September 29, 2012
— JohnE. A bit of a content-lite day. So, watch this.
I disagree a bit with Caddell's reasoning here. Romney did go hard on Benghazi, but the press went into a frenzy about his statement about it. I do not believe that this media sitiuation can be solved by simply having Republicans "be tougher". This is precisely what Romney did.
Anyway, this video is equal parts terrifying and infuriating. And it's got nothing to do with having to look at Caddell. Zing!
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Posted by: Honey Badger at September 29, 2012 04:43 PM (ZhNCB)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 29, 2012 04:46 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: rukiddingme?!? at September 29, 2012 04:48 PM (MbeEN)
Posted by: Winston Smith at September 29, 2012 04:48 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 29, 2012 04:48 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: pointsnfigures at September 29, 2012 04:50 PM (EBPRt)
Pat C makes good points and he is outraged. If only more within the Washington DC bubble would emerge and see just how ruinous the power-brokers in DC within the media and regulators and politicians and lobbyist have become. Cess-pool
Posted by: Yip at September 29, 2012 04:50 PM (Mrdk1)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at September 29, 2012 04:50 PM (0ugir)
Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2012 04:51 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 29, 2012 04:51 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 29, 2012 04:51 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 29, 2012 04:52 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: JohnE. at September 29, 2012 04:52 PM (nRTou)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at September 29, 2012 04:53 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at September 29, 2012 04:53 PM (0ugir)
Posted by: Evilpens at September 29, 2012 04:54 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at September 29, 2012 04:55 PM (Xjdkh)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 29, 2012 04:55 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 29, 2012 04:56 PM (he2LC)
Hello, you future Muslims! It is, I, Hadji, the Muslim Comic.
As a professional comic, who is also of Islam, I can ask you this question:
What is the difference between Pat Caddell and a person who has daily intercourse with a goat, or a camel, or whatever mammal is at hand - so to speak?
Pat Caddell tells the truth.
Democrats - they fuck sheep. Among other mammals.
Thank you thank you thank you.
Give alms to the syphilitic waitresses.
Hadji, out.
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Posted by: Hadji the Muslim Comic at September 29, 2012 04:56 PM (RuUvx)
Posted by: phoenixgirl what did huma abedin know? team dagny at September 29, 2012 04:57 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at September 29, 2012 04:57 PM (0ugir)
Posted by: Jack Bauer's Dad at September 29, 2012 04:59 PM (e4gFq)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 29, 2012 04:59 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Evilpens at September 29, 2012 04:59 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2012 05:00 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Sunny at September 29, 2012 05:00 PM (wSncD)
Posted by: Evilpens at September 29, 2012 05:01 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: Evilpens at September 29, 2012 05:02 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2012 05:04 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Evilpens at September 29, 2012 05:04 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 05:05 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 29, 2012 05:06 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Evilpens at September 29, 2012 05:06 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at September 29, 2012 05:06 PM (M7Cfv)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 29, 2012 05:06 PM (I2LwF)
And by speak to the media I mean rip their heads off and shit down their necks!
Posted by: General Woundwort at September 29, 2012 05:06 PM (DWgdc)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 05:07 PM (CA2NO)
Someone who knows the answer they want to get?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at September 29, 2012 05:07 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: TD at September 29, 2012 05:07 PM (+uFux)
The media rewarded this defiance by throwing their entire weight behind Mitt Romney. Who they immediately began to describe as being the unstoppable presumptive nominee, and who they regularly crowned as a debate victor even when his performance had been mediocre.
This is, of course, precisely what the media did with John McCain in 2008.
And then once Romney went from "presumptive nominee" to actual nominee, the media did precisely what they did to McCain in 2008, which was to immediately turn on him and begin to savage him.
And, just as with McCain in 2008, the Romney campaign staff were caught entirely off guard by this vicious 180-degree turn, and were hapless to respond effectually to it.
"Wait! The media are doing what? Making shit up? Smearing us unfairly? We thought the media were our _friends_! They sure acted that way three months ago."
It's almost as though Romney had picked a bunch of tired old McCain '08 campaign retreads to staff the Romney '12 campaign.
Oh. Wait. Romney DID pick a bunch of tired old McCain '08 campaign retreads to staff the Romney '12 campaign. There's that Harvard MBA brilliance for you.
Anyway, the GOP will continue to get taken aback by this rather obvious tactic by the media unless and until the GOP completely changes the way it campaigns.
A good start would be to put up slates of candidates who all, universally, realize that the media are the auxiliary wing of the Democratic Party, and who all, universally, are willing to constantly and vocally call the media out on their bullshit.
Playing nice and hoping to be liked didn't work for McCain four years ago and it's not working for Romney today.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2012 05:07 PM (ymG7s)
Posted by: Evilpens at September 29, 2012 05:08 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: Evilpens at September 29, 2012 05:09 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: t-bird at September 29, 2012 05:09 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 29, 2012 05:09 PM (ZhNCB)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 05:09 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: sgr at September 29, 2012 05:10 PM (xa5GW)
Also, colleges and universities, Hollywood, egghead scientists, and smart-ass intellectuals.
Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at September 29, 2012 05:11 PM (LyMa3)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at September 29, 2012 05:11 PM (Xjdkh)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 05:11 PM (CA2NO)
This is not democracy. This is corporatist fascism.
Fuck 'em. This is war
Posted by: Albie Damned at September 29, 2012 05:11 PM (Yhu4q)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 29, 2012 05:12 PM (aHR5E)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 29, 2012 05:13 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at September 29, 2012 05:13 PM (M7Cfv)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 29, 2012 05:13 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at September 29, 2012 09:07 PM (CA2NO
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your name and your post suggests you are sympathetic to the belief that terrorist violence is acceptable. is that what you believe?
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 05:14 PM (icwKQ)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 29, 2012 05:14 PM (aHR5E)
Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2012 05:14 PM (z4WKX)
I watched the Cadelll video earlier, what are we to do to get rid of the media? I don't watch them but how many stupid people do? That's the problem, what is the solution besides the internet?
Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2012 09:04 PM (z4WKX)
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go on offense. they get our money from their advertisers. we need to cut off the flow of our money to them. we may be able to do anything about any of the fools that fall for their shit, but we can damn sure stop paying them to hate us.
Posted by: jc at September 29, 2012 05:15 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 05:16 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: comatus at September 29, 2012 05:16 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2012 05:18 PM (sdi6R)
It ends when all GOP candidates start treating the media as Gingrich did -- Enemies.
Posted by: General Woundwort at September 29, 2012 05:18 PM (DWgdc)
Posted by: toby928© polluting your thread with football at September 29, 2012 05:19 PM (QupBk)
Albert Peterson shot dead his wife
and two sons hours after going to church because he dreaded the thought
of Obama winning the election, a family friend has revealed.
A
confidante of the family for the past 25 years has spoken to MailOnline
about the strength and grace of the Peterson family, as well as the
torment that plagued Albert which drove him to shoot dead his wife
Kathleen and his two sons Christopher and Mathew at their suburban home
in DC on Sunday.
A
history of mental illness, the loss of a dear uncle, and a growing fear
of Obama winning a second term in the White House took its toll on the
mind of Mr Peterson, a wealthy defense contractor, the friend said.
Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at September 29, 2012 05:19 PM (LyMa3)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 29, 2012 05:19 PM (aHR5E)
Posted by: comatus at September 29, 2012 05:20 PM (qaVK+)
I presumed that this was a blog where the free exchange of ideas might take place, among reasoned, educated adults. I asked about a screen name that merged the tea party with terrorism, and just asked that person if he or she advocated terrorist violence. I didn't think it would be out of bounds to inquire.
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 05:20 PM (icwKQ)
Posted by: Reality at September 29, 2012 05:20 PM (8hBZi)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 29, 2012 05:21 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Soledad O'MalfunctioningEarpiece at September 29, 2012 05:22 PM (05irm)
"presumed that this was a blog where the free exchange of ideas might take place, among reasoned, educated adults."
Heh.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 29, 2012 05:22 PM (jTKU5)
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 29, 2012 05:22 PM (ZFXqT)
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 05:22 PM (icwKQ)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 29, 2012 05:23 PM (aHR5E)
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 09:22 PM (icwKQ)
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Seriously, go somewhere else to practice. You aren't ready for this place.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 29, 2012 05:24 PM (jTKU5)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 29, 2012 05:24 PM (AZGON)
Meremortal replied "heh" like it was funny, then Honey Badger said my question was ridiculous. Could you explain? Are you not reasoned adults? Is this a blog where discussion is eschewed? I really would like to know.
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 05:24 PM (icwKQ)
Posted by: toby928© polluting your thread with football at September 29, 2012 05:25 PM (QupBk)
The US does seem to be having a lot of trouble with security contractors these days. It would sure be interesting to have subpoena power over the bank accounts of some senior GSA officials, yes?
Posted by: Hrothgar (Dagny Aficionado ) at September 29, 2012 05:25 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 29, 2012 05:26 PM (aHR5E)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 29, 2012 05:26 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 05:26 PM (CA2NO)
In the early 1980s, journalist Joseph Kraft published an essay in "Commentary", in which he compared the media to, in his term, an "occupying army": a alien force that is inflicting itself on a population, to suppress and oppress it.
And so it is, blatantly so. But, thanks to the Breibart alt-media, we now can wage guerrilla warfare against it.
Posted by: Brown Line at September 29, 2012 05:26 PM (AGUDW)
Isn't anyone else concerned about a screen name that mixes the "tea party" with terrorism? I thought all Americans abhored terrorism, from radical Islam, the radical left and, presumably, the radical right.
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 05:26 PM (icwKQ)
Posted by: Kris Kringle at September 29, 2012 05:27 PM (ZFXqT)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 29, 2012 05:27 PM (aHR5E)
Posted by: Theresa 4 Romney/Ryan at September 29, 2012 05:28 PM (6zmHV)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 29, 2012 05:28 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 05:29 PM (icwKQ)
Maybe, but we abhor trolls even more, especially inane ones!
Posted by: Hrothgar (Dagny Aficionado ) at September 29, 2012 05:29 PM (Cnqmv)
I never heard the media accuse the tea party of any terrorist acts. Do you have a source or a link that might provide some corraborative proof of that?
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 05:30 PM (icwKQ)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 29, 2012 05:30 PM (aHR5E)
Posted by: BlackBlackOrchidMissesDagny at September 29, 2012 05:31 PM (J6kXj)
Posted by: Kris Kringle at September 29, 2012 05:31 PM (ZFXqT)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at September 29, 2012 05:31 PM (0ugir)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 05:32 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 29, 2012 05:32 PM (aHR5E)
I've instructed my family that if I fall desperately ill before Election Day, and it comes down to a choice between urgent lifesaving measures and dragging my dying ass into a voting booth to vote against the SCOAMF, they are to get me to the booth stat.
That said, I'm trying to get reconciled to the possibility that Romney may actually lose.
And I'm increasingly okay with that. It's starting to look as though victory will be a poisoned chalice for the SCOAMF if he wins. Obama doesn't do well under severe outside pressure, and 2013 is going to be a year of the kind of pressure that'll squeeze a lump of barbecue charcoal into a diamond. His knob-polishing friends in the media will not be able to save him from it.
The economy is already at "stall speed" right now, as we speak. GDP growth is under 2%, with the population growing faster than that. The country is, on average, getting steadily poorer.
This is BEFORE all of the bad shit that's about to get uncorked in January. Consider what's on deck for just two months after Election Day:
(a) A whole raft of new Obamanomic regulatory nonsense comes into play.
(b) A metric shit-ton of tax cuts abruptly expire.
(c) Sequestration will cause mass defense industry layoffs.
(d) Energy and food are about to have double-digit price increases.
(e) Europe is economically collapsing in on itself.
(f) The Chinese "soft landing" is turning out to be the sort of landing that drives the landing gear up through the wing spar.
(g) War drums everywhere, never good for business confidence.
Absent anything else, I think we will have a global recession next year that is going to dwarf anything that's come before. Worse than the 2008-09 one. And it will hurt horribly here in the States especially, thanks to the last four years of bassackwards policymaking.
The clamor for Obama to DO something is going to be intense. What's he going to do? My guess is that he's going to spend half his time golfing and the other half jetting off to Marbella with the Mooch. Once he's secured re-election, his "place in history" is assured, his colossal ego will be salved, and he won't have to worry about the actual detail work that he finds so visibly irritating and tedious.
I can deal with an absentee President whose party end up taking the heat for his failings. Had a look at the 2014 Senate map? Democrats on defense across the board. If the economy spends two more years in dire trouble and Obama can't and won't fix it, the liberals will be slaughtered in the midterms as his proxy, the GOP will get all of Congress, and the administration's final two years will be mostly ineffectual.
There are downsides to this scenario. Court nominations, for one. And a whole lot of people who I know and love, and who you know and love, are going to get reamed economically. But if that's what America wants, that's what America will get.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2012 05:32 PM (ymG7s)
You probably don't speak for the group that you only "maybe" abhor violence, and you certainly don't abhor so-called "trolls" (I assume that means those who may disagree with your political views on the blog) more than terrorism. I can't, as a patriotic American, believe that.
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 05:32 PM (icwKQ)
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 09:30 PM (icwKQ)
Check with Janet Napolitano.....
Posted by: Tami at September 29, 2012 05:33 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: ChrisValentine at September 29, 2012 05:33 PM (ht3c8)
Posted by: Kris Kringle at September 29, 2012 05:33 PM (ZFXqT)
There was a reason Rudolph kicked him ....
Posted by: Waterhouse at September 29, 2012 05:33 PM (05irm)
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 09:30 PM (icwKQ)
Google is usually cited as your friend, but in your case, I think Google would prove to be your enemy!
Posted by: Hrothgar (Dagny Aficionado ) at September 29, 2012 05:33 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Natasha at September 29, 2012 05:33 PM (pyYXJ)
Posted by: Cicero at September 29, 2012 05:33 PM (QTFqg)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at September 29, 2012 05:34 PM (0ugir)
Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2012 05:34 PM (sdi6R)
You are correct, it is utterly appalling the the media has chosen to label Tea Party members as akin to terrorists, thus forcing those with wit to mock such a position in an amusing, though admittedly obvious manner.
Now, will someone hold my coat whilst I change boots? I'm not getting cretin muck on a good pair.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at September 29, 2012 05:34 PM (Gk3SS)
I presumed that this was a blog where the free exchange of ideas might take place, among reasoned, educated adults. I asked about a screen name that merged the tea party with terrorism, and just asked that person if he or she advocated terrorist violence. Ididn't think it would be out of bounds to inquire.
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 09:20 PM (icwKQ)
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BS. You are a child of unknown chronological age that came here for some verbal jousting and nothing more. You have zero intention of learning anything, considering another point of view, or adding anything interesting or funny to the discussion.
Posted by: jc at September 29, 2012 05:34 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: ChrisValentine at September 29, 2012 05:34 PM (ht3c8)
Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at September 29, 2012 05:34 PM (lBpVP)
Posted by: fluffy at September 29, 2012 05:35 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Meremortal at September 29, 2012 05:35 PM (jTKU5)
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 05:36 PM (icwKQ)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 29, 2012 05:37 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at September 29, 2012 05:37 PM (0ugir)
1. boycott the media. Pick one and stop paying them any attention and if possible make your refusal known to them and their advertisers.
(go for NBC. they are the most fragile, most partisan and most in the red)
2. Contribute to or instigate a lawsuit against one or more media outlets over their Payment In Kind donations to the Democrats.
3. Start or contribute to those blogs and online news outlets that are either conservative leaning or definitively neutral.
They are desperate and have decided that electing Obama is worth taking monetary losses. Let's make them regret that decision.
Posted by: Jcw46 at September 29, 2012 05:37 PM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 05:37 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at September 29, 2012 05:37 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: DaveA at September 29, 2012 05:37 PM (wcjj2)
Posted by: Cicero at September 29, 2012 05:38 PM (QTFqg)
Posted by: joncelli at September 29, 2012 05:38 PM (CWlPF)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at September 29, 2012 05:39 PM (0ugir)
Thanks! *stompystompystompystompy*
I swear, if we don't get better trolls, I'm going to figure out a way to change my hash and start trolling again. It does go to prove that if conservatives want something done right, we have to do it ourselves.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at September 29, 2012 05:39 PM (Gk3SS)
No one has posted a link relating to the media's accusation of tea party being linked to terrorism. Is everybody on this blog okay with someone mixing the two? It's almost as if the media was correct. There isn't any comment about it from the people here, which seems like tacit approval.
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 05:39 PM (icwKQ)
Where do we start? I don't watch live TV, so I can't boycott.
Should I point and laugh at my neighbor's peacock?
Posted by: fluffy at September 29, 2012 05:40 PM (z9HTb)
I'm thinking more like this:
http://www.hps.cam.ac.uk/whipple/images/collections/professor.jpg
Posted by: Waterhouse at September 29, 2012 05:40 PM (05irm)
*Homer voice*
BORRRRRR-ING.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking Yuengling at September 29, 2012 05:40 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 29, 2012 05:40 PM (aHR5E)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 05:40 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at September 29, 2012 05:42 PM (lBpVP)
Do your own search, Sonny. It's out there.
Posted by: fluffy at September 29, 2012 05:42 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: chemjeff-husker at September 29, 2012 05:42 PM (d/5qf)
It's not just violence, it's the pairing of the tea party and violence. If the media is mistaken, even libelously mistaken, then why would someone from the tea party faction absorb that libelous charge. It seems like you would be playing into their hands, and the silence from the blog seems to approve which, if the media actually did such a thing, would vindicate the charge.
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 05:43 PM (icwKQ)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 05:43 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: chemjeff-husker at September 29, 2012 05:43 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at September 29, 2012 05:44 PM (Gk3SS)
Truman, I am so sorry about your grandma's passing, but I rejoice with you that she is in glory, having the time of her eternal life!! My heart goes out to you , dear.
As for the MGM issue, I wish it could be an easy fix, such as more conservatives going into journalism , but the problem is getting them hired. None of the current dinosaur news changers will hire someone who doesn't toe the party line.
I guess we are left with blogs, getting the truth out there.
So thank you Ace and cobloggers. You are doing yeoman's work speak the truth.
Posted by: moki at September 29, 2012 05:44 PM (4fpov)
Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2012 05:44 PM (5H6zj)
I know there is absolutely no nutritional content whatsoever in a little can of Armour Vienna Sausages, but man, I love 'em!
Troll-boy is just trying to show us rubes how smart he are by using those 25-cent words when a 5-cent word will do just fine.
Posted by: Theresa 4 Romney/Ryan at September 29, 2012 05:44 PM (6zmHV)
You're fucked, troll. Cash in your chips, tell XLRawd you done your best, and try again another day.
Posted by: comatus at September 29, 2012 05:44 PM (qaVK+)
Run fer it, Cletus! He's on to us.
Posted by: fluffy at September 29, 2012 05:44 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 29, 2012 05:45 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: toby928© polluting your thread with football at September 29, 2012 05:45 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at September 29, 2012 05:46 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: dananjcon at September 29, 2012 05:46 PM (Dpd/F)
Posted by: TD at September 29, 2012 05:46 PM (+uFux)
Romney and Ryan are very good on the stump. Have an organized campaign and very enthusiastic volunteers. Their mistake, and it is one that needs to be addressed soon, is they are not treating the media as it should be treated, as an Obama super pac.
Posted by: Evan Maughan at September 29, 2012 05:46 PM (OK3ve)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 05:47 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 05:47 PM (icwKQ)
Posted by: Kris Kringle at September 29, 2012 05:47 PM (Vdd8W)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at September 29, 2012 05:47 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 29, 2012 05:47 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2012 05:48 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: derit at September 29, 2012 05:49 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 05:49 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at September 29, 2012 05:49 PM (PH+2B)
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 09:47 PM (icwKQ)
**
We appreciate your concern.
Posted by: dananjcon at September 29, 2012 05:49 PM (Dpd/F)
Whose hash is Henry wearing? Average Joe's??
Posted by: Katy Beth at September 29, 2012 05:49 PM (4Hrnb)
Posted by: Waterhouse at September 29, 2012 05:50 PM (05irm)
Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at September 29, 2012 09:42 PM (lBpVP)
My husband recorded his grandfather's stories. He was quite a guy....alll Irish. Would break into an Irish brogue if it helped whatever story or joke he was telling, which was every time he opened his mouth.
An officer in WWI with lots of good stories. He was almost court martialed for allowing his men to drink beer in a bar in Germany. He managed to convince the higher ups that no German would poison beer.
Anyway, my husband's stupid brother took the tape and recorded music over it. I thought my husband was going to kill him.
Posted by: Tami at September 29, 2012 05:50 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: lizardbrain at September 29, 2012 05:50 PM (fWdId)
Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at September 29, 2012 05:51 PM (9HhTH)
Posted by: Laura Castellano at September 29, 2012 05:51 PM (luhCM)
Here: http://tinyurl.com/3qy9ght and Here: http://tinyurl.com/8vhl4xk and Here: http://tinyurl.com/7gsfs79 and finally if that isn't enough, here's the googly search for tea party terrorists Here: http://tinyurl.com/9zqhdhy
(I'm sorry. I'm like the little old lady that feeds all the green-crapping geese and gets arrested for it.)
Posted by: Jcw46 at September 29, 2012 05:51 PM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at September 29, 2012 05:51 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Adam at September 29, 2012 05:52 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Katy Beth at September 29, 2012 05:52 PM (4Hrnb)
Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at September 29, 2012 05:52 PM (LyMa3)
My gosh, someone's nic on a web blog that is immersed in snark, satire and smart military commentary among people who all call themselves "morons", has connected their name to the TEA Party and "terrorism", after the Secretary of Homeland Security initimated as much some time ago.
Geez, it looks like even humor and sarcasm are double-plus ungood in the new speech protocols of the Obama Regime.
Thud!
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes....FREE KRATOS! at September 29, 2012 05:52 PM (sJTmU)
I never said the tea party was a terrorist group. I'm not concerned with OWS protesters -- they may be terrorists or not. Why is this group not concerned with a name that links the two? It can't be for humor, because I think, from what I've read, the group as a whole generally abhors terrorism. The tea party has shown no militancy that I have ever seen, in the mass media or online. So where does this "joke" get its reference?
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 05:52 PM (icwKQ)
You can afford better polish now. And I'm sure some moron will volunteer to apply it.
Posted by: DaveA at September 29, 2012 05:52 PM (wcjj2)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 29, 2012 05:53 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at September 29, 2012 05:53 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: jakemán at September 29, 2012 05:53 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: Ammo Dump at September 29, 2012 05:53 PM (YYyqq)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 29, 2012 05:53 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at September 29, 2012 05:54 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 05:55 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at September 29, 2012 05:55 PM (0ugir)
Posted by: rickl who thinks terrorism is OK at September 29, 2012 05:55 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: toby928© polluting your thread with football at September 29, 2012 05:56 PM (QupBk)
I've said this before, I'll say it again! You morons and moronettes are the funniest people on this whole f*ckin' planet! 
Posted by: Theresa 4 Romney/Ryan at September 29, 2012 05:56 PM (6zmHV)
Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at September 29, 2012 05:56 PM (qtKqj)
Posted by: Terrorists hate being laughed at at September 29, 2012 05:57 PM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: jakemán who sees links between H. Kringle and Other Axleturfing Douches at September 29, 2012 05:57 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 09:52 PM (icwKQ)
My gawd, you are stupid. I told you earlier, for reference see Janet Napolitano. She referred to Tea Partiers as terrorist. MWR is snarking her.
I want my subscription money back. The trolls here suck.
Posted by: Tami at September 29, 2012 05:57 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 05:58 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at September 29, 2012 05:58 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Terroristic Trolls are People Too. Signed Concerned Henry, Esq. at September 29, 2012 05:59 PM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: BlackBlackOrchidMissesDagny at September 29, 2012 06:00 PM (J6kXj)
In response to Reader C.J. Burch writes....FREE KRATOS!: I have to say, there is a fair amount of snarkiness - not much satire, though. Just the opposite. All of the threads, except for the football ones, are dead serious and incisive. This is not The Onion, which is actual satire and parody. This is serious. Look at the condolences to your peer, Truman - they are serious, meaningful and touching. It's snarky, but it's also hostile toward me when I have been respectful and fair-minded. Hostility and accusations of fellatio and bestiality demeans an otherwise thoughtful group.
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 06:00 PM (icwKQ)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 06:00 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at September 29, 2012 06:00 PM (lBpVP)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 29, 2012 06:00 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 06:02 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at September 29, 2012 10:00 PM (lBpVP)
Some stupid Bob Dylan shit.
Posted by: Tami at September 29, 2012 06:02 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at September 29, 2012 06:03 PM (lBpVP)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at September 29, 2012 06:03 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: We Heil in his face at September 29, 2012 06:03 PM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: jakemán who sees links between H. Kringle and Other Axleturfing Douches at September 29, 2012 06:03 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2012 06:04 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 29, 2012 06:04 PM (I2LwF)
Is that what the tea-terrorist is doing? Stooping to the level of militant feminists and ignorant African Americans -- ie., "taking back" the terrorist moniker. I thought it was for humor. The "slut" and "n-word" is not for humor. I think I see why they might be relatable, but I don't think that's a fair analogy, really. I do see your point, though.
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 06:05 PM (icwKQ)
To quote Larry King: "Why do you care".
Posted by: Larry King; I'm not dead yet. at September 29, 2012 06:06 PM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 06:06 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: Theresa 4 Romney/Ryan at September 29, 2012 06:06 PM (6zmHV)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at September 29, 2012 10:06 PM
Or just go drinking with it.
Posted by: Tami at September 29, 2012 06:07 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b][/u] at September 29, 2012 06:08 PM (CA2NO)
Posted by: chemjeff-husker at September 29, 2012 06:09 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: jakemán who sees links between H. Kringle and Other Axleturfing Douches at September 29, 2012 06:09 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at September 29, 2012 06:09 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: comatus at September 29, 2012 06:09 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2012 06:10 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Katy Beth at September 29, 2012 06:11 PM (4Hrnb)
Posted by: Tommy V at September 29, 2012 06:11 PM (iJ5jJ)
Posted by: toby928© polluting your thread with football at September 29, 2012 06:12 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: comatus at September 29, 2012 10:09 PM (qaVK+)
You know, as I was hitting 'post' I thought, 'Wait....maybe what MWR meant by 'free form performance art troll gathering.'....was drinking.
Posted by: Tami at September 29, 2012 06:12 PM (X6akg)
No, thunderbarb - it wasn't just the "nik" -- it was the homosexual and bestiality references, the shouts to go away, the general mocking, and so forth. Is it done here because the left-wing blogs do it, too? Do you think it makes the lefties more or less attractive to outsiders? Is it funny when they do it? It seems kind of infantile to me, whichever side one is on.
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 06:12 PM (icwKQ)
Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at September 29, 2012 06:13 PM (lBpVP)
Posted by: chemjeff-husker at September 29, 2012 06:13 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: osu at September 29, 2012 06:13 PM (zka2B)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at September 29, 2012 06:13 PM (Dnbau)
http://bit.ly/QCrmIE
they can terrorize me in the sack any day
Posted by: chemjeff-husker at September 29, 2012 06:14 PM (d/5qf)
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 06:14 PM (icwKQ)
Posted by: toby928© polluting your thread with football at September 29, 2012 06:14 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Katy Beth at September 29, 2012 06:16 PM (4Hrnb)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at September 29, 2012 06:19 PM (Dnbau)
Nobody here needs an intervention!
We don't need a runty ass punk who thinks he's Matt Damon from Good Will Hunting showing the guy in the bar what fore!
In other words go peddle your shit elsewhere, maybe go bother Protein Wisdom they would probably appreciate your ability to churn out a lot of words that add up to a big nothing burger of generic tripe!
Scram!!
Posted by: General Woundwort at September 29, 2012 06:19 PM (DWgdc)
Henry is a troll. He often posts as Rupert Pupkin, Esq.
Posted by: Tami at September 29, 2012 06:20 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at September 29, 2012 06:20 PM (lBpVP)
Science is never settled.
Maybe when the Universe experience the final heat death of entropy will science be "settled".
Maybe.
Posted by: Jcw46 at September 29, 2012 06:23 PM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at September 29, 2012 06:24 PM (Dnbau)
I monitor this blog for right-wing hate and racism directed against our beloved President, Barack Obama, whose multiracial wisdom America needs right now, and who I and everyone I know support completely.
I try to warn you about the evils of the Brattleboro Republican Women's Club, who are all Sarah Palin-worshipping sluts.
I try to let you know about the important work done at the Brattleboro Womens' Free Clinic, and the Brattleboro Unitarian Universalist Church, and the Brattleboro Social Justice Coalition.
But I have not convinced any of you to let go of your racist hate for our President. We still live in a world where a short man in an Ewok costume has sex with celebrities' garbage. Therefore President Obama will have to use harsher measures with you in the next four years.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at September 29, 2012 06:26 PM (+PoXK)
And as for Rupert Pupkin, he has a website too, and it looks like he works in some crappy video store and loves really bad B movies. His nik is after a Robert DeNiro character
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at September 29, 2012 10:24 PM (Dnbau)
If they're two people, they share the same hash.....maybe they're lovers.
Posted by: Tami at September 29, 2012 06:26 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at September 29, 2012 06:26 PM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Jcw46 at September 29, 2012 06:27 PM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: toby928© polluting your thread with football at September 29, 2012 06:27 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 29, 2012 06:27 PM (ZdHrP)
Posted by: pawn at September 29, 2012 06:28 PM (iMsF6)
Posted by: jakemán who sees links between H. Kringle and Other Axleturfing Douches at September 29, 2012 06:30 PM (96M6e)
because there is a Henry Krinkle who is apparently a musician in Houston
who has a website. His Lennon references made me think he was posting
under a real name and not a nik.
And as for Rupert Pupkin, he has a website too, and it looks like he
works in some crappy video store and loves really bad B movies. His
nik is after a Robert DeNiro character
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at September 29, 2012 10:24 PM (Dnbau)
If they're two people, they share the same hash.....maybe they're lovers.
Posted by: Tami at September 29, 2012 10:26 PM (X6akg)................Honestly, do you think I would get on any blog and use my real name. Does anyone use their real name? I just was wondering if the soft touch would yield the same results. And it does, of course. Please, don't harass the video store guy or the Houston musician, YPLOCHC. You Pathetic Load Of Communal Horse Cum. They are both DeNiro characters. I would think that the brainiacs on the list could have put that together without the "hash" print. But, of course, your intellect is more limited than your imagination. Henry Krinkle was Travis Bickle's pseudonym (oh, for General Woundwort, that means "alias") to the secret service in Taxi Driver. See -- they're both DeNiro characters. You know who he is, don't you, YPLOCHC. Has NOBODY seen Taxi Driver? c'mon. I mean, I know it's not Atlas Shrugged or Obama's America or some other useless tripe, but it was worth seeing on some level or another. Anyway, peace-out fucktards. And, again, thank you for your efforts -- pawltry and insignificant as they are from this despicable little glory hole of political "discourse" -- for giving America four more years AND the muthafukin Senate. Bitchiiiiiizzzzz. You can all rest assured you can see his face, and his family's, with absolutely no possibility that you can ride up to his house in a mob and lynch him, lahk in th' good ol' days when whon of them nigras got uppity.
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 06:48 PM (icwKQ)
Posted by: JParker at September 29, 2012 06:53 PM (8HhF2)
Yes, yes, I know he's a generation's most prominent Man of Letters.
It's just that it's, well...your generation.
I just can't think of him or his characters as that important.
Now that you've found the consistency you've sought for, are you better?
Posted by: comatus at September 29, 2012 06:54 PM (qaVK+)
Yeah, your generation is, what, "300"? "Passion of the Christ?" "Hangover?" Artistic achievement knows no generational limitation, Cum-a-tush. Netflix a copy of Citizen Kane, made way before my time, then get back to me about generational limitations.
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 07:00 PM (icwKQ)
And I don't think a college drop-out (DeNiro) who took up acting could be called a "man of letters" - I could be wrong, of course, but I think you need things like B.A or M.A. or PhD. after your name to qualify. just sayin.
Posted by: Henry Krinkle at September 29, 2012 07:02 PM (icwKQ)
Posted by: hurry12013, whose life doesn't revolve around the"entertainment" industry at September 29, 2012 07:11 PM (Gmp2Z)
Posted by: Choom Lord Soetoro at September 29, 2012 07:49 PM (riVhr)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at September 29, 2012 08:15 PM (vahvH)
Posted by: PJ at September 29, 2012 08:46 PM (DQHjw)
The 40% who trust the media, who are they? We call them ... women. White women make up about, oh 90% of the media audience. Just watch morning news, you have to be gay or female to endure it (says the vet of early morning doctor appointments -- always on in the lobby). Bias is as feminine as the View meets the Talk. Anyone familiar with women knows at least 40% want a pretty lie rather than the ugly truth.
No, Romney and McCain did not go from pit-bull against Republicans to Mr. Bill against Obama. White women just (to a large extent) won't tolerate criticism of their dreamboat boyfriend. Period. Neither Romney nor McCain was ever going to get (nor will any Republican get) significant amount of non-White votes because Dems are the anti-White guy, AA, Civil Rights (but not for White guys) party. So Republicans start from White guys "plus" whatever White female votes they can scrounge up.
Newt Gingrich = two female votes, his (current) wife and mother. That's it. I love the pitbull approach, I'm a guy, but I'm already sold. White women WANT the lies, like the twenty plus weeks the Fifty Shades of Bondage pr0n on the NYT Bestseller list proved. Or Twilight.
Very few White women are interested in the truth about Libya: it was a terrorist attack, likely designed to blind the US CIA station there for an upcoming attack, Obama's hug-a-Muslim-Brother-Terrorist policy has failed, AQ is on the resurgence, we are going to get hit, hard, here at home, and we will have to submit totally to Islam or kill a great deal of Muslims abroad (and kick out many at home) at great cost in blood and treasure. When we can afford, neither.
Just like White women don't want to know the truth (nor do their beta male orbiters either) that the world economy runs on oil, not unicorn farts and rainbows, and their nice safe lives filled with convenience comes at a cost. At home AND abroad. That there is no magic speech, deal, "peace treaty" or any other Hollywood fiction that will "fix things" only a long brutal slog we likely won't see the end of. And that the choice is between bad and even worse.
AND THAT IS WHY THE MEDIA IS CORRUPT. Because a great deal of their viewership WANTS TO HEAR THE LIES. Since the truth is so ugly and depressing. The Media has lost White men, almost completely. Only coastal elite neutered male idiots and gays watch it. Yeah, rednecks are tuning into Glee for glittery fabulousness. But White women in significant numbers still EAT THAT STUFF UP like a double bill of Twilight and the Hunger Games with a Fifty Shades of Grey trailer.
Posted by: whiskey at September 29, 2012 09:35 PM (L03mw)
While Romney may not be running the best campaign if you cannot count on the MSM to tell the truth, when they constantly say everything you do is bad and everything the other guy does is good you end up running around trying to find issues with traction.
Take Libya, you give your speech and say Obama lied and then everyone turns on the TV and sees nothing! Then you try another issue, the lower revised GDP and then the MSM does not cover it, of course the campaign suffers you don't know what to do or talk about.
Posted by: bobbymike at September 29, 2012 09:58 PM (wJSZn)
this man deserves a medal.
too bad by the time that ever happens, it will be too late.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 29, 2012 10:04 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 29, 2012 10:44 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Barney F. at September 30, 2012 01:31 AM (O6u+F)
( here ---> http://minx.cc/?post=304343 )
One of the best AoSHQ threads, ever.
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...And the racist troll "Henry" is boring.
Posted by: K~Bob, department of do I have to do everything around here? at September 30, 2012 03:11 AM (VwSv/)
It ends when all GOP candidates start treating the media as Gingrich did -- Enemies." (9/29/12 9:18 p.m.)
If...,then we must ask: Why 1988? Who are the crony corporatists (owners of the media) responsible for this treason to the fourth estate. It simply can't be the "reporters" or "commentators." Someone pays their salaries. (Although every lying one of them should be fired.)
I would like to see an in-depth investigative journalism piece that looks at Islamic money and one-worlder (essentially communist, even if not specifically Chinese or Russian) money. My take is that ever since we "believed" our natural resources, especially oil, to be eternally dwindling (1970s) and sent all those quadrillions of dollars out of country, the U.S. has spiraled downwards. The apex, Obama, who was selected and elected with "outside" money - which includes those crony corporations, especially the financial ones -- is supposed to deliver the coup de gras.
I am planning that we take our country back this election. I think Romney-Ryan and Republicans, (real) Democrats, Independents, and Libertarians will do it. All of us have finally awakened to the threat. The mainstream lamestream crony corporate media will never give an inch until the treasonous "foreign-owned" individuals are voted out of every office.
(I am very suspicious of the Bushes [at the very least, Bush the Younger] doing the bidding of "those" in the Middle East, even if also with a sense of patriotism and desire to protect America. Mostly wasted lives and dollars.
It only takes a "shift in funding". No more liars funded. That will empty television and cable. Also, imagine what will happen when all those pseudo-scientists on the CAGW tit are weaned. Talk about a higher education bubble bursting!
Posted by: pyromancer76 at September 30, 2012 06:11 AM (i0aYq)
torquewrench pretty much hits the nail on the head.
The next few years will be brutal and unless the press is not confronted every day for their bias and starts reforming, a Romney win will endure the same crap that George W. Bush had to take, with the press highlighting every negative and hanging it on Romney.
They need to be explicitly called out by name and challenged.
Posted by: Mr. Peabodoy at September 30, 2012 06:33 AM (0b17P)
aka: Kurt Coleman...
Sidekick duties: Causing trouble for Obama critics
www.wnd.com/2011/06/312281/
Jun 16, 2011 ... Exhibit 2, Rikker identifies himself as Kurt Coleman ... about being responsible shutting down “GretaWire,” an Internet blog hosted by Fox News ...
Posted by: Verdad at September 30, 2012 09:40 AM (65nBk)
Posted by: Verdad at September 30, 2012 09:51 AM (65nBk)
This is a good thing. It made the media look worse than it did Romney.
The media did this precisely because Romney's statement was effective. Had it not struck home and clarified for all to see just how incompetent and dishonest president Obama is, the media would have ignored or buried it.
But it was effective, very effective, and so the media wailed and gnashed its teeth and cried out "How dare you!"
Getting that kind of a reaction from the media is a GOOD THING. It makes them react to what Romney is doing, instead of the other way around. It lets Romney define what the media is going to lie about, not the media. In short, it gets inside their OODA loop. When the media is put into this position, they will panic and act like a trapped animal, making their corruption and dishonesty all the more apparent to the American people.
The only people fooled by the media's response to Romney over Benghazi are the people who will always be fooled, the sorts of people who read Pravda in the bad old days and believed what they were told. The sort of people who continued to buy newspapers in Nazi Germany.
Posted by: Lee Reynolds at September 30, 2012 10:18 AM (rJMw2)
Posted by: Hidajunshinette at September 30, 2012 12:16 PM (20NzC)
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