April 24, 2012
— CAC ABOVE THE POST UPDATE- DEMOCRATIC TURNOUT SHORT 20% OF EXPECTED 175K IN PHILADELPHIA, 2000: 121K 2004: 133K 2012: 144K(up only 9%)
PENNSYLVANIA**CALLED FOR ROMNEY AT 20:30**
PROPERTY OF ALBANY AND BLOOMBERG
CONNECTICUT, SUBURB OF NEW YORK CITY **CALLED FOR ROMNEY AT 20:30**
HIDEOUS CHUNK OF DELMARVA THAT DEFIES REASON WITH ITS STATEHOOD**CALLED FOR ROMNEY AT 20:25**
NEW ENGLAND SWAMPLAND**CALLED FOR ROMNEY AT 20:30**
Only state even remotely "contested" is Delaware, if the Gingrich campaign can stop chuckling while saying it.
All five should go to Romney, and comfortably. Turnout will be down in all five as the primary is essentially over.
The Democratic primary fight in PA between Critz and Altmire in the 12th district could be interesting to watch though.
*Quick little announcement for you morons and lurkers: I am in the process of working on a new method of reporting election results focusing solely on margins, simplifying the burning question of who is ahead and where in tight races. I will be kicking that off with the Wisconsin Recall on June 5th. The method is easy: I get results directly from county sources and report them here. No need to click through AP, CNN, and a dozen other sites. All the numbers you would need to know, who is doing what where, all on the same page, updated minute by minute. Just refresh the page and enjoy. My goal is to out-project and out-report the biggies (like reporting Waukesha's results on the night of the primary right here on AOSHQ ahead of several major news sources). About time my ADD became useful...
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Posted by: DavidW at April 24, 2012 04:11 PM (VY2Ce)
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 24, 2012 04:13 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 24, 2012 04:14 PM (hIWe1)
Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2012 04:14 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: NewBrunswicker at April 24, 2012 04:15 PM (triNw)
Pennsylvania
Colony of New York City
Suburb of New York City
Accident of Colonial History
Suburb of Boston
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 24, 2012 04:15 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Greg at April 24, 2012 04:16 PM (sXjAm)
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 24, 2012 04:17 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Patriarca crime family at April 24, 2012 04:17 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 24, 2012 04:18 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Will Pay ace $100 To Ban The Troll at April 24, 2012 04:20 PM (8beAV)
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 24, 2012 04:20 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: NewBrunswicker at April 24, 2012 04:21 PM (triNw)
Posted by: patriarca crime family at April 24, 2012 04:21 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Will Pay ace $100 To Ban The Troll at April 24, 2012 04:21 PM (8beAV)
Posted by: Delaware ( tar on the beach ) at April 24, 2012 04:21 PM (Dll6b)
Thar, I fixed the state names to be proper for the lulz.
Posted by: CAC at April 24, 2012 04:21 PM (ivJTD)
Went to vote this afternoon and there was a small line,much to my surprise. The weather was not a factor.
Talking to some voters after, a surprising amount of enthusiasm was there. Maybe there will be a good turnout in the general after all.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 24, 2012 04:22 PM (SAMxH)
Heh, I have a friend on facebook who has been piping off about what a huge success today has been for Ron Paul, and how his plan is strategy is going exactly as he wanted it to. Then he says that Romney is totally sweating it right now.
I swear the hardcore Ron Paul people are as out of touch as Obama supporters. Ron Paul!!!1
Posted by: dan-O at April 24, 2012 04:22 PM (sWycd)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Will Pay ace $100 To Ban The Troll at April 24, 2012 04:22 PM (8beAV)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Liberterian For Romney at April 24, 2012 04:24 PM (8beAV)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 24, 2012 04:25 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: patriarca crime family at April 24, 2012 04:26 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: patriarca crime family at April 24, 2012 04:27 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Jimbo at April 24, 2012 04:29 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 24, 2012 08:24 PM (hXJOG)
Drive I-95 seeing the wrecks every day. RI has the worst drivers in the US, bar none. And terrible road design, to add to the wonder.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 24, 2012 04:29 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: patriarca crime family at April 24, 2012 04:29 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: NewBrunswicker at April 24, 2012 04:30 PM (triNw)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Liberterian For Romney at April 24, 2012 04:30 PM (8beAV)
I can see giving them a Congresscritter. But 2 senators? No fucking way.
Posted by: Jimbo at April 24, 2012 04:31 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: patriarca crime family at April 24, 2012 04:32 PM (i6RpT)
Irongrampa? What time did you vote? Did you note or ask how many had turned out so far? Hubs and I voted at 2:00 and only 17 had voted by that time. But the precinct lady said they only opened the doors at noon, so I'm hoping there was a better turnout after folks got off work.
Posted by: NIPPP at April 24, 2012 04:32 PM (0oYHO)
CAC:
From your PA map thread:
You can color Luzerne, Carbon and Monroe Counties blue, too.
PA is the 2nd most elderly state in the country. There's no way it's going red this year.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 24, 2012 04:33 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Mass Drivers at April 24, 2012 08:31 PM (hXJOG)
Yeah ... the Rhode Islanders used to make jokes about how bad the drivers in Mass were and I used to laugh my ass off ... because the Rhode Island drivers are still the worst and they don't even know it!
And they are terrific rubber-neckers, too. World-class. Kinda goes together, I guess.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 24, 2012 04:33 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: patriarca crime family at April 24, 2012 04:35 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 24, 2012 08:33 PM (7+pP9)
Eh... Monroe has a couple state reps that are GOP. Toomey just got elected. The Gov is GOP... It is possible for the GOP to win statewide here ya know.
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 24, 2012 04:36 PM (Aaxiu)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 24, 2012 04:36 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Liberterian For Romney at April 24, 2012 04:37 PM (8beAV)
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 24, 2012 08:36 PM (hXJOG)
In Rhode Island they use their turn signals as offensive weapons. The usual is to leave them on for miles and then suddenly turn the other direction, but there are lots of variations.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 24, 2012 04:37 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: DC in Towson at April 24, 2012 04:37 PM (I/cLr)
Posted by: Jimbo at April 24, 2012 04:38 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 04:39 PM (i6RpT)
Shortly after noon, so I may have caught people voting on their lunch hour. The ladies said it was steady from the onset, no lines, but just one after the other.
I asked and they estimated around 60. What really struck me was the enthusiasm, did NOT expect that.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 24, 2012 04:40 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Liberterian For Romney at April 24, 2012 08:37 PM (8beAV)
Yeah, outside of fraud, I don't see how Obama takes PA. I mean, Barletta won the house race up near Scranton for cryin' out loud. This cycle is not the same as the last 20 years by a long way.
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 24, 2012 04:40 PM (Aaxiu)
My cousin moved to Delaware ( "New Ark") and became a Baptist minister, although raised as an ( Irish ) Catholic. --- parents mortified, but came around.
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 24, 2012 04:40 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Barack O'Humble at April 24, 2012 04:41 PM (36HVu)
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 24, 2012 04:41 PM (L7hol)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 04:42 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 24, 2012 04:42 PM (Dll6b)
So are you libertarian for Romney out of the gate or based on what is left?
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 24, 2012 04:42 PM (Aaxiu)
Posted by: I do what I want at April 24, 2012 04:43 PM (a4CUi)
Posted by: Jean at April 24, 2012 04:44 PM (46qC3)
Posted by: Jimbo at April 24, 2012 08:43 PM (O3R/2)
When we say they do, pal.
Posted by: Rocco Baggadonuts, OFFICIAL Poll Closer at April 24, 2012 04:44 PM (Aaxiu)
Jersey Turnpike McDonald's charge $13 for premium cigarettes. It was at that moment I switched to $2 "cigar" packs.
A whole pack of smokes for $2 even in Mass. You just know it's made of wood chips and crystal meth.
Posted by: Truman North at April 24, 2012 04:44 PM (I2LwF)
Shortly after noon, so I may have caught people voting on their lunch hour. The ladies said it was steady from the onset, no lines, but just one after the other.
I asked and they estimated around 60. What really struck me was the enthusiasm, did NOT expect that.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 24, 2012 08:40 PM (SAMxH)
Thanks for the reply. Yes, the lady seemed pleased here as well. But only 17? Granted we are in a suburban village, but I thought surely there would be more than that by 2:00 pm. I'm anxious to find out the voter turnout for our village of about 4000.
Posted by: NIPPP at April 24, 2012 04:45 PM (0oYHO)
Serious question here...
Now that Romney has it pretty much sown up... does he start to run to the middle? ie... does he pull a McCain and talk Conservative during the primary, but go squishy in the General?
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2012 04:45 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Jimbo at April 24, 2012 04:45 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Liberterian For Romney at April 24, 2012 04:46 PM (8beAV)
Eh... Monroe has a couple state reps that are GOP. Toomey just got elected. The Gov is GOP... It is possible for the GOP to win statewide here ya know.
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 24, 2012 08:36 PM (Aaxiu)
Possible, but remotely so. The Governor's office switches every eight years so that's not a good indicator. I hope and pray that the 2010 wave is still riding high.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 24, 2012 04:46 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2012 08:45 PM (lZBBB)
I hope not, it shouldn't really be possible. Any more to the "center" and he'll be sniffing Obama's crotch.
Posted by: Rocco Baggadonuts, OFFICIAL Poll Closer at April 24, 2012 04:46 PM (Aaxiu)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 04:47 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2012 04:47 PM (3Zo6I)
87 In other news, if the "War on Terror" is over, can the TSA be disbanded?
Or at least make them stop fondling children and harrassing grannys. .....A good first step would be to de-unionize them.
Posted by: wheatie at April 24, 2012 04:48 PM (O4AQQ)
I wonder. Would the Mafia be angry with me?
Posted by: Jimbo at April 24, 2012 04:48 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 24, 2012 08:41 PM (L7hol)
Aww...God blem 'em! I know the feeling!
Posted by: NIPPP at April 24, 2012 04:48 PM (0oYHO)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 04:48 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 08:47 PM (i6RpT)
Yeah... but thats what Navy Chief Petty Officers are for... train those puppys so they don't damage the fleet...
Posted by: Old School Swabby at April 24, 2012 04:49 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 24, 2012 08:46 PM (7+pP9)
Well, both houses of the legislature are also GOP. Hey, I'm not saying we should soap our backs, just yet, but there is no reason to think that a good campaign can't take PA for the GOP. I mean, the state GOP is full of numbnuts and have been doing ok by hardly trying.
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 24, 2012 04:49 PM (Aaxiu)
Posted by: USS Diversity at April 24, 2012 04:49 PM (vpe0k)
for Obamacare, what a choice.
Posted by: Cthluthu at April 24, 2012 04:50 PM (tplAg)
Posted by: Jimbo at April 24, 2012 08:48 PM (O3R/2)
Nope, they'll steal them from you same as they would a regular shipment.
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 24, 2012 04:51 PM (Aaxiu)
----for a while I thought I had some of the youngest Chiefs in the Navy in my classes
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 24, 2012 04:52 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Ombudsman at April 24, 2012 04:52 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: John Murtha at April 24, 2012 04:54 PM (IoNBC)
Posted by: John Murtha at April 24, 2012 08:54 PM (IoNBC)
Karma's a bitch, ABSCAM Boy
Posted by: Ombudsman at April 24, 2012 04:55 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Ombudsman at April 24, 2012 08:53 PM (AxHOT)
For a Mormon edition of a Stepford Wife. I could be impressive if I were straight and found a multi-millionaire to marry. Or if Rosie O'Donnell would return my phone calls. C'mon, Rosie! Please Call! I miss yooooouuuuuuuu!!!
Posted by: Hilary Rosen at April 24, 2012 04:56 PM (Aaxiu)
Posted by: I do what I want at April 24, 2012 04:56 PM (a4CUi)
Posted by: John Murtha at April 24, 2012 08:54 PM (IoNBC)
Could be worse...
Posted by: Zombie John Murtha at April 24, 2012 04:57 PM (Aaxiu)
Posted by: Ombudsman at April 24, 2012 04:57 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Jimbo at April 24, 2012 04:57 PM (O3R/2)
Ann Romney never worked a day in her life. She sat around all day watching soaps, munching Cheetos, and gabbing with her rich friends.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 24, 2012 04:57 PM (TkGkA)
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 24, 2012 08:41 PM (L7hol)
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As you rightly should be.
Posted by: mama winger at April 24, 2012 04:58 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 04:59 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: runninrebel at April 24, 2012 08:53 PM (N/1Dm)
Maybe you should chill out and pull over for some shoe-fly pie, my man...
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 24, 2012 04:59 PM (Aaxiu)
Ann Romney didn't get the job done because she only had boy babies. What's the matter with a woman unable to conceive a boy? It was probably all that missionary positioning instead of a little down and dirty fucking.
Posted by: Hilary Rosen at April 24, 2012 05:00 PM (TkGkA)
Deleware does serve several useful purposes as a state. Here's the top 5
5. Lets me avoid PA sales tax
4. Lets me avoid Pa State liquor stores.
3. Serves as a daily reminder of how bad Pennsylvania's roads are
2. Kept Joe Biden from being unemployed for yea these many decades
1. Let's face it, you can't fit 5 reasons in something so tiny
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2012 05:01 PM (3Zo6I)
http://tinyurl.com/8y53mg3
Posted by: Retread at April 24, 2012 05:02 PM (joSBv)
You should visit our award winning interstates. The potholes are only bad between the New York, and Ohio state lines. The rest is smooth sailing, with no staties from horizon to horizon. Also, all the rest stops are closed, and the holes in the road are colloquially referred to as 'shovel ready jobs'. Also, tobacco is cheaper in other states.
Yeah, we got nothing.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 24, 2012 05:02 PM (L7hol)
Posted by: Hilary Rosen at April 24, 2012 05:04 PM (O3R/2)
4. Lets me avoid Pa State liquor stores.
3. Serves as a daily reminder of how bad Pennsylvania's roads are
2. Kept Joe Biden from being unemployed for yea these many decades
1. Let's face it, you can't fit 5 reasons in something so tiny
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2012 09:01 PM (3Zo6I)
What strikes me most about Delaware is that once you get Wilmington going south, it looks like rural Mississippi
Posted by: Ombudsman at April 24, 2012 05:04 PM (AxHOT)
Allahpundit 1.) doesn't like Romney; 2.) knows his market, which is for doom and gloom and secretly hoping for Obama's reelection to "teach people a lesson." So he's only acting in his own perceived self-interest by demoralizing people.
But I feel the same way. He really just wants an opportunity to post the "happy winking Obama" photo because it pisses people off. He thinks of it as force-feeding us our lima beans, metaphorically speaking. I'm a little sick of it.
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 24, 2012 05:04 PM (hIWe1)
Posted by: Jay Bee at April 24, 2012 05:04 PM (6W8+8)
Posted by: Ombudsman at April 24, 2012 09:04 PM (AxHOT)
Well, it is a flood plain looking for a tsunami.
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 24, 2012 05:05 PM (Aaxiu)
I always thought of McCain as ACC football - a gentlemanly conference, with an emphasis on gentle.
Posted by: Mike at April 24, 2012 05:06 PM (ptP00)
Posted by: Ronster at April 24, 2012 09:05 PM (8oQw/)
I failed PA Dutch in high school. I don't need to spell it to eat it.
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 24, 2012 05:06 PM (Aaxiu)
)Posted by: I do what I want at April 24, 2012 05:06 PM (a4CUi)
Posted by: Al Capone at April 24, 2012 05:07 PM (pvuUD)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 05:07 PM (i6RpT)
Well, it is a flood plain looking for a tsunami.
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 24, 2012 09:05 PM (Aaxiu)
No, I mean the sharecroppers and destitution. thanks, slow joe
Posted by: Ombudsman at April 24, 2012 05:07 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 24, 2012 09:04 PM (hIWe1)
It is an annoyingly transparent schtick.
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 24, 2012 05:08 PM (Aaxiu)
Pa senate Primary 7% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
Tom Smith 9,722 45%
Steven Welch 3,854 18%
Sam Rohrer 3,748 17%
David Christian 2,640 12%
Marc Scaringi 1,499 7%
Tom Smith does not even have a wikipedia page...
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2012 05:08 PM (3Zo6I)
Posted by: Truman North at April 24, 2012 05:08 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: osoloco at April 24, 2012 09:06 PM (4DKt+)
What state are you in? And why would any state schedule a primary so late?
Posted by: mama winger at April 24, 2012 05:08 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Ann at April 24, 2012 09:00 PM (hXJOG)
So what? Neither have I.
Posted by: Hilary Rosen at April 24, 2012 05:08 PM (tfw18)
Posted by: Red Mosquito at April 24, 2012 05:09 PM (jo0fs)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 05:09 PM (i6RpT)
Yes, Syria has air defenses.
Looks like pilots will be earning their flight pay under President Romney.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 05:09 PM (ABzUJ)
Posted by: Ombudsman at April 24, 2012 09:07 PM (AxHOT)
My bad - I didn't realize the rest of the state was even populated, or useful in any way.
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 24, 2012 05:09 PM (Aaxiu)
Sure it does, once tonight and then again tomorrow morning when you feel like you've been hit by a truck.
Posted by: Retread at April 24, 2012 05:11 PM (joSBv)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2012 09:08 PM (3Zo6I)
ON IT!
Posted by: Occupy Rest Stop Toilet Stall at April 24, 2012 05:11 PM (Aaxiu)
Posted by: Tony "where's the brown- reporter-pussy?" Villar at April 24, 2012 05:11 PM (oPNU/)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 24, 2012 05:11 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Colonel Pooteh at April 24, 2012 05:11 PM (ppmvK)
Posted by: lowandslow at April 24, 2012 05:12 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: RFK at April 24, 2012 05:13 PM (i6RpT)
You forgot one. Or two.
Outside of PA, if you want a six pack of beer...you just go to the store. Hell, if you want a case, you just go to the store. Here in PA, if you want less than twelve beers, you have to buy them at the bar. If you want more than twelve, but less than 24, you go to a special beer store, (where, if you want to purchase two twelve packs, they have to ring them up separately , and they have to put the first twelver outside the door before they ring up the next). If you want a case of beer, you have to go to yet another special store....and god forbid you want to buy a bottle of wine.
I find it much easier to drive to NY, and get everything I want at the first place I come to.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 24, 2012 05:13 PM (L7hol)
My bad - I didn't realize the rest of the state was even populated, or useful in any way.
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Ain't it a coupla banks and a beach?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2012 05:13 PM (3Zo6I)
That's OK. Barry likes it that way.
Posted by: Kal Penn at April 24, 2012 05:14 PM (ABzUJ)
I mentioned this earlier but Romney was smart to hire those gay guys with the sticky but sharp tongues... too gross? lol
Even Obama and institutional left seem to be caught off guard by a Republican prepared with a counter attack. I mean the left has become more predictable then Chuck Lorre tv. Yet our guys are constantly caught off guard.
Hope he keeps this kind of forward thinking and aggressive action all season.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 24, 2012 05:15 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at April 24, 2012 09:13 PM (hXJOG)
Honestly, (and taking nothing from Romney), but is that the bar we really want to set?
GOPple
"Don't be feeble"
I think that we can do better, and that even though he was far from my first choice, Romney will. I get the sense that Romney likes to succeed when he is in charge.
Posted by: Occupy Rest Stop Toilet Stall at April 24, 2012 05:15 PM (Aaxiu)
Posted by: Ombudsman at April 24, 2012 05:15 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at April 24, 2012 09:15 PM (hXJOG)
I thought it was just sand and that tall grass that grows in sand.
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 24, 2012 05:17 PM (Aaxiu)
203 #158
You forgot one. Or two.
Outside of PA, if you want a six pack of beer...you just go to the store. Hell, if you want a case, you just go to the store. Here in PA, if you want less than twelve beers, you have to buy them at the bar. If you want more than twelve, but less than 24, you go to a special beer store, (where, if you want to purchase two twelve packs, they have to ring them up separately , and they have to put the first twelver outside the door before they ring up the next). If you want a case of beer, you have to go to yet another special store....and god forbid you want to buy a bottle of wine.
I find it much easier to drive to NY, and get everything I want at the first place I come to.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 24, 2012 09:13 PM (L7hol)
And I thought Indiana was barbaric with their no alcohol sales on Sunday.
New ad campaign: Come to Ohio! Where you don't even have to get out of your car to get a case of beer!
Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2012 05:17 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Ombudsman at April 24, 2012 09:15 PM (AxHOT)
No I don't.
Posted by: mama winger at April 24, 2012 05:17 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Jose at April 24, 2012 05:17 PM (srIqv)
I find it much easier to drive to NY, and get everything I want at the first place I come to.
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Usually a state line is marked with a sign. Here in PA-DE it is simply marked with a liquor store. Brandywine Liquors just 2 miles away, across the street from the HS of course.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2012 05:17 PM (3Zo6I)
Posted by: Jimbo at April 24, 2012 05:17 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Kaitian at April 24, 2012 05:17 PM (et2m1)
Posted by: Ombudsman at April 24, 2012 09:15 PM (AxHOT)
It's not fair, really, all the Kennedy papers are locked up for now...
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 24, 2012 05:17 PM (Aaxiu)
Posted by: Kaitian at April 24, 2012 05:18 PM (et2m1)
Yeah I can.
Barack Hussein Obama.
Now if you asked whether or not there was a bigger fraud....well then....I'd have to think a bit.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 05:18 PM (ABzUJ)
Posted by: Ombudsman at April 24, 2012 09:15 PM (AxHOT)
Barack Obama.
Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2012 05:18 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 05:18 PM (i6RpT)
In 2008, Obama needed to spend a billion dollars because nobody knew who he was.
In 2012, Obama will spend a billion dollars... because everyone knows who he is.
Posted by: Truman North at April 24, 2012 05:19 PM (I2LwF)
Since the media is on their side and that strategy has worked for them in the past and as soon as they find something that sticks they will beat it to death, necromancy revive it and then beat it to death again, rinse repeat... but still their desperate tactics are still a good sign. But when an angry mob has grown desperate you still aren't what I would call "safe" just that their might be an opening if you are clever and quick on your feet.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 24, 2012 05:19 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2012 09:17 PM (GULKT)
We used to have drive up liquor in CO. I think they got rid of it. Not sure.
Posted by: Ronster at April 24, 2012 05:19 PM (8oQw/)
Posted by: Kaitian at April 24, 2012 05:20 PM (et2m1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 09:17 PM (i6RpT)
----
Nuh-uh. Cubs lead the Cards 1-0 in the 5th.
Posted by: mama winger at April 24, 2012 05:20 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Ombudsman at April 24, 2012 09:15 PM (AxHOT)
As Democrats go, he really isn't that exceptional.
Posted by: cm9000 at April 24, 2012 05:20 PM (MwTP4)
Cleanup on post 224... what an ignorant asshole.
Posted by: Truman North at April 24, 2012 05:20 PM (I2LwF)
Krystal, McCain, Bush, Gramm, Lowry, etc. A neo-conservative that never saw a country we shouldn't get militarily involved in to spread "democracy".
Posted by: lowandslow at April 24, 2012 05:20 PM (GZitp)
Especially in the sphere of Middle East policy.
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Oh brother.
Posted by: mama winger at April 24, 2012 05:21 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Sandra at April 24, 2012 05:22 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Jimbo at April 24, 2012 05:22 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 05:23 PM (i6RpT)
The 2012 Romney campaign hits back much quicker than the 2008 McCain campaign.
http://tinyurl.com/ck29dcm
Posted by: kbdabear at April 24, 2012 05:23 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: I do what I want at April 24, 2012 05:23 PM (a4CUi)
I would agree with you there. Reality is certainly not your problem.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 05:24 PM (ABzUJ)
Posted by: A Flea On A Dog's Ass. at April 24, 2012 09:22 PM (m3R4Y)
f*cking hurts? Try some lub-ri-cant, man. Or stop f*cking yourself....
Posted by: Tommy Lee, aging rock star at April 24, 2012 05:24 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 09:23 PM (i6RpT)
I was thinking more along the lines of "an ass on a dog's flea".
Posted by: mama winger at April 24, 2012 05:24 PM (P6QsQ)
http://tinyurl.com/ck29dcm
Posted by: kbdabear at April 24, 2012 09:23 PM (Y+DPZ)
And when they do, they slice like fuckin' hammer.
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 24, 2012 05:25 PM (Aaxiu)
Posted by: Jimbo at April 24, 2012 09:20 PM (O3R/2)
You are correct about the 3.2 in grocery stores, but liquor stores are now allowed to be open on Sunday.
Posted by: Ronster at April 24, 2012 05:25 PM (8oQw/)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 24, 2012 05:26 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 05:27 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: mama winger at April 24, 2012 05:27 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: White House Insider Sheet Division at April 24, 2012 05:27 PM (7yu/j)
The 2012 Romney campaign hits back much quicker than the 2008 McCain campaign.
http://tinyurl.com/ck29dcm
Posted by: kbdabear at April 24, 2012 09:23 PM
One of Romney’s communication strategists says that while he’s not counting chickens before they’ve hatched, he’s pleasantly surprised by how flatfooted the Obama camp has proven on these breaking stories. “They have 700 people in Chicago — 50 percent of their staff is social media,” the strategist says. “I’m afraid to be happy about it, because they can’t be this weak. . . . I wonder if some of this comes from the attitude: ‘How dare anyone question our commitment to women’s issues? We own women’s issues; no one can ever outmaneuver us on this.’ That kind of attitude invites you to get embarrassed.”
Posted by: kbdabear at April 24, 2012 05:28 PM (Y+DPZ)
I live in SC now. There are liquor stores open in Myrtle Beach but not where I live. The TOT (Transient occupancy tax) has to reach a certain threshold to qualify. It has to be a county that has lots of tourists.
Posted by: Jimbo at April 24, 2012 05:28 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: A Flea On A Dog's Ass. at April 24, 2012 09:25 PM (m3R4Y) "
How can it be clear as day when there is no fucking evidence? Nope couldn't be that they actually believe this spreading democracy horseshit, hell no, they're just doing the Jews bidding.
Take that shit somewhere else.
Posted by: lowandslow at April 24, 2012 05:28 PM (GZitp)
A Flea On A Dog's Ass. at April 24, 2012
I bet this numbnuts thinks all jews have a sack of gold around their neck too.
Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2012 05:28 PM (GULKT)
That is a weak-ass response to anything, man. You didn't even name specific personnel, let a lone policy positions, objectives, or actions.
So, tell me, were the elections in Palestine good/bad for Israel or good/bad for US? Did that benefit Israel, while hindering US interests?
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 24, 2012 05:29 PM (Aaxiu)
Our guy could never pay to get Alynski point shoehorned into this weeks episode of everything from law and order - sesame street - Nickelodian-univision- the Office - ESPN etc.
Regular uninformed voters don't realize a fraction of the political "messaging" that's flooding their programming.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 24, 2012 05:29 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 05:29 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 09:29 PM (i6RpT)
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I feel bad about that.
Posted by: mama winger at April 24, 2012 05:30 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Jimbo at April 24, 2012 05:31 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: A Flea bite on his daddy's ass at April 24, 2012 05:32 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Hedgehog at April 24, 2012 05:32 PM (Q/ONn)
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But the hair will still be FABULOUS
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2012 09:30 PM (3Zo6I)
I saw john edwards gettin' raped by a queen, his hair was perfect.
Posted by: Zombie Jailhouse Waren Zevon at April 24, 2012 05:32 PM (Aaxiu)
Maybe someone could put me some knowledge.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 05:32 PM (ABzUJ)
Posted by: mama winger at April 24, 2012 05:33 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 24, 2012 05:33 PM (e8kgV)
Damn fine speech by Romney, excellent and inspiring. I liked him calling out Obama on attacking success, spreading the wealth and his overall failure.
Posted by: robtr at April 24, 2012 05:33 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 24, 2012 05:33 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: I do what I want at April 24, 2012 05:33 PM (a4CUi)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 05:34 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 24, 2012 09:29 PM (RfvTE)
Thats why the greatest "gaffe" ever was Evan Thomas (I think), saying the media gave Democrats a 15% advantage. In a level playing field Republicans would win every presidential election.
Posted by: cm9000 at April 24, 2012 05:35 PM (MwTP4)
Looks like Democrat Moonbat candidate Matt Cartwright (D. Kucinich) is gonna beat Blue Dog Dem Tim Holden.
You can write off PA this November.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 24, 2012 05:36 PM (7+pP9)
That is FACT.
No amount of name-calling is going to change that.
Posted by: A Flea On A Dog's Ass. at April 24, 2012 09:31 PM (m3R4Y)
http://tinyurl.com/6c3l
The HORROR!
Posted by: Zombie Jailhouse Waren Zevon at April 24, 2012 05:36 PM (Aaxiu)
Posted by: mama winger at April 24, 2012 05:36 PM (P6QsQ)
The neo-con is an idealist, often by way of Trotskyism, who thinks that the USA can be a force of good in the world. Many neo-cons are, yes, Jews but not exclusively. The neo-con is mainly a Lincoln Republican, or at least sees himself as one. The neo-con sees goodness as freedom and prosperity, and is generally libertarian. The neo-con supports democracy in the Near East, assuming that democracy will lead to goodness. The neo-con supports Israel only insofar as he sees Israel as a bastion of goodness, not because it is Jewish.
m3R4Y: That's a summary of my beliefs up to 2006, and to a more subdued extent up to 2009. I know whereof I speak.
Neoconservatism is a mistake, and I repudiate it, denounce myself and the rest of it. But what it is NOT is a form of Jewish nationalism.
Jewish nationalism just says that Arabs suck and need to be taken down several pegs, that Islam is evil, and that Israel is the homeland of the Jewish race. If America *did* make that set of beliefs its lodestone for foreign policy, I'd feel much better on tax day.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 24, 2012 05:36 PM (QTHTd)
Wait, CT, DE, and RI are states? And NY, that's really just a city with a lot of land up north.
Voted today in PA. The Romney Collective and its Super PAC Deathstar got my vote.
Have to say the two interesting races statewide were the Senate Republican Primaries and the Democratics Attorney General Race.
Senate Race:
Welch was the establishment favorite, unfortunately for him he's running in year where the establishment is not well liked. He also had the endorsement of Gov. Corbett, but Corbett has not impressed a lot of statewide Republicans
Sam Rohrer - Nice guy, but he just doesn't have the right stuff
Tom Smith - I voted for him. He's from out west, great story, and in the last couple weeks he has surged after spending some of his own money on adverstising. Overall, it looks like Smith will win the "honor" of taking on Casey unless something dramatic changes in the returns
Posted by: David of PA at April 24, 2012 05:36 PM (HUxtO)
Posted by: Ronster at April 24, 2012 05:36 PM (8oQw/)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 05:37 PM (i6RpT)
The helicopters always come right after the chemtrails, don't they mama?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 05:37 PM (ABzUJ)
I'm not a PA guy, but even I couldn't let that one pass. Carnegie Mellon University is in Pitt. If plumbing is all you see in Pitt, you may cleanse your palate with the designing of space vehicles, robotics, and sundry advanced medical technology at CMU.
Posted by: I do what I want at April 24, 2012 09:33 PM (a4CUi)
Or, you could take whirl at the native's favorite pastime of Inebriated Bathroom Rape!
Posted by: Zombie Jailhouse Waren Zevon at April 24, 2012 05:38 PM (Aaxiu)
Posted by: Jimbo at April 24, 2012 05:38 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2012 09:28 PM (GULKT)
Come on... we all know that not true... they keep it in their Secret Jew Caves...
Posted by: Cartman at April 24, 2012 05:38 PM (lZBBB)
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Oh for the love of pete.
Posted by: mama winger at April 24, 2012 05:39 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 24, 2012 05:40 PM (SB0V2)
Posted by: nickless at April 24, 2012 05:40 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 24, 2012 05:40 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 09:37 PM (ABzUJ)
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It appears to have circled a couple of times and gone away. I'm safe. For now........
Posted by: mama winger at April 24, 2012 05:41 PM (P6QsQ)
You're interested in your interpretation of the facts.
That's the key word there - interpretation.
You're not really interested in facts.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 05:41 PM (ABzUJ)
I'm only interested in facts.
Posted by: A Flea On A Dog's Ass. at April 24, 2012 09:40 PM (m3R4Y)
Yes. I stereotype you as a bigoted retarded anti-semitic troglodyte.
All in Favor?
Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2012 05:42 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Kaitian at April 24, 2012 05:42 PM (et2m1)
Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2012 05:43 PM (GULKT)
No. I wasn't talking about that.
You need to follow the thread. You'll see.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 05:43 PM (ABzUJ)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2012 05:43 PM (3Zo6I)
Posted by: Kaitian at April 24, 2012 09:42 PM (et2m1)
Not unless you are A Flea On A Dog's Ass and stirring up whack ass trouble
Posted by: Zombie Jailhouse Waren Zevon at April 24, 2012 05:43 PM (Aaxiu)
Posted by: CAC at April 24, 2012 09:43 PM (ivJTD)
Okey Dokey.
Posted by: mama winger at April 24, 2012 05:44 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 24, 2012 05:45 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: I do what I want at April 24, 2012 05:45 PM (a4CUi)
Neocons are just war loving liberals who have too much influence in the Republican party. It has nothing to do with Jews. Last time I looked, Dick Cheney and Marco Rubio aren't Jewish. These anti-Semites use Neocon as an insult to Jews an dit makes it harder for Conservative and Libertarian critics of the failure of Neoconservatism to make their case.
Take Syria for example. The Neocon want the US to invade and thanks to idiots like A Flea On A Dog's Ass, its difficult to critic them without being called a anti-Semite.
Posted by: Al Capone at April 24, 2012 05:46 PM (pvuUD)
Posted by: UncleZeb at April 24, 2012 05:46 PM (+JbI2)
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 24, 2012 05:48 PM (niZvt)
Buzzz.. wow.. thanks for playing. I think you just shot yourself in the foot there. Quite a few intelligence and diplomatic officials hold this view. In fact many of them have written books on the subject. Wow.. the immense ignorance of this statement really exposes how little research you've actually done on the subject.
But duh SoS, anyone of those that do say that are neo-cons in the pocket of Israel. He's got the perfect (conspiracy) theory. If they agree with him then they are trusted sources. If they don't agree with him then they are in on it and not reliable.
Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2012 05:48 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 24, 2012 05:48 PM (L7hol)
It wouldn't let me send you a direct message because you aren't following me. (Shame on you) But Absolutely! Just point me in the right direction and tell me what you need. Unless it gets to looking bad and I have to do myself in, I'll be there!
Posted by: mama winger at April 24, 2012 05:48 PM (P6QsQ)
The PA Dems are voting in the the most Moonbattiest of their Moonbat candidates today.
Looks like they want to go all Chicago.
Color PA blue this November.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 24, 2012 05:48 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 24, 2012 05:49 PM (niZvt)
Thanks to jerks like you the Necon cabal can silence their critics with the cry of anti-Semite. Neocons policy is actually anti-Israel since Arab Democracy leads to Islamic regimes that want to destroy Israel.
You are a racist and ignorant fool.
Posted by: Al Capone at April 24, 2012 05:49 PM (pvuUD)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at April 24, 2012 05:49 PM (ybkwK)
BlackOrchid
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Agreed. I think Tom Smith is the best out of the lot we got. Unfortunately, our best decided not to play this year.
Posted by: David of PA at April 24, 2012 05:50 PM (HUxtO)
^^^This
I've also been counting the logical fallacies. He's up to 11 now, and there are only 47 of them. At this rate he'll have completed the Intellectual Incoherence Olympics by 11:00 pm
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 05:50 PM (ABzUJ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 05:50 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: cm9000 at April 24, 2012 09:35 PM (MwTP4)
Yes and no. Root cause of that issue is that there exists a group of people who willingly believe the MSM, not that the MSM is biased. Ultimately, when you get all the way down to the heart of the issue, it's a failure of grown people to think critically.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 24, 2012 05:50 PM (ND9u8)
But then, he must be sharing his joint with fucking John Boehnor, who appears to be agreeing with him.
I've seen him crimson eyed before.
Posted by: panzernashorn at April 24, 2012 05:51 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 05:53 PM (i6RpT)
As you say, it has nothing to do with Israel or TEH JOOS.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 24, 2012 05:53 PM (QTHTd)
Updated from Colorado April 1st-
Registration by party (active)
R- 36%
D-31%
I/OTHER-33%
November 2008: R 33% D 33% I 34%
EVEN (lost by 9 to Obama)
Now R+5
Posted by: CAC at April 24, 2012 05:54 PM (ivJTD)
then subtract Cleveland and Milwaukee and you get Detroit
Posted by: Beto at April 24, 2012 05:54 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: robtr at April 24, 2012 05:54 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: lowandslow at April 24, 2012 05:54 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 05:55 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: kbdabear at April 24, 2012 05:55 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: I do what I want at April 24, 2012 05:55 PM (a4CUi)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 05:56 PM (i6RpT)
You explained it better than me! But yes, that's my point.
Assholes like A Flea On A Dog's Ass doesn't know what they are talking about. He just wants to trash Jews and blame them for everything..
Posted by: Al Capone at April 24, 2012 05:56 PM (pvuUD)
Thus far (45% reporting)
Pa democrat votes for Senator 307,000
Pa Republican votes for Senator 238,000
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2012 05:56 PM (3Zo6I)
"Tonight is the beginning of the end of the disappointments of the Obama years..."
This ain't no McCain campaign.
Posted by: nickless at April 24, 2012 05:57 PM (MMC8r)
then subtract Cleveland and Milwaukee and you get Detroit
Posted by: Beto at April 24, 2012 09:54 PM
Is the square root of all that New Orleans?
Posted by: kbdabear at April 24, 2012 05:57 PM (Y+DPZ)
It's probably going to come to that.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 05:57 PM (ABzUJ)
Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2012 05:58 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: DC in Towson at April 24, 2012 05:58 PM (I/cLr)
Yes you nailed it better than me. I have no use for bigots like Flea's ass. He's just here to push hatred of Jews.
Posted by: Al Capone at April 24, 2012 05:58 PM (pvuUD)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 24, 2012 05:59 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 05:59 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2012 05:59 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: kbdabear at April 24, 2012 09:57 PM (Y+DPZ)
New Orleans has a negative exponent
Posted by: Beto at April 24, 2012 05:59 PM (lpWVn)
On the coasts? No.
In the heartland and mountain west? Yes.
So, you'll find me in Lander, Wyoming sometime around 2020.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 06:01 PM (ABzUJ)
Posted by: Al Capone at April 24, 2012 06:01 PM (pvuUD)
Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2012 09:58 PM (7W3wI)
That's a lot of money for what? She must really hate Tebow.
Posted by: Ronster at April 24, 2012 06:01 PM (8oQw/)
Posted by: Hedgehog at April 24, 2012 06:02 PM (Q/ONn)
I want to see the total vote for NY, to gauge enthusiasm for the general. Not like we'll flip the state in the general election, but it should say something about the vote overall.
Also if the enthusiasm I noted is statewide with the party.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 24, 2012 06:02 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Al Capone at April 24, 2012 10:01 PM
Was that a flea? Damn, I thought it was a chive!
Posted by: King Barry the Dog Diner at April 24, 2012 06:03 PM (Y+DPZ)
I LOVE that, because it sounds so much like his, "You're likable enough, Hilary" line. Punk thought he was a laugh riot with that one. He's not liking it so much when he's on the receiving end.
He's got a glass jaw and I hope Romney lays him out. Nothing would be sweeter than a McGovern style 49 state electoral blow out.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 06:03 PM (ABzUJ)
That's a lot of money for what? She must really hate Tebow.
Publicity. Just offering the money gets publicity for them, and they likely never have to pay a penny. And, if they actually do get the story, it's bombshell publicity all over again.
Posted by: nickless at April 24, 2012 06:04 PM (MMC8r)
That's a lot of money for what? She must really hate Tebow.
Posted by: Ronster at April 24, 2012 10:01 PM (8oQw/)
The CEO is a dude. http://tinyurl.com/77b2aqr
Posted by: buzzion at April 24, 2012 06:04 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2012 06:04 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 09:59 PM (i6RpT)
The more precise question is: "Do the majority of Americans want to survive by the fruits of their own efforts?"
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 24, 2012 06:04 PM (ND9u8)
Yes, her family immigrated from Russia to Argentina 100 years ago. I met her through mutual friends. She's a White Sox fan like me and that made us bond! Plus she loves, Da Bears!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Al Capone at April 24, 2012 06:04 PM (pvuUD)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 24, 2012 06:05 PM (R5yLq)
What? It's an apt description, hell at one time Krystal and GWB were proud of the term. It's not my fault their policies made it a derogatory label.
Posted by: lowandslow at April 24, 2012 06:05 PM (GZitp)
His left hand has already put in for the reward
Posted by: Beto at April 24, 2012 06:05 PM (lpWVn)
Let me guess you are a Cubby fans? Maybe if you scarifice a goat, the curse will be lifted! LOL!
Posted by: Al Capone at April 24, 2012 06:07 PM (pvuUD)
Well if we want to survive I believe so also. Do the majority of Americans want to survive? And unfortunately I am serious with that question
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 09:59 PM (i6RpT)
I'm totally cool with low yield tactical nukes in the field of battle.
Mecca would be a good first start.
Posted by: ErikW at April 24, 2012 06:08 PM (UTHNU)
Posted by: I do what I want at April 24, 2012 06:10 PM (a4CUi)
Go big, or go home - 50MT +
Frankly, there's nothing worth saving from Peshawar to Riyadh, it will require something much larger than tactical nukes.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 06:10 PM (ABzUJ)
Cheating website AshleyMadison offering $1 million to anyone who can prove they had sex with Tim Tebow.
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think i'll legally change my name to Tim Tebow and get it on with my wife. A million buys a fair amount of something-thats-cool-and-costs-a-lot-less-than-a-million.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 24, 2012 06:10 PM (3Zo6I)
Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2012 06:11 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Illinois at April 24, 2012 06:11 PM (m6OUa)
Romney 57.3%, Santorum 19.0%, Paul 13.2%, Gingrich 10%
Posted by: #OccupyAnthonyWeinersShorts at April 24, 2012 06:11 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: cm9000 at April 24, 2012 06:13 PM (MwTP4)
Posted by: mama winger at April 24, 2012 06:13 PM (P6QsQ)
Funny, I can't find anything encouraging martyrdom in the Bible or the Torah.
But...oddly....I can in the Quran. Fancy that.
I digested Bernard Lewis too, and took Arabic and ME studies at Boston University and I'm more convinced that ever Islam is incompatible with the modern world. So at this point, it's them or us.
Yes, the religion IS the problem.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 06:13 PM (ABzUJ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 06:13 PM (i6RpT)
Frankly, there's nothing worth saving from Peshawar to Riyadh, it will require something much larger than tactical nukes.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 10:10 PM (ABzUJ)
Well, there's the oil deposits. It really would be be blood for oil!
Posted by: ErikW at April 24, 2012 06:14 PM (UTHNU)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 24, 2012 09:59 PM (R5yLq)
neo-con, neo-con, neo-con, neo-con, neo-con
neo-con, neo-con, neo-con, neo-con, neo-con
Posted by: Baraka "Dick" Obama at April 24, 2012 06:14 PM (WUWb9)
Posted by: Ronster at April 24, 2012 06:14 PM (8oQw/)
Good thing western oil companies have perfected horizontal drilling!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 06:15 PM (ABzUJ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 24, 2012 06:15 PM (0R9ln)
You the hell taught that class? You don't need some professor explaining Islam to understand it, they have how to books you can read. One called the Koran.
Posted by: lowandslow at April 24, 2012 06:16 PM (GZitp)
Heh. He is a leftie. --- I'm a leftie, but use my right. Left hand holds the porn steadier
Posted by: Barry at April 24, 2012 06:17 PM (3Zo6I)
Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2012 06:19 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 06:21 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2012 06:21 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: I do let a fart if I want at April 24, 2012 06:22 PM (qjH4X)
Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2012 06:23 PM (7W3wI)
Not many in my experience. My last tour before retirement was Iraq, and it cemented my attitude about Islam - and that was after being sent for what amounted to a Masters degree in ME studies. My experience is not unusual either.
I think you might find wishy-washyness about Islam a bit more common in the enlisted ranks, and doubly so in the support branches. Combat arms guys get to see jihadi handiwork up close and personal, and they hold no illusions about the "Religion of Peace" :: spit ::
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 06:23 PM (ABzUJ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 06:23 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Bubba, Inmate 490210 at April 24, 2012 06:23 PM (Rhie+)
Can you imagine Ike, Bradley and Patten telling the troops to try to find the good in your enemy because Nazi's are basically decent, just misunderstood?
Posted by: lowandslow at April 24, 2012 06:24 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: navycopjoe waiting for da cubs to win a f**king game at April 24, 2012 06:25 PM (KZ5KD)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 06:25 PM (i6RpT)
(Here's a link [on id] from 2010 from Harvard ISS that may be of interest. -- BLOCKED!) - No Harvard links here I guess!
Here is some:
The commander of Saudi forces in the Gulf, Prince Khaled bin Sultan bragged in his memoir that more than 2,000 American troops converted to Islam through this campaign. “These Muslim troops are now the messengers of Islam in the U.S. forces,” said Dr. Abu Ameena Bilal Phillips, a Jamaican-born convert to Islam (1972) who worked during the Gulf war under the auspices of the U.S. Air Force while converting U.S. troops to Islam in his spare time. After the war, Phillips moved to the United States to “set up Islamic chapters in the U.S. Defense Department.”
Posted by: RioBravo at April 24, 2012 06:25 PM (le4UT)
Posted by: I do let a fart if I want at April 24, 2012 06:25 PM (196B4)
Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2012 06:27 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Al Capone at April 24, 2012 10:21 PM (pvuUD)
The ones I know who've been to both theaters say the only redeeming quality Iraqi men have is that they're not Afghans.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 24, 2012 06:27 PM (ND9u8)
Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2012 06:28 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: I do what I want at April 24, 2012 06:28 PM (a4CUi)
Pisses me off too.
Just once I'd like a U.S. General (like Mathis) say something like, "I'll get real upset about my Marines (soldiers, sailors, etc.) doing something like that when I see the President of Afghanistan get real upset over his troops killing mine. Until then, fuck off."
He'd be relieved immediately, but he'd never buy a drink ever again in his life.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 06:29 PM (ABzUJ)
Posted by: navycopjoe waiting for da cubs to win a f**king game at April 24, 2012 06:30 PM (KZ5KD)
431. That sounds self serving for the sultan. If true, we are fuc*ed.
Posted by: Ronster at April 24, 2012 06:30 PM (8oQw/)
Ummm. yeah, I'm a practicing Catholic with an MA in Theology. You're wrong. Next?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 06:32 PM (ABzUJ)
Posted by: I do what I want at April 24, 2012 06:33 PM (a4CUi)
Posted by: doily at April 24, 2012 06:34 PM (oZfic)
No. You took a couple community college course on Islam. You got it goin on.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 06:34 PM (ABzUJ)
Jesus fucking Christ, what the fuck is going on tonight? Every fucking religious conspiracy theorist out there decides to chime in? The Christians and the Jews are only in it for money and power and those poor Muslims are being hoodwinked. That about sum it up?
Posted by: lowandslow at April 24, 2012 06:34 PM (GZitp)
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Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at April 24, 2012 06:34 PM (fiXQh)
There is LESS evidence for Muhammad's life than there is for Jesus's. But this is not to say that there is NO evidence. Those who recorded both stories let slip often-self-contradictory accounts which might have made their subjects look bad according to the religions' later doctrines.
In Jesus's case, the virgin birth is a problem, the baptism by some other prophet is a problem, and the crucifixion is a problem. In Muhammad's case, that he was a merchant is a problem (to Arab warlords), and that he killed a lot of Jews in Madina is a problem (to Islamic legal specialists).
Bart Ehrman calls this the Dissimilarity Principle: if the original texts are passing on stuff they'd be expected to be embarrassed about, then it's probably TRUE.
But that means it's probably true that Jesus and Muhammad did exist.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 24, 2012 06:35 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: lowandslo
Yes, that's about the quality of the argument.
And if you really think about it, that's a Marxist interpretation of religious history.
Which is to be expected.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 06:35 PM (ABzUJ)
Posted by: I do what I want at April 24, 2012 06:38 PM (a4CUi)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2012 06:38 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: I do what I want at April 24, 2012 06:39 PM (a4CUi)
and power and those poor Muslims are being hoodwinked. That about sum
it up?
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What? Now I am really confused. I thought the Jews were in it for the money and the Christians AND Mooselems were hoodwinked. It is so darned difficult to keep it straight....
Posted by: RioBravo at April 24, 2012 06:40 PM (le4UT)
I see you lack the concept of irony, since it was your certainty and lecturing tone about Islam that kicked all this off.
Try one of those Catholic virtues on for size for a little while - humility.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2012 06:40 PM (ABzUJ)
Posted by: I do let a fart if I want at April 24, 2012 06:41 PM (LnEk1)
The virgin birth is an issue because Jesus was supposed to be the Messiah, and descended from the male line from David. Matthew gets around it by having God mediate Joseph's transfer of DNA to Mary. Luke does it un-Jewishly by just conceiving Jesus by God's Will and drawing the Messianic lineage through Mary. Luke is basically retelling the Perseus legend (first noted by Justin Martyr, IIRC).
The baptism by John is a problem because Jesus is supposed to be bigger than John. Jesus should be baptising John.
The crucifixion hangs Jesus on a tree and curses Jesus, by Torah law.
So all three of these pose a big problem for Christianity as a Jewish sect. Which is why they all have multiple solutions in the NT. But the "problem" for (Jewishly minded and early) Christians is the opposite of a problem for historians.
Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 24, 2012 06:44 PM (QTHTd)
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Posted by: lowandslow at April 24, 2012 06:46 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 24, 2012 10:43 PM (OWjjx)
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The tip off is how we can't resist letting extraneous lib-trash ideas leak into our arguments.
We like to fake military service too, we know you cons love military stuff.
Posted by: I do let a fart if I want at April 24, 2012 06:47 PM (KpzvX)
Posted by: I do what I want at April 24, 2012 06:54 PM (a4CUi)
Personally, I knew you were a blowhard when you dropped that sneer about "Fox News".
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