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October 25, 2012

Rasmussen: 49% Say Romney Won The Debates, 41% Say Obama
— Ace

Immortal image from MSNBC on the night of October 3rd.
Picture credit: Blessed Blasphemy

Before the debates, people were saying "Debates don't matter." There's a reason for that -- they usually don't. In most debates, while someone is acknowledged as a "winner," it's really a close thing. I agreed with this guy on this, with the other guy on that. I liked this line, it made me laugh. This guy made a good point here.

It's a very even thing. Someone "wins," but, you know, barely.

So that's why it doesn't change numbers.

Now, obviously, that was not what happened in the October 3rd debate. The October 3rd debate was a demolition, or, as Jay Mohr called it, a "curbstomp."

The successive debates were like the usual sort of "debate." Someone "won," as usual, but without actually making an impression or impact.

The game was played over four quarters. Romney ran up the score 35-0 in the first quarter. The remaining quarters were (arguably) 7-6 in slight favor of Obama. (I actually think Romney and Ryan won all of them on substance.)

Overall, the game was still a decisive loss for Obama.

One thing that's been annoying me is the reaction by liberals. They understood -- they knew -- Obama got his head handed to him in the first debate. And they also realized, then, that Obama had to be said to have done the same to Romney in successive debates.

That's why you've seen this furious spinning from liberals that Obama (and even Biden!) somehow "destroyed" Romney and Ryan and later debates.

They knew they were destroyed by that debate; they were furiously trying to gin up the meme that Obama had done the same in return to Romney.

But no one believed that, not even they themselves. They understood the following debates were like the usual "Debates don't matter" situation; someone arguably came out ahead on debate points, but no one really "won" in any genuine way.

Even worse, they failed to understand that Romney and Ryan were winning the debates on the grounds they actually fought on. Understanding that they were actually ahead (or soon would be) based on the October 3 debate, their strategy from that point out was to reassure voters who were already beginning to incline towards them, to offer confirmation that their October 3rd hunch was correct.

They did just that.

Obama, on the other hand, hand a much steeper hill to climb: He had to attempt to prove that Romney's first performance was some kind of wild fluke, and that he was unqualified for office, no matter what that first debate suggested.

He failed at that. That's why he's continued to lose ground.

There's an interesting structure to this campaign that I think I'm the first to explicitly mention. It occurs to me just now.

It had been argued, previously, that Romney wanted a "Referendum" election, and Obama wanted a "Choice" election.

Romney wanted a straight referendum on Obama's performance, whereas Obama wanted people to only consider the contest in terms of Obama vs. Romney.

Obama's ad strategy -- a year of demonizing Romney -- was aimed at disqualifying Romney. And it was mostly successful -- after all, just before the debates, Obama had something like a four or five point national lead.

Obama's negative campaign actually changed the structure of the race so that it wasn't a Referendum on Obama, but in fact a Referendum on Romney-- and Romney was losing that Referendum until Oct. 3rd.

The October 3rd debate changed that. Suddenly, Romney was a perfectly reasonable, perfectly acceptable candidate, and so it became either a Referendum on Obama, which he loses, or a Choice between Romney and Obama, which Obama also loses.

Obama never had anything else but that negative campaign on Romney. Now that that's gone, he's reduced to Binders Full of Birth Control and Romnesia and a silly Big Picture children's book called "Obama's New Agenda for a 2nd Term."

In a way, Obama might have been hurt a bit by his Negative Ad blitz working too well for a while, encouraging him to rely on nothing but that.

At any rate. Obama lost the debates. This was obvious to any fair viewer, whether conservative, moderate, liberal, Republican, Independent, or Democrat.

I'm glad that the absurd spin over that fact will finally stop.

Posted by: Ace at 03:20 PM | Comments (197)
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1 the president is a lying scoamf

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny, ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 at October 25, 2012 03:21 PM (Ho2rs)

2 1st beaches!

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 25, 2012 03:21 PM (8sCoq)

3 FUCK

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 25, 2012 03:21 PM (8sCoq)

4 Small point? LOL

Posted by: Truman North at October 25, 2012 03:22 PM (1/eF6)

5 First!

Posted by: Obamath at October 25, 2012 03:22 PM (R18D0)

6 Curbstomp dounds a little too American History X.

Posted by: Concern Troll at October 25, 2012 03:23 PM (b1iOR)

7 *sounds

Posted by: Concern Troll at October 25, 2012 03:23 PM (b1iOR)

8 It's almost like Romney developed a strategic plan and then carried it out or something.

I will freely admit that I need to eat crow about many many many of the things I said about Romney during the primaries. All I ask is that I be allowed to wash down the crow with a nummy hateshake.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 25, 2012 03:24 PM (Gk3SS)

9 Has there been a post about Obama's newest, pathetic ad yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os0F4-XFf6w

Posted by: Y-not at October 25, 2012 03:24 PM (5H6zj)

10 I'm still worried about how many say they are going to be paid by the dems to vote numerous times.

Posted by: Dang© at October 25, 2012 03:25 PM (R18D0)

11 Ace, I humbly request you watch Obamas new campaign ad and mock it mercilessly.

Posted by: Big T Party at October 25, 2012 03:25 PM (EhUTA)

12 That screenshot is beautiful.

Posted by: Lauren at October 25, 2012 03:26 PM (wsGWu)

13 The first debate did two things -- first, it showed the country that Romney is a pretty ducking smart, level-headed guy with some significant charisma (or at least stage presence), and second, it allowed them to, finally, look at Obama in light of Romney's domination, and say to themselves, "Nah, he ain't that wonderful."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 25, 2012 03:26 PM (2b4yb)

14 who are the two guys in the picture? or is it drag queens? I'm confoozled

Posted by: mallfly at October 25, 2012 03:26 PM (bJm7W)

15 Levin just played the Obama ad with nubile chicks describing "what their first time should be." i.e. voting for SCOAMF. It was vile. Felt like taking a shower.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 25, 2012 03:26 PM (+tqYo)

From last thread, just up on The Blaze. "Biden Consoles SEAL's father." Must read.

http://bit.ly/Rjh8NI

Posted by: RushBabe at October 25, 2012 03:26 PM (tQHzJ)

17 I'm nervous, don't like the polls being so close. I will be volunteering in my slightly red state and ask that all you people who want to see Romney win do the same. This race is too close for comfort, don't let Obama slip in and ruin this country.

Posted by: Pauly Poundstone at October 25, 2012 03:26 PM (I1MMF)

Rasmussen is a Dem...so this has got to hurt.

Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 03:26 PM (ipkPX)

19 Ace is at his best when he's in a manic phase .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at October 25, 2012 03:27 PM (lo/S5)

20 I was really surprised at the number of viewers the 3rd debate had. It was competing with NCLS game and MNF....and still got 60M.

Posted by: Tami at October 25, 2012 03:27 PM (X6akg)

21 From last thread, just up on The Blaze. "Biden Consoles SEAL's father." Must read. http://bit.ly/Rjh8NI Posted by: RushBabe ACE biden consols father loss of son by asking about his genetalia

Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 03:27 PM (Dnbau)

22 Off Topic a little, but anyone here see this ad for Barky..
wtf
It's like losing your virginity
http://youtu.be/o6G3nwhPuR4
Posted by: spypeach

I made it about 12 seconds or so before I had to bail on it. Do I win something? Has anyone been able to stand more of it?

Posted by: Dang© at October 25, 2012 03:28 PM (R18D0)

23 Mmmm...... Maddow is teh hawt.

Posted by: Jon! at October 25, 2012 03:28 PM (/YJYi)

24 The debates showed Obama and Biden to be unserious candidates.

Posted by: zmdavid at October 25, 2012 03:28 PM (YN8Jb)

25 Really LOVE that screen cap....Epic Lickspittle LefTard BUTTHURT in living color.

I think it'll be much more entertaining come election night....

Posted by: Portnoy at October 25, 2012 03:28 PM (A5Abh)

26 who are the two guys in the picture? or is it drag queens? I'm confoozled Posted by: mallfly

It's Ms. Cashewhead and Mr. Gibbering Rageballoon

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 25, 2012 03:28 PM (DKxu1)

27 I made it about 12 seconds or so before I had to bail on it. Do I win something?

Lena Dunham just got a $3.5 million book advance. That SMOD summoning is looking better and better isn't it?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 25, 2012 03:29 PM (Gk3SS)

Dang,

I watched the whole thing thinking it was going to be a joke. Ewww

I need a shower.

Posted by: spypeach at October 25, 2012 03:29 PM (pwTow)

29 They've been played.

Romney won each debate based upon his own standard of "winning"

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 03:29 PM (piMMO)

30 Posted by: mallfly at October 25, 2012 07:26 PM (bJm7W)

The guy on the left plays lacrosse at the local JC.

The guy on the right is the drunk with puke on his shoes about six stools down from you...take a look!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 25, 2012 03:29 PM (2b4yb)

31 Getting pretentious and arrogant is not a winning argument in a debate. Only superior ideas well presented win.
Obama had the same old ideas delivered with more volume and assholery in the last debates. And obvious cheating which America detests.

Posted by: Beto at October 25, 2012 03:29 PM (BAnPT)

32 10 Has there been a post about Obama's newest, pathetic ad yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os0F4-XFf6w OMG

Posted by: Crashpanic at October 25, 2012 03:29 PM (vEcaw)

33 Obama ad with nubile chicks describing "what their first time should be."

They're apparently talking about getting fucked in the ass.

Posted by: Dang© at October 25, 2012 03:29 PM (R18D0)

34 Ya know, if Maddow was such a raging fucking leftie, she'd be okay to have on our side.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 03:30 PM (piMMO)

35 They're apparently talking about getting fucked in the ass.

****

Well, why not. The rest of us have been.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 03:31 PM (piMMO)

36 geez, that's an ad for Obama? are they going for the unemployable but tattooed yoof vote..?

Posted by: mallfly at October 25, 2012 03:31 PM (bJm7W)

37 #& yes, I saw the "losing your virginity" ad on "Legal Insurrection" site. I am appalled by the utter classlessness of it. I am even more appalled that there are clueless women which this might appeal to.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2012 03:31 PM (u1lkY)

38 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2012 03:32 PM (6o4Fb)

First debate....Barky looked like a sullen child who hadn't studied.

Second debate....He brought a cheat sheet and he was the Teacher's Pet.

Third debate.....Barky was full of petty snark and looked even smaller than before.

Romney, on the other hand, was the same even-tempered grown-up...in each debate.

It's heartening to see that enough people out there saw what was really going on.

Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 03:32 PM (ipkPX)

40 That rat-a-tat-tat-tat voice is so damn annoying. And all inked up? She probably can't remember her first time through the peyote drug haze.

Posted by: Dang© at October 25, 2012 03:32 PM (R18D0)

41 Picture should be called "The Lamentation of Their Women." Also, I think that the campaign sent the President his notes in hypertechnical jargon, and no one can be expected to understand that.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 25, 2012 03:32 PM (/1U3u)

42 If, for some reason, we get through the election and by an act of God, Romney wins, I will not look forward to four years of Romney bashing by the media.

Posted by: shibumi at October 25, 2012 03:32 PM (z63Tr)

43 ^That was supposed to be for post #7.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2012 03:32 PM (u1lkY)

44 Debate? What's a "bate"?

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 25, 2012 03:32 PM (0CiTm)

The debate heard around the world... This will be remebered for a long time if Romney wins. They will say the debate was when everything changed.

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 25, 2012 03:32 PM (nTgAI)

46 Lena Dunham: Your First Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6G3nwhPuR4

This stupid bitch equates voting for obama to popping your cherry

This is the most insane ad i have ever seen

Beyond creepy and the only thing missing is the choir of children in the background singing

yes we can
yes yes
yes we can

Freaked me out fully....

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 25, 2012 03:32 PM (ovpNn)

47 34 Obama ad with nubile chicks describing "what their first time should be." They're apparently talking about getting fucked in the ass. Posted by: DangÂ© at October 25, 2012 07:29 PM (R18D0) Q: What are the 3 best things about anal sex? A: Location, location, location.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 25, 2012 03:32 PM (+tqYo)

48 Speaking of wild flukes, Sandra (the Fluke) spoke to MASSIVE crowds over the weekend. I mean tens of people were there. Actually, ten people, but it made for a very crowded parking space there.

Posted by: Ali Gore (PBUH) at October 25, 2012 03:32 PM (QxhpV)

Posted by: Tami at October 25, 2012 07:27 PM (X6akg)

The NLCS game was practically over / 5-0 / by the time the debate atarted. And notice how many watched Fox. There is a definite enthusiam gap between the dems and the republicans.

Posted by: RD is done mocking the Obama Osama movies winghutz! at October 25, 2012 03:33 PM (zLp5I)

Just saw this ad from American Crossroads in Ohio. Its titled "Bow"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFcuCETdrc4

Posted by: buzzion at October 25, 2012 03:33 PM (GULKT)

51 btw anyone notice the last name? dunham

LOOKS LIKE THEY FOUND ANOTHER STUPID BITCH THAT DIDNT THINK BEFORE SHE OPENED HER PIE HOLE.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 25, 2012 03:33 PM (ovpNn)

52 Rachel looks like she needs to hug her wife

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at October 25, 2012 03:34 PM (6/bOE)

53 43 If, for some reason, we get through the election and by an act of God, Romney wins, I will not look forward to four years of Romney bashing by the media. Posted by: shibumi at October 25, 2012 07:32 PM (z63Tr) Meh. We just lived through 4 years of them bashing us.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 25, 2012 03:34 PM (+tqYo)

54 OMG that "first" time add for obama... could it get any more pathetic?

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 25, 2012 03:34 PM (9+ccr)

55 What's also interesting about the debates is that viewership never really dropped off. Americans are ENGAGED in this election. Bad news for Obama I think.

Posted by: I'll Release My Credit Score To Help The Poor With Trump's $$$$ at October 25, 2012 03:34 PM (AzwZn)

56 Didn't that dude on the left work the ABC debate panels during the liveblogs ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at October 25, 2012 03:34 PM (lo/S5)

57 56 OMG that "first" time add for obama... could it get any more pathetic?

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 25, 2012 07:34 PM (9+ccr)

THey need to put up click through ads on that video to this site

headostate.com

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 25, 2012 03:35 PM (ovpNn)

58 9 It's almost like Romney developed a strategic plan and then carried it out or something. I will freely admit that I need to eat crow about many many many of the things I said about Romney during the primaries. All I ask is that I be allowed to wash down the crow with a nummy hateshake. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 25, 2012 07:24 PM (Gk3SS) I was not a fan, either. I was ABO. Now, I am ecstatically Romney/Ryan. Well, since I can't have SP. :-)

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 25, 2012 03:35 PM (2Bc2e)

59 That dude on the left has a bigger dick than the dude on the right

Posted by: Beto at October 25, 2012 03:35 PM (BAnPT)

60 Rachel looks like she needs to hug her wife. ----------------------------------- Chris Matthews looks like he lost his wife...............to Rachel Maddow.

Posted by: I'll Release My Credit Score To Help The Poor With Trump's $$$$ at October 25, 2012 03:35 PM (AzwZn)

61 9 It's almost like Romney developed a strategic plan and then carried it out or something.

I will freely admit that I need to eat crow about many many many of the things I said about Romney during the primaries. All I ask is that I be allowed to wash down the crow with a nummy hateshake.

Same here. It's sure hard to get those feathers down without choking.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 25, 2012 03:35 PM (BuSM8)

62 Maddow has perfected Michelle O's scowl. They're like ebony and ivory.

Does that make you horny?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at October 25, 2012 03:36 PM (6WVi+)

63 BTW - Is she supposed to be a celebrity or something?

I'm being serious. Are we supposed to know her?

Posted by: Dang© at October 25, 2012 03:36 PM (R18D0)

64 First time girl (HA!) and her innuendo ridden ad can take her artsy little "films" and her book contract and shove it up her undoubtedly commodious lady parts.

Posted by: huerfano at October 25, 2012 03:36 PM (bAGA/)

I will NOT be ignored, Ace.

Posted by: Big Bird listening to Madame Butterfly at October 25, 2012 03:36 PM (O6q63)

66 That Lolobama ad... They don't expect us to believe that woman sleeps with men, do they? LOL

Posted by: Truman North at October 25, 2012 03:37 PM (1/eF6)

67 but the new war on tampons thing is going to hurt us.

Posted by: joeindc44 will start talking like biden. like. biden. at October 25, 2012 03:37 PM (QxSug)

68 Didn't that dude on the left work the ABC debate panels during the liveblogs ? Posted by: Bill D. Cat

Looks like Chris had a premature squirt and Rachel was feeling bad for him.

Posted by: Dang© at October 25, 2012 03:37 PM (R18D0)

69 Light, blinded by, they be.

Posted by: Manfred Mann's Earth Band at October 25, 2012 03:37 PM (dtmsl)

70 Someone grab that video before it vanishes down the memory hole

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 25, 2012 03:37 PM (ovpNn)

71 55 43 If, for some reason, we get through the election and by an act of God, Romney wins, I will not look forward to four years of Romney bashing by the media. Posted by: shibumi at October 25, 2012 07:32 PM (z63Tr) Get used to it. They will probably be pining for Bush. It. will. be. bad.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 25, 2012 03:37 PM (2Bc2e)

72 because all true religious people have been yearning to cut down on feminine products, or as we call them, the devils sponge

Posted by: joeindc44 will start talking like biden. like. biden. at October 25, 2012 03:37 PM (QxSug)

73 Well the girl? in the ad looked a little bit like old Maddow.... Loved the tats and the 'oh my God we need a president who gives us our birth control. WTF?

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 25, 2012 03:38 PM (9+ccr)

74 OT: Devastating interview with the father of one of the SEALS killed in Benghazi.

http://soundcloud.com/thelarslarsonshow/charles-woods-father-of-former

Posted by: Il Padrino at October 25, 2012 03:38 PM (O+/8o)

75 and yeah, the other thing, keeping up the metaphor, the libyan bullshit artist going on in debate 2 with the moderator is like obama pulling a flea flicker with an extradown that ed hochuli accidently gave to the other team. which was intercepted.

Posted by: joeindc44 will start talking like biden. like. biden. at October 25, 2012 03:38 PM (QxSug)

76 This guy wins the internets:

Mark Hemingway ‏@Heminator
If voting is like sex, does that mean Obama is Chlamydia and penicillin costs $5 trillion?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 25, 2012 03:38 PM (DKxu1)

77 Grandpa, what did you do in the War on Women?
I shoveled condoms from Sandy Fluke's bedroom.

Posted by: Beto at October 25, 2012 03:38 PM (BAnPT)

78 That's that tubby little chick with the show on HBO ....that I've watched for about 30 seconds when I saw her flabby ass naked as I was flipping through the channels...

You go girl!!! Get some more cool tats too...they're so endearing and make you look sexy and smart.

Posted by: Portnoy at October 25, 2012 03:39 PM (A5Abh)

79 BTW - Is she supposed to be a celebrity or something?

I'm being serious. Are we supposed to know her?

She's the new Diablo Cody. She's the one who came up with Girls (which is boring boring boring and not at all shocking) and she just got a $3.5 million advance for a book deal.

I actually kind of liked Tiny Furniture though.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 25, 2012 03:39 PM (Gk3SS)

80 I'm flipping channels and I see the MSM is giving that piece of shit all the free face time they can spare.

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 25, 2012 03:39 PM (0CiTm)

81 ...we don't need no thought control...

Posted by: Pink Floyd at October 25, 2012 03:39 PM (dtmsl)

82 Is this turning into another tampon thread?

(See what I did there?)

Posted by: Dang© at October 25, 2012 03:39 PM (R18D0)

That dude on the left has a bigger dick than the dude on the right

Posted by: Beto at October 25, 2012 07:35 PM (BAnPT)

And it's life-like too!

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 25, 2012 03:39 PM (zLp5I)

84 Don't be surprised if this inane ad gets taken down...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 25, 2012 03:40 PM (9+ccr)

85 That picture is a classic.... There 2 faces after the first debate ... Shit makes me giggle...

Posted by: Sam at October 25, 2012 03:40 PM (FWINB)

86 No no no, Gerg assures me that TFG is totally winning and the election is lop-sided, and that's good enough for me.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 03:40 PM (aHR5E)

87 I'm flipping channels and I see the MSM is giving that piece of shit all the free face time they can spare. Posted by: USS Diversity at October 25, 2012 07:39 PM

They can only show so many Japanese game show ripoffs.

Posted by: huerfano at October 25, 2012 03:40 PM (bAGA/)

88 After Perry's awful start,I started turning to Romney.I was gentle with my fellow morons but I kept a steady "look I don't like Romney either,but...".

Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2012 03:40 PM (6o4Fb)

89 The worst part about Girls is that Lena Dunham actually gets nekkid.

Posted by: Adam at October 25, 2012 03:41 PM (/YJYi)

90 That picture is a classic....
Posted by: Sam at October 25, 2012 07:40 PM

It's my new wallpaper

Posted by: Beto at October 25, 2012 03:41 PM (BAnPT)

Maybe its because Obama's campaign was based completely on lies: Romney was this or that. The economy is doing well. Obama has a plan. Foreign policy is going along nicely. Obama is nice, smart guy.

People started paying attention. People saw the debates, Romney was fine. The economy sucks, Obama has no plan. Foreign policy is collapsing. Obama is an arrogant, condescending, dumba$s.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at October 25, 2012 03:41 PM (Rrc6j)

92 90 After Perry's awful start,I started turning to Romney.I was gentle with my fellow morons but I kept a steady "look I don't like Romney either,but...".

Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2012 07:40 PM (6o4Fb)

Perry was my choice too, but Mitt has earned my vote...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 25, 2012 03:41 PM (9+ccr)

93 biden consoles father loss of son by asking about his genitalia

I'm not entirely 100% sure about the results of this election -- at least final electoral count -- but one thing I'm sure of is that Joe Biden deserves to be on the Alzheimer's wing of an assisted living facility. Soon, real soon.

There's no way he should be a 'heartbeat' away from the nuclear football. He's slipping into dementia faster then the speed of light in a vacuum.

Posted by: The VAST Right Wing Conspiracy at October 25, 2012 03:41 PM (feFL6)

94 She's the new Diablo Cody.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon.

And she is... ?

Never mind. I give up.

Posted by: Dang© at October 25, 2012 03:41 PM (R18D0)

95
"I'm nervous, don't like the polls being so close."

I'm nervous too. Especially when I hear people confidently talk about this election like it's in the bag for Romney. I've heard talk like that before and it's sometimes been a disaster.

Senator Al Franken was once thought by those of us on the right to be a laughable implausibility. We got cocky and let down our guard. Then, thanks to a bunch of felons and illegal aliens and corpses voting, and some very aggressive liberal lawyering during a recount, Senator Al Franken became a horrible reality.

Just as a second term for Obama could become a horrible reality.

Do. Not. Take. This. Election. For. Granted.

Do. Not. Slack. Off.

GOTV!

Posted by: torquewrench at October 25, 2012 03:41 PM (ymG7s)

96 I think I saw that fat scrunt Dunham with two of her fat ugly tattooed friends at the supermarket yesterday buying three bags of doritos and a case of coke on her ebt card. The three bitches walked side by side and clogged up the aisles, and refused to yield.

Posted by: Spike at October 25, 2012 03:42 PM (I4NNt)

Posted by: Il Padrino at October 25, 2012 07:38 PM (O+/8o)

And we accuse Ace of not reading his own blog?

Posted by: sarcasto the magnificent at October 25, 2012 03:42 PM (zLp5I)

98 55 43 If, for some reason, we get through the election and by an act of God, Romney wins, I will not look forward to four years of Romney bashing by the media.
Posted by: shibumi at October 25, 2012 07:32 PM (z63Tr)

Get used to it. They will probably be pining for Bush. It. will. be. bad.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 25, 2012 07:37 PM (2Bc2e)

Don't matter. Back with Reagan, they used to gripe about him being the "Teflon President" because none of their crap stuck with the people.

And that was when most everyone had confidence in the press, unlike now.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 25, 2012 03:42 PM (z1N6a)

99 If you think that picture is hilarious, tune in on Election Day. If Barry goes down in flames, I expect Chris Matthews to pull a R. Budd Dwyer right there in the studio.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 25, 2012 03:42 PM (BuSM8)

100 O/T but now I'm trawling through imdb and there's a Breaking Dawn background, because, you know, there's a movie that needs more publicity, and by the insanity of cthulhu the things I would do to Taylor Lautner make even me blush.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 25, 2012 03:42 PM (Gk3SS)

101 We're close enough to 100 to go OT on this one, from Drudge center column. No disrespect to people who are honestly disabled, but can someone please splain to me how 8,803,335 people in this country are on disability? Roughly 2.6% of the population? Exit question: How can we expect to pay for this?

Posted by: jakeman at October 25, 2012 03:42 PM (96M6e)

102 "The game was played over four quarters."

And with varying degrees of referee suckitude.

So Romney/Ryan defeated at least two teams. It's like they curbstomped their opponents with both hands behind their backs.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 25, 2012 03:43 PM (eHIJJ)

103 "I was really surprised at the number of viewers the 3rd debate had."
************
Also, it was Fox News' highest rated show ever. People aren't just rejecting Obama, they're rejecting the Obama-loving MSM.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 25, 2012 03:43 PM (yGJj+)

104 The worst part about Girls is that Lena Dunham actually gets nekkid.
Posted by: Adam

It's why I drink so much.

Posted by: Lena Dunham's tattoo artist at October 25, 2012 03:43 PM (R18D0)

105 Dude, Mohr reached heights of political analysis in that podcast tantamount to my contemporaneous debate comments.

O/T: I saw my first Zero/Bluto lawn signs today in a neighborhood I travel through daily, and unlike the RR signs, these few all turned up on the same day. Early voting begins here on Saturday, so it must be some kind of "grassroots" Kamikaze attack.

Posted by: derit at October 25, 2012 03:43 PM (I88Jc)

106

She's the new Diablo Cody. She's the one who came up with Girls (which is boring boring boring and not at all shocking) and she just got a $3.5 million advance for a book deal.

I actually kind of liked Tiny Furniture though.

+++

Your strange alien references confuse and frighten me.

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 25, 2012 03:43 PM (0CiTm)

107 Do. Not. Take. This. Election. For. Granted.

Do. Not. Slack. Off.

GOTV!

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Oh, hey, thanks for reminding me. I'd planned to stay home on the 6th.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 03:43 PM (aHR5E)

108 If, for some reason, we get through the election and by an act of God, Romney wins, I will not look forward to four years of Romney bashing by the media. ------------------------------------- Yes, because only an "act of God" can defeat the failure that is Obama. You demonstrated not only "concern"............but a "fatalistic projection" to what is probably going to be a landslide Romney victory. Nice try, Putin.

Posted by: I'll Release My Credit Score To Help The Poor With Trump's $$$$ at October 25, 2012 03:44 PM (AzwZn)

109 19
Rasmussen is a Dem...so this has gotto hurt.

NO he is NOT. I know him. He is one of the horde.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 25, 2012 03:44 PM (wR+pz)

110 The Whitehouse has adopted a new t-shirt based campaign status system

http://tinyurl.com/c8wunjp

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 25, 2012 03:45 PM (dtmsl)

111 Young girls go crazy for that stupid show.I've gotten yelled at for criticizing it by my cousins 20-something girls.

Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2012 03:45 PM (6o4Fb)

112 OT, Drudge links to Bloomberg news interview with Fiat's head of Chinese operations, coincidentally also head of the Jeep brand, saying they are strongly considering moving all Jeep production to China.

I can think of three towns, anyway, where the ground should be getting all torn up by the "O" signs coming down, even in front of union stewards' houses. All three are in swing states. That's what you call a real October surprise.

Posted by: comatus at October 25, 2012 03:46 PM (qaVK+)

113 WTF.... Obama hedges his bets. Plays both sides in Syria.

http://tinyurl.com/8t6eshf

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 03:46 PM (piMMO)

114 She's the new Diablo Cody. She's the one who came up with Girls (which is boring boring boring and not at all shocking) and she just got a $3.5 million advance for a book deal.

I actually kind of liked Tiny Furniture though.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 25, 2012 07:39 PM (Gk3SS)

So she's going get one critically liked movie and then kill her career with a shitty horror movie starring Megan Fox?

Posted by: buzzion at October 25, 2012 03:46 PM (GULKT)

115 Democrats think whoever yells or belittles wins a debate... not true. Obama looked like a child... and Romney looked like the President. Obama was that guy who was trying way too hard to be a smart ass. it failed.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 25, 2012 03:47 PM (DGIjM)

116 Young girls go crazy for that stupid show.I've gotten yelled at for criticizing it by my cousins 20-something girls.

Make sure you point out to them all the white privilege and heteronormism and demand to know how they can support such vileness.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 25, 2012 03:47 PM (Gk3SS)

117 That Dunham chick looks like a dumpster.

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 25, 2012 03:47 PM (nTgAI)

118 @9

I will freely admit that I need to eat crow about many many many of the things I said about Romney during the primaries. All I ask is that I be allowed to wash down the crow with a nummy hateshake.
Posted by: alexthechick -

Alex, what's the recipe for that hateshake?

Posted by: greg at October 25, 2012 03:47 PM (uLTng)

119

by the insanity of cthulhu the things I would do to Taylor Lautner make even me blush.

By Grabthar's hammer, I have no idea who that is.

Posted by: fluffy at October 25, 2012 03:47 PM (O6q63)

120 Alex, what's the recipe for that hateshake?

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Haagen-Dazs, Valu-Rite vodka, and leftist tears.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 03:48 PM (aHR5E)

121 OT, Drudge links to Bloomberg news interview with Fiat's head of Chinese operations, coincidentally also head of the Jeep brand, saying they are strongly considering moving all Jeep production to China.

I ADORE my Jeep and despite the bailout, if I were to buy new again, it would be another Jeep.

But not if they more to China.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 03:48 PM (piMMO)

122 Vice President Biden, as he as become known to do, reportedly made a wildly inappropriate comment to the father who had just buried his hero son. Woods said Biden came over to his family and asked in a Â“loud and boisterousÂ” voice, Â“Did your son always have balls the size of cue balls?Â” Â“Are these the words of someone who is sorry?Â” said Woods.

Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 03:48 PM (Dnbau)

123
What's the name of this movie again?

/AoSHQ Style Manual version of "tl;dr"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 25, 2012 03:48 PM (TIIx5)

124 OT, Drudge links to Bloomberg news interview with Fiat's head of Chinese operations, coincidentally also head of the Jeep brand, saying they are strongly considering moving all Jeep production to China.

I can think of three towns, anyway, where the ground should be getting all torn up by the "O" signs coming down, even in front of union stewards' houses. All three are in swing states. That's what you call a real October surprise.

Posted by: comatus at October 25, 2012 07:46 PM (qaVK+)

Moving Jeep to china might actually improve the quality.

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 25, 2012 03:48 PM (nTgAI)

125 Alex, what's the recipe for that hateshake?

It's very very complicated.

Step One: Get in car.

Step Two: Go to CFA.

Step Three: Order hateshake.

You really need to plan ahead to have sufficient prep time. Also that it's not Sunday.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 25, 2012 03:48 PM (Gk3SS)

126 "...a silly Big Picture children's book called 'Obama's New Agenda for a 2nd Term.'"

Finally an opening to insert the metaphor for Obama pitching his new "plan" for America:

http://tinyurl.com/62czbq
[Monty Python - Theory on Brontosauruses by Anne Elk (Miss).]

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 25, 2012 03:49 PM (eHIJJ)

127 I don't think Romney was ever losing. The real-world situation was destined to sink the SCoaMF no matter what.

Posted by: toby928© at October 25, 2012 03:49 PM (QupBk)

128 by the insanity of cthulhu the things I would do to Taylor Lautner make even me blush. it my understanding he "bats for the other team"

Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 03:49 PM (Dnbau)

129 Sounds like some of you troopers need to buck up. #1 Nothing has changed since 2010.................the LAST time we doubted America would do the right thing. #2 Chick-fil-A Protest Day Thanks, tip your waitress.

Posted by: Scoop at October 25, 2012 03:50 PM (AzwZn)

130 Thanks for the link, kind proprietor, but I did not originate the image. Might have been slublog. Recollection of that heady night is a bit fuzzy nowadays.

It is a lovely image, though, no?

Can't wait to see it again IRL in twelve days.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at October 25, 2012 03:50 PM (XrGnJ)

131 I'm glad that the absurd spin over that fact will finally stop. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 25, 2012 03:50 PM (bxiXv)

132 I'm watching "Rock of Ages" on DVD with the Mrs. It's really stupid but the scene with Alec Baldwin and Russell Brand is hilarious. If you've seen the movie, you know what I'm talking about.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 03:51 PM (aHR5E)

133
Moving Jeep to china might actually improve the quality.

****

My 08 Jeep has been fantastic. Not one problem in 4 years.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 03:51 PM (piMMO)

134 Moving Jeep to china might actually improve the quality. Posted by: The Jackhole

This ^

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 25, 2012 03:51 PM (DKxu1)

135 On Twitter they're suggesting Romney should pay to run that inane ad everywhere until the election. LOL.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 25, 2012 03:52 PM (rPA5/)

136 Its not over yet I know, so I am not counting my chickens yet, but if Roms wins it I won't be turning MSNBC off for a week.

Oh the the wailing and gnashing of teeth, the lefty tears of despair; delicious.

Posted by: greg at October 25, 2012 03:52 PM (uLTng)

137 Also, the creepy sex with politicians ad should be re-titled: THE STATE AS FATHER, THE STATE AS HUSBAND. Creepy really doesn't begin to cover it, it does belong alongside the schoolkids in paramilitary uniforms belting out praise for Dear leader 2.0.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 25, 2012 03:52 PM (bxiXv)

138

I think it's more an antipathy toward celebrating too early.

Who knows what those traitorous bastards have planned.

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 25, 2012 03:52 PM (0CiTm)

139 I wasn't sure about Romney at first, either. I confess to a pre-existing bias against Mormons based on some personal experiences, plus I figured a Massachusetts Republican would be an awful squish. What has changed my mind is finding out more about the man's life and character, and seeing him in the debates and videos. He's a good guy, and he understands America. That's good enough for me. As a bonus, his name isn't "Barack Obama" which is important to me as a voter. As to debates: it's possible to lose all the debates and still win the election. It's good that Romney's exposure in the debates helped swing opinion in his favor, but "who won the debate" is an almost useless question. Almost, but not entirely: people will retrofit their impressions of the debate to fit their opinions of the candidates. If they're starting to like Mitt, they'll say he won.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 25, 2012 03:52 PM (deAVu)

140 I tried to watch an episode of Girls. I wanted to slap every single one of the "girls". I did love reading that Brian Williams (he of NBC news) said it did not freak him out in the least seeing his daughter nekkid on television. Oh, no he just loves it.

Posted by: Ktgreat at October 25, 2012 03:53 PM (avGs3)

141 the state wants to make you their sister wife

Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 03:53 PM (Dnbau)

142 WWI vet casts absentee ballot from death bed. State of Hawaii says it won't count because he will be dead on November 6th.

really?

They gonna do deathbed searches on ALL absentee ballots?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 03:53 PM (piMMO)

143 I did love reading that Brian Williams (he of NBC news) said it did not freak him out in the least seeing his daughter nekkid on television. Oh, no he just loves it.

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Interpret that as you wish.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 03:54 PM (aHR5E)

144 I will freely admit that I need to eat crow about many many many of the things I said about Romney during the primaries. All I ask is that I be allowed to wash down the crow with a nummy hateshake. Posted by: alexthechick - I will also admit my crush on Rick Perry clouded my decisions on Romney. I apologize. I still love me some Rick Perry but I thank God Romney was the victor.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 25, 2012 03:54 PM (DGIjM)

145 By Grabthar's hammer, I have no idea who that is.

Posted by: fluffy at October 25, 2012 07:47 PM (O6q63)

Taylor Lautner.

http://bit.ly/TEurLA

The werewolf in Twilight.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 25, 2012 03:54 PM (Gk3SS)

146 Holy crap I have been posting as Greg

OUT DAMN SOCK

Posted by: kinlaw at October 25, 2012 03:54 PM (uLTng)

147 sadly, the previous comment was the most sense reg has ever made

Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 03:55 PM (Dnbau)

148 You guys are making me laugh in my hotel room

Posted by: grandmalcaesar at October 25, 2012 03:55 PM (CWdsC)

149 Moving Jeep to china might actually improve the quality.

****

My 08 Jeep has been fantastic. Not one problem in 4 years.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 07:51 PM (piMMO)

I have a CJ 7... with 5.0 ltr Ford motor and ford transmission. After spending about $10k replacing everything Jeep on it except the body on it, it is pretty good.

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 25, 2012 03:55 PM (nTgAI)

150 WWI vet casts absentee ballot from death bed. State of Hawaii says it won't count because he will be dead on November 6th.

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Huh. He must've voted Republican after all. Dead voters only count if they're Democrats.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 03:55 PM (aHR5E)

151 why is twilight even mentioned on this blog?

are we not MEN?

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 25, 2012 03:55 PM (8sCoq)

152 Lautner?

That kid?

No way.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 03:55 PM (piMMO)

153 49% thought he won the debates. This does not translate into votes, or did you all forget about how the president "stylistically" won the second and third debates but lost on the issues?

Posted by: Greg at October 25, 2012 03:55 PM (fXInK)

154 It's nice that,unlike the left,we can admit when we are wrong about someone.

Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2012 03:55 PM (6o4Fb)

155 The real Greg shows up.

Thunderb, I think you were talking about one of my posts, I was socking Greg

Posted by: kinlaw at October 25, 2012 03:56 PM (uLTng)

156 Do. Not. Take. This. Election. For. Granted.

Do. Not. Slack. Off.

GOTV!

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Oh, hey, thanks for reminding me. I'd planned to stay home on the 6th.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 07:43 PM (aHR5E)

I thought that last was a mobile phone spell check error for "GOLF" and just set up a tee time.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 25, 2012 03:56 PM (z1N6a)

157 No, that's not the real gerg's hash either

more greg socks

Posted by: kinlaw at October 25, 2012 03:57 PM (uLTng)

158 I will also admit my crush on Rick Perry clouded my decisions on Romney. I apologize.
I still love me some Rick Perry but I thank God Romney was the victor.

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Perry could never have managed Obama and the debates the way Romney has.

Romney is one helluva leader.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 03:57 PM (piMMO)

159 why is twilight even mentioned on this blog?

are we not MEN?

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 25, 2012 07:55 PM (8sCoq)

No. sparkley vampires, mostly.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 25, 2012 03:57 PM (z1N6a)

160 No way I'm voting if it's windy that day.

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 25, 2012 03:58 PM (0CiTm)

161 Greg Sock is a name of honor. I would love to be filled to the bursting point with love for the president as Greg True.

Posted by: Greg at October 25, 2012 03:58 PM (fXInK)

162 They gonna do deathbed searches on ALL absentee ballots?

They'd have to search a lotta graveyards...a bunch of those absentee's will have been planted for a number of years now.

There's Dems voting absentee that were CIVIL WAR vets.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 25, 2012 03:58 PM (dtmsl)

163 Romney has been a hell of a lot cooler that I thought he was going to be

I figured he would win on the facts, especially as regards the economy, but I think he ran a number on Obama, totally worked him

Posted by: kinlaw at October 25, 2012 03:58 PM (uLTng)

164 Perry would have probably had to be pulled off of Obumbles. Mitt should make him energy sec

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 25, 2012 03:59 PM (nTgAI)

165 There's Dems voting absentee that were CIVIL WAR vets.

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Betcha they didn't fight for the north.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 03:59 PM (aHR5E)

166 158 It's nice that,unlike the left,we can admit when we are wrong about someone.

Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2012 07:55 PM (6o4Fb)

I'm not sure we were "wrong", except in the sense that we're all surprised that Mitt isn't McCain II.

Posted by: jwb7605 at October 25, 2012 03:59 PM (Qxe/p)

167 Um, anybody see that first pitch?

Posted by: comatus at October 25, 2012 04:00 PM (qaVK+)

168 From a (stupid) politically-themed Geico ad: "The Gecko is demanding FREE PUDDING".

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 25, 2012 04:01 PM (0CiTm)

169 I suspect that the 'real' Greg is going to disappear forever from AoS about 9:57 EST on November 7, 2012 -- tail between its legs, his dogeared copy of Das Kapital by his side.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 25, 2012 04:01 PM (feFL6)

170 @146

It should not count. Dumb fucks should have STFU and it would have.

Dead people ONLY vote in Chicago. We all know that.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 25, 2012 04:01 PM (wR+pz)

171 Hell. The way the media "hid" Romney's true self for a solid year it's no wonder he got such a bump by just being himself for 1 1/2 hrs. with no filter.

Posted by: Old Glazier at October 25, 2012 04:04 PM (YGHl3)

172 Rick Wilson @TheRickWilson Just tasked to a quite liberal reporter friend who confesses to no longer feeling like Chicago is on the level

Posted by: Evilpens at October 25, 2012 04:04 PM (ck76k)

173 I suspect that the 'real' Greg is going to disappear forever from AoS about 9:57 EST on November 7, 2012 -- tail between its legs, his dogeared copy of Das Kapital by his side.

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I don't. It'll hide out for two or three days then show up denying that it ever said Romney was going to lose, just like it did with the Walker recall.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 04:04 PM (aHR5E)

174 155 why is twilight even mentioned on this blog?

are we not MEN?

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 25, 2012 07:55 PM (8sCoq)

If you ever have a good 90 minutes to kill I cannot more highly recommend Spoony's video review of Breaking Dawn Part 1. It is so worth it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti1vJCjiJEc

"It's not a saga! Its about a horny chick that wants to fuck a vampire!"

Posted by: buzzion at October 25, 2012 04:05 PM (GULKT)

175 Again: the reason the first debate was so significant was not about "Winning" or how great Romney did but how starkly different he was from the caricature the Obama reelection team put out.
Or, as the hags at the View put it:
Before these debates, the general impression of Romney was that he wasn't too smart, and that he was very stiff, and that if he happened to be elected president, it would be a disaster. Now, you know, I don't give my opinions here. What you have after these three debates is that people feel, whether they want to vote for him or not, that this is a qualified man, this is an intelligent man, and this is a man who we now don't describe as stiff and totally out of touch. What is the most important thing for Romney is that he's a different person seen by the public now than he was before the three debates.
People - especially women - got to see him and he was an affable Clark Kent type, a sort of likable professional, who was capable, serious, well spoken, and on the job.
The fact that President Obama was so totally unprepared and coming down from a coke binge just made the contrast stronger.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 25, 2012 04:06 PM (r4wIV)

176 http://tinyurl.com/98p7trc Wisconsin GOP campaign worker hospitalized after apparent gay-bashing assault But. But.. But.. Libs are all for Gay rights RIGHT???

Posted by: Evilpens at October 25, 2012 04:09 PM (ck76k)

177

The reason the debates mattered this time is because usually the most articulate candidate with the most to say is perceived to be the best candidate who is winning the campaign. This then carries over into the debates where they win there as well and, thus, the debates don't really matter, they just reaffirmed everyone's perception on the race.

But this time the person who had been perceived to be the best candidate with the most to say wasn't even close to being that because of how badly the media was spinning for Obama. So when the debates occurred, it finally brought the perception back in line with reality, and people realized that the better candidate was Romney. That's why the debates mattered this time, they broke through everyone's incorrect perceptions of Obama and of Romney.

Posted by: Uncle Milty at October 25, 2012 04:12 PM (8J5Ck)

178 How did I miss that shot of Maddow and Matthews up until now? That's perfect.

Posted by: Dave S. at October 25, 2012 04:17 PM (UvR6d)

179 Jackhole, this isn't about Jeeps, it's about the votes of UAW members.
Nobody will ever accuse this of being a smart automotive blog.

Obviously you're pretty new to Jeeps, or you'd have a Studebaker in there. It's the only transplant engine for a CJ. I sure hope you didn't pull a Rambler motor out of that.

Posted by: comatus at October 25, 2012 04:17 PM (qaVK+)

180 "Obama's negative campaign actually changed the structure of the race so that it wasn't a Referendum on Obama, but in fact a Referendum on Romney-- and Romney was losing that Referendum until Oct. 3rd." - Ace Probably the best political analysis I've seen on here, which is not damning w/ faint praise, because most of it has been pretty good.

Posted by: trickamsterdam at October 25, 2012 04:18 PM (uTBHY)

181 Someone should tell that younger guy on the left to let his beard grow - he'd look more like a man and less like a dyke.

Posted by: east of nowhere at October 25, 2012 04:18 PM (fqhBG)

182

@173

He seems to have been trying very hard to keep getting himself banned from this site, to give him an excuse for not fronting up on election night.

Posted by: AussieMarcus at October 25, 2012 04:20 PM (dJDiO)

183

"Obama's negative campaign actually changed the structure of the race so that it wasn't a Referendum on Obama, but in fact a Referendum on Romney-- and Romney was losing that Referendum until Oct. 3rd.

Maybe it just remained a Referendum on Romney, but instead of losing he started winning. This is giving me a headache.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 25, 2012 04:24 PM (R4cjW)

184 I agree with 97--this race did not go back and forth. From the moment Obamacare came on the radar, all the indications were that the electorate was against Obama. Nothing really changed.

Posted by: artemis at October 25, 2012 04:29 PM (2XMD1)

185 If I'm honest, I was thinking Romney was busy trying to lose, like everyone else was thinking til the 3rd, the day before my birthday. On the 4th, my birthday gift was seeing how Romney had played Barky into a corner.

My thinking lately has been that Mittens knew Barky was going to go negative all the way, so Mittens decided to conduct his campaign in such a way as to appeal to those who already were inclined towards him, and wait for the debates.

He had to know the obvious slant of the media. He had to know about the negative ads, and he hd to know he'd bankrupt his resources running useless countring ads in the swing states. So he waited, gritted his teeth, picked a very competent running mate and waited for those debates.

When the debates came along, he had one chance: knock Barky down and rough him up, in public an before an unedited, unfiltered audience. And that is what he did. The man started and ran a financial powerhouse, ran a state under less than ideal conditions and saved an Olympics, for Heaven's sake...he knows about strategy, timing and how to win. He won't cheat but out- thinking and out-maneuvering someone is fair game.

Southside Chocolate Messiah is getting his dirty tricks clock cleaned by Donny Osmond due to one, just one public appearance, which cost a fraction of what even one counter negative ad buy would have cost.

Romney beat Chi-town Hayzoos at political gamesmanship, and will most likely win going away. He let it become a Mitt referendum and then won that and made it into the Barky referendum he wanted all along.

There were stumbles and I was for more blood-letting along the way, but dead is dead politically speaking, and Hayzoos without his teleprompter and trappings is just a thin, over-rated race-baiting demagogue.

And Mittens has proved it with just skilled counter-punching.

Well played Mister Clean Politician Guy, well played.

Posted by: sandman will resist at October 25, 2012 04:46 PM (zxaA2)

186 Just you wait Wingnutz President Obama (The BLACK president in your WHITE House) is about to come out swinging and wow America once more with his Progressive American Plan in the form of a fold out brochure! Then we'll see who's sad oh yes we will!

Posted by: Gergles! Jon! Toldyaso! at October 25, 2012 04:48 PM (dvRYt)

187 Madow looks like his penis just fell off.

Posted by: ohio at October 25, 2012 05:06 PM (hj5N/)

188 P.S. I love this photo of Madcow and Chrissie.Y'all should put it in the blog sidebar until after the election. It makes me smile.

I would like for everyone to wear RED on Tuesday November 6th. You can't wear anything political, but this is like the secret moron hand signal at the FEMA camps. A sea of red voting. Red for conservative states in the USA. Tired of being part of a red fiscal cliff. Seeing RED in anger at the current administration.

How can we get this to go viral---for conservatives to wear Red on election day? Are y'all with me?

I will be the aging supermodel in the red sweater crawling over broken glass to vote Romney/Ryan here in Floriduh. I could vote early but want to wait until the day.

P.S. Have you seen the Clint Eastwood ad yet? My husband swears that is me in line behind the guy at .04 seconds. It is said that everyone has a doppelganger. I think I found mine in this ad. He says she has "that" look I have when I am in airports checking for terrorists (we travel a lot and I am always on alert to swing my purse and get a reward from the FBI for that one guy who is worth five million). I have asked him to send the ad to his liberal family to flip them out that I am now hanging out with Clint Eastwood in Romney ads. They are so stupid they will believe it...and they also know, in addition to my being a red Republican conservative that I am a redneck, so it would not surprise them that I somehow did this.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 25, 2012 05:07 PM (baL2B)

189

I have been watching Romney closely. He is a skillful tactician who has dominated Obama; lived in Obama's head rent free. Kept his powder dry while Obama annoyed everyone with his stupid ads and his fawning press; both with approval ratings in the 40's. Romney's taking this in a walk. He has been showing us that is Obama an empty suit; always was and always will be.

John McCain was beaten by a mirage.

Posted by: David Santacroce at October 25, 2012 05:24 PM (HEh+B)

190 Romney has outplayed Obama in these debates at a level that Obama could not even comprehend.what was being done to him.

The final debate was the closer for Romney. He left Obama scratching and scraping to win a debate while he serenely proceeded to winning votes. It is as if he had planned the series of debates to set his opponent up to focus on the wrong thing each time.

After mixing it up in #2 Romney sat back and waited for Obama to bring a pile of rehearsed attacks then sat there with a "golly, you sure say the strangest things sometimes" grin on his face and watched the guy talk himself out of a job.

If you're debating to see who should be in charge of the military and your opponent is making snarky comments illustrated with zoomy hand motions about airplanes and submarines, you win.

Posted by: Ronsonic at October 25, 2012 06:01 PM (k0Zim)

191 "The final debate was the closer for Romney. He left Obama scratching and scraping to win a debate while he serenely proceeded to winning votes. It is as if he had planned the series of debates to set his opponent up to focus on the wrong thing each time"

Ronsonic, I think you just defined "Reaganesque."

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 25, 2012 06:06 PM (baL2B)

192 "I'm glad that the absurd spin over that fact will finally stop." You're kidding, right? You think the Left is gonna stop lying and spinning because of a Rasmussen poll?

Posted by: FloridaRepublican at October 25, 2012 08:19 PM (QTVh2)

193 The Obama campaign strategy - from last year before they even had an official office & staff - was to "kill Romney" with negative ads.

Some top campaign staff have been floating the story that Clinton advised them to drop the "waffler, flip-flopper" angle and tie Romney to his own declared "severe conservative" positions from the primary. Of course, Obama, having already beaten the vaunted Clinton Machine in 2008, would not have been swayed if unconvinced.

But that is irrelevant. The problem always was the same: they were going to go all-in over-the-top from the start, using exaggerations and outright lies, no matter which tack they took. And Romney was always going to get his chance at unfiltered time in the debates.

So the old adage applies: "If you set out to kill the King, kill the King." Because any rational observer could see that Romney is so much better qualified to be a leader, he had to be crushed to the point Obama could safely avoid debates.

Posted by: Adjoran at October 25, 2012 08:57 PM (ZHQvg)

194 The polls right after the final debate had Obama the winner...but after it was fact checked a bit and he was found to have been lying (or terrible misinformed) on every single talking point that had appealed to people, now it swings Romney HARD. Those numbers won't swing back. Obama won the News Cycle but lost the election by being a dishonest jerk.

RE: Jeep/China. I'm in Toledo-Home of Jeep. When I and others posted that story... instantly we were bashed by some Union bozo's who were convinced WE had made it up. I point out to them that if Crysler would have gone through a normal bancruptcy instead of a forced sale to Fiat. Jeep would likely be a stand alone Brand, Headquartered right here and that the Union could have been MAJOR stockholders. They could OWN their own future...too late.

Posted by: jeff talbut at October 25, 2012 09:32 PM (V5auc)

195 Without reading any of the other comments, I just had to say...

That image gives me a boner, the schadenfreude is so strong. HAHAhahahhahaha

Posted by: TehSchlippy at October 25, 2012 11:48 PM (f77Zg)

196 Madcow looks like someone just shoved a p*nis in her face.

Posted by: sherlockzz at October 26, 2012 05:44 AM (QE6g/)

197 I've seen that show Girls and it's disgusting.

Posted by: the other coyote at October 26, 2012 11:28 AM (yK44T)

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