July 08, 2012
— Maetenloch End of the weekend for some, just another day for others, but all are welcome at the ONT party.
Who's Got Power and Who Doesn't?
Find out where the power is off with Blackout Tracker which shows both the duration and number of people affected.
Put together by Eaton, a company that makes products that help utilities manage different parts of the electric grid, this little web app shows you where the electric grid has recently failed, and why. The Blackout Tracker doesn't claim to include all blackouts, but it gives you an idea of the number of blackouts that happen, and the wide range of causes blackouts can have. For instance, in the picture above, you can see that Wichita, Kansas, had a blackout earlier this week that was related to a heatwave-hot weather meant more people turned on their air conditioners in the middle of the day, and, for whatever reason, there wasn't enough electrical supply available to meet that demand.
And one thing that most people don't realize is how delicate our electrical distribution system actually is...well until the lights go off.
First, the grid doesn't have any storage. (At least, none to speak of.) Second, the grid has to operate within a very narrow window of technical specifications. At any given moment, there must be almost exactly as much electricity being produced as there is being consumed. If that balance is thrown off, by even a fraction of a percent, you start heading toward blackouts. There are people working 24-hours-a-day, 7-days-a-week, making sure that balance is maintained on a minute-by-minute basis.
And contra recent hysteria we have more to fear from an angry sun taking down the grid than we do from hackers and terrorists.
California Decides to Steer into the Crazy
They're bankrupt and being forced to cut basic services so of course Gov. Brown and the legislature have decided to sink billions the state doesn't have into a high speed rail system that most Californians don't want.
California is going for broke, and the country's most dysfunctional and badly governed state, enmeshed in debt and unable to manage its yearly budget, has voted to borrow billions of dollars it can't afford to begin a train project that it may never be able to finish - and that it may not even need....Californians must now scrape together tens of billions of dollars more - and hope that the federal government, despite the huge fiscal problems descending on Washington, will pump tens of billions more into a rail line that most Americans will never ride.
Large majorities of Californians tell pollsters that they don't want this train; the cash strapped state meanwhile is slashing funding for schools, colleges, parks and other basic services.
Bill Maher Living the AoSHQ Lifestyle
Well he is open-minded and likes hookers of all colors and sexes:
In 2010, Bill Maher said he wished President Barack Obama was less like Brady and more like Death Row Records co-founder Suge Knight... In response, Brady said that just because Maher likes black prostitutes, doesn't mean he understands the black experience, adding that he wouldn't appear on Maher's show...
..."Now, Bill Maher would call the cops and he would have his lawyer - I'd get sued and lose my house and it's not worth it for me," he continued. "But the black man part of me would be so satisfied to slap the s*** out of him in front of Cocoa and Ebony and Fox, the three ladies of the night that he has hired . . . and Fancy, who also happened to be named Tyrique at one point."
"I Found A Grenade In The Woods"
So a guy find a grenade in the forest and the thoughtful netizens at 4chan offer suggestions on what to do with it.
Seven Insane Ways To Get Drunk Without Drinking
Did you promise to never allow alcohol to pass through your lips? No problemo - there are plenty of other orifices and membranes available:
Not so long ago, there was a European invention called Alcohol Without Liquid, or AWOL (that should be your first red flag). You pour in a shot of your liquor of choice, the machine turns it into a vapor, and you inhale it. Insufflated alcohol goes into your bloodstream much faster than drinking. Also, the amount of food you have eaten doesn't affect its potency because, again, it bypasses your digestive system. It advertised a calorie-free drinking experience and promised no hangovers.
Apparently pro-ana and pro-thin websites do not approve of Kate Upton for promoting eating for pleasure and 'fat-pride':
[Kate Upton] has become the target of pro-anorexia website SkinnyGossip following her participation in a burger commercial. Despite shooting sexy images for Carl's Jr. a few months back, the website has suddenly decided to slam the blonde star now by calling her a "cannibal."
..."Guess who?! Yes, it's the lovely Kate Upton, confidently lumbering up a runway like there's a buffet at the end of it," they said, before adding: "She looks thick, vulgar, almost pornographic - and she is a solid 30lb too heavy for this outfit."
The Horror: Fashion Models Without Makeup
Just remember that some guy some place is waking up to this.
Weekly AoSHQ Commenter Standings
Top 10 commenters:
1 [356 comments] 'toby928?' [49.97 posts/day]
2 [319 comments] 'Vic'
3 [293 comments] 'kbdabear'
4 [285 comments] 'Bob'
5 [229 comments] 'Soona'
6 [207 comments] 'wheatie'
7 [199 comments] 'teej'
8 [181 comments] 'steevy'
9 [174 comments] 'Nevergiveup'
10 [169 comments] 'Cicero'
Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [95 names] 'kbdabear' [13.33 unique names/day]
2 [50 names] 'Cicero'
3 [46 names] 'toby928?'
4 [44 names] 'Ed Anger Issues'
5 [39 names] 'Islamic Rage Boy'
6 [38 names] 'Scobface'
7 [35 names] 'Mallamutt, RINO President for Life'
8 [31 names] 'toby928?'
9 [29 names] 'Doctor Fish'
10 [29 names] 'JDP'
The group. Yeah.
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Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 05:17 PM (HWUv9)
. Posted by: Kratos at July 08, 2012 05:19 PM (c1WVm)
Posted by: Max Cleland at July 08, 2012 05:21 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: sTevo at July 08, 2012 05:21 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Itsa me, Mario at July 08, 2012 05:24 PM (zThit)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 05:26 PM (HWUv9)
Now, what's for breakfast?
Posted by: Fritz at July 08, 2012 05:28 PM (02fNe)
Posted by: Max Cleland at July 08, 2012 09:21 PM (bAGA/)
My husband was an aide to Max Cleland back in his libtard (husband's) days. The stories he could tell about hookers, etc.
Posted by: Obamacare bitches! at July 08, 2012 05:29 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: ChrisValentine at July 08, 2012 05:30 PM (ht3c8)
Posted by: rabidfox at July 08, 2012 05:30 PM (1kH1V)
Posted by: Zombie Boris Yeltsin at July 08, 2012 05:31 PM (Rhie+)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 05:32 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 05:32 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: Some Gungan Target at July 08, 2012 05:33 PM (c98sL)
That and the sharp elbows
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 08, 2012 05:35 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 08, 2012 05:35 PM (qmMAj)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at July 08, 2012 05:35 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 05:36 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: Scobface at July 08, 2012 05:37 PM (IoNBC)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 05:37 PM (HWUv9)
I would happily make them sandwiches.
Jessica Alba, on the other hand, should make me a sandwich. It's the least she can do for her Obama support.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 08, 2012 05:38 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 08, 2012 05:39 PM (A2LXE)
Posted by: Kratos at July 08, 2012 05:40 PM (c1WVm)
Posted by: Arbalest at July 08, 2012 05:41 PM (x/kYM)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 05:42 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 08, 2012 05:43 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 05:44 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 08, 2012 05:46 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 05:46 PM (HWUv9)
But first, they will spend billions and billions of dollars.
Posted by: huerfano at July 08, 2012 05:46 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 08, 2012 09:46 PM (QTHTd)
Better.
Posted by: buzzion at July 08, 2012 05:47 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 05:48 PM (HWUv9)
4chan - Where Stupidity and Malevolence Go Hand in Hand.
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 08, 2012 05:49 PM (J6TaJ)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 08, 2012 05:49 PM (qmMAj)
Posted by: garrett at July 08, 2012 09:40 PM (JKtCP)
What a gentleman. He will be missed.
(My ex Mother in Law looked like a more butch version of Ernie B)
Posted by: Ombudsman at July 08, 2012 05:49 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Nighthawk at July 08, 2012 05:51 PM (hVZaP)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at July 08, 2012 05:51 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 05:52 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: huerfano at July 08, 2012 09:46 PM (bAGA/)
But first, they will spend billions and billions of dollars.
I think they will try. But there is an election coming up, in 4 months ... and most of the clowns really want to keep their jobs.
I foresee most California Ds looking back at November 2010 ... wistfully ... the good old days. I think many are starting to realize that Gov. Moonbeam tied them to the tracks ... and those that spend money on HSR will be railroaded in November 2012.
Posted by: Arbalest at July 08, 2012 05:52 PM (x/kYM)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 05:52 PM (HWUv9)
Maher probably wishes she had "tranny-surprise"; but, no, she's a she. If she were a he I'd think "she'd" be taller. Also there's the shape of the lower jaw, the thinness of the arms, and the narrow waist. And no adam's-apple (although that's in shadow).
The hands are large, but that doesn't mean much. I have small hands and I'm male.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 08, 2012 05:53 PM (QTHTd)
My fondest hope is that Maher has either or will contract some horrible venereal disease and die a slow and lingering death. Perhaps he already is suffering form syphilitic dementia.
Or maybe just die in a fire. Either one works for me.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at July 08, 2012 05:53 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at July 08, 2012 05:54 PM (ZhEoC)
The atheism, I can get, but not the whoremongering. That shows that he doesn't believe in anything good. And yes, that's sad.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 08, 2012 05:55 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Nighthawk at July 08, 2012 05:56 PM (hVZaP)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 08, 2012 05:56 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: Voluble at July 08, 2012 05:56 PM (Ub+ky)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 09:52 PM (HWUv9)
Yeah but there has to be something in there making them. My frew disk space keeps shrinking. I just worried that the malware tool won't find it before it fills up the disk and makes the computer not work .
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 05:56 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Grover's Improved No. 5 at July 08, 2012 05:57 PM (B2VwH)
Posted by: Nighthawk at July 08, 2012 05:58 PM (hVZaP)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 05:58 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: t-bird at July 08, 2012 05:58 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at July 08, 2012 05:59 PM (M0NzJ)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 06:00 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 08, 2012 06:00 PM (QTHTd)
Maher believe in anything good?
Maher believes in himself and only himself. A self-centered egotistical little homonculus of a human being. There is nothing profound to be learned from him. If Maher represents any kind of culmination of the human spirit, it is a cramped, dark and malevolent spirit.
He will someday disappear from human society and virtually no one will really care. His fans are largely the same kind of semi-human trolls. They have the appearance of a human being, but lack any warmth, generosity of spirit, charity or ability to have a mature relationship with other people.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at July 08, 2012 06:01 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at July 08, 2012 06:02 PM (8hBZi)
Posted by: honey Badger #5 at July 08, 2012 06:03 PM (RQjPS)
Posted by: Nighthawk at July 08, 2012 06:03 PM (hVZaP)
Posted by: The prophet Isaiah at July 08, 2012 06:04 PM (6kWFm)
Remember, I can still watch you fap.
(well, the 'ettes, anyway)
Posted by: Ghost of Ernest Borgnine at July 08, 2012 06:04 PM (c98sL)
Oy!
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 10:00 PM (HWUv9)
Dunno, it seems like it. Microsoft hasn't found any yet but it isn't finished. Something is screwed up because those tempory files don't delete when you choose the delete tempory files option .
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 06:05 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: steevy at July 08, 2012 06:05 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 08, 2012 06:06 PM (ccXZP)
Posted by: The prophet Isaiah at July 08, 2012 06:06 PM (6kWFm)
Posted by: steevy at July 08, 2012 06:06 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: Grover's Improved No. 5 at July 08, 2012 09:57 PM (B2VwH)
--------------->>>
If the arming spring isn't rusted solid, a hard impact might give that dipshit the big boom he was apparently seeking. At least he's somewhere in Europe (look at the dating and textual style) so I don't have to worry about him being my nextdoor neighbor. If he gets himself killed, I'd just regard it as clearing some deadwood out of the gene pool.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at July 08, 2012 06:07 PM (M0NzJ)
Posted by: steevy at July 08, 2012 06:08 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: steevy at July 08, 2012 06:10 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: Waterhouse at July 08, 2012 06:10 PM (cjWBk)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 08, 2012 06:11 PM (qmMAj)
Posted by: steevy at July 08, 2012 10:10 PM (Xb3hu)
----------->>>>>
That cretin doesn't have a clue on the fact that he's endangering his life and everyone within about 30 meters. The stupidity of pulling the pin and putting the grenade in a microwave oven boggles my mind.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at July 08, 2012 06:15 PM (M0NzJ)
Posted by: Waterhouse at July 08, 2012 06:15 PM (cjWBk)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 08, 2012 10:11 PM (qmMAj)
There's an interesting mental picture....R'lyeh in luau mode.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 06:17 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: steevy at July 08, 2012 06:18 PM (Xb3hu)
Posted by: eman at July 08, 2012 06:20 PM (ejmiE)
I think that most of those models look better without makeup, honestly, but then I have never liked the "plastic she-wolf" look that seems to be de rigeur these days.
Posted by: Grey Fox at July 08, 2012 06:20 PM (J6TaJ)
Posted by: Ol' Macdonald at July 08, 2012 06:22 PM (0It32)
Posted by: Kratos at July 08, 2012 06:23 PM (c1WVm)
I'm sure Obama and Mursi will have plenty in common. - Soap MacTavish
Well, they both hate Israel and the Jews, that's one thing right there.
Well, Obama means well. And he's trying real hard. I wonder how many Mursi will have killed in Egypt once he can wield real power? Because that's the way this usually proceeds.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at July 08, 2012 06:24 PM (sJTmU)
Speaking of grenades, that was also on an episode of 1,000 Ways to Die. As the story was told, an Italian man crossed the Mafia, was captured, and then taken somewhere out in the Italian countryside to die his own grave. Before the grave-digging was completed though, he inadvertently dug out a pineapple grenade, which then exploded near the two mafiosos overseeing the digger's execution.
Dunno how true the story is, but it certainly made for captivating TV.
Posted by: Kratos at July 08, 2012 10:23 PM (c1WVm)
That show does include the story of how Jack Daniels died. So who knows.
Posted by: buzzion at July 08, 2012 06:25 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 08, 2012 06:25 PM (jucos)
1.8 million is a LOT of files. get Teracopy, copy entire folder onto some backup via Teracopy. Delete the directory. See what breaks.
There is a check box in disk cleanup for temp internet files. CClean sp? can also get them.
Posted by: DaveA at July 08, 2012 06:26 PM (864A5)
They are still pulling live rounds out of suburban Maryland and NW DC left over from WWI when it was a simpler, more rural area.
The rounds from France and Belgium are mostly from WWI. The volume of shells fired in a relatively concentrated area along the trenches are staggering.
In a single morning the British suffered 50,000 casualties at the Somme, and the carnage went on for years.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 08, 2012 06:27 PM (cCe1t)
Posted by: Some gal making meth in a Wal-Mart restroom... at July 08, 2012 06:29 PM (rjeWV)
See also: France, Haiti, Russia, Iran
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 08, 2012 06:31 PM (QTHTd)
Afterward, not before, one assumes.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 08, 2012 06:32 PM (QTHTd)
*******
That's easy for you to say!!!
Posted by: Jim Sonweed at July 08, 2012 06:32 PM (pJbuO)
).....is this remotely plausible? It's sort-of the flip side of "they all look alike to me" -- I don't know enough families so everyone seems unique.Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 06:32 PM (kaalw)
When Edward and Mary Weidenbener went to vote in Indiana's primary in May, they didn't realize that state law required them to bring government photo IDs such as a driver's license or passport.
The husband and wife, both approaching 90 years old, had to use a temporary ballot that would be verified later, even though they knew the people working the polling site that day. Unaware that Indiana law obligated them to follow up with the county election board, the Weidenbeners ultimately had their votes rejected — news to them until informed recently by an Associated Press reporter.
I'm not linking their horseshit story but suffice to say it will be news tomorrow. Much wailing and gnashing of gums is a comin' folks.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 08, 2012 06:35 PM (ccXZP)
Mine was only a 2 day work week. I had Thursday and Friday off as well, I spent the time getting the house ready. We had a big get together for the fourth and then guests for the weekend. It's been a busy week
Posted by: Hummingbird at July 08, 2012 06:35 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: MrCaniac at July 08, 2012 06:36 PM (1grxW)
There is a check box in disk cleanup for temp internet files. CClean sp? can also get them.
Posted by: DaveA at July 08, 2012 10:26 PM (864A5)
It's over 2 Million now in one folder Users/rob/local/AppData/microsoft/windows. I have a malware tool scanning now so I don't want to run anything else.
There isn't anything important to running the computer in a user file is there?
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 06:38 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Barack "Small Arms Treaty" Obama at July 08, 2012 06:41 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 08, 2012 06:42 PM (bMLFV)
Posted by: moki at July 08, 2012 06:43 PM (dZmFh)
The rumor is that Barack's "real father" was Frank Marshall Davis, who was also a seminal influence on young Barack in Hawaii.
Frank was a bit a of self - proclaimed Marxist - Communist, and talked the party line; which is what he probably fed the young Barry. Frank was also big into pornography at the time.
If you look at Frank Marshall Davis, Barack Obama Sr., and Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama - frankly Barack looks like Barack Obama Sr., his polygamous Kenya daddy. A DNA study with Barack and his half - brother George would be.......fascinating!
The guy has had a really weird life, which frankly is not all his fault (his mother and grandparents were pretty weird, which doesn't even get into his father's family), but he also has no place being President of the United States. He's not that smart, not qualified, and frankly hates a lot of what is typical and normal for this country - and his antipathy for American life comes out every time he tries to make some kind of speech. What kind of family would let someone like Frank Davis around their kid?
In 50 years people will start writing books about this and they will look back and wonder how this ever happened.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at July 08, 2012 06:44 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: gibby at July 08, 2012 06:45 PM (08VkM)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 08, 2012 06:45 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Y-not at July 08, 2012 06:46 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: eman at July 08, 2012 06:46 PM (ejmiE)
We've had voter ID laws for years in Ohio, and it doesn't seem to be killing kittens and puppies yet.
But give it some time, that could happen, ya know.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at July 08, 2012 06:47 PM (sJTmU)
By chance just last Friday my IT guy was over upgrading my RAM to 4Gb and he did some standard maintenance for me and he downloaded CCleaner. So it's probably a good choice.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 08, 2012 06:48 PM (nrW1y)
Posted by: Thorvald at July 08, 2012 06:48 PM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Y-not at July 08, 2012 06:49 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Mark formerly in Spokane,now in Sandy Ut at July 08, 2012 06:49 PM (xGX1p)
Posted by: t-bird at July 08, 2012 06:49 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Dianna at July 08, 2012 06:49 PM (mKMj1)
Second, how did they get to the voting place? Did they DRIVE? If one of them dove the car, then either they had a license and were too stupid to show it to the poll officials, or they drove illegally.
Third, to get an ID in Indiana is no big deal. Unlike some states, our BMV is a streamlined, businesslike operation with a maximum 20-minute wait as long as you have birth certificate or some other acceptable ID to get a photo-id.
Fourth, if you cannot afford an ID the state will let you have one for free.
How do we know these people weren't democrats? All we have is their comment that they voted for Romney. How do we know they are telling the truth?
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 08, 2012 06:52 PM (GoIUi)
If my math is right it's created 200,000 files just while we're ONT'ing.
That does not make sense. What tool is it. Does it have any logging, etc.
Your getting into u-needa Windows pro territory.
Posted by: DaveA at July 08, 2012 06:52 PM (864A5)
>>But I knew I needed a fricking ID to vote TWENTY years ago. So how could these people not know they needed ID now???? Are they really that stupid, or are they plants, just trying to cause trouble?<<
Requiring ID to vote could be a rough and ready, very low standard IQ test. If you're too effing stupid to show up without a driver's license, no vote for you.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 08, 2012 06:53 PM (6At+W)
Posted by: moki at July 08, 2012 06:53 PM (dZmFh)
Posted by: John Roberts at July 08, 2012 06:54 PM (c98sL)
Try rebooting into safe mode and run the malware scanner from there. You may also want to look into an offline scanning tool that runs from a bootable CD. A lot of malware is impossible to deal with if Windows is running 'normally' because the malware is running at the lowest level and treating Windows as a virtual session. Thus the malware is invisible to scanners because it lives outside the box Windows is limited to.
Posted by: epobirs at July 08, 2012 06:55 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: NewBrunswicker at July 08, 2012 06:55 PM (XBxRP)
I don't know wtf 4chan is
Get off the internets, noob.
Seriously, though, it's a good idea never to go to 4chan.
at least not /b/
What ever happened to ol' dirty /b/tard?
Posted by: imp at July 08, 2012 06:55 PM (xTsb0)
I am going through files now deleting old stuff I don't use. It would almost be easier to by a new fucking comp, bastard virus assholes.
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 06:55 PM (MtwBb)
Okay. I have had to present my photo id in order to vote since I was a stupid, college, Democrat, which lasted all of one year because my poli sci profs had me working on Dem campaigns. (I got better)
But I knew I needed a fricking ID to vote TWENTY years ago. So how could these people not know they needed ID now???? Are they really that stupid, or are they plants, just trying to cause trouble?
Posted by: moki at July 08, 2012 10:43 PM (dZmFh)
Trying to cause problems. The media wasn't at all interested when I contacted them years ago to report that my dead father had voted in that election. This makes for a great story, a elderly couple having their votes thrown out because they didn't bring any ID to the polls, even though there are signs all around saying that you need an ID to vote, and the locality sends out voter registration cards for free every so often.
Posted by: MrCaniac at July 08, 2012 06:57 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at July 08, 2012 10:44 PM (sJTmU)
There's a lot of theories.....but the central point is whether Luo are relatively homogenous enough that BHO, Sr. can be plausibly ruled out.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 06:58 PM (kaalw)
I don't doubt that some people didn't get their vote counted, but in each and every case it is their own fault. States run saturation public notices about new voter ID requirements. They allow affidavits, and they tell you right then what you need to do to get it to count.
Can't follow directions? Go hang a chad somewhere else.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 08, 2012 06:59 PM (ccXZP)
Frank Marshall Davis, who was also a seminal influence on young Barack in Hawaii.
In more ways than one!
Thank you, I'll be here all week. Try the veal.
(Apparently, Frank Davis was a child molesting pervert, and none too picky about which way the genitals grew)
Posted by: imp at July 08, 2012 07:00 PM (xTsb0)
Posted by: Guy with weird thought that make only him go hmm at July 08, 2012 07:02 PM (Qr9Rc)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 07:02 PM (HWUv9)
57My fondest hope is that Maher has either or will contract some horrible venereal disease and die a slow and lingering death. Perhaps he already is suffering form syphilitic dementia.
I can actually remember watching Politically Correct on Comedy Central in the mid-nineties. Maher often came across as being right of center back then. He even described Hollywood as being mostly nutty liberals.
So syphillis could be an explanation for the horror of a human being he is now.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 08, 2012 07:02 PM (0ZQpP)
Posted by: Joe Scarborough at July 08, 2012 07:03 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: Eddie Murphy at July 08, 2012 07:03 PM (lyStv)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 08, 2012 07:03 PM (r4wIV)
. To tell the truth, I've never played the tabletop game. My familiarity with the Warhammer 40K Universe first came from the RTS game Dawn of War. The lore from the game interested me so much that I started reading up on the various factions and origins of the 40K world. Very, very interesting.
Not to mention the voice acting in most of the Dawn of War games (aside from "Soulstorm", ugh) is suburb. Especially the voice actor who voices Gabriel Angelos/Eliphas (Dark Crusade) and Sindri/Nemeroth.Posted by: Kratos at July 08, 2012 07:04 PM (c1WVm)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 10:32 PM (kaalw
Dude, I've been saying this for a while. And yes all Luo do look alike.
Posted by: baldilocks at July 08, 2012 07:07 PM (6kWFm)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 07:07 PM (HWUv9)
Hey, are you trying to make me so mad I can't sleep?! It's working!
Posted by: Dianna at July 08, 2012 07:08 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: Y-not at July 08, 2012 07:09 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 08, 2012 07:10 PM (CP+yl)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 07:11 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: Thorvald at July 08, 2012 07:11 PM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 08, 2012 07:11 PM (0ZQpP)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 07:11 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: moki at July 08, 2012 07:11 PM (dZmFh)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at July 08, 2012 07:11 PM (CP+yl)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 08, 2012 07:13 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: eman at July 08, 2012 07:14 PM (ejmiE)
Yes, jackass, we know. I'm black. I'm even half LUO and half black American.
I actually have nieces and nephews who are half white. They do look something like their mother (my sister), however.
Now fuck off.
Posted by: baldilocks at July 08, 2012 07:14 PM (6kWFm)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 07:14 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 07:16 PM (HWUv9)
A little mood music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYM7cxxm2i0
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 08, 2012 11:13 PM (XYqoq)
LOL....I was thinking about Alice Cooper when I posted that.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 08, 2012 07:16 PM (0ZQpP)
Posted by: Y-not at July 08, 2012 07:16 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 07:17 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: Y-not at July 08, 2012 10:46 PM (5H6zj)
Over 2 million without power for a week with temps near 100 wasn't much fun for all of us in it especially since there was no where to go to get any relief.
Posted by: MrCaniac at July 08, 2012 07:17 PM (1grxW)
Ugh.
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 11:14 PM (HWUv9)
Nobody is making make a fool of yourself but you.
Posted by: baldilocks at July 08, 2012 07:17 PM (6kWFm)
I'll bet the AP doesn't have a hard hitting investigative report in the works for disenfranchised military voters. Nope, I predict crickets on that particular long running issue.
In fact, I predict they will do a gonzo report on cricket eating squirrels first.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 08, 2012 07:17 PM (ccXZP)
Mostly, not thinking about it in the evening works; also writing irritated letters to my congresscritters and following every story about the disenfranchisement of the military until it disappears (why do they disappear?!) with close attention does something to make me feel like I'm doing something. But it is outrageous, and it infuriates me.
So I'm going to go read some silly David Weber fantasy "War Maid's Choice" and calm down so I can sleep.
Posted by: Dianna at July 08, 2012 07:18 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 08, 2012 07:19 PM (sTQDb)
Nothing short of genetic testing is really going to prove anything. If it were proven that Uncle Frank was really his father, then what? Is it going to change any votes? We know the man had a great deal of influence on Obama as a child. A genetic relation wouldn't change that one way or the other, so those who didn't care about Davis before would have no reason to change.
It would at least mean an end to the tiresome birther tirades.
Posted by: epobirs at July 08, 2012 07:20 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Y-not at July 08, 2012 07:20 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 11:16 PM (HWUv9)
I can peddle whatever theory I feel like peddling. Who are you to say it's bullshit? You hiding Obama's DNA in your pocket?
Posted by: baldilocks at July 08, 2012 07:20 PM (6kWFm)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 07:21 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 07:22 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 08, 2012 07:22 PM (sTQDb)
Posted by: Y-not at July 08, 2012 07:23 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 07:24 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 11:21 PM (HWUv9)
You don't like what I'm saying, that's your problem. It won't stop me.
Posted by: baldilocks at July 08, 2012 07:24 PM (6kWFm)
Posted by: Barack Obama's Secret Gay Boyfriend at July 08, 2012 07:25 PM (XYqoq)
"Mr. President, that last Executive Order didn't even get the Mount Vernon Mausoleum Dynamo cranking out enough juice for 10,000 Georgetown cocktail parties, but if we fete another Islamist in the White House, the MVMD is likely to spin out of control!"
"Try hard. It's the best you can do. And think of some other stuff, y'oh?"
Posted by: 66chevelle at July 08, 2012 07:26 PM (QjSgY)
Hiding Obama's DNA in your pocket?
That sounds.....gross. 
Let's all cool off for a second. Everybody here is pretty much on the same team.
The problem or intrigue of our President's ancestry, while quite interesting in its own right, is less of a problem than what to do about this guy and getting him unelected in November.
A certain portion of the electorate will be impervious to any real truth about who this guy really is, but some people can still be persuaded to vote against him if we don't all come across as being obsessed about making a point that is almost impossible to prove under the present circumstances.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at July 08, 2012 07:27 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: DaveA at July 08, 2012 07:27 PM (864A5)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at July 08, 2012 07:27 PM (nZvGM)
Posted by: MrCaniac at July 08, 2012 11:17 PM (1grxW)
I'll bet Mammouth Cave has done brisk business this heatwave.
Posted by: Hanoverfist at July 08, 2012 07:27 PM (HiKk0)
Posted by: Ernest Borgnine at July 08, 2012 07:28 PM (jucos)
All of them, apparently.
Dammit. I got a new computer on Friday, and the right trackpad button already sticks.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at July 08, 2012 07:28 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: eman at July 08, 2012 07:28 PM (ejmiE)
I could ask you the same thing. You get your expertise from where again?
And no, being of a similar ancestry doesn't give you any kind of authority. Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 11:24 PM (HWUv
I don't claim any *expertise* just theories. But I'm willing to bet that I know far more Luo than you do.
Look, you're the one that presumed that we didn't know that Obama was half white. Afterward, you pronounced our theories "garbage" and "bullshit." That means you have some knowledge that we don't, right?
So spill it.
Posted by: baldilocks at July 08, 2012 07:29 PM (6kWFm)
Posted by: Kal Penn at July 08, 2012 07:31 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 07:31 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: The Late Rodney King at July 08, 2012 07:33 PM (sTQDb)
Posted by: Reggie Love at July 08, 2012 07:34 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 11:31 PM (HWUv9)
Right, I'm a lunatic crank for noticing that everything about Obama is hidden or has been proven to be a lie. And leading what charge?
Thanks for your concern.
Posted by: baldilocks at July 08, 2012 07:34 PM (6kWFm)
And you call Baldilocks a "lunatic crank" based on what?
You got cites, data, or what?
Go ahead, spit it out.
Posted by: ChrisP at July 08, 2012 07:35 PM (626PS)
My lower back looks like a Jackson Pollock painting if you turn on a black light.
Posted by: Kal Penn at July 08, 2012 07:36 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 07:36 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 08, 2012 07:37 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 08, 2012 07:37 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 07:38 PM (HWUv9)
Posted by: baldilocks at July 08, 2012 11:29 PM (6kWFm)
Lady, it's your theory to prove.
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 11:36 PM (HWUv9)
You're the one who *began* slinging insults and epithets, not me and not c. That means that you have some info we are not privy to or we are hurting your feelings. Which is it?
Posted by: baldilocks at July 08, 2012 07:40 PM (6kWFm)
Hugs and kisses.
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 11:38 PM (HWUv9)
FOAD
Posted by: baldilocks at July 08, 2012 07:41 PM (6kWFm)
Posted by: ChrisP at July 08, 2012 07:43 PM (626PS)
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 08, 2012 07:44 PM (8sCoq)
Here is a "shovel" ready project in the making. This is the sort of project I thought our fearless leader would engage in. But nooooo. Maybe Mittens will bring it up.
Posted by: Iblis at July 08, 2012 07:45 PM (YXrPH)
Posted by: baldilocks at July 08, 2012 07:47 PM (6kWFm)
Man, the stories I could tell you...
Posted by: Zombie Donald Young at July 08, 2012 07:47 PM (lyStv)
I came in on the tail end of it, so I know not the cause of the recent unpleasantness.
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 08, 2012 07:48 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 08, 2012 07:48 PM (JKNDp)
Did my brief bout of temper scare everyone?
No, just the number of posts ... blog bandwidth and all ...
Posted by: Arbalest at July 08, 2012 07:48 PM (x/kYM)
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 08, 2012 07:50 PM (8sCoq)
Luo tribe of Kenya. The tribe of Obama's acknowledged father and of my bio father.
Posted by: baldilocks at July 08, 2012 07:50 PM (6kWFm)
Posted by: Arbalest at July 08, 2012 07:51 PM (x/kYM)
Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at July 08, 2012 07:51 PM (Fh+xS)
Posted by: honey Badger #5 at July 08, 2012 07:51 PM (RQjPS)
Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at July 08, 2012 07:52 PM (Fh+xS)
Posted by: honey Badger #5 at July 08, 2012 07:53 PM (RQjPS)
One thing that continues to make me livid about voting is the military vote. They have made a vow to protect this country and have. To not "let" them vote is infuriating to me.
Any of you know someone or something trying to fight that?
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at July 08, 2012 07:54 PM (W3UHW)
Posted by: baldilocks at July 08, 2012 07:54 PM (6kWFm)
Posted by: Robert at July 08, 2012 11:31 PM (HWUv9)
We need ***EVERYONE*** leading the charge against Obama. And, Robert, I've known Baldi longer than I've known you, even though we've haunted the ONT more....and she's straight up -- which is why I'd ask such a potentially embarrassing question. She doesn't deserve abuse for giving me a straight answer.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 07:54 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 08, 2012 07:55 PM (Rhie+)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 08, 2012 07:55 PM (jucos)
Posted by: baldilocks at July 08, 2012 11:47 PM (6kWFm)
Nah, it really doesn't matter how Obama became a dick though. We will never find out his own history, we know he lied 37 times about it in dreams of my father. The author of that new book about him filled in some of the blanks but there are many still open that we will never really know.
I am not sure it matters, Obama is a dick and a failure. At this point I don''t care what shaped him.
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 07:56 PM (MtwBb)
You keep on setting them up and we'll continue to knock them down.
I lurve this bar - Moar Vodka!
Posted by: Dianne Sawyer at July 08, 2012 07:57 PM (w5hzg)
Just think what those solar and wind dollars that Bammy pissed (and is still pissing) away to his cronies could have done to harden the existing electrical grid. Can you say underground cabling?
Posted by: Hrothgar Now with CJSC Approved Serf Status at July 08, 2012 07:58 PM (i3+c5)
Posted by: honey Badger #5 at July 08, 2012 07:58 PM (RQjPS)
Well there goes the clean shorts for that patrol.
Posted by: DaveA at July 08, 2012 08:00 PM (864A5)
Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 08, 2012 08:00 PM (Sm0Yh)
Speaking of socks, Kal Penn, if you're reading this: you left your socks in my bed. I'll have an intern drop them off at your place. XOXO
Posted by: Barack Obama at July 08, 2012 08:02 PM (lyStv)
For the record, I assume that everyone realizes that trying to embarras Teh JEF via, well, anything other than his job history and job performance, is a losing strategy. A big losing strategy.
It makes him look like a Victim, a condition that will play well with a lot of people voters.
Stick to his job failure(s) ... make them stick to him. Make everyone see this.
Posted by: Arbalest at July 08, 2012 08:02 PM (x/kYM)
Thanks. I never thought he was born in Kenya. I've said why many times before. My mom, who had a baby that same year (1961), says there is no way they could have gotten from one side of the world to the other in the allotted time using the era's travel tech. So what else could he be hiding? (Yes, the new BC is a forgery.)
Some people thought it was the religion, but BCs are standard; there's no field for religion. What else is left? Parentage and birthdate.
Posted by: baldilocks at July 08, 2012 08:02 PM (6kWFm)
Posted by: honey Badger #5 at July 08, 2012 08:03 PM (RQjPS)
There is so much weird shit surrounding the life of Barack Obama, that it would be incredibly fascinating to really dig into it.
He is a monumentally weird and puzzling person. I think that even he knows less than he thinks about some of the formative things in his life. I think he has been manipulated and used by others to become someone else's political pawn, and the game has gotten wildly out of control. But that's just my little dark suspicion.
But having said that, bringing up the actual weirdness of Obama to the general public generally gets you tagged as something of a nutty "birther" and you are immediately marginalized (outside of the circle of your own friends and trusted compatriots, such as at AoSHQ). And that doesn't mean that anybody is nuts because they have strong suspicions about who this guy really is, because I have some strong but unprovable suspicions about what is really going on. It just means you get marginalized instantaneously by the Blah! blah! Blah Make Believe Media.
To beat this guy in November, we have to campaign on what he has objectively done wrong as President, and persuade people to vote against him on what a bad set of decisions he has made, and frankly what a poor and unqualified executive he is. Part of the population is just not going to listen to anything negative about Obama, part of the population is already convinced that we need to get rid of him. It's the part that is open to being persuaded that has to be reached.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at July 08, 2012 08:05 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: eman at July 08, 2012 08:05 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at July 08, 2012 08:05 PM (H6gu4)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 08, 2012 08:06 PM (jucos)
Posted by: baldilocks at July 08, 2012 08:07 PM (6kWFm)
Posted by: The Dude at July 08, 2012 08:07 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: honey Badger #5 at July 08, 2012 08:07 PM (RQjPS)
Genetically, the people of Africa are the most diverse on earth -- they've had the longest to develop, after all. But each group may (or may not) be one of the most homogenous populations....depending on the circumstances of their history. If they were in some transportation nexus (e.g. Israel -- though that's not in Africa), they could be related to half the continent. On the other hand, if they were in a stable area that had periodic ecological crises, they could be nearly 100% interrelated to someone genetically suited to survive such crises. Add in some random European border-setting, and there's no easy way to know about a particular group besides asking someone.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 08:09 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: eman at July 08, 2012 08:09 PM (ejmiE)
agreed- the time to campaign against Obama the unprepared mutant was 4 years ago.
But now the silly prick has a record. And it is one of 100% failure.
Campaign on THAT.
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 08, 2012 08:09 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at July 08, 2012 08:11 PM (H6gu4)
Posted by: NewBrunswicker at July 08, 2012 08:11 PM (XBxRP)
Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at July 09, 2012 12:05 AM (H6gu4)
We do, we have a lot of them, in fact we have so many it's already pretty crowded underground. Then to add new ones you have to destroy everything that is built on top of where you want to put it or you have to bore tunnels. Both of which are very expensive.
Burying cable is extremely expensive. Expensive enough to double your electric bill in order to pay for, if that would even do it.
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 08:12 PM (MtwBb)
They're all skeered. I can do anyone's job better than them. It's because I'm known for trying really, really hard.
Posted by: Barry egO-bama at July 08, 2012 08:13 PM (c98sL)
Posted by: robtr at July 09, 2012 12:12 AM (MtwBb)
Repairing underground cable is an expensive proposition as well
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 08, 2012 08:13 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Liz 'Slinging Bull' Warren at July 08, 2012 08:14 PM (ccXZP)
well it would be nice to not have to worry if I will have power.or not with every windstorm, plus there's the whole tree branch issue
Flooding, frost heaving and permafrost issues, tectonic activity...underground isn't necessarily better...
**hiccup**.
Posted by: Dianne Sawyer at July 08, 2012 08:14 PM (w5hzg)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 08, 2012 08:14 PM (XYqoq)
Posted by: Corky Thatcher at July 08, 2012 08:14 PM (jucos)
Posted by: honey Badger #5 at July 08, 2012 08:15 PM (RQjPS)
Here is a "shovel" ready project in the making. This is the sort of project I thought our fearless leader would engage in. But nooooo. Maybe Mittens will bring it up.
Posted by: Iblis at July 08, 2012 11:45 PM (YXrPH)
After last week's little fiasco in this neck of the woods, the local paper asked the COO of APCO about that, and he said that the last study done by PEPCO said that to bury the lines in DC would cost 2 billion dollars. Just for DC. It would also add about $110 per month to your electric bill.
Posted by: MrCaniac at July 08, 2012 08:17 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: 66chevelle at July 08, 2012 08:18 PM (QjSgY)
sounds like the sort of the thing The Stimulus was allegedly for
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 08, 2012 08:20 PM (8sCoq)
well it would be nice to not have to worry if I will have power.or not with every windstorm, plus there's the whole tree branch issue
You now have an excuse to get a generator ... remember, he who dies with the most toys, wins.
Posted by: Arbalest at July 08, 2012 08:20 PM (x/kYM)
Posted by: Corky Thatcher at July 08, 2012 08:21 PM (jucos)
enough to double your electric bill in order to pay for, if that would
even do it.
Posted by: robtr at July 09, 2012 12:12 AM (MtwBb)
I know how to lay cable, IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: 70's Porn Star at July 08, 2012 08:21 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: Andrea Mitchell at July 08, 2012 08:21 PM (ejmiE)
New construction is a different story and if your country has been largely demolished it makes sense to do it right when rebuilding.
Posted by: epobirs at July 08, 2012 08:24 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 08, 2012 08:24 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at July 08, 2012 08:25 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at July 08, 2012 09:53 PM
Do you smell like cabbage?
Posted by: gebrauchshund at July 08, 2012 08:25 PM (iYwUw)
Posted by: Kratos at July 08, 2012 08:26 PM (c1WVm)
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 09, 2012 12:20 AM (8sCoq)
Washington DC, 68 square miles
Commonwealth of Virginia, 42,775 square miles.
United States, 3,794,101 square miles
It would take every penny that the US government has ever spent to bury all the lines.
Posted by: MrCaniac at July 08, 2012 08:26 PM (1grxW)
yeah I should get a generator, but the problem is, if I get a generator, I want to do it right, which means permanently installing it and hooking it up to the natural gas line (I imagine), which means it's staying with the house when I do decide to sell the house, which means I have to get my money out of it in terms of increased resale value... is that the case?
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 08:27 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 08, 2012 08:27 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 08:28 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 08:29 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 09, 2012 12:24 AM (JKNDp)
Well that's good you didn't have problems. You can't do that here though. You need a seperate conduit for each utility. Power cables usually cause interference with communication cables and besides the utility companies demand their own pipe. You have to have at lease 1' seperation between each utility as well.
The last time I bored underneath a highway for just enough utilities for 250 apartments it cost me $65,000 for 100'
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 08:32 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Barry egO-bama at July 08, 2012 08:33 PM (c98sL)
Posted by: eman at July 08, 2012 08:33 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 12:29 AM (+M9FE)
You'd think...if we can run 5000-man floating cities, aka aircraft carriers, off a small nuclear powerplant for 20 years at a stretch, it's certainly possible for land-based power generation.
Smaller is also possible - you could set up a small scale reactor with nowhere near critical mass present, unlike naval reactors, and harness enough heat from natural decay to provide power to a small number of homes or business.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at July 08, 2012 08:34 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 12:29 AM (+M9FE)
That is what happened here. It wasn't the local lines that went down, it was the lines feeding the substations and the substations themselves. The EPA forced ApCO to close a few coal power plants around here in the last 2 years, so now we have to rely on power being generated from areas further away.
Posted by: MrCaniac at July 08, 2012 08:34 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at July 08, 2012 08:36 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 08, 2012 08:36 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 12:27 AM (+M9FE)
I just helped my son in law install his. It wasn't a big deal. We built a doghouse next to his house to put the generator in and made it big enough to put 4-5 gal gas cans in then hooked it into his electric panel with a seperate panel they make for that sort of thing.
All in it cost about $600 including the generator and a days work.
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 08:37 PM (MtwBb)
Ohio Dan
What you did individually for your house is pretty straightforward, but you provided a lot of the labor to dig the trench,etc.
Where I live (a new neighborhood), all the house lines are buried, and there are ground level step-down transformers that were built and sit on pads and also cable and phone pedestals (a transformer sits in the corner of my yard). The power company still claims a right of way along the back of my property line, because there are a bunch of cables buried there. It was all done up front, but it was a little more costly than above ground poles. To do that as a retrofit would be really expensive - digging trenches and the new hardward while keeping the old hardware operational until it was supplemented.
And burying multi kilovolt transmission lines is REALLY expensive. The usually have to have concrete caissons poured to lay those kinds of lines in the ground.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at July 08, 2012 08:37 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: Corky Thatcher at July 09, 2012 12:21 AM (jucos)
Not to worry. The Senate has been accommodating bloated, fatasses for...oh at least half a century, right off the top of my head...oops, sorry John. I know that's a sore spot with you. Dammit. I'll shut up now.
Posted by: Artificial Reef Ted Kennedy at July 08, 2012 08:38 PM (QjSgY)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 08, 2012 08:38 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 08:39 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 08:39 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 09, 2012 12:36 AM (JKNDp)
It's more for aesthetics than anything else. It is cheap to do it before roads and other things are built. Plus, the builders are already laying pipe for water and sewer, so another trench for power, cable, and telephone is rather cheap and easy.
Posted by: MrCaniac at July 08, 2012 08:39 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 08:40 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 08:40 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: eman at July 08, 2012 08:41 PM (ejmiE)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 08:41 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 12:39 AM (+M9FE)
Yes it was a gasoline one. I never thought of a natural gas one but that would be sweet. I don't how much more the generator would cost but running a gas line to it from your house wouldn't be much over $100 extra.
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 08:42 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 08, 2012 08:43 PM (qmMAj)
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 08:44 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 12:39 AM (+M9FE)
I think it depends on the type of disasters you're likely to face (which, thus, makes it a nightmare with the Feds involved). If you're likely to need a generator because of an earthquake, the earthquake is more likely to break your gas line than take your electric wires down. If you'll be hit by a hurricane, the contrary. If you have a flood, neither one would likely work for different reasons (if all your burners and plugs are submerged....), etc.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 08:44 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 08, 2012 08:45 PM (qmMAj)
I think it depends on the type of disasters you're likely to face
Well for me it would probably be (in order)
1. tornadoes
2. floods
3. race riots
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 08:46 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 12:39 AM (+M9FE)
If you have the scratch for the natural gas/propane one, do it. Those can be installed so that they turn on automatically, and you don't have to worry about running out of fuel or refueling it. That is one thing that happened here was that enough gas stations didn't have power, so the stations that did have power, ran out of gas about 16 hours after the power went out. The problem with the natural gas/lp generators is that they cost a hell of a lot more than a 5-6k gasoline generator.
One thing you may look into is a whole home battery pack. These things charge up while you have power, then when your power goes off, it turns on. The charge should last about 2 days.
Posted by: MrCaniac at July 08, 2012 08:47 PM (1grxW)
http://tinyurl.com/73hetcf
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 12:45 AM (+M9FE)
An espresso machine? I don't think that will do what you want.
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 08:48 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 08:48 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: eman at July 08, 2012 08:48 PM (ejmiE)
There were a half-dozen companies in the early 90s all vying to be the big player in flywheels but none of them seems to be around anymore.
Posted by: epobirs at July 08, 2012 08:49 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: eman at July 08, 2012 08:50 PM (ejmiE)
I think it depends on the type of disasters you're likely to face
Well for me it would probably be (in order)
1. tornadoes
2. floods
3. race riots
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 12:46 AM (+M9FE)
See @348. Having a mobile generator in a secret barn on a hill would be ideal.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 08:51 PM (kaalw)
eman more like pizza and beer
The problem with the natural gas/lp generators is that they cost a hell of a lot more than a 5-6k gasoline generator.
Yes, and they are more or less permanent, so I have to have some sort of payoff at the end that it will increase the resale value of the house
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 08:52 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 08, 2012 08:55 PM (sTQDb)
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at July 08, 2012 08:56 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: eman at July 08, 2012 08:56 PM (ejmiE)
No I was serious chemjeff , your link was to tablets, cameras, espresso machines and refers.
When I converted the pickup to propane the engine parts were cheap. The only expensive thing was the tank.
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 08:57 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: eman at July 09, 2012 12:56 AM (ejmiE)
heh, yup, if you can stay on that bike for 5 hours you can charge your cellphone.
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 08:58 PM (MtwBb)
It would be very flashy but improbable. Most of the designs being proposed had to be magnetically suspended in vacuum to get the desired performance. Anything going wrong with those elements would be more likely to produce an elliptical spray of tiny flywheel shrapnel.
The articles in place like PopSci used to discuss the need for a pretty hefty little bunker for the flywheel to live it, to have the bit contained if it broke up.
Posted by: epobirs at July 08, 2012 08:58 PM (kcfmt)
hmm that is stupid Bing for you, it was supposed to go to this 8 kW generator that run off of natural gas that was plumbed directly into the gas line, oh well, but it cost like $2500
355 chemjeff, you just got the house and now you're worried about resale?
I'm always worried about resale, I worry about everything
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 08:59 PM (+M9FE)
You're probably talking about Beacon Power, which filed for bankruptcy in late 2011. Of course they had a DOE loan too...of which supposedly 70% will get paid back after their assets are sold off. Here's a CNet article on them from Feb. 2012:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/7aqpt3t
Can anyone point to a successful green energy firm not backed with gubmint bucks or subsidies?
Go ahead, amaze me.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 08, 2012 09:00 PM (ccXZP)
It isn't that bad. I have a crank generator flashlight with a USB port for charging stuff and I've charged up a Blackberry in less than an hour of continuous cranking at low single digit RPM. Just to see what it would be like in an emergency.
I expect an exercycle and some vigorous effort would produce a lot more juice. Not enough to get off the grid but a good emergency means of charging up a battery array. Beats sitting in the dark.
Posted by: epobirs at July 08, 2012 09:02 PM (kcfmt)
hmm that is stupid Bing for you, it was supposed to go to this 8 kW generator that run off of natural gas that was plumbed directly into the gas line, oh well, but it cost like $2500
Oh fuck you don't need 8KW. 3 to 5 is plenty. We put a seperate panel in his garage that let's him turn off and on different circuits. Like if you want to watch tv at night you can kill the refer and then turn it back on before you go to bed. 8KW would run everything in a 2,500 sq. ft. all electric house. You don't need that.
An 8 KW gasoline generator is about the same price.
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 09:02 PM (MtwBb)
How about me? I consume lots of green things
Posted by: The US Government at July 08, 2012 09:03 PM (+M9FE)
"There were a half-dozen companies in the early 90s all vying to be the big player in flywheels but none of them seems to be around anymore."
Most of them are still around. It's just that Spinning Rims turned out to be a more lucrative use of the technology. Although, amazingly enough, GM just got a 1.5M taxpayer investment to equip the Volt with "FlyFlyWheels". It could be a game-changer.
Posted by: 66chevelle at July 08, 2012 09:03 PM (QjSgY)
chemjeff:
If you connect the generator to your natural gas supply the same way a NG stove is connected, and then connect it on your side of your KwH meter with a large plug to a utility-approved disconnect box (so the utility can disconnect you for work on their side, and so you don;t power the rest of the area), then your investment is mostly portable.
The (eco-leftist) magazine "Home Power" periodically discuses this sort of thing. They have a lead article on an off-grid solar house each issue. Politics do not show much, but they are Left ...
Posted by: Arbalest at July 08, 2012 09:03 PM (x/kYM)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 09:05 PM (kaalw)
Home Power, I will write that down
now gotta find a way to pipe the generator emissions outside and I'm golden
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 09:06 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: eman at July 08, 2012 09:08 PM (ejmiE)
Always know where the carnivals are. They always have a good supply of generator trucks. Though it can be hard to tell the living carnies from the undead ones. A lot of the smarter zombies live underground as carnies.
OTOH, you can generally either variety with impunity.
(Flanders was a zombie?)
Posted by: epobirs at July 08, 2012 09:08 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 09:10 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: eman at July 08, 2012 09:11 PM (ejmiE)
heh that is awesome but it does look a little... fragile
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 09:11 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at July 08, 2012 09:13 PM (W3UHW)
now gotta find a way to pipe the generator emissions outside and I'm golden
Do your design with the generator outside. Put it in a "jail cell" ... plenty of steel bars, concrete, and very good ventilation (12"+ clearance all around, add som more for sound suppression panels). This is likely to be a better choice, and meet code with less cost and work.
Posted by: Arbalest at July 08, 2012 09:13 PM (x/kYM)
no wait, 5,000 watts would be 5 kw. I was right the first time. right?
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 09:14 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at July 09, 2012 01:13 AM (W3UHW)
huh? WTF? there are more vets posting here than at most blogs, so I think people here are quite concerned about the military vote
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 09:17 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 01:12 AM (+M9FE)
Put it in a doghouse next to your house. We built SIL's with a shed roof that lifts off so you can start the generator and maintain it. We put two hasps on the roof to put padlocks on. You can also take it with you when you move but I imagine your new owners would want to pay you what you had in it to leave it.
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 09:19 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 09:20 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 01:20 AM (+M9FE)
You want to put it next to your electric panel which I assume is in your garage. Then you just drill a hole through the wall and run a cable from your generator to the garage. They make a cable that plugs into both for about $20 for a 8' cable.
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 09:23 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 01:21 AM (+M9FE)
Yeah that and I am not an electrician. I ususall don't fuck with anything stronger than a flashlight unless it's for family.
Posted by: robtr at July 08, 2012 09:25 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: B5D - 19K, call me Gordon Freeman at July 08, 2012 09:25 PM (7FBVF)
Posted by: B5D - 19K, call me Gordon Freeman at July 09, 2012 01:25 AM (7FBVF)
that is awesome, looking at it on a map, I bet it's a beautiful place
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 09:27 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 08, 2012 09:34 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 08, 2012 09:34 PM (qmMAj)
Posted by: The Dude at July 08, 2012 09:34 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 01:11 AM (+M9FE)
It's not fragile, it's field repairable. And anything that burns can fuel it -- wood, coal, charcoal, hay, extra zombies, gas, plastic gas cans, government publications.....it won't meet EPA standards, though.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 09:38 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Alfred Hitchcock's Proper British Accent at July 08, 2012 09:45 PM (qmMAj)
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 09:45 PM (4ixH5)
http://tinyurl.com/7gnyp2n
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 01:45 AM (4ixH5)
I'm too lazy to read the article -- is that when used as an enema?
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 09:47 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: The Dude at July 08, 2012 09:47 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 09, 2012 01:47 AM (kaalw)
Ya know, I dunno. I just read the headline. Something about cutting colon cancer risk.
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 09:47 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: The Dude at July 09, 2012 01:47 AM (tw6Ar)
Jem?
I'm drawing a blank, but my mind is trying to fill it in with "and The Holograms".
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 09:48 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 01:48 AM (+M9FE)
Jefe!
How's Texas?
Hot enough for ya?
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 09:49 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 09:49 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 09:49 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 01:49 AM (+M9FE)
because, you know, it's Jem. But it's a cool shirt and it's different that maybe I can get lucky and no one will get that it is in fact a Jem shirt
http://tinyurl.com/7svlgqw
Posted by: The Dude at July 08, 2012 09:50 PM (tw6Ar)
I must say, though, I do enjoy you Texans' lax attitude towards beer
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 09:50 PM (+M9FE)
they're full of water and other fluids, not very combustible
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 01:46 AM (+M9FE)
When they're extra, they don't devour their quota of brains and get dried out.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 09:50 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 09:50 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 09:51 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 09:51 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 01:51 AM (+M9FE)
80's cartoon version of Josie and the Pussycats essentially
Posted by: The Dude at July 08, 2012 09:53 PM (tw6Ar)
You're buying a six pack of Shiner first thing in the morning.
http://tinyurl.com/7svlgqw
Posted by: The Dude at July 09, 2012 01:50 AM (tw6Ar)
Huh, well would ya look at that.
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 09:54 PM (4ixH5)
http://tinyurl.com/893bdab
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 01:51 AM (4ixH5)
Oh, I snarf tea by the mugfull every morning. I'd use this one -- http://tinyurl.com/7kg2o9j -- but it's kind of small.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 09:57 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 08, 2012 09:57 PM (XYqoq)
if you're considering a Jem T-shirt, consider this one as well
http://tinyurl.com/78kcqj5
>
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 09:57 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 08, 2012 09:58 PM (XYqoq)
no, but I do enjoy seeing the iced down cans of beer in every convenience store, designed for immediate consumption, as well as the availability of beer pretty much everywhere
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 09:59 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 09, 2012 01:58 AM (XYqoq)
good 2 hours of toons on Saturday morning, rerun of Scooby Doo, Jem and then He-Man and She-Ra
Posted by: The Dude at July 08, 2012 10:01 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 01:51 AM (+M9FE)
Jem and The Holograms was a really really lame 80s girls cartoon about a shitty pop singer, her obviously gay manager slash love interest and a villainous female punk group called The Misfits.
The Misfits.
Glenn Danzig call your office?
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 10:01 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 01:59 AM (+M9FE)
*Flies into an incoherent rage*
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 10:03 PM (4ixH5)
dude, I don't buy Shiner first thing in the morning, I buy Miller Lite
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 10:04 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: The Dude at July 08, 2012 10:04 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 02:04 AM (+M9FE)
you could just save money buy drinking your morning piss
Posted by: The Dude at July 08, 2012 10:05 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 09, 2012 01:57 AM (kaalw)
I want this one...
http://tinyurl.com/p299sb
But apparently the State of California wants me to know that "THE MATERIALS USED AS COLORED DECORATIONS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THIS PRODUCT (CAFFEINE MUG) CONTAIN LEAD AND/OR CADMIUM, CHEMICALS KNOWN TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA TO CAUSE BIRTH DEFECTS OR OTHER REPRODUCTIVE HARM."
I just want coffee, not bring doom down upon m'boys.
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 10:09 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 08, 2012 10:09 PM (XYqoq)
anyway, good night all
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 10:12 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 02:04 AM (+M9FE)
You're gonna make me cry, man.
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 10:13 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 02:09 AM (4ixH5)
that is a cool mug
the ink and stuff is on the outside of the mug, so unless you are in the habit of licking the outside of your mug, it shouldn't matter
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 08, 2012 10:14 PM (+M9FE)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 09, 2012 02:09 AM (XYqoq)
*Sigh*
Put me down for a preorder.
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 10:14 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: chemjeff in Texas at July 09, 2012 02:14 AM (+M9FE)
I don't like it dripping down the side.
>>_>>
<<_<<
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 10:15 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 08, 2012 10:17 PM (XYqoq)
I want this one...
http://tinyurl.com/p299sb
But apparently the State of California wants.....
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 02:09 AM (4ixH5)
OK, stop right there. Do you have any reason to believe the State of California isn't completely delusional about ANYTHING? Dude. They believe that spending billions that they don't have on a train that doesn't go anywhere whose eventual one-way ticket cost would exceed that of planes that could go to multiple destinations (e.g. Oakland to Burbank) and typically offer more flights per day than possible trains per day......they believe that the whole mess could eventually pay for itself?
My advice -- if the State of California says something is bad to drink, you might as well drink it http://tinyurl.com/79z68d4 .
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 10:22 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: The Dude at July 08, 2012 10:26 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 09, 2012 02:22 AM (kaalw)
Relax, relaaaaxxx!!! Breathe in, breathe out, breathe in, breathe out.....
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 10:28 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 09, 2012 02:22 AM (kaalw)
Relax, relaaaaxxx!!! Breathe in, breathe out, breathe in, breathe out.....
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 02:28 AM (4ixH5)
I'm relaxed enough.....I'm just ROTFL that you could take the gang of mentally infirm and deluded that nominally govern California seriously. Lord knows nobody else does.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 10:31 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Jerry at July 08, 2012 10:49 PM (4SKYj)
Seems that her son-in-law (or equivalently distant relation) actually owned a registered mining claim up along some Sierra stream, and they'd go up and pan for gold every once in a while, but were annoyed when they sometimes found that people had been mucking around in their stream. So, one day, the s-i-l was up there and this guy parks (in this remote area) and comes strolling along.
So the sil decides to do some preemptive strike action and says, "Howdy-do! Hope you're enjoying the birds and the fresh air! As for my lot -- please pardon me if I'm a bit cranky. I've got a registered claim to be mining this parcel, and it looks like someone's been poaching my claim. Under California law, if I catch 'im, I'm entitled to shoot 'im on the spot -- and I'm ready, willing, and eager to do so. But please enjoy the trees and butterflies."
Now, I have no idea whether such a law remains on the books.....California in the 1800's was a pretty straightforward place, and such a law would not have been unusual for the times..........and there could certainly be holdovers in seldom-visited corners of the law like mining claims. But it was absolutely a stroke of genius to inform the stranger of this "fact", 'cause he blanched, stumbled around for a while looking for invisible birds, then hiked back out to his truck and drove away.
But the upshot is -- nobody seriously relies on Sacramento to fix or maintain anything. Even the most graspy of the entitled doesn't have faith that Sacramento has eliminated "instant execution" penalties from mining law.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 10:51 PM (kaalw)
Discuss.
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 02:46 AM (4ixH5)
With the half-smile, direct gaze, and state of dress, she doesn't need the tits. She's showing enough to compensate for problems elsewhere......but there aren't any problems elsewhere.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 10:57 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 02:47 AM (4ixH5)
That moustache -- is that you, Robert?
Posted by: cthulhu at July 08, 2012 10:59 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 09, 2012 02:57 AM (kaalw)
she's not sucking my dick, that right there is a problem
Posted by: The Dude at July 08, 2012 11:00 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 11:02 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 09, 2012 02:59 AM (kaalw)
If that were me she'd have a full beard.
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 11:02 PM (4ixH5)
http://tinyurl.com/7t5d79r
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 11:04 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 08, 2012 11:08 PM (qmMAj)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 03:08 AM (qmMAj)
the cages actually work better
Posted by: The Dude at July 08, 2012 11:11 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 08, 2012 11:11 PM (qmMAj)
Posted by: Evan3457 at July 08, 2012 11:11 PM (e8QWD)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 08, 2012 11:13 PM (qmMAj)
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 11:14 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Rob shall think of nothing else for the rest of the night at July 08, 2012 11:16 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 08, 2012 11:21 PM (qmMAj)
These traps are the Ortho plastic container kind ...
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 03:13 AM (qmMAj)
depends on what you're catching mice or rats but everyone I know has been using
http://tinyurl.com/7uwlx6y
just remember to drive a few miles before release
Posted by: The Dude at July 08, 2012 11:23 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 11:24 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 08, 2012 11:30 PM (qmMAj)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 08, 2012 11:35 PM (qmMAj)
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 11:37 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 08, 2012 11:47 PM (qmMAj)
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 11:49 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Temptation at July 09, 2012 03:46 AM (4ixH5)
amount to $40 to giggle at hentei while trying to get a bad ending where chicks go psycho and go stabby stabby and slit my throat
Posted by: The Dude at July 08, 2012 11:50 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Rip Van Winkle at July 08, 2012 11:53 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 08, 2012 11:53 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: The Hentai Loving Devil On Your Shoulder at July 08, 2012 11:55 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 08, 2012 11:56 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Rip Van Winkle at July 09, 2012 03:53 AM (bxiXv)
Well she is kinda smirking a little.
Posted by: Rob at July 08, 2012 11:56 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 08, 2012 11:58 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 12:00 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 12:02 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 12:03 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 12:06 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 12:13 AM (qmMAj)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 12:14 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 12:19 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 12:22 AM (qmMAj)
Along with the cracked garbage disposal, the lack of insulation around the window, and the not ready laundry room, we have a mouse in the kitchen.
Can not find said mouse after he/she/it went under the gas stove.
Proud owner of newly acquired mouse traps ... sans peanut butter.
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 03:08 AM (qmMAj)
Having discussed this with people who trap vermin for a living, the trick is to interfere with the impulse to take something away to nosh on later. So you want something whose scent says "nosh" firmly wedded to the trap's trigger. A 1"x1" square of terrycloth is perfect, snagged on the trigger and smeared with the bait. Peanut butter works fine.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 09, 2012 12:26 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 04:13 AM (qmMAj)
Are you sure it was the mouse that got caught? Could have been something else, like some kind of land shark.
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 12:26 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 12:27 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 03:35 AM (qmMAj)
That's hot.
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 03:37 AM (4ixH5)
I like it, too -- even if it's sorta Jetsons.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 09, 2012 12:28 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 04:19 AM (bxiXv)
How does a rogue star shine, exactly? And what makes it a rogue? Does it break any laws? Laws of physics? Helmet laws? Can't go careening across the galaxy without a helmet.
Or a towel.
Posted by: Rob says don't panic at July 09, 2012 12:28 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 12:29 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 12:30 AM (qmMAj)
Posted by: Circle K at July 09, 2012 12:31 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 12:32 AM (qmMAj)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 12:32 AM (bxiXv)
It's just that I don't have any PB. So I mashed a piece of semi-soft cheese in the 'bait box'.
I remember reading that mice as a rule, don't like cheese; but that was all I had at the moment.
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 04:30 AM (qmMAj)
Again, from those who trap vermin for a living, the terrycloth is the key factor. Can't get the bait off the terrycloth; can't get the terrycloth off the trigger -- SNAP!
Posted by: cthulhu at July 09, 2012 12:33 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 12:34 AM (qmMAj)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 12:35 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 12:35 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 04:34 AM (qmMAj)
math isn't your strong suit, is it?
Posted by: The Dude at July 09, 2012 12:35 AM (tw6Ar)
I know that we put out traps when our garden was getting raided, and pulled a rat a day out of our backyard for two weeks straight.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 09, 2012 12:37 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 12:39 AM (qmMAj)
Also, they do tend to shoplift if you don't keep an eye on them. Best to have someone else do the shopping and just let them look pretty.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 04:32 AM (bxiXv)
What was it Tolkien said? Never toss a dwarf star?
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 12:39 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 09, 2012 04:33 AM (kaalw)
On that topic, is there a season for politicians or is it year-round? I think since they're vermin it's year-round, right?
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 04:35 AM (bxiXv)
Unfortunately, it's usually the vermin writing the rules.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 09, 2012 12:40 AM (kaalw)
Ah F! I hit the minus instead of the divide.
Sorry 'bout that.
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 04:39 AM (qmMAj)
I wasn't gonna say anything but if I sold 39,994 jars of peanut butter at $6 bucks a piece I'd probably get something more than just a ring.
Maybe two rings.
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 12:42 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 04:35 AM (bxiXv)
Such extremist language!
Hope everyone enjoyed their racist 4th of July!
Posted by: MSNBC at July 09, 2012 12:43 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 12:43 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 12:45 AM (qmMAj)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 12:48 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Mufasa at July 09, 2012 12:49 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 12:50 AM (qmMAj)
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 04:45 AM (qmMAj)
Take these chains off of my heart. Or at least move 'em so they're not crushing my balls.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI8GcdW5AeA
Posted by: Rob Halford at July 09, 2012 12:50 AM (4ixH5)
In this very late hour ...
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 04:50 AM (qmMAj)
WAKE UP! WAKE UP!
slapslapslap
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 12:51 AM (4ixH5)
I have this feeling that the California High Speed Rail project will be
cancelled ... in August, maybe September ...but certainly by this time
in 2013.
Posted by: Arbalest at July 08, 2012 09:41 PM
But first, they will spend line their pockets with billions and billions of our dollars.
fixed your post
Posted by: bill-o at July 09, 2012 12:51 AM (bjND7)
Posted by: bill-o at July 09, 2012 12:52 AM (bjND7)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 12:54 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 12:56 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 12:58 AM (bxiXv)
Dr. Atkins says you ain't no good for me.
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 12:59 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 04:58 AM (bxiXv)
Well, so what did you remember?
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 01:00 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 01:02 AM (bxiXv)
I have this feeling that the California High Speed Rail project will be
cancelled ... in August, maybe September ...but certainly by this time
in 2013.
Posted by: Arbalest at July 08, 2012 09:41 PM
But first, they will spend line their pockets with billions and billions of our dollars.
fixed your post
Posted by: bill-o at July 09, 2012 04:51 AM (bjND7)
Yeah, like they're going to cancel the stem-cell thing.....Real Soon Now......
Posted by: cthulhu at July 09, 2012 01:03 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: Carbs, Sugars, and Non Diet Sodas at July 09, 2012 01:03 AM (qmMAj)
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 01:04 AM (4ixH5)
One day we will be reunited.
Stay strong. Stay strong.
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 01:05 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Wait! I'm on to somethin' at July 09, 2012 01:06 AM (qmMAj)
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 01:12 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 01:17 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Wait! I'm on to somethin' at July 09, 2012 01:17 AM (qmMAj)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 01:19 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 01:21 AM (qmMAj)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 01:22 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 01:23 AM (qmMAj)
Posted by: The Dude at July 09, 2012 01:24 AM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 01:28 AM (qmMAj)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 01:29 AM (qmMAj)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 01:30 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: The Grays at July 09, 2012 01:30 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 09, 2012 05:30 AM (bxiXv)
Drizzle? Spring shower? Torrential downpour? Monsoon?
Snow?
But what most intrigues me, what kind of tree are you?
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 01:34 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: a cynical but rarely angry Adriane at July 09, 2012 01:36 AM (qmMAj)
Posted by: teej at July 09, 2012 02:29 AM (vzfrq)
Posted by: teej at July 09, 2012 02:31 AM (vzfrq)
Posted by: teej at July 09, 2012 02:42 AM (ZFXqT)
Posted by: teej channeling old drill sargent at July 09, 2012 02:49 AM (xhupI)
Posted by: teej at July 09, 2012 02:53 AM (xhupI)
Posted by: teej channeling old drill sargent at July 09, 2012 06:49 AM (xhupI)
Ssshhhhhhh!!!!!!!
People are trying to sleep.
Posted by: Rob at July 09, 2012 03:00 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 09, 2012 04:22 AM (kFnmp)
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