July 16, 2012
— Maetenloch
Barack Obama Channels his Inner Fake Cherokee
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don't do on our own
Yeah Ace covered this earlier but I think it's worth covering again for what it says about the left.
A key trait of the left is that its political positions are almost always emotion-based rather than reasoned out from a set of principles. There may be intellectual arguments for their policies but they're almost always tacked on long after the fact to justify a position that feels right. So it's natural that they will try to sell a position using the same quality that makes it so appealing to them.
One shared quality among humans (and some apes) is that we all have a built-in sense of fairness in our brains - or to be more accurate a keen detector of unfairness. And leftists use this unfairness sensor all the time when they're promoting forms of wealth redistribution e.g. it's *unfair* that the rich have so many boats and houses when there are working people who can't feed their families.
By re-framing a situation into an 'unfair' narrative they're trying to activate people's anti-unfairness brain circuitry to get them to emotionally accept the proposed solutions to make things 'fair' again. Now this works fairly often but it's certainly not the magic bullet that leftists believe it is. In particular it only works if the proposed 'fairness' solution doesn't itself also activate the unfairness-detector.
Now Americans generally admire people who've built up their own successful businesses through hard work, investment of money and huge amounts of time - so much so that this is a key component of the American Dream. So when politicians talk about making these businesses - particularly small ones - pay much higher taxes and fees, it also seems unfair that those who've made risks and worked very hard to build something should be the very ones to be singled out to have more of their earned wealth taken away. That also sets the unfairness neurons a-twitchin'.
The left knows this which is why they're always looking for some way to disqualify and devalue the achievements of successful entrepreneurs. So it's no surprise that both Elizabeth Warren and Obama (using nearly the same words) claim that no one really builds a business by themselves - it's really the result of government help, the work of other people, and plain luck.
Then it follows that business owners don't fully deserve their financial gains either and so it's completely reasonable to make them share it with others. Thus taking more from the successful who earned it is now the truly fair thing to do.
Of course their no-one-is-really-independently-successful argument is wrong for a host of reasons but now you know why they're making it in the first place.
Jonah Goldberg on the Suckiness of the UN
Not everything the U.N. does is evil. Some of it is just incompetent. The whole of what passes for the "international community" has been trying to enforce sanctions on Iran and North Korea. But nobody told the U.N.'s intellectual-property agency, it was revealed earlier this month, so they went ahead and gave North Korea and Iran computers and IT equipment.A few days later, the invaluable human-rights group U.N. Watch reported that Iran was elected to the U.N. Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty, despite having just been declared guilty - in a U.N. Security Council report! - of illegally shipping guns and bombs to Syria.
Speaking of Syria, which is currently violating agreements to not murder its own people, it recently had a big victory at the Human Rights Council. Syria co-sponsored and passed a resolution pushed by Cuba (and supported by the usual Legion of Doom nations) to establish a "Right to Peace." The document is a lot of boilerplate until you get to the part where it says "all peoples and individuals have the right to resist and oppose oppressive colonial, foreign occupation." This is Middle East-speak for "It's okay to blow up Israelis."
Up is down, black is white, and human rights are really just a boot stamping you in the face in some hell-hole state.
China's Beautiful 'Green Cities'
The praise for the People's Republic of China isn't just coming from the likes of Barack Obama and Thomas Friedman, both of whom pine for a simpler, more -- eh -- totalitarian form of government.The PRC party line is also gleefully recited by the hacks at USA Today, who claim that "China builds [the] most ecologically friendly cities."
Designed to be low-carbon and energy-saving, China is building more eco-cities, as they are known, than any other country, according to a survey by the University of Westminster in London. The United States ranked second.
But one thing we learned from the fall of the Iron Curtain is that communist countries treat their environments the same way they treat their citizens - brutally and nastily - and lie about it the entire time.
Pity USA Today is only in the business of reformatting PRC press releases and can't concentrate on the real environmental issues in Red China. As CBS News reports, 16 of the 20 most polluted cities on the planet are in China.
Games collection sells on eBay for US$1.2 million
Perhaps if you'd geeked out just a little harder this could've been you:
The collection is ridiculously complete, with every single game released on every Sega console, every game for many of Nintendo's consoles, and full sets for lesser-known consoles such as the PC Engine and Pioneer's Laseractive. All of the games are either factory-sealed or in mint condition with the original boxes and instructions. As an extra assurance the seller promised the collection came from a "pet-free/smoke-free home" and were "stored out of direct sunlight." The listing also contains hundreds of photos of the collection. The asking price for this mind-blowing collection of games was equally gob-smacking, with the seller only willing to part with his collection for 999,999 euro (approx. US$1,230,699.99).
Including Stallone back in the day.
Well I'm Feeling Kinda Generous
Sure she'll probably just spend the money on meth or food for her baby or something but a guy can still dream can't he?
The Yahoo AoSHQ group. Bla bla bla.
And don't forget about the Job Bank.
And my twitter thang.
Tonight's post brought to you by rape prevention tips for rape-rapers:
Okay these all seem pretty obvious but there's always a few guys who have to have everything spelled out for them.
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Posted by: steevy at July 16, 2012 06:25 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: toby928© at July 16, 2012 06:26 PM (QupBk)
As for Comrade Obama. So will he now admit, after a microsecond of introspection, that he got where he got only because other people selected him to be there? Probably not.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 06:27 PM (bwH3a)
Posted by: DC in Towson at July 16, 2012 06:27 PM (N/WI2)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 06:28 PM (bwH3a)
Posted by: Ronster at July 16, 2012 06:28 PM (xdTqU)
Posted by: Uncle Jim at July 16, 2012 06:29 PM (KZI7g)
Posted by: toby928© at July 16, 2012 06:29 PM (QupBk)
Those racist animals taught him how to talk to animals. Tarzan can too.
Must be using "dog whistles".
Posted by: Uncle Jim at July 16, 2012 06:30 PM (KZI7g)
Posted by: Skinny Gurl at July 16, 2012 06:31 PM (ffV1/)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 16, 2012 06:31 PM (jucos)
Fiat will offer 'world's first in-car espresso maker'
http://tinyurl.com/ce7yuan
Posted by: kbdabear at July 16, 2012 06:31 PM (Y7XKa)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 16, 2012 06:32 PM (JMmQ9)
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How's a guy supposed to get action following those damn rules?!? Its not every day a chubby intern just falls into your lap. Literally.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at July 16, 2012 06:33 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: steevy at July 16, 2012 06:34 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Buffalo Bill at July 16, 2012 06:35 PM (ffV1/)
Posted by: Kratos at July 16, 2012 06:35 PM (c1WVm)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 16, 2012 06:35 PM (9TTOe)
Oh, and good evening, 'rons
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 16, 2012 06:36 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Cowboy Bob at July 16, 2012 06:36 PM (LBQ+l)
This.....http://tinyurl.com/caqyj8l
Posted by: Uncle Jim at July 16, 2012 06:36 PM (KZI7g)
Posted by: Clemenza at July 16, 2012 06:37 PM (yNm6D)
Another reason why they make this argument is that it just so happens that Leftist busybodies really like having jobs where they can redistribute others' wealth without actually having to compete for that wealth and the only place where one finds such jobs is in government. So, the argument is "ideological" in the most basic sense of being a smokescreen for procuring income. I don't believe syllable one about that "helping the poor" crap. It's all a big jobs program for sociology/poli sci majors and other assorted dregs of society.
Posted by: BS Inc. at July 16, 2012 06:37 PM (P2Ufm)
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 16, 2012 06:37 PM (QNT8x)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 16, 2012 06:38 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 06:38 PM (bwH3a)
Posted by: King Barry XIV at July 16, 2012 06:39 PM (UH0ly)
Posted by: Debbie Weaselwords Schultz at July 16, 2012 06:39 PM (e8kgV)
Bears re-sign Matt Forte for 4 years, 32 million
But remember, someone else made them successful
Posted by: kbdabear at July 16, 2012 06:39 PM (Y7XKa)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 06:40 PM (bwH3a)
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Poor people in America are generally fat. If they aren't obese that is.
Which is perhaps the perfect metaphor for government.
We solved the hunger problem...now we've made them all fat. So we need more money to make them not fat.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2012 06:40 PM (AUeaU)
In a workshop Friday at the Hackers On Planet Earth conference in New York, a German hacker and security consultant who goes by the name “Ray” demonstrated a looming problem for handcuff makers hoping to restrict the distribution of the keys that open their cuffs: With plastic copies he cheaply produced with a laser-cutter and a 3D printer, he was able to open handcuffs built by the German firm Bonowi and the English manufacturer Chubb, both of which attempt to control the distribution of their keys to keep them exclusively in the hands of authorized buyers such as law enforcement.
Posted by: Erik Weisz at July 16, 2012 06:40 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: eman at July 16, 2012 06:41 PM (dQL1K)
Posted by: Uncle Jim at July 16, 2012 06:41 PM (KZI7g)
Posted by: Thomas "Cliff" Friedman at July 16, 2012 06:41 PM (Y7XKa)
Posted by: Clemenza at July 16, 2012 06:42 PM (yNm6D)
Pros:
She's hot.
Cons:
Her username is "youfuckingmoron"
So...what kind of date should I ask her out on?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2012 06:42 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 06:42 PM (bwH3a)
Posted by: Uncle Jim at July 16, 2012 06:42 PM (KZI7g)
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Hey Barry, you get tired of that bitch America, you call me, k?
Posted by: Kal Penn at July 16, 2012 06:43 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 06:43 PM (bwH3a)
He remarked: "If the govt didn't fuck up so bad and cause these posh $500,000 cribs to be vacant, it would be harder to find a nice place to setup a shooting gallery, and we'd be in some low life slum on the other side of the tracks."
He was generally a big fan of Obama policies, but strictly for business reasons.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 16, 2012 06:44 PM (QNT8x)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 16, 2012 06:44 PM (9TTOe)
RLY?
Posted by: PJ at July 16, 2012 06:44 PM (DQHjw)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2012 06:44 PM (UH0ly)
Posted by: Erik Weisz at July 16, 2012 10:40 PM
Swallowing a ballpoint pen tip and shitting it out works just as well ..
Posted by: Hannibal Lecter at July 16, 2012 06:44 PM (Y7XKa)
Posted by: steevy at July 16, 2012 10:34 PM (6o4Fb)
;;;;
Dagny is on sabbatical?
Posted by: Meremortal at July 16, 2012 06:45 PM (qjH4X)
Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2012 06:45 PM (sdi6R)
Cheetah saves the day.
Posted by: Uncle Jim at July 16, 2012 06:45 PM (KZI7g)
Posted by: toby928© at July 16, 2012 06:46 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at July 16, 2012 06:46 PM (KZI7g)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 16, 2012 06:47 PM (9TTOe)
Honey Trapp?
Honey Pott?
?????
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 06:47 PM (bwH3a)
Posted by: cm9000 at July 16, 2012 06:48 PM (lzvtR)
Posted by: kbdabear at July 16, 2012 06:48 PM (Y7XKa)
I got my current job through a recruiter. He in fact got me two offers at the same time, and ended up pissing off the company I turned down when they found out he was handling me at both places (I didn't give up the secret).
I saved his ass though by finding him another candidate to fill the other role.
Now my ex company laid off a bunch of good people last week, and I can point them to the recruiter who got me placed. However...it seems that I might have some leverage, and a proven record, with this recruiter.
So how should I approach seeing if I can get something out of any placements he makes? Or am I being crazy and they don't do things like this?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2012 06:49 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 16, 2012 06:49 PM (QNT8x)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 16, 2012 06:50 PM (rX1N2)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 06:50 PM (bwH3a)
Posted by: toby928© at July 16, 2012 06:50 PM (QupBk)
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The most critical mistake conservatives have made in judging liberals is presuming they are merely naive and unrealistic.
The effects of their actions are not accidents, and they do not mean well.
As someone who has mingled with liberals for most of my life I can tell you first hand your average politically active liberal has a dark soul...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2012 06:51 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2012 10:49 PM (AUeaU) [/i]
I've heard of places that give a referral bonus to people. You can ask him if that's possible.
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2012 06:51 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 16, 2012 06:52 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Cowboy Bob at July 16, 2012 06:52 PM (LBQ+l)
Its common for recruiters to pay a finders fee for referrals. $100/head is pretty typical unless its high powered unique talent.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 16, 2012 06:52 PM (QNT8x)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 16, 2012 06:53 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: The Jackhole at July 16, 2012 06:53 PM (DU15A)
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at July 16, 2012 06:53 PM (KZI7g)
Posted by: Letter to Penthouse Forum at July 16, 2012 06:54 PM (Y7XKa)
However, they are amazingly insular. There is a lot they don't know. They really believe people who oppose Obama are racists. They believe it like an axiom in geometry.
They really believe conservatives hate poor people, and like war, and all that bullshit. And if you talk to them and explain how wrong their worldview is, they assume you're lying.
It's not evil, not all of them. A lot of them are just stupid, and a vast number of them are incredibly self-absorbed.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 16, 2012 06:54 PM (51f3d)
http://tinyurl.com/8xgo4jq
Remember your cardio and double-tap. And dressing up as a zombie for Halloween is right out.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 06:55 PM (bwH3a)
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Feel free.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2012 06:55 PM (AUeaU)
ThatÂ’s at first glance, at least. Two experts who recently scoured Section 1401 think they found something huge: a missing word that could undercut the Affordable Care ActÂ’s promise of affordable health insurance.
Case Western Reserve UniversityÂ’s Jonathan Adler and Cato InstituteÂ’s Michael Cannon argue in a new paper that any federally-established health insurance exchange does not have the authority to dole out health insurance subsidies. Those subsidies are important: They are the $800 billion in tax credits meant to subsidize coverage for low- and middle-income Americans.
If that is true — and it’s worth noting that the Obama administration, along with a number of legal scholars, argue that it is not — it would significantly curtail the Affordable Care Act’s ability to do what it’s supposed to do: make health care affordable. And that puts Section 1401 at the center of a burgeoning debate over what Congress meant when it wrote the Affordable Care Act, and how that effects its ultimate implementation.
Posted by: Erik Weisz at July 16, 2012 06:55 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: toby928© at July 16, 2012 06:55 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2012 06:55 PM (UH0ly)
Posted by: You Know Who at July 16, 2012 06:55 PM (196B4)
Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2012 10:52 PM (sdi6R)
Same here. A buddy of mine talked me into going to see it for the very reason that Helen Mirren supposedly had some nude shots. I wasn't disappointed.
The movie actually wasn't that bad either from what little I recall.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 16, 2012 06:56 PM (rX1N2)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 16, 2012 06:56 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 16, 2012 06:57 PM (vDl/w)
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Did they know you weren't a liberal?
Being a closeted conservative has a few perks when it comes to really understanding the liberal mind.
But you have to be able to ignore the most racist, vile things that you can imagine on a regular basis...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2012 06:57 PM (AUeaU)
Thanks everyone for the info last night. Now I have a different question.
Has anyone worked for Disney at Disney World? For some reason my three youngest kids have decided that when they turn 20, 18, and 16 they would like to live and work in Florida and since they're all very out-going and hard workkers I suggested Disney. Is there anything they should think about over the next eight years to make that more likely to happen?
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 16, 2012 06:57 PM (h6HiH)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 06:58 PM (bwH3a)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 16, 2012 06:58 PM (JKNDp)
That's the evil. They assume the other side can't possibly operate honestly, because they're incapable of doing so themselves.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 16, 2012 06:58 PM (QNT8x)
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I think she is a lovely and were I single I would definitely hit on him, uhhhh, her.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2012 06:59 PM (AUeaU)
Has anyone worked for Disney at Disney World? For some reason my three youngest kids have decided that when they turn 20, 18, and 16 they would like to live and work in Florida and since they're all very out-going and hard workkers I suggested Disney. Is there anything they should think about over the next eight years to make that more likely to happen?
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 16, 2012 10:57 PM (h6HiH)
Trying out for the high school mascot?
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2012 06:59 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: 18-1
Referral bonuses? I don't know if it's a common practice, but it's worth asking.
Posted by: Dianna at July 16, 2012 06:59 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 07:00 PM (bwH3a)
Posted by: Kratos at July 16, 2012 07:01 PM (c1WVm)
They look a lot more alike now.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 16, 2012 07:01 PM (xKC/c)
If you succeeded, it's not you who made it happen. And if you failed, that likewise was not your fault, because it was Bush's fault.
At least I'm consistent.
Posted by: Barry O. at July 16, 2012 07:01 PM (xf3DG)
I remember Disney world had a young girl dressed in white with flat white make-up on. She stood perfectly still like a statue and then, when some one wasn't ready would reach for them. It was kinda creepy.
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 16, 2012 07:01 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 16, 2012 07:02 PM (9TTOe)
Get savvy on computers, automation, remote telemetry, robotics, and security systems.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 16, 2012 07:03 PM (QNT8x)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 16, 2012 07:03 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 16, 2012 07:03 PM (9TTOe)
The effects of their actions are not accidents, and they do not mean well.
As someone who has mingled with liberals for most of my life I can tell you first hand your average politically active liberal has a dark soul...
Totalitarians aren't generally persons of good will... Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2012 10:55 PM
There's nothing "liberal" about them anymore, since they're fully supportive of using the power of the state to enforce its will.
I call them Leftists or Statists, they're not liberal in the classic sense of the word
Posted by: kbdabear at July 16, 2012 07:03 PM (Y7XKa)
Posted by: t-bird at July 16, 2012 07:04 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Jean at July 16, 2012 07:04 PM (vJB3O)
g'evenin', Dr.Kratos
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 16, 2012 11:03 PM (JMmQ9)
I once drove past a trailer with an Adam West Batmobile on it on the interstate. If I wasn't driving I'd have snapped a picture. It was cool.
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2012 07:06 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at July 16, 2012 07:06 PM (jts1f)
Posted by: Rick James, bitch! at July 16, 2012 07:06 PM (UH0ly)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 16, 2012 07:06 PM (JMmQ9)
Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 16, 2012 10:57 PM
Walt did something different in Florida, he was tired of people driving by street walkers in Anaheim to get to the Magic Kingdome, In FLA he created the Redey Creek Industrial Park and Incorporated an entire area as a part of the State. He also moved a pretty bitchin' tree to the center of operations.
Anaheim gives a lot of clout to Disney, but Olrando rolls over so they can scratch their belly...
Posted by: KZnextzone at July 16, 2012 07:07 PM (UXEgP)
"Rum is still alive and doing well for all keeping score."
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Send her our best. What there is of it.
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 16, 2012 07:07 PM (JKNDp)
No one else in this household reads sociology for amusement, so I'm stumped as to why it's gone wandering.
Posted by: Dianna at July 16, 2012 07:07 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2012 07:07 PM (GULKT)
As a practical matter, there would be little difference between them and the theocracy they frequently whine about. A theocracy might even be more free in that it wouldn't be interested in invading every single aspect of life, like putting sensors in your trash bins to make sure you sorted the recyclables (which is happening in Britain right now)
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 16, 2012 07:08 PM (QNT8x)
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Never saw enough of the '60s Batman series to appreciate that manifestation of Batman. However, Batman - The Animated Series was the greatest kids show I've ever seen. It didn't talk down to or condescend to kids and it had very good story lines. Posted by: Kratos at July 16, 2012 07:08 PM (c1WVm)
Now EPCOT would be cool.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 07:08 PM (bwH3a)
Posted by: Ma Bell at July 16, 2012 07:10 PM (uVuwp)
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 16, 2012 10:54 PM (51f3d)
They are not all evil, I'll grant you that, but evil, stupid, craven, parasitic and the on the take all combine to make the sum total of today's Democrat Party.
Posted by: cm9000 at July 16, 2012 07:10 PM (lzvtR)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 07:10 PM (bwH3a)
Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2012 07:10 PM (HWUv9)
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It is interesting to observe the liberal perception of reality - namely that it is highly malleable.
Thoughts are more important then actions, and can by themselves remake the universe.
And oh how they rail against the reality that is. As observed of one other liberal of some renown, they would rather rule in their own hell then recognize the futility of their rebellion.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2012 07:10 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 16, 2012 07:10 PM (JMmQ9)
Sodom and Gomorrah, population 0 are 100% carbon neutral these days.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 16, 2012 07:10 PM (QNT8x)
Posted by: Kratos at July 16, 2012 07:13 PM (c1WVm)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 11:10 PM (bwH3a)
I think the new series Young Justice, works in a vein similar to Batman The Animated Series. Definitely has its moments of humor and somewhat kiddy but definitely holds a serious tone overall.
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2012 07:13 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2012 07:13 PM (UH0ly)
Posted by: Scobface at July 16, 2012 07:13 PM (IoNBC)
I've never been much of a computer gamer and have never owned any of the gaming consoles. I'm old school and prefer to do my wargaming either with tabletop miniatures or boardgames.
Pay over $1 million for games? I thought I was living on the edge when I ponied up a few hundred dollars for several mint condition wargames published in the 1980s.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop in solidarity with dagny at July 16, 2012 07:15 PM (M0NzJ)
Last woman I met from online dating is in her fifties, is in school to complete her doctorate, doesn't ever shave her legs, and has a daughter who got her undergrad degree last year in Feminist Studies. Said daughter now works selling shoes at the mall.
Nearly bit my tongue clean through to keep a straight face.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 16, 2012 07:15 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 16, 2012 07:15 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 07:16 PM (bwH3a)
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I have had it with these motherfucking rapists on this motherfucking planet!
Posted by: Samuel L Jackson at July 16, 2012 07:16 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2012 07:16 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2012 07:16 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2012 07:17 PM (HWUv9)
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I am trying out a new site. Most of the women seem to be around 30. I got the service for free for a month, so we'll see how it goes.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2012 07:17 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 16, 2012 07:17 PM (JMmQ9)
Liberals? Misunderstood? Sure, at least one or two. Probably.
Let me tell you about the times I have been threatened, intimidated, attacked, and insulted by those mis-informed liberals.
My brother-in-law for 34 years? Choked me over a political disagreement. I try to put that behind me, but really. Fuck that guy. I've really had it with him.
This fat, overweight, obnoxious old liberal guy that is supposed to work for me? Tries to stir up shit every time you give him half a chance. If it was up to me, I'd fire his ass. He makes me so sick I'm just about to quit because I really can't stand his shit anymore.
The world is full of these assholes. And you know what? Obama isn't even a liberal. These morons that support him? He and his allies would eat them for breakfast to stay in power. He's an undemocratic lying leftist shit weasel.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at July 16, 2012 07:18 PM (sJTmU)
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What's your process? Diet? Exercise?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2012 07:18 PM (AUeaU)
http://www.hlj.com/product/DRAH38109
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 07:18 PM (bwH3a)
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2012 10:59 PM (GULKT)
Given that we're homeschooling, that is either very possible or completely impossible, depending on how we want to work things.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 11:00 PM (bwH3a)
Entry level jobs I suppose. What Disney's looking for in employees, particularly princess actresses and such. What sort of jobs they have for young men as well.
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 16, 2012 07:18 PM (h6HiH)
Not only did Obama denigrate business, he also took a gratuitous swipe at ANYONE who has successfully accomplished anything that required persistence and effort.
He included ALL of us.
Posted by: irongrampa at July 16, 2012 07:18 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 16, 2012 07:18 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Dianna at July 16, 2012 07:19 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 07:19 PM (bwH3a)
Posted by: t-bird at July 16, 2012 07:20 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2012 07:20 PM (HWUv9)
Jesus? And whatever the fuck he actually claimed to do? Bullshit! And the guys was like, uh, three people are something anyway.
Posted by: Barack Obama at July 16, 2012 07:20 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 16, 2012 11:03 PM (9TTOe)
They're not necessarily thinking as life-long careers, just a relatively (I hope) safe way to get experience and meet lots of people. My middle daughter could make a hobby just of meeting new people, so getting paid for it would be heaven in her view.
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 16, 2012 07:22 PM (h6HiH)
***
I know the feeling.
Posted by: Zeus at July 16, 2012 07:22 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: irongrampa
I noticed that. Evidently, we're all sneaks and thieves.
Projection?
Posted by: Dianna at July 16, 2012 07:22 PM (mKMj1)
***
What's your process? Diet? Exercise?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2012 11:18 PM (AUeaU)
***
Methamphetamine.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 16, 2012 07:22 PM (61yvg)
"Not everything the U.N. does is evil. Some of it is just incompetent."
Well, they've managed not to loot their own cafeteria again for almost a whole decade, so there's that.
Posted by: 66chevelle at July 16, 2012 07:24 PM (QjSgY)
Let's face it, Charlie Sheen is a dick but this is about as good a way as any to recover your image in the eyes of the American People.
.
http://tinyurl.com/bqxe4dt
.
Giving up coke and beating hookers would also help.
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 16, 2012 07:24 PM (JKNDp)
I remember that at Disneyland there were tour guides, at least when I was a kid. That might be a wonderful job to look at, if your daughter has any languages besides English.
Posted by: Dianna at July 16, 2012 07:24 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: KZnextzone at July 16, 2012 11:07 PM (UXEgP)
Sorry, I must be more tired than I realized since I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me.
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 16, 2012 07:25 PM (h6HiH)
Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2012 07:25 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2012 07:26 PM (HWUv9)
*Protected by the famous Penis Lock®
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 16, 2012 07:26 PM (ccXZP)
Cant say I've eve worked with any rapists, as far as I know. Then again I have spent my entire working life in the private sector.
Posted by: cm9000 at July 16, 2012 07:26 PM (lzvtR)
If they volunteer to cancel their own carbon emissions first, to set a good example of course, I'll promise to follow them. Really, I will. *snort*
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 16, 2012 07:26 PM (QNT8x)
Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2012 07:26 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 16, 2012 07:27 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: kbdabear at July 16, 2012 11:03 PM (Y7XKa)
----------->>>
I agree. The Leftists usurped the label "liberal" in order to obfuscate. I have made a conscious effort to no longer call the Marxist/Progressive/Statists liberals because they are collectivists.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop in solidarity with dagny at July 16, 2012 07:27 PM (M0NzJ)
Posted by: moki at July 16, 2012 07:28 PM (dZmFh)
Posted by: Kratos at July 16, 2012 11:13 PM (c1WVm)
That must be a *very* good cause, given the Twitter flurry about bronies a couple of months ago.
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 16, 2012 07:28 PM (h6HiH)
Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2012 07:28 PM (HWUv9)
Hi Mr X,
Its been a while since we've chatted - [my new company] has been keeping me pretty busy since you helped place me here.
I wanted to touch base with you since I think I might know a number of talented individuals in the software development field looking for a career change in the near term and I was wonder what [your company's] policy on referrals might be? Some I will probably be able to place at [my current company], but hiring has slowed down here currently, so having other options for them would likely be in everyone's interest.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2012 07:28 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Hopped up on Something at July 16, 2012 07:28 PM (+/EHj)
Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2012 07:29 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: KZnextzone at July 16, 2012 07:29 PM (UXEgP)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 07:30 PM (bwH3a)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 07:30 PM (bwH3a)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 11:30 PM (bwH3a)
There were Bronies at Comic-con this year.
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2012 07:30 PM (GULKT)
If (output < intake)
LoseWeight();
else if (output == intake)
MaintainWeight();
else GainWeight();
Its that simple. Everything else is bullshit.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 16, 2012 07:30 PM (QNT8x)
***
Cuz we all know that schools weren't built from bricks and wood made in private factories. The roads weren't constructed with gravel and tar from private companies. Bridges weren't made from steel and concrete that comes from large private corporations. Nope, the government makes all of it's own shit in it's entirety.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 16, 2012 07:31 PM (61yvg)
Posted by: Kratos at July 16, 2012 07:31 PM (c1WVm)
http://tinyurl.com/cbsa9k7
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2012 07:31 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Dianna at July 16, 2012 11:24 PM (mKMj1)
She's only 10 right now, and they may well change their minds in the meantime, but is trying to decide which languages she'd like to learn.
I figure that even if they *do* change their minds, anything encouraging them to become more "rounded" won't be a complete waste.
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 16, 2012 07:33 PM (h6HiH)
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 16, 2012 11:33 PM (QNT8x)
Every marriage that doesn't end in divorce, ends in death.
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2012 07:34 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 16, 2012 07:34 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 16, 2012 11:27 PM (9TTOe)
Thanks for the heads-up on that. This is why I turned to the Horde even before looking on the website. I know I'll find the *mechanism* for them to enroll on the site but here I'll learn what the reality is.
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 16, 2012 07:36 PM (h6HiH)
http://www.hlj.com/product/MGY34284
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 07:37 PM (bwH3a)
"See that man/woman over there? They have more than you do. That's not fair!" seems to sum up Obama pretty well.
Posted by: Theresa at July 16, 2012 07:38 PM (36Yg+)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 16, 2012 11:01 PM (JKNDp)
"I remember Disney world had a young girl dressed in white with flat white make-up on. She stood perfectly still like a statue and then, when some one wasn't ready would reach for them. It was kinda creepy."
The London Wax Museum in St. Pete used to have some Wax figures dressed like ordinary people sitting in chairs inside the museum. They also had some empty chairs inside the museum. My sister and I got the shit scared out of us when she touched some prankster sitting in a chair--or employee, I don't know--on the head, and he suddenly turned toward her. I think we skipped the Chamber of Horrors that year.
Posted by: 66chevelle at July 16, 2012 07:38 PM (QjSgY)
If you got some Latin, you got the tools to pick up any romance language fairly easily. That, and Mandarin.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 16, 2012 07:38 PM (QNT8x)
Posted by: The Dude at July 16, 2012 07:38 PM (tw6Ar)
Dating does suck, I admit it. And getting involved with the wrong person is a disaster.
However, meeting the right person helps.
And I'll never cut my hair off, even as it goes all silver, it will still flow down my back, and wind around the shirt buttons of complete strangers.
Posted by: Dianna at July 16, 2012 07:38 PM (mKMj1)
Guess who is dating Kate Upton.............Justin Verlander.
Like I needed a reason to hate that guy more.
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2012 07:38 PM (RQxpZ)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 16, 2012 07:38 PM (9TTOe)
<<< So, how was the sex? Did you have to machete your way into her squatch, like Michael Douglas in Romancing The Stone?
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 16, 2012 07:39 PM (JDIKC)
Married men are (statistically, anyway) happier, healthier, and have better sex lives.
That survey was 90% married women respondants.
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2012 07:40 PM (RQxpZ)
***
Apparently no one told my ex.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2012 07:40 PM (AUeaU)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 16, 2012 07:40 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: AltonJackson is a NL fan living in an AL market at July 16, 2012 07:40 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 07:41 PM (bwH3a)
Posted by: 4 out of five married female dentists agree! at July 16, 2012 07:41 PM (RQxpZ)
I have a rich flying buddy who paid $5,000 for a painted porcelain cat because someone convinced him it was "art" rather than something you'd pick up for $4 at the swap meet.
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 16, 2012 07:42 PM (QNT8x)
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 16, 2012 11:38 PM (QNT8x)
Indeed. "English From the Roots Up" it's one of the curriculum books I'm very much looking forward to this year. The oldest is going to sit in on those classes since she still struggles with her pre/suf-fixes.
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 16, 2012 07:42 PM (h6HiH)
Posted by: 18-1
*Sigh*
Yeah, my guy's still pretty damned bitter about his first marriage, too. I defined it as, she chewed him up, spit him out, and stomped on him in high heels a few times.
Posted by: Dianna at July 16, 2012 07:42 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: Kratos at July 16, 2012 07:42 PM (c1WVm)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 16, 2012 07:42 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 16, 2012 07:43 PM (bwH3a)
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 16, 2012 11:42 PM (QNT8x)
That is exactly the reason I *really* wish I'd taken marketing classes instead of art classes when getting my associate degree.
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 16, 2012 07:44 PM (h6HiH)
It had best be with the wife. It's safer, that way, to say nothing of less horrifyingly expensive.
Posted by: Dianna at July 16, 2012 07:44 PM (mKMj1)
I've always said that too.
Mmm. Good chowdah!
Posted by: robert f kennedy jr at July 16, 2012 07:45 PM (vDl/w)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 16, 2012 07:45 PM (JMmQ9)
Every time I think I've found the right one, she won't put the fucking lotion on.
Posted by: Hannibal Lechter at July 16, 2012 07:45 PM (QNT8x)
Ha!
Posted by: Dianna at July 16, 2012 07:45 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: cm9000 at July 16, 2012 07:45 PM (lzvtR)
That Tastykakes, Hostess, Little Debbie talk from earlier is haunting me.
If you put a Suzy Q and Kate Upton in front of me, right now, I don't know which one I'd eat first.
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2012 07:48 PM (RQxpZ)
Posted by: Hannibal Lechter
I thought that was Jaime what's-his-nose?
But I always flunk Pop Culture 101.
Posted by: Dianna at July 16, 2012 07:49 PM (mKMj1)
If you put a Suzy Q and Kate Upton in front of me, right now, I don't know which one I'd eat first.
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2012 11:48 PM (RQxpZ)
fill her up with some OG banana creme and eat both at the same time
Posted by: The Dude at July 16, 2012 07:49 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 16, 2012 11:39 PM (JDIKC)
LOL. There will be no attempt made to blaze a trail, as it were.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 16, 2012 07:50 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: The Dude at July 16, 2012 07:50 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: t-bird at July 16, 2012 07:52 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 16, 2012 07:52 PM (rPbKT)
73.8% of people know that.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 16, 2012 11:50 PM (vDl/w)
The Statistician's Blues http://tinyurl.com/6am9tuv
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2012 07:52 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 16, 2012 07:53 PM (rPbKT)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 16, 2012 11:53 PM (rPbKT)
Looking to place blame and blackball you?
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2012 07:55 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Ellie Lurker at July 16, 2012 07:56 PM (7X3Kd)
I'm trying to figure out how it could benefit him to say I jumped ship to someone else when it's so easily refutable... Or how he got the false impression that it's the truth. <<<
Ask him.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 16, 2012 07:56 PM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 16, 2012 07:56 PM (rPbKT)
I want to see that result pounded into their faces over and over. Until it makes them nauseous.
And then I want them to have to watch as we go about the task of ridding the country of their malevolent influence.
And I will laugh and jeer at them as it happens.
Posted by: irongrampa at July 16, 2012 07:56 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: honey Badger #5 at July 16, 2012 07:57 PM (RQjPS)
And with that happy thought, I shall admit the dogs won't walk themselves.
Good night!
Posted by: Dianna at July 16, 2012 07:59 PM (mKMj1)
Sounds like working for a politician has been less rewarding than you thought it would be. Whoda thunk it?
Posted by: cm9000 at July 16, 2012 07:59 PM (lzvtR)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 16, 2012 07:59 PM (rPbKT)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 16, 2012 08:00 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: jake in ID at July 16, 2012 08:02 PM (RQjPS)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 17, 2012 12:00 AM (9TTOe)
You ever watch the Roast of him on Comedy Central and he does come off at the end that he was just doing this and having a good time doing it, not actually going down any more of a selfdestructive path than he had been previously.
Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2012 08:03 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 16, 2012 08:04 PM (rPbKT)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at July 16, 2012 08:05 PM (nZvGM)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 16, 2012 08:08 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: The Dude at July 16, 2012 08:08 PM (tw6Ar)
When you make practically every thing illegal, all of a sudden, everyone needs a lawyer.
Posted by: navybrat at July 16, 2012 08:09 PM (+2lbb)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 16, 2012 08:09 PM (rPbKT)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 16, 2012 08:11 PM (JMmQ9)
It wasn't Hope and Change that "fundamentally transformed" this nation into a socialist utopia. It was the roads and bridges.
Posted by: gastorgrab at July 16, 2012 08:11 PM (FX38i)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 16, 2012 08:15 PM (rPbKT)
Posted by: jake in ID at July 16, 2012 08:17 PM (RQjPS)
Trust me, I am more than ready to go Galt.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at July 16, 2012 08:18 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 17, 2012 12:04 AM (rPbKT)
There may be a spot for you on the Romney campaign. Rumor has it they are revving up a tough as nails rapid response team. If Obama calls Romney a felon, Romney will request an apology, If Obama says Romney clubs baby seals, Romney will point to all the car trips he took sans Seamus on the roof.
Posted by: cm9000 at July 16, 2012 08:18 PM (lzvtR)
Posted by: Habitually Pessimistic at July 16, 2012 08:21 PM (gFj4g)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 16, 2012 08:22 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 16, 2012 08:26 PM (vDl/w)
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 16, 2012 10:57 PM (h6HiH)
My daughter, who is now 30, did a summer there between her freshman and sophomore years in college. She probably did it because we were a big "Disney family". (Nothing wrong with that!). She hated it, but loved it. They pay a pittance, and work you like a rented mule. But, experience! I would say go for it, but it's hard, and not appreciated. Just like life, so, yeah, go for it. Can't hurt, might help, and you get a real awakening about real life masquerading as fantasy. Your kids won't be naive after the experience, that's for sure. I believe that is always good!
Posted by: Kalneva at July 16, 2012 08:27 PM (cQmXn)
I'd like to hear more about this cleavage.
Posted by: Waterhouse still has Kate on the brain at July 16, 2012 08:27 PM (sC+qB)
"Given the choice between suicide and murder, I choose to murder. You."
Posted by: navybrat at July 16, 2012 08:28 PM (+2lbb)
Posted by: Kratos at July 16, 2012 11:42 PM (c1WVm)
I thought her squeakhole was her most important asset?
Posted by: MrCaniac at July 16, 2012 08:28 PM (1grxW)
I agree with your premise but somehow, no one ever seems to list any of the reasons why the argument is wrong.
I'd be interested in hearing a few of those reasons for rebuttals to those who don't agree.
Posted by: jakee308 at July 16, 2012 08:29 PM (pASI9)
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at July 16, 2012 08:29 PM (j5b23)
100 Thanks everyone for the info last night. Now I have a different question. Has anyone worked for Disney at Disney World? For some reason my three youngest kids have decided that when they turn 20, 18, and 16 they would like to live and work in Florida and since they're all very out-going and hard workkers I suggested Disney. Is there anything they should think about over the next eight years to make that more likely to happen?
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 16, 2012 10:57 PM (h6HiH)
Disney has high recruiting standards depending on what type of job they want to work. If they want to compete to be a Disney character, they will look at their school grades, any volunteer work, extra-curricular activities, etc.
So our President wouldn't qualify. Not even as Odumbo.
Posted by: Cheri at July 16, 2012 08:32 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: jake in ID at July 16, 2012 08:32 PM (RQjPS)
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at July 16, 2012 08:34 PM (j5b23)
Posted by: sch in schoonerlogt at July 16, 2012 08:35 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at July 16, 2012 08:35 PM (j5b23)
Posted by: jake in ID at July 16, 2012 08:36 PM (RQjPS)
Trust me, I am more than ready to go Galt.
Not meaning to pick on you, but what could you possibly be waiting for? In all seriousness, that quote from Obama is probably the most evil sentence that has ever been uttered by a President of the United States. It is a complete rejection of the value of the individual human being. The attitude of "Well, if he gets re-ected, then, by golly, I'll really be upset" doesn't cut it. The motor of the world needs to stop NOW. I understand people's desire to provide for their families, but anything beyond that is cooperation with your own hangman.
Sure, maybe I'm just psyched because I just watched Atlas Shrugged on DVD (and was reminded that Breitbart was in the background in the anniversary party scene). But I started my own version of going Galt years ago, and it's getting lonely out here.
Posted by: somebody else, not me at July 16, 2012 08:36 PM (nZvGM)
Posted by: torabora at July 16, 2012 08:37 PM (QLraV)
Posted by: jake in ID at July 16, 2012 08:38 PM (RQjPS)
Posted by: The Gnarled Cock of Frank Marshall Davis at July 16, 2012 08:38 PM (j5b23)
Posted by: The Gnarled Cock of Frank Marshall Davis at July 16, 2012 08:39 PM (j5b23)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 16, 2012 08:39 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: jake in ID at July 16, 2012 08:40 PM (RQjPS)
Can't get limbaugh during the day and it wasn't on his site.
So what are some of the reasons that argument is wrong?
Posted by: jakee308 at July 16, 2012 08:40 PM (pASI9)
Posted by: Slim pickens at July 16, 2012 08:42 PM (ceOGc)
Posted by: t-bird at July 16, 2012 08:43 PM (FcR7P)
His narcissism makes him think he did, but it was really us. He's a useful vessel.
Posted by: Obama's shadow commie handlers at July 16, 2012 08:44 PM (QNT8x)
Posted by: UN Peacekeeper at July 16, 2012 08:45 PM (eaiMl)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 16, 2012 08:45 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Fox 2! at July 16, 2012 08:45 PM (RJOgX)
Posted by: Zombie Howard Marshall II at July 16, 2012 08:47 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: David C. at July 16, 2012 08:49 PM (ZtMso)
Motor Trend's Car of the Year has included such junkpiles as;
71 Chevy Vega, 74 Ford Mustang II, 75 Chevy Monza 2+2, 76 Plymouth Volare, 77 Chevy Caprice, 78 Dodge Omni, 80 Chevy Citation, 81 Plymouth Reliant, 83 AMC Alliance, 1990 Lincoln Town Car
Posted by: kbdabear at July 16, 2012 08:49 PM (Y7XKa)
Posted by: kbdabear at July 17, 2012 12:49 AM (Y7XKa)
other than 71, those years sucked hard when it comes to cars
Posted by: The Dude at July 16, 2012 08:51 PM (tw6Ar)
Since the SCOAMF didn't cite it, I doubt it's favorable to the SBA
Posted by: kbdabear at July 16, 2012 08:54 PM (Y7XKa)
The argument is wrong because its really dumb. You only have things because the Government takes half of your money, if you actually work for a living, or something.
Posted by: cm9000 at July 16, 2012 08:54 PM (lzvtR)
Posted by: Barakus Obamus I at July 16, 2012 08:55 PM (FcR7P)
So what are some of the reasons that argument is wrong?
Posted by: jakee308 at July 17, 2012 12:40 AM (pASI9)
The Obama argument is that success only comes through collective action and the individual is unimportant. But everyone has the same access to the public goods that Obama credits for success (even though a smaller and smaller portion of the public actually pays for those goods). So the fact that one person utilizes those opportunities to make himself successful while another doesn't, doesn't mean that the unsuccessful one was cheated out of anything and has a claim on the rewards of another. He had his chance and either by choice or luck didn't achieve what the other did. There is no injustice to be remedied.
Posted by: somebody else, not me at July 16, 2012 08:56 PM (nZvGM)
Posted by: jake in ID at July 16, 2012 08:56 PM (RQjPS)
Posted by: jake in ID at July 16, 2012 08:59 PM (RQjPS)
Monza 2+2, 76 Plymouth Volare, 77 Chevy Caprice, 78 Dodge Omni, 80 Chevy
Citation, 81 Plymouth Reliant, 83 AMC Alliance, 1990 Lincoln Town Car
Posted by: kbdabear at July 17, 2012 12:49 AM (Y7XKa)
other than 71, those years sucked hard when it comes to cars
Posted by: The Dude at July 17, 2012 12:51 AM
Sure, most cars made during those years would come in behind a wagonload of bricks, but those were bad cars even for those years.
The Volare? Come on, they could have at least named the Cordoba with its rich Corinthian leather
Posted by: kbdabear at July 16, 2012 09:01 PM (Y7XKa)
"I agree with your premise but somehow, no one ever seems to list any of the reasons why the argument is wrong."
The argument is self evidently fallacious, but since you can't seem to work that out, here you go:
President Obama's argument is that since nobody is 100% totally alone and self-made, then rich people should pay more in taxes, since government was behind all that stuff they built themselves up on.
That's it, that's why he even brought this up. The problem isn't that we disagree that everyone had to lean on someone else, its the idea that everyone had to lean on the government.
For example, Hershey didn't become a multi-millionaire making tasty chocolate bars because the federal government helped him, he did so because he worked hard. The people who helped him get there WERE PAID FOR THEIR HELP because that's how the free market works.
Nobody is an island, nobody is totally self-made. But government didn't make them, either, and almost in every case the people who did were compensated for their efforts.
President Obama wants the people who pay the vast bulk of taxes to pay EVEN MORE because he argues they didn't make it on their own. Which is irrelevant to taxation, pointless in this context, and simply an idiotic argument for increased taxes, given the amount paid now.
And since you could tax every single penny every single person alive making more than $250000 a year makes for the whole year and still only pay for a few weeks on the INTEREST ALONE of the national debt, its simply meaningless.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 16, 2012 09:05 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: kbdabear at July 16, 2012 09:06 PM (Y7XKa)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 16, 2012 09:07 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: kbdabear at July 16, 2012 09:14 PM (Y7XKa)
What might Leonardo Da Vinci have done if given an RandD organization of the sort that Edison pioneered? Da Vinci existed in a world where his ability to devote time to his interests depended on a small set of wealthy patrons. A free and prosperous society allows the talented to do more. Nobody, least of all a government, can predict where that next bright spark with a big idea will appear. We can only seek to build the best world for ourselves and try not to be in the way when that person comes along.
It may be an advance in treating cancer. It might be a hot new style trend in women's shoes. No matter how frivolous it might seem to some, if it generates economic activity, there is benefit to all. Government has never been able to generate economic activity other than in those areas which are its defined duties, such as a product that may be useful tot he military and nobody else. For the vast majority of human endeavors the best thing the government can do is not attempt to understand it too early and especially not try to help, as that is all too often indistinguishable from intentional hindrance.
Posted by: epobirs at July 16, 2012 09:18 PM (kcfmt)
Ask yourself why all the Occupoopers don't run successful businesses, if all it takes is a grotesquely-large government writing reams of self-contradictory regulations?
The government doesn't supply the ideas, planning, drive, risk-taking, sweat and toil it takes to start up and run a successful business. Government is dependent on the owners of those businesses, and ought to be extremely fucking careful of creating a situation where it's no longer worthwhile to them to put in what it takes to bring an innovation to fruition. Not to mention that, once they're running a successful business, the "somebody else" in Obama's idiotic formulation who's supplying the vast majority of tax revenue to build that road or bridge or (far more often) paying the salary of whichever insulated bureaucratic shithead decided they need to cream off some money to pay for a wind turbine so that electrical power generation can be less reliable and cost eight times, is, hey!, that same business owner.
I leave you with a Heinlein quote:
Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded- here and there, now and then- are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.This is known as "bad luck.
Posted by: Waterhouse at July 16, 2012 09:18 PM (sC+qB)
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 16, 2012 09:20 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: Bankerman at July 16, 2012 09:21 PM (1X6lU)
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at July 16, 2012 09:22 PM (jts1f)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 16, 2012 09:24 PM (qmMAj)
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at July 16, 2012 09:25 PM (jts1f)
Should we put an 'Ambition Tax' on our roads to level everything out?
How can things be both "fair" and "equal" at the same time? Paying a 'fair share' and paying an 'equal share' are not the same thing, are they?
If freedom is the right to be different from everyone else, does that not include a different level of wealth? If everything in our lives is quantifiable with money, do we have the right to choose anything?
Posted by: gastorgrab at July 16, 2012 09:25 PM (FX38i)
Posted by: Barakus Obamus I at July 16, 2012 09:26 PM (FcR7P)
Will my ObamaCare doctor be a 'Fellow Traveler' as well? Could i have someone else?
Posted by: gastorgrab at July 16, 2012 09:29 PM (FX38i)
They went on strike today in SF.
Completely shut down the courts.
Posted by: navybrat at July 16, 2012 09:31 PM (+2lbb)
Posted by: Baraka O'Douche at July 16, 2012 09:35 PM (FcR7P)
One or two fine points. The Omni/Horizon had some VW powerplants available some years, but the design was all Chrysler. The front wheel drive system was developed by Simca/Chrysler France and used for many years in their Euro products.
But, who the hell cares......
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 16, 2012 09:35 PM (wvPRq)
Not much going on this time of night
Time to hit the hay again and hope the shoulder lets me sleep the sleep of the just.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 16, 2012 09:45 PM (wvPRq)
Through oppressive regulation, they are however extremely efficient at guaranteeing where it CAN'T appear.
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 16, 2012 09:46 PM (NYYV0)
It's the only sort of thing they can predictably do. Which is the main reason to fear those who believe in activist government. I've long been suspicious of anyone describing themselves as an activist, even if they claim to be on my side of the issue at hand.
The first and best lesson I got about economics was that the only thing you can reliably do to an economy is damage it. The good stuff has to be allowed to figure itself out.
Posted by: epobirs at July 16, 2012 09:51 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: jake in ID at July 16, 2012 09:55 PM (RQjPS)
"activist" is just code for "seeker of power over others"
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 16, 2012 10:04 PM (NYYV0)
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 16, 2012 10:08 PM (NYYV0)
Posted by: jake in ID at July 16, 2012 10:12 PM (RQjPS)
Posted by: jake in ID at July 16, 2012 10:14 PM (RQjPS)
Posted by: jake in ID at July 16, 2012 10:15 PM (RQjPS)
Posted by: jake in ID at July 16, 2012 10:16 PM (RQjPS)
Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2012 11:00 PM (4ixH5)
But that's just a fantasy.
I'm just talking to myself, aren't I?
Posted by: Yes you are, now shut up and get me a beer at July 16, 2012 11:09 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: zeera at July 16, 2012 11:45 PM (XtxRN)
Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2012 11:51 PM (4ixH5)
http://tinyurl.com/7m3yl38
The French have had a private space industry since 19fucking80?
We're lagging behind the fucking FRENCH?!?!?!
Posted by: Robert at July 16, 2012 11:55 PM (4ixH5)
But it does work...and that's all I want.
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 17, 2012 12:19 AM (NYYV0)
Posted by: epobirs at July 17, 2012 12:37 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: zeera at July 17, 2012 12:52 AM (XtxRN)
Barack Obama is a direct product of the welfare state. People, in his point of view, can never do anything except through government..When every opportunity and every meal and every opportunity, of a person from a broken family, comes through government, they begin to see government as the center of the family unit. Obama's daddy, whomever he might be :-) , was a drunken, abusive asshole who abandoned his family. And now the adult Barry is a product of that distorted reality.
This is a member of LBJ's 'Great Society'.
Posted by: gastorgrab at July 17, 2012 12:57 AM (FX38i)
Posted by: zeera at July 17, 2012 01:01 AM (XtxRN)
Posted by: zeera at July 17, 2012 01:06 AM (XtxRN)
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2012 01:15 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: zeera at July 17, 2012 05:06 AM (XtxRN)
Rum was the friggin' CHAMP at that, man. Chick could zero in on that thing from the back while posting was furious.
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2012 01:17 AM (4ixH5)
Suspenders.
I think it will have to be done.
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2012 01:18 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2012 01:18 AM (4ixH5)
http://tinyurl.com/bvbf9b9
The flames would make it look like there's something red hot in my pants.
And there is.
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2012 01:22 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: zeera at July 17, 2012 01:24 AM (XtxRN)
That chick.
HOT!
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2012 01:38 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: zeera at July 17, 2012 01:47 AM (XtxRN)
Posted by: zeera at July 17, 2012 05:47 AM (XtxRN)
No, the other one. The one with the big tits.
Bernadette.
God, I'd love to sniff her panties.
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2012 01:50 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2012 01:55 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Ezra's Equal at July 17, 2012 02:03 AM (1DwTD)
Therefore, statism!!!
Posted by: Sophist Liberal at July 17, 2012 02:11 AM (d/5qf)
Posted by: teej at July 17, 2012 02:15 AM (RM1gx)
Yeah, I'm at work so I'm still here for the moment.
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2012 05:55 AM (4ixH5)
Saying Hi and Goodbye, week from hell. Home now so thats A blessing !
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 17, 2012 02:16 AM (OTK2G)
Posted by: teej at July 17, 2012 02:19 AM (RM1gx)
Posted by: Thorvald at July 17, 2012 02:31 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Thorvald at July 17, 2012 06:31 AM (1V6Pv)
now now Thorvald, you know the rules...
quibbling over a signature on some SEC forms from 12 years ago --> FELONY FELONY FELONY
enabling, admitting and actually participating in illegal behavior --> SHUT UP YOU RACIST, THAT'S IRRELEVANT
Posted by: chemjeff at July 17, 2012 02:33 AM (d/5qf)
Law of the Sea Treaty now dead, DeMint says
“No letter or whip count changes the fact that rock-ribbed Republican businesses and the military and every living Republican secretary of state say that this needs to happen, and that’s why it’s a matter of ‘when’ not ‘if’ for the Law of the Sea,” sponsoring Senator Kerry spokeswoman Jodi Seth said.
Washington Times, Mon. 16 July
Posted by: Captain, Road Prison 36 at July 17, 2012 02:39 AM (BAnPT)
No surprise, lies, lies, lies. But just as predictable, expect treachery from within. It isn't as if the Democrats own the American monopoly on authoritarianism, nor the monopoly on revisionist New-Speak, though they exercise beyond all reason the Alinsky tactics "in your face" that depends on what "is" is.
Where is the united Republican former Secretary of State "living" voice denouncing the LOST swiftboat Kerry UN promotion usurping authority? "I can't hear you!" -- Television's Gunnery Sergeant Vince Carter, USMC, 1964
Posted by: Captain, Road Prison 36 at July 17, 2012 03:19 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: not racist...more race-curious at July 17, 2012 03:21 AM (mV5Rx)
Damn, sorry for not responding, but I took off to do jerby things.
Ya know...muh jerb.
Yeah, I work in the hotel bid'ness. And I'm less than an hour's drive from South Padre Island. Lookin' to go to the beach, pick up some hot wimminz?
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2012 03:44 AM (4ixH5)
Brigitte Bardot: Three babes.
Marilyn: Looking like a vampire in suburbia.
Mickey Rourke: Once looked human. Amazing. (Check out his little bit role in "Body Heat," as he advises William Hurt how to commit a murder.)
How did DiCaprio and Maguire wind up posing together, or is it a Photoshop? Did they grow up together or something?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2012 06:20 AM (exvgC)
And Tim Roth and Clive Barker were separated at birth.
Posted by: mediumheadboy at July 17, 2012 09:06 AM (x2CNJ)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2012 09:34 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Iowa Jim at July 17, 2012 10:47 AM (N+9a4)
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