September 18, 2012

Overnight Open Thread (9-18-2012)
— Maetenloch

So Who Isn't Paying Income Tax?

Well the short answer is about 47% of American households which is Romney was getting at with his 'gaffe' comment. And the moral hazard of not paying any income tax at all is that you become insulated and indifferent to the costs of ever higher government spending and growing tax rates. So why not take all the guvvie bennies you can get - it's not gonna cost you anything.

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And here's a breakdown of which states have the most non-income tax payers. And you can see that the 10 states with the lowest average incomes are also the states with the fewest tax payers - which is not surprising given how progressive our income tax rates are.

Now this is supposed to undermine Romney's point since it makes it appear that the (literally) red states are also net takers - but the colors are misleading since the percentage of non-payers doesn't vary by all that much across the country. Is New York with its 35% of no-payers really more virtuous than Texas with 39%? I doubt it.

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Syria Approaching the WMD 'Red Line'?

Obama has warned Syria that using chemical weapons would trigger an American military response. But it appears that Assad has decided that if he goes down, it will be with no weapon left unfired.

Syria tested firing systems for poison gas shells at the country's largest chemical weapons research center at Safira, east of Aleppo, last month, German weekly Der Spiegel reported on Monday, citing statements from various witnesses.

According to the report, Iranian Revolutionary Guard officers were flown in by helicopter to witness the testing.

Several empty shells, designed to carry chemical weapons, were fired by tanks and helicopters in a desert location near the research center, Der Spiegel quoted the witnesses as saying.
When Syria recently confirmed its WMD weaponry (perhaps the worst-kept secret in the Middle East), the Assad government vowed they would only be used against "outside" forces. But that's a hollow vow. Collectively, Bashir Assad and his late father slaughtered tens of thousands of Syrians to maintain their hold on power. The younger Assad has no qualms about using chemical weapons against the rebels in Aleppo or other locations.

The recent test was also aimed at gauging outside reaction, particularly from Israel and the United States. Judging from Israeli media coverage, it's clear that Prime Minister Netanyahu and his advisers are paying very close attention. As for the U.S., it's difficult to say. so far, there's been no public reaction from the White House or the Pentagon, and with President Obama MIA from recent intelligence briefings, there are concerns about how much attention the activity is receiving at the highest levels of our government.

Could the Taliban Kill Prince Harry?

Short answer: Surprisingly easily given how they were able to penetrate Camp Bastion.

More than six years later, the area remains hostile.  Open warfare continues, and we just permitted the Taliban to destroy about $200 million dollars' worth of assets.  Short of digging an epic tunnel, there is no way to approach Bastion unseen.  The Taliban still managed to breach what should have been one of the most heavily guarded military facilities in the world.  Someone needs to be fired.
The Afghan military is loaded with turncoats, moles, infiltrators, and drug-addled lunatics.  They prove this practically weekly.  Last year, a long-time Afghan Air Force Colonel, a helicopter pilot, went berserk and killed nine Americans.

The Afghan Air Force might as well be the National Reconnaissance Office for the Taliban.  One crewmember with a camera can get all of the latest imagery from many bases in his area.  But aside from that, what if another rogue Afghan pilot decides to go lethal?  We have been training their M-17 helicopter pilots to fire rockets.

...If the rogue MI-17 is armed with rockets, the pilot has more options.  Once the attack has begun he could loiter over the base firing machine guns, and if he is not shot down, he could kamikaze his American-bought Russian helicopter into the HQ.  Or he could fly back out and pick up another three dozen commandos and drop them off on another part of base, and then crash into HQ.  If the enemy works hard and luck is on their side, they could take out dozens of aircraft.

The MI-17V5 will carry about 10,000 pounds of cargo.  If they wanted to play it differently, the rogue MI-17 pilot could land and quickly have a 10,000 pound bomb loaded, something they might have practiced and perfected in Pakistan.  They could fly over the airport and wipe out a billion dollars worth of aircraft, Prince Harry, and some Generals.  Especially so if they had two rogue helicopters at once.  The first could be a giant bomb, and a minute later three dozen commandos dressed like Americans could pile out, and the surviving helicopter could continue to ferry in commandoes until he is shot down or out of gas.  Bastion is not impenetrable.

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Everyone KNOWS That Reagan Created the Homeless Problem

And the media relentlessly repeats this 'fact' but of course it's not really a fact at all as our own Christopher Taylor points out:

For some reason the "Reagan closed the asylums and filled our streets with loonies" myth is one of the strongest and oldest in our society. And yes, its a myth.

The truth is, many mentally ill people were removed from hospitals and asylums and set out on their own. That happened because of several court cases, the most critical one being a Supreme Court case in 1975 called O'Connor v. Donaldson. The court ruled that someone may not be incarcerated in a mental institution against their will unless they are a danger to themselves or society. To do so would be a violation of their basic civil rights to liberty and as a result many people who had been thrown into these institutions were set free.

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How Secure is your PIN Number Really?

Probably not so much since just 20 PINs are used for over 26% of all accounts (see chart below). And a criminal would only have to check 426 common PINs to have a 50% chance of getting into an account.

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The Ewok Version of "When You're Gone"

Marines Who Love Space Marines

As an Army officer, Maj. Stephen D. Carey has served tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan. In his spare time, he fights a different kind of battle, one that rages in the apocalyptic 41st millennium. The distant future would be a terrifying realm for a mere mortal, what with all the Necrons, Tyranids, and Tau on the loose. To survive the war-torn galaxy, Carey enlists the help of marauding, green-skinned Orks. He also presides over an Imperial Guard army, because some days, defending mankind is more fun than trying to destroy it.

This is the intricate, intense world of Warhammer 40,000, a tabletop war game played with hand-painted, miniature figurines.

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Teh Tweet!

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1 Ahh ... the real Ginger ...

Posted by: Arbalest at September 18, 2012 06:17 PM (OVVMa)

2 second

Posted by: Pinky at September 18, 2012 06:18 PM (A4X3d)

3 Say what you want about the royals, but Harry fought (twice) for the chance to get to the 'Stan.  Hard core.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 18, 2012 06:18 PM (gA69l)

4 The Ewoks ... it looks like there are 2 distinct sub-species: those that can close their mouths completely, and those that must always show at least 2 front teeth ... what weird Alabama-esque event caused this?

Posted by: Arbalest at September 18, 2012 06:19 PM (OVVMa)

5 Fuck Islam

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 18, 2012 06:19 PM (cDwCa)

6 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 18, 2012 06:19 PM (JMmQ9)

7 Hellllooooo nurse!

Posted by: alexthechick -f u autocorrect at September 18, 2012 06:19 PM (RqXsy)

8 Hmmm, those are some sturdy ankles...

Posted by: derit at September 18, 2012 06:20 PM (ruiF1)

9 Oh Ginger.

Posted by: Adam at September 18, 2012 06:20 PM (/YJYi)

10 I looked at the first chart, and thought it was the Criterion Collection logo.

Posted by: Pete in TX at September 18, 2012 06:22 PM (gVYDt)

11 Since PIN stands for Personal Identification Number PLEASE don't say PIN Number. (Personal Identification Number Number - Arrrgh)

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 18, 2012 06:22 PM (il+Xn)

12 Okay, who is the Ginger?  (I denounce myself.)

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 18, 2012 06:22 PM (gA69l)

13 Harry is boss. His dad, not so much.

Posted by: joncelli at September 18, 2012 06:22 PM (CWlPF)

14 nice hooves

Posted by: Ben at September 18, 2012 06:24 PM (xTHBC)

15 Since PIN stands for Personal Identification Number PLEASE don't say PIN Number.


(Personal Identification Number Number - Arrrgh)

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 18, 2012 10:22 PM (il+Xn)


Too late - the common English usage ship has already sailed on this one.

Posted by: Mætenloch at September 18, 2012 06:24 PM (pAlYe)

16 13 Harry is boss. His dad, not so much.

Agreed.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 18, 2012 06:24 PM (gA69l)

17 Gilligan tapped them both.

Posted by: eman at September 18, 2012 06:24 PM (Wp4rQ)

18 Ginger.  It's all very very nice.  Two things strike me as phenomenal, however - her arms, and her lips.

Posted by: grognard at September 18, 2012 06:24 PM (YBMwY)

19

We hear a lot of talk about "rich" people needing to do their "fair share". We hear the notion that paying more taxes is "patriotic".  Appeals are made to our "better nature" to not be "greedy".  Threats are floated of higher taxes being imposed to hold the productive sector of society to task to make up for the profligate spending of the big government faction in America.  What I'd like to know is why we don't hear appeals to the better nature of the huge portion of the population that is locked in to the entitlement society.  Where are the appeals to the patriotism of deadbeats? Where is the demand that public sector unions give their "fair share".  If we are truly all in this together, where is the outcry for accountability for welfare cheats? 
  The answer is, the political left does not really care about a sustainable future. They care only about buying enough votes to stay in the White House and continue down a destructive path. The mantra of "tax the rich" is nothing but moral greed, plain and simple. I call BS!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 18, 2012 06:25 PM (/LkSO)

20 11 RBIs...SSN #...etc, etc...

Posted by: derit at September 18, 2012 06:25 PM (ruiF1)

21 Ginger looks lonely; in need; hungry for love....

Posted by: Vung Tau, with the Aussies at September 18, 2012 06:25 PM (Dll6b)

22

Maybe the Taliban understands...that if they killed Prince Harry, all their muzzie brethren living in the UK, might not be so tolerated anymore.

 

From what I understand, Prince Harry is rather beloved by the people of Britian.

Posted by: wheatie at September 18, 2012 06:26 PM (Z7b/q)

23 15 Since PIN stands for Personal Identification Number PLEASE don't say PIN Number.


(Personal Identification Number Number - Arrrgh)

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 18, 2012 10:22 PM (il+Xn)


Too late - the common English usage ship has already sailed on this one.
  You usually use your PIN number at an ATM Machine you know.

Posted by: buzzion attempting to irritate at September 18, 2012 06:26 PM (GULKT)

24 I'd prefer to see Marianne in that whore outfit thankewverymuch.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 18, 2012 06:26 PM (jucos)

25 Is New York with its 35% of no-payers really more virtuous than Texas with 39%? I doubt it.
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I was reading a FARK thread on how fat Americans were a while back - especially in the South. FARK having a left leaning message board there was much laughter had at the expense of those fat rednecks.

At least there was until someone put an overlay of the African American population in American that matched the fat map perfectly. This was of course racist, and suddenly the thread was not fun for the assembled  liberals...

I wonder if that might be in play here? The states in the Mountain and Mid West are every bit as conservative as the South and yet they don't show surplus government money coming in...


Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2012 06:27 PM (AUeaU)

26 Roaming.  What hash? 

Posted by: Mr. Dave in SPI at September 18, 2012 06:27 PM (Mt27M)

27 [l]24 I'd prefer to see Marianne in that whore outfit thankewverymuch.


Farm girls FTW!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 18, 2012 06:27 PM (gA69l)

28 Sometimes the apple does fall far from the (acknowledged) tree.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 18, 2012 06:27 PM (Cnqmv)

29 I'm being serious:

Is it acceptable for us to discuss this no-tax-paying-thing in relationship to ethnic demographics, gender demographics, and family demographics?

I know we've had issues with race trolls, but this has some real demographic aspects to it.  These welfare policies actively encourage the destruction of the family unit in a whole host of ways.

As Rick Santorum explained at the convention, if you're married your odds of being in poverty start approaching 0.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 18, 2012 06:27 PM (xutGe)

30 I have heard Tina Louise did not play well with others.

Posted by: eman at September 18, 2012 06:27 PM (Wp4rQ)

31 Those toes are making me hungry.

Posted by: Rex Ryan at September 18, 2012 06:27 PM (1grxW)

32 If Assad's regime goes down, he and everyone he knows gets sodomized and beheaded. There's no reason at all for him not to use chemical weapons as a last resort FU to the world and his former subjects.

Posted by: Methos at September 18, 2012 06:27 PM (6LvlL)

33 Her pointy.....uhhhhh......elbows are gonna hurt someone.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 18, 2012 06:28 PM (611ti)

34 Boring.  Dung.

Posted by: Mr. Dave in SPI at September 18, 2012 06:28 PM (Mt27M)

35 Southern red states low cost of living allows for low income people to live the same if not better than people in other states whose income hits the tax paying bracket.

Posted by: polynikes at September 18, 2012 06:28 PM (ZFXqT)

36 30 I have heard Tina Louise did not play well with others


So you'd have to just bang her by yourself.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 18, 2012 06:28 PM (gA69l)

37 I can't think of "Warhammer" without thinking of "Warhamster" http://www.opusgames.com/dorktower/warhamster.html

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2012 06:28 PM (sZTYJ)

38 Since PIN stands for Personal Identification Number PLEASE don't say PIN Number.


(Personal Identification Number Number - Arrrgh)

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 18, 2012 10:22 PM (il+Xn)

 

 

This kinda goes hand in hand with "hot water heater" and other Steven Wright inspired phrases.

Posted by: JimboHoffa at September 18, 2012 06:28 PM (dAfqy)

39 Another repost of this, updated with the new WSJ/NBC poll: I just finished going through the math to reweight the RCP polls to match the Rasmussen party ID that was discussed yesterday. This is where we started: Rasmussen R+3 Tipp O+2 CBS/NYT O+3 Fox O+5 Ipsos O+3 Dem Corps O+5 ABC/WaPo O+1 WSJ/NBC O+5 Average is O+2.6% When we reweight the polls we get the following: Rasmussen R+3 Tipp R+2.5 CBS/NYT R+7.7 Fox O+3.4 Ipsos O+3.2 Dem Corps R+0.4 ABC/WaPo R+6.7 WSJ/NBC R+3.7 Average is R+2.2% In several cases there was no data to learn how the Independents are going to split, so I had to assume they will split 50/50. I also assume undecideds split 50/50. So if you live by RCP, Romney is slightly in the lead and will win if he can get over 50% of he undecideds. In other words exactly what he said on the Mother Jones video.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 18, 2012 06:28 PM (dX4hn)

40

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 18, 2012 10:25 PM (/LkSO)

 

 

 

Wow!  You sure know how to get a girl's attention!  Love this!

Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 06:28 PM (WGmy2)

41 For some reason the "Reagan closed the asylums and filled our streets with loonies" myth is one of the strongest and oldest in our society. And yes, its a myth.
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So...are liberals arguing that we should be locking up the mentally ill against their will now? You can't have it both ways.

And from what I've seen, a lot of liberals are afraid that they'd be among those committed...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2012 06:28 PM (AUeaU)

42 Is it acceptable for us to discuss this no-tax-paying-thing in relationship to ethnic demographics, gender demographics, and family demographics?

Only if you're going to bash unmarried women, apparently. 


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 18, 2012 06:29 PM (hO8IJ)

43 Stratfor has a cool series on geographic challenges of a few dozen countries. Short vids on the basic physical and ethnic geography that tends to determine the strategic problems the State faces. just search youtube for "stratfor geographic challenge". Indonesia, Egypt, Mali, Syria, France, Angola, bunch of others.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 18, 2012 06:29 PM (ZPrif)

44 >>If Assad's regime goes down, he and everyone he knows gets sodomized and beheaded. There's no reason at all for him not to use chemical weapons as a last resort FU to the world and his former subjects.

He's got money. He could probably buy safe haven somewhere.  Or he could agree to leave his country in return for some immunity. I think it was offered to Qadaffy.

Posted by: Ben at September 18, 2012 06:29 PM (xTHBC)

45 Posted by: Hopeless at September 18, 2012 10:27 PM (xutGe) There is no need to do that and it may be counterproductive. Just use a broad figure and leave that stuff out.

Posted by: eman at September 18, 2012 06:29 PM (Wp4rQ)

46 Too late - the common English usage ship has already sailed on this one.

Posted by: Mætenloch at September 18, 2012 10:24 PM (pAlYe)

 

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I know that's right!

Posted by: Hot Water Heater at September 18, 2012 06:30 PM (QjSgY)

47 And from what I've seen, a lot of liberals are afraid that they'd be among those committed...

From what I've seen, they're salivating at the prospect of locking up conservatives for the "mental illness" of not loving totalitarian collectivism.  Very Soviet.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 18, 2012 06:30 PM (hO8IJ)

48 35 Who cares if Assad uses Chemical weapons against Al Qaeda?

Posted by: Devon at September 18, 2012 10:28 PM (S01Nn)


Chemicals are notoriously undiscriminating.

Posted by: joncelli at September 18, 2012 06:30 PM (CWlPF)

49 Odd, the states with the highest percentage of no-payers consistently vote for the "Party of the Rich".

Posted by: easy at September 18, 2012 06:30 PM (c8xU9)

50 I gotta write these PIN and ATM rules down with my ink pen.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 18, 2012 06:30 PM (gA69l)

51 Speaking of War Hammer - are any of the games good? I saw someone playing one on youtube the other day, some sort of strategy game - but I didn't catch the name.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2012 06:31 PM (AUeaU)

52 Too late - the common English usage ship has already sailed on this one. Posted by: Mætenloch at September 18, 2012 10:24 PM (pAlYe) Irregardless, let's just discuss something else...

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2012 06:31 PM (sZTYJ)

53 Only if you're going to bash unmarried women, apparently.
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Is that a euphemism? Cause I'm down for it either way.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at September 18, 2012 06:32 PM (AUeaU)

54  Who's afraid of virginia wolff?

Posted by: art garfunkels ugly kid at September 18, 2012 06:32 PM (/qvyf)

55 42,

I don't want to get banhammered.  But there might just be a connection between a certain ethnic group going 95%+ for Bammy, and a certain ethnic group not paying any taxes.  And that same certain ethnic group having abysmal marriage rates.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 18, 2012 06:32 PM (xutGe)

56 "Mrs. Howell FTW, lovees!"

...said Thurston, undeterred by youthful impulses.

Posted by: derit at September 18, 2012 06:32 PM (ruiF1)

57 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2012 06:33 PM (6o4Fb)

58 Reagan did cause homelessness. As did Bush I and II. The homeless disappeared with Clinton and Obama as President.

Your post is racist.

Posted by: Whoopi, Billy & Robin at September 18, 2012 06:33 PM (1grxW)

59 Chemicals are notoriously undiscriminating. Posted by: joncelli at September 18, 2012 10:30 PM (CWlPF) Well, Rubidium has always seemed a bit racist to me...

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2012 06:33 PM (sZTYJ)

60 13 Harry is boss. His dad, not so much. Posted by: joncelli at September 18, 2012 10:22 PM (CWlPF) Yeah, despite his military service, James Hewitt turned out to be kind of a shit. 'sup jackwagons

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 18, 2012 06:33 PM (Rhie+)

61 Romney is correct that anyone not paying income tax at all is hardly motivated to vote for a candidate based on his willingness to cut income tax.  Nevertheless, I don't think old people who don't pay any income taxes mentally lump themselves in with the moochers. In their minds--somewhat rightfully--they have done their bit, and in any case, why pay people government funds (Social Security) and then tax it?

Given that people are staying healthy and living longer, you have to raise the retirement age as part of an SS solution. But those in their 70s and later not paying income tax are not going to be insulted by Romney's statement. A lot of them have children and grandchildren and think as much about them as themselves when they vote.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at September 18, 2012 06:33 PM (dN5sa)

62 Only problem with those chemmy weapons is when the wind shifts on you.  SHIT! 

Posted by: Hopeless at September 18, 2012 06:34 PM (xutGe)

63 Yeah, despite his military service, James Hewitt turned out to be kind of a shit.


Too soon!

Posted by: Zombie Princess Diana at September 18, 2012 06:34 PM (gA69l)

64 Odd, the states with the highest percentage of no-payers consistently vote for the "Party of the Rich".
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So this is an interesting point. The left argues it is a case of their purity and compassion, and middle class conservative voters being duped.

But if this is the case, if people consistently vote "against their own interests" then representative government is not a good thing is it?

I think that is one part of why the left now supports a technocratic state with only the trappings of representative government.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2012 06:34 PM (AUeaU)

65 Torchlight II comes out mañana Anyone get borderlands 2 yet? I am retreating from meatspace, lol Spent all night arguing with bill kristol's twin, aka my husband Arrrrrgh

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 18, 2012 06:34 PM (J6kXj)

66 >>>For some reason the "Reagan closed the asylums and filled our streets with loonies" myth is one of the strongest and oldest in our society. And yes, its a myth. When I was in HS, we visited the state mental hospital. We were told that the big plan was to release the patients to live in the community and receive out patient care. We were told that with the new drugs they had developed and were developing, it was better. It made sense since these large institutions were pretty horrible places. This was in Illinois, 1967 or 1968.

Posted by: Redd at September 18, 2012 06:35 PM (Z8Qnh)

67 You usually use your PIN number at an ATM Machine you know.
Unless you're an illegitimate bastard and don't have any money.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 18, 2012 06:35 PM (vDl/w)

68 1, 2,3,4? I have the same combination on my luggage!

Posted by: President Skroob at September 18, 2012 06:35 PM (sZTYJ)

69 I wonder just how influential One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest was in challenging the practice of involuntary institutionalization to the SC?
 
I refer to the book (1962), not the movie (1975), though the movie was great.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2012 06:35 PM (ccXZP)

70

>> I think it was offered to Qadaffy.

 

I chose poorly.

Posted by: Zombie Quadafy's Ruptured Duodenum at September 18, 2012 06:36 PM (sybxW)

71 48 35
Who cares if Assad uses Chemical weapons against Al Qaeda?


Posted by: Devon at September 18, 2012 10:28 PM (S01Nn)

Chemicals are notoriously undiscriminating.

Posted by: joncelli at September 18, 2012 10:30 PM (CWlPF)


Once they use it against one enemy. They use them against all of their enemies, i.e., Israel, Jordan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: MrCaniac, now Steve from Wisconsin at September 18, 2012 06:36 PM (1grxW)

72 Libs would love to classify racism and homophobia as mental illnesses. And speaking of racism, it's crazy that the rapper Ice Cube is a mainstream celeb when he got his start in, basically, a racist hate-group -- NWA. Their songs were filled with lyrics about the joy of killing white people. It's like if Johnny Depp got his start as the lead singer in a neo-nazi death metal group and transitioned into acting.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 18, 2012 06:37 PM (ZPrif)

73 I know that's right! Posted by: Hot Water Heater at September 18, 2012 10:30 PM preach it, brother

Posted by: Tuna Fish at September 18, 2012 06:37 PM (JMmQ9)

74 >>Chemicals are notoriously undiscriminating.

Anhydrous Ammonia discriminates against shorter people.

Posted by: Ben at September 18, 2012 06:38 PM (xTHBC)

75 I don't want to get banhammered. But there might just be a connection between a certain ethnic group going 95%+ for Bammy, and a certain ethnic group not paying any taxes. And that same certain ethnic group having abysmal marriage rates.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 18, 2012 10:32 PM (xutGe)

 

Might be a connection with all those Southern State demographics, too.

Posted by: 66chevelle at September 18, 2012 06:38 PM (QjSgY)

76 anyone else notice how "white" Bozos accent was in the '98 tape?

Posted by: Avi at September 18, 2012 06:38 PM (51xVX)

77 67 You usually use your PIN number at an ATM Machine you know.
Unless you're an illegitimate bastard and don't have any money.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 18, 2012 10:35 PM (vDl/w)


Ever heard of the SNAP card. It ain't for groceries anymore.

Posted by: MrCaniac, now Steve from Missouri at September 18, 2012 06:39 PM (1grxW)

78 I'm not a big fan of rap music, but 'Straight Outta Compton' is a badass record.

Posted by: garrett at September 18, 2012 06:39 PM (sybxW)

79 71,

Most likely not in that order.

Israel wouldn't hit Syria for gassing Syrians.  Once gas is deployed Jordan is done with its constant (and hilarious) border harassment.  Saudi Arabia is to far away.

Those fucks in Turkey, however... why, Assad may decide the time has come to "liberate" the kurds from Turkish oppression, sacrificing a small amount of territory himself to create a buffer-state, carved mostly out of Turkey and Iraq.

And that, that would be a big fucking deal. 

Posted by: Hopeless at September 18, 2012 06:40 PM (xutGe)

80 It's like if Johnny Depp got his start as the lead singer in a neo-nazi death metal group and transitioned into acting.
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Günter Grass went from being a member of the SS to a popular leftwing playwright.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2012 06:40 PM (AUeaU)

81

As we speak, my ex is at taco johns preparing to meet the WMD usage with a WMD of her own.

 

 

Shock and awe indeed.

Posted by: JimboHoffa at September 18, 2012 06:40 PM (dAfqy)

82 Massive headache, so off to bed morons. See you in the morning.

Posted by: joncelli at September 18, 2012 06:40 PM (CWlPF)

83 Well, thank you, France, for what we are about to receive.  Fuckin' asswipes.

Posted by: Peaches is one pissed off infidel at September 18, 2012 06:40 PM (kpCLl)

84 And please address all complaints about ATM Machines and PIN Numbers to the Department of Redundancy Department.

Posted by: buzzion attempting to irritate at September 18, 2012 06:41 PM (GULKT)

85 I'm not a big fan of rap music, but 'Straight Outta Compton' is a badass record. Posted by: garrett at September 18, 2012 10:39 PM (sybxW) ------------------------------------------------- NWA was great. Real cutting edge stuff.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 18, 2012 06:41 PM (jucos)

86 You're no daisy. You're no daisy at all.

Posted by: USS Diversity at September 18, 2012 06:41 PM (0CiTm)

87 Sorry, that was rude.  What I meant to say was, hi, honeys, how was your day? 

Posted by: Peaches is one pissed off infidel at September 18, 2012 06:41 PM (kpCLl)

88

>>Günter Grass went from being a member of the SS to a popular leftwing playwright.

 

Pretty sure he got a nobel in Literature.

Posted by: garrett at September 18, 2012 06:42 PM (sybxW)

89 I'm not a big fan of rap music, but 'Straight Outta Compton' is a badass record.
Posted by: garrett at September 18, 2012 10:39 PM (sybxW)
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NWA was great. Real cutting edge stuff.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 18, 2012 10:41 PM (jucos)


Shit was awesome.  Still is, actually.

Posted by: Peaches is one pissed off infidel at September 18, 2012 06:42 PM (kpCLl)

90 Or he could agree to leave his country in return for some immunity. I think it was offered to Qadaffy. Posted by: Ben at September 18, 2012 10:29 PM (xTHBC) IIRC, several nations offered asylum but Hillary and the SCOAMF were committed to a no-fly zone around Libya for private jets. Kind of tough to fly off into exile if you can't fly.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 18, 2012 06:42 PM (Rhie+)

91 I have a suspicion that if Syria uses chemical weapons no one will do anything.

The Israelis are probably still undecided as to whether they want Assad or an Islamist regime next door. Obama isn't going to do anything now if he didn't do it months ago. And who else cares?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2012 06:42 PM (AUeaU)

92 You bitched about zee royal's boobie picture and nothing happened. What's the big deal, hunh? Is not like they will invade, no?

Posted by: France at September 18, 2012 06:43 PM (3HsdR)

93 You bitched about zee royal's boobie picture
***
Did someone post a picture of Prince Charles?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2012 06:44 PM (AUeaU)

94

So a little anecdote.  Yesterday, I went to a lunch with a bunch of retired, old nurses I use to work with 100 years ago.  One of them (a wonderful, Filapina, hard worker, great nurse) has her hubby drive her (he is often the only man at these things).  He started talking about the Navy Seal who was involved in the Osama Bin Laden Mission on 60 Minutes.  I told him I hadn't seen that interview.  He said "Well, everything you think you know about that mission was a lie to benefit the President, and this guy wrote this book because his fellow seals wanted the truth to get out." 

 

He proceeded to ask me if I voted for Obama in the last election, and I kind of snickered and said "no!"  He said "I was the only one in my family that voted for McCain.  I tried to tell them all what this guy was about, but they wouldn't listen."  I turned to my former co-worker and asked incredulously "You voted for Obama?"  She looked really embarassed and nodded.  She has been a U.S. citizen for years.  She never voted before, and she voted for him.  I asked her if she is voting for him this time.  She laughed and very emphatically said "NO!" 

 

We had a great discussion about America and how our freedom under this president has been eroding away, and what an absolute disaster Obama and the Democrats are.  Apparently, she and her husband use to be Democrats, but not any more! 

 

He was a construction engineer and knows a ton of people who were small business owners in the construction industry.  He said "The unemployment rate is much higher than reported.  It's not just those who left the work force, but those who were self-employed, cannot collect it because they were the employer, and they are still without a job."  He is a really successful guy (was one of the engineers who worked on the WTC back in the day, his firm specialized in high risk buildings).  He also was a small business owner who employed 13 people.  They owned an appartment complex which they sold, and he said they paid $1.7 million in taxes on the sale.  He is still trying to convince his kids (one of which is an Ob/Gyn) not to vote for Obama.

He is making it his mission to inform everyone what a disaster Obama is.  At the end of our lunch, he asked one of the other ladies (a Japanese woman, who is also a naturalized U.S. citizen) sitting near us who she is voting for this November.  I almost fell off my chair when she said "Not Obama, he is a monster!"  I don't know if I've ever been somewhere (other than with my family or my hubby's family) where there were 4 Asian Republicans in one place!   

Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 06:44 PM (WGmy2)

95 Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 18, 2012 10:22 PM (il+Xn) Thank God I'm not the only one who is annoyed by this! Also, HIV virus! (Oops, better go read to see if someone else already said! I'm just too eager with this sort of thing!)

Posted by: Kalneva at September 18, 2012 06:44 PM (cQmXn)

96 Hi Peaches

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 18, 2012 06:44 PM (dX4hn)

97 ZH (yeah yeah I know, sigh but these are good) has some charts from the Heritage Foundation that explore in greater depth the income tax disparity:
 
http://tinyurl.com/9jzudft
 
They've also got an article on a counterfeit gold bar popping up in NYC. Some moron in the last thread pointed that link out but you might want to give it a read if you invest in physical gold.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2012 06:45 PM (ccXZP)

98

35  Southern red states low cost of living allows for low income people to live the same if not better than people in other states whose income hits the tax paying bracket.

 

----------

 

Very true.

Excellent point. 

 

Not all low income people are going to vote for Barky, either.

Just like, not all high income people are going to vote for Mitt.

 

There are a lot of low-income people in Red States...that would rather have a chance to improve their income, under Romney....than vote for Barky, and have no chance.

 

Butt, I really don't think that the 'caught on tape' stuff is going to hurt Mitt.

No matter how much the media tries to spin it up.

 

Unless you are someone who thinks you are 'entitled' to free shit from the government....you aren't going to be offended by what Mitt said.

 

 

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at September 18, 2012 06:45 PM (Z7b/q)

99 On Syria using chem weapons. I don't particularly care.  As long as the chem weapons don't leave Syria or are used on anyone outside of Syria, then why should we get involved.

It's draining Syrian and Iranian resources and lives. Let it.

Posted by: Ben at September 18, 2012 06:45 PM (xTHBC)

100 My Question(s): How and why in the hell did the Majority of States vote for the 16th Amendment? And can we repeal it?

http://tinyurl.com/5n2z4

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 18, 2012 06:45 PM (BVkEs)

101 I pray, actually pray, that every last American is on a plane home right now.  This shit is gonna turn on a dime.  And don't even get me started on the coming China-Japan conflagration.

As I have said all along, this IS purgatory.  We're in it.  It's starting to flex it's evil muscles and there isn't a damn thing we can do about it.  We are so boned.

Posted by: Peaches is one pissed off infidel at September 18, 2012 06:46 PM (kpCLl)

102 >>>Short answer: Surprisingly easily given how they were able to penetrate Camp Bastion. Making sure I can't get basic schematics of the Camp from Google Earth would've been a reasonable thing happen. Alas...

Posted by: taylork at September 18, 2012 06:46 PM (ppNDn)

103 Remember when the Israelis blew up the Syrian nuclear research facility? I bet they are pretty damn happy with that choice now...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2012 06:46 PM (AUeaU)

104 Any bank that lets someone try more then 3 times at a ATM without locking out the account and needed to personal unlock the account at a branch, it is time to move to a different banks. You only get 3 chances to pick one number out of 9999 and get it right. To pick someones pin you have to know the person and if they are really lazy enough to pick 1234.

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at September 18, 2012 06:46 PM (PNDql)

105 Did someone post a picture of Prince Charles?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2012 10:44 PM (AUeaU)


try tampax.com



Posted by: Peaches is one pissed off infidel at September 18, 2012 06:46 PM (kpCLl)

106

Interesting - Living in NYC metro area, I pretty much never see any presidential campaign ads due to the fact that, well, it's NY F'n C and the Dem vote is a gimme.

As I was watchin' my stories tonight, I noticed at least three Obama Forward ads throughout the course of two hours.

Why spend that cash here preaching to the choir unless there is something the polls aren't telling us?

Posted by: madtechie at September 18, 2012 06:47 PM (Eky9b)

107 Sorry, Maryann.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 06:47 PM (piMMO)

108 That #10 pin number. Hmmmm.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at September 18, 2012 06:48 PM (0g1j1)

109 Funny thing about those NWA guys,so angry about white America yet they all got filthy rich(except Easy E,who died).They get tons of commercial gigs,movie roles and on and on.So much for racism.

Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2012 06:48 PM (6o4Fb)

110 MaryAnn - sorry.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 18, 2012 06:48 PM (UTq/I)

111 that's just crazy, madtechie!  i'm in califuckya and the only way i will ever see a campaign ad here is if i go to youtube . . . apparently ny is in play.  woo hoo!!!!11!!11

Posted by: Peaches is one pissed off infidel at September 18, 2012 06:48 PM (kpCLl)

112

Did someone post a picture of Prince Charles?


Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2012 10:44 PM (AUeaU)

try tampax.com

 

One of the funniest SNL skits evah (back when it was funny)  Prince Charles gets his wish to be Horseface's tampon in a giftbox, and at the end, you see her dog pawing at the box.

Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 06:49 PM (WGmy2)

113 79 71,

Most likely not in that order.

Israel wouldn't hit Syria for gassing Syrians. Once gas is deployed Jordan is done with its constant (and hilarious) border harassment. Saudi Arabia is to far away.

Those fucks in Turkey, however... why, Assad may decide the time has come to "liberate" the kurds from Turkish oppression, sacrificing a small amount of territory himself to create a buffer-state, carved mostly out of Turkey and Iraq.

And that, that would be a big fucking deal.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 18, 2012 10:40 PM (xutGe)


Israel won't do anything unless provoked. What I was saying was that Assad may try to make himself the martyr for the cause. If it looks hopeless, firing some chemicals into Israel will bring a strike from the Israelis, and when that happens, does Al Quaida keep fighting Assad or start fighting the Israelis, their bigger enemy.


Saudi Arabia, they probably can't do it, but Iran would love it if they did. Who knows what the Iranians have given Assad in terms of some weaponry.

Posted by: MrCaniac, now Steve from Nevada at September 18, 2012 06:49 PM (1grxW)

114 For anyone who wants to compare the Reagan/Carter election to Romney/Obama... http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/debunking-a- myth-reagan-was-leading-carter-long-before- that-final-october-debate/

Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 18, 2012 06:49 PM (Jk+oU)

115

Apropos of nothing in particular:

 

I saw a patient today (baby) named Wyatt, who had gastroesophageal reflux (spitting up) problems.  I promptly dubbed him Wyatt Urp!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 18, 2012 06:50 PM (/LkSO)

116 BOSCO

Posted by: George Costanza at September 18, 2012 06:50 PM (sybxW)

117 106,

When the welfare crowd shows up to vote, they vote straight D.  Things like that are often about reinforcing other elections.  Or it could be a nationally run ad.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 18, 2012 06:50 PM (xutGe)

118 One of the funniest SNL skits evah (back when it was funny) Prince Charles gets his wish to be Horseface's tampon in a giftbox, and at the end, you see her dog pawing at the box.

Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 10:49 PM (WGmy2)

oh, fuck, running, never saw that one, but now i don't need to.  haven't seen you in ages, how've you been, my friend?  {{{{{}}}}}

Posted by: Peaches is one pissed off infidel at September 18, 2012 06:50 PM (kpCLl)

119 106 - That supports my theory that NJ is in play but under the radar. Same thing is going on in Philly. Those are the two markets that serve NJ. And with Christie and the huge number of Ind they have there.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 18, 2012 06:51 PM (dX4hn)

120 I just checked out the application form for Nevada's SNAP. Getting an EBT for food was easy, and looked very easy to fget fraudulantly. Housing assistance only required a call to the landlord (which could easily be faked). The kicker? they attach a voter registration form at the end of the application. *Sigh*

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2012 06:51 PM (sZTYJ)

121

Hey Peaches!

I am fine, how are you?  Hope all is well!!!

Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 06:51 PM (WGmy2)

122 Remember when the Israelis blew up the Syrian nuclear research facility? I bet they are pretty damn happy with that choice now... Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2012 10:46 PM (AUeaU) ------------------------------------------------------ The Israelis are bad ass. They have to be. My guess is that they much prefer an Assad regime next to them than what they are going to get when the islamists take over. There is no rationality with the islamists and they will start in immediately with Israel. Maybe that is why Damascus will be destroyed as per prophesy.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 18, 2012 06:51 PM (jucos)

123 I just saw this over at RSM's place: http://youtu.be/bQu2SVFF-cU It's got "viral" written all over it (figuratively speaking, of course)

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 18, 2012 06:52 PM (JMmQ9)

124

I just checked out the application form for Nevada's SNAP. Getting an EBT for food was easy, and looked very easy to fget fraudulantly. Housing assistance only required a call to the landlord (which could easily be faked).

The kicker? they attach a voter registration form at the end of the application.

*Sigh*

 

 

You only gets the swag if the "D" is on teh tag...

Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 06:52 PM (WGmy2)

125 The only political ads I've seen on local NYC tv since I moved to NJ last month are for Linda McMahon in CT. Although I don't watch a lot of local network tv. 0 has been all over ESPN though, and I saw him on Comedy Central as well today. Every ad of his I've seen has slick Willie in them, though today's ad claimed the recovery was "unprecedented" and actually meant it with their carefully designed stats. I do hear a conservative ad for a house candidate on WFAN sports radio from time to time.

Posted by: Doc at September 18, 2012 06:52 PM (3HsdR)

126 smite away if you must, but I really think Romney is playing this thing just right.  if anyone has/had a chance of ridding our country of that shit-fuck-killmenow-piece of crap, it's mittens.  God bless him.  Oh, and, could we see a little more of Paul Ryan at least partially naked, please?  please???

Posted by: Peaches is one pissed off infidel at September 18, 2012 06:53 PM (kpCLl)

127 I have no peeni because I cut it off during a drug fueled rage while Bush was president.  For this reason alone you wright wingers should have to pay for my sex change operation!

Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 18, 2012 06:53 PM (/YJYi)

128 Just wait until the Islami's find out that Prince William is the Antichrist. Yeehaw. Pop yo popcorn***.*,***

Posted by: Bubba, not Buddhist at September 18, 2012 06:53 PM (BVkEs)

129 The reason tungsten is used as a filler in counterfeit gold bars is its density is nearly identical -- 19.32 g/cc (gold) vs. 19.35 (tungsten).

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2012 06:53 PM (ccXZP)

130

You usually use your PIN number at an ATM Machine you know.

 

Unless you've got the HIV virus.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 18, 2012 06:53 PM (oX7vY)

131 Does that 28.3% who supposedly pay income tax take into account EIC payments?

Posted by: gm at September 18, 2012 06:53 PM (K0tm3)

132 120,

Ding ding ding.  Once you do a little digging you're REALLY not going to like what you find.

One of the badly-kept dirty little secrets of American politics since WW2 is the democrats really, truly, are in favor of marxism/socialism/communism/etc.

They've spent decades marching through the cultural and government institutions, turning them into party-serving departments.  The goal was, and is, permanent 1 party rule.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 18, 2012 06:53 PM (xutGe)

133 Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 18, 2012 10:22 PM (il+Xn) He's a clean black man who can speak with a negro dialect, if he wants to.

Posted by: Dingy Harry at September 18, 2012 06:54 PM (cQmXn)

134 Purple lipped cocksucker on the gap toothed cocksuckers show. “I don’t know what he was referring to but I can tell you this. When I won in 2008, 47% of the American people voted for John McCain, they didn’t vote for me. And what I said on election night was, ‘Even though you didn’t vote for me, I hear your voices and I’m going to work as hard as I can to be your president.’ And one of the things that I’ve learned as president is you represent the entire country. And when I meet Republicans, as I’m traveling around the country, they are hard-working family people who care deeply about this country. And my expectation is if you want to be president, then you’ve got to work for everybody not just for some.”

Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2012 06:54 PM (6o4Fb)

135

I saw a patient today (baby) named Wyatt, who had gastroesophageal reflux (spitting up) problems. I promptly dubbed him Wyatt Urp!

 

 

WHAT ABOUT HIPAA?!!! 

Posted by: Kathleen Sebelius at September 18, 2012 06:54 PM (WGmy2)

136 Does that 28.3% who supposedly pay PAYROLL tax take into account EIC payments?

Posted by: gm at September 18, 2012 06:54 PM (K0tm3)

137 Posted by: runningrn
........
Thanks for that.. it is heartening.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 18, 2012 06:54 PM (UTq/I)

138 He was a construction engineer and knows a ton of people who were small business owners in the construction industry. He said "The unemployment rate is much higher than reported. It's not just those who left the work force, but those who were self-employed, cannot collect it because they were the employer, and they are still without a job." He is a really successful guy (was one of the engineers who worked on the WTC back in the day, his firm specialized in high risk buildings). He also was a small business owner who employed 13 people. They owned an appartment complex which they sold, and he said they paid $1.7 million in taxes on the sale. He is still trying to convince his kids (one of which is an Ob/Gyn) not to vote for Obama.


He is making it his mission to inform everyone what a disaster Obama is. At the end of our lunch, he asked one of the other ladies (a Japanese woman, who is also a naturalized U.S. citizen)sitting near us who sheis voting for this November. I almost fell off my chair when she said "Not Obama, he is a monster!" I don't know if I've ever been somewhere (other than with my family or my hubby's family) where there were 4 Asian Republicans in one place!

Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 10:44 PM (WGmy2)


A lot of us small business owners are also making a lot less money these days.

Posted by: MrCaniac, now Steve from Michigan at September 18, 2012 06:54 PM (1grxW)

139

Harry is boss. His dad, not so much.

I would not be surprised if the Queen has made arrangements to ensure that Charles never takes the throne. 

Posted by: Alex at September 18, 2012 06:55 PM (ImcFy)

140 Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 18, 2012 10:49 PM (Jk+oU)
---
Go away. Trolls are off topic in the ONT.

Posted by: Methos at September 18, 2012 06:55 PM (6LvlL)

141 Something about this photo makes me both smile and tear up.

I love this.

http://www.irenesinternet.com/animals/dog-not-wanna-see-vet/

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 06:55 PM (piMMO)

142 Hi guys, see that a lot of people are putting out the guns and God comment obama put out. How about the I Won comment? That was saying fuck you republicans, I won and dont give a shit what you think! Come on, its that easy. He also said he will not try to get white males votes, Hello, conservative /radio /blogs guys. obamas got a bunch of them.

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 06:55 PM (EPbpF)

143 Lol steevy when does Barry plan to start this "working" thing then?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 18, 2012 06:55 PM (J6kXj)

144 Here's the intro to Ice Cube's 1993 Lethal Injection album. "The Shot (Intro)" [phones ringing, babies crying] [white guy:] Hi how ya doin' ? [nurse:] Doctor's office, could you hold please? Yes sir can I help you? [white guy:] Yes I have a four o'clock appointment, I'm here to get my shot. [nurse:] Okay, come right with me. [white guy:] This isn't gonna take too long is it? [nurse:] Here we are, here have a seat right here. [white guy:] Oh great, thanks, thanks. [nurse:] The doctor will be right with you, and can I get you anything? [white guy:] Uhh maybe a glass of water would be great. [nurse:] Okay great. [door shuts] [white guy:] Damn, what is taking so long? [door creaks open, funky music in the backround] [doctor Ice Cube:] Yo wussup? [white guy:] Hi how ya doin' ? [doctor Ice Cube:] Alright, let's see what we got here uhh, Mr. White huh? [white guy:] Yes sir that's me. [doctor Ice Cube:] heh, I heard you don't like shots do ya? [white guy:] No I sure don't. [doctor Ice Cube:] Aww you're a big boy uhh this won't hurt a bit, jus' uhh turn your head... [white guy:] Let's get this over with. [doctor Ice Cube:] yeah uhh, rub a little alcohol on there, right here, for you, and uhh brace yourself! [click] [BANG!]

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 18, 2012 06:56 PM (ZPrif)

145 http://youtu.be/bQu2SVFF-cU

It's got "viral" written all over it

(figuratively speaking, of course)

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 18, 2012 10:52 PM (JMmQ9)


THE BEST!!!!!  I bow to your awesomeness for putting this in my life and my hands.  Going out to spread the message. 

Posted by: Peaches is one pissed off infidel at September 18, 2012 06:56 PM (kpCLl)

146

You usually use your PIN number at an ATM Machine you know.

Unless you've got the HIV virus.

 

...or if you're on vacation in the Upper, U.P. of Michigan.

Posted by: George Costanza at September 18, 2012 06:57 PM (sybxW)

147 My redundancy pet peeve which irks me personally on the subject of unnecessary repetition is "failed Obama policy."

It confuses you into believing that there are any non-failed Obama policies.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at September 18, 2012 06:57 PM (a5ljo)

148

123 I just saw this over at RSM's place:

http://youtu.be/bQu2SVFF-cU

It's got "viral" written all over it 

 

-----------

 

Yeah...that "You Didn't Build That"-Mix video has been posted here quite a bit.

 

Eric Bolling played it on The Five today.

Then, Bret Baer even played some of it, in his segment.

 

It's funneh....it mocks Barky....so it would be great if it went viral.

 

Posted by: wheatie at September 18, 2012 06:57 PM (Z7b/q)

149

peaches - I wouldn't go that far to say NY is in play. Casey Anthony could run for Hillary's old seat as a Dem and she'd win.

I like the NJ theory though.

Posted by: madtechie at September 18, 2012 06:57 PM (Eky9b)

150 Purple lipped cocksucker on the gap toothed cocksuckers show.



Top Ten Reasons Why I'm Better Than Carter?

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 18, 2012 06:58 PM (BVkEs)

151 135
I saw a patient today (baby) named Wyatt, who had gastroesophageal reflux (spitting up) problems. I promptly dubbed him Wyatt Urp!


WHAT ABOUT HIPAA?!!!

Posted by: Kathleen Sebelius at September 18, 2012 10:54 PM (WGmy2)

 

*********************

 

Yeah, I considered that, but didn't think 'Wyatt Hipaa' was quite as funny!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 18, 2012 06:58 PM (/LkSO)

152 For anyone who wants to compare the Reagan/Carter election to Romney/Obama... http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/debunking-a- myth-reagan-was-leading-carter-long-before- that-final-october-debate/ Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 18, 2012 10:49 PM (Jk+oU) Looks depressing. But how skewed were the polls in '80 and '04 compared with the ones we are seeing this year? Still...

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2012 06:58 PM (sZTYJ)

153

The Glove and Boots puppet bloggers did a reddit Ask Me Anything today and did all the answers in videos.  They did over 40 of them so far and they're pretty funny.

 

My favorites have been Gorilla's favorite joke  www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEx9M84IlRI

 

And Who would win a danceoff.  www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgP3VCJciiQ

Posted by: buzzion at September 18, 2012 06:58 PM (GULKT)

154 Warhammer and D&D seem to be pretty popular with the troops.  WH40K is really just a OPD with lasers and space orks, so it's not surprising that soldiers like it.

Posted by: Alex at September 18, 2012 06:58 PM (ImcFy)

155

@117


When the welfare crowd shows up to vote, they vote straight D.

 

 

Of course, but half of them show up on Wednesday. If they weren't fuckups, they wouldn't be on welfare.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 18, 2012 06:59 PM (oX7vY)

156 What kills me is the President yukking it up om late night tv when the fucking world is burning.Do people out there not feel this is wrong?(I'm against them appearing on any of those shows at any time but particularly now).

Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2012 06:59 PM (6o4Fb)

157 Hi peaches! Also, our "president" is a SCOAMF of the lowest order.

Posted by: Dingy Harry at September 18, 2012 06:59 PM (cQmXn)

158 141 Something about this photo makes me both smile and tear up.

I love this.

http://www.irenesinternet.com/animals/dog-not-wanna-see-vet/



Aww, poor ol' thang.

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 18, 2012 07:00 PM (BVkEs)

159 A quick point about the chart.  The southern tier states have a couple of percent shift due to two factors, the higher number of retirees, and smaller family owned farms.  I saw this discussion somewhere about two years ago.

Posted by: Tocquevillian at September 18, 2012 07:00 PM (iuY0Y)

160

Top Ten Reasons Why I'm Better Than Carter?

 

 

Sorry, I got nuthin'.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 18, 2012 07:00 PM (oX7vY)

161 ginger oh..ginger..,/my pin number is maryannestrapontropical fruit dreams 1234maim street
hack that mo fo

Posted by: art garfunkels ugly kid at September 18, 2012 07:00 PM (/qvyf)

162 I am no math guy, just a HS drop out that enlisted in the Marine Corps and then paid my way through college but WTF that map is so fucked up.

Based on the 2010 census data
SC having 40% takers with a population of 4625364 means there are 1,850,146 takers in SC
NY having 35% takers with a population of 19378102 means that NY has 6,782,336 takers in NY

but NY is "better" according to that map.
 

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at September 18, 2012 07:00 PM (M3+Fd)

163 fuck, if things don't go our way, we won't have a shitweasel at 1600, we'll have an imam.  this is all getting way too real.  i don't like it.

Posted by: Peaches is one pissed off infidel at September 18, 2012 07:01 PM (kpCLl)

164 When Syria recently confirmed its WMD weaponry (perhaps the worst-kept secret in the Middle East), the Assad government vowed they would only be used against "outside" forces. This is a really funny statement. We're seeking "assurances" from Syria that they'll only use their chemical weapons on Israel. Yay!! WTFFF? I'd rather Syria uses its weapons only on its own people ... but that's me. I guess others like to know that Syria is threats to others. Not that any words out of Syria mean anything .. pretty much like words out of Barky's lying dog-hole.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 18, 2012 07:01 PM (X3lox)

165 Looks depressing.

Gee, what a shock, Greg posts 'depressing' easily-refuted disinformation.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 18, 2012 07:01 PM (ihxKJ)

166 156 What kills me is the President yukking it up om late night tv when the fucking world is burning.Do people out there not feel this is wrong?(I'm against them appearing on any of those shows at any time but particularly now).

Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2012 10:59 PM (6o4Fb)

Yeah, hes not worried, that makes me worried.

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 07:02 PM (EPbpF)

167 What kills me is the President yukking it up om late night tv when the fucking world is burning.Do people out there not feel this is wrong?

THAT!!!!

Posted by: Peaches is one pissed off infidel at September 18, 2012 07:02 PM (kpCLl)

168

Thanks for that.. it is heartening.

 

It made my day!  Out here in blue, blue Seattle, conservatives have traditionally huddled and whispered in hushed tones.  I am seeing people are finding a voice and are now not ashamed to come out of the right winged closet.  Even today at work, one of my co-workers came to me very concerned about the recent polls.  In another room I gave breaks in, the surgeon, another nurse and I were all Republicans, and we were giving our Physician's Assistant a hard time (because he's a Koolaid drinking Democrat). 

 

Things like politics (which weren't usually discussed at work) are being talked about, and some of the people who voted for Obama aren't so happy with him right now.  It warms my shriveled, little black bean heart.

Posted by: Kathleen Sebelius at September 18, 2012 07:02 PM (WGmy2)

169 My PIN isn't on the top 20.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at September 18, 2012 07:03 PM (DoZD+)

170 Oops!  Nasty, old sock!

Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 07:03 PM (WGmy2)

171

 

Stupid Human Tricks and President Barack Obama,tonight.

Posted by: David Letterman at September 18, 2012 07:03 PM (sybxW)

172

Oh, and, could we see a little more of Paul Ryan at least partially naked, please? please???


 

Posted by: Peaches is one pissed off infidel at September 18, 2012 10:53 PM (kpCLl)

 

 

No. It excites the liberal guys too much.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 18, 2012 07:03 PM (oX7vY)

173 Obama wants to lose. He can make more money in the socialist sector. Witness Clinton. Witness Gore.

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 18, 2012 07:03 PM (BVkEs)

174 When Syria recently confirmed its WMD weaponry (perhaps the worst-kept secret in the Middle East), the Assad government vowed they would only be used against "outside" forces.

****

Missed it, but the new Frontline tonight was about Syria.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 07:03 PM (piMMO)

175 I'm so shocked, I'm wondering where that guy with my winnings might be.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 18, 2012 07:03 PM (ihxKJ)

176 Black Swan coming on.

Should I spend the time on it?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 07:04 PM (piMMO)

177

What kills me is the President yukking it up om late night tv when the
fucking world is burning.Do people out there not feel this is wrong?

THAT!!!!

 

 

Yes, but George Bush golfed while soldiers died in Afghanistan!  And he was always vacationing in Crawford TX!!  Much better that Obama educate people on late night tv to the truth than waste time dithering around on a golf course...um...

Posted by: Marv Cloggenstein at September 18, 2012 07:04 PM (WGmy2)

178 Youngest son is working on his college essay for early decision.    They grow up quickly, don't they.  

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 18, 2012 07:05 PM (l3vZN)

179 The press was an important part of the founding fathers conception of preventing government tyranny.They have completely abdicated that job(unless Republicans are in charge).

Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2012 07:05 PM (6o4Fb)

180 176 Black Swan coming on.

Should I spend the time on it?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 11:04 PM (piMMO)



Meh.  If there's nothing better on.  It was nothing special.

Posted by: Adam at September 18, 2012 07:06 PM (/YJYi)

181 Black Swan coming on. Should I spend the time on it? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 11:04 PM (piMMO) YES!

Posted by: Robert at September 18, 2012 07:06 PM (LUnTP)

182 Oops! Nasty, old sock! Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 11:03 PM (WGmy2) How does one get innoculated against runningrn disease?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 18, 2012 07:06 PM (Rhie+)

183 It warms my shriveled, little black bean heart.

.........
Well.. what you relate is what I am getting too.. I would not be surprised to see a landslide for Romney, despite the polls!.  You know the libtards are gonna call fraud and get all uppety if that happens.. but eff em!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 18, 2012 07:07 PM (UTq/I)

184 Youngest son is working on his college essay for early decision. They grow up quickly, don't they. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 18, 2012 11:05 PM (l3vZN) Tell him to use the words/phrases "kyriarchy," "social justice," "heteronormative," and "patriarchy" and he'll do fine...

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2012 07:07 PM (sZTYJ)

185 Black Swan coming on. Should I spend the time on it? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 11:04 PM (piMMO) But let me repeat for the sake of added emphasis. FUCK YES!

Posted by: Robert at September 18, 2012 07:07 PM (LUnTP)

186 Well, then.

I guess I am on my own then!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 07:07 PM (piMMO)

187

Yeah, I considered that, but didn't think 'Wyatt Hipaa' was quiteas funny!

 

 

What do you do?  Are you a pediatrician?  It's always good to have a pediatric expert in the house.  There are a lot of moron kids and babies out here.

Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 07:07 PM (WGmy2)

188 The press was an important part of the founding fathers conception of preventing government tyranny.They have completely abdicated that job(unless Republicans are in charge). Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2012 11:05 PM (6o4Fb) When Republicans are in charge the press just releases national security information to our enemies rather than taking dictation on Barky's treasonous releases. For the rest, the press makes shit up when Republicans are in charge. The fact is that the MFM (not "the press" but that part) never do any constructive job. They lie FOR the left and they lie AGAINST the right.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 18, 2012 07:08 PM (X3lox)

189  anyone else notice how "white" Bozos accent was in the '98 tape?

Posted by: Avi at September 18, 2012 10:38 PM (51xVX)

 

Now he just sounds like a whistletoothed foghorn leghorn who cannot say simple words like "buried".. It 's "pronounced "berried", not "burried", you fuckwit.  He's lost in some fake accent limbo, like Madonna, and he can't even  make a "z" sound anymore...it's all "theesssse", instead of  "theeze" and "housess" instead of "housez".  I swear to god the other day on Telemundo, he was trying to speak English with a Spanish accent, like he was Ricardo Montalban or something.  Y'know, Roger Ebert....no, I will hold my tongue now.

Posted by: 66chevelle at September 18, 2012 07:08 PM (QjSgY)

190

Not where he is applying!       

 

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 18, 2012 07:08 PM (l3vZN)

191 And with barely any time to say good evening, I shall have to bid you all a good night since it seems I shall have to be getting ready for woik. Catch ya'll later!

Posted by: Robert at September 18, 2012 07:08 PM (LUnTP)

192 Black Swan coming on.

Should I spend the time on it?


No. Pretty boring.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 18, 2012 07:08 PM (ihxKJ)

193 The world events have my stomach churning and my nerves stretched like harpstrings. Miserable feeling. keep telling my mom i picked a hell of a time to stop sniffing glue...



oh, but im on a diet and it seems to be working. So theres that

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at September 18, 2012 07:08 PM (r7Ddb)

194 Holy shit, workin' this ONT on an iPad is harder than diggin' ditches! Gonna go in the house and use a respectable appliance. Soon as I'm done drinking and smoking!

Posted by: Dingy Harry at September 18, 2012 07:08 PM (cQmXn)

195 The press is not alarmed by an executive branch that rules by fiat? Democratic senators are urging President Obama to quickly issue an executive order to put into effect cybersecurity legislation killed by a GOP filibuster last month. “Senate Republican opposition to this vital national security bill, coupled with the deeply-flawed House information sharing bill that threatens personal privacy while doing nothing to protect the nation’s critical infrastructure, is a profound disappointment,” the White House said at the time. The bill would have given the government three tools that advocates say are needed to beat back cyberattackers: a focus on protecting infrastructure such as water and power grids, new information sharing on threats between the government and private industry, and new Homeland Security powers to guide the federal cybersecurity strategy.

Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2012 07:08 PM (6o4Fb)

196 Sock fail!

Posted by: Kalneva at September 18, 2012 07:09 PM (cQmXn)

197 Black Swan coming on. Should I spend the time on it? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 11:04 PM (piMMO) It's a pretty shitty movie.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 18, 2012 07:09 PM (X3lox)

198 Well.. what you relate is what I am getting too.. I would not be surprised to see a landslide for Romney, despite the polls!. You know the libtards are gonna call fraud and get all uppety if that happens.. but eff em! Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 18, 2012 11:07 PM (UTq/I) It reminds me Pauline Kael who said in '72 "I only know one person who voted for Nixon." Honestly, its the overconfidence that makes me worried...

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2012 07:09 PM (sZTYJ)

199 Black Swan coming on.

Should I spend the time on it?
***
Good movie but it only made a lick of sense.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2012 07:10 PM (AUeaU)

200 116BOSCO

Posted by: George Costanza at September 18, 2012 10:50 PM (sybxW)

Beat me to it.

Posted by: Z Ryan at September 18, 2012 07:10 PM (tsC/8)

201 I am losing my shit here tonight, time to go preserve the remnants of my sanity.  God bless us all and, particularly, the fine and awesome folks of MoronNation.  We fight!!!!

Posted by: Peaches is one pissed off infidel at September 18, 2012 07:10 PM (kpCLl)

202 And opinions do differ, I see.

Yet, something about Robert's enthusiasm has made me curious.

Perhaps he is setting me up.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 07:11 PM (piMMO)

203 you go, Peaches I just sent the link out to a bunch of peeps who "tut-tut" the blogosphere, but spend every available moment on facespace. I did the same thing with the Blame it on Bush vid a few weeks ago.

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 18, 2012 07:11 PM (JMmQ9)

204

Tell him to use the words/phrases "kyriarchy," "social justice," "heteronormative," and "patriarchy" and he'll do fine...

 

 

I always think "American hegemony", "women were nothing but chattel" and "putative global warming" can also be worked in to enhance a college application.

Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 07:11 PM (WGmy2)

205 188 That's true but they pretend they are doing their duty when a R is in charge,is what I meant.All of a sudden they are very concerned by things they ignore or cover up during D administrations.

Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2012 07:11 PM (6o4Fb)

206 Matt Damon!!!!!

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 18, 2012 07:11 PM (9ek7+)

207 I wonder if the royals knew that Kate Middleton photos were about to be released, so in order to take the pressure off Kate, Harry volunteered to be photographed too.


Posted by: Felt Wrapper at September 18, 2012 07:12 PM (ecmD4)

208 FPCon Bravo! Don't worry, just an exercise here on Base, but there will be no sleeping tonight. So keep me entertained please.

Posted by: Ma Bell, now R squared at September 18, 2012 07:12 PM (uVuwp)

209 Solid foods are highly under rated.I had all 4 wisdom teeth pulled last Thursday. After 6 days of smoothies, instant breakfast,pudding, soup, ice cream Wendy's frosties and mashed potatoes I decided to try for a pb&j sandwich. OH my g-d......yeah it was a bit uncomfortable, but to have solid food was bunk worthy, Tomorrow morning its going to be slightly under cooked bacon....soft not crispy. The holes in my gums can close at any time as the flushing with salt water and a syringe is old, but fuck that dry socket noise.

Posted by: helofixer at September 18, 2012 07:13 PM (Pt9bY)

210 Now you are talking!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 18, 2012 07:13 PM (l3vZN)

211 Posted by: President Skroob at September 18, 2012 10:35 PM (sZTYJ) I'm still going to have to bill you for this.

Posted by: Dr. Slotkin at September 18, 2012 07:13 PM (H/nPL)

212

Wow krauthammer? very eeyorish on what Romney said. Guess he still wants the invites to the parties.

 Why do our congress and senate spend the majority of the time in dc? Internet age, they should stay home, listen to their bosses, and vote  when needed? Am I wrong

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 07:13 PM (EPbpF)

213

How does one get innoculated against runningrn disease?

 

Ha!  I don't know, but when you find out, please let me know!

Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 07:13 PM (WGmy2)

214 Somebody's probably already mentioned this -- I'm too tired to go look -- but...I wonder what that red state/blue state map would look like if you controlled for race. Specifically for African Americans, who are of course overwhelmingly Obama supporters. No, I don't wonder actually. Highly misleading.

Posted by: DJ at September 18, 2012 07:14 PM (0bQPJ)

215 I thought a hegemon was a Jamaican gardener???

Posted by: joey biden at September 18, 2012 07:15 PM (vDl/w)

216 209 Yeah,I was on a liquid diet in the hospital once for 3-4 days.It was hell.Like 4 cups served to me at meals,including "entree" and "dessert".Uggh.

Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2012 07:15 PM (6o4Fb)

217 Aww good, Gushie's here.

I thought of you when I saw this photo on Pinterest a few days ago. I had no idea these marvelous creatures even existed.

http://bit.ly/QAFDTD

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 07:15 PM (piMMO)

218

Democratic senators are urging President Obama to quickly issue an executive order to put into effect cybersecurity legislation killed by a GOP filibuster last month.

 

 

Yeah, the new media is killing these basTURDS.

Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 07:15 PM (WGmy2)

219 Can I volunteer for Romney's campaign anonymously? I'll never find work again if "they" find out... Any ideas?

Posted by: Dr. Slotkin at September 18, 2012 07:15 PM (H/nPL)

220 202 And opinions do differ, I see.

Yet, something about Robert's enthusiasm has made me curious.

Perhaps he is setting me up.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 11:11 PM (piMMO)

 

He probably liked the 30 second lesbian action between Portman and Mila Kunis.

Posted by: buzzion at September 18, 2012 07:15 PM (GULKT)

221 Just please be cautious. Maybe restrained is a better word. There are good people in that 47 percent. Many of whom bust their asses just to feed their kids, and would prefer gainful employment to swallowing their pride and taking what steps are necessary, and, sometimes, just AVAILABLE to take care of those children. Through no fault of my own, I'm now paying alimony and collecting unemployment. I pay for Internet because i need it to look for a job. For the first time, I will likely be a burden on society this fiscal year. I hate it. And I will vote for Romney, because even though 80% of the rich people I know are assholes who either inherited it or fucked people to get it, they do the hiring, and governmental punishment of their riches will not increase my chances of employment. So please, let's proceed carefully. There are bridges that need not be burned.

Posted by: Ferb Fletcher at September 18, 2012 07:15 PM (hyP1j)

222 When Reagan was governor of California, the state was being sued for incarcerating non-violent crazies.  He was faced with a two-fer.  He ordered the non-violent nuts to be released.  The state saved a bunch of money.  Folks having to take care of their crazy relatives are still pissed.

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 18, 2012 07:16 PM (he2LC)

223 Bill, you cad!

5th Dimension's "Wedding Bell Blues":

http://youtu.be/IkMhWQgkZ8c

Posted by: derit at September 18, 2012 07:16 PM (ruiF1)

224 213 Krauthammer is hard to pin down,at times he is just great and other times he is a pussy.

Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2012 07:16 PM (6o4Fb)

225 207,

Yeah, doing blow in vegas while banging hot chicks and partying like a rock star.

Twist ol' Harry's arm, eh?  True story, he had a night club installed in his London residence as a teen.

Btw, there is no way Charles is Harry's dad.  James Hewitt= Harry's real dad.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 18, 2012 07:16 PM (xutGe)

226 213 Wow krauthammer? very eeyorish on what Romney said. Guess he still wants the invites to the parties.
Why do our congress and senate spend the majority of the time in dc? Internet age, they should stay home, listen to their bosses, and vote when needed? Am I wrong

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 11:13 PM (EPbpF)



A double whammy. Great post. And no you're not wrong.

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 18, 2012 07:16 PM (BVkEs)

227 One simple change I'd make to American politics would be no lifetime judicial appointments. Especially now that we are basically ruled by the black-robed ones. Give em 20-30 years and that's it. It produces too much anger when people don't believe they are allowed a say in the system cause some 90 year old fucks got appointed half a century ago. The modern judiciary is both unDemocratic and unRepublican.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 18, 2012 07:17 PM (ZPrif)

228 187  Yeah, I considered that, but didn't think 'Wyatt Hipaa' was quiteas funny!
What do you do? Are you a pediatrician? It's always good to have a pediatric expert in the house. There are a lot of moron kids and babies out here. Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 11:07 PM (WGmy2)
  ************ As a Pediatric-type physician, the best advice I could give any 'Rons wanting my advice would be not to take medical advice from a semi-anonymous poster on the internet.  At the end of the day, just like everybody else here I am just some dude who comments on a political blog.  And I keep my personal political commentary separate from my official position, so that I can keep my job.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 18, 2012 07:18 PM (/LkSO)

229 So please, let's proceed carefully. There are bridges that need not be burned.

Posted by: Ferb Fletcher at September 18, 2012 11:15 PM (hyP1j)

 

Bullshit, call the deadbeats out now, or America is fubar"D

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 07:18 PM (EPbpF)

230 222 Didn't reform all over the country in the late 70's and 80's make it just about impossible to commit someone?Which is why we have Loughners running around and that guy at Virginia Tech etc.

Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2012 07:19 PM (6o4Fb)

231 204
Tell him to use the words/phrases "kyriarchy," "social justice," "heteronormative," and "patriarchy" and he'll do fine...


I always think "American hegemony", "women were nothing but chattel" and "putative global warming" can also be worked in to enhance a college application.

Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 11:11 PM (WGmy2)


A Noam quote, and maybe one from Tookie Williams, and he will be getting scholarship offers from the Ivies.

Posted by: MrCaniac, now Steve from Michigan at September 18, 2012 07:19 PM (1grxW)

232 Congress has to be in DC cause inside trading is much harder without insider information. And the best kind of insider information is the kind that nobody writes down or says over the phone.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 18, 2012 07:20 PM (ZPrif)

233 Good baseball being played in Annaheim right now.  Rangers and Angels are tied up in the bottom of the 4th.

Posted by: garrett at September 18, 2012 07:20 PM (sybxW)

234 The Black Swan?

It's a psychodrama set in a ballet troupe.  If that appeals to you at all, they do a pretty good job, and tried with some success to do more.

Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 07:20 PM (ptlfZ)

235 Hey Horde. Could use some prayers. BIL leaves tomorrow for his tour in Shitcanistan. Will be there till "sometime in March." This is his last deployment.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 18, 2012 07:20 PM (GEICT)

236 That MC Obama vid was really good! I'm not predisposed to like that sort of thing, but that one was very well done! Check it out, you jaded fuckers!

Posted by: Kalneva at September 18, 2012 07:20 PM (cQmXn)

237 "get innoculated against runningrn disease"? Why on earth would you want to do that? I've had it now for what, goin' on five years? No ill after effects. Well, except for the severe depression that sets in when I don't see her nic for a couple of days.

Posted by: teej at September 18, 2012 07:22 PM (32Scy)

238 So please, let's proceed carefully. There are bridges that need not be burned. Posted by: Ferb Fletcher at September 18, 2012 11:15 PM (hyP1j) Oh, troll, why dost thou lurk beneath our path?

Posted by: eman at September 18, 2012 07:22 PM (Wp4rQ)

239 Thank you morons, you all keep me sane while lurking(and the occasional inane, snarky comment)

Posted by: JimboHoffa at September 18, 2012 07:22 PM (dAfqy)

240 Okay, I'm now 20 minutes into Black Swan and 15 minutes into the opinion that, whatever the role, Black Swan or White Swan, Portman's character is too damn whiny and insecure to pull it off.

So, is she supposed to have been shafted in some way?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 07:22 PM (piMMO)

241 Ferb,

I stopped and prayed a Pater, Ave, and Gloria for you.  But not for the ex, for you.

FWIW, there are jobs in North Dakota.  If you're in good health, and willing to work hard and not complain, the economy there is booming with jobs.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 18, 2012 07:22 PM (xutGe)

242 217 Aww good, Gushie's here.

I thought of you when I saw this photo on Pinterest a few days ago. I had no idea these marvelous creatures even existed.

http://bit.ly/QAFDTD

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 11:15 PM (piMMO)



you know. thats what i breed. the Famous Ellie shines just like that and is as golden, but she has a black mane and tail and black legs. (Mero saw her) I know who bred that stallion, and hes SPECIAL. Thats why i have the Russian Business partners, and hate communism with a white hot passion. what the communists did to horses was nothing short of criminal. Especially this breed. Communists seem to hate anything beautiful and special, and as you can see what that would do when one of them looked at one of those graceful shining beauties.

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at September 18, 2012 07:23 PM (r7Ddb)

243 240 Lots of ways to take that question, Niedermeyer.  The answers are yes, yes, yes, and yes.

Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 07:23 PM (ptlfZ)

244

202 And opinions do differ, I see.Yet, something about Robert's enthusiasm has made me curious.Perhaps he is setting me up.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 11:11 PM (piMMO)

He probably liked the 30 second lesbian action between Portman and Mila Kunis.

 

 

And then Helen Thomas made her cameo appearance...

Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 07:24 PM (WGmy2)

245

For the first time, I will likely be a burden on society this fiscal year.

 

God love ya, I hope things work out for you. Anyone can hit a rough patch. I think implicitly the disparagement above refers to those who make a career of living off of others, not to those who've had a tough break but are trying to get back on their feet.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 18, 2012 07:24 PM (oX7vY)

246 Hey Horde. Could use some prayers. BIL leaves tomorrow for his tour in Shitcanistan. Will be there till "sometime in March." This is his last deployment.


****

You got it, neighbor. May God Bless and protect him.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 07:24 PM (piMMO)

247 In other news, the Vita is still dead



no matter what Sony shows in about a half hour

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 07:24 PM (tw6Ar)

248 215 I thought a hegemon was a Jamaican gardener???

Posted by: joey biden at September 18, 2012 11:15 PM (vDl/w)

 

*******************

 

Nice!!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 18, 2012 07:24 PM (/LkSO)

249 Mmmmm, Ginger or MaryAnne?  Do I have to choose?   Anyway, lets try to have a reasonable discussion about this.  No name-calling.

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at September 18, 2012 07:24 PM (2Cfu4)

250

Why on earth would you want to do that? I've had it now for what, goin' on five years? No ill after effects. Well, except for the severe depression that sets in when I don't see her nic for a couple of days.

 

Aw, thanks!

Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 07:24 PM (WGmy2)

251 Right on!Give the fuckers nothing(except HE if they keep fucking with us) Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) circulated a “Dear Colleague” letter today urging House members to support legislation that would cut all foreign aid to countries that fail to secure U.S. embassies. “As this is expected to be the final week of legislative session for both the House and Senate before an extended recess, I urge you to take immediate action to pass a much-needed bill demanding cooperation and accountability from the countries involved in the recent violence directed at our embassies and consulates,” Paul wrote. “The bill should send a strong clear message to these entities: You do not get foreign aid unless you are an unwavering ally of the United States.” Paul circulated a similar letter to his Senate colleagues which stressed his intention to filibuster any pending bills until the foreign aid issue is addressed. The letters roll his previous push to suspend aid to Pakistan unless Dr. Shakil Afridi, who was imprisoned after assisting the U.S. in finding Osama bin Laden, is released with the attacks on U.S. installations in Egypt and Libya. “If Pakistan wants to be our ally—and receive foreign aid for being one—then they should act like it, and they must start by releasing Dr. Afridi,” Paul wrote to the House. “At the same time, we must take steps to cut foreign aid to Egypt and Libya—or any other country which fails to secure our embassies—and we must make it clear that, unless there is full cooperation in bringing these attackers to justice, no foreign aid will be provided in the future.” “The timing of this action by Congress is crucial. There is no better time than now to send a clear message to the world that we will not send good money after bad any longer. I have insisted on floor consideration and votes on these issues in the Senate, and will be engaged in a filibuster of the Continuing Resolution and any recess for adjournment until the Senate allows action on these vital matters.”

Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2012 07:25 PM (6o4Fb)

252 That password article was fascinating thanks for linking. I especially loved the xkcd cartoon at the end about correct horse battery staple.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at September 18, 2012 07:25 PM (RZ8pf)

253

Okay, I'm now 20 minutes into Black Swan  

 

 

 

I've already fapped thrice by now, what's your excuse?

 

 

Good night all.

Posted by: JimboHoffa at September 18, 2012 07:25 PM (dAfqy)

254 BCC, I will pray for him and his fellow soldiers! I feel for ya. Sounds hollow, I know, but it's not.

Posted by: Kalneva at September 18, 2012 07:26 PM (cQmXn)

255

Black Swan commercial review parody  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cufj9JRy3F0

Posted by: buzzion at September 18, 2012 07:26 PM (GULKT)

256 Thanks NDH. This is a tough one. It's his last, so everyone's superstitious and jumpy about that, but the real killer is that his 3rd kid is going to be born in November and there's no way he can get back for it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 18, 2012 07:26 PM (GEICT)

257 I've already fapped thrice by now, what's your excuse?

Good night all.

Posted by: JimboHoffa at September 18, 2012 11:25 PM (dAfqy)


only good time to fap is Portman masturbating

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 07:27 PM (tw6Ar)

258 Hey Horde. Could use some prayers. BIL leaves tomorrow for his tour in
Shitcanistan. Will be there till "sometime in March." This is his last
deployment.



Amen brother.

Posted by: Adam at September 18, 2012 07:27 PM (/YJYi)

259 the way I remember it is:: the same fucko's who bitched about 'locking people up' also bitched about the same folks the had let out that were now homeless.

Posted by: jake in ID at September 18, 2012 07:27 PM (2CiZb)

260

222When Reagan was governor of California, the state was being sued for incarcerating non-violent crazies. He was faced with a two-fer. He ordered the non-violent nuts to be released. The state saved a bunch of money.

 

Nope. The cite above (O'Connor v. Donaldson) is correct. California (in fact, the rest of the country too, but so many nuts live here) had no choice but to release lunatics, once the standard for involuntary institutionalization became "imminent danger to himself and/or others."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 18, 2012 07:28 PM (oX7vY)

261 246 Hey Horde. Could use some prayers. BIL leaves tomorrow for his tour in
Shitcanistan. Will be there till "sometime in March." This is his last
deployment.


****

You got it, neighbor. May God Bless and protect him.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 11:24 PM (piMMO)



yeah, may he come home safe and stay warm this winter. and may he spend his time in the rockpile sheltered by the right hand of the Lord.

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at September 18, 2012 07:28 PM (r7Ddb)

262 259 ...and amen.

Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 07:29 PM (ptlfZ)

263 Hey Horde. Could use some prayers. BIL leaves tomorrow for his tour in Shitcanistan. Will be there till "sometime in March." This is his last deployment. Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 18, 2012 11:20 PM (GEICT) Thoughts and prayers!

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2012 07:29 PM (sZTYJ)

264 osted by: Peaches is one pissed off infidel at September 18, 2012 10:46 PM (kpCLl)

Ahhh. Sweetie.  I'm with ya and prayin hard the reality we see before us comes up short and veers sideways into the guardrail.    sigh.

Posted by: Derak at September 18, 2012 07:29 PM (GQZUo)

265 Thanks Kal. You can say a lot about the Horde, but insincerity isn't anywhere on the list.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 18, 2012 07:29 PM (GEICT)

266 God loveya, I hope things work out for you. Anyone can hit a rough patch. I think implicitly the disparagement above refers to those who make a career of living off of others, not to those who've had a tough break but are trying to get back ontheir feet. Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 18, 2012 11:24 PM (oX7vY) It's not just that. It's also that these programs are not supposed to be at the federal level. Further, people should be ashamed to be living off of the government. The family used to have that role before for people who were down on their luck, but they had to deal with family members supporting them on a face-to-face basis. As soon as that job was transferred to the government (most of it un-Constitutionally at the federal level) the people didn't have to worry about the personal shame of having to ASK someone to help them, to their face ... someone they knew and interacted with. The personal shame eventually disappeared. That shame is much of what keeps society straight and working. People used to be ashamed to declare bankruptcy. That didn't mean that there was never a reason to legitimately use the tool, but nowadays we have selfish pricks walking out on obligations they can pay, but they just don't feel like it because they made shitty deals - strategic defaults.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 18, 2012 07:30 PM (X3lox)

267

Posted by: Adam at September 18, 2012 11:27 PM (/YJYi)

 

 

My prayers to him and your family. god watch all our young men and women.

Posted by: JimboHoffa at September 18, 2012 07:30 PM (dAfqy)

268 Thank all of you Ron's and Ettes. Damn allergies are kickin up over here. Lol.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 18, 2012 07:30 PM (GEICT)

269 134 Purple lipped cocksucker on the gap toothed cocksuckers show.

“I don’t know what he was referring to but I can tell you this. When I won in 2008, 47% of the American people voted for John McCain, they didn’t vote for me. And what I said on election night was, ‘Even though you didn’t vote for me, I hear your voices and I’m going to work as hard as I can to be your president.’ And one of the things that I’ve learned as president is you represent the entire country. And when I meet Republicans, as I’m traveling around the country, they are hard-working family people who care deeply about this country. And my expectation is if you want to be president, then you’ve got to work for everybody not just for some.”

Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2012 10:54 PM (6o4Fb)


Sure you are, Barry. That's why you rammed through ObamaCare when 55-60% of the country, including most Republicans, opposed it. Is that what you consider "working for everybody," asshole?!? And I'm sure Liberal Asshole #2 Letterman really challenged him on his facts, right?

Posted by: Slappy at September 18, 2012 07:31 PM (LTbLf)

270 only good time to fap is Portman masturbating

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 11:27 PM (tw6Ar)

 

 

BUNK!!!!!

Posted by: JimboHoffa at September 18, 2012 07:31 PM (dAfqy)

271

253There is going to be so many wonderful side effects to Romney's landslide we haven't even thought about yet.

 

But some not so wonderful:

 

4. A resurgence of domestic terrorism (hey there, Bill Ayers!) by disaffected commies who give up on the electoral process and decide to take "direct action," aka "reprise the 70s."


 

This time we need to execute each and every asshole we catch doing this. It'll cut into Democrat Party candidates for 2040, but that's a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 18, 2012 07:32 PM (oX7vY)

272 new Humble Indie bundle, some great games in it but the creme de la creme is beating the average for the Dustforce soundtrack in FLAC. Fuck it being good videogame music, it's great music in general.

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 07:32 PM (tw6Ar)

273
That shame is much of what keeps society straight and working. People used to be ashamed to declare bankruptcy. That didn't mean that there was never a reason to legitimately use the tool, but nowadays we have selfish pricks walking out on obligations they can pay, but they just don't feel like it because they made shitty deals - strategic defaults.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 18, 2012 11:30 PM (X3lox)


once shame was declared a BAD THING (TM) society jumped in the crapper. its really the only brake humanity has on its capability for evil.

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at September 18, 2012 07:32 PM (r7Ddb)

274 Here is something to lighten the mood. http://atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/NI18Aa01.html

Posted by: eman at September 18, 2012 07:32 PM (Wp4rQ)

275 I am pretty sure Reagan did something while he was governor between 66 and 74.


Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 18, 2012 07:32 PM (he2LC)

276 Black swan is a fucked up movie, fast forward through everything that does not include Mila Kunis

Posted by: jake in ID at September 18, 2012 07:33 PM (2CiZb)

277

I now announce an injustice that must be addressed and fixed.  Kratos is still banned from the blog.  This must be fixed.  This aggression will not stand man!

 

Unleash the Kratos

 

Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at September 18, 2012 07:33 PM (GULKT)

278

I thought of you when I saw this photo on Pinterest a few days ago. I had no idea these marvelous creatures even existed.

 

Holy shit, someone made a horse out of the upholstry from my grandfather's oldsmobile!

Posted by: Alex at September 18, 2012 07:33 PM (ImcFy)

279

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2012 10:27 PM (AUeaU)

 

Well, clearly Idaho's not in that catagory. I wonder if it and New Mexico, (and maybe Texas) are skewed by reservation populations.

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 18, 2012 07:35 PM (chdbY)

280 OK, I'm out gonna fall asleep listenin' to this: http://archive.org/details/NhpArchiveATimeForChoosing (again) tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 18, 2012 07:35 PM (JMmQ9)

281 Unleash the Kratos

Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at September 18, 2012 11:33 PM (GULKT)


What did he do?

Posted by: Red Shirt at September 18, 2012 07:35 PM (FIDMq)

282 once shame was declared a BAD THING (TM) society jumped in the crapper. its really the only brake humanity has on its capability for evil.

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at September 18, 2012 11:32 PM (r7Ddb)

 

Madison- in the Federalist papers- lists shame as one of the natural constraints on our elected representatives- as in they will not want to pass legislation that would cause them to feel shame.  That particular constraint seems to no longer be operable.  Leaving us primarily the voting booth!  Proceed accordingly everybody.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 18, 2012 07:36 PM (/LkSO)

283

276I am pretty sure Reagan did something while he was governor between 66 and 74.

 

I'm 100% sure you're wrong. Read

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_commitment">this </a>

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 18, 2012 07:36 PM (oX7vY)

284 I can't think of "Warhammer" without thinking of "Warhamster"

http://www.opusgames.com/dorktower/warhamster.html

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2012 10:28 PM (sZTYJ)

 

Huzzah for Dork Tower! I always read it that way too.

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 18, 2012 07:37 PM (chdbY)

285

Hey Horde. Could use some prayers. BIL leaves tomorrow for his tour in
Shitcanistan. Will be there till "sometime in March." This is his last
deployment.

 

Godspeed to him!  I pray he stays safe!  Please thank him for his service and sacrifice!

Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 07:37 PM (WGmy2)

286 once shame was declared a BAD THING (TM) society jumped in the crapper. its really the only brake humanity has on its capability for evil. Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at September 18, 2012 11:32 PM (r7Ddb) Absolutely! The push for depravity from the left demanded that personal shame be stricken from existence. For them it was self-serving as they were ashamed of the slime they were - and rightly so. (BTW, just a note: the shame we are speaking about here is personal shame - i.e. individual guilt that one knows others are aware of - as opposed to the shame I refer to when I speak about the muslim world, which is "tribal shame" and has nothing to do with personal actions.)

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 18, 2012 07:38 PM (X3lox)

287 BCochran1981, my nic pasting screwup. That does not dilute my prayers for him and everyone.

Posted by: JimboHoffa at September 18, 2012 07:38 PM (dAfqy)

288 What did he do?

Posted by: Red Shirt at September 18, 2012 11:35 PM (FIDMq)

 

Nothing.  Hence the injustice.

Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at September 18, 2012 07:38 PM (GULKT)

289 Well, clearly Idaho's not in that catagory. I wonder if it and New Mexico, (and maybe Texas) are skewed by reservation populations. Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 18, 2012 11:35 PM (chdbY) reservation populations in ID are fairly small, Montanna and Wyoming, plus the Dakotas may have a res/non res population that factors in

Posted by: jake in ID at September 18, 2012 07:38 PM (2CiZb)

290 you know. thats what i breed. the Famous Ellie shines just like that and is as golden, but she has a black mane and tail and black legs. (Mero saw her) I know who bred that stallion, and hes SPECIAL. Thats why i have the Russian Business partners, and hate communism with a white hot passion. what the communists did to horses was nothing short of criminal. Especially this breed. Communists seem to hate anything beautiful and special, and as you can see what that would do when one of them looked at one of those graceful shining beauties.


****

I just looked up the Famous Ellie. Also beautiful. Is it a sturdier horse? It looks a bit bigger than the Turk breed.

And * lalalalalala* (fingers in ears) I can't stand to think of anyone abusing an animal.

Bless you for the work you do.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 07:39 PM (piMMO)

291 Even Letterman doesn't call Obama president.

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 18, 2012 07:39 PM (BVkEs)

292 what ever happened to Dork Tower and Knights of the Kitchen Table? Local shop stopped carrying them and I can't find them in Previews to order

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 07:40 PM (tw6Ar)

293 Until now. Five times

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 18, 2012 07:40 PM (BVkEs)

294 Were there two ONT threads?

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2012 07:41 PM (t+Sdx)

295 Holy shit, someone made a horse out of the upholstry from my grandfather's oldsmobile!


****

Made me laugh!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 07:41 PM (piMMO)

296

Madison- in the Federalist papers- lists shame as one of the natural constraints on our elected representatives- as in they will not want to pass legislation that would cause them to feel shame. That particular constraint seems to no longer be operable. Leaving us primarily the voting booth! Proceed accordingly everybody.

 

 

Sadly, there is no shame in America any more.  (As I type this, Joe Theisman is on my tv complaining about his enlarged prostate and pimping Super Beta Prostate).  That is why you have Real Housewives of (fill in the blank), Snookie, people tweeting their every stinking move, kids snapping compromising pictures and posting them on  FB, etc.  There is no shame in collecting gubamint benefits (the EBT card has taken all the shame out of food stamps!).  Young girls have no shame as they let their muffin tops billow out from under tube tops and over skinny jeans.  They have children out of wedlock and are rewarded with having their own reality tv shows.  We need to bring shame back into American culture.  (Although, I fear it is too late). 

Posted by: runningrn at September 18, 2012 07:42 PM (WGmy2)

297

Posted by: MrCaniac, now Steve from Missouri at September 18, 2012 10:39 PM (1grxW)

 

What section of Missouri are you in now, if you don't mind saying at least the quadrant.

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 18, 2012 07:42 PM (chdbY)

298

@297-

 

Yep!!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 18, 2012 07:43 PM (/LkSO)

299 39 Another repost of this, updated with the new WSJ/NBC poll:

I just finished going through the math to reweight the RCP polls to match the Rasmussen party ID that was discussed yesterday.

This is where we started:

Rasmussen R+3
Tipp O+2
CBS/NYT O+3
Fox O+5
Ipsos O+3
Dem Corps O+5
ABC/WaPo O+1
WSJ/NBC O+5

Average is O+2.6%

When we reweight the polls we get the following:

Rasmussen R+3
Tipp R+2.5
CBS/NYT R+7.7
Fox O+3.4
Ipsos O+3.2
Dem Corps R+0.4
ABC/WaPo R+6.7
WSJ/NBC R+3.7

Average is R+2.2%

In several cases there was no data to learn how the Independents are going to split, so I had to assume they will split 50/50. I also assume undecideds split 50/50.

So if you live by RCP, Romney is slightly in the lead and will win if he can get over 50% of he undecideds. In other words exactly what he said on the Mother Jones video.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 18, 2012 10:28 PM (dX4hn)


In addition to party ID, I would also like to see the results if other aspects of the samples were adjusted to match the likely turnout, such as various demographic factors. For example, I've seen some of the polls not being outrageously biased on the party ID numbers but have disproportionate percentages of different demographic groups represented in their samples, with those demographic groups just happening to be expected to vote in larger numbers for Obama. I've seen some polls have samples with 60% women and others having people under 30 represent 30-35% of the total sample, which just happen to be two of the segments that overwhelmingly support Obama. Others have had disproportionate percentages of regions and states that everyone knows are going to support Obama overwhelmingly. This is how many of the pollsters play the game, as they will only be judged for accuracy based on how close the actual election results are to their final poll released before the election.

Posted by: Slappy at September 18, 2012 07:43 PM (LTbLf)

300 Hopefully election night is a blow out for conservatives, my gullet can' hold liquor like it did 4 years ago

Posted by: jake in ID at September 18, 2012 07:45 PM (2CiZb)

301

OK, grocery store sat, girl buys over $100 dollars worth of food, 80 something with government credit card,she paid yeah God forbid they have to use food stamps, rest she used cash. I-phone, diamond earrings and coach bag.

Me, kmart handbag I have had for a year, on sale spagetti sauce, noodles and french bread, got twenty cash from debit card. Total $40.00.All earned money from hubby.

Something is wrong with this picture!

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 07:45 PM (EPbpF)

302 Here's some of Victor David Hanson's thoughts on responsibility and civilization:
 
Second, “Don’t have inflated expectations of human nature. Humans are not born, as Rousseau thought, as good people who need to be liberated. Rather, they need to be civilized. Thucydides knew that civilization was very thin. You need to preserve it. We are one blink away from savagery.” He sharpens his point by citing Occupy Wall Street. “Did you see all of the feces and debris on their campgrounds? Is this what 2,500 years of democratization and science have led to?”

“The point is that human nature is capable of doing as much damage as good if it’s not carefully embedded within civilization.” The 2008 Greek riots show how quickly order can dissemble in chaos and violence.

Third, and perhaps most importantly, a citizen of ancient Greece had more responsibilities than rights. Fulfilling those duties embodied civic virtue: “You, as the ancient Greek,  must participate in government and vote. You must raise a family. You must not break the laws. You should own land and produce food for the country. You must be in the militia. In exchange, the ancient Greek received freedom and protection.”

 
Democracy, as it was originally practiced.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 18, 2012 07:46 PM (ccXZP)

303 Ok, so I owe AtC a Sofia Vergara bikini vid. Since AtC isn't here that I've seen, I guess we'll just have to enjoy without her.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 18, 2012 07:47 PM (GEICT)

304 Saw the methodology for one of the polls in CO earlier today- the pollster was instructed to ask for the person listed on their call list of registered voters, but if that individual wasn't home to ask for the youngest registered voter at that location.  I guess that means if mom was off at work and deadbeat libtard son-in-law answered the phone he got to answer the poll questions, eh?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 18, 2012 07:48 PM (/LkSO)

305 Obama on Letterman is in rehearsal.

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 18, 2012 07:48 PM (BVkEs)

306 I haven't been a fan of Drudge for a while now, what with his highly misleading and sensational headlines. He's turned into a tabloid. Yet.... I LOVE that he's nailing Obama at every chance and doesn't even deny that fact.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 07:49 PM (piMMO)

307 Obama doesn't even know what day it is. Yeah. that's a good sign.

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 18, 2012 07:50 PM (BVkEs)

308 Something is wrong with this picture!

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 11:45 PM (EPbpF)

Another fucking thing, I use my supermarket card and coupons whenever I can. This bitch thought nothing of it! I am Pissed..

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 07:50 PM (EPbpF)

309
I just looked up the Famous Ellie. Also beautiful. Is it a sturdier horse? It looks a bit bigger than the Turk breed.

And * lalalalalala* (fingers in ears) I can't stand to think of anyone abusing an animal.

Bless you for the work you do.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 11:39 PM (piMMO)


they vary in size and shape. her gramma is the size of a big pony. (if you are looking at my horses on bookface, shes the blazed face golden one with four white socks. Shes from russia and sometimes they were short on chow.  Ellie is a big racehorse full grown, 10 years old. that stallion is maybe three years old and only half grown. My studs not tall for the same reason, but his dad who broke his leg qualifying for the Pan American games was taller than Ellie.


I have owned the top horses in the US and am considered the most knowledgeable person born in the US concerning this breed. each sire line has its own quality. 


Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at September 18, 2012 07:50 PM (r7Ddb)

310 BREAKING!!! Leeches in CH will continue making children dumber while getting 75k plus and a guaranteed increase of 4 percent. Yay Unions!

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2012 07:52 PM (t+Sdx)

311

Second, “Don’t have inflated expectations of human nature. Humans are not born, as Rousseau thought, as good people who need to be liberated. Rather, they need to be civilized.

 

 

This will not come as news to anyone who has had kids. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), a lot of liberals either couldn't be bothered to have kids, or their sexual proclivities precluded the possibility (without the intervention of, e.g., a turkey baster).

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 18, 2012 07:52 PM (oX7vY)

312

Posted by: Ferb Fletcher at September 18, 2012 11:15 PM (hyP1j)

 

This whole thing about Republicans wanting people who  are disabled, really down on their luck (temporarily),  etc. to  "be on their own" is such horse-shit! This is not who we're talking about! My mom has fallen victim to this "thinking", as I have a cousin  who  has been institutionalized since toddler-hood as a result of lack of oxygen to the brain during birth. She's convinced that if a R gets in office,  the cousin  will be turned out on the street, at age 54. No amount of my reassurances will assuage her doubts, regardless of the fact that there have been more R admins than D, since then. She will continue to think this, because she gets all her info from NPR.

My point is, this is not even an issue, and you need to do the best you can, and the safety net is there, and we all want it to be there. But it's not a hammock, unless you are truly unable to provide for yourself, somehow.

Posted by: kalneva at September 18, 2012 07:52 PM (cQmXn)

313 Leeches in CH will continue making children dumber while getting 75k plus and a guaranteed increase of 4 percent.

Yay Unions!

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2012 11:52 PM (t+Sdx)



It's for the children.

Posted by: Chicago Teachers Union at September 18, 2012 07:52 PM (/YJYi)

314 watch Sony's presser here, starts in 7 minutes

http://tinyurl.com/9qxts9w

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 07:53 PM (tw6Ar)

315 297 Preach it sister!

Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2012 07:53 PM (6o4Fb)

316  M  Romney horse does circumsitions /American style

Posted by: art garfunkels ugly kid at September 18, 2012 07:53 PM (/qvyf)

317 I am, for once, proud to be a backwards Floridian.

http://bit.ly/S2tbjX

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 07:54 PM (piMMO)

318 Obama looks like he's a hundred years old.

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 18, 2012 07:54 PM (BVkEs)

319 My PIN is none of the above. Its pretty damn secure even with only 4 digits.
Humans are not born, as Rousseau thought, as good people who need to be liberated. Rather, they need to be civilized.
The odd thing is the left still clings to the silly myth of the noble savage, that humanity would be good if only bad influences would go away. Its such an idiotic principle and so self evidently false, but one of the key basic presuppositions of leftist ideology is that people are basically good. We aren't.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2012 07:54 PM (r4wIV)

320 Cocksucker on Lettermann. What a fucking joke of a 'leader.' His cadence turns my stomach.

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2012 07:55 PM (t+Sdx)

321 I have owned the top horses in the US and am considered the most knowledgeable person born in the US concerning this breed. each sire line has its own quality.


****

Wow! That is some accomplishment. And, I know it didn't come without hard work.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 07:55 PM (piMMO)

322 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 11:39 PM (piMMO) I thought you were watching Black Swan? Well ... if you lost interest in it, Sanctum is on at midnight. It's a fun movie with a great moral. Not to ruin it, but it's ssentially the story of a childish leftist twerp and how he kills everyone who gets within arm's length of him, all the while feeling morally superior. No shit. It is a guilty pleasure movie, though, and fun to watch.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 18, 2012 07:55 PM (X3lox)

323 Miniature donkeys, you say...

Gershwin's "Rhapsody in Blue":

http://youtu.be/qLTManObB40

Posted by: derit at September 18, 2012 07:58 PM (ruiF1)

324

P BARNS

 

is my hero!!

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 18, 2012 07:58 PM (2IlPT)

325 Is he wearing slacks?? Dude, leader of the free world....get a tailor. Granted, coke will make you come in and out of a suit real quick.

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2012 07:58 PM (t+Sdx)

326 I thought you were watching Black Swan?

Well ... if you lost interest in it, Sanctum is on at midnight. It's a fun movie with a great moral. Not to ruin it, but it's ssentially the story of a childish leftist twerp and how he kills everyone who gets within arm's length of him, all the while feeling morally superior. No shit. It is a guilty pleasure movie, though, and fun to watch.

****

I am, but unlike SOME people, I can conduct a bing search and watch television at the same time.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 07:58 PM (piMMO)

327 "...investing in roads and bridges, and keeping the country safe,,,,and stuff"

Posted by: Barky McFucknut at September 18, 2012 07:58 PM (BVkEs)

328 I thought you were watching Black Swan?
He's "finished".

Posted by: andycanuck at September 18, 2012 07:59 PM (vDl/w)

329 oh, Get A Life looks really good on dvd when you factor in budget, age and format

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 08:00 PM (tw6Ar)

330 It's pretty damn secure even with only 4 digits.
1066?

Posted by: zombie william the conqueror at September 18, 2012 08:00 PM (vDl/w)

331 He's She's "finished".

Posted by: andycanuck at September 18, 2012 11:59 PM (vDl/w) \

 

FTFY

Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at September 18, 2012 08:01 PM (GULKT)

332 A gift before I go to la la land. http://tinyurl.com/9z29fwg

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 18, 2012 08:01 PM (GEICT)

333 RWC, Holy crap, the cadence! My mute button is worn out!

Posted by: kalneva at September 18, 2012 08:01 PM (cQmXn)

334 463 Is it just me, or did Willard fire a class-warfare counter-salvo tonight? Schools schools schools!!! I want to know how he 'equals' the playing field. Will never be asked though.

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2012 08:02 PM (t+Sdx)

335 Barack Obama has got to be the greatest liar (satan notwithstanding) in the history of the world. Atta boy!

Posted by: Saul Alinsky at September 18, 2012 08:02 PM (BVkEs)

336 God I wish one of you smart morons was sitting in Letterman's seat for this. He is such a lying pos. We have got to get rid of him or I'll go totally round the bend.

Posted by: teej at September 18, 2012 08:02 PM (32Scy)

337

>>Leeches in CH will continue making children dumber while getting 75k plus and a guaranteed increase of 4 percent.

4% per year?   That's the 16% they were offered to begin with. 

Though, I'd never expect a public school teacher to be able to do that math.

Posted by: garrett at September 18, 2012 08:03 PM (sybxW)

338 Gee, BC, that was not gifty-feeling!

Posted by: kalneva at September 18, 2012 08:03 PM (cQmXn)

339 Black Swan was boring and the girls were oddly unattractive for being such pretty girls.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2012 08:03 PM (r4wIV)

340 Quick question, is there an Ace of Spades affiliated guild in Guild Wars 2?  Just started playing it and is wondering.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 18, 2012 08:05 PM (qjrXu)

341
Wow! That is some accomplishment. And, I know it didn't come without hard work.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 11:55 PM (piMMO)


my ex would call it obsession.

but i dont have biological kids so these are it. im there from birth to conception. The US breeders are a frustrating lot. they hate the breed standard, know nothing about genetics and dont care to learn. When i got divorced and had to disperse the broodmare band and stallions, i washed my hands of them and have never been sorry.


Uncle Horse is a Turk horse too.  they are odd little people and feel deeply like dogs do. its hilarious how attached he is to his cats. Just today he was sleeping out in his stall with his nose by a little white and orange fur puddle, gaurding tiny Cecil. he couldnt be more proud if they were his own kittens.


but aside from being fast they were bred to be companions by people who think doggies are icky, so they have a lot of protective and doggy characteristics.

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at September 18, 2012 08:06 PM (r7Ddb)

342 Dumb bitch Maddow is talking about how Romney doesn't know what a dirty bomb is. This is coming from the scrunt who took dialogue from 'Die Hard 2' as fact. 'cause Glocks evade metal detectors and whatnot.

Posted by: RWC at September 18, 2012 08:06 PM (t+Sdx)

343 298 Posted by: MrCaniac, now Steve from Missouri at September 18, 2012 10:39 PM (1grxW)

What section of Missouri are you in now, if you don't mind saying at least the quadrant.

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 18, 2012 11:42 PM (chdbY)


I'm not in Missouri, I am in Virginia. With all the new concern trolls around who always post as something along the lines of "Kate in Michigan".

Posted by: MrCaniac, now Steve from New Hampshire at September 18, 2012 08:06 PM (1grxW)

344 Allow me to say, in closing, EFF U, Obama and all your minions! Nighty-night,  lovely  horde o' morons!

Posted by: kalneva at September 18, 2012 08:07 PM (cQmXn)

345 Wow, France firing back against the Muslims, who would have thought!

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 08:08 PM (EPbpF)

346 Stupid President Tricks

Posted by: The Q at September 18, 2012 08:09 PM (B/yDO)

347 If you polled all wage earners whether they are part of the 47% that don't pay income taxes, my guess is 99% would say "no, that's other people". 

Everyone thinks everyone else is the freeloader, that's why Romney's comments could even help him with undecided voters.

People instinctively understand that too many people are "working the system" while they go to work everyday.  That's probably the single biggest reason why working class whites left the Democrat Party.

Romney should run with this.

Posted by: Jeepers at September 18, 2012 08:10 PM (XDRsa)

348 God loveya, I hope things work out for you. Anyone can hit a rough patch. I think implicitly the disparagement above refers to those who make a career of living off of others, not to those who've had a tough break but are trying to get back ontheir feet. >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.

Posted by: Ferb Fletcher at September 18, 2012 08:11 PM (hyP1j)

349 313

This whole thing about Republicans wanting people who are disabled, really down on their luck (temporarily), etc. to "be on their own" is such horse-shit! This is not who we're talking about! My mom has fallen victim to this "thinking", as I have a cousin who has been institutionalized since toddler-hood as a result of lack of oxygen to the brain during birth. She's convinced that if a R gets in office, the cousin will be turned out on the street, at age 54. No amount of my reassurances will assuage her doubts, regardless of the fact that there have been more R admins than D, since then. She will continue to think this, because she gets all her info from NPR.
My point is, this is not even an issue, and you need to do the best you can, and the safety net is there, and we all want it to be there. But it's not a hammock, unless you are truly unable to provide for yourself, somehow.

Posted by: kalneva at September 18, 2012 11:52 PM (cQmXn)


I think almost everyone has relatives that think like your mom. For me, it's one of my grandmothers and an aunt. Why they think their loved ones who are Republicans would support a policy that throws disabled people out onto the street to fend for themselves is beyond me. Especially when I have a couple of relatives that are disabled and need the safety net. They never question their false assumptions, just keep spouting them like robots. It can be frustrating.

That same grandmother had a loud political argument with me at a family get together during Clinton's first term and said that all Republicans want to hurt old people. So, I asked her if I had ever hurt her. After all, she's an old person and I'm a Republican. She sputtered something about me not being like other Republicans. So I said, "You mean actual Republicans or the caricatures of Republicans that you and Bill Clinton have invented?" Over the years, we went through this same routine with various other favorite talking points of the Left, such as Republicans wanting dirty water and wanting Americans to die from lack of health insurance. To this day, she doesn't see how over-the-top her arguments are. Although not often said aloud, we all have our favorite and least favorite relatives. You can probably tell where she rates on my list, though my wife and I still do a lot for her ... though we usually try to avoid political arguments now because her ignorance and irrational love of liberalism is exhausting.

Posted by: Slappy at September 18, 2012 08:12 PM (LTbLf)

350 My point is, this is not even an issue, and you need to do the best you can, and the safety net is there, and we all want it to be there. But it's not a hammock, unless you are truly unable to provide for yourself, somehow.

Posted by: kalneva at September 18, 2012 11:52 PM (cQmXn)


Yeah, the standard false dichotomy fallacy...we have welfare queens whining about how hard they have it while loading steaks and ice cream into their brand new Escalade, thinking that the truly needy will be out in the streets eating roadkill if the benefits are reduced.  Fucking morons.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 08:14 PM (yYKoR)

351 213 Wow krauthammer? very eeyorish on what Romney said. Guess he still wants the invites to the parties.
Why do our congress and senate spend the majority of the time in dc? Internet age, they should stay home, listen to their bosses, and vote when needed? Am I wrong

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 11:13 PM (EPbpF)


I suggest www.gotomeeting.gov...

Posted by: CJHinTX at September 18, 2012 08:14 PM (Xz3iS)

352 Back from vacation and from lack of following commentary (wrestling my phone through the posts was taxing enough). Can someone tell me what the TFG abbreviation for Obama, liberally sprinkled through some earlier commentary, expands to? Baseline assumption is that it's "That F'cking Git" or similar.

Posted by: sistrum at September 18, 2012 08:15 PM (SUlmX)

353 I heard the wife's asshole grandmother blurt out one day that the repubs were for the rich, and the dems are for the poor. I said of course the dems love the poor, thats why they create so fucking many of them.


Posted by: Berserker at September 18, 2012 08:16 PM (FMbng)

354 Okay just caught up on the horse sub-thread.  So that is what the golden ones looked like.  Still shiny!  Gushka, it seems your friend is still having the last laugh on breeding those.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 18, 2012 08:16 PM (qjrXu)

355
Thank you.

Posted by: Ferb Fletcher at September 19, 2012 12:11 AM (hyP1j)

cry baby titty mouth

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 08:17 PM (EPbpF)

356 353 Back from vacation and from lack of following commentary (wrestling my phone through the posts was taxing enough). Can someone tell me what the TFG abbreviation for Obama, liberally sprinkled through some earlier commentary, expands to? Baseline assumption is that it's "That F'cking Git" or similar.

Posted by: sistrum at September 19, 2012 12:15 AM (SUlmX)


I'm not sure either, but I'll guess: Total Fucking Goatraper

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 08:17 PM (yYKoR)

357 Quick question, is there an Ace of Spades affiliated guild in Guild Wars 2? Just started playing it and is wondering.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 19, 2012 12:05 AM (qjrXu)


not that I know of, curious to see how bad you think of it especially when you hit 80 and ANet's failings and repeated stupidity.

Mazzy Starbringer on Henge

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 08:18 PM (tw6Ar)

358 The prophet Ace has decreed that no one should speak the name of the Abomination that resides in DC, so from here out he shall be referred to only as "That fucking guy".

Posted by: Adam at September 18, 2012 08:19 PM (/YJYi)

359 It's not surprising red states have the greatest number of no income tax payers. The blue states give you so much money you actually have to pay taxes.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 18, 2012 08:19 PM (GE1+K)

360 According to Congress' Joint Committee on Taxation

end Bush cuts for > $1 million generates $366 billion over 10 years
end Bush cuts for > $250k generates $829 billion over 10 years
end Bush cuts for everybody generates $3.6 trillion over 10 years

With the FY2012 deficit north of $1.1 trillion
or north of $11 trillion over 10 years

So, if we let the bush cuts expire and make the increase then an additional 200% larger, we might be able to balance the budget (until the Law of Unintended Consequences kicks in).

Posted by: Chancellor of the Exchequer at September 18, 2012 08:20 PM (e8kgV)

361 The Dude, only Lvl 4 so far.  The menu system compared to original Guild Wars is eh.  And it seems there is a good chunk of latency just built into the game.  Now forget what server I am on but its not Henge.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 18, 2012 08:20 PM (qjrXu)

362 Good evening scaliwags

Posted by: zeera at September 18, 2012 08:20 PM (XtxRN)

363 356 Thank you.
Posted by: Ferb Fletcher at September 19, 2012 12:11 AM (hyP1j)
Ferb get a fucking job Ferb, dont bitch on a blog, get a fucking job. Just my opinion.

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 08:20 PM (EPbpF)

364 354 I heard the wife's asshole grandmother blurt out one day that the repubs were for the rich, and the dems are for the poor. I said of course the dems love the poor, thats why they create so fucking many of them.


Posted by: Berserker at September 19, 2012 12:16 AM (FMbng)


Yeah, no shit...ask her why she thinks wealth is a vice and poverty is a virtue, and why she wants people to be poor.  I have been over this issue as well with friends and relatives, and I keep stressing that 'helping' the poor as they are wont to do does nothing but keep them poor.  That's what they want. Have her look up Munchausen by proxy syndrome

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 08:21 PM (yYKoR)

365 "Now, there's all these blogs and stuff..." - Barack Obama, on Letterman

I think Letterman is punking Obama.

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 18, 2012 08:21 PM (BVkEs)

366 Assuming the southern states are that way from more retirees. Probably been mentioned here a few times already.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 18, 2012 08:21 PM (UvR6d)

367

Why do our congress and senate spend the majority of the time in dc?
Internet age, they should stay home, listen to their bosses, and vote
when needed? Am I wrong

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 11:13 PM (EPbpF)

 

No, your not wrong. This is the age of Skype and a multitude of methods for instant communication. Having at least the representatives stay home would both save money and prevent what I call the "critical mass of stupid" which occurs when that lot get together (and it doesn't much matter which individuals make up the lot either).

 

This would also greatly reduce the influence of the beltway insiders (which is why it will never happen) and also decrease the chance os a tactical strike on DC being worthwhile.

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 18, 2012 08:21 PM (chdbY)

368 Ok, way OT, Am the only one that watches Sons of Silence for escape from the madness going on in the world?  Sorry, my beer googles just lowered themselves.

Posted by: Infidel at September 18, 2012 08:22 PM (k7biU)

369 359 The prophet Ace has decreed that no one should speak the name of the Abomination that resides in DC, so from here out he shall be referred to only as "That fucking guy".

Posted by: Adam at September 19, 2012 12:19 AM (/YJYi)


==


Is this to be instead of SCoaMF and JEF, or merely supplemental to?

Posted by: sistrum at September 18, 2012 08:22 PM (SUlmX)

370 The Dude, only Lvl 4 so far. The menu system compared to original Guild Wars is eh. And it seems there is a good chunk of latency just built into the game. Now forget what server I am on but its not Henge.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 19, 2012 12:20 AM (qjrXu)


game is so bad. Love how the endgame is grinding dungeons for cosmetics and then nerfing the token rate for the items.

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 08:23 PM (tw6Ar)

371 Given how many people in the federal government are delinquent on their taxes, can't Washington DC be considered a high no taxes area?
I note that the heaviest no-tax states are often the heaviest illegal immigrant states too, like Texas.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2012 08:23 PM (r4wIV)

372

Ferb, get a job making minimum wage!! Get a job ferb, a job ferb..

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 08:23 PM (EPbpF)

373 369 Ok, way OT, Am the only one that watches Sons of Silence for escape from the madness going on in the world? Sorry, my beer googles just lowered themselves.

Posted by: Infidel at September 19, 2012 12:22 AM (k7biU)


There is no off-topic on an open thread.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 08:24 PM (yYKoR)

374 oh and hope your quest line doesn't bug out as they can't/won't fix it for you

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 08:25 PM (tw6Ar)

375 Ah Ha Ha! I live in Idaho, I'm a self-employed gunsmith, but because of the way the tax laws are written, I get $200/ month in food stamps, $500 in Federal energy assistance, and I would have to increase my gross adjusted income by 1200% before that equation changes... So guess who I'm voting for? Suckers! Get back to work in your cubicle farms! My livelihood (and happy hour bar tab) depends on your economic subservience! Muah Ha-ha-ha!

Posted by: SuperMag at September 18, 2012 08:25 PM (pADF7)

376 372 Given how many people in the federal government are delinquent on their taxes, can't Washington DC be considered a high no taxes area?

I note that the heaviest no-tax states are often the heaviest illegal immigrant states too, like Texas.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 19, 2012 12:23 AM (r4wIV)


except California.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 08:25 PM (yYKoR)

377 Just tell us how you really feel about the game The Dude?  Did you go and get the super special edition with the Charr statue?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 18, 2012 08:25 PM (qjrXu)

378 Obama just lost the election. On Letterman.

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 18, 2012 08:25 PM (BVkEs)

379 model_1066 I know.  Some days I just get so horrified with what is going on I have to escape reality.

Posted by: Infidel at September 18, 2012 08:26 PM (k7biU)

380 134 Purple lipped cocksucker on the gap toothed cocksuckers show.


“I don’t know what he was referring to but I can tell you this. When I won in 2008, 47% of the American people voted for John McCain, they didn’t vote for me. And what I said on election night was, ‘Even though you didn’t vote for me, I hear your voices and I’m going to work as hard as I can to be your president.’ And one of the things that I’ve learned as president is you represent the entire country. And when I meet Republicans, as I’m traveling around the country, they are hard-working family people who care deeply about this country. And my expectation is if you want to be president, then you’ve got to work for everybody not just for some.”

Posted by: steevy at September 18, 2012 10:54 PM (6o4Fb)


This is the biggest pile of bulls$*&, and he keeps saying it, every chance he gets.  I hope Mittens' debate preppers have a long list of all the times the SCOAMF made his little "I won" comments to throw back in his face at the appropriate - or inappropriate, for that matter - times.  Or maybe a list of all the Republicans who have called the WH or sent letters that were never answered... Gotta work for everybody???  What a pile....

Posted by: CJHinTX at September 18, 2012 08:26 PM (Xz3iS)

381 Yeah, no shit...ask her why she thinks wealth is a vice and poverty is a virtue, and why she wants people to be poor. I have been over this issue as well with friends and relatives, and I keep stressing that 'helping' the poor as they are wont to do does nothing but keep them poor. That's what they want. Have her look up Munchausen by proxy syndrome Posted by: model_1066 at September 19, 2012 12:21 AM


yeah I would, but she was good enough to go into that great commune in the sky.

Posted by: Berserker at September 18, 2012 08:27 PM (FMbng)

382 Quest line bug out?  Oh dear.  Norn, Deldrimor iron, jotun, and Jormag the dragon so far.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 18, 2012 08:27 PM (qjrXu)

383

Anybody here know how to teach borderline psychotic lop-eared rabbits how to bark like a pit-bull?

jus askin.... 

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 18, 2012 08:27 PM (2IlPT)

384 Just tell us how you really feel about the game The Dude? Did you go and get the super special edition with the Charr statue?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 19, 2012 12:25 AM (qjrXu)


no, I got screwed in pre-buying the game for the beta when I thought I was pre-ordering it. Best Buy and ANet wouldn't give me a refund

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 08:27 PM (tw6Ar)

385 Oops, Hope and Change strikes again...1,200 miners lose their jobs due to Obama administration policies.

http://tinyurl.com/8rvq9t3

I'm sure they're still Obama voters though...right?

Posted by: @PurpAv at September 18, 2012 08:27 PM (Qva0e)

386

Thanks, Model and Slappy. Glad I came back to post what I meant to post when I first got here, after answering a phone call, on my cell, from an unknown number, which I never do! It was from an area code on the coast (I'm in Eastern WA,  for those unfamiliar, but my cell is from the coast where I first got it umpteen years ago.)  The questions were:

Are you a registered voter?

Do you live at this address?

Is this your mobile  phone number?

Do you  receive  most of your phone calls on your land line, or on your cell phone?

That was pretty much it! I think the tides are turning! Unless I am not strategerizing well enough. Cuz I'm not good at that.

Posted by: kalneva at September 18, 2012 08:28 PM (cQmXn)

387 379 What did he say?

Posted by: Infidel at September 18, 2012 08:28 PM (k7biU)

388 To be fair, SuperMag the gunsmith, TFG is responsible for 90% of your work in the past 4 years so I can see you voting for your economic interest.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 18, 2012 08:28 PM (vDl/w)

389 386 Oops, Hope and Change strikes again...1,200 miners lose their jobs due to Obama administration policies.

http://tinyurl.com/8rvq9t3

I'm sure they're still Obama voters though...right?

Posted by: @PurpAv at September 19, 2012 12:27 AM (Qva0e)


Had to be Bush's fault... or maybe Romney.  Obama loves them and would NEVER do anything to jeopardize their jobs...

Posted by: CJHinTX at September 18, 2012 08:29 PM (Xz3iS)

390 1,200 miners lose their jobs due to Obama administration policies.
Yeah exactly, there are more than a few people who can directly trace their lack of jobs and financial situation to exact policy and efforts by the President of the United States. Those guys won't be voting Democrat. But they will be voting.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2012 08:29 PM (r4wIV)

391 Ferb get a fucking job Ferb, dont bitch on a blog, get a fucking job. Just my opinion. Posted by: lous a girl at September 19, 2012 12:20 AM (EPbpF) Why so angry? And according to recent stats bitching accounts for over 2/3 of all blog comments.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 18, 2012 08:29 PM (jMqh0)

392 Quest line bug out? Oh dear. Norn, Deldrimor iron, jotun, and Jormag the dragon so far.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 19, 2012 12:27 AM (qjrXu)


yeah, you'll randomly jump 15 levels in your story quests and all they could say is sorry but there is nothing that they can do. Oh and the final story quest is fucking hilarious, hope your 2 button isn't jacked up

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 08:29 PM (tw6Ar)

393

I live (for now) in Caliboneya. Next month......not so sure.

 

Work would help, alas.......

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 18, 2012 08:30 PM (2IlPT)

394 Well shit. A Cob is here. *puts pants on*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 18, 2012 08:30 PM (GEICT)

395 Is this to be instead of SCoaMF and JEF, or merely supplemental to?

Posted by: sistrum at September 19, 2012 12:22 AM (SUlmX)



Supplemental.

Posted by: Adam at September 18, 2012 08:30 PM (/YJYi)

396 That does stink a bit there The Dude.  Probably should explore some more and level up.  Perhaps find out if Hello Kitty is taken in Guild Wars 2, a Charr warrior.. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 18, 2012 08:31 PM (qjrXu)

397 221 Just please be cautious. Maybe restrained is a better word. There are good people in that 47 percent. Many of whom bust their asses just to feed their kids, and would prefer gainful employment to swallowing their pride and taking what steps are necessary, and, sometimes, just AVAILABLE to take care of those children.

Through no fault of my own, I'm now paying alimony and collecting unemployment. I pay for Internet because i need it to look for a job. For the first time, I will likely be a burden on society this fiscal year.

I hate it. And I will vote for Romney, because even though 80% of the rich people I know are assholes who either inherited it or fucked people to get it, they do the hiring, and governmental punishment of their riches will not increase my chances of employment.

So please, let's proceed carefully.   Wow, Yall ready to listen to this asshole that hates you and the gun clingers. Easy Pickings!

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 08:31 PM (EPbpF)

398 Doesn't even cover the budget gap now. If I understand it correctly that's averaging about 119.5 billion per year from the "rich". And I'm guessing it would be lower in the first five years. So lets see FY 2013: deficit 901 billion expected. Along with a combined 5.3 trillion from 2008 to 2012

Yeah were fucked.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at September 18, 2012 08:31 PM (NzBQO)

399 388 379 What did he say?

Posted by: Infidel at September 19, 2012 12:28 AM (k7biU)


It's the whole interview, so far.

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 18, 2012 08:32 PM (BVkEs)

400 yeah I would, but she was good enough to go into that great commune in the sky.

Posted by: Berserker at September 19, 2012 12:27 AM (FMbng)


thought commies didn't dig the whole godbothering thing...takes precious time and effort that should be devoted to dear leader.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 08:32 PM (yYKoR)

401 Why so angry?

And according to recent stats bitching accounts for over 2/3 of all blog comments.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 19, 2012 12:29 AM (jMqh0)


shut the fuck up concern troll.

ROMNEY 4EVA

Posted by: Sven at September 18, 2012 08:32 PM (tw6Ar)

402 397 That does stink a bit there The Dude. Probably should explore some more and level up. Perhaps find out if Hello Kitty is taken in Guild Wars 2, a Charr warrior..

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 19, 2012 12:31 AM (qjrXu)

 

Oh someone has definitely taken that name.  I'm sure Winnie, Booboo, and Yogi have been taken as Norn as well.

Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at September 18, 2012 08:33 PM (GULKT)

403 I note that the heaviest no-tax states are often the heaviest illegal immigrant states too, like Texas. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 19, 2012 12:23 AM (r4wIV) except California. Posted by: model_1066 at September 19, 2012 12:25 AM (yYKoR) Maybe they just came for Disneyland?

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2012 08:33 PM (sZTYJ)

404

>>I'm a self-employed gunsmith, but because of the way the tax laws are written, I get $200/ month in food stamps, $500 in Federal energy assistance, and I would have to increase my gross adjusted income by 1200% before that equation changes... So guess who I'm voting for?

 

 

So ou're a fucking leech?

Posted by: garrett at September 18, 2012 08:33 PM (sybxW)

405 I know Anna Puma, Anna Puna, Annapuma, Annapuna are all taken 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 18, 2012 08:34 PM (qjrXu)

406 A self-employed gunsmith would be voting for Romney. I don't know what that dude does for a living.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2012 08:34 PM (r4wIV)

407

404

 

Naw dude...shorter run. and the boats jus plow into the local sand at night!

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 18, 2012 08:35 PM (2IlPT)

408 What did he do?

Posted by: Red Shirt at September 18, 2012 11:35 PM (FIDMq)

 

Probably been mentioned by now but, he didn't do anything it's just a Pixy hiccup. They've been happening a lot lately, apparently @Purp was banned for a little bit.

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 18, 2012 08:36 PM (chdbY)

409 If you factor in the games Hollywood plays with its movies, California probably pays less taxes than any five other states combined.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2012 08:36 PM (r4wIV)

410 TheDude: "game is so bad."

No, it isn't. There is a fair amount of creativity put into it, changes and redesigns for the better. I've enjoyed it quite a bit. Replayability beats the hell out of SWTOR.

"Love how the endgame is grinding dungeons for cosmetics and then nerfing the token rate for the items."

It's been out for less than a month and you're bitching about endgame? Christ, get a life. Or an alt.

Posted by: dawnfire at September 18, 2012 08:36 PM (eEeH7)

411 Ferb get a fucking job Ferb, dont bitch on a blog, get a fucking job. Just my opinion.
Posted by: lous a girl at September 19, 2012 12:20 AM (EPbpF)



****

I was about to comment on the bitter tone of your comment but backtracked and now see that there has been a bit o' concern lurking about.

I've been absent quite a bit as of late. Is Ferb new?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 08:36 PM (piMMO)

412 Maybe they just came for Disneyland?

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 19, 2012 12:33 AM (sZTYJ)


Yeah, to work there...imagine Mickey Mouse staggering up to you, smelling like cheap booze, yelling 'como esta, my leetle bitches'...


/denounce

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 08:36 PM (yYKoR)

413

Posted by: MrCaniac, now Steve from New Hampshire at September 19, 2012 12:06 AM (1grxW)

 

Lol, after I saw a few more posts I knew I was going to regret having asked.

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 18, 2012 08:36 PM (chdbY)

414 Sheriff's heli circling the hood again tonight...

Pistol - check
Loaded - check
Nasty hollow points - check


Posted by: @PurpAv at September 18, 2012 08:37 PM (Qva0e)

415

Posted by: dawnfire at September 19, 2012 12:36 AM (eEeH7)


fuck off white knight, sorry your new favorite game is a piece of shit

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 08:37 PM (tw6Ar)

416 You know on that Ginger or Mary Ann thing?  I'm leaning toward Ginger now.

Posted by: rdbrewer at September 18, 2012 08:38 PM (Iyg03)

417 ""A self-employed gunsmith would be voting for Romney. I don't know what that dude does for a living.""


No shit I was thinking the same thing.


yeah right,  I make soda bottles in 20 ounce size and I'm voting for fucking bloomberg

Posted by: Berserker at September 18, 2012 08:39 PM (FMbng)

418 Its off topic but I want to announce that the talent pool changes for WOW suck hard donkey nads still. I hoped I'd get used to it but I can't stand what they did. Lazy bastards changed them only because they wanted to make balance and itemization easier.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2012 08:39 PM (r4wIV)

419 379  I like the way you're thinking.  Details?

Posted by: zeera at September 18, 2012 08:40 PM (XtxRN)

420 If you factor in the games Hollywood plays with its movies, California probably pays less taxes than any five other states combined.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 19, 2012 12:36 AM (r4wIV)


were running out of producers.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at September 18, 2012 08:40 PM (NzBQO)

421 Gun question for the Horde. The wife has been paying closer attention to political crap this year and a couple days ago declared "I think we should get another gun. And ammo, lots of ammo. Before it potentially becomes difficult." (Love her) any suggestions? Door's wide open. Gimme your favs and why.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 18, 2012 08:40 PM (GEICT)

422 You know on that Ginger or Mary Ann thing? I'm leaning toward Ginger now.
That's only because she can't talk in a picture.
Unrelated but worth a chuckle:
http://tinyurl.com/9nerngl

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2012 08:40 PM (r4wIV)

423 Thanks, Adam. I need to be handheld though the ever-shifting acronyms; needless to say, texting is Not My Thing.

(One small small thing to appreciate about being back in Cali: I don't have to lunge for the mute button every commercial break to avoid the class war saber-rattling, since our electoral votes are already considered looted.)

Posted by: sistrum at September 18, 2012 08:41 PM (SUlmX)

424 415 Sheriff's heli circling the hood again tonight...

Pistol - check
Loaded - check
Nasty hollow points - check


Posted by: @PurpAv at September 19, 2012 12:37 AM (Qva0e)


Throw in a vicious dog, flashlight and a shovel and you're set. 

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 08:42 PM (yYKoR)

425

410

 

Yeah and most "HOLLYWOOD" productions are shot out of state or out of country......nice racket...for Hollywood....cept the teamsters must feel....kinda unloved....wonder why?

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 18, 2012 08:42 PM (2IlPT)

426 Obama just lost the election. On Letterman.

Letterman?  Letterman?  Guy used to be a comedian maybe 30 years ago right? 

Posted by: @PurpAv at September 18, 2012 08:42 PM (Qva0e)

427 any suggestions?
H&K G11 caseless? OK so the ammo would require you to mortgage your house and there are like 6 gunsmiths in the world that can even work on it but hey...
I'm not a gun guy but that rifle is amazing to me.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2012 08:42 PM (r4wIV)

428 My fiancé and myself have been trying to get her youngest brother to show up and vote for Romney. He's in the reserves, he likes his guns, he works hard (2 jobs). He also is apolitical, and is pretty much a pox on all politicians kind of guy. Uses the George Carlin "I didn't vote for this asshole" line. We use his cousins and aunt as an example many times. Complete waste of humanity on that side, except one cousin who finally found a husband that has opened her eyes, and now she's working hard to help supplement some income. The aunt has been a welfare queen gaming for disability for decades. Her other kids move from home to home ditching payments and shirking responsibility. Lots of drugs. Lots of leeching off of grandma's savings. It's infuriating to us all. My fiancé shows him some of his aunts Facebook postings, and asks him if he really doesn't think it is important to cancel out her vote. I think it's her most effective tactic yet. Romney didn't make this distinction between her brother and the deadbeat aunt and cousins on the other side of the family, but everybody knows what he is talking about. Maybe for a couple days this hurts Romney's polling, but it isn't going to be too hard to neutralize it and even turn it into a positive if he and his surrogates stick with this.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 18, 2012 08:42 PM (UvR6d)

429 Its off topic but I want to announce that the talent pool changes for WOW suck hard donkey nads still. I hoped I'd get used to it but I can't stand what they did. Lazy bastards changed them only because they wanted to make balance and itemization easier.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 19, 2012 12:39 AM (r4wIV)


haven't played WOW since vanilla, went back to Lineage 2

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 08:43 PM (tw6Ar)

430 ....Details?

Posted by: zeera at September 19, 2012 12:40 AM (XtxRN)


Have to wait for the video/transcript. Too much shit.

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 18, 2012 08:43 PM (BVkEs)

431 422 Gun question for the Horde. The wife has been paying closer attention to political crap this year and a couple days ago declared "I think we should get another gun. And ammo, lots of ammo. Before it potentially becomes difficult." (Love her) any suggestions? Door's wide open. Gimme your favs and why.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 19, 2012 12:40 AM (GEICT)


You should worship the ground she walks on.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 08:43 PM (yYKoR)

432 S'up with China? Did Japan steal all their little red books or something? Can't believe the US Ambassador's car was surrounded by protesters--in China. Loved the Twitter comment by someone joking about "that damn movie" causing this too.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at September 18, 2012 08:44 PM (RZ8pf)

433 haha, Sony failing so hard with the Vita section of the presser. Bigger joke than the rest of the presser so far

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 08:44 PM (tw6Ar)

434 Don't got a dog, but I got a couple of Maglites and some fresh sawzall blades...and a big canal is just across the street.


Posted by: @PurpAv at September 18, 2012 08:44 PM (Qva0e)

435 I was about to comment on the bitter tone of your comment but backtracked and now see that there has been a bit o' concern lurking about.

I've been absent quite a bit as of late. Is Ferb new?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 19, 2012 12:36 AM (piMMO)

Well, in my defense I am drunk , and probably missed comment numbers, but I think I am strong on my defense of this Romnsy/obama battle.

We capitulate, and obama/msm gets the props. That does not sit well with me. Drunk or not!

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 08:45 PM (EPbpF)

436 China is gearing up to take the Senkaku Islands and a few other odds and ends, and needs their people riled up and ready to go. That's my best guess. There's no small amount of anger and frustration in the country, and a HUGE real estate bubble about to burst and collapse their already fragile economy, so they need to keep the people distracted.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2012 08:46 PM (r4wIV)

437 You should worship the ground she walks on. Oh, I do. She's unreal. Puts up with my shit. Leans right 95% of the time. Hot as hell. Great mom. Hot as hell.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 18, 2012 08:47 PM (GEICT)

438 Can't believe the US Ambassador's car was surrounded by protesters--in China. Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at September 19, 2012 12:44 AM (RZ8pf) Poor Mike Huntsman is probably crying like a baby, right now, seeing his beloved China turn against his beloved Dog-Eating leader ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 18, 2012 08:47 PM (X3lox)

439 If the Japanese are expecting Obama to have their backs, they may be sadly disappointed. 

Posted by: @PurpAv at September 18, 2012 08:48 PM (Qva0e)

440 Ok.

I won't go s far as to say that Black Swan insists upon itself.

It's no Moulin Rouge which, btw, I wasn't able to make it through 15 minutes, but it was a bit artsy.

It was fucked up for the sake of being fucked up.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 08:48 PM (piMMO)

441 435 Don't got a dog, but I got a couple of Maglites and some fresh sawzall blades...and a big canal is just across the street.


Posted by: @PurpAv at September 19, 2012 12:44 AM (Qva0e)


Well you're steps ahead of most people in the shit-hitting-the-fan department. A first aid kit would be handy too. And lots of booze.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 08:48 PM (yYKoR)

442

Depends on what you already own, BC.

aAman should have a sidearm (or three) , a shotgun (or two), and a cornucopia of rifles.

Really, a well armed man is a lot like a golfer.  a tool for every shot.

Posted by: garrett at September 18, 2012 08:48 PM (sybxW)

443 so to save the Vita, we get a new VN, new colors and a manga reader

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 08:48 PM (tw6Ar)

444 I'm thinking you should sleep it off Lou. Come back tomorrow rarin to go.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 18, 2012 08:48 PM (GEICT)

445
Lol, after I saw a few more posts I knew I was going to regret having asked.

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 19, 2012 12:36 AM (chdbY)


I am very concerned.

Posted by: MrCaniac, now Steve from New Mexico at September 18, 2012 08:49 PM (1grxW)

446 If the Japanese are expecting Obama to have their backs, they may be sadly disappointed. Posted by: @PurpAv at September 19, 2012 12:48 AM (Qva0e) I see a nuclear arsenal in Japan's near-future ... They might be pussying out on the nuke power but I don't think they'll mess around with China acting all belligerent and with the US totally unreliable (if we are even seen as being that good to Japan, these days, what with all the China worship and Maoists infesting the MFM and Barky's junta).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 18, 2012 08:50 PM (X3lox)

447 I just can't figure out how the director of Black Swan managed to take two of the prettiest girls in Hollywood and make them look so harsh and unpleasant.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2012 08:50 PM (r4wIV)

448 443 Depends on what you already own, BC. aAman should have a sidearm (or three) , a shotgun (or two), and a cornucopia of rifles. Really, a well armed man is a lot like a golfer. a tool for every shot. S&W M&P .40 right now. And I got two little ones that get into everything, so safety is obv a big concern.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 18, 2012 08:50 PM (GEICT)

449

Last night I finally snagged the debil comment glory.  Tonight I'm thinking commentor #420 should also get some kind of recognition

Posted by: zeera at September 18, 2012 08:51 PM (XtxRN)

450 I think Christ will return before Japan ever gets a nuclear arsenal. We are skittish around the weapons, they hate them with a fiery passion and terror we can only guess at. We are uncomfortable with their power, Japan felt it. No nukes for them, just lots of conventional weapons.
But since they've only had Eric the Half-an-Army since the 50s, I don't think they're really a serious threat to China.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2012 08:52 PM (r4wIV)

451 It was fucked up for the sake of being fucked up. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 19, 2012 12:48 AM (piMMO) I warned you. And I usually like Aronofsky's stuff.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 18, 2012 08:52 PM (X3lox)

452 392 Ferb get a fucking job Ferb, dont bitch on a blog, get a fucking job. Just my opinion.
Posted by: lous a girl at September 19, 2012 12:20 AM (EPbpF)


Why so angry?

And according to recent stats bitching accounts for over 2/3 of all blog comments.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 19, 2012 12:29 AM (jMqh0)

 See my previous 298, thanks for being on my side, not!

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 08:52 PM (EPbpF)

453 The CAR-15 can handle most suburban issues at arms length, and I got an illuminated scoped Ruger Mk II heavy barrel .22LR for the closer in "detail work" you don't want to be too noisy.

Posted by: @PurpAv at September 18, 2012 08:52 PM (Qva0e)

454 you know Sony is in trouble when they are taking more than a few seconds to pimp Black Ops 2 to Japan

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 08:53 PM (tw6Ar)

455 I warned you. And I usually like Aronofsky's stuff.


*****

Yes. You did.

I wish I had stayed with Mississippi Burning, but I turned back just now and it's still on.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 08:53 PM (piMMO)

456 Go to bed Lou!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 18, 2012 08:53 PM (GEICT)

457 Let me put it this way, Hollywood likes to use the military as the bad guy often in our movies, along with crazy Christians and evil businessmen (usually bald or with a moustache). Japan's popular culture always has the military as the bad guy. Always. There are no heroic regular military guys, they're always brutal thugs and monsters lusting after power, except for weird elite squads like middle schoolers with propellers for feet.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2012 08:54 PM (r4wIV)

458

Does you lady know how to shoot?  If she does, is that pistol comfortable for her? 

 If not, perhaps she'd like to learn, and a gun for her might be an excellent choice.  In my experience, shooting makes the wimmens happy and buying them a gun usually means another gunis in your future, anyway. 

If not, and you are thinking about home protection, a 20 ga. shotgun might be a good option as the little lady should be comfortable enough with one of those. 

Posted by: garrett at September 18, 2012 08:54 PM (sybxW)

459

Obama just lost the election. On Letterman.

What did he say?

Posted by: Alex at September 18, 2012 08:54 PM (ImcFy)

460 I think the Japanese constitution prohibits nuclear weapons and restricts them to a defensive force only.  i.e. no force projection or offensive weapons.

Of course, Obama has show us how much constitutions are worth...

Posted by: @PurpAv at September 18, 2012 08:55 PM (Qva0e)

461

Hmnm, well living in a Pac Rim state a war between Japan and China could prove to be very interesting here as well. It seems like it has the potential to blow a whole lot of technology relationships out of the water too. Throw in North Korea effing with South Korea and it will be a perfect storm of Asian diplomatic failure.

 

 

I guess we should've taken the damn Chinese war drums more seriously at their Olympics opening ceremony!

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at September 18, 2012 08:55 PM (RZ8pf)

462

All of those "taker" states look to me to be easily explained not as lib parasite havens but places where people go in retirement.

And when you look at it that way, it makes much more sense

Posted by: DAve at September 18, 2012 08:56 PM (Uz9gA)

463 Mississippi Burning is pretty screwed up too, its just pointlessly depressing and portrays white people as relentlessly evil. One of my friends, a black guy, said "why did they even MAKE that movie? That was just horrible to watch!"
But really did you expect a movie by Aronofsky to be anything but dark, horrible, and screwed up on purpose? Did you not see Requiem for a Dream or The Wrestler? He's very talented but his films are always grim and awful.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2012 08:56 PM (r4wIV)

464 457 Go to bed Lou!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 19, 2012 12:53 AM (GEICT)

I will Thanks.

Posted by: lous a girl at September 18, 2012 08:56 PM (EPbpF)

465 Obama just lost the election. On Letterman. Posted by: Craig Poe at September 19, 2012 12:25 AM (BVkEs) Could you go into a bit of detail and to how and why?

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2012 08:56 PM (sZTYJ)

466

China is gearing up to take the Senkaku Islands and a few other odds and ends, and needs their people riled up and ready to go. That's my best guess. There's no small amount of anger and frustration in the country, and a HUGE real estate bubble about to burst and collapse their already fragile economy, so they need to keep the people distracted.

 

My biggest concern is still a Chinese move to the west, into Central Asia.  Access to the Caspian Sea and their Iranian oil interests are much more lucarative in the near future.

Posted by: Alex at September 18, 2012 08:57 PM (ImcFy)

467 Posted by: garrett at September 19, 2012 12:54 AM (sybxW) The lady shoots. In fact, she's pushing for us to go get our concealed carry permits.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 18, 2012 08:58 PM (GEICT)

468 I'm still waiting to find out that Romney didn't pay any taxes until he was 11 years old .. after 10 years of paying no taxes.

Posted by: Harry Reid's secret investor at September 18, 2012 08:58 PM (e8kgV)

469 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 19, 2012 12:54 AM (r4wIV) The Japanese have for almost all of their history been very militaristic, as I'm sure you're aware. That only changed post-WWII because they got their asses handed to them and were nearly wiped out. Then, they had the luxury of knowing that America had their backs ever since so they could be all anti-military. America no longer has their back and I would assume that they know that. China no longer thinks that America has Japan's back and I think Japan knows that, too.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 18, 2012 08:58 PM (X3lox)

470 466 Obama just lost the election. On Letterman.

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 19, 2012 12:25 AM (BVkEs)


Could you go into a bit of detail and to how and why?

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 19, 2012 12:56 AM (sZTYJ)


yeah the suspense is killing me. just summarize.

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at September 18, 2012 08:59 PM (r7Ddb)

471 Obama tells Letterman he expects the Muslim world to ‘keep our people safe’ http://tinyurl.com/9f94f3e This won't hurt him much. Anyone who would have been affected by his remark, has already turned against him...

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2012 08:59 PM (sZTYJ)

472

I, of the semi-auto fan club and not wishing to gain the rage from any (gingers) moronettes. state a "Wheel Gun" of proper cal. will do just fine in a "point and pull the trigger til empty" sit ye-a-stion. Sides, if ya do it right, no need for a re-load. STATS show less than combat range (7 yards)  defence encounters are 2.5 rounds on avg. to stop the assault. Wheel guns are simple, with less moving parts to f**k-up your "Live or Die encounter. Lady! a good simple wheel gun in the proper cal. 38 to 357 will do the job jus fine...

 

jus sayin....

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 18, 2012 09:00 PM (2IlPT)

473 I think I need to make a living will just in case and if I am completely unresponsive and don't have a pulse do not call 911. Shitty day. Mom on life support and completely unresponsive. We said don't pull the plug right now since out of state siblings want to come to bedside. I was going to stay in her room so she would not be alone. HA! she is getting the intensive care all right. The staff are very lovely, telling her what they are doing and taking steps to keep her comfortable. I'd rather have less fuss since this is not going to be long term but they earnestly mean well and its not like they are disturbing mom's rest.... Seems like better care than she got when she was just sick and not dying; maybe this is just a better hospital.

Posted by: palerider at September 18, 2012 09:00 PM (hVt9h)

474 But really did you expect a movie by Aronofsky to be anything but dark, horrible, and screwed up on purpose? Did you not see Requiem for a Dream or The Wrestler? He's very talented but his films are always grim and awful. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 19, 2012 12:56 AM (r4wIV) Requiem was a fantastic movie. The Wrestler was meh.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 18, 2012 09:00 PM (X3lox)

475 Hee.

Just read that Molly Shannon has been cast to portray Beth in the Scary Movie sequel and Heather Locklear will mock the Barbra Hershey role.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 18, 2012 09:00 PM (piMMO)

476 There are a lot of terrain concerns for China going into the middle east. That's why I think they're looking at the islands; there's oil under them and China is very thirsty for oil.
Japan though... they were Samurai back when we were in the old west, but these days, the men look like women. I'm sure there's some grizzled old guys who still know how to fight but I am not confident in the rest of those, uh, men.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2012 09:01 PM (r4wIV)

477 Pistol - check
Loaded - check
Nasty hollow points - check


Posted by: @PurpAv at September 19, 2012 12:37 AM (Qva0e)

 

Pants?

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 18, 2012 09:01 PM (chdbY)

478 I loved The Wrestler and thought Requiem was horrible and pointless. Well directed but just ghastly, like watching someone with a flesh eating virus as their face rots away.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2012 09:02 PM (r4wIV)

479 Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 19, 2012 01:01 AM (chdbY) Who the hell wears pants?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 18, 2012 09:02 PM (GEICT)

480 Seems like better care than she got when she was just sick and not dying; maybe this is just a better hospital.

Posted by: palerider at September 19, 2012 01:00 AM (hVt9h)


bless you friend. there seems to be a lot of this going around. may you find comfort as you go through this.

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at September 18, 2012 09:02 PM (r7Ddb)

481 Obama tells Letterman he expects the Muslim world to ‘keep our people safe’

Just Obama working on his standup comedy routine.

Posted by: @PurpAv at September 18, 2012 09:03 PM (Qva0e)

482

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 19, 2012 12:58 AM (GEICT)

 

CC Permits, and a gun for each of you is a good place to start.   I'd look into getting her a pistol (maybe one that can double as a conceal piece for you when you are together). 

As far as kids go, start them early on education.  I was getting schooled on gun safety from the age of 7 or so.  Started with Dad's cleaning sessions. 

Posted by: garrett at September 18, 2012 09:03 PM (sybxW)

483 oh wow, a Bouncy Tits game and a new Muramasa game

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 09:04 PM (tw6Ar)

484 People are worried about some islands to the north of Taiwan and south of Japan.  If the PRC gets froggy and takes the Spratleys.  Oh boy.  Lots of oil is known to be there.  Plus would force the VLCC routes to shift east of the Philippines.  If they also take the Senkaku Islands, well guess what.  All oil supply lines to Taiwan and South Korea will be blocked.

Is that enough reasons to go to war?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 18, 2012 09:04 PM (qjrXu)

485 466 Obama just lost the election. On Letterman.

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 19, 2012 12:25 AM (BVkEs)


Could you go into a bit of detail and to how and why?

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 19, 2012 12:56 AM (sZTYJ)


Watch the interview, and draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 18, 2012 09:05 PM (BVkEs)

486 Actually...where the hell is Ryan?  I know that the MFM will suppress as much as they can about him, unless of course they can call him a liar because he's an hour off on his running stats from twenty years ago, but I haven't heard a peep about him lately. 

I couldn't believe it when the Romney thing was lead story on the news this morning.  Really?  The world's on fire, and a Romney comment from six months ago is the lead story? A Romney comment where he tells the truth?   And, of course, the bit ended with that cocksucker Jim Messina clucking about how another (another) of Romney "ill-advised" and "reckless" remarks show that it would "dangerous" to have him in a leadership position.

So that's the meme: Romney, hot-headed and thoughtless, constantly making "gaffes," in contrast with set pieces like the Obama ass-licking article I read in the Chicago Trib on Sunday about Obama's considered, precise, strategic Middle Eastern policy. (Yes, really!!!) So look for these journolist watchwords: Romney, reckless, dangerous; Obama, cool-thinking presidentin' machine.

And on the propaganda tube in the elevator today was this headline: "Obama has a busy day" outlining his bash with Beyonce and  Jay-Z and his appearance on Letterman and some other fucking meaningless thing he was doing with some other fucking  meaningless celebrity.  God... I hate him.  I hate him so much.
:: dry sob of rage ::

Posted by: Gem at September 18, 2012 09:05 PM (zw+pb)

487 Posted by: palerider at September 19, 2012 01:00 AM (hVt9h) Thoughts and prayers...

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2012 09:05 PM (sZTYJ)

488 I loved The Wrestler and thought Requiem was horrible and pointless. Well directed but just ghastly, like watching someone with a flesh eating virus as their face rots away.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 19, 2012 01:02 AM (r4wIV)


if you have a heroin junkie in the family, Requiem hits close to home even with it's hyper overdone style

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 09:05 PM (tw6Ar)

489 My dream is on election night for Nancy Pelosi, knowing that she is politically fucked to the point where she is chafed and bleeding(as Elizabeth Shue was in that horrible Nick Cage vehicle about Las Vegas),  for her to take the huge Gavel she strutted around with amongst the Tea Party crowd behind the Capitol, and smash it down on her own skull with great force, repeatedly, unto death.

Better still to have John Lewis, who accompanied her on that infamous walk,  smash the gavel down on her, then himself dive into the Atlantic to be devoured by the sharks he says have been waiting for blacks since the slave trade of the 1600's.

Remember this word:  kakistocracy:  the rule of the worst.  The root in Greek means "shit".


Posted by: A Dreamer's gotta Dream... at September 18, 2012 09:06 PM (41zfH)

490

Now then,

If your worried about ZOMBIES...then ya need a Desert Eagle in .50 cal.

Hell of a wrist snapper that beast!!

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 18, 2012 09:06 PM (2IlPT)

491 Thanks Gushka, I'm taking a few minutes to escape to the internet. Mainly lurk here cuz I can't type fast enough but you all keep me sane with all the wit and humor.

Posted by: palerider at September 18, 2012 09:06 PM (hVt9h)

492 Thank you for listening, horde.  Maybe I can sleep now.

Posted by: Gem at September 18, 2012 09:07 PM (zw+pb)

493 Posted by: garrett at September 19, 2012 01:03 AM (sybxW) That's what I'm thinking. And kids are still too young IMO. They're 5 and 2.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 18, 2012 09:07 PM (GEICT)

494 Matt Yglesias just declared that: "The concept of "redistribution" falsely implies that the existence of property is prior to the existence of the state." http://tinyurl.com/8pc82om

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2012 09:07 PM (sZTYJ)

495

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at September 19, 2012 12:44 AM (RZ8pf)

 

PGiS, what's your Twitter handle so I can follow you and add you to the Horde #FF list?

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 18, 2012 09:07 PM (chdbY)

496 Obama just lost the election. On Letterman.

Right, as if there are any Letterman viewers who will extract themselves from their filth to vote.

Sorry, being offensive is my fore-tay.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 09:09 PM (yYKoR)

497 ""H&K G11 caseless? OK so the ammo would require you to mortgage your house and there are like 6 gunsmiths in the world that can even work on it but hey...

I'm not a gun guy but that rifle is amazing to me.""



yeah man, that is one cool looking rifle. I used to look at pics of that sucker like 20 years ago and would think how sci-fi that mofo looked. The ammo is wild looking.

Posted by: Berserker at September 18, 2012 09:10 PM (FMbng)

498 I knew a guy who was a smack addict, he had a nice Mercedes.  One day he asks me for a pry bar and I gave it to him thinking he needed it for some innocuous reason.

Seconds later he's wildly ripping out the interior of the Mercedes with my pry bar.

Apparently some bag of smack he'd stashed had slipped and fell down in back of the interior panels.

I don't know if he got his junk back, but I did get my pry bar back.

Posted by: @PurpAv at September 18, 2012 09:10 PM (Qva0e)

499 485 People are worried about some islands to the north of Taiwan and south of Japan. If the PRC gets froggy and takes the Spratleys. Oh boy. Lots of oil is known to be there. Plus would force the VLCC routes to shift east of the Philippines. If they also take the Senkaku Islands, well guess what. All oil supply lines to Taiwan and South Korea will be blocked.

Is that enough reasons to go to war?

************

No.  If we drill off Alaska and the Pacific, we can supply Korea , Taiwan and Japan.

And why should we let China take oil from Canada, while denying it to our allies?




Posted by: Pfft at September 18, 2012 09:10 PM (41zfH)

500 So how did Barry lose the election on Letterman?  Did he just try to cook a dog on live TV?  Promised Dave to have a love child with him?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 18, 2012 09:10 PM (qjrXu)

501 Matt Yglesias just declared that: "The concept of "redistribution" falsely implies that the existence of property is prior to the existence of the state." http://tinyurl.com/8pc82om Posted by: The Political Hat at September 19, 2012 01:07 AM (sZTYJ) I wouldn't bother reading his drivel but "Thou shalt not steal" is older than pretty much every state and operates at level above the concept of "state".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 18, 2012 09:11 PM (X3lox)

502 500 I knew a guy who was a smack addict, he had a nice Mercedes. One day he asks me for a pry bar and I gave it to him thinking he needed it for some innocuous reason.

Seconds later he's wildly ripping out the interior of the Mercedes with my pry bar.

Apparently some bag of smack he'd stashed had slipped and fell down in back of the interior panels.

I don't know if he got his junk back, but I did get my pry bar back.

Posted by: @PurpAv at September 19, 2012 01:10 AM (Qva0e)


I would have offered him $500 for his car. He probably would have accepted.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 09:11 PM (yYKoR)

503 embargos during live press conferences are fucking retarded

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 09:13 PM (tw6Ar)

504 491
Now then,
If your worried about ZOMBIES...then ya need a Desert Eagle in .50 cal.
Hell of a wrist snapper that beast!!

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 19, 2012 01:06 AM (2IlPT)


Never shot one...would absolutely love to. But ammo must be very spendy.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 09:13 PM (yYKoR)

505 Pfft, if the PRC occupies those islands and says those waters are now PRC territorial waters.  Followed by deploying their aircraft carrier plus subs to enforce their political will.  Then Beijing tells South Korea and Taiwan they will get their oil only if they surrender to Pyongyang and Beijing.  That is how things could spiral into World War III.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 18, 2012 09:14 PM (qjrXu)

506 41 For some reason the "Reagan closed the asylums and filled our streets
with loonies" myth is one of the strongest and oldest in our society.

**********

Derrrr.. those insane asylums weren't called "state hospitals" for nothing.

 How the EFFFFF Reagan could have simply defunded them and forced them to open their gates to Crazy Cat Ladies and the like is beyond human ken.

Only in Lib LaLa land.

Posted by: Pfft at September 18, 2012 09:14 PM (41zfH)

507 My cousin the plumber got a top of the line Hilti chipping hammer from a junkie for $20 years ago. 

Posted by: @PurpAv at September 18, 2012 09:14 PM (Qva0e)

508 lulz, another embargo

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 09:15 PM (tw6Ar)

509 My biggest concern is still a Chinese move to the west, into Central Asia. Access to the Caspian Sea and their Iranian oil interests are much more lucarative in the near future. Posted by: Alex at September 19, 2012 12:57 AM




I think china will eventually try to seize the oil fields in the ME. Its only a matter of time.

Posted by: Berserker at September 18, 2012 09:15 PM (FMbng)

510 Actually the DE .50cal is not that terrible on the recoil  Its still stout but the weight of the whole gun drags your arms down.  Fired one once, was definitely a two handed shoot.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 18, 2012 09:16 PM (qjrXu)

511 I think china will eventually try to seize the oil fields in the ME. Its only a matter of time.

Sounds like a win to me.  Let them deal with the nutty Islamists for a while...

Posted by: @PurpAv at September 18, 2012 09:16 PM (Qva0e)

512 Only in Lib LaLa land.

Posted by: Pfft at September 19, 2012 01:14 AM (41zfH)



Their greatest 'talent' is inventing history.  That's why they think they're so smart; their delusion compels them to imagine things that didn't happen, but fit their warped world.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 09:17 PM (yYKoR)

513 508 My cousin the plumber got a top of the line Hilti chipping hammer from a junkie for $20 years ago.

Posted by: @PurpAv at September 19, 2012 01:14 AM (Qva0e)


Stolen, I would guess.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 09:18 PM (yYKoR)

514 Howdy, all -- on late and can't say much 'cause we're on the road.....how's it going with everyone tonight?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2012 09:18 PM (n0q1B)

515 I wouldn't bother reading his drivel but "Thou shalt not steal" is older than pretty much every state and operates at level above the concept of "state". Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 19, 2012 01:11 AM (X3lox) The cockroaches are coming out from under the rocks. They always believed this crap, but now they are open about it. Whether is it just hubris and they foolishly believe that people wholeheartedly support it... or enough people won't stand against this in November to effectively justify and entrench their lunacy for the long run. There is just too much at steak to show any complacency.

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2012 09:19 PM (sZTYJ)

516 511 Actually the DE .50cal is not that terrible on the recoil Its still stout but the weight of the whole gun drags your arms down. Fired one once, was definitely a two handed shoot.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 19, 2012 01:16 AM (qjrXu)


Retrofitting a 30-06 with a pistol grip would be cheaper, and have about the same effect.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 09:19 PM (yYKoR)

517 I used to have a 44 automag. That was the most insane thing I ever owned. I eventually sold it, because it took an hour to make 9 fucking rounds. Still, I wish I would have kept it.

Posted by: Berserker at September 18, 2012 09:19 PM (FMbng)

518 Cthulhu move away from thar!  Californy is the place to be.  Movie stars, swimming pools.  And Gushka and Dinsey! 

Safe and fun trip.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 18, 2012 09:20 PM (qjrXu)

519

Posted by: Gem at September 19, 2012 01:05 AM (zw+pb)

 

He's been moving like crazy visiting states as far as I can tell. The only way to know is from tweets by people meeting him though because the  CCM  refuses to acknowldge he's alive.  I think that since they can't make him seem stupid like they did with Palin (you there NCJ?) and the "he's so mean" thing wilted so quickly, all they can do is ignore him and not let the message of *real* hope get out.

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 18, 2012 09:20 PM (chdbY)

520 512 I think china will eventually try to seize the oil fields in the ME. Its only a matter of time. Sounds like a win to me. Let them deal with the nutty Islamists for a while... Go long on popcorn futures. The Chinese don't do PC or racial guilt.

Posted by: rickl at September 18, 2012 09:20 PM (sdi6R)

521 My honey-bunny most favorite pistol is my humble Ruger GP-100 .357 mag.  Effin' tack driver, and enough punch to knock anybody down with one shot.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 09:21 PM (yYKoR)

522 Howdy, Cooth! Whatcha doin' on the road? Driving someone to MADNESS? get it? driving? to madness? cause elder gods and...well I thought it was funny...

Posted by: Robert at September 18, 2012 09:22 PM (4ixH5)

523 wow watching letterman footage. TFG looks like a drag queen . TOO uch makeup. made it hard to look at him seriously. looks like hes got botox and restyline too. and LOTS of it. also told a douchbaggy story about his wife. up on youtube. you can find it.

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at September 18, 2012 09:22 PM (r7Ddb)

524 506 Pfft, if the PRC occupies those islands and says those waters are now PRC territorial waters. Followed by deploying their aircraft carrier plus subs to enforce their political will. Then Beijing tells South Korea and Taiwan they will get their oil only if they surrender to Pyongyang and Beijing. That is how things could spiral into World War III.

*****************

Please tell us how those countries get their oil NOW.  Do they get it from China?  How much oil to they get from china?

Then tell us how China could interfere with that oil supply line, AND prevent the US and Canada from adding to those supplies.

Then tell us how China's assuming an openly hostile stance toward the US, Korea, Taiwan and Japan could possibly benefit them.

We owe China gazillions...on paper.  What if we say , "We will stiff you and default on our debt" if you harm our allies?

Would China attack us in attempt to destroy our economy---and thereby insure we will NEVER pay back the debt??

Inquiring minds want to know!~!!


Posted by: Double Pfft at September 18, 2012 09:22 PM (41zfH)

525 519 Cthulhu move away from thar! Californy is the place to be. Movie stars, swimming pools. And Gushka and Dinsey!

Safe and fun trip.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 19, 2012 01:20 AM (qjrXu)



Sadly, I already live in California -- in fact, I was born here. We're just doing a trip down to SoCal. Tomorrow, we're going to tour Lotusland.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2012 09:23 PM (n0q1B)

526 "The concept of "redistribution" falsely implies that the existence of property is prior to the existence of the state."


Don't call them liberals.

Posted by: fluffy at September 18, 2012 09:23 PM (z9HTb)

527 yep.....Vita is already dead

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 09:25 PM (tw6Ar)

528 Please tell us how those countries get their oil NOW. Do they get it from China? How much oil to they get from china? Then tell us how China could interfere with that oil supply line, AND prevent the US and Canada from adding to those supplies. Then tell us how China's assuming an openly hostile stance toward the US, Korea, Taiwan and Japan could possibly benefit them. We owe China gazillions...on paper. What if we say , "We will stiff you and default on our debt" if you harm our allies? Would China attack us in attempt to destroy our economy---and thereby insure we will NEVER pay back the debt?? Inquiring minds want to know!~!! Posted by: Double Pfft at September 19, 2012 01:22 AM (41zfH) The Communist Chinese leaders feel that they will be OK, and any pain will be delegated to the masses, who will support the elite nontheless because of nationalist froth and violence. They may hurt in the short term, but they figure that the U.S. will wuss out and they can outlast everyone else with their surplus populations. As a bonus, their population problem gets solved! That, and if things get really bad for social stability in China, the leaders might be willing to try something desperate... or perhaps the leaders buy their own B.S. about superiority. This will not end well...

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 18, 2012 09:25 PM (sZTYJ)

529 so if you ever want to launch a product, never name it Life

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 09:27 PM (tw6Ar)

530 The Hobbit Soundtrack's "Down, Down to Gobblin Town":

http://youtu.be/ogTDa-vG2MQ


Posted by: derit at September 18, 2012 09:27 PM (ruiF1)

531 I just watched the whole flight of Liberty Bell 7 on YouTube. Well, TV coverage of the beginning, followed by modern animation of the other phases of the flight. But it has the full audio. For morons of a certain age, lunarmodule5's YouTube page is awesome. He's collected an amazing amount of live TV footage of space flights from the 60s. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zybhDAkAzls&feature=g-all-u

Posted by: rickl at September 18, 2012 09:27 PM (sdi6R)

532 523 Howdy, Cooth!

Whatcha doin' on the road?

Driving someone to MADNESS?


get it? driving? to madness? cause elder gods and...well I thought it was funny...

Posted by: Robert at September 19, 2012 01:22 AM (4ixH5)



Actually, being out with all the clueless yahoos on the road is driving *me* to madness. But we're tucked in now, and I'm full of pea soup.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2012 09:28 PM (n0q1B)

533 The Communist Chinese leaders feel that they will be OK, and any pain will be delegated to the masses, who will support the elite nontheless because of nationalist froth and violence. They may hurt in the short term, but they figure that the U.S. will wuss out and they can outlast everyone else with their surplus populations.

As a bonus, their population problem gets solved!

That, and if things get really bad for social stability in China, the leaders might be willing to try something desperate... or perhaps the leaders buy their own B.S. about superiority.

This will not end well...

They are already desperate, and in serious demographic decline. Not as bad as Japan, but their population is rapidly aging, and they're aborting all the females.  China is not going to be a serious power, ever.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 09:28 PM (yYKoR)

534 ""For morons of a certain age, lunarmodule5's YouTube page is awesome. He's collected an amazing amount of live TV footage of space flights from the 60s.""


Which age would that be? The ones too young to have witnessed it, or the ones old enough to have celebrated the moon landing by dressing up going out for a round  bingo? lol

Posted by: Berserker at September 18, 2012 09:31 PM (FMbng)

535 or the ones old enough to have celebrated the moon landing by dressing up AND going out for a round OF bingo?


jeez i left too many words out of that last sentence. mmm good wine.

Posted by: Berserker at September 18, 2012 09:33 PM (FMbng)

536 if you ever want to launch a product, never name it Life


Pray tell, good Sir, why not?

Posted by: Quaker Oats Co. at September 18, 2012 09:34 PM (z9HTb)

537

Posted by: derit at September 19, 2012 01:27 AM (ruiF1)

 

Am I lame? I *love* all the music from that movie. On the other hand, I *hate* how they changed the end to have almost all the dwarves die because they just *had* to make the point that war is baaaaaad.

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 18, 2012 09:34 PM (chdbY)

538

A sip O' Red.....

 

and, I just read on....for now.....

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 18, 2012 09:38 PM (2IlPT)

539 538 if you ever want to launch a product, never name it Life


====


But Mikey likes it! Hey Mikey!

Posted by: sistrum at September 18, 2012 09:39 PM (SUlmX)

540 lol and people where happy that Kaz Hirai was taking over Sony. Brilliant idea of his to jack up the price of the PS3

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 09:41 PM (tw6Ar)

541 20 minutes in and I already want to slap every cast member of The Hunger Games. Even the extras. But especially the screenwriter.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at September 18, 2012 09:43 PM (B4dTc)

542 It's never lame to love a powerful soundtrack.

"Funny Little Things":

http://youtu.be/3oBvkWgzzOI

Posted by: derit at September 18, 2012 09:43 PM (ruiF1)

543 no wonder they work on robots so much! better a labour force of uncanny-valley creepy-bots than any dirty 外人!

Posted by: jimi ray at September 19, 2012 01:40 AM (79EF9)


Hello Kitty was their way of introducing "creepy" to the general population.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 18, 2012 09:44 PM (yYKoR)

544 Desert Eagles are nice, BUT they are picky about ammo. They usually come with a list of approved brands and loadings, and the list should be observed. It's mostly a power issue, and a jammed round is the usual indicator (usually FTE, as the slide doesn't go back far enough). My.357 is a bit finicky, and having to work the slide with a bad ammo selection is annoying.

Posted by: Arbalest at September 18, 2012 09:48 PM (OVVMa)

545 driving one to madness requires a silver spoon ...

Posted by: Adriane at September 18, 2012 09:50 PM (/OhbZ)

546 The MSM insist that Romney has "disrespected" the voters with his 47% comment.  Excuse me, what were the last 4 years of them incessantly screaming "RAAAAACIST!" about anybody who dared refrain from slobbering over TFG? Love taps?

Posted by: sistrum at September 18, 2012 09:53 PM (SUlmX)

547

Then,

 

There be the 454 cal. CASULL round. Made just for stoppin the Grizzley Bear at "POINT BLANK RANGE!" From a WHEEL GUN no less.

 

Seen the offerings from various outfitters..never fired that beast!

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 18, 2012 09:55 PM (2IlPT)

Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at September 18, 2012 09:58 PM (EJ6V1)

549 I hate doing these Super Beta Prostate commercials.

Posted by: Joe Theisman's aging prostate at September 18, 2012 09:58 PM (I2LwF)

550 548

That's too true.

Silver Spoons theme song:

http://youtu.be/Vk91ymiO3iA

Posted by: derit at September 18, 2012 09:59 PM (ruiF1)

551 Eric Claeys at George Mason has two papers that counter Kos's assertion.  One is "Takings, Regulations, and Natural Property Rights," and the other "Jefferson Meets Coase."  Both are available for download from SSRN.

The left has been very, very busy in the US legal system.

Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 09:59 PM (ptlfZ)

552 South Korea, Taiwan, and Japan get their oil from the Middle East.

A belligerent PRC sitting atop the Spratleys and Senkakus, as in a game of GO, could adversely affect those oil supply lines.  As in VLCCs refusing to risk loss due to the PRC's actions.  Insurance rates would also go up for all shipping in the region. Costs and delays would be passed onto end consumers.  Japan has an oil reserve so would probably survive until the rerouted VLCCs arrive in port.  South Korea and Taiwan would not have that option.  In the past the PRC has acted militarily against Philippine and Vietnamese fishermen around the Spratleys.  In fact the PRC has claimed the whole South China Sea as their own.  Did I mention the current VLCC routes for Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea pass by the Spratleys?

Are these actions in anyway what we would call sane?  No.  But look at the PRC.  The PRC is facing some serious internal issues.  The weaker the US currency gets, the less attractive the cheap products of the PRC are.  Which means companies like Foxxcon might get outbid by places like India to make all those Apple products. Then there is the issue of their aging population and 30 million men who will never marry, that is pushing them to a demographic cliff.  There is also endemic corruption in the bureaucracy that has alienated many.   And of course we have read the reports of all the bridges suddenly collapsing in their country. 

So in order to prop themselves up and distract their populace, Beijing is acting like Argentina.  Bang the grievance drum against Japan over some islands. 

If Japan and the PRC do get in a shooting war, the PRC has already discounted Obama from doing anything.  After all, due to Beijing objections, Obama cancelled the sale of 66 new F-16s to Taiwan.  So would owning all this debt, which Beijing stopped buying US Treasury bonds two years ago, really stop a ruling elite who feel their golden rice bowl is about to be spilled?  There is a good chance no, better to try to ride the tiger than face a firing squad is what they are thinking.  Now add in their ego of being the Middle Kingdom who has been denied its rightful place on the world stage.  The recipe is there for a nasty event that could get millions killed.

Put yourself in the shoes of South Korea or Taiwan if their oil supply lines are blockaded.  South Korea just has to be told, behave yourself.  Align with Beijing and North Korea won't invade.  And you will get oil again.  Taiwan is under a similar gun, after all Beijing calls them a breakaway province.  Beijing just has to say surrender, be like Hong Kong SAR and get your oil again.  And if the US is unwilling to stand up for these countries in a forceful manner, then the US is finished as a Pacific and probably a global power.

So that whole area is very unstable.  Am I being very pessimistic on this?  Yes, the only thing I have not addressed is the actual use of military power - ie shooting things and sinking ships.  If Beijing does things smartly and quickly, there won't be any shooting.  And as I said, the US will look impotent and no longer a super power.  Which in Obama's worldview would be fine, the US as the world's sole superpower is something he does not like.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 18, 2012 09:59 PM (qjrXu)

553 Not recommended for drunken late-night reading.

Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 10:00 PM (ptlfZ)

554 548 driving one to madness requires a silver spoon ...

Posted by: Adriane at September 19, 2012 01:50 AM (/OhbZ)


Ooooh-ooooh, doesn't one have to be a female of a particular type for that to be the case?


Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2012 10:00 PM (n0q1B)

555 Yeah,  I  knew  "Ginger".  Knew  her  well.  She  wasn't  a  true  'ginger'  IYKWIM.

Posted by: Dawn Wells at September 18, 2012 10:01 PM (EJ6V1)

556 Speaking of the slimy MSM reminds me, I notice that the LA Times has shrunk its page size YET AGAIN. This only a few months after coalescing 3 weekly sections (Monday's Health, Thursday's Food and Saturday's Home) into one grabbag mess simply called "Saturday" for its day of appearance. Yeah Times, keep playin' that ol' "In the Tank Blues" while the floe you're floating on keeps melting away.

Posted by: sistrum at September 18, 2012 10:04 PM (SUlmX)

557 Just saw a new Romney headline. The MSM gaffe manufacturing machine is working so hard smoke is coming out of it. If I have caught the wave correctly I think by morning they're going to say that the Romney video proves he wants to increase income taxes on poor people.

Posted by: Hopped Up on Something at September 18, 2012 10:07 PM (1FkrP)

558

555

So bottom line.. Obama needs to be simply...CRUSHED come November?

 

That the drift? Or did I miss a CNN memo to troll the Romney bus for smelly socks or tampons left "un-flushed?" 

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 18, 2012 10:09 PM (2IlPT)

559 474 I think I need to make a living will just in case and if I am completely unresponsive and don't have a pulse do not call 911. Shitty day. Mom on life support and completely unresponsive. We said don't pull the plug right now since out of state siblings want to come to bedside. I was going to stay in her room so she would not be alone. HA! she is getting the intensive care all right. The staff are very lovely, telling her what they are doing and taking steps to keep her comfortable. I'd rather have less fuss since this is not going to be long term but they earnestly mean well and its not like they are disturbing mom's rest.... Seems like better care than she got when she was just sick and not dying; maybe this is just a better hospital.

Posted by: palerider at September 19, 2012 01:00 AM (hVt9h)


So sorry, palerider... Lost my mom last fall after a week in ICU.  It was the hardest day of my life, and I doubt I'll ever get over it.  But the ICU staff was amazing and very caring - I'll always be grateful to them.

Posted by: CJHinTX at September 18, 2012 10:09 PM (Xz3iS)

560

I kid....

 

night all!

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 18, 2012 10:11 PM (2IlPT)

561

For those who wonder - here is the beginning of the Letterman interview (from Newsbusters: http://tinyurl.com/9eq9xzp):


After telling the President he looked great, Letterman began his interview with the most powerful man on the planet with a real hardball question: “How much do you weigh?”

Obama responded, “About 180.”

“180 looks good on you,” replied Letterman. “That’s just about where I am, and I don’t look so good at 180.”

“You know, you look sharp,” objected the President.

“You haven’t seen me naked,” disagreed Letterman.

“We’re gonna keep it that way,” replied the President.

After some laughter, the pair fist-bumped with Letterman saying, “That’s fair enough. Alright, I like that. We'll keep it that way.”

And thatÂ’s how LettermanÂ’s interview with the President began.

Heady stuff, huh?


Posted by: CJHinTX at September 18, 2012 10:12 PM (Xz3iS)

562 Jimi Ray,

Have you considered huffing?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 18, 2012 10:16 PM (3CiXB)

563 So how is it that Alaska has the fewest non-payers, by far? Only 21% Alaska doesn't scream affluence to me.

Posted by: t-bird at September 18, 2012 10:16 PM (FcR7P)

564 palerider - prayers and good wishes ...

Posted by: Adriane at September 18, 2012 10:17 PM (/OhbZ)

565 Ooooh-ooooh, doesn't one have to be a female of a particular type for that to be the case? Well yeah! You have to be a twitchy woman ... you know like a tweeker coming down ... or something like that ... Excuse me while I kiss this guy ...

Posted by: Adriane at September 18, 2012 10:18 PM (/OhbZ)

566 Anna: China occupying the Spratleys is a problem, but routing oil supply lines to the east of Borneo and the Philippines would solve the problem for Japan and SK. Taiwan will likely join the PRC within the next 50 years. This reduces back to China occupying the Spratleys. Is there oil there? Probably, and lots, if Brunei is any indication. What will Vietnam and the Philippines do, or try to do? If we do nothing, then we have a problem, but it isn't necessarily the end of the US being perceived as The Hyperpower. If we support our allies in the region, then the problem is mostly theirs. If China invades Vietnam, then we support Vietnam diplomatically, and maybe with some ex-Soviet (or whatever they use now) weaponry. The Chinese remember the last time they tried to punish Vietnam. If China invades the Philippines, then we might have to get involved. But the Philippines are much farther away than Taiwan, and China has little amphibious capability. Given that Clark and Subic are no longer ours, our commitment is roughly the same as that to Vietnam. But I see the problem limited to occupying a couple of coral reefs in the South China Sea, and perhaps lots of "fishing boat" skirmishing and an occasional shot, at least for the next 20 years. Fortunately, I expect Teh JEF and his legacy to be long gone by then. Everyone is voting for Romney in November, and getting as many of their friends and family to vote for Romney in November, correct?

Posted by: Arbalest at September 18, 2012 10:19 PM (OVVMa)

567 Ooooh, ooooh! Can I play?

Posted by: Fembot Fluke at September 18, 2012 10:20 PM (ptlfZ)

568 heard rumours of a good poll for Romney in PA.... Anyone know which outfit? I'd have more confidence if it wasn't a mickey mouse polling firm....

Posted by: AussieMarcus at September 18, 2012 10:21 PM (RstsB)

569 To provide some balance to those who are up in arms because so many "don't have skin in the game" and that somehow it would be more fair if they had to pay or pay more.

Here's an analysis of who doesn't pay, why they don't pay and what they do pay in Federal and State taxes.

Perhaps we shouldn't be playing the class warfare game that the Democrats love to instigate.

I would love to see the country make it easier for folks to be employed at a wage that would afford them the basics and also allow them to get healthcare when they need it and not when it's too late.

So far everyone seems to think that by dumping all those who don't pay off of the government rolls that suddenly we'll be solvent again. This is a mistake and poor thinking. Understand that most people are on the government rolls for a reason. Yes some are there for bogus or borderline reasons but the majority are there because they either can't find work or can't work due to illness, age and other problems. Those problems won't go away by removing those people from the government rolls.

One has to think of what will happen to those removed. They're not going to disappear and in this economy and the regulations imposed on business, they aren't going to be able to find any work even if they could work.

There are no easy solutions to how we got where we are today. To think that changing the tax code to force more to pay what little they have on taxes as being reasonable or fair aren't thinking with their brain.

This is a article about the misconceptions and realities of who pays and doesn't pay federal taxes.

http://tinyurl.com/3rmvj6a

cbpp.org Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Posted by: Jcw46 at September 18, 2012 10:23 PM (Vh0f5)

570 Q. for the Horde: is some form of redistribution (of income) bad per se, or are we just doing it wrong?

Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 10:23 PM (ptlfZ)

571 tick, tock, tick, tock...

Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 10:25 PM (ptlfZ)

572 hmm $33 for Higurashi volume 1 and 2

Posted by: The Dude at September 18, 2012 10:27 PM (tw6Ar)

573 Q. for the Horde: is some form of redistribution (of income) bad per se, or are we just doing it wrong?Posted by: Enby

Answer lies in basic human nature; what motivation is there in having one's livelihood siphoned off without a choice?

How is that charity? It isn't. It's thuggery in the name of charity.

Choice is at the heart of charity and will is at the heart of Christianity.

No choice, no will. No will, no morality.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 18, 2012 10:27 PM (3CiXB)

574 568 Ooooh-ooooh, doesn't one have to be a female of a particular type for that to be the case?

Well yeah! You have to be a twitchy woman ... you know like a tweeker coming down ... or something like that ...

Excuse me while I kiss this guy ...

Posted by: Adriane at September 19, 2012 02:18 AM (/OhbZ)



I thought the Twitchy Woman was Michele Malkin....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2012 10:30 PM (n0q1B)

575 Oooh ooh, twitchy woman,
See how high she flies.......

Posted by: sistrum at September 18, 2012 10:32 PM (SUlmX)

576 Slappy said: In addition to party ID, I would also like to see the results if other aspects of the samples were adjusted to match the likely turnout, such as various demographic factors

Dave did nice work with the re-weighting, but we need to be conservative at this point. Rassmussen is a single data-point and while I've heard the analysts guys in Boston and Chicago both saw movement, I'm fuzzy on details. I do know the Chicago guys are handicapping public polling by a point or two due to this.

I think the best data we have is to look at the large sample, high frequency daily-trackers, Rasmussen and Gallup, as the most probable to be accurate. They are routinely sampling thousands and see the trends, both regionally and temporally. They are also outputting roughly the same values, Romney +1 or 2. Rasmussen is LV and R+2, Gallup is RV and O+2, but over a 7-day window with Obama+5 at 6 days ago. This is good.

What demonstrates bias is that we should assume given this close to the real value, as we add more polls they should statistically fall on either side of the R+1|even point with equal probability. Yet, there are NO polls showing this.

A MaxEnt Bayesian like myself would find this remarkable. Yet, in the media world they have priors to consider, like sucking on Obama's cock.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at September 18, 2012 10:33 PM (Wa+Fw)

577 A week plus of taking in the glory of God's green (and red and yellow and black and white) earth. A week plus of gasping at the grandeur of the American Southwest. Heaven.

And now, a few hours into catching up on the political jawing and I'm back to teeth-grinding rage.

I'm tempted to pull out the computer plug and crawl into a bunker until Election Day. Ain't nothing now I could read that would change what I would do in the booth, anyway.

So night all. Still have to lighten the accumulated load on the DVR...

Posted by: sistrum at September 18, 2012 10:36 PM (SUlmX)

578 Interesting.  Japanese electronic firms and Bandai are shifting out of the PRC and Vietnam to the Philippines.

http://tinyurl.com/8ruf858

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 18, 2012 10:36 PM (qjrXu)

579 573 Q. for the Horde: is some form of redistribution (of income) bad per se, or are we just doing it wrong?

Posted by: Enby at September 19, 2012 02:23 AM (ptlfZ)



Couldn't be simpler to understand. What makes the government the government? -- a monopoly on the legal use of coercion. What form of redistribution is good, even laudable? That which proceeds from people's best natures and is voluntary. That's why charity is laudable and government redistribution loathsome -- an entity dealing with coercion cannot just pretend that its actions aren't coercive.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2012 10:37 PM (n0q1B)

580 Jeez, I wish I had one of TPOP's MYO machines.  I'm sitting here rolling cigarettes from yesterday's Pall Mall butts.  At least I can still get PM non-filters for $4.38 around here.

Hard to disagree with the sentiment, weft, but I'm interested less in recipients as objects of charity and more as economic and moral actors.

A society can certainly make a collective decision to redistribute income.  All (?) of the modern democracies have done so.  It doesn't work much of anywhere, certainly not here, in terms of encouraging recipients to become more engaged economic and moral actors. 

Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 10:37 PM (ptlfZ)

581 You can add in the political dimension as well as the economic and moral.  Wherever we go from here, we go together, all 370 million of us.  I'd like all the help we can get.

Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 10:43 PM (ptlfZ)

582 I thought the Twitchy Woman was Michele Malkin.... OK, so maybe it was kitschy woman ... You know the kind that spends too much money on something like silver spoons ... So relax and feel the beat from the tangerine, oh yeah ...

Posted by: Adriane at September 18, 2012 10:43 PM (/OhbZ)

583 Q. for the Horde: is some form of redistribution (of income) bad per se, or are we just doing it wrong? Posted by: Enby at September 19, 2012 02:23 AM (ptlfZ) The government is not operating in order to redistribute anything. Government should be taxing only to pay for the Constitutional operations of it, not to punish, not to coerce, not to mandate (though that is still NOT a tax, no matter what that piece of shit Benedickhead Roberts says), not to nudge ... not to anything but run itself within its Constitutional bounds. The federal government's only real tasks are to preserve OUR rights, preserve and defend the sanctity of contracts, provide the minimal services as explicitly defined and handle dealings among the states, with foreign nations and our defense. That's pretty much it. State governments are given much more leeway but that is only because one is free to move to another state. So ... there is no "correct" redistribution of property that the federal government is supposed to be working towards. If a state wants to launch into such a shit-ass leftist stance then it certainly may, within reason, but it has to pay for itself and cannot be bailed out by the feds.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 18, 2012 10:45 PM (X3lox)

584

Enby.

 

Shaddup.

Posted by: 99% Self Banned at September 18, 2012 10:46 PM (1Y+hH)

585 Hard to disagree with the sentiment, weft, but I'm interested less in recipients as objects of charity and more as economic and moral actors. Posted by: Enby[/]i

How is the fundamental transaction not at the heart of charity, that of success?

A society can certainly make a collective decision to redistribute income.

And that decision is theft.

All (?) of the modern democracies have done so.

Nope. The basis of taxation is to ameliorate the cost of a Federal government, that is, to pay for the cost of the agreed functions of a central state. Those functions were clearly laid out in the document that the Left seeks to shit upon at every turn.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 18, 2012 10:47 PM (3CiXB)

586 A society can certainly make a collective decision to redistribute income. All (?) of the modern democracies have done so. It doesn't work much of anywhere, certainly not here, in terms of encouraging recipients to become more engaged economic and moral actors.

Posted by: Enby at September 19, 2012 02:37 AM (ptlfZ)



Here, you make the classic mistake of equating society and government.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2012 10:48 PM (n0q1B)

587 Romney is going to win in Pennsylvania.  Fuck polls.  He will win.

Posted by: Truman North at September 18, 2012 10:51 PM (I2LwF)

588 Last bit for now, don't want to be a bore.

I take it as given that there's no viable coalition currently to eliminate transfer payments, but current methods debase the humanity of those who must rely on them.  In addition, they have an insidious effect on our system of government.  I know how we can reverse both those effects.

Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 10:51 PM (ptlfZ)

589 Jeez, I wish I had one of TPOP's MYO machines. I'm sitting here rolling cigarettes from yesterday's Pall Mall butts. At least I can still get PM non-filters for $4.38 around here. Posted by: Enby at September 19, 2012 02:37 AM (ptlfZ) Heh. I've been there. And worse. If you just want to dip your toes in the MYO, buy a hand injector (around $ and a lb of tobacco and 2 cartons of tubes. Not too much of an investment ($30, or so) to see if you like it. Good to just have around for times like these, if nothing else. I gave my view on your second part above.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 18, 2012 10:52 PM (X3lox)

590 Hey Kids,


long dirty day.  no hot water.  yay!!

Posted by: jc at September 18, 2012 10:53 PM (ufJKx)

591 BCochran1981 at September 18, 2012 11:20 PM (GEICT) Belated prayers and good wishes for your BIL. May God Bless Our Troops ...

Posted by: Adriane at September 18, 2012 10:57 PM (/OhbZ)

592 long dirty day. no hot water. yay!! So is it the water heater or the hot water heater that isn't working? Pulled the circuit breaker on the water heater on the new old house to save some electricity bill pennies ...

Posted by: Adriane at September 18, 2012 10:59 PM (/OhbZ)

593 Enby,

It appears you don't really have a strong grounding in conservative thought. Here's a few authors that my fellow conservatives might suggest.

The Bible; Old and New Testaments
Aristotle
Burke
Tocqueville
Cropsey
Kirk
Hayek
Kristol, Irving
Sowell

Get back to us after you done a survey. Until then, the concern window is closed.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 18, 2012 11:00 PM (3CiXB)

594 593 Hey Kids,


long dirty day. no hot water. yay!!

Posted by: jc at September 19, 2012 02:53 AM (ufJKx)



Winding your way down on Baker Street
Light in your head and dead on your feet
Well another crazy day, you'll xdrinkx stink the night away
And forget about everything

Posted by: cthulhu at September 18, 2012 11:00 PM (n0q1B)

595 Sorry, cthulu.  Amend that to "the citizens of a constitutional democracy can certainly make..."  Citizens, in the proper numbers and following the proper procedures, can make a collective decision to do any damned thing.

And the lesson I take away from appeals to our founding document, which I revere, is that as a historical matter it didn't prevent us from getting where we are today, hoping and praying that the republic can last another four years if the election...

Hell, I don't even want to say it.  I don't mind shutting up.


Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 11:00 PM (ptlfZ)

596 No need to be condescending, weft.

Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 11:01 PM (ptlfZ)

597 No need to be condescending, weft.Posted by: Enby

Concern trolls deserve nothing less.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 18, 2012 11:04 PM (3CiXB)

598 Not a troll, no more than you.  I'll put you down for "bad per se."

Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 11:08 PM (ptlfZ)

599 595 long dirty day. no hot water. yay!!

So is it the water heater or the hot water heater that isn't working?

Pulled the circuit breaker on the water heater on the new old house to save some electricity bill pennies ...

Posted by: Adriane at September 19, 2012 02:59 AM (/OhbZ)


===


upgrade of furnace and water heater -- lots of stuff to rework, ducts, pipes, flues --  been at it a day and 1/2.  hope to finish tomorrow.

Posted by: jc at September 18, 2012 11:12 PM (ufJKx)

600 OHNOES ... jc got the flu ... or something like that ... best of luck on the rework : -)))

Posted by: Adriane at September 18, 2012 11:14 PM (/OhbZ)

601 Not a troll, no more than you. I'll put you down for "bad per se."Posted by: Enby

Oh, a list. How Soviet.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 18, 2012 11:14 PM (3CiXB)

602

Greg Gutfeld is basically taking all the jokes from the front page of this blog from today.. all in a row...

awesome

Posted by: Truman North at September 18, 2012 11:15 PM (I2LwF)

603 No, weft, just my original question, for which "bad per se" was one of the two multiple-choice answers.

Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 11:17 PM (ptlfZ)

604 Palerider, if you are still here I just want to say I empathize with your situation, having been in it myself more than once.  You are in my prayers.

Posted by: Mayday at September 18, 2012 11:17 PM (F3s39)

605 Yeah, TPOP, I've thought about your MYO posts from the night day several times.  I'm pretty much ready to give it a go.   Thirty bucks is an encouraging figure.  I was worried that just the machine would be considerably more than that.

Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 11:24 PM (ptlfZ)

606 Oops,"other night," that is.

Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 11:26 PM (ptlfZ)

607 gotta go kids.  CYA

Posted by: jc at September 18, 2012 11:27 PM (ufJKx)

608 Good night, jc. Good luck tomorrow!

Posted by: Adriane at September 18, 2012 11:29 PM (/OhbZ)

609 Greg Allman - Midnight Rider ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yojZ-Ksr8AE

Posted by: Adriane at September 18, 2012 11:31 PM (/OhbZ)

610 Crosby, Stills, & Nash .... live version of Just a Song ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF-oWhD2itE

Posted by: Adriane at September 18, 2012 11:35 PM (/OhbZ)

611 Joe Cocker - Bye, Bye, Blackbird - Jimmy Page on guitar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYa_PPkBQi4

Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 11:36 PM (ptlfZ)

612 Goodnight, all.

Posted by: Enby at September 18, 2012 11:38 PM (ptlfZ)

613 Watching the FNC crawl - comment about TFG attending two NYC fundraisers, including the one with Beyonce and JayZ... I'd love to see a videotape of THAT!  Just imagine all the warm, fuzzy, inclusive comments from the SCOAMF...

Posted by: CJHinTX at September 18, 2012 11:40 PM (Xz3iS)

614 Paul McCartney, Blackbird, live ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_SrYqLrljU

Posted by: Adriane at September 19, 2012 12:06 AM (/OhbZ)

615 I see that Politico is touting an AP report which selectively edited remarks made by Ryan in response to Romney's 47% comment. The three points he was emphasizing are that (1) Obama's policies promote socialism, (2) we are reaching a tipping point, and (3) it does not have to be this way.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 19, 2012 12:18 AM (YjDyJ)

616 Bob Seger - Turn the Page http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3khH9ih2XJg

Posted by: Adriane at September 19, 2012 12:21 AM (/OhbZ)

617 Miss80sBaby at September 19, 2012 04:18 AM (YjDyJ) I fear history ... but hope for the best ...

Posted by: Adriane at September 19, 2012 12:22 AM (/OhbZ)

618 There's a rumour over at Hillbuzz that the Romney camp were the ones who leaked the 2 campaign dinner videos to Mother Jones. No substance to it at all, but wouldn't it be hilarious? I wouldn't put it past the Romney people, they did the same with some internals back in June that totally freaked out the Obama staffers and led to the infamous "you didn't build that' fiasco by O. Anybody have any info on where the tapes originated?

Posted by: spotted reptile at September 19, 2012 12:27 AM (TI2NF)

619 Steely Dan - FM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV3zWSawJiw

Posted by: Adriane at September 19, 2012 12:31 AM (/OhbZ)

620 Roses are red, As everyone can see, But you won't see me much longer, It's time for bed for me ...

Posted by: Adriane at September 19, 2012 12:32 AM (/OhbZ)

621 Open the windows, And Shut the Front Door, "GOOD MORNING, VIC" At number 624 ...

Posted by: Adriane at September 19, 2012 12:33 AM (/OhbZ)

622 Elvis! Blue Suede Shoes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QmuMD634vU

Posted by: Adriane at September 19, 2012 12:42 AM (/OhbZ)

623 Good Night, all better tomorrows ...

Posted by: Adriane at September 19, 2012 12:42 AM (/OhbZ)

624 just a heads up I think the new concern troll meme for the next day or two will be "There is talk of removing Romney from the ticket!" I've seen a couple of "I heard from a friend of a friend of a close source in the GOP that (random other Republican) was in talks with (random GOP hard head) about taking over from Mitt..." comments popping up on conservative sites. Seems to be the last desperate grab, can't attack Romeny anymore so try to spread the word he won't really be the candidate anymore......

Posted by: AussieMarcus at September 19, 2012 01:48 AM (RstsB)

625 I'm not done being absent, but I wanted to say to Palerider: Prayers and warm thoughts for you, your Mother, and your family. Nobody wants to live through that, and yet somehow we all do. I cannot imagine how I will cope when that day comes.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 19, 2012 02:10 AM (bxiXv)

626 For The Emperor!

Posted by: Mortis at September 19, 2012 02:18 AM (0cWkE)

627 "Reagan closed the asylums and filled our streets with loonies"

you can thank Kevin Spacey for this one.  He repeats it everywhere he goes and is never challenged.

Posted by: Yes at September 19, 2012 03:41 AM (/ItEQ)

628 579

What demonstrates bias is that we should assume given this close to the real value, as we add more polls they should statistically fall on either side of the R+1|even point with equal probability. Yet, there are NO polls showing this.

A MaxEnt Bayesian like myself would find this remarkable. Yet, in the media world they have priors to consider, like sucking on Obama's cock.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at September 19, 2012 02:33 AM (Wa+Fw)


Exactly. Because of this obvious bias, the pollster with the most rigorous approach in order to achieve accuracy (i.e., Rasmussen) is considered the outlier (and biased to Republicans). The party affiliation weights are the most aggravating but the Left-leaning pollsters can support the overweighting of Democrats by saying that they are just following the margin that existed between Democrats and Republicans in 2008, as if nothing has changed since then. Of course, many of these same pollsters also undersample Independents, when virtually all polls show Romney has a solid lead with Independents. Gee, I wonder whey they're doing that, huh?

Posted by: Slappy at September 19, 2012 06:39 AM (LTbLf)

629 Those states also have the highest immigrant populations I'm guessing

Posted by: bobbymike at September 19, 2012 11:07 AM (wJSZn)

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