September 16, 2012

Rasmussen Swing-State Poll: Romney 47, Obama 45
— Ace

This contradicts most other polls, but I think it means something. Maybe Rasmussen is +2 points or so too friendly to Republicans, but even so, rumors of the demise of Romney/Ryan have been greatly exaggerated.

Posted by: Ace at 11:19 AM | Comments (790)
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1 The SCOAMF's chickens have been coming home to roost this past week.

Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at September 16, 2012 11:20 AM (1iauC)

2 And FIRST!

Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at September 16, 2012 11:20 AM (1iauC)

3 Scott Walker!

Posted by: Tardyaso at September 16, 2012 11:20 AM (/YJYi)

4 Just can't see Democrat turnout matching -any- of the recent elections.

Even 2010 had 'opposition to the hated teabaggers' as a meme.

Posted by: Al at September 16, 2012 11:21 AM (MzQOZ)

5 Apparently, there's no one on the site today

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 11:21 AM (GEICT)

6 Rasmussen should be careful....it would be a shame if the DoJ decided to 'investigate' them too.

Posted by: Barqy at September 16, 2012 11:23 AM (Z7b/q)

7 Pretty arrogant and disrespectful of Ras to publish a poll with Romney leading Obama don'tyathink?

Posted by: Chrissy McHack-N-Drunk at September 16, 2012 11:25 AM (Yp7MD)

8 No elbows in this thread. Shameful.

Posted by: Stripper Poll Graphics For Peace at September 16, 2012 11:25 AM (mxnUd)

9 Average Joe wept, and sucked cock.

Posted by: toby928© at September 16, 2012 11:25 AM (QupBk)

10 MAMA MAMA TEH POLLS TEH POLLS

http://is.gd/aNbsDH

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 11:25 AM (YdQQY)

11 Apparently, there's no one on the site today My father said I was "no one" once too. To this day he still wears orthopedic shirts.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 16, 2012 11:26 AM (hjZrn)

12 Suck it, Greg

Posted by: Suck it, Greg at September 16, 2012 11:26 AM (d/5qf)

13 toldyaso hardest it.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 16, 2012 11:26 AM (d/5qf)

14 Right on, Ace. You're thinking more clearly since your personal challenge started!

Posted by: Travis at September 16, 2012 11:27 AM (9WkMB)

15 Ot: Dan Dierdorf is a douche. Vick was down when his right elbow hit. Good spot by the official. He's been bashing the replacements the whole game. They have missed one blatant call, but doing a good job overall.

Posted by: Sponge at September 16, 2012 11:27 AM (nDcVA)

16 So when does Obama order the DOJ to investigate ????????????????

Posted by: Debbie WasserWaterBuffalo Schitz at September 16, 2012 11:27 AM (lJ3rV)

17

Romney needs to come out swinging again right now, dammit.  If he himself and Ryan are going to hang back (inexplicably), at least they should be sending out surrogates like there's no tomorrow.  Because in a sense there is no tomorrow.

 

And yes, we can start impugning the SCOAMF's character now.  Do it, Romney/Ryan:  you are good, and the SCOAMF is a sociopath, and that's that -- say it with examples out the wazoo.

Posted by: RamonAllones at September 16, 2012 11:28 AM (3lLli)

18 Down to Obama by 3 in the Gallup poll of registered voters after being as high as 7 earlier in the week. That's just registered voters. This one's a long way from over to say the least.

Posted by: packsoldier at September 16, 2012 11:28 AM (BPzLf)

19 ACTUALLY RASMUSSEN OVERSAMPLES DEMOCRATS. Want proof? In todays Presidential poll he had ROMNEY Up +1 but Up 10 with Independents. So if Rasmussen is using a Republican leaning sample how does ROMNEY lead with Independents by 10 and overall by 1? Right. Rasmussen is assuming a 2008 turnout model like everyone else.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at September 16, 2012 11:29 AM (hlUJY)

20 Will this poll result in someone being offended? Will it cause riots?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 11:29 AM (GEICT)

21 And Obama is a stuttering success of a miserable clusterfuck.

Posted by: Sponge at September 16, 2012 11:29 AM (nDcVA)

22

Obama's lesson here is that you can stink like shit just so long before people start to notice...

...Even if an fat alcoholic like Chrissy Matthews always says that you smell like cologne....

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at September 16, 2012 11:29 AM (6/bOE)

23 Ace on a Sunday!  Wow.  Of course, it election season.

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 11:30 AM (NmfLU)

24 The polls say I'm losing?

Isn't there another amateur filmmaker I can arrest or something?

Posted by: Barry O. at September 16, 2012 11:30 AM (d/5qf)

25 If Gallup goes to a likely voter screen Romney goes up by 2 overnight. We are winning people. Obama has peaked.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at September 16, 2012 11:30 AM (hlUJY)

26 Romney and Ryan just need more exposure. I swear, it seems the press is limiting the face time Mitt gets to have with the casual voter. I don't think a lot of voters have a sense of the guy.

Posted by: Serious Cat at September 16, 2012 11:30 AM (zrpqj)

27 But Intrade has Obama up by 20%!!!!!!

Posted by: In before the troll at September 16, 2012 11:30 AM (ZdHrP)

28

All polls that do not reflect my greatness, shall be deemed blasphemous.

Posted by: Barqy Al Clusterfuq at September 16, 2012 11:30 AM (Z7b/q)

29 Heh.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 16, 2012 11:31 AM (a4CUi)

30 I'm in Ohio so this is Sven mobile. Deciding on shotgun model. Durka durka.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 16, 2012 11:31 AM (E2SBl)

31 In Nevada CD 2, Rep. Heck polled 13 points ahead of the Dem Assembly speaker. Now the Dems start whining about polls over/undersampling! Of course, considering that the Dems are registering "people" like crazy, those Dems might have a point come November...

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 16, 2012 11:31 AM (sZTYJ)

32 I have a preference cascade... in my PANTS.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 16, 2012 11:31 AM (6JMZR)

33 Posted by: Barqy Al Clusterfuq at September 16, 2012 03:30 PM (Z7b/q) Damn you!!!! I just spewed a perfectly good mouthful of Woodford Reserve all over the bar.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 16, 2012 11:32 AM (hjZrn)

34 Two things.

1. As much as the left bitches about Rasmussen, its national polls were pretty much on the money in 2008 and 2004 (I'd have to go back and check the state by state polls).

2. Swing state polls, besides Rasmussen, seem to have been tightening lately (and it's not as though convention bounces in '04 and '08 disappeared in a week anyway).

Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 11:32 AM (/D7/G)

35 Do not confuse "independent" with "neutral".  Independents vote for one party or the other all time. There are actually very few "neutrals" that bounce back and forth.


But Ras has been strange this year.  And as I have been saying for a long time, none of these polls are worth a shit in a hog wallow right now.

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 11:32 AM (YdQQY)

36 8 No elbows in this thread. Shameful. Posted by: Stripper Poll Graphics For Peace at September 16, 2012 03:25 PM (mxnUd) Can't have that. http://tinyurl.com/9yd47le

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 11:33 AM (GEICT)

37 But Intrade has Obama up by 20%!!!!!!

Posted by: In before the troll at September 16, 2012 03:30 PM (ZdHrP)


I really wish I could bet on Intrade.  This f'king sucks.

Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 11:33 AM (/D7/G)

38 Why wasn't Romney crying about this two weeks ago?!??!?

Posted by: Reallliiittttyyyy Checcckkk?!?!? at September 16, 2012 11:33 AM (/YJYi)

39 Doug Ross has a telling graph showing just how much the various polls are Dem skewed (Ras has a slight R bias and is a huge outlier on the chart):
 
http://preview.tinyurl.com/9gwv6de
 
It's almost like there was a coordinated plan to skew the polls or something.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 16, 2012 11:34 AM (ccXZP)

40 I have a preference cascade... in my PANTS. Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 16, 2012 03:31 PM (6JMZR) Now that is the type of politics I'm talking about!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke, Polling Expert at September 16, 2012 11:34 AM (sZTYJ)

41 Landslide

Posted by: runninrebel at September 16, 2012 11:34 AM (WFZEf)

42

You have the right to remain silent. Unless you praise me.

Posted by: Barqy Al Clusterfuq at September 16, 2012 11:34 AM (Z7b/q)

43 That's not a poll.

Posted by: John Roberts at September 16, 2012 11:35 AM (6JMZR)

44 Sven: I recommend the Rem. 1187 if you are shopping for semi-auto 12gs.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 11:35 AM (0aV2C)

45 But...but...but... CHICKEN SAMMICH OF HATE!!!!!!

Posted by: Typical Libtard Douche at September 16, 2012 11:36 AM (d/5qf)

46 But...but...but... WAR ON WOMEN!!!!!

Posted by: Typical Libtard Douche at September 16, 2012 11:36 AM (d/5qf)

47 But...but...but... ROMNEY'S DOG!!!!

Posted by: Typical Libtard Douche at September 16, 2012 11:36 AM (d/5qf)

48 This is maddening! Romney needs to go Viking on Obama. My children's future depends on it! Release the Ryan!

Posted by: Jmel at September 16, 2012 11:36 AM (c+D8V)

49 42 runningrebel that's what i'm hoping for......i so want to gloat.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 16, 2012 11:36 AM (Ho2rs)

50 Happy new year to all Jewish morons, and to the non-Jewish morons who support Israel and the Jewish community here in the U.S. May you all have a sweet, happy, healthy, prosperous, and safe new year. And a hearty fuck you to the Obama administration and the lickspittle media who refuse to do their jobs. That is all.

Posted by: Throat Wobbler Mangrove at September 16, 2012 11:36 AM (l57Cl)

51 But...but...but... TAX RETURNS!!! FELON!!!

Posted by: Typical Libtard Douche at September 16, 2012 11:37 AM (d/5qf)

52 How many Clinton disasters must America endure before the Democrats come up for air and wipe the smug from their chins?

Posted by: Fritz at September 16, 2012 11:37 AM (uRFJj)

53 No one not yet declaring for Obama will vote for him.  ---No. one.


they will either sit this one out or vote for R & R.  That's just the way it is...


Anyone who thought Romney was 'panicking'  or other such sh*t last week is a flat-headed, worm-eating pussy

Posted by: DOA in Scrambletown, FLA at September 16, 2012 11:37 AM (Dll6b)

54 You're thinking more clearly since your personal challenge started!
But can Ace now speak Portuguese?

Posted by: andycanuck at September 16, 2012 11:38 AM (vDl/w)

55 Say....where's the bedwetter brigade?

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 16, 2012 11:38 AM (a4CUi)

56 flat-headed, worm-eating pussy

I hate it when I get those... oh wait, I thought you said "pussy-eating worm"

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 16, 2012 11:38 AM (d/5qf)

57

It's almost like there was a coordinated plan to skew the polls or something.

 

You don't say?

 

/

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 11:38 AM (NmfLU)

58 56 Say....where's the bedwetter brigade?

They are busy promoting Obama's new Anti-Blasphemy initiative.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 11:40 AM (0aV2C)

59 I don't know who I'm voting for yet, but one thing is for sure. Scott Rasmunnazi is engaging in reich wing pollpaganda as his final polling solution.

Posted by: Undecided Voter at September 16, 2012 11:40 AM (6JMZR)

60 Scott Rasmussen may lean to the right, but he wants to be accurate.   I don't think the others want to be   accurate anymore.   I think they just want to make   Obama happy.  Or else they are afraid  of the pornstache guy.

Posted by: Mo the girl at September 16, 2012 11:41 AM (CyMFf)

61 Can't have that. http://tinyurl.com/9yd47le Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 03:33 PM (GEICT) ---------------------------------------------------- You know why she's smiling don't you?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 16, 2012 11:41 AM (jucos)

62 The media is the only thing still keeping Obama in the race. Ignoring the record high gas prices saves Barack 2-3% points in polling alone.

Posted by: Serious Cat at September 16, 2012 11:41 AM (zrpqj)

63 B-b-but ROMNEY'S TAX RETURNS!

Posted by: Another Typical Libtard Douche at September 16, 2012 11:41 AM (rmdRH)

64 Doesn't matter Romney loses by 20, a daily kos writer told me so!

Posted by: Gerg at September 16, 2012 11:42 AM (/YJYi)

65

I have decreed that this election will be close. My lawyers are standing by to contest it.

Posted by: Barqy Al Clusterfuq at September 16, 2012 11:42 AM (Z7b/q)

66 I think they just want to make Obama happy.

No. They want to get him re-elected because he has the correct letter after his name. It's not emotional, it's evil.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 16, 2012 11:42 AM (6JMZR)

67 The pollsters aren't able to pick up on what's happening. They have their conventions that make that impossible. Even if they see it, and maybe some of them do, it's way too big of a risk to break conventions. This election will be decided by a massive influx of new voters, a huge swing in Independents, centrist Dem switchers, and the depressed 2008 Dem base.

Posted by: runninrebel at September 16, 2012 11:42 AM (n9F1h)

68 greatly exaggerated, ya think? MSM wishcasting his losing while he leads

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 16, 2012 11:43 AM (WrIV3)

69 62 Can't have that. http://tinyurl.com/9yd47le Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 03:33 PM (GEICT) ---------------------------------------------------- You know why she's smiling don't you? Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 16, 2012 03:41 PM (jucos) *dont do it, don't do it, don't do it* Dammit. /sigh Why?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 11:44 AM (GEICT)

70 Ace can now play the piano.  And he couldn't before.

Posted by: Jack at September 16, 2012 11:44 AM (wUFaM)

71 45 Kristopher, That's actually what I'm hung up on deciding on 3 1\2 or 3 in chamber. The semi auto's are gonna need about $300 modifications for my purposes.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 16, 2012 11:44 AM (E2SBl)

72 MFM: But, but, but  the rioting, attacking US embassies and killing Americans makes Romney look bad because he's....errr....racists!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 16, 2012 11:44 AM (QrFdm)

73 even so, rumors of the demise of Romney/Ryan have been greatly exaggerated. . . . by you, Ace. it's one thing for NBC et alia to tout chicken little krep, but another for our side to do it! Whither the Happy Warrior? Hmm . . . actually, Ryan and Romney ARE exactly that. Shame no one hardly EVER gets to see them (thanks MSM!). Have to hope the grassroots still mean something in this day and age.

Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at September 16, 2012 11:44 AM (J6kXj)

74

Hey Girl. 

Do you Swing State?

Posted by: Paul Ryan at September 16, 2012 11:45 AM (ADYN4)

75 This site makes me randy.

Posted by: Randy at September 16, 2012 11:45 AM (EuW9O)

76 You can get an 1187 in 3.5". Just sayin.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 11:46 AM (0aV2C)

77

I saw a comment on a board by some moonbat saying that Romney won't release some of his tax returns for fear of being put in shackles.

 

Yes people, they are THAT stupid.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 16, 2012 11:46 AM (pdk6E)

78 I can't ignore the polls completely this year. I tried that one in 2008. "But McCain voters don't have landlines! McCain voters aren't home because they're working! McCain voters don't want to admit who they're voting for because he's white! McCain voters are more likely to hang up!"

The numbers are clear enough... most of the 52% are still politically ignorant dummies, and the rest peeled away from the Dems screaming.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 16, 2012 11:46 AM (6JMZR)

79 Allahpundit hardest hit

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 16, 2012 11:46 AM (a4CUi)

80 Wait, Obama my Lord and Savior is losing?

LAUNCH THE SQUIRRELS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3Ya6z-NlDo

Posted by: David Axelpooper at September 16, 2012 11:46 AM (d/5qf)

81

34Posted by: Barqy Al Clusterfuq at September 16, 2012 03:30 PM (Z7b/q)

 

Damn you!!!! I just spewed a perfectly good mouthful of Woodford Reserve all over the bar.

 

Uh oh. ...Sorry, Sean!

Posted by: wheatie, missing mpfs & dagny at September 16, 2012 11:46 AM (Z7b/q)

82 You're thinking more clearly since your personal challenge started! -- Yep. Good job, ace! That said, when you DO finally... umm... slip up, I will be eager to see how the graphic on the sidebar is changed.

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 11:47 AM (5H6zj)

83 Speaking of Tax Returns, all you Morons who file quarterly like me remember that 3rd quarter is due tomorrow. 

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 11:47 AM (YdQQY)

84 wheaton,, mpfs is back. Dagny not so much.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 16, 2012 11:48 AM (hjZrn)

85 The State Dept. isn't taking any more ?s on the Libya assault because the FBI is investigating.......... while a separate article says that the FBI can't go to Libya because the the place is currently unsafe.
 
And the circle closes.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 16, 2012 11:48 AM (ccXZP)

86 One hand you have a dead Ambassador that in times gone by that would be a act of war not a criminal act and lies all over about it vs. apathy and the HoneyB's voters.

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at September 16, 2012 11:48 AM (3qeX5)

87 Damn you auto correct!! Damn you Arizona Cardinals!!!!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 16, 2012 11:49 AM (hjZrn)

88 I can't ignore the polls completely this year. I tried that one in 2008. "But McCain voters don't have landlines! McCain voters aren't home because they're working! McCain voters don't want to admit who they're voting for because he's white! McCain voters are more likely to hang up!"


Keep in mind that even if the poll you are looking at accurately measures the true feelings of the people that are sampled, they can not still measure turnout.


McCain was doomed on turnout in key States like VA and NC.

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 11:49 AM (YdQQY)

89 Sven, Remington 870-5077 is the riot model.

Posted by: @SCOAMT at September 16, 2012 11:49 AM (YlmX/)

90 Vic ~ When I write those checks, it takes a great deal of willpower to not allow the blood pressure to spike.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 16, 2012 11:49 AM (a4CUi)

91 32 In Nevada CD 2, Rep. Heck polled 13 points ahead of the Dem Assembly speaker. Please tell me he's using "Aw Heck, just vote for him!" as his campaign slogan.

Posted by: rfichoke at September 16, 2012 11:49 AM (l6GOr)

92 I host a roundtable discussion twice a week in my community. We have had great turn out from Blacks and Hispanics. The discussions have covered Medicare unsustainability, the National Debt and the Supreme Court decision.  These are mostly people that have some visibility in the community but are also low information voters.  Can you great people at AoS give me  a simple way to inform these people about the weakened dollar. Thank you.

Posted by: Lilly Lurksalot at September 16, 2012 11:49 AM (z/UGx)

93 Nice rant Swanny!

Posted by: small town girl at September 16, 2012 11:50 AM (VSfsH)

94 Scott Rasmussen may lean to the right, but he wants to be accurate. I don't think the others want to be accurate anymore.

In 2008, Rasmussen's last poll predicted 52% Obama/46% McCain.

Gallup predicted 55% Obama/44% McCain.

Some other final poll numbers were:

IBD/TIPP - 52% Obama/44% McCain
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby - 54% Obama/43% McCain
Marist - 52% Obama/43% McCain
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl - 51% Obama/43% McCain
Pew Research - 52% Obama/46% McCain
Ipsos/McClatchy - 53% Obama/46% McCain
ABC News/Wash Post - 53% Obama/44% McCain

The election results were

52.9% Obama/45.7% McCain

So, if the left wants to bitch about that--um, okay, whatever.

Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 11:50 AM (/D7/G)

95 L'shanah tovah, esteemed members of the Tribe. Why your peeps vote the way they do continues to elude me, but here's hoping for a safe and prosperous 5773.

Posted by: Ferb Fletcher at September 16, 2012 11:50 AM (hyP1j)

96 78
I saw a comment on a board by some moonbat saying that Romney won't release some of his tax returns for fear of being put in shackles.

Yes people, they are THAT stupid.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 16, 2012 03:46 PM (pdk6E)


The Stupid on that it burns. The IRS that he did release them too are part of the problem or something like that

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at September 16, 2012 11:51 AM (3qeX5)

97

 

We can win this if we don't allow ourselves to be demoralized by media hatchet jobs and numbers manipulation.  The left wing know that Obama's base isn't going to turn out in the kind of numbers they did last time, so they have to try to depress ours.

 

 

 

Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 16, 2012 11:51 AM (g5JeX)

98 But Rove's Electoral College map shows the election virtually impossible to win by Romney.

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 16, 2012 11:52 AM (tOkJB)

99 Canyou great people at AoS give me a simple way to inform these people about the weakened dollar. Thank you. How about something simple like, "What. The. Fuck. Is. Wrong. With. You. People????"

Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 16, 2012 11:52 AM (hjZrn)

100 Canyou great people at AoS give me a simple way to inform these people about the weakened dollar. Posted by: Lilly Lurksalot at September 16, 2012 03:49 PM (z/UGx) Gas pump and groceries. Inflation is pushing those numbers sky high. Another great, easy to understand example of this is restaurant prices. Go out to eat at a nice place, get a couple bottles of wine, nice entree's.... and try not to gasp at the bill. Weak dollars purchase less products and services, so it takes more dollars to get the same thing you paid less for.....say, four years ago....

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 16, 2012 11:53 AM (a4CUi)

101 77 Kristophr, Yup I've been to 3 gunshops today not one had the precise recipe I'm looking for, so I think I'll either order a custom made one or get a Browning Auto 5 as cheap as I can and go from there.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 16, 2012 11:53 AM (E2SBl)

102 But Rove's Electoral College map shows the election virtually impossible to win by Romney. That's been my theme from the start. Romney has a tough road in the EC

Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 16, 2012 11:53 AM (hjZrn)

103 It is all I can do to keep from puking.  Also be aware that after this year there will be a HUGE tax increase for nearly everyone.


I am getting a break on about half of my dividends now that will go away.  I live off of those dividends. So after this year I get a triple whammy.  My net income goes down due to a huge tax increase from both dividends AND rate tables going up.  And on top of that the prices of everything goes through the roof because Obama made helicopter Ben throw out another trillion in fake money so help him try to get reelected. 

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 11:53 AM (YdQQY)

104 How about something simple like, "What. The. Fuck. Is. Wrong. With. You. People????" Sean Bannion, White House Press Secretary

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 11:53 AM (GEICT)

105

I don't see how the Democrats motivate their base to turn out.  The economy is in the shitter and now you've got Barry the Amazing Clusterfuck  bending over backwards to excuse the murderers of his employees. 

 

The embarassments are too many and too visible to ignore.

 

No way you flip Democrats because they're too fucking stupid to change, but  I don't see how the more self-aware ones overcome their disgust with StutterForce One  to stand in line on Election  Day.

 

I'm  predicting low  turnout, not even  including all the minorities  I plan  to disenfranchise.  Even the douchebag hipsters will stay home.  Because it won't be "cool" to vote this year.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2012 11:53 AM (JDIKC)

106 @SCOAMT: The controls on the 1187 are much better placed. It is an improvement on the 870. The 870 is the base for the riot gun because cops have been using the 870 for an awful long time.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 11:54 AM (0aV2C)

107

@100

Sean , some times it's so hard not to do that. 

Posted by: Lilly Lurksalot at September 16, 2012 11:54 AM (z/UGx)

108

Swanny -- as in the erstwhile Ivy League rower who nowadays does crazy kayaking adventures and sells software to support that habit?

 

If yes, there are some who call me Shags...

Posted by: RamonAllones at September 16, 2012 11:55 AM (3lLli)

109 If you are going to an Auto-5, be sure to look at the WWII era copy, the Remington Model 11, as well.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 11:55 AM (0aV2C)

110

Do I have plans to immediately, and by that I mean THE NEXT MORNING, start posting some pictures of me holding up some "From 52 to 48, With Love" type signs?

 

Why yes.  Yes I do.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2012 11:55 AM (JDIKC)

111 Hey

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 16, 2012 11:55 AM (cDwCa)

112 Sven, 3" with a 1oz. slug will do just fine. Also, more rds in the magazine.

Posted by: @SCOAMT at September 16, 2012 11:55 AM (YlmX/)

113 Oh, and Walmart is selling the 1187 cheap right now. Only in woodland camo, but that can be fixed with spray and bake.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 11:56 AM (0aV2C)

114 I have a Remington Model 1100.  One of the best shotguns ever made. I also have an 870 Pump which is also good that I inherited.  Unfortunately it is in 16g model.

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 11:56 AM (YdQQY)

115 I am still wandering in the political wilderness trying to find just one person -- just one -- who did not vote for SCOAMF in 2008 and who, overwhelmed by the fantabulousness of the job Obama has done, plans to vote for Obama this year. Haven't found one yet. Have stumbled across a few 2008 Obama voters who are not nearly as enthusiastically defending him this year and a couple who are downright ticked and how well and truly he boned them with his hopeychangey schtick. But the worst part of the search is the number of absolutely ignorant (in the truest sense of the word) people I come across. They have no clue what's happening in the world. If you mention QE3, you'll be lucky if they think you mean the luxury liner. Middle East? What's that? Is that where oil comes from? Real unemployment? What's the difference? Isn't 8% unemployment ok? Fine by me if these fools choose to remain clueless, as long as they stay home on November 6.

Posted by: natasha at September 16, 2012 11:56 AM (pyYXJ)

116 EoJ, count me in. Email at nic.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 16, 2012 11:56 AM (hjZrn)

117 Never trust rumors.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 11:57 AM (B6GMq)

118 16g was all the rage before WWII. No clue why.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 11:57 AM (0aV2C)

119 president mom jeans is going down.

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 16, 2012 11:57 AM (WrIV3)

120 So, Obama is basically implementing portions of Sharia, and 45 would still vote for him? Unbelievable.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 11:58 AM (B6GMq)

121 I think the argument was stronger than the 20 but not as much kick as thew 12.

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 11:58 AM (YdQQY)

122 But Rove's Electoral College map shows the election virtually impossible to win by Romney.

Rove's said in the past that his map was based on state polls that were infrequent and, thus, shouldn't be read as a current state of the race.  Add to that that swing state polls appear to have been tightening over the last few days.

Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 11:58 AM (/D7/G)

123 81  That's hilarious.  Wish I had the specs for that,  seems it work great for the neighbors cats that want to come shit in my garden and flower beds in the Spring.  Especially the one who called the cops last May cause I sprayed it with a hose.

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 11:58 AM (NmfLU)

124 In the category of A Chart To Make You Smile, see the top post at Doug Ross's place on newspaper advertising revenues:
 
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/
 
One group of the MFM taking it hard and high in the poop deck.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 16, 2012 11:59 AM (ccXZP)

125 I don't mind the 16 but I am sure it will be tough to find shells at a reasonable price.

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 11:59 AM (YdQQY)

126 Add to that Rove is a shit head.

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 11:59 AM (YdQQY)

127

Canyou great people at AoS give me a simple way to inform these people about the weakened dollar. Thank you.

 

1.  Can I see your wallet / purse / billfold for a second?

2.  Extract 5% of Cash contents found therein and pocket it.

3. Return said wallet / purse / billfold.

4.  Answer any charges of  'What the hell do you think...' with an audible, open-handed, slap and the phrse, 'It's for your own good.'.

 

Posted by: garrett at September 16, 2012 11:59 AM (ADYN4)

128 Most 20g shotguns kick harder than the 12, as the manufacturers use 20g as an excuse to make the gun smaller and lighter.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 11:59 AM (0aV2C)

129 @ Bannion  - added you to my contacts.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2012 11:59 AM (JDIKC)

130 I don't see how the Democrats motivate their base to turn out. The economy is in the shitter and now you've got Barry the Amazing Clusterfuck bending over backwards to excuse the murderers of his employees. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2012 03:53 PM (JDIKC) We have our ways...

Posted by: Democratic Party Necromancer at September 16, 2012 11:59 AM (sZTYJ)

131 Used to use a 20g for dove and quail as a kid. Switched to 3" 12g for water fowl. Now, the 870 has a shorty barrel, extended tube, folding stock, and an offset load of slug/buck/slug/buck in the tube all the time.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 16, 2012 12:00 PM (a4CUi)

132 127 The Myth of Rove was mostly Leftist agitprop, not much more.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 12:01 PM (B6GMq)

133 The press thought it would be so great
An election like two thousand eight
But it happened again
Like two thousand ten
And they called us even meaner names

OK, the rhyme didn't work but the accuracy is spot on.

Posted by: Beto at September 16, 2012 12:01 PM (BAnPT)

134 110 Kristophr, Yeah either or I'd like: 1 31/2 inch chamber 2 5-7 shot capability 3 16.5" barrel 4 breach barrel brake 5 ghost ring sights 6 picatinny 7 75-100 yd slug accuracy

Posted by: sven10077 at September 16, 2012 12:01 PM (E2SBl)

135

121

A huge chunk of America has turned into a politically correct/government dependant/mindless Kardashian watching bunch of apathetic cultural debris.  Like I said before, I think we can win this time, but if we don't I really don't see turning the thing around after that. 

 

Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 16, 2012 12:01 PM (6YPY+)

136 Re oversampling Dems, and all the polls that have shown President Obama 9 points ahead (sample size: D+10): I'm starting to think this reflects a real difference between how conservatives and liberals think. If we had a poll showing our preferred candidate up by a statistically inflated margin, our reaction would be, "Hey - this does us no favors at all. It makes us think our guy's ahead but he's really not!" Show these polls to Democrats and they use the media to say: "Look! Our guy's a winner! All the

Posted by: JPS at September 16, 2012 12:02 PM (gkn8g)

137 107 @SCOAMT: The controls on the 1187 are much better placed. It is an improvement on the 870. The 870 is the base for the riot gun because cops have been using the 870 for an awful long time. Posted by: Kristophr All true. I always go the tried & true route, e.g. 870, 1911, and, ummmmm, well, M4. Not including hunting pieces.

Posted by: @SCOAMT at September 16, 2012 12:03 PM (YlmX/)

138 #8: Just for you, because I'm a giver, behold the elbows of Cheryl Ladd...

http://imgur.com/gZm4D

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 16, 2012 12:03 PM (RLZvP)

139 Infidel: Had my neighbor do the same. Was trying to grow grass in bare spots after some stumps were removed, and the stupid varmints kept digging the new grass up for their shit.

She had the nerve to bitch to animal control that I was scaring her cats off with a rake and covering their favorite pooping spots with staked burlap.

I live in Wyoming. The county animal control folks told her she should thank me for not shooting her stupid cats, and that they would be sending an officer out to fine her for not licensing her cats and for admitting on the phone she was violating the town leash laws.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 12:03 PM (0aV2C)

140 @128 garrett,  maybe I sould have them give me a $5, rip about 1/3 off it and give it back to them.

Posted by: Lilly Lurksalot at September 16, 2012 12:03 PM (z/UGx)

141

Rove  is   a big fat weenie.  Rove's  map has/had Texas as 'leaning' Romney.  Unless they mobilize one million Mexicanos to vote, I don't see how it's not   'solid'  Romney.  And no the stoners in Austin do not count.   My apologies  to those that are not stoned RP  lovers in Austin.

 

"Hey Girl.
Do you Swing State?"

 

I wish I did  man. 

Posted by: Mo the girl at September 16, 2012 12:03 PM (CyMFf)

142 Most 20g shotguns kick harder than the 12, as the manufacturers use 20g as an excuse to make the gun smaller and lighter.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 03:59 PM (0aV2C)


LOL, I used to have a 20g pump it didn't kick too hard. But I did come home one eventing with a black and blue shoulder.  Our town used to have an annual pidgin shoot downtown to keep the flocks down.


I shot probably 8 or 10 boxes of shells. I finally quit because my shoulder could not take it any more even with a 20.


The hardest king shotgun I have is a double barrel 12. The hardest one I have ever shot was an old 12 gauge Browning that a friend had. I don't what it was about those but everyone said they kicked like a mule and I agreed.

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 12:04 PM (YdQQY)

143 Combat engineer buddy who's a swat guy says he prefers 16ga BUT he uses a full weight 16ga and he prefers it for CQD infil mostly. I learned on a 12 and have never gotten used to 16 or 20

Posted by: sven10077 at September 16, 2012 12:04 PM (E2SBl)

144 That should be...

http://im-gur.com/gZm4D

(remove the -)

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 16, 2012 12:05 PM (RLZvP)

145 137 Leftists understand crowd psychology, whereas "Rightists" tend to not. The crowd loves a "winner" (where "winner" is defined as someone whom the crowd loves). Logic!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 12:05 PM (B6GMq)

146 Ras is the only pollster that matters right now because he has mega data and he's been tracking likely voters from day one. Romney is in the lead in this thing. Dick Morris makes several good points in this regard, the best being that the even present "Likely voter" models are wrong because they're looking for a 2004 or 2008 turnout. That ain't a-gonna happen. This is more 2010. Anyway, I believe it will take until October and maybe deep into it before the polls will catch up to the reality.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at September 16, 2012 12:05 PM (J9Fxi)

147

Something someone said on another thread struck me as well:

 

Don't just look at the D/R/I breakdown, look at  the FEMALE TO MALE ratio of these polls  - especially the ones that show Barky  with a lead  (as they skew significantly female).

 

Now that more bloggers have become poll-savvy, that's where the pollsters  are "hiding" these  "leads".....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at September 16, 2012 12:05 PM (P6H+d)

148 Romney is doing fine.

When your opponent is destroying himself, don't do anything to stop it.


Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 16, 2012 12:07 PM (he2LC)

149 I live in Wyoming. The county animal control folks told her she should thank me for not shooting her stupid cats, and that they would be sending an officer out to fine her for not licensing her cats and for admitting on the phone she was violating the town leash laws.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 04:03 PM (0aV2C)



LOL, one would think she would not be letting acts out in Wyoming because of the coyotes. My SIL lives in AZ and she says can not let them, out. 


BTW, I have been wanting to move to WY since I retired but wifey screams COLD!

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 12:07 PM (YdQQY)

150 That's been my theme from the start. Romney has a tough road in the EC

Eh, not that tough.

Take the 11 swing states - NV, CO, IA, WI, MI, OH, PA, NH, VA, NC, FL.

Give NC to Mittens, I think that is pretty likely.

Also give NH and PA to Obumbles, which sadly I think is also likely.

Even if Mittens loses FL, he could also win if he takes both OH and MI.  Which is a possibility.

So I don't think it's as bad as you think.


Posted by: chemjeff at September 16, 2012 12:07 PM (d/5qf)

151 We will need the leadership of Jeb Bush, in 2016...after 4 more years of this administration.

Posted by: Karl Rove, this time next year at September 16, 2012 12:07 PM (Z7b/q)

152 138 107 @SCOAMT: The controls on the 1187 are much better placed. It is an improvement on the 870. The 870 is the base for the riot gun because cops have been using the 870 for an awful long time.
Posted by: Kristophr

All true. I always go the tried & true route, e.g. 870, 1911, and, ummmmm, well, M4. Not including hunting pieces.

My preference is either the Mossy 500 or 590.  Love them both (as with my M4).


Posted by: I am a bitter clinger at September 16, 2012 12:07 PM (y12hg)

153 122 I think the argument was stronger than the 20 but not as much kick as thew 12. No, the argument it was stronger than the 20 but not as unwieldy as the 12. You could solve the kick problem with a recoil pad but not the extra weight. Lots of people bought them for their kids because they were easier to swing onto target

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 16, 2012 12:07 PM (tOkJB)

154 Time for a little Mo' Town: http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/09/15/buzz-ballad-ill-be-there/

Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at September 16, 2012 12:08 PM (clpR2)

155 Coyotes stay out of town in Wyoming. People here aren't shy about shooting them.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 12:08 PM (0aV2C)

156 Rasmussen was the best of all pollsters in 2008, being the closest to accurate and the most consistent. Google "2008 Pollster Report Card" and you'll see the usual suspects at the bottom (NYT, CBS, etc.) and Rasmussen comfortably at the top.

Posted by: moviegique at September 16, 2012 12:08 PM (Cepxj)

157 Take the $5, give them back a $1, and announce, 'Congratulations Patriot, you now have some skin in the game.'.

Posted by: garrett at September 16, 2012 12:09 PM (kP8oZ)

158

kristophr - that's funny.  I live in city limits so I couldn't pull out a weapon.  We have leash laws here too, but they are not enforced.  One of many reasons I despise cats. 

 

Okay,  let the hate begin.

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 12:10 PM (NmfLU)

159 All I have to say is that these "bien pensants" on the right can jump ship at any point that they please. Any candidate we had put up would be vilified by the news and entertainment media, we knew that going in. a chicken little attitude about Romney's campaign feeds the liberal beast and becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. One of the few things I respect about the left is that they don't eat their own. Conservatives and libertarians, however, in an attempt to appear fair and intellectually consistent bend over too far in the other direction.

By the way, Rasmussen was (along with Pew) the most accurate poll from 2008 so if he has Romney up by 2 then the conservative commentariat need to chill the fuck out.

Posted by: YouDaManTiger at September 16, 2012 12:10 PM (Lq7d/)

160 Your town is in the wrong state, Infidel.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 12:10 PM (0aV2C)

161 Coyotes stay out of town in Wyoming. People here aren't shy about shooting them.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 04:08 PM (0aV2C)


Just another good reason for moving to WY.  I would like to take that 1100 out to my front yard and shoot the damned cow birds raiding my bird feeder but I would go straight to jail and probably have to pay a huge fine. And this is SC redneck State!

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 12:11 PM (YdQQY)

162  I always liked my Winchester Model 12 Riot Gun but hunt with an 870 pump

Posted by: Beto at September 16, 2012 12:12 PM (BAnPT)

163 160 Many "Conservatives" and "Libertarians" attempt to appease Leftists. (Eat me last, bro.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 12:13 PM (B6GMq)

164 Here's Romney's pickups: Florida Iowa Ohio Michigan Wisconsin Indiana North Caroline (actually, not a pickup) Nevada Colorado Guaranteed.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at September 16, 2012 12:14 PM (J9Fxi)

165 161  Yea, Colorado is not as consevative as it used to be.  Wish I could sell the house and move to TX or WY.

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 12:14 PM (NmfLU)

166 All polls are total garbage. Also, the Cardinals played a hell of a game today. Congrats to them for ending he Patriots home opener winning streak.

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone reactionary at September 16, 2012 12:14 PM (wCdz0)

167 107 @SCOAMT: The controls on the 1187 are much better placed. It is an improvement on the 870. I've gotten so used to the 870 that it's as familiar to me as jerking off riding a bike. I don't want a shotgun where the controls have been moved around.

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 16, 2012 12:14 PM (tOkJB)

168 Throughout FridayÂ’s speech, the loudest reactions came when the president name-checked the nicknames of the soldiersÂ’ brigades. Major military units have their own rival cheers, and those could be heard from portions of the audience when he referred to individual units.

The troopsÂ’ silence continued through several obvious applause-lines.

There was isolated cheers when Obama said his withdrawal policy would ensure “fewer deployments … more time to prepare for the future, and it means more time on the home front, with your families, your home and kids.”

The silence deepened when the president lauded his strategy of withdrawal from the war. “Make no mistake, ending the wars responsibly makes us safer and our military even stronger, and ending these wars is letting us do something else; restoring American leadership,” he said amid complete silence.

When he said demobilized soldiers would find jobs because “all of you have the skills America needs,” he got little reaction.

There was no reaction when he promised stepped-up recruitment of soldiers for police jobs.

He won some applause when he announced his support for soldiers injured in combat.

The most enthusiastic applause came when he lauded the soldiersÂ’ military mission, and promised continued support for that professional task.

Posted by: George S. Patton at September 16, 2012 12:14 PM (e8kgV)

169 U.S. Government Supports Pussy Riot (But Not 'Innocence of Muslims')

Posted by: DAve at September 16, 2012 12:14 PM (hXJEu)

170 Too many CA slugs have moved to CO, AZ, and NV to escape the mess they made and are now making the same mess.

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 12:15 PM (YdQQY)

171 YouDaManTiger: "One of the few things I respect about the left is that they don't eat their own." See, that's one of the things I really disrespect about the left. There's no crime except apostasy that will get them to turn on you. See e.g. Kennedy, Ted; Clinton, Bill; Dodd, Christopher (heroes of women's rights).

Posted by: JPS at September 16, 2012 12:15 PM (gkn8g)

172 31 I'm in Ohio so this is Sven mobile. Deciding on shotgun model. Durka durka. Posted by: sven10077 at September 16, 2012 03:31 PM (E2SBl) -------- Nice dilemma to have.

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 12:15 PM (0VipX)

173 +2 is racist.

Posted by: Dang© at September 16, 2012 12:17 PM (R18D0)

174 Romney is in the lead in this thing. Dick Morris makes several good points in this regard... Ah, the kiss of death.

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 16, 2012 12:17 PM (tOkJB)

175 Wilfork!!

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone reactionary at September 16, 2012 12:18 PM (wCdz0)

176 Infidel: If you really want to see the leash laws enforced, get a large Havaheart trap.

Take the captured stray cats to the county pound. The county will make the owner pay to retrieve them.

If the pound refuses to take them, tell them the cat is damaging your crops, and you will have to drown it instead.

I suspect the pound will take the cat, and several $100 fines/ransoms will teach your neighbors to control their pets.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 12:18 PM (0aV2C)

177

@158 garrett, 

These are people that have all seen increases in insurance  rates, gas prices, food prices and property taxes, but are unaware that because of QEIII- last months dollar isn't going  pay for as much as it did the month before.

Posted by: Lilly Lurksalot at September 16, 2012 12:18 PM (z/UGx)

178 Damn, I just checked prices on the 1100.  The sporting model which are cheaper start at $1100!


I guess money has turned to shit since I bought mine for $500.

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 12:19 PM (YdQQY)

179 Or was that vic?

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 12:19 PM (0aV2C)

180

Too many CA slugs have moved to CO, AZ, and NV to escape the mess they made and are now making the same mess.

 

I know.  A friend and I were plotting a few years ago about bolting a 4x8 piece of plywood to the "Welcome to Colorado" sign at the UT border, that said NO
VACANCY.  But then we sobered up and the  ramifications if we got caught would have pretty severe.

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 12:19 PM (NmfLU)

181 but even so, rumors of the demise of Romney/Ryan have been greatly exaggerated.

That contradicts a buncha posts I read at this blog last week.  Lulz.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 16, 2012 12:19 PM (hO8IJ)

182 #166: Colorado was a pretty solidly Democrat state until the 90s, when it became a red state for about a decade. Californication simply returned Colorado to its previous blue status. The only statewide office held by a Republican right now, IINM, is Secretary of State (thankfully, that's a crucial one).

Hopefully, we'll be swinging back the other way again this year; we came really close to a Senate win in '10, with a fairly weak candidate, so it's certainly possible.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 16, 2012 12:20 PM (RLZvP)

183 Or was that vic?

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 04:19 PM (0aV2C)


If you are talking about the cats wasn't me.

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 12:20 PM (YdQQY)

184 177 thx. Might try that next spring.

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 12:20 PM (NmfLU)

185 Rasmussen was the best of all pollsters in 2008, being the closest to accurate and the most consistent. 

Posted by: moviegique at September 16, 2012 04:08 PM (Cepxj)

He sucked bad in 2010 tho.  Missed generic ballot by 5 points and was off in individual Senate races by average of about 3 points. So its best to assume he's off by a few points until he's proven he's fixed what went wrong.

Posted by: Jon at September 16, 2012 12:21 PM (Onq3t)

186 @115 Natasha, I find the exact same thing - it'd be interesting (and likely frightening) to see what percentage of the populace could answer these questions: * What is QE3? * What happened in Libya this past week? * What is the current unemployment rate (nearest whole number %) and what does that number mean? * What is the national debt (nearest trillion)? I bet it's under 10% that can get 3/4 of those. Hell, for that matter, I wonder how much of the general population could even answer these correctly: * Who is Mitt Romney's running mate? * What is the current VP's name? * What is a trillion? Then again, they could easily counter those questions and stump me with: * Who won American Idol last year? * Who all did Snooky sleep with in the last season of Jersey Shore? * How much ObamaStash do you get when you make a baby?

Posted by: Swanny at September 16, 2012 12:21 PM (ZthpO)

187 Gotskowski, wide left... Cards win. My kudos still stands.

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone reactionary at September 16, 2012 12:21 PM (I2LwF)

188 I guess I just start thinking 12g now when I talk about cats ... and I like cats, but damned do the stupid little crapping machines play hell with gardening.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 12:22 PM (0aV2C)

189 169 To be fair, Obama's applause lines seem to have mostly consisted of "Surrender! Woohoo!". "Make no mistake, ending the wars responsibly makes us safer and our military even stronger, and ending these wars is letting us do something else; restoring American leadership” -- Obama Yes, because if Obama has done one thing, it's "restor[e] American leadership." Through bowing from behind, I guess.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 12:22 PM (B6GMq)

190 Oops, not $1100, they start at $1200.

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 12:22 PM (YdQQY)

191 I suspect the pound will take the cat, and several $100 fines/ransoms will teach your neighbors to control their pets.


Or the neighbors will let the pound kill the cat and just get a new one.  Cheaper that way.

I take caring for my animals seriously, but most people are not as awesome as I am.


(Ok, I laughed at my evil bastard basement cat when he pulled a whole box of beads down over his head, but he shouldn't have been trying to climb into it.)

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 16, 2012 12:22 PM (hO8IJ)

192

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 16, 2012 04:20 PM (RLZvP)




Do you have the Romney app?  It has when he will be visiting your state.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 16, 2012 12:22 PM (d/5qf)

193 Netanyahu also took aim at critics who believe that a nuclear Iran would help stabilize the troubled region.

“I’ve actually read this in the American press; they said well you know if you take action that’s a lot worse than having Iran with nuclear weapons,” insisted Netanyahu. “Some have even said that Iran with nuclear weapons would stabilize the Middle East.

“Stabilize the Middle East? I think the people who say this set a new standard for human stupidity,” Netanyahu snapped.

He added that Iran has suicide bombers “all over the place” and warned that “since the advent of nuclear weapons, you’ve had countries that had access to nuclear weapons, who always made a careful calculation of costs and benefits.”

With respect to Iran, Netanyahu warned, “I wouldn’t rely on their rationality.” Netanyahu pointed to President Kennedy’s imposition of such a line during the Cuban missile crisis of the 1960s, a move that may have “purchased decades of peace” with the then Soviet Union.


Posted by: Hedy Lamarr at September 16, 2012 12:23 PM (e8kgV)

194

Watch this race come down to Florida again like in 2000. I still think Romney must win Florida. The 29?  electoral votes are necessary to ensure a win. 

 

I say that Romney/Ryan should pull a "Biden" and go around kissing the old ladies. I won't be looking, however.

 

 

Posted by: Mo the girl at September 16, 2012 12:23 PM (CyMFf)

195

Hopefully, we'll be swinging back the other way again this year; we came really close to a Senate win in '10, with a fairly weak candidate, so it's certainly possible.

I'm in Western CO so it's been pretty reliably red since I got here in '75.  The other side of the mountain, not so much.  Telluride and Eagle/Vail have been leftys for a long time too.

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 12:24 PM (NmfLU)

196 Watch this race come down to Florida again like in 2000.


Not going to happen. Bambi will be lucky to get 10 States.  This election will be over by about 9 pm EST.

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 12:24 PM (YdQQY)

197 HeatherRadish: Most people care enough for their pets to pay the fine.

The ones that don't shouldn't have them anyway.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 12:24 PM (0aV2C)

198 Leash laws for cats?  That's ridiculous.

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 16, 2012 12:24 PM (he2LC)

199 I think the poll is wrong. I think Romney, at least here in Florida, is up over 5 points. Maybe 10. I do not care as Florida will go RED.

O/T, but did y'all read about the Norwegian in Chicago who tried to kill infidels this past week? Google: Adel Daoud

Hint: he does not blame the movie Susan Rice, Hillary and all of the rest of the incompetent administration hold fast to as their ship sinks.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at September 16, 2012 12:25 PM (baL2B)

200 #193: I don't, actually. I don't have a smartphone, and I'm too lazy to deal with getting a smartphone emulator for my computer. Besides, presidential candidates only seem to visit CO while I'm at work. I'll just have to settle for being there in spirit.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 16, 2012 12:25 PM (RLZvP)

201 The 29? electoral votes are necessary to ensure a win.

They are not *as* necessary this time around because WI and MI (and to a lesser extent PA) are in play this time.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 16, 2012 12:25 PM (d/5qf)

202 It ain't ridiculous when that cat starts destroying stuff, Bart.

It's your pet. You are responsible for what it does.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 12:26 PM (0aV2C)

203 194 Nothing helps stabilize a troubled region like nuclear weapons. True fact.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 12:28 PM (B6GMq)

204

...That top sidebar thing..."Halloween is coming!"....pic of the Barky Mask...

 

That mask has a lot of uses...IYKWIM.

 

Posted by: wheatie at September 16, 2012 12:28 PM (Z7b/q)

205 204 194

Nothing helps stabilize a troubled region like {{ Detonated }} nuclear weapons. True fact.

Fixed it for you, Mitt.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 12:29 PM (0aV2C)

206

>>Do I have plans to immediately, and by that I mean THE NEXT MORNING, start posting some pictures of me holding up some "From 52 to 48, With Love" type signs?

 

I'm going for subtle and passive-aggressive, and will just post cute pictures of the kids, bunnies, 'n kittens on Facebook while they're all crying.

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 16, 2012 12:29 PM (SUKHu)

207 My problem animal was a neighbor's Jack Shit Terrier.  He kept digging holes in my lawn. I complained a couple of times.  When he started digging up my foundation I went to the neighbor and told her she needed to take care of the problem or I would.


She gave the shitty little dog to a friend who lived on a farm.  I hate those dogs. 

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 12:29 PM (YdQQY)

208

It ain't ridiculous when that cat starts destroying other peoples stuff, Bart.

Just a clarification.

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 12:30 PM (NmfLU)

209 200

Remember too that since 2010 Florida has gone deep red locally... we have an R supermajority in the state legislature and Gov Scott is hated by the libs (good!).

I was hoping we'd redistrict Corinne Brown into oblivion but perhaps that was asking too much.

Posted by: weew at September 16, 2012 12:30 PM (ElfHn)

210 Sorry.  I didn't know cats destroy stuff (does pooping in your flower count?).   I never heard of a leash law that applied to cats.




Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 16, 2012 12:30 PM (he2LC)

211 JPS:

Perhaps I should've clarified a bit, I understand your point and agree with it. When I spoke of eating one's own, I was referring to the chicken littles of the conservative and libertarian shade who are ready to start vigorously waving white flags when Romney is, at best, ahead or, at worse, even. Now is not the time for the faint of heart to be proselytizing their doomsday faith.

Posted by: YouDaManTiger at September 16, 2012 12:31 PM (Lq7d/)

212 206 Well, sometimes too much stability is not necessarily a good thing.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 12:31 PM (B6GMq)

213 Vic: it gets easy to hate someone's pet when they won't keep it under control.

Too bad for the pet, really. It's amazing how much trouble a little responsibility can fix/prevent.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 12:31 PM (0aV2C)

214 Not going to happen. Bambi will be lucky to get 10 States. This election will be over by about 9 pm EST. Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 04:24 PM (YdQQY) Are the MFM gonna call states as the data comes in or wait until the polls in the western states close?

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 16, 2012 12:31 PM (tOkJB)

215

Are the MFM gonna call states as the data comes in or wait until the polls in the western states close?

 

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 16, 2012 04:31 PM (tOkJB)

 

 

NEVER!!!!!

Posted by: Eric Holder at September 16, 2012 12:32 PM (hXZf2)

216 She gave the shitty little dog to a friend who lived on a farm. I hate those dogs.


She shouldn't have a dog if she can't train it.
You can't ignore a dog and expect it to behave.
People who are failures at dogs shouldn't have children either.

Posted by: Beto at September 16, 2012 12:33 PM (BAnPT)

217

186 In which direction was   Rasmussen off-base about the   percentages?  Did he predict more for  the  Republicans? 

 

I would still  feel more comfortable with Romney winning Florida....blue states tend to have more electoral   votes.  Romney may have a lot of red states, but they are small  the electoral count.  But then again,   I am not really up on the latest stats/voting trends.   So I'm not the best judge there.

 

Posted by: Mo the girl at September 16, 2012 12:33 PM (CyMFf)

218 I never heard of a leash law that applied to cats.


Leash laws here apply to ALL animal pets.  And they are ALL enforced the same, not at all.

In fact, when I first moved here one of the neighbors had doberman that would get after the kids at the bus stop.  I complained and got a standard "my dog wouldn't do that" answer.


I called the cops the next time it happened and they told me to shoot him. I didn't get to because the damned dog was smart and he would see the gun and run between houses.


A different neighbor who had two daughters took care of him one night.

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 12:33 PM (YdQQY)

219

Bart, yes it does.  Do you want to pick herbs and vegetables to eat from the garden with cat piss and shit in it?  I sure don't.

 

/rant off

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 12:34 PM (NmfLU)

220 Bart: in my case, the neighbor's cats destroyed a weeks worth of yardwork last spring trying to replant a lawn.

Dug up every last bit of loose dirt they could find, since they didn't like pooping in the same place if they could help it. I watched all that new grass get buried, and the weeds took over again.

This fall I had to spend another $60 on weed poison, buy another $50 worth of seed, 3 more yards of potting soil, and this time three large rolls of burlap and a bunch of wooden stakes.

The burlap went over the new planting so I wouldn't have to kill my neighbor's stupid cats.

And yet she still had the gall to bitch about it. To the county.


Leash laws do apply to cats in most jurisdictions, but are not enforced unless someone's cat becomes a problem.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 12:36 PM (0aV2C)

221 So what are the odds on the Jets Steelers?

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 12:36 PM (NmfLU)

222 She shouldn't have a dog if she can't train it.
You can't ignore a dog and expect it to behave.
People who are failures at dogs shouldn't have children either.

Posted by: Beto at September 16, 2012 04:33 PM (BAnPT)


She has another dog and a cat that haven't been a problem.  Just that one. She doesn't keep any of them on a leash or in a fence.


The other dog did get into a fight with another dog down the street.  When a kid came out to separate them he kicked that dog and got bit.


She had to tie him up for 10 days and they told her if he bit anybody else they would put him down.


If he had bit one of my kids I would have put him down there on the spot.

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 12:37 PM (YdQQY)

223 For those who are complaining that Romney isn't being agressive enough.. well.. to quote Samual Jackson in Jurassic Park.  Hang onto your butts.  It's coming. 

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at September 16, 2012 12:37 PM (UljOc)

224

Speaking of Colorado..........I do think this year is different. We had to go into the People's Republic of Boulder yesterday and I only saw 2 Obama bumper stickers. At this time in 2008 they were on every freaking car there.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at September 16, 2012 12:39 PM (W3UHW)

225 BTW -- there's a better way than SS&S. Replace the second S with a railroad overpass where gondola cars pass pass underneath on a regular schedule.

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 16, 2012 12:39 PM (tOkJB)

226 Dolphins Wha????

Posted by: DAve at September 16, 2012 12:40 PM (hXJEu)

227 Hell I just drive down a dirt road and dump them in a spot the buzzards can get to.

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 12:40 PM (YdQQY)

228 That doberman though would have wound up in his owner's yard.

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 12:40 PM (YdQQY)

229 I see the same thing on trips to Fort Collins, westminsterdogshow.

I think the bloom is really off Barky for the poor hippies.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 12:40 PM (0aV2C)

230 The MSM is so in the bag for obama, I don't believe anything they are even remotely involved with

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 12:41 PM (j1gX1)

231 I think Ras IS wrong but erring on the conservative side (narrower Rep win). BHO is down over 2% in the last 24 hours on Intrade. Which sucks because I'm trying to get verified so I can place a bet before the crash.

Posted by: moviegique at September 16, 2012 12:42 PM (Cepxj)

232 He sucked bad in 2010 tho. Missed generic ballot by 5 points and was off in individual Senate races by average of about 3 points.


Unfortunately, he was.  However, so were a bunch of others too.  Gallup was even worse.

From Real Clear Politics:

Poll / Reps / Dems / Spread
Final Results / 51.6 / 44.8 / Republicans +6.8

RCP Average / 50.7 / 41.3 / Republicans +9.4
Gallup / 55 / 40 / Republicans +15
Reuters/Ipsos / 50 / 44 / Republicans +6
Pew Research / 48 / 42 / Republicans +6
Rasmussen Reports / 51 / 39 / Republicans +12
CNN/Opinion Research / 52 / 42 / Republicans +10
FOX News / 50 / 37 / Republicans +13
ABC News/Wash Post / 49 / 45 / Republicans +4

To the extent this argues for him being skewed Republican, it argues for Gallup being even more skewed Republican, which I don't think anyone would buy. This doesn't absolve from getting 2010 wrong, but it doesn't really indicate that he should be dismissed in favor of others.  Nobody, really got 2010 right (Pew got the spread right, but was still off in the final numbers) except for Reuters/Ipsos, which...I guess I should give Ipsos more credit, but with Reuters in there I'm just going to say f'k it and attribute it to luck.  Because.

Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 12:44 PM (/D7/G)

233 Take it from me, because I've totally been right about every election ever, but Obama's totally going to win it in a walk.

Posted by: Gerg = tard yeah so? at September 16, 2012 12:44 PM (aHR5E)

234 obama and his pals ( susan rice in particular) are doubling down on the stupidity that obama is wildly popular in the Arab World? Romney or his surrogate really have to pounce on that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 12:45 PM (j1gX1)

235 I saw the Rasmussen poll and just for everyone's info--a study was done to see which poll was most correct at the last election 2008 and 2012. There were two--I don't remember one, but the other was Rasmussen--exactly right. I know the other was not Quinipac (or however that's spelled) nor Gallup--nor any of the media polls.

Posted by: scotsfury at September 16, 2012 12:47 PM (W08yv)

236 Barky should go on a friendship tour of the mideast!

That will fix everything! He is so popular there. He can bow and everything!

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 12:47 PM (0aV2C)

237 The electoral math is really not that bad for Mittens.  Just playing around with 270towin.com, even if you spot Obama with NH, PA, MI, CO *and* OH, if Mitt takes FL, VA, IA, WI and NV, he wins.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 16, 2012 12:48 PM (d/5qf)

238 scotsfury:

The other poll you're grasping for is Pew.

Posted by: YouDaManTiger at September 16, 2012 12:48 PM (Lq7d/)

239 They told me Scott Walker had a love child!

Posted by: Gerg at September 16, 2012 12:49 PM (/YJYi)

240 228 Hell I just drive down a dirt road and dump them in a spot the buzzards can get to. Moving the body three or four states away pretty much insures the "disappearance" will never be linked to you. Kids wandering in the woods (do they do that anymore?) find the darnedest things.

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 16, 2012 12:51 PM (tOkJB)

241 Yes, let's heed the wisdom of the people who can't put together a decent effigy to burn...

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 16, 2012 12:52 PM (3CiXB)

242 235 Heh. If Arabs like King Hussain, it's because they think he likes Islam.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 12:52 PM (B6GMq)

243 obama and his pals ( susan rice in particular) are doubling down on the stupidity that obama is wildly popular in the Arab World? Romney or his surrogate really have to pounce on that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 04:45 PM (j1gX1)


Where glad you don't know what's going on in Asia between China and Japan.

That's some real shit storm brewing.

WAIT! D'OH!


Posted by: The MFM Place Guards at September 16, 2012 12:52 PM (qUlBE)

244 An off thread that I was reminded of by the photo of the guy who made that video being taken away.

In one picture there is a deputy that has his hand on the man's shoulder.

That is physical contact. It is a physical statement that the deputy has taken charge of a prisoner. Anyone in that situation would recognize that "threat" that if he does not proceed where he is being directed, he will physically be taken there.

It's a recognized gesture used by police and prison guards the world over. He was arrested. Just because they allowed him to leave without being in handcuffs means nothing.

He was IN CUSTODY.

Also, the media was alerted to the arrest just so those pictures could be taken and spread. They also assured that he could not return to his dwelling (a fact I am sure was taken into consideration when the media was called as now no one can reach this guy and he's afraid to BE reached.)

I'm just surprised that they didn't have the TSA do the arrest.

Posted by: Jcw46 at September 16, 2012 12:52 PM (Vh0f5)

245 230 I sure hope so.  I haven't seen too many O stickers here either.  they were everywhere in 2008.

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 12:53 PM (NmfLU)

246

 Two things that are affecting the poll numbers...

 

1) People are lying to the pollsters...afraid to say they're voting against Barky.

 

2) Fewer people than ever before...have land lines.  Pollsters are even admitting that this is a problem.

 

I would imagine that these two things were a reason why the polls in 2010 were off, as well.

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at September 16, 2012 12:53 PM (Z7b/q)

247 Seriously, is there any greater sign that one's civilization is a complete failure than using stuffed sweatshirts and a printout of a face for a hate rally?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 16, 2012 12:55 PM (3CiXB)

248 245 Progress!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 12:56 PM (B6GMq)

249 238 The electoral math is really not that bad for Mittens... The maps and analysis from Rove, RCP and others argue strongly to the contrary. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 16, 2012 12:57 PM (tOkJB)

250 Yes, let's heed the wisdom of the people who can't put together a decent effigy to burn...
That's why you need me and should pay my $100G in college debt!!!

Posted by: puppetry major grad student at September 16, 2012 12:57 PM (vDl/w)

251 248 Perhaps holding hate rallies.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 12:57 PM (B6GMq)

252 They called my dad on his work phone. I asked him what he said. Exact quote "I lied, you don't think I was actually going to tell them who I'm voting for, do you?" He could not remember what poll called, just that it wasn't his favorite pole, rasmussen. He says "I would have told rasmussen the truth if it was them". My dad is a regular guy. Makes you wonder how many other regular folks are lying.

Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 12:57 PM (oZfic)

253 #247: I was out of town for a couple of weeks, visiting a friend (hence my recent absence around here), and we were approached by a pollster while going into a Target earlier this week. I told the pollster I was definitely voting for Romney, but my friend said he's not voting for either of them. He told me a moment later, once we were inside, that he just doesn't like talking to pollsters, but he's voting for Romney, too. This friend is a moderate who leans slightly to the right.

So, I agree that a lot of people are lying to pollsters.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 16, 2012 12:59 PM (RLZvP)

254 Thought for the day: If you manage to live your life without ever raping a 9-year-old girl, you're a better person than the greatest Muslim who ever lived.

Posted by: Palandine at September 16, 2012 01:00 PM (g7D8V)

255 Okay, off to the theater to see 2016

see ya later

Posted by: chemjeff at September 16, 2012 01:02 PM (d/5qf)

256 Words to live by, Palandine. Words to live by.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 16, 2012 01:02 PM (RLZvP)

257 See you, ChemJeff! Have fun!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 16, 2012 01:02 PM (RLZvP)

258 I think there is a huge unreported story on the black vote--gay marriage. Prop 8 wouldn't have passed without the votes of blacks who voted for the JEF. There is no way the JEF gets the same level of turnout as he did in 2008, yet every pollster is assuming it will be the same. I'd say that the JEF has a minimum of 1% to 2% LESS than what the polls show just on that alone.

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 16, 2012 01:03 PM (imtbm)

259 so basically, your dad is a liar....and that's where you got it from......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 16, 2012 01:03 PM (Ho2rs)

260 Berlin Jewish Museum event calls for Israel boycott By BENJAMIN WEINTHAL, JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT09/16/2012 17:41Jewish institution hosts Judith Butler, who renews support of BDS movement; 700-strong audience cheers boycott call. In an email to The Jerusalem Post on Saturday, Professor Gerald Steinberg, who heads the Jerusalem-based NGO Monitor, termed the cultural institution the “Berlin anti-Jewish Museum.” The World is one fucked up place.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 01:04 PM (j1gX1)

261 wheatie:

1. Not sure about people being afraid to say they're voting against Obama. That didn't seem to be that big of a factor last time.

2. Including folks who don't have land lines would not help Romney's poll numbers. I'm thinking that demo skews heavily Democratic.

Posted by: YouDaManTiger at September 16, 2012 01:04 PM (Lq7d/)

262 Obama will be crushed. Riots will ensue. Hillary will remain sedated... But, the Obama campaign won't even realize Romney won, and will continue to run parallel ads during our favorite football games. We will laugh.

Posted by: no worries at September 16, 2012 01:04 PM (IPhbB)

263 Here's how I'd rank the Gang of 14 if I were betting:

DEFINITELY Romney - North Carolina, Indiana, Missouri

CONFIDENT Romney - Florida, Wisconsin

LEAN Romney - Iowa, Virginia, Ohio

TOSSUP - Nevada, New Mexico

CONFIDENT Obama - New Hampshire, Colorado, Michigan

DEFINITELY Obama - Pennsylvania

Posted by: The Q at September 16, 2012 01:04 PM (B/yDO)

264

Posted by: chemjeff at September 16, 2012 05:02 PM (d/5qf)

 

 

Movie review later?  I want to see it, just not sure I could sit thru 2 hours of TFG.

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 01:04 PM (NmfLU)

265 255 People who think sexual intercourse with children is a question of morality always make me wonder... Because for most men, children don't induce boners, and the aforementioned people come off as oblivious to this fact.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 01:05 PM (B6GMq)

266 The poll this post is about says bad things about Obama, so libtards like pray for peace bad mouth polls in these comments.

When a poll says good things, he will claim polls are inherently accurate.

Pravda is what ever it needs to be.


Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 01:08 PM (0aV2C)

267 261 Must be some version of the leper effect.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 01:08 PM (B6GMq)

268 Mittens wins PA and the election is over by 815pm EST. Hell.... Mittens might even win MA. This election is 2010 times 1.25. People are pissed and JEF is going down.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 16, 2012 01:08 PM (jucos)

269 Good ole Rasmussen. Meanwhile, everyone's upset about the MFM, a sure sign the GOP is losing.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 16, 2012 01:09 PM (i0vBR)

270 JEF is going down. Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 16, 2012 05:08 PM (jucos) Down goes Frazier, Down goes Frazier, Down goes Frazier

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 01:09 PM (j1gX1)

271 So, MUMR, you feel that pedophiles aren't really guilty when they commit rape, that they just have a "condition"?

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 01:09 PM (0aV2C)

272 Where glad you don't know what's going on in Asia between China and Japan.That's some real shit storm brewing.WAIT! D'OH! Posted by: The MFM Place Guards at September 16, 2012 04:52 PM (qUlBE) China's next president hasn't been seen or heard in two weeks. Japan's ambassador to China was found dead in an alley under mysterious circumstances. China has sent "patrol ships" to disputed islands. Chinese are rioting and storming the Japanese embassy -- while vocally demanding war. Cats and dogs are living together. This will not end well...

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 16, 2012 01:10 PM (sZTYJ)

273 Just got a poll call from one I'd never heard of. She was going to ask a bunch of questions. I told her she can answer them all keeping this in mind. Obama is an America hating liar. All Dems are America hating liars. The msm are all liars. I will crawl across broken glass to vote. Hung up.

Posted by: teej at September 16, 2012 01:10 PM (EYfcP)

274 Or am I misinterpreting your statement? Please explain, thanx.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 01:11 PM (0aV2C)

275 The irony. Iranian Regime Threatens to Sue Obama Using New UN Blasphemy Law He Signed Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, September 16, 2012, 4:03 PM - Gateway Pundit In December the Obama Administration pushed a UN resolution that banned criticism of Islam. The Obama Administration helped the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) push through their resolution condemning the stereotyping, negative profiling and stigmatization of people based on religion. Team Obama led the way for the resolution to pass through the General Assembly. Now the Iranian Regime is threatening to sue Barack Obama using that same blasphemy law. Press TV reported: A senior Iranian official says US President Barack Obama could face legal action in connection with the production of an anti-Islam movie by an American Jew... This is how ideologically blind Obama is. Dumb as a rock.

Posted by: disgrace at September 16, 2012 01:12 PM (IPhbB)

276 It’s a whole new ball game! A video has surfaced of two frisky fans hitting a home run in a Yankee Stadium bathroom stall as the Bronx Bombers beat the Tampa Bay Rays Saturday, the sports blog Deadspin reported. The man, clad in a CC Sabathia jersey, and woman started having sex in the second inning and lasted until the fourth or fifth — and attracted a slew of onlookers, including several stadium employees, an unidentified tipster told the blog. "At one point, there was a brief time where people were legitimately jockeying for position outside the stall to take pics either over or under, and even standing up on the toilet bowl on the neighboring stall," he added. The couple allegedly continued to run the bases even after they realized they had an audience. The Yankees said Sunday they were aware of the alleged situation but had no comment. The Yanks were leading 3-0 after two, and no one scored again — except the frisky fans — until the bottom of the fifth. Well I guess there are worse things to do a game?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 01:12 PM (j1gX1)

277 Why aren't these polls like 95% Romney? Who are these stupid immoral f*€ks who are still willing to vote for Obama? I find that very depressing

Posted by: Can't help but notice at September 16, 2012 01:12 PM (hSSpg)

278 272 Yes, I think mentally ill people are mentally ill.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 01:12 PM (B6GMq)

279 @MUMR, it seems to have worked that way for Muhammad (propeller beanie upon him). He told Aisha's father to give her in marriage to him when she was 6 years old because he'd "dreamed" about her. Islam's holy books say he took her dolls away and raped her when she was 9.

Muhammad was a pedophile, or a child rapist...your call.

Posted by: Palandine at September 16, 2012 01:12 PM (g7D8V)

280 Japan's ambassador to China was found dead in an alley under mysterious circumstances.Posted by: The Political Hat

Where did you read that?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 16, 2012 01:13 PM (3CiXB)

281 So then pedophiles should not be put in prison for pedophilia, MUMR? Is that your position?

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 01:13 PM (0aV2C)

282 That they are not capable of controlling their impulses, and you just have to expect them to commit statutory rape?

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 01:14 PM (0aV2C)

283 The officiating today has been horrible. The Ravens/Eagles game sucked because of it. Now they are fucking up the Redskins/Rams game. Steven Jackson just scored a TD that these morons blew the call on, and I say that as a die hard Redskin fan. Bad officiating is bad officiating and it is frustrating to have games outcomes hinge on bad calls, win or lose.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 16, 2012 01:14 PM (jucos)

284 I don't have a land line. It'd be stupid to pay twice for the same service.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 01:14 PM (zxrQh)

285

262 wheatie:

1. Not sure about people being afraid to say they're voting against Obama. That didn't seem to be that big of a factor last time.

 

"Last time"...?

You mean in 2008? ....He didn't have the power to punish people in 2008.



 

2. Including folks who don't have land lines would not help Romney's poll numbers. I'm thinking that demo skews heavily Democratic.

 

The hell you say.

I know rural people in three different states who no longer have land lines.

They are voting Romney.

 

Posted by: wheatie at September 16, 2012 01:15 PM (Z7b/q)

286 Three days before the deadly assault on the United States consulate in Libya, a local security official says he met with American diplomats in the city and warned them about deteriorating security.
http://is.gd/qq2nDl

Posted by: Gerry at September 16, 2012 01:15 PM (HCyjC)

287 277 Than having sex? Probably. Than watching people have sex? Maybe. But fewer.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 01:16 PM (B6GMq)

288 Few people in my sphere have landlines any more. Idiots at ATT jacked the prices up too high and lost a shitload of loyal customers who all have cell phones these days.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 16, 2012 01:16 PM (a4CUi)

289 I've received two polling calls this year on my cell.

Posted by: teej at September 16, 2012 01:16 PM (EYfcP)

290 "Maybe Rasmussen is +2 points or so too friendly to Republicans"

I'm sure it has been mentioned several times already, but Ras is the only poll that is trying to be unbiased.  Even so, his sample seems to be a little too heavy on the Women/Men sample.  That is hardly "too friendly".

Simple fact.  Every poll is over sampling Dems.  All of them show a slight Romney lead when normalized against a rational sample.  However, if this election were to turn out R+2 instead of D+2, then Romney wins in a blow out.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 01:17 PM (dX4hn)

291 However, if this election were to turn out R+2 instead of D+2, then Romney wins in a blow out. Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 05:17 PM (dX4hn) True story

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 16, 2012 01:18 PM (a4CUi)

292 280 Yes, Mohammed was mentally ill on top of everything else. But hitting him on the "everything else" part is a bit more classy. But hey, let's make sure every thread on the internet is about sex with children. For the children!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 01:18 PM (B6GMq)

293 Posted by: wheatie at September 16, 2012 05:15 PM (Z7b/q) We have a land line at home, but basically only for the Alarm ( that is hardly ever on--yeah yeah I know, don't ask). I never answer it because it is only people asking for money - donations- I am not a dead beat. My wife used to tell them I am dead.Maybe wishful thinking on her part? She sure did smile a bit when she said it?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 01:18 PM (j1gX1)

294 Over on Twitter: @DanHannanMEP asks: " A question for American readers: Would the Bill of Rights get through Congress today?" Just thinking of that answer is depressing... tie for another tasty beverage...

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 16, 2012 01:18 PM (sZTYJ)

295 The regular officials suck and blow. They are demanding pensions, for goodness sake. It's cuckoo. The replacement officials are a bit worse, but I think they're improving. Imho the announcers are hyping it too much.

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 01:18 PM (5H6zj)

296 I had two polling calls on my cell as well. Didn't answer them because I didn't recognize the number. Googled the number later and figured it out.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 01:19 PM (zxrQh)

297 This RG3 looks like the real thing

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 01:20 PM (j1gX1)

298 I don't think pollsters bother calling people in Utah. LOL

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 01:20 PM (5H6zj)

299 Yeah Y-not. Not much for swing State drama out your way.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 01:21 PM (zxrQh)

300 282 Prison is not the place for mentally ill people. Western Civilization, however, has (had) developed a place where mentally ill people can go and receive the help they need. Turn off your television and try to think where that might be.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 01:21 PM (B6GMq)

301 I'm just wondering why they called me in CT.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 01:22 PM (zxrQh)

302 283 You can't expect insane people to be sane, which is why insanity is a bad idea.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 01:22 PM (B6GMq)

303 301 Western Civilization, however, has (had) developed a place where mentally ill people can go and receive the help they need. Turn off your television and try to think where that might be. Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 05:21 PM (B6GMq) Congress?

Posted by: Rondinellamamma at September 16, 2012 01:23 PM (53riN)

304 Prezident  Preezy  talked  to  me  on  the  air!  I  gots  all  kindsa  axcess!  Not  like  that  Iz -real  chump.

Posted by: Pimp With A Limp at September 16, 2012 01:23 PM (wIgpo)

305 This RG3 looks like the real thing Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 05:20 PM (j1gX1) --------------------------------------------------------- He sure does. My son went and bought his RGIII jersey on the day he was drafted. It is fun to watch my boy (16) get so excited about it. Reminds me of myself at that age. I used to live and die by Fran Tarkenton and the Vikings.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 16, 2012 01:24 PM (jucos)

306 RG3 the real thing? Ha! I mean sure he won the Heisman but he was playing in the Big 12. And everyone knows how weak that conference is. off.

Posted by: teej at September 16, 2012 01:25 PM (U7Ivf)

307 Western Civilization, however, has (had) developed a place where mentally ill people can go and receive the help they need. Turn off your television and try to think where that might be. Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 05:21 PM (B6GMq) Congress? Posted by: Rondinellamamma at September 16, 2012 05:23 PM (53riN) No, no. Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney explicitly stated that it was a place where they could get the help they need. Congress is a place that causes people to seek help they so desperately need.

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 16, 2012 01:25 PM (sZTYJ)

308 MUMR, you're a troll, so this isn't for you, but for people who actually read and comprehend.

Egypt is a land where 90% of the women have had all their external genitalia lopped off for Allah. It's a place where reporter Lara Logan was raped by up to 100 men in Tahrir Square while they chanted "Jew, Jew, Jew..." They and the rest of the worshippers of the pedophile prophet can take their hurt feelings and cram them until they choose to live in the 21st century.

Posted by: Palandine at September 16, 2012 01:26 PM (g7D8V)

309 304 Heh.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 01:26 PM (B6GMq)

310 309 That's true. My IQ is rather low.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 01:28 PM (B6GMq)

311 Two southeast companies that make U.S. military uniforms are shedding hundreds of jobs, as the government looks to federal inmates for the fatigues. American Power Source makes military clothing in Fayette, Ala., but its government contract expires in October. Federal Prison Industries – which also operates under the name UNICOR will snag the work, and leave the task to inmates. FPI has the first right of refusal for U.S. Government contracts, under a 1930 federal law. American Apparel, the Selma, Ala., based military clothing manufacturer closed one of its plants and continues to downsize others due to the loss of some of its contracts to FPI. According retired Air Force colonel and spokesman Kurt Wilson, the company laid off 255 employees and cut the hours of 190 employees this year alone. So private workers end up losing their jobs to prisoners. "The way the law is – Federal Prison Industries gets first dibs and contracts up to a certain percentage before they have to compete against us," Wilson, the executive vice president of business development and government affairs, said. "The army combat uniform, for instance, is an item that they take off the top. As a result American tax payers pay more for it – but the bottom line is each soldier is paying more for their uniform." American Apparel charges $29.44 per uniform, but the FPI uniform costs $34.18 – a 15 percent difference. Why pay less?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 01:28 PM (j1gX1)

312 Do not knock goat fucking until you have tried it my friend. 

Posted by: Achmed (You better pronounce the "ACH" or I keel you) at September 16, 2012 01:28 PM (/YJYi)

313 289 Few people in my sphere have landlines any more. Idiots at ATT jacked the prices up too high and lost a shitload of loyal customers who all have cell phones these days. Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 16, 2012 05:16 PM (a4CUi) I shut my landlines down 8 years ago. FK em.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 01:28 PM (9TTOe)

314 Really happy about RGIII. Smart, level-headed, and great arm. The main thing that makes me happy is that the team has been roused out of the several year long lethargy it had been in. They actually look focused for a change.

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 01:28 PM (5H6zj)

315

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 05:18 PM (j1gX1)

 

Heh.

Yeah, we still have a land line....for emergencies, mainly.

We rarely ever use it, or answer it, it's hooked up to an answering machine that gathers dust.

Friends and family call us on our cell numbers.

 

 

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at September 16, 2012 01:29 PM (Z7b/q)

316 313 Do not knock goat fucking until you have tried it my friend. Posted by: Achmed (You better pronounce the "ACH" or I keel you) at September 16, 2012 05:28 PM (/YJYi) The ACH is pronounced like you are working on a hocker. If you don't it offends them.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 01:29 PM (9TTOe)

317 I would like to see a comparison of the polling from 2010 and today, going back say from June up to the election. I would bet 2010 had the same bullshit meme of D's winning big. Rasmussen is probably the most honest of all the pollsters. In any case, look for the most accurate polls starting 10 days before the election, when the assholes desperately scramble to repair their reputations. Romney will win. The only thing that is questionable is the margin of victory.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 16, 2012 01:30 PM (+tqYo)

318 Friends and family call us on our cell numbers. Posted by: wheatie at September 16, 2012 05:29 PM (Z7b/q) Yeah everyone who needs to talk to me calls me on my cell. If it ain't on the cell I know it ain't important.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 01:31 PM (j1gX1)

319 We all need a little beauty in our lives, entirely suitable for viewing anywhere...no elbows or pron.

http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Y5XJbSqwriM?rel=0

I have a land line and I am far from stupid.  The land line is for the security system, which I do not want to be dependent on cell towers in a Tulsa style storm.  BTW, the security system does have a cellular fail safe.

Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dimocrat at September 16, 2012 01:32 PM (kXoT0)

320 Conspiracy theory #9. TFGZ and his innermost circle knew of the Benghazi attack plan, then decided to let it play. A reverse wag-the-dog. A worst-case scene plays out, with our-main-man-in-country getting whacked. That's OK, we can deal with this, they say. The video and the Arab-street taking its usual insult stance, fired up by the radical clerics, was a known thing, known at the time the intel about Benghazi occurred. Team TFGZ starts with just a start of a thought. What if? What if? What if, given this Mogadishu-type murder and mayhem in Benghazi, we just lay low, keep our heads down, and remain quiet, surely Romney will say something if we give him time. Let's tell our press buds to get ready to pounce, because NO MATTER WHAT HE SAYS, an attack can be made.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at September 16, 2012 01:33 PM (HIidb)

321 Living in a swing state is a bitch. We get polling calls several times a week, and we have just resorted to not answering the phone if it isn't someone we know.

Posted by: MrCaniac at September 16, 2012 01:33 PM (1grxW)

322 The mandate in ObamaCare requiring Americans to buy health insurance is poised to go into full effect as a result of the recent Supreme Court ruling. But the IRS has no plans to get agents involved in enforcing the mandate – or at least not to the agency’s fullest extent. A top IRS official says the agency does not plan to perform audits or penalize those who fail to buy the insurance. President Obama’s law overhauling U.S. health care -- passed in 2010 and upheld by the high court this year -- charges most Americans a penalty if they fail to buy insurance starting in 2014. “We will not use levies, liens or criminal prosecutions if taxpayers have unpaid amounts related to the individual-coverage provision,” Steven Miller, an IRS deputy commissioner, said Tuesday at a House Ways and Means subcommittee hearing. “There will not be revenue agents involved in this. These will not be audits.” Anyone who believes that must be an idiot or a democrat

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 01:33 PM (j1gX1)

323 "But Rove's Electoral College map shows the election virtually impossible to win by Romney."

I know this was a joke, but I just looked at this last week.  It shows MANY paths to victory for Romney.  Rove is showing NC almost off the table for Obama, and Romney now tied in VA and FL.

Romney has a pretty easy path to the Bush 2000 states, and can add Iowa and Wisconsin.

Keep in mind, Rove is counting these D+ over sampled polls in his averages.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 01:33 PM (dX4hn)

324 312 Wasn't FDR in office in 1930?  Too busy to look it up.

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 01:34 PM (NmfLU)

325 Let's tell our press buds to get ready to pounce, because NO MATTER WHAT HE SAYS, an attack can be made. Posted by: The littl shyning man at September 16, 2012 05:33 PM (HIidb) If they did that. They have pegged the stupid meter.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 01:34 PM (9TTOe)

326 Wasn't FDR in office in 1930? Too busy to look it up. Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 05:34 PM (NmfLU) Hoover. FDR got in in 32

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 01:35 PM (j1gX1)

327 The latest on the ground report in my neighborhood: in 2008 in my redder than red county (making these scarce Dems of the batshit die hards type), several on my usual walk had signs for the JEF, and they have had signs for the local and state Dems since then. Today? Still not one sign for the JEF. I can't say I'm 100% certain, but I'm sure they had their signs out by this time in 2008. The ground troops know its over, no matter what the whores in the media say.

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 16, 2012 01:36 PM (imtbm)

328 My whole family ditched our landlines. We're all voting Romney.

Posted by: Ruby at September 16, 2012 01:37 PM (vt4Ip)

329 If you look at Scott Rasmussen's results over the Last ten years...I can't see Republican favortism. I personally tend to take him literarily within a standard margin of polling error. What I don't understand is the existing support for Progressive Fascists and their "Supreme Leader" Hussein Obumbler. RiverRat

Posted by: RiverRat at September 16, 2012 01:37 PM (NRQJk)

330 It is hard to pick a single shotgun. I use my Rem 1100 in 20ga. for quail and dove. I use another Rem 1100 in 12ga. for pheasant. I use a Rem 870 (3-1/2") for turkey and waterfowl ( but that 3-1/2" ammo will beat the shit out you). If I had to pick one gun to do it all, I'd pick a 12ga. 1100 in 3" with a Remchoke system. A classic gun, but make sure to carry a spare ejector, gas rings, and pins. I have for 30 years.

Posted by: Charts and Darts at September 16, 2012 01:38 PM (XP96a)

331 He sure does. My son went and bought his RGIII jersey on the day he was drafted. It is fun to watch my boy (16) get so excited about it. Reminds me of myself at that age. I used to live and die by Fran Tarkenton and the Vikings.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 16, 2012 05:24 PM (jucos)


I can remember living and dieing by Sonny Jergenson/Billy Kilmer and the Skins back then. My dad and I would watch the Skins in the 1pm game, then watch the Raiders in the 4pm game.

Posted by: MrCaniac at September 16, 2012 01:38 PM (1grxW)

332 @320 I didn't meant to imply stupidity on anyone else's part. Personally, I have no use for a land line other than incoming and outgoing phone calls. My cell does that and more. For me it would be stupid. YMMV.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 01:38 PM (zxrQh)

333

 

It seems...disrespectful...to have our military uniforms made by convicts.

Just seems wrong.

I wouldn't care if it costs more, for them to be made by other US companies.

 

I'm all for cutting costs.

But lets fire some fat-assed bureaucrats at the GSA....make cuts in other places....rather than have our military have to wear uniforms that were made by inmates.

Posted by: wheatie at September 16, 2012 01:38 PM (Z7b/q)

334 "The maps and analysis from Rove, RCP and others argue strongly to the contrary.

Just sayin'."

And I'm just sayin that all of those examples are using bad data.

Let's go back to 2010.  What was the most outside the boundary prediction for GOP pickups?  65 seats.  All the "smart people" were saying 30 to 45.

What was the result?  65 seats.  The rule of thumb is the most GOP leaning poll is most likely right.  Been that way since 1980.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 01:39 PM (dX4hn)

335 My computer is actually my land line.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 01:39 PM (9TTOe)

336 330 They're actually Progressive Socialists (i.e. they believe in establishing a socialist order gradually instead of abruptly).

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 01:40 PM (B6GMq)

337 320 Those are beautiful horses.  Thank you.

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 01:42 PM (NmfLU)

338 I'm all for cutting costs. But lets fire some fat-assed bureaucrats at the GSA....make cuts in other places....rather than have our military have to wear uniforms that were made by inmates. Posted by: wheatie at September 16, 2012 05:38 PM (Z7b/q) I always thought Prisons should be large self sustaining colonies. Farm there own food, raise there own cattle, maintenance there own Facilities. Offer training for these things. Screw the big walls and fences. An electronicly activated explosive collar outside the inner sanctum. You don't work and learn. You don't eat.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 01:42 PM (9TTOe)

339 I'm all for cutting costs. But lets fire some fat-assed bureaucrats at the GSA....make cuts in other places....rather than have our military have to wear uniforms that were made by inmates. Posted by: wheatie at September 16, 2012 05:38 PM (Z7b/q) It's not cutting costs. Look at what I posted again. It costs 15% MORE when they are made by the Prisoners!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 01:43 PM (j1gX1)

340 331 I shot skeet for all my young life with a Model 1100 16ga
After my Dad passed I found my old skeet jacket with a bunch of "50" patches, a few "75" and five "100"s
I loved that shotgun

Posted by: Beto at September 16, 2012 01:43 PM (BAnPT)

341 I was just in CO fishing for a week.  Mixed signals.  Had a developer say Obama would take the state and everyone living over 8,000 ft would be voting for him.  Limousine liberals.  Saw a storefront Obama office, full of mid aged old hippie women. Not a man in sight.  They had NO bumper stickers.

Came through Glenwood Springs, saw one of the Romney buses and a rally, son there?   Romney signs all over the road.

Hard to figure out.  I'd say CO is lean red, but very little.

Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 16, 2012 01:43 PM (wR+pz)

342

>>The World is one fucked up place.

 

l'Shanah Tovah!

Posted by: garrett at September 16, 2012 01:44 PM (EK/Rt)

343

Hoover.  Ack.  Not suprised.

 

waterin flowers.  bbl

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 01:44 PM (NmfLU)

344 Rasmussen and maybe Gallup seem like the only ones even trying to get an accurate read on things. Most other polls these days are just glorified push polls.

Posted by: Crazy Bald Guy at September 16, 2012 01:44 PM (8ltUk)

345 It's not cutting costs. Look at what I posted again. It costs 15% MORE when they are made by the Prisoners! Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 05:43 PM (j1gX1) You are correct sir. Another Federal tax payer sodomizing program.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 01:44 PM (9TTOe)

346 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 05:42 PM (9TTOe) ---------------------------------------------------- I like the cut of your jib, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 16, 2012 01:44 PM (jucos)

347 Disagree... They're Progressive Fascists... Here's an earlier personal analysis... Does this define the Progressive Fascism; also known at the American Democratic Party and their supreme leader Barack Hussein Obama? These are textbook definitions of the schizophrenic melding of these philosophies which give us todayÂ’s Democrat Party. This is not the country I grew up in but itÂ’s been heading this way since the presidency of Theodore Roosevelt in 1912. Progressive American progressives tend to advocate progressive taxation and oppose the growing influence of corporations. Progressives are in agreement on an international scale with left-liberalism in that they support organized labor and trade unions, they usually wish to introduce a living wage, and they often support the creation of a universal health care system. In the United States, liberals and progressives are often conflated, and in general are the primary voters of the Democratic Party which has a "large tent" policy, combining similar if not congruent ideologies into large voting blocs. Many progressives also support the Green Party or local parties such as the Vermont Progressive Party. Fascism The fascist party is a vanguard party designed to initiate a revolution from above and to organize the nation upon fascist principles.[16] The fascist party and state is led by a supreme leader who exercises a dictatorship over the party, the government and other state institutions.[17] Fascism condemns liberal democracy for basing government legitimacy on quantity rather than quality, and for causing quarreling partisan politics, but deny that the ideology is entirely against democracy.[18][19] Fascists claim that their ideology is a trans-class movement, advocating resolution to domestic class conflict within a nation to secure national solidarity.[20] It claims that its goal of cultural nationalization of society emancipates the nation's proletariat, and promotes the assimilation of all classes into proletarian national culture.[20] While fascism opposes domestic class conflict, fascism believes that bourgeois-proletarian conflict primarily exists in national conflict between proletarian nations versus bourgeois nations; fascism declares its opposition to bourgeois nations and declares its support for the victory of proletarian nations.[21] Fascism advocates a state-controlled and regulated mixed economy; the principal economic goal of fascism is to achieve national autarky to secure national independence, through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.[22] It promotes regulated private enterprise and private property contingent whenever beneficial to the nation and state enterprise and state property whenever necessary to protect its interests.[22] At the same time, fascists are hostile to financial capital, plutocracy, and "the power of money".[22] Please think about it!

Posted by: RiverRat at September 16, 2012 01:45 PM (NRQJk)

348 While I doubt anyone cares, apparently the oh-so-relevant Jesse Ventura has endorsed Gary Johnson for President. So he's got that going for him.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 16, 2012 01:46 PM (aHR5E)

349 From KForce Nightwatch:

"Comment: One difference from past eruptions of Islamic ire is that in some Arab countries demonstrators not only denounced the US and Israel, they also denounced President Obama by name, calling for his death. This is the first time that anti-American sentiment was personified.

Readers need to know that these protests were uniformly anti-American. Equally significant is that local security forces were prone to not oppose the demonstrators in multiple cases."


-----

Can the U.S. afford to re-elect such a globally unpopular leader?

Posted by: Concerned Globalist at September 16, 2012 01:46 PM (PcoXF)

350 @MaryAnnAhernNBC: BREAKING: Union source no deal, no school Monday #CTUstrike

Wa-wa.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 16, 2012 01:46 PM (3CiXB)

351 Posted by: RiverRat at September 16, 2012 05:45 PM (NRQJk) OK, but they are both evil and antithetical to American values.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 01:47 PM (9TTOe)

352 I decided to take a quick look at the polls in Ohio just to see what's really going on. Now, the NBC poll didn't have the crosstabs for how many Indepedents voted for each candidate, so I just assumed Dems and Republicans vote for their own party at 95%. Other numbers don't change it much. NBC is most recent. Current (NBC, PPP, Gravis): Obama: 50%, 50%, 47% Romney: 43%, 45%, 43% I-diff: +6R, +2R, +17R D-R diff: +10D, +4D, +10D Those are some big skews for DRI splits. But in 2008, it was +8Dems. So lets look at the same poll, but using the 2008 DRI split of 39/31/30. Obama: 50%, 51%, 44% Romney: 45%, 44%, 45% That's a big shift for the Gravis poll. The other two stayed roughly the same where Romney gained 1 point. If we take the 2010 exit poll in party affiliation of 36/37/28, we get this: Obama: 47%, 48%, 41% Romney: 50%, 48%, 49% If you'll note, Romney's numbers are fairly identical in all three polls regardless of which DRI you pick. The narrative that Romney is falling off is untrue. This means that something is going on with Obama's numbers. But they're not going up either. It's the DRI skew that's being manipulated as seen above. The Gravis poll is what makes it look like a trend. But their skew and Indies is completely out of whack. The reality is that nothing has changed in Ohio and is very close with Romney being very near or above 50%. This is why the Dems in the media are in full panic mode and attacking Romney.

Posted by: MrX at September 16, 2012 01:47 PM (ZsAO3)

353 339 What people seem to forget is that a lot of inmates aren't serving life sentences and therefore, yeah, it's a good idea to actually try to "correct" them instead of just abusing them and then "setting them loose."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 01:48 PM (B6GMq)

354 351 @MaryAnnAhernNBC: BREAKING: Union source no deal, no school Monday #CTUstrike Wa-wa. Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 16, 2012 05:46 PM (3CiXB) HAHA, I just heard that sound that Bozo the clowns band played when you miss bucket #6.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 01:48 PM (9TTOe)

355 RG3 was a really good move for the Redskins. Mike Shanahan's coaching style requires an excellent quarterback. That's all there is to it. That's not a knock against Shanahan; it's just an observation on how he operates.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 16, 2012 01:48 PM (RLZvP)

356 340 Yes, but prisoners sort of work for/"belong to" the Government (which also explains the higher costs), so Progress!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 01:49 PM (B6GMq)

357 The replacement officials are a bit worse, but I think they're improving. Imho the announcers are hyping it too much.

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 05:18 PM (5H6zj)

 

From the stuff I've seen them blow I'd say its hyped enough.  There have been some stupidly blown things.  Like Seatle getting a 4th timeout.  A block in the back being waved off.  The play clock hitting zero and the play still going off.    And that was only half of the ones that I saw while watching the games last week.

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 01:49 PM (GULKT)

358 350 And that shithead Rice was on FOX this morning saying the protests were not Anti-American but all about "The Film"

Posted by: Beto at September 16, 2012 01:49 PM (BAnPT)

359 We kept onto our landline through California, but now we've dumped it. I did like have the option of using it for business/services types of calls, but it's just not worth the expense and our internet is not through a phone provider.

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 01:50 PM (5H6zj)

360 286:

The hell you say.
I know rural people in three different states who no longer have land lines.
They are voting Romney.


Well since you trotted out some facts that are completely anecdotal I guess I should just admit defeat and save us both some time.

Surely we could agree on a couple of facts that might lead us to an inductive supposition:

1. Most folks that don't have land lines are under the age of 40.
2. Most folks under the age of 40 skew Democratic.
3. Therefore most folks who don't have land lines skew Democratic.

Do I know people who don't have a land line and are voting for Romney? Yes, hell I don't have a land line and am voting for Romney. Do our anecdotes mean shit when predicting the overall trend? Only if they confirm the data set and I don't believe they do.

Posted by: YouDaManTiger at September 16, 2012 01:50 PM (Lq7d/)

361 And that shithead Rice was on FOX this morning saying the protests were not Anti-American but all about "The Film" --- Of course Rice is all about "The Narrative."

Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 16, 2012 01:50 PM (aHR5E)

362 359 350 And that shithead Rice was on FOX this morning saying the protests were not Anti-American but all about "The Film" Posted by: Beto at September 16, 2012 05:49 PM (BAnPT) She left out the part about dragging his beatin body to the hospital. Even Greta laughed about that one. She said, "I saw the pictures, they weren't taking him to the Hospital.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 01:51 PM (9TTOe)

363 MrX - Good analysis.  I've seen another professional analysis that says Romney is up 3 in Ohio, even in the PPP poll if you fix the samples.  The reason these polls are coming out it to establish a narrative and generate a bandwagon effect.

The dirty little secret is that Obama has no road to victory without winning Ohio.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 01:54 PM (dX4hn)

364 Any updates on that filmmaker who was brought in for "voluntary questioning"? Has he honestly declared that he can see FIVE fingers yet?

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 16, 2012 01:56 PM (sZTYJ)

365 I guess CBS is embargoing RGIII.  Not a single highlight during halftime.  I have yet to see this guy play, and I'm a big Skins fan.

*grrr*

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 01:56 PM (dX4hn)

366 The reason these polls are coming out it to establish a narrative and generate a bandwagon effect. The dirty little secret is that Obama has no road to victory without winning Ohio. Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 05:54 PM (dX4hn) I think it works the opposite way. If Obama is percieved to be winning big, most on his side would say FK it, they don't need me. Many on our side vote because it gives us a sense of community, belonging and responsibility. I also enjoy it. It gives me a sense of power.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 01:57 PM (9TTOe)

367

; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;" class="MsoNormal">This reminds me of the 70's.  The music was great and the President's were sh!t.   Except now the music isn't any good.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 16, 2012 01:57 PM (Rrc6j)

368 348 There's no doubt that Fascists are in favor of watered-down Leftist economic policies and a whole bunch of other things that are reminiscent of Leftism, but the reason the Democrat Party exhibits those traits is because they are trying to water down their Leftism so as to gain more votes. (Think of it this way: Start with a Communist Party. Make it twice as stupid and water its ideology down a little bit. What do you end up with? The Democrat Party.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 01:57 PM (B6GMq)

369 The LP is a good place for Ventura. I wish more libertarians would join and stay in the LP. Especially the Ronulans.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 01:58 PM (0aV2C)

370 @358 It's dumb mistakes, but if the league wanted to correct it they just have to have the booth official (who is a regular NFL person as I understand it from the games I watched earlier this season/pre-season) be more involved in those sorts of rules-related calls. It seems like the visual calls are going about as well as the regular refs. So as these guys get up to speed on NFL rules, it should be ok. And, frankly, it disgusts me that the NFL officials are whining for more compensation. Their main demand is that they don't want to have their guaranteed contribution pensions converted to 401k. These are part-time employees and many of them (when I've heard them talked about over the years) are dudes from well-paying professions (lawyers and such). I'm shocked that they even HAVE pensions. The calls are never perfect. It's not rocket science. The NFL will survive a few weeks of these guys who will continue to improve, I'm sure.

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 01:59 PM (5H6zj)

371 Example of being a class act instead of a acting like a narcissist in my email box today. Contrast to TFG doing an interview with a host that calls himself "pimp with a limp" on 9/11. How can there be even 40% folks that will vote for the JEF? (CNN) - Mitt Romney's campaign said Sunday they were calling off a planned rally in Pueblo, Colorado, as not to hinder the investigation into a small plane crash at an airport there. "Due to a plane crash involving a small aircraft at the Pueblo airport that is under investigation we are no longer going to Pueblo," campaign spokesman Rick Gorka told reporters traveling with Romney. "We do not want to interfere with the investigation or any emergency response efforts."

Posted by: Palerider at September 16, 2012 02:00 PM (cQZV0)

372 One of my co-workers was told by a lib that the filmmaker was in "protective custody". You know, for his safety.

Posted by: AmeriDan at September 16, 2012 02:02 PM (cq3QL)

373 Libs aren't buying "it was the film!" I know they are not because my politically engaged lib friends and family on Facebook are dead silent about recent events in the ME. If they bought Obama's explanation they would be proudly and loudly defending it and cheering on Dear Leader. But all I've seen is one Obama voter post a link about how the former SEAL who died with the Ambassador was a proponent of "religious tolerance." (I don't do politics on FB because of business purposes so I had to bite tongue and walk away from PC when I saw that.) Consider this a statisticallly significant survey. Rice and the rest of the blame-the-video hacks are not only embarassing themselves and the administration but helping America look like a foolish laughingstock worldwide. Way to go Barry.

Posted by: TD at September 16, 2012 02:02 PM (+uFux)

374 I need another blog to visit instead of Hot Air.  The Eeoryeism and the top headlines are going to make me slit my wrist before the election.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 02:02 PM (dX4hn)

375 Well it took almost 1 1/4 of games, but the Jets are reverting to sucking again.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 02:02 PM (j1gX1)

376 Listened to a Levin Podcast on the drive home from OBX. His local paper reported that 'absentee ballot' requests were down immensely and there is no push to have them get them. I'll see if i can find the article.

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 02:03 PM (0VipX)

377 Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 05:59 PM (5H6zj) I see no real difference at all. I think the NFL refs may PATCO themselves right out of a sweet job.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 02:03 PM (9TTOe)

378 The LP is a good place for Ventura. --- I don't know why he won't just admit he's a Democrat. I assume it's because the Donks don't make enough noise about legalizing drugs.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 16, 2012 02:03 PM (aHR5E)

379 Behold the power of Incumbency http://is.gd/oJM7ty The Obergruppenführer reports Florida Senate: Nelson (D) 47%, Mack (R) 40%

Posted by: toby928© at September 16, 2012 02:04 PM (QupBk)

380 Why am I watching this game?  I don't give a damn about the Steelers or the Jets.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 02:04 PM (dX4hn)

381 365 To be fair, the little bitch had it coming. Never do anything that might upset King Hussain. It's in the (progressed) Constitution.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 02:04 PM (B6GMq)

382 #371: Also, NFL officials make minimum wage. How do they, or the union, benefit from union representation? It's just silly for both of them.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 16, 2012 02:04 PM (RLZvP)

383 372 Example of being a class act instead of a acting like a narcissist in my email box today. Contrast to TFG doing an interview with a host that calls himself "pimp with a limp" on 9/11. How can there be even 40% folks that will vote for the JEF?

(CNN) - Mitt Romney's campaign said Sunday they were calling off a planned rally in Pueblo, Colorado, as not to hinder the investigation into a small plane crash at an airport there.

"Due to a plane crash involving a small aircraft at the Pueblo airport that is under investigation we are no longer going to Pueblo," campaign spokesman Rick Gorka told reporters traveling with Romney. "We do not want to interfere with the investigation or any emergency response efforts."

Posted by: Palerider at September 16, 2012 06:00 PM (cQZV0)

 

Well just think about the hurricane response for further evidence.  Once the hurricane was through and the convention over Romney went there.  Obama meanwhile had to hastily plan a trip there after Romney beat him to the punch and had to cancel a campaign event for it.

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 02:04 PM (GULKT)

384 Okay, Super Math Morons. Time to boot-strap yourself into the position as an accurate political poll/statistics analyst. If that JournOlist hack Nate Silver can do it with his inaccurate "models". You can sure as hell do it with accurate weighting and models. I look forward to seeing you excel in your new hobby/career. And no, I'm not kidding.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 16, 2012 02:05 PM (G9qZk)

385 Why am I watching this game? I don't give a damn about the Steelers or the Jets. Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 06:04 PM (dX4hn) Because your deeply religious and want to see Tebow? Or not

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 02:06 PM (j1gX1)

386 Toby - That is actually good news for Mack.  The last poll on the race was 52-37.  If he has Nelson under 50% now, he has a chance.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 02:06 PM (dX4hn)

387 375 I need another blog to visit instead of Hot Air. The Eeoryeism and the top headlines are going to make me slit my wrist before the election ---- Legal Insurrection is pretty good. He also have sidebar links to other blogs that kind of serves as a Top Headlines thread. Michelle Malkin's page is also good for links.

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 02:06 PM (5H6zj)

388 I never thought I'd see the Brokeback Boys getting pounded this hard by the Sea Chickens. 

Posted by: Fritz at September 16, 2012 02:06 PM (uRFJj)

389 383 #371: Also, NFL officials make minimum wage. ------- Frankly, I am surprised they're paid at all. It's a sweet gig.

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 02:07 PM (5H6zj)

390 Weasel Zippers is a daily stop for me. I haven't been to Hot Air in ages.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 02:07 PM (zxrQh)

391 381 Why am I watching this game? I don't give a damn about the Steelers or the Jets.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 06:04 PM (dX4hn)

 

Why aren't you watching the game you want to on the internet then? http://www.thefirstrow.eu/

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 02:07 PM (GULKT)

392 #391: It sure is!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 16, 2012 02:08 PM (RLZvP)

393 I like American Thinker, too.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 02:08 PM (zxrQh)

394 TD: You need to separate your your personal and political facebook and blog posts.

Not doing so will get you fired or will hurt your business.


I have two email addresses, and two facebook pages. The email that has honest information attached to it is used only for business email, and is linked to my totally balnd real-name facebook page and my linkedIn page.

If someone googles this email address or my real name, they get very little.


The email address and name I use for political and personal posts is attached to a deliberately anonymized facebook page. I do not get specific about me or my real address with this.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 02:08 PM (0aV2C)

395 395 I like American Thinker, too. Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 06:08 PM (zxrQh) Just don't post on it. You will be banned for percieved slights.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 02:09 PM (9TTOe)

396 NFL cheerleaders are also paid very little (although more than officials). That, too, is a sweet gig.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 16, 2012 02:09 PM (RLZvP)

397 Naturalfake - Are you trying to be snide?

I've been running a Senate election model for weeks now.  It currently shows a 93.4% probability that the GOP will win the Senate.

And yes it is a real, no shit, statistical model.  I'm keeping the Excel file on my desktop and revising it as new polling comes in.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 02:09 PM (dX4hn)

398 381 Why am I watching this game? I don't give a damn about the Steelers or the Jets. -- Because if you don't watch football, the jihadists win. Also, your balls shrink. (I'm told.)

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 02:09 PM (5H6zj)

399 oldsailor's poet ok what did you do there?

Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 16, 2012 02:10 PM (Ho2rs)

400

#391: Frankly, I am surprised they're paid at all. It's a sweet gig.

 

Best seat in the house.

Posted by: AmeriDan at September 16, 2012 02:10 PM (cq3QL)

401 LOL. Yeah, this is the only blog I ever post to.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 02:10 PM (zxrQh)

402 Obama is leaking his internals to the press. Instead of reporting them, they are pushing harder in his support. One can tell how his polling is doing by the way the press acts. Right now, his polling must look pretty shitty.

Posted by: Randy at September 16, 2012 02:10 PM (EuW9O)

403 But if the MSM IS trying to skew the polls to create a bandwagon narrative that Obama is winning -- wouldn't at least one or two of them break from that and do a legitimate poll to make a bit of a name for themselves and get some publicity?   Could all of them be in the tank -- all but Rasmussen? 

Posted by: Alix at September 16, 2012 02:10 PM (0VSVJ)

404 "Why aren't you watching the game you want to on the internet then? http://www.thefirstrow.eu/"

Because I didn't know I could?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 02:10 PM (dX4hn)

405 398 NFL cheerleaders are also paid very little (although more than officials). That, too, is a sweet gig. ---- At least they act as goodwill ambassadors for a team, doing appearances and whatnot, so I can see them being paid are real salary. But, yeah, it's a great opportunity for those gals. I'm sure they get modeling jobs out of it.

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 02:11 PM (5H6zj)

406 Also, your balls shrink. (I'm told.) Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 06:09 PM (5H6zj) I'm sitting on the floor in front of my bed. My balls are ok, but my ass is getting numb.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 02:11 PM (j1gX1)

407 386 Nothing wrong with being religious, deeply or otherwise.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 02:12 PM (B6GMq)

408 @408 Kind of related, I am amused by the various jeans ads touting their crotch design. How long have you poor babies been suffering with squashed balls?

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 02:12 PM (5H6zj)

409 Although I am tempted to make a comment on AllenG's blog.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 02:12 PM (zxrQh)

410 Yeah, this is the only blog I ever post to. --- I used to post at Right Wing News from time to time, but the trolls there are even more obtuse than the ones here.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 16, 2012 02:13 PM (aHR5E)

411 Uhm.  I have to download an app, and have porn links pop up?  I think I'll pass.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 02:13 PM (dX4hn)

412 411 Although I am tempted to make a comment on AllenG's blog.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 06:12 PM (zxrQh)

 

Will you announce it here and put the link in your sig when you do? 

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 02:13 PM (GULKT)

413 401 oldsailor's poet ok what did you do there? Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 16, 2012 06:10 PM (Ho2rs) I was a moderator. I know all the little shit they do. The look for unbelievably picayunish word that may be untoward. Any way, I called another moderator a dumbass on E-mail, not the site, cause he was, and I was dismissed from the site. No shit, that was it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 02:13 PM (9TTOe)

414 Y-not, not since I got rid of my 501s a few decades back.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 02:14 PM (zxrQh)

415 #407: It also gives them lots of opportunities to meet a cool husband who can really bring home the bacon. BCochran would probably tell you as much.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 16, 2012 02:14 PM (RLZvP)

416 Here it is - (from the 10th so probably already covered) http://tinyurl.com/8mj3jnr FREDERICKSBURG — A 92 percent drop in absentee-ballot requests by military personnel in Virginia is raising concerns that the Pentagon is failing to carry out a federal voting law. With only 1,746 military voters in Virginia requesting absentee ballots so far this year — out of 126,251 service members in the state —the Military Voter Protection Project says the system has broken down. And it’s not just in the Old Dominion. MVPP Executive Director Eric Eversole reports significant declines in absentee-ballot requests by service members across the nation. ------ Pam Mitchell, FVAP’s acting director, acknowledged findings in a recent DOD Inspector General report that indicated difficulties service members had in reaching voting offices at military installations. “Over the last six months, we spent a lot of time reaching out to every single one of the 221 installation voting offices,” Mitchell said. “We now believe that voting assistance for our absentee voters is absolutely the best that it’s ever been.” --- And our borders are the safest they've ever been. The private sector is doing fine. Etc.

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 02:14 PM (0VipX)

417 Although I am tempted to make a comment on AllenG's blog. Posted by: Wyatt's Torch

AllenG has a blog?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 16, 2012 02:14 PM (3CiXB)

418 "Could all of them be in the tank -- all but Rasmussen?"

Yes.

Occam's razor.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 02:15 PM (dX4hn)

419 408 Heh.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 02:15 PM (B6GMq)

420 Was visiting a friend. Went to mass at a different church. The priest, in a very gentle way, reminded people about the importance of a strong family and about supporting the sanctity of life. He also basically said "don't hide your faith"....what are you afraid of? "That they'll call you a bigot or say there's a war on women?, that's ridiculous". I liked this priest's homily. He didn't mince words. In the parish where I usually attend mass the priests are all a bunch of scardy cats....not this guy, this guy was like "go out ther and show your faith, show you follow Jesus"...

Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 02:15 PM (oZfic)

421 413 Uhm. I have to download an app, and have porn links pop up? I think I'll pass.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 06:13 PM (dX4hn)

 

I never did and never had any porn links pop up.  You do need to get through a couple ads covering up the flash player.

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 02:15 PM (GULKT)

422 And our borders are the safest they've ever been. The private sector is doing fine. Etc. --- Eastasia, chocolate rations, yada yada yada.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 16, 2012 02:16 PM (aHR5E)

423 Wait?  Tebow is in the game?  Huh?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 02:16 PM (dX4hn)

424 Oh no, I took Pitt and the points expecting Sanchez, but now Tebow is in and the Jets are moving.

Posted by: toby928© at September 16, 2012 02:16 PM (QupBk)

425 324  "A top IRS official says the agency does not plan to perform audits or penalize those who fail to buy the insurance."

You're right, Nevergiveup, and the IRS official doesn't identify what those additional 16,000 new hires will be doing.

Posted by: rabidfox at September 16, 2012 02:17 PM (ac3my)

426 Powerline Ricochet Lucianne TheOtherMcCain is often interesting, if you can stand the format. HA sucks since Malkin left. And it gets worse every month.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 16, 2012 02:17 PM (a4CUi)

427 Holy cow, the 70s _are_ back. Just saw a commercial--Dodge is rebooting the Dart.

SMOD, take us now!

Posted by: Palandine at September 16, 2012 02:17 PM (g7D8V)

428 Instead of just not watching, Conservatives should demand their cable service drop ABC, NBC and CBS.  Not to teach them a lesson, but to put them out of business.   They are deliberately screwing over the country, and the country should return the favor.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 16, 2012 02:17 PM (Rrc6j)

429 mediumheadboy: Is Victory Gin better than Valu-rite vodka?

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 02:17 PM (0aV2C)

430 I'll try again, Buzz.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 02:18 PM (dX4hn)

431 Ryan has been burning up the airwaves with his speeches against Obama. Is Mitt trying to be the Good Cop to his Bad Cop?

Don't hear much from him, but then I'm in a deeeeep blue state.

Posted by: PJ at September 16, 2012 02:18 PM (DQHjw)

432 From the RASMUSSEN poll, I will accept either positive or negative news, because I know it is trying to be accurate. From ALL OTHER polls, I will accept only good news, because I know they are cheerleading for the Dems.

Posted by: edj at September 16, 2012 02:18 PM (+QKfp)

433 And the Dart won't have a slant 6 so it is the 70s with more suck.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 02:18 PM (zxrQh)

434 @410.

Good point. Squashed balls verboten in the Cult.

Posted by: Al at September 16, 2012 02:19 PM (MzQOZ)

435 I'm sitting on the floor in front of my bed. My balls are ok, but my ass is getting numb.


How is the duct tape on your wrists?

Posted by: Jame Gumb at September 16, 2012 02:19 PM (z9HTb)

436 431 mediumheadboy: Is Victory Gin better than Valu-rite vodka? Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 06:17 PM (0aV2C) That's like asking if apples are better than Oranges.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 02:19 PM (9TTOe)

437 All right, Sanchez back in. Jets punt.

Posted by: toby928© at September 16, 2012 02:19 PM (QupBk)

438 399 Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 06:09 PM (dX4hn) I've been doing the same thing since January. My output concurs with yours.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 16, 2012 02:19 PM (a4CUi)

439 418 Right-wing Lies! Obama loves the troops and will in fact be personally filling out their ballots for them.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 02:20 PM (B6GMq)

440 Palandine: I want them to bring back the Fury.

It's the car God drives.

Jeremiah, chapter 32. Verse 37


Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 02:21 PM (0aV2C)

441

Depressing  talking  to  some  independent(ish)  Democrats  today.  The  tsunami  of  negative  ads  Obama  ran  here  in  the  I-4  Corridor  have  them  thinking  Mitt  Romney  is  "evil"   and  "like Gordon Gecko."

 

Apparently  our  national  debt  is  "no  problem."   I  tried  to  explain  the  concept  of   Debt:GDP.   And  mentioned  that  we  are   as  bad  off  as  Spain.   They  found  that  to  be  fine  as  "We're   not  Spain."   This  confirms  my  belief  that  pride  in  the  United  States  and  our  past  history of  being  able  to  avoid  the  cliff  until  now  has  many  people  in  the  country  thinking  the  ordinary  rules  of  economics  simply  don't  apply  to us.   If  Bernanke  doesn't  seem  to  care,  the  MSM  doesn't  cover  it  very  much,   and  the  entire  Democratic  establishment  isn't openly  concerned  why  would  ordinary  citizens  be  any  better? 

 

I  was  speaking  to  an  attorney,  a  financial  advisor,  and  an  accountant  all  the  sort  of  voters  you  might  expect  to  have  second  thoughts.   Yes,  that's  not  encouraging.  I  would  not  conclude  Romney  is  going  to  lose,  but  it  looks  to  be  agonizingly  close  here.  And  of  course,  no  state  actually  in  play  matters  more.

 

Reporting  on  the  ground  from  the  Holy  Swing  State  of Florida. 

 

       

Posted by: Beagle at September 16, 2012 02:22 PM (sOtz/)

442 Instead of just not watching, Conservatives should demand their cable service drop ABC, NBC and CBS. Not to teach them a lesson, but to put them outof business. They are deliberately screwing over the country, and the country should return the favor. Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 16, 2012 06:17 PM (Rrc6j) From the leftist retards over at the FCC: Cable operators with more than 12 channels must set aside one third of their channel capacity for local commercial stations. We're fucked on that angle. Proper fucked.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 16, 2012 02:22 PM (X3lox)

443 Judging from every reporter in the MFM, Obama's smegma must taste even better than Victory Gin.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 16, 2012 02:22 PM (aHR5E)

444 439 All right, Sanchez back in. Jets punt. Posted by: toby928© at September 16, 2012 06:19 PM (QupBk) Put Tebow in and leave him in. He took that rag tag loser Bronco crew to the playoffs on his will. He is special.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 02:22 PM (9TTOe)

445 Sanchez in.....passing game.


Tebow in.....ground game.



Nah, no one will figure that out.......

Posted by: Tami at September 16, 2012 02:23 PM (X6akg)

446 Ok, watching the right game now, but damn does this site have a lot of popups.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 02:23 PM (dX4hn)

447 448 Ok, watching the right game now, but damn does this site have a lot of popups.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 06:23 PM (dX4hn)

 

That's why a dual monitor set up is nice.  The pop ups don't get in the way of full screen mode.

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 02:25 PM (GULKT)

448 How in the Hell is it a "Blind side hit"  when you hit someone dead-center on the sternum? They didn't call that penalty, but the talking heads sure wanted it. WTFBBQ.

Posted by: Al at September 16, 2012 02:25 PM (MzQOZ)

449 Didn't Sarah Shahi start out as an NFL cheerleader?

Posted by: somebody else, not me at September 16, 2012 02:26 PM (nZvGM)

450 That's why a dual monitor set up is nice. The pop ups don't get in the way of full screen mode. Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 06:25 PM (GULKT) Or my big ass Mac where I can have two full size windows open at once.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 02:27 PM (9TTOe)

451 444 Yes, Leftists love freedom. Almost as much as they love America.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 02:28 PM (B6GMq)

452 451 "Sarah Shahi"

Cowboys cheerleader.

Posted by: The Q at September 16, 2012 02:28 PM (B/yDO)

453 451 Didn't Sarah Shahi start out as an NFL cheerleader? Posted by: somebody else, not me at September 16, 2012 06:26 PM (nZvGM) Not just any Cheerleader, a Cowboys Cheerleader.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 02:29 PM (9TTOe)

454 F'n Jets.

Posted by: Matt The Cimmerian at September 16, 2012 02:31 PM (40Ex+)

455 "Eastwood and Chair" http://tinyurl.com/9gu4jsr This is the NBC link. Apparently, my friend says the blaze has it also.

Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 02:33 PM (oZfic)

456 Just got an email from my FIL. He is right of center and I have known for a while that he would be voting (R) this fall, but this seems like a further shift on his part.


He forwarded Mark Steyn's Saturday column in NRO.


Posted by: fluffy at September 16, 2012 02:33 PM (z9HTb)

457 456 F'n Jets. Posted by: Matt The Cimmerian at September 16, 2012 06:31 PM (40Ex+) Kind of like being a Bears fan, moments of athletic brilliance punctuated by horrific inept stupidity.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 02:33 PM (9TTOe)

458 Yes, Leftists love freedom. What makes it doubly infuriating is that the local channels were the ones that people had access to WITHOUT the cable and maintained access to, cable or not. Almost as much as they love America. Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 16, 2012 06:28 PM (B6GMq) Yep. The establishment of the American Socialist Superstate is the Holy Grail of Western Leftism. They're pretty much there, now.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 16, 2012 02:34 PM (X3lox)

459 F'n Jets. Posted by: Matt The Cimmerian at September 16, 2012 06:31 PM (40Ex+) Yes I think that is their official name

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 02:34 PM (j1gX1)

460 Just searched Sarah Shahi. Damn.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 02:34 PM (zxrQh)

461 @ 399 Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 06:09 PM (dX4hn Not being the least bit snide. Let your light shine. There is an opportunity (I believe) here- a real money making business opportunity. If you don't have a blog/website - set one up. Go head to head against the big boys- call them out. See if you can get Insty and other big to refer to you. I know I'm tired of seeing bullshit stats. surely other are as well.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 16, 2012 02:35 PM (G9qZk)

462 I know I'm tired of seeing bullshit stats. surely other are as well. Posted by: naturalfake at September 16, 2012 06:35 PM (G9qZk) Maybe he could buddy up with AG. I heard he has a blog.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 02:37 PM (9TTOe)

463

Anyone  want  to  bet  the  Republicans  end  up  one  seat  short  in  the US  Senate  with  Akin  losing?

Posted by: Beagle at September 16, 2012 02:38 PM (sOtz/)

464 Crude oil should be at least $150 per barrel, Iran's oil minister was quoted as saying on Sunday, and the sanctions-hit country's OPEC governor said current oil prices were not high enough to threaten the world economy. Benchmark Brent crude prices rose to nearly $118 a barrel on Friday, stoking fears that surging energy costs could harm fragile economic growth. Days earlier, Saudi Oil Minister Ali al-Naimi said he was worried by high prices and the kingdom would take steps to moderate them. Iranian oil officials say oil prices are still fairly low and deny there is any danger of current prices hampering growth. Iranian oil minister Rostam Qasemi said on Sunday crude oil ought to be at least $150 per barrel, the Iranian Students' News Agency (ISNA) reported. "During the winter, oil prices always climb," Qasemi said. "So it's natural that this year as well we will have a rise in oil prices in the winter." And this is before Israel strikes. Memo to all morons here: Keep your cars filled up, top them off

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 02:39 PM (j1gX1)

465 Check

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 02:39 PM (zxrQh)

466 A new guys playing barack: http://tinyurl.com/9lh92bw

Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 02:40 PM (oZfic)

467 There is an opportunity (I believe) here- a real money making business opportunity.

If you don't have a blog/website - set one up.



Would you have browser busting maps?

Posted by: fluffy at September 16, 2012 02:40 PM (z9HTb)

468 Anyone want to bet the Republicans end up one seat short in the US Senate with Akin losing? Posted by: Beagle at September 16, 2012 06:38 PM (sOtz/) I don't see Akin losing.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 02:41 PM (9TTOe)

469 Re: "Eastwood and Chair:"  I think the fact that SNL is still on the air is enough to make me question my belief in capitalism.

Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 02:41 PM (/D7/G)

470 Well it is working, but I'd much rather watch on my 55 inch highdef.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 02:42 PM (dX4hn)

471 That Steyn article is in my sig for those who haven't read it. It's a pretty stinging bitchslap to the SCOAMF.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 02:42 PM (zxrQh)

472 I think the fact that SNL is still on the air is enough to make me question my belief in capitalism. Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 06:41 PM (/D7/G) I have not watched it in 15 years at least

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 02:42 PM (j1gX1)

473 "Anyone want to bet the Republicans end up one seat short in the US Senate with Akin losing?"

How much?  Because that is a sucker bet for you, my friend.  Current probability that the GOP wins the Senate outright is 93.4%

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 02:43 PM (dX4hn)

474 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 02:44 PM (6o4Fb)

475 BTW, Wyatt, you got completely hosed in FFL this week with both Bradshaw and Boldin doing jack squat.

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 02:44 PM (5H6zj)

476 I have not watched it in 15 years at least

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 06:42 PM (j1gX1)


The last time I watched it was when Will Ferrell was still on (yeah, he's obviously a big Dem, but I thought his skits were funny), so...10 years?

Forget the anti-Republican bias.  It's just not funny.  There's no way even Democrats can find that funny.

Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 02:45 PM (/D7/G)

477

Nevergiveup,

 

Good  thing  Obummer  gave  the  pipeline  to  China,  won't  allow  drilling  on  federal  lands,  and  isn't  permitting  offshore.   Under  ordinary  free  market  conditions  the  US  would  be  facing  a  huge  oil  boom  which  would  create  all  kinds  of  icky  high-paying  jobs  in  petroleum  and  cause  dirty  ripple  effects  through  the  economy.   If  oil  was  good  for  the  economy  North  Dakota  would  have  really  low  unemployment.   And since  NBC  never  mentions  it, that's  obviously  not  the  case.    

Posted by: Beagle at September 16, 2012 02:46 PM (sOtz/)

478 these replacements refs are bush league

Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2012 02:46 PM (LPRBM)

479 OT: From Breitbart TV - BREAKING: Video Purports To Show US Ambassador Dragged From Benghazi Consulate http://preview.tinyurl.com/8tp9egw

Posted by: Baldy at September 16, 2012 02:46 PM (opS9C)

480 "The dirty little secret is that Obama has no road to victory without winning Ohio. Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 05:54 PM (dX4hn)" Quite right. He'd have to get VA and two of NH, IA, NV, CO. If he doesn't get VA, he needs all four NH, IA, NV, CO and he simply doesn't have the cash and resources to get all four. You will see Obama really fight for OH and VA. I think VA is already lost for Obama. This is why he's going for NV and CO. If you look at where he's visiting, it's OH, NV, CO and IA. He may have NH already locked up, so needs OH and one of the other three. This is his final option. There is no other electoral map that will get Obama to 270 that has any real chance of success. OTOH, if Romney gets VA, OH and FL, he needs only one of CO, NV, NH, IA, WI, MI, PA. If Romney doesn't get OH, then he's in a tough position as well. He needs all four of NV, NH, IA and CO. Or if he can pull out WI, he'll need two of NV, CO and IA. I truly believe Romney is above 50% in Ohio and I think he's getting very close to winning in PA and is why Obama is having to spend lots of money there. I don't think Romney is going for the win in PA. I think he's going for a fight of attrition in PA to give him a winning advantage everywhere else. Same with MI. With WI, Ryan has been going there so often that I think the Obama camp will have to react soon. Only Biden has gone there so far.

Posted by: MrX at September 16, 2012 02:46 PM (ZsAO3)

481 Ok, I have to vent a little here.  I'm voting for Romney, no matter what, but I have to say I'm disappointed in his campaign in Iowa.  I live in the Iowa City area, and since the conventions, I've seen a few different Obama campaign ads.  The number of Romney ads I've seen?  Zero. 

He's given up on Iowa completely as far as I can tell.  It doesn't induce me to contribute cash to his campaign, that's for sure.

Posted by: Marmo at September 16, 2012 02:48 PM (pcgW1)

482 I didn't watch it. Went to the website to see what they did last night. The tone is "treading carefully"....just from watching the two clips...they seem to be straddling some imaginary line. The guy they have playing Paul Ryan is ineffective and dull. The guy playing barack is way better than the old guy who played barack. The guy who is playing romney is very anti romney and it comes through, and he's not funny. It's a far cry from what they did to sarah palin. We'll see if they get bolder.

Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 02:48 PM (oZfic)

483 @481, just watched it. Not gory, and a little confusing, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were the ambassador, who was not moving, and therefore already dead.

You can hear the koranimals wailing "Allahu Akbar," which I don't believe is the traditional cry of someone taking an injured man to the hospital. Yes, the Libyan scum were "helping" the ambassador the same way the Somalis "helped" the soldiers in Mogadishu.

I know, let's give them more foreign aid!

Posted by: Palandine at September 16, 2012 02:49 PM (g7D8V)

484 Wasn't me Y-not. Must be some poseur with the same nic.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 02:49 PM (zxrQh)

485 Darth Axelrod, "I sense a disturbance in the polling force."

Jar Jar Jarret, "Me so shocked Ras showsa Mitts upsa!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 02:49 PM (gPyYF)

486

http://tinyurl.com/9lh92bw

 

The only thing missing is the head doin the tennis match.

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 02:50 PM (NmfLU)

487 481 OT: From Breitbart TV - BREAKING: Video Purports To Show US Ambassador Dragged From Benghazi Consulate http://preview.tinyurl.com/8tp9egw Posted by: Baldy at September 16, 2012 06:46 PM (opS9C) They pull him through the window, saw who he was and started celebrating. Fuck, just.....fuck.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 02:50 PM (9TTOe)

488 You can hear the koranimals wailing "Allahu Akbar," which I don't believe is the traditional cry of someone taking an injured man to the hospital. Yes, the Libyan scum were "helping" the ambassador the same way the Somalis "helped" the soldiers in Mogadishu. I know, let's give them more foreign aid! Posted by: Palandine at September 16, 2012 06:49 PM (g7D8V) According to Susan Rice, they are all paramedics applying CPR

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 02:50 PM (j1gX1)

489 #375 Just One Minute is a good blog, and so is Weasel Zipper. I also like American Thinker and Michelles Mirror.

Posted by: Chilling the most at September 16, 2012 02:50 PM (6IV8T)

490

Dave  in  Florida,

I   hope  you're  right.  But  when  the  Akin  thing went  sideways  I  got  this  horrible  feeling  Akin's selfishness  was  going  to cost  us.   If  the  Republicans  do  win  the  Senate  it's  going  be  by one  or two  seats.   And  we  can't  afford  to  punt  a  once  nearly sure  win.   

Posted by: Beagle at September 16, 2012 02:51 PM (sOtz/)

491

Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 06:48 PM (oZfic)

 

Go the fuck away you pathetic skank.  And take your worthless view that the only people that remember 9/11 are those living in New York City with your rancid smelling crotch too.

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 02:52 PM (GULKT)

492 OK I'm a Jet fan, but these refs suck

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 02:53 PM (j1gX1)

493 OK I'm a Jet fan, but these refs suck Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 06:53 PM (j1gX1) Maybe they match the suckage, Refs to Teams?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 02:54 PM (9TTOe)

494 Again, good analysis.  I think Romney is working two close election maps.  Win Ohio, or win WI, NV, and IA.  I think he is highly likely to win all four.  These assume that Romney has VA and FL well in hand, which looks to be correct right now.

Obama is still competing for Florida right now though.  If he stops coming here and running ads, that will be a big clue.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 02:55 PM (dX4hn)

495 480 these replacements refs are bush league Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2012 06:46 PM (LPRBM) ----- No shit. A great LEGAL hit is now considered pass interference.

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 02:55 PM (0VipX)

496 I just said that.

Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2012 02:56 PM (0D8hD)

497

@470

 

I  don't  trust  polls  at  all,  but  the  last  polling  average  I  saw  in  Missouri  had  Akin  down about 5%.  On  the  other  hand  Romney  is  up  about  15%  in  Missouri,  allegedly.  So  I'm  not  sure  whether  to  emphasize  Romney's coattails  or  Akin's  anchor-like  qualities.   

Posted by: Beagle at September 16, 2012 02:57 PM (sOtz/)

498 Beagle - Chill.  Moving Akin from 75% chance to win to 10% chance to win only shifts the numbers by 4%.  The Dems are defending too many seats.

Math is your friend.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 02:57 PM (dX4hn)

499 Okay just getting caught up on the Jets game and am stocked up on nilla wafers so I'm ready to riot.

Posted by: alexthechick -f u autocorrect at September 16, 2012 02:58 PM (rhx6w)

500 What other polls Ace?  NBC with Dem Sample Plus 10 or Survey USA with 10 percent more 18-30 yrs olds in Florida even though their registration has stayed the same in numbers since 2008?  Give it a rest Ace!  ARG had Romney Up 49-46 and in Ohio has Obama just up 1....I guess Ace means PPP...lol.....NBC...lol....or Fox when they has Dems at 41 percent....I guess Ras just contradicts other polls....BS!  The other polls are so slanted it is funny....in fact in Virginia Romney is now slightly ahead in the RCP Average Ace....but like I said every weekend Ace becomes Allah's Brother and goes Eeyore....boy the Dems work numbers on Ace and Allah!

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 03:00 PM (HDcKc)

501 Inflation.  Take a look at today's Shorpy.  A Sidewalk grocery in 1937 NYC.  5 lb bag of sugar was 37 cents.


The cheapest I have seen around here runs about $7 but according to gov numbers .37 cent in 1937 is 5.57 cents today.

Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 03:00 PM (YdQQY)

502 "He's given up on Iowa completely as far as I can tell. It doesn't induce me to contribute cash to his campaign, that's for sure."

Romney was in IA 3 days ago.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 03:00 PM (dX4hn)

503 So basically,accept dhimmitude and we wont hurt you. As anger flared across the Muslim world Friday over an anti-Islam video from the U.S., the religious leader of Michigan's largest mosque slammed Islamic extremists for attacking U.S. embassies and urged Muslims not to react violently to attacks on their prophet. And he urged the U.S. to do more to stop the people behind the video and those who are promoting it. "Somehow, they should be stopped," said Imam Hassan Al-Qazwini of the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn. "The U.S. response should be much more stronger than verbal condemnation." Al-Qazwini attended the annual Eid dinner Thursday night at the State Department in Washington with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who spoke about the attacks on U.S. facilities that resulted in four deaths in Libya. Clinton said the violence was not justified, a view that was echoed by Al-Qazwini. He said Islam teaches that ambassadors and other guests should always be welcomed. "This is not what Islam preaches," Al-Qazwini said of the fatal attacks. "There is no way we can tolerate killing." At the same time, he said we can't "sit and watch" as the anti-Islam video is promoted. "We can do more to stop inciting violence," he said. Allowing the movie has "broader ramifications for our troops, diplomats and Americans abroad."

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 03:01 PM (6o4Fb)

504 This young whipper-snapper RGIII seems to have a little moxie.

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 03:01 PM (0VipX)

505 501 Okay just getting caught up on the Jets game and am stocked up on nilla wafers so I'm ready to riot. Posted by: alexthechick -f u autocorrect at September 16, 2012 06:58 PM (rhx6w) You got any cream Cheese frosting to dip them in?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 03:01 PM (9TTOe)

506 Nilla wafers? Sounds racist.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 03:01 PM (zxrQh)

507 "Again, good analysis. I think Romney is working two close election maps. Win Ohio, or win WI, NV, and IA. I think he is highly likely to win all four. These assume that Romney has VA and FL well in hand, which looks to be correct right now." What evidence is there that Romney has "VA and FL well in hand?" I don't recall any polling having him ahead in either. And Obama is coming to Milwaukee next weekend. BTW, was at the UW Badgers game in Madison last night and the only political shirts/buttons I saw were a single Baldwin for Senate shirt and a single Romney/Ryan shirt, that's it.

Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 16, 2012 03:01 PM (Jk+oU)

508 Just watched that video. Just awful.

Posted by: Spypeach at September 16, 2012 03:02 PM (fl6jx)

509 BTW, there will be a new MU law poll out this week, so we'll see if WI is truly in play for Romney.

Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 16, 2012 03:02 PM (Lf/c1)

510 This young whipper-snapper RGIII seems to have a little moxie. Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 07:01 PM (0VipX) ------------------------------------------------------- I was thinking chutzpah, but yes moxie works as well.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 16, 2012 03:03 PM (jucos)

511 Speaking bout people and gaffes- what about Obama and Hillary going on and on about the supposedly kind-hearted Libyans who "carried" the Ambassador to the hospital, when the video showing something different (as well as the photos of him with blue lips) goes around? They also lied saying he died in the hospital... Note also the supposed signs carried by Libyans in support of the Ambassador show up after his death, and after US warship re sent to their coast. I have felt so sick and angry since Tuesday, and Obama has exacerbated it all. At least with Bush after 9/11, I felt he cared enough to get to the bottom of it all, and gave a damn about Americans...

Posted by: Baldy at September 16, 2012 03:03 PM (opS9C)

512 Jesus on a pogo stick. A poll troll. I'm out. Gotta grill some ribeyes anyhow.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 03:04 PM (zxrQh)

513 Oh look Greg/toldyaso decided to change his name again.  And he wants to use a fucking college game as political evidence.  HAHAHA.

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 03:04 PM (GULKT)

514

Dave  in  Florida

What  is  your  estimated  breakdown  assuming  things  go  well?

Can't  be  better  than 51  or  52   R.  Not  much  breathing  space.  I'm  a  bit  skeptical  when  it  comes  to  statistical  analysis  of  the  Honey  Boo  Boo  vote.    

Posted by: Beagle at September 16, 2012 03:04 PM (sOtz/)

515 So when we talk about polls or something does an alarm go off in some troll cave somewhere?

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 03:04 PM (6o4Fb)

516 Sorry, not going to feed the troll.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 03:04 PM (dX4hn)

517 Pleased that the Dog Killah beat the Ravens today. It's a nice parting gift for Art Midnight Mover Modell.

Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2012 03:04 PM (ZgBZU)

518 And the ONT has vanished back into the Green Room.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 03:05 PM (gPyYF)

519

361286:

The hell you say.
I know rural people in three different states who no longer have land lines.
They are voting Romney.


 

Well since you trotted out some facts that are completely anecdotal I guess I should just admit defeat and save us both some time.

Surely we could agree on a couple of facts that might lead us to an inductive supposition:

1. Most folks that don't have land lines are under the age of 40.
2. Most folks under the age of 40 skew Democratic.
3. Therefore most folks who don't have land lines skew Democratic.

Do I know people who don't have a land line and are voting for Romney? Yes, hell I don't have a land line and am voting for Romney. Do our anecdotes mean shit when predicting the overall trend? Only if they confirm the data set and I don't believe they do. 

 

Posted by: YouDaManTiger at September 16, 2012 05:50 PM (Lq7d/)

 

------------

 

The problem with your 'inductive supposition' is the fact that there are more people over the age of 40...than under 40.

A lot more.

Which is why SocSec/Medicare is going broke.

And the original cell phone users are in their 50's, and over....people who have had cell phones since they were invented.

 

What we should be considering, is...that of the people who still have land lines...which ones are the ones who are:

A) Answering their land lines?

B) Not afraid to tell the truth about who they're voting for?

 

I would think that the answer to those two questions, would be:

Dem-voters who are eager to say that they're voting for Barky.

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at September 16, 2012 03:05 PM (Z7b/q)

520 519 Dog killer>Double murderer

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 03:06 PM (6o4Fb)

521
#504  Yeah, he was.  But it's depressing seeing Obama ads and no Romney ads.  TV reaches more people than personal appearances do.  I don't get any notices of when Romney will be in Iowa, and I've contributed to his campaign. 

Be that as it may, I proudly display my Romney/Ryan window decal in the midst of progessive idiocracy.

Posted by: Marmo at September 16, 2012 03:06 PM (pcgW1)

522 515 Oh look Greg/toldyaso decided to change his name again. And he wants to use a fucking college game as political evidence. HAHAHA. Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 07:04 PM (GULKT) At least they could send us good trolls. I blame the public school system for their inability to teach basic reasoning skills.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 03:06 PM (9TTOe)

523 Beagle - Most likely result is GOP holds 53 seats.  This is statistical probability only, using each race as an independent probability event.  There is a 40% chance the GOP will hold over 53 seats, and 40% less than 53 seats.  Odds of holding 51 or more is 93.4%.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 03:07 PM (dX4hn)

524 27 I have been doing the same for months......trying to be Breitbart.......

Posted by: fu52 at September 16, 2012 03:07 PM (NZu+i)

525 If they had good reasoning skills they would have determined what a crock socialism is and converted by now.  So the sub-sub-grade of troll is not a bug of the system, but a feature.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 03:08 PM (gPyYF)

526 483 Ok, I have to vent a little here. I'm voting for Romney, no matter what, but I have to say I'm disappointed in his campaign in Iowa. I live in the Iowa City area, and since the conventions, I've seen a few different Obama campaign ads. The number of Romney ads I've seen? Zero.

He's given up on Iowa completely as far as I can tell. It doesn't induce me to contribute cash to his campaign, that's for sure.

Posted by: Marmo at September 16, 2012 06:48 PM (pcgW1)


Don't be concerned.

Posted by: MrCaniac at September 16, 2012 03:09 PM (1grxW)

527 This RGIII guy looks pretty good.  Too bad for him, he plays for the Redskins.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 03:09 PM (dX4hn)

528 527 If they had good reasoning skills they would have determined what a crock socialism is and converted by now. So the sub-sub-grade of troll is not a bug of the system, but a feature. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 07:08 PM (gPyYF) Hmm. Good point.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 03:09 PM (9TTOe)

529 #461: Everyone I know calls them the "Dog-Ass Jets", presumably to distinguish them from the "Football Giants".

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 16, 2012 03:10 PM (RLZvP)

530 529 This RGIII guy looks pretty good. Too bad for him, he plays for the Redskins. Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 07:09 PM (dX4hn) Hey, he could have been a Colt, but they are Racist or something.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 03:10 PM (9TTOe)

531 483 no way Romney had given up in Iowa

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 16, 2012 03:12 PM (85x54)

532 Oh, and for all of you who may not know this:

Posted by: toldyaso at September 09, 2012 08:16 PM (Jk+oU)

Romneylosesbig at September 16, 2012 07:01 PM (Jk+oU)

Posted by: muwarriors at September 12, 2012 10:32 PM (Jk+oU)

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 16, 2012 03:12 PM (yx6fZ)

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 16, 2012 03:13 PM (yx6fZ)

534
#528  No, I'm not a concern troll, just venting a little as I said.  I was on a Romney high after the convention, and now I'm in withdrawals.  There's no Romney exposure on the airwaves here.  Just a fact.

Posted by: Marmo at September 16, 2012 03:13 PM (pcgW1)

535 look on the bright side, Rex your offense is averaging 29 points a game heh

Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2012 03:13 PM (GcwH1)

536 this should work

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 16, 2012 03:13 PM (yx6fZ)

537 >>Must be some poseur with the same nic. Wow! Wyatt's Wookies isn't you? What are the odds?

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 03:14 PM (5H6zj)

538 Great News for Bary Choom and Iron Ballerina the Chitown Cows to continue the moodown

http://tinyurl.com/9ynlzj


Teachers in the nation's third-largest school district met late Sunday for a crucial vote that could end their weeklong strike, as parents and city officials alike waited for the news that could return 350,000 students to classrooms as soon as Monday morning.

Chains that work on you

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 03:15 PM (LRFds)

539 Ok, that should about do it.  Redskins lose, situation normal.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 03:15 PM (dX4hn)

540 Could be that guy Wyatt Earp who used to post here a while back?

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 16, 2012 03:16 PM (zxrQh)

541 71Ace can now play the piano. And he couldn't before.

Posted by: Jack at September 16, 2012 03:44 PM (wUFaM)

 

It's what happens when you give up the flute.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at September 16, 2012 03:16 PM (+pP/7)

542 Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 07:15 PM (LRFds) I had read earlier that it was over, they didn't pass it and there would be no school tomorrow.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 03:16 PM (9TTOe)

543 511 maybe you should check and see if North carolina is still in play ... for Obama

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 16, 2012 03:16 PM (Xfofp)

544 So art thou named for the dark island of Marmo found off the continent of Lodoss.  A wicked island ruled by the Dark Emperor Beld who wants to conquer all of Lodoss?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 03:17 PM (gPyYF)

545 Shouldn't "IdoodoowhereIwant" be all over Greg for spreading negative vibes about the election and the future of the country, etc.?

Posted by: 99% Self-Banned but had to vent at September 16, 2012 03:18 PM (1Y+hH)

546 546 So art thou named for the dark island of Marmo found off the continent of Lodoss. A wicked island ruled by the Dark Emperor Beld who wants to conquer all of Lodoss? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 07:17 PM (gPyYF) I thought it was short for Marmaduke.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 03:18 PM (9TTOe)

547 so anyway....

Looking up travel packages for 2013s Inaugural. Seems to be some fairly good deals for early birds - anybody in?

Posted by: uterus cannon at September 16, 2012 03:18 PM (RLTt1)

548 Man my pick'em choices this week really blew chunks.

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 03:18 PM (GULKT)

549 Osp the latest Fox update says it failed and they are still on strike will check more sources.

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 03:18 PM (LRFds)

550 It's kind of arrogant to conduct a poll where one of the choices is not to vote for our Commander-in-Chief, don't you think? A bit of subtle racism.

Posted by: Chris Matthews at September 16, 2012 03:18 PM (ECYvo)

551 http://tinyurl.com/99c9ac8

Yup still striking Chain that work on YOU

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 03:19 PM (LRFds)

552 Maybe there should be a moron meetup thread for the inaugural, I dunno

Posted by: uterus cannon at September 16, 2012 03:19 PM (RLTt1)

553 457 "Eastwood and Chair" http://tinyurl.com/9gu4jsr This is the NBC link. Apparently, my friend says the blaze has it also. Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 06:33 PM (oZfic) but you wouldn't know because you don't like anything beck.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 16, 2012 03:20 PM (Ho2rs)

554 Jets are gonna lose. Prolly Tebow's fault.

Posted by: wierd flunky at September 16, 2012 03:20 PM (tlhtD)

555

443, Beagle with all due respect I do no buy at all your spin on Independents on the I-4.  I live right here as well and the reaction I have seen has been extremely positive for Romney.  The Obama Ads...well there are now plenty of Romney Ads and Super Pac Ads.  Indies I talk to are tired of Obama and are getting sick of the economy continuing to lose steam.  Plus the price of gas going up and up.  You talk to an Attorney and Accountant...those are DEMS TO THE CORE....Indies my foot!  Not sure if you are real or not...but on this part of the I-4 Corridor Romney signs are popping up everywhere.  My friends are fellow doctors, small business owners and sales people.  So your story I find suspect. Obama ads have decreased over the last week in Central Florida and more and more Romney ads are showing!  So Beagle does not speak for the I-4 Corridor!!  Ryan was just in Oldsmar by Tampa and the rally was jammed!

MX....the most recent Ohio Polls are ARG which has 48/47 Obama and Ras 47/46 Obama.  NBC oversampled Dems by 10....PPP had female to male 60/40 percent and oversampled 18-30 yrs from 2008 and Gravis I do not know much about!  So throw PPP and NBC out of the Ohio Mix!! They are garbage....you show me where in Ohio you will have 60 percent female and 40 percent male...that is the PPP breakdown in their Ohio Poll!

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 03:21 PM (HDcKc)

556 >>Maybe there should be a moron meetup thread for the inaugural, I dunno

I'd attend but I may be in jail by then.

Posted by: DC Mayor Vincent C. Gray (D) at September 16, 2012 03:21 PM (ECYvo)

557 OSP I am not sure.  So I am asking. Before jumping to a conclusion that takes me over the cliff. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 03:21 PM (gPyYF)

558 Press TV reported: A senior Iranian official says US President Barack Obama could face legal action in connection with the production of an anti-Islam movie by an American Jew. “A complaint could be filed with US courts against Obama for his violation of articles 18 and 27 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) calling for respect of faiths,” Javad Mohammadi, the deputy head of the Supreme Council of Cultural Revolution (SCCR), said on Sunday. “Article 18 and 27 of the ICCPR, adopted by the United Nation, stipulate that the religion and the rights of the minorities should be respected,” Mohammadi said. The US government is a signatory to this covenant and has to respect it. Therefore, an individual or an NGO (non-governmental organization) can file a lawsuit against the president of the country for breach of the covenant, he added. Mohammadi heaped praise on the Muslims for their massive protests against the movie, noting “Protest against insults to religious sanctities should not be limited to time, place and customary reactions and we should undertake legal measures.”

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 03:21 PM (6o4Fb)

559 Breaking on Drudge... "SOURCES: POLITICO set to reveal details of Romney campaign infighting; Plans to publish portions of speech chief Romney strategist Stevens ordered and scrapped, just days before convention... Developing late..."

Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 16, 2012 03:21 PM (Jk+oU)

560 @554 yes

Posted by: Spypeach at September 16, 2012 03:21 PM (fl6jx)

561

I can't believe I just discussed polls for so long.  Need to take a shower. 

I'll stick with my run down and vote R plan.  Everything else just makes me crazy.  Trying to figure out how a guy goes from up two to down two and whatnot is like phrenology.      

Posted by: Beagle at September 16, 2012 03:21 PM (sOtz/)

562 I agree with all of you, even the ones who are contradicting each other. Also: I'm not a carrier for MRSA, but someone or some animal in my life is... No idea who

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone reactionary at September 16, 2012 03:22 PM (wCdz0)

563 553  Breaking on Drudge...

"SOURCES: POLITICO set to reveal details of Romney campaign infighting; Plans to publish portions of speech chief Romney strategist Stevens ordered and scrapped, just days before convention... Developing late..."

Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 16, 2012 07:19 PM (Xa2if)

Hey shithead I am as angry as you are that President Romney let an Ambassador get killed then flew to Vegas to have a Foreign Policy Brief from Jay Z and Beyonce....

what a fuckin' loser here's hoping Obama wins and tries to fix the problems President Romney is leaving behind.

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 03:22 PM (LRFds)

564


#546  Um, I had to google (ok, Bing) Lodoss.  I'm constantly amazed at the collective knowledge of the moron horde.  No, Marmo is a nickname based on a French pronunciation of my last name.  I wish it was a little more romanticized, but that's  it.

Posted by: Marmo at September 16, 2012 03:23 PM (pcgW1)

565 Jets are gonna lose. Prolly Tebow's fault. Posted by: wierd flunky at September 16, 2012 07:20 PM (tlhtD) ------------------------------------------------------- You're doing it wrong. It's Romney's fault.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 16, 2012 03:23 PM (jucos)

566

 Thanks, OregonMuse.

And this (Jk+oU) troll has now told us that it lives in Milwaukee.

Figures.

Maybe it's the crying 'Democracy is dead' weenie.

Posted by: wheatie at September 16, 2012 03:23 PM (Z7b/q)

567 By the way Gerg isn't politico the source that said State had no warning?

Yeah wienerz Choadblower

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 03:23 PM (LRFds)

568 You think the troll is going to figure out pretty soon that his posts aren't going to stay up?

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 03:23 PM (GULKT)

569 564 truman what happens to them when you find out? (kidding)

Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 16, 2012 03:23 PM (Ho2rs)

570 No way

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 03:23 PM (dX4hn)

571 BTW comment 561 for whoever is troll busting.

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 03:24 PM (GULKT)

572 why are the Jets punting??

Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2012 03:24 PM (vzLhi)

573 567 You're both wrong,it's that anti muslim filmmakers fault.

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 03:24 PM (6o4Fb)

574 I have a sad, pathetic life. Pray for me.

Posted by: Gerg at September 16, 2012 03:25 PM (/YJYi)

575 LALALALALALALALA Still can't hear you Winning Winning Winning LALALALALALALALALALA

Posted by: Gergsucksbig (cocks, that is) at September 16, 2012 03:25 PM (aHR5E)

576 561 you missed the link right below the politico twaddle that has Romney +6 in NC

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 16, 2012 03:25 PM (ETWo2)

577 Who is Barack OCarter's worse cabinet appointment, Hillary! or Chinless Holder?

Posted by: WalrusRex at September 16, 2012 03:25 PM (04fgZ)

578 574 why are the Jets punting?? Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2012 07:24 PM (vzLhi) Oh I don't know,. Could it be because that useless FKN Sanchez couldn't move the ball with a forklift.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 03:26 PM (9TTOe)

579 An early Happy Birthday to Occupy Wall Street! Should make for a few good laughs tomorrow.

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 03:26 PM (0VipX)

580 Skins have chance for one last drive.

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 03:26 PM (5H6zj)

581 That goddamn President Romney leaning on Helicopter ben to do QEleventy....

doesn't he know it hurts the poor more than the rich?

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 03:26 PM (LRFds)

582 I've never been quite the same since I got that weed that was laced with bath salts and diphenhydramine. Pray for me.

Posted by: Gerg at September 16, 2012 03:26 PM (/YJYi)

583 And the receiver just fucked up.

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 03:27 PM (GULKT)

584 I wish I could blame drugs but that truth is, I've always been stupid. That's why I'm a Democrat.

Posted by: Gergsucksbig (cocks, that is) at September 16, 2012 03:27 PM (aHR5E)

585 567 TM heh.

Posted by: wierd flunky at September 16, 2012 03:28 PM (tlhtD)

586 584 I've never been quite the same since I got that weed that was laced with bath salts and diphenhydramine. Pray for me. Posted by: Gerg at September 16, 2012 07:26 PM (/YJYi) Yo, Dude, you got any more?

Posted by: Tolyatroll at September 16, 2012 03:28 PM (9TTOe)

587 Like I said.  It's the Redskins.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 03:28 PM (dX4hn)

588 Snatching defeat from the jaw of victory since 1995.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 03:29 PM (dX4hn)

589 I do suck cock and it is by choice.

Posted by: Gerg at September 16, 2012 03:29 PM (/YJYi)

590 Sven, I don't agree with you often, but you're a smart guy. You know that this kind of backstabbing in a campaign (and this early) only happens if the candidate is going down in flames. If the polls were truly wrong (due to poor sampling or bias) and Romney's internals were strong, this would not be happening.

Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 16, 2012 03:29 PM (Jk+oU)

591 Here's how I see the Senate as of now. ME is lost to Ind./Dem symp. King MA is going to be close, but right now I give a slight edge to Brown; NV is closer than many suspect, though it'll only go against us if Obama ends up doing very well and his turn-out operation drags Berkeley over the finish line. That means we need +4 without a Veep Ryan, and a +5 without. MT, ND, NE, and WI are easy pick-ups. This leaves us with 50:50 senate with Veep Biden as worst case scenario. If Romney gets VA, then Allen gets the Senate seat. So 51 and a majority. The better Romney does, the more we'll pick up. In order of increasing likelyhood: MI, OH, VL, CT, NM, MO, PA, WV. Honestly, 1980 might not be the best analogy. 1920, or 1932 might be a better one. In 1918, the GOP picked up 7 senate seats, and picked up the house w/ 50 vote margin. In 1920, during a Progressive induced depression, the GOP picked up 61 house seats (91 total from 191 , and an additional 10 senate seats (to give a 59 total seats (out of 96). The budget was cut, the taxes were cut, and spending was cut; this lead to the greatest growth for any single decade in America, and yes, most of the gains in standard of living, technology, &c. was permanent. In 1930, the Dems picked up the House (after some special elections), and came close to winning the Senate. In 1932, the Dems picked up an additional 90 in the House (for an overall 143+ over two election cycles) and 13 in the Senate (21+ over two election cycles). It should be noted that for the next two elections, the Dems won additional seats in both houses, for a total of 164+ in the House and 36+ in the Senate (again out of 96 senate seats).

Posted by: The Political Hat` at September 16, 2012 03:29 PM (sZTYJ)

592

Ace...just to let you know Ras had Republicans at close to Plus 4 in Registrations in Aug....yet at best they are doing just Plus 1 Rep in samples....if anything they are acutally undersampling Republicans....which I think he is doing to be more on the safe side.  Ace never seems to have problem with the fact Gallup always oversamples Dems and CNN heck they oversampled Dems by 9.6 .

 

Why do so many on our side accept as Fact bogus Dem Polls with massive Oversamples yet they will QUESTION IMMEDIATELY if one Poll has a Plus One Republican?  Now you see why Romney has such a fight...Not only does he have to fight the Left and the MSM....he is up against Negative Conservatives that fall for the left narrative night and day.  Who would ever want to run for the GOP Pres??  It is not worth it.  We are so quick to tear our guy down while the left defends Obama to the death.  So many of us accept all the Left BS that they throw.  No wonder they laugh at us all the time.  We are never united and easily cut down...sad!!

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 03:30 PM (HDcKc)

593 576 gerg oh i have been praying for you non stop as i pray for everyone here except the old bitches and buzzion whom for some reason hate that i'm so young and educated and wealthy...i was raised in the dr spock manner...even though he was proved wrong just like al gore with global warming it's the best way to be raised because then you have at least two friends...in your parents...who you can manipulate into letting you do what ever the hell you want....because they don't want to damage your self esteem.....

Posted by: pray i go away (ozfic) at September 16, 2012 03:30 PM (Ho2rs)

594 Sven, the troll likes you, he really likes you. He wants to be your friend.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 03:30 PM (9TTOe)

595 Record is 63 yards...this is an attempt at 62. Let's go for it!!

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 03:30 PM (0VipX)

596 The intelligence level of that Redskins receiver? Yeah mine's much lower.

Posted by: Gerg at September 16, 2012 03:30 PM (/YJYi)

597 Oh and Cortland Finnegan is a thug that deserves to be suspended.

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 03:31 PM (GULKT)

598 OK so Imma put the bug in the ear of the mailing list to get thread for a moron meetup going at DC 2013, K? Also: Find a hotel that'll fly a pirate flag and haz bunkz and a bigass bar

Posted by: uterus cannon at September 16, 2012 03:31 PM (RLTt1)

599 Dude, we always find a way to lose. Have a little faith.

Posted by: Daniel Snyder at September 16, 2012 03:31 PM (ECYvo)

600 And I will love him and pet him and stroke him!

Posted by: Gergsucksbig (cocks, that is) at September 16, 2012 03:31 PM (aHR5E)

601 I have trouble making sense of partisan splits, enthusiasm levels and voter registration numbers. All this math is too hard.

Posted by: Gerg at September 16, 2012 03:32 PM (/YJYi)

602

579 Who is Barack OCarter's worse cabinet appointment, Hillary! or Chinless Holder?

 

Hard to say...they're both bad.

One is sabotaging us outside the country....while the other one is destroying the Constitution inside the country. 

 

Posted by: wheatie at September 16, 2012 03:32 PM (Z7b/q)

603 >>If Romney gets VA, then Allen gets the Senate seat.

Oddly, Allen has been running slightly ahead of Romney. Which means there are...Obama-Allen voters. Go figure.

Posted by: Not Dick Saslaw at September 16, 2012 03:33 PM (ECYvo)

604 350 ...demonstrators not only denounced the US and Israel, they also denounced President Obama by name, calling for his death. Hmm, they seem pretty upset by this Obama fellow. Guess we should arrest him and look for a charge...

Posted by: t-bird at September 16, 2012 03:33 PM (b1g/X)

605 Since last Sat Ace and others continue to focus on the Left's BS of Romney's Demise....how sad....he is so Eeyore...I am amazed...he lectured us a couple weeks ago about the undecideds and how they go for the Challenger and how they break and such....but since the DNC...Ace and Allah might as well give up!  They are both negative and it is sad.  Until NBC says Romney is up we will be on funeral watch here with Ace.  Where is CAC?  He is much more positive and much better with polls?    Ace is just too willing to accept bias polls....

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 03:33 PM (HDcKc)

606 Sanchez gets sacked on the final play. He sucks. I am outta here, Later kids.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 16, 2012 03:33 PM (9TTOe)

607 Trueman: You got rid of personal stuff in your house, right? Anything in your bathroom may be carrying it. Toothbrushes, combs, god knows what. I suggest taking ALL of the stuff in there to the dumpster. ( posting from inside EvE Online, hash may be different )

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 03:34 PM (0aV2C)

608 592 Gerg,

Horseshit.  The "big secret" is that Ryan wanted to punch your dope addict in the balls out of the gate.  What a fucking scandal!

Hey you know that CBS poll the one with the D+13 Skew?

Bark's up by 8 with a D+13 on a LV "model"....

You're done that was before how colossal a fucking self goal the 9/11 attacks was had sunk in, when Iran sues Obama with a law undermining the 1st amendment he's done.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/16/cbs-obama-leads-in-d-13-poll

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 03:34 PM (LRFds)

609 Until NBC says Romney is up we will be on funeral watch here with Ace. you were here for the Prosser thing, and the Walker recall, right? yes that is EXACTLY how it will play out.

Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at September 16, 2012 03:35 PM (J6kXj)

610 596 OSP,

Yeah I get that a lot...I forgot to wipe well enough at the last truckstop I was at so the shit smell probably acts as an aphrodesiac.

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 03:35 PM (LRFds)

611 "Oddly, Allen has been running slightly ahead of Romney. Which means there are...Obama-Allen voters. Go figure."

More likely they are Allen-Johnson voters.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 03:36 PM (dX4hn)

612 I went to DA conference last week. There was a class about ineffective defense attorneys. In a murder trial closing argument, one attorney kept teasing the jury with the two most important words in the trial. After repeatedly referring to the mysterious two words, he finally revealed them as the last two words before he sat down, "Go Broncos!"

Posted by: WalrusRex at September 16, 2012 03:37 PM (04fgZ)

613 Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 16, 2012 07:29 PM (Jk+oU).. ________________ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Cricket at September 16, 2012 03:37 PM (2ArJQ)

614 Holder has done immense damage to the country,before this week I would have said he was worse than Hillary but Hillary has pulled away!In all seriousness,it's all Obama's fault,his stogges do what he wants(or what Valerie Jarrett tells him he wants).

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 03:37 PM (6o4Fb)

615 Sven: He wants to suck start your new shotgun is all. Suicidal emo retard trolls are the most fun ...

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 03:38 PM (0aV2C)

616 Crap...look at drudge ASAP...Romney infighting big story to be leaked by politico.

Posted by: Lara at September 16, 2012 03:38 PM (TgSwQ)

617 Ok, the games are over, so Axelrod has released the trolls.  I'm out of here.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 03:40 PM (dX4hn)

618 Infighting: Ryan being told to wait a bit after the funerals before going for the throat.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 03:40 PM (0aV2C)

619 http://tinyurl.com/8tyu8ts

CNN protestors paid in Egypt to protest..

yeah cause that just spontaneously happens...

Gerg CNN and Fox are gonna blow Choom King up

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 03:40 PM (LRFds)

620 Crap, I was going to get my roof shingled, but they found an endangered amoeba in a puddle of water in my rain gutter.

Posted by: Marmo at September 16, 2012 03:40 PM (pcgW1)

621 "Crap...look at drudge ASAP...Romney infighting big story to be leaked by politico." As I said before, that crap never happens when you're winning. Romney's internals cannot be good for the backstabbing to start this early.

Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 16, 2012 03:41 PM (Jk+oU)

622 618..so what!  It is Politico....what would you expect....we all knew it would get worse and worse as the campaign went on....Infighting...heck that takes place right here on the Blog!!  Again, this is someone that is just unhappy leaking garbage....but this will be NONSTOP until the election.  No surprise!

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 03:41 PM (HDcKc)

623

S'cuse me but Ace posting on a Sunday afternoon!!??? Wow heh heh Ace I like your honesty brother. I need to follow your example and start getting shit done. down right faporlistic!!

Posted by: Sonny Spats at September 16, 2012 03:41 PM (Bm4aK)

624 Heh, I saw Greg there switching to a new hash, then poof.

I bet Lara is the next one.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 03:41 PM (dX4hn)

625 617 Kristo[hr,

I'm glad he showed up I was bored...you notice he doesn't gloat about the rasmussen poll this weekend?

It *knows* it's fucked.

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 03:42 PM (LRFds)

626 Also on drudge, Occupy is set to resume, wearing business attire this time. Totally grassroots and unorganized, of course.

Posted by: t-bird at September 16, 2012 03:42 PM (b1g/X)

627 623....Yeah Right....you keep taking that line....head over to Huff Post for that BS....lol....infighting takes place everywhere....look at Obama's State Department....nothing surprising....on Politico I will take with a grain of salt....a Left Wing Hack Site....LOL!

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 03:43 PM (HDcKc)

628 Oh gee look ... this Lara person has never posted on AoS before! What a shock.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 03:43 PM (0aV2C)

629 623 Gerg,

Say it again.  You do get that Romney happily leaking to a GOP base that wonders why he is not going nuts at Choom is fed red meat by "psycho Paul Ryan" stories yes?  MATH! is music for the masses boyo.

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 03:43 PM (LRFds)

630 Why yes, Pallandine, "allahu akbar" in that particular regions translates loosely to "we must get the ambassador to the hospital."

Thank you.

Carry on.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 16, 2012 03:43 PM (DQHjw)

631

Posted by: Lara at September 16, 2012 07:38 PM (TgSwQ)

 

Gee brand new hash never appeared before. 

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 03:44 PM (GULKT)

632 618 Crap...look at drudge ASAP...Romney infighting big story to be leaked by politico. Posted by: Lara at September 16, 2012 07:38 PM (TgSwQ) ----- Oh hell! This along with the headline story from Media Matters that Mitt is a meanie and MSNBC saying they like Obama slightly more than Romney will surely be devastating!!!

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 03:45 PM (0VipX)

633 tonight's game is Lions at 49ers I predict: snoozefest, 49ers win

Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2012 03:45 PM (yhYn1)

634 What's up?  The thread be dead?

Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 16, 2012 03:45 PM (wR+pz)

635 623 people have different opinions all the time. Say for instance like the diplomats in Libya and ummmmm chooms disagreeing about an imminent threat.

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 16, 2012 03:45 PM (AiZkN)

636 Kristophr at September 16, 2012 07:40 PM (0aV2C)

I've been wanting to move to Wyoming for years.  Have acquaintances in several places - Buffalo, Sheridan - but haven't been able to sell my home here in Mexifornia. Where are you?  (Love the gun laws!)

Posted by: Grandma Mimi at September 16, 2012 03:45 PM (irv8n)

637

Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 16, 2012 07:29 PM (Jk+oU)

 

If you think about all the help President Black Dy-no-mite has been getting from the networks, newspapaers, blogs, Hollywood, flat out lying and smearing Romney. This sturttering cluskerfuck of a miserable failure should be about 10 points plus ahead by now but he's isn't.

Posted by: The Empty Chair at September 16, 2012 03:46 PM (qUlBE)

638 Panthers kicked ass.  Thursday night Giants come to town.

Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 16, 2012 03:46 PM (wR+pz)

639 Politico is not a big site....LOL!!  It is a Dem Run Small Outfit...that is all..and so bias it is worth dirt!  I am sure it will be ANONYMOUS SOURCES!!  Just like Politico started the story about Romney not being able to win....oh yeah Politico is so Legitimate!

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 03:46 PM (HDcKc)

640 Obama's campaign has been run brilliantly. They haven't had to walk back any statements and none of their ads have been proven to be outright lies.

Posted by: Gerg at September 16, 2012 03:46 PM (/YJYi)

641 Guys, how do you search the site for a certain hash?

Posted by: Steck at September 16, 2012 03:47 PM (RL7U1)

642 Also on drudge, Occupy is set to resume, wearing business attire this time. Totally grassroots and unorganized, of course.

Posted by: t-bird at September 16, 2012 07:42 PM (b1g/X)

 

 

The smell will give them away.

Posted by: The Empty Chair at September 16, 2012 03:47 PM (qUlBE)

643 http://t.co/bEUm46Wk  Here's the Ambassador being drug out of the building by unorganized attackers who moonlight as film critics helping him to Hospital Gerg old boy....

talk about disorganized infighting....

I was hoping you could help the HQ out with one thing.

Who gave Choom the black eye the other night Hillary! or Mooch?

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 03:48 PM (LRFds)

644 Guess Romney was doing too well, maybe this is the answer to the question a lot of people have been asking here as of late: "SOURCES: POLITICO set to reveal details of Romney campaign infighting; Plans to publish portions of speech chief Romney strategist Stevens ordered and scrapped, just days before convention... Developing late..." via drudge... He should listen to those he's had on board for a long long time, ann, his sons and of course, ryan... the ones causing the trouble...should be tossed out on their ear..

Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 03:48 PM (oZfic)

645 623 Only when the dems infight ... people die. Well I guess who could be incompetence as well.

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 16, 2012 03:48 PM (AiZkN)

646 Sorry, can't tell you. I have a policy of never revealing specifics about myself under this pseudonym. I try to keep my political and silly internet stuff very seperate from my working life.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 03:48 PM (0aV2C)

647

Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 07:48 PM (oZfic)

 

And just further evidence that you are nothing but a worthless troll whore.

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 03:49 PM (GULKT)

648 Our reporters are the highest caliber. None of them have ever been let go for making jokes about magic underwear or making racial statements.

Posted by: POLITICO at September 16, 2012 03:49 PM (/YJYi)

649 Mmmmmmmm, hash.

Posted by: Barack OCarter at September 16, 2012 03:49 PM (+5083)

650 Posted by: Steck at September 16, 2012 07:47 PM (RL7U1) Go to Google and enter the following (use the quotes): "search term" site:minx.cc

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at September 16, 2012 03:50 PM (RdKJU)

651 Obama chilled. People got killed. Bitches.

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 16, 2012 03:50 PM (AiZkN)

652 Google minx.cc and the hash.

Posted by: Adam at September 16, 2012 03:50 PM (/YJYi)

653 And Drudge does not have this as a big story....he is leading with Libyan Officials advised US 3 days in advance of possible attacks!! Politico is given info by NBC/OBAMA then plays it and see what other liberal outfits will play...Face it they are doubling down on their Narrative that Mitt cannot win....this is about US.....trying to suppress the Conservatives....LOL!  I wish conservatives would do the same back to Liberals it would be so refreshing!

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 03:51 PM (HDcKc)

654 643 Guys, how do you search the site for a certain hash? Posted by: Steck at September 16, 2012 07:47 PM (RL7U1) ----- Probably an easier way but i just put the Hash along with 'ace' in a google search and it will show the comments related to that hash.

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 03:51 PM (0VipX)

655

how do you search the site for a certain hash?

 

Don't bother.   If you left some hash out, it's been smoked already.

Posted by: garrett at September 16, 2012 03:51 PM (VsyLa)

656 What are you talking about? I work hard for r & r in mi. Because this is my first post, I'm suspect? I've read here for 4 years. This leak of a speech has me worried. I'm sorry coming here and saying so is suspect. I have a feeling there's more to this story than the average in fighting .

Posted by: Lara at September 16, 2012 03:52 PM (TgSwQ)

657 Yo Already read the ont and..... Sniff sniff Pee?

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 16, 2012 03:52 PM (+Aarq)

658 Don't bother. If you left some hash out, it's been smoked already.

Posted by: garrett at September 16, 2012 07:51 PM (VsyLa

 

And it was probably "intercepted!" by president choom

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 03:52 PM (GULKT)

659 I won't believe one word of that Politico story, and I'll live longer because of that belief.

Posted by: Randy at September 16, 2012 03:52 PM (EuW9O)

660 Posted by: plonking for plonk at September 16, 2012 07:48 PM (oZfic)

Fixed.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 16, 2012 03:52 PM (p9Pmk)

661 Awesome, thanks RHH.

Posted by: Steck at September 16, 2012 03:52 PM (RL7U1)

662 I'm sure in typical Politico fashion that the story will be based on unnamed sources. Oh, evening all.

Posted by: Countrysquire at September 16, 2012 03:53 PM (xNksW)

663 Lots of content tonight, I see...

Posted by: RE at September 16, 2012 03:53 PM (QTVh2)

664 LOL! I wish conservatives would do the same back to Liberals it would be so refreshing! ------- Why? Their tears are so much more refreshing when they have their hopes so high and are SURE they are going to win.

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 03:54 PM (0VipX)

665 Obama chilled. People got killed.

Posted by: ChoomOn.org at September 16, 2012 03:54 PM (AiZkN)

666 The rumors have been around for a coupole of weeks, that some in the romney campaign are bullies. I sense a nicole wallace, steve schmidt kind of thing.

Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 03:54 PM (oZfic)

667 If Ace gave up fapping, why is Sunday content free?

Posted by: garrett at September 16, 2012 03:54 PM (VsyLa)

668 Sunday Night Football fun reading: goo.gl/h2XPe "Political donations by NFL team for the 2011-2012 election cycle"

Posted by: RE at September 16, 2012 03:55 PM (QTVh2)

669 665 Lots of content tonight, I see...

Posted by:  at September 16, 2012 07:53 PM (QTVh2)


There is football on, so  stop whining.

Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 16, 2012 03:55 PM (wR+pz)

670 Romney performed his speech remarkably well for a guy who only had a few days to prep for it.

Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 03:56 PM (/D7/G)

671 Can we impeach Obama now?  He hasn't lived up to his oath of office, re: and will to the best of my Ability,...

President Mom Jeans, you have to show up to get course credit.

Posted by: Fritz at September 16, 2012 03:56 PM (uRFJj)

672 If Ace gave up fapping, why is Sunday content free? The wheelbarrow he now needs for his balls doesn't fit under the desk.

Posted by: t-bird at September 16, 2012 03:58 PM (b1g/X)

673 I live in Fort Pierce, Florida, one of the biggest swing regions in the nation. Obama was here last weekend. I sat around and watched football yesterday and today and kept a tally of the ads I saw: Obama--11--mostly the Clinton ad, three times a Mediscare ad. Allen West--4 Allen West Opponent--2 (he's a 29 year old kid whose billionaire daddy is trying to buy him a seat in Congress) SEIU--1--ad knocking Romney for being a millionaire, wanting to cut his own taxes, wanting to steal old peoples' medicine Romney--1--at 11:30 last night, an ad on Obama not standing up to China. Question: What is Romney spending all his money on? I'm not the only person in a swing state seeing a virtual blackout on the air. Does anybody have an explanation that's not the same "wait until XYZ" we've heard about five times now?

Posted by: Harold at September 16, 2012 03:58 PM (fQLts)

674 Lara...give it a rest....who cares what was in a speech allegedly....Mitt wrote his own speech by the way....so who was this speech for?  I do not buy the narrative you are scared...sorry...with all that happened in this campaign and magically you appear here.....sorry you seem very fishy and phony!

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 03:58 PM (HDcKc)

675 658 What are you talking about? I work hard for r & r in mi. Because this is my first post, I'm suspect? I've read here for 4 years. This leak of a speech has me worried. I'm sorry coming here and saying so is suspect. I have a feeling there's more to this story than the average in fighting . Posted by: Lara at September 16, 2012 07:52 PM (TgSwQ) Well then regarding a Romney mailing asking for contributions what is the smallest written amount on the list?

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 03:59 PM (0VipX)

676 Hey when you cook chicken in italian gravy for 3 hours its better than southern fried chicken just sayin.....

Posted by: Sonny Spats at September 16, 2012 04:01 PM (Bm4aK)

677 No problem Marmo, wisdom is knowing  I don't know everything and willing to ask.  Was merely curious.

Truman North, a MRSA carrier is that like Typhoid Mary? 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 04:01 PM (gPyYF)

678 675, I live in Orlando area and I have seen alot more Romney Ads....but again it could be regional I am not sure....I have seen several lately...but that is here in Orlando area....I know you are on Fort Pierce which is not too far from West Palm so I am not sure Mitt considers that area a big gain area....WP/FLL/MIA...not sure...just saying.  I have had several Mitt ads and Super Pac ads in my area in Orlando.

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 04:02 PM (HDcKc)

679 mnh...talk baseball to me Allana Rizzo.  You dirty, dirty girl.

Posted by: garrett at September 16, 2012 04:02 PM (VsyLa)

680 I made the mistake of eating McDogballs because my kids wanted to stop there. I feel like I am going to seize up.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 16, 2012 04:03 PM (jucos)

681 Lara, your concern as a long time reader of the site has been noted. Now kindly go fuck yourself.

Posted by: Countrysquire at September 16, 2012 04:04 PM (xNksW)

682

>> I feel like I am going to seize up.

 

McToilets will do that to a man.

Posted by: garrett at September 16, 2012 04:04 PM (VsyLa)

683 Thanks for the welcome. Give what a rest? I made one post after reading here for 4 years, and it's too much to post a concern? After putting in some time here in mich. recently, I thought I might actually post something, because I thought I may actually hear from others and share some of my thoughts going forward. Obviously that's not possible here.

Posted by: Lara at September 16, 2012 04:05 PM (TgSwQ)

684 RWC...something stinks with this Lara....why would part of a speech released to Politico which is one of the most left wing websites have a true Romney supporter scared?  The Annoymous Source will be unidentified and in the dark but they have portions or parts of a THROWN AWAY SPEECH?  Not that alone is suspect.

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 04:05 PM (HDcKc)

685 bashing the replacements the whole game.

Someone should poll DC and St. Louis re. the suck job they did there.  If the skins had made it to an OT game there'd have been even bigger riots on field.

Posted by: DaveA at September 16, 2012 04:05 PM (nKOL2)

686 The rumors have been around for a coupole of weeks Only Romney's cousin's barber's priest's second cousin on his mother's side knows for sure.

Posted by: toby928© at September 16, 2012 04:05 PM (QupBk)

687

Posted by: Lara at September 16, 2012 08:05 PM (TgSwQ)

 

You're pushing the exact same story a pathetic troll keeps attempting to spam and you are shocked at the reception you receive?  Your concern is noted.

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 04:06 PM (GULKT)

688

Look, I don't know who this Lara is, but she might have some nice tatas.

... and a webcam.

So let's not get too hasty in running her off.

Now, Lara, honey.  Would you like to show us your boobs? 

 

Posted by: garrett at September 16, 2012 04:06 PM (VsyLa)

689 Obviously that's not possible here. Well, bye.

Posted by: curly bill at September 16, 2012 04:07 PM (QupBk)

690 521:

"What we should be considering, is...that of the people who still have land lines...which ones are the ones who are:
A) Answering their land lines?
B) Not afraid to tell the truth about who they're voting for?

I would think that the answer to those two questions, would be:
Dem-voters who are eager to say that they're voting for Barky."

Loud and proud eh? I'll buy that.

Posted by: YouDaManTiger at September 16, 2012 04:07 PM (tDieS)

691 bashing the replacements the whole game. Someone should poll DC and St. Louis re. the suck job they did there. If the skins had made it to an OT game there'd have been even bigger riots on field. Posted by: DaveA at September 16, 2012 08:05 PM (nKOL2) -------------------------------------------------- I think the Rams got the short end of the stick on the shitty call front. They got ripped out of a TD. I say that as a Redskin fan.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 16, 2012 04:07 PM (jucos)

692 Sec of Defense Leon Panetta worries the tension between Japan and the PRC could spiral out of control over an uninhabited chain of islands.

http://tinyurl.com/8e2oddr

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 04:08 PM (gPyYF)

693

Land line, here. 

Sometimes they catch you on the call waiting.  Bastards.

Posted by: garrett at September 16, 2012 04:08 PM (VsyLa)

694 Been reading here for four years, but only tonight you realize what is accepted here? Really?

Posted by: Countrysquire at September 16, 2012 04:09 PM (xNksW)

695 Amazing ... someone in the Choom administration is actually watching what is going on the world? Panetta will need to fired for wasting time he could be spending helping to raise funds.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 04:10 PM (0aV2C)

696 RGIII being interviewed on local cable. Man is he ever sharp. Real stand up guy.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 16, 2012 04:10 PM (jucos)

697 Lara writes exactly like ozfic, but ozfic is here today. Personally, I'm shocked, SHOCKED! that a Romney speech was edited. Imagine if we got to see the parts edited out of Obama's DNC masterpiece: "Look, Ma, no guards!"

Posted by: t-bird at September 16, 2012 04:10 PM (b1g/X)

698 You're pushing the exact same story a pathetic troll keeps attempting to spam and you are shocked at the reception you receive? Your concern is noted. Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 08:06 PM (GULKT) Geez I have a lot of respect for matt drudge...stop saying mean stuff about him

Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 04:11 PM (oZfic)

699 Kristophr at September 16, 2012 07:48 PM (0aV2C)

Sorry.  I have family in Fort Collins and they want me to move there, but I don't care for the tax structure or other leanings in Colorado.  I vastly prefer Wyoming to any other state in the union.

Posted by: Grandma Mimi at September 16, 2012 04:12 PM (irv8n)

700 I lurked by an Obama get out the vote event today in a liberal upper middle class neighborhood outside of Pittsburgh today. There was one suburb with obama bumper sticker and maybe two other attendees. It gave me reason to think the lib turnout will be low. Just saying'

Posted by: Sophistahick at September 16, 2012 04:12 PM (CofEF)

701 Kristophr, well I bet Panetta and Petraeus are paying attention.  But with the likes of Samantha Powers and Valerie Jarret deciding what information gets to Obama, their concerns are probably taken out every night with the trash.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 04:12 PM (gPyYF)

702 I look and dress like Buffalo Bill.

No... the one from Silence of the Lambs.

Posted by: oZfic at September 16, 2012 04:13 PM (6JMZR)

703 Heck go over to Townhall Kevin Glass is talking about a Hill story several hours ago about Republican Insiders are unhappy with Mitt....you think some of these unhappy campers might have talked to the Politico as well???  There is someone or some people with a major grudge against Mitt or someone on his staff.  It is odd the Hill would have story (the Hill is left leaning) and then a day later the Politico sends out feelers about Repu Infighting and part of a speech appear?? Something stinks in Suburbia!!  This is the narrative the Politico has had for a week and I think they are hoping to take some attention away from Obama and Middle East disaster...we all know MSNBC will run with whatever from here to Jupiter.

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 04:14 PM (HDcKc)

704 you concern troll hunters need a life

Posted by: soothsayer at September 16, 2012 04:14 PM (KeJAW)

705 Oh what the hell, I have nothing better to do for a few minutes, so I'll fisk.

"What are you talking about? I work hard for r & r in mi."

Implying that you are involved in the campaign in MI?  If so, then you have insight into the professionalism the organization uses.  Yet your first post ever is to express concern...

"Because this is my first post, I'm suspect? I've read here for 4 years."

If you have read here for 4 days, then you are quite aware of our opinion of new people showing up to express concern.  If you have read for 4 years, then you surely recall Concerned Christian Conservative, and many others.  yet you are surprised that you aren't given credence...

"This leak of a speech has me worried."

You said you work hard for R&R in MI.  I don't work for R&R at all, yet I was fully aware that he personally wrote the speech over a period of 6 weeks in preparation for the convention, and that he went through numerous drafts.  But since the process somehow escaped you, despite your involvement with R&R you are worried.  After all, it it completely plausible that someone from inside a very well run organization is going to go to a media source who just last week published headlines that stated that Romney's legitimate response to the Cairo tweet was enormous news, yet has yet to mention that Libyan officials contradict the official White House position...

"I'm sorry coming here and saying so is suspect."

No it isn't suspect, it is proven.  You are a liar.  At least one of the statement above is a lie.  The only question is which...

"I have a feeling there's more to this story than the average in fighting"

On this we do agree.  And the rest of the story is that it is a dirty trick being run by the Obama campaign with the full cooperation of their house propaganda arm.  I am also convinced that you are a paid operative who receives compensation from OFA to go to opposition web sites and post "concern" regarding leaked stories.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 04:15 PM (dX4hn)

706 upper middle class neighborhood outside of Pittsburgh today. There was one suburb with obama bumper sticker and maybe two other attendees.

Western Pennsylvania has become a lot more conservative over the last couple decades.  The problem is Philadelphia.

Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 04:15 PM (/D7/G)

707 Suburb=Suburu

Posted by: Sophists hick at September 16, 2012 04:16 PM (CofEF)

708 Politico leaks to Drudge to drive traffic to its site...plain and simple...they drive traffic this drives revenue for the money losing Politico....it is all a cycle....Politico wants the traffic off Drudge....Drudge DWARFS the Politico in hits....what better way to spread to concerned Conservatives and add anxiety!

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 04:17 PM (HDcKc)

709 Lara oh crap! The Washington Post said Obama squandered peace in Afg due to infighting. See link. PEACE!

Posted by: TD at September 16, 2012 04:18 PM (+uFux)

710 Great article at Breitbart about the upcoming Kat Bigelow film about killing Bin Laden. To wit, if some unknown cheezoid footage turned the Muslim world upside down, what would a slick Hollywood film depicting the death of its hero do. "Zero Dark 30" must be banned!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 16, 2012 04:18 PM (+tqYo)

711 Wow, this woman on this Toyota commercial is named Ja Ne't. WTF is wrong with people?

Posted by: Countrysquire at September 16, 2012 04:20 PM (xNksW)

712

Hey when you cook chicken in italian gravy for 3 hours its better than southern fried chicken just sayin.....

 

Blasphemer! I'm calling the UN   immediately!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 16, 2012 04:21 PM (d0Tfm)

713 Dan Dierdorf is a douche. Since when has that been in dispute? Fucker was doucherocket back in the '80's

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at September 16, 2012 04:21 PM (ixXb5)

714 Dave in Fla - thank you for that. I just really appreciate you taking the time to post all of that. whew! now I'll go back to worrying about Tom Servo and Cro getting "invited" to a squad car at midnight one of these days . . .

Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at September 16, 2012 04:21 PM (J6kXj)

715 Man, these reporters and pundits are just getting to be too much. Every time I turn around, one of them wants to SUCK MY DICK. Can't I get some rest without some reporter wanting to SUCK MY DICK? Hell, I can't even eat a waffle without some retard pundit wanting to SUCK MY DICK.

Posted by: Barky McDicksucked at September 16, 2012 04:21 PM (IoNBC)

716 gulagbound.com/33819/obama-to-embassies-youre-on-your-own/comment-page-1/#comment-229330

This is a link to Obama's "You're on your own" policy for our embassies.  If true, infuriating.

Posted by: rabidfox at September 16, 2012 04:21 PM (asA0u)

717 I am so concerned.  You should be concerned too.  Romney just isn't getting the kind of poll numbers that he needs to get to avoid being buried in a landslide.  I am concerned that is campaign is floundering.  Ohhhh, woe is me.

All you racists should be concerned too. 

Oh, and you are meanies too.

:p

Posted by: Concerned conservative citizen at September 16, 2012 04:22 PM (he2LC)

718 Countrysquire I was at Universal on "disaster!" which is like a show/ride? and they use people from the crowd - one of the guys was named "Craven" I kid you not. he was really proud of it too. thinks it's a bitchin name! Craven. he's . . . craven

Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at September 16, 2012 04:22 PM (J6kXj)

719 In my 719 comment above, put in the usual http  and // in front of it.

Posted by: rabidfox at September 16, 2012 04:22 PM (asA0u)

720 BlackOrchid, was his last name Fool?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 04:24 PM (gPyYF)

721 Grandma Mimi:

No problem.

Yea, if you are going to move to the Fort Collins area, you might as well move to Cheyenne or Laramie.

No income tax and almost comically low property taxes. Same weather. No hippies running things.

If you need to buy stuff not available in either, you can always do a day trip south.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 04:24 PM (0aV2C)

722 Posted by: Barky McDicksucked at September 16, 2012 08:21 PM (IoNBC) I don't mean to intrude, I just want to be a part of your life. Really.

Posted by: Chrissy Mathews at September 16, 2012 04:24 PM (IoNBC)

723 721 Was his last name Moorehead?

Posted by: Countrysquire at September 16, 2012 04:24 PM (xNksW)

724

Anyone who belives anything put out by Politico is either gullible, liberal, or ignorant.

 

BIRM

Posted by: Burn the Witch at September 16, 2012 04:24 PM (eoedh)

725 My beloved chargers won

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 04:25 PM (LRFds)

726 PLUG THE GOD DAMN HOLE

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 16, 2012 04:25 PM (xXhWA)

727 I'd hit Faith Hill so hard the wishbone offense would forever be known as the Faith Formation.

Posted by: Fritz at September 16, 2012 04:25 PM (uRFJj)

728 713 Great article at Breitbart about the upcoming Kat Bigelow film about killing Bin Laden. My God, where...oh, where is the outrage?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at September 16, 2012 04:26 PM (ixXb5)

729 So Drudge says Politico is coming out with a hit piece on Romney and how much infighting there is in their campaign... swell...

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 16, 2012 04:26 PM (W2Z3C)

730

I'd hit Faith Hill so hard the wishbone offense would forever be known as the Faith Formation.

 

I'd hit her so hard   her mom would know it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 16, 2012 04:28 PM (d0Tfm)

731 Obama in WI on Friday. I knew he couldn't stay away for long. In WI. Could you imagine any Dem saying WI would be in play a year ago that Obama needs to go there? They will both be in FL near the end of the week for two days each.

Posted by: MrX at September 16, 2012 04:28 PM (ZsAO3)

732 Sorry, Obama is in WI on Saturday, not Friday.

Posted by: MrX at September 16, 2012 04:29 PM (ZsAO3)

733 Gallup has Obama down to 48/45 over Mitt today...that is down from 52 percent back on Tuesday....From a 9 point lead(52/43) to a three point lead...and that is with Registered Voters!  It will be interesting to see Gallup when they switch to LV and that will affect Approval as well which is still just Adults! But Obama's DNC bounce is just about gone...Gallup uses 7 day average...another two days and the DNC convention will be out of Obama's Numbers!

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 04:29 PM (HDcKc)

734 Anna. I think China is crying "squirrel" either to hide bad economic news and/or corruption scandals. She doesn't have the stone to throw down with the japs yet, her naval building program is just getting started. She also has years of training with those new toys to consider.

Posted by: Jean at September 16, 2012 04:30 PM (duqON)

735 Faith Hill.... Those legs...... brb.

Posted by: Adam at September 16, 2012 04:30 PM (/YJYi)

736 733 I'd hit Faith Hill so hard the wishbone offense would forever be known as the Faith Formation. I'd hit her so hard her mom would know it. Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 16, 2012 08:28 PM (d0Tfm) I'd hit her so hard, whoever pulled me off of her would be king of England. Heh, I learned that line here!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 16, 2012 04:30 PM (+tqYo)

737 I am deeply concerned that there is a lack of concern concerning the genuine (simulated) concern of others. I must now ululate and burn your embassy.

Posted by: Achmed bin Al Fazul at September 16, 2012 04:31 PM (z1Zdt)

738 Obama going to WI is final admission that it is in play.  He has been trying to pretend that it is in the bag.  He needs OH and WI, and without them both he is so close to mathematically eliminated that it is not worth discussing.

But the election is over, Pelosi told us that.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 04:32 PM (dX4hn)

739 732...it is a story about Infighting...but the Hill had something similar on Friday about Republicans unhappy with Romney and fighting....the Hill is liberal as well...I imagine there will be similarities...since they are about a day apart!  This is just going to be Anonymous Sources or someone saying they heard this or that and then they will use portions of a Speech Mitt did not use as evidence.  Give me a break!

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 04:32 PM (HDcKc)

740 737 Posted by: Jean at September 16, 2012 08:30 PM (duqON) The only thing the Chinese have going for them is numbers. They're pretty good at copying and reverse engineering but their quality is for shit. Lots of corruption at every level. You rarely hear about it but it does get out.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 16, 2012 04:32 PM (+tqYo)

741 If you burn enough embassies, Achmed, Obama will send you a free $1.5B aid package, and bow to you as well.


Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 04:33 PM (0aV2C)

742 Turn off the noise and chill the champagne. Posted by: runninrebel at September 16, 2012 08:30 PM (N/1Dm) ================================= Noise is right. Very well said. Mittens, as shitty a candidate as he is, is going to wipe the floor with JEF.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 16, 2012 04:33 PM (jucos)

743 I wish I could do the Hadji the Muslim Comic sock.  This week is just ripe for it.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 04:35 PM (dX4hn)

744 Jean, China maybe.  But this saber-rattling has been going on for years.  Vietnam spent $8 billion ordering Su-27s and diesel/electric subs from Russia.  The Philippines has re-established their air force and is pestering Washington hard for more equipment.  Japan has their F-15s and home built F-16 variant, but are still waiting on the F-35.  Taiwan needs to replace 120 jets and Obama cancelled selling them 66 new F-16s due to objections from the PRC, luckily the Bush administration approved the sale of new diesel/electric subs to Taiwan to replace their two vintage Super Guppy subs.

China might think its a chessmaster, but things can go squirrely destroying carefully laid plans.  Ask the Austrians and Germans about WWI.  Or Obama and the Arab Spring.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 04:35 PM (gPyYF)

745 I heard that there was some infighting at the department of state as well. Something about not wanting to be made into human sacrifices.

I should go to Democratic Underground and ask them about it repeatedly, under many aliases and through many proxy servers.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 04:35 PM (0aV2C)

746 From CNN: Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel says he is asking city lawyers to file an injunction to immediately end the teachers strike. His announcement came shortly after a Chicago Teachers Union committee opted not to end the week-old teachers strike, despite a tentative deal being reached days earlier. The mayor contended in his statement that the strike is illegal because "it is over issues that are deemed by state law to be non-strikable, and it endangers the health and safety of our children."

Posted by: Countrysquire at September 16, 2012 04:36 PM (xNksW)

747 746 Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 16, 2012 08:33 PM (jucos) I hope he's a better president than candidate. Still, it's the MFM that attempts to make him look bad. I thought his impromptu remarks after "you didn't build that" were great and his comments last week were spot-on and very presidential. Keep it up. And jus release the Newt/Sununu cerberus early and often.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 16, 2012 04:36 PM (+tqYo)

748 Taiwan is better off buying German Diesel electrics anyway.

And I'll bet the Russians will gladly sell them non-monkey model fighters.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 04:37 PM (0aV2C)

749 "Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel says he is asking city lawyers to file an injunction to immediately end the teachers strike"

*munches popcorn*

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 04:37 PM (dX4hn)

750 If the PRC does fall apart and turns into the 1920s warlords scenario, just ponder warlords with nukes.  Good chucks of mainland China would be glowing in short order.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 04:37 PM (CrfL3)

751 That would be a right perfect clusterfuck.

A lot of those nukes would be up for bid.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 04:38 PM (0aV2C)

752 Stop worrying about the polls the real conservative fight is going on with Leavitt and friends. Obama is done, when does his library fund open up.

Posted by: Jean at September 16, 2012 04:40 PM (liPvR)

753 "Stop worrying about the polls the real conservative fight is going on with Leavitt and friends. Obama is done, when does his library fund open up."

Just out of curiosity, Where would they site it?

Posted by: rabidfox at September 16, 2012 04:45 PM (asA0u)

754

All the concerned posters should get together and decide which amongst them is the most concerned, and just let that most concerned poster post all the concerns for everyone's benefit.

 

Otherwise I'm going to get concerned about possible infighting among the concerned.

Posted by: 99% Self-Banned but had to vent at September 16, 2012 04:46 PM (1Y+hH)

755 Site it? Main branch in Chicago, with branches in Hawaii, Rio, Barcelona, and Aspen, of course...

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 16, 2012 04:46 PM (a4CUi)

756 757, Jakarta

Posted by: Jean at September 16, 2012 04:46 PM (u5ozF)

757 757 Turtle Bay.

Posted by: Al at September 16, 2012 04:48 PM (MzQOZ)

758 It's the Wyoming thread! I moved here 6 months ago from Georgia, I LOVE it here. Everyone says that's because I have not spent a winter here yet. I'm not a neophyte: I grew up in the Lake Tahoe area and went 2 years of college in Eastern Idaho, so I have an idea of what's coming. It did take a while to adjust to 7200ft. As far as politics, I think the best thing I can do is volunteer in Northern Colorado since it's close by.

Posted by: small town girl at September 16, 2012 04:48 PM (dramD)

759 New Thread

Posted by: rabidfox at September 16, 2012 04:49 PM (asA0u)

760 Buy a snowmobile and embrace Wyberia.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 04:49 PM (0aV2C)

761 The politico article is up on Drudge and it's as big a piece of shit as you would expect. Fuck politico..

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 16, 2012 04:50 PM (W2Z3C)

762 Wow the Obot on my FB is now posting about going to Canada since the US is a failing Democracy.  I am resisting suggesting to them to move there before November.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 04:50 PM (CrfL3)

763 Anna: Tell him all about the Conservative Party's victories in Canada.

That will cheer him up. Remind him to cut down, not across.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 04:52 PM (0aV2C)

764 767 The politico article is up on Drudge and it's as big a piece of shit as you would expect. Fuck politico..

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 16, 2012 08:50 PM (W2Z3C)

 

Noted for the stupid trolls that swear they aren't trolls on the proper way to deal with this sort of article.

Posted by: buzzion at September 16, 2012 04:52 PM (GULKT)

765 768 Wow the Obot on my FB is now posting about going to Canada since the US is a failing Democracy. I am resisting suggesting to them to move there before November.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 08:50 PM (CrfL3)


They're all jabba-jabba-jabba and no chop-chop...real original, going up to Canada to spite the big bad US, by the way.

Posted by: model_1066 at September 16, 2012 04:55 PM (yYKoR)

766

Rahm Emmanuel, union buster? Great way to piss off the unions, they must be worried what this does for them with non union voters. I don't  think that Rahm does anything without polling it first.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at September 16, 2012 04:55 PM (vpenv)

767 I am resisting suggesting to them to move there before November.Posted by:Anna Puma (+SmuD)
Anna: Tell him all about the Conservative Party's victories in Canada.That will cheer him up. Remind him to cut down, not across.Posted by: Kristophr


Tell them to move to France. France went full-on socialist this election, and it's going to turn into a spectacular fustercluck with the Euro crashing down around them.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 16, 2012 04:56 PM (3CiXB)

768 Relax. Rass polls are closest right now to what the actual turnout splits will be. OH, FL, VA, NC and even NV are traditionally R states, and only when D in 2008 due to a huge financial crisis peaking right during the last 6-8 weeks of the election. Anyone thinking at the end of the day these any go D given the incumbent under 48% continually in all of them, as well as their past history, should have their pundit license revoked. These are all likely R barring (with the possible exception of NV) a major development. This election is coming down to Romney 266 with Obama 237 (conceding MI to Obama, which is a real question), and the final states being NV, IA, WI, NH, and CO. Romnye wins ANY of those and its over. If Romney get MI, he likely gets the rest and sweeps the table, and this is a 314-221 election. Romney is coming in somewhere between 271-314 EVs. This one is won.

Posted by: Interested Party at September 16, 2012 04:57 PM (RE+1w)

769 Rahm Emmanuel, union buster? Great way topissoff the unions --- Yeah, but you know when the time comes, they'll be good little drones and pull the "D" lever, no matter what.

Posted by: Gergsucksbig (cocks, that is) at September 16, 2012 04:59 PM (aHR5E)

770 Oy. Again with the sock!

Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 16, 2012 05:00 PM (aHR5E)

771 Infighting in the Romney campaign? If true, Mitt's used to being a fairly firm boss, and he should tamp it down. These guys have to chill--this election is theirs barring a major event, and as we have just seen with Libya, all major events can only make O go down, as will the debates despite massing MSM spin. Do these MSM guys realize what is going to happen to them if they put all their eggs in O's basket and he loses?

Posted by: Interested Party at September 16, 2012 05:01 PM (RE+1w)

772 How about a two-for win, Quebec.  The French speakers still want to leave Canada.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 05:01 PM (CrfL3)

773 We need a sidebar post on exactly what we should be doing at this point, besides letting the MSM jerk us around by the balls. 1. Are you getting the right twitter feeds so you're on message 2. Have you called your precinct 'Pubs to see what help is needed, hell do you have precinct leadership. Step up, if not 3. If you funemployed, volunteer - why not, call it networking if you have to justify it to your spouse 4. Make a list of ten likely R&R voters a week, with phone numbers - this your personal call list for the first week of November. I have capped mine at 120 names. Try and avoid those who are very likely to vote. 5. Refer people who are pissed off here, PJ Media, or BigGovernment, get them off of the MSM nipple. 6. If your a lawyer make sure you know where to be during the election process (and re read your local election lawyer crap, shit changes), buy guns, and send money 7. Send money, ok, where? Maybe this site should have a daily hot spot for loose change ... 8. Fuck the national polls, what does your precinct look like. Worry about moving a hundred voters in your neighborhood, let Darth Priebus worry about moving Michigan 9. Signs put them up, if you have a bunch of vacant, foreclosed houses around you - decorate them with Obama signs ( especially in NV ). 10. Go viral, did everyone see the sticker I saw at TacoBell that I posted .... 11. You are registered, right? Everyone in your family is as well, and recently deceased for whom you have id or utility bills, right 12. Make your pudding call, packaged or home made. After Scott Brown's big night, I recommend going homemade and warm. Check your recipes.

Posted by: Jean at September 16, 2012 05:11 PM (g2ldK)

774 Wyberia lol. No snowmobile but I'm ready!

Posted by: small town girl at September 16, 2012 05:14 PM (TKpwb)

775 Canada closes Iranian embassy and kicks out diplomats http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19522744

Posted by: tami at September 16, 2012 05:23 PM (gQ7HI)

776 Just remember, Gallup had Obama winning by 11 points in 2008:
http://tinyurl.com/36xpkxb

The goal with the MSM is to get the meme that this election is over.  That dries up volunteers, donations, and get out the vote efforts.

This thing is far from over.

Posted by: Jeepers at September 16, 2012 05:29 PM (XDRsa)

777 Haven't read the politico story, don't like them, won't go there. That being said, I posted what drudge had up cause I think it's funny. If there is no in fighting then the other side will think there is and act accordingly, maybe make a boo boo. If there is infighting, so what, romney doesn't tolerate fools easily, it was probably over waaay before politico heard about it. Loyalty is an interesting thing. In the corporate world it is one of the most important aspects of daily doings.

Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 05:35 PM (oZfic)

778 Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 09:35 PM (oZfic) What are you wearing?

Posted by: Chrissy Mathews at September 16, 2012 05:38 PM (IoNBC)

779 Kristophr at September 16, 2012 08:24 PM (0aV2C)

I was thinking of Cheyenne, but not Laramie.  Will have to check it out. Thanks.
Once again, I really like the gun laws!

Posted by: Grandma Mimi at September 16, 2012 05:46 PM (irv8n)

780 before someone changes the wiki page: "Stevens worked for Bob Dole's 1996 presidential campaign and was part of George W. Bush's media team in 2000 and 2004. His book The Big Enchilada is a chronicle of Bush's 2000 campaign. He and Russell Schriefer had worked for John McCain's campaign in the 2008 election, but changed their allegiance to Mitt Romney in July 2007." http://tinyurl.com/8ccryub

Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 05:52 PM (oZfic)

781 Posted by: Chrissy Mathews at September 16, 2012 09:38 PM (IoNBC) I'm sure my outfit is not as nice as the dress you're wearing.

Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 05:53 PM (oZfic)

782 ok, now look who is touting this story next and how they are touting it: "POLITICO: Mitt Romney's Campaign Is In Complete Shambles Running a campaign that is "specifics-free and lame." http://tinyurl.com/9o7qhzw I am sitting her laughing. The romney/ryan campaign is driving them nuts. Politico didn't give it away but BI did. Here they are, back again, with the "where are the specifics, tell us what you are going to do" meme. Now, if you recall, every time McCain said he would do something, with specifics, that people liked, BO would pipe up and say "Sounds good, I'll do that too"....eventually you couldn't tell the difference between them except one had more white hair than the other. I guess they figure the romney/ryan team has all the answers. They were riding high in the polls and then the convention and a slowdown. They have to go back to the week before they got that great polling and figure out what they did to get there. They also have to keep their mouths shut about what specifically they would do. Cause as soon as they get specific, BO's team will capitalize on that. Too funny, they are sending this out to try and get them to give specifics again....

Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 06:08 PM (oZfic)

783 The answer is simple. Put beth myers in charge. This other guy failed to get bob dole anywhere...

Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 06:12 PM (oZfic)

784 Last election Rasmussen nailed it. Got higher prediction result scores than any other pollster. http://electoralmap.net/2012/2008_election.php I'm sticking with them.

Posted by: Keith at September 16, 2012 06:22 PM (RIuXQ)

785 Ace: "I think it means something" Well YEAH. It's like if you leave the rest of the roast chicken out on the table overnight the cats and microbes are after it exactly like cats and microbes get after roast chicken if you leave it out of the table overnight. Go ask Rasmussen, Ace; you got enough pull to do that. Have him on one of them shows you go on, and ask him there. This is like on those physics blogs when some guy's bagging on and on about cold fusion based on a slant on the data from one incident with inadequate controls, dubious theory and no repeatability. After all a while, even yer true beliebers gonna ax' for some hook, some theory that fits the standard model, some data that fits the curve, some experiment run everyone can point to and say, yup, thar she blows. Yer doing this to get the morons to mumble among themselves. I recolmember this horse poop from two thousand aught eight, it's just coming a bit earlier this time. I got the horse by me His name is Mitt Romney And here's Rasmussen sayin' if the day's sun-ny Can do ... can do Raz says that this horse can do And if Raz says this horse can do Then Drudge says the same thing too And Allahpundit and the Cap'n too And Ace ... him too They all say this horse can do Can do ... can do Suckahs.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at September 16, 2012 06:47 PM (vahvH)

786 Ace, with a million comments on this thread, you probably won't even see let alone respond to my comment, but you are getting bitch slapped by the dude on Hillbuzz blog for being such a negative little girl on the polling stats that we all know are skewed D. Not taking sides here, but he has a little bit of a point. What's your take on that?

Posted by: Gustave at September 16, 2012 07:52 PM (d6jWI)

787 Interested Party said: Relax. Rass polls are closest right now to what the actual turnout splits will be. OH, FL, VA, NC and even NV are traditionally R states, and only when D in 2008 due to a huge financial crisis peaking right during the last 6-8 weeks of the election. Anyone thinking at the end of the day these any go D given the incumbent under 48% continually in all of them, as well as their past history, should have their pundit license revoked. These are all likely R barring (with the possible exception of NV) a major development. This one is won.

It's not quite that simple.

Romney is in a bit of a danger zone, but not for the reasons commonly cited. Obama got a bit of a bounce, but not a big deal. It's being amplified by the "conventional-wisdom" media into some statement of the game being over just as it officially began (end of conventions).

The problem is that Obama's outperforming in the swing-states because he's invested large sums early on in advertising. He's running ahead of his national numbers -- he's in a false vacuum state. I assumed Romney could carpet bomb Obama in the last few months and just saturate the vote landscape, collapsing Obama back down to the national average or below.

The problem is Obama raised $100M last month as well. Granted he's got a burn rate like Enron's shredding room at 3am and his cash on hand is small, but still.

Strategically, Romney's best bet is maybe to lay-low as the world burns, see how the first debate shakes out then attack.


Posted by: Uriah Heep at September 16, 2012 08:19 PM (Wa+Fw)

788 I read that article... it's a little silly. We don't want to get depressed, but we definitely don't want to get overconfident. It felt like one of those sports fans on the forums that get on you for being a "bad fan" or not rooting hard enough. We need to bust our asses and inform people, not wish this election into a certain outcome.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 16, 2012 08:27 PM (6JMZR)

789 Posted by: Gustave at September 16, 2012 11:52 PM (d6jWI) Isn't that the blog founded to give a lot of support to hillary during her presidential run against BO for the dem nomination? And isn't hillary in the midst of the ME mess? Nuff said....

Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 09:07 PM (oZfic)

790 Obama is playing a very good game. They are begging for money, making you think their supporters are dwindling but, in the meanwhile, they are assembling a huge ground game with college kids and young twenty somethings. They are even providing housing in other cities. The money is going to come pouring in. Even is someone was on the fence they don't dare not give in case he wins reelection. You don't want to be the guy/gal who miscalculated. Been reading all the "there are no romney ads" stuff in various places. There is enough of a spread of places where people are making this statement that it does make you wonder if you weren't wondering already. Problem is, if you dare question this, you are labeled a troll or a concern troll. But, go read any article about the race and if there are comments some one or two always asks "where are the romney ads". If you put that question together with the alleged campaign drama and the sudden surge of BO, you have to conclude that they took a building lead and eviscerated it. Guess they want to be the next McCain. If he didn't want to win, he could have moved over and let some one else have a chance. Been denying it all week but tonight I'm starting to think he's decided to lose.

Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 09:13 PM (oZfic)

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