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August 23, 2012

Romney: I Intend To Spur The US Into An "Energy Superpower"
— Ace

He has this bizarre arch-conservative idea that we get growth and jobs from producing things, rather than restraining and sabotaging production.

Sounds crazy. I'll wait for Paul Krugman to knock holes in it before I accept this preposterous notion.

Posted by: Ace at 03:42 PM | Comments (167)
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1 This Romney guy sounds all right. Any chance we can get him to run for something?

Posted by: AmishDude at August 23, 2012 03:43 PM (xSegX)

2 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 23, 2012 03:43 PM (6o4Fb)

3 numero uno

Posted by: eureka! at August 23, 2012 03:43 PM (1qHOu)

4 not

Posted by: eureka! at August 23, 2012 03:43 PM (1qHOu)

5 You mean,having excess energy production that you can sell is a good thing??

Posted by: steevy at August 23, 2012 03:43 PM (6o4Fb)

6 Romney is tied with Obama in the latest poll. So much for the VP bounce. Suck it, wingers.

Posted by: Greg at August 23, 2012 03:44 PM (qZXps)

7 numero unoPosted by: eureka!

Was that your Obama impersonation?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 23, 2012 03:44 PM (Q/1Jp)

8 That's just crazy talk. Stupid wingers!

Posted by: eastvalleyphx assumes he needs no sarc tag at August 23, 2012 03:45 PM (GRvW4)

9 I really, really like the idea of turning over exploration contracts over to the control of states.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 23, 2012 03:45 PM (zrpqj)

10 The legitimate rape of Gaia should be outlawed.

Posted by: Rapin Akin at August 23, 2012 03:46 PM (wUFaM)

11 I like it. Rape, rape ANWR and offshore. /lib speak. Seriously, the goonions would be behind such a platform as well (although I am sure that Mitt has some ideas in store for them--in due course). Public employee unions, fuck them fast and furious with a flaming pineapple--sideways and twice for good measure.

Posted by: eureka! at August 23, 2012 03:46 PM (1qHOu)

I wont believe it until I hear Biden scream it, imbecicly.

Posted by: Up up with people! at August 23, 2012 03:46 PM (kzFo5)

13 Can someone please post a link to this Romney fellow's newsletter? Sounds interesting!

Posted by: jakeman at August 23, 2012 03:47 PM (96M6e)

14 The devil, you say.

Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 03:47 PM (P6QsQ)

15 He's got it all wrong. Jobs that cost everyone money indefinitely are to be preferred over jobs that help corporations (ugh) profit. If we just make energy much harder to come by, we'll have to create millions of jobs to get it! (I can't bring myself to do a President Obama sock, so, sarcasm off.)

Posted by: JPS at August 23, 2012 03:47 PM (d3Y2J)

16 I have a power plant in my pants for Romney Ryan and its ready to start spittin out low cost energy all night long.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 23, 2012 03:47 PM (ovpNn)

17 This Romney whom I detested during the primaries seems to be saying all the right things - at least for the present. Okay, Mitt. You got me!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 23, 2012 03:48 PM (akGKT)

18 Was that your Obama impersonation?Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 23, 2012 07:44 PM

Nah. Just trying to be diverse and inclusive. Use ace's blog to show we're not racists. So tire of denouncing myself in word and thought. ~sigh~

Posted by: eureka! at August 23, 2012 03:48 PM (1qHOu)

19 "romney for legitimate rape of the gaia" - proggtard

Posted by: newrouter at August 23, 2012 03:48 PM (kfeRL)

20 I'm a fucking Admiral, a SEAL, dammit, not a "General" you fucking Corpse-man.

Obama refers to Admiral McRaven, as "General McRaven".

http://tinyurl.com/busotuh

Posted by: ADMIRAL McRaven at August 23, 2012 03:48 PM (T3Dw+)

21 That's an idea so crazy it just might work!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 - Feel the burn! at August 23, 2012 03:48 PM (Gk3SS)

22 Hey Gabe, how come there's not a Tweet button on your article?

Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 03:49 PM (P6QsQ)

23 Mitt Romneys gonna put the CHAINS of employment on ya's.

Posted by: Biden at August 23, 2012 03:49 PM (kzFo5)

24 How about just changing laws so bullshit organizations like the sierra club don't have standing to sue every time an oil company wants to produce some crude oil?

Posted by: Brenden at August 23, 2012 03:49 PM (jAXyw)

25 BUT WHY DOES ROMNEY HATE THE EARTH????

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone doofus at August 23, 2012 03:49 PM (NB3rH)

26 The next big bubble, energy independence by fully utilizing our natural resources.

This massive economic growth will lead to the next bubble, revitalization of the space program.

and from there its all up up up.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 23, 2012 03:49 PM (ovpNn)

27 Energy superpower? It'll never happen without us.

Posted by: Barry's friends at Big Algae at August 23, 2012 03:49 PM (wAQA5)

28 "romney for legitimate rape of the gaia" - proggtard

Posted by: newrouter at August 23, 2012 07:48 PM (kfeRL)

Rape, my ass. Look at that ozone layer she's wearing. She's askin' for it.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx assumes he needs no sarc tag at August 23, 2012 03:49 PM (GRvW4)

29 He wants to rape you with a job!!

Posted by: Biden at August 23, 2012 03:50 PM (kzFo5)

30 Former Enron Financial Adviser Paul Krugman.

Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at August 23, 2012 03:50 PM (QupBk)

31 Btw, I had an odd reaction today where I heard some bad economic news on Fox News and I reflexively thought "uh-oh. That's not good news for Romney." I think Team Obama's strategy to runas a challenger against the "Romney/Bush" incumbent is sneaking past my blood brain barrier.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 23, 2012 03:50 PM (zrpqj)

32 The propeller on Biden's head has already increased American energy production by 15%.

Posted by: Barky O'Dogeater at August 23, 2012 03:50 PM (QKKT0)

33 Oh noes, oilz evil. I bet Romney is being run by those criminals at Haliburton. He wants to poison our water and kill our children. He doesn't care about shrews or minnows who might be displaced by energy production.

I think that about covers it, no need for rottingcrotch to comment.

Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 03:50 PM (/YJYi)

34 Amen. I have had my doubts about Romney in the past, but I back his energy plan 100%. Weird how he has seemed more conservative *after* the primaries than during . . .

Posted by: logprof at August 23, 2012 03:51 PM (Khf/F)

If we are energy independent, what reason would the Saudi's have to bribe the US State Department?

Think of all those cool think tank jobs for retired dept of State employees that would end. Oh, the humanity. Next thing you know, the Dept of State might advance US Interests instead of theirs.

Posted by: rd at August 23, 2012 03:51 PM (9sUlj)

36 Why, he is just as crazy as Akin. It can't possibly be done.

Posted by: MSM at August 23, 2012 03:51 PM (wUFaM)

37 31 Former Enron Financial Adviser Paul Krugman. Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook

Paul Krugman looks like the Hobbit Gandalf passed over on his way to Bilbo's House, and apparently he is still pissed about it.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 23, 2012 03:52 PM (ovpNn)

38 You crazy conservatives. You think that energy production will help turn the economy around. I'm telling you, alien invasion. It would solve all our problems.

Posted by: Paul Krugman at August 23, 2012 03:52 PM (/YJYi)

39 Don't forget, progress towards energy independence = we get to cut off the ME 1st if so desired, while still buying from Canada or other more friendly states.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at August 23, 2012 03:52 PM (RRlac)

40 Wait, I'm thinking that if manufacturing can get cheap energy it might lead to growth in that sector. And if more people are working they'll have more money to spend. And if gas and diesel are less expensive then the price of goods that have to be shipped, and what goods don't have to be shipped, will be cheaper and and people will be able to buy more stuff. That could lead to a rise in manufacturing meaning, more jobs. And that could lead to.... This guy just might be onto something.

Posted by: teej at August 23, 2012 03:52 PM (ma+gB)

This is fucking crazy talk.

Posted by: Soona at August 23, 2012 03:52 PM (9jQZ7)

42 Squirt!

Posted by: ANWAR at August 23, 2012 03:52 PM (QupBk)

43 teej -

that's crazy talk

Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 03:53 PM (P6QsQ)

44 That only works for places like Brazil.

Posted by: joethefatmanï¿½ (@joethefatman1) at August 23, 2012 03:53 PM (MnSla)

45 I can haz hydrocarbons?

Posted by: Thorvald at August 23, 2012 03:53 PM (1V6Pv)

46 Sure Soona. Steal my thoughts. Go ahead.

Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 03:53 PM (P6QsQ)

Who really wants all of those high paying energy jobs and the spin off jobs the employed people would create?

And seriously, don't you all know that it would take years, YEARS for any of these projects to come online.

We can't do this. Oil is Mother Earth's lube!!

/sarc

Posted by: Stateless_Infidel at August 23, 2012 03:53 PM (8UijS)

48 He's not going to be able to do anything since I fucked up our chances of re-taking the senate

Posted by: Clod Akin at August 23, 2012 03:53 PM (Yhu4q)

49 I have it on good authority that welfare checks are a better stimulus than these "jobs" you are talking about.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 23, 2012 03:53 PM (imtbm)

50 Biden suggests we really amp-up wind production by making gas-fueled, high speed windmills.

Posted by: nickless at August 23, 2012 03:54 PM (MMC8r)

51 This flies in the face of Obama's "Lloyd Dobler" economic theories

Posted by: Truman North at August 23, 2012 03:54 PM (I2LwF)

52 40 Wait, I'm thinking that if manufacturing can get cheap energy it might lead to growth in that sector.
And if more people are working they'll have more money to spend.
And if gas and diesel are less expensive then the price of goods that have to be shipped, and what goods don't have to be shipped, will be cheaper and and people will be able to buy more stuff.
That could lead to a rise in manufacturing meaning, more jobs.
And that could lead to....

This guy just might be onto something. Posted by: teej at August

The one thing i never see them talk about is that when we invest in our own energy production the money we spend on not only developing the industry but also purchasing the product stays in our economy.

When we buy oil from overseas, that money goes out of our economy.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 23, 2012 03:54 PM (ovpNn)

53 >>Weird how he has seemed more conservative *after* the primaries than during . . . Funny thing is he said all this stuff during the primary.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 03:54 PM (TMB3S)

A job is like a ball and chain for minorities.

Posted by: MSM at August 23, 2012 03:54 PM (wUFaM)

55 You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a windmill or solar panel behind every blade of grass.

Posted by: Energy Minister Yamamoto at August 23, 2012 03:55 PM (6WVi+)

56 39 Don't forget, progress towards energy independence = we get to cut off the ME 1st if so desired, while still buying from Canada or other more friendly states. Posted by: StPatrick_TN at August 23, 2012 07:52 PM (RRlac) Ok, but would you be against importing ME crude oil only to refine it and then sell it back to the ME countries at a profit?

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 23, 2012 03:55 PM (zrpqj)

Wow, that Romney guy is such an idiot, isn't he? He thinks that the presence of abundant, cheap energy will stimulate the economy and job growth.

Posted by: Marmo at August 23, 2012 03:55 PM (pcgW1)

58 heads up, Paul Ryan being interviewed on Larry Kudlow show Funny, Kudlow's bringing up an austin gooolsesby op ed where he gets specific with numbers. Ryan says "I haven't seen it but" and Kudlow continues to push. this interview is starting to fall into the "with friends like these, who needs enemies category, yet, Ryan, who has guest hosted squawk box a lot over the last year and said all of this, is really hitting it out of the ball park.

Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 03:56 PM (oZfic)

59 This shit will never work.

Posted by: VP Solndra Sales & Marketing at August 23, 2012 03:56 PM (PTS+l)

60 It sounds nice. But we're going to have to do some forced cleaning in our federal court system. Does anyone realize the number of lawsuits by the envirowhacktards this is going to cause? The leftists still have many weapons to thwart US prosperity.

Posted by: Soona at August 23, 2012 03:57 PM (9jQZ7)

61 Ok i have thought about it and its really a terrible idea.

I think it makes more sense to invest in solar panels and windpower.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 23, 2012 03:57 PM (ovpNn)

62 Hmmm, an energ plan, AND he has presidential hair! That's a tough combination.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 23, 2012 03:57 PM (hgSh3)

63 Hm. I'm pretty sure Americans work that one. Not Muzzie animals.

Posted by: Utica/Marcellus Superformation at August 23, 2012 03:57 PM (TPCyc)

An...."Energy Superpower"?

That is sure to send the libprogs to the fainting couches.

It's like...a twofer.

He's said the word 'Energy' and 'Superpower'....*gasp*....together.

Posted by: wheatie at August 23, 2012 03:58 PM (mtRB0)

65 Paul Ryan will power generators with forceful pelvic thrusts.

Posted by: nickless at August 23, 2012 03:58 PM (MMC8r)

66 Advice needed: Does this mean I should go back to encouraging soon-to-be-college-student jakeson to going into an oil/gas/mining field instead of finding a sit-on-his-ass gubmint job?

Posted by: jakeman at August 23, 2012 03:58 PM (96M6e)

67 Ok, but would you be against importing ME crude oil only to refine it and then sell it back to the ME countries at a profit?

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 23, 2012 07:55 PM (zrpqj)

I'd rather see domestically produced refined petroleum products sold to them, but in the meantime, of course not. We have the raw materials and refining capacity, and should take advantage of both. If there's an interim period where we sell them back their oil after our expertise and hard work make it useable, we should certainly take advantage. Look at Iran - there's way more leverage, politically, in refined products than in crude, since the capacity is so much more scarce.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at August 23, 2012 03:59 PM (RRlac)

68 Sweep the leg, Paul.

Posted by: toby928© at August 23, 2012 03:59 PM (QupBk)

69 It should be a keystone piece of his campaign, shared side-by-side with repealing ObamaCare to save Medicare, and it should be repeated in every ad spot for the next seventy-some days. Winning!!!11!

Posted by: The littl shyning man at August 23, 2012 03:59 PM (uhW+R)

Weird how he has seemed more conservative *after* the primaries than during . . .

Yep it's almost like he had a plan or something

Posted by: Finn McCool at August 23, 2012 03:59 PM (R/8dI)

71 >>>Ok, but would you be against importing ME crude oil only to refine it and then sell it back to the ME countries at a profit? Until we have a real prospect of an alternative, I support buying as much of their oil as we can. Hopefully they will run out and go back to being as important as pre WWI Arabia.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at August 23, 2012 04:00 PM (6/Mnv)

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 23, 2012 04:00 PM (Q/1Jp)

73 66 Paul Ryan will power generators with forceful pelvic thrusts.

Posted by: nickless

That really drives them insaaaane

Posted by: joethefatmanï¿½ (@joethefatman1) at August 23, 2012 04:00 PM (MnSla)

74 The Romney v4.2 firmware is impressive.

Posted by: toby928© at August 23, 2012 04:00 PM (QupBk)

75 Creating jobs? That sounds like Creationism. And I'm pretty sure that's Christian. And Mormons are kinda like Christians in that they want to enslave you. So you see? Creating things like jobs is bad.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 23, 2012 04:01 PM (GEICT)

76 You oppressors are raping Gaia and forcing all the enlightened non-hierarchical diverse cultures to be oppressed by your anlgo-normative patriarchy! You just want to poison Gaia with that evil poison CO2!! And all those evil corporations will make a lot of money and do evil corporation things! SOCIAL JUSTICE and ECONOMIC JUSTICE and ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE dictates that we should deindustrialize and grow organic fruits and marijuana locally and then we'd live in harmony with Gaia and there would be non-hierarchical horizontal communes where all the oppressed people will live in harmony and we'll be free to find ourselves and raise awareness! With all the evil corporations money redisctributed to the oppresses people we will all live a wonderful life with iPads and Volts for everyone!!1! No Justice no Peace!!!~!!1 No Justice no Peace!!!~!!1 No Justice no Peace!!!~!!1

Posted by: Social SCIENCE Graduate Student at August 23, 2012 04:01 PM (sZTYJ)

We just need to hire moar teachers, cops and firefighters

Also forgive college loans, because you know all these thing stimulate the economy.....

Fucking idiot libs kill me.

Posted by: Finn McCool at August 23, 2012 04:02 PM (R/8dI)

78 Errr, I meant to do that.

Michael "Hockey Schtick" Mann said he really intends to sue National Review over Steyn's critical article.

SHIT STATUS: Firming with outlook REAL.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 23, 2012 04:02 PM (Q/1Jp)

79 I know it's early in the thread to go O/T, but I just ran across this, and it's pretty cool, in an inspirational way, for our combat wounded: http://tinyurl.com/d4outjz

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at August 23, 2012 04:02 PM (RRlac)

"It should be a keystone piece of his campaign.."

icwutudidthere.com

Posted by: VP Solyndra Sales & Marketing at August 23, 2012 04:02 PM (PTS+l)

81 You crazy conservatives. You think that energy production will help turn the economy around. I'm telling you, alien invasion. It would solve all our problems. Posted by: Paul Krugman at August 23, 2012 07:52 PM (/YJYi) The answer is always "aliens"...

Posted by: Giorgio Tsoukalos at August 23, 2012 04:03 PM (sZTYJ)

82 Michael "Hockey Schtick" Mann said he really intends to sue National Review over Steyn's critical article. I'm a bitch.

Posted by: Discovery at August 23, 2012 04:03 PM (QupBk)

83 >>>Michael "Hockey Schtick" Mann said he really intends to sue National Review over Steyn's critical article. The discovery on all his files should be fun.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at August 23, 2012 04:04 PM (6/Mnv)

Michael "Hockey Schtick" Mann said he really intends to sue National Review over Steyn's critical article.

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I have a feeling that Steyn might be looking foward to that.

Posted by: Soona at August 23, 2012 04:05 PM (9jQZ7)

52....When we buy oil from overseas, that money goes out of our economy.

No revenue from the purchase of it.

No revenue from the income from it.

No revenue from the withholding of Soc/Sec or Medicare, from the jobs created by pulling it from the ground.

Yep.

Buying our energy from overseas makes all kind of sense, doesn't it.

To liberals, that is.

Drilling for Oil....here....is a revenue-multiplyer.

Same with Natural Gas.

It creates revenue...that creates more revenue...and keeps those dollars from being sucked out of the country.

Posted by: wheatie at August 23, 2012 04:05 PM (mtRB0)

86 >>>Firming with outlook REAL. It ain't real until he gets the discovery and doesn't drop suit right there.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at August 23, 2012 04:06 PM (6/Mnv)

Posted by: Discovery at August 23, 2012 08:03 PM (QupBk)

Waaaaarrrrrrmmmmissssstttttssss! Come out to pllllllaaaaaaaaayyyyy!

Posted by: StPatrick_TN doing the obligatory thing at August 23, 2012 04:06 PM (RRlac)

If you guys can just hook us up with another very small cash infusion ($300-400M at most), we can finally end our crushing need for oil. Seriously, it's gonna work this time....and we'll one day pay you back in spades!

...oh, and the environment stuff too.

Posted by: VP Solyndra Sales & Marketing at August 23, 2012 04:07 PM (PTS+l)

89 85 I have a feeling that Steyn might be looking forward to that. Based on the fact that Steyn's FB feed has been all-Mann, all the time, the past few days, methinks you're right.

Posted by: jakeman at August 23, 2012 04:08 PM (96M6e)

@86-"Drilling for Oil....here....is a revenue-multiplyer. "

*****************

But wait, didn't N. Pelosi tell us that unemployment insurance was a revenue multiplier? Could she have been wrong?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 23, 2012 04:09 PM (hgSh3)

91 Here it is folks.

Mitt has the ONLY path to true recovery we have.

No bullshit, no lies.

The US HAS GOT TO GROW.

We need to crank the EPA regs back to 1994, and we need to beat the Sauds' heada in with shale. We relax our debt load selling shale oil to the chinese and others, and renew investment in a new industrial age in the US. Growth, youeither want it or you don't.

Me I want it so I maxed my donations to Mitt.

I hope you give what you can your vote, your smile and peer presure, your time volunteering, your money whatever you can.

The schools are turning out kids who will need trained and need taught how to work.

If we as a nation wait too much longer you boomers who remember who we used to be will be gone like our grandpas are. We need your memories of when we were mighty. Together anything is possible.

By God I am an American, and when we see a problem we are supposed to look hard and say "We are Americans and we do MIGHTY THINGS."

Keep the faith and on to victory.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 04:09 PM (LRFds)

92 Me mama winger? Crazy talk? You know that's my middle name around here. @52 Great point Mr Gosh Darn. Soona too. Hell Mitt, we got a start on your economic council right here. But we need a czar for it. No wait. Not a czar, an economic emporer. I nominate Monty! Our Economic Minister of Anti-Doom!!!

Posted by: teej at August 23, 2012 04:09 PM (erYRT)

93 @85 Lowry laid a big Fuck off post on Mann today....NRO is basically daring him to take them to court over this nonsense

Posted by: Finn McCool at August 23, 2012 04:09 PM (R/8dI)

94 heh heh nice intro Ace! ;-)

Posted by: sonnyspats at August 23, 2012 04:10 PM (Bm4aK)

95 No bullshit, no lies. The US HAS GOT TO GROW. Yep. We are still going to take a beating but we can grow our way out of this clusterfuck of miserable failure.

Posted by: toby928© pushes the tag at August 23, 2012 04:10 PM (QupBk)

96 Cock!

Posted by: Greg at August 23, 2012 04:10 PM (Z3bkC)

97 Advice needed: Does this mean I should go back to encouraging soon-to-be-college-student jakeson to going into an oil/gas/mining field instead of finding a sit-on-his-ass gubmint job?

Posted by: jakeman at August 23, 2012 07:58 PM (96M6e)

I have a brother in the oil and gas services biz who is recruiting at engineering schools with an offer of $120k to start.

They are turning him down

Posted by: Bud Tuggley at August 23, 2012 04:10 PM (Yhu4q)

67Advice needed: Does this mean I should go back to encouraging soon-to-be-college-student jakeson to going into an oil/gas/mining field instead of finding a sit-on-his-ass gubmint job?

Posted by: jakeman at August 23, 2012 07:58 PM (96M6e)

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I would say that depends entirely on how the election turns out.

Posted by: wheatie at August 23, 2012 04:11 PM (mtRB0)

99 Since the last party to sue Steyn was Canada, Mann might be coming in a little on the comical side.

Posted by: nickless at August 23, 2012 04:11 PM (MMC8r)

100 96 Toby,

Word of mouth brother.....

we have 700 times the petro chem potential of the Sauds and those mother fucking hippies want to keep it from us....

Let America Work

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 04:12 PM (LRFds)

101 6Romney is tied with Obama in the latest poll. So much for the VP bounce. Suck it, wingers.

Posted by: Greg at August 23, 2012 07:44 PM (qZXps

Oh well there you go if Romney is tied to Obama in any fashion then I'm leaning into the Paul revolt vote column.

Posted by: Hooray for Me Fuck You Dick in the ass indie voter asshole at August 23, 2012 04:13 PM (Bm4aK)

102 CNN reports, with dewy brows and clammy hands, of a split between Ultra and Arch-conservatives. Can this tenuous alliance hold?!

Posted by: derit at August 23, 2012 04:14 PM (ruiF1)

103

I can not believe Romney is not going to try out algea first before jumping right into things we know will work. Rediculous.

Posted by: Up! Up with people! at August 23, 2012 04:14 PM (kzFo5)

104 I know, Wheatie, I know. I shouldn't get too excited yet. But I sure would like to be able to point him toward a stat like Bud Tuggley mentioned at 98. As for jakegirl, she's determined to be an orthodontist, which should be fine either way. During our year in "free healthcare" Canada (2007), the orthodontist appeared to be the richest guy in town, because he's outside the system.

Posted by: jakeman at August 23, 2012 04:16 PM (96M6e)

105 102

Word of mouth is gonna tell those unemployed kids that when the dogeater was just a mealy mouthed punk I could drive across the country on 150 bucks....

Your death cult is trying to steal 130-300 trillion dollars of wealth potential and turn it into a rock farm......

The kids like Xboxes, cars, and houses....I will beat you, because all one man's greed is is another man's opportunity.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 04:16 PM (LRFds)

106 The US is already the #1 energy producer in the world. #1 in coal and natural gas #3 in crude oil #2 in green

Posted by: Mary Jane Rottencrotch at August 23, 2012 04:17 PM (pqYYP)

107 This new programming they're uploading to Mittens is good. But even so, I'm still not altering course like that wimpy hurricane.

Posted by: SMOD for the People at August 23, 2012 04:18 PM (zpqa2)

108 Scientific fact: one gram of 100% pure Unicorn fart can power a typical home for 10 years.

Advantage Obama.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 04:19 PM (Pbwe7)

109 >>>The US is already the #1 energy producer in the world. No reason we can't be better. We need to cut out that worthless green stuff, until the $/kWh comes down a bunch and concentrate on that cheap ng and coal

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at August 23, 2012 04:20 PM (6/Mnv)

110 Ya'll better do sumthin soon cause the Feds done been blowing holes in all the coal fired boilers round these parts.

Posted by: inconspiquous West Virginia Moonshiner who knos boilers at August 23, 2012 04:21 PM (Bm4aK)

111

I think that the commie progressives have always had the long term plan....to nationalize all of our natural resources.

What better way to do that...than to help nudge the price of gas up to $6....$7....$8....?

Then, when people are screaming..."Do something! Do something!"....they will say:

"Okay, for the good of the people, the government must seize control of the Oil Companies".

And when the Govt is the one in charge of drilling and fracking....whatcha bet the EPA will be told to go sit in the corner?

Posted by: wheatie at August 23, 2012 04:21 PM (mtRB0)

112 Is MJR trying to make some point? I can read the words, they appear to be in English, but they don't seem to say anything.

Posted by: toby928© pushes the tag at August 23, 2012 04:21 PM (QupBk)

113 108 MJR,

and world demand is through the roof, our demand is receding, and your boyfriend hates #1 and 2 on your list....

China will overtake us in production and use within the next ten years, maybe 6 if BAM! gets his way...."no"....

His time is up.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 04:21 PM (LRFds)

114 Green energy, so nice, you get to pay twice.

Posted by: nickless at August 23, 2012 04:21 PM (MMC8r)

115 6 Romney is tied with Obama in the latest poll. So much for the VP bounce. Suck it, wingers. Posted by: Greg at August 23, 2012 07:44 PM (qZXps) The thing that Greg "man-tits" Garg cannot comprehend is that at this point in 1980, Carter was 10 points up over Reagan...and we know how that worked out.

Posted by: Reagan's Warcock at August 23, 2012 04:22 PM (JCmjf)

116 114 Toby,

no grasping at straws it is all they have, and if High School kids learned about econ instead of gender awareness they'd be about to blow Ogabe's world up....

word of mouth, we have lost 15% of our lead in energy.....Jobs good jobs need energy.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 04:22 PM (LRFds)

117

Oh by the way thats how we spell inconspicuous round these parts

Posted by: inconspiquous West Virginia Moonshiner who knos boilers at August 23, 2012 04:23 PM (Bm4aK)

118 The "green stuff" is like playing blackjack with house money. It is win-win. California utilities get 20% of their power green with no future costs. I wish you Cons understood Econ.

Posted by: Mary Jane Rottencrotch at August 23, 2012 04:24 PM (pqYYP)

119 Is MJR trying to make some point? I can read the words, they appear to be in English, but they don't seem to say anything. Clarence pulls disassociated facts out of his Funk and Wagnalls Junior Encyclopedia and posts them hoping they're meaningful.

Posted by: nickless at August 23, 2012 04:24 PM (MMC8r)

120 First.

Posted by: Some Dumb Ass at August 23, 2012 04:24 PM (d/8+y)

121 The "green stuff" is like playing blackjack with ~~house~~ tax money.

Posted by: Clarence at August 23, 2012 04:25 PM (MMC8r)

122 Damn. Gotta plug the phone in and fix some dinner. And I've got this strange feeling you guys and gals are gonna stay on a roll. Love each other fellow babies.

Posted by: teej at August 23, 2012 04:26 PM (d4o2E)

123 113 wheatie,

well they'll get more relaxed....

what the Feds will do is steal the acquisition companies, they already have "claimed" all the remaining good fields to one degree or another, and states are not immune.

Ohio tried to amend the Constitution back a few years ago ostensibly because gold was found in the river I used to skinnydip in....about 50,000 bucks worth.

reality was they worded it so that if there was ANY question WRT mineral rights the Ohio State Legislature would get the leasing rights until the matter was resolved....

number one indicator for shale potential is old played out coal mines....

take a look at south central and eastern Ohio....

"exactly"

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 04:26 PM (LRFds)

124 110 Scientific fact: one gram of 100% pure Unicorn fart can power a typical home for 10 years.

Advantage Obama.
******************************** But you can't really maximize production without fracking the darned things.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 23, 2012 04:26 PM (hgSh3)

125 Does this mean I has to get a job?

Posted by: Peggy Joseph at August 23, 2012 04:29 PM (uBVzH)

126

Posted by: Boone Pickens at August 23, 2012 08:24 PM (hvwLi)

I hope that the real Boone Pickens has lost shitloads of money on his wind farm program.

He deserves it.

That "Energy Corridor" thing has caused homeowners to lose millions of dollars of value to their homes.....if they are unlucky enough to be in the path of it.

No one wants to live anywhere near that "Energy Corridor".

And woe be unto those who already do.

Posted by: wheatie at August 23, 2012 04:29 PM (mtRB0)

127 It is win-win. California utilities get 20% of their power green with no future costs. I wish you Cons understood Econ.

Posted by: Mary Jane Rottencrotch at August 23, 2012 08:24 PM (pqYYP)

Anyone with even a basic knowledge of basic economics would never make a statement that included "no future costs", knowing that it makes as much sense as "free". A complete fucking idiot, however, would have no difficulty doing so.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN doing the obligatory thing at August 23, 2012 04:30 PM (RRlac)

128 Hey we got 'book threads' in church cause the hymnals are from 1957 the year Elvis wuz drafted

Posted by: inconspiquous West Virginia Moonshiner who knos boilers at August 23, 2012 04:31 PM (Bm4aK)

129 Clarence pulls disassociated facts out of his Funk and Wagnalls Junior Encyclopedia and posts them hoping they're meaningful. Bless his heart.

Posted by: toby928© at August 23, 2012 04:31 PM (QupBk)

130 Well, there is maintenance, asshole. But the sun won't quit shining for millions of years and we are all dust.

Posted by: Mary Jane Rottencrotch at August 23, 2012 04:32 PM (pqYYP)

131 Remember when Clinton turned the world's largest reserve of clean burning coal in Utah into a national park and off limits to mining as a sop to some Indonesian coal magnate who dropped ~$20 million on the Clinton library? Miserable bastard.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at August 23, 2012 04:32 PM (6WVi+)

132 Obama refers to Admiral McRaven, as "General McRaven". Well, he also referred Congressman Akin as Senator Akin, bless his heart

Posted by: Ma Bell, now R squared at August 23, 2012 04:34 PM (uVuwp)

133

Posted by: Dr Fish at August 23, 2012 08:28 PM (hvwLi)

Serious! THAT is unpardonable. Rush was talking about the 'insestual 'relationships in the political class. All fuckin royalty wann-a-bees

Posted by: inconspiquous West Virginia Moonshiner who knos boilers at August 23, 2012 04:34 PM (Bm4aK)

134 Pickens energy corridor was more about getting right of way for the transmission lines and co-locating water pipelines to feed the DFW area. Yeah, we need juice but water's getting real scarce with all the folks moving here.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at August 23, 2012 04:34 PM (6WVi+)

135 You actually have to burn the gasoline in the engine to make the car move. Passing legislation to command the cars to move does not work. Despite what you may hear here and there.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 04:35 PM (Wp4rQ)

136
Unfortunately, the Romney definition of "energy superpower" is one that revolves around the continuation of insane ethanol subsidies and mandates.

However, Romney has said he will not renew expiring tax credits for wind farms, so that's one in the plus column.

And Ryan has at least deigned to mention nuclear power in his stump speech, so that's another plus.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 23, 2012 04:35 PM (ymG7s)

137 But I won't mention that you have to have a fossil fuel plant on standby for the times when it's dark and the wind doesn't blow.

Posted by: Clarence at August 23, 2012 04:35 PM (MMC8r)

138 136 BVO,

Yes immensely democrats are thieves....

you have the coal, and then what is below?

the shale.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 04:36 PM (LRFds)

139 But what about the Palesiniaaaaaaaaaaaans? And abortion due to raaaaaaaaaaaaape?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 23, 2012 04:36 PM (hSm+F)

140 Well, there is maintenance, asshole.

But the sun won't quit shining for millions of years and we are all dust.

Posted by: Mary Jane Rottencrotch at August 23, 2012 08:32 PM (pqYYP)

What time is sunset were you live?

Posted by: Ask the Ace of Spade Book Wonks at August 23, 2012 04:37 PM (Z3bkC)

141 Power density rules all.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 04:38 PM (Wp4rQ)

142 142 torquewrnch,

eh....

I wouldn't bet the house money on that about ethanol what he'll do I suspect is have a feed corn price trigger, and do away with 15% eth....

EPA is about to get kneed in the balls.

Bush was a pu**y with EPA

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 04:38 PM (LRFds)

143 Power density rules all. Word. It's either breaking chemical bonds or nuclei.

Posted by: nickless at August 23, 2012 04:39 PM (MMC8r)

144 137 Dr. Fish, maybe if they are smart they will auction off the equipment indexed to removal....

I'd buy one for my spread....wouldn't rely on it as primary.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 04:40 PM (LRFds)

145 140 BVO,

that's the other thing on Big Federales agenda....they want to steal the water from the landowners.....

"fair"....screw the US Government they can buy the land at fair market value....I'm really tired of the Keloization of our relationships.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 04:41 PM (LRFds)

146

150- Sven

Good thought- I could go for a gently used 50 gigawatt wind turbine for my off-grid place in the mtns. Wonder if the H.O.A. would go for it...hmmm

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 23, 2012 04:42 PM (hgSh3)

147 We must continue to burn food supplies such as corn for an automobile fuel source that no one buys. It will lead to more Sputnik moments of Winning the Future. If that fails, we will burn maple trees, which burn greenly.

Posted by: RottenLogic From Vermont at August 23, 2012 04:42 PM (zt7SE)

148 I second the emotion regarding boone pickens losing big in wind power. I loathe him.

Yes, it is really me. New laptop, so should be new hash.

Posted by: Will be taking applications and buying the love slaves nice things with my oil stock dividends after at August 23, 2012 04:43 PM (kXoT0)

149 No, same hash, hmm, why does smart phone get different one?

Posted by: Will be taking applications and buying the love slaves nice things with my oil stock dividends after at August 23, 2012 04:45 PM (kXoT0)

150 I can't wait for that new 747 jet plane they're building that will run totally on solar power. That will be super duper.

Posted by: Bob, the latent ghey who supports Obama at August 23, 2012 04:45 PM (uRumV)

151

The goal -- and this would put fear into all of the Russkies and Muslims - should be to become a NET energy EXPORTER in 5 years. (Hey Greenies... since the 3rd world can't afford to go green, then the U.S. should help them with cheap fossil fuels til they can develop their green tech too, no?)

By the way, as someone who is in the science of energy (moi), I can tell you that any significant move in which our energy is majority green-made is 20-30 years away from implementaion-- maybe even a decade or 2 more.

Posted by: john b at August 23, 2012 04:46 PM (e7dA9)

152

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 08:41 PM (LRFds)

I own the largest portion of water rights in Texas and am working on Arkansas. Diversify your portfolio young man. Also go long in Hydrogen futures

Posted by: Boone beleives in diversity just not your kind Pickens at August 23, 2012 04:50 PM (Bm4aK)

153 156 Hash is IP based. Accessing through the same router, same hash. If you'er smartphoning through 4G, it's a different connection than wireless.

Posted by: nickless at August 23, 2012 04:51 PM (MMC8r)

154 155 Dr. Fish,

they'll either own us or we'll already have 'em behind bars....that's where this is all heading

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 04:52 PM (LRFds)

155 I find it ironic that the party that supposedly loves science and derides SoCons for magical thinking about uteruses (uteri?) engages in so much magical thinking about energy and economics while ignoring things like basic physics.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 23, 2012 04:53 PM (hgSh3)

156 I like rape!

Posted by: Zombie Neville Brand at August 23, 2012 04:53 PM (Ki4rt)

157 158 John B,

I want to go back into space. Only way we can do that is with real wealth not funny money. The solar, nuclear, and fuel cell tech we'll need for "green" would be a nice ancillary benefit to a truly renewed space industry.

I miss an America that dreamt.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 04:54 PM (LRFds)

158 My plan will move America to Democrat-based sources of energy by 2019.

Posted by: BHO at August 23, 2012 04:55 PM (MMC8r)

159 156

Hash is IP based.

Accessing through the same router, same hash. If you'er smartphoning through 4G, it's a different connection than wireless.

Posted by: nickless at August 23, 2012 08:51 PM (MMC8r)

If I unplug my modem for ten seconds I'll get a new hash.

Posted by: YIKES! at August 23, 2012 04:58 PM (7NP4t)

160 If I unplug my modem for ten seconds I'll get a new hash. Posted by: YIKES! at August 23, 2012 08:58 PM (7NP4t) You've got a dynamic IP. Your ISP doesn't assign you one until your router logs on.

Posted by: nickless at August 23, 2012 05:02 PM (MMC8r)

161 "But the sun won't quit shining for millions of years and we are all dust. " What is the expected lifespan of solar cells? 50 years tops? What is the cost of recycling solar cells? No future cost? Right.

Posted by: McLovin' at August 23, 2012 05:09 PM (IO6Fu)

162

"I can't wait for that new 747 jet plane they're building that will run totally on solar power. That will be super duper."

Bob, don't be ignorant. The new "Solyndra 748" we are designing (ours is "one faster"....bullshit copyright laws anyway), runs on windpower. In flight, the propellers are turned by the the planes' slipstream, which generates power, which is used to turn the props! Can you say perpetual motion! ....and ZERO costs!

We just need to another cash infusion for R&D...and we can get this bitch airborne!

Posted by: VP Solyndra Sales & Marketing at August 23, 2012 05:18 PM (PTS+l)

163 Building an economy by creating products and services is more Republican crazy talk, the kind of thing that worked in the twentieth century but can never work again. The new way to wealth is to raise taxes and build a bigger government that can make a grand bargain with China. Our best hope is to petition China to become one of it's provinces.

Posted by: Tom Friedman at August 23, 2012 05:31 PM (ZZPs4)

164 More conservative hatred for our Mother Earth. Where will you be when we're out of fossil fuels and those swampy Southern states in which you fuck your sisters no longer have air conditioning in a time of global warming? "Relative humidity" will take on a whole new meaning as you sweat yourselves to death with your cousins and farm animals in your shanty-towns.

Only the wisdom of the Obama Administration's wise ecologically-minded policies can assure environmental justice to accompany social justice.

And Vermont will remain beautiful.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at August 23, 2012 05:35 PM (vBud5)

165 Mary, please tell me you're single...I got a raging Sahara Club for you!

Posted by: VP Solyndra Sales & Marketing at August 23, 2012 05:40 PM (PTS+l)

166 ...well, Paul Krugman is basically an intellectual black hole, so he could suck the is-ness out of just about anything. He's one of those guys that is more of a bully than an inspired thinker. At least he doesn't call himself Dr. and remind you that he's one of the well-lettered every ten minutes like that one liberal chic on MSN-BS with the Mary Lou Rhetton (SP) hairdo and burgeoning double chin.

Posted by: mistress overdone at August 23, 2012 08:14 PM (2/oBD)

167 Dear Mary,

You are both dumb AND dumber, so you don't need to stand next to anyone with the t-shirt in order to showcase this flaw in your mental faculties.

Mistress Overdone

Posted by: mistress overdone at August 23, 2012 08:20 PM (2/oBD)

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