July 01, 2012
— Maetenloch Hope everyone enjoyed and used the hell out of that extra second we got last night.
No Progress in the War on Poverty - And There Never Will Be
For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always - Mark 14:7
So the War on Poverty has been on-going for 47 years and after untold billions spent the net effect has been...nada, zip, nothing:
"[S]ince President Obama took office [in January 2009], federal welfare spending has increased by 41 percent, more than $193 billion per year," the study says.
Federal welfare spending in fiscal year 2011 totaled $668 billion, spread out over 126 programs, while the poverty rate that remains high at 15.1 percent, roughly where it was in 1965, when President Johnson declared a federal War on Poverty.
Now if you dig down enough, you find that the federal poverty levels were basically set in 1962 as 3 times the Department of Agriculture's economy food plan for families of three or more people and have been adjusted for inflation every year since then. Which is not a terrible way of measuring poverty but also ignores the fact that the cost of food in constant dollars has actually gone down since 1962.
But the biggest reason that the poverty rate has remained unchanged is because it only measures income - not actual poverty:
The official poverty measure counts only monetary income. It considers antipoverty programs such as food stamps, housing assistance, the Earned Income Tax Credit, Medicaid and school lunches, among others, "in-kind benefits" - and hence not income. So, despite everything these programs do to relieve poverty, they aren't counted as income when Washington measures the poverty rate.
So basically the federal poverty rate reflects the number of people who are poor before they receive any charity or government benefits. And since this effect is more or less baked into the statistical cake, you can bet that the official US poverty rate circa 2050 will be around 15%.
Let the preemptive hand-wringing commence.
Feeling Down and Demoralized after The ObamaCare Decision?
Then let Dick Butkus cheer you up:
Tom Elia, who blogs at The New Editor, watches this video reel regularly to get himself in the right frame of mind for the political fight facing us
Well Butkus was a bit before my time so I only know his playing through highlight reels. But yeah after watching this I am feeling better.
With their own equipment budget and few bureaucratic restrictions special forces can buy pretty much whatever they can afford. And their choices often help determine what regular forces go with.
Special Operations pioneered the use of fused imaging systems that combine a thermal camera with night-vision light intensification in a package light enough to fit on a helmet. The monocular combines imagery from an infrared heat sensor with traditional image intensification to create an enhanced fused image with an infrared highlight. The combination enables the operator to pick up heat signatures in the distance that may be hidden behind bushes or vehicles. ...Finally, the i-Aware Fusion also allows the wearer to transmit and receive real-time color video and other battlefield information. This means that the operator could see the feed from an overhead UAV, or share imagery with other users or beam it back to a command post.
Plus the British have their spec op jeep:
Just add a bar and semi-gullible friends.
Is There a Formula For Hit Songs?
Well after analyzing over 1300 popular songs there is a formula for which chords work well together in progressions. Probably not a big surprise to anyone who's studied music theory but it is interesting to see it quantified.
Here are the most popular keys:
and the most popular chords when transposed to C - the I IV V and relative minors pretty much dominate:
June 12, 1897: The Swiss Army Gets Its Knife
[Karl Elsener], a Swiss manufacturer of surgical instruments and cutlery, was a very fashionable man indeed. So he was less than thrilled to learn that the Swiss army was importing Solingen blades from neighboring Germany. Elsener set out to develop a homegrown multifunctional tool worthy of being carried by his local Alpine troops.His prototype of what became known as the Swiss army knife appeared in 1891. The original - made with a wooden handle - included a blade, a screwdriver and a can opener. But Elsener was not happy with it and tinkered endlessly, adding a second blade using a revolutionary spring mechanism, and strengthening the housing.
The addition of a second blade necessitated extra space for the spring, which also opened up more room for other tools.
More than 34,000 Swiss army knives are manufactured every day, and small wonder. This remarkably versatile tool is standard equipment for everyone from Boy Scouts to building contractors to mountaineers. It is even carried into space aboard the space shuttle.
Oh, and every recruit in the Swiss army still receives a knife upon entering the service. Victorinox supplies the army with about 50,000 knives each year.
I carry the 4 GB version of this one daily and it's been very handy since you never know when you'll need a laser, flash drive, pen, scissors or a knife or all of them at once.
Apparently it's fairly common in Russia to have a constantly recording dash-cam in your car for legal reasons which leads to recordings like this.
Weekly AoSHQ Commenter Standings
Top 10 commenters:
1 [669 comments] 'Vic' [93.84 posts/day]
2 [402 comments] 'garrett'
3 [366 comments] 'soothsayer'
4 [328 comments] 'Niedermeyer's Dead Horse'
5 [303 comments] 'Bitter Clinger and all that'
6 [274 comments] 'steevy'
7 [269 comments] 'Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny'
8 [269 comments] 'starry'
9 [267 comments] 'tasker'
10 [262 comments] 'StuckOnStupid'
Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [73 names] 'eat chocolate' [10.24 unique names/day]
2 [73 names] 'Ed Anger Issues'
3 [63 names] 'Islamic Rage Boy'
4 [56 names] 'Cicero'
5 [54 names] 'Scobface'
6 [50 names] 'andycanuck'
7 [44 names] 'Grumpy Scalia'
8 [37 names] 'toby928?'
9 [35 names] '18-1'
10 [34 names] 'Luck has nothing to do with it'
The group. Yeah.
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Posted by: steevy at July 01, 2012 05:33 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 01, 2012 05:35 PM (nOAVk)
It was actually pretty funny. Maybe a few too many 80s pop culture references, some of which were hammered into our heads a bit much. Nice extended cameo scenes from that "New York Jets" guy, though.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 05:36 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: butch at July 01, 2012 05:40 PM (nK2Sx)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 01, 2012 05:40 PM (nOAVk)
Posted by: steevy at July 01, 2012 05:45 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 05:46 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Chief Justice Roberts at July 01, 2012 05:46 PM (bAGA/)
I will not give up.
I will take the fight to the enemy.
I am Dick Butkus.
Posted by: Splunge at July 01, 2012 05:46 PM (2IW5Q)
Posted by: buzzion at July 01, 2012 05:48 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Jean at July 01, 2012 05:49 PM (Mpktm)
Posted by: tcn at July 01, 2012 05:52 PM (eFcVx)
It was so hot today it felt like sitting in a sauna with a wet wool blanket wrapped around you.
However, when I feel like a puss, our son tells us it's 120+ in A-Stan, and he's out in full battle rattle.
Then I shut my whiny pie hole.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 01, 2012 05:52 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: teej at July 01, 2012 05:52 PM (cDwCa)
Posted by: huerfano at July 01, 2012 05:52 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: tcn at July 01, 2012 05:54 PM (eFcVx)
Posted by: buzzion at July 01, 2012 05:54 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 05:54 PM (QTHTd)
Will they run you an extension-cord for the fridge?
We were without power for 5 days after the ice-storm here in the NW, and ran the gas-generator for several hours during the day to run the fridge/well.
Our friends have an automatic propane generator that ran 24/7, so they had everything the whole time power was out.
It cost them a fortune! Propane was $3+/gal at the time.
Posted by: ChrisP at July 01, 2012 05:56 PM (626PS)
Posted by: huerfano at July 01, 2012 05:56 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: Hummingbird at July 01, 2012 05:57 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: steevy at July 01, 2012 05:58 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: mallfly at July 01, 2012 05:58 PM (NI3M5)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 05:59 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 06:00 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: teej at July 01, 2012 06:00 PM (cDwCa)
Posted by: Hummingbird at July 01, 2012 06:00 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Berserker at July 01, 2012 06:00 PM (FMbng)
Pray we don't get a huge pine tree or three through the roof.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 01, 2012 06:01 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: mallfly at July 01, 2012 06:03 PM (NI3M5)
Posted by: huerfano at July 01, 2012 06:03 PM (bAGA/)
Good luck to you.Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 06:03 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: holygoat at July 01, 2012 06:03 PM (auGuV)
Posted by: steevy at July 01, 2012 09:58 PM (Xb3hu)
Check out his only other comment on the site. Definite Moby.
http://minx.cc/?post=328552 Comment 1607
Posted by: buzzion at July 01, 2012 06:03 PM (GULKT)
Shoulda drank faster but is was so damn hot.
Hottest weekend ever. Some will say global warming.
I say ObamaTax decision is the cause of it all.
Posted by: sTevo at July 01, 2012 06:04 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Pete at July 01, 2012 06:04 PM (1c7hM)
Just think, all government statistics are prepared by someone that couldn't pass a real math class, based on incomplete data, and approved for release by someone with a political agenda. What could go wrong?
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 01, 2012 06:04 PM (i3+c5)
Lookin' at the weather radar tonight, it looks like Georgia is movin' YOU!
Georgia and the Carolinas are getting shat-upon!
Posted by: ChrisP at July 01, 2012 06:04 PM (626PS)
Posted by: DaveA at July 01, 2012 06:06 PM (864A5)
Shoulda drank faster but is was so damn hot.
Hottest weekend ever. Some will say global warming.
I say ObamaTax decision is the cause of it all.
Posted by: sTevo at July 01, 2012 10:04 PM (VMcEw)
--After 4:30 when we returned home with wine and beer I have felt better. Screw this Dallas heat; I ain't going out unless it's between 10 P.M. and dawn.
Posted by: logprof at July 01, 2012 06:07 PM (9qNZ9)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 06:13 PM (ejmiE)
What a country!
Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2012 06:13 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Ma Bell at July 01, 2012 06:13 PM (uVuwp)
What a country!
Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2012 10:13 PM (AUeaU)
don't forget the jacuzzi.
Posted by: buzzion at July 01, 2012 06:13 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Herpglerble at July 01, 2012 06:14 PM (QGwv0)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 06:15 PM (ejmiE)
Ooops, I mean another tax.
Posted by: PJ at July 01, 2012 06:15 PM (DQHjw)
Sorry.
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 10:10 PM (ejmiE)
San Francisco!
Cock! Sucka!!
Posted by: Mr. Wu at July 01, 2012 06:16 PM (9qNZ9)
Posted by: teej at July 01, 2012 06:17 PM (AiZkN)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 06:17 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 06:19 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: navycopjoe who lives in waikiki at July 01, 2012 06:19 PM (RFl8c)
Obama gas is costing me and extra $3000 bucks a year. That is my new television set. Can't justify a new car because the payment will outstrip the gas savings.
Hang in there.
Posted by: sTevo at July 01, 2012 06:20 PM (VMcEw)
What's with all that ancient filler up above? The song thing, (which is not well done) has been everywhere, as has the truck wreck. I thought I was in a time warp....
.....
Wait, maybe......
Posted by: Meremortal at July 01, 2012 06:20 PM (Usk3+)
Again...meh
Posted by: navycopjoe who lives in waikiki at July 01, 2012 10:19 PM (RFl8c)
--Yeah. San Fran is pretty, but not Hawaii pretty (and I've never even been to Hawaii).
Posted by: logprof at July 01, 2012 06:21 PM (9qNZ9)
Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2012 10:13 PM (AUeaU)"
Don't forget the Escalade with 26" rims, the flat-screen is 50", or better, section-8 housing, the X-Box, and the cell-phone with 200 minutes a month "So you can call your 'employer' and tell him you'll be late"...
Okay, that's hard to type. These folks live better than me. I am disgusted.
I'm trying not to be bitter, but it's getting tough.
Posted by: ChrisP at July 01, 2012 06:22 PM (626PS)
Posted by: sTevo at July 01, 2012 06:22 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Lauren at July 01, 2012 06:23 PM (hNLFW)
Posted by: teej at July 01, 2012 06:23 PM (cDwCa)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 01, 2012 06:24 PM (XYqoq)
On Youtube today I saw the Glove and boots Parody for "Call Me Maybe" Found it funny and it offered the cure to get the song out of you head. Here's the parody. http://tinyurl.com/7kjq4zw
And now for the actual reason to post this. Because of watching this song I discovered a different version of the Call Me Maybe song. And you are welcome fellow morons. http://tinyurl.com/6rn7rd7
Posted by: buzzion at July 01, 2012 06:24 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: navycopjoe who lives in waikiki at July 01, 2012 06:25 PM (RFl8c)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 06:25 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: navycopjoe who lives in waikiki at July 01, 2012 06:26 PM (RFl8c)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 01, 2012 06:29 PM (XYqoq)
Also, probably not as bad as I made it sound, but I am on a roll. I'm considering putting on one of those sandwich boards and marching around the Capitol building here in WI. A sign concerning the malfeasance of the JEF and his fat wife, and I will throw in the teachers' union just for fun. The private sector is going down in flames and we are still listening to the whiny idiots who just cost this state some $12M on a waste-of-time recall that did exactly nothing except smack them down.
So, yeah, I'm still cranky even though we won, because we are still dealing with the drummers and losers moping around town. Guess I should consider myself lucky they aren't actively seeking jobs, since I am.
So now, I'm going back to school in the fall to see if I can do something more employable. Went to sign up and everyone there is between 18 and 22--I'm a fossil. Oh well. I'm kind of looking forward to the phlebotomy class, so I can stick it to someone the way this economy has stuck it to me.
Posted by: tcn at July 01, 2012 06:29 PM (eFcVx)
In the meantime, I'm an evil, evil taxpayer, and I don't have 1) a smartphone, 2) a Kindle, 3) an MP3 player, or 4) numerous exotic tattoos and piercings. Instead, I pay my bills, and there's no money left over for luxuries. And yet, apparently I'm a bad person for wanting the poor to be drug tested in order to receive benefits, because they're suffering so much in their poverty, it's no wonder they turn to drugs.
Pisses me off. Most of "the poor" people I've seen out and about have nicer shit than I do.
Posted by: Palandine at July 01, 2012 06:30 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: thirteen28 at July 01, 2012 06:30 PM (AbmsP)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 01, 2012 06:30 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: epobirs at July 01, 2012 06:31 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 06:31 PM (ejmiE)
Ew!
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 10:17 PM (ejmiE)
--Wasn't Deadwood required viewing in these parts once upon a time? 
Posted by: logprof at July 01, 2012 06:31 PM (9qNZ9)
Posted by: teej at July 01, 2012 06:32 PM (Xfofp)
I think you mean proctology
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 06:33 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 06:33 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: chemjeff at July 01, 2012 06:33 PM (LK3ef)
I know I depend on my garden to feed my family, even more so now that we are dealing with hideous inflation and unemployment. Guess that's gone out of style, but we eat pretty well on the cheap around here. Now if it would just rain. I hate paying for water that is supposed to fall out of the sky for free.
Plus, those tattoos and piercings are butt ugly.
Posted by: tcn at July 01, 2012 06:33 PM (eFcVx)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 01, 2012 06:35 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: teej at July 01, 2012 06:36 PM (F1lOF)
Best thing that ever happened to the residents of the former northern portion of Mexico was the war with the US. Another go around could improve things again. Push the border south few hundred miles, make it a territory with an option for statehood in a few decades if there is sufficient assimilation. Anyone who doesn't like it gets a free trip to the capital of their choice in South America.
Keep going until we take back the Panama Canal. That little narrow strip would be a lot easier to have as a border.
Posted by: epobirs at July 01, 2012 06:36 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 06:38 PM (ejmiE)
Sorry.
Posted by: eman
Ah! Good!
Thanks for apologizing for me. It really was a gorgeous day here in the Bay Area. It makes you forget how incredibly screwed we are as a state.
Posted by: Dianna at July 01, 2012 06:38 PM (mKMj1)
I'm doing okay, but I'm shocked at how tough times are out there--you don't think of people fishing for subsistence in America. And I'm worried--if this drought doesn't break soon, food prices are going to go way up in a few months. I'm thinking it may be time to sell something and do a little more food storage.
Posted by: Palandine at July 01, 2012 06:38 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: moki at July 01, 2012 06:38 PM (dZmFh)
For my money, the Kenai peninsula is the place to be. Somewhere around Kasilof or Anchor Point. Far enough from the assholes and idiots, and close enough to get to Costco once a month to stock up. Good fishing, good moose hunting, decent weather, not so dusty or hot, not so far below zero cold.
Posted by: tcn at July 01, 2012 06:38 PM (eFcVx)
I don't know about taking all of Mexico but it would be nice to have Baja Cali to balance out Florida's wang.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 01, 2012 06:39 PM (famk3)
Posted by: teej at July 01, 2012 06:39 PM (ZhNCB)
Glad your chest is okay. I freaked out about chest pains a few years back. Everything was fine. It was probably gas, lol.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 06:40 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 01, 2012 06:40 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 06:41 PM (ejmiE)
And I don't even speak Finnish. I just know I'll have to do something to fill in the eternal nights of the winters there.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 06:42 PM (QTHTd)
For my money, the Kenai peninsula is the place to be. Somewhere around Kasilof or Anchor Point. Far enough from the assholes and idiots, and close enough to get to Costco once a month to stock up. Good fishing, good moose hunting, decent weather, not so dusty or hot, not so far below zero cold.
Posted by: tcn at July 01, 2012 10:38 PM (eFcVx)
--Damn, I don't know where Tok is. Only been to AK once, went south from Anchorage to Seward, then east to Wrangell-St. Elias, then north to Talkeetna. That's it. Maybe Tok fell within that itinerary, but it would've been just a blip.
Posted by: logprof at July 01, 2012 06:42 PM (9qNZ9)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 06:43 PM (ejmiE)
Keep going until we take back the Panama Canal. That little narrow strip would be a lot easier to have as a border.
Posted by: epobirs at July 01, 2012 10:36 PM (kcfmt)
Have you been listening to Ron White's comedy? You forgot to include "Swim this Bitch!"
Posted by: buzzion at July 01, 2012 06:44 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: moki at July 01, 2012 06:44 PM (dZmFh)
We are defining poor up. If you ain't hungry you ain't poor used to be the standard. Now the "poor" have color tv's, a/c, cell phones and a lot of other stuff I never dreamed of having when we were poor.
.
On a lighter note, who has accidentally walked in to the opposite sex's bathroom.
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 01, 2012 06:44 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 01, 2012 06:46 PM (JMmQ9)
Well, OK, but no East German judges. They are too...lenient...in...not quite the sort of way we should want.
Posted by: Splunge at July 01, 2012 06:46 PM (2IW5Q)
I guess we will get by. We always do. But it sure would be nice to have an economy that favored us for once. We really are the first generation to do worse than our parents, so I guess the war on poverty did accomplish something. It put us so far in debt that we all get to experience the joy of being broke.
So far, I haven't had to miss a meal, but I can see that time coming. We haven't paid the mortgage for three months so it is getting to be reckoning time on that as well. Maybe once we lose the house we will qualify for some of that govt money. Who knows? I hate this, but I'm also sure I'm in His hands. I refuse to lose hope.
It is truly grand to be able to come here and vent, and sorry if I shat all over the ONT.
Posted by: tcn at July 01, 2012 06:46 PM (eFcVx)
I only buy 64 GB drives nowadays. I expect to retire all of the 16 GB drives to a corner of the backpack within a few months. When they start offering 128 GB drives for well under a buck a gig I'll only get those and start retiring the 32 GB drives. Those the number of drives remains only mildly excessive.
Yes, I know but it's a harmless eccentricity.
Posted by: epobirs at July 01, 2012 06:46 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: moki at July 01, 2012 06:46 PM (dZmFh)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 01, 2012 10:44 PM (JKNDp)
--I've not only done that, I actually pissed there before I realized what I had done. First time I ever heard nasty-ass female farting in the shitter. Hell, Winnipeg is both so polite and so tolerant they probably thought I was a he-she and thought nothing of it.
Posted by: logprof at July 01, 2012 06:47 PM (9qNZ9)
I'd say Camel Snout was a disqualifier, but if she were still provably female there would be plenty of other opportunities I'm sure.
Posted by: epobirs at July 01, 2012 06:48 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: moki at July 01, 2012 06:48 PM (dZmFh)
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 01, 2012 10:04 PM
All government statistics eventually end up somewhere in an Aaron Sorkin or David E Kelley script
Posted by: kbdabear at July 01, 2012 06:49 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: logprof at July 01, 2012 10:42 PM (9qNZ9)
Nope, you missed it. Tok is where the Glenallen Highway splits from the Al-Can and heads south to Anchorage. They have an excellent garage for fixing Winnebagos, but other than that, nothing whatsoever to keep your attention.
Posted by: tcn at July 01, 2012 06:49 PM (eFcVx)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2012 06:50 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Hummingbird at July 01, 2012 06:52 PM (R5yLq)
Just another local quirk that makes clear if you are Cheechako or Sourdough.
Posted by: tcn at July 01, 2012 06:53 PM (eFcVx)
tcn, even if you're not Catholic, look into the St. Vincent de Paul Society at your local Catholic Church. They help everyone regardless of faith. When you're back on your feet--which will be soon, since you're a hard worker--just pay it forward.
I'm a huge fan of charities, and I give to St. Vincent de Paul whenever I can. Very little overhead--most of the money goes to support the needy, and it's more empowering than taking taxpayer money. God bless you as you work through your difficulties.
Posted by: Palandine at July 01, 2012 06:53 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: buzzion at July 01, 2012 06:53 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: tcn
It's better that you vent.
There is no way that I can feel exactly what you do, but your situation does touch me. So does your fortitude. If there's a way a Californian moronette can help, let me know.
Posted by: Dianna at July 01, 2012 06:53 PM (mKMj1)
People boggle my mind. Posted by: moki at July 01, 2012 10:38 PM
Does it ever occur to her that it won't be FREEEEE and that there will be waiting lists, rationing, and no choice of doctor?
No, I didn't think so either
Posted by: kbdabear at July 01, 2012 06:53 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 01, 2012 06:53 PM (JKNDp)
Do they actually go to the places they're named for? I've been baffled most of my life by the San Diego (405) Freeway that ends well short of San Diego.
At least the Ventura Freeway actually takes you through Ventura County and Ventura itself.
Posted by: epobirs at July 01, 2012 06:55 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 06:55 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: logprof at July 01, 2012 06:55 PM (9qNZ9)
Posted by: teej at July 01, 2012 06:55 PM (RM1gx)
We won't see his kind again soon
Posted by: kbdabear at July 01, 2012 06:56 PM (Y+DPZ)
Even the morons wouldn't say "I'd hit it"
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 06:56 PM (QTHTd)
Another reason I'm not fond of the 24th Amendment.
Posted by: epobirs at July 01, 2012 06:56 PM (kcfmt)
Probably should have paid the mortgage with the cost of the tickets, but my folks are in their eighties and the house, well, it is just stuff in the end. People are more important.
Posted by: tcn at July 01, 2012 06:57 PM (eFcVx)
I have a lib sister-in-law that used to love her some SCOAMF. Seems like the bloom is off the rose now, though.
She works for a subsidiary of GE and her job, along with that of 500 co-workers just got moved to India. Now the sister-in-law hates Jeffrey Immelt and just can't believe that her god-king Obama would take advice from Immelt.
Mrs Cop just told her that Obama hates America and she really didn't understand why her sister was surprised since anybody that paid attention knew what Obama actually stood for. I don't think the s-i-l will vote for Romney but she's probably going to stay home in November
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at July 01, 2012 06:57 PM (M0NzJ)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 01, 2012 06:58 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: moki at July 01, 2012 06:58 PM (dZmFh)
Do they actually go to the places they're named for? I've been baffled most of my life by the San Diego (405) Freeway that ends well short of San Diego.
At least the Ventura Freeway actually takes you through Ventura County and Ventura itself.
Posted by: epobirs at July 01, 2012 10:55 PM
Nobody who lives in LA calls the freeways by name, it's always by their number
If anyone says "San Diego Freeway" instead of "the 405", you know they're from out of town
Posted by: kbdabear at July 01, 2012 06:58 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: tcn
Absolutely right.
Don't mention the mortgage issue to your mom, though, or she'll have a fit. Moms are like that.
Posted by: Dianna at July 01, 2012 06:59 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: buzzion at July 01, 2012 06:59 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: B5D - 19K, call me Gordon Freeman at July 01, 2012 07:00 PM (qqlqB)
I've been to St. Vinnies quite a bit--they are the bomb. Great clothes and the price is completely right. They even help out with school supplies. I volunteer there to balance my debt, so to speak.
eman, I was an architect. My husband is, too, but when push came to shove, he stayed employed and I went out the door. NOT the same firm, just the same crappy economy. I'm going to study to become a medical lab tech. I figure people will keep getting sick, with or without Obamacare rationing. Why not? I'm trying to get the state to pay for retraining me. If not, we will squeeze the budget as best we can to pay for one class a semester or something.
Posted by: tcn at July 01, 2012 07:01 PM (eFcVx)
Thanks for the review Buzzion. I'll see about talking Stuck into watching at least one episode. Posted by: Hummingbird at July 01, 2012 07:02 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: buzzion at July 01, 2012 07:02 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 01, 2012 07:02 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 07:02 PM (ejmiE)
More specifically, we call them by number and direction. For example, if I'm telling someone about when I was chauffeuring my mother in her Ford Explorer and we were rear end by a Honda sedan, I'd say I was on the 405 North near Skirball.
Posted by: epobirs at July 01, 2012 07:03 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 07:03 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Dianna at July 01, 2012 10:59 PM (mKMj1)
Mom doesn't know we are in dire straights. I figure to keep it that way. She is starting to slip a bit and I'd rather she not have to deal with any more stress than caring for dad while he gets better.
But yes, she would have a conniption.
Posted by: tcn at July 01, 2012 07:03 PM (eFcVx)
Posted by: the East German judges at July 01, 2012 07:04 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: tcn at July 01, 2012 07:04 PM (eFcVx)
Posted by: buzzion at July 01, 2012 07:05 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 01, 2012 07:05 PM (JKNDp)
Understand where you are coming from... I'm trying to sell my home - I was able to pay 3/4 of my mortgage over the last few months after I lost my job (thanks to my military retirement), but the bank doesn't seem to be happy with that - gee do I pay all of the mortgage or do I lose the car...or not eat for the month?
Finally got an offer today that was decent - now if the realtor and my soon to be ex-wife don't screw up the process, I should be out of the house and into something else by the middle of August...
Posted by: Mjölnir the banhammer at July 01, 2012 07:06 PM (Jls4P)
Posted by: tcn at July 01, 2012 07:06 PM (eFcVx)
The best scene was the mock "recruitment video" they did in the first episode-series, though; might have been the only bit they played for satire.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 07:07 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: B5D - 19K, call me Gordon Freeman at July 01, 2012 07:07 PM (qqlqB)
Posted by: moki at July 01, 2012 07:07 PM (dZmFh)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 07:08 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 01, 2012 11:02 PM (JKNDp)
Ladies room is the better one. Not that women are less inclined to make a mess but the cleaning people do a better job cleaning it.
Shit well, my friend!
Posted by: Bob at July 01, 2012 07:08 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 01, 2012 07:09 PM (JKNDp)
So we decided to have a barbecue tonight and "smoke" a little chicken and veggies. We simply take trimmings of appropriate plants and cover the part of the grill where we're not cooking. But one of the plants I used was a sage that had rooted in, grew, and now was dying back 'cause the taproot was gone (the other main one is a rosemary that's going to have the same problem shortly). First thing I notice is that the little "puff-puff-puff" I'm supposed to be getting is looking more like "3-alarm fire in residential neighborhood"....and some smoke is even blowing into the house. So I open it up to take a peek and the little bastard flash-fired. Bad behavior!!!
So if I seem a little scorched tonight....or if you think it smells a bit smoky downwind from me -- well, that's why.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2012 07:09 PM (kaalw)
--Glad it was just #1 when I was in the wrong lav.
Posted by: logprof at July 01, 2012 07:10 PM (9qNZ9)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 01, 2012 07:10 PM (JKNDp)
That is merely the most recent permutation. I prefer the classic 'largesse from the public treasury.' Though the source is up for dispute.
en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alexander_Fraser_Tytler
Posted by: epobirs at July 01, 2012 07:11 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2012 11:09 PM (kaalw)
So anyone up for grilled squid?
Posted by: Bob at July 01, 2012 07:11 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: no good deed at July 01, 2012 07:11 PM (0lYad)
Met Romney last week. Tough O Chicago pros will be hard to beat unless he drops old friends from team and hires some real pros. Doubtful.
I assume he means "real pros" to be backstabbers like Nicolle Wallace and Steve Schmidt
Romney's people are already running circles around what McCain's "real pros" were doing, and certainly fighting in a way Karl Rove wouldn't have the balls for
Posted by: kbdabear at July 01, 2012 07:12 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Bob at July 01, 2012 11:11 PM (HWUv9)
I wasn't, but got it anyway.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2012 07:13 PM (kaalw)
"I don't know about the women's restroom being better than the men's. I've seen some really nasty things in the ladies room. "
.
HOVERING
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 01, 2012 07:13 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Lauren at July 01, 2012 07:13 PM (QULHk)
Posted by: moki at July 01, 2012 07:13 PM (dZmFh)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 01, 2012 07:13 PM (CP+yl)
Posted by: Clemenza at July 01, 2012 07:13 PM (6SKW/)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 07:14 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 07:14 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 11:14 PM (ejmiE)
Whatever the reason for the smell I'm pretty sure it ain't cause women shit roses.
Posted by: Bob at July 01, 2012 07:15 PM (HWUv9)
pros will be hard to beat unless he drops old friends from team and
hires some real pros. Doubtful. I assume he means "real pros" to be backstabbers like Nicolle Wallace and Steve SchmidtRomney's people are already running circles around what McCain's "real pros" were doing, and certainly fighting in a way Karl Rove wouldn't have the balls for
Posted by: kbdabear at July 01, 2012 11:12 PM (Y+DPZ)
--Murdoch is the Beano Cooke of political analysis.
Posted by: logprof at July 01, 2012 07:16 PM (9qNZ9)
Posted by: epobirs at July 01, 2012 07:16 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: moki at July 01, 2012 07:17 PM (dZmFh)
Murdoch supported Obama in 2008. I don't give a damn what that pathetic ass thinks of Romney.
Posted by: buzzion at July 01, 2012 07:17 PM (GULKT)
But yes the ladies used to get the deluxe treatment as far as lounging facilities in a restroom.
Every factory I ever worked for had sofas, cots and other accoutrements that were missing from the men's.
Of course THEY see limited access compared to men's because we can pee into a device on the wall which takes up less space. Whereas the ladies usually squat and that takes more room.
Sorry ladies the lack of facilities compared to men's is your own fault. If you had just learned how to pee standing up just think of all the aggravation that could have been avoided.
[snort]
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 01, 2012 07:18 PM (CP+yl)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 07:19 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 11:14 PM (QTHTd)
Strapped on the outside as ballast maybe.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 01, 2012 07:19 PM (CP+yl)
According to the trader, "everyone knew" and "everyone was doing it". There was no implication of illegality. After all, there were 20 to 30 people in the room – from management to economists, structuring teams to salespeople – and more on the teleconference dial-in from across the country.
... this story makes it look like those guys a zerohedge.com are holding back.
I always thought they were a bit too paranoid, but they had cause ...
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at July 01, 2012 07:20 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 01, 2012 11:18 PM (CP+yl)
Maybe some kind of vacuum tube attachment...*Gets ideas*
Posted by: Bob at July 01, 2012 07:20 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 07:20 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: tcn at July 01, 2012 10:46 PM (eFcVx)
tcn, your story is incredible. your faith is so strong. best of luck to you. and I'm serious, if you ever need something, just drop me a line, chem dot jeff at yahoo dot com, I live in NW MO and it's only a day's drive from WI (well, southern WI anyway) and I'd be happy to hop on up there and deliver something or help out in some way.
Posted by: chemjeff at July 01, 2012 07:21 PM (LK3ef)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 01, 2012 07:23 PM (XYqoq)
It's an excerpt from Scott Patterson, "Dark Pools". It looks as if the Wall Street game might be rigged or something
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 07:24 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 11:20 PM (ejmiE)
Check out Andres Ramos Cigars in Newark NJ for great affordable cigars. They will ship them to you. Nice people.
Posted by: garrett at July 01, 2012 07:25 PM (e2rMB)
Posted by: Avi at July 01, 2012 07:25 PM (51xVX)
Posted by: Hummingbird at July 01, 2012 07:26 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Avi at July 01, 2012 07:26 PM (51xVX)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 07:28 PM (ejmiE)
Too low! Submit your generous donation at once
Posted by: John Roberts at July 01, 2012 07:28 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Dianna at July 01, 2012 07:29 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 01, 2012 07:29 PM (bMLFV)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 01, 2012 11:29 PM (bMLFV)
The problem is calling them "journalists".
We need a term that's fitting and accurate. Something like...I dunno...bullshit peddlers.
Posted by: Bob at July 01, 2012 07:31 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: B5D - 19K, call me Gordon Freeman at July 01, 2012 07:33 PM (qqlqB)
Amendment XVI Delenda Est.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 07:34 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 07:36 PM (ejmiE)
Who? to whom? was Lenin's question.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 07:36 PM (QTHTd)
I think the bullshit slipped in when they changed to journalists from reporters. Aww, who am I kidding? They've always been full of manure.
Posted by: no good deed at July 01, 2012 07:36 PM (0lYad)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 07:37 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: The Dude at July 01, 2012 07:37 PM (tw6Ar)
So...Bob.
Which is a verb but I'll take what I can get.
Posted by: Bob at July 01, 2012 07:37 PM (HWUv9)
We need a term that's fitting and accurate. Something like...I dunno...bullshit peddlers.
Posted by: Bob at July 01, 2012 11:31 PM (HWUv9)
I've always been fond of presstitute.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 01, 2012 07:39 PM (CP+yl)
Gotta get ready for woik.
Catch ya'll later.
If anyone wins the lotto I expect to be notified so you can buy me a free round. For life.
Posted by: Bob at July 01, 2012 07:40 PM (HWUv9)
I've always been fond of presstitute.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 01, 2012 11:39 PM (CP+yl)
Okay, that I like. No, I love.
Posted by: Bob at July 01, 2012 07:41 PM (HWUv9)
I think the bullshit slipped in when they changed to journalists from reporters. Aww, who am I kidding? They've always been full of manure.
Posted by: no good deed at July 01, 2012 11:36 PM (0lYad)
They lost all semblance of honor when they started to bleat about their integrity as being why people should listen to them. If they'd had actual integrity, they wouldn't need to talk about it so much.
Small-town newspapers used to have some doozies. Place I used to live, when a well-known local man showed up at the local hospital to have a still-functioning vibrator removed from a non-recreational section of his lower GI tract, it ran on the top-right corner of page 3 with the headline "The Agony and the Ecstasy".
Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2012 07:42 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 01, 2012 07:44 PM (I2LwF)
Amendment XVI Delenda Est.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 11:34 PM (QTHTd)
--Where is Radio Derb housed now? i thought it went out of business after the Trayvon hubbub.
Posted by: logprof at July 01, 2012 07:45 PM (9qNZ9)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 07:46 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 07:46 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: no good deed at July 01, 2012 07:47 PM (0lYad)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 01, 2012 07:47 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Scont at July 01, 2012 07:48 PM (pCuII)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 01, 2012 07:48 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 07:48 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: no good deed at July 01, 2012 11:47 PM (0lYad)
I guess that's what is known as "Cajun Bacon"
Posted by: chemjeff at July 01, 2012 07:48 PM (LK3ef)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 01, 2012 11:43 PM (OWjjx)
I believe you're missing something about Enron in that title...
Posted by: buzzion at July 01, 2012 07:50 PM (GULKT)
Possibly because various families of the deceased were still sore about Gallipoli... There was also his return as Prime Minister in the 1950s, in which he basically snoozed through office and let that clown Eden run the place
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 07:51 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Swing State Disaster Relief at July 01, 2012 07:52 PM (AzwZn)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 01, 2012 07:53 PM (I2LwF)
Because he had balls that fucking clank.
Posted by: Berserker at July 01, 2012 07:53 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 07:54 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: Cicero at July 01, 2012 07:54 PM (6j180)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 01, 2012 07:55 PM (r4wIV)
It's Eden and other Tory bigwigs I'm going to blame for the 1950s.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 07:55 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: B5D - 19K, call me Gordon Freeman at July 01, 2012 07:56 PM (qqlqB)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 01, 2012 07:56 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 07:57 PM (ejmiE)
(I still have some booze left but want to keep up appearances with the wifey.)
'Night y'all!
Posted by: logprof at July 01, 2012 07:57 PM (9qNZ9)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 01, 2012 07:58 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: dogfish at July 01, 2012 07:58 PM (N2yhW)
Posted by: eman at July 01, 2012 08:01 PM (ejmiE)
Because he had balls that fucking clank.
Posted by: Berserker at July 01, 2012 11:53 PM (FMbng)
Sounds about right.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2012 08:03 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 01, 2012 08:03 PM (fHyXI)
Probably not, though. They would have just done it all later. Not even Margaret Thatcher could save them.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 01, 2012 08:03 PM (r4wIV)
My brother went to the Bahamas and hated it. He thought the people were rude, that they were just being told to be nice to tourists and that they secretly hated them.
I told him he should have gone to Barbados instead. Maybe I had a better time in "Bimshire" than he did in Nassau because I passed as a Brit and not an American. Or maybe not. I suspect that in Barbados, the tourists you don't want to look like are Australian - the Australian tourists were the absolute worst I've seen anywhere.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 08:06 PM (QTHTd)
More than a bust. Not little. And by more than just any building. Remove the space to see
http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Statue_of_Winston_Churchill,_Parliament_Square
Posted by: Splunge at July 01, 2012 08:06 PM (2IW5Q)
You guys are making me misty eyed. Thanks for the support and shoulder for crying/beer for whining into. I can always count on morons to make me feel better about a world where morons exist and even thrive.
Time for bed.
Posted by: tcn at July 01, 2012 08:07 PM (eFcVx)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 08:11 PM (QTHTd)
I forgot.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 08:13 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Swing State Disaster Relief at July 01, 2012 08:16 PM (AzwZn)
Posted by: B5D - 19K, call me Gordon Freeman at July 01, 2012 08:17 PM (qqlqB)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 11:34 PM (QTHTd)
They are correct. The power to tax is not unlimited. They can tax Income DIRECTLY, and it does not have to be capitated, but all other Direct Taxes must still be capitated.
Just as Imposts, Excises, and duty taxes must be uniform throughout the United States.
Problem is that while the individual tax within ObamaCare IS tied to income, the BUSINESS tax of 2K on each person you do not cover, is not. Its a Direct UnCapitated Tax.
Add in the religious exemptions, and the fact that some States will be able to opt out (making them non uniform, and giving some religions an advantage)....
They are correct, Roberts threw out EVERY Limit on Taxs by the Feds.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 01, 2012 08:21 PM (lZBBB)
Still, I'm sure you have video evidence -- try to get it on the local news, in the local paper, some kind of press. It just sounds like a planned deliberate violation of the agreed upon participation rules.
And yeah, to the typical Kennedy voter this is going to look like a big plus, not a negative. "Look how clever he was!"
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 01, 2012 08:25 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: zeera at July 01, 2012 08:26 PM (XtxRN)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 08:28 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 01, 2012 08:29 PM (fHyXI)
http://tinyurl.com/bmt588b
H/T http://wyblog.us/blog
This needs to be shared with our Liberal friends. Ask them how do they like $5.00 gallon petrol? The only reason it currently is near $3.50 is because the Obama economy is swirling the toilet.
Posted by: political correctness czar at July 01, 2012 08:31 PM (UUZJA)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 01, 2012 08:33 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Maximilien Robespierre at July 01, 2012 08:37 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: B5D - 19K, call me Gordon Freeman at July 01, 2012 08:42 PM (qqlqB)
Ah, yes; another American brought on to the Anglo dark side. I would offer you tea but, you know.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 08:45 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 02, 2012 12:06 AM (QTHTd)
I have met Aussies more or less in every country I've traveled to, and thought they were friendly and helpful...always thought the Saudis/Kuwaitis were the most insufferable, obnoxious pricks with a passport.
Posted by: model_1066 at July 01, 2012 08:47 PM (PWwbk)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 02, 2012 12:06 AM (QTHTd)
On our Fiji trip, we were staying at a place in Taveuni for a bit, and halfway through there was this junket for Australian travel agents (so that they could recommend it to their clients [**cough** kickback **cough**]. So, no great surprise they're on the next morning's dive.
We had a lot of fine diving in Fiji, but on this one we saw a banded sea snake. Very cool snake with white and black bands around it -- lives in open water, but doesn't have to worry about much as it slithers through the coral looking for fish....because it's a close relative of the cobra and slings a potent neurotoxin -- potent, as in most people don't make it out of the water, much less back to the dock. And we're about 15-20 feet away, pointing, and trying to give off a "we don't bother you, you don't bother us, everybody's cool" vibe -- and those yahoo Aussies go charging off after the thing and try to get it out of the reef so this guy with a 87-pound camera rig can get a "good shot". Not a "natural shot", mind you, where it'd be doing its business along the reef looking for food -- more like the shot of it, half-angry and half-panicked, bolting away from the harassment towards a pair of Americans frantically going "vibe, vibe, vibe, vibe...."
Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2012 08:47 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: B5D - 19K, call me Gordon Freeman at July 02, 2012 12:42 AM (qqlqB)
Well when 70% of Americans can name all the people on jersey shore, but not name the justice who just screwed us, we should not be surprised.
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 01, 2012 08:47 PM (fHyXI)
Posted by: model_1066 at July 01, 2012 08:52 PM (PWwbk)
heavy socks, pre-treated ?permethrin? long pants. It takes hours for Lyme Disease to spread out of the tick.
Staying out of long grass where deer have been bedding really helps.
Posted by: DaveA at July 01, 2012 08:52 PM (864A5)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 08:54 PM (QTHTd)
heavy socks, pre-treated ?permethrin? long pants. It takes hours for Lyme Disease to spread out of the tick.
Staying out of long grass where deer have been bedding really helps.
Posted by: DaveA at July 02, 2012 12:52 AM (864A5)
Or move to nv where the ticks say, man its just to fkin hot there, we will pass.
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 01, 2012 08:54 PM (fHyXI)
Posted by: DaveA at July 01, 2012 08:55 PM (864A5)
Posted by: model_1066 at July 01, 2012 08:56 PM (PWwbk)
Posted by: george lucas's neck-pouch at July 01, 2012 09:01 PM (LzwaA)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 01, 2012 11:34 PM (QTHTd)
They are correct. The power to tax is not unlimited. They can tax Income DIRECTLY, and it does not have to be capitated, but all other Direct Taxes must still be capitated.
Just as Imposts, Excises, and duty taxes must be uniform throughout the United States.
Problem is that while the individual tax within ObamaCare IS tied to income, the BUSINESS tax of 2K on each person you do not cover, is not. Its a Direct UnCapitated Tax.
Add in the religious exemptions, and the fact that some States will be able to opt out (making them non uniform, and giving some religions an advantage)....
They are correct, Roberts threw out EVERY Limit on Taxs by the Feds.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 02, 2012 12:21 AM (lZBBB)
This is close to what I've been musing about.
To start with, the States came in and sued to toss Obamacare because the mandate was unconstitutional. So the Court looks at the mandate and is about to say "the mandate's unconstitutional under the Commerce Clause" -- when Roberts gets annoyed at the Dem, WH, media (but I repeat myself) BS, and gets all cute with "well, it could be constitutional as a tax."
SCOTUS wasn't asked about it being capitated, or uniform, or if the regulations (which didn't exist when the States' case was filed) were constitutional, and so they don't say. There is a way for a mandate to be constitutional if it falls within the power to tax. Period.
Now Kennedy, Alito, Thomas, and Scalia are scandalized by this -- they're thinking "cut the crap! We're here to solve problems, not create them." But Roberts cannot be budged. It's personal.
Libs see "a win" and predictably spooge themselves. Everyone gets wound up and prickly. Conservatives vilify Roberts....but.....
[As I recall, one of the Pirates of the Caribbean flicks had a finale where there were three ships caught in a whirlpool, and at the end the English prig finds himself between the other two while they unload holy hell upon him -- essentially turning a ship under sail at one end into splinters at the other, with a line of damage working down the ship.]
.....but, as we come one more turn around the whirlpool, Obamacare starts being blasted apart for its "non-tax" aspects. And that shredding is done at lower levels, by courts and appeals courts -- hundreds of them, all at once.
Mind you, I wouldn't think that what Roberts did in this case was at all proper. It will cause unnecessary grief to citizens, it will confuse people, it will lose precious time. It's like the Coast Guard coming up to a rowboat and saying, "sorry, this isn't general sailing -- you can only qualify to take your boat across here if it's a ferry...and a ferry has to carry a car." Once the CG leaves, it's anyone's guess who'd be the first to drop a car on the guy's dinghy.
And I'm not sure if "tax" is even the right wrinkle. But I'm suspecting that Roberts changed his vote from a "sorry, no" because of Chicago persuasion....and I'm also suspecting that the change was to a lovely golden chalice, containing painful poison.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2012 09:16 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 01, 2012 09:17 PM (CP+yl)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2012 09:20 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 02, 2012 01:17 AM (CP+yl)
I wonder how common that is. With just you and I in the sample, it's at 100%.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2012 09:21 PM (kaalw)
Liberals are mentally diseased. Reading the comments on a story about young people not voting, and they are complaining that republicans have been putting a stop to obama at every turn. Hello fuckfaces, did he not have the house, senate and presidency for a bit?
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 01, 2012 09:22 PM (fHyXI)
Posted by: Buffalobob at July 01, 2012 09:22 PM (676kt)
Posted by: Judge Jeepers, Judge Dredd's midget understudy at July 01, 2012 09:23 PM (N8ZZU)
Posted by: B5D - 19K, call me Gordon Freeman at July 01, 2012 09:24 PM (qqlqB)
Ah, yes; another American brought on to the Anglo dark side
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Personally, I prefer the long form: "oil of peter."
Posted by: Anachronda at July 01, 2012 09:25 PM (1c58W)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 02, 2012 01:20 AM (kaalw)
Don't worry, that big block of text made my shadenboner throb mightily.
Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2012 09:31 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 01, 2012 09:31 PM (CP+yl)
Posted by: Buffalobob at July 02, 2012 01:22 AM (676kt)
Cedar-shingled roofs are really only an issue with falling embers. If you have dry weeds up to the house, and a woodpile up against the back door, you're already done before the roof is involved.
Problem is, a fire can be in brush, come up to a house and get some wood, suck that wood into the updraft and drop it as embers far ahead of the fire line, and get the one guy in 20 who has a cedar roof. When that house catches fire, it spreads to his immediate neighbors on the ground again, and burns out the subdivision. Fire probes a myriad of weaknesses, all at once. It's like "herd immunity" with epidemics -- it's not the one particular cause that broke down, it's all the possibilities left open.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2012 09:32 PM (kaalw)
On this video, you can skip/fast forward to 5:42 and listen to an almost finished copy of the song. This was from the original studio tape about 1965.
http://snurl.com/245pk8j or Click on my name for the video.
The thing that strikes me about this piece are how complex the arrangements are. About 23 musicians were in the studio which for the time period was unheard of for a rock/pop song. Oh yes, the vocals are simply awesome.
Posted by: political correctness czar at July 01, 2012 09:32 PM (UUZJA)
Don't mean shit to the rest of ya'll?
Hell, made my day.
*Squeals gently to himself*
Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2012 09:33 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: buzzion at July 01, 2012 09:35 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 01, 2012 09:36 PM (CP+yl)
Posted by: The Dude at July 01, 2012 09:36 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2012 09:36 PM (4ixH5)
Stopped going to movies a long time ago when people started being not people but out of control children with a entitled to act anyway I want attitude.
Realized that if I kept going to movies, I was going to get killed or seriously injured or I was going to do that to someone else.
I think Star wars IV was the last until the Matrix series. Wasn't patient enough to wait for the dvd of Revolutions. That's IT. I picked and chose the neighborhood and time very very carefully.
Didn't go to LOTR (crap I've READ the series about 6 times).
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 01, 2012 09:42 PM (CP+yl)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 01, 2012 09:45 PM (CP+yl)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 02, 2012 01:45 AM (CP+yl)
77 unless it was a second run
Posted by: The Dude at July 01, 2012 09:46 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 01, 2012 09:46 PM (CP+yl)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 01, 2012 09:47 PM (CP+yl)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 02, 2012 01:47 AM (CP+yl)
well that's not what I think when someone says original Star Wars
Posted by: The Dude at July 01, 2012 09:48 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 01, 2012 09:49 PM (CP+yl)
Posted by: The Dude at July 01, 2012 09:50 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: The Dude at July 01, 2012 09:55 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 02, 2012 01:42 AM (CP+yl)
I could go on about shitty audiences. Man alive, shitty audiences FUCKING SUCK! I have had many a movie ruined by terrible audiences. The most recent one being The Lady In Black (herpes upon that sonovabitch that was behind me).
But I still enjoy seeing a movie on the big screen with big sound with a big audience. If the audience is generally respectful, the film is in focus and the sound is cranked way the hell up, I'm a happy camper.
And I think, with a movie like Batman, seeing it with a nerd audience is the way to go. Fanboys tend to be be better if for any other reason they are there for the movie and aren't just pissing away a couple of hours.
Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2012 10:00 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: The Dude at July 01, 2012 10:02 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 01, 2012 10:03 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: model_1066 at July 01, 2012 10:04 PM (PWwbk)
Dead thread.
Posted by: Robert at July 02, 2012 02:01 AM (4ixH5)
I don't see this thread as dead, sir!
I don't know what's in your head, sir!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7pNItiihEs
Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2012 10:10 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: The Dude at July 01, 2012 10:11 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 01, 2012 10:24 PM (A2LXE)
Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2012 10:28 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 01, 2012 10:41 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2012 10:44 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at July 01, 2012 10:47 PM (jts1f)
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at July 01, 2012 10:53 PM (jts1f)
Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2012 10:55 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Robert at July 02, 2012 02:55 AM (4ixH5)
bought tickets after school and went with my brother and dad to the midnight showing, so many nerds disappointed that morning
Posted by: The Dude at July 01, 2012 10:57 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 01, 2012 10:58 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: The Dude at July 01, 2012 10:59 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 01, 2012 11:00 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 02, 2012 02:58 AM (XYqoq)
I I remember when episodes two and three came out getting the tickets...eventually. Come to think of it even though I saw them on their opening weekends I don't remember them being sold out.
Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2012 11:09 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: The Dude at July 02, 2012 02:59 AM (tw6Ar)
Oh dude...Godzilla came out on my 18th birthday and I think I eventually saw it like three times in the theater.
I had poor taste back then.
Yes, yes, it was worse back in the day.
Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2012 11:11 PM (4ixH5)
http://tinyurl.com/7uqnuwa
photo in the first reply is fucking hilarious
Posted by: The Dude at July 01, 2012 11:12 PM (tw6Ar)
Scottish lecturer found to be 'grandfather of everyone in Britain'
A retired lecturer who took a DNA test to find out where his ancestors came from has been found to be directly descended from the first woman on earth, who lived 190,000 years ago.
The Telegraph
Related: All ur grandmaz r ez.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2012 11:15 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 02, 2012 03:15 AM (kdS6q)
Beats the hell out of everyone who ever claimed to be descendents of Cleopatra.
Posted by: Robert at July 01, 2012 11:25 PM (4ixH5)
304 ...I have met Aussies more or less in every country I've traveled to, and thought they were friendly and helpful ... always thought the Saudis/Kuwaitis were the most insufferable, obnoxious pricks with a passport. Posted by: model_1066 at July 02, 2012 12:47 AM (PWwbk)
This has been my experience as well.
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at July 02, 2012 02:47 AM (jts1f)
They are absolutely friendly and helpful. They're also charming, clever, and fun-loving. It's like God wanted Aussies and Americans to bond and get along......but they are also the most reckless and oblivious tourists out there -- it's like they're trying their damnedest to overtake the "ugly American" caricature because they're good folk and they thought we previously got the raw end of it. Teasing a neurotoxic reptile out of coral 40 feet below the surface shows a certain, how shall we say.....stupid disregard for consequences? Great people, great company, wonderful companions....so long as you draw your own boundaries.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2012 11:33 PM (kaalw)
Automatic weapon mandate.
Every American will be mandated to buy an assault weapon of a minimum prescribed caliber for the defense of self and family AND attend annual weapons training. Further, all able bodied citizens without criminal background shall be allowed to conceal carry without the need for a licence. Failure to arm yourself will result in payment of a tax towards funding of new police officers and equipment.
Because, hell, if I have to buy insurance because some other asshole's premiums are going up then that asshole should be made to buy a gun since dead little girls inevitably...I dunno...drive down property values or something.
Constitutional under the newly expanded tax authority, second amendment and the Militia Acts.
Posted by: Robert at July 02, 2012 12:45 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: DAve at July 02, 2012 12:55 AM (h+/7G)
There are people on Jersey Shore? I thought it was a sort of wildlife documentary, the sort that Marlin Perkins might have narrated if he were still around.
"Now here Jim is facing a tricky problem in trying to get that tag on the Skooki without picking up any nasty infections from its claws or worse, a crippling paternity strike."
Posted by: epobirs at July 02, 2012 01:36 AM (kcfmt)
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore,
While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
`'Tis some visitor,' I muttered, `tapping at my chamber door -
Only this, and nothing more.'
And if its that fucking raven, it'll be flying looking out his squeak hole after I'm done.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 02, 2012 02:00 AM (CP+yl)
Posted by: CoolCzech at July 02, 2012 02:21 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 02, 2012 02:23 AM (CP+yl)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 02, 2012 02:23 AM (CP+yl)
I think it's the shako.
Some bear DIED for that headgear.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 02, 2012 02:25 AM (CP+yl)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 02, 2012 02:26 AM (CP+yl)
Posted by: Josef K., playing along at July 02, 2012 02:33 AM (7+pP9)
I seen more expression on Gumby.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 02, 2012 02:35 AM (CP+yl)
Posted by: teej at July 02, 2012 02:39 AM (ZhNCB)
Posted by: teej at July 02, 2012 06:39 AM (ZhNCB)
Nah. Too much of that shit happens in both the public and private sectors. just hang in there and stay employed. Don't do anything rash.
"Nobody move, nobody get hurt."
Posted by: Josef K. channels Yellow Man at July 02, 2012 02:52 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Jean at July 02, 2012 02:52 AM (OIJP7)
Posted by: Josef K. at July 02, 2012 02:53 AM (7+pP9)
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