1 I call BS the old " ..we lost on purpose.  meant to do that"  Yea Fuck America, Piss off asshole.

2 Whatever.  Since Romney had been running for something like six years, this just sounds like sour grapes to me.

3 Oh I dunno ace. I think it makes perfect sense. But then...

4 Why would you possibly try so hard for something you didn't want.

Whatever criticisms of Romney you have, you have to admit the guy ran 'till the end.  He was out there working hard very minute of that campaign.

5 Honestly, it's over. You can fuck it and suck it all you want, but this is all irrelevant. The one take-away is that the establishment GOP is our enemy, or at the very least has an agenda that is anathema to small government and conservatism. It's not too early to start thinking about how to deal with them and prepare now for '14 and '16. Merry Christmas all.

6 And Obama wants to work together and isn't a petulent bastard.

7 Sour grapes, methinks.

8 When we were at the Red Rocks rally I turned to my Dad and said he's doing this because he thinks he's the right guy to fix it.  Not because he wants to be President.  If that's what Tagg meant, I'm fine with it.

I'm not happy with how the election turned out or how it appears my contributions were spent, but there is one thing I'm sure of: If Romney were President his goal would be to fix the federal government.  He may have failed or he may have made choices that pissed me off, but I have no doubt about what his goal would have been.

9 baloney

10 I think romney has been runing for president at least half his life, the governor spot was just preparation.

11 ace, how goes the vacation?   I trust it is going well.

This smells of Mom and I talked him into it so leave him the fuck alone now to me.  Also there's nothing inconsistent about having to be talked into running and then, once running, going all out to get the nomination.


Why did you have to bring up Perry?   Why?   Though I supposed that technically it's not your fault that Perry stepped on his own dick and then went out and found a few other dicks and stepped on those too.  Technically.

12 One of Fox's talking political heads this morning said this was absolute BS.  Personally, I really don't give a shit.  At some point we have to get over this naval gazing.


We lost because the FSA came out in droves for their Magic Negro. I don't think they have any more Magic Negros in the wings for 2016.

13 Should have run teh Fred! Cue "fire in the belly" bullshit.

14 As soon as Romney started with the "Obama's a nice guy, he's just over his head" I knew we were doomed.  That's two cycles in a row where we have fielded candidates that lacked the stones to fight like hell.  Merry Christmas all.

15 What Vic said. 


I'll wait for the nexty post. 

16 13 One of Fox's talking political heads this morning said this was absolute BS. Personally, I really don't give a shit. At some point we have to get over this naval gazing. We lost because the FSA came out in droves for their Magic Negro. I don't think they have any more Magic Negros in the wings for 2016. Posted by: Vic at December 24, 2012 02:36 PM (53z96) Cory Booker. Deval Patrick.

17 Hogwash.

No one goes through such hell now without immeasurable desire. This is no, "Well, I guess I'll run. If I must... since no other in a nation of hundreds of millions wants to. What the hey, right?"

18 If he didn't want to run, then why run?  How can you persuade someone to do that?


Hmm.  All of the other announced candidates flared out in their own ways.  Maybe it was the lack of anyone really viable, who really had a chance?  You look at the self-inflicted injuries, and media inflicted injuries, the others had and you think  "What if Santorum got the nod?  There would have been Sandra Fluke even more so than it was." for example.


And I think - who could have run successfully?

19 Whether or not this is true, the country dodged a bullet by not allowing that disingenuous flippity-flopper in to office. I have no doubt that he would, as president, be advocating for the loosening of assault weapon restrictions and regulations in order to appease his gun nut conservative base. Thank goodness.

20 Romney tore his R opponents apart in the primaries because he wanted revenge for losing to Juan in 2008.  But he didna wanna win against Hussein


he made his point in the primaries, then figured either he'd coast to a Reluctant Victory or lose gracefully.   Great strategy!! 


Don't we deserve better ( he asked, wistfully and rhetorically ) ?

21 >>>Cory Booker. Deval Patrick. Isn't Booker a "cornball brother"?

22 Here's a topic that's never OT around here:   All I have to say is that if this is true then I'm a super genius.   http://bit.ly/gSRx2b

23 TFG is the cornball brother of all time.

24 Thank goodness.

Posted by: truth at December 24, 2012 02:40 PM (0YWG9)

yeah, 'thank goodness' we have four more years of an incompetent radical Lefty stooge narcissist frog-faced creep as President

thank goodness...

25 This sounds reasonable.  Comparable to Boehner doesn't want to be Speaker of the House.

26

sted by: truth at December 24, 2012 02:40 PM (0YWG9

 

Oh piss off Navycopjoe.

27 Cory Booker. Deval Patrick.

Posted by: baldilocks via iPad at December 24, 2012 02:39 PM (Su0W2)

If they plan on running either one of those two losers they had best get right on making their image change.

28

We lost because the FSA came out in droves for their Magic Negro. I don't think they have any more Magic Negros in the wings for 2016.

==========

Yeah but the FSA will be there in force for whoever promises more of it. The FSA has a lot of REMFs that vote rat as well.

29 Vic: "I don't think they have any more Magic Negros in the wings for 2016."

Hillary is married to The First Black President. I'm pretty sure the Statists will see some of that magic having rubbed onto Hillary.

30 OMG!....They are selling Barack Obama Victory Coins on the Firefly Marathon...I think I just threw up in my mouth...good gawd where is the Wild Turkey 101...hap me Jesus...

31 Romney's version of "Let it Burn."

32 Hillary is married to The First Black President. I'm pretty sure the Statists will see some of that magic having rubbed onto Hillary.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 24, 2012 02:43 PM (eHIJJ)

Hillary will not run and she is too old.

33 25 Here's a topic that's never OT around here: All I have to say is that if this is true then I'm a super genius. http://bit.ly/gSRx2b

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at December 24, 2012 02:42 PM (Gk3SS)

 

I'm betting that's its just a case of the guys conducting the study not paying attention to what the racktastic girls were saying because they were staring at their tits, and later going "yeah I think she sounded smart"

34 All I have to say is that if this is true then I'm a super genius. Without pictures... This would mean that high school cafeteria ladies are SOOPER DOOPER EINSTEIN GENIUSES

35 At some point Republican politicians have to learn to be mean in public against non-Republicans. We run vicious primary campaigns then go full pussy in the general. If we refuse to say anything mean about a Democrat if they are a woman, or black, or gay, or a retard ... they the Dems are gonna keep running black lesbian retards.

36 25 Here's a topic that's never OT around here: All I have to say is that if this is true then I'm a super genius. http://bit.ly/gSRx2b

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at December 24, 2012 02:42 PM (Gk3SS)

This needs a closer study.

37 Are you kidding me?

I wasted my vote on him for NOTHING?  I mean seriously.

As for 2016, the push will be to get Michelle Obama to run, you wait and see.

38 Yeah but the FSA will be there in force for whoever promises more of it. The FSA has a lot of REMFs that vote rat as well.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 24, 2012 02:43 PM (MPjT

Every Commiecrat since LBJ has run on a platform of free shit.  Up until recently they did not win that often.

39 I don't believe it. These politicians who run for president have enormous egos. It has to put a real dent in their self esteem to be rejected by the voters. I don't think Romney was a perfect candidate, but I thought he ran a pretty tough campaign. He wasn't just running against Obama, he was running against almost the entire MSM. Tagg's making excuses for his dad's being rejected.

40 35 Hillary is married to The First Black President. I'm pretty sure the Statists will see some of that magic having rubbed onto Hillary. Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 24, 2012 02:43 PM (eHIJJ) Hillary will not run and she is too old. --------- We all know who the republicans will run in 2016: A boring, rich white guy so that they can lose by an even greater percentage of the vote.

41 I'm betting that's its just a case of the guys conducting the study not paying attention to what the racktastic girls were saying because they were staring at their tits, and later going "yeah I think she sounded smart" Posted by: buzzion at December 24, 2012 02:44 PM (GULKT)


Let's all focus on the important part, someone(s) got paid to study differential rack size.   I think we all need to question our life choices that led to that not being us. 

42 I agree, this sounds suspiciously like revisionism to soothe bruised egos and make Romney look like a dignified elder statesman.

I would have preferred a biting, scratching, take-no-prisoners candidate who stomped on Obama's face and pissed in his mouth.

But that's just me.

43 I think Tagg is doing a retarded version of -- Romney wasn't running for ego, but service. I think it just was mistranslated from the original plutocrat Mormonese.

44

That AFP article also called Romney a multi-billionaire.

 

Is that true?

 

Isn't AFP a commie French outfit? Commie French are not to be trusted.

45 We all know who the republicans will run in 2016: A boring, rich white guy so that they can lose by an even greater percentage of the vote.

Posted by: truth at December 24, 2012 02:47 PM (0YWG9)

I am waiting to see if they change the primary system or not.  If they don't we will run yet another lackluster "moderate" who will not excite the base.  The common cry will be "he will deliver blue States".

I am already half in the bag for abandoning the Republican Party.  That will be the final straw.

46 Let's all focus on the important part, someone(s) got paid to study differential rack size. I think we all need to question our life choices that led to that not being us.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at December 24, 2012 02:47 PM (Gk3SS)

 

Well I don't know about you but I have certainly dedicated much of my life to studying that.  Without the need to figure out what's going on in their noggins.

47 Bloomberg/Huntsman 2016

The no salt ticket!

48 48, they were using the metric system...

49

I call BS.....

that Perry appeard to be a good candidate

50

Lincoln referred to his own and others' presidential ambitions as 'the worm in the belly'. According to Lincoln, that worm of ambition gnawed away at him until he won the election.

 

In retrospect (and it's always in retrospect when we have these insights),  I didn't see it in Romney, that fire, that demonstration of steely resolve. Romney's lack of that burning desire to do big things and change the country explains much of his campaign--or at least his inability to go after Obama tooth and claw. I mean, think about it: the big theme seized upon by his campaign was that President Obama is a nice guy in over his head. Well, for one thing, President Obama is emphatically not a nice guy: witness Benghazi, Fast and Furious, the unsealing of Jack and Jeri Ryan's sealed divorce proceedings, the disqualification of all of his state senate opponents, and so on. And 'in over his head'? Viewed from a certain perspective, Obama has been the most effective liberal president in American history, with the possible exceptions of FDR and LBJ. Thus, Romney's central campaign theme was based on provable falsehoods but offered a nice guy, above the fray, wholesome approach that appealed to Romney's sense of himself as a gentleman.

 

Thing is, one can't be a gentleman (or a lady) when taking on the Chicago Machine. You've got to want it to win it. You've got to get your hands dirty and your shirt bloody. You've got to be able to imply the other guy is the son of a whore and reveal that he secretly cries while watching episodes of Grey's Anatomy. Whatever it takes.

51

Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 02, 2012 01:26 PM (0YWG9)

 

Posted by: truth at December 24, 2012 02:47 PM (0YWG9)

52 This is just a push back against the meme that Romney has been running for President 'forever' and that he was trying to do what his father couldn't. That he was more interested in being President that he would say anything. I heard that said here more than a few times.

53 As bad as SCOAMF has been and as horrendous as he has yet to be, here are three words to make you puke: President Keith Ellison. Now that's a magical negro.

54

Have the french ever failed to betray an ally? I still can't figure out why the semi-sane nations never slaughtered every last of the vile, french.

 

This has to be the only nation ever to be allowed to exist purely for the fact that they have the best looking whores in western europe.

55 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at December 24, 2012 02:47 PM (Gk3SS)

I have been studying rack sizes my entire adult life, and at least half of my childhood.

I consider it my avocation, and would be insulted to see it as a job.

56 I know for a fact big boobs are related to IQ.

They make men dumb as hell.

57

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at December 24, 2012 02:47 PM (Gk3SS)

 

 

But the major question then becomes... do Women then get Smarter with Bolt Ons?

58 >>>After failing to win the 2008 Republican nomination, Romney told his family he would not run again

I guess that makes him a founding member of the LiB caucus. It would have been nice to know that before the primaries.

59 If this is in any way true then it would appear that Romney was the ultimate inside job!

60 #47 said it better than me.

61 Well I hope he tries harder when they nominate him again in 2016.

62 I thought Romney's net worth was in the hundreds of millions, not billions. Huntsman (or papa Huntsman) is a billionaire iirc. As for this crap. It's Christmas Eve and I can't think of anything charitable to say about Mitt or his family so I'll just say nothing.

63 I think this is where Navy guy gets his little revenge on us for falling out of love with Sarah.

64 53 I call BS..... that Perry appeard to be a goodcandidate Posted by: G-Man at December 24, 2012 02:50 PM (deGdR) What? He was until people decided they preferred debate performance over everything else...

65 Tagg Romney is not Mitt Romney.

I think that's pretty much all there needs to be said about it. 

66 As for this crap. It's Christmas Eve and I can't think of anything charitable to say about Mitt or his family so I'll just say nothing.

Posted by: Y-not at December 24, 2012 02:53 PM (5H6zj)

 

Hence discussing boobs.

67 Romney can make amends by funding the next election for a Republican Candidate that really wants it and wants to fight for it

68 What? He was until people decided they preferred debate performance over everything else... Posted by: KG at December 24, 2012 02:54 PM (p7BzH) Which btw you'll notice that Romney's vaunted debate skills didn't help him. (hit post too soon)

69 Ah yes, the boring rich white guy smear. Love the racist smears. Pretty much all candidates are rich. So rich is a give. For both Repubs and Dems. Obama was rich as hell, too. Bestselling books have that effect. Kerry was rich. Gore was rich. Clinton was rich. Everybody famous is rich these days. Politics is a good way to get famous and rich. White. Yeah, most Repubs are white. You got a problem that motherfucker? Male. Hey every president ever from any party has been male. Same with the VP. Voters don't have a problem with that. Boring. Media declares them boring. W was apparently a coke-snorting alcoholic orgy-having young man -- oh, but he's Repub and so - boring. Then he was the enforcer during his father's 4 years as President. Then gov of Texas. Throw in some pro sports owership and oil wildcatting. Wow, what a boring life. Sick of the racist smears.

70 Posted by: Invictus at December 24, 2012 02:52 PM (OQpzc)

Uh...the tranny hookers on the Bois de Boulogne are not particularly attractive.

I would guess that any former Soviet bloc country has better looking hookers than France.

71

Posted by: Vic at December 24, 2012 02:49 PM (53z96)

 

Registered Independent since the 90's..... once I figured out that Republicans also grow Government, just slower then the Dems... and in different directions.

 

EPA?  DHS?  No child Left Behind?

72 Posted by: Y-not at December 24, 2012 02:53 PM (5H6zj)

Merry Christmas young lady!

73

"do you really think Romney lost because he was too moderate?"

 

Is that a joke? Part of the reason Romney lost is that the average voter saw him as a human weather vane.

74 This is the case of a confused and maybe opportunistic son selling out to The Boston Globe/NYT Disinformation Group.

NO ONE goes through that without wanting it.

We lost primarily because what passes for GOP leadership is too abysmal to ascribe merely to sheer incompetence.

There is a corrupt and traitorous element (especially among the hired consultants) unfortunately.

I also find Truman North's theories on targeted fraud hard to discount as a contributing (if not decisive) factor as well.

75 I don't think Romney was a perfect candidate, but I thought he ran a pretty tough campaign. He wasn't just running against Obama, he was running against almost the entire MSM. Tagg's making excuses for his dad's being rejected.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 24, 2012 02:46 PM (WfUOw)

For romney it was a rich mans hobby , there's no excuse for him to be unprepared for the MSM.

76 Perry was a good candidate on paper. Standing for hours and debating shortly after back surgery and while hopped up on pain meds and no sleep = a destroyed candidacy. I bet there's many things you are good at that you would suck at shortly after back surgery, doped up with pain meds, and working on a few hours of sleep.

77

OK fine!  I didn't want to be President anyway!

Posted by: Pee Wee Romney

78 It's over, Johnny...IT'S OVER!!!

79 buzzion: "Hence discussing boobs."

Doesn't Tagg qualify given his claim? I mean, this thread started boobily.

80 I would guess that any former Soviet bloc country has better looking hookers than France.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 24, 2012 02:55 PM (GsoHv)

 

That's why I limitied it to western Europe. East European hottie are unbeatable. At least until they hit forty and move on to resemble a well inflated beach ball. However, if you dig brunette whores, France is hard to beat.

81 I didn't want a sandwich with Kate Upton and Christina Hendricks as the bread anyway.

82 It's possible that Romney was running more out of a sense of duty than a genuine desire to be president. Unfortunately, it's hard to win it if you don't really, really want it.

83 Cognitive Dissonance.

Yeah those grapes I can't reach probably taste sour. Even if I tried and tried but never got high enough to grab them so I did not want them in the first place. Time to move on.

84 Posted by: Invictus at December 24, 2012 02:59 PM (OQpzc)

I don't know what kind of standards you have; expecting me to read and comprehend your comment before I respond?

I recall some smokin' hot hookers in Italy.

85 Standing for hours and debating shortly after back surgery and while hopped up on pain meds and no sleep = a destroyed candidacy. ----- I would like to kick Perry's back specialist in the nuts. Merry Christmas!

86 CÂ’mon, CÂ’mon. Put up your dukes.

Anytime. Anywhere. Go ahead, Taggart.

Take your best shot.

87 In 2016 I'll just take my donations and throw them down a storm drain and piss into every day after that. The satisfaction level will be much higher.

88 Thanks Charlie Brown's D! Food thread? Here's tomorrow's menu at Casa Y-not: b'stilla (a sweet-savory Moroccan chicken pie in phyllo) couscous with pomegranate, mint, & pine nuts spiced cauliflower with preserved lemons Moroccan carrot salad olives, almonds We'll probably sip Arak (akin to Ouzo) and/or Pama liqueur in club soda What's everyone else having?

89
Romney can make amends by funding the next election for a Republican Candidate that really wants it and wants to fight for it
Posted by: Nevergiveup





Romney may not have spent that much of his money on the election.  Spent an S-load of your's though. Money that could have gone on Senate, House or State races.

He's certainly not throwing millions on another guy's run.

90 JDP, that's stupid. Ignoring the back surgery is idiocy.

91 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hNIX7V21pU

92 I recall some smokin' hot hookers in Italy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 24, 2012 03:02 PM (GsoHv)

 

How dare you?!! Italian girls are the best looking in all Europe, and not a single one of them is a whore. All the whores are imported frog chicks. Or arab chicks who claim to be Spanish.

93

Posted by: Beto at December 24, 2012 03:04 PM (BAnPT)

 

I would suggest taking that money, pooling it with a couple of others maybe... and buying your OWN Ad in the Local Newspaper...

 

Say what YOU want....

 

The disconnect is that the Politicians and media have no idea how we think out here anymore....

94 Sure he didn't want to be president. Who would want to move to a smaller house in a shitty neighborhood?

95 Romney didn't want to be President?

I had a hunch he didn't have the fire in the gut. Dems like Obullshit and Clinton, they have that fire in the gut. Either one would have set fire to his mother to get the job

96 Not being personally close to Romney, I can't say whether he felt this way. I can say that he was raised to 'do his duty by his country' and that the Mormon thing added several more layers of 'do what is right regardless of personal convenience'.  Think of all the stories about making sure his kids were 'hands on' community helpers, not just writers of checks. Right this minute I'm serving in a very demanding volunteer position because I know it's the right thing to do. I am sure many morons and ettes are doing the same, even thought they have many other things they'd love to do with their time.

The man who truly wants to be president scares me. We have a perfect example in office right now.

97 So it's blizzarding outside right now.

98 Sigh. I do not want to rehash the election right now. Back to the music thread.

99

Ted Turner owns about 2million acres in Nebraska and New Mexico.

 

What do you think he'll call his new nation? Turnerville? Turnistan? 

 

100 Who would want to move to a smaller house in a shitty neighborhood? It is the ultimate in 'Section 8' housing.

101
The man who truly wants to be president scares me. We have a perfect example in office right now.

Posted by: Pentangle at December 24, 2012 03:08 PM (QYEQB)

So wasn't it Romney's duty then to beat him no matter what?

102 Posted by: Romeo13 at December 24, 2012 03:07 PM


I wonder if we would need to register as a PAC?

103 Posted by: Y-not at December 24, 2012 03:06 PM (5H6zj)

I'm Jewish.

We're going out for Chinese food....of course!

104 one factor that might seem to validate Tagg's point is that Mittens actually did quit (for all intents and purposes) after the first debate.

When it stated to look like he might actually win, all of the 'fire' went out of his appearances and the (mild, kitten swipe style) "attacks" on obama stopped

105 The man who truly wants to be president scares me.

Posted by: Pentangle at December 24, 2012 03:08 PM (QYEQB)

 

One usually doesn't just fall into the job--exceptions would be Washington, Grant, and Eisenhower, war heroes so popular and universially acceptable that their campaigns more or less consisted of publicly saying, 'I'm running'. For the most part, however, the job goes to he (or she) willing to fight for it. Lincoln wanted it. Reagan wanted it. Are you frightened of them?

 

The man who doesn't want to be president yet runs anyway pisses me off.

106

Wasn't Soros buying up food distribution networks?

 

Wanna be where the power will be in twenty years?

107 You're reading too much into this. No sane person "wants" to be President. Romney actually thought he was best for the job who had a chance (and I agree with him). He did it as duty, and did it well. The problems were (1) the US is now 47% idiot, and (2) Dems & their minions can manufacture 4% of the vote and get away with it.

108 kbdabear: "Either one would have set fire to his mother to get the job"

Nah. Just throwing the grandmother who raised you under the bus was enough. No incendiary device needed.

109 Cheer up guys! It's almost Christmas!

110 "Perry appeared to be a good candidate" Not in my universe. He was a failure, on paper, and in public. Romney was the best of the lot, and that's not saying a helluva lot. None of the possibly good candidates stepped up. No Palin, Christie, Rubio, ... None of them. And I don't blame them. What we got were the bitter dregs, and we had to work with the hand we were dealt. So we instituted a long and bruising process on these people. Some who clearly had no business being there (Santorum, Perry, ...) were the non-Romney's for a while, but the whole point of the process was that all the candidates were meh at best. We simply had to figure out which was the most likely to succeed or least likely to implode. Romney was that, from the beginning, but we decided to bleed him first. So we bled him. And gave our opponents ammunition. Lots of ammunition. Bruising and deadly ammunition. So, why again are we going through these very long processes, with a variety of loser candidates and a few who might be real? Is the point to arm our opponents? Perry was never real. Never had a chance.

111 what an idiotic statement to make, and by his own son!

112 Can we have another gun thread please? I need to be cajoled into buying a gun that I don't need because it's 600.00 and I'm unemployed. http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/default.aspx?item=SCJ44MB It's awesomeness befounds me.

113
Cheer up guys! It's almost Christmas!
Posted by: Jon





Maybe where you live.

Here in the Blue States it's "Non-denominational Winter Festival" -- with mariachi bands and Maya Angelou poems....

114

I'm only voting for Perry or Rand Paul.

 

Plan accordingly. Nominate another Bush, or a Christie, and I'll vote for Obama for a third term. I'd rather vote for an outright enemy that a traitor. Then I'll support Perry as president of the second confederacy.

115 Cory Booker. Deval Patrick.

Perhaps, but Hope and Change is kinda worn out, and Forward ain't gonna cut it by then either.

Only a certifiably insane person would run for president 4 years from now.  There's gonna be a lot of lower income social unrest by then and the middle class will be ready to burn D.C. down too.

We may be entering a period similar to Rome's "Year of 4 Emperors", where the president is just a walking bulls-eye for all the usual malcontents and the economically desperate

116

"Perry was never real. Never had a chance."

 

Yeah. And Palin was going to give up her lucrative career of bilking rubes who thought she might actually have the guts to do something other than flap her gums  about running for POTUS.

 

Sucker.

117 The answer has probably been stretched till it's just out of context all together.

And by "stretched," I mean "stretched more than Erik Loomis 'dildo research' facility."

Funny enough, a lot of us didn't want Romney to be president, either.  But he left us little choice, so he can go pound sand. Brilliant white sand; pristine, imported from the gulf coast, and filtered so that it's 98% pure.

118 Sucker.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at December 24, 2012 03:24 PM (VrVBw)

 

Nominate another moderate.

 

I dare you.

119 "Fire in the belly" = statist busybody. The only people who love being politicians are those who are either in love with themselves or in love with power. That said, every candidate in the last Republican primary (except Santorum) was calling for a shift of power towards the states, and away from the Feds. If Romney was really "in it to win", he should have saved his money to bankroll another candidate. Or at least buy Perry a stool to sit on during the debates.

120 Is Tagg the genius who thought it would be a good idea to "humanize" his dad by telling the story of the dog on the roof of the car? Yeah, that sure worked out well...

121

Then I'll support Perry as president of the second confederacy.

Posted by: Invictus at December 24, 2012 03:21 PM (OQpzc)

 

Good luck with that. Must say I'm envious of your rich fantasy life.

122 I write what I wrote yesterday, I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist. But sometimes they are real I suspect he was a trojan horse put up by the progressive establishment from both parties to ensure JEFs reelection. "Gosh OSP, that's the dumbest fuckin thing I have ever heard." I know, can't believe I wrote it. But after an all out destruction using all means necessary of every GOP candidate. He rolled over and played dead for the JEF. That's not a lie, That's a fact. Until we purge the GOP or mount a third party candidate, You need to learn how to be a prepper, join a militia force, or be prepared to live a soviet style existence.

123

My sister's in-laws (who are on good terms with my parents) know Romney, and provided support for him during both the 2008 and 2012 campaigns.  I don't know the full extent of their involvement, but I know they did at least a lot of local work for Romney.  So word sometimes trickles back to my parents about odds and ends.

 

The OP's post meshes up with something that I learned.  I don't know how badly Romney wanted the job in 2008, but after that primary he'd decided that was it.  He'd lost.  He was done.  He wasn't going to run again.

 

124 Good luck with that. Must say I'm envious of your rich fantasy life.

Posted by: troyriser at December 24, 2012 03:28 PM (vtiE6)

 

Only time will tell. Nominate one more moderate and let me know how that works out for you.

125 >>>My sister's in-laws (whoare on good terms with my parents Stuck spacebar, or stuck "a key"? Because this could be very interesting...

126 This feels like a final cockslap to the face. It's probably supposed to be some sort of face saving maneuver, but ...

127 It is probably something like this, Rommey didn't want to run but felt obligated to because he thought he could do a better job than those running. Sort of an American ideal, if no one capable will step up I guess I will have to.

128 Nobody wants to go die in a war, but patriotic people do it because it needs to be done.

129 So..... first three republican primaries held in..... 1. Texas   2. Mississippi and 3. Nebraska?.... I don't give a shit what two or three red states hold the first primaries just as long as Iowa and New Hampshire are fucking out of the running for the rest of time.  Those two states fucking suck ass at picking front runners...  Iowa is sucking at the government mandate etheanole titte and New Hampshire is a northeastern clusterfuck big government true believer... oh and the RNC better make sure that starting right now there is registered republicans only voting in the primaries.... who the hell thinks it's a good idea to have dems voting for the republican nominee..... oh yeah, dems do....so, do the opposite of what dems want then eh?  Duh.

130 But he was also an arrogant dickwad that didn't prepare a concession speech and was shellshocked when the results came in? Yeah, not buying it. Agree with the 'pfff, I didn't wanna do that anyway' excuse. Still, the more we learn from the post-mortem on the Romney Campaign, the clearer it becomes that he wasn't the brilliant manager and political shark we thought he was.

131

@134 -

 

Doh!

 

Dunno why, but my spaces frequently seem to disappear around here.  I seem to lose at least one per post.  And it only happens here.

 

 

132

@139 - the clearer it becomes that he wasn't the brilliant manager and political shark we thought he was.

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You talking about Obama?

 

"I can do your job better than you!"

 

133 Posted by: Pentangle at December 24, 2012 03:08 PM (QYEQB)
So wasn't it Romney's duty then to beat him no matter what?

Absolutely not.  There are many things I would not stomach in a candidate.  I don't give a flying fir tree (seasonal) whether Republicans win if their policies disgust me on those principles I will not yield upon. There really are times when you *have* to say, "Get thee behind me, Satan", or you cannot call yourself a man (or woman).

I didn't care for several of Romney's policies, but if he had won, I would not have felt *ashamed* of him.  I do feel ashamed of Obama. The reasons are innumerable, but just one is a dead ambassador in Benghazi.

134 This has to BS, why the website dedicated to scorching Perry? If he did not want to win, he should have helped our best chance. Perry needed more time from his back surgery. I was quoting Perry yesterday, when he said he wants the govt less involved in our lives. He could have regained his footing if not for Mitt & Michelle " guardasil" Bachmann. She had no chance!

135 Cheer up guys! It's almost Christmas! Too bad I have to give mine up if I don't want to drive into the teeth of a tornadic outbreak to get home tomorrow. I hate weather.

136 "142 Posted by: Pentangle at December 24, 2012 03:08 PM (QYEQB) So wasn't it Romney's duty then to beat him no matter what? Absolutely not. There are many things I would not stomach in a candidate. I don't give a flying fir tree (seasonal) whether Republicans win if their policies disgust me on those principles I will not yield upon. There really are times when you *have* to say, "Get thee behind me, Satan", or you cannot call yourself a man (or woman). I didn't care for several of Romney's policies, but if he had won, I would not have felt *ashamed* of him. I do feel ashamed of Obama. The reasons are innumerable, but just one is a dead ambassador in Benghazi. Posted by: Pentangle at December 24, 2012 03:36 PM (QYEQB) " Obama feels no shame, so that's definitely something that needs to be outsourced, as it were.

137 Only time will tell. Nominate one more moderate and let me know how that works out for you.

Posted by: Invictus at December 24, 2012 03:29 PM (OQpzc)

 

Done with moderates myself, but that doesn't mean the way to go is a second confederacy, especially when you consider the outcome of the first. Besides, if you wanted to organize a resistance movement, there's no better way to kill it in the womb than to evoke the fucking slave-owning Confederacy as a model and inspiration.

138 Sort of an American ideal, if no one capable will step up I guess I will have to.

Posted by: Wodun at December 24, 2012 03:34 PM (PEpU

 

He was a hell of a lot harsher to Perry and Gingrich than he was Obama. What should I infer from that?

 

 

 

 

139 "gee Dad.....a Winchester!' http://tinyurl.com/cecqspe

140

One usually doesn't just fall into the job--exceptions would be Washington, Grant, and Eisenhower, war heroes so popular and universially acceptable that their campaigns more or less consisted of publicly saying, 'I'm running'.

 

 

 

Barry was a war hero of the Free Shit Army. He led the invasion of the nicer neighborhoods of America.

141

My sister's in-laws (whoare....

Posted by: junior





Man, that Tourette's is a bitch, isn't it?

142 "149 One usually doesn't just fall into the job--exceptions would be Washington, Grant, and Eisenhower, war heroes so popular and universially acceptable that their campaigns more or less consisted of publicly saying, 'I'm running'. Barry was a war hero of the Free Shit Army. He led the invasion of the nicer neighborhoods of America. Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 24, 2012 03:41 PM (4u2LN) " "Forward!"

143

Yeah, I ran for President for almost a decade.  Doesn't mean I wanted to be President.  Really.

144 On the bright side, Mitt Romney didn't lose his mind.

Al Gore never recovered from his loss.  Now he's a dangerous, batshit-insane, America-hating, woman/genital abuser who believes in magical fairy dust.

145   Oh, and right about fucking now the 30 (30!) republican governors should be pushing all out on a flawless voter fraud package for their respective states.  24 (24!) republicans governors have a state house and state senate to ram this shit through!  One man ( or woman) one fucking vote.  Have the voters put their fingerprints on the ballot after casting the vote..... any two or more ballots with matching fingerprints are thrown out. Period.  and then the state police will track down the person commiting voter fraud and shoot them.... er.... arrest them and also fine them.... what ten grand.... and if they don't have ten grand... they take your car and your smartphone, ipods, ipads, air jordans and your xbox and ps3..... don't fine them 250,000 like they say you'll be fined by fbi for copying a film etc.  that's such a ridiculous fine that it's ignored by everyone.... fine them someway that people will understand and be frightened of.....

146

Perry entered the race late so I don't know if that's as good an example.  But what about Pawlenty?  That guy started running the second McCain lost and was reasonable enough for Romney to join him on the trail.

147 "153 On the bright side, Mitt Romney didn't lose his mind. Al Gore never recovered from his loss. Now he's a dangerous, batshit-insane, America-hating, woman/genital abuser who believes in magical fairy dust. Posted by: Fritz at December 24, 2012 03:43 PM (w3+gB) " I'm pretty sure he was at least a few of those things before too.

148 the womb than to evoke the fucking slave-owning Confederacy as a model and inspiration.

Posted by: troyriser at December 24, 2012 03:38 PM (vtiE6)

 

I'm totally open to a more focus group approved name.

149 Have the voters put their fingerprints on the ballot after casting the vote

Then your vote isn't anonymous.  I'm not liking the sound of that with totalitarians running the govt.

150 I'm totally open to a more focus group approved name. Posted by: Invictus at December 24, 2012 03:44 PM (OQpzc) LMAO....

151

Just about the only thing of consequence I didn't flip on during my Presidential campaign was that I wanted to be President.

152 "I don't think they have any more Magic Negros in the wings for 2016."

Oh, yes, we do!

153 Romney didn't want to be the Prez'dent Now we're finding out on Christmas Eve Like me, I guess we were a bunch of suckers I sent 200 bucks cause I believed

154

"I dare you. "

 

I voted Perry in the primary, and Romney in the General.

 

Maybe you'll nominate Jefferson Davis in 2016, and run against that Devil Lincoln.

155 Invictus- I am with you, Perry is the man in 2016. He has the fire in his belly. Never again for moderates! They all lose!

156

Have the voters put their fingerprints on the ballot after casting the vote..... any two or more ballots with matching fingerprints are thrown out. Period. and then the state police will track down the person commiting voter fraud and shoot them.... er.... arrest them and also fine them.... what ten grand

 

 

 

 

Nah. Cut off the finger. It's poetic justice.

157 Nah. Cut off the finger. It's poetic justice. ...cut off two.

158 The hell?  Sounds like b.s. to me.

Oh, and I got a call from the RNC today begging for money and told the guy never to call again.....but I did wish him a Merry Christmas. 

159 I'm pretty sure he was at least a few of those things before too.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 24, 2012 03:44 PM (T0lrq)

 

 

 

Do you really think so? If true, he hid it really well. It seemed to me that losing the 2000 election unhinged him entirely.

160 I'm totally open to a more focus group approved name.

Posted by: Invictus at December 24, 2012 03:44 PM (OQpzc)

Oh, yes, please! I don't have a creative bone in my body, but lots of people here do.  I would love to make a big noise about this - if it had a kewl name - if only because it would scare the hell out of the few leftists who know they couldn't actually stop us if we really got going.

161

It's over.  So why don't we nominate a conservative next time.  Let's try something different for a change. 

 

I think we're going to have to because I truly believe that Choomboy will try to jury-rig  the Constitution (he'll have almost free reign after the next four years) and run for a third term.

 

LIB.

162 Nah. Cut off the finger. It's poetic justice.

...cut off two.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Keeper of the Sacred Ampersands at December 24, 2012 03:50 PM (vkUBG)

 

 

 

 

 

I've got some rusty tin snips I'd be happy to donate.

163 "168 I'm pretty sure he was at least a few of those things before too.Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 24, 2012 03:44 PM (T0lrq)Do you really think so? If true, he hid it really well. It seemed to me that losing the 2000 election unhinged him entirely. Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 24, 2012 03:50 PM (4u2LN) " Yes.

164 >>>155 Perry entered the race late so I don't know if that's as good an example. But what about Pawlenty? That guy started running the second McCain lost and was reasonable enough for Romney to join him on the trail. Said not damning things about Global Warming. Proposed smoking bans and flirted with Cap and Trade. Also beat the shit out of the Democrats in the State Legislature, shutting down the government numerous times. Went out of his way to kiss the base's ass right after he declared. But got labeled a 'pussy' and 'Not Palin' so we couldn't have that.

165 After 9/11, Gore should have realized he caught a massive break by losing.

166

@purpav....

 

 yeah, I thought of that.... but how the hell do you stop vote fraud without having a way to make sure every person votes only once.....  I have no doubt that voter fraud is happening.... how do you stop it without having a way to throw out ballots that are added to the sum total of legitimate ballots that are cast?  I couldn't think of any other way to make sure it was one person one vote without fingerprinting.....  Help me out?

167

Not sure that a more resolutely conservative candidate is the way to go, because it makes him so easy for the MSM to smear him.

 

They'll smear him anyway (calling Romney stupid? WTF? Romney's a lot of things, but stupid definitely isn't one of them), but why make it so easy for them?

168 >>>Nominate another moderate. I dare you. RINO Candyass Presidents- Dwight Eisenhower Richard Nixon George H. W. Bush George W. Bush True Con Badass Presidents- Ronald Reagan Not exactly a sterling record there, fellers.

169 "169 I'm totally open to a more focus group approved name. Posted by: Invictus at December 24, 2012 03:44 PM (OQpzc) Oh, yes, please! I don't have a creative bone in my body, but lots of people here do. I would love to make a big noise about this - if it had a kewl name - if only because it would scare the hell out of the few leftists who know they couldn't actually stop us if we really got going. Posted by: Pentangle at December 24, 2012 03:51 PM (QYEQB) " The Constitutional States of America.

170 but how the hell do you stop vote fraud without having a way to make sure every person votes only once...

Death penalty.  $1M rewards to whistle blowers.

171 174After 9/11, Gore should have realized he caught a massive break by losing.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 24, 2012 03:52 PM (8AF5n)

 

 

 

 

 

We're the ones who caught the break. Gore would've come unglued on 9/11, and it'd have been 25th Amendment time.

172 Maybe you'll nominate Jefferson Davis in 2016, and run against that Devil Lincoln.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at December 24, 2012 03:48 PM (VrVBw)

 

Isn't he dead? I think Perry fits the bill. If you disapprove a lot, vote for the other guy. It is a semi-free country. I won't vote for your moderate in the general anymore.

 

Suck it, sell-outs. I'm pro-American from now on. The Rs can do it my way or learn to enjoy losing. Been voting for your lame moderate candidates since 1988. No more. I mean that.

173 "175 @purpav.... yeah, I thought of that.... but how the hell do you stop vote fraud without having a way to make sure every person votes only once..... I have no doubt that voter fraud is happening.... how do you stop it without having a way to throw out ballots that are added to the sum total of legitimate ballots that are cast? I couldn't think of any other way to make sure it was one person one vote without fingerprinting..... Help me out? Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at December 24, 2012 03:53 PM (0g4vW) " Vote by dye.

174 I am in survival mode. Can't change the past, too early to predict the R candidate future so I will chill for a couple of years and let it sort itself out.

In the meantime, burnin a yule log.

175 "176 Not sure that a more resolutely conservative candidate is the way to go, because it makes him so easy for the MSM to smear him. They'll smear him anyway (calling Romney stupid? WTF? Romney's a lot of things, but stupid definitely isn't one of them), but why make it so easy for them? Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 24, 2012 03:54 PM (4u2LN) " It's harder to smear someone who actually stands for something, because then you're discussing ideas, and not personalities.

176

This nation is slowly stripping itself of good  leaders.  Who  really wants to go through the MFM gauntlet as a conservative?  Who wants to expose their families to the abuse of the leftist punkery?

 

 

The left is winning and we're losing  because we're nice.  We have to quit being nice.  I'm tired of the abuse. 

177 Never again for moderates! They all lose!

Posted by: CarolT at December 24, 2012 03:48 PM (UjSt7)

 

I love the "Never again." message. It is true, and from the heart.

178 F the R's.

179 Well, that's a bit harsh.

180 The R next to the name means the candidate stands for nothing. When Boner dismissed the Conservative Committee Chairmen that Party ceased to be an option.

181 re: "It seemed to me that losing the 2000 election unhinged him entirely."

In the '80s he was becoming known as a sissy-voiced Southern Bible-thumper, with Big Media and a powermad shrew of a wife pulling his strings. That wasn't going to get him a Democratic VP job, so he set that aside and switched to repent-the-end-is-nigh brimstone environmentalism. Earth in the Balance was published in '92.

If you didn't notice Gore was a Manson-eyed Americans-hating psycho before 2000, you're bad at noticing things.

182 "189 The R next to the name means the candidate stands for nothing. When Boner dismissed the Conservative Committee Chairmen that Party ceased to be an option. Posted by: Butters at December 24, 2012 04:04 PM (NIZHJ) " Well, Boehner is not the party. And if not the Republicans, then who?

183 He spent fours running but didn't. Want to win. Commit his ass. Who says this stupid shit? How fucking stupid do these people think we are?

184  The R next to the name means the candidate stands for nothing. When Boner dismissed the Conservative Committee Chairmen that Party ceased to be an option.

Posted by: Butters at December 24, 2012 04:04 PM (NIZHJ)

 

 

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I agree.  But we should have started forming a third party immediately after the election.  I'm afraid we're going to be stuck with the repub beltway elite for the 2016 election if we don't start making the move soon.

 

In the meantime, the red states need to start going into full resistance mode.  The balance of power lies with the  red states now.

185 If there's one thing we should have learned from this election is the true con vs. moderate shit means nothing. Go ahead and nominate this true con, but don't expect a different result. That's just fucking wishful thinking.

186 188 Well, that's a bit harsh.

Mailmen are robbed very very infrequently.  Word is out that if you jack the mailman, you're gonna do a hard 20 in Federal prison.

Make the penalty for vote fraud so harsh, and so certain,  people won't even think about trying.

Right now if you get caught double voting, the chances you'll actually be prosecuted are quite slim. 

187 Well, Boehner is not the party. And if not the Republicans, then who? Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 24, 2012 04:08 PM (T0lrq) We'll know for sure in Jan, but I think Boner is done. Off to church, later rons.

188 "193 The R next to the name means the candidate stands for nothing. When Boner dismissed the Conservative Committee Chairmen that Party ceased to be an option. Posted by: Butters at December 24, 2012 04:04 PM (NIZHJ) --------------------------------------------------- I agree. But we should have started forming a third party immediately after the election. I'm afraid we're going to be stuck with the repub beltway elite for the 2016 election if we don't start making the move soon. In the meantime, the red states need to start going into full resistance mode. The balance of power lies with the red states now. Posted by: Soona at December 24, 2012 04:09 PM (mxRtd) " A third party is probably not going to end well. Trying to reform the Republican party is probably the best way forward.

189

I've been voting R for thirty damned years. All that has bought me is a continual loss, as there is never anything the Rs find worthy of fighting for.

 

I'm done.

 

Rs piss me off one scintilla more and I'll vote for Ron Paul, forget Rand. If it wasn't for Israel, I'd go that way today.

 

 

190 "194 If there's one thing we should have learned from this election is the true con vs. moderate shit means nothing. Go ahead and nominate this true con, but don't expect a different result. That's just fucking wishful thinking. Posted by: lowandslow at December 24, 2012 04:09 PM (GZitp) " I'm not sure I follow the Evidence -> Conclusion.

191 "195 188 Well, that's a bit harsh. Mailmen are robbed very very infrequently. Word is out that if you jack the mailman, you're gonna do a hard 20 in Federal prison. Make the penalty for vote fraud so harsh, and so certain, people won't even think about trying. Right now if you get caught double voting, the chances you'll actually be prosecuted are quite slim. Posted by: @PurpAv at December 24, 2012 04:10 PM (8AF5n) " Well, I was mostly replying to "F the Rs." That seemed a bit harsh. (But prevention is worth more than punishment. Vote by dye.)

192 "196 Well, Boehner is not the party. And if not the Republicans, then who? Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 24, 2012 04:08 PM (T0lrq) We'll know for sure in Jan, but I think Boner is done. Off to church, later rons. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 24, 2012 04:11 PM (3Y7RV) " Later.

193 vs. moderate shit means nothing. Go ahead and nominate this true con, but don't expect a different result. That's just fucking wishful thinking.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 24, 2012 04:09 PM (GZitp)

 

Based on history, I lose nothing taking that route. At worst I lose and don't have to suffer the embarassment of having defended such ball-less losers as the current R party.

194 Later, all. God bless. :-)

195 I'm smoking 4lbs of salmon over alder chips Wife is making her gma's corn spoonbread (really good.) greenbeans italiano, (greenbeans w/sourcream, pimento, italian spices, topped w/breadcrums) And something she calls "green salad." Nantucket cranberry pie for dessert. And lots of Hop Czar pale ale.

196 It's harder to smear someone who actually stands for something, because then you're discussing ideas, and not personalities.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 24, 2012 03:59 PM (T0lrq)

 

 

 

 

 

The MSM? Discussing ideas? Seriously? They'd smear the guy even harder, just to avoid discussing his ideas. Recall that six months ago they were talking about Romney's dog of THIRTY FUCKING YEARS AGO.

197 "I'm not sure I follow the Evidence -> Conclusion."

What do you mean you don't follow it. Say what you want about how Romney governed before and may have governed as President, their message was of less government to stimulate employment along with some fiscal sanity, and the electorate rejected it. If a 16 trillion dollar debt and record unemployment didn't matter now, what makes you think a 20 trillion dollar debt and record unemployment will matter in four years?

198 If you dye the finger, you have to count on the poll workers to not overlook it. If you count on finger dye, you have to make sure the poll worker dyes the finger. There is no way to stop widespread vote fraud. The only way to combat it is to get better at it than Democrats.

199 That Romney didn't want it is probably the best answer we've all been looking for. No one has ever been reelected with Obama's numbers. Axelrod even said that Romney missed some great opportunities. I've said I thought he ran a great campaign. But I think he wasn't fully committed to it. I think he thought it was over before it started and there was no harm. And compared to McCain, anything would look good. In retrospect, Romney should have went after Obama on Benghazi. He should have been harder (or even mentioned it) at how it was impossible for Obama to fix the economy since he's never held a job in the private sector, never owned a company, never had to make payroll and never had to balance a budget. On and on. I'll admit it's lots of hypocrisy on my part. I so wanted Obama out of there. But there were definitely missed opportunities. I cannot deny it.

200 Merry Christmas, all.  Off to the Christmas pageant at church.  Heading to ATL in the morning to "celebrate" the day with the Obamabot sib in-laws.

I'll spend the day in a corner, curbing the urge to choke everyone in the room.  Nothing says "Merry Christmas" like having to suppress rage all day.  Gah.

Hope you all have a safe and happy day tomorrow.

201 "Based on history, I lose nothing taking that route. At worst I lose and don't have to suffer the embarassment of having defended such ball-less losers as the current R party."

I got no problem with that, I just don't want the next Presidential election cycle being dominated with our own version of magical thinking that we're going to somehow win the Presidency.

202 If you curse them to their faces you may not have to endure their company in future.

203 You idiots. We won the election! It was flat out stolen. 337k votes in all the urban centers of your worst electoral nightmares. The evidence is a mile high, even leaking through to the MFM. We just have to steal better. It really didn't matter who the candidate was. It was stolen.

204

  The republican governors need to push through a lot of other things as well.... how about an able bodied worker law?  No one can be on welfare that is able bodied.... able bodied people work and can of course receive help from private and church run charities to supplement their incomes...welfare is for the mentally retarded and the physically handicaped only... able bodied- get a fucking job... this will hopefully push the FSA into the workforce and/ or make them move to a blue/ bluer state that will no doubt welcome them with open arms.  Sounds harsh right?  Fuck em.  The media will have a few stories on it but, truth be told, carrying Obamas water for him is a fulltime job for the LSM so they won't devote too much to attacking governors that are fixing their states problems.  The republican governors need to do this shit right now.... they are called every name in the book anyway so do the right fucking thing and end the free ride for these goddamn parasites that are sucking taxpayers dry. 

 

  30! Republican governors!  24 with a state house and state senate!  How is that possible?  Because the MSM focuses on national isssues and national candidates.  They carry Obamas water and attack anyone against Obama and the republicans can make it to power on a state level.  Use this power to advance conservative/libery principles and kick the FSA to the curb!  Forward!  You piece of shit degenerates!  Get a job or GTFO!  Woot Woot!!

205 "Invictus- I am with you, Perry is the man in 2016. He has the fire in his belly.
Never again for moderates! They all lose!"
Posted by: CarolT at December 24, 2012 03:48 PM (UjSt7)

Not this garbage again.  Why not nominate a hamster, or just wear a beanie and sit in the corner gibbering?

Next time around, we'd better not see anyone named Gingrich, Perry, Santorum, Bachmann, Bush, Cain, or Pawlenty.  People want to start up with that noise again and it's beyond over.  Every man for himself territory.

206 Merry Christmas, all. Off to the Christmas pageant at church. Heading to ATL in the morning to "celebrate" the day with the Obamabot sib in-laws.

I'll spend the day in a corner, curbing the urge to choke everyone in the room. Nothing says "Merry Christmas" like having to suppress rage all day. Gah.

Hope you all have a safe and happy day tomorrow.

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Got a blizzard moving  into OK tomorrow.  Good  times.

207 Posted by: @PurpAv at December 24, 2012 03:45 PM (8AF5n)

Agreed.

And the ink-stained finger is only as good as the nearest PhD chemist who can mix a good solvent.

208 "The one take-away is that the establishment GOP is our enemy, or at the very least has an agenda that is anathema to small government and conservatism. "


The idea that the people want conservatism/libertarianism but does't because of a massive conspiracy from our own side is a conspiracy theory.  America wants Obama because its dumb and it's the path of least resistance and, oh by the way, it's wanted bigger government for over 80 years.  The best we can hope for is that something happens between now and 2016 that even the media can't hide that shakes the country up.  I don't think the "let's capture the media!" idea proposed by Ace has a chance because the Right is lazy when it comes to culture.

209 When the Democrats are losing the vote stealing war, vote integrity will become the number one issue in the media and the government. At which point we will have a sliver of a chance of fixing it. Not before.

210 Posted by: Soona at December 24, 2012 04:28 PM (mxRtd)

Maybe it will get there sooner.

In time for Christmas.

I'm here 'til Thursday. Try the veal!

211

Posted by: MrX at December 24, 2012 04:23 PM (PxmNZ)

 

I agree. We need a candidate who will call out the enemies of America in no uncertain terms. Quit mincing words, and level hard-hitting accusations. Romney was too nice a guy; he should have accused Obama personally of malfeasance, and cited Fast and Furious, and later the Benghazi Bungling, on a daily basis, and hung both around Barry's skinny neck.

212 Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, South Carolina, and Tennessee. In that order.

213 Yeah, because people that "don't want to be president"... run... TWICE!!

214 It doesn't matter who you run. Losing is assured.

215 197 Trying to reform the Republican party is probably the best way forward. Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 24, 2012 04:12 PM (T0lrq) I was a Libertarian Party member before I was a Republican (and a Democrat before that, but the less said about that the better). The L's lost me after 9/11. I also came to the conclusion that the way to go was to reform the Republican Party. After more than a decade, I see little sign of progress toward that end. I feel like I'm politically homeless now.

216 And the ink-stained finger is only as good as the nearest PhD chemist who can mix a good solvent.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 24, 2012 04:30 PM (GsoHv)

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Hell, an undergrad chemistry student could do that. Nothing to it. Might need a reducing or oxidizing agent for some inks, and that would necessitate a certain degree of expertise to a) realize and b) select.

217 My hand hurts from scrolling on the iPhone. I'm taking a break. Flame away with impunity. Whoever I don't see before tomorrow: God bless you and your family, and grant you a blessed, serene day tomorrow.

218 I have to believe that people claiming to want some New Model Romney instead of an actual conservative aren't even on the right at all.  Not even a little bit.

It's one thing to see people fight over who's a stronger conservative, Jim Demint or Allen West, but it's beyond stupid to see people thinking we need a Perry, Bush, or some other Rovian wet dream.  That's solid "moby" territory.

I've never been a single-issue voter until now.  Now it's Restoration, or get the hell out of the way.  If a guy can't explain the Constitution's original intent, and point out that that's exactly why we made the world more prosperous and free, then that guy is not qualified to run for anything other than the Dem nomination.

219 I took this to mean that he wasn't looking at the job as a labor of love. Frankly, in my mind, this gives Romney more credibility than I previously gave him credit for. Who the hell would want to go to work everyday with a bunch of egomaniacal a-holes? No sane person.

220 . I don't think the "let's capture the media!" idea proposed by Ace has a chance because the Right is lazy when it comes to culture.

Posted by: Shoot Me at December 24, 2012 04:30 PM (qiXMt)

 

 

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The right is lazy?  That's bullshit.  The "Right" are the only ones that are working.   It's probably one of the reasons we don't see counterparts for Code Pink or the SEIU.   We can't spare the  time  even  when we want to.

221 That's why I added "when it comes to culture."  The Right seems to be content about whining about bias without actually doing anything.  We lost a winnable election because the Left painted us as crazy conspiracy-theory women hating dog abusing binder-havers.  We can bitch about it (sorta) privately here but we get our ass kicked on any other bulletin board.

222

  Truman North I am with you..... I'm just throwing out some ideas on how the republican governors can start to deal with these problems right. fucking. now.... before the next election.  Passing bills to combat voter fraud two weeks before an election is too late as the left will file a lawsuit and the left will get a lefty judge to overrule the law or place it on a shelf to be looked at later after the left has commited massive voter fraud once again. 

 

  The 30 republican governors need to take care of this now.  Before 2014.  before 2016.  Now.  When they are in power in their states.... so that they or another republican could possibly win another elections someday at the national level.  It's not gonna happen with the leathal combination of a leftist media and leftist voter fraud in all the swing states.  Start reform now in red states and move it to purple states when given the chance and eventually to blue states ( there are plenty of people in blue states that voted against the JEF that can petition and protest for successful anti-voter fraud laws that were passed in other states)

 

  The republicans also need to have some libertarian party type immediately file suit against their voter fraud laws and take it before a conservative judge who will then declare it constitutional.... thereby beating the left to the punch.  Avoiding the shelving of the new anti-vote fraud law... Start playing dirty like the left.   That's the only way to beat them at this political game.

223 229 Soona I've said for a long time that the left has a built-in advantage, precisely because they believe that government is the be-all and end-all. So they focus on politics 24/7. The rest of us just wish government would leave us alone, and would rather devote our time to our jobs, families, and hobbies.

224 "I don't think the "let's capture the media!" idea proposed by Ace has a chance because the Right is lazy when it comes to culture."
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"The right is lazy? That's bullshit."
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Lazy isn't really the right word. Chickenshit is better. Look at the Derbyshire incident, the mainstream conservative blogs couldn't condemn him fast enough. For what? Speaking some absolute truths that the now "liberal GOP" doesn't want to hear.

225 My friends, you have nothing to fear from a 2nd term of Mr. Obama.

226 I think it was true...in 2009.  By 2011, he was just as eager as in 2008.

My takeaway from that story is simple: He overestimated the American people.

There was a time when stupid people (a) realized they were stupid, even though they had a college degree and (b) accepted that they didn't have enough knowledge to participate effectively in the electoral process.

Now we have wussmanities majors who think they're smarter than the founders.

227 I tend to not believe this...When he first moved to California I actually thought he'd run for Governor.    P.S.   Did anyone else see him and Ann at the National Finals Rodeo?!  It was a trip.

228

"I don't think they have any more Magic Negros in the wings for 2016."

 

Did someone page me? 

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Romney saw the visceral hatred that most of America had for his signature program; the one the JEF and his minions "modeled" their morphodite healthcare program on. He's a NE establishment RINO and I'm sure the though of getting his ass kicked relentlessly wasn't something be looked forward to. Having said all that he knew what he was getting in to when he threw his hat into ring. And sorry son, if daddy had second thoughts after committing, well suck it up princess because a lot of us were counting on him to go the distance with all he had. Because that's what a leader does....ass monkey.

 

Fuck the Republican Party "leadership".

230 We need an Allen West. A man who takes the MSM and kicks them in the balls while laughing. I am so tired of Republican "moderates" getting nominated. Let's get a Righty!

231 138 So..... first three republican primaries held in..... 1. Texas 2. Mississippi and 3. Nebraska?.... I don't give a shit what two or three red states hold the first primaries just as long as Iowa and New Hampshire are fucking out of the running for the rest of time. Those two states fucking suck ass at picking front runners... Iowa is sucking at the government mandate etheanole titte and New Hampshire is a northeastern clusterfuck big government true believer... oh and the RNC better make sure that starting right now there is registered republicans only voting in the primaries.... who the hell thinks it's a good idea to have dems voting for the republican nominee..... oh yeah, dems do....so, do the opposite of what dems want then eh? Duh. Yes, Red States should have the first primaries. Perry could have won the Latino vote, because of in state tuition in TX. But Iowa cares about the ethanol subsidy and Perry said he'd stop it. Other than a few bad debate performances, what else killed his chances? The subsidy, they did not want it cut. NH is where the people that are sick of this state, MA, move to get out of here. A lot of them are liberals that are sick of Deval Patrick and the unions controlling everything here but are libs at heart. They voted for the most moderate republican. Closed republican primaries has to be first on the list, unless republicans can vote in dem primaries. No unenrolled, independents, or what ever each state calls them should be able to vote in republican primaries. That's why they are called republican primaries.

232 I would like to kick Perry's back specialist in the nuts. Merry Christmas! Posted by: Y-not at December 24, 2012 03:02 PM (5H6zj) I had neck surgery twice, once in 2000 and again in 2004. The first one was very painful but I was back at work in two weeks. The second knocked the hell out of me. I had it a week after the 2004 election and couldn't work a full day until February. I worked from home for a few hours and rested and would go to the office to do things I could only do at the office. My surgeon told me the longer you are under anesthesia the longer it takes to recover. I was out five hours the second time, it may have been longer, it's been eight years now. I'm sure the surgeries I had were similar to what Perry had. I had fusions. I think Perry had a back fusion. Of all the candidates on the stage, Perry was the only one that had a genuine smile and sunny optimistic attitude, despite being in pain. We need someone next time that's got the sunny attitude like Reagan, IMO Perry is the only one that had it last year.

233 I love the "Never again." message. It is true, and from the heart. Posted by: Invictus at December 24, 2012 04:02 PM (OQpzc) Invictus-I will vote in the general for the R but may not if he's a moderate. I may sit it out because my vote doesn't count because I live in Massachusetts. Truman sent me an email the other day, my local rep in MA has to resign January 1, he was caught, with guess what? Fraudulent votes! At least we'll be rid of that jerk but in my district they'll vote for another jerk to replace him. I live in a small city near Boston. I can't wait to see who we're going to have as a "seat warmer" for Kerry if he is confirmed at SOS. I have been stuck with him as one of my senators my entire voting life. Good riddance to him too! Scott Brown may have kept his seat if he was not a moderate republican, he should have a D after his name. Lots of people call the local radio station unhappy with Brown's votes, rather did. We have conservatives here, we just keep it quiet, to paraphrase Clint Eastwood.

234 The fact that anyone thinks a true conservative can win in MA is as stupid as Aces belief that Romney would win

235 Jeb Bush apparently wants the 2016 nomination so it's going to be Jeb Bush. Remember, everybody but Romney suspended their campaign for lack of money months before Romney sewed up the delegates.

236 233 Lazy isn't really the right word. Chickenshit is better. Look at the Derbyshire incident, the mainstream conservative blogs couldn't condemn him fast enough. For what? Speaking some absolute truths that the now "liberal GOP" doesn't want to hear. - Exactly.

237

I cry bullshit but if true then why did Romney even bother. 

 

As for 2016 The republican establishment will try a trifecta and try to run Lynsdey Graham or Huckabee or some other notable RINO.

Maybe after the US is totally destroyed by socialism the republican heirarchy will sit back and wonder why their grand candidates didnt work.