I'm voting Romney too.

(I live in Virginia though so that's not a big sacrifice. I do have to say that those who didn't figure the Va thing out made themselves look stupid).

That almost seemed a bit too polished a response to be off the cuff, honestly.  Like they've been waiting for this and finally found a heckler willing to go along with them (i.e. stupid enough not to realize he wasn't going to win...so any heckler really.)

Polished, but a good response.

Posted by: Not an Artist at January 19, 2012 05:50 PM (fOPv7)

Debate we much

this is not the kind of language that is going to win wannabe revolutionaries over to our side

What they missed, and far more important, was their commentary on the state of American politics.

It was funny because it was true.

Beck has a vote up.  A pitiful number of respondents.  Maybe you guys want to weigh in.

Here's an upshot:  there's a local host in Boston who uses Romney's cock as a ball-gag, who says one knock against Romney is that he's too much of a gentleman.  I think that the "too polished" aspect of this is indicative of this knock, which is largely true.

Romney needs to work on sounding more like an asshole or something.

That almost seemed a bit too polished a response to be off the cuff, honestly.  Like they've been waiting for this and finally found a heckler willing to go along with them (i.e. stupid enough not to realize he wasn't going to win...so any heckler really.)

Polished, but a good response.

You need to have some of those.  That's the advantage of a long primary campaign.  You get the same questions and deal with the same people that you develop good patented responses.

"America's Right And You're Wrong"

Good line to use against Obama, too.

Debate we much

Posted by: alidade at January 19, 2012 05:54 PM (xXhWA)

Enough already.  This ain't exactly Lincoln - Douglas.  Shit, it's not even the Varsity

Romney needs to work on sounding more like an asshole or something.

Posted by: Truman North at January 19, 2012 05:58 PM (I2LwF)

To be honest, I think this country is going to need an asshole this next term.  And what I mean by that is an old fashioned all-American asshole.

Try as I might, I cannot get excited about Romney at all. He's dull and boring. Even with this #OWS putdown.

Oh well _{(he said with resignation)}, it's a step in the right direction. It's the beginning of a pimple of a testicle, and that's a start.

Man, I miss Bush.  You heckled him, and he'd smile, wave, and just take it.

These bastards go all smarty-talky on me, trying to make me feel stupid or something...

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 19, 2012 06:01 PM (0dAjL)

Heh, I bet it's a little one.

Has Mittens ever endorsed Dede Scuzzyflava?

OK, then.  He's better than Newt to me.

To be honest, I think this country is going to need an asshole this next term.  And what I mean by that is an old fashioned all-American asshole.

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2012 06:02 PM (fazey)

We have an increasing segment of the electorate that doesn't hesitate to vote for entitlements that they will not be paying for- the electorate as entitled Valley Girl. Like, totally.   Until that changes, we're fucked. 

Calista was ok with it. Not sure once (and if) that sinks in (and is believed) how that will play.

Posted by: chris at January 19, 2012 06:05 PM (N6apK)

YouÂ’re absolutely right.  NewtÂ’s toast.

Most republican women are familiar with giving blowjobs in cars, but being ok with “sharing” a husband is a little past the bounds for their idea of a First Lady.

I have had two blogs, but nobody ever read them. So I quit blogging.

I'm letting mine, um, "breathe" for a while.

Yeah, that's it, breathing.

You either strike a resonant chord with the masses or you don't. I appear to have hit two tuning forks at the same time, one a half-step above the other.

Posted by: chris at January 19, 2012 06:05 PM (N6apK)

It worked for JFK and Bill Clinton.  I don't think strange marriage arrangements have ever made anyone unelectable.  Abe and Mary Lincoln are another example.

The worst part of this whole Newt's Ex-Wives thing is the fact that it's going to make me picture that man rutting.

And I don't want to do that.  I'll never un-think it.

And apparently, I have to conjecture that he's pretty good at it, too, once he gets them drunk and into dim lighting, because let's face it:  now that Perry's out, all of the moronettes aren't exactly tearing down his posters and putting Newty ones up...

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at January 19, 2012 06:03 PM (fYOZx)

And you, Madam, owe me a Guinness.

t worked for JFK and Bill Clinton.  I don't think strange marriage arrangements have ever made anyone unelectable.  Abe and Mary Lincoln are another example.

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2012 06:10 PM (fazey)

Jackie and Hillary were definitely (portrayed as being) not ok with it.  They gained sympathy and approval for being the long-suffering wives.

Calista doesnÂ’t have that option.

You either strike a resonant chord with the masses or you don't. I appear to have hit two tuning forks at the same time, one a half-step above the other.

Haw!

also:  *cringe*

Posted by: chris at January 19, 2012 06:05 PM (N6apK)

Well, Marianne says Calista was ok with it.  Do we have any other proof that 1) Newt even suggested that and 2) Calista was ok with it?

Calista doesn't strike me as the type that would be 'ok' with that kind of arrangement.

Most republican women are familiar with giving blowjobs in cars, but being ok with “sharing” a husband is a little past the bounds for their idea of a First Lady.

Posted by: jwest at January 19, 2012 06:09 PM (FdndL)

The priapic Michelin Man and his hatchet-faced skank concubine need to go away.  Their hypocrisy is sickening.

Perfect...almost sock like nic for that comment.

Well played madam, well played.

Well here's a hippie joke about your mama that ya might not like -- I heard she was a 'Frisco dyke

also: *cringe*

That was an inside musican reference. But it beat the alternative, which was fingernails on a blackboard.

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 19, 2012 06:14 PM (c9Ivb)

Damn right we do!  or would!  As long as you keep abortion legal, we'll suck the chrome off a trailer hitch

Dear Maryanne:

I was only OK with it back when I was the side-dish and you were the wife.  Now that I hold the reins on this pot-bellied stallion, HE'S ALL MINE.

Let's do coffee next week,
Callista

Jackie and Hillary were definitely (portrayed as being) not ok with it.  They gained sympathy and approval for being the long-suffering wives.

Calista doesnÂ’t have that option.

Posted by: jwest at January 19, 2012 06:12 PM (FdndL)

Long-suffering or not, they still accepted the arrangement by the fact that they both remained married to them.  Arrangements don't necessarily mean they're approved by both parties.

Ehh, I like it.

That's how I describe my bowel movements.

Posted by: reason at January 19, 2012 06:19 PM (+hPIb)

Easy big fella.  What'd I say??

That was an inside musican reference. But it beat the alternative, which was fingernails on a blackboard.

I fail to see the problem with either of these.

Hedgehog:  Easy big fella.  What'd I say??

OK, that came across wrong.  I was commiserating with you.  As in a, "man, fuck my life!", but instead of mine, yours, because your whole day got squandered on .PPTs.

My bad!

Each of Newt's first two marriages lasted almost twenty years. The way they ended reflects poorly on him on and on the women he subsequently married.

Still, there doesn't appear to be any new Newt knowledge coming from the new interview other than maybe she remembers new details that she never remembered in any of her numerous tellings of this same story in the past.

Newt's daughters stand by him. That will mean a lot.

Me, I'm looking forward to the Newt versus Obama debates. Obama's ego won't let him stay away.  I can hardly wait.

My blogging experience merely reinforced my life philosophy:

The best way to avoid disappointment is to always expect to be disappointed.

Romney's form letter should've read:

(of which I mean the many subjects with which we agree upon, such as #REF not found! and #REF not found!)

"Not everyone who votes R gives a shit about the 'family values' thing."

Well the rank and file care far more about it than, say, additional marginal income tax cuts, so if people are interested in winning elections they might want to not alienate those people.

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 19, 2012 06:18 PM (c9Ivb)

I...um, well yeah...what?

Newt's daughters stand by him. That will mean a lot.

He's been secretly cheating on them for years by volunteering in the Big Brothers / Big Sisters program.

Newt's daughters stand by him. That will mean a lot.

Daughters are from wife #1, so that don't mean jack

Third time's the charm perhaps?

Or that eventually he'll run out of energy.

"Not everyone who votes R gives a shit about the 'family values' thing."

Posted by: J Rod at January 19, 2012 06:27 PM (63TXA)

How about being fundamentally, profoundly dishonest, no matter the circumstances?   You can bet a serial adulterer isn't Mother Teresa in all other aspects of his life

Posted by: Christina Hendricks' Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at January 19, 2012 06:29 PM (g6f6y)

FUCK THAT! Get your back room shit some other way. That is PURE Obamatics...."if I don't win, bargain me into it without votor participation."

So, according to Garrett's rules of decorum, is Perry a FORMER-candidate, or an EX-candidate?

Dunno.  But I do know this:  in 2014, he's going to be EX-Governor.

He ran metric ass-tons of "I love you, Texas, look at this entire spiral notebook of me writing Rick Perry-Texas and Rick Texas and Mrs. Richard Texas over and over again...  I'll never leave you!" bullcrap this last election cycle.  I know a lot of people that feel....oh what's the right word here...jilted...after he slammed Medina into the guardrails, won the Governor's race, and apparently only wanted it to keep his resume current until the time came to run for President...

Posted by: c. up at January 19, 2012 06:34 PM (oZfic)

Shut up and bring us our fucking Meow Mix, it's almost 7.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks' Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at January 19, 2012 06:29 PM (g6f6y)

I hope so. It's just so depressing.  If I had to bet the house one way or the other, I'd say president Huey Long gets another four.  We really need to reconsider the nomination process

He ran metric ass-tons of "I love you, Texas, look at this entire spiral notebook of me writing Rick Perry-Texas and Rick Texas and Mrs. Richard Texas over and over again...  I'll never leave you!" bullcrap this last election cycle.  I know a lot of people that feel....oh what's the right word here...jilted...after he slammed Medina into the guardrails, won the Governor's race, and apparently only wanted it to keep his resume current until the time came to run for President...

Posted by: reason at January 19, 2012 06:34 PM (+hPIb)

Sounds like normal Texas politics to me.

Posted by: phil at January 19, 2012 06:38 PM (QzdcC)

"We've already determined what you are.  We're haggling over price"

117One thing about all of this that's been a big relief. Luap Nor has hardly been in the news at all.

---------

If Luap wins Virginia, because of the protest vote, the pro-Romney media will go all out to trash him. ......It will be interesting to see what happens.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 19, 2012 06:41 PM (Gc/Qi)

Hitchens - and even though I disagreed with him, he was the most brilliant polemicist of his age - had an irrational hatred of her because of her faith

I think it's likely that Newt at that point was offering to remain married as public image thing, which isn't that unusual.  And Callista wouldn't be the first mistress to be told "I'm planning to leave her soon, but I just can't right now."

Man, tell us about it!  Have you seen the latest little love-note we've gotten from the married dude dorking us up our squeakhole?  Here:

My suspicion is that this whole critique has to do with the fact that I donÂ’t go to a lot of Washington parties and, as a consequence, the Washington press corps maybe just doesnÂ’t feel like IÂ’m in the mix enough with them, and they figure, well, if IÂ’m not spending time with them, I must be cold and aloof," Obama said

We really need to reconsider the nomination process

Quite the contrary, mon frer Moron. We need candidates with fully formed spines and genitals and a penchant for telling the truth.

Posted by: steevy at January 19, 2012 06:48 PM (7W3wI)

One of my friends was telling me that he was really injured during that game and played right through.  I didn't pay close attention as I was flirting with his friend.

Perry would have lost badly dudes. Get over it. Energetic and polarizing doesn't always do better than safe and bland. Would Pat Buchanan have done better than Dole as the nominee in '96? Exactly.

Yeah it wasn't so much the nomination process as it was that we got a shitty pool of shitty candidates who were absolute shit.

No shit.

Yeah it wasn't so much the nomination process as it was that we got a shitty pool of shitty candidates who were absolute shit.

No shit.

Blue-ish. It used to be Red before a bunch of rich Californians moved to Boulder to avoid their own piss-poor decisions to elect a bunch of Commie/Progressives in the first place.

Not so much fixed, as elaborated on.

BurtTC -- yeah, and image is important. i don't want to fight on the Left's terms but you have to recognize how the broader electorate will perceive someone, fair or no.

it's true that Buchanan and Perry are different (Buchanan's a lot smarter for one) but they both have the same polarization issue where it'd be difficult for them to get the support of apolitical undecideds. i'm saying that the fact that a "safe" candidate like Dole or McCain loses in a given year does not mean that a more incendiary candidate would've done better because they're supposedly more principled. McCain lost not cuz he was a wishy-washy moderate, though that may be the case on some issues, he lost cuz he came off as a grumpy old man in a terrible year for the GOP as a whole.

Posted by: Dang at January 19, 2012 07:02 PM (BbX1b)

I was thinking maybe he and allen were moles at one of the three fundraisers screwing up the traffic and everyone's commute.

“The liberal media,” she added, “and some of that GOP holier-than-thou machine overplayed their hand this time.”

Palin said that Gingrich, who she identified this week as the candidate she would vote for in the South Carolina primary if eligible, would ultimately benefit from the media attack.

“I call them ‘dumb arses,’” she said. “They think by trotting out this old Gingrich divorce interview — that’s old news and it does feature this disgruntled ex- that claimed that it would destroy a campaign. All this does is, Sean, is incentivize conservatives and independents who are so sick of the politics of personal destruction because it’s played so selectively by the media.”

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 19, 2012 06:59 PM (bjRNS)

Posted by: BurtTC at January 19, 2012 06:58 PM (Gc/Qi)

Both of you are exactly right.  Our nomination process has been degraded to the point where it's nothing but another "American Idol" show.  Sad.

it's times like these where i wish we could afford to run a Perry (or Paul for all the True Anti-Neocon Constitutionalists for that matter) and lose terribly just to prove this point.

that's not a RINO defense -- Reagan won and he was conservative across the board. but he had the appeal. people like Palin and Perry don't outside of their bases.

Posted by: Dang at January 19, 2012 07:02 PM (BbX1b)

I was thinking maybe he and allen were moles at one of the three fundraisers screwing up the traffic and everyone's commute.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 19, 2012 07:08 PM (QcFbt)

It's starting to feel like the Roman Coliseum.

Posted by: steevy at January 19, 2012 07:09 PM (7W3wI)

I think people who are sounding like that are factoring in the bad press and the rumor and innuendo that will eclipse the republican nominee.  They are equipped with the knowledge that the Republican will be honest and truthful to a fault ("don't be afraid of Senator Obama, he will make a fine president") and will lose cause he doesn't know how to play dirty like the opposition.

Perry shot his own ass off, no denying that, but it didn't help that we have a bunch of fat fucking purists who simply cannot abide by ANY deviation from brick red conservatism.

In defense of conservatism, it is pretty well codified by us fat fucking purists: big government bad, small government good, borders exist for a good reason (everybody else enforces theirs, why shouldn't we?), American Capitalism has done a great deal of good for the whole world, freedom is for everybody and we all should be equal before the law. I seem to remember a group of folk who thought that was a pretty good idea some time ago, a bunch of old white guys, IIRC.

Why can't we have a candidate that espouses all of those principles all the time? We have people in DC that are doing the exact opposite of that today, good and hard. How's that working out?

It's starting to feel like the Roman Coliseum.

Posted by: Kwik Kopy International

What-is the deal-with-the random dash-marks?

Posted by: steevy at January 19, 2012 07:18 PM (7W3wI)

Yup.  The media and the RNC has defined "conservative" down to the point where it is hardly conservative anymore.  It's been pretty evident that many people who comment here have bought into the bullshit. 

Keep your eyes on the prize folks. I will support anyone who is the r nominee to defeat bho. Think sc appointments and more.

"avenge me..." Ronald Reagan

SEEN ON FACEBOOK: “I don’t care if Gingrich was a swinger at this point. If he gets the nod, he gets my vote, because at least he was screwing a woman and NOT AMERICA.” Heh.

Yup.  The media and the RNC has defined "conservative" down to the point where it is hardly conservative anymore.  It's been pretty evident that many people who comment here have bought into the bullshit. 

Mandatory insurance programs are the epitome of time-honored, traditional conservative goverment.

SEEN ON FACEBOOK: “I don’t care if Gingrich was a swinger at this point. If he gets the nod, he gets my vote, because at least he was screwing a woman and NOT AMERICA.” Heh.

LOFL.

Gingrich '12: Because he screws sluts, not the ecomony!

Newt Gingrich: Cheating on his wife so he doesn't have to cheat on you.

How about one who espouses them most of the time?

Perry's "heartless" statement is what killed his candidacy.

He was a part-timer. Can we really afford that at this point? We're dying because of Obama's Socialism/Marxism which is anti-conservatism on steroids. We need its polar-opposite immediately if we are to even start reversing the damage.

There are people out there, we have to convince them to run.

Looking back, there were 2  candidates-one potential, one realized, who walked the conservative line y'all make such noise about.  Neither one is present now.

Buddy Roemer?

It was Buddy wasn't it?

I knew we should have payed attention to him.

"Seven executives charged as filesharing site shut down over accusations they cheated copyright holders out of $500m"

Posted by: c. up at January 19, 2012 06:21 PM (oZfic)

You call someone else a closeted lib/dem???  Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.

_{*I denounce myself*}

Mandatory insurance programs are the epitome of time-honored, traditional conservative goverment.

Posted by: Entropy at January 19, 2012 07:39 PM (Ci0JG)

Don't make the mistake of confusing the republican party with conservatism.  They're two different things.   

Posted by: Christina Hendricks' Mighty Jugs Says We're All Truly Boned at

Got any credible source on that? Because that sounds *really* uncharacteristic of the Mormon church.  And, uh, douchey?  Thanks, sweety, your commitment to tolerance and civility is noted.

Posted by: BurtTC

Bullshit posts under the name BurtTC.  This is about as credible as suggesting that Gingrich is a closet slave-holder because he comes from Georgia.

>>Hey, how my comments aren't showing in the debate thread?!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 19, 2012 07:52 PM (niZvt)

>>They're not posted comments a la chat room. Instead they go to queue, which the producers (cobloggers) read, and we post them, by hand, if we think they make a good point. 

Make of that what you will.

Calista was ok with it. Not sure once (and if) that sinks in (and is believed) how that will play.

Posted by: chris at January 19, 2012 06:05 PM (N6apK)

YouÂ’re absolutely right.  NewtÂ’s toast.

Most republican women are familiar with giving blowjobs in cars, but being ok with “sharing” a husband is a little past the bounds for their idea of a First Lady.

Posted by: jwest at January 19, 2012 06:09 PM (FdndL)

So let me get this straight.. Newt is the ploygamist ?