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August 26, 2012

Overnight Open Thread (8-26-2012)
— Maetenloch

He was the most famous astronaut of all yet also the quietest, least well known of them.

In The Right Stuff he was portrayed as being a bit boring in his personality and perfection compared to the original Mercury 7. You get a deeper view of the man in Andrew Chaiken's A Man On The Moon where it's clear that he was very, very good and well-liked and respected by his fellow astronauts but didn't particularly crave public attention or enjoy being famous.

And despite being a Navy pilot in the Korean war, a NASA test pilot, and later an Apollo astronaut he always considered himself to be mainly an engineer who flew:

"I am, and ever will be, a white-socks, pocket-protector, nerdy engineer, born under the second law of thermodynamics, steeped in steam tables, in love with free-body diagrams, transformed by Laplace and propelled by compressible flow."

So it's no surprise that his main post-NASA career was as a professor of Aerospace Engineering at the University of Cincinnati.

But make no mistake - he was a test pilot par excellence who flew over 200 types of aircraft and managed to cheat death with his ability several times before he ever got to the moon.

Armstrong's quiet engineering demeanor was perhaps best demonstrated after a flight in the Lunar Lander Training Vehicle (LLTV). Affectionately known as the "flying bedsteads," the LLTV was used to train astronauts who would be making approaches to the lunar surface and was basically a large jet engine pointed downward and small thrusters that could control the attitude of the vehicle during flight.

It was considered a very difficult, and dangerous aircraft to fly. On a LLTV flight in 1968, Armstrong lost control of the aircraft due to a propellant leak and windy conditions. He ejected only moments before it crashed in a fireball. According to James Hansen's biography, an hour or so later fellow astronaut Alan Bean returned to his desk after lunch and found Armstrong at his own desk simply "shuffling some papers." Bean didn't believe what others had told him about the crash so he asked Armstrong who replied, "I lost control and had to bail out of the darn thing."

And then there's the time he saved himself and Dave Scott during a Gemini mission:

During Armstrong and Dave Scott's Gemini VIII mission, the spacecraft malfunctioned and set itself into a roll (starting around 19'00? in the video above), with a rate approaching 60 RPM (1 revolution every second). At roll rates such as this the danger of humans blacking out becomes very real. Armstrong, as the Command Pilot, kept his cool and managed to stop the roll by activating the Reaction Control System, and then orienting the Gemini craft for a perfect emergency landing into the Pacific Ocean.

When I say perfect, I mean perfect. The craft came down exactly where it was supposed to be, and exactly when it was supposed to be there. Between RCS activation and re-entry, Gemini 8 completed another whole orbit around the Earth with Armstrong at the controls. He then had to manually pilot the capsule into re-entry attitude at just the right moment in order to land in the right spot.

Later during the Apollo 11 mission it was only his last minute manual flying that prevented a moon landing abort.

It was his piloting skills, technical ability and absolute unflappability during an emergency that made him a favorite of the NASA brass. Godspeed Neil Armstrong.

And leave it to Obama to remember Armstrong in his typically classless, egotistical way.

Mike Huckabee on Defending Akin: "You bring your gods. We'll bring ours. We'll see whose God answers the prayers and brings fire from heaven"

Because if you don't support Akin, you're just an evil heathen:

In the call, he railed against the pressure being brought to bear on Akin to quit Missouri's U.S. Senate race and compared Republican establishment to "union goons" in their treatment of vendors and consultants. Huckabee said he was personally pressured after his decision to support Akin and his decision to stay in the race against Democratic incumbent U.S. Sen. Claire McCaskill.
The issue was portrayed as a test of faith when Huckabee said this, Politico reported:
"'This could be a Mount Carmel moment,' said the former Arkansas governor, referring to the holy battle between Elijah and the prophets of Baal in the book of Kings. 'You know, you bring your gods. We'll bring ours. We'll see whose God answers the prayers and brings fire from heaven. That's kind of where I'm praying: that there will be fire from heaven, and we'll see it clearly, and everyone else will to.'"

Thanks a lot Fuckabee.

The Culture of the South

Apropos of the review of 'Better Off Without 'Em' from last week. A story of a murder trial Hodding Carter was on in Georgia:

The case before the jury involved an irascible gentleman who lived next door to a filling station. For several months he had been the butt of various jokes played by the attendants and the miscellaneous loafers who hung around the station, despite his warnings and his notorious short temper. One morning, he emptied both barrels of his shotgun at his tormenters, killing one, maiming another permanently, and wounding a third .

When the jury was polled by the incredulous judge, Carter was the only juror who recorded his vote as guilty. As one of the others put it, "He wouldn't of been much of a man if he hadn't shot them fellows."

Well a shooting seems rather harsh - a good beating would have been a more appropriate response.

News You Can Use: How to Find Hidden Blood Splatter Stains

Before CSI does.

To detect blood hiding under paint, Glenn Porter modded his digital camera by swapping out the light filters so that the camera's sensor would record only infrared light. Infrared has slightly longer wavelengths than visible light, so it's better at penetrating thick layers of paint.

The test results were astonishing, which were published last month online in the Journal of Forensic Sciences. Using infrared photography, Porter and his team were able to find blood traces behind 6 layers of black paint, 3 layers of white oil-based paint, 3 layers of white spray paint, 6 layers of red paint, as well as hiding under layers of purple, orange, blue, yellow and green paint. The only paint that caused real problems was white acrylic paint, which was limited to 2 layers of paint.

5 Reasons San Francisco is the Worst Awesome City in America

Well apart from the poop and the anarchy.

Dongs. In public. Just, like, out and flopping around. Do you know how many times, prior to living in San Francisco, I had seen a man walking around completely naked in public? Zero. Do you know how many times I saw that happen when I lived in San Francisco? At least four, that I can remember. I lived there for three months. That's more than one public dong per month, on average. I don't know what the national statistics are like, but that's gotta be way above the usual per capita for that kind of thing.

...Don't doubt for one second that, if you're in San Francisco, someone in your general vicinity is stark naked. Just find them and stand nearby. Nobody will even know you're alive. A dong in public is like an invisibility cloak for anyone in the area who happens to be wearing pants, and it's a power you're able to access more regularly and effectively in San Francisco than anywhere else.

Johnny Cash Does Elvis

Apparently Elvis and Johnny were friends and occasionally had a bit of fun imitating each other's styles.

8 Presidents Who Could Kick Your Ass

Well we've already covered Rutherford 'Badass' Hayes so here's why you didn't mess with Gerald Ford:

Sure, most knew him as the bumbling oaf who played toady to Dick Nixon but before those shameful days, Gerald R. Ford was an All-American athlete. A football player for the University of Michigan, Ford wasn't just some dainty scatback or graceful receiver. No, he was an asskicking lineman. And this was back in the day when they barely wore pads and only had a shitty leather cap on their heads for protection. No wonder the dude was a little dazed later in life. But in his prime, you better believe that Gerald R. Ford could have kicked your ass. In fact, rumor has it that the character of Ogre in Revenge of the Nerds was based on Ford.

Ugly License Plates

Well there must a happy medium between simple with ugly colors and a super busy background where you can barely read the characters.

Weekly AoSHQ Commenter Standings

Top 10 commenters:
1 [1374 comments] 'sven10077' [192.86 posts/day]
2 [460 comments] 'Vic'
3 [385 comments] 'jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright'
4 [363 comments] 'steevy'
5 [343 comments] 'Anna Puma (+SmuD)'
6 [326 comments] 'JParker'
7 [320 comments] '@PurpAv'
8 [319 comments] 'thunderb'
9 [314 comments] 'garrett'
10 [313 comments] 'Adam'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [123 names] 'JParker' [17.26 unique names/day]
2 [81 names] 'Adam'
3 [62 names] 'The Political Hat'
4 [56 names] 'fluffy'
5 [54 names] 'We landed on mars!'
6 [52 names] 'Cicero'
7 [43 names] 'JParker'
8 [37 names] 't-bird'
9 [36 names] 'toby928?'
10 [34 names] 'Dang'

The group. Yeah.

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1 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 06:21 PM (6o4Fb)

2 I didn't know Ringo Starr was a fighter pilot.

Posted by: USS Diversity at August 26, 2012 06:24 PM (0CiTm)

3 One of my earliest memories was watching a splashdown from one of the Apollo missions. After I saw what it was all about, I was hooked---airplanes, helicopters, parachutes etc. Neil Armstrong was truly an American hero and I look forward to high-fiving him in Heaven.

God bless and Godspeed sir!

Posted by: tc at August 26, 2012 06:24 PM (wb4qc)

4 That pic of Huckabee -- horns or a halo?

Posted by: Mindy administers Rorschach test at August 26, 2012 06:25 PM (601AC)

5 Neil Armstrong? Meh. Now, Stretch Armstrong was a badass.

Posted by: Joey Biteme at August 26, 2012 06:28 PM (mxnUd)

6 We're you like Obama watching the splash downs from on top of your grandfathers shoulders while you were actually living in Indonesia? Or are you-unlike Obama- just truthful?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2012 06:29 PM (wp9Wo)

7 The utah plates are teh awesome. And the slogan under the arches is now "life elevated" which is also teh awesome.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at August 26, 2012 06:29 PM (5H6zj)

8 It's ON Huckabee! I am so electorally smiting Akin this November!

Posted by: Baal at August 26, 2012 06:29 PM (sZTYJ)

9 Just started reading The Right Stuff again a couple days before Armstrong slipped the bonds of gravity bound for the heavens for the last time. RIP Commander Armstrong.

Posted by: NC Ref at August 26, 2012 06:30 PM (/izg2)

10 Sooper Mexican blogged on SCOAMF's tribute to Neil Armstrong. A pic of the SCOAMF in silhouette looking at the moon.

http://tinyurl.com/9rjnopa

Posted by: kbdabear at August 26, 2012 06:30 PM (wwsoB)

11 When I look at Armstrong and Aldrin in their spacesuits, I gotta wonder where the fuck they stowed their balls in those things.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 26, 2012 06:31 PM (1grxW)

12 You Republicans have just lost our vote! The Dems are more willing to compromise: We can still engage in human sacrifices, just as long as they are in utero!

Posted by: Worshipers of Baal at August 26, 2012 06:31 PM (sZTYJ)

13 SC and HI have lovely license plates. And that NW Territories? HOW COULD YOU NOT LOVE THAT??

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 26, 2012 06:32 PM (EnCx3)

14 Another thing Romney must do is ask for the resignation of these knob polishing politicians in uniform who let Obama run our military into the ground. Yet again, a remarkable thing happened last week which has not garnered even a yawn from the mainstream media. General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, gave an interview with Fox News on 22 August and discussed his "disappointment" with the critique of the Obama administration by the Special Operations OPSEC Education Fund (OPSEC). In an amazing contortion -- even for one who has spent many years in the upper levels of the Pentagon -- he claims that as the steward of the military profession, he is critical of former service members for "using the uniform, whatever uniform, for partisan politics" while giving the referenced interview in uniform. He continues by complaining about OPSEC by claiming that their effort to educate the public regarding the sensitive nature of national intelligence information is "not useful. It's not useful to me."

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 06:32 PM (6o4Fb)

15 Remind me never to pose for Circus magazine!

Posted by: t-bird at August 26, 2012 06:33 PM (FcR7P)

16 I actually think that Huckabee thinks that even Jesus is going to vote for Akin. Well Huckster, Jesus ain't registered to vote in Missouri.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 26, 2012 06:34 PM (1grxW)

17 hi all
can't stay up late, big school day tomorrow

1 [1374 comments] 'sven10077' [192.86 posts/day]

holy shit! Someone get sven a fifth of Val-U-Rite for that performance

Posted by: chemjeff at August 26, 2012 06:34 PM (d/5qf)

18 Oh well, so much for my PseudONT

Posted by: seamrog at August 26, 2012 06:35 PM (nVMji)

19 Evening Maet, I'm gonna need sedated or sleep. Thanks for the Armstrong bio.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 26, 2012 06:36 PM (LRFds)

20 Helen Reynolds linked to a NYTimes OpEd today.

http:// www.nytimes.com/2012/08/25/ opinion/men-who-needs-them.html

This guy doesn't even rise to the level of beta male. Seriously, it's just sickening.

Posted by: Alex at August 26, 2012 06:36 PM (/nZEe)

#2 The Public Dongs.

Posted by: Dongs are for suckers at August 26, 2012 06:36 PM (mxnUd)

22 Ugly License Plates Fail. I'll agree with Kentucky, though.

Posted by: t-bird at August 26, 2012 06:36 PM (FcR7P)

23 I actually think that Huckabee thinks that even Jesus is going to vote for Akin. Well Huckster, Jesus ain't registered to vote in Missouri. Posted by: MrCaniac at August 26, 2012 10:34 PM (1grxW) I'm going to have to see Jesus' birth certificate.

Posted by: Insane Birther at August 26, 2012 06:37 PM (sZTYJ)

24 17 CJ, I'm trying to quit. I'd like to thank Akin fan and the Paulnuts....insomnia, mania, and stupidity. Ty, Sven

Posted by: sven10077 at August 26, 2012 06:37 PM (LRFds)

25 New Jersey missed the list of ugliest license plates? We went out of our way to make the black letters on bluff background the epitome of dull and ugly.

We'll just have to fix that. Nobody out uglies New Jersey!

Posted by: NJ DMV at August 26, 2012 06:38 PM (wwsoB)

26 I didn't think the Minnesota license plate was bad.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2012 06:38 PM (wp9Wo)

27 Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 10:32 PM (6o4Fb) Yeah, Dempsey was out of line in regard to FORMER active duty folk. They can say what they want as long as it is not still classified.

Posted by: CDR M at August 26, 2012 06:39 PM (dKV5k)

28 It was his piloting skills, technical ability and absolute unflappability during a crisis that made him a favorite of the NASA brass.
***
I've been reading Keegan's history of the Civil War and one of the points he makes about Stonewall Jackson is that part of the reason the man was so successful as a general is that he had *no* fear of death or injury.

In Jackson's case he believed God had already decided when and how he would die...so why worry about it?

Of course if that is true God has a weird sense of humor.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2012 06:39 PM (AUeaU)

29 Stephanie Abrams Weather Boobs

http://tinyurl.com/9ovbj74

Posted by: kbdabear at August 26, 2012 06:39 PM (wwsoB)

30 I'm going to have to see Jesus' birth certificate.
***
RACIST!!! You just say that because he's got a latin name!

Posted by: The State Media at August 26, 2012 06:40 PM (AUeaU)

31 Jesus ain't registered to vote in Missouri.

Â¡que lo registrado doce veces!

Posted by: Latinos Por Obama at August 26, 2012 06:41 PM (hO8IJ)

32 Huckabee is making the grave error of equating opposition to Akin staying in the race with opposition the pro-life position. The two are not the same, and for him to frame the issue that way puts people who are actually on the same side at odds with each other .

Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 26, 2012 06:41 PM (P6QsQ)

33 28 What kind of Christians believe in predestination besides Puritans?

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 06:42 PM (6o4Fb)

34 I work in the O'Hare Airport 911 Center. One day Aldrin, Lovell, Armstrong and someone else, maybe Cernan, were flying out on AA to go to some USO or military related thing.

Anyway, THAT'S BIGTIME SHIT, and so they had a police detail assigned to the gate, etc. I half jokingly told the cop who was going over there, "Ask them to wave at me via the security camera when they go to get on the jetbridge."

They. Freaking. Did.

I almost had a stroke. I mean -- it still gives me chills today.

And that's the closest thing I have to an Armstrong story.

RIP, good man.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 26, 2012 06:42 PM (oiTOF)

35 I didn't think the Minnesota license plate was bad.

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Me either. I like loons.

Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 26, 2012 06:43 PM (P6QsQ)

36
The Dems are more willing to compromise: We can still engage in human sacrifices, just as long as they are in utero!
***
I've actually seen 'historians' trying to defend the Punic baby-bbq'ers of late.

The Romans and Jews just made all that stuff up you see, and dammit those babies deserved it anyway!

I think it is a desperate attempt to get beyond the obvious analogy...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2012 06:43 PM (AUeaU)

37 i dont think Armstrong was in the movie

Posted by: avi at August 26, 2012 06:43 PM (51xVX)

38 OK. We need a ban on football announcers using the phrase "he goes down in the arms of ---"

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 26, 2012 06:43 PM (hO8IJ)

39 The Kentucky plate is disturbing, but aside from Florida being too busy, I don't mind the rest of the plates.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 26, 2012 06:44 PM (K5Md6)

40 Ever since Arlen Specter left the party, I didn't think it was possible for an influential Republican to annoy me more than Ron Paul. I was wrong.

Posted by: AD at August 26, 2012 06:44 PM (wMUiZ)

41 This stupid bullshit guy in the blue suit can go away too.

Posted by: USS Diversity at August 26, 2012 06:44 PM (0CiTm)

I read Chuck Yeager's autobiography some years ago and I got the impression he didn't think too much of Armstrong's piloting skills.

Posted by: Bill R. at August 26, 2012 06:44 PM (QnRSM)

43 27 CdrM, Rules run in one direction lately. Have a good'n nite o all.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 26, 2012 06:45 PM (LRFds)

44 29 Stephanie Abrams Weather Boobs

http://tinyurl.com/9ovbj74

Posted by: kbdabear at August 26, 2012 10:39 PM (wwsoB)

I would hit that like a wind driven 2x4.

Well, 2"x4".

Posted by: JimboHoffa at August 26, 2012 06:45 PM (dAfqy)

45 What kind of Christians believe in predestination besides Puritans? Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 10:42 PM (6o4Fb) IIRC, it was one of the leading tenants of Calvinism

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 26, 2012 06:45 PM (sZTYJ)

46 sven10077 Â— Commenting So You Don't Have To Â™ (Epic, sir.)

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 26, 2012 06:45 PM (kqGWM)

47 Tickets are still available for the SCOMF's appearance Tuesday at Iowa State University. Yet another sign of his appeal becoming more selective.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at August 26, 2012 06:45 PM (gIrkv)

48 Woot I made top 5!

lulz.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 26, 2012 06:45 PM (ovpNn)

49 Yeah, Dempsey was out of line in regard to FORMER active duty folk. They can say what they want as long as it is not still classified.

Posted by: CDR M at August 26, 2012 10:39 PM (dKV5k)

Either that or there is a whole bunch of former active duty military politicians who should resign tomorrow.

Posted by: robtr at August 26, 2012 06:45 PM (MtwBb)

50 'You know, you bring your gods. We'll bring ours. We'll see whose God answers the prayers and brings fire from heaven. That's kind of where I'm praying
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If God directly controls the outcome of votes, his plan truly is mysterious and you'd be a fool to think you know who he wants.

If God doesn't directly control the outcome, why wouldn't you want a stronger candidate in place of a weaker one? My understanding is Akin isn't the only pro-life conservative available.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2012 06:46 PM (AUeaU)

Stephanie Abrams Weather Boobs

God bless hormone loaded milk. It has everything a growing girl needs.

Posted by: Alex at August 26, 2012 06:46 PM (/nZEe)

52 I was only two years old at the time of the first Moon landing. My parents said they got us kids up to watch but I don't remember it at all.

I wish I did. I wish I'd seen Armstrong and Aldrin accomplish the most important thing in human history.

Long after everything around us is dust, when our language is no longer spoken and all the politicians, millionaires, and "celebrities" are not even footnotes, there will still be Armstrong and Aldrin's footprints on the Moon. There will still be a plaque on the lunar surface saying Here, on July 20, 1969, men from the planet Earth set foot on the Moon.

It is the most important thing anyone has done, and may possibly be the most important thing anyone will do.

Posted by: Trimegistus at August 26, 2012 06:46 PM (llCip)

53 Curious if anyone has a take on this new book by Time hack Michael Grunwald, "The New New Deal" supposedly how everyone is wrong about the "stimulus". All my lib pals are absolutely giddy. Driving me bonkers. From what I can tell it's just a bunch of cherry picked nonsense and completely ignores the "fiscal cliff" ARRA not to mention: we have yet to have anything close resembling a "recovery"

Posted by: David C. at August 26, 2012 06:47 PM (ZtMso)

54 Every test pilot I ever knew growing up considered themselves engineers first and pilots second. That's how you could distinguish between those who graduated to be test pilot and those who remained fighter pilots. Fighter pilots figured nothing would go wrong, test pilots knew everything could go wrong.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at August 26, 2012 06:47 PM (NzBQO)

55 Mama Winger: "Huckabee is making the grave error of equating opposition to Akin staying in the race with opposition the pro-life position. The two are not the same, and for him to frame the issue that way puts people who are actually on the same side at odds with each other ."

And I find myself wondering if he's doing it on purpose.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at August 26, 2012 06:47 PM (2S60h)

56 Posted by: Alex at August 26, 2012 10:36 PM (/nZEe)

That article was a cry for help...

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 06:48 PM (yYKoR)

57 Huckabee is a fat retard and the GOP is only giving him a speaking slot because they are afraid he will hurt them more if they don't.They are probably right.

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 06:48 PM (6o4Fb)

58 33 28 What kind of Christians believe in predestination besides Puritans?

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 10:42 PM (6o4Fb)

Good Calvinists.

Posted by: AD at August 26, 2012 06:48 PM (wMUiZ)

59 Yeah, Akin should have just said that he was on drugs that day and had just returned from getting a blowjob from his secretary while he was stacking stolen government money in his freezer and that he misspoke himself or that his comments were taken out of context. He should have done a democrat on the whole thing. Poor Huck, of chick-fil-a support fame, should have found a way to leave his samaritan at home on this one, even if he does see the dumbass bleeding to death and continuing to get kicked by every passerby. More front-page news, from either camp, we don't need on this topic.

Posted by: and irresolute at August 26, 2012 06:48 PM (Q492A)

60 Tickets are still available for the SCOAMF's appearance Tuesday at Iowa State University.

*twitch*

There's a lot of math there.

George Washington Carver would hate his ass.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 26, 2012 06:48 PM (hO8IJ)

61 42 I read Chuck Yeager's autobiography some years ago and I got the impression he didn't think too much of Armstrong's piloting skills.

Chuck Yeager thought a lot about Chuck Yeager's piloting skills, which, were exemplary. I think his ego and cavalier attitude made him a better A/C pilot rather than astronaut.

Posted by: tc at August 26, 2012 06:48 PM (wb4qc)

62 Crap huckabee is going to speak yuck

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 26, 2012 06:48 PM (Ho2rs)

63 54 Every test pilot I ever knew growing up considered themselves engineers first and pilots second. That's how you could distinguish between those who graduated to be test pilot and those who remained fighter pilots. Fighter pilots figured nothing would go wrong, test pilots knew everything could go wrong.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at August 26, 2012 10:47 PM (NzBQO)

I think it may also be due to my humble guess that it's easier to be a competent pilot than a competent engineer.

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 06:49 PM (yYKoR)

64 33 28 What kind of Christians believe in predestination besides Puritans? Posted by: steevy and 45 (Political Hat) Yep-one of the main tenets of "reformed" denominations is predestination. The church we go to now-Presbyterian Church of America (PCA) is all over this. As a fallen Southern Baptist, I am having a bit of trouble with that, as well as the lack of substantial casseroles. Presbys are not into cooking the way SB's are. You can tell by the number of buttons that pop off the pastor's jacket and take out deacons when he gets riled up.

Posted by: moki at August 26, 2012 06:49 PM (dZmFh)

65 33 28 What kind of Christians believe in predestination besides Puritans? Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 10:42 PM (6o4Fb) Any Calvinists? Many many many many.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 26, 2012 06:50 PM (MrM2k)

66 Huckabee is a fat retard and the GOP is only giving him a speaking slot because they are afraid he will hurt them more if they don't.

His slot was canceled because it was supposed to be on Monday. (cough) He hasn't been given a new one yet.

Posted by: AD at August 26, 2012 06:50 PM (wMUiZ)

67 well unless hes into little boys, Akin doesnt strike me as one who gets it too often

Posted by: avi at August 26, 2012 06:50 PM (51xVX)

68 It is the most important thing anyone has done, and may possibly be the most important thing anyone will do.

Posted by: Trimegistus at August 26, 2012 10:46 PM (llCip)

Nonsense!!! Electing St. Obama was the most important thing in history!

Posted by: Iowa Bob at August 26, 2012 06:50 PM (gIrkv)

69 Fatfuckabee is still speaking?

You got to be fucking kidding me.

I hope they gave him a 2:00 am slot

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 26, 2012 06:51 PM (ovpNn)

70 Ever since Arlen Specter left the party, I didn't think it was possible for an influential Republican to annoy me more than Ron Paul. I was wrong. Posted by: AD at August 26, 2012 10:44 PM (wMUiZ) Seriously, F**K Ron Paul. Despite coming in THIRD out of four in Nevada's caucus, he's grabbed almost all of the delegates, and now they are going to ignore the vast majority of the Nevada Republicans who caucused to support Paul. They also took over the Clark County (home of Las Vegas and 70% of the state's population) and the state parties. They've effectivly run everyone else off and then have the gale to whine about non-Ron Paul cultists not supporting the Ron Paul people 110%! These lunatics are trying to defeat Rep. Joe Heck and Sen. Heller, and using the state and Clark County party apparatus to do so. Even though Romney, Heller, and Heck have started their own "shadow party" via Team Nevada, the party is divided, and the Dems have increased their voter registration lead by 30% since the primaries. If we loose Nevada, the blame will be squarely on the Ron Paul cultists (or as they call themselves, the "Liberty Movement"). I'm still cool with Rand Paul, in large part due to the fact that the Ron Paul cultists threw a temper-tantrum when he endorsed Romney.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 26, 2012 06:51 PM (sZTYJ)

71 I'm predestined to find dead babies, bitch.

Posted by: Shemp Smith at August 26, 2012 06:51 PM (IoNBC)

72 Either we have free will or we are predestined,can't be both.

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 06:51 PM (6o4Fb)

Fuckabee exists to make an alligators dreams come true.

Now get your shinebox and head for Florida, huck.

Posted by: JimboHoffa at August 26, 2012 06:52 PM (dAfqy)

74 I blame Bush for Huckabee, Neil Armstrong, the hurricane, and dongs.

Posted by: Ms. Madeleine A. at August 26, 2012 06:52 PM (Yfszu)

75 66 I saw a him on Fox tonight,said he's speaking Wednesday.

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 06:52 PM (6o4Fb)

76 38 OK. We need a ban on football announcers using the phrase "he goes down in the arms of ---" Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ at August 26, 2012 10:43 PM (hO8IJ) Ditto for "--- taken down in the backfield". Sounds dirty to me every time. Then again, maybe that's why I hang out here. ;-)

Posted by: walter sobchak at August 26, 2012 06:52 PM (sReF7)

77 74 I blame Bush for Huckabee, Neil Armstrong, the hurricane, and dongs.

Posted by: Ms. Madeleine A. at August 26, 2012 10:52 PM (Yfszu)

the hurricane, you mean the adult beverage? I hear those are good.

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 06:53 PM (yYKoR)

I am glad I read the SF story. Now it is clear why they love Pelosi there. It's because they are even more batshit crazy than I thought

I've visited SF only once, in the early '80's. I do remember wondering why such a pretty city had so much garbage strewn around, but I don't recall seeing poop everywhere. SF has evidently "progressed" since then.

Posted by: Donna V. at August 26, 2012 06:53 PM (EflcN)

79 72 Either we have free will or we are predestined,can't be both. Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 10:51 PM (6o4Fb) Well that ends the debate. Imma go tell those theologians to quite yappin'.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 26, 2012 06:54 PM (MrM2k)

80 What kind of Christians believe in predestination besides Puritans?
***
He was a Presbyterian.

Ah, this quote about sums it up,

My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to be always ready, no matter when it may overtake me. ... That is the way all men should live, and then all would be equally brave

Certainly an interesting take on it. Jackson appears to have been one of the very few men for whom courage wasn't surmounting your fear - but not having it in the first place.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2012 06:54 PM (AUeaU)

81 I'm having dinner tomorrow with a Paulbot. I hope I don't have to kill the poor idiot.

Posted by: Vegan Meatball at August 26, 2012 06:54 PM (mxnUd)

82 72 Either we have free will or we are predestined,can't be both.

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 10:51 PM (6o4Fb)

I was predestined to have free will.

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 06:54 PM (yYKoR)

Look we can either make good plates or good Bourbon.....You decide.

Love,

Kentucky

Posted by: Kentucky at August 26, 2012 06:54 PM (HiKk0)

I once did a medical evaluation on a Hispanic baby named Jesus Hernandez. I started my letter to the referring physician thusly:

"As you know, Jesus was born at City Hospital by forceps-assisted vaginal delivery with birth weight 8 lbs 6 oz."

It didn't dawn on me until later that I was literally re-writing the Gospel.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 26, 2012 06:54 PM (hgSh3)

85 Chuck Yeager thought a lot about Chuck Yeager's piloting skills, which, were exemplary. I think his ego and cavalier attitude made him a better A/C pilot rather than astronaut. Posted by: tc at August 26, 2012 10:48 PM (wb4qc) But what does chuck Yeager think about his persona being turned into a large breasted Usagi-mimi mecha-musume mahou shoujo who flies around in her pantsu? http://strikewitches.wikia.com/wiki/Charlotte_E._Yeager

Posted by: ザ政治的帽子 at August 26, 2012 06:55 PM (sZTYJ)

86 79 They can yap all they want,it is settled,for ME.

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 06:55 PM (6o4Fb)

87 These lunatics are trying to defeat Rep. Joe Heck and Sen. Heller, and using the state and Clark County party apparatus to do so.

What are they doing to Heller?

Posted by: AD at August 26, 2012 06:55 PM (wMUiZ)

88 Of course they've got Jimi in a top dogs/famous type list, as well he should be. But they actually have my all time favorite blues/rock guitarist. He got snubbed on some recent list altogether. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Alvin. Lee.

Posted by: teej at August 26, 2012 06:55 PM (BfZ1r)

89 What kind of Christians believe in predestination besides Puritans?

(*raises hand*)

Of course, I do have a deep admiration for the Puritans.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 26, 2012 06:55 PM (QhAIe)

90 72- I figure an omniscient God knows who's going to join him, but being polite and well mannered, He always gives us the option of saying yes or no. And completely OT, we are on hurricane alert, since we are in the FL panhandle. The only things that are running low are gas and beer. I figured there must be a hell of a lot more morons around here than let on.

Posted by: moki at August 26, 2012 06:55 PM (dZmFh)

91 I would also remind Mr. Huckabee that if Jesus had wanted to become directly hands-on involved in politics, He had ample opportunity to do so while He walked this earth. There were plenty of atrocities being committed within the Roman Empire at the time . He could have called fire down from heaven upon evil politicians any time He chose, and could have lobbied for better laws and better leaders. He chose not to, and in fact resisted very serious attempts by His disciples to get involved with resisting the pagan Roman Empire and establishing a Jewish state.

Perhaps Huckabee could ponder the message of Jesus that His Kingdom is not of this world, and concentrate on changing hearts rather than changing laws. Because that is where this battle will be won, if it is to be won at all.

Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 26, 2012 06:55 PM (P6QsQ)

92 83
Look we can either make good plates or good Bourbon.....You decide.
Love,
Kentucky

Posted by: Kentucky at August 26, 2012 10:54 PM (HiKk0)

I don't care if your plates are gayer than a tree full of parrots....please stick to Bourbon.

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 06:56 PM (yYKoR)

93 Posted by: ザ政治的帽子 at August 26, 2012 10:55 PM (sZTYJ) Does that mean "The Political Hat"? And why is their both Chinese and Japanese... I SO CONFUSE

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 26, 2012 06:57 PM (MrM2k)

94 I blame Bush for Huckabee, Neil Armstrong, the hurricane, and dongs. Posted by: Ms. Madeleine A. at August 26, 2012 10:52 PM (Yfszu) Bush can't be responsible for dongs! He can't be responsible for anything good, because I love dongs!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 26, 2012 06:57 PM (sZTYJ)

95 91. BAM.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 26, 2012 06:57 PM (oiTOF)

Posted by: tc at August 26, 2012 10:48 PM (wb4qc)

I think there may have been a bit of sour grapes there too. Everything he did, he did as an Air Force pilot and the pay was shit back then. Not that it's so great now but we've come a long way since those days. Also, a lot of what he did was secret for many years afterward.

Posted by: Bill R. at August 26, 2012 06:57 PM (QnRSM)

97 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 26, 2012 06:58 PM (JMmQ9)

98 Either we have free will or we are predestined,can't be both.
***

If you think of time as a sequence of choices, then indeed how can you have free will and predestination?

On the other hand, if you think of time more as a physical dimension you move through - that can be viewed outside of the progress of time itself then you are by definition pre-destined...all your choices were made when you were created (along with everyone else's). Think of it as a long painting - you can scan it left to right, but the right most part is as complete as the left most when you start viewing it.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2012 06:58 PM (AUeaU)

99 Omnipitence doesn't rule out free will.God can see all our POSSIBLE futures.He stands outside time and sees all.

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 06:58 PM (6o4Fb)

100 Calvinists basic tenets TULIP
Total depravity
Unconditional election
Limited atonement
Irresistible grace
Perseverance of the saints

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at August 26, 2012 06:58 PM (NzBQO)

101 Fuckabee is trying to frag Mitt and he gets a speaking slot, while Palin is just somebody the reporters will chase for photo ops.

I'd love to see Sarah out in the rain, if you know what I mean

Posted by: kbdabear at August 26, 2012 06:58 PM (wwsoB)

102 Posted by: ザ政治的帽子 at August 26, 2012 10:55 PM (sZTYJ) Does that mean "The Political Hat"? And why is their both Chinese and Japanese... I SO CONFUSE Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 26, 2012 10:57 PM (MrM2k) Yes. It contains both katakana and kanji (the Chinese characters are the same in any language from Chinese to Japanese to Korean even).

Posted by: ザ政治的帽子 at August 26, 2012 06:59 PM (sZTYJ)

103 'night, morons.

Posted by: Trimegistus at August 26, 2012 07:00 PM (llCip)

104 Due to stupidity I put this on the end of the last thread and therefore ask forgiveness. If I had my way Neil Armstrong would be lying in honor in the Capitol Rotunda later this week: I'm sorry, but the Northwest Territories license plate is classic. If I was in a state that allowed a vanity plate on the front, I'd buy one and hope it wasn't stolen. I should ask my dad if he kept his (and my mom, who had to have one on her Boston Bruins-colored 67 Camaro)

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 07:01 PM (yXnZF)

105

Neil Armstrong died. Sad. Wonder if the disappointment at having all his Tour de France medals rescinded had anything to do with it?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 26, 2012 07:01 PM (hgSh3)

106 The New New Deal" supposedly how everyone is wrong about the "stimulus".
***
Liberalism might have finally reached the line where normal people will reject it out right.

Are you going to believe me or your lying severance check sucker, uh, voter?!?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2012 07:01 PM (AUeaU)

107 Yeah, the naked guy thing is true, but mostly is confined to Market and Castro.
Or Folsom St. Fair.
Or Carnaval.

Posted by: navybrat at August 26, 2012 07:02 PM (PIgwN)

108 Okay- I denounce myself for that last bit of smart-assery. Neil Armstrong was a national hero and I admire him greatly.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 26, 2012 07:02 PM (hgSh3)

109

Yes. It contains both katakana and kanji (the Chinese characters are the same in any language from Chinese to Japanese to Korean even).

Koreans have their own 25 letter alphabet. They do not use Chinese or Japanese characters in it.

Posted by: Bill R. at August 26, 2012 07:02 PM (QnRSM)

110 105 Neil Armstrong died. Sad. Wonder if the disappointment at having all his Tour de France medals rescinded had anything to do with it?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 26, 2012 11:01 PM (hgSh3)

was it MSNBC who reported it as Neil Young? Canadian singer/songwriter/douchebag?

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 07:02 PM (yYKoR)

111 The thing about pre-destination is that God knows all, including what will happen. God knows when you will kick the bucket, and with what transvestite hooker. Many of the advocates of "pre-destination" assume that because God knows when a person will snuff it, that it is God that has determined that; this also assumes that God has determined if you go to Heaven and Hell, meaning that some people were born only to suffer in Hell. This is silly since it could be easily argued that it is the individual who decided whether to accept salvation or not, and that God just knows what that choice will end up being. Now, back to those license plates...

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 26, 2012 07:03 PM (sZTYJ)

112

"the hurricane, you mean the adult beverage? I hear those are good."

Yes. It's all about the booze not the 'tropical storm' in Florida. The real hurricane is God's way of punishing the Republicans for wanting to reign in spending, tackle entitlements, and prohibit late-term abortion.

Posted by: Ms. Madeleine A. at August 26, 2012 07:03 PM (Yfszu)

113 Howdy, morons! All I want to impart tonight is how much I despise Mike Huckabee. All my previously conceived notions of him have been duly confirmed, and, therefore, I can give him a big EFF YEW! That is all.

Posted by: kalneva at August 26, 2012 07:03 PM (cQmXn)

114 Neil Armstrong died. Sad. Wonder if the disappointment at having all his Tour de France medals rescinded had anything to do with it? Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 26, 2012 11:01 PM Well played.

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 26, 2012 07:04 PM (JMmQ9)

115 Neil Armstrong died. Sad. Wonder if the disappointment at having all his Tour de France medals rescinded had anything to do with it?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 26, 2012 11:01 PM (hgSh3)

Yeah Armstrong hasn't been stripped of his Tour de France titles yet, USADA doesn't have that authority. I don't know why they keep saying he's been stripped of his titles, they can only give over their evidence to the UCI for judgement.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at August 26, 2012 07:06 PM (NzBQO)

116 Retarded garden gnome. uzzfeed captured video of the remarks, focusing on a segment where Ron Paul claimed that, had his people been in charge, thousands of victims from the 9/11 attacks would still be alive. Paul was discussing foreign policy when he said: Â“SomebodyÂ… said the other day on the Internet, Â‘if those Paul people had been in charge, Osama Bin Laden would still be alive.Â’Â” The former presidential candidate countered with emotion: Â“But you know what I think the answer is? So would the 3000 people [killed] on 9/11, be alive!Â” At that, the crowd roared.

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 07:06 PM (6o4Fb)

117 112 "the hurricane, you mean the adult beverage? I hear those are good."

Yes. It's all about the booze not the 'tropical storm' in Florida.The real hurricane is God's way of punishing the Republicans for wanting to reign in spending, tackle entitlements, and prohibit late-term abortion.

Posted by: Ms. Madeleine A. at August 26, 2012 11:03 PM (Yfszu)

...because without a name to the hurricane, it's not a violent atmospheric event, it's a drink.

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 07:06 PM (yYKoR)

118 Conscience is the instrument by which predestination controls our free will. We are predestined by our reptilian brains to do murder and mayhem for example, or free will in other words, but the layers of fat that surround and surpress that purity, which we choose to lable conscience, serve to keep us inside the lines, mostly, sometimes. We suffer predestination and we also have free will.

Posted by: and irresolute at August 26, 2012 07:06 PM (Q492A)

119 Huckabee should be happy his speaking slot was cancelled, because I have a feeling he would have been booed.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 07:07 PM (yXnZF)

120 Koreans have their own 25 letter alphabet. They do not use Chinese or Japanese characters in it. Posted by: Bill R. at August 26, 2012 11:02 PM (QnRSM) I thought that South Korea still had some vistigial use of Hanja (Korean version of Kanji)...

Posted by: ザ政治的帽子 at August 26, 2012 07:07 PM (sZTYJ)

121 In IL, you can specifically request a plate in which the letters/numbers do not obscure Lincoln's face.
Fact.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 26, 2012 07:08 PM (oiTOF)

122 was it MSNBC who reported it as Neil Young? Canadian singer/songwriter/douchebag?
Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 11:02 PM

I guess this confused the 20 layers of editors checking the facts;

Well, I dreamed I saw the silver
Space ships flying
In the yellow haze of the sun,
There were children crying
And colors flying
All around the chosen ones.
All in a dream, all in a dream
The loading had begun.
They were flying Mother Nature's
Silver seed to a new home in the sun.
Flying Mother Nature's
Silver seed to a new home

Posted by: kbdabear at August 26, 2012 07:08 PM (wwsoB)

123

While Chuck Yeager is quite a charming character and a real heroic pilot in his own right (first man to fly faster than the speed of sound in the X-1), he also has a huge ego. In many ways an incredible pilot, in many ways kind of an irritating guy.

Armstrong eschewed the public fame that could have been his after Apollo 11. He did speak of the "spirit of Apollo" which he hoped would be an inspiration to the world to just be a better place (after the outpouring of good will following the mission), but that was about it.

Both great pilots, but very different kinds of men.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch (fake Internet person) writes..... at August 26, 2012 07:08 PM (sJTmU)

124
Yep-one of the main tenets of "reformed" denominations is predestination. The church we go to now-Presbyterian Church of America (PCA) is all over this. As a fallen Southern Baptist, I am having a bit of trouble with that, as well as the lack of substantial casseroles. Presbys are not into cooking the way SB's are. You can tell by the number of buttons that pop off the pastor's jacket and take out deacons when he gets riled up.

Posted by: moki at August 26, 2012 10:49 PM (dZmFh)

As a Presbyterian, our church is affiliated with PC-USA, I would remind you that our church women are not the casserole bakers that Southern Baptists are. Our women tend to be the masters of the deviled eggs. At any good Presbyterian gathering, there will be at least 10 different styles of deviled eggs.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 26, 2012 07:08 PM (1grxW)

125 Da Lutrans are the best hot-dish makers, dontcha know.

Posted by: kalneva at August 26, 2012 07:10 PM (cQmXn)

126 Ya sher dats true

Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 26, 2012 07:10 PM (P6QsQ)

127 Huckabee voter = Retarded

Posted by: Arms Merchant at August 26, 2012 07:10 PM (+XVQe)

128 72Either we have free will or we are predestined,can't be both.

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 10:51 PM (6o4Fb)

It depends a lot on what you mean by "free will." If it is not in your nature to choose good, then while you are "free" to choose the choice is always going to be evil. The standard reformed position is that humans are incorrigibly evil* and cannot choose to follow God unless God changes them - i.e., God makes the first move and chooses who to save. This doesn't mean that humans are little robots, just that we are incapable of choosing God on their own.

*(complicated by the fact that since humans are also made in the image of God, they have an inborn sense of right and wrong, however twisted, and are not usually as evil as they could be.)

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 26, 2012 07:10 PM (W79Mp)

129 somebody (forgot where) had their vanity plate rejected because it was:
3M TA3

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 07:11 PM (yYKoR)

130 So, I was amused to find the scandal that gave rise to the "Capitol Steps" while reading about the group.

Apparently the wife of a Democrat congress-critter, of Abscam fame naturally, admitted that they'd had sex on the capital steps...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jenrette

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2012 07:11 PM (AUeaU)

131 wretched formatting...

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 26, 2012 07:11 PM (W79Mp)

132 You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice. If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. (mumble mumble mumble something about phantom fears and kindness that can kill) I will choose a path that's free: I will choose free will. (My apologies to Rush for the bad ~~quote~~ paraphrase)

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 26, 2012 07:12 PM (JMmQ9)

133 129. That will actually get rejected errrwhere now.
It's a well-known joke.
I just saw an article about personalize plate request - rejects the other day.
It was pretty funny.

My license plate when I lived in WY was "69HA."

Not a request.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 26, 2012 07:12 PM (oiTOF)

134 At any good Presbyterian gathering, there will be at least 10 different styles of deviled eggs. Posted by: MrCaniac at August 26, 2012 11:08 PM (1grxW) Good sir, I would love to have some of those recipes. I have only seen one type of deviled egg, based on mayo, mustard and pickle relish. While it is tasty, I am completely open to new and inventive ways to make boiled eggs palatable!!

Posted by: moki at August 26, 2012 07:12 PM (dZmFh)

135 The best plates I've seen in the past few years: Virginia: Y3S OFCR DC: BRSTLVR How the latter made it through the censor I have no clue.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 07:13 PM (yXnZF)

136 101 Fuckabee is trying to frag Mitt and he gets a speaking slot, while Palin is just somebody the reporters will chase for photo ops.

I'd love to see Sarah out in the rain, if you know what I mean

Posted by: kbdabear at August 26, 2012 10:58 PM (wwsoB)

I'd love to see them interview her by the pool, in a bikini.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 26, 2012 07:13 PM (1grxW)

137

"Ron Paul claimed that, had his people been in charge, thousands of victims from the 9/11 attacks would still be alive. "

Ron Paul is sexy.

Posted by: Ms. Madeleine A. at August 26, 2012 07:13 PM (Yfszu)

138 I think, not sure but think, that Calvinist predestination deals with salvation. ie God decided who he would adopt into his family. Free will has more to do with 'to sin, or not to son's instances as you go through life. Armenianism(sp?) believes salvation is a free will decision. I come down on the side of the former but there are good "arguments" for both. I think the Bible comes down on the side of your days being numbered and a number of the leaders of the Revolution, including GW believed that and it lead to many "courageous" actions. What are you going to threaten me with, heaven?

Posted by: teej at August 26, 2012 07:13 PM (M7Cfv)

139 somebody (forgot where) had their vanity plate rejected because it was:
3M TA3
***
See, that's why I hate you Republicans.

Oh damn, gotta run, Mr 11:15 is a few minutes early! Let's hope he can last longer then Mr 10:30.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 26, 2012 07:14 PM (AUeaU)

140 When do you think Armstrong would've considered life began? Conception? The development of a nervous system?

Posted by: Legitimate Rape at August 26, 2012 07:14 PM (tOkJB)

141 Geraldo Cantore disappointed that he won't get to watch Republicans drown, so they moved him to New Orleans now

Posted by: kbdabear at August 26, 2012 07:14 PM (wwsoB)

142 How God gets involved with politics: "So you want a president who will give you free stuff, do you? Well, here you go. "How'd that work out for you?"

Posted by: Mindy administers Rorschach test at August 26, 2012 07:15 PM (601AC)

143 127- Grey Fox!!!! I knew you could explain it well!!!!! How are you doing??

Posted by: moki at August 26, 2012 07:15 PM (dZmFh)

144 128 Huckabee voter = Retarded

Posted by: Arms Merchant at August 26, 2012 11:10 PM (+XVQe)

You talking "Rain Man" or "Forest Gump" retard, or "I Am Sam" full on retard?

Posted by: Kirk Lazarus at August 26, 2012 07:15 PM (1grxW)

145 I saw a GA plate once "DIXNME."

Woke the hubs up to see it, we laughed. It was on a Cadi driven by a blonde woman.

About five miles down the road, we realized her name must have been Dixie and she and her hubs often rode together.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 26, 2012 07:15 PM (oiTOF)

146 "Ron Paul claimed that, had his people been in charge, thousands of victims from the 9/11 attacks would still be alive. "
***
Because the gold coins in their pockets would have kept them safe from an Unidentified Jihadi Object?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2012 07:16 PM (AUeaU)

147 142 continued "Think you might want to make a better choice next time?"

Posted by: Mindy administers Rorschach test at August 26, 2012 07:16 PM (601AC)

148 My good Lutheran mother made her deviled eggs more modern by making them in the normal way, (mayo, no mustard) and adding salt-cured capers as a topping. Like 6-8 per egg. So delicious!

Posted by: kalneva at August 26, 2012 07:16 PM (cQmXn)

149 My license plate when I lived in WY was "69HA."

Not a request.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 26, 2012 11:12 PM (oiTOF)

My WY plate was 4 83 AR

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 07:16 PM (yYKoR)

150 I am okay. Pretty sleepy, though, so I better get to bed soon. I was just waiting a few minutes to see if anyone responded. How are you, and how is your daughter (I believe she was/is ill?)

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 26, 2012 07:17 PM (W79Mp)

151 "Freewill" There are those who think that life has nothing left to chance A host of holy horrors to direct our aimless dance A planet of play things We dance on the strings Of powers we cannot perceive 'The stars aren't aligned Or the gods are malign...' Blame is better to give than receive [Chorus:] You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill I will choose a path that's clear I will choose freewill There are those who think That they were dealt a losing hand The cards were stacked against them They weren't born in Lotusland All preordained A prisoner in chains A victim of venomous fate Kicked in the face You can't pray for a place In heaven's unearthly estate [Chorus] Each of us A cell of awareness Imperfect and incomplete Genetic blends With uncertain ends On a fortune hunt that's far too fleet [Chorus]

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 07:17 PM (6o4Fb)

152 Ya sher dats true

Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 26, 2012 11:10 PM (P6QsQ)

Yah.

Posted by: kalneva at August 26, 2012 07:18 PM (cQmXn)

153 135 The best plates I've seen in the past few years:

Virginia: Y3S OFCR
DC: BRSTLVR

How the latter made it through the censor I have no clue.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 11:13 PM (yXnZF)

Swear to God I saw a plate in WA in '94 that said JIZRAG

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 07:18 PM (yYKoR)

154 149. If you count the County Code, it was 2 69HA.

Not much better.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 26, 2012 07:18 PM (oiTOF)

155
Rorschach's Journal. October 12th, 1985: Dog carcass in alley this morning, tire tread on burst stomach. This city is afraid of me. I have seen its true face. The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

Posted by: Rorschach at August 26, 2012 07:18 PM (AUeaU)

156 Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 11:17 PM (6o4Fb)

one of my Rush faves.

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 07:18 PM (yYKoR)

157 Good evening. Wow, Sven sure is chatty.

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 07:19 PM (HWUv9)

158 153. I don't --- WHY WOULD SOMEONE WANT THAT??

Wait. Where was Fluke living in 94?

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 26, 2012 07:19 PM (oiTOF)

159

If any Morons have missed the vid "Blame it on Bush" here it is. It is damn good music with a point. Don't miss this one and pass it along. OD

http://tinyurl.com/cxwyodn

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 26, 2012 07:20 PM (JKNDp)

160 In FL on a Manatee tag: TSTLKCHK. They pulled it.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at August 26, 2012 07:20 PM (tRJ+w)

161 {writes this down:

Acrylic paint two coats and/or brown paint with iron oxide for the pigment.}

Okay. I'm all set now. I'll be back in a minute, I've got to go to Home Depot.

Posted by: Hylozoic at August 26, 2012 07:20 PM (Vh0f5)

162 I saw a Virginia plate a few years ago that worked out to the following (I don't think it was this exactly but you get my drift and I agree with the sentiment): HTE I95 The fact that people are talking about license plates on my first ONT makes me want to weep.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 07:21 PM (yXnZF)

163 Since I'm gonna be struck down by fire from heaven, can I be on my happy place before that happens? And by happy place, I mean between Christina Hendricks' legs.

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 07:21 PM (HWUv9)

164 150-chronic kidney/bladder disease for my baby. She was supposed to see her specialist this week for further surgery options, but the hurricane is likely going to interfere. But, God is good, and she made it through her first week of school without getting too sick, and actually enjoying it. We are doing pretty well, all things considered. And as someone up thread mentioned, the alternative is heaven, so, why should I be upset or discouraged?!! Sleep well, friend. I hope you have a good week!

Posted by: moki at August 26, 2012 07:21 PM (dZmFh)

165 160. Don't blame them. It's MUCH more turkey-ish.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 26, 2012 07:21 PM (oiTOF)

166 Or maybe we are nothing more than an accident.Life for no other reason than to live,reproduce and die. PLAYBOY: LetÂ’s turn to evolution, which many people misunderstand, such as believing we descend from apes. DAWKINS: We are apes. We descend from extinct animals that would have been classified as apes. We are not descended from modern chimps or bonobos or gorillas. TheyÂ’ve been evolving for exactly the same length of time as we have. PLAYBOY: So what makes us human? DAWKINS: We are a unique ape. We have language. Other animals have systems of communication that fall far short of that. They donÂ’t have the same ability to communicate complicated conditionals and what-ifs and talk about things that are not present. These are all unique manifestations of our evolved ape brain, which some evidence suggests came about through a rather limited number of mutations.

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 07:22 PM (6o4Fb)

167 I have a picture of a VW bus I took in Taft, California that said A HIPPIE

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 07:22 PM (yYKoR)

168 TYVM, steevy

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 26, 2012 07:22 PM (JMmQ9)

169 Neil Armstrong was truly an American hero and I look forward to high-fiving him in Heaven.

Posted by: tc at August 26, 2012 10:24 PM (wb4qc)

Best comment ever.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 26, 2012 07:22 PM (6kWFm)

170 "You know, you bring your gods. We'll bring ours. We'll see whose God answers the prayers and brings fire from heaven." Excellent! A testable hypothesis. If Akin loses, then Huckabee's God is weaker than no God at all.

Posted by: sexypig at August 26, 2012 07:22 PM (dZQh7)

171 161 {writes this down:

Acrylic paint two coats and/or brown paint with iron oxide for the pigment.}

Okay. I'm all set now. I'll be back in a minute, I've got to go to Home Depot.

Posted by: Hylozoic at August 26, 2012 11:20 PM (Vh0f5)

Add a cup of lead powder to the paint too, and mix it well.

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 07:23 PM (yYKoR)

172 Neal Peart who wrote Free Will and much else by Rush was an Ayn Rand fan and a libertarian.Not sure he bought into Rand's atheism though,he certainly doesn't now days.

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 07:24 PM (6o4Fb)

173 I didn't know Johnny Cash was a hundred years old when he escaped.

Posted by: Craig Poe at August 26, 2012 07:24 PM (BVkEs)

174 Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 11:22 PM (6o4Fb) FREE! FREE AT LAST!!!!!

Posted by: Can of worms at August 26, 2012 07:24 PM (HWUv9)

175 #130

Ah, Rita Jenrette. Remember her from Playboy.

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 07:25 PM (kcfmt)

176 Wow, Sven sure is chatty.

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 11:19 PM (HWUv9)

Have you ever seen him not so?

159

I second. That was awesome! So glad to see some talent coming out from the conservative side. We are always so busy doing shit that actually matters, it's not often the creativity comes out. Now it matters, and the creativity is coming out. The fucktarded have had a headstart, what with the "no jobs" thing.

Posted by: kalneva at August 26, 2012 07:25 PM (cQmXn)

177 Alright morons, make me laugh. Got home an hour ago after being at the er with my mom since 0330 and i'm too fucking over tired to sleep. CHEER ME UP DAMMIT

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 07:25 PM (oRNrC)

178
Good sir, I would love to have some of those recipes. I have only seen one type of deviled egg, based on mayo, mustard and pickle relish. While it is tasty, I am completely open to new and inventive ways to make boiled eggs palatable!!

Posted by: moki at August 26, 2012 11:12 PM (dZmFh)

Do what MrsCaniac does, she sweet talks all the little old ladies into giving up their recipes. These little old ladies just love her and hug all over her. They probably feel sorry for her being married to me.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 26, 2012 07:26 PM (1grxW)

179 Or maybe we are nothing more than an accident.Life for no other reason than to live,reproduce and die. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt84uBuGKNk

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 26, 2012 07:26 PM (sZTYJ)

180 Jeez, I bought a few Circus mags when Thick As A Brick came out. Fun times. Fun stupid sex crazed times. And then reality started to set in.

Posted by: Corona at August 26, 2012 07:26 PM (fh2Y7)

181 Have you ever seen him not so? Posted by: kalneva at August 26, 2012 11:25 PM (cQmXn) ....gimme a minute here...

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 07:26 PM (HWUv9)

182 I heard a joke once: Man goes to doctor. Says he's depressed. Says life is harsh and cruel. Says he feels all alone in a threatening world. Doctor says, "Treatment is simple. The great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight. Go see him. That should pick you up." Man bursts into tears. Says, "But doctor... I am Pagliacci." Good joke. Everybody laugh. Roll on snare drum. Curtains.

Posted by: Rorschach at August 26, 2012 07:27 PM (AUeaU)

183 Gushka, how is your pony? I haven't been able to catch up about the poor pony you were concerned you'd have to put down. But I'm happy to read about all of your kitties. Is Soot doing OK? And Y-not, how is Y-not the Younger? If he is ever in the DC/Northern Virginia area I'd be proud to buy him multiple beverages.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 07:27 PM (yXnZF)

184 Toward the beginning of the interview, Dawkins was asked to weigh in and explain why, in the past, he has called himself a Â“tooth faithÂ” agnostic. His explanation essentially frames his overarching views on GodÂ’s existence. HereÂ’s how the dialogue unfolded: PLAYBOY: YouÂ’ve described yourself as a Â“tooth fairyÂ” agnostic. What is that? DAWKINS: Rather than say heÂ’s an atheist, a friend of mine says, Â“IÂ’m a tooth fairy agnostic,Â” meaning he canÂ’t disprove God but thinks God is about as likely as the tooth fairy. PLAYBOY: So you donÂ’t completely rule out the idea of a supreme being. Critics see that as leaving an opening. DAWKINS: You can think so, if you think thereÂ’s an opening for the tooth fairy.

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 07:27 PM (6o4Fb)

185 When the Man Comes Around.....

Posted by: Johnny Cash on the Moon at August 26, 2012 07:27 PM (BVkEs)

186 holy cow....clint black just followed me on twitter.....i think i feel faint

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny & team armstrong at August 26, 2012 07:28 PM (Ho2rs)

187 #140

As he was an engineer, his answer would likely be "about 3 billion years ago on this planet. We don't know enough to say about other places."

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 07:28 PM (kcfmt)

188 Add a cup of lead powder to the paint too, and mix it well.

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 11:23 PM (yYKoR)

And if you are a troll like curious, taste a sample.

Posted by: JimboHoffa at August 26, 2012 07:28 PM (dAfqy)

189 CHEER ME UP DAMMIT Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 11:25 PM (oRNrC) Paul Ryan flexing his muscles and Barack Obama losing in a landslide.

Posted by: Robert brings the happy thoughts at August 26, 2012 07:28 PM (HWUv9)

190 Did y'all know that on the Apollo 11mission Buzz Aldrin took Holy Communion on the moon?

Story here:

http://www.ericmetaxas.com/tag/aldrin/

Posted by: Legitimate Rape at August 26, 2012 07:28 PM (tOkJB)

191 Hey this is cool.

Posted by: 性感的豬 at August 26, 2012 07:28 PM (dZQh7)

192 189 CHEER ME UP DAMMIT
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 11:25 PM (oRNrC)

Um, we're tied in Ohio?

Posted by: AD at August 26, 2012 07:29 PM (wMUiZ)

193 "to sin or not to sin". That right there is why I try to stay away from longish posts on this phone. And Grey Fox nailed it on "can't choose God till he changes your heart". I do feel this is what the Bible teaches but don't ask for chapters and verses. Too much typing and I haven't cracked that book in over eight years.

Posted by: teej at August 26, 2012 07:29 PM (JCIjD)

194

Excellent! A testable hypothesis.

If Akin loses, then Huckabee's God is weaker than no God at all.

That assumes that Huckabee speaks with the voice of God as a true prophet. Personally, I suspect that Huckabee might want to re-read the part of the Bible about not putting God to the test. "He is not a tame lion..."

Goodnight, Moki! I am glad your daughter's first week of school went well. I'l say a prayer for her tonight.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 26, 2012 07:29 PM (W79Mp)

195 hey bebes!!! long time no see......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny & team armstrong at August 26, 2012 07:29 PM (Ho2rs)

196 Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 11:22 PM (6o4Fb) Dawkins is correct. We are evolved from apes and in fact still are apes. What we do with this knowledge is a test we are facing now, as a species.

Posted by: eman at August 26, 2012 07:29 PM (Wp4rQ)

197 There is a classic video clip of Breitbart talking about the need to stick together in order to beat Obama. Someone should post it and dedicate it to Huckabee and his boyfriend Akin.
Playing the Old Testament card? Sheeeesh

Posted by: elliot m at August 26, 2012 07:29 PM (zPich)

198 177 Alright morons, make me laugh. Got home an hour ago after being at the er with my mom since 0330 and i'm too fucking over tired to sleep. CHEER ME UP DAMMIT

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 11:25 PM (oRNrC)

Whitney Houston is still dead.

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 07:30 PM (yYKoR)

199 Koreans have their own 25 letter alphabet. They do not use Chinese or Japanese characters in it.

Posted by: Bill R. at August 26, 2012 11:02 PM (QnRSM)

Not anymore but they used to as did the Vietnamese.

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 26, 2012 07:30 PM (xROTy)

200 Paul Ryan flexing his muscles and Barack Obama losing in a landslide. Posted by: Robert brings the happy thoughts Those are some happy thoughts alright!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 07:30 PM (oRNrC)

201 170. I forgot to tell you... Ryan Gosling or Christina Hendricks, depending on your gender, is going to show up at your boudoir tonight naked holding a bottle of Dom.

If that doesn't happen, I guess we just have to assume those two people don't exist.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 26, 2012 07:30 PM (oiTOF)

202

San Francisco is not what you think it is.....

It's increasingly a city of retired White people and non-young Asians. Since we lived there in the 70s, the Obama's Son percentage of the pop has been halved ( from 12 to 6 % )

It has the smallest percentage of children of any American city. Clement Street, which was funky and Cali-hip back in The Day, is cluttered with elderly Chinese people wandering aimlessly along the dingy sidewalks

The old White 'elites', secure in their huge houses in Pacific Heights, send their kids to private schools and do not mix with the Others. The house you see early in 'Bullitt' ( where Steve McQ meets the evil White guy ) is gone, replaced with a private school ( 2700 Jackson Street )

The freaks are tolerated because the local elites, all the retired White civil servants on fat pensions, and the wandering Chinese ignore / do not see them

a sad, declining, crazy place--like a menopausal MadWoman, schizo and rambling but still a Looker

Posted by: Pete in St. Pete at August 26, 2012 07:30 PM (Dll6b)

203 Hey this is cool. Posted by: 性感的豬 at August 26, 2012 11:28 PM (dZQh7) Rawr!

Posted by: Kermit the Frog at August 26, 2012 07:31 PM (sZTYJ)

204 Godspeed Neil Armstrong. You were one of my heroes. Pocket protector, slide rule and balls of steel. May you rest, and by rest I mean tear ass in the heavens with one hand on the throttle and the other controlling the pitch, yaw and roll.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at August 26, 2012 07:31 PM (pUqSw)

205 Bebe,

Knock knock?

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 26, 2012 07:31 PM (oiTOF)

206 Phoenixgirl, Clint Black's the one who should feel faint!

Posted by: kalneva at August 26, 2012 07:31 PM (cQmXn)

207 "Huckabee is making the grave error of equating opposition to Akin staying in the race with opposition the pro-life position. The two are not the same, and for him to frame the issue that way puts people who are actually on the same side at odds with each other . " Exactly. Like there is no other pro-life Christian candidate in Missouri? Also as De Gaulle said "The graveyards are full of indispensable men."

Posted by: 性感的豬 at August 26, 2012 07:31 PM (dZQh7)

208 bebe-I probably can't make you laugh, but I sure hope everything is okay with your mom. Did I mention that condoms were also running low in Fl Panhandle stores, after beer and gas?

Posted by: moki at August 26, 2012 07:32 PM (dZmFh)

209 hey bebes!!! long time no see...... Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny & team armstrong Yep. Meat space is sucking whale dick.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 07:32 PM (oRNrC)

210 CHEER ME UP DAMMIT Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 11:25 PM (oRNrC) Bebe's, you're wonderful and as a long-time lurker I think you're fantastic! (As I hope I correctly copied a previous post.)

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 07:32 PM (yXnZF)

211 Both Chuck Yeager and Neil Armstrong are heroes of aviation...While Chuck Yeager is most remembered for breaking the sound barrier in the Bell X-1, he was also a WWII Ace who shot down five german fighters in one flight. IIRC, he was himself shot-down and made his way back to England with the help of the French underground. Yeager continued to set aviation records and has provided inspiration to millions throughout his career and life. He was still flying P-51s in recent years as I saw him on more than one occasion fly with wingman Bud Anderson at the annual Oshkosh air-venture. While Chuck embodies the classic image of the fighter pilot, Neil Armstrong appears to have been his opposite in that he was the introverted flying engineer. Neil Armstrong appears to have had all of the ability and accomplishment without the grandiose personality of Yeager. Both men are/were national treasures. Godbless them both, and Godspeed to Neil Armstrong.

Posted by: Brian "Scoop" Ross at August 26, 2012 07:32 PM (eMrck)

212 Did I mention that condoms were also running low in Fl Panhandle stores, after beer and gas? Posted by: moki at August 26, 2012 11:32 PM (dZmFh) I didn't know that Sandra Fluke was in the vicinity of the Florida panhandle...

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 26, 2012 07:33 PM (sZTYJ)

213 Meat space is sucking whale dick. Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 11:32 PM (oRNrC) Don't knock it 'til you try it.

Posted by: Some Japanese Gourmand at August 26, 2012 07:33 PM (HWUv9)

214
I have only seen one type of deviled egg, based on mayo, mustard and pickle relish.

No, it's mayo, mustard and vinegar. With a bit of paprika sprinkled on top. Egg-cellent!

Posted by: Legitimate Rape at August 26, 2012 07:33 PM (tOkJB)

215 That's one small step for (a) pig, One giant squeal for ManBearPig.

The Moon is pollutin' the Ocean.

I'm serial.

Posted by: Al Gorged at August 26, 2012 07:33 PM (BVkEs)

216 Free will, it's a bitch.

Posted by: The Devil's Advocate at August 26, 2012 07:33 PM (l3vZN)

217 People "of color" must stand together or something.Orange douchebag. ormer Florida governor and ex-Republican Charlie Crist endorsed President Barack Obama on Sunday, calling him Â“the right leader for our times.Â” Â“I applaud and share his vision of a future built by a strong and confident middle class in an economy that gives us the opportunity to reap prosperity through hard work and personal responsibility,Â” Crist wrote in a Tampa Bay Times op-ed on the eve of the Republican National Convention.

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 07:33 PM (6o4Fb)

218 Posted by: Cathy in The Chi Who's there?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 07:33 PM (oRNrC)

219 Aaaaannnnnddddd time to get ready for woik. Catch ya'll later.

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 07:33 PM (HWUv9)

220 ((((bebes)))))

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny & team armstrong at August 26, 2012 07:33 PM (Ho2rs)

221 Huckabee is showing his true nature. He is not a servant of God. He uses belief in God to serve his own interests. I am not a Christian, but I have deep respect for Christians like moki and Grey Fox. Huckabee not so much.

Posted by: eman at August 26, 2012 07:34 PM (Wp4rQ)

222 Meat space is sucking whale dick. Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 11:32 PM (oRNrC) Don't knock it 'til you try it. Posted by: Some Japanese Gourmand at August 26, 2012 11:33 PM (HWUv9) What type of whale and how big are we talking about here?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 26, 2012 07:34 PM (sZTYJ)

223 214.

Um, hi. Have we met?

Posted by: Bacon at August 26, 2012 07:34 PM (oiTOF)

224 condoms were also running low in Fl Panhandle stores Bwaahhh, people making sure they have something to do when the electricity goes?!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 07:35 PM (oRNrC)

225 Bebe,

Control Freak.

And now you say, "Control Freak who?"

Posted by: Bacon at August 26, 2012 07:35 PM (oiTOF)

226 I'm off to take a short but sweet cruise on the Kawasaki...because it's there, teasing me to do it...

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 07:35 PM (yYKoR)

227 huckabee and 'paul both worship themselves

Posted by: thunderb at August 26, 2012 07:35 PM (Dnbau)

228 Bill Kristol with an unusually good article;

http://tinyurl.com/8je2wbj

Everyone knows that the American people canÂ’t understand a debate about abstractions like the national debt, entitlements, Obamacare, and sound money. Except that 2010 was the biggest Republican victory in decades, and came as Tea Party-inspired GOP candidates focused on these issues even as most voters still blamed a Republican, George W. Bush, for the weak economy.

Everyone knows that social issues are death for Republicans. Except that traditional marriage wins in states where Republican presidential candidates lose, and except that surveys show that Americans would prefer that abortions be rare and not performed on children partially born or almost ready to be born, and except that Americans care that religious liberty be protected and not curbed.

Posted by: Rorschach at August 26, 2012 07:36 PM (AUeaU)

229 What type of whale and how big are we talking about here? I believe the sperm whale is the largest mammal on the planet. Which makes it doubley up your alley.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 07:37 PM (oRNrC)

230

Well, the Rush song "Free Will" was based on their enthusiasm for Ayn Rand, at that time. I like her writing and her inspiration to live as free, rational men, but there are limits to what I accept of her thoughts and values. She also believed strongly in the right to abortion, and was an atheist. Although she was not one of the mean types of atheists that constantly mocked believers, although she mocked rigid beliefs.

Like IBM, her motto was "Think!". Think for yourself.

So do we have free will? In the limits of our lives in a visible three-dimensional world moving through the fourth dimension of time in a linear fashion, we do, at times, appear to have free will. Choices. An unknown future. Don't we?

But if you are a believing Christian, and believe that the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ redeemed you from sin, then the Grace offered is stronger than any choice that you make or free will that you think you have. Isn't it?

I believe that God has a plan for all of us, individually. We can either get with the plan or refuse, but we are fated nonetheless. This life on Earth is a hard lesson in certain spiritual ways, and some people make it very hard on themselves by turning their back on God, when they should know better. I know I have, and have made a bitter mess out of my life at times.

Forget those fools Huckabee or Akin, because they are self-important fools. They show no personal signs of grace or humility, only the preening pride that they have some special dispensation to act self -righteously.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch (fake Internet person) writes..... at August 26, 2012 07:37 PM (sJTmU)

231 Thanks Lurk. control freak who?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 07:38 PM (oRNrC)

232

221

My sentiments, exactly. I am Christian, (not the kind that is exemplary, unfortunately) and he is so offensive to me. There is something just not right. I think anyone who is honest with him/herself can see the fakitude. Smarmy!

Posted by: kalneva at August 26, 2012 07:38 PM (cQmXn)

233 You know if we are sticking with this Old Testament prophet meme, does God want me to rally round a simpleton? A doofuss like Akin?

Posted by: elliot m at August 26, 2012 07:38 PM (zPich)

234 I believe the sperm whale is the largest mammal on the planet. Which makes it doubley up your alley.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 11:37 PM (oRNrC)

Blue Whale is the largest. I think the sperm whale is the largest toothed whale though.

Posted by: buzzion at August 26, 2012 07:39 PM (GULKT)

235 231. Haha, that's the joke, BBD.

Posted by: Bacon at August 26, 2012 07:40 PM (oiTOF)

236 208 bebe-I probably can't make you laugh, but I sure hope everything is okay with your mom.

Did I mention that condoms were also running low in Fl Panhandle stores, after beer and gas?

Posted by: moki at August 26, 2012 11:32 PM (dZmFh)

There's gonna be some happy women in the Florida panhandle after this storm!

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 26, 2012 07:40 PM (1grxW)

237 I didn't know that Sandra Fluke was in the vicinity of the Florida panhandle... Posted by: The Political Hat LOL!!!! eman-thanks, but I sure don't deserve it. I am at heart a mean nasty person, but for the Grace of God. Grey Fox is amazing. And the good people of this blog, and the many precious friends I have met in my journey on this earth have carried me and my family through on prayer. But thank you for your really kind words! Bebe-I have no idea, but I guess so. I will be open and state that condoms were not on my personal list for hurricane supplies, but then, i have frequent headaches and insomnia....

Posted by: moki at August 26, 2012 07:40 PM (dZmFh)

238 235. Off, delicious sock.

Posted by: Cathy in the Chi at August 26, 2012 07:41 PM (oiTOF)

239 Haha, that's the joke, BBD lol

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 07:41 PM (oRNrC)

240 Who in the name of Hell has given Fucknutabee the role of "spokesman" for the consciousness of the GOP? I tired to read his bio a few years back and couldn't make it past the third chapter, it was so painfully obvious that he is RINO (makes McCain look like a mangina). He's nothing but another Charlie (fake bake) Crist. Fucknut needs to be glad that he has a 5 minute blurb on the radio in the AM here in the PDX area, where he can "reach out" to the libs and show them that he is so compassionate and forgiving.

Posted by: Mjölnir, the Banhammer from Hell at August 26, 2012 07:41 PM (6hQsR)

241 model_1066

I'm having trouble reading between the lines. (it comes from not owning a calculator when I was in school I think)

Explain to me the first license tag 3M ta3.

I - don't - get - it.

Posted by: Hylozoic at August 26, 2012 07:41 PM (Vh0f5)

242 Blue Whale is the largest. I think the sperm whale is the largest toothed whale though. Posted by: buzzion at August 26, 2012 11:39 PM (GULKT) Yeah, but the Vagina Whale is the most elusive and cunning.

Posted by: eman at August 26, 2012 07:41 PM (Wp4rQ)

243 I Graduated from the University of Cincinnat in 76. I'm not really sure when Armstrong started his tenure there and our paths never crossed. I read he liked to drive an old pickup truck. He was a test pilot, astronaut, went to the moon and still managed to take one of his fingers of by slaming it in his pickup. It's been a while since I read that story.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 26, 2012 07:42 PM (JKNDp)

244

We're you like Obama watching the splash downs from on top of your grandfathers shoulders while you were actually living in Indonesia?

Is there any major historical event that Obama can't paint himself into in one way or another? What a maroon.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 26, 2012 07:43 PM (DoZD+)

245 There's gonna be some happy women in the Florida panhandle after this storm! Posted by: MrCaniac You obviously missed the story about the women receiving splooge deposits being happier.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 07:43 PM (oRNrC)

246 244. The Forrest Gump of Presidents...

Posted by: Cathy in the Chi at August 26, 2012 07:44 PM (oiTOF)

247 ""Is there any major historical event that Obama can't paint himself into in one way or another?""

No, because he is a narcissist piece of shit.

Posted by: Berserker at August 26, 2012 07:44 PM (FMbng)

248 177
Alright morons, make me laugh. Got home an hour ago after being at the
er with my mom since 0330 and i'm too fucking over tired to sleep.
CHEER ME UP DAMMIT

Ted Kennedy hasn't had a drink in 3 years.

Posted by: Hylozoic at August 26, 2012 07:45 PM (Vh0f5)

249 The Florida Panhandle does indeed have a huge PNS.

Posted by: Cathy in the Chi at August 26, 2012 07:45 PM (oiTOF)

250 the Dutch Reformed Church believed in predestination--maybe still does

Posted by: Flo in Florida at August 26, 2012 07:45 PM (Dll6b)

251 Test Pilots. Some are, some aren't. That's just the way it is. No amount of education, government intervention or late night study will change that. Some can feel their aircraft. Some can't. It's just the way it is.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 26, 2012 07:46 PM (Pt7IS)

252 Ted Kennedy hasn't had a drink in 3 years. Posted by: Hylozoic at August 26, 2012 11:45 PM (Vh0f5) Well, nothing on the rocks.

Posted by: eman at August 26, 2012 07:46 PM (Wp4rQ)

253 I - don't - get - it. Posted by: Hylozoic at August 26, 2012 11:41 PM you are not alone

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 26, 2012 07:47 PM (JMmQ9)

254 Alright morons, make me laugh. Got home an hour ago after being at the er with my mom since 0330 and i'm too fucking over tired to sleep. CHEER ME UP DAMMIT

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 11:25 PM (oRNrC)

I hope your mom's OK. Been there, and it was scary.

Posted by: kalneva at August 26, 2012 07:48 PM (cQmXn)

255 3M TA3 spells "EAT ME" in the ole rearview...

Posted by: Cathy in the Chi at August 26, 2012 07:48 PM (oiTOF)

256 243 I Graduated from the University of Cincinnat in 76. I'm not really sure when Armstrong started his tenure there and our paths never crossed. I read he liked to drive an old pickup truck. He was a test pilot, astronaut, went to the moon and still managed to take one of his fingers of by slaming it in his pickup. It's been a while since I read that story.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 26, 2012 11:42 PM (JKNDp)

His pickup would have been easy to spot, it was the one with the huge set of balls in the bed.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 26, 2012 07:49 PM (1grxW)

257

Ohio Dan

Neil started teaching at UC in 1972, I think. I walked by his office in winter of 1974 (I and my buds were all thinking about going to UC). I think his office was in MacMillan Hall. So if you weren't in engineering, you probably didn't see it.

He actually didn't live too far from you, as I think I have a pretty good idea where you live, and where he lived. But he was a quiet and private man, so probably only his closest neighbors knew he was there.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch (fake Internet person) writes..... at August 26, 2012 07:49 PM (sJTmU)

258

"There's gonna be some happy women in the Florida panhandle after this storm!"

Why will Paul Ryan be there flexing his muscles? Not that I care.

Posted by: Ms. Madeleine A. at August 26, 2012 07:49 PM (Yfszu)

259 Ted Kennedy hasn't had a drink in 3 years. ok, that one made me laugh out loud

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 07:50 PM (oRNrC)

260 245 There's gonna be some happy women in the Florida panhandle after this storm!
Posted by: MrCaniac

You obviously missed the story about the women receiving splooge deposits being happier.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 11:43 PM (oRNrC)

Since they are running out of rubbers, the panhandle women will be getting a lot of baby batter.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 26, 2012 07:50 PM (1grxW)

261 Me, neither. I don't even know what you're talking about.

Posted by: kalneva at August 26, 2012 07:51 PM (cQmXn)

262 Or was that McMicken Hall? It's been years since I've been on the UC campus.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch (fake Internet person) writes..... at August 26, 2012 07:51 PM (sJTmU)

263 thanks Kal. There will probably be no happy ending here long term. She refuses to do so some very simple things to take care of herself, and keeps suffering increasingly serious uti's as a side note to her uterine cancer.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 07:52 PM (oRNrC)

264 Good night all, be safe and have a great week!

Posted by: moki at August 26, 2012 07:53 PM (dZmFh)

265 Soon companies will be sending people and robots to the Moon. Perhaps a Moron Probe could be sent. It would draw huge punctuation mark boobehs and sketch out a kitteh.

Posted by: eman at August 26, 2012 07:53 PM (Wp4rQ)

266 night moki

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 07:54 PM (oRNrC)

267 You are right I'm sure C.J. but I've just gotten to the point that I feel he has turned his back on me too many times and can't understand why. Hence the eight years. I still do my best to live the golden rule and the few close friends I have are all Christians but I do not go to worship or crack the book. Not until I feel safe thanking him for my friends lest he take them away from me. Or ask him to bless without fearing he'll turn around and rain "fire and brimstone" on them.

Posted by: teej at August 26, 2012 07:55 PM (cWpCn)

268 Last December, Ermey Â— also known as Â“GunneyÂ” Â— made headlines by blasting the economy and linking Obama to socialism: But the plot thickened in January when Ermey came out and apologized, drawing the ire of some of his fans. And now, despite that apology, Ermey says GEICO fired him because of the statements. Ermey had played a psychiatrist in a GEICO commercial and famously called his Â“patientÂ” a Â“jackwagon.Â” When TMZ recently asked him about it, he said Â“GEICO fired me because I hadÂ– I wasnÂ’t too kind about speaking with theÂ– about the administration, soÂ– the present administration Â— so they fired me.Â” Â“So they fired you because of political reasons?Â” asked TMZ. Â“Yeah,Â” he answered. Â“If youÂ’re a conservative in this town, you better watch out.Â”

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 07:55 PM (6o4Fb)

269 Night Moki.

Posted by: Cathy in the Chi at August 26, 2012 07:56 PM (oiTOF)

270 OH good Bebe's hero ==

Glad I could help.

Posted by: Hylozoic at August 26, 2012 07:56 PM (Vh0f5)

271 Are we sure Huckabee didn't climb out of a well?

Posted by: Fritz at August 26, 2012 07:57 PM (RuVpG)

272 it took me a while to hit me fully.

Wha? As I say ... an IQ of 84. MAXIMUM. This retard cannot speak English. Even Indonesians laugh at English like this. WTFFF?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 26, 2012 07:57 PM (X3lox)

273 He may have been cast out of a swine or two.

Posted by: Hylozoic at August 26, 2012 07:57 PM (Vh0f5)

274

263

So sorry to hear that. Must suck. I can see why you would seek solace in the Horde. Wish I knew you more so my empathy would seem more legit.

Posted by: kalneva at August 26, 2012 07:58 PM (cQmXn)

275 OK, I'm out tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 26, 2012 07:58 PM (JMmQ9)

276 275. Me too.

Night all!

Posted by: Cathy in the Chi at August 26, 2012 07:59 PM (oiTOF)

277 BTW my dad is taking chemo.Just started taking the pills last week.The surgery was too risky so they decided to try and shrink it this way first.

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2012 07:59 PM (6o4Fb)

278 It's McMicken. I wasn't in the engineering program though after I graduated I took a psychological profile test for a job and was told I should have been. UC made a point of steering military guys into a bullshit business program. I do believe they may have been more interested in getting lots of those GI benefit dollars than worrying about placement according to your skill and aptitude. Whoduhthunkit?

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 26, 2012 08:00 PM (JKNDp)

279 #265

Chairface Chippendale beat us to it.

CHA

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 08:01 PM (kcfmt)

280 Boobehs.....IN SPACE! That's...one small step for a moron. One giant leap....for moronkind.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 26, 2012 08:01 PM (Pt7IS)

281 I really don't know if women have any magical powers against Sperm Whales.

Posted by: Todd Akin at August 26, 2012 08:01 PM (l3vZN)

282 Steevy, I hope all goes well!

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 08:01 PM (yXnZF)

283 But one does not typically use the character "de" from Chinese in Japanese in that manner. So it looks like it's Chinese.

Posted by: Hobojerky at August 26, 2012 08:02 PM (MrM2k)

284 It's past my bed time too. And need to start on the job hunting tomorrow and friends daughter's 8th grade grad party tomorrow night. Love each other fellow babies.

Posted by: teej at August 26, 2012 08:02 PM (cWpCn)

285 政治的な帽子 Like that.

Posted by: Hobojerky at August 26, 2012 08:03 PM (MrM2k)

286 Bed for me, too. Love you 'rons. Long time.

Posted by: kalneva at August 26, 2012 08:04 PM (cQmXn)

287 teej, sounds like you've been through some tough times.

Posted by: Mindy at August 26, 2012 08:04 PM (601AC)

288 Good luck, teej! I'm sorry you got bumped (it happened to my mom was I was a kid) so I hope it works out well for you!

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 08:05 PM (yXnZF)

289 Armstrong, Aldrin and John Bassilone were the top three baddest ass Americans of the 20th Century, just my opinion.

Posted by: DanInMN at August 26, 2012 08:08 PM (lDzzg)

290 183 Gushka, how is your pony? I haven't been able to catch up about the poor pony you were concerned you'd have to put down. But I'm happy to read about all of your kitties. Is Soot doing OK?

And Y-not, how is Y-not the Younger? If he is ever in the DC/Northern Virginia area I'd be proud to buy him multiple beverages.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 11:27 PM (yXnZF)

the sick horse is much improved, i have hope for him.

Sadly soot died. we could not save her. the rest of her brothers and sisters are doing quite well, however. they are keeping poor sick uncle Horse company and the mommies are nursing the babies in his stall watched over by him, like he was the proud papa of them all. It is quite cute.

so you win some lose some. i win more than i lose. SO i am content tonight. In other news, i did something dumb and now my sciatica is pinched. OW OW FUCK! FUCKITY OW! FUCKITY FUCK!

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 26, 2012 08:08 PM (r7Ddb)

291 Hola M and M's

Posted by: zeera at August 26, 2012 08:09 PM (XtxRN)

292

teej

I know life is hard, and it seems unfair some times. Downright cruel. You think that belief will shield you, but it will not. Bad things happen, and we wonder why. Why me? What did I do to deserve this? Why God? Why?

My wife's uncle passed away some years ago, and the funeral was on Christmas Eve. We went to a funeral on Christmas Eve morning. The Catholic Priest (I am not a Catholic, my wife and her Italian family are) gave one of the most uplifting and inspiring homilies on life and meaning and most of all about love that I have ever heard. My wife's uncle had never had much materially in life, had raised five kids and been poor most of the time. He was kind of a doofus, but his treasure that he put away wasn't the kind that we all measure as success on Earth. He was a gentle, kind and spiritual man, much loved by his kids and grandkids.

He died in a lot of pain, from cancer. Why did God do this to him, this gentle and kind man who was so much beloved? It happened, and it is a lesson to all of us in accepting life as it is given, and not shutting down your heart to pain and loss. Our vanity and pride prevent us from sometimes seeing and doing what God wants us to do, rather than doing what we want to do.

Only you can find what your heart tells you. We are all hurt, just don't close down your heart to those that love you and despite what you may think is unjust, that God does love you and wants what is best for you. Hard to accept sometimes, very hard.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch (fake Internet person) writes..... at August 26, 2012 08:09 PM (sJTmU)

293 BTW my dad is taking chemo

See if you can get him to do acupuncture to counter the side effects.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 08:11 PM (oRNrC)

294 Obama salutes Neil Armstrong....by releasing a photo of himself gazing at a (coincidentally, I'm sure) crescent moon. http://weaselzippers.us/2012/08/26/obama-remembers-neil-armstrong-by-posting-a-picture-of-himself/

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at August 26, 2012 08:11 PM (yJYwC)

295 Damn, Johnny Cash looked like he was 50 when he was 27.

Posted by: booger at August 26, 2012 08:12 PM (HI6wa)

296 {{{{{Gushka}}}} Oh, I am so sorry about Soot! For yourself: Heating pad? Chiropractor who knows active release therapy?

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 08:12 PM (yXnZF)

297

"I am, and ever will be, a white-socks, pocket-protector, nerdy engineer, born under the second law of thermodynamics, steeped in steam tables, in love with free-body diagrams, transformed by Laplace and propelled by compressible flow."

Excellent timing, for me. Princess Optimizer starts her 2nd year of engineering school in a few hours.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 08:12 PM (As94z)

298

"When the jury was polled by the incredulous judge, Carter was the only juror who recorded his vote as guilty. As one of the others put it, "He wouldn't of been much of a man if he hadn't shot them fellows.""

But . . . but . . .
"An armed society is a polite society."

No:
An armed society is an armed society.
A polite society is a polite society.
An armed and polite society is an armed and polite society.
An armed and jerkoff and viciously vengeful society is an armed and jerkoff and viciously vengeful society.

Here's a hint:
Street gangs are heavily armed. Would you say they are polite?
Islamic families/clans/tribes in Africa, the Middle East, and Asia are heavily. Would you say they are polite?
Then why do you assume giving arms to someone else will spontaneously turn them into proper gentlemen, taking their tea precisely on time, and never raising their voices to each other, or saying the least unpleasant thing to one another?
Is it active stupidity and bigotry, believing that Americans are somehow immune to being violent jerks despite knowing our history, or passive ignorance and stupidity being completely unaware of said long history of feuds and dueling and the like?

Posted by: Sam at August 26, 2012 08:12 PM (6VSdJ)

299 I wonder if there's a T-shirt you can get, with Armstrong's quote n it.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 08:13 PM (As94z)

300 This is the WTF?!?!? Presidency. Those who say that we can afford another term of this idiocy is certifiable.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at August 26, 2012 08:14 PM (yJYwC)

301 Ok, eyelids finally getting heavy. Going to try to sleep. If its just my brain psyching me out, I'll be back.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 26, 2012 08:15 PM (oRNrC)

302 Good night, Bebe's!

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 08:16 PM (yXnZF)

303 Why the harshin' on MN's loony plates? Ugly? (points to Iowa)

Posted by: zeera at August 26, 2012 08:18 PM (XtxRN)

304 Someone, somewhere, once said that seeing Huckabee grinnin' and pickin' on the guitar reminded him of Deliverance.

Amen, bro.

Posted by: Banjo Guy at August 26, 2012 08:19 PM (41zfH)

305 For Bebe: Three drunk guys are sitting behind a couple of nuns at a football game (whose habits partially blocked the view). In an effort to get the nuns to move, the men decided to badger them. In a very loud voice, the first guy said, "I think I'm going to move to Utah, I heard there are only 100 nuns living there." The Second Guy spoke up and said, "I want to go to Montana, there are only 50 nuns there." The Third Guy said, "Well, I want to go to Idaho, they say there are only 25 Nuns living there." At that, one of the nuns turned around, looked at the men, and in a very sweet, calm voice said, "Why don't you all go to hell. You won't find any nuns there."

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 26, 2012 08:20 PM (5J54Q)

306 "Street gangs are heavily armed. Would you say they are polite?" They are polite to each other member of their group ... "disrespect" is to be avoided, it is a big problem. "Islamicfamilies/clans/tribesin Africa, the Middle East, and Asia are heavily. Would you say they are polite?" They too, are polite to each other member of their group.

Posted by: Arbalest at August 26, 2012 08:20 PM (gwJnj)

307 "That's kind of where I'm praying: that there will be fire from heaven, and we'll see it clearly, and everyone else will to.'" Uhhh-huuh. My guess is that fire coming would be one thing, seeing clearly another.

Posted by: A. at August 26, 2012 08:21 PM (xFI09)

308 The first picture above was taken in the LEM on the Moon by Buzz Aldrin, after being in space and the same clothes for five days, and the LEM had moondust all over the inside from their suits. If you've ever seen a schematic of the LEM, they flew standing up, and there was not much room for two men to lay down and sleep. He and Aldrin were exhausted by this time.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch (fake Internet person) writes..... at August 26, 2012 08:22 PM (sJTmU)

309 just goes to show you can't judge a book by its cover...but wow, i didn't think he was THAT ugly, geez! Posted by: jimi ray

Do you put effort into being a obvious asshole or is this some Asperger thing?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 26, 2012 08:23 PM (Q/1Jp)

310 Sam, you could always ask a Creek or Delaware, O wait

Posted by: Jean at August 26, 2012 08:23 PM (46qC3)

311 Anyone notice the "Palm and Crescent" on the S.C. license plate? Isn't that a Muslim insignia? How did that get on a S. C. plate?

Posted by: Cajun cowboy at August 26, 2012 08:25 PM (E7i+5)

312 302 neil armstrong was REALLY unattractive!!!!

he looks like a greasy, low-class punk in that first picture!!!! wow!!!!!

just goes to show you can't judge a book by its cover...but wow, i didn't think he was THAT ugly, geez!

Posted by: jimi ray at August 27, 2012 12:16 AM (79EF9)

[face palm]

Yeah let's see how you look after spending 4 days without a shower in a tin can on the way to the moon.

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 26, 2012 08:25 PM (xROTy)

313 307, Arabs tend to be polite when your in a track, with CAS on station

Posted by: Jean at August 26, 2012 08:25 PM (46qC3)

314 314 307, Arabs tend to be polite when your in a track, with CAS on station

Posted by: Jean at August 27, 2012 12:25 AM (46qC3)

If I remember my Monty Python, it's "never be rude to an arab"

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 08:26 PM (yYKoR)

315 I've long dreamed of, somehow, someway, being involved with a company (or government entity) doing work in space.

How cool would that be? To be the person that gets to answer the phones at the new Space Mining company? We mine fucking asteroids! And I get to answer the phone!

Posted by: Hopeless at August 26, 2012 08:28 PM (xutGe)

316 Folks like Huckabee are why I don't identify as a Southern Baptist anymore. I was raised in that denomination, but when it became more about winning the Culture War or about theraputic moralism than the Gospel, that's when I lost interest. I haven't attended church regularly in almost seven years. It's a long story, so I'll skip most of the details and just note it had a lot to do with how I was treated after my divorce. The capper, though, was when a couple of higher-ups in the congregation heard about my struggles with clinical depression (made worse after the divorce, of course). I quickly became a pariah to many there, because they didn't see my depression as a disease, but as a result of "unconfessed sin". I still believe in the basics of the faith (as in the Apostle's Creed), but I've given up on any assumptions that God has a plan for me or anything else.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 26, 2012 08:28 PM (5J54Q)

317 Just saw a commercial for my local republican nailed the lib on not even being from the area and being a part of Pelosi's plan to cut medicare and funding a bullet train to nowhere. He even finished with I'm so and so and I will protect medicare. We might win this thing, might.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at August 26, 2012 08:28 PM (NzBQO)

318 317,

There is always room in the Catholic pews for you.

Posted by: Hopeless at August 26, 2012 08:30 PM (xutGe)

319

Is it just me, or does it seem that any time a candidate pulls the "I'm on a mission from God" angle"....they lose?

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 26, 2012 08:30 PM (7P0BI)

320 Gushka:

Lie flat on floor (preferably on rug)

Grab knee of one leg with same side hand

Pull gently up towards chest.

grab ankle of that leg with other hand

pull ankle to crotch area

now lift opposite leg about 6-18" off floor

bend that leg up to chest (no hands left so do this by muscle power)

now extend that bent leg out and down (you may hear some popping and crunches in pelvis area. this is good unless it hurts. if it hurts STOP!)

Repeat this a few times then switch to other leg. you should feel some tension relief and some pain relief. do this at least once a day.

Lie flat for a few minutes before and after doing this to let the muscles relax and the discs expand. Raise your butt and thrust up your pelvis also this takes off some of the strain from standing of the back muscles which when tense will pull on your vertebra and pinch your nerves.

As it was explained to me, what this exercise does is realign the pelvic bones (you know there are two? They are joined by cartilage at the center) with each other. If they are misaligned they cause misalignment of the spine. (like a stack of dominoes; if the bottom ones are crooked, the ones farther up will be even more crooked)

I have extra vertebra and long body so I get back aches all the time. I have used this since the '70's to avoid going to a chiropractor every week.

If it works; mazel tov. If it doesn't, don't blame me.

Posted by: Hylozoic at August 26, 2012 08:31 PM (Vh0f5)

321 That's a Palmetto.

The Muslim's don't have a copyright on the waxing moon as a symbol.

Posted by: Hylozoic at August 26, 2012 08:32 PM (Vh0f5)

322 Posted by: Hylozoic at August 27, 2012 12:31 AM (Vh0f5)

that, or drink heavily to decrease awareness of symptoms.

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 08:33 PM (yYKoR)

323 315, when you've got them by the balls, its fun

Posted by: Jean at August 26, 2012 08:35 PM (uekSI)

324 That should be "pull heel to crotch area".

Posted by: Hylozoic at August 26, 2012 08:36 PM (Vh0f5)

325 322, so its haram and a reason to riot

Posted by: Jean at August 26, 2012 08:36 PM (uekSI)

326

"211 Both Chuck Yeager and Neil Armstrong are heroes of aviation...While Chuck Yeager is most remembered for breaking thesound barrier in the Bell X-1, hewasalsoa WWII Ace who shot down five german fighters in one flight. ..."

You remind me of one way in which people in my county are completely clueless. Probably, hardly any of them realize that the first supersonic aircraft in the world was built here.

At the local bank, they have some artwork in honor of the local community - it basically depicts apple farming. Now, they DO do that here, but this is the county famous for at least three big deal things: the aforementioned aircraft, a little thing called "electrical power", and for having the "jewel" of the Erie Canal (meaning the largest set of locks, that were quite the engineering achievement). Oh, and the automoblie radiator and the fire hydrant were, for all intents and purposes, invented here. But apples? WTF? It's like the goddamn Opening Ceremonies at the Olympics.

They also have a nice display of Civil War art. That's great, but these particular drawings feature a Confederate who was infamous for sabotaging the supply lines of the Northerners - which was US.

Seriously, WTH is wrong with people!?!

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 08:37 PM (As94z)

327 Hylozic, anything that works on kidney stones

Posted by: Jean at August 26, 2012 08:37 PM (uekSI)

328 319, Thanks for the invitation.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 26, 2012 08:38 PM (5J54Q)

329 Actually, drinking can be harder on the spine than you might think.

Since your numb and nothing hurts as much, you tend to perform actions and lie or sit in positions that would normally (and do, you just don't feel it) that would hurt.

Then to top it off, you go to sleep and however you laid is how you pretty much stay for about 3-5 hrs or until you wake up.

Now you've got a headache and a back ache.

I know whereof I speak.

Posted by: Hylozoic at August 26, 2012 08:38 PM (Vh0f5)

330 Captain W., may I ask if you think it's possible that God has a plan for you that exists beyond that denomination? I would think that He does. I don't know that the identity of that denomination but I have my assumptions. Regardless of whether I'm right or wrong as to the denomination's identity, as someone in the seriously not perfect category I believe He could do great things through you!

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 08:38 PM (yXnZF)

331 P.S. My grammar is terrible...

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 08:39 PM (yXnZF)

332 328 Us?

Posted by: Jean at August 26, 2012 08:40 PM (uekSI)

333

More down today than I was yesterday about Armstrong. I don't think I really understood how influential his actions were, on a personal level, until he was gone. Time to drink.

Posted by: otho at August 26, 2012 08:40 PM (yBF/9)

334 Isaac can blow me -- and I'm pretty sure he will.

But first the undescribeably cocksuckerish SCoaMF can go blow an exhaust pipe on a running truck. I can't believe the dickwad posts a pic of himself to remember Neil by.

When I think my disgust over this prick has peaked, he manages to soar to new heights.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 26, 2012 08:41 PM (cHZB7)

335 Jeez guys everyone getting worked up about Lance Armstrong shooting up bovine growth hormone. It's going to be okay, it's just a french bicycle race.

Posted by: Hopeless at August 26, 2012 08:43 PM (xutGe)

336 Lots of water, cranberry juice for the urinary infections and go see a urologist stat. Also see a nephrologist because if you've got kidney stones, you've also probably got uremia. (gout) this can cause pains and aches in all sorts of places but you may believe it's just wear and tear. It may not be.

I suffered from gout for years before I knew I had it. (I knew I had it after the classic symptom of swollen toe or foot, painful to touch that lasted for days.)

Since being on Gout meds (allopurinol) I've been amazed by the places that the gout was hiding (jaw, head, ankle, heel, knee, finger joints.) it can also make you itch all over.

Be aware that kidney stones are painful to pass but can kill you if they get stuck and you get infected (septicemia; happened to me).

Don't put off a trip to the urologist.

Posted by: Hylozoic at August 26, 2012 08:44 PM (Vh0f5)

337 >>>Folks like Huckabee are why I don't identify as a Southern Baptist anymore. I was raised in that denomination, but when it became more about winning the Culture War or about theraputic moralism than the Gospel, that's when I lost interest.

-----------------------------

Would that be the Culture War that the "Religious Right" has been losing in a continuous rout that makes the Washington Generals look formidable?

Posted by: cm9000 at August 26, 2012 08:45 PM (lzvtR)

338 332, I think that God could certainly have a plan for me, whether within my old denomination or elsewhere. What I don't believe anymore is that I have to wisdom to ascertain exactly what that is. All I can do anymore is to follow the teachings of Jesus as best as my imperfections allow...and boy, do I have a truckload of those.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 26, 2012 08:46 PM (5J54Q)

339 Happiness often sneaks in a door you didn't know you left open.

Posted by: John Barrymore at August 26, 2012 08:46 PM (9196u)

340 Hiya, moki!

Posted by: baldilocks at August 26, 2012 08:47 PM (6kWFm)

341 Hyzoloic, do all Urologists have the bedside manner of Vlad Tepes, or did I get a live one

Posted by: Jean at August 26, 2012 08:47 PM (JjNG+)

342 And, night, moki!

Posted by: baldilocks at August 26, 2012 08:48 PM (6kWFm)

343 If it works; mazel tov. If it doesn't, don't blame me.

Posted by: Hylozoic at August 27, 2012 12:31 AM (Vh0f5)

i think the stretch helped! i am still only kinda sorta partially here however this thing is really not funny

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 26, 2012 08:49 PM (r7Ddb)

344

" 327@309 @312

whoops! ok, ok, my bad! i didn't know the provenance of that photo!"

He looks OK to me. Must be the "uniform", and the boyish smile. That was taken on the Moon? Holy crap, you'd think these guys would be wtting their pants over whether that tiny little crazy contraption they were in was really capable of reuniting them with the Command Module, (which was another relatively tiny contraption). For all they knew, they'd hit the switch, the engine would fail, and they could look forward to either starving or suffocating to death. Yeah, I guess it's a good thing they sent THOSE GUYS, and not someone like me!!

I'm reminded of when I heard the story of after they first landed. The LEM wasn't exactly a hotel. They would basically sleep on the metal floor, in their uncomfortable suits, hoping they didn't inadvertantly bump something that was important. IIRC, it was cold, too. I think they might have either cut their sleep short, or just decided to get things moving before something went wrong. I don't know how you could sleep in that situation, anyway. Stuff you don't think about.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 08:49 PM (As94z)

345 Yeah, but the Vagina Whale is the most elusive and ~~cunning~~ cunting. Posted by: eman at August 26, 2012 11:41 PM (Wp4rQ) Fixed...

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 26, 2012 08:50 PM (sZTYJ)

346 341 Happiness often sneaks in a door you didn't know you left open.

Posted by: John Barrymore at August 27, 2012 12:46 AM (9196u)

this is so freaking true its just not funny.

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 26, 2012 08:50 PM (r7Ddb)

347 340,

Maybe there is a Latin Mass in your area?

Posted by: Hopeless at August 26, 2012 08:53 PM (xutGe)

348 @328 Don't leave out a hundred years of excellent pocket knives.

Posted by: comatus at August 26, 2012 08:53 PM (qaVK+)

349 339, That's the one. I'm not saying that one shouldn't stand for what is right. Feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, and caring for those in need (the "widows and orphans") should be the Church's outreach. That shouldn't be painted with the scary "social justice" brush that some use. Saying that someone isn't a true believer if they don't vote a certain way is not all what the church should be about.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 26, 2012 08:53 PM (5J54Q)

350 I did the stretch and now have kidney stones and the gout. WTF?

Posted by: Hopeless at August 26, 2012 08:54 PM (xutGe)

351
Be aware that kidney stones are painful to pass but can kill you if they get stuck and you get infected (septicemia; happened to me).

Don't put off a trip to the urologist.

Posted by: Hylozoic at August 27, 2012 12:44 AM (Vh0f5)

i have had those. OMG. i know that feeling. thank goodness this is not that. i picked up a bucket full of hot bran mash laced with horse medicine this morning and this is the result. Lift from the knees they said....

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 26, 2012 08:55 PM (r7Ddb)

352 Captain W., I've got a truckload of issues too! The best I can do I ask for the wisdom of the Guy Upstairs, because I need all the help I can get.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 08:55 PM (yXnZF)

353

"335More down today than I was yesterday about Armstrong. I don't think I really understood how influential his actions were, on a personal level, until he was gone. Time to drink."

Let me cheer you up.

1000 years from now, people will still be talking about Neil Armstrong, but nobody but the nerdiest history professor, and maybe a psychology professor or two (specializing in NPD) will have a clue who the hell Barack Obama was.

10,000 years from now, people will still be talking about Neil Armstrong, and NOBODY will know or care who the hell Barack Obama was.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 08:56 PM (As94z)

354 Okay, I know that Moron prayers work! My mom found a lump in one of her breasts and she's going for a biopsy on Tuesday. Please pray for a good report from her doctor.

I'm not worried as I know that prayer works. Mom is a ten-year ovarian cancer survivor, which is almost unheard of. We were on our knees all the time back then.

And all you praying Morons know, when two or more agree...

Thank you for your prayers.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 26, 2012 08:57 PM (6kWFm)

355 My wife and I are in the car, drive by Market and Castro, and she looks and says "Naked guys! Ha!".

I just look straight ahead. Since I am driving and all...

Posted by: navybrat at August 26, 2012 08:57 PM (PIgwN)

356 Hopeless, I think there is. I'll be upfront and say that much of the Lutheran doctrine resonates with me these days. I haven't yet attended a Lutheran service, though, and I'm not ruling Catholicism out. I may attend Mass one week and a Lutheran church the next. I appreciate your interest. Thanks!

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 26, 2012 08:57 PM (5J54Q)

357 What steps to take to reduce chances of kidney stones? Any foods to avoid, or just drink plenty of water (which I do)?

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 08:59 PM (yYKoR)

358 Just as a side note, I know this person -- http://www.youcaring.com/fundraiser_details?fundraiser_id=8229&url=helpfortiffany .

She really has been doing counseling and treatment for people who are both mentally ill and have substance abuse problems for years -- I know, 'cause I advised her against it as a career choice 'cause it pays like shit. She originally contacted me when she was in school about an accounting question for a class, and we've corresponded for an embarrassingly long time....in that it highlights how old I've gotten.

I can't opine on the youcaring.com thing for effective fundraising, but she's always been on-the-edge financially (see "poor career choice" above) and her recent illness has been a heavy blow.

If you've got a couple of shekels in your sofa cushions, that's one thing -- but if you are actually a sociable, well-connected person, then it'd be even better if you could get it out to more people......aw, who the hell am I kidding? We're morons on the ONT. She's doomed.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 26, 2012 08:59 PM (kaalw)

359 Captain, How about Evangelical Presbyterian? Baldilocks, prayers for your mom!

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 08:59 PM (yXnZF)

360 355
"335More down today than I was yesterday about Armstrong. I don't think I really understood how influential his actions were, on a personal level, until he was gone. Time to drink."

Let me cheer you up.

1000 years from now, people will still be talking about Neil Armstrong, but nobody but the nerdiest history professor, and maybeapsychology professor or two (specializing in NPD)will have a clue who the hell Barack Obama was.

10,000 years from now, people will still be talking about Neil Armstrong, and NOBODY will know or care who the hell Barack Obama was.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 27, 2012 12:56 AM (As94z)

Oh, history will remember him...just not in a good way.

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 09:00 PM (yYKoR)

361 And all you praying Morons know, when two or more agree...

Thank you for your prayers.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 27, 2012 12:57 AM (6kWFm)

done now. and putting Baldilocks mom, in my intentions. i figure He's the Boss, knows all and will immediately know who i mean.

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 26, 2012 09:00 PM (r7Ddb)

362 355 10,000 years from now, people will still be talking about Neil Armstrong, and NOBODY will know or care who the hell Barack Obama was. Thank God for that.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 26, 2012 09:02 PM (5J54Q)

363 361, Okay. I'll look into it.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 26, 2012 09:03 PM (5J54Q)

364 359 What steps to take to reduce chances of kidney stones? Any foods to avoid, or just drink plenty of water (which I do)?

Posted by: model_1066 at August 27, 2012 12:59 AM (yYKoR)

drink parsley tea. interestingly, it doesnt even taste bad. that and half a cup diluted real cider vinegar with honey 2x a day. Also doesnt taste bad.

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 26, 2012 09:04 PM (r7Ddb)

365 Captain, Hopefully I'm not driving you nuts but CANA (Episcopalians who unite with African dioceses) may work too.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 09:04 PM (yXnZF)

366 355 10,000 years from now, people will still be talking about Neil Armstrong, and NOBODY will know or care who the hell Barack Obama was. Thank God for that. Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 27, 2012 01:02 AM (5J54Q) Barry may be immortalized as a name for a particularly nasty intestinal disorder.

Posted by: eman at August 26, 2012 09:04 PM (Wp4rQ)

367 Hi ont, so if I got this right, If the republicans cancel the convention and go later they are stepping on the dems toes, but if they have the convention during this storm, they are putting people at danger. Cant fkin win for losing, msm SUCKS!

Posted by: lou's a girl at August 26, 2012 09:07 PM (EPbpF)

368 BTW if pregnant, on warfarin or have kidney damage parsley tea is not for you. it can cause bleeding if taken in overdose amounts.

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 26, 2012 09:08 PM (r7Ddb)

369 One more thing for Captain W.! If the infant baptism issue isn't really a big deal look into the Christian and Missionary Alliance. They are an offshoot of the Presbyterians but without infant baptism. I will stop now because I want everyone else to like me...

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 09:08 PM (yXnZF)

370 Test.

Posted by: Legitimate Rape at August 26, 2012 09:10 PM (tOkJB)

371 #362

Better that Obama be remembered in great and ugly detail. It is a critical function of history to inform of what made great men but also what made the worst men. Obama's damage to the world is less visceral than a Hitler or Stalin but the knowledge needs to be kept alive lest more like him come to power.

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 09:11 PM (kcfmt)

372 Now there is a proposal. Charles Ponzi is immortalized for running a particularly successful version of a scam as old as money. I propose that henceforth every leftist con artist who ascends to high political office be known as an Obama.

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 09:14 PM (kcfmt)

373 373 #362

Better that Obama be remembered in great and ugly detail. It is a critical function of history to inform of what made great men but also what made the worst men. Obama's damage to the world is less visceral than a Hitler or Stalin but the knowledge needs to be kept alive lest more like him come to power.

Posted by: epobirs at August 27, 2012 01:11 AM (kcfmt)

Some were born douchebags, some had douchebagginess thrust upon them.

Posted by: model_1066 at August 26, 2012 09:16 PM (yYKoR)

374 I finally got my brother's old laptop hooked up to the new router and printing with the regular keyboard. Hooray for me!

Posted by: Legitimate Rape at August 26, 2012 09:16 PM (tOkJB)

375 And another thing, new nfl refs same as old nfl refs. old refs making 8 grand a game and bitching, 3 hrs work per game for 16 wks, 16 wks x8 grand is a hell of a lot of money.

Posted by: lou's a girl at August 26, 2012 09:18 PM (EPbpF)

376 1000 years from now, people will still be talking about Neil Armstrong, but nobody but the nerdiest history professor, and maybeapsychology professor or two (specializing in NPD)will have a clue who the hell Barack Obama was.

10,000 years from now, people will still be talking about Neil Armstrong, and NOBODY will know or care who the hell Barack Obama was.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 27, 2012 12:56 AM

Yeah. It's a silver lining, I guess. Fuck the chooming, Indonesian Imbecile. I wish this had happened under Bush. i'm no Bush fan, but he would know what to do, what to say and how to say it. The rump pumping, dog eater is gonna make it all about him.

Posted by: otho at August 26, 2012 09:20 PM (yBF/9)

377 Well the track for Isaac has shifted a bit again, even more westward with the center line centered on New Orleans now. I'm on the MS Gulf Coast, so this somewhat good news for me. Katrina came ashore at Bay St. Louis MS, about 40 miles east of NO.

As Joe Biden might say if he wasn't currently sucking his toes, 50 miles from the hurricane's center is a big fucking deal.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 26, 2012 09:20 PM (cHZB7)

378

"368 Barry may be immortalized as a name for a particularly nasty intestinal disorder."

My money is on an extreme form of narcissistic personality disorder. Maybe that will depend on whether he tries to do something crazy after he loses the election.

Wow. Think about this: If Barry flips out badly enough - so that it can't be covered up, we'd end up with President Biden for a couple of months.

Oops. The whole idea was to cheer somebody up...

Getting back to the bright side, I'm looking forward to the day when black people in this country start referring to Obama as the first half-Kenyan President. Seriously, they have no more in common with this guy, ethnically, than I have with a recent Russian immigrant in NYC (Hey, vote for me, we're both white!!).

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 09:20 PM (As94z)

379 Best comment from the San Francisco article:

DonovanC 08/20/12 01:05 PM

#3 - I was once walking through San Francisco when a Rasta spread out a blanket of dope on a parked car and asked if I wanted to buy any green. The car was a SFPD cruiser. I pointed out that he was using a police car to display his s**t, and he responded, "De car be here, da cop be somewhere else, mon..." Can't argue with logic like that now, can you?

Posted by: schizoid at August 26, 2012 09:22 PM (QX0rl)

380 #380

Perhaps more attention will be given to what MLK meant about 'content of their character.'

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 09:23 PM (kcfmt)

381 Now I can watch TV.

Posted by: Legitimate Rape at August 26, 2012 09:24 PM (tOkJB)

382

"378 ... I'm no Bush fan, but he would know what to do, what to say and how to say it. The rump pumping, dog eater is gonna make it all about him."

Yeah, it really is a shame. The country that sent ol' Neil there should have done better.

Bush? Hell - damn near anybody would do better. It's hard to imagine even Joe Biden doing a worse job, and he'd probably screw up the facts of the matter.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 09:25 PM (As94z)

383 Barry may be immortalized as a name for a particularly nasty intestinal disorder.

Posted by: eman at August 27, 2012 01:04 AM (Wp4rQ)

Calling the dinosaurs

Yawning in technicolor

Reading the teleprompter like Obama

Worshiping at the porcelain altar

Yeah, works for me.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 26, 2012 09:26 PM (kaalw)

384 ""Some were born douchebags, some had douchebagginess thrust upon them.""

...and in obama's case it's both.

Posted by: Berserker at August 26, 2012 09:26 PM (FMbng)

385

Maybe that would make for a good drinking game, people trying to come up with the best alternate history account, where Joe Biden is doing the tribute to Neil Armstrong.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 09:27 PM (As94z)

386
Better that Obama be remembered in great and ugly detail. It is a critical function of history to inform of what made great men but also what made the worst men. Obama's damage to the world is less visceral than a Hitler or Stalin but the knowledge needs to be kept alive lest more like him come to power.

Posted by: epobirs at August 27, 2012 01:11 AM (kcfmt)

Obama is a far too marginally historical figure to rank with Hitler or Stalin. He is a trivial figure in an un-serious time.

Posted by: cm9000 at August 26, 2012 09:28 PM (lzvtR)

387 1000 years from now, people will still be talking about Neil Armstrong, but nobody but the nerdiest history professor, and maybeapsychology professor or two (specializing in NPD)will have a clue who the hell Barack Obama was.

I think you wildly underestimate the damage that Barky has done and how historically significant it is that the most advanced, decent, intelligent, powerful society on Earth readily committed suicide in the most retarded way possible. Barky will live in infamy for thousands of years, as he represents the tool by which the greatest nation to have ever existed chose to kill itself and ignored thousands of signs that were staring them in the face the whole time while doing it.

What America allowed to be done under Barky is something that can never be forgotten. It is beyond insane. It shows how close every society is to the chasm, and that guilt can push any group over the brink into retarded insanity that lasts for years and does more damage than anyone could have imagined.

No. This idiocy and the precipice it brought America and the world to will not just fade away quietly, as it shouldn't. This is a significant point in history in pointing out the frail nature of even the most rugged and sane of societies.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 26, 2012 09:31 PM (X3lox)

388

"374Now there is a proposal. Charles Ponzi is immortalized for running a particularly successful version of a scam as old as money. I propose that henceforth every leftist con artist who ascends to high political office be known as an Obama."

I agree with #388, but this one still works.

I have a similar proposal, that is probably already out there. Rather than throw them in the proverbial "dustbin of history", I think the OWS phenomenon should be forever immortalized by henceforth referring to the really, really useless college majors as "OWS degrees".

Give it about 50 years, and some liberal arts professor will be researching where the term "OWS degree" came from.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 09:34 PM (As94z)

389 #388

Which is why it is dangerous for him to sink into obscurity. Would-be genocides are easy to reject. But this guy walked right up, told a litany of blatant lies, synthesized his biography and kept major details of his life in shadow, yet he took the highest office int he land while thos eof us who saw him for what he was could only only star at the TV and mumble, "WTF?"

During the Bush years the President was endlessly accused of being another Hitler. A charge that is easily one of the greatest insults that can be made against a national leader. But if during the 2008 campaign protestors had carried signs declaring BHO=FDR, many would assume it was a show of support, as the beatification of Roosevelt remain a cherished belief among a major portion of Americans, including those who should really know better.

If a larger portion of the electorate understood the damage done by FDR, would they have fallen for BHO's scam?

History matters.

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 09:38 PM (kcfmt)

390 I think you wildly underestimate the damage that Barky has done and how historically significant it is that the most advanced, decent, intelligent, powerful society on Earth readily committed suicide in the most retarded way possible. Barky will live in infamy for thousands of years,

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 27, 2012 01:31 AM (X3lox)

America was fatally corrupted before "Barky". The fatal corruption allowed the advent of "Barky".

Posted by: cm9000 at August 26, 2012 09:40 PM (lzvtR)

391 ""No. This idiocy and the precipice it brought America and the world to will not just fade away quietly, as it shouldn't. This is a significant point in history in pointing out the frail nature of even the most rugged and sane of societies.""

Maybe they'll put obama on Mt Rushmore after all ...looking straight at the 4 new arms, hands, and middle fingers attached to the other presidents there.

Posted by: Berserker at August 26, 2012 09:41 PM (FMbng)

392

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 27, 2012 01:31 AM (X3lox)

Yes, Thank You! Half our country sits at home waiting for the honey boo boo welfare juice every month, and they only work one day a year, election day.

Posted by: lou's a girl at August 26, 2012 09:41 PM (EPbpF)

393 Good night!

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at August 26, 2012 09:45 PM (yXnZF)

394
America was fatally corrupted before "Barky".

There is no comparison with America before the Indonesian Imbecile. None. America snapped in 2008. Plain and simple. This country voted in someone who hatd us. Go find even one other instance in history of the lader of any nation who hated that nation and worked towards its demise. You will find a couple of idiot emperors here and there who disliked their nations but they came to power by heredity and still didn't work to destroy their lands. Then go and find even a SINGLE case where a nation voted in someone who hated them and everything they stood for. You will be searching a good long time.

The fatal corruption allowed the advent of "Barky".

Posted by: cm9000 at August 27, 2012 01:40 AM (lzvtR)

No. The idiotic white guilt allowed the advent of the Ineligible Indonesian. Period. Corruption doesn't make a nation intentionally ignore all the signs in front of it about how much contempt the person they are voting for holds them in and how much damage he wants to do to them. Not to turn America into some Commie wasteland, but just to trash the place and break everything in sight - which is exactly what he's pursued every day since he's been in office.

And then there's the fact that Barky is just a stone cold idiot, which is a whole other part of the story.

The Founders put the "natural born citizen" clause in for a reason and Barky is a perfect illustration of what the Founders were trying to stave off, though I don't imagine they ever contemplated that any nation could actively choose such an idiot for the highest office - an idiot that held us, our institutions and our culture in utter contempt.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 26, 2012 09:47 PM (X3lox)

395 I hope someone has the common sense to withdraw Fuckabee's speaking slot at the convention.

Posted by: Kaitian at August 26, 2012 09:47 PM (itBUs)

396

"389 ... I think you wildly underestimate the damage that Barky has done and how historically significant it is that the most advanced, ..."

Maybe. But I hope not, and I hope you overestimate Obama's importance, and underestimate America.

While my own confidence in America has been shaken, one thing I notice is that even Democrats seem to be starting to notice that Obama and the top Dems in Congress represent a brand of socialism so extreme that they can no longer get behind it.

I'm reminded of a remark by a relative of my wife's who is convinced that Obama will be re-elected. He also has a sort of conspiracy theory that says that Obama is preparing for a declaration of martial law.

We have our ideological demons, but one thing that Americans really enjoy, and identify with is, simply, that "We're number One!" You don't have to understand ideology, or economics, to have a feeling that Obama is not the way to go for that. Everybody knows that things are not good, nothing is getting better, and nothing's going to get better while Obama sticks around. Plus, they're probably sick of being called "racist" any time they have the least little complain about the guy.

As they start to pay attention to the election, the independent voters are going to see that Romney is a hell of a great guy (remember that story about shutting down his company to save a girl?) and that the things the Dems complain about the most about him are essentially that he's been an incredible success story in turning organizations around. You can SMELL the fear in the Obama camp - they're in a lot of trouble.

Romeny will have it tough, but if we send Obama back to Chicago, and start pulling some Reagan-esque moves, we can get through this.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 09:47 PM (As94z)

397 I think you wildly underestimate the damage that Barky has done and how historically significant it is that the most advanced, decent, intelligent, powerful society on Earth readily committed suicide in the most retarded way possible. Barky will live in infamy for thousands of years, as he represents the tool by which the greatest nation to have ever existed chose to kill itself and ignored thousands of signs that were staring them in the face the whole time while doing it.

What America allowed to be done under Barky is something that can never be forgotten. It is beyond insane. It shows how close every society is to the chasm, and that guilt can push any group over the brink into retarded insanity that lasts for years and does more damage than anyone could have imagined.

No. This idiocy and the precipice it brought America and the world to will not just fade away quietly, as it shouldn't. This is a significant point in history in pointing out the frail nature of even the most rugged and sane of societies.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 27, 2012 01:31 AM

You're right... Barry is a tool. But, I think he's not significant. He's malevolent and destructive, however he isn't special. It may be the pessimist in me, but I think he was inevitable. I mean, if not him, some other poof would have filled his slot (ahem). The bulk of the damage had already been wrought before he showed up. There will be more when he no longer darkens our doorsteps. (ahem). It's a societal infestation that goes way beyond an individual. It is the war with communism that never ended. Barry's just a symptom, like the dementia of late stage syphilis.

Posted by: otho at August 26, 2012 09:50 PM (yBF/9)

398 397 I hope someone has the common sense to withdraw Fuckabee's speaking slot at the convention.

Posted by: Kaitian at August 27, 2012 01:47 AM (itBUs)

Oh hell no, that would mean the Republicans had some balls, not gonna happen.

Posted by: lou's a girl at August 26, 2012 09:50 PM (EPbpF)

399 #396

The tragedy of Obama is that he not only embraces the bad ideas he has been fed all of his life, he hasn't a clue how to implement them. Given dictatorial powers I expect a President For Life Obama regime would make the Soviets look competent.

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 09:50 PM (kcfmt)

400 Both Armstrong and Obama will be remembered centuries from now. We still remember both Archimedes and Caligula today.

Posted by: rickl at August 26, 2012 09:54 PM (sdi6R)

401 How about Allen West, Sheriff Joe, Scott Walker, Jan Brewer? Hello!

Posted by: lou's a girl at August 26, 2012 09:56 PM (EPbpF)

402
Romeny will have it tough, but if we send Obama back to Chicago, and start pulling some Reagan-esque moves, we can get through this.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 27, 2012 01:47 AM (As94z)

Not if Barky is never held responsible for all the crimes he's committed (and there have been many of the most serious nature). ANd not if it is never acknowledged what a transparent, despicable lying sack of shit he is - something that not even the lying liars of the dems had ever come close to before, as even Clinton would always try to weasel his way through asinine lies. Barky never even bothered with the weaseling - since he's too stupid, to start. He just lies. Flat out. Over and over. Day after day. Dumb, transparent, intellectually offensive lies. ANd now that has leched through the whole American left and it is accepted as part of American politics. Again, not silly lies with weasel words but flat-out obvious untruths told straight to your face.

Barky is like many in the islamic world who have no problem lying all over the place and then just claiming, "I never said that" and then saying it again right after. It's a cultural thing. America used to not accept this sort of shit but Barky has been allowed to do pretty much anything he wanted without any consequences ... and that is irreparable damage that sinks deep into the culture. It can be fixed, but only by holding that sort of liar to the law and throwing the book at him. If that isn't done, then nothing will be fixed.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 26, 2012 09:56 PM (X3lox)

403 Incidentally, there is excellent coverage of Isaac over at Ticker Forum. That thread is up to 21 pages now. The fact that Karl's house was squarely in the crosshairs for a while probably helped. http://tickerforum.org/akcs-www?post=210471&page=21

Posted by: rickl at August 26, 2012 09:57 PM (sdi6R)

404 Good evening again.

I have been to the Book of Faces and a pressing social issue has once again been solved in the form of a .JPEG image.

The solution to fixing education?

Declare war on it.

We declared war on poverty and we got more of it. We declared war on drugs and now everyone uses them. War on education? Why the only possible result is more people reading books.

It's so crazy that it just might work.

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 09:57 PM (4ixH5)

405 Some link love?

http://members.shaw.ca/rlongpre01/moon.html

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 09:59 PM (4ixH5)

406 Dream Theater covering Highway Star.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=gy1Rxjfinq4&NR=1

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:00 PM (4ixH5)

407 Here's an Iron Maiden cover band, The Iron Maidens, covering Wasted Years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BmTXo9L0-g

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:00 PM (4ixH5)

408 Thank you for your prayers. Posted by: baldilocks at August 27, 2012 12:57 AM (6kWFm) Thoughts and prayers to you and your mother!

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 26, 2012 10:00 PM (sZTYJ)

409 407 LOL

Posted by: rickl at August 26, 2012 10:00 PM (sdi6R)

410 like the dementia of late stage syphilis.

Posted by: otho at August 27, 2012 01:50 AM (yBF/9)

But to see the greatest nation to have ever existed slide into such a demetia is a significant event. Barky is the tool glommed onto by the demented, syphillitic part of the American populace, but that such a population in the greatest nation ever exists in any great number (and really appeared out of nowhere - as the credit crisis threw America into a psychotic break that, combined with toxic illusory white guilt brought all this out) is a cautionary tale for the ages. And syphilis kills in the end. A terrible, terrible death.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 26, 2012 10:00 PM (X3lox)

411 Finally...The Motherfucking Pterodactyl.

http://youtu.be/aHpDPuh8A2Q

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:01 PM (4ixH5)

412 Declaring war on abstract concepts rarely, if ever, produces any results of satisfying finality. This was the essential problem of the War on Terror. How can one possibly win such a vague premise. But we couldn't say we were at war with Islamic extremism, because somebody who already wants us dead or enslaved might be offended.

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 10:01 PM (kcfmt)

413 Oh boy: I hereby declare war on Ben Browder and FarScape ...

Posted by: Adriane Loves the Classics but is Easily Confused at August 26, 2012 10:01 PM (3RmJl)

414 Metallica - The Call Of...The Squid?

Wait a second...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaQAA521Zh0

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:02 PM (4ixH5)

415 Adriane!

*Nabs*

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:02 PM (4ixH5)

416 Both Armstrong and Obama will be remembered centuries from now. We still remember both Archimedes and Caligula today. Posted by: rickl at August 27, 2012 01:54 AM (sdi6R) And Biden will be remembered also. We still remember Caligula's horse, Incitatus.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 26, 2012 10:03 PM (sZTYJ)

417

ok, got it. Night all, God Bless.

Posted by: lou's a girl at August 26, 2012 10:04 PM (EPbpF)

418 399 I think you wildly underestimate the damage that Barky has done and how historically significant it is that the most advanced, decent, intelligent, powerful society on Earth readily committed suicide in the most retarded way possible. Barky will live in infamy for thousands of years, as he represents the tool by which the greatest nation to have ever existed chose to kill itself and ignored thousands of signs that were staring them in the face the whole time while doing it.What America allowed to be done under Barky is something that can never be forgotten. It is beyond insane. It shows how close every society is to the chasm, and that guilt can push any group over the brink into retarded insanity that lasts for years and does more damage than anyone could have imagined.No. This idiocy and the precipice it brought America and the world to will not just fade away quietly, as it shouldn't. This is a significant point in history in pointing out the frail nature of even the most rugged and sane of societies.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 27, 2012 01:31 AM

Um okay I'm guessing that you weren't a history major.

There have been FAR more damaging leaders in history and even more harmful American presidents than Obama. And no doubt there will be others in the future.

I get that you really, really, really hate Obama but try to keep some perspective here. You give Obama way too much credit and have too little faith in the US.

Obama is mostly incompetent and rather un-special in everything he does. His main harm has been to put us even more deeply in debt - most everything else is bad but fixable. A hundred years from now he'll be considered a disappointment who didn't really achieve anything of importance - a black Andrew Johnson.

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 26, 2012 10:04 PM (xROTy)

419 Speaking of 1000 years from now. People will look back on the propaganda wing of NASA and laugh at the stupidity of NASA's involvment in that religion.

Posted by: Up with people! at August 26, 2012 10:05 PM (kzFo5)

420 I think I overate, so I went on a longer walk than is normal for me on a work night.

Towards the end a very friendly dog, a mid-sized mutt of some kind, decided he was gonna walk with me a short ways. Very social and playful, he jumped up a couple of times saying hello, walked down a few houses with me pissing on everything. Eventually I had to shoo him off. Someone already owns him, judging by his collar and tags, and anyway my Sadie schweety would be pissed at me if I brought home another animal to compete for her affections.

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:07 PM (4ixH5)

421 ...find even a SINGLE case where a nation voted in someone who hated them and everything they stood for. You will be searching a good long time.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 27, 2012 01:47 AM

Maybe not as obvious as Barry is, but it's been going on since the 60's, at least. and has picked up steam since the Berlin Wall came down. A bunch of them from European countries, Whitlam in Australia, Blair and co in Britain... not as blatant as Baraka, but, just as destructive in their own agendas. I hope you're right. Hopefully the US can reverse the tide. If any country can, maybe it will.

Posted by: otho at August 26, 2012 10:07 PM (yBF/9)

422 His main harm has been to put us even more deeply in debt - most everything else is bad but fixable.

Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at August 27, 2012 02:04 AM (xROTy)

If you say so.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 26, 2012 10:07 PM (X3lox)

423

"396 ... There is no comparison with America before the Indonesian Imbecile. None. America snapped in 2008. Plain and simple. This country voted in someone who hatd us. ..."

An interesting and legitimate point!

BUT!!!

Let's look at what really happened. First we had slavery, that festered like a cancer for almost a century. Then we had a century of some pretty bad descrimination. The civil rights movement was inevitable, but overcompensated, allowing the "white guilt" phenomenon.

Obama's election is a symptom of that over-reaction. So many people were so eager to show their "virtuousity" by electing a "black" man, that they didn't even WANT to look at his background, and didn't even bother to notice that he was more "half-Kenyan", and biracial, than he was "black".

If the phenomenon of electing a leader who hates the country is unique, it's because all that was unique.

I think history tells us that over-reactions like we're seeing have a way of having a backlash, than another (smaller) over-reaction (a backlash to the backlash!), etc. as things settle down and get more reasonable.

Just look at how - after FOUR YEARS! - non-Republican people are finally starting to notice that Biden is a blithering idiot, and cracking jokes about it! Hell, there's even a left-wing wish-fulfillment TV series where HILLARY is running for President, WHILE OBAMA IS RUNNING.

Barky is an over-reaction, and a mistake, just like Carter was. Nothing more.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 10:07 PM (As94z)

424 Good night, Lou!

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:08 PM (4ixH5)

425 Barky never even bothered with the weaseling - since he's too stupid, to start. He just lies. Flat out. Over and over. Day after day. Dumb, transparent, intellectually offensive lies. ANd now that has leched through the whole American left and it is accepted as part of American politics.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 27, 2012 01:56 AM (X3lox)

I hate to cherry pick like this, but the Left always lies. They always have. It is nothing new. Democrats lie. The sky is blue.

Posted by: cm9000 at August 26, 2012 10:08 PM (lzvtR)

426

Hey !

Dropped my car keys somewhere around here last night...anyone turned em in?

Posted by: Richard at August 26, 2012 10:08 PM (wlisC)

427 There have been FAR more damaging leaders in history and even more harmful American presidents than Obama. And no doubt there will be others in the future. Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at August 27, 2012 02:04 AM (xROTy) There is a difference. America was far more resilient back then because we held to our founding and fundamental principles far more then we do now. Even if Obama is less of a threat, his impact may be far greater. America is, and as long as even part of what made America America exists, something worth fighting for. We just shouldn't underestimate the damage we've taken, an how we might be in a weakened state. All we can to is fight harder than even fortune seems to permit.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 26, 2012 10:08 PM (sZTYJ)

428 Anyone ever buy chorizo sausage? Before googling on what to do with this stuff that I randomly threw into the shopping cart, anyone know a (non-porn) thing to make with this stuff?

Posted by: Up with people! at August 26, 2012 10:08 PM (kzFo5)

429 *Hands* Robert a virtual slice of predestination ...

Posted by: Adriane Loves the Classics but is Easily Confused at August 26, 2012 10:09 PM (3RmJl)

430 Having "empathy" now considered a legitimate main criterion for a judge or justice - in direct opposition to over three millenia of tradition in Western jurisprudence and the very foundation of our idea of jurisprudence ... "no big deal".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 26, 2012 10:09 PM (X3lox)

431 *Hands* Robert a virtual slice of predestination ...

Posted by: Adriane Loves the Classics but is Easily Confused at August 27, 2012 02:09 AM (3RmJl)

Am I going somewhere?

OH! I hope it's a metal show!

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:10 PM (4ixH5)

432 Anyone ever buy chorizo sausage? Before googling on what to do with this stuff that I randomly threw into the shopping cart, anyone know a (non-porn) thing to make with this stuff?

Posted by: Up with people! at August 27, 2012 02:08 AM (kzFo5)

Embrace your inner-Mexican.

It crumbles when you fry it, so you're not eating it like a regular sausage.

Most common thing you'll see chorizo mixed with is egg and rolled in a tortilla for breakfast tacos.

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:11 PM (4ixH5)

433
I hate to cherry pick like this, but the Left always lies. They always have. It is nothing new. Democrats lie. The sky is blue.

Posted by: cm9000 at August 27, 2012 02:08 AM (lzvtR)

No problem. THe left always lies but there are different ways of lyign and different sorts of lies. Someone who just lies straight to your face - like Baghdad Bob - is different from someone like Clinton who tries to make his lies sound somewhat believable. Both are lying but one sort is an intellectual insult and the other is stupid but shows some understanding on the part of the liar that they know they are doing something wrong.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 26, 2012 10:12 PM (X3lox)

434 Am I going somewhere? You can go with this Or you can go with that You can go with this Or you can go with that Or you can go with this Or you can go with that Or you can go with us

Posted by: We strongly suggest you come quietly ... at August 26, 2012 10:14 PM (3RmJl)

435 Or you can go with us

Posted by: We strongly suggest you come quietly ... at August 27, 2012 02:14 AM (3RmJl)

No blindfolds!

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:15 PM (4ixH5)

436 OK, so the laundry ain't going to do itself ...

Posted by: Adriane, currently sock free, but wearing pants ... at August 26, 2012 10:16 PM (3RmJl)

437

Embrace your inner-Mexican.It crumbles when you fry it, so you're not eating it like a regular sausage.Most common thing you'll see chorizo mixed with is egg and rolled in a tortilla for breakfast tacos.

----

I'm making that with it. First world problem #19 (What do I do with this food) SOLVED!

Posted by: Up with people! at August 26, 2012 10:16 PM (kzFo5)

438 No blindfolds! OK ... cheap, plastic raincoat and salt for the smashed watermelon ???

Posted by: Attended one to many Gallagher acts at August 26, 2012 10:17 PM (3RmJl)

439 OK ... cheap, plastic raincoat and salt for the smashed watermelon ???

Posted by: Attended one to many Gallagher acts at August 27, 2012 02:17 AM (3RmJl)

You drive a hard bargain.

OK, so the laundry ain't going to do itself ...

Posted by: Adriane, currently sock free, but wearing pants ... at August 27, 2012 02:16 AM (3RmJl)

That's why you get a small cadre of trained helper monkeys.

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:20 PM (4ixH5)

440 SOLVED!

Posted by: Up with people! at August 27, 2012 02:16 AM (kzFo5)

Don't forget the Tabasco sauce.

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:20 PM (4ixH5)

441 The Executive deciding on a whim that he can extend legal residence to anyone he wants - even after he admitted, himself, that he can't do such a thing. "No investigation. No big deal."

Going to war without even talking to anyone in Congress - not even talking! "No investigation. No big deal".

Extorting money from private business from the Oval Office and then crowing to America about it - all while that same executive totally screwed up the cleanup and containment in a way that the most incompetent of idiots wouldn't, intentionally disallowing the states to do any mitigation, etc.. "No investigation. No big deal."

An American candidate campaigning in a foreign nation, to foreigners. "No investigation. No big deal."

I could go on for pages with shit like this.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 26, 2012 10:20 PM (X3lox)

442 Oy Vey ... Roses are red, So are some fine wines, Time to go to bed, For sleep I do pine ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at August 26, 2012 10:21 PM (3RmJl)

443 Anyway, you all get my point, I won't belabor it. I'm done.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 26, 2012 10:21 PM (X3lox)

444 #428

I think you lost them by the bushes but try under the street lamp. The light is better there.

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 10:22 PM (kcfmt)

445 well ... I sometimes pine for tabasco sauce and a return to political sanity ... but mostly the tabasco sauce ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at August 26, 2012 10:23 PM (3RmJl)

446 #433

Now I'm picturing Robert vibrating in place, with a leash in his mouth.

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 10:24 PM (kcfmt)

447 430 Anyone ever buy chorizo sausage? Before googling on what to do with this stuff that I randomly threw into the shopping cart, anyone know a (non-porn) thing to make with this stuff?

Posted by: Up with people! at August 27, 2012 02:08 AM (kzFo5)

I got a chorizo sausage in my pants for Paul Ryan

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 26, 2012 10:24 PM (ovpNn)

448
No problem. THe left always lies but there are different ways of lyign and different sorts of lies. Someone who just lies straight to your face - like Baghdad Bob - is different from someone like Clinton who tries to make his lies sound somewhat believable. Both are lying but one sort is an intellectual insult and the other is stupid but shows some understanding on the part of the liar that they know they are doing something wrong.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 27, 2012 02:12 AM (X3lox)

When Leftist lie they are:

1- Engaging in irony.

2- Pandering to the stupid.

Posted by: cm9000 at August 26, 2012 10:24 PM (lzvtR)

449 Anyway, you all get my point, I won't belabor it. I'm done. Never force an idea ... when it's time has come it will be unstoppable ... so grease the skids quietly so the opposition doesn't notice ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at August 26, 2012 10:24 PM (3RmJl)

450 For sleep I do pine ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at August 27, 2012 02:21 AM (3RmJl)

Sleep in a pine tree? Do wha?

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:25 PM (4ixH5)

451 #450

Well, they'll SAY that if confronted, but hose are just more lies. They produce nested lies the way computer industry marketing drones produce nested acronyms.

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 10:26 PM (kcfmt)

452 Now I'm picturing Robert vibrating in place, with a leash in his mouth.

Posted by: epobirs at August 27, 2012 02:24 AM (kcfmt)

Hey, now, I don't trash talk your hobbies, do I? ;p

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:26 PM (4ixH5)

453 Banana! Banana!

Posted by: Robert unzipping his gimp mask at August 26, 2012 10:27 PM (4ixH5)

454

Robert! Walkies!

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 10:28 PM (kcfmt)

455 many parts of a pine tree are edible ... so yes, sleeping with a bowl of grape nuts qualifies ... you for two free cruise tickets if you send $1000 for postage and handling ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at August 26, 2012 10:28 PM (3RmJl)

456

404 ... Not if Barky is never held responsible for all the crimes he's committed (and there have been many of the most serious nature). ... He just lies. Flat out. Over and over. Day after day. Dumb, transparent, intellectually offensive lies. ... Again, not silly lies with weasel words but flat-out obvious untruths ..."

You've touched on two things that have occurred to me. First or all, I wouldn't be surprised if Romney got in there and he became privy to stuff that was real bad. Like about "Fast and Furious", or worse. What does Romney do? We don't want to get into a mode of prosecuting previous presidents that were of a different party. At the same time, what if they did stuff that was pretty bad, that a Democrat should even want to prosecute (not that they ever would). Does he pardon Obama, to "protect the office"? Just do nothing? Go after him? Hell, we're starting to sound like the Left Wing craazies (like my brother, for example) who seriously thought Bush would be impeached! But Bush never had a cabinet member held in contempt of Congress.

As to the lying, I have noticed the difference, too. Just look at the "out of context" crap. I have NEVER seen a President actually take out an ad whose entire purpose was to tell an obvious and easily verifyable lie!! I've noticed long strings of outright lies and misrepresentations before, too (especially when he talks about energy). I would have dismissed Jeremiah Wright's revelations about him in recent months (about him saying he gets to lie), but it has become apparent that he's one of those guys who simply makes crap up as he goes along - he's a for-real pathological liar. He'll even lie about things that aren't even important - way more than most politicians.

But "stupid"? We should be so lucky, my friend.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 10:28 PM (As94z)

457

So, Besides being a weather Geek...

I also have trained and knobby fingers that track the USGS Earthquake Scrolls for the state most boned....that be, Caliboneya.

Yes, it has been fartyrumbles much this day....but, to what end you all might ask?

Posted by: Richard at August 26, 2012 10:29 PM (wlisC)

458 Hey, now, I don't trash talk your hobbies, do I? you laughed at my jokes once ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at August 26, 2012 10:30 PM (3RmJl)

459 Robert! Walkies!

Posted by: epobirs at August 27, 2012 02:28 AM (kcfmt)

*Runs to door, stares at knob*

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:30 PM (4ixH5)

460 you for two free cruise tickets if you send $1000 for postage and handling ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at August 27, 2012 02:28 AM (3RmJl)

SOLD!

*Licks stamps like no tomorrow*

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:31 PM (4ixH5)

461 but, to what end you all might ask? California ... tumbles into the sea ... That'll be the day I go back to Annandale ...

Posted by: Coppery Dan at August 26, 2012 10:32 PM (3RmJl)

462 #457

In the fine print for those Euell Gibbons ads, edible is defined as 'can be passed through the human digestive tract without producing severe internal hemorrhaging.'

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 10:32 PM (kcfmt)

463 All right, last chime on the dingdang dryer ... nighty nite, knights and damsels ...

Posted by: Adriane at August 26, 2012 10:34 PM (3RmJl)

464

So, you can walk around San Fran with your cawk hanging out, but light up a smoke and everyone loses their fuckin mind.

Sodom and Gomorrah Redux.....

Posted by: Icedog at August 26, 2012 10:34 PM (PTS+l)

465 Good ngiht, Adriane!

Sweet dreams of Ben Browder making your whites whiter and your colors more vibrant.

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:35 PM (4ixH5)

466 In the fine print for those Euell Gibbons ads, edible is defined as 'can be passed through the human digestive tract without producing severe internal hemorrhaging.' : -))) pine tree needle tea used to be used for vitamin D deficiency or some such ...

Posted by: Adriane at August 26, 2012 10:35 PM (3RmJl)

467 There's more talent reflected on that Circus mag cover than we've managed to produce in the last 30 years......

Posted by: Icedog at August 26, 2012 10:36 PM (PTS+l)

468 Sweet dreams of Ben Browder making your whites whiter and your colors more vibrant. if you ever, ever declare war on laundry, we're though! my internet friend. Through!!!

Posted by: Adriane at August 26, 2012 10:36 PM (3RmJl)

469 #458

The thing to do is have a massive data dump about three months before the mid-term elections. See how many seats can be turned. That would be a wonderful legacy for Obama.

Also, Obama expects to make huge bucks on speaking engagements after he leaves office, like Clinton. Making him radioactive for any libs hoping to regain lost ground would be excellent punishment. Some analysts have claimed the Obama family was verging in bankruptcy when national attention turned his books into best sellers. How long do you think Barry and Moochelle would manage to live within their means if the speaking engagement cash never happens?

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 10:39 PM (kcfmt)

470 We don't want to get into a mode of prosecuting previous presidents that were of a different party. At the same time, what if they did stuff that was pretty bad, that a Democrat should even want to prosecute (not that they ever would). Does he pardon Obama, to "protect the office"? Just do nothing? Go after him? Hell, we're starting to sound like the Left Wing craazies (like my brother, for example) who seriously thought Bush would be impeached! But Bush never had a cabinet member held in contempt of Congress. Posted by: Optimizer at August 27, 2012 02:28 AM (As94z) You just go after everyone else. You go after his allies not in government who are guilty. You go after the enablers withing the government. You go after everyone else and make it clear that if they ever support someone like the SCoaMF again, they will be held accountable.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 26, 2012 10:39 PM (sZTYJ)

471 I posted this in the morning open thread, just at the moment of its death: As for "2016", I liked Bad Sister Zoot's comment at #76. I came away thinking that George Obama would make a better President than Barack. He has a better attitude. What impressed me about the movie was how mild it was. Dinesh D'Souza deftly and gently laid out the facts of Obama's life and influences. Most of it was not news to me. Any one of us could have made a movie that was much harder-hitting and angrier. But that would have been preaching to the choir and would have turned off the fence-sitting voters.

Posted by: rickl at August 26, 2012 10:41 PM (sdi6R)

472 The magic numbers on that Circus cover are 27 and 26 with a birthday looming. Those who were soon to die all did it at 27.

It seems to be the age at which a certain kind of people either grow up and accept the rust or burn out.

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 10:41 PM (kcfmt)

473 #473

Brings to mind the classic Buckley quote:
I'd rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University.

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 10:43 PM (kcfmt)

474 I have been watching daily for a year+ now a very wide section of the infamous "San Andreas" stretching from nye above Pasa Robles to south above the Cojone Pass. (sic). LOTS of rumblefarts north and south of this section...but OH so quiet this stretch...so very quiet...I'm going to take the glass half full mentality on this and say all the activity to the north and south is keeping this stretch...RELAXED!!

Posted by: Richard at August 26, 2012 10:45 PM (wlisC)

475 Hey Kids, Rock-n-Roll, Rock On, Ooooh My Soul.

Posted by: jc at August 26, 2012 10:45 PM (ufJKx)

476 Tomorrow is gonna suck.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 26, 2012 10:46 PM (kaalw)

477 if you ever, ever declare war on laundry, we're though! my internet friend. Through!!!

Posted by: Adriane at August 27, 2012 02:36 AM (3RmJl)

Eerrrmmm....

Posted by: Robert puts Operation: Snuggle Soft on hold at August 26, 2012 10:47 PM (4ixH5)

478 Howdy, JC!

Howdy, Richard!

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:48 PM (4ixH5)

479 Remember....Glass Half Full!

Posted by: Richard at August 26, 2012 10:48 PM (wlisC)

480 Tomorrow is gonna suck.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 27, 2012 02:46 AM (kaalw)

When something is sucking, commence with the licking.

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 10:49 PM (4ixH5)

481

This really has been a lawless administration. I took about 5 minutes; the first thing I remember is dropping the all-but-won case vs the New Black Panthers. Yes, there was the sham of pretending to want to help in the Gulf spill while insstead meeting with his goons to see how much hay he could make of it, but that's not illegal. The law said that BP was only liable for a fraction of the amount, and so Barky's job was to enforce that. Strong-arming them for money they were already paying was an abuse of power, but probably not anything you could prosecute.

Libya? Even the Dems were outraged (although they laughably told themselves it was about the money spent). Congress could have reacted, but the Republicans just enjoyed seeing Kaddafi finally bombed. That boat has sailed.

What about stiffing the GM bond holders, and the non-union Delphi pensioners, and giving part ownership to the UAW? How the hell is THAT legal? How can you prosecute?

There's the more cut-and-dry case of making recess appointments, when there wasn't a recess, but I think there's already a few lawsuits about that. You also have a suit over immigration agents being ordered to violate federal law. You could talk about revealing national security secrets, but the President pretty much can automatically declassify whatever he wants.

It appears there are consequences to electing a President who wouldn't have been able to get even a low-level security clearance - never mind about whether he "hates" the US.

But I think the most likely personal litigation could regard illegitimately applying executive priviledge to cover up a crime, or any other involvement he may have had with that crime. But maybe I've forgotten something better. Yeah, it's a long list.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 10:49 PM (As94z)

482 476 So where is that, exactly? I'm not familiar with your geographical references.

Posted by: rickl at August 26, 2012 10:49 PM (sdi6R)

483

475

I liked that very much!!!

Posted by: Richard at August 26, 2012 10:50 PM (wlisC)

484 Remember....Glass Half Full!

Posted by: Richard at August 27, 2012 02:48 AM (wlisC)

The glass is always full. One half with water, the other with oxygen.

Posted by: The Wisdom of Facebook at August 26, 2012 10:50 PM (4ixH5)

485 How long do you think Barry and Moochelle would manage to live within their means if the speaking engagement cash never happens?

Presidential retirement is a pretty phat gig...like around $300k/yr.

Even if he only does a half dozen $50k blow job sessions a year, which isn't too hard to get, they're living large if they don't go batshit crazy like some MLB star with a $20M contract.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 26, 2012 10:53 PM (COZLs)

486 Also, Obama expects to make huge bucks on speaking engagements after he leaves office, like Clinton. Making him radioactive for any libs hoping to regain lost ground would be excellent punishment. Some analysts have claimed the Obama family was verging in bankruptcy when national attention turned his books into best sellers. How long do you think Barry and Moochelle would manage to live within their means if the speaking engagement cash never happens?

Posted by: epobirs at August 27, 2012 02:39 AM (kcfmt)

The Obama's will be fantastically rich in their post-Presidential period. It is incredibly unjust but there it is. The chance of a Gaddafi moment for Obama is exceedingly small.

Posted by: cm9000 at August 26, 2012 10:55 PM (lzvtR)

487 You just go after everyone else. You go after his allies not in government who are guilty. You go after the enablers withing the government. You go after everyone else and make it clear that if they ever support someone like the SCoaMF again, they will be held accountable. Posted by: The Political Hat at August 27, 2012 02:39 AM (sZTYJ) Or let him pardon everybody, and just keep investigating, get all the information you can, and publish it very freakin' much. Make sure everyone knows what happened and who did it, and that it was illegal. Explain the pardon process and that you can't prosecute for fear of destroying the process of peaceful transfer of power. Whoever drops it is my enemy, because they're complicit in one of the worst crimes committed by an American administration. Anyone who makes excuses for it is my enemy because they want to destroy the rule of law, as long as it's "their man" breaking the law. That system can't work, and will not last long. People left New York and California over taxes. People fled Illinois and Michigan because of political corruption. There are people fleeing the US now because things like this show them *there is no rule of law*, and I can no longer argue the point with them. Seriously patriotic people are questioning their allegiance to America. I'm not talking about the long-running hippie left that never had any, I'm talking about people who were raised to believe in America, believed in her all their life, and acted on those beliefs. Now they see a monster.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 26, 2012 10:55 PM (bxiXv)

488

484

If you go to the USGS site and go into the "Quake Maps California/Nevada, you will see what I am talking about. You can even go into the archives and track the data I speak of...

again....I say glass half full.....

Posted by: Richard at August 26, 2012 10:55 PM (wlisC)

489 #487

Don't forget, Michelle was making more that that for a no-show job when they were close to running out of money to support their burn rate.

Posted by: epobirs at August 26, 2012 10:57 PM (kcfmt)

490

489

I have your "SIX" more than you will ever know, and more....naw!!! too much said already...

Posted by: Richard at August 26, 2012 10:57 PM (wlisC)

491 But maybe I've forgotten something better. Yeah, it's a long list. Posted by: Optimizer at August 27, 2012 02:49 AM (As94z) The "300 Obama scandals list" hasn't been maintained since early 2011. That kind of gives you an idea. People *literally* can't keep track, it's like a daily thing (Cloward, Piven and Alinsky at work - overwhelm people with lies and scandals to make them numb).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 26, 2012 10:58 PM (bxiXv)

492

"473 ... What impressed me about the movie was how mild it was. Dinesh D'Souza deftly and gently laid out the facts of Obama's life and influences. Most of it was not news to me.

Any one of us could have made a movie that was much harder-hitting and angrier. But that would have been preaching to the choir and would have turned off the fence-sitting voters."

That's also what struck me about that song by "The Voters". It didn't have a bitter, nasty tone, and kept to the high-profile stuff that anybody can relate to, staying away from right-wing pet peeves and sacred cows. It could have been written by an non-ideological independent voter. Plus, it sounded great! By analogy, I presume the movie has high "production value", as they say.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 11:00 PM (As94z)

493 Has it been mentioned yet? Washington Post poll Romney +1 Another Michigan poll showing a dead heat......

Posted by: AussieMarcus at August 26, 2012 11:03 PM (RstsB)

494 I have your "SIX" more than you will ever know, and more....naw!!! too much said already... Posted by: Richard at August 27, 2012 02:57 AM (wlisC) The system gets fixed way above my pay grade, or it doesn't get fixed. And by "fixed" I don't mean everything, just the basic rule of law issues. And getting rid of the wrecking ball making passes at the economy constantly. If it doesn't, I have the same problem everybody else has.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 26, 2012 11:03 PM (bxiXv)

495 Well Isaac continues to keep everyone guessing on landfall.

Advisory 24 is predicting landfall around Buras, LA about 7pm Tuesday evening. Winds are still being predicted to be 100mph or Cat 2. Then storm is supposed to track over Chalmette and over New Orleans. Then head into Mississippi to pass east of Vicksburg about 1pm on Thursday.

Stay tuned.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 26, 2012 11:05 PM (+/Iv3)

496 But maybe I've forgotten something better.
-
Fast & Furious.

Posted by: Mayday at August 26, 2012 11:07 PM (F3s39)

497 I just hope Isaac doesn't do too much damage. The economy may not have been good during Katrina, but we had some kind of reserves going on. The way things are going now, it's like someone getting cut up and bruised when they have a clotting disorder and a weak immune system. If there is big damage, we'll probably see things not getting rebuilt until at least next year. We're so far in the hole that losses will feel permanent.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 26, 2012 11:07 PM (bxiXv)

498

As to the Obamas financial well-being, I hate to tell you, but they will ALWAYS be swimming in it. There are TONS of wealthy liberals who will see to that. No question at all.

Beyond that, I hate to tell you, but the man's "got skills". I easily see him as the next Oprah. I just hope he gets side-lined as far as having any real political influence.

He WILL run again. He said he wouldn't, and since he is a pathological liar, you can count on his running as being a fact. I wonder if he will even get the nomination, however. After losing the Big Dance, PLUS the House, PLUS the Senate, he may not have much clout.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 11:08 PM (As94z)

499 Seriously patriotic people are questioning their allegiance to America. I'm not talking about the long-running hippie left that never had any, I'm talking about people who were raised to believe in America, believed in her all their life, and acted on those beliefs. Now they see a monster.

/Raises hand

This election is the critical moment for me. If Obama is reelected, I'm out because the fight is effectively over. The dependency state beholden to the govt that he'll create in the next 4 years will be electorally unstoppable. We teeter on the edge right now. Another 10M who have to vote democrat to keep the dole checks coming makes the difference.

I'm not an old guy who'd be dead before it all really goes to shit and loses nothing by hanging in until they die. Nor am I a youthful idealist anymore who believes the good guys always win, because I've been alive long enough to see that's simply not true.

I'm in that middle ground where bailing will cost me dearly to execute, but not as much as hanging around to be ass raped for another two decades would. I'm still young enough I can start again somewhere else.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 26, 2012 11:10 PM (COZLs)

500 490 I don't see a link for "Quake Maps".

Posted by: rickl at August 26, 2012 11:11 PM (sdi6R)

501 Isaac trashed my roof. I got about a dozen leaks now and buckets all over the attic. There was a period here in WPB near my house where there were definitely hurricane force winds for about an hour. You get that kinda locally isolated stuff within feeder bands occasionally.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 26, 2012 11:15 PM (COZLs)

502 The democrats chose their spokespuppet 4 years ago, and immediately tethererd him to a teleprompter. After 4 years, the teleptompter is being dragged out again. I don't see this as a real sign of progress within the Obama campaign.

Posted by: bergerbilder at August 26, 2012 11:16 PM (j+Izh)

503 New Black Panther Party, Obamacare, California AG, Gulf cleanup, Gulf drilling ban, Subsidizing Brazilian exploitation in the Gulf, EPA abuses of law, repeated violation of court orders, interfering with local cases ("cops acted stupidly," others), Fast and Furious, Gangwalker (Indiana and Chicago gunwalking), Grenadewalker (forget the name, Honduras gangs, out of Florida), Border enforcement, Birth Control mandate for Catholics but not Muslims, Kill lists, undeclared war in Libya, GM takeover and lies about process, dealer shutdowns by party donation, Pension theft for unions and lies about it, Solyndra, Lightsquared, and numerous other donor payoffs, including failure to investigate Corzine, security leaks, especially special forces information... Just from memory, and I ran out of energy, not memory.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 26, 2012 11:16 PM (bxiXv)

504

"495Has it been mentioned yet?

Washington Post poll Romney +1
Another Michigan poll showing a dead heat......"

I don't know, but the polls showing Brown up by 5 or 6 in MA seem more important to me. I have an actual mathematical model for the probabilities now (reagrding the Senate), in an Excel spreadsheet. But putting it simply, you start with 47, trade NE for ME, and then drop down to 44, because NV, IN, and MA are in play.

From 44, we have a lead of at least 7 in ND, WI, and NV, so those are likely wins - putting you back up to 47. Then you have CT(!), IN, MA, MT, OH, and VA, which are all either dead heats, or the R has a small but noticable advantage. We will probably win at least half of them, which gets us to 50.

That was the analysis BEFORE the new MA poll, which makes MA a likely win, instead of a slight advantage.

Anyway, I'm giving us about a 78% chance of having at least 50 after this election, and a 57% chance of at least 51. That'll go up after Jesus resigns his race in MO.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 11:19 PM (As94z)

505 The dependency state beholden to the govt that he'll create in the next 4 years will be electorally unstoppable. Posted by: @PurpAv at August 27, 2012 03:10 AM (COZLs) If it lasts four years. We have 221 trillion in unfunded liabilities, the left wants to spend FASTER, and Europe and Asia are about to go broke. There's a critical mass of idiots who think they can make *real* magic happen if they try hard enough, seriously evil radicals who want a collapse, and unethical powermongers who think they will be riding high afterward. Nobody comes off better if that happens.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 26, 2012 11:20 PM (bxiXv)

506 ""I'm in that middle ground where bailing will cost me dearly to execute, but not as much as hanging around to be ass raped for another two decades would. I'm still young enough I can start again somewhere else.""

Me too, but I wouldn't know where to go. I'm totally convinced that the planet sucks.

Posted by: Berserker at August 26, 2012 11:21 PM (FMbng)

507 I'm totally convinced that the planet sucks.

Posted by: Berserker at August 27, 2012 03:21 AM (FMbng)

===

Hey!! They told me that was gravity. Lied to again. dammit, I'm gullible.

Posted by: jc at August 26, 2012 11:23 PM (ufJKx)

508

496

Though I will admit to many times of pure effin silly on this site, I will say to you now my friend..."We turn the helm HARD to starboard, and HOIST ALL SAILS INTO THE WIND! CREWS TO THE CANNON DECKS! OFFICERS TAKE YOUR CHARGES!! It is going to be like THIS....I Hope...no kidding.....this is IT!

Posted by: Richard at August 26, 2012 11:24 PM (wlisC)

509 I ran out of energy, not memory

The lawlessness of the Obama administration exceeds that of most corrupt 3rd world dictatorships. Its this way because dictators need to keep a country on life support to keep living large. They're not looking to destroy it as Obama is.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 26, 2012 11:24 PM (COZLs)

510 Me too, but I wouldn't know where to go. I'm totally convinced that the planet sucks.

Posted by: Berserker at August 27, 2012 03:21 AM (FMbng)

1. Move to Africa

2. Become powerful druglord

3. ???

4. PROFIT!

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 11:25 PM (4ixH5)

511 Me too, but I wouldn't know where to go. I'm totally convinced that the planet sucks. Posted by: Berserker at August 27, 2012 03:21 AM (FMbng) Utah. It's geographically isolated and most of the people have values of some sort. Don't get me wrong, there's corruption and stupidity there, but less than LA or NYC. Or Mexico or Honduras or the Phillipines. Seriously, how utterly, monumentally, abyssally stupid do you have to be to take the 900 lb gorilla of nations in history and piss it down your leg?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 26, 2012 11:25 PM (bxiXv)

512

502

Dude,

USGS "Quake Maps", California/Nevada.....try again!

Posted by: Richard at August 26, 2012 11:26 PM (wlisC)

513 Move to Africa2. Become powerful druglord3. ???4. PROFIT!
Posted by: Robert at August 27, 2012 03:25 AM

Trust me, it was on the list of possibilities. lol

Posted by: Berserker at August 26, 2012 11:28 PM (FMbng)

514

"This election is the critical moment for me. If Obama is reelected, I'm out because the fight is effectively over. The dependency state beholden to the govt that he'll create in the next 4 years will be electorally unstoppable. We teeter on the edge right now."

The people you're you're talking about still believe very much in America. They just don't believe in their fellow Americans.

I hear you, but "shame on you". George Washington faced a hell of a lot worse than you ever will. What would Ronald Reagan say? Suck it up, kid!

That being said, I heard a psychiatrist talking on some Fox show, and she spoke of a frame of mind that she was worried about - when life becomes just too complicated and difficult for people to deal with, and then their spirit breaks, and they just want to be taken care of. Scary, scary stuff.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 11:29 PM (As94z)

515 seriously evil radicals who want a collapse, and unethical powermongers who think they will be riding high afterward.

They'll all be dangling from lamp posts if the collapse survivors ever get a hold of them.

These evil toads don't understand just how frail the veneer of civilization is, but they'll find out if they instigate a massive collapse.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 26, 2012 11:29 PM (COZLs)

516

I'm tired,

should go....yet I still have a half a bottle of good North Coast CAB to finish.

Can I add anything to the thread? I'll leave it up to the posting hoard,

That's fair I think....

Posted by: Richard at August 26, 2012 11:33 PM (wlisC)

517 That Wapo poll has twitter all in a froth. There's blood in the water folks

Posted by: Zakn at August 26, 2012 11:33 PM (LG3ga)

518 Posted by: Optimizer at August 27, 2012 02:49 AM (As94z)

There needs to be something in the law about "going private".

"Going private" means you can't run for Federal elected office, you can't be a Federal appointee or employee, you can't lobby, you can't consult for the Feds, the Feds cannot issue a check in your name, and -- just for fun -- it's five years in Guantanamo solitary if you ever set foot in the District of Columbia for the rest of your life. If you want to run a chain of pizza places in the midwest, knock yourself out. Want to use your influence in the Big Game?.....sorry.

And the requirements for "going private" should be much less than impeachment.....and much less susceptible to partisan influence. I'd start with voting for or signing a budget with a deficit......next election, you're "going private". Having a law overturned as "unconstitutional" -- anyone who voted for or signed it can "go private". Spending funds without a budget....sounds like a good reason to "go private" to me.

Frankly, though, I wouldn't mind seeing it extended to 3 parking tickets in 2 years.....being a Federal employee is an honor, not an entitlement.

Note that it is not a removal from office -- that's "impeachment" and has its own rules. This is merely saying that your current status in the Federal Government is your last.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 26, 2012 11:35 PM (kaalw)

519 506 more interesting out of the MA poll was Obama leading Romney by only 11..... A state he won by 25 or something in 2008

Posted by: AussieMarcus at August 26, 2012 11:35 PM (RstsB)

520

"513 ... Utah. It's geographically isolated and most of the people have values of some sort."

Reagan had some sort of quote about this. Something a guy from Cuba, or someplace said to him, about hiw if we ever went to shit, then where would everybody who seeks to escape oppression have to go?

I've never been more concerned about an election before in my life, and I've seen LOTS of them.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 11:35 PM (As94z)

521

"521506

more interesting out of the MA poll was Obama leading Romney by only 11..... A state he won by 25 or something in 2008"

I am always amazed when I'm reminded that SOME actual Americans still live in the state where the Revolution was born. (On a side note, my brother once pointed out to me that NYC has never, ever been on the same page with the rest of the country).

On that happy note, I shall sign off! 'Night all...

Posted by: Optimizer at August 26, 2012 11:41 PM (As94z)

522 Apparently the LA Times, (a thing people used to read), is none too thrilled by the latest movie coming out about presidunce. QUOTE: What has Michael Moore Â— and digital technology Â— wrought? Now anyone with a political agenda and low-cost digital camera can make a movie and call it a documentary. Even enterprises that at best are vanity projects and at worst badly disguised and overly long attack ads are taken seriously by audiences Â— and box-office observers. UNQUOTE --- Oh Micheal! What hast though done to us propagandists!!!

Posted by: Up with people! at August 26, 2012 11:43 PM (kzFo5)

523 George Washington faced a hell of a lot worse than you ever will.

If someone can show me a plausible scenario that avoids complete collapse if Obama is reelected and has another 4 years to do damage, I'm eager to hear it.

I only need one to hang my hopes on, but it does need to be viable. Really viable.

The colonists also had viable fallback position if they lost -- go back to being British colonies. The instigators would be executed of course, but for the bulk of the populace, life would go on as usual.

We got no fallback position. the clusterfuck we're in right now constrains options and action dramatically. We're being taxed at a rate Washington and his peers would have considered unimaginable.

Punitive taxation will be Obama's weapon. He'll suck the wealth right out of anybody who crosses him. This is where the colonists had an advantage, they had a number of wealthy backers who risked everything. Most lost everything too.

And even if we win, we're still faced with a fast breeding dependency population. Ayers plan was to simply murder 25M or so of the malcontents and the rest would fall in line.

This fight is already over. In the long run been decided by demographics. The commies never give up. Ever. They just wait until moments of weakness to reemerge.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 26, 2012 11:43 PM (COZLs)

524 gotta go Kids. CYA.

Posted by: jc at August 26, 2012 11:45 PM (ufJKx)

525 514 502 Dude, USGS "Quake Maps", California/Nevada.....try again! I was looking for a link but didn't see one. I had to type "quake maps" into the search box and then I found it.

Posted by: rickl at August 26, 2012 11:45 PM (sdi6R)

526 Good night, JC.

Good night, Optimizer.

Posted by: Robert at August 26, 2012 11:49 PM (4ixH5)

527 That the Left, embodied by Obama and the Democrat Party correctly sees unfettered abortion as a political plus, is incontrovertible proof of the moral decline of America.

Posted by: cm9000 at August 26, 2012 11:51 PM (lzvtR)

528 516 I hear you, but "shame on you". George Washington faced a hell of a lot worse than you ever will. What would Ronald Reagan say? Suck it up, kid! Maybe so, but I don't blame any American who decides to leave. There were lots of Germans in the 1930s, both Jew and non-Jew, who saw the writing on the wall and emigrated. Nobody blames them today. Me, I'm too old and set in my ways to go anywhere. I'll make my stand right here if it comes to that. But I don't blame anybody who thinks that it's time to get the hell out of Dodge.

Posted by: rickl at August 26, 2012 11:58 PM (sdi6R)

529 524 Apparently the LA Times, (a thing people used to read), is none too thrilled by the latest movie coming out about presidunce. Posted by: Up with people! at August 27, 2012 03:43 AM (kzFo5) Has the LA Times released the Khalidi tape yet? They have no room to complain about anyone, they're nothing but an ad page for the Democrats. NOTHING BUT. A complete betrayal to their so-called profession. I have nothing for the MFM but FY.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 26, 2012 11:59 PM (bxiXv)

530 I hope Optimizer doesn't have any insurance, otherwise he's a little hypocritical - if people who plan for failures are cowards, why would a brave man have insurance? I know he was trying to cheer people up - just in the dumbest way possible, by insulting them. Why we're the stupid party, reason #238.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 27, 2012 12:01 AM (bxiXv)

531

525

Well then my worried, concerned PURP.

Weakness will not be an option. Only a Win come November, plus the will to correct the damage done and remove the land mines laid by this current pack of JACKELS/COMMIES/ANTI AMERICANS and we will restore this greatest nation to the status that it should enjoy.....yes a very tough job. yet this IS AMERICA!!! WE SHINE IN THIS TYPE OF BULL-SHIT!!

Have NO fear...AMERICA will still be here...

Posted by: Richard at August 27, 2012 12:01 AM (wlisC)

532 OFH - Obama remembers Niel Armstrong by putting a picture of *himself* looking at the night sky on the internet. It would be comical if it wasn't for the giant list of crimes, scandals, scams and lies.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 27, 2012 12:02 AM (bxiXv)

533 There's another brief band of Cat 1 hurricane force shit moving through WPB right now.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 27, 2012 12:03 AM (COZLs)

534 534 OFH - Obama remembers Niel Armstrong by putting a picture of *himself* looking at the night sky on the internet. OK, with that, I'm outta here. I should have been in bed a couple hours ago. Good night, all.

Posted by: rickl at August 27, 2012 12:07 AM (sdi6R)

535 Angle brackets made my *facepalm* disappear.

Posted by: rickl at August 27, 2012 12:07 AM (sdi6R)

536

534

I do so want him to do something.....very epic and stupid!

Just to prove the point....NOT that he hasn't already done so many stupid moves that the MSM has ignored, I want him to do something that makes the MSM eyeballs click together like thunder....and I think he will .....very soon!

Because...after all, he is the "O" first and foremost....

Posted by: Richard at August 27, 2012 12:14 AM (wlisC)

537 Well then my worried, concerned PURP

I'm not really worried or concerned per se. Something will emerge from the ashes, it always does. But it will be greatly diminished. When empires fall, its messy too. It can take many decades before the new order is sorted out.

Historically, empires such as ours are very good at fighting external threats, and the Unites State has been the best at doing that that has EVER existed..even better than the British empire in its prime.

What kills empires is internal rot and corruption though, not external threats. We got a bad bad case of this and its not being hidden very well anymore. People are starting to notice. People inside and outside the USA. The USA brand has been tarnished. That's eventually going to reverberate throughout all aspects of the system. There's already international talk of going off the dollar as a benchmark currency thanks to bomber Ben's handiwork. That's people noticing the brand tarnishing.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 27, 2012 12:18 AM (COZLs)

538

539

My friend,

We will mostly be WORKING inward after 2012 with a Romney win!

Count on it!!

Posted by: Richard at August 27, 2012 12:22 AM (wlisC)

539 One of the hallmarks of of Obama's 2'nd term will be the re-colononization of Africa. We, as a nation, will not be part of it, and as such, will not reap any rewards. But China, Russia, other mideast and eastern coutries will immensely profit. No, we will not be part of it.

Posted by: bergerbilder at August 27, 2012 12:44 AM (j+Izh)

540

This I say "Goodnight!" with,

We as a nation, have been here before. The absolute GREATNESS of our founding document known as the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA has withstood multiple assualts over the past 200

+ years. Yet, HERE WE ARE MOTHER FUCKERS!!!! HERE WE ARE....

and no bitch by the name of Obama is even coming close this time!!!

jus so you posing trolls all know....Barry is toast....deal with it while we send your commune back to the 60's and bury it DEEP,DEEP,DEEP!!!!!

IN YOUR FACE....YES

Posted by: Richard at August 27, 2012 12:46 AM (wlisC)

541 Romney can't undo 80 years of flawed policy in 4 years though. It will take several decades to right this ship if it is even possible anymore.

The American public's impatience is what will seal its fate. After 4 or 8 years of Romney they'll give it back to the Democrats to wreck again.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 27, 2012 12:48 AM (COZLs)

542
Still awake PA? How's the storm brewing?

Posted by: Legitimate Rape at August 27, 2012 12:51 AM (tOkJB)

543

I will see ya in a bar 2 years into Romney and I will drink to your wrongness!

Posted by: Richard at August 27, 2012 01:19 AM (wlisC)

544

Night Robert.....(sorry)

Night M and M's

Posted by: Richard at August 27, 2012 01:34 AM (wlisC)

545 Good night, Richard!

Posted by: Robert at August 27, 2012 01:45 AM (4ixH5)

546 Sorry for what? Did I miss something?

Posted by: Robert at August 27, 2012 01:45 AM (4ixH5)

547 489Mero, Present!

Posted by: sven10077 at August 27, 2012 02:40 AM (LRFds)

548 As Maetenloch wrote, "It was his piloting skills, technical ability and absolute unflappability during an emergency that made him a favorite of the NASA brass."

True enough. We don't have any pilots of his class today -- or at least we don't hear about them. (Possible reason: NASA is on order to perform "Muslim outreach.")

Those unflappable space pilots Heinlein wrote about back in the Forties and Fifties: they don't seem so implausible when you read about Armstrong and his contemporaries.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 27, 2012 10:26 AM (exvgC)

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