August 20, 2012

Overnight Open Thread (8-20-2012)
— Maetenloch

Dreams From My Father, Blocked Calls From My Brother

Obama at the National Prayer Breakfast in February:

"Living by the principle that we are our brother's keeper. Caring for the poor and those in need," Obama said before an audience of about 3,000 at the Washington Hilton. These values, he said, "They're the ones that have defined my own faith journey."

But apparently this principle only applies in the abstract. When it comes to actual brothers - not so much.

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Because Barack's real-life brother, George Obama, the youngest of Barack Obama Sr's eight children lives in a shanty in the Huruma slum in Nairobi, Kenya. And when George's son needed $1000 to pay for medical treatment for a chest condition, instead of turning to his President brother who's not really into the whole keeping thing, he was forced to ask for money from...Dinesh D'Souza?

Okay this sounded completely bizarre to me but apparently it's true:

A few days ago I received a call from a man I recently met named George.  He was a bit flustered, and soon informed me that his young son was sick with a chest condition.  He pleaded with me to send him $1,000 to cover the medical bills.  Since George was at the hospital I asked him to let me speak to a nurse, and she confirmed that George's son was indeed ill.  So I agreed to send George the money through Western Union.  He was profusely grateful.  But before I hung up I asked George, "Why are you coming to me?"  He said, "I have no one else to ask."  Then he said something that astounded me, "Dinesh, you are like a brother to me."

Actually, George has a real life brother who just happens to be the president of the United States.  (George Obama is the youngest of eight children sired by Barack Obama Sr.)  George's brother is a multimillionaire and the most powerful man in the world.  Moreover, George's brother has framed his re-election campaign around the "fair share" theme that we owe obligations to those who are less fortunate.

Now I'm cynical enough to strongly suspect some kind of scam going on here and George Obama would probably make Billy Carter look good in comparison but then George *does* live in a dirty shack in Kenya and the rest of the Obama clan is not living a whole lot better.

If I were a president worth millions, I think I could at least get my African extended family out of shanties, some basic medical care, a TV and possibly a basic cable package. Hell my family does that already with my deadbeat cousins and they're just pathetic losers.

Who's the Real Racist Party?

Well according to the narrative it's supposed to be the Republicans, but surveys of attitudes and behavior don't back this up and in fact point to the Democrats as the slightly stronger bastion of residual racism.

Favor Laws Against Interracial Marriage
Democrat Ind Repub Other TOTAL
YES 11.9 9.6 11.5 5 10.8
NO 88.1 90.4 88.5 95 89.2

 

Would Vote for Black President

STRONG DEMOCRAT NOT STR DEMOCRAT NOT STR REPUBLICAN STRONG REPUBLICAN
YES 92.4 94 93.9 94.7
No 7.6 6 6.1 5.3

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MA Imposes De Facto Doctor Price Controls

Eventually there will be no independent medical care - there will only be Zool ObamaCare.

Under the new law, all Massachusetts doctors, hospitals, and other providers must register with a new state bureaucracy as a condition of licensure. Yes, if you are any kind of health care provider in Massachusetts, you now belong to the state- that is, if you want to actually earn a living in your field. The new "state bureaucracy," not unlike the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB) in ObamaCare, will have a lot to say about what providers do each day as it tracks and reports their financial performance, price and cost patterns, state-sanctioned quality measures, market share, and other statistics.

...According to the new law, no registered provider is permitted to make "any material change to its operations or governance structure," without the commission's approval. In addition, the commission has the authority to rewrite the terms of provider contracts with insurers as well as payment levels and methods if they are "deemed to be excessive," to police providers who exceed benchmarks, and demand "performance improvement plans" of those providers found to be spending too much money on patient care.

Best Car Ad Ever?

Viva la revolution.

Predictions of 2012 According to SciFi Writers in 1987

Some got it pretty close:

ROGER ZELAZNY

It is good to see that a cashless, checkless society has just about come to pass, that automation has transformed offices and robotics manufacturing in mainly beneficial ways, including telecommuting, that defense spending has finally slowed for a few of the right reasons, that population growth has also slowed and that biotechnology has transformed medicine, agriculture and industry-all of this resulting in an older, slightly conservative, but longer-lived and healthier society possessed of more leisure and a wider range of educational and recreational options in which to enjoy it-and it is very good at last to see this much industry located off-planet, this many permanent space residents and increased exploration of the solar system. I would also like to take this opportunity to plug my new book, to be published in both computerized and printed versions in time for 2012 Christmas sales-but I've not yet decided on its proper title. Grandchildren of Amber sounds at this point a little clumsy, but may have to serve.

And others not so much - I'm looking at you Asimov and Orson Scott Card.

Maid Cosplay + .50 Rifle = Weird Kind of Awesome

Apparently from a Japanese girl's gun tour of Guam.

Also Bookworm has some thoughts on the difference between Japanese and Americans and Canadians:

Americans, traditionally, have appeared more like surly herded cats than enthusiastic lemmings.  For every stain on American history (slavery, the treatment of the Indians, the imprisonment of Japanese-Americans, Jim Crow), there have been countervailing forces, vigorously protesting these injustices.  Yes, the injustices happened, but they were never the product of a unanimous society mindlessly going along.  Instead, they were the result of societal tension and were destroyed by that same societal tension.

The Yahoo AoSHQ group. Bla bla bla.

And my twitter thang.

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1 What's the latest on Akin?

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 20, 2012 06:33 PM (zrpqj)

2 He sucks.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 20, 2012 06:33 PM (QQPIw)

3 Once a Klan member, always a Klan member, right Bob?

Posted by: Satan at August 20, 2012 06:36 PM (bAGA/)

4 That car ad is awesome.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 20, 2012 06:36 PM (rPA5/)

5 Kleagle Byrd---further proof of how well blacks are PLAYED by the rats.

Posted by: USS Diversity at August 20, 2012 06:37 PM (2d71t)

6 prob not here tonight for long... got some tasks to take care of

Posted by: Jake in ID at August 20, 2012 06:37 PM (LyEfv)

7 Sittin' on the Dock of the Bay.....

Seein' No Dough Roll My Way....

Posted by: George Oh C'mon Man! at August 20, 2012 06:37 PM (BVkEs)

8 i realize this is old but i swear D'Souza must've just been bored and looking for ways to be "controversial" with his thesis a few years back that American conservatives should align themselves with "traditional Muslims" against "radical Muslims" and restore traditional morality. what would we call that...idioconservatism? sorta makes it hard to take the guy seriously

Posted by: JParker at August 20, 2012 06:38 PM (8HhF2)

9 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2012 06:38 PM (6o4Fb)

10 evening Maet,

Yeah SCOAMF is not being a hypocrit if you think it through.  He fully intends to treat us all like his 1/2 bro as soon as he can.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 20, 2012 06:38 PM (LRFds)

11 MA Imposes De Factor Doctor Price Controls Is that Max Factor's daughter?

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at August 20, 2012 06:39 PM (OIuTH)

12 Let his name be stricken from every thread and comment, stricken from all sidebars and Top Top 10s, stricken from every website of America. Let the name of Akin be unheard and unspoken, erased from the memory of men for all time.

Posted by: toby928© Ravel Rouser at August 20, 2012 06:39 PM (QupBk)

13 Hopefully the low information voter hears Akin and thinks the MBM is talking about Clay Aiken

Posted by: kbdabear at August 20, 2012 06:40 PM (wwsoB)

14 Any morons want to see an amazing acoustic guitarist?  Here:

http://tinyurl.com/6hx3e43

I pretty much never post around here, but I had to share this.

Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at August 20, 2012 06:40 PM (v5lxX)

15 I don't want to sound judging, but all of Obama's Christian testimony sure sounds like the inside of a Hallmark card.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 20, 2012 06:41 PM (MrM2k)

16

Great ONT. Thanks.

 

Posted by: Stateless_Infidel at August 20, 2012 06:41 PM (8UijS)

17 I wanna discuss that rockin' car commercial. It made me smile, and it's been a tough day.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 20, 2012 06:41 PM (d6TfZ)

18 forget george Obama, has anyone seen May Soetoro lately? Seems like he really wants to keep non half black family members away.

Posted by: Avi at August 20, 2012 06:41 PM (51xVX)

19 Hopefully the low information voter hears Akin and thinks the MBM is talking about Clay Aiken

Posted by: kbdabear at August 20, 2012 10:40 PM


Who certainly knows nothing about female biology.

Posted by: huerfano at August 20, 2012 06:41 PM (bAGA/)

20 Nice, Maet!  Saw that a few days ago, fuckin' barky's shitweaselry extends to immediate family.  He's such an embarrassment.

Posted by: Peaches at August 20, 2012 06:41 PM (kpCLl)

21 3 Once a Klan member, always a Klan member, right Bob? Posted by: Satan at August 20, 2012 10:36 PM (bAGA/) Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in.

Posted by: Zombie Sen. Robert Byrd, D-WV, The Clanfather at August 20, 2012 06:41 PM (OIuTH)

22

A snap of the latex glove ... then the question: "Do you have bad credit"

 

I'd rather have Clint Eastwood ask me if I feel lucky ...

Posted by: Arbalest at August 20, 2012 06:42 PM (CcTJw)

23 Is Akin gone yet?

Posted by: Boots at August 20, 2012 06:42 PM (neKzn)

24 ROGER ZELAZNY If that's not the worst sentence ever constructed in the English language, I don't want to see what is.

Posted by: Scobface at August 20, 2012 06:42 PM (IoNBC)

25 Zelazny was Mr. Y-not's favorite author. L. Ron Hubbard was a scary mf'er.

Posted by: Y-not at August 20, 2012 06:43 PM (5H6zj)

Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 20, 2012 06:43 PM (xKC/c)

27 I bet that car salesman loves the USA more than the SCOAMF.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 20, 2012 06:44 PM (1grxW)

28 Japanese chick in a maid outfit shooting a huge rifle. Bunk.

Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 06:44 PM (Wp4rQ)

29 23 Is Akin gone yet? Posted by: Boots

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That's what I was asking.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 20, 2012 06:44 PM (zrpqj)

30 "I bet that car salesman loves the USA more than the SCOAMF.
Posted by: MrCaniac"

He certainly knows how to make an entertaining sales pitch, but I question his gynecological skills.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 20, 2012 06:44 PM (d6TfZ)

31 Evenin' reprobates!

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 20, 2012 06:45 PM (BAS5M)

32 14 Any morons want to see an amazing acoustic guitarist? Here:

http://tinyurl.com/6hx3e43

I pretty much never post around here, but I had to share this.
Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader

Spectacular.....but is that a Legitimate Acoustic guitar or just a acoustic acoustic guitar?

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 20, 2012 06:45 PM (ovpNn)

33 "Traditional muslims" like this fellow,Dinesh? Kot Chutta, Pakistan (CNN) -- From behind the steel bars of his jail cell, Muhammad Ismail described with uncanny ease how he shot and killed his wife, his mother-in-law, and sister-in-law. "The first shot hit the side of her body," Ismail said. "I left her there and went next door and killed my wife's mother and sister. I made sure they were all dead. Then I locked the door and left the house." Without any apparent regret, Ismail said he would do it again. "I am proud of what I did. That's why I turned myself over to the police." Ismail's confession to the triple-murder that took place last February in a village in central Pakistan is a rare and chilling first-hand account of a so-called 'honor' killing -- the murder of women who are usually accused of dishonoring their families by being unfaithful or disobedient. Ismail accused his wife of eight months of repeatedly flirting with other men and spending long hours away from home. "My wife never made me happy," said the 20-year-old who played drums in a traditional Pakistani wedding band before his arrest. "She was like a prostitute. She never took care of me."

Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2012 06:45 PM (6o4Fb)

34 29 23
Is Akin gone yet?

Posted by: Boots

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That's what I was asking.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 20, 2012 10:44 PM (zrpqj)


Every time you ask the Akin blog clock gets reset back to zero. At this rate Christmas won't get here for at least another 6 months.

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 20, 2012 06:46 PM (pAlYe)

35 So does this mean Kathleen Sebelius is my new boss?  Yuck!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 20, 2012 06:46 PM (hgSh3)

36 All this talk of Akin really makes me want bacon.  I mean.  More so than usual. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 20, 2012 06:46 PM (Gk3SS)

37 Japanese chick in a maid outfit shooting a huge rifle.


Bunk.


Jeez, am I the only who faps to the "Local on the 8s" on the Weather channel?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 20, 2012 06:46 PM (xKC/c)

38 Check this unhelpful headline from the LA Times :


Tea party rogue: Todd Akin defies GOP bosses by staying in race

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 20, 2012 06:46 PM (zrpqj)

39 I can't imagine circumstances where I would not help my brother or his children.

Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 06:46 PM (Wp4rQ)

40 One teensy tiny boo boo, and everyone gets their panties all wadded up.

Posted by: Captain Joe Hazelwood at August 20, 2012 06:47 PM (ccXZP)

41 Early one mornin' while makin' the rounds
I took a shot of cocaine and shot my woman down
I went right home and I went to bed
I stuck that lovin' forty-four beneath my head.

Posted by: Johnny Cash at August 20, 2012 06:47 PM (vjyZP)

42 Jeez, am I the only who faps to the "Local on the 8s" on the Weather channel? Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 20, 2012 10:46 PM (xKC/c) I don't have a TV, so what is "Local on the 8s" on the Weather channel?

Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 06:48 PM (Wp4rQ)

43 As Rush would say, the JEF isn't cool, he's cold. I do not think he has a true emotional attachment to anyone. Like he has an attachment disorder, sort of like those orphans that were adopted out of Romania who spent so much time with no family. All his relationships seem based on his ambitions, and not his heart.

Posted by: thunderb at August 20, 2012 06:48 PM (Dnbau)

44 Hey when I say we are our brothers keeper, I'm speaking in the broad, collective, the government should take care of everyone sense. You can't expect me to give money that I scammed... Err..... earned to some half brother negro living in a shanty can you?

Posted by: Choomin at August 20, 2012 06:49 PM (/YJYi)

45 One teensy tiny boo boo, and everyone gets their panties all wadded up.

Posted by: Captain Joe Hazelwood at August 20, 2012 10:47 PM (ccXZP)

Well, then deploy the panty unbuncher and kick his sorry ass to the curb.  Tonight.

Posted by: Peaches at August 20, 2012 06:49 PM (kpCLl)

46 I can't imagine circumstances where I would not help my brother or his children. I wouldn't buy my brother a 50" plasma, but I wouldn't let him live in a dirt floor hut either. The SCoaMf is a turd in the shape of man. A fecal golem.

Posted by: toby928© Ravel Rouser at August 20, 2012 06:50 PM (QupBk)

47 I do not think he has a true emotional attachment to anyone.

That the way narcissists are.  There's only people they can use and exploit.  If you got nothing they need, they don't want to know you.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 20, 2012 06:50 PM (K9aub)

48 360 degree panorama of GOP convention hall, very cool

http://360.io/natajW


Posted by: Jose at August 20, 2012 06:50 PM (srIqv)

49 Here's why I haven't piled onto Obama for not helping out his family -

Obama is not the vice-president of some management consultant firm based in Dubai. Such a person would indeed be making his own wage, and could choose to spend it on hot Filipina hookers or else helping out his family.

Obama is supported by... us. Taxpayers.

This is exactly what brings down so many African (and Caribbean, and Asian, and maybe even local American) governments. The ruling party gets in; all those poor relatives come along with their hands out; various people go hire their nephews to do bullshit "work".

So on this score I must praise Obama.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 06:50 PM (QTHTd)

50 That's one small Japanese soldier behind the maid.

Posted by: CDR M at August 20, 2012 06:50 PM (dKV5k)

51 I'd have to see a DNA fraternity test to believe that BHO and George are really brothers. And I'd bet you my Nigerian Lottery Prize that D'Souza got taken. All Dinesh said he had for proof that this was a real medical emergency was that George handed the phone to "a nurse," who supposedly confirmed. The story smells so bad, it's silly to try to make any hay out of it.

Posted by: gp at August 20, 2012 06:50 PM (mk9aG)

52 36 All this talk of Akin really makes me want bacon. I mean. More so than usual. Bacon is always awesome. That, and a nice set of bewbs.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 20, 2012 06:51 PM (GEICT)

53

You know, my Dad was a veteran of WWII.  What if he fathered some illegitamite Filipino child, who would be 60 some years old now?  What if I found out I had a half brother?

 

I don't know if I would be ecstatic, but it would be interesting.  I would want to know something about this man.

 

Obama is a cold, self-centered egotist.  To not even care a whit about his half brother.  This is who he is.  He is a scary man to be President of these United States.  Under a certain kind of pressure, or in a certain kind of situation, he might do anything.  I don't think he has a conscience, really, and wouldn't flinch at doing something totally sociopathic to preserve himself.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at August 20, 2012 06:51 PM (sJTmU)

54 That arrangement of video panels at the GOP convention reminds me of Attack of the Show's setup.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 20, 2012 06:52 PM (zrpqj)

55 Holy crap, that Japanese chick is a dead ringer for original Morning Musume member Kaori Iida. Not that probably that means anything to anyone here.

Oh, and Akin needs to GTFO.

Posted by: holygoat at August 20, 2012 06:53 PM (auGuV)

56 Well, at least he used a glove, most dealers skip that foreplay. Of course with this diversity of topics its virtually impossible to go O/T, since it isn't quite clear what the topic is.

Posted by: dodging bullets in Chicago at August 20, 2012 06:53 PM (WqcDi)

57 presnit and his bro ---


none of us should ever have to listen to that outsource shit again, and if we do, we should just point out that liberals like to outsource all their charity responsibilities to the gubmint.  if da gubmint doesn't choose to help you in liberal land, you are just pretty much screwed.

Posted by: jc at August 20, 2012 06:54 PM (ufJKx)

58 I am assuming it was a scam. I have read the brother is a drunk and has a drug problem. All that being true, I wouldn't let his children live in squalor. Thats the difference, progs expect the state to take care of family, conservatives expect to take care of their own families

Posted by: thunderb at August 20, 2012 06:54 PM (Dnbau)

59

That's tough love for a drug and alcohol addicted half brother.

 

Like every other thing that Obozo does, he only does it half way, and he screws that part up.  

Posted by: Comanche Voter at August 20, 2012 06:54 PM (oe1aw)

60 I love how the LA Times has no idea what the tea party is.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2012 06:54 PM (T0NGe)

61 I heard Ace was feeling blue.  I'm not   sure why.  Methinks  he is too worried about this Akin  business. 

Posted by: SH at August 20, 2012 06:54 PM (2XIvU)

62

Sorry, BTH, I just don't follow your thinking there.  Once he's been paid, whether  by the taxpayers or any other entity, the money is his, right?  To do with as he pleases?

 

Hell, for all we know, George once told him to have carnal knowledge of himself and they are "estranged".

Posted by: L Rob in OK at August 20, 2012 06:54 PM (7yvLv)

63 And I'd bet you my Nigerian Lottery Prize that D'Souza got taken

Hardly.  That's the cheapest mention in international press you can get.  He just bought himself another year of relevancy and a slew of talk show appearances...wanna bet he got a new book coming out soon?

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 20, 2012 06:55 PM (K9aub)

64 As Rush would say, the JEF isn't cool, he's cold. I do not think he has a true emotional attachment to anyone. Like he has an attachment disorder, sort of like those orphans that were adopted out of Romania who spent so much time with no family. All his relationships seem based on his ambitions, and not his heart.

I wish this were true. Unfortunately I think he does have emotions and they are negative, mainly against whites. (At least, the wrong sort of whites.) This was something D'Souza was right about.

A heartless bastard of a President who just wanted to be left well enough alone... that may have been Coolidge. I think I can live with another President Coolidge.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 06:55 PM (QTHTd)

65 Ace is lecturing us on Twitter for voting in Akin, even though no one is supporting Akin and no one knew he was like this

Posted by: Jose at August 20, 2012 06:55 PM (srIqv)

66 hi all
great ONT Maet, as usual

Posted by: chemjeff at August 20, 2012 06:56 PM (d/5qf)

67 Anyone planning to pull an all-nighter to watch for "Akin is Out" breaking news?

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 20, 2012 06:56 PM (zrpqj)

68 If Barack Hussein Obama Sr. wasn't the SCOAMF's real father then the SCOAMF wouldn't have any real commitment to George.

 

Posted by: aquaviva at August 20, 2012 06:56 PM (T3Dw+)

69 This is exactly what brings down so many African (and Caribbean, and Asian, and maybe even local American) governments. The ruling party gets in; all those poor relatives come along with their hands out; various people go hire their nephews to do bullshit "work". So on this score I must praise Obama. Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 10:50 PM (QTHTd) You must be joking. His money is his to do with as he likes. It does not matter if he works for the government. He also has other money. Helping a family member is in no way connected to foreign aid.

Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 06:56 PM (Wp4rQ)

70 Obama is supported by... us. Taxpayers.

This is exactly what brings down so many African (and Caribbean, and Asian, and maybe even local American) governments. The ruling party gets in; all those poor relatives come along with their hands out; various people go hire their nephews to do bullshit "work".

So on this score I must praise Obama.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 10:50 PM (QTHTd)


Yes but the money he earns is his own plus the assets he and Michelle has before he became president. He can afford to help his Kenyan family out of his own pocket.

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 20, 2012 06:56 PM (pAlYe)

71 That's one small Japanese soldier behind the maid. Posted by: CDR M at August 20, 2012 10:50 PM (dKV5k) And he's not budging from his post.

Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 06:57 PM (Wp4rQ)

72 #49

Obama earned millions from book sales before the election and since. He doesn't need to touch any of his Presidential salary to assured his family in Africa is well taken care of. As ne'er do well relatives go they'd be pretty cheap to keep fed, clothed, and housed.

Posted by: epobirs at August 20, 2012 06:58 PM (kcfmt)

73 Jeez, am I the only who faps to the "Local on the 8s" on the Weather channel?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 20, 2012 10:46 PM

I fap to the MILF every time she turns sideways. Nice rack

Posted by: kbdabear at August 20, 2012 06:58 PM (wwsoB)

74 The story smells so bad, it's silly to try to make any hay out of it. Posted by: gp at August 20, 2012 10:50 PM (mk9aG) So, the President's brother is a con man or the President is stiffing his broke but honest brother. Either way, I see hay.

Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 06:58 PM (Wp4rQ)

75 Obama is supported by... us. Taxpayers.

This is exactly what brings down so many African (and Caribbean, and Asian, and maybe even local American) governments. The ruling party gets in; all those poor relatives come along with their hands out; various people go hire their nephews to do bullshit "work".

So on this score I must praise Obama.


In that sense you are right. He can't give his brother some job. George Obama isn't qualified for anything except Homeland Security secretary, but he could actually give his brother cash from his Dreams from My Father stash.

Barack is a sociopath, though.  He doesn't genuinely care for anyone.  He "gives" via the IRS, like a good liberal.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2012 06:59 PM (T0NGe)

76

)Barack has known about George for a long time.  It's not as if he just fell out of the woodwork.  Apparently Barack was over in Kenya years ago and met a lot of  his father's "extended family".

 

I mean really, how much would it cost to help them just a little? A few thousand here or there, from his royalties on his stupid book (or Bill Ayer's book," Dreams of my Neighbor") "Dreams of my Father"  (the socialist fink that he was).

 

He's a creep. Nothing says creep more that being unwilling to help his brother. Maybe he did help him and George blew it all off, and is just an African junkie.  But still, it is creepy.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at August 20, 2012 06:59 PM (sJTmU)

77
He certainly knows how to make an entertaining sales pitch, but I question his gynecological skills.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 20, 2012 10:44 PM (d6TfZ)


Hard to say. My Spanish professor in college was an attorney from Cuba who fled from Castro. He was an attorney of some reputation there, but couldn't practice here. My college hired him, and the guy was so anti communist that it would have made Reagan blush. He was also paranoid as hell that Castro had a hit squad out for him, and he was always packing, even in class.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 20, 2012 07:00 PM (1grxW)

78 I am assuming it was a scam. I have read the brother is a drunk and has a drug problem.

If this is true, it shouldn't be too hard to get him to make some ads bashing his brother.  A $100,000 "donation" would  probably buy a couple of hours worth of scandalous accusation, lies, and invective about Ogabe.

Dopers and boozers tend to be loyal to whoever is willing to fund their addictions.

It would force Obama to paint his brother as a liar.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 20, 2012 07:01 PM (K9aub)

79 I mean really, how much would it cost to help them just a little? A few thousand here or there, from his royalties on his stupid book (or Bill Ayer's book," Dreams of my Neighbor") "Dreams of my Father" (the socialist fink that he was).

In all fairness, if they're anything like Barack, Sr., there will be no getting rid of them.  Give them $1000, they'll demand $10,000 the next day.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2012 07:01 PM (T0NGe)

80 The Most Busted Name in News;

Fareed Zakaria Resigns From Yale University's Governing Board

http://tinyurl.com/cq6d2pl

Posted by: kbdabear at August 20, 2012 07:02 PM (wwsoB)

81 I like to call Obama's book, "Issues from My Daddy".

Posted by: AmishDude at August 20, 2012 07:02 PM (T0NGe)

82 Even if Obama's extended family are all losers/semi-grifters, from a purely PR point of view he ought to spend the $30K/year just to keep these kind of stories out of the press.

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 20, 2012 07:03 PM (pAlYe)

83 I thought the interesting note on the George Obama story is that Immigration won't let him have a visa to visit his mother in Atlanta.

Posted by: toby928© Ravel Rouser at August 20, 2012 07:04 PM (QupBk)

84 he ought to spend the $30K/year just to keep these kind of stories out of the press.

Why?  They haven't hurt him yet.

Posted by: chemjeff at August 20, 2012 07:04 PM (d/5qf)

85 Yes but the money he earns is his own plus the assets he and Michelle has before he became president. He can afford to help his Kenyan family out of his own pocket.

If he works for the state, he is our servant. So the money he earns is not his own; it's ours. It's spending money. It's an allowance.

And the money he - and Michelle - "earned" was all earned out of politics. Michelle's job was what, Diversity-counselling in a hospital, wasn't it? Which function was cancelled after she left? As for Obama's book, from what I hear, fewer people actually read it than read "The Satanic Verses". People bought it after he got famous so they could display it. He didn't really earn that either.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 07:04 PM (QTHTd)

86 I would also like to take this opportunity to plug my new book, to be published in both computerized and printed versions in time for 2012 Christmas sales-but I've not yet decided on its proper title. Grandchildren of Amber sounds at this point a little clumsy, but may have to serve.

Posted by: Fareed Zakaria at August 20, 2012 07:04 PM (ek1JB)

87 #63

Even better, he has a movie out now: 2016

Posted by: epobirs at August 20, 2012 07:05 PM (kcfmt)

88
MA Imposes De Facto Doctor Price Controls

The Massachusetts Senate voted 38-0 and the House of Representatives, 132-20, to approve the sweeping health care bill.

Current Party Representation

Senate: 35-4
House: 127-33



Massachusetts Republicans, we know you're going to lose, but is it SUCH a big effort to at least not vote yes and give this the old bipartisan shine?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2012 07:06 PM (kdS6q)

89 If he works for the state, he is our servant. So the money he earns is not his own; it's ours. It's spending money. It's an allowance. Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 11:04 PM (QTHTd) Really? I was an employee of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and I earned my pay. That money was mine. Fuck that bullshit.

Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 07:06 PM (Wp4rQ)

90 It's interesting how George Obama is so well-dressed, despite living in a shantytown. That shows a sense of self-respect, despite his poverty.

Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2012 07:07 PM (sdi6R)

91 I'll admit, I was wrong about my previous argument regarding an alliance being possible between Christian conservatives and traditional Muslims. Really what we should've done is let the Soviet Union continue to occupy Afghanistan and modernize it Stalinist-style. A conservative-Communist alliance for the benefit of the Middle East, and the future. I will also be editing Pat Buchanan's new book, "No Really, Nazi Europe Would Have Been Manageable" AKA "I Have Way Too Much Time on My Hands and I Don't Care for Israel."

Posted by: Dinesh D'Souza at August 20, 2012 07:08 PM (8HhF2)

92 Anyway, think of the example this sets. If the chief of state starts throwing taxpayer or at least politically-generated money upon his kin, that sends a message down to the locals in Illinois that hey, it's okay if they do it too. But maybe they don't have a bestselling set of books. So . . .

Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 07:08 PM (QTHTd)

93 If he works for the state, he is our servant. So the money he earns is not his own; it's ours. It's spending money. It's an allowance.

And the money he - and Michelle - "earned" was all earned out of politics. Michelle's job was what, Diversity-counselling in a hospital, wasn't it? Which function was cancelled after she left? As for Obama's book, from what I hear, fewer people actually read it than read "The Satanic Verses". People bought it after he got famous so they could display it. He didn't really earn that either.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 11:04 PM (QTHTd)


Really? Anyone who works for the government doesn't really own their pay?!

Does this form of inverse-communism also apply to congressmen and members of the military?

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 20, 2012 07:09 PM (pAlYe)

94 MA Imposes De Facto Doctor Price Controls

The Massachusetts Senate voted 38-0 and the House of Representatives, 132-20, to approve the sweeping health care bill.

---

I wonder if the Fugitive Doctor Act to prevent any doctors in MA from bailing the fuck out of that socialist dystopia is far behind?

Posted by: Hagbard Celine at August 20, 2012 07:09 PM (+/VIS)

95 AIDS seems disproportionately important to a lot of those sci-fi writers.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 20, 2012 07:10 PM (gBJfr)

96 Shut up George, and eat your locust.

Posted by: Michelle Obama at August 20, 2012 07:10 PM (BVkEs)

97 I sure hope that George Obama fella isn't legitimately raping anyone.

Posted by: Todd Akin at August 20, 2012 07:11 PM (8HhF2)

98 The car ad is awesome. But then you tack on the Japanese chick in the French maid outfit shooting a Barrett...damn! Makes me feel a whole lot better about Mondays, I can tell you that.

Posted by: Splunge at August 20, 2012 07:11 PM (2IW5Q)

99 Holy crap, that Japanese chick is a dead ringer for original Morning Musume member Kaori Iida. Not that probably that means anything to anyone here. Oh, and Akin needs to GTFO. Posted by: holygoat at August 20, 2012 10:53 PM (auGuV) It does, it does... ◕ ‿‿ ◕

Posted by: ザ 政治的 帽子 at August 20, 2012 07:11 PM (sZTYJ)

100 I followed a few links on the George Obama story the other day and saw where Simon n Schuster apparently shredded 20k copies of George's book Homeland per his co-author. There was a hint of some embarrassment contained within.
 
I then further checked and the book is readily available on Amazon right now.
 
Still, this story does show the JEF in a bad light and I'm all for that.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 20, 2012 07:11 PM (ccXZP)

101 If Frank Marshall is Obama's father, then George isn't his brother, right? But we're not supposed to care about that sort of thing, just whether Romney killed some guy's wife by working at his company six years before he was laid off.

Posted by: norrin radd at August 20, 2012 07:12 PM (Vsk+0)

102 I was an employee of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and I earned my pay. That money was mine.

I disagree with you. No, seriously.

I think that public employees whilst they are serving should treat their money as an allowance.

After leaving public service - and I stress, government employment is service - then, yes, you keep your money.

Until then, all you "earned" was extorted from Massachusetts taxpayers. The citizens did not have the choice of going with a service other than what you provided, short of leaving your state.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 07:12 PM (QTHTd)

103 82 Even if Obama's extended family are all losers/semi-grifters, from a purely PR point of view he ought to spend the $30K/year just to keep these kind of stories out of the press.

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 20, 2012 11:03 PM (pAlYe)


About 15 years ago, there was a tv show with a NFL player on who had bought his parents a new home. He and his wife lived in a 2 br condo. He had to keep buying new shit for his parents, but couldn't afford to get things for his place. Basically, his entire salary was supporting his parents, and he couldn't even save anything for after football. Finally he had to tell them that he couldn't keep paying their living expenses anymore, they responded by suing him.


People like the Obamas are nothing more than grifters.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 20, 2012 07:13 PM (1grxW)

104 I've done some extensive research and NONE of the chicks on The Weather Channel are less than a 'C' Who new that "the wheather" would be so interesting..

Posted by: weather geek at August 20, 2012 07:13 PM (LyEfv)

105 67 Anyone planning to pull an all-nighter to watch for "Akin is Out" breaking news? Posted by: Serious Cat at August 20, 2012 10:56 PM (zrpqj) ---------------- I really do think that we need to presume that he's staying in and start thinking of ways to change this narrative. He's running against a dem scrunt. I know we can think of something.

Posted by: Soona at August 20, 2012 07:13 PM (PYs9T)

106 Aikin Legitimately raped the GOP.  I hope our magic conservative vaginas can prevent the Aikin Rape Sperm from impregnating us with Senate and Presidential Losses.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 20, 2012 07:13 PM (ovpNn)

107 The wierd thing is, people keep using "brother's keeper" like its a Biblical commandment. It isn't. Its a whining attempt to turn Abel's murder on to God. its one of those things a kid says:
Hey, where's your brother
What am I, his boss??
The Bible doesn't say we're supposed to be our brother's keeper. It says we're supposed to love our neighbor, even if we think he's our enemy.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 07:14 PM (r4wIV)

108

Yeah @ 94

 

I would imagine a lot of  high-paid specialists are looking for the escape hatch right now. They will be the canaries in the coal mine.

When the dental assistants leave, then you will know that Massachusetts is totally screwed. 

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at August 20, 2012 07:14 PM (sJTmU)

109 91 I'll admit, I was wrong about my previous argument regarding an alliance being possible between Christian conservatives and traditional Muslims.

Mr. D'Souza has been a bit of a clueless dick in the past, yes. But this "George Obama" thing is all kinds of awesome. And apparently he's doing a documentary on the guy, or something like that. That puts me in a forgiving mood.

Possibly the $1 large he threw to this neglected Obama brother is the best grand ever spent.

Posted by: Splunge at August 20, 2012 07:14 PM (2IW5Q)

110 Does this form of inverse-communism also apply to congressmen and members of the military?

Yes. Perhaps especially those who bear arms and training superior to what citizens bear at home.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 07:14 PM (QTHTd)

111 Science fiction writers are excellent at predicting the present. In the resource-scarce, economically depressed 1970s they foresaw a future of poverty and scarcity. In the post Cold War boom they foresaw a rosy future. When AIDS was a problem they foresaw a future ravaged by disease.

In their defense, they're the only writers who even bother to try thinking about the future.

Posted by: Trimegistus at August 20, 2012 07:15 PM (5ApbQ)

112 g'evenin', 'rons sorry I'm late

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 20, 2012 07:15 PM (JMmQ9)

113 BTW, how come obama doesnt look anything like his supposed father Barrack Goatherd Obama Senior or like any of Obama Senior's children?

Why does he look so much like Frank Marshall?

http://tinyurl.com/cn8roay

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 20, 2012 07:16 PM (ovpNn)

114 Good evening, all. Can't stick around tonight, but here's an update on the Colorado Music Hall of Fame theft: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_21356593 The burglars did show up in the surveillance video, so perhaps they'll be caught. Hope the items can be recovered.

Posted by: Mindy at August 20, 2012 07:16 PM (UxGCM)

115 Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 11:12 PM (QTHTd) You are so confused. Please get help.

Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 07:16 PM (Wp4rQ)

116 Many of the Republicans, including my own state rep, voted in favor of this piece of shit.

Posted by: Truman North at August 20, 2012 07:16 PM (I2LwF)

117 Gun-toting Japanese Meido? Now with nekomimi! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFa1LmrOmWU

Posted by: ザ 政治的 帽子 at August 20, 2012 07:16 PM (sZTYJ)

118 I think it is D'Souza who did the 2016 documentary on Obama, its doing quite well out in theaters. Basically its the vetting Obama should have gotten in 2008 but never did.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 07:16 PM (r4wIV)

119 110 Does this form of inverse-communism also apply to congressmen and members of the military?

Yes. Perhaps especially those who bear arms and training superior to what citizens bear at home.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 11:14 PM (QTHTd)


Sorry but if you really think that members of the military don't actually own their own pay, then that's simply an idiocy too far. I'm now moving you to the For Amusement Only category.

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 20, 2012 07:17 PM (pAlYe)

120

According to Survey USA 54% of Mo thinks Akin should bail, 35% think he should stay, 11% say rapist need love too.

 

 

http://tinyurl.com/cv85bu8

Posted by: robtr at August 20, 2012 07:17 PM (MtwBb)

121 111 Science fiction writers are excellent at predicting the present. In the resource-scarce, economically depressed 1970s they foresaw a future of poverty and scarcity. In the post Cold War boom they foresaw a rosy future. When AIDS was a problem they foresaw a future ravaged by disease.

In their defense, they're the only writers who even bother to try thinking about the future.


There's certainly plenty of amusement in the failure of the 50's SF writers to predict what the computer and Internet revolutions would look like (though Orson Scott Card got ahead of the game a bit). But check out Charles Stross' Halting State sometime, for a near-future SF vision that could actually be pretty close to what things might look like within a few decades.

Posted by: Splunge at August 20, 2012 07:18 PM (2IW5Q)

122 108
Yeah @ 94

I would imagine a lot of high-paid specialists are looking for the escape hatch right now. They will be the canaries in the coal mine.
When the dental assistants leave, then you will know that Massachusetts is totally screwed.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at August 20, 2012 11:14 PM (sJTmU)


You know some enterprising young doctors are going to set up shop right over the line from Massachusetts. Kind of like the stores that sell lottery tickets next door to a state that doesn't have the lottery.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 20, 2012 07:18 PM (1grxW)

123
49

Obama has made a lot of money selling books, too.

Posted by: holygoat at August 20, 2012 07:18 PM (auGuV)

124 Some burglars tried to rob an MMA gym, at 3 in the morning. A couple of guys were there after a late-night workout (which I presume has no homoerotic significance) and they caught the burglars.
Things didn't go well for the would be thieves.
http://tinyurl.com/9b8mrq2

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 07:18 PM (r4wIV)

125 With the interracial marriage stats, I wonder how the Democrat stats break down by race.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 20, 2012 07:19 PM (sZTYJ)

126 I want that fucking arm. What the fuck did you do? You fucking mizungo, I'm coming for you. I'm coming for you. I'm going to get you.

Posted by: George Obama at August 20, 2012 07:20 PM (6uY89)

127 Boy that George Obamma sure has a nice crease in his slacks..... just say'n

Posted by: the Mr. David Brooks at August 20, 2012 07:20 PM (LyEfv)

128 Hey eman: our family spent quite a bit in taxes in your state back in the early '80s. You should be thanking us, for all the fun stuff we didn't get to buy because we were paying for folks like you to do... whatever it was you did. And at the time we weren't even citizens; we were "resident aliens". We didn't vote. Didn't matter. Governor Dukakis and all his Democratic buddies still wetted their beaks.

Instead of gratitude for the money we spent, it's insults. But, well, I should have expected that.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 07:21 PM (QTHTd)

129 Sci Fi is about speculating about some change or idea and what effects it would have, for the most part. At least, the real thing. Asking questions like "what if we really created artificial intelligence" or "how would warfare in the future function?" They aren't so much predictive as alarmist or warning: here's how things can go wrong.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 07:21 PM (r4wIV)

130 "With the interracial marriage stats, I wonder how the Democrat stats break down by race. "
shhhhh we don't talk about how unPC blacks are!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 07:23 PM (r4wIV)

131 The burglars did show up in the surveillance video, so perhaps they'll be caught, set on fire, then drawn and quartered. Hope the items can be recovered. Posted by: Mindy at August 20, 2012 11:16 PM FIFY BTW, Danny and the Juniors just called. They said the bestest version EVAH of At The Hop was Flash Cadillac & The Continental Kids in AG

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 20, 2012 07:23 PM (JMmQ9)

132 125 With the interracial marriage stats, I wonder how the Democrat stats break down by race.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 20, 2012 11:19 PM (sZTYJ)


And gender. The black women do not like seeing the brothers with non sisters.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 20, 2012 07:23 PM (1grxW)

133 Instead of gratitude for the money we spent, it's insults. But, well, I should have expected that. Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 11:21 PM (QTHTd) You need help.

Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 07:24 PM (Wp4rQ)

134

@ 125

I would guess that the difference is pretty much statistical noise.  But the Democrats (led by Lyndon Johnson as Majority Leader of the Senate), blocked all kinds of Civil Rights legislation in the 1950's.   When it was more politically convenient for Lyndon, then it was passed.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at August 20, 2012 07:24 PM (sJTmU)

135 Politico casts the new e-book by Glenn Thrush as showing that Obama team fights among themselves. But there’s another theme in the bits that Politico has selected that reveals something more interesting, about the president himself. Obama’s trash-talking competitiveness, a trait that has defined him since his days on the court as a basketball-obsessed teenager in Hawaii, was on display one night last February, when the president spotted a woman he knew was close to Sen. Marco Rubio in a Florida hotel lobby. “Is your boy going to go for [vice president]?” the president asked her. Maybe, she replied. “Well,” he said, chuckling, according to a person who witnessed the encounter. “Tell your boy to watch it. He might get his ass kicked.”

Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2012 07:25 PM (6o4Fb)

136 FWIW there have been many sci fi authors that did not predict apocolypse. Vernor Vinge stories always had dark elements, but society had always survived.

Posted by: Hobojerky at August 20, 2012 07:25 PM (MrM2k)

137 """If I were a president worth millions, I think I could at least get my African extended family out of shanties, some basic medical care, a TV and possibly a basic cable package."""



He's an ass sucking lib/commie, they love to be generous with other people's money.

Posted by: Berserker at August 20, 2012 07:25 PM (FMbng)

138 Did that Japanese girl ever hit the target?  I was watching her ass wiggle every time she pulled the trigger.

Posted by: Billy Quizboy at August 20, 2012 07:26 PM (FEzSe)

139 ObamaÂ’s trash-talking competitiveness, a trait that has defined him since his days on the court as a basketball-obsessed teenager in Hawaii I saw that earlier today and had to laugh. The guy sat the bench on a team of asians. Barry doesn't have game.

Posted by: toby928© Ravel Rouser at August 20, 2012 07:27 PM (QupBk)

140 100 "Still, this story does show the JEF in a bad light and I'm all for that." ----- What is JEF shorthand for? Is there an acronym guide around here somewhere for a debutante 'ette?

Posted by: cate simpleton at August 20, 2012 07:27 PM (1JJGO)

141 Where they mention it, the authors also seem by-and-large optimistic about space, despite the shuttle program being on hiatus at the time. I guess the Soviets were still doing manned launches .. oh, and Mir, right.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 20, 2012 07:27 PM (gBJfr)

142 And according to PPP, Akin still leads in MO.
http://tinyurl.com/8cfld5v

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 20, 2012 07:27 PM (1grxW)

143 Obama’s trash-talking competitiveness, a trait that has defined him since his days on the court as a basketball-obsessed teenager in Hawaii, was on display one night last February, when the president spotted a woman he knew was close to Sen. Marco Rubio in a Florida hotel lobby. “Is your boy going to go for [vice president]?” the president asked her. Maybe, she replied.

“Well,” he said, chuckling, according to a person who witnessed the encounter. “Tell your boy to watch it. He might get his ass kicked.”

Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2012 11:25 PM (6o4Fb)

Why is this not caught on tape, phone, etc?

Posted by: lou's a girl at August 20, 2012 07:27 PM (EPbpF)

144 Safe predictions in Scifi deal with the future of 5000 years from now. Earlier than that and you could get called on it.

Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 07:27 PM (Wp4rQ)

145 JEF = Jug Eared InsertYourOwnFwordHere.

Posted by: toby928© Ravel Rouser at August 20, 2012 07:28 PM (QupBk)

146 139 True but he still talked shit I bet.

Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2012 07:28 PM (6o4Fb)

147 What is JEF shorthand for? Is there an acronym guide around here somewhere for a debutante 'ette? Posted by: cate simpleton at August 20, 2012 11:27 PM (1JJGO) Jug Eared F**k

Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 07:29 PM (Wp4rQ)

148 As for the military: yes, I appreciate their sacrifice. They are already paid not very much. They're already on the model of "we give you what you need and very little more".

As to whether they could be given more in the way of salary, that's a difficult question; overpaying the military has also brought down nations. They of course deserve a lot more for the sacrifices they give. How that is quantified is something I don't dare judge.

The Obamas and "civilian" government employees are in a different category.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 07:29 PM (QTHTd)

149 Gun-toting Japanese Meido?

Now with nekomimi!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFa1LmrOmWU

Posted by: ザ 政治的 帽子 at August 20, 2012 11:16 PM (sZTYJ)


Ha ha! God love the Japanese.

Posted by: holygoat at August 20, 2012 07:29 PM (auGuV)

150

     What is JEF shorthand for? Is there an acronym guide around here somewhere for a debutante 'ette?

 

 

That would be Jug Earred Fool(or something else).

Posted by: JimboHoffa at August 20, 2012 07:31 PM (dAfqy)

151 I was watching "Ice Station Zebra" with the hubby and I swear, every single Rock Hudson movie I watch, I'm totally not picking up any gay vibes from him.  Dude is still hot.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 20, 2012 07:31 PM (DoZD+)

152 Boy that George Obamma sure has a nice crease in his slacks..... just say'n Posted by: the Mr. David Brooks at August 20, 2012 11:20 PM (LyEfv) I had a Grandfather who grew up very poor. He would always make sure his pants were perfectly creased and his shoes perfectly shines no matter what. I guess that back then, just because you were poor didn't mean that you had to act anything less then a presentable gentleman.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 20, 2012 07:31 PM (sZTYJ)

153 143 And according to PPP, Akin still leads in MO.
http://tinyurl.com/8cfld5v

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 20, 2012 11:27 PM (1grxW)

I think they really want him to stay in the race, keep the story out there

Posted by: lou's a girl at August 20, 2012 07:31 PM (EPbpF)

154

Obama has game!

 

Obama has a big mouth, and a willingness to lie about everything about himself.

Will to win?  When was he ever challenged to "win"?  When they smeared Jack Ryan to drive him out of the Senate Race?  Playing the caucus game in the Democrat party primaries to trash Hillary, who was and is a somewhat hated woman among some Democrats?

In the only political race in his life where it was an uphill battle, he got battered by Bobby Rush (former Black Panther) for an Illinois Congressional seat Democrat nomination.

 

Yeah, he's got game.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at August 20, 2012 07:32 PM (sJTmU)

155 142 Why is this not caught on tape, phone, etc?

I hope it's not. If it were, his campaign would probably release it themselves. He'd love it -- Obama relaxed, looking vaguely tough in a way that only academic types would think was tough, throwing out an insult whose vulgar history he has a racial immunity from. That's not how we'll kick his ass. We'll kick his ass either by, on the one hand, putting him on the defensive and getting him angry, so he looks like the petulant, prissy narcissistic solipsist that he is, or by getting him relaxed enough to spout more "you didn't build that" Marxist successful-upper-middle-class-people-are-the-enemy bullcrap.

Posted by: Splunge at August 20, 2012 07:33 PM (2IW5Q)

156 151 I noticed he does better in movies like that,he is believable a manly man.

Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2012 07:33 PM (6o4Fb)

157 man, you would think someone at Blizzard would tell their employees to shut the fuck up and stop pouring fuel onto the fire

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 07:34 PM (tw6Ar)

158

Posted by: Splunge at August 20, 2012 11:33 PM (2IW5Q) , True that would be a plus for his voters.

Posted by: lou's a girl at August 20, 2012 07:34 PM (EPbpF)

159 " every single Rock Hudson movie I watch, I'm totally not picking up any gay vibes from him. Dude is still hot."
Yeah he really hid it well, if the rumors are to be believed. Rock was all that is man, he definitely doesn't fit the stereotype.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 07:37 PM (r4wIV)

160 I dunno about a barely known brother, but I do know about a barely known mother. I'm adopted, my mom and dad are fantastic, couldn't choose better if I had the pick of humanity. 10 years ago my birth mom contacted me. This was just before I got married and I insisted that she fly up for the wedding. I introduced mom to mom just like that: "Mom, meet mom. Mom, mom". Just because she hadn't been around for 35 years didn't change who she was ( in fact that's how I greeted her on the phone, the first time we talked "I haven't seen you in 35 years, what ya been up to?") a year or two later, bonus mom has a real crisis, a huge, monumental deal. When I found out I was on the next plane to Florida. What else are you gona do? It's family, and that means something. Hell, it means everything. That being said, she has a big antipathy to Romney. I dunno where she got that, not my blood, that's for sure, but I'm pretty sure I've convinced her to vote for Gary Johnson.

Posted by: Weirddave at August 20, 2012 07:38 PM (2x+V2)

161

Have to say that commercial is at least as good as F&J Furniture's.

 

http://tiny.cc/wagdjw

Posted by: easy at August 20, 2012 07:38 PM (Yzz9l)

162 Hmm. ESPN says that Augusta National have accepted Condi Rice as a member.

Posted by: toby928© Ravel Rouser at August 20, 2012 07:38 PM (QupBk)

163 he definitely doesn't fit the stereotype. Unless it's the "like a Viking" stereotype.

Posted by: Scobface at August 20, 2012 07:38 PM (IoNBC)

164 Did that Japanese girl ever hit the target? I was watching her ass wiggle every time she pulled the trigger. Posted by: Billy Quizboy at August 20, 2012 11:26 PM (FEzSe) Girls n' Guns - The perfect combination! ( ̄ー ̄

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 20, 2012 07:39 PM (sZTYJ)

165 Hmm. ESPN says that Augusta National have accepted Condi Rice as a member.

Posted by: toby928© Ravel Rouser at August 20, 2012 11:38 PM (QupBk)


yeah, her and another girl was announced as the first women members today

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 07:39 PM (tw6Ar)

166 The overpressure debris kicked up by the .50 is incredible. Good thing the maid had her glasses on or she coulda put an eye out.

Posted by: JimboHoffa at August 20, 2012 07:40 PM (dAfqy)

167 Until then, all you "earned" was extorted ..... Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 11:12 PM Dude, that was so outrageous I skipped the rest of the thread. Apologies if this is a duplicate response to this stupidity. I am a fucking combat veteran, you PEE OHH ESS. As a member of the military, I was on the public payroll. Extortion, huh? Re-think your position, junior, sometime when you're not half in the bag. That series of statements is absolutely indefensible. Douche.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at August 20, 2012 07:40 PM (a4CUi)

168

43, 47

I do not think he has a true emotional attachment to anyone.
If you got nothing they need, they don't want to know you.That the way narcissists are. There's only people they can use and exploit
  This! Anyone who has had the misfortune of being closely associated with a narcissist can instantly recognize the signs. I pegged SCOAMF (as I know y'all did, too) right away. The Greek columns shoulda tipped off the ones who weren't.

Posted by: Kalneva at August 20, 2012 07:40 PM (cQmXn)

169 #162 And one other woman too, Toby, although I can't recall her name.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 20, 2012 07:40 PM (vDl/w)

170 131 AltonJackson, funny you should say that. Here's what the band says about it: "We left the tracks very dry, no echo or reverb, because they would be played back over a PA system in the gym for the scene in the movie. They sounded great in the movie, but pretty dull on the soundtrack album."

Posted by: Mindy at August 20, 2012 07:40 PM (UxGCM)

171 Also Darla Moore.

Posted by: toby928© Ravel Rouser at August 20, 2012 07:40 PM (QupBk)

172 I thought the future predictions were reasonably accurate overall, though there was a lot of wishcasting re off Earth colonization and peace on Earth.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 20, 2012 07:40 PM (ccXZP)

173 @  167

      I agree.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 20, 2012 07:41 PM (SAMxH)

174 What was your Blizzard reference about, The Dude? Did something happen to rock the WoW world today?

Posted by: andycanuck at August 20, 2012 07:42 PM (vDl/w)

175 As a lefty, the first mistake I make with that .50 cal is the last one. Broken jaw, I figure.

Posted by: t-bird at August 20, 2012 07:42 PM (FcR7P)

176 "The overpressure debris kicked up by the .50 is incredible."
That was one of the interesting bits in Sons of Guns when they chopped a 50 cal rifle down and put a suppressor on it; it didn't suppress much and it lost a crapload of power. They eventually worked it out but the first try was an amazing display of how pressure and muzzle velocity work together.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 07:42 PM (r4wIV)

177 Well, a new life does await you in the off-world colonies.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 20, 2012 07:43 PM (vDl/w)

178 The groups — both founded by ex-Navy SEALs — are political action committees made up of military veterans. President Obama is writing off the attacks as partisan and unfounded. “I don’t take these folks too seriously. One of their members is a ‘birther’ who denies I was born here, despite evidence to the contrary,” Obama told The Virginian-Pilot. “You’ve got another who was a tea party candidate in a recent election.”

Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2012 07:44 PM (6o4Fb)

179 Funny the two women that are chosen for membership in Augusta that one is a Republican and the other is probably a GOP leaning businesswoman, not a shrill leftist harpy that the media was pushing for.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 20, 2012 07:45 PM (1grxW)

180 168 43, 47
I do not think he has a true emotional attachment to anyone.
If you got nothing they need, they don't want to know you.That the way narcissists are. There's only people they can use and exploit




He does seem to be a caring father.  That's just about the only thing about him I can compliment.

btw - I just now noticed that the last 3 presidents have no sons.   Huh.  Conspiracy theory being hatched.

Posted by: Billy Quizboy at August 20, 2012 07:46 PM (FEzSe)

181 “I don’t take these folks too seriously"
He could be saying that about anyone in the military. Don't take the men seriously, then. Take what they say.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 07:46 PM (r4wIV)

182 I've never seen the resemblance to Frank M Davis. Then again, I've never seen the resemblance to Barack Sr either. But if I had to go with one of them, I'd go with Barack Sr. Plus I see a little resemblance to George. He probably just looks more like Stanley Ann. But we weren't expecting him to actually help someone out with his own money, were we? Oh, and thanks to whoever pointed out that the brother's keeper thing was not a command. Cain used that to try to get God off his back after murdering his bro.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 20, 2012 07:46 PM (6zgse)

183 What was your Blizzard reference about, The Dude? Did something happen to rock the WoW world today?

Posted by: andycanuck at August 20, 2012 11:42 PM (vDl/w)


they've been spazzing out because David Brevik shat on D3 in an interview and are now going after forum posters

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 07:47 PM (tw6Ar)

184 As to whether they could be given more in the way of salary, that's a difficult question; overpaying the military has also brought down nations. They of course deserve a lot more for the sacrifices they give. How that is quantified is something I don't dare judge.

The Obamas and "civilian" government employees are in a different category.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 11:29 PM (QTHTd)

 

 

That's already been decided, when I joined the Marines at $210 a month we had a military where some would go fight if there was a fight and we would fill in with the draft. 75% of Vietnam Vets enilisted.  Before that in WWII 33% enlisted 66% were drafted.

 

Now we want/have a professional military. There is no draft and not a whole lot of people want to join. So if you want a professional Military you have to meet the market with wages and benefits. 

Posted by: robtr at August 20, 2012 07:47 PM (MtwBb)

185 178 “I don’t take these folks too seriously. One of their members is a ‘birther’ who denies I was born here, despite evidence to the contrary,” Obama told The Virginian-Pilot. “You’ve got another who was a tea party candidate in a recent election.”

Of course he doesn't. In his mind, he bagged bin Laden himself, fired the shot, flew the frickin Stealth helicopter. Bet you anything he had already worked out whom to blame if the raid went wrong. Gutless piece of dung.

Posted by: Splunge at August 20, 2012 07:48 PM (2IW5Q)

186 de-italicize. Sorry

Posted by: Splunge at August 20, 2012 07:48 PM (2IW5Q)

187  179 The 2 members that the commie media nominated were Katie Courick and Helen Thomas. The governing board at Augusta crapped.

Posted by: JimboHoffa at August 20, 2012 07:48 PM (dAfqy)

188 145, 147 and 150 Ah! Thank you. Very apt. Googling was absolutely no help with that one.

Posted by: cate simpleton at August 20, 2012 07:50 PM (1JJGO)

189

It's such BS that the left gets away with that "brother's keeper" line. Totally the opposite meaning. But then most of 'em haven't even cracked a bible, let alone made  it through the first chapter.

Posted by: Not a thumper, but thinks one should be literate at August 20, 2012 07:50 PM (cQmXn)

190 Thanks, The Dude. I have friends that videogame, although I don't, so  I was just wondering. They're not too happy with the latest WoW and the one who's played d3 said it wasn't bad but it wasn't worth it especially when you'd been expecting much better. And from my brief Googling of Mr Brevik's name, it looks like your opinion is shared by many.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 20, 2012 07:51 PM (vDl/w)

191 ... "civilian" government employees are in a different category. Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 11:29 PM So the cops who take fires from murdering assholes and the firemen who dive into an inferno save your stupid ass are all extortionists, eh? Shut. The. Fuck. Up. Now.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at August 20, 2012 07:52 PM (a4CUi)

192 Ah! Thank you. Very apt. Googling was absolutely no help with that one. Posted by: cate simpleton at August 20, 2012 11:50 PM (1JJGO) there is a small amount of lingo here abouts,

Posted by: Jake in ID at August 20, 2012 07:53 PM (LyEfv)

193 Where did they find the video of 'Rum shooting her gun in her maids outfit and stompy boots?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at August 20, 2012 07:53 PM (SkyIE)

194

Maybe this one works.

 

http://tinyurl.com/bfescs

Posted by: easy at August 20, 2012 07:55 PM (Yzz9l)

195 google .50 caliber bikini lota of physics to noodle on

Posted by: Jake in ID at August 20, 2012 07:56 PM (LyEfv)

196

Posted by: andycanuck at August 20, 2012 11:51 PM (vDl/w)


it's mainly in how bad the loot tables are setup, me having to junk legendaries because my blues are better should never be allowed to happen as it defeats the purpose of loot whoring

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 07:56 PM (tw6Ar)

197

Oops, "book", not chapter. Doh.

Posted by: Pedant for whom it's been a long time since Sunday School at August 20, 2012 07:56 PM (cQmXn)

198 "I think that public employees whilst they are serving should treat their money as an allowance. After leaving public service - and I stress, government employment is service - then, yes, you keep your money.

Until then, all you "earned" was extorted from Massachusetts taxpayers."

That's retarded. Like, window-licking, plushy-fucking with a football helmet retarded. So soldiers, police officers, mayors, and judges are subject to state-approval as to what they do with their wages? So, preventing them from, say, contributing to political campaigns is kosher? Or buying foreign products? Or even out of state products? How about hiring servants of one class or another? Buying a firearm? And if someone DOES receive such money, are they subject to these restrictions as well?

Does this "logic" extend to corporate salaries as well? After all, the shareholders are the owners of the entity, and all moneys "belong" to them; any money paid to employees or officers or directors is "extorted" from them and the only way to escape this (other than firing the directors) is to sell your shares and go elsewhere.

This whole idea should have been aborted immediately. It's logically unsustainable and asinine to boot.

Posted by: Dawnfire at August 20, 2012 07:56 PM (bIeax)

199

108
Yeah @ 94

I would imagine a lot of high-paid specialists are looking for the escape hatch right now. They will be the canaries in the coal mine.
***************************************

That ship already sailed. Small private practices across the country are rapidly becoming a thing of the past, as doctors see the writing on the Obamacare wall and bail in one of three different directions-

1. Become a hospital employee

2. Join a mega-group practice (Kaiser Permanente et al.)

3. Figure out a way to take early retirement and do something other than medicine.

Once the private practice of medicine is gone, the owners will have the docs over the proverbial barrel.  The coming shortage of primary care docs will be EPIC in nature. The specialists are trying to carve out niches where they will be able to do "the fun stuff" while minimizing actually avoiding sick people. When I owned my practice it was not unusual to work 30 days out of 31 in a given month. I gave my cell phone number to patients and actually answered it after hours. I went the extra mile for 'my' patients. The regulatory burdens and shrinking reimbursements were squeezing me hard. Now that I am "on the clock"- not so much. I meet the terms of my employment contract, but when I am off duty, I am all the way off duty. Primary care docs are abdicating ownership of their practices left and right.  More and more docs are job sharing (working part time), and fewer and fewer define themselves primarily as a physician.  Try calling a primary care office and speaking to a physician some time. Even as a consultant physician calling to speak to a primary doc about 6-8 times out of 10 the doc I need to talk to is "out of the office" or "not working today" or otherwise not available. And the federal government is so deeply enmeshed in the whole reimbursement and accreditation schemes that simply moving across a state line will not alleviate the problem. The pace of all this is accelerating in my view. /rant off

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 20, 2012 08:00 PM (hgSh3)

200 I think they left WoW quite a while ago before the loot problem started but I seem to recall one of them complaining about how the loot works now too when he occasionally plays it.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 20, 2012 08:01 PM (vDl/w)

201 “Well,” he said, chuckling, according to a person who witnessed the encounter. “Tell your boy to watch it. He might get his ass kicked.” Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2012 11:25 PM

I didn't hear "boy!"

Posted by: Maureen Dowd at August 20, 2012 08:01 PM (wwsoB)

202

Posted by: Jake in ID at August 20, 2012 11:56 PM (LyEfv)


only 50 cal scene ever needed
http://tinyurl.com/9qsa5m5

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 08:02 PM (tw6Ar)

203 The police? Buncha leeches off the government obviously.

Posted by: Boulder TruCon at August 20, 2012 08:03 PM (8HhF2)

204 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK4ikaqBYnI

Posted by: Malfunctioning Eddie at August 20, 2012 08:03 PM (sZTYJ)

205

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 21, 2012 12:00 AM (hgSh3)

 

The other 'new' thing is a lot of young Drs. are traveling, and working multiple offices at the same time (different days of the week).  I know of one local Doc who words at 4 different clinics.... a day here... a day there... to take care of walk in patients...

 

but he's not building the relationships we got used to growing up... he is treating symptoms and cases, not patients IMO.

 

( I work in IT, specializing in Electronic Medical Record Programs)...

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 20, 2012 08:06 PM (lZBBB)

206 The police? Buncha leeches off the government obviously. Posted by: Boulder TruCon at August 21, 2012 12:03 AM (8HhF2) I want my MTV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIlfc2Josas

Posted by: Sting at August 20, 2012 08:07 PM (sZTYJ)

207 the idiom of "Be careful with what you wish" for was proven correct today. So swamped with work

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 08:07 PM (tw6Ar)

208

I'm thinking that the Japanese chick needs some shootin' lessons from yours truly. She won't even need to alter her position, except maybe lift her hips a bit.

I'm also thinking that maybe the Japanese really shouldn't be provoking the Chinese over those desolate little islands.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 20, 2012 08:08 PM (nZvGM)

209 #199 As Kate at Small Dead Animals says re. that, Seamus Muldoon, "no one has to be a doctor." Something that happened here in Ontario too was that the OMA purposefully cut down on the number of doctors (in the '90s?) to make their services more in demand so they'd get higher pay for billings and that's led to a shortage today even in major centres like Toronto where there's no detriment to lifestyles that hinders getting doctors in more rural areas.

The established doctors also cut out newcomers to monopolize as many billings to themselves as possible. I have a heart surgeon friend who's moved to the States (he has an American wife too though) because he couldn't get a full-time gig at a hospital even in areas outside of the Toronto area. One hospital heart surgeon who had a virtual veto over his hiring was doing something like twice as many heart surgeries p.a. as the average American heart surgeon to make as many billings as possible.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 20, 2012 08:09 PM (vDl/w)

210 Former GM CEO Bob Lutz and other fanboys got butthurt over Forbes article, tells us how awesome GM is and everyone wants a Chevy or Caddy

Save GM from its Defenders

http://tinyurl.com/ctr4hzu


Posted by: kbdabear at August 20, 2012 08:10 PM (wwsoB)

211 "I'm also thinking that maybe the Japanese really shouldn't be provoking the Chinese over those desolate little islands."
Its been back and forth for decades. Each side claims them, neither really has them. The bottom line is oil; Japan has controlled them for a long time and China sort of made noises about wanting them, but suddenly now oil has been discovered in the area, now they are pressing the issue.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 08:10 PM (r4wIV)

212 203 The police? Buncha leeches off the government obviously. Posted by: Boulder TruCon at August 21, 2012 12:03 AM More than any of would like, yes. The thing is, most of them are legit. They don't like the stupid union shit and most of the rank and file guys hate the IACP and are willing to say so, when their asses aren't at risk. Same with the fire fighters. Many of both occupations are military veterans. They get it. Much like any other government org, they are fucked over by "leadership" who has succumbed to the grease in may cases. Painting the civilian grunts in our public safety sector as extortion artists is completely out to lunch. Those guys kick ass, for the VAST most part. There are bad apples in every group, but smearing all these guys off a small percentage is not acceptable.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at August 20, 2012 08:12 PM (a4CUi)

213 Its been back and forth for decades. Each side claims them, neither really has them. The bottom line is oil; Japan has controlled them for a long time and China sort of made noises about wanting them, but suddenly now oil has been discovered in the area, now they are pressing the issue. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2012 12:10 AM (r4wIV) So, flying Chinese kung-fu masters vs. Japanese maid robots.

Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 08:13 PM (Wp4rQ)

214 That's happened here too, Romeo. I don't think it's for local doctors' veto reasons but alot of GPs can't afford to set up a private practice so they work at multiple clinics. And people are going to walk-in clinics because they can't get a full-time GP for themselves.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 20, 2012 08:13 PM (vDl/w)

215

@209- Yeah, there is a lot of jostling over an ever shrinking pie.  Some places it is downright cutthroat. It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out here. I can guarantee that the PPACA will not improve access to health care of good quality at decreased costs.  Probably two of the three will take a hit (access, quality, cost).

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 20, 2012 08:13 PM (hgSh3)

216 Yo M and M's.

Posted by: zeera at August 20, 2012 08:14 PM (XtxRN)

217 199 Seamus,
 
My primary care physician joined a hospital group and now my costs to see him have skyrocketed. He's a good doc, but I pay cash and I just can't afford hospital type rates.
 
I'm looking into a monthly fee doc now. You pay $20/month to be a member....then office visits are $15 and unlimited, minor surgeries/stitches are $25, and bloodwork is hella cheap for the stuff they do in-house. As an example, a cholesterol test is $12 versus $80 charged through my PCP.
 
If the g.d. gubmint would get the hell out of the way, healthcare could become affordable once again.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 20, 2012 08:15 PM (ccXZP)

218 I got nuthin'

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 20, 2012 08:15 PM (8sCoq)

219 BTH, I think I understand what you're saying but really, if a person sells their labor to the state, then doesn't the person selling his/her labor enjoy full possession of the remuneration thereto?

Posted by: chemjeff at August 20, 2012 08:15 PM (d/5qf)

220 Japan has an advanced and well trained navy.The Chinese would get their asses kicked.

Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2012 08:16 PM (6o4Fb)

221 @217- That is a really big "IF"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 20, 2012 08:16 PM (hgSh3)

222 If the g.d. gubmint would get the hell out of the way, healthcare could become affordable once again. Posted by: GnuBreed at August 21, 2012 12:15 AM (ccXZP) Indeed so and not just healthcare.

Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 08:17 PM (Wp4rQ)

223 So the cops who take fires from murdering assholes and the firemen who dive into an inferno save your stupid ass are all extortionists, eh?

Shut. The. Fuck. Up. Now.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at August 20, 2012 11:52 PM (a4CUi)

Cops and firemen aren't even in the top ten most dangerous professions. I'll reserve my awe for the farmers and fishermen who put the food on my table and have far more deadly work environments (after the servicemen, of course).

Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 20, 2012 08:17 PM (nZvGM)

224 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 21, 2012 12:00 AM (hgSh3) This perfectly ties in with my "spider bite" anecdote. I don't have a family practioner, because I only use GYN services, and, even if I wanted a family dr., most don't take new patients. So when I think I have a spider bite, I can't wait for three weeks. I go to a walk in clinic, as described above, where there is a rotating staff. When I go in 4 days later with worsening symptoms, not the same dr. Then that dr. Under-prescribes and ER follows. Shoulda gone to the ER in the first place. And yes, I know. You all said it. The take-home is that cheesecake factory style healthcare (google it) is not ideal. /

Posted by: Kalneva at August 20, 2012 08:18 PM (cQmXn)

225 eman, the Dude, holygoat,

Kenichi Sonoda will be found fapping in his bunk ....  all she is missing is neko ears.

Cannon God Exaxxion anyone?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 08:19 PM (cubpP)

226

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at August 21, 2012 12:12 AM (a4CUi)

 

But of the total of Government emplyees, just how many ARE Firefighters, Police, or frontline Teachers....

 

I personaly have no problem compensating them well.... its the F'n Stupid overpaid DMV clerk... or EPA wonk... ie... the other 90% of Government employees...

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 20, 2012 08:19 PM (lZBBB)

227 OK, I'm out if you gave me a Chevy Corvette tomorrow, I'd have it loaded up on a flat bed and taken to the nearest Ford dealer and trade it in on the biggest, bad-est Earth Fcuker™ Ford has to offer and a couple of Fusions to round out the deal. When I buy a car, I buy a car that I can afford. And when I say "afford", I mean a Ford. Corvette's are hot and all, but they've been dead to me since they lost the chrome. tomorrow night, mi amigos. I shall endeavor to be on time.

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 20, 2012 08:20 PM (JMmQ9)

228 Here is what Warren posted on her Facebook page: The agenda of the Republican Party is to limit access to health care services. It’s to deny women equal pay for equal work. It’s to cut funding for Planned Parenthood. And it’s to select as a vice presidential nominee someone who co-sponsored legislation with Rep. Akin to ‘redefine rape.’ Scott Brown and other Republicans want to pretend Todd Akin is an isolated individual, but he is clearly in line with the Republican agenda.

Posted by: steevy at August 20, 2012 08:20 PM (6o4Fb)

229 Cops and firemen aren't even in the top ten most dangerous professions. Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 21, 2012 12:17 AM That is an absolutely accurate and true statement. As a shit-healed farm-boy who grew up raising beef cattle and walnuts, I'll agree with every emotion in your statement. Bravo!

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at August 20, 2012 08:21 PM (a4CUi)

230 If we don't raise taxes RIGHT NOW, all of the firefighters and police officers will have to be laid off!  There will be riots in the streets!  Whole neighborhoods will burn down!  Anarchy will reign!

What's that you say?  Instead of firing the cops, fire the Assistant Associate Vice-Administrator for Transgender Diversity?  No no no, that person is *indispensable*!

Posted by: Typical Liberal Fearmonger at August 20, 2012 08:21 PM (d/5qf)

231

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 12:19 AM (cubpP)


actually never read that series

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 08:23 PM (tw6Ar)

232

Now I'm cynical enough to strongly suspect some kind of scam going on here

 

Now would an Obama be a grifter?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 20, 2012 08:23 PM (oX7vY)

233 That Bookworm essay Maet linked on Japanese vs American culture is well worth the read.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 20, 2012 08:24 PM (ccXZP)

234 I personaly have no problem compensating them well.... its the F'n Stupid overpaid DMV clerk... or EPA wonk... ie... the other 90% of Government employees... Posted by: Romeo13 at August 21, 2012 12:19 AM (lZBBB) Getting rid of useless government jobs is one thing, but saying that government employees are basically slaves is another. I earned my god damned fucking pay and anyone who says otherwise can go fuck themselves with a piano. I was not anyone's servant. I was an employee.

Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 08:25 PM (Wp4rQ)

235

   230 There will be riots in the streets! Whole neighborhoods will burn down! Anarchy will reign!
Posted by: Typical Liberal Fearmonger at August 21, 2012 12:21 AM (d/5qf)

 

 

Is it Nov 7th already?

Posted by: JimboHoffa at August 20, 2012 08:25 PM (dAfqy)

236 There will be riots in the streets! Whole neighborhoods will burn down! Anarchy will reign! as luck would have it, I'm prepared for that. tomorrow night, my friends

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 20, 2012 08:25 PM (JMmQ9)

237 228 Thanks, Akin! Hope your grandchildren enjoy the world you single-handedly fucked them over with. Akin is the new verb. But probably confusing, with achin'. (I'm absolutely sure this is not original, so no accusations of plagiarism, ok?) Haven't been on the internets today.

Posted by: Kalneva at August 20, 2012 08:26 PM (cQmXn)

238 Living inside an Orwellian presidency within the supposed framework of a constitutional republic produces a toxic zen like state where one can only imagine how far down the proverbial rabbit hole the sociopaths running the executive branch will dig. Should we inform the universe that down is now up? Or perhaps this is indeed what a fish riding a bicycle throwing it's arms around the world as U2's the Edge had in mind lo those many years ago in his song. How many times will the urban dictionary be updated to capture the current word form of a country defeated by hope and change?

Posted by: Journolist at August 20, 2012 08:28 PM (q7YYY)

239 Getting rid of useless government jobs is one thing, but saying that government employees are basically slaves is another.

If only they were!

Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 08:29 PM (QTHTd)

240 192 there is a small amount of lingo here abouts, Posted by: Jake in ID at August 20, 2012 11:53 PM (LyEfv) Yes, but y'all are very creative about it! Am often in stitches when reading comments here. Best to laugh than cry in the beer and water it down.

Posted by: cate simpleton at August 20, 2012 08:29 PM (1JJGO)

241 That's the dirty little secret behind the small government movement that nobody wants to talk about: it means firing a lot of people. Tens of thousands, which would incredibly impact the economy in the short run. But it has to be done.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 08:29 PM (r4wIV)

242 Posted by: Romeo13 at August 21, 2012 12:19 AM Same page, dude. I agree with you all the way. My prob is shitting on ALL of govt. The useless bureaucrats, and not all of them are, can eat shit. Some, like the engineers at the Office of Engineering Technology at the FCC, the sad-sacks trying to keep the dipshit political appointees from fucking up the entire radio spectrum every single day (see: Lightsquared), are solid as a rock. This is about politics. Hyperbole is a problem in this regard. Stating that all government is extortion is stupid beyond the pale. ALOT of what government does is actually go to go. And has been for a zillion years. It's the stupid shit that has no broad public upside, versus retardedly massive expense, we need to focus on.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at August 20, 2012 08:29 PM (a4CUi)

243

obama dismisses Navy Seals because of their politics, hello, they have a right to their opinion, even though they brought up a serious issue of National Security.

AOS cover this, disgraceful

Posted by: lou's a girl at August 20, 2012 08:30 PM (EPbpF)

244 (Hope AoSers don't mind if I repost this here. I originally put it up about a half hour ago at Patterico's, but it appears to be caught in his spam filter.)

**Advance warning: language and ultraviolent imagery below. Yeah, IÂ’m pissed off.

Re Akin: ItÂ’s at this point that I think itÂ’s time the inner GOP apparatus finally stops behaving like pampered ivy-league lettermen, and learns to keep its nominees in line like the gangland thugs in the DNC do.

First, make it an ironclad new rule in the GOP: it doesn’t matter if you won your primary by 9000%. If you embarrass the party in any way before the party’s selection deadline, you, your career, funding support, and whole staff “disappears.” Literally. Forever.

And then, if I were Reince Priebus, I’d fly directly to Missouri, sit this idiot down and, in my all-time best R. Lee Ermey impression voice, say to him, “Mr. Akin, you utter and complete dumb-ass, stupid, shit-for-brained son of a bitch from hell, I don’t care if Jesus Christ, Buddha, and Yahweh themselves all personally came down from heaven last night and lined up to each give you blowjobs that would kill Bill Clinton, and I don’t give a flying fuck what all your major or minor malfunctions are, or how many nights you’ve wasted massaging your tiny, tiny dick and fantasizing of being Senator or King or the Emperor of Ice Cream. Tell me you’ve decided to quit this race in the next five seconds, or you and your entire family will die early from the enormous lifelong stress we’ll place you all under for the rest of your shitstained lives. Get the hell out of this senate race THIS VERY SECOND, or we’ll throw you out, off a bridge, and directly onto a revving chainsaw blade.”

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 20, 2012 08:32 PM (7B7jB)

245 chemjeff: my point is that the State is coercive. eman here is butthurt that I am saying he should be treated as... his government treated me, as a foreigner living in his territory. "Taxed without representation", as the saying goes.

In effect, my family worked for him.

It should be the other way around.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 20, 2012 08:33 PM (QTHTd)

246 fucking MvM mode, 139 people in queue with 208 empty servers to get a 169 minute queue time

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 08:34 PM (tw6Ar)

247 Jesus Christ already forgave me and so should you.

Posted by: Todd Akin at August 20, 2012 08:36 PM (8HhF2)

248 So, flying Chinese kung-fu masters vs. Japanese maid robots. Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 12:13 AM (Wp4rQ) So, Shampoo vs. Mahoro? http://ranma.wikia.com/wiki/Shampoo http://myanimelist.net/character/1314/Mahoro_Ando

Posted by: ザ 政治的 帽子 at August 20, 2012 08:37 PM (sZTYJ)

249 I'm also thinking that maybe the Japanese really shouldn't be provoking the Chinese over those desolate little islands. Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 21, 2012 12:08 AM (nZvGM) I'm here to tell ya', them Japs is fighters now. Same as the Canal in '42. Tough. But there's way toos many Chinese up in the hills. They're everywhere. But, they had me surrounded at the Chosin. Heh. Made things simple. I had the little bastards right where I wanted 'em.

Posted by: Zombie Chesty Puller at August 20, 2012 08:37 PM (jaYl7)

250 244 Get the hell out of this senate race THIS VERY
SECOND, or weÂ’ll throw you out, off a bridge, and directly onto a
revving chainsaw blade.”


I think something like this will happen, very soon. But it won't be in public. I will be very surprised if the withdrawal form is not duly filed in plenty of time for the deadline, tomorrow, unless Akin is a very strange bird, of the Obama/Crist type.

Posted by: Splunge at August 20, 2012 08:38 PM (2IW5Q)

251 No queue for this game- has my cow-orkers distracted right now.

http://www.sinuousgame.com/

Posted by: Hagbard Celine at August 20, 2012 08:39 PM (+/VIS)

252 Well, I've had enough of the Akins' seppuku* crowd for the night. See you later. (*Something on-topic for tonight's ONT, I'd add.)

Posted by: andycanuck at August 20, 2012 08:40 PM (vDl/w)

253 if you gave me a Chevy Corvette tomorrow, I'd have it loaded up on a flat bed and taken to the nearest Ford dealer and trade it in on the biggest, bad-est Earth Fcuker™ Ford has to offer and a couple of Fusions to round out the deal.

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 21, 2012 12:20 AM

After all these lefties telling us that GM's problem was that they "weren't selling cars people want to buy", Americans are still ignoring the cars that politicians want them to buy. The bulk of their final sales outside of fleet and rental companies are the full size trucks and SUVs. You know, the gaia killing gas guzzlers the people didn't want anymore.

The bread and butter of companies are the mid sized 4 door sedans. When I visit dealerships, I see the Chevy Malibu and Kia Optima, and the Optima looks like a better car for less money. Ford's Fusion isn't much better for the money either. Best value is probably still the Camry.

If I had the money, and I don't, I'd go with the Audi A6. The A4 isn't bad either






Posted by: kbdabear at August 20, 2012 08:40 PM (wwsoB)

254 247 Jesus Christ already forgave me and so should you. Posted by: Todd Akin at August 21, 2012 12:36 AM (8HhF2) Life is hard, Pilgrim. It's even harder when you're stupid.

Posted by: George Washington McClintock at August 20, 2012 08:40 PM (jaYl7)

255 GM did get it really right with the Corvette, I'll give them that. Its a sweet ride. But the rest of their line is pretty awful.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 08:42 PM (r4wIV)

256 eman, the Dude, holygoat, Kenichi Sonoda will be found fapping in his bunk .... all she is missing is neko ears. Cannon God Exaxxion anyone? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 12:19 AM (cubpP) Yup. http://tinyurl.com/9xohxtq

Posted by: ザ 政治的 帽子 at August 20, 2012 08:45 PM (sZTYJ)

257 The Dude it would be right up your alley I would think.

Human genius scientist gets a hold of alien tech.  So one of the first things he creates are very busty and happy female androids.  He is also a pervert and a super genius.  And he gives his grandson the keys to a super giant mecha to fight off the aliens who have occupied the Earth while pretending to be there to help mankind.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 08:45 PM (cubpP)

258 Is this Mary Clogginstein of Brattleboro, VT in this Subaru commercial?

http://tinyurl.com/94p4osb

Posted by: kbdabear at August 20, 2012 08:46 PM (wwsoB)

259 it means firing a lot of people.

Using attrition makes it less heinous.  Replace only for the critical, retrain/reassign if someone is good, etc.  Takes a bit longer, but accomplishes the same thing and reduces the sudden shocks to the system.

One thing that needs to happen is more cross agency deployment of resources.  It should become commonplace for people to move around during their careers and do different jobs.   The military does it as a matter of course in the development of its senior officer corps.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 20, 2012 08:47 PM (WnzOT)

260 There will be riots in the streets! Whole neighborhoods will burn down! Anarchy will reign! as luck would have it, I'm prepared for that. tomorrow night, my friends Posted by: AltonJackson at August 21, 2012 12:25 AM (JMmQ9)-/i] A little mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-uFp0m2xNs

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 20, 2012 08:48 PM (sZTYJ)

261 eman here is butthurt that I am saying he should be treated as... his government treated me, as a foreigner living in his territory. "Taxed without representation", as the saying goes. In effect, my family worked for him. It should be the other way around. Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 21, 2012 12:33 AM (QTHTd) You really need some counseling or something. Dude, I was a chemist who worked for MA. I did a job that Massachusetts law said should be done. I worked, they paid me. You are the one who is butthurt. You are the one who has a grievance that has distorted his thinking. Your twisted view of what government service is is the issue here. You call people extortionists and think they should be treated as slaves and then you have the gall to complain about being insulted and then call me butthurt. Man, you take the cake. This is my final response to you.

Posted by: eman at August 20, 2012 08:49 PM (Wp4rQ)

262 252 Well, I've had enough of the Akins' seppuku* crowd for the night. See you later. (*Something on-topic for tonight's ONT, I'd add.) Posted by: andycanuck at August 21, 2012 12:40 AM (vDl/w) He can use my ceremonial dagger, if he wants. He'll have to go find it, though. It's somewhere on Saipan. Are we cool on the whole Pearl Harbor thing? Bitchin'! Gomenasai dozo.

Posted by: ADM Chuichi Nagumo at August 20, 2012 08:50 PM (jaYl7)

263 The problem is a lot of areas have to be cut deeply right now to survive and that means job losses right away. Yeah you lose a thousand or two people a year from retirement and accident, but even shuffling people around that won't really be enough. Jobs will have to be lost.
Getting rid of, for example, the farrier's position in Detroit is a matter of a few jobs. Getting rid of the National Endowment for the Arts? That's lot of worthless jobs lost.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2012 08:50 PM (r4wIV)

264 Just popping in, can't stay, but that Drudge has a great sense of humor,or irony, when he decides link placements.  Check out what he's got right under the Newsweek cover/Obama stuff in the middle column. 

Plus, it's no doubt of grave importance to some of the morons here.  You know who you are.

Posted by: Mayday at August 20, 2012 08:50 PM (F3s39)

265 If I had the money, and I don't, I'd go with the Audi A6. The A4 isn't bad either

Mechanically, they're usually the same thing as the VW Passat and Jettas.  You pay a high premium for a little better interior in the Audi's and slightly different sheet metal.

The A8 is a completely different matter.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 20, 2012 08:51 PM (WnzOT)

266 255 GM did get it really right with the Corvette, I'll give them that. Its a sweet ride. But the rest of their line is pretty awful. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2012 12:42 AM

I think that with the CAFE standards, the future Corvettes will be downsized turbo V6's. Which they'll put on sale before it's right, and by the time they get it right they'll dump it.

Unless GM goes tits up for good and Chevy is bought by the Germans

Posted by: kbdabear at August 20, 2012 08:51 PM (wwsoB)

267 Human genius scientist gets a hold of alien tech. So one of the first things he creates are very busty and happy female androids. He is also a pervert and a super genius. And he gives his grandson the keys to a super giant mecha to fight off the aliens who have occupied the Earth while pretending to be there to help mankind. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 12:45 AM (cubpP) Been there, done that. Especially the very busty part. We are big fan.

Posted by: Inscrutable Japanese Hentai Factory at August 20, 2012 08:52 PM (jaYl7)

268 Well the onion is now on the case.

Posted by: Dave S. at August 20, 2012 08:53 PM (UvR6d)

269 Mechanically, they're usually the same thing as the VW Passat and Jettas. You pay a high premium for a little better interior in the Audi's and slightly different sheet metal.

The A8 is a completely different matter.
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 21, 2012 12:51 AM

Audi does it right and builds a solid car. BMW seems to be determined to build an iPad on wheels and Mercedes loves to experiment and take risks, bless them, but it's an expensive experiment to buy

Posted by: kbdabear at August 20, 2012 08:54 PM (wwsoB)

270

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 12:45 AM (cubpP)


does sound like something I would dig, I'll have to track it down

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 08:54 PM (tw6Ar)

271 Once upon a time, I got cracked on here for outing ole "Hobo" as a concern-troll. Is there any doubt left?

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at August 20, 2012 08:56 PM (a4CUi)

272 Human genius scientist gets a hold of alien tech. So one of the first things he creates are very busty and happy female androids. He is also a pervert and a super genius. And he gives his grandson the keys to a super giant mecha to fight off the aliens who have occupied the Earth while pretending to be there to help mankind.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 12:45 AM

Knowing our government's benevolent and wise hand at guiding research and development, we'll end up with Flo-Bot

Posted by: kbdabear at August 20, 2012 08:57 PM (wwsoB)

273 Getting rid of the National Endowment for the Arts? That's lot of worthless jobs lost.

The NEA can be defunded over a period of say 5 years, and encourage private foundations to make up the difference.  If the NEA is valuable enough to people, they'll find the support in the public sector.  If its not, then it should die. 

Challenging the public to make up the difference, and allowing them time to do it,  removes a lot of the "evil" stigma that you'd otherwise be painted with.

NSF hands out a lot of bullshit grants to study shit we can't afford right now too.  Some is worthwhile, some not.  I'd like to see a more draconian review process instituted.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 20, 2012 08:59 PM (WnzOT)

274 Once upon a time, I got cracked on here for outing ole "Hobo" as a concern-troll.

Is there any doubt left?


I don't think he's a concern troll.

A psychotic asshole who's demanded the heads of Americans on pikes, sure, but not a concern troll.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 20, 2012 09:00 PM (xKC/c)

275 . BMW seems to be determined to build an iPad on wheels

Find a clapped out 2002Tii and do a ground up restoration.  Bare essentials, all fun.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 20, 2012 09:02 PM (WnzOT)

276 Posted by: IdowhatIwant at August 21, 2012 12:56 AM (a4CUi) Is he a concern troll as much as a perpetually baffled soul pretending at some kind of intellectual mystique...? Because that's how he comes off to me.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 20, 2012 09:03 PM (csi6Y)

277 Chevy is bought by the Germans Serve 'em right for bombing Pearl Harbor. They did it, not us. History book wrong.

Posted by: Inscrutable Japanese Hentai Factory at August 20, 2012 09:04 PM (jaYl7)

278 Chevy is bought by the Germans

They're into all that weird bondage S/M stuff.  Buying Chevrolet will certainly bring the pain.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 20, 2012 09:06 PM (WnzOT)

279 How about a completely misguided dumbshit? Does that work? The history of that guy speaks for itself and it's funny to me (not withstanding Ace's snark from earlier), this dipshit has fans.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at August 20, 2012 09:07 PM (a4CUi)

280 266 255
GM did get it really right with the Corvette, I'll give them that. Its a
sweet ride. But the rest of their line is pretty awful.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2012 12:42 AM

I think that with the CAFE standards, the future Corvettes will be downsized turbo V6's. Which they'll put on sale before it's right, and by the time they get it right they'll dump it.

Unless GM goes tits up for good and Chevy is bought by the Germans

Posted by: kbdabear at August 21, 2012 12:51 AM (wwsoB)


I don't think the Germans will buy a healthcare and pensions company.


Posted by: Jeremy Clarkson at August 20, 2012 09:08 PM (1grxW)

281 I know of one local Doc who words at 4 different clinics.... a day here... a day there... to take care of walk in patients...

but he's not building the relationships we got used to growing up... he is treating symptoms and cases, not patients IMO.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 21, 2012 12:06 AM (lZBBB)

That's exactly what my father, a physician who's retiring at the end of the year, says about how medicine is being practiced now. He's always taken the time to listen to patients and pick up on things they might not have thought mattered, but that kind of diagnosis is becoming a dying art in favor of ordering tests left and right. Doctors have become so squeezed for time, you're lucky if you get a full 15 minutes in an appt.


Posted by: venus velvet at August 20, 2012 09:09 PM (g94P/)

282 Posted by: IdowhatIwant at August 21, 2012 01:07 AM (a4CUi) Yeah that works for me. But the HQ is quite a forgiving crowd, seeing as lowandslow isn't completely driven off yet.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 20, 2012 09:10 PM (csi6Y)

283

Chevy is bought by the Germans

They're into all that weird bondage S/M stuff.

 

I am THERE!

Now where's my nipple clamps?

Posted by: The Fluke in leather and ballgag at August 20, 2012 09:11 PM (dAfqy)

284

So the Facebook linking of Akin and Paul Ryan is in full swing, since they co-sponsored a bill with about 100 other congressmen, but that part of the story is conveniently left out.  Fauxahontas is there too, slamming Brown and getting lots of likes in the process.

 

Akin is an anchor and needs to be cut loose, I sure hope he's gone when I get back here in the morning.

 

 

Posted by: Boots at August 20, 2012 09:12 PM (neKzn)

285 Yeah that works for me. But the HQ is quite a forgiving crowd, seeing as lowandslow isn't completely driven off yet.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2012 01:10 AM (csi6Y)


Forgiving, hell, Cat Pee still comes around here.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 20, 2012 09:12 PM (1grxW)

286 Forgiving, hell, Cat Pee still comes around here.

That's more a case of terminal lack of self-awareness, though.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 20, 2012 09:14 PM (gBJfr)

287 BREAKING: Preliminary reporting that Director Tony Scott had inoperable brain cancer were in error. It appears he was in fact suffering from late stage Hollywood Conservative Conversion Disorder, another terminal condition. He had also become disillusioned by the carbon footprint of his Prius and wanted to drive a larger more durable vehicle. ABC regrets the error.

Posted by: ABC News at August 20, 2012 09:14 PM (aMcNE)

288 I don't think he's a concern troll.


I don't either. Seen him take some bizarre positions. This is one.


Jugears can spend his whole salary on a platinum coated, diamond encrusted butt plug, if he wants.

Posted by: fluffisimo at August 20, 2012 09:15 PM (z9HTb)

289 I wonder if the Chevrolet boffins are still making Euro design cues and a superhcarged V6.  They were talking of this to aim for a new market, as one boffin said not the monied aging men who buy their current version.  When I read that I knew they were going to kiss buyers off.

Or course as I have posted the new 2015 Mustang might get a 6 or even a turbocharged 4.  Which made me run outside to hug my GT500.

So we are probably seeing the temporary death of the muscle car again.  And perhaps the true reason is CAFE. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 09:15 PM (cubpP)

290 fucking droolers in MvM

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 09:17 PM (tw6Ar)

291 Oh Baraka! 

You no be writin'

You no be callin'

Posted by: George Obama at August 20, 2012 09:18 PM (41zfH)

292 Who are you?! Who. Who. Who - who?!!

Posted by: Rep. Bob Etheridge at August 20, 2012 09:19 PM (dFN3f)

293 The A8 is a completely different matter.


My FIL drives an A6 station wagon. "Liked it's glued to the road", or something. Not sure if VW handles so well.

Posted by: fluffisimo at August 20, 2012 09:19 PM (z9HTb)

294 And now for something completely different.  Is your Schwartz happy to see Leia in her metal bikini?  Then you might need this product.

http://www.ufunk.net/videos/jedi-condoms/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 09:20 PM (cubpP)

295 hubby has A8. its sweet

Posted by: thunderb at August 20, 2012 09:21 PM (Dnbau)

296 289 I wonder if the Chevrolet boffins are still making Euro design cues and a superhcarged V6. They were talking of this to aim for a new market, as one boffin said not the monied aging men who buy their current version. When I read that I knew they were going to kiss buyers off.

Or course as I have posted the new 2015 Mustang might get a 6 or even a turbocharged 4. Which made me run outside to hug my GT500.

So we are probably seeing the temporary death of the muscle car again. And perhaps the true reason is CAFE.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 01:15 AM (cubpP)


This is the 70's all over again. Government mandating that the car makers make little death boxes for fuel efficiency, American public says no thanks, government pushes harder to make sure we buy them. We are forced to buy them, highway fatalities jump, cars then get bigger, fatalities drop.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 20, 2012 09:22 PM (1grxW)

297 Seems like its been an angry ONT, who wants to sit on the couch and get spoon fed bullshit?

Posted by: Dr Phil at August 20, 2012 09:23 PM (/YJYi)

298 It isn't just cars getting it in the ass.  Harleys have been leaving the factory for years burning barely enough gas to keep them running. The ones that had carburetors were jetted way, way too frigging lean because of bullshit EPA crap. The fuel injected ones are almost as bad.

Posted by: Berserker at August 20, 2012 09:23 PM (FMbng)

299 Government "worker" pensions are an absurdity and should be abolished on every level. Along with all "benefits".


When you stop working, you stop being paid, period, end of story, FYNQ.

Posted by: cm9000 at August 20, 2012 09:24 PM (lzvtR)

300 eman, the Dude, holygoat,

Kenichi Sonoda will be found fapping in his bunk .... all she is missing is neko ears.


I admit I had to look up Kenichi Sonada. Then I lol'd. ^_^

Posted by: holygoat at August 20, 2012 09:24 PM (auGuV)

301 Seems like its been an angry ONT, who wants to sit on the couch and get spoon fed bullshit?


I'll sit where I want, you walrus-lookin' mother fucker.

Posted by: fluffy gets angry and lazy at August 20, 2012 09:26 PM (z9HTb)

302 Not sure if VW handles so well.

The VW handle well.  For far less than the price delta between the VW and an Audi, you can make the VW handle like a F1 car with aftermarket parts.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 20, 2012 09:26 PM (WnzOT)

303 ""I'll sit where I want, you walrus-lookin' mother fucker.""


Ok that made me laugh. lol

Posted by: Berserker at August 20, 2012 09:27 PM (FMbng)

304 Mr. D'Souza has been a bit of a clueless dick in the past, yes. But this "George Obama" thing is all kinds of awesome. And apparently he's doing a documentary on the guy, or something like that. That puts me in a forgiving mood.

Posted by: Splunge at August 20, 2012 11:14 PM (2IW5Q)

Apparently
you are fucking clueless!  Do you not know about D'Souza's movie?

Fuck you and your "forgiveness"!

What have YOU done, skippy, other than post limp-wristed criticisms???

Posted by: Jim Sonweed at August 20, 2012 09:27 PM (41zfH)

305 Serve 'em right for bombing Pearl Harbor. They did it, not us.

History book wrong.

Posted by: Inscrutable Japanese Hentai Factory at August 21, 2012 01:04 AM (jaYl7)

 

 

Chevy bombed Pearl Harbor? I be damned.  Fooken Unions.

Posted by: robtr at August 20, 2012 09:27 PM (MtwBb)

306 holygoat, so what made you lol so much?

Since Sonoda sensei is one of the early gun otaku who then proceeded to express his love of German weapons by having girls tote them around.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 09:28 PM (cubpP)

307 BTH isn't a concern troll, just eccentric.

Posted by: chemjeff at August 20, 2012 09:30 PM (d/5qf)

308 If some enterprising congressman inserts a provision into a bill that puts CAFE standards on limos, you'll see CAFE gone the next day

If only carbon fiber was price competitive with steel, then it would be a lot easier to meet the standards

Posted by: kbdabear at August 20, 2012 09:30 PM (wwsoB)

309 The VW handle well. For far less than the price delta between the VW and an Audi, you can make the VW handle like a F1 car with aftermarket parts.


I can see my 73 yr old FIL tooling around in a GTI with curb feelers and neon lights in the under carriage :--)

Posted by: fluffy at August 20, 2012 09:32 PM (z9HTb)

310 Chevy bombed Pearl Harbor? I be damned. Fooken Unions. Posted by: robtr at August 21, 2012 01:27 AM

Ach! Eine Cobalt !!!

Posted by: Wolfgang Fluke at August 20, 2012 09:34 PM (wwsoB)

311 Another area where vehicles could get lighter is the electrical/electronic demands.

There are two examples in my GT500 I never use.  Satellite radio, I have a 6 CD changer than can handle mp3.  Why should I listen to Sirius on the off chance I will hear a song I like and while hoping the trees don't block the signal.  Next one is just a WTF were they thinking.  I have foot well and cup holder mood lighting that I can change from blue to white to amber and so on.  I find it distracting so turn it off.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 09:36 PM (cubpP)

312 308 If some enterprising congressman inserts a provision into a bill that puts CAFE standards on limos, you'll see CAFE gone the next day

If only carbon fiber was price competitive with steel, then it would be a lot easier to meet the standards

Posted by: kbdabear at August 21, 2012 01:30 AM (wwsoB)


You actually expect for our leaders to ride around in a sedan and not a limo? You my friend are a h8er.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 20, 2012 09:36 PM (1grxW)

313 Damn Subaru Hipster Ballooner commercial again!

I really wish the wind had taken him and his wife into a minefield

Posted by: kbdabear at August 20, 2012 09:36 PM (wwsoB)

314 Curb feelers, I haven't heard that term in frigging years. Do they even still make them? I never knew anybody that ever used them but I did always see them on cars driven by old fogies. I almost thought it was a retirement thing. Here's your pension, AARP card, and your curb feelers.

Posted by: Berserker at August 20, 2012 09:36 PM (FMbng)

315 Minefield?  Why not some power lines?  Balloon-a-q anyone?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 09:37 PM (cubpP)

316 ""You actually expect for our leaders to ride around in a sedan and not a limo? "


If it was up to me the cockholsters would be traveling by fucking rickshaw.

Posted by: Berserker at August 20, 2012 09:39 PM (FMbng)

317 This trash isn't going to drag itself to the curb. I may be back to inflict more stupid shit on you all.

Posted by: flufffy at August 20, 2012 09:39 PM (z9HTb)

318 311 Another area where vehicles could get lighter is the electrical/electronic demands.

There are two examples in my GT500 I never use. Satellite radio, I have a 6 CD changer than can handle mp3. Why should I listen to Sirius on the off chance I will hear a song I like and while hoping the trees don't block the signal. Next one is just a WTF were they thinking. I have foot well and cup holder mood lighting that I can change from blue to white to amber and so on. I find it distracting so turn it off.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 01:36 AM (cubpP)


I've got Satellite radio but not really for the music. The NFL, NHL and NASCAR have channels so I get all my sports news on it since my local media doesn't cover those sports for shit. But a 6 disk CD changer that can play mp3s is a bit of an overkill.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 20, 2012 09:39 PM (1grxW)

319 306 holygoat, so what made you lol so much?

Since Sonoda sensei is one of the early gun otaku who then proceeded to express his love of German weapons by having girls tote them around.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 01:28 AM (cubpP)


Your comment about Kenichi Sonoda fapping in his bunk to the video of the loli-maid firing the .50 was funnier after I learned who he was.

Posted by: holygoat at August 20, 2012 09:39 PM (auGuV)

320

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 01:36 AM (cubpP)


I use my XM

never had problems with it, and that is including going up and down the smokey moutains

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 09:39 PM (tw6Ar)

321 I can't wait until Obama is in charge of MY healthcare... surely he cares.... just as George Obama

Posted by: skinnydipinacid at August 20, 2012 09:40 PM (zEPqG)

322 There are two examples in my GT500 I never use. Satellite radio, I have a 6 CD changer than can handle mp3. Why should I listen to Sirius on the off chance I will hear a song I like and while hoping the trees don't block the signal. Next one is just a WTF were they thinking. I have foot well and cup holder mood lighting that I can change from blue to white to amber and so on. I find it distracting so turn it off.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 01:36 AM

You'll appreciate that Sirius radio if the Fairness Doctrine makes its return

Safety features also resulted in heavier cars, but I think that design innovations could cut the weight down. Actually, they know how to design it, they just don't know how to do it in cost effective manner



Posted by: kbdabear at August 20, 2012 09:41 PM (wwsoB)

323 50 That's one small Japanese soldier behind the maid. Posted by: CDR M at August 20, 2012 10:50 PM

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But he's got the guy in the boat covered.

Posted by: irright at August 20, 2012 09:42 PM (5UU+7)

324 It might be antenna location and where I live.  On the GT500 its a button antenna on the trunk.  And I live in an area thick with pine trees.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 09:42 PM (cubpP)

325 If it was up to me the cockholsters would be traveling by fucking rickshaw.

Posted by: Berserker at August 21, 2012 01:39 AM (FMbng)


That would create more jobs than Obama's "shovel ready" jobs bills did.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 20, 2012 09:42 PM (1grxW)

326 If it was up to me the cockholsters would be traveling by fucking rickshaw.

Posted by: Berserker at August 21, 2012 01:39 AM (FMbng)

 

 

Well maybe but they would have us pulling it.

Posted by: robtr at August 20, 2012 09:42 PM (MtwBb)

327 I hope the hobo never needs a fireman to run into a burning building to save him or a family member. They obviously do nothing to earn their shit pay.

Posted by: Adam at August 20, 2012 09:44 PM (/YJYi)

328 I have seen the wiring harnesses for modern cars and it boggles me.  Such a thick nest of heavy wiring, even for the loom that goes into a door.  In fact just the portion that goes into a modern door probably outweighs the entire wiring harness for a 1970 Ford Torino.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 09:45 PM (cubpP)

329 Quoting Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow, "If he works for the state, he is our servant. So the money he earns is not his own; it's ours. It's spending money. It's an allowance."

First of all, having a longbow would at least make me listen to you, but having a CHARTREUSE longbow is kinda ghey, so unless you are a woman, you have even less credibility than someone who is lord of the crossbow.

Second, if I had a brother in those kind of circumstances, I'd help in any way I could, and our income is a combined $65k per year.  (at least until October, when I get laid off)

No, Maetenloch is right..."If I were a president worth millions, I think I could at least get my African extended family out of shanties, some basic medical care, a TV and possibly a basic cable package."

Simple stuff, really, especially done in a discount place like Kenya.

Obama doesn't give a rip about his brother, and you know it.


Posted by: Mr_Write at August 20, 2012 09:45 PM (CLkAH)

330

Posted by: Adam at August 21, 2012 01:44 AM (/YJYi)


or me who was a EMT at a public hospital

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 09:46 PM (tw6Ar)

331 holygoat, well glad I made you LOL then.  So buying up his manga?  Gunsmith Cats or Cannon God Exaxxion?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 09:47 PM (cubpP)

332 curb feelers.

Are those anything like boob feelers?  'Cause I've got a pair of those.

Posted by: chemjeff at August 20, 2012 09:47 PM (d/5qf)

333 When Joe Biden joined AARP, they gave him a sippy cup. He was very happy.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 09:49 PM (cubpP)

334 330 I sent George Obama a case of peanut butter.

Posted by: Toby the Beagle at August 21, 2012 01:46 AM (Ks4nX)


If not the thread winner, certainly runner-up.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 20, 2012 09:49 PM (xKC/c)

335 This is the 70's all over again. Government mandating that the car makers make little death boxes for fuel efficiency, American public says no thanks, government pushes harder to make sure we buy them. We are forced to buy them, highway fatalities jump, cars then get bigger, fatalities drop.
Posted by: MrCaniac at August 21, 2012 01:22 AM

It was thought that we'd never see powerful cars again, then when the car companies found out that people wanted them and gas didn't go to 5 bucks a gallon, they found out that electronic fuel injection did wonders.

Lee Ioccoca thought that V8's and RWD were gone for good, and blessed us with the K-Car. If not for the minivan, there wouldn't have been a Chrysler to bail out again in 2008.

Posted by: kbdabear at August 20, 2012 09:50 PM (wwsoB)

336 ""I have seen the wiring harnesses for modern cars and it boggles me. Such a thick nest of heavy wiring, even for the loom that goes into a door. In fact just the portion that goes into a modern door probably outweighs the entire wiring harness for a 1970 Ford Torino.""


Car wiring has become a nightmare, because there are 8 frigging billion things that need power. There is probably more wiring just for the sensors alone than there would be in that whole 1970 Torino.

Posted by: Berserker at August 20, 2012 09:50 PM (FMbng)

337 Seems like its been an angry ONT, who wants to sit on the couch and get spoon fed bullshit? Posted by: Dr Phil at August 21, 2012 01:23 AM (/YJYi) Meh... why not...

Posted by: Kyle Broflovski, Clinically Depressed Fecalphiliac at August 20, 2012 09:50 PM (sZTYJ)

338 Quoting Toby the Beagle: "I sent George Obama a case of peanut butter."

That's more than multimillionaire Obama ever did for George.

Posted by: Mr_Write at August 20, 2012 09:51 PM (CLkAH)

339 holygoat, well glad I made you LOL then. So buying up his manga? Gunsmith Cats or Cannon God Exaxxion? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 01:47 AM (cubpP) Gunsmith Cats was fully translated by Darkhorse. Cannon God Exaxxion only got through 5 of 7 volumes (and is out of print), so you'd have to get the scanlations.

Posted by: ザ 政治的 帽子 at August 20, 2012 09:53 PM (sZTYJ)

340 eman, the Dude, holygoat, Kenichi Sonoda will be found fapping in his bunk .... all she is missing is neko ears. I admit I had to look up Kenichi Sonada. Then I lol'd. ^_^ Posted by: holygoat at August 21, 2012 01:24 AM (auGuV) http://tinyurl.com/962dta4

Posted by: ザ 政治的 帽子 at August 20, 2012 09:53 PM (sZTYJ)

341 I hope the hobo never needs a fireman to run into a burning building to save him or a family member. They obviously do nothing to earn their shit pay.

Posted by: Adam at August 21, 2012 01:44 AM (/YJYi)

 

 

Yeah that's a problem we have, we all want somebody to fight our wars, put out our fires, teach our kids, raise the kids we don't want aborted...just not us, or some of us.

 

 

If you really want smaller, less expensive, non professional government there is an easy solution. Go spend for years in the Military or the DMV for shit pay and then start your career.  Otherwise we have the government we want.

Posted by: robtr at August 20, 2012 09:53 PM (MtwBb)

342 Good evening.

Ken Sonoda's Gunsmith Cats is the official manga of the Moron Nation.

It's got hot chicks.

It's got guns.

It's got fast cars.

It's got hot chicks firing guns from their fast cars.

It's got big tits and chicks making out with each other.

I highly recommend Gunsmith Cats to all the Morons looking for some fun reading material.

Four omnibus editions and five volumes of the follow up "Burst" available from Dark Horse Comics.

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 20, 2012 09:57 PM (4ixH5)

343 I have to laugh at the mofo's driving those smart cars. I always laugh knowing that if they ever get in an accident they are already driving their fucking urn.

Posted by: Berserker at August 20, 2012 09:57 PM (FMbng)

344 I see that The Shat has returned to the Priceline commercials

I really wanted to see Leonard Nimoy go searching for him, find his body, and return his katra to him

Posted by: kbdabear at August 20, 2012 09:58 PM (wwsoB)

345

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 21, 2012 01:57 AM (4ixH5)


wish more was done with Bean though the way they whored Minny was always fun.



I have to laugh at the mofo's driving those smart cars. I always laugh knowing that if they ever get in an accident they are already driving their fucking urn.

Posted by: Berserker at August 21, 2012 01:57 AM (FMbng)


they're actually fun to drive on ice

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 09:58 PM (tw6Ar)

346 There's also a three part "OVA" (or straight to video series) sold on DVD as Gunsmith Cats: Bulletproof that has, unfortunately, since fallen out of print.

I have the VHS tapes.

Rockin' stuff.

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 20, 2012 09:59 PM (4ixH5)

347 Dude, yeah, Bean Bandit was the shit.

There was also a Bean Bandit anime that pre-dates GSC and is non-continuity.  Marvel at the white, blonde and totally not Pakistani Rally Vincent!

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 20, 2012 10:01 PM (4ixH5)

348 So no firemen, cops, emt's, etc. That makes sense. And to the whole other people fighting our wars thing, fuck you asshole I spent 18 months trying to get a combat arms job in the military, it's not my fault the gov't says my vision is to poor.

Posted by: Adam at August 20, 2012 10:01 PM (/YJYi)

349 There was also a Bean Bandit anime that pre-dates GSC and is non-continuity. Marvel at the white, blonde and totally not Pakistani Rally Vincent!

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 21, 2012 02:01 AM (4ixH5)


which really makes you like the McQueen mother fucker

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 10:02 PM (tw6Ar)

350 Yeah that's a problem we have, we all want somebody to fight our wars, put out our fires, teach our kids, raise the kids we don't want aborted...just not us, or some of us.


If you really want smaller, less expensive, non professional government there is an easy solution. Go spend for years in the Military or the DMV for shit pay and then start your career. Otherwise we have the government we want.

Posted by: robtr at August 21, 2012 01:53 AM (MtwBb)


I have no idea what you are babbling about. I don't need a government to do anything for me.

Posted by: cm9000 at August 20, 2012 10:02 PM (lzvtR)

351 Minnie May Hopkins never whores out.  So she is 14 and has the hots for Ken, the 30-something Yakuza bomb maker that she eventually marries...

This is why Sonoda is also a dirty old man manga artist.  His anime portfolio includes: Wanna-Bes [ female pro wrestling meets a strength serum with side effects], Gall Force [all female race battle in space against a bio-mechanical race], Bubblegum Crisis [Blade Runner type universe.  All female mercenary unit in form fitting HardSuits], and Gunsmith Cats.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 10:04 PM (cubpP)

352 I'll be honest, I gave Bubblegum Crisis a shot but didn't get far.

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 20, 2012 10:06 PM (4ixH5)

353 There was also a Bean Bandit anime that pre-dates GSC and is non-continuity. Marvel at the white, blonde and totally not Pakistani Rally Vincent! Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 21, 2012 02:01 AM (4ixH5) WHAT? we talking about Gunsmith Cats here? I totally missed it. Man, those OVAs are the bomb. Except for Minnie being a loli dream, but it's easy to forget about in the animated version anyway...

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 20, 2012 10:07 PM (csi6Y)

354 Riding Bean is pretty wicked.  Just tune out the third rate American musicians Sonoda hired.

The drawing that green lighted Gunsmith Cats can be found in the Sonoda artbook 'On'  on pg 94.  The proto-Rally in that image is still blond and the Minnie May prototype is just ugh.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 10:07 PM (cubpP)

355 I'll be honest, I gave Bubblegum Crisis a shot but didn't get far.

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 21, 2012 02:06 AM (4ixH5)


really? hmm really loved that series. I guess you can check out 2040 which is more modern and fleshes out the OAVs

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 10:07 PM (tw6Ar)

356 Which Bubblegum Crisis?  The original 8 episode OVA series or the series 2040 where they stole the character designs from El-Hazard?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 10:09 PM (cubpP)

357 Here we go!

Riding Bean

http://tinyurl.com/8p2xvjk

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 20, 2012 10:09 PM (4ixH5)

358 So no firemen, cops, emt's, etc. That makes sense. And to the whole other people fighting our wars thing, fuck you asshole I spent 18 months trying to get a combat arms job in the military, it's not my fault the gov't says my vision is to poor.

Posted by: Adam at August 21, 2012 02:01 AM (/YJYi)

 

 

Well good for you, I spent 13 months fighting one. That wasn't my point though. When I grew up we didn't have EMT's , no where in America,  where I grew up we had a volunteer fire department who didn't show up if someone was sick or at a traffic accident.  My point is that if we want professionals no matter what government service they are doing and we decide we don't want to do it we are going to have to pay them.

Posted by: robtr at August 20, 2012 10:09 PM (MtwBb)

359 And speak of the debil...

http://tinyurl.com/8h9725p

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 20, 2012 10:11 PM (4ixH5)

360 yeah, 2040 is very much worth watching (though I still prefer OG and Crash)

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 10:13 PM (tw6Ar)

361 Ugh, burning sun time  2040.  I pretend it never exists along with Bubblegum Crash.  2040 kept the original HardSuit designs and then chucked Sonoda's character designs.  Then they tried for an edgier soundtrack which came off sounding meh.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 10:13 PM (cubpP)

362 had no problem with the character designs, just standard updating. Filled what I wanted with more BGC story though

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 10:17 PM (tw6Ar)

363 Are you drunk, because I seriously don't understand what you are saying. My original point was that hobo was saying no one in government service earns the money they make and what an asinine comment that was. I realize taxes pay for those services.

Posted by: Adam at August 20, 2012 10:17 PM (/YJYi)

364 okay time for bed good night all
hopefully the week will get better

Posted by: chemjeff at August 20, 2012 10:20 PM (d/5qf)

365 SQUEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*Pulls himself together*

Patlabor movie special editions on sale cheap cheap cheap cheap!!!!!

I have them on VHS from Manga Entertainment.  Never did get them on divvy dee.

LOVED the Patlabor movies!

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 20, 2012 10:22 PM (4ixH5)

366 Good night, Jefe!

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 20, 2012 10:22 PM (4ixH5)

367 The Dude, I guess its a matter of taste.

The stories from the original OVAs were more varied and interesting.  The characterizations popped out more for me.  Plus had linkage to Madox-01 Metal Skin Panic.  Of course the obvious tie-in to Blade Runner [Priss and the Replicants] was cool.  Though the more obscure American link with Streets of Fire and Konya Wa Hurricane is a plus.

Crash and 2040 also occurred after the AIC and Artmic split.  Which meant they had to change the universe around enough to avoid legal problems with Crash.  In 2040 it was instant dislike for the El-Hazard character designs while Priss and Linna came off as bland characters.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 10:25 PM (cubpP)

368 Are you drunk, because I seriously don't understand what you are saying. My original point was that hobo was saying no one in government service earns the money they make and what an asinine comment that was. I realize taxes pay for those services.

Posted by: Adam at August 21, 2012 02:17 AM (/YJYi)

 

 

Heh, well at least I moved up from asshole to drunk asshole. If you would have stopped to read what I said I was agreeing with you. I think I did in my second response as well.  My alternate point was that very few of us want to do what we want done and we don't really want to pay for it either.

 

 

So I offered a solution to that bit of hypocrisy on our part. Spend 4 years doing some of that stuff you want but don't really want to pay for.  Sorry you missed it.

Posted by: robtr at August 20, 2012 10:26 PM (MtwBb)

369

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 21, 2012 02:22 AM (4ixH5)


don't buy the dvds, they don't look that great. Buy the blu-rays as they are a substantial upgrade

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 10:26 PM (tw6Ar)

370 Dude, yeah, Bean Bandit was the shit. There was also a Bean Bandit anime that pre-dates GSC and is non-continuity. Marvel at the white, blonde and totally not Pakistani Rally Vincent! Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 21, 2012 02:01 AM (4ixH5) I thought her father was a U.K. citizen of Indian ancestry, and her mother was white. Being bi-racial, she is hot, good with guns and Cobra cars. Rally is the anti-SCoaMF.

Posted by: ザ 政治的 帽子 at August 20, 2012 10:27 PM (sZTYJ)

371 Sonoda decided to revise Rally Vincent.  In Riding Bean she is Bean's associate.  She minds the bugs they have on the police plus scopes out job opportunities.  She is still a crack shot.  She just happens to be blond, blue-eyed and a bit bouncy up top.

Riding Bean for the 1980s had a kinda risque opening.  Robbers in a mall dragging a totally naked woman around as hostage.  Then there was Semmerling, Sonoda named her after a small automatic.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 10:30 PM (cubpP)

372 Whoops my bad, the Riding Bean Rally has brown eyes.  And she is a stylish dresser as your first introduction to her in the anime shows.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 10:32 PM (cubpP)

373
World ends:

Jolted by the possibility of a syphilis outbreak among its ranks, a Los Angeles-based trade group that represents the adult film industry announced a nationwide moratorium on X-rated productions while more than 1,000 porn performers are tested.

The Free Speech Coalition issued the call on its website after reporting that one performer tested positive for syphilis, a sexually transmitted disease, and had begun notifying sexual partners of that information.

The moratorium was announced Saturday, a day after Los Angeles County's Public Health Department said it was investigating a cluster of possible syphilis cases within the porn industry. The agency said it had received reports of at least five cases involving adult performers within a week.

LA Times

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2012 10:33 PM (kdS6q)

374 As of 2:30am, there is no mention of the Minn blow job story on CNN. The Akin story is everywhere. But there's no media bias. No sir.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at August 20, 2012 10:33 PM (YOZSv)

375 cool, my copy of Motorway finally shipped. It got trashed but it's a new Milkeyway film and I'll buy those no matter what

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 10:33 PM (tw6Ar)

376 I'll be honest, I gave Bubblegum Crisis a shot but didn't get far. Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 21, 2012 02:06 AM (4ixH5) The original Bubblegum Crisis was one of the gateway drugs into anime for me (the others being Urusei Yatsura, Robotech, and Vampire Hunter D). The character designs were great, and you can't beat the detail of the backgrounds of old '80's cell animation. It was also made before Japan's big crash, so it still had that great "think big" cyberpunk aesthetic. I also loved the title: A crisis that grew like a bubblegum bubble, getting bigger as its skin get thinner and grow weaker, until *POP* is explodes in your face -- reminds me of the debt crises. I never saw Crash. The 2040 series had a fully fleshed out storyline, but I like to think of it as a completely separate thing. The original Bubblegum Crisis also had a great soundtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOYZhUlISt8

Posted by: ザ 政治的 帽子 at August 20, 2012 10:33 PM (sZTYJ)

377 don't buy the dvds, they don't look that great. Buy the blu-rays as they are a substantial upgrade

Posted by: The Dude at August 21, 2012 02:26 AM (tw6Ar)


The Manga DVDs or the Bandai Visual DVDs?


Manga...ugh!  A few years ago I bought some DVD editions of Ghost in the Shell and Ninja Scroll.  Awful!  It was like they just took any random VHS copy and copied it to DVD.

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 20, 2012 10:35 PM (4ixH5)

378 Apologies, it didn't come across that way to me at all.

Posted by: Adam at August 20, 2012 10:36 PM (/YJYi)

379 As of 2:30am, there is no mention of the Minn blow job story on CNN. The Akin story is everywhere. But there's no media bias. No sir.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at August 21, 2012 02:33 AM (YOZSv)


the Akin thing is a better story. Politicians getting blowjobs has been done before, politician saying stupid shit about rape is always news

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 10:36 PM (tw6Ar)

380 Just don't watch the live performance of Kinuko Oomori, Priss, singing Konya Wa Hurricane.  I think she beat Nirvana to grunge in that video.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 10:38 PM (cubpP)

381 I thought porn actors in CA had to wrap it up now for shooting... uh filming.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik, extremely extreme radical extremist at August 20, 2012 10:40 PM (YOZSv)

382 The Manga DVDs or the Bandai Visual DVDs?
Manga...ugh! A few years ago I bought some DVD editions of Ghost in the Shell and Ninja Scroll. Awful! It was like they just took any random VHS copy and copied it to DVD.
---------------
Which is why I call them Mangle Entertainment.  If given a chance they will mess something up.  Their UK branch relabeled Vampire Princess Miyu as Miyu: Queen of the Blood Suckers.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 10:40 PM (cubpP)

383 I thought porn actors in CA had to wrap it up now for shooting... uh filming. Posted by: Ms Choksondik, extremely extreme radical extremist at August 21, 2012 02:40 AM (YOZSv) That is a local L. A. City ordinance.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 20, 2012 10:41 PM (sZTYJ)

384 Sonoda also did the original characters for the Playstation game Suchi Pai. 
http://tinyurl.com/9zazxoq

The original version you played mahjong tile game to get pieces so at the end you get to see a naked anime girl.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 10:44 PM (cubpP)

385 That is a local L. A. City ordinance. Posted by: The Political Hat at August 21, 2012 02:41 AM (sZTYJ) Thanks. I can see why they banned it in LA. It's not like those movies make money or anything.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik, extremely extreme radical extremist at August 20, 2012 10:44 PM (YOZSv)

386 Les Vampires looks really damn good on blu-ray, props to Kino for doing what they do

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 10:45 PM (tw6Ar)

387 Thanks. I can see why they banned it in LA. It's not like those movies make money or anything.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik, extremely extreme radical extremist at August 21, 2012 02:44 AM (YOZSv)


porn isn't filmed in LA anyways, it's all San Fernando

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 10:47 PM (tw6Ar)

388 Hmmm, it does look interesting Les Vampires.  Only 3 left on Amazon but DVD Planet is selling it for $25.03

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 10:51 PM (cubpP)

389 Hmmm, it does look interesting Les Vampires. Only 3 left on Amazon but DVD Planet is selling it for $25.03

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 02:51 AM (cubpP)


if you dig crime stories and haven't watched it, it's essential viewing as long as you keep in mind on when it was made as it can feel like an old hat due to newer movies and tv (it's been ripped off a shit ton since it came out). And watch it as a tv series instead of one long viewing as it gets tiring

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 10:55 PM (tw6Ar)

390 I'd put BTH in the "heart inclined toward right place, choice of words poor, illustrations badly mistaken" category.



Living in California, I am well aware that government can be a bloated, corrupt, collection of empires consisting of smallminded bureaucrats intending to micromanage the affairs of anyone unfortunate enough to not work for the State. Just to be clear, there are some 1200 state agencies staffed by the nephews and supporters of other government employees who -- among other things -- do the same work as the EPA at an even more ridiculous level (CalEPA); ensure that nobody can modify anything within sight of a beach without buying off the government somehow, even if the beach is inaccessible (California Coastal Commission); or achieves absolutely nothing because they haven't even bothered to meet for 3-1/2 years while drawing pay.



The problem that you get when speaking about such a government is separating the wheat from the chaff. Easily 2/3 of Sacramento is useless moneywasting corrupt nepotists, but blanket statements like "they should all lose their jobs, their pensions, and their prospects for a future" are belied by the other 1/3 that provides essential government services -- and which is, by and large (and especially as compared to the parasites) underpaid.



Much of this confusion is by design. Statists are expert at blending 90% crap and 10% chocolate and asking "now, will you eat it?" (see "comprehensive XXX reform", where XXX is immigration, healthcare, patent, copyright, privacy, financial, telecom, or whatever). Blanket statements about the government as a whole tend to be based on a perception of some small part of it.



So I can see BTH's point when he's hatin' on government, and I can see his critic's point when they support the government that helps us out.....but I also see that this looks very different from different angles.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 20, 2012 10:55 PM (kaalw)

391 #388

Yeah but that's just a burb of San Angeles.

Posted by: epobirs at August 20, 2012 10:56 PM (kcfmt)

392 oh and I would say that Fantomas is a better watch as it jells better IMO

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 10:56 PM (tw6Ar)

393 "I really wanted to see Leonard Nimoy go searching for him, find his body, and return his katra to him"

That woulda been cool, and besides, Spock owes him one.  The needs of the one and all that...

Posted by: Mr_Write at August 20, 2012 10:57 PM (CLkAH)

394 Yeah but that's just a burb of San Angeles.

Posted by: epobirs at August 21, 2012 02:56 AM (kcfmt)


thought it was out of LA's reach of the law though

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 10:57 PM (tw6Ar)

395 Well the premise does sound interesting.  A true criminal cabal wanting to conquer a whole city.

I have Kino's final final restoration of Metropolis.  So am used to being jarred by connections from that movie.  Like it recently came to me, in some ways Blade Runner and Bubblegum Crisis are nods to Metropolis because of Rotwang transforms his mechanical bride Hel into the semblance of a living woman - Maria.  And like those later replicants, her programming is a bit buggy.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 10:59 PM (cubpP)

396 It's part of LA County and the County tends to follow the city's lead on dumb policy.

Posted by: epobirs at August 20, 2012 10:59 PM (kcfmt)

397 It's part of LA County and the County tends to follow the city's lead on dumb policy.

Posted by: epobirs at August 21, 2012 02:59 AM (kcfmt)


I stand corrected then



new hole in one of my favorite shirts looks like some hair band would have worn in the 80's

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 11:02 PM (tw6Ar)

398 porn isn't filmed in LA anyways, it's all San Fernando Posted by: The Dude at August 21, 2012 02:47 AM (tw6Ar) The Valley (i.e. San Fernando Valley) is part of the city of L.A. The City annexed it quite forcibly as part of their scheme to steal all the water from the Owens Valley (the aqueduct ended in the San Fernando Valley, so they city had to annex the valley). The Owens Valley War is an interesting bit of California history. It really was a shooting war, and the water L. A. stole ended up drying out the Owens lake. That was way back when the city could actually pull of schemes like that, build something of value, and do it while making money. L. A. hasn't done anything of profit since the '84 Olympics. Fun stuff...

Posted by: The Political Hat, who Escaped from L. A. at August 20, 2012 11:02 PM (sZTYJ)

399 hmm only $15 for Tokyo Jungle when it comes out next month

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 11:05 PM (tw6Ar)

400 Just read the Jonathan Chait article on the side bar and I just have to say. Holy shit what happened to him, I was expecting a liberal screed filled with hatred and unfeigned bias. The article is actually really good and pretty much supports all of the criticisms Conservatives have made against Hollywood.

Posted by: Drew in MO at August 20, 2012 11:07 PM (MkgGw)

401 Most of the SFV lies within the city limits of LA, but is referred to by the names of postal districts -- http://larrywinfield.com/Map_LA_City.gif

Posted by: cthulhu at August 20, 2012 11:11 PM (kaalw)

402 So I can see BTH's point when he's hatin' on government, and I can see his critic's point when they support the government that helps us out.....but I also see that this looks very different from different angles.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 21, 2012 02:55 AM (kaalw)


===


but there is a way to sort it all out.  analyze the assumptions and react where the assumptions fail to hold true.

Posted by: jc at August 20, 2012 11:13 PM (ufJKx)

403 Trivia question: What US city is entirely surrounded by another city?

Posted by: epobirs at August 20, 2012 11:15 PM (kcfmt)

404 Washington DC?

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 11:16 PM (tw6Ar)

405 A guy named Glen Thrush has a new e-book out called Obama's Last Stand.

Apparently Pelosi had a meeting with Obama about the DoD sequestration that is still about to fall.  This was back in mid-2012.  She was worried about all the unhappy contractors not giving money apparently.

"Obama told the former speaker what he had been saying for months – that he wasn’t budging on the defense cuts. Doing so would surrender his only leverage in forcing House Republicans to accept the expiration of tax cuts for the wealthy – the only weapon he had against their efforts ‘to delegitimize me,’ as he put it. Moreover, he bluntly called on Hill Democrats to reorient their priorities – from them to him. ‘Look, guys,’ he told Pelosi, Harry Reid, and several other congressional leaders, according to a person briefed in detail on the interaction. ‘I plan on winning this race. If I don’t win, then anything we say now doesn’t matter. I plan on winning this race. So let’s figure out how to win this race.’"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 20, 2012 11:17 PM (cubpP)

406 404

Boston?

Posted by: derit at August 20, 2012 11:17 PM (ruiF1)

407 Epo, Hamtramack and Highland Park are both inside Detroit.

Posted by: Jerry at August 20, 2012 11:19 PM (4SKYj)

408 403 So I can see BTH's point when he's hatin' on
government, and I can see his critic's point when they support the
government that helps us out.....but I also see that this looks very
different from different angles.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 21, 2012 02:55 AM (kaalw)


Well there's hatin' on government and then there's claiming that government employees do not actually own their own earnings and can't spend their pay any way they like.

That's koo-koo-bananas shit.

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 20, 2012 11:20 PM (xROTy)

409 404 Trivia question: What US city is entirely surrounded by another city?

Posted by: epobirs at August 21, 2012 03:15 AM (kcfmt)



There are probably several, but Signal Hill is surrounded by Long Beach in California.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 20, 2012 11:20 PM (kaalw)

410 Trivia question: What US city is entirely surrounded by another city? Posted by: epobirs at August 21, 2012 03:15 AM (kcfmt) The city of San Fernando is completely surrounded by the city of L. A.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 20, 2012 11:21 PM (sZTYJ)

411 Epo, what was your answer?

Posted by: Jerry at August 20, 2012 11:22 PM (4SKYj)

412

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 21, 2012 03:20 AM (xROTy)


the return of scrips

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 11:22 PM (tw6Ar)

413 That's koo-koo-bananas shit.


Posted by: Mætenloch at August 21, 2012 03:20 AM (xROTy)


It *is* pretty close to amputating toes to cure earaches. But it doesn't mean that earaches shouldn't be treated.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 20, 2012 11:23 PM (kaalw)

414 Not Boston, which has more than one city on its perimeter. Stupid me! Stupid me!

Posted by: derit at August 20, 2012 11:24 PM (ruiF1)

415 Vatican City

Posted by: Disgruntled Lurker at August 20, 2012 11:25 PM (UPoZk)

416 The Ghostbusters picture sort of reminded me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QFvNhsWMU0c Enjoy. Off to bed.

Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2012 11:25 PM (sdi6R)

417 the return of scrips

Posted by: The Dude at August 21, 2012 03:22 AM (tw6Ar)



Yep. Well identified!



And while I could care less what political parasites receive, if only it makes less of them -- scrips and company stores would likely make the patronage system worse and tighter.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 20, 2012 11:26 PM (kaalw)

418 Disgruntled Lurker, we're afflicted with teh same disability!

Posted by: derit at August 20, 2012 11:28 PM (ruiF1)

419 Disregard... missed the US part... damned Ardbeg

Posted by: Disgruntled Lurker at August 20, 2012 11:28 PM (UPoZk)

420 It isn't obvious by maps because the political controls are so complex but Beverly Hills was long considered to be the only place that had that status.

It used to turn up in books of useless knowledge a lot, like the Bathroom Reader series. I owned the domain bathroombooks.com for several years but never developed the book club idea I had.

Posted by: epobirs at August 20, 2012 11:28 PM (kcfmt)

421 419 Disgruntled Lurker, we're afflicted with teh same disability!

Posted by: derit at August 21, 2012 03:28 AM (ruiF1)



Lack of gruntles?

Posted by: cthulhu at August 20, 2012 11:29 PM (kaalw)

422 #412

Sorry, I was summoned away by my mother freaking out over her latest online traffic school confusion. She might actually finish tonight.

Posted by: epobirs at August 20, 2012 11:30 PM (kcfmt)

423 It isn't obvious by maps because the political controls are so complex but Beverly Hills was long considered to be the only place that had that status. It used to turn up in books of useless knowledge a lot, like the Bathroom Reader series. I owned the domain bathroombooks.com for several years but never developed the book club idea I had. Posted by: epobirs at August 21, 2012 03:28 AM (kcfmt) Beverly Hills borders the city of West Hollywood. The city of San Fernando is completely surrounded by the city of L. A. and only the city of L. A. de facto aside, San Fernando would be the de jure answer.

Posted by: The Political hat at August 20, 2012 11:32 PM (sZTYJ)

424

Posted by: cthulhu at August 21, 2012 03:26 AM (kaalw)


yeah, my mom collects scrips in a sense of never forgetting about that bullshit

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 11:33 PM (tw6Ar)

425 #424

West Hollywood hasn't existed as a separate entity that long. The question is a mite dated but the discussion raised the memory.

Posted by: epobirs at August 20, 2012 11:37 PM (kcfmt)

426 Why only lurk? (If you see something--say something)

Posted by: derit at August 20, 2012 11:44 PM (ruiF1)

427 animetorrents.me has proven to be quite a treasure trove. Next up, Mayo Chiki.

They're having free downloads for the month, while still crediting uploads and giving new users a chance to build up a good ratio. I've found that sites with ratio systems tend to have a better class of particpants.

Posted by: epobirs at August 20, 2012 11:44 PM (kcfmt)

428
Well there's hatin' on government and then there's claiming that government employees do not actually own their own earnings and can't spend their pay any way they like.

That's koo-koo-bananas shit.

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 21, 2012 03:20 AM (xROTy)



Government employee earnings is an oxymoron. They earn nothing, they are parasites supported by the tax payer.

Posted by: cm9000 at August 20, 2012 11:45 PM (lzvtR)

429 okay, I need to get some sleep, not looking forward to work

Posted by: The Dude at August 20, 2012 11:45 PM (tw6Ar)

430 427 I lurk because I over-correct every posting... it takes me forever to send an email because I reread it 20 times. Maybe OCD?

Posted by: Disgruntled Lurker at August 20, 2012 11:47 PM (UPoZk)

431 A little night mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJEofi_eJ-A

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 20, 2012 11:51 PM (sZTYJ)

432 Reasonable people will accept clarification and humility. Let fly your thoughts of curvy mental images, from which spring forth sexy enlightenment! (whaaa?)

Posted by: derit at August 20, 2012 11:54 PM (ruiF1)

433 Government employee earnings is an oxymoron. They earn nothing, they are parasites supported by the tax payer.

Posted by: cm9000 at August 21, 2012 03:45 AM (lzvtR)


Yep teachers, policemen, garbage collectors, and even the dreaded DMV employees do absolutely no work at all and therefore deserve nothing.

Okay then. Good luck in your battle with economics.

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 20, 2012 11:55 PM (xROTy)

434
Cork soakers:

Lawyers From Suits Against Big Tobacco Target Food Makers

More than a dozen lawyers who took on the tobacco companies have filed 25 cases against industry players like ConAgra Foods, PepsiCo, Heinz, General Mills and Chobani that stock pantry shelves and refrigerators across America.

The suits, filed over the last four months, assert that food makers are misleading consumers and violating federal regulations by wrongly labeling products and ingredients. While there has been a barrage of litigation against the industry in recent years, the tobacco lawyers are moving particularly aggressively. They are asking a federal court in California to halt ConAgraÂ’s sales of Pam cooking spray, Swiss Miss cocoa products and some HuntÂ’s canned tomatoes.

“It’s a crime — and that makes it a crime to sell it,” said Lawyer. Barrett, citing what he contends is the mislabeling of those products. “That means these products should be taken off the shelves.”

The food companies counter that the suits are without merit, another example of litigation gone wild and driven largely by the lawyers’ financial motivations. Mr. Barrett said his group could seek damages amounting to four years of sales of mislabeled products — which could total many billions of dollars.

NYT

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 20, 2012 11:57 PM (kdS6q)

435 Government employee earnings is an oxymoron. They earn nothing, they are parasites supported by the tax payer.

Posted by: cm9000 at August 21, 2012 03:45 AM (lzvtR)



See, there's another example. SOME government workers provide essential functions that are beneficial to all to an extent greater than their cost (but would not be individually purchased due to the "tragedy of the commons" effect).....whereas a large proportion produce little of value and subsist on extractions from the populace under threat of force. But both kinds are intentionally mixed together by the latter in order to elicit statements like cm9000's.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 20, 2012 11:57 PM (kaalw)

436 433 Reasonable people will accept clarification and humility. Let fly your
thoughts of curvy mental images, from which spring forth sexy
enlightenment! (whaaa?)

Posted by: derit at August 21, 2012 03:54 AM (ruiF1)



Yeah, I see it. Needs a gruntle between "mental" and "images".

Posted by: cthulhu at August 20, 2012 11:59 PM (kaalw)

437 Government employee earnings is an oxymoron. They earn nothing, they are parasites supported by the tax payer. Posted by: cm9000 at August 21, 2012 03:45 AM (lzvtR) Yep teachers, policemen, garbage collectors, and even the dreaded DMV employees do absolutely no work at all and therefore deserve nothing. Okay then. Good luck in your battle with economics. Posted by: Mætenloch at August 21, 2012 03:55 AM (xROTy) I've got your back!

Posted by: Lord Keynes at August 21, 2012 12:01 AM (sZTYJ)

438 BTW, if anyone cares, there's a bacon-flavored wootoff in progress. Timing sucks for me -- I've got a metric boatload of stuff to do tomorrow.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 21, 2012 12:01 AM (kaalw)

439 Some more late night mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifwh_R3XUFY

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 21, 2012 12:02 AM (sZTYJ)

440 When libs can't laugh at themselves, you know you have them by the short and curlies.


Posted by: derit at August 21, 2012 12:12 AM (ruiF1)

441 [ewww, flees!]

Posted by: derit at August 21, 2012 12:13 AM (ruiF1)

442 I try to go along with the current fads and fixations, and I keep getting snagged up with this "memory-thing" that makes me suspect that 90% of what the government keeps trying to get us to spend money on are problems caused by the government in the first place..... http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=210446

Posted by: cthulhu at August 21, 2012 12:13 AM (kaalw)

443 I look forward to that... Do be gentle... *smiles*

Posted by: Madeleine Albright at August 21, 2012 12:13 AM (sZTYJ)

444 Free at last! Free at last! She finally finished the traffic school that had an original completion date of July 31st and was extended to the end of this month. This is a program most people do over a weekend if not a single day.

My mudder is the queen of procrastination. She's 83 and still getting birth marks.

Posted by: epobirs at August 21, 2012 12:14 AM (kcfmt)

445 Yep teachers, policemen, garbage collectors, and even the dreaded DMV employees do absolutely no work at all and therefore deserve nothing

I think the point trying to be made is for the most part their work isn't involved in adding to the wealth(in the broadest terms) of the nation.  What they're involved in, and it is necessary, is the preservation of presently existing wealth, and in some rare cases recovery/restoration of lost wealth(ex. Smithsonian artifact restoration staff, Navy/NOAA sonar mapping that sometimes locates wrecks that are salvaged).  Of course, due to retard govt policy, they often involved in the destruction of existing wealth as well...EPA is (in)famous for this.

Occasionally, they add to the wealth with various scientific work that is made public. 

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 21, 2012 12:15 AM (WnzOT)

446 #439

If you see bacon popcorn, don't bother. I recently picked up several boxes a local supermarket was dumping for 50 cents each. Almost complete fail. It'll fill your house with the aroma of bacon but have nearly no detectable bacon flavor, thus adding insult to injury.

Posted by: epobirs at August 21, 2012 12:17 AM (kcfmt)

447 I think the point trying to be made is for the most part their work isn't involved in adding to the wealth(in the broadest terms) of the nation. What they're involved in, and it is necessary, is the preservation of presently existing wealth, and in some rare cases recovery/restoration of lost wealth(ex. Smithsonian artifact restoration staff, Navy/NOAA sonar mapping that sometimes locates wrecks that are salvaged). Of course, due to retard govt policy, they often involved in the destruction of existing wealth as well...EPA is (in)famous for this.

Occasionally, they add to the wealth with various scientific work that is made public.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 21, 2012 04:15 AM (WnzOT)


But when did this become the measure of whether someone 'earns' their pay?

Is this a Libertarian thing?

The guy who washes my car or trims my trees doesn't really add to the wealth of the nation either. But they provide a service that I'm willing to pay money for. And that's true for lots of jobs. Including government ones.

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 21, 2012 12:21 AM (xROTy)

448 Why so serious ONT? Can't you just treat us like Roman P?

Posted by: derit at August 21, 2012 12:25 AM (ruiF1)

449 Engaging a service provider to do something you could do for yourself but would rather not because your time or better applied or you just don't want to, that is the heart of trade. Both parties are enriched by the exchange.

When government takes money by force, as the threat of force is inherent in any taxation, to apply to purposes of dubious value to the taxed, is against the intent of trade. It is an essential reason to desire small government.


Posted by: epobirs at August 21, 2012 12:35 AM (kcfmt)

450 The guy who washes my car or trims my trees doesn't really add to the wealth of the nation either. But they provide a service that I'm willing to pay money for. And that's true for lots of jobs. Including government ones.

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 21, 2012 04:21 AM (xROTy)



The problem is that individual trades are always mutually beneficial -- if you didn't feel that you got more value for what you gave up, you wouldn't have swapped. That's not to say that some don't go bad.....but hopefully you factored in the risk.



The "tragedy of the commons" scenario is where everyone wants to free-ride and nothing gets done. There is a legitimate case that government is necessary to do things like provide for a common defense -- having only those folks living on the border paying for border control leads to rapidly contracting borders. Exacting reasonable amounts for common benefits that would not otherwise happen is a good thing.



But then you get to things like banning light bulbs or funding Solyndra.... If anyone, anywhere, thinks it's a good idea to extract funds from citizens under threat of force in order to push such an agenda, it is prima facie evidence that they are a dangerous nutbag -- even if they have a voluptuous and fun-loving niece. Government in this case is actively destroying value, destroying what is good for people, perverting markets, kneecapping the economy, and ensuring a future more dismal than the present. There can be no consequence too horrid for such evil -- and calls for mere forfeiture of salary are but a down-payment on potential costs.



But that's not "government". Even the people who answer phones and push paper in agencies devoted to such loathsome ends aren't the "government" that deserves such ill-repute. The great mass of people working there could be doing their level best to accomplish what they've been set to do......while through mismanagement they've been steered toward unproductive tasks.



The whole "add to the wealth of the nation" misses the point. If you're in government, you should be doing the desirable things that benefit the commonwealth but that individuals wouldn't do.....but not doing the things that individuals, couples, groups, companies, joint-ventures, and conglomerates wouldn't.




Posted by: cthulhu at August 21, 2012 12:48 AM (kaalw)

451 Looks like it's my time to be dead-but-dreaming.....

Posted by: cthulhu at August 21, 2012 01:01 AM (kaalw)

452 Is there a car made that no longer has automatic windows and door locks?
I want one.
Those features go bad after a few years, in my experience.
I have been driving around a car with a rear door that will not open, at all, and on the other side, the window won't roll down. Dealer wants $700 to fix it and said that they would have to torch off the old lock.
That sucks, since the car is not that old.

Posted by: navybrat at August 21, 2012 01:16 AM (xn8dF)

453 "That sucks, since the car is not that old."

Junk yard parts? DIY costs nothing but time  (and skin--and that'll grow back).

Posted by: derit at August 21, 2012 01:21 AM (ruiF1)

454 The dealer is correct about the lock being torched off.
It is stuck in the deployed position.
I don't have a torch.
It is just plain annoying...

Posted by: navybrat at August 21, 2012 01:24 AM (xn8dF)

455 Akins email is down.
Don't know if that means anything.

Posted by: navybrat at August 21, 2012 01:28 AM (xn8dF)

456 A lock solenoid, welded to the sheet metal of the door?

That sounds odd.

Posted by: derit at August 21, 2012 01:31 AM (ruiF1)

457 When the lock is stuck in deployed position, it makes a solid metal bar.
I have brought it to several reputable mechanics, including the dealer.
Stumped them all so far.

Posted by: navybrat at August 21, 2012 01:36 AM (xn8dF)

458 My Saturn SW2 is going on 13 years and 200k. Doors and windows still work fine. I cannot recall anyone I know having such problems. There is so much else likely to go wrong first to take a car out of service.

Posted by: epobirs at August 21, 2012 01:39 AM (kcfmt)

459 I just remember owning cars 20+ years and never having problems like these.
Other problems, yes. But doors and windows? These should open and close. Not fail due to electrical bs. That is a given.

Posted by: navybrat at August 21, 2012 01:43 AM (xn8dF)

460 Oh, and I can adjust my own side view mirrors, thank you very much.
Another thing with a motor that goes out a bit too often for me.

Posted by: navybrat at August 21, 2012 01:44 AM (xn8dF)

461 The guy who washes my car or trims my trees doesn't really add to the wealth of the nation either.

Maintenance of existing wealth is usually a useful service.  I never claimed otherwise.

From a wealth creation POV, it is valid to view maintenance as a necessary systemic "friction".  IOW, it costs, but if you don't do it, you lose value.

Generally, its desirable to reduce this sort of friction in a system if its excessive or costing more in maintenance than allowing a certain level of deterioration, then doing a replacement with new (ex. the cost/value equation in doing maintenance on a $400 PC is considerably different today than when PC's cost $3,000.)

One of the problems with government is the survival instinct of bureaucracy.  This prevents recognizing when maintain versus buy new crossovers happen, and as a result we wind up with sub optimal expensive maintenance of systems that should have been retired due to not being needed anymore, or replaced (ex. union horseshoe'ers for a town that has no horses, railroad union demands to keep train staff at levels not needed with automated braking systems, etc)

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 21, 2012 01:46 AM (WnzOT)

462 When the lock is stuck in deployed position, it makes a solid metal bar.
I have brought it to several reputable mechanics, including the dealer.
Stumped them all so far.


If the solenoid coil isn't showing a dead short -- i.e. there's some ohms of resistance, then the plunger is stuck/jammed.  This happens all the time with starter solenoids on cars when a bit of rust develops.   A solenoid is a dead simple device, there's only a couple of ways for it to fail.

A squirt of WD40 on the plunger and a few taps with a small ball peen hammer on the housing may cure the problem if the coil checks out. 

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 21, 2012 01:51 AM (WnzOT)

463 Another possibility is the solenoid is fine, but one of the wiring harness contacts feeding it current is loose/corroded.  In that scenario, a VOM could show voltage at the solenoid, but the poor contact can't pass enough current to operate it.

This is kinda like when a battery is low and all you hear is click from the starter.  That's the solenoid kicking, but the punk battery doesn't have enough oomph to turn the more demanding starter motor.

The wiring harness going to the solenoid may also have developed the dreaded black wire disease.  Its a corrosion condition that sometimes develops in DC systems.  The copper wire starts oxidizing and and this dark color crud starts to propagate through the whole harness.  It would happen more often in corrosive atmospheres (like near salt/brackish water), less in places like a desert.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 21, 2012 01:58 AM (WnzOT)

464 Stick around navybrat. I'll go back up and read some. Locksmithed for ten years. Brb.

Posted by: teej at August 21, 2012 02:04 AM (ma+gB)

465 Morning,

I hope someone has pointed out that we are not our brother's keeper; that Cain was merely smarting off to God when he asked if he was Abel's keeper.  Notice that God never answered him.

Obama quotes the bible in the same manner as his father--and I don't mean BHO Sr. or FMD.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 21, 2012 02:09 AM (6kWFm)

466 Navybrat, does the door that won't open have a keylock also?

Posted by: teej at August 21, 2012 02:11 AM (+jNI+)

467 For those slamming all govt workers, can you say roads and bridges?

Posted by: teej at August 21, 2012 02:13 AM (+jNI+)

468 You are of your father the devil?

Posted by: teej at August 21, 2012 02:15 AM (+jNI+)

469 Kansas' "How long to teh Point of No Return?":

http://youtu.be/60A1yKc2hi4

Posted by: derit at August 21, 2012 02:28 AM (ruiF1)

470 @470 - Ah the hometown boys.

Posted by: teej at August 21, 2012 02:39 AM (HEWhR)

471

Roger Zelazny

It is sad that he was incorrect only on two of his predictions for 2012. We have no space colonies and this wonderful sci-fi writer is no longer alive to pen his simple but enjoyable stories.

Posted by: jones at August 21, 2012 02:51 AM (bgj72)

472 So, did fuckhead abort his Senate campaign yet?

Posted by: mugiwara at August 21, 2012 03:02 AM (rLvxx)

473 FWIW - cthulhu pretty much nailed the govt thing at 391. There are other factors involved of course. Civil service/union rules for one. They make it hard to get rid of bad workers. And where I was at the supervisors preferred to just stick their heads in the sand as long as a good worker was carrying the place and getting the work out. Then when they do cut back someone can bump a good worker due to time in service. For instance, my state just lost someone who was always 15-30 minutes early in case he had a flat or needed to help a stranded motorist. Got a cup of coffee and checked his favorite blog and started dead on time or a couple minutes early. Did great work in all phases of testing different types of soil strengths beneath where bridges and retaining walls were going to be built. Important work yes? But now that individual, who has always felt he owed an honest days work for an honest days pay is out of a job due to bumping rules etc. Care to contact the DOT Secretary and tell him how wrong that is? Now, what to do with my first day of funemployment?

Posted by: teej at August 21, 2012 03:04 AM (GX2fm)

474 test

Posted by: Corona at August 21, 2012 03:05 AM (fh2Y7)

475 So, did fuckhead abort his Senate campaign yet? Posted by: mugiwara at August 21, 2012 07:02 AM (rLvxx) Good morning, yes I am curious about how that's going to work out.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 03:05 AM (9TTOe)

476 Too bad Paul Ryan couldn't steal that car commercial.

The glove snapping gynecologist advert part might bring in an otherwise disenfranchised segment.

Liberate some Jerbs.

Freedomize some welfare-ist. 


Posted by: sTevo at August 21, 2012 03:05 AM (VMcEw)

477 Alright, back from zombieland. Thanks Maet.

Posted by: Corona at August 21, 2012 03:06 AM (fh2Y7)

478 Posted by: teej at August 21, 2012 07:04 AM (GX2fm) Play music, take a shower, go to the grocery store and hook up with a milf, she will make you a sammich, then return back here to tell us of your adventures

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 21, 2012 03:08 AM (9TTOe)

479 Hands of Our Future Daycare, located at 868 S. State St., has had its City of Dover Business License suspended pending a hearing. DELAWARE

"No pinching. Just punching." Toddlers forced to fight at daycare by three black child care workers who made video, providing police with evidence.

The women's excuse? The kids needed the exercise. Just ask the First Lady.

Hands of Our Future: No pinching. Just punching.


Posted by: Moochelle "Move" Agenda at August 21, 2012 03:08 AM (BAnPT)

480 Almost forgot Love each other fellow babies.

Posted by: teej at August 21, 2012 03:09 AM (GX2fm)

481 Travelling Wilbury's "Handle with Care":

http://youtu.be/DQ89HHSq9b8

Posted by: derit at August 21, 2012 03:13 AM (ruiF1)

482 >>So, did fuckhead abort his Senate campaign yet?

He rates far below a dolt.

The backlash to his stupidity "graces" abortion, just as the hateful clinic bombers and assassins of doctors affects.

So today he's begging for forgiveness, qualifying his mind as yet pure. Yet, his PR "crime" was mental due to full blown falsehood that he truly believed. What's his point, to ask for forgiveness while insisting innocence? Well, that's how everyone qualifies apologies; the only sort given these days is the non-apology.

If the dolt wants to purge his image of backward stupidity, he has to say where he was WRONG, and that he realizes that scientifically, a rape victim or ANY FEMALE can not simply wish away the very real physical effect of impregnation.

How difficult is it to STFU about rape except to assure that you "feel their pain" and regarding abortion, to simply deny tax funds as abortion is a personal choice and privately funded organizations provide that service.

What has the RNC learned yet from Christine ODonnell and this farthead? Nothing. But for national campaigns, there should be an interview process with a standardized GOP platform to initiate candidates seeking national campaign funding, specifying qualified statements on touchy subjects, and warning taboo to go full blown stupid impromptu. That's Biden's role in the other party.


Posted by: panzernashorn at August 21, 2012 03:41 AM (BAnPT)

483 Obama's position on abortion is "leave the baby in the closet to die screaming if things go wrong with no prosecution".....

UNLESS THE GOP IS REALLY WILLING TO FIGHT BACK WITH THAT FACT THIS IS BAD FOR US

sorry to scream with caps, honest but that is my overall point.

I know our "leaders lack the will to turn the tide by hurting Obama using the media with this.

We could end the media's bias in about ten seconds if Mitt Romney answered with "You know that's an interesting question do I agree with Akin on rape, do you agree with Barack Obama that the police should not investigate when a failed abortion in late term delivers a baby that is then left to die screaming in a linen closet because Barack Obama argued in the Illinois legislature he felt that way?"

BOOM the media will back the hell off...until we Moron types nominate THOSE people to run the party and get them picked we are suckers.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 05:49 AM (LRFds)

484 "Navybrat, does the door that won't open have a keylock also?"

Nope

Posted by: navybrat at August 21, 2012 07:05 AM (xn8dF)

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