March 05, 2012
— Ace CAC writes:
PPP has it now Romney +1 37-36, leading amongst those who decided in last few days. Numbers currently only on twitter (@ppppolls) but should be up on their main site soon.Larry Sabato, I think correctly, pegged Romney carrying 6-7 states on Super Tuesday.
But Rasmussen has Santorum +1. ARG has Romney +7, and Qunnippiac has it Romney +3.
Of course that is current sentiment. But people have been casting early ballots for weeks.
Among such voters, a Suffolk poll says that Santorum has a seventeen point lead.
According to the survey, 13% of likely voters have already cast their vote. A seventeen-point advantage could be decisive, especially if turnout drops off tomorrow and that percentage of early voting ends up being larger than 13%.
A Marist poll has Romney up 3 among early voters. Which I think is wrong. It makes a lot more sense that Santorum would be.
In any event, the smaller the subgroup you're looking at, the higher the Margin of Error.
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Posted by: BackwardsBoy, feeling all extra curmudgeony today at March 05, 2012 12:29 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2012 12:29 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 05, 2012 12:30 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 05, 2012 12:30 PM (jucos)
What I am more anxious about seeing is turnout. I expect OH to be high, maybe not so in the others.
If turnout remains low it does not bode well for down the road.
Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2012 12:31 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: wheatie at March 05, 2012 12:31 PM (dauG/)
Posted by: OWS loves you until you die happy at March 05, 2012 12:33 PM (niW49)
And, BTW, that's not an endorsement, just a prediction.
I'm still behind SMOD. Well, underneath, actually.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, feeling all extra curmudgeony today at March 05, 2012 12:33 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 05, 2012 04:31 PM (/kI1Q)
There's a little ceremony, and they hand out trophies for participation and such, and then there's pizza.
(Sorry, weird mood today.)
Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2012 12:34 PM (RD7QR)
I don't know. Just a week ago, I think, Santorum was up by 7 here.
There haven't been a whole lot of Santorum ads (or maybe they weren't interesting enough to remember) but there have been tons of Romney ads and a bunch of not-Gingrich (Winning Our Future) ads that are kind of funny.
Just based on what I hear, at least in Central Ohio, I'm guessing Santorum will win.
Posted by: ErikW at March 05, 2012 12:35 PM (RKOob)
Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2012 12:36 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 05, 2012 12:36 PM (jucos)
Are they mainly sampling SW latinos of the Mexican variety or have they mixed it evenly with the South FL Cuban variety? Because experience has show the SW Mexican variety are pure Democrat gimme voters.
In addition, how many of these sampled were illegals or former illegals who were amnestied in previous crap actions? Of course they would be for the DREAM act and amnesty where as citizens who went through the full process to obtain citizenship would not be.
But all in all, one wonders what ax Fox is grinding with this poll, other than the fact that they have always been in the amnesty camp.
Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2012 12:36 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 05, 2012 12:37 PM (lVGED)
Another prediction: if Neut doesn't do a big-time surge in delegates on ST, he's out. I don't want that, 'cause I think he'd be the best one to go up against the SCOAMF in the general if he gets his fire back and starts going after the real enemy.
Again, just walkin' around with my wheelbarrow full of, um, stuff.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, feeling all extra curmudgeony today at March 05, 2012 12:37 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 05, 2012 04:31 PM (/kI1Q)
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All primaries before April 1 are supposed to be proportional.
Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2012 12:37 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: wheatie at March 05, 2012 04:31 PM (dauG/)
Crispin Glover and R. Lee Ermey sadly couldn't save that remake (which was a film that was ripe for a great re-do)
Posted by: The Dude at March 05, 2012 12:39 PM (M8yfa)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 05, 2012 12:39 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: blaster at March 05, 2012 12:40 PM (7vSU0)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 12:40 PM (gGyD3)
Posted by: Y-not hasn't really read the post (hi Andrew!) at March 05, 2012 12:40 PM (5H6zj)
With peach cobbler.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 05, 2012 04:39 PM (jUytm)
with sweet tea.
Posted by: willow at March 05, 2012 12:40 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 05, 2012 12:41 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2012 12:42 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: © Sponge at March 05, 2012 12:42 PM (UK9cE)
@© Sponge:
Of course there's birth control. If not, it's unconstitutional.
A recent poll has Romney at 50%, Cain at 25%* and Chairman Mao at 25%**. Looks like it's going to be a tight race.
* (from the 1-year-old, "nine nine nine")
**(from the cat)
Posted by: egd at March 05, 2012 12:42 PM (XVGEg)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at March 05, 2012 12:43 PM (48wze)
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 05, 2012 12:43 PM (NVu2l)
Posted by: Y-not hasn't really read the post (hi Andrew!) at March 05, 2012 12:43 PM (5H6zj)
By sodomizing young girls who want nothing more than free rubbers and glitter to sprinkle on their vaginas.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 05, 2012 12:44 PM (lVGED)
Posted by: Soona at March 05, 2012 12:44 PM (Zcpr8)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 05, 2012 04:30 PM (jucos)
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I believe that poll was of Adults only - not likely voters. Also, the sample only included 21% republicans. So, that poll means absolutely nothing. It's meaningless.
Posted by: Not an Artist at March 05, 2012 12:44 PM (Lo/3Q)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 05, 2012 12:44 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: Sandy 'Vag' Fluke at March 05, 2012 12:44 PM (3pVQV)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at March 05, 2012 12:45 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2012 12:45 PM (YdQQY)
There are a few schools of thought
-only pick fights you can win, losing a fight makes you look weaker
-surrender to a lesser bully to take on a bigger bully
-make them earn every inch no matter the conflict
I am now quite convinced the "make them fight and bleed for every inch" no matter the situation or how right or wrong you are. I came to this conclusion watching the left hand us our ass on an issue after issue where they are totally out of the mainstream, lying, and against accepted principles. How could they get dealt a pair of two's but still take us on? Simple they ignored everything we said and just started accusing us of hyperbole with a vague sob story on top.
Breitbart taught me in politics even the greatest defense is no substitute for even a crappy offense. We need to start putting an accusation and a face out there one after another. Our current system is we just dump the whole issue at once. Breitbart also tought us to break the issue down to one headline/face a day and push that. Next day while they are trying to research or whatever we are already ramping up the next accusations. This certainly could be exploited to ill intent, as they have thoroughly proved, but our current situation is such that they are up to so much corruption and malfeasance I assure you, we can fully truthfully accuse them of 365 things per year.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at March 05, 2012 12:45 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: tdpwells at March 05, 2012 12:45 PM (puZXK)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 05, 2012 12:46 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: JIm Tressel at March 05, 2012 12:46 PM (DATOZ)
Posted by: Bob_B at March 05, 2012 12:46 PM (pVvkk)
Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2012 12:46 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at March 05, 2012 04:43 PM (48wze)
Who shit!?!?
Oh, hi Mary.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 05, 2012 12:48 PM (UK9cE)
How do they award delegates in Georgia?
On the creek bank, with a bow, while squealing like a pig.
Hey, they're right next to Alabama, which makes them all second cousins, once removed.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, feeling all extra curmudgeony today at March 05, 2012 12:48 PM (d0Tfm)
21 Starz has been showing that 'Willard' movie a lot lately. ....Makes me wonder why.
Posted by: wheatie at March 05, 2012 04:31 PM (dauG/)
Crispin Glover and R. Lee Ermey sadly couldn't save that remake (which was a film that was ripe for a great re-do)
It's a dud of a movie. .....I doubt that Starz has been getting any requests for it....at least, not based on it's cinematic value.
So it's hard not to question the timing of it.....running the 'Willard, king of the rats' movie right now, when we have an R-candidate so close to winning the nomination.
Posted by: wheatie at March 05, 2012 12:48 PM (dauG/)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 12:48 PM (JhLF6)
Posted by: Tjexcite at March 05, 2012 12:49 PM (sk1Ym)
Posted by: Bob Saget at March 05, 2012 12:49 PM (SDkq3)
Posted by: Y-not hasn't really read the post (hi Andrew!) at March 05, 2012 12:50 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Sandy 'Vag' Fluke at March 05, 2012 04:44 PM (3pVQV)
Wouldn't that be "Obama attacks Magnum Mentor" or something like that?
Posted by: © Sponge at March 05, 2012 12:50 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Soothsayer Belushi at March 05, 2012 12:51 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: wheatie at March 05, 2012 12:51 PM (dauG/)
The religious attacks on Bachmann and Santorum are a faint whisper of the banshee screeching to come from the left at Romney and Mormons.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at March 05, 2012 12:51 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 12:51 PM (JhLF6)
Posted by: Bob_B at March 05, 2012 12:52 PM (pVvkk)
Fed judge strike MD anti-gun law as unconstitutional.
quote:
Maryland residents do not have to provide a "good and substantial reason" to legally own a handgun, a federal judge ruled Monday, striking down as unconstitutional the state's requirements for getting a permit
Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2012 12:52 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Soothsayer Belushi at March 05, 2012 12:52 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: Sweater Vest Ricky at March 05, 2012 12:53 PM (F6KtL)
Willard may win some states, but he's not going to get the votes needed to preclude this primary going to the convention.
I do find it nice for a change that my primary vote this time around really means something.
Posted by: Soona at March 05, 2012 12:53 PM (Zcpr8)
Ohio will go to Romney by 3 points +/- 1.2
Tennessee will go (barely) to either or Romney/Santorum. Total tossup.
North Dakota, Idaho, Vermont, Virginia, Massachusetts all go to Romney.
Oklahoma and Alaska go to Santorum
Georgia goes to Gingrich.
Romney will come in second in Georgia, Alaska, and Oklahoma.
Posted by: CAC at March 05, 2012 12:54 PM (4enjT)
Posted by: Y-not hasn't really read the post (hi Andrew!) at March 05, 2012 04:50 PM (5H6zj)
Not a problem. Snap-on make better tools anyway. Expensive, but better. The opposite of government: Expensive and useless.
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 05, 2012 12:54 PM (NVu2l)
Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2012 12:55 PM (YdQQY)
"Well, it's good to see everyone choosing sides as we crumble into inevitable civil war. Grab a sword."
It is starting to smell of 1860 out there, isn't it?
Posted by: Jaws at March 05, 2012 12:55 PM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 05, 2012 12:55 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Sweater Vest Ricky at March 05, 2012 04:53 PM (F6KtL
I'm going to refer to her as "Dynah-Moe Humm" from now on....
Posted by: model_1066 at March 05, 2012 12:55 PM (YbQJm)
Posted by: Y-not hasn't really read the post (hi Andrew!) at March 05, 2012 12:55 PM (5H6zj)
Slathered in Chili, because they are heathens.
Posted by: garrett at March 05, 2012 04:46 PM (mGCrH)
Correction. Slathered in Cincinnati chili.
With beans, onions and shredded cheese if you want to get exotic.
Posted by: ErikW at March 05, 2012 12:55 PM (RKOob)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 05, 2012 12:56 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: Y-not hasn't really read the post (hi Andrew!) at March 05, 2012 12:57 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: CAC at March 05, 2012 12:57 PM (4enjT)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 05, 2012 04:55 PM (i6RpT)
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Failures making their last political stand. A bit funny that it's over a slut's condums.
Posted by: Soona at March 05, 2012 12:57 PM (Zcpr8)
Posted by: Vitalis of Assisi at March 05, 2012 12:58 PM (/ZZCn)
> The delegate math: In Ohio, most of the delegates (4
Source-http://tinyurl.com/89dmjut
Posted by: Miss80s at March 05, 2012 12:58 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 05, 2012 12:59 PM (jUytm)
Maryland residents do not have to provide a "good and substantial
reason" to legally own a handgun, a federal judge ruled Monday, striking
down as unconstitutional the state's requirements for getting a permit
Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2012 04:52 PM (YdQQY)
Rest assured, it will be appealed and the law will stand until it goes before the SC.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 05, 2012 12:59 PM (UK9cE)
are awarded winner-take-all by Congressional district."
Posted by: Miss80s at March 05, 2012 12:59 PM (d6QMz)
Let that sink in.
In the Marist/NBC poll with a D+12 sample, Obama can muster a 45-45 approval rating. Governor Kasich is underwater 40-43...in a D+12 poll.
Posted by: CAC at March 05, 2012 01:00 PM (4enjT)
The only reason you need.
Second Amendment to the Constitution.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Posted by: McLovin at March 05, 2012 01:01 PM (j0IcY)
Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2012 01:01 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2012 01:01 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Y-not hasn't really read the post (hi Andrew!) at March 05, 2012 04:57 PM (5H6zj)
After at least six years of practice, what do you think the odds of that are? This is as good as he gets. His only skill is writing checks for character assassins.
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 05, 2012 01:01 PM (NVu2l)
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The delegate math is wide open for ALL the candidates right now.
Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2012 01:02 PM (YdQQY)
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Then so be it, let's concentrate on whipping the scoamft.
Posted by: real joe at March 05, 2012 01:03 PM (R1J04)
Posted by: Y-not hasn't really read the post (hi Andrew!) at March 05, 2012 01:03 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Cast Iron at March 05, 2012 05:01 PM (EL+OC)
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That's why I said that I'm waiting for the Voters' Poll to come out tomorrow.
Posted by: Soona at March 05, 2012 01:03 PM (Zcpr8)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 05, 2012 01:03 PM (jUytm)
@89
I believe you. I really think the MSM is doing their dirty work to cover up voter disgust with the Obama Administration and trying their best to paint a glowing picture towards Obama. There are way too many people mad everywhere in the country regarding the economy, people being out of the workforce for too long and not counted anymore, food inflation, gas prices, COLA, etc. And yet the Marxist in Chief wants to transform the country radically with his cabinet willing to do so as well. The energy secretary doesn't care if gas is 5, 6, 7 or even 15 dollars a gallon, he wants people off gas right now.
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 01:03 PM (zObcw)
is that slang for vomit?
Posted by: model_1066 at March 05, 2012 04:56 PM (YbQJm)
Depending on where you go, it could be.
Posted by: ErikW at March 05, 2012 01:03 PM (RKOob)
None of these guys excite me, but the one poll that matters to me takes place in November.
Posted by: Keith Arnold at March 05, 2012 01:03 PM (Jdtsu)
Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2012 01:04 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Stuck Mojo at March 05, 2012 01:04 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 01:05 PM (zObcw)
"A longer primary is good for Romney. He definitely needs to sharpen his skills with the media and learn how to engage with voters."
Mitt's been running for president for how many years now? And he still needs more practice with the press? He'll never connect with voters, he's just McLame II. I don't know who he has as his political advisory team, but he'd do well to fire them all and hire a few of us Morons.
Of course, Neut could see if he could find and capture the "Firey Newt the Peacemaker" personality: call off the bullshit attack ads, publicly declare a truce with the other two and a half candidates, start going after the leftards in the MFM and focus on Obama the rest of the time.
We (as a nation) actually are fed up with the current situation. The SCOAMF's gonna get his little skinny ass handed to him in November, I don't care what the rest of the media says.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, feeling all extra curmudgeony today at March 05, 2012 01:05 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: spypeach at March 05, 2012 01:05 PM (hyUyU)
>>The delegate math is wide open for ALL the candidates right now.
I''ll tell ya what else is wide open for all delegates : my vagina!
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 05, 2012 01:05 PM (lVGED)
Posted by: Keith Arnold at March 05, 2012 05:03 PM (Jdtsu)
That's where I am, and why I want the primaries over with. Kicking out SCOAMF is the priority and holding the House/retaking the Senate is a close second.
Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2012 01:05 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 05, 2012 01:05 PM (i6RpT)
In the Marist/NBC poll with a D+12 sample, Obama can muster a 45-45 approval rating. Governor Kasich is underwater 40-43...in a D+12 poll.
Posted by: CAC at March 05, 2012 05:00 PM (4enjT)
Low republican enthusiasm, so that means you don't count them? Let me see, does that mean they have high democrat enthusiasm for a republican primary?
Posted by: robtr at March 05, 2012 01:06 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 05, 2012 01:06 PM (i6RpT)
Really, really, really telling that of the 10 firms to release a number for OH in the last 48 hours, ONE of them, only one, released general election numbers and/or Presidential approval rating info.
Where are all the other general elect numbers for Ohio?
Posted by: CAC at March 05, 2012 01:07 PM (4enjT)
Posted by: Y-not hasn't really read the post (hi Andrew!) at March 05, 2012 01:07 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 05, 2012 05:05 PM (i6RpT)
Best teams money can buy.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 05, 2012 01:07 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 01:07 PM (zObcw)
Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2012 05:04 PM (YdQQY)
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I wouldn't make any wagers on that if I were you.
Posted by: Soona at March 05, 2012 01:07 PM (Zcpr8)
Posted by: wooga at March 05, 2012 01:07 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2012 01:08 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2012 01:08 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Y-not still for Newt at March 05, 2012 01:09 PM (5H6zj)
@ 101
Of course Chu wants $15 gas so the SCOAMF might have a chance come Nov. That way conservatives can't afford to get to the poles while the left buses in how ever many vote they need
Posted by: Texas Fluke at March 05, 2012 01:09 PM (NrtjZ)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 01:09 PM (zObcw)
Posted by: Fluck at March 05, 2012 01:10 PM (OhYCU)
Fed judge strike MD anti-gun law as unconstitutional.
quote:
Maryland residents do not have to provide a "good and substantial
reason" to legally own a handgun, a federal judge ruled Monday, striking
down as unconstitutional the state's requirements for getting a permit
Posted by: Vic at March 05, 2012 04:52 PM (YdQQY)
These asshole Dems here will find a way to screw us in the end.
Posted by: Hedgehog at March 05, 2012 01:10 PM (3jGS1)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 05:07 PM (zObcw)
HEY now!!!! Number 1 seeds make it to the championship every year, don't they?
My Picks: Duke, North Carolina, Kansas, Kentucky
Duke / Kentucky
Duke
Mark it, bitches. I iz basketball JONES!!!
Posted by: Barky O'Stumblefuck at March 05, 2012 01:10 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Y-not hasn't really read the post (hi Andrew!) at March 05, 2012 04:50 PM (5H6zj)
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Amazing. I thought Sears went out of business long ago.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 05, 2012 01:11 PM (Usk3+)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 05, 2012 01:11 PM (jUytm)
The media is pushing the low enthusiasm meme so they can justify skewed polls.
The Seattle Times was saying voters weren't enthused on the morning of the primary here. Those unenthused voters turned out 4 times more Saturday than they did 4 years ago.
Posted by: robtr at March 05, 2012 01:11 PM (MtwBb)
"A citizen may not be required to offer a good and substantial reason why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The right‘s existence is all the reason he needs.”
Posted by: real joe at March 05, 2012 01:11 PM (R1J04)
Posted by: Y-not still for Newt at March 05, 2012 01:11 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 01:12 PM (zObcw)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 05, 2012 04:31 PM (/kI1Q)
On the donk side, Twitch Strickland comes out, makes a few assinine comments and then pisses his pants. The Repubs are slightly more refined.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 05, 2012 01:12 PM (wwLT2)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 05, 2012 01:14 PM (jUytm)
Careful, robtr.
The primary itself was scrapped this year, all there was for Rs to vote in was the caucus.
That said, caucus voters are typically only your most passionate, those most enthuised to vote. That 4x the number from 2008 showed up to sit in a boring caucus still says a lot.
Posted by: CAC at March 05, 2012 01:14 PM (4enjT)
Posted by: nickless at March 05, 2012 01:15 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Y-not still for Newt at March 05, 2012 01:15 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 05, 2012 01:15 PM (jUytm)
Y-not,
Sorry only information I have is about the first wife. Wish I could help, it would be nice if Newt won Maryland, my daughter turned 18 a few weeks ago and has decided to vote for Newt in the Primary. I haven't said to much to her about who to vote for, except to say that she needs to vote for anyone but Obama in November.
Posted by: spypeach at March 05, 2012 01:15 PM (hyUyU)
he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The right‘s existence is
all the reason he needs.”
Posted by: real joe at March 05, 2012 05:11 PM (R1J04)
And what about my Gaia-given right to subsidized birth control, huh? The constitution guarantees me the pursuit of sluttieness!
Posted by: Sandra "Round-Heeled Woman" Fluke at March 05, 2012 01:15 PM (RD7QR)
Newt has pretty much done that already. Very limited references to the other candidates. Most of his speech now focuses on his policy proposals and attacks on Obama.
Posted by: Y-not still for Newt at March 05, 2012 05:11 PM (5H6zj)
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But alas. Any criticism of the SCOAMT is, at least, an indirect criticism of Romney.
Posted by: Soona at March 05, 2012 01:15 PM (Zcpr8)
-hopefully further evolve the eventual winner and give more people a chance to vote
it also
-Spends lots of limited money/attention/anger/time/focus against other republicans and leaves the party more divided into factions with ever deepening levels of grievance, alienation, and disillusionment.
You can still find disillusioned Hillary voters and with Obama they didn't have any doubt he would have the same agenda and gusto in passing said agenda. Or that money, time, anger would be in tight supply. Just simply that women should come before blacks turn in the white house.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at March 05, 2012 01:15 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: nickless at March 05, 2012 05:15 PM (MMC8r)
If there's a Wal-Mart within a 10-mile radius it will stay like that until it closes.
Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2012 01:17 PM (RD7QR)
The primary itself was scrapped this year, all there was for Rs to vote in was the caucus.
That said, caucus voters are typically only your most passionate, those most enthuised to vote. That 4x the number from 2008 showed up to sit in a boring caucus still says a lot.
Posted by: CAC at March 05, 2012 05:14 PM (4enjT)
CAC, we have voting by mail here. You have to be enthusiastic to go stand in line for an hour to caucas and then caucas for two hours.
Posted by: robtr at March 05, 2012 01:18 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Sears Spokesman at March 05, 2012 01:19 PM (ggRof)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 01:19 PM (zObcw)
"Newt has pretty much done that already. Very limited references to the other candidates. Most of his speech now focuses on his policy proposals and attacks on Obama."
Good on him. I've backing off the political throttle a bit lately, so I haven't paid quite as much attention to everything as I did a few months ago. And I was pretty rabid about it, much to B'Gal's consternation. Stopped watching the debates after about the fourth one, too many leftard hosts for any kind of accurate questions, and the format sucked too, no time to flesh out a cohesive answer.
I'm trying to figure out how to capture some of AB's essence if I can and bottle that on my little blog. I'll start with a T-shirt from IOTW...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, feeling all extra curmudgeony today at March 05, 2012 01:19 PM (d0Tfm)
Okay, by rules-of-the-blog it's over 100 comments so I can go OT.
As a response to the left's "ban Rush" petition Dana Loesch has created a Whitehouse. gov petition site to creaete a petition asking the administration to respect our constiutional religious liberties.
Address is in nic. (I hope)
Posted by: Polliwog at March 05, 2012 01:19 PM (zmm1+)
Posted by: Y-not still for Newt at March 05, 2012 01:20 PM (5H6zj)
^^^
Not buy much. Kasich comes out and starts talking about his 'hot wife' and imitating people w/Parkinson's.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 05, 2012 01:20 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: nickless at March 05, 2012 01:21 PM (MMC8r)
Any words on the WSJ/NBC oversampled poll?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 05, 2012 01:21 PM (qzWAE)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 05, 2012 01:21 PM (jUytm)
@147,
Actually it wasn't like that. They were no different from other state caucuses. The mail-in votes were only for the primary which they scrapped to save money and did a caucus system instead.
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 01:21 PM (zObcw)
Posted by: Y-not at March 05, 2012 01:22 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: © Sponge
You must be thinking of the Kentucky Wildcats.
I, personally, have been robo-called twice over the weekend by the Santorum campaign. I know it is fashionable (and true) to say the Santorum has been slagged by Romney, but Santorums' robocalls have pretty much slagged Romney. I don't take any of it too seriously, as we know who the real target is.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...... at March 05, 2012 01:22 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: deepelemblues at March 05, 2012 01:22 PM (lFU4D)
I was in a K-Mart this morning and noted the empty floorspace and shelves. It had a Soviet feel to it.
Posted by: nickless at March 05, 2012 05:15 PM (MMC8r)
If there's a Wal-Mart within a 10-mile radius it will stay like that until it closes.
And K-mart did it to themselves. For several years their policy, I was told, was to build any new K-Marts as close to a Wal-mart as they could because Wal-mart spent money on optimizing location.
Posted by: Polliwog at March 05, 2012 01:23 PM (zmm1+)
Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna at March 05, 2012 01:24 PM (GTbGH)
I don't get it. Won't the winner be whoever Diebold says it is?
How will who votes how matter a single solitary damn?
The only poll that matters is Diebold.
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 05, 2012 01:25 PM (NVu2l)
Actually it wasn't like that. They were no different from other state caucuses. The mail-in votes were only for the primary which they scrapped to save money and did a caucus system instead.
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 05:21 PM (zObcw)
I know that, I live here. My point is that comparing a caucas here to voting is a false comparison. Voting here takes no effort. A caucas is a 4 hour investment in time.
Posted by: robtr at March 05, 2012 01:25 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: caunotaucarius at March 05, 2012 01:26 PM (SHvfC)
@166 Well I must have gotten the wrong impression. My mother went to the caucus in Clark County and she spent about the same amount of hours at the caucus.
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 01:27 PM (zObcw)
Posted by: cherry at March 05, 2012 01:27 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 05, 2012 01:28 PM (1Jaio)
How will who votes how matter a single solitary damn?
The only poll that matters is Diebold.
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 05, 2012 05:25 PM (NVu2l)
U gone troll bro?
Posted by: Mætenloch at March 05, 2012 01:29 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 05, 2012 01:30 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: Jimmah at March 05, 2012 01:30 PM (Gbec2)
@173
I have no idea. Maybe it was in certain locations where they were full and had to tell them to go to another caucus location.
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 01:30 PM (zObcw)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 01:31 PM (zObcw)
Ohio will vote Romney. I'm IN Ohio, and I feel the stupid all around me.
Posted by: Jimmah at March 05, 2012 05:30 PM (Gbec2)
Where at, if you don't mind me asking?
Posted by: ErikW at March 05, 2012 01:32 PM (RKOob)
Posted by: Y-not at March 05, 2012 01:32 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Mætenloch at March 05, 2012 05:29 PM (pAlYe)
I'm feeling particularly nihilistic today. Maybe it's the gin.
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 05, 2012 01:32 PM (NVu2l)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose finally remembers why he's here at March 05, 2012 01:33 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 05, 2012 05:20 PM (pLTLS)
That's pretty funny and not inaccurate; and I *like* Kasich.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 05, 2012 01:33 PM (wwLT2)
Posted by: Jimmah at March 05, 2012 01:33 PM (Gbec2)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 05, 2012 05:30 PM (jUytm)
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And the SCOAMT knows this too. The image of his base must remain as benevolent as possible. Besides, I pretty sure the NATO conference will bring out it's share of nutbags.
Posted by: Soona at March 05, 2012 01:34 PM (Zcpr8)
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at March 05, 2012 01:34 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 05, 2012 01:36 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 05:31 PM (zObcw)
You wrong me. I just can't stand the bot that is Romney. And I dislike character assassination by either side.
If your candidate has to win that way, I predict you will be unhappy with even a win.
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 05, 2012 01:36 PM (NVu2l)
And K-mart did it to themselves. For several years their policy, I was told,was to build any new K-Marts as close to a Wal-mart as they could because Wal-mart spent money on optimizing location.
Posted by: Polliwog at March 05, 2012 05:23 PM (zmm1+)
Having Rosie O' as their spokesman several years ago didn't help at all. I actually began driving out of my way to Target and WalMart to avoid giving her any of my money.
Posted by: Big McLargeHuge at March 05, 2012 01:37 PM (2anai)
Romneys a good fair weather philly, Newts the mudder. I still think the closest parallel of what to expect from Romney is Bush 41... minus the CIA background but plus a religion that media can keep radioactive.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at March 05, 2012 01:37 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: steevy at March 05, 2012 01:39 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: caunotaucarius at March 05, 2012 05:26 PM (SHvfC)
Never been there but I now seen the Grand Tetons.
Posted by: YIKES! at March 05, 2012 01:40 PM (2TRSa)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 05:38 PM (zObcw)
You know, I find that unsurprising.
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 05, 2012 01:41 PM (NVu2l)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 01:42 PM (zObcw)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at March 05, 2012 01:43 PM (jTVGC)
West-o-Toledo
Posted by: Jimmah at March 05, 2012 05:33 PM (Gbec2)
I was just curious, I know little about that part of the state.
I was going to make a joke about how it feels to be an Ohioan that lives in occupied Michigan territory but since I don't know you, I figured I better hold off on that one!
Posted by: ErikW at March 05, 2012 01:44 PM (RKOob)
ErikW
Yes, I'm in Fulton County, which hasn't voted for a democrat since John Kennedy, and before that was sometime in the 1800's. If they go Romney, that would probably mean he's the conservative choice overall. Of course the polls probably already show that.
Posted by: Jimmah at March 05, 2012 01:47 PM (Gbec2)
But it would be surprising for Santorum to have such a lead among those voters when Romney is the only one with an organized effort to get them.
Posted by: Adjoran at March 05, 2012 01:48 PM (VfmLu)
WooooHoooo!!!!
Posted by: Paladin at March 05, 2012 01:48 PM (ycm4Q)
That was the "dying-of-cancer" surgery, wasn't it?
Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna at March 05, 2012 01:50 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 05:42 PM (zObcw)
I'm Main St., not Wall St. Romney won't change a single damn thing in my world.
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 05, 2012 01:51 PM (NVu2l)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 01:52 PM (zObcw)
Posted by: Greg at March 05, 2012 01:52 PM (J3Ovp)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 01:54 PM (zObcw)
Posted by: Y-not at March 05, 2012 01:56 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 05:52 PM (zObcw)
I want a true conservative. The remaining four are not working. Doesn't mean I'm going to support the most devious, and ruthless of the four left. I'm not that dead inside.
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 05, 2012 01:56 PM (NVu2l)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at March 05, 2012 01:56 PM (jTVGC)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 01:57 PM (zObcw)
"Having Rosie O' as their spokesman several years ago didn't help at all."
Yeah, that wouldn't help. The issue with being next to a Wal-mart was it re-inforced the( accurate) impression that K-mart had less selection and higher prices. Apparently TPTB hadn't thought through their strategy at all.
Posted by: Polliwog at March 05, 2012 01:58 PM (zmm1+)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at March 05, 2012 01:59 PM (jTVGC)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 05:57 PM (zObcw)
I've heard it all before. I'm still not going to support the most vile, backstabber with lots of organization. The more dbags in congress that support him just makes me despise congressional Rs more. Go figure.
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 05, 2012 02:01 PM (NVu2l)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at March 05, 2012 02:03 PM (jTVGC)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 02:03 PM (zObcw)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 06:03 PM (zObcw)
Love it, or leave it, huh?
I think that may be my only choice.
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 05, 2012 02:09 PM (NVu2l)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 02:10 PM (zObcw)
Coburn supports Romney. That does not make me like Romney. That makes me feel hopeless for the USA.
Who the fuck thought that was a good idea? Why not just disolve the party because it is a corrupt pos? Fuck me.
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 05, 2012 02:22 PM (NVu2l)
I guess we'll all have to learn British because the GOP is going full Tory with Mitt Romney.
Posted by: Sad Dad at March 05, 2012 02:23 PM (3PHCO)
Newt comes the closest to being my candidate of choice. He's smart, he's grounded in our nation's history, and he could wipe the floor with Obama in any debate. But----as we've seen, he tends to be swayed by his own brilliance and he goes off the rails. At this point, voting for him is like tossing my vote away.
Santorum, on the the other hand, spent his entire presentation the other day in Ohio dealing with social issues. Not Obama. Not the economy. Not what he would do to bring the deficit under control, but basically reproductive issues.
Romney is a nice guy, but how is engineering a prototype for Obamacare a good thing when it comes to being a conservative?
All three of our candidates have been so busy clobbering each other that they haven't presented a coherent plan to balance the budget and reduce the size of government.
By now, I should be able to repeat their plan to right the ship of state. I can't.
I'll vote for one and then support them because another Obama term isn't even a choice.
But I keep thinking, at this important juncture in time, we've been presented with second tier candidates when history demands our best.
Anyone care to make an impassioned case for either Gingrich, Santorum, or Romney to help me make pulling the lever for one or the other a bit more palatable....
Posted by: theMachiavellian at March 05, 2012 02:32 PM (pOYRF)
theMachiavellian ,
I'm voting for Newt because I believe the bigger battle this election will be against the media, and I feel Newt is the only one that has shown that he knows how to handle the media, and not let them get away with false premises.
Posted by: spypeach at March 05, 2012 02:37 PM (hyUyU)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 02:41 PM (et2m1)
Posted by: i like anchors 2012 at March 05, 2012 02:42 PM (LCZ3l)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 05, 2012 03:09 PM (et2m1)
>>>I think that may be my only choice.
It's pretty obvious you're a liberal troll. You do realize the "Main Street vs. Wall Street" thing is classic Democratic messaging, right?
Whatever you think your goal here is (sowing FUD, I assume), just know that we see through you.
Posted by: Jeff B. supports SMOD/Coldcuts '12 at March 05, 2012 03:16 PM (hIWe1)
Other than that, in an American context it *should* mean rolling the Progressive project back to 1865. So, no slavery (slavery's for royalists) but also no 14th Amendment.
This is obviously an idealist platform. For instance, I think there was an income tax in the late 1860s, even though it was later found unConstitutional. I don't think there was a gold standard in the late 1860s, even though the palaeos would want one. People on the (local) government dole could vote, even those the palaeos would want to restrict the franchise.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at March 05, 2012 03:22 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Jeff B. supports SMOD/Coldcuts '12 at March 05, 2012 07:16 PM (hIWe1)
Don't you think that is kind of silly when Wall St. backed Obama so heavily, and made billions selling MBS made possible by Dem CRA and Clinton signing the death of Glass-Steagal?
If you think Wall St. is conservative, you need to look again, unless you think the above plus crony capitalism is conservative. In that case consider me a wild eyed radical.
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 05, 2012 03:36 PM (NVu2l)
Posted by: Jerec at March 05, 2012 07:29 PM (60GaT)
Can you point me at such a paleocon who has done worse than pointing out the Jewish vote for the commie Dems by 70/30?
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 05, 2012 03:42 PM (NVu2l)
Being against neocons, though, is fine. Because the neocons, like McCain and Graham and the various Bushes, are still out there. I contrast neocons with Zionists; Zionists are the good guys IMO. The neocons were cheerleading the Arab Spring especially in Libya - which is increasingly looking like a disaster.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at March 05, 2012 03:44 PM (QTHTd)
Heh. In one thread I've been accused of being a liberal troll, and a paleocon.
Could it be I'm just an independent thinker willing to call bullshit on hypocrisy wherever I see it?
Nah. I must be a troll.
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 05, 2012 03:46 PM (NVu2l)
Earlier someone was commenting that palaeocons hold grudges against neocons. An ordinary person (or, well, a weirdo like me) would break it down to first-principles on what palaeos and neos actually stand for. Then he'd look at why a palaeo might not approve of a neo.
And then along comes a palaeo to give HIS side - and it's the OHNOEZ FIFTH COLUMN meme.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at March 05, 2012 03:48 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at March 05, 2012 07:48 PM (QTHTd)
And maybe it was an honest question. What paleos are dumping on jews?
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at March 05, 2012 03:55 PM (NVu2l)
And the differences between your average Buchananite paleocon and your average stormfront retard are night and day. Compare the comments on Moldbug's early pieces with the people who hang out there now to see the difference.
Posted by: kartoffel at March 05, 2012 03:56 PM (OgNv0)
HAH!
Cicilline is now trailing the republican badly in RI-1 in polling, down 16 pts to the guy he beat by 6 in 2010.
A few days ago, Cook moved the race to tossup from likely D.
So much for the Dem plans to advance in the House. If they are losing seats like RI-1 which barely went Dem in 2010...
Posted by: CAC at March 05, 2012 04:15 PM (4enjT)
Posted by: Greg at March 05, 2012 04:29 PM (J3Ovp)
Posted by: Hoover at March 05, 2012 05:41 PM (sD7bS)
Santorum sucks. I'd rather have Newt than Santorum. Go Newt and/or Romney!
Santorum should drop out and go away. I cannot believe conservatives are so gullible. the dude is a union sell out.
Posted by: rectal exam at March 05, 2012 06:18 PM (O7ksG)
If we go down with Newt - at least we go down in a blaze of glory. His smack down of the liberal media is something to behold and should be the baseline example for all conservative reaction to liberal bullshit questions.
Posted by: rectal exam at March 05, 2012 06:22 PM (O7ksG)
Posted by: KLP at March 05, 2012 06:25 PM (8HhF2)
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You said there's be no math on this blog.
That includes numbers.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, feeling all extra curmudgeony today at March 05, 2012 12:28 PM (d0Tfm)