August 28, 2012
— Ace @conartcritic and @laurww have been watching this one like hawks who don't like liberals.
Rasmussen put McMahon up by three last week. Quinnippiac now shows the same lead, 49-46.
In today's survey, McMahon's 54 - 42 percent lead among men swamps Murphy's small 50 - 46 percent lead among women. McMahon leads 88 - 10 percent among Republicans and 55 - 40 percent among independent voters, while Murphy takes Democrats 82 - 16 percent.
"Well it's great," you say, "that you can publish content that already appeared on Hot Air one hour ago; but can you publish content that appeared on Hot Air two hours ago?"
As a matter of fact, I can. Because a CBS-only (no NYT) poll of registered voters has Obama up by a single point, and only at 46.
Despite spending the summer attempting to demonize Romney, both men have nearly identical favorability gaps, -5 for Romney and -3 for Obama — and Romney has significantly more upside, with 32% undecided against 15% for Obama.
I don't think this favorability gap is predictive in the first place. All liberals love Obama (even if they think he's not done a good job) but in fact a lot of conservatives are planning to vote for Romney who don't like him at all. And yet, they will vote for him.
On this whole question of "Who likes who," which is very high-school, but whatever, it's the liberal talking point because no one's going to give Obama a solid rating on actual ability to do his job: Gabe is annoyed by liberals continuing to insist on something that just isn't true. The latest push is that Romney's likability is as low as Nixon's, but Gabe rebuts:
Maxwell [a liberal at Gabe's NYDN site] points to this February 2012 WaPo/ABC poll from the midst of the contentious GOP primary to draw her conclusions. Let's look at something a little more relevant -- say, CNN's most recent poll (PDF) on candidate favorability.CNN found that registered voters didn't like Romney very much in February 2012, when only 36% viewed him favorably and 54% viewed him unfavorably. But then there's the latest data from August 22-23, when Romney's favorability rose to 48% among registered voters and the percentage viewing him unfavorably dropped to 46. That's a combined gain of 20% points in the right direction since February.
This is precisely the opposite of what Maxwell suggested. The more Americans have learned about Romney, the more they've come to like him. In the same time period, President Obama's favorability has simply hovered right around the same level. The President's numbers aren't sinking, but neither has he managed to move the electorate to view him more positively.
Partisans for either side are going to be partisan -- by definition -- but they ought not willfully assume that the wider public shares their fancies. On the liberal side of things, they cling to this fantasy that it's still October of 2008, and Hope and Change is still actually a thing.
It's not.
Speaking again of high school, it's like a bunch of gals who had a crush on the glib student body president, and who persist in this infatuation even twenty years later, even though he's a bit of a sad figure now. And compounding the pathos is their belief that you share in their infatuation as well.
Obama has not been popular since he passed ObamaCare. The polls said so, then we had a historic repudiation in the 2010 confirming that the polls were correct.
Let's update, huh? You sound like f***ing hippies who cannot ever shut up about Haight-Ashbury in 1968. The world's page has turned, and you should join us in the current chapter.
The Summer of Love is over, kids. I know you'd prefer to live in it always but that's just not possible, and the rest of us are starting to worry about you.
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Here in a nutshell is why McMahon is currently leading and Romney is competitive in CT: it breaks down into a regional thing. Western CT, largely composed of high-income bedroom communities for the NYC investor class, used to be traditionally moderate GOP (Chris Shays’ and Nancy Johnson’s old districts) but has gone over to the Dems as the national party became more Southern, evangelical, and socially conservative. These people have REALLY soured on Obama’s ‘soak the rich’ and ‘blame Wall Street’ rhetoric, they loathe Dodd-Frank, but normally they would still hold their noses and vote Dem because the GOP is now too perceived as too extreme and Southern for them.
However, the Romney/Ryan/McMahon ticket is uniquely positioned to appeal to these people. Romney is essentially the guy they all aspire to be (worldÂ’s greatest investor), Ryan is the guy they all want to hire and/or work with (super-smart likable alpha-male numbers wonk), and McMahon is the sort of woman who reminds them of their best and most impressive clients (successful, poised, no-nonsense businesswoman). The synergy between the national ticket and McMahonÂ’s profile accounts for pretty much ALL of the closeness in the Presidental numbers in CT.
Further east, the Romney/Ryan appeal has less appeal in the more middle-class/blue collar, trad-New England Eastern CT areas — this again is why Romney still trails by 7% or so and won’t actually win the state. But McMahon is still winning because 1.) Chris Murphy’s base is in northwestern CT, overlapping the same region that has turned against Obama (as noted above) for other reasons; 2.) the most interesting thing I’ve found is that in eastern CT lots of people don’t know Murphy and when they do, they literally don’t like his jerk face, Big Lebowski-style. All you need to do is watch his TV ads in conjunction with McMahon’s. She hits crisp, brutal, hard; he comes off as a simpering prat. It’s a weird sort of reverse Scott Brown-effect: he has negative charisma with a lot of blue-collar voters in the eastern half of the state.
Make no mistake: this race will be razor-close no matter what. But McMahon has a real chance of winning because of the structural factors in the race plus her ultra-professional operation. Her run in 2010 also turns out to have helped immensely: she made remarkably few mistakes in that campaign (to pretty much everybody’s surprise in the professional political class) but she’s learned from the few that she did (namely not suffocating the state with ads), and her worst issues — WWE scandal stuff — has already been well-aired at this point.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 28, 2012 10:20 AM (Z2wcK)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 28, 2012 10:20 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Mr Pink at August 28, 2012 10:21 AM (4bxmV)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 28, 2012 10:22 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 28, 2012 10:22 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 28, 2012 10:22 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: tasker at August 28, 2012 10:23 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 28, 2012 10:23 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 28, 2012 10:25 AM (wtvvX)
but they ought not willfully assume that the wider public shares their fancies.
The left has a hellava time discerning the difference between emotion and fact, so I'd be a lot less inclined to listen to their declaration of likability vs unlikability.
Besides, anyone in the public sphere that a lefty finds likable and intelligent has 87% chance of being a arrogant douchebag.
Posted by: Heralder at August 28, 2012 10:25 AM (+xmn4)
Posted by: cajun carrot at August 28, 2012 10:25 AM (UZQM8)
The 2010 elections said nothing of the sort. They were a signal that I should be on my knees working in good faith with the most despicable, distrustworthy, un-American piece of shit who has ever sat even close to the Oval Office. Americans told me in 2010 that they wanted me to be a leader who understood the Occupoopers and who worked hand-in-hand with the guy who singlehandedly demanded a downgrade of US debt, which I happily took the blame for and for which I signed off on every bit of insane spending and refused to do anything to actually try to repeal ObamaCare, which I think most Americans really like. That's what 2010 said to me.
Posted by: Weeper of the House, Shithead Supreme at August 28, 2012 10:25 AM (X3lox)
It's worth reading.
I mean, most of what I write around here ain't worth shit, let's be clear about that: you know it, I know it, we just politely avoid pointing it out because that would be uncouth. But this? Worth reading.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 28, 2012 10:25 AM (Z2wcK)
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 28, 2012 10:25 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 28, 2012 10:26 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 28, 2012 10:26 AM (8sCoq)
Let's update, huh? You sound like f***ing hippies who cannot ever shut up about Haight-Ashbury in 1968. The world's page has turned, and you should join us in the current chapter.
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Wow, man. That's heavy.
Posted by: Old balding hippie with scraggly little gray ponytail at August 28, 2012 10:26 AM (zrO2Q)
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 28, 2012 10:26 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 28, 2012 10:26 AM (9TTOe)
We'll see come November but it really looks like the Democrats are going to get pounded like a tent peg.
If that happens... the GOP has a chance to show real leadership and smarts, but who expects that to happen?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 28, 2012 10:26 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 28, 2012 10:26 AM (zrpqj)
Posted by: cajun carrot at August 28, 2012 10:27 AM (UZQM8)
Me? I'm just the Electoral Spymaster General of AoSHQ: my shady low-level political connections span across the country, and provide me marginally more insight than the average internet junkie.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 28, 2012 10:28 AM (Z2wcK)
Been gone for a couple days..... miss me??
The DNC is a clique.... and very much behaves like spoiled 14 year old sophmoric girls.
O/T..... you will NEVER guess who's leading Prayers on the Friday of the DNC convention...... and who was denied.
http://tinyurl.com/9tlpe9u
As-salamu Alaykum
Posted by: fixerupper at August 28, 2012 10:28 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at August 28, 2012 10:29 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Phelps at August 28, 2012 10:29 AM (A1EwI)
Let's update, huh? You sound like f***ing hippies who cannot ever shut up about Haight-Ashbury in 1968.
And that idyllic period in Haight-Ashbury history spanned what? 3-4 months? Then it became transients shitting on the sidewalk and heroin overdoses on the doorstep.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 28, 2012 10:29 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 28, 2012 10:29 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 28, 2012 10:30 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 28, 2012 10:30 AM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Barack "alcoholic boyfriend" Obama at August 28, 2012 10:30 AM (4bxmV)
What is a better job offer?
$72k salary at a full time position that is 35 minute commute?
Or...
$40/h at an open ended contract that is 50 minute commute?
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 28, 2012 02:26 PM (zrpqj)
The one with the hotter women in the office.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 28, 2012 10:31 AM (X3lox)
Pretty much, one summer. But when you're stoned the whole time banging filthy hippy chicks, it probably seemed like a lifetime of bliss.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 28, 2012 10:31 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 28, 2012 02:29 PM (TIIx5)
And to think it only took Occupy about 2 weeks to get there.
Posted by: Heralder at August 28, 2012 10:31 AM (+xmn4)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 28, 2012 10:31 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 28, 2012 10:31 AM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 28, 2012 10:31 AM (jucos)
What is a better job offer?
$72k salary at a full time position that is 35 minute commute?
Or...
$40/h at an open ended contract that is 50 minute commute?
Pay is basically the same as you will be using the extra to make up the FICA and SSI for the employer you don't have, (presuming no OT).
Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 28, 2012 10:31 AM (wcP2i)
Says it all.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 28, 2012 10:31 AM (Z2wcK)
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 28, 2012 10:32 AM (BAS5M)
As a matter of fact, I can<<<<<=
Damn you. Damn you and your self-deprecating humor.
We WILL have our sport. This is not over.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 28, 2012 10:32 AM (nHMBg)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 28, 2012 02:30 PM (VtjlW)
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Fuckin' A we do.
Posted by: Old balding hippie with scraggly little gray ponytail at August 28, 2012 10:32 AM (zrO2Q)
LOL, I don't know about 68 ace, but I was there in 72 and it was a shit hole bum magnet that smelled like urine in 72. I don't expect it was much different in 68.
When you think "hippies" think bums and winos instead because that is who hung out there.
Posted by: Vic at August 28, 2012 10:32 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2012 10:33 AM (XvHmy)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 28, 2012 02:26 PM (VtjlW)
Please please oh please let Linda win. The following Smackdown and Raw episodes will be AWESOME. I cannot even imagine the McMahon strut down the aisle if she wins. And his ego is so damn big that there's no way he won't make a big deal out of it.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 28, 2012 10:33 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 28, 2012 10:33 AM (9TTOe)
His personality is not the type that inspires a sense of "like"--which, at its root, means "similar to."
Who really thinks after three and a half years "Obama is like me"?
(I don't think Romney is like me, either, so I agree with Ace somewhat about the rating. But it's a more formal way of capturing the characteristic of, "Who would you rather have a beer with?" And that I can answer: Romney.)
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at August 28, 2012 10:33 AM (EAk6R)
Posted by: slick willy at August 28, 2012 10:34 AM (zCojJ)
Posted by: Dave S. at August 28, 2012 10:34 AM (M7Cfv)
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at August 28, 2012 10:34 AM (XrGnJ)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 28, 2012 10:34 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: Max Wedge at August 28, 2012 10:34 AM (Hh8ts)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 28, 2012 10:34 AM (TMB3S)
Obama has not been popular since he passed ObamaCare. The polls said so, then we had a historic repudiation in the 2010 confirming that the polls were correct.
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This is a point Dick Morris keeps making - pollsters are not listening to what voters are telling them.
SCOAMF is going to have a rough 1st week of November
Posted by: Jay at August 28, 2012 10:35 AM (3LaGb)
Posted by: Dave S. at August 28, 2012 02:34 PM (M7Cfv)
Obama is the guy who shows up in his letter jacket at 50 and wants to shoot baskets with the 12 year olds.
Posted by: Vic at August 28, 2012 10:35 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: t-bird at August 28, 2012 10:35 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 28, 2012 10:35 AM (Vr3cm)
Retards, America-haters, and foreigners.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 28, 2012 10:35 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2012 10:35 AM (XvHmy)
I wonder if most of the time they got by on machine, word of mouth, party loyalty, and slogans. Because it seems like the Democrats are less and less able to get these kind of genetic malfunctions elected - and Republicans, too.
I think the Internet is exposing scum for what they are and the old way of getting elected by skating some easily manipulated piece of crap isn't working any more. And the Northeast, used to doing it for over a century, is caught completely off guard. 20 years ago, Coakley probably would have won just on the "Kennedy Seat" and party loyalty. Now she's a running joke.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 28, 2012 10:36 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 28, 2012 02:30 PM (VtjlW)
I'm couth as a motherfucker
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 28, 2012 10:36 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: sven10077 at August 28, 2012 10:36 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Vic at August 28, 2012 02:32 PM (YdQQY)
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A more timely comparison would be the OWSers.
Posted by: Soona at August 28, 2012 10:36 AM (zrO2Q)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 28, 2012 10:37 AM (jucos)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 28, 2012 10:37 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Lennon's rotting corpse at August 28, 2012 10:37 AM (/YJYi)
The probability of the GOP taking the Senate is: 93.7%
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 28, 2012 10:37 AM (32do8)
Obama is the guy that bought a letter jacket in the thrift store and shows up at 50 wanting to shoot baskets with 15 year olds, pretending it was his jacket and full of stories about his glory days scoring goal units with the squadron.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 28, 2012 10:37 AM (r4wIV)
he'd be like me if I were a foreign-born communist asswipe
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 28, 2012 10:37 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Soona at August 28, 2012 02:36 PM (zrO2Q)
Nahh, the bums and winos were not trying to burn the world aka Trashcan.
Posted by: Vic at August 28, 2012 10:37 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at August 28, 2012 10:37 AM (9TTOe)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,Vt at August 28, 2012 10:38 AM (48wze)
(For some Godforsaken reason, I have the RNC on C-Span right now, in case you're wondering . . .)
Posted by: filbert at August 28, 2012 10:38 AM (smvTK)
58....Who really thinks after three and a half years "Obama is like me"?
The people who hate America.
(I don't think Romney is like me, either, so I agree with Ace somewhat about the rating. But it's a more formal way of capturing the characteristic of, "Who would you rather have a beer with?" And that I can answer: Romney.)
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at August 28, 2012 02:33 PM (EAk6R)
That would have to be a....Rootbear.
Romney doesn't drink alcohol.
I think that whole thing about Barky's "White House Beer"...is a lead-in to talking about Romney being a tee-totaler.
Posted by: wheatie at August 28, 2012 10:38 AM (5BAYg)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 28, 2012 10:38 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 28, 2012 02:26 PM (VtjlW)
FIFYNNTTMJDMP
Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at August 28, 2012 10:38 AM (73P68)
Besides, nobody really got laid because of the Summer of Love.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 28, 2012 10:38 AM (wcP2i)
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at August 28, 2012 02:33 PM (EAk6R)
I do!
Posted by: "Kenyan" foreign student aid fraudster at August 28, 2012 10:39 AM (ggRof)
Posted by: wierd flunky at August 28, 2012 10:39 AM (tlhtD)
Posted by: sven10077 at August 28, 2012 10:39 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 28, 2012 10:39 AM (Vr3cm)
Oh, wait, here we go:
http://youtu.be/3WPStttiLX0
Posted by: filbert at August 28, 2012 10:40 AM (smvTK)
Posted by: Romney to McCain at August 28, 2012 10:40 AM (NuPNl)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at August 28, 2012 10:40 AM (aHR5E)
Listen Ace, I heard the Meteorologist in Chief telling me to get out of New Orleans (I'm not in New Orleans) because Hurricane Katrina II is coming! If that's not love, I don't know what is.
I could do without that tinny whistle he has in his voice though. It doesn't sound very... in chargish.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 28, 2012 10:41 AM (TOk1P)
China can be safely ignored. They wail and yell and wave their arms around any time nobody is obsequious enough to them, but they are meaningless in the long term. They cannot throw American debt or trade aside or threaten it in any way.
And honestly, the whole nation is run by corrupt murderous scumbags so who cares if they get mad?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 28, 2012 10:41 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at August 28, 2012 10:41 AM (SDkq3)
Posted by: MostlyRight at August 28, 2012 10:41 AM (ZG8Ti)
Posted by: toby928© at August 28, 2012 10:41 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: filbert at August 28, 2012 10:42 AM (smvTK)
And when it drops, they blame everyone and everything but themselves nd their own message.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 28, 2012 10:42 AM (wcP2i)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 28, 2012 10:42 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 28, 2012 10:42 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at August 28, 2012 02:33 PM (EAk6R)
This scrunt.
83 The people of Brattleboro, VT will make sure she doesn't get elected. We are campaigning against her everyday and for Presadent Obama. We love President Obama and will do anything to get him re-elected.......
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,Vt at August 28, 2012 02:38 PM (48wze)
Posted by: Lennon's rotting corpse at August 28, 2012 10:43 AM (/YJYi)
The Magic Johnson ain't got no game, here.
Posted by: Fritz at August 28, 2012 10:43 AM (RuVpG)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 28, 2012 02:34 PM (TMB3S)
He's a regular Paul Revere: "The rains are coming! The rains are coming!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 28, 2012 10:43 AM (7GfKM)
Posted by: Vic at August 28, 2012 10:43 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at August 28, 2012 02:37 PM (YdQQY)
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Many of ole' Charlie Manson's followers had Haight Ashbury backgrounds.
Posted by: Soona at August 28, 2012 10:43 AM (zrO2Q)
Posted by: Adam at August 28, 2012 10:43 AM (/YJYi)
So wait, the murderous Marxist dictators don't like Romney? Sold!
Posted by: mediumheadboy at August 28, 2012 10:44 AM (aHR5E)
People are going to vote for the guy who they think can do the job - move the economy and create jobs.
It's like saying you would vote for the class clown to run your failing company just because he's likable. No.. you want the hard-ass who knows what he's doing to take the helm.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 28, 2012 10:44 AM (f9c2L)
That's so fucking wrong I looked up a transcript later because I thought I misunderstood. I didn't. He's just grossly ignorant.
You'd think that if you were going to go on a national radio show and talk about a subject matter, you'd make sure you knew what you were talking about. Apparently not.
Posted by: dawnfire at August 28, 2012 10:44 AM (eEeH7)
I, for one, am certainly glad we have commentors from Connecticut that we can rely on for advise to win this election.
God knows that conservatives across the land look to Connecticut republicans to relay the impressions of voters with "boots on the ground" knowledge of what people are thinking.
Let's all try to not say anything that would embarrass Jeff B. in front of his friends or ruin our chances of taking this state.
Posted by: jwest at August 28, 2012 10:45 AM (ZDsRL)
Posted by: sven10077 at August 28, 2012 10:45 AM (LRFds)
1. SHOWER ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE...LOCATED ABOUT 1425 MILES SOUTHWEST OF THE AZORES...HAS BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED TODAY. A TROPICAL DEPRESSION COULD FORM AT ANY TIME TODAY OR TONIGHT... BEFORE UPPER-LEVEL WINDS BECOME UNFAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. THIS SYSTEM HAS A MEDIUM CHANCE...50 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS THE LOW MOVES TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST AT 10 TO 15 MPH.
/Don't really wish severe weather on anyone, even Democrat-Socialists, actually . . .
Posted by: filbert at August 28, 2012 10:45 AM (smvTK)
Posted by: Schadenboner at August 28, 2012 10:45 AM (Vr3cm)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 28, 2012 02:42 PM (r4wIV)
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The faux disaster reporting should be hilarious though. Remember the shit they tried to pull last year.
Posted by: Soona at August 28, 2012 10:46 AM (zrO2Q)
Posted by: Soona at August 28, 2012 02:43 PM (zrO2Q)
I doubt if they hung out much there. As I said, it was all bums and winos in 72. I expect it wasn't much different in 68 except when they wanted to do a march in front of the movie/TV cameras.
You know like the weirdos do now.
Posted by: Vic at August 28, 2012 10:46 AM (YdQQY)
If Romney wins....China knows that they will have a rough time screwing us over.
Romney has called them "cheaters", several times.
Trump has already said that he would love to be Commerce Secretary.
It would be a hoot if that happened.
Posted by: wheatie at August 28, 2012 10:46 AM (5BAYg)
I bet Obama would either lecture you for the entire ride or stare out the window with his body language almost screaming he didn't want to have anything to do with you.
If Romney is an ex president someday, he'll be like the first Bush. When Obama is an ex president, he's going to be like...
I don't even have to say, because everyone here knows who.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at August 28, 2012 10:46 AM (EAk6R)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 28, 2012 10:46 AM (32do8)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 28, 2012 10:47 AM (136wp)
Posted by: toby928© at August 28, 2012 10:47 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 28, 2012 02:39 PM (Vr3cm)
And people seem to forget that Dick Morris was warning people about Barky's intention with health scare way back even before the inauguration. He wrote a book predicting the illegal fiasco the was allowed to unfold and was the toughest fighter against that piece of shit long before any "conservative" even thought to worry about it.
I understand that people don't like Dick Morris but for them to ignore and deny how he tried to help America during that whole episode and was one of this nation's strongest defenders and offered the clearest and most direct warnings for the longest time just baffles me.
Dick Morris has worked as hard for conservative values since Barky's sliming into office as anyone - and that's even while he admits that he is still a Democrat at heart but had to leave the America-hating, socialist scum that that party has become.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 28, 2012 10:47 AM (X3lox)
@sven,
Yeah, ace is the Neville Longbottom of the blogosphere.
"EXPELLERAMUS!
Fuck. Double post again."
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 28, 2012 10:47 AM (nHMBg)
Posted by: t-bird at August 28, 2012 10:47 AM (FcR7P)
Don't want to make anyone hyperventilate, but...
Quac poll splits:
Dem 33%, Rep 22%, Ind 40%
D+11? Indies at 40% of the sample?
McMahon is +3 in a poll with D+11?
Believe this one is looking like it'll go in the win column.
Here's a particularly choice "question" from the poll:
"41. In order to reduce the federal budget deficit, do you support or oppose raising income taxes on households making more than $250,000 per year? "
Gosh, toadies for baraka much?
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at August 28, 2012 10:47 AM (ksERZ)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 28, 2012 10:48 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Avi at August 28, 2012 10:48 AM (51xVX)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 28, 2012 10:48 AM (136wp)
Posted by: sven10077 at August 28, 2012 10:48 AM (LRFds)
The point was McMahon is up 3 in a poll with a Dem +11 sample.
Sorry folks.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at August 28, 2012 10:49 AM (ksERZ)
>>I doubt if they hung out much there. As I said, it was all bums and winos in 72.
Tra-la-la-la-la Spaghetti!
Posted by: Troutfishing in America Charlie at August 28, 2012 10:49 AM (ncJgk)
# 115
"China's state-controlled media lashed out at GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney Monday, warning that his policies would poison U.S.-China relations." So wait, the murderous Marxist dictators don't like Romney?
Sold!
It's kind of doubtful Romney is going to be bowing to any despots, or selling America's future away in the hopes that some deranged moonbat that steeps tea from his own socks will come out of his cave to vote for him.
So far....Chavez lurves him some JEF, as does Zombie Castro. And Putin. China, of course.
That's quite a distinguished stable of endorsements the jug-eared shitweasel has amassed, and all the more reason to send him and the Mooch packing come January.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 28, 2012 10:49 AM (L7hol)
BION, in the original ruling on the Migratory Bird Treaty the SOBs did rule that. After the country went into an uproar and an effort was mounted for an amendment to kill that ruling they reversed on another case.
Posted by: Vic at August 28, 2012 10:49 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 28, 2012 10:50 AM (8y9MW)
When Obama is an ex president, he's going to be like...
I don't even have to say, because everyone here knows who.
No. Obama is going to be his own, unique train-wreck.
Posted by: fluffy at August 28, 2012 10:50 AM (O6q63)
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at August 28, 2012 02:46 PM (EAk6R)
Well I for one certainly don't know who you speak of. I do know that jooos are evil murderers and that when the current president is an ex president, he will make known his opinion is the same as mine.
Posted by: Jimmah Cartah at August 28, 2012 10:50 AM (/YJYi)
That's so fucking wrong I looked up a transcript later because I thought I misunderstood. I didn't. He's just grossly ignorant.
You'd think that if you were going to go on a national radio show and talk about a subject matter, you'd make sure you knew what you were talking about. Apparently not.
I think he's basing this on a law that was past in the early 20th Century relating to migratory birds; SCOTUS found it unconstitutional. A treaty doing the same thing was signed by POTUS and approved by the Senate. SCOTUS ruled that the treaty was constitutional (forgot their reasoning). All of this was pre-FDR, I believe.
This may be where Morris is coming from.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 28, 2012 10:50 AM (wcP2i)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 28, 2012 10:50 AM (r4wIV)
121 Schadenfreude requires Charlotte to be the target of next week's hurricane:
Don't really wish severe weather on anyone, even Democrat-Socialists, actually.
Posted by: filbert at August 28, 2012 02:45 PM (smvTK)
It would be named Hurricane Kenya, yes?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 28, 2012 10:51 AM (7GfKM)
Posted by: Reality Check at August 28, 2012 10:51 AM (hvzWz)
Posted by: Soona at August 28, 2012 02:46 PM (zrO2Q)
Isn't there a clip out there of some reporter in a canoe, talking about flooding, and a bystander walks through the clip in like ankle deep water?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 28, 2012 10:52 AM (da5Wo)
Western states have COUNTIES bigger than most of the northeastern states combined.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 28, 2012 10:52 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: t-bird at August 28, 2012 10:52 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Shepard Smith at August 28, 2012 10:52 AM (msPO3)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 28, 2012 10:52 AM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 28, 2012 10:53 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Avi at August 28, 2012 10:53 AM (51xVX)
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 28, 2012 10:53 AM (zrpqj)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 28, 2012 10:53 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: Hobojerky at August 28, 2012 10:53 AM (1QQfq)
>>Isn't there a clip out there of some reporter in a canoe, talking about flooding, and a bystander walks through the clip in like ankle deep water?
That was Good Morning America, I think.
Posted by: garrett at August 28, 2012 10:54 AM (ncJgk)
Posted by: Just Testing at August 28, 2012 10:54 AM (Vr3cm)
Sweet jeebus. One of my Obamabot SILs is a fucking "life coach."
And she's mean as hell and bat-shit crazy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 28, 2012 10:54 AM (UOM48)
http://tinyurl.com/9rnts3z
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The Chinese media and Tom Friedman.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 28, 2012 10:54 AM (Hx5uv)
He's going to be like a candidate, because his ego is going to guarantee that he will run again in 2016.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 28, 2012 10:54 AM (32do8)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 28, 2012 02:52 PM (da5Wo)
Michelle Kosinski: http://newsbusters.org/node/2199
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 28, 2012 10:54 AM (X3lox)
137125 Wheatie,
Mitt can use food and shale to undermine th trade deficit and offer tariff retribution if they get hard
Posted by: sven10077 at August 28, 2012 02:48 PM (LRFds)
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Yep...among other things.
I would also hope to see China's status as a "Developing Nation"....removed.
They have a fucking Space Program!
It's outrageous that they keep getting classified as a 'Developing Nation'.
Posted by: wheatie at August 28, 2012 10:55 AM (5BAYg)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work, team dagny at August 28, 2012 10:55 AM (0FuBj)
I was there in 66 because I'm just that much hipper than the restayaz.
Posted by: comatus at August 28, 2012 10:55 AM (qaVK+)
And she's mean as hell and bat-shit crazy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 28, 2012 02:54 PM (UOM4
Jane Lynch is your SIL????
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 28, 2012 10:56 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 28, 2012 10:56 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 28, 2012 10:57 AM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Cricket at August 28, 2012 10:57 AM (DrC22)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 28, 2012 10:57 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2012 10:57 AM (XvHmy)
That's far too optimistic a number. I would still put this at 60%/40% in favor of Murphy, and that's at best. You have to remember that Murphy will be able to rely on the natural Dem tilt of the state plus the election year Obama effect.
What gives me real hope, however is the fact that there are so few undecideds in that Quinnipiac poll. McMahon is already near 49%, not merely leading by something like 44% to 41%, where the undecideds could be expected to 'come home' to the Democrats come November. Given that she's very near the crest of the wave, Murphy needs to drive her numbers DOWN with attack ads. And Murphy doesn't have a chance in hell at competing with her in the airwave wars without a massive assist (that would drain beaucoup bucks from other races) from the DNC and its associated Super-PACs.
You have to give a lot of credit to McMahon and her team, by the way. I was upset when she won the nomination in 2010, thinking her an imminent disaster and embarrassment. And indeed she was soundly defeated by Blumenthal, but you need to realize that despite his Vietnam issues he was still the most widely-loved politician in the history of the state, pretty much, running in a year where New England saw (if anything) a mild backlash to the O'Donnell/Angle Tea Party 'craziness' hurt the GOP. But as a candidate McMahon was shockingly polished and professional. She destroyed Blumenthal at the debate, never committed any gaffes, and did the best she could against the inevitable WWE-based attacks.
This time, she not only has already been introduced to the state and somewhat immunized from the anti-wrestling stuff, she has been amazingly well prepared. She was BLANKETING New York City TV with positive ads during the Olympics and even before that -- that's mega-bucks expenditure in America's most expensive market, but hitting the most populous part of CT when Murphy was just some nobody running in a primary. She's been laying the groundwork on a grassroots level since 2011 too, doing tons of in-person appearances. Her TV experience has served her well.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 28, 2012 10:57 AM (Z2wcK)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 28, 2012 02:57 PM (YjDyJ)
Are dissidents = Paul Bots?
Posted by: Vic at August 28, 2012 10:57 AM (YdQQY)
124 -
They called it the Summer of Love (in '6
precisely because for a few short months, it was. It didn't last long. Manson went there precisely because there were so many naive (and to some extent innocent) young hippie chicks who would listen to his b.s. and think him a prophet.
So yeah, the area got ugly real fast, and by late summer kids were begging to get out of there. Some of them made it. Some didn't.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 28, 2012 10:58 AM (TOk1P)
They have a fucking Space Program!
It's outrageous that they keep getting classified as a 'Developing Nation'.
Posted by: wheatie at August 28, 2012 02:55 PM (5BAYg)
I would reclassify them as a "Festering Boil". Seriously.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 28, 2012 10:58 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/i][/u][/b] at August 28, 2012 10:58 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Stuart Smalley at August 28, 2012 10:59 AM (QbKVX)
Posted by: t-bird at August 28, 2012 10:59 AM (FcR7P)
It's more correct to refer them as Vagina Management Consultants.
Posted by: Naomi Wolf at August 28, 2012 11:00 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 28, 2012 11:01 AM (05RcU)
The Doctors and Hospitals in the area quit accepting them.
Posted by: Vic at August 28, 2012 11:01 AM (YdQQY)
The Summer of Love is over, kids. I know you'd prefer to live in it always but that's just not possible, and the rest of us are starting to worry about you.
Actually I think we've gone past the "worrying about you" phase and are now in the "you had a chance, kid, now sit down and shut up before I plant a fist in your face" stage. It's therapeutic.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/i][/u][/b] at August 28, 2012 11:01 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 28, 2012 11:01 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 28, 2012 02:52 PM (da5Wo)
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Yup. Expect more of the same this year. Speaking of. Getting a first-hand, excited report, live from Sheppy right now.
Posted by: Soona at August 28, 2012 11:01 AM (zrO2Q)
Posted by: Barry O, Muslim Outreach Coordinator at August 28, 2012 11:02 AM (FcR7P)
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My guess is that the lame duck period will be so ugly that the Obamas will have dug themselves a hole that they can never dig out of.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 28, 2012 11:02 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 28, 2012 11:02 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 28, 2012 11:03 AM (05RcU)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 28, 2012 11:03 AM (da5Wo)
What other 'Developing Nation' has one of those?
We have one, ignorant imperialist dog lackey! And if heroic socialist peoples' dredging operations fail to recover it soon, certain people will be shot.
Posted by: Kim Jong Un at August 28, 2012 11:03 AM (QKKT0)
I don't know about the PACs, but I thought I read somewhere that Obama had completely dominated the DNC and almost all of the available cash was going to him, to the detriment of the Senate candidates.
Posted by: The Q at August 28, 2012 11:03 AM (B/yDO)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 28, 2012 11:04 AM (YjDyJ)
Should I make popcorn?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 28, 2012 02:57 PM (UOM4
Just get him on TV and off my ass.
Posted by: The Chicken at August 28, 2012 11:04 AM (3ZjAP)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 28, 2012 11:05 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Big T Party(on vacation) at August 28, 2012 11:05 AM (EhUTA)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 28, 2012 11:05 AM (TMB3S)
The Summer of Love is over, kids. I know you'd prefer to live in it always but that's just not possible, and the rest of us are starting to worry about you."
If that isn't a rhetorical slap across the back of the old hat-rack then I don't know what is.
Posted by: Mikey NTH putting on the old hubris and stepping out at August 28, 2012 11:05 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: The Guy Who Would Like To Say "FINISH HIM!" at August 28, 2012 11:05 AM (FcR7P)
now in the "you had a chance, kid, bless your heart, now sit down and shut up before I
plant a fist in your face" stage. It's therapeutic.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 28, 2012 03:03 PM (da5Wo)
Well remembered, BCochran. Well remembered.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/i][/u][/b] at August 28, 2012 11:06 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: cynder ella at August 28, 2012 11:06 AM (oZfic)
212 Shep, you idiot. Turn your silly hat around.
He must have heard you, Jane.....he turned it around.
Posted by: wheatie at August 28, 2012 11:08 AM (5BAYg)
Posted by: Roy at August 28, 2012 11:08 AM (VndSC)
"And remember, come Thursday, Romney has a whole ton of money to unleash the Cracken with."
And even better than that. The Debates...
Posted by: HH at August 28, 2012 11:08 AM (v+ExF)
I know this is an AOSHQ meme, but if I'm ever rich, I'm setting some cash aside just for fleecing InTrade suckers.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 28, 2012 11:09 AM (32do8)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 28, 2012 11:09 AM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Vic at August 28, 2012 03:07 PM (YdQQY)
Hmm . . . the Valu-Rite vodka, or the water . . . decisions, decisions . . .
Posted by: filbert at August 28, 2012 11:10 AM (smvTK)
Posted by: The Q at August 28, 2012 03:03 PM (B/yDO)
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You thought, correctly.
Posted by: Soona at August 28, 2012 11:10 AM (zrO2Q)
Posted by: wheatie at August 28, 2012 02:55 PM (5BAYg)
When you hate the US enough, it is easy to classify China as a developing nation!
Posted by: Hrothgar (Dagny Aficionado ) at August 28, 2012 11:11 AM (Cnqmv)
What is a better job offer?
$72k salary at a full time position that is 35 minute commute?
Or...
$40/h at an open ended contract that is 50 minute commute?
Take the full time job. Unless there is garanteed overtime of 60-72 hrs a week, you will lose money on the contract job. Remember contract work does not include benefits like VACATION AND SICK TIME. You are responsible for all the taxes and paperwork too.
Posted by: rd at August 28, 2012 11:11 AM (9sUlj)
Being black in the Democratic Party is a tremendous advantage, but there's no way Obana comes back from that kind of loss to win in 2016. Losing at all will be hard to overcome.
I also don't think Obama will want to work that hard again. This go round he's had it easy in the primaries, and the fund-raising is still cutting into his leisure time. He'll have to campaign for more than two years with much less chance of getting anything for his efforts.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at August 28, 2012 11:13 AM (EAk6R)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 28, 2012 11:13 AM (QF8uk)
$72k salary at a full time position that is 35 minute commute?
Or...
$40/h at an open ended contract that is 50 minute commute?
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 28, 2012 02:26 PM (zrpqj)
I'd go with the $72k position unless significant over-time is anticipated. Fringe benefits and fuel savings would probably make up the difference because $40/hr is approximated $80k/year.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at August 28, 2012 11:17 AM (3P3G8)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 28, 2012 11:17 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work, team dagny at August 28, 2012 11:19 AM (0FuBj)
Posted by: Cornfed at August 28, 2012 11:24 AM (Hoy9u)
Most people know the Media is completely in the tank for Obama. The Media wants Obama reelected, along with all the other Dems.
So, the Media calls the Voter for a poll. "Do you like President Obama?"
The Voter remembers how Joe the Plumber was treated by the Media. The Voter likely thinks that if he says, "No, I don't find him likeable," the Media will thank him, then move on to the next person to call. If that person says he likes Obama, the Media can easily say, "Did you know your neighbor at 123 Main Street doesn't like Obama? What do you think you can do about that?"
The Voter, having thought all that, says "Yeah, I like Obama."
It's not that big a mystery really.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 28, 2012 11:25 AM (P7hip)
Posted by: Barack Obama is still a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 28, 2012 11:27 AM (qxcKC)
You seem to be referring to Missouri v. Holland, 252 US 416 (1920). Without access to Westlaw or anything right now, here is part of the holding summary from Wiki: "Treaties made by the federal government are supreme over any state concerns about such treaties having abrogated any states' rights arising under the Tenth Amendment."
That's "when states' rights conflict with federal treaty-making power, the feds rule the day." That is NOT "treaties trump the constitution." (which was very firmly reiterated in Reid v. Covert, 354 US 1 (1957) ("There is nothing new or unique about what we say here. This Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty." Followed by a footnote listing five other cases, including Marbury, and this even though the case at bench was about executive agreements and not treaties.)
Federal treaties (when self-executing, which most are not) have the same precedence as any other Act of Congress. When federal law conflicts with a treaty, the most recently enacted one controls. It's actually extremely simple.
But anyway, the guy's premise was completely, un-supportably, ridiculously false and he did nothing but rile up the ignorant (like my dad, who believed this absurdity because "it's Dick Morris!"), perpetuate a falsehood, and make himself look stupid to everyone else. And as someone else mentioned, he's very often wrong in his prognostications.
Not a winner in my book, and no one to quote for support.
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