January 19, 2012

Perry's Speech, Dropping Out, Endorsing Newt
— Ace

Perry's whole rationale for staying in was rolling the dice in South Carolina, and seeing if the other Not-Romney's had some problems which would compel giving him a second look.

Well, he seems to be getting that.

So of course it's the perfect moment to drop out.

Anyway, nice speech.

"What we need Washington, is a place that's humbler. With a government that's smaller. So our people can liver freer."

Posted by: Ace at 09:02 AM | Comments (139)
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1 i'll miss you rick........

Posted by: phoenixgirl....a voter without a candidate at January 19, 2012 09:02 AM (Ho2rs)

2 Rick Perry for Secretary of Defense.

Posted by: tasker at January 19, 2012 09:03 AM (r2PLg)

3 Wonder if this frees him up for an "open marriage"?

Posted by: dagny at January 19, 2012 09:04 AM (Ke2m6)

4 Rick Perry for TX Governor!  ..oh wait.

Posted by: dogfish at January 19, 2012 09:04 AM (NuPNl)

5 Rick Perry for President of newly seceded Texas!
(A girl can dream, can't she?)

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at January 19, 2012 09:05 AM (qgwNu)

6

Well at least Huckabee isn't going to be our candidate.

Amirite people?

Posted by: Ben at January 19, 2012 09:05 AM (wuv1c)

7 You'rerite

Posted by: dogfish at January 19, 2012 09:06 AM (NuPNl)

8 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Considering taking up drinking at January 19, 2012 09:06 AM (8y9MW)

9 Well at least Huckabee isn't going to be our candidate. Amirite people? *** We're going to be in the wilderness for awhile...

Posted by: tasker at January 19, 2012 09:07 AM (r2PLg)

10 Well at least Huckabee isn't going to be our candidate.

I think we've found our silver lining for this race.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Considering taking up drinking at January 19, 2012 09:07 AM (8y9MW)

11
It was a nice speech.

But it encapsulated his candidacy to a tee. It was generic, trite, and loaded with lots of feel-goodisms.

You can't connect with people with that kind of talk. They'll agree with you, but they want someone who connects with their daily grinds they need to do to get by.

Posted by: soothie at January 19, 2012 09:07 AM (sqkOB)

12 Too bad. He was my first choice. He just self-destructed. I really can't vote for Newt. I feel he would be destroyed in any election hopes. I   don't  have anyone I can back whole heartedly. Lucky for me my vote won't count anyway because I live in California...

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at January 19, 2012 09:07 AM (qmF3d)

13 My predictions: 1. Gingrich pulls out a win in a South Carolina squeaker. 2. Santorum condemns both "pulling out" and anything to do with squeakers.

Posted by: wooga at January 19, 2012 09:07 AM (vjyZP)

14

Sometimes it takes people a week or two to feel the full effects of reality sinking in.

When "second look" means "a jump from 2 percent to 4 percent in the polls," reality sinks in a bit harder and deeper.

Posted by: stuiec at January 19, 2012 09:07 AM (XxqFm)

15 Since this dropout and endorsement benefits Newt while not seeming to be to Perry's advantage* - should assume Newt offered Perry something major to drop out and endorse at this perfect time. *that is, why not wait 3-4 days?

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 19, 2012 09:08 AM (goitd)

16 Till the liars that make the promises run out of our money. Then we're back!!!1 ...with nothing left. Yeee Haaaa!!!

Posted by: tasker at January 19, 2012 09:08 AM (r2PLg)

17 well, that is too bad.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 19, 2012 09:08 AM (4YTRo)

18 13 wooga okay...that was funny

Posted by: phoenixgirl....a voter without a candidate at January 19, 2012 09:08 AM (Ho2rs)

19 Ace, we had a question for you this morning. We wondered if the "D" train stops at Zucotti park?

Posted by: Vic at January 19, 2012 09:08 AM (YdQQY)

20
but I'm totally with the whole "liver freer" thing

Posted by: soothie at January 19, 2012 09:08 AM (sqkOB)

21 You know who this hurts?

Idiot bloggers

Posted by: tx conservative at January 19, 2012 09:09 AM (uEVpu)

22 My predictions:
1. Gingrich pulls out a win in a South Carolina squeaker.
2. Santorum condemns both "pulling out" and anything to do with squeakers.

Posted by: wooga at January 19, 2012 01:07 PM (vjyZP)

thats funny right there

Posted by: robtr at January 19, 2012 09:09 AM (MtwBb)

23 Are "humbler" and "freer" words? Isn't it 'more humble' and 'more free'?

Posted by: lorien1973 at January 19, 2012 09:09 AM (usXZy)

24 It's going to be a long ride home.  And I expect he'll find the coyotes will be shooting back.

Posted by: Sleepy at January 19, 2012 09:09 AM (A3zgF)

25 Comrade Arthur- Actually if you look at this from a diplomacy angle-it was the "save face" window...

Posted by: tasker at January 19, 2012 09:10 AM (r2PLg)

26 This firms up my cabinet picks for the Romney administration. Rick Perry for Energy, Bolton for State, Rudy for Attorney General, Sarah for Interior, Santorum for Defense. Maybe Jindal or McConnell for VP.

Posted by: 22nd Rabid Weasel Battalion at January 19, 2012 09:10 AM (RD7QR)

27 A problem with a Gingrich Presidency is that when the phone rings at 3 in the morning, he's gonna have to sneak into the bathroom to take the call. Force of habit.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 19, 2012 09:10 AM (hiMsy)

28

Perry's whole rationale for staying in was rolling the dice in South Carolina, and seeing if the other Not-Romney's had some problems which would compel giving him a second look.

Well, he seems to be getting that.

So of course it's the perfect moment to drop out.

What the fuck Ace, you couldn't resist one last bitter pop shot on my beak, could you??

 

 

Posted by: That Chicken at January 19, 2012 09:10 AM (MPIX5)

29 "...So our people can liver freer."

Or dire?

Posted by: JoeInMD at January 19, 2012 09:10 AM (Xwgt3)

30
carried over:

can we do ads tying in the MFM with Obama?

That's actually part of the plan, I think.
===========================

Yes, part of our mission is to expose the media hacks. "Vet the vetters" as Ace once suggested.

Posted by: soothie at January 19, 2012 09:11 AM (sqkOB)

31

So, do I move to Newt Romney or Mitt Gingrich?

 

I'm told there is a difference between the two, but I don't really see it.

 

If we're going to nominate a spineless statist technocrat, why not nominate the one who has a chance of winning?

Posted by: Ben at January 19, 2012 09:11 AM (wuv1c)

32 stuiec Who is your guy again? Romney?

Posted by: tasker at January 19, 2012 09:11 AM (r2PLg)

33 23 Are "humbler" and "freer" words? Isn't it 'more humble' and 'more free'?

Posted by: lorien1973 at January 19, 2012 01:09 PM (usXZy)

Both are proper usage.

Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at January 19, 2012 09:12 AM (RD7QR)

34 Good riddance! If there's one thing Republicans don't want as President it's a military veteran and devoted family man who rose from a humble background to become a 3-term governor of the 2nd largest state with the best economics record during the worst recession in 80 years. Plus, he's also a devout Christian! The last thing we needed was someone who could unite the fiscal conservatives, the social conservatives and the defense hawks. Fuck the three-legged stool! Nope, much better to choose between Mr. Open Marriage, Mormon Yacht Boy, and Rick "God Hates Squeakhole Abuse" Santorum. Luckily Ron "The Coming Race War" Paul is still in the race.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 19, 2012 09:13 AM (QcFbt)

35 A lot of people think Mr. Bean should play the title role when the move about the Perry campaign is made. It seems more like a Rob Schneider part to me, but whatever.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 19, 2012 09:13 AM (+lsX1)

36 If we're going to nominate a spineless statist technocrat, why not nominate the one who has a chance of winning? **** Romney-right? I hate to say it-but our defense is going to get gutted... Romney was no natural interest in this area...it's weird. I would trust Gingrich more...but his chances of winning?

Posted by: tasker at January 19, 2012 09:14 AM (r2PLg)

37 Well, ace, and so ends another one of your semblances of an illusion of a mirage that Mitt was not the GOP establishment's chosen one about 4 years ago. Fall in line, etc.

Posted by: Genesis P. Orrige at January 19, 2012 09:14 AM (NE0Ln)

38 Fuck off and get back under the stairs, ergie.

Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at January 19, 2012 09:15 AM (RD7QR)

39 Seriously he was out of the race when he called us all heartless for not wanting to pay for ILLEGALS' college tuition, imao. That and being half dead at the debates...

Posted by: Nora is apparently no longer Heartless at January 19, 2012 09:15 AM (VxqUc)

40

Perry's Speech, Dropping Out, Endorsing Newt




"Et tu, Newte?"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 19, 2012 09:15 AM (3wBRE)

41 Romney ^has^ no natural interest in this area (..which in actuality is where the President has the most power)

Posted by: tasker at January 19, 2012 09:15 AM (r2PLg)

42 I would trust Gingrich more...but his chances of winning?

Posted by: tasker at January 19, 2012 01:14 PM (r2PLg)

It would be historic, we have never had a 2 time divorcee open marriage president before.

Posted by: robtr at January 19, 2012 09:15 AM (MtwBb)

43 LOL at the idea of Rick Perry being Secretary of Energy for Mitt.

He's already governor of the greatest state in the country.  A role in a Romney administration would be like managing a wal-mart in comparison.

Anyway, Perry got a lot better as time went on.  I don't know that he has what it takes on the national stage.  I just like governors with conservative records.  They seem to take the very, very worst abuse from the press (Palin, Perry, Daniels, Walker).  Especially when they make clear they want the spending to truly be cut to size.

But this is what the voters wanted.  Reality wins again.

Hopefully Newt can win, because I don't think Romney has what it takes to beat Obama.  Baggage doesn't count for much in general elections, but Romney can't even bash Obamacare OR debt spending, as he's been party to both.

Posted by: Dustin at January 19, 2012 09:16 AM (8RL8E)

44

10 Well at least Huckabee isn't going to be our candidate.

I think we've found our silver lining for this race.


Thank GOD in Heaven.

If anything could drive me into the ranks of the Paultards, that would have been it.

Posted by: imp at January 19, 2012 09:16 AM (UaxA0)

45 I do predict these charges will help Newt in the short-term. A bit of a Herman Cain effect. But a week or two of late-night jokes and the damage will be serious.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 19, 2012 09:16 AM (QcFbt)

46 Santorum for Defense

He seems well qualified to lead our vital effort to seek and destroy sodomy.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 19, 2012 09:16 AM (+lsX1)

47 It would be historic, we have never had a 2 time divorcee open marriage president before. ***** damnit,LOL....gawd.

Posted by: tasker at January 19, 2012 09:17 AM (r2PLg)

48

>>>Romney-right?

I think so. I hate Romney, but I don't think I can vote for Gingrich.

No only does he have a ton of baggage, but he's the same as Romney in so many ways.

If Gingrich was Mr.Conservative with his baggage, I would take the risk. I am willing to go down with the ship if it's for a just cause.

 

At this point it's going to be a technocrat v. Obama, so I'll probably end up siding with the one who can win.

Posted by: Ben at January 19, 2012 09:18 AM (wuv1c)

49 Does this mean its Perry's turn -- next time?

Posted by: Jean at January 19, 2012 09:18 AM (WkuV6)

50

If we're going to nominate a spineless statist technocrat, why not nominate the one who has a chance of winning?


The kook or the creep?  Not really a tough choice, when you put it that way. 

Voting for Romney, though!  Ugh . . .

I get woozy at the thought .




Posted by: imp at January 19, 2012 09:19 AM (UaxA0)

51 @39 What you say is so evidently true I fail to understand how folks can argue otherwise with a straight face. Not happy about how Perry flamed out, but he stepped on his dick one too many times.

Posted by: Dave at January 19, 2012 09:19 AM (Xm1aB)

52 As bad as I hate to admit it, Perry did not shine in this race, so getting out is the only adequate response. If this helps Romney get beat, so much the better. If I am going to have to vote for a faux conservative, I would rather it be Gingrich than Romney. At least Gingrich has moments of clarity and can be influenced by what the voters want. Also, it will be highly entertaining to see a debate between Obama and Gingrich. That is, of course, if the Republican Party does not go French and surrender before the first shot is fired.

Posted by: Harry at January 19, 2012 09:20 AM (4VRQl)

53 46 Santorum for Defense

He seems well qualified to lead our vital effort to seek and destroy sodomy.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 19, 2012 01:16 PM (+lsX1)

Yeah, good point, he'd be calling for Afghanistan to be nuked. Maybe Cheney's Warcock would come back for a return engagement at Defense.

Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at January 19, 2012 09:21 AM (RD7QR)

54 At this point it's going to be a technocrat v. Obama, so I'll probably end up siding with the one who can win. ***** Yep..because even though I trust Gingrich values national security and defense more than Romney, I trust Romney more in that department than Obama.... And I think Clubber Lang is right-Gingrich can't win this ultimately-and that's something the Newt supporters never wanted to face or address. Why? ...because there never was a way to get around it. A story with sex has legs and you can re-animate it over and over agin. The Romney Cayman islands story? Boring and getting buried in this sexcapades avalanche.

Posted by: tasker at January 19, 2012 09:23 AM (r2PLg)

55

@ 16 Since this dropout and endorsement benefits Newt while not seeming to be to Perry's advantage* - should assume Newt offered Perry something major to drop out and endorse at this perfect time.

Maybe Newt figured out a way to swing some more Tardasil money his way?

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 19, 2012 09:24 AM (+inic)

56

God, this is frustrating.  I'm not buying the Romney invincibility/inevitability yet.  This race has been so volatile that I still think it would be worth it for Perry to hang around.  Gingrich looked like he was over before it even started.

Posted by: Matt at January 19, 2012 09:25 AM (90w0O)

57 In my first 100 days as President I vow to restore economic prosperity and defeat Islamic terrorism. I will do this primarily with my new campaign, "Stop Touching Other People's Buttholes. Cause, seriously people, it's really, really gross and it makes God cry. That is where poop comes from. And it's not ok if it's a lady butthole. From God's perspective, a butthole is a butthole. Does poop come out of it? If so, it's a butthole and gross and you need to stop touching it or putting any part of your body inside it. Seriously, there's poop in there. Just ... stop it, for christ's sake. Jesus, people, what is wrong with you. It's a butthole!" I'm confident America will return to greatness once you all just stop with this dirty, nasty butt-business. Thank you.

Posted by: Rick Santorum at January 19, 2012 09:26 AM (QcFbt)

58 ...and who better to lead a more humble Washington than Newt Gingrich.

Posted by: t-bird at January 19, 2012 09:27 AM (FcR7P)

59 I'm starting to think Matt Drudge is thinking he has a shot at Press Secretary in a Romney administration. Geez. A whole page full of nothing but crap, and not a bit of it new. Well, other than the parts the reporter made up.

Posted by: davidinvirginia at January 19, 2012 09:27 AM (cPJUK)

60

Humbler? Newt?!? There hasn't been a more over-inflated gas-bag hit the US since the Hindenburg.

NEWT HAD TWO AFFAIRS AND WANTED HIS WIFE TO SHARE HIM WITH HIS CURRENT HOME-WRECKER OF A WIFE.  SHE WOULD BE FIRST LADY. HOW CHARMING. BUT SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES WANT TO VOTE FOR HIM. I AM AGHAST. 

I thought the Democrats were the style over substance, ends justify the means Party? Newt. A disaster of a human being.

 

Posted by: Oh, please not Newt at January 19, 2012 09:28 AM (BNlV7)

61 Sort of interesting ace chooses the biggest dope & dummy for preferred nominee.

Posted by: Genesis P. Orrige at January 19, 2012 09:29 AM (NE0Ln)

62 Tasker, did you read the Cayman stories? Romney did nothing wrong. You can tell when the opposition has no real ammo, it's when they have to make up shit because they couldn't find anything real. Global Warmists wouldn't have had to get all hysterical if the facts were on their side, same with other political battles.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 19, 2012 09:30 AM (hiMsy)

63 I like cake.

Posted by: Rick Perry Withdrawal Speech at January 19, 2012 09:31 AM (u5baE)

64 @ 60  What's yer problem?  Newt's just living the AoSHQ lifestyle, except without the Ewok...

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 19, 2012 09:31 AM (+inic)

65 What a squandered opportunity.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at January 19, 2012 09:34 AM (QKKT0)

66

26 This firms up my cabinet picks for the Romney administration. Rick Perry for Energy, Bolton for State, Rudy for Attorney General, Sarah for Interior, Santorum for Defense. Maybe Jindal or McConnell for VP.

don't forget me for Attorney General...or SCOTUS

Posted by: Haley boss hogg Barber at January 19, 2012 09:34 AM (K/USr)

67 Mormon Yacht Boy

Heh.  Me likey.

Posted by: Lady in Black.....{sigh} at January 19, 2012 09:34 AM (F+Xfj)

68 Lincolntf I don't think the story is finished and I don't think his campaign is handling the issue well. It better get "done" before the general...but somehow I don't think that's going to happen. As they say-timing is everything.

Posted by: tasker at January 19, 2012 09:35 AM (r2PLg)

69 11
It was a nice speech.

But it encapsulated his candidacy to a tee. It was generic, trite, and loaded with lots of feel-goodisms.

You can't connect with people with that kind of talk. They'll agree with you, but they want someone who connects with their daily grinds they need to do to get by.

Posted by: soothie at January 19, 2012 01:07 PM (sqkOB)

I'm always amazed how two people can listen to a speech and have two different take aways.   I heard that speech in the car.  Everyone was dead silent, mostly libs/dems.   I saw it as Perry being tasked with laying out the road map going forward and I thought he did a damned good job.  He noted his was a "strategic" move.  That was and will be an important distinction going forward.

Have never been a Perry person.  Not sure who I will support but not the current occupant.  Perry's first speech and this last speech were right on target.  I know people were saying he didn't want to lose to the dynamic duo of Herman Cain and Steven Colbert but I'm sensing it was more than that.  Yeah I know some are saying he ran out of money but I'm thinking that if he wanted more money he could have gotten more money.  Again, thinking it's something more and Perry will figure prominently in the something more.

Posted by: c. up at January 19, 2012 09:36 AM (oZfic)

70

Eh, just because he drops out now doesn't mean he can't come back again in 2016.

 

(It worked for Mitt...)

Posted by: Warthog at January 19, 2012 09:36 AM (WDySP)

71 The Lincoln bedroom would make an awesome "party" room. Get a big old waterbed in there. Maybe build a secret room with some glory holes. Handicapped access for when Newt gets fatter in his second term. It's gonna be so fuckin' classy!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 19, 2012 09:37 AM (+lsX1)

72

P.S. You Newt-lovers. Where is your evidence of Newt's ability to debate one-on-one? He caves every and any time he is challenged by Romney. He speaks in platitudes. He is grandiose. He overstates. He is all about himself. He would also be destroyed by the press who would tear such a hole in his candidacy (affairs while punishing Clinton for doing the same; ethics violations; supporting global warming; divorcing wives while they were sick; criticizing Freddie/Fannie while taking the money they received in ruining the housing market -nay, the ENTIRE market) that all your hopes and dreams of beating Obama would sink into a dark abyss.

Romney Represents the true conservative. Free enterprise, hard work, family-oriented, religious, successful, charitable, and trenchantly wise. Free enterprise vs. Governmental Injunctions.  This is the epic battle for market-freedom and Romney is the man to represent those who want to return to a better time. Newt is morally bankrupt and he's owned by all of the many bad decisions he made from the other side of his mouth.

Posted by: Oh, please not Newt at January 19, 2012 09:37 AM (BNlV7)

73 @65 Perhaps. I just don't see how the phrase, "Open Marriage" ever gets unsaid. That's all that the uninformed idiots, I mean swing voters, are gonna take away from all this. Newt had an open marriage. The best hope is somehow this makes Newt seem kinda cool and bad-ass or something. Studly in a fat, jowly sort of way. Remember the election will be decided by voters who will make their decision based on something they half-remember from TMZ America! Fuck, yeah!

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 19, 2012 09:38 AM (QcFbt)

74 Are "humbler" and "freer" words? Isn't it 'more humble' and 'more free'?

Posted by: lorien1973 at January 19, 2012 01:09 PM (usXZy)

Perry: "I'm a bumbler, not a humbler."

Posted by: stuiec at January 19, 2012 09:39 AM (XxqFm)

75

73Romney Represents the true conservative.

ah, hahahahahaha! Especially the true cons what loves em some big socialist government.

Posted by: Haley boss hogg Barber at January 19, 2012 09:39 AM (K/USr)

76 What are you talking about? A whole new story? How can the original story go any further except by retroactively changing the laws? The only reason the story saw the light of day was so that "Cayman Islands" and "Romney" could appear in the same headline. Lowball Hackery 101.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 19, 2012 09:40 AM (hiMsy)

77 63 I like cake.

Posted by: Rick Perry Withdrawal Speech at January 19, 2012 01:31 PM (u5baE)

And this was, in part, why Perry didn't last.  I'm not saying he didn't have issues.  His campaign wasn't great...at all.  I desperately wanted him to perform better in the debates, but he didn't.  And he stepped on his appendage just enough to get the media flapping their lips nonstop about his supposed "dumbness."  Dumbness, btw, that never applied to anything Odumbo said in the past that, had an R said it, would have been raked over the hilarity coals and spoofed on SNL umpteen times. 

I watched his campaign suspension speech.  It was heartfelt and good.  Anita standing behind him was touching.  He's an alpha male. A strong presence in a world of soft, political wimps.  The above poster, however, took what I saw and made some "Perry is dumb" comment for no reason whatsoever.  Completely unjustified and, frankly, fucking stupid.

Posted by: Lady in Black.....{sigh} at January 19, 2012 09:40 AM (F+Xfj)

78

Look, twerps, I for one am glad that Ricardo Perry is riding off into the sunset.  He was a Mexican lover and a vaccine pusher.  I'd rather my daughter die of cervical cancer than to be able to opt out of an insured program to provide a preventative vaccine.  I'd rather the entire nation perish than to have a guy sign a bill where the legislature overwhelmingly approved of an in-state tuition program for children of illegals, to try to use their own state's tax dollars to keep said children away from lives of crime and poverty that negatively would affect their own state.

To add insult to injurious, let's be blunt, chumps, Ricardo was a dunce.

As a Dittohead I take a mans' education real serious and one imperative criteria of me is that my candidate did good in school and their able to match wits with the Democrat on difficulty issues.  Hell, punks, Dr. Rush Limbaugh was the smartest true conservative in his basketweaving class at Southeast Missouri State, and once I found out that Perry didn't do good in school he was dead to my eye.

Then you have to look at Ricardo's so-called resume.  Sorry, pukes, but the U.S. Air Force, the state legislature, a statewide agency and then governor for 11 years of the left-wing State of Taxes don't hold mustard for true and pure conservative heroes, like me.

I didn't like Ricardo's walk.  I didn't like Ricardo's talk.  I didn't like his wife.  I didn't like his kids.  Most of all I didn't like how I had to question my own manhood after my own wife and daughter started going on and on about how good looking the man is. 

Lastly, punks, when St. Sarah decided not to run I made a pact with God to vote for Obama, to clear the field for the Sarah in 2016.

Palin-Angle-O'Donnell, '16.

Posted by: Totally Irrational Political Malcontent at January 19, 2012 09:41 AM (f8XyF)

79 I just don't see how the phrase, "Open Marriage" ever gets unsaid.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 19, 2012 01:38 PM (QcFbt)

Well, when it's said by the woman who wrecked Newt's first marriage, it's pretty meaningless.  "How DARE you cheat on me?  I'M the only slut you're allowed to cheat on a wife with!!!"

Posted by: stuiec at January 19, 2012 09:41 AM (XxqFm)

80 Ace is a sad Panda...

Posted by: The forgotten man at January 19, 2012 09:42 AM (W7JEz)

81 There are no "Newt lovers" here. There are about 5 or 10 nobody but Mutt's and 95% of the rest are anybody but Mutt. Then a sprinkling of legalize pot crazy uncles.

Posted by: Vic at January 19, 2012 09:42 AM (YdQQY)

82 He noted his was a "strategic" move.

Reminds me of when my oldest son crashed his bike in front of his friends and then claimed he "meant to do it" while blood was pouring out of his elbow. Pretty much the same strategery.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 19, 2012 09:42 AM (+lsX1)

83 Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 19, 2012 01:37 PM (+lsX1)

Gristle, I've been wondering how come you dropped the "Kennedy's" from your handle. 

Posted by: Lady in Black.....{sigh} at January 19, 2012 09:43 AM (F+Xfj)

84 Hey hey hey we are smarter than the average bear!  You can think you've hidden your money from us by off shoring it but, surprise, we're working on that.  Soon you'll be given an amnesty period to bring it back home and after that, well after that is when we have fun fun fun!

Posted by: I R S at January 19, 2012 09:43 AM (oZfic)

85 Sorry Rick, I love you but Newt sucks.

Posted by: logprof at January 19, 2012 09:43 AM (CE2wR)

86

The best hope is somehow this makes Newt seem kinda cool and bad-ass or something. Studly in a fat, jowly sort of way.

It's been done before.

Posted by: Chris Christie at January 19, 2012 09:44 AM (90w0O)

87 Well, when it's said by the woman who wrecked Newt's first marriage, it's pretty meaningless. "How DARE you cheat on me? I'M the only slut you're allowed to cheat on a wife with!!!"

From what I've heard, Newt didn't start screwing Wife #2 till divorce proceedings were already in the works.  It might technically be cheating, but that's questionable.

Regardless, this certainly doesn't help his already weak prospects with female voters.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 19, 2012 09:45 AM (SY2Kh)

88 Drudge made the story Newt not Romney. The MSM were going to take them both down at once.

Posted by: dagny at January 19, 2012 09:46 AM (Ke2m6)

89 But this is what the voters wanted.  Reality wins again.

We don't even freekin' know that, actually. Well, the self-anointed pundits do, and of course they are superior to all of us....

What we have had is two primaries, one of which was so badly mangled procedure-wise that Santorum won (if not RuPaul). And, if you care to think they're really important, in which case I nominate you for the "Poppin' Fresh" Paleface Political Geek Award, there have been a bunch of half-ass polls.

Shit, we have been royally screwed by the Republicans. And the bastards don't even feel the need to give us a kiss first.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2012 09:47 AM (tkd/a)

90 The evil plan is working.

Posted by: paul bot? at January 19, 2012 09:47 AM (oZfic)

91 Lincolntf Has Romney released his tax records yet? There was a stupid internet poll (I know,I know)-but 77% answered that the public has a right to know. Plus did you see the second Cayman Islands story? The one that talks more about the carve outs Romney did? Until Romney releases his tax records all kinds of things will be insinuated-it's that simple. You can say it's "unfair" but life and the press -is not fair.

Posted by: tasker at January 19, 2012 09:48 AM (r2PLg)

92

I thought the Democrats were the style over substance, ends justify the means Party? Newt. A disaster of a human being.

Posted by: Oh, please not Newt at January 19, 2012 01:28 PM (BNlV7)

 

Well, Rush says he thinks OBlahBLah might be a virgin, so I guess it is the sinner against the Messiah so I guess those SoCons will have to go with the virgin.

Bye USA its been a good ride!

Posted by: Concealed Kerry or subMitt at January 19, 2012 09:49 AM (vXqv3)

93 Posted by: Vic at January 19, 2012 01:42 PM

Don't forget the few who are conditioned to shout "CUDA!!!" in unison every time the partial-term former governor of Alaska makes some new lamebrained statement.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2012 09:50 AM (tkd/a)

94 Rush is talking about clearing the decks for BO to win.  The decks are really getting cleared.  I mean he like to run unopposed, is that possible.  Is it possible that the GOP will do such an excellent job of "vetting" their candidates that they will have to start again?  or put up no opponent?

Posted by: c. up at January 19, 2012 09:50 AM (oZfic)

95 Gristle, I've been wondering how come you dropped the "Kennedy's" from your handle.

Started as a Teddy-centric sock puppet, now I'm more of an equal-opportunity heckler.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 19, 2012 09:50 AM (+lsX1)

96 @80 I doubt that. The idiot swing voters will never look past the "Open Marriage" bit. And TMZ and the Daily Show and left-wing media aren't gonna provide any context. They don't do that for Republicans. So, yeah, the 1/3rd of the voters who are Repubs might read some context. The other 2/3rd of the country (1/3rd Dem, 1/3rd zombie) won't ever even hear that part. Nobody is gonna ruin a good open marriage joke by adding, oh, but it was a bitter ex-wife. We'll see what a couple weeks of open marriage jokes do. Herman Cain looked like he might survive his BJs-for-jobs story for a couple days.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 19, 2012 09:51 AM (QcFbt)

97 82 There are no "Newt lovers" here. There are about 5 or 10 nobody but Mutt's and 95% of the rest are anybody but Mutt. Then a sprinkling of legalize pot crazy uncles.

Well, at least I'm not nuts enough to vote for Ron Paul a second time.

I think I'll just talk to the aliens living in my computer speakers again . . .

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at January 19, 2012 09:51 AM (QQAJP)

98 Regardless, this certainly doesn't help his already weak prospects with female voters.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 19, 2012 01:45 PM (SY2Kh)

 

Really? So was Newt cheating with himself, or did he have a willing female accomplise?

Did Obama ever have any girlfriends, boyfriends or is he as Rush says a virgin?

Are you one of those neaderthalls that thinks women don't like sex?

Posted by: Concealed Kerry or subMitt at January 19, 2012 09:53 AM (vXqv3)

99 It's been done before. Posted by: Chris Christie at January 19, 2012 01:44 PM (90w0O) **** When you can find it....

Posted by: Donut holes -they're for breakfast! at January 19, 2012 09:54 AM (r2PLg)

100 95Rush is talking about clearing the decks for BO to win. The decks are really getting cleared. I mean he like to run unopposed, is that possible. Is it possible that the GOP will do such an excellent job of "vetting" their candidates that they will have to start again? or put up no opponent?

Posted by: c. up at January 19, 2012 01:50 PM (oZfic)

 

Only won person has been fully and completely vetted, maybe the Establishment will come begging sarah like they did Rick?

 

Oh, I guess not they will be content to lose so Jeb can continue the dynasty in 16!

Posted by: Concealed Kerry or subMitt at January 19, 2012 09:55 AM (vXqv3)

101 I read a couple stories,don't know if they were the ones you mean. What is this "carving out" you're talking about? Was it illegal? Or is it just more "put scary sounding words next to Romney's name and hope for the best" garbage?
He'll eventually release his tax records, but he doesn't have to jump every time some MSM knob or an active competitor seeking an advantage tells him to.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 19, 2012 09:58 AM (Qjh0I)

102 @99 You're so right! No doubt this will help Newt with women voters. Genius strategy!

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 19, 2012 09:59 AM (QcFbt)

103 Lincoln Ya I really don't want to talk about it because it goes to the media's favorite scare tactic when it comes to Romney...you know... As to the tax records Mitt has been at this for how long now? It's surprising his campaign hasn't managed that.

Posted by: tasker at January 19, 2012 10:02 AM (r2PLg)

104

ABC.com article:

"Gingrich divorced his first wife, Jackie, as she was being treated for cancer [a lie, but who expects facts from the MSM?]. His relationship with Marianne began while he was still married to Jackie but in divorce proceedings, Marianne said."

Posted by: stuiec at January 19, 2012 10:04 AM (XxqFm)

105 Plus -it's an issue-he paid a tax rate of 15% while he is worth $250 million-and he won't put out his tax records.

Posted by: tasker at January 19, 2012 10:04 AM (r2PLg)

106 Differences between Gingrich and Romney are stark. Gingrich was a disgraced Congressman forced to give up his position as Speaker because of ethics. Romney was a successful Governor who had no ethical charges against him. Gingrich is a Washington insider who denies he was a lobbyist while lying about how much money he got from Fannie Mae and what he did for them, Romney is a Washington outsider whose career has been more businessman than politician. Gingrich assailed Ryans plan. Romney agreed that it was reasonable but that he had his own plan which subsequently Ryan complimented. Gingrich allied with Pelosi at the time the Republicans were fighting against economically disastrous greenhouse initiatives. Romney declined to join the Northeast Greenhouse initiative. Gingrich supported Scozzafava. Romney did not support Scozzafava. These are just a few differences of many.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 19, 2012 10:06 AM (eFnXz)

107 #105 no that is actually true. The divorce overlapped some of her treatment. What is not true is that he served divorce papers on her in the hospital.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 19, 2012 10:10 AM (eFnXz)

108 I put a LOT of $ in MY pocket, so it was still a BIG win for me, and I sabotaged the non-Romney, non-sanctioned maverick that dared challenge my buddy Rove, so I'll still have work in 2016

Posted by: Pery Campaign Consultant at January 19, 2012 10:10 AM (+FrDx)

109 So when he "puts out" his tax records, he'll have done something important?
Here's a clue as to what they'll say: He's rich from money he made in the private sector, and he gives a lot to charity.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 19, 2012 10:11 AM (Qjh0I)

110 Non-Establishment "Country-clubbers" need not apply.

Posted by: Perry Campaign Consultant at January 19, 2012 10:11 AM (+FrDx)

111 MMmmmmmmmm freer liver.

Posted by: Sgt. York at January 19, 2012 10:13 AM (gtL1p)

112 108 #105 no that is actually true. The divorce overlapped some of her treatment. What is not true is that he served divorce papers on her in the hospital.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 19, 2012 02:10 PM (eFnXz)

Benign tumor so not really "cancer".

Posted by: dagny at January 19, 2012 10:15 AM (Ke2m6)

113 108 #105 no that is actually true. The divorce overlapped some of her treatment. What is not true is that he served divorce papers on her in the hospital.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 19, 2012 02:10 PM (eFnXz)

Benign tumor so not really "cancer".

Posted by: dagny at January 19, 2012 02:15 PM (Ke2m6)

EXACTLY.  She wasn't being treated for cancer.  She wasn't dying or on the verge of death.  She isn't even on bad terms with him.

The slut second wife, on the other hand, is pissed off that she wasn't able to hang onto the prize she'd wrested from the first wife.

Posted by: stuiec at January 19, 2012 10:18 AM (XxqFm)

114

I love the fact that the slut is pissed that she was overshadowed by another slut. You'd think you'd learn that lesson in high school.

I've also seen Newt up close and, honey, if you are willing to give it up to THAT for any reason other than be drugged and horribly in debt then you have a screw loose.

Posted by: dagny at January 19, 2012 10:20 AM (Ke2m6)

115 Turns out that slut wife #2 also doesn't have MS. She is predisposed or pre-MS or something but isn't actually sick.

Posted by: dagny at January 19, 2012 10:21 AM (Ke2m6)

116 The part Marianne Gingrich isn't telling is that she left Newt in 1987--called him on his birthday, told him she was leaving, and emptied out the house in Georgia. He met Calista during the separation. (see article at NRO, the Corner, posted at 8:58 AM). So now, his marital history looks a bit different--his math teacher starts sleeping with her 16-year old student, he marries her, after about 18 SHE files for divorce, he meets Marianne before the divorce is final, Marianne walks out in 1987 and then Newt meets Calista. It may not be pretty, but its not the story of a serial philanderer a la Bill Clinton. Its the story of guy who made two bad marriages, and starting dating only after the marriages were on the rocks. It's also probably the story of someone who needs very badly to be married.

Posted by: Burke at January 19, 2012 10:22 AM (9N3G1)

117 You are correct. The tumor was benign. The wife was quoted in 1985 that Newt did come to the hospital to discuss a number of issues about the divorce. They should not use the term cancer.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 19, 2012 10:35 AM (eFnXz)

118 Well its a shame, because I suspect Perry would have been a pretty good president, but he was an awful campaigner.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2012 10:39 AM (r4wIV)

119 Wow this is the second Presidential campaign in a row where my favored candidate in the primaries dropped out before I could vote. Grrr.....

Posted by: KG at January 19, 2012 10:57 AM (D5Uha)

120

"liver freer"

My guess is Ace has been hittin' the Valu-Rite more freer, too.

Posted by: OCBill at January 19, 2012 11:00 AM (YJvVE)

121 Now I know why you all drink.

Posted by: BornLib at January 19, 2012 11:19 AM (zpNwC)

122

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 19, 2012 02:06 PM (eFnXz)

Is it hard to type with Romney's cock in your mouth?

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at January 19, 2012 11:27 AM (+YpmG)

123 If Perry wants a more "humble" Washington, he must think his endorsement will force Gingrich back to Georgia.

Posted by: Adjoran at January 19, 2012 11:27 AM (VfmLu)

124 7863I like cake.

Posted by: Rick Perry Withdrawal Speech at January 19, 2012 01:31 PM (u5baE)

And this was, in part, why Perry didn't last. I'm not saying he didn't have issues. His campaign wasn't great...at all. I desperately wanted him to perform better in the debates, but he didn't. And he stepped on his appendage just enough to get the media flapping their lips nonstop about his supposed "dumbness." Dumbness, btw, that never applied to anything Odumbo said in the past that, had an R said it, would have been raked over the hilarity coals and spoofed on SNL umpteen times. 

I watched his campaign suspension speech. It was heartfelt and good. Anita standing behind him was touching. He's an alpha male. A strong presence in a world of soft, political wimps. The above poster, however, took what I saw and made some "Perry is dumb" comment for no reason whatsoever. Completely unjustified and, frankly, fucking stupid.

Posted by: Lady in Black.....{sigh} at January 19, 2012 01:40 PM (F+Xfj)

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^This!^  +1000....every word of it.

 

Posted by: wheatie at January 19, 2012 11:33 AM (xgj/f)

125 120Wow this is the second Presidential campaign in a row where my favored candidate in the primaries dropped out before I could vote.

Grrr.....

Posted by: KG at January 19, 2012 02:57 PM (D5Uha)

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Me too. ....The vast rest of us out here in Middle Earth, we don't count. These early primaries are our designated overlords. The suckage continues.

Posted by: wheatie at January 19, 2012 11:38 AM (xgj/f)

126 I don't understand how any conservative would vote for Newt.  Newt has no family values, has a record of ethics violations, an amnesty proponent, and a friend of Pelosi.  Mitt is honest, I have never heard of him taking any money illegally, or breaking any laws.  He has a great family, gives generously to his church and others.  He is smart, valedictorian at BYU and did an MBA and Law degree from Harvard at the same time.  He gave away his inheritance and made his own fortune.  The big hits on him seem to be petty.  He put his dog on the roof of his car, oh, the horror!  He hasn't shown his income tax, he doesn't relate to the common man, so what?  I don't want some slug running the country, I want the best and the brightest.

Posted by: Calvo at January 19, 2012 11:47 AM (C1yk7)

127 I'll tell you why Newt is now the better option.  Obama may win reelection, but the base is in no mood for another round of the McCain school of pulling punches out of "sensitivity" while the media describes us as, and I quote - "A klansman who thirsts for the blood of brown babies."

-At this point Newt, Mitt, Obama don't look at all electable.  Yet someone is going to win.

-Romney regardless of VP pick is going to McCain "the base."  Actual Swing Independents while remarkably small in number, are willing to show up and vote.   They are no substitute for an energized base.

-In our current divide the guy with the energized base can beat the guy with the 1% of fickle squishes called independents, who are occasionally willing to go against the Media drumbeat.

-Better base turn out,  win or lose, will still safely increase our Senate Gains which may very well turn out to our priority constitutional defense.

-The window is quickly closing to replace Boehner and McConnell.  Anything, during or after the election will be played by the media as weakness and division.  I am not saying the replacement needs to be a hardcore TeaPartier, just some old horse that can hold the line against the dems/media without being outsmarted by democrats.

Posted by: Shiggz Newt Warp 9.9 at January 19, 2012 11:48 AM (RfvTE)

128 I don't understand how any conservative would vote for Newt.

If its Newt or Obama, I vote for Newt. Look, Romney and Newt are basically a push, they're equivalent in my mind. You can put a chart up with their strengths and weaknesses and they'd both end up in the same stinky number in the end.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2012 11:51 AM (r4wIV)

129 How do you get Mitt is like McCain?  Mitt has the strongest stand on illegals of any, McCain was an amnesty proponent, like Newt.  Romney will be great for the economy, McCain said economics was his short suit.  McCain was well past his prime, Mitt is relatively young and vigorous.

Posted by: Calvo at January 19, 2012 11:53 AM (C1yk7)

130

Mitt has the strongest stand on illegals of any,

He does!

And the weakest one too, if you like that better.

Posted by: Entropy at January 19, 2012 11:56 AM (mf67L)

131

Nope, much better to choose between Mr. Open Marriage, Mormon Yacht Boy, and Rick "God Hates Squeakhole Abuse" Santorum.

Luckily Ron "The Coming Race War" Paul is still in the race.

The race war is always coming, but never getting here, so I'ma hafta go with the swinger.

Posted by: Entropy at January 19, 2012 12:19 PM (mf67L)

132 And the weakest one too, if you like that better.

And there's the problem. While Newt seems all over the map, Romney seems totally consistent: he'll say whatever it is you want to hear.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2012 12:24 PM (r4wIV)

133 I doubt that. The idiot swing voters will never look past the "Open Marriage" bit. And TMZ and the Daily Show and left-wing media aren't gonna provide any context. They don't do that for Republicans.

The inverse of this is that all these crazy fundementalist americans are going to eat up Santorum with a spoon.

We need a Jesus candidate!

Yeah, we'll see. I don't think so.

Posted by: Entropy at January 19, 2012 12:28 PM (mf67L)

134 The idiot swing voters will never look past the "Open Marriage" bit.

I seriously doubt that this will matter one bit to anyone. If there's one thing almost every voter in America is familiar with, its a bitter ex.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2012 12:54 PM (r4wIV)

135 Nope, much better to choose between Mr. Open Marriage, Mormon Yacht Boy, and Rick "God Hates Squeakhole Abuse" Santorum.

So calling Mitt a Mormon Yacht Boy is some how a disqualification for you?  Do you hate all self made millionaires or just Mormon self-made millionaires?  I have nothing against Santorum, but Newt is a cheat.




Posted by: Calvo at January 19, 2012 01:02 PM (C1yk7)

136 "Vote Romney, the Conservative Candidate's Conservative Candidatete."

Posted by: Rick Perry at January 19, 2012 01:58 PM (7MFxV)

137 Differences between Gingrich and Romney are stark.

I agree with all that, but then there's the rest of the story. Newt was a Reagan backing super conservative congressman who was the front man for the GOP conservative takeover of congress for the first time in 40 years in 1994. He's the guy who is the absolute best in the country at articulating and teaching conservative ideas, and is absolutely devastating in a debate. He's the only candidate who takes it straight to the media and beats them at their game.

That and Romney is a big time liar who'll say any damn thing the crowd at the time wants to hear, even if he has to totally reverse himself, then lie about the reversal. He's big on government socialized medicine and will not back down on that. He's a squishy moderate Northeastern Republican.

So all those good things you say about Romney are true, and all those bad things you say about Newt are true. Its just that the reverse holds true as well; they're both obnoxious and yet qualified.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2012 05:21 PM (r4wIV)

138

Governor Perry is a good and honest man, there is no dirt on him.  If there were Rove would have found it in the last election, when he and most of the  Bushes endorsed KBH.

I hope Rick Perry is our nominee in 2016.  He was ill prepared to run because it was too soon after his back surgery a month before and the TX wildfires that threatened the state.  He is a true red conservative in all ways.  We should change the expression to true RED conservative. He was urged to run, he did it for the US, we need help but now we are stuck with Romney or Newt.  I don't think either can beat Obama. We are screwed and we let the media do it to us again.

Posted by: CarolT at January 19, 2012 07:42 PM (z4WKX)

139 Sucks.  Hope he sees fit to run again.

A bitter pill, but I guess I'll get on the Romney train now.  HAVE to beat the Scoamf.  Ugh.   The Republican stars-in-the-making (Christie, Rubio, Ryan, etc.) can't mature fast enough.

Posted by: waelse1 at January 19, 2012 10:02 PM (1M81x)

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