March 09, 2012
— Ace About replacing Tim Tebow.
A reporter -- this is an odd citation; the source is a reporter -- says this:
“This has to be exciting for the average Broncos fan. Certainly, this puts Tim Tebow’s future in doubt here in Denver and the reports that we have heard were if the Broncos were able to land Manning they would make an attempt to trade Tim Tebow. So there’s no question the Broncos are all in on Manning. They want to make him the next quarterback of the Denver Broncos,” said Miller.“If things go the way they want, Manning will be playing for the Denver Broncos and Tim Tebow will be playing elsewhere. The Broncos are determined that Peyton Manning is the man they want to be their quarterback.”
Not sure why you wouldn't keep Tebow anyway, let him get some coaching from an all-time great like Manning. That's usually the way with younger talents. They pick up some fading star to carry the load while the young QB learns from him. The Giants did that when they picked up Kurt Warner; they had him for a year, then started Eli.
Peyton Manning may have a Super Bowl left in him, but are the Broncos on the cusp of being a Super Bowl team? Unless they are ready for the big game, except for the quarterback, it doesn't make sense to pick up a very pricey older star.
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Posted by: Tami at March 09, 2012 04:36 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: alexthechick at March 09, 2012 04:37 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: izoneguy at March 09, 2012 04:38 PM (7eiBp)
Posted by: Walt 'Skoal' Garrison at March 09, 2012 04:39 PM (c3mby)
Posted by: Baraka Obama at March 09, 2012 04:40 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: izoneguy at March 09, 2012 04:40 PM (7eiBp)
As a Chiefs fan, I fully endorse this plan.
Posted by: logprof at March 09, 2012 04:40 PM (ykSKg)
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 09, 2012 04:40 PM (xm1A1)
Posted by: steevy at March 09, 2012 04:41 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: cherry at March 09, 2012 04:41 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Bill Maher, deep thinker at March 09, 2012 04:42 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: DownbySF at March 09, 2012 04:42 PM (fw1oF)
...WITH an injury dossier of increasing depth.
Manning has a great arm and mind. How's his head and spine?
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 09, 2012 04:43 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Waterhouse at March 09, 2012 04:43 PM (Nfbx3)
Posted by: MostlyRight at March 09, 2012 04:43 PM (BrKMx)
tells me not to do shit.....
No skydiving, rollercoasters, bike riding, playing pro football, etc.....
Posted by: izoneguy at March 09, 2012 08:40 PM (7eiBp)
Not just the vertebra, he has serious nerve damage. Someone looks at him mean and he could go down for good.
Posted by: Tami at March 09, 2012 04:44 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: steevy at March 09, 2012 04:44 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: alexthechick at March 09, 2012 04:44 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 09, 2012 04:45 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: alexthechick at March 09, 2012 04:47 PM (Gk3SS)
It almost never works out when a veteran is brought in to mentor a young player for the same reason it doesn't work in business. The older employee thinks he can still get it done, and is in competition with the younger one. Basically he is training his replacement.
Plus you have other bigger holes on your team that you are ignoring in favor of a band aid.
Posted by: MrCaniac at March 09, 2012 04:49 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: 2549 at March 09, 2012 04:51 PM (kvxPn)
OTOH Broncos management does give the GOP serious competition in the stupid dept.
Posted by: Palerider at March 09, 2012 04:51 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: toby928© at March 09, 2012 04:51 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Jose at March 09, 2012 04:52 PM (srIqv)
Posted by: someone at March 09, 2012 04:52 PM (bqjJT)
Posted by: Ronster at March 09, 2012 04:52 PM (T1nDt)
Cause Sanchez sucks
Posted by: Zakn at March 09, 2012 08:53 PM (7F9i5)
Jets are up against the cap.
Posted by: MrCaniac at March 09, 2012 04:54 PM (1grxW)
Posted by: Zakn at March 09, 2012 04:55 PM (7F9i5)
Posted by: Matt Schaub at March 09, 2012 08:53 PM (GTbGH)
You're good, but you're not Peyton, sorry
Posted by: Jose at March 09, 2012 04:55 PM (srIqv)
Posted by: lowandslow at March 09, 2012 04:56 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: disgusted at March 09, 2012 04:56 PM (oZfic)
Really? I don't follow pro football any more (if it's not coming in from Netflix or Amazon Prime on my Roku, it's not on my television), but why? I know there is quite a bit of Tebow hate out there, but is that going to make up for the people who adore him getting pissy. I can see replacing him with a solid qb, but Manning doesn't sound that solid any more. I'm really curious on any insight on this. I'm a UF graduate and an evangelical, so I'm surrounded by people who love Tebow. However, I know that his offense isn't really standard NFL, and he's inconsistent. I'm not looking forward to having to listen to friends and family whine that he got sacked (figuratively speaking this time) because he's an outspoken Christian.
Posted by: NicoleLF at March 09, 2012 04:56 PM (xq11A)
Posted by: disgusted at March 09, 2012 04:57 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: alexthechick at March 09, 2012 04:57 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: red at March 09, 2012 04:57 PM (7us0J)
Posted by: lowandslow at March 09, 2012 04:57 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: alexthechick at March 09, 2012 08:44 PM (Gk3SS)
I'm good for a chicken casserole with potato chip topping.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2012 04:57 PM (UOM48)
I am hoping they bring Manning in to teach Tebow.
Posted by: Jimbo at March 09, 2012 04:58 PM (O3R/2)
-- Sounds about right. Elway doesn't seem bought in, at least not any more than his publicist tells him he needs to be. But it sure seems logical to keep Tebow anyway. You'd have time to figure out if he's really going to be great QB or a good TE.
One problem I do see is that the personnel you'd want on the offensive line might be different for those two guys.
Posted by: Steve O at March 09, 2012 04:58 PM (Orxpy)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 09, 2012 04:58 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: disgusted at March 09, 2012 08:57 PM (oZfic)
Thanks. Now scurry on off, curious.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2012 04:58 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 09, 2012 04:59 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: The Space Traders at March 09, 2012 04:59 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at March 09, 2012 04:59 PM (jTVGC)
Bank on it.
Posted by: MostlyRight at March 09, 2012 08:43 PM (BrKMx)
--Washington lacks the juice to trade for #2, especially if Cleveland is also interested. The Browns are in a serious rebuilding phase and after the Peyton Hillis fiasco RG3 would be a nice way to keep the box office humming. Manning to Miami, Flynn to the 'Skins, RG3 to the Browns, Arizona stuck with Kolb.
Posted by: logprof at March 09, 2012 05:00 PM (ykSKg)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at March 09, 2012 05:00 PM (DGIjM)
-- Quick, name more than ONE Broncos receiver. It's not like he had Megatron to catch for him. But you are right on with the retraining. Or, training.
Posted by: Steve O at March 09, 2012 05:00 PM (Orxpy)
Posted by: Joe Marcellais at March 09, 2012 05:01 PM (5c8ur)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 09, 2012 05:02 PM (niZvt)
If I were his momma, I'd slap the stupid out of him.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2012 05:02 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: lowandslow at March 09, 2012 05:02 PM (GZitp)
I am hoping they bring Manning in to teach Tebow.
Posted by: Jimbo at March 09, 2012 08:58 PM (O3R/2)
--Actually, Elway was drafted by the Colts and refused to play for them a la Eli with the Chargers. Interesting twist if Denver gets Manning.
Posted by: logprof at March 09, 2012 05:03 PM (ykSKg)
Posted by: t-bird at March 09, 2012 05:04 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: steevy at March 09, 2012 05:04 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: steevy at March 09, 2012 05:05 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: steevy at March 09, 2012 09:04 PM (7W3wI)
I'll give you one guess.
Posted by: Baraka 0. at March 09, 2012 05:06 PM (ykSKg)
And this was only Day 1.
*****
The Broncos are merely one of perhaps a half-dozen - or more - clubs that are thought to be seriously interesting in signing Manning, even though he turns 36 later this month and is coming off a series of neck operations. He missed all of last season, and the Colts decided to cut ties rather than pay a $28 million bonus that was due this week.
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Arizona, Miami, Kansas City, Seattle, Tennessee, Washington and the New York Jets all are considered possible destinations; Manning's former offensive coordinator in Indianapolis, Tom Moore, worked for the Jets as a consultant last season.
Posted by: grease monkey at March 09, 2012 05:06 PM (VSWPU)
Yes, this. If the camera is always on Peyton Manning standing around on the sideline, will there be any time for Big John on-screen?
Posted by: huerfano at March 09, 2012 05:07 PM (fIuC0)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at March 09, 2012 05:08 PM (DGIjM)
Not really, Denver's defense should be credited with any success they may have had last year.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 09, 2012 05:08 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Ronster at March 09, 2012 05:08 PM (T1nDt)
Posted by: Jose at March 09, 2012 08:52 PM (srIqv)
Texans are up against the cap and might have to cut players to re-ssign their own free agents.
Posted by: MrCaniac at March 09, 2012 05:09 PM (1grxW)
all are considered possible destinations; Manning's former offensive
coordinator in Indianapolis, Tom Moore, worked for the Jets as a
consultant last season.
Posted by: grease monkey at March 09, 2012 09:06 PM (VSWPU)
--This is almost like Reggie White, Part 2. Wonder if Peyton's prayin' for a sign?
I doubt the Jets are a serious possibility. They traded multiple draft picks to get Sanchez, plus he can start afresh with a new OC. On top of that, Peyton would be second fiddle in the same town to Eli.
Posted by: logprof at March 09, 2012 05:09 PM (ykSKg)
Posted by: Jimbo at March 09, 2012 05:09 PM (O3R/2)
The Kansas City Chiefs reportedly became the first team to make a formal offer to Peyton Manning.
Brandon Spano, a Denver radio host, says the team made the complete contract offer on Thursday, thus becoming the first and only NFL franchise to do so.
Posted by: grease monkey at March 09, 2012 05:09 PM (VSWPU)
Posted by: lowandslow at March 09, 2012 05:10 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: grease monkey at March 09, 2012 05:11 PM (VSWPU)
Posted by: Tom Brady at March 09, 2012 05:11 PM (Fj9J/)
Minnesota you fucking blew it.
Go Bucks!
Posted by: momma at March 09, 2012 05:12 PM (oKsWl)
Brandon Spano, a Denver radio host, says the team made the complete contract offer on Thursday, thus becoming the first and only NFL franchise to do so.
Posted by: grease monkey at March 09, 2012 09:09 PM (VSWPU)
--Really?!?! I know they have cap room, but Cassel is making a mint. Maybe they're counting on Moeaki being another Dallas Clark with Peyton there. Plus, Bowe will be back another year. Pioli has drafted well so far, so i trust he has a plan to surround Peyton with solid talent, especially at OT.
Posted by: logprof at March 09, 2012 05:12 PM (ykSKg)
Posted by: logprof at March 09, 2012 05:14 PM (ykSKg)
Posted by: Ronster at March 09, 2012 05:15 PM (T1nDt)
Don't worry logprof .. your draft pick is best of all. Congratulations.
Posted by: grease monkey at March 09, 2012 05:16 PM (VSWPU)
Posted by: GGE, Exclusive Member of the ONT at March 09, 2012 05:17 PM (yh0zB)
Oh? Congrats in order, yes?
Posted by: toby928© at March 09, 2012 09:16 PM (GTbGH)
--Official due date is Cinco de Mayo, but last sonogram indicated May 3.
Posted by: logprof at March 09, 2012 05:23 PM (ykSKg)
Posted by: Baraka Obama at March 09, 2012 05:29 PM (FcR7P)
Sure, he'll bring Reggie Wayne along with him, but then all opposing defenses would have to do is keep Wayne locked down and it'll be Kyle Orton all over again.
And Orton struggled as much as he did with the Broncos in large part because the offensive line couldn't protect him. They gave out more sacks than a Kroger regional distribution center. Imagine that line trying to protect a quarterback who could potentially die from one bad hit.
But, yeah, Elway probably does see this as a chance to get rid of Tebow in a way that won't cause a fan revolt (at least, not right away).
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 09, 2012 05:50 PM (vQfJ3)
--Not to mention the Denver rushing attack has been uncharacteristically weak the last couple years.
Posted by: logprof at March 09, 2012 06:07 PM (ykSKg)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 09, 2012 06:07 PM (yqRWu)
1. The Offensive Coordinator's job will be to implement whatever offense I decide I want to run.
2. You will acquite at least two good, plus one GREAT receiver. I'll get them FOR you if you wish.
2b. You WILL install a GREAT offensive line, especially to protect my blind side.
3. No, your doctors don't get to examine me until we decide on everything else. But your doctors can talk to my doctors.
4. No, the contract won't be subject to my ability to play or stay healthy.
5. Most guaranteed money wins.
6. I will get to sleep with the Cheerleaders even though I'm sorta funny-looking.
Posted by: Peyton Manning at March 09, 2012 06:12 PM (Orxpy)
Manning - 4x League MVP; 11x Pro Bowl; 6x AFC Offensive POY; 1 Super Bowl; Avg 10 Wins per Year over his entire career. Career completion % = 65%. Career QB Rating = 95
Tebow - 8 wins against 6 losses; Career completion % = 47%. Career QB rating = 75
Somehow its a "mistake" to not consider Manning?
Posted by: Brock O'bama at March 09, 2012 06:13 PM (/WZ6r)
It might've been a little unfair of me to call the Broncos' receivers lackluster, considering they had to get used to a new quarterback with an unusual style in the middle of the season, but they did drop an awful lot of passes that looked perfectly catchable to me.
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 09, 2012 06:15 PM (vQfJ3)
The dude might only weight 235. but he benches 350. If Tebow were to run to the left out of the backfield, it would be easy for a defense to make 60 yard mistake.
Posted by: Steve O at March 09, 2012 06:19 PM (Orxpy)
102 Doesn't make any sense to me. Mannings former team doesn't think he can do it anymore and they have no QB at all.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 09, 2012 10:07 PM (yqRWu)
They had 28 Million reasons to cut him before today. So for them he was a bit of an unknown and if they are going to move forward might as well do it now so you have cap space for Luck and any other positions you want to shore up.
For other teams, they can look at Manning now, see if he's making improvement with his throwing arm. And it is his throwing arm not his neck that is the issue now. They can write up a contract that is heavily incentivized so if he winds up not playing up to his old standards they won't owe him as much money.
Also I don't think Indy could have hired him as a coach. Manning still thinks he's got something left in the tank and so he's going to want to play.
Posted by: buzzion at March 09, 2012 06:21 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 09, 2012 06:22 PM (tKFT6)
Posted by: buzzion at March 09, 2012 10:21 PM (GULKT)
--Ya think Little Brother going one Super Bowl ring up on him is a little bit of motivation?
Posted by: logprof at March 09, 2012 06:23 PM (ykSKg)
Remember Joe Montana playing for the Chiefs? And Johnny Unitas playing for the Chargers was mentioned earlier.
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 09, 2012 06:24 PM (vQfJ3)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 09, 2012 10:22 PM (tKFT6)
--No trading involved; he's an unrestricted free agent.
Posted by: logprof at March 09, 2012 06:25 PM (ykSKg)
But, really, how can this even be a tough decision?
Posted by: Brock O'bama at March 09, 2012 06:25 PM (/WZ6r)
-- No, I think everyone agrees the Broncos would be a much better team with Manning. But should they also keep Tebow. In the three years Manning has left in his career the Broncos can find out if Tebow can be their next QB or their starting TE.
Posted by: Steve O at March 09, 2012 06:26 PM (Orxpy)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 09, 2012 06:27 PM (vQfJ3)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 09, 2012 10:24 PM (vQfJ3)
--It was not up to Montana's standards, but he most certainly raised the Chiefs up. Not only did he take them on their first trip to the AFC championship game in two decades, the Chiefs have not won a single playoff game in the 19 years since that game.
Posted by: logprof at March 09, 2012 06:27 PM (ykSKg)
Posted by: wooga at March 09, 2012 06:28 PM (IhzyJ)
The Colts weren't a Super Bowl team in 2006 either, except for the fact they had Peyton.
Posted by: Brock O'bama at March 09, 2012 06:31 PM (/WZ6r)
Manning - 4x League MVP; 11x Pro Bowl; 6x AFC Offensive POY; 1 Super Bowl; Avg 10 Wins per Year over his entire career. Career completion % = 65%. Career QB Rating = 95
Tebow - 8 wins against 6 losses; Career completion % = 47%. Career QB rating = 75
Somehow its a "mistake" to not consider Manning?
Posted by: Brock O'bama at March 09, 2012 10:13 PM (/WZ6r)
It's not a mistake, but it's not a "gimme" either... otherwise John Elway should simply QB himself; I mean he's got some great freaking numbers... since you're ignoring the question if he can do those again next year.
Yes, Manning was a great QB, that doesn't mean he always and forever will be... people get old, injured, etc... and Manning has. Sorry, he's not immortal.
Posted by: gekkobear at March 09, 2012 06:32 PM (wt5Rn)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 09, 2012 06:36 PM (vQfJ3)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 09, 2012 06:39 PM (vQfJ3)
Posted by: logprof at March 09, 2012 10:23 PM (ykSKg)
I actually don't think so. I think its just a bit of his own ego that he can still play. And he may be right.
Posted by: buzzion at March 09, 2012 06:40 PM (GULKT)
I'm not ignoring any question... unless I missed it somewhere, you're the first person that brought up the question about whether Peyton could continue to perform.
The beautiful thing is... every team that's interested will be able to sample the goods before they make a decision. But, to simply not consider bringing him in because you have Tebow... I think a few folks have disconnected from reality.
Posted by: Brock O'bama at March 09, 2012 06:43 PM (/WZ6r)
Posted by: Brock O'bama at March 09, 2012 06:49 PM (/WZ6r)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 09, 2012 06:51 PM (vQfJ3)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 09, 2012 10:51 PM (vQfJ3)
Maybe, but allow me to suggest a possibility that outcome would be unlikely. First, there was nothing particularly impressive about the Colts O-Line for all those years. Second, part of the process is to shift the O-Line to set up the proper blocking scheme and to pick up the blitzes and stunts. I think Peyton can teach more O Coordinators a thing or two about that. Simply put, I think it would be an apples-to-oranges comparison.
Posted by: Brock O'bama at March 09, 2012 07:00 PM (/WZ6r)
Tebow has just the right mix of factors to fit right in with the Broncos, and make them a good team. If the Broncos continue to work with him, and build the team around his strengths, he has the potential to make the team great.
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 09, 2012 07:05 PM (vQfJ3)
Fair enough, GT. But, I fundamentally disagree about Tebow's abilities and his potential. Beautiful thing is... it'll all play out on the field...
Posted by: Brock O'bama at March 09, 2012 07:11 PM (/WZ6r)
I think it's a bad idea to ditch the guy who's already turned your team into a winner, and has potential to do more, in favor of someone who made a totally different team great, and now is most likely past his prime.
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 09, 2012 07:11 PM (vQfJ3)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 09, 2012 07:14 PM (vQfJ3)
Posted by: rickl supports SMOD/Supervolcano 2012 at March 09, 2012 07:16 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 09, 2012 11:05 PM (vQfJ3)
--Regardless of Tebow's potential, if you have the cap space to bring Payton in *and* keep Tebow, why not try to shoot the moon? It's not like it is a long-term arrangement.
Posted by: logprof at March 09, 2012 07:17 PM (ykSKg)
Respectfully, I'll continue to disagree. Tebow played the softest schedule that Denver could play when they started him. He only beat sub-.500 teams during this run to the playoffs, and he had to come from behind to do that because he was simply terrible. His win against Pittsburgh in the Wildcard game was awesome, but the SS for Pittsburgh simply forgot how to play football. But, it was a good win nonetheless.
Posted by: Brock O'bama at March 09, 2012 07:20 PM (/WZ6r)
But, I suspect that's exactly what Elway's planning to do.
Bringing in Manning to help train Tebow? Great! Elway was planning to work with Tebow, himself, but Elway's a busy guy with a lot of responsibilities.
If they decided to bench Tebow and start Manning, I wouldn't mind. But Tebow should remain a part of this team.
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 09, 2012 07:25 PM (vQfJ3)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 09, 2012 07:33 PM (vQfJ3)
Posted by: nip at March 09, 2012 08:06 PM (9STqc)
Isn't mediocre better than "simply terrible"?
And yet, when the Broncos benched the mediocre Orton in favor of the "terrible" Tebow, it took Tebow thirteen games to rack up more losses than Orton had in five games.
The Broncos were able to pull together and win with Tebow in a way they couldn't with Orton. That kind of leadership is worth far more than a completion rating.
A Tim Tebow can learn to be a better passer, but a Kyle Orton can't learn to be a winner.
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 09, 2012 08:09 PM (vQfJ3)
Posted by: MostlyRight at March 09, 2012 09:00 PM (BrKMx)
MostlyRight 1, logprof 0. ;-)
Posted by: MostlyRight at March 10, 2012 01:00 AM (BrKMx)
--Heard about that on the radio around when you posted.
I should *never* underestimate Fantasy-Real Football Owner Dan Snyder's propensity to give away the store.
Posted by: logprof at March 09, 2012 09:52 PM (ykSKg)
what a backup QB makes and he'd be very good out of the wildcat. Just
having him available would mean there would be one more thing for
defenses to prepare for. Besides, he may make some real strides this year
towards becoming a real NFL QB.
Posted by: Rich Johnson at March 09, 2012 11:42 PM (aB9ot)
Posted by: waelse1 at March 10, 2012 03:10 AM (8wji4)
Posted by: AZC at March 10, 2012 03:57 AM (WvS06)
Posted by: Carl Spackler at March 10, 2012 04:37 AM (zeWyX)
Not to mention good weather, low key local media, and a very accommodating coaching staff.
Posted by: Vercingetorix at March 10, 2012 06:02 AM (pOUA4)
If Manning goes to Denver, they have to get rid of Tebow to stop the fans from going crazy the first time Manning doesn't look like Manning.
Send Tebow to Jacksonville. He's already a hero there and would actually fill the stands. And its obvious that Denver management really doesn't want to deal with the "phenomenon" any more.
And, oh yeah, Elway sucks.
Posted by: sgr at March 10, 2012 07:06 AM (4WiB4)
Posted by: Brock O'bama at March 10, 2012 10:16 AM (TP3wG)
Manning wouldn't just the QB, he'd also be the offensive coordinator. And while the current offensive coordinator might be happy draw up schemes for Tebow, I suspect that Manning isn't going to want to mess around with that. He's going to want to throw the ball out of the pocket the say way he did in Indy.
Tebow might be a slightly expensive TE, I he wouldn't make as good a backup QB to Manning since the entire offense would have to be so different for him. The question is, where does Tebow go? It's not like there are teams drooling at the prospect of signing a 47% passer. Maybe no one will be interested, in which case he might as well stay in Denver.
Posted by: Steve O at March 10, 2012 11:09 AM (Orxpy)
Posted by: Steve O at March 10, 2012 03:09 PM (Orxpy)
And undersized (height-wise) in reality...
Posted by: Brock O'bama at March 10, 2012 11:16 AM (/WZ6r)
"Well, it looks like from now on the safeties and corners will have to play the pass and stay deep even when they see it is a run. That should open up the Denver running game a bit. And the defense is already having trouble playing the pass."
"That's right. Manning has all day to throw. It seems like Denver can do anything it wants to on offense right now."
"I guess that's what happens when your Tight End is also a Running Back who can throw the ball."
"Yes, Tebow can throw the ball, but he still looks like someone throwing a burning saucepan into the sink."
Posted by: Steve O at March 10, 2012 11:17 AM (Orxpy)
Posted by: Steve O at March 10, 2012 11:18 AM (Orxpy)
Anyway, Orton didn't face a much tougher schedule than Tebow.
http://www.nfl.com/teams/schedule?team=DEN
The Orton-led Broncos lost close games against the Raiders, the Titans, and the Chargers (and the Chargers game was only close because that's when Tebow jumped in). Orton won a close game against the Bengals. He got blown out by the Packers (the one "good" opponent out of the first five).
Tebow later beat two of the teams that beat Orton, and two other teams that were just as good as the Titans and the Bengals (The Bears and the Jets).
I think with Tebow, the Broncos would've prevailed in those three close losses. When the score's been close, Tebow has consistently found a way to win (the one exception was, rather ironically, against the Orton-led Chiefs, and both QBs stunk up the field that day). Conversely, the games Tebow lost, Orton would've lost just as badly.
Now, I do realize we're comparing the merits of Tebow and Manning, here, and I feel that Manning's age and injury just make him too big a risk to uproot the whole system and go all-in on him.
And you can't build an entire team around a quarterback whose days are numbered like that. There's just not enough time. The Broncos would need, for example, new receivers and a new offensive line, or all Manning's gifts wouldn't amount to a hill of beans.
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 10, 2012 04:46 PM (vQfJ3)
Everyone knows Peyton is going to Houston. They have the best defense in the league, great running backs and wide receivers, and are the best bet for him to get to another Super Bowl in the shortest time.
And I say that as a Broncos fan who'd love to have him here
Posted by: Campesino at March 10, 2012 05:19 PM (26hv6)
Are they even interested, though? They've already got a really good quarterback, with a lot of years left in him. They've got really good everything, actually, including the kind of receiving corps and offensive line Peyton would need.
I'm not sure how Schaub would feel about being benched, but it'd be smart of the Texans to try to keep him around, just in case.
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at March 10, 2012 07:27 PM (vQfJ3)
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