moving about may or may not result in penalties and/or benefits accruing.
the ability to buy or sell will depend solely on your cash on hand and your location in space and time.
Those who go bankrupt will be liquidated. And I do mean LIQUIDATED.
Population overload; solved.
economic uncertainty; guaranteed
winners and losers government selected; check
How does that differ from the conditions that just became the norm?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 28, 2012 07:32 PM (CP+yl)
Whatever happened to equal treatment under the law? Was that even addressed?
Posted by: navybrat at June 28, 2012 07:33 PM (LRY2r)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 07:34 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: navybrat at June 28, 2012 11:33 PM (LRY2r)
Nope it was totaly ignored, that part of the ink on the constitution must have faded.
Posted by: robtr at June 28, 2012 07:34 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 28, 2012 07:35 PM (1zwZo)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 07:36 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: robtr at June 28, 2012 07:37 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 28, 2012 07:37 PM (CP+yl)
Posted by: Peaches at June 28, 2012 07:38 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 07:38 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 28, 2012 07:39 PM (CP+yl)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 07:40 PM (ejmiE)
I don't disagree with what you are saying. I too think the barn door is wide open, the horses have split, the building is on fire, and Roberts just handed out a gasoline filled fire extinguisher as the cure for it all.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 28, 2012 07:40 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 28, 2012 07:40 PM (JMmQ9)
And, um, Eric? Fuck you, you seedy little shitbag
Posted by: Peaches at June 28, 2012 07:40 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Barack Obama, Shish Ka-puppy Connoisseur at June 28, 2012 07:40 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: Bomber at June 28, 2012 07:40 PM (Nev4X)
Posted by: Peaches at June 28, 2012 07:42 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Fox2! at June 28, 2012 07:42 PM (RJOgX)
Posted by: Riften Guard at June 28, 2012 07:43 PM (+Myj9)
Oh, don't do that. We're doing pretty well.
(and we hate Paul Krugman)
Posted by: Estonia at June 28, 2012 07:43 PM (QlKw/)
It is.
Posted by: the chicken at June 28, 2012 07:44 PM (nrW1y)
Posted by: Bomber at June 28, 2012 07:45 PM (Nev4X)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 07:45 PM (bxiXv)
Sorry, I did some shorthand...only German major unit to survive the war.
I am a lazy typist sometimes.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 28, 2012 07:46 PM (l3vZN)
Friend --
It's been a good day.
But this is a three-step process.
1. Pass historic health care reform. Check.
2. Get affirmation from the highest court in the country. Check.
Step three? Win the damn election.
Mitt Romney has been clear he'd repeal Obamacare on Day One. Just another reminder of how much is at stake in November.
Donate $3 or more today:
Let's go,
Messina
Jim Messina
Campaign Manager
Obama for America
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 07:46 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 28, 2012 07:46 PM (1zwZo)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 28, 2012 07:47 PM (xhupI)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 28, 2012 07:47 PM (Asr6U)
I hope they all get herpes. On their tongues, too. Shitbirds.
Posted by: Peaches at June 28, 2012 07:47 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Bomber at June 28, 2012 07:48 PM (Nev4X)
Wait'll you see the tax for NOT doing that!
Posted by: IRS at June 28, 2012 07:49 PM (xhupI)
USS Constitution = unsinkable.
US Constitution = torpedoed.
I forsee no further pudding purchases from this day forward.
Posted by: GT 5.0 at June 28, 2012 07:51 PM (3W1+C)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 07:52 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Zakn at June 28, 2012 07:52 PM (7F9i5)
Posted by: John Roberts' Cosmoline-Soaked Brain at June 28, 2012 07:53 PM (bxiXv)
"Vote for Romney as he represents the only non-zero chance that this goes away,......"
That pretty well sums it up.
Now I'm going to crack open a beer, my first of the day but probably not the last, and watch a movie. With explosions in it.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 28, 2012 07:53 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Hummingbird at June 28, 2012 07:53 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Peaches at June 28, 2012 07:53 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 28, 2012 07:54 PM (1zwZo)
Posted by: Barack Obama, Shish Ka-puppy Connoisseur at June 28, 2012 07:55 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 28, 2012 11:47 PM (Asr6U)
Entropy. Same reason water doesn't flow uphill.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 07:55 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Bomber at June 28, 2012 07:55 PM (Nev4X)
Posted by: Barack Obama, Shish Ka-puppy Connoisseur at June 28, 2012 07:55 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 07:56 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2012 07:56 PM (LK3ef)
Posted by: Peaches at June 28, 2012 07:56 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Bomber at June 28, 2012 07:57 PM (Nev4X)
Posted by: The Dude at June 28, 2012 07:58 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Bomber at June 28, 2012 07:58 PM (Nev4X)
Well sure, you work for lawyers. There's now about to be 10,000 court cases to decide which tax is really a mandate, which mandate is really a tax, which penalty is not a mandate, which penalty is really a mandate but is not a tax, which penalty is a mandate but is also a tax... You'll have a job forever!
Congrats on the raise!
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2012 07:59 PM (LK3ef)
Posted by: AD at June 28, 2012 08:00 PM (lVn9q)
We may never know what Roberts was thinking when he sided with the libs on the court - and may never find out. Everytime that a POTUS nominates someone for the SCOTUS, there is always the possibility that votes like this will happen.
One of our intrepid morons earlier posted a piece on John Roberts' not-so-conservative background. He worked a pro-bono case that was "essential" to getting some gay-marriage legislation through the system. I'd post it, but bitly says I didn't save it.
Steve Schmidt, ex-Bushie, McCain Campaign mastermind and smearer of the Huntress of Wasilla, is credited/blamed with pushing Roberts to the W Admin for the nomination. He didn't have much if any of a paper trail, which has come back to bite us in the collective arse.
Posted by: RushBabe at June 28, 2012 08:01 PM (tQHzJ)
Posted by: Peaches at June 28, 2012 08:02 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 08:02 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 28, 2012 08:02 PM (1zwZo)
It says here you're fucked up, you talk like a fag and your shit's retarded. Mr. President.
Posted by: Keir Dullea at June 28, 2012 11:11 PM (KZi9D)
Attorney General: Water? Like out of the toilet?
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 08:03 PM (fHyXI)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 28, 2012 08:05 PM (HVXTC)
I was just thinking out loud after Stuck explained how the ruling worked. That might be a good way to explain it to some of your liberal friends on facebook. Use a better scenario of course
Posted by: Hummingbird at June 28, 2012 08:06 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Peaches at June 29, 2012 12:02 AM (kpCLl)
My mind. Boggled. I'd be stabby if I had a commielib boss. It's bad enough that the high order of the muckety-mucks are left wing stinking pinkos around here.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at June 28, 2012 08:07 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 28, 2012 08:08 PM (1zwZo)
Posted by: Bomber at June 28, 2012 08:08 PM (Nev4X)
Posted by: Peaches at June 28, 2012 08:09 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at June 28, 2012 08:10 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 28, 2012 08:10 PM (nrW1y)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 29, 2012 12:05 AM (HVXTC)
when you try to say that today was good for us, yeah.
that being said, I'm a pessimist and came into the whole that it wasn't going to get overturned so I gambled and made some sweet loot so I guess it was technically a good day for my bank account
Posted by: The Dude at June 28, 2012 08:10 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 28, 2012 08:11 PM (HVXTC)
Posted by: Bomber at June 28, 2012 11:55 PM (Nev4X)
Aww, beautiful family. God Bless.
Grand Canyon is awesome. Camped on the North rim, was really beautiful, and something everyone should see.
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 08:11 PM (fHyXI)
Posted by: indigo child at June 28, 2012 08:12 PM (YStTm)
And, GGE, he can't switch horses at this point (he's in his 60s, as am I). I was out of work for almost 2 years before he offered me a job. A pretty good one, that I enjoy and allows me to live. He's made his whole life as a Dem (former Chair of the CA GOP, among many many other things). I just packed up about a thousand framed pics of him with presidents, senators, congresscritters, kingmakers, a pope (yes). I just don't give a shit, we all need to eat. He has young children, he's smart and funny and he treats me very well. If it weren't for him, I'd be living in my Jeep.
Posted by: Peaches at June 28, 2012 08:13 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: homer simpson at June 28, 2012 08:13 PM (nrW1y)
Posted by: Tony! Toni! Toné! at June 28, 2012 08:14 PM (XYqoq)
Conservative Crank: If you're still reading, I offer you a few links (remove saces first) on blood pressure during exercise, that might interest you.
Gabe Mirkin, M.D., writing at www.drmirkin.com/ heart/exercise_blood_pressure.html , lists 200/80 as normal during running, and 300/200 during leg presses.
www.livestrong.com/ article/ 324351-what-is-a-good-blood-pressure-during-exercise/ also quotes Mirkin.
http:// hyper.ahajournals.org/content/39/3/761.full is a detailed study from Japan. Some of their data lists 180-190/xxx.
Posted by: Arbalest at June 28, 2012 08:15 PM (yRa5M)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 28, 2012 08:16 PM (1zwZo)
Ah, bebe, I'm so sorry to hear that (and the big shouty "i don't care" was not about you). I don't know what to say except that I will keep you, and your mom, in my prayers. You know I just went through this, and you have my email if you need a shoulder. {{{{{{bebe}}}}}}
Posted by: Peaches at June 28, 2012 08:16 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 28, 2012 08:18 PM (LK3ef)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 08:18 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 08:18 PM (fHyXI)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 28, 2012 08:18 PM (1zwZo)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 28, 2012 08:19 PM (5mx3x)
Posted by: Alex Stephens at June 28, 2012 08:20 PM (1/13k)
Those Meddling Kids.
Posted by: Lewis at June 29, 2012 12:18 AM (UB1pV)
Those Meddling Kids. Get off my fucking lawn, trio.
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 08:20 PM (fHyXI)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 28, 2012 08:21 PM (HVXTC)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 28, 2012 08:21 PM (1zwZo)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 28, 2012 08:23 PM (HVXTC)
Posted by: Bomber at June 28, 2012 08:24 PM (Nev4X)
Posted by: Hummingbird at June 28, 2012 08:24 PM (R5yLq)
Inspector Asshole, you might take some small solace, as did I, that 17 Dems voted to hold Holder in contempt.
And, all, God bless and good night. Love you guys and we will fight like honey badgers and we WILL win in November.
Posted by: Peaches at June 28, 2012 08:25 PM (kpCLl)
And his little sister is a trip. I wish I had some recent video of her.
Posted by: Bomber at June 28, 2012 08:26 PM (Nev4X)
Posted by: Peaches at June 28, 2012 08:26 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 28, 2012 08:27 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 29, 2012 12:25 AM
Would you expect anything different from a classless grifter?
Posted by: Berserker at June 28, 2012 08:28 PM (FMbng)
Now she's got enough hair that it's starting to curl.
Posted by: Bomber at June 28, 2012 08:30 PM (Nev4X)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 29, 2012 12:25 AM (fHyXI)
Seriously? That surprises you?
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 29, 2012 12:27 AM (bxiXv)
Yeah it really did, I thought he would contain his narcissim after the first fucking ego tweet. Stupid ass me.
It will be gone, probably is as we speak.
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 08:30 PM (fHyXI)
Posted by: Hummingbird at June 28, 2012 08:31 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: SCoaMF at June 28, 2012 08:32 PM (QlKw/)
...And...is selling the Tshirt for reelection $$$...(!)
No class. No dignity. No respect.
Posted by: Palookaville Peasant at June 28, 2012 08:32 PM (szPD/)
He just can't help himself
OTOH, look what the gloating that SCOAMF and Nanny Botox did in 2010 got them
Posted by: kbdabear at June 28, 2012 08:33 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Peaches at June 28, 2012 08:33 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Donna V. at June 28, 2012 08:33 PM (EflcN)
...And...is selling the Tshirt for reelection $$$...(!)
No class. No dignity. No respect.
Posted by: Palookaville Peasant at June 29, 2012 12:32 AM (szPD/)
NFW.
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 08:34 PM (fHyXI)
Posted by: Bomber at June 28, 2012 08:34 PM (Nev4X)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 28, 2012 08:34 PM (Asr6U)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 29, 2012 12:33 AM (Y+DPZ)
To Gods Ears.
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 08:36 PM (fHyXI)
http://tinyurl.com/7mkc9m2
Posted by: The Dude at June 28, 2012 08:36 PM (tw6Ar)
I hope that fuck Roberts gets his desired reacharounds at those DC cocktail parties.
Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at June 28, 2012 08:37 PM (iBGQ2)
Prinz Eugen survives both Able and Baker and Thursday Sauerkraut night but is unsafe to reboard and fix leaks. Radiation is blamed but leftover canned wurst in tropical heat may be also responsible.
TOO MUCH TYPING. That joke might have worked spoken but it's really a written reach.
Posted by: DaveA at June 28, 2012 08:37 PM (EyTMo)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 28, 2012 11:03 PM (3yCFy)
Whips and chains and Great Danes..
Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at June 28, 2012 08:38 PM (iBGQ2)
Posted by: Honey Badger #5 at June 28, 2012 08:39 PM (RQjPS)
Posted by: Helen Thomas, licking her lips and kneeling unsteadily at June 28, 2012 08:40 PM (iT00L)
Posted by: KZnextzone at June 28, 2012 08:40 PM (UXEgP)
Perhaps because the amazingly non-partisan Demoncraps set out to destroy anyone that won't be?
Posted by: Ward of the State #3673295A at June 28, 2012 08:40 PM (fWqsc)
Posted by: Hummingbird at June 28, 2012 08:40 PM (R5yLq)
Way! NDH linked it earlier:
227I saved it to Flicker so you don't have to go to his site:
http://flic.kr/p/cnBDuU
Disgusting, isn't it?
Posted by: Palookaville Peasant at June 28, 2012 08:41 PM (szPD/)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 28, 2012 08:42 PM (5mx3x)
Posted by: The Constitution at June 29, 2012 12:37 AM (jucos)
Gotta call threadwinner on that. Brilliant!
Posted by: Peaches at June 28, 2012 08:43 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: theCork at June 28, 2012 08:44 PM (iT00L)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 28, 2012 08:44 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: 19K - B5D at June 28, 2012 08:44 PM (qqlqB)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 28, 2012 08:45 PM (5mx3x)
Posted by: 19K - B5D, call me Gordon Freeman at June 28, 2012 08:46 PM (qqlqB)
Posted by: theCork at June 28, 2012 08:46 PM (iT00L)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 28, 2012 08:47 PM (3yCFy)
Posted by: 19K - B5D, call me Gordon Freeman at June 28, 2012 08:47 PM (qqlqB)
Posted by: theCork at June 28, 2012 08:47 PM (iT00L)
Posted by: 19K - B5D, call me Gordon Freeman at June 28, 2012 08:48 PM (qqlqB)
Posted by: booger at June 28, 2012 08:49 PM (HI6wa)
Artur Davis said it best earlier today - sad that the newest Repubican in Washington seems to be the only one who understands what he's there for.
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at June 28, 2012 08:50 PM (yK8YH)
Posted by: theCork at June 28, 2012 08:50 PM (iT00L)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at June 28, 2012 08:50 PM (Kj2QE)
Haven't read the comments, unaware of the general mood tonight. That said, the one and only thing I can control in this is my attitude. After getting laid off from MegaCorp, losing my contractor buxiness and being unemployed for over a year, I could have chosen the gloom and doom, woe is me outlook but I didn't. There's ALWAYS a bright side. One door closes another one ALWAYS opens. Todays ruling wasn't what I wanted or expected but I don't see this pulling in any additional votes for Barky but certainly see Mitt benefiting from the folks appalled with O'care. Our base will be fired up even moreso. Money bombs for R Senate candidates. And yes, now the path is clear that taxing abortionists/illegals/etc is kosher. Like Ace said, keep your eye on the prize which is November.
Plus, Holder is comtemptable.
I choose to look for the silver lining. My attitude is OK. My goal is to win in November.
Posted by: zeera at June 28, 2012 08:53 PM (XtxRN)
Posted by: Hummingbird at June 28, 2012 08:54 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: AD at June 29, 2012 12:00 AM (lVn9q)
In fact, now that I think about it--would Harriet Miers have voted to uphold this thing? I don't think so.
Screw it. Screw the accomplishments. Screw the intellectual qualifications. I'm sick of losing and getting screwed over. Harriet, I owe you an apology. I was a snob and I paid for it.
Posted by: AD at June 28, 2012 08:56 PM (uUsyW)
Posted by: theCork at June 28, 2012 08:56 PM (iT00L)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 08:56 PM (fHyXI)
Posted by: Hummingbird at June 28, 2012 09:00 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: theCork at June 28, 2012 09:00 PM (iT00L)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 09:01 PM (kaalw)
But the more I thought about, and after reading Erickson's piece, I think Robert's just handed the White House to Mittens, and probably the Senate to the GOP. By declaring it a tax, the GOP will be able to kill the whole thing through reconciliation. Plus, with Roberts joining the libs on the Court writing the majority, the Libs can't then decide to vote to overturn the repeal of the law because then they will be reversing their own ruling. Then the 4 dissenting votes can join the majority and make it a 9-0 ruling.
Posted by: MrCaniac at June 28, 2012 09:01 PM (1grxW)
Ah lad,
I was tinking of trying an Irish joke earlier as people were getting wound up but forgot it.
So those of you planning to ease the day with a wee drop take a pause for those of us who no longer can. Give it an extra taste. and say here for you ya poor bastards.
that sounds better that it reads too.
Posted by: DaveA at June 28, 2012 09:02 PM (EyTMo)
I shut off the TV the moment I saw Nancy Pelosi. It was just too much for one day.
Posted by: Hummingbird at June 29, 2012 01:00 AM (R5yLq)
Ya know, I woke up today, and really hoped for the best, but I knew something was off when Roberts voted against AZ, I had a bad feeling.Really.
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 09:04 PM (fHyXI)
I want Mitt to win to, but it's been a few decades. Have we done much about abortion? Nope. Have we done much about cutting spending on any major social programs? There's was welfare reform in the mid-90s and...that's pretty much it.
Romney's got about a year to do something about Obamacare (presuming we win the Senate; and I don't consider the fact we won't have a filibuster-proof majority a sufficient excuse--it wasn't an excuse for the Dems). If it doesn't happen by then, I don't expect much to happen for a very long time.
Posted by: AD at June 28, 2012 09:04 PM (uUsyW)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 09:05 PM (piMMO)
The difference is, I shut off the TV in 2008 -- and haven't turned it on again.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 09:06 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: 19K - B5D, call me Gordon Freeman at June 28, 2012 09:08 PM (qqlqB)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 29, 2012 01:05 AM (piMMO)
Hell no! They are progressive, aka give obama a shit load of money!
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 09:08 PM (fHyXI)
Posted by: theCork at June 28, 2012 09:08 PM (iT00L)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 09:09 PM (kaalw)
After reading Robert's incoherent AZ decision and now this inane piece of shit this morning, I believe that Michael Savage is really onto something.
Moreover, Kennedy and Scalai wanted to castrate the fucker.
Posted by: TexasJew at June 28, 2012 09:09 PM (iBGQ2)
Posted by: 19K - B5D, call me Gordon Freeman at June 28, 2012 09:10 PM (qqlqB)
Posted by: theCork at June 28, 2012 09:11 PM (iT00L)
I know if Bush had appointed, hell, me in place of Roberts, we'd be celebrating the death of Obamacare now.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 28, 2012 09:11 PM (3yCFy)
Posted by: 19K - B5D, call me Gordon Freeman at June 29, 2012 01:10 AM (qqlqB)
Tunage? I got anger by the tonnage.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 09:12 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Hummingbird at June 28, 2012 09:12 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: theCork at June 28, 2012 09:14 PM (iT00L)
Don't be so sure. Tomorrow I'm gonna issue an executive order instituting Primae Noctis.
It's cool though. It's all legal 'cause it won't be a mandate. It'll be a tax... on that ass.
Posted by: King Barry, Shortshanks at June 28, 2012 09:16 PM (QlKw/)
Posted by: Kathleen Sebelius at June 28, 2012 09:17 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 09:17 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 29, 2012 01:05 AM (piMMO)
Hell no! They are progressive, aka give obama a shit load of money!
****
I know. It sucks but after 17 years with Allstate, and a perfect driving record, I changed credit cards and forgot to change my auto-pay. By the time I figured it out, I had already missed a payment and my insurance had been cancelled. I called my agent who set up the new card and took my payment and said everything was fine. Then, last Friday, I received a call from my bank saying that I didn't have insurance on my car. WTF?!! My agent never called to tell me that despite taking my payment, and despite my driving record, and never previously missing a payment, Allstate refused to renew me. By this time, I had unknowingly been driving without insurance for 5 weeks. State Farm was excited to work up a rate for me until they learned about the gap in insurance, and turned me down flat.
So.... on to Progressive.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 09:17 PM (piMMO)
Cause me not getting laid might cause me to flip my shit so it's like some kind of preventative medicine kinda thing.
BRILLIANT!
Ladies, the line starts at the left.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 09:20 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 28, 2012 09:21 PM (GE1+K)
****
She was drunk! I'm not kidding. I was yelling about it on twitter. She was slurring her speech and losing her place and rambling like crazy... AND screwed up Brian Terry's name.
She no doubt had a few too many champagne toasts over the SCOTUS decision.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 09:22 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Lessons from the Ceramic Throne at June 28, 2012 09:23 PM (EowF3)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 09:25 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: theCork at June 28, 2012 09:25 PM (iT00L)
Then I remembered.
Darth Vader.
Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 28, 2012 09:26 PM (+XVQe)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 29, 2012 01:22 AM (piMMO)
Maybe some people really do get drunk on power. God, I hate that bitch.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 09:26 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Honey Badger #5 at June 28, 2012 09:26 PM (RQjPS)
It seems that, for whatever reason, many GOP-appointed justices turn out to be coin-flips at best
Perhaps because the amazingly non-partisan Demoncraps set out to destroy anyone that won't be?
Yes. Checking my history, since I really didn't start paying serious attention to politics until the Clinton impeachment, I see that Scalia was confirmed 98-0. After that, the Dems destroyed Bork and have made it tough on every GOP appointee since. While Clinton's and Zero's pick have sailed straight in without much fuss.
Roberts looked like a good one for a few years but has obviously drifted left, while Alito seems pretty reliable. Thomas and Scalia are the rocks, but they're getting up there and are not immortal. I really, really, really don't want Obama to appoint their replacements.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 28, 2012 09:27 PM (Asr6U)
It's incredible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml6SGY95m_w
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 09:27 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 09:29 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 28, 2012 09:30 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 29, 2012 01:27 AM (Asr6U)
I wonder if we could, I don't know, have Scalia and Thomas cryogenically frozen.
And Roberts launched on a rocket into the heart of the sun.
That fucking traitor.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 09:31 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Riding Through The Desert Looking For My Sock Named Liberty at June 28, 2012 09:31 PM (MG6Y6)
Wazzup, everybody?
Posted by: Theresa at June 28, 2012 09:33 PM (Rmto4)
Posted by: Theresa at June 29, 2012 01:33 AM (Rmto4)
trying to figure out what to spend a couple grand on
Posted by: The Dude at June 28, 2012 09:34 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 09:35 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at June 29, 2012 01:30 AM (GE1+K)
Richest, yes. Most powerful, absolutely. But freedom was what was lost today. Even repeal wouldn't undo the fact that the Federal Government is without restraint. Congress can do anything with its tax authority. SCOTUS will just rewrite laws at their leisure. And the presidency? Forget it.
Goodbye individual autonomy and free will. I live to serve my masters in the State.
All hail Godking Obama!
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 09:35 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 09:35 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: Robert at June 29, 2012 01:29 AM (4ixH5)
Its really a blessing!!!!!!!
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 09:36 PM (fHyXI)
Posted by: 19K - B5D, call me Gordon Freeman at June 28, 2012 09:37 PM (qqlqB)
Posted by: Theresa at June 29, 2012 01:33 AM (Rmto4)
Howdy, Theresa!
Not much happening here. It's just...hot.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 09:37 PM (4ixH5)
---------
So, kind of like the joke about the fellow who was born in St. Petersburg, grew up in Petrograd, married and raised his family in Leningrad, then died in St. Petersburg.
Posted by: Anachronda at June 28, 2012 09:37 PM (1c58W)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 09:38 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: 19K - B5D, call me Gordon Freeman at June 29, 2012 01:37 AM (qqlqB)
There room in there for skull-fucking leftists?
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 09:38 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: 19K - B5D, call me Gordon Freeman at June 28, 2012 09:38 PM (qqlqB)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 09:41 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: 19K - B5D, call me Gordon Freeman at June 28, 2012 09:41 PM (qqlqB)
Posted by: Zombie Don Corelone at June 28, 2012 09:41 PM (Asr6U)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 09:42 PM (ejmiE)
WRTF, I have to go camping with my hubby and his brother and three of his asshole friends and their twenty something girlfriends, because my sil bailed out? And shes pissed at me cause I told her it was not cool that she bailed out?
She hung up on me, damn.
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 09:43 PM (fHyXI)
At the very least a big reset and send it back for another vote under more honest terms. That should be just fine seeing as the balance of the House has changed a bit since the last time around.
Posted by: epobirs at June 28, 2012 09:44 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 09:44 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: epobirs at June 29, 2012 01:44 AM (kcfmt)
What I find maddening is that Roberts declares it a tax but not before saying it's not a tax for purposes of the Anti-Injunction Act.
What. The. Fuck?
Man's all fucked up on bath salts.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 09:46 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Theresa at June 28, 2012 09:46 PM (Rmto4)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 09:46 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 09:47 PM (fHyXI)
I wonder if we could, I don't know, have Scalia and Thomas cryogenically frozen.
And Roberts launched on a rocket into the heart of the sun.
That fucking traitor.
Or do a Weekend at Bernie's deal. A real sockpuppet, as it were.
As for Roberts...I like the idea that some wrote earlier, that Romney signs the repeal bill right in front of Roberts. Immediately after the Oath is taken. Preferably the after the first attempt.
Posted by: Zombie Don Corelone at June 28, 2012 09:48 PM (Asr6U)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2012 01:40 AM (kaalw)
I saw it. I thought Dianna got them.
Anyway, I have a friend who might like them.
Posted by: eman at June 29, 2012 01:42 AM (ejmiE)
Dianna would have been my first choice -- she and her BH did a kindness for me once IRL -- but they couldn't get the logistics to work. Another actual moron would be my next option, as I've had good times whenever I've met up with morons and would like to benefit the community. But it works to have a friend of a moron. This is Marillion's final concert in North America this tour.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 09:48 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Honey Badger #5 at June 28, 2012 09:48 PM (RQjPS)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 28, 2012 09:49 PM (3yCFy)
Posted by: Zombie Don Corelone at June 29, 2012 01:41 AM (Asr6U)
Ya know what, Kennedy never really worried me. Kennedy, I'm of the understanding, tends to stand up for individual rights more often than not. I imagined that the worst case scenario would be that they split the baby. Sever the mandates, torpedo those, keep the rest. Kennedy did purty good today.
Roberts is a traitor.
I mentioned this earlier in the evening but I think it's safe to say that that "conservative majority" on the court sure as shit doesn't exist. Roberts is a lefty, through and through.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 09:50 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 09:51 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: eman at June 29, 2012 01:46 AM (ejmiE)
We'll ship 'em to the arctic. Lots of cool polar bear shit for them to play with.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 09:53 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 09:53 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 28, 2012 09:53 PM (3yCFy)
Posted by: Theresa at June 29, 2012 01:46 AM (Rmto4)
It's been hot enough here to fry eggs on teh sidewalk.
Say, care for an omlette?
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 09:55 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 28, 2012 09:55 PM (3yCFy)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 09:56 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2012 01:51 AM (kaalw)
If there are taxes involved wait until you get the deal done before you bring it up.
Posted by: robtr at June 28, 2012 09:56 PM (MtwBb)
Motherfucker, turncoat, sorry had to be said!
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 09:57 PM (fHyXI)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 09:58 PM (ejmiE)
Sounds like Frank Zappa's story about his son Dweezil's birth. The nurse refused to write down that name so Zappa threw out the first names of each of the Mothers of Invention. When Dweezil saw his birth certificate many years later he was quite upset and they went to court to get it fixed.
Posted by: epobirs at June 28, 2012 09:59 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: eman at June 29, 2012 01:53 AM (ejmiE)
I. Saw. That. You. Son. Of. A. Bitch.
No. One. Laughs. At. Ste. Phen. Haw. King. And. Gets. A. Way. With. It.
Posted by: Stephen Hawking at June 28, 2012 09:59 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 10:00 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2012 01:58 AM (kaalw)
*Feels a sudden surge of MADNESS*
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 10:00 PM (4ixH5)
Damn.
Posted by: eman at June 29, 2012 01:53 AM (ejmiE)
1. Is she in SF? I'm in in the South Bay, Dianne's in the South Bay, going up the Peninsula on Friday night is a nightmare.
2. Is she proggy? If she's a Fish/Genesis/Gabriel/Porcupine Tree/Yes fan.....she'd probably be thrilled.
3. I'm hitting the sack soon.....I could get them to you "on spec" -- and you could just tell me early tomorrow that they didn't go.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 10:01 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 10:01 PM (fHyXI)
Posted by: lou's a girl at June 28, 2012 10:03 PM (fHyXI)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 10:04 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 28, 2012 10:04 PM (3yCFy)
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 10:05 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 10:05 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 10:06 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 10:08 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 10:10 PM (ejmiE)
Yep. The f'n Bizzaro Era under Lord Zero continues apace. Though in retrospect I should have been a little suspicious after Roberts botched the Arizona case on Monday.
The whole thing sucks, but that's life as a logical person in the 21st century, apparently. It seems that we can never let down our guard, ever.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 28, 2012 10:10 PM (Asr6U)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 28, 2012 10:10 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 10:11 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Hal Burton at June 28, 2012 10:11 PM (iYvMQ)
Posted by: zeera at June 28, 2012 10:13 PM (wwuGd)
Posted by: Theresa at June 28, 2012 10:19 PM (Rmto4)
Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at June 28, 2012 10:20 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 28, 2012 10:24 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: Honey Badger #5 at June 28, 2012 10:27 PM (RQjPS)
Commerce clause, necessary and proper, taxation, yadda yadda yadda...don't they ever read the rest of the fucking Constitution?
Freedom of association? Guys? Yeah? No?
Hey, what about that so called right to privacy we all have? No? Just for killing the unborn and men plowing each other up the wrong 'un? Nothing else?
We're ruled by fucking imbeciles.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 10:27 PM (4ixH5)
It seems foolish to count on Romney and a GOP-led Congress to pull a deus ex machina and repeal the law. But we are living in unprecedented times.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 28, 2012 10:27 PM (Asr6U)
Posted by: jc at June 29, 2012 02:22 AM (ufJKx)
There's no need for that kind of language, asshole, watch your fucking mouth!
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 10:28 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Gloria "Playboy Bunny" Steinem at June 28, 2012 10:28 PM (3yCFy)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 29, 2012 02:27 AM (Asr6U)
Romney seems to be going almost all in with repeal. He'll, unfortunately, seek to include some stupid ideas, possibly for the sake of seeming moderate, but I think he'll pursue it. He's not really waffled here.
Ya know, his choice of running mate is gonna have a lot more importance now.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 10:30 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Robert at June 29, 2012 02:28 AM (4ixH5)
====
I'm being deported to Sweden, but I'm not from there.
Posted by: jc at June 28, 2012 10:32 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 10:33 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: jc at June 29, 2012 02:32 AM (ufJKx)
Just as long as you're not from Australia.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 10:34 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 10:35 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Honey Badger #5 at June 28, 2012 10:37 PM (RQjPS)
Posted by: jc at June 29, 2012 02:32 AM (ufJKx)
See about getting deported to Finland, the chicks are hotter and put out more.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 10:39 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 10:49 PM (kaalw)
I think she's on Table 9 Chat, too, but I can't be sure since every time I go on my browser either crashes or is unable to bring it up.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 10:50 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 28, 2012 10:53 PM (3yCFy)
I think she's on Table 9 Chat, too, but I can't be sure since every time I go on my browser either crashes or is unable to bring it up.
Posted by: Robert at June 29, 2012 02:50 AM (4ixH5)
Ah, that "book that is faced" thingie-widget.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 10:59 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 11:11 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Zakn at June 28, 2012 11:19 PM (7F9i5)
Posted by: jc at June 28, 2012 11:22 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: Justice Roberts at June 28, 2012 11:26 PM (X3HIv)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2012 03:11 AM (kaalw)
Finally, I can get these damn pants off.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 11:28 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: jc at June 29, 2012 03:22 AM (ufJKx)
Don't worry, Obama's healing touch will cure your ills!
All you gotta do is give at least $50 bucks to his campagin and jerk him off a little.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 11:29 PM (4ixH5)
thinking of Neo Geo MVS cab or a Sega Astro City (could afford both but not the space) or some pachinko machines but I dunno
Posted by: The Dude at June 28, 2012 11:30 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Zakn at June 28, 2012 11:31 PM (7F9i5)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at June 28, 2012 11:31 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: Zakn at June 28, 2012 11:31 PM (7F9i5)
Posted by: Zakn at June 29, 2012 03:19 AM (7F9i5)
Try to think of the bright side...
And as soon as you figure out what that is you let me know.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2012 11:32 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Zakn at June 28, 2012 11:35 PM (7F9i5)
Posted by: Zakn at June 29, 2012 03:31 AM (7F9i5)
been too busy to jump back in
Posted by: The Dude at June 28, 2012 11:39 PM (tw6Ar)
After today, I'm going to need a lot more staples.
Posted by: jc at June 28, 2012 11:45 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: Zakn at June 29, 2012 03:19 AM (7F9i5)
I turn 50 this year. In 1980, I was 18 years old, and just getting acquainted with the world as it was (mind you, I was thwarted by days from being able to vote for Reagan).
We hadn't had a Republican House of Representatives since 1954 -- well before I was born. There were only three networks, and they all said the same thing so there was no reason to disbelieve them. Taxes were high and always had been -- there was a thriving industry in inventing and promoting tax shelters. We'd lost the Vietnam War, Nixon was a crook, the nation was a cesspool. And then Reagan was elected, America became a shining City upon a hill, taxes were slashed and the economy roared forward with tax receipts going UP with lower rates, we won the Cold War, took the House....and forgot how unlikely it had been, how deep in the hole we were.
Today sucks? Yeah, I'm sorry that the CJ has some deep fuckin' scheme where he can gain Washington Brownie Points by ruling against common fuckin' sense. Yeah, the blogosphere is hummin' that this sucks donkey-dongs. Yeah, the freakin' ratchet closes off freedoms bit-by-bit for the benefit of the anointed "best-and-brightest" that run brain-dead organizations like Energy, Education, Agriculture, and the EPA. We can SEE that.
We can see it, because it really isn't as bad as all that. The House was in Dem hands from 1954 to 1994. You could have been hired on to your first career job with Dems running the show, and retired with Dems still in charge. If you were curious as to what the hell those retards were doing in Washington, you could have assiduously read the newspaper.....and still not known. TV wouldn't have helped, either. If you wanted to get together with someone to make your views known.....er.....letter to the editor?
Every single time people say that today sucks.....yeah, they're right. But in the cosmic scheme of things, it's only because they're comparing it to the Reagan years. We have seen better, so what is not-as-bad seems much-worse.
Mind you, I still rate Carter as the 2nd worst President from the last 50 years....but only because he is benchmarked against the years before, and not the years after.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2012 11:55 PM (kaalw)
That is the source of my current distress. We can repeal Obamataxcare, and will, but we can't so readily repeal that precedent.
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at June 29, 2012 12:00 AM (IlZPo)
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at June 29, 2012 04:00 AM (IlZPo)
Yes, it would require a Constitutional remedy.
An amendment stating something like, "Congress shall make no law compelling the people to engage in commerce."
Also acceptable, "Congress will be required to suck off one thousand mules and swallow their seminal fluids before considering any new law."
Posted by: Robert at June 29, 2012 12:07 AM (4ixH5)
The greatest living lesson in the history of America!
November 2012.
Almost as good as the founding.
This has been along time coming.
Posted by: We the people vs. the govn't at June 29, 2012 12:07 AM (D7lJF)
Posted by: Zakn at June 29, 2012 12:10 AM (7F9i5)
Posted by: Robert at June 29, 2012 12:10 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Zakn at June 29, 2012 12:11 AM (7F9i5)
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at June 29, 2012 12:12 AM (IlZPo)
New qualification for being elected to Congress.
You gotta be on record having sucked a dick.
Like sucking off some dude on camera.
No hear-say.
I figure if you're gonna want to serve in elected office you should mean it and I think sucking a dick goes a long way towards validating that.
Posted by: Robert at June 29, 2012 12:13 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at June 29, 2012 04:12 AM (IlZPo)
I've still got a hardon for Randy Barnett's federalism amendments myself.
Posted by: Robert at June 29, 2012 12:15 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Zakn at June 29, 2012 12:15 AM (7F9i5)
That is the source of my current distress. We can repeal Obamataxcare, and will, but we can't so readily repeal that precedent.
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at June 29, 2012 04:00 AM (IlZPo)
Look -- anything that leaves Wickard as valid law is an abomination....and the fact that we had a clear shot at it and couldn't hit it is frustrating, but you work with what you've got. Congress clearly has the power to tax irresponsibly -- for instance, by putting huge advantages on home-ownership when a labor force competing globally should be mobile. Roberts' "penumbra" makes it harder to hide this.
Congress was too clever by half on the subject -- there's a "penalty" for not meeting the "mandate" that's collected by the IRS.....but it's less than a grand and non-payment cannot result in incarceration (unlike regular income tax, which can). They never called it a tax, they did everything they could to call it something else...."tax" is the poisoned chalice.
I just wish everyone would cut the bullshit and put some bright lines in there.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2012 12:17 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: Zakn at June 29, 2012 12:20 AM (7F9i5)
Posted by: Robert at June 29, 2012 04:15 AM (4ixH5)
Y'know what would give me a hardon for the commerce clause? Identify the border.
As originally stated, if a transaction occurred across a border -- national, state, or Indian tribe -- the Feds got to muck with it. Otherwise, no. So where's the border?
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2012 12:22 AM (kaalw)
In the past, they want to soak the sinners to pay for their pet programs. But this is intended to break stuff so they can replace it with their single payer version.
Good.
Stop resisting and instead stand on the gas pedal. It took the USSR 70 years to eat itself. We're Americans. We can do it far better, faster, and bigger than any Russkies. (Technically, I'm sort of a Russkie or at least a Ukie but we won WWII by having better German generals than the Nazis did, so you get where I'm going with this.)
The sooner they flame out the better, so give all the fuel they want. Instead of a US version of the NHS, we sweep aside the wreckage with the driver and willing passengers still inside and build something better. But first they need to get up to speed and be pointed at a nice solid target to test their feeling of invulnerability.
Liberals essentially have the mindset of teenagers. They stay perpetually 19 and never achieve the maturity that doesn't come until the mid-20s. (Science!) One thing teenagers are really good at is getting in a car and removing themselves from the gene pool.
P.J. O'Rourke once wrote that giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
Lets work with that.
Posted by: epobirs at June 29, 2012 12:27 AM (kcfmt)
Every single time people say that today sucks.....yeah, they're right. But in the cosmic scheme of things, it's only because they're comparing it to the Reagan years. We have seen better, so what is not-as-bad seems much-worse.
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Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2012 03:55 AM (kaalw)
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I am just a couple years in front of you, and I have to disagree on some major points ---
I became aware of politics because RFK got shot and I caught on quick that all the adults were affected in a big way. So, I was well aware when Watergate happened, and I watched hours and hours of all those damned hearings. I was listening to Sam Ervin, Howard Baker, Teh Fred, and all the rest. I remember Mike Gravel, Frank Church and all their bullshit, too.
A big part of what your analysis misses is that the Dem of yesteryear is not a Dem of today. Anyone who might actually have JFK's positions on anything would be a "far right extremist" to the modern douchebag.
Next, every Prez since OPEC has been screwed, and none of them has had an answer for it. Yeah, Reagan poured gas on the fire that Carter let burn down to just embers, but the combo of the 1981 and 1986 tax acts caused massive bankruptcies, the failure of over 1000 banks and S&L's and when Bush I had to put the Resolution Trust losses on the deficit (about $2T if I remember correctly) Perot had all the ammo he needed to get Clinton elected.
Yes, things today are totally fucked. But we got here on the steady march of idiots in an unbroken chain. The glory years were not that great.
Posted by: jc at June 29, 2012 12:28 AM (ufJKx)
I'm about your age, and I remember the LBJ "daisy" ads. That told me all I needed to know about Democrats when I was 5.
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at June 29, 2012 12:35 AM (IlZPo)
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at June 29, 2012 12:36 AM (IlZPo)
The point where I diverge from "common knowledge" is that we've seen it get better, we've seen it get worse. It is no longer possible to say, "'twas ever thus, and can be no other."
Before Reagan, that was a more difficult argument. I continue to think that Carter took a -1 to a -4, where BHO took a +1 to a -3. In terms of how bad the result....Carter erased 3 and ended up in a hellacious pit -- though started out upside-down. BHO erased 4 and took moderate success to moderate failure. But things aren't as bad today as they were back then.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2012 12:40 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2012 12:42 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: Zakn at June 29, 2012 04:20 AM (7F9i5)
Amen to that Zakn. Do we have a R candidate to oppose her yet? Damn, her and fkn Al Franken (who I share a BD with -shudder), and don't get me started on Gov Moonbat. Wassa matter wid us?
Posted by: zeera at June 29, 2012 12:45 AM (XtxRN)
Roberts not only made a bad decsion but he really whimped out in his opinion. When he said it wasn't his job to protect us from bad decisions that politicians make I have to ask then what the fuck is your job. Is your job to call a mandate a tax when it wasn't passed as a tax, when it probably would have never passed the senate as a tax? Or is your job that when the assholes we elect do something uncontitutional to strike it down and protect us from that. I think it was his job and he failed at it.
Sorry Roberts but you whimped out
Posted by: robtr at June 28, 2012 10:46 PM (MtwBb)
AMEN! We have a system of checks and balances and if the Congress passes an unConstitutional bill, it's the SCOTUS' DUTY to overturn it! The states ratified the Constitution and we expect to live under it. We don't just live under the whims of Congress.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl Hates Roberts at June 29, 2012 12:47 AM (KL49F)
I'm about your age, and I remember the LBJ "daisy" ads. That told me all I needed to know about Democrats when I was 5.
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at June 29, 2012 04:35 AM (IlZPo)
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not much changes in the slavery party, except the ways they try to hide in plain sight.
Posted by: jc at June 29, 2012 12:49 AM (ufJKx)
Yep, I hate that this enshrined a lot of weasel language.
The correct response, which the dissenters seemed to want, was to tell them "This is garbage. Go away and don't bug us with this crap again until you have a version intended to be read and understood by a person of reasonable intelligence and education with less than a week to devote to the task."
Too much legislation is intended to be incomprehensible, so 'we have to pass it to find out whats in it.'
That a member of the House actually said that and got to stay in office tells me something is direly wrong with our governance. In a sane world that quote would be a career ender.
Posted by: epobirs at June 29, 2012 12:53 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 29, 2012 01:08 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Jean at June 29, 2012 01:17 AM (RURIy)
Posted by: Zakn at June 29, 2012 01:21 AM (7F9i5)
Yep, I hate that this enshrined a lot of weasel language.
The correct response, which the dissenters seemed to want, was to tell them "This is garbage. Go away and don't bug us with this crap again until you have a version intended to be read and understood by a person of reasonable intelligence and education with less than a week to devote to the task."
Too much legislation is intended to be incomprehensible, so 'we have to pass it to find out whats in it.'
That a member of the House actually said that and got to stay in office tells me something is direly wrong with our governance. In a sane world that quote would be a career ender.
Posted by: epobirs at June 29, 2012 04:53 AM (kcfmt)
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The whole affair is embarrassing in many ways. According to some estimates, for about a 500K-1M years, there have been modern humans on this planet. For most of that time, the only thing we knew about gravity was how to fall out of a tree.
Kepler, Copernicus, Gallileo, Newton, and others between the mid 1500's and the mid 1600's changed that. By the 1970's we were able to launch spacecraft that met planets in space, used those planets as slingshots and met other planets, etc.
So, 500K years -- pretty incapable v. <500 years, able to do so much more.
Why? Because all problems are solved from the heart of the matter out to the details -- no tough problems are ever really solved in the opposite manner.
Our government is doomed to one failure after another if we never learn these lessons. 1900 pages of stupid-assed guesses is a pathetic and horrible thing and proves great and profound ignorance befitting the time between cave men and the dark ages.
Posted by: jc at June 29, 2012 01:22 AM (ufJKx)
Your tax dollars at work:
Los Angeles County Public Health's "Show Us Your Package" competition to design an official condom wrapper has a winner. It's Adam Lyons, 32, of Hollywood. His design won from among more than 500 entries. He gets $750 in gift cards and a Toshiba 19” LED television with a built-in DVD. His design, and nine semi-finalists, will be on the one million free condoms that the county of Los Angeles hopes to hand out over the next year or so.
laobserved.com
Pic - It's a lil bowtie and says "suit up".
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 29, 2012 01:32 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 29, 2012 01:32 AM (caAEA)
Posted by: Jean at June 29, 2012 01:32 AM (RURIy)
Posted by: Jean at June 29, 2012 05:32 AM (RURIy)
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we are still at amazing dumbshit. Nothing happens without the simplest possible theory that correctly explains what we see and predicts what we will see.
We have not even reached the point where people understand the value of the simplest possible statement that is correct and the complete futility of the pointlessly complex.
We are badly mis-educated and ruled by fools.
Posted by: jc at June 29, 2012 01:37 AM (ufJKx)
More random notes:
For those of you who are interested in searching the recently released 1940 Census, a number of states have been newly indexed and are available to search at:
familysearch.org/1940census/
All the West, except Texas, is up, which gives the big get of California. Florida is up too. Volunteer indexers are still hacking away at the bulk of the Eastern states.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 29, 2012 01:47 AM (kdS6q)
FFS, it's been a few decades since AIDS became a household word and we still have to spend tax payer dollars on encouraging promiscuity? In a city already on a countdown to insolvency?
Getting laid is not a right. If you cannot afford the materials for safe sex, don't have sex or take your chances. It's that simple.
The same leftys that want to make tax payers foot the bill for free condoms also pushed for ZPG programs and forced birth control, as promoted by Obama's science advisor John Holdren. Wouldn't people committing suicide via STD be fulfilling the ZPG plan?
Why give condoms to people with zero chance of breeding? If they cannot take responsibility for their own hygiene it shouldn't be anyone else's expense. You can buy condoms at ever 7-11 and AM/PM in this city 24 hours a day.
This public health over reach is really pissing me off. At what point do people take responsibility for their on behavior?
Posted by: epobirs at June 29, 2012 01:57 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: teej at June 29, 2012 01:58 AM (WY3bD)
Getting laid is not a right.
Posted by: epobirs
Maybe it's a tax? So many odd things are nowadays...
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 29, 2012 01:59 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: jc at June 29, 2012 02:01 AM (ufJKx)
He squealed about not acting like a legislator as he was acting like a legislator.
I bet he drives waiters crazy.
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 10:50 PM (ejmiE)
The one thing Conservatives hate is "legislating from the bench" and yet that's w hat Roberts did. And I have ppl on twitter and elsewhere trying to convince me tha Roberts is a "genius" who gave us a "gift". I'm sick!
Posted by: Aslan's Girl H8s Roberts & Roberts' defenders at June 29, 2012 02:14 AM (KL49F)
Posted by: teej at June 29, 2012 02:16 AM (Vdd8W)
Posted by: teej at June 29, 2012 02:39 AM (8xOfO)
Posted by: teej at June 29, 2012 02:55 AM (0SHei)
This is why I want to give them all the rope they want and accelerate the process. No need to cede good real estate if they can be induced to destroy themselves quickly enough. Let the urban hives self-immolate and still have plenty of good stuff left standing for rational people to make good use of.
Posted by: epobirs at June 29, 2012 02:58 AM (kcfmt)
Lex Luthor's real estate plan is beginning to look better and better.
Posted by: epobirs at June 29, 2012 02:59 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Justice Roberts at June 29, 2012 03:26 AM (X3HIv)
This is a brilliant move by Chief Justice Roberts to see a future Jewish homeland founded by, roughly, 1946.
Posted by: allahdavid krautfrumpundit at June 29, 2012 03:03 AM (nrW1y)
You know those scenes in bad porn where they show the orifice remaining distended long after the penetrating object has been removed?
Might as well keep that on still store until November.
Posted by: epobirs at June 29, 2012 03:03 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Stormy Weather at June 29, 2012 03:06 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Robert at June 29, 2012 03:26 AM (4ixH5)
So what do I think?
I think we got screwed. No matter which way you cut it I think Thursday's decision was a loss for American liberty. It can be, and is being, argued that there are silver linings to be found in this decision and that implementing the Affordable Care Act as a tax actually does less damage to the Constitution than if it were validated as an expression of Congress's authority to... regulate interstate commerce. Even assuming it's true, it's still a massive defeat for our liberties. The affect is the same in that people will still be forced by law to engage in activities they might have otherwise declined to engage in. There's no changing this fact, your rights as free men and women are abrogated.
Further, the sheer cowardice of Chief Justice Roberts is amazing. If he thinks bending to political pressure somehow protects the independence of the Supreme Court he is deluding himself. Roberts chose to violate his oath in order to save his own skin. And on top of that Roberts went beyond interpretation and essentially rewrote the damn statute. The wording contained in the law, apparently, meant what he wanted it to mean. It is insane.
This isn't the end. The law can still be repealed. Even if it weren't SCOTUS could still overturn it (though not with its current membership). There is also, and what I believe to be absolutely necessary at this point, a Constitutional remedy limiting Congress from further abusing its power.
We can have our rights and our Constitution restored, but we must want it.
Posted by: Robert at June 29, 2012 03:27 AM (4ixH5)
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