October 08, 2012
— Ace Key quotes: I know the president hopes for peace, and I do too, but "hope is not a strategy."
On Afghanistan: "I will affirm that my duty is not to my political prospects, but to the security of the nation."
Overall, he did not announce any surprise new commitment or policy. He instead asserted what could be called classic Reaganite principles -- moral clarity in our thinking, verbal clarity in our words. Military clarity in our resolve, should it come to that.
The thrust was that Obama's policy was ambiguous; our allies are undermined, our enemies emboldened.
He stressed free trade. Although he did not directly state this, he implicitly argued that free trade acts as a sort of evangelist for other freedoms, for openness, for prosperity, for friendship.
He reaffirmed that he planned a withdrawal from Afghanistan, but implicitly caveated this by noting he did not believe in "pre-announced timetables" and that he would be guided by "facts on the ground" as well as the advice of his military advisers.
I had hoped for something stronger than this. Like-- we either fight to win or we withdraw on a much faster pace (that is, as soon as militarily possible). My sense is that we have soldiers dying over nothing except politics at the moment.
He repeatedly attacked Obama on his defense cuts, and argued that weakness would inevitably lead to war, as it usually does.
I think it was a strong speech, within the usual contours of a Reaganite/Republican foreign policy. The man gives a good speech. At least to my ear, he speaks in a near-optimum number of words per minute -- he speaks sort of quickly, thus keeping it punchy, but slows down within that quick-delivery framework to add a bit of subtle emphasis.
Much of his language is admirably old-fashioned in the best of ways -- the vocabulary is not much different from what you'd find in a Churchill address. There's a reassuring quality in that; the mind naturally associates timeless words with stability and solemnity.
A good speech, certainly presidential, well-written and very well delivered. It did not contain any bold pronouncement, but reflected the basics of the standard Reagan foreign policy, as modified post-9/11.
More: Subtle but important distinction from Obama on preventing Iran from having nuclear weapons (Obama) or preventing them from even having nuclear wapon capability (Romney).
Full prepared remarks here. He never seemed to go off-script, but it's possible he changed a few things before speaking.
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Posted by: steevy at October 08, 2012 07:36 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: LP at October 08, 2012 07:37 AM (pR8WM)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 08, 2012 07:38 AM (oSFWF)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 07:38 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: Clemenza at October 08, 2012 07:39 AM (afx6B)
Posted by: Michele Obama's Landing Strip at October 08, 2012 07:39 AM (SWlXH)
Shit just got real?
Explosions?
Slo-mo shots?
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 07:39 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at October 08, 2012 07:39 AM (J6kXj)
Well, calling them howling barbarians isn't actually going to sell very well.
Also, the Libyan government has been better about addressing the issues from the 9/11 attack than the SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 07:40 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 08, 2012 07:40 AM (oSFWF)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 08, 2012 07:40 AM (vCK/R)
Posted by: small town girl at October 08, 2012 07:41 AM (VmDIN)
Posted by: Libyan Appartment Dwellers at October 08, 2012 07:41 AM (SWlXH)
Posted by: Pastorius at October 08, 2012 07:41 AM (r2evj)
Posted by: LP at October 08, 2012 07:42 AM (pR8WM)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 08, 2012 07:42 AM (oSFWF)
Posted by: Palandine at October 08, 2012 07:42 AM (g7D8V)
Posted by: Redd at October 08, 2012 07:42 AM (guxHP)
Posted by: Jean at October 08, 2012 07:43 AM (OIJP7)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 07:43 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at October 08, 2012 07:44 AM (J6kXj)
Posted by: Redd at October 08, 2012 07:44 AM (guxHP)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 08, 2012 07:45 AM (vCK/R)
Posted by: LP at October 08, 2012 07:45 AM (pR8WM)
Posted by: Nora at October 08, 2012 07:45 AM (RGgMp)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 08, 2012 07:45 AM (oSFWF)
Yeah, it sucks. The problem is that we've been reared, as a society, to try not to believe bad things about people. So when you tell people that some whole society is made up of howling barbarians and everything they believe - at least where their beliefs are different from everyone else- is evil, then people assume that you're the bad actor, not the society you're criticizing.
Sad, but true.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 07:45 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: Barry Oflustercluck at October 08, 2012 07:46 AM (PHb2k)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at October 08, 2012 07:46 AM (a4CUi)
Are you David Axelrod?
Posted by: fluffy at October 08, 2012 07:46 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: TD at October 08, 2012 07:46 AM (DQMcq)
Posted by: Redd at October 08, 2012 07:47 AM (guxHP)
He's nowhere near as good on the teleprompter as the SCoaMF.
Posted by: garrett at October 08, 2012 07:47 AM (SWlXH)
Posted by: LP at October 08, 2012 07:47 AM (pR8WM)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 08, 2012 07:48 AM (oSFWF)
Posted by: DanInMN at October 08, 2012 07:48 AM (XqeyF)
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 08, 2012 07:49 AM (9+ccr)
Good midday Horde. You know what's awesome on a Monday? Staph infections. They're awesome.
Back on topic.
Sweep the leg Mitt!
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 08, 2012 07:49 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Nora at October 08, 2012 07:49 AM (RGgMp)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 07:49 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 08, 2012 07:50 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 08, 2012 07:50 AM (vCK/R)
Posted by: LP at October 08, 2012 07:50 AM (pR8WM)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 08, 2012 07:50 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: small town girl at October 08, 2012 07:50 AM (VmDIN)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at October 08, 2012 07:50 AM (J6kXj)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at October 08, 2012 07:51 AM (a4CUi)
"I can't perform flawlessly, night after night,"
Ah...... Probably shouldn't go there.
@41
"stay" out of Syria
Too late.
Posted by: Beagle at October 08, 2012 07:51 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 08, 2012 07:51 AM (vCK/R)
I'd have it go something like this:
-Opening shot of next debate. Low angle shot of both podiums, from slightly below the stage.
-Cue explosion in background with Mitt Romney running toward camera in slow-motion and vaulting over his podium, camera tracking him, pulling out his magic handkerchief.
-Mitt lands center stage, ninja style, with his handkerchief in his hand, holding it like a gun.
-Close-up shot of Mitt: "Shit's about to get real!"
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 07:51 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 08, 2012 07:52 AM (9+ccr)
Barky's gonna cancel that 3rd, Foreign Policy debate. What choice does he have? Romney will own his ass in that one, probably worse than last week's.
He'll stick around for the rigged Town Hall format but then he's outta here after that.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 08, 2012 07:52 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 08, 2012 07:52 AM (TMB3S)
Rugby player loses testicle during final defeat
Yea, that seems pretty final to me.
Posted by: JackStraw
I thought SCOAMF was a golfer, not a rugby player.
Posted by: Roy at October 08, 2012 07:53 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 08, 2012 07:54 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 08, 2012 07:55 AM (vCK/R)
Posted by: LP at October 08, 2012 07:56 AM (pR8WM)
Posted by: Spike at October 08, 2012 07:56 AM (I4NNt)
Rugby player loses testicle during final defeat
Yea, that seems pretty final to me.
Nah, you've got two for a reason.
Posted by: Lance Armstrong at October 08, 2012 07:56 AM (SWlXH)
Posted by: steevy at October 08, 2012 07:56 AM (6o4Fb)
Lol. So what, some ambassador died? Lol. That won't move the needle. Romney's speech won't move it either. The pblic hates foreign policy. The fake job numbers have already erased Obama admittedly close loss in the debate last week.
Expect Biden to destroy Ryan and for Obama to move into an insurmountable lead in Texas by Friday. I'll bet anybody a tube of KY jelly!
Posted by: Gerg, full of semen at October 08, 2012 07:56 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 08, 2012 07:56 AM (GFM2b)
Actual headline on CNN crawl during the speech:
Rugby player loses testicle during final defeat
Yea, that seems pretty final to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 08, 2012 11:52 AM (TMB3S)
This is why Michelle has Malaria and Sashimi keep one of mine each, for "safe keeping."
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at October 08, 2012 07:56 AM (ggRof)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 08, 2012 07:57 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Honey Badger @robfit at October 08, 2012 07:57 AM (cDwCa)
Confidence.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 08, 2012 07:57 AM (qigku)
Oh man, I can't fucking wait for that debate!!!!
obama's going to look like a kid in front of the audience, probably stuttering and pausing, trying to figure out how to say something intelligent.
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 07:57 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 08, 2012 07:57 AM (vCK/R)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 08, 2012 07:57 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at October 08, 2012 07:58 AM (a4CUi)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 08, 2012 07:58 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Roy at October 08, 2012 07:58 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 08, 2012 07:58 AM (vCK/R)
Posted by: phoenixgirl what did huma abedin know? team dagny at October 08, 2012 07:59 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 08, 2012 07:59 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Giada de Laurentiis' cleavage at October 08, 2012 07:59 AM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at October 08, 2012 07:59 AM (J6kXj)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 08, 2012 08:00 AM (jucos)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at October 08, 2012 08:00 AM (a4CUi)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 08, 2012 08:00 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 08, 2012 08:00 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 08, 2012 08:00 AM (PHb2k)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at October 08, 2012 08:00 AM (J6kXj)
it certainly looks like it was well-received by the students!
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at October 08, 2012 11:59 AM
Good I remember when obama gave a speech at one of these academies and he got a tepid response...
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 08, 2012 08:01 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 08, 2012 08:01 AM (GFM2b)
96 Was the speech well received?
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NO! Romney comes across as a typical Republican warmonger as opposed to Obama's cool, collected yet strong Commander-in-Chief. He killed Osama, you know. I can see this speech costing Romney West Virginia and Wyoming. Lol.
Posted by: Gerg, full of semen at October 08, 2012 08:01 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 08, 2012 12:00 PM (PHb2k)
guy can probably bench press a Coke machine
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 08, 2012 08:01 AM (8sCoq)
And then, have them turn back to back with their hands up, Charlie's Angels style, and have the background illumination turn up so bright it sillhouettes them both in black and white with block letters below them:
Romney - Ryan 2012
Fade out with final massive explosion.
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 08:01 AM (GQ8sn)
Excellent speech!
Wasn't too long...he got in some zingers...and wrapped it up before it got tedious.
He use the words, "prevent war", several times.
Came across as strong and decisive.
Posted by: wheatie at October 08, 2012 08:01 AM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: LP at October 08, 2012 08:02 AM (pR8WM)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 08, 2012 08:02 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: and irresolute at October 08, 2012 08:02 AM (JvklE)
She will avoid jail time. Pic in my sig.
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 08, 2012 08:02 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 08, 2012 08:02 AM (TMB3S)
Well, they are future military types, so they lack integrative complexity.
Posted by: MSM at October 08, 2012 08:02 AM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Tami at October 08, 2012 08:03 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 08, 2012 08:03 AM (jucos)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 08, 2012 08:03 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 08, 2012 08:04 AM (TMB3S)
The lefties will go nuts - as expected, but I believe the rest of America (you know, the people who vote only once on election day) will see this as a terrific speech.
Mittster did well.
Posted by: ironbill at October 08, 2012 08:04 AM (Q+4Zh)
Posted by: jjshaka at October 08, 2012 08:04 AM (dBLat)
she's got a cheatsheet on her wrist
does she call plays?
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 08, 2012 08:04 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 08, 2012 08:05 AM (jucos)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 08, 2012 08:05 AM (8sCoq)
Confidence.
Or Romney simply got bored with debating an empty chair and wanted to tip his hand just to make it a little more challenging.
Rumor has it that next debate Mitt will try to make it a more interesting contest by showing up in shorts, a dirty t-shirt and including the phrase "u mad, bro?" in every response.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 08, 2012 08:05 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 08, 2012 08:05 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 08, 2012 08:05 AM (PH+2B)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 08, 2012 08:06 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: LP at October 08, 2012 08:06 AM (pR8WM)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 08, 2012 08:06 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 08, 2012 12:02 PM (ccXZP)
dude she is fug
NFL cheerleader. Automatic clemency.
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 08:07 AM (GQ8sn)
We hear this speech and we resonate with it. Being told it is "Moderate" doesn't work with us.
The persuadable undecides though? Be careful labeling Mitt as Moderate with them. That will not work out the way you hope.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 08, 2012 08:07 AM (qigku)
I think they're going to regret that formulation.
See, they've made it okay to vote for a "moderate" while those "Conservatives" are soooooo scary. Mitt has been preaching pretty straight-line Conservatism since at least The Debate. If they succeed in defining that as "moderate" what are they going to do when VP Ryan runs for Pres in 2020 after two successful Romney terms?
The problem for the MFM, of course, is that most Americans really do lean right- so many Conservative positions are simply common sense (keep more of your own money, Peace through Strength, Free Trade both as an economic and a diplomatic tool, etc.)- that hearing a clear defense of them makes it very hard to call them "radical."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 08:07 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 08, 2012 08:07 AM (X/+QT)
Posted by: and irresolute at October 08, 2012 08:07 AM (JvklE)
No more watching nervously as Romney makes a speech or debates Zero. Many of us, myself included, have been waiting for some other shoe to drop...waiting for Romney to make a real gaffe (not one of the MSM manufactured ones). He's been pretty much perfect since he won the nomination. I've heard several people express surpise after the debate, they were expecting the MFM caricature of both candidates. Even those who won't vote for him can now picture Romney in theWhite House.
The moonbats, of course, are incorrigible.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 08, 2012 08:07 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 08, 2012 08:08 AM (PH+2B)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 08, 2012 08:09 AM (Dnbau)
I agree. Why do you think she's running around nailing 17 year olds? That actually was one of the more flattering pics of her I could find.
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 08, 2012 08:09 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at October 08, 2012 08:09 AM (a4CUi)
And for the most part it's been an in-house operation, it's been Power and Rice and the rest of the Valerie Jarrett Administration's chosen American apologists, Hillary's been little more than a clerk.
Obama's only hope is convincing people that none of that messy stuff really matters.
Posted by: JEM at October 08, 2012 08:10 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: small town girl at October 08, 2012 08:10 AM (B2PEa)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 08, 2012 08:11 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: LP at October 08, 2012 08:11 AM (pR8WM)
Posted by: and irresolute at October 08, 2012 08:11 AM (JvklE)
O'Hanlon on Fox: "nuance" with Russia and China
Really? They relentlessly pursue their national interests in a very zero sum way. Not that much nuance in either nation right now. It's the wall of nuance which prevents us from seeing China and Russia.
Posted by: Beagle at October 08, 2012 08:12 AM (sOtz/)
Somebody already did Lance, so have a rhyme.
Here comes Dan
with his pecker in his hand
he's a one ball man
and he's off to the rodeo.
IDRC where that's from.
Posted by: DaveA at October 08, 2012 08:13 AM (wcjj2)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 08, 2012 08:13 AM (Dnbau)
I've *lived* in a foreign country.
My father was a foreigner.
I know how to say foreign words better than you do.
I've won one war and am in the process of winning another.
I killed Bin Laden!
I'm Gumby, dammit!
Posted by: President Honey Boo-boo at October 08, 2012 08:16 AM (M2x4y)
A thug tyrant head of a thug nation. Him and his sycophant LOLcommies can get the fuck off my cheezburger.
Posted by: DaveA at October 08, 2012 08:18 AM (wcjj2)
Are you David Axelrod?
--- Obviously it is Harry Reid
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 08, 2012 08:18 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: George Takei [/i] [/b] at October 08, 2012 08:18 AM (e7w2X)
I'm becoming increasingly convinced, the man is speaking as someone preparing to take the job, not as someone campaigning for it.
Maybe that's telling, maybe it isn't. I suppose it's possible that's just how he does things, but I have to think if he was less sure it was going to be his job in a matter of months, he would sound different than he does.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 08, 2012 08:18 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: and irresolute at October 08, 2012 08:19 AM (JvklE)
Posted by: mallfly at October 08, 2012 08:19 AM (bJm7W)
Eleven years later, “they” still hate us, now more than ever, Logan told the crowd. The Taliban and al-Qaida have not been vanquished, she added. They’re coming back.
“I chose this subject because, one, I can’t stand, that there is a major lie being propagated . . .” Logan declared in her native South African accent.
The lie is that AmericaÂ’s military might has tamed the Taliban.
Posted by: Obama's retirement planner at October 08, 2012 08:20 AM (e8kgV)
#155. Exactly. Call em as you see em. Tired of all the "man-caused disaster" bs.
Posted by: traumakitty at October 08, 2012 08:20 AM (c/Glr)
A culture that has a word jihadi (holy warrior) of course has a word hirabi sp? (unholy warrior). Why everybody refuses to pick it up and use it to beat the hell into some assholes baffles me.
Posted by: DaveA at October 08, 2012 08:20 AM (wcjj2)
Ace: ...."A good speech, certainly presidential, well-written and very well delivered. It did not contain any bold pronouncement, but reflected the basics of the standard Reagan foreign policy, as modified post-9/11."
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"...there will be no flexability with Vladimir Putin"
"...there will be no daylight between Israel and the US"
These seemed bold to me, Ace...and were good zingers at TFG, too.
Posted by: wheatie at October 08, 2012 08:20 AM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 12:07 PM (5DR1j)
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My impression of Mitt's message so far is that he wants to start giving back America to the people and he'll do his best to defend this country in the process.
He also wants to re-establish friendship with our tried and true allies.
Posted by: Soona at October 08, 2012 08:21 AM (h4T0N)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 08, 2012 08:22 AM (ovpNn)
There's a silent majority there, too, and we ignore them b/c...why? They can't provide money or power to us? We act like CAIR and othe radicals here speak for all Muslims. Why? They provide money and votes.
Big mistake. I hope Prez Mitt corrects it, here and abroad.
Posted by: PJ at October 08, 2012 08:23 AM (DQHjw)
Posted by: Typical white jewish granny at October 08, 2012 08:24 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: traumakitty at October 08, 2012 08:24 AM (c/Glr)
Posted by: Tommy V at October 08, 2012 08:25 AM (ZYlKz)
Rugby player loses testicle during final defeat
Somebody already did Lance, so have a rhyme.
Here comes Dan
with his pecker in his hand
he's a one ball man
and he's off to the rodeo.
IDRC where that's from.
Posted by: DaveA at October 08, 2012 12:13 PM (wcjj2)
From The Rodeo Song.
http://tinyurl.com/yb8jqwx
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 08, 2012 08:25 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 08, 2012 08:25 AM (lOmbq)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 08, 2012 08:26 AM (JWLqy)
Posted by: Inside the Mirror Image Mind at October 08, 2012 08:26 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Typical white jewish granny at October 08, 2012 08:26 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 08, 2012 08:27 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 08, 2012 08:28 AM (jucos)
President Obama marked Columbus Day by issuing a proclamation that reflects “on the tragic burdens tribal communities bore” in the years that followed the discovery of the New World by Christopher Columbus.
“When the explorers laid anchor in the Bahamas, they met indigenous peoples who had inhabited the Western hemisphere for millennia,” Obama wrote. “As we reflect on the tragic burdens tribal communities bore in the years that followed, let us commemorate the many contributions they have made to the American experience, and let us continue to strengthen the ties that bind us today.”
Link in my sig to WZ coverage and full proclamation.
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 08, 2012 08:28 AM (ccXZP)
Sound the alarm.... ring the bells.... two if by sea....
THE GROWNUPS ARE COMING!!
THE GROWNUPS ARE COMING!!
Posted by: fixerupper at October 08, 2012 08:29 AM (C8hzL)
THE
PEOPLE
WAITING
FOR
LAST
WEEK'S
SOCK PUPPET
COUNTS
I believe that's one of the cobs.
Chill, yo.
Posted by: fluffy at October 08, 2012 08:30 AM (z9HTb)
Who?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
She played the black friend in "Clueless". Link in sig.
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 08:30 AM (GQ8sn)
"Stacey Dash (hawtie) is supporting Romney"
We also have Jameson. Anyone know Hendricks or Hayek? I know, probably raging leftys.
Dash in URL (sfw). I wasn't sure either.
Posted by: Beagle at October 08, 2012 08:30 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Havedash at October 08, 2012 08:31 AM (F0WNa)
The board is obvious and Romney has the advantage. As long as both players finish the game according to the prescribed strategies as played in thousands of previously documented chess games, Romney will win.
Obama has plenty of powerful pieces, with the MFM and his fanboi base, but he lost his queen in a trap and won't recover, unless Romney makes a mistake.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 08, 2012 08:32 AM (qigku)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 08, 2012 08:32 AM (VtjlW)
Hayek is definitely TFG.
No word on Hendricks, but yeah she is most likely part of the Hollywood libtard crowd. I hope I'm wrong because that would be udderly faptastic!
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 08:32 AM (GQ8sn)
...and the line: "Hope is not a strategy" - devastatingly brilliant.
Posted by: Sgt. York at October 08, 2012 08:32 AM (MM5lb)
After that Speech , I bet GREG has PPP running down his leg....
Posted by: AmericanDawg at October 08, 2012 08:33 AM (COr7y)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 08, 2012 08:33 AM (JWLqy)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 08, 2012 08:33 AM (8dspl)
THE GROWNUPS ARE COMING!!
THE GROWNUPS ARE COMING!!
Please to be getting from street!
Posted by: pep at October 08, 2012 08:34 AM (6TB1Z)
186 What was the strategy in Mitt giving this speech before the foreign policy debate?
I'm thinking....bait?
Or...study material, that Barky will be tested on later at the debate.
Posted by: wheatie at October 08, 2012 08:34 AM (l5RhJ)
BREAKING!
Stephanie Cutter on CNN
"We are not going to take policy advice from someone who has never bowed to a foreign dictator, apologized for America, or let an Ambassador get ass raped beaten and strangled."
"Mitt Romney simply does not have the foreign policy experience that President Obama does....and Mitt Romney who may be a felon wants to give rich people a 5 Trillion Dollar tax cut...do you realize how much 5 Trillion is? That is nearly as much as the 6 Trillion in debt that President Obama has created in his first four years!"
"If Mitt Romney really cared about the american people he would have gotten Ace to update last weeks Poster and Sock Puppet counts."
Posted by: Stephanie Cutter's Thin Liar Lips at October 08, 2012 08:34 AM (ovpNn)
“When the explorers laid anchor in the Bahamas, they met indigenous peoples who had inhabited the Western hemisphere for millennia,” Obama wrote. “As we reflect on the tragic burdens tribal communities bore in the years that followed, let us commemorate the many contributions they have made to the American experience, and let us continue to strengthen the ties that bind us today.”
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I would expect nothing else from this POS. Agitatin' the injuns. Causing further splits in our nation.
Unfortunately, this was probably lifted directly out of a middle-school history textbook.
Posted by: Soona at October 08, 2012 08:34 AM (h4T0N)
Posted by: Gallup at October 08, 2012 08:35 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Redd at October 08, 2012 08:35 AM (guxHP)
Posted by: CBS at October 08, 2012 08:36 AM (++kZl)
Challenge accepted. I'll fap to that awesome Redskins cheerleader.
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 08, 2012 08:36 AM (W9C25)
Posted by: AmericanDawg at October 08, 2012 08:36 AM (COr7y)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 08, 2012 08:36 AM (ZgBZU)
Dash was on Cosby and Fresh Prince. Suddenly she looks familiar. I knew her without knowing her name. Wasn't she a little princess character with expensive tastes? I need to give some old brain cells CPR.
Posted by: Beagle at October 08, 2012 08:37 AM (sOtz/)
Probably a naive idea in a lot of ways.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 08, 2012 08:37 AM (qigku)
Posted by: JPS at October 08, 2012 08:38 AM (8YDV4)
Posted by: Meremortal, Monday morning QB at October 08, 2012 08:38 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 08, 2012 08:38 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 08, 2012 08:38 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2012 08:40 AM (pFqpP)
Posted by: Hopeless at October 08, 2012 08:40 AM (H1od7)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 08, 2012 08:41 AM (aHR5E)
You've never seen a horny whale...
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 08, 2012 08:42 AM (e7w2X)
Ms. Dash is certainly a cutie. I suppose the fact that I don't have the slightest idea who she is speaks more about my moviegoing habits than anything else. Any more, any actor/actress under the age of about 40 is interchangeable with another one.
Still, that's one more for our side. Good thing she's made plenty of movies, since she's probably on the Leftard Hollyweird Shit List now. Hope she's the frugal sort.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 08, 2012 08:42 AM (lOmbq)
Posted by: Ron Burgandy at October 08, 2012 08:43 AM (jucos)
Unfortunately, this was probably lifted directly out of a middle-school history textbook. Posted by: Soona at October 08, 2012 12:34 PM
Give Choom Boy some credit, please.
He didn't mention the contributions Muzzies have made to the New World, at least in this "proclamation."
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 08, 2012 08:43 AM (ZgX/g)
Depends on the Anchor.
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/personalities/megyn-kelly/bio/#s=h-l
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 08, 2012 08:43 AM (tf9Ne)
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THIS is why I come here. Thanks for making my Monday bearable.
Posted by: fixerupper at October 08, 2012 08:43 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 08, 2012 08:44 AM (DGIjM)
OMG! I just googled her! Holy crap, I didn't know!!!
Posted by: EC at October 08
Thats right ! Brains are Sexy !
Posted by: AmericanDawg at October 08, 2012 08:44 AM (COr7y)
I would gladly
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 08:46 AM (GQ8sn)
State Department Still Hiring
Ambassadors
Great salary and benefits!
Applicants should be able to dodge bullets, enjoy forced anal sex with unwashed strangers who wear flipflops, and be skilled in the art of self defense. If you can outrun a mob with rpgs and bricks, you will be given first consideration.
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Or email Hillary "Toozla" Clinton at toothicktofail@cankles.com with the subject line "I'll take one for the team!"
Posted by: Humma Abadin Clinton, Concubine of the Former First Lady Hillary Rode Em Clitons at October 08, 2012 08:46 AM (ovpNn)
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Eat chicken.
Posted by: Squirrel from CFA comm at October 08, 2012 08:46 AM (eEfYn)
Posted by: LP at October 08, 2012 08:47 AM (pR8WM)
And a cute French Maid outfit.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2012 08:47 AM (pFqpP)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 08, 2012 08:48 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at October 08, 2012 08:48 AM (a4CUi)
Posted by: Jaynie59 at October 08, 2012 08:48 AM (4zKCA)
You know what I think we need to do? Go back to the Cold War strategies with Voice of America and such. Transmit our own propaganda into the ME countries.
Probably a naive idea in a lot of ways.
I'd just cut off all aid to any country who promotes jihadism in their schools. In fact, if they violate any freedoms we hold dear, isolate them. No vote for women = isolate. Genital mutilation? Same thing. Roving bands of "morality police?" Guess what.
But that's just me.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 08, 2012 08:48 AM (lOmbq)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows poor people don't know how to dress themselves at October 08, 2012 08:49 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 08, 2012 08:49 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 08:50 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: phoenixgirl what did huma abedin know? team dagny at October 08, 2012 08:51 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 08, 2012 08:51 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 08, 2012 08:51 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: Hopeless at October 08, 2012 08:51 AM (dramD)
It would be contra-intellectual and counter-productive to state that any other way.
Fight to win, means military. There is no ambiguity. Our military gets what they need to do the job. Period.
Withdraw at a much faster pace means without the existing political dribble withdrawal we are engaged in right now- which is getting people killed. Never mind the fact we have announced when. Any military strategist or historian worth their salt could tell you this (current announced withdrawal) is destructive and being proven so.
I was dissapointed Romney didn't hit Mr' Obama's initial remarks back in 2007 about Afghanistan being the war we need to fight (or something like that) and Iraq being a "distraction".
Obama is directly responsible for the turmoil in Iraq today due to the foolish way he ended our commitment there. All that sacrifice was a fact. It was mostly in the past and there was a vested interest in seeing Iraq succeed on that alone. But he threw it away to fight the "real" war. Then Mr. Obama made that a more dangerous, deadly and curious engagement.
Posted by: marcus at October 08, 2012 08:51 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at October 08, 2012 08:52 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 08, 2012 08:52 AM (136wp)
...but all three of these FTA's were begun under the Bush Administration. Obama has made no new efforts to get the ball rolling on new FTA's not begun by his predecessor.
Posted by: LP at October 08, 2012 12:47 PM (pR8WM)
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I'm not sure, but the Columbia FTA was negotiated under W right before the elections. The SCOAMT refused to sign it.
Posted by: Soona at October 08, 2012 08:52 AM (h4T0N)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 08, 2012 08:53 AM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Russell Means Manure at October 08, 2012 08:53 AM (1Y+hH)
We also have Jameson. Posted by: Beagle at October 08, 2012 12:30 PM (sOtz/)
Heh, thats funny. I thought maybe she was another false flagger like Victoria Jackson, but looking at her twitter (lol) she looks like another AOS moron. Unfortunately she's taking a lot of abuse for it but I'm sure she saw that coming.
Posted by: little billy badass at October 08, 2012 08:54 AM (xXhWA)
235 The entirety of the JEF's foreign policy doctrine is voting "present".
You forgot about the...bowing and apologizing.
And also the:
Agitating in islamic countries, to bring about the Arab Spring.
Arming drug lords in Mexico.
Sucking up to Putin and Medvedev.
It would've been better...if he had only been voting "present".
Posted by: wheatie at October 08, 2012 08:54 AM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: Numb Nuts in Californica at October 08, 2012 08:55 AM (lJ3rV)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 08, 2012 08:55 AM (VtjlW)
I hope that Mitt has a couple of smack-down lines for al-obama when he starts touting Bin Laden. A couple of scenarios:
O - I gave the order to kill Bin Laden.
M -Well duh. That's new policy? Bush gave the order, you just happened to be in office when the opportunity presented itself. Was there any other options you considered valid when it came to Bin Laden's final disposition? Maybe you would rather have had him arrested and put on trial in NYC? Or maybe you thought about passing up on the opportunity like Bill Clinton did when he was president? And oh, by the way, how wasn't that decision debated for a good while within your administration? And why was Valery Jarrett allowed to stall the operation? Last time I checked, Ms Jarrett isn't even an elected official.
O - I killed Bin Laden
M- No, you did not kill Bin Laden. Our brave soldiers had that duty and priviledge. You watched the operation, after being brough in from the golf course, that is.
Posted by: Havedash at October 08, 2012 08:55 AM (F0WNa)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 08, 2012 08:55 AM (lOmbq)
But the problem isn't Afghanis themselves or even the talibs. It's Pak and their nuke arsenal.
No amount of hand-waving or chest-thumping will ever make that situation a 'no-brainer.'
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 08, 2012 08:55 AM (e7w2X)
Posted by: palooka at October 08, 2012 08:55 AM (R5B8I)
Posted by: phoenixgirl what did huma abedin know? team dagny at October 08, 2012 08:55 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 08, 2012 08:56 AM (ck76k)
Heh, thats funny. I thought maybe she was another false flagger like Victoria Jackson, but looking at her twitter (lol) she looks like another AOS moron. Unfortunately she's taking a lotof abuse for it but I'm sure she saw that coming.
Posted by: little billy badass at October 08, 2012 12:54 PM (xXhWA)
Why is Victoria Jackson a false flagger? Did I miss something she did?
Posted by: Tami at October 08, 2012 08:56 AM (X6akg)
Don't forget his fecklessness when a Central American country whose name escapes me at the moment, had such obvious voter fraud going on, he didn't want to interfere. It was pretty blatant, and a lot of Western press saw it. TFG didn't.
Anyone remember this?
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 08:56 AM (GQ8sn)
Hi! I am fine as frog's hair. At work right now, but in the "hurry up and wait" mode at the moment.
I usually hang out at another blog, but it has been kind of slow lately. I do see quite few familiar nics here.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2012 08:56 AM (pFqpP)
Anyone remember this?
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 12:56 PM (GQ8sn)
Honduras......really screwed them over.
Posted by: Tami at October 08, 2012 08:56 AM (X6akg)
Yep. Lol. Put Kansas and Oklahoma into the tossup category. People are tired of endless war, and just want to go back to work. The wonderful job numbers, that erased all of Romney's momentum and then some, sealed the deal for Preident Obama. Lol.
I said LOL!
Posted by: Gerg, full of semen at October 08, 2012 08:57 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Barack Obama President of the the Free World and Ist Citizen Fucktard at October 08, 2012 08:57 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: SH at October 08, 2012 08:58 AM (gmeXX)
What? That doesn't disqualify her from hawtness! If anything, as long as they are done right and look good, it's a "force multiplier".
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 08:58 AM (GQ8sn)
Obama: It was a gutsy call.
Mittens: Look..... I know that going against Valerie Jarrett's wishes is not a small thing..... but C'MON!!
Posted by: fixerupper at October 08, 2012 08:58 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: LP at October 08, 2012 08:58 AM (pR8WM)
Why is Victoria Jackson a false flagger? Did I miss something she did? Posted by: Tami at October 08, 2012 12:56 PM (X6akg)
She's not for real. She tries to sound like the left's imaginary strawman af a crazy conspicy-nut tea partier. Its just a gag.
Posted by: little billy badass at October 08, 2012 08:59 AM (xXhWA)
Talk about your eliminationist rhetoric...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 08, 2012 09:00 AM (wtvvX)
She's not for real. She tries to sound like the left's imaginary strawman af a crazy conspicy-nut tea partier. Its just a gag.
She has done appearances with TEA Party groups. If she is playing, she is playing it to the hilt.
Posted by: fluffy at October 08, 2012 09:02 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 08, 2012 09:02 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: palooka at October 08, 2012 09:02 AM (R5B8I)
Posted by: Redd at October 08, 2012 09:02 AM (guxHP)
Talk about your eliminationist rhetoric...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 08, 2012 01:00 PM (wtvvX)
Maybe good morons should rig their yard signs with some electric fencing?
Posted by: Havedash at October 08, 2012 09:03 AM (F0WNa)
Posted by: little billy badass at October 08, 2012 12:59 PM (xXhWA)
Not sure why you think that. From Wiki:
In 2010, Jackson wrote in an article that she did not learn how to vote until the 2000 United States Presidential Election.[8] She maintains a personal website containing numerous postings highlighting her conservative political views. She criticized Democrats during the 2008 general election campaign, particularly presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama and Minnesota U.S. senatorial candidate (and fellow SNL alumnus) Al Franken. In October 2008, she appeared with other celebrities in a National Republican Senatorial Committee advertisement poking fun at Franken, then followed up with an interview on The O'Reilly Factor, where she called Obama a "communist."[9] She has repeated the communism claim on multiple occasions.[10][11]
When Obama won the election, she wrote on her blog: "Voters in our last election did not base their decision on facts or knowledge, but on hype, emotion, peer pressure, and racial fervor. It didn't help that the liberally biased media blocked Americans' access to the truth"[12] and she said Fox News is "the only one we should watch."[12]
In 2011, Jackson wrote that she thought she was being spied on because of her conservative views.[13]
In 2011, Jackson criticized the TV show Glee for showing a kiss between two male actors, calling it "sickening", and cited the Bible as one of her reasons for making such a statement. When accused of being homophobic, Jackson countered that that was merely a "cute liberal buzzword", and suggested that Glee should be replaced with a show promoting celibacy instead.[14]
In 2011, Victoria Jackson joined the staff of Patriot Update as a writer and video blogger. Victoria's video on Occupy Wall Street[15] gained national attention when she returned to her former home during her Saturday Night Live years, to interview 'Occupiers' in Zuccotti Park. Soon after, Patriot Update launched a brand new show called Politichicks, featuring Jackson, Ann-Marie Murrrell, Jannique Stewart, and Jennie Jones. The show aims to be a conservative alternative to The View. She now hosts her own web show called The Victoria Jackson Show.
In 2012, Victoria Jackson, through White Hall Press, published her autobiography, "Is My Bow Too Big? How I went from Saturday Night Live to the Tea Party."
Posted by: Tami at October 08, 2012 09:03 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: The Ghost of Flannery O'Connor at October 08, 2012 09:03 AM (WE5bx)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 08, 2012 09:03 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: palooka at October 08, 2012 09:03 AM (R5B8I)
Posted by: palooka at October 08, 2012 09:04 AM (R5B8I)
swoon!
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 08, 2012 12:53 PM (DGIjM)
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In other words, he won't be financially supporting any country involved in jihad or sharia.
Posted by: Soona at October 08, 2012 09:04 AM (h4T0N)
Obama's fatigue is that for the past 6-8 years he has had to hide who he truly is. It comes out at times with certain statements. But it must be really tough to live that way for so long. Having to hold back your true beliefs for the sake of electability, when you know you are "smarter" than everyone else. He is Col. Jessup ready to explode. He wants to say it, he needs to say.
Posted by: SH at October 08, 2012 09:05 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 08, 2012 09:05 AM (Dnbau)
I'd be fitting my Romney/Ryan yard sign with a grid of ultra-fine wire, and hook it up to a neon sign transformer or a Model T coil.
Get one of those "trail cameras" they sell at Cabelas' and video the whole show. YouTube gold, I tell ya.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2012 09:05 AM (pFqpP)
Posted by: little billy badass at October 08, 2012 09:05 AM (xXhWA)
Megyn Kelly just brought up...how the Dems and Barky reacted when Joe Wilson said..."You Lie!"
And she is contrasting it with how they are now calling Romney a liar.
Heh. Good girl.
Posted by: wheatie at October 08, 2012 09:05 AM (l5RhJ)
Reading his comments, it doesn't look like Romney is calling for "intervention." It looks like he's calling for arming the rebels (which is slightly different).
And, as he points out, a loss for Assad is a loss for Iran, and a loss for Iran is a good thing.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 09:06 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 08, 2012 09:06 AM (136wp)
Mitt should review all the bullshit obama spat out in 2008 at his for. pol. debate with McCain.
Posted by: jb at October 08, 2012 09:06 AM (qX+yb)
Posted by: palooka at October 08, 2012 09:06 AM (R5B8I)
Did you take notes comrade?
That's how its done bitch. Learn from the Master!
Good luck in November.
I am sending you one million last minute votes in a box.
Don't open them until after the polls close.
Peace out mang
Senior Hugo I COUNTED AND I WON Chavez
Posted by: Hugo Chavez El ReElected Presidente and all around nice guy who will kill you if you dont vote for h at October 08, 2012 09:07 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: © Sponge at October 08, 2012 09:07 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 08, 2012 09:07 AM (c4HHG)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 08, 2012 09:07 AM (ZPrif)
On Megyn's show now: Megyn making my case that a politician with honor and character is a concept that dems and lefties are incapible of even entertaining the possibility that such a creature exists. If Romney / Ryan would start hammering this subject: Honor, Character, Truth, and linking it to Romney's past, they'd be sunk.
Their entire doctrine would implode. That's my opinion. They can't comprehend it. And worse - they don't believe that the American people can comprehend it. They are as much as saying that American people are all stupid and we will leverage that to our favor.
Posted by: HtP at October 08, 2012 09:08 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: SH at October 08, 2012 09:08 AM (gmeXX)
OMG! That's an awful lot of chocolate love!
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 09:09 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: palooka at October 08, 2012 09:09 AM (R5B8I)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 08, 2012 09:09 AM (PH+2B)
Posted by: Redd at October 08, 2012 09:09 AM (guxHP)
Meh. Proxy wars were part of the strategy against the USSR. It makes at least as much sense now against Iran.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 09:09 AM (5DR1j)
And I will make it clear to the recipients of our aid that, in return for our material support, they must meet the responsibilities of every decent modern government—to respect the rights of all of their citizens, including women and minorities… to ensure space for civil society, a free media, political parties, and an independent judiciary… and to abide by their international commitments to protect our diplomats and our property." swoon!
I guess this leaves the US out of providing any internal aid to ourselves then. To bad that we can't meet these standards ourselves.
Posted by: Havedash at October 08, 2012 09:10 AM (F0WNa)
Last week, Mitt Romney used the word “apartment.” That font of racial understanding, Chris Matthews (who has no black friends, neighbors or employees), revealed on MSNBC that the word “apartment” is racist.
So please add that to your New Racist Dictionary, along with others common to native English speakers, such as “law and order,” “welfare,” “Chicago,” “kitchen cabinet,” “golfing” and “the.” (“The” became racist when Donald Trump said he had a “great relationship with the blacks.”)
Posted by: Obama's retirement planner at October 08, 2012 09:10 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 08, 2012 09:10 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Sir Mix-A-Lot at October 08, 2012 09:10 AM (136wp)
Megyn Kelly just brought up...how the Dems and Barky reacted when Joe Wilson said..."You Lie!"
And she is contrasting it with how they are now calling Romney a liar.
Heh. Good girl.
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She should have pointed out that his EO granting amnesty proves he was in fact lying.
Posted by: Up with people! A man. at October 08, 2012 09:10 AM (kzFo5)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 08, 2012 09:10 AM (Dnbau)
"The rebels are making progress without us."
Not much progress unless you count spectacular suicide bombings which make people either dead, maimed, afraid, or angry.
They haven't been doing it "without us" for quite a while. Hillary link in my sig is just what is admitted in public. We know Obama has supported the Saudi and other Sunnis effort to fight in Syria.
'Best' part: Turkey has been attacked by Syria. We're in on the same side as al Qaeda per NATO treaty if Turkey needs help.
I agree, the Sunni side is awful. But Iran is _literally_ on the other side, having inserted Basij militia and Pasdaran commandos and trainers.
Posted by: Beagle at October 08, 2012 09:11 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 08, 2012 09:11 AM (c4HHG)
Content and fur will fly around 3:30 EDT.
Posted by: fluffy at October 08, 2012 09:13 AM (z9HTb)
"'These are solar panels we are now seeing reports that said they worked as long as you didnÂ’t put them in the sun,' said Rep. Cory Gardner, R-Colo."
*facepalm*
At least the Trabant could actually be driven, for all the piece of shit it was. This company can't even make a solar panel, but they just robbed us for $68 million.
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 09:13 AM (GQ8sn)
318 RE: the cars being keyed thing - I will admit to having a nearly uncontrollable urge to rearend cars with the COEXIST stickers so I comprehend the inclination to do so. The fact that you don't actually do it is the thing.
I will admit that I don't have a bumper sticker or yard sign because I don't have a yard to put the sign and because part of my job duties including ferrying around the boss and clients in my car. I think it is only polite not to try to offend our clients. Before anyone suggests getting one I can take off when I come to work, yeah, that would end in Epic Fail on my part.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 08, 2012 01:10 PM (VtjlW)
Had my car keyed last year because of an anti-Obama bumper sticker. Jackass keyed all the way down the drivers side, across the back and all the way up the passenger side. $2,000 worth of damage.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 08, 2012 09:14 AM (da5Wo)
@318. For the most part, there is no real need for us average person to show the world which candidate we will support - though an argument can be made that some voters want to vote for the popular candidate and yard signs/bumper stickers are a reflection of that.
In any event, it goes to Hollywood too. While it is wonderful that Ms. Dash wishes to support Romney, I (and most of the world) have no clue as to who she his (pun intended). Yet she thought it important to tell the world that she is supporting Romney.
Posted by: SH at October 08, 2012 09:14 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 08, 2012 09:14 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 08, 2012 09:15 AM (PH+2B)
Did you return the favour and key an obama car?
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 09:15 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Scandal Monger at October 08, 2012 09:16 AM (1Y+hH)
It's the new "Toure method" of determining racism.
Almost all "urban housing" (that is: housing paid for by you, the generous taxpayer) are apartments.
"urban housing" is largely used by minorities.
Therefor "apartment" is racist.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 09:17 AM (5DR1j)
They're just adding random words to the list as far as I can tell. Next thing you know, the word "unemployment" will be declared racist.
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 09:17 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 01:15 PM (GQ8sn)
Nope. I'm a productive member of society, not some two bit wanna be thug like whoever did it. I did however, stand in the parking lot shouting things like "OH, someone's a biiiig man. Gonna key a car for a bumper sticker? Real nice. So who's the tough guy? Huh? Where you at tough guy?"
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 08, 2012 09:17 AM (da5Wo)
Related topic:
Fox is talking about the Obama camp tripling down on the idea that Romney is a "liar", and that's how he won the debate.
Besides being lame and cowardly, this might possibly backfire, turning into an "Obama ate dog" situation. Obama is the guy, after all, who took out that ad saying "You didn't build that" was "out of context." I don't think I've ever seen a sitting President lie so blatantly about someting that was so easy to fact-check, actually TAKING OUT AN AD - spending millions - to make sure you didn't miss his lying to your face!!
Plus, the Benghazi thing - where everybody ought to know by now that Obama was lying his ass off by now. Those are TWO high-profile, simple and obvious lies.
I have long thought that Obama could lose a LOT of support - even from "leaners" - if people started to talk about Obama as the big, fat liar that he is, ESPECIALLY those single women!
But it's problematic to accuse the "first black president" of being a liar. Unless of course he starts calling YOU a liar...
Posted by: Optimizer at October 08, 2012 09:17 AM (As94z)
Posted by: Sir Mix-A-Lot at October 08, 2012 01:10 PM (136wp)
Me too!!
Michelle got a fat ass, yo!!!!
Posted by: Snoop Diggity at October 08, 2012 09:18 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 08, 2012 01:10 PM (Dnbau)
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Agree. It's the only way one can defend an empty chair.
Posted by: Soona at October 08, 2012 09:19 AM (h4T0N)
Whoa, thats a big fat secret service agent behind Romney. Usually they are a lot more fit. Not that he couldn't kick my butt.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 08, 2012 12:00 PM (PHb2k)
This guy is probably carrying enough armor to stop a tank shell. And his last ditch job is to get between Romney and the threat. I hope he never has to do it. But there are a lot of crazy people out there.
Let's all hope the crazies stay home and hide under their tin foil hats.
Posted by: rd does not believe the MFM at October 08, 2012 09:20 AM (zLp5I)
Sorry, but that's dumb.
I'm a vengeful little bastard when it comes to certain things. I would have driven down to the nearest whole foods and found a Lexus or Infinity sporting an obama sticker and carved the everlovingshit out of it.
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 09:20 AM (GQ8sn)
Agree. It's the only way one can defend an empty chair.
I rather doubt that 67M people saw Mitt as a liar last Wednesday evening.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 08, 2012 09:21 AM (lOmbq)
Posted by: Havedash at October 08, 2012 09:21 AM (F0WNa)
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at October 08, 2012 09:22 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 08, 2012 09:22 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Optimizer at October 08, 2012 01:17 PM (As94z)
The argument of Romney being a liar is the ultimate desperation play. They are basically admitting that they have nothing left. Period. They have no argument to make that can't be refuted. They are losing and they have lost. I still say if Romney / Ryan can play the honor/integrity/character card they will bury Obama.
Posted by: HtP at October 08, 2012 09:22 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 08, 2012 09:23 AM (wtvvX)
1 x vid cam in friend's car
1 x beater you're going to repaint anyway
= YouTube gold
Prolly best done at place of work with security and a chance of catching a perp with deep pockets and something to lose if caught.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 08, 2012 09:24 AM (e7w2X)
Posted by: Jon at October 08, 2012 09:24 AM (fWAjv)
Notice how this kind of shit is always one-sided, always coming from one direction? It got this way because the other side always turned their cheek and let it slide. You have these fuckwits believing there's nothing wrong with trashing someone's car because there's no consequences. There should be.
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 09:24 AM (GQ8sn)
1 x vid cam in friend's car
1 x beater you're going to repaint anyway
= YouTube gold
Prolly best done at place of work with security and a chance of catching a perp with deep pockets and something to lose if caught.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 08, 2012 01:24 PM (e7w2X)
Now that's an awesome idea.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 08, 2012 09:25 AM (da5Wo)
I'm not sure how you get worse than Iran. Seriously.
And, viewed in a vacuum, you're right. If he keeps to the rest of the policy, too, though, it's a different story.
"Okay, you've overthrown Assad. Now if you want our money and support, you have to behave yourselves. Oh, and there are two carrier strike groups in the Persian Gulf, just in case you were wondering."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 09:25 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: Soona at October 08, 2012 09:25 AM (h4T0N)
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 01:24 PM (GQ8sn)
I completely agree. There should be. If I had caught the asshole I woulda kicked his ass. If I knew for a fact who he was, I'd prob go fuck up his shit. But trashing some random person's stuff doesn't do anything other than make me as stupid and as childish as the original asshole.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 08, 2012 09:26 AM (da5Wo)
"305 Do you think Obama knows he's FAIL? Do you think he's just biding his time now or does he honestly believe that he's winning the public opinion and will muck his way through another 4 years?"
As a narcissist, he knows, "deep down", that he is not as good as he tells himself he is. Their reaction to being in a bind like this is generally to brazenly try to cheat. He is probably also pretty angry with the country, for not giving him the adulation that he feels he is due.
Posted by: Optimizer at October 08, 2012 09:26 AM (As94z)
Mitt's Body Man @dgjackson
Kids from local elementary school are outside waving as our motorcade drives by.
Update: Gov just had motorcade turn around to go to the school to see the kids. Pictures coming shortly.
pic: http://tinyurl.com/9sumso8
Posted by: Tami at October 08, 2012 09:27 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 08, 2012 12:00 PM (PHb2k)
This guy is probably carrying enough armor to stop a tank shell. And his lastditchjob is to get between Romney and the threat. I hope he never has to do it. But there are a lot of crazy people out there.
Let's all hope the crazies stay home and hide under their tin foil hats.
Posted by: rd does not believe the MFM at October 08, 2012 01:20 PM (zLp5I)
I saw that agent with Romney the other day. He's a pretty big boy. He was shorter than expected too. Not quite what I expected in a SS agent. The others all fit the mold though. You gotta know that this dude brings something special to the table. It just wasn't apparent what that was other than pure mass.
Posted by: Havedash at October 08, 2012 09:27 AM (F0WNa)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 08, 2012 09:28 AM (XvHmy)
He's built like a hockey goalie, wide enough to block any "shots".
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 09:29 AM (GQ8sn)
The bubbles were created when the chemical was swept over a waterfall, officials said.
A spokesman said: 'People are right to be cautious but it is harmless. It made very large bubbles when it went over a waterfall, but apart from one or two dead fish, it is harmless.'
... "non-toxic chemical deodorant" .... I'd hate to see the size of the arm-pit
Posted by: Obama's retirement planner at October 08, 2012 09:29 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Havedash at October 08, 2012 01:21 PM (F0WNa)
There was a 108 page report released that showed how easy it was for a majority of campaigns to accept foreign money.
It's at Breitbart.com.
Posted by: © Sponge at October 08, 2012 09:29 AM (UK9cE)
356 O/T: A guy from OK was caught in Miami with a dufflebag full of molotov cocktails. Said he was going to start fire-bombing churches. Looked like an OWS loser.
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I thought he was from Chicago, Soona.
And yeah...they caught him in a motel in Miami, OK.
Posted by: wheatie at October 08, 2012 09:29 AM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: Jon at October 08, 2012 01:24 PM (fWAjv)
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Nice satire.
Heh.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 08, 2012 09:29 AM (1Y+hH)
Prolly best done at place of work with security and a chance of catching a perp with deep pockets and something to lose if caught.
"Hello, is this 911? I just caught a guy keying my car. I got it on video..."
Or, maybe even better
"This is Eyeball News 6. Have a Romney/Ryan sticker on your car? Has it been vandalized? You won't want to miss what we discovered in local parking lots. Film at 11"
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 08, 2012 09:30 AM (lOmbq)
Posted by: Random at October 08, 2012 09:30 AM (u8eBQ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 09:30 AM (5DR1j)
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That's it! I'm changing my vote, and I urge every 'ron and 'ette to do the same. This ^^ is all the proof you need, my friends.
Man's Country Marxist / Choo Choo Biden '12 !!
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 08, 2012 09:30 AM (lTVJy)
Posted by: toby928© at October 08, 2012 09:31 AM (QupBk)
Kids coming up to Gov and asking "Are you really Mitt Romney?" The kids are so excited.
Posted by: Tami at October 08, 2012 09:32 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Hopeless at October 08, 2012 09:32 AM (VSfsH)
Posted by: MUMR, Resident Blog Dick at October 08, 2012 01:30 PM (vbh31)
Stay on topic!
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 08, 2012 09:33 AM (da5Wo)
The scandal wasn't much of a scandal - if that is all it is. But it is just one more thing to add to the puzzle.
Posted by: SH at October 08, 2012 09:33 AM (gmeXX)
Maybe he's saving that in his arsenal for the FP debate for max effect. Barky will probably dissolve into the floor in a red cloud of smoke like the Wicked Witch of the South.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 08, 2012 09:33 AM (lTVJy)
Posted by: Dish of Red at October 08, 2012 09:33 AM (Dmq63)
Posted by: Mirror Image Romney at October 08, 2012 09:34 AM (1Y+hH)
Heh....I like that.
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 09:34 AM (GQ8sn)
"Not destroying some random person's property"
Well, if we are talking about random's property, that could be a different story.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 08, 2012 09:35 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Jared Loughner at October 08, 2012 09:35 AM (e8kgV)
And yeah...they caught him in a motel in Miami, OK.
Posted by: wheatie at October 08, 2012 01:29 PM (l5RhJ)
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I just now read that. I stand corrected. He still looks like an OWS loser, though.
Posted by: Soona at October 08, 2012 09:36 AM (h4T0N)
O/T: A guy from OK was caught in Miami with a dufflebag full of molotov cocktails. Said he was going to start fire-bombing churches. Looked like an OWS loser.
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I hope this doesn't cut into Raykon's posting time.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 08, 2012 09:37 AM (1Y+hH)
Its the same old 2008 foreign campaign funds scandal being done again this year. With Holder at DOJ it goes nowhere.
The best that could be hoped for are prosecutions after Romney wins, but the Obama crew will be packing all their most incriminating records into thermite lined concrete caskets by then.
The White-house and State dept burn rooms are probably working overtime right now "cleaning up"
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 08, 2012 09:37 AM (NO6cW)
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at October 08, 2012 09:38 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 01:35 PM (GQ8sn)
I'm pretty sure the AoS handbook/style guide insists that pictures must accompany statements like that.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 08, 2012 09:40 AM (da5Wo)
The Philippine government and Muslim rebels agreed on a deal to end a 40-year conflict that has killed more than 120,000 people, President Benigno Aquino said on Sunday, paving the way for a political and economic revival of the country's troubled south....
The MILF and the government still need to thrash out details of their broad agreement in the months ahead as a 15-member commission drafts a law by 2015 to send to Congress.
The two sides agreed only that there would be "just and equitable" sharing of resources, which are believed to include large reserves of natural gas. Determining how much power the area will have over law, such as its scope to administer sharia justice, is another remaining challenge for negotiators.
PS -- Never do a Google image search for MILF vs. MILF with the office door open!
Posted by: Harry Truman at October 08, 2012 09:40 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Meremortal at October 08, 2012 09:41 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 08, 2012 09:41 AM (tf9Ne)
There has been so much talk in the media of Obama doing well in the town hall forum that expectations are right back on the ceiling for him. I know the operatives are busy getting pony tail guy a new list of questions, but I feel really confident that Mitt will handle them just as well as he did last week.
Posted by: Tocquevillian at October 08, 2012 09:41 AM (iuY0Y)
Posted by: MUMR, Resident Blog Dick at October 08, 2012 01:35 PM (vbh31)
Stop blaspheming!
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 08, 2012 09:41 AM (da5Wo)
With the added part (at least, it was news to me) that they're not even checking CVV numbers on credit cards. Which means they're not even validating that it's you using your credit card.
And I don't expect it goes anywhere legally, but the public needs to be made aware. I don't think there's any judicial recourse (not realistically, whatever the law says), but it could cause a public outrage that Obama is Enabling/Encouraging credit card fraud or even Identity theft.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 09:41 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 08, 2012 09:41 AM (c4HHG)
I was disappointed with Romney's speech. He didn't nail Obama for the Benghazi coverup.
Posted by: Random at October 08, 2012 01:30 PM (u8eBQ)
The speech is meant to be a stand alone statement of principles. Talking about the stupid and transparent lies would detract from the speech. The MFM would make the story about Romney lies and more Romney gaffes.
Tomorrow is the day to talk about the lies. And we have to all talk about Obama's lies. Not Just Romney. Everyone, Romney and Ryan, all their surrogates, and all of us. Hammer him and his administration every day, solid, every time, until even the MFM agrees his is a lying sack of shit.
Posted by: rd does not believe the MFM at October 08, 2012 09:42 AM (zLp5I)
Can you say that with children in the room ?
Posted by: Hugh H at October 08, 2012 09:42 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Socratease at October 08, 2012 09:42 AM (iVBDH)
If I wasn't at work...
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 09:42 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 08, 2012 09:43 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Hopeless at October 08, 2012 09:43 AM (7nwJ6)
Well, I'm good with that, too. But I'll take "we think they're more on our side than Iran's" in a pinch.
Thing is: we're pretty sure that Iran has actually deployed (clandestine-ish) forces to assist Assad- which makes your scenario less likely.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 09:44 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 01:42 PM (GQ8sn)
Stacey Dash. NSFW
http://tinyurl.com/8u5knwv
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 08, 2012 09:46 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: misc at October 08, 2012 09:46 AM (LpQbZ)
The MILF and the government still need to thrash out details of their broad agreement in the months ahead as a 15-member commission drafts a law by 2015 to send to Congress.
The two sides agreed only that there would be "just and equitable" sharing of resources, which are believed to include large reserves of natural gas. Determining how much power the area will have over law, such as its scope to administer sharia justice, is another remaining challenge for negotiators.
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The Philippine government folded. They'll regret it in the long run. All these muzzie fascists will do is spread their misery to another island until the whole nation is consumed. Too bad. Their women are fucking hawt.
Posted by: Soona at October 08, 2012 09:46 AM (h4T0N)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 08, 2012 09:48 AM (136wp)
Any basket case country that wants aid can pick a five mile by five mile piece of random coastline. And (1) sell it outright, -and- (2) cede all rights to it to the US. It's our "Embassy".
Anyone that walks up to the border, is disarmed, and searched by the guards, is welcome to enter the fringe area and get a daily ration, visit the medical clinic, or visit the American school for the day and try to find a job.
Getting past the fringe to the interior requires passing the naturalization test, fingerprinting, DNA, RFID tagging, and an oath in native language & English to avoid theft, rape, cheating, and murder. (Keep it simple and to the point.)
Jobs include: Digging a port. Flattening an airport. Making a concrete plant. Making a desalination plant. Building a skyscraper in the center.
Think Hong Kong.
Posted by: Al at October 08, 2012 09:48 AM (MzQOZ)
Posted by: Redd at October 08, 2012 09:48 AM (guxHP)
Posted by: Invictus at October 08, 2012 09:48 AM (OQpzc)
"Stacey Dash. NSFW"
Depends on your job really. If you work at Playboy, no prob. She could take an eye out with those things.
Posted by: Beagle at October 08, 2012 09:49 AM (sOtz/)
You know who does things like this? Winners.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 08, 2012 09:50 AM (qigku)
You know who does things like this? Winners.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 08, 2012 01:50 PM (qigku)
And unlike Obama he didn't do it for the photo op...
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 08, 2012 09:52 AM (9+ccr)
@414
"Lioness adopts baby impala after killing mother."
Seen this before. Lionesses do this over and over. It ends, "until the other lions show up..."
Posted by: Beagle at October 08, 2012 09:54 AM (sOtz/)
Let's be real here. He did it for the photo op, too. Don't think that didn't cross his mind.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 09:54 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 08, 2012 01:50 PM (NO6cW)
.......................Lion sandwich.
Posted by: Invictus at October 08, 2012 09:54 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 08, 2012 09:54 AM (136wp)
But he had the confidence and presence of mind to take advantage of the situation. He wasn't rushing off to meet with a bunch of Hollywood cry babies who have their panties in a wad.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 08, 2012 09:56 AM (qigku)
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 08, 2012 09:58 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at October 08, 2012 09:59 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 08, 2012 10:00 AM (NO6cW)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 08, 2012 10:00 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 08, 2012 01:46 PM (da5Wo)
Wowza!!! Great work! Good thing my workplace is a little lenient about its blocking software.
Posted by: NC Ref at October 08, 2012 10:00 AM (zZ1FA)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 08, 2012 10:00 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: JEM at October 08, 2012 10:01 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 08, 2012 10:03 AM (qigku)
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at October 08, 2012 01:59 PM (GBXon) "
I doubt it. I suspect they will not want to tarnish the public perception of their father (among liberals anyway), since they stand to be major beneficiaries of it.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 08, 2012 10:05 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: Sasha at October 08, 2012 10:06 AM (YmPwQ)
Ronco Pocket Teleprompter™
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 08, 2012 10:10 AM (NO6cW)
Minor quibble. Whatever one thinks of his fiscal and rule-of-law (amnesty) performances, Bush's foreign policy (words and actions) deserve to be at least co-featured "reference points" for a serious discussion. As in "Bush-esque" as much as "Reaganesque".
Different times, different challenges, etc., apples and oranges in some ways.
But in language (Sept. 20 2001 speech to joint session, West Point speech) and action (A-stan, Iraq, GWOT, preservation of Geneva framework AGAINST inexcusable resistance from ICRC and others, etc.), Bush was very much a good standard. (there were even very quiet successes as in Colombia, and the diplomatic/strategic coup of the missile defense deals with Poland/Czech Rep., and appropriately low-profile successes in military and intel integration with former Soviet Bloc countries and others)
Yes, yes, yes - the submission to China over the P-3 incident (Powell), the still-unsolved collapse/reversal of the fantastically successful North Korean isolation policy in the second term, the loss of will in Iraq (against Syria and Iran) and the inexcusable dithering there prior to the instant and easy and successful application of common sense (the "surge").
But in rhetoric and resolution along with action and success - on the KEY issues of the day, with differences in times taken into account - Bush was every bit the successful leader Reagan was on national security.
Posted by: non-purist at October 08, 2012 10:14 AM (UViC2)
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 08, 2012 10:31 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: Major Wood at October 08, 2012 10:52 AM (y9fNc)
Posted by: Jordan at October 08, 2012 11:06 AM (RSG1I)
Posted by: Jordan at October 08, 2012 11:11 AM (RSG1I)
Nonsense, Jordan. Document your idiotic comment - and please don't operate on a moronic Beltway/NYT/NPR level. What wounds? What's with this idiotic word "spinning"? No revisionist history, lifetime direct experience during the terms of both presidents mentioned.
Warm up slow do you don't pull any long muscles. Name one "disaster" under Bush. Explain how it's a disaster, specifying the clear, concrete, plausible alternatives that would not have been "disastrous".
Posted by: non-purist at October 08, 2012 12:11 PM (UViC2)
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