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December 12, 2012

PolitiFact's Lie Of The Year? Shock Of Shocks...It's Something Romney Said
— DrewM

Mitt Romney's claim in a campaign ad that President Barack Obama "sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China" earned PolitiFact's "Lie of the Year," the site announced on Wednesday.

Of course to do this they have to conflate two separate statements and ignore reality.

From PolitiFact's "award" (no links for propagandists)

"I saw a story today, that one of the great manufacturers in this state, Jeep, now owned by the Italians, is thinking of moving all production to China," he said, to boos from the audience. "I will fight for every good job in America. IÂ’m going to fight to make sure trade is fair, and if itÂ’s fair, America will win."
Reporters mentioned the mistake in their stories the next day, it lit up the Internet, and the liberal cable channel MSNBC attacked Romney for not knowing the facts.
"His lie is embarrassing, frankly, and it should be unsettling for the rest of the world," said MSNBCÂ’s Rachel Maddow. "Imagine Romney waking up in the Lincoln bedroom or whatever, checking his conservative Twitter feed and running with whatever he finds there."
RomneyÂ’s campaign didnÂ’t retreat, though. It doubled down with a TV ad for Ohio voters that weekend:
"Who will do more for the auto industry? Not Barack Obama," the ad began, adding, "Obama took GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy and sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China. Mitt Romney will fight for every American job." A similar radio ad soon followed.

The campaign statement was based on an erroneous report in the Washington Examiner. Romney never used the "all production to China" line once he was told the story he was relying on was wrong.

The second claim that Chrysler is going to build Jeeps in China is true. Even PolitiFact admits that.

But Chrysler was thinking of reviving the Jeep brand in key foreign markets, and like other American automakers, Chrysler preferred to build cars in the countries where it intended to sell them -- a common strategy to reduce tariffs and transport costs.

In their original Pants on Fire rating for the ad they said this.

Bragman, the auto analyst, said RomneyÂ’s notion that expansion in China comes at a cost to American workers runs counter to the facts. ChryslerÂ’s Toledo plant is running at full capacity, and its Detroit plant is at three shifts. Chrysler is building cars in the United States for sale here.
The production of cars in China is a sign of Chrysler's growing strength in overseas markets. It would like to build Jeeps in China to sell in China. It is not outsourcing American auto jobs.

This is the nifty little slight of hand. Suddenly opening plants in foreign countries is cool and doesn't cost US jobs? Why I'm so old I remember when Obama though that was immoral.

The distinction Obama and liberals are making is it's only eviilllll outsourcing (off shoring really) if a plant closes and the production is moved to another country but it's fine and dandy if a company opens a plant in another country instead of America (except when a Republican invests in that company, then it's evil again).

This is the intellectual corruption that infects the Democratic Machine Media.

By the way, here's my "Lie of the Year"

Â“We should ask the wealthiest Americans to pay a little more,Â”

Obama isn't going to "ask" anyone to pay more, he's going to make them pay more. Just try saying to the IRS, "The President has asked me to pay this higher right, I respectfully decline".

Posted by: DrewM at 07:33 AM | Comments (93)
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1 Politfact is just as bad as snopes. Both a joke.

Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2012 07:35 AM (O/fK8)

2 I for one welcome our new blockquote overlords.

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2012 07:35 AM (GQ8sn)

3 And it's gone!

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2012 07:35 AM (GQ8sn)

4 Reality and truth, two things Politifacts has trouble with.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 12, 2012 07:36 AM (4+0nx)

5 and the 2012 campaign continues...

Posted by: soothsayer at December 12, 2012 07:36 AM (+7i2c)

6 "politi-facts" should be renamed Democrat Lying Assholes.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:37 AM (YdQQY)

"I intend to pay down the debt"

- Barak Obama, 2008, 2012

Posted by: BobAccosted Us at December 12, 2012 07:37 AM (uEm7J)

8 It's hard to pick just one, but it would have to be Obama's "We didn't take $718 Billion dollars from MediCare."

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 12, 2012 07:37 AM (RrD4h)

9 Wait - regardless of the facts, of ALL the lies told by any person this year - they went with the Jeep ad - something I bet nearly nobody even remembers? What a bunch of...

Posted by: adc at December 12, 2012 07:37 AM (QRtGH)

10 7 "I intend to pay down the debt" - Barak Obama, 2008, 2012 --- "If the economy is worse off in three years, I'll be a one-term president" - Barack Obama, 2008.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 12, 2012 07:38 AM (e0xKF)

11 Winning another term wasn't enough. The Left wants the GOP dead.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 12, 2012 07:39 AM (EaivH)

12 Shocked, shocked etc

Posted by: your winnings, sir at December 12, 2012 07:39 AM (QupBk)

13 Any conservative who buys a GM, Ford or Chrysler is a fucking imbecile.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 12, 2012 07:39 AM (HDgX3)

14 Every time Obama opens his mouth a lie vomits forth and splashes on the feet of the American public.

After 4 years we are wading in lying vomit. In another 4 years we will be swimming in it.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:39 AM (YdQQY)

15 Couldn't we just eliminate the year and go with the biggest lie ever. "I'm from the Government and I'm here to help"

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 12, 2012 07:40 AM (81UWZ)

16 When Sergio Marchionne moves the whole thing to Italy, I guess the last laugh will be Romney's.

Posted by: EveR at December 12, 2012 07:40 AM (pPOhx)

17 I will propose a net spending cut.
-BHO 2008

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2012 07:41 AM (GQ8sn)

18 They must be reserving "You didn't build that." for the International competition entry.

Posted by: BobAccosted Us at December 12, 2012 07:41 AM (uEm7J)

19 @11

The Donks are reenacting Sherman's March to The Sea on the GOP.

GOP "leadership" has been weighed, measured and found to be wanting.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 12, 2012 07:41 AM (RrD4h)

20 Respectfully Vic, I believe we are already drowning in it.

Posted by: SouthDakotaGirl at December 12, 2012 07:41 AM (5A+yj)

21 That China/Jeep lie was based on a youtube video. The guy who did the video is now in jail.

Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2012 07:41 AM (fWAjv)

22 By the way, here's my "Lie of the Year" "Our plan worked"

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2012 07:41 AM (FcR7P)

23 Â“First of all, heÂ’s right. Normally, you donÂ’t raise taxes in a recession, which is why we havenÂ’t and why weÂ’ve instead cut taxes. So I guess what IÂ’d say to Scott is Â– his economics are right. You donÂ’t raise taxes in a recession. We havenÂ’t raised taxes in a recession.Â”

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 12, 2012 07:41 AM (TtXjG)

24 How do they figure that is the "Lie of the year." Clearly they aren't going by influence - because if you don't follow politics - right now you are thinking, what Jeep ad? Or, so what, ads are ads?

Posted by: adc at December 12, 2012 07:41 AM (QRtGH)

25 I would like to spend the night with Brooklyn Decker.

What? She says "no?"

That's not fair!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2012 07:42 AM (GsoHv)

26 Dick Morris, the fraud who says exactly what you want to hear, has another prediction. It's pretty much what I said will happen. So that means The opposite will happen. Thanks, Dick.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 12, 2012 07:42 AM (8sdr0)

27 Winning another term wasn't enough. The Left wants the GOP dead. Posted by: soothsayer at December 12, 2012 11:39 AM (EaivH)

True Dat and except for a few notable stalwarts, the GOP is committing suicide as fast as it can. I am embarrassed that the GOP falls for every single trap the Left lays out for them. Once in a very great while, it would be nice to see Boner look up at the Acme safe falling towards his head and make a token attempt to evade it.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 12, 2012 07:43 AM (kXoT0)

28 It's not a tax was a pretty big boner. But yeah, the source.

Posted by: Flounder at December 12, 2012 07:43 AM (Kkt/i)

29 Transparency in Government, now that's a whopper from the three card Monte dealer from Kenya...

Posted by: Clemenza at December 12, 2012 07:44 AM (Q8Pu5)

Obama isn't going to "ask" anyone to pay more, he's going to make them pay more.

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Asking is just polite demanding.

Posted by: Max Headroom at December 12, 2012 07:44 AM (NmR1a)

31 Excuse me, the lie of the year was

any newspaper editorial endorsing TFG for re-election. To posit that not only had Obama done a good job for four years, but was deserving of four more, was a lie so monstrous, so vile, so totally beyond any reasonable standard of human decency, that it must qualify as the lie of the year, if not the young century.

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 12, 2012 07:44 AM (8sCoq)

32 "More!"

Posted by: That Kid in the Dickens Story at December 12, 2012 07:45 AM (71LDo)

33 Projection, how do it work?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 07:45 AM (3Y7RV)

Obama isn't going to "ask" anyone to pay more, he's going to make them pay more.

And it ain't going to be limited to just the "wealthiest" Americans.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/b][/i][/u] at December 12, 2012 07:46 AM (4df7R)

35 I'll never buy a UAW product again, even if it is made in China.

Posted by: runninrebel at December 12, 2012 07:46 AM (je2hI)

36 Look the Left has control of the media. My Goodness, they actually have managed to package and sell Michelle Obama as a fashionista, the Obamas as a loving couple jointly raising two lovely daughters, Joe Biden as loveable, and Lizzie Warren as having a brain in their somewhere. That is pretty damn impressive.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 12, 2012 07:46 AM (kXoT0)

37 >>> I am embarrassed that the GOP falls for every single trap the Left lays out for them. And the traps are identical! We've done all this before. It's a farsical play, the same routine over and over.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 12, 2012 07:46 AM (gtTDa)

38 "Lies it was all lies that was just something I made up for the FBI guys"
Check one >>

Susan Rice?
Eric Holder?
Hilly Clinton?
Frank Pantagalese?

Posted by: Clemenza at December 12, 2012 07:47 AM (Q8Pu5)

39 We've done all this before. It's a farsical play, the same routine over and over.

All that has happened before, will happen again.

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2012 07:47 AM (GQ8sn)

Just think of the carnage Romney's lie caused.

I mean it's not like he said a video caused a premeditated terrorist attack that killed four Americans. It was obviously much worse.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 12, 2012 07:47 AM (B+qrE)

41
Speaking of Chrysler, they were forced to reinstate the "workers" who were caught getting drunk and stoned during lunch.

Keep that in mind the next time you're driving a Chrysler product and the steering wheel comes off in your hands.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 12, 2012 07:48 AM (Jcd0S)

42 Hey I've got an idea. Let's re fight the last election over and over and over again and cry about spilt milk some more. You know instead of attacking Obama and the democrats and trying to win the next election.

Posted by: james at December 12, 2012 07:49 AM (aFFFO)

43 38 "Lies it was all lies that was just something I made up for the FBI guys" Check one >> Susan Rice? Eric Holder? Hilly Clinton? Frank Pantagalese? --- At least Frankie Five Angels got to do things himself.

Posted by: Vince Foster at December 12, 2012 07:50 AM (e0xKF)

44 Bragman, the auto analyst, said RomneyÂ’s notion that expansion in China comes at a cost to American workers runs counter to the facts. ChryslerÂ’s Toledo plant is running at full capacity, and its Detroit plant is at three shifts. Chrysler is building cars in the United States for sale here. Bragman, the rodent analyst, said the notion of seven-legged mice on Mars runs counter to the facts because we have only four-legged mice here on Earth. Non-sequiturs, how do they work? Latin is sooooo hard ...

Posted by: crisi du jour at December 12, 2012 07:50 AM (DFGPG)

45 Huh. Here I thought the lie of the year would have something to do with mouths.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Tick tock tick tock. at December 12, 2012 07:50 AM (VtjlW)

46 >Keep that in mind the next time you're driving a Chrysler product and the steering wheel comes off in your hands.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 12, 2012 11:48 AM (Jcd0S)

"new car smell" replaced by reefer stink

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 12, 2012 07:50 AM (8sCoq)

47 "Once in a very great while, it would be nice to see Boner look up at the Acme safe falling towards his head and make a token attempt to evade it." First have to get the stupid SoB to stop buying shit from their catalogue.

Posted by: AlexC at December 12, 2012 07:50 AM (t7RJr)

We classify "right-to-work" as a pants-on-fire lie. You cannot work after a group of cowardly union thugs sucker-punch you and then beat you to death.

Posted by: Politifact at December 12, 2012 07:51 AM (ggRof)

49 effin iPads, how do they work?

Posted by: crisis du jour at December 12, 2012 07:51 AM (DFGPG)

50 For guys like this I just employ the scare quote method: Politifact is a fact "checker." This is where you suppress a guffaw.

Posted by: joncelli at December 12, 2012 07:51 AM (RD7QR)

51 And the traps are identical! We've done all this before. It's a farsical play, the same routine over and over. Posted by: soothsayer at December 12, 2012 11:46 AM (gtTDa)

Exactamundo and their favorite fool proof GOTCHA is the Abortion question--to which there is no good answer for a GOP candidate. I am in favor of a mandatory brain washing camp for GOP candidates, where they use aversion therapy to train them to never take the question, but, just give a stock answer, "Abortion is settled law. I do not discuss it, next question."

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Wily Wrepublican Wench at December 12, 2012 07:51 AM (kXoT0)

52 "I was there, I voted against them. I said no, we can't afford that"

Posted by: Debatin' Joe Biden at December 12, 2012 07:51 AM (BrQrN)

53 Speaking of Chrysler, they were forced to reinstate the "workers" who were caught getting drunk and stoned during lunch.

Keep that in mind the next time you're driving a Chrysler product and the steering wheel comes off in your hands.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 12, 2012 11:48 AM (Jcd0S)

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OK. The last time I was thinking "That ditch isn't too deep but the tree..."

Posted by: RioBravo at December 12, 2012 07:52 AM (eEfYn)

54 Obama isn't going to "ask" anyone to pay more, he's going to make them pay more.

He's not making "the wealthiest" pay more, either. Their heirs may have to, if they're too stupid to set up the trusts correctly, but we don't tax wealth in this country, we tax income. Once you've got yours, you can fix it so you pay very little indeed.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 12, 2012 07:52 AM (/kI1Q)

55 This is so typical of the Marxist propanda machine that is the left. Read my blog, small craft advisory chronicles at blogspot.com

Posted by: Damon at December 12, 2012 07:54 AM (3q4O6)

56 War on Women.

Talked to the ex-gf last night, I almost convinced her to vote R/R. I asked why she pulled the lever for 4 more years of disaster. "I wanted to protect my reproductive rights. Romney scared me."

Facepalm and heated words followed (especially after '[Obama/]Clinton's done a good job internationally.').

Of course, she's a self-admited low-info voter. Maybe in 4 more years she'll be more open to truth.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at December 12, 2012 07:54 AM (X/+QT)

57 Obamas approval numbers keep going up

Posted by: occam at December 12, 2012 07:54 AM (hgDJr)

58 "Imagine Romney waking up in the Lincoln bedroom or whatever, checking his conservative Twitter feed and running with whatever he finds there." ______________________________ I very much doubt that Romney read the Chrysler story on Twitter. He probably read it the same place I read it: on Bloomberg's business news. Is that a "conservative" site? Last I checked, Bloomberg was still an Obama-supporting nanny state loon.

Posted by: Observer at December 12, 2012 07:54 AM (/sohm)

59 Doesn't the original Bloomberg story quote the CEO of Fiat as considering moving all Jeep production there? Or can't I reid?

Posted by: Reidemandweep at December 12, 2012 07:55 AM (2ZE+B)

60 >Obamas approval numbers keep going up

Posted by: occam at December 12, 2012 11:54 AM (hgDJr)

Well, some people are convinced that shit doesn't stink

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 12, 2012 07:55 AM (8sCoq)

Obama isn't going to "ask" anyone to pay more, he's going to make them pay more. Just try saying to the IRS, "The President has asked me to pay this higher right, I respectfully decline".

A-effing-men, Drew. I had to shove that in the faces of a few lefty relatives over Thanksgiving. I followed that up with, "my wife and I make (figure redacted) a year. I want you to tell me exactly what the hell my "fair share" is. Money, motherfu*ker! Give me a number!"

Well, actually, I didn't say that last bit because Mrs P hustled me out of the room. But it shut those doucheholes up for the rest of the day, anyway. I'm looking forward to an encore presentation at Christmas.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 12, 2012 07:56 AM (zF6Iw)

62 @60 but we all know turds float...

Posted by: Clemenza at December 12, 2012 07:56 AM (Q8Pu5)

63 I guess claiming a video caused the deaths of 4 Americans wasn't even considered

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2012 07:57 AM (1Jaio)

64 That snake pit needs a Mongoose or 5

Posted by: Clemenza at December 12, 2012 07:58 AM (Q8Pu5)

65 61.

Jib. Cut. Newsletter.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at December 12, 2012 07:58 AM (X/+QT)

66 We've been visited by all three dunces this morning. It's like a Dickens story.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 12, 2012 07:58 AM (QupBk)

67 Obamas approval numbers keep going up Posted by: occam Using your Razor, that can only mean he's doing a great job.

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2012 07:59 AM (FcR7P)

I'm Barack Obama, and here's my entry for Lie of the Year. It was at Colonial, the twelfth or thirteenth time I played it this year - 4th hole fairway. My set-up short caught a tuft of crosscut, and there was this damn twig right up against my Titleist! But somehow I managed to hit a perfect lift, all the way to the pin - 7 feet away! Man, if THAT wasn't the Lie of the Year, I don't know what was! And I should know.

Posted by: Barackabama at December 12, 2012 07:59 AM (uEm7J)

69 Doesn't the original Bloomberg story quote the CEO of Fiat as considering moving all Jeep production there? Or can't I reid? Posted by: Reidemandweep at December 12, 2012 11:55 AM (2ZE+B) ________________________ IIRC, yes it did. Romney did not pull that story out of his ass. Bloomberg reported what the execs at Chrysler said, and Romney repeated what he'd read. If that's a "lie," then everything is a lie.

Posted by: Observer at December 12, 2012 07:59 AM (/sohm)

70 Doesn't the original Bloomberg story quote the CEO of Fiat as considering moving all Jeep production there? Or can't I reid?

Posted by: Reidemandweep at December 12, 2012 11:55 AM (2ZE+B)

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I read it as referring to making all Jeep models in China rather than moving all Jeep production to China.

Posted by: RioBravo at December 12, 2012 08:00 AM (eEfYn)

71 Unmitigated crap. You could pull at least 20 lies from the Obama campaign for every one (real or supposed) from Romney's. And why pick an ordinary campaign claim anyway? It's not as if we didn't have an utterly egregious, absurd choice for the award.....namely, the video lie about the Benghazi attack. No brainer, even for a lefty. Unless all you care about is the Perpetual Campaign. Or unless you yourself are a liar.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 12, 2012 08:00 AM (C8mVl)

72 Well, actually, I didn't say that last bit because Mrs P hustled me out of the room. But it shut those doucheholes up for the rest of the day, anyway. I'm looking forward to an encore presentation at Christmas. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 12, 2012 11:56 AM (zF6Iw) I just stopped going cause I knew I would hit somebody.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 08:00 AM (3Y7RV)

73 @63 when some African American is assassinated in Manhattan by an African American it is a crime under investigation, when a guy kills 2 people and himself in a shopping mall it is a call for gun confiscation..

Posted by: Clemenza at December 12, 2012 08:01 AM (Q8Pu5)

74 when some African American is assassinated in Manhattan by an African American it is a crime under investigation, when a guy kills 2 people and himself in a shopping mall it is a call for gun confiscation.. Posted by: Clemenza at December 12, 2012 12:01 PM (Q8Pu5) That was the most picture perfect gang hit I have ever seen. Why don't the MFM discuss violent gangs anymore?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 08:02 AM (3Y7RV)

75 I think the most egregious lie was that the ATF, without the approval or knowledge of anyone outside the department, could send weapons to drug cartels in a neighboring country.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 12, 2012 08:03 AM (QupBk)

76 when some African American is assassinated in Manhattan by an African American it is a crime under investigation, when a guy kills 2 people and himself in a shopping mall it is a call for gun confiscation.. Posted by: Clemenza at December 12, 2012 12:01 PM (Q8Pu5) That was the most picture perfect gang hit I have ever seen. Why don't the MFM discuss violent gangs anymore? Oh yeah, I thought NY had the toughest gun laws in the nation? Hows that workin out?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 08:04 AM (3Y7RV)

77 "Bragman, the auto analyst, said RomneyÂ’s notion that expansion in China comes at a cost to American workers runs counter to the facts. ChryslerÂ’s Toledo plant is running at full capacity, and its Detroit plant is at three shifts. Chrysler is building cars in the United States for sale here. The production of cars in China is a sign of Chrysler's growing strength in overseas markets. It would like to build Jeeps in China to sell in China. It is not outsourcing American auto jobs." Once upon a time, the Obama Admin so strongly disagreed with this thinking, it stopped Boeing from opening a new plant in another state, because the expansion was a "taking" in retaliation against union labor at the first plant in Washington. There is no objective facts. "A lie is not a lie if it helps the Party".

Posted by: Chris Balsz at December 12, 2012 08:06 AM (3GtyG)

78 Lie of the Year?

"It was a spontaneous protest that got out of hand."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 12, 2012 08:06 AM (da5Wo)

79 The MFM should have won the lie of the year award for lying through their rotten teeth for their hero Prezzy Choom

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2012 08:10 AM (1Jaio)

80 Most egregious lie?

The Cake.

Posted by: dananjcon at December 12, 2012 08:18 AM (jvd3N)

81 If you want to keep your assembly plant in China, you can keep your assembly plant in China.

Posted by: president o'bumbles at December 12, 2012 08:22 AM (jPVBi)

"Romney Can Beat Obama."

That's my pick.

Posted by: Sam In VA at December 12, 2012 08:26 AM (rFiOs)

Here is the opening sentence of the Bloomberg News article:

'Fiat, majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakersÂ’ operations in the region.'

Later:

Â“The volume opportunity for us is very significant,Â” Manley, who is also president of the Jeep brand, said in an interview at ChryslerÂ’s Auburn Hills, Michigan, headquarters. Â“WeÂ’re reviewing the opportunities within existing capacityÂ” as well as Â“should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio.Â”

So, if Romney says "I saw an article where jeep was 'thinking about' moving all Jeep production to China", is that a lie? No, not at all. That's what the story said. A GM exec is quoted as saying essentially that in the excerpt above.

Bloomberg article also says:

"Manley referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China."

However, they just put him in quotes saying Â“should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio.Â”

The facts is, for Romney to say what he did was not a lie. Did he see the story? Yes? Did the story say that jeep was "thinking about" moving all Jeep production to China? Yes, it did, and the GM exec is IN QUOTES sayiing essentially that.

I would rate calling Romney a liar here as the Lie of the Year.

Posted by: Landru at December 12, 2012 08:30 AM (gaP+R)

84 As I sit here in my jail cell, no one has asked me what the biggest lie of the year was.

Posted by: Nakoula Basseley Nakoula at December 12, 2012 08:30 AM (jeAQW)

85 Did the story say that jeep was "thinking about" moving all Jeep production to China? Yes, it did, and the GM exec is IN QUOTES sayiing essentially that.
I would rate calling Romney a liar here as the Lie of the Year.

Posted by: Landru at December 12, 2012 12:30 PM (gaP+R)

Wrong.

The exec is saying they will produce all Jeep models in China eventually - as local production in China. He does not say production in China will replace current production in the US of all or any models. Merely that they may eventually produce the complete model lineup in China as well as all or some of the lineup in North America. They will make the same model in multiple plants.

Posted by: RioBravo at December 12, 2012 08:45 AM (eEfYn)

86 -"Bragman, the auto analyst, said RomneyÂ’s notion that expansion in China comes at a cost to American workers runs counter to the facts. ChryslerÂ’s Toledo plant is running at full capacity, and its Detroit plant is at three shifts. Chrysler is building cars in the United States for sale here."

Uhmmm. Two of Toledo Jeeps three lines went on Layoff in August. will not restart with a NEW model until Jan.

Posted by: jeff talbut at December 12, 2012 09:26 AM (V5auc)

87 I know this because I'm on a hire list for the new line. Taking my P-Test later today.

Posted by: jeff talbut at December 12, 2012 09:27 AM (V5auc)

Hey, how's Crowder's face doing? Did she cry?

Posted by: RagsMacNeil at December 12, 2012 10:02 AM (a6/EB)

89 78Lie of the Year?

"It was a spontaneous protest that got out of hand."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 12, 2012 12:06 PM (da5Wo)

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Benghazi ---- ZZZZzzzzz

Posted by: RagsMacNeil at December 12, 2012 10:03 AM (a6/EB)

90 Because the White House won't stop lying about Benghazi long enough for us to decide what the most outrageous lie was?

Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at December 12, 2012 10:53 AM (L4CWX)

91 Lie of the Year - Biden claiming he voted against 2 wars that he voted for. Nothing but crickets from the MFM.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at December 12, 2012 10:53 AM (UU0OF)

92 Two years ago, PolitiFact's Lie Of The Year was 'ObamaCare: A government takeover of health care.'

Posted by: BuddyPC at December 12, 2012 01:58 PM (jfUIE)

93 Lie of the year? Yeah that would be Obama lying to the world at the UN about Benghazi. The second would be related, the lie of omission regarding the two heros of Benghazi - Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, the silence regarding a 6 hour epic fire fight where they killed 60 of almost 200 attackers.

Posted by: dscott at December 12, 2012 04:38 PM (EYzt8)

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